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Hawkheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well, here's Hawkheart. I like him about as much as I like Thistleclaw. (I. Am. Not. A. Hawkheart. Fan.) Still, I thought he'd be fun to do. All character art is fun to do! Hawkheart was a bit of a challenge, which made it even more fun. Gotta go see the coverart for The Sign of the Moon (I saw it while I was uploading)! Yay! So, comments? I'm kind of happy with how he turned out. :) Holly  dapple  04:19, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, but we've got to figure out which style we're going to use, yours, or Moonpelt's. Personally, I prefer Moonpelt's, it looks more flecked. But that's just me Night  Fall 04:38, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Nightfall. I know my Hawkheart doesn't look like Moonpelt's. I was thinking about how I was going to do Hawkheart for atleast four days. I really liked his/her style too, but I just can't smudge it in that cool way. I tried, but it looked horrific. I am not joking. I can't make it smudged without messing it up. Holly dapple  04:51, July 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well if we're using yours, lets blur in the flecks some more please :) I can see a bit of sharp edges in some a little. They are like REALLY sharp, but they're very defined and kind of make it stick out.-- Cchslogo.gif Gladiator  Band Geek Treble_and_bass_clef_heart.png 05:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. All spots blurred with Photoshop Elements, Shimmerpool. Did I get what you meant? I saw it on the throat patch particularly. Man, I'm sleepy. But TW is over, so I can get back to work! Yay! Anyway, if there are any other areas in particular that look weird, let me know, please. Holly  dapple  06:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

This looks nice. I have two small suggestions: the ear pink is a little big and is almost falling out of his ear. And the highlight on the shoulder, as well as the spots could do with some more blending. Perhaps try using the smudge tool a little on the spots and then blending. It takes some getting used to but looks good. 12:05, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Fixed the earpink, blended the highlight, and smudged and blurred the spots. I kind of like this. :) But I was wondering if since he's supposed to be "flecked", maybe he should look more like Ashfur or Ferncloud? Oh, and before I save this, if I don't respond to any messages right away, that's just because I may not be able to get to the computer (what with the homeschooling, cats, computer, and heat!). But I didn't smudge the paws because two of my cats have shag-rug long fur, and their paws are not smudged. Holly  dapple  05:03, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, maybe he should look more like Ferncloud and Ashfur. Darken the shading around the forearms and haunch a bit more-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:24, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that if you add a few smaller flecks to what you already have then it will be fine. 11:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. I added a few smaller flecks...I don't know if I messed it up. I darkened the shading around the forearms and the haunch. Do I need to darken it a touch more? Holly  dapple  21:04, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Add more tail stripes and darken the shading on the forearm and chest-- 23:06, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * smacks forehead* I forgot to reupload...ugh, stupid Hollydapple. So technically, now he's reuploaded. I did everything I said above...sorry. Holly  dapple  21:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Define and blur the ear-pink more. 20:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

He looks great. But can you...maybe add some more shading on the haunch? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

He looks wonderful! Maybe add some more stripes on his tail? 20:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks. I added more haunch shading, more arm shading, and more chest shading, as well as the tail stripes. I didn't understand quite what you meant about the ear pink, Frostheart. What do you mean by defining and blurring the ear pink more? Holly dapple  17:03, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ending is a bit rounded, make it more straight to be like a triangle. Other than that, this is fantastic. 00:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks, Frostheart! Don't know if I blurred the ear pink too much. If needed, I'll make it more opaque. Holly dapple  21:25, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller. 21:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. 22:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I just redid the earpink completely. Holly dapple  21:11, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more defined and blur it some more. 22:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks like its falling out of the ear, trying moving it further up. -- 03:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the haunch a bit. 19:53, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little lighter--make the color more neutral. Maybe add some speckles to his tail? Willow heart  1231  23:52, August 30, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Smudge the chest patches a bit. 23:24, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the ear pink smaller and darker. And blur it. 17:31, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller, darker, and blur it. I agree with Icestorm. I hate Hawkheart, and may StarClan light your path. 02:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Try and make the ear pink a bit more triangular Tawny (Talk) 21:56, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry it's taken so long. I had the image with the suggested changes at that time ready a few days ago, but Wikia convinently closed off the uploading, and I couldn't get to it for a few days. The ear pink has been lightened, shrunk, and more defined. It looked better lighter than darker, so that's what I did. I may go back and change the ear pink so it's further in the ear, but I'm kinda busy right now. I added a few speckles to his tail, Willowheart. They're kinda small, but...they're speckles. :3 Oh, yeah, and the haunch has been lightened. Holly dapple  04:04, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hold on, for some reason my changes didn't show up. Lemme try again tomorrow. Sorry! Dumb internet. *starts muttering about lousy dialup connection* Holly  dapple  04:59, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on his back. And the tip of his tail is cut off; try and fix that =) 19:32, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I darkened the shading a while ago, so I don't know if it's too dark...let me know if it is. Here's hoping the changes show up. I think he looks too pale now...I'm not going to explain why, but I'll probably darken him again this evening, if I get the chance.Oh, and as for the tail, I tried fixing the tip, but it looks a little funny. I'm going to try to fix it a little more later. Holly dapple  20:29, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

The end of his tail looks cut off. Desaturate the ear pink and blur it. Blur the spot on his shoulder and blur the shading-- 04:16, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

There's a spot under his chin where the patches and the gray part meet, but aren't blurred. Try to see if you can see it...(sorry, but I'm starting to become REALLY picky) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 14:15, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

A good color for the ear pink would be #F778A1. Blur the ear pink as well. Willow heart  1231  20:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

'''Reuploaded. '''I'm picky too, Tawny! ;) If I didn't get the spot, or didn't get it well enough, please let me know or draw me a diagram. I used the earpink reccomended by Willowheart, and I think it looks better--thanks! I blurred the ear pink as well, and gave Hawkheart tail-tip reconstruction! I fixed it using one of the blanks, without going into detail. I blurred the spot on his shoulder and the shading. Thanks for the advice! Holly  dapple  15:34, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge and darken the earpink into a triangular shape. This is really pretty Holly :) 00:11, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rockshade (W)-For Approval
Fail, fail, EPIC FAIL!! I am NEVER doing a black cat again...ha ha they are unlucky. I know the highlights on the shoulder are too noticeable, but if I blur them anymore, then the color goes missing because photoshops blurring is too strong. So...comments? Earth bender Tawny Style! 15:25, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Use a darker color for the highlight then you should use Pixler.com or Gimp although I use nether, I use My Paint but I alway have to remake the background to make it transparent Rainear   be as silent as rain  17:49, August 8,2010

Blur the shading, make the highlights darker. The shading is also lumpy and seems exactly black to me. Make the highlights smaller. Frostheart ♥  17:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I fixed the highlights, shading, and I lightened it. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:28, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 19:08, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are basically taking over the complete picture now. Just redo the paint, add some shading as you would. Blur, then just midtones in highlights, and click once or twice. Make sure it's not bigger than size 50. Frostheart ♥  19:47, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

He looks dark gray...I suggest making the image darker. Dawnleaf 19:53, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I realized that something changed in the pixlr highlighter, so get rid of the highlights, redo the shading and choose a slightly lighter color for the highlight, choosesize 50 and just pretend thats the highlight. ^^ Frostheart  ♥  22:07, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED:Frostheart, I use photoshop, not pixlr. (I only use it to delete the white part). Anyways, I darkened the image,fixed the highlights. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:30, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights smaller and make the shading noticeable in the leg area. Frostheart ♥  02:37, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I made the shading a bit more noticable, but I epically FAILED on the making it smaller part. ;P Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 13:52, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's much better now. Just even out the shading on the hind leg. That's it. xD Frostheart  ♥  19:12, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Ifixed the shading on the hind leg. Suggestons? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:08, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch,otherwise this is great! :) 22:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little lopsided. 03:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks fine to me. 13:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Same here. And actually, black cats are lucky in Europe, and white cats are bad. 0.o 12:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: fixed the hind leg shading. Suggestons? Tawny is here... 22:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading.-- 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Where, specifically? (sorry, but I'm starting to get demented ;P)


 * I'd say to thicken it on the chest and haunch but not the midriff, and to blur it everywhere =) 08:59, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Thickened the shading, but the shading on the haunch won't blur anymore, I'd HIGHLY appreciate it if someone could help me with the blurring, and I also lightened the highlights because I thought they could have used some brightning. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 16:11, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I opened this on GIMP and I don't think I blurred it that well. xD I think you darkened the shading too much. 16:23, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Frostheart! Yeah, my shading is now like permenatly black on like all settings, I don't know why. Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

You should change the opacity, it usually is on 50 you can change it to like 20. :P For Gimp, just adjust the thing at the bottom. :P 18:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I took your advice, Frostheart. Fixed the shading and lowered the opacity. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm very picky. xD The ear-pink is very blurred.... ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  22:56, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Great :( ... do I have to re-do it, or...un-blur it (is that even possible?) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 00:44, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is what I do :P. I color pick the area nearest to the ear-pink (the highlights,shadows etc) I fill the pink with that. It's okay if it isn't the exact same color. Choose an ear-pink color make a triangle, blah and then blur it. The blurring should even out the pelt color if it wasn't the same. 14:37, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to fix the earpink, but I made it MORE blurred I think....Random Question, but Frostheart, are you an apprentice or warrior for the PCA?

Yeah, I'm an apprentice. Why? :P

I just thought because you give good advice that you'd be a warrior, and you are very helpful!! :D Well when you get your 5th charart approved, I'll definatly be cheering for you!! Anyways, back to charart, any critcism? 00:23, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a little whispy, are you using a smudge tool? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:33, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hehe. Thanks. ^.^ 02:54, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

No, I don't use the smudge tool, I use blur...but I've noticed that it's looking sort of...whispyish. I'll fix it ASAP. 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder, school starts on Monday for me, so I'm not going to have that much time. So on Monday, someone is free to take this and continue to work on it, if that's allowed... 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'll work on it a bit if you'd like, and if it's allowed. :P 17:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading.-- 18:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: That'd be great, Frostheart! You can start the work immediatly on Monday. And I blurred the shading and highlights as much as I could. 18:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Am I allowed to keep up my Jagged Rock photo and help you work on this? 19:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it depends. I might leave Charart for a few months so I could focus on school work, but basically, yes. But I need to talk to Bramble about it... 19:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, don't leave. :( 23:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

lol if I don't my dad will murder me (it's happened before...) But I won't leave forever! Basically, I would only come on for like the weekends and a month at a time because my main goal is school work. But definatly by December I'll be a full member again.

Just blur the shading more and this should be ready-- 01:17, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :) Please leave messages on my talk-page to know your alive. :P Just blur the shading a tiny bit, it's great. 02:03, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading more, but if I go any harder, my computers gonna blow up at me. And don't worry, I'll stop in every now and then to tell you that I'm alive lol xD Any more Comments? 13:27, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Try blurring the haunch and chest shading a bit more-- 17:33, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading as much as I could. Still, theres barely a difference :( Someone else is going to have to try and blur it, because my computer will NOT cooperate when it comes to blurring (first it was too strong, now it's too weak) 01:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Comments before approval?-- 20:23, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights and shading really need to be blurred. But hey, isn't Tawny leaving the project? I suppose someone could always just touch it up for her. 17:43, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree with Mossy, but I don't know about Tawny. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:46, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Since Tawny has left the project, is this going to be archived? 15:33, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Well, she did give somebody permission to work on it, I think. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:57, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

If someone takes over, blur the shading. 23:28, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

She said I could take over, but I still have my Jag photo up, and I'm pretty sure that has to be archived first. :P - 02:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Frostheart, when you get a chance to work on this, give him a torn ear :3 12:00, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :P 03:49, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - And blur the highlights. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:17, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I will add the torn ear later. 20:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Can you add some highlights? I know they're not required, but without them it sort of just looks like a solid black cat. 07:18, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Something is really messed up with Pixlr's highlighter. -.- Should I redo this? 15:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Since this is officially handed over to you, I can comment on it without getting rocks chucked at me. I think that you should try to get either GIMP or Photoshop. I use Photoshop, it cam for free with my tablet, and GIMP is a free download off the internet. And about the highlights, I'd just say try to put them on as bright as they go (believe it or not, I think Shadow is the brightest setting..o.o) and set exposure on 100% to see if the highlights show up....it might work... Earth bender Tawny Style! 23:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I do have Gimp. I use both for an image. XD 00:45, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Tear his ear >_< 01:01, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

This looks weird, right? xD 22:13, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image, and add a highlight on his shoulder (I know they're optional, but you have one on his flank :P) 23:52, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty. :P First time using Gimp highlights, besides practice. XD 03:38, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lightened it again. 03:11, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller and desaturate it-- 17:44, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Done. 03:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and I'm not so sure about these things, but I think the highlight on his back looks kinda odd, so maybe blur it more or remove it. I can't tell which would look better XD 07:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Added a subtle highlight. Sigh, highlights on a black cat are so annoying for me. xD 15:21, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I added 2 more images. I tried a new style and I fixed up another black cat I made. Which one do you guys think are better? xD 16:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I like the middle one, he looks furry like a rral cat. just blurr the highlights a little bit on it and it looks good!! 17:45, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say the middle one Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 17:49, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. :D Don't mind the ear-pink on the third one. XD I tried blurring the ear-pink, but I can't without ruining the texture. 18:50, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good Frostheart. I would go with the middle one. 01:55, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

If you're picking the middle one (which I suggest you to, it's the best one ^^) then delete the other two and rename it Rockshade.warrior. Then desaturate the earpink =) 02:56, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I picked it, since everyone likes it. XD I'll get to the edits tomorrow, it's kind of late right now. 03:14, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good frostheart :D I'd suggest making the ear pink a tad bit smaller though :) 00:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really make the ear-pink smaller without ruining the line-art. 00:29, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the highlights then. 01:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (A) - For Approval


MY FIRST CHARART!!!! =D

Elorisa has yet to decide, which means so have I. The striped style or the patched tabby style? The patched tabby style looks more like Elorisa's, but I like the regularly-striped one better. Even though it doesn't look very much like Elorisa's. Anyways, comments? =D 02:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink needs to be bigger. The patched one looks really blotchy to me. Do the striped one more like the Creekfeather one up for approval. :P 02:42, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Will do. But even though the second one is prettier, it doesn't really look like Elorisa's and I couldn't get the patched tabby one to look... well.. patched-tabby-ish lol ... Argh... -- 02:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed earpink -- 03:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I like the patched tabby. Blurr the stripes on the striped one a bit. Ic eh ea rt    Will the thaw ever come?  03:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

All of them? Or certain ones? Specific, please =) -- 04:59, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the stripes a little bit. Problem, though. I use GIMP, and, unfortunately when I saved this as a .png (because the wiki can't upload .xcf s) I accidentally forgot to save it as a .xcf as well, so now my little flashing line around the lineart is gone and I can blur the lineart where I couldn't before. So I'm having issues working on it without blurring or drawing on the lineart. Does anybody have suggestions? -- 05:17, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really help with that. I just save it on png on Gimp and it's fine. As for the image, make the striped one more like zigzags unless you like it this way. Blur the ear-pink a bit more. 15:30, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Second one. Blur the stripes there and lighten it. On the first one, darken the patches. 18:31, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the patched one. 23:08, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I like how the patched one looks, but the stripes one needs to lightened. Ic eh ea rt    Will the thaw ever come?  00:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Patched: thickened shading, added a few patches, blurred earpink. Striped: dodged whole image with a brush on 10% exposure, fixed lineart issue (THANK YOU ICEHEART), blurred earpink. Better? -- 01:16, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Both images: darken the head shading, it's not visible. 01:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Both images: Darken the ear pink. Patched one: blur it more. 02:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

What should I blur? The earpink? -- 03:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

If you decide on the regularly striped one, I'd say blur the stripes, and add more striping to the legs, face and tail. 21:50, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

'Kay, I'll add more stripes to the legs, but the tail I tried to copy from the warrior pic, which doesn't have as many stripes, I think, and could you give me some tips on how to stripe the face? I tried when I was first making it, but it just looked stupid, so I took them off -- 05:39, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Elorisa has decided on the patched one 13:19, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes she has. So, define the stripes, as I said before, it looks blotchy--ish. xD 20:10, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Can you take out the stripe by the eye? it looks like its coming out of the eye. Sunny frost  20:19, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

It does not matter. Elorisa chose the patched one. 23:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

oh ok Sunny  frost  23:19, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is taking so long, but I'm working on renovating my bedroom. Please don't decline, as I AM working on it. Comments noted. -- 22:22, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

The spot on his haunch looks funny. Either remove it, lighten it up, or add little speckles around it. (Sorry if I sound demanding!) Willow  heart  1231  00:36, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Add some spots to the face to, it just kind of stops ina line on the the neck.--  Ic eh ea rt     Will the thaw ever come? : 19:25, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any more comments? -- 18:08, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

He is very pretty, just blurr the highlight on his face a little more and he's purrrrrfect;)-- I c e    h e  a r  t♥  : 00:08, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded This look good? -- 01:40, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading. -- 22:13, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thickened shading and added a few patches. Comments? I am desperate to do whatever it takes to get this approved XD -- 03:33, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks really dark along the back and haunch. Lighten it a tiny bit. 18:05, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can you tell? For some reason, it looks like it didn't reupload. Is that silly? Is it just me? -- 06:41, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded again Checking to see if the uploader is working. If not, I'll try again in the morning. Any more comments? Please? I love comments XD 08:39, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

It is definitely working. PLEASE COMMENT. I really wanna get this approved =D 01:51, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken/blurr the shading along the back, but don't make it any darker.-- 02:02, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's this? 03:11, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to be impatient, but all I ever do is go on WW, so I get impatient naturally.... Any comments?? 23:16, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the shading, and give him more patched stripes. 23:49, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened the shading (it still looks bad) and added a few patches, but I'm having issues. I can't make them look good!! GRAR! lol any tips for making the patches look normal-ish? 01:23, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks as good as any other approved image. But i'm just an apprentice and can't do much about it.-- 23:36, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, thanks Special K. It means a lot =) 01:34, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh! I DEEPLY apologize for being so impatient, but I can't help it! COMMENTS, PLEASE! XD 23:14, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

If no one says anything constructive, i can keep saying how nice it is, which it is, and together Wildheart and i will take up the entire charart page XD just you wait and see.-- 23:20, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Wildheart, please be patient. Asking for comments because you can't wait a few days isn't going to accomplish anything other than cluttering up the talk page, which is not a good thing. Anyway, lighten the shading, and add more patches. If you don't know how to do that particluar stripe style, I suggest asking Elorisa for some help. 00:25, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Oblivion, but all I do is go on WW all day( I'm a bit of a loser =P) so it's kinda of... a side effect, if you will. I promise to be more patient in the future =) Oh, and I'm editing my pic as you're reading this haha 01:17, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't see anything wrong, and I agree with you Wildheart. Im a WWiki nerd. Earth bender Tawny Style! 14:21, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval, then? -- 04:56, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the shading onhis head -- 07:46, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's this? 08:48, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Match up the tabby style with Elorisa's. -- 17:12, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks enough like the warroir image, but blurr the back shading-- 23:42, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I personally do not. Darken the patches, make them bigger, and smudge. -- 23:46, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

What happened to my image?? Why is it a redlink?? 22:29, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Try reuploading it again. -- 01:10, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I figured out what happened. Bramble moved the page so that she could rename it. All this panic over nothing =) I fixed it. oops, forgot to sign   01:43, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh and I'm sorry Frost, but I don't think it really needs much changing. Does anybody else agree with me? 01:54, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Whiskers (SC) - For Approval
First black cat. Hopefully it doesn't suck.--Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  00:55, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger. 01:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes look really really bright. While you're making the highlights bigger, add one to the back and tail. And the face highlight seems really low down. 02:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the eyes, add more highlights on the tail. Echofall Fate is in your paws 02:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Lighten the face highlight. Darken and blur the ear pink. Other than that, this is well done. 14:01, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  14:53, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

You still need to make the highlights a bit bigger on his flank. Make the ones on the tail more noticible. 14:56, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

This is weird...the new edits aren't showing up. You can see them on the two previous uploads before this one on the file history, but it's not showing up here.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  14:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the haunch highlight bigger, add a highlight to the tail, and lighten his muzzle just a bit. Willow heart  1231  00:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I did all those things, and I reuploaded it, but the new version isn't showing up on the page.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  14:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I uploaded it as a new file entirely, so now it's working.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  14:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the highlights on the tail and haunch. -- I c e    h e  a r  t♥  : 21:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur Highlights. -- Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 16:44, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  23:35, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Dark Whiskers.sharpclaw 22:11, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

I had to name it Dark Whiskers.Sharpclaw2 because of the error I described above.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:47, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

But that's fixed now. Change the file name to Dark Whiskers.sharpclaw 21:52, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Just changed it right now.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  23:08, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are really concentrated, they look like spots. Blur the highlights. --<span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command... 06:08, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Reuploaded. And the same problem's happening again...--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:34, September 15, 2010 (UTC) Uh, wasn't clara meant to do this??? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:aqua">Zoe27 <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:violet">Gossip Queen!!! 19:06, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Zoe Clara's two weeks are long past up. Imagewise blur the highlights. 19:36, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights need to be enlarged as well.

Guys, I blurred the hightlights and enlarged them. The problem is, whenever I reupload the image, the "current" image is the previous version before I reuploaded the new version. If you click on the image and look at the previous versions, you can see the version that's supposed to be the current version, but is listed as a previous version. Hope that makes sense.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  18:25, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

If you click on the image and it pops up in that little window, that's the current version. So before commenting/critiquing, please look at the current version.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  18:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

The image in the window looks the same as the one on the page to me. The highlights still need to be blurred. 21:55, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  22:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and give them some more shape. They don't all have to look the same; make the one on his neck curve more to the shape of his head, and the ones on the tail should make it look more like you can tell wheere the light source is coming from. Their placement is kind of off. 18:59, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights and, like Oblivion said, give them more shape. Black cats are really hard to get right. -- 00:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (K) - For Approval
Eh, my apologies, his markings look much like the ones on his warrior/apprentice images. I can redo it, but for now, here he is. Comments? TheBlindApprentice 22:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather doesn't have an apprentice or a warrior image so I don't know what you are talking about. Darken the shading and blur it thoroughly, it is very blotchy right now. Add more tabby stripe and add ear-pink. 22:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. This is over the limit, so this will have to be declined. Try again when theres avaliable space. -- 23:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's fine. I just declined Egg's image, so this is under the limit. 23:37, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

. Blur it, I agree with Frostheart that it does look blotchy. Also, add ear pink. Make the ear pink a lightish color. Willow heart  1231  23:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I agree with Frostheart about adding more tabby stripes. And if you're going to add some on the legs and/or haunch, you should lighten those areas; the legs and haunch seem to be the same color as the stripes. 00:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Creeakfeather has apprentice and warrior images up for approval, this needs to match those stripes. Otherwise, blur the shading and highlights. 02:58, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather needs to be patched. 03:06, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I thought Creakfeather was a tabby? 13:28, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Er, I think there was a discussion a while ago, and Elorisa decided that Creekfeather should be patched. 13:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, my image is a tabby, it just looks patched. Elorisa -sama  19:44, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

LOL, I don't think you can decide to change the character's appearance. It's just the stripe style Elorisa used, that's all. 21:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. :P But this looks tabby, not patched, so..xD Could you modify it to change the other images? 22:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

It supposed to be tabby...just blur the stripes. It can be fixed. 19:54, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Um.. you should probably add earpink XD --

I see ear-pink..o_o 14:35, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

REALLY? The ears are gray for me.... like just plain gray... weird. Does anybody else see it or am I crazy? =P -- 22:56, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

No ear pink here either 01:31, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I can see the ear pink fine. Darken the stripes on the forearms and tail-- 01:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened stripes and added highlights. Sorry for the wait, I was kinda distracted. TheBlindApprentice 17:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

This needs to look like his warrior image which has been approved. 00:58, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for creating such a hard image to copy xD. This looks wonderful, just blur the highlight on his chest. 11:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay NOW I can see the earpink LOL maybe make the patches more... patchy? Lol idk how to describe it, but it looks a little too regular. 00:17, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm...I still don't see an ear pink. at all. Make him darker and change his stripes, he doesn't look like the warrior/apprentice pictures. 04:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is fine, Iceheart. 04:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't know, considering i can't SEE it. 04:34, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

That must be your computer Iceheart. I can see it very clearly. Blur the earpink a tiny bit. 19:58, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

no I dont see it either O.o<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  22:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oi, Sorry for all this fuss over the earpink. When I first uploaded it, I had forgotten to add some, but I reuploaded, I'll upload again, hopefully it works this time. TheBlindApprentice 23:00, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I can see it now, blurr the highlights on the chest. 23:49, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the earpink. 00:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (MCA) - For Aproval
My first Charart for PCA !!!! Comments? <font color="Yellow" style="background:Purple">Sunstar27 'Be true to your dreams... 16:15, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Don't put it in a thumbnail. Also, rename this Yellowfang.mca.png. 16:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Make it look like her medicine cat image ->Make her fur more like that, make the herbs yellow, add scars on her face. 16:34, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ill Re-Upload it tomorow! :D i wasnt sure wether she had scars or not, and i didnt know what colour the herbs were s'posed to be, so sorry. :) <font color="Yellow" style="background:Purple">Sunstar27 'Be true to your dreams... 17:02, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

'''why do the herbs have to be yellow?  Sunny  frost'''  19:54, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

The herbs don't have to be yellow, theres more then one type of herb, and its not like she would always be carrying around the same ones. Brighten the highlights and blur the shading. Also make the ear pink smaller. -- 20:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

They should be yellow for consitency, actually. 20:54, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it matters unless she's always holding the same herbs. The ear pink is too big, and darken the shading/add highlights for consistency. 21:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Oblivion. Also, add shading to the legs and blur it a lot. The ear-pink is too big and blur the highlights. 22:26, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the herbs make a big difference; like Mosspool said, she's not always holding the same herbs. But maybe add more highlights and make the fur look more like her medicine cat image. 23:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

oh ok. i was just wondering so sorry for doing it in bold and underline. shrink the ear pink and blur it. try to fix up some of the highlights on the tail, it looks like one side it dark gray and the other side it Yellowfang color. Sunny frost  00:37, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, the herbs don't have to e the same color. There are more than one type of herb. I would blur the shading, and add highlights (they are optional, but well worth it on a black/gray cat.) Darkhallows... Mew? 00:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

This looks light gray, make it darker. 17:56, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

The color looks fine. If it were light gray, it would look like this:

14:53, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't look light gray, but in comparison to her other images it's quite a bit too light. 03:30, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hi guys, sorry, ive re done it but its taking a g e s to upload so ill do it later,Ive changed the herbs, changed the earpink, darkend the shading and blurred them, blurred the highlights darkened her colour, but i dont know how to shade her tail, so ill have to get some help on that. sorry for taking ages, and thankyou for your comments! <font color="Yellow" style="background:Purple">Sunstar27 'Be true to your dreams... 16:30, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oh scars! umm, should i add them or not?<font color="Yellow" style="background:Purple">Sunstar27 'Be true to your dreams... 16:30, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

I believe we already discussed that you should add them. So, yes. 19:15, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

 *Re-Uploaded*  Comments?I dont like how it came out though. :/ <font color="Yellow" style="background:Purple">Sunstar27 'Be true to your dreams... 15:22, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Blur, or use some other method of making them less distinct. Also, I don't think herb color is that important. I mean, we're focusing on the cat, not the yarrow, right? Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:46, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, scars, and ear pink 20:50, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes need to be blurred and thickened a bit. Add shading to the herbs. Also, darken the shading and blur the highlights. 22:10, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Try to lighten the image a bit so it matches the medicine cat, and blur the SCARS not stripes (lol I <3 u Frostheart) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 21:11, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the scars, and mess up the fur more, like her Medicine Cat Picture. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 23:33, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Please remember to put the date you reserved this on the reservations table. Darkhallows... Mew? 12:10, September 11, 2010 (UTC) 1193477C-A375-C968-069C-C1818BA7C5911.03.01

The highlights are too concentrated, spread them out more. 17:43, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It looks better now, but the highlights are too concentrated and you need to make them furry. I can help you with that, if you want. 19:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make it a bit smaller. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  16:52, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Also, blur the shading, scars, and add shading to the herbs. 23:47, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image, blur the scars and earpink, and make her more furry. 23:45, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

 *Re-Uploaded*  Ok, I will re-do the fur, but other than that, comments? <font color="Yellow" style="background:Purple">Sunstar27 'Be true to your dreams... 15:52, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make it whiter and match the texture to her images. 00:52, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a bit whispy. Are you trying to match the medicine cat version for the highlights/texture/whatever it's called? Earth bender Tawny Style! 19:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Add some highlights and shading to the herbs. 00:18, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Egg (Lo) - For Approval
-I'm really proud of this. =) I worked hard on it, and I really like the way how I did the shading. Comments? 23:52, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

It's really great. :D Make the ear-pink darker. 00:01, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading along his back. 00:05, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Thanks Frost! I blurred the shading and made the ear pink darker. 00:09, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the earpink a tiny bit more noticible? 00:24, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

What about the shredded ear? :3 01:39, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, add the shredded ear. :P I can see the ear-pink fine, but make it more triangular. 02:36, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I added the shredded ear, took me lots of times. :P I also smudged the ear pink into a more triangular shape, and I darkened the ear pink a tad. 12:06, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on his ears. 20:34, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

The torn ear looks a bit tufted. Make the tear more noticeable and not stick out-- 01:17, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the head a bit. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  16:57, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Icy told me to tell you that she will be gone for a week and to not decline this Squirrel  Do You know... THE MUFFIN MAN!?!?!?!undefined 20:01, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. Well, for when she gets back, the shading on the ears is way too dark, lighten it. 23:32, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

It might be better if you got some transparency...I think the ear should be shredded a bit more, it's barely noticable, but otherwise nice!

<font color="Red" font face="Papyrus" font style="background:yellow; border:3px dashed-moz-border-radius: 1em; orange;"> Z orth <font color=#4ea9ba>El Awsome Line 23:41, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 17:48, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

But Squirrel said Icestorm will be gone for a week! 21:54, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that is true. Her computer is broken and she has not received her new one yet. 17:11, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I'm back! 21:37, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more. 19:01, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

It can't blur anymore. 21:58, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit brighter then. ^^ 22:02, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights near the chest area. 00:21, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rainwhisker (Alt A)-For Approval


Rainwhisker as he appeared in 'A Clan In Need' 23:16, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Someone get it out of this box! XD 23:18, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it. :P 23:19, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the spots and make the earpink darker (a little) and bigger. 00:36, September 11, 2010 (UTC) 10:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Making the earpink bigger wouldmake it too big, Iceheart. But yes, make it darker. Blur the spots. 01:17, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Made ear pink darker and tried to blur spots without over blurring. Didn't work XD. 01:28, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I remember it being said we didn't do alterntae images for when a cat was just shown in a picture a certain way because the artist guy always screws stuff up? 01:46, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Really? I'm new here, remember that. 01:54, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wait a minute- what about Ice and Snake? They have alt images. 01:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the patches on his tail. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:06, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 02:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we should have this image here, we can only guess what color his fur and patches are. <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...06:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

You know, I was looking around for an image to do and saw on Rainwhisker's page in the Trivia section 'Rainwhisker is shown as a gray and white tom in A Clan in Need' 11:49, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It could be a gray tom with a white belly, if you know what I'm saying. ;) Also, in the trivia section, it does not have a source, so it could be false or something. :P 15:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Just went to Books a Million and checked A Clan In Need and it's true- he's a grey and white tom 16:14, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I see gray splotches around the image. Remove them. 20:41, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Something's wrong with Gimp- I can't do ANYTHING! It's stuck on blur when I was making another version more accurate to the manga and poof- It got stuck! 21:30, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sigh- I'm sad to do this but I'll withdraw this b/c of stupid Gimp. Someone can take over for me if they want.... 01:27, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

You may just need to restart your computer. GIMP freezes on me all the time. It works just fine after I restart it. 01:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! 14:02, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I put up another version more accurate to the manga up to consider. I don't know which one to use :P 15:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think the first one looks better, but that's just my opinion. 15:39, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but the second one's more accurate to the manga. 15:42, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Either way, make the ear-pink darker and a little bit bigger. It isn't very noticiable. 20:55, September 12, 2010 (UTC) 01:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 21:35, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Which image are you working on? Blur the shading on the second one. 19:48, September 15, 2010 (UTC)'

1st one's pretty while the second one's accurate to the manga :P I'm asking users which one they prefer and stuff. I blurred the shading as much as I could 22:02, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I prefer the first one, but blur the earpink on the second one 02:21, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred earpink. I think I'll have to do the pretty one from the looks of it. 10:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Just realized that he 1st one's ear looked weird so I fixed it XD 00:05, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink still needs to be darker. 12:26, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

On which one? 21:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well both of them, but which ever one you are working on. XD 02:18, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Better? I darkened the ear pink and removed the second one 11:11, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit more triangular. 23:32, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest using the smudge tool to smudge it into a triangular shape. 00:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 01:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make it stretch out farther into the ear. 01:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy (Alt. Queen) - For Approval
Comments? Elorisa -sama  23:25, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable and the shading more noticeable too. 23:40, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is really light, darken it and blur the shading, otherwise, this is beautiful :) <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...03:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks Sunny. Better? 12:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I still can't see the ear-pink. 15:21, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It looks sort of gray. 20:52, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Must be some pale gray. xD I see it fine, though the shading is a bit blotchy. 20:54, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

The colour is fine, but I agree, the shading is kinda blotchy, so blur it ^^ 02:26, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I can't do her anymore. Withdrawing. 12:29, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 16:28, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I could finish this up, if that's okay with Elorisa. 12:28, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Its fine. Cobalt paw  ღ  12:38, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I will start working on it! :) 01:47, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

@Whitestorm, make sure you darken the shading and make the ear-pink more noticeable. :) 02:58, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm not sure if I made the shading dark enough. 02:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more--it looks a little blotchy. 02:37, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, also, there is some blurred line-art in various places. 02:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? 03:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Daisy.queen.alt, blur the shading a ton, and there is some blurred line art. Did you start a new layer for the shading? 19:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading. Darken a ton. Make the earpink a tad more triangular. I see some spots on the foreleg, hind haunch, upper back, and tailtip where lineart is blurred. Echo Leaf-fall.. 00:11, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink into a triangular shape. the shading along the back has a black smudge there. I think it's the line-art. 00:26, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ice (Alt R)-For Approval
heres Ice as he is in "A clan In Need". Comments? <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 23:29, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Iceheart already has this up for approval. 23:39, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Before you post something, check to make sure the information you are putting is absolutely correct. I do believe Iceheart had Snake up for approval, who is Ice's brother. Moreover, I've just approved Snake. -- 23:42, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Darken the shading a bit and blur the ear pink-- 23:46, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry Bramble. I thought Iceheart had Ice up. Blur the ear-pink. 23:51, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Ya, i did Snake. Make the first stripe darker or blurr the second (i had the same problem). Maybe make the nose grey, because it's on the black fur. 00:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back and belly shading. 16:56, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Uploader's not working for me. :( <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 03:26, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the earpink a little less hot pinky. 18:27, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, less hot-pink. Also, make it bigger. 20:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

It is not hot-pink. But I agree, make the ear-pink bigger. 20:34, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded fixed most but like I said The uploader wasn't working. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 00:37, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

This looks lovely :) But the collar spikes are weird. Also, darken the black patches. 23:13, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The first black patch now is wierd, sorry. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 00:34, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. In fact, everything except the tail-shading looks wonderful. Blur the shading on the tail a bit, though. 02:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded How about now? is it good enough? <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 02:42, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ehh, I still think you should make the black darker. 03:44, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

When I do that it looks like a black stripe with gray sides. this is as dark as I can allow it to be with out looking crazy. Sorry.<span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <sub style="line-height: 1em; "><span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 22:45, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks great. Don't darken the stripe any more, and yes, Fiercestar, the tail looks good. 01:40, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

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Reuploaded Lightened ear pink. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 19:17, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, does Ice need reinforced dog claws? I'm not sure. :P 17:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Snake got the claws, so i think he does to. Add some big claws 17:11, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded added claws, but look Here. you see any claws. It doesnt matter if his brother has them. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 20:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Try adding a bit more white by the flank. 23:30, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Where? On the leg, or on the side?<span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 23:33, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome job! The only thing I can see is that the back hind leg looks kinda flat, so maybe add some extra shading at the very top of it, where the leg meets the belly. I think it'd be darker there. 23:26, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlight on the hind leg nearest to the tail (Sorry xD) 00:28, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Pebbleheart (W) - For Approval
I hope this looks alright! My fourth charart! :) Comment for approval? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading a bit, center the earpink and desaturate it. 01:15, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and darken the shading. 01:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:51, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger and blur them. =) 20:40, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 20:58, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little lighter. 22:02, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:07, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripes look sorta unatural, but maybe thats just me. <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...22:42, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it does look a bit un-natural. Maybe you should try another style of tabby? But again. might just me. 15:13, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

yes also there is a pixel on his chest that is not colored in <font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  18:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I was just trying to get the stripes to match up with the design on his medicine cat charart. But if you all think they need to be redone, I'll give it a go. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 19:17, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I re-did the tabby pattern... What do you think? Comments? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 19:37, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I like how his stripes are now, make the ear pink a bit smaller. 19:50, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ends of the stripes sharper. 19:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink as well. 20:18, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 20:31, September 12, 2010 (UTC).

Lighten it to match the first color image. Sorry. :P That one is the same color as Pebbleheart's other image. 20:33, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear-pink bigger. :) 20:47, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected, except for the ear pink. I think it's big enough... ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:03, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:52, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:39, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten him a bit, so he matches his warrior image. 05:26, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:36, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's beautiful, but define the stripes a bit more =) 02:33, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected! :) 21:57, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Center the ear pink and lighten it-- 17:50, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 21:42, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

It's a little too light now, make it more reddish. -- 03:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the ear-pink should be biggger. On your first image, the ear-pink is bigger than it is now. 12:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 13:58, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is way too bright. 17:08, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 20:00, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

It looks red to me, though it might just be my computer. 02:15, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. Sorry, but updates will start coming more slowly. School's getting more complicated and I have Stage crew. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 03:27, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, and make it a bit lighter as well. 23:29, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. I got the color from his medicine cat charart, but I'll re-do it if you think i should. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 00:17, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and put it closer to the ear, it isn't very close to the ear now. 03:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink and blur the highlight on the face. This is really good :) 00:29, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Petalnose (W) - For Approval
Well, my first charart. Bad, but who cares!!!! Comments??? <span style="color:Maroon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Silver;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Maroon;">Alpha  Power to the Pack!  01:54, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

The eye has a purple tint 01:58, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Add and darken the shading along her back and add some shadows between her ears on her forehead. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:59, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

This is great for a first charart! Darken the shading along her back. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:aqua">Zoe27 <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:violet">Gossip Queen!!! 17:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading around the whole thing, and possiblr lighten the tail a little. 22:40, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. -- 22:44, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and thicken the shading a lot. Make the ear pink smaller. 23:09, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: Fixed everything. Comments? <span style="color:Maroon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Silver;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Maroon;">Alpha  Power to the Pack!  20:19, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the neck under the head. See Hazeltail's warrior image for an example. Blur the shading, too. 21:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Blur the shading. Our User Page

Updated: Like this? <span style="color:Maroon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Silver;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Maroon;">Alpha  Power to the Pack!  14:00, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it a bit more. -- 16:49, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink. 12:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, blur it, and thicken it. 17:07, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: Is THIS blurred enough? <span style="color:Maroon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Silver;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Maroon;">Alpha  Power to the Pack!  19:29, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it more. It helps if you smudge it, blur, smudge, blur, etc. Willow  heart  1231  02:21, September 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Thicken the shading. 03:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think It's thick enougth Rainear   Let the rain guide you  03:37, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the head and midriff. 21:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a tad bit smaller. 00:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Frecklewish (MCA) - For Approval
....Comments? 02:51, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make her stripes a bit thinner. 02:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, this doesn't look that much like her other image. Lighten it, add some specks to it, make the stripes thinner and add more-- 02:58, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Did my best =) 03:03, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make it a bit more golden. Add more stripes down her back. Darken the ear pink. Make the arm stripes longer. -- 03:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add a smaller speckle above the one on her cheek? Define the patch on her flank. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 03:08, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Completely redid the stripes/markings, and darkened ear pink. 03:26, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Add some specks on her chest. Darken the shading-- 04:02, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

On her other images she has more mottles and the stripes are rounder. 05:03, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten her some more. 20:50, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 18:55, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Why is that one spot next to her eye so big? On her other versions she doesn't have a spot as big as that 19:05, September 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * -sigh- Re-uploaded and changed it. 19:13, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the reason this image is darker than Frecklewish's other two images is because not only are some of the mottled spots made like the tabby stripes are, but there are also mottled spots made by using the dodge tool for some lighter spots (I think). On this image there are only darker spots, but on the other images there are lighter spots as well, so add some lighter spots to this image. Also, did you add the highlights before you made the stripes or afterwards? I think that on the others the highlights were afterwards and made the image lighter. One more thing: I know that you got rid of the really big spot by the eye, but a decent sized spot should still go on the neck to match the other apprentice image, and because the neck looks really empty. Sorry for the really big and complicated paragraph, but hopefully it'll help. :) 19:54, September 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I added the highlighs afterwards. I'll make the stripes more like the other images by changing the opacity of the stripes; hopefully that'll help, then I'll do all that other stuff you said xD 19:56, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear pink darker? :) 20:09, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Or, more pink, perhaps? 20:27, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I added some lighter spots, and made the stripes lighter. 20:45, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Looks better to me. 23:33, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink seems a bit brown to me. 00:45, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Made earpink pinker. 19:32, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

It looks kind of like a cream color to me. 01:09, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the opposite haunch. It stands out a bit. Other than that... looking good! 02:36, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 20:48, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe blur out or enlarge the highlight on the haunch, because it kinda just looks like a brighter circle. It's not a large flaw, just kinda subtly off a bit. 23:33, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 00:10, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I know we're not supposed to just comment to compliment.... but.... Very nice. =D 01:11, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the head highlight, add more specks along her chest and shoulder-- 17:52, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 18:23, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the head, it's a lot lighten than the rest of her body-- 03:13, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 03:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the opposite ear. 08:51, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it needs darkening. The light source seems as if it is coming from the back of the head. xD Just because we see it from one side, doesn't mean the other ear needs to be darker as if it is a shadow. 17:07, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more goldy? xD 02:02, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 23:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more flecks to the haunch. 21:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading along the bottom of the tail. This is lovely :) 00:33, September 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * There is shading on her tail :) Tried to re-upload, but it won't work >_< I'll just have to wait... 01:32, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Waspwhisker (KP)- For Approval
My first kittypet, I really enjoyed doing Waspwhisker as a warrior, so I decided to do the kittypet version! Constructments? --<span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...03:49, September 11, 2010

Blur the white. 03:54, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. and define the ear pink. This is great! 03:56, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Blurred white, darkened shading and defined ear pink. Thank you Dawny :) <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...04:30, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

This looks lovely, but the white markings look pale yellow. 05:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Mosspool :3 The white color is the same as his warrior image though! :) <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you<span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">command...06:01, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. It does look like a pale yellow. Blur the ear-pink. 15:15, September 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * pale yellow? Clearly my eyesight is going. The colour looks okay to me. 17:36, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it does have a yellowish tint but it looks the same as his warrior image and is fine. Blur the transition on the paws a bit more. 18:13, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the belly shading extend farther into the belly, instead of being just a blob of shading. Also, blur the back shading near the tail. 20:38, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

There is a tiny bit of blurred-line-art on the front leg, though I bet no one would've noticed that..except for me. xD 20:40, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Blurred shading on the tail, made belly shading larger, fixed line-art (Thanks Frostheart XD). I like how he turned out. :) <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...22:12, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on his back. 22:29, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Done <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...22:40, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the shading a ton Dappleclaw Tigerstar's best buddeh!! 01:18, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Done! <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...03:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I, think you forgot to make his bell colored. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 03:28, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Well Spotted Fiercestar! Thanks! 04:05, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink brighter. 20:08, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the color of the ear pink is fine, but define it some. 20:24, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

On my computer, I can barely see it. 20:32, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Whitestorm, but the earpink is the exact same color as the warrior image. 07:00, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, maybe it can be tweaked later on. 21:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Add some white to the belly area. 04:02, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the belly needs any white, but blur the shading on the bottom of the haunch. I've always liked the kittypet pics =) 02:38, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Wildheart- Do you mean that you like my image or the kittypet blanks? ;P 05:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Both hahahahaha but especially yours. XD Maybe brighten the earpink a little bit cause it kinda blends in 23:35, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry guys but the ear-pink is the exact same color as the warrior image. 07:16, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. This is really good :) -- 16:47, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Dawny! Comments? 21:54, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, Sunny, sorry for the unnecessary comment, then. Maybe enlarge the earpink a little bit. 'Cause it still kinda blends in, but maybe if you make it a bit bigger it'll be better =) 00:07, September 19, 2010 (UTC)\

Reuploaded: Done! :)

Lighten the back shading. 17:06, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I really don't feel the need to lighten the back shading, But it's up to you guys :\ 22:57, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me. CBA? 19:07, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sagepaw (A)- For Approval
Sagepaw as an apprentice. Comments? <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 12:12, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur/darken the shading Darkhallows... Mew? 12:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

err...my Friend MAPLEPOOL has this charSpotteddapple 13:25, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

No..she has Birchfall alternate kit. Well, she has that uploaded. 14:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It won't let me upload the new version. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 16:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Still won't upload the new version. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 17:43, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make his image lighter, like his warrior version ->He is pale gray, after all :D 19:23, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticiable and blur the shadings. Also, the highlight on his haunch looks blotchy. 20:06, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and lighten the image. 20:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Finally got the new version. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 23:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink 04:22, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten/blur the highlights. 23:35, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed earpink and highlights. Anything else? <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 22:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, maybe darken was the wrong word. I meant brighten it. It kinda blends in. 01:42, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Match the ear pink from the warrior image, and then blur or sharpen from there. Willow heart  1231  01:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

(S) - Blur the shading by the tail tip. Our User Page!

I would still make the ear-pink a little bigger and blur it. 12:13, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Fit the ear-pink to match the angle of the line-art. 17:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and make this image the color of it's warrior image. 02:55, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say make it slightly paler overall and lighten the base of the tail a little. It's quite dark! 09:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 20:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights 00:34, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Pikepaw (A)-For approval
I am not sure if it is showing mine? Mine is shorthaired, but doesn't seem to be uploading over the previous version. Darkhallows... Mew? 12:42, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

O.O. What happened to it! 12:53, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yours is showing up in the thumbnail of all of the past versions, but here it's showing a stretched version of the other person's image. This happened to me a couple of times with my own images uploading strangely, and I just waited a while and then uploaded again, so maybe try uploading again? 13:25, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

There it is ^^- Darkhallows... Mew? 11:51, September 12, 2010 (UTC) 1193477C-A375-C968-069C-C1818BA7C5911.03.01

Darken the shading. 16:25, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 23:07, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The eye color looks a little unnatural, but that just might be me 01:07, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller, and you're right, Kittypet, it does look kinda unnatural. 02:41, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink not touch the lineart. 21:44, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink could be smaller all around. 12:11, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Arright. Darkhallows... Mew? 02:17, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

That looks better to me. :) S  t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:52, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the shoulder. 19:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 23:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the face. Sun X Moss Best Friends Forever! 01:05, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. 01:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blossomfall (Ki) (Alt) - For Approval
Sorry for my slight inactivity, marching band has gotten the better of me. I wasn't sure what the preferred way was to leave a new message without having it at the bottom of the page, so I just made one manually, but if I should do it differently let me know. Well, here's Blossomfall's alternate kit image. I had some troubles uploading it but now the changes are showing, so comments and suggestions? 15:20, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think this is over the limit. With Birchfall's image up, though it is in the wrong section. 15:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall's image may have been up first but Ice got her's up in the right section first. The point of the sections is to know how many images are up for approval. Images put up in the wrong section shouldn't count. Blur the shading and highlights. 16:13, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks Ashshadow. :P I was confused about that. Define the stripe a tiny bit. 16:25, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, you got to defining the stripe before I could say reuploaded for blurring the shading and highlights. I'll get to the stripe in a bit. 16:32, September 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm having difficulties defining the stripe because of the way there's shading and part of a highlight on it. Suggestions? 17:07, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 19:58, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I do not know, Icethroat. What I would do, is I would just redraw the stripe, and blur it, then add highlights and the shading, and try to make it as equal as i can. :3 20:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Whitestorm, I've already blurred the highlights, or do you mean blur he highlights some more after my reuploading. Frostheart, I tried that and it didn't look good at all, and the stripe looked too big. Personally I think the stripe is already defined enough, and when I define it is has to be blurred again and the cycle repeats itself infinitely; does anyone else think I should definie the stripe? 20:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire thing, she looks brown, not pale brown. Also, blur the highlights. Other than that, she looks great! 20:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

If you want it to look paler, consider desaturating it. 22:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I meant to blur the highlights some more. 23:16, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say the stripe dosen't need any more blurring or defining, you just might want to sharpen the end of the stripe. But that is just a suggestion. Dappleclaw P-p-p-poker face 03:10, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I meant the highlight on the stomach. 20:15, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry it took a few days, I've been busy (as it seems I always am these days). I think this is just the right color for being pale, and I think that I've finally got the highlight blurred just the right amount (it was an awkward shape, I had to fix its shipe by adding more and then darkening all of them). Comments? 21:18, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

No, this is brown, not pale brown (srry if i sound like a nitpicker) 23:50, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion the brown is fine the way it is. Dappleclaw Danger! Mousefur bites! 01:47, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't look pale, though. Pale brown would be like Fallowfern's image. 03:46, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree; try using the color of the highlights. Our User Page!

It is a little off, I suppose, but it is really good and I don't think you should redo the ENTIRE thing just because of a few comments. I think if you just dodge the entire image with like, the brush on 10%, it will look fine. Just my opinion 01:08, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I edited the image and made it paler to match close to Fallowfern's image by desaturating it (with the hue and saturation bar under adjustment on pixlr) before all of the comments past Flowerleaf's were put up, but my computer is hating me right now and is trying to tell me I can't open the file because it's in use in another program when it's not. Restarting my computer will probably help (hopefully), but if not then I get to edit the image again (whoo...there's a reason I save under a different file name on my computer each time...); however, I'm at a point right now in a few other things on my laptop that I'm not at a good point to restart it, but hopefully I'll get a chance to restart it tomorrow or in a couple of days. So please only comment on something besides the brown color until I can get the new pale-colored version uploaded. Thanks. 03:13, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

You may want to blur the highlights on the tail, and shading by the chest and paws. Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 17:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. How's this? Blurring the highlights on the tail actually made it worse looking, so I left it without blurring, since it was already blurred some. 16:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I still don't think she looks pale brown. 02:59, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I didn't see your explanation above. Scratch that comment, then. 03:00, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I've uploaded it now, so comments about colors are okay again (I didn't like to see five different comments on the color when I'd already edited it and my computer was just hating me, it seemed kind of pointless...), do you still think it doesn't look pale? i think it's really pale now... 23:34, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Personally, I think it could be paler, but...

Blur the highlights. 23:37, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's great! The colour looks perfect =) Perhaps blur the earpink a little bit 23:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink and blur the highlight on the chest. This is really good :D 00:36, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnstripe (Q) ~ For Approval


I tried my best to copy the stripe style, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:00, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 22:03, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I darkend the shading, let me know it I overdid it or if it needs more, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:17, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

No, it looks fine. Blur it now, and make the earpink darker. 22:30, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the shading more and added highlights (let me know if you can't see them) Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:39, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Oops! I forgot to upload the pic first! Well then the stuff I said before, now. Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I can see them. Blur them a tad :3 22:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the highlights, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights on the tail and haunch could still be blurred. Also, the ear-pink could be darker. 23:12, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 23:16, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

She looks very yellow in this picture. Make her paler. 23:36, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I desaturated, let me know how it worked out, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 23:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Her eyes are a bit bright. It looks good now :) 23:50, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I didn't want to change the eyes too much cause that's the color on the warrior image to I darkened it a bit, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 00:03, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes a little paler, like on her warrior image. Willow heart  1231  00:40, September 14, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

They are the exact same color plus I don't see any difference (and how would I make them paler? Redo them with a differant color?) Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 01:14, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ohh. . . they seem lighten in her warrior image. Anyways, add shading to the neck area (see Goldenflower's image for help) and blur the face shading. 01:29, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

It might be because where I took the color from her stripes, or because her highligts are in differant spots (I'm getting on the neck shading) Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 01:44, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 01:47, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

this is good but i cant see the stripes very well Maplepool 02:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Their supposed to be barely visible, and pale. Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 02:24, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I know they're supposed to be barely visible, but maybe define them a tad more? They're very hard to see. 20:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Let me know if more is needed. Dappleclaw P-p-p-poker face 21:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you should make them more visible. 03:23, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dappleclaw P-p-p-poker face 21:59, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yep! Looking very good. But the eyes are kinda bright, so maybe make them (instead of all the same colour) kinda shaded? Idk how to describe it, but if you look at the eye chart....



It kinda explains itself XD 02:50, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I did that for Dawnstripe's eyes, but I can make them darker if you want. Dappleclaw Danger! Mousefur bites! 03:23, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I couldn't tell. lol so maybe, yeah. But the rest of the picture WHEW! I am blown away. Kinda jealous, actually haha 01:24, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! That means a lot to me! (btw do you still want me to darken the eyes?) Dappleclaw Danger! Mousefur bites! 01:43, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Personally, I think you should. Other users might disagree with me, though. Our User Page!

Don't necessarily DARKEN the eyes, just add a darker green pixel in the far corner and a few progressively lighter pixels in the closest corner (of the larger eye) 23:45, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, something seems fishy. Didn't Spiritcloud48 have an image like this up for approval, then it got declined because she was never seen as a queen or something like that? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Earth bender Tawny Style! 00:49, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Thanks for showing me Wildheart! I took out the gray pixels, and Tawnypelt, I just checked the page for characters needing pixels. Comments? Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 15:19, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

There are 3 white pixles one by the shoulder and two on each fromt paw -- 08:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I colored in the white spots, comments? Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 17:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading. 23:36, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the tail shading, honestly I'm finding it difficult without layers! I guess I'll have to do that for my next charart, comments? Dapple claw  02:49, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more stripes to the tail. 00:38, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dapple claw  00:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

A little more on the tail tip :) This is lovely Dapple! Sun X Moss Best Friends Forever! 01:04, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I added one, though it might not be too visible, comments? Dapple claw  01:49, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Owlstar (A) - For Approval
Eh...Comments? 23:49, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur and brighten the highlights. 01:23, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Sometimes, I feel like the world would be better without shading :/ Keep the critique coming, please! 01:37, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. There's too much shading on the back, not enoguh on the chest/legs/muzzle area. And the head shading is very. . . straight. (if that makes sense XD) 03:19, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Better? 04:05, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add highlights to the flank, shoulder, and face. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 21:06, September 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Highlights aren't necessary, but either darken the shading or add highlights. 21:21, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Blur the shading. -- 01:46, September 17, 2010 (UTC)




 * Reuploaded - Added Highlights. 04:05, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights a little bigger. Willow heart  1231  01:48, September 17, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Reuploaded - Is this okay? 03:59, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is he supposed to have a splotch on his leg? 14:16, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Whoops. Fixed it. 22:00, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there is some blurred lineart in these spots: The top of the closer front leg, the back of the neck, the bottom and top of the closer haunch, and the chest. Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:19, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink and make it bigger, so it is more noticible. 20:42, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Really? I don't see it. I think it may be your computer. If I get another person telling me it's blurred, I'll fix it. 20:44, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I see the blurred line art. Please fix it =) 21:57, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the line-art. 23:17, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

The line are still looks blurred on the back of the haunch, where the line is flat, and on the back of the neck, beneath the ear. Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 23:48, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Also darken the earpink 07:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think you missed my previous message, darken the ear-pink and make it bigger. 12:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I do not think that the ear-pink needs to be bigger, but make it more pink. 17:04, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Better? 20:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Umm... I think you made it gray-ish. It needs to be darker and a lot more pink. 02:11, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I. Hate. Ear. Pinks. For. Grey. Cats. 14:24, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

If you don't like earpink on a gray cat try a ginger one. I think the problem is the color you're using. It's purpleish. Try a more red shade. 20:52, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to keep bothering you, but I still can't see it very well. 21:19, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - As stated above, I. Hate. Ear. Pinks. For. Grey. Cats. 22:45, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks sort of purple, try to make it bright-pink. 02:51, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Don't make it a bright pink, maybe a coral color. Darken the shading. 14:40, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - StarClan, help me. 23:24, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and blur the highlights. 23:31, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - How's the ear pink? 01:30, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

The color looks better, just make it bigger. 03:20, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the ear pink. I'm very happy with the charat now. >.< 20:59, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

There is blurred line-art on his haunch and ear. 23:55, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the haunch. 00:39, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rabbitleap (A) - For Approval
It's very blah to me. What do you guys think? 01:22, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more triangular. 01:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Centre the haunch highlight, and blur the highlights. 03:21, September 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with blurring the highlights, but the haunch highlight is fine where it is. 21:00, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, blur the highlights and maybe darken and largen the ear pink? -- Fawny Keep on Smiling :D 16:16, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 21:13, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think he looks great! CBA? 18:18, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ear pink could use just a tad more blurring, but that's just me. 01:47, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ehh, yeah, the ear pink looks a bit odd. Perfect image, other than that ^_^ 07:29, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ear pink could be bigger as well. 12:02, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I can't change the ear pink without blurring the lineart, trust me, I tried. 12:43, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Okay then, nevermind. :) 02:09, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. 14:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? 21:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Great job! 23:29, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the earpink into more of a triangular position would make it look more natural. 00:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Pouncetail (Alt. A) - For Approval
This was all that I could find for him being listed as and Alt. as a She-cat. Comments? 11:01, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I just realized there was a dark patch of burn on the upper shoulder. Opps fixed it. XD 11:16, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

His alternate apprentice should be a brown tabby she-cat, not ginger and white. See his trivia section. 18:56, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Okay i'll get to work on it sorry about that. (: 10:59, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay thats better. Comments? 21:27, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, stripes, and add more stripes. 21:56, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and add more stripes. Make the stripes on his tail more noticeable. 02:26, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Comments? 11:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, maybe darken the shading and the ear pink. :) This is brilliant, keep it up! -- Fawny Keep on Smiling :D 16:15, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay so is this file named right? 22:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

There is a patch of gray behind the haunch, near the tail. Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:10, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Where? I dont see it? 22:14, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The file should be named Pouncetail.apprentice.alt.png. Also blur the stripes a tiny bit. 22:17, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry I think i accidentally put this comment in the wrong section! Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:29, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the stripes a tiny bit more(Sorry if this is bothering you, but it looks a bit, unnatural.) 12:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay so I blured the stripes as much as I could. I hope it was enough(= 17:06, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink as well. :) 20:34, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay I blured the stripes as much as I could and darkened the ear pink. 13:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look a bit bumpy or off-set. 17:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Could you please re-word that. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. 18:44, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Could you make the stripes on the upper half of the backside of the haunch have pointyer ends? Dappleclaw -_- 18:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. 02:07, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

There are 2 pale gray pixels on the back. I mean that the stripes are not even, like they're bumpy. :P 02:53, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay I tried as hard as I could to straiten the stripes but I had an issue w/ the coloring of the highlights. But I did as much as I could. And I fixed the gray lineart. (= 20:50, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ear-pink still needs to be made bigger. 21:12, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Oh, im so sorry Whitestorm I didnt see your comment! (= 23:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Blur the earpink more. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:19, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think it could still be bigger. XD 01:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm my picture didnt save thats the same one. O.o Fixing... 01:31, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry that I keep bugging you, but now it needs to be blurred. :) S  t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:49, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is lovely. Darken the ear pink and make it smaller. 23:28, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks great! The only thing I can see is to blur the ear pink. Good job! Holly dapple  15:48, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Thanks guys for the praises! 21:34, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the ear-pink and stripes more, still. 23:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, I suggest using the blur tool, but you probably know all that ;P 00:42, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar (Ki) - For Approval
Would Pouncetail above be declined because the artist did the wrong coloring? I'm not quite sure... but anyways, here is my second charart! I had some problems on the stripes. Comments will be welcome!! -- Willow heart  1231  21:44, September 15, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart

Ehh, they might be able to keep it up and just change the colours, or tehy might have to take it down. Not so sure :/ 22:09, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, Snooky (W) is withdrawn so this fine either way. 03:24, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

So... any comments anyone? Willow heart  1231  03:44, September 16, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Try darkening the shading a tad. Other than that, flawless. 04:45, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

There is gray areas outside of the lineart on his tail and cheeks. 20:50, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Willow heart  1231  21:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Blur the stripes a bit. -- 01:45, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

His tail looks connected to his back (The end of the tail.) Otherwise, this is lovely :3

Reuploaded. I lightened the tip of his tail barely, so it would look more distinct, and not part of the back. And, don't forget to sign! Willow heart  1231  20:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Is it just me or is there blurred line art where the tail and chest fur meet? Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yah, it;s blurred. I looked at it on Pixlr. Also, while on Pixlr, I saw ONE pixel on teh ear that wasn't blurred. But that's quite minor. :P 02:52, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll fix it when it have time, right now it is 6:40 in the morning for me! 97.118.199.158 12:41, September 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Sorry, that was me, forgot to sign in... 22:56, September 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I do belive there is some gray above his tail. Dappleclaw It all started with a big bang! 23:13, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Erased gray, fixed lineart. 00:35, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink lighter. Besides that, I absolutely love it! :) S  t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:48, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the paws and define the ear pink. 23:27, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Added shading to the paws, and lightened and defined ear pink. 21:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Make the earpink into more of a triangular position. This is great! 00:44, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Alt. Ki)-For Approval
Since Skipper's rogue pic is withdrawn, I'm entering another one. -- Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 18:34, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Add nose color and darken the entire image a tad. 19:13, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

This seems yellow to me, she is supposed to be pale ginger. 142.161.238.236 21:20, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

She looks very yellow. . . make her more gingery. And thicken and blur the shading. 21:53, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. -- 01:44, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make sure you color her nose.^_^ Midnitesky 19:17, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think it is a very pale pink. 22:44, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - If so, then make it darker, do everything listed above, and blur shading. Our User Page!

As pointed out above, she needs to be more ginger. Make her more like Goldenflower. -- 17:04, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 20:13, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

It's PRETTY much the same color, but on Goldenflower's image, it has deeper shading. Thicken and darken the shading. xD Also, the ear-pink is hot-pink, desaturate it. 17:02, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ahem...I believe I reserved it first? 22:15, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

It is true that you reserved it first, but you only get two weeks to work on it. If it is not posted by two weeks, I think someone else is free to take that character. Willow heart  1231  02:01, September 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Mistfire you may continue working on this as Silverdapple's time was up. 20:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken her pelt colour. Darken the shading and blur. Add some to the head, muzzle, chest. Blur the ear pink. 23:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

You need to add color to the nose. :3 Good job! Holly dapple  15:59, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the shading along the back thinner. 00:47, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar Rogue (alt)- For Approval
Constructments? I took the tail lineart from his rogue image, if that's okay. If not, I can change it. 21:36, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his legs. 23:59, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

There is color outside the lineart around his chest and legs. 02:16, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

★Re-Uploaded★ Done. Did I blur the leg shading enough? 06:41, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I can barely see the lineart. Lighten the whole thing. 17:38, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine. 17:41, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

darken the earpink 00:26, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

★Re-Uploaded★ Darkened ear pink. 21:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights. This is really quite lovely :3 00:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Snooky (W) - For Approval
I'm not so happy with this one...Comments?-- 06:17, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty, but blur the patches a ton, to make it look more natural. 06:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred patches. I think I made it worse, hm-- 06:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The patches on his other image aren't very blurred at all, really, and they're rounder, too. 07:25, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Its very pretty but i think it shold be consitant to the other images. -- 07:50, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I re did it. This time I didn't blur the patches as much. Comments?-- 16:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the white lighter, it looks more like pale grey. -- 16:49, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I like the spots anyways. xD I agree, make the white whiter, it looks silver to me. Triangulate the ear-pink a bit more. 17:00, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded changed ear pink and lightened white areas-- 17:18, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks silver to me 17:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded lightened it more. I think the shading might be making it look dark-- 17:54, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I thought, I kinda like it this way, it makes it look all mysterious. :P Blur the ear-pink. 17:56, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred ear pink-- 18:04, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Midriff shading looks too straight. Either blur it or change it. 19:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded how is it now?-- 20:18, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Way better, but a few of the patches are just a bit too big. 02:13, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Which ones? I think I might be able to make them smaller.- 03:09, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's hard to describe the location of them, but one on his upper back and two by his haunch. Also, the one around his eye and the one by his ear. They don't need to be much smaller, just a little. 21:28, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches again. 22:08, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

This sorta looks..cartoony? xD 00:16, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made patches smaller. If I blur it more it won't be defined enough. How is it cartoony?-- 00:25, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think she means because the patches seem fake, blur them some more. S t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:42, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

If I blur them more it will be too blurred-- 22:47, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink 23:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Night I think it might be the way you're shading and higlighting because the patches look like they can be blurred more. Maybe try smudging the edges a tiny bit. 23:37, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred the edges a bit. I didn't change the ear pink because I think it looks fine-- 23:52, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

If she blurs the patches very much more then it will appeared too blurred in comparison to his KP image. Blur the shading a bit. 04:44, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred shading-- 23:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little bit bigger. 00:49, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made ear pink bigger-- 01:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlight on the haunch. This is beautiful! 01:33, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Skipper (R) - For Approval
Since one image is declined, this should be under the limit. Comments? 15:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The under shading is almost to straight and just a little to dark. But it looks awsome other than that! (= 15:28, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Skipper is a ginger and white tom. I always imagine that like a full ginger cat with a white muzzle, paws or part of the tail. This is just a white cat with ginger patches. Does anyone else agree? Also, blur the ear pink-- 15:30, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well I guess yeah, but I do like that color ginger and like Night shine said where the white should be I agree. But Cherryfur this is really good art good work. (= 15:46, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Technically, a two-colored cat (i.e. ginger and white, brown and white, black and white, brown and black, etc.) can be one color pelt with the other color muzzle, paw, tail, etc., but it can also be with patches, so I think the patches are fine as they are. I think the ginger looks a tad bit brown, though, so saturatate the ginger some. The shading goes too much from dark gray to white without much transition between, so make the shading a bit smoother, and add some shading to the face as it looks kind of bland. The shading looks like a straight line across, make it look more to match the shape of the image and direction you want the light to come from. And one more thing: change the image name from Skipper.Rogue.png to Skipper.rogue.png. 15:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat, but for some reason, I always think of a ___ and white cat is usually white bellied or white pawed. xD Make the ear-pink bigger and blur. 16:58, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree as with Icethroat as well, but usually a patched cat has a few big patches or smaller patches only around their back and on their head with a coloured tail. That's just me, though. Also, his eyes are very dark. 18:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the eye color is fine, Crowfeather's eyes are darker. 18:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Before I started the image, I looked at Gorsepaw and Snooky's pages. They're described as one color and white and they've got patches, so I just assumed I could do the pic like that. But now that I think of it, I probably should have done it the other way. I'm not really sure anymore xP 19:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. 21:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm having trouble naming the image the right name (stupid computer). So.... I can't really fix that (I just realized it was named Skipper.rogue.png.png before. Now, it's still named Skipper.Rogue.png) :\ 22:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Open the link on the image and click edit page, put the Rename Tag of, and then an admin will move the page and rename it for you. :) Also, the shading still looks too much of an immediate transaction, keep the paws and bottom of the legs the dark shading color, but lighten the shading between the belly and middle of the legs some to have it not so immediate. (Does that make any sense? I can re-explain if needed.)  23:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink, but besides that I love it! 02:02, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

He's very. . . bright. The ginger should probably be a paler colour. 02:11, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink and desaturate the ginger, the splotch on his tail is red to me, too. 02:49, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the white transistion. Great job. 22:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, Whitestorm, Ice, and Shadowshine (I should have thanked you in the other response, but I forgot :P). Anyway, is this better? 23:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten and blur the tail patch. Blur the ear pink. 23:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? 23:26, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller, it's really big. 03:18, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Done. Anything else? 20:09, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

There is some blurred line-art around the legs, and the ear. 20:18, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is there anything else? 20:33, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate some of the really dark patches, because they're kind of reddish. Oh, and you blurred the lineart a little bit on the tip of the tail. 23:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpen and darken the patches and make the ear pink darker. 00:50, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dustpelt (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well he was called a lightbrown warrior before so here he is. Comments? 20:29, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink brighter, and more noticable. 21:07, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

The reference on his page that says he's light brown looks a little sketchy... It's not *'d and the citation is worded wierdly. If anyone has whatever book it says he's brown is (It's either TDH or ADP, I'm too lazy to check), could you look on page 211 to see if it's a reliable citatation? 21:19, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I checked before I made it. It's relieable. 21:24, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt colour is kinda...of, to me. I think you should darken it a bit. Other than that, lovely. 22:03, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink just a bit. Looks nice! Echo Leaf-fall.. 22:33, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten it a bit. 00:11, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - He doesn't look light brown...I think you should lighten it some. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I lightened the earpink but i didn't change the pelt color. How someone views light brown depends on how they view brown. It's light brown to from my prespective. 20:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the muzzle shading. 23:21, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ice I don't shade the muzle. 23:24, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Minimize the earpink and blur the haunch higlights. 00:57, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. A) - For Approval
Yay! My first charart (finally) for PCA. Comments? <font color="#14e168">ⓔⓒⓗⓞ I'm raisin the bar, I shoot for the moon, but I'm too busy gazin at stars.. 21:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink and shading need to be blurred Dappleclaw It all started with a big bang! 21:46, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent job. Blur the shading and darken it. I would say to add a highlight to the chest, but you don't have to. Darken the ear pink and blur. 22:01, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Ear pink darker and blurred, the shading is a tad darker and more blurred as well. (didnt add a highlight to the chest. i didn't feel the need) Echo Leaf-fall.. 22:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little bit more, and blurr the ear pink a little. 22:56, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the back, and a bit on the haunch. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:30, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and thicken it. Blur the ear-pink and make it a bit lighter. 00:10, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Highlights are optional. Blur the shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:27, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. Also, blur the shading, and maybe thicken it on the back? 01:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

He wasn't seen gray as an apprentice, was he? The citation on his page only mentions it when he was a kit. Please try and find one from later on or this will be declined =) Forgive me if he was; I'm being spacey :/ 02:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oblivion~ it says on his page that he was mistakenly described as gray near the end of Twilight.. he was an apprentice by then. Echo Leaf-fall.. 23:56, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thickened and darkened shading, blurred. Made earpink larger, a tad lighter, and blurred. What parts in general should be darker/lighter/blurred? Echo Leaf-fall.. 00:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and add some shading to the head. This is great for your first charart. -- 00:56, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I would still blur the ear pink, and move it a little higher, it is about to touch the lineart. 03:13, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the haunch. 00:54, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

If all of Bichfall's other images arelonghaired shouldn't this one be too, for consistency? 01:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Leopardstar (Alt. D)~For Approval
Ta da! fourth charart. A mottled cat was hard to do. 22:32, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

When was Leopardstar a brown mottled cat? I checked her page and didn't see it, though, I'm really bad at looking. XD 22:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, Frostheart, it's in the trivia. The alternate stuff's always in the trivia. Echo Leaf-fall.. 22:40, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ya, i just added that now. I meant to do it sooner, but i forgot, but it's legit :) 22:41, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Great job. Make the mottles...more visible. Blur and darken the ear pink and darken the head and muzzle shading. 00:25, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- but the uploaders not working, so will try again another time 00:38, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Don't darken the ear-pink too much though. S t  o  r  m  1  7 Birthday Time!  00:49, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Where's the light coming from? If it's coming from the top, add shading to the front of the haunch, and if it's coming from the front, lighten up the chest. Dapple claw  02:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Changed the ear pink a bit, and lightened the chest shading. What next? 00:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is really well done :) Make the ear pink bigger, and perhaps define the mottles on the chest a bit. -- 00:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded 01:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the mottles a bit more round and bigger. 02:23, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I personally like how the mottles look, and if i make them any bigger they all melt together and it looks like a badly shaded cat. I'd prefer to leave them the way they are. 02:35, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the mid-riff shading. 00:51, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Teller of the Pointed Stones (Alt. H)- For Approval
My first charart! 22:36, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Add ear-pink. Also, blur the shading and highlights. 22:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add eye shading, or make them brighter, make the herbs different colours to. It's very nice for a first charart! 22:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the herbs a bit brighter and add shading to it. 23:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading. 23:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

For some reason it won't show the updated version :( 23:57, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Just upload it later or tomorrow. 00:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, darken and blur the stripes and add shading to the tail, add ear pink, fix the blurred lineart on the body and tail. 00:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree, nice for a first charart, but...should he have mud stripes? I'm not sure... Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

The healer never leaves the cave, so it doesn't seem like he'd need them, but i'm not sure 00:46, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

No, he wouldn't have mud stripes. Wow, this is good for your first! Blur the shading in the haunch, add shading to the herbs and add some ear pink. Sunleap 01:06, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think he should have the stripes. They are on his alternate image! Blur the shading and might I suggest making the eyes a little more amber? They look almost brown now. 12:12, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Starlingflight; his healer image has mud, so this one should too, for consistency. Blur the shading and highlights a ton, and add earpink. 19:12, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Should I do the white muzzle too? 22:11, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about the white muzzle, but blur the highlights. 22:36, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I still have work to do on it 23:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger. 00:23, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and blur the highlights on the haunch. 00:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rock Beneath Still Water (Alt. R) ~ For Approval
With an image being withdrawn and one being declined, this should be exactly 35 if I counted right (and i count things twice....sometimes) This is also officially my 2 and a half charart since Frostheart♥ has taken over my Rockshade charart. (wow, after I said I would never do a black cat again, look at my work!) So...Comments?

Darken the gray and make the mud more brown. xD Also make the ear-pink pinker. Thicken the shading. 01:21, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nice! Make the earpink pinker, it looks white right now. 01:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make his tail shorter. Darken the ear pink. 02:19, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ear-pink needs to be darker and smaller. Also, maybe the mud be lighter? I can't really see it. 02:38, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

And blurred. Blur the shading, add it on the tail and back. 11:20, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Definitely shorten the tail. It does look quite stumpy! XD 11:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

GEEZ slow down, I'm only one person. I'll get this taken care of ASAP Earth  bender Tawny Style! 22:28, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Comments? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:48, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, very nice =) Lighten the streaks a little bit more, and maybe add one more on the chest. 22:58, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you could add mud to the legs? Just a suggestion. Dapple claw  23:35, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the mud streaks and the highlights. In Europe black cats are lucky Tawny ;P 00:53, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

New Guidelines for Commenting
Hey guys. This is what popped into my mind just by glancing at one of the pending approval sections.


 * Do not post just to restate a comment. This creates clutter and long, long sections.
 * Compliments are great, but they cause clutter. Do not post just to say, "Great job!"
 * Exception:If there have been no constructive comments for 24 hours, it is permitted to say, "I see nothing wrong, wonderful job."


 * Do not post conversational comments; that is, comments with no constructive merit. This is not a chatting page, this is for solid, constructive criticism.
 * The artist is entitled to his/her opinion as well as others, and well-worded, polite debates are permitted. This may be about color, markings, or the formation/texture of the image.

Those are the immediate bullets that jumped into my head. If any of you disagree or have more ideas, please post here. I hope we all want to be operating at top efficiency. -- 23:22, September 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * These all look pretty good to me, if I think of anything else I'll let you know. 13:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. 19:59, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me as well. 22:21, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. Willow heart  1231  22:29, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Considering the mega cat fight I just archived, I had better put up some tenants on behavior during discussion as well. I hope all of you who are being silent really have no ideas and aren't just ignoring this post. -- 04:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

...**sheepishly** Sorry about the catfight, on my behalf, at least. I got a little worked up over just about nothing. In regards to the future as well as the recent past, I think that some behavior guidelines might be a good idea. And the silence on my part was, yes, no ideas =) 10:53, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe an additional "Cat Fight" policy should be put into place. Something like "Anytime a discussion for an image turns into that argument between two or more people that image is immediately declined and the discussion is archived. The image may not be resubmitted for a week." I say two people because that way someone who wants to black-ball an image can't have it done by making one aggressive comment. I also think that aggressive/combative behavior in these discussions should result in an automatic 24-hour ban against the users. The phase "Personal attack" comes to mind in dealing with that. But I'm harsh and I don't have time to mediate conflicts much ;) so I'll leave that decision to you. 13:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I was just being silent because I didn't have anything specific to say, but I agree with some sort of behavior guidelines, as sometimes things get out of hand that shouldn't really be a problem in the first place. I would like to say thank you, too, because it's bothered me for some time now when I look at a page and there's been five different people with the same comments reworded (or sometimes said exactly the same). I think these commenting guidelines are excellent. :) 15:33, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I sort of agree with your "Cat fight" policy, Kitsufox, but I don't think that the image should be declined, because the argument might not be the image creator's fault, so it wouldn't really be fair to the user if their image was just declined because two other people argued about it. I do agree with the 24-hour ban on any user that makes an aggressive/combative comment, though. But that's just my opinion. 16:46, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Part of my theory on declining the image automatically would be to discourage all non-constructive negative comments. It does need some improvement, though. Such as removal from the project if you're involved in X number of conflicts within a certain time period. Part of the "automatic image decline" part of my idea is that it will turn people who start these fights into exiles that others ignore because they've been interfering with progress. It should, theoretically, also discourage response to combative comments because people wouldn't want to get caught up in a fight-ending decline/archive action. Sure, the artist might not be involved in the fight, but frankly, I don't care ;) I'm more concerned with making fighting so ludicrously undesirable that anyone willing to undertake it will get treated like a poo on the sidewalk that no-one wants to have anything to do with. Theoretically, with the 24-hour Ban and the "fighting gets the image declined", It shouldn't happen. Because people who see aggressive/combative comments should feel the need to do nothing but inform a Sysop rather than respond. And if no-one responds it doesn't become a fight. As a sort of compromise thought, though... Perhaps automatic decline could be limited to those conflicts in which the artist is involved. 16:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry for that 'catfight'. I didn't think I was coming off so rude, I'd say. I was just saying my opinion. :P And as for the punishments, maybe a warning first? 16:57, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. This all looks to me 17:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ha ha, a poo on the sidewalk. I agree, these look fine as long as the image doesn't get declined when the artist isn't involved. Yes, perhaps a warning first, unless it's something uber bad. 18:25, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * If there is a fight going on on another artist's image, those comments could be romoved or archived, so that the poor artist doesn't suffer. 18:56, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I say let all involved suffer. If the artist's picture started it, they're a part of it. 12:49, September 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with what you're saying, Kitsufox, and I think that maybe it should be automatically declined if the artist is involved in the conflict, instead of automatic decline when two other people argue on the image, because then someone could just argue on an image because they want it declined. Although I doubt many people would do that to someone. As I said before, I sort of agree with your idea, mostly because it will encourage others not to fight, or else the image will be declined and they would be punished. It would limit fighting in the project, so I agree with this idea. 19:48, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * The 24-hour block for comments of an aggressive/combative nature needs to be layered with the end of the discussion for fighting thing and a boot from the project for continuous fighting. An ignored aggressive comment wouldn't end it, only one that someone responded to. 12:49, September 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I definitely agree with there being a warning first. Besides that, it sounds good. 01:52, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Banning idea's good, but not the image, unless the artist is at fault. And maybe a warning for 1st and 2nd time offenders, then a ban? And maybe after a certain number of times, you're removed from the project? Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 01:59, September 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Such behavior isn't tolerated elsewhere on the wiki. Why would it be tolerated here? We already give 1-2 warnings on the main wiki, here we're talking about somewhere that seems to need tighter rules. That says to me a zero tolerance policy. It's only a 24-hour ban that I suggested. Just enough time for someone to think about what they've done, and what they should do differently in the future. 12:45, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ban is perfectly reasonably, but what if the argument isn't at all the artist's fault? It seems unfair to them to decline their image, just because some other people are arguing underneath it. And if it was sparked by the artist's charart, how were they supposed to know that it would happen? Just my opinion. Think about it. 22:54, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. **reasonable, not reasonably =P 22:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Longtail Alt.
Should Longtail have an alt. warrior image since it was reveled that he was silver, or was that something due to age? This probably falls under the category of Tweak Week, but I just wanted to ask. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 14:10, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

He was described as silver in the original series, so it wasn't due to age. It's also the only citation for his color other than being pale, so there isn't really any need for him to have a alt charart. -- 16:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Joining
Hello, I am interested in joining, so I would like to know if I can. Thank you, Wolfwhisker 23:20, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Of course you can join! A senior warrior will add you soon! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:32, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'll add you in now, Wolfwhisker. May I suggest looking at the basic guidelines and the apprentice tutorial? Thank you for your interest in joining! 19:19, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mothpelt
I would like to do Mothpelt's leader image... so I would like to reserve it. Sunleap 00:38, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

You can't do it, sorry. I had it for approval, but no one can do it before they decide weather he gets a leader image or not. 01:07, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Why is the text so small? Anyway, one his page it said he became leader. That means he needs a leader image- I have it drawn and everything. Sunleap 01:09, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think he needs a leader image. He only 'lead' his clan to the river, but nothing else, really. And if he does get an image, Iceheart will be the one doing it, probably. 01:19, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

@Sunleap - There was a glitch in coding. 02:00, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

So have i Sunleap, but this has already been discussed and decided, more or less. Leader or not, he doesn't get an image for now. 03:57, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Request for doing Pinepaw when she becomes a warrior
Can I do Pinepaw later in the books when she becomes a warrior?

First of all, this is a talk page, so please remember to sign with ~. As for Pinepaw, you'll have to wait until she actually becomes a warrior to reserve her, sorry. 21:07, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

And you don't ask to reserve here, you just reserve it if nobody has already. =) 21:51, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I reserved Sedgewhisker Alternate Kit. But what does her alternate image look like? ~Moonlight~ 20:54, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Are you supposed to do alternate images if it is a gender change? Or if it is like a pelt color change? Either way, it is the same pelt just different gender. 00:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Pebbleheart
I would like to reserve doing Pebbleheart's warrior image. Sunleap 23:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

You don't ask to reserve images here, if nobody has already, you simply reserve it. 23:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if this is a stupid question... but how do I do that? Sunleap 23:16, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

You go to the main page and scroll down until you see a blue box, find your name and reserve your charart. 23:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

My name isn't on there! :/ Sunleap 23:42, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Then add it? xD 23:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I cant :( Sunleap 23:47, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, I mean Pebbleheart's warrior image. Sunleap 00:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Pebbleheart's warrior image already up for approval? 01:59, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. @ Sunleap- you can choose a charart from this page if no one already has it. 02:19, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

How come Plumwillow as a kit isn't on there? And Pebbleheart's warrior image was reserved on August sixth, and still isn't for approval. That's over two weeks. Sunleap 23:31, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, it's for approval, my bad. :( . Oh, my name isn't on the reservation table thingy. Sunleap 23:37, September 22, 2010 (UTC)