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Rock Beneath Still Water (CG) - For Approval
I know this is #41(whoa), but there's one discussion, four images in the 24 hour stage, and one to be declined. I really hate his tail. Why did Sharptooth have to bite it off? G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:58, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I really like the mud lightning, but I think the ear pink could be red, or darker. Brambleclaw14 Talk 16:45, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, his stumpy tail doesn't look right. There's no lineart to indicate where the tail ends. Try fixing that-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:25, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I like the coloring, but I think the tail would look a smidge less odd if it stuck out past the body a little bit. Not a ton, because I know it has to be short, but the way it is now it almost looks like part of the body, so if you made it stick out a bit it would be more clear that it was the tail. ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ ☚ 21:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you mean. If you do that on a cave guard blank....As for the ear pink, I took the same colour which I used on Jag, as if I'm not wrong, that's the standard colour. If I am wrong, just tell me, and I'll change it. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

But Jag isn't the same color as Rock. I can barely see the ear pink on this one-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was looking at the tail in the wrong direction, but I figured out what the problem is after looking at the blank again. I think you just forgot to put the end of the tail in? It looks like the tail just vanishes... (Maybe it's my computer screen, since his fur is so dark) but I made a diagram to show what I mean. I think when you were erasing the tail you just forgot to put in a new end, like that. As I said, I'm on a semi-cruddy monitor right now, so it might be the screen not letting me see it, but... yeah... ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ ☚ 17:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

No Insaneular, you're right. There's no end to the tail. That's what I was trying to say in my first comment.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The way you ended the tail looks odd. Maybe make it a bit longer. I dont really know how to describe what I'm talking about.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Ashshadow, can you make the tail a bit longer, so it overlaps with the front leg a bit? ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ ☚ 21:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

It is supposed to be a stump. And I don't think stumps are that long. "...whose tail was merely a stump."– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but maybe make the end more round. It looks to boxish-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:52, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

D'oh! Just ignore me, then. I was thinking just a short tail, not a stump. *fail* ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 12:06, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 04:05, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the tail is better. But his hanuch is bothering me. Do them more like this maybe?-

-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:52, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe bring the line down a little or get rid of that black pixel.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:09, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? – – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

There is a black spot above his foot. Either get rid of it or connect the leg to it. I can make an example if you need it.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 14:47, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:34, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more shading and blend it. The shading you have now has been donne on highlights right? It looks very... saturated ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:37, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 11:54, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit brighter and more noticeable. Also, blur the mud streaks a tad bit more. -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 19:19, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Also add a streak to his head-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:50, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Color the nose in. If it already, make it lighter. Good job! Birchy 17:30, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. btw, I'm going to another state for my granddad's first death anniversary, so I won't be on on the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and the 7th, so please do not decline.– – ``` G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w ``` – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 12:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add a mudstreak to the middle of his haunch.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:32, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

''Reuploaded. Anything else?''– – ``` G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w ``` – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:34, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Wait a sec, didn't he lose all of his tail? -Owlblaze Oakstar 03:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

His tail was a stump. Refer to Moonrise if you have it. The part where they run away from the Tribe of Rushing Water.– – ``` G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w ``` – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 08:49, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The shading's really dark and bumpy, try blurring it alot. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will declined. B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  22:36, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Icicle (K) For Aprroval


Hi! This is my first charart. It's Icicle the kit from the Ravenpaw's Path Manga series. Please leave comments and stuff so I can fix it. Also, as an apprintice I want to say Bluestar's tutorial was very helpful. Thank you Bluestar! I had no clue what to do! This isn't very good but like I said, it's my first cat. Tell me what to do and thanks! May StarClan light your path!Artimas Hunter 19:14, January 8, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, first of all in needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail. Second, I see you've saved it in jpg format. It's a way better idea to save it in either png. or gif. Third, the background needs to be transparent right now it's black. Fourth, the eyes need eye white. Look at this for help--User:Icethroat21/Tutorials. Fifth, the ear pink is to hot pink, make it lighter and then blur. Sixth, she's supposed to be pale gray, with a white stripe on her forhead, a white chest, see here -Icicle She just looks white. Darken the gray on her pelt, and blend the spots where it's supposed to be white-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:23, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Glad I could help! Ok, go back and save it in your image program, but save it as a PNG, so the background will be transparent. You need to make the white mark very, very pale gray, and darken the pelt color. The ear pink looks too hot pink - see the chart on my tutorials for reference. He needs highlights, and the shading needs to be darkened/thickened. The eyes also need a glare (little white dot). See Icethroat's tutorials on how to do the eye. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆23:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits! I changed it so it fits both of your suggestions!Artimas Hunter 17:11, January 9, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Better. Now blur the white parts.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Artimas Hunter 20:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This looks good =) You need to blur the white a bit more though - try looking at some other patched cats to see how much to blur. Also, the shading needs to be a bit thicker and blended in more. Look at Applefur's kit version for an example as to how I would shade a kit. Be careful not to blur the lineart though. This is a great start to a first image =) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  20:30, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I think it turned out okay too. :D Is this better?Artimas Hunter 21:01, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This is really good but, darken the earpink a tad.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this is better? I'm so excited for it to be approved! I hope it's soon!00:05, January 12, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay sorry if this goes into another chart, my computer's got a problem, anyways here is Icicle again for approval. Comment back! I think she's almost ready for approval but I am kinda biased on the opinion! :D Artimas Hunter 21:42, January 13, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Hi! I know I'm being really impatient but I'm bored and no one has comented for days. Would someone have mercy and comment PLEASE??!! I want her to be approved cause I made 2 other chararts that are ready to go when she gets approved.Artimas Hunter 22:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

The highlight looks too bright Icecloud33  00:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''I think you're looking at the white chest and think theyre highlights. The earpink color still isnt quite right, try a color like Tess or Husker and blur it'''.The font is actin up on me T.T Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:42, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you soooooooooooo much for commenting! i think I was about to explode! :D I see what you mean aboutt the font.....anyways, here is Icicle revised! Ashshadow is right, she has a white chest not highlights but if those were highlights they would be WAY to bright! What do you think? I'm so excited!Artimas Hunter 01:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

- Okay, I know this is my own image and I don't normally give them as examples, but you need to make the shading thicker and darker and blurred. You could also use Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better?Artimas Hunter 23:50, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the shading some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:07, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Artimas Hunter 20:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Getting there =) Add some shading under the neck and on the face ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:11, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Thanks, I hope I get done soon! It's turning out way better then I thought it would!Artimas Hunter 22:11, January 21, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, now blend the shading ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? It's not blurring well biut that might just be me. Do you think it needs more?Artimas Hunter 00:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

A little more. Also - you seem to have hit the lineart in places. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:15, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I did it. It's not blurring well, I think I burned it too much. Do you think I should start over?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:54, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I would say so only because the lineart would be hard to fix. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:28, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I urned it andblurred it too sloppily. I'm going to go redo it now. Thanks. -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 00:47, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, the redone Icicle! She's a lot better with the blurring and shading!-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:02, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I cant see the shading. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:51, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Can you see it now?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 00:52, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

yes but make it darker. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:59, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Dark enough?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 22:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the highlights a lot.-- M I  N  N  O  W  C  L  A  W  00:01, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Better?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 22:58, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Not really, it just looks lie a white blob on her head and chest. Maybe darken the highlight a bit and then blur. Just a thought. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:08, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm trying to blur it as much as I can and I do't know if this is any better. Is it good? Sorry :( -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:43, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The white chest is blurred good but make the mark on her head more stripe like. Also darken/add shading on the legs. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:17, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Is this done well enough?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:18, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge (KP) - For Approval
nobody has him up plus i really wanted to do him so please don't decline this! Echopaw 15:09, January

16, 2010 (UTC)

He looks nothing like his picture in Cats of the Clans.Look at that for a refrence.And theres no need for ear pink on the farthest ear.Also,it's to dark and looks more like a acute triangle,amke it alittle smaller and blur it. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 15:16, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter whether you really wanted to do him or not, Shruggy (Brambleclaw14) has him on his current projects. I am going to decline this, sorry. People 'reserve characters because they really want to do them, and if you want to put characters up either add them to your own list before anyone else does, or discuss it with the person who has it reserved before you post. Declined for said reasons.
 * Note: nobody has him up because the blanks have been approved not 5 minutes ago.

Also - approval has an 'a' not an 'e' ;) Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  15:32, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sandy Echopaw can do him. the thing I use for making then isn't working (nothing is working :[ ) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:48, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, back up for approval. Sorry to hear that Shruggy. Echo - just remember for next time Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  15:55, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the patches looks odd to me, or is it supposed to be like that?-- Moss I'm Up There!  19:03, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty good, but i think it could use some more shading, and also, blur the patches a lot. The edges look rough now. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 19:40, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, that's not exactly fair. I reserved him, and I thought nobody can take your reservation. Plus: I did him earlier, see? I thought I did a good job too. :( Swiftpelt 19:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

When you reserved him Brambleclaw14 had him first.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw's reservation wasn't on there before the new Character thing. When I put it up there, nobody had it. Oh well.... :'( Swiftpelt How's the prey running? 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Shruggy definitely had him first because I checked when I removed him from your current projects. Sorry Swiftpelt. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  20:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Echopaw,he looks nothing like his image in cats of the clans.In it,he's a black cat with small white spots on various places.Look in that book for a refrence once again. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt: Give him/her a chance - it's only been a couple of hours; you can't expect everyone to edit an image that quickly. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  22:30, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I know,but still.For some reason I get paranoid on things like this.I want them to be as accurate as possible.Also,his eyes are supposed to be amber. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

thanks sandy and im a she! Echopaw 22:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and Cats of the Clans it terribly inaccurate in some images. I never pictured Smudge like he was portrayed in that book. But our chararts don't really have to look like their images in Cats of the Clans. Take Heathertail for example. She looks nothing like she's supposed to in Cats of the clans, she's orange with purply eyes. But her charart was done beautifully, the way she was described in the book. So, I don't think that should be an issue -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Smudge's base color is black. I guess you can replace the white with black, and the black with white.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well wait a minute, we don't know that. There are so many mistakes in that book that we can't be sure. I think it's fine if we just keep it white with black patches.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:27, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think we need to go on written evidence as we cannot be sure the pictures are entirely correct seeing as they were an artist's own impression of the characters and not Erin Hunter's own work. As long as the image fits the book descriptions we have of him, I think it'll be okay Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, as for the image. The eyes do need to be amber, as that's been cited from the book. The ear pink looks too purple, make it more reddish like this -- Bone -- Blur the patches more, and add some more shading to the head -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED sorry well here he is Echopaw 22:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The patches and earpink need to be blurred more.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED here is he any better? Echopaw 14:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Right now it looks like there's lineart around the patches, it needs to be blended between the black and white to be a gray-ish color. For examples, look at Patchpelt, Mousewhisker, Toadstep, Crowfrost, Cloudspots, Smoky, Floss, Fritz, or Splash. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:56, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 16:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The patches still need to be blurred a lot, and so does the ear pink. Also, there needs to be ear pink on his right ear also -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

No NIght, that ear is turned away from us. Blur the shading on his head. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be a lot smaller, so it fits inside the ear. Blur as well, like Night says, on all the shading. Bramble -sama  02:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded Echopaw 21:01, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still purple. Look at Splash to get the right color, and then really blur it. Also, the shading on his head still needs to be blurred a lot. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:29, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better! Echopaw 23:26, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Swiftpelt i took down your smudge cause it was really confusing me! Echopaw 00:39, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks very purple to me, and the shading needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 13:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little more. Also lighten the shading on his head. The ear pink looks very purple. Perhaps make it like Whitestorm. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:16, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the ear looks really purple. Does anyone else agree? Maybe you should try and change the colour completely? You could also make the pink (purple) ear smaller? Fawnstorm 19:32, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink, and blue the shading, not that it's really needed. Apart from that, you're good to go! Birchy 17:32, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  10:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Uhh School work hard! so hard! ganna die! any ways here he is! the first part explains every thing;) style="font-family:Papyrus;border:2px solid; color:darkgreen;"> echo paw  13:50, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Now the earpink is too bright. Try getting the color from another black cat since the ear is black.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:20, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 16:43, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks really weird.....maybe shrink it and then blur some more.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:40, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:40, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 19:57, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks a tad too purple.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  20:47, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's still way to purple. It's way to big, and it doesn't even look like you blurred, just smudged it a lot. Look at an approved kittypet for an example on how to do the ear pink. - Jigsaw, Seville, Princess-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:46, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Well most of it is the shading Echopaw 00:20, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

You shouldn't shade part of the earpink. Either shade that side of the face or leave it a single color. try looking at some other Kittypets.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:56, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Ashshadow is right, and I think you should completely redo the ear pink. It looks smudged, not blurred. It needs to be smaller, and it's way to purple-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:14, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED any better? i tried my best! Echopaw 00:30, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

It looks a bit big. -- Angel Paw  00:32, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's very bright pink. Make it darker and more discreet-- M I  N  N  O  W  C  L  A  W  00:03, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

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The earpink is still way to big. Look at Jigsaw-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:21, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look strange, maybe make them bigger.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 17:48, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Stupid ear pink!!! some one help me with the ear pink! <font color="#0000FF">EcHoPaW   17:43, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I've done the ear pink for you.

I feel really bad saying this but the shading and highlights are a complete mess as soon as you blow it up a few hundred times. I did my best to blend them a little for you... Also, most of the lineart is blurred and some is missing. I think you may be better starting over on this. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:06, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sandy thank you and i redid the whole thing. <font color="#0000FF">EcHoPaW   21:48, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

You need to color his nose and the shading on the white parts of him is too dark.-- Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:16, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and add nose color.--  Night shine   ♥  02:55, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Cedarpaw (A) - For Approval


This is my first charart so it's not that good. ^^; How can I improve it? Lotusfire 17:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

This is a really good charart for your first one,but,which ever Cinderpaw this is,they both have a apprentice charart.Im sorry. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 17:39, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt is right. Perhaps take the pixels from the eye and change the eye colour to amber and this can be Cedarheart's app pic? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:53, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, good idea Sandy :) Try that Lotus! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:01, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree.But s/he might have to change the pelt color,seeing as it is darker than the elder and warrior image. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 20:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC) 

Nothing the dodge tool cant fix. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, the dodge tool is like the shading tool, except it lightens. It looks like a little microphone. Get a large brush size and just run over the image a few times, and erase a few of the pixels of the eye to make it look masculine. That's about it. -- Bramble -sama  02:04, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I changed it, it might not be blurred enough, but how is it? Lotusfire 03:20, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

It still needs to be lightened a bit. Look at Cedarheart's elder and warrior images to get an idea of how light it should be - Cedarheart -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:23, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's lighter now, I'm still a compy art noob. >.<;;; Lotusfire 03:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

The colour looks fine to me now. Just blend the shading and highlights Lotus. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:57, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I blurred more. Lotusfire 01:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's kind of hard to see the ear pink. Maybe make it more of a reddish color, like his elder image. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:44, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

There is a little shadow under his tail. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:43, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in over a week. Please reupload soon, or it will be declined-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:08, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Lotus asked me to repost this for her. Is it better? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:23, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Her neck shading is very big. Make it a little smaller-- M I  N  N  O  W  C  L  A  W  00:04, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Cedarheart is a tom, not a sh-cat-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:20, February 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hits herself on the head* Gosh sorry, when I see c...paw I think Cinderpaw.*hits herself again and falls in the snow.* M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:15, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The neck shading still needs to be smaller, as well as the far hind leg/belly area shading lightened. Also add a little shading on the shoulder. Bramble 22:58, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Sasha(KP)-For approval


Im not sure about this one, it probably fails. Anyways, comments?(it's Firepelt,I have to fix my siggy because its messed up.

Not bad, just darken and blur the shading, and also, her eyes looks a bit neon blue to me, make them more neutral, like Heathertail's maybe? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:47, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Firepelt, while you fix your siggie, can you at least put something like Firepelt so that it looks like this: Firepelt and has the time shown, that way there's a link to your user page and from there we can get to your talk page. For the image itself, Insane covered almost all of it, but make the ear pink more of a reddish color, like on Rippletail's or Mossypaw. --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I had gotten her Ear pink directly from her rouge image, but i'll make it more of a red color. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  21:15, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  21:15, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good Fire! But bur the shading more. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  21:11, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Thank you Ice. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  00:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Something is missing... Why not get the Dodge tool and run it over the hind leg and shoulder once or twice? Maybe the head needs a good Dodging too. After that, It will look so much livelier! Swifty How's the prey running?

Dodge her? Why? I got her color directly from her rouge image though. Why dodge? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  02:06, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have to admit, Im not the best as dodging. Really! Im not. truth is, im horrible. I dont think i'll be able to do that. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  02:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading. Maplefern Hi everyone! 02:18, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I could Dodge it for you, if you'd like. Swifty How's the prey running?

Reuploaded.I blurred the shading, you can try to dodge it you you'd like, Swifty, then post it on my talk page to see if i'll use it instead.Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  16:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

blur the shading a bit. Minn owc law 01:23, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else?

No, I think this is ready now. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:15, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think more shading is needed on the face, tail and foreleg and it all needs blending some more. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  23:35, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... Can you make her paws and her muzzle darker brown? She is supposed to be some sort of siamese I think, according to her piccy in the manga. -Owlblaze Oakstar 07:11, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

She looks nothing lie a siamese, and I got the color from her rouge version. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  20:59, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

I still see no shading on her tail or forleg Perhaps thicken it. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:35, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  16:50, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ruby (KP)-For approval
I don't have much to say. First kittypet. Everyone seems to be in the mood, and I don't want to be left out :) Moss I'm Up There!  21:27, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, this is good but does she need a kittypet image? Think about it. They were kits when they were kittypets, and these blanks are for full grown cats. We wouldn't use a rogue blank for Tadpole. I think they're good with the images they've got already, the kit blanks but with collars. I don't know, what do the rest of you think?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:28, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Firetstar has a kittypet image, and nobody said anything about him. Besides, how much time did elaspse during the Rise of Scourge? Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:54, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfall, it's true. they were kittypets in the rise of Scourge while he started BloodClan so wouldn't they kittypet images. They would have grown up as Kittypets Angel  Paw  00:59, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, for the image, darken the shading a little bit or add some brighter highlights. Other wise it looks great!-- Minn owc law 01:05, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Forget my last comment. Just blur the shading a bit more.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:32, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The tail shading wouldn't blur anymore, and then the shading on the shoulder got darker. Moss I'm Up There!  16:54, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 00:54, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Featherwhisker(MCA) - For Approval
I know it says it's the 40th, but five of the messages are unrelated to the chararts, making mine the 35th. Well, what do you think? It's my very first Charart! It was really hard, but I think it's ok. I wasn't sure if the herbs looked ok, so I put them like that. Just a little question, say someone said change the herbs to green, I edit it, and then what? Do I upload the new one? Anyway, comments?

Edit: Everytime I upload it, it's pixelated. I don't know how to change it without doing it again, and making it pixelated.Birchy 18:09, January 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok when you reupload it go to File:Featherwhisker.jpg then go down and you should see upload new file os something like that cick it and then upload the new character art, I'll say something about the pic but I've got to eat frist :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 18:18, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks Bramble! Birchy 18:19, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Back :) on the pic yep I think you should make the herbs green look at Jayfeather you get the color :) also call me Shruggy as Bramble is called Bramble :) and good character art Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 19:07, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ok then. And, by the comment, do you mean call you Shruggy on the Bramble14 account, and Bramble, on the Bramble account? Birchy 19:20, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Birchy 19:28, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble and Brambleclaw14 (aka Shruggy) are two different users. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:32, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

It looks pixlated. That is because you saved as a JPG. Redo the image as a PNG. Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:25, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

So, do I need to redo the image? Birchy 10:05, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I decided to do it again. It didn't take long, besides, I don't know how to change it from JPEG, to PNG. Birchy 10:28, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the shading and add a highlight to the herbs.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:30, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid it again, because it looked strange. my pixel problem is solved: I just need to remember to put png. Birchy 15:10, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blend the shading. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:37, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I can't get it blurred without blurring the lineart. Birchy 21:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The way to not blur lineart is by using layers. The way to do it in most image programs is the same. First, open up your image, then, use the wand select tool to select all the lineart. Then Cut it (Control/Command+X) and make a new layer on the image, then paste the lineart into that layer, now you can do the color separately from the lineart. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:27, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:28, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. NEVER GET AN EVIL COMPUTER!! I would have worked on it, but my stupid computer wouldn't let me on Pixlr. GRR! Anyways, I blurred the shading. I can't get the layers to work. It either doesn't work at all, or it blurs the lineart. http&#58;//warriors.wikia.com/wiki/User:Birchy 11:50, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I can barely see the shading. Darken it/lighten highlights (one or both) and maybe add a highlight to the top of the head?-- Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:05, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Sparrowpelt (SC) (KP) - For approval


I found Boris who is also a dark brown tabby tom so I can still use this. THE SECOND ONE IS NOT DONE. I just want to no which tabby strips are better. Please give you opinion.-- Minn owc law 00:21, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like the first design better.--  Night shine   ★  00:26, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Good, I am better at that, any other votes? Minn owc law 00:29, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like the first one :) Evanphoto 00:47, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, the first one it is. Now I'm ready for critice. Thank you insaneular for help on my sig! M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 01:02, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Nice to see ya back Minnow :). The earpink is a little too bright. Good job besides that. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:09, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded LOL, anyone who remembers me knows that I always had a problem with that :P.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 01:16, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I have been very kindly asked to switch this from boris to Sparrowpelt and that is what I'm going to do so this is now sparrowpelt.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 02:39, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

For the image itself, make the ear pink more of a reddish color like on Rippletail or maybe Stick, but otherwise I'm glad that you're back Minnow! But I noticed in your new siggie (which I think is awesome), you put Usertalk instead of User talk, and Usercontributions instead of user contributions or speical:contributions/Minnowclaw, so it's leaving red links everywhere, if you could fix that it'd be awesome. --  Icy -chan   ☆  03:11, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ya, that was in my old one, but I fixed it and now my new one doesn't do that. It'll get to the image tommorow. I have no intrest to work at 12:58am becaue I will probably make him look like a crazy mine reading cat because of lack of sleep :P M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 02:39, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

reuploded and I also made him a little darker.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:27, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

He has the normal, pointy stripes. Not the Y-shaped ones. Maplefern Hi everyone! 14:38, January 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * ( I'll fix him now...-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The second one is a check to make sure I'm doing it right. is it okay? *hides behind a rock waiting to hear yowls of disproval*-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:58, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not going to let out yowls of dissaproval, don't worry. :) But this still isn't the right type of stripes, try looking at his warrior version for help. Also, make the brown a bit darker, the brown doesn't look the same as his warrior version either. --  Icy -chan   ☆  16:05, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Is there like a tutorial on how to do these stripes because I suck at them... :( M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 22:12, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Here ;) ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

ReuplodedThanks Sandy, Nice sig! Okay, I don't think I did too great of a job, but I used the same colors, made him short haired and gave him the right eye colour.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 22:30, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oops. You couldn't see the ear pink there... -- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 18:35, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the shadig transition a little more. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:19, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I know that there looks like there is no difference, ut it is blended to the max now.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 22:16, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Question: Which sig is better? My old one or this? -- M I  N  N  O  W  C  L  A  W  02:26, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit darker. Also, I actually like your other sig better, with the letters going up and down, but either is fine, they're both better than mine. :) -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 01:44, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 22:16, January 31, 2010 (UTC

Susan(KP)-For Approval
Well,Sandy put Sasha CBA few hours ago,so I guess its okay.I used Insane's tutorials..--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:53, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back, the tabby stripes in the shaded area, and the ears. And on the tag, there's a black blob with a line connecting to ghe fur. Erase this, because it shouldn't be there. (I know it's on the lineart, it just needs to be removed). Otherwise, great job! Birchy 10:56, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) IvyHi there!! 11:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Great! There's still that blob on the tag. Any you coloured in the line. Erase them, and this will be great!Birchy 11:16, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes look weird. look at Night shine's tutorial for eyes here Echoheart 11:36, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guysreuploded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:44, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlight on the tail a little bit, then this will be great! M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:29, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'm glad my videos could help :) One thing I'd suggest is blurring the tabby stripes on the head a little more. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:49, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

You still haven't fixed the tag. Where it's golden, there's a black blob. Get rid of that, and coming down from it is a line. Get rid of that, the color there and it should be ready! Also, blur the stripes on the tail, near the end. Birchy 17:03, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The color looks really off. It says that Suzan is a light brown tabby. This looks golden, almost yellow-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:08, January 30, 2010 (UTC) REUPLOADEDsorry but ive been busy!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:28, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The head looks flat. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 12:03, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights more. Other than that this is really good! Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 22:22, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I changed the style.comments?--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 06:03, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

maybe make the eye color a tiny bit lighter and darken the shading. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 17:42, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look very wobbly. I'm assuming you copied the style Shady used for Cody, so try and make the lines a lot smoother ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

reupoloaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 10:30, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Leopardstar (W) ~ For Approval


Bad News; My Activity = Epic Fail 5725. :( Good News; I have finished the whole warriors series! *cough*For now...*cough* To celebrate the good news, here's Leopardstar as a warrior. ^-^ Deisel is on my flash drive at school, so I have to put him on some other time. Read over the guidelines again to refresh my memory, and am I allowed to have one or two images up at a time? Anywho, Comments?  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 21:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Only one at a time. This is great! The eye looks funny because I always do it the way from Icethroat's tutorial. Make the ear pink darker.--  Night shine   ★  21:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

One at a time. My only problem with this is that it doesn't look much like ... ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:55, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

That's true. It looks kind of neon-ish--  Night shine   ★  21:56, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, try darkening the highlights a tad more. Make the spots more of a reddish brown, and put some tabby stripes on her side-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:05, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. I'm not much of a copyer. I'll see what I can do.  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 14:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I made it as much like her as possible, basically redoing everything except the eye and ear-pink. Anything else?  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 14:44, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Make her more golden. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 14:49, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Make her eyes more golden and make her ear pink redder. Trust me, doing leopardstar is sooooooo confusing, but it works eventualy. I had to come up with ten different trys before I got one to put up and it was bad >P. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:59, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, she's too... brown, and not gold, run the dodge brush over her?-- Dark hallows 21:14, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

On it. ^-^  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 23:51, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Anything else?  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 01:45, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Try making it goldish? Echopaw 01:53, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Try just running the dodge tool over it a couple of times, and that should take care of the color-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:11, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should use the sponge tool on saturate once before dodging. It might help brighten it a little. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:14, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I think the sponge did the trick there. ^-^ I'm happy. Anything else, mis amigos?  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 22:22, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

The only thing I see is that the ear pink should probably be lightened a little more, because it looks the same color as her spots. Then this should be ready :D-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:18, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Ok! ^-^  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 21:42, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Graystripe (KP) - For Approval
Here's Graystripe. Comments? -- Rain whisker 567 14:23, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Nice work. But on the tag, there's a blob of black, with a line connecting to the fur. Delete this, as it shouldn't be here. (It's the lineart, I know, but it needs to be fixed. These need to be removed from all linearts.) Darken the stripe along his back. Good job!Birchy 14:25, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and the stripe on his back.Then maybe make the tuff on his head the same color as his stripe to show it coming over his head. Then do what Birchy said the this should be good. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:51, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

To Birchy, I fixed the lineart the other day, so it shouldn't be a problem after this one. And to Blackclaw, really good, just thin his back stripe and darken it a little more. 15:23, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, do all that. But the stripe needs to come over his head. See his warrior image - Graystripe-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Any other concerns? Rain whisker  21:09, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

You made the stripe too big. It covers the hidden haunch. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:52, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Ashy's right. Look at Cody. There is a stripe on her back, it might help-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:46, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Ash is right. The stripe has hidden the farthest haunch,make the haunch the color of the shading, so it looks right. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  23:39, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Snowdrop- for approval
Since one of the sections is a discussion i guess it is okay to post. This is my first kittypet Angel  Paw  01:37, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

You're going to need to change the eye color Icecloud. It clearly states she has green eyes. But this is very good! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:40, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Angel Paw  01:45, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yep :) Darken the shading, and add some the the head Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:50, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Angel Paw  23:45, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I still cant see shading on the head. Besides that blur all of the shading and add some to the mostly hidden foot. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:01, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Shading is blurred to the max. Is this better? Angel Paw  00:24, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

It might be just the lineart, but she looks kind of crosseyed. It's cute, though.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  17:32, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Angel Paw  00:12, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

It's almost ready, just add some shading to the very top of the head, and her other ears-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:47, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Angel Paw  13:46, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yes! The only thing left that I see is the ear pink. It looks a tad purple, make it more of a light pink. Do that and this should be ready :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:55, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed ear pink Angel  Paw  23:37, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

She looks cross-eyed to me. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  23:40, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed this once how should I fix it again Angel  Paw  00:56, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Honeyfern (A)
This is Honeyfern as an apprentice, please don't put up for deleation! I've already had enough stress today! Just give me some tips! Silverthistle 21:14, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty good for a first time, but could you make it a little more golden like her warrior image? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:16, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes cover the lineart in some places. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:35, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

She doesn't look much like the warrior verision, take the stripes off her chest and make her more golden. Dark hallows 04:43, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

You asked for this not to be declined Silverthistle, but in order for that to happen you either have to work on this or give a reasonable reason why you can't (and prior to actually being away). This hasn't been worked on in a week. Please do so or it will be declined. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:05, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I was very very busy that week, and you may decline it. Silver thistle  03:55, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it won't be declined if you work on it. You have about another two or three days to reupload  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:04, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Cherrytail (KP)--For Approval
Not much to say about this one. Comments? Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 23:03, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Blur the ear pink and the ginger patch around the eyes some more--  Night shine   ★  02:32, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 21:23, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yep! Blur the ginger tipped tail a bit--  Night shine   ♥  02:40, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- better? Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 12:35, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 01:11, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The ginger on her face looks much brighter than the rest... ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:36, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

That's because I smudged it. The second one, I took the colour from a smudged patch. Which one (if any) do you like better? Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 13:35, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I like the first one better--  Night shine   ♥  05:44, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (Ki)- For Approval
There are two discussions up so this should be ok image wise. Heres Goldenkit. Comments? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:33, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I can barely see her ear pink. should it be a little darker? Angel Paw  20:34, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the earpink should be darker, and also add a little more shading, or darken it, on her legs. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:44, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I got the color from her elder version but I can darken it some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:46, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''the earpink color looks weird now but i couldnt see it any other color. I also fixed the shading on her legs. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:17, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading under her chin and on her head-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:06, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The shading wont blur anymore. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:34, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little too reddish and I don't know if this is my computer (weell this isn't mine, it's my Dad's Fireman computer at the warehouse.) but I see a dark smudge on the top of her head. I don't know if that's the shading or not but I guessing so, but I could make wrong judgements...Honeyrose34 00:58, February 3, 2010 (UTC) Stupid computer, won't let me put on my siggie.....

Yes its shading. as for the earpink, I didnt want it to be that color but you cant see it when I make it lighter. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:03, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploadedish I tried a new style of shading. Which is better? Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 17:28, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

The right <font color="#0000FF">EcHoPaW  22:42, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I like the one on the left better. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 23:38, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I liked the one on the left too but I kept getting comments about things I couldn't fix. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:51, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Stormfur (W) - For Approval
Gr...Six more weeks of winter. Woah, that groundhog Phil is such a liar. Anyways how do you like my fail on Stormfur? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 21:22, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

He is really good, just blur the shading more all around, blur the earpink a little more, and maybe add a highlight to his tail. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:24, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't even realize that is was groundhog day today! I was snowboarding....As for the image, blur the shading and highlights. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 21:26, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blured as much as possible. Stupid Phil. You would have seen your shadow anyways, the sun is out. But your so cute little Groundhog! Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 21:36, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the tail highlight so that it fits the curve of the tail and blur it. The highlights on the body still need to be blured more but im not sure what to tell you. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:59, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this better? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 23:14, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Could you blur the highlight on the tail? It looks as if he has a grey tipped tail Angel  Paw  00:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 01:25, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the tail. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 13:31, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 21:57, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

For the highlight on the tail, could you make it more with the curve of the tail like Ashshadow said? I mean, with the dodge tool, make a line that goes along his tail, following the curve, rather than a spot at the top of it. Like Icecloud said, it looks a little like a gry tipped tail. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:43, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better?

He looks much better, just blur the tail more now. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  01:20, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Ice <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines! 01:36, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the earpink a bit larger and blur the tail. Other than that, I can't see anyhting that needs improving. :) Mistyheart 14:10, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfur (W) for approval
I've been wanting to do another cat, but I've been so busy, I chose a pretty simple one. Besides, he didn't have any charart yet.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  23:58, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading some and make the earpink more redish. other than that this is good. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:03, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks alright to me, it just needs to be blurred. Dark hallows 00:27, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add highlights. I don't see any--  Night shine   ♥  01:07, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:08, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I always like them better with highlights--  Night shine   ♥  01:33, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made the earpink a little more red and blurred it, and thickened the shading. I'm still working on how to do highlights. Are there any tutorials on them?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  17:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Look at the apprentice tutorials on the main page. I would link it but I don't know how. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:27, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Warriors Wiki:Charart/Apprentice Tutorials ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  07:07, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:32, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little to big, make it smaller and darker Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:05, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading also needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:03, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:06, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more. This is really good! Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 19:21, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:11, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Heavypaw (A) For Approval
Sorry if I don't remember all of the charart rules, I am new at it. I don't know where the reservation page is. I'm not on the project yet, but I asked to be added at the bottom of the Sharpclaw blank chat thing.

I made this piccy of Heavypaw.



Does this look good? Or should I put his foot back to normal, and keep the leg like that? I made him a little fatter by changing his back, I hope thats okay. His discription said he was thick. -Owlblaze

What did you do to his leg!? It looks like a frog :D. Sign after your message with four of ~. It's good for a first try! I don't think you need to make him fatter.Why do you have two accounts? Owlheart and Owlblaze?--  Night shine   ♥  02:51, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Wait you have three accounts! Oakstar, Owlheart and Owlblaze!--  Night shine   ♥  02:52, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, he has a deformed leg. You need to reserve this and you aren't even part of the project.--  Night shine   ♥  02:53, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, nightfall didn't add me yet. :(. Can you point me to the reservation page? And yeah, lol. I made Owlblaze, forgot the pass. I tried the retreive pass, it didn't work. And when I try and log into Owlheart it freezes up my comp. So I made Oakstar. Its the only one I can log into. -Owlblaze (Oakstar) 03:04, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh okay! You can find the reservation place on the Project Character Art main page.--  Night shine   ♥  03:06, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thank you! I will go make a reservation. Wow, a warrior! May I see some of your charart? -Owlblaze Oakstar 03:09, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I found the reservation part. I am not sure now. It says to just make a new posting here to offer charart. Halp? What do I need to do to reserve him? -Owlblaze Oakstar 03:14, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

What, what the heck? You have three user names? Which one do I put you up as?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:19, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, wait. Never mind. But I think this will have to be declined because you haven't joined yet, and you didn't reserve him.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:21, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, you're now an apprentice, welcome to the PCA! But, I still think this might have to be declined, I'm Sorry!-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:23, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hurrah! Oh, do you think you could put after oakstar: (owlblaze). Because I can't log into that acc, but I love that name. So should I just make a new posting on this page with the piccy again? (I'm not sure how to reserve Heavypaw) **EDIT** Lol forgot siggy -Owlblaze Oakstar 07:08, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

You altered the leg and tail in a funny way. This couldn't be approved. I don't know if it's your computer or you did it, but please don't mess around with the lineart. I know thathe has a deformed leg, but I still don't think this will be approved. Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.10:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Quailflight: It is perfectly acceptable to edit the lineart for the purpose of addig specific characteristics (see Cinderpelt, Oddfoot and Kinkfur). Oakstar: I think by editing the back lineart he looks fat rather than thick-set... perhaps edit that back to the original and try and create the effect with shading instead. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:14, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty good, just add more shading, and maybe erase a little of the top of the deformed leg because it looks like it goes up too far, if you took off a little of how far it goes it might look more natural...? (Do you get what I mean? I know it sounds odd :P) <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

He looks really fat.

-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:54, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I really like it but the leg is very..... strange. <font color="#0000FF">EcHoPaW  17:08, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hm... I don't think I editted the tail. Do you see anything different? Hm.. Okay, so I added more shading, and fixed the length of the leg, and I also make him a bit more skinny. (He tried Jenny cat, and it worked! :D lol) what do you think now:

-Owlblaze Oakstar 06:03, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

You need to erase the line that makes the paw thats usually hidden look round. Sorry if it's not making senc Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:42, February 8, 2010 (UTC)e

Millie (KP)-For Approval
I need to get this approved soon. This might be the only time I get on this week.So, here is Millie. Please don't push me to work to hard. I can only do so much.-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.07:21, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

She's pretty! But I thought she was classic tabby? -checks- Oh, nevermind. The stripes look a little unevenly blurred, though. Dark hallows 09:02, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I tried to blur the stripes more evenly.-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.10:25, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... part of her back line is missing I think, and the stripes on her back (the three little spotish ones) look a little. I dunno. And can you make her stripes lighter? Other then that, its awesome! much better then her piccy in the manga! -Owlblaze Oakstar 10:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the stripe lightening matters, Oakstar. Darkhallows is a senior warrior. He would have told me to make them lighter. Anything else, Project charart? Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.10:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Now Blur the Shading. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 12:06, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Blurred shading. I'm happy now!-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.17:31, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on the body look to thick. Can you thinin it out? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 21:39, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add a few stripes on her soulder and haunch. It looks kinda empty. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:50, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I added stripes on the shoulder and haunches, and thinned out the stripes.Does the tail look okay?-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt. 06:50, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

The shading and highlights need blending - I can see the transition as a hard line. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:01, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

It looks awesome! I love it! -Owlblaze Oakstar 06:06, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Jingo (KP) - For Approval


Guess who's back? :) -blows noisemaker and balloons fall from the sky- I've missed you guys! -huggles- Lucky me! I thought all the kittypets would be made already! But here's Jingo, one of my favorite characters. I couldn't get the furry effect on the stripes like on her loner image, but I'm guessing that since she was groomed by her Twolegs as a kittypet, she her fur wouldn't be as messy...? I didn't take her tail-tip off, because I'm pretty sure that happened in the dog attack. Anyways, comments? ß  ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  20:30, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back! I'm not sure about the tail tip but you need to remove the earpink from the left(our right) ear and darken the shading. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:44, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I did the ear pink as it was done on the approved Princess. I'll darken the shading now. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:18, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I looked and there is no earpink on that ear on Princess. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:22, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Darkened and blurred shading. Better? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:24, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I circled it in red. If you still can't see it, blow it up a few times. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:31, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Erm, there might be a sliver of pink from after Mouse erased it, but we had these discussions on the first few kittypets; the maker of the blanks said that the ear is facing away and tat it wouldn't need pink. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:33, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, ok. I didn't know cats could turn their ears like that. xD Anything else I need to do before I fix the ear pink? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:42, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

She's not a classic tabby  Dark hallows 22:40, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I thought classic tabby were y-shaped markings...? I can't get the furry, smudged effect like on her loner image. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  00:19, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Take a small smudge brush (literally, size 1) and smudge 'em. Welcome back, Blue! Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 00:28, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

I think the y shaped ones are for striped tabbies. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:33, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

'Y' shapes are mackrel, not classic. Dark hallows 10:37, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I made her alot better, but the changes don't seem to be showing... ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  01:50, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, try saving it under a different file name Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:59, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Kay, I saved her under a different file name. How is she now? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  15:18, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Spiderleg (Ki) - For approvaal
I hate it. Dark hallows 22:46, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's really good, don't hate it! I can't see anything really wrong with it. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  22:59, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The way his eyes look, it's like he is cross eyed. And the ear pink should be brighter. M I  N  N  O  W  C  L  A  W  23:58, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I was about to say that. Also, lighten all of him a tad. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 00:00, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and his nose should be a greyish pink. Or something. §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood.

No, the nose looks fine-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:23, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make a nose a teeny bit lighter.

The eyes make him look worried. The ear pink should be more reddish.--  Night shine   ♥  04:40, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

He looks kinda cross-eyed, and the nose needs colored. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  16:38, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

No, the nose is fine. Black cats don't typically have pink noses, they're usually black like them. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:48, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Shadepelt (W)- For Approval
Well, not much to say about her. . . comments? ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  23:11, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more triangular. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 23:22, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Done. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  01:11, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

The midriff shading is too distinct, blend ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:59, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Anything else? ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  19:53, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Is there anything else I need to improve? (Go Saints!) ♥Mouse♥  ♥Heart♥  22:18, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all of the shading some more, and the midriff still looks a little distinct. Also, blur the ear pink some more. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 23:32, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reploaded. '''Curse you, midriff! ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  20:44, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a tiny bit bigger--  Night shine   ♥  02:51, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenfur (A) for approval
hi this is beewing culd u plz approve my brackenpaw? thx



Beewing 18:35, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

The color isnt quite right make him more brown and Make his stripes more distinct if that makes sense. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:39, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... You need ear colour. And Ashshadow's right. Too golden... Lavenderi 22:07, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Also, you always need to sign with the four ~ -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:16, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

He is too yellow. You should work on it or else it will get declined--  Night shine   ♥  02:50, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Mallownose (Kit) - For Approval
His apprentice image was so fun that I did his kit image too XD I think it looks pretty good compared to my last kit. Comments? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:47, February 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * it looks like you could Blur the Right ear pink a bit more. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 20:51, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Saturate the ear pink a bit more, but I love it otherwise.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 23:54, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

I won't be able to edit this till tomorrow, but by saturate do you mean make it a more vivid color or blur it more? (the meaning of that word always confused me, just want to make sure before I do the wrong thing) <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:57, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Uh...I'm not sure either, but since the sponge tool is set for either saturate or desaturate, and when you saturate it it becomes brighter and more ginger-ish, I'm guessing more of a vivid color. Plus, I think the ear pink is blurred really well already, so I don't think it's to blur the ear pink. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 00:13, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded made ear pink brighter, it it better now? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  16:20, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. CBA? -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 22:41, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

A Note About the Blanks
I would just like to make a statement concerning Copyright:


 * Artists released the blanks we use for use here. Unless their original notice includes a statement otherwise, it should be assumed the rights they have given are limited and the artist retains ownership of the lineart.

What does this mean? It means that this wiki cannot give permission for the art to be used in other places. If permission has been granted for usages to other places I would like to know about it, because I don't want my kitten blank anywhere else. I don't even use it for my own characters on the grounds that I wanted it limited only to this website. I will be pursuing and requesting the removal of my kitten lineart from all other websites that are using them.

Thank you,
 * <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:10, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I had granted permission for two different wikis to use our blanks, though I now regret it. I was still a new administrator then. Ever since I have refused to let anyone else use our blanks, though now I'm not sure if I have the right even to do that. The mentioned wikis are here and at the moment I can't find the other one; I'll look for it. Sorry for the inconvenience this caused you. I myself am new to copyright claims and laws, and what I as an administrator am allowed to do. -- Bramble -sama  18:07, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, I see you've already found the other one. -- Bramble -sama  18:47, February 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Copyright law is insane, quite frankly ;) Insane enough that the mess they are has spawned lawyers who are specialists in working out the details of it. Technically ;) Without the permission of the other artist none of the alterations to the warrior blank really should have been done, either... Though I doubt the artist in question will mind it (Though we should be 100% clear about the altered blanks being what they are, is altered by the artists who uploaded them, and make sure credits are provided for the original whose name I can't remember right now and am too lazy to look up). It's excellent that you've limited the number of permissions you granted. I'd love to see those sites have to jump through hoops and battle to get their own blanks the way we did/have/are. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 20:51, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I asked Sandstar (the original artist of the warrior/apprentice blanks) if we could alter her blanks, and she said that we could do whatever we liked with them. (I believe I could dig up a copy of the exact message, if you'd like to see it) I'll try and credit the altered blanks correctly. Is there anything else I should know? Don't worry about too long or complex of a message, I've had to read a college-level textbook and understand it. :) -- Bramble 21:53, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

(This is Nightfall, I haven't signed in yet) I found another site that uses those warrior blanks, but I don't remember the name of it. I'll see if I can find it, and if I can should we do something about it? It's one of those roleplay sites, but it's a blog-like thing. (Kinda hard to explain)--68.51.35.175 23:21, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Kitsu: By alterations does that include the individual images that have had lineart altered (such as Fuzzypelt or Kinkfur, Cinderpelt etc) or just the warrior and apprentice blanks having been altered to make deputy, medicine cat and medicine cat apprentice blanks? (I know the wiki has permission for Sandstar's warrior/apprentice blanks - as Bramble said above - but if they are to have additional credits then I was wondering how far it needs to go)

Does it also include non-project art that has been done such as user images that may have had the blanks altered slightly to acomodate for deformed limbs etc? ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:59, February 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Anytime the lineart gets changed it should be done with the permission of the artists. The fuzzy comes from the fact that in the "Special accommodation" type pixels you're not redistributing the blank. I doubt problems will crop, but when doubt exists it's always best to ask. As for the non-project art... I think clarifications need to be made to ensure that it's not going anywhere but this website. But again, lies in the fuzzy-zone. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:37, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Adding onto what Sandy said- Not sure if this would be any different from that same fuzzy zone- but I've noticed that many people are altering the blanks for holiday gifts (i.e., putting wreaths on a warrior blank to make a christmas blank). I doubt that they are leaving this site, but it's just another thing to take into account I guess... <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  12:22, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Sorreltail (A) -for approval
Well here is my first tortie. tell me how bad it is. Charm Paw  21:55, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't bad at all! But the tortoiseshell patches aren't like her warrior image. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 21:59, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is really beautiful Charmpaw!! All I see is maybe add either more shading or highlights.

22:02, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The white part on the tail should be on the inside.--  Night shine   ♥  22:04, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Maple. Make the patches more like one her warrior's image.

22:05, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I would say just add some more black. The patches wouldn't be exactly the same on both sides of the cat. it's your call though. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:09, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Eekkk, i hate it. is this any better? Charm Paw  23:41, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, this is coming along very well! But the ear pink is a little hard to see, perhaps find a way to define it more? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:44, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yep just darken the ear pink a bit--  Night shine   ♥  02:49, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Jacques (KP) - For Approval
Since two sections are discussion, I figured that it'd be okay to go ahead and post this. Comments and suggestions? -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 22:26, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think he looks great, but his collar and tag look a bit odd... maybe make the tag gold or silver and make the collar one color (as opposed to blue and purple) <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar

Really awsome!! Just do what Insaneular said.

22:33, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Also make the ear pink smaller.--  Night shine   ♥  22:48, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The changes aren't showing on my computer...let me know if I need to try and upload it again. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 23:00, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! But just to be picky, I would say to blend the shading under the ear more. --<span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 05:15, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Which ear? (Also, the changes still haven't show on my computer, should I try uploading under a different file?) -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 17:06, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I would. Just put a delete tag on the old file. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:08, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 19:48, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Wolfheart(W)-For approval
My first warrior! Comments? There are 2 discussions, so this should be equal to 35. §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood.

Blur the shading, it looks pretty uneven.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  23:38, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood.

Its blended well, but the shading looks bumpy. Even it out some more. --<span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 05:12, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and there isn't any earpink. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 05:13, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded If I need to re-do the shading again, just tell me. §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood. 12:43, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Your shading and highlights need a lot of attention with the blend tool. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:52, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I redid the image with a new shading technique I made. Reuploaded §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood. 17:40, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, Swifty, this is great for your first warrior! But the highlights look a tad bright, and the shading a little dark... blur it all alot, and it should help tone it down. Be careful not to blur lineart, 'cause I see you have a little on the front leg. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  18:32, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Any better? §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood. 18:59, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

The shading and highlighta are far too concentrated, look at for reference. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  21:19, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

In her kit picture, the shading is really dark §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood. 23:37, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that her warrior image should have dark shading. Lighten it, it looks way to dark Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:09, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood. 22:43, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks very blurred in some places, and she needs ear pink-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:54, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks blurred along the back and on the tail, it seems there is a thin line of white pixles. She also needs ear pink. Also, the shading & high

lights need blurred, alot. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  23:45, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Poppydawn (Q) - For Approval
I didn't add the white muzzle as I assumed that would have come with age. Constructments? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  13:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

This looks awesome, Sandy:) Make the ear pink a tad bigger, though. -- ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ  16:13, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks Hawk ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:49, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I love this! Blur the stripe on her front left paw a bit more--  Night shine   ♥  19:45, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:04, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken the shading a bit or give it more highlight--  Night shine   ♥  00:32, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hussar (KP) - For Approval
I decided not to add the scar because that was probably from the dogs, therefore he got it after he was a kittypet. Constructments? -- ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ  16:11, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

He's nice! (On the scar, I agree with you; I didn't take Jingo's tail-tip off either). Being picky, the only things I see are blur the highlights a little bit, particullarly on the back, and darken the ear pink a touch. But he's really '''good! ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  18:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)'''

Reuploaded - Thanks, Blue:) -- ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ  19:32, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome. (: I don't see anything else, but, being super picky, if you were just looking for something to do, (xD), then maybe blur the highlight in the middle of the collar. I don't see anything other than that. ß  ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  19:36, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred the highlight. -- ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ  20:53, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ferncloud (A) - For Approval


Which one do you like better? Ferncloud is one of my favourite cats.--  Night shine   ♥  21:37, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

The one closets to your siggie. <font color="#0000FF">EcHoPaW  21:49, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

The one on the right =) It needs ear pink though ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:50, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah I forgot about that.

I'll use the second one then and add ear pink.--  Night shine   ♥  22:12, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I added ear pink.--  Night shine   ♥  22:15, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Patch (KP) For Approval
Here's Patch. I used Mousetalon's Tutorial for the shading, and used another approved image for the eyes. Constructments? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:10, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Make the ear pink smaller and blur the patches on the tail some more--  Night shine   ♥  22:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 23:39, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

What? When was Patch a kittypet? He was a rogue, then a warrior of SkyClan. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:54, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is patch from Tigerstar and Sasha. This is really good Nightwhisker. Maybe darken the nose a little bit. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:59, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - The eyes look very pixelated. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 01:53, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! *face palm* Sorry Nightwhisker, I completely fogot about him! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:07, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad my tutorials helped! Maybe blur the black patch on the head more. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  16:43, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this ok? I tried to fix the eyes, but I don't know if they're ok now... -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:32, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs blending. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:57, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

He's nice! Blur the shading on the collar, and as Mosswhisker said, the eyes look very pixelated. Make the different colours of the eye pixels more similar. Also, I see a patch on the left haunch (the one we can't see) that is completely white, while the rest of the white fur is gray. Darken the shading there. I love your patches, maybe add one or two more to the top of the tail and the tail-tip? It's not nessicary, though; this is very good! B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  21:13, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Aside from what Bluestar said, all I can see is that there's an odd patch of gray on the top of his right (for us) haunch. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:15, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Patch's image in the manga doesn't look like this- he was black and had a white belly, paws, and tail-tip. I have the book. Rain whisker  22:30, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes look kinda dark, you have to cncentrate on them to find the pupils, and they stad out a lot. Maybe brighten them a tad? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:30, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Jake (KP) - For Approval


(M) - ''This should be under the limit seeing as two of the sections are disscussions. If it's over you can take it down.''

Jake is both Scourge's (My favorite cat!) and our famous Firestar's father. What more could you ask for?

Gah this took forever to do! *dies*

Anyways, constructive critisism? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 02:00, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Strange, this isn't how I pictured him. I thought he'd look more like Firestar, since he's his father... But for this image, darken the ear pink. It's really good though! B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  02:17, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

He should be more gingery. The markings on his tail and forehead look strange.--  Night shine   ♥  02:19, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightshine, he looks to cream colored. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:06, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

His pelt looks cream, make it a ginger color. Also, he markings do look odd/strange. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  20:34, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (W)- For Approval
Okay, so there's 36 topics but two of them are unrelated, so this is technically the 35th topic :3 But you can take it down if it's over, somehow. Here's Goldenflower as a warrior, with nicked ear and all. Is she a tad shiny? I've just looked at her elder and queen

images and realised that she's quite pale on those... Comments? Brightfrost 17:16, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is very good, just blur the shading on her back more. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  12:04, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tried to blur the back shading as much as I could. And thanks :D Brightfrost 17:16, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is great!!! Try and blur the shading under her chin a bit more - I can't see anyhting else that needs improving. :D Mistyheart 17:21, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, blurred the chin shading a bit more :) Thanks Misty! Brightfrost 18:27, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

It's the other ear thats nicked in her elder picture. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:25, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Very nice! Just blur the shading on the haunch, back, chest and forehead, and blur all of the highlights a smidge. Darken and blur the ear pink, and, as Ashshadow said, it's the other ear that's nicked in the elder image. This is very good! B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  21:10, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Just blur the ear pink and shading some more.--  Night shine   ♥  02:45, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oatwhisker - For Approval
Oatwhisker of WindClan. Constructments? -- Bramble 23:20, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight on his hind leg looks really light, it sticks out a lot. At least that's my opinion. Maybe blur it a bit more? Otherwise, great job! Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:22, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is awesome, Bramble! Although, the dash in the lineart on his chest is blurred, and there's also minor blurring in many other places, but it is very hard to see so it might not be an issue. seriously, great image though! <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:26, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! The ear pink looks a little big. Everything else is perfect--  Night shine   ♥  00:30, February 9, 2010 (UTC)