Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Prey-Hunter Blanks - For approval
(M) - Alright! I've drawn cats for awhile now, so I thought I'd put it to good use!


 * Double lineart? Cheak.


 * About the right size? Cheak.

All it needs is a transparent bckground. Could somebody do that for me please? I know how to do it, but I've had some troubles and I don't want to risk anything! Thanks! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)



OMG, ur so good! =] This are real good. Lets see what everyone else says- but wait, some pplz made leaders with the warrior blanks... Lavastream, SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 20:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've done the transparency for you and had no problems with pixlr... don't know what that was about. As for the images. I like the position you've chosen and overall they are very good. There are a few things though. Firstly their backs are quite bumpy... Secondly, their heads are quite small and could be a bit bigger. I also think the fur on the belly of the longhaired looks strange and needs to be a bit... neater (that sounds so stupid). We also nede to think about how easy they'll be to colour. Sandy Talk! 20:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanies! I think the people who made leaders with warrior blanks understood that leader blanks would be made one day. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you mean that they coloured Bluestar in a warrior blank for example. If so then the reason for that is that we are eventually hoping to get images of all ranks every cat has ever upheld. They will all be added to a character's page together. Sandy Talk! 20:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'll fix these some more tomorrow... but for now, the fur and backs have been fixed on the male and female longhaired. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

There is gray on the picture? Lavastream, SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 01:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

That's the transparent background Mistfur Sandy Talk! 13:32, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

'''(M) - Note: I will be gone for the next week or so. Please do not delete these images. I am planning to work on them as soon as I am done with camp. Thank you.''' Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:17, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I got rid of the grey and decreased the pointyness of the chin, but it's not showing up for me. I'm going to work on these some more tomorrow. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the grey on the images (It wasn't the transparent background that Mistfur was talking about), decreased the pointedness of the chin, and fixed the backs on the other balnks. Is there a trick to increasing the size of the head? Thankies! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 18:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I was thinking... I don't know how bad you'd think this idea but I really like these and especially as prey-hunter blanks because it looks like they're leaping on prey as the mountain cats leap... dunno. Just a thought.  Sandy Talk! 17:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I love that idea Sandy! Should I put some kind of prey underneath their paws or just leave it? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) I edited the images slightly, but I can't upload do to my computer freezing, so I'll upload them later. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm worried how easy will the prey-hunters color, I think you should use an example like what Bramble did with the queen blanks, so when we are going to approve the prey-hunters we can approve the example.--Yai-Girl 02:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl


 * I got bored and decided to do an example for you. I didn't have any cat in mind when I did it but I guess it could be Brook.



I really like the shorthaired and they're not actually that hard to use at all but the long-haired's fur is still bothering me. It's kind of... spikey... Also, the hind legs on them all need to be a little longer I think and on the longhaired there is a strange indent on the front leg.  Sandy Talk! 12:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Now that I can upload again (I have no clue what that was about) I fixed some pixels and the indent on the paw. I'm going to work on the longhairs and fix the legs.

Also, thank you for coloring that image! It looks nice. :3 Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 18:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Fixed the fur on the longhaired. I didn't fix the haunch because it looked really strange when I did.

The main thing that's bothering me is that these blanks seem smaller than the other blanks, yet when I try to increase the sixe it blurs it. Any suggestions? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I know... I don't know what to say as they blurred for me too.. there must be a way though  Sandy Talk! 19:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * To me, they look small, so make the head bigger and scale the blank. (You can do that in paint or photoshop, whatever program you choose. --Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 22:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The head is kind of egg shaped, it needs a stop. Also, could you make them a little bigger?-- Darkhallows Lair 17:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - My computer's being worked on (I'm using my parent's laptop), so I can't work on these for the next 2 to 3 days. Please do not delete these. I'll work on them as soon as the computer's fixed. Thank you! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 18:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Wow, the computer was fixed way sooner than I thought... Well, I increased the size of the long female blanks. I really don't know if they're any good, so let me know if this looks okay, and then I'll make the other ones this size. :) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 18:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Well, nobody's commented yet, so I increased the size of the other blanks, and took away the background transparency (There was some discussion about this on the queen blanks). Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for not commenting, Moss. The long haired bellies look weird, like they're spiked with gel or something. Take off those angles; I know it's supposed to look like long fur, but we'll see how to improve them after you take them off, cause they really do look weird. And also, you know how in the other blanks, the hind legs have a curve to them? Add that to your hind legs and see how they look. -- Bramble My Realm 16:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - No problem Bramble! I'm giving one last shot at the belly fur. If this is bad, then somebody else can do it. I used a different style that I've seen used on a few blanks. I also tried to fixed the haunch, although I think I failed. :/ Also, can somebody please tell me how to increase the head size on pixlr? Thank you! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 23:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I likez zis belly fur. -- Dawnfeather talk! 06:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This belly fur is awesome! It looks so natural and everything. Okay, we need to get these approved. The near foreleg on allof them is big and then it suddenly slims itself; slim the whole leg so it looks even. On the near hindleg, the paw had a sharp protrusion; round that off. The back ear is like a corner to the near ear, make it smaller and more pointed like the first ear. The shoulder is a bit too big, or pronounced, but make it slightly smaller and less noticeable. Last, the way you had the neck, the space is a rather sharp angle. Round it off as well. Oh wait; this is the last thing:Don't be discouraged by my long post. :) These are great, and just need a few tweakings before approval. -- Bramble My Realm 11:15, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Actually, I like long posts Brable; there's nothing more annoying then knowing you can work on your image but you can't do anything becuase you don't know what's wrong. :) All your comments have been completed. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 22:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)



Glad you do. :) The ear looks a lot better, but the front leg is still bugging me. I made a diagram to show you what I mean. Also, the front paw needs to be altered; I showed that in the diagram too. Still use thickened lineart, though. -- Bramble My Realm 23:01, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Oh, thanks for the diagram! We had a major communication breakdown there. Ha! Anways, I fixed the foreleg. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 23:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

It looks very good now. You've done a great job on these. I think they should be approved. is there anything else, members? -- Bramble My Realm 18:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)



(M) - Yay! Oh, and I colored in a long-haired, just incase you wanted to see one colored. It's Mist. (And if you wanted to do her, no worries, because I'm not planning on putting her up for approval anytime soon.) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:04, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - '''I will not be able to get on for the next 5 days. Please do not delete these. Thank you!''' Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 17:00, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I think these are ready. Comments before apprval? (please approve/comment when 24 hrs are up, I will be gone) -- Bramble My Realm 21:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

For the most part, I think these look great! But the thing that's bothering me is the muzzle. It should stick out farther on all of them, they look flat. If you need a better explanation I can draw you a diagram/example thing. :) --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 05:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Greencloud, and the head should be a bit bigger in proportion to the body.Minnowclaw 20:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

(M) - Goldencloud ~ I didn't fix the muzzle becuase it looked like a dog when I did. :) If you could draw an example that would be great.

Minnowclaw ~ I finally figured out how to increase the head size! Yay!

Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:20, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I also fixed the ear and shoulder. (The ears were a little too pointy and the shoulder was basically a straight line.) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:58, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Any more things I should fix? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 23:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Can you get rid of the flick on the eyes of the males? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I got bored and did a second test image for the full size blanks. It's Storm Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Sandy ~ Thanks for catching that; it was an editing mistake. :) Your Storm is uber cool, it looks just like I thought Storm would look like! Don't forget to put in a pupil though. (Which can be done, as I did it on my Mist.) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 17:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Blossomkit (TC)- For approval
Worst. Image. Ever. Meh, I did the other one so... Sorry I was gone for a few days.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 01:27, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not the worst image ever. :) Make the ginger patches a bit more spread out, and since she's tortie maybe add in some ginger specks on the black to make it look more broken up, and not like she's just black with white and ginger patches. She's actually really good right now. -- Bramble My Realm 02:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I like it! Try making the ginger patches darker though. They look golden. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Played around with the ginger.<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 04:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it looked better before... Also, the ginger needs to be redder as it's kinda golden now (as M&S mentioned) <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - The ginger's still golden...also, there are jagged lines through the ginger patches. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 18:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The patches look more yellow than ginger. Silver tree  ♥  17:39, 30 June, 2009 (UTC)

Any better now?--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 17:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Much, although those ginger patches still have those lines through them... Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 18:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Ginger on torties has stripes ^^.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I actually really like it now! <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Oh, sorry. I've never actually seen a torishell up close, to be honest. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 18:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

This is one of the best torties I've ever seen. :) And you said it was the worst image ever, DH. Comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 19:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * This is wonderful, but the ginger looks golden,a dn could be more orange-coloured. --<span style="font:13px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:Silver 2px solid;background-color:#6699FF;padding:05px;"> Mal Sorrel-Wolf 15:37, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

... I think it's be to dark if I changed it... any other opinions on it? --<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I like it as it is but you could try it with a more orange colour and put them side by side to see... <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 11:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I appoligize for sounding whiny but it looks horrible whenever I try to change it. I think it will have to stay like this :/.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 08:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't have a problem. Anyone else? <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

The black of her tortie pelt has turned very gray. it needsto be a stronger/darker black (but light enough that you can still see the line art) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 00:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I might not be able to tell because they're small, but it looks like you forgot to color the eyes... I might just be mistaken if they're colored dark, but it looks like the fur color... --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 23:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

'''Please note that I will be gone untill Friday as I am going to the beach. I may have internet acsess... but probably not. Gah I just got back from camping -dead- --Darkhallows is on a cellphone and can't  make tildes'''

My computer is broken, but I'll work on when I get home (I'm at a class thinggy now...)--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 16:11, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Darkened.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 05:39, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, Repeating 24 hours before approval <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:29, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I love it! It's actually pretty close to the color of a real tortie, especially now that you've darkened the black. The white patches could be a little bit more petal-shaped, though. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:IceBlue; background:violet; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Sparrowsong ( talk! ) 21:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I can barely see the pink on her right (our left) ear.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 21:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Poppyfrost - for approval


Here's my first Tortoiseshell. I know it needs major improvements but I want your guys' opinion. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  21:56, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

That's so cool Sandwich! I think she looks pretty good, I just think that she needs some color on her face, if you know what I mean. I also need some help creating a charcat, everytime I try, it won't do the right color! It ends up black or white or gray. Please tell me what painting sites are used by the charcat project warriors. <font color="lime" style="background:Purple">Hawkfire <font color="orange" style="background:purple">Rock and roll all nite! 22:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

She's pretty nice, and there's certainly plenty of shading that I can see. I would suggest splitting that big black patch that comes down from her ear with orange, because that looks better in my mind. We'll see what it looks like after that. -- Bramble My Realm 23:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The only thing that jumps out at me is that tortoiseshells have more black on them than any other color most of the time. Your picture looks like it has more white on it than anything. Try making the head black, and we'll see how that looks. Looks great! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 00:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

MAde her more black. Sand wich  989  00:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Add chin shading, also there is a gray line under her. Nice job though ^^.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 03:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Er...Poppyfrost is a tortoiseshell... You made her a tortoisehsell-and white,becuase the base color is white. Try to put more black...--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#65909A">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#B0E0E6">Warrior's Den 16:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought Poppyfrost was tortie and white Warrior... <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 17:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the gray line, added chin shading and even a little more black. And in Twilight she was described as a tiny copy of Sorreltail adn Sorreltail is a tortie and white. Sand wich  989  18:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, she is... Strike my post, then. But the ginger looks a bit....bright.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#65909A">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#B0E0E6">Warrior's Den 20:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Anything else?(Sorry I'm really impatient) Sand wich  989  14:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

The ginger patch on the head looks a bit bright. Maybe try darkening it a shade. --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#65909A">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#B0E0E6">Warrior's Den 17:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Darkened it. Sand wich  989  18:23, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'd get rid of that white/grey strip under the tail. It looks unatural. Other than that, this looks great. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know what you meant by that but I fixed the tail. Sand wich  989  20:42, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Look at the tail. That white on there looks unatural; I'd take it off and simply continue the ginger and black. Sorry for not being clear the first time. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 17:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

The black is too black; it blends right in with the lineart. Try making it like a light black color, like with a Breezepelt or Blackclaw color. -- Bramble My Realm 21:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Cross out what I said about the tail. Sorreltail has it too, so... I'd just do what Bramble said. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 16:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Made the black lighter. Sand wich  989  22:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

In the process of doing that you also made the eye lineart gray. And there is still a dark black patch by her hind foot still. -- Bramble My Realm 22:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Made eye lineart black. But I thought since the black on her hind leg is in the shadows it would be that color anyway. Sand wich  989  19:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

It looks out of place. Make it the same color as the rest of the black and then shade it. It will look more natural. -- Bramble My Realm 11:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed what you said to fix. Sand wich  989  18:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

The back ear is black. Then that's all I see, and she can probably be approved. Great job! -- Bramble My Realm 01:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

fixed ear. Sand wich  989  03:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

You turned the lineart on the back ear and part of the head gray. :) -- Bramble My Realm 14:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

fixed ear. Sand wich  989  18:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

She looks great. I'll turn her transparent for you when she's approved. Comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 18:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Most of the ginger areas have shading, but you left out a few places, the base of the tail for instance. Also, I can't see any shading on the black at all. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 11:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I didn't like the tail shading so I changed it. Sand wich  989  19:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments before approval in 24 hours? <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

The ginger on the tail is different to the ginger on the rest of the body. (I'm picky =D) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 13:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Really? I used the same color for it... Sand wich  989  19:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

It looks more fluoro in the shading. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 00:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't get what your saying. Sand wich  989  18:31, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

On the tail, the shading for the ginger isa fluoro-ish colour, where as on the rest of the body, it is just a darker ginger. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 23:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

So the shading on the tail is darker where as the shading on the body is lighter? Sand wich  989  02:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

No, the shading on the tail looks fluoro, but the shading on the body looks normal. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 01:21, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I think she means the tail looks buldgy. Try blending it a tiny bit more.Minnowclaw 17:14, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Is this better? If not I guess it's because the shading I did was like almost 3 weeks ago and I can't remember it. Sand wich  989  00:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There's a faint gray line under the paws. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 00:16, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I think I fixed it, but I couldn't see it though XD. Sand wich  989  20:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Much better. However, there is some smudging outside of the lineart. (If you have the wand tool, click the background, then zoom in 800%. This make it incredibly easy to see smudging.) Also, the background needs to be transparent. (I can do this for you, if you want.) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Talltail- For approval


Look everyone! My first real charcat!!! Let me know if it has issues, I shaded him and everything!! I want this charcat to be approved. <font color="lime" style="background:Purple">Hawkfire <font color="orange" style="background:purple">Rock and roll all nite! 15:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, first of all, I changed the section to Talltail, since that was his warrior name, and as we'll be seeing him in Bluestar's Prophecy as a warrior it will work. Now, the black patches on him need to a color-slightly-lighter-than-black, because then it just goes with the lineart. Lighten the black, and then we'll go from there. Also, if you're still using Paint, I would highly recommend getting GIMP or using pixlr. -- Bramble My Realm 17:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Bramble's right. For some idea of what an approved black and white cat should look like take a look at Crowfrost, smallkit or toadkit (approved images). That's the standard we need before approval <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

His eye looks like he's sinister; perhaps this could be changed?--Yai-Girl 16:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

He looks like he popped right out of Pokemon. Give him less of an angry-japanese look. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:51, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, Okay. I redid him. Does he look any better? Hawkfire My Den 17:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Why are his feet black?--Yai-Girl 17:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

He is better, but I would suggest a black patch on his foreleg coming up to his chest, and lighten the black even more. You also need to blur the transition between black and white on all the places. Some more shading is needed, too. Keep it up, and he'll be approved in no time. And Yai, I'm presuming his paws are black cause he's a black and white cat. -- Bramble My Realm 17:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I smudged him, added more shading, and added that patch Bramble wanted. Comments? Hawkfire My Den 18:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

What's with all the tiny black dots? And try blurring instead if smudging. Sand wich  989  19:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Anything else? :) And I have no idea how those black dots get there sandwich, I set it to png but they wont go away! Hawkfire My Den 19:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the black dots anymore. I think you just add shading and blend it in and it will look good. Sand wich  989  22:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I did blend, and I did add shading. I just brightened the shading to make it a silvery color. Anything else? Hawkfire My Den 13:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

The black needs to be a lot lighter, and I think in places it goes outside the lineart. -- Bramble My Realm 19:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anyn shading. But I would do is make the blur tool brush big enough so half of it can be on the black and half of it can be on the white and just run it until the black and white stops. Do that where there is all black and white next together. Sand wich  989  19:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? Hawkfire My Den 20:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Make the black slightly lighter than what you have now so you can see the lineart. And it still needs more shading and the patches need blending. Your doing great. =)--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#65909A">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#B0E0E6">Warrior's Den 20:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I found the perfect shade of black! I added more shading, and I added more blending, is it better? Hawkfire My Den 14:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This is the best yet, and it is a great shade of black. The shading is too pronounced, though, it needs to be more blurred and less standoutish. -- Bramble My Realm 14:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the shading Hawkfire My Den 12:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Better, yes, but put a little bit of the normal black color between the shading and the white on that patch in the middle of his back. His ear pink also needs to be blended more into the pelt. -- Bramble My Realm 19:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? Reuploaded. Hawkfire My Den 19:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

The patches looks smudge inches into the pelt in some places and not blended at all. And I suggest making it a shade darker than pure white.--<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 20:20, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Like this? Hawkfire My Den 12:57, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes! Add some more shading on the chest and possible the muzzle and I think he'll be ready. Perhaps blend the ear pink a little too. <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Will this work? Hawkfire My Den 02:28, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

You don't think that you could possibly blend in the shading more? The line between non-shading and shading is still rather distinctive. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 13:37, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * There also looks like a smudge spot near the base of his tail, but on his back.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 17:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

This looks great, Hawkfire. I'd suggest you lighten the shading, though. And the black is too dark. I would use the same black as Crowfeather or maybe Nightcloud. Sparrowsong 21:20, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hawkfire My Den 21:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The patches need blended more. Look at Patchfoot, Smallkit, and other patched cats for reference. --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 23:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? Hawkfire My Den 16:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments? Hawkfire My Den 21:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Again, the ear is the problem here. You need to sort it in the same way as you need to sort Jumpfoot's Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Jumpfoot-for approval
This is Jumpfoot. Comments? Hawkfire My Den 16:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

The eye looks deformed, the ear pink looks like anime, and there's a big black scratch mark on the back. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

The shadows and highlights look well placed, they just need to be blended a lot. Try to make it look as smooth as you can without completely smudging the color. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 17:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Blend. The ear pink and the shading both need blending. <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I will blend. And mess with the ear. The "Black scratch mark" is his muscle, he is a muscular tom. Hawkfire My Den 02:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

You can take that out. We can't really show that he's muscular. Showing him as a black tom with green eyes will suffice. -- Bramble My Realm 18:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded, Better? I blended shading and messed with ear. I also took out the muscle. Is that all? Hawkfire My Den 19:20, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I think this is the best one you've done, Hawkey. :) You just need to make his ear pink more this color: and more triangular. That's all I can see off the top my head. -- Bramble My Realm 21:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? I fixed the ear. Hawkfire My Den

Because he's a black cat try making the ear pink smaller. It's exactly the right colour, only it is too big. On a black cat it is not so visible. Almost there Hawkfire <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Better Sandy? Hawkfire My Den 18:33, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Better but it still needs to be a little smaller. <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? I smallered (lol) the ear. :) blended a little more too. Hawkfire My Den 01:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Better :) This looks really nice Hawkey. Any more comments before approval in 24 hours? <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

The ear colour is still a bit... dodgy... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 13:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Its supposed to look like that, Dawn :) I think it looks fine, maybe it's just your computer. All comps are different Hawkfire My Den 02:16, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I think I know what Dawn means. It looks like you put red on it and dodged it a couple times. You could make it more pink-ish. ;)--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 18:38, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the ear. Can he be approved now? Hawkfire My Den 01:59, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

No becuase the color is too dark. Use this:Minnowclaw 16:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

That color is too light for a black cat.

Okay I fixed the ear. And also, the color is supposed to be a lot lighter than pure black so that we can see the line art Hawkfire My Den 18:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I am such a nut I forgot to sign and didn't finish the post. I meant to say the ear color; it needs to be dark pink, because that looks like a wad of gum is stuck to his ear. Keep it inside the lineart, and make it more triangular. Copy it like the other approved ears exactly. -- Bramble My Realm 20:56, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hawkfire My Den 02:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

It looks like a fluro dark red color. Try a more pink color. What I do is go to a bright hot pink, then go darker and bring the palette a left so it's a touch lighter. Also try to bring it up more and smooth it out because i looks like it's popping out of the ear.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 22:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

F.Y.I Bramble told me to make it dark pink, and also I am getting real tired of changing the ear pink. Accept the color please. Hawkfire My Den 00:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't be rude, Hawkey. It does look like it's popping out of the ear. Blur it. A lot. So it looks like it's inside the ear, and not stuck on like a wad of cotton candy. Do the same for your Talltail, and make his a darker pink. As for the color, note that dark pink is not the same as hot pink. -- Bramble My Realm 01:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

You need to use the pink Bramble gave you further up this section: <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for being rude, I am just frustrated. I am way overeacting, and I will fix the ears witha smile on my face. Okay that color pink coming up! Hawkfire My Den 13:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Does the ear look better? I made it more triangular and a lighter color. Hawkfire My Den 15:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * iIt stills looks fluro. If your using pixlr, copy the image adress of the color Bramble and Sandy gave you, use the color picker and click it. Then go back to the image and put that color in it.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 20:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Done Hawkfire My Den 23:56, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments? Hawkfire My Den 21:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Make it smaller and blend it in. Look at the pixels for Nightcloud, Whitethroat, Blackclaw to see how the ear should look on black fur. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:30, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Like this? Hawkfire My Den 14:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Duskfur (W)- For Approval


Okay, I wanted to try a tabby, so I did Duskfur of Riverclan. I was so mad because I finished it, saved it wrong, and then was unable to reopen and resave it, so I had to redo the entire picture. So much trouble for a cat. -.- Improvement tips? Silver tree  ♥  21:38, 10 July, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby marks look like they were made with water colors, you can see through them and they looked liquidy. There also needs to be some more of them, slightly smaller and more thin. -- Bramble My Realm 17:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated. I re-did all the stripes. Are they opaque enough? Silver tree  ♥  16:57, 11 July, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, much better. You just need to add a stripe on her haunch near the tail, where that gap is, and <S>also add a marking by her eye. She looks awesome now. -- Bramble My Realm 21:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Never mind the eye comment. -- Bramble My Realm 21:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated Added the tabby mark. Anything else? Silver tree  ♥  18:11, 11 July, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the tabby markings more and make them more subtle.MinnowclawMinnowclaw

The ear looks shrunk. Little more ear pink, please. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated' Fixed the ear and blended the tabby marks.

The markins are very dark - try lightening them a little and then blending them slightly more so they look more natural. Also, the ear pink is too fluro and needs to be more triangle shaped (make sure you blend though). [ps. please sign with four ~s] <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Your need to BLEND a lot more on the tabby marking and shading.Minnowclaw 23:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I really hate to do this but this hasn't been worked on for a while either, almost a whole week I believe since Silvertree's last posted wasn't stamped I can't really tell. I give it a 24 hour notice before it shall be declined for good.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 18:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated So sorry, I forgot to edit when I was busy with something else for another website. I blended the marks some more. Silver tree  ♥  21:28, 20 July, 2009 (UTC)

Your image isn't showing up. Please upload the right image, Silvertree :) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, there we go. I had forgotten to upload it (like a smart person.) Silver  tree  ♥  18:59, 22 July, 2009 (UTC)

Leopardkit - For approval


Please excuse my absence. I had to go to camp for two weeks and didn't have a computer. She didn't have an eye color so I made it blue. Comments? Minnowclaw 14:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * She needs darker shading and a chin, so use shading to create a chin like on Dovekit, Briarkit, and Flamekit. --<span style="font:12px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:Silver 2px solid;background-color:#6699FF;padding:04px;"> Mal Sorrel-Wolf 14:20, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

This better?Minnowclaw 14:32, 12 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I have to, like, bend over and squint to see the shading. It needs to be a bit more seeable. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC) pa

I went over the shading once with the burn tool. Is this better? Minnowclaw 00:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The second one I then dogged twice. Which is better?Minnowclaw 02:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The second one. I still think it needs more shading though <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I burned it again and dodged it twice again. Better?Minnowclaw 23:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Let me rephrase. By more I meant thicker shading, not darker. The colour is fine, just extend it on the neck and sides a little so it's not such a thin line hugging the lineart. <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 21:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Please comment...Minnowclaw 20:04, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

All shading needs to be blurred a lot, as the shading is too sharply defined. -- Bramble My Realm 22:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Is this better?Minnowclaw 00:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Not very much. The shading is still very distinct. Blur lots (I'll tell you if it's too much) and also thin out her neck shading; it's too thick. -- Bramble My Realm 01:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 20:53, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Absolutely. Comments before approval in 24? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 18:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Nightpelt For Approval


This is Nightpelt, ShadowClan's leader Nightstar as a warrior. He's my very first character art so tell me what ever I could do to make it better! --Nightflight 20:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

The eye needs to be bigger and amber instead of red, and the right ear needs to show the inside, and it looks like the back is lower in the middle. Boltstar 20:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Your shading style is lovely, it looks like his pelt is gleaming. But the black needs to be lighter so we can see the lineart. You can look at Hollyleaf, Nightcloud or Breezepelt for reference. Use this: for reference on how to do the eye. Also, I thought Nightpelt was short-haired. But that's all, he looks great other wise. -- Bramble My Realm 21:01, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I re-uploaded it. I hope it's still shaded okay. And it says that he's a "old, long furred tom."--Nightflight 21:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I think the eye looks absolutely beautiful. The new black color is okay, in my opinion. Boltstar 22:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Very nice eye. And his color is now great and shading still remains good, cept it needs to be blurred just a bit. :) I took it off thumbnail, so I could better look at it. Can you tell me where it said he's long furred? Also; you blurred some of the lineart; on the tip of the head, right beside the ear, in the middle of the back, and on part of the tail. You need to replace the lineart in those spots. This is a great first image. -- Bramble My Realm 22:15, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

It says that he's long furred on his page, Nightstar. --Nigthflight 22:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I need a book reference. There's an anon running around that loves to add false details into descriptions. All Nightpelt is in the books I've read is an old black tom. -- Bramble My Realm 22:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I've checked every book he's in and mentioned; he's not longhaired. I changed his article, as well. Sorry for the mixup. :) I can convert him to shorthaired, if you want. I won't change anything you've done with his coloring. -- Bramble My Realm 23:04, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I know. I was wondering about that. I am working on changing him now, I'll like that. --Nigthflight 00:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh I am so sorry! I was the one who put that he was long furred on his page. I always imagined him like that. I do know he is a black tom with amber eyes tho. SOrry! Hawkfire My Den 02:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I did too, I kinda thought that he looked like Yellowfang, long, ruffled fur. It's alright! :) --Nigthflight 03:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

He needs some ear pink :) <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

The outline is blurred all the way around. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 11:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I redid him. He is shorthaired, and has ear pink. Hope the shading is okay still. --Nigthflight 23:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 11:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I can barely see the ear pink. I know he's a black cat but it still needs to be visible... <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:32, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I made him lighter. Hopefully he's better. --Nigthflight 00:31, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I still can't see the ear pink. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 13:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I can BARELY see the ear pink, it's almost black. --: LST DragonClan's Camp 19:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

HE isn't the problem. The EAR is the problem. Use this for the color:Minnowclaw 17:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

No don't. Use this colour as he's a black cat: The ear pink for dark-coated cats needs to be darker. <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't bene worked on in a week. Please work on him in 24 hours or he will be declined. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Bluestar-for approval

 * Here's Bluestar! The first leader we were all introduced to back in the good old days =D. I had fun making this with the upcoming release of Bluestar's Prophecy. The only problem I had doing was with her silver tinge lining her muzzle. Any suggestions on it?-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:05, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * There's too many smudges on the lineart, and I have a suggestion on the muzzle, just run over it with the silver brush lightly along the sides and blur. That's what I did on my very ugly Bluefur. --<span style="font:12px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:Silver 2px solid;background-color:#6699FF;padding:04px;"> Mal Sorrel-Wolf 01:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I alwasy thought that she was short-furred. The books said that she was 'sleek' didn't they --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 03:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

This is beautiful. Just blend some of the colours together more as it does look a little smudgy. She really is beautiful though <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Blend the ear pink and the muzzle a tiny bit more. Also, I agree with Dawn. It did say that she was sleek and I think that means she is short haired. Where is a reference that she had long hair?Minnowclaw 23:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It says several times she has long fur, I'm not at home so I don't have a book to check... --<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 16:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well until we can have this all cleared, I made two versions of Bluestar, one thats longhaired and the other is shorthaired. When we can figure it all out, I'll delete the one that isn't needed since they are on the same file together (takes up less space). I took Mal's suggestion with the muzzle and I blended the colors and ear.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 02:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

She's longhaired. Remember when she asked Fireheart the newly appointed deputy to escort her to HighStones? Just the two of them? It says then something about her getting out of breath and Fireheart hopes it was just because of her thicker fur. Um... here we go. p61/62 of the paperback version of Rising Storm (Sandstorm and Fireheart cover version) "Perhaps it's just climbing in this heat, he thought hopefully, After all, her pelt is thicker than mine." I think this shows she is longhaired but I can find another reference if there's still doubt. This was just the first that came to mind. Keep the longhaired, Shimmer <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:35, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok since that is solved, here we have just longhaired.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 15:56, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

blend the silver linning a bit more.Minnowclaw 17:01, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowlcaw

(M) - Try making the muzzle tinged completely. On Firestar's Quest, look at Firestar's muzzle on the front. Try doing it like that. (And I can show you, I you'd like.) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 16:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * UpdatedWell I redid the muzzle.I decided to just try and do the whole muzzle. I can always change it.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 18:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Much better, but could you smudge it a little more, especially around the chin? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * UpdatedI smudged the part with the muzzle of course if i do it anymore i'll start smudging the line art on her chest.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 19:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC)



(M) - The tinge is still bothering me. I drew you a diagram (hope you don't mind) of where the tinge should go. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Tallstar(Le)- For approval
Comments?--Yai-Girl 14:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Very good. =) Maybe tone the ear pink a shade lighter, blend the black patches, and add shading.--<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 15:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Good, just do all the things above, and make the eye amber (orange) because it's yellow and he has amber eyes. Hawkfire My Den 21:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

He looks more really dark brown then he does black. That may just be my computer though.--: LST DragonClan's Camp 00:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

He looks good, but he has no shading. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 03:35, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I added shading, made the ear pink lighter, made the eyes amber, and blurred the black. Anything else?--Yai-Girl 15:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl


 * I can only see shading on the back and tail. He could use some on his hind legs.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 15:50, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit, I can barley see it. Also, add some shading on the hid leg.Minnowclaw 17:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Better?--Yai-Girl 04:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

(M) - The tendril on the nose looks strange. Try widening it at the bottem and then gradually thinning it out. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Moss, and I also think the shading needs to be blurred a bit. Also add a white pixel by the pupils, for a highlight. -- Bramble My Realm 20:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I forgot how to blend shading again, sorry.--Yai-Girl 04:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I looked at the approved leaders. How does he look?--Yai-Girl 05:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

To blend shading use the smudge or blur tool and run it across it. Use the dodge tool for shading, but it wont work on white images so make his pelt color just a shade darker than pure white.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 17:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I changed him, how does he look?--Yai-Girl 15:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

dark... his white patches are grey now... Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd have to agree with Sandy. Overall he's darker. I'd suggest going over it with the dodge tool in some places for brighter highlights to bring it up to near white and possibly making his eyes lighter as well? -- Quiet ! 08:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Better?--Yai-Girl 15:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

He still needs to be a bit lighter. Just darker than pure white. Also, blend the shading into the pelt. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:18, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Thunderstar - for approval
Comments?Minnowclaw 16:07, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Please...Minnowclaw 20:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * I could have sworn I commented...oh yeah there was some editing conflict. Well I said that I know he is orange and is bright as autumn leaves, but I believe he is well...too orange and bright.Maybe darken him some. It might be my computer's saturation and brightness.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 21:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Is this better shimer?Minnowclaw 21:29, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I think he should be a reddish brown color but he looks very nice.Stonestar


 * Decided to look at an Autumn Leaf to help me compare, and I believe Stonestar is right. A reddish brown, but don't make it too dark. Other than that he's fine.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 03:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. (Stonestar, can you please sign with 4 ~s thanks) <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 07:16, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok like Shimmer said don't make him too dark--Stonestar 12:37, 18 July 2009 (UTC)User:Stonestar

Also make his nose a slightly darker pink. It looks too pale. -- Bramble My Realm 20:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Is this any better?Minnowclaw 23:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks better but it need to be more of a brownish orange color Stonestar 0:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I think I finally have the right color. Is this good?Minnowclaw 02:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Ooh! I <3 The ear on our right is at a strange angle though. Make sure both the ear pinks are triangular, of the same size and are blended properly. Try and follow the inside line of the ;ineart (if all that makes any sense at all) <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 13:42, 19 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks a lot better but it needs to be slightly browner. --StonestarStonestar 22:04, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. He's a ginger cat not a brown cat. He doesn't need to be any more brown. <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * He doesn't need to be darker, but his tail is very light. It could use more shading. Also his ears seem like they are an unnatural pink. Make them a little darker.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 18:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the ear pink and the tail, is this better?(Sorry about not getting to updating)Minnowclaw 20:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Looks good to me. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Brightheart(Ki) - For Approval
I wanted to have a go at a kit. Can anyone tell me how to put shading on a white kit? --Spottedwing 18:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

1.) Add shading by taking the brush tool in pixlr.com, choose the 5 brush and change the exposer to 50%. Put the brush when the shding should go and blend.

2.) The patches look to circleish and ovalish. Make them sort of lumpy.

3.) Blend all the patches and ear pink

Do this and it should be good.Minnowclaw 19:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * Like Minnowclaw said, fix the patches. No cat has such even markings like this.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 21:14, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Minnowclaw and Shimmer. To put shading on a white cat you need to make sure the cat isn't pure white. Make her slightly greyish so the shading will show up. <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 07:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I finally got her reuploaded. My computer is being slow again. I added shading and redid the patches. What do you guys think? --Spottedwing 21:53, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Try to position the patches like on the queen and warrior versions of her. I thinkIt's nice that you're using a different shade then those, as then they're all different and as ginger changes in the lighting... Also, the eyes are very dark green. Try lightening them like on the warrior and queen versions. Finally, my computer's coming back tommorrow! I can put up Oakheart, Jayfeather, and Crookedstar! --<span style="font:12px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:Silver 2px solid;background-color:#6699FF;padding:04px;"> Mal Sorrel-Wolf 12:26, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

This is very good but the ginger splotches need to be more lumpy the one on her head is good though. User:Stonestar 13:47, July 19 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the blotches more lumpy and I added another blotch between her legs. I also made her eyes lighter. --Spottedwing 17:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

She needs more shading on the neck, head and left side of her body. Blend the edges of the patches slightly and also the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The shading is really bothering me. Her right forepaw has the regular white while the rest of her is darker and has more shading. Fix this by adding some of the regular white in her. Also blend the patches like Sandy said.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 18:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry it took so long. It's fair week and I'm so busy with my animals, that I'm barly at home. I made her white, went over the shading, and tried blending in the blotches. --Spottedwing 02:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

It's a good start. Blend the shading just a bit more, though, and add some on the chin. Sparrowsong 03:16, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry to be OT, but does anyone know why this page is locked? I don't see why it needs to be.

Yes, she's getting there! Just thicken the shading slightly anf add more under the chin, then blend it all in. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I added shading on her neck. --Spottedwing 02:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Leafstar - For Approval


After my epic failure with Spottedleaf, I decided to do the cat she gave a life to. I couldn't find a pic of a cream-and-tabby cat, so I hope this is alright. Constructments? -- Bramble My Realm 21:08, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Bramble she is gorgeous! I just think that she should have a creamy muzzle and chest. Maybe blend the ear pink a little more, besides that she is just amazing. :) Hawkfire My Den 22:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful Bramble! I think you should do as Hawk said and make her have a white muzzle and chest. Otherwise, perfect as usual!Minnowclaw 01:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * I tried her as a warrior, and I did a cream cat with brown markings, but this is better. I do suggest adding a cream muzzle and chest. --<span style="font:12px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:Silver 2px solid;background-color:#6699FF;padding:04px;"> Mal  Sorrel-Wolf 16:12, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I tried adding a creamy colored chest and muzzle but it looked very odd when I did. I tried a palish brown muzzle, but the chest I kept the same. -- Bramble My Realm 18:43, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I really like this and think she looks okay without a cream chest (I can see how that would be kind of tricky). Does anyone else have nay comments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Blackstar(W)- for approval


This is my first Charcat, so I would like some tips on where and how to make them, because I can't do nice blurred shading on MS Paint, so, what are you people doing? O_o Critisism welcome. By the way, I made the feet lighter black, but just REALLYYY hard to see that. -Fernpool

Not bad for your first try, but add shading, ear pink (make sure to blend it), and make the eye look alive. Make the feet slighter lighter than pure black, so we can see the lineart. Blend the shading once you add it on Blackfoot. I highly recommend using Pixlr, Photoshop, or GIMP. Try fixing Blackstar on www.pixlr.com I use paint to color, make ear pink, and adding tabby stripes, Paint is not very recommended (unless you know how to use it like me!)  Hawkfire My Den 22:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Look at Cloudtail for a reference on shading and ear pink. --Spottedwing 22:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC

Hi, and welcome :) The programme I recommend for new artists who don't have a good programme already downloaded is www.pixlr.com. You can also invest in Photoshop or download Gimp free. You need to make the black slightly paler (a kind of dark grey) so it is seperate from the lineart. Thne make the white a very very pale grey so shading can be added. Take the burn tool (or a slightly darker colour) to add shading on the top of the head, back, tail, belly, chest and legs. Then blend it all in and go from there. I really would advise you to stay clear of pant (no matter how good you are at using it.) <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

His black feet look like socks, you need to blend them.--Yai-Girl 01:12, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Brightflower (Q) - For Approval


My first queen (I think...) Constructments? <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:36, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

This is amazing Sandy i think she needs a small black patch on her chest.User:Stonestar 13:45, July 19 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Stonestar. I reuploaded her with an extra patch. Anything else? <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

She looks PERFECT i think she's ready for approval!--StonestarStonestar 13:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe put one more black patch on her left frint leg.Stonestar 17:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

(M) - Could you put on one more small balck patch on her belly, near the other ones (but not in the center of them.) It looks sort of ab-normal right now with them all grouped around in a circle like that. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, maybe lighten the shading a little; there's a big differenece between it and the regular black color. -- Bramble My Realm 21:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. The second image is the next level down of shading I can get. If it's too light then there isn't any in between. Sorry Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:54, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfur - For Approval
Another black cat. xD He seems cool, so I did him. Comments?--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 23:16, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

The ear looks...... strange. Try making it more solid, less blending. Only blend the edges of the ear pink, not the whole thing. Also, make the ear pink a hot pink color, sort of like Jumpfoots' I just think it looks tons better hot pink. Hawkfire My Den 00:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Try using a color similar to Blackclaw's for the ear pink. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 00:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Better?--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 16:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Much better, but I can hardly see the shading.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 18:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 19:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Still needs more shading if you ask me. It needs to be thicker. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm working on it now.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 16:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Better?--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 21:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks- Declined


I was messing around in the warriors wiki when I found many declined images so I put the Kittypet blanks for approval. Comments?--Yai-Girl 17:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Yai, these are Darkhallows' images. You need her permission to edit them, and also, o, Sandiwolf was working on them; they were just taken down due to black of work. -- Bramble My Realm 21:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Oops sorry.--Yai-Girl 15:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

These had best be declined then until Darkhallows gives her permission to use the old blanks and until you sort it out with Sandiwolf. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Yai-girl can use them. I have attempted to revamp them to no avail. Maybe she can.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 17:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Blackstar (Le) for Approval

 * I finally got around to be able to post him. Here's Blackstar. I think the problem I see may be my own shading. Comments?-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 19:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I think his shading could be a tad bit thicker; also lighten his paws cause I can't see the lineart. I like your highlights on the black paws though. -- Bramble My Realm 21:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and make his eyes amber, orange, they are yellow. Besides that he looks great! :) Hawkfire My Den 01:27, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Where does it say he's long-haired? Boltstar 17:27, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I've been wondering the same thing as Boltstar. I don't remember it ever saying he's long furred, fluffy, or anything of the sort. The eyes are fine, as they never say what color they are. Everything else has already been addressed by Bramble.-- Quiet !.. 18:04, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Does it actually say anywhere in the books that his eyes are amber/yellow? If not then I think you should change them to blue as that is the colour depicted in his image on the cover of Codes of the Clans. As far as I can remember this is the only kind of indication we have towards his eye colouring... Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is no one looking at the Blackstar (W) up for approval? No one said anything about that being long haired. Plus the same thing happen with my Bluestar image..no one said anything about the approved Bluefur image being longhaired, but as soon as I did the leader, it pops up out of nowhere....Sorry its just really annoying me. His picture in The Cats of the Clan show him having amber eyes and that came out before Code of the Clans. Just want everything cleared up before I upload my image cause I don't want to have to do multiples like I had to do with Bluestar too with one long haired and one short haired.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 20:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Leave his eye colour amber then. Sorry. As for his fur, I don't see a problem with him being longhaired. It doesn't say eitherway. As long as it's consistent in his images. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry Shimmer, I didn't notice. I know how you feel.(Just not with Character art images.) I think it looks pretty good, I always imagined his eyes to be amber too. Boltstar 13:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Updated-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 19:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail; I can barely see it. But other than that, I like this image a lot. Sparrowsong 02:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

All I can see is there is some smuged lineart above the tail. Other then that I think he's very handsome. --Spottedwing 02:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Dawnstar - For Approval


Well, I can finally post here, and I decided to use the fancy leader template for my first character art! I wasn't sure if I should blend the ear in or not, just because to me it looks okay without it on her. Feel free to criticize away! -- Quiet ! 08:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

-gasps-. That is just... amazing. love the texture. It's like I could reach out and touch it. The only thing that I see is just maybe you the soft brush and run it along the bottom of her ear so it's looks more natural. =)--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 17:45, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

This is beautiful! Is this your first image Quiet? I can't see any faults other than mentioned already. Nice work! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, guys. I'll go fix the ear now. (: Edit: Blended the ear. Anything else? -- Quiet !.. 19:16, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Are you kidding me? There can't be anything else wrong with it because it is FABULOUS!!!!!!! I have never seen an image like this, let alone a first! I think it's ready for approval.Minnowclaw 20:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

This is your first image? *Hyperventilates* You.are.amazing. Quietstep, this is BEAUTIFUL! Officially the best-looking image I've ever seen. I can't see anything wrong with it, except the shading could be just a little darker. Other than that, wow...I wish my images were half this great. Sparrowsong 21:21, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

She's gorgeous! I can't believe this is your first image on the PCA! Amzing! Hawkfire My Den 21:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. The most beautiful cat ever! --Spottedwing 03:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

lol. I think everyone's had a chance to comment now! I don't think her shading should be darker though Sparrowsong as she is a pale cream cat... Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Brightheart (A) - For Approval
All her other images have either been done or are being done so I thought I'd complete the set! Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Very nice, Sandy. I just think she should have a ginger patch around her eye, besides that, add a little more shading. :) Hawkfire My Den 14:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Could you make her patches a darker shade of giner? They seem light compared to the other Brightheart poses. Other than that she looks great! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 15:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Owlstar- For Approval
Well, here's my first image; hope it's okay. Constructments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 15:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Make the eyes amber, they are yellow.And blend the ear pink, besides that iy looks greats! Hawkfire My Den 16:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Hawkfire! The changes haven't been showing up for me, yet, but, I darkened the eye, and tried blending the ear. How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 16:40, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Not bad at all for a first iamge! But you need to add more shading and make the shading you already have darker. (If your using Pixlr.com or Photoshop, use the burn tool.) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 17:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, M&S! I used the Burn Tool on all my shaded areas, then blended it into the pelt. But, I'm not sure where I could add extra shading. I was thinking the back? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 18:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I can't see any shading whatsoever. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 18:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Darkened the shading. Is this better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

No. There's only shading on the tail and leg. Look at the other leader pics to see where you still need shading. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 19:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I've been looking off the Sunstar picture for reference. I have shading under the chin, on the forelegs, and the places you mentioned, GB. Do you want me to darken it again? And, would one of the places that need shading be the back? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Sunstar's shading is pretty advanced. Try looking at Lionstar right below this entry for your shading and highlights. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:34, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I extended the shading up Owlstar's back. Is there anywhere else he needs it? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Better. Try adding some more shading on the right side of his face and the left side of his chest. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Like this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Yup! Just blur all of the shading in as much as you can and he'll look great!Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 22:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Tried blurring the shading. Anything else? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Lionstar - for approval


Here's my 1st leader. Does any one know how to do good highlights like Minnowclaw and Quiet have done on their images? Sand wich  989  19:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow Sandwich, this looks great. Maybe blend the shading and ear pink a little more, and are his eyes really light blue? And no, I do not know how to add highlights like that. Ask them yourself! :) Hawkfire My Den 22:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Hawkfire on blending the shading. It took a while for me to find out what you meant by highlights, but I don't use them. I have no clue what quiet does, but if you mean what I did with Thunderstar, I go to www.pixlr.com and use the dodged tool for shading and highlights. Hope I helped!Minnowclaw 22:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw