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Unknown residence blanks - for approval
Bam. thanks so much guys i appreciate it :3 13:55, 3/25/2019

can you shrink the blanks? they look awfully big compared to the rest. 15:08, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

I think the ears need to be smaller (height-wise) and possibly rounder. 16:47, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

I like these Winter, but can you shorten the noses a bit? By two pixels? 22:09, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

Can't pretend to be any expert in cat anatomy, but should the tail but arched over the back for balance? 23:11, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

The nose looks fine imo Malina457 (talk) 15:59, March 26, 2019 (UTC)malina

The tail on the shorthair should taper out towards the tip. Also, there's a stray pixel to the right of the shorthair's chin  16:02, March 26, 2019 (UTC)

Is it possible to remove the third and fourth line on the front leg farthest from us? Right now, it looks the like the cats have six toes. I suck at anatomy so you don't nescessarily have to do it. :) 23:35, March 26, 2019 (UTC)

Thats the dew claw though? Also yeah the noses are fine. If i shorten them itll look weird. Also no the tail was like that in the ref i used. Im caught on mobile rn and will work on fixing the issues tomorrow 00:08, 3/27/2019

Paw looks fine too Malina457 (talk) 00:26, March 27, 2019 (UTC)malina

i think the issue that potato was talking about regarding the nose is that the entire face is exaggerated to be slightly wider as a part of a style. im not sure if blanks are allowed to be stylized this way, but if it is necessary for it to be anatomically correct i believe that [https://images.unsplash.com/photo-1518791841217-8f162f1e1131?ixlib=rb-1.2.1&ixid=eyJhcHBfaWQiOjEyMDd9&w=1000&q=80 the muzzle should be rounded (and shortened), as well as the nose. i also think that the eyes should be shrunken as they shouldnt take up such a huge proportion of the face]. 00:50, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

Pad (ki) - For Evaluation
did i name this rightWillowstep12 (talk) 15:43, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

am i allowed to do this?Willowstep12 (talk) 15:45, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

I'm honestly not sure given that this is a blank redo. As one of Broken's images, would this count as an original technically?

...sorry i did not knowWillowstep12 (talk) 15:54, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

Were...were kits even decided to be done yet? I don't recall a verdict being reached.

19:45, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

Kits will be done next month. However, this can be converted a to minor character (like a tortie kit) if you make it look like one Willow. For now, it doesn't appear you saved the image correctly, as this is a thumbnail. Click the image on the main page, click the file name, then right click and click "Save as" and name it, for example, TPB-kit-2 and the .png will stick on the end. It doesn't appear you are using layers as the colors are leaking past the lineart. See Apprentice Tutorials. Add shading to the front leg, face, and tail. The remaining shading needs to be blended. You can try the Smudge tool (10 pixels at 40 percent is best.) Make sure to take you time! 22:00, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

The lines seem to be somewhat blurry, similar to what Greenflower said. Also, maybe add some depth to the eyes as well as shines? -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  01:11, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

i will try, its my first charartWillowstep12 (talk) 18:21, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

where should i place the shadingWillowstep12 (talk) 19:16, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

There should be a tutorial on light sources in the Apprentice Tutorials. 22:08, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks will check  that out will update image on mondayWillowstep12 (talk) 18:46, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

re uploaded how did i do with the shadingWillowstep12 (talk) 12:45, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

De-thumb the image by going into source mode and removing the |left|. 13:02, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I removed the thumb tag from the image. Other than that could you define and extend the shading - I believe it's coming from the back but it's hard to see. Also I think there needs to be shading on the head, paws and tail. 15:27, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

re uploaded added the shadingWillowstep12 (talk) 16:45, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Remember to not thumb your images. If you're unsure how to get rid of it, remove the thumb from this and that'll fix it. Add shading onto the tail and all the legs and paws, and add some to the side of the head too. Line art appears to be missing as well, can you fix that? 16:52, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

This needs to be named File:Pad.kit.png, or it won't work with the wiki's templates. Also, you shouldn't be doing this on one layer, because if you do that, lineart can be erased. Have you tried using multiple layers? If so, you should get into a habit of doing that. 22:09, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I am using mumble layers  but I flatten the image to blend and shadeWillowstep12 (talk) 00:45, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

re uploaded fixed it i thinkWillowstep12 (talk) 12:45, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Don't thumb the image. That messes up the structure of the page. Also, I don't think we're starting kits yet.. 12:58, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

should i remove this sectionWillowstep12 (talk) 13:05, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Actually, this could stay up if you change it to a minor character. You can check the charart page for a full list of minor kits that need images. However, this counts as a kit (and a redone image of the blocked user Broken Foot), which will be redone along with warriors in the summer. 22:09, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Also, this is still thumbnail-sized. Use this and do the image on that. Then it should no longer look shrunken. 22:13, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Birdsong (E) - For Approval
I'm so proud of this, also dont worry ill get to the blanks soon. just taking a small break from that 11:31, 3/30/2019

It's alright Winter! With blanks, there's no limit. Add shading depth to the image. 12:26, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

reups there was already shading depth, but i just made it darker 14:48, 3/30/2019

Would you object to adding a bit more white, since she's explicitly called "tabby-and-white", alongside her white belly cite? I had to double-check to see what white she did have, since your light source hides most of it. I'm not saying you need to change the shading or anything of the sort, just perhaps add a patch or two more of white in other places as well.

Could you define the shading a bit more on the front paws? 15:22, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Still working? 15:10, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Yes ill get to it later today. Sorry ive been super busy 16:42, 4/04/2019

Expand the haunch shading and maybe define the earpink a bit more? It really kinda blends in with the color of her fur. 22:28, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Bluestar (Alt. Star 4) ~ For Approval
Since the pale is now considered a mistake, I believe she'd get this. Comment? 16:38, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

Wait doesn't PCA usually just rename the current images in cases where the old main description becomes an alt? Like with longtail and mapleshade? Or is it more of a case-by-case kind of thing?

Unless she was called multiple times (I think.)  Smooth out the belly shading where it touches the tail and maybe define the light on the chest? 18:40, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm... that pale was when she was a glowy StarClan cat. Not entirely sure it's warranted

Reuploaded. 19:52, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

i suppose it'll be up for discussion but no harm in CBAing now

Wait what is this alt for exactly? If it's for her ravenpaw's path appearance, she should be a lot more blue, and maybe a smidge darker depending on how it looks once she's more saturated. She'd also need to use the shorthair blank, and there's no pale markings on her tail.

If it's for some other appearance than the cite should really be added to her page.

Actually, it's for being called just pale in The Sight. 15:29, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

isnt there already a pale image tho? the one that was previously her starclan image. 05:35, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

I like it! I really like the shading, and color! -Texas

Smokefoot (E) ~For Approval
Shading is hard.

01:26, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to say this, but define it more. I have to zoom in close to see it. I also think there's an unfilled pixel on the tail? 01:43, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add depth to the ear pink? It seems a bit flat.  Ellie  life is an illusion 03:35, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

06:06, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Shading could still use defining

Reuploaded

19:44, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. 22:09, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

03:03, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

hm the shading could still use some defining. try darkening it and then using a 40 opacity eraser tool to erase the edges? 05:18, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Updated.

02:44, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Add some more shading along the bottom of the face and the ears. There's also leaking shading on the front elbow area. You're doing great! :) 21:54, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Vec, I think I got it? I'm just terrible with shading lmao.

22:51, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

waste behind the head

Moss (KP) (KP)- For Evaluation
Comment Away!-- 18:54, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Looking good! Her muzzle looks a bit bright compared to the rest of her set, so darken it up a bit. Expand the shading everywhere, but particularly on the hind legs. 19:14, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Egg! I colorpicked off the loner, not sure why it looks brighter. Will fix momentarily. 19:45, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't want to expand it anymore on the tail, or I'll be told to define the light. 19:54, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe smoothen out and blur the shading more? -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  22:35, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Of course! I'll do that in a little bit. 22:39, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Shadow, can you be more specific on where it needs to be smoothed out? 22:52, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

The shading on the back of the haunch and shoulder! -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  22:58, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Can you expand it more on the <--- haunch and stomach? The shading is also leaking on the collar. Also, I feel like the shading tint clashes with the color of the image. Maybe make it darker? 23:14, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Vec, where is it leaking on the collar? And can I gently ask for a second opinion on the tint? Silverfur used a similar color on Flailfoot's tunneler. 23:37, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded for other commments 23:48, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Darken and define the shading. I can't see it at all. ​​​​​​

red line. And the tint is darker on Flailfoot's tunneler since it was tweaked. Darkening the tint might also help with darkening the shading overall, forgot to mention earlier ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 02:59, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

i appreciate you mentioning me ^^ could i ask what's the black specks near the rear leg? -- 11:34, 4/01/2019

To explain comments:

Vec: It isn't leaking, it's just light shading. I'll fix it next upload.

Silver: That's a layer goof, fix next upload.

Jayce: I'll saturate the shading a bit, but like 2 clicks or so otherwise it'll look neon. 22:06, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded here's your proof shading isn't leaking. Better? 23:06, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Could you make the shading a bit darker? I can't really see it. 23:09, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, I didn't say you had to saturate the shading. I couldn't see it, meaning it should probably have the opacity turned up. The tint itself is perfectly fine as-is, and you're right that multiple people have used that tint before. ​​​​​​​

Reuploaded sorry, got confused with your's and Vec's comment. Anywho, I don't want to darken it much more or the lineart won't be noticeable anymore. Better? 23:31, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

The shading is leaking on the ears, belly, tail, legs and back ^^  -Shadow   It's a prosthetic  23:36, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I think with the source I'm using, there shouldn't be shading on the back. Shadow, can you screenshot where? 00:11, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Looks like you've got waste all over the image. 01:46, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

I don't think there is any waste on my screen in PS, but this may be a result of blurring the shading and I'll check tomorrow. 02:09, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded you were right, and there was waste. If it is still showing up, I'll wave the eraser in those areas tomorrow. 02:32, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

going to nitpick on the shading as it's really light and makes the image odd. it can be tweaked by making the layer mutiply and making the tint a darker blue. -- 04:46, 4/02/2019

Reuploaded changes aren't showing yet. 21:43, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Changes are now showing. 22:09, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth the shading out more? 05:17, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

There's waste around the tail, paws and legs. 12:37, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I went ham with Gaussian Blur. Better? 22:36, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Blur the gray muzzle and ear-pink and I really can't tell where the light it coming from 00:19, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'll blur the muzzle, but can I gently ask for a second opinion on the earpink? On a previous declined art, I tried to blur it but it looked like a hot mess. The light is coming from the right, so the shading is on the left. 00:49, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded for paler muzzle if I need to blur more just let me know. 00:53, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

you still need to smooth out the shading. 02:17, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Used the smudge tool this time. 21:57, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Theres waste everywhere outside the image 23:53, 4/04/2019

Reuploaded if it's still there, idk what to tell you because I'm pretty sure I erased it all. 01:07, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

It is still there unless the changes are not showing. Try having a white background so that you can see the waste more clearly.

Rosetail (E) ~ For Approval
back and ready for the elder rush

15:00, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Did you fill in the nose? It's either not filled in or is a very light color. Define/Darken it. 22:11, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

The nose is filled in and doesn’t need defining. ​​​​​​

Stripes seem to fade in color a bit more as they go down the front legs on the other images^^

Longtail (e) ~ For Approval
his stripe pattern is annoyingly spacy but ya' know.

15:34, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Would you object to softening the stripes every so slightly? These are a tiny bit sharper than his other images. It's not a lot, and I apologize if this is insanely picky. ​​​

Can you make his eye more cloudy? On the original elder and the soon-to-be redone warrior, it was completely clouded over and the pupil wasn't visible. If I'm wrong, you don't have to do it. ;) 22:27, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

One-eye (E) ~ CBA
She... -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  17:46, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Her eye should be cloudy, to match her queen. 22:05, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

She has already lost her eye at this point, so she shouldn't match the queen  22:35, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure the light source. It looks like its coming frkm two different ways. Could you fix that?  Ellie  life is an illusion 00:53, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Add more shading inside the missing eye socket. Right now it looks more like she has a really big cherry eye 04:26, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded! The shading is coming from the upper right by her face. -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  20:44, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading to the --> ear? Looks a little flat. 12:46, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded! ''' -Shadow   It's a prosthetic  01:11, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 12:13, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Poppydawn (Alt. E)- For Evaluation
Comments? Also, does Scarlet has to match my lineart or do I have to match hers?-- 02:22, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Scarlet posted hers first, therefore you need to use hers, not the other way around. I saw that message to Scarlet and you are mistaken. ​​​

It's fine, I thought whoever reserved her first would use her lineart, then. I'll ask her to email it to me, and then I'll fix things later. 02:34, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Nope, it's whoever gets it posted to the approval page first. The only time that doesn't apply is when it's discussed first via the people involved in the images. ​​

Thanks for clearing that up, any tips on how to copy the lineart using PS? 22:16, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

I seem to have figured it out. Will reupload soon. 01:25, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

However.. I appear to have problems making the background transparent. Any tips on how to fix that? 02:25, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

magic wand + delete 05:16, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

PS doesn't have a magic wand, it's a magic eraser. I tried using it, and it deleted not only the background but the lineart. Any other solutions? 22:25, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Actually, they do! And it worked because I was dumb and used the wrong tool! Thanks Burnt! Will reupload in a moment. 22:38, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Okay I deleted the background, but for some reason after the first time, it deletes the lineart. How do I fix that? 22:41, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

chek "sample all layers" on your magic wand tool and make sure the tolerance is 0 02:15, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

I tried that and it's still deleting the lineart. Photoshop, what is your problem? *shakes Photoshop* 22:05, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

hmm could you add some shading to the shoulder? -- 10:34, 4/05/2019

Cinderfur (E) - For Approval
Haven't done one of these in too long Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 02:47, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and paws? 12:05, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

smooth out the haunch shading a tad 19:53 Tue Apr 2

Where is the lightsource coming from? I can't tell. 22:11, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

looks like the top left? -- 01:50, 4/03/2019

Blur/smudge the earpink into the fur a tad more- it just looks hard. 02:11, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Mistpelt (E) - For Approval
she's baby 19:52 Tue Apr 2

Define the light source on the ear and paws? 21:48, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

smooth out shading?Willowstep12 (talk) 12:48, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded did this in lecture lol 15:05 Thu Apr 4

Could you define the earpink, or remove some of the shading that's in the ear? 21:51, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Seedpelt (GC) (E) ~ CBA


can you smooth out the shading? 05:15, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

CBA? 21:50, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Mosspelt (E) - CBA
Everyone always talks about Mistystar when referring to old cats, but this is one old lady! 01:10, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

can you define the shading on the front paws? 02:25, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

reup also fixed a color matching problem  14:14, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. Can you add a touch of shading just at the base of the chest? Ik the source is heading < way, but even so just with how the pose is, there'd be a little there

reup  14:25, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

I think the texture is sharper on the other images. Also, feel free to disagree, but I think there would be some tortoiseshell pattern on the left portion of the front paws? The white here seems pretty far up the leg than the other images imo. 21:57, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

reup ah texture, my old enemy  22:59, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Goosefeather (E) ~ For Approval
All colors from MC/Star image, which I have the files for. Also, I realize I forgot rheumy eyes; I'll fix it tomorrow. Comments? 03:53, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth out the shading? 05:16, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:15, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe add some shading to the shoulder/upper arm? 12:11, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. There was shading there already, so I just defined it. 18:02, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Millie (alt elder)- CBA
shucks you cant match your own image fr the life of you oof 05:10, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 12:10, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Tiny black kit (Ki) - For evaluation
I hope it's not weird- my first ever charart!



09:03, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

hello, you need to add shading to the image. what program are you using? check out the tutorials if you need help, or dont hesitate to reach out to anybody here 09:13, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Add earpink and nosepink. 13:04, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

darken the the eye puple, what program are you using?Willowstep12 (talk) 13:09, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

I do have GIMP-but it's hard, so yeah. My paint program that's I'm using i don't think it works well without transparent images. Welp I'll use something else. And I did add shading, but it's not that dark I think. I'll add earpink and nosepink.

There! I fixed it (I hope :P)

That's better. However, by the looks of it, you aren't using layers, which means colors can leak past the lineart. Don't get me? See Apprentice Tutorials. Smudge the earpink into the fur more- use the smudge tool at 10px at 40% strength. You can also blur the earpink too using the blur tool or going to filters>blur>Gaussian Blur. Gaussian Blur is really good ;). You also have missing lineart in some places, and finally, add shading. Grab a color (Blue or Red is best) put it on the pelt following a light source, then lighten it with the opacity bar. Then blur or smudge it till it's nice and smooth, then set the layer to multiply to make it darker so it doesn't clash with the base. This is good for your first charart! 22:21, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

try a grayish redish pinkisk color for ear pink,  i dont think pastel pink is a good choise for catsWillowstep12 (talk) 12:46, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

There-redone it!



The lineart is a bit blurry, are you using layers? are there layers in your art program? -- 10:16, 4/05/2019

Frostfur (E) ~ For Approval
didn't feel like doing fancy patterns today

Cloud With Star in Belly (E) - For Approval
14:59, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the earpink slightly? 01:19, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Brokenstar (E) - For Approval
why do i do these things to myself? 16:39, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front of him (legs, tail, face, etc.). 22:25, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 00:14, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

theres one little speck of waste on his chest fur -- 10:31, 4/05/2019

could you possibly make the fur vary a bit more so that its not as uniform and that it looks more natural? 12:09, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Flamepelt (E) - For Approval
16:39, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

His tail and legs seem to be striped on his other image

Ashfur (SC) ~ For Approval
I think its alright to make his eyes green instead of blue? his eye color was never specified.... 19:13, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the --> ear? And yeah it's super minor so it should be ok :) 21:42, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Might just be me being dumb, but wasn't he listed with blue eyes? On his page it says he is. However, I'm not anyone of high status here so it doesn't matter much. -- John made it. He’s the only one. Rest of us… no.  But… I tried. In the end. I did.  23:58, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Where on his page? I just checked and there is nothing about blue eyes.. 00:25, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Birdy Kittypet Charart - Declined
This is my first Charart! Hopefully it looks good!

MiphaZora (talk) 20:59, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to Comment! :>

As stated above, Birdy was a kit at the time, and thus won't get a kittypet image. A full list of characters that need art are listed here. Also make sure you comply with the naming guidelines ex. Pad.kittypet.png 21:40, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Lilywhisker (E) ~ For Approval
Her hind leg is a nub >.< 22:09, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Isn't the crippled hind leg on the other leg or this one? It's on the other one on the tunneler. 22:24, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Nah, it's on the right leg...literally the right hind leg. 22:36, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Mottled Brown Warrior - Declined
Hopefully it looks alright, trying to improve!

MiphaZora (talk) 00:58, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Feel free to comment!

Star already has this reserved. 01:06, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I didn't know it was reserved. I'll just close it, sorry for the inconvenience! MiphaZora; Waddle Dee 01:09, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Declined due to another user claiming this prior. Make sure to check and use the reservation table before putting an image up for approval. 01:17, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Nettlebreeze (E) ~ For Approval
heres a baby note: the thing under the eye is just watery. baby has rheumy eyes. -- 07:49, 4/05/2019

There appears to be more stripes on his other images

reups how about this? -- 13:01, 4/05/2019

Tawnyspots (E) ~ For Approval
-- 10:37, 4/05/2019

Seems like there's a dorsal stripe on the star, and the stripes are thinner

there actually is a dorsal, it's just really undefined. -- 12:44, 4/05/2019

reups is this better? -- 12:58, 4/05/2019