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Snowtuft (DF) - For Approval
Hi, my name is Iciloo and it's been a year since I did art for the project so don't yell at me. 02:00, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Erm...im not trying to yell at you in the slightest, but i cant exactly tell where your lightsource is coming from? And isnt the scar and the rip in his ear supposed to be on his other side? And i believe you may have colored the part in the mouth that's not supposed to be the mouth (i.e the triangle hole next to the tongue) sorry if im confusing you ;-; 02:07, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded:  fixed the scar and ear. for the mouth I used Tigerstar's blank as a guide so...and I don't know how you want me to fix the light source. I shaded it and I didn't use highlights so it'd be awesome if you specified what you meant. 02:23, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded: was suggested to use pure white so i did that 04:21, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

It appears somewhat that your lightsource is mainly coming from above the cat. I guess what i mean is maybe try only from the front of the cat, because the light right under the body on the tail tip is confusing 04:26, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Why would she need to change her entire source just because the light on the tail looks "confusing"? tbh, all she'd need to do is add more shading to the tail-tip to fix the problem. The source itself is just fine, barring the tail.

Define light on the legs and tail if needed :)

Mind defining the light and shading on his legs? I cant really see it. 17:58, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: defined shading and light on legs and tail and Cloudy asked me to smudge the scar so I did that 18:04, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Tbh, I can't really make out the shape of the shading, especially in his legs. Would you please mind defining it overall? 19:07, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

I can't define it anymore than it already is. It even looks a little too sharp to me. I didn't even know we needed a shape for shading ._. 22:04, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with burnt - try adding some depth 22:11, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Please read my above comment. 00:47, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Then add another layer of thinner shading at a lower opacity or something, Icy. I agree with Fox and Burnt that the depth should be defined a bit...

Re-uploaded: [whispering] i tried 14:30, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the shading a tad bit more? 22:25, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Do you mean blur it? Or smudge it? 00:39, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Blur 00:46, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Is this better? 01:33, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

The shading is leaking on the stomach and legs. Yes it looks great ^_^ 04:26, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 04:56, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Could you define the depth a bit more? 10:46, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 17:04, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

I looked up the colour of cats' pawpads and lighter coloured cats typically have pink pawpads. Can you make his pawpad pink? 01:11, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Yup! Also I kinda hid the scar layer and saved it wtihout noticing...I put it back. I c  i  l  o  o 02:35, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

My cat is silver and she has black pads... but anyway, with this source shouldn't there be shading on the left side of the main body?

No? Then that would mean there would be no shading. I c  i  l  o  o 15:25, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

The light is a little hard to see on the legs and tail, mind defining it? 23:01, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

There are pink pixels on his underbelly. 23:02, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

I think they are his scar, Burnt? 23:04, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Yup, it's his scar! But I forgot to put it under the shading layer so I did that, and I defined the light. I think I messed it up >: I don't know...I think I need to blur it more? I might have defined it too much. I'm talking to myself. Idk man. Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. I c  i  l  o  o 00:17, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

CBA?

Sorry to burst your bubble but you still have the little triangle by the tooth in the mouth next to the tongue colored in. That shouldnt be anything at all 00:01, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

I already told you, I used Tigerstar's mouth as a base. And I also used Thistleclaw's as well. So if that's an issue then those should be fixed as well. I c  i  l  o  o    00:03, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

I think you should ask jayie as shes the one who made the blanks 00:46, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Just thought I'd pop in and say that if Apple says it matches Thistleclaw, then there shouldn't be a problem because that's Jayie's image. 00:54, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

The mouth is fine. Tbh, it's really not worth arguing over- it's not even that important to the image. However, may I ask you to define the shading on the legs? This will continue CBA afterwards. 00:56, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: This is as much defined as I can get it to without it looking like it wasn't blurred at all.  I  c    i    l   o   o   01:17, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

The back leg farthest from us looks a bit odd. Shouldnt the light be on the other side of the leg with your light source? 01:36, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Erm, no, it shouldn't. It's in the right place?  I  c    i    l   o   o   01:54, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Eh it's fine tbh. Continuing CBA? 03:50, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Im really sorry but i cant make heads or tails of your lightsource. Can you please define it? I mean the light on your legs and tail dont make sense, and the shading on the back lioks out of place, like where there should be light theres just shading lines... 19:17, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I can see her lightsource just fine. Just because it's not overly defined does not mean it's not there. Burnt and I think it's fine, and I'm going to continue the CBA. Overly defined shading on white cats looks gross, or in Cloudtail's case, it looked blocky before I had to tweak it. This is a lovely image and I don't think the shading needs to be "fixed" or anything of the sort...

I didnt say icy needed to define their shading i said to define the light source. The head shading looks out of place as well as the legs and the tail 19:24, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

It looks almost the exact same as Tigerstar and many of the other Dark Forest images that were approved. Right now, it's 2-1 in favor of Icy's source as it is. I'm sorry, but I still don't understand why it needs to be fixed, when it's honestly fine. Everyone has their own shading methods and techniques, and no one is more right than anyone else.

The front of the face, or at least the forehead and nose, should be in light if we're assuming the light is coming anywhere above or to the right of the image, and there shouldn't be shading along the back or shoulders at all, where there currently is. Personally, I think the shading is over-blurred, because I can't even tell where the light on the legs is or if there's even shading on some parts. Harder-edged shading may look gross on white cats, but you can get a sharper edge than this and still have it be visually pleasing. 22:55, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Took Stormsong's advice - thanks to Trolly for helping me. Also, I know that the midriff shading needs a lot of blurring. I'm working on that right now - expect that in the next upload. That should be in like 20 seconds. dont yell at me i tried  23:46, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Where's the shading on her back paw furthest away from us? 04:55, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Non existent but now it's back. Is it just me or does it look like I messed something up? I didn't touch anything but the leg... 04:59, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Could you darken the shading just a bit? 09:32, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

I cannot see hardly any shading on the legs. Could you define that? As well as the tail please 14:28, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Darkened and defined shading. 15:26, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Also, I don't know why it looks so sharp. It looks fine in GIMP. <_< 15:27, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Looks better! It doesnt look that sharp to me. Possibly define a little bit of light on the front legs? And the head ? 15:29, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 17:05, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm...maybe just a tad more? The front legs look like theyre all in shadow and maybe for the head, add some more light on the muzzle and the top of the mouth, and around the eyes and i think itll be good :) 17:47, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: This is honestly the best I can do without making it look disgusting. 02:07, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

CBA?

Not trying to be picky or anything, but I really cannot see any shading on the legs. Could you try to define them more? 09:50, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

No, I can't. I've already stated this: I cannot define it more than it already is. I'm sorry. I'm trying to but I literally can't. 15:10, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Its not that hard icy. Add another layer and make it a bit darker of a color and use a small brush to add a bit of depth to the legs. And i still cant see the light on the front legs or barely any on the head. When you blur, do you use a large brush setting? If so i suggest using a maller brush. And the part of the tail thats under him should be in shadow as well. 19:16, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I'd appreciate you not telling me "it's not that hard". I know how to do this, Storm. I know it's not hard. It's a matter of being unable to do it. I've played around with the shading and this is as much as I can get. But as we speak I'm uploading a version with the tail shaded in - it was being really dumb and didn't upload at the same time. God bless wwiki's uploading service. 22:08, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Can you possibly add some shadow to the very backs of the back legs, and erase some shadow on the very front of the front legs? Looking good ^^ 13:27, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

@StormSongz: the light source is coming from above. Define the shading on the back right leg. ~Spotteh 13:32, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Spotted, you just repeated what Winter asked Icy to do. Please don't repeat comments.

Re-uploaded: Hm....I tried to define it but I think I might've gone overboard. 14:54, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Define light source on the main body...? I'm not picking, but he kinda only has shading on the bottom side of his body...

theres not going to be shading on the top if the lights coming from there? 19:23, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

What trolly said. And I can't define the shading anymore. Please don't ask me to do that because I can't. 22:37, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Not define it, but could you darken it in general? That might do the trick. 02:26, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 02:59, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

I think I read earlier in these comments that the light is coming from above the head? If so, could you erase some of the shading on the forehead/nose, as there should be light shining on there if the light is from directly overhead. Also, could you have the belly, shoulder, and back hip shading dip low, following the curve of the shoulder.belly/hip, to show the shape of it when the light falls on it? I dunno that I worded well. XD If that didn't make sense, I can do a redline if you want. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:58, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I did exactly what you said. And for the life of God, no one tell me to define the shading. I can't. 05:20, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

That looks good. :) Could you just bring the shading up a bit on the shoulder, against where it hits the belly, against the lineart? It'll show the shape of the shoulder better and dinstinguish it from the belly shading. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 05:22, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I think this is what you meant? I don't know, I'm really tired I can't think straight. <_< 05:27, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Er, most of you won't know me and that's okay, and you can disregard this comment because I'm not a member anymore, but I'd thought I share my two cents since I came across this and say that the scar on Snowtuft's belly shouldn't be so far down to the point where it's only crossing the belly fur, because fur doesn't scar and the fur the scar is covering looks like its hang fur and not covering any kind of skin. The scar should be unnoticeable on the other side of him or a little bit more elevated on the side the cat is facing us with to the point where its not just going across belly fur and instead across skin, if you get me? And if that scar is indeed touching the skin, the area there should be bare of fur and not just turn pink, because to me it looks like pink fur rather than a legitimate scar. 21:19 Sun Jul 26

Daisy (Alt.Q 4) ~ CBA
meh screw it, people seem to be in agreement and if its decided not to be an alt then this can be declined, or whatever (im aware of the white pixel dont comment on it) im matching jayces one which has yet to be posted, not him to me. 18:30, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

There's a black pixel on her back leg besides the white one. Please remove it. User: Dewdrops56/talk 18:34, July, 17, 2015

no. its part of the blank itself, i didnt touch the lineart. 19:53, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded for white pixel and shading tweaks 20:03, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Does she have the scar on her muzzle? If so, shouldn't it be removed, since the cite for the scar is from The Last Hope, a the cite for being called creamy-brown is from Starlight? 20:42, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Can you make her a tad bit lighter? Creamy brown seems it would be much lighter than this, considering her base matches light brown right now 22:23, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the main body? Pretty :3 00:12, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't she be a tad paler and creamier?

When you google "creamy brown" I actually get cats that look this shade, hence why I picked it. If you guys tell him to change it, I'll tweak mine as well.

Eh, but if this is what creamy brown looks like, Dawnstar looks way to light. I actually think she should be tweaked

I didn't say all creamy brown cats needed to be that color. I googled, saw a few, and went with that. That does not mean Dawnstar needs to be tweaked.

idk she looks like living chocolate milk, which looks.....creamy i guess 09:04, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Eh okay... You forgot to smooth out the shading on the main body by Storm

i didnt say i wouldnt reupload? just poiting out the colour 09:14, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

This is creamy brown. 13:35, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

And there's likely numerous shades of creamy brown. That specific shade is Latte or whatever; there's probably a specific shade of creamy brown that matches this. Stop trying to make every single image perfect down to the very last damn pixel. You're being extremely annoyingly picky now, and it's getting on my nerves as well as the nerves of other users. This shade is fine. 13:46 Sat Jul 18

Just saying, if you google creamy brown, you get shades that are the same color as this, it's fine. 13:54, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded i didnt even pick the colour  19:27, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the main body shading just a tad more? This is very pretty. 22:59, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded its probbaly not gonna get much smoother than this considering how i do my shading 21:52, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Can you add more shading behind the belly on the back leg? With this light source there should be some there 00:50, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

re uploaded 13:15, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe define the tail shading? Now that's a pretty kitty! ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 18:59, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

i think its ok, i dont want to ruin it but yeah ill change it if people want im not that against chaging it 10:56, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe just a little bit? It's moreso the base of the tail... to about halfway. I can see the shading on the tail tip just fine, but the other part is where it starts to play tricks on my eyes.

re-uploaded i think i just smudged it badly 11:46, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the shading in general? It seems too uniform as it is right now. 02:36, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading around her muzzle and the fur on her right shoulder. ~Spotteh 13:35, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

this ia how i always do my shading and i dont even know what you mean by uniform. ill define it in my next upload 18:38, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded 19:22, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Could you darken the shading only on the belly and the back leg (the cat's right)? Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:00, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded 11:13, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Awesome. :) CBA? Jayie  Unwritten words~ 15:45, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (DF Alt2) ~ For Approval
making charart on a laptop is not really my thing apparently. 03:42, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Define le Shading? 11:44, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes a bit- they're not as blurred on his alt warrior.

Can you lighten the shading on the legs?  I  c    i    l   o   o   03:12, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded yes 03:36, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading- I'm having trouble seeing it, especially on the main part of the body (like the stomach, side of the cat, ect).

Can you sharpen the stripes more?  I  c    i    l   o   o   15:54, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 03:18, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Expand the shading some more - I can't really see it. And the stripes should be sharpened a tiny bit more. Great job though! 04:38, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thnx 04:53, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

I think you sharpened them too much, or on too strong of a setting- I'm starting to see miscolored pixels.

Re-uploaded Did I get them? 07:59, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Not quite. Here are a couple more miscolored areas that I've found. The arrows indicate which stripe areas have them. I hope this helps, I'm so very tired and probably not clear enough.

Re-uploaded I hope that worked 08:09, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

I'm still seeing it on the largest stripe (on his entire image; the one starting near the base of his tail and going to his haunch), unless that's shading and my eyes are playing tricks on me?

Re-uploaded There were some. 08:55, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

The lineart looks a bit odd. The spikes just look a bit unnatural; I know they're pixels and all, but could you maybe do something to make them look a tad more...realistic I suppose? I did his StarClan before the image was nullified, so I can lend you a hand with the spikey lineart if you'd like. ^^ 08:11 Thu Jul 23

I used the linear art an approved version of one of Thistleclaw's images. Because of the linear art already being approved and used without any problem, I'm slightly hesitant to change the linear art on this one. However, if more agree that the linear art looks unnatural, I would gladly tweak the linear art. 09:48, July 23, 2015 (UTC)

The back stripe is way too thick. Can you lessen it a bit 00:06, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 04:53, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the shoulder/neck region. ~Spotteh 13:36, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 14:28, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Could you darken the shading on the belly? Your shading looks a little too blurred and undefined, but I'm not sure what to suggest to fix that, and you might disagree anyway. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:02, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I tried 06:34, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Hailstar (Warrior) - For Approval
does anyone remember when i did his kit version back as my first image lmfao 02:44, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Define the earpink and blue the shading on his paws. This is beautiful, Burnt! <span style title="Bush did 9/11"> I  c    i    l  <span style title="9/11 was perpetrated by our own government to justify the evasion of Iraq"> o  <span style title="Where was bush during 9/11?"> o   03:11, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped Thank you! 03:57, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading and define the shape of the ear pink. I'm having trouble seeing it.

Re-uploaded I tried. 12:41, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the paw shading. <span style title="Bush did 9/11"> I  c    i    l  <span style title="9/11 was perpetrated by our own government to justify the evasion of Iraq"> o  <span style title="Where was bush during 9/11?"> o   15:55, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

I think its fine 19:19, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

But maybe smooth out the shading a tad bit more ? 19:36, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, not quite sure if the main body shading should be smoothed out, but I think the tail and legs in particular could be smoothed out a bit more. Could you also humor me and lighten the shading ever so slightly..? By maybe... no more than 5% on the opacity bar? I'm not sure if it's my phone or my computer, but something's making this look darker than it should be... I think it's my phone.

Re-upped I tried. 03:23, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

I still think the shading on the paws should be either lightened or blurred. 04:39, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded i blurred them, I cannot lighten one particular part of my shading because of the fact that i leave all my shading on one layer- If i lighten it it will look very uneven i can assure you. Anyway, I hope this is okay. 04:51, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

If you use the overlay function on layers then just go over it with white itll lighten it. You dont have to i was just pointing it out 14:54, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

I know how to do it, i just said that it'll look quite bad tips I lighten one particular part of my shading. 23:06, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

I honestly think it looks all right on the paws now. 23:11, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make the ear pink look a bit more triangular shaped? Looking great, Burntclaw! 13:30, July 24, 2015

Re-upped i tried to define it, and earpink cannot be more defined than is now, for one I can see it very clearly and two, colors from the kit and three, the layer is above the shading. 14:16, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

I can't see the ear pink at all, honestly. Regardless of whether or not it came from the kit, if it has to be slightly tweaked to work with the blank (and by extension, your light source; the kits are infamous for needing this), then so be it.

I don't know - I think the earpink is fine. 22:36, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

It's not fine if someone isn't able to see it. Considering this isn't the first time I've asked on this image, clearly something might need to be done.

Re-upped Please bear in mind that I tried, and that I wouldn't object at all to tweaking it, except that sometimes this is how it can only look on an image with a damn color like this. 02:25, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

It's still kind of hard to see. Perhaps make the ear pink less blurred and have the lines of it more defined, that would make it easier to see. Also, maybe a line of shading on the inner edge of the ear - shadow would fall there since the ear bends in, and the outer edge of the ear would throw shadow onto the inner ear. All of my images have it, if you don't know what I mean. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:04, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Stonetooth (BP) (W) ~ For Approval
Eh those stripes :p 19:25, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a tad? 19:36, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Is there neck shading? If so can you define it, please? Nice! 00:48, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

The haunch shading kind of cuts the haunch in half, if that makes any sense. Since the haunch is raised higher than the torso of the cat, the shading should go around the whole outline of the haunch. Basically shade by following the haunch lineart around, and make it more circular, then connecting with the shading on the back part of the hind-legs, if that made any sense lol. <span style="">03:35 Sun Jul 26

Can you erase some of the shading on the far ear, it should have more light on it, I believe, with this light source. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:09, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Define ear pink, a little? ~User:Dewdrops/talk~ 15:11, July, 26, 2015

Re-ups I redid the shading cuz' i was a bit sleepy when i did it yesterday ^^ 18:31, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Can you dull down the shading a few ticks? 18:48, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

And could you blur it some more on the front legs? <span style="">19:34 Sun Jul 26

Mumblefoot (W) ~ For Approval
Yay! My first official charart :) I'm so happy ^^ Thanks again, Icy :) 13:01, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Wow...this is very impressive for your first official image! Could you lighten the shading on his back and his tail just a little bit? Very, very nice!! <span style="">13:07 Sun Jul 26

Reuploaded :D 13:14, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

This is awesome - can you define the head shading? 15:01, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Didn't I tell you all she was awesome? Just blur the shading on the tail if you can. :) 16:16, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

And blur the shading on the ear farthest from us? Great work, Winter :) <span style="">19:37 Sun Jul 26

Since you've already got the skills, I'm changing the heading to 'for approval' and promoting you to apprentice ;) 21:38, July 26, 2015 (UTC)