Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Archive 50

Question about Leafstar's images
Ok, I know I put my question in the incorrect place last night, where nobody could see it, so I'm just making a new section for it. On the Nominations page, I had originally put Leafstar's images down as needing cream (I DON'T see cream anywhere on her images), and somebody chnged it to just needing cream stripes. I'm confused as to how she has cream on her: I mostly wanted to clear that up, because I'm doing her queen image, but it'll be hard to make it match if she's not tweaked for the right thing. 16:07, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

There are cream blotches along her haunch, her back, her fore-head, her tail, her stomach, and her left fore-leg. I really like how this is, the cream is nice and soft. I never pictured her with cream blotches patched all over her, I think it was supposed to be much more subtle Night Fall 19:14, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like brownish-ginger to me. Berrynose is cream. 20:17, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well it blends into her pelt more and it looks pretty cream against the brown. It doesn't have to be like Berrynose cream, then it would look kind of odd and stand out too much in my opinion. 17:13, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like highlights to meWildfire 02:34, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Not to me. Highlights are brighter tones of the pelt, but the cream here isn't at all the shade of brown. I think Rainwhisper is right, if we did each cat with the same color of cream, then they wouldn't stand out as individuals. I think every cat that has cream on their fur has a different and unique shade of it. I think she's beautiful as she is Night Fall 02:37, July 19, 2011 (UTC) Well, usually when a cat is cream and tabby it means that their stomache and muzzle are totally cream, such as the white on Billystorm. I think the character art is nice, but the cream is unnatural. 19:37, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that they look like highlights. Maybe at least add a cream underbelly, chest, or muzzle, like said above? 19:03, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I just really hoped she gets tweaked soon, because while Tweak Week is going on and I can't submit anything, I want to try to get it as ready as I possibly can, since we have a lot of chararts to do, and I need the right cream color (fyi the cream on all her images ARE in fact different, so one has to be picked for all of them) 20:25, July 22, 2011 (UTC) I want to see it drawn more realistically, too. For once, the cover art on the super edition looks closer to her description. Is it on the list for tweaking? 03:25, July 25, 2011 (UTC) Yes, it is. 00:42, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Where is that list, anyway? Is it available to the general public? 00:38, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I just don't want to see this image totally redone...one, it's really beautiful as it is, and two, there's nothing that needs to be redone. I can agree that more cream could be added, but I hope that's the only thing that will be done to it Night Fall 16:52, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't want it completely redone. I just want to see cream added to her chest in a more natural pattern, like how we make any other chararts with descriptions like hers. Just look at Billystorm. He's described as a ginger and white, and we don't just have little white ripples in his fur. We made his chest, tail, paws, and muzzle white. 20:52, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

She doesn't have to be exactly like Billystorm. I think the image is fine as it is. You can obviously see cream on her fur - but yes, more cream needs to be added, and like Nightfall said, that's the only thing. 21:46, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

The Leafstar image is fine. There are many shades of cream, Daisy's cream is the most common. But, her image is fine.Moonstream 21:00, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't mean that there needs to be more cream. Just that the pattern of cream is unnatural. I honestly think the pattern should be the same as we do with every other cat described like she is (tabby and white, cream, etc). 19:00, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Why though? It excludes all uniqueness if she's just made like all the other cats are. Each cat on this planet is different from the other. Even if you google brown tabbies, you'll get brown tabby cats with thousands of different styles of stripes and shades of brown. Each charart should stand out, not just melt into all the others. Night Fall 23:55, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

I think waht they mean by brown and cream is waht she looks like on the cover of The Rescue. Wildbreath 18:15, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

No, I only added this because I'm an idiot and can't tell. 19:40, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Cats can come in patterns like that, but the stripes are lightened across the cream bits. So... personally, I think that's what we should do. It should be a pretty quick fix to lighten the stripes on all her images, yes? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I guess that would help. I'm trying to vision what it would look like in my head. I must say I do like the way she was depicted on the cover of SkyClan's Destiny (under the book jacket). Oh, well, though. :3 19:22, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

New Suggestion
I had an idea after looking at the page for Sunfish, who is only ever given a description by her appearance in the manga at the end of Crookedstar's Promise. If a cat only appears in a manga or isn't described in detail in a book but is shown in a manga, can we go with the manga description? I know there would be color problems, but we could just set the charart to generic colors and put 'tabby', 'totoiseshell', 'mottled', or something like that on the page. Just a thought. 17:46, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

It depends on how the character is drawn. 18:39, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

That's the point. It's not that hard to decipher pelt type in the manga. I really wish we'd use this as a rule. It's how we chose Tadpole's description, isn't it? I think so. Plus, I think my dad told me something about how you can convert black-and-white into color, although it won't be as high quality as if it was color to black-and-white. 20:52, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Have we decided on the manga fourm yet? Wildfire 00:59, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, but Ivy, can you try and do that? Then we might be able so see if it works. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 19:16, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Charart
What program do you use to edit the cats? 19:06, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

A lot of people use GIMP but others have been used like Pixlr I think. I used Photoshop Elements for my chararts. I hope this helps. ♌The Star that cannot Return  to the Heavens ♌ 23:38, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I for one use pixlr.com and I agree with Scarletwind (Who's profile I LOVE) that alot of people use GIMP. Also, remember to sign with 4 ~'s. Thanks! ♥Firestar♥Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 00:30, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Photoshop CS5. I'd prefer GIMP, tbh, but it doesn't work for me. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:22, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I using Gimp and for blurring Photo Filtre 9 (sometimes) Leaf-storm,7:44,August 10,2011(UTC)

I use Paint, Gimp, and sometimes Pixrl, but mainly Paint and gimp. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 15:07, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I use GIMP. GIMP is probably, in my and a lot of other's opinions, the best program to use. If you are unable to use GIMP, just give Pixlr a try. 16:28, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

So in conclusion, we all have different programs to make our chararts, so just go and try out and see what one fits your liking ;3 17:26, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well is gimp a website? Or do you have to download it, because of not having high speed this I will really enjoy trying to create/tweak images -.-

Yes you must downlouad it, if you want create cats. Leaf-storm,19:24,August 10,2011(UTC)

You can use Sumopaint too, but I've never used it before. şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  12:52, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Commenting
Hello. I was just wondering, are apprentices allowed to comment on the art? I know I can't do any art, but I wanted to at least try to contribute to the project. If we can't, that's fine, I was just wondering. :) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  14:40, August 11, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Of course Shady! Everyone can comment on art :) şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  14:48, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Tweaking images not nominated
Are we allowed to Tweak images if they weren't nominated? Cause there's some, like Jagged Rock Where Heron Sits that really need tweaking but they're not nominated. I wanted to do his image, but I don't know if I'm allowed to.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 20:12, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand why it wouldn't be allowed, as there are some that need it badly, such as Rippleclaw's that is being done now but was not nominated. If the leads decide no, they can gently decline it and you can do it next time. The worst they can do is that, you know :) 21:16, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Rippleclaw wasn't nominated? Oh. Alright then, I'll get working on Jag's image. ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:49, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Name
Hey, so i am now a warrior, how ever, My name isn't listed on the reservation table, so can someone add me, or can I put the cahrarts I wanna do, up even if my name isn't on it, I wanna Do Adderfang's Deputy image, and MothWing's kit image. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:32, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I put my own name on the table, as long as you add a new section for you and don't mess with others' sections, it's ok 21:38, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone else do it? Everytime I click 'Preveiw' Mintstar, ends up on a side... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:57, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Done 22:19, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 22:39, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Squirrelflight the firetruck......
So, I've noticed that Squirrelflight is bright red, and if I recall, cats are NEVER bright red. While I get that she's dark ginger, that DEFINITELY isn't the same as bright firetruck red. I honestly think we should fix it. I volunteer myself(even though I'm not the best at tabbies), but if anyone els wants to try, feel free. Here's her picture as it is now, by the way: 03:53, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, that's not even dark ginger. That's....really bright ginger. xD I think someone messed up when making it. I say it needs to be recolored / darkened. (btw, NICE TITLE. I lol'd) 03:59, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. She's been bugging me for a while, though. 04:06, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I see her red on my computer but on notebook is orange Leaf-storm,13:04,August 12,2011(UTC)

Dark ginger, to my knowledge, is kind of a brownish color, or a champagne red color. If I get one of mine done soon, I woldn't mind helping to work on one of her pixils :3 23:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The text....
is Green. And small. small and green, I adimit it is cool, but I cant read it at all, due to my eyesight. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:31, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Crookedstar's Promise Characters
Hi. I noticed that the characters that only appear in Crookedstar's promise don't have a charart. ♥Firestar♥Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 18:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

That's because we're doing Tweak Week. 18:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hello, (couldnt think of a title)
Hi, May i join this project?

If so i would like to post a few questions here,

Sol: i have a question about sol's images. On the cover of Long Shadows, sol has a tortoiseshell pelt that looks nothing like the picture on the wikia

Leafstar's kits: Will they get an image? im just asking, i know this isnt the right time since its tweek month.

Kind regards from 23:10, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you may join the project, and a lead will add you in. We don't usually go by the official art, and yes, Leafstar's kits will obviously get images. 23:42, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you in. You can look at the Guidelines and some tutorals to get started. :3 02:00, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Joining Request
Hi, I was wondering if I could join the project as a kit. Thanks! --Frosted Apple 15:22, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes you can, thanks for the intrest of joining, wait for a lead to add you, Welcome to the PCA^^ Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 16:15, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you in, and you should look at the Guidelines and some Tutorals. 02:04, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Can I be an apprentince? Its been WAY more than a month now 17:26, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving
I saw this discussion somewhere else, I forget where, but someone brought up the topic of just regular warriors archiving a picture after it has reached its 24 hours. I think we should do that, as it seems we usually have to wait for a lead to archive it, and I believe it was yesterday that we had about 40 images, 5 of them needed archived. Should we do that? I think it would be a great idea, as sometimes images get overlooked and forgotten. 19:24, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't really think that's necessary. If I'm able to come on I usually look for images to archive, and we have plenty of other leads who can archive too. Just be patient. ;3 19:51, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I achived all of these^^ but was to lazy to sign for every one. 20:48, August 14, 2011 (UTC)