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Morningflower-For Approval



 * My second, tortie, and my first elder. The elder blanks show up black for me, can someone fix that? I fixed up this one, though. Tell me what you think of it. -- Mlns tlk • C 14:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but i think you might need a little more ginger fur. She looks too dark, and I think it's because of the black. But, otherwise, it's good. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  19:55, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, the separation between the white and the black on the neck looks unnatural. Play around with the shape a bit more, or extend the white up into the face and make those common white-face markings. Other than that, and what Mumble just said, this is really good. -- Dawnfeather 02:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploded and changed the neck black to white and ginger connection. Better? --Mallinois Herding Talk 21:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It is better. I think the ear pink, although it is the right colour is slightly too big for her ear, especially as the fur is black. Sandy Talk! 18:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, though it may take a while to show up. --Mallinois Herding Talk 19:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that you should extend the white on the neck up onto the face, the way the is common amoung cats. also, the ginger patch on the front shoulder is an awkard shape. -- Dawnfeather 01:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The white is extended to her face, but it may take a while to show up... --Mallinois Herding Talk 14:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Instead of making an upward arch with the white into the face area, level with the eye, drop in down a bit and make it arch the other way. Also, extend the white that is on the face in a tendril up the nose. -- Dawnfeather 23:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree with Dawnfeather. Just make those changes and it should be ready, if it looks good. -- Bramble My Realm 16:12, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, but I like the old version better... --Mallinois Herding Talk 11:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I love this Mal! Sandy Talk! 11:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a gray lne on the muzzle. -- Dawnfeather 07:05, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't see a grey line... just shading. Are there any more comments otherwise this should be approved Sandy Talk! 13:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There's a chunk out of her head right before her ear that's bothering me. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 22:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

There is also a little black dot inside the muzzle. -- Dawnfeather 06:13, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I like this Mal. Sorry for not commenting before. The thing is, the head / upper body seems a little busy compared to the rest? Add another patch or two to the back.-- Darkhallows Lair 08:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Loudbelly- for approval


I hope this is better than my Whitewing...Sandwich 989 04:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

He looks fine, but the outline is blurred in a few places, and he could use some highlights. To prevent this (in GIMP, at least) paste TWO images down on two layers, hit 'ctrl' + 'L' to bring up the layers menu, and click on the top layer. Then click on the wand tool and bring it to the white areas and click on delete. Then you have just the lines. Click on the bottom layer, and color that in... If that makes sense xD.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll fix the outlines. But what you said, does it mean I have to start all over? Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i have the whole shading thing down, but the last thing i need to know is how to highlight.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

In the program I use (Photoshop), there's a dodge tool, and it looks like a small microphone. Just run that along the edge of the shading and it should produce a nice-looking highlight. -- Bramble My Realm 16:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

What program are you using? Oh, and I just noticed there's no head shading.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh dang i forgot head shading! I'll do it right away.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok heres my new one, im not sure if that light line is a highlight, but oh well. And Im not a huge fan of my head shading is ok, but you guys are the experts...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlight needs to be blurred some more, and the outline is still blurred in some places, most notably the back of the foreleg and the forehead. Also shrink the ear pink a little and make it a darker pink. Other than that, this is very good and I like the color you chose for his pelt. -- Bramble My Realm 15:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok heres the new one.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 20:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlights still nede to be blended into teh pelt colour a little more and the ear pink needs to be slightly smaller and blended also. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I knew something was wrong with the ear...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 14:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I lost the color I was using for the fur D:, but I blended in the highlight and rfixed the ear...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 16:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

This is nice. I think you need to thicken some of the shading though :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Increase the shading a little, and then fix that blurriness at the right corner of his eye, then I think he'll be ready. This is really good, Sandwich. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I (for sure) undid the blurriness around the eye. And (I think) intensified the shading.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 17:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Any further comments before approval in 24 hours? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(: Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  20:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Apprentice? (Maybe)

 * Here?


 * <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 00:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This seems fine. But don't color the herbs (?). -- Darkhallows Lair 02:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be a good idea to color the herbs. Unless we don't mind the herbs in all the medicine cats' mouths to possibly different colors. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 03:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we should colour the herbs in the blanks. The outline of the herbs should be a bit thicker, and should extend a bit further up as if they were in the mouth, not under the chine! A bit of chin has to be consealed by the hearbs to do this. Just put it were you think that the mouth should be, only a few pixels higher. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No, don't colour the herbs; there are so mnay different types of leaves they could be carrying that we may as well leave it up to whoever colours the cat to decide what colour green they should be - it will add to the individuality of each pixel. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 11:17, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This blank can't be accepted, because you edited the apprentice blanks to make these. I'l either decline this, or you can start over from scratch. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 22:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

GB, we have permission to edit the blanks, and on the forum, 'Do we really need Medicine Cat Apprentice Blanks' we have basically decidec to edit the blanks to put herbs into their mouths and make them Med cats. That's what i did below. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 22:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No, we don't. Please see "A Little Misunderstanding...". <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

??? What did I miss? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

K, looks like we can use these after all. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 02:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

So, Misty, I think if you just thicken the leaves' outline and take out the color, it would look pretty good. -- Bramble My Realm 15:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, but It will take awhile, I'm not using the same computer. I think GB knows I have more than one. ;) <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

This? Oh, the last one didn't upload. -.- <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 02:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Take out the color, and make them a little less round, more like your original leaves. But I like the thickened lineart. -- Bramble My Realm 03:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Opps! I 4got 'bout the color, and I can't make them the way the first one is like. I 4got. -.- <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 22:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Just take the colour out and make the leaves more pointed; they don't have to be identical to your first ones just less rounded. Also, you nede to do the other blank so that it is the same as the three. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

ie. you need to do the longhaired tom Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Ugg. The tom got deleted. -_- But will do Sandy! <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 21:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Oakpaw-For Approval


Here's Oakpaw of SkyClan. He's my first tabby. I decided to go with the original tabby stripes.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 18:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

He looks good, but it doesn't look like you shaded him much if at all. Also he needs more tabby stripes. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 18:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Increased shading and markings.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 20:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that the tabby markings are very realistic. They are very small. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I tried making them longer, but it didn't look right to me. It looked like he had lighting all over his body.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 16:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Besides the tabby markings, it looks like he could use some more shading along his back, hind legs, front legs, and maybe a bit more along the belly. Skyfeather <font color="lightblue" style="background:white;"> '95 00:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 16:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

He still needs more shading; make it bigger and slightly darker. Also, the marking - they do need to be bigger - look at some of the approved tabby apprentices for reference Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

My computer would turn on for the last two days ( don't know why ), and sorry I haven't been able to edit this.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 23:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Bumblekit for Approval
I'm finally back! Well I see Bumblekit was taken down like I expected. So here we have Bumblekit up again. No highlights this round (i despise them on kits)just different sets of shading. I looked at some of the other kits for reference.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 22:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back, Bumblekit! I'd say he looks pretty good, but your shading confuses me. Where is the light source coming from? --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading style looks fine to me as it's what is used on a lot of approved kits. I just think it needs to be darker and slightly bigger on the forelegs. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well here we are. Finally got me some more free time. I made the shading darker and long on the legs.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Now you need to blend it into the pelt a lot more to get a natural transition and perhaps make it smaller on the neck Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Updated-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 23:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, he sort of looks like he's wearing a hood with earholes because the shading's a bit large. :) Maybe decrease the shading a little around his head, and on his right side the shading under his chin looks a bit large. Also shade his ears a little. He looks cute otherwise. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading on (our) right side seems short. Bring it out so it fill that entire area behind the leg. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (medicine cat-for approval

 * [[File:Cinderpelt (medicine cat).PNG]]


 * If there is anything wrong, please tell me. I want this picture to be perfect. My first medicine cat with the new blanks. In my opinion, Cinderpelt wouldn't look all that great if she was in a thin, slender looking medicine cat blank. The warrior blank suits her because she was supposed to be one... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 11:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

She's too dark, as she is only specified as a gray she cat with blue eyes, and fluffy i think too. She is also a tabby. I agree that she has to be perfect, as I am also a great fan of her! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In the allegiances, it says: Cinderpelt-dark gray she-cat. So she is dark gray, and she's not a tabby, but many times in the books, she has been mentioned with enormous blue-colored eyes. Anything else? (And can someone cite tabby markings if she has any?) Plus, she's long-haired, so that takes care of the fluffy. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 13:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

On her actual page, it says that she is a gray tabby. I still don't think she should be so dark though. The ear colour is too bright. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I think she should be a bit lighter and should have tabby stripes as she is supposed to look like Cinderheart who is the reincarnation of her and is a tabby. As for the rest; more blending of the shading to make the colour transitions smoother. Also make the ear pink smaller  Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In most of the allegiances she has been in, she's dark gray. If she has tabby markings, someone please provide a direct citation from the books, page number and volume. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk

Wasn't she identical to Cinderheart?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Apologies Mal; I looked for a few references last night and the only descriptions of her within the books were of a grey she-cat. She is said to ahve 'smoky grey fur' on page 65 of the paperback edition of Forest of Secrets. You need to make her a little lighter as she looks almost black here and the shading needs blending. No tabby stripes; that should be removed from her page Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, it's fine. I lightend her and changed the ear pink. It may take a while to show up, though. I tried to keep her dark, but not too dark like my last one. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 14:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Her colour is better but the ear pink needs to be smaller still as it is kind of almost coming out of her ear at the moment. Also, the shading needs to be blended more still. Try just pulling it towards the middle of the image a bit more with the blur tool. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, but It may be a while before it shows. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 15:08, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

She looks pretty good! I like how you did her twisted leg! If you read what my comment originally said, don't worry about lightening her any more. Things at the top of my screen are darker than when they're on the bottom. She looks fine at the bottom of the screen. :) Okay, I'm done rambling. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:26, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that she still needs to be lighter, but it may just be that it's not showing up yet. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I think this looks great, but it might hep to make it a little lighter. Cause on my computer it looks like almost black.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 18:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you see her as dark, try standing up if you can't see some stuff. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Navy">Timberwolves 22:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

To me her colour looks fine (but I've learned not to trust my computer...). She needs a bit more shading on her near foreleg and neck though Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 06:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed on points above, and also decrease her ear pink a little bit, as it's overlapping the ear a little. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Echosong - For Approval
This is my second character art, and I'm rather pleased with it. I know that some of the outlines are rather blurry, but is there anything else?

The ear pink needs blending and it needs to be neatened up as some of the areas are very blurry, even inside the lineart Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC) [edited 12th: didn't mean to write in caps]

What Sandy said, and please sign with four ~s.<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 18:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I think she needs a bit more shading, and there is a lot of blurring outside the line art which needs to be fixed. The eye colour is hard to see. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 11:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! I am in love with those tabby markings! They're so soft. *tries to reach and touch one* The only problem I see is that there is coloring/shading outside the lineart. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:18, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Who made it? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Mistyfur, I think it's Smokeberry's Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy! Yeah, there's to much color out of the lines. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 17:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a lot of smudging outside of the line art. You need to fix that.Minnowclaw 23:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Blend the ear pink and maybe darken it a shade. ;]--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, also try adding some dimension to the nerbs by using different shades of green and take a look at the hing leg tabby markings as a couple of them are very dark Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Kinkfur - For Approval


I wanted a challenge and she certainly was more difficult that your average cat! I think she turned out quite nice though, comments? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:54, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I like your idea with the back and tail, it's just in the tail, some are chunks taken out of the tail, and they don't look right. I think that you should also edit the ones on the chest to make them more pointy. The tabby markings need to be bigger and thicker, and she needs darker and bigger shading on the chest and some other areas. Wow, that must have been hard to do! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:32, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the tail and the chest lineart, thickened the markings by one pixel and increased the shading. It wasn't that hard, just more time consuming than usual Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

This is great! When you first said you wanted to do Kinkfur, I remember thinking, "How in StarClan does she plan to do her?" You've done a wonderful job at pulling off the kinky-ness. I give you a round of applause! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

There is still a chunk out of the top of the tail. Don't forget about the tabby markings and shading *see above for my opinion on those.* --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Goldencloud :) Dawnfeather - I'll sort the end of the tail but I did thicken the tabby markings and add more shading Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 17:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * REUPLOADED I sorted the tail but I really am not sure what exactly you want me to do with the markings and shading Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks awesome! But the tabby markings look very...well, sharp. Maybe try blurring them a bit...?--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 00:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Will do. I'm in the process of making them thicker for Dawn but I was almost finished and my cp erased my edit and I can't get them back so I need to start again from the saved version. It'll be done soon Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 07:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * REUPLOADED I made all the tabby markings thicker again, added more shading and blurred the markings as little as was possible in order to retain clarity. Any more comments for improvement? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

As said before, I love the way you did the fur. I think maybe you could lighten the shading, as it's now very dark. The tabby markings look pretty good, but some more need to be added on the spots there aren't any, like the middle of the hind leg curve and a bit on the torso. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED taking all comments into account Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Anything else?? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yellowfang- for approval
I didn't flatten her face because it looked RIDICULUS when I tried. But here she is.-- Darkhallows Lair 21:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Her look red Dark Hollows. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 21:58, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

?? She looks red?...-- Darkhallows Lair 22:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

The eyes do. Also, the bottom part of the herbs are almost black! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:18, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I love the texture! She looks so pretty! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Opps, forgot to type 'eyes'. And, the herbs are really black. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:53, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Lightened eye and herbs.-- Darkhallows Lair 04:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Use the lighten tool on the top part of the herbs so it looks like the sun is hitting them, such as the shadows hit them on the bottom. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 15:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Done.-- Darkhallows Lair 20:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The three lighted parts sort of look like she's being hit with three spotlights. Could you darken them a tad and then blend them some more? Other than that she looks exactly how I pictured her to look. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Better?--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 08:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It still looks like what it did before... -_- <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 20:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Um no. It doesn't :/. Click on the image and see the past uploads.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Patchfoot - For Approval


I wish Patchfoot would've had a bigger role in Firestar's Quest, I think I could've grown to like him. I hope I did the patches okay, I didn't use a reference on him. I should try something other than warriors...I will after I get Brindleface posted. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT1 Un-squared patch on upper foreleg. haha now it looks like Scooby-Doo's leg. And blurred head patch. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT2 Blurred Scooby-Doo patch. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 00:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is really good! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

♠ Dawnfeather :D Thank you! I don't see what's so great about it, but if you see something I guess I'm glad! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 04:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * One of the patches is sort of... square. -- Darkhallows Lair 04:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

This is really good. The patch on the head needs neatening up a bit though as the edges are really smudgy. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

♠ Darkhallows Acknowledged. ♠ Sandy Thanks! I smudged the patches then went over them with the blur tool, I must have missed the head. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Mrrow? Anything else I need to work on? <span style="font-family:Slayer; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 01:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - That black patch on his shoulder....it looks less blurred than the other patches. Try blurring it just a teensy bit more. But this looks aweome! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

♠ Mosswisker I blurred the patch! Thanks for pointing that out. I guess when I rounded it out I forgot to re-blur it. :D <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 02:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello? Anyone there? Does this need more help? <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Extend the black patch on the head a little along the muzzle so it looks less squared. That's about it. Great job! -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Raindrop - For Approval
I did Raindrop. How does she look? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

She has no shading, to start with. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:56, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, she needs shading. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:21, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

She looks cute! I can see shading on her, but it's really light, I can only see it when it's at the top of my screen (I have a weirdo monitor: more contrast at top) Darken it a bit. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:16, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

She does have shading, and I can see it easily. But whatever, I'll make it darker. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 18:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 19:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I still can only see the shading from the top of my screen, and when I can see it it needs to be blended some more. Also, the raindrop marking, instead of having a black line around it, can you just make it a gray marking like part of the pelt? -- Bramble My Realm 19:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll blend the shading more, but I see it fine. I don't know if it's your computers or what, but it looks almost too dark for me. Also, the black is part of the marking, because it says the mark is gray and black. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

GB, has it ever occured to you that it might be your computer? If no one else can see the shading unless it's at the top of the screen, I hate to break it to you, but they're probably right! About the black and gray, put the black through it randomly instead of as an outline. Maybe put it slightly lower, in make the shape slightly more raindrop-ish... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree with what Dawnfeather said. The marking on the top of the head looks weird, almost like a straight line.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 13:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, there's no point arguing. I would suggest you make the shading a little bit darker but not too much and then take Bramble/Dawnfeather's advice on the head marking. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Leafpool - For Approval


Here is my Leafpool. What do you think? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 22:39, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * near the middle of the chest, the shading splits into a v-shape. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Navy">Timberwolves 22:42, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Wait- are her eyes yellow? I thought they were amber? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:52, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Yellow and amber are very similar. Sorry Mallinois, but I don't see what you mean. Can you explain in more detail? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I think I see what Mal is saying (if I'm wrong then sorry...). From where the muzzle is there is a line of white stretching down to the chest spliting the shading in a kind of 'V' shape. Also, where the foreleg shading connects to the chest shading there is astrange shape made by the shading that needs smoothing out. You know I love this image Dawn :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, i still don't understand. One of those things that are just half impossible to explain! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't really know how to explain Mallinois' thing properly as I'm not sure I even understood it properly myself. What I was saying is that above the near foreleg where you have the shading, this is connected in a thin line to the chest shading leaving a triangular gap - you need to round this off and make the gap less triangular as it looks strange. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading seems alright to me, but she looks more ginger than brown.-- Darkhallows Lair 20:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

She actually sort of does.. make the pelt a bit more brownish and then add some tabby markings on her foreleg to balance it out a bit. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 08:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading looks better now she's a darker colour. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 11:41, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Seeing as there have been no more comments for two days I'm gonna give 24 hours for comments before approval Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Mousefur-for approval
I have NO clue how or why this was deleted. My internet was down and I couldn't get on to fix it. Can I please keep working on it?! Minnowclaw 23:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It was probably deleted because it hadn't been worked on in a certain amount of time. :) I think she looks good, except she needs more shading. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 00:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Can I still work on it? If so, where should I put more shading?Minnowclaw 02:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Of course you can still work on her - she was taken down due to lack of work but nobody knew it was because you couldn't get onto the computer. If that ever happens feel free to resubmit as you have done here. As for the image itself: More shading could be put on the head and it all needs to be a bit bigger if you ask me. Blend all your shading and perhaps change the ear colour as it's kind of purplish. You could also try a highlight on the back to add dimension by using the lighten tool. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Which one do you think is better? Minnowclaw 22:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * The first one looks better because the second one with the highlight doesn't match the fur color at all. If that's a highlight anyway. It looks sort of brownish-pinkish.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 23:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

K anything else?Minnowclaw 23:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

She's better, but the ear pink is too light and it stands out. I suggest using this color or something near: Also add shading on the foreleg and hind leg curve. She's very good otherwise. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Does that pink look better? Minnowclaw 21:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

PLEASE, give me all the notes on it you can. I know it's not perfect!Minnowclaw 14:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The ear is better but some of the shading is rather smudgy. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

What parts are sumdgy?Minnowclaw 16:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The tail and back. It's not so much smudgy as... unsmooth... if that makes sense Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Silverstream-for Approval
His first true love, Silverstream. Tell me what you think of her. Pixlr started acting funny near the end with her shading and blending so I'll get around to fixing that later cause its bugging the crap out of me.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 03:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Highlights sorta make this one all smudgey --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Timberwolves inc. 00:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Her pelt sorta looks like a spider web. :) I think your tabby marks are a little too curved; unfurl them and straighten them out into the main pelt area some more. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The dot underneath her eye makes her look kind of tired. Other than that, I think this is beautiful. Sparrowsong 20:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Kestrelwing - for approval
What do you think of him? Did I spell his name correctly?Minnowclaw 01:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I actually really like this effect. My only suggestion would be to put in a pupil into the eye! :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The tabby markings need to be wavy like Echosong's, smooth y's like Leafpool, or jagged y's like Brownpaw's. Triangle tabby is, mentioned by Kitsufox, cartoony, and I use Kitsu's judgement on tabby. --

I darkened the pelt a bit and tried new markings.Minnowclaw 14:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like his colour and these markings are along the right lines but they are very squiggly; perhaps straighten them a little and make sure they are everywhere. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about not putting a new one up soon. I couldn't get it just right, but now I'm happy with the work.Minnowclaw 14:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Ooops! I forgot the ear, L.O.L!Minnowclaw 14:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks like he has a miniature sun on his flank... Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The markings look a bit...fat. Try blending them more.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 18:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Runningwind- For Approval
I'm not sure about the stripes, I am so sick of doing the other ones though... --<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 09:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about the stripes either. I think that the idea could work though. Try and use this effect to do cats that have marbled tabby markings. It could work. Fiddle around a bit more. Maybe make them curved and wavy randomly, so with and some without forks. Could work... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Triangle tabby shouldn't be accepted like this. Use your regular tabby markings, DH. Plus, If you want color info, Runningwind is a brown tabby, look in Rising Storm when he dies. --

I love these kind of markings, personally. Real cats have the markings, I think, from some cat pics I've looked through. Anyway, maybe darken him because he looks more golden than brown.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

He definitely needs to be more brown and less yellow in my opinion. Also, there is a dark stripe down his back not disimilar to Greystripe's...I don't remember him having this Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, the smooth y's are the most accurate, like the one's on Leafpool. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 22:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Depends on the cat, actually. Does he look better now?--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I reckon he could be a bit browner. I i like the stripes. :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 08:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * He's supposed to be light brown. I don't wanna make him too dark...--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 08:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the colour better now but the ear pink needs a bit more blending. Also, the markings on the top of his head look a little strange... Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I changed it.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 20:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Little Mew - For Approval


My first kit. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I like it. But make the hay colored fur part more like it is in the Graystripe manga one. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 20:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I haven't read the Graystripe manga series since it first came out, so i have no idea what you mean... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 08:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In the comic he has yellow 'hair'--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 09:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Can someone show me a pic from the book? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Whitestorm - For approval
After my recent... tupidness with Poppydawn, I have now posted Whitestorm. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 11:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The only problem I see is that he has amber eyes. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  17:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks good, but maybe extend the ear pink a little to the left.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 18:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Leader blanks - For approval
(M) - Alright! I've drawn cats for awhile now, so I thought I'd put it to good use!


 * Double lineart? Cheak.


 * About the right size? Cheak.

All it needs is a transparent bckground. Could somebody do that for me please? I know how to do it, but I've had some troubles and I don't want to risk anything! Thanks! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)



OMG, ur so good! =] This are real good. Lets see what everyone else says- but wait, some pplz made leaders with the warrior blanks... <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 20:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've done the transparency for you and had no problems with pixlr... don't know what that was about. As for the images. I like the position you've chosen and overall they are very good. There are a few things though. Firstly their backs are quite bumpy... Secondly, their heads are quite small and could be a bit bigger. I also think the fur on the belly of the longhaired looks strange and needs to be a bit... neater (that sounds so stupid). We also nede to think about how easy they'll be to colour. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 20:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanies! I think the people who made leaders with warrior blanks understood that leader blanks would be made one day. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you mean that they coloured Bluestar in a warrior blank for example. If so then the reason for that is that we are eventually hoping to get images of all ranks every cat has ever upheld. They will all be added to a character's page together. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 20:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)