Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Probably Worth Noting
Erm, hi. (afraid of treading in Cloudy's territory) Erm, I think that this may have something of note for you guys to deal with. It's the first three books in a single novel, but it also includes a shiny new short story apparently. So yeah... do with it what you will. 17:43, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, that'll probably go in the cover gallery if we can find both a front shot and a back shot. As for the short story, if it's a new one, it'll probably get a whole new page. Good fine, Shelly. I'd forgotten about that.. xD 17:46, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Woah, good find Shelly. 02:02, Sat, Feb, 18, 2012

I don't see why it wouldn't get a page. All the others short stories and plays have them.

Only problem is, it only exists in e-book form. Someone with an e-reader or at least iTunes needs to buy it and read it. 19:34, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

I could probably steal my brother's kindle and get him to buy it on there. 08:34, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Quote Nomination - Into the Wild
I think (hope) I'm doing this right or something. I found some quotes that I thought were good in Into the Wild, and erm, yeah. One of you Americans are gonna have to check the pages though, I only have the British version.

"Come on then! What's it like, living wild? Is it as good as you thought it'd be?"

Smudge asking Firepaw about the wild, pg 149

"Fire alone can save our Clan"

Spottedleaf givng a prophecy, pg 19

"You must have heard of the four warrior Clans that hunt around here! I belong to ThunderClan. The other clans are always trying to steal prey from our territory, especially ShadowClan. They're so fierce, they would have ripped you to shreds, no questions asked."

Greypaw explaining the Clans to Rusty, pg 28

"There's never enough to go round. If you didn't live such a soft, overfed life, you would know that!"

Bluestar about the amount of prey, pg 33

"All cats serve the Clan. Loyalty to the Clan is the first law in our warrior code, a lesson you must learn quickly if you wish to stay with us."

Lionheart about loyalty, pg 47

Erm, yeah. I don't really know what to say now. 13:14, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

I like #1 and #3. Can you try to find some more?

I think the quotes she has are fine, Chez. Anyways, Leopard, it doesn't matter which version you got the quotes from. Nowhere does it say it must be from the American one. I like quote three. =D 19:34, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Right, ok. I'll see if I can see some more because I'm bored mostly. And, Skye, it says somewhere in the rules that references and whatnot should be from the American version, but whatever XD. I added one I lied, I actually added two more, but I found no decent others. 20:28, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Those are for the references. The quotes aren't even mentioned in the guidelines, because that was my suggestion, and I couldn't be bothered to add it in/didn't think it mattered. I, personally, don't care which version is used. In fact, I support you using a version other then American. This website is not just American editors. >.> 15:57, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

I suppose, yeah. Well, personally, I like 3 the best. 08:15, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

I adore the last one! 01:08, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

I like the last one too. 06:39, 23, 02, 2012

Dawn ~ Quote Nomination
Okay! So, I found a few quotes for Dawn! Here they are:


 * "We still have our Clan. There is always hope."

--Firestar, page 4


 * "We will leave at dawn!"

--Firestar announcing the time of the departure of the Clans, page 205


 * "The cats who first crossed the mountains--whether they are still with us or live among other warriors--will always be honored by every Clan for their courage."

--Firestar talking about the cats who were part of the prophecy, page 333


 * "This is the place we where meant to find, and StarClan is here."

--Leafpaw's thoughts on the lake when she finds it, page 335

I personally like 2, and 3. Comments? 06:40, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

I quite like 2, 3 and 4 to be honest. =P 07:47, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

I like them all but I am leaning towards 1 and 2.

I like 1, 3, and 4. Nice quotes! ^^ 00:40, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'm having a rough time deciding between one and four. Both are very said during very key times in Dawn... If I had to, I'd choose quote four. 02:30, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Quote four would be great. 02:07, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

I like number 3 and 4. 07:22, 22, 02, 2012

I like #4 21:33 Thu Feb 23

Crookedstar's Promise ~ Quote Nomination
First nomination (Woo!). Found some quotes for CP. I can try to find more if necessary.

1. "No Mapleshade, you are wrong. I still have a Clan that I love, and am proud to lead, and now... now everything is precious to me here, in StarClan. My family is waiting here for me, when my ninth life has passed." Crookedstar ~page 508

2. "A destiny shouldn't be played with like prey." Goosefeather ~page 236

3. "Do you remember what I said? Do you remember my exact words? I can give you everything you ever dreamed of, power over all your Clanmates, if you promise to be loyal to you Clan above all other things. Do you make that promise? And you did! You promised! You chose to sacrifice every cat you ever loved. Your mother, your brother, your mate, and now your own kits: From that one promise, I could take them all!" Mapleshade ~page 481

4. "I want you to be the greatest warrior RiverClan has ever known-the greatest any Clan will ever know. Willowpaw is a sweet, pretty cat and I'm not surprised you're fond of her. But the sweetest traps are often the most dangerous." Mapleshade ~page 236

5. "You must promise me that you will be loyal to your Clan above all other things. What you want for yourself is nothing compared to the needs of your Clan." Mapleshade ~page 116

I like all of these personally.

I'm loving #3 and #5. They both focus more around the promise Crookedkit made; the main point of the story. 03:16, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I tried to include the promise, since it is the main plot I guess (Why else would the book be called Crookedstar's Promise?). I do really like #3 and #5 too.

My favorite's 5, personally. 06:11, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I like 5 and 1. 17:07, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

If I could only pick one, it'd have to be #5.

I like all of them ^^ These are good quotes. They tie into the book and the conflict. 02:26, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

<333 these quotes. 8D I like number 3 and 5. 07:31, 22, 02, 2012

I personally love number 3! But a close second is numer 5 :D 21:38 Wed Feb 22

I'm going to be the oddball and say I like quote two. It's not too spoiler-ish, and makes the reader want to see what Goosefeather's talking about. 21:23, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

I personally like quote 3, but isn't that the quote that's showed on like the back of the book. 21:28, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Partially, Rowan. I think that quote three is said later on in the book...after all of that. Considering I haven't read CP since I got it, I wouldn't know. 21:38, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Senior Warriors?
I come to you with an idea. I was talking with CinderxLion, and she said something that perked my interest. The project doesn't have senior warriors. No, not senior members, because that exists only in PCA. Here, they will be called senior warriors. Anyways, I was thinking...since Rainlegs and I can't do everything, and both of us are very scatterbrained when it comes to remembering things... I thought it would be nice to nominate one or two users to help us out. Plus, in case we ever have to take a temporary leave from the wiki, like I did back in December, it would cause a lot less chaos and confusion as to who's in charge.

I know the project's small, and a leader and deputy should be able to manage it...but there are times where we cannot do everything. They'd have the same roles as the senior warrior/s in PC. They can archive, CBV, and set up votes, among other small technical stuff. Now, I know that not everyone in the project knows how to do that...and if you want to know, don't be afraid to ask me or Rainlegs ( although you'd be better off asking me, since Leggo is worse then I am scatterbrain-wise XD  ).

Anyways, this is it in a nutshell. I'd like one or two warriors to help out. They'd be allowed to do the same basic thing that Rainlegs and I can do. I already have her support, and the conditions and all will be sorted out when I can sit down with her and discuss this fully. If you have any suggestions on qualifications, please, say something. =) 02:59, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I'd love to volunteer, but I am new to the project. As you said on chat, I would recommend Sweetflower or Stoneclaw.

I'd love to volunteer too. There are a few active users up for the job, and Cheshire, it's fine if you're new, you know. =P Cinder and Chez are other choices. There are only like, 4 active warriors in the project, you know. I know how to put up forums from PR, and it's not hard to learn. 06:10, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea, and I shan't volunteer yet, I'm not quite worthy as such. I think guidelines would be something along the lines of 'Must have been a member for X months, Must be organised, Must be active', and all that rubbish XD 17:10, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I actually do have to agree with Stoneclaw. Not a whole lot of users are active warriors to the project (not that they're not inactive) besides Leader, Deputy, and a couple of warriors.

I'd like to volenteer if no one minds. tehehe  I already have experience with the duties SW's have from PW. I think Cinder and Ches and Stoney would make great senior warriors. 8D 07:40, 22, 02, 2012

I'd also suggest 'Teldy if she volenteers. 07:57, 22, 02, 2012

I would suggest Stoneclaw and Cinder and DJ to be SW's, and if Atelda wanted to I would volunteer her since she is already a lead of a project.

I'd love to be a senior warrior, I think Atelda and Snoteclaw deserve it the most though. :D (NO offense to anyone else.) 17:32 Wed Feb 22

I think they should also have at least 3 nominations, quotes or for silver. 17:34 Wed Feb 22

(sorry for removing messages..I don't know what happened..never showed up..I am so sorry..) And Sweet it shouldn't matter the votes, but that they're active and devoted to the project. Also as long as they're active, they don't need to know how to put up votes or that stuff because they can learn. 01:23, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, Sweet, the number of nominations you suggested is a good idea. However, they can't all be quote nominations. I'd like at least one (two if you're lucky) to be for a silver/gold nomination, instead of just quotes. Getting an article to a higher grade is a lot more important then adding a quote. As long as they have at least one book nomination (which includes suggesting for the FAs), then they're qualified enough. They should also have been active in the project for a good amount of time too. I'll be talking to Rainy about this when she gets on chat later.

I'm glad to see that you guys are so interested in this. This is the most activity I've seen from PB in quite a few months, and I'm proud to be this project's leader. I hope we can get the technical specifications dealt with, because this looks promising. 21:27, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Skye. Quote nominations are easy. An actual article grade (silver or gold) is a lot more important then finding a quote for a book's article.

Anyway, Skye and I were discussing a few requirements in the chat. We decided that the new SW should be a member for at least two months, have at least one article nomination, and a thorough understanding of our guidelines and other rules. Does this sound okay to you guys? 01:18, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. One article nomination sounds great. 01:21, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Of course, as article nominations are hard to come by in this current time... I'd also be willing to go with two or more quote nominations. It's a lot harder to nominate a book for a status then it is to suggest a quote. It all depends. Of course, those who happen to have both would just be better off in the long run. 01:23, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

It is much harder to find an actual book to nominate since a lot of people don't have some of the books, but a quote is an easier nomination. It also takes a lot of time to actually be able to expand a book article and the cliffnotes and a publication list if necessary. Though someone who has done both is better off.

I know...But, I don't think one should become SW without knowing how to do book articles. I have a few books, but it doesn't really matter. Quote nominations are much to easy, so, yeah. 02:30, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps we could have one article nomintaion and at least one quote nomination, or at least three or five maybe quote nominations. I say this beacuse there are only so many book articles, and most of them are already at silver, but the quotes are kinda new. So yeah. 09:43, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

What Leopard says is true. There are only so many book articles that can be promoted to silver, but I think someone who is active in the project, can or could learn to put a vote up, participates in discussion, gives constructive criticism, and has made a couple of nominations book article quote or article deserves SW rights.

The only thing is it's hard to do book nominations because it takes like 5-7 months before a new book to be released, so it's harder to get a boko nomination because of how rare they are to snag. All I managed to do for an article is do most of the cliffnotes. 19:45 Fri Feb 24

Like, I'd like to be an SW and everything but I haven't managed to get a book nomination, so if we suggested one for gold and it became the FA would that count? 19:47 Fri Feb 24

That's my point, as most articles are now silver, maybe we could compensate on usefulness to the project, as such, and/or quote noms instead. Then I have no idea what we'll do when we run out of quotes too XD 19:51, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Sweet, it would. A nomination is a nomination, however which way you look at it. Rainy and I just want someone who knows their way around the project, as well as having experience in the voting process/what it takes to get an article nominated.

Leopard, usefulness to the project would count as well. Rainy and I know about the lack of nominations within the project. PB's near it's end, so, of course there would be a lot less to work on. 19:53, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I think the requirements should be:
 * 2 months in the project
 * Be active
 * Known the rules, guidelines and be able to work their way around PB
 * Have done at least 2-3 quote nominations
 * Nominated at least 1 book nomination, including suggesting FA's and them succeeding

As for the quote nominations though, their only minor. It's like saying to be a SW in PC, you must have put up a main quote for an article, so I don't think it should really matter. 00:19, 25, 02, 2012

Skye and I talked again, and decided on a few things... feedback would be helpful:
 * 2 semi-active or active months in the project (commenting on FAs, book/quote nominations, and voting). Active is preferred, but since PB is such a small project, it's not mandatory.
 * Either 1+ book nominations, or 2+ quote nominations. You won't need one of each.
 * A clear understanding of our rules and guidelines.
 * Know their way around PB.

So... as I said earlier, feedback is welcome. :3 01:16, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Outcast ~ Quote Nomination
I thought this was enough, but I can find more quotes if necessary.

1. A good warrior will always do as much as he can to feed the Clan. ~Lionpaw page 13

2. You will find your answers in the mountains though they may not be the ones you most want to hear. ~Rock page 60

3.Fighting is scary. If we have to fight another Clan, they won't sheathe their claws. ~Brambleclaw page 83

4. Cat were dead; something needed to be done. I can't tell who said this, can someone check? Page 105

5. What the Tribe needs now are strong, fit warriors. How can they defend themselves when they're weakened by hunger and constant fighting? ~Jaypaw page 107

I like 5. 04:03, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

I like 5 too. 06:45, 23, 02, 2012

I like 5, and 1 also. 08:32, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Signature fail. I like 5 the most.

Agreeing with the others. Five's looking good to me. 21:37, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

I like number 5 too. 22:10 Thu Feb 23

5 rocks. 8D 01:19, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Since everyone likes five...and I doubt we'll get any objections... CBV? 01:21, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Twilight ~ Quote Nomination

 * "I have no side. Cats, badgers in peace could live. I speak against attack, but my kin not listen to me. For many days now they talk of blood and revenge." 

-Midnight to Leafpool and Crowfeather, page 277


 * "I go to warn Clans, tell them what is coming."

- Midnight to Leafpool and Crowfeather, page 278


 * "Her love for him tingled through her from ears to tail-tip; she had to keep believing her decision was the right one."

- Narrator, about Leafpool, page 272


 * "Deep inside, you know what is right and you must follow your heart."

- Spottedleaf to Leafpool


 * "StarClan told me they would come for me soon. This is the fate they have laid down for me." 

- Cinderpelt to Leafpool, page 308

I personally like 1 and 4. Comments? 20:46, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to agree with you on that note. Although all of them are good ones. 21:16, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I like all of them, but I love 1 and 5 ^^ 21:23, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1, 2, and 5.

I like 1. 00:24, 25, 02, 2012

One and four sound great. 01:03, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Spottedleaf's Honest Answer ~ Quote Nomination
All of the quotes are said by Spottedleaf, since she narrates the story. No other character speaks.


 * 1.) You want to know what I think of Firestar and Sandstorm, don’t you? Okay. I’m not going to pretend that I don’t know why you’re interested—every cat in StarClan knows how I feel about the ThunderClan leader, but they’re too polite to say anything. After all, I’m a medicine cat. We can’t have mates or kits; our role is to care for the whole Clan as if each and every cat were our kin.


 * 2.) I’m sorry, you asked an honest question and it’s only fair I should give you an honest answer without clawing your fur off. The truth is, I love Firestar now as much as I ever did, and I’ll watch over him forever, knowing that he can never be mine. He belongs to Sandstorm and to ThunderClan. But my heart is his, and always will be.


 * 3.) The truth is that he and Sandstorm are happy, which is all that matters. I could wish and wish for things to be different, but they aren’t, and never will be. I would not change a single heartbeat of my life, nor all the time since, if it meant losing a moment of Firestar’s friendship.


 * 4.) But sometimes I can’t help wishing that I was her mother instead, standing side by side with Firestar to watch her grow. I will do everything I can to make sure that no harm comes to her, or to her sister, Squirrelflight, until the time is right for them to join me here.

Personally, I like number two. Comments? 21:26, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

These are all excellent. I agree with you on number 2, but I also lobe number 4. 21:35, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Forgot the period on number 2 but I like 2 and 4.

Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out, Chez.

All of them are great, but i like 2 the most. <span style="">00:30, 25, 02, 2012

I like 2 best I think, but as I said in chat, I think you could add a bit more onto it. The part right before it says "I’m sorry, you asked an honest question and it’s only fair I should give you an honest answer without clawing your fur off." and I thought cause of the whole "honest question" and "honest answer" part, it'd be good to add. Just a suggestion. ^^; 00:36, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea to me. *adds in rest of quote* So, would that change anyone's opinion on the quote? 00:38, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Nope, I still love it <3 00:39, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Why is Jaypaw Blind? ~ Quote Nomination
All quote are said by none other then Vicky Holmes, since this is written by her. I think some of what she says about Jaypaw are quite important.

1.) He didn't need to be able to see in order to be bold, curious, and wiling to fight for what he believes in, which are all vital qualities for a hero.

2.) Jaypaw is prickly and difficult, alternating between kicking against his blindness and insisting that it doesn't matter. He knows he has the same amount of courage and physical strength as any apprentice, and he hates the fact that he can't be the same sort of warrior as his denmates.

3.) Jaypaw is a blind cat who can see in other cats' dreams, a hero who doesn't set out with the best intentions, a stubborn, difficult, prickly character who needs to win the respect of every cat in the Clans to live up to the prophecy cast many moons before he was born.

The first one is one of my favorites. 8D 21:32, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Number one is also my favorite <3 21:41, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1 and 2.

As usual, all of them I <3, but 1 the most. <span style="">00:31, 25, 02, 2012

Number one is also my fav. 8D 01:01, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Paleclaw - Join Request
I'm attempting to try and start helping out in projects outside of just the PCA (*guiltguiltguiltguilt*) so can a join back here again? :) I know there's not much to do, but I'll do whatever I can. :P 22:39, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hello, m'dear. Welcome back to the project. Read over the guidelines if you need help. =P 22:40, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

After Sunset:We Need to Talk - Quote Nomination
1. Goodbye Crowfeather. I hope we don't regret that we didn't speak today.

--Leafpool saying goodbye to Crowfeather, pg 4

2. You did have a choice, and you chose to stay with them! Look, I shouldn't even even be talking to you. What if someone sees us? My Clanmates have only just begun to trust me again, and that's mostly thanks to Nightcloud.

--Crowfeather telling Leafpool to leave, pg 1

3. WindClan aren’t your cosy allies any more, not now Tallstar is dead. We’re as strong as any of the Clans now, and I think it’s time you found that out for yourselves.

--Tornear warning ThunderClan that WindClan aren't their allies, pg 3

4. You don’t have to tell me anything any more. We belong to different Clans, remember?

--Crowfeather reminding Leafpool they are in different Clans, pg 1

Okay, I like number 2 personally. Comments? <span style="">01:15, 25, 02, 2012