Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Archive 87

Flecked Tabbies
Okay, so I had a question, and two people said to come here. I tried searching up "flecked cats" in Google Images, and all I got were images of tabby cats, with spots rather than stripes. So would that make Ashfur, Ferncloud, and others spotted tabbies rather than flecked?

No, not necessarily. Ashfur and Ferncloud already have a tabby pattern mixed in with the flecks. Plus, there isn't really a difference between "flecked tabbies" and "spotted tabbies". 19:06 Sat Dec 6

Palebird as a non Pregnant Queen
She stayed in the nursery for a /long/ time after Tallstar's apprenticeship. Does she get an alt? --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:48, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, and I think it's currently being worked on by another user. 19:05 Sat Dec 6

Alt for Mothwing?
I'm not sure about this, but in the Clans of The Clans Mothwing is shown with white paws, a chest and a muzzle. I was wondering if it would warrant an alt because Onestar has one for white paws, chest and muzzle. Burntclaw (talk) 00:18, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

You mean Cats of the Clans. :) I see your point, and The Ultimate Guide uses the same picture too. --Stealthfire star (talk) 00:35, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

I've seen that picture before, and it doesn't look white. I don't know if you've noticed, but a lot of characters have that paler area around their muzzle. Also, you can't tell her chest is pale, since it's in a lot of shade. Onestar got the alt because he is obviously shown with white/cream parts, including on his tail and the rest of his body. With Mothwing (and many others), it just looks like a normal part of her design. Someone said one time that was a ginger color too, when it looks golden to me. So, no, I don't think she should get it, given that we can't, with 100% clarity, say that it's white. It looks pale/lighter to me, but not white.

No, I don't think she should get the alt because, as Snowed said above, a lot of characters have paleness shown, and I don't think it differs from her current descrition enough to warrant an alt. 19:04 Sat Dec 6

Kits and queens?
I'm confused, can we reserve a kit and a queen? Because people have got two images reserved, one in the tweak section, but if it's a tweak, shouldn't it be on the tweak page? 13:03 Mon Dec 1

They're redone queens, but since they're new blanks, they have to go on the approval page. You can have one redone queen and one new image of your choosing.

Could you add all the queens needing to be redone to the Charart list? Because I'd like to do one if any are still available, but I don't have any time to go looking to see who needs one and who doesn't. Thanks~ 16:00, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, Frosty, but I just checked for you, and they all appear to be taken. 16:17, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

Oh that's fine. I probably wouldn't have the time to do both anyway. Thanks for checking though! 14:14, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Ancient Lake Leaders
I'm not sure where the previous discussion went but I agreed with it.

For those that don't know what I mean, the ancient lake cats had leaders, as actually proven on Furled Bracken's page and Stone Song (P3)'s page. They have the leader position, preceded by and followed by listed and even leader under the names section. I think an ancient lake leader image completely fits. Even though there is only two confirmed, who knows? The Erin's might focus on the ancients again.

My idea for a look is like []. It's a basic sketch. Just a similar to sharpclaw except the paw is down and the tail is curled, makes it feel more assertive like a leader.

So, what do you think?

PS: The tail is from the ancient tribe cat, so credit to the artist! And also credit to the artist of the Sharpclaw blanks! --Stealthfire star (talk) 05:57, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Eh, we only have two, so is it really needed? Given that the Ancient cats that Stone Song and Furled Bracken are...it's really unlikely that we'll see them again. Their story is done, and the only leader blanks like that we need are the healer ones. Also, please give credit to the artist of the sharpclaw blanks as well, since it looks like you pasted the tribe cat tail onto it and tweaked the one leg.

We don't need a separate blank for them. And even if we did, I'd rather you didn't go splicing other people's blanks together, even with credit. Sorry, but no. Totally unnecessary. 11:18, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that we only just talked about this. No, I agree with Jayce and Shinx; it's unnecessary, and like Jayce mentioned, there's only two. 15:17, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

We did just talk about this, and I disagree. It's unecessary, as said above. 19:02 Sat Dec 6

Tribe of Endless Hunting
I'm letting it all out today!

Before I even joined the warriors wiki, I looked at the list of Tribe of Endless Hunting residents and was confused, StarClan has a charart, why not Tribe of Endless Hunting?

I think they should get a charart of their own, it just made sense. I partly joined the project to help make it happen honesty. :)

I'm thinking of something like []. Again, this is a basic draft. The tail is just straighter and the paw is curled. I have a cat and when he relaxes, he curls his paw like that, flexing his claws, doesn't matter what position his lying down. However, I'm also interested in other ideas too. :)

What do you think? Credit to the artist of the StarClan blanks!--Stealthfire star (talk) 06:07, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

We gave the StarClan cats blanks because they have no ranks once they go to StarClan. We don't know anywhere near enough about the Tribe of Endless Hunting to properly give them a blank. For all we know, they could still have their own separate ranks. Also, please credit Breezey for your edit, as those are her blanks, and I don't know if she'd appreciate them being used without crediting her.

To add to Jayce's comment, we have a cite from Vicky's facebook that they maintain their ranks. 10:42, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

This has been talked about many times, and I don't think it's needed. Also, we can't just tweak an existing blank into a new one, unless it's a permanent queen. 15:19, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think they're needed because there aren't very many of them to begin with and because, as Snowed said above, we don't know if they kept their ranks or not. 19:00 Sat Dec 6

Join requests
How can I join the project for charart? I would like to join. FireTail101 (talk) 00:08, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

Hello anyone? FireTail101 (talk) 18:18, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Can any one approve please FireTail101 (talk) 01:33, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

Hi
Can I also join? B L  A ZE Fi  r E 09:28, December 4, 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to join, too. 15:27, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Hello? e.o 20:50, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Ivypool Character Pixels
I think her character pixels section has been messed with or faulty, or there was a change I don't understand.

I know her apprentice needs to be tweaked to match the kit and warrior but that's not what I'm talking about, in the trivia section, it shows she was described as a white tabby, and there was once a white tabby kit pixel. She was also described with a black pelt and I think there was a black cat pixel but there's not one there.

Can someone explain/fix it please? Stealthfire star (talk) 00:58, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, they really should be there. I don't know why they were removed, but I've added them both back. Thanks for pointing that out.

You're welcome. --Stealthfire star (talk) 01:27, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

It looks as if that user saw the two different images and didn't realize what 'alt' meant, believing that the two different ones were put there by mistake. 07:44, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

PCA & PC: What goes to What project?
Hi all, so as I scroll through the feed I've seen a few edits recently that say "PCA decided he should get one," etc, however I wanted to remind everyone what types of character discussions should go to what project.
 * PC: all rank discussions should automatically go to PC, ie if or if not a cat should be a rogue, deputy, loner, etc.
 * PCA: all disputed alts like if a ginger cat was called red, that would go to PCA.

Please remember this and leads please try and if a discussions tarts that shoudl go to PC please forward it to that talk page. Thanks! 01:32, November 15, 2014 (UTC)

At the same time, it's also worth noting that PCA only handles the art- and this includes whether or not to use the descriptions from books like Cats of the Clans and The Ultimate Guide for alts. Since the descriptions are handled by PC, if you're not sure if it goes into the description, then it'll go to PC. Basically, we kinda can't operate (in a certain sense of the word) without PC, since we use the ranks as blanks. Also, if this is about Pinestar, I didn't say anything about PCA lmao The only description things that would come to PCA are ones like the "all ginger cats have stripes" rule, and the "silver tabby" thing that Breezey currently has up. When in doubt, just ask one of the project leads, or other members that would know.

Leafpool Manga alt?
I'm not sure if this counts but in Bramblestar's Storm manga section, Leafpool is shown without white paws or chest. Does that count for trivia and a medicine cat alt? Stealthfire star (talk) 22:12, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's a partial, and in any case, I don't think we do manga alts. 01:25, 11/30/2014

Nah, we do graphic novel alts (they're not manga, fight me on this) if they're a drastic change. Like Lionblaze and Lionheart being depicted as solids instead of the cited tabbies they are, wrong descriptions entirely, ect. Leafpool not having her white paws and chest is just a partial since she's more often than not just called a brown tabby anyways.