Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Outcast - Quote Nomination
Guess y'all are getting sick of me. xD Anyways, I'd like to propose a quote change for Outcast, for I believe that instead of the Tribe needing "real warriors" to defend it, a better quote could replace it, maybe something like the Tribe cats asking for help. Here are the quotes I feel would fit better, but if you disagree, speak up.

1,)


 * "Hollypaw wasn't sure how to reply. She wanted to go straight to Firestar or Leafpool and tell him about his crazy obsession with cats that died out long ago."

Narrator about Jaypaw's crazy obsesion with cats that died out long ago, page 49.

2.)


 * "It was hard to wrench his paws away from the border and start padding back to camp. It's as though the mountains are calling me... But how could he ever answer the call?

Narrator describing Lionpaw, page 74.

3.)


 * "Firestar, we have come to ask Stormfur and Brook to return to the mountains. The Tribe of Rushing Watern needs them."

Talon of Swooping Eagle, page 103.

4.)


 * "Welcome to the Tribe of Rushing Water."

Stormfur to Hollypaw, page 207.

This book didn't give me amazing quotes to choose from. If anything, I like 2 and 3 the best. If I need to find more quotes, tell me, and I will gladly do so. Opinions? 16:13, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Can you find a couple more about the Tribe? 19:32, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

I like 2 and 4. 14:48, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Policy Overhauls
Hey all.

As a few of you already know, I've been writing up proposed overhauls of this wiki's policies. I need as much input from as many people as possible to perfect these policies in ways that suit the entire community, so I'm posting this message in every project in the hopes that some of you will be interested in effecting the rules we live by here.

So, if you're interested in helping out, please come here and leave your thoughts.

Thanks! 15:14, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

The Last Hope/Prologue - Silver Nomination
Yep, created the page and added everything. Comments? 11:59, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Extend the summary if possible.

I can't. The chapter's 4 pages long, and there's nothing else I can add. 23:28, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Comments before vote? 15:15, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

The Last Hope/Chapter 1 - Silver Nomination
Looks completed to me. Comments? 13:06, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Dovewing is a major character, so I think the list should reflect that. Also, adding links wouldn't hurt, either.

Done. 23:39, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

The Last Hope/Chapter 2 - Silver Nomination
Please don't kill me for doing these chapters...I promise, only one more after this. Everything looks good. Comments? 13:04, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Midnight (Book)/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
Yep, I created the page and added everything. Comments? 13:46, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

The Darkest Hour/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
I created the page and all - comments? 15:43, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sign of the Moon/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
Created the page and completed it. :3 15:51, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Limit of nominations per user
Yeah, I'm gonna propose that we have a limit of nominations per user. :P With chapter subpages, there's gonna be a lot going on. I was think maybe each user could have three or four nominations at on time. 15:56, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

I think right now might be a little too early. Maybe we could wait and see how this all goes until we fully decide? 15:57, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Please, keep it at three. I don't want this page flooded with nominations, and then half of them go uncompleted. Remember, we still have to wait until 'Teldy gets back to fully use these pages, as the template hasn't been fixed yet.

Just a question, does that include quote nominations or not? 02:50, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

No, since those are minor nominations. However, try and keep total nominations to around four/five, something along those lines. I really don't want this entire talk page filled beyond reason. XDDDDDD

Thanks. XD 02:57, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Category Reminder
'kay, guys. When you're making the subpages, please remember to add categories. The ones that should be there are the ones that go on a normal page, like the book and arc, as well as a new on, Chapter Subpages. Any questions, please ask.

Sign of the Moon/Chapter 1 ~ Silver Nomination
It's completed, except my computer won't let me add categories, so could someone do that for me? xD 16:28, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

If you can, expand the summary. 16:32, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

I can't, unless you wan't most of it word for word... 17:30, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Into the Wild/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
My first nomination...and somehow I'm deputy. XD Comments? 17:09, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

SkyClan's Destiny/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? Wee, I love SkyClan. <3

Remove the Births, Ceremonies, and Errors parts, as there is none. 15:21, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sign of the Moon/Chapter 2 ~ Silver Nomination
I realize the summary is long, but it's a long chapter, almost 20 pages long... 18:29, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Elaborate the last paragraph in the summary a bit, and remove the section on "prophecies." There are no prophecies, and it's not exactly part of the original layout, so remove it. I think it's needed when there are prophecies. 06:30, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Does that look okay? 17:06, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Yep! 15:20, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

A Thought
Had a small idea. You guys could link to the chapter subpages through the cliffnotes pages if you want, like I tested out here. 19:43, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

We already had that planned out, and 'Teldy made the template. However, we cannot use it until she gets back.

(shrug) Linking to the pages through the chapter headers seems like an easy solution. But whatever works best. 19:46, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Well, we're not going to be using the cliffnotes pages anymore, so it really doesn't matter. The entire plan was to eliminate the cliffnotes in general, as they're obsolete and can't be used to their full potential.

Join Request and a Little Help
Hey, may I join?

Also, I would like to do a chapter subpage (The Darkest Hour/Chapter 22), but I don't know much about it. Could you help me please? 20:48, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

I'll add you in right now. If you want help, you should look at Cloudy's Sketchboard, because she was the user who thought up of the subpages and created the layout. You'll find information there, and on the Guidelines, where you'll also find help for the rest of the Project. Thanks for your interest in joining! 23:33, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Sunrise/Prologue - Silver Nomination
Comments? 02:17, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Put it in present tense. 15:18, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Into the Wild/Chapter 1 - Silver Nomination
Before y'all shout at me, yes the refs are correct, just not for the American version (They're from the UK version). That's the only copy I have so change them if you must x3 Anyway, comments? 16:45, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Can you change Greypaw to Graypaw? 15:17, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

The Forgotten Warrior/Prologue - Silver Nomination
Created the page. I know I'm not the best at explaining things. e.e Comments? 19:52, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Split up the paragraph please. 23:40, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Also put some of the paragraph next to the first sentence. 15:17, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Night Whispers/Prologue - Silver Nomination
Well that took awhile, Comments? 04:50, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Chapters
Hey all,

I see that the chapter pages idea was accepted, and work has already started. Gret job! :)

From what I've seen, the articles are great.

Some suggestions that came to my mind (I regret I didn't check the page earlier, when there was the discussion / vote; anyway, I mention them, and the contributors decide what to do with it).


 * There should be a nav box on chapter pages pointing to other chapters of the book (or at least to the previous and next chapters). For instance, I can imagine a box like this:

This could be for instance in the top right corner (instead of the table of contents, which can be erased with the NOTOC key).


 * I consider self-references a bit redundant; i.e. in "Midnight/Chapter 1" there should not be references to Midnight Chapter 1 (it's a matter of a couple of pages. I think that we lately took up the habit of over-referencing).


 * Empty sections should be deleted as they look as if the article was unfinished; e.g. if there were no births in a chapter, there is no need for a "Births" section


 * Do we need to grade these articles? Grading was useful for Character or World pages, where many authors needed to make an extensive research work of thousands of pages, so it was vital to assess the quality. In my opinion chapters are a bit simple to get grades.

Kind regards, 19:03, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I totally agree with this idea. It would make things a lot easier. 18:54, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Helice, you're epic.

Anyways, we //were// planning on adding a navigation template, but that's 'Teldy's area, and she's currently on vacation. XD I like what you've layed out so far. Perhaps once 'Teldy gets back, we can combine //both// ideas.

Sorry, my previous edit was sent before it was ready - I completed it now. 19:03, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Wee, and now I respond to the rest of your comment. Yes, they should be graded, as the rest of the articles are. Galleries and allegiances are, and all the allegiances are is a simple copy and paste from the book. Personally, I think all project pages should be graded, because if they're not, people are going to think that a half-done summary is okay for these pages, when it's not. The whole point of the subpages is to add more detail, and I think that grading is a perfectly normal way to go about it. Just like in PC, a nomination is a way to allow other members to critique an article and provide their own input. It's perfectly okay, and I'm sure the other members will agree with me. Personally, I see no problem with it, and I'm only allowing three nominations per user at a time.

As for the empty sections, yes, they can be removed. I see no need for them to be there either, as it gives the impression that there's more to be added to the article.

Oh, and I quite like referencing, thank you. We can further verify the information shown in the chapter. Plus, it would really help crack down on the entire "false cite" thing we seem to have going on right now.

So, we remove births ect., if there are none? 20:19, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, please. I think it's kinda stupid to have them on there if there are none. I originally said to just put "none" or something like that, but since when have we really done that? On //any// article? XD

The Darkest Hour/Chapter 22 ~ Silver Nomination
I like how this turned out (especially for a first). Comments 18:38, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

If there are no ceremonies, births, ect, please remove the sections from the page. Could you also try and format it like the others are? Look here for the basics.

I tried, but I'm terrible at coding. 18:49, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Can you lessen the detail a bit? It's not exactly a play. Also, some of it is in past tense. Make it in present. 01:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)