Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Tortoiseshells
Just going to peak my nose in here for a second to talk about something that is bothering me greatly and I'm not sure if someone else has brought up but o well

I'm no expert on cat genetics and this isn't really about that. Tortoiseshell cats are made of two colors, not including white. They have both red and black pigmented patches. These can vary in shades, patterns, etc., but that is what a tortoiseshell is. There is just red/cream, black/gray and sometimes white; non-dilutes typically don't exist with dilutes blah blah blah,

Here is a chart that goes into detail about a lot of coat variations and how they work, what works with what, including tortoiseshells.

Project Character Art went through and gave ginger and cream cats stripes because they are never found without them in nature, so would it be too much to ask that you make sure your "tortoiseshells" follow the rules as well? A red base with a black base and maybe sometimes white. That's it. Not what's happening  here.

If anything you could argue these cats are chimeras, not tortoiseshells, which doesn't fit the descriptions given to begin with.

So ye. Wasn't sure where else to bring this up. Could have just told someone else to have them redone, but worse case scenario someone in the project reads this and learns a bit and stops this from reoccuring.

anyway im out, peace ✌

05:33, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

I thought they were considered smoke torties? They were fine when we brought this whole tortie thing up before, and what real harm is it doing?

??? these are based off real cats? which are smoke torties. we shouldnt have to restrict ourselves to the same pattern over and over, next thing you know itll be "mackerals and classics only because feral" when genetics doesnt mean crap in a world of black footed grey cats. 13:21, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

Smoke tortoiseshells are the real thing, and those images are fine. 13:27 Tue Aug 2016

this image is terribly bad. I found an image editor called Lunapic, and I drew Crookedstar. I couldn't get his broken jaw because I could not zoom in to see what I was doing. Yes, he has purple stripes, but they were supposed to be brown. Here it is: -- F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7   14:58, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

This is still ignoring cats like Sunstrike, but alright. Smoke torties have black-tips to their fur. That's it. They don't have distinct patches of black AND blue AND cream like these chararts show. These coats are incredibly brindled and textured, which is why they appear the way they do in pictures. I'm not saying restrict yourselves (which I honestly don't know how you could do with tortoiseshells,) but at least accurately represent them if that's what your aiming for. Challenge yourselves, if anything. If this project wants to accurately represent these characters then it should do every chance it gets to do so. This is THE Warriors Wiki. Sure, take artistic liberties, but when your art is unrecognizable as to what it should be presenting then take a step back and fix it. 03:51, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

juniper branch is the only one with blue, and that's very easily tweaked anyway. and sunstrike I'm pretty sure is based off an irl cat, and if it bothers you that much it's easily tweaked.

you can go on and on about black furtips or whatever but the reality is they do look like they have large patches of black/dark grey/whatever it is and cream and that's what's being matched, it's an irl tortie and they're certainly recognisable as one so what's the problem. :/ 03:59, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

Sunstrike is based off of Icy's cat, actually! It's a very real pattern and I've seen many pictures of her. The black base just takes the place of her white one.

If you want a genetically realistic torite, you can't just replace a white base with a gray one as one cat cannot have both black and gray as Sunstrike's chararts do. However, Warriors has many unrealistic cat patterns and therefore I don't think chararts need to be genetically realistic. 2:50 Thu Sep 1

Charart
Is there a place where you can put your chararts? I made this bad one of Tigerstar but cannot find anywhere else to put it except here. Here it is:

I'm not sure what you're referring to. Some people make charart pages for their chararts to keep them organized, but those are only for their approved official art through the project and perhaps their personal image and requests. Also, the main PCA talk page may not be the best place to post your art, btw. Also, make sure to leave a signature next time so people know who you are :)

Firstly I checked who made the photo. I think it's [Featherstar27|http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/User:Featherstar27] who posted. By the way, how do you make a charart page? I tried to make one once but halfway through formatting I realised it would pop up as a wikia page and not one attributed to me. For Featherstar, it seems like you mistitled your photo. Make it Featherstar27.personal.jpg. Way too many people are mistitling their pages, dammit! And also, if you used MS paint, we don't do that, we use GIMP/Pixlr/Paint.NET/Photoshop. GIMP is the most popular one but Photoshop and Paint.NET are used to. If you wanna join PCA, make a new topic, title it "join" and ask to join. Give some other projects some love, though. -- Neon Skylite "Just take a chance with me!" (Talk Page!) 06:34, September 1, 2016 (UTC)

Neon, if you want to make a charart page name it something like "User:Neon Skylite/Charart" then select the blank page format instead of the other one when it asks you to. This should solve your formatting issues, and it will be attributed to you because of the "User:" part up front in the page title.

This is not the place to put up chararts. Take it to the Approval page. Plus, Tigerstar already has an image, he doesn't need another one. Also, before putting images up for approval, reserve them. This is probably confusing, but the guidelines can explain this more clearly.--  15:22, September 1, 2016 (UTC)

Using Charart besides from the Warriors Wiki
I'm setting up a wiki for a fan made Warrior Cats groups called: Brotherhood of hunting. So I was wondering if I could use the outlines from the office Warrior wiki in my own charater profile images over on my wiki.

So are the outlines in public domian or not? Mellowix (talk) 07:49, September 4, 2016 (UTC)

No, they are not in public domain. It says on the main page that the blanks made here can only be used on This Wiki, and no other website. This is because the artists who made the blanks made them for us, and not necessarily for every website out there.

Join...?
May I join this project? I think these cats are really cute :3 Rainlace (talk) 14:05, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

Was a bit sucky on the splotches (if someone knows how to draw them nicely and tell me that'd be great) and eyes, will change soon. User:Neon Skylite/Sig Took colours from her kit file.

Wrong page, Neon.

woops --

Neon Skylite "Just take a chance with me!" (Talk Page!) 05:22, September 9, 2016 (UTC)

Tabby on all red cats
Hello! I know it has been like this for a while that you draw all red and red-related cats as tabby, no matter if they were described as such or not. Now someone asked this thing on Kate' Blog and she replied to it that she imagines the cats as solide coloured and they only become tabby when Cherith or Vicky describe them as tabby. Here is the source Red Tabby no or yes?. I thought maybe you want to take a look at this because I was not sure how to deal with it. Isn't it that you have to remove the tabby from the cats that are not described as such now? SuSusann (talk) 17:40, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

imagining as one colour =/= not tabbies. its not a comfirmation. 18:07, September 12, 2016 (UTC)

Can i join the prject as a Kit?
I want 2 make charart for the warriors wiki. So can i plz join? Bluedragon64 (talk) 23:43, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Please don't include your userpage in your sig. It spams pages :/ --  01:21, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

Joining
Can I join? 14:29, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

Re-join?
Gshh, I'm so sorry I just dissapeared. School proved my priority, and for the summer I was decently busy -- Could I possibly be re-added? I wan an apprentice.

23:47, September 15, 2016 (UTC)

Leaving
I'd like to be removed from the project. I'm not really interested in chararting anymore. It was fun! 15:51 Sat Sep 17