Warriors Wiki talk:Charart



Kittypet Blanks - For Approval


I was messing around in the warriors wiki when I found many declined images so I put the Kittypet blanks for approval. Comments?--Yai-Girl 17:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Yai, these are Darkhallows' images. You need her permission to edit them, and also, o, Sandiwolf was working on them; they were just taken down due to black of work. -- Bramble My Realm 21:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Oops sorry.--Yai-Girl 15:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

These had best be declined then until Darkhallows gives her permission to use the old blanks and until you sort it out with Sandiwolf. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Yai-girl can use them. I have attempted to revamp them to no avail. Maybe she can.-- Darkhallows Lair 17:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Alright then, back up for approval. Sandiwolf's were declined, and if she wants them back up, she and Yai can talk it out. There is a chances that one set can be used as rogues and the other as kittypets. (will add criticism when I have time) -- Bramble My Realm 16:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Kittypets are well-groomed. The fur on the lond-hairs are sticking out everywhere. I thought you weren't supposed to put cats in drying machines? -- MU MB LE 785  23:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Mumble, long-hairs are fluffy, know matter how "well-groomed" they are. Maybe make the hair a tad bit closer to the pelt, though. I love the collars. :)--Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 00:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Now, the lineart needs to be thicker, so as it goes with the other images. Instead of the tail being up, it would be better if it was curled around the paws, I think, and the ears need to be shrunk. The paws look slightly awkward too. I found this pic: click You could probably use it for reference. -- Bramble My Realm 20:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with everything Bramble. That pic made me laugh though. I would advise you not to make them quite that fat Yai! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, hey, they are kittypets. lol but yeah, don't make them that fat Yai. -- Bramble My Realm 23:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I have trouble making the long hairs fluffy can someone help me?--Yai-Girl 14:28, 29 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Hre's another reference: <Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 16:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I did the short hairs, how do they look?--Yai-Girl 19:03, 30 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Looks great, but can you please make them a bit bigger? MaYbe the size of my Loner blanks on the bottom? Besides that I love them! The reason I want them to be bigger, is beacuse it's easier to add shading, blending, and smudging, and so we can see the colors and tabby stripes/dapple even better. Hawkfire ♫  Go Aggies! 22:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

How do you make the blanks bigger?--Yai-Girl 14:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Oh erm.. I don't know. Maybe ask somebody who is good at the computer? I had to redo my loner blanks to make them bigger :( Hawkfire ♫  Go Aggies! 15:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I have a couple of things:


 * 1) They are a little small but I'm not sure how to make them bigger (Moss might know as she did it for her prey-hunters)
 * 2) There doesn't seem to be much difference between the longhaired and shorthaired - make it clearer which have longer fur
 * 3) The heads are a little strange - they seem really... angular and the eyes are really off centre which looks odd
 * 4) The lineart on the inside of a couple of them still needs to be thickened.

Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I thickened the lineart on the long hairs.--Yai-Girl 21:16, 1 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I have a suggestion, try to make the tail on the longhears thicker so then we can tell the difference. --Spottedwing 16:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

thickened tails.--Yai-Girl 18:47, 2 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Here´s a diagram, I had no problems with it, but it´s a small like Hawkfire and Sandy said.--Yai-Girl 10:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I don't know.... the style just doesn't seem right.... -- Dawnfeather talk! 09:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean Dawn?--Yai-Girl 11:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

They look rather cartoon-ish to me, and I honestly don't think they work very well. Please don't get me wrong - there is no offense intended, to either you, Yai-Girl, or Shady. -- Dawnfeather talk! 11:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I can make them bigger, Yai, if that's alright with you. What Spottedwing meant when she said thicker tails wasn't the tail lineart, it was the size of the tail. As for the cartoonishness, I think their heads are the main problem. Their ears are at an awkward angle, and a bit big, and I think their heads just seem a bit wonky. But other than that, they seem like our other blanks. If you think about it Dawn, they're all cartoons... at least in the fact that they're drawn. -- Bramble My Realm 03:11, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Here are my horribble ears.--Yai-Girl 11:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

The angle on the tails of the short hairs are bothering me. Make them more curved. I had the same problem. Also, I can barley tell the females from the males. Make the males coalars more maleish ( If that makes since ).Minnowclaw 11:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The right ear (Our right), looks smaller than the left ear, on the long-haired cats. Maybe make the right ears a bit bigger. Also, I agree with Minnowclaw; the males are hard to distinguish from the females. I think if you made the females' eyes a bit more "feminine", they'd look better. ;) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 16:50, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I made the ears bigger and fixed the tails.--Yai-Girl 09:40, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

You're skipping over the make the females more feminine and the males more masculine. I think thickening their eye lineart, and making the female eyes look more feminine, and making a collar differenece would be better. -- Bramble My Realm 14:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I made the females eyes more feminine, made the males lissence rounder rather than a heart shape like on the females, and I made the long hairs tails thiner.--Yai-Girl 15:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl



I made another Rusty... these blanks do work. They just need to be made bigger. Also I like how the tail comes from behind the body on the longhairs more than the other two. Make the shorthairs tails curve round exactly like longhairs. -- Bramble My Realm 19:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think they look right... they're very square on the shoulders and legs and the fur is all... tufty which makes them look like ungroomed kits. I think the fur for both the long and shorthaired needs to be sleeker as if it is well-groomed and the angle of the head is strange. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not exactly looking at you; the head was made at a 3/4 angle. -- Blackclaw09 20:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you, Sandy. I expressed that awhile ago, with the fur... But, yeah. Do as the loyal deputy said. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:29, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I twicked the long-hairs I will do the short-hairs later.--Yai-Girl 23:09, 15 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Where the leg is connected to the body there is an awkward looking pixel.-- Darkhallows Lair 17:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Here?--Yai-Girl 12:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

They're so cute! Except, I think the long-hairs' tails need to be fluffier.  Jane Volturi Sparrowsong 17:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Also, make the long-haired cats' back legs, a little fluffier. Very cute, Yai-Girl! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - On the longhaired's, their paws are bigger than the shorthaired's - make them the size of the shorthaired's. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  01:20, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, the ears need to be at least slightly more rounded. -- Dawnfeather talk! 09:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Also -
 * As I said before, the ears.
 * The mark showing the top of the head extends too far on that side in my opinioin. Maybe just shorten it a few pixels.
 * I know this bit was hard, but the she-cat's love-heart tag collar thingy's shape needs to be refined a bit.
 * The one next to the question mark - I don't know maybe just tweak that little area with the hindleg a bit - it didn't look quite right to me but it will be fine if you don't edit it.
 * The thing that bugs me most about these images - how at that point there with the arrows and diagrams coming from it the line doesn't change from vertical-pixel-coloumn-thingy to the other gradually, but *wup!* it's here, and then *wup!* it's there. Just add in a few other pixels to make it less, sudden. I'm sorry if I seem harsh - I just want to help you get this image approved so tweak week can come.! -- Dawnfeather talk! 10:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Here are he short hairs, I will try to edit the long hairs but it's pretty hard.--Yai-Girl 12:39, 24 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Here are the worst long hairs on the planet.--Yai-Girl 15:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I'm not sure what happened, but I made this back into an editable topic. The only thing still bugging me a bit would be the female tags on the collars. Other than that, these are really nice, I think. (:-- Quiet !... 18:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I think the long hairs look pretty good. The female tags on the collars look different between the long hairs and the short hairs, the one on the short hair looks more like a heart, while the one on the long hair looks more square-ish at the top. (it is supposed to be a heart, right?) Otherwise, everything looks great! Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 20:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)



(M) - Here's a diagram for the collars. :) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  23:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Here are the collars.--Yai-Girl 12:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

They look great! -- Rain whisker 09 14:37, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Why didn't someone just ask if they could touch up the Kittypet blanks Sandiwolf made that were close to approval? I liked the position on those... these are really good too, although they need to be enlarged... I like the fur on the longhairs though. --♫ insaneular ♫ 15:27, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

These havent been worked on in a week i know i cant put a decline notice up but it hasnt been worked on. --Stonestar 21:20, September 1, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

But no ones commented soo... Anyway, one ear is longer than the other (on the longhairs) and the tag is a little too big-- Darkhallows Lair 02:47, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

The reason the ear is longer is cause the head is facing to one side. If it was both the same size, it would look like one ear shrunk. But I agree, the tags are a bit big. -- Rain whisker 09 15:28, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the other ear should be longer. I didn't see the image. If you don't want to re-draw the ears, you could put the longer ear on the right side and the shorter ear on the left side. -- Rain whisker 09 15:31, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - If the head is at a 3/4th angle, it would need to look like this:

Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:56, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Birchfall for approval
My first image. Comments? Criticism? Feel Free Bracken- 17:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

This is good Bracken! The only problem I see is the smudged lineart. Fix that, then we can see if there are any other issues.-- Echomist Look out for flying hedgehogs! 18:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I see a few problems. His pelt is a strange orange colour where it should be brown (like his father). The lineart is very blurry so Echo's right, that does need fixing. Also, the large triangular tabby markings you've used are deemed as cartooony and are not acceptable for the high standards of the project. There are a few alternative marking methods that are esay to do. You can use wavy markings such as on Tornear or Stumpytail - I use these personally for warriors and there are very easy to do. You can also try the 'jagged y' markings such as on Brambleclaw or Cinderheart and there are others besides such as Sunstar. I would suggest either of the first two options however as it is your first image - make sure they're only slightly darker than your base colour. When you've sorted the lineart and the colour and the markings then we'll talk shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Here's Birchfall again, I hope he's better this time. Bracken- 20:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

He looks a lot better but next time can you post Birchfall at the same place as your first one. Stonestar 20:22, 1 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

He's much better. You just need to make the pink of the ear more triangular and less blurry, so that it doesn't interfere with the lineart. You could also look at some of the approved warrior images to get an idea of the small issues like the ear pink, shading, and how to make the pupil of the eye.-- Echomist Look out for flying hedgehogs! 01:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the need is very... stand-out-ish. make it end at the tip of the whiskers and erase all that darker color that was paint over his neck. Some of his eye has went over the outer lineart. The shading needs to be blended a lot more, and needs to be darker. I can barely see it in some places. The tabby markings are almost a sickly green color. Make it only a shade or two darker than the pelt.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 19:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

We're getting there. You have all the components it just looks a bit messy. You need to carefully blend the shading into the pelt so it is a smoother colour transition. Take a bit away from the top of the muzzle as it runs straight from the head and looks odd. Then straighten some of the markings so they look a bit neater and add some more in the gaps you've missed. Make the ear pink triangular and blend it in slightly. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Blend the ear pink, like sandy said, but I think that the shape is fine. Make the pink a little bit darker, though... It's sort of bright. You need to blend the shading and markings tremendously. Try using the blur tool at http://www.pixlr.com/. It'll help you out. ;) Other than that, great image. :) -- MU MB LE 785  21:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, This should be okay, I changed the stripes, and blurred "everything" I hope this is good! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 23:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thin the shading a little bit (It goes a little too far into the body), lighten it a little bit, and blend it some more. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  18:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 23:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Very good bracken-i love him!!!i just suggest to blend in a littl the shading.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;DeepPink; background:Aquamarine; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;"> ♫ Shimmer ღ 23:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded Is he a bit too pink? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 02:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

i've got 2 I'm not sure which one is better... Can you tell me maybe? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 22:01, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I personally like the first one. However, use the same eye technique you used on the second one on the first one. Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 01:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I got two more!!! new stripes. is blurred better? or non blurred stripes? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 23:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I like the color and the shading, but I think the shading needs to be blurred more... I think the stripes should be a tad bit thicker, and when blurring them be careful not to smudge the lineart because it looks like it got a bit blurred. Also, maybe vary the shape of the stripes a bit (make some longer, or some thicker, or make some 'Y' shaped) because not all the stripes on a tabby look the same. Otherwise, it looks great. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 23:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

okay,3 --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 00:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Right. I'm not sure which version you want to work on but personally I like the third best. Add tabby stripes on the rest of the body (and legs/tail/head etc). Make sure you have shading in all the required places: top of head, back ear, back, chest, tail, legs, curve of hindleg and blend it all a little without blending the lineart. You just need to neaten this image up a bit as everything's a little messy. Make the ear pink triangular and in the center of the ear and then blend a little. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 22:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Make the stripes on the upper back longer, and add more shading.-- Darkhallows Lair 17:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The stripes look like you made a line then used the smudge tool. Make them firmer and add them on the head. Add stripes on his chest. Blur the shading and add more on the top of the head. Also thin the shading on the chest.Minnowclaw 20:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Re-uploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 17:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes look great (how did you do them? I'd be interested in giving them a go) Lighten the shading a little and blend it in more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

There are some white pixels on his chest, and smudges all around outside/on the lineart. The tabby stripes are a little weird for me, but that's just me, I'm weird. xD -- Quiet !... 06:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded  --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 16:41, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it looks pretty good, Bracken-. I hate to be picky about some of the little things, but it sort of looked like some of the tabby stripes were different textures in one place than another. Try to make it look all the same, maybe smudge them together or make the lines diagonal rather than straight horizontal and vertical. Also, there's a couple of white pixels near his chest, can you fill those in? And just one other thing, some of the tabby stripes are in the outline black pixels, and others don't even look like they're touching the outline. Try to blend them together some more. Otherwise, it looks great. Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 20:41, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat, its looks like some tabby stripes are........jaggier, or sharper then other sites, I suggest to smudge all the stripes a bit. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Aqua; background:magenta; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;"> ღ♥Peacesong♥ღ Peacesong's Talk 20:46, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Very nice, but it looks like you've accidentally blurred some of the tail lineart. If you can't see it, I'll make a diagram for you. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Jane Volturi Sparrowsong 19:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't exactly know why, but the tabby markings are bothering me... I think it might be because I'm not yet used to the style. *shrugs* Oh well. I can be starnge sometimes... Other than that, he's looking pretty good. ;) -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:30, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good, all I see is that there is a narrow stripe of gray on his back, erase that, otherwise, its very good! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Aqua; background:magenta; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;"> ♥Peacesong♥ Peace is here..... 21:49, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

gray? (can see it.....) anyways reuploaded this time I blurred the stripes... did I blur the lineart? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 21:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

You blurred the lineart in some spots, (behind the back leg and a few spots on the tail). I like it better blurred. But that's just my opinion. We'll have to see what Bramble thinks. ;) --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:52, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I personally like the new stripes. They look more natural. I fixed the blurred lineart for you, Bracken. I think the only thing you really have left to do is blur the shading where it comes across the body. Other than that he's pretty good. -- Bramble My Realm 17:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADEDwait, so is the blurred on better? or the other on the left? I reuploaded the one on the left --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Turquoise; background:Black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Turquoise;"> ☆Darkkeh☆ Just try and shut me up 16:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Blurred looks better, that way the tabby stripes won't be all jaggedy. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;aqua; background:silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> ☮ ♫'Peacesong☮ ♫ Ready To Pounce! 21:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The color is more of a cream or light ginger (like Sandstorm and Daisy) while it should be brown. I like the markings, they're kinda different but they look good. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 03:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

He's great bracken- just put more shading on the right legs.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">ღ Sunny ღ 16:31, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

wait, I thought Birchfall was light brown, his colour is a bit darker than Honeyfern who is also light brown so, should I change it? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Turquoise; background:Black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Turquoise;"> ☆Darkkeh☆ Narf.Yes 17:16, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I would say to still make it a little darker. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 19:12, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

I like the second one better; just make the markings a little bit darker, and he'd be awesome. ;) But, that's my opinion. *shrugs* -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:12, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploadedokay, how's this?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Turquoise; background:Black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Turquoise;"> ☆Darkkeh☆ Narf.Yes 17:30, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a little so it's more the same colour as the Original Ashfur (TC) warrior pic (see below) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:43, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Turquoise; background:Black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Turquoise;"> ☆Darkkeh☆ Narf.Yes 17:52, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Bracken, it looks great! You're really improving. The only thing I can see is that there's a thin line sticking out on his back, probably from when you were fixing some blurred lineart? Just erase it, and it'll be fine. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 13:25, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Boulder - Redone


New version on left.

(M) - I feel sorry for Boulder because he was my first image I ever did for PCA. xP

I redid his tabby markings as classic (The old style was fine, but the markings were messy and didn't mach my current style.) I also put the shading in the right places and made it visable, and got rid of the smuded lineart. I aslo changed the ear pink (You wouldn't see it all in this pose.) Comments?

Maybe lighten the sahding. It looks really dark right now. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 18:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Mossflight, lighten up the shading, its a little too dark now! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Aqua; background:magenta; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;"> ღ♥Peacesong♥ღ Peacesong's Talk 19:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

O.O Lighten the shading like Mossflight said, for I agree that the shading is way to dark. Very good though. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Could somebody that has Photoshop lighten the shading? There's no lighten shading tool in Pixlr, and my computer discarded my unshaded version. If there's a way to lighten the shading on pixlr, could you tell me please? Thank you! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't have photoshop, sadly, but I think if you run the dodge tool over it a few times it should lighten it. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:10, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I tried... I don't know if it worked though. -- Bramble My Realm 03:01, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Aww, thanks Bramble! *nuzzles you* It definately helped. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the white pixel on the paw, fixed some blurred lineart, and changed the highlight on the cheek because it was bothering me. Anything else I need to change? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 15:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, the shading still looks really dark. - Skyfeather <font color="lightblue" style="background:white;"> '95  00:55, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah i agree with Skyfeather1995, the shadign is still pretty dark, and could you blur the pink in the ear a little more?<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">ღ Sunny ღ 16:37, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Ack! Sorry guys, school is eating up my time. *Headwall* Anyways, thanks for the tip Warrior♥! I tried that and I think it helped. I also changed the highlight on the haunch (Basically got rid of it, actually) and blurred the ear pink with the hardness on zero - I think it helped, but this is definatley the most blurred it's gonning to get. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:40, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

If the shading is still too dark, I can lighten it a bit in PS5, if you'd like? Overall it looks much better than the original, though. Good work! (:-- Quiet !... 03:23, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think this looks great now :) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:40, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Mosskit - Redone


My first real charart Mosskit She-Cat Version im pretty happy how it turned out comment?--Stonestar 18:35, 27 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

She needs a lot more shading; I can hardly see any at all.--<span style="color:Orchid;background:Wheat;font-family:AvantGarde Md BT;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orchid;"> Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 19:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree, everything else is pretty good, you just need to add more shading. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Aqua; background:magenta; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;"> ღ♥Peacesong♥ღ Peacesong's Talk 19:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Where should i put the shading?--Stonestar 19:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Put a little on her back, then blur it with the blur tool. Just to blend it in. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Aqua; background:magenta; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;"> ღ♥Peacesong♥ღ Peacesong's Talk 20:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

This is pretty good Stonestar, but you need more shading, I can't really see it --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 22:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I added some chin shading and thickened and blurred the back anything else? --Stonestar 13:36, 28 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Everything looks blurred now. Just blur the shading, not the lineart. You have to be really careful not to let the brush touch it. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 14:22, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink just a tad, and add a little bit more shading. Otherwise, she's great!--<span style="color:Orchid;background:Wheat;font-family:AvantGarde Md BT;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orchid;"> Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 16:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Blurred ear more and added shading. --Stonestar 13:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;"> Stonestar May StarClan Light Your Path!!

She's beautiful stonwstar!!!just put the ear a littl edarker pink, its hard to notice the pink.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">ღ Sunny ღ 16:37, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a bit big now. Try shrinking it a little. -- Rain whisker 09 15:24, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Ashfur (TC) Redone

 * New image is on the right, old on the left. I basically just redid it. Not much to say here... I considered blending it more, is it needed? Other comments? --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 20:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

This is done with my permission. :) The jaw shadow needs to be lighter and blended more.. a bit more shading on his chest as well. He's very good. -- Bramble My Realm 21:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Bramble, the chest shading, well, I can't really see it, and the jaw shading, I can see it too much! Just blend it more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Aqua; background:magenta; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;"> ^_^Peacesong Peace is here..... 21:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded, and changed what you specified. Better now? --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 04:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you can blend it a little more but it looks alot better then the last one Iceriver  00:19, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Can you change the ear pink so it's like the old version colour? This one looks very purpley Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:49, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded and changed the ear pink. I tried to get t as close as I could to the old one. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 13:30, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

This is perfet - I see nothing wrong; Any further suggestions before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:31, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Weaselfur (W) - Redone (With Warrior's permission)


I added shading and sorted the eye. The image was actually very good so I just added onto what Gorse had already done. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I dont know if its just my computer but his paws look like a very light pink.Very good though!--Stonestar 13:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

He's pretty good, but the neck shading could be shrunk a bit more. The transition between the white paw and the pelt needs to be blurred; also, the shading style you used is different than the original. The range was highlight for the original shading, and I think you used mid-tones. Is that confusing or do you know what I'm talking about? :) -- Bramble My Realm 16:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I kind of get what you're saying and I'll edit this asap. lol Sorry for the delay Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 07:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Ooh... I definitely see what you mean now... (I'm on my new laptop now (!!!!!!) and it had better graphics quality... ) I will sort it. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Sandy, Looks better than mine by a long-shot! I had to check in to see if you put it up yet, btw. THe only thing that catches me now is the ear pink. IT looks a touch to big. Can you shrink it a smudge? =)--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 23:46, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

I finally managed to udate this :) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:44, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

I really like the new style of shading, but maybe you could lighten it up a bit? It looks like his fur is kind of burnt now. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 13:15, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I lightened it the best I could. I didn't do it too much though as it made his fur a strange colour that didn't look ginger at all. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:42, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

His paws look like a light pink could you change them please?--Stonestar 14:24, September 3, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Oops, sorry Stonestar; I thought I'd gotten everything. Here, better? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:35, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Feathertail- Redone


Hey Hawkfire here! I just got finished with her. (really sorry Shimmer!) I fixed her ear pink and her eye, and lightened the shading on her tail. I can't get the old pic of the oringinal Feathertail! I accidently uploaded it with the same name. Somebody help please. Hawkey  Ready for action 13:34, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

The ear needs to be blended more.--Stonestar 13:35, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Something looks funky about the way it was blended- I mean from the original, not what you did. I'm not sure if it's because the lines got smudged in or they just had a weird shading style, but I think you should go over the shading a bit and then reblur it.Same for the tabby markings, they look a bit strange, so maybe if you went over them in the same color then blurred them again that would work. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 15:09, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Very good, but I believe Feathertail should be long-haired. It's because a. she's RiverClan; they generally have thick fur and b. she was said to have a feathery/fluffy tail. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 17:57, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Insanular, umm...wow I am not sure I can do all of that. The tabby stripes look amazing and the shading is great to me. I will change her to a long hair, even tho I never imagined her that way. Silverstream is short hair, and she's from RiverClan. If I did have to change her to long-hair, I would have to redo the whole image. Do you really want me to do that? Hawkey  Ready for action 19:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I could change her to a long-hair if you want, with oly minor edits..-- Darkhallows Lair 20:22, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You wont exactly have to redo her all the way. The technique I use is past the image in paint and color the lineart white. Then take the lineart of the long hair and past it over, with white being transparent and you just have to remove the eye out of the other image. The only problem is you will have to add more coloring to the tail area and the chest.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 20:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Shady that would be very kind of you! Now all I have to do is mess with the ear pink. :)Thanks so much! Hawkey  Ready for action 21:46, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Brambleclaw-for Approval
New Old

Shimmer is back!!! For the time being since its a weekend xD Brambleclaw's image has bugged me the moment Dustpelt and Tigerclaw were made. They both are dark tabbies, but why must poor Brambleclaw be lighter??? I know he was made when the project first started so I wanted to redo him to make him up to date of our new way of coloring. Plus Brambleclaw been mentioned numerous times that he looks like his father meaning they must have the same tabby markings, right? So I decided to give him some that closely resembles, but not the exact same cause then it would look like I copied the image and I don't like doing that. I also decided to change him to long haired because Tigerstar is longhaired, and I've always pictured him as one. Plus I think it metioned how he hated his fur being wet..but that just might be my imagination. -- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:38, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Looks awesome Shimmer! But hey, he doesn't seem like a long haired. It just looks really strange to me. Change it to a short hair and see how it looks. Hawkey  Ready for action 19:51, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

He's great shimmer!!But i think you should blur alitlle more the pink in the ear.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">ღ Sunny ღ 20:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Wow, the newer one looks so much better! *squeal* I'm so lucky to have you as my mentor! I agree with you about Brambleclaw being long-haired. I think it looks great. :) Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 21:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Lol I'm happy to have you as an apprentice Icethroat. But so what should it be, long-haired or short-haired guys?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 01:00, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

It looks awesome! And it's good that it looks more similar to the Tigerclaw image. I just think the shading should be blurred a bit more. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 01:03, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I always saw Brambleclaw as shorthaired, personally. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

It's great, I really love it. The only thing I can see is that his eyes look yellow when they should be amber/orange. Also, how do you do tabby markings like that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 02:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you blend the shading on the back a bit more please? It stands out a lot... Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

He's awesome!!! Just one thing: Maybe make him a tad bit lighter. ;) -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:09, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Can you blend the ear pink a tad? It looks really sharp. =) [Had to check in a minute. xD]


 * Updated! for its the only day I can get on during the weeks to work on him...but no one has said anything else about the fur. I made him a tad lighter, but not to light, because he is a dark tabby after all and when I did at first he came out as a golden brown O.O scared me half to death. And as for the tabby markings Sparrow, I pretty much just looked at the Tigerclaw image and the blank side by side, and then drawed them in using the pencil tool.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 23:49, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Brightheart - Redone


My new Brightheart. I made her patches a similar color to the new versions, made the shading a lot better, changed her patches position. Not sure if it's better or worse than my old one... suggestions? -- Bramble My Realm 02:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

She's beautiful Bramble!-- Darkhallows Lair 07:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I like this Bramble but i think a small patch of ginger on her hind leg.--Stonestar 13:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Well, the thing is, Stonestar, that none of the other pictures of Brightheart have a ginger patch there. I'm aiming for consistency. -- Bramble My Realm 01:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I like it. but maybe blend the highlights on the upper back and blend the shading on the lower back/ haunch more. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 01:24, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I like it too :) Just blend a ittle and she's good to go Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh okay i didnt notice :).--Stonestar 13:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

It's hard to tell, but it looks like her eye doesn't have a pupil. It might just be my computer screen making it hard to see but it looks just green to me. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 15:32, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Her eye has a pupil, is it hard for anyone else to see? I blurred to the best of my ability. Any other suggestions? -- Bramble My Realm 14:44, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I know this is a bit late, but I was just rereading FoS and the first description of Brightpaw was 'White with patches of ginger along her back and tail.' So, I mean, if you want to change the patches, you can, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 14:49, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I think the patches are fine, and she looked odd to me in my head with just patches on her back and tail... Anywho, I can't really see to pupil in the eye. Maybe make it a tad bit bigger maybe? I dunno. Great image, though. : ) -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:51, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is how I normally do an eye. I can see the pupil fine... This was how the approved version was as well. If I made it bigger it would eat up too much green. Do you really want it changed, or is it passable? -- Bramble My Realm 01:47, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

It looks fine to me... Any other suggestions before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:47, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reminder
Just to remind members of a few things, please put the cats you want to do for Tweak Week after your name in the Current Projects section. Also, when you upload your redone image, please save it over the old file. It saves space. I had more but I forgot. :) So just keep that in mind. Thanks, Bramble  My Realm 02:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Whitetail-Redone
Besides changing Graystripe's eye this is the last one I'm doning (Yellowfand can stay the way she is). The old Whitetail had yucky shading. I hope this one is better!- Darkhallows Lair 22:27, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's blurred 100% I can't do anymore...-- Darkhallows Lair 03:01, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

She's beautiful Shady. I can't see anything wrong :) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:27, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - This is wonderful! I see nothing wrong. :) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  20:53, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Per Moss. 24 hours starting now. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:29, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Dustpelt - Redone


Made the tabby markings a lot better, used a better shading technique, and just changed a few other things from the original. Suggestions? -- Bramble My Realm 02:12, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

This looks really great Bramble. I can't see anything right now Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:45, September 3, 2009 (UTC)