Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. G B 57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. G B 57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. G B 57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. G B 57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've improved her. How is she? G B 57 21:56, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Great! I don't see anything wrong :D. You did a pretty nice job. Sparrowsong 18:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be less circular and the shading needs to be darkened. --Hallow's Eve 09 21:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Blackclaw. Also, maybe try blurring the stomach-patch just a tad more. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Needs it's shading thickened immensely and blended. Ear pink could be toned down, but it mostly needs blurred some. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better, but go back, it looks like you blurred the line art or added black marks.Minnowclaw 12:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be more... intense Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the lineart. But Sandy, i don't get what you mean by "intense" <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Sandy, but I think she meant that it needs to be darker. (Sandy corect me if I'm wrong.)Minnowclaw 14:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well yes, that is kind of what I mean. It needs to be not just darker but a little thicker and blur it really well so it actually looks like shadows on his pelt. Some good examples of how the shading needs to look are Shadepelt and Rushtail's image which is currently up for approval. (I can't think of any more off the top of my head, sorry) It's not exactly just darker; it needs to look like a part of the pelt. I really hope that made some sense. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Done. I tried to fix it... <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 13:30, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

There should be more shading on the legs, and you might want to add a tiny highlight to the top of the herbs. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:24, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Try blurring the shading, and also, finish coloring in the far ear. After that, and doing what the above comments say, I'd think you're good to go. =) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

This has been up for a week now. Morningleaf please work on this or it will be declinded and we can't have something that is sooooo good and close to being done go to waste.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:48, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! I have, like lots of other ppl, been buried alive in homework. I'll go work on it now. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? I added shading to the legs, fixed the ear, and blurred the shading more. Can someone please tell me how to do highlights? I don't know. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:11, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

You can add highlights with the doged tool.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:12, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I added the highlight. Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 00:05, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot; right now it's very bumpy and uneven. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:29, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Whiteclaw (W) - For Approval
this is Whiteclaw. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:29, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

She is way too dark.Minnowclaw 14:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok hehe he is way to dark XD so make he light. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 14:56, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

ok hope this is ok. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:13, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

The eye needs fixed... Ice throat  21  21:44, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to specify on how to fix the eye, as well as mention a couple of other things, so, I'll say them now. The ear pink needs to be more triangular along with the shape of the ear, blurred some more, and also needs to be more of a reddish color rather than a pink color. And for the eye, go to for a diagram of how to fix the eye. Also, the transition between black and white with the paw needs blurred some more, and add some shading on the hind leg. And maybe run the dodge tool over the tail a couple of times, so it's not too much darker than the color of about the middle of the shading. (Sorry, I know it's a lot, and if I didn't explain enough please say so!) Ice  throat  21  23:58, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK....done. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:11, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reddish, not purplish. Go to the red section, not up by where the purple and hot pink section is. Also make it a little fuller and less slanted. -- Bramble -san  02:22, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

well it's red I don't like red ear...did I miss things? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:40, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

The lineart at the bottom of the right forepaw looks thin compared to the rest of the charart. Can you thicken it? I think you erased some of it while you were coloring it in. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 21:31, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

There needs to be a lot more shading; I can barely see any. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:27, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

I can see some shading, but it's been blended in a lot. Add some more where it's needed, and where you already have shading, sharpen it a little, make it stand out a teeny bit more. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 21:58, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

ok is this better? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:58, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

The shading looks fine to me. You need to blur the ear pink and line where the white forepaw joins the black fur though. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:02, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

can't say this is better but..done. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:40, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks too dark of a hot pinkish color rather than a reddish color. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:13, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I've blured it a bit more as well. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:07, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink even more and add some shading on the white paw; I can't see any. Also, the lineart on the paw still needs to be fixed, as Rainwhisker said earlier. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:32, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

done. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:47, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

He's awesome. Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:09, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Crowfeather (App) - For Approval
Hereeeeeeeeeeeeee's Crowfeather as that annoying little apprentice when we first met him. Personally I loved his snobbish personality ^_^ and spunk. You know he was determined to do anything.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:09, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I don't see anything wrong. Great job! :) -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 20:47, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Same here, and I completely agree with you about Crowpaw! He's awesome! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 16:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Shimmerpool! Darken the ear pink to a more reddish color, blur the highlights some more, and it should be ready! And I agree with you and Stealthfire, Crowpaw's awesome! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:01, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks gray. Try making it more pink.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:09, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Question =/ with the new rule, should I still be doing this pic or not?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 01:10, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

It's been 10 days...I'm not sure, but as long as you work on it and post something within the next couple of days it should be fine. (I think.) -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:15, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Shimmer: this was put up before the rule and you've had him on your reserved images before the new rule was made so you can finish him and then work only on current ranks. I think his ear pink needs to be darker and the shading/pelt is smeary, so a bit of blending would probably fix it. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:29, October 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok finally got him up inbetween practice and projects. How's the ear now?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 00:36, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Much better. This is very good Simmerpool! Great job.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe blur the ear pink even a bit more than that. Otherwise, this looks great! -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:33, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Tadpole (Ki) - for approval
= Well, here it is. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:49, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

So cute! Just darken the shading a little, and maybe make the nose a bit duller; right now it's bright pink. -- ♫ Ec ho mi st <font color="Teal">Talk/<font color="Indigo">Contribs 22:37, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink our left is good, but make the right one the same color.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:05, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Darkened Shading, fixed ear pink. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 19:35, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The nose pink is too bright right now. Try dulling it down a bit.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:47, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:28, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

The only problem I can see is that the shading is barely visible, especially along the left of the image, the legs and the neck. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:30, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Cora (R) - Widthdrawn
Here she is? Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 01:57, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

This is very nice, Hawkfire! Although, you could thicken and darken the shading; I can barely see it. Also, the ear pink is much too bright for a black cat and could be blurred some more. It looks great, otherwise! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 19:49, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

This has been up for more than a week, please work on this or it will be taken down.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:55, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I don't have time to work on this. Withdrawing. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 21:41, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that Hawky.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 21:49, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For approval


(M) - Not much to say about these. First blank I've made where you can see both sides of the face and such, and probably the last blank I'll do for a long time. Will make a colored version over the weekend. (Maybe.) Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute. But their bellies and legs look.. weird. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

A few things though...What i think could be improved  How I would do it..... Feel free to remove this or disregard it if i'm wrong, but its lineart looks a bit odd only in this area. Summary of it: The arm has odd, unnecicary lines, the showing hind leg goes a bit up, or thick, the stomach area is oddly shaped, and the eye is a bit odd... But its fabulous in the rest.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 00:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks a little disproportionate--AutumnSky 02:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made a example and changed up the lineart a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just to let everyone know, I'm still working on these. Please don't decline. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I really wanna see these improved, so if you need help re-lining them, i made this. And a colored version of my cat, speedy.The colored version looks terrible because i didnt shade it. Dont criticize it...<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Molepelt - Up for Approval again
Well, I'm sorry everybody. I was in hospital, I was sick, and discharged just yesterday. So, here is Molepelt again.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:49, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

There's a couple of pixels on the face that should be dark-gray like the fur instead of green, and shading is too dark. It needs to have different colors along the way from the outside to the inside of the cat. Black, really dark gray, dark gray, fur color, and then blend, or something along those lines. Right now the shading is really messy, and too dark on the outside of the shading. Also, I hope you're feeling better now. We're glad to have you back. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:41, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Hussar - For approval
Place the ear pink in the center of the ear, so it's not touching the side, and blur it, taking care not to hit the lineart. The shading is much too thick; blur its transition. Also add shading on the legs; blur as well. Put a white highlight in the eye; you can look at Moss's example image: to see how to do the eyes. Other than that, not bad for your first go. -- Bramble -san  22:23, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: --Evanphoto 00:53, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Evanphoto! I'm so happy about the talent my new apprentice has! Try blending all of the pelt a little more and add some shading on his right rear leg.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:44, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--Evanphoto 10:26, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Very good Evanphoto. I love him.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:11, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Wait, how does a pictue get approved?--Evanphoto 11:08, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

This looks great Evanphoto! An image is approved when either Bramble, myself or another senior warrior does so. A 24 hour call will be put out and if theer have bene no comments for improvement in that time then the iamge will be approved, added to the article and approved archives, and the text archived also. Please note that 24 hours is not the exact time in which it will be approved, it is a rough guide to give people a chance to comment. Sometimes it may be longer, sometimes (though rarely) slightly shorter due to the times different senior warriors get online.

This image looks good to me; Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:33, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

He's supposed to have a scar on his side; I can tell that it's there, but it's a very light grayish-pink color and practically unnoticeable. Make it more of a darker, brighter pink (but not too bright), so that it really looks like a scar. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 23:06, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--Evanphoto 22:02, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The scar needs to be much brighter. Look at Ratscar for reference. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:39, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--Evanphoto 11:14, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Much better. Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:34, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Gorsestar (L) - For Approval
Okay, my first charart. Sorry if i'm doing something wrong. X3 And perhaps I shouldn't have started with a Tabby... :/ Okay, I'm ready for the critique! (And yes, sorry but I couldn't figure out how to get the background transparent. XP) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 00:48, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * WOW I like this XD the left ear pink is on the line art a bit. and the left leg at the top the dark bit is going out of the line art an bit. and with the head you see the line like a bowl (sort of) try and put a bit of shading under it. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:04, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. And is it just me, or does my attempt at shading resemble a collar? XD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:30, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

lol yeah maybe a bit try looking at Vinestar. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:33, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:40, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

nice one more thing on the new bit on the left it's gone over the line art Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:42, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:55, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is impressive for your first Charart, Shigura! Just a few things - first of all, the ear pink is a little too circular (it should be more triangular-shaped, and kept inside the ear lineart). The nose should be colored in pink (for a grey cat, it should be a dull grayish-pink color). The tabby markings should be thinner (maybe make them with a size 3 brush), there should be a lot more of them, and they should be blurred into the pelt just a bit. Lastly, darken the shading a bit, especially on the head to make it look more 3-dimensional. As for the transparent background, I did it for you (I hope you don't mind). -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:34, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I couldn't get the thick stripes off Gorsestar without making him look dumb, so I started again with the Gorsestar picture I had with just the shading. I tried doing stripes like the one on the Birchstar picture. Are they any good? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 20:22, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I forgot to do the nose. Silly me. XD Any other critique besides the fact the nose is white? XDD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 20:26, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry for triple-posting, but I re-uploaded, this time with the nose colored in. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 22:54, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

No, good job Shigura!-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Umm.. did I upload it wrong? For some reason the image keeps reverting back to the white-nosed picture! Or is it just me? D: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 20:00, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

That's only in the boxes of all the previous images. If you look at the actual image up top, not in the boxes, you should see the updated image. I've wondered about that, too, but I know that the uploaded image is visible on the top, the one the full size and not in the box. For the actual image, it looks lovely, but you might want to add some shading between the two ears on the head. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:28, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any more critique? :3 <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 00:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Add some shading on the left (our left, Gorsestar's right) side of the head, like you did on the other side. Otherwise, great job! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:47, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 00:59, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Could you make the nose a bit more of a grayish-pink? It looks a bit redish Ashshadow 22:35, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 23:27, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

It's pretty good, but the ear pink looks too purple and the stripes need to be blurred a bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:black; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;"> Vampiresong vants to suck your blood! |undefined 21:44, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks more purple than pink. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:39, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I just realized that Sparrowsong said that the ear pink looked purple, and then I say it again...sorry, I wasn't paying attention like I should have been. Also, the tail-tip looks a bit strange... -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:10, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

On many gray cats, the noses are kind of a dark, rosy color. Could you make the nose color a bit more like that? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:38, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, normally I would have this done, but I'm really sick. ;_; Please don't decline this, and Echo; I'm really sorry I haven't gotten that Grey She-cat with the amber eyes fixed yet.I'll have this done by the end of the week. Or I'll try to.. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 12:53, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Aw, sorry to hear that, Shigura. :( Hope you get better soon. And don't worry about the gray she-cat with amber eyes, it's not like it's timed or anything :). -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:11, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Patchpelt (E) - For Approval
This has got to be my worst two-colored cat...Mousepaw was much better. I tried to fix the shading between the black and white, but it looks really messy...any sugestions? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:20, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

You may want to change the ear pink to less of a hot-pink. More like a natural pink.Other than that, it's beautiful!-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 14:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I love the dodge tool. It made making the ear pink lighter much easier. :) So, anything else? How's it look now? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 15:27, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Darken all the shading and make the ear pink a little more natural.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:50, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened and thickened the shading. I tried to blur the shading, but it doesn't look too well...suggestions? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:33, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Well? I know that you said to darken the shading, Minnowclaw, but now it looks too dark. Everyone: do you think I should lighten the shading some? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:24, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Well, ya, your right. Can we get someone else in here for their opinion?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 00:59, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I think you should lighten the shading... but just slighly. Also, you should probabaly try to blur the black spot on Patchpelt's chest. Also, I see a little black 'c' near that spot. Is that supposed to be there, or is it not? o.o <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 01:03, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

The "c" is part of the lineart. And for lightening the shading, I'll get to it after school tomorrow, hopefully. I have a busy night tomorrow, so...but I should be able to get to it tomorrow or the day after. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:01, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Lightened the shading, and now I've got to go to band rehersal. Any correctionts that need made I'll do once I get back. Got to go! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:26, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

He looks good, but the ear pink is too bright.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 00:49, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

When the ear pink was darker, you said it looked too unnatural. So, should I darken it or leave it as it is? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:25, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Leave the ear as it is. The only other thing I see is that some of the patches look very unatural; they're too square (if that's the right word) - try making them a little more rounded and perhaps vary the sizes a little more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest

Sorry Icethroat, I'm not good with my words. Do as Sandy says.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:53, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I've tried to fix it, but it doesn't look any better... -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:29, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I think he looks great. :) Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:12, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Reedwhisker (W) for approval
Not much to say. comments? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:39, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

You may want to blur the shading alot, and lighten the black just barely.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 13:28, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, blend the shading, and also, his eyes are green. Not blue. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 13:45, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make the shading blured and bigger.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:55, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading and ear pink, but the reason why I didn't change the eye color is because his discribtion said blue and I don't remember reading that he had green. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:17, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is fine now, but you need to make the shading thicker.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:47, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Done. What else? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 21:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Nothing that I can see, good job Spottedwing.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:02, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few, if slightly picky things. Firstly, the shading could be thickened a little more as it's hugging the lineart very closely at present and could look more like shadows if it was slightly thicker. Secondly, there doesn't need to be shading on the top of the muzzle. The ear pink is also quite large and needs to be smaller for a black cat. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Darn, I can never see something like that :(-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Seriously Minnow, don't worry. I've lost track of the number of times i've put out the 24 hours and about 8 people have then flooded the image with improvements ^_^ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:03, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy, that helpped a lot. <(^-^)> HUGS!-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 22:33, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink still needs to be fixed, as Sandy said above. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:40, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Kit-Mother Blanks ~ For Approval


How do you like my suckish artwork? xD Gawd, I need a tablet... The example is better than the blanks: <BR> Comment/Suggestios? (Suggestions OTHER than leaving the drawing to experts? xD)-- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh..my..staclan..THIS IS SO CUTE! I love the way she's staring at you like "I'm not fat!" The only thing I could say is that the head looks, a bit small-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I'll make the head a little bit bigger. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:26, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Heads are bigger by a tad. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

it look a bit odd..what is she doing? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if Apprentices are allowed to critique, and I love the blanks, but there are a few spots that look a bit... out of place. XD The paw near the Kit-Mother's head looks a bit flat, and the tails could be a smidge wider, but that's all I see. (: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 21:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Everyone's aloud to critique. That's part of the learning experience, being able to say what's wrong with a picture. :) Mumble: I agree with Shigura, the paw looks flat, and the tail could be a small bit wider. And also, the tail on the shorthair could maybe brought to the left a little bit, so the bottom of the lineart on the tail is at the same curve as the bottom lineart of the tail on the longhair, giving a curve that makes it more natural. Otherwise, great job, Mumble! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but the muzzle is a little thick, that shouldn't be too hard, methinks. You put queen blanks up a while ago, right? You've really improved ^^.-- Darkhallows 07:34, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The neck looks fat.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darkhollows: Yes, I did. :) I think I tryed a freindly blanks war with melon! xD Thank you! ^-^<BR> Bramble: She's laying down while looking at you. :P Yeah, not very well-thought-out position...<BR> Everyone who offered suggestions: I'll do that. How would I make the paw look less flat? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the paw more curved, like she's trying to swat the air? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 18:14, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - The tip of the short haired looks pointy. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 11:42, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Icewing(W) For approval
The first white cat I've had up for approval...Anything to fix?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 15:33, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

This is wonderful, Bracken! But, she looks a bit bluish. Make the shading more of a pale gray. Great job, though! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Bracken! But I have to agree with Hawktalon, the image looks more blue than white. And also, the ear pink needs to be more in the middle of the ear rather than on the edge of the ear like it is now. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:04, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Aren't we supposed to wait until TFA comes out before we make the TFA characters? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 18:12, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sorry, Bracken. Otherwise, Foxleap wouldn't have had to be withdrawn. Sorry, Bracken. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:19, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

wait, before I withdraw this, are there any other white she-cat warriors?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:58, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

here's Icewing now--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 19:00, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink and bluish-color still need fixed. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:11, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Much better! There's some blurred lineart on one of the front legs, though. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

There's also a line of white pixels on the top of the back leg's lineart. :) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 20:57, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Stonestream (E) for approval
My first elder. Comments? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 23:41, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading thicker and blur it. Also, make the ear pink redder and blur it more.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 00:27, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

He's very good! But he seems dull and boring. Try adding some highlights, and blur the shading a little more. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 00:29, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Made the ear pink more red and thickened the shading --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 01:07, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The shading is great now, but you need to make the ear pink in more and well, less bright pinkish. (Sorry, I can't think at the moment).-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:50, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the ear pink. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 22:37, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading even more than that. It needs to look like actual shading, as opposed to a shadow on the edge of the lineart. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:42, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Thunder (Loner) - For Approval
Meh. Nothing much to say, except that he's my first loner. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:41, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

The ear should probably be darkened a little, and the eye... it looks a bit cartoony, as if it were just black and white. But that's all I see. It's really good. <3 <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 20:55, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Shigura! Better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:09, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

The shading is bothering me a bit, try blending it more.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 21:41, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I've blurred it as much as I possibly can. I'm not sure if the smudge tool would work better, either. Do you know any other helpful tools? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:52, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

No, well, it's just me who thinks that, so lets leave it like it is unless someone has an idea.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:07, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Well, if it looks weird to one person, it may look weird to another. We'll have to wait and see. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:19, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Minnowclaw; the shading should be blended more. Also try thickening it, just a tad. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 00:22, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little bright, and I also agree that the shading should be blurred. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:21, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Weedwhisker - For approval


.<span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 20:40, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

This is very good, but try to make the dots more irregular and different shapes and sizes.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 21:40, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedleaf (MCA)- For approval
I made this by accident while trying to make two of my characters, soo.. I'm kina going to use this with a different eye color a bit in an Rp...Hope you dont mand. Comments?--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 21:09, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

This is good but you used the regular apprentice blank Ashshadow 21:19, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Darn! I just relized that. Here, lemme change that.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 21:29, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Grayravenpaw had this researved before you did. But before you withdraw it, I suggest changing it into another tortoiseshell apprentice, like Dappletail. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

This is great, but we said that we would only do curent pictures. Are there any other cats you make her?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 21:38, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I, I really don't know. When did we decide to do only current characters?<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 21:42, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I thought we were doing imageless characters. Ashshadow 21:46, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

My fault, I didn't announce the decision we made. Keep this up; it's good, but after it's approved then do imageless characters, as Ashshadow says. Spottedleaf already has a picture. I believe you misunderstood; you can do whatever character you like, but in the current rank they are in, and only if they don't have a picture. Follow me? -- Bramble -san  22:07, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I follow, but someone said G.R.paw reserved spottedleaf as a mca. And I did all of this work, and blah. Who else can this be?<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 23:31, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Well, why don't you talk to Lightning (G.r.paw) and ask if he'd mind you doing this image? It's worth a try and that reservation has bene up for a lot longer than two weeks (even counting his illness recently) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:27, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Shadowedheart! I just read my coment over and it was SO unclear. My bad!-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:49, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Fuzzypelt- for approval
Oh my, his name -shudders-.-- Darkhallows 02:47, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

I love the fur, Darky. At the moment, I have nothing. -- Bramble -san  03:25, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, Nothin' as usual.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:29, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

There's a white pixel in the lineart of the tail. Other than that, I can see nothing. I'd say beautiful, but I don't think that fits it for Fuzzypelt, so I'll say awesome instead. Awesome! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:02, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:42, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Crookedstar - For Approval


Don't know what to make of this one... how is he? -- Bramble -san  03:24, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Wow... that's really good. :) All I have is a suggestion; Shouldn't he have a Crooked jaw? XD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 12:18, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

That's all I go too. If it helps, it said in bluestar's prophecy that it looked like it had been flipped over.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:29, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Olivepaw - For Approval
Well, my first tortoiseshell. How bad is it? (hides in corner) -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:24, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

I can't see shading. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:45, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

She looks like a calico. Add more black.-- Darkhallows 17:11, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened the shading and changed some of the white to black. Any better? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:07, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to do a tortie, but I love this.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 01:19, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

She looks great now. Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:43, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Cloversplash - For Approval
While going through the code of the clans cats, trying to find one which had a description. (hey, about that, if you find a cat who doesn't have a description (say, Hayberry or Greenflower) what do we do? Make one up in consideration to what is most likely? (Hayberry - ginger, and Greenflower - green eyes)????) So I made Cloversplash. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:11, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

It says that she has a white spot on her nose. Could you maybe move it down a little, or is it too hard?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:48, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Clovertail (Q) - For approval
Clovertail. Is the brown light enough? Ashshadow 20:01, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

I think you should darken the shading; I can hardly see it. Other than that, it looks pretty good! <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 20:51, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe darken the white a little bit as it look wired next to the brown.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:13, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I darkened the shading and made the white a bit mre cream. Is it any better? Ashshadow My Clan

The shading still needs to be darkened more.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 21:50, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

All of it? Ashshadow My Clan

No, just the belly.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 22:21, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded better? -- Ashshadow  My Clan

Yes.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 23:21, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back just a small bit. Not much, but some. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:38, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any better? Ashshadow 20:46, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

She's almost there. Just shrink the ear pink a tad so that it's not touching the lineart, and she'll be ready. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:13, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Lizardfang - for approval
What do you think? My second tabby elder in a row! Do I have the tabby stripes right?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:12, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are good, but the image looks more golden than light brown. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:00, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Also, like my new sig?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:44, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

It looks more golden-brown now than light brown. A good example of light brown would be Leafpool's med cat charart. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:32, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Better?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 00:13, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Minnow, but I think all you're doing is darkening the gold until it becomes brown, but it's not working. Besides, when you do get there, it'll be dark brown, not light brown. I don't know of any other way to fix a color except for redoing the image. Sorry, Minnowclaw. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:37, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I'll try to fix it, but give me a day or two.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 01:17, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I don't love her and I'm going to focus on leopardstar. Withdrawn-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 22:10, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Windflight - for approval
Meh.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:01, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

The image is great, but Windflight already has a charart. The new rule (in the purple box at the top) indicates that we need to focus on characters without chararts. But for the image itself, it's awesome. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:58, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Yes but he has a warrior image and was last seen as an elder.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 11:17, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then for the image, it's fine, but you might want to darken the ear in the back for more effect. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:45, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Which is better?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:46, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The shading is better on the one on the right than the left, so I'd have to say the one on the right. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:03, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Anything else?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 22:21, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The small strip of shading on the very back of the back (lol) that goes all the way down to the tail needs to be blurred some. Once you do that, this should just about be ready. Great job, Minnow! (Can I call you Minnow? Is that okay with you?) -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:00, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Marshscar-for approval
My first cat, comments?--AutumnSky 01:47, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The background needs to be transparent, there need to be a few more scars, the ear pink needs to be more in the ear, the shading needs blurred, the ear pink will also need to be blurred, and the eye needs colored in. Also, the battle scars that you have right now are too bright, and need to be blurred thoroughly. And there is lineart missing in some places, and extra lineart was added in some other parts. The shading also needs to be thickened and darkened. And since his page doesn't say what color his eye is, sometimes you just have to guess. For Marshscar...I'd say give him amber eyes, since his name is Marshscar. Good job for your first charart! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Icethroat covered it all, except the bg is gray. I have a guide to simple charart on my page if you need help.-- Darkhallows 03:43, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Approving Your Own Images
I've been wondering; if it's been 24 hours are us senior warriors allowed to archive images that we made? I feel lazy waiting for another person to do it xD.-- Darkhallows 03:46, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't actually know whether this is supposed to happen or not, but I normally treat my images impartially, as any other image. Of course, another senior warrior needs to put the 24 hours 'comments before approval' or whatnot out, but once that time is up if I'm going through and approving all the images that are ready to be added to articles etc and I come across one of my own I just do it with the others provided the time limit is up. I personally don't see a problem with archiving your own images if they've gone through the same process as any other because sometimes another senior warrior won't get on for a couple of days and the image just sits there clogging up the page. I guess the final call is down to Bramble on this though! x Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:18, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Goosefeather (MC) - For Approval
I always loved Goosefeather. His madness amuses me. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 22:30, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Wow its beautiful. Try adding more flecks to the legs, neck and tail. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 00:51, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks Spottedwing ^-^ I added a couple more flecks to the afforementioned (yay, big words :D) places. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 19:25, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is gorgeous, Hawktalon! :) Just add some more flecks on the tail, legs, and head, and he should be all set. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:08, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Question
I've been wondering about the message at the top, about trying to kill the noimage sign, what about characters in TFA? I know that we're not supposed to do images on the blanks of warrior versions of characters that were apprentices in Sunrise (ex:Icecloud or Foxleap) or things like that, but what about the new characters from TFA? Can we do their images, or should we wait for those until TFA comes out? And I also want to repeat Dawnfeather's question, what about characters who don't have a description? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:54, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

What's TFA?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 23:08, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The fourth apprentice.-- Ashshadow  My Clan

Thank you Ashshadow. In that case, we can do the cats in the Fourth Apprentice, we just can't make a pic for a cat if it has the curent forum. Like, when Dovekit is Dovepaw, we can make a new picture of her, but if say Icecloud becomes a queen, but no one has done her warrior, we would have to do the queen and then when she was a warrior a warrior. Does that make scene?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 23:19, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

wow, what with the font?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 23:20, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

So, can we do images of the new apprentices? (say...Whiskerpaw or Ferretpaw) -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:32, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I think I fixed the font. Ashshadow, you forgot to put in your siggie, causing all of the font after that to be big. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:34, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

If they are kits that become apprentices then yes.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 01:16, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Um...I'm not sure...they're new apprentices that appeared in the allegiances of TFA, and were not in any previous books. So, should I wait to make their chararts? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:06, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm totaly not being spesific. You can do them becuase they just appeared and they don't have a picture. Unless a senior warrior says I'm wrong, this is my understanding.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 11:09, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I think that we're waiting until TFA comes out before we do the characters. That's why Shadowedheart had to withdraw Foxleap and Bracken- changed Icecloud to Icewing. It's really up to Bramble and Sandy, though. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:28, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I think Echo is right about The Forth Apprentice characters as that's what we've always done before: waited until they are released first. Who knows, one of them (let's take Ferretpaw for example) might be entioned in the actual book and lose an eye or something in a border patrol. I think you get where I'm going with this - basically I think we need to wait for the book so we have ALL the possible information about the new characters' descriptions otherwise the charart could be incorrect. There are more than enough characters to be doing in the meantime. As for characters with no description... I suggest we leave them blank and do the characters we do know about first. We can cross that bridge when we come to it. [Personally I think it would be cool to have a silouhette image of the correct blank but that's just me lol]. If you're stuck for a cat to do then just go to Category:Characters and click on a random cat until you find one without an image ^_^ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:29, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Aspentail (W) - For Approval


Again, another 'A'. I had to modify the lineart slightly to give her a 'long tail' and the eye colour is generic. Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:16, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Her jaw shadow or shading near her head looks odd. Besides that, she's great Sandy! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 22:03, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is amazing! *drowns in awesomeness* But her descript says that she has streaks of pale gray, and what you have look like more of a dark gray. That's all I see, along with what Hawkey said. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:05, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

leopardstar - for approval
Okay, so Echomist gave me he permission to do this and I'm withdrawing Lizardfang, what do you think?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 22:33, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

OMG this is so much better than mine... *is envious* Anyway, all I can see is that there should be a few more spots on the body, and maybe there could be a smoother transition between the stripes and the spots? Like, the spots, then some longer, thinner, more stripey-like spots, then some even longer spots, then stripes. Just my opinion :). -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:41, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Blizzardstar - For Approval
Even though my Leopardstar was destined to be a failure, I really felt like doing a leader pixel :). Comments/criticism? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:43, October 30, 2009 (UTC)