Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Into the Woods - Silver Nomination
I cited the cats on the cover. That was really all that needed to be done. The detailed plot summery and cliffnotes are good as well. What do you all think? 16:02, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The cliffnotes look excellent. They're a bit long though. The article itself looks wonderful. I don't have this manga, so I can't say if anything needs to be extended. -- Cloud skye  17:37, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think anything needs expansion, it looks good to me. Supporting! :D 17:42, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

You know that you're allowed to CBV and put up your own votes, right? :P 22:10, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Since she's not going to do it, I'll ask. It's been a while, and no one said anything. So, CBV? -- Cloud skye  17:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't really like that system. It opens up a whole new oppertunity for vandalism; which, of course, is the last this we need right now. 20:27, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

In the infobox, publish date, author, cover artist, jacket designer needs citing. Also, we agreed a while ago that the Blurb and Praise sections will be a main section, and not a sub-section under Bookjacket (which should be removed). Also, a Publication List should be added since there are more editions (English and German). Other than that, the article is great. (Same for the other two books with the series, that can be nominated as well with minor fixes - e.g. references). 15:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've cited everything and seperated the sections. I'm just having trouble with the Publication List. I can't find dates for other volumes. 22:09, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Can you fix the wording for cite no. 2 on the main article? It's annoying the living heck out of me, and I can't fix it myself. All I see is a page link. It really shouldn't be like that, should it? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:29, May 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I fixed it, but I still need help with the Publication List. I can't find other dates. 17:24, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Voting
Okay, I have a serious question for you all. You all should know about the voting that's done around here, whether it be for FAs or Silver Nominations. What I want to know, is do you think Rainlegs and myself should be the ones to put up the votes, or should the user that nominated it put up the vote? I know it's kinda hard to find out how to do it (it took me about an hour to find the damn link), and it does seem like something a leader or deputy should do... But, I'd love to know what the rest of you think? So, comments?? -- Cloud skye  16:41, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think everyone should be able to put up their own votes. Thats how it was done recently, and thats how it should be done, since there are only two leads, and because it just makes sense for the user who nominated the article to put up the vote themselves. The user should wait for a few days, and be able to CBV their own nominations. 22:48, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you completely. I see nothing wrong with the users putting up their own votes. I just wanted to know what everyone else thought. However, with the CBV, I think that the leads should put that up themselves, but leave the putting up of the vote to the nominating member. I mean, once the lead thinks it's been enough time, then they should put up the CBV. -- Cloud skye  17:12, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thats a great idea! The leads should put up the CBVs and the nominator should put up the votes. Anyone else, comments? 20:25, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I see your arguement. However, I don't think it's a good idea. There are many things wrong with doing this, in my opinion:
 * Not everyone knows how to do so.
 * If the link to the vote creator is flashed all around, who knows what sort of vandals will take advantage of it.
 * I know the vote topic creator link is on the front page of PC, but no one really looks there.

Mistystar: You say there arn't enough leads for them to put up the vote; so, why don't we nominate some? 20:42, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I understand the thing with vandals, but we can't nominate senior warriors. (See User Nominations at the top.) 22:05, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Big deal. The project isn't big. That doesn't mean we can have one or two senior warriors. It's not that hard. Moonflight is right. We should nominate some. We don't need to be as big as PCA to have senior warriors. We'd just have to be careful who we nominate. I'm sure making another userbox could take a matter of seconds, if done by someone who knows what they're doing. I would love to see senior warriors around here - they could help out when Rainlegs and I aren't around to monitor the project. As I said before, we could have one or two; take the most active (or who have contributed to the project the most recently), and vote on them. Mistystar would be one of my choices, along with Rainwillow, perhaps. Number of nominations would be useless, though. Because some of the ones who have the most aren't contributing to the project very much. -- Cloud skye  17:28, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think Moonflight would make a great senior warrior. She is one of the few active members, and has leadership skills :D So is it decided? We'll have senior warriors, and nominators will not put up votes or CBV their own nominations? 03:26, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Only leaders should put up votes. This is one of their duties (and more or less their only duty, besides archiving), so there is no point in asking users to do it, especially as putting up a vote might not be trivial for most of the users. I do not know whether PB should have senior warriors - two leads had no problem of taking good care of the project even when activity was much higher (Spring-Summer 2010). 15:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think we should have some senior warriors here, since one or two really wouldn't hurt. We would need to be careful of who we nominate, though. I think leads should put up votes, mainly because we don't have many tasks other then that. 23:44, April 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * True, true, Rainy. I'd like to see Mistystar as a senior warrior. I'd be okay with being a senior warrior, but there are other options better than me. coughcoughMistystarcoughcough. Sorry. Allergies. 15:15, May 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Need something for that cough, Moonflight? (xD) But, anyways. Mistystar is an excellent suggestion - she's very active, cares about the project and is one of the few that come and edits frequently. If anyone does deserve it, she does. -- Cloud skye  12:48, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I do not want to appear rude, but if the project suffers because a leader is inactive (and can't care less about the project), he/she should be rather replaced with an active person, instead of appointing senior warriors to do the actual work. 14:13, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hey now. I hope that wasn't directed at me, Helix. I'm trying my best to do what I can for this project. I've been doing well, but it seems that I'm the only lead for this project. No offense to Rainlegs (she's an amazing member, and really nice), but, I've been doing a lot more work here then she has. Rainwillow has explained to me as to why she's not on as much, and I understand. But, while she's inactive, I think there should be someone else appointed to help me out. I'm graduating from high school this year, and I have a lot I need to get done beforehand. But there are some things we can't forsee, and inactiveness is one of those things. For all we know, if someone goes inactive, it may be because of something sudden - something they had no way of knowing about. I've voiced my opinion on this a few times (more so on msn), and I think that until Rainlegs becomes active again, she should step down from leadership. Not permantly, anyways. (Please don't shoot me for saying this, Rainlegs!) -- ◄ Shattered ƒlamε ► ♫  Sin   With   A   Grin   ♫ 15:48, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * It wasn't directed at you *hugs*. You are doing a great work, especially that you are the only active lead in the project, and I admire you for being able to balance wiki tasks with the demands of last year of high school. 18:30, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I don't often shoot people. :) I have very limited time on the computer right now, between school and other activities, but school will be out in another.... 17 days (Counting weekends), so I will have more time. I'm still trying to work on figuring out votes and archiving, (I am not a coding whiz) along with a few other tasks, so I won't be such a burden to this project. But I do agree that Cloudskye should have a helper or two to help her out until I am fully capable of doing so. Cloudskye, you are doing more then I ever expected you to do. Thanks for all your hard work, and being able to put up with me. :) 01:42, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome for putting up with you. But, here's how I see it. I can't keep picking up your slack forever, Rainlegs. If you don't understand how to put up votes, you can ask myself, Helix, Mistystar or any of the other project's leads. The voting system is the same throughout the wiki. I really don't know how much more of this the project can take before something happens.  Sk ye  Me ow 16:09, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Eclipse ~ Silver Nomination
Please keep in mind that the nominator is Mistystar, not myself. I combined all of the Eclipse nominations into one category, since that's how they're usually voted on. This is for the Main Article, Gallery and Cliffnotes. -- Cloud skye  17:09, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :D Comments? 22:01, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Can the trivia statement in the main article be cited? All I see is an empty source tag. I don't care if it's from the Warriors main site, or even Warriors Wish (which is accurate, btw). It just needs to be cited. Also, some of the cliffnotes are a little short. Extend those please. -- Cloud skye  17:30, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll work on that. Comments on the gallery? 03:31, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Publish date, author, cover artist, jacket designer, and praise items should be referenced. Blurb and Praise should not be a sub-section of Bookjacket, as agreed before. Publication list with English and foreign editions and publish dates thereof (including citations) should be added. 15:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Okay! Publish date, author, cover artist, jacket designer are cited! I'm still looking for the cite for the trivia statement. 23:08, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed Blurb/Praise sections, added praise reference. 00:18, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Added Publication list, but not completed...Can I just delete the trivia section? I searched it up on google but I couldn't find any references, and I also checked Warriors Wish and the main site, but there wasn;t anything about it. 00:40, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Expanded Cliffnotes. 00:51, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I've expanded cliffnotes, completed and added the publication history and citations, finished blurb and praise and citations, and cited Publish date, author, cover artist, and added and cited jacket designer. The only thing left is the trivia, which I checked all the Erin Hunter chats, Warriors Wish, and the main site, as well as google, but couldn't find a reference for. May I delete the trivia section? Everything else is complete. 21:14, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if it can't be cited, then I say remove it until otherwise stated. I mean, for all we know, someone could have put that up there as a joke. I'll check into it myself and see if I can find anything. Until then, remove it, I guess. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:21, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, anything else I need to add? 22:42, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

The reference list was bothering me, so I fixed it. Other then that, I see nothing wrong. Sorry for the delay, but, CBA? I ask this because no one else said anything about it, and I was just letting you know I fixed something. xD -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 17:19, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :D I hadn't noticed anything wrong with it before :P  20:58, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

If no one has any comments for 24 hours, I'll put up the vote. -- ◄ Shattered ƒlamε ► ♫  Sin   With   A   Grin   ♫ 17:00, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is up like I promised. Enjoy!  Sk ye  Me ow 18:27, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Fading Echoes ~ Silver Nomination
The history looks good, it seems to have all the right templates, but I might have missed one. There is no praise for it yet, so I just deleted the section. It looks great and it's long so comments? At el  da  22:39, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

You need references for the cats on the cover, and a reference for the publish date. 23:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

So I could not find a reference for the cats on the cover so instead I did "is thought to be", but if this is wrong then I could take the whole thing out, but I did do the publishing date. At el  da  03:59, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know...Add a Publication List, and the Blurb and Praise sections should not be subheadings of Book Jacket. 00:41, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

The Blurb is on the Book Jacket and I deleted the Praise section, and added a Publication List. Is that okay if i deleted the Praise section? And if the Blurb suppose under the Book Jacket, then I could change it. Comments? At el  da  02:59, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with removing the praise section - since there is none, it took up space. Can the first trivia statement be cited? As for the cliffnotes, can chapters 15, 17-20 and 22 be extended? If not, then that's okay. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:24, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ok the trivia cited, and I extended each section of the cliffnotes. At el  da  04:54, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Comments? At el  da  23:41, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! Can you add a citation for the cats on the cover on the main article? And the Publication list should include Hardcover, Paperback, Audiobook, as well as the other language versions. Fading Echoes has a chinese version too, so you might want to add that :D also, the publication list looks like this: http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse#Publication_History (I made it xP) 23:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Mistystar! :) At  el  da  03:31, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

How's this going? Did you fix what you were supposed to?  Sk ye  Me ow 18:28, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

June Feature Article
Yes, I know it's only the 10th of May, but with the way things are going, it's better to get this started earlier. So, does anyone have any ideas for next month's FA? I was thinking we could try something different, and possibly do an essay or a play. Since we've always done actual books, why not another part of the project? I was thinking either Tigerstar: Heart of Evil? or Spottedleaf's Honest Answer. If not, then I'm fine with a book. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:49, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thats a great idea! And its not too early, since all the other projects have started considering FAs too :D We could do any of the essays or plays, as long as they're silver. 22:37, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's a great idea. Either one of the options you listed look good to me. 00:45, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...so now we need to decide between Tigerstar: Heart of Evil? and Spottedleaf's Honest Answer. I think both are okay, but technically I shouldn't vote because I was the one who nominated one of them for silver :P 21:07, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lol Mistystar! I think both are okay to, but we could also look over their fourms and see which one had the most votes. The one with the most could be the FA. Just saying. XD 04:32, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Mistystar, we don't have to choose between the two I suggested. All of the plays have Silver status and the only essay that doesn't have Silver is the one you currently have up for nomination. I was just throwing out an idea. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 12:56, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Great idea, of featuring essays / plays. I'm OK with either of them. :) 14:56, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Either one looks great. I would be in favor of Tigerstar: Heart of Evil. Spottedleaf's Honest Answer is great too but perhaps next month. The Clans Decide, I think, looks great also. At el  da  01:56, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so, I think we should have a vote to decide on which one to do, since there's only around 2 weeks left and the FA votes take one week. 21:57, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I should have taken care of this the other day. Which one are we doing? We're behind enough as it is. -- ◄ Shattered ƒlamε ► ♫  Sin   With   A   Grin   ♫ 17:00, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we are. How about The Clans Decide? 00:21, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. If no one says anything wrong, I'll put up the vote in 12 hours (that'll be when I get on the computer next).  Sk ye  Me ow 00:24, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is now up, enjoy.  Sk ye  Me ow 16:01, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

AaU Revival?
I am attempting the revival of the Adopt a User project; however, my idea has quite a few flaws, and I hope to somehow resolve them with the help of this Wiki. Please comment on this forum. 09:19, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Senior Warrior Lead Votes
I started a discussion here. We still have unfinished things to take care of. Please comment. 17:37, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Voting x2
Okay, not trying to be rushy, but the Allegiances Sign of the Moon vote has been over for 3 days. xD 21:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Mistystar. I was ill over the weekend from being out in the rain. All I did was sleep. I'll take care of things now. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 12:13, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I hope you're okay :) So, I hope you don't mind these reminders :P, but since the vote for why is Jaypaw Blind? is passed, shouldn't it be archived? xD  22:37, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I took care of it now. And yes, I'm feeling much better now. Being the only lead actually working here kinda makes things stressful, and I often forget things. -- ◄ Shattered ƒlamε ► ♫  Sin   With   A   Grin   ♫ 17:00, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The Darkest Hour ~ Silver Nomination
Gallery: I added a citation for the cat on the cover. Comments? 22:42, May 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * According to the guidelines (and general project practices), Galleries cannot get silver independently of the main article, they are proposed the same time the main article is. The Darkest Hour is actually a good article, but the cliffnotes page needs sorting out before the pack getting silver. 14:13, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreeing with Helix. Why not just fix up the Cliffnotes and set the whole thing for Silver vote? -- ◄ Shattered ƒlamε ► ♫  Sin   With   A   Grin   ♫ 17:00, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I see xD I guess I should re-read the guidelines. Yes, I guess I'll fix up the cliffnotes and nominate the whole thing :D 22:01, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Expanded Cliffnotes. Comments? 00:02, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Looks better. Can chapters 8, 15-20 and chapter 23 be expanded any? I realize some of the chapters may be short though. Also, please make sure that all of the bullets have periods after them. :) Sk ye  Me ow 00:09, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I expanded as much as I can. Anything else? 00:19, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Can you take care of the period thing I asked you to do above? Other then that, I see nothing else wrong. Unless someone else thinks that they should be expanded anymore.  Sk ye  Me ow 00:22, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oh! Oops, I forgot about that. I'll fix it right now. 20:44, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Comments? 21:30, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Elders
Hey, guys. I was going through and I noticed that the members list needs to be cleaned. So, does anyone have a problem with me removing the current Elders and replacing them with another bunch? I'll probably go through and check the contributions later on today, so, pay attention for updates.  Sk ye  Me ow 15:46, May 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I went through and found some. Here are the ones I found.


 * Blackclaw09 - Last edit: April 25, 2011. Last Project edit: November 25, 2010
 * Clarrissa koins - Last edit: March 1st, 2011. Last Project edit: March 13, 2010
 * Echoheart - Last edit: December 31, 2010. Last Project edit: March 13, 2010
 * Echostar - Last edit: January 15, 2010. Last Project edit: August 13, 2010
 * FirePelt - Last edit: December 17, 2010. Last Project edit: November 14, 2010
 * Goldenpaw (Goldenpelt?) - Last edit: May 22, 2010. Past Project edit: April 1st, 2010
 * Grayravenpaw - It says on his profile that he's left the wiki.
 * I'll go through the rest of the list later.  Sk ye  Me ow 19:04, May 26, 2011 (UTC)