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Ferncloud - Silver Nomination
She has lots of information, and will appear in the OTS books, but that can't stop her from being Silver. Comments? Icestorm Hi There! 23:14, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, her history looks good but there are a few issues with citations; her mentors need to be cited and a LOT of her family members either need page numbers or don't have citations at all. I feel a bit uneasy putting it up for silver knowing this, but how do you guys feel? I won't stop it just cause of my own opinions. insan TA STE  THE  RAIN BOW  eu lar  02:48, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the citations are needed. She has a huge family so we can't just leave them without references. Not to mention she is one of the vandals' favourites for adding false family. I'll see if I can do some of them ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  14:07, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Woah, now when I go to her page-well all article pages I see nothing at all! Just a dumb loading sign. *sighs* Well I'll see if I can add some on my sister's computer. Icestorm Hi There! 16:03, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

All the citations are in place excepting Poppyfrost's kits as I don't own TFA ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:10, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I can add that for you, Sandy. I really don't Ferncloud is ready for Silver. Her information looks like it's the bare minimum. She appears about as much as Icecloud and look what her page looks like now after I've gone through and added all of her appearances in the books. → Sky feather  22:15, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Insane found the page no for me. I'll look at her appearances now =) ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:17, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is this being worked on or should this be put off voting until it is more complete? insan TA STE  THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  22:00, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'll work on her. Dark hallows 09:26, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm so sorry Insane - I've barely been here this week to even think about it. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:35, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Don't feel bad Sandy, you weren't the nominator so it's not technically on you, but if you're working on it I'll leave this up for a bit longer.

I'm getting there. I've done up to Starlight as of now. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:30, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

All done, except TFA as I don't have the book. If someone could go and look up the page numbers for Ferncloud in their copy and add her TFA history that would be good. I don't know how much is missing. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:40, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for all your hard work on this, Sandy. Any objections before it goes to vote? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  22:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Puttin' up for vote now. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:17, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Speckletail - Silver
Her artical is well put together. The only concern is that I saw was: Missing history sections need filling in.Posted by EU. Other than that, theres no other concerns. Is she ready for silver? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  02:29, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

History needs to be filled out. Quite some of it is missing.``– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt ``09:31, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and also her family needs to be expanded and cited, but I can do that tonight. Still, FirePelt, are you going to work on her history? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  11:43, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'll try, but I dont have the whole series of warriors, so i'll need to scrounge histroy. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  16:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

You can get a lot of it from the HarperCollins Website which has browse Insides for all the books. They don't have the complete book but it can help you with at least some mentions. Sorry, but I will have to do her family tomorrow, it's late now and I was busy, but tomorrow afternoon I will copy and paste in her family. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  02:28, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Mkay, I just cited most of her family, and forget what I said about expanding, I thought she needed family added through Tigerstar, but I remembered that she's not related to Tigerstar, she's related to Goldenflower, so the only family issue left is that Snowkit and Swiftpaw need citations. If you get the history up to par and they're still not added I can hunt for them though. (I'm just really tired right now XD) <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:22, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Got Snowkit cited, and I'll do Swiftpaw tomorrow-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 09:42, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Swiftpaw has been cited :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:34, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reminder for Silver Nomination
This is starting to become an issue, and I don't want it to be. I'm pointing fingers when I say this, I just want it to be known. If you are planning on nominating a character for Silver, please make sure that they actually have all of their information, and not what you think is all of their information. If there is only one or two sentences per book section, odds are that it is not complete. Also, I think the nominator should be responsible for filling in information that the other members dictate is needed. It's really not fair to nominate a character and leave it to others to put citations and everything else up. However, that's not to say other members can't help with the character page, but I think the majority of it should be the responsibilty of the nominator. <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  23:46, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this up, Sky, I was thinking of putting up this exact issue earlier today XD (We think very alike) Again, I don't mean to sound harsh on this, but when you nominate an article for silver, it's not just on whim; it's because you really feel the article is ready. Meaning, do most of your silver prep before nominating- check over the history, make sure it's thorough, make sure everything's in the correct format and cited properly. Then post it. The reason we have other people check over it is to look for little problems that might need to be fixed, not to all work on the article together, that's what the content drive is for. (Speaking of which, we need a new one... but that's another issue :P) And Sky is also right about the fact that the nominator should be responsible, to use PCA as an example, when you have an image up for approval, other people don't go and change it for you, they point out issues and you fix them. Again, this is not exactly like PCA, other people are welcome to pitch in, but sometimes it seems like people nominate an article then just leave it to others to finish it. I try not to sound like a strict, tough, leader often, but this is something we should focus on more. :/ <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:54, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Character Categories

 * This is something I thought about and Bramble also suggested to me: to rank characters in certain categories. Here's the idea I have for the breakdown, which is of course open for debate along with the question of whether we implement them at all. Something like this:
 * Main Characters: Characters that have a point of view in the books. Example: Firestar, Brambleclaw, Leafpool, etc. (Another question: Main characters from the manga classified as main characters or not?)
 * Major Characters: Characters who never have a point of view but are nonetheless very important. (Examples: Yellowfang, Cinderpelt, Hawkfrost, etc.)
 * Supporting Characters: Any other characters who are of low to medium significance, though just how far this category extends would have to be decided upon. Would likely include most of ThunderClan, and some cats from other Clans that are more significant than just another name in the allegiances.

So, what do people think of these? Any comments, opinions on where the divisions should be, or whatever? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  17:53, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

That looks fine to me. Perhaps a Minor Characters for cats who are only seen once or twice in the books, or not at all? Like Redwillow or Loudbelly. I'm not sure about the manga, since this is more based off of the main series and those are side stories. <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  18:58, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

For the manga, Sasha and Scourge, since Graystripe, and Ravenpaw, in my opinion, are major characters. For the main, here's the list: Firestar, Brambleclaw, Squirrelflight, Leafpool, the Three, Dovepaw, and Ivypaw, and maybe Stormfur and Feathertail. For the majors, I think this should be good enough. For the minors, how about cats like Swallowtail, who're mentioned in books? For the minors, I can't look them up, I'm too busy. If a template is needed, go here, copy all the text onto the template you want to make, and change the characters' names. Btw, Insane, I take back my words. You are truly insane, which you show in your signatures. lol.– – ``` G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w ``` – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 13:06, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I only have one objection to your list of main characters: either Feathertail should be taken off or Crowfeather and Tawnypelt should be added. Because, Feathertail never had a point of view (despite being on the cover of Moonrise) and she's the only one on there that hasn't, so if she is on there with no PoV Tawnypelt and Crowfeather are equally deserving. Other than that I totally agree with you, instead of having Minor Characters be all others it could be any that are mentioned outside the allegiances or seen more than in passing... though the border would be a little fuzzy. And Major could stay the same, that's a very nice template for it too. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:17, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Feathertail has a PoV in Moonrise when Stormfur is captured.– – ``` G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w ``` – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:39, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sootfur - Silver Nomination
All of his appearances have been added in detail and I believe Insane cited all of his family, so he's pretty much done. <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  19:01, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good to me. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  20:24, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good, meanwhile, I was planning on prepping Rainwhisker's history, but as for Sootfur, I don't see anything wrong. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  22:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Since there have been no objections, I'll put him up for vote. <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  16:32, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Cloudberry - Silver Nomination
I am nominating Cloudberry's article for silver. Why? I looked over the history and added a couple of things. I also fixed "Sire" to father. I couldn't think of anything more too add to it. Comments? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 02:34, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Just went over it and tweaked a few small things, it looks fine to me. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  02:39, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Looks fine to me :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:47, February 1, 2010 (UTC)