Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Talltail- For approval


Look everyone! My first real charcat!!! Let me know if it has issues, I shaded him and everything!! I want this charcat to be approved. Hawkfire Rock and roll all nite! 15:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, first of all, I changed the section to Talltail, since that was his warrior name, and as we'll be seeing him in Bluestar's Prophecy as a warrior it will work. Now, the black patches on him need to a color-slightly-lighter-than-black, because then it just goes with the lineart. Lighten the black, and then we'll go from there. Also, if you're still using Paint, I would highly recommend getting GIMP or using pixlr. -- Bramble My Realm 17:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Bramble's right. For some idea of what an approved black and white cat should look like take a look at Crowfrost, smallkit or toadkit (approved images). That's the standard we need before approval  Sandy Talk! 15:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

His eye looks like he's sinister; perhaps this could be changed?--Yai-Girl 16:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

He looks like he popped right out of Pokemon. Give him less of an angry-japanese look. G B 57 16:51, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, Okay. I redid him. Does he look any better? Hawkfire My Den 17:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Why are his feet black?--Yai-Girl 17:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

He is better, but I would suggest a black patch on his foreleg coming up to his chest, and lighten the black even more. You also need to blur the transition between black and white on all the places. Some more shading is needed, too. Keep it up, and he'll be approved in no time. And Yai, I'm presuming his paws are black cause he's a black and white cat. -- Bramble My Realm 17:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I smudged him, added more shading, and added that patch Bramble wanted. Comments? Hawkfire My Den 18:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

What's with all the tiny black dots? And try blurring instead if smudging. Sand wich  989  19:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Anything else? :) And I have no idea how those black dots get there sandwich, I set it to png but they wont go away! Hawkfire My Den 19:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the black dots anymore. I think you just add shading and blend it in and it will look good. Sand wich  989  22:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I did blend, and I did add shading. I just brightened the shading to make it a silvery color. Anything else? Hawkfire My Den 13:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

The black needs to be a lot lighter, and I think in places it goes outside the lineart. -- Bramble My Realm 19:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anyn shading. But I would do is make the blur tool brush big enough so half of it can be on the black and half of it can be on the white and just run it until the black and white stops. Do that where there is all black and white next together. Sand wich  989  19:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? Hawkfire My Den 20:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Make the black slightly lighter than what you have now so you can see the lineart. And it still needs more shading and the patches need blending. Your doing great. =)--Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 20:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I found the perfect shade of black! I added more shading, and I added more blending, is it better? Hawkfire My Den 14:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

This is the best yet, and it is a great shade of black. The shading is too pronounced, though, it needs to be more blurred and less standoutish. -- Bramble My Realm 14:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the shading Hawkfire My Den 12:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Better, yes, but put a little bit of the normal black color between the shading and the white on that patch in the middle of his back. His ear pink also needs to be blended more into the pelt. -- Bramble My Realm 19:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? Reuploaded. Hawkfire My Den 19:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

The patches looks smudge inches into the pelt in some places and not blended at all. And I suggest making it a shade darker than pure white.--Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 20:20, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Like this? Hawkfire My Den 12:57, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes! Add some more shading on the chest and possible the muzzle and I think he'll be ready. Perhaps blend the ear pink a little too.  Sandy Talk! 13:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Will this work? Hawkfire My Den 02:28, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

You don't think that you could possibly blend in the shading more? The line between non-shading and shading is still rather distinctive. -- Dawnfeather talk! 13:37, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * There also looks like a smudge spot near the base of his tail, but on his back.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 17:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

This looks great, Hawkfire. I'd suggest you lighten the shading, though. And the black is too dark. I would use the same black as Crowfeather or maybe Nightcloud. Sparrowsong 21:20, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hawkfire My Den 21:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The patches need blended more. Look at Patchfoot, Smallkit, and other patched cats for reference. --Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 23:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? Hawkfire My Den 16:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments? Hawkfire My Den 21:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Again, the ear is the problem here. You need to sort it in the same way as you need to sort Jumpfoot's Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Hawkfire, this looks really good! But the ear pink needs to be lighter and more triangular. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:IceBlue; background:violet; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Sparrowsong ( talk! ) 17:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

darken shading. -- MU MB LE 785  23:43, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Duskfur (W)- For Approval


Okay, I wanted to try a tabby, so I did Duskfur of Riverclan. I was so mad because I finished it, saved it wrong, and then was unable to reopen and resave it, so I had to redo the entire picture. So much trouble for a cat. -.- Improvement tips? Silver tree  ♥  21:38, 10 July, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby marks look like they were made with water colors, you can see through them and they looked liquidy. There also needs to be some more of them, slightly smaller and more thin. -- Bramble My Realm 17:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated. I re-did all the stripes. Are they opaque enough? Silver tree  ♥  16:57, 11 July, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, much better. You just need to add a stripe on her haunch near the tail, where that gap is, and <S>also add a marking by her eye. She looks awesome now. -- Bramble My Realm 21:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Never mind the eye comment. -- Bramble My Realm 21:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated Added the tabby mark. Anything else? Silver tree  ♥  18:11, 11 July, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the tabby markings more and make them more subtle.MinnowclawMinnowclaw

The ear looks shrunk. Little more ear pink, please. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated' Fixed the ear and blended the tabby marks.

The markins are very dark - try lightening them a little and then blending them slightly more so they look more natural. Also, the ear pink is too fluro and needs to be more triangle shaped (make sure you blend though). [ps. please sign with four ~s] <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Your need to BLEND a lot more on the tabby marking and shading.Minnowclaw 23:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I really hate to do this but this hasn't been worked on for a while either, almost a whole week I believe since Silvertree's last posted wasn't stamped I can't really tell. I give it a 24 hour notice before it shall be declined for good.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 18:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated So sorry, I forgot to edit when I was busy with something else for another website. I blended the marks some more. Silver tree  ♥  21:28, 20 July, 2009 (UTC)

Your image isn't showing up. Please upload the right image, Silvertree :) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, there we go. I had forgotten to upload it (like a smart person.) Silver  tree  ♥  18:59, 22 July, 2009 (UTC)

The markings nede to be slightly lighter as they stand out a lot. Also, make the ear pink more triangular, lighter and bkend it in. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Bland markings. Highlight. -- MU MB LE 785  23:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, the ear pink needs to be bigger. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 01:58, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with GB, but other then that I think she's georgus. --Spottedwing 13:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated okay, I made them more blended in I had trouble getting satisfied with the eahink I got it. Next? Silver tree  ♥  20:21, 26 July, 2009 (UTC)

The ear still seems a bit... round. Add some more color to it then blend. --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 15:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Tallstar(Le)- For approval
Comments?--Yai-Girl 14:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Very good. =) Maybe tone the ear pink a shade lighter, blend the black patches, and add shading.--<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 15:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Good, just do all the things above, and make the eye amber (orange) because it's yellow and he has amber eyes. Hawkfire My Den 21:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

He looks more really dark brown then he does black. That may just be my computer though.--: LST DragonClan's Camp 00:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

He looks good, but he has no shading. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 03:35, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I added shading, made the ear pink lighter, made the eyes amber, and blurred the black. Anything else?--Yai-Girl 15:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl


 * I can only see shading on the back and tail. He could use some on his hind legs.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 15:50, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit, I can barley see it. Also, add some shading on the hid leg.Minnowclaw 17:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Better?--Yai-Girl 04:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

(M) - The tendril on the nose looks strange. Try widening it at the bottem and then gradually thinning it out. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Moss, and I also think the shading needs to be blurred a bit. Also add a white pixel by the pupils, for a highlight. -- Bramble My Realm 20:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I forgot how to blend shading again, sorry.--Yai-Girl 04:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I looked at the approved leaders. How does he look?--Yai-Girl 05:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

To blend shading use the smudge or blur tool and run it across it. Use the dodge tool for shading, but it wont work on white images so make his pelt color just a shade darker than pure white.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 17:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I changed him, how does he look?--Yai-Girl 15:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

dark... his white patches are grey now... Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd have to agree with Sandy. Overall he's darker. I'd suggest going over it with the dodge tool in some places for brighter highlights to bring it up to near white and possibly making his eyes lighter as well? -- Quiet ! 08:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Better?--Yai-Girl 15:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

He still needs to be a bit lighter. Just darker than pure white. Also, blend the shading into the pelt. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:18, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I din´t respond right away I'm on a trip to Spain and I don't want people geting angry becouse I saved lots of chages. So, please don´t delete Tallstar or the Kittypet Blanks.--Yai-Girl 21:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I made the pelt a lighter color.--Yai-Girl 15:17, 25 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

The transition between the eyes is sort of an odd shape to me... Could you make it rounder? Other than that, I love him! -- MU MB LE 785  22:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Other than that, it's very good. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Jane Volturi ( talk! ) 02:42, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I agree with Sparrow. Also, there are a few white pixles on the black on his left shoulder that you should get rid of. ₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;"> MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   20:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The tendril up his nose is a direct rectangle. Make it more like a natural triangle, with blurring. Also, you need to work on your kittypet blanks when you have time. -- Bramble My Realm 23:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Brightheart(Ki) - For Approval
I wanted to have a go at a kit. Can anyone tell me how to put shading on a white kit? --Spottedwing 18:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

1.) Add shading by taking the brush tool in pixlr.com, choose the 5 brush and change the exposer to 50%. Put the brush when the shding should go and blend.

2.) The patches look to circleish and ovalish. Make them sort of lumpy.

3.) Blend all the patches and ear pink

Do this and it should be good.Minnowclaw 19:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * Like Minnowclaw said, fix the patches. No cat has such even markings like this.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 21:14, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Minnowclaw and Shimmer. To put shading on a white cat you need to make sure the cat isn't pure white. Make her slightly greyish so the shading will show up. <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 07:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I finally got her reuploaded. My computer is being slow again. I added shading and redid the patches. What do you guys think? --Spottedwing 21:53, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Try to position the patches like on the queen and warrior versions of her. I thinkIt's nice that you're using a different shade then those, as then they're all different and as ginger changes in the lighting... Also, the eyes are very dark green. Try lightening them like on the warrior and queen versions. Finally, my computer's coming back tommorrow! I can put up Oakheart, Jayfeather, and Crookedstar! --<span style="font:12px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:Silver 2px solid;background-color:#6699FF;padding:04px;"> Mal Sorrel-Wolf 12:26, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

This is very good but the ginger splotches need to be more lumpy the one on her head is good though. User:Stonestar 13:47, July 19 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the blotches more lumpy and I added another blotch between her legs. I also made her eyes lighter. --Spottedwing 17:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

She needs more shading on the neck, head and left side of her body. Blend the edges of the patches slightly and also the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:21, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The shading is really bothering me. Her right forepaw has the regular white while the rest of her is darker and has more shading. Fix this by adding some of the regular white in her. Also blend the patches like Sandy said.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 18:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry it took so long. It's fair week and I'm so busy with my animals, that I'm barly at home. I made her white, went over the shading, and tried blending in the blotches. --Spottedwing 02:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

It's a good start. Blend the shading just a bit more, though, and add some on the chin. Sparrowsong 03:16, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry to be OT, but does anyone know why this page is locked? I don't see why it needs to be.

Yes, she's getting there! Just thicken the shading slightly anf add more under the chin, then blend it all in. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I added shading on her neck. --Spottedwing 02:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Please comment --Spottedwing 13:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - The spot on her head is still rather round. Also, the two spots on the chest are bothering me; make them more lumpy. ₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;"> MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   17:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The spots look like they've been stuck on... Try making them less regular - more like patches than spots. Also, add shading on her head and thicken all the shading before blending in thoroughly. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:44, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry it took so long. I redid the blotches. --Spottedwing 18:29, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I left the blotch on her head round, because thats how it is on the Queen virsion. --Spottedwing 17:22, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Brightflower (Q) - For Approval


My first queen (I think...) Constructments? <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:36, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

This is amazing Sandy i think she needs a small black patch on her chest.User:Stonestar 13:45, July 19 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Stonestar. I reuploaded her with an extra patch. Anything else? <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

She looks PERFECT i think she's ready for approval!--StonestarStonestar 13:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe put one more black patch on her left frint leg.Stonestar 17:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

(M) - Could you put on one more small balck patch on her belly, near the other ones (but not in the center of them.) It looks sort of ab-normal right now with them all grouped around in a circle like that. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, maybe lighten the shading a little; there's a big differenece between it and the regular black color. -- Bramble My Realm 21:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. The second image is the next level down of shading I can get. If it's too light then there isn't any in between. Sorry Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:54, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I like the second shading job better, personally. It just needs to be blurred on the edges. The other shading just seems like there was black paint on her gray pelt. -- Bramble My Realm 15:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I blurred it in and made the background transparent. Anything else? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe put a small black patch on her left front leg.Stonestar 20:15, 23 July 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Stonestar! I'm so sorry you had to say that twice. I didn't see it the first time. :( Here, better? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:57, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Its ok if i was a senior warrior i would approve it ut i cant.:( Stonestar 16:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

I like this. The patch on the head is a bit unnatural, though. Sparrowsong 17:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Stonestar. Sparrowsong: I don't really get what you mean by unnatural so I changed the shape a bit. I can't move it completely else I'd have to start the whole image again as for some reason it won't let me get rid of it completely. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:48, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

It looks great now. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:pink; background:IceBlue; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Sparrowsong ( talk! ) 17:36, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I corrected the file upload so the right file shows here. Anything else? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:16, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

She looks great. Approval after comments? ;) -- Bramble My Realm 23:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfur - For Approval
Another black cat. xD He seems cool, so I did him. Comments?--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 23:16, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

The ear looks...... strange. Try making it more solid, less blending. Only blend the edges of the ear pink, not the whole thing. Also, make the ear pink a hot pink color, sort of like Jumpfoots' I just think it looks tons better hot pink. Hawkfire My Den 00:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Try using a color similar to Blackclaw's for the ear pink. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 00:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Better?--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 16:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Much better, but I can hardly see the shading.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 18:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 19:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Still needs more shading if you ask me. It needs to be thicker. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm working on it now.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 16:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Better?--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 21:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Anything else? I'm bored. xD--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 16:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

That bit of shading under the ear looks unnatural. I'd take it away altogether. That's about all I can see. He looks great. -- Bramble My Realm 21:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I took it out.=)--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 22:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

darken shading.-- MU MB LE 785  23:50, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Done.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Anything else?--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 20:30, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I think he's good. Does anyone else have anything? -- Bramble My Realm 20:56, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

The shading just doesn't look neat. It sits up in places, and is quite uneven and a bit blotchy. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 01:18, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Better?--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 14:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For Approval


I was messing around in the warriors wiki when I found many declined images so I put the Kittypet blanks for approval. Comments?--Yai-Girl 17:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Yai, these are Darkhallows' images. You need her permission to edit them, and also, o, Sandiwolf was working on them; they were just taken down due to black of work. -- Bramble My Realm 21:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Oops sorry.--Yai-Girl 15:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

These had best be declined then until Darkhallows gives her permission to use the old blanks and until you sort it out with Sandiwolf. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Yai-girl can use them. I have attempted to revamp them to no avail. Maybe she can.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 17:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Alright then, back up for approval. Sandiwolf's were declined, and if she wants them back up, she and Yai can talk it out. There is a chances that one set can be used as rogues and the other as kittypets. (will add criticism when I have time) -- Bramble My Realm 16:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Kittypets are well-groomed. The fur on the lond-hairs are sticking out everywhere. I thought you weren't supposed to put cats in drying machines? -- MU MB LE 785  23:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Mumble, long-hairs are fluffy, know matter how "well-groomed" they are. Maybe make the hair a tad bit closer to the pelt, though. I love the collars. :)--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Now, the lineart needs to be thicker, so as it goes with the other images. Instead of the tail being up, it would be better if it was curled around the paws, I think, and the ears need to be shrunk. The paws look slightly awkward too. I found this pic: click You could probably use it for reference. -- Bramble My Realm 20:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with everything Bramble. That pic made me laugh though. I would advise you not to make them quite that fat Yai! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, hey, they are kittypets. lol but yeah, don't make them that fat Yai. -- Bramble My Realm 23:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Owlstar- For Approval
Well, here's my first image; hope it's okay. Constructments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 15:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Make the eyes amber, they are yellow.And blend the ear pink, besides that iy looks greats! Hawkfire My Den 16:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Hawkfire! The changes haven't been showing up for me, yet, but, I darkened the eye, and tried blending the ear. How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 16:40, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Not bad at all for a first iamge! But you need to add more shading and make the shading you already have darker. (If your using Pixlr.com or Photoshop, use the burn tool.) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 17:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, M&S! I used the Burn Tool on all my shaded areas, then blended it into the pelt. But, I'm not sure where I could add extra shading. I was thinking the back? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 18:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I can't see any shading whatsoever. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 18:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Darkened the shading. Is this better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

No. There's only shading on the tail and leg. Look at the other leader pics to see where you still need shading. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 19:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I've been looking off the Sunstar picture for reference. I have shading under the chin, on the forelegs, and the places you mentioned, GB. Do you want me to darken it again? And, would one of the places that need shading be the back? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Sunstar's shading is pretty advanced. Try looking at Lionstar right below this entry for your shading and highlights. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:34, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I extended the shading up Owlstar's back. Is there anywhere else he needs it? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Better. Try adding some more shading on the right side of his face and the left side of his chest. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Like this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Yup! Just blur all of the shading in as much as you can and he'll look great!Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 22:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Tried blurring the shading. Anything else? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice first image. You need to add thicker shading on the back, legs and tail and add some on the head too. Blend it all in and then blend the ear pink too as it is quite stand-out-ish. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

As well as blending the ear pink also make it darker. That light of a pink on a gray cat's ear looks really strange, esp. if you picture it in the real world. Make it a lot darker. But I like him otherwise. -- Bramble My Realm 15:50, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I darkened the ear pink, and thickened the shading. But, it looks a little lumpy to me.... -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 17:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I don't think it looks lumpy at all. Could you try to make the ear pink and nose color more like Cloudstar's? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 22:04, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I modeled the ear, and nose, off Cloudstar. Is this better? Or, does it need to be darker? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:18, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Personally I'd make a it a bit darker as Owlstar has a darker pelt colour than Cloudstar. Also, blend the shading on the flank more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:01, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I tried to model the ear pink off some of the approved black cats, and I blended the shading a bit more. Is this better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 14:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Blend the front and hind leg shading and add a tad more shading on the head and left side.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 16:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Is this a little better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 18:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

He looks great, except I think he needs a bit more shading on his hindleg, front leg, and back. And maybe some on top of the head. That's all I see. -- Bramble My Realm 21:06, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for taking so long to respond; it's been a busy week for me. =) Anyway, I tried adding more shading. Is this better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 14:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

That's good, but you now need to blend the shading in at the edges. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not all that good at this shading stuff. =) But, anyway, I tried to blend it in a bit more. How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 18:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading just a bit more. Basically just run the blur tool down it about three times. We'll tell you if it's too much. Be careful not to hit the lineart though. -- Bramble My Realm 23:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Lionstar - for approval


Here's my 1st leader. Does any one know how to do good highlights like Minnowclaw and Quiet have done on their images? Sand wich  989  19:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow Sandwich, this looks great. Maybe blend the shading and ear pink a little more, and are his eyes really light blue? And no, I do not know how to add highlights like that. Ask them yourself! :) Hawkfire My Den 22:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Hawkfire on blending the shading. It took a while for me to find out what you meant by highlights, but I don't use them. I have no clue what quiet does, but if you mean what I did with Thunderstar, I go to www.pixlr.com and use the dodged tool for shading and highlights. Hope I helped!Minnowclaw 22:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Make the eyes amber as it is a generic colour unless you can find a reference for blue eyes. Take the shading away from the top edge of the tail and add some on the neck and left side of his face. Then blend all the shading more. Highlights aren't strictly necessary but if you do want to add them then use the dodge tool. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:32, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Made eyes amber, fixed tail, and fixed shading. Sand wich  989  19:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I think what Snady meant is to still have the shading along the bottem of the tail, just not on the top. Also, there are two white dots toward the outside of the eyes that aren't highlights that need to be taken out. ₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;"> MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   01:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I made you a diagram for shading. Where I circled in blue, I think you should put some shading. Other that that, This is a REALLY good image! Diagram: -- MU MB LE 785  20:38, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed everything. Sand wich  989  21:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Sandwich...you should have kept the shading you had and added in the shading spots mumble suggested.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 22:05, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I added it now. Sand wich  989  07:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

It's in the right places now, but you need to blend it in at the edges... Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, did that. Sand  wich  989  23:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

The shading on his right cheek is too thick. Blur it a lot or take some away. Or both. -- Bramble My Realm 23:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Pad - For Approval
You've been waiting for him, so here he is. Criticism is welcome. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 18:15, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I think he looks good. Cute. -- Bramble My Realm 19:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Could you make the ear pink more triangular, darken the shading and add shading under the chin? Other then that he looks great! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, M&S, if you looked at just about every pair of ears on our kit pics, you'd see that they're not triangular. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 22:22, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Good point. Never mind. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 23:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

But, M&S has a point on the shading under the chin. You would need to make it darker.Minnowclaw 10:59, 24 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

He looks super cute, but maybe tone down the ear pink a shade because it looks a very unnatural bright color.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 16:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 22:17, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Cutie, but darken the shading just a tad.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 00:19, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a little more. Also, the shading needs to be slightly darker. Good job, GB. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Jane Volturi ( talk! ) 20:30, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

He's very cute! The only thing would be if you could darken his eyes just a little bit. He looks great!!!-- MU MB LE 785  20:40, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

How's that? Also, Mumble, I want to keep the eyes bright, to make him look all cute and innocent. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 00:42, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Any comments before 24-hour approval?-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 15:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Could you curve the neck shading downward just a smidge? It's almost a straight line right now. ₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;"> MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   17:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

tadpole- for approval
ok, since scourge didn't work out, i made an easier one:tadpole. how did i do? rainpelt

add/darken shading... -- MU MB LE 785  23:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Add a tad bit of shading under the chin, head, sides, and lightly on the pars. Blend the ears some more and there's a darker line of pink running through it. Lighten the eyes, as they are hazel, and add a highlight to them. He looks very cute. =)--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:20, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Also, judging by what you said on Scourge you are using paint, right? Try using www.pixlr.com to edit your images. (Use the burn tool for shading and the blur tool for ...blurring.) ₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;">  MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   00:33, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

ok, i used gimp to fix shading.-rainpelt


 * I can hardly see the shading and there's a part gray background..Theres look like some gray near his left foreleg close to the line art. There's also some near his ears and where his two paws meet his chest.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:40, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

i added shading and lightened the eyes and i have fixed the background rainpelt

i worked on shading more, and made the BG transparent, if it dosent show up for you guys tell me. and i also noticed the line art was lightened when i was doing shading, so i fixed that problem, have i fixed it all? rainpelt worked on shading and ears more, no comments in a while, so, i dont know what to do next.

Well, he needs shading on the other side of his body, his front legs and top of head, and your current shading needs to be blurred in more. There's also an extra bit of gray stuck in between the tail and side, get rid of that. -- Bramble My Realm 02:08, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

fixed. rainpelt


 * It looks like you smudged it more than you blurred.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 15:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

blurred instead of smudged


 * The little picks of gray are still there in between the paws and his hind leg.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 22:06, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

did that, and lightened the ears. rainpelt

Graypaw - for approval


Not my best image. I don't know why it's showing up black, could someone fix it for me?Minnowclaw 02:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * Did you save the thumbnail version because it looks a bit smaller than the full size image and it looks as if you saved it as the original jpg file. No problem since you have to get the regular size, save that lineart as png instead of jpg.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 05:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I put it as png, but it's still black.Minnowclaw 14:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It probably looked smaller as it was black, because it's the right size. I've changed the bg to transparent for you Minnow. On the image, he looks a bit pixelated on some parts of his pelt, maybe blur those parts. Otherwise, he's very good. -- Bramble My Realm 20:42, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Bramble! Could you draw me a diagram so I know where I need to blur?Minnowclaw 22:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

If it turns out we need one, I'll make a diagram, but I think I can explain it. Just the basic front side of his body; the chest, his face, the upper edge of his tail, his belly, his forelegs, and his hind leg haunch. It looks speckled, or pixelated in those areas. -- Bramble My Realm 02:10, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Brook where small fish swim - for approval


I don't know how to make a transparent background. Could a very kind person do this for me?Minnowclaw 02:38, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Done :) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch! Is there anything I can improve on Sandy?Minnowclaw 17:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Yes, sorry. I didn't have time to comment properly earlier. Make the eye more orange as it's hard to distinguish it from her pelt right now. Also, the tabby markings are very scratchy. Try thickening them and making them slightly smoother. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Blend the tabby markings. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Jane Volturi ( talk! ) 19:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I thikened it the smallest bit ad it looked like this.Minnowclaw 23:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The Tribe's pelts are streaked with mud. I think you shoud put in a few random lineish mud streaks (Make them lumpy, wavy, and irregular. Mud brown is a bit darker and not bright, but rather dull) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 01:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Brook's eyes are gray, not amber. But anyway good looking image. Sand wich  989  07:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I think she looks good. Comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 23:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The eyes and mud streaks still need doing.. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 23:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Nightstar(Le) for Approval


Have I posted this twice? Dunno... But, I'm sorry, to those who saw, about my blow up last night. I was having a bad day, but I'm sorry, and I'm staying. Anywho, I did Scourge. I hope he looks ok, and will he be able to have a chance at being accepted? I don't know if I used the right blank... -- MU MB LE 785  20:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, this won't be accepted. It's good, but Scourge is considered a rogue. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Jane Volturi ( talk! ) 20:24, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Too true as Scourge, but this image is awesome and I would hate it to go to waste. Mumble, no one is currently working on Nightstar; you can take away the collar and change the eyes amber. You could go with either Nightstar, or you could lighten it and make it Swiftstar of WindClan. Your choice. Also, I am glad you are staying. :) You have great talent. -- Bramble My Realm 20:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! And I'll change him to nightstar. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  20:42, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

The transition is complete... IT'S ALIVE!!! xD Jk. It's just nightstar. Suggestions? -- MU MB LE 785  20:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Technically Nightstar's dead. ;) He looks great, except I think the shading on the right side of his face (our left) is a bit too thick, as well as under his neck. -- Bramble My Realm 21:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

xD Ok, I'll fix it. -- MU MB LE 785  21:46, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I fixed it! -- MU MB LE 785  22:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

ear color should be a shade or two lighter, in my opinion. rainpelt

I don't know about that, rainpelt. He is a black cat, and it might look unnatural that bright...-- MU MB LE 785  01:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * His ear color is fine or you could make it darker. Either way, make some of his black fur be smudged/blurred around the pink. Black cats ears don't always show up being so brightly because of their fur. Another thing blend in the highlight in his chest area.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 04:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Fixed! ;) -- MU MB LE 785  19:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I think he's a bit too dark. Can you lighten him a bit so the shading and features show up more? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Pinestar - For Approval
This is Pinestar, leader of ThunderClan, father of Tigerstar, and kittypet.

eyes should be green, bit more shading, other than that, very goodrainpelt

Your really god at making charcats!It's awesome,but as rainpelt and mumble said,add alittle more shading,then he'll be perfect!I like his green eyes,there like the color of the leaves in Green-leaf! --Firepelt 02:29, 27 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

OMG! It's awesome! But, add some more shading, like rainpelt said. ;) If you need to, you can look at my nightstar (above) or one of the finished leaders. :) (And don't forget to sign your name with the four squigle-things (~)! -- MU MB LE 785  22:54, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

All it said was that he was a reddish-brown tabby tom. Nothing about all this extra stuff you put up. It's, good, but I think you need to change it.Minnowclaw 23:17, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Perhaps take the black markings away and make them slightly darker red, and add more stripes. Also, the lineart is still blurred. As I said before, I can fix this for you if need be. -- Bramble My Realm 02:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I changed the eyes to green, like you said, Rainpelt. I don't remember it saying anything about him being a tabby, but if you look at page 144 in Code of the Clans, you will see a pic of Pinestar's head. It has the same markings I have drawn on him. That'd be great, Bramble, but could u wait untill it is ready to be approved? Jaypaw189 19:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

He's just a red-brown tom, so he doesn't need tabby marks. But the markings on his eyes can stay, just make them a darker brown color instead of black; black sticks out too much. And sure, I can wait until it just needs that done, and then it can be approved. -- Bramble My Realm 23:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Bramble. I made them dark brown, like you asked. Any other changes you need? Jaypaw189 00:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC) aka Jayie

Brackenfoot (W) - For Approval
My first Charat in a while. What do you think? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 00:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Brackenfoot looks pretty good,But I think the nose should be colored like,light pink,or light red.Other than that,good image! --Firepelt 01:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

No, it shouldn't. We color the noses black. Dawn, beautiful pic. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 01:56, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, he looks great, except he seems to me more a pale brown or tan color than pale ginger with darker ginger legs. Make him slightly more gingerish, and he'll look great. -- Bramble My Realm 02:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

He probably looks more pink now... Oh well, if anyone agrees with me I'll go back and try again. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 09:50, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

This looks good to me. I see no problems. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 23:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Redtail-for Approval

 * Well before I have to leave Monday, I wanted to upload the first deputy we ever met, Redtail. I gave him amber eyes since they never gave any information about his eyes, plus to me it seemed to fit him better than green and blue was just yucky..So here he is. I gave his tail a darker ginger since he was best known for it and I think he inherited from his mother Swiftbreeze since she is known for her red tail too. Comments anyone?-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 05:15, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Ooooh I like this one. The thing i see is on the right foreleg, try blending more in between the two colors. Sand wich  989  07:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice job!As sandwich said,try blending more between colors,other than that,no flaughts are visable to me!Kepp up the good work! --Firepelt 02:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

His body is great and looks like a perfect tortie should look, but his tail is way too red. It actually looks crimson. Try making it just a darker shade of his ginger coloured body fur. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Here we are. I used a tortie picture for reference when I was making him since its my first shot at making one. I think I got the color of the tail down this round.Man..I've realized I've come a long way from just my first pixel Squirrelfight...O.o The changes isn't showing up for me....so I hope they show up later because it is when you look at the recent uploads-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 16:44, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Now it shows up ^_^ comments?...so it can get more attention Updated-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 03:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

lol. I changed the file name as rainpelt uploaded a leader pose over it... the file name would have been changed anyway in keeping with the others. I think this looks much better. I'll have another look in a minute and may post again :) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thrushpelt(A) - for approval


Heres my first go at an apprentice blank. I unsuccesfully added highlights but I left them there so you can tell me if there good. It's the Thunderclan one btw. Sand wich  989  07:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

She's beautiful. Can I suggest that you darken the shading a tiny bit, not so that it looks dramati, just so it is a tiny bit more visible. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:00, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Also maybe blend the ear pink a small bit more.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 20:15, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - He needs a pupil and highlight in his eye. ₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;"> MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   21:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Darkened shading a little, fixed eye, blended in ear more. Sand wich  989  23:14, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Cloudspots (Med Cat) - For Approval
I've had him sat on my cp for what seems like a very long time waiting to be put up :) Here he finally is! Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

ears need to show up a bit more, in my opinion. other than that, it looks awesome!

This looks great, Sandy! The only things I can see are to darken the ear pink and to lighten the shading. I can't see the back feet the shading is so dark! :) Hawkfire My Den 15:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Sandy,cloudspot's is awesome,and as hawky said,darken the ear pink,and lighten the shading,other than that,if you fix it a bit more,awesome! --Firepelt 17:58, 27 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

Okay. I darkened the ear pink and lightened the whole image so the shading was less prominent. I can't do much with 'fix it up a bit more' Firepelt as I don't know what that means but thanks for the great compliments! lol Anything else? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Tiny (Ki) - For Approval


(M) - As mentioned on our user lookup, Tiny is our favorite character in the Warriors series. Both me and Stealth love him. So naturally I had to make a character art of him. :) This is my first time doing a kit, but I'm pretty satified with the way it turned out. The collar and the jingle bell was the hardest thing, but I think I got it. Comments? ₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;"> MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   17:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Aww!Tiny is so cute!I bet the collor did take alot of time.no flaws to me,leave him the way he is!don't change him! --Firepelt 18:00, 27 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

This is sooo cute. I actually can't think of anything wrong! I like the way you remembered he was a kittypet kit and needed a collar :) Just going to give everyone a chance to comment though. Nice work. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Aww, thanks guys! Any other comments? ₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;"> MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   20:57, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Squirrelkit-For Approval


I hope this cat is okay.I used www.pixlr.com.I tried my best in doing the outline in the sides,but i tihnk i need a way more darker color.she has tabby stripes on her pelt,and they are darker than the ginger colored pelt.I hope squirrelkit(squirrelflight) is okay!I had anotherimage of squirrelkit,but the paw was way to blurred,so i tried to slvge what i could of it and otouch it up a bit --Firepelt 03:10, 26 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

She's pretty good, Fire. Her tabby stripes are a little messy, though, I'd look at some of Sandy's approved kit pics; they have awesome tabby stripes. Also, move her pupils down to the bottom of her eyes, and add a white pixel above the pupils for highlights, to make her look alive. Also, remember to add shading. Last of all, blur the edge of her white paw, and take away the black line separating her ginger fur from the white. --Bramble My Realm 03:13, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The lineart on her white paw shows blurred to me...-- ♪Shimmer♫ 04:00, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I've made you a diagram. The blue stripes are where your tabby stripes need to be, and when you've added them, using the same color you have the current stripes, blur them a bit. The red circles are where you need to add darker shading; use the burn tool (white-gloved hand) for that. And the green circles are where you need to take out those black lines across the ears, and shrink the pink and put in some ginger around it, like the other approved images. Also, change the eyes like I have them changed. At the moment, her eyes look wonky and twisted. --Bramble My Realm 02:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thx bramble,I touched her up,burned her stripes,and deleted the old one's and put new ones in,i added darker ginger shading like brownish to her and deleted the black line at the ears. --Firepelt 18:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

Better but not there yet. The ear pink needs to be much smaller and blended in (look at some approved kits for reference. Mintkit, Fallowkit and Ivykit for example although there are many others) Then sort out the eyes as she looks cross-eyed (again looking at approved kits for guidance will help greatly). She needs more shading on her neck and sides and you need to extend it into the pelt and blend well to lessen the transition. Then make sure she's not blurry as I can see some blurred lineart that's giving her a fuzzy look :) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Your getting there! Her tabby stripes need to be more thicker and blended a little more. The linart is also blurred to me. Hawkfire My Den 15:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Harespring - for approval
Here's Harespring, my first Charart ever. He's probably not that good, but... any comments?--<span style="color:Silver;background:Aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Echomist <font color="Salmon" style="background:Aqua">Lilydapple 00:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - This is really good! The only thing that strikes me is the eye; it needs to have more color to it. Look at some of the other approved warrior eyes for examples. ₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;"> MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   01:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

This is really good for your first ever charart Echo. I would suggest looking at some approved warriors for help with the highlighting and pupil in the eye and also make the white a very very pale grey instead so that the shading shows up. Add shading on the curve of the hind leg, chest, head and bottom edge of the tail. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, this is pretty good for your first charart. But you need to darken the shading a bit - I can hardly see it. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:silver; background:black; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Sparrow ( song ) 20:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I had to start afresh because my computer had a virus and it deleted a bunch of files, including Harespring. I made a better eye, and now I just need to do the shading. I haven't quite gotten the hang of it yet, so I'll play around with it a little to see if I can get it to look better...--<span style="color:Silver;background:Aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Echomist <font color="Salmon" style="background:Aqua">Lilydapple 02:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Re-doing old Charart?
(M) - I have a suggestion to Bramble and the senior warriors. I think we should redo some of the old Charart. You see, the standards of the project were not as high back then, so we have many cats without shading, eye colors, or ear pink. If the person who made that charart is still part of the project today, they could redo their own image. Otherwise, I think we should redo the old images; we already redid Ferncloud, after all. We could still have the old charats under the chacter pixel section. After all, isn't the project's job to get high-quality images for every warrior cat? It's just a suggestion, but I think we should look into it.

P.S. Some pixels that we might want to redo are:


 * Tawnypelt - Whiskers and nose are colored in. No ear pink. No visable shading. Eye is messed up.


 * Brambleclaw - Eye needs pupil and highlight in it.


 * Weaselfur - Eye needs color. Ear pink is almost non-existant.


 * Feathertail - Eye needs color. Lineart is extremly blurred.


 * Brownpaw - Eye needs pupil and highlight. Markings need to be slightly lighter and blurred more. Ear pink needs to be easier to see.

₪ <span style="font:12px Papyrus;display:inline;border:Goldenrod 2px solid;background-color:white;padding:04px;"> MosswhiskerAndStealthfire   20:25, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I always wondered why the Tawnypelt pic was approved (no offense)(at all). Because it's like we have an apprentice blank of her with white orange and black blank. Then we have a black and brown one with yellow whisker with green eyes in and outside of the eye lineart. So anyway I agree we can tweak the images. Sand wich  989  22:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Definitely, Moss. You beat me and Dawn to putting the idea up. :) Also, all of us should also be able to redo our own images that we aren't happy with. As we've improved over time, our first images don't look as good to us as they did. I know I want to redo Cloudtail, and Brightheart. Any other comments, members? -- Bramble My Realm 23:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)