Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Mediator blank (spoilers for River of Fire)
Do not read any further if you have not read River of Fire.

In this book, Tree is given the rank of "mediator," and Leafstar herself says it is official. Should we consider creating a blank for the rank? Although none of us can be really sure if any other cats will get it in the future, it does not really matter if there is only one character as of now who fits the description (like River Ripple and the other Cats of the Park cat). 22:10, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

I think he needs a blank.

Same. But I thjnk we discussed this in the characters page? Needletail 🐾 #Litten 22:11, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Well we discussed it as a rank. We did not discuss creating a blank for it. 22:17, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

The mediator role should have a blank of its own, even if Tree is the only cat who will ever have it. It's an official, completely different role compared to the others in the Clans. 22:33, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

It's an official role, and most definitely is not a warrior, apprentice, leader, deputy, medicine cat, or an elder. We should have something to represent Tree, because he's also not a rogue or loner anymore. We might see more of this role in the future, who knows. (  23:12, 5/05/2018  ) ​

I think the mediator should be it’s own blank. Who knows, maybe some cats in other Clans might become mediators too. Should mediator have it’s own page too, as an official rank? Or do we have to wait to see if it’ll be in the allegiances? 02:58, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

Probably take that to PW. Anyway, are we in support of a mediator receiving a blank? If that is the case, if there are no objections, I will soon be setting up a forum where people can submit their blanks. It will basically have the same format as the deputy blanks, the unknown resident blanks, etc - two weeks to post your blanks, two weeks for a vote. 03:06, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

I'm in support of mediator getting a blank

Just created the forum, make sure to put in your blanks at the mediator blank artist. 04:41, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Bellaleaf and Firestar
so if her and firestar looking the same is ruled as a mistake, why are taking stripes from what is a mistake description, and combining them? we aren;'t supposed to do that, and looking like a character can mean more in just pelt colours. (body types, faces, whatever) 20:48, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

"She looks just like Firestar!" is the exact quote. She is also called pale orange right before that. Her base color does not need to be tweaked, as she is also called pale orange many many many times throughout Ravenpaw's Farewell and subsequent books.

im also gonna add that she's never called a tabby anyway, that's a wiki description, so really the stripes matching is optional, and seems an unnecessary cosmetic tweak. 06:19, May 21, 2018 (UTC)

If she is predominantly called pale orange then I think the description "she looks like Firestar" should be considered as an error. I don't think she needs to be tweaked at all if that is the case.

I don't think the tweak is necessary, either.

I do agree they should be alts, but also agree that it shouldn't be tweaked. Needletail 🐾 #Litten 03:32, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

Have we agreed upon not tweaking these images, and considering the "looking like Firestar" comment to be a mistake, then?

I agree. 04:23, May 28, 2018 (UTC)

Hunters with warrior blanks
I was not around for the discussion, I do not think so, so I am just going to bring it up here. For some cats that show up in Thunderstar's Echo, the allegiances have them specifically listed as a hunter, and yet we have warrior blanks for them. How do we know that warrior equals a hunter? The term "warrior" has not even been coined yet. They are hunters, we have no proof they are warriors. "Clan cat" does not equal to warrior, nor does "hunter," unless there is a cite I am completely missing. So I believe that we should remove the warrior images from those pages, unless we would want to create a blank for the hunter role. 02:46, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

Addition: I know this was created a while back, I know. But I want to add my two cents in. I know there are a few cats called warriors in the book, so those should stay. But everyone who is not called a warrior should not get the blanks. A hunter is not a warrior unless there is proof. And the allegiances for Thunderstar's Echo on the Wiki is wrong. There is no instance of "warriors" in the allegiances at all. 02:52, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

I must have missed out on the old discussion. I do not think they should count, because they were just called warriors. Not even everyone was, just like two or three ish. And it wasn't an official rank, either. So I don't think they should have the blank.

I think the hunters should count as their own rank. Only two cats in the book are called warriors, while everyone else is called otherwise. Also given the fact the allegiances have the hunters as a rank. I agree the warrior images should be removed from the pages. 03:22, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

I agree with everyone about about them not being warriors and should have their own rank. Needletail 🐾 #Litten 03:32, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

theyre still listed as warriors in the allegiances, so no, i dont believe they need blanks just for being hunters. they simply just have yet to build the traditions around any of the ranks. its also used more than once, so the term obviously exists and has been coined. 05:55, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

They are not listed as warriors in the allegiances, though. The wiki says they are, but that is because we do not have any other input in the allegiances. In the allegiances in Legends of the Clans, they are listed as hunters. 06:18, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

that one is my bad, wrote thatw hen I woke up. I still stand by the fact more thaat the term obviously exists sice it is used multiple times, there is a warriors den, and we had a discussion and agreed on it. 06:53, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

I want to join the art group

Mentorship
This was a thing brought a while back and was around at the start of PCA. People here have had mentors and I was mentored by Hawkfire myself, and due to her teachings with me in the way of art I have been a very active supporter of the idea of mentorship, whether it be in PCA or in the wiki. I also suggest this because I have mentored several users and have found it to be both a bonding experience and a sharing of skills. I would either have a lesson planned for a join.me, or said user would ask for me to teach them what they wanted to learn, whether it would be patterns, shading, stripes, etc. Since we have new users wanting to join, I believe that it would be a good experience to bring back the mentorship. I am not sure if we would need a due process, a nomination, or if someone comes here and asks "can I have a mentor" and either requests someone / picks people who are available, I do not know, we will have to figure that out if we even want to coin the idea of mentorship. Thoughts?

Mentorship in this project should be a thing, imo. It helped me immensely (read: I was taught by Icy <3) and I feel it's an important thing to have for users that learn better with a teacher. I don't think we need the process, but I think we should have a list of active people available and what programs they use, and a note to ask one of said users for help.

As long as this is not a requirement of the project's leads, I'm fine with it. Not everyone has the patience for mentoring, so we shouldn't impose it on users who do not want it.

I think it could work! I never had a mentor but I really could have used the help. Would it be weird that I, a senior warrior, still get someone else to mentor me...? 04:22, May 28, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, anyone can have a mentor. 04:39, May 28, 2018 (UTC)

Awesome I just hope people won’t judge me for being a senior warrior and needing a mentor. 04:57, May 28, 2018 (UTC)

Charart contests
Okay, bear with me - I have another idea. So all projects have FAs, and I was wondering, if PCA should have one. But I do not think that should be an article - perhaps we could have a charart contest? We could have a host and perhaps they could decide the theme for said month (or timespan) and have contests. This was brought up a while ago but it was shot down, and I am just bringing it up now to see if opinions have changed. 04:09, May 28, 2018 (UTC)

I don’t really know what you mean, but it sounds fun! 04:20, May 28, 2018 (UTC)