Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Apprentice Tutorials

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' To note: to avoid conflict in the creation of tutorials, please cross out a topic of the tutorial you want to make and put in Reserved by USER'' in brackets next to it. This way, there wouldn't be any unneeded conflicts. Bear in mind that each "topic" holds a minimum of two tutorials with the exception of texture styles and different smudged shading styles. Happy tutorial making ~ ''' 14:14, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Tutorials Needed
So i came up with a couple of tutorials that could be necessary. Feel free to add to this list.

Programs/Tools

 * Photoshop tools/layers explanation
 * Paint Tool Sai tools/layers explanation Reserved by SNOWDAPPLE
 * paint.NET tools/layers explanation
 * Understanding of layers
 * GIMP tools (RESERVED BY 00:32, November 17, 2015 (UTC))

General

 * Plain cat shading tutorial
 * White cat shading tutorial

Method

 * Blurred shading (1) (2)  [reserved by BCPrincess73]
 * Smudged shading (1) ( 2 ) RESERVED BY
 * Explaination of light sources
 * Highlights  Belllastar (talk) 22:33, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Shading tint Reserved by

Advanced

 * Understanding of how cat anatomy affects the fall of shadows/highlights. E.g. File:Mistystar.deputy.alt2.png
 * Understanding of shadows/highlights

Method
'' Note: Users may present in their different styles of texture. These are just some general styles I've noticed. ''
 * Tabby-smudge style
 * Paintbrush style  Belllastar (talk) 22:26, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Blurred style
 * Smudged style
 * Airbrush style

Advanced

 * Understanding light and fur texture {RESERVED BY SUNJAW}
 * Texture/shading combo

Tabbies

 * Smudging/blurring tabby stripes (reserved by 22:21, November 16, 2015 (UTC))
 * Textured tabbies (1) (reserved by 21:15, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Tortoiseshells

 * Many different styles of tortoiseshells. Dappled, patched, etc. (1) (Reserved by ) (2) (Reserved by 15:24, November 16, 2015 (UTC))

Fleckled/Mottled

 * Flecked cat
 * Speckled cat (1) {RESERVED BY SUNJAW}
 * Mottled cat (1) (Reserved by 00:23, 17, 11, 2015 )

Matching

 * Matching an image (Reserved by 15:15, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Tweaking

 * Tweaking the color of an image
 * Removing a patch
 * Shading tweaks on different cases

11:01, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

=Tutorial Approval= Please post within this section to have your tutorial approved by PCA.

'Please post your tutorials under this section. Burntclaw will come around and approve the tutorials with "Approved.". Please see the tutorials needed below.

Eyes Tutorial ~ For Approval

 * I personally updated and saved to my computer long before this was opened. Might as well share my hard work around. Here's the credits for the edits I made:


 * Queen - Bluestar
 * Softpaw – Half Moon
 * Ancient Cat – Hawk Swoop
 * StarClan - Bluestar
 * StarClan kit – Mosskit
 * Dark Forest – Clawface
 * Cats of the Park – Riverstar
 * Early Settler - Shadow 07:52, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Could you add the Cats of the Park blanks? Also, you might as well state that this is for reference, and that eye shadow changes according to the selected light source. 08:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

I think you should get rid of the female eyes, just in case you'll have to update again based on the gender neutral thing on the PCA talk page 14:28, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload Cats of the Park was already there, it was just cut off. I added the cut off ones to the bottom. I made every eye the male version but since technically the queen still has eyelashes, I don't think I can do anything about that yet. 23:15, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

This is going to be a bit of a pet peeve, but can you please use proper grammar? I know it's minor and stupid, but given that these are supposed to be tutorials, it should be "charart's light source". But that should also be tweaked anyways, since eye style isn't dependent on a source and can be whatever style you pick, as long as they don't look cross-eyed. I think having other examples wouldn't hurt too... and can you break up the columns a bit more as well? They appear a bit cramped.

Okay, perhaps give me exactly what you want me to write as I'm not good with these things >< I'm not too sure about other styles since I have enough as there is. I'll try to make it not look so crowded. 21:50, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload Is that better? 21:43, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Shading Tutorial ~ CBA
It's too big, isn't it? 21:05 Mon Nov 16

Approved. and it can be resized downwards. 23:23, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

I'm actually gonna take this back here. The shading on this is too flat, and that's what a lot of the tutorials that were already on the page are getting eliminated for. Could you possibly fix this? 00:56, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

I'll redo the last few frames to fix the shading. 1:52 Tue Nov 17

Re-uploaded 15:18 Wed Nov 18

CBA? 12:39, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Tabby Tutorial(1) ~ For Approval
mm oh my god, idc about shading >.> 22:30, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

There's some grammar mistakes I can see 01:11, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Can you point them out for me? as that MS Paint apparently does not have spell checker? 02:01, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded Geez, that was a lot of edits... 03:27, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry! Second paragraph. It said you instead of your 03:38, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded  03:44, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

"Extremely" is misspelt in the shading paragraph. 12:39, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

"Finally" is capitalized when it shouldn't be in the last paragraph. ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 13:47, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

It says access instead of excess, and I think it's supposed to be outside edges. Both in last paragraph. 14:56 Thu Nov 19

Which shading paragraph, Burnt? 17:07, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Speckled Cat Tutorial ~ For Approval
Here is the video. I am having trouble adding it to the wiki, but it is done. 01:19, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Shading Tint Tutorial ~ CBA


I see nothing wrong with this! CBA? 13:04, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

GIMP tools walkover - For Approval
07:16, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

SAI tools tutorial - For Approval
I do not know how to upload this to the wiki but if someone could explain that would be great

Here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd7O5WC6jmo&feature=youtu.be 15:10, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Vote on tutorials that need updating/elimination
Because it has been a long time since the apprentice tutorials have been open/updated, many of the information here will be deemed as outdated, and as result, there will be a vote to keep/redo /eliminate some of these tutorials. Cast your vote under the heading if you think it should be redone/eliminated or if it should stay. If you think it should be redone or eliminated, put and state if you want it redone or simply gotten rid of. If you vote to keep the tutorial, put down and state the reason why. If you are the OA of the tutorial and happen to wish for a redo on your own tutorial, then you may simply bring it up under the heading with. STATE YOUR REASON AS TO WHY. If a tutorial receives five votes of yay, then it will be eliminated from the page. If it receives five nay votes then it shall stay was it is. The eye tutorial and the shading placement both need automatic updating due to new blanks and such. When a vote has reached five of either yay or nay, I will come around and render the votes and the reasons as valid, then remove/keep the tutorials as per community consensus.

Only apprentices and above can vote. 05:37, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229071938%21PCA_Tut.png - Fill it in with the paint bucket (GIMP) with a dark gray color.

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229071949%21PCA_Tut.png - Make a new layer. Name it "Shading" and with a size 9 black brush, add the various shading areas in.

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072127%21PCA_Tut.png - Blur by going to "Gaussian Blur" and blur it at any rate between 15.0 and 40.0.

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072015%21PCA_Tut.png - This is optional. Create a new layer and with white, dot areas that you'd have highlights on.

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072056%21PCA_Tut.png - Now, blur it with the same rate you blurred your shading at. Change the layer mode to multiply.

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072139%21PCA_Tut.png - Make a new layer. This is for the ear pink. With the path tool, make a triangle. Press enter on your keyboard, then fill it in. Then, press Ctrl + Shift + A. Blur your ear pink.

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072159%21PCA_Tut.png - Eyes now. Go on the background layer and put in four pixels. I used blue. For the eye color, I usually put one lighter pixel at the top on the left side, underneath it with a tad darker color, then a really darker color. Then I put two pixels for the pupil and white.

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229073355%21PCA_Tut.png - On the background layer fill it in with a color you haven't used in your charart before. Then color select it and press delete on your keyboard on every layer. You now have a clean picture, ready to be put for approval. 03:12, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Eliminate?/Redo?

 * ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I can redo it with a video. 06:09, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * because the OA wants a redo, then I will archive this and delete the image from the tutorial page. Icy can put up the new version under the approval section. 07:23, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * yeah blotchy shading and that. 20:45, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * No real light source, either. 21:09 Mon Nov 16

Here is how I make my torties:

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072313%21PCA_Tut.png First colour pick the line art and put it on a new layer and colour in the background with the dark base colour, usually black or dark brown

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072323%21PCA_Tut.png Then add another layer and add splashes of a lighter colour, usually a shade of ginger, and smudge with circle brush 3 at a rate of 60, and then blur at a rate of 25-30

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072332%21PCA_Tut.png You can repeat step 2 for every colour you want, but adding more than 3 usually looks too busy, so try to stick with 2-3 different colours.

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072347%21PCA_Tut.png Then add another layer for shading. I use solid black, but any dark colour would work. Just paint it where the shading would go, erase where the highlights would be, and blur really well.

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072406%21PCA_Tut.png Then lower the layer’s transparency until you have a nice balance between shading and coat colour. I set it to 39

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072417%21PCA_Tut.png Then add one more layer for the ear pink and eye colour

http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/1/17/20121229072427%21PCA_Tut.png Now the most important step, go to the line art layer and select outside the line art (using fuzzy select). Then go through all the layers hitting Crtl+X and that will get rid of all the waste on the outside.

And there's your finished tortoishell. I would probably be told to lighten the shading, but I'm partial to dark shading so it looked fine to me. There's lots of different kinds of tortieshells, like a dark one like Redtail, tortieshell and white like Cherrytail and calico like Poppyfrost.

Eliminate?/Redo?

 * it looks grey, and this contracts with the new tortoiseshell≠tortoiseshell and white rule. 08:05, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 22:24, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:57 Wed Nov 18
 * 14:57 Wed Nov 18



Eliminate?/Redo?

 * 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 22:25, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * no. This was one of my best references for my first tortie
 * I used this tutorial because it is very realistic, and it is the base for my style of torties. 1:16 Tue Nov 17
 * no. 03:25, November 17, 2015 (UTC)



Eliminate?/Redo?

 * 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 22:19, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 00:33, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1:18 Tue Nov 17
 * 03:26, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * 03:26, November 17, 2015 (UTC)



Eliminate?/Redo?

 * 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 22:19, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought reasoning was a requirement for voting... And this looks ok
 * 1:38 Tue Nov 17
 * link is back, 03:27, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Here is some ways to change up the lineart to match the character decription better. A few things to make sure of:
 * Make the new lineart thick
 * Check the box that says "Hard Edge" when erasing to make sure you get it all
 * Double check to make sure there's no waste

Chances are this is the only type of lineart change you will need to make. Its simple. Just erase the ears tip and draw in the new gap using true black. Some good examples are Lionheart, Yellowfang and Bluestar. Another likely lineart change is patchy fur. You can see some examples on Dappletail and Stoneteller, or for really patchy fur, Running Horse Pretty much the same steps as the torn ear. All lineart changes are basically the same. Erase, redraw, fiddle with it, put it for approval. Easy peasy. Heres some more abnormalities: Stumpy tails like Halftail and my favorite, Berrynose Ragged fur like Silverhawk and Raggedstar Twisted feet like Oddfoot and Cinderpelt Tuffed ears like Redtail and Tawnyspots A crooked jaw like Crookedstar

Eliminate?/Redo?

 * link is back. 08:10, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * red links. 22:26, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Redlinks are gone so it is fine. 1:39 Tue Nov 17



In the first picture, (The top left one) you see that in a new layer, I put black in pencil where I want my shading to be. There are many different spots to put shading, remember, not only one way.

In the second picture, (The top right one), you see that I am going to guassian blur it. To guassian blur, go to Filter, then blur, and then guassian blur. Put it at a rate from around 15 to 23. Mine is at 20. Once you have set the rate you wish to blur it at, click OK.

Lastly, lower the opacity of the shading layer. It depends on how dark you want your shading. In the bottom picture, you see that I put my opacity at 38.7.

When you are done, you can always tweak the shading, such as using the blur tool to blur some parts, or changing the opacity number. If you blur some parts, make sure to put it at a higher rate. Remember that you can get very creative with shading, there isn't just one way to do it.

Eliminate?/Redo?

 * 11:29, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * tbh it's kinda flat, and there's no real light source 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's kinda confusing for me to read. 22:29, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * i dont think we should be using 'flat shading' and stuff as excuses for eliminating these tutorials. its just kind of dumb...but idk, since gaussian blur is so unreliable i think we should just remove this one and have a tutorial on how to smudge or blur shading with the tools 06:21 Tue Nov 17
 * i dont think we should be using 'flat shading' and stuff as excuses for eliminating these tutorials. its just kind of dumb...but idk, since gaussian blur is so unreliable i think we should just remove this one and have a tutorial on how to smudge or blur shading with the tools 06:21 Tue Nov 17



Eliminate?/Redo?

 * shading's over blurred
 * it looks really flat tbh. It's an interesting method, though. 11:17, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * it's a little confusing for me. 22:31, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, if you have a basic idea of how this works, it's ok
 * This one is nice. 1:41 Tue Nov 17



Eliminate?/Redo?

 * 11:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 22:32, November 16, 2015 (UTC)



Eliminate?/Redo?

 * 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Red link. 22:33, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 01:26, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * this teaches the basics of blurred linear art, and ink is back. 03:39, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Although we don't honestly have any blurred linear art problems at these times, I think this still should be here and it's quite clear. ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 05:07, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 * Although we don't honestly have any blurred linear art problems at these times, I think this still should be here and it's quite clear. ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 05:07, November 17, 2015 (UTC)



Eliminate?/Redo?

 * 11:04, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * 14:06, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * something I wanted to point out. They said they made it ginger, and that's not ginger. That's a brown at best. 15:16, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * That, and I think it shouldn't be specific to Photoshop. 22:36, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * should have a GIMP tutorial though
 * There are plenty of Gimp-specific tutorials 1:45 Tue Nov 17