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Raggedpelt (W) - For Approval
This is my first try at doing a charart, so I'm sorry if it's really bad/if I did it wrong. How is it?Hollytail 00:10, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, first; the lineart is really strange, it's white, it should be black. Second, you need to save it in png format, not jpg. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:42, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

How do I fix the lineart? And could that have anything to do with the fact that I had issues with getting the blank onto pixlr?Hollytail 01:06, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Did you delete the white inside the blank before you put the brown in? And what kind of trouble did you have? Min now  claw My dragon will eat you! 01:10, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Right-click->open in new tab for the image, and then you can edit it. The images in the gallery are shrunken a bit. -- Gοlδεnpαω A p p a r e ! 01:25, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Over the area with the blanks it says to click to get the image at full size, but whenever I tried that, it wouldn't let me place it in pixlr, or save it to pictures. It came up in a box in the center of the screen and all that it would let me do was highlight it...Eventually I just used the thumbnail picture...Hollytail 01:29, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, you can't do that. Copy the file name of the blank and place it into the search bar. Then, go to the page and get the location, and you're good to go! Other than that, the image looks nothing like  Møųş  ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  01:55, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

I tried fixing it in the right blank this time... How does it look now?Hollytail 02:30, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Use the color dropper to get the right coat color- he is still far too dark. And his stripes don't match the leader image. Don't worry, that problem is easy to fix. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  04:07, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Or use the sponge tool set to saturate on size 200 will do. → •Maple  fern•  ←  11:56, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Better?Hollytail 12:59, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart is still weird...Layer a regular warrior blank on the image. The shading needs more blurring and so does the stripes. And, the ear pink needs to be lighter. Ice Spring is here! 15:45, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Tried fixing it, but what is layering?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 16:56, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Why did you blur the ragged fur lines? Those should be solid! ☮Quail☮ Felt that earthquake in Mexico... 15:36, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry... is this better? And what is layering?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:51, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

The eye doesn't look right...look at this or this to see how it should look.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   21:33, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 22:28, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart is really blurred and there is some missing on the head and paws. Also darken and blur the shading. Add another stripe to the haunch and try making it more brown like his leader image-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   22:39, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I can say this but; it's been 5 days since you've worked on this. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  17:50, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

You can say it but this user still has time as we wait a week. Sakura Kiss Haikage 17:54, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Eek, Sorry! I worked on it, but I didn't realize that I didn't re-upload it. Oops... Sorry! Anyway, better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:21, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

The line art still needs to be fixed and his pelt should be a darker. Sakura Kiss Haikage 21:55, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

What's wrong with the line art and how do I fix it?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:39, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you smudged the picture! LucyϠ in the Sky With Diamonds 04:04, April 14, 2010 (UTC) The lineart near his back ear is missing where it connects with his head. The lineart near his hind leg and tail are smudged too. you can see brown pixels. Just past a new lineart on top of it and clean it up some if there's extra sitting outside of it.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:45, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I would highly reccomend redoing this. LucyϠ in the Sky With Diamonds 04:22, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I could try to fix the lineart for you if you'd like. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my Love 19:58, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to redo it, how does it look now?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:32, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

The lineatr is good but im not sure what the dark brown smudges in his pelt are. Is it supposed to be shading? Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 19:42, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think they are. Blur the shading, lengthen the stripes and make them less dark like the leader image, and make the ear pink more triangular. Rain whisker  武士貓  00:14, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

The large blob of shading in the middle of his haunch needs to go away. Perhaps you might want to check one of the tutorials? Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   17:27, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes and blur the shading. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 17:32, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to fix it, how does it look now?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:24, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

You still need to lengthen the stripes. 雨 晶須  15:27, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 17:10, April 18, 2010 (UTC) The colour is a little dark and there are more stripes needed in places. The ear pink is a little bright and/or needs blurring and the raggedy-fur lines look too... similar; as in they are all the same shape and size as each other. ✐Sa NdY  17:16, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Also, he needs a torn ear (unless he got that after he became deputy?) 雨  晶須  21:20, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 01:24, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

He looks more dark ginger than brown now. Blur the stripes some. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 19:35, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ash is right. What you need to do is save his leader or deputy pic and use the eyedropper tool to get the right color because it looks like your having trouble with the color. Also, the tip of the ear facing us is gray. Erase that.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:42, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:54, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah,just blur the ear pink a little more. Clar ris  sa! :)  11:00, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:59, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink should be blurred more, I don't see any shading or highlights, and the haunch seems empty. Add stripes on the haunch. Quailflight 06:53, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:28, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is really bright. Make it softer, like his leader image. <font color="#99badd">Cool Blue Reason: <font color="#191970">Wrapped Around Your Throat  22:10, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see much shading at all, but maybe thats just me... And I agree, soften the ear pink a bit. -- Quiet !...  03:08, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:20, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink some more. <font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 03:47, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more of a reddish color and blur it. Also, the nick in the ear doesn't seen realistic. I can fix it for you if you like or just ....... er it's hard to explain I would say maybe thicken the lineart around the nick? What do others say?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 03:57, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if the nick looks any better, but I tried to fix it. Anyways, better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 21:58, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Add a few small stripes to the top of his head. BLur the earpink as well. Quailflight 08:20, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 21:58, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what program you're using, but you need to take the burn tool (looks like a hand) and run it over the back, chest, tail, and head. That will add some good shading. You also need to blur the ear pink quite a bit and the also the stripes. -- Bram ble  03:38, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail מרגלית Lion x Heather 4ever! 17:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be triangular.  Snickers  19:41, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail מרגלית Lion x Heather 4ever! 21:09, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and stripes-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:23, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

I feel really bad that my rubbishy Raggedstar image is so hard to copy... I thought I'd give you a few tips about how I made the leader image which may help you get the colours and shading right. I paint-bucketed the main colour and then used the burn tool to add shading - with a size 15 brush - and then used the burn tool again (both times on midtones) to paint the stripes on with a size 5 brush and blurred. I think the problem you have is not that the stripes are too light, but rather that they are the wrong colour.

Also, the raggedy-fur look needs to be more raggedy. You need to rough it up a bit and make it a little less regular; at the moment yours are all very straight v-shapes, try and vary it a little and make it more sruffy! =) Hope this helps. ✐Sa  NdY  19:15, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail מרגלית Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:35, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Rename the image Raggedstar.warrior.png -<font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 22:54, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

O.K, I'm not sure I did that right, because now it's saying that this is a duplicate of the Raggedpelt (W), but it's been named Raggedpelt.warrior.png.<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 22:22, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes thinner and add more along the body, head and tail. Darken the shading a bit-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:09, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

There is a white pixel on the chest. Snow storm  23:57, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 22:59, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Frostfur (Ki) - For approval
ok its my first charat ever. I know it's bad but still..... Comments? Silverstar Leader of Shineclan!  16:12, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but even with two discussions this is over the limit of 35. Just when I thought we had that problem sorted... Declining as I'm fed up with having to clean up the page already today. Please resubmit this when the page goes below 35 images. Thanks Snickers, and it's not just you so don't feel bad. ✐Sa NdY  16:19, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Its quite good but as Sandy said,below 35. Clar ris  sa! :)  17:17, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

It might have changed since Sandy's comment but this is the 35th image. Haikage Ash's Talk 19:47, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

So, is it ok? Silverstar Leader of Shineclan!  19:49, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's fine now. The background needs to be transparent, not black though. ✐Sa NdY  19:52, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploded Better? Silverstar Leader of Shineclan!  20:24, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

wait. I have this reserved. Can't i do her? Echo Kit  21:14, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Echo your reservation is over two weeks old. Snickers has the right to do this image . Haikage Ash's Talk 21:23, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

oh... I was about to but her up but oh well. Echo Kit  21:24, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

The lining on the right ear is not there, and I can't see the highlights really well. What program did you use? ~Ec hos  tar  22:04, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

There is gaps in the line art in various places.<span style="font-family:Constantia; background:LightSilver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;">Snowstorm Deputy of LightClan! 22:06, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded crosses fingers Better?

It looks as if you're using paint to do this image. You need to use pixlr of some other image program. The shading needs to be blurred. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:31, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to blur the shading more. Silverstar Leader of Shineclan!  11:23, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

You are familiar with blurring, right? And some of the lineart was drawn over. Birthdaypath Let's go April 7! 22:53, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * It looks as if you tried to draw some of the lineart back...The ear pink needs to be blurred around the edges and this white is too bright so the shading won't show up as much and it'll make it harder. Look at her other images for reference:



To make it easier for you use the color droppler so you can take the base color from one of these images. Don't take the shading at all though and you are using pixlr right? Because it still looks as if you're using paint. If not there's always GIMP you can download :)-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  22:27, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I'm using pixlr. I'll work on it : ) Silverstar  Leader of Shineclan!  22:34, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm on vacation and pixlr does not work. : ( I'll fix it when I go home. (which is in 2 days :) Silverstar  Leader of Shineclan!  00:03, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded What! every time I try to change it on Pixlr it stays the same! = ( Snickers!  Meeow!  I am such a furball.  I ♥ the Warriors wiki!  22:17, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

I sugust you redo it. The shading looks like you sprayed it on using Paint. You need to burn it on using the burn on pixlr. Sakura Kiss Haikage 22:20, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I'll redo it. I'll have it done soon. Silverstar

If you want, I can help you re-thicken the lineart. Otherwise, just do what everyone else said above. Rain whisker  武士貓  00:10, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Computer problems.... Getting it fixed tomorow. Right now I'm at the Library.*sigh* Sni  ck  ers  20:04, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid it so is it any better? Sni ck  ers  04:10, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

The shading still looks as if its painted on. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 04:16, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I promise by StarClan I was using pixlr Sni  ck  ers  04:24, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Im not saying that your not using pixlr. I'm saying that it looks like you're using the paintbrush instead of the burn tool. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 04:36, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry :S The burn was weelll kinda weird with me Sni  ck  ers  13:35, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

You seemed to have smudged part of the lineart, like near the forelegs. I can help you fix that if you want. 雨 晶須  15:26, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think looks good, but I see a bit of stuff like smuged fur and I also see you accidentally blured the tail and the chest together, making it look mixed up. But other than that, it is SO cute!

p.s. I have a cat

Graystripefan 14:48, April 22, 2010 (UTC)☞Graystripefan☜

Reuploaded Can someone remove the gray background for me because when I did that it wouldn't let me save it cause who knows why...So apart from that any better? <span style="color:Red;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em color:Red">Memo <span style="color:White;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;Border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Silver">rial <span style="color:Blue;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Blue">star Remember the ones who died...  22:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Parts of the lineart seem to be missing. Just copying the original kit lineart, making the white parts transparent, and lining it up on a new layer over it should do the trick. (: -- Quiet !...  03:15, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Umm.. Layer? <span style="color:Red;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em color:Red">Memo <span style="color:White;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;Border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Silver">rial <span style="color:Blue;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Blue">star Remember the ones who died...  19:12, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm... Whats a layer? Spri ngs  tar  20:22, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Copy and paste the lineart over this image. Make sure you delete the white pixels around it. There are lots on the kit blanks-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   20:28, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid her. Didn't like it before. So Commentos? Spri ngs  tar  11:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is...blotchy and I don't see any eye color. Φτερ όaερ  άκι  13:27, April 25, 2010 (UTC)I'll Work on her  Snickers

Reuploaded Layers.. Hmmm I tried :/ Spri  ngs  tar  19:55, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

The background is gray, it needs to be transparent  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 22:25, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yay! Fixed! Spri ngs  tar  20:36, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

That is better :) Okay, darken and blur the shading, make the ear pink more of a reddish color, and color the nose in  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 21:56, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded It won't blur any more. Spri ngs  tar  22:05, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Comments?  ★Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 19:04, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on her left (our left) foreleg. Looks good, otherwise:) -- Ŧ ∆ ķ მ ♰ § Ʊ ო Σ          ö        19:37, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I see. I'll get to work on this tomorow. S n icker s     Life's a rollercoaster 20:37, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sil ver paw  Chase that mouse!  18:54, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

This is nice! Just add some shading to the top of her head, and try to smooth out other shading with the blur tool. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:57, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

There is shading on her head and I'll try and blur it more. Snic  kers   10:52, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded It can not blur any more. Snic  kers   23:05, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Comments?<span style="color:Orchid;Font-family:FangSong;Background:Aqua;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Orchid">Silverclaw Goldenface  19:15, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Shy Fawn (SC)-For Approval
Here she is! Second sharpclaw! Γǻώή ςτόŗm  08:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Again, why am I so slow!? I really want to put my charart up! Image wise, this is good. Just blur the shading and highlights. Also, darken the earpink and make it smaller. But this is good.<span style="font-family:Constantia; background:LightSilver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;">Snowstorm Deputy of LightClan! 14:06, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Note: I am dping this while Briarlight is being worked on :) Blurred shading and made the Ear Pink darker and smaller. :) Γǻώή  ςτόŗm  15:29, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any shading... Could you make it more noticeable??? I think you blurred it a little to much... Mo onp  elt   ۞  18:07, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry about that Moonplet. :) I think I got over-excited. :3 Γǻώή  ςτόŗm  18:24, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. Sakura Kiss Haikage 14:29, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Largened Ear Pink. Better? Γǻώή ςτόŗm  15:30, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Center it some more. Sakura Kiss Haikage 19:29, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Centered it. Sorry it took me so long, my laptop wouldn't let me upload it. :3 Γǻώή  ςτόŗm  09:53, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make the shading more visiable;thefore, darken it. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 14:06, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, darken the shading and/or add some highlights. ✐Sa NdY  17:34, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more. Clar ris  sa! :)  11:07, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I was talking to Sandy and Shruugy on the IRC and they said to show what my shading normaly looks like. Here it is. Dapple star  10:03, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, that doesn't look too dark to me. It just needs blending. ✐Sa NdY  12:03, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's horrible though. :( Γǻώή  ςτόŗm  12:45, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are hard to see, and the bottom of the earpink could be blurred. Quailflight 08:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Have attempted to blur the shdng, but have failed, also I've brightened highlights. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  10:32, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading some more-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:25, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

'''I've redone her but it won't let me upload her! I've done everything that has been said but I can't do it!!! Sorry, I'll try A.S.A.P Γǻώή ςτόŗm  08:47, May 8, 2010 (UTC)'''

Reuploaded Finally. I used Insane's way of layering the image and its worked!!! Γǻώή ςτόŗm  15:45, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerstar (A) Up for approval
Well, here he is! Open for comments now. Butterfly } { Song!  13:46, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

The image is a redlink at present. ✐Sa NdY  13:48, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I KNOW. I can't open the file! I'll try again. Please wait Butterfly }  { Song!  14:24, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Butterfly } { Song!  14:29, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any eye-color. Φτερ όaερ  άκι  14:49, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

In the future, don't use caps, because it's like shouting. I do see the eye color, just that the highlight in the eye seems a bit big. Also, blur the stripes and shading on the tail. -- 雨 晶須  15:16, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Needs eye colour! :3 Dawnleaf 14:45, April 19, 2010 (UTC)Dawnleaf

The eye color is there, but whoever made these blanks made the highlights just as big as the eye color space. And I'm sorry, I won't use caps in the future. Butterfly } { Song!  19:05, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think he had the nick in his ear when he was an apprentice. Clar ris  sa! :)  11:22, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, he might've. Thistleclaw was a pretty tough mentor.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 19:29, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

As for the image, you should use a tutorial or an apprentice pic like Frostfur's for the eyes.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:26, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I still think this is good for my third attempt (I think of it as my first because it's the only one that was up for more than one day). I origionally made him with the scars on his muzzle, but painted over them because he got them later. Butterfly } { Song!  01:10, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

You still haven't put coloring in the eyes. He should have amber. Quailflight 16:49, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Try to copy the eyes from another apprentice image like Shrewpaw. If not, I can do it for you.-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 02:35, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Sorry for the wait. How's this? I changed the eye highlight to the eye color... Butterfly }  { Song!  14:47, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Add some eye-white. Bring up an apprentice image on your art program, and zoom ito his/her face. That should help with the eye color, pupil, and eye-white positions  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 01:50, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see a pupil. Just *a glint of amber eyes* xD Spri  ngs  tar  20:40, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

There is a pupil, and the eye white was preventing everyone from seeing his eye color. Make up your mind please! Butterfly } { Song!  16:09, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

No one said get rid of the eye highlight just change it's placement. Do what Night said look at some of the approved apprentice chatarts and copy the eye from there. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 16:33, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Or look here for how to do the eye. 雨 晶須  21:52, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

ReuploadedThank you for the Tutorial! I needed that, and I'll use it ffr. Butterfly } { Song!  16:40, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Stonetooth(D)- For Approval
Decided to do something different. Comments? ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  22:14, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Amazing! Just blur his back shading more. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 20:22, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred the shading as much as I could. ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  20:46, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks good. Clar ris  sa! :)  16:27, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his haunch and back leg.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 19:49, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this better? εСћб ђэάѓτ  10:37, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comments? εСћб ђэάѓτ  22:22, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

It's only been two days, be sure to wait at least five to six says before asking for comments. As for the image, this is very good :) Just darken the stripes more on the face  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 22:34, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry, and thanks! Is it too dark? εСћб ђэάѓτ  10:40, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit, right now it's the same color as his stripes  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 01:28, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Snow storm  00:34, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

I won't be here from tomorrow till May 16, so please don't decline when I'm gone. :) εСћб  ђэάѓτ  10:21, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Boulder (Lo) for approval
he looks terribble he has some errors but i will fix them Iceyfang 21:31, April 22, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

You used the thumbnail instead of the full sized blank. Remake it using that. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 21:38, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded Iceyfang 21:57, April 22, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

Add more shading around the body, blur it, make the ear pink more....pinkish. Blur the highlights and add more stripes. -- Ice The stars will light your path...

reuploded Iceyfang 22:14, April 22, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

Blur the stripes and darken the earpink and shading and blur them.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 23:49, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

It needs to look more like his elder image.. -- Quiet !...  23:57, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Needs an eye.(As in color,pupil.) <span style="color:Red;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em color:Red">Memo <span style="color:White;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;Border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Silver">rial <span style="color:Blue;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Blue">star Remember the ones who died...  00:00, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

It's not terrible, Iceyfang! But the ear looks too fake, and smudge the stripes.-- ≈៛₪¥ -§₰₪₥≈  11:48, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded iceyfang  15:18, April 23, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

Blur the ear more and blur his back. Also,why is the colour overlapping the lineart,did you blur it a little too much? Apart from this,its not terrible,its great! Clar ris  sa! :)  16:36, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 01:27, April 24, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

The tabby stripes are too dark and the ear pink is too bright. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   01:57, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too bright. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:aqua">Zoe27 10:28, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 13:38, April 24, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

Woah...What happened to the stripes?They are too light,and I can see dark stripes under. Well apart from that really good! <span style="color:Goldenrod;Font-family:Comic Sans MS;Background:Black;Border:2px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; Color:Goldenrod">Smoke on the water Fire in the sky☼  19:41, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 00:25, April 25, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

The stripes are too dark, copy them from his elder image. His earpink appears to be purple-pink, and I don't see any eye-color. Φτερ όaερ  άκι  00:50, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

the stripes are wayyyyy to dark try making them like his elder image for instance...make his stripes 2 more shadings than his pelt colorLionClaw132 03:49, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this soon.  Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 21:12, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Snickers, users have a period of one week before we give them the decline warning. Iceyfang has two more days.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 21:47, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Oops sorry =| Anyway I sugest that you make the pelt lighter and the stripes darker. Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 23:04, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

sorry i havn't been on ive been school work but then i have to do a show so i wont be working on this much <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 13:06, May 1, 2010 (UTC)iceygang


 * The lineart is blurred on his back side near his tail.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 03:22, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * i cant get to work on this for 2 weeks but do not decline this can some else do it for now <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 03:46, May 2, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang


 * I'd be happy too, unless if I need to wait on Darkstripe being approved..--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 01:04, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you're using the paintbrush tool to do the stripes. I believe that you're supposed to use the pencil tool. <font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 15:38, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

As Iceyfang has given up rights to the image and asked for someone else to do it, someone can work on the image even if their own is up for approval. I would, but I don't have a lot of time these days. First come, first serve; whoever would like to do the image gets to if they speak up first. Bram ble  04:03, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

I'll take this. Poppydawn is in the 24h stage right now, so I hope it's okay. Do I have to put it under my reserved chararts?-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   04:08, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I re-did this image. Comments?-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:37, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Owlstar (W) - For Approval
How is he? He's my third one. I'm finally starting to get used to making chararts! Comments?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 21:25, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot more. Φτερ όaερ  άκι  23:36, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Better?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 01:09, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the front of his haunch. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 15:45, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Where, exactly should I add the shading?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 22:51, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

The front of the haunch, where the little dab of shading is touching. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 19:38, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Added haunch shading.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 21:43, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   23:49, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Blurred shading. -- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:53, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thought the haunch shading needed more blurring.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 22:01, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thought all the shading needed some blurring. -- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:05, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Move the ear pink up a bit-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   22:42, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Chasing Clouds - For Approval
I will say that Moonpelt's version was very good, and I'll remember to put the rank after my charart next time. I guess I didn't think I needed it since Chasing Clouds has only one known rank. Anyways, comments?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  23:31, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Huh...blur the shading on his gray parts and darken the shading on the white transition. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 15:46, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is good....blur the gray. Quailflight 17:47, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you blurred some line art on the ear. <span style="color:lime;font-family:Century Gothic;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Moonpelt is a Jayfeather fan :3 13:51, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Also, add some grey to the face. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 19:39, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart's blurred in several places. <font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 00:21, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should add more gray patches all over-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   00:27, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred the shading on the gray parts, darken the white shading, fixed the blurred lineart on the ear and some other places, and added gray to the face and other parts.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:14, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks weird. Quailflight 09:49, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's blurred a lot. <font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 23:00, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Where exactly do you see it blurred? Maybe it's obvious to you, but I can't tell. My computer crashed a few days ago and I have limited time on my brother's computer, so I can't really look over to see exactly where it's blurred.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  23:52, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Around the head and tail, I think. <font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 00:29, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get to working on it soon.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:27, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. If there are still blurred places, I can fix that. Also, any other problems?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:19, May 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * The lineart still looks blurred...maybe its this computer as its not my own. Its like fuzzy where it touches the color and it seems almost blurred to the gray patches. Blur the patches more too.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 22:10, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I went over all the fuzzy places and fixed them. Also blurred the patches into the white part a little more.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:28, May 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * The white patches on the tail are very grey and the shading needs thickening and blending all over. ✐Sa  NdY  16:09, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  21:20, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Graymist (Q)-For Approval
This is one thing............. an epic fail. XP Comments?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 02:32, Apr<font color="Turquoise">Jöhn lënnön <font color="Aquamarine" style="background:white;"> Imagine 01:27, May 13, 2010 (UTC)il 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. Quailflight 17:47, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred stripes. Comments?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 00:11, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the stripes, and add a few to her legs  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 00:14, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

When I did darken the stripes, it didn't match her warrior image and messed the whole picture up. The stripes on the leg are there, you just can't see them very well because of the shading. Comments?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 03:09, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I still think that you should darken the stripes in the shaded area. The shading would darken the stripes. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 19:27, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened leg stripes. Comments?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 22:15, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Keep blurring the stripes, because it looks like they've only been blurred over once. Here's a trick:

If it looks like it won't blur anymore, press the mouse again and keep repeating until the blurring is perfect. Quailflight 10:49, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred stripes more. Comments? Snow storm  23:01, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes have no highlights- they seem to go over the shading and highlights you put- they look drawn on. Could you fix that? Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   20:44, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying. Do I have to redo the image? Or is there a way to fix it? Snow storm  20:53, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well, acually Mouse, that's the way I do my tabbies. I do the shading and highlights first, then I do the stripes  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 03:56, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

A lot of people do that but it only works if you use the burn tool for stripes. You should do the stripes first if you paint them on. As for the image if you're careful you can just highlight that area. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 13:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I used the pencil tool to put the stripes on :3 What should I do? I also did it the way Night did it. Is it ok? Snow storm  18:18, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading again. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 20:15, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I never darkened the shading before, and if I do the stripes wont be visible. Snow storm  03:05, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit bigger-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:31, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Snow  storm  23:55, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink more. <font color="Turquoise">Jöhn lënnön <font color="Aquamarine" style="background:white;"> Imagine 01:27, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

I won't blur anymore. Snow storm  16:44, May 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I blurred it a touch for you (if you don't like it then revert it), but you're right; to do so any more would blur it right into the pelt and it wouldn't be seen. I think you've done a great job with this. -- Sandy star 11:51, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sandstorm (A) - For Approval
Since there is 4 discussions and 1 being declined this should be under the limit. Also my Chasing Clouds is going to be declined so I'll put this up. And last the sun is hitting her back so the shading is on her front. Constructments? Moon The one and only! 15:39, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole image a bit and darken the ear pink. This looks awesome! Also add a few more tail stripes and darken them-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   00:35, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Constructments? <span style="color:lime;font-family:Century Gothic;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Moonpelt is a Jayfeather fan :3 00:53, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think this is perfect!-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   23:28, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on the bottom need blurring. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   23:35, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

On the bottom of what??? LOL <span style="color:lime;font-family:Century Gothic;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Moonpelt is a Jayfeather fan :3 02:18, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant the chest. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   12:11, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? <font color="#66CCCC">Moonpelt <font color="#66FF99">? 12:36, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little too light. Darken it. 雨 晶須  21:55, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the stripes a tad. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 23:29, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripes are fine since she has barely visible stripes. The earpink needs to be darkeded and blurred.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 19:01, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry I already darkened them so if you want me to lighten them just right below! Constructments? <span style="color:silver;font-family:Century Gothic;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">ϟSinking Moonϟ 01:47, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

She looks fine to me. Comments before approval? -- Bram ble  03:42, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading on the haunch needs blurring a little more. ✐Sa NdY  16:10, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? <font color="#333399">Mo <font color="#3333CC">onp <font color="#333399 ">elt  <font color="#3366FF ">₪   01:16, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darkstripe (W) - For Approval


I believe this is along my lines of fail...it took forever to get those stripes to match his other image, but it was worth it. Comments?--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 21:37, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know I shouldn't be here.... but not fail Shimmer, stunning. ✐Sa  NdY  21:40, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sandy, *waggles finger* get off the computah XD Shimmer, this looks awsome! The stripes look as if they were smudged instead of blurred though, so maybe blur them some more  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 21:52, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Updated...and *gasps* Now Sandy, even I know you shouldn't be here lol. Finish those exams because mine are coming up in two weeks. I'll be in your situation soon :P How is this? I'm beginning to fly though images again o.o better find someone else now...--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 22:18, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

The stripe on the haunch seems a bit smudged. Maybe darken it a tiny bit. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 22:35, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Darken him just a tad. How's this?--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 02:54, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Highlights need blurring.  Mo    us    et    al    on    !!   20:47, May 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * This is the best I can do. Anymore and I'll start messing up the stripes.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:03, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Could you perhaps lighten the patch on his nose? It's hard to see the lineart there. And I know I colored his nose pink in the rogue image, but to be consistent, I think we decided to just leave the warrior nose black. Also, his eyes are blue in the rogue version. Darkstripe seems to have his eye color change many times; they've been mentioned as yellow, blue, and brown.. I think. Sorry about the trouble you had with the stripes; it was my style you had to try and copy. -- Bram ble  22:52, May 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * His eyes are golden on rogue image Bramble, see: Darkstripe_(R).png And its fine :) I like to challenge myself. I kind of had to highlight the top of his head again so it could blur in well.Updated--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:59, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the highlights. Mist cloud  20:58, May 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Updated--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 03:20, May 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think he's a little too dark. Lighten him up a bit. His stripes are amazing, though! 雨  晶須  13:56, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Updated--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 20:37, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the golden eyes mishap; I was looking at the one saved on my computer, which had blue eyes. :) On the image, his midriff has some black stripes that are awful close in color to the lineart; lighten those up a bit. Same thing for the stripe along his lower back; lighten that just a touch. Bram  ble  03:38, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Updated--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 22:55, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 23:09, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Tallpoppy (A) - For Approval


I don't like Robinwing, so I erased it. I'm at school, so this isn't finished..-- ≈Ivy -sδmδ≈  03:06, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

As I believe has been said numerous times before, you never blank a section; you put 'withdrawn' in place of 'for approval' and let one of the senior team archive it. You never erase it. I also uploaded your image in accordance with the new naming policy; Tallpoppy.apprentice. Your image isn't finished yet, so I'll hold my comments for now. -- Bram ble  03:33, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading, this looks like a speckled (whatever LOL) cat and here description says tabby, add some color to the eye, add some shading and highlights if you want to, akso some ear pink, and blur the markings after you make them tabby stripes. (sorry if they are tabby stripes : Add stripes to the tail, the foreleg thats farthest away from us, some on thee tail, and some on the back leg closes to us. <font color="#333399">Mo <font color="#3333CC">onp <font color="#333399 ">elt  <font color="#3366FF ">₪   13:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderfur (W)- for approval
Hey guys! Haven't been on for a long time and I think my skills have faded... but, here ya' go! EARTH DAY!  Make sure you recycle! You get $!  16:47, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, just blur the ear pink. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 17:59, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Is this supposed to be Cinderfur? I looked and can't find a Cedarfur. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 18:36, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think she does mean Cinderfur. He's on her current projects list  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 21:31, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be more triangular. 雨 晶須  21:56, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ye, I do mean Cinderfur. I just couldn't remember his name, when I made him on Pixlr! Opps... EARTH DAY!  Make sure you recycle! You get $!  15:14, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

I can barely see the shading-- Dark hallows 21:17, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it'll be declined. (I can say that, right?)-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:06, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, as long as you don't actually decline. Will decline and archive in 24 hours if there is no response from the user. Bram ble  11:03, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (D) -- For Approval
I'm hiding under my bed, if you need me. But since there are a lot of images in the CBA stage, I think I'm safe. → •Maple  fern•  ←  23:18, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is beautiful! Great job! The only thing I see is the ear pink and the white/brown transition could be blurred some more. 雨 晶須  01:06, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Awsome job, Maple :) Blur the shading and highlights, make the white on his chest stretch up higher, and add a few stripes to his face; in addition to what Blackclaw said  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 01:24, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Again, when I state 35, I mean 35. That doesn't mean put up another when images are in CBA or if they're being declined. It means put it up when there's room. Anyway, the images is good. I don't see anything other than what has already been stated. -- Bram ble  22:42, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Bramble, I shall not do it again. Anyway, it's fixed. → •Maple  fern•  ←  00:54, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is good, lighten the ear pink, I can barely see it and darken/add shading to the head. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 12:13, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add more shading to the legs, also. And maybe blur the highlights more? Dark hallows 21:16, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred higlights, darkened shading on legs, added shading to head, lightened earpink. → •Maple  fern•  ←  11:37, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? → •Maple  fern•  ←  00:21, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make his eyes a bit paler. Add more stripes to the base of the tail-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   00:32, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Redwillow (A) - For Approval
Well, some images are in the CBA stage, and mine should get approved today, so I think I'm safe. But I think this cat is messed up. He has a girly name, and can willows be red? And...ginger brown cat? *dies* -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 22:02, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Again, when I state 35, I mean 35. That doesn't mean put up another when images are in CBA or if they're being declined, or if your image is very close to being approved. It means put it up when there's room. Now, the image is well done. The only thing I see is that the spots look too regular and poka-dotted. Make them a few different sizes and more irregular, and blur. -- Bram ble  22:44, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm really sorry, Bramble! I promise it won't happen again. And thanks. :) -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 23:24, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add brown patches, and maybe make the mottled more like his warrior image. → •Maple  fern•  ←  10:56, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 12:12, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, Icy this is good! An I mean good! As Bramble said the spots look more like polka dots. Make them like spots. Mist cloud  21:00, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

I would just say Darken shading, and this will be VERY ready. -- Nighty You know what... I like pie. XD 21:05, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The shading made the dark spots a reddish colour...should I keep it that way, or lighten it? Btw, the shading was in the front so the highlight was on her back. Than,ks for the nice comments! :D -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 21:16, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink blends just a tad too much, make it brighter.-- Dark hallows 21:13, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Brightened ear pink, better? -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 21:26, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the head  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:30, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. It wouldn't blur more. -- Icestorm Peace 23:39, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

The patches don't really look like his warrior image -. → •Maple  fern•  ←  23:46, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Maple's right, it doesn't. it's too bright, and there's to dramatic a change between colours. Butterfly } { Song!  16:17, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Um....I copied the colours from his warrior image....-- Icestorm Peace 16:24, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

It's the way you did the shading and highlights. I suggest redoing it because the mottles look more like spots and are too big. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:45, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- Icestorm Peace 23:17, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the image more. It looks a bit yellow right now.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:52, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. - Icestorm Peace 01:18, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a bit. River pelt  00:27, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

There is no highlights...-- Icestorm Peace 00:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar (W) - For Approval
I'm withdrawing Rosetail, so this should be ok. Comments? <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 20:07, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't he have torn ears?  Snickers  20:10, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

His other images don't have torn ears, and I don't want to contradict. It'll probably be fixed next tweak week. <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 20:13, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading and stripes, and darken the ear pink a tad. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 20:16, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! '''20:28, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

There are some stray pixels around his tail.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 00:11, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ''' <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 00:24, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

His tail looks odd... the break point doesn't seem right... perhaps thicken it?-- Dark hallows 21:11, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 23:42, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks unnatural. Maybe make the tip bend down a little, you know, sag? Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   00:35, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 01:06, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Better, but the part circled here-looks more sagged than broken. Can you fix that? I'm sorry I didn't give enough detail before. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   14:30, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 14:36, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

just lighten the pink a tinsy bit it looks brown &lt;fontcolor="Black"&gt;LionClaw&lt;/font&gt;<font color="Yellow" style="background:red;"> Lionclan's coming!

Reuploaded. Better? <font color="Turquoise">Jöhn lënnön <font color="Aquamarine" style="background:white;"> Imagine 15:10, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur some more (Love your siggie :)) Quailflight  09:42, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? (thanks!) <font color="Turquoise">Jöhn lënnön <font color="Aquamarine" style="background:white;"> Imagine 23:35, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Moss (Q) - For Approval


you like? i do i think its my best yet....constructmentsLionClaw132 03:50, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is too dark. Lighten that and make the ear pink smaller. Also darken the shading on the face-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:01, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Where did the image go?-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:35, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

I put it back up. I think this is the right image? Dark hallows 16:03, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

yes thank you! my computer is bieng very very STUIPID it wont let me downlaod it! any ways comments?LionClaw132 00:00, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you blurred the lineart on the back. S n icker s     Life's a rollercoaster 20:28, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Also rename the file to Moss.queen.png S n icker s      Life's a rollercoaster 20:29, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

btw i didnt blur the line art the queen image came like that so it cant be helped but i can fix the file LionClaw132 23:37, May 7, 2010 (UTC)&nbs o i nClaw L     Times running out

Lighten the shading. -- Icestorm Peace 19:41, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

And also thicken the shading-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:26, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

One character reservation per person?
Dunno about this but I'm finding it imposible to find characters to do... I had a hard time finding 'one'... and IDK... maybe it's time we change it to one character per person. At least until a new book is released? Dark hallows 21:40, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I can see where you're coming from but I don't think it's such a good idea. Some people already take down the image they have up for approval to reserve another and I think having only one character per person would encourage. I think we should just enforce( or enstate, I dont know if it's a rule or not) that you have to keep the character that you have up for approval on your current projects list until it's approved. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:46, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Shady, Im going to have to go with Ashy on this one. But, would you be able to change your current project when your image is in the CBA stage; or when it's put on the article  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:12, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking put on the article since last minute comments happen every once in a while. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  23:14, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that makes sense :)  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:16, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

No big deal I don't know if I support this myself-- Dark hallows 23:48, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think it should stay the same because there are always more characters needing art once new books come out. Even if all the chararts are done for some time that means more people will focus on Project Characters. There are still plenty of images do to right now-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:37, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't believe we have to do this yet, but we can do is open opportunites to make non-cat blanks. There are still images needed for dogs, badgers, foxes, horses, etc., and all the invididual characters, such as Midnight and the Rat Leader. That will open a few new characters to do. -- Bram ble  02:56, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

That would be cool :) We could also do lions, leopards, ect. So we could do Fleetfoot, Sunpelt, Thorntooth ect.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 03:04, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

That would be a good idea, now that all the cat blanks have been approved. I'd like to do a rat blank. 雨 晶須  22:51, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

That is a good idea! I personally would like to a tiger blank. S n icker s     Life's a rollercoaster 13:25, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to try a dog blank (perhaps we should have two- small and large? I don't think the rotties in A Dangerous Path look like the JRT in... one of the books). May I reserve that now? Dark hallows 19:17, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, good idea:) I'd like to try out a wolf blank (are we allowed to do blanks for animals that don't have a character part in the story?). -- Ŧ ∆ ķ მ ♰ § Ʊ ო Σ          ö        22:14, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

How would we name them? Like: File:TigerWarriorFemale.blank.png? Or(example): File:TigerLeader.png? We might not have to do Female/Male for a tiger though.... S n icker s     Life's a rollercoaster 00:36, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I think we would have to do male/female for a tiger. Shadestar is a tigress; and Thorntooth is a male tiger  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 01:02, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

I am so with you guys! But if we want to do Pip, we need a dog blank that looks like a terrier.-- Quailflight 09:10, May 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just want to repeat something: "I don't believe we have to do this yet..." - I agree that it's not necessary quite yet whilst there are still characters to do and more books due out soon. I do however think that one current project per person may be the way to go... as in one character per person; the one you have up for approval or are due to put up. I'd also like to remind people that the current projects table is to include the image you have on the page and should only be changed once the image has left the page (either been approved or declined) - some people seem to try and get past this and have 3 by changing their current projects as soon as they put a cat up for approval. ✐Sa  NdY  11:21, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Sandy but I still don't think thats a good idea. An idea I had was to do ranks that a character was never seen as but had to be. An example is Snowbird, she was never seen as a kit or apprentice but she odviously had to have been one at some point in time. What does everyone else think? Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  13:54, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean to be rude, Sandy, but personally, I think that one current project per person isn't such a great idea, because there are still plenty of chararcters to do, so changing it isn't neccasary yet. Also, if we decide that we should start creating non-cat blanks, there will be more characters to do. That's just my opinion, though. 雨 晶須  14:09, May 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * rofl. I'm not going to eat you because you disagree with me ^_^ And I'm not a bomb about to explode either. I just feel that there is no point in having two 'reservations' when only one image can be put up for approval. They just end up sat there for weeks on end as people get their other image approved which narrows down the options for people who get their images approved more quickly. I just brought it up as I think we need to consider all the options, and this was the original point brought up anyway whch was overshadowed by other animal blanks... Okay, Sandy over and out. ✐Sa  NdY  14:17, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

To be honest I agree with Sandy on this point. And whether we change the reservations or not, like she said, you shouldn't remove a character from your list before it gets approved, because then, if someone searches for that character in the table, and thinks nobody has it, they can reserve it not know you have it up for approval, and it only causes trouble. I don't think we need to do animal blanks quite yet, maybe soon, but not necessarily right now. And keep in mind that adding animal blanks would only add a small number of chararts to do, since there are very few other animals, and could incite more arguments over who gets to do those few.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 16:09, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

I personally agree with these two. If there can only be one image up for approval, then there should only be one current project available. This would prevent, as Sandy said, the users who get their images approved quickly from having a smaller number of choices. One equals another; one up for approval, one current project. It would prevent a current project just sitting there for the two-week limit while a user's other image is in the approval stage. In any case, a one-current project per person seems like the best way to go... it might also prove an incentive for users who take a considerable amount of time getting one done to get it done more quickly so they can get another character before they run out, instead of knowing they have tons of time on their hands to get it approved as the other is 'reserved' in the table. About the other animal blanks; we do NOT need to do those yet. I was speaking of a time in the near future, not right now. -- Bram ble  21:52, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

I agree too:) So, do we have to take down our second current project now or some other time? -- Ŧ ∆ ķ მ ♰ § Ʊ ო Σ          ö        19:15, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well if we're going to do this I think a notice saying that the image you have up for approval should stay on your current projects until approved/declined. Some people put an image up and change their reservations which causes a lot of confusion. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:40, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Look Here
Sure, I can do that easily. I'll give 24 hours for everyone to notice this, and then post up a notice letting them know that their current project should include the one on this page until it is approved/declined. Tomorrow I will be removing the second column in the current projects, so everyone please be ready. -- Bram ble  03:15, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

I don't necessarily agree with this... I've had enough change for one week. But Sandy makes a valid point, and now it probably will be easier to reserve chararts. But are you going to remove the column on this ---> side? I just want to be sure so I can keep the project I want.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 06:59, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (W) for approval
Okay,I guess it was up before but i was really busy with cats of the clans so i didnt get to approve her. I did her again. Um..so what do you think?(i know shes rubbish and i'm happy to do her again) Clar  ris  sa! :)  10:03, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

No, she isn't rubbish. But add some highlights on the areas that would kind of stick out, blur the ones you already have, make the earpink a bit more visible and add shading on the edges. Butterfly } { Song!  16:10, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Her pelt is too dark. According to her article, she is dark gray, not black. You could try to lighten her pelt a lot, or redo her with a dark gray color. 雨 晶須  17:43, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Add highlights to the haunch. There is nothing there. Quailflight 09:08, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Quailflight 23:45, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Firestar (W) - For Approval
Comments? Did I make him too red? I copied the deputy image.-- Quailflight 04:02, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! The eye line art is a little blurred. Make him more orangey. Darken the tail and arm stripes-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   04:12, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I redid the image. Comments?-- Quailflight 09:06, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too dark, and blur the shading. 雨 晶須  14:11, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. That's as far as the blurring will go.-- Quailflight 21:55, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

'''I want to reupload it but it won't load! Can is it a glich or something?'''-- Quailflight 08:39, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Try uploading it again. _  Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 20:20, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED.-- Quailflight 06:14, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Comments? Quailflight 05:27, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Just sharpen the stripes a bit more and make the ear pink a bit brighter. River pelt  00:18, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I really need some help with the blurring and the earpink. Can someone help me? -- Quailflight 11:07, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Adderfang (D) - For Approval
Hey, guys! Sorry for not contributing to the project lately. =P Our computer broke down a couple months ago, and I've been using my mom's laptop ever since. I thought Pixlr wouldn't really work well on her computer, but I think Adderfang turned out alright. What do you guys think? Oh, and also, I drastically changed his deputy image from his warrior image because I was planning to re-do his warrior image during the next tweak week. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 20:43, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Um, I'm not sure you can totally re-do another person's image, even for Tweak Week. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   23:45, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Could someone remind me when he was deputy? I don't remember that; but I guess I could have overlooked it in BP  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 00:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

He wasn't. Sunstar's only deputies were Tawnyspots and Bluefur, and Bluestar's deputy was Redtail up until his death. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 01:03, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Huh; where did we get that he was a deputy I wonder? Oh well. Sorry, Honeyfur; is there another cat you can use this as?  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 01:46, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

He was temporary deputy for a while. Kinda like you Night. He filled in while Tawnyspots was sick. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  01:49, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I was the one who did Adderfang's warrior image, so that was why I was planning to re-do him. Also, when Tawnyspots was sick, Adderfang filled in for him, so he was a temporary deputy. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 10:57, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Add a highlight to the chest area. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:41, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? And also, I'm really sorry for causing all this confusion; if Adderfang doesn't work out, I could always choose a different cat. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 20:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight. This is really good!-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  20:17, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Snowflight! I actually re-located the highlight. Is it blurred enough? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:44, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great to me. -- Sandy star 21:28, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Bram ble  10:27, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripes and earpink could be blurred more. Quailflight 05:32, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights can be blured a little more too.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 22:56, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Voletooth (A)--For Approval


This is my 1st charart and I went off of the tutorial pages. Can you help me make this better? Hawkfur7 04:45, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Some of the paint and blur messed up the lineart and I don't know how to fix it. Suggestions?Hawkfur7 04:57, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Layer over another line art. This is really good for your first charart! The eye colour needs to be fixed-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:00, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Adding to that, the image is a little too red. Copy the colour from his elder image and use that-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:06, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Should I make the eyes a lighter shade of green? Is that what you meant? Because I based his eyes off of his warrior picture.Hawkfur7 05:16, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

If I'm making him his elder color, do you want me to make the stripes a darker brown or keep them as is?Hawkfur7 05:25, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Use all the colours from his elder image. For the way the eye should look go here and look under the eye section-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:23, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a more natural color. Sil ver paw Chase that mouse!  19:03, May 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not bad for a first image :) First thing first, the eyes don't have their line art anymore and most of our images keep their lineart of the eyes. When you re-add the lineart like Nightshine said, you should good to go with that. Make the ear pink the same color as his warrior and elder image. His colors look closer to his warrior image so it seems fine, but of course those don't technically match the color of his elder image as they're lighter. Then there's the highlights on his tail, just burn those a little as they're too bright against the rest of his fur.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 22:04, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * How about now?Hawkfur7 04:10, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Convert into a png. This looks like a jpeg. Quailflight 06:15, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Convert into a png. This looks like a jpeg. Quailflight 06:15, May 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Converting might not help...and I just noticed that you named the file wrong too. Change it too Voletooth.apprentice.png if I'm correct I believe--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 21:37, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the weird thing is, I did save it as a png file, not a jpg. But, I resaved and renamed as a png file, just to be sure. It should be fine now.Hawkfur7 05:41, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I also made him more of his elder colors, but lighter. And I fixed the lineart on his body and on his eyes. How is it now?Hawkfur7 05:49, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

He stills looks .jpg...I'm afraid even I have never found a way to undo this. However, I got the reverted version here:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100513053953/warriors/images/archive/c/c7/20100513054716%21Voletooth.apprentice.png

Now I suggest just redoing him with this one, that way you won't have to start from scratch--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 23:53, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

How do you layer over another line art? Because I'm using Pixlr, and everytime I add a layer, it just deletes the one I was working on.Hawkfur7 06:11, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind. I figured it out how to layer over another lineart using GIMP2.Hawkfur7 19:40, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Husker (KP) - For Approval
There are six discussions, so this is technically under the limit. Constructments? -- Ŧ ∆ ķ მ ♰ § Ʊ ო Σ         ö 19:53, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the grey on top of the head just a little more.Hawkfur7 05:44, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Done. -- Ŧ ∆ ķ მ ♰ § Ʊ ო Σ         ö 19:27, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Joining?
Hi! I am Shadowstream, and asked Bramble to join. Bramble said yes, and I am here!! I am looking forward to mothering the Ancient Tribe of Rushing Water, who I have a vivid image of who they look like. Thank you! Shadowstream 23:19, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Shadowstream. I've added you in, though I'm not sure what you mean about mothering the ancient Tribe; anyway, you can find some help for art editing here if you need some help getting started. If you have any questions about getting started, you can direct them at one of our talk pages or here. Thanks, Bram  ble  10:29, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'm having trouble finding cats to do. Are there UPDATED lists of needs to be done? Shadowstream 11:28, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Go here or here. And in the future, please try not to use caps, to some people it is seen as shouting. 雨 晶須  21:12, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Crookedstar (W)-For Approval
Well, this is my first charart, and I think it came out pretty well. Any comments? River pelt  23:52, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

That is REALLY GOOD! Try to make his bottom jaw look... strange. Almost like broken, okay? That's how it's supposed to be! But seriously, it looks nice. Shadowstream 11:22, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I made the jaw look as crooked as i could. Riverpelt 18:04, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

The line art is really blurred. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:54, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

The jaw needs to look like. And the lineart is really blurred. -- 雨 晶須  22:18, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! '''Reuploaded. '''How's that, or do I need to sharpen the line art a bit more? River pelt  22:29, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yes you should. And try expanding the beige on his nect more, and also add sharper edges to the tabby stripes.  Mo us  et  al  on  !!  Here comesSUMMER!  02:24, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

That is awesome! Jut sharpen the tabby a little like Mousetalon said. And try to make his fur an almost red color, like the leader charart. Shadowstream 12:07, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I tried to sharpen the line art more, fixed the beige on his neck, sharpened the tabby markings, and made his fur a red color. Hold on I have to blur the tabby marks more.'''Reuploaded. '''How's this? River pelt  12:54, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

....The whole image looks blurred likes he's just super FUZZY.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 22:58, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry! I'll redo it completely! River pelt  23:32, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I redid the entire charart! Is this any better? River pelt  00:10, May 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Much better...now lets begin. The ear pink needs to lighter as its too dark/bright and it doesn't match his deputy image one as you can see above. He's also missing a patch of tan fur on his front forepaw. The tabby stripes need to be blurred tremindously.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 01:00, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Shimmerpool! Reuploaded. Oops I need to blur the stripes a bit more. Reuploaded. How's this?  River  pelt  11:49, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (A) - For Approval
There are 6 discussions, so I dont think this is over the limit. Comments? Blacktail <font color="#008000">Talk! 00:37, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

It looks really good Blacktail! Just make the ear pink color more visable. River pelt 00:43, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, River! Reuploaded. Blacktail <font color="#008000">Talk! 00:47, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

I added you to the current projects table, Blacktail, as Warriors808. You can add in your current projects there now; you're near the bottom of the table. Just use CTRL + F to find yourself if need be. On the image, nice job, but the ear pink needs to be a hotter and more visible pink; try a little darker and less dull. Also add a white pixel to the eye to give it some life. Bram ble  10:44, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wow...This is better than mine. Quailflight 05:29, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:26, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Rainfur (Lo) -- for Approval
Hi This Is My Import for Rainfur of SkyClan as a loner. I know it's small, I'll make it bigger soon!Thanks! Sunspirit

Next time, Sunsp

irit, start a new section. I'll wait for the one to come up before commenting. → •Maple  fern•  ←  10:39, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I'm New so I dont Know That Much! :( Sunspirit 21:48, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry. No one is mad at you. Everyone makes mistakes when they're new. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:52, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

De-thumbed it. Fix the blurred part by the back ankle.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  21:23, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Erase some of the markings outside the line art. River pelt  00:22, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay.. Is That Better? ( This Is My First :) ever one) Sunspirit- The Way the Breeze Whispers 05:23, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oakheart (A) - Declined


My first attempt at a Charart. I don't know what it is, but something just doesn't seem right about it...Copperpelt 01:01, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Make the line art black and darken the ear pink-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:05, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Reuploaded. Is it better now? Copperpelt 01:21, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more up some more so it isn't touching the line art-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:25, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

He was never seen as an apprentice. <font color="#333399">Mo <font color="#3333CC">onp <font color="#333399 ">elt  <font color="#3366FF ">₪   01:34, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

He wasn't!? *face palm* It's an awesome image though-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:40, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Well, on the list it said that Oakpaws apprentice pic was still needed... Reuploaded. Does the ear pink need blurred more?Copperpelt 01:44, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

What list?-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:47, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/User:Sandstar12/CharartList That one... Should I have looked at the other ones too? :S Copperpelt 01:49, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh dear, once again this is my fault. I apologise again for messing up on that list; I made it a while ago and would have just gone with whatever his page said at the time so it may have been because of that or it may have been me making a genuine mistake out of the 600 characters I added to the main copy of that list on my cp. I would suggest you look at User:Nightfall101/Articles that need images instead as she is much better at keeping it updated and my list seems to cause more trouble than it solves. Sorry again. -- Sandy star 08:04, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I don't mind. He was fun to make. Will it still be added or will I have to try a different character?Copperpelt 08:12, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm very sorry Copperpelt, you'll have to find a different character. He looks amazing for your first charart, and he shows a whole lot of potential. This was nobody's fault, not Sandy's, not yours, nobodys'. He won't be added, but I bet your next one will :) Will archive in the next 24 hours.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 07:51, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh well, I'll just do a different one. Thanks~ Could I ask here to reserve Gorsestars deputy pic, or should I make a new messege?Copperpelt 08:24, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Copperpelt, you don't have to keep asking to do chararts. You just put them on the current projects list. Quailflight 11:04, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Owlwhisker (Ki) - For Approval
There are a lot of discussions, and this is section 36, so this should be under the limit, but if it's over then please let me know. Image-wise, this is by far fail. I know that the stripes are way too dark, but when I lighten them you can't see them. Comments and suggestions? 6  Ice  thr  oat   8  Only two more weeks left of school! 02:19, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, just blur the tabby stripes a little more. =) Poppystorm Flight of an Eagle 18:00, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Pebblefoot (Ki) ~ For Approval


Sorry again for my terrible activity level, but I decided to look for a kitty to do. ^-^ I'm in a pretty good mood right now (I acted as a mother to a litter of pups, and learned that one of them ended up being my neighbor's dog!!! *squeals*), so sorry if I'm over the page limit, but here's pebblefoot as a kit. Comments?  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 15:59, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Owlfur (W) -- For Approval
This probably isn't my best charar ever, but anyway, comments?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  22:51, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'm Back :D
Okay, I'm back! Sorry I've been gone for a week! My family moved Tuesday, and I've been without the internet and cable for almost a whole week. It seems that I've missed a few things; so firstly I welcome the new members of PCA who joined in my absence :) Second, I'll get Dapplepaw up when we get the computer she's saved on to our new house.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:54, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sandstorm (A) ~*~ Declined
I tried to copy her tabby markings but I just couldn't make them match as much as i hoped to. Any comments?Dawnleaf 04:05, May 16, 2010 (UTC)Dawnleaf

Dawnleaf...please look like I've told you before. Moonpelt has Sandstorm's apprentice image up for approval already; it's the tenth one down. Will archive later.

Join
May I join this project? Lightpelt 11:58, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Joining
Hi! I love art and tried out my first charart yesterday, it wasn't very good, so I'd like to join and be assigned a mentor as soon as you can :] FrostHeart 08:18, May 16, 2010 (UTC)