Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Briarkit - For approval
I drew Briarkit. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. G B 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

A few things. One, the background cannot be colored, and also needs to be transparent. I can fix that for you. Two, the eyes are "missing." Three, there needs to be more blending and shading. FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

1. I will fix the background, but I would appreciate it if you made it transparent.2. Her eye-color hasn't been said yet; if it is revealed in Long Shadows, I'll add it.3. If you can give me some tips on how to do the shading and blending, I'll work on it. G B 14:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Idf you downloaded an art program you should have a blurtool if you do you use a darker shade around the edges then you use the blurtool to blend them together.--Redflare 14:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I reuploaded Briarkit; I attempted to some shading. Like it? G B 15:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It's better!-- J K  O  21:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jakko! FxC, any comments? G B 22:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the great comments! If there's anything else I can do to improve it (besides blurtool :p), tell me! G B 22:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks better. The outline need to be black though. For the eyes, I know it hasn't been revealed. I suggest green - it's really neutral. --FxC **The Waterfall** 02:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If we left things out to wait for details from the books, pretty much none of the characters would be able to be done. I'd personally suggest a generic cat-eye-color like amber. Outlines need to be black. Shading is needed. And the pink selected for inside the ears... It's rather... bright and unnatural.. Maybe suggest a softer, gentler pink.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Added her eyes. But I forgot about the black outline, fix that as soon as I can! G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Did the outline. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like the outline was changed from the original lineart... and the eyes... have this creepy staring Zombie thing going on... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Kitsufox is right. It does look like a zombie with these eyes.ZZ Top 19:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should just draw in little pupils to make it look more natural. 97.115.124.162 03:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree...-- J K  O  03:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

This really does look good, GB. Just draw some pupils in like 97... said and blur the shading and ears and it'll look great! -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I have GIMP now! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Much improved. The eyes are still... a bit off. You might wish to spend some more time on them. And the shading needs to get blended into the picture, as does the pink on the inside of the ears (right now it just looks like a dollop of paint fell there). You've sorted the outline issue wonderfully, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Kitsu! I'm on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The ear pink is still unblended and incredibly bright. The shading is still un-blended. The eyes do look good, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll take your advice, Kitsu. I'll work on Briarkit. On the changes. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Your'e so close. I think what'll help is making the pink of the ears more triangular. 97.115.120.104 01:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The pink is really a bit bright yet for such a dark furred cat. And blending it a bit more, so it's just a hint of how thin the fur on the inside of the ears and they'll be pretty good. You should also blend a touch more under the chin, as that shading line is still really sharp. You also missed shading on the bit of belly that shows, and want to make sure all your shading transitions are nice and smooth. You're almost there! <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on this tomorrow. (SB's using the computer, which has GIMP on it.) <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Harespring - For Approval
My first attempt at making a pixel. I know there's a lot wrong with it, but anyway. Criticize away :–– &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; undefined 19:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My first impression involves the fact that I see strait lines. Which are not natural ;) Rough 'em up. Definetly not a bad start, though. You do need blending, though, on the markings so they look less painted on and more a part of the pelt. And it needs shading. I swear... I need a notice at the top that reads "If you haven't blended or shaded your picture it isn't ready for consideration". <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 19:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I blended it a bit more, added a bit more (of what I hope is) shading. Any better?–– &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; undefined 20:25, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The only place I see shading is on the back leg... You need more. To give the image definition and a suggestion of shape. The white markings are someone better. But there are still strait lines on the forepaw and tail. The pink for the inside of the ear... Is sorta messed up, too. You might want to take a look at how others have done it... Right now it looks off because the pink is too wide. Nice work on fixing the markings, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I added some more shading, fixed the ear, and added some more smudging. Gotta go, though, so I'll do the straight lines when I get back, sometime tomorrow.–– &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; undefined 13:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Yay, Eu's helping with the project! :p But I thought Harespring was brown and white; this looks nothing like brown. He also looks blurry at some spots, and I can't see the shading. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:07, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You'll want to fix where the blurring and smudging fuzzed-up your outline. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't belive Harespring has spots, either. This needs to be redone competly.ZZ Top 19:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Harespring is "a brown-and-white tom." This is correct colors. swifty {ASTRX} 19:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I like the overall picture, but there are just a few things. The color of the pelt looks more like a mixture of yellow-tan than brown. Try a color like what Briarkit has. Also, in the allegiances of Eclipse, it just says he's a brown and white tom, not that he has white spots. Maybe try more like patches of white. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

ZZ Top, it does not need to be completely redone. The brown looks yellowish, and like Kitsu said, you need to fix where the blurring fuzzed everything up. Also, the white needs to be increased. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 02:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * We acctually don't have any proof that the cat needs more or less white. Unless you guys can track down some references from the books other than the "brown and white" bit. We don't have any indication that the cat's a tuxedo or the like. With the disregaurd of the authors towards exactness to genetics and the 'pigment parade', I simply can't decline thing on the grounds that it's not a typical interpretation of bicolor markings. I do, however, need to ask for the rest of the points where the outline is blurred to be corrected, and I'd like to see a little bit of smoothing on the outlines of the patches, and getting rid of the strait line for the white tail tip. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:31, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

No one has commented on this for awhile....Should it be declined?User:Mallinois 16:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Not yet. It's been 5 days and I don't even consider touching them for cleanup declines until they've been sitting at least a week. Sometimes people just get busy. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Toadkit - Declined
This is my go at Toadkit. Please comment appropriately. Eaglebranch (Talk) 01:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, he looks to... white. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:38, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * All the markings need to be blended, as they're all hard-lines between the white and color leaving no sense of fur. Shading is also needed. And the pink of the inside of the ears needs to acctually be worked into the image, rather than just painted in. Very nice start, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I think he looks really cute(Bramble like cute:) but like Kitsu said the patches need to be blended so it looks more natural. Other than that, ditto to first line(btw, I really like the shade of green you used for the eyes. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Declined due to lack of progress. Will be archived shortly. If you get time to work on it, Eaglebranch, feel completely free to resubmit. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Mousewhisker - Declined
Okay, my second attempt at a pixel. This one's better, I think. I remembered to use the correct blank this time at least!! Thoughts? (ps. I couldn't find what colour his eyes are supposed to be - I don't think it says - but I thought blue looked better than amber) --Sandstar12 19:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

This one is really great! But its up to gorse and kitsu.--Redflare 19:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Redflare x--Sandstar12 21:03, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, it looks fine other than the fact that the female blank was used. But good job! --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 12:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

darn-it! I didn't notice any difference between the blanks...Do I need to re-do this on the male blank? (don't worry - one day I will get it right :])--Sandstar12 15:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

No just take out the spek from the eye.--Redflare 19:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, think I see the difference now. I re-uploaded. --Sandstar12 20:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, you need to erase a few pixels, then the eye will be male. But otherwise this looks great. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 01:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the positive comments - now I just need to wait and see whether it's accepted.--Sandstar12 19:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * A very nice start, but not yet ready to be accepted. It needs to be shaded to give the image a 3D quality, and the pink on the inside of the ear looks painted on and needs to be worked into the image fully. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Is this any better? --Sandstar12 17:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's improved, but take a good look at Bramble's works, and you'll see more what I'm talking about. You'll want to be careful not to smudge the outlines. You're getting there, just a bit further and it'll be great. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Now? --Sandstar12 13:32, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Mabye add some highlights.--Whenyouknowthenotestosing 16:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I added some more lighter areas. I don't want to add too much more shading or highlighting though because he could start to look like a grey cat, not a white cat with grey spots, if you see what I mean...well, I tried--Sandstar12 17:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Is this okay now? Or do I still need to do more?--Sandstar12 18:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately... I can't approve it as that character... You're right in saying that it looks like a grey cat, now. You over-killed on the patch blending... and I think you worked on a single layer in the graphics program to do your shading... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I agree 100% I have a question though: If I put the pixel back into the eye to make it female, change the eye colour to a yellow shade and smooth out the shading to make it a more consistent colour could I put thsi up for approval as Greypool? She's described as a grey-white she-cat with yellow eyes. This should be declined though.-- Sandy 18:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll add a new approval section for the modified image. This can be declined now. :)-- Sandy 19:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

My brain isn't working today - GreyMIST not Greypool! Greypool needs an elder blank...anyway. -- Sandy 19:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Declined. Will archive shortly. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Brackenfur - Declined



 * It doesn't matter to me about Sandstorm anyway...I've created Brackenfur since I know no one is working on a picture for him. The only problem is there wasn't anything about his eye color on his page so I didn't color that. I'm looking over my books now to see if I can find it anywhere though. Make comments as you please. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 02:54, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I think you should blend the tabby markings a little. Plus, what color are his eyes?Mallinois 22:30, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Do generic cat amber, as Kitsu has said before. Also the shading needs to stay on the line of the blank, instead of being wavy like it is now. But this is quite a good start, just needs minor tweaking. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 23:07, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Shading wavy? I don't get what you mean by that but I'll still blend and make the eyes amber.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The tabby markings look... strange. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:14, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I reuploaded Brackenfur. I smooth the tabby markings into the shading and kinda recolored him. I'm not sure why, but I think the other color was better. You guys tell me which was better for his pelt, I can always go back to it.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 06:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

The pelt color looks good. But the tabby markings need to be a bit lighter - see Brambleclaw, Dustpelt and Feathertail pics so you can look at the minimal contrast between the markings and the pelt. Also, refer to those pics when actually drawing the tabby markings, because they need to be more varied and unique...all you have right now are squiggly lines. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

He looks like someone spilled burnt spaghetti on him. definetly need to fix the tabby markings.^-^Mallinois 15:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

1. It looks like someone dipped a paintbrush in dark red paint and streaked his pelt with it. 2. If you look at the top of his head, you'll see there's a very light patch. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

That looks awesome, not quite the way I imagined him but still 97.115.120.104 16:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Here's my newest update for Brackenfur. I looked at my old Squirrelflight one for reference. The tabby markings are different and I changed the shading. Everything is more blended and smudge together to make it more in tone.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 17:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Better, but the tip of the ear needs to be brightened up a bit. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 17:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * A very nice bit of work, just a few improvements. The first thing that I notice many people have commented on, and that's the tabby markings. They just don't like like they're acctually a part of the pelt. Then the ear pink. Unlike GB, I acctually think the bottom needs to get blended in better so it's not glaring unnatural pink. And then the shading needs to get amped up, but get the tabby sorted first. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Right on it. I did everything you said even though you said try the tabby markings first. I think I'm improving with tabby markings too. The ear is darken as well and the shading is also redone. Comment please-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 00:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The improvements are looking great. Now it's just time to finish out the blending on the shading, and spread the shading over the whole picture (the head has been completely untouched by it). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Just to let everyone know I shall probably be away for about a week or two. Though a week is the least amount of time I'd give. So if this gets moved I under stand. Just to inform everyone. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll decline just to clean things up and you can resubmit when you return. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Blanks - For Approval


I'm back! This time I'm trying to contribute with these medicine cat blanks. I made them look as realistic as I could, and tried to stick with the style of the previous blanks. And, as trivia, the herb that the medicine cat is carrying is coltsfoot! Well...if one were to color the flower yellow. XD But either way, constructive criticism is welcome. I hope these are fine! C: --Hazelflower 04:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Me likey! --Spottedleaf x firestar 11:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool! The coltsfoot was definately a nice touch!-- J K  O  13:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

First of all, there already are medicine cat blanks up for approval. The coltsfoot was nice, but these blanks look a bit manga-ish. Good effort though. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know there couldn't be more than one up for approval at a time!! I'm sorry. D: Also, do you have any suggestions, perhaps? It'd be more helpful if you were to tell me how to make them look more realistic, rather than just saying they look mangaish, ya know? But I really appreciate the honesty. :D --Hazelflower 20:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, the eyes need to be a bit bigger, and maybe even out the facial features, so the forehead isn't so big? --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 00:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

There can be more than one of a certain blank for approval at a time; just because one is already p, doesn't mean that another can't be posted.–– Σulãlíã 459 678 00:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I think Kitsu is going to deal with this problem soon, that way there won't be any arguements. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * And also I would like to tie in with Eu, the person said they'd like to decline the art themselves so really its ok for another blank to be up. Kitsu just hasn't been up to update it so I see nothing wrong with it all. Also GB and FB I know you guys are helping out alot while Kitsu is away, but you don't have to act like you guys are the leaders of this. I'm just saying how it feels to me. Anyway...I personally love the blank Hazelflower. Great job and they do seem realistic. Maybe you could even redo some of the other bases, you know? -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 04:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, FC. I really appreciate it! C: And I hope it didn't cause any controversy...? I just wanted to make some blanks. XD~ And thanks, Shim-Shim. I appreciate the compliment! :D -Hazelflower 04:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Update! Okay, so I made the foreheads smaller like you (sort of) suggested, FC. I tried to move the facial features around, but it just looked really weird to me. Either way, I hope it looks a little better now. -Hazelflower 00:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Let's get this party started... Very nice work. But not 100% set for approval, as I have a few tweaks. They all probably stem from what I think is a usual Anime-style of drawing that you have. It's not necessarily anything bad, just some tweaks I'd like to see to get them to fit a bit more with existing blanks and amp up the realism a touch. You've got a great start, though. I like the head as it is now. You might want to raise the eyes a pixel or so, but I don't know if that would acctually help deal with the high cranium. It might acctually be best as it is now. Now... Something about the far-foreleg is weird to me... I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's just that it starts so far forward compared to the other. You've acctually got the same effect happening on the far-hind, also. And the tail seems... a tad long. You've got a stellar start, however. OH! And for the longhairs... Can we get a touch of shaggy on the head and legs? Not too much, just a bit! Like at teh elbow and knee and between the ears. Not too much, just a little so they look less sleek. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

All right! :D I worked really hard on improving these, and I hope that they're to everyone's liking. I even moved the eyes up a pixel (and the cat's left eye closer to the other just a bit) and I quite like the result. C: -Hazelflower 22:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They're looking great. I still have one thing I think needs work. It's more pronounced on the shorthair... But there's just something a little weird about the connection of the neck to the body. You're getting there, and it's looking excellent. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Kitsu! Sorry I haven't said anything in, what, a few days? School was busy this week, but now it's the weekend! I'll give an update as soon as I've fixed it. C: -Hazelflower 20:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Update again!! Okay, so, I finally found the time to tweak it just a tad. I brought in the back neckline a bit on the short-hair bases, and I moved down the long-hair back just by about a pixel (but I'm debating on just moving it back up). So, I hope this update is all right! -Hazelflower 02:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Lionblaze - For Approval
Hi. I'm only just getting the hang of this! Here's my first contribution, Lionblaze! I did as best as I could, I hope it's OK... --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 19:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC) Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan

Okay, there are a few things I would say about this: Firstly, I would personally say that LIonblaze has a slightly darker pelt colour than this. More of an orangey-brown than a sandy yellow. Also, there needs to be more tabby markings and they some more shading needs to be added. I would also make his eyes more of an orange too. His description says: 'golden tabby tom with amber eyes' --Sandstar12 19:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the tip, i will try and make it better! --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 20:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan

Is that OK? Or should I add more shading? --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 20:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

This is better than it was, I'm sure with the extremely high standards here that there is still some more work to do though. I would advise that you add some more shading and maybe tone down the orange stripes a little so that they are a darker shade of teh pelt colour and not so bright. Also, his ear needs to be a more pinkish colour, not yellow and needs to be blended in. This is a good improvement though--Sandstar12 20:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

There - I tried toimprove it. Is it better? ^_^ --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 21:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Its looking better, a little more shading could be added too. Remember to blur them together to make the colors smooth. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 04:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

It actually needs a lot of shading. I can barely see it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 05:16, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, the tabby markings are very sharp against the pelt. They need to be blended. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 05:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, OK, sheesh! By the way, how do you blend it? I made it using paint, so.... --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 13:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

First off, the colors are done very well. :D If you're using a program like paint, you could use progressively lighter (or darker) colors next to each other to show shading/blending. I'm not very good at explaining things, but I hope it helps either way!! -Hazelflower 15:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm... Paint doesn't have blurtool, so it's very hard to use paint and make images. I used to use just Paint, and it was a nightmare! Now I color my images with paint, and edit them with GIMP. Anyway, you should probably download GIMP. Here's a link: <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B  15:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

This isn't blending. All you did was outline the tabby markings. Now they look strange, and they're still sharply defined from his pelt. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:20, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I know, i know. that was with paint. I'll try downloading that GIMP you were on about. --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 15:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, I used GIMP, and this is what I got! --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 15:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * GB take it easy this is Leopardstar's first work. As for Lepardstar, I see some of the shading and don't forget to add some to his back. I don't see any shading at all. You're improving a lot. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 16:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Um, as far as I know, there is no "taking it easy on people"; I'm just telling her what is needed. Anyway, maybe just a little bit more blending, and the shading we all know and love. ;) <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'll get to it! --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 16:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

There! Please comment! --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 08:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Um... you never re-uploaded him. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 14:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe in a firm approach of 'no mercy'. If you submit here, the art is subjected to the expected standards. Respect and politeness are to be used to explaining the points for improvement, however. Now... The color choices I like, but shading and blending are lacking, as others have said... You do have a great start and it's a well done bit of work for it being your first go at this, but I do have one thing to say that the others haven't. It concerns the way the tabby markings are drawn, and the fact that Garfield-tabby won't be accepted as long as I have any say in this project. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

OK.... So, different markings, and more shading and blending? I will try! --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 14:57, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Crowfrost- Withdrawn by User
Okay, I brought him back with blending! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 05:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't see it.--Whenyouknowthenotestosing 06:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

It does look a little blended, but I'd advise using smudge tool for shading and blending. Blur tool (which I am guessing you used) doesn't cover much area.-- J K  O  13:28, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

KK, I'm on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I dunno...the patches still look really painted on to me. I don't know what everyone else thinks though.--Sandstar12 12:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I have such trouble commenting on this one because of the layout of the white... I know too much about cat genetics and pigmentation to be truly easy on this one... The placement of the white makes me twitch because of how much their is (cat color technically comes as if poured in from the top. But the hunters do firmly ignore this fact. See Blackstar and his unnatural black feet on an otherwise white cat.). I do agree with Sandstar, though. The white patches really don't feel like a part of the pelt proper. Maybe experiment with some smudging and try and get a sense of the longhaired fur in the markings. If you look at this picture, you might see what I'm talking about. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I used the smudge tool just a bit. How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The patches sort of remind me of clouds..-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 23:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They're still not quite right, GB... They need more work. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm focusing all of my attention on Briarkit. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Foxpaw- Declined

 * I created Foxpaw nearly a month ago and finally decided to get him uploaded. The eyes are amber just like Kitsu said to do for cats that's eye color haven't been mentioned. I always pictured him with green eyes for some reason...but enough of that, make comments as you please. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 06:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I think this is very good. I also pictured him with green eyes though!--Sandstar12 16:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah maybe it'll be revealed in later books.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 17:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a nice start... But I'm going to say two words that I say all the time: Blend and Shade. I mention blending because none of the markings look like they've been properly integrated into the pelt. And I mention shading because you've only got a shaded line down the back. Nice color choices, though. It's a good start and just needs a bit of fine tuning to be good to go. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Here's the newest Foxpaw. I was wondering, if his eyes will finally be revealed in later books, would I have to reupload him? Anyway, I did what you said Kitsu and blended and shaded more. I don't think my new idea with blending works so well with apprentices, but I'll find one eventually. He is my first try with an apprentice after all.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 00:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If the eyes are revealed someday, it's just a little tweak and we upload a new copy over. More blending on the shading. Also, there are points in the outline where it's gotten screwed up that need to get fixed. It's a good start, just a bit more work to do. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:43, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. Just to let everyone know I shall probably be away for about a week or two. Though a week is the least amount of time I'd give. So if this gets moved I under stand. Just to inform everyone.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Declined for clutter reduction purposes. You can start fresh and resubmit when you return. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Crowfeather- for Approval

 * Many might remember the first image I tried out when I first joined. I did Crowfeather along with Squirrelflight. Though Squirrelflight was made around the same time and approved, I never got around to edit poor Crowfeather. Since I finally have time on my hands I've reuploaded him. I remembered Kitsu saying I needed to re-add the line art back to him. So here's Crowfeather with the lineart back again and the same coloring. Comment please :) -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 06:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

That's really good! I couldn't do better than that! >_< --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 13:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

The shading on his back looks... awkward. Also, the pink part of his ear looks like a perfume bottle instead of a triangle. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah I remembered Kitsu saying something about it too. Well now here's the update version. I redid his ear and decided on my new way with shading. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 17:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, now he looks like someone stuck their hands in like, five different types of black paint, and rubbed their hands all over him. He needs to be one color, with shading. The ear looks better, though. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 17:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, GB, with some blending his hindquarter will be wonderfully shaded and look nicely 3D. Now, Shim, you just need to get the head and forequarters in the same way and blend everything together. The ear... I would love to see less pink because dark furred cats have dark skin. And the pink nose... Please do away with it, as it looks... rather out of place. Great improvements so far, I look forward to seeing you take it the rest of the way. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Got it Kitsu. Here's the new uploaded version of Crowfeather. I did all what you said, but I think I took out too much pink. Comments please ^_^ -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 00:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think more pink can come out. I hate bright pink ears. They look terribly unnatural. Google some black cat pictures and you'll see what I mean. The hindleg looks great, now blend some more on the forequarters, try and get a more defined shoulder going on, and add shading to the head. You're doing great. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:49, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. Just to let everyone know I shall probably be away for about a week or two. Though a week is the least amount of time I'd give. So if this gets moved I under stand. Just to inform everyone.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 02:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be leaving this one, just so that no one starts their own version of him. This one is darn-near approved, and I'd have to have the work duplicated. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Whitewing - For Approval
My second coloured image. Tell me if I need more shading! --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 15:28, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

She looks too white. I think it needs more shading to make it look more 3-D. Plus, the inside of the ear should have a color(I reccomend pink) In my mind, I always imagined Whitewing's eyes to be a darker green.Mallinois 15:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks, I'll start improving. There, I made a new version! Is it any better? --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 15:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think shading is supposed to stretch out to her neck like that. Also, the eyes looks gray. She has green eyes. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

And I just noticed, she has a blue line under her. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Her eyes AREN'T grey! They're Olive Green! *sighs* Can't I get anything right? --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 15:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, is that better? --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 15:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I think that when the shading stretched out out along the neck looked great. I t made Whitewing look more muscular. The eyes don't look gray to me. plus, have you tried blending the ear? If you use paint(which Ihave) let the image sit for awwhile and the program blends the image itsself.Mallinois 18:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

So shading on the neck? I KNEW that was a good idea, but GB thought otherwise... *sigh* --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 14:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * GB's opinion of how things should look does not always line up with those of the folks running the project. The image needs more shading. It needs to be over the whole image. This means no leaving out the head ;) I'd also like to see the ear pink blended a bit more. Nice start. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Just a bit more shading, and, yes Kitsu, the pink in the ear needs some blending. Also, the shading needs to be blended. therwise, great job! F  x  C  18:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Kit's Eyes
I know how Kitsu said to make a catw ith unknown eye color amber, but all kits (I read this somewhere) have blue eyes, so if a kit has an unknown eye color, make it blueMallinois 20:04, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Um... that's unrealistic. If all kits have blue eyes, explain how when they get older, they have green or amber eyes. :p <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually I think that's true. Aren't all human babies born with blue eyes? I think it's just like that until they develop their new eye color. I know whenever my dog has puppies, they have blue-ish eyes when they first open, but they develop to become brown eyes. C: I could be wrong, though. XD -Hazelflower 04:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Mallinois is actually right about kits having blue eyes after they first open them. I've read this in many books. Most kits eyes change about 3 weeks of age. The change is completed after atleast 4 months. Once they change that's the eye color they'll keep for life. Though some keep their kitten blueness which I love a lot, but its not common only by pedigree breeding. Though of course we are speaking of the warriors world, but tabbies make quiet an exception to this since they can have blue eyes too even without being pedigree.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 05:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The Warriors world has never paid any attention to realistic cat genetics or physical development (IE: Firestar and Sandstorm are genetically unable to produce non-red offspring. And even assuming that Sandstorm is really a tortie who's not showing much evidence of her genetic structure, they still can't produce a brown she-cat.). But there is absolute truth in that kittens (and puppies, as a side note) are born with blue eyes. In fact, it's also true of humans. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:09, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Kitsu's right. All kittens are born with blue eyes. Then their eyes slowly develop their natural pigmentation as they grow older, usually around six weeks or so, I believe, though it can take longer. I'm not entirely sure though, so don't quote me until I can find a source. Gorse 04:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Voletooth - for approval
Okay, I tried an image of Voletooth. Constructive critisism welcome :)--Sandstar12 21:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

This brown has a slight tan tinge to it. Also, there's something in the background that looks like the shading of a white cat. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I sorted the background and darkened his colour a bit. --Sandstar12 12:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

That's really good! And reallistic! --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 15:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Leopardheart--Sandstar12 15:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm... you could also touch up the pink part of the ear a bit. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I increased the pink colour--Sandstar12 16:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

The color was fine; it's the fact that the ear looks like you just stuck it on and blended. It needs to be more of a triangle shape. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 17:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, how about now?--Sandstar12 18:46, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a good start, but there's still some work to do. The shading needs to be completed (why none on the muzzle?) and the shoulder needs some definition. The ear pink needs some blending, and the shade could be toned down (really bright pink never looks quite right). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I sorted the ear, added some shading around the muzzle and shoulder areas as well as some highlights on the flank and middle chest area. I also blended this shading more thoroughly. -- Sandy 19:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I think its a beautiful pic, Sandy. The shading really gives it a 3D touch and blend. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 19:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Bramble!-- Sandy 20:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Anything else needs doing?-- Sandy 21:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Join Request - Hazelflower
I'd really love to join this project. I thoroughly enjoy drawing and coloring, and I'd love to contribute as much as I can! :D -Hazelflower 23:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Since no one commented in here, I will. It'll be great to have you, Hazelflower. Your art is really good. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 19:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to start work on a picture project, and as soon as I have time for an edit to the mainpage (I've been run ragged the last week) I'll get you added. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thank you, Bramble! And thank you too, Kitsu. C: Take as much time as you need. I hope things get less hectic for you soon!! -Hazelflower 20:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

What Happens...
Now that Flamekit is approved, what'll happen when he becomes an apprentice? 97.115.120.104 00:04, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Then it'll be time for a Flamepaw picture, I think!! :D -Hazelflower 00:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, a browse inside LS on Amazon revealed that Flamekit is now Flamepaw. But it's probably best to wait until the book comes out to work on him. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, it's perfectly alright to work inside the released canon. And when the time comes, we'll add additional images. Eventually, I'd like to have character art for all ranks a character has appeared in through the books. I would not suggest working in advance of the book release. What if something like a grievous injury or an interesting new scar happens during the course of the book? [Randomly taking the time to say this while popping in during the 5 minuets she's acctually got] <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Moonflower?
Would we consider Bluestar's mother as an elder or a warrior? Or a queen? Because I'd like to do her and I don't know if I should use the warrior base. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 23:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Anyone out there? -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I'm not sure about this - we don't know whether she ever became an elder do we? I don't think the books ever say her status when she died so I would personally picture her as a warrior unless it states otherwise. -- Sandy 20:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

We practically need a genetic image or those situations when we're just not sure... Maybe someday. And the matter bears discussion... I don't like the idea of just guessing she died in combat without ever retiring. She lived in times of relative peace from what I can tell. The books chronicle times of upheaval, not the status quo of the clans... Anyone else wanna weigh in on this question? <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm... looks like something to ask the authors at the next chat. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Graymist - For approval


Okay, here's an image of Greymist. (RiverClan warrior) -- Sandy 19:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Graymist is a pale grsay cat, not gray and white.See Allegiances Dark River

I know. I have read the allegiances before I chose her as the character you know...I didn't just guess... The whole point of this image is that it was TOO grey to be a grey and white cat...-- Sandy 21:17, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

You need to deal with that white tinge. Otherwise, I think it looks pretty nice. Maybe you could touch up the ear a little. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, she's definitely grey now-- Sandy 07:48, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I also sorted the ear a little to make it more triangular and natural looking-- Sandy 15:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

She could use some tabby markings. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:33, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

she is not a tabby, its fine.--Redflare 22:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes she is. See the allegiances for Outcast. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:54, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

She needs no tabby markings...the description of her on her page on this site is of a 'pale grey she-cat'. Is there anything else anyone thinks needs doing though?-- Sandy 21:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Same Image
I was thinking...Why not use the same image for two articles, like Brambleclaw and Tigerstar, Dustpelt and Gorseclaw, Nightcloud and Hollyleaf, or Tinypaw and Whitewing apprentise

It's just not the way it goes. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:55, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, they can't possibly look the same. Besides, whitewing's a warrior, and hollyleaf would be longhaired. 97.115.120.104 01:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and another thing. Brambleclaw and Dustpelt are both listed as dark brown tabby toms, and we still made pictures for them.

Do they have the same eye color? :P -- Alice 16:07, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Um..Yes. Hawktail 01:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm 100% against reusing of tabby images. Why? Because no two tabbies have the same pattern of stripes. The same goes for bi-colors (and white cats). The chances of identical patches are insurmountable. By this time, for the sake of consistency, it makes sense to continue with single images even for solid cats (this way shades and subtly and extra effort to infuse images with touches of personality via clever coloring and shading is also possible, too). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Queen blanks- Declined
I need help..........[[User:Mallinois/ The Rare Dog 00:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Stop! You never uploade an image. That's why it won't work! Now, try uploading the image first. And fix your sig! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

This looks unnatural (no offence), it's to large, one of the back legs is to big, and some are to skinny. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

How do you fix it? I'll work on the legs.Mallinois 01:05, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

How do you make it smaller? I made it in paint, and saved in photoshop, so how do you make it smaller?User:Mallinois 01:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Are they supposed to look pregnant? 97.115.120.104 01:53, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I made it that way. Anyway, How do you make the image smaller!User:Mallinois 02:02, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow. No one is commenting. I'll just fix the ears. They look wierd.User:Mallinois 14:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Mallinois, I don't think this will be approved unless it has a lot of work done to it(no offence). Its too unnatural looking. Maybe if you made the whole pic smaller, straightened the queen, and maybe make the fore legs higher up and the hind legs more stretched out, like the warrior bases, it would look better. Again, no offence, thanks for attempting a queen base, I would really like to get started on a queen, like Daisy. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 19:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

If you made this with photoshop, then I think I might be able to tell you how to make the image smaller. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 19:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * This is the best I can do to make the image smaller at the moment. Next time Mallinois, when you do and image in paint try changing the canvas size so it won't take up so much space. I know this image could have been a lot smaller.Trust me since I work in paint a lot when I'm not using GIMP.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I made it even smaller. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the amount of work you'll need to do to make this approvals is rather large. Right now the art style isn't anywhere near the level of realism we need. We thank you for the effort. I just have to decline image until you've had time to sort out the anatomy and realism of the image. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Gold rankings
Of all the approved images, on the discussion page, they put the rank as silver for the project character art. What do they they need to get gold? 97.115.120.104 02:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

"Gold. These articles have been voted into silver status, AND been a Feature Article for reasons OTHER than Content Drive." From the project page. swifty {ASTRX} 16:49, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Graystripe - Withdrawn By User
First try at a charart:) Criticizm welcome. Hawktail 21:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

This is fuzzy, and you made it with paint. You need to blend and shade, for this image needs a lot of work.User:Mallinois 21:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? Hawktail 22:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

a bit.User:Mallinois 22:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I think Greystripe would need the deputy blank because he's been a deputy at some point - you might want to check that with Kitsu though. Also, the shading needs to be blended in so that it looks like part of the coat-- Sandy 15:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Fixed some of the lineart that was affected. Hope it helps. Hawktail 18:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

The shading still needs a lot of work, and the pink ear looks really unatural-- Sandy 21:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * While I have a bit of time on here, the line art still seems a bit choppy. The image needs a lot of blending and shading. The pink does too because it doesn't look right. Also, Graystripe has a stripe going down his back so that does need to be added. And since Bramblclaw is deputy now...I'm not sure if Graystripe should be made with this base or not, because then Brambleclaw needs to be changed as well since he is deputy.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll be honest, this needs A LOT of shading. It also needs to be blended.-- Jakko 123  02:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Shade. Blend. And bring the lineart back completely. You've got a decent start, but without shading and blending I simply cannot approve this. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:09, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Withdrwaing 97.115.120.104 22:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Oops, srry, that was me. Hawktail 22:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Rainwhisker - For Approval
While I'm waiting on the conclusion on whethed I should do Moonflower as a warrior base or not, I did Rainwhisker. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:22, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool!I love it.-- Alice 01:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay I know what Kitsu's going to say, and I agree, too blue no offense.--Redflare 20:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I dunno - I like the colour actually...-- Sandy 17:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Might be my laptop screen, but I don't really think it's too blue... It looks like a very rich, deep gray to me... Could use a few highlights in addition to the shading it's got, though. Redflair... I'd prefer if I was left to draw my conclusions and people wouldn't put words in my mouth ;) Y'all can't see into my head, as I can't see into yours. Bramble... Might want to shade the muzzle, too. And blend the ear-pink some. Great start, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 22:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Sootfur - For approval
Here's a try at Sootfur.-- Jakko 123  21:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The blending you've done so far is beautiful! But don't be afraid to add more shading! Trust me, I know how you feel. But what's the worse that could happen, neh? Just think of where shading usually is on a cat; where the muscles are, etc. Also, consider which character you're doing. If you're doing a more muscular cat, go ahead and define those muscles! Go ahead and show what a tough warrior they are! Anyways, like I said, beautiful blending. C: Oh, and don't forget to add a triangle of color to that ear! -Hazelflower 22:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Ooops, I saw that too. Here's a new version, I did the shading in a style more like Bramble. You might need to stand up to see it though.-- Jakko 123  22:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blended in more-- Sandy 17:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Sandy's right. If you're using a program that has the smudge and blur tool, let me tell you that the combination of both of them has beautiful results. Also, I'd add a bit of shading to the head. You're getting there!! -Hazelflower 20:55, 19 November 2008 (UTC)