User talk:Moons-A-Glow Werecat/Archive 1

SnowedLightning (talk) 20:02, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

re:
im gonna keep doing it until you provide legitimate cites lmao, warriors is not real life. 19:13, June 23, 2015 (UTC) .trollsky what's a "cite"?

to trollsky ok, I have narrowed my changes down to make you happy. i'm an expert on animals, so I've put the relevant-to-the books things in.

I searched up canines on Google; they are dogs. Canines aren't foxes or wolves. In Into the Wild, on page 12, Rusty sees a fox, which he knows isn't cat or dog.--Songheart (talk) 19:36, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

foxes' family are dogs, like wolves.

That is true, but there is a difference between the words "canines" and "Canidae." Canines is another word for dogs, and Canidae is the family of dogs, wolves, and foxes. Now enough is enough. --Songheart (talk) 19:42, June 23, 2015 (UTC)Songheart

ok, I will leave that, but before removing my badger edit please look at what I've written. oh, and down the page, it says brakenfur was injured by a badger's blunt claws.

not until you put a source for the goddamn thing. and sign your message when you leave one on my page, thanks. 19:53, June 23, 2015 (UTC) .trollsky, I don't know how to attack a source. and it says down the page that they have blunt claws, so I don't see why you insist on saying sharp.

in this case youre wanting the original series, so itll be r|os1| (page number) }, inside brackets. and im reverting it because i trust the source, and you havent provided one. 19:58, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

provide the page number and ill add it in, then. 20:00, June 23, 2015 (UTC) .trollsky, I added the link to Twilight but that's all I could do. please have a look at it.

its been added. 20:13, June 23, 2015 (UTC)

its basic information about foxes, and its not implying they have better hearing at all. 15:51, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

yes it does? its at the end of the sentence. 15:54, June 24, 2015 (UTC

ok, but that's not in the books, so it's not that relevant, and I don't know how to put a link on my thing about cats.

thats because the erins write them as being diurnal rather than nocturnal, for whatever reason. 17:39, June 24, 2015 (UTC)

Re:
Um...because Splashpaw is an actual character in the books, and Fempaw is not. I'm sure you meant Fernpaw, but she's Ferncloud now, and there was no need to create a new page. 13:24, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

because fernpaw is ferncloud now and splashpaw doesnt have a new name? 13:25, July 29, 2015 (UTC) ok, i have my rising storm book with me right now, and it says "Fempaw" twice.

Re:
Then it's just a typo. Which page is it on? I have the book too. 13:31, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

its in her trivia, we dont make pages for cats with mistaken names if we're 100% sure its them. :/ 13:31, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

^ Same as above. And I have the reprinted version, and I don't see FEMPAW. It's FERNPAW. 13:36, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Re:
It looked out of place where it was. It shouldn't be in the introduction.... but then again, I'm not sure where it would go. Sorry, sometimes I undo the wrong things. =\

Tallstar and Jake
Please refrain from removing the information from the Mates page about Tallstar and Jake. We have multiple citations from Kate Cary herself to support this being on that page. If you continue to remove this, it will be considered vandalism, as you are removing valid citations and information.

you know trollsky isnt around anymore right? and theres a cite for tall and jake, so dont remove it. u know its listed under a different section? for a reason? Nubface (talk) 08:14, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Your message on Trollsky's talk page
Hi there, Moons-A-Glow. Unfortunately Trollsky is unable to reply to you, as he left the wiki a few weeks ago. In regards to Tallstar and Jake, Kate Cary has confirmed that they were indeed mates, and that goes on the page, regardless of what anything above says. In fact, that description is rather outdated and is intolerant of homosexual couples such as Tallstar and Jake. It would be very nice if you'd stop removing it, as we have other, more important things to edit now that we have two new books out. Thank you! 08:20 Tue Sep 1

Tallstar and Jake are the only confirmed gay couple right now. But there may be hundreds of homosexual cats within the books; we just don't have any info. The Erins aren't really allowed to outright saw that cats are gay in the books, due to the books being mostly directed at children. I find it incredibly stupid that nothing can be said in the books, but unfortunately until people become more tolerant of these things they just can't. 08:34 Tue Sep 1

i know, I've seen documentaties. but youtube videos aren't the way to go with it. 22:32, December 27, 2015 (UTC)

other wikias aren't a valid source as far as I know, and speculations shouldn't be in the article anyway. 22:55, December 27, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Breezepelt
Because you're adding it wrong. If you check the book, the actual quote says:

This has nothing to do with Brokenstar. Lionblaze should never have been born. None of them should. she's dead, now it's your turn, Lionblaze.

We put Hollyleaf is brackets to let people know he is talking about Hollyleaf, but that's not exactly what he says. The quotes themselves also do not have links added to it, it just seems to make it messy that way. 22:29, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

I just explained that. The links make the quote look messy and it doesn't belong, and the brackets show he is talking about Hollyleaf but it is not exactly what he said. Please leave that quote alone, it is fine as it is. 21:14, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

Image uploads
Moons, I have recently deleted one of your uploads multiple times, and I'm not sure you're seeing why I'm deleting it. It contains art theft of this image, and this means the image is not yours to use. Please refrain from continually reuploading that image, as it does not belong to you, and art theft is not permitted on this wiki. Should you continue to reupload that image, you will be temporarily blocked. Please remember to read the image policy, and ask if you have any questions.

Why your wiki is wrong
Okay, I've snooped around on your wiki, and as an avid cat lover and cat owner, I'm here to tell you why your wiki is so wrong on so many levels.

1. Newsflash: cats do have predators. You don't have any citations whatsoever for the information you are providing. I've read stories about cats and dogs both being taken or eaten by predators. I would never let my cats outside because I don't want anything to happen to them. What's even worse, the wrong people could read this and think it is okay to abandon their pets because "cats have no predators." That is not okay under any circumstances.

2. You have abused your admin rights as seen here: http://www.cats-have-no-predators.wikia.com/wiki/Special:BlockList You downright ban users who disagree with you and edit their comments to make it seem as if they are agreeing with you. You even used caps to yell at someone. You are an unfair, biased admin. If I were to disagree with you on your wiki, you would probably ban me.

Large birds of prey have been known to kill cat as well as feral dogs such as dingos. Cats have many predictors including humans. 22:35, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

Re:
Does it say it in the actual book, or just the subpage? It could be someone's writing style. In order to properly cite something, you need the book and page number, as the chapter only cite works for digital novellas only, not actual printed books,

But how aren't they ghosts? I don't actually see the point in the trivia- not everyone can see them unless they make themselves known, they can often be pretty translucent as well (such as Maggottail or Mapleshade), and they're known to fade with time. It's akin to being called a ghost, imo, just without the word "ghost" being used.

I didn't undo that. You'll need to ask the user who undid the edit as to why they made that choice.

Tigerstar
How to do a correct cite:

{ { r | (book title initials) | (page number) } }

Example:

{ { r | tr | 309 } }

would give:

Revealed in Tallstar's Revenge, page 309

Other example:

{ { r | gc | chapter 3 } }

would give:

Revealed in Goosefeather's Curse, chapter 3

This would be used for eBooks. In some cases, the initials of the book pop up as "unknown", in which case put the the initials of the arc (power of three=p3 i think) and then what number it is in that series. For example:

{ { r | p35 | 242 }}

would give:

Revealed in Long Shadows, page 242

It's okay; I didn't know how to do cites at first either. Hope this helps for future reference! Warriorcat1195 (talk) 22:52, February 1, 2016 (UTC)

Re:
Two healthy cats, Swoop and Bright Stream, were killed by birds. However, birds of prey have also gone after healthy cats more than that. In TST, an entire group of cats were attacked by eagles, and most of the group were healthy adults. In Moonrise, Stormfur almost gets caught by an eagle. Later in Moonrise, Crag has to save Stormfur from a hawk. I'm pretty sure that those aren't the only times that cats have been attacked by eagles, but I can't think of any more. Additionally, there have been real life cases of hawks, eagles, and owls attacking domestic cats. Cats aren't the most common prey of large birds, but it's not unheard of that they'd attack cats.

Secondly, it doesn't matter how often cats say "stupid furball" rather than just "furball", you need to find a cite for it. Unless the cite already on the page specifically states that they always say "stupid furball", it's not good enough.

I'm sorry, but you're going to have to find proper cites for both "stupid furball" and "cats have no predators" before you can put them on the pages.  12:37 Sat Feb 6 

Look, buddy, I don't want to argue with ya. But just because only two cats have actually been killed by birds of prey (not counting kits here, since they're pretty small and could be mistaken for mice or something.) in the books doesn't mean that the birds don't try to prey on cats sometimes. Bright Stream and Swoop aren't stupid just because they were caught, they legitimately couldn't get out of the way. Cats hunt mice. Sometimes, the cats miss or the mice get out of the way before they're killed. Cats are still the predators of mice. Same goes for birds of prey and cats. I'm also gonna point out that just because Swoop and Bright Stream are the only cats we know for sure have been killed by birds of prey, doesn't mean they're the only ones who have been in the series. There are cats with unknown causes of death, cats that we don't know have died, and cats that haven't been mentioned, who may have been killed by birds of prey. Am I making sense here? And yes there have been cases of domestic cats being taken by birds of prey and real life. It's not common at all, but it has happened.

Now I'm gonna drop this before it turns into an argument. Getting worked up over something this trivial would be childish. If you still believe that cats have no predators, whatever. None of my business, believe whatever you want. But do not add things like that to articles without a proper cite, either from the books or one of the Erins.  13:30 Sat Feb 6 

Birds of prey
"Cats have never been killed by birds in real life" Hahaha! You're funny.ThirteenthStar (talk) 17:25, February 7, 2016 (UTC)

Archiving
Archiving is storing a paper trail of your talk page and the messages left on it. An example would be what I've done here. It is against the rules, due to many warnings being given in the form of talk page messages. Wiping your talk page essentially gets rid of those messages. In your case, you have been warned many times before, so it looks like (to me, for example) that you are trying to get rid of those warnings. You would store your messages in a page named something like User talk:Moons-A-Glow Werecat/Archive 1.

You have very much had multiple warnings in regards to your claims that cats have no predators, and you using your own (uncited) wiki as a citation for it. Using uncited material to back up your statement is against the rules as well, and you have been told about it multiple times. Your wiki is not a legitimate source of information, and those are considered warnings, and very legitimate ones. Just because you find them annoying does not make them any less valid.

Anyways, you basically copy and paste all of the messages on this page onto the link I showed you, and then hit save.