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Feathertail (Alt.K) ~ Declined
In the manga at the back of Crookedstar's Promise, Feathertail is shown with a solid gray pelt. Plus, I cannot believe this is my third charart. At least it's not a tabby. xD. 23:35, November 26, 2011 (UTC)



Bootiful, Thistly~! Blur the chest highlight and shading around it. Elorisa  00:23, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Is the nose ment to be gray or pink? 00:29, Sun, Nov, 27, 2011

Gray. All I can see is, yes, the chest highlight/shading needs to be blurred, and the shading on the paws a tad, as well. :3 01:58, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

She's called Featherpaw in the manga at the end of Crookedstar's Promise. This needs to be an apprentice alt, which cannot be done at this moment. 02:06, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Declined due to reason above. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 03:11, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Longtail (Alt. E) - Declined
I wish for this to become the alternate elder of longtail image I hope you exept it.  NoneStar Will help you.

  Image approval-alternate elder Longtail 

Sorry I forgot the picture on the last on but here it is.  NoneStar Will help you.

The only time he's ever needed an alt. is when he was described as brown, I believe. I'm sorry, but I think this will have to be declined 01:56, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Again, Twi is right. This is declined unless you have a citation. Pleas read over the guidelines again, as I think you may be a little confused about how this project works. 02:31 Sun Nov 27

Shadepelt (Lo) - Declined
Snatched her. :3 Just in case if it's decided Shadepelt, Speckletail, Frostfur, and Loudbelly get loner images. ~Breezewhisker~ 02:55, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

I like this, but you should probably refrain from putting it up until a decision is reached. 02:58 Sun Nov 27

Yeah, wasn't quite sure if it was or not. ~Breezewhisker~ 03:05, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

For now, until a final decision is reached. I'm gonna decline this to make more space, but feel free to put this back up if we do decide on giving them lone chararts. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 03:07, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Velvet (Q) ~ Declined
Comments? 03:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Move the nametag to the middle of her chest and blur the shading a bit. 03:43, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rename it Velvet.queen.png, make the background transparent and add depth to the eyes by varying the colors from light to dark. Like I said on chat, it looks great! 03:45, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 04:07, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the nametag bigger and make it hang a little, such as in Nutmeg's pixil (that's the only one I can think of atm). The earpink is too bright. You can take it from an approved white cat (I'm assuming she's supposed to be white?) On the belly, there is a strip of lighter colored pixils, make sure the shading is consistant there, as well as on the top of the tail. 16:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Her description says silver, but I just tried to copy the color of her kittypet charart. And due to technical difficulties I can't post the new image until Friday or Saturday :/ 21:18, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the a smidge since the kp version looks abit lighter, and I agree with Ivy on the collar - 23:12, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I think the kittypet should be tweaked, because it looks white to me, not silver. 23:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs to be lightened, alot. And can you make the earpink not so bright? Looks nice, though. :) . 04:43, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading everywhere except the face. 04:58, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the belly shading and make the name tag bigger and more circular. Star shine ☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 21:21, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and lighten the yellow on the circle in the collar if you can please. 22:45, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Nice first image here Pouncey! ;) Dull the highlights. 01:19, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste on < that side of her around the paw farthest from us, the area around the collar, and the side of the face. :3 03:43, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Theres some dots of waste around the whole charart, but yes, it's mainley where Atelda had described. :) . 04:51, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Fallow, are you still working on this? 21:07, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh yes im still working on this, just havent been able to get to a computer all week. 00:44, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry it took so long D: 00:58, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

The tag should be more to our left, underneath her chin. 16:25, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the ear pink and the shading. 19:24, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Naw, naw. Teh earpink and shading are good as they are, Darken the shading a bit. - 19:48, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

The collar seems a little off... It doesn't look even with the rest of the head area. Try making it more like Nutmeg's, perhaps. 02:05, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look almost...purple. Color pick them from the kittypet image. 22:45, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful!!! Just blur the shading that's on the belly. Star shine ☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 22:02, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:59, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the shading is on top of the tail, can you switch that so it's on the bottom? Lovely. :) . 03:48, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Once again, Fallow... Are you still working on this? It's been a few days without an upload. 03:50, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I'm still working on this, I just want to see if I can get more comments before I reupload it. I want it to be perfect when I reupload 18:07, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

You don't need to wait until there's more comments. That just wastes time, and makes the leads think you're not working on it. 18:13, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the belly shading. And define the earpink. 20:30, November 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

This is lovely! Just darken the highlights(If you use them. If you don't darken the area where the shading isn't) 23:08, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

No, shes silver, so the highlights are supposed to be really bright. - 00:27, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 01:07, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the foreleg farthest from us. 02:02, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur where the shading meets the highlights. 05:30, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

The collar just looks off. Make it thinner and protrude from her neck so it doesn't look painted on. Also add shading to it and the tag, which should be more oval to make it look like it's hanging. Brighten the earpink and add shading to the eyes. 04:57 Sun Nov 20 Reuploaded And there are no highlights on this one. 05:28, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Move the tag over this way <--- a bit more, erase a bit of the collar lineart as it's on the thick side. Lighten up the shading near the base of the tail, darken the earpink color (I preferably liked it before you changed it, annoying I know, sorry!) and add depth to the eye by varying the colors from light to dark. Nice work! 05:37, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot and add a lighter patch (like a highlight, but not) to the tag. It's metal, so it would probably catch the light somehow. 05:37 Sun Nov 20

Reuploaded I think i fixed the collar... 06:35, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

There's some white leaking onto the collar at the top. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  16:48, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded   18:57, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Still there. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  05:01, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Nice job with the collar. 07:45, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

There's a really dark patch of shading on the back of the haunch near the tail; make it lighter or make all the rest of the shading darker :3 03:14 Wed Nov 23

And specifically blur the shading near the base of the tail. -- 02:44, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Fallow. Again. Are you still working on this? It's been about five days without an upload. 02:10, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Since Fallow has not uploaded, and it's been a week, I'll be taking over. 03:40, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Longtail (Alt. E) - Declined
I wish for this to be Longtails alternate elder version since he does not have one. NoneStar <span style="color: rgb(0, 77, 123);"> Will help you.

Unless you can provide a cite for a time in which he was described as a black tabby, this will be declined. 01:16, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Dapplepelt (W) ~ Declined
OA= Mousetalon and it needed to match the MC. Don't tell me to change stuff on the pelt because I put the warrior blank over Ivystripe's MC version! :3 Comments? 00:21, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Also, would this be considered tweaked or redone? Because its a whole new image but I just used the MC version under the blank... 00:22, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

It would be considered tweaked. I see nothing wrong anyways. (I'm glad you didn't make the same mistake as me, cheating by erasing the herbs... -.-) 00:36, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Erm no, this is still art theft, as you used my image and just put a new blank over it (what I was planning to do) You need to do all of this image yourself and it would be considered redone. 02:14, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ivy, no. This is art theft. Moonleaf did the exact same thing. Do it yourself, or it gets declined. 02:23, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh this is art theft? I'm sooo sorry!!! I had no idea! Just decline this. 03:31, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sadly, it is. Declined, by artist request. 03:35, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sol (alt. R 2) - Declined


Here he is! See, in TFW, he was said to be a mottled brown and black tom. So I made him. I know, i know, i forgot his tufted ears, i'll add those when i upload again. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:53, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be referring to him as a mottled tortie, though? He already has brown and black on him, and I think they said he was mottled as well (not sure, goes to check) Anyway, if he is already mottled, I think this will be declined, if not, it stays up. 19:07, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

But, a black and brown cat is far from the same thing as a tortie. If he is alredy mottled, fine, i'll take the mottles off of him. But how can a tortie and black-and-brown cat be the same thing? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:09, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'm saying he already has black and brown on him, they probably didn't want to name ALL the colors on him. I won't decline this, I want to see what the others think. And by the way, he needs mottles on the black as well. Smudge the black patches into his pelt. 19:13, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, give me a min. Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 19:15, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

If they wanted to name the colours, wouldn't they have just called him tortoiseshell?<font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Dark blue" >Hey Shelly.... <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="blue">Penguiuuuiiinnn..... 19:16, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, thats what i thought, thats why i added it to his trivia. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:20, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

 Reuploaded -Mottled his black patches, smudged his black patches into the bronw patches, and made his ears tufted. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:30, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Dark blue" >Hey Shelly.... <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="blue">Penguiuuuiiinnn..... 19:31, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded -Darkened shading.

Sorry Maple, but I think I agree with Ivy on this one. Well... if this stays up, make the mottles a bit smaller and more... what's the word... uneven I guess? They look to uniform right now, they almost look like spots. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  20:13, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno, we've had alts made for less. If he was described as a mottled brown and black tom, it's different enough from being described as a tortie in my opinion. However, wouldn't he be a rogue at this point as he's been attacking the Clans? 20:28, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

He wasn't "attacking" he was just snooping. Then Lionblaze found him, and brought him back to camp. So, i'd say he was a loner, THEN a rouge.

Yeah, but before that, during the book's prologues, he stated "let revenge begin" or something like that. He was obviously already plotting against the Clans, I really think that classifies him as a rogue. 20:33, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Do we know that was Sol in the prologue? It was never stated outright. Also, he's been causing trouble for a long while, so, he's a rogue. Simple as that. 20:34, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

'Kay, i'll change this to a rouge blank, give me like 10 mins, kay? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:27, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded-Changed blanks, took longer than i thought. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:15, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and rename the file to Sol.rogue.alt2.png. 22:18, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Could you blur the transition between the brown and black patches? 22:28, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the mottles a bit, it'll look more realistic. And blur the earpink a bit. 01:11, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think this should get an alt, for the reasons Ivy explained. However, if we do decide to give him an alt, I think that he would probably be brown with black mottles or black with brown mottles. It just makes more sense to me. <span style="">01:39 Thu Dec 1

I also agree. This should not get an alt, for the same reasons. That is basically a tortie. 04:03, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

This is pretty much what a black and brown mottled cat would look like. A dark tortoiseshell. ~Breezewhisker~ 04:12, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and remember Tawnypelt is a brown and black tortie. 15:12, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if it's staying, it needs tufted ears. 18:46, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that this shouldnt get one. Unless someone wants to make a fuss I think its declined... 21:51, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Awww, okay, the, i'll take it off his page(Unless someone already did.) I'll look for differ chararts to do. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:59, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hayberry~ Declined
This is my charart For Hayberry! Comments??

Hayberry has no decription, she gets no charart. 22:38, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Hayberry - Declined
Comments for Hayberry 22:45, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Do not post this again. It was declined for a reason. 22:47, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Molekit (Kit M.) - Declined
Any comments for tweaking or anything?? 00:17, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea what this image is for. Molepaw from NTP doesn't have a description, and Molepaw from OoTS already has a kit image. 00:21, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

..declining.. 00:31, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Molekit (Kit M.) - Declined
Any comments for tweaking or anything?? 00:17, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Molekit already has an image. You can't make him a new one, sorry 00:35, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hollyleaf (Alt.W) ~ Declined
I love doing chararts. ^^

Anyway, in TFW on page 268 she was descripted as gray. Argue if you must. ;) . 21:36, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

If you go add that to her article, and cite it, I'll believe you. =P 21:40, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Thistle... I just looked. That was referring to Cinderheart, not Hollyleaf. I have to decline this. If another lead disagrees, feel free to discuss. 21:41, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Lilykit (Ki) ~ Declined
First image with layers~! Comments? And yes, I know about the waste. I'll get it in a minute. Elorisa  18:07, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Lilykit has no description. Declined. 18:08, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh wait... when did that happen? Ah well. Sorry. 18:09, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Kate confirmed it on her blog. I checked the link, and saw it with my own eyes. This is cute, but kill the waste and darken the shading. 18:11, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

This is declined however, as Atelda reserved it and you did not. 18:17, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blackstar (Alt. L) - Declined
Comments? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 04:31, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Should he really get an alt for this? It's just leaving out his black paws. It'd be like leaving out tabby stripes, which we aren't doing, so would he really get one? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  05:20, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree; I don't think he should get one, nor should it be in his trivia. Saying "a big white tom" and "a big white tom with black paws" is the same thing; however, the former saves time. 05:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

About the tabby thing Pale, did'nt Whispering Breeze get one for being described with them?<font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="maroon" >Sky..... <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="blue"> Just...dust and echoes 05:28, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

What she means is if a tabby was described as solid. For example, Hawkfrost was described as a dark brown tom in all of the allegiances. He got no alternate; the Erins were just cutting down on the description. Alternates should only be made for a major change. 05:30, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Sorry, Scarlet. <span style="">08:20 Sun Dec 4

Stonefur Alt. (D) ~ Declined
I really hate the shading and the ear pink. >_< Comments? 20:33, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the ear pink tons. Make the ear pink smaller and center it as well. 20:38, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I knew that would happen. But I still dont like it and I blured over it a bunch... 22:12, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink color less neon/bright. Dull it. 22:32, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tryed to dullen it but I ended up darkening it....I had now idea how do dull it to be truthful... 22:44, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Give the eye some depth, not just one flat color. Blur the shading more, add some between the foreleg and haunch, and have less on the tail. 22:46, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 22:57, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I thought the shading was funny. And I did my best with the depth. Looks better now! 23:02, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink. <span style="">23:03 Sat Nov 5

Blur the shading a lot and thicken it. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:42, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs major blurring, fix that. 00:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the heading for you. Anyway, redo the shading so it conforms to the contours of his body and add depth to his eye, maybe change the color to match that image, which is where the alt came from. You might want to tone down you highlights, too. 01:00, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re-did the hole thing and I added the depth as much as I could. Comments? 01:43, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Shading still needs to be blurred a lot. 03:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured and blured but it doesn't look to different. Sorry you guys... 03:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I believe this needs to be renamed Stonefur.deputy.alt.png 03:48, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Want a really useful tip for blurring the shading so it looks natural? Take your blur tool, set it on "60", then blur the edges of the shading with a small brush, then get a slightly larger brush, use the blur tool, set it on "100", then blur where you smudged. You may have to do it more than once, but once it looks natural, then you're good to go! 05:13, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the earpink, and make it more triangular. 13:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded @Twilightheart I tryed but it just ended up with spaces and @ Shadewing I don't really know how to dullen the ear pink but...well I tryed! 16:22, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can help you if you want. 16:27, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

What with, Stoneclaw? 18:38, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

You don't know how to dull earpink? You just.. darken it.. Perhaps smudge the shading and then blur the smudges a lot. I do that sometimes. -- 19:51, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the shading worse...if possible... 20:19, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Do you need help with the shading? -- 22:16, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes plesae... 23:39, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading for you and blurred the earpink. -- 00:00, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Awesome, Snowwy. ^^ 02:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Just blur the shading on his neck.

Reuploaded Thanks for the help Snow.. And I used Ivystripe's thing. THanks for the help everyone! -- 15:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. -- 00:11, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I also darken it a touch. 00:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a bit. 02:57, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Other than the shading that needs to be blurred, this looks really great. :) . 04:32, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks. I actually blured it a lot to be sure. :) 22:39, November 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * ) Better. The shading on the tail just looks to dark, can you fix that? If not, I think it's okay. ^.^ . 23:00, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now that I look at it I know see that you are right. *dips head* Thank you for your comment. 01:23, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful, Sandstorm, dull the earpink. 03:16, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thank you. And changes not showing. Made very nice progress over the few days! I really love this now! 03:29, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the chest shading? 01:02, November 11, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I blured everything just to be sure. 01:37, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Shading still needs to be blurred more. 18:36, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Especially around the shoulder and neck. ;) . 21:23, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Did you smudge the shading on the neck.....? Smooth out the shading by blurring it. -- 12:12, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

I am gonna work on this soon but Snowwy I didn't touch it other than blurring it... Why Snowwy? 20:57, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe because it looks smudged :P Blur it out nevertheless when you get to work on this. -- 21:03, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred a lot. The changes aren't showing. Other then the shading I think this is good! 16:54, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Could you blur the shoulder shading a tad? 02:28, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded You say blur, then I shall BLUR! 02:56, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Still need to be blurred more. You can see where the shading and the highlights (if you use them, if not, than the normal pelt color), meet. Try and blend it. 18:39, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks like a blob. Please make it more triangular.

I think the earpink looks okay. There's lot of chararts with earpinks like that. 20:12, November 14, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I didn't touch the ear pink. The changes aren't showing >_< 21:48, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and make it fit into the ear more. Blur the shading/highlights and smooth them out considerably. <span style="">00:34 Tue Nov 15

Reuploaded I really don't get what's up with the shading. I blured it soo much! >_< 22:59, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

You can always use Gaussian Blur to blur the shading. Theres a Gaussian Blur on Pixlr, I think. 23:20, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

...What? But I used Ivystripe's thing and it normally works! 23:24, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger. 00:01, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I also blured it a lot. 02:40, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur 'em more. Also, this needs to be named Stonefur.deputy.alt.png. 03:26, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the neck looks uneven, can you smoot it out do it doesn't look so bumpy? :) . 03:46, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I renamed it. Can somebody help with the shading? I can't blur it anymore! 23:21, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

What program do you use? It should be easy enough to do it yourself. Smudge it and blur it. Also right now the shading doesn't make much sense. Look at this tutorial image and follow one of the warrior shading examples. I'd suggest the first one, as it seems the closest to what you have right now. <span style="">00:23 Thu Nov 17

I use pixlr. I already smudged it becuase somebody else told me too. 01:29, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

It still needs to be changed a lot. It really doesn't make much sense as it is right now. <span style="">01:32 Thu Nov 17

Well I did my best... But it doesn't make sense? It's a charart... 01:59, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Shading needs to make a charart look 3D and right now yours isn't serving that purpose. It doesn't look like you changed anything. Did you reupload? <span style="">02:03 Thu Nov 17

Lighten the shading then blur like it could save your life XD 18:51, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

I would say thin out the neck shading. 20:32, November 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I just re-did the whole thing. 23:05, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful, perhaps add a bit of shading on the tail. :3 00:24, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There was already shading there so I darkened it. Thank you for your praise 01:51, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think you use highlights... right? Just guessing. If you do, can you brighten the highlight on the haunch to match the other highlighted spots? 01:58, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Make the tail lighter, and darken the shading on it. Right now it looks all shading. -- 02:01, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yes, I use highlights. 02:38, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a triangle, 'cause right now, it seems like a blob with a small point. xD 07:57, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I am soo glad I re-did this!

Much better. Darken the feet and add a light area to the tail so it looks more dimensional. Make the earpink smaller and dodge it a bit. <span style="">23:51 Fri Nov 18

Reuploaded I just made the area on the tail lighter because it was already there. I leik this :3 00:29, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Did it specify which cat in the picture was him? I always though the front one (with amber eyes) was Graypool and the back one was Stonefur. If that was the case, this would need to be darkened and the eye color would need to be changed. How do we decide which cat's which in these cases? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  02:47, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm well I don't know. Leads? 17:36, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I have the book right in front of me. I do believe Stonefur is the cat furthest to the right, however, it doesn't directly state it. If I'm correct, this needs to actually be lightened. Throughout the book, on the pages where there are groups of cats, the order of the wording at the bottom of the page with the picture is usually the order of the cats in the picture themselves. We don't know this for sure, though. In fact, this shouldn't even be up if we don't know for sure which cat is which. 18:04, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

O.O whhhaaaat? 18:13, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Talon had an alt and Sharpclaw received one too assuming that the order of wording is the same as that in the pictures. Concerning the picture, there seems to be more of a highlight on the fore paw nearest us rather than on the tail. Nice job 18:26, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

So before and if I reupload, is this declined? 18:41, November 19, 2011 (UTC) Define and darken the shading and blur the highlights. 23:32, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded The highlight is on the tail and the paw. 02:21, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it doesn't really make sense for the highlight to be on the paw. Darken it to match the rest of the leg, and darken the hind paw that definitely should be in shadow. <span style="">05:01 Sun Nov 20

Reuploaded I made it worse >_< 15:55, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink triangular. <span style="">22:52 Sun Nov 20

Umm it is. That's the best I could make it without it looking creepy. 00:06, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looking creepy? I don't think earpink CAN look creepy. And it still needs to be a bit more even and triangular. It's a bit lopsided right now. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  04:29, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the top of the earpink is curved downward. And the shading on the tail looks weird to me. I'd shade it darker on the bottom, or at least at that weird spot where it's shadow and then really light.

Forgot to sign. ~Breezewhisker~ 05:12, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink back into the ear, and the shading still needs to be blurred. 07:46, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is it getting better? 00:32, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

It is getting better ^^ There is a dark spot on his tail where it looks like the shading leaked. Get rid of that and I think it'll be ready for CBA. 02:00, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the haunch highlight, I can see it layer out. -- 02:03, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :D 02:06, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me! CBA? 02:59, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

D: I'm sorry to interrupt CBA, but the shadings blotchy on the leg nearest us. I'm sure this'll be CBAed in right after though! It looks wonderful. 02:19, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There's nothing wrong with it.....:_: 02:25, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

I saw it as well. If nothing was wrong, she wouldn't have commented. I can still see a small, dark blotch. -- 02:31, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I triple checked an now it's gone. Changes aren't showing. 02:35, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

You still need to blur the shading a bit. Then it should be ready for CBA. 03:16, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear-pink and make sure it's constant; it looks a bit smudgy - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 21:24, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I didn't touch the ear pink too much though. 21:57, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more Wild  fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  00:42, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a tad bit more pink. 02:20, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Don't forget to sign, Sandstorm! Blur the earpink and make it smaller. <span style="">02:19 Sun Nov 27

Reuploaded I made it worse 21:32, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all the shading, then blur and pinken the earpink. 21:18, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Also make the earpink a tiny more triangular. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  21:27, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oh my....I hate this... 21:55, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Did'ya use highlights? If you did, blur 'em. Also, darken the shading just the slightest. 22:06, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded This looks horrible! And yes I use Highlights. 23:17, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be blurred and fit into the ear and the shading/highlights need to be blurred majorly. <span style="">23:36 Mon Nov 28

Reuploaded I just re-did most of the shading. Changes not showing. 00:03, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looking good, Sandstorm. Blur the shading on the front paw a bit, please. 21:26, November 29, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I also fixed some blured lineart. 21:33, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? 21:06, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but can you blur where the shading on the front leg where it meets with the unshaded parts? 22:13, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

You forgot to change the heading, Misty. :3 22:18, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blargh. I'm still thinking like an apprentice.. xD  00:53, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now it's the exact same color as the fur around it. 14:17, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a lot, and blended with the highlights. The ear pink should be centered within the ear, since some of it leaks down on to the shoulder. 00:54, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I can't blur the highlights much more. 04:02, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading, and center the earpink. <span style="">04:05 Sat Dec 3

Reuploaded This looks horrible! 04:15, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the highlight near the shoulder, it's a bit too bright. 15:10, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:51, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks like a lopsided triangle. 19:22, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Made it worse >_> 19:30, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. <span style="">08:01 Sun Dec 4

Longest thing on here.... Uh.... Blur the shading. I hate repeating things....  ~Regifloat222  Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 17:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed some blured lineart and some waste. 18:27, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sand, you had a month to finish the image, but you didn't. This is declined. Any user who does not have a main project and would like to work on this, it's fair game. 04:04, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

I've got it. If nobody minds. ;) I'll re-upload in a moment. . 04:06, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful. I'll archive this discussion, and you can start a new one. 04:08, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Mottlepaw (Ki) - Declined
If Breezepelt gets one, so does Mottlepaw. Yes, I know the pattern doesn't really match, but his apprentice charart will have to be redone anyway. Comments? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 19:20, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly when was Mottlepaw mentioned as a kit? I thought we agreed that we wouldn't give every cat a kit charart just because they must have been a kit at some point. 19:23, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The patches look almost brown to me, make them more black 19:24, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

@Shelly, he is Poppycloud's son and she got a queen charart, just like Nightcloud. If Breezepelt is going to get a kit charart, then so will he. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 19:27, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Breezepelt got a kit charart because he was mentioned as a kit in After Sunset:We need to talk. I don't think Mottlepaw gets a kit charart, as he was never mentioned as a kit. Only an apprentice. 19:29, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

If Mottlepaw gets one, then any cat who ever lived would get one, as they were all kits at one point. Changing heading to declined; if any leads disagree, feel free to voice your opinion. 22:26, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

He wasn't actually seen and/or mentioned, so no, he wouldn't get one. Breezepelt gets one because he was actually mentioned in We Need To Talk. They're two totally different cases. 04:10, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. 04:25, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Adderfang (Alt. W) - Declined
Comments? 20:25, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, he's already a brown tabby. Just because they elaborated to call him dark doesn't mean they made a mistake. 20:29, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Um... I asked on the talk page and someone, I think it was Ivystripe, said they were different 20:49, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, on the discussion page Wildfire asked if there was a majority difference between dark brown and just brown, and Ivystripe said yes. Sorry to barge in, I just felt the need to randomly put that in. . 22:13, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think this is a big enough difference. Ivystripe is a senior warrior, but so are myself and Shelly. If more leads think he should get one, then he will. In the meantime, though, it's two to one. 22:28, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

A dark tabby is still a tabby, as is a mottled tabby. This isn't really a difference, as Shelly already said, just justifying the shade of brown he was. If anything, his current chararts can just be tweaked to dark brown, since he wasn't mentioned as, say, a pale brown tabby or anything. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 22:31, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Just take the burn tool over the other images and make them darker. Sorry, Wild. =( 22:33, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I understand, if you need to decline this that's cool, but um... how come Bluestar gets all of her alts? 22:53, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Because she has different colors/shades. 23:14, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Not really because gray and blue-gray are the same, aren't they? 23:19, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

No...they are completely different colors. Blue-gray is more blue. 23:52, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't sure which cat you meant. My biggest problem is what necessitates an alt and what is just added to the description, such as Spottedleaf with her two page description? Actually, I might make a forum about this 00:25, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

A forum isn't necessary. Three senior warriors, as well as the deputy, have said this alternate isn't necessary. I'm changing the heading to declined. 00:31, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

>.> I meant in general 04:14, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, a forum is a good idea, Ivy. We could finally clear up what deserves an alt and what doesn't. Go for it. 04:15, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. Eesh, drama. 14:13, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt.W) ~ Declined
I talked this through with Atelda, and we both agreed she should get one, although we wern't really sure if the dark blue-gray queen in her character pixles were for the COTC mistake, since it didn't match the color, but if that turned out to not be the case and the dark blue gray queen WAS for COTC, we figured this warrior version should still be allowed, because when she was mistakenly described with the stripe on her head, she got one for a warrior and a queen and it was the same cite/reference/page what not I believe. . 22:53, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The blue-gray queen was from COTC, and she was a queen because that was the last rank she was seen in and she already dead then. Cats are shown with the last rank they held when they were alive when they die on the Wiki. She got a warrior and a queen for the dark stripe on her head because she was seen with a dark stripe on her head in the Graystripe Manga, when she was already dead as a queen and in the manga in Crookedstar's Promise, because she had been a warrior then. I don' think that she'd get a warrior alt. for her blue-gray description. I'm going to decline this, but if others have opinions, let them be heard. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 23:01, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Boulder did, did he not? . 23:04, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to point out. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 23:05, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I realized that after I posted. What I meant to say was, from what you said at the end, ''" I don' think that she'd get a warrior alt. for her blue-gray description." ''I have to disagree. Boulder is Silver gray, but he got an alt for being blue-gray in COTC, so why is Silverstream any different at all? . 23:11, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thistle has made a good piont. I too don't see why Blouder gets one and Sliverstream doesn't. 23:15, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly. It wouldn't be fair to Thistle if you declined this because others got an alt. for the same exact purpose. 23:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

When COTC came out, Boulder was an elder and he got a blue-gray alt for it. As for Silverstream, she did get an alt. as did Tawnypelt for her tortie and white description. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 23:28, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

You've got me. Unless somehow others have opinions? . 23:58, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Thistle, this is still really nice! :) - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 00:01, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. Sorry, Thistly, it's really pretty! 14:15, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sandypaw (KP) ~ Declined
O.O i'm not sure I like how this turned out... 17:42, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

We do not know Sandypaw's gender. Declined. 17:46, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

But if Honeypaw got one shouldn't Sandypaw get one too? 17:50, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

We can't give him/her a charart until their gender is confirmed. Honeypaw's was confirmed. Sandypaw's hasn't been. 17:52, December 6, 2011 (UTC)