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Warrior blanks ~ For Approval
19:15, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Love these! The head looks a bit off though. Sorry if you don't understand this but it's hard to explain: Try connecting the <-- line from the head to the body. Then make the <-- side of the muzzle curve upward a bit and the chin protrude from that line. Basically shapen the muzzle/face a little more. Here's a red line

19:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Obligatory redline from me. —​​​

The short-haired’s tail is very uneven and almost looks crooked. Please make the entire tail even and smooth. 20:00, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Longhair's back foot is a little chubby, and the noses should be expanded in size a tad *looks at cat for reference*Potato=) (talk) 20:27, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. will update longhair shortly, can't now because my latop is about to die and i don't feel like walking to get the charger.

20:31, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

There are some random lines on the shorthair's head that don't make sense, and there's waste outside --> this ear on said blankPotato=) (talk) 21:41, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Could you specify which lines? Not sure if you are heading about the whiskers over the eyes. It's a preference of mine but i can remove them if necessary.

22:13, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

The lines coming off the ears. I can send a perfect screenie if needed. Now on to homework lolPotato=) (talk) 22:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Those are whiskers. —

(Apologies for double comment; just got on my pc LOL) Here's a redline for the face. I don't necessarily think the perspective would change the level of the eyes, and I think they should be leveled out to be on the same line. Also, the muzzle needs to be a bit more rounded ish? Something like this maybe. When sketching cat heads, this is always what I do so maybe that'll help level out the head. —

Minor, but could you add a line on the shorthair going down the chest to represent the little floof of hair on the center of their chest.

22:51, January 27, 2019 (UTC) Re-uploaded. happier with the long hairs fur now.

00:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC) Make them a bit bigger.

00:28, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the line for the right cheek down closer to the nose? —

Re-uploaded. noticed the back didn't match.

00:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. tweaking the longhair shortly.

00:53, January 28, 2019 (UTC) Is it just me or is the short haired's linear art too thick?

Yeah the lineart should only be about 2 pixels thick i believe ​​​​ 01:34, 01/28/2019

I don't think there's a specific ruling for lineart thickness, but compared to the longhairs fluff it may look thicker. I personally think it's fine tho. —

Just me, but it looks like the shorthair is larger?? Malina457 (talk) 03:33, January 28, 2019 (UTC)malina

The shorthair is larger, I haven't updated the longhair's size yet.

04:25, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

The thickness should be consistent across the long haired and the short haired, at least. I still think the short haired linear art is too thick.

Re-uploaded. that was a nightmare... all the lineart or are there any particular spots that are too thick?

05:22, January 28, 2019 (UTC) Re-uploaded. found a few spots i thought i had fixed on the shorthair.

05:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

dunno how to exacty word it but the muzzle looks too centered for the angle of the face. something's just a bit off about it. 09:16, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps shorten/erase the muzzle lines to make the style more consistent with the other blanks? Also, I think the linear art is too thick on the short haired, especially on the back.

I feel like adding a shoulder on each blank would be beneficial. The backs seem kind of flat without them. 14:13, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Here's a reference for the muzzle. I think it's fine to have them stylized like what Patch is going for. Our blanks have a wide variety of styles and the StarClan blanks had the same issue of "match the blank styles" and in the end that got overruled. I think they just need some anatomy fixes but the style is fine. —

Re-uploaded.

02:05, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded again.

03:32, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the right cheek line down to the nose? Looking good.

these are look amazing! the only thing i see is that the 'catbrows' make them look a bit angry, could you fix that?

12:36, January 29, 2019 (UTC) Re-uploaded. I can't tell if they still look angry, but hopefully this is better.

15:55, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The shorthairs tail could be thinned a bit. looks too chub to me for a tail 17:44, 01/29/2019

Re-uploaded.

18:01, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I'm now asking this for a 5th time since my comment on this seems to keep getting ignored: can you please move the line that indicates the --> cheek down to align with the nose? —

Re-uploaded. looking back at your comments; didn't see it the first time, second time i misunderstood what you meant, i'm sorry if it seemed like i was ignoring you. Is this what you meant?

21:34, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

All good o/ This is what I mean, cheeks on a cat generally start protruding after the nose, kinda like this guy. (Though he is a bit chubby) —

They still look angry, change the position of the head whiskersPotato=) (talk) 22:56, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The head whiskers are honestly fine... I'm not sure why the expression seems to be an issue. ​​​​

Re-uploaded. ah ok i see i was being stupid, don't mind me lmao.

01:06, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

This is super nitpicky, but maybe fill in the space between the hind foot and the shoulder to front arm in with white? Only since there should be acknowledgement to the other haunch and foot that we can't see, but I don't know if that's 100% necessary. —

The line for the shoulder should be able to connect to the elbow, if that makes any sense - or the elbow should curve outwards. Also, the fluff on the haunch starting there protruding looks somewhat off on the longhair. Could you maybe add some tufts of fur above? 08:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

The muzzles still seem a bit off... I'm unsure if it's a neglect of a perspective but it keeps not looking right to me. It may be easier if you center the face rather than having them facing away, since the way it looks right now, it's as if you drew the muzzle in the center of the face, moved it over, then added lines to connect it to the side of the face, is the only way I can describe it bluntly. —

could yo make it so that the fur on the long haired blank's back doesn't appear so... suddenly? like maybe have a more visible transition 10:38, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I fixed these problems but i don't know if I'll be able to reupload today because my laptop is being annoying. I didn't touch the muzzles though, I'd rather not mess with them anymore then i have. Call me bias for working on the blank, but i really dont see it necessary and think they look fine.

16:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I think the muzzles are fine as they are. These blanks are beautiful I can’t wait to use them! 16:20, 01/30/2019

Sorry, but I agree with Echo about the muzzle. The perspective seems incorrect and they still look a tad off. 16:18, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Not to be nitpicky, but these are the warrior blanks. We're going to be making over 600 images with them. The muzzle may look fine to you and its "unnecessary" to change them, but these images are literally going to become wwiki's staple and that's why I've been so particular with your anatomy. I've studied cat anatomy for years and I'm trying to use my knowledge to help you since this blank is literally going to become wwiki's namesake, just as the last blanks were. Everh critique is necessary. —

I'm quite aware of that, but I don't agree with you on the muzzle and I would appreciate a few more opinions on it.

18:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to quickly slip in to state that I agree with Echo on the muzzles, and that i also think the ear lineart could use a tad smoothing while i'm at it. SquidwardPlays 18:35, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

To add onto my critique, you blanks have their face at a 3/4ths position, meaning the right cheek and eyes will be more defined than the left eye and cheeks. Here's a redline of a real life example of a cat at that angle. The face should flow together, not in a perfect circle, and I think the face shape, eyes and muzzle are whats throwing off the perspective and proportions. —

hmm. it was always meant to be somewhat offcenter, from the first sketches I'd had. not negating anything just pointing out the concept for this, and it's changed a lot since those early stages, but y'know

I think the position of the head shouldn't be changed (it should still face away from the center because that's part of the pose), but the muzzle could use some tweaking.

Re-uploaded.

19:15, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

The muzzles are still off. Echo provided a redline earlier, can you follow that one? The muzzle lines seem really flat when they should be more rounded for a lack of better words. 05:06, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Messed around with the muzzle, it looks odd whenever i alter it too much, hope this is good. Also changed a few things on the longhair's tail.

14:35, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

extremely minor, but could you make it so that the whiskers protrude from the middle of the muzzle and not from the edge? 05:10, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

15:20, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the lineart thicker in the ears? 17:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

And with the right ear on the longhair, it looks like some of the ear lineart extends past the head. Can you get rid of that? 17:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe give me a screenshot of the spot on the ear? I don't see any lineart going past the head.

17:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Here you go. Is that on purpose? 17:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

00:45, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the inner ear lineart? 01:27, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

05:54, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

could you make the short haired tail lie flat instead? 04:02, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

i agree w burnt ^^ to keep consistent with the longhair 04:49, 02/5/2019

Not sure if this is just me but does the long-haired's leg seem a bit too thick?

Pretty much all the critiques I have are to do with the anatomy and perspective. I found two refs, one for the body and one for the head, which seem to match very closely to this pose. I made a redline (rainbowline) here. Here's the explanations for each color:

Red: This kind of goes against some of the critique you've already gotten, but the shoulders are way too defined. Especially in poses like this, you can just barely make out where they are. Shoulder that are too defined tend to look attached on like a toy rather than being part of the body. If you remove the lines marked in red, that should help a ton.

Dark blue: The back should arc a lot more in this kind of sitting position. The original warrior had the same issue, so it'd be really nice to fix it in this version. And if you look at the area above the shoulders, the flatness there before it starts curving also helps give the shoulders form without making them look attached on.

Light blue: Similar to the shoulders, the haunch is a bit too defined. It also seems like it's behind the front leg nearest to us, which seems rather odd for this kind of pose. Might seem more natural to move it in front of the front leg instead.

Yellow: Usually you can't easily make out a clear chest area dividing the two front legs, but if you choose to keep that line, it definitely needs to be moved up higher. I tried to mark where that chest area is on the ref, but it kind of blended in, you might have to zoom in close to see it.

Orange: The muzzle is a bit small right now and doesn't seem to follow the form of the face. If you make the --> lip a good bit wider that should help, and maybe also make the <-- lip just a tiny bit wider too? I marked it on the ref so you can see how the form kind of wraps around the face.

Dark green: It seems like the head's tilted ever so slightly downwards, not up, so the jaw seems to big right now and like it's jutting out. This differs a bit from the ref since the ref is looking up a bit.

Pink: This is very minor but maybe increase the size of the nose by 1-2 pixels? It's a bit small right now, and will seem even more so if you change the muzzle.

Light green: The perspective is off on the <-- eye, if you look at the ref it's almost all the way to the cheek, with hardly any space between.

Purple: The <-- ear needs to be moved up so that the top lines up with the other ear. The perspective of the head being slightly turned wouldn't make the ear move down much. However the perspective does make that ear thinner than --> one, so maybe thin it out a bit.

Sorry for the wall of text. Message me in discord if anything's unclear.

Re-uploaded. longhair will be tweaked shortly.

21:00, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I love these so much ahhh. the shorthairs tail needs to be thinned again though, but these are getting so close feel it 21:39, 02/5/2019

Round out the muzzle a bit more. —

Re-uploaded. I'd rather not touch the muzzles, I did use a reference for them.

04:30, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

That looks great! The muzzle looks fine, definitely doesn't need to be rounded more. Cat lips are ovals. Maybe lengthen the shorthair tail just a pinch, and remove the little top shoulder line on the back and replace it with a more flattened area in the spot of the back (like the body ref I linked before). Having the line makes them look like they're protruding out of the body a bit, which tends to only happen if the cat is crouching or leaning their head down, not usually when sitting.

Could you make the long haired's leg a bit more.. narrow? on the short haired one it seems like it curves in but it looks a little off on the long-haired (idk how to word myself)

Re-uploaded. I see what you mean. The longhairs didn't curve in because the fur on the tail was blocking it off. I altered it a tiny bit so hopefully that looks better.

17:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

the head looks... like it is farther away from us than the body, and it looks uncomfortable. Is that how it is ment to be? ❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 19:57, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Cats do have fairly small heads, i think they're fine. And I want to avoid resizing anything because that's terrible.

20:40, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm is it just me or is the arc on the back different between the longhair and the shorthair? I'm not able rn to check them in an art program to look closer and see, so if I'm just seeing differences that are caused by the fluff you can ignore me.

This is probably controversial, but how does it look if you remove the cheek circles? Just have the lines for the mouth and maaaybe the lines down to the eyes. The face seems kinda crowded with all that lineart as is. 11:53 Thu Feb 7 2019

Re-uploaded. does this look better? i removed the dots by the eyes too because they looked off to me. Also matched the line art on the backs.

16:17, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Wall of text round 2. Ok I'm gonna go into hyper nitpick mode right now, but I think that's probably a good idea since these will be the most used blanks on the wiki. The majority of these suggestions are entirely optional.

The front paws a just a little flat, maybe round them and make them like 1-2px taller? And I know the <-- cheek is wider on the longhair purely because of fluff, but since it's such a big difference in size it kind of makes the lh and sh seem like they're looking in different directions. Either widening the sh's <-- cheek slightly or shrinking the lh's should fix it. The fluff lineart on the --> cheek of the lh also seems to be a bit messy, with a bunch of seemingly random pixels (both black and white) that don't seem to follow the form of the fur clumps. Also, this spot on the sh tail looks a bit thicker than the rest of the tail.

The next few things are pretty much all related to the longhairs, here's a redline circling the areas I'm talking about so it's easier to understand. So the fluff on the far shoulder, haunch, and lower half of the tail (the half closer to the tail tip), have a bit of a different style, with more lines and thinner thickness. The lines I circled in dark blue have a really great style/line quality, so maybe you could try making the other areas more similar by removing some lines and thickening them? The fluff I circled in orange looks as if it's cutting into the leg right now rather than fluffing out of it. You could probably just remove those lines entirely since the leg closer to use doesn't have it, but if you keep it maybe make it puff out like the fluff above it. Circled in light blue, the line for the toe on the hind foot is just a tiny bit long, could be chopped off by a few pixels. There's also this transparent/waste area circled in green between the hind foot and the tail. On the haunch circled in red there's this little cut out area that makes it look a bit jagged. The other red circles are the most nitpicky of all, there's a single white pixel between the two legs that looks a little off and could probably be filled in. There's also two spots near the face where there's closed off areas that won't be reached by the magic wand tool, and those have a tendency to end up with waste in them very frequently (like between the original leaders' front paws). The one caused by the whisker can probably be fixed by just chopping that whisker shorter, since it is actually longer than the others. You might end up with one of those types of areas by fixing the sh tail depending on how you do it, but that's fine, I just wanted to point out those spots where it wasn't actually necessary for them to be closed off.

And finally, this is absolutely a stylistic thing and just a matter of preference so feel free to ignore it, but I feel like the nose lines would look better if they didn't fully connect to the eyes, and instead stopped a couple pixels away like this. It just makes the face look a bit... softer I guess?

Sorry for being so fussy, but man with nearly 700 images needing to use these it's probably best to make sure all the little things get dealt with.

Re-uploaded.

21:33, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

gonna do some nipicking on the eyes. and I still think the end of the sh tail could be thinned a tiny bit, so it tapers slightly. and the toelines on the front feet should curve a little 21:56, 02/8/2019

Some lines intersect each other on the face. Also, completely optional, but is there any way you could make the neck more visible? 22:13, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

You might make the long fur, especially on the tail a bit more "flowy." You could achieve this by reducing some of the lines on the tail and rework them so they're more horizontal and wavy. That way, the tail looks less like a scared kitty bottle brush. If you want me to try to redline what I mean I can. 23:20 Fri Feb 8 2019

Re-uploaded.

00:29, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

The shape of the fur looks much better now, but could you thicken the lines to the thickness they were in the previous upload? That thickness looked really good imo.

Can you even out the toes? And also, as Icy mentioned, they don't seem to have a neck. They look like they're sort of hunkered down, could you maybe make them stand a bit taller? These are the warriors after all, and I feel like the previous blanks had a more dignified feeling to them whereas these cats are just. Sitting. —

Re-uploaded. 06:08, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

These are looking so good! They’ll be ready right away. The lines at the top of the head look a bit wild and harsh, could you somehow rework those? Here is a redline. http://tinypic.com/r/2j269ec/9 06:20, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Once again, can you try and make the neck look more visible? 06:25, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

On just the long hair or both? 06:36, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

I disagree with lengthening the necks any further. They're going to look unnatural if they get any longer.

Also, some pixel-sized nitpicks on the shorthair to smooth out some uneven and jagged areas, all optional. Red = remove pixel, blue = add (probably gonna have to zoom in to see them, sorry I should have made the color more visible). Here's a little spot on the longhair too.

Re-uploaded. I tried making the necks more obvious, but now I'm not sure about them. Also, thanks Winter <3 i couldn't see the redline you gave me, but I altered the fur on the head. Does that look better? 16:36, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Yes, it does!! Sorry about the redline :( 17:16, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Oh there was one other small thing I was wondering if you could change. The lineart on the ears looks a bit.....idk how to describe it. Not bad! I just think it would look better less connected. It’s hard to explain what I mean so I made some quick changes myself that I can show you on Discord. Just a few alterations of the lines of the ears and face. :) 22:28, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I reconnected the one nose line to the eye because it looks better to me that way. If anyone disagrees i can remove it. 00:43, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. made the ears a little smaller. 01:44, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

im definitely not an anatomy expert, but should a cat's tail be able to bend so sharply, especially on the short hair image? i feel like a more natural and comfortable pose would be for the tail to bend ever so slightly like in this image. of course like i said i suck at anatomy so if you own a cat and see it doing that all the time ignore me lol 03:34, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

On the longhair, it's kind of hard to see where the chest floof ends and the ---> front leg begins. Could you pull the chest lineart between the two front legs to the right a bit, like it is in the shorthair image? Eggheart (talk) 03:46, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like the tail only appears sharply curved because of the perspective, doesn't seem like it's actually bending at that angle (though maybe that was the intention? in which case maybe yeah it could be tweaked). I think it's fine personally.

i see what you mean by the perspective after looking at it. im just pointing out that at first glance, it looks more as if the tail is sharply curving rather than it looking like that because of the perspective– notably on the short haired version 09:23, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

It appears that way because of the perspective. I would prefer not to change it, but If I could get a few more opinions on it, I'd appreciate it. 18:12, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Tortoiseshell queen ~ CBA
soo, this is my first project here, I hope you like it :) 18:59, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

This is good! ^^ Remove the white, or change it to a cream color. The project defines a tortoiseshell as just black/orange, and only if they are described as 'tortoiseshell and white' do we add white.

hii add/define some earpink if you would, other images would show good colors for it. bumped this to ‘for approval’ since you know what you’re doing and welcome friend :3

Re-uploadedI hope it's okay for you like this 21:07, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading and although this is common with the queen blanks she looks slightly cross-eyedPotato=) (talk) 22:53, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Do you think you could add more patches? 08:07, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

I noticed your talk page comment, defining shading means to make it darker or visiblePotato=) (talk) 14:08, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 16:11, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Not breaking CBA but there's some waste outside --> that earPotato=) (talk) 23:11, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

yikes i hate breaking the cba on such a beautiful image but could you make it so that the black patches blend in more? right now they kind of look like they are pasted onto the image 05:07, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

it was so minor that I didnt think it was worth breaking CBA for, but because CBA is broken, is the front ← supost to look black?❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 22:33, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Still working?

Re-uploaded I was on vacation, that's why it took so long, I hope I did everything right. I have tried the one with the stains, otherwise you may turn to me with pleasure and show me a trick how it would look better :) 12:25, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-CBA?

Rose (TS) (KP) - For Approval
who else but me. i was gonna do a rose charm but just did a velvet ribbon for a collar instead SquidwardPlays 00:17, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Where's the pupil in --> this eyePotato=) (talk) 00:52, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Also found some waste ouside the outstretched front legPotato=) (talk) 00:53, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

And define eye depth while you're at it Squidward, sorry for bombarding you with critiquePotato=) (talk) 01:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Shading is leaking away from the lineart just above where the tail meets the body (topside) and on the back. I also think the shading in < ear could be defined

Reups Also potato the pupil is in that eye there's not that much space with the color aswell. don't know if i actually got the waste Squidward Plays All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:41, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue, define light on collar, define eye depth again and sry for being the nitpickiest nitpicker but make a small line for the pupil in said eye, it looks, idk, odd without the pupilPotato=) (talk) 22:45, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not messing with the pupil in that eye. It is there and it is fine that way, i'm sorry Potato, and that pawpad is filled. i'll reups later. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 22:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reups <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 01:52, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

The face shading needs to be defined and there seems to be waste by the face.

Also waste around the ears, back, and legsPotato=) (talk) 01:09, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Reups <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 21:53, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

With current source, wouldn’t be any shading on the top of the haunch, and also would have light on the > side of the most visible shoulder. There’s a little shading leaking away from the lineart just beside the ribbon, and could you also brighten the eyes a touch, or at least the eye shine parts?

I'll reup probably tomorrow, im redoing her because it's getting to hard to work. she is all on one layer as she is rn because of a layer mess up, itll be easier if i just redid it <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 23:58, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Tallstar (KP) ~ CBA
i put a collar on him since I can't seem to find a cite that said he didn't have one. Yes, I know the shading needs darkened, I'll do that on my next upload. 05:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

considering he was a feral cat at the vet and would highly object to wearing one, as well as no one making any kind of deal or notice that he was wearing one, he really shouldn't have it, especially as a main pov. his tail also needs to be longer. 05:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

pawpads and tongue unfilled

Make the tail loonnnnngerrrr Potato=) (talk) 05:35, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Nope Skt beat me to itPotato=) (talk) 05:39, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah but we don't necessarily know if he was wearing one or not. I'll remove it if I have to but I added it because the collar had no cite if he had one or not. I even read the chapters he was a kittypet while doing this. 16:05, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Not that I wrote the book or anything, but I definitely think that he would have noticed if he had a collar on him, so I agree with Trolly about removing it. 17:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Remove the collar; if he had one, there's no way he wouldn't have pointed it out. Plus, he wasn't owned by these Twolegs, they were just taking care of him. There's no reason for him to have the collar. ​​​

can you fill in the paw pads and the tongue? especially the tongue, not sure if pawpads can be white 05:36, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

^ DOn't think so? Cats generally have black/brown/pink paw pads. Also I think the nose is unfilled too. —

Yeah, I'm removing the collar and the filling in the stuff but I think Spook pointed those out earlier. 13:19, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

oh im dumb lol yeah sorry splook for repeating 13:31, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re-ups, re-did the shading because I lazed through the first. That shading took all day lmao my motivation was low 03:31, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Brighten some of the white on the front of the face? 19:39, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

It's at 100%, that's just shading. I've seen shading at that opacity on white, it should be fine? I tried to have some of the white show brighter but the white was low on his face where the shaidng is suppose to be. 20:49, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I think the white on the face is fine as is. Very well done Mel <span style="">21:46, 02/5/2019

Maybe define the light on it or erase some of the shading so the white is more visible. 22:19, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups 23:58, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

i feel like the tail could be quite a bit longer. it is what hes named for. 00:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I tried to match his other images, they seem to be about an inch longer. 00:11, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

talk could be longer, look how long the tail is compared to the other unedited blanks for his other ranks <span style="">00:28, 02/6/2019

Waste outside the big ear and few specks of black around the longer tailPotato=) (talk) 01:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Could you erase some shading/texutre on the paws so that it looks white?

The collar shading still seems to be there. —

The collar isn't there, I removed it. There isn't texture on the paws, the shading only covers the bottom part of the paws? It gives it a light grey tone with how its done. I can screenshot how much the shading covers and its not very much. If I erase it, someone will then ask me to define it since I only have like half an inch of the paws in shading. Could I possibly get a second on that? 12:02, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

i think the front two paws should definitely be whitened 12:07, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups 23:19, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Whatever the gray lines are on the paws (shading or texture), could you lessen them? the white paws still look gray, especially compared to his other images

It's the textured shading, if I lessen it I'll be asked to darken it again. I think it looks fine especially since everyone has their own shading style. You can tell their white since I erased the shading on the top parts if the paws. Second opinion please? 19:14, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

I agree with Fox, some of the lines should be lessened and the paws should be whitened more. 19:50, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups 00:25, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

There's a touch of white leaking out of the chin here, and the white is leaking away from the lineart on the bottom of the belly a little

Re-Ups 02:07, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Sasha (KP) - For Approval
Love this sweet, tough, independent kitty! 15:16, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Great job! But with this light source, would there be shading on the back? 15:41, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! The light source is supposed to be coming from the front, so yes. 15:44, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define the tail shading Malina457 (talk) 16:29, February 4, 2019 (UTC)malina

The shading's leaking away from the lineart on the backside of the < front arm's elbow

should this collar match how its depicted in tigerstar and sasha? 18:58, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Uh, what does that collar look like? Oops xD 20:14, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the paw pad closest to her tonguePotato=) (talk) 23:17, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Add some shading depth to her face? i love sasha  <span style="">23:36, 02/4/2019

Reuploaded. Sorry about the collar mistake! 01:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Think I see some leaking shading where the length of the tail meets the rump lineart. 19:22, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I'm having a hard time seeing it D: Can I have a redline? 20:16, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

red line! 01:03, February 6, 2019 (UTC

Reuploaded. I think I got it! 15:48, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm there's some lineart blurring/extra pixels around, like here black pixels shouldn't be there, and here, the blue pixels are missing as of the latest version of the blank. perhaps a version mishap?

I'm not sure why those pixels are there, but I don't understand how they affect the quality of my image. Nobody would be able to notice them unless they actually went in and compared my image to the line-art. 22:21, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

It’s one of the staple rules that the lineart needs to match what we have on wiki, and I did notice the blurring without any zoom in but went on closer to provide easier reference. We tweak things for miscolored and blurred lineart and it definitely affects the quality of an image, given its more than one spot and several different things, which can be easily solved by just switching out the layer

Reuploaded. 01:50, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

The shading's leaking away from the lineart on the bottom of the > back foot^^ Could you also define the shading depth on the < front arm, and smooth it on the < side of the shoulder?

Reuploaded man this image has given me some trouble 15:32, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Snowdrop (KP) - For Approval
Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 00:20, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Snooth the shading on the haunch and belly <span style="">00:28, 02/5/2019

Define the eye depth and the shading on the ears. 02:57, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

re-ups Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 00:02, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the body and define the light on the legsPotato=) (talk) 00:09, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

re-ups 'n stuff Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 02:14, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

with the light source you have, the light on the legs should be on top, not coming from below 08:33 Wed Feb 6 2019

re-uploaded Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 03:18, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the two back legs and paws, and the front leg? Also, please define the shading on the collar and face + tongue. :) 01:31, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Add some light on the two back paw pads Eggheart (talk) 19:39, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Mitzi(KP)~ For Approval
Ive had this for a bit, I was just waiting for Dawncloud to be done! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 18:26, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

This is great! But could you define light on the collar as it's dark and sort of hard to see, whiten the white except for the face as it looks rather gray and add a bit of the base above the nose and between the eyes? Since she has a manga image and it has that bit of the base in the place it'd probably be good to have it here. You're getting good! <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 18:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Also, waste at base of the tail, both hindpaws, the outstretched forepaw, muzzle and both ears. I can't send screens in but if nobody else does I can later <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 18:37, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I dont see waste, and on my first upload, there wil ost likely be no waste. I do a waste check evry time, and I make absolute shure evry 3 times. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 18:46, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

[https://imgur.com/a/PJ38A8Q%7CHere's reference for the waste. It is there.] <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 19:03, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add another layer of shading to add some depth to the image? Very nice job Owl <span style="">19:10, 02/5/2019

Oh and as beautiful as this collar is, it has to match File:Mitzi.RP.png her manga collar. pls use this collar for another kittypet I love it so much <span style="">19:24, 02/5/2019

Re-up, Rip collar. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 19:45, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I liked the collar too, oh well. But the white hasn't been whitened at all. It's still very gray. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:46, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

The waste at the base of the tail is still there, btw, just checked. https://imgur.com/a/u4SZlQC <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, it is the shading making the white look gray. now I get the pain of white cats. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:01, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Looking good ^^. but don't forget to extend the stripe of the base on the face to reach the muzzle, there is on the queen you're matching. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 20:04, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

oh, you before said to have the base color between the eyes, but I set my base color to the white... oops! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:11, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

That's my bad then, I worded it wrongly. I was refrring to the red color as the base not thinking about what you might've used for the base. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 20:13, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, its okay. We all do that sometimes! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:15, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Patches are a bit overblurred, compared to the alt queen in the set

I agree, the patches should be more rough and three toned. The colors don't seem to match the image that was pointed out. 20:58, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

This is great Owlbite, but the pupils are brown, make them black or white (your choice dear friend), and define the light on the collar, and yes there's some waste outside the top of the collar, and unfilled pixels near the latter, still this is good dear friendPotato=) (talk) 22:56, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

what unfilled pixels? and the puipls are artists choice, I vave had them on all my art. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 23:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Between the collar and ear, do you want a screenie?Potato=) (talk) 00:10, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I see them, they are not unfilled pixels. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:23, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Would you like an unshaded screenshot of Mitzi's old image? I made it and would happily provide you with the correct colors should you need them.

yes please. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:48, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Here you go. I realize the ear pink is hard to see, so the hex color for that is #EC7676. ​​​​​​

Re-up, this is cute! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 03:49, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

maybe sharpen the shading on the face just a smidge? this is adorable owl! 08:36 Wed Feb 6 2019

Re-up, the face is gray!!! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 17:12, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, the face is no longer so gray. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 19:22, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Face should be whitened a bit, pupils are still brown, and the nosepink should match the color of the earpink, paw pads, and tonguePotato=) (talk) 22:55, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Tongue doesn’t have to match. I have a black cat and his tongue is super pink, and his paw pads, nose, and ears are black. So nosepink is fine <span style="">23:03, 02/6/2019

I never match my nosepink to my earpink or anything like that, I don't think it's necessary. —

like I said before, the eye is artists choice, and it is in all my work. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:03, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on both of the back feet and the shading in the ear. Define the lightsource on the center of the body too maybe? I'm having trouble judging where it is coming from, might just be me though so a second opinion here would be good. Smooth out the shading on the belly/flank.

01:20, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, I just re-did the shading, I didnt realy like it before, and i think it is sort of cute now! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 03:27, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Whiten the paws again, the tinted shading looks much nicer! <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 12:49, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Derfine light on the ear furthest from us? this is cute! --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    12:58, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Colors are off from the alt. queen - the darker brown is noticeably lighter on this in comparison. If it's due to highlights or whatnot, shrink those some to allow for the base to show

sorry if I cant re-up for a bit, I lost the pen tip for my drawing tablet pen, and i cant find the replacements. (dont ask how I manage to do that.) <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 05:40, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, when I could draw aigain, a cryed of joy! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 18:40, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the front paw closest to us, along with both back paws, it looks like there's a layer of shading over them. Define the shading depth on the arm closest to us and smooth the edges of the overall shading so it appears more gradient. 18:04, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, I hope this is good. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 19:54, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Light should be defined more on the legs, they needn't be covered in shadow.Potato&#61;) (talk) 20:24, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Jake (Alt Ro) - For Approval
just gonna finish off jake's family tree alt set now, everything fro my loner alt <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:55, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the (for lack of a better word) extremities? Like, tail, legs, whatnot? I'm not really seeing any light there. ​​​​​

Reups Is it better or should i define more <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 01:42, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I think the tail and front legs look good, but I'm not quite seeing much light still on the back legs. Particularly on the cream. 03:36, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

The shading on the haunch seems really stark compared to the rest, can you lighten it a bit? This is gorgeous <3 —

Waste everwhere around the imagePotato=) (talk) 02:38, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

I think there should be more light on the face Eggheart (talk) 00:23, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

will reup very soon, im just gonna redo the shading i dont really like it <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 21:41, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Reups <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 22:06, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Waste near the bootyPotato=) (talk) 00:06, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm for lack of better words to describe it, the shading on the > of the flank and top of the haunch is lighter than the rest, which looks a little inconsistent imo. Can you also define the shading/light difference on the tail?

Zack (kp)- CBA
since it just says "white pointed", i made him a pointed blue cream tortie 10:22, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Gorgeous and creative! Can you add some shading on --> ear? 16:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Rip I like this, but whoever readded Zack's description didn't add what we have a confirm for, and just merged the colorpoint part from when we had missing kits. They're just just white and light gray from what we can tell, so just changed his page to that. rip pretty cat

Fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue, waste near the front legs, and the eye white on the bigger eye is slightly leaking past the lineartPotato=) (talk) 22:58, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I think she can just remove the ginger and switch the colors a little and it'd still be a gray and white cat.

reup i removed the orange. will address other comments in next upload 11:14, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

reup 08:09, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Apologies on breaking this, but a few things: On the tail, that bit of blue is very sharp. On the bottom of the back foot, with given source, I'm not sure that shading'd be there. And then just on the haunch, that bit of shading is darker/sharper than the rest of it, could that blend in a touch more? On the outstretched > front leg, the elongated pawpad is unfilled. And well, given his description is from the icon only, which is silver/light gray and white, I'd imagine this'd be a touch lighter and a small touch less blue. There's also some waste under the < back foot, and between the front legs.

Waste outside the legs and big ear.Potato&#61;) (talk) 17:31, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

reup tried to address everything, apologies if i missed out something or misinterpreted 03:12, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

You missed the wastePotato&#61;) (talk) 04:52, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

reup once again, i promise im doing my best to find it, but i literally couldnt find anything other than a pixel, so i uploaded the version i was looking at 09:20, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-CBA?

Algernon (KP) - For Approval
any tips to make the shading look right would be appreciated xoxo <span style="">00:02 Thu Feb 7

Texture is different on the rogue, not sure how to elaboratePotato=) (talk) 00:46, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

I think it appears softer compared to the rogue? 00:54, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

you could add a layer of depth to the shading

reuploaded i added another sharper layer of texture but if it still looks too soft i'll just redo the texture all together <span style="">05:29 Thu Feb 7

It still doesn't match... sadly. It is much softer and spaced out on the roguePotato=) (talk) 02:40, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

i would try lightening the texture like by a very very tiny bit 09:21, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Ahhhh I apologize. I meant to say that the texture was softer on the rogue; not on the kittypet. >.< 15:30, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded  <span style="">23:00 Fri Feb 8

CBA?

Sorry to break your CBA, but this seems darker in base color than the rogue by some. Could you try and match it a touch closer? I also believe there should be some light on the bottom of the < back paw, given the source

Jingo (KP) - CBA
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 23:33, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

This is nice Icy, fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue and waste outside the outstretched front legPotato=) (talk) 23:43, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

The pawpads are filled in, and I cannot see any waste. Do you mind showing me? 23:46, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Ye give me a moment to get Gyazo upPotato=) (talk) 23:48, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 23:54, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smudge the stripes some? They appear more "scratchy" on the loner. 15:26, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 17:38, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

The pale on the loner's tail only seems to go about halfway down before tapering off^^

Re-uploaded: The tail is hurting me. 20:29, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Plumwillow (KP) - CBA
ugh shading <span style="">01:27 Fri Feb 8

Could you smooth the shading please 02:14, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Nice collar Splook, though the shading could be defined on it.Potato=) (talk) 02:23, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs, tail, and face, and maybe ass a bit of depth to those areas too <span style="">18:26, 02/8/2019

Maybe lighten the shading a tiny bit, actually? 19:50, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded  <span style="">22:32 Fri Feb 8

The collar is amazing, but I don't think she would get one? If I remember correctly, she and the others were just fed by the Twolegs and weren't actually owned by them. 23:32, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Oof.. I have to agree with Vec, I can look through SkyClan and the Stranger, but I don't think Plum would have a collar.Potato=) (talk) 02:10, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded rip collar 2019-2019 <span style="">06:17 Sat Feb 9

Lighten/smooth out the shading?

reuploaded <span style="">20:10 Sun Feb 10

Comments before approval? 21:05, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Buster (KP) - CBA
Save me from my calculus homework :( Eggheart (talk) 02:19, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Add some shading to the collar?Potato=) (talk) 02:24, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

π∫f(x)^2 dx jk can you add a bit of shading depth? 08:07, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

I absolutely LOVE the shading and texture on this!! Could you smooth out the shading on the back leg farthest from us? 19:49, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

reup I think I'll go back and smooth out the belly shading in a bit Eggheart (talk) 01:14, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

reup Eggheart (talk) 20:12, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Graystripe (KP) ~ CBA
20:50, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

add some shading on the fluffs, like this, expand shading on the haunch ( from the butt toward the tum), and add some shading on the ruff <span style="">22:06, 02/8/2019

Reuploaded 14:54, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Could you fill this line with shading? Looks kinda like leaking even though it isn't with where it's placed, and given source, probably wouldn't have light there anyways. The shading's also leaking away from the lineart just below the < ear

Reuploaded 00:59, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Yup. CBA?

Sharpclaw (KP) - CBA
I tell myself to stop doing ginger cats yet I keep doing ginger cats. Anyway tips to make the shading right would be much appreciated. 22:11, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

like with ruby's kp, the haunch shading could be expanded <span style="">22:26, 02/8/2019

stripes seem a touch softer on the other images^^

Re-uploaded: 23:41, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

smooth out the mid-section shading a lil <span style="">06:11 Sat Feb 9

Re-uploaded: 06:21, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Could you lighten the shading a little?

Re-uploaded: 21:04, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Squirrelflight (Alt A) - For Evaluation
The alternate depiction of Squirrelpaw in Graystripe's Adventure. - Lesbian Disaster

Define/add the shading. 22:36, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

You have this named as File:GA.Squirrelflight.apprentice.alt.png. It's supposed to be File:Squirrelflight.apprentice.alt2.png, so you'll have to rename it, and also, please add pupil to both eyes and fill the nose. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 22:39, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Not bad for an image! First of all, as Bluestar said, this needs some shading. Define the eye depth.Potato&#61;) (talk) 22:53, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Potato please don’t repeat comments, I guess it takes up space and just restates what’s already been said. It’s not a huge deal, though. Thanks! :) 23:20, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the earpink a little bit more. :) Nice job! 23:21, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

Renamed the file for you, upload it as File:Squirrelflight.apprentice.alt2.png onward. 00:48, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry Winter! Make the paler parts cream.Potato&#61;) (talk) 01:37, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

the pale parts should be fine, they look like they got colorpicked off the manga <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 01:40, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the nose? --

Same thing Silverfur, please don’t repeat comments. :P But I understand it was probably a mistake and that you just didn’t see Squidward's comment. No big deal. Just remember for next time! :) 06:14, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Oops, I was looking out and didnt see their comment. I apologise! --

Please upload this under the name File:Squirrelflight.apprentice.alt2.png. And remember to post "Re-uploaded" after you upload a new version of it so people are aware you've made differences (and that way you won't get lost looking at a bunch of comments in case you don't remember where you last uploaded) also remember to not align your images^^ Smooth the shading out on this. 16:52, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Oof sorry! Re-Uploaded! 16:56, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

It's no problem, everyone makes mistakes. Add some shading to the ears as well and define it on the face. 17:01, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Define the eye depth, and the shading looks unnatural and flat. Try running the dodge tool over the edges to make it smooth. Earpink in the right ear should not leak past the ear line. There should not be stripes on her forehead. This is really good Les!Potato&#61;) (talk) 17:37, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

The forehead stripes are in the manga iirc, Potato. Also yes, we don't really do hard cellshading, try smuding or blurring it and try not to thumb or align your image. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 17:41, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! 18:19, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Define the overall shading depth, and smooth the edges some more. Very nice! 18:28, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Remove the eyelashes, male and female blanks aren't in use anymore. Define the tail shading. Shading still looks flat, try making it darker by using the burn tool, or adding a extra layer of shading.Potato&#61;) (talk) 19:35, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! 21:04, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

This is really good Les! Can you make the pupils black though? Her eyes look cloudy with the green <span style="">22:05, 02/9/2019

Ah much better! Fill in the nose color. Make it the same color as the earpink. Make the paw cream a bit more cream.Potato&#61;) (talk) 22:15, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded! 22:55, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Don't thumb the image. Remove the "|left|" from the file name to remove the allignment.Potato&#61;) (talk) 22:57, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry! 23:03, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

This is coming along very nicely^^ Recede the paler coloring on the tail a little, to match the official art, it wouldn't go so far down the tail. Also, round out the paler muzzle to be less of a triangle shape, if you would.

Re-Uploaded :D  00:57, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

could you make it so that the light source is consistent? the tail and the back leg have conflicting light sources. 03:27, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded! 12:23, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Add some light to both of the back legs. This is turning out very nice! 15:40, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Re-Uploaded! 16:02, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Jacques (KP) ~ For approval
23:08, February 8, 2019 (UTC)

did you fill in the nose? smug kitty --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    03:56, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

more of an optional thing, but maybe lighten the shading on the white parts? just seems kinda dark, and on the belly it makes it harder to see that it's white

I don't want to sound difficult but I think it's okay? if it gets too light I'll just be told to define it again. also yea, the nose is filled in. 00:27, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

could you maybe smooth the shading out on the white a little bit? 03:27, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Plumwillow (Alt KP) ~ For approval
01:26, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Idk if its just my phone but she looks green <span style="">03:42, 02/9/2019

That’s just the shading tint, the actual base colour is a pale gray that I colourpicked from the former image that Sorrelflower made. :) 04:25, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Though shading tint is artist's choice, it is making the color look very green here. Any chance you could tone down the tint a bit?

Reuploaded. 07:09, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

There's a patch of shading missing from the top of the shoulder where it meets the neck fluff. 20:20, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 22:18, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Could you expand the shading kinda like this? It kinda appears to be leaking away from the lineart at the top there, and because kitty bums be round it'd curve a little like that

Reuploaded. 01:54, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Seville (KP) - CBA
rip bailey </3 02:25, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to disagree but this looks more light brown that ginger.. Seville is mentioned to be gingerPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:06, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

i kind of agree with potato, it does look light brown 04:18, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. it was waay too brown. 04:45, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

the current shade is very pretty^^ CBA?

Sparrowpelt (SC) (KP) ~ CBA
Not quite sure this matches enough idk. Will upload pad colors in a few minutes >.< 03:03, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reups 03:22, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

If you drop me your email, I can send you the file for his old warrior, which is still the master pattern. ​

Reups Thanks Jayce! 20:18, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Leafstar(KP)- for approval
its pretty bad rip, but had to be quick with it cuz mountains of hw awaits 06:11, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

The little tiny mottley dots don't seem to match. On the other images it seems like there's more of them, they look smaller (maybe?), and they're more randomly placed. These look a bit uniform. Also, did you color the stripes that are over the cream patches to be a darker cream, or did you leave them black all the way through?

reup not sure if this is what you meant by the stripes. they're not all black, though– that i noticed on the queen. 07:46, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Waste floating around the characterPotato&#61;) (talk) 14:25, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

reup 03:26, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Still there, near the tail, haunch, and outstretched legPotato&#61;) (talk) 04:48, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

reup sorry potato, but i literally cannot see the waste. i uploaded the image i was looking at because perhaps i uploaded the wrong version. 09:17, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Socks (KP) - For Approval
bad babey 00:23 Sun Feb 10 2019

Fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue.Potato&#61;) (talk) 17:57, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

It is filled in 18:54 Sun Feb 10 2019

Sandynose (KP) ~ For Approval
send h e l p

00:51, February 10, 2019 (UTC) Reuploaded Fixed some things uwu

01:09, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the nose Ari =)Potato&#61;) (talk) 02:46, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

02:55, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth out the shading on the legs a little bit? this is really cute <span style="">20:12 Sun Feb 10

Rocky (KP) - For Approval
I'll fix this up a little bit later, I wanted to get this up before I lost my reservation. 03:08, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Minor thing Ivy but fill in the lowest paw pad on > that back legPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:15, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Can you lighten the shading on the tuft of fur on the back of his neck near the collar? It looks very gray. 15:34, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Cherrytail (KP) ~ For Approval
*insert cherry joke here*

Seri X Chips= Cheri. Define the bow shadingPotato&#61;) (talk) 04:40, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the overall shading? 06:28, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

I believe the orange splotches are slightly softer on the other images. 15:36, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Crookedstar (L) - For Approval
i'm assuming its all good to post these boys up? 08:48 Sun Feb 10 2019

Maybe move the jaw 1-2 pixels more? i love him so much <span style="">14:53, 02/10/2019

Hmm no anatomy expert here, but on his other images part of his mouth sticks out, so under the tooth put some red to indicate the lip or somethingPotato&#61;) (talk) 17:42, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

reups added a little bit of a lip but I'm sure I like it lmao 19:29 Sun Feb 10 2019

Scourge (L) ~ For approval
08:49, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Leopardstar (L) ~ For Approval
I'll probably change up the shading later.

Can you even out the pupils? —

I'm not sure what you mean. They are the same size; do you want me to center them?

I think tge leg stripes couls be paled/dimmed down a bit. They don't seem as dark on her other images. 10:02, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better?

Center them, yeah. —

Re-uploaded

This looks a lot brighter than her other images, could be my phone though <span style="">14:25, 02/10/2019

Re-uploaded I tried color-picking the base color again from her other images. The deputy does have a darker base color, but I color-picked from the apprentice since that came first (and the base color looks lighter). To me, it honestly looks like the lightness is mainly because of the shading. On her other images, it appears that the shading either covers her pale parts or covers a lot of area.

This looks a bit better, I’ll have to look at them on my computer when I get home from work tonight tho. <span style="">14:50, 02/10/2019

Brightwhisker (L) ~ For Approval
meh couldve done better --

13:25, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

add some shading depth on the haunch? 14:28, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Pretty! The edges of the patches are slightly smoother on the deputy. 15:25, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

define the shading on the mid-section some? <span style="">20:13 Sun Feb 10

Mistystar (L) ~ For Approval


Isn't she short-haired?

Reuploaded lmao my mind had went riverclan = longhaired almost automatically, my bad.

Smooth the shading a lil on the chest? <span style="">14:51, 02/10/2019

Also please smooth it on --> haunch. 15:35, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Bluestar (Alt. Le) ~ For Approval
I had to do one of her images. All colors from alt. apprentice. Comments? 17:01, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Tigerstar (TPB) (Alt. Le 3) ~ For Approval
All colors from DF alt. Also, the scar going down the stomach of the DF image was meant to be from the wound Scourge gave him in The Darkest Hour. You know, the one that killed him, so he wouldn't have it as a leader. Comments? 17:01, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

The earpink is orange..?Potato&#61;) (talk) 17:32, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

It's colorpicked directly from the DF alt's file. 17:41, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Willie (L) - For Approval
Eggheart (talk) 17:25, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shadingPotato&#61;) (talk) 17:44, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

I feel the tail shading and --> side of the cat is fine, but I definitely agree about the facial shading at least. Could you also define the eye depth, if possible? ​​

reup I love green-eyed cats Eggheart (talk) 18:34, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Thunderstar (Le) ~ For Approval
17:31, February 10, 2019 (UTC)\

Re-uploaded. torn ear and i forgot to save the file haha. 17:38, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Hazelstar (L) - For Approval
Cat! <span style="">17:39 Sun Feb 10 2019

Define the shading everywhere except the back/flank area.Potato&#61;) (talk) 17:44, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

I'd rather not. I think it looks a bit dark if anything. <span style="">17:49 Sun Feb 10 2019

Is it possible for you to add some light to the right back leg and back? Even with the light source, I think there should be a bit there Eggheart (talk) 18:36, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

No, there really wouldn't be any light there with this light source. With light coming from the left and a pose like this, that whole --> half of the body is entirely in shadow. And there's already some bounce lighting and depth added to it, so it's perfectly fine as is. It'd be incorrect to add any more light there.

Pinestar (Le) - For Approval
howdy there, all colors from his other images.

Turtle Tail (KP) - For Approval
Not 100% sure I like this. All colors from her other images. I am aware that the pattern doesn't quite match along the spine, don't comment on that.

Could you define the shading on the forelegs? 18:48, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Hm, -> foreleg is going to be difficult because of the pattern placement, but does this look okay?

Yeah, looks so much better. This is gorgeous btw 19:57, February 10, 2019 (UTC)