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Loner Blanks - For Approval


(M) - I did more of a Melonlemon-style with these blanks and I'm pretty happy with the way they turned out. I also made an example (The shading might be in the wrong places though.)



Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

These are great! Give the muzzle a bit more of a stop and the ears look weird... but I really like them. - Darkhallows Lair 22:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

this looks really good Mosswhisker! but since they're loners ,wouldn't the fur be a bit scruffier?-- ☆Darkkeh☆ uh...hi 22:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

For some reason the head looks a bit small to me... but they look great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 23:35, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Mosswhisker... you're amazing at making blanks! There are only a few things that I can say about these. Firstly, the neck looks a bit too thin, almost pinched, maybe you could make it a bit thicker. Also, I think there should be a bit more definition between the neck and the foreleg, it looks a little too smooth to me. These are incredible, though! ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 23:39, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks guys! I'll change them tomorrow, after school. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 00:03, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Okay! I changed the muzzles so they have a stop, fixed the foreleg, and fixed the neck. (All I did was shorten it, and I think that helped.) I also didn't know what was wrong with the ears, but I did make them less pointy. I didn't change the fur because it's pretty scruffy as it is, and Loners wouldn't be a scruffy as Roughes. I didn't change the head size becuase when I inceased in by a mear 2 pixles, it looked waaay to big. I also got rid of the gray lines on the longhaireds. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:35, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

The ears look a little small. Can you make them a bit bigger? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:19, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

The toes on their paws look a little weird... could you change them? -- Rain whisker 09 20:22, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Changed the toes and (even though it's hard to see) widened the ears. I also changed the shape of two of the paws a bit. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:55, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think there great. I just think that the eyes are a little small. Other then that I hope they get approved before long. --Spottedwing 02:05, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know..the eyebrows look awkward?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think the whiskers are a little short. But they're great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 12:05, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'll fix these tomorrow. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:55, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few things - Don't get me wrong - i think that these are good, and I know that you've put a lot of effort into them. I'm just trying to help. -- Dawnfeather talk! 06:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * The legs are all different lengths. Tey get longer and longer towards the right of the image. The front paw which is bent in the action of walking should be shorter than the others, (because it is bent and therefore not at it's full length) but at the mkoment it is too long.
 * The body is slanted downwards (towards the front of the cat) This may look okay as you finish up the image without being adjusted, but you can have a go at making it more evn if you want to.
 * The ears looks to thin. Don't change the height right now, but have a look at the ears. Also, the back one should probably be on the other side. maybe just fiddle around a bit.
 * The muzzle - it just looks weird to me, no offense. Lots of it is out of proportion and place just within that small space. Open up an approved blank and these, and carefully chck the face, moving around the pixels until they look similar-ish.

(M) - I fixed zeh whiskers. I didn't change the eyes because I couldn't get them to look right, and I don't know what you mean by "eyebrows".
 * Thanks Dawn! I'll fix those things tomorrow. (I'm suffering from chronic lazyness right now.) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  21:52, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Lol, sorry Moss. I thought the whiskers were eyes, and the eyes were eyebrows.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:46, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the whiskers should be a bit far apart. That's why they looked like eyes to me. (no offense)–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:28, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the paws and the ears. I'll fix the rest soon. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:12, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like their far rear leg goes through the pelt.*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:48, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't know how to word it, so thank you, Swallowtip. ;) Otherwise, these look great!  Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:19, September 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * The hind legs are kind of overlapping, if you know what I mean...–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:11, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the legs and the whiskers. I can't get the muzzles to look right Dawn; could you maybe make me a diagram? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:05, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - What else do I need to fix besides the muzzles? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Their hind end looks slightly higher than their font; like they're coming down from a hill. Balance those out, and also make the hind paw that's lifted curl slightly outwards, if you know what that means. It'll look more natural. -- Bramble -san  23:03, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Could you move the eyes and whiskers down a few pixels? And maybe make the eyes a little bigger.-- Darkhallows My den 23:45, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

there is a line on their leg hind leg that is driving me nuts.Minnowclaw 01:45, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

The longhairs fur-tufts seem to go a little too far down the legs.-- Darkhallows My den 05:00, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'm going to work on these this weekend. (School has eaten my free time and is using my relaxation as a toothick. >_< ) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  19:34, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - See, I'm not dead! xP I fixed the tufts, moved the eyes and whiskers back a few pixles, and fixed the bodies so they're leveled out (Dawnfeather actually commented on this, and then I completely forgot to fix it, which shows just how much I pay attention. -_-;;; ) I tried to fix the eyes, but then they looked too big. Sorry! Also, that line is the haunch, and I didn't know how to curve the paw back; could you explain that a little more Bramble? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:16, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Well, kind of like this little guy here See how his back paw sort of curves backward, because he just took it off the ground? -- Bramble -san  22:22, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Lovely, mossy. But on the short-hairs, on the back of the paws there no claw like the long-hairs... And there's really something btohering me about the eyes... There really, really small...--Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 18:57, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thank you Bramble; wonderful pic! I fixed the paws. Warrior♥, I should have the changes you mentioned fixed by Thursday. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

The head does look small in proportion to the body. It looks fine in all of the other departments, though. --Sandiwolf 02:24, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - That actually isn't a dewclaw; it's just a tuft of fur. Origonally it was a dewclaw, but then I realized you wouldn't see that on a cat unless you were very close to them, so I changed it to a fur tuft.

As for the eyes, I decided that I would keep trying to fix them until I got them to be bigger. So I opened Pixlr and got it right on my first try this time. O.O Now, the eyes look a little strange when they're not colored in, but I made a colored example of Husker to show you guys what they look like when they're colored in. There are actually two different ways you can do the eyes, but I prefer this style.



Also, I'll fix the heads soon. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 01:37, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I've fixed the heads. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:33, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

The still look a litle off-blanaced; the hind end looks too high up, as if they're tilted forward, and the very back leg looks too high off the ground. Also; on the farthest back legs, I know you're trying to show toes, but the curves look odd; try taking them out. Other than this, I'd say they're ready. -- Bramble -san  22:15, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks Bramble! I will get to these soon (Sunday at the latest) Also, I am going to do Crookedstar as a deputy and the kittypet blanks; first I have to get done with these. So ... yea. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:00, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - All praise weekends! I took out the paw curves and fixed the backs. I didn't change the leg becuase it looked very... awkard when I did. What else should I fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:36, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I think these are ready. Awesome job, Moss. Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  23:49, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

The rear left leg looks like it goes throught the hip. Minnowclaw 21:34, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

What does that mean? Would you mind elaborating some more, Minnow? -- Bramble -san  02:21, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Yes, please elaborate some more. That's the haunch, so I don't know what exactly you mean. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:25, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

The body sort of looks like a... box. Maybe make the chests or backs more round?  Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 21:47, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I rounded their rumps in an attempt to make them less box like. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:51, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I think they're beutiful, but its not my choice--♥Shadowedheart♥ 11:33, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Repeating, comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:52, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Birchstar (RC)for approval
My first leader and my first tabby. Comments? --Spottedwing 00:42, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Here are a few things: It mostly just needs shading. The ear pink looks fine, and so does most of the tabby stripes. Otherwise, I think it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:16, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Needs shading. If it's there, I can't see it.
 * The nose pink is too bright, it's more of a hot pink rather than just a pink. Try to lighten it some. But from the pictures I was looking at on Google images, brown cats tend to have either brown or black noses, depending on whether they're multi-colored. Try changing it to just a lighter shade of brown from the color of the fur.

The tabby stipes need to be longer in most cases and more varied. Add shading and blend it well. Lighten the nose pink. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:34, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Redid the image. Made the tabby stripes longer, fixed nose and ear pink, and added shading. Is there anything else? --Spottedwing 02:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Still needs thicker and darker shading. Then blend it for natural transitions. As for the stripes - make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:36, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

What do you meen by regular?--Spottedwing 02:27, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

um... regular. i'll try and think of another way to describe it lol. bear with me. Make the different lengths, shapes and sizes. That would make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:29, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Made the tabby stripes longer and darker. Added more shading. I really don't know what to think of it. Is it better? Worse? --Spottedwing 00:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the tabby stripes a bit more.*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 01:39, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Also, more shading is needed. Thicken it slightly and then blend. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to her as soon as I can. My life has been busy since school started, so I'll try to get to her during the weekend. --Spottedwing 16:14, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thickened the shading and the tabby stripes. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 19:33, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 17:28, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Your tabby stripes are too few and far between. They also are too thick and they all look alike. Put in some more and vary their length and look; I know warriors are a different pose but you can look at the approved tabbies for reference if there are no leader tabbies approved. Your shading also needs to be increased, slightly thickened, and the transition then needs to be blended thoroughly. -- Bramble -san  23:00, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Redid the tabby stripes. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:03, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I like them now.Minnowclaw 01:40, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading and blend it in.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:46, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Added shading on her left side and I blended it in as much as I could. How does she look? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:49, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - She needs some shading under her chin. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:39, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 18:53, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Move it up so it's right against the chin line. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't really liking the neck shading, so I blended it in more. How does she look? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:37, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading.Minnowclaw 00:58, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to her as soon as I can. It's homecoming week and its making me busy. Please don't decline. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:32, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? Wow I say 'Hows this?' alot. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 21:02, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Done! How does she look? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 01:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good. Just a few things left. Add a few more tabby stripes on her haunch, but be careful to make it not looked cluttered in that area. Thicken and then thoroughly blend her shading; the shading on Cloudstar is a good example. Lighten her ear pink just a touch, and make sure they are triangular and blended. Add some tabby stripes and put shading on the belly area inbetween the forelegs and again blend the shading thoroughly. Put a few slightly varied colors of the same base eye color in the eye, to make it look more life-like. Not to boast, but you can use my fursona on my user page for an example. A few darks, a few lights, and a saturated pixels. Be careful on her neck shading; don't make it too thick, and make sure to blur it hard. More shading around her head; forehead, cheeks, etc. Again blur. Add some more tabby markings on her tail, as well. -- Bramble -san  02:44, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Added more tabby stripes. Fixed the eyes, did all I could to the shading without messing up the tabbystripes, added shading and tabby stripes to the belly, added face shading. Did I miss anything? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 01:03, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

All the shading is a little too light.Minnowclaw 12:44, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 15:53, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the neck is good ow, but on the legs and back and chest it still needs blending more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:20, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 22:27, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Needs it's shading thickened immensely and blended. Ear pink could be toned down, but it mostly needs blurred some. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better, but go back, it looks like you blurred the line art or added black marks.Minnowclaw 12:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be more... intense Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the lineart. But Sandy, i don't get what you mean by "intense" <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Sandy, but I think she meant that it needs to be darker. (Sandy corect me if I'm wrong.)Minnowclaw 14:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well yes, that is kind of what I mean. It needs to be not just darker but a little thicker and blur it really well so it actually looks like shadows on his pelt. Some good examples of how the shading needs to look are Shadepelt and Rushtail's image which is currently up for approval. (I can't think of any more off the top of my head, sorry) It's not exactly just darker; it needs to look like a part of the pelt. I really hope that made some sense. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Done. I tried to fix it... <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 13:30, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

There should be more shading on the legs, and you might want to add a tiny highlight to the top of the herbs. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:24, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Use-For-Whatever Blanks


I got bored and made these. I figured that there were reserves on most blanks, so I'm just offering these up to use for whatever. If there's an extra blank needed for something, and whatnot. I'd like to see what everyone thinks they should be, because I've got no idea. Suggestions on editing welcome. ;3 --Sandiwolf 02:46, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

do we have To-Be blanks? or something? they should have whiskers :) and maybe a line going in from the nick? I'm newsh so... Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 04:48, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

And I think the eye is a bit big, maybe the cat is to big as well? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:27, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think that the only blanks that aren't reserved by anyone are softpaw blanks. Ice throat  21  16:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Add some fur to the cat, or else it looks flat. -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda-Love 16:40, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think Minnowclaw has the soft-paw blanks reserved. Maybe they could be kit-mothers?

Oh and yes they need whiskers. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 21:14, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I forgot that Minnowclaw had the softpaw's reserved. But these look too small to be kit-mothers. They look more like young cats. I don't think there are any other blanks that aren'y reserved besides the kit-mothers, though... Ice throat  21  22:29, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I can add whiskers to them. If there's nothing you can do with them now, you could use them for something later. More cats might show up in the future series.--Sandiwolf 19:42, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Sandiwolf, this can't just be Use for whatever blanks. You need to chose something or take them down. What about sharp claws?Minnowclaw 22:59, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Or cave-guards, unless someone else reserved them already? I could check if someone reserved the sharpclaw blanks right now. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:31, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Shoot, sorry. There is already something up for that.Minnowclaw 22:49, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

I saw no rules against it, Minnowclaw. Correct me if I am wrong. But, I can take them down if there is no use for them. --Sandiwolf 17:08, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

No, your not wrong. There is no rule agianst it in my mind, but think about it, if it gets approved and we don't have anything for them, what do we do?Minnowclaw 12:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Echo has the sharpclaws up, and Ice said they're too small to be kit-mothers, and the only thing left is cave-guards, which I'm not sure someone had reserved. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 17:44, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Well there is a point in time I'm sure that we all will be looking for a time to maybe to improve some of our blanks. Maybe you can start looking ahead in that...-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:00, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

I withdrew my sharpclaws... these could be sharpclaws, if you want. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 13:34, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

On the shorthaired versions, the lineart behind the ear doesn't connect. Its too straight. These would look good as sharpclaws, though.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;cyan; background:red; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;">♥Shadowedheart♥ 19:49, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

They look like they've been lifted up from the front, if you know what I mean... maybe make the front legs longer, so that they touch the ground. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:26, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

They look very dog-like. Try making them a bit more delicate: smaller paws, less pointy muzzle and you need to sort the tails so they look more feline too. If these are going to be sharpclaws you need to replace 'Use-for-whatever blanks' with 'sharpclaw blanks' Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:08, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerpaw (SC) (A)- For Approval
Not much to say, I made him look like his kit version the best I could.  HA WK FI RE98  16:05, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Nice job! The ear pink's too bright for a brown cat though, and it needs blurred more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:18, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerstar doesn't have a kit version.... his stripes look much different than what you have here. -- Bramble -san  18:31, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Unless you meant this to be Tigerpaw (SC) in which case the stripes do look similar, but Bramble's right: Tigerstar's images have classic markings. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:52, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Dangit! *bangs head on computer* I can't do classic tabby. I might have to withdraw this.  HA WK FI RE98  19:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! Maybe I can change him to Tigerpaw (SC)! That would work, for Tigerpaw doesn't have a apprentice version.  HA WK FI RE98  19:08, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, Hawkey, it should be fine as Tigerpaw. But the ear pink still needs to be darker. Ice throat  21  19:44, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! I saw where Sparrowsong has Tigerpaw (A) (SC) reserved. Ice throat  21  19:54, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, *walks outside and screams* Okay, I will talk to Sparrowsong.  HA WK FI RE98  20:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

She said I can use it. :)  HA WK FI RE98  22:12, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. For the actual image, the ear pink needs darkened to a reddish color. There are plenty of approved dark-brown cats that are great examples. Ice throat  21  01:53, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Blur tabby stripes.Minnowclaw 23:21, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are fine. I've blended them the best I can, their just dark is all. Reuploaded.  HA WK FI RE98  00:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder and more... what's the word... I can't think so I'll say apart of the part. Sorry that I can't think of something better.Minnowclaw 12:07, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

That makes no sense whatsoever. Anyway, Hawky, if you make the ear pink just a bit more red, I'd be glad to approve this. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:30, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Pebblepaw (Ki) - For Approval
Comments/critisism? Hopefully this will turn out better than my cave-guard blanks... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:18, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Soo cute! I love it! But the shading needs to be blurred a little more, and it looks slightly dark  HA WK FI RE98  22:33, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Alright. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:23, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened and shading is blurred. Any other comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 23:07, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the pelt looks extremely unnatural, even for a mottled cat. It looks like a big huge swirl of lights or something. See Pebblepaw's apprentice pic for the idea of how he should look. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:33, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Ok. And I did use Pebblepaw's apprentice pic as a reference. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:08, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I doesn't really look like it. It looks like you moved all of the darker gray up to the head, and put the lighter gray, light-swirls all over the rest of his body. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:07, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Sloefur (D) - For Approval
There is shading, but it's hard to see...and what you can see it really messy...should I thicken/darken it, and blur it some more? I've blurred it over and over again, but Pixlr isn't doing much for blurring... Ice throat  21  00:39, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I'll add more shading soon...I should be able to get to it today or tomorrow... Ice throat  21  02:11, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Like you said your self, shading. It's easier with a black cat to do shading with the dodge tool, but if your more comfortable using the burn don't listen to me. This is also very dark. I know that it's not black becuase if I tilt me CP I can see the line art. But lighten it up a bit.Minnowclaw

I've got a busy next couple of days, and I won't be able to get on very much. I'll try to work on Sloefur when I can, even if I don't have enough time to reupload it, so please don't decline this. Ice throat  21  17:24, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I found that it was a lot easier to just start over than to try and edit it, because the shading that I did have was really messy and hard to work with. So...I know that the shading needs blended, but Pixlr doesn't want me to be able and blend it all very much...I mainly can't get the shading on the hind leg right. Any suggestions for what I can do about the shading on the hind leg, as well as on the midriff? Also, sorry I haven't worked on this in a while. Ice throat  21  00:46, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'll try to lighten the shading soon... (the shading looks too dark, right?) Ice  throat  21  00:54, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried to lighten the shading. But if I lighten the entire charart, then the shading gets ruined. And I tried to blur the shading as much as possible, but it's blurred to the max in pixlr. So...suggestions? Ice throat  21  21:40, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

No, this is great. Comments before approval? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:51, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

This may be my screen resolution but the shading looks a little blotchy... can you blend a little more? Apart from that tis good. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:30, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

I've tried to blur it some more, but it was basically already blurred to the max. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Whiteclaw (W)
this is Whiteclaw. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:29, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

She is way too dark.Minnowclaw 14:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok hehe he is way to dark XD so make he light. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 14:56, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

ok hope this is ok. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:13, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

The eye needs fixed... Ice throat  21  21:44, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to specify on how to fix the eye, as well as mention a couple of other things, so, I'll say them now. The ear pink needs to be more triangular along with the shape of the ear, blurred some more, and also needs to be more of a reddish color rather than a pink color. And for the eye, go to for a diagram of how to fix the eye. Also, the transition between black and white with the paw needs blurred some more, and add some shading on the hind leg. And maybe run the dodge tool over the tail a couple of times, so it's not too much darker than the color of about the middle of the shading. (Sorry, I know it's a lot, and if I didn't explain enough please say so!) Ice  throat  21  23:58, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK....done. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:11, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reddish, not purplish. Go to the red section, not up by where the purple and hot pink section is. Also make it a little fuller and less slanted. -- Bramble -san  02:22, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

well it's red I don't like red ear...did I miss things? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:40, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

The lineart at the bottom of the right forepaw looks thin compared to the rest of the charart. Can you thicken it? I think you erased some of it while you were coloring it in. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 21:31, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

There needs to be a lot more shading; I can't see any. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:27, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Fallowtail- For Approval
Wasn't home for a few days.-- Darkhallows My den 10:49, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Beutiful Darky!Minnowclaw 14:06, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

I agree, she's wonderful! But, there seems to be a couple light colored pixels on her far cheek and the nose needs to be pink. Also, the ear pink seems to be more circular than triangular. Fix these, and she might be approved! --Hawktalon 19:35, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Fix'd.-- Darkhallows My den 12:49, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - The eyes look... strange. Look at some of the approved queen's eyes. Then she should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:34, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Vinestar- For Approval
Poor Honeyfur. All she can draw are leader Charcats. =P Oh, well. What do you think of him? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Very nice, Honeyfur! :) Maybe thicken and darken the shading a bit. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 01:05, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedleaf (Ki) ~ For Approval


This is the best image I have EVER, EVER, EVER, EEVEERRR done!!! What do you guys think of Spottedkit? (Sorry about my abcenses. And Yes, they are school related.) -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:22, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

She's absolutely gorgeous. Only thing I see, is that the ear pink needs to be more inside the ear. It looks like it's on her forehead. :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 21:43, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! And the ear pink looks like the ginger on the forehead... I'll fix it. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 22:46, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There's a gray patch above her ears. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:30, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed and Reuploaded. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:20, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Not meaning to be a downer, but shouldn't she look more like her medicine cat version? -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:23, October 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * shrugs* Dunno how to make her look more like her medicine cat version. I think she'll be fine; depends on what Bramble thinks. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:05, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Oh, wow this is great! It looks so cool! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 16:51, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Redtail (Kit) - For Approval
Let's try this again I worked on the muzzle but not sure on what exactly more that I can do to it unless I make it bigger. Anymore suggestions and this time I will work hard to not let him go to waste like last time.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 03:53, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I honestly don't see anything wrong. :) Great job! -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 13:33, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I can't see any shading on the tail, but that might just be me. Other than that, great job, Shim! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:08, October 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * I made the tail darker to show that its behind him. Do you guys think I should at least add a light spot or keep him how he is?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:03, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about anyone else, but I never imagined him as being tortie and white. Do we have a book reference that he had any white fur? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:55, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Duskfur- (For Approval)
Echomist saw that I made this, and said I should put this up. How is it?

As for the image, gorgeous. There's just one problem; is Brindleclaw the first image that you ever put up for approval on here? If she is, you have to wait until she gets approved before you can post another image. Sorry, I forgot to tell you that... -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 13:58, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for tellingme, I'll wait then. :)--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;cyan; background:red; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;">♥Shadowedheart♥ 14:06, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Here, I put that it's temporarily withdrawn, because this pic is beautiful, and I don't want it completely withdrawn. When your other pic gets approved, put "For Approval" back at the top of this section. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:31, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Now that this is back up for approval, I'll comment on it. Beautiful, I can see nothing wrong. Great job Shadowedheart! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:12, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Beechstar - for approval
My first leader. Comments? -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 15:06, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

This is marvelous (wow, I don't think I've ever used that word to describe something :p)! It's a little too early to start the 24 hours, but great job! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:10, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with GB. No problems I can see =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:16, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Pity we only saw him when he was old and dying. He looks awesome here :) -- Bramble -san  18:08, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! I see nothing wrong. Great job, Echomist! Ice throat  21  18:20, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just one small thing. The eyes need different colors of blue in them to make them look less flat. You can look at some other cats with blue eyes to see what I mean. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:27, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

~Reuploaded.~ Thanks so much, guys! =) Moss, the eyes already had different shades of blue in them, but I darkened them so that they would be more noticeable... is he better? -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 19:19, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Yep! Comments before approval in 24 hours? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:57, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Featherstorm (Q) - For Approval
Finally I got her up! She took forever to do xD.-- Darkhallows My den 15:56, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Wow, there are no words to describe the pure awesomeness of this pic! Just a few things. One, there are a few white pixels in several places. Two, she needs ear pink. Three, several places seem to be.... blue, like on her tail. Three, there is a strait, unblurred line next to the tabby M that needs to be taken out. Finally, her hind paw facing toward us is a different brown than the rest of her body, and needs tabby stripes. Then she should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:25, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - So cool! It looks great to me, but I don't really do charcat that much, so don't listen to me. Listen to Moss. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 16:54, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Graypool (Elder) - For Approval
My first elder! Just so you know, the description said she had patchy fur so I guessed that meant she had a couple of bald spots here and there. That's what those pink thingies are. Constructments? (P.S., Check out my new siggie :D) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:39, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Good job. I'm not gonna say beautiful, because Graypool isn't exactly a pretty cat, but excellent job! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:44, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Very good! But on the patches, take out the lineart on the bottem of them and then blur the pink and gray together, and see how that looks. It might make it look more natural. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:21, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks, GB ^^! Mosswhisker, I did what you said, but I didn't take out all the lineart on the bottem of the patches because they looked, well, weird when I did. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 19:31, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you could make like a weird light pink, but not to light like those pinkish grays instead? The bright pink looks kind of unnatural in my oppinion.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:51, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it, but it won't reupload the new image, only the current one. I think my computer has a mental disorder *has a computer that frequently does not work properly* --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 00:19, October 19, 2009 (UTC

Reuploaded - It works now :D. Stupid computer, work for meh! Anyway, I lightened the... skin pink, lol. Comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 00:23, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Crowfeather (App) - For Approval
Hereeeeeeeeeeeeee's Crowfeather as that annoying little apprentice when we first met him. Personally I loved his snobbish personality ^_^ and spunk. You know he was determined to do anything.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:09, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I don't see anything wrong. Great job! :) -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 20:47, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Same here, and I completely agree with you about Crowpaw! He's awesome! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 16:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Shimmerpool! Darken the ear pink to a more reddish color, blur the highlights some more, and it should be ready! And I agree with you and Stealthfire, Crowpaw's awesome! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:01, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Ashfoot (De) - For Approval


Okay, so I'm starting at the letter A and working my way down I think ^_^ It's my new plan of action. Ashfoot was first so here she is i her most current form. =) Constructments please? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:07, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

She's fabulous! :D Maybe just blur the shading a tad. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 20:46, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Good. But the highlights could be blurred more. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:57, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. There are no highlights Hawkey, but I blended the shading the best I could. I don't think the blur tool will work any more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs blurred a tad bit more, because there's too hard of a line. Have you tried using a lower percent (somewhere below 50) highlight (on midtones/highlights) on the edge of the shading to make it a color in between the shading and the pelt, and then blurring it? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:06, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Goldenflower (E) - For Approval
Hey, I'm back. Sorry I wasn't on the PCA for a while; I was sorta busy. Anyway, here's Goldenflower with the ripped ear...comments? --Sparrowsong 00:23, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Nice job, Sparrow! Maybe thicken the shading, just a bit, and blur it. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:28, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Sparrowsong 00:41, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Screech(To-be) -for approval


Yup, Screech, Pebble' s brother ...Constructments?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 01:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Amazing! The only thing wrong is that between the hind legs, there's a gap that's colored in dark gray - it should probably be white, or transparent, like the background. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 12:24, October 19, 2009 (UTC).

Great job, Bracken! All I can see is what Echomist said, and that something happened to the lineart on the eye. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:17, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

May I join?
As an apprentice? I can't wait for your answer, I really love this wiki and I wanna contribute to it. :) Shigura 15:38, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Sure! I'll add you to the template, and Bramble or Sandy will assign you a mentor ASAP. Welcome to the project! -- ♫ Ec ho mi st <font color="Teal">Talk/<font color="Indigo">Contribs 22:32, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Tadpole (Ki) - for approval


Well, here it is. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:49, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

So cute! Just darken the shading a little, and maybe make the nose a bit duller; right now it's bright pink. -- ♫ Ec ho mi st <font color="Teal">Talk/<font color="Indigo">Contribs 22:37, October 19, 2009 (UTC)