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Tom (KP) ~ For Approval
Here's Tom. Not exactly my favorite character. Comments? 03:10, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

The stripes get lost in the shading a bit, but they do look pretty neat.

Reuploaded. I don't think changes are showing yet. 03:27, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading and darken it a bit.

Reuploaded. I don't think changes are showing yet. 16:28, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading a bit more, but especially the shading on his right paw and haunch, and his face. I love his charart, amigo. 20:15, 05/18/2014

Darken it a bit more too. Not much, but just a little more.

Define the ear-pink 21:32, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Define the stripes some? They don't look so much as stripes as they do texture o3o 21:34, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The stripes are actually meant to be texture. Not sure if changes are showing yet. 22:04, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

If they are texture, then he needs stripes, since copper pretty much means ginger. 00:00, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I did not realize that. 00:35, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't the stripes be ginger? After all, it's just his muzzle that's described as moleskin-brown o3o 00:36, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Do the stripes have to be ginger? I probably could change them, but it will be hard without redoing the whole image. 18:34, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

If he's copper, and if it doesn't mention that he has moleskin stripes, sorry, but yes, they have to =P. However, you can click the box that says "lock" (if you use GIMP) so you can paintbrush in the ginger without messing up the stripes. Also, add some stripes, and try not to make them triangle-ly. Wish you luck on this one man! c: 18:36, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. There was no way I could have done the stripes without redoing the whole image. I originally made this on a school computer, which didn't have gimp and I wasn't able to download it, either. I was stuck using pixlr, and the only way I could blur the stripes without over-blurring them is if it was on the base layer. Now that I'm at home, I was able to restart using Gimp. I used all the same colors as before (except the stripes), but took off the texture. Hopefully this works. 19:43, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading some? 19:45, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine, but I'll change if someone else agrees. 19:48, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'll agree with Beebs- but remember, define doesn't mean darken, it means make it more visible, by whatever means you think is appropriate. I'm also not seeing very much light here and it looks like most of the image is in shadow? I think defining the depth might help here.

Reuploaded. 21:56, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused as to where your lightsource is coming from, can you define the lightsource please? 18:27, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I totally redid the shading because it was awful. That should have (hopefully) fixed the lightsource issue as well. 20:47, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Also, changes are not showing. 20:48, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Darken/define the stripes on the head? They seem pretty faint. 15:24, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I'm just gonna sneak in here and rename your file to File:Tom (Cat).kittypet.png because the page was named incorrectly therefore making the filename wrong. Since tom is also a term for a male cat and such, I renamed the page.

The stripes on the head are the same color as the rest of the stripes, so I'd rather not change that. 02:10, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Could you define the light source? 13:08, 05/26/2014

Reuloaded. 17:41, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Are you shading with black, or with another color? If you're using black, try a different color, like a darker brown or darker red or something along those lines. The image kinda looks like it's turning grayish, and my guess is it's because of the shading..

Reuploaded. 22:51, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

He still looks grey. Tint the shading a bit more, perhaps? 00:19, 05/29/2014

I don't think the muzzle should be brown, it just says dark 08:36, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I changed the shading color again, as well as the highlights' color, to more of a reddish-brown color. As for the muzzle, I originally thought that moleskin ment a brown color, but now I think it might just be comparing the way his muzzle feels to the skin of a mole, so I changed the muzzle fur to a slightly darker shade of the stripes (thank you, Beebs, for letting me know that locking the layers on Gimp allowed me to change only the colored areas of the selected layer; saved me a lot of hassle). Changes not showing for me. 16:14, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps add a dorsal stripe or something along those lines to his back? Idk, the stripes don't seem very natural and I think the dorsal stripe might help fix this.

Define the overall shading 23:33, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I decided not to add a dorsal stripe; the stripes look natural enough to me. Changes probably not showing. 00:45, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm not understanding how they're natural? Did you use a reference image when you made this? If you did, I'd like to see the stripes. They don't appear natural to me at all.. please add the stripe.

I agree with Skye...please use the dorsal stripe. 01:07, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Whitethroat (Star) - CBA
I'm not sure about how good this is, the earpink took FOREVER to get shaped right, any comments/questions/ideas? notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:16, May 17, 2014 (UTC) (yay, first charart in 3 years!)

Define the shading and eye depth, as well as add some white to his chest. 17:18, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up (did it upload right?) notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:26, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

As for eyes, do you want me to darken the dark and lighten the light? I took the color from his warrior image... notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:27, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. Trunktail 17:36, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the shading and maybe thin out that white patch on his throat/chest area by a couple pixels on each side.

Re-Up. Does it look any different? I'm having problems with the file itself... notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:46, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger. Trunktail 17:51, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Tried to make the earpink a bit more like the other's I've seen, did I do it? notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:57, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

That's better, but there's some waste on the ear. Trunktail 18:16, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Got it! (right?) Thanks, I wouldn't have noticed it otherwise notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  18:21, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it has updated for me yet, but I can still see some waste. Also, could you bring the white on his chest up a bit higher. His other chararts have it going up to his chin. Trunktail 18:35, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Looks a little odd to me... is it just me again? notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  18:47, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

The file needs to be named File:Whitethroat.star.png in order to go with the templates and pages. Please go back to the other file and then you can just reupload over what's already there.

Re-Up: Did I rename it right? notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  19:02, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Nope. See the blue link I gave you? Use that filename and just reupload over it.

Okay, I think I got it THIS time. Is there anything else I could do to tweak it? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  19:05, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

There's still waste outside of his left ear. <font color="34282C">Trunktail 20:23, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Waste should be gone now. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  20:31, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Add a little more depth to his eyes. 01:06, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his middle. <span style="">10:11 Sun May 18

Re-Up. Not sure how much I can work on this today, so here you go (for now) I'll see if I can get the computer back tonight if needed. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  13:08, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on his haunch, and add some depth to it. 17:42, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Re-did the shading completely. Look any better? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:55, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

uggg, looking at this, the shading still looks weird. Anyone else think so? I may just re-do it. (again : <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  00:18, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit and this could just be me and it's my preference (it's up to you) but can you lighten the shading? 18:28, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. Thank you Duck. Looks better now. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  22:11, May 20, 2014 (UTC) (Are changes showing?)

Blur the shading more on the back, add some variation to the color/darkness of the shading on the white chest, add ear-pink in the turned ear and give him a gray nose. Also, check the linear on his left forepaw, it looks slightly blurred around the toes. 04:44, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re Ups. Are the changes showing? <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  21:09, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

They are. Darken the shading. This is looking much better than when you first started and I'm very impressed with your progress. =)

Re-Ups. Thank you Skye. I'm pretty proud of this. :) <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  23:56, May 21, 2014 (UTC) (I know I sound like a broken record, but is the shading okay now and are the changes showing or is it too dark?

If anything, it seems too light, so darken it, please. Also, define it, and smooth out the haunch shading. 15:25, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. Better, Beebs? <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  19:14, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Add some more depth in the shading, it look a bit flat. Also, darken the base color 04:12, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. Not quite sure what you meant by depth for the shading, so I darkened everything. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  16:34, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading.

Add another layer of shading (but don't cover the new shading with it; make it smaller than the current shading) then blur it, then lower the opacity. Make sure this layer is above the shading you already have. That will give it more depth. Leave a message on my talk if you need any help, man. <span style="">16:22, 05/26/2014

Re-Ups Okay, I added another layer, added small-er shading around the edge of the tail, outside of ear, belly, the inside of his left leg and the outside of the right. I can send the xcf file if anyone wants it. (Me is horridly confused.) The shading is darker in the layer I just mentioned, btw. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  21:42, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Make the white on his chest just a little whiter (maybe add a small highlight or something along those lines), and this'll be good to go, imho. This is very lovely. .o.

Okay, so is there a way to open the xcf file in Pixlr? I've tried GIMP on Rollapp, but nothing works on there, and I don't have the capability to use GIMP on here. IS there anything that can open the xcf (So I can get the layers), or is there a way to convert the png to layers so I can edit it? Really wanna get this done tonight... <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  14:59, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

No, but if you send the file to me, I can convert it to a .psd for you, and send it back. You can use .psd files (photoshop files in case you didn't know) in both GIMP and Pixlr.

Ehhh, I'm just being nitpicky- I take back my comment, and I'm going to CBA this instead.

Sorry to interrupt, but could you define the shading on the face, and smooth out/smudge/blur the shading on the >>> paw? Also, if you want, but you don't have do, smudge the fur into the earpink, since it looks overblurred. 18:20, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Also, I see a white speck on <<< paw. Can you fill it in with some shading? 18:21, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Better? 20:31, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

aaaaaand it's not showing the friggin changes. This file is a pain. It shows it in the revert version... 21:02, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, changes are here: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GnlyidpOjHg/U4ZQFSd3DFI/AAAAAAAANKM/3Zoh6Usalbo/w160-h129-no/Whitethroat.star.png 21:08, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Smooth out and blur the paws shading some. 00:04, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not going to be able to work on this for awhile, probably until at the earliest Saturday, so other than the paws, is there anything else that needs work? 13:05, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Define the haunch and tail shading a lil, and theres a couple pixels on a paw that have been missed by the shading 13:30, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Changes (per usual) aren't showing. You can get them here: <img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--eBJzeHF-Oc/U4j55VP_1RI/AAAAAAAANPI/Ds9dIg9-aWs/w346-h279/Whitethroat.star.png" alt="Whitethroat.star.png (160×129)"/> 21:38, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Let's try for a CBA again. At the same time, I'm also gonna make you an apprentice, since your progress has shown me you know what you're doing.

Uhh, I'm sorry to interrupt, but blur the chest shading just a bit, and this will go back to a CBA. 21:55, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. (not uploaded, just saved as a draft post. I'll delete it when wikia isn't slow anymore and actually shows changes. 22:24, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Back to a CBA, then? 22:30, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Ao sorry but can you define the shading or the lightsource a tad on the legs, I'm a bit confused as to where it's coming from. 23:32, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

I disagree, and I can see it just fine- it looks like one of the ones I've used, and various others have used. It's fine, so I'm going to continue the CBA.

Mothflight (Kit) - For Evaluation
Why is it so smalllll? Anyways, yeah, I can't art, and I'm not entirely satisfied with the shading (Shading on white cats >3<) :c. Anyways I'm not sure if I should add highlights or not, so, yeah. Also, my computer perception is wacked lol. 17:17, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Not bad for a first-timer, Bird! Define and add some depth to the shading. 17:43, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Could you also blur the shading some? This looks nice, Bird. 17:47, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

This needs to named File:Mothflight.kit.png. You can reupload over the file that's already there, Bird- it was never approved.

Yeah, I know, but for some reason the old picture just kept overwriting my own. x3  23:56, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, I kind of want to redo the shading entirely. 00:03, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

She's looking beautiful, Bird. Perhaps blur the edges of the shading a little more, and then give it some depth around the neck and legs? If you're not sure what I mean, you're more than welcome to come and ask me in the chat when you're online.

Reups yeahdefinatelygoingtoredotheshading  22:20, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading, it looks quite flat. <font color="34282C">Trunktail 19:39, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

I'm going to hold off defining it, because if I define it, means I'd have to blur some more, and what it looks like on my computer, that there's more shading than actual fur colour, so if more people say define it, then I will, but currently with all the blurred shading, I'd rather try and avoid it. 21:58, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Give the shading some depth and define the light source 02:00, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups I had to redo the shading, and added highlights, but I'm not going to darken the shading anymore, because if I make it any darker it just looks weird  16:30, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the edges of the shading and maybe add some to the head. ouo Remember what I showed you on join.me, dear? Try something like that for shading.

Enlarge the earpink a tad.

Re-ups I depthed it the best I could, (Even though depthed isn't a word hehe)  17:31, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Deepened is probably a better word. Blur the chest shading a bit uvu  Anais ♥ (talk)   17:35, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps add another layer of shading to give him some depth? If you need help with that, feel free to message me and I'll show you ouo <span style="">17:45, 05/26/2014

I'm using Pixlr right now, and I can't lock layers. (Not that I didn't know how to use layers lol) -- 18:05, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

I hate to sound like a broken record, X3 but could you blur the chest shading a tad? Neverendingmoon (talk) 01:25, May 28, 2014 (UTC)Moony

Re-ups -- 17:21, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the edges of the shading more. =P

Reups 20:01, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Littlecloud(Alt MCA) - For Approval
Ugh I'm out of practice and this looks waaaay different now that I've uploaded it. Comments? 23:16, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Define and blur the shading? This is lovely, Duck~ <span style="">23:19, 05/20/2014

Is it me, or do the stripes get a little bit lost, so to say, in some places?

Re-uploaded 02:39, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, a suggestion, perhaps? If you have the spare time and want to do this, maybe take a size one smudge point and gently smudge the stripes to give them more of a flowing look? It's entirely up to you, but that's what I've done before and usually it comes out really well.

I actually always do that after i blur them but I'll do it more if it needs it. 16:22, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe just a little bit, if you don't mind? Also define the overall shading, especially on the feet.

Re-uploaded 01:39, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the shading a touch. Lovely work, dear c: 02:02, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded thanks scar c: 02:56, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere barring the tail. Nice job, Duck. 15:27, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:39, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Define and blur the shading again please? I'm still having trouble seeing it and what I can see looks mostly unblurred. I love the stripes though .o. <span style="">16:27, 05/26/2014

I think the shading's fine, there are other images that have way less blurred shading and this shading is blurred and I can see it perfectly fine. 16:56, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the body shading.

Re-uploaded 22:12, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on (his left) left paw. He's pretty 17:22, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded thanks~ 02:59, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

On his left paw, the shading looks really off, like it's seeping through the lines, it also looks a bit flat. And the shading around his flank and back leg looks a bit unblurred, but that may just be me. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 18:42, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I blurred the shading on the flank but besides that I think it's fine, I don't see where it's seeping through the lines, if I blurred the leg more it'd be practically invisible,a nd I don't think it's flat at all. 19:06, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Dawncloud (Star) ~ For Approval
comments? — <span style="">20:14 Wed May 21

Make her a little more on the ginger side? I almost forgot we finally had a cite for her actual pelt color and wondered why she looked different.

Her other images don't have texture and a pale belly o3o 23:05, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

reups — <span style="">00:08 Sat May 24

Another nitpick, but aren't her eyes supposed to be blue, like the other images? 15:28, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Still working? 00:03, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

reups sorry! — <span style="">22:22 Fri May 30

Darken the base and stripes a bit to matched the tweaked apprentice. o3o 22:27, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I believe that the tweaked apprentice should match this since this was posted first. 22:32, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Thing is, it is literally impossible for it to match, since unless Wild is out there with the files, I can't make it match 100% with the StarClanner. 22:34, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

The stripes seem to be a tad over-blurred/smudged when compared to the apprentice and the other images. Also it's just a bit easier for Bloo to match the apprentice, due to her possessing the file for this image. I think the choice should be agreed upon by Beebs and her, though.

reups changes here — <span style="">23:42 Fri May 30

She looks light brown, not light ginger. 23:27, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Owl Eyes (Ki) - For Approval
Yep, I'm back already. Hey, I don't really have anything else to do. So why not do a Char Art of my favorite Ancient Cat? Comments? Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 15:28, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

What's with the tail? He should have a short-furred tail if you're using the short-furred blank.

Well I thought since in his description it says he has a fluffy tail, it should be included in his Charart. Should I change it back to shorthaired? Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 15:52, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

He'd only get the fluffy tail if he was named for it, and he wasn't. Which, speaking of being named for something, he'll need bigger eyes.

Re-ups, don't think changes are showing yet Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 15:58, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Wait, why would he only get the fluffy tail if he was named after it? It's part of his description from the book. Rock isn't named after his sightless eyes or his bald pelt, but his charart was edited to include them. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 16:02, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Remember that it's likely that Rock could see and he had a full pelt when he was kitten. And complete baldness and blindness is very significant, affecting his appearance /majorly/. Also, fluffiness isn't too significant, unless the cat is named for it; if a cat is named for it, it's gotta pretty significant enough for it to be on a charart. 16:07, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Because it's not a prominent feature, Jayfrost. With Rock, his sightless eyes and bald pelt are a major part of his description, so that's why he gets them shown on his charart.

if a cat has a fluffy tail dont they usually just get made longhaired?? 16:11, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

But according to the books, Owl Eyes definitely does have the fluffy tail. I guess I'm just a little confused why we would deliberately leave it out of the charart when he know that it's a canon part of his description. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 16:12, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Because it's not a major, life-altering/defining part of his description. With cats like Featherwhisker, Crookedstar, Owlstar, ect, they were obviously named for certain things, so that's why we include them in their chararts. Owl Eyes was more than likely named for his eyes (and we all know Owlstar and Owl Eyes are more than likely the same cat lmaO), so his eyes would be made larger, just like Owlstar's images. Featherwhisker's whiskers were tweaked, Crookedstar's jaw was tweaked, Tallstar's tail was made longer, ect. A lot of cats have been called fluffy before, and the most we've done is make them long-haired unless it's an extremely important and vital part of their description.

Just give him a long-haired blank unless he was specifically described with a short pelt and a long-furred tail. 18:06, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Is it just me or is anyone able to see the changes? Because on my screen the changes are still not showing after a couple hours. I fixed his tail and made his eyes bigger but for soem reason they're not showing up? Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 19:21, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

I reverted the image to the second upload, which appears to show the changes. You must have uploaded a third time by accident.

Oh. Thank you :3 Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 19:45, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on >>> foreleg. 15:30, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, changes don't appear to be showing yet. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 12:06, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Try reuploading it again? Also, add some depth to the eyes. <span style="">16:34, 05/26/2014

Re-uped. As usual changes don't appear to be showing. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 17:43, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

There's some waste around the head.

Are you sure? I looked all over and can't see any, also, the changes still are not showing. Does anyone know how to fix this? It should be showing aversion with some more light on the right leg and eye depth. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 21:26, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Where's your light source coming from? Also, images can take a while to visually update. Also, check your layers for the waste. 17:24, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups. Defined the light a bit more and got rid of some waste around the foot, but I couldn't find any more. Sicne changes refuse to show for me, you can view the current image here --> http://i60.tinypic.com/10h54jp.png Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 18:01, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

CBA? I really like this and he's adorable.

Sorry but can you define the eye depth and define the shading on the legs and tail. 23:31, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, shanges be here --> http://i59.tinypic.com/2epilxg.png Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 12:24, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

One-eye (Q) - For Approval
Comments? All colours are from her other images. <span style="">22:29, 05/23/2014

Could you lighten that shading just a bit? I know it's artist's choice, but it looks kinda dark... 22:52, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a difference between artist's choice and the shading just being too dark for the pelt. I think in this case, it's too dark in general. Also blur the shading too.

Reups <span style="">12:57, 05/26/2014

Define the chest shading please. c: 14:03, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Can you define the light source? I don't really understand where the light is coming from. Those eyes owo

Reups the eyes are epic i love them i did a fantastic job~ <span style="">15:16, 05/26/2014

Maybe blur the shading a little more, and lighten it a couple percent on the opacity bar? Like, no more than maybe... 5%? Or at least for the tail/"back end" of the cat...everywhere else seems fine, but those areas are slightly darker.

Still working?

Hawkheart (Star) ~ For Approval
I've never done flecks/mottles before.. so critique is kinda needed on that. Color picked from his Medicine cat image. Comments?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 22:54, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Don't you already have an image up? Neverendingmoon (talk) 23:08, May 23, 2014 (UTC)Moony

If you look in the comments for Whiteclaw's, I withdrew so i could work on this one instead.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:11, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Add some earpink, define the light on his legs and tail, and make the flecks and mottles match his other images more. I'd recommend asking the OA of one of them for the file, so you can get the right colours exactly and study the pattern properly. Also, this needs to be named 'Hawkheart.star.png'. 23:14, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading.

Re-Up.  Added highlights to his tail and legs, and i changed his mottles. Does that look better?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 00:07, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I think you should define the shading a bit more. Think about where your light is coming from. Is it coming toward him from the top left corner above the hip and tail? Then shade along the right edge of the face (our right) and the tops of the front legs, and the right of the chest and the bottom of the belly. If it's coming from the top right corner above his head, shade the left side of the face, the bottom of the front legs, shade a little on the left side of the chest, shade a lot on the lower left side of the back, and the tail. Just think about where the light is coming from and where the shadows would fall on Hawkheart's frame. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 01:57, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-Up. '''Does that look any better? I couldnt make it to dark, because it was starting to make his mottles blur a bit..~Breezeheart~ (talk) 02:20, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the earpink and face shading some. 15:32, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up.  Added darker shading. I'd rather not define the ear pick anymore so it still matches his other images, since i color-picked it from his Medicine cat image.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 18:50, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define means to make it more visible, by whichever means you wish. It doesn't always mean changing the color. It honestly just means make it so we can see it- perhaps changing the lighting in the ears, shifting the style, ect.

'''Re-Up. '''Better?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 19:04, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink and define the light source 05:55, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-Up. '''Smudged ear pink and difined the light source.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 18:03, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light/shading on the tail? Beautiful image, Breeze! <span style="">16:51, 05/26/2014

Re-up.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 20:49, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Can you make the grey more visible?

Define your light on the paw closest to us, maybe? And smooth out the shading in the top of the closest ear a bit, it looks a bit blotchy (might not be the right word I'm using) 17:35, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. added more gray mottles and smoothed out the shading a bit.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 20:05, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

The shading is swallowing the tail. Lighten the shading on the tail, and define the mottles on the tail as well. The light on the tail could also use some defining. <span style="">00:10, 05/29/2014

Re-up. Better?--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 02:05, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Tallpoppy (Alt.Q) ~ For Approval
comments? — <span style="">00:48 Sat May 24

Do you mind possibly reddening the ear pink a little bit so I can see it a bit better?

reups, hows this? — <span style="">00:56 Sat May 24

That's better, thank you. Maybe give a little more depth to the belly shading? If you don't want to, that's cool with me. ^^ Another stellar charart, dear.

Also, define the shading on the face and chest, too. Pretty! 15:32, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Still working? 00:03, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

reups changes here — <span style="">23:45 Fri May 30

Beetlewhisker (Star) ~ For Approval
k was gonna do pixie but w/e i think its a week before you reservation expires without posting isnt it 11:20, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and overall define the shading. He's pretty :3 Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 11:52, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Shading is fine, but I do agree on the stripes needing a bit of blurring to match the other images. This is really nice Skt .o. <span style="">12:05 Mon May 26

Actually, can you blur the shading a bit? 14:04, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I smudged the shading a little as i dont blur my shading but otherwise I thought it was fine 01:37, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

(changed the belly/haunch shading bc it was bugging me) 00:04, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Smoothen out the shading on his forefeets/fore paws, and this will be good. 21:09, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

re-uploaded 09:49, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Birch (Alt. Ki) - For Approval
loo at this cutie patootie. Comments? <span style="">12:42, 05/26/2014

Lighten the brown a little bit? I almost thought it was black. 13:44, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="">13:49, 05/26/2014

CBA? Very nice, dear. 19:52, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I really can't tell if the brown is brown or black, especially along the back/side lineart.

Is this still being worked on and did Ferk go poof?

Oakheart (Alt. Star2) - For Approval
It seems to me that someone who believes Oakheart should be bracken-colored is continuously whispering over the Erins' shoulders… hmmm… scarly thoughtful face   05:43, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

There's a little bit of waste around the front left paw and where the tail tip meets the belly. I'm that person...ಠwಠ Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 12:08, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:37, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and paws. This is prettyyyy.

Re-uploaded 23:40, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Comments before approval?

Add some depth to the shading on the face. 13:41, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine, honestly.

I agree with beebs. 23:30, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 03:11, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Morning Whisker (Ki) ~ For Approval
ahh cutie, hope she lives ;w; Comments? 18:40, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the face and tail? And add a bit of depth to that hind paw; it looks flat. cutie <span style="">21:09, 05/28/2014

re-up 21:17, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

I can barely see the stripes at all.

re-up darkened 'em. Also, since the pattern is classic tabby on this kit, her stripes are thick on her body o3o 18:09, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Makes sense to me. That same back paw that Ferk mentioned is still looking a bit flat.

re-up 18:37, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Night (KM) ~ For Approval
Yaay, my first kit mother! I hope the mud streaks look good - I mean, she is pregnant, so she wouldn't have to go out much, and thus wouldn't have as widespread mud on her pelt. Comments? 18:40, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading and darken it a bit.

re-up darkening it pretty much did the trick 18:10, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

There's absolutely no light on her tail and it looks like a black wavy line with some dirt...which is why shading shorthair cats should be illegal.

re-up i tried man 03:43, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Daisy (Q) ~ For Approval
I know she's cream but she reminds me of a warm cup of milky hot chocolate; changes be here 20:31, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. Also, on the foreleg closest to us, there's some shading missing from the "elbow" right next to the back foot. Those eyes *-* <span style="">21:06, 05/28/2014

Woah! What happened to the image? It's majorly distorted and using the old queen blank. But on the link, The shading on the tail could be blurred a bit more and the shading on the fur tuft on the left arm dissapears near the lineart a bit. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 21:34, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Uh, you basically just repeated what Ferk said, Trunktail. Try to not repeat comments- it's counterproductive.

Reuped Trunk, the image is like that because the queen's narrower and the pixels are different or something, it takes a while. 23:15, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Also, here's the changes since they're not showing yet 21:13, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

There's this circle of white on her cheek. Is that supposed to be a highlight or something like that?

It's not a highlight, it's normal light. It's like it on most of my queens. 14:24, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Can you dull it or something? It's fine on other ones, but on this particular color pelt, it stands out a bit more than I'd think it should.

Reups changes 17:05, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Reups I just got rid of this random dot of shading between her belly and one of her back legs, it was irritating, changes be here 01:58, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Dappletail (Queen) - For Approval
Not sure if I got this quite right. It looks alright, but it doesn't look quite as bright as her other images, even though I pulled the colors right from there. Let me know what you think. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 23:44, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light source on her back and hindlegs. this is really great, Jay :)~Breezeheart~ (talk) 03:53, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Dunno if it's showing up, but I added highlights on the belly, back, face, tail, and legs. Hopefully that helps. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 04:09, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Yay, the changes are finally showing up! Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 17:10, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Remove the white background. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 17:56, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Done. The reason it had a white background was I tried uploading it as a JPG from my iPad, which seemed to let the changes show up. I re-uploaded it as a PNG without the white background, but I can't seem to get the changes to show up. :/ Any suggestions? Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 18:02, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

The changes are on this link: http://www.ezimba.com/work/140530C/ezimba19266726720400.png Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 18:25, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Sharpen the markings. This is amazing! <span style="">23:35 Thu May 29

Sharpened and brightened some of the markings. Hopefully that looks better. Changes are here: http://www.ezimba.com/work/140530C/ezimba19266775965500.png Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 23:49, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on -> front paw. This is gorgeous.

Aw, thanks. :) Defined the shading on the leg and paw. The changes are here: http://www.ezimba.com/work/140531C/ezimba19266720869600.png Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 17:40, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the closest hind leg a bit. 13:14, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (MC) (Alt 3) ~ For Approval
first MC; ew. 23:51, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

She wouldn't have the smoke markings, since she wasn't mentioned as smoky pale gray. 23:52, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading.

Reups changes be here 21:12, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the body shading, and define it on the feet- especially that injured one.

Reups lookey here for the changes 17:01, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

The smoke's not still on the image, right? I can't quite tell. Also darken only the tail shading a bit.

Reups yes, it's gone. Changes here; does the texture look okay? 17:17, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Boulder (Star) ~ For Approval
throw me your commentses <span style="">13:30 Fri May 30

Blur the stripes just a little bit- they're a little too hard-edged compared to the other images.

Shouldn't he have a shredded ear or am I just being a derp? Neverendingmoon (talk) 13:04, May 31, 2014 (UTC)Moony

Molepaw (NP) (A) ~ For Approval
Please bear with me on the sloppyness, I've not made a charart in ages ^_^ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Pikachushinx the power of the past 14:49, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

The file name needs to be File:Molepaw (NP).apprentice.png. Would you like me to rename it for you?

Yes, please, I don't remember how. V_V <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Pikachushinx the power of the past 16:19, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Renamed. Only 'ops can rename files, hence why I offered. Reuploading under a different file name just duplicates files and makes it messy. As for the image itself, could you darken the shading, define it, and depending on how it looks after that, you may also want to darken the base pelt, since he is black. Try just fixing the shading, reupload it, and see how it looks- if it's still too light, then darken the base pelt. I use between #171717 and #0E0E0E, but the darker you get, the more difficult it is to shade. Seeing the lineart in all places is not mandatory, especially on black cats.

'''Re-uploaded. '''Although I don't think the changes are showing :/ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Pikachushinx the power of the past 16:52, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

I believe the entire muzzle needs to be gray, and sort of smudge the part where the gray paws meet the rest of the leg; smudge it into little 'tufts', since it looks rather abrupt. Not bad! 16:54, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Upload the changes to iaza or tinypic and link it here, that way we can see the changes. Wikia's being a butthead with images right now.

Re-uploaded, but Wikia's still being a butt. I smudged the muzzle, too. Here. <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Pikachushinx the power of the past 17:06, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Could you darken the pale gray some? It's bordering off-white. 01:53, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Here <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Pikachushinx the power of the past 06:49, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Darken it a touch more. 23:29, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''In case Wikia's still being stupid, here. <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Pikachushinx the power of the past 08:20, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Jaggedtooth (Lo) - For Approval
Hello, I tried. All colors are the same. I'm actually really proud of this and it doesn't not match too terribly bad... keep in mind the loner blanks and the rogue/warriors are facing different directions. o3o

Define the shading on the edges of the front of the face. 22:16, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ah, trying to shade this is fun.

Pinenose (Q) - For Approval
20:31, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light source on her back, legs, and tail. and add some depth to the eyes. Looks great :)~Breezeheart~ (talk) 20:39, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

I think the eyes and back are fine but I did define the lightsource in the other areas. Thanks! c: 22:37, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading...and either it's just me, or she looks kinda cross-eyed.

Re-uploaded tried with the eyes 22:43, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Bright Stream (Star) - For Approval
I'm not entirely happy with the way the markings fall on her back, but I figured I'd let people give suggestions on how to alter it. Any thoughts? Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 00:23, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

She doesn't have texture on her chest. Also, her white seems a bit gray, and her tail markings could be a bit less smudged to match the rogue. Nice! I wanted this one ;-; 00:25, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

I hope this is better? Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 01:08, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, think you can smoothen out the chest highlight? Also, for the white, I recommend using pure white so that it doesn't look so gray o3o 01:11, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the white circle highlight on her chest a little bit, (Bbun beat me too it xD) and add a little more depth too her eyes. Looks great, jay :)~Breezeheart~ (talk) 01:12, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Blurred the shading and lightened the white parts of the fur. Is that alright? Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 01:34, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

The paw to my >>>> looks really gray, and also, smoothen out the shading on it. 13:13, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Morningflower (Queen) ~ For Approval
Not very proud of this one.. never done a tortie before. I think i might of smudged her markings a bit too much.. oh well. Comments? ~Breezeheart~ (talk) 01:06, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Sharpen the patches just a tad bit. 01:04, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-up. '''Better?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 01:11, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading. I'll promote you to apprentice as well due to your knowledge and understanding of the basics of charart making. =)

Flight (Q) -  For Approval
wow imma derp… here's flight. All the colors are from her prey hunter. And if someone gets around to it, do ya wanna move this to legit name imma dero     never mind, i got it   04:02, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Then you may want to put the KM file here instead of the queen one you dork. =P

Yeah, I should probably mention that this file's been named wrong the entire time, Scar. The correct file is File:Flight.km.png. Tribe cats are kit-mothers, hence the km abbreviation.


 * Re-uplaoded, I think… 21:25, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Mapleshade (Ki) ~ For Approval
OMG Mapleshade is so fluffy. ;-; This is my first charart for the Warriors Wiki. Comments?

Define th shading a bit more, and add a few highlights. Also add a little more depth too her eyes (You dont have to do this one, its just preference).~Breezeheart~ (talk) 13:09, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Highlights aren't mandatory.

Re-uploaded ~ Added a bit more shading and highlights. Hope you can see it (when the re-upload finally appears on the wiki :/ ).

The white is really gray on the tail, so brighten that up a bit. This is really good and matches quite wonderfully. .o.

Although this was supposed to stay as "for evaluation", since you obviously understand the basics and what it takes to make a charart, I'll let this stay how it is and promote you to apprentice.

Fircone (alt Ro) ~ For Approval
I honestly don't think that mottled is my thing. Comments? <span style="">17:44 Sat May 31

Define the shading, its barely visible. Also, try blurring/smudging the mottles a little bit.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 22:56, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Honestly, I think both are fine, but if someone else agrees, I'll change it. <span style="">0:42 Sun Jun 1

Velvet (Q) - For Approval
All colors from the kittypet. Ahh, I remember doing this image back during my early lead days. *.*

Fircone (Alt Rogue 2) - For Approval
Withdrew Shattered Ice so I could do this one instead uvu I'm sorry if I did something incorrectly  Anais ♥ (talk)   21:14, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Don't align the image, and this needs to be named File:Fircone.rogue.alt2.png. Do you want me to rename it for you?

Hhhh yes please I'm sorry I keep messing up naming it I feel bad xx; thank you very much  Anais ♥ (talk)   21:22, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Renamed. No need to apologize, dear. That's why I offered. You'll understand the naming rules as time goes on. =)

Ahhhah ok thank you uvu<span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'HelveticaNeue',HelveticaNeue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14.44444465637207px;line-height:21.77777862548828px;">💜   Anais ♥ (talk)   21:27, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on his legs Damn I wanted to try this one =p   21:44, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

You obviously know what you're doing, so I'm going to promote you to apprentice and change this to "for approval".

Reuploaded ahhh thank you thank you <span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:HelveticaNeue,HelveticaNeue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;line-height:21.77777862548828px;">💜 <span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:HelveticaNeue,HelveticaNeue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;line-height:21.77777862548828px;">💜 <span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:HelveticaNeue,HelveticaNeue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;line-height:21.77777862548828px;">💜  Anais ♥ (talk)   21:58, May 31, 2014 (UTC)