Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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=Tweaked= Take it to the tweak page

=Discussion=

Time limit on Tweak Nominations
I've noticed how some tweak/redo nominations will stay up for a week (or more) without getting their three yay or nay votes. That's really not fair to the nominator having to wait that long for their nomination to be approved - especially when it's missing like one vote. I think that maybe after a certain time period, say 3 days, whichever vote at the time has a majority should be the automatic decision. So it would go on the list if the majority were yay votes. And if they're tied I guess it could just default either way, so long as all tied nominations would default the same way. It'll just keep those nominations from sitting there and the nominator from having to wait so long to know whether they can work on it or not. Breeze whisker  04:54, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

I think this might work. It would stop nominations from sitting there. 06:37, 17, 05, 2012

I agree with this...but the only question is for those that tie. I'd say look at the comments, if any, and that could determine if, but, for now, I think that they should just be approved and be done with it, or, if they really want the image to be redone, they can re-nominate it.

Have we come to a conclusion on this? 09:23, 06, 06, 2012

I believe that is fair enough. For if they tie, I say we just wait 24 more hours, then archive it/decline it. 20:06, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I think we should just decline the nomination when it's defalt, and they could just renominate it necessary. 06:01, 12, 06, 2012

I agree with the declining it automatically, but how long should the wait be before the votes are tallied? Breeze whisker  15:20, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking two or three days, but it could be more or less. Breeze whisker  15:21, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

I think 3 days/72hrs is good enough as a time. 05:51, 15, 06, 2012

Alright, that doesn't seem too long, so I agree. 19:03, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Have we come to a conclusion on this? 17:09, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Is everyone happy with 3 days? 00:54, 24, 06, 2012

I am, but should we put up a vote just in case for the other project members? {\ 14:42, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

I suppose a vote could work. x3 03:26, 30, 06, 2012

Tweak Nominations: I am going to sound like a total idiot...
Alright, as you all know, right now I am the sole overseer of the Tweak Nominations page, and I'm supposed to nominate someone to help me. This is going to sound so horrible, I know, but I haven't been active enough to know who would be the right person for the job to help me. There are so many new people, and it's hard for me to keep track, and I don't even know who would want the position. I know this is unorthodox, but members that are eligible and would like this position, let me know and I'll make my decision. This way, it'll be a lot easier to pick the right person who is interested. Thanks, and again, please don't brick me for not just picking someone XD  15:15, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

We respect your desicion Ibly, not everyone can do their jobs. :) I could probably do this, but if the featured charart vote passes, since I'm one of the users in charge of that, I'll strike my interest for fairness. :) 06:29, 15, 06, 2012

I'm interested owo I can do this but it's your choice. 06:38 Fri Jun 15

Don't want to sound too greedy or something, but I would like to try this out. '^^  20:06, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

I know I'm the new SW, but if I am allowed, I too would like to try this out. 20:24, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Man, now I'm not sure who I should choose...you'd all be good choices  15:31, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Have you chosen your replacement? 12:11, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Remember me? Anybody?
I've gone inactive. I had no Internet connection for a while, and before that, of course, I "lost my vigour" for the Wiki. So now, I'm going to try and be a little active, at the least. Just a reminder that I'm not deceased...

...yet. 02:45, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

I remember you, and that's fine. Understandable. 16:32, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

You can tweak/redo it because it's your image
Okay guys. As probably most of you know, people nominate their own image to be redone and tweaked just because they personaly don't like it. I'm sorry, but I don't think that's neccessary. If images are redone/tweaked without reason ("Your image, so you get to tweak/redo it" is not a valid reason), it takes up file space, and just adds to the tweak page.

Project Character Art is supposed to provide character articles with quality art, but I don't think we should be creating/tweaking/redoing art just out of the opinion of the OA.

So, I propose that all images should be redone or tweaked for a valid reason. 04:01, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't think I've ever voted for an image that didn't need tweaked/redone. Some that the OA's propose I just ignore if I don't agree because I don't want to get into the "it's their image, they can do what they want" dillema, but yeah, I feel that some images have no good reason to be done. I've seen wonderful tabbies redone only because the person is "better" at them, stripe style and a personal dislike of it is actually a guideline against nominating an image. 05:13, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Now that you mention it, I don't think personal dislike is a good reason for an image to be tweaked... if it needs to be tweaked then yes, it should be, but as Ivy said, there are great images out there that get tweaked for most likely an invalid reason. So I agree. 06:16, 09, 07, 2012

Some of mine, I redid because not only I knew I could do better, but there were also other issues with the images. I think that the OA should have //some// control over whether or not they chose to tweak one of their own images. However, there needs to be a limit as to what should be tweaked and what shouldn't be.

I believe it should matter on the people whom are voting - if a majority of the leads believe that it is fine, then it stays. I also think that an OA should have some control - and if it /does/ qualify for a tweak, the OA can add on more if they wish, and if it's necessary. 16:17, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Leaving
I'm leaving PCA and the wiki. I'll stay until Leafstar gets approved.... if she gets approved =( so... um... bye, I guess? If I do edit, it'll be to the mainspace. 15:33, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

No! Ivy!! You can't leave! I'll miss you too much! You better be active on WSW so we can talk! I'll really miss you, May StarClan Light Your Path!! 15:51, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Ivy... I will miss you so so so so much. Please edit a page or two on WCCRPW so I can see ya. ;) 16:20, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Aww... bye Storm, sorry to hear that. May StarClan light your path and hope you can rejoin soon. :) 00:51, 12, 07, 2012

D: Bye Ivy, we'll all miss you! If its okay i'm asking, why are you leaving? (Just curious) -- 10:06, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

It's fine, Raven =) something has just... come up in life that I need to take care of. 15:16, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Crowfeather alt
On page 308 of TLH and somewhere in Twilight, Crowfeather was called black. Should he get an alt?

Before you say anything, I remember Blackclaw getting an alt for being called dark gray. And this is pretty much the same only swiched.

If he does, I call it. 21:41, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

-sigh- Crowfeather is almost black. Not exactly, but very close to black. As you can see, it's in his trivia. Black and almost black is too simillar. 21:53, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

No, he doesn't get one. It's not two shades of color. And Bluestar, you need to stop saying that "you call it". It's first come, first serve, on all images.

Then it that case, nobody can claim images when they're nominating them for tweaks and redos. She called attention to it, it only makes since that she should have dibs. Breeze whisker  18:28, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

That's a different story, imho. You're going to fix an image, not claim an entirely new one. e.e

I dunno, I don't think it's that big of a deal. If Bluestar finds an alternate, then she should be the one to do it... Just my opinion. 01:40, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that I realize. But it's extremely redundant that someone "calls an image", when they're not even sure if the alt is able to be made or not. It's not that big of a deal, yes...but it's kinda annoying. Perhaps if we said, "yes, the alt can be made" and then they called it, that would be fine with me.

I think it's fine if she says she wants it, but I just wouldn't say "I call it"... Just my opinion. 19:19, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Ah yes, Cloudy, that makes sense. Ask for it after it's been allowed.

I agree with Cloudy, just saying I call it is like jumping the gun when you don't even know if an alt's necessary. 00:54, 12, 07, 2012

Agreed. However, if she shouldn't call alts then we should not be calling images when a new book comes out. e.e Because, just like it may not be known if an alt is necessary so calling it would be kinda redundant; same goes with calling out a image when we don't know if the character gets an image or not. 02:51, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Someone calling out an image before the book comes out means nothing. Like, say I "called" Nutkit, that means nothing, and if you were to reserve Nutkit before me, it's yours. I feel it's more like "Yeah, hey, it'd be great if I could have that". But you can't remove someone's reservation if they got it first, that's just plainly not fair. 21:45, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

I agree, I think we should mention this in the guidelines, just in case this happens again or someone gets confused. 07:07, 14, 07, 2012

Mistystar Alt Warrior
In the alligiences of "A Dangerous Path" and "The Darkest Hour," Mistyfoot is call a gray she-cat with blue eyes. I checked her page, and she didn't get alts for her warrior image, but her deputy leader did for the same discription. Wouldn't that warrent an alt? 17:47, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

I guess if her leader got it, then the warrior would. 17:55, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

I thought Bluestar's gray alts got removed? 17:57, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Nope, they didn't. 17:59, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Bluestar's plain gray alt got removed. 18:00, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Shouldn't Mistystar's plain gray alts be removed as well, then? 18:01, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the plain gray alts should go, but not the light/dark ones. Those are two shades, while the normal gray ones are not.

Guess who~
Hi everyone, I decided to rejoin- that is if you let me. ;D I've been lurking around for quite some time now due to the frequent talk about the wiki on Skype, and some of you may have seen me on the chat. So... Um... This'll be fun. c: 20:38, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

ilu Roo<3 20:39, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hai Roo, m'dear. Welcome back. <333

Welcome back, Roo<3. I knew you couldn't stay away<3 c:  03:26, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Ohai there. Welcome back. :) 07:10, 14, 07, 2012

Welcome back, Rainwhisper! =) 17:15, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back Roo~ <3 22:43, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Apprentice Tutorial: Paint.NET
On the apprentice tutorials there are some pictures of the tool bar in Gimp and Pixlr. But I also think that somebody should do that same thing with Paint.NET. A lot of people use paint and if they´re having problems they can refer back to it. Thoughts? 21:18, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

I think that there should be a picture of the tools for paint.net. Even photoshop and sumopaint. I remember there was discussion about having sections for each program on the apprentice tutorials - what happened to that? o.o 03:28, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I remember that discussion. o.e It would help if there were pictures of the tools for all (well, most) of the editing programs, and I still support the "revamp" of the apprentice tutorials. 07:12, 14, 07, 2012

I'm not sure what happened to that discussion...but I know Paint.NET was mentioned in it... I think. If someone who knows what they're doing (and knows how to use Paint.NET) wants to go ahead and make something with the tools and stuff on it, go ahead. There might already be something on the wiki, I'm not sure. I'm strictly GIMP, and I don't have the patience (nor attention span xD) to help with tutorials.

So we agree that somebody should do it? And maybe other programs because our members have a very wide variety of programs to use. 16:54, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

I say go for it. 02:24, 15, 07, 2012

So do I. We want the best for our tutorials. ;) 18:52, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hey guys
Wish I knew how to say this more gracefully, but I don't. As of tomorrow, I leave for camp until August 17th, which, in short, means that I won't have access to a computer/be able to edit for four weeks. I know a month is the limit for a lead before they're dropped, but I don't think it's fair to leave PCA leaderless for that long, especially since I won't know what's going on when I get back.

So, in short, I'd like to pass my leadership to Cloudy for that period of time, permanently, if you all believe that is best for you all and for the project. But I'll leave that decision to you guys. I trust you and I know that you'll make the best choice for the project. If you guys decide to restore me as leader when I return, I'll take the position as best I can.

If you do not, then I'd like to say, I have loved my time in PCA so much and I've seen the project grow and change through the two and a half years I've been a part of it, even more so that I've been granted the privilege of leading it for some time. I've learned a whole lot and made wonderful friends. I don't know my own actions, so I hope I've been a good leader and friend to you all and this project. And if I haven't, thank you all for putting up with me.

I love you all and I'll miss you and the project while I'm gone. See you on the 17th,

Scarlet

23:00, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

You're not leaving without a reason, I don't see why we couldn't just have a temporary deputy and restore you to your position when you come back. You're being incredibly responsible and I think you should be able to lead us again. Also, I hope you have fun at camp, whatever camp you're going to! 23:12, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

You have been a wonderful leader. You weren't afraid to spoke for what you felt was right, and you treated everyone as an equal, not to mention created beautiful art. I'll miss you, because I admired your sense of peacefulness and humor. I also agree with Ivy - if you want, you should be restored to your leadership once you come back. I hope you have fun at camp, 00:06, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm I think I like Ivy's idea. I see no reason why we couldn't do that. You do have good reason to be away, and it's just a temporary thing. Leader's can't be here all the time. But we do need someone to be leader and deputy while you're gone, so I like the idea of us having a new deputy while you're gone and Cloudy filling in for you. I'd personally be happy to see you back as leader when you get back from camp. 00:06, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I can't say I didn't see this coming, Scar. I'll gladly fill in for you while you're gone. Of course we'll restore you as leader once you come back. I wouldn't have it any other way. We'll miss you, and once you come back, you'll still be leader - I can promise you that. Shoot me a text or two if you can. <3

Bai Scarley. -waves- I'm sure you'll stay leader when you return, PCA will miss you while you're gone. Don't doubt yourself, you are a great leader and wonderful charartist. Have fun at your camp and may StarClan bring you back to us safely. :) 02:32, 15, 07, 2012

Scarlet, you've been a great leader for PCA. I don't see any reason for you to step down from your leadership. You've been an amazing leader - you have the leadership skills and patience many others don't have. You've proved that countless times - treating everybody equal, being always so friendly to the new users, and your open-mindedness. Plus, you try to put out the fire in a argument, not fuel it. You're a wonderful charartist, and nobody can doubt how much you care about PCA. Scarly, everyone has their inactive/away from the wiki times, and it doesn't mean that because you'll be away, you should step down. I wouldn't want you to step down - especially for what a great leader you've been, and how much you care about PCA - You always tried your best to lead PCA, and you've done an amazing job. But in the end, it will be your decision, and I'll respect whatever it is.

Have fun at camp, and don't doubt yourself. You've been one wonderful leader. <3 Bye, and may StarClan light your path, 04:34, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

My wifey ;.; Your highness, my heart shall ache for you. Even if is is just a month, I will think about you everyday. <33 *insert the rest of the melodramatic farewell here* Ok not really XP But really, you're an awesome and I await your return to leader. 06:53 Sun Jul 15

I hope you have a great time at camp :) I'm sure you'll return as leader when you come back, how could you not? You show the necessary elements someone needs to have to lead a project - which was why you were given the rank in the first place. We could never replace you! :3  15:45, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re-join request - Sweetflower
So, I've decided to go another round with PCA and try my best. So, could I please re-join? I was a warrior before I left. 23:39 Sat Jul 14

Welcome back, Sweet ^^ 23:43, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back, Sweet! I'll add you back in as a warrior momentarily! Just in case you've forgotten them, here's our guidelines. Have fun! ^_^ 23:46, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Rowan, congratulations on become a senior warrior too. :) <span style="">23:56 Sat Jul 14

Thanks. :) 23:57, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back Sweet 8D <span style="">02:35, 15, 07, 2012

Welcome back Sweet! :3 We've missed you! ^^  15:42, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I've missed all of you too! :D <span style="">17:48 Sun Jul 15

Temporary Deputy
Ah, hai there gaiz. As Scarlet suggested, I've picked a temporary deputy to help me out while she's gone. After much debate and decision making... I've decided to ask Loonie to become temporary deputy until Scarlet's return. =3

Congratulations guys, and I know you two will do a good job while Scarly's away. :) 04:36, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Congrats and good luck, Loonie and Cloudy, I'm sure you'll do great 04:45, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, guys! Scarlet left PCA in good hands. 05:11, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations guys, but if Scarlet is leavin gthe wiki. (Look below) Will she be your regular deputy? <span style="">12:28 Sun Jul 15

Nevermind, wrong person, *Derp moment* <span style="">12:32 Sun Jul 15

Confirmation
Hey all! This is just a message that I am leaving the wiki... forever probably... just to tell you not to expect me back here anymore. I'll miss this wiki, I'll miss all of you. I guess this is goodbye.

So... bye </3 05:40, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Aww I'm sorry to hear that :( Bye, and good luck with life! 05:41, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Bye, Woo, good luck in the future! <span style="">12:34 Sun Jul 15

By Woo. :( </3 18:49, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Possible images for Robinwing and Mothpelt
Hmmm...I really hope this belongs here...owo Anyway, would this quote possibly warrant kit and apprentice images?

"He knew she shared his concerns about Mothpelt as a leader. They had shared the nursery with him, trained side by side to become warriors, and seen him struggle to mentor a succession of apprentices." - and it's Robinwing and Maplewhisker, page 77 of CoTC.

What do you reckon? <font face="Arial" size="1" color="Blue" >Skt Omnia vincit amor 14:59, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

I would think this would warrant an image; it states that they were in the nursery and that they were apprentices.

So. 15:45, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I agree, it warrants an image. 15:47, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

I agree too. 17:29, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

As do I. 18:41, July 15, 2012 (UTC)