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Journey to Find Sparrow
So this is in Tallstar's Revenge and it's a really big event in the book. He meets Jake and y'know, just a lot of other stuff. It has a pretty good chunk of the book, but I can't prove it (here on the wiki) cause the article isn't done? and it came out in 2013

Are we making articles of all the journeys now? Yeah, it's a huge part of Tallstar's Revenge, and I think part of the reason it's not done is because 2013 was an iffy time for the wiki... but seriously? I say it's important enough. Would that cover when he left WindClan, met Jake, and then traveled to find Sparrow and the events that transpired after they joined the group? Or just until he found him?

Anyone's allowed to contribute to this page right Jaysnow (talk) 23:46, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

Yup, poor Maple has so many discussions to archive. It's a buzzin' I'd like to think it starts when he leaves WindClan, and ends when he returns. And yeah, anyone can contribute but I assume someone will do the bulk of the work, then get credit for the nomination. Idk.

Yes we're pretty much doing all of the major journeys. 03:31, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

I think this is necessary since the journey is a major plot point in the book.

Are we going to create this page? I'm sorry TR wasn't completed even though it came out in 2013. I was planning on starting it and finishing it cause it looked like no one else was going to, but other articles got in my way and I was just ugh. I'll try to though? 23:51, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

I feel like it's important enough to make a page since it's a chunk of TR. I guess everyone mostly agrees, right? 15:05, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. 01:18, May 22, 2016 (UTC)

Okay so what's the vederict? Do most of us agree with creating a page? 14:01, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

It looks like everybody wants a page to be made, but no one has ideas for the sections. How about we just create the page, and then someone who wants to can write it and make the sections? 17:28 Sat Jun 4

The Long Dry
Hey, do you guys hate me yet? Okay, so I was reading Bramblestar's Storm and Molewhisker mentions how the lake dried up in "The Long Dry", and Blossomfall tells him that Dovewing and Lionblaze went from ThunderClan, and several other cats went to fight the beavers and bring the lake back. So technically Molewhisker mentioned that as a significant event, because if not, he wouldn't have called it by "The Long Dry". Now, I know we have "Journey to the Beaver Dam", but the Long Dry is kinda different, isn't it? I'm not sure - maybe we could rename that, or just add the fact that it's also known as The Long Dry. 03:31, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

If it's called The Long Dry, then that's probably what the page name should be. However, "Journey to the Beaver Dam" could serve as a redirect for those who haven't read Bramblestar's Storm yet.

Yup, totally needs an article

Completely agreeing with Cloudy. The one thing is, I think the article on the journey isn't really focused as much on the lack of water as the journey itself; maybe there could be a bit more detail on how little water there was. 22:31 Wed Apr 6

True ... but somehow I don't think The Long Dry and The Journey To The Beaver Dam should be the same page because they both have different names ... Not sure right now. 00:50, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

Was it ever actually called, 'Journey to the Beaver Dam'? I think it probably would have been referred to as just 'the journey' etc. without caps, making it not a title. Most of the events articles weren't actually named in the books either, and I think this journey was one of them? Idk I might be wrong though 02:12 Thu Apr 7

I've just done a word-search, and it is not mentioned as 'Journey to the Beaver Dam' in any of the OoTS books, BS, or TAQ.

Actually, I'm just realizing, but if Journey to the Beaver Dam will be renamed 'The Long Dry' w/ a redirect, then Journey to the Lake Territories should be renamed to 'The Great Journey' (it's already a redirect to journey to the lake, but I'm saying it should be the other way around). Similarly I think for the Battle Against the Dark Forest- I don't think it was ever called that, but I do know it was called The Great Battle (which redirects to to that page) 20:12 Sun Apr 10

Yep, that sounds good. Redirects are the best when it comes to different titles. 03:03, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

Then should I make the redirects? 15:14 Sat Apr 16

Go right ahead. 16:28, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

I renamed the other two, but it won't let me rename 'Journey to the Lake Territories' as 'the Great Journey' because 'the Great Journey' already exists as a redirect to 'Journey to the Lake Territories', and it says to ask an admin to help with the move. 16:41 Sat Apr 16

Wait, what are you trying to do? I can help you but I'm a tad confused on what you're saying. 17:01, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

I can't rename 'Journey to the Lake Territories' as 'the Great Journey' because the page 'the Great Journey' already exists as a redirect. 18:50 Sat Apr 23

Renamed. 19:02, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Okay thanks. While we're here, guess what I saw out while rereading Long Shadows the other day? Hollyleaf said to Ashfur, "And it's not betrayal when you weaken ThunderClan in front of the other Clans, so soon after the Great Battle?" So the cats seem to be calling every battle 'the Great Battle' :p But I do think that 'Battle for ThunderClan' should be renamed to 'The Great Battle (Po3)' since it was never called 'battle for thunderclan' in the books. 20:11 Sat Apr 23

Well, I always thought of that battle as the Eclipse Battle but I know it was never called that lol. Either title would work imo, but I never considered it a 'Great' battle before

Hmm ... Is there any other times it's mentioned as The Great Battle? 23:49, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so. But I still think it should be renamed to 'The Great Battle (Po3)', because it was actually called that before, even if only once. 01:30 Sat Apr 30

Well, if you wanna rename it that then it should also be mentioned that The First Battle was called the 'great battle' by Wind Runner in MFV so...

That's actually why it's named The Great Battle (DotC). As a matter of fact, it was called 'the Great Battle' multiple times, and idk if it even ever was called 'the First Battle'. 01:39 Sat Apr 30

Meep. Don't listen to me I'm tired, and thought it was named The First Battle after the book.

So is the page going to be renamed? 01:22 Thu May 5

I'm going to prod this. 01:24 Sat May 14

After reading everyone's points, I think the page should be renamed. Makes sense since there are other pages of Great Battles that occur in different books. -- 05:10, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

Any other comments? 15:23 Sat May 28

But the long dry is the drought, not the journey to the beaver dam. But I do agree with renaming the great battle. 14:00, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

High-Rock
I'm not part of the project but should there be an article on this?

No, there shouldn't. It's really minor and only exists for half the series - it's not as major as the Rockpile, for example. 21:52, May 4, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, probably not.

Refresh my memory, is this the rock in Thunderclan where the leader calls clan announcements from? Because if it is, although I don't think it should get its own article, I still think it should get a section in both Thunderclan's Lake Territory section and the lake territories' thunderClan section. Its definitely not important to get an article, but it should be mentioned in the ThunderClan page. 01:32 Thu May 5

It's not in the lake - it's back in the forest territories, the Highrock, but yes t's where the announcements were. 01:34, May 5, 2016 (UTC)

Oh right. Actually I just saw that the whole camp itself is in ThunderClan's 'territory' section (so I don't think the highrock would also deserve a separate section), and in the ThunderClan camp, the Highrock is listed. So I changed my mind and now think it shouldn't get a page or a section. 01:37 Thu May 5

Eek. To clarify, that's not what I meant-(though I should have been more clear). I meant all clan meeting rocks in general.

No, I still don't think so because not everyone has a rock, and I don't really think it's needed, but as Maple said we can just include it in the Forest / Lake territories articles. 02:40, May 5, 2016 (UTC)

Well, yeah let's put it in the territories article or even Clan Meeting since they could have sections there cause the article's so tiny.

Actually, I like your idea Spooky. The Clan Meeting page is really short so it can fit some more information in it without getting too cluttered, and I think it would be nice to have all the known meeting places listed in a seperate section. 01:27 Fri May 6

Sounds like a good idea, but I also support it in being apart of the camp page as well, or the territories article. I'm not sure if it's already on the camp article, though. 01:14, May 22, 2016 (UTC)

Ok so I just looked at the camp page, and in the main clearing section, there is a small sentence or two about the vantage point (which is like the highrock, highledge, etc.) So we could add more to that section, or do as Spooky suggested and add it to the Clan Meeting article. I personally like the idea of putting it on the Clan Meeting article better. <span style="">15:23 Sat May 28

So should we add each meeting place to the Clan meeting article? 14:34, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

Well there still hasn't been many people who really commented, but I think the majority of those who did do agree to that. I don't really think that there will be any more comments though even if we wait another week so I guess they should be added. We still need to come up with a format or something though. <span style="">15:56 Sun Jun 5

Battle Against the Badgers (BS)
So I just made the page for the battle against the badgers in Twilight, but as Cloudy brought up, there was another battle against the badgers in Bramblestar's Storm, where Dustpelt died and Lilyheart was made a warrior. I think it should have a page made also, thoughts? <span style="">17:39 Mon May 23

It's just as important as the one in Twilight, and had quite a fair bit of build-up. As I said before, while it may have been caused by what happened with the Great Storm, it wasn't just some minor "one badger attack"; there were quite a few, and had it not been for that, the events of the end of the book could have played out quite differently.

Yeah, we should make a page for it.^^

I actually disagree. I don't think it's that important to need a page, I hardly even noticed any build up and I reread BS twice. It's not as important as Cinderpelt's, so I disagree with this. 19:25, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

Comments? <span style="">17:30 Sat Jun 4

I'd say it's nowhere near as important as the one in Twilight, but that's just me. I think this could be a page if we include some of the build-up with Bramble and Tawny, cause the battle itself wasn't all that big

I still disagree - I don't think it really needs a page. The flood was much, much bigger than the badger battle and I really don't think we need the article as long as it's on character pages because that means we'd need an article for every attack that has a build up ... like the kittypet attack and such. 17:38, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

Dreams
I am really tired and I was thinking about this during biology so please don't laugh at me or something. Anyways I was just wondering if "dreams" should have an article. Dreams are very vital in the Warriors world, as you all know. Dark Forest training, prophecies, meetings from StarClan cats, meetings from Dark Forest cats, communications with other cats (like Ashfur and Jayfeather), and stuff like that. There are just so many dreams that I think we can fit in an article, the important ones at least. However I know this may sound like a foolish idea to some so I won't really be offended if you laugh it down. 01:48, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Also how Jayfeather's powers are focused on dreams and Rock laughs at him and goes "ayy lmao you ain't the only cat w/o controlling over dreams my homie" 00:23, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

It's not a foolish idea. I'm impressed you could think of an idea this good while you were half asleep. I agree with this. Jaysnow (talk) 00:24, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, the important ones should be documented on a page.

Yeah I don't think it's a foolish idea, as a matter of fact it does seem like something that really does need a page. <span style="">15:23 Sat May 28