Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Accepted 18

Buzzardtail- Approved
Well, this is my first charart... Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 15:37, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good for your first charart, I only see a few problems:


 * Add shading and blend it, making it look real
 * Blend the ear pink and make it darker, it looks fluro
 * Add highlights on the pelt

Hawkey  Ready for action 17:22, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I can't see any shading, add some and use the blur tool to make his pelt seem for 3-D. And blur the ear, make it not as bright. -- Peacesong Click Here To Go To........My Talk Page 18:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

They're right. Make the ear pink a triangle shape in the centre of the ear and blend a little. Despite what Hawke said above, don't add highlights until you've got the shading sussed as it'll make it more difficult and the image may not even need them. Get the shading and ear sorted and then see about highlights. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:23, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

OK. I'll fix that stuff. Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 20:00, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can someone give me some tips on shading? I always get it too dark, and I don't know where to put it. Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 20:11, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really good at shading, either, but what I did was get the smudge tool, set the brush size to about 3 or 5, and then just smudge from the outline. (I did this in Pixlr.) And then I blurred it together by clicking on the blur tool and setting it to about 3-5. As I said, I'm not really sure about the best shading tips, but maybe that can help a little bit. Also, I noticed a couple of other things.

Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 00:11, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * The right ear is just a little bit darker than the rest of his fur.
 * Try blending the ear pink some more. The ear pink it really standing out right now.

Thanks! I'll go fix that stuff. Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 00:53, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay. Anything else? Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 00:21, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

I think the shading is on the back, the hind leg, and where the tail connects to his body. And the back ear should be darker as well. -- Rain whisker 09 18:16, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I tried to get it similar to some of the approved images, but it doesn't look quite right to me.... :( <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:28, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading into the pelt. -- Rain whisker 09 20:07, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

It needs a lot more shading. I can tell you used some, but I can barely see it. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:13, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

ReuploadedOkay, I have made the shading darker, and blended it as much as I could. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 23:55, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

You've now blurred the whole outline. Make the ear pink smaller, more central and a slightly paler colour. There is a smudge of lineart above her nose. Unblur the outline and then make the shading thicker and blend it (without touching the lineart) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:25, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the ear, and tried to fix the shading, but I still can't get it right :( <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 16:02, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry Morningleaf! You'll get it eventually - it takes most people a few tries. You've got the ear pink sorted now, which is good. On the shading, it's now the right darkness and thickness, just a little blotchy. You need to keep it as one clean consistent ine. Then blend the inside edges carefully so they start to run into the rest of the colour. Do not use the smudge tool though as this will make it streaky. Also, you need to remove the shading a little from the muzzle and a coupe of other places. At the moment you have shading following the whole lineart. Just choose the direction of your light source and then think about where the shadows would fall and put your shading there. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:15, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Try blending the shading with the blur tool; in pixlr, the blur tool is the one that looks like a rain drop, and when you hold the mouse over it, I think it says "Blur Tool", but I can't remember...but that should blend it. I highly reccomend putting the brush size at about 3-7 (square), and keeping the strength at 100.


 * If you accidentally hit the lineart inside the picture, make sure to color back in the lineart pixels by putting the pencil brush at size 1 (circle or square, doesn't matter), and put the color to black. Then, just color where the lineart is blurred, and the lineart should return.
 * If you accidentally blurred/smudged it outside of the picture, then just put the eraser at 1 and erase the spots outside of the lineart.

I hope this can help some! And don't worry, you'll get the hang of it eventually! It just takes time and practice. :) Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:37, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention this: there is so much shading on the front leg, that I can barely see its actual color. Try using less shading there. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat. Also, you need to blend the shading. Last, there are like, little spots in between the shading. you need to get rid of that.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:42, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I really agree with Swallowtip, the need to be removed, you probably made the spots because you first shaded it, then added some more shading in some parts, so the shading is darker where the spots are. Remove the spots, blend the shading. -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Proud Owner of a Imaginary Panda! 00:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll work on it later today. I am very busy with school right now, so please don't decline this. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 12:14, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I got rid of the spots. Anything else? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:52, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Use this diagram for how to do the eye:. Also, you're shading looks nicer now, but increase it a bit and make sure you blur the transition so there's no hard line. Darken the ear pink a little bit as well. -- Bramble ’-san'  22:14, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed the ear pink and the shading and blended it as much as I could. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:24, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

You hit the shading right on the nail, but the ear pink needs to be darker and smaller.Minnowclaw 01:48, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

You've accidentally blurred the lineart over the eye. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 10:59, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

You actualy need shading on the tail far fore-paw and far hind-paw.Minnowclaw 21:31, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

kk, fixed it (I think) <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs blended some more, there's too hard of a line in the transition between the shading and the actual fur. Also, the tail needs some shading, and so does the chin. But don't use the smudge tool for this, use the burn tool on midtones at about 50 percent, with the brush size somewhere aruond 1 to 5, depending on where you're shading. Play around with it until you find what suits you best. Also, fix the ear pink just a little bit, it looks oval-ish right now. It needs to be more triangular, like the ear itself, with some space and light shading in between. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:51, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:48, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks more purple than pink, but it may just be my computer screen. But the shading needs to be thickened, and it's too dark. Try using the burn tool like before, for the shading, instead of the smudge tool for shading. (sorry, I've discovered that the burn tool is much better than the smudge tool.) And to lighten the shading, use the dodge tool. Make sure you blend the shading into the fur as well, so there's a smooth transition of colors. Right now, there's still too much of a hard line. Also, the shading on the top of the head looks very abnormal, and needs to curve where the head lineart does, and there's some blurred lineart that needs un-blurred. To do that, just turn the gray pixels to black again with the pencil. Woah, long comment. The shading on the chin looks very good, by the way. :) Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:25, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Blend in the shading on top of the head. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 19:58, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

KK, I fixed the shading and ear pink. Can someone please circle the places where the lineart is blurred? 22:46, September 27, 2009 (UTC)<font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup

No need. I did you a favor (I hope you don't mind) and fixed it for you. There's a trick to fixing the lineart; you open the original blank, turn everything white transparent with the magic eraser, then use the selector tool to layer the lineart over your image. Lineart fixed. :) Are there any other comments? -- Bramble -san  03:27, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Bramble! <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:33, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  23:48, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

None. Approved. -- Bramble -san  02:37, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

To-Be Blanks - Approved


Inspired by a need to make Stormfur. So I couldn't help myself and made an example (of Stormfur). Comments/ critism? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 21:28, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

These are great! The only things I see are that the ears need to be pointed, the eyes need to be a bit bigger, and muzzle lineart needs to be thickened.  HA WK FI RE98  21:31, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Changed the muzzle line art to make it thicker and made ears pointer. With both I made them the maximum they could be without... looking disturbing. The eye can't get any bigger whatsoever without looking disturbing. Thanks! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 21:41, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

I thought M&S was making the cave-guard blanks...? These look great! But I think that the line where the muzzle connects to the neck looks a little awkward. I would change the line a bit. -- Rain whisker 09 22:31, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M)- Oh, I forgot to tell you Blackclaw that I decided not to use them becuase I became way to busy. O_o Sorry! I like these blanks alot, but something about them makes them almost look chibi-ish...I can't pinpoint it right now, but I'll let you know if I figure it out. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:36, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Haha, chibi? But yes, they do look rather young. I would hate to try and distort these images to try and make them look older, because they are beautiful now. Dawn, what do you think of making these our to-be blanks? They look like young cats beginning to enter adolescence. It's your choice, though. -- Bramble My Realm 00:54, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I have to-be blanks reserved Bramble. I don't think they look to young. If too many people disagree maybe they can be soft-paws.Minnowclaw 01:19, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I think they'd be great for soft-paw blanks. But Bramble's right, they're too small to be cave-guard blanks. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:39, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

We'll see what Dawn says, or if she can fix them to look older like the amazing artist she is. Minnowclaw, I'd like to see your blanks, if you are done with them. -- Bramble My Realm 01:59, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Adorable! The transition from hind-leg to paw is a tad awkward, though.-- Darkhallows My den 08:23, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Minnowclaw, are you making both tribe to-be blanks? Because if not, then you could do the prey-hunter to-be blanks and Dawnfeather could do  the cave-guard to-be blanks. If you're OK with that, of course. -- Rain whisker 09 12:34, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Blackclaw: we're only having one set of to-be blanks. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:47, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Oh... but couldn't you make two sets? It would be more work, but we're already making two sets of tribe cats, why not make two sets of to-bes too? Just an idea. Unless Danwfeather would rather make these soft-paws. -- Rain whisker 09 22:50, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

You know what, these are too good to just toss out and mine will never be like this. Dawn, if you want, they can be to-bes and maybe I can scratch something up to be soft paw's.Minnowclaw 23:54, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

If you are sure, I think I'll do that. I don't think that there is any point making two different types of to-be blanks as we have only meet about three or four. Could those who had things they wanted changed please repeat themselves? This article is such a mess that I can't find anything! (sorry) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 01:18, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Looks like this, I think: Blackclaw09: the line where the muzzle connects to the neck looks a little awkward. I would change the line a bit. Darkhallows: Adorable! The transition from hind-leg to paw is a tad awkward, though And everything else was about the chibi-ness, but that's settled now since they're becoming to-be blanks. -- Bramble -san  01:33, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Note: I am unwell and cannot edit images at this point in time :( Please do not decline, I will hopefully be able to edit before I go away next week (I should be better by then). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 23:35, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that Dawn! I hope you get better soon and I'll make sure no one will decline it along with everyone else, although then agian, I don't have power. L.O.L!Minnowclaw 01:28, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I hope you get better soon, Dawn. :( We miss you here. As I do have the power to approve/decline, I’ll keep these up as long as I can. :) Don’t worry about them, just try and get better. We want our sun back! (that was a really, really bad pun…) -- Bramble -san  02:41, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Pixlr is playing up. No matter what tool i am using, it does nothing and in the history panel it shows 'move selection', even if there is no selection. It'll be here soon though, I promise! (*sob* why does this happen to me? This week has been... ick) (Hi all!) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:48, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

I wanted to test these blanks: I had no trouble coloring this one in. -- Rain whisker 09 13:39, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Try making them less muscular; smooth out the transition from the musles. Also, try bending the female's eye flick; it looks... Egyptian right now. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:24, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, made transparent, changed hind paws, changed necks, changed ears, and changed female's eyes. Also, I made a Splash When Fish Leaps. I am going away tomorrow and will be back on Saturday. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 10:14, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  23:48, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Aweomse! Thanks Bramble! (can I please ask a favour? I've already made Splash here and I'd like to upload her when I get back. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 23:58, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

No problem, Dawn. :) I'll add her to your current projects. Have fun on your trip. -- Bramble -san  00:12, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There's a tiny black speck above the female shorthaired. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:18, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

As that wasn’t relevant to the image, I changed it. Approved. -- Bramble -san  02:37, September 30, 2009 (UTC)