Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Briarkit - For Approval
I drew Briarkit. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. G B 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

A few things. One, the background cannot be colored, and also needs to be transparent. I can fix that for you. Two, the eyes are "missing." Three, there needs to be more blending and shading. FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

1. I will fix the background, but I would appreciate it if you made it transparent.2. Her eye-color hasn't been said yet; if it is revealed in Long Shadows, I'll add it.3. If you can give me some tips on how to do the shading and blending, I'll work on it. G B 14:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Idf you downloaded an art program you should have a blurtool if you do you use a darker shade around the edges then you use the blurtool to blend them together.--Redflare 14:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I reuploaded Briarkit; I attempted to some shading. Like it? G B 15:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It's better!-- J K  O  21:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jakko! FxC, any comments? G B 22:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the great comments! If there's anything else I can do to improve it (besides blurtool :p), tell me! G B 22:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks better. The outline need to be black though. For the eyes, I know it hasn't been revealed. I suggest green - it's really neutral. --FxC **The Waterfall** 02:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If we left things out to wait for details from the books, pretty much none of the characters would be able to be done. I'd personally suggest a generic cat-eye-color like amber. Outlines need to be black. Shading is needed. And the pink selected for inside the ears... It's rather... bright and unnatural.. Maybe suggest a softer, gentler pink.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Added her eyes. But I forgot about the black outline, fix that as soon as I can! G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Did the outline. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like the outline was changed from the original lineart... and the eyes... have this creepy staring Zombie thing going on... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Kitsufox is right. It does look like a zombie with these eyes.ZZ Top 19:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should just draw in little pupils to make it look more natural. 97.115.124.162 03:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree...-- J K  O  03:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

This really does look good, GB. Just draw some pupils in like 97... said and blur the shading and ears and it'll look great! -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I have GIMP now! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Much improved. The eyes are still... a bit off. You might wish to spend some more time on them. And the shading needs to get blended into the picture, as does the pink on the inside of the ears (right now it just looks like a dollop of paint fell there). You've sorted the outline issue wonderfully, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Kitsu! I'm on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The ear pink is still unblended and incredibly bright. The shading is still un-blended. The eyes do look good, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll take your advice, Kitsu. I'll work on Briarkit. On the changes. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Your'e so close. I think what'll help is making the pink of the ears more triangular. 97.115.120.104 01:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The pink is really a bit bright yet for such a dark furred cat. And blending it a bit more, so it's just a hint of how thin the fur on the inside of the ears and they'll be pretty good. You should also blend a touch more under the chin, as that shading line is still really sharp. You also missed shading on the bit of belly that shows, and want to make sure all your shading transitions are nice and smooth. You're almost there! <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on this tomorrow. (SB's using the computer, which has GIMP on it.) <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The hard transitions between colors are still there. They need to get blended. Shading needs to be smooth and not look so sharply defined against the rest of the pelt. You're just about there. Get the blending, and I don't think I'll have anything else. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on it tomorrow. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 21:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:16, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

The hard lines are still in the shding, I desparately wangt the shading and blending amped up so she has that aceppted look. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse 01:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Um... what? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 21:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I typed too fast whil holding something. What I meant is that she needs blending on the hard transitions on the shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 18:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me. ;) --Mumble785 23:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I think the ears need a little more blending, and mabye some highlights... If you try and it looks wierd, just don't do the highlights. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 21:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I think the ears could be more pointy... but looks great! ::Applestar4904 16:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll blend the ears a little bit more, but they don't need to be pointier. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that her right ear (on our left) could be a little bit pointier, because it look fairly round right now. The nose looks a little unnatural in the colour, but then I'm used to the warrior ones where you don't even have to colour the nose! In general however, It is great! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Applestar, Dawnfeather, if you guys have a problem with the ears, take it up with Kitsu. She made the blanks, I'm just using them. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 13:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Any other comments before approval? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it's ready ^^.--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 06:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

The eyes look weird. Sorry about the comment with the ears, don't worry about it, i didn't realise. (Dawnfeather, just not logged on) 211.29.46.132 00:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

The neck shading is wider on one side then the other it makes it look angled, other than that good :).

I think this is ready for approval GB. You've done a good job with the image. The only thing I can see is that the nose colour is a lot brighter than the ears; perhaps this could be toned down. Apart from that I'd agree that it's good to go --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:09, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:25, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blended into the rest of the body better. Dawnfeather 08:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:14, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Could be done some more. Dawnfeather 23:17, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I think this is ready GB - you've done a good job and it's up to the standard of the other approved images so I say it should be approved --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 16:32, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

This has been up far too long. I agree with Sandy; it should be approved. There's nothing wrong with it and it looks good. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 00:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * GB, this is definetly ready for approval, but the ear pink needs to be blended into the pelt, then it'll be ready. -- Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">Talk! User contributions 00:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Mallinois, I've constantly blended this, and if I did it anymore, it would probably turn brown :/. Anymore comments before this is approved? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:34, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

None, this should have been approved days ago Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 16:32, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Blanks - For Approval


I'm back! This time I'm trying to contribute with these medicine cat blanks. I made them look as realistic as I could, and tried to stick with the style of the previous blanks. And, as trivia, the herb that the medicine cat is carrying is coltsfoot! Well...if one were to color the flower yellow. XD But either way, constructive criticism is welcome. I hope these are fine! C: --Hazelflower 04:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Me likey! --Spottedleaf x firestar 11:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool! The coltsfoot was definately a nice touch!-- J K  O  13:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

First of all, there already are medicine cat blanks up for approval. The coltsfoot was nice, but these blanks look a bit manga-ish. Good effort though. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know there couldn't be more than one up for approval at a time!! I'm sorry. D: Also, do you have any suggestions, perhaps? It'd be more helpful if you were to tell me how to make them look more realistic, rather than just saying they look mangaish, ya know? But I really appreciate the honesty. :D --Hazelflower 20:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, the eyes need to be a bit bigger, and maybe even out the facial features, so the forehead isn't so big? --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 00:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

There can be more than one of a certain blank for approval at a time; just because one is already p, doesn't mean that another can't be posted.–– Σulãlíã 459 678 00:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I think Kitsu is going to deal with this problem soon, that way there won't be any arguements. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * And also I would like to tie in with Eu, the person said they'd like to decline the art themselves so really its ok for another blank to be up. Kitsu just hasn't been up to update it so I see nothing wrong with it all. Also GB and FB I know you guys are helping out alot while Kitsu is away, but you don't have to act like you guys are the leaders of this. I'm just saying how it feels to me. Anyway...I personally love the blank Hazelflower. Great job and they do seem realistic. Maybe you could even redo some of the other bases, you know? -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 04:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, FC. I really appreciate it! C: And I hope it didn't cause any controversy...? I just wanted to make some blanks. XD~ And thanks, Shim-Shim. I appreciate the compliment! :D -Hazelflower 04:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Update! Okay, so I made the foreheads smaller like you (sort of) suggested, FC. I tried to move the facial features around, but it just looked really weird to me. Either way, I hope it looks a little better now. -Hazelflower 00:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Let's get this party started... Very nice work. But not 100% set for approval, as I have a few tweaks. They all probably stem from what I think is a usual Anime-style of drawing that you have. It's not necessarily anything bad, just some tweaks I'd like to see to get them to fit a bit more with existing blanks and amp up the realism a touch. You've got a great start, though. I like the head as it is now. You might want to raise the eyes a pixel or so, but I don't know if that would acctually help deal with the high cranium. It might acctually be best as it is now. Now... Something about the far-foreleg is weird to me... I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's just that it starts so far forward compared to the other. You've acctually got the same effect happening on the far-hind, also. And the tail seems... a tad long. You've got a stellar start, however. OH! And for the longhairs... Can we get a touch of shaggy on the head and legs? Not too much, just a bit! Like at teh elbow and knee and between the ears. Not too much, just a little so they look less sleek. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

All right! :D I worked really hard on improving these, and I hope that they're to everyone's liking. I even moved the eyes up a pixel (and the cat's left eye closer to the other just a bit) and I quite like the result. C: -Hazelflower 22:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They're looking great. I still have one thing I think needs work. It's more pronounced on the shorthair... But there's just something a little weird about the connection of the neck to the body. You're getting there, and it's looking excellent. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Kitsu! Sorry I haven't said anything in, what, a few days? School was busy this week, but now it's the weekend! I'll give an update as soon as I've fixed it. C: -Hazelflower 20:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Update again!! Okay, so, I finally found the time to tweak it just a tad. I brought in the back neckline a bit on the short-hair bases, and I moved down the long-hair back just by about a pixel (but I'm debating on just moving it back up). So, I hope this update is all right! -Hazelflower 02:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks great to me!-- Jakko 123  21:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If you shift the shoulder-blade you added in back a bit, I think it'll be perfect. Putting it in kinda... got my brain around what was off about the shoulder area. Also, keep in mind you'll need to scale the image, also, so that it's in scale with the Warrior Pixel. Great work! <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

How do you tell the difference between the male and female blanks? They all look like females to me. User:Mallinois/ Coyote=background:Black>Coyote  The Doghouse  00:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

The eyes - the females have more pointed eyes where as the males have rounded edges.-- Sandy 20:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

These are great, I hope they get approved. Nice touch ith the herbs.--Redflare 19:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Still, they all look like females, so I suggest adding a more masculine quality to the males. Warm Regards, <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  20:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I like them, but go with what malinois said(make males more massculine), and the full sized blanks are way to huge... --Mumble785 23:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in a while, but please take the feminine quanities out. Can you imagine Jayfeather in one of these? Frankly, I also think that the blanks are manga-ish, and they need to look more like real cats. Otherwise, they look good. Keep working! --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 22:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I think I know what you could do to make it less feminine, The point of the head in the side, if you make it less pointy they might look more massculine ..::Applestar4904 14:37, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the shoulder a tiny bit wider on the male. Also, I don't know how good or bad this would look, but maybe make the legs and body a pixel thicker for the tom? Don't know how any of this would look, but I love your effort, and the nice touch with the coltsfoot. Dawnfeather 21:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Much as I like these... they haven't been workd on in months. I don't want to mini-mod or anything but...--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 02:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry I haven't been on here for ages. But I'm here now, and I think what I'm going to do, taking all the critiques and constructive criticism I've gotten is either try to restore these or do them over completely. Thanks for the input, everyone! I hope you're all not too very mad at me. :C Hazelflower 17:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Not mad at all! I hope that wasn't offensive, I just like it when the page is free of clutter xD.--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 03:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Whitethroat - For Approval


Okay, I got bored seeing as I currently have nothing else to do on my other images at the moment and decided to colour Whitethroat. Please comment appropriately. -- Sandy 17:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I think you pretty much have this done, except for the paint-like swirlyness. Try blurring full-time. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  22:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Better?-- Sandy 16:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Preety Good. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  23:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Whitethroat also haas white paws -- random guest

Okay, I'll work on that when I have time-- Sandy Leader's Den  10:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

This looks really good. The blending is beautiful, and the shading is great too.-- Jakko 123  15:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I added his paws - thanks for reminding me, I forgot they were white too. Anything else need changing?-- Sandy Leader's Den  12:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

If I could accept it, I sure would! I don't think anything needs to be changed! But that's my opinion. --Mumble785 19:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Mumble :)-- Sandy Leader's Den  20:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Mumble, that's not true. There's still a lot it needs. Sandy, the shade of black you picked is really dark, and it makes it hard to see the eyes. Also, the back paws are still black. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 22:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I lightened the colour and coloured the back paws white. I've also added some darker shading along the back and in the other usual places now this is visible.-- Sandy  Leader's Den  12:26, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Better... *nods head and gives two thumbs up* --Mumble785 18:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Perfect. Flamefeather 18:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think he could use a white dot for the pupil...or is it iris? Correct me on the word if I'm wrong. I'm in physical science now and totally forgot everything XD-- Shimmer Crystals 03:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Better?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 13:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

hmm...i edited it and reuploaded but over five hours later and the changes still aren't showing on my cp...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

The change is finally showing. Is this better Shim?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Some of the outline looks changed. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then howled bravely - Ui! 22:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Not that I'm aware of...where do you mean?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it's the further ear (where it meets the head). -- MU MB LE 785  20:43, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Mumble, I didn't spot that. I've fixed the outline now and it should be showing up correctly. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm being ridiculously fussy, but I think that the shape of the white on the front should be a little more random. Just make it staick out in a place or two. Also, the dark shading on the bottom part of the top part of the hind fore-leg (if that makes any sense! I mean the part which is like the knee/thigh) the shading is a little bit weird. It ends in a round shape, instead of smoothly ending. Keep in mind that i am in a cruel, judging unfairly mood, before you are offended by my critism. It is really good! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 13:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not offended Dawnfeather. Thanks for pointing out its faults! I've worked on the legs and tried to smooth the endings out (even though I got confused by which leg you meant!) I also tried to do something with the chest fur...not sure whether it looks better or worse though --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I love it, Sandstar! (Sorry, just a random thought, while thinking of your name. Sanstorm would make a good leader!) I can see no faults anymore! Sorry for confusing you. I even confused myself a little bit too! Dawnfeather 23:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks (and yes she probably would!) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 09:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The eyes are a bit small, making them bigger might help, otherwise, I like. --Firebird2102

The eyes are the standard size; I haven't changed the lineart so I can't really make them bigger...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I decided to update myself and I tweaked the white fur blending. Is there anything else? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:04, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Along the back it seems like there are some white/gray pixels. --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 02:50, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I've had a look but I can't see anything ut of place. The only thing there is the shading and highlights...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:13, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

The ear is way too dark. Otherwise, this is good. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've updated and it should show up in a moment. Better? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 16:38, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

For some reason it isn't updating properly yet - I've checked it uploaded and the thumbnail is there but it's not showing up here Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 20:10, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, it's showing up now - is this better? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 10:32, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

It's better, but maybe make it(the pink of the ear) a little wider. (This is just me being a perfectionist again.) Once you've done that, I can see absolutely no reason why this shouldn't be approved. Dawnfeather 11:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know...I tried to keep it to a slightly smaller than average size because he's a black cat. Are there any other opinions on whether I should make it bigger or not because I'm not sure which is right... Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 14:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

No, don't worry. I wasn't sure if it was right or not myself. Can we get a GB-the-awesome-approving-machine in here? This needs to be on the other charart page, not this talk one! (lol) Dawnfeather  06:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Clovertail for approval


A piece of artwok that I am throwing at you because I got bored, once again. I need advice! --Mumble785 17:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

You're adding a highlight down the back, instead of shading. As I have said, use Gorse's Weaselfur as a model for shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  21:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

You can add a highlight too, but I think you need a thicker band of shading behind it before the highlight--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 16:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Is that better? --Mumble785 00:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I can see that the outline's blended. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 23:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Better? I also added more shading. -- MU MB LE 785  18:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

It looks too dark. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

ok. i need to put some of my images on hold, including this one. not able to be as active as I used to. :( -- MU MB LE 785  18:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think there is anything to fix in this. It's really good, I think it's the best one I've seen so far. Can someone please approve this? Please.-- Thornpath togehodou 05:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

-Gets excited- Thanks, Thornpath! -- MU MB LE 785  20:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I love it, i really do, but i think that the shading under the chin is a little bit weird. Have a look at weasel fur, and try and make the shading there stick out a little more underneath the head? Dawnfeather 23:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok. -- MU MB LE 785  17:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Updated. Is that better? (P.S. Sorry for my absence...) -- MU MB LE 785  18:17, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

This is excellent Mumble. Any more comments before this is approved? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, this is really good. The only thing I can see is that the ear pink seems a little too big on the lower side Apart from that it's ready --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 16:34, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Elder Blanks - For Approval
We are in need of elder blanks, so i thought i would make some. What do you think? I'm having some troubles with the size.Dawnfeather 04:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I think you should get rid of the smile, and mabye make it look grumpy... You know elders... -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 13:30, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Grumpy enough? There is something about the back which bothers me. Anyone else feel the same way? Tell me if you can think of what it is. I've only been a user on here for a few weeks, and I noticed that Kitsu hasn't been on since late November last year. Does anyone know where she is? she seem's like the authority on this project from what i've heard. Dawnfeather 23:08, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Kitsu's been very busy lately, so she hasn't been on a lot. I don't see a problem with the back, could you explain it to me? -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 13:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, but the short haired ones' backs seems too flat or something. Dawnfeather 21:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

i see what you mean about the backs. Maybe try making a SMALL dip in the center, to give it the look of a wither/shoulder and a rump/hindquarter. Flam efeat her 18:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Thanks, I think they look better, but is it too extreme now? Dawnfeather 05:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I think they look excellent! But the ear on in front looks round on top... not to be fickle... ::Applestar4904 16:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

These look pretty good. One thing did jump out though: the outline on the bottom edge of all the tails and under their chins is blurry - is this intentional? They definitely look grumpy to me! There is also something about the ears...I can't put my finger on it exactly. I think it maybe that the back of the head seems to stick out quite a lot and it looks a bit un-natural...I dunno. Perhaps that's just me. Good work though! --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I made the neck thinner, changed the ear, and made the outline darker. Is it better? Applestar, I love the name! It's a pity we find nothing more about Applekit in the books after Starlight. (Sorry, a bit off topic! But while im at it, can someone help me make a sig? I don't know how to do all that HTML stuff...) Dawnfeather  08:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

It Looks Great! And thanks, lol ..::Applestar4904 14:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Has anyone got anymore suggestions? Come on, I know it's not perfect yet! Dawnfeather 22:40, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I know I'm not an official member yet, (at least I don't think I am) but the head seems a bit to big to me. (I should talk though, I'm terrible at drawing cats! =p)--<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Merlock the Wizard <font color="Black" style="background:Red">Lets talk  16:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Thanks, I appreciate the consructive critism. I only changed the short hairs co they were ridiculously out of porportion. I'm not sure whether or not to change the long hairs as well. ???? THey look better, but still a bit odd. Dawnfeather 06:31, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I think that the longhair's heads look just fine. In fact, I think they're good enough to use, but I'm not really a member yet, so I can't make that decision. XP I'm sure they'll be used though. --<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Merlock the Wizard <font color="Black" style="background:Red">Lets talk  21:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

The lines from mid-neck to mid-back need evening out. Darkhallows 21:32, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

???? Sorry, Darkhallows, but what? Can you explain in further detail what you mean please? ???? Thanks Merlock! I hope you're right, but if you are, it'll be in a while. I'ld be the first cat to admit that these need a lot of work, especially the short-haired ones. I'm a perfectionist, but they look weird! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 10:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, firstly the heads of the longhaired ones are now way bigger than the shorthaired which looks strange. Secondly, they look like they ahve really fat forelegs (closest one) especially the shorthaired... Also, is there any way to further distinguish between male and female other than the eyes? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

How to tell them apart; On the long hairs, the female's fur is a little bit neater, and on the short hairs the female has a smaller line defining the shape of the chest. On both of them the front paws are slightly slimmer and there is that thing with the eyes. I don't have enough time right now to work on these, I'm going away over easter, and then im going away with my family, but I think we'll still stay at a place with internet, 'cos my brother is in his final year of school and he has a few essays to write over the holidays! I'll try and do that stuff before then tho. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. Now you've pointed it out I can see there are a lot of differences! Sorry I was being unobservant! --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 11:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

That's okay! I didn't really want to make them too obvious, but do you think they should be? <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 12:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I re-adjusted the head and body porportions, and I think they look better, but they are still a bit weird. Any thoughts? I'll get around to the paws a little bit later, I haven't got time right now. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 02:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I am going away for a week and a half from today, just so everybody knows. Dawnfeather 23:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! What I mean is, the lines from top of the head to the back of the neck aren't as smooth as the others (I'm assuming that's where you edited them). --<font color="black" style="background:blue">DarkHallows <font color="red" style="background:Black">Lair 06:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I've just noticed that the lineart on the shorthairs is all fuzzy around the head area--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 12:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I know. I'm struggling to fix them, but my efforts are so bad so far that I haven't yet posted any of them. The short haired ones look so bad, I think I'll just fix up the longhaired, and then edit those into shorthairs, using my current shorthairs as a guide. -- Dawnfeather 07:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay,I cleared up the lines, reajusted the head, and I think it's heaps better. Any opinions? Dawnfeather 10:12, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I have been working on these for a while now, but I want to know people's opinions. Do you think that, even with work, these pictures could ever be accepted? It's a pretty big thing to accept a blank, so I don't know if these will ever be up to scratch. Don't get me wrong, I want to make these offical, that was the whole point of posting them. I'm just not sure if they are, or ever will be good enough. Please post your opinions on this! Dawnfeather  11:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I definitely think these could be approved in the fairly near future. I like the longhaired ones but I think the lineart of the shorthaired needs to be slightly thicker to make them consistent with each other Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 19:58, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree, you could go over them with a thicker brush...--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 06:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I made the lines wider, but now they are too wide, even though I only changed them by a pixel. I'm really not so sure how these would work. The tail, back and ears stil look weird to me. Mind you, I am a perfectionist, and this is my own work. Dawnfeather 06:58, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually I think they look great with the thick lines, but you only did the shorthairs.--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 22:13, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I made the long-hair's lines wider.

The front shoulder is annoying me. Any ideas? Dawnfeather 10:59, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I see what you mean, try slimming down the females... If you want I could get some ref pictures of my cats for you.--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 02:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry? I don't understand you again.

Oh yeah- i can't make the background transparent. Can someone please do this for me, if it isn't too big an ask. It just won't co-operate with me. Dawnfeather 06:12, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I have a habit of doing that. The front of the leg, slim the female's down maybe? Also, I can make them transparent if you want.--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 07:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Darkhallows. I mean the shoulder, not the leg. I'll try what you said anyway. Dawnfeather 07:16, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Blossomkit - For Approval
I took a stab at a tortoiseshell. The white spots aren't that good, though. -- Gοlδεn pαω 23:54, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Try to add a little more order to the patches. They all overlap and clash. Google tortoiseshell and see how some real ones look. Right now it just looks like she got splattered with paint(no offense, it's a cute vision in my mind ;) -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I own a tortie, and not a bit of her color is organized.=/ -- Gοlδεn pαω 02:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Bramble, I think the patches are fine. You don't want to organize the patches. That just makes the cat look...staged. Goldenpaw, if you could brighten the ears a little bit, this would actually be ready for approval. Nice job :). <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 04:05, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks messy. Not like you were discussing earlier, like how it is organised. I think that there are too many different shades of ginger, and the tranitions between colours are just smudged everywhere. Most of the body is covered in randomness (which i don't mind) and then on top of the head it is all dark. Also, I think there needs to be tabby markings in the ginger bits, from looking at my cats. Torties aer just ginger tabbys with black splattered iver them, and then sometimes white too. I can't remember, because this has taken me a few minutes to write, but I don't think there was much shading either. Dawnfeather 04:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Edited. Though, I think the colors I choose for the orange and cream seem a bit unnatural. I think I should change it later.=/ -- Gοlδεn pαω 04:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, this is very nice. Excellent job, Goldenpaw! Any more comments before approval? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 04:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the contrast is too high between the greys and the other colours. Maybe a brownish colour for the body? -FaRReR

Also, it doesn't look very 3-D, especially around the boundary between the neck and the head.

You added a bit of shading on the back, but the change between that and the lighter black is too sudden. Blend it some more. The needs to be more shading - on the other side. The oranges are still too bright and unnatural, and maybe use less different ones, just the one orange/ginger. Then put tabby markings on them. Dawnfeather 05:00, 2 May 2009 (UTC) I disagree, GB.

The only thing I see wrong with this is the small smudges that are out of the lines. Fix those, and this is ready. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Hate to break it to you, but i just did a bit of research. Shadowclan blossomkit it white, and thunderclan blossomkit is a brown tabby with a dark stripe down her back. Neither are tortie. Dawnfeather 05:19, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather's right. FaRReR 05:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather was trying to post that for 15 minutes. She is really really angry. Whatever you are doing, keep it up ;) -Devestatorie, Older brother of Dawnfeather.

I guess you wouldn't mind if I smashed in this computer. You always hog the laptop. XP Dawnfeather  05:39, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Changed the ginger a bit. And the brown tabby thing is a mess-up. When she was born in Eclipse, she was tortoiseshell-and-white. -- Gοlδεn pαω 06:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

but offically she is a brown tabby with a dark stripe down her back.. Dawnfeather 06:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Did they forget why they named her Blossomkit in the first place?=/ -- Gοlδεn pαω 06:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

yeah, it seems so. But still, offically shes brown. Maybe we should wait for GB to use his authority to make a decision. In my opinion, she should be done brown, but if you continue to do her tortie, i would suggest following these steps;

1)colour a kitten a ginger pattern that you are happy with. If you feel like it, add tabby

2) add the (large) splashes of black

3) add the white 'petals' that Millie described.

don't forget the ears, eyes, nose, ec. Dawnfeather 06:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The ginger patches are way too bright and unnatural, and I just noticed that there's no shading. -- Mallinois Fluffy's Territory 12:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather, officially she's tortie. Her first description is the true one. They even said they were naming her because of her pelt. She's tortie. Now, let's keep this conversation civil, or I'll have to ask that you don't comment in this section. Goldenpaw, this is lovely, I just need for you to clear up the smears that managed to escape the lines, and maybe a bit of shading on her. That'll be enough. :) <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 14:22, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Edited. At first, I was just using the burn for shading, but now I did it by hand.;3 -- Gοlδεn pαω 15:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Whoa! I liked it at first, but now she looks like she fell in Kraft Mac & Cheese! Maybe you could change the colors back. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 18:20, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

xD I'll get right to it. -- Gοlδεn pαω 19:08, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Whoa, this sure has caused some problems. I've been looking at the image for about five minutes just trying to decide whether I like it. I actually do - especially the head. The only problem I can see is that the ginger on the body just seems a little too bright. I'm not sure though. (ps. GB, What is Kraft Mac & Chesse out of interest?) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 16:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I've worked it out. The ginger patches seem to stand out from the pelt as if they're 3D themselves on top of the actual coat...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:08, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Also - the background needs to be transparent Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 20:08, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Re-using Pics.
I was wondering if I could re-use my Greenflower picture for a more suitable cat. (e.g. Sorreltail) I grew quite attached to it, so I would like to be able to still use it. Dawnfeather 11:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you can do that, Dawnfeather. Just resave the picture as whichever cat you want to do and then add in a section for that cat. Glad you want to, because I really liked your tortoiseshell. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 12:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't see it as a problem as long as it isn't being used for another cat as an approved image and as long as it fits. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 16:45, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you can do that. I really liked it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Ill wait for Mousefur to be removed, and Elder blanks to be declined or accepted before i put it up though. It's hard work, I've spent hours on it and I haven't even done half the shading. Dawnfeather 04:24, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I know how rude this is, and I'm sorry in advance. Can I please reserve Sorreltail? I have done hours of work on her, but I can't put her up until the elder blanks are finished! The pain... Thanks guys. Dawnfeather 06:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't usually allow this, but that pic was beautiful, so go ahead. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:37, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks GB. I'm so sorry that I was really rude about this, but I couldn't not at least try. Again, thatnks GB. Dawnfeather  06:08, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

IRC Channel
We now have a channel for PCA: #wikia-warriorcats-pca. Anyone there? If so, get on the IRC. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 20:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

What's an IRC channel? Dawnfeather 06:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

It's like a chatroom. If you look on the left hand side of your page there will be a link that says 'Warriors Wiki IRC' If you click that and then add '-pca' to the end of the channel, type in a nickname and connect then you can talk to other members freely on the channel without the hassle of talk pages. (I think that's it) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 10:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

In fact, Sandy, that's exactly it. Good job. Maybe you could get on? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:17, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Whenever I get on there never seems to be anyone else! I'll try :) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 16:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Lionheart- for approval


This is my first charart so please critic, it can help me in the future. Sandwich 989

All I see is a white box... --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 06:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't even see that, unless I click on the link. Other than that, all I see is a link. Dawnfeather 06:23, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the problem is that it is in xcf format rather than png or gif. Try changing the format of the image and it may show up. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 10:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I know when I uploaded it for some wierd reason all that came up was a white blank. How do i change the format? Sandwich 989

Never mid its fixed. Sandwich 989

Okay, there needs to be shading, and the image lineart seems too thin. Make sure you click the blank on the main page you want to use, then save it/copy-paste it. I also believe Lionheart had golden eyes. The tabby stripes also look too narrow. That's about it. Not bad for a first shot.

Also keep in mind that Lionheart was a deputy when he died. But since we're doing all-life stage pics, this will probably stay up. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 00:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

How do I shade? Sandwich 989

This is way to small, remember to click on the image before using it. There is also no shading. Look up a few tutorials, look at other peoples pictures and try it for yourself. It's not very hard. --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 06:19, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I use photoshop to make charart, and there is a burn tool on the side panel. You pretty much just run the tool along the sides. I don't know about GIMP or Paintshop. What program did you use? -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 20:57, 7 May 2009 (UTC) )

GIMP Sandwich 989

Yellowfang - For Approval
I made a Yellowfang one: Mistystream 22:43, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

She's a medicine cat, and Charart doesn't have Medicine Cat Blanks yet. And did you use Grandient on the fur? <font face="Century Gothic" size="2" color="Violet" >Warrior♥ 23:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I moved the image over because it was going into the next section. We don't have a medicine cat blank.--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 07:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Join?
Hello! I wanted to know if I can join Charart...? I used to make graphics, and I still do once in awhile...for myself. I don't plan on making any Warrior Wiki images, but I wanted to help the ones for approval by making comments. :) <font face="Century Gothic" size="2" color="Violet" >Warrior♥ 23:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

You don't have to join to comment on pics. Feel free to anytime. Dawnfeather 10:54, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Your added. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:06, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Honeyfern- for approval
Alright, so I feel sort of bad uploading another one so soon. But I figure that if I'm going to upload it, might as well do it now. Anyway, I though she deserved a picture. --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 04:48, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh my gosh, that is so pretty! I haven't even rad sunrise yet, but I miss her already! She is an awesome character! Dawnfeather 06:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Is there anything I can fix? --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 07:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Ask someone who doesn't like her as much! I wasn't sure if the eyes were supposed to be blue, but you are right on that one. I love the way you have done the shading and the tabby markings. However, some of the tabby markings don't meet the black line very neatly, and the ear and eyes (although the paleness suits her personality) could be a tinsy bit brighter/darker. Only a tinsy bit though. I still stick by what I said earlier- she is beautiful, and I can't believe that Berrynose didn't fall for her until just before she died. Dawnfeather 07:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the tabby markings, and brightened the ears/eyes. Thanks again Dawnflower.--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 09:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

It's awesome. (it's Dawnfeather, not flower :) ) Dawnfeather  09:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Ooh! This is one of the best I've seen so far on this page! As far as suggestions go, I would add a bit more of a "honey" brown to the pelt and maybe a lighter pink in her ear. Great job, though! -user: Firebird2102

This is beautiful! I don't see anything wrong with it except that the ear pink could be blended a little bit more. Other than that, this looks ready for approval. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 20:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Copperpaw-For Approval

 * [[Image:Copperpaw2.PNG]]


 * I made Copperpaw. If you see that it looks like Bouncepaw, it's because imodeled it off of Bouncepaw, just like I modeled Lionblaze off of Squirrelflight. Feel free to comment. -- Mallinois TC 20:13, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Copperpaw is dark ginger, while Bouncepaw is just plain ginger. Perhaps make her a little darker and blend the highlight a little more. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 21:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I made it too light, and I can't change the color. -- Mallinois TC 21:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Putting her back up. Any tips besides color change?-- Mallinois TC 21:44, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Snowkit - For Approval
Poor deaf little Snowkit. Carried off by a hawk before he could contribute to his Clan. I really felt bad for him, so here is his picture. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 21:18, 7 May 2009 (UTC)