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Dark Whiskers (SC) - For Approval


The key word is blur. The shading and highlights must be blurred together to make the pelt smooth and not blotchy. Use the smudge tool and the blur tool together, do whatever you can to make it a blend of light and dark, and not patches of light on a dark pelt. Everything else looks fine, Shaf. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering, where did it say that he was black? His description on his page just says that he's a big, thick-furred tom. Bring the highlight on his forehead down a bit towards his muzzle. Scarlet wind Medicine cat of SolarClan 15:55, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

His page says "large, thick-furred black tom". Even check the allegiances of Long Shadows if you don't believe me. Shaf, are you still working on this? 21:47, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! My bad! Darken the shading his left, hind leg. Scarlet wind Medicine cat of SolarClan 23:19, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm still working on this. Forgot the date that the project opened again. :P--Shaf Girl  16:03, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred the highlights profusely, but I think all that did was make them smaller and more prominent.--Shaf Girl  16:20, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look very small. Make them bigger and less concentrated-- 00:27, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I kinda redid the entire thing. :3 Shaf Girl  05:40, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink. Maybe instead of brightening the highlights, you can just darken the shading, or try brightening the highlights to see what it would look like-- 06:20, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think this needs any work, as for the highlights/shading. It looks perfect to me, and I don't understand where all the fuss is coming from (no offense, all). But I do agree with Night shine, the earpink should be lightened a bit and blurred. 23:31, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is just my computer, but the eyes look kind of flat. Try adding darker patches to the edge of the eyes. 01:56, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl  01:23, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and maybe make it a bit longer. 00:05, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see any falts with this:) Clarrissa   My Talk Page  18:31, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (K) - For Approval


Take the smudge tool to it. Make the stripes look like faint feathers brushing the pelt, using the images on Creekfeather for reference. The shading needs to be less blocked, and more subtle like shadow. You may even have to completely redo. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 21:48, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'm still working on this, don't worry. I'll reupload it tomorrow--my computer's being slow right now. Foggy Latin Freak 03:48, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 22:27, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy (Alt. Queen) - Withdrawn by User


Shade the strip of white on her back, where the shading ends. If the background is transparent, the shading should have no effect on the background. I see nothing else wrong. Nice job, Elorisa. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the back. 22:26, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I color-picked this, and it needs to be a very very light gray/silver. (barely white) Yours is completely white, change that, but other that and the other stated, it looks good. 22:28, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to withdraw this because I have no time to do it, between school and other wikia duties I have. Someone else can free to work on this. 03:23, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

There's little left to be done; I'll take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the shading along the back less blotchy. 03:31, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Everything has been blurred, the lineart has been fixed, and I've made it slightly more silver and less white. Is there anything else? -- 04:05, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. There is a white pixel on the haunch-- 04:31, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sagepaw (A)- For Approval


Blur all shading thoroughly, particularly that on the haunch. Other than that, very nice, Dovesong12. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! Blur the tail shading and the shading on the back. -- 20:31, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get right to it. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 15:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Had to rename it. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 17:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 17:08, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Sagepaw.apprentice.alt, or it will not show up on his page when it's approved. 11:31, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights brighter. -- 20:07, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

This is his actual apprentice form, I'll rename it Sagepaw.apprentice. Will get to later. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 21:54, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, that's what I meant... so many people name the alternate apprentice images wrong, it was just automatic for me to write that. Thanks for pointing that out! :) 21:58, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticeable. 03:32, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm getting to this, so please don't decline this, for I am VERY busy right now. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 22:00, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnstripe (Q) ~ For Approval


Setting 24 hours before approval. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the stripes could be a tad bit more noticible. Nice job otherwise! 03:34, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Blossomfire ₰Misty's best friend!₰ 20:08, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I think I accidentally deleted it so I copied it from here. I did my best to make the stripes more visible and blur the shading more. &#123;&#123;Nosubst&#124;User:Dappleclaw/sig}} 03:48, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me, or does the entire thing look blurred? Maybe it's my eyesight failing.. 18:48, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

You're right... it's making my eyes hurt. Sharpen the image. 21:45, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I tried, but it looks fine on my gimp file, so let me know if you see a difference. &#123;&#123;Nosubst&#124;User:Dappleclaw/sig}} 22:41, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Looks fine now. There is a pixel of white in her chest fur, fill that in. 22:45, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripes need to be more defined still-- 07:10, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Um I think the only fundamental problem is that, in her warrior image, Dawnstripe's stripes are paler than the usual fur tone. But in this image, they are darker. Not that it matters too much, but I still think it's worth noticing. 13:57, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

@Starrlingflight: What you're saying is like saying, "a zebra has black stripes". It's the exact same thing as saying "a zebra has white stripes". 00:12, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Very true Wildheart. I just thought I'd mention it anyway. 05:45, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

No, Starlingflight is right because it doesn't matter if its like claiming you know that a zebra has black stripes or whatever because her other image is shown with paler stripes. And besides, her description is a creamy golden tabby with barely visible, pale, stripes. 04:05, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

@Mosspool: Kay, not trying to start an argument, but I compared the warrior and the queen side by side and they look almost exactly alike, save for the shading styles and fact that the warrior's stripes are more smudged than blurred. I even used a colour picker tool and the colours are almost the exact same shade.

@Starlingflight: I'm sorry. When you said the stripes were darker, I thought you meant the spaces in between the light stripes, which is why I presented the zebra argument haha. Not saying I agree with what you said, but I was mistaken. 06:48, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 02:34, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Pouncetail (Alt. A) - For Approval


Setting 24 hours before approval. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I can hardly see the shading and highlights. Umm, add more of them, I guess. 22:02, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I can see the shading that they have, but I think that they should add a bit more, like down onto his bottom, and shade his tail. Then blur the shading and highlights. 00:07, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Is this still being worked on? 21:49, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I've added more shading and highlights overall. -- 04:15, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes on the shoulder and haunch longer, blur the ear pink a bit-- 04:30, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I can take over on this since Bramble is gone-- 03:24, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. A) - For Approval


Blur so that the pelt is smoothed, and not blotchy. Use the blur tool and smudge tool, whatever you can, to smooth out the patches of light and dark so it all runs together smoothly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? If so, blur the shading a lot. 21:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shading overall has been modified as well as blurred. I've uploaded twice, but there does not seem to be any change in the actual image. I will check back tomorrow and try uploading again if there is no change. -- 04:27, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I see the changes, I think. XD Move the ear-pink up so it isn't touching the line-art. 23:57, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, blur the shading on the paws and tail. 02:26, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think this is the correct version. The shading looks much to blotchy. 01:00, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Macgyver (W) - For Approval


All the patch transitions and ear pink must be blurred. Shading needs to be added; use the burn tool to add shading along the back, chest, tail, legs and head. You may want to withdraw this and work with our art tutorials on your own, to learn about shading, before you continue to work on this. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks very unnatural. Try using a different, less neon shade, and blur it as well. -- 20:22, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, are you still working on this? -- 07:11, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if to be sounding like I'm nagging, but Bramble may I take over the image? You've taken over a lot of images since the project has just reopened and it seems like a lot on your plate. If not, thats fine since I know you can handle it as leader.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:32, November 29, 2010 (UTC) Blur patches.<font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:19, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if you'll understand but make the image softer. more shading and more buluring with some highlights as well.<span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 22:01, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead, Shimmer. That's fine by me. -- 04:01, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Taking over this image now and I made a new version to make some of the patches match with his kittypet image. Also took the ear pink and eye color from that image as well. I know he's going to need a little more work before approval but just wanted to get this up before my school week began. Comments?-- ❄Shimmery Crystals❄  00:28, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Add/darken shading. 00:53, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

blur the shading. 04:55, December 8, 2010 (UTC)



The way you did the shading interferes with the patches. Make it lighter and blur a ton, also make the patches look more like his kittypet image. (same place and what not) -- 05:12, December 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * His Kittypet image is from a different side and angle so the patches can't exactly be in the same place. I had the two images side by side when making the image. I play with the shading though-- ❄ Shimmering Snowflakes ❋  06:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there is a thick line of gray around all of the patches, get rid of that and blur the shading. Lighten the ear pink and blur it.-- 00:56, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall~Alt (ki)~


Ear pink desperately needs to be blurred; take care not to blur the lineart. Make the pink color fade into the gray, so it is not popping out. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Background also needs to be transparent. 03:35, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

ok i'll get right on itMaplepool 23:00, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

There is one pixel that you are missing; on the back foot. 22:50, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that? Maplepool 23:01, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

oh i see a mistake allow me to fix it before you comment on it^^ Maplepool 23:07, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ok NOW you may comment Maplepool 23:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png there is an extra period there. Darken the shading, make the ear pink more reddish, darken the nose colour-- 04:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

You are still missing that extra pixel. Make the ear-pink smaller. 16:32, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:14, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

The backgound still isn't transparent. 21:43, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

um dumb question how do i make the background transparent? lol^^; sorry i dont know how...Maplepool 14:58, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I can do it for you. 23:25, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

oh PLEASE do it frostheart...I have no clue how^^; and when you do tht i'll make the changes. Maplepool 23:54, November 27, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!

nvm...i'll make the changes then frostheart,if she'll be nice enough,will make it transparent Maplepool 02:50, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!!

 Reuploaded  there i did some extra and if frostheart will mke the background transparnet i'd owe her one ^^ Maplepool 03:10, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!!

Make the ear pink darker. Also, make the highlights brighter and darken the shading. Blur the shading on the tail and on the haunch. -- 20:09, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Birchfall.kit.alt 01:55, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  gah^^; i already did Birchfall.alt.kit.png so to upload it i had to add the two...^^; embarssining... Maplepool 03:40, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the wait, I forgot. :P And I can't upload it, it reverts it to a past..photo. o_o So..I'll tell you how. XD You get the wand tool (looks like a wand. :3) and you click on the background. The kit image has a few loose pixels, so you have to click the strays and erase them. After you click the background, you select the erase tool and erase the background. 03:51, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

ok,thanks^^,I'll get it after school Maplepool 04:05, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that?..i hope i got it... Maplepool 22:43, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

dang i didnt....hold on let me fix that Maplepool 22:45, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading along the edges of his fur where you made it darker. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 22:49, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  there ows that?

Make the ear pinks more even and triangular. 03:34, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded Hows that? Maplepool 22:21, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink fit into the ears. When we say "make it more triangular" we don't mean make it into a perfect triangle, but make it less blobby. Y'know? Also, make the earpink shade a little less violent and blur it a lot. 23:55, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  there hows that? Maplepool 01:52, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

The background should be transparent. Great image, though! 04:19, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  thre got it^^ Maplepool 13:24, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome job! =D There is something going on with the tail shading, though. There are scraps of shading and highlights here and there. Could you make it more smooth? -- 01:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks ok i'll get right on it Maplepool 01:58, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Once again, please rename it Birchfall.kit.alt 02:02, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I mean no disrespect,Oblivion,but,I can't see,I have uploaded this so many times,it goes to a past photo,so,I add the number of tries till it gets approved,so if I seem disrepectful,its just because,I can't do it...my aplogies... Maplepool 02:12, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  comments? Maplepool 02:12, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink, thicken the shading, add shading under the chin. Rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png -- 06:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I cant it revets it to a past photo....Maplepool 14:01, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? It should just overwrite over the existing one-- 04:29, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

While it wont!Im sorry it says 'this photo already exists etiher fix the name or go with one we have' ok? im sorry it just wont hacking work!god..sorry if im being rude,but this thingy going on with the names its,ANNOYING ME!....Maplepool 04:33, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's okay to overwrite the existing image. If it isn't named Birchfall.kit.alt.png it won't show up on his article-- 04:38, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that? i added the shading under the chin,I just use a weaker brush....Maplepool 03:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * faceplam* missed the name hold on...fixed there we goMaplepool 03:20, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur it. Desaturate the ear pink-- 03:23, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Erm stupid question again what does Desaturate mean? im like 14 and i dont remeber.....Maplepool 02:44, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturating is used with the sponge tool. It'll give you the option of either saturate or desaturate. Also, the shadin along the edges needs to be blurred more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  03:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows tht? gosh i had to keep restarting god GIMP HATES ME NOW T-T Maplepool 05:55, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading a lot more, darken the shading under the chin, make the ear pink more reddish, rename it Birchfall.kit.alt-- 06:19, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. 01:10, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darkstripe (Alt. W) - For Approval


Much too dark. Lighten the entire image, and then blur/smudge to smooth the highlights together with the entire pelt, so it blends together and takes the appearance of a natural pelt. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Done. 20:32, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval? (It was seconded by Bramble, and she asked me, so...yeah ;D) 02:44, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights still look like they need blurring to me. 06:01, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

They can't blur anymore, I tried. 17:34, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Move the bottom part of the highlight on his shoulder up a bit and bring the bottom part of the highlight on his flank a bit higher. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:13, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that the image needs the highlights to be moved. However, they do need to be less dark. I would smudge the pelt color into the highlights, blur it, and then redo the highlights. 16:21, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, this is awesome, Icy! ;) Could you make the ear pink a little bigger? It seems a tad small right now. -- 20:10, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Looks too bright. Maybe try using the burn tool or redo the highlights. ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  22:11, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I re-did highlights and shading, then made the ear pink a different colour. 23:04, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights and blur haunch highlight. Make ear pink triangular -- 01:04, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Happy first day of December everyone ;D 01:39, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger-- 02:16, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: 00:41, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the ear pink -- 01:53, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's fine. 02:19, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I can hardly see the ear pink. Either brighten it or just add a new on on top -- 07:01, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: 00:24, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Make the eye a bit less orange, I'm pretty sure cats don't have eyes like that. 00:32, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Form the ear-pink into a more triangular shape, it's kinda like a blob right now. 00:44, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Minnowtail (Alt.Ki)


Add some shading and blur thoroughly, so the pelt is smooth. Darken and soften the ear pink, so it does not stand out so much. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. 'I sorta re-did it. I think I need more blurring, though. Blossomfire ₰Misty's best friend!₰ 19:02, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see the lineart at all; the pelt color is too dark. Try using a lighter very dark gray color. -- 20:17, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading and lighten pelt color, also maybe make the ear-pink a little bigger.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 22:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made it lighter and earpink is enlarged. But I still think the highlights should be blurred. Blossomfire ₰Misty's best friend!₰ 23:07, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's better, just maybe add some more lighter highlights on the chest and face.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 23:23, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's still too dark. If you can't make it any darker, that's okay. :) Also, there is a stray pixel on the far right paw that you should fill in. -- 23:26, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Grr... black cats are not my strong point. Let me guess. I have to make it lighter. Mistfire Owl City! 17:03, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, make it lighter a tad. :3 Then try to make the ears even (the shape). 17:06, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Lightened it. Mistfire Owl City! 17:18, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken the shading. You may want to add a few highlights to make it look less flat.-- 07:13, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Added more highlights and blurred earpink, but I couldn't shade anymore because it was too hard to blur. Mistfire Owl City! 16:08, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink the same size and maybe add some more lighter highlights.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 16:12, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Mistfire Owl City! 16:18, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is a hot-pink; tone it down, it's also kinda blotchy. Make the nose a dark gray. 23:23, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed earpink and nose and blurred shading a little more. Mistfire Owl City! 18:40, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Setting 24 horus before approval. 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Good job, Mistfire! =) Although I still think the ear pink could be fixed. The right ear pink is smaller than the left, and it looks sorta crooked. -- 20:12, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Minnowtail.kit.alt 01:56, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed earpink. (chants under breath "please approve, please approve, please approve") Mistfire Owl City! 17:12, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail and make the ear-pink even. 01:56, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed earpink and added shading to the tail. Mistfire Owl City! 02:56, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, brighten the highlights-- 04:28, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Brightened highlights and blurred earpink. Mistfire Owl City! 18:55, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink more-- 21:01, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The chest highlight should be blurred. Darkhallows... Mew? 12:48, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred earpink and blurred chest highlight. Mistfire Owl City! 20:17, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

There is some colour outside of the line art on the right side- 00:55, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed lineart. Mistfire Owl City! 02:04, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval?-- 02:08, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Alt. Kit)-For Approval


There is blurred lineart around the yees, which needs to be fixed. The shading on the kit's left side is too thick; lighten some of it in the center and blur the rest, to make the pelt look smoother. The kit also looks cross-eyed; make the pupils in the same position in both eyes. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. '''I completely redid the image because my previous one was so terrible XD. I've fixed the eyes, shading, and pupil location. Thanks, Bramble! ^_^ -- 20:17, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading into oblivion xD 22:07, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Nice pun, Oblivion! ^_^ Better? -- 20:16, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Good job. Just darken the shading around the arms, back leg, tail, and head. 20:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh wow, this looks so nice! All I can say is make her a more gingery colour, she looks golden right now. 05:59, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Icy, Mosspool! :) How does she look now? -- 17:54, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink less of a hot pink, and make it a tad smaller. 01:38, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe lighten her a bit, she's a tad dark. 04:01, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks for the tips, guys! ^-^ I've lightened it, fixed the ear pink, and corrected a mistake in the eyes that I didn't see before. What do you think? -- 18:03, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Darken the shading-- 07:19, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Done. -- 00:03, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading or desaturate her body, her fur looks brownish by her back legs. 20:19, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I've very slightly dodged her body, but if it needs more work, tell me. :) -- 20:30, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading under the chin.-- 00:26, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. If there's anything else that needs fixing, please tell me! :) -- 15:31, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the top of her forelegs. 00:30, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. '''Done. =) -- 23:13, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

In my personal opinion, against what everyone else seems to be saying... she's TOO ginger. It said pale ginger--a sandy color like Sandstorm, who was also described as pale ginger--not just ginger. She looks as bright as Firestar right now. Maple  frost!   23:34, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I understand what you mean. :) If you look at the image's page, you can see that at first, this image was somewhere between yellow and golden. I can change it if you like, but I'd like to here some other users' opinions first and see what they think of it. -- 21:41, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

I personally think she should look more like Goldenflower, her mother, than Sandstorm. This colour's fine to me. 21:55, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, anything else? -- 20:06, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the left side of the chest (our left), and make the earpink smaller, because it looks like it's falling out of her ears. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 22:13, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) - For Approval


Either lighten the shading on the back or get rid of the highlight next to it by darkening it. Then blur thoroughly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sunspirit, are you still working on this?-- 07:22, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Define the highlight on the flank. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 21:09, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the ear pink 00:06, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are a bit too bright. Maybe shade them a bit.<font color="Black"><font color="Black"> <font color="Orange">Wolfwhisker  <font color="Black">Trick <font color="Orange"> or <font color="Black"> Treat   01:02, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble, are you still working on this?-- 02:33, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sweetpaw (Alt. Kit) - For Approval


Return the lineart to its original color on the face; it has been paled. We'll see how it looks after that. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 04:48, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Fantastic. All I see is that the mottled spots could be darkened a tad. And the ear pink could also be darkened. 22:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:40, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

It sorta looks like the ear pink in the right ear is darker than the ear pink in the left ear. Can you fix that? If not, looks great! -- 02:48, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the right ear is darker because of the shading. 05:37, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, okay. =) Never mind. Looks good. -- 20:19, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be darkened a little, mostly on the bottom. Otherwise, it looks great! 22:16, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 04:05, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading under the chin, lighten the right ear pink-- 07:02, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Very good! Lighten the right ear's ear pink. Other than that, it looks awesome! Maple  frost!   02:03, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:58, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the right ear pink more-- 04:48, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 05:00, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten it more, I can hardly see it-- 05:25, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:47, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the forearms and tail, lighten the right ear pink more -- 02:32, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:30, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the right ear pink more so we can clearly see it. Maybe add highlights so it has more depth-- 00:54, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Cora (W) - For Approval


Lighten the entire image and blur thoroughly to get rid of the pixel-y texture. Everything else looks fine. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I can do that. Be back soon! 00:03, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 02:31, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Mapleshade (W) - For Approval
Yeah, laugh it up, it's terrible. Bring on the comments! Let me guess, the orange is too bright? You know what, there really is an advantage to staying up late! XD 05:46, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches together more. This looks great!-- 06:15, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

As Nightshine said, blur the patches; right now they look too separated. This is fantastic! -- 20:19, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

The gray/black splotches look...kinda un-natural somehow. Maybe change the pattern, instead of keeping it as the dip and hill thing. XD Nice name I gave it, eh? 20:23, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

http://calicocat.info/calico-cat/calico-cat-1.jpg I sorta referenced off this cat. I want it to look like this. . . I love her pattern. I don't know. . . . xD I guess I can try and change it a bit, yeah. 21:53, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, Dovesong. All I see that the shading ion the black transistion should be darkened, and all the patches should be evenly blurred together. Other than that, it's marvelous. 22:02, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and, like everyone else said, the transitions. Good job :) 22:04, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm re-doing a lot of it XD I found a copy with better shading, I guess I re-did and forgot about it, and also I think Frostheart is right about the patches so I'm changing them completely XD 22:08, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

VERY good but blur the patches like said they seem very um ah unreal to meal blur them that should fix it other than that its awesome Maplepool 23:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe try smudging the patches a tiny bit? It looks sorta cartoony. :3 16:34, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I was going to, but then I forgot about it XD I'm gonna try changing the shade of ginger. . . it looks really bright to me. 21:44, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Umm, I tried again. . . better or worse? Not too sure about this. ..

Wow, this is wonderful! The only thing I can see is between that space between the forearm and haunch that's usually transparent is gray. Make that transparent again, please. Good job! Holly dapple  01:17, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Looks wonderful! There's a smudge of gray on the tip of her tail that could be blurred a bit more. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 04:00, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I hate to bring this up because the charart is really good, but i just finished Night Whispers, and she was never accutally called a tortie, just white and orange. only the authors called her a tortie. This would kinda be like that alternate. 05:42, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

OH! Really? Well, I want this to be her official image and I am not to fond of this anyways, so I will change it and make her only white and orange. Thanks, Iceheart! XD 01:57, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out that we do create descriptions by what the authors say, so this image is completely fine. And no, that does not mean she needs an alternate orange and white image. 02:10, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

While we do create descriptions based on what the author says if she appeared in the book as orange and white than her main description should match. 02:30, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Dude shes tortie we go with what the authors say not the book if the book SAID it then is more than likely a mistake the the erins didnt catch nor the proof reader IF we must do a orange and white pic i may be her Alt image but,in the ernin hunter chat it was said the shes a 'big tortie she cat with amber eyes and is cold and decated to revenge' not ginger and white

lol sorry bout' the rant...^^; Maplepool 03:20, November 28, 2010 (UTC) sadly,I was here

Ummm. . . . no. We go with what the books said, not what the authors said before they published the book. They may have changed their mind, or described her as ginger and white in the books before the chat, then forgot and addidentally said she was a tortie. They always make mistakes like that. Yeah, if the books say she's ginger and white, she's ginger and white. 03:48, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

umm...no look at what Obloivion said....well mabye should we ask Bramble cuz none of us agree?(not a threat just asking cuz like none of us know...) Maplepool 03:54, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS NEVER HERE!

I looked at what Oblivion said. . . . I didn't like mine anyways, so why not just do the other one? Oblivion, the authors once said Cinderpelt was pale gray but we never gave her an alternate image for that. When was it ever decided that we do do images for what the authors say in chats? And if she was only ever described as orange and white in the books, never tortoiseshell, then her image is orange and white, not tortoiseshell. 07:20, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's fine leaving it orange and white. Darken the ear pink. darken the shading on the orange parts, darken the tail shading.-- 07:27, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

It should be orange and white, because, as Mosspool said, the authors always make mistakes - maybe they changed their mind. She was mentioned as an orange and white cat all throughout the book, not just once, as a mistake. 07:30, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well,I asked Bramble,so hopefully we'll get this squared away...cuase im like very confused but,if she says it stays,lighten the earpink then blur it other than that its great^^ Maplepool 15:50, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I was never here YOU CANT PROVE ANYTHING!

I think you are all focusing too much on a calico cat, not a tortoiseshell. There are differences between the two; calico has distinct patches, while a tortoiseshell can be blurred together. Like this fellow here there may not be solid black in the pelt. If it is found later on (cough-Crookedstar's Promise-cough) that she does have black on her pelt, we can add it in easily. It's not like the images are set in stone. Keep it orange and white now (which still does count as tortoiseshell, theoretically) and we can decide what to do later if she is described as a tortoiseshell in the book. Dovesong, keep going on this version. 20:29, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the neck. 20:51, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ok,thanks Bramble^^ and,as i said before,lighten the ear pink then blur it 71.164.203.114 14:39, November 29, 2010 (UTC) IM BACK FROM KANSAS!!!

Phenomenal, Mosspool! ^_^ Blur the shading on the chest fur. -- 20:15, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, leaving the Wiki due to real life obligations. I guess someone else could take this over now. Sorry guys. 05:09, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Unless I have to get Sagepaw approved first, I can take over. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 21:56, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Dovesong, but you do need to get Sagepaw approved. Anyone else who isn't working on anything can take over this, though. 22:17, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oblivion this is a different Dovesong. She can keep this can't she? 22:36, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind. I can take over. 22:43, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:14, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the neck/chest shading some more. 00:29, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

It's not going to look any different. 20:31, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ginger and white patches together a lot. 20:39, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy (Alt. Queen) - For Approval
So many things wrong with this charart...This is my first one for the project! 07:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the patch on the forehead a bit thinner, and darken the shading. Great image! 07:43, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable. 15:12, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. It's barely visible. -- 20:50, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

~Reuploaded~ 23:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ear-pink can still be slightly darker, other then that it's really good.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#0000CC">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 01:54, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the ear-pink is still un-noticeable. Shouldn't you color in the nose? 04:27, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

~Reuploaded~ 05:45, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the patch on her paws a bit more. 20:36, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the stomach a bit more. 04:27, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patch on her lower haunch by her tail a bit more. Looks lovely so far! <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 17:39, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Can you darken the ear pink a tad? It looks a little light to me. :) -- 20:16, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ear-pink color is fine. 00:19, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind then...XD. Darken the tail shading maybe? This is amazing! -- 01:45, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Daisy.queen.alt 02:04, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

~Reuploaded~ 03:42, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit more. Rename this Daisy.queen.alt.png. There is a white pixel on the forearm. Darken the shading some more-- 07:04, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

The small piece of line-art near the shoulder (not the shoulder, near) is faintly gray. 01:54, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

There's a white pixel near her front left leg. Fill that in black. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!

Smudge the white near the head part more. 23:55, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

~Reuploaded~

Define the ear pink, rename this Daisy.queen.alt.png -- 05:20, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

There's two alternate Daisy's. I don't want mine to get mixed up with the other.

Well, there are, but they're both for the same ThunderClan Daisy. :) That's a good point. See what some other users think about it, maybe. In the meantime, I think the stomach highlights could be blurred a tad more. -- 21:44, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

~Reuploaded~

Darken the shading on the white patches- 02:29, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Palefoot (W) - For Approval
Comments? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  14:05, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Add a few smaller stripes to his shoulder and haunch, lighten the ear pink and make it a bit bigger.-- 17:54, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Could you darken the shading on the back? Looks superb! -- 20:21, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink could be slightly bigger, other then that it's really good :)<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 22:26, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on the tail. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:58, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is me, but there seems to be a very thin line of shading and then a 'fat' brush of shading again. This is located on the chest area, could you blur or fix that? Add some shading to the back legs. 04:53, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Comments? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  16:42, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

It's beautiful, Rainbreath. ^-^ Can you blur the shading on the back and also blur the ear pink? -- 20:19, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink as well-- 06:23, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the chest shading 03:36, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  13:34, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't shows the right picture on my pc. =( The right picture is the one with the lightest ear pink. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  13:41, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back shading.

Oh that was me ^ ^. I forgot to sign. 03:57, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blured the shading. Is it better? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  15:34, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back shading more. 21:27, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Daisytail (Q) - For Approval
Wow...I can't believe it! My first charart here in a LONG time. I'm not so good with patched cats...oh well. Comments?  HA WK FI RE98  15:07, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I moved this to the correct section; next time, please put this in the charart section. There is some blurred line-art on the tail, legs, and the ear. The highlights look a tad bit blotchy too. 15:23, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the shading on the muzzle, it looks good so far. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 20:00, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches a lot. 22:48, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add some highlights to her muzzle, shoulder, and haunch with the dodge tool and turn her nose pink. Looks nice so far. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:56, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and move up and shape her ear pink a bit, it's sort of low down and lopsided right now. There is also some blurred lineart on the haunch, tail, and some more just above the base of her tail, and then some more on her farther front leg. Oh, and a little bit on her back near her shoulder. I hope you can find all that XD (It's all just tiny smudges) 05:55, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the patches look more orange. Besides that, it looks great! ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  17:06, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the muzzle and fix all the blurred line-art. 18:43, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I fixed all blurred lineart, made patches orange, darkened shading and brightened highlights, and fixed ear pink. Whew! XD (BTW, the lineart on the ear is not blurred. It's just the ear pink.)  HA WK FI RE98  20:23, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

The muzzle still looks a little dark and maybe make the patches more orange and less red. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 20:28, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the brown lighter and make sure the ear pink doesn't touch the line art. -- 05:58, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Run the blur tool over the shading a bit to smooth it out. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:09, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Change the eye so she doesn't look cross-eyed. Try to look at another queen image to see an example. 02:00, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

umm are you still working on this? if so shes crossed eyed!! Maplepool 01:51, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Patience, Maplepool. The two most powerful warriors are patience and time, as Leo Tolstoy quotes. :) It appears to me that there is a faint scar on her shoulder. Is it supposed to be there? If not, I suggest you remove it. -- 01:44, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Guys, Hawkey can't work on this. She said she quit wiki forever - as seen on Cats of the Clans wiki, I'll link if needed. She won't work on this, as said. 20:58, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, then anyone who isn't working on anything can pick this up, since it was withdrawn. 20:59, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'll work on it. 03:29, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I changed the eye, fixed the earpink, and blurred like crazy. 01:07, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

There still appears to be a faint scar on her shoulder. Do you see it? If so, try to get rid of it. 01:11, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried my best... 01:25, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, looks good. Blur the haunch highlight. 02:24, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 04:09, December 11, 2010 (UTC)'''

The patch on her belly looks kind of odd at the right edge because it is all brown-- 00:53, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blackstar (Alt. L)- for approval
Comments? 23:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Good job. =) Blur the shading all around. -- 23:24, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Make the background transparent as well. 23:57, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink.-- 00:27, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink and shading a ton, and maybe make the highlights brighter. 00:41, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blue the ear pink. 05:52, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make his nose the same color as the ear pink. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:08, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

No, don't make it pink, just make it a lighter black. Usually black cats have black noses. 18:46, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

We have a black cat (he's semi-ours) and his nose is more grayish. Mistfire Owl City! 18:52, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

For some reason it always just shows the old version. I'll try to reupload it again later and see if it's working. 05:03, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I hope you've thoroughly blurred it in the new version, because that is exactly what it requires; blurring both on the ear pink and the pelt. 09:01, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Blackstar.leader.alt 02:05, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded GIMP won't let me blur it anymore. 02:16, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it should be able to..make sure the blur rate is at 100. Rename it Blackstar.leader.alt. -- 02:18, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, make the ear pink bigger-- 04:26, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you can't blur it any more? Right now, the contrast between the shading and the highlights is very sharp, making it look...separate. -- 20:54, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Are you at least able to blur the earpink? 01:14, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sootfur (alt. W) - For Approval
First black (or gray-black) cat for me. Sootfur was mentioned as "gray black" in Sunset three times before his burial. I worked hard on him, so I hope he turned out pretty well! I may lighten him up a touch soon. Holly dapple  01:54, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading a little. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 02:00, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the face highlight, near the neck. 02:04, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Looks lovely! The highlight on the tip of the tail looks a bit out of place to me... Maybe bring it down a bit? <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:49, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm. A little blotchy to me. Needs quite a bit of blurring. 06:35, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Amazing job! Could the ear pink be a tad larger? -- 20:24, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I like the earpink as it is. Darken the highlight on his muzzle a bit. 08:06, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Sootfur.warrior.alt 02:05, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a tad. 04:49, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 02:27, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Mosspelt (Alt. Q) - For Approval
Comments? ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  18:20, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent work! =) Blur the shading on the back, blur the ear pink a bit more and extend it higher to the tip of the ear, and make her a bit more golden-brown; refer to Brackenfur, for example, if you need help. She looks somewhere between cream and orange right now. -- 20:04, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  21:19, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 21:26, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think it looks any better :/. ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  21:38, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back a lot and make the highlights a little brighter, mostly on the face. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 21:43, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink so it isn't such a bright colour. 21:54, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  22:14, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. 00:18, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit and blur it. -- 00:20, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I had to redo the shading and highlights ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  00:45, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, and maybe make it a little less fushia. 03:27, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the back and belly look like stripes. Lighten and blur well. 09:20, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded There! It looks WAY better! ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  18:19, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back and on the tail. :) Also, blur the shading on the front paw. - 20:36, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :D B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  22:34, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, and change the eye colour; it's a little too aqua to be normal. 05:21, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot and darken the ear pink. -- 07:05, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:34, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish. I don't see a light source in this; thicken the shading.-- 04:25, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better now? B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:14, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think you are trying to make the light source come from the left. Darken the shading in the areas I marked with red. Make the ear pink look similar to that colour.-- 21:09, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Night shine, can you give me the hex code for the earpink colour? I'm having a hard time trying to find something similar. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:09, December 6, 2010 (UTC)<-- Never mind that. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:21, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :)? B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:20, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more around the neck and belly. Blur thee ear pink a bit more-- 00:18, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur everything overall, it might be just me, but everything looks quote blotchy. 02:21, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, it was just my brain tricking me. :3 15:30, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  18:42, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks quite blotchy to me. Perhaps darkening it could fix it. 22:45, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading and highlights. It was blotchy because I edited it a lot :/ B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  23:34, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot. Center the ear pink. -- 02:27, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I carefully smudged the different blues in the eyes together for effect. This is NEVER gonna be approved .-. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  03:18, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose color a darker shade of gold. And Blizzardfur, be patient, some chararts take way longer--two months to be approved. 05:07, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot in the areas I designated in the redline above -- 05:16, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded This has better work... B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  16:15, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, mostly on the shoulder. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:36, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

It stills needs to be blurred a lot more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  23:48, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I would darken the shading first. Then blur it, like Rainwhisper said. 00:51, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Wetfoot (A) - For Approval
Okay, here he is. He's kinda bad right now, so comment fiercely! I shall improve him! 03:22, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten and define his stripes, so they look more like the warrior image's. 03:26, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit. I really like the stripes =) Lighten the shading, it's a little dark looking, but also thicken the shading-- 03:29, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

There is some blurred line-art on the chest. 03:31, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the eaar-pink BUT lighten it,and as Ice heart said ligthen the stripes then define them and fix the blurred on the chest other than that nice ^^ IMPROVE HIM FRECRELY THEN!!!!! Maplepool 03:53, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink doesn't need lightening. 05:08, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

At least blur the stripes; to me they look wispy, not like tabby stripes. I actually think the ear pink should be darkened a bit, only a bit mind you. And the shading looks like of ... pressed and flat for the want of better words. It doesn't give me a 3-D effect. Sorry if that's too unhelpful! 13:54, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Minor tweaks have been made. I didn't have time for everything. Will work on it later, but it's midnight here. Comments? 08:03, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded (again) Better? 01:49, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

The line art looks kind of blurred along the forearms. Thicken the shading-- 02:06, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Howzat? 23:16, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights, thicken and darken the shading, and define the stripes on the chest. 01:51, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? 05:55, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Something about the tabby stripes looks a bit..odd..They look sort of smashed and around them, it's kind of blotchy. Maybe blur everything a lot, then define the stripes, especially on the belly and legs. :3 15:29, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Lol what do you mean, smashed? I think they look fine. 03:47, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, on the back and haunch it's fine. But the face stripes, the belly stripes, and the leg stripes..look. 'smashed'. XD Too blurred and smooshed together. 15:05, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Pikepaw (A) - For Approval
For the page, Pikepaw. Crystalstar999

I've moved this image to the right place. Please sign with four tildes when you're on a talk page. Do rename this image as Pikepaw.apprentice.png. Remember to place the image as full sized, which I've done too. As for the image itself, the shading on the haunch and that on the belly is a little intense. Just lighten that and then darken the image overall, because it looks like a pale gray tom, not a dark gray one. Otherwise, great job! =) 13:50, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darkhallows has already reserved this image. It will be declined. I think Bramble will issue a 24 hour ban -- 23:52, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Um sorry if I'm contradicting you, but I really think this shouldn't be declined. Darkhallows' version of Pikepaw was already declined. Doesn't that make it allowable for someone else to create his charart? Please correct me if I'm wrong. 10:56, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'm just an apprentice. XD But even though Darkhallows's was declined, this Pikepaw is being declined because Darkhallows still has it reserved on the PCA chart. Basically, whether the image was declined before or not, if it's on the chart, you're never supposed to put it up for approval if you're not the user that reserved it first. At least, that's what I remember :) -- 20:32, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Shady's image was declined due to lack of work shortly before the Project closed. I didn't know about it, so I reset her current project like I did the others to the 23rd. But, as she's stated she'll be inactive indefinitely now, and the image was declined and should have been removed from the current projects table, the image is fair game. This can stay up. Thanks for saying something, Starling. If Crystal no longer wants to work on it, someone else can once the week is out. The only thing I see right now is that the eye needs color. -- 04:39, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Rename this Pikepaw.apprentice 17:21, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I personally think the shoulder highlight should move down a bit, just enough so it touches the top of the forearm. This is fantastic otherwise, though =) -- 20:48, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the highlight looks fine where it is. If others disagree with me, then change it. 22:47, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I also just noticed Bramble's comment. I'd be willing to take it over once this week is over. 22:50, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * There's blurred lineart on the shoulder - fix that. And darken the shoulder shading. 23:35, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is she still working on this? <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 16:48, December 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * No. I've taken over. 21:44, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Comments? 00:46, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Make the ear pink bigger and blur it. Darken the arm shading some-- 00:52, December 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the compliment. Which arm, exactly, should I fix? 00:56, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Both of them-- 01:00, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Does this look better? 01:08, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ivypaw (Alt.A) - For Approval
Not a very good one. o.o Oh well, comments? XD 01:44, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, mostly on the haunch =) 02:00, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the highlights. There is some blurred line art on the forearms -- 02:07, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it is showing the changes.. 02:12, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Ivypaw (TC).apprentice.alt and then we can talk changes. 00:51, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Done. 01:42, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. 01:44, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. -- 07:06, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

If I darken the shading, it makes it nearly impossible to blur more. 20:58, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I say it still needs to be blurred, and maybe brighten the highlights. 21:00, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:11, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more-- 04:24, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Like I said, I cannot darken the shading anymore. 04:30, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Are you using GIMP? You should still be able to darken it-- 04:33, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I use Gimp. I am able to darken it, but I won't. If I darken it, it'll be really hard to blur, it'll make it look worse. 06:31, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

but it looks flat now. a bit darker shouldn't be too hard to blur. 18:58, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Done. 19:04, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the bit of shading at the belly under the forearm. Either brighten the highlights or darken the shading -- 21:13, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Done. 00:00, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on her tail. 00:01, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Done. 00:10, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the haunch shading. 00:13, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:29, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the belly and under the jaw. Looks very nice! :) <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 02:50, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:12, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the underbelly and the chest. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:18, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. They are blurred to the max, even using Gimp, regardless, I tried anyway. 21:08, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me; CBA? 21:17, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights or darken the shading-- 02:25, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's fine right now. 02:43, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it's fine. Resuming 24 hours. 03:00, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but it looks flat to me, can you try and see what it looks like?-- 03:03, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I did, it looks much too weird. It's fine the way it is now, it doesn't look flat. 03:05, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Could you at least brighten the highlights?-- 21:11, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine, it's fine. It doesn't need anything else. I'm not going to restart the 24 hours, it will be resuming. 21:14, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should wait and see other users' opinions about this-- 21:23, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so, CBA has been on at least three times and no one else commented. So this will stay as it is. 21:29, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

We should postpone it for longer so people can comment -- 21:38, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine, I think it looks fine, and Frostheart said she can't brighten them any more or it'll look better, but I'll restart the 24 hrs to give other people a chance to comment. 23:37, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Gorsepaw (Alt.A) - For Approval
Comments?<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 03:30, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is too big. 03:32, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and blur it. Darken the shading and add shading on the tail. 13:08, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 21:33, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticeable, and center it. 23:29, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 23:48, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the haunch and blur the rest of the shading. 04:25, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  22:45, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the ear pink a bit more-- 07:07, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  14:47, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights if there are any or darken the shading more-- 04:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  14:37, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a teeny-tiny bit smaller. :) B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:36, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:40, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink more. 20:42, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:02, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Wow Rainwhisper, this looks great! :) Could you darken the ear pink a tad? -- 21:07, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded... again. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:35, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is kinda hard to see, make it pinker. 04:02, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:22, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit more and blur it-- 00:12, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  00:48, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Make sure the ear-pink isn't touching line-art. 02:19, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Fixed it. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  02:32, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Move the earpink up and make it a bit bigger. 02:54, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great. Blur the shading on the haunch a bit. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  15:45, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:16, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch higlight. 02:22, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights or darken the shading-- 02:24, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

This is great. I think the hightlights should be brightened. 02:52, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  03:06, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred ilne-art on the ear. 16:20, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

'''I think I got it. ''' ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  16:35, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art looks a bit..'fat' near the ear. :P Fix the line-art. 21:05, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the front of the haunch- 21:11, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Meh:( the shading won't blurr anymore, or else it'll get darker and blotchy. As for the ear, I tried the best I could to make it un-fat. ❋   Rainwhisper   ❋  22:20, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight some more-- 00:51, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''It can't be blurred anymore. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  01:59, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Broken Shadow (Q) ~ For Approval
She is called a queen at the begining of dark river, what do ya think? 02:29, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Very nice ;) Enlarge the earpink. 02:44, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire thing a tad, it's a bit too dark compared to her warrior image. 03:33, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Does she actually need a queen charart? If her son, Fallen Leaves, was leaving to become a Sharpclaw, I don't think she would still be a queen. -- 07:08, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- The text dirctly calls her a queen, so i think that should count. 08:02, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

She was also mentioned as a tabby. Give her some stripes. 21:02, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Tabbied up. 22:59, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this just the regular queen, not the alternate? Blegh, I'm sick, might be horribly wrong. :P If this is correct, make the ear-pink more pink. 23:11, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I would think it would be the altenate because she was mistakenly called with stripes, correct? 01:15, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

But she never had a queen in the first place. This could be an alternate, but there'd be no original, and I think it's fine to just leave it. 01:22, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I agree with Oblivion, this is gonna be the original. I tried to fix the ear pink, but i cannot get it to look normal X( 02:22, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Are you all sure that she was actually a queen? Her only son was about to become a sharpclaw, so I don't think she would still be a queen. Does anyone else agree? -- 04:22, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that's true. She wouldn't be a queen by that time, and the blanks (I quote from Helix :3) are used to show their ranks, and she was never seen as a queen. 17:16, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The book specifically calls her a queen, and she says Fallen Leaves is her eldest, implying she has more kits. 17:17, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The exact line is "You're my eldest, Fallen Leaves," the queen whispered.... (Dark River, pg. 1)and it calls her a queen before that too. That's pretty concrete info to me. 18:55, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Make the roots of the stripes less red. Blur the highlights, and try to fix the ear-pink again. :3 19:06, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I dulled the stripes a bit, but i can't do much more without ruining the shading. 19:42, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, that'll probably help. 20:07, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. This is awesome! -- 20:45, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 21:13, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Some of the stripes look pink. 04:01, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 02:32, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back legs. 15:28, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded~ -- 23:42, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the stripes. 21:14, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 02:13, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading around the neck and darken the ear pink a bit-- 02:23, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderheart (Alt. KI) - For approval


My first charart! I spent a ton of time on it ^^". Cinderheart's alternate kit form -- she was described in Sunset as 'looking exactly like Cinderpelt (dark fluffy gray)' instead of gray tabby. Comments?  Maple   frost!   19:40, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 20:57, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the nose; gray cats usually don't have pink noses, and rename it Cinderheart.kit.alt 21:03, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add some highlights to the tail. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:11, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Move the highlight to the chest and add highlights to the fronts of the legs. Mistfire Owl City! 21:39, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. What now? :)  Maple   frost!   00:05, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights a little more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  00:06, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

* coughs* Rename it Cinderheart.kit.alt, please. 01:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

* Facepaw* Sorry... I was being an idiot xD. I named it Cinderheart.alt.kit... ugh... Sorry, I'll rename it when I re-upload it (in a few minutes when I finish editing)  Maple   frost!   01:53, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! (/Is very glad she re-read her post before clicking save page. That would've been an embarrassing typo.)  Maple   frost!   02:00, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

There is an extra period after alt. You just need to name it Cinderheart.kit.alt, it will add the .png to the end on its own. Sorry for the lack of image-related comments, I will once you name it correctly ^_^ 03:33, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Uggghhh xD sorry... you have permission to cyber-punch me. I know, I'm exasperating. It's part of my internet charm ^_^ (NOT). Okay... it's named right, now. I think... xD. Maple  frost!   05:20, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Change the nose color to a darker gray. 17:15, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading thoroughly. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:39, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Maple  frost!   19:32, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look... mismatched and blotchy. Can you try and fix that? ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:43, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks crooked. -- 20:44, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple  frost!   23:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading thoroughly. 23:26, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Are they too strong or something? I keep getting told to do that... they're as blurred as they possibly can be, so are they just too strong? Maple  frost!   23:34, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The nose is still a bit pink. And no, they're not too strong. You need to blur them, they're too blotchy. 04:01, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Should I make the nose completely black/very very dark gray? Or just darken the current pinkish-gray nose? Maple  frost!   05:05, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose colour a dark gray -- 00:12, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I fixed the nose and splotchiness. It doesn't look splotchy anymore ^^", thank goodness. I'm sick of the Blur tool. xD  Maple   frost!   17:53, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks really blotchy to me. 21:24, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Me, too. There are scraps of shading and highlights everywhere, and looks a bit disorganized. Also, blur the tail shading a tad. -- 21:26, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is that better? Maple  frost!   21:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Now it looks how it did before XD Blur it mostly on the chest area, but on the legs and the tail too. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  22:07, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Would you want some help with the blotchiness? 04:41, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

-Sigh-... Whenever there's blotchiness, there's something I like to do called... REDOING THE SHADING AND HIGHLIGHTS. I just fill 'em in again and redo the shading and highlights and hope it works. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  04:03, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

If they redo the shading and highlights, it may make it more blotchy, with the Pixlr blurring. 05:05, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Brightheart Alt. Apprentice~For Approval
Not thrilled about this one. I think I'm gonna make her scars bigger. Comments for improvement? <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 20:15, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The entire side of her face was torn out; you're right about making those scars bigger. 20:21, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Rename the image Brightheart.apprentice.alt. 20:25, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more shading to the tail. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:32, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

There's quite a bit of spots where the lineart is blurred, particularly her whiskers and the middle of her forearms. Also, I took a quick look at her other chararts, and the tail isn't completely orange; there's a bit of white at one end. -- 20:42, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Make sure the ginger patches are in the same spot as they are on her other apprentice image. -- 21:17, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I also blurred the highlight on her shoulder. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 21:21, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

There's still a ton of blurred lineart, on her tail, arms, face... 21:31, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Did you see my above comment?-- 21:57, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Okay, I basically redid the whole charart. Nightshine, yes I got you comment, but it didn't show up until I had posted the edited charart. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:10, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

For the ear-pink, shrink it a tad. The ear is torn, yes, however, the ear-pink size shouldn't enlarge. And the patches should still be in the same spot as the others. 04:00, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Moved the patches around a bit and made the ear-pink smaller. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 01:33, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be way smaller still; it shouldn't be touching the lineart at all. 01:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 02:14, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. The earpink can't be touching the lineart on the sides, not just the end. On yours, it seems to take up her whole ear. 19:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. That look better? <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 02:42, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Now it's not even there.... look at her apprentice image, and use that earpink, just with a ripped ear. 22:03, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patch on her tail and the front leg farthest away from us. Otherwise, very nice! <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 22:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Sorry it took so long, I had an english paper to write. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 01:52, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Um...sorry if I sound daft, but I can't see any scars.... Apart from that, I'd just blur the patches a tad. Clarrissa  My Talk Page  18:33, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

This may be my computer screen working up, but I can't see much shading, if any at all. If it isn't just me, use the blur tool to darken and/or add it. 20:50, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Add a ginger spot to the leg 23:12, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art on the back leg is blurred, I think the patches are blurred enough. 23:16, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't it say that it took, like, all her ear off? Make the ear smaller. <font color="Orange">Wolfwhisker <font color="Black">Trick <font color="Orange"> or <font color="Black"> Treat   23:26, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Darkened the shading and made the ear smaller. Icy, I didn't add a spot to her leg since there isn't one in her first apprentice charart and I'm not sure which leg you're referring to. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 00:33, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the patches, darken the ear pink, make sure there is no blurred line art, make the patches more like the ones on her apprentice image-- 02:22, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Desaturated the orange patches, darkened the ear pink, and made her scar a bit smaller. Should I add in some darker, claw marks on her face? <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 22:56, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you need to, there aren't any on her queen image. Blur the patches on the forearms and tail, darken the shading, -- 00:50, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sparrowkit- Declined
Got NW sooner than I thought. What d'ya think? Darkhallows... Mew? 13:40, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think this was once declined because we did not know the colour of the tabby tom. 15:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC) I agree with Frostheart. I did Sparrowkit originally but it was declined after lots of confusion about the colour. Now I'm doing Mosspelt's alt. queen version. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  15:53, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

They're right, sorry Darkhallows. Declining this. 15:54, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Why, then, was Henry given a Charart? 21:39, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

That's a good point, Henry's image will probably have to be deleted since he's only described as a 'tabby tom' -- 21:41, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

A lot of other cats were also called just tabbies too, like Kinkfur, Sparrowkit's mother. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:56, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

We already had this discussion. I believe it was settled that Bramble and Oblivion would discuss it, but until then, don't put up any tabby chararts like that. Or it was agreed that cats without colours don't get a charart, I honestly don't remember. XD 22:06, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Oh oops! I mus have missed that x_x. Haven't we done non-specified tabbies since... like the begining? Oh well. Darkhallows... Mew? 23:18, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Squirrelflight and Crookedstar
On page 159 of Bluestar's Prophecy Crookedpaw was described as a stocky gray tabby tom.

Even though she didn't have kits, Squirrelflight was a queen even though she slept in the warrior's den alot. Mintstarr 22:46, December 7, 2010 (UTC)Mintstarr (Talk)

Crookedstar has an alternate apprentice image, it just hasn't gotten on his page yet. I was going to do that image but when I tried to upload it, it said there already was an image for him. As for Squirrelflight, you'll have to see what someone else says. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  22:58, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Squirrelflight is not a queen. Have you read Sunrise yet? Anyway, Squirrelflight never had kits. It might've appeared like that, but she never kitted. She should not have a queen image. -- 20:39, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

The Squirrelflight as a queen arguement has happened before. It was decided that she wouldn't recieve a queen image. It should be somewhere in the archives if you want to look. 20:53, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Crookedstar already has his apprentice image. And about Squirrelflight as a queen, she was what I like to call a stand-in for Leafpool, so that doesn't make her a queen. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  04:00, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Break
I won't be on until about December 14th or 15th. Please excuse my absence. =) Thanks! -- 20:40, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

New Leadership
Hey everyone. I have decided that due to dwindling motivation from me and the fact I have done this for more than a year now, I will be retiring from the leadership position of this Project. Oblivion has agreed to accept the leadership from me, and so I will be changing the membership table a last time and then I will no longer be editing this Project. I wish you all well and hope I did a semi-good job while I was leader here. Adieu. -- 19:02, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

You were a wonderful leader, Bramble, even though I wasn't here the entire duration of your leadership. I wish you well. I know you've left the Project in good hands. :) 20:33, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sniff... we'll miss you, Bramble. Mistfire Owl City! 20:44, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Even though I haven't been on the site for a while, you were a great leader and I respected you a lot. :] ❋   Rainwhisper   ❋  20:50, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

You were an amazing leader, Bramble. We will all sincerely miss you, and congrats Oblivion. :) 20:53, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble! You were a sincerely fantabulous leader, and we will all miss you. :'( 21:49, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Bramble, congrats on your retirement and I hope you can live a less stressful life from now on. ;) I know Oblivion will be a great leader. 22:18, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Bye Bramble. I have only just joined this project but I have seen all your art and it excellent.

I wish Oblivion luck 22:57, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble :(. I'm sure Oblivion will do well ^^. Darkhallows... Mew? 23:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Everyone will miss Bramble... She was an amazing and devoted leader, and I know I'm sad to see her go. I've decided on the new deputy, and it will be Frostheart. Congratulate her, everyone :) 23:31, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Oblivion. :) I will do my best to serve PCA. 23:33, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations Frostheart! You're going to be a great deputy. :D ❋   Rainwhisper   ❋  23:44, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to join
Can I please join? I want to start making chararts of my own.Phoenixfeather13--StarClan&#39;s Agent 21:45, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I've moved this to the correct spot. I'll add you in right away, Phoenixfeather :) May I suggest looking at the basic guidelines and some tutorials? Thanks for your interest in joining. 23:42, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

May I join?
Hi, I'm new to this wiki...so I was wondering if I could join as an apprentice for Project Character Art. If you want, I'll give you a sample of my work....but if you don't need one...then thats fine too! 02:05, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

You don't need a sample to join. I'll add you in, Moonwillow. You should take a look at the basic guidelines before reserving an image and you can check out some tutorials here. Thanks for your interest in joining. -- 02:10, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Tumblekit?
I want to do Tumblekit, but Moon has it reserved on the table thingy, but it was reserved on the 23rd of November and there are no posts for it.....does that mean he's available for me to do? Because if he is....can I do him? 02:32, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes you can do his image-- 03:23, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble's Images
So now that Bramble has left, the images she took over are available to be taken, I'm pretty sure-- 03:23, December 12, 2010 (UTC)