Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Redtail (D)~ Redone
Needed to be redone as a long hair. Original artist is PockyStar. Comments? 04:22, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

It did not need to be redone. All we would have to do is change the tail. That was totally unnecessary. The images were completely fine, it just needed to be long-haired. Please just take the old one and make it long-haired instead of making a new one, same goes for the warrior. Posting a totally new one would mean an entire approval process, which we simply do not have time for. The old images were already approved and looked fine, it was just the tail. Having the images redone is far more time consuming. 04:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

It needs to be redone, and if you had an issue with it you should have brought it up on the forum. No one else disagreed. 04:32, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Where was it said that it needed to be redone...Ugh. Can you please give me a link to the forum where it was said that he needed to be redone? Anyways, take off the brown, as tortoiseshell cats cannot possibly have brown markings, and the smudging is really wonky. A cat's fur goes in one direction, and smudging creates a furry texture. The smudging shouldn't go out every which way. Move the ear pink up in his ear, darken/desturate it and darken the shading. Remove the mottled spots on his tail. 05:04, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and remove the random little white spots. That is also not possible on a cat and it just looks strange anyways. 05:05, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think ALL the white should be removed. It says on his page he's a DARK tortoiseshell, like Tawnypelt, not a tortoiseshell and white. And he does need to be redone. He needs to be dappled, given feathered ears (he still needs those BTW), made a DARK tortoiseshell plus he needs to be long haired. This is absolutely GORGEOUS though. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:48, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

RE-uploaded- Thats a realistic dark tortie. I dont care for it. 21:08, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

You need to get rid of the patterns on his tail, and his markings look like smudged orange stripes, they should be more like patches (but still smudged of course). 21:10, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Look at a reallt dark tortie and it does lok like stripes, and the tail is supposed to be dappled. 21:13, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

See my comment on his warrior image below v v --

Redid it again because i really didnt like the old way. 00:14, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the smudging smoother, again. ;3 Like the one below. 00:47, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Its really good! Make the earpink smoother and less blotchy. 16:27, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 16:52, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded. 19:23, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

It says in his description that he has feathered ears...shouldn't the ends of his ears be fuzzy? Blur the earpink a tad bit more. 20:08, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 01:11, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 17:36, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

The eye lineart is a little lighter, Great job :D 03:39, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome job! Just fix the comment above, and it should be good... 15:17, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great, just that the earpink doesn't look like an earpink...it's a bit light. 15:21, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 19:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks like it's blending into the red part of his fur on his neck. Can this be fixed?  Law liet  Ta lk 21:49, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add a patch to her front leg, it's kinda empty. 01:50, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

It looks really good! 15:16, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 00:32, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Redtail (W)~ Redone
Needed to be redone as a long hair. Original artist is Insanular. Comments? 04:22, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

He is a DARK tortie, get rid of ALL the white, and give him dapples, and see if you can fiugre out how to 'feather' his ears. other than that, very nice. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:37, July 7, 2011 (UTC).

Make the smudging smoother. Nice job. :] 15:14, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

RE-uploaded- 21:09, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, huge change. Maybe make his tail a bit more distinctively ginger, it doesn't stand out much in this case. Dark torties do have brighter patches: See from this one. You should've just kept the old design sans the white patches in my opinion. And someone needs to re-do the kit and apprentice art as well to match. Shellheart 21:18, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

^^Yea, Shellheart's righ 8\ Make the tail a brighter to make it stand out like the description says OH, and darken the ear pink A TAD --

Reuploaded. 00:15, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Perfect! Very nice, I love it. Shellheart 01:23, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion its ready, but we'll see for others' opinions. ;D 16:54, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 17:04, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 19:24, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit, make his tail a tad more ginger, change the colour of the red pixel in his eye, and blur where the black meets the red on the ear furthest from us.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 00:59, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 01:12, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Those ears look so strange. They look more tangled and broken than feathered. His other Charart had normal ears.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 01:17, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thats why theyre being tweaked. I got the lineart from tawnyspots, who also has tuffed ears. 01:27, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

The orange needs to be desaturated, a cat would never have such vibrant colours, it should be a soft, low-saturation, diluted shade of orange (aside from the tail, its colour is fine). And make the orange patches smaller but have more of them if you know what I mean. Maybe make the tufts a wee bit smaller. This is looking nice! :3 04:19, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 17:37, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Great work! darken the tail shading a bit. 02:29, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading a bit. 15:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 19:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The bottom tuft on the ear showing (vague...sigh) try making it more..pointy, it's kinda like a straight line right now. :3 Darken the shading. 01:50, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 00:33, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hollyleaf (W) - Redone
Comments? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 07:24, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Done. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:30, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

You were supposed to state the original artist and what needed tweaking, and you might want to check out the rules for posting again. Blur the shading a bit more. 16:56, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think there was an original artist for this one, it's just a whole new piece. You made her into a long-haired female in lieu of a short haired, right?

Ya but it should be reuploaded right over the old image so there is an older one that somebody made. 18:38, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh! I completely forgot about the original artist! *facepalm* I'll go post that on both of my pics. And I thought it WOULD have gone over the original image. I thought it was named the same thing..... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:00, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - The shading's now blurred as much as it possible can be. And I can't figure out the original artist on this one. D: But yes, she needed to be long haired (and blur the highlights were a bit blotchy on this one, but that wasn't listed on the page) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:12, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Lighten t he highlight on the tail so it matches with the body highlights. 15:42, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the front left (her left) leg 17:05, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Man, I'm horrible at critiquing black cats -_-...umm...define the light parts a little. 20:45, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Moonleaf, there IS shading on that leg, so I'm assuming you mean make it more visible? And by define, do you mean unblur Ivystripe? Cause I was told TWICE already to blur, so I don't think I should... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:34, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's fine. Define the shading on the chest a bit more, blur it, and it should be ready. 05:26, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, but shouldn't it be up as hollyleaf.warrior.png so it replaces the old image? The short-haired version is still on her page. Shellheart 16:10, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Shellheart is right. Just make the W in warrior lowercase. 17:59, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading. 01:11, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Change the image name. 02:32, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Done. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:08, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Bleh, its still not showing. I went to the file page, so, blur the earpink more. And, I'll delete the old file. 08:24, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, why is it doing that? also, Reuploaded ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:05, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Its doing that because there is excessive uploading of images onto the wiki by newer users who don't follow the rules. I'm still deleting a lot, but there's too many. If you can, put the delete tag on images so that they can be deleted. I think its showing now. Lighten the tail highlight a bit, and thats all, I think. :D 15:48, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Milkfur (WC) (D) - Redone
I'm proud of this too. 18:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Give her the dark gray ear-tips, and blur the highlights and shading a tad, other than that, good job. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading around the haunch and legs, and maybe make the earpink a tad more triangular. 19:10, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make him more of an off-white. 19:10, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Mossy was original artist. 19:13, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 19:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I had to fix the shading. Sorry. 19:37, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink just a little. 20:00, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:31, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 05:27, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 16:47, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make him a little more cream. 17:07, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I really think the color's fine. 17:09, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I lightened the shading a bit. 17:24, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add a highlight to the tail? It looks a bit 2D. The highlights on the body look wonderful! 17:46, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 17:52, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Could you make it a tad more cream colored? It looks like it's barely off-white as it is. 20:12, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think the colour is fine, lighten the shading and blur it more, though. 20:51, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Is this good? 21:15, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pale.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 01:15, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Also shape it a tad more into a triangle. 05:27, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 18:25, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the head highlight to match the other highlights. 01:43, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a little more with the shading. 02:27, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little blotchy; smooth it out a bit :3 21:42, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q) ~Tweaked
I just tweaked the shading and darkened the base color. Original artist was Darkmoon25. Comments? 15:36, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the transition from the shading to base a bit. :3 16:03, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Do that ^, and erase the pink streaks coming from the earpink 17:10, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is fine. It's just the style she made the earpink. 18:27, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit, overall it's great! -- 18:31, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Darken the shading, and define the tail shading. 18:37, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add light parts to the front leg/arm. 20:16, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and brighten the highlights, desaturate the eye colour a lot. 04:21, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make it look more white than pale gray. Wild   breath   14:06, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The shading makes me scream. Seriously, It's horrible. 20:45, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading. 00:48, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

And the front paw shading. 02:19, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, I've been quite busy so far this week ^^' I'll have it up by tonight! 20:04, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink, and the shading is blotchy. Great job! Mintstar  This time for Africa!  00:19, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm going to re-do this, the shading is just too crappy. I'll fix the earpink when I do that, because I thought fixing the shading was going to be a waste of time anyways xD But thanks anyway :D 02:49, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

The shading's not crappy! Did you upload the new version yet? 02:04, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Mistystar convinced me to pull through this xD Still have that little voice telling me to re-do this... Anyways, if anyone is willing to pitch in and help me blur this some, It'd be welcome :) xD 05:30, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hollyleaf (Ki) - Redone
Original artist was Icethroat. Needed to be done as a long haired cat. So? What do you think?  Law liet  Ta lk 02:26, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Despite the excess, assuming you'll fix that later, darken the nose nad define the ear-pink. 02:27, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Frostheart, the ear pink is directly from the other image. I cut the ears and pasted them on, because I didn't want to ruin them. I'll fix the excess and the nose.  Law liet  Ta lk 02:30, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the light and dark parts slightly, although, since I can't see it on any black cat, it may be fine. 03:07, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Okay, I think I got all of the gray area.  Law liet  Ta lk No I still see some. x3 I still see some near the bottom of her tail, the bottom of her feet, and along the edges of the fur on the right (our right) side. Also, blur the chest highlight and maybe add a highlight to her tail? 15:56, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, nope. Look, here's what I do. Make a new layer behind the image of the cat, and make it white. That will make the slip-ups stand out more.

Sorry, didn't mean for it to leak down. Shellheart 16:05, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight. 01:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, there's still some faint waste by her tail, feet, and left side. Her left, not yours. It's really faint, but it's there. 22:12, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

And define the tail highlight. 06:17, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I didn't have a tail highlight, so I added one. I still think I suck at chararts. And thanks again, Shellheart, for the redlines, they help a lot.  Law liet  Ta lk 20:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded for the heck of it. I discovered that if I tilt my laptop screen, I can see the gray that I missed. There was quite a bit.  Law liet  Ta lk 22:35, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

lol. When I delete gray parts, I just color the whole background, then use the eraser tool at 100% and erase it all. :P Darken the tail shading. 23:17, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better?  Law liet  Ta lk 23:35, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yup! It looks awesome! Maybe lighten the tail highlight a bit? Its still kind of hard to see, though it might just be the computer. 23:52, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Eh.  Law liet  Ta lk 00:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, all the gray is gone. It looks great! 01:10, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, no more gray! Is the nose supposed to be pink? 15:32, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Gray/black cats have gray noses. 17:01, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

No, a lot of gray cats have pink noses. I guess black cats are different, then. 02:15, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Crowfeather (W) - Tweaked
Original artist was Bramble I believe. Then Night shine and Sandy did tweeks on it. I just lightened it then toned down the highlights. Took me about five minutes. :) 17:56, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a little dark to me, but that might just be because of his pelt color. 19:23, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: It was pretty dark. I lightened it. 21:18, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ear pink looks too...hurr durr. R-R-R-R-R-Redden it and reshape it so it wouldnt be so smudged. --
 * Please use proper English. I cannot find hurr durr in my dictionary. And don't stutter, either. You might want to get that keyboard looked at. -_- 23:57, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:14, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink and blur the shading more. 01:22, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink color looks fine, but straighten out the base of it a tad =) 03:47, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

the highlights are a bit too light. Where's the light source? 06:08, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

There is no light source. There doesn't need to be one, and all I did was lighten the fur and eyes and darken the highlights. I think the shading's fine considering it got approved. I will fix the earpink and darken the highlights. 00:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading a lot. 00:43, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then darken the highlights. 08:06, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Eww... 15:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you should make the highlights bigger. Then it would be easier to blur and darken. 15:59, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

When I darkened/blurred them, they became smaller. I think they were better before. 16:57, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thats why I said they should be bigger... I guess its fine. :D 02:08, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Stoneteller (H) ~ Redone
I added patchy fur, darkened the eye color a tad, and whitened the muzzle a tiny bit more. The original artist was Nightshine, I believe. 18:08, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Remove the mud, since healers don't typically leave the cave. It was discussed here. 18:18, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

De-saturate the ear pink --

Also, it says he's a dark brown tabby...shouldn't the rest of his fur be a little darker? 20:01, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, darken it, remove the mud, and fix the earpink. 01:21, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

His chest looks yellow. 02:39, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should just re-do it. 06:02, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done. Meep. :S 15:28, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Its better...define and blur the shading, blur the stripes. The head looks a bit green. 15:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Give him a white muzzle (Poor Rainlegs xp ) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:56, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Geez, it must be a pain to work on this. xD Redden the earpink. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:13, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are just giant triangles. It looks weird. 00:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looks AMAZING! ^^ The eyes should be a bit more yellow/orange though, they look almost brown right now and they're supposed to be amber. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:19, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:24, July 13, 2011 (UTC)D

Darken the head stripes. 02:10, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 02:12, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Icewing (W) ~ Redone
Original artist: Bracken-; Redone: Lineart blurred, blotchy shading. The changes weren't showing, so I uploaded it as a new file. I'll delete it once it starts showing. 23:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Is there shading? I really can't see any... Good job!  Law liet  Ta lk 23:36, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, there is shading, and I've darkened it a lot. Its just really blurred, and white. Thanks! 23:45, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ugh....I can't see good without my glasses. Darken the shading on the chest. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 00:01, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lol...am I the only person who can see it? :P 00:28, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is really blotchy. 00:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

It is? I can't tell. I'll just blur it more. 00:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I blurred it as much as possible, and I don't think its blotcy anymore. 00:46, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Nuuuuu, 'tis still blotchy. :3. I looked at the picture's details, and I'm pretty sure this is the updated one. But I could be wrong. Anyways, make the earpink colour lighter. 01:45, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe darken the base coat a tad. It's REALLY light, even for a white cat. It looks almost pure white. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:10, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, look at her description. It says, "pure white she-cat with blue eyes". The more I darken it, the blotchier it gets. 07:31, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I remade the whole thing because it kept on getting blotchier and blotchier. Comments? 07:59, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Grr. I deleted the file, then re-uploaded it, but its still not showing. Oh well. The file is the one in the file page. xD 08:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink and blur it. 17:36, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit. 20:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Done, Re-Uploaded. 02:12, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger and blur it :3 02:28, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded but changes aren't showing. its on the file page. 16:10, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, fixed earpink. And the shading is blurred as much as possible. 17:21, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Mistystar (L) - Redone
Original artist is Mousetalon :3 Meh, I really hate this xP I'll probably darken the shading and ear pink later. 18:08, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

You did take the colors off of her kit image, right? xD Blur the haunch shading. 19:10, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The changes aren't showing :P 19:30, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Fill in the whole ear with earpink. Mintstar  This time for Africa!  20:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The whole ear doesn't always need to be filled. It's the artist's choice. But yeah, Nighty, I think you should darken the shading :3 21:37, July 11, 2011

All I can say is darken the shading and remove the spot above her ear. Also, it might just be me, but her eyes look a little unfocused. Her left eye looks like it's looking up, while the right is looking at you. 01:37, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh, changes aren't showing again x3 You'll know the changes are showing when there's no smudge above the ear :P 08:33, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should fill the whole ear with ear pink,but if you dont want to I think you should at least make it triangular and not an upside-down V shape.But thats just my opinion...do what you like.Dovey Newbie! 15:27, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yes filling the whole ear shouldnt be optional. The blanks designed to have the whole ear filled. 02:07, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the tail shading. 02:16, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

As Rainwhisper said, it's the artist's choice whether or not to fill in the entire ear. Also, I've seen plenty of approved leader chararts with the ear pink not filling the entire ear. 02:41, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes and im changing those right now. 02:46, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Did you darken the tail shading yet? :P 16:15, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (W) - Redone
The earpink needed to be reshaped and darkend, and the orginal artist was Sparrowsong. I cleared up some blurred lineart. Mintstar  This time for Africa!  21:16, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, the earpink is too pink, and I think there's some blurred lineart on the front leg. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 23:38, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- there's not much I can do with the blurred lineart without redoing the whole image. Mintstar  This time for Africa!  00:21, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Is it me, or the tail stripes darker than the rest of the stripes? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 19:04, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes touch the lineart, and I noticed that you used the spray paint can to do the stripes, but to keep that from happening, you should put the stripes on with a pencil and blur it at 100%. You could try smudging those circles into her pelt, but I dunno if it'll help :/ 00:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

I took the original image and just tweaked the earpink. I didn't make a whole new image. Anyways, it wasn't on the list to have a makeover, but with all the blurred lineart, it looks bad. Should I leave it as it is, or remake it? <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Probably remake it. Otherwise it would be hard to fix the blurred lineart. 15:54, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Fawnstep (MC) - Withdrawn
Original artist was Hiddensun. All I did was add white paws, but they aren't showing yet. 22:20, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Where does it say she has white paws? 22:58, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. xD Hmm, that's a good question. I just saw it on the list of images needed to be tweaked, but I never bothered to check to see if she had a cite for it. I guess I'll try and look for one, and if not, she can be taken down. 00:17, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

I can't find it x-x But I probably just missed it if there is one. So I guess I'll just withdraw this? 02:40, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hazelstar (L) - Tweaked
Added stripes. Orginal artist: Honeyfur Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 02:06, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 02:06, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink fill in the Whole ear --

Reuploaded ah, I'm finally getting the hang of smudging in photoshop :D. About time. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:21, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading a tad bit more, and blur it on the haunch :) 05:23, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, now smudge the earpink and maybe add shading inside to the inside of it, or atleast darken it --

Great work! Darken the earpink a bit more, and smudge it into the ear. 18:13, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hazeltail (W) - Redone
I don't like it. I'm waiting for the changes to show up... 02:31, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define shading, make earpink bigger (if this is the version that I'm sure is the one you did) 02:38, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, define shading, make the ear pink more triangle-ish, and darken the shading on the right paws --

The image is huge and awkwardly squished. Anyway, define the earpink, make it more triangular, smudge the patches(the edges are too thin ans smooth), and the shading is real blotchy on the front leg closest to us.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 06:09, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

It says she a PALE gray and white, ligten the gray a bit. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:23, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing a bit. 17:06, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Echosong (KP) - Redone
Original artist was Hiddensun. She needed to be long-haired. I took all of the colors from her warrior image, so comments? 02:46, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes get lost in the shading, so define them some. 02:47, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:52, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on the face, please. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 03:18, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the triangular-ment of the earpink :) 05:22, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

This outline is short haired. Silversong 16:25, July 13, 2011 (UTC)Silversong

Darken the stripes to match the MC version, define the earpink, and lighten the white on the face. 16:51, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Mapleshade (W) - Redone
The tail needed to be white. Orignal artist was Nightflower or Mossy. Hopefully, Pixlr didn't make the shading blotchy. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:52, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. However, can you lighten up the tail shading? It's making it look too gray. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 02:58, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- changes aren't showing. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  03:14, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

The front leg/arm shading needs fixed, the side closest to the back legs need to be dark and the front needs to be light, not a white part in the middle. 03:16, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, they are. Looks much better, Mintstarr. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 03:17, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this 'Mapleshade.warrior.png' so it over writers the current file, 'kay? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 03:33, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I shaded out the highlight. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  15:25, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, the original artist was Mossy, not me :3 03:40, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Since you just tweaked the image, it shouldn't really count as redone. xD 16:03, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Silvermask (D) ~ Tweaked
-- Shading needed to be blurred. Original artist is none other then Nightfall. Comments? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 03:25, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

I think it needs to be blurred a little more. (*cough*Light > L*cough* :P) Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 03:42, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. (In your dreams, perhaps. xD) <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 03:57, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

On the tail, I can't tell if they're supposed to be stripes, but it looks like leaked lineart to me. 04:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

It was leaked lineart. Sorry about that. =/ Fixed. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 04:13, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading more. 16:20, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hollowpaw (A) - Tweaked
Added the white belly. Original artist: Hawktalon Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 03:39, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur a bit more where the white meets the brown. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 03:57, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Nice! there's a strip of white right next to the arm/front leg, so make that match in color :) 04:06, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Blur the white part more. 16:32, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Mousefang (W) - Tweaked
Shading fail. Anyways, Here's Mousefang. I redid the shading, but I don't think I like the pattern. Might choose another pattern for this one. Anyways, comments? 05:18, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Oh! And I believe the original artist was Shaf Girl :) 05:20, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

All I can say is define the shading alittle and make the earpink fill in the ear correctly--

The eye is misshapen, blur shading on the chest, thicken shading on the haunch a tad, make the earpink proper, and I'm pretty sure you're supposed to shade/highlight the tail the other way.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 06:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Plus, the erpink looks a little missapen at the bottom, and the chest shading needs to go on the chin as well. The eye color is too neon. 14:02, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, and blur teh shading on the chest. 16:49, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred as much as I could, darkened eye, fixed eye, darkened earpink, lightened shading at some parts, fixed tail shading, added chin shading, fixed anglement of the earpink...and... yeah. xD   17:35, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Cora (R) ~ Tweaked


I tore the ear. Original Artist was Icethroat21. 13:16, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you only made it smaller, make it look like a tear. 14:03, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make the lineart a bit thicker. 16:23, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Unspecified Tabby Alternates
I know it was decided that unspecified tabbies would get chararts, but do they get alternates? 23:07, June 7, 2011 (UTC)Editing Warriors Wiki talk:Charart (section) - Warrior Cats Wiki - Erin Hunter, Night Whispers, Omen of the Stars

That is a good question. The unspecified tabbies would qualify to the cat's description until they are mentioned (if), But when they are mentioned we would make them a new charart, right? But would the charart already made be...? We wouldn't just...clear it from the page...right? 23:31, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know...what if the cat was confirmed to be a solid colored cat, but was mistakenly described as an unspecified colored tabby? 23:34, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

well I don't know maybe we could go by the colors the cat already had then add the most realistic ones? 16:44, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well what if the color was never mentioned? I guess we could go by the name, like say "Graystorm" was mentioned as a "tabby tom." Then I guess we could infer Graystorm would be gray. But if say "Bramblepelt" was mentioned as a "tom." I guess we would make him a solid colored cat, for no markings were mentioned? 17:18, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I also have another question for unspecified cats. What if they are mentioned as a "long-furred she-cat." Would they get an unspecified alternate? 17:45, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yes they should get alts, its no different from the acctual description, and as for the just long haired thing, it semms like they should get a default, but im not sure. 04:24, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

I personally don't think that cats like the one in the example should get chararts unless they were described with a pattern (like tabby, mottle, spotted, etc.). We'd basically mean giving all characters who weren't really described with a pelt color or anything like it chararts, and we've always been against that as far as I know. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:36, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree to that too. We should only give chararts to ones that were mentioned as a pattern, I assume. "A long furred she-cat" may not be qualified to get an alternate for it was just her gender and fur length mentioned. 16:14, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

For tabby and mottled alternates, though, I think we should do the alts as the color of the actual cat. For example, if a gray cat is mistakenly described as a tabby, it makes sense to make an alt as a gray tabby instead of a brown tabby default. 18:10, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

I always thought that to. Does anybody disagree? 20:01, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Should we have a vote? 01:51, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

New Project
Please comment on this: Forum:New Project. 01:11, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Warriors App
I was wondering if we're going to do chararts for the Warriors App. I don't have an iPhone or any of that fancy-shamnshy stuff, but I've seen screenshots, and they mention names they were known as. For example, for Leopardstar, she doesn't have a kit pixil, but a past name for her is Leopardkit, so would she get a charart? I know I can't reserve, but if we're doing it for them, I was going to put them on the Charaters Needing Art page, so somebody can reserve and do it :P 02:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ivystripe, this is a good question. I don't know what side to take on this. We have their names...but they weren't seen as that ranking. My guess is that they probably won't have chararts done, but, eh. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 02:32, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Cloudskye. They have just been named. They haven't been seen. Like Leafpool, she was named a queen but never got a queen charart. -- 02:35, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why not. Toadstep and Rosepetal weren't seen as apprentices; hell, we don't even have their names, but we gave them images anyone. We'd be hypocrites not to do Warrior App images. 02:37, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Moonflight. I think the characters in Warriors App should get image. 02:44, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I also agree with Moonflight and Rainwillow. 02:45, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Technically, She was seen as one. She was mentioned as a kit when Sunfish was trying to get her to get used to water, Isn't that good enough? It might not be in a book but it was still mentioned in the warriors world. 02:53, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I have no clue where that was mentioned.... I guess you're right, Splashpelt. If she was seen, then she gets one. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 02:57, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should do chararts for all cats on the app that were mentioned in a rank that they don't have right now. We've had plenty of chararts made when we only knew the name, and we didn't see the cat. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:59, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

That's what my logic is about this. For example, we never saw Leafstar's mother as a queen, but she got a pixil, and for Jingo's band of loners, some of the cats that died I think had descriptions, but we never actually saw them. I think we have to be careful though, because in the case of warriors, queens, and deputys, they have the same name, and I don't think we should assume they get a pixil for that if they were never seen as one of those ranks. If we have come to a concensus, give me the word and I'll start filling up the characters needing art page, if you'd like :)

-Oh, also, do we have to wait til midnight tonight to put the Crookedstar's Promise character on that page as well? If so I can do that while I'm putting in the others. 15:53, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

For the App, I think we should. Ivystripe is right. And on Crookedstar's Promise, this one stumps me. People reserved Sign of the Moon character on the fourth of April (around late evening/early night) but the rule has always been the day of the release. I would think, yes, midnight. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  16:20, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

They started reserving them at midnight on the server time. -- 16:49, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Actually I meant puting CP characters on the characters needing art page, so if somebody doesn't get who they want, they can find another cat to do. 20:24, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I added a lot of characters to that. :P And, I think characters that are talked about as or written about in the warriors App should get characters. 20:03, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Mapleshade?
Ok so go to Mapleshade and it says shes a loner, formely thunderclan, do we have a cite for that? Or not? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 22:55, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

"I should have been ThunderClan's leader! But ThunderClan cast me out when I took a RiverClan mate... To be a loner when all you tried to do was to love?" Crookedstar's Promise, pages 479-480. (Also, why is this on the Charat page?) -- 01:00, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Probably so someone can do her queen and loner image on the characters needing art page? 20:47, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I guess so...but I'm not sure about the queen. She was never seen as a queen, right? 05:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

(That doesn't explain asking about ThunderClan, though) Her kits were still, well, kits when she was cast out of ThunderClan. -- 06:00, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, she was mentioned, but not actually seen as a queen, so she technically shouldn't get a charart, right? 06:25, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Toadstep and Rosepetal were never seen as apprentices, and neither were most of the apprentices mentioned in the leaders' sections of Secrets of the Clans, but they still have chararts. -- 19:19, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, but Stonefur was in the section, but doesn't have an apprentice charart. Should he have one too? 07:28, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

It'd be hypocritical not to. All the others have gotten ones, even though the only pre-OS ones we've seen as apprentices are Lionheart, Frostfur, Graypool, and Brokenstar. -- 07:32, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Good point. We could add it to the list of characters needing art. 08:38, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join?
Can I join the Charart? I was curious because I wanted to make Charart of Sandstorm as a kit.

Silvereye1 19:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)Silvereye1Silvereye1 19:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest! I can't add you because I'm not the leader, but I probably should tell you that first you have to be a kit for a month, and you can't make any chararts, only comment. :) Shadey  Iro Ni!  21:40, July 6, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Join Request~ Iceh3art33
I'm writing this for Iceheart, because for some reason it isn't working for her:


 * Please can I join and I really want to become the new deputy of Project Charart over time :D" Iceh3art33 23:59, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Couple Questions
I have a couple questions. My first one, I put up Leopardstar's warrior image for approval, and it is on the approved list, but is not in her character pixels. Do I continue to keep it until the end of Tweak Week, or do I take it down? My other question is, I am listed as a warrior on the membership table, but my vote doesn't end until the 10th. Am I a warrior or an apprentice(as of now)? <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  03:48, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, may I join the project?

Well if they told you it was approved, then add it to her page. Also, anon, you can't be added unless you sign your post. Thanks. 20:49, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Mintstar, it's in the pending approval section. So it isn't approved. All of those chararts were moved there for Tweak Week. 21:24, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, there was a version made in 2010 that was approved I think. Original But it doesn't match at all, and since you're already doing it, and you're a warrior now, yes...? I think you should do it as a tweak. Even though it was not nominated...details, details. 22:52, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think I may have been confusing. Rainy, it appears that someone had already made the image and it was on the approved list, not the pending approval. I know that the one I made isn't approved, but the one Ivystripe provided in a link is the one that apparently got approved some time ago, but never ended up in her character pixels. I understand why the ones up for approval got moved, but I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about a completely different image. Again, Ivystripe provided a link. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:43, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think it might have been from before. So, maybe it was made, approved, but then decided that it was unecessary since she wasn't seen as one until now, and then removed. 15:25, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Crookedstar?
Now, I know we don't usually base a cat's looks from their cover or manga apperances, but for Crookedstar's apperance in the short manga at the end, I think we should make his jaw look like that, and it's how it was described in the book. It doesn't really stand out, and it is described as fairly noticeable. Thoughts? 21:34, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should make manga alts, and there was a discussion about that, but I don't know the results. It is a great idea to make his jaw look a bit more twisted, but maybe not as exaggerated as the manga version. :P 21:45, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, plus, his jaw is twisted the wrong way in his leader version, anyways, and his kit version needs a twisted jaw (I don't know if that'd count for an alternate pixil or not, though). 22:32, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should have a twisted jaw kit be an alternate. The current one for Stormkit and the twisted jaw for Crookedkit. -- 22:36, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Goldenpaw. The jaw is hardly noticeable. Wild fire  23:26, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, thats a good idea. 08:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you all! 03:55, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Userbox Issues?
Okay, I've looked at the PCA main page with four different browers (IE, Firefox, Safari and Google Chrome) and I've noticed something about the userboxes. They all say that the user is a member of the project, but, doesn't show their rank. Did someone play around with something and mess it up? I'm fond of the userboxes, and I'm not sure how to fix them myself, or I would. And yes, I did put the code in right. xD <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 20:20, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that too. It's odd for the coding is the same (noting the rank and whatnot) but comes out as the diffrerent userbox. 03:43, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

To whoever is in charge, I was wondering if I could join?

Did you check the template for the userboxes? 15:19, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I did. It's not showing up. I'm not sure what's wrong with them. They're all showing the same exact thing, regardless of the code put in after. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 21:54, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thats strange... 23:15, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Join Request
I was wondering if I could join? I practiced making Graypool as a warrior, and it turned out really nice.

You have to sign with 4 ~ so we know who you are. Just repeat that symbol 4 times and it will sign for you. 23:34, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Like this? Patch101 23:59, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, like that. xD A lead will add you in soon. Welcome to PCA! 05:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Graypool (W) ~ New
My first image; Graypool as a warrior. Patch101 01:23, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, its tweak week, so you can't put up regualar chararts. 02:05, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can I put it back up for acception when Tweak Week ends? (When is that?) Patch101 02:28, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Check the guidelines for rules on posting. But for future reference, the image looks fine, just work on the eyes. She has no pupils. 03:15, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, when tweak week is over, you'll be added in as a kit I suppose. Kits cannot post chararts until they've served a month being that rank, then you'll be able to post chararts as a warrior :) 03:41, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

As an apprentice, actually. xD 05:41, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, error xD 16:43, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Manga Alternates
So, the forum for this suddenly stopped. Is there a decision? :3 07:07, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Apparently not. I'd like to know myself, as to what we're supposed to do. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 15:00, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Should we ask a Project lead? 15:09, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

It does make sense to make alternates for the mangas. The Leafstar in the manga looks completely different from her book self. 15:17, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I talked this over with nightshine while she was still leader, and it was decided that if theres a major change (like to solid black or white from a colour) then theu get alts. 19:46, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! But, if a cat who is shown as a ginger-and-white cat, such as Mapleshade, is illustrated as a tortoiseshell-and-white cat in the CP manga, should she get an alt? 19:55, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Probably not. 19:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

What about Leaftstar or Millie? 22:08, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why Mapleshade shouldn't. There's a big difference between a tortoiseshell and a ginger-and-white cat, but if it doesn't count, it doesn't. I think Millie should, but I don't know about Leafstar. Its not that big of a difference, since they both are tabby. 22:57, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

But I don't think cats that haven't been featured on colours should get manga pictures at all. Like that Schnuky cat or whatever her name is, she was just assumed to be brown, but we don't know what colour she is. Why should she get an image? 00:41, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

For solid cats, you really can't tell, but I think we should have manga alternates for tabbies and other marking-type cats. We make chararts for cats who are just described as "tabby", so why not for one that is illustrated as one? Its basically the same thing, since in either one, you don't know the color, but know the markings. 07:25, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

For cats who don't appear on covers, I saw we should just do ones if they look radically different - Mapleshade being a perfect example. -- 07:35, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I have another question: What about cats INTRODUCED in mangas? Do they get an image? I think they should. 06:00, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, this is about manga alternates...I don't think introduced ones should, since they'd all appear gray. 17:23, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Tweak Week
This is probably a stupid question, but why can only warriors tweak charats? Shouldn't apprentices get a chance? Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 13:09, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's because the warriors/senior warriors are more experienced, I guess. I never did understand that, because some of the apprentices here make wonderful chararts. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 14:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. But, warriors have been members longer... 15:05, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

But some of the apprentices here were in PCA for a long time.... Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 15:11, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I was about to say that. x3 But I think it's just mostly because, like Cloudskye said, most apprentices aren't experienced enough yet. It wouldn't be fair if we let the more experienced apprentices make chararts for Tweak Week, but not any of the others. 15:15, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, like me for example. x3 Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:12, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can I Join, Please?
Hi, can I join the project please?

Of course. However, sign with a signature so the leads can figure out who you are to add you in. 07:12, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join?
I don't now how to shade on MS Paint, but I'll figure that out soon so please can you add me as a kit until I know? I'm also a total drama fan by my siginature. Go Team Noah 03:34, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

A lead will add you in soon. :) I don't think you CAN shade in MS paint, but you can use Pixlr, or download Gimp (it's free and safe, don't worry). And sign with four ~'s. Just type four of them at the end of your post and it will sign for you. Very simple. ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥

And Sumopaint is good also. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 23:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join?? I dunno how shade on GIMP. -- 01:33, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Sure! Just wait for a lead to add you in :) You'll be added as a kit, not being able to post a charart until you've served for a month :) As for GIMP, I reccomend if you do not know how to use that, to use Pixlr, Sumopaint or even Photoshop :) 02:54, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, can I join, please?
Hi, can I join as a apprentice, please?

Amberfur 21:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, you can join, just wait 'till a lead will add you in. But, you will be added in as a kit, kits can't do charats, but they can comment on them :) Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 23:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Kits
I have a question... when do the kits become apprentices? I think it was a month, but I don't remember. 03:59, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, after kits were in the project for a month, they become apprentices. Hope this helped! Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:32, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! :) 01:13, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Page screw-up
The page is severely messed up and as you go down the words gets smaller. I don't know if it's a mess up or somebody didn't code their signature right, but it needs to get fixed (I would, but I'm still learning some of the codes used) 20:56, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Shellheart didn't close the small tag in her signature. I fixed it. -- 21:46, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Approved Charart

 * So, yes, I fail. While approving Rainwhisper's Spottedleaf's image, I accideantly forgot I copied pasted it and approved Lionblaze instead. I couldn't undo the Lionblaze edit to get back at the Spottedleaf edit, so should I just leave it like that since Spottedleaf's current image would currently replace the old one? 22:01, July
 * 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooh, that's bad. Um, maybe a lead should decide. That's all I got :P Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:58, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooh, that's bad. Um, maybe a lead should decide. That's all I got :P Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:58, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Cant you find all the coding in the history? 00:36, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

You should be able to. Its not hard, just go to the edit and find the edit differences, and copy-paste it, and add it right back. 17:48, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Charart Tutorial?
I was wondering if I could make a charart tutorial. Do you have to be a senior warrior to do it, or can you be just a regular warrior? <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  03:02, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Anyone can. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:43, July 13, 2011 (UTC)