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Leadership Change
OKay if you haven't noticed, Darkhallows hasn't exactly been active lately. So the other leads and I decided it time for me to step up to be leader. My new deputy is Scarletwind, and for now Darkhallows will stay a SW. Just figured I'd share the news. 01:26, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congrats Scarletwind! 01:28, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Woo! Go Scarlet!!! Congrats! 01:29, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, so many leader changes since I joined..... But anyways, congrats on becoming Leader Iceheart, and congrats to Scarletwind too, you'll be great. ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  01:30, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congrats Scarletwind! You'll do awesome. I didn't want to say great cuz it sounded to plain. xP 01:38, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Wow.. Thanks, Iceheart. I'll do the best I can for the project. And congrats yourself, Iceheart. 01:40, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well, we'll miss having Darkhallows, but still, congrats you two! You'll make fine a leader and deputy! =) Shadewing  Blades of the Night  01:43, September 11, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Congrats, Iceheart and Scarletwind! ^-^ You'll be great as leader and deputy! :D Mi  st  y!  01:58, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Shadewing, Darkhallows is still here, just not leader or deputy. And you two deserve this! 02:02, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congrats Iceheart and Scarletwind! You'll both do great ;3 11:51, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations, Iceheart and Scarletwind! I know you guys will do awesome at this job. 14:18, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congrats Iceheart and Scarletwind! You guys will both do awesome. :3 14:23, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I've been expecing this for awhile. Congrats. ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 18:22, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations. I considered Darkhallows to be a good leader, I hope you live up to that as well. 20:51, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations both of you! You guys deserve it! 21:00, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations, Iceheart! And to you also, Scarletwind! You both will be great at your positions, I know it. :) 00:55, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Er, guys I was on the vacation list... something came up rather suddenly. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:10, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

I removed that after a week after the day you said you'd be back. We also decided that we'd give you until beginning of October to return. Iceheart said that she'd step down if you came back. 03:14, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Or I was on the vacation list, but it got removed along with the rest of the old ones.

Darkhallows, what Scarlet says is all true. I was in on that conversation. Welcome back, by the way. We only did it because PCA shouldn't go long without an active leader (vacation or not). 03:27, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Congrates to all!  ☮Owl      X      Glitter☮..    4EVER The Peace is Perfect☯  06:38, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

I said I'd be back Saturday, that was yesterday. I guess it could have meant last week, but I was in such a hurry that I forgot to elaborate. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 07:53, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Congrats, Icy and Scarletwind!- Kittycat79 aka Rowantail 10:58, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well cleary you should have elaborated. And yes i did say I'd step down if you came back to be an active leader. That means no more art declined due to lack of work. 23:39, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm fine with being a senior warrior, you guys think Iceheart will be a better leader than it's fine by me. I really don't have that much time to be on the wiki, nor do I read the books anymore. But, considering I wasn't able to work on anything, I can't see that it's my fault. Yeah, I've had a few images declined, I have things to do that take priority, school, my farm, social life, other hobbies, and obviously when my dad shows up saying to pack and get ready to go, adding "next" in front of Saturday isn't the first thing running through my mind. I guess it's a little disheartening when I don't get so much as a message filling me in that Iceheart has taken over. Honestly, I feel like everything done while I was a leader was done behind my back. "Hey, Kitsu and I were talking, we think..." "Scarletwind and I were talking..." shouldn't I be the one you all were brainstorming with? I guess I just feel like no one really wanted to talk with me. And admittedly, I'm a little embarrassed, I always tried to do what was right. I guess not. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 02:27, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darkhallows, stop. You are an amazing person. You shouldn't put yourself down just because something happened when you were gone. We (the senior warriors and leads) only did what we thought was the best for the wiki at the present moment. It's not like we're telling you "No, you can't you become our leader again." or something like that. We decided this JUST before you came back, actually. I wanted to get a hold of you myself, but, I thought it would seem awkward, considering we've never really talked. We still love and respect you to no end, Dark. 02:34, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well those were a couple of personal shots at me werent they? Nobody said you were a bad leader. You were/are a good leader. I stepped up because we thought you were gone. Scarletwind and i always talked, we are tight, we just wanted to improve the project, and Kitsu asked to be asked what she thought about tweak week. If it was really behind your back would i have asked at all or just put them into place? Yes we all have lives outside the wiki (i'd be sad if you didnt) But how hard is it to go on once a week to tweak an image? I guess a mesage letting you know just kind of got forgotten, like how you forgot to put 'next' infront of saturday. Like i said, it's your call on weather or not you still want to be leader. 02:35, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, that was wrong of me to say that. I think it would be best if you remained leader. I just wish I could have stepped down more gracefully xD. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 21:23, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, and theres still plently of grace. We'll have a red carpet and throw confetti and have one of those claps where one person starts slow and it builds up into a big roaring applause. And you can take a bow. See? Oodles of grace. 22:54, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Did this become a rule?
Some point during Tweak Week, there was a big debate about redoing. I remember reading that either Scarletwind or Iceheart said to not tweak an image if the original artist is still a member of the project. Did this become a rule? ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 18:27, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I don't remember there ever being such a discussion. I have no idea but it doesn't really seem like anyone pays attention, really. Especially if they never knew about said discussion. 19:44, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Go a head and redo it if it means that it'll look better. The whole point of the project is to provide chararts on the pages that look good. 21:53, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I don't have an image in mind, Scarletwind. I just remembered that statement someone proposed somewhere in the middle. ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 00:22, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Cherrykit Tabby?
I don't know if all ginger cats are supposed to be tabby I think you guys had a discussion about it so if they are are kits supposed to be tabby to, 'cause Cherrykit isn't a tabby. I don't know if you are planning to make her a tabby but just wanted to ask. Btw feel free to archive this. Sorry if this was a bother. 21:06, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I added her to the tweaking list. Thanks! 21:47, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

To answer your question, yes, it's been decided that all ginger cats are getting stripes. No matter how old or young they are. I'm not completely sure about when they're described as a synonym of ginger, like orange or something, but I THINK they get stripes too. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:01, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ginger and orange, I think, and creams were on the table for consideration but I believe were turned down. 22:13, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

oh ok np. Glad i could help! ^^ 23:33, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think orange is pretty much a synonym for ginger, just like a bright ginger. 00:25, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can I Join?
I need to know what program to use but you guys can tell me. I would LOVE to join.

Thanks!

☺Brackenfur66☺ 02:28, September 12, 2011 (UTC)Brackenfur66☺Brackenfur66☺ 02:28, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

A lead will add you in soon. Welcome to the project! There are lots of programs that you could use, but the most common people use are Gimp, Pixlr, SumoPaint, and Photoshop. There are plenty of other programs you could use too though. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  04:51, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you in now. Remember to read over the guidelines before commenting on an image. 06:03, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hi its Acornfur i was in the PCA and i was an apprentice and now my name is gone. What happened?

Acornfur 20:21, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

So do I get a mentor?

Brackenfur66

No we don't have mentors for PCA. Wild fire Hazelx Thorn!  21:06, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

And to Acornfur, you were probably removed due to inactivity. But we'll be happy to add you back in :) 21:28, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

I guess I'll start

☺Brackenfur66☺ 22:04, September 12, 2011 (UTC)Brackenfur66☺Brackenfur66☺ 22:04, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

But Brackenfur, if you do happen to have any questions, feel free to ask a member of PCA, such as myself! We are always willing to help. 22:15, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Question about Honeypaw (SC). And suggestion to Sandypaw
This is also a suggestion to Sandypaw. Ok, so since we don't know the genders of either Honeypaw or Sandypaw, I was thinking that we could make an alternate with them in the other gender's lineart. And for the Honeypaw question, I have reserved them, and is it alright if I post it. (I considered Honeypaw a her, and Sandypaw a tom.) 20:25, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me, but you'd better wait to see what Ice or Scarlet think. There are typically ways to tell the gender of the cats in the graphic novels, so we could just go by that assumption. Or make them male, and if they turn out to be she-cats just add an eyelash. Ta-da? Personally I assumed them both to be she-cats, as their names seemed more feminine. 20:57, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

We do know the genders the she-cats have eyelashes and the toms don't, but I like this idea for cats like Vixenkit or others like her/him. Wild fire Hazelx Thorn!  21:04, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

They're going to be in two more books, I'm sure we'll find out the genders then. We don't need to do it for both blanks, if it turns out we guessed wrong, it is an easy fix. 21:43, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

You are right Ivy, and we dont make alts for wrong gender. Just wait until they get a gender, or they just dont get an image. 23:54, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Tutorials
Okay everyone if you haven't noticed the other leads and i are putting together a new tutorial. In a couple of days/weeks, one we have the basic structure, we'll open it so warriors can edit it and improve it however they can. But for the time being, just the leads. But can anyone guess what that means for personal tutorials? Thats right we're getting rid of them. So if you have a personal tutorial, please start putting the delete tags on the images and clearing out the page. Its for the good of the project. 01:20, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

And it'll make the sever work better so changes will actually show up on chararts! ;) throws confetti 01:22, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Instead of deleting all the existing ones, though, do you think you should give people a chance to link to a picture if it's in one composite (instead of ten different images) that could be benificial? Some of the ones on there probably could have been taken difrectly from someone's tutorial, just sayin'. It's looking good so far, however 01:45, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

When we open it to everyone, you can show the picture to a lead and we can approve it to go in the tutorail. 01:48, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I have no idea how to add the delete tags on images. Is it the same for pages? <font color="saffron" style="background:crimson">☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 21:37, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it is exaclty done in the same fashion. 21:40, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

So we are getting rid of the personal tutorials? Can someone also give me the link of the project tutorial so I can see it? 03:55, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Erm...Spottedleaf
I have reverted her oldest mc image to the Charcat of this page and this one. Because her current mc images looked very stupid (no offence to the redo-er/tweaker), and her old style one was much better. (very dumb image I reverted over): - Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:Navyl">aka Rowantail 10:02, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Kittycat, you can't just do that. You have to ask for permission first, before you can revert it. It's pretty unfair.....The tweaker worked hard to make Spottedleaf match her description. 10:39, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Kittycat, you're not aloud to do that. And don't be rude. 12:07, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Why would you even do that? The new one is the one that matches her description. Shadewing  Blades of the Night 12:21, September 14, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The heck? Boy, I'd imagine how your making Icestorm feeling right now. You couldve just asked a lead to tweak it again for you or somethin' -- 14:25, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Kitty, I reverted your revert back to what it should be. You're not allowed to do something like that just because you don't like it. Do it again, and you could get into trouble. 15:10, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Kittycat, be nice. You could have politly talked to a lead on their userpage and explained your reasons. She matches her description and is an acceptable charart, that's all that matters. 15:21, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly. Well said, Ivy. It was re-did for that exact reason. Spottedleaf has such a descriptive description, that it needed to match. 15:23, September 14, 2011 (UTC)