Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Comments? - GingertailGinger]]tailScarletwind]]Medicine Cat of SolarClan 20:00, March 12, 2011 (UTC) Can you also give him amber eyes, like on his rogue image? 04:00, March 13, 2011 (UTC) Darkened the shading, attempted to blurr the shading adn highlights, and lightened the ear pink. Added collar, though it isn' t ver good :| - GingertailScarletwind]]Medicine Cat of SolarClan 15:45, March 13, 2011 (UTC) The collar looks a bit flat. Make the shading more noticeable there. :] 17:37, March 13, 2011 (UTC) Can you rename it Ice.loner.png? And there is some blurred lineart on the right-back leg, near the tail. 20:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC) In his Rogue charart he has a blue collar, not a red one, so you should probably change the color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 02:06, March 15, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded *sigh* not much better, but I added more highlights, blurred, changed collar color adn fixed the teeth, ext. - Gingertail Darkhallows...Mew? 21:41, March 15, 2011 (UTC) Dry making the ear a little more reddish-pinkish instead of pinkish Feathermoon 01:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Brighten the highlights. 01:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC) Fix the earpink. 98.22.152.78 23:39, March 19, 2011 (UTC) Since he's in bloodclan, i belive he needs dog teeth reinforced in his claws. Right? 00:10, March 20, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Good point, Feathermoon. And blur the shading a little more. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  17:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC) I checked his rouge version and he didn't have teeth on his claws, so wouldn't that look weird? anywho, Reuploaded, I brightened the highlights and blurred the shading. Should I make the shading darker? I think it should be darker, but i realized that after I reuploaded it :| - Gingertail--]]WildheartLiving with only my thoughts. 06:56, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Make the pupil angle upwards. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  20:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Make therpink look more real, it looks too....ah, dark and fake. Maplepool 22:32, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Are you still working on this? --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 00:16, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Yes, I am, parden my lack of reply. Reuploaded Now, I'm not sure what color to make the earpink, so which would look more normal? - Gingertail--]]WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 22:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC) The shading on the tail is too light, and the body shading is really dark. Lighten it a bit. 02:58, March 29, 2011 (UTC) I think the paws could use a little bit of shading. Other than that I think this is pretty good! I hope it gets accepted! :) Ivystripe 16:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Lighten the shading on the body a bit. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:35, April 4, 2011 (UTC) And blur it. 22:36, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Please work on this or it will be declined. Nightshine 00:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Please don't decline it! My PhotoPlus is all screwed up and I need to wait until my dad fixes it, I don't know when that will be. But I'll upload the new one as soon as it gets fixed. - GingertailMINTSTARR]] There is a traitor among us... 14:03, March 18, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded.  02:53, March 19, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading. Mistfire 1000 Edits!  17:27, March 20, 2011 (UTC) darken the ear-pink. Maybe make it a bit of a dark red/maroonish color? ScarletwindStep into theLight 19:19, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. 03:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Move the earpink up a little bit in the ear and maybe widen it a bit because it looks too thin, but don't make it too big. :3 20:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Nice job =D Make the ear pink a lighter color because it's too red. --Icy123 ♥ 23:59, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. I didn't lighten it, because I'm not too sure what people want me to do. Some say darken, others say lighten. :P 00:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC) Yeah, I know this has been said before, but the earpink really should be lighter. It needs to match the coat more. Don't lighten it a lot, but it shouldn't be so dark-purple. --WildheartLiving with only my thoughts. 06:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC) I agree with Wildheart on this. Also, can the shading be darkened? It looks like there's not a lot there. Skye Meow 22:09, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Looks good. Just darken and blur the shading, and lighten the ear pink a bit, like Wildheart said. 22:24, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. I blurred the shading a lot, so if it needs more, [which it probably does] can someone help me? 02:09, March 25, 2011 (UTC) I will. 02:15, March 25, 2011 (UTC) '''Reuploaded. '''I blurred the shading a lot, and I feel your pain, Rainlegs. It was really hard to do. It involved the smudge tool, and halfway through I realized I'd killed the ear pink so I had to erase it and redo it since I didn't wanna start all over with my blurring. The changes aren't showing up for me, though. Are they for any of you? 02:56, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Oh, they're showing up now. Does anyone else think the shading could be darkened a bit? I think I over-blurred. :/ 02:56, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Yay, someone finally understands my issues with this cat! XD I think it could be darkened a tad more. Do you want me to do it, or would you still want to do it, so you can blur it after it's added? 03:02, March 25, 2011 (UTC) It's your charart, so, it's your call. :3 03:09, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Mmmkay. I darkened it, can you blur it some more? 03:17, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Mmkay. 21:46, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Blur shading on the back. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  20:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Define the ear pink. 14:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Add some shading to the left (our left) ear and the neck. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 04:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Add some shading to the chin/neck area Nightshine 05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC) I blurred the shading. 21:06, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. I added the chin shading, but I think it needs to blurred more. :P 01:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Yeah blur that =) Put your blur tool on 100%, if it isn't already. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:35, March 29, 2011 (UTC) There is like a stripe on his neck, get rid of that. Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 13:40, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. @Maplepool- It's shading, not a stripe. Anyway, I blurred it to the max. Can someone help me? :P  14:04, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Darken and define the shading, I can't see it very well. Nightshine 17:59, April 2, 2011 (UTC) When you darken and define the shading, I'll blur it for you =) --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 03:27, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded.  14:06, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :The way you did the shading on his neck, it just really stands out. You say you blurred it, but I think it's just way too dark to go with the shading for him. That might be the problem with this image. Yes, it does look blurred but it also looks sharp against his fur color as well. I say make it lighter and try bringing some of that shading down onto his chest.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:29, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :Blur the shading. I could blur it for you on GIMP if you'd like. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  16:49, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :People, please listen! Read what Wildheart said right above my last upload. All I did was darken the shading. @Shimmerpool- the reason I didn't bring shading down onto his chest is because the light is coming from right in front of it, so there wouldn't be any shadow there, as stated above. 18:10, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :Do you need help blurring the shading again? I'll go do it right now if you want. ^_^ 22:43, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :Go ahead. :P 01:21, April 4, 2011 (UTC) :Blur the highlights. 22:38, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Sorry, Rainlegs! I'm working on it now, but I was cut off from computer priviledges for a couple days. I'll reupload it in a sec. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 22:57, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I blurred it for you =) --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 23:50, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Thanks Wildheart! :) 23:58, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Sharpen the eyes and add more color to them. I can't tell if they're mber or black Rainsong43 01:48, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Rainsong43 I took the color off of his regular warrior image, so they're fine. 01:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Pinestar (alt. L) - For Approval== He was described as tawny in Bluestar's Prophecy. Comments/criticsm? Mistfire 1000 Edits!  18:03, March 13, 2011 (UTC) Darken the ear-pink and darken the shading. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 18:30, March 13, 2011 (UTC) There's some blurred lineart on the tail, fix that please. :3 19:11, March 13, 2011 (UTC) Fix the earpink....it looks kinda weird. 11:07, March 14, 2011 (UTC) It should be a bit more orange-y. There's some blurred lineart on the front right leg also. 192.203.211.254 17:33, March 14, 2011 (UTC) Looks great! Make the earpink less purply and more red-pink. 22:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC) Also, do you have a ref for that? There's nothing on his page. 03:30, March 15, 2011 (UTC) I tried posting this thre times but my computer got screwed up -.- theres a tad of white on the tail you forgot to color in, and the highlights could be blurred a tad. - Gingertail--]]Moonleaf 02:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Yes it does have to, thats how the line art was designed. 03:41, March 16, 2011 (UTC) If you want to know what tawny should look like, look at my alternate for Tawnypelt on this page. I think there is some blurred lineart on the haunch. MINTSTARR There is a traitor among us... 14:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC) I think this color for tawny looks fine. 20:09, March 17, 2011 (UTC) Same here. On the tail, there's a white pixel in the lineart. Can you fill that in? Echostar229 01:27, March 18, 2011 (UTC) There's also blurred lineart on the tail. It may have some one of the forelegs but I'm not too positive on that. MINTSTARR There is a traitor among us... 14:07, March 18, 2011 (UTC) 'Reuploaded. ''Mistfire 1000 Edits!  17:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading, make this more gingery (it's too brown right now) and lighten the ear pink. Also make the ear pink fill the whole ear. --Nightshine 18:49, March 19, 2011 (UTC) Desaturate the earpink a little and blur the tail shading. 01:37, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. Mistfire 1000 Edits!  17:12, March 20, 2011 (UTC) The white pixel on the tail still isn't filled in, so fill that in please. Also, the earpink isn't filling the whole ear still and brighten the highlights more. 17:18, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Is it just me, or is there a tiny gray smudge between the tail and the foot? Also, blur the shading. 04:40, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Nightflower is right. It needs to be removed. Unless this has already been discussed, brighten the highlights. MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 20:47, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Maybe darken the ear pink a bit more, it's kinda hard to see. ScarletwindStep into theLight 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Yeah, make the earpink more visible, then blur it. 22:14, March 22, 2011 (UTC) There is blurred lineart on the right ear. 20:40, March 23, 2011 (UTC) Looks good! Define/darken the ear pink to make it more noticable and maybe blur a tad the highlight on the chest. 23:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Are you still working on this? --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:29, March 26, 2011 (UTC) If Mistfire has abandoned this, I'd be willing to take over. 17:03, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. Hey, I'm still working on it :P I'm only allowed to use the computer on weekends, so there will be 5-6 day gaps between each reupload. And Rainy promised on the IRC that she would blur the highlights for me. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  20:09, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Sorry. 20:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Make the earpink a paler reddish colour. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 00:19, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading Nightshine 05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Redden the ear pink, it looks too bright. 22:17, March 28, 2011 (UTC) This is up to you, but I think you should fill in a couple more pixels in the eye. It just looks like they are half-coloured in. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 02:41, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Please work on this or it will be declined. Nightshine 07:07, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading around the neck just a tad. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:32, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. Hmmm... I ran into an edit conflict when I uploaded, so it uploaded the image but didn't publish the Reupload notice. Wildheart: The white in the eyes is the shine. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  14:09, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading Nightshine 17:58, April 2, 2011 (UTC) I realized that, I just kind of thought it was too big... usually it's just one pixel. But whatever, it's your choice =P Fix the blurred lineart in the left ear. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 03:32, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :The ear pink still seemes unnatural to me. Maybe lighten it some. That pink just really doesn't go with the color in my opinion like it's too bright but too dark. Do you get what I'm trying to say?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:24, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. Not really, Shimmerpool... can you give me a sample color I can steal? Mistfire Spring rainfalls  16:46, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :<- This is a color that I'm thinking about. You can always mess around with it to getting it at a tone of your liking of course. Also after taking a closer look at the image I think the real thing that's bothering me is how the ear pink is taking over the entire ear. Possibly add in some of his fur color around the ear pink as ear fur. There's many examples of this, just look at some of the other leaders.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:27, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Leave the ear pink filling the whole ear. Thats how the blank was designed. Just change the colour. 02:20, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Just a side-note, it doesn't really have to fill in the whole ear. It's optional. 17:28, April 4, 2011 (UTC) ...but it's also how the blank was designed, so really, it shouldn't be optional XD --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 23:22, April 4, 2011 (UTC) I know it's hard to get the right earpink on tawny cats like this, but that looks a little, unnatural. MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 01:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Willowbreeze (K)- For Approval== Here she is..... Comments? Echostar229 03:37, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading and make the ear pink darker/more dull. 03:39, March 16, 2011 (UTC) I don't see any silver parts, maybe add some streaks or patches? ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 03:57, March 16, 2011 (UTC) scratch that. Darken the whole thing a tad. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 04:48, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. Echostar229 01:31, March 17, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading. MINTSTARR There is a traitor among us... 14:19, March 17, 2011 (UTC) Echostar, you can only have one image up for approval. As of now, you have two; Oakheart and Willowbreeze. I don't know what happens next, another user probably know though. MINTSTARR There is a traitor among us... 14:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC) Well she stopped working on it I think. Echostar, I suggest you put withdrawn by user on Oakheart's image, or we can see if it'll just be declined because the image may not be needed. Oh and brighten the highlights a tad on the image. :3 20:12, March 17, 2011 (UTC) I did put the words 'Withdrawn' on it, and the image has been removed from the page. I had stopped working on him about a week ago, in case no one noticed my lack of updating him, me starting a new image, and the big words in the title. Oh, and, reuploaded. Echostar229 01:25, March 18, 2011 (UTC) Well you never actually specified that you had withdrawn it. So please do so in the future. Add tail shading, add shading to the fore arms, add shading under the chin Nightshine 01:29, March 18, 2011 (UTC) Weird, 'cause it said 'Withdrawn' next to it on my computer before it was archived. The light's coming from the left [her right] so I don't think she would have chin shading. There's also shading on her arms and tail. Echostar229 01:38, March 18, 2011 (UTC) I was the one that put withdrawn there. There should be shading under the chin since all other kit chararts have that and it makes it look less flat. Darken the shading on the forearms/tail Nightshine 23:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC) Whatever. Reuploaded. Echostar229 00:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading. Darkhallows...Mew? 04:57, March 19, 2011 (UTC) Brighten the earpink. 01:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. I think the shading's gotten worse...... :S Echostar229 03:53, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading on the chest. Mistfire 1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Make the shading go all the way across under the chin/ the neck. 22:54, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading on the chest and tail. 22:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Go blur crazy!CardinalfireMy fluffy yellow cake! Thin out the shading on the top of the chest. It needs to round out more, to fit the shape of the chest. --WildheartLiving with only my thoughts. 07:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. Will anyone help me with blurring? Echostar229 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Darken her shading to make her look more like her other chararts up for approval because they are darker than this..Honeybreeze 18:32, March 25, 2011 (UTC) I'll help =) And the colouring is fine; you don't need to fix it. Enlarge the earpink a bit and then blur it --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:31, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading on the chest lots. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  20:22, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Darken/blur that little highlight on the tail tip or lighten if that was shading. 00:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I blurred it and reuploaded it for you, Echostar =) --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:45, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Add/lighten the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit. Nightshine 05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Make the ear pink more even, and center it. 00:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Darken tail shading. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  14:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Brighten or darken the earpink a tad. 17:02, April 3, 2011 (UTC) I take it you're not working on this anymore since you reserved another. Nightshine 00:37, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I haven't reserved another. My grandma just died, so i haven't been able to work on this. Sorry. I'll go reupload this. Echostar229 00:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Oh I'm sorry! I thought this was Wildheart's image so I put it as withdrawn. I'm really sorry for your loss. Nightshine 00:50, April 5, 2011 (UTC) So sorry! Can I take over? ❁ YatzSliversword Ah, spring...❁ 00:59, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I'm pretty sure Echostar is still working on this. Nightshine 01:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I'm still doing this. :S Echostar229 01:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. I think I wonked up the shading again... :S Echostar229 01:22, April 5, 2011 (UTC) blur the chest shading. 01:23, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Darken the ear pink a little bit. Nightshine 01:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Willowbreeze (A) ~ For Approval== I know that it doesn't really match Echostar's but I'm still playing around with different patterns, until I see Night Shine's. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 04:01, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Scratch that, I'm gonna redo it, I saw her description as "Silver and gray she-cat". ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 04:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Redone. Comments for improvement? ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 04:22, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading and make the ear pink less purple. 04:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Darken the whole thing, it's too light right now--Nightshine 04:30, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 04:47, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Darken shading on far forearm, add shading under chin and to space in front of forearm on chest. Add/darken the ear pink Nightshine 04:53, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 20:00, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading. 20:13, March 17, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 21:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC) Darken the ear pink a bit Nightshine 00:44, March 18, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 02:13, March 18, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading, it looks kind of flat--Nightshine 22:59, March 18, 2011 (UTC) Add highlights to the fronts of the legs Mistfire 1000 Edits!  21:15, March 19, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 21:49, March 19, 2011 (UTC) Looks good, the shading is just a bit lumpy/rough/uneven. Blur it all a bit. 01:34, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 02:07, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Lighten/blur neck shading Mistfire 1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 22:26, March 20, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shoulder shading. 22:51, March 20, 2011 (UTC) And the haunch shading. MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 20:45, March 21, 2011 (UTC) There is haunch shading... Anyway, blur the haunch highlight. :3 01:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 02:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Add/darken shading on the forearms, darken the chest shading, add a bit of shading under the chin Nightshine 22:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading, it looks a little lumpy, and add shading to the top of the head. 02:14, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. I think I just made it worse though... ScarletwindStep into theLight 18:51, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the shading, or darken the highlights. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  21:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 16:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Darken the highlights a bit and blur them. Looks good. =) --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 23:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the shading Nightshine 05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 01:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Blur and darken the shading a bit. 03:37, March 29, 2011 (UTC) There appear to be blurred pixels on the tail. MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 23:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 00:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading a very small amount and make the ear pink a bit bigger Nightshine 01:16, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 01:20, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Brighten the earpink and maybe make it a little more red. 01:22, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 01:26, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Comments before approval? Nightshine 07:06, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Lighten/blur the shading.Mistfire Spring rainfalls  14:30, April 2, 2011 (UTC) I think the shading looks fine. Repeating 24 hours. Nightshine 17:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC) I hate to be nitpicky... but could you darken the front ear? The way the shading is, I think it needs to be in shadow... then your charart will be perfect XD --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 03:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC) You mean, add shading inside the ear? Or darken the ear-pink? ScarletwindStep into theLight 04:39, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Shading inside the ear. The earpink is a perfect shade, but the rest of the ear is lighter than the shaded parts of the body. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 04:42, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 04:52, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Make the ear pink a little smaller. Nightshine 05:47, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 14:18, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Brighten the ear pink Nightshine 21:55, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 21:59, April 3, 2011 (UTC) The ear pink looks way too big, and you brightened it too much. The shading is a bit intense, and a wee bit blotchy, so blur it out and maybe even lighten it a teeny bit? 22:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. ScarletwindStep into theLight 22:56, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Comments before approval? Nightshine 01:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval== Okay, Tigerheart re-posted! Comments? --Moonleaf 17:36, March 21, 2011 (UTC) This looks better. I can't think of anything that would need touching up. I don't think it could use more blurring, either. Cloud'skye The Dark Forest Is Rising 17:42, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Define the stripes a bit. 18:34, March 21, 2011 (UTC) How?  21:18, March 21, 2011 (UTC) I think she means make them more noticeable.  21:38, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I tried.  21:54, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Sharpen the stripes and make the ear pink more noticeable. Nightshine 21:57, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Maybe make the stripes a bit more wavy to they match the pattern in his alt. apprentice charart. ScarletwindStep into theLight 22:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded''' Better? 00:39, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading a little and blur it. 01:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded Is it too dark? 17:04, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Just a tad. Can you lighten up his back just a little bit? Skye Meow 17:13, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Doesn't a torn ear mean that the tip is completely torn off, rather than having it nicked? Maybe change it to that. ScarletwindStep into theLight 20:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the earpink a bit. 22:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded Dang, forgot to sign 00:21, March 23, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading a bit more and maybe add some by the belly and up the back. ScarletwindStep into theLight 01:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 17:12, March 23, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shading between the stripes a tad. ScarletwindStep into theLight 17:42, March 23, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 19:52, March 23, 2011 (UTC) He only has a torn ear and here it's completely ripped off. Make it so that it's torn. Darken the stripes, add a few more tail stripes, darken shading and add neck and belly shading Nightshine 22:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded What a fail! o.o 23:51, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Blur the highlights, and they seem to be in one blob. The face, shoulder, haunch, tail and leg highlights should all be separate. 02:12, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 17:39, March 25, 2011 (UTC) make the shredded eat less rounded and make it more pointish. 18:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Reuploaded Now more failz 20:03, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Make his match like the one on his current warrior image, and then make where you re-draw the line for the ear a bit thicker. Maplepool 23:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC) No keep the stripes whre they are, dont make it match its warrior image. Maplepool its been decided that it should match the other alts. 23:55, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Make the ear a bit bigger; right now it looks like there is no ear at all =P --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:33, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded Tell me if the changes show. 15:01, March 26, 2011 (UTC) No, Iceheart, I was talking about his ear, I know the stripes stay the way the way are, im not a idiot -_- I was talking about make the ear look more like the on on his current warrior image and when (s)he redoes it, make it look more the rest of the lineart, a bit thicker. Maplepool 15:37, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I'm a girl, and there's no torn ear on his warrior charart :/ 19:58, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Lighten/blur shading. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  21:52, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 21:55, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Huh, I swear i was atorn ear on him once... but do as Mistfire said other that i see no other changes need to be made, as far as I can see. Maplepool 22:30, March 26, 2011 (UTC) The stripes are really big and thick and the highlights still appear to be one huge unseparated blob, and they need to be blurred a lot. 01:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I think the stripes look fine. 04:49, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the shading a tad and match the colours a bit better to the apprentice alt. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 04:52, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Oh, and sharpen the stripes a lot. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 04:58, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I used the sharpen tool. Now it's more failz. 19:36, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Instead of using the blur tool and setting it to "sharpen", use the smudge tool to smooth out the edges into points. Blur the shading a bit. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 23:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC) The shading is very uneven. Make the colours match the ones on his alternate apprentice image Nightshine 05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC) So I should re-do it? 19:53, March 28, 2011 (UTC) It's up to you. If you think you can fix all the commented areas without redoing the whole image, go right ahead ;) --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 00:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I redid it :D 17:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Sorry guys, the changes aren't showing :/  19:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Try uploading it until the new version shows up Nightshine 01:14, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Tried, but it doesn't work >:(  02:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC) I found this link that leads to the redone image, hope this works: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110330020521/warriors/images/archive/b/b9/20110330020532!Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png  02:31, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Much better =) Perhaps you can just delete the one up top and replace it with ^this one^ so it's easier for us. Blur the stripes a bit. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 02:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded It's working now, so it's okay. 17:12, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Brighten the tail highlight. 20:10, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 20:38, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Darken the ear pink and make it more triangular. Blur the stripes, darken the shading. I also don't see noticable shading on the stripes.Nightshine 07:06, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded It's hard to make the earpink triangular when the ear is torn off. 14:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Blur stripes. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  14:34, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 16:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Define the stripes on the head, blur the other stripes, add one or two more stripes to the tail. Make the ear pink more triangular. Nightshine 17:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 20:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Move the shoulder highlight more forward, towards the belly, so it matches where the other highlights' placement. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 03:44, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 14:20, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Looks great! Move the ear pink a bit higher. 21:50, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 22:31, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Awesome job! Maybe just darken the shading a tad. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:48, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded 23:03, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Great job! I don't think anything else needs improvement :D 23:07, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Where's your light source? --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 23:24, April 4, 2011 (UTC) I'm thinking the visible side, the side you're looking at. 00:29, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Sooooo... comments? 17:09, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Brackenfur (alt.A) ~ For Approval== Brackenfur was described as a brown tabby apprentice in Forest of Secrets. Comments? 21:52, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Blur the stripes. 21:53, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Darken the stripes, add more stripes to his face, forearms, and tail. Make the ear pink smaller and more reddish Nightshine 21:57, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Make the ear-pink more noticeable and darken the shading on the legs a tad. ScarletwindStep into theLight 22:09, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Center the ear pink. 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. 22:27, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Would Brackenfur get an alternate? I mean, Golden-brown and brown are quite similar. 22:41, March 21, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon I think so...because they're actually really different golden-brown is more golden, and brown is more...brown. Brackenfur is often called ginger, too, but thats too close, I guess.... 22:50, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Well Brackenfur is a ginger-golden tabby and this is just brown. So I think it's fine. Darken the tail stripes, make the stripes thinner and add more of them. Add stripes to his face. Lighten the ear pink Nightshine 23:07, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Okay. 23:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. 23:23, March 21, 2011 (UTC) Move the ear pink up a little and blur it. 01:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. 22:01, March 22, 2011 (UTC) Blur the highlights. MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 20:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Blur the stripes so they will blend in more with the pelt. 21:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC) But he was called a tabby, so shouldn't the stripes stand out, instead of blending in? 21:41, March 24, 2011 (UTC) She doesn't mean to make them really hard to see. . . just. . . blend in more. XD But I think the stripes are too big and thick. Maybe make them smaller and add a few more? Darken the shading, brighten the highlights. Move the shoulder highlight up so it isn't half on his arm/belly, and the face highlight should be in the middle around the cheeks/whiskers with shading on top of the head. Make the ear pink smaller and add stripes to the legs. 22:22, March 24, 2011 (UTC) RE-Uploaded. 23:23, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Add more stripes to the legs, and define them a bit --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:34, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Make the earpink bigger. 17:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Blur the stripes. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  21:53, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Smooth those two little stripes by the eye. 00:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Oh and lighten this a lot; this is a light brown tabby alternate, not just a brown tabby alternate. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 00:54, March 27, 2011 (UTC) I agree with Wildheart; it needs to be lightened a lot. The stripes are still really thick and there still aren't any on the legs. 01:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC) It looks like you added the stripes after you did the shading and highlights. Make sure the stripes have shading and highlights along with the rest of the pelt. Nightshine 05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC) '''RE-Uploaded. ''' 22:18, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the entire image a bunch more. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 22:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC) I think its light enough. :P Besides, as long as its not dark brown, its light enough, right?... 22:50, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. I lightened it XD  22:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC) I hate to be nitpicky... but lighten it a little bit more? kthxbye XD --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 00:07, March 29, 2011 (UTC) The stripes are bothering me. They look like huge triangles and they don't fit together, but then the leg ones are really small, and they don't cover the entire legs, they're only on one leg. Also, the two lines under his eye are huge. His back legs don't have stripes. 03:40, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Okay, then...I'll try, but I might need help... 21:55, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Comments? 22:18, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Blur the shoulder highlight. MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 23:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC) RE-Uploaded. Comments? 23:20, March 29, 2011 (UTC) The back leg still needs stripes. 00:00, March 30, 2011 (UTC) The back front leg? I added them, but they're not easy to see... 00:01, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. Comments? 00:04, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Add a stripe to the top of his head, add shading and highlights to the stripes. Could you make the stripes a little thinner so you can add more to the haunch? It would look more realistic that way. Lighten the ear pink a bit Nightshine 01:13, March 30, 2011 (UTC) I'm not sure if it's just me, but the stripes on the legs look blotchy. 02:29, March 30, 2011 (UTC) I blurred them... 20:28, March 30, 2011 (UTC) '''Re-Uploaded. ''' 20:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC) The front leg stripes seem a lot... bolder then the other stripes. Maybe blur them some more or lighten them? 01:21, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Can someone help me with that? My computer's Adobe Flash player isn't working today :( 21:52, March 31, 2011 (UTC) I'll help, Misty :D  17:27, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I tried.  17:46, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Thanks, Comments?  21:48, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. I don't think there's any more things that need to be fixed...comments?  21:59, April 1, 2011 (UTC) The stripes are too triangular. Make them flow more with the pelt and smudge them as well. Try looking at some other tabby stripes to get an idea of what could make them look more realistic. The highlights also look a little splotchy. Center the ear pink and lighten it. Nightshine 07:05, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Blur the stripes more on the shoulder and haunch. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  14:37, April 2, 2011 (UTC) The computer I'm using right now still isn't working...anyone want to help? XD still not logged in :P 75.6.251.235 23:12, April 2, 2011 (UTC) I can help again, if it's okay if I can re-do the stripes. 15:56, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Looks great to me! I can't tell if much more needs to be done. Ivystripe 18:35, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Reuploaded I re-did the stripes for you =) 21:42, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Sorry, I forgot to add stripes on the other front leg, so Reuploaded  21:44, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Sorry, Moonleaf, it looks great, but I hope you don't mind if I change it...  21:49, April 4, 2011 (UTC) I don't mind  22:23, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded.. Thanks, you've been a great help, but my computer is working again =)  22:25, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Center the earpink :) --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 23:25, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Alright.  23:29, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded! :D  23:29, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Define the stripes, make the ear pink more reddish and lighten it. Nightshine 00:36, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded!  00:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Define the earpink. MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 01:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded. 40th time! XD 01:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Barley (K) - for approval == Okay, as of Frosthearts comment on Violet, she said that even if its one sentence they get one. So I'm going to see if Barley's Kit version won't get Denciled this time. If it is, i got a back up plan im saving. This is the picture it was at when it was dencied. 14:52, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Darken the shading. 22:39, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded=.- Comments? :) 17:30, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Define the change between black and white areas; they look like they are bleeding into each other. Blur the earpink a bit and make it smaller --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:38, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Try to have an equal amout of black and white, and as Wildheart said, define them.  17:39, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  01:43, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Re-done- Okay i re-did this, I had no idea how to fix the spots without ruining it. :3  23:16, March 27, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon The black and white division needs to be defined a bit more. You can just use the smudge tool and then blur it lightly if you don't want to redo the whole image =P --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 23:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC) reuploaded- i worked hard on the shading and spots :3  23:39, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon The shading needs to be a little more defined, it's hard to tell where it's at Ivystripe 00:17, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Okay, i did my best but I cant darking the shading anymore. The black spots are getting too dark. Reuploaded. 01:36, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Lighten the black spot on his right (our right) its FAR to dark, its blending in with the lineart. Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 00:59, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded  13:30, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Darken the nose colour, darken the shading on the white areas, blur the black a little more. Nightshine 07:00, April 2, 2011 (UTC) :The black patches still look rather dark in my opinion, almost the color of the lineart but it may be my screen. Also the patches on his stomach seem like they are smudged in with the white in stead of blurred. Blur them more.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 14:12, April 2, 2011 (UTC) : :Reuploaded- okay i fixed the lineart and lightened the spots a tad, and darkend the nose. 18:49, April 2, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon :The black markings look crowded and awkward, I don't really know how to describe it. . . the ear pink is very blurry and kind of hard to see and dark, and you need to darken the shading. 00:13, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :Reuploaded- PLEASE can someone help me with the shading? i'm desprate! everytime i try it gets worse! All i need is shading help. And then im good. Please? anyone? Feather 02:02, April 3, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon I'd help.... but I'd probably make it worse, so I won't XD the white parts need to be completely white (shading excluded) and right now they have patches of gray on them. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 03:48, April 3, 2011 (UTC) But people keep saying to darken the shading on the white so I did, and ^^thats^^ what I end up with. Feather 17:28, April 3, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Well maybe you need a better light source. Where's your light coming from right now? --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 23:28, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Ummm the....left? Feather 22:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon ==Snake (K)~ for Approval== Yeah AT LAST A CHARART, eh Ive gotten better, but he can be better, and hes not taken I took him, I LOVE him why? I don't know^^, anyway, comments? Maplepool 22:17, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Add shading to the sides of his face, thin out the shading on his right (our right) side, make the highlight bigger and add a highlight to his face. Make the earpink bigger too. 22:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded- fixed shading added more highlights, slimed the shading on his right(our right) ear pink enlarged....hmm its not showing the changes dont comment till I say you can. Maplepool 02:43, March 25, 2011 (UTC) O you can comment now Maplepool 02:45, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Darken the chest highlight, it looks like he has a pale grey chest. 20:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Blur the highlight. 22:34, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded- fixed the chest, blured the highlightes, comments? Maplepool 23:05, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Make the earpink more triangular and blur it. Lighten the shading on the inside of the right (our right) leg --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:39, March 26, 2011 (UTC) There fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 01:48, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Make it fit into the ears themselves; right now it looks like it's falling out. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 02:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC) There Fixed, I think..... ANWAY, comments? Maplepool 15:32, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Fix the earpink and blur the shading. (Mintstarr)98.22.156.110 18:03, March 26, 2011 (UTC) AT LAST I fixed the earpink AT FREAKING LAST!!!! Maplepool 22:40, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Enlarge the earpink and blur the shading a lot --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Lighten shading. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  02:43, March 27, 2011 (UTC) There fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 20:02, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Blur the leg shading and enlarge the earpink some. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 04:30, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Add/darken shading under the chin Nightshine 05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC) There, fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 20:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading under the chin, make the ear pink more noticeable. Nightshine 01:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Question, what do you mean, make it more noticeable, like make it a darker color? Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 02:50, March 30, 2011 (UTC) I belive she meant to ublurr the front right leg highlights\shading, Blrr the top part of tail shading. And I belive theres a peice of lighter lineart near the foor kinda, and the areas circled in red need to be blurred: se the burn tool. 13:30, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Not everyone uses the burn tool for shading. But yeah, she means, make the shading darker/more noticable. 22:24, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Hey guys, Since T.A.K.S is coming up, I won't be on untill wendsay, so...I can't upload till then, then AFTER, seciece taks, I have to go to a wedding for my aunt, so untill in like May, COMMENT AS FERICE AS YOU CAN DON'T HOLD THE COMMENTS BACK!!! YOU WILL COMMENT WITH FERICE-NESS (thats a word right?) anyway imma upload then COMMENT Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 21:04, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Ok comments? Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 21:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Center the ear-pink. And since there are a few spots to blurr, im going to give you a picture indication where. Green: Blurred lineart. Red: highlights\shading needs to be blurred. :  23:20, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Ok tried to fix it and reploadde Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 01:42, April 2, 2011 (UTC) I think you forgot to fix the pink ear :3  02:01, April 2, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon No I fixed it, It just looks more ... >.< Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 14:53, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading, make the ear pink bigger and more centered. --Nightshine 17:56, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Yeah, the ear pink is WAY too high up on his ears, and blur the belly shading and the shading on his. . . the place around his legs, but not on his legs. xD 22:38, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Fixed and reuploaded,comments? Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 21:45, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Rosepetal (A) - Withdrawn== Toadstep seems to be getting one, so Rosepetal shoud as well. Not so proud of the stripes on this one. Cronstructaments? 02:16, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Moved to the correct section. Make the earpink stand out some more. 02:18, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Take the eye colour off her warrior charart, fix the blurred lineart on its head, and make the stripes like the ones on her warrior charart. They just look like random swirls right now. 02:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Ah, shouldn't this be declined too? Toadstep's was decbe sides, they were never seen as apperentices, so unless frostheart, or Nightshine say it can stay I think it might be declined. Maplepool 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Well, Frostheart wants them to have images. I think it has a chance. 22:08, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Maplepool, don't just go saying random things before you know the whole story. There are reasons it stayed up. :P 23:19, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded  02:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Add some more stripes on the back so it matches the warrior pixel's stripes. Lighten the tail highlight. This looks good =) --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 02:18, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded  17:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC) The stripe style just looks way different from her warrior charart. Examine it for a little while to see what they look like, and copy off of it. Also, define the ear pink. 17:42, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I tried my best to copy the stripes.  19:25, March 26, 2011 (UTC) There is one part right before her tail tip which is lightet then the rest of her tail, darken that, other than that very nice Maplepool 22:43, March 26, 2011 (UTC) The stripes are too dark, and still kind of big, and while they look more like her warrior charart's, they're not quite there. And what's cronstructaments mean? xD  01:10, March 27, 2011 (UTC) See if you can edit the colors to match the shade of her warrior charart's. -- 01:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Brighten/darken the earpink and maybe try blurring the stripes. 16:28, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Can someone just redline where the stripes would be? That would help a lot DX 20:01, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Blur the stripes. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  21:21, March 27, 2011 (UTC) I would suggest outlining the stripes in the 'smudge' tool, that would blur them a little. 21:33, March 27, 2011 (UTC) You said you wanted a redline for the stripes? Here it is XD You had the right idea, but a couple of them were off. Basically, all you have to follow is where the stripes meet the lineart, but you can take artistic license with the rest, as we haven't seen the right side of her body yet. So go crazy =) --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 04:44, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded Thanks for the redline, Wildheart. I owe you one xD 21:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the stripes' color.  22:20, March 28, 2011 (UTC) No problem =) Maybe add some stripes to the front leg and the front of the haunch. I didn't add any to the redline because I didn't want to influence where you put them =P --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 22:51, March 28, 2011 (UTC) On the back leg, there is an area that isn't blurred. It's the tip of the bottom stripe. Ivystripe 00:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Reuploaded  21:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC) You could another stripe to the front of the haunch... 21:13, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Make all of the stripes consistent with eachother. The one on the front of the haunch is what all of them should look like (color wise) in my opinion. 22:10, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded Better? 21:05, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Darken the stripes and define them =) --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 00:01, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Define the earpink, it seems to almost blend in with the pelt color. MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 17:34, April 2, 2011 (UTC) I think I'm going to withdraw this; anyone who wants can take over. 16:39, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :I'll be happy to take this over for you for you Lone Wolf. Okay everyone I made the few edits that were last said, but I'm not done blurring as I have to go for tonight. Comments for now?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:04, April 4, 2011 (UTC) :There are some places that are the base color, not the stripe color, and should touch the lineart, unless that's what you were going for and they are the sides of a stripe? Ivystripe 18:33, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Sharpen the stripes =) --WildheartBack from  Maui;  tanless 01:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Hazeltail (Alt. A) - For Approval== I really liked this one; 1st charart for PCA! Moved this to the correct section. It doesn't quite look like you used the full size image as there are white pixels surrounding it. Fix that please. Otherwise, it's pretty good. 18:19, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Save the image as a png, not a jpg. 19:02, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Okay, got it. Holly♥ Medicine Cat  22:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Make the backround transparent, and get rid of all the random little pixels on the image.  22:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC) I did make the backround transparent. Holly♥ Medicine Cat  19:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Redo it, but don't save it as a .jpg image save it as a .png and her tail-tip is too bright, it looks white, and blur ther earpink, and make it smaller, and make the background transparent. Maplepool 22:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC) REUPLOADED - Holly♥ Medicine Cat 20:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Smooth out the highlights, as they look quite blotchy. Darken the ear pink and rename this Hazeltail.apprentice.alt.png. 19:31, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Very stunning^^, and tis is yourfirst charart for PCA? darken her tail tip and her muzzle, blur the earpink a bit more add shading to her ear that is farthest from us. Very nice, its better then mine, im jealous.... :/ Maplepool 20:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Fill in the pixels on the stomach, and make the ear pink smaller. And was she described as mottled, or just gray? because this looks mottled. 20:50, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Blur the highlights and shading, not smudge them. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  21:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Erase the bits of gray outside of the lineart. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 00:03, March 28, 2011 (UTC) REUPLOADED - Holly♥ Medicine Cat 01:48, March 30, 2011 (UTC) There is a white area on the belly that should be filled in, darken the shading, make the ear pink more noticeable. Rename this Hazeltail.apprentice.alt.png. Nightshine 01:57, March 30, 2011 (UTC) REUPLOADED - Holly♥ Medicine Cat 02:04, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Darken this a lot. 04:44, April 1, 2011 (UTC) And then make the hilights more noticable. 22:36, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Is it just me, or is the lineart on the back of the haunch a lot thicker than the rest of the body? --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 03:50, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading on the chest, haunch, and face.ScarletwindStep into theLight 04:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC) REUPLOADED - Holly♥ Medicine Cat 18:11, April 3, 2011 (UTC) ...Does the shading look a bit stiff, or blothy? It doesn't look blotchy. But it needs a face highlight, and add shading to the muzzle. Darken the whole thing, it looks pale gray, and darken the shading a lot. The ear pink is a bit hard to see and the tail shading looks like a gradient. 22:36, April 3, 2011 (UTC) ==Silverstream (Alt. W) - For Approval== She was described as a black-and-silver cat in Forest of Secrets on page 15. Comments? 23:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Blur the black on the tail, make the ear-pink a tad smaller and brighten it, darken the shading on the white parts, and brighten the highlights. ScarletwindStep into theLight 23:07, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. 00:00, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Make the white areas silver. Smudge the black transition. Add eye colour, blur the ear pink and blur the shading Nightshine 00:03, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. 00:32, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Ooh! I like the markings! The silver still looks white, so darken it a lot, and darken the shading as well. Move the ear pink up a bit. 00:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Blur the earpink and the shading. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Thicken the black near the shoulder area. 01:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Rename this Silverstream.warrior.alt.png 02:47, March 27, 2011 (UTC) '''Re-uploaded. '''How do I rename it? And I'll thicken the black later when I have time. 03:44, March 27, 2011 (UTC) :Rainwillow: Whatever you are using to edit your image, save it, left click, there will be a list of suggestions, rename it Silverstream.warrior.alt, and upload it as a different image and replace the current image with the different one. Icy123 ♥ 14:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC) :Blur the shading. 16:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Darken the white some more; it still looks white, and not silver. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 04:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Make the ear pink more centered and blur it. Smudge the black transition. Nightshine 05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. Does it still look white? Could somebody help me with the black and the shading? However much I blur the shading, it still looks the same. 11:07, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Not to dark, it looks like gray. I would try along the side between white and gray. So its not gray, but its like a light gray, 13:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon I can help blur the shading. I'll do it right now, and I can lighten the silver parts like Feathermoon said too. =3 21:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Thanks Mossy! 10:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Wait... When she was described as black and gray I think they meant she was gray with black stripes, her being a tabby and all. It's like saying Brambleclaw is black and brown...  Darkhallows...Mew? 06:17, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Actually she was described as black and silver not black ans gray. XD It didn't say anything about her being a silver-and-black tabby on page fifteen in Forest of Secrets, but I could always fix it. Anyone else who agrees with Darkhallows? 10:25, March 30, 2011 (UTC) I thik that it should stay like this; It isnèt the same kind of thing like ginger cats, they natrally have stripes. Silver and Black cats have never had natral stripes unless listed as tabbys. (Feathermoon but not logged it :3) Feathermoon, what? A silver and black tabby is very possible. She's a tabby, mentioned as black and silver/ I was thinking that too, but I just never got around to mentioning it. xD Rainwillow silver is a shade of gray, same thing. They never said anything about her being tabby on that page, but she IS tabby. :P 22:09, March 30, 2011 (UTC) Hmm...You do have a point there, Mossy. And since she is a tabby, I will agree with Darkhallows. 22:19, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon This (click) is a silver tabby. I would describe that as black and silver. Darkhallows...Mew? 01:17, March 31, 2011 (UTC) So is it agreed? Should I change this as a silver she-cat cat with black stripes? 04:39, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Yes, I belive so. 13:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Blur the shading and haunch highlight. (This is Mintstarr.)98.22.139.18 21:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Considering her main picture is a silver tabby, I don't think she needs an alternate. Darkhallows...Mew? 06:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC) Wait....so is this going to be declined? Frostheart? Night shine? What do you guys think? 11:35, April 1, 2011 (UTC) :Make the ear pink smaller. Smudge the transistions more. Make the ear pink more reddish. Brighten the highlights. Fix the lineart on the tail. -- 01:25, April 2, 2011 (UTC) :Make the black more stripey or tabbylike. Mistfire Spring rainfalls  02:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC) :Well, im not the lead, or deputy, but, I think that Silver-and-black is different from, Silver tabby, Im just an apperentice, so my opion my not mean much, but I still think this should stay up.... Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 14:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC) I think this should stay up since black-and-silver is much different than just a silver tabby. --Nightshine 17:54, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Okay, since it's going to stay up, do I have to change it to a silver cat with black stripes as Darkhallows said? 02:14, April 3, 2011 (UTC) That's what I would do, but I guess it's up to you, as it didn't specify. Blur the shading. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 03:53, April 3, 2011 (UTC) '''Re-uploaded. '''Okay, after I read all of these comments, I decided to make Silverstream's alt. image into a silver cat with black stripes. I made the stripes similar to Silverstream's warrior image, so I hope it looks okay. Does the silver still looks white? Mossy, are you still going to help me blur the shading? If not, could somebody help me blur it? 07:20, April 3, 2011 (UTC) *bangs head on desk* I hate myself for making those hard forsaken markings! Anyways... ^^ you missed a few of the markings on her leg from her warrior image, basically on her hind leg and forepaw thats like behind her from our point of view. Also blur and I'll help if Mossy isn't able to. Also don't forget to add in shading and blur the ear pink as well.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:38, April 3, 2011 (UTC) '''Re-uploaded. ''' 01:06, April 4, 2011 (UTC) The stripes need to be blurred as well. The edges of them looked smudged-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:17, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. How about now? 01:39, April 4, 2011 (UTC) The markings on her back still seem a tad blotchy where the black meets the silver :/ what program do you use by chance?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:07, April 4, 2011 (UTC) I use pixlr. The stripes looks fine to me. 02:14, April 4, 2011 (UTC) I agree with Rainwillow; the stripes look no blotchier then the ones on her regular warrior image. All I would suggest is shrink the big black spot in the middle of her back a tad. 02:44, April 4, 2011 (UTC) The stripes dont mave to match her warriors image because this is an alternate. Someone tried to match the Tigerheart stripes on an alt and someone said they didn't have to match. But if you want to do it like this, you can. 96.51.53.81 03:32, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Re-uploaded. I made the black spot a bit smaller. Does anything else need to be fixed? 08:23, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Make the earpink more triangular because on your picture it shows it where one part of it is full but the other side looks kinda wrong...Honeybreeze 15:28, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Looks great, Rainey! Lighten the ear pink and center it. 22:47, April 4, 2011 (UTC) I think the shading on the black parts needs to be defined a bit. The grey parts look good! Ivystripe 00:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Re-uploaded. The earpink is horrible! Could somebody help me on it? 04:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded. Fixed the earpink again with Frostheart's help. Does it look to bright? 04:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Patch (K) - For Approval== Comments? I took all the colours from his kittypet image. Nightshine 00:45, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the earpink a little. This looks great! 00:57, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded lightened ear pink. Nightshine 01:00, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Make the earpink a little bigger. 01:13, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Blur the white patch on his chest just a tad more and darken the shading under his chin a tad. Lovely work! ScarletwindStep into theLight 01:22, March 31, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded blurred white chest, made ear pink bigger, darkened chin shading. Nightshine 02:13, March 31, 2011 (UTC) :CBA? 00:02, April 1, 2011 (UTC) :Darken the nose pink a tad, it looks pale. Maple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 00:57, April 1, 2011 (UTC) That's because it's on white. It looks fine to me. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:00, April 1, 2011 (UTC) The eyes seem a little dark to me, but it just might be my school's computers. Lol. Nice job on this :P Ivystripe 16:33, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe I took the eye colours from his kittypet image, so it should be fine. Thanks! --Nightshine 02:56, April 2, 2011 (UTC) CBA? (My first one :D!) 20:40, April 2, 2011 (UTC) The ear pink looks. . . uneven but I guess it doesn't really matter and the whole thing is quite dark. The shading looks almost pure black. 20:46, April 2, 2011 (UTC) It looks fine to me. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 03:55, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :There's like a gray pixel where his leg is touching his chest fur. It might be because of the whole white touching the lineart thing, but just to be sure I would say check it.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded fixed up pixels --Nightshine 21:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC) It doesn't look fine to me. It's way too dark. 22:34, April 3, 2011 (UTC) Does it look dark to anyone else? It looks fine on my screen. Nightshine 22:39, April 3, 2011 (UTC) :He looks perfectly fine on my screen as well Nightshine-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:36, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Can you blur the shading on the paws a tad more? 01:38, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded blurred shading on paws. Nightshine 23:52, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Looks great! Blur the white on the tail. 00:04, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Re-Uploaded blurred white on tail. Nightshine 00:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Ice (K) - For Approval== 19:13, April 4, 2011 (UTC) :Beautiful. Make the earpink more pinkish. 19:33, April 4, 2011 (UTC) :Darken the shading. :3 20:02, April 4, 2011 (UTC) :I agree about the shading, it just needs defined a bit. Ivystripe 20:32, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Make the ear pink smaller so that it doesn't cover the whole ear. 21:59, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Darken the earpink a tad bit.Ice Cave 22:16, April 4, 2011 (UTC) ==Ivypool (W)- For Approval== Here's what I got of her so far! Critique? Ivystripe 02:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Pretty good! Blur the highlights and earpink some more, and add some smaller patches. She also has white paws, so fix that. Lighten the white some more, too, so it doesn't look so gray, and add shading. If all the darker gray is the shading, thin it out. 02:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Dont make the highlights so bright. 02:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Darken the ear pink and lighten the silver fur. -- 02:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Extend the highlights on the forelegs, brighten the highlight on the gray part of her forehead, darken the ear-pink a tad. ScarletwindStep into theLight 03:13, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I had a feeling I made the shading too dark. By the way, I got the ear pink from her apprentice image, so I thought that should be right? If not, oh well Ivystripe 16:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Make her white where you had the gray (like her apprentice image). Darken the ear pink to a darker colour. Also whiten her paws and where was the tail-tip from? I'll need to check her charart at the moment E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:41, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded. Darkened the ear pink, lightened the shading, tried to add more light parts to the legs. Ivystripe 19:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Lighten the whole thing up, it looks too grey. 19:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I uploaded the fixed version but it's not showing. This isn't right....Ivystripe 19:54, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Make the highlights bigger and make the earpink more triangle-shaped. 19:56, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Stunning! blur the highlights a tad, and lighten the white, to make it look, whiter....(<FAIL WORD DX) there seems to be a lighter part on her legs, IDK what it is, so blur it out, if its highlight, its dosen't go thereMaple♥poolI'm a star gazer~ 21:25, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Swoop (CG)~ For Approval== Before everyone says change the ear pink, it's the same as the queen image and staying that way. Comments? 02:33, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Hm, make the paws ginger and the tail tip ginger. Smudge the mud streaks so they are a little uneven. Darken the shading. Nightshine 02:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Maybe make the streaks thicker and make less of them. They kinda make her look like a tabby... ScarletwindStep into theLight 03:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaed- Sorry Scarletwind, i didnt see your comment until after i re-uploaed it. I kinda did it anyway though. Anyways i redid the stripes. 03:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC) The mud streaks kind of look ordered and arranged. Try making it more spontaneous in random places. Make the earpink more noticeable and darken shading on the right side, unless it's coming from there..XD 21:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Brook (KM)- For Approval==  Comments? Ravensoul101 02:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Make the ear pink bigger nad lighten it. Darken the shading and blur it. Darken the nose colour. Smudge the markings. Nightshine 02:43, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Move the white pixel in her left eye, it makes her look kind of cross-eyed. Brighten the highlights a tad. ScarletwindStep into theLight 03:15, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Darken the ear pink. Make it a darker colour. Also make the ear pink not reach to the tip of her fur. Even up the fur. E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:38, April 5, 2011 (UTC) The markings on her flank could be smudged a little. Ivystripe 19:55, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe ==Pebble (CG) -For approval-== Pebble is my fave. Tribe cat ^^. Comments? 02:51, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the ear pink. -- 03:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Brighten the highlights, ear-pink, darken the shading a tad, and make the mud a bit more noticeable. ScarletwindStep into theLight 03:10, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded  16:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the rightish side of Pebble. Make it lighter. Also do caveguards have legs? E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Does the mud have shading? I can't tell if it does or not, but some of the shading is kind of hard to tell. That could just be me though. Ivystripe 19:16, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe ==Rushtail (RC) (W) - For Approval== Finally! I'm getting sick of all the gray apprentices X3 03:03, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Define the stripes a tad more, darken the ear-pink, and darken the shading a bit more. ScarletwindStep into theLight 03:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Desaturate the stripes; they're greyer on her apprentice image. -- 03:12, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded  04:39, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Make the eyes lighter and darken her pelt a tiny bit,Honeybreeze 12:08, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ﻿Reuploaded  17:22, April 5, 2011 (UTC) You've got a really big dark patch. Lighten it up a bit E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:18, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I believe that's the shading. 19:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Brighten the highlights on the tail. 19:51, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded  19:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Dark shadow over water TB- Declined== Hey, before anybody says anything about my withdraw of Barley K and the dumb shading, Im not at home so I couldn't use my beloved GIMP, so I was stuck with pixlr. And About the barley, I was really hoping to get it approved before SOTM came out so I could do one of these. I already have my next charart plan for when with one, and if its approved i'll only have one more charart left until i'm a warrior on PCA. Thats my plan and my excplination. '''Comment feircly! No jokes! Feather''' 03:18, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Blur the shading a tad more, desaturate it on his stomach and darken it just a tad. ScarletwindStep into theLight 03:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Feathermoon, this will have to be declined. Splashpelt14 reserved it before you. Sorry. 03:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Rainlegs is right. And you may receice a temporary ban from commenting, but im not sure if that is a rule. 03:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Wait, But I reserved him really late last night. Nobody had him. I made sure. Feather 13:22, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon Sorry, but Rainlegs is right. Splashpelt did reserve this first. 19:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC) So does that mean i can take over my barley again? Feather 22:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon == Pine That Clings To Rock(K)- Declined == Okay, so everyone else has been posting their new tribe cat images, so here's Pine. Again.CardinalfireMy fluffy yellow cake! I moved it to the correct section. Blur the shading, make the earpink a little larger, and brighten the highlights a tad. 03:33, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Moonflight had this reserved first, if you had read my revert on the main page you would have know that. You may receive a temporary ban. 03:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC) WHAT?! I checked the WHOLE thing before I reserved this character art! Do you know what time she reserved it, because I'm pretty sure it was after I did. I swear, though, I had no idea; please don't BAN me.CardinalfireMy fluffy yellow cake! It's right in the history, go look for yourself. She reserved, and then directly after you reserved it as well, then i reverted you edit telling you this would happen. Moonflight had it first. Sorry. 03:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Oh, well. Live and learn. If it's okay, I reserved Snow's to-be image.CardinalfireMy fluffy yellow cake! ==Lark That Sings at Dawn (Ki) - For Approval== I could have sworn I just posted this, but I don't see it anywhere.... huh. Anways, here's Lark! She was just described as a pale tabby in the browse inside for Sign of the Moon and I won't be able to get the book for a couple months. If she's actually given a color anywhere, please tell me and I'll change it to that. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:47, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Lighten her left ear, not the ear-pink. Actually make sure the whole left side is a bit lighter. If this isn't really help just tell me. E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC) The shading seems a tad dark to me. Ivystripe 19:18, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe I don't think she will get a charart if she was never given a specific color. If she is describe as a color in the book though, she can get one. 19:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Oakheart (Alt. W) - For Approval== Since Frostheart agreed.. I decided to do it. I admit, this is the first one I've done from scratch. So, comments anyone? Cloudskye 16:46, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Make the pelt color lighter and more brown. Make the earpink smaller and get rid of the blurred lineart on the ear. 20:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Troutstream (W) - For Approval== ﻿Here she is. ^_^ I took all of the colors from her apprentice charart, and tried a different style of shading. Comments? 20:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Blur the stripes and save it as a .png please 21:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Darken the shading on the back. You don't have to save it as a .png, it can be .gif. 21:02, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Fail. Not darken the shading on the back. XD But since it's coming from the front, maybe make it thicker. Lovely job. :3 21:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC) :Dude...this is just amazing. I see nothing wrong with it whatsoever instead of the things already pointed out. 21:24, April 5, 2011 (UTC) :Blur the stripes on the flank just a touch more, brighten the ear-pink, and define the stripes on the tail. ScarletwindStep into theLight 21:33, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Screech (PH) -For Approval == Comments welcome. Crystalstar999 10:51, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Beautiful! Add some more mud streaks and please put this in the correct section =) 17:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Oh, and rename this Screech.ph.png  17:07, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Moved to the right section. Make the eyes match the prey hunter ones here (obviously without the eyelashes). -- 20:54, April 5, 2011 (UTC) =Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion. == Oakheart's Alternate Warrior == Hey there guys. I was looking through the declined images, and I noticed that Oakheart's was withdrawn. Now, it's on the table, but I don't see it up here, as in I don't think anyone's working on it. Do any of you mind if I take a crack at it? It seems like a challenge, and that's exactly what I need. Skye Meow 17:18, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Did you read why it was withdrawn? Somebody said that there is no need for an alt because tawny and oakhearts color are alike and it wouldnt be worth the trouble for a minor mistake or something like that I think. right? 21:04, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon I always thought that tawny was more orange and Oakheart's color was more brown. Huh. Maybe I'm mistaken. Someone prove me wrong, please. Skye Meow 22:04, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Oakheart is a red-brown color which is almost ginger, and tawny is like what Pinestar's alternate is. 22:14, March 24, 2011 (UTC) If you compare Pinestar's alternate leader image, with what is up on Oakheart's page now, there is a very visible difference, in my opinion. I'd personally like to try this, but, I don't know if I'm allowed, since someone has it reserved on the table. (But I'm not sure if it's really being done)Skye Meow 22:22, March 24, 2011 (UTC) Pinestar is red brown and got an alt for being mentioned as tawny. Oakheart is red brown and was mentioned as tawny. Same thing, no? 23:21, March 25, 2011 (UTC) I agree that it should get an alternate =) 23:27, March 25, 2011 (UTC) Well, I definitely think that red-brown and tawny are too similar, so Pinestar shouldn't get an alternate, especially if Oakheart doesn't get one. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 02:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC) I agre with Wildheart. If you looked at the little color-swatches we posted in Oakheart's alt section, you can see how similar tawny is to red-brown.  02:29, March 26, 2011 (UTC) I wouldn't say so . . . tawny is light brown, doesn't seem to close to reddish brown, but, if everyone else thinks so, then shouldn't we decline Pinestar?  00:55, March 27, 2011 (UTC) Webster's Dictionary's site defines tawny as "a warm sandy color" and lists the synonyms "fair, flaxen, golden, sandy, straw, blond"; nothing about being reddish, so I agree that he should have one. -- 01:15, March 27, 2011 (UTC) The problem is that tawny is a very flexible colour. It can be anything from a darker reddish brown to a pale golden-brown. So I don't believe either of them should get an alternate. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 03:14, March 27, 2011 (UTC) What? No, tawny is light brown and light brown only. 00:05, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Not really. If you look it up in different dictionaries, you can come up with anything from dark reddish-brown to pale golden-brown, as I stated above. So, no, they don't really need alternates. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 00:08, March 28, 2011 (UTC) I know this seems delayed, but I agree with Goldenpaw (erm...Goldenpelt?). Webster is a very reliable sorce. However, I'll ask one of the leads and see what they say about it. Skye Meow 12:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Really? I agree with Cloudskye, plus, can you show me some dictionaries that had different defintions for tawny? I went on like five different ones, and they all said what Goldenpaw said. 22:36, March 28, 2011 (UTC) I agree that he should get an alternate, and most dictionaries do say that, or that it means tan or yellow-brown. 22:39, March 28, 2011 (UTC) Wikipedia says that tawny is a 'yellowish brown color.' I'll check my Webster's Dictionary sometime soon. EDIT: Websters defines it as 'brownish orange.' I think he should get an alt. 20:52, March 30, 2011 (UTC) I asked Frostheart on her talk page, but I still havn't gotten a reply. I won't start anything until I get the okay from either Nightshine or Frostheart. Skye Meow 22:01, March 31, 2011 (UTC) I do agree that tawny and Oakheart's colour right now are different. I always imagine tawny as a sandy colour, while Oakhear'ts colour is well..reddish-brown. XD 17:24, April 2, 2011 (UTC) Okay, Frostheart agreed, so I guess you can do it :D  00:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Okay. I've added it to the table. This can be archived, I guess. Skye Meow 12:48, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Brackenfur and Thornclaw=Ginger?== I've seen a Brackenfur alt be decline because Brackenfur is ginger, yet golden brown tabby and ginger are different from each other, both genetically and appearance-wise. I'll use color to illustrate: :This is taken from a photo of a golden brown tabby. :This is taken from a photo of a ginger cat. The golden brown is, well, brown, while the ginger is definitely orange. -- 00:25, March 26, 2011 (UTC) But the two colours are similar enough that an alt isnt nesseccary. 00:28, March 26, 2011 (UTC) And yet Ivypaw gets one for being described with with a silver pelt when she's a silver tabby... :/ -- 01:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Well, she's a silver and white tabby, so she gets one. If she had been an all silver tabby, she probably wouldn't get an alt. --WildheartBack from Maui; tanless 01:41, March 26, 2011 (UTC) But golden brown and ginger are the same colour. . . google 'golden brown cat', see what you get. And the Erin's obviously think so too, considering how frequently he's described as ginger. . . I mean, once, maybe would be a mistake, but this is no mistake. 02:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC) They aren't the same. Half the results you get are just ginger as. These are golden brown. But whatever, I'm not going to argue. :/ -- 02:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Those are brown tabbies. Not golden brown. Well, okay, then. I guess this ends now. 03:00, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Side note: the World Cat Federation defines a golden brown tabby as warm golden brown to apricot with black markings. -- 03:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Warriors: Not the World Cat Federation. Never said a thing about black markings anyways. 03:45, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Warriors Wiki: encyclopedia. It should be as accurate as possible. :/ The black markings were mentioned to emphasize the fact that golden brown is not ginger. -- 03:50, March 26, 2011 (UTC) But the black markings change everything. He doesn't have black markings. Therefore, he can't be that colour. Okay, acuracy has nothing to do with realism. They have brown and ginger patches cats, gray cats with white patches. . . I don't think they cared much about realism. 05:19, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Doesn't change the fact that he's a golden brown tabby and not ginger. The colors are nothing alike. -- 05:37, March 26, 2011 (UTC) One of the leads should archive this. I'm tired of debating. :/ -- 05:55, March 26, 2011 (UTC) Goldenpelt, are you saying that you don't think they need the alternates anymore, or you just don't want to debate about it anymore? :P 15:54, March 27, 2011 (UTC) :It looks like it's just the latter. I think he still stands by his opinion. 20:31, March 29, 2011 (UTC) Its been a long time. Is it decided yet? 00:02, April 5, 2011 (UTC) The way I see it, ginger and golden-brown are very similar colours so I don't think either of them should get alternates. They have both been described as golden-brown and ginger many times, so we should just assume that's they're actual colour. Nightshine 00:04, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I think that during the next Tweak Weak, we make their images a bit more gingery. That's just my opinion. 02:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Ravenkit? == In Bluestar's Prophecy, isn't he mentioned as a kit? Does he need charart for it? Ivystripe 20:39, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Well, it only said "since he was born", so I don't think so. 21:48, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Unless "born" means, kit, of course XD Then it would get one :P 21:49, April 4, 2011 (UTC) No he doesn't get a kit image because he was never seen as a kit. --Nightshine 23:57, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Ok, I just wanted to be sure. It's been a while since I read the book ^^; Ivystripe 23:59, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe == Can I join? == Hi, I'm 0xo. :) Can I join? 0xo 21:09, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Can you resrve a charart as soon as it comes out? Like right at midnight or something? .Skystar. 22:04, April 4, 2011 (UTC) Once it is April 5th then you can reserve the characters. I'll add you in now. Please read the basic guidelines before reserving an image.--Nightshine 23:57, April 4, 2011 (UTC) It's techinically April 5th now, or is it the 4th where you is?? .Skystar. 00:08, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Skystar, please make a new section when you have a new subject. Of course you can join 0xo. I suggest you look at some tutorials and the basic guidelines. 01:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Question! == Can someone post a charart even if the book isn't realeased but you accurately know what the character looks like? Atelda 01:03, April 5, 2011 (UTC) If the book hasn't been released, then you can't reserve the character. Nightshine 01:07, April 5, 2011 (UTC) No its, the fourth. And Nightshine is right. MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 01:23, April 5, 2011 (UTC) It's acctually the 5th on the wiki so you can reserve SotM chararts. 01:25, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Softpaw Lineart? == Do we need lineart for Softpaws? They all have To-be lineart right now and, in my opinion, saying those are the same thing is like saying an Apprentice and a To-be are the same thing. Just wondering. I MIGHT be able to make some, but I wanted to ask here before I even tried. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:05, April 5, 2011 (UTC) The difference is that the Ancients and the Tribe are one an the same, while the they and the Clans are not. -- 01:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Join Request == Hey everyone, I'm Willow! :) I'm so glad I joined the Warriors Wiki community, and now I'm wondering if I can join PCA. Thanks! 01:24, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Bird That Rides The Wind's pelt. == Don't bash me for reserving her elder image because I was told we could reserve Sign of the Moon characters. Anyways I read the Browse for it and in the Allegiances she is listed as a gray-brown instead of gray tabby. Which should I do? MINTSTARR That peaceful Hawaiian breeze.... 01:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I'd say make her a gray-brown tabby. In her first appearance in Moonrise, she was described as that, which compromises both descriptions. -- 01:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Kit Mothers?== I reserved Night's kit mother image, and I want to know whether I should put mud in her pelt. Swoop and Wing have it, but I don't think it makes sense to put in in; they wouldn't need it because they wouldn't leave the Cave of Rushing Water when they're nursing their kits. -- 01:55, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I've always thought that, I just never asked about it. xD I dunno, it kinda just seems like extra work to fix those chararts so I would sat just add mud. 01:56, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Sorry but Moonflight reserved Night's image before you. 02:29, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Dont worry about it Moonflight has Pine. 02:35, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == DOVEWING == I'm reserving DOVEWING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Honeybreeze 11:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Dovewing (W)~Declined == I'm so proud of this picture. I know you are going to say to like blur the ear pink or something and yes I know. I forgot about that. :') But this is my first picture! Comments?Honeybreeze 12:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC) -Lighten the charart, blur the earpink and the shading, and get rid of it on the tail. Use the dodge tool instead of the pencil. 我如何爱春天 雲⻗晴Ice Cave雲⻗晴我如何爱春天 12:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Honeybreeze, if you look closely at the charart chart, you'll see that Skystar has already reserved Dovewing's warior image. This will have to be declined I think. 13:10, April 5, 2011 (UTC) OMG my heart is crushed now... :'( Honeybreeze 21:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == could I join? == I'd like to join PCA, please. I'm pretty new; but I've helped edit character pages and I've read the basic guidelines. Also; um, since I see a lot of people are making chararts for characters from Sign of the Moon, could I reserve Splash When Fish Leap's prey hunter image? If not; I can wait until the book itself comes out, or I can just look for another image. Thanks. Koisplash 12:07, April 5, 2011 (UTC) You may join and since the book came out today I would say you could have it...I'm doing Dovewing.Honeybreeze 12:10, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Really? Oh...I'm quite slow when it comes to book releases; I usually get the book much later, so I'm kind of behind on the updates. xD But thanks. Koisplash 12:12, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Reservation== May I please reserve Rain?我如何爱春天 雲⻗晴Ice Cave雲⻗晴我如何爱春天 12:47, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ]] You don't have to ask to reserve images. It's a first-come first-serve basis. [Rainlegs, not logged in] Wildheart already reserved her, so you'll have to find some other charart to do. 19:41, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Reservation == May i reserve Cloud with Star In Belly? Lightningstar of ThunderClan :You don't have to ask to reserve images. Just make sure no one else has it claimed on the table beforehand. Cloudskye 18:43, April 5, 2011 (UTC) ==Join Request== Hi I'm Moomzee. I've been practicing chararts now, I've gotten good. May I join? Heres an example of my work. Thanks! Firespark I like trains 19:58, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == Join Request == Hi, can I join? :) 20:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC) == ??? == Ok if Dovewing's warrior doesn't get accepted may I do Mossypaw's warrior picture? But if they allow Dovewing then yay. But Skystar technically never asked to do her warrior sooo. We'll see. Honeybreeze 21:13, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I don't think Mossypaw becomes a warrior in Sign of the Moon  21:29, April 5, 2011 (UTC) I know I'm not a member on here (and I never will with my horrible art skills), but you have to reserve on the chart on the page of Project: Charart. You do not need to ask to reserve, but you have to be fast enough to reserve. ♥Phoenixfeather:The flowers are blooming...♥ 21:32, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Yeah, they never go by who asked. I'm sorry, but that's the rules :( Ivystripe 21:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe == Dovewing (W) - for approval ==  Mmmm k. I have Dovewing's warrior image. :D .Skystar. 22:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC) Completely darken the image to match her apprentice with means darken the shading a TON!Honeybreeze 22:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)