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Shattered Ice's affilation
So, the cite for his WindClan affilation is Tallstar's Revenge. But I have two counterpoints as to why we should actually keep it. Tallstar's Revenge talked about him tunneling, which could be in reference to what he did in WindClan's group before it was WindClan (back when they were Tall Shadow's group). In the TR preview, it even mentioned Jackdaw's Cry tunneling with him as well. Again, he was only alive when they were Tall Shadow's group. In Thunderstar's Echo, Thunderstar mentions something like that "when he was with SkyClan" and this was referncing to before they were called "Clans". So Shattered Ice might not necessarily be in WindClan anymore at this point. Now that we actually have Dawn of the Clans as a series, and the latest novella Thunderstar's Echo still lists him as RiverClan, I believe we should keep up with the most recent canon affilation. Also, the Erins have retconned things before, so this is not something new, even if I'm wrong about my first point. 18:44, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

He could have easily moved to WindClan after the events of Thunderstar's Echo. We don't know what happened after that and what caused him to be mentioned as a WindClan cat. There's no reason to ignore canon when we have nothing to disprove it.

Eh, yeah, I guess I can't really argue with that...

Agreeing with Jayce.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  20:12, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

SkyClan ancestors and StarClan
So what should we do with this now that SkyClan's Ancestors are back with the "original" (for lack of better word) StarClan?

I believe that they're not in StarClan altogether, I think they should be current StarClan, but their SkyClan Ancestors would be their past affie as it was its own "StarClan" until they all joined together. C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 #cat lady 03:16, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

I have to agree with that, that's what I was thinking. Seems like the best option, seeing as they were on their own for a while like their own Clan. Maybe temporarily should be put afterwards in parentheses.

But temporarily isn't the right word. They never had any intentions, as far as I know, to go back to the rest of StarClan. Temporary would be used in cases where there is clear intent to revert back to the original circumstance- such as Sorreltail temporarily mentoring Foxleap, while Squirrelflight ventured to the mountains in Outcast.

Ah, okay. That makes a lot more sense.

I agree with Cosmo about giving all the SkyClan ancestors their current affiliation as StarClan, and then putting SkyClan Ancestor as a past affiliation. 19:35, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

^^So do I. 01:13, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

^ yep.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  09:33, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

Anymore comments?Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  01:02, October 2, 2017 (UTC)

Since there are no more comments, SkyClan Ancestors will have this affiliations moved to their past affiliation and StarClan will be their current affiliation.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  06:12, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

What cite should we use for the StarClan one, though? I forget exaclty. The TAQ prologue?

Nevermind, I found it. Shattered Sky, page 265.

Just gonna archive this since as far as I'm aware, the work's already been done.