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Flowerpaw (SC) (App.) ~ For Approval
01:17 Tue Sep 6

The shading's seeking from the.... butt/hind leg/tail area, and can you unblur the shading overall to define the shading and light source a bit more?^^

Excuse me if I'm mistaken, but isn't she supposed to be silver? This looks relatively close to a darker gray. 03:27, 9/06/2016

Re-uploaded 00:32 Wed Sep 7

I think possibly get rid of some shading? It's really hard to make out the silver on multiple screens. Also, if possible, define your lightsource and possibly lighten the shading a tad. 00:38, 9/07/2016

The base still looks incredibly dark for a silver/silver-gray cat. 15:08 Thu Sep 8

Re-uploaded 23:17 Thu Sep 8

Could you define the light on the image?

Re-uploaded 23:20 Fri Sep 9

Define the light on the legs, tail, and face. 18:13, September 10, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 22:59 Sat Sep 10

I'm still having a hard time making out your lightsource. I firmly believe you should still erase some shading. 01:14, 9/11/2016

Sorry but I don't get it. I've already added more light and erased/lightened the shading a lot. Where should I erase the shading from? 01:45 Sun Sep 11

Hmm...well, first off, where is your lightsource coming from? If it's from where I presume, then possibly erase shading on <== side of the face, add shading on ==> side of the face, erase some shading on <== side of front chest, and <== side of all legs; add a tiny bit more shading on the ==> sides of all the legs, as there wouldn't be a lot of light shining there, and possibly some on the tail, too? I also see quite a bit of leaking shading around the image. Sorry if this is a lot ^^; 02:33, 9/11/2016

Re-uploaded Thanks for explaining, Winter. I hope it's better now. 17:10 Sun Sep 11

Pretty kitty. The shading is leaking slightly on the back and belly, and perhaps define the light on the tip of the tail.

Muchos better! :D Maybe possibly add a tad more light, or erase more shading, to the head and along the top between the ears? 19:45, 9/11/2016

Re-uploaded 22:05 Sun Sep 11

The belly is still leaking shading a little, and I'm not positive, but the head/top of head between the ears still looks the same to me? Forgive if I'm wrong. 22:49, 9/11/2016

Re-uploaded I did get rid of a bit of the head shading; if you compare it to the previous version you can see that it is lightened. <span style="">23:59 Sun Sep 11

I see it too, the shading is still there. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:23, September 12, 2016 (UTC

Define light on paws -- seems a bit too covered in shading imo

Re-uploaded Winter didn't tell me to get entirely rid of the shading, she just told me to lighten it a bit, which I did. <span style="">23:58 Mon Sep 12

Where did I say just to lighten it? I don't see where I said that... <span style="">00:36, 9/13/2016

Maybe smooth out the shading on the shoulder and side? 11:33, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded You said "add a tad more light, or erase more shading, to the head and along the top between the ears?", which is what I did. That's what I meant by lightening it. <span style="">23:33 Wed Sep 14

Hmm...that's not how I meant to say it. Sorry! I still think you should get rid of a little more shading on the head. Between the ears and along the face. <span style="">12:49, 9/16/2016

if possible, can you erase that shading on the front of the shoulder/leg? it's making it look a little blotchy. 21:01, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">22:02 Sat Sep 17

Nice. :) Erase a little of the shading on the lighter part of the tail? Jayie  Unwritten words~ 00:04, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thank you :) <span style="">00:22 Sun Sep 18

Honeypaw (VS) (A) ~ For Approval
I screwed up on the splotches and eyes, I'll fix them when I can. Also, morale: don't close down your computer without closing your tabs, as you could lose important work...like this post. --

Neon, you're supposed to wait until the image you had first is archived before putting another one up. <span style="">11:53, 9/08/2016

It's fine, everyone is allowed one time. That being said, this should be "for approval", since you already posted at least one image before.

Smudge the earpink, smudge the shading and lighten it?  ~ Silver Cloud ~   14:51, September 8, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, in that case, could you smooth out the yellow splotches some? <span style="">15:07, 9/08/2016 15:07, September 8, 2016 (UTC)

Darken the stripes just a little bit? They are very hard to see. They aren't incredibly dark on the kit, but they are more visible than they are here if that makes any sense. <span style="">15:14 Thu Sep 8

needs a white pixel in each eye. 18:37, September 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re-ups I tried putting the lines on another layer so I could attack the splotches with my blurring tool viciously make more blurs without ruining the stripes. --

Can you blur the shading more? <span style="">06:42 Fri Sep 2016

Just curious as to know why there's tabby fur in her ear? <span style="">22:28, 9/09/2016

Because... | does? Reupload --

Smooth out the shading you have, and add some to the front leg closest to us and the tail. 18:11, September 10, 2016 (UTC)

Add/define tail shading. --  22:58, September 10, 2016 (UTC)

The ear pink seems really neon so maybe darken it a little? — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 01:58, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re-upload Me: "I'll try to watch some of ZSlyzer's Spirit of Justice Playthrough!" >27 20-30 minute episodes in 4 days Me: "crap I have loads of time-wasting to do" And that, my friends, was the story of why I wasn't working. --

The shading still needs to be smoothed out quite a bit more, imo, as well as the yellow splotches. They all seem too defined still. <span style="">16:33, 9/11/2016

Re-upload When I accidentally turned up the shading to 100.0 I panicked and turned it down and I found 50.0 looks really good compared to 35.0. So yeah that's the shading right now BACK TO BINGE WATCHING SOJ -- and if someone knows how to code the timestamps that'd be great because I have no idea of how to code size and font

For lack of better words, the shading seems really dense/thick, so could you maybe make it blend more in a gradient with the image?

Re-uploaded Finished watching Spirit of Justice's case 2, decided to take a grace period so I work on other things also I feel very sorry for my lovable spineless cinnamon roll, apollo at the end of the case --

(apollo needs a break lmao) anyway can you define the tail shading? 14:00, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

Re-upload Yes poor Apollo. I love the music that plays during that scene though I need to find it --

Could you blend the shading some more?  <span style="">08:29 Fri Sep 16 

Re-ups Nothing much to say except I'm really sleepy. Neon's discipline period of no watching SoJ ends tomorrow, so at least I can watch Rite to Turnabout (or whatever they called it my memory is very bad today cause sleep deprived I had to finish an essay about london 2012 only slept at 11:30 PM ((11:30 is a very big strain on Neon's poor body clock BTW))) when I wake up. report report the song was called troupe gramarye 2016 guys now I can listen to it to my heart's content --

Could you smooth out the shading a little on her main body and haunch? Nice image, by the way. 20:51, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe make the stripes a bit sharper to match the kit.

Re-upload Thanks, Ivy. Really proud on the tail. *kisses tail* fear the perfection of the bee kitten's tail. This time on "it really sucks to be a japanfornian lawyer/work for a japanfornian lawyer", I'm rethinking if Benjamin Franklin REALLY meant there were only two certain things in life. This third thing...is Maya getting accused of murder. --

Could you make the line of shading on the rump follow the lineart a bit more, if that makes sense? It seems to be leaking away from the lineart and more onto the rump. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:06, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

Juniperclaw (Ro) - For Approval
man its been forever — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 16:04, September 9, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading a tad. ~P  a   t   c   h    f   e   a   t   h   e   r~   20:34, September 9, 2016 (UTC)

The shading I used is pure black. Its the darkest, at 100% and blurred and all. Could I get some more comments on that? — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 04:02, September 10, 2016 (UTC)

define doesn't mean darken, it means make more visible. Which reminds me, I can't see a source with this and the shading kinda seems all over the place. Did you use a different image as a reference?

No, the light source comes from the left. It's similar to the rogue images I looked at for examples which was Tigerstar and someone else, can't remember them rn. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 01:56, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

I think maybe reduce the chest shading some and it's fine. 03:13, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

I think it might be my computer, but on the shoulder, it looks like the shading is a square? Like right by the chest. <span style="">16:32, 9/11/2016

No, I see it. I'll fix that. I'll most likely have it up Monday or Tuesday. I'm mobile rn. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 16:47, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Ups, removed the square and some of the chest shading. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe blur the shading by the front leg? It looks like it's a bit bold next to the rest of the shading, might just be me. ~P  a   t   c   h    f   e   a   t   h   e   r~   15:19, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 15:55, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Comments? — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 11:57, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Tiny speck of waste above the back. <span style="">21:55, 9/15/2016

Re-Upps, removed the tiny speck of waste — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:12, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 18:18, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

I still can't see a source with this. =/ It doesn't look like any one I've seen, and his facial shading makes it look like he's got a darker chin. Smooth out the shading a lot more too; it ends a bit abruptly in some places, such as the legs, haunch, and stomach areas. Also define the lighter area on the tail.

Define the shading depth and light on the legs, as well. <span style="">01:15, 9/18/2016

Roach (Ro) ~ For Approval
Must get this one approved ;) --  21:13, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

lighten him up some, he looks more grey right now. 21:16, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth and define shading? <span style="">21:17, 9/11/2016

Add more shading on head and have it some forward a bit more, and also define your light source.

Re-uploaded --  22:58, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

Waste in a ring around the image. <span style="">18:21, 9/12/2016

I can't see it...--  22:08, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

It's definitely there -- around most areas of the image.

If possible, could anyone give me a redline on where the waste is so I can pinpoint it? --  02:01, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, here you go. I made the backdrop white too, so the waste is easier to see. This should be pretty accurate -- used color-select to pick it up. Anyway, can you define the light source again? It seems a tad bit randomly placed in some spots. I can draw that up too for you if need be

Re-uploaded. Is this better? --  21:05, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Better, but here's the updated red-line with the stuff that's still there. Also, the image looks really gray -- could lighten the base to make him more silver? And I still can't make out the light source.

Re-uploaded.--  01:47, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

Almost,, but not quite. You also might've erased a little too much on the back of the head, since it appears to be leaking away from the lineart.

Re-uploaded --  23:22, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

You're literally so close to getting all of it -- just this left.

Re-uploaded --  00:47, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Could you darken the shading just a tad? <span style="">05:59 Fri Sep 2016

^Except for the two lines of shading between the shoulder/haunch and the belly, those are about the darkness you should probably aim for on the rest of the shading. Those two lines seem fairly blocky and look somewhat like blurry markings - I think that could be fixed by thinning them out and making them curve a little to the shape of the body, and perhaps making them reach a little less far up. Since I'm bad at explaining, I think this is a little closer to what you should be going for with that.  <span style="">08:27 Fri Sep 16 

Re-uploaded --  12:35, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs? Also, the tail seems to be leaking shading. <span style="">12:47, 9/17/2016

Re-uploaded --  16:11, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Could you try to contour the shading to be more realistic with the cat's body? Kinda just follow that redline Shinx gave you a bit more...

Erm. I don't understand how to do that....--  15:50, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

Lionpaw (VS) ~ CBA
It's been a long time, so I'm sorry as to how bad this is. 15:55, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Could you possibly darken the pale part on the underbelly a smidge? It looks a tad too white. <span style="">18:21, 9/12/2016

Just gonna nudge in here and rename this to File:Lionpaw (VS).apprentice.png for you.

Reups thanks Jayce :3 11:26, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

I feel like the shading is too dark and too unsaturated (I know it's like that on the kit but I feel as though the shading on that one is a bit too dark as well)  02:56, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

Reups 11:27, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Snakepaw (A) ~ CBA
21:42, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Pretty kitty! Could you define the shading on the head a tad? <span style="">22:00, 9/13/2016

reuploaded thank u 00:35, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

can I get some comments or smth please 00:14, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading a tad more, please. 03:09, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded 14:36, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Silt (Ro) ~ For Approval


Define the light on the legs farthest from us, and smooth out the shading? <span style="">21:59, 9/13/2016

Reuploaded For the light on the legs, I don't actually think there should be any as this is basically the shading placement from the apprentice tutorials lol. That and it's also used on Rain (TAQ)'s image so yeah

Mmm, true, but not all shading works on every image. Plus, with your lightsource, there would be light there. Also, there's a strange darker line on the back? <span style="">22:56, 9/13/2016

Reuploaded Hmm.... played with the shading a bit -- did it fix that darker line you saw? I couldn't see it on my screen but I was tweaking that area so idk if it's still there.

do you think you could thin out or lighten the shading around the haunch/chest area? it looks odd as is. 20:35, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this better?

It's a darker area of shading now, but it fixed it as much as I saw. Could you smooth the shading some more? <span style="">21:58, 9/15/2016

Reuploaded

Could you define chest light? Also, I'm fairly sure since your light source is coming from <== (I think? If I'm wrong feel free to ignore) there would be more shadow on the tail. <span style="">06:00 Fri Sep 2016

Reuploaded

Hmm...for lack of a better word, the shading looks pretty blotchy on the main flank/body. Do you think you could try and smooth it out some more? <span style="">12:49, 9/17/2016

It's not that blotchy. If anything, I think a little bit of smoothing would do, otherwise you'll start to lose the depth. The same could be said for the tail shading, which seems a bit hard-edged.

Reuploaded

Tree (Ki) ~ For Approval
All colors from the loner. Comments? 21:07, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

It's perfect! I don't think it needs any editing. :) Bluedragon64 (talk) 21:15, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

for the millionth time, don't comment unless it's critique. 21:16, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe define the shading on the back and around the neck, and then define the light on the tail? Ignore the neck part if it's just my screen.

Maybe add a little shading depth on the front legs and tail? Cute! 21:26, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks. 21:33, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs, tail, and head, and smooth out the shading on the chest/back area? <span style="">21:58, 9/15/2016

Reuploaded. 22:28, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Make the stripes a little bit darker?  ~ Silver Cloud ~   18:51, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the neck and face just a tiny bit? 20:58, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:13, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Strikestone (A) ~ For Approval
I think I can be proud of this one :D  <span style="">02:05 Wed Sep 14 

I'm sorry, but could I please have some comments on this?  <span style="">09:28 Sat Sep 17 

Could you add a little more shading on the paws/legs? <span style="">12:50, 9/17/2016

reuploaded  <span style="">07:58 Sun Sep 18 

Violetpaw (Ro) - For Approval
I'm so sleepy and super busy with work so here have a Violetpaw.

define shading a lil — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:12, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

The shading is fine, tbh. I think it needs a little more smudging/smoothing, though. Just a smidge. Beautiful, Skye. <span style="">21:59, 9/15/2016

Re-uploaded.

Birchpaw (SC) (App.) ~ For Approval
This was hard o-o 19:40, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

This looks amazing! Smooth out the shading everywhere, and define shading on the shoulder? <span style="">22:00, 9/15/2016

Nice. :) I can give you the file, if you want. The stripes look a little blurry. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 23:41, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Re-upsThanks!Fixed the shading until i get the files 19:07, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

I believe this and the kit shouldn't have stripes. The stripes were added because it was believed that beige is a shade of ginger; however, it is actually a pale brown, which doesn't get stripes unless the cat is said to have them. 19:18, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe smooth the shading that is wrapped around the front leg on the left side; seems a bit sharp. Pretty kitty

Bluebellkit (Star) ~ Withdrawn
(talk) 20:18, September 16, 2016 (UTC)Bluedragon64 (talk) 19:52, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

you have to reserve this. 20:23, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Ok i reserved it.Bluedragon64 (talk) 20:31, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Technically, you are supposed to reserve an image before you post it. <span style="">20:46, 9/16/2016

Maybe also wait patiently until your join request is approved, since things marked for eval. are meant for kits of the project

actually you're allowed to just add yourself into the table without having to join if you want, 20:51, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

The background needs to be transparent, and the shading could also be defined. It also appears some of the lineart is covered up. But yep, you don't have to join the project to make art, but since I see you've asked on the talk page to join, I will go and add you now. 21:08, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Add a little depth to the eyes - vary the colour so it's not all one shade. Check out the apprentice tutorials, for a little help! 21:37, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I didn't add eye depth cuz i colerd them using paint. But if U still wan't depth i'll do that. Bluedragon64 (talk) 19:19, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Ok thx.

The file is named incorrectly -- her name has two l's and also needs to be like File:Bluebellkit.star.png to name it with the star in it. I'm sure someone can rename it for you ;)

The lineart is completely gone. <span style="">14:58, 9/17/2016 sorry bout that snow dapple but i can't fix that i'm a beginner. Bluedragon64 (talk) 19:11, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

If you tell me what program you use I can help you add the lineart back. Lineart is required to be on all images so I'm sure you can learn :)

I aciddntly painted over the cats long check hairs so i tried to redo it and heres what i got. Can you plz fix it 4 me? Bluedragon64 (talk) 19:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

No, I can't fix it for you. This is your image. I can help you, but I can't do it for you. Lineart must be exactly like the blank, and painting it exactly might be a bit tricky. What program do you use?

I QUIT THIS EVALUATION I HAVE TO REDP THE PRJCT AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE! ;(Bluedragon64 (talk) 20:12, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

i'm sorry but i can't remake my charart it keeps on colring my background for some reason and the fact the my phtoshop has a lybary error may b the reason why so can you make an improved Kit verson of mine like snow what's her name did with seawing10's snakepaw by replacing it with a more advanced verson? thx you for copperarting but i have to give up sorry. :(. --Bluedragon64 (talk) 20:55, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Then you have to withdraw the charart. Instead of 'for evaluation', please put 'withdrawn'. Also, could you try to sign with ~ from now on? It's putting your user page into the approval page, and it makes it look cluttery. <span style="">01:18, 9/18/2016

Well are you uploading under jpg and changing the file name to png? If so, don't do that as jpg makes it automatically white; png leaves it transparent :)--  02:55, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

Ok i'm back in. I had to redio the kit it made me cry. but i realzied that i did several; things wrong. but i won't quit. a remade the image. Bluedragon64 (talk) 14:04, September 18, 2016 (UTC) --Bluedragon64 (talk) 14:04, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

The eyeball color is leaking to the forehead. Also, I see a few lines on the face; forgive me if I'm wrong, but are those supposed to be there? --  14:07, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

It looks as if the ==> ear might've been redrawn. Could you use the exact lineart please? <span style="">14:12, 9/18/2016

i was just fixing it cuz i accidently erased some of the pixels. Ok i'll starl over ;( --Bluedragon64 (talk) 14:23, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Bluedragon64 (talk)

You don't have to start over if you saved it as a .psd file. It saves all your layers. <span style="">14:36, 9/18/2016

Her eyes need to be green to match her description. Also, her nose looks a bit magenta-- maybe tone that down a wee bit

Brindlepaw (WC) (A) - For Approval
00:29, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think Brindelpaw Son of Breezpelt and nephew of Lionblaze and Jayfeather needs 2 B edited. I think it's perfect the way this charart is!Bluedragon64 (talk) 12:52, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Bluedragon, you have been warned countless times for posting comments that aren't critique. :/

Also, Ivy, this is very beautiful! Idk if it's just me or what, but it appears the shading from <== that ear is leaking onto her forehead a little? Also, could you define the shading on both paws closest to us, so both her left paws, front and back? And possibly smooth out the shading a little bit more on the haunch/hind end area leading down her back left leg? <span style="">12:54, 9/17/2016

Re-uploaded. Thanks! 13:41, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Lynxkit (Star) ~ For Approval
This is one of my best chararts o-o. Also, is it just me, or is this spoopy kitty reminding anyone else of Halloween? <span style="">01:18, 9/17/2016

Oh wow this is looks just like my cat named Spooky that I adopted last haloween.... Anyway, define the shading on the tail a touch? Really great kitty

What does Spooky look like? Anyways add just a touch more shading on the paw closest to us. Adowable pumpkin kitty. --

Could you define the shading on the main body as well, please?  <span style="">10:18 Sat Sep 17 

Re-uploaded *Yawns* This is about as much as I can define body shading, as the lightsource is shining nearly right on it. Also defined depth as well. <span style="">12:27, 9/17/2016

I feel like you should lighten the shading a little bit, that's just my opinion though.

I can't see the ear pink at all, and should there at least be some shading on the lower half of the main body? Because I really can't tell there's shading on --> half of the cat.

Re-uploaded Lightened shading a smidge, and added some more shading on the ==> half of the cat. But like I said before, my lightsource is shining nearly directly onto it, and I'd rather not add anymore shading there. Also, the earpink you can't see because it's all in shading. Tried to make it a little lighter. <span style="">14:13, 9/18/2016

Sparkpelt (W) - For Approval
The old reservation on the table doesn't have a date so I think I'm good to take this...? All the colors were pulled from her apprentice 06:16, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

I think it's purrfect the way it is but you might want to make her ears a little pinker unless thats too pink for this character. Bluedragon64 (talk) 12:50, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

I feel as if this is a little darker than the kit and apprentice images? Forgive if I'm wrong. Also, I think the stripes need to be a little thicker and smudged to match the other images. <span style="">12:58, 9/17/2016

the pale colour scattered throughout her body should be brightened considerably, and the stripes should be....oranger for lack of a better word, thicker, and squigglier like firestar's. (the stripes will be on multiply of the base pelt) 14:30, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded art iz hard 07:34, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

Swampkit (Star) - For Approval
<span style="">15:49 Sun Sep 18