Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

Ebonyclaw ~ Silver Nomination
I worked on her article a bit more, and here she is. Comments? 01:34, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Whoop whoop! Go females with -claw in their name! :3 Expand The Rescue and is it possible to find one or two more quotes? Otherwise it looks fine.

Is there a main quote that describes her personality more, like one of the ones that said she was a good warrior despite being a kittypet? 05:17, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Yep, Ebonyclaw is awesome. x3 I can't expand The Rescue anymore, sorry. Those were the only times she was mentioned/seen. Switched the main quote and I am now looking for more. (quotes are my worst enemy o.o) 02:07, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Added a new quote. >.<  22:53, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 04:03, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Vote is up! 00:05, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Macgyver - Silver Nomination
I rewrote some of his history, added a main quote, and three supporting quotes. Comments? 04:45, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Can you try expanding the last paragraph of his history? Looks great! 06:16, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything to expand on, though, the fact I'm trying to read that part off a nook surely doesn't help. :P 04:10, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Honestly I don't see anything to improve on. Well done!

Chez, please don't comment if your going to say it's nice, it's unneeded. And if you don't comment they know it's fine. (No offence) 00:03 Mon Mar 5

CBV? 04:03, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Vote's up! 00:05, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Adding Ages to Character Charts?
Hey everyone~ I'm here to do what I do: make suggestions.

I'm of the opinion that, for characters we have this information on anyway, we should include ages on charcats. (For dead cats, it'd be the age they died at.)

In example, on Firestar's chart it'd say that he is approximately 7 years of age.

We'd only do this for characters we know the ages of, without guessing at it, and doing this would allow us to provide even more information on characters than we already do. Not to mention, with out handy Events Timeline, it'd be a snap.

Comments? 00:15, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I love this idea Shelly! But of course, only some cats will get ages. You have my support. 00:37, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, only some cats: the major characters. I like this idea. 00:38, 25, 02, 2012

I like it! 8D Where would it be added though? Just on the Charcat? I think thatd be the best place. And can we just put unknown for the age, rather than leaving it off? Anons will probably eventually start to ask why there's no ages on some, but I think it'd be fine if it just said unknown. But anyways, great idea. ^^ 00:39, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

^^ Yeah. It'l bring up contributive edits for sure. 00:41, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like this too! 8D I agree with Paleh for it to be on the charcat. @Rowan, this isn't about getting edits up, but for improving the articles. 00:44, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

-Shall be the pessimistic one- While this is a good idea, don't you think it'd be a bit odd to add in ages of only a few characters, meanwhile about maybe 65% - 75% of the characters would be missing this information? Only few characters would have this available information, thus I'm not convinced of making it a part of a characters article.

There's also the bit about years. Since all character articles use the terms used within the books, wouldn't it be odd to use a "human term"? An easy substitute is that would be using the term, "moon", however that'd also add a bit more precision to our estimates. And even with the timeline, I feel like we'd still be guessing at the age of a particular cat.

Anyways, my little outtake on this idea. Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea, but I don't think we should carry out given the pros and cons presented currently. 03:42, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I understand your concerns, and I'll carefully debunk them in order:

1: How many of our character articles ever have everything there may be to have on them? Some have post-death residence, some don't, all depending on whether or not we actually know where they ended up when they died. This is the same exact concept. Nothing different. Making it a part of the character articles will allow us to provide all of the information we have on characters, which is our job.

2: Sure, we can go with moons if you're concerned about terminology. But I think approx. years or even approx. seasons would work as well. Not everything we do on here has to follow Clan vernacular.

3: Our timeline has the information down as best as we know it, which is the best that the books provide, which is as accurate as it's going to get. We know that Firestar is 7, nearly 8. Dovewing and Ivypool are both 1, nearly 2. When Lionheart died, he was approximately 5.

I still think that this is a good idea, in short. 04:13, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Strange. I suggested this months ago and it got shot down :S  04:37, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I refuse to be shot down. ಠ益ಠ 04:38, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

XD We all love Shelly's argument mode. But, this is a great idea. In my opinion, this could actually really improve the articles. And maybe, when they find out all these ages, people will stop tormenting Firestar's age xD 09:31, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, Shelly. Dat face. Both Shelly and Atelda have good points. If we decide to go through with this it would be a terrific addition to character pages. 01:31, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Shelly's points have proven that this is still in the running for going in the charcats. I agree still. 01:35, 03, 03, 2012

I agree with this idea. 14:56, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

So shall this go to a vote or can we just do it? 01:48, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

It's a simple matter to resolve, but shall the ages be in moons or year? Also, we have a citation (how to cite it will be a different matter if decided on)? Otherwise, we need only to add it to the template and add it to the characters. 01:57, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I think moons, with years in parenthesis. Or seasons would work better, even... And yeah, citations are important. Adding it to the templates should be easy, too. 02:02, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sol's Father - Silver Nomination
Sol's father wins Parent of the Year. It isn't like I, uh, already had the information needed for this in the back of my mind thanks to a certain other nomination. Sarcasm aside, I rewrote the history and added quotes. His article was already fairly complete, so...yeah. Let me know if you want me to change the main quote. Comments? 02:00, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about this, guys, my browser bugged up on me. Dx 02:01, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Can you switch the main quote to a different one, possibly? That one seems more like a Cinders quote then one for Sol's Father. I mean, yeah, it's got good information, but, it just doesn't seem like a good main quote. The other ones you have on there are excellent, and the article is very well detailed for him only appearing a few pages. 21:03, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Cloudy. About the main quote, I was sort of thinking that as I put it up, but I decided to leave it in on the off chance someone else might think it worked. Dunno if this new main quotes is any better. It shows what a loving parent he was. While I'm here, I might as well mention there aren't any other quotes--any of the others I saw would just be...excessive, decadent? The rest is just Cinders complaining about what a good-for-nothing he is, and the article really only needed one of those, to show their relationship. 03:28, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

His page looks good to me. Maybe reword 2nd paragraph? 00:23, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 02:08, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 04:03, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Vote's up! 00:05, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Wing Shadow Over Water ~ Silver Nomination
I kid you not, there is nothing more that can be done with this article. I've maxed out everything, and there are only a few times where she speaks. Comments? 22:26, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

You're right. =) It's all good. 23:18, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 04:03, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Vote's up! 00:05, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Something Of Importance
Hey, everyone. This is pretty important, so you might want to take a read.

I was just going through some articles and I checked Dustpelt's page, seeing that there was a missing citation. I decided, on a whim, to go through and check the other citations to make sure they matched up with the books.

Only one out of six was factual. The rest were fabricated.

This got me paranoid about the citations on the descriptions of every other character page. ... I know it's a big thing to do, but I think the project needs to start the process of going through all of the character pages and checking to validate citations. I'm sorry, it's a big task, but it needs to be done. Withthe whole of the project working on it, it shouldn't be too hard.

Likewise, I think that from here on before a page is given silver status, all citations must be validated by someone other than the person that wrote the up. Just a suggestion. 06:13, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

We should go over all the citations within the articles if there are false references. And it shouldn't be so much of a bother to look at the citations during a nomination. Good point to bring up, Shelly. However, to make sure all citations in the descriptions (and maybe even in the family section) are correctly cited, we need all of the project to help. And a note for citations, it's much easier to use the abbreviated version of the citations, thus why we have the template. 06:22, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help with this. You're right; it is a big task, but the whole point of this site is to have factual, certifiable information about Warriors. 20:48, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'll help out as well, since a.) I have all the books, and b.) I have nothing better to do. This is something that should have been brought up a while ago, but it's never gotten this bad before, to where multiple articles have had false references put in them....how we didn't notice, I'll never know. I think each cite regarding description should be carefully looked at from here on out. 20:52, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'll help out as much as I can as well. I own Beyond the Code, Into the Wild and The Forgotten Warrior, but I also go on amazon.com and books.google.com. 20:54, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I would be glad to help with this. I have a lot of the books, so it would be no problem. I can see why you would be worried.

I'm all in this too, I own all the books but one, so I'm in. 8D 23:58 Sun Feb 26

If we decide to do this (since I see no reason not to) where would we even start? And just to clearify, are we just checking descriptions or are we checking all cites on character pages? 00:00, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I advise hitting the random page button and just checking the cites on any character pages you come across. 00:06, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

That would make sense to me. Obviously don't check cites for the books you don't have. :3 00:08, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

For the record, if you can go back in the page history and find an edit that attributes a citation to a user, do so. Parties responsible for these damaging edits need to be punished. We now have proof at the Erins use our website. We cannot tolerate misinformation, falsification, and rumor mongering. 22:31, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Great idea Shelly, you have my support. I have all the books, and'd be more than happy to help out. 09:54, 28, 02, 2012

Yes, indeed. Although this is pretty late, I think yes. xP 12:53, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion
I figured making a new section rather than just commenting would get this a bit more attention.....

Anyways, due to the false cite problem that was recently discovered, I've been trying to think of a way to show that the page's cites have been verified. I was thinking maybe we could put a template of some sort at the top of the pages saying "This page's references are of questionable authenticity" and that only reliable members (maybe such as members of the project?) could remove it. That way we know that the pages are checked. Or maybe we could make a new template that has the cite in it, but also shows that it's questionable whether it's a real cite or not. I don't know, I just think we should have something so we have a way of knowing when the references have been checked (or haven't) on some pages. Those are just some of the ideas I came up with. Feel free to shoot them down. 22:15, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

I acctually like this, becuase it gives an option for people to do even if they don't own the book and question the accuracy and veracity of an article. 22:39, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Wow. You know it's a good idea if Kitsu supports it. xDDDD

I like it too. It would be a nice addition to the page, and we'd be able to narrow down those references that are false, most of them added in by Wikia Contributors. It's actually quite annoying, because most of the time, they look like good edits, when in fact they're not. Excellent idea, Paleh. 05:56, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

This sounds good, all though it would be a bit confusing- expecially for newer users, it sounds like it could work. As Kit said, it gives users the option to put the reference up, even if they're not 100% sure it's factual. Good find Paleh. 09:50, 28, 02, 2012

This does sound like a good idea to me. I agree completely. 21:24 February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Wonderful idea, Paleh, I agree with this. 02:40, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

I like it. It would work well, looking at the all the links in the articles, and it would provide something for us who are looking for something to do on that spare weekend. I'd say also having a category for it, to point out all articles that would need work. I'll fiddle around with a box later, if more people agree, when I'm less tired and it's not 10:30. xD 03:27, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Although, we could make a page, with all the articles that haven't been looked over. 00:34 Thu Mar 1

Woah Kit actually supported one of my ideas. o.o Thanks guys. And Sweet, that'd work to a certain extent, but what stops more false cites being added? If we made a page it'd have to be constantly updated everytime a cite is added, unless the person who sees it first has the book to check. 15:31, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

If we could get a list of people who are participating in the "cite" thing, maybe we could assign people to articles, and have them check the cites maybe, every 2 weeks? There are a lot of character articles, but if a lot of people participate, I think it'd work. 13:20 Sat Mar 3

I agree with Sweet ^^ Maybe we could add a category of users participating and a category for the pages that need citation checks...or whatever we're calling them =P 12:57, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Gorsetail (NP) ~ Silver Nomination
Hey guys I am gonna nominate Gorsetail. Comments?

Expand history a tad and try to find some quotes that define his personality. 12:04 February 29, 2012 (UTC)

To add on what Chez said, I would suggest adding expanding the history on how he escaped when the Clan cats saved the trapped cats, and that would be added as the last paragraph of the history. Also, the overall history could use a tad more detail. 00:47, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

M'kay just give me a week. A week is fine right?

A week is fine, but a nomination usually should only be up for 3 weeks total. (Just a heads up) 00:19 Thu Mar 1

xD Okay make that 2 weeks!

Umm...The Z Guy was banned, what would happen now? =S 22:50, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think the nomination is declined... 22:51, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

If it's okay, I'd be happy to take this on. 00:22, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Go ahead, Holly. 18:14, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, to whoever that was. ^^ x3 I did my best with the quotes and rewrote Dawn. Stone, he doesn't appear when the Clan cats are escaping, but I detailed the history. 19:34, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thornclaw ~ Silver Nomination
I rewrote and expanded many sections of his history, and add a quote. Comments? 02:23, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Could you change the main quote? And are there any other quotes at all? 02:00, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

I changed the main quote, and put the former main quote as a normal quote. For the current main quote, it may not be Thornclaw speaking, but it shows that he has a patient personality, if that's fine. 17:42, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

(I feel really bad saying this) But could you detail/expand all of the sections of the history anymore? 13:02 Sat Mar 3

I already expanded some sections before I nominated the article, but I'll get to expanding the other sections (mostly the ones in PoT and TNP) once I re-read the books I have. 04:15, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Is this still being worked on? 16:37, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

I'm working on it. I expanded sections;Firestar's Quest, Midnight (Still gonna work on it some more), Dawn, Twilight, Long Shadows, and The Forgotten Warrior. I'll work on some other sections. 08:30, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

I also detailed Ultimate Leader Election: The Clans Decide. 08:31, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Scorchfur ~ Silver Nomination
I'll get some quotes this week. (Sorry, I'm really busy with stuff, and my internet is slow) I'll expand BotC this week too, along with some other sections. Well, comments? 23:32 Sun Mar 4

Anything that can be added as supporting quotes? 23:50, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Could you detail Eclipse and Fading Echoes a bit? 23:52, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Er, Chez, I just explained I would get quotes... And Skye, I'll do that tomorrow, or some time this week. *Life's being hectic* 00:17 Mon Mar 5

Are you still working on this? 16:37, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Bumblestripe - Silver Nomination
I've been stalking this page for a few weeks. No, I'm not ashamed in the slightest. xD I rewrote the sections that needed it the most--Night Whispers, Sign of the Moon, and The Forgotten Warrior, but I will get to the others soon. I'm working on the quotes (I'll do them tomorrow when I have more energy), and I changed the main one. Well, then. Comments? 03:23, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Just letting you guys know, I got the quotes in. 01:12, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Can you expand Long Shadows? 15:02, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 00:38, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe cite the first line of his trivia? :3 08:37, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Done. Wow, the things that slip my attention.... x3 23:49, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Rainstorm ~ Silver Nomination
He mostly just needed a quote. I added a Main Quote, but I'll get to adding another quote. I also gave him bronze status. Comments? 04:13, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Anything to add in Sunrise or Fading Echoes? 15:25, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I can't really expand anything... 16:41, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I added a dialogue quote and added a Hollyleaf's Story section. Comments? 02:37, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Are there any other quotes at all that you could add? 02:40, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

I added another quote, there are others, but they don't describe him in any way. 03:53, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Snowflake, Icicle, Cloudy and Sniff
As I was reading Shattered Peace over again, something dawned on me. Willy and Minty's kits, and their genders. Now, I looked over the entire trilogy, and could not find a cite for their genders, and very vaguely their descriptions. I mean, quite honestly, I can't tell their descriptions from looking at where the references are. It's supposed to be page 24, but if you look at the picture, you really can't tell a.) their genders, obviously and b.) their descriptions.

Quite honestly, the most we know is the fact they're kits of Willy and Minty. We don't accurately know their descriptions and genders. So, what should be done with their pages and chararts? Should it be removed? I've never actually seen this done to so many articles at once. 09:34, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I'd think that the descriptions would stay since they're comic-only characters and for those we can rely on the images in the comics for descriptions. However, if the genders are never mentioned, remove them and the chararts. I'd mark the chararts for deletion, too. Just be sure there isn't even a passing mention of gender for them. 01:21, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

The thing is, Shelly, with the pictures, you really can't even tell which kit is which. They're never individually named. 01:27, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Isn't one named and noted to look exactly like his dad? 01:31, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I think those are the ones from The Lost Warrior, not Ravenpaw's Path. I read the sections where they were shown, and I've never even seen them named outside of when their mother introduces them to the other cats. 01:33, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Links
This might have been brought up before, or it might just be my memory playing tricks, as it usually does in PC matters. Are we supposed to use links like this:, or like this:  ?

Since both output the very same result, and both link to Warrior, with "W" capital, it doesn't seem to matter, so, naturally (^_^) I prefer the second one, as it reduces the amount of typing required, though not by much. Thoughts?

19:16, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I prefer the first. It's hard to explain, but it just feels better knowing it links to Warrior rather than warrior. I know it's not really a good reason, but... why not? 19:32, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

It really doesn't matter. Either way brings you to the same page, though occasionally a redirect page is needed. It's personal preference. However, what I don't want the need to edit every article looking for links that are potentially "wrong" after this discussion unless everyone thinks there is a need for that. 23:26, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I know, and I don't go through articles looking for that. If I just happen to see it, then I'll change it. I've seen lots of others doing it. 02:04, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

I use the first one, since that's how I've always linked pages. I'll edit articles to do just that, but, I also format them too. Personally, I think the first one is a lot more professional. 02:06, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

I use the first one, since that's how I always saw others doing it when I first came around. I just like to know that's how I've written it. But I don't have an issue when others use the second. 03:38, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Toadstep
In Toadstep's trivia, he is mentioned as mistakenly being described as a golden tabby. Curious, and suspicious because of the false cite thing, I checked the reference, and this is what I saw:


 * Toadstep nodded, withdrawing a pace or two into the clearing, his gaze still on Lionblaze as if he felt the golden tabby was likely to spring at him without warning.

Now, that sentence definitely does not refer to Toadstep as a golden tabby. It's most definitely referring to Lionblaze. I figured I'd ask before I went and did this, but: Should his trivia be removed, and his image along with it? 13:51, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Pesonally I think so, since it isn't referring to Toadstep, and if it isn't, it shouldn't be in his trivia. In his trivia it says it could have been Lionblaze, but since it (obviously) is, it should be removed in my opinion. 13:53, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I think it should be, since it's pretty obvious that the sentence was referring to Lionblaze, not Toadstep. 17:18, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it should be changed. In his trivia, it said he was "most likely confused with Lionblaze", which he was, for his trivia, as Chez said. 08:32, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

That's not referring to Toadstep. I think someone was mistaken when they put that on his article. I think both the trivia statement and his image should be removed. 15:46, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I'm pretty sure that it's refering to Lionblaze, not Toadstep. 18:31, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

I've removed it. 19:25, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Double Links in references
Hi, I do remember that we eliminate double links from articles, but do we also do the same for references? 12:05, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so. If two different things are able to be cited in the same place, both still need to be individually cited. Just my guess, though. 12:52, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

I think Shelly's right. As far as I know, since each reference is for a different thing, it should stay linked. It would make a lot more sense to have each reference separately linked... 05:18, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Mapleshade ~ Silver Nomination
I was playing around with TFW, but, other then that, most of it was already completed. She's got good quotes, and her history's pretty detailed. 01:09, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe expand SotM? It looks great. 22:20, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think I can expand SotM. I looked up a lot of this before I nominated it. 21:25, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Could you detail the first paragraph of Crookedstar's Promise at all? It's looking great. 02:42, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Nope. Can't expand that, either; that's literally all does in that section of the book. xD 03:55, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Jagged Lightning ~ Silver Nomination
Quotes are being added now, and SoTM is being expanded as well. I love the Ancients~<3. 01:28, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

SotM expanded, and quotes added. 02:25, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Proposal for adding personalities to character articles
Okay, I know this idea will probably get shot down, as there are a few dissadvantages to it, but it's worth a shot. I was thinking that we could a section to character articles which tells us the personality of a character (and everything to be cited), as it's something that many probably would want to know about (I did when I was an anon here). For an example, if Firestar is mentioned or acting kind (Spoiler Alert) for an example, when he agrees to help ShadowClan with the kittypets in Twilight, we would cite that, and put kind under a personality section (which could be a bulleted list).

Though, we are not sure if the character is acting out having a certain trait, which could be a dissadvantage, though, if one of the erins reveals the personality of a character somewhere, we could cite it from there. This could attract new users and anons too add unsourced information, too, but, as we know, we need to assume good faith when it comes to editing.

So...Yeah, that's my idea. Thoughts? 22:55, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

It would probably lead to bias opinions on articles, since half the stuff characters do could be taken either way. It's a nice idea...but could cause some major conflict. 22:58, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's the big dissadvantage to it. Though, if there was a section, there could be a template somewhere that would say something about adding the information. As I said up there^^, this idea will probably get shot down, 'cause if we did this, it would be risky. 23:01, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Even with a template, it would still be risky. We don't know for certain why any character does what they do, since everyone's opinion on each thing is vastly different. It would require a lot of planning... 23:04, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

...I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this for the same reason I disagreed with the idea of having pages for shippings. This is just too risky for me to be comfortable with. I stand by what I said before, that all necessary information about the character should be provided in the histories. Heck, between them and the quotes, the person viewing the article should get a good idea of what the character is like. Plus, the way we have it, the reader can form an opinion on their own. 01:55, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

And it's not just the editors of this wiki that may be biased. Do you think that when Lionblaze looks at a ShadowClan cat, he isn't biased by nursery tales to see that cat automatically as a cold, cruel being made only to try to attack his Clan? But when you look at the same cat through Flametail's eyes, the cat looks no different from any ThunderClan cat that Lionblaze sees. We can't determine the true personalities of most cats. 02:14, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Dawn River - Silver Nomination
I've expanded the history and added the quote relevant to her. 23:13, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Could you rewrite the first paragraph of SotM? And some quotes too, please. :3 01:21, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

I've rewritten the first paragraph. I will not add irrelevant quotes. I've already said that I added the quote relevant to her of which is the main quote. 16:37, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ducksplash- Request to Join
May I, Please Join this project? I have read all of the warriors books. Ducky Shamrocks Falling From The Sky!!!  22:33, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome, please read the guidelines and refer to the FAQ if you have any questions. 04:03, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Bouncefire ~ Silver Nomination
Looks good for a sorta minor character. Comments? 06:20, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Add some quotes to the article. Look's good~ 08:20, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Added quotes. He has surprisingly few lines in the book, even though he's often present. (shrug) The book focused more on the daylight warrirors. 15:55, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Reword the first paragraph of SkyClan's Destiny, please. 02:37, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Taken care of. 23:46, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Curious....
This page isn't very complete, and though it says it's in discussion, I haven't seen any, and it hasn't changed since it was created, so I was wondering if it was kinda forgotten about? The ranks categories still need to be added and the book categories aren't complete. I know chances are a lead would have to fix it up, but if that's not the case, I'd be more than willing to find all the official categories and add them. I just thought the page could use some fixing up, so... 15:22, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure there isn't any discussion. I see no reason why a lead has to fix it up. If you're willing to do it, I say go for it. It shouldn't take too long. Thanks for pointing that out. :) 15:36, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Forgive Me?
Hi guys. I'm still alive, and I just wanted to personally apologize to you all. I feel like I've failed as a leader recently. I've just been really sick and I'm struggling to control my anxiety disorder. School's been really tough on me ad it's really hard to handle. I've said this before, I know, so some of you are probably tired of this. Just say the word and I'll step down. If you still want me to stay, I will. I'll make more of an effort to contribute. The thought of me leaving makes me shed actual tears, but I won't be offended if you want a better leader. Please, try and accept my apology and I'll make a huge effort to live up to commitment I made a year and a half ago. 23:27, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Moonflight, I haven't been here long, but I don't think that any inactivity on your part has negatively effected this project. I hope everything is alright with you, and I understand the school thing (I'm in college as well). I personally see no need for you to step down. 23:37, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Moonie, I don't think that you've failed as a leader. You're an amazing user, and you've earned your spot in PC. But, I don't believe that nobody can be angry at you-life's gotta go first, and it's a difficult choice when it comes to choose between two things that are either important, os something you're passionate about. I think that you don't need to step down. 03:58, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Moonflight, it's hard to divide time between the internet and real life, and it isn't your fault that some things came before others. You are a good leader, and a contributive user WWiki is lucky to have. I don't think you should step down. 18:00, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Sparrowfeather's Charcat
Sparrowfeather's Charcat needs to be fixed, as I am unsure of how to do this, could someone do it? I do not know if maybe it has something to do with the Charart, but I was just letting you all know. 09:34, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

It's a coding issue we're well aware of. It's being worked on as we speak. 09:36, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

It's fine now, the template has been fixed. 03:53, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Ken and Jean - Separate Them?
This article is the only character article that has planned status. I want to see if I can change that. :)

Before I start digging in, I want to see if anyone would like to separate them. I personally believe that we should. I know that they're not major characters, but we've made article for cats without names, so I see no reason why each character shouldn't have their own pages. What do you guys think? Leave your thoughts down below and I'll weigh both sides and possibly create a vote accordingly. :) 15:51, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but didn't we make articles for Sol's Father and Leafstar's Mother simply because they had relevance to their individual plots? With Ken and Jean, the two are only relevant to the plot together, in my opinion. There'd be a lot less to write about them seperately than together, at least in Jean's case. 15:57, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

I always wondered why they weren't separate. I think they should be, because they are different characters. Their individual roles should still be acknowledged, no matter how small. Look at the allegiances-only cats. They have articles of their own, even though we'll probably never see them do anything important in the books, because they're still characters. 17:49, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Runningnose ~ Silver Nomination
I added in Night Whispers...I don't see that much more to add but anywho comments? 21:13, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Larkpaw ~ Silver Nomination
History's expanded, and there isn't much to add on such a minor character, and I also gave the article bronze status. 16:50, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Feature Article Candidate List
I was bored, so I've compiled a list of articles that have been offered as feature articles in the past. I believe that this may shorten discussions as well as create less work for the project. If, for example, the discussion is started later than usually, we can just pick an article off the list and vote on it. I also included a list of articles that need a little tweaking before being heavily considered. I only dug back until February's discussion, so it's not complete, but it's a start. What do you guys think? 20:09, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

This sounds good. Thanks, Moon! This will be easier than just browsing through articles. 20:17, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

This will be much easier to use. Thank for making it! 00:23, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

I love this idea, Moon. This will make life a lot more easier<3 20:37, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Moonflight, this'll save a lot of time! :) 00:31, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

Burr - Silver Nomination
I don't think he should have quotes due his character being subjected to those who are playing the game... Somewhat hard to write about his character so pardon the choppiness of the writing. Any suggestions are welcome. 23:10, March 26, 2012 (UTC)