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Owlfur (W) -- For Approval
This probably isn't my best charar ever, but anyway, comments?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  22:51, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

This looks really good. ^-^ I'd say to darken the shading and lighten the highlights because I can't really see them, but this is trully fabulous. ;)  Kit ties Rule da WORLD! Mumble sees a kitty!!! 21:44, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened shading and lightened highlights, better?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  20:23, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Much better. :)  Kit ties Rule da WORLD! Mumble sees a kitty!!! 23:18, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the bit of shading on the tail tip and also blur the ear pink-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   23:49, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred ear pink and tail tip shading. What else?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  20:30, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks perfect to me-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   04:33, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

The shading overlaps the highlights, but it needs to be a smooth connection. Try blurring the transition some. 6  Ice  thr  oat   8  Only two more weeks left of school! 19:00, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the places where the brown touches the white.

Reuploaded. Sorry it took so long, comments?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  20:27, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the white transition on the fore arm-- Night s h i n e   R  03:07, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred fore arm transition. What else?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  12:29, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think there's some blurred lineart at the very end of the transition between brown and white on our right end of the tail. 6  Ice thr oat   8  School's out! For summer! 14:28, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

I couldn't find it (if I was looking at the right section...)-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  01:10, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the white parts some more. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:51, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

On the transition between brown and white on the tail, on this >> side of it it looks like there's a jagged strand of lineart, and I think some of it got blurred while blurring the transition. Does this help you find it? $  Ice thr oat   %  Exploring  through the   galaxies... 14:38, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I just now realized that the lineart wasn't blurred, but that it was part of the tail lineart. For some reason it looked different to me, but I have no clue why. That's completely my fail, and I apologize greatly for it. D: (When I'm done making this comment I'll find a book and hit myself in the head repeatedly.) Otherwise for the image, lighten the shading just a little bit. It looks like it's overlapping the highlights when it should look like a smooth transition. $  Ice thr oat   %  Exploring  through the   galaxies... 03:23, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Really nice! I'd say to blur the front right(furthest away) leg where the two colours meet. It might already be blurred... Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  16:49, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The shading is too light, isn't it? Icethroat- It's ok, it looked a little odd, so I fixed it. -- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  23:29, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blue: Blur some more. Red: Blurred lnieart. Hope this helps! :) Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  14:30, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred and fixed as directed above. What else?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  15:01, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Move the shoulder highlight up a bit. Other than that this is perfect!-- Night s h i n e   R  05:46, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. Icefall Icy Winds 22:33, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Dapplenose (A) For Approval
fail,fail,such a fail.The sun is the left corner not the right.That's why the shading is on the bottom. S n i c k e r s 11 Days! 23:35, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

You'll have to resave the blank. Here:



Also, look at a turtorial for the eyes. And I can't see much shading.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 23:54, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I resized it:

It's going to need to be blurred a lot more to look like her other images and shading. Dark hallows 01:44, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Pixlr's blurring tool is very bad,but I'll try. S n i c k e r s  8 Days! 21:09, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

CoughUseGIMPcoughcough ;) The blurring tool is at least twice as strong as pixlr's. insane  brick'd 21:39, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thats's why I don't use Pixlr... GIMP is so much better (I also have photoshop, but never use it...) Dark hallows 23:12, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

I won't be able to get on any art program for a couple days....Dunno why.Give me ummm 4 days. S n i c k e r s  7 Days! 18:00, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it a lot more. And the line art is messed up at the eye area. FrostHeart 03:07, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Like I said, I'll try to blur it more. S n i c k e r s   7 Days! 19:45, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  S n i c k e r s   3 Days! Whoohoo! 19:46, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Pixlr is fine and is in my opinion better the GIMP once you know how to use it properly. I'll make a tutorial in a day or so showing you how. xD For the image: Blur the hgihlights some more. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  17:06, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Will do. $ Coolstar  $  19:50, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Needs to be blurred and smudged some more to look like her elder and warrior image, try going for a smoother effect :) Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 00:17, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Rrrr. Pixlr froze when I opened it.Not again. =( I'll keep trying to get it to work. ~ Blue Lightning Strikes! I'm so shocked  11:42, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Snickers Oh the simpleness of simple stuff  13:10, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the eye line art and I think this will be ready. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:09, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Where...Oh never mind, I see.Will do. Snickers Oh the simpleness of simple stuff  21:16, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

ReuploadedGol den thorn Epic! 11:51, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

She's beautiful! --  Sky dragon Ride the wind 23:31, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! *blushes* Snickers

Comments? Gol den thorn Epic! 14:07, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome! Just add some more highlights! :Sun spirit  ☮ 05:01, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I have highlights.... Snickers!

The highlights look fine to me but the eye still bothers me. I think it's the way you colored it. It looks too big. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  14:21, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed eye.I had an extra white space in it, that's why it looked weird. Gol den thorn Epic! 21:09, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Make the ear pink more visible. Icefall Icy Winds 22:07, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

The eye line art still isn't quite right. It looks like the pixels for the eye lash was moved up a bit. Can you try fixing that?-- Night s h i n e   R  05:47, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay! I'll have it done in a few minutes. OMG...You killed It! 12:23, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded OMG...You killed It!  12:38, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the fur. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! Here comesSUMMER!   23:36, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it smaller. I agree with Mouse, lighten the fur. Icefall Icy Winds 22:32, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

You're right, the ear pink out turned weird.... Z Nightsong  01:06, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Z  Nightsong  13:29, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Add some tail shading. I also can't see the eye color very well. Dark hallows 23:39, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Z  Nightsong 17:16, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be more triangular and the darker patches need blending more. -- Sandy star 12:15, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I won't be able to work on this 'till the 27th.Please don't decline.  Z  Nightsong 00:43, June 22, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Nevermind about my previous comment, I was thinking about July.  Z  Nightsong 17:08, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Gorsestar (W) For Approval
So here he is. He's my first one, so I know he's not that great, but what do you think? Let me know if this is under the limit; I think it is, but I'm not sure. Skydragon 18:13, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Wow this is really good perhaps where you put the stripe below his ear you should've put another stripe as on his leader image he has two grey stripes either side. Hope that helps :D :)Wildear~101:) 18:32, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good but the file needs to be named Gorsestar.warrior.png. Jpg files dont have the best quality and look pixilated. Besides that darken the shading a bit. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:28, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Very nice :) Thicken the stripes a bit, in addition to what Wildear and Ashshadow have said  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 19:49, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Is this better? Skydragon 21:30, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''It still looked funny to me, so I fixed it again. Skydragon 18:24, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add a few more stripes on his haunch and tail and thicken them a bit-- Night s h i n e   R  01:51, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I don't think he has any more stripes on his tail in his leader image. Is this better though? Skydragon Ride the wind.... 02:42, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Move the tail stripes up more. Lengthen the stripes on his haunch a bit more-- Night s h i n e   R  16:32, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Lengthened the stripes and moved the ones on his tail. Skydragon Ride the wind.... 17:52, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more and this should be ready-- Night s h i n e   R  06:33, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Darkened the shading. Skydragon Listen...the wind is singing... 14:53, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

He's very nice, Skydragon! There's just one thing that's bugging me; on the first tabby stripe going down the back, there's a pixel that sits in between the Y fold. Does that make any sense to you? Holly dapple  01:54, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

It bugged me too, but I looked at the leader image and it was in the leader image, so... -- Snickers

Oh, okay, then. Sorry. If anything, brighten the highlights on the face. If you don't use highlights (I don't think they're neccesary), then don't bother, but it looks like you do, so maybe try that. Holly dapple  03:22, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I added a highlight to the face.  Sky dra gon    Follow the wind...  14:46, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

This may just be my moniter but I can barely see the shading. Can you darken it more. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  18:16, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''darkened shading.  Sky dragon Ride the wind 18:35, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Try changing the color of the ear pink to a more darker color, like on Ashfoot. This looks really nice! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 14:02, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Is that better? It's not darker, but it's closer to Ashfoot's.  Sky dragon Ride the wind 14:50, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think that looks much better....can't really see anything else. Good job! =D -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:36, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes. Mo onp elt TM 23:15, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, it matches the leader image. I think it looks fine.  Mo us  et  al  on  !!  Here comesSUMMER!  23:20, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'm gonna be gone until about the 20th of this month, and I won't be able to work on him. Please don't delete him. Thanx!-- Whisper on the wind   Skydragon  03:20, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know...I think it needs more stripes. Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 03:27, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like his leader image. I tink it has the right number of stripes; you can't even see the entire side of his body in the leader image anyway. Kaoru  Hitachiin  21:43, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

He does need to add a couple more stripes to the (our) right foreleg. <font color="#009900">  M  o  o  n  p  e  l  t   1786 22:06, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about that, Moonpelt, because I've been working on Gorsestar's deputy image, so I've been studying the leader image very hard, and I haven't seen any other stripes on that foreleg, though Skydragon does need to add one of those funny spots to it. Holly dapple  15:41, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it bigger. Lighten the stripes a tad. Icefall Icy Winds 22:32, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hi everybody, I'm back! I added the spot on his foot and darkened the ear, but I didn't do anything to the stripes because I used the same color as on his leader image. Let me know if I still need to lighten them! -- Whisper on the wind    Skydragon  19:22, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'd lighten them a tinsy bit, I think the shading makes them look too dark. Thicken the stripe on his front leg farthest from us, and darken the shading on both the front legs Night  Fall 00:39, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mothwing (W) For Approval
I couldn't edit the Reservations Table... Could someone do that for me? Thanks. Comments? --<font color="#009900">Mo<font color="#00FF00">onp<font color="#009900">elt  <font color="#009900"><font color="#00FF00">TM&lt;/font&gt; 12:51, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get it. $ Coolstar  $  12:55, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! Amazing! Awesome! I love it! Make the ear pink more visible though. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  13:43, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the markings a bit-- Night s h i n e   R  16:25, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

I used the same exact color. <font color="#009900">Mo <font color="#00FF00">onp <font color="#009900">elt <font color="#00FF00">TM 01:30, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and sharpen the markings-- Night s h i n e   R  01:34, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried.... Comments? <font color="#009900">Mo <font color="#00FF00">onp <font color="#009900">elt <font color="#00FF00">TM 18:07, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripe more on her haunch next to her tail (right where they meet).

Reuploaded Please remmeber to sign your posts with four ~. Better? <font color="#009900">Mo <font color="#00FF00">onp <font color="#009900">elt <font color="#00FF00">TM 15:51, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights on the tail look like they're in the wrong direction; for the light source to be the same for all of the image, the highlights on the tail should be on the tail-tip and a little bit below on the side that they're on now, but not too much. Also, there's some pixels of too light of a color on the front legs. $  Ice thr oat   %  Exploring  through the   galaxies... 02:05, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? <font color="#009900">Mo <font color="#00FF00">onp <font color="#009900">elt <font color="#00FF00">TM 14:35, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

There is an outline of light pixels on the right side of the tail. Add a few more markings of the dark golden onto her haunch and shoulder.-- Night s h i n e   R  16:20, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reploaded Better? <font color="#009900">  M  o  o  n  p  e  l  t   1786 17:50, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Great! Just darken the ear pink a tad. S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 07:22, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? <font color="#009900">  M  o  o  n  p  e  l  t   1786 15:18, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear that is farther from us a bit.-- Night s h i n e   R  05:49, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

That's an effect of the highlights I think. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   23:33, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on her tail. Icefall Icy Winds 22:29, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnpelt Alt Apprentice - For Approval
Can someone redo the highlights for me? It's not fixing. Also, I'm probably not going to work on this until Saturday...unless I'm lucky any old time. -- Quailflight 11:07, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Hurrah for pixlr's color replacement tool! -- Quailflight 11:23, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights some. The ones on her haunch and shoulder look white. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:42, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

That's the problem. I need some help with them. So I would like someone to correct them for me. Quailflight 23:23, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I was able to fix the bottom highlight, but could someone give me help with the top? -- Quailflight 10:45, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Help and comments? I'm the world's most horrible charart person. I don't know what happened with my style. Quailflight 08:14, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Comments? -- Quailflight 09:28, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading some more. If you can't do it I'll be happy to help. Also, make the earpink brighter but not too bright. I can't see it. :) Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  16:31, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

I'll do the earpink, but the highlights are killing me. Quailflight 11:07, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I think Birchy's helping me with the highlights. Quailflight 08:56, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Kay I'll blur the highlights for you Quail. Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  16:44, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Birchy. Quailflight 21:12, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. Icefall Icy Winds 22:29, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Birchy's supposed to do it, because I'm using pixlr, but hasn't done it yet. I'll have to really work on it if Birchy can't do it. Quailflight 07:46, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Quail, you're just going to have to do it yourself because you put this image up and it's not fair to sit waiting on Birchy to do it. Just keep at it and you'll get it right eventually. Pixlr has a perfectly adequate blur tool if you know how to use it. You just need to practice. -- Sandy star 12:42, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Pebbleheart(W) For Approval
This is like...Horrible. Comments?<font color="Aquamarine">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Aquamarine"> Hail to the awesome WAGE! 01:59, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is great!! Just thicken the shading a lot so it is like his medicine cat image. Blur the stripes more-- Night s h i n e   R  02:03, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? GIMP is SO much better than Pixlr's blurring tool! <font color="Aquamarine">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Aquamarine"> Hail to the awesome WAGE! 22:51, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Perfect! This is really nice. :) Moontail  Me Rocks!  14:42, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand where your light source is from. Most images have the shading on the tail, for example, on the bottom. And, the shading needs serious blurring. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   18:50, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Sorry, it just doesn't blur anymore.<font color="Aquamarine">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Aquamarine"> Hail to the awesome WAGE! 20:23, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps darken the other side a little (the lighter one) so that it looks somewhat even? And the ear pink is too small. 雨 晶須  21:55, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred alot more. I can help if you'd like. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  14:42, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Ash :) I'd appreciate it. I spent like 5 minutes on blurring!<font color="Turqoise">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 02:27, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. I've blurred the shading some for you Sky. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan'''  19:39, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

I can't tell where the light source is coming from; on the shading of the body it's from one direction, and on the shading of the tail it's from another almost opposite. The light source needs to all be from one direction, so either change the shading on the body or the tail (probably easier on the tail). $  Ice thr oat   %  Exploring  through the   galaxies... 02:02, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more. Quailflight 07:58, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading is fine as is. It looks like the approved example and I always thought the light was coming from above. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  18:57, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made earpink bigger. Oh, and thanks Ash <font color="Turqoise">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 22:47, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. If they don't or won't blur, than use the smudge tool to get a similar effect. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   16:39, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and stripes. Icefall Icy Winds 22:28, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred stripes+shading <font color="Orange">Sky <font color="Orange">wish <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 00:19, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar (Ki) - For Approval


Yeah, well, can't say much about this one. Pretty bad, eh? SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 06:09, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

The tail looks odd. Try making it bend toward him. Make the stripes more v shaped like his leader image.-- Night s h i n e   R  06:25, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

He looks black on my screen. Maybe lighten him a bit? Skydragon Listen...the wind is singing... 14:54, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wow I haven't been on in soooo long... Anyway, he's a tad too dark, like Skydragon said, and I think there are a few gray pixels near the top of his tail (in background). 雨 晶須  21:15, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe thicken the top of his tail a bit. It looks mor squished than broken to me. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:45, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I've copied the colour from the rogue image, but if it isn't right, then I'll change it. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 13:47, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I don't exactly understand what you mean by bending the tail, and Ashshadow, how do I make it look broken? Sharpen the bend in the tail? Also, this can only be uploaded again after five - six days. See here. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 13:57, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

I just meant thicken the top part a little bit. It looks flatened rather than broken. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  14:26, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights on his chest and forepaws. Holly dapple  04:51, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 07:04, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I've noticed that the other images of Brokenstar. He Is a little bit lighter than that. S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 07:26, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I made a redline for what I meant about the tail. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:16, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and sharpen the stripes. Make the lineart on the tail a tad thicker. Icefall Icy Winds 22:27, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 06:44, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the highlight on the chest as it looks like a white smear. -- Sandy star 12:54, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 06:33, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Just saying I think the break in the tail might look better closer to his body. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 13:25, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstorm (D)- For Approval
Yay! Second charart! =) What should I do to improve it? <font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:09, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Her ear pink should be darker, shading needs to be blurred more, and her tail needs more shading. 雨 晶須  23:12, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Close the gaps in the shading and blur it more. Also add shading to the legs and tail. FrostCloud 23:14, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

This looks yellow as opposed to ginger. Try saturating her some Night  Fall 23:19, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, as stated above, and the ear pink needs to be moved more into the ear and lightened. Also, remember to put "For Approval" in the discussion title.  Mo us  et  al  on  !!  Here comesSUMMER!  14:14, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

The eye should be made like this: File:Eye Chart.png (see the warrior version), instead of the current eye. The saturation tool is a sponge located near the dodge and shading tools, so use that to saturate the pelt color and give it more of a ginger color. Define the ear pink some more, but not too much. The two hind paws should also have shading, and the top of the head. <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 15:35, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading and define the ear pink. Darken the shading on the tail, and add shading to the back paws, and muzzle to the top of the head. The ear not facing us should have shading, too. Ice fall 00:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 14:46, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Darken the shading on the main part of her body and darken the earpink. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  22:37, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well, could be just me, but I don't see any highlights. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 03:33, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights aren't needed. Blur the shading-- Night s h i n e   R  03:43, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:20, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Shadings needs to be blurred a bit more and make the ear pink more pinkish, this is good overall ;) Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 04:22, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 19:52, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more. --  Sky dragon Ride the wind 23:40, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shadings on the head.. Dawnleaf. Deputy of SnowClan  02:52, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 21:20, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

This is really sweet :) The back shading is very thick though, maybe thin it a bit? And maybe make the ear pink a bit pinker? On my computer, it looks very red. Brightfrost  of SunClan...  15:14, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. =) Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 16:05, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Comments?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:08, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a lot and blur the shading. The fur colour is a little bright, so I suggest saturating it a bit-- Night s h i n e   R  05:52, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

This may be my monitor, but the white pixel on the eye looks a dull, you might want to brighten it a bit. River pelt Heart of Amber 20:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think it might be your monitor, because it looks fine on mine... then again, I'm probably misunderstanding what your talking about. =) However, I did darken the ear pink and blurred the shading and saturated it; is it better? Oh, and by the way, I'm stuck in a summer school session from June 14th to June 25th, so I might have some difficulties getting on to work, but I should be able to. I'm going out of town after that though, and I won't have access to a computer very often, if at all.<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:21, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading. It still looks too neon orange coloured. Darken the ear pink-- Night s h i n e   R  23:24, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur it. Darken the image. Icefall Icy Winds 22:26, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:18, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Try desaturating it with the sponge.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Also darken the shading and earpink. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:51, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Did I darken the image too much?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:53, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Way too dark, and bright. It looks neon. Lighten it. Quailflight 20:55, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm really confused... how can something be both too dark and too bright at the same time?98.242.242.121 03:30, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, that was me... Sorry, forgot to log in! =) <font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 15:49, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think (I mean think) what Quailflight means is that the dark areas are too dark and the bright areas are too bright, catch my drift? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 16:13, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I understand, but if not... well, it's always fixable. =) Is this any better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:26, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd say it looks pretty good. =^.^= ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 13:23, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks neon, desaturate it some more. And I can hardly see the ear pink, lighten it some Night  Fall 21:16, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (A) - For Approval
There is one discussion, Cinderpelt123, so this should be under the limit. Comments/Criticism for Goldenflower? -- 雨 晶須  20:50, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit. Blur the chest shading. Darken haunch shading-- Night s h i n e   R  20:53, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah blur it a bit more as Nightshine said as the dark ginger looks a bit splotchy on my computer screen:)Wildear~101:) 13:14, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

The color looks kinda off with the dark splotches everywhere. Highlight the tail and muzzle more. FrostCloud 15:34, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Didn't she get a cut ear in battle training from Bluepaw?

Scarletwind 21:30, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like she has darker patches of fur on her pelt. Other then that its great :) Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 23:15, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Put a nick in the ear closest to us. Quailflight 08:40, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

The darker patches of fur are supposed to be shading, and I can't blur them any more. And yes, I'll add the nick in her ear. 雨 晶須  01:51, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

She looks slightly lumpy. Try blurring those dark parts more-- Night s h i n e   R  16:16, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I'll do that in a sec. 雨  晶須  22:04, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Is it better? I blurred the dark parts, but it didn't work so well so I lightened them. 雨 晶須  23:40, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Much better. Just blur the haunch shading a tiny bit more-- Night s h i n e   R  23:42, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Anything else to work on? 雨 晶須  00:04, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the back shading. Icefall Icy Winds 20:45, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

That is where the light source is coming from, so there should be no back shading. Darken the shading on the neck a tad then this should be ready-- Night s h i n e   R  05:54, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, okay, then lighten the ear pink a little. I can't really see it. Icefall Icy Winds 12:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks fine on my screen-- Night s h i n e   R  23:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Ice, it looks a bit dark to me. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   23:30, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Night, it looks fine on my computer. If I lighten it any more you probably won't be able to see it. 雨 晶須  23:06, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I darkened the shading on her neck. 雨 晶須  23:12, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I darkened the shading on her neck. 雨 晶須  23:12, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

The only thing I see is to maybe blur the shading a bit, it looks a bit bumpy. And thicken the line art on her torn ear Night  Fall 00:40, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Stonetooth (D)~For approval


Okay now I look at this I can now see some major changes but here he is improvements please?

Edit how do you change the pxl on it so I can get it 127x155 pxl I'm not sure if its my computer or not...

Oh yeah thisis the biggest size I could get him....:)Wildear~101:) 13:12, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

First,he's a tabby, second, sorry, but it's over the limit.<span style="Font-family:AR Cena;Background:#567890;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raidus:0.20em; color:darkblue">Gol den <span style="Font-family:AR Cena;Background:#567890;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raidus:0.20em; color:darkblue">thorn Epic! 14:00, June 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * For future reference Wildear, remember to sign with 4 ~ and to get a bigger picture of the blank you have to right click the blanks and select open in new window or new tab. That way you'll have the full size of the blank. With the galleries installed, it takes away the feature of copying the direct size of the image. Stated before this is over the limit so this will have to be declined.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 18:44, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok sorry I thought this might've been ok but I must've counted it wrong...yeah I realised my computer must be wrong in a way I'll take your advice to heart Shimmerpool.:)Wildear~101:) 21:27, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok sorry I thought this might've been ok but I must've counted it wrong...yeah I realised my computer must be wrong in a way I'll take your advice to heart Shimmerpool.:)Wildear~101:) 21:27, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Wildear; this can stay here as two images were just approved and there is now room. But for future reference, please count more carefully. Do what Shimmer said and redo the image in the full-sized blank and make him a tabby cat. Also, please put a link in your signature by typing Wildear~101 into your preferences. --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 00:20, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks Bramble I'll get it reuploaded for tomorrow:)Wildear~101:) 18:26, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED~ Better? It was what I could at short notice I got art project so I fitted it in anyways!:)Wildear~101:) 19:59, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

It's not a bad tabby but it needs to look more like his other images here. Also make the earpink more triangular. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:01, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby markings need to be bigger like his other images, and make the earpink more pinkish and blur it some more. Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 14:11, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded~Ear pink made more triangular thickened stripes and blurred some more also add some more colour on his haunches anything else?:)Wildear~101:) 19:49, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

He has to many stripes and his color is off. Try taking the color from this--->. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:11, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED~Gave him less stripes and gave him a more brownish grey affect licke his elder image. Like Ash said...anything elses? :)Wildear~101:) 16:18, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby stripes need to strech out father like this: Hope that helps!. Dawnleaf. Deputy of SnowClan  01:47, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Okey dokey I'll get it done for saturday as I am busy a few days:)Wildear~101:) 21:11, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Make sure the stripes don't over lap the line art. Fix the eye and darken the ear pink-- Night s h i n e   R  01:36, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

He still looks closer to gray to me than gray-brownish like or whatever he is. I think lightening him should do or unsaturating.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 20:14, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay made him look more the colour he is made sure the lines didn't overlap fixed the eye and darkened ear pink. So anything else? :)Wildear~101:) 13:38, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

The eye still isn't correct. Look at my tutorial to see what the eye should look like-- Night s h i n e   R  23:43, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Dawn leaf The Epicness Of This Epic Signature! 14:30, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, darken the stripes and blur the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 20:41, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Also add a pupil in the eye. Icefall Icy Winds 20:41, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I've sttarted already I'll put it up tomorrow Wildear~101  17:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken/blur the shading-- Dark hallows 23:05, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I have done it just have virus on computerso when thats cleared up it will be on sorry its just my time on the computer will be restricted else... Wildear~101 18:49, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Fernpelt (A) - For approval
This wasn't too hard. → •Maple  fern•  ←  00:31, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Nice highlights! Just lighten the ear pink to make it more visible. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 00:55, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes don't really look like her warrior image. Lighten the eye colour. Did you take the colours from her warrior image?-- Night s h i n e   R  01:03, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the color could be a little darker but I think the stripes look fine. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  10:47, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes thinner and sharper. Ice fall 00:51, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on his haunch could use some more bluring along with his front legs. Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 14:12, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Try to lighten her ear pink. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:07, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

She's beautiful, Maplefern, good work! The ear pink could be paler, but maybe in the same section of reddish-pink. The shoulder highlight needs bluring, and the stripes on her haunch look too blurry to me. Other than that, it' really good! Holly dapple  22:58, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined, Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:22, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I was busy this week. → •Maple  fern•  ←  11:57, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed all things. → •Maple  fern•  ←  12:12, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

The base pelt color still looks a little light. Darken it a bit more. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:37, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is barely visible. Darken it. Icefall Icy Winds 22:25, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darkened all that needed to be done. → •Maple  fern•  ←  20:20, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? -- Sandy star 20:23, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink. Add a stripe coming out of the eye like on her warrior image.-- Night s h i n e   R  19:24, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Done. → •Maple  fern•  ←  07:18, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Repeating, Comments Before Approval? Night Fall 21:15, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more peach coloured like her warrior image and darken the highlights. They look a little golden-ish-- Night s h i n e   R  21:47, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I find the earpink on her warrior image too peachy. •Maple fern•  07:09, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Maplefern; I've nominated Fernpelt for a slight change of ear pink color in the tweak week nominations. I would lighten this ear pink a bit though Night  Fall 16:28, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerstar(K)-for approval
Hope this goes better than the last time I think i could do a bit more for the tabby stripes on his shoulder... Scarletwind 02:03, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Er it's good but this is the 36 but you can only have 35 Birdy 02:12, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, It's okay, but the stripes look a little bit unreal. Blur the shading and I de-thumbed it. SunspiritThe Way the Breeze Whispers… 08:30, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

ok then make the ear pink and the nose Birdy 11:44, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes some more and make the ear pink more pinkish. Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 14:13, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

A bit more like this?

Scarletwind 14:19, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

A bit more.. Dawnleaf. Deputy of SnowClan  02:49, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Third time's the charm... I hope, I hope...

Scarletwind 22:50, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Don't rename the file every time. Just re-upload it. There is an outline of black around the ear pink and it is touching the line art-- Night s h i n e   R  23:20, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I'll get it eventually... I hope.. I hope...

Scarletwind 23:21, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me or is that ear pink purple? It is on my computer. :<font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki">Sun <font color="#FFCC33" style="background:Khaki">spirit <font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki"> ☮ 09:09, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

It does look kind of purple...  Sky dragon Ride the wind 18:16, June 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * They look like the shading for a black or white cat which we don't need for Tigerkit. Just get the pink from his other images and it'll be fine. Also it looks like you made an outline for the ears, heh, I notice small things. Could you get rid of those and just blur the ear pink?--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 20:11, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more if you can. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  22:29, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hope this looks OK, I'm going away tomorrow and I won't be able to fix it for a few days

Scarletwind 01:14, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

When you return, make the ear pink central and a more pale, peachy-pink colour like the one on his leader image, (it might be an idea to take the colour from the image itself). Also, the stripes on his sides look seriously clumpy compared to his other images, and the highlights on his stomach and face look like patches. :3 Sorry for being so critical though, he's a hard character to do. Look at his other images for references. Have fun wherever you're going away to! Brightfrost of SunClan...  19:38, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for all the advice!:) I'll get on it right away!

Scarletwind 14:27, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hope this works! =^.^=

Scarletwind 18:26, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

This looks much better. Add nose color. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:39, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and stripes and add nose color. Icefall Icy Winds 22:23, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

You might want to check the tutorials for how to do the eye. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   22:48, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

De-thumbed it again. Make sure you don't leave it in thumbnail. It looks messy. Other than that, It's good! Make the ear pink more pink! S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 07:33, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much, mentors! I hope I can one day be as good a mentor to another apprentice! Scarletwind 02:18, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

We acually don't do mentors and apprentices anymore, as it was a bit too inconveniant in the past. As for the image, desaturate the ear pink and the nose, they look too hot pink. Then blur the shading and stripes Night  Fall 00:43, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

By mentoring, I meant more like advice. I'll get on the image right away!

ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 02:16, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Like this? I'll keep at it until Leaf-bare if needed!

(Okay... Maybe not that long)

ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 02:26, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Whiskers up for aproval (again)
Okay, I tried to make it better, here it is I ran the burn tool along some more-as you told me too. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 17:01, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading looks nice. Try making the ear pink a little bigger and darkening it up a bit, like on Reedwhisker or Breezepelt. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 18:25, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot. I don't really see any-- Night s h i n e   R  23:29, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I darkened the shading a little, and I darkened the ear-pink. Better? Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 16:33, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

The whole thing still needs to be darkened. It looks like a dark gray cat on my computer. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:17, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's dark-grey on my computer, I think you should darken it. :<font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki">Sun <font color="#FFCC33" style="background:Khaki">spirit <font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki"> ☮ 09:08, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yea darken it so it looks more black. <font color="#009900">Mo <font color="#00FF00">onp <font color="#009900">elt <font color="#00FF00">TM 18:03, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Should I run the burn tool along it or use another colour comepletely? Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 16:24, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

The burn tool should work. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  16:33, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the entire image and darken the shading/add shading. Icefall Icy Winds 22:22, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

 Reupladed -I used the burn tool a little more. Anything else I can do to improve? Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 19:19, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken it more. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  22:26, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Amberclaw (W)- For Approval
I'm sorry that I'm one over the limit, but I've been waiting for a couple of days now. =P Anyway, comments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 01:02, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is over the limit so it will be declined-- Night s h i n e   R  01:07, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Nightshine. I guess I just got impatient. =P I won't do it again. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 01:40, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

It can stay now. Blur the back shading. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  16:19, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, guys. I feel bad about it now. Anyway, I tried to blur the back shading more, but the blur tool on Pixlr is a little iffy. Is this better or does it need more? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 13:53, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

If your having trouble with blur tool reduce the hardness a bit I ussually have it 41 for minor adjustments or even fifty for big shadings and i use the size 9 to go blur my things. Try doing that it might work :)Wildear~101:) 21:16, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that seemed to help. Thank you for the advice! =) Is this any better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 00:33, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken it a bit- it seems awfully bright. Other than that darken the ear pink a smidge and maybe add a little highlight nearer to the front leg so that it has a defined shoulder. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   16:37, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 12:00, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 13:20, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit. -- H A W K T A L O N        ö 15:22, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 18:39, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the face highlight a little. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:29, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 20:14, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Move the shoulder highlight up and to the left a bit-- Night s h i n e   R  20:22, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the muzzle highlight. Icefall Icy Winds 20:27, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:59, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Whitethroat (R) - For Approval
Well, I'm not sure how this went. Shruggy talk 07:07, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's good, except you'll notice that there's a black flick on the white chest, maybe lighten the ear pink a bit, but otherwise good! SunspiritThe Way the Breeze Whispers… 07:15, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

The Black flick, is part of the line art. ;) Shruggy talk 08:56, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh Sorry! Laughs SunspiritThe Way the Breeze Whispers… 08:58, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Might just be me Shruggy, but did you pick pure black for the colour? It needs to be light black, dark grey. I can't see the lineart. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  11:47, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

No, he didn't. This is well done Shruggy. Blur the white, and lighten the pelt color a tad. Icefall Icy Winds 12:06, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I also added shading to the back ear. :) Shruggy talk 13:55, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I was on a school comp and it looked really black, it dosen't now. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  15:36, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 20:21, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Shruggy talk 08:29, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Looks Great Shruggy! I've been looking at it, couldn't find anything that bad! :<font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki">Sun <font color="#FFCC33" style="background:Khaki">spirit <font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki"> ☮ 08:35, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Is it possible for you to smudge the white more? Like a fade in? And I think it would look a tiny bit better it there was some shading on the white part on the chest. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 17:46, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

The white on the chest seems awfully straight, I agree with Warrior, just use the smudge tool and then blur to make it. . . um. . . rounder. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   03:11, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any better? Shruggy talk 11:13, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

The tail looks very dark. Make the pupil in the eye a bit smaller. Blur the white transitions-- Night s h i n e   R  23:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Icefall Icy Winds 21:37, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Great! Just add some more highlights. S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 23:02, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are acually optional, you don't have to add them if you don't want too. Night Fall 00:59, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The Pupil is as small as it can be. and I blured the ear pink and white. Shruggy talk 16:48, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Categorizing Chararts
Hi all! I would like to suggest to project coordinators to place all approved charart in the relevant image categories when approving. This will not only keep it more organized; it will also help in making statistics, running scripts, keeping track of things etc.

I'm currently manually going through all approved images to update their categories if needed; it will be done soon, but for new images, the approver should do it. Note: only approved images should go in these, do not add declined or user chararts here.

I hope this doesn't come down the wrong way; I'm not trying to act as a leader and tell people what to do or such; it's just a proposal for keeping things together. I hope you won't be angry with me. :)

Kind regards, Helixtalk 18:19, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with this. It sounds ideal. What do you think, Bramble??  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  20:15, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I've been meaning to do this in any case. It's a good idea to have our images categorized so they can be kept track of, and less work to do later. I think everyone else will agree as well. And Helix; don't worry yourself over nothing, it's merely a suggestion you thought up and proposed. Thank you. --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 05:05, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Bramble, many thanks for your kind reply. I'm currently done with letters A-H and hopefully I will finish them by the end of next week. I also made a table here listing the approved chararts by type, by counting the number of files in the respective categories. Helixtalk 05:40, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's a good idea. Icefall Icy Winds 22:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree :) I'd love to help, but I'm not exactly sure how the whole thing works...would you mind explaining? Night  Fall 21:03, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Hi all. I finally finished the work, and this table reveals we have 931 approved chararts. Nice work everyone. :) Remember, when approving a new image, it is advised to insert it in the image categories so we could keep track of the number (and the images in general). Also, many thanks to Bramble, Insane and Sandy who were involved in the charart renaming and reinserting process in the past weeks. Kind regards, Helixtalk 18:21, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Helix, and thanks for all your hard work, as well. :) Nightfall; categorizing an image is just like categorizing any regular page. Use the add category tab at the bottom and type whatever the art is, i.e: 'Warrior Character Images' would be the category for a warrior, and 'Kit Character Images' would be for a kit, etc. Does that make sense? --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 18:34, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, thanks :) Night  Fall 00:44, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Pineclaw (W)- For Approval
I made a re-do. Accidentally erased old message here XD Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  21:16, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Not bad. His earpink is a bit lopsided and his eye is a bit neon. Fix those and maybe add/brighten highlights or shorten the shading. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  14:14, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed earpink, dampened eye. Brightened highlights and blurred well. Comments? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  14:22, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger or shorten the shading again. Make the ear pink bigger and darken it-- Night s h i n e   R  16:13, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, The one on the left is the same one, just I edited it. The one on the right is a whole new one. Which one is best and I should keep edititng?? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  17:33, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Both are nice, but the one on the right looks more normal to me. On the muzzle, if you choose the one on the right, the highlights need to be brightened, and the haunch and shoulder highlights need blurring. The shading on his back could be darkened as well. Holly dapple  19:29, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hope it looks good! First time I actually did highlights like that... Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  21:16, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

They look good for your first time. Just blur them some more. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  01:07, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlithgts and back shading more. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   03:10, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights and blur. Blur the shading more. Icefall Icy Winds 22:16, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I might be mistaken but I thought his description said he had a torn ear. Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 01:29, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It does now but it didn't always. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  12:52, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:36, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh Sorry. Pixlr hasn't been working, but it's all fixed :D I'll get right onto it! >:3 Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  14:58, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dappletail (A) - For Approval
Here's Dappletail as an apprentice. And on that note, I'm back for the 5th time! xD I'm not sure I like the shading, so what are your comments? <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 17:49, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, this is over the limit. Wait until the number of charats go down to 34 or less. The image will be declined. Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  18:07, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Nightfall have this reserved...? Icefall Icy Winds 19:35, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, she has Rabbittail reserved-- Night s h i n e   R  19:39, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back, Warrior. This won't be declined, it's under the limit. Image-wise, this doesn't really look like any of Dappletail's other images. This image has patches, and the others have stripes. Also, I can't really see the ear pink, and the shading on the muzzle is too dark to see the lineart. $  Ice thr oat   %  Exploring  through the   galaxies... 01:45, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add stripes, this looks like mottled/patches. Lighten the ear pink. Icefall Icy Winds 22:15, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  12:53, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Whitetail (A) For Approval
My first apprentice this is the 34 this is another white cat fail so yeah comments?  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 14:02, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add earpink. Kaoru  Hitachiin  14:27, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Make her eyes greener, and give her a pinkish tint like her warrior image. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   15:23, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Er it wont work its either too white or too pink besides isint she a white cat.....  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 16:37, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? Just take the ear pink colour from her warrior image and add it on here. Blur the chest and back shading a bit more-- Night s h i n e   R  17:44, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

On her warrior image she has a pink tinge and my concern was shes a white cat not a cream cat  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 19:16, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded added ear pink and blurred shading on chest and back

Lighten the ear pink and blur it. Remember to sign with four tildes ~ -- Night s h i n e   R  19:39, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Just use the color dropper like I did for the color. It worked on my Whitetail. I just withdrew mine. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   20:30, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Er how do i get the pinish tinge on mine  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 21:05, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Select a pink color, go to the bucket on pixlr, change the opacity to around 10 or 20, whichever you think is better, and fill in the whole image, making sure it is all even. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   00:28, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added pinkish tinge and made ear pink more lighter  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 01:14, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

You got the color perfect. Maybe blur the haunch shading. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   22:17, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred shading as much as much as i could  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 22:25, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, just lighten the back shading a little. Icefall Icy Winds 20:37, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Er how do i lighten it?  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 00:52, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Go over it with the dodge tool, and maybe set the dodge's strength down a bit to 30 or 20. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   03:09, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is it ok?  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 19:29, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit more-- Night s h i n e   R  06:20, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

There is a spot of dark shading on her haunch. Blurr that.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 21:26, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and haunch shading. Icefall Icy Winds 22:11, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thats as far as it will blur and i will do the haunch shading as soon as i can  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 22:47, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pin more-- Night s h i n e   R  01:37, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thats as far as it will go the pixlrs blurring tool is bad  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 17:44, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Would you like me to see if I can blur it some more? Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  23:50, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sure but how will you do that someday i might need to do that too  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 01:25, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Wetfoot (A) - For Approval
I put this up for approval again. I really hope it's under the limit. So anyways, here's my first Charart. Comments? I am also really clumsy when it comes to counting things. I counted all the images up for approval five times and I got 34. If I missed one, please don't get angry! It's just that I have terrible counting skills when there are a lot of things.

Cherryfur123 17:55, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's really good, it's under the limit if you don't count the discussions. Anyways, he looks fine. Lighten the stripes, blur the shading and highlights, fill in the white pixels on the tail, make the ear pink bigger, and add a pupil into the eye. He's very good for your first try! Icefall Icy Winds 01:00, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

De-thumbed it. It's great for your first try. Just do the things that Icefall said. S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 05:13, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are very bright. Darken them a lot and blur the shading. The ear pink should be centered in the ear, so move it to the right more. There are a few light coloured stripes on the end of the tail. Add more stripes lower down on his forearms.-- Night s h i n e   R  05:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Better?

Cherryfur123 12:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I added the pupil in the eye.

Cherryfur123 19:11, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I took it out of thumbnail for you. Darken the highlights more and add a few more stripes onto the haunch-- Night s h i n e   R  21:14, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I darkened the highlights and added some more stripes.

Nightshine, thanks for taking it out of thumbnail for me. Can someone tell me how so I could do it myself and not trouble anyone else to do it?

Cherryfur123 00:47, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

When you edit the page, click modify and then select Full Size. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   01:21, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the tail stripes more and darken the highlights a bit more-- Night s h i n e   R  21:07, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Better? Cherryfur123 21:44, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 22:09, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Blurred ear pink and darkened shading. Anything else? Cherryfur123 11:49, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading a little and add some to to the ear farthest from us. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Thickened the shading and added some to the ear. What else? Cherryfur123 I'm under your control, as long as you give me candy! 00:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC) 21:40, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (D) - For Approval
This should be under the limit. Which is better? I used a different shading method for the second one-- Night s h i n e   R  02:56, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm...I'd say the second one? I don't know they're both really beautiful. <font color="Orange">Sky <font color="Orange">wish <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 03:25, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. I say the first one looks better. But if you pick any one, the shading is really dark. I'd say lighten it and brighten/add a highlight on the muzzle. Icefall Icy Winds 17:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I like the first one. But I would add that the shading could be blurred a touch. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   23:10, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I used the first one and fixed up the shading-- Night s h i n e   R  23:16, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and the shading still is really dark on the back. Lighten it to match the rest of the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 22:09, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded lightened shading a bit and blurred ear pink-- Night s h i n e   R  01:35, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think the midriff shading is a little dark. I would lighten that shading some Night  Fall 00:57, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded lightened shading-- Night s h i n e   R  01:11, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Should I add a bushy tail?-- Night s h i n e   R  17:28, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd say yes, as then that's one less thing to redo in Tweak Week. -- Sandy star 12:56, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I changed him to long haired-- Night s h i n e   R  18:48, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

maybe make the white chest extend up a bit farther. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  23:48, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded extended white underbelly-- Night s h i n e   R  03:10, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the white transition. But wait, does that mean we'll have to redo all of Hawkfrost's images? I'm very fond of his warrior image Night  Fall 03:19, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is there a way he could be shorthaired and just have a bushy tail? Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#00ff11">Here comesSUMMER!   15:00, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred white transition. Should I make him have only a bushy tail?-- Night s h i n e   R  21:51, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Shorthaired cats rarely have bushy tails. All of his images wouldn't need to be completely redone. They would only need a few minor edits. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  22:01, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. I think he should be short-haired with a bushy tail. Icefall Icy Winds 22:06, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred ear pink-- Night s h i n e   R  22:12, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Rushpaw Alt (A)~For approval
Okay I don't think that this is over the limit, but tell me if it is. I tried to make it look like the male apprentice image, so how's does it look? River pelt Heart of Amber 20:09, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

It looks great but this is the tom blank. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:11, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

It's also Icethroat's image Night  Fall 20:14, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I put the wrong one up. =P Here's the real one! River pelt Heart of Amber 20:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Darken the tail stripes and darken the haunch highlight a bit-- Night s h i n e   R  21:05, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Done! River pelt Heart of Amber 21:45, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink-- Night s h i n e   R  21:46, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. Very good. Darken the chest shading. Icefall Icy Winds 21:49, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

The head stripe looks odd, could you shorten it? Dark hallows 22:53, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay I fixed the headstripe, darkened the chest shading, and darkened the ear pink. Anything else? River pelt Heart of Amber 11:32, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a bit too reddish. Change to a more pinker color, but not too pink :) 雨  晶須  01:03, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''do you think i should make the ear pink a bit pinker colored? River pelt Heart of Amber 15:44, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Just a tiny bit. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  23:44, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Done. Anything else? Oh and thanks for the nice comments! River pelt Heart of Amber 00:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a tiny bit. Icefall Icy Winds 12:06, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Shellheart Alt (D)- For Approval
Hi! This is Shellheart as an alternate she-cat. He/she is deputy. I hope you like her! S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 05:17, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Good Job Sunspirit! Maybe just blur the shading a bit more. River pelt Heart of Amber 11:39, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Its over the limit

No it isn't.There are 3 discussions and a declined image. Z Nightsong  13:23, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Is this my image with just an eye lash added? Or did you make it from scratch? I need to know, because if it is just a tweaked version of mine; there really isn't any reason for it to go through this whole process again :) If you did make this from scratch, then just disregard everything I've said xD Night  Fall 16:18, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

It is exactly the same with an eyelash. Should it be made from scratch?-- Night s h i n e   R  19:34, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so. It's not like Sunspirit is trying to use this for a completly different cat. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:41, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Icefall Icy Winds 20:26, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I did add the eyelash in. I though it would be better not to add the changes in. If I should start it from scratch, I can if you would like. I'll blur the shading. S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 20:52, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh no, this is fine :) I guess I can just go ahead and put the CBA on this in a little while, as it's already been approved :) Night  Fall 21:01, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh Yay! This is technically my first charart... xD Thanks Nightfall, and I'll ask permission next time! Sorry! S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 21:05, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, it's fine :) Night  Fall 21:12, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Comments Before Approval? Night Fall 21:13, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Tallpoppy (A) - For Approval
Well...Here she is. Since some people said I needed work on my art, I tried doing this kind of tabby style. Not too proud, but a bit. Comments? Icefall Icy Winds 21:18, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink more. Darken the stripes a bit-- Night s h i n e   R  21:32, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Defined Ear Pink, darkened stripes. Icefall Icy Winds 21:37, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

* blows kisses* Beautiful Ice! You can wipe those comments clean off of your brain. Blur the back shading on the haunch a touch. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   23:35, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Mouse. :) Blurred back shading on the haunch. Icefall  Icy Winds 23:38, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink- Dark hallows 23:44, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Lightened ear pink. Icefall Icy Winds 00:03, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

This is lovely Ice =) I think the pelt needs to be slightly darker to match the other images but the shading is nicely done -- Sandy star 20:26, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Sand. Darkened pelt color. Icefall Icy Winds 20:28, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

All I'd say is do the ear a bit more. Like add more pink to it so it can easily be seen. Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 19:36, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Um....could you please explain? Like....darken or lighten? Icefall Icy Winds 23:31, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I think maybe what Dappleclaw is saying is to define the ear pink a bit more. Correct me if I'm wrong though Night  Fall 00:36, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Or maybe make it bigger. Perhaps both.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:38, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Defined the ear pink. Icefall Icy Winds 00:39, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I can't find anything else wrong with this, great job Ice :) Comments Before Approval? Night  Fall 00:43, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnyspots (E) - For Approval
There are several discussions so this should be under the limit. Anywho, here is my first elder for PCA. An epic fail, if you ask me. My little depression is meddling with my art skills. =( lol Mo    us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   01:50, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Thicken the stripes and darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 02:06, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

i sorta think the fur at the ear should be stickin up more rather than flat...ish so maybe fix that, other than the tufty ears great job x3bracken- 02:43, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, nice tabby stripes, Mousetalon! Could you make the ear pink a little more triangular? I can hardly see your highlights, so brighten them a bit, and blur the shading on the back and darken all shading, though not too much, particularly near the base of his tail, his forepaws, and under his chin. Good job! Holly dapple  04:51, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''The blank didn't give me room to change the ears. Okay, anything else? Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   17:12, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

This looks really good, Mouse. Blur the shading and highlights some. $  Ice thr oat   %  Exploring  through the   galaxies... 22:08, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred and added some texture to the fur. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   23:17, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes should be lighter. Because on the deputy image, the stripes are gray, here, the stripes are black. I also think they should be thickened more. Icefall Icy Winds 23:19, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I lightened the whole thing. I think, personally, that the stripes are fine. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   15:05, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks too light now. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:21, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   22:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit and lighten the stripes a bit. The ear tufts don't look right. Thicken the line art more. Lighten his muzzle-- Night s h i n e   R  22:13, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Pikepaw - For Approval


There were lots of convo's so this should be under the limit! :) 1st charart to! Raffyjack123 17:58, June 19, 2010 (UTC) De-thumbed it. Make it a png.It's really nice!  Z  Nightsong 18:00, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Urm...it's not letting me :( Can someone tell me why?? I'm a bit new to this...1st Charart!!!! Raffyjack123 18:09, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks Bramble! I made the highlights better to! anything else??? Raffyjack123 22:24, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

When you add the image onto the page, make sure to take out the |thumb in the coding, or else it will show in a gray box, or thumbnail, which we don't want. Other than that this is very well done. I don't see anything wrong with it. Nice job. <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 22:35, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok...sorry Raffyjack123 19:59, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else??? Raffyjack123 18:25, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Relax, it's only been a day. People will comment when they get time. Anyways, make the ear pink bigger and darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 19:06, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Raggedstar (D) - For Approval
Heeeeeres Raggedstar! This is under the limit, so coments? Ringo  Starr  13:00, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't he already have a deputy image? Or is this for Tweak Week?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 13:03, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

This was never approved, and it was my image (this one) thats on his article. I have no idea how it got there. Ringo  Starr  13:04, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It was a coding issue which I have fixed. -- Sandy star 13:06, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. I see.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 13:08, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Now that that issue been cleared up, any comments? Ringo  Starr  19:22, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a tiny bit bigger. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:10, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken/add the shading, I can't see it very well. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 22:55, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Songbird (Q) - For Approval


This is my first Charart so I really like it! But please feel free to criticize! If you didn't know the sun is coming from the right side. Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 21:12, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

You forgot to sign. Get rid of the ear pink on her right ear. This is very good! You need to change the file name to Songbird.queen.png-- Night s h i n e   R  21:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

This is beautiful, very nice job. Only thing I see is to maybe shade the belly, because that would be sheltered from the sun, and blur the ear pink well. Also, please remember to sign by typing four tildes (~) at the end of your message so we know who posted. --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 21:16, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

There is a gray pixel in the eye farther away from us  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 21:37, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED: I did what you asked, now is there anything else? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 21:43, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Not that I can see. Great job. --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 22:11, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:12, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten it more. Make the ear pink a bit smaller and darken the nose pink-- Night s h i n e   R  22:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I make the ear pink smaller, lightened it up, and darkened the nose. Any more? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:23, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you know any lighter and it starts to look golden instead of brown. Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:24, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

De-saturate it first, then lighten it a bit with the dodge tool-- Night s h i n e   R  22:32, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but how do I do that? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:37, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Use the saturate/de-saturate tool, it looks like a sponge. 雨 晶須  22:42, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see that tool here. What program do you use? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:48, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like a sponge on Pixlr. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   22:52, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense because I use Gimp for this, and as far as I know there isn't a tool like that there. Should I still do that? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:55, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

In GIMP, select the image. Go to Colours>Hue Saturation then move the saturation rectangle to the left until it is a good brown. Then use the dodge tool to make it a bit lighter-- Night s h i n e   R  23:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I thought you used Pixlr. Also, the ear pink is a bit too big and it should be more reddish. But it looks great otherwise! 雨 晶須  23:20, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thats okay, you couldn't have known anyways! :) I'm gonna start working on the ear but I might have supper first. Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 23:33, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I redded the ears and shortened them, how do they look? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 00:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, lighten the pelt and darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 00:09, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Is this enough? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 00:17, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading around the belly area. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#00ff11">Here comesSUMMER!   00:55, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I think I did good with the shading now. Dappleclaw ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLAODED: I worked on what you said Nightshine, and I'll start on what you said Ashshadow. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Was that enough or do I need to still blur? And also please specify spots that would need blurring. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:41, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

If no specific area is specified than that means all of it. I can't really see the shading or highlights now. Darken them a bit. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:45, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Is it good now or did I go a bit over the top? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 22:14, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't look brown enough. Darken it a tiny bit-- Night s h i n e   R  22:17, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Darker? Or is this good? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 22:33, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Songbird previously have a charart? It's very good by the way. I love the shading! :) ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 00:30, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Icestorm had it up for approval a while ago, but she withdrew it. This is lovely, Dappleclaw :) Define the ear pink more though, it's kind of hard to make out Night  Fall 00:41, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! And I saw it on Nightfall's page for pages that needed charart and no one was doin this one so I assumed it was okay. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:41, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I defined the ear more, hopefully it isn't too bright. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:48, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ivytail (A) - For Approval


Well, this is my first Charart. I hope this is good, but it probably will be declined in the first 2 suggestions. (Does it matter that I used Photoshop instead of GIMP? I don't have GIMP) Totallytawnypelt99 00:37, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

It will not be declined if we don't like it. But this is over the limit, however it is only one over so it should bve OK soon. First off, it needs to be taken out of thumbnail (which I'll do). Second, the white on the chest needs blurring and it needs to look more like- Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#00ff11">Here comesSUMMER!   00:42, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is very nice :) But on her midriff, I'd darken the white, it looks brighter compared to the white on her chest Night  Fall 02:46, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say blur a bit more by her muzzle, and brighten the brown, to make it more like the queen pic above. Thats all I can think of now! ^.^ Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 00:51, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I brightened the patches a bit and darkened the fur a bit. If the patches need to be brighter, just let me know. I also blurred the white as much as I could. Please tell me other improvements to put on her. Totallytawnypelt (TT) 00:58, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mousetalon, this isn't over the limit. Lighten the patches more. Make the ear pink more reddish-- Night s h i n e   R  01:02, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know about now but when it was first posted it was number 33. And I agree with Nightshine. Dappleclaw ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:06, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the patches and smudge them. Darken the shading and blur the white stomach. Icefall Icy Winds 19:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Some color went out of the lineart on her left front arm. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:29, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I brightened the patches, which are starting to kill me, but I won't give up! I made the ear more reddish (I think it was different because I was referring to the warrior picture instead of the queen, but hey, it's my first charart.) I also found out what blurring the white meant (i think) and did it. I also erased the extra coloring in front of her left arm (you're welcome, Ashshadow :D ). More comments? Please, please, more comments.Totallytawnypelt (TT) 21:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if it is different for the warrior image but the queen image has smaller patches. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:37, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I took Dappleclaw's advice and made the patches longer. Comments?68.191.43.114 23:23, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks nice, but maybe add more color into the patches, and also the haunces need more shading I think. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 23:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I added shading on the haunches and added more color (I even tried to vary it ^.^) Comments, Suggestions? Totallytawnypelt (TT) 00:04, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say it looks nice! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:05, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Millie (Lo)
Yep mah first charart any comments?

<span style="color:purple;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;backround:lime;border:1px solid -moz-border-radius: 1em; color:purple;">MOSSLEAP:)

Looks nice despite the fact I had to open Gimp to see it. Some tips would be darken the shading. Dappleclaw ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:18, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Save the image as a png file type-- Night s h i n e   R  03:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED i saved it as a png file and made the shading darker anything else?<span style="color:purple;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;backround:lime;border:1px solid -moz-border-radius: 1em; color:purple;">MOSSLEAP:)

Rename it Millie.loner.ong

RE-UPLOADEDi renamed it anything else?<span style="color:purple;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;backround:lime;border:1px solid -moz-border-radius: 1em; color:purple;">MOSSLEAP:)

Maybe make the tabby stripes on her back and hind leg on this side stretch farther. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:44, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED i made them longer and i darkened them up a bit too ^^ <span style="color:purple;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;backround:lime;border:1px solid -moz-border-radius: 1em; color:purple;">MOSSLEAP:)

Darken the shading on her chest a bit. Great job for a first Charart! Totallytawnypelt (TT) 00:10, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED thanks :D i darkened the chest shading anything else you find that needs editing?<span style="color:purple;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;backround:lime;border:1px solid -moz-border-radius: 1em; color:purple;">MOSSLEAP:)

On Millie's other pics she has almost black stripes and many more. So you might want to compare and change as you feel fit. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:52, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED thanks for pointing that out i darkened them anything else?<span style="color:purple;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;backround:lime;border:1px solid -moz-border-radius: 1em; color:purple;">MOSSLEAP:)

The stripes on her back could go almost to her belly. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:40, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED made the stripes longer :) anything else?<span style="color:purple;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;backround:lime;border:1px solid -moz-border-radius: 1em; color:purple;">MOSSLEAP:)

May I join this project?
Hello. May I join PCA? If neccesary, a sample of my own Charart can be seen on my user page. Thank you. <font face="Segoe Script"> Sasha    18:59, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

We don't require samples, a lead will add you soon. Welcome to PCA!!! ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   20:07, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Chasing Clouds - For Approval
Wow, I failed at the furry texture there. There are eight discussions, so this should be under the limit. Constructments? -- H A W K T A L O N        ö 19:09, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the face highlights near the ear. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   20:48, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shaded eye a tiny bit. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:58, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the patch on his tail. Icefall Icy Winds 21:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Brightened face highlight, lightened the shaded eye, and smudged the tail patch. -- H A W K T A L O N        ö 15:26, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Shy Fawn-For Approval
Comments? Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:57, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 21:06, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a bit. The colour is too yellow-- Night s h i n e   R  21:41, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''the shading doesn't blur anymore and it's not yellow. Those were highlights so I darkened them a bit. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:52, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt colour looks too golden. Blur the ear pink more- Night s h i n e   R  22:18, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Like I said before it's the highlights. I'll get to the earpink in a few. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  22:25, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate it a bit. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   22:28, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Rabbittail (W) For Approval
Ah, finally xD Okay, the first image is how he's described in Battles of the Clans. The second image is how he's drawn in Battles of the Clans. I wasn't sure which description to go with, so I thought I'd put them both up and see what you guys think Night  Fall 21:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I like the second one best, but they're both nice. Whichever one you choose the tail should be shortened. His description says stunted white tail. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:36, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be just like his description says. Pale gray with a stunted tail. It would probably look like Berrynose's tail-- Night s h i n e   R  21:42, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

The second one looks good, but both of them are lovely. For the second one, Blur the white patches, and for the first one, blur the ear pink and highlights. Icefall Icy Winds 21:49, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Yeah, Nightshine was right about the tail :) "Stunted -Slowed or stopped abnormally in growth or development" So on the first one, I stunted the tail, blurred the ear pink, and blurred the shading and highlights. On the second, I blurred the white patches. I would have stunted the tail on the second one, but I couldn't figure out how to copy and paste the lineart of the stunted tail on the first one, on to the second one Night  Fall 23:08, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I could help with the line art. But I like the first one. His tail is supposed to look like a rabbit's tail, so maybe make it a bit fluffy and shorten it. Lighten the tail more-- Night s h i n e   R  23:40, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Night :) I shortened and fluffified the tail Night  Fall 00:00, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I shortened the tail on the other one for you-- Night s h i n e   R  00:19, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Hey guys it's Spottedwing. This is the first time I've been on for several months and I think that it's not fair that I'm still a warrior of the project when I'm probably not going to make another image. The new way is just to confusing to me and I'm way to busy with High School work even over the summer. I think that I gave Bramble enough trouble, so I think that I should be taken off. But I thank the people who intrudced me to Pixlr. I think it will help me in my later years. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Magenta">Spottedwing 22:46, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Spottedwing. :) I don't know what you're talking about; you never gave me any trouble. You were wonderful to have in the Project. I can remove you if you feel you'll be too busy with schoolwork, and thank you for all your contributions. I hope you'll pop in once and a while to say hi, but if not, then I wish you well in school and in your art. --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 23:29, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Bramble. I'm very happy with the images that I did. But I don't think I'll be making another one. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Magenta">Spottedwing 23:40, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Something I Wanted to Say
Hi everyone, I just figured out that my style is diminishing. I was so good at it when I was an apprentice, but my last two images have been declined. I'm the worst ever charart maker in the world.

Now I know you're going to say to go look at tutorials, but I've looked at them 18 TIMES. You're also going to say to get GIMP. My parents won't let me, simple as that. So....I feel discouraged, and I don't think I'll be able to make another charart after Dawnpelt. I'm sorry, but you may say that Dawnpelt will be my last ever charart. Ever. If I can make my style become better than before, then I will make another. But it will probably never be.

I am not leaving PCA, it's just i won't make another charart. I want to thank you for the days when I was good at it. Dawnpelt may be declined. Thank you, Quailflight  05:57, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh Quail, I'm sorry you feel discouraged about this :( I know you're probably tired of hearing this, but practice makes perfect. And, if you don't succeed, try try again. I think you're good at chararts, but if you feel this is the right thing to do, then I won't stop you :) Night  Fall 06:36, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I went through a similar phase, but your skills always come back, Quail! ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   12:46, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry if this is my fault; I didn't mean my comment on Dawnpelt in a harsh way, just stating the facts of the situation, though now I look back on it I hope I didn't offend you. I have to say that Nightfall summed up what I have to say quite well. -- Sandy star 15:01, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (MCA) for approval
My first charart for PCA. Comments? <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 14:34, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading along the back a bit. Dawn leaf The Epicness Of This Epic Signature! 17:28, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Runningwind (Ki) for approval
I'm really sorry about my last charart. Real life got in the way and I forgot all about it. But anyway, thre are four discussions, so here's Runningwind. Comments?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  17:26, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

It need to look like his other images  Z  Nightsong  17:40, June 22, 2010 (UTC)