Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Tweak Nominations

TWEAK AND REDO NOMINATIONS ARE CURRENTLY:
 *  OPEN - Nominations can be posted. 
 * CLOSED - Nominations cannot be posted, barring the ones already on this page.

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=Nominations= If you wish to nominate an image, you link the image (like so - ) underneath the appropriate subheading, and list the reason(s) you wish it to be redone/tweaked. Project members with the ranking of warrior or above can vote, and only five votes are necessary for the vote to pass or fail. If you have the ability to archive, make sure that at least a day has passed after it has a consensus before archiving.

Tallstar (Leader) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Tallstar.leader.png Need to remove the back < paw's white, according to official artwork. 23:11, 10/18/2019


 * Deputy has master pattern, and that only has 3 white paws. -- 23:13, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * Like I said on the approval page. Deputy is the master pattern yes, but you cannot see the other paw. Plus the rogue image above yours has all four paws. Also the leader image has all white paws 23:16, 10/18/2019
 * changed it to say correct one 23:27, 10/18/2019
 * Changing vote. Yeah, I'd accidentally forgot to mention that one leg should have stayed black per his official artwork. -- 23:31, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
 * I think this nomination is actually incorrect. The amount of black that he has on his paws vary depending on what artwork you're looking at. Cats of the Clans, The Ultimate Guide, and Tallstar's Revenge depicts him with four black paws. Three in the last screenshot, since you can't see his other paw from that vantage point... but a quick glance at the rest of the graphic novel does appear to show Tallstar with four black paws. So, if anything, we should be honoring the more frequent mentions over what's being written in the books. We do often go with what's more frequently mentioned, so given that this was nominated and redone to match his drawn visuals, we should also be doing that here. ​
 * we added his white tail tip despite it not being in the official art. Why then not also give him white paws? 21:30, October 21, 2019 (UTC)
 * i just think it's a little silly to completely gloss over his official book description and just immediately say "oh the official artwork is what we will match". Why then, don't we do this for every cat that's been depicted with official artwork? Like Firestar etc 22:19, 10/21/2019
 * perhaps this would be better off on the PC discussions page instead of a tweak nom, until a decision is reached? personally, I don’t have much of an opinion of what we should be following here, seeing as the cites for his paws also come form TR.
 * Winter, it's not silly. =/ We decided to match his pictures, therefore we cannot and should not just disregard parts of it. A discussion or not, that is what the nomination was for. We can't just decide afterwards to only include what we want. Either match it all or not, plain and simple. Re: Egg's comment: that probably shouldn't have been added either, since that again contradicts the artwork we voted to match. Also, Max, this should be a PCA discussion since it has to do with the chararts. Perhaps on the talk page, sure, but it definitely belongs within this project.​
 * I understand that. I know he has pictures. Weren't the field guides at one point completely ruled as "non-canon"? 21:49, 10/23/2019
 * No, they never were non-canon. We never enforced matching the artwork. This set in particular, along with Tawnypelt, were nominated to match consistent artwork over various pieces of media. That is what we agreed up, to match that. Those images were created by Wayne and whichever other artists were involved and published as official Warriors content. Therefore, it is not non-canon and we should be using them in cases where things are consistent. Firestar's isn't consistent, and vary depending on what you're looking at. ​
 * is anything happening on this? we really should work out what to do and not let this and other's artwork just sit up and take space on both the tweak page and the reservation table 13:18, 10/28/2019

Flaxfoot (Set) ~ Redo Nomination
File:Flaxfoot.kit.png File:Flaxfoot.apprentice.png Artist's choice. I own both. 22:52, October 26, 2019 (UTC)


 * -- 22:55, October 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * 02:13, October 27, 2019 (UTC)
 * Normally this would be an OA redo... but the master pattern isn't Thunder's to redo. It belongs to Queen. The apprentice image was matched to the original kit, and it wouldn't be fair to Queen to allow Thunder to redo the set when it wasn't his to begin with. This is a concern that needs to be addressed, and it would be breaking the rules if we allowed this to pass... and would also set a suggestive precedent that I'm not sure I want people following. ​
 * ^ plus there is nothing wrong with queens pattern 20:19, 10/27/2019
 * arguably you could change the nomination so that the pattern better matches Queen’s original design more? In the old kit it does appear the stripes are all over the body, not just the face and legs?
 * I agree with Max. Switching the nomination sounds like a good idea. -- 20:45, October 27, 2019 (UTC)
 * I concur
 * arguably you could change the nomination so that the pattern better matches Queen’s original design more? In the old kit it does appear the stripes are all over the body, not just the face and legs?
 * I agree with Max. Switching the nomination sounds like a good idea. -- 20:45, October 27, 2019 (UTC)
 * I concur

Flipclaw (Set) ~ Redo Nomination
File:Flipclaw.kit.png File:Flipclaw.apprentice.png Artist's choice. Vec owns both and wants them. 22:52, October 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * -- 22:55, October 26, 2019 (UTC)
 * 02:13, October 27, 2019 (UTC)
 * 02:13, October 27, 2019 (UTC)

Stripes (Ro) - Redo Nomination
File:Stripes.rogue.png there are very few here who are going to remember the issue w/ this rogue image, barring myself and David... but when this was redone with the current rogue blanks, the conditions were to keep the old pattern. It didn't. I'd actually come up with something to match the old rogue from our ancient blanks, and I'd like to finally get this back to what it was supposed to be all those years ago. ​
 * -- 18:48, October 27, 2019 (UTC)

Splash (KP) - Redo Nomination
loner, kittypet. Should match the image we have of him from the graphic novel, as per previous images (such as Mitzi and Fritz). Redo is best for these due to the fact it would be a complete overhaul of the pattern itself. ​​
 * -- 02:28, October 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * Images for future reference! 03:57, October 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * May I have these? 18:01, October 28, 2019 (UTC)
 * May I have these? 18:01, October 28, 2019 (UTC)

=Approved Tweaks= Once an image is under this heading, it may be reserved on the project main page and crossed out with a and a. The image may only be removed from this list when it is approved and archived.

All project leads are to keep track of the number of images on this list, including those that are crossed out. Should the number rise above 50, nominations will close and remain closed until the number of images on the list is down to 40.

When placing images onto this list, please also add if a user has reserved said image. Reservations will last for one week after the nomination is archived and placed into the correct archive, unless there are other matters that interfere with a user not being able to complete said images by the time their reservation expires (such as a comment that would usually require an additional nomination, like adding stripes or changing a pattern completely).

A tweaked image on this list can be redone with permission from a project lead. If a project lead wishes to redo an image on this list (such as a solid that is not part of a set), they must contact another lead for permission. If it is an overhaul of a set, another nomination must be posted into the correct section, and the voting process will begin again.

Tweaks

 * File:Barley.kit.png - flip tail patch to match this and match facial and foreleg patch placement
 * File:Rainfur (TC).star.png - artist tweaks (making stripes/spots softer to match set) (Reserved to Paper Finches until 28 October)
 * File:Bubbling Stream.warrior.alt.png - match base to manga (Reserved to Star until 1 Nov)
 * File:Berryheart.kit.png - recede white on arms to match set
 * File:Ambermoon.kit.png - minor fixes (Reserved to Spooky until 1 Nov)
 * File:Yew_Tail.es.png - redo shading (Reserved to Bluestar until 1 Nov)
 * File:Lichenfur.elder.png - add nicked ears (Reserved to Eggheart until 1 Nov)

Redos

 * File:Morningflower.elder.png - artist's choice; master pattern set goes to Burnt
 * File:Morningflower.queen.png - artist's choice; master pattern set goes to Burnt (Reserved to Fox)
 * File:Morningflower.kit.png - artist's choice; master pattern set goes to Burnt (Reserved to Patch)
 * File:Morningflower.apprentice.png - artist's choice; master pattern set goes to Burnt
 * File:Robinwing (RC).star.png - placement issues on the face, patches too dark compared to other images
 * File:Poppyfrost.kit.png - pattern redo
 * File:Tigerstar (TPB).kit.png - pattern redo for mackerel, to match with Hawk and Bramble sets (Reserved to Fox)
 * File:Tigerstar (TPB).df.png - pattern redo for mackerel, to match with Hawk and Bramble sets (Reserved to Fox)
 * File:Gorseclaw (TC).kit.png - pattern redo for mackerel, to match with Tiger, Hawk and Bramble sets (Reserved to Fox)
 * File:Gorseclaw (TC).star.png - pattern redo for mackerel, to match with Tiger, Hawk and Bramble sets (Reserved to Fox)
 * File:Hawkfrost.df.png - pattern redo for mackerel, to match with Tiger and Bramble sets
 * File:Tallstar.apprentice.png - match this and this
 * File:Tallstar.kittypet.png - match this and this
 * File:Tallstar.rogue.png - match this and this (Reserved to Fox)
 * File:Tallstar.deputy.png - match this and this
 * File:Tallstar.star.png - match this and this
 * File:Tawnypelt.apprentice.png - match official art
 * File:Tawnypelt.deputy.png - match official art
 * File:Reedtail.apprentice.png - artist redo (Reserved to Skt)
 * File:Apple Blossom.hunter.png - match original pattern. (Reserved to Jayce until Oct 30)