Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Tweak Nominations/Declined 7

Grasskit (CP) (Ki) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Grasskit (CP).kit.png I can barely see the shading, so it could use definition. 18:07, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * 18:10, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
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 * 20:16 Mon Oct 19
 * 20:43, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * 23:29, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * 23:31, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Flykit - Redo Nomination
File:Flykit.kit.png This is his only image, and I'm the OA. I'm really not happy with how this image turned out ultimately. I'm not happy with the shading, nor the coloring. I do still have the file, so officially it could be a tweak, but the end result would basically be redone. Since it's a solid, tweaking shading and coloring is as good as redoing completely. This probably goes without saying, but I'd like this if it passes.
 * 19:31, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just because you don't like how it looks, doesn't mean you have the means to redo it. It matches the description and it looks fine. 19:35, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * The shading could just be smoothed out, but other than that, I don't see much of an issue. Tweaking it would be fairly easy.
 * As I said, yes I could tweak it, but essentially it would be redone at that point, since it's a solid. I'd be happy to change this to a tweak nomination if that's the problem.
 * The shading is fine. It doesn't have to be perfect. 19:51, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * i honestly like it the way it is 19:59, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware that images don't have to be perfect. But isn't the goal of this project to make the highest quality images it can? This is his only image, and im thw oa of it, so what would be bad about tweaking it? I don't feel the image is anywhere near as good as it could be, and honestly the shading makes me cringe when I look at it. I would understand saying no if he had multiple images, but since he only has one, I fail to see the problem with tweaking it.
 * if people are voting no, then they obviously think the quality is high enough. 20:30, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem with tweaking it is that it dosen't need to be tweaked. If the goal of the project is to make them the highest quality, then everyone's going to try and redo their art because "they don't like it". It's good enough as it is, and he doesn't need to be tweaked. 21:26, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * this is a great image. I see no reason as to redoing it. 21:28, October 22, 2015 (UTC)

Lionblaze (Alt. W) ~ Redo Nomination
File:Lionblaze.warrior.alt.png Needs texture removed apparently 07:37, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I still have the file, so it can be tweaked. Also, when did we decide this? I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just don't know when we decided this. If this passes, though, it's mine. 14:19, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * can be tweaked ^ 14:39, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Blue, he can't have the texture because he isn't shown with texture in the graphic novel at the end of BS, which is where the alt is from. 14:46 Thu Oct 22
 * I know that, I just didn't realize that meant he couldn't have it. 15:21, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Was there ever a proper discission about textures on graphic novel alts? Cause texturing isn't actual markings, so it doesn't contradict the image in the book.
 * That's what I'm wondering. 20:25, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I was always under the presumption that we were supposed to depict the cat as they were in the graphic novel- I know texture isn't markings, but the art does show them as solid cats. I dunno, it started with a comment I made and I think people are taking the "I think this should be done" (an opinion) as "this is PCA law now and must be followed".
 * I love this texture but I never understood why it has it, since he is depicted as a completely solid cat in the graphic novel. 21:26, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hm...he definitely needs to be tweaked to remove the texture. I don't know if Blue can tweak it, but if she can, then it should be all hers. :) 21:28, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * All I need to do is remove the texture layers. It's easy when you have the file, which I do. 21:32, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * should I move this into the tweak section then? 23:14, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Archive this then nominate for tweak. I don't think it should be moved directly to the tweak section. 23:43, October 22, 2015 (UTC)

Snooky - Tweak Nomination
Er, maybe some people already noticed and discussed this, but in Snooky's Character Gallery, his collar is a different color in every picture. His kittypet picture shows it to be blue, his daylight-apprentice shows it to be pink, and his daylight-warrior shows it to be gray-ish. Wouldn't it be better if the collar was always the same color?


 * collars can change overtime- there is no requirement for collars to match. 23:27, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * no 23:32, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * the rule is unless it's pointed out, then it's artist choice. 23:43, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * 02:29, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * yknow youre actually supposed to replace collars every so often? especially flea ones. 05:20, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 05:33, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

Cherrytail ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Cherrytail.queen.png As per Skype consensus, needs more white. The kit is mine because i'm the OA. 02:53, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 03:10, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Skype consensus =/= project consensus. She fits the description of tortie with white, it's a needless tweak.
 * 04:47, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 04:50, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * it fits its description 04:55, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * leave it alone 05:12, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 05:34, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 05:35 Fri Oct 23
 * She has tortie parts and white parts, therefore she is tortie and white. 13:19, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

Poppycloud - Redo Nomination
File:Poppycloud.warrior.png etc. As per the vote, needs the white removed. If the OAs don't object, I'd like the warrior. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:52, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 07:00, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * tweakable 07:26, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * tweak it 07:38 Fri Oct 23
 * seeing as how i redid the queen, I can easily remove the white 09:42, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 13:21, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * tweak 13:47, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:25, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * She is described as tortie and white. misread name. But tweakable. 14:52, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't personally care about having the warrior, but I do in fact still have the file for it, so if anyone needs it just let me know.

Tawnypelt - Redo Nomination
File:Tawnypelt.warrior.png etc. According to vote, needs white removed. I'd like the apprentice. 14:58, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * that's grey. she's a pale tortie. 15:05 Fri Oct 23
 * In her queen it looks white to me 15:12, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's white in every image. The shading on the warrior is making it look gray 15:17, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * honestly i think it was intended to be grey except for the bits around the eyes. it wouldn't be THAT grey if it wasn't 15:24 Fri Oct 23
 * in any case its TWEAKABLE. ivy probably still has the image for the warrior and not every single image has to be REDONE. 17:34, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * tbh it looks kind of purple 18:35, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Whether this is a tweak or redo, I don't personally care, but I do agree that the gray is a bit too purple/blue tinted. I've always thought that, but it was never a good enough reason to tweak on its own. But since this is going to be tweaked anyways, that should definitely be changed to either be more gray (desaturated), or lean more towards a gray-brown rather than a purple-gray.
 * Nope. 19:09, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's gray, not white.
 * I made the queen; it's not gray, it's white. Whether this is redone or tweaked idc, but I'd like to have the queen. 20:47, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 21:11, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 01:01, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * 01:06 Sat Oct 24

Lionblaze (Alt W) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Lionblaze.warrior.alt.png needs texture removed 02:29, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Still mine. 02:47, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 04:58, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * theres no offical thing on this as far as i know, so the votes no. 05:21, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * 05:34, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Wait, why does the texture need to be removed? Jayie  Unwritten words~ 05:53, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * because the graphic novels don't show him with texture 12:02, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Texture is not part of the patterning, therefore this matches the manga depiction just fine. Unless there was a rule decided on this that I'm unaware of, it's fine.
 * Like what's been said, it's not marking, so it doen't go against the manga, and as far as I know, we've never decided against having texture on such images. 19:03, October 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, texture isn't part of a pattern, it's part of an artist's style and how they portray the fur texture on their art, it has nothing to do with the cat's markings, so there's no reason that the manga not having texture should mean that the charart doesn't. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 01:05, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * 02:14, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * well, if you think about it, we are giving him the alt because of how he is portrayed in the manga. he is portrayed as a solid. 02:27, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Reedshine (MV) ~ tweak nomination
File:Reedshine (MV).warrior.png needs shading smoothed out more 21:48, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me o.O
 * 21:49, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * 21:54, October 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * 22:49 Sun Oct 25
 * 22:55, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Slate (Ro) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Slate.rogue.png She got the second torn ear as an Early Settler, so one should be removed. Mine. 17:37, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * 21:11, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * 22:37, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Does this need to be nominated? Can't it just be reverted to the old one, and then tweaked (and not having to be put up)? 22:48, October 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not sure... Maybe it's just easier to tweak it. 01:38, October 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * just revert it. 04:25, October 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * ^ 00:36, October 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, you want to do it Bluestar? Just get the previous version than copy and paste a scarred ear. 20:44, October 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. 23:53, October 28, 2015 (UTC)

Juniper Branch (Ro) ~ Tweak nomination
File:Juniper Branch.rogue.png needs to be long furred 06:56, November 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * the book isn't released... 11:48, November 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * learn to wait. 11:50, November 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Seriously. Please wait.
 * 13:23, November 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * 13:58, November 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not yet. 13:58 Sun Nov 1
 * Alder was tweaked before the book was released. Tbh is this really a big deal? 14:01, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Flower Foot (K) ~ Redo Nomination
http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/File:Flower_Foot.kit.png Needs to be tan striped and I don't think that would look realistic on a tortie. --Dewsplash (talk) 02:55, November 3, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 02:55, November, 3, 2015
 * she doesnt even have a full description so we cant even make a charart for her 02:57, November 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * These would be alts. Declining nomination.

Dew Petal (K) ~ Redo Nomination
http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dew_Petal.kit.png Needs to silver and white. --Dewsplash (talk) 03:00, November 3, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 03:00, November, 3, 2015
 * These would be alts. Declining nomination.

Spottedpelt ~ Redo Nomination
File:Spottedpelt.star.png Needs white removed. 21:43 Thu Nov 5 It is stated specifically that she looks very much like Spottedleaf, who does have white. -- 22:10, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * I actually think Spottedpelt should be redone to look more like Spottedleaf. Spottedleaf has had a few tweaks and changes. 22:15, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * She is said to look similar to spottedleaf, but not exactly the same, so I think it's fine, personally. 22:30 Thu Nov 5
 * leave it 00:38 Fri Nov 6
 * I'm gonna try this is Mounty doesn't want it. 01:11, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * 01:33, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * All it says is that they look a lot alike, not exactly the same. If white isn't in the description it shouldn't be on the charart.  02:00, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * its a striking resemblance. christ. 06:05, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Mounty wants it 06:09, 06, 11, 2015
 * "striking" was used for a reason, it's fine.
 * 07:50, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * -- 14:51, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * 19:53 Fri Nov 6

Rainsplash (D) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Rainsplash.deputy.png There is a lot of waste leaking outside the edges, particularly around the face and tail. Should be a quick fix. -- 18:42, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * This doesnt need a nomination. Just reupload with the waste fix 19:46, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * you have permission to do this ZootVine. 21:59, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

Leopardfoot ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Leopardfoot.star.png Looks dark brown. I can't tell she's supposed to be black. 21:49 Thu Nov 5
 * -- 22:21, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * only the star seems overly tinted. 22:28, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * They're all too brown. 23:33, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * 00:24, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * they're like that because it's the only way to have a mottled black cat. Leave it alone ffs. 00:36 Fri Nov 6
 * There's no need to be so snappy towards the other users just because you don't like what they are nominating >.> 01:13, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * you can have a very dark gray cat with pure black mottles, there's your mottled black cat 02:12, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Let it goooo, let it gooooo.
 * 05:17, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * 22:56, November 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * 22:57, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

Sandstorm - Tweak Nomination
File:Sandstorm.apprentice.png Her stripes should be barely visible, and yet I can see them very clearly, so tbh they don't match her description. The apprentice is mine as I was the last tweaker. 03:49, November 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I can hardly see them at all. 04:08, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * At first glance, she's a solid cat but on closer inspection you should just spot barely visible stripes. That's my definition of barely visible. 04:22, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * maybe the kit is fine 04:23, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * how many times do we have to go over this. they are fine. <span style="">04:26 Sat Nov 7
 * I cant see em, 04:36, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I think they're barely visible 04:37, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * honestly, if you can see the stripes on her pelt, then it's a problem. Right now, they are honestly too dark, because i can /see/ them (very clearly, in fact) 04:43, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * <span style="">4:55 Sat Nov 7
 * 05:14, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * 05:14, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

Windstar ~ Redo Nomination

 * File:Windstar.kit.png :File:Windstar.loner.png Stripes don't match correctly in terms of placement and color on these images. The loner looks incredibly dark and over blurred, aswell as the source looking off. I am the oa for both images, so I would prefer to redo them considering I do not have the files for either of them anymore. Before you say it's tweakable, keep in mind redoing the stripes and shading will basically make it look completely redone anyways. 00:54, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * ._. 01:06, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 01:53, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * <span style="">2:17 Mon Nov 9
 * I'm sorry Breeze, but I think they match beautifully. 02:40, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the loner's shading needs work though. 05:00, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the loner's shading needs work though. 05:00, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

Foxleap (W) - Tweak Nomination
File:Foxleap.warrior.alt2.png Idk his stripes just seem really ... red to me. They look kinda neonish. It's a quick fix, I'd like it as I still have the file. 03:13, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * They don't with the base color, so yeah. <span style="">3:25 Mon Nov 9
 * ehhhhh 03:29, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * could be smudged too
 * 04:59, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * smudging isnt a requirement for anything. 10:20, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I think it's fine. This was just redone a month ago and I see nothing wrong with it.
 * Tbh it looks fine 21:43, November 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 21:46, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

Hollyleaf - Tweak Nomination
File:Hollyleaf.star.png etc. All her images need to be lightened a bit for two reasons.

1. She's described as the spitting image of crowfeather. While she is described as black and crowfeather as near-black, she shouldn't be far off from his shade.

2. She's described with fur "as dark as holly bark/as dark as a holly branch." I've searched through many many images, and the darkest decent picture I can find is this, which is significantly lighter than her near-pitch black images.

Now you could say that these two things would be considered alternate descriptions and therefore don't require a tweak, but as of right now, they're listed in the main description, so unless it's moved to the trivia, her images need a tweak.

Before anyone asks, yes black cats can vary in shade, both in how dark and how saturated (brownish) they are. Lighting obviously heavily affects things, but they do vary in color nevertheless.
 * I'm gonna be that person because tbh, if she's black, she should look black. I think the "holly branch" thing is not black; it's brown.
 * Ok but two things. First, as far as I'm aware, she's described as being as dark as a holly branch, not the same color (i.e. not brown like one, just the same darkness). Second, the description needs to be moved to her trivia and considered and alternate description in that case. I'm just posting this under the assumption that the holly branch thing does belong in her official description, and is supposed to stay there. If that's not the case then I absolutely agree it shouldn't be tweaked.
 * Then I think it should be changed; how exactly can you have a black cat at that darkness without people wondering if she's actually brown? It doesn't make a lick of sense, and I think we had this discussion back when Leafpool's Wish came out... It's got quite a few different errors, and I think this is another one.
 * Eh I mean the cats I linked at the end aren't far off from that shade. But that being said, usually the lighter a black cat is, the more brown tinted it is. Don't know if that affects anything in this case though.
 * <_< 12:27, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm on the fence about the black thing, but if she's a splitting image of Crowfeather, then wouldn't she need to be short furred and match his images in a somewhat... way? 12:30, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with burntclaw. <span style="">13:40 Tue Nov 10
 * nvm.... she's cited w/ long fur... 14:06, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I nominated her to be darkened a while back because she was too light <.< 14:12, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * i honestly just think its a metaphor. lighten her and she'll look grey, and no, shes been cited with long fur. 17:39, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * 21:02, November 10, 2015 (UTC)

Sloefur ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Sloefur.mc.png shading is extreamly hardedged. Id like this as i am the OA. 23:43, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * 01:01, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * i guess if you want to do it. 01:26, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * <span style="">1:53 Thu Nov 12
 * 05:47, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * 05:47, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

Creekfeather (A) ~ Redo Nomination
File:Creekfeather.apprentice.png my version looks like shit and it doesn't match Skye's beautiful pattern at all. I know I'm the OA but I don't want this since I don't honestly have the ability to match Skye's pattern.
 * It matches fine o.O
 * look at my kit. and pls don't use "shit" on the wiki please... 08:28, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's fine 13:16, November 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * <span style="">13:18 Sat Nov 14
 * It matches fine. 13:23, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

Bubbling Stream (ES)-Tweak Nomination
File:Bubbling Stream.es.pngThere is waste beneath the tail.
 * just remove it. You don't have to nominate it for a tweak
 * Yup, no need to nominate or put up for approval in this case. As long as the waste is the only thing being changed, it's perfectly fine to just go ahead and fix it without posting it anywhere.
 * I'm archiving this 11:21, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Yew Tail ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Yew Tail.es.png The shading is awful and leaking in places. Anyone who wants this can have it; I'll send them the file. 01:31, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * <span style="">2:27 Tue Nov 17
 * may I have this?
 * I'm all for improving images whenever possible, so by all means tweak this, but I have to question what pca's approval standards have come to that an image can get approved, and then barely more than a week later get tweaked.   Remember when images had to be perfect to be approved cuz there was only a week allotted for tweaking images every once in a blue moon?
 * It looks ok to me, to be quite honest. The shading actually looks quite neat. If this is to be tweaked at all, try to keep the same light source and placement. Otherwise, I'm against a tweak. ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 04:55, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * its fine. if no one pointed it out while it was being approved (which was very recently) then it's okay <span style="">06:26 Tue Nov 17
 * 07:44, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * You really should have said something when this was on CBA... It's fine.
 * Despite the fact I am question pca's approval standards, I fail to see how the approval date makes any difference in deciding whether the image should be tweaked or not. The same argument could just as easily been given on any other quality-related tweak that the image should have simply been commented on while it was still up for approval. Why is it any different when the approval was more recent? Approval date shouldn't even be a factor in it. If this nomination were to be put up again in a few months, would the responses be different? I can reasonably assume that the same arguments would no longer apply. Disagreeing that there's even a problem with the image, or that an improvement can be made is one thing. Disagreeing on the basis that all improvements should be made while the image was up is a whole different story. If that's the case, why does the tweak page allow for quality-related tweaks at all? If comments should all be made by the time an image is CBA'd and approved, shouldn't the tweak nominations be reserved for description/lineart related changes only? I don't feel like it's a justified reason to deny a tweak. In this case at least, there are 4 people, including the OA, who feel that the image would benefit from a tweak. 4 people, who I'm sure would have commented while the image was up, had they thought about it/been able to/noticed it. The fact they didn't shouldn't matter. I apologize for ranting, I just feel like there's something wrong with this situation.
 * But many others who've wanted to tweak older images have gotten their nominations declined, including myself. Why should some be allowed to tweak their images, while others should not? I actually don't think it's very fair at all, considering this image was just recently approved. If we allow this, then why is there such an issue with allowing others to not tweak their images? I have nominated quite a few myself and even gotten into arguments over it, because I've wanted to tweak things that others didn't have an issue with, despite being the OA of said images. Given that this was just approved, if there was such an issue with it, then the CBA should have really been broken to address such issues. It is hardly very fair at all to others who've wanted to tweak their images in the past due to such issues. I've noticed that some have gotten quite "pick and choose"-y when it comes to "if the OA wants to do it" and really only use it in certain circumstances. It's hardly fair at all to those who've gotten their nominations declined in the past.
 * just because it was "declined" in the past doesn't mean this shouldn't be approved now. We can easily tweak the guidelines and going on about "mine didn't do this" or something similar doesn't help anything, tbh except for dragging on an "amend" that could stretch on if it isn't fixed. 09:59, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 11:09, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 12:40, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Tigerstar (DF) - Tweak nomination
File:Tigerstar.df.png File:Tigerstar.rogue.png okay so I do know i'm going to get killed for this, but I didn't get a chance to say anything while they were still up. They do not match Hawkfrost and they should. they have texture in which Hawkfrost does not. The stripes are smudged and Hawkfrost doesn't have those. The stripes are too thin, and honestly the stripe pattern doesn't really match anyways. I'm sorry but this is what I think and I really do think they need to be tweaked. 13:21, November 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * No. Texture has nothing to do with the pattern. Texture is artist's choice of representing the fur. When you say they look identical, that would mean the stripe patterns and body shape. Texture is essentially darker and more detailed shading, and shading does not have to match. And, I know this was matching the DF image and if anything, the DF image of Hawkfrost needs to be tweaked, then. I will literally fight until this nomination becomes null. Don't deny the fact that you simply are pissed just because you didn't get to create your own design and you can't match hers because it has fur texture and a complicated pattern. Why don't you just copy and past Hawkfrost's image, if you want them to match 20000000%? It. is. fine. 14:03, November 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * seriously? Texture is fine and i think they match 14:11, November 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Burnt, that was uncalled for. You might not care, but that doesn't mean we don't. That is not why this is being nominated. They need to match Hawkfrost, and with the fur texture and stripes, she feels it doesn't. There is no need to attack her for a nomination. I'm actually extremely tempted to null your vote due to your comments. You have no reason whatsoever to say that- she explained why she's nominating it, and it's a very legitimate reason. And this is for anyone else that comments: friendly reminder that respect is still due and I will warn anyone that attacks another user.
 * the texture is throwing it off a bit. just chill. its cat art. <span style="">14:15 Fri Nov 20
 * Texture =/= pattern. The texture's irrelevant.
 * Texture is basically just shading, which doesn't have to match. Real shading doesn't have to match for images in a set even, so I imagine Tigerstar's texture isn't a problem. <span style="">14:23 Fri Nov 20
 * I'm pretty sure artists are allowed to choose whether they want texture or not. Given that Tigerstar is a completely new image, she's not obligated to keep him textureless. I can see that they match ok. If anything, the stripes on the rogue could stand to be tweaked to look more like Hawkfrost. ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 14:25, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

burnt I would actually appreciate it if you didn't accuse me of wanting my own pattern. What you said was extremely uncalled for and quite rude. I have stated why I nominated it. Do not overreact because you don't want it nominates. 17:18, November 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Adding to my previous comment, as I posted that on mobile and didn't have time to elaborate. I'm nominating this because obviously if the texture is making it not look like its matching, then something's got to change. I am not nominating it simply because I don't want to match the pattern, and if you think that well I'm sorry but that is extremely rude and offensive. Do not make assumpations about me, and I'd really appreciate it if you didn't try to be so rude towards me because I'm nominating something you disagree on. In this case, for when I do Tigrestar's warrior, I am going to match Hawkfrost's warrior, and not Tigerstar's df because it doesn't match. 20:19, November 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * 20:46, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

Poppydawn - tweak nomination
File:Poppydawn.kit.png and File:Poppydawn.warrior.alt.png tail needs to be fixed still 21:25, December 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * They were already renominated... ;;;;
 * yeah... this is declined. 20:51, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

Poppydawn - tweak nomination
File:Poppydawn.kit.png and File:Poppydawn.warrior.alt.png tail needs to be fixed still 21:25, December 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * They were already renominated... ;;;;
 * yeah... this is declined. 20:51, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

Pinenose (Q) - Tweak Nomination
File:Pinenose.queen.png - shading looks really sharp 22:58, December 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * 23:09, December 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * <span style="">23:32 Thu Dec 3
 * 00:07, December 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd like this as I'm the latest tweaker. 21:50, December 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * - I see it more of a bonus effect. — ☆ ｐａｐｅｒ  ·  ｆｉｎｃｈｅｓ  ★  16:33, December 12, 2015 (UTC)
 *  ❄ Blossomstream White Christmas  06:49, December 14, 2015 (UTC)
 *  ❄ Blossomstream White Christmas  06:49, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Dappletail (Q) - Tweak Nomination
File:Dappletail.queen.png The "new version" (it shouldn't have been redone in the first place, as community consensus suggested for it to be tweaked) doesn't match her other images. The patches have an extremely obvious different smudge style, and they seem to have a much softer edge on her other images. The white looks more "blurred" that "smudged" on her other images, and not only that, the patches appear to be denser on the elder image, which is facing the same side. But TL;DR: This doesn't match and needs a fix, or it wouldn't hurt to be reverted back into the old version, which matched well enough. 14:13, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:14, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how the style on the queen image matches the rest of her set.  ❄ Blossomstream White Christmas  14:35, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * The queen is way too smudged and the other images are blurred. 14:45, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * <span style="">14:51 Thu Dec 17
 * Jayie asked to redo it, and you need to stop being so hostile with your comments, Burnt. Chill out. =/
 * 20:04, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 21:22, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * <span style="">01:12 Fri Dec 18
 * 01:13, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Crookedstar ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Crookedstar.kit.png and others. Same as Clovertail. Pale brown should only be on belly and legs, and it's obviously on his chest and muzzle as well 16:28, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * if other images can have it, so can he. the belly and legs already have it so I don't see an issue. 17:37, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * why aren't we allowed to have it on the muzzle when did that happen <span style="">17:47 Thu Dec 17
 * Because it's specifically stated to only be on his legs and underbelly. 18:04, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 20:00, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 01:13, December 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * 01:13, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Dapplepelt (Ro) ~ Redo nomination
File:Dapplepelt.rogue.png Does not match the other images, and I'm pretty sure it was removed from the list before anyone got a chance to match it. 16:37, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * this is a tweak. 17:57, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 20:00, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 21:26, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 01:13, December 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * tweak. 04:01, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Darkstripe ~ Redo Nomination
File:Darkstripe.kit.png and the others (not including the alts). The stipes are unrealistic and don't match. It's just about impossible to tweak without the files. I'd like the rogue, warrior, and apprentice images, as the latest OA, and the kit, since Beebs is gone. 21:19, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * realism is not a reason, and these are fine. 21:23, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think they match and look fine, but I still have the DF file. Speaking of, I'd like my DF if this passes. 21:46, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * 23:13, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * 00:11, November 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * The look fine to me. <span style="">1:54 Thu Nov 12
 * The look fine to me. <span style="">1:54 Thu Nov 12

Goldenflower ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Goldenflower.kit.png, etc. I don't believe there should be the two lighter-colored rings on tail(s), unless directly specificed and cited, and the ear-pink color changes throughout the different images - for example, the kit and elder match with darker red-pinks compared to the other images. Also, the kit and warrior images seem to have much darker stripes than the other images (and I don't /think/ that'd require a redo). 10:12, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * its part of paler markings, its fine. 10:17, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * 11:11, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:00, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * 15:16, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Imo the earpink doesn't match. <span style="">17:56 Mon Dec 21
 * Imo the earpink doesn't match. <span style="">17:56 Mon Dec 21

Earpink doesn't require a tweak nomination, pale underbelly has always been an artist's choice since most tabby-striped cats have an underbelly of some sort. I made sure that all of her images matched since I did every single one except the non pregnant queen. Stripes are hard to 100% match in shape and size amongst the blanks. 18:19, December 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * sorry 01:40, December 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I believe those are pale parts.  ❄ Blossomstream White Christmas  03:25, December 22, 2015 (UTC)