Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Marshstar (L) - For Approval
Here he is! Wild fire  20:46, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Darken the shading a bit, make the ear pink fill the ear, define the scar on the haunch. Darken the nose colour as well. Night shine  20:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail and the haunch on the left (my left.). Looks good! :) 21:01, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  21:11, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking my advice oh and make the scars on the right front paw longer and possibly a scar on the tail Sandstormrocks32 21:40, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add a touch of shading by the edges of the inner ear to make it look a little less flat, sharpen the scar on his flank, darken the shading under the chin and add shading the under part of the tail. Scarlet wind Step into the Light 01:24, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You don't necessarily need to add shading on the earpink, but smudge the pelt colour into it with the smallest brush possible. He doesn't have a scar on his tail, so you don't need to add one. Blur the shading and darken it a bit. 03:46, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the bottom of the haunch closest to us. Apart from that, it looks pretty good!- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 07:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  19:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear oink then I belive it should be ready 22:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  22:35, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading :) 20:07, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 22:01, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:29, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the bottom of the scarred haunch still needs a tad more blurring.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 01:07, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

And the shading on the chest. 01:16, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:43, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

The nose is gray... 00:42, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

The nose should be gray. Blur the haunch shading and smudge the pelt colour into the ear. 01:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. The haunch scar too. Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think the eyes need some shading as well. 00:28, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

blur the tail shading. 00:32, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Wild  fire  01:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the face highlight.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 07:06, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  01:13, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

On the hind leg the shading looks odd, so smudge or blur that just a little. Also you could darken the scar on the hind leg. Darken the eye color and this will be perfect. Good job At  el  da  02:15, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the bottom of the un-scarred front leg. The haunch highlight could do with some blurring/smudging, too. This is cool. I think it should get approved in not too long.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 09:23, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt colour into the ear, and add some depth in the eye by darkening the bottom pixels. 00:22, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink 12:54, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took the earpink from the deputy charart so I'm going to leave that Wild  fire  15:07, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, especially on the haunch. 19:59, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the middle of the tail, the scarred front leg, and scarred haunch. Those three problems mess it up quite a bit, especially haunch light. Go pretty much blur crazy there. This looks good, apart from my suggestions.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 23:51, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, and smudge the earpink into the ear a bit. 22:44, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  22:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Either lighten the whole thing, or darken the highlights and shading. 14:22, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 22:18, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:11, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is wonderful, I see nothing wrong. 01:19, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch. 02:24, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on the tail a little 03:27, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you could shade the area where his haunches meet his left leg and his chest between his legs, since those areas are likely shadowed by his legs. :) Fawngaze 23:33, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  15:17, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading and the shading on his front left leg (his left :3). 18:34, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bit on the haunch. 82.42.59.123 19:13, June 14, 2011 (UTC) (Dovewing145 not signed in)

Blur the shading. Sorry, I know it was said, but I can't help it! :D 19:34, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the scars. ~ Mis teh ~ Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:11, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch. 06:56, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

The red is where you need to blur where the highlights meet the base pelt color/shading. The green is where you need to darken/add shading. 17:53, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

More highlights on the face 00:17, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. His left hanuch shading really needs to be blurred. Oher than that I like this :3 20:54, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 15:17, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes 67.237.233.17 02:23, June 26, 2011 (UTC) (Wildfire not logged in)

Reuploaded Sorry I haven't been on Wild  fire  20:33, June 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * points at picture* Errrrrmm.... Blurr the haunch aaaannd..Tats all I got xP --

Smudge the ear pink some more. 18:50, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add more shading. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  16:58, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading a ton. 02:24, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone with Gimp please blur the haunch Wild  fire  00:05, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

I blurred it. Add shading and a pixel of white for shine to the eyes. -- 00:40, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blacken the eye lineart and blur the highlight on the tail.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:24, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 18:05, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Especially the shading on the haunch. 18:26, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading on the eye. 19:38, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:02, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Use the apprentice tutorials to see how leaders are supposed to be shaded. If you have added shading, darken it. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  17:58, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:01, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading more. 16:52, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can't blur it anymore. Wild fire  22:01, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? 22:51, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the back. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:57, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink more. 13:46, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

The chest and haunch highlights look like dots; make them larger. You might want to see Nightshine's tutorial on how to do shading on leaders. 21:41, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  00:29, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

The two scars on the leg are thinner when compared to the others. Are they supposed to be like that?

Yes, I think so. Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  17:36, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the shading on the haunch a bit more and I think this'll be good! Great job! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:23, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  21:19, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink into the ear more. 23:52, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  16:02, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! One thing, the haunch highlights look...a tiny bit blotchy. Try blurring them a little bit more. =) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  01:07, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Blur the edge of the haunch highlight. 16:04, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  22:26, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading with the highlights at the haunch. and blur scars a bit. 00:17, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I know I've said this before, but I looked through all the images to make sure I was looking at the right one, and I only saw shading at the bottom. Add some on the back, neck, and forelegs. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 14:51, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Look at Nightshine's tutorial on how to do shading. Here's the link: User:Night shine/Tutorials. 22:43, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

1. okay 2. I have shading on his back and paws but I'll add to the neck 3. I used a different tutorial than that Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  01:50, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlight on the chest lighter, it stands out a bit. 23:42, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights on the tail look a bit awkward, maybe extend it a bit to go to the tail tip. 17:44, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, seriously, this thing has been on here since May. It looks fine. Can someone either approve or decline it already? 23:04, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Nobody reserved it so I thought I could do it. But I messed up the torn ear. Sandstormrocks32 16:53, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, not bad, needs some work;


 * 1) one make him more golden colored, like his aperentice image is, this is more a horrid yellow-green


 * 1) number two

You might want to copy the red line that was done for his image that was up before this one;

copy the colors for it too


 * 1) three

Darken and blue the earpink some more and make it smaller. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 18:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks but it might take a while becuase I'm trying to replicate it. So it might take a while but i am working on it. Sandstormrocks32 18:31, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Almost done... 21:30, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Darken the shading, and lighten the earpink. Blur the stripes as well. 22:18, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

(and smudge if you want) Wild  fire  22:27, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured the striped as I could 22:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this Tigerheart.warrior.alt. 22:40, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes more evenly and either add more or make the current ones thicker. Desaturate the earpink. 23:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I did as much as possible but it was really hard to make the stripes thicker and blur the stripes but I did my very best 23:09, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded i made the stripes bigger and i changed the ear pink. I hope the changes show! 02:01, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Run over the stripes with the smudge tool to give them a sort of "point". Darken the belly/legs. 20:00, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Make the earpink smaller. 22:00, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded When I reupoad my computer says I have to rename it and I can't do anything about it so I keep having to change the name in someway. 22:47, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Well, you can still upload it onto the same image and keep the same name on the wiki file, even if you rename the file on your computer. 22:50, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded The shading was driving me crazy! But i still have to change the name. I don't know what to do. And it's when I'm inserting the picture. 23:46, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">CBA?! 75.72.59.54 02:08, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The stripes look kinda pasty and the highlights don't go through them. It's like the stripe is over the highlight. Stretch the highlight down the tail rather than leaving it on the tip and darken the shading. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:28, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">MUCH better, blur the pink a tad, do what Scarlet said, and whoever said CBA, that is for the leads to do, not so random person, to do. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 08:16, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">okay 1.go over highlights again and 2.to Reupload the charart you click on it then you click on the little box thing in the bottom right corner then you scroll past the two pictures of your cat and click on 'Upload a new version of this file' and find it on your computer Wild  fire  11:45, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The stripes need highlights/shading too. 21:53, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded @Wildfire I clicked modify and I had to do the same thing 22:58, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Its too light. Are you sure you copied the colors from the apprentice alt? 23:40, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I got it from the red line one but I'll darken it right now

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded Sorry ^ that ^ was me. I darken the whole thing now 00:10, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Now the stripes don't have shading. 00:14, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I put some more hightlights and shading 00:19, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the highlights some more, darken the shading a tad, and blur the stripes. 01:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes and the shoulder and face highlight. This looks great, Sandstormrocks.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Could someone blur it on GIMP for me please? (Sandstormrocks32 not signed in)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I would blur it for you, but I don't have GIMP. 20:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I can help you. Imma talk to you on our userpages. 22:25, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I blured as much as i could but could somebody blur on GIMP please? But I did darken just a little bit. 22:48, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Ok reuploaded for you. I blurred the stripes, some of the shading, got rid of some misplaced pixils, and erased the waste around the erased part of the ear. Hope I helped :) 23:00, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Darken the highlights, darken the shading (I can't really see any) darken the stripes a bit and define them. Night shine  23:18, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Make the ear pink smaller. 00:33, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Looks much better with the highlights and stripes blurred. Blur the shading on the bottom of the tail, and make the earpink a tad smaller, as Squirrelflame advised. Blur shading on the front paw closest to us. This is awesome! :)- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:54, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">OMG! It looks awesome! Darken the shading. 11:24, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I'm having the worst time ever with reuploading! :( 20:52, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The highlights are still too bright. It makes him look shiny. Also, darken the shading a bit more. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:54, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reoploaded I fixed the reuploading problem 23:33, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes and make the shoulder highlight more oval-shaped. 01:59, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded  02:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur and darken the highlights. 20:20, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded Never mind I'm still having trouble with reuploading 22:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">From above. What do you mean you clicked modify? Wild fire  18:12, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this 'Tigerheart.warrior.alt' 19:19, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">@Rainlegs Sandstorm is having a problem w/ reuploading I'm trying to help. you can join in on her talk page if you have any suggistions. Wild fire  21:24, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I fixed all the misplaced colors and stuff. @ Wildfire thanks for the help with reuploading the problem is now fixed 00:40, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this Tigerheart.warrior Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 03:45, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Correction, name this Tigerheart.warrior.alt, As Rainlegs stated before =) 20:32, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The highlights are too light; darken them a bit, and the highlights look kind of greenish on the face... 22:40, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I don't know how to rename it. Is it possible for somebody else to change the name? Oh and when I press backspace it makes me go back to the previous page 23:12, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Upload the same file, then name it "Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png". Then replace the old image with the new image. That's how you rename it. 00:45, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and make sure to put the "delete" tag on it saying it's a duplicate and an admin will get rid of it. 01:35, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks kind of blotchy. 20:28, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to change the name but I dont think it's wroking too well 22:41, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pale, center it, and blur it. Add shading. Blur the stripes. The highlights are too bright and need to be blurred. And there is blurred lineart on the right foreleg. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  02:01, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the tip Mintstarr. I also fixed the other misplaced pixils 23:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Better. Try to blur where the highlights meet the actual pelt color and/or darken them. :) 02:51, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured as much as I could and i darkened the highlights 14:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job!! You might just want to blur the earpink a bit more, and darken the legs that aren't in front. At el  da  00:52, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did that and I don't think the way Wildfire told me how to do it isn't woking too well... It keeps reuploading the same picture. Is anybody having the same problem? 01:42, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I am, too. Just upload it twice everytime you need to reupload it, and tell people that the correct image is the one under the 'current' one on the file page. 02:43, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't understand like, half of that but I'll try to do that next time. 03:13, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights are way too light, they look kind of greenish. 00:37, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I did what Rainlegs said to do, and It worked but it's not showing and I reuploaded it like 3 time and it didn't work. But it is under the "current" one on the file page. 00:57, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the entire thing. The colors don't match the apprentice pic anymore. Also darken the shading, and sharpen the stripes around the shoulder/neck area. And MAYBE get rid of the highlights, as it still makes him likke a bit too shiny, but that's up to you. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:50, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

And the earpink is kind of blotchy, fix that. 22:17, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded To dark? I don't know what I was doing... So comments? 22:54, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is still blotchy; And the highlights are still too light and too small. 23:00, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I sort of got rid of the hightlights becuase they were making him look grennish. And I ended up re-doing the ear pink and. 00:11, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The changes don't seem to be showing... 00:18, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, he is brown make him golden Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 08:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Does he look better now? 21:15, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful! Blur the tabby markings, please. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 21:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks really blotchy, though. Define and redden and blur it. 23:36, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's under the current one on the file page. Just to let you know...

Hmm...the shading in the back needs to be blurred a bit more...or if there are highlights right next to the shading...the different shades/highlights should blend together a bit better...I know that sounds sort of confusing...but just try blurring the back shading. Wow I'm starting to ramble ;P Otherwise...this is pretty good. :)

Yeah, blur the highlights and shading. 21:58, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yeah I can't really blur anymore than this... 00:12, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

You might want to have more then four little spots of highlights. Where's your light source coming from? 21:04, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Well the light source is between the tip of the tail and the ear.Somewhere between there or in tha general area... 23:18, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. A lot. And make them bigger. And darker. xD 23:19, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. It fills up the ear too much. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 20:20, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. The ear pnk is too angular at the top corner. 02:27, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:54, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, it's looking much better from when it started! The earpink's a bit too red right now though. Lighten it a bit, Also take the eye color from his apprentice image. This is looking great! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 19:05, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks too big. And blur it too. This is a lot better! 16:26, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Why does ear pink have to be so hard... 17:41, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink and blur the shading. 20:25, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a tad, and make the earpink more triangular, along with lightening it, making it more pink and less red. Maybe add a highlight to the ears? They look too dark to me. This is great.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:40, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the tip, Kittycat 14:50, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

I love this character art! I suggest that you maybe lighten the part of the tail that faces upwards and maybe the tip of the un-torn ear? It seems as though the lighting is coming from above in some parts so.... Oh! And maybe you could darken the back paw, the one that is less visible and isn't really "facing" us. Since it is under Tigerheart's body or on the otherside it should probably be just slightly darker! Fawngaze 23:28, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Very odd request but I think I did what you wanted 15:28, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh Sandy, I don't wanna sound mean, but this whole thing, not right. The highlights need to be more circular, and only on the face and haunch. The shoulder highlight needs to be ovaly, while the tail tip is obvious. Shade the back, legs, tail, mid-back to underbelly, and stomach to chin. Smudge and blur the stripes, and desaturate the earpink. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:42, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Though I did do the shading I just darkened it and put the highlights differently. I don't really know what ^that^ means so I did nothing to the ear pink... I'm not the best in engilsh class 02:45, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot. Reuploaded 

I think this is great and I really like it. CBA? . Darkhallows   Enter the cave?

I dont think that was actually Darkhallows, just someone using her siggie, but either way, darken the neck and mid section shading. 04:00, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded You do know that it's the second one on the file page, right? 14:58, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

There are some speckledy bits above the torn ear - erase them. Also, make the earpink pinker. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 15:42, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Are those things gone? 16:26, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Some markings look more blurred than other markings. Blur them all again? 19:37, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the markings, earpink, and shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:27, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I have blured 14:27, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur it more, and make the earpink smaller. 16:43, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more neck shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:14, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller and more triangular. 00:34, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Curse you ear pink! 16:25, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Can you lighten up the shading? This seems way too dark. If I'm wrong, then sorry. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 18:21, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's your comment 17:14, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading more? 17:29, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I can't blur it anymore then this... 15:45, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, this is great! I see nothing wrong with it. Bluestar11796 01:41, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This is beatiful! CBA? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 10:40, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the interruption, but the tail highlights don't match with the body highlights... 19:04, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded done. I think I did what you wanted 21:48, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and thin out the shading. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  17:00, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  19:32, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs to be lightened a little and the haunch highlight needs to be a little more.. circular? x3 02:26, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Circularerised? Whatever, done. 15:13, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Add a small highlight to the tip of the tail, or just brighten it. 04:01, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I brightened it 14:46, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading by the jaw, stretch the shading up to the tip of the tail, and move the highlight on the face onto the muzzle. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 19:27, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tryed my best with the highlights 00:14, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thin the shading more. It's touching the highlights too much. And blur the stripes. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:51, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the bottom of his arm closest to us. 14:42, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Man I can't do much more to this! Arg! But sorry I was away; I was camping 03:05, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the highlights are still too bright. You seem to be having problems with them. Do you need any help? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:54, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded No. But I think I got it now 16:30, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks blotchy, blur it more. 16:49, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blured. Man I wish this would get CBA'd! I've been waiting and there isn't anything for me to do anymore 01:08, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thin out the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:00, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger and more round, it looks like just one streak running down his side. Also desaturate the earpink a bit and blur it. 13:43, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded FYI it's the second one on the file page. 16:25, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png. 21:46, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the highlights more. 21:50, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thin the shading; it should not go that far from the back. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:08, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tryed tha shading again. 18:07, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fix up the ear pink; make the bottom of the triangle more flat, it's sort of angling down to the right. Maybe lighten it a tad. 18:29, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Done 18:41, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think you sould redo the shading/highlights. It looks really inconsistent and needs to be blurred. 01:00, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the highlights don't flow unto the shading well. Perhaps fix that and center the earpink a bit more. 15:01, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the front ear torn instead of the back. That's how it is on his normal Warrior. And the ear pink is REALLY red. Desaturate it a bit. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:42, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yeah can someb body help the back torn ear? I don't know how to fix it..... 15:35, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Idk how to explain it...use layers, and copy the old ear off. Maybe you should just redo it... 16:08, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. 20:58, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 22:49, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink a bit. 23:43, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights -- 00:51, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:43, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

>_< Yes I am I was just having a hard time posting. And I can't blur it anymore and I even blured it on Gimp to I can't blur anymore than this. But I did my best 00:11, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Erm..

1. shading looks inconsistant; wheres your light source?

2. highlights look really bright and out of place

3. earpink looks WAY too bright and saturated; de saturate it more

4. blurr earpink too

5. shading need more blurring

Sorry if Im pressuring you 8| -- 00:50, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a little bit. Moonstorm88 15:32, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sandstorm, do you want me to take over for you? I heard the kit system went bye-bye :P This is seriously taking a long time 8I -- 16:45, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't mind waiting as long as I get it done. I am working very hard on this. And the light sorce is between the ear and the middle of the tail. And I did everything as best as I can. I really think it's good it's just that people keep asking the same things and I can't do it anymore! I will continue but please keep in mind that I am trying my best 16:54, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Mmkay, just telling you that its not a problem asking for help. Aaannyywaaaayysss... darken the earpink and the stripes look a bit rounded at the tip~fix that please xP -- 17:07, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Stormfur (PH) ~For Approval
Here he is! A while ago, I put this same thing up, except with the old prey hunter blank, and it was declined because the new prey hunter blanks were being worked on. So, comments?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 08:49, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The mudstreask looks a bit....strange. Blur it more, and also blur the shading. 10:19, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Good job with the eye! And the mud is as red as the ear pink. Make dark brownish. More highlights on the tail 14:15, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Make the ear pink fill the whole part of where the ear indicates. Make the mudstreaks a little less uniform and make them go kinda crazy on him, so it looks more natural. 14:21, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly and bottom of the tail. Also, Darken and smudge the mud-streaks to make them look a little more natural, Like Ivystripe stated before. 16:16, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The mudstreaks are red! Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 17:08, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Stormfur.ph.png. 20:11, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and darken the shading. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 22:40, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The mud streaks could use some work. You should make them a more brown-ish color, as opposed to orange-red. And you should tryand blend them into the fur-color more too. Shade under his head and the ear farthest from us. Fawngaze 22:00, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Changed mud colour, blurred shading, darkened shading, added more highlights onto the tail, added shading in the places Fawngaze requested.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:15, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

The mud still seems a bit red, try to make it a bit more of a pasty brown and darken the shading a tad more. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:21, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the brown. — PercyJackson101  &#124; Talk 14:55, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the mud that ran over the lineart on the back :] 19:57, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Try making the mud streaks browner. And the earpink is a little too pink. But good job. Shadewing  So unlucky we are... 00:18, June 26, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

'''Reuploaded. '''Yes, I made a completely new one. Oh yes, and Sandstormrocks32, for the eye, while I was making the first one, I stole a copy of Brook's new prey hunter image, and uploaded it into the art program I use(Adobe Photoshop) as well as my Stormfur one, and zoomed into the eye on both Chararts, and copied the eye style from Brook. I remembered how to do the eye for the second image.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:25, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mud color just a bit, change the eye color, it looks red. Add shading on the head and legs. Nice job! 22:26, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the mudstreak parts I circled more narrower and longer. They look like big blobs. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 00:24, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Smudged most of the mud, and added some streaks to his face.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:52, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Better, but some of the mud is still in big blobs. Good job, though. Shadey  Iro Ni! 13:32, June 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

To much mud and redden the ear pink 19:03, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink color is fine; just smudge it. :3 02:34, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''You mean smudge the earpink so it looks like a gray tuft of fur is going up into the ear? (see top of section for my reuploaded ear). And I think the mud is fine.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:08, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make the mud smaller and sharpen or do something with some of the mud, it can kind of blend into the pelt. Also put/ add shading on the head, and legs (make the legs darker, head lighter) 19:57, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:39, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the mud on his face. -- 09:03, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Did you get all the colors from his cave-guard image? The fur looks kind of too light, but good job! 17:59, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I redid it.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:53, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, Kitty! Can you darken the mud please? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 02:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Also, add some mud streaks along the back and legs. 22:30, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

And redden zee (the) earpink. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:13, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink less purple and darken a blur the mud. also, is there any shading on the mud? If not, add some. It looks kind of funny since the charart has shading, but the mud doesn't seem to. Good job though! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

The Mud looks strange, and darken the shading, fix the earpink. Nice work! 16:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 'I redid it again''. But I think this time it actually looks good :D. So, comments?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 02:21, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and define the earpink. It looks better now! 22:09, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mudstreaks. This is looking nice. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 23:17, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I think I messed up the mudstreaks :(- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 02:51, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the mudstreaks look just fine. They actually look natural. I'd say maybe blur the ones on the tail only a tad. 06:53, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred and smudged tail streaks and made eye less red/orange.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 02:44, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should make the mud a bit smaller, and I'd define the shading more (I.e. lighten the highlightsand darken the shading) Looks great! 00:49, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights more. Its hard to tell where the shading is. 22:37, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working this? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 14:08, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Lakeshine (W) ~ For Approval


My first no-kit image, I know, I know the earpink looks werid, I nade this image on my laptop, and I couldn't get the earpink to look right sooo I just made it look as best I can.nComments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:08, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur or smudge the gray patches. -- 02:17, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Try to blend the gray and white together a little more. It looks a little spontaneous. Try blurring it again, maybe? And make the highlights a tad bit more visible.( Sorry, edit conflict. That's why I put the white and gray thing. ) 02:21, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading, smudge the patches into her fur, add/define shading on tail, and when you fix the earpink make sure to make it bigger ;) 02:35, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmm reuploaded, changes not showing. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 07:02, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Don't know if it's me, but the earpink is like, slanted. Also I can't see the shading. Add shading and fix earpink Paulmer 12:11, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! Paulmer, no you're right. The earpink needs to stand up- it's as if it fell over! 14:13, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the needed places, like where there would be shadows. Maybe add a patch of gray to the head (a smaller one), make the earpink triangular (like previously stated), and maybe make the back hind paw gray. 14:19, July 5, 2011 (UT,C)

Lol I know, I was like 'It dpolphin dived to the ear!' xD Ok, I will get right on it, and if the earpink doesn't look right, could someone fix the earpink for me? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 21:25, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

VICTORY!!!!I GOT THE EARPINK TO LOOK NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (<--- abuse of the '!'s) Ok darkend the shading, fixed the earpink, should I darken the gray pathces, it looks to bright to me....., Comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 21:58, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the gray patches in the same direction. Also I would darken the shading on the head, chest, and legs. Blur the shading on the tail and back. Nice job so far, Maplepool. 02:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Ok so I darkend the patches(like I wanted to), re sumged the pathces, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 03:06, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/add shading. I can't really see much right now. And lighten the eyes a bit. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:13, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, Comments? (Why is the image next to the title?) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 13:50, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yay thank you whoever fixed it~ Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 13:55, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

That was me. =P Your welcome! 13:56, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. 15:51, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded- Back shading blurred. Comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Gawjus, gurl, gawjus! Add/darken shading on legs. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 22:40, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, fixed leg shading, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 23:52, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, some of the splotches are darker than the others, or maybe that's just the shading. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 01:30, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

The shading. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:22, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Anyway, redden zee earpink then make it larger. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 21:52, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

There's something funny to me about those splotches, maybe not smudge them as far out? 00:02, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Alright I'll get to wrok on it, and she was said to be mottled in CP, should I make her mottled? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:50, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Made the patches smaller, and made the ear-pink redder. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:56, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

The changes aren't showing, but on the preview it does show, blend the motles in a little more. 19:57, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred the mottles, commetns? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:00, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Changes aren't showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:06, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Maybe lighten the ear pink just a bit. A tip: If you have paint, before you add the color to the fur, zoom in alot so you can clearly see the ear, then with the pencil icon, draw a triangle inside, then color the fur and stuff, then blur it later on. Fallenstars 00:32, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Are you looking at this image or the second one in her history? That the one that needs to be up. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:44, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the patches more, and make the tail patch a little more round. it looks kind of square and unatural. Also darken the shading on the white and blur the highlights. 13:39, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred the patches to a max, darkened the white shading as much as i can without it looking gray, fixed the tail patch, and blurred it, anything? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:56, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I know it's in a small area, but can you try blurring her white ear-tip a little more? 15:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Repuploaded- Blurred her ear-tip, Anything else? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:06, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular, smudge the patches more, darken the shading. Good job! 20:52, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I can't darken the shading anymore, I darken the shading, the white becomes pale gray, the gray bomes dark gray, and then it kills the image. So no, i won't darken the shading. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:43, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

The gray parts look awkward, especially the one on the tail. Blur the mottles. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:57, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

The gray patch on the tail looks like a box... <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  11:09, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Snow; that is beacause changes aren't showing, I can't blur anything anymore, gimp has blurred it to a max. So....Mint; what do you want me to do with the patches? Smudge them a bit? Just saying they look awaward doesn't really help me much...xD Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 13:16, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! I meant that the tail looks like a box and they should be smudged and blurred. And if you're using GIMP. you should be able to blur it enough. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:04, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Gettin' really tired of syaing this, but, Changes ARE NOT showing, to see the REAL image, go to her history, I PROMISE you her tail patch DOES NOT look like a box(Sorry if sound rude, I'm really tired, waking up at 4:30 does that to you Dx sorry.) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 14:07, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Okay i played around with the patches and I got this....so....What do ya' think? And the CHANGES are showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:28, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ithink, it looks good, but can you bur the patch on Lakeshine's back? Leaf-storm,18:57,August 18,2011 (UTC)

reuploaded-comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:34, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest fur shading. Sorry if I'm saying this even though the changes aren't showing. I'm on my phone. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  19:50, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Blurred Chest Shading, comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:26, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. And she looks speckled, not mottled. Mottles are uneven. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:26, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

So I re-do the mottles? Or what? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:45, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I re-did the mottles. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:09, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Use Thistleclaw and Hawkheart as examples for mottles. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:08, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

But, this how I did Adderfang and Mothwing's image's mottles, and no one had a promblem with those, so I'll change it if someone else has a promblem with them, but really? If I change her, won'twe have to change Mothwing and Adderfang too? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:06, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so for once, i tired to NOT be a pain and make her look like hawkheart's mottles, and quiet honelsty, all I have to say is this; If YOu want it YOU do it! Because I did it and she ended up looking like BLCH! okay, she looked AWFUL, alright, sorry if I soun rude but really she looked HORRID. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:21, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Any commetns? Sorry, I'm antsy, and school starts for me on Monday, so I REALLY wanna get this approved fast, cause after school starts, I'mma be busy Dx Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 22:16, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Center the earpink, blur the shading along the chest, and blur the patch on the foot farthest from us. 22:36, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

The Ear-pink already is centered.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:27, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Fixed the chest shdaing(Blurred it.) And blurred her paws(she has two patches on each of her feet farthest from us, so i blurred them both..) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 23:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Is it me or do her eyes look gray? They are blue... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:39, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make them a more striking blue color 15:38, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten the earpink. Also, maybe try smudging the patches? They still need to be blended in with the pelt more. 16:13, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I was told NOT to sumdge the patches, so which do I do?

sorry, /\ was me, So I will get right on it. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:03, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred the shading, fixed the eyes, lightened the ear-pink, sumdged the patches, commetns? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:18, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Move the earpink up a little, smudge the patches all in the same direction (I.e. like Ivypool), and emphasize the shading, it looks a bit flat. 01:56, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the patches on the forelegs. 21:16, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink and lighten the highlights. 22:32, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

The patches are all sumged the same way?....But anyway, Reuploaded; fixed the shading, defined the ear-pink,sumged the patches. Changes not showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:42, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, now the changes ARE showing, so, let us get ONE thing clear; I will NOT darken the shading ANYMORE, okay? I will NOT is is to dark if you ask me, but. Just to clear that up. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:23, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should blur the earpink a bit. 23:47, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Center the earpink. 00:28, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Maplepool, the earpink goes a little too far down. Make it even with the base of the ear. 22:35, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * eye twitches* I've said it already, the ear-pink IS centered. I blurred the ear-pink, comments? (Sorry if I sounded rude, but my BIGGEST pet-peeve, is repeating what I have already said, it wastes my time.) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 01:44, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I like tha way you did that black. But it is a little bit blotchy. And darken the shading on the chest 00:20, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the gray patch on the earpink. 18:53, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sighs* fine, fine, I yeild, I'll mess with the ear-pink. I'll blur the back shading(I think is what you mean, for her back, right?) And I'll darken the shading. Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 18:18, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Gosh, I hate this image more and more and more EVERY day. I liked it a bit at first...but Not anymore, Should I redo this? Yes, I think I should.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:03, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lilystem (w) ~ CBA
Alright, I used the earpink from her Queen and sent the finished charart to Nightflower, to see if it was all right. She told me to darken it, so I did a tad. If it still needs some work, could someone get me a color for it? Anyways, My first warrior! 14:15, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

This looks beautiful! Blur the shading a bit! Good job! 14:20, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reaname this Lilystem.Warrior.Png Add light part to the front legs and to the top of the foot. The earpink looks a little bright, but I'll have to check her queen image 14:22, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, it's fine. But you need to darken the fur to match the queen. 14:25, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

This looks good, blur the shading, add highlights. Plus, when you re-upload, please just keep the same name and overwrite the old image. Paulmer 15:59, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Before I start to remake the image, I have a few things to clarify xD @Ivystripe - I got the base color from the queen already, so where exactly do I have to darken it? @Paulmer - I do have highlights, and it's not required to have highlights anyways :) 16:02, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well, her coat just seems darker but I think the image needs tweaked in tweek week, I see many mistakes so I guess it doesn't matter then. 16:18, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Re-Named. Alright, I'll keep it at this color then. 17:07, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and earpink, and darken the shading on the tail. 01:58, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

darken the shading overall, and darken the earpink. 15:35, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I darkened the shading, but I'm not too happy with it and I tried blurring it all I can. 19:09, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Its pretty good! The tail shading still doesn't look right, though. Either lighten the highlights or darken the shading. 21:08, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'll be gone until the 20th, I'll reupload it then. 22:23, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I figure I should reupload it before I leave. This is my redid GIMP version, but I think I'm going to redo the shading pattern on my trip, I don't like it this way. Changes aren't showing. 00:26, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe brighten the eyes a tad? 15:59, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, Splashpelt, could you darken the shading a tad? 16:53, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights and blur them. 20:14, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 14:40, August 20, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:14, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Also, define the shading a tad 01:19, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes may or may not be showing. 16:10, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

All shading besides the tail needs to be blurred a tad bit more. This looks great! =) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  16:48, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing 

I made the changes show by reuploading it a couple times xD Just to let you guys know, this is the correct version. 23:51, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Fff, Reuploaded, I just saw that little bit of waste between the legs. xD Changes not showing. 00:15, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, in effort to get the changes to show, the really old image came back. Ignore it please. 00:06, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and there isn't waste in the current image, like I said, the image is really messed up. 00:08, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 14:59, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the highlights on the tail and blur the shading on the chest and belly. 21:22, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

the tail shading is blotchy, define it and make the highlights lighter. 21:51, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Don't know if the changes are showing. I can't, I have no highlights and if I did, I can't make them lighter then white. 00:26, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, Splashy. CBA? 22:32, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Splash. Can you blur the ear-pink a bit more as well as the shading around the head? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 04:14, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Alright, there is no waste on this. I deleted it before I uploaded it, but the whole image changes thing doesn't allow me to see the correct one. 22:33, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Repeating CBA. 18:34, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Cedarpelt (W) - For Approval
Finally, a long haired cat >_>. Comments? 19:13, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! Define the shading and the earpink. 19:22, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:32, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

make the highlights a little lighter and the stripes on the tail more defined 20:25, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:29, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Aw I love his tail! Lighten the earpink. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:10, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:34, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a little bit so the smudges blend better with the pelt. This looks good. :) 02:10, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe shorten the tail a bit more? It seems a bit long for a 'short, stout tailed cat' as the description says. Other than that, I see nothing wrong, this is wonderful! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:18, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It is! :P Can you add some highlighting/shading to the front leg? 15:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) 16:09, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Should the earpink be a little lighter? 23:14, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me! <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 00:58, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! (Ya know this kinda looks like my charart xD) De-saturate the earpink and maybe add highlights to the the front legs and pawz --

Reuploaded Back to good ol' images. :D 20:40, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded without anyone telling me to I added mottles, since it was on his page. Changes aren't showing. 21:30, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Define the highlights a bit. The tail looks good but somewhat un-natural. Fallenstars 14:55, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think the lineart on the tail needs to be thickened in some places, and maybe you could add some fur lines to the end to make it look more natural, but I'm not sure since the longhaired warrior blanks don't have those (imo I think they should) 16:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights. 19:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think the changes are showing. And I just left the tail as it is, since the longhaired tails are like that. 20:43, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight. 22:45, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the neck and on the shoulder. This is looking nice! <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 00:19, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. Besides that, it looks awesome! 21:26, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, the tail doesn't look like it has any highlights. 23:49, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It does, Dapplecloud. And I'm back. 00:44, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Rainflower (Q) ~ For Approval
First charart! Comments? This was declined before... <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 01:32, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

In some places around the lineart, it's pixlated. So blur or smudge it so it's all around the same color. Blur the darker shading on the back and tail, and fill the ear in more with the earpink. 01:57, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think you might have to redo this because it's all pixelated. 02:01, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

She looks cross-eyed. Try basing the eyes off of one of the other queens for approval, like Brook. 02:18, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Save it as a .png not a .jpg, move the earpink make it a tad bigger and darken it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:22, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It is a .png Maplepool, but it looks like it WAS a .jpg before. You'll probably have to redo this, sorry. D: ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:20, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, define the earpink, fix the eyes...and thats it! :D 15:27, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

OH! I know what you did, you used the 'Sharpen tool' Didn't you? I think Gimp might have I don't know, as I have never used it, don't use it, it kills the quailty of a image, when you redo her image, give her a pink-gray nose, like Feathertail an Crowfeather and Jayfeather's kit image, or Marshscar/star's Leader image, it looks like the nose is the same color as the pelt. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:21, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll redo it, I don't really care. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:17, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded or Re-Done ~ Gosh, this looks WAYYY better! <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:50, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It does. :D Blur the earpink. 23:12, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Comments? <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 23:25, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 02:17, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 11:12, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Looks good Snowdazzle! =D 11:25, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried blurring it as much as I can. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 11:43, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a lot 19:54, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Snowy this is beautiful! Blur shading and highlights. ^.^ Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  02:40, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I'll reupload this as soon as I come back from vacation. ~Snowdazzle, not signed in.

Darken and define the shading. 19:38, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but what does define mean? I'm just so stupid at times :P <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  11:58, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make it more visable. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 13:11, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken it too and stretch it up by her foreleg and her haunch. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 02:30, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I just redid it since I just came back from vacation. Changes aren't showing. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  20:23, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading or is it just that changes aren't showing? 21:27, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

They are not showing. Look at the second-to-top image on the file page. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  21:35, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink triangular. 23:16, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I personally think the earpink is fine... <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  00:08, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Comments? No one's commented in a while. Sorry, I'm just wanting to get this approved by the time school starts. 22:34, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Commented in a while? Its only been a few hours since you said that the earpink was fine. Really, I only get impatient after 2 or more days of no comments. xD The earpink seems to fill the whole ear, so make it a bit smaller. 22:59, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry, xD 23:11, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

You should blur the shading a bit more on the belly and the back. 23:52, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Are you looking at the correct image? It's the second-to-top one on the file page. 00:01, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the neck and on the hind leg. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:07, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:27, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlight on the hind leg. 22:49, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 13:17, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Petaldust (A) - For Approval
Myfirst one! I know the highlights are bad but I kinda suck at it. >,< I didn't know if I could put it up because her warrior one is currently in the making, but I used that as a guide. Comments? -- 21:38, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the stuff around the tail, and get rid of those pixels. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:45, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploded. How can I fix the hind leg highlights, or is it fine? I already tried blurring it. 21:58, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Um, did you add the hind leg highlight more than three times? <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 22:43, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! Can you define the earpink by lightening it and blur the highlights more? 23:06, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Um, yeah, I think so. Only for the hind leg one, though. I'll try to blur some more. 23:26, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

the chest seems too gray, i think it should have no white (or in this case, gray) Bluestar11796 23:36, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploded. '''I blurred the highlights some more. I think their fine now. I got the earpink color from her warrior version. I lightened it up a bit, but I didn't want to to much because it would look different. I got the white chest also from her warrior version, so I just put it in. Instead, should I lighten it up? 23:40, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I tried making the chest lighter by putting the normal white color and smudging it around. 23:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

The chest fur looks way too smudged. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 00:04, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. 00:17, July 7, 2011 (UTC)'''

Oooh, I like this! Add/darken shading on legs. :) <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 00:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 01:42, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste off the lineart at the back of the haunch ;) 02:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, nice job for your first charart! <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  03:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Thanks! :] 14:23, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

There is some waste by the backside of her haunch, also it looks like you have light blur pixils near the top of her haunch, dunno if you meant for that to be white or not 20:04, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, define the earpink. 19:14, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Sorry, I wasn't aware that Tweak week was over. It might take a while to see the changes so look at the changes page thingy. 01:11, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry guys, the person who did her Warriors charart decided to change it, so I'll try to redo it tonight. :P 01:24, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploade. '''To match her warrior version. I had to rename it because the changes wouldn't show. I made it: petaldust.apprentice.png from Petaldust.Apprentice.png Should I delete the previous one? 15:37, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

De-thumbing. Looks good, Poppy! You can't delete any of them. Only an admin has the powers to do that. However, you can mark it for deletion, and someone will take care of it. 15:44, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Umm, sorry I don't know what de-thumbing means. And I don't really know how to mark something for deletion. Could you tell me how to and what de-thumbing is? 16:31, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it just has to do with the way the image appears on the page. Nothing to worry about. Next time, just remember to only put File:file name inside the, and nothing else. Also, when you mark something for deletion, you "edit" the page the image is on and put the Delete tag on it. Simple as that! 16:39, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks. Any other comments? 23:46, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and add shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:28, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I have added the shading except for one place. The white part. Whenever I try to burn it won't show. And if I make a new layer and make the shading it looks different. Sorry if I'm being hopeless but any suggestions? 01:23, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, and make the earpink bigger 03:31, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the white muzzle some more. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  11:46, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 14:24, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well if you're using the burn tool, don't make the white a pure white. Make it a little darker white, but not gray. x3 20:22, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''The problam was I had to burn it like 8 times. XD A little extreme but it worked. 21:25, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 23:31, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Changes not showing. Check changelog to see. 03:14, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Any other comments? 21:20, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back and brighten the ear-pink. Smooth out the shading on the chest; it's really blotchy. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 00:22, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 14:23, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ginger patches to make it look more natural. And the highlights make her look kinda plastic-looking. If you're using pixlr, dodge the haunch, head, shoulder and tail-tip two or three times. If you're using GIMP, do the same, but use the pencil, make the color white, lower the opacity, and only dot them once. If you're using something else, I don't know. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 15:11, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail a bit and does the chest look a bit gray? 21:31, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the chest a lot. 21:56, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Sorry, I'm not very good at highlights or shading on torties. 17:52, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the black parts more to match her warrior version. 23:24, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

You should blur just a teensie bit at where the brown fur meets the white on its forearms. 23:56, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uloaded. '''I haven't had much internet access because of Irene. So that should explain my delay.. 19:34, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Stormkit (SC) (Ki) ~ For Approval
Ok, I know I put 2 images on, but I couldn't decide if she was mostly gray or mostly ginger, so I put them both on, and I'll let you decide which one's better. Comments?Bluestar11796 00:24, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

First, don't make this a gallery, and don't make it a thumbnail either. Whichever one you choose, which I think the first is better, blur the patches, and define the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:11, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, but when I tried to put them on separately, the first image disapeared, that's the only reason I put them in the gallery. But, it's fixed.Bluestar11796 23:40, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I say go with the second one, but make the gray lighter, since in the graphic novel it appears to be a very light, almost white, gray. 23:44, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Also, you need to change it to the proper eye color. Her eyes are amber, not brown. 23:45, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

There, fixed it for you x) Tone down the ginger, looks too bright :\ and blend/smudge the grey and ginger together. -- 23:52, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

If you're going with the second one - The lineart looks a little blurry, though it may change. Blur/smudge the patches and blur the stripes. Also, redden the earpink some and define the shading :3

If you're going with the first one - Blur the stripes, smudge the patches, redden the earpink and define shading/highlights. 23:48, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Who is working on this, no one signed. If you go with the first one, make the gray look less...weird, maybe make her paler ginger, and paler gray? and tone tone the gray down? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:18, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me, i forget that quite often.Bluestar11796 00:24, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I had always thought of her as more of a Sandstorm color. 01:04, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Not to be mean, but I don't think this is how she was depicted in the book. Let my check my copy of TR and see which one she is again 02:02, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

go to google images and look at a picture of a ginger and gray cat, they mostly have a sandstorm color of ginger. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:08, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

U mean leik this? -- 02:48, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded (or more like re-done). I made the ginger more like on Sandstorm's charart, and I really like the first one, but, its up to you.Bluestar11796 03:21, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Kay, now make the gray a bit lighter and the ginger part a bit more ginger (they look tan now :\) -- 03:26, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead and go with the second one. The first one is awesome but it's not how she was depicted in the book 14:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripes should be blurred on the ginger patches. 16:10, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I decided: Gray with ginger patches (even though I think that the mostly ginger one is cool), so,''' Re-uploaded. Bluestar11796 16:25, August 17, 2011 (UTC)'''

The shading is too dark. Please fix it. I love the patches, btw. Good job! 16:49, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Get rid of the stripes on the paws, it looks to unreal. other than that, great job^^ Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 16:52, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ginger patches larger on the body, add shading on the tail, make the earpink redder, blur the stripes, along with the shading. Nice work 17:07, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights, and define the earpink. `

Reuploaded. changes not showing.Bluestar11796 19:08, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 21:59, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur lighting, I see circles there. Leaf-storm,7:35,August 18,2011 (UTC)

Instead of completely getting rid of the paw stripes, I say you make them horizontal instead of vertical. But that's just me. 14:26, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Gray and ginger.... huh, is that ever possible? XD Anyways, this looks GREAT, but the shading seems a bit funky, like it's got two different shadings, one for the gray, and one for the ginger, it doesn't look all the same, if that made any sense. XD It's like, it's shaded in different places on the ginger than on the gray. Any way of fixing that? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:06, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 13:52, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

@Paleclaw, Well, it HAS to be otherwise, she wouldn't be Gray and ginger, nor my cat's kit, Spots xD This looks great, blur the highliths a touch. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:59, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should make it look like a dilute tortoiseshell, which is like a cream or pale ginger and gray. It makes more sense if you ask me. xP 20:18, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I know you're not supposed to use the cover images but on that one it has a lighter gray, maybe that would make it look more natural Wild  fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  00:16, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

That's not really what a dilute tortie looks like. Basically they are a gray tabby with light patches of cream. Right now the ginger is too bright. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:36, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I know this is a tad off-topic, but maybe she's a torbie (tabby-tortie mix), that could be possible. 13:41, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be a bit more solid looking. 21:40, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

This hasn't been uploaded for a week. Are you still working on this? 22:28, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I'm still working on it, but I started high school almost a week ago, so I can't work on it much. I'm at school right now!Bluestar11796 16:26, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, but try to work as much as you can, or else this might get withdrawn for lack of work. 22:01, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. 01:10, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Skyheart (W) ~ CBA
Yay, my first charart to be approved. :) Comments? 23:55, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

YESS! First one xD Okayy, define the shading alot and make the earpink bigger(more triangular) and darken it alittle -- 23:58, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Also make the stripes longer and pointer so they flow into each other better. :) 00:14, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Defined shading, tried to fix up the stripes and earpink. I think I still need to do some more work on the stripes, though. Changes aren't showing yet. 00:36, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I understand that the changes aren't showing yet, so please don't get mad if I say this, but the earpink is hitting the lineart. This looks good! Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 02:37, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I don't get mad easily, no worries :D I'll fix that up soon, once I receive some more comments. 02:59, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reupoloded. This time, thankfully, the changes are showing. Anyway, I tried to fix up the earpink a little. 16:04, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

On the tip of her tail, it looks like there's a few stray pixils of main pelt color on her stripe. Nit-picky, I know D: Btw, this is really good! 16:12, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, but I think its supposed to be longhaired, since on page 143 of CP it says that all RiverClan cats have thick pelts. 17:16, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's ok, Dawnbright and Leopardstar are both short haired. :P 19:56, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed the ligher pixels on the tail tip. 20:02, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes get lost in the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:31, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing. I tried to fix the stripes so they didn't look lost in the shading, but I'm not that positive about how it turned out. 04:41, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look awkward. If you're using GIMP, use black for the shading and lower the opacity. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 13:55, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reupoaded. Changes aren't showing, though. I just re-did the whole thing, because the stripes really annoyed me. Thanks Mintstar, I did the opacity thing, I think it helped. 16:47, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Your welcome, they look way better. Blur the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 21:41, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing as always. Well, I tried to blur the shading, but I couldn't much without blurring the stripes. I'm sure you may see a tiny difference, though. 23:38, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:15, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Reddened earpink. I can't tell, but I think the changes are showing. 23:54, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes that are towards the top of the tail. This is really nice! 23:55, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing. Thanks :) I tried to define the stripes... 00:54, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

There's one stripe on the haunch, near the hind foot, that has this blob of paint next to it. Can you fix that? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 16:37, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

There's stuff by the tail outside the lines SpottedtalonMudears 20:22, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Shadewing, I looked but I don't see where, could you possibly circle it in red for me? 22:37, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Right there. I just thought it look a little odd, how there's just that paint kind of sticking out of the side of the stripe, because none of the other stripes have it. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 23:35, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

You're actually looking at one of the older uploads :P I re-did the whole thing recently. 04:14, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, oops, I'm sorry! Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:37, August 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

No worries. I did that for Dawnbright's image the other day... :P 16:03, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

You guys, should I switch this to longhaired? I might have to re do it though, and I'm proud of this one :( 04:38, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I made a copy of it converted to long hair.. but I'm not so positive about the tail. If I must switch it to longhaired, then shall it be. 05:20, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Changes aren't showing. Ok, I did it- I converted it to be longhaired. I think it looks ok, but I'm not sure about the tail. Still, it's ok, right? 17:39, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good. Just lighten the shading and highlights on it. Other than that, I don't see much else. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 15:15, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing, I don't even think they're showing on this link. Once it shows, I made it noticeably lighter. 15:47, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 21:43, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I can try to blur the shading, as I did in previous uploads, but I can do much without blurring the stripes. 21:59, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink; its hard to see. 22:25, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing. 05:20, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the neck and midsection(between haunch and shoulder, i never know what to call it) shading. 02:40, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes are showing, I think. 03:36, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think maybe you should make the earpink bigger. 23:57, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

There seems to be waste pixels near the chin. 00:15, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

There is also waste right above the tip of the tail. 00:38, August 26, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing. 04:45, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I checked the file page, and the second-to-top file still has waste. Try using layers to erase the waste. 22:04, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Err... sorry about that. It's not showing that I got rid of the waste in the file changes link, but I used layers to get rid of the waste. 03:35, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

She looks great! CBA? 18:49, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Graypool (W) ~ For Approval
Here she is! What do you think? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 01:40, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Blur the earpink and change the side the highlights are on, on the tail. 01:49, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the eyes more orange, less yellow. Rename the image Graypool.warrior.png. 01:53, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

blur the earpink. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:05, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Blurred earpink, changed eye and highlights, renamed image. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 02:32, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Blur the shading on her neck and right by her shoulder more 02:39, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Blurring job is a fail, but I tried. ^.^ Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  02:48, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Good job ^_^ Add more highlights to the upper part of the tail, though. 02:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

This looks EPIC Shady! xD Brighten the tail highlight ;) <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  13:17, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Done. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:48, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Define the shading just a tad. Looks good otherwise, Shadeh! 16:47, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks a bit blotchy; blur it and smoothen it; define the light source, add more shading to the tail, and blur the earpink. Great work! 17:06, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Got it. What's the light source? (This is my first charart, sorry). Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 17:45, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Gosh i know what it is but i am HORRID at explaining things....so i can't help you, I'm sorry DX Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 17:48, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - The blurring was a fail. I tried. And it's fine Maplepool. xD Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  17:55, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The changes aren't showing. Help? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 17:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

If the changes don't show, there's nothing you can do about it. Just look at the second-to-top file on the file page. The changes always start to show after a few days, don't worry. :D The light source means where the light is coming from; for example, if the light is coming from the side of the cat, the highlights would all be on the side; if the light is coming from the front, the back would be darker than the front. Hope this helps. =) 20:49, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a million. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 21:22, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Re-Uploaded - Changes still aren't showing. Defined light source. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 14:35, August 18, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Their is some blurred lineart near the shoulder. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  19:43, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think the blurred lineart goes down the back, also. 20:05, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'll get that cleared up, but I don't if the changes will show...thanks though. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 22:17, August 18, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Re-Uploaded - Um I fixed the shoulder lineart, but I didn't see any blurred pixels on the back. Changes are finally showing! xD Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  22:43, August 18, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The earpink looks like it's a little off to the right. Either redo the earpink, or just expand it to go towards the left more. 23:25, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Complete FAIL. Oh well, I tried. And of course the changes aren't showing again! :3 Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  00:07, August 19, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Alright, the changes are showing again! The earpink is a fail. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:43, August 19, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Darken the shading and highlights. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 21:42, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Uhh, I don't think the changes are showing again, but I can't tell. Does it look any different? (Sorry, I'm so stupid sometimes). Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 01:07, August 20, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I have no clue xD. Er... blur the earpink some more. Gawjus, Shadeh! <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  00:40, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Blurred earpink. It's not that great, Snowy, but I did my best. :) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  00:54, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

It looks like there is a gray stripe on the back, get rid of that and blur the earpink a bit more. Also, there is some blurred lineart on the tail, and it may be just me, but the top of the lineart on the tail looks a bit lighter. Otherwise, nice job. 17:12, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Fixed. Changes aren't showing again. =( Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  22:12, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Alright I think the changes are showing now. :D Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  13:40, August 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The shading is too dark on the back and the....front part of the cat. I think you can fix it ;) 15:24, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I completely re-did her. The shading on the old one was disastrous, I couldn't get it to lighten. Comments? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 19:10, August 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Much better Shadeh. Blur the tail shading and the earpink. :3 <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  23:00, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Done. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:47, August 23, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Darken the shading and highlights. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 15:17, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit and the highlights. 21:44, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the tail highlight bigger. 22:23, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Fixed. 12:49, August 25, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Blur the earpink. 23:59, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Done. 13:57, August 26, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Enlarge the ear-pink a bit more and darken it. Blur the shading on the tail and around the highlights; maybe darken the highlights a bit. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:11, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks to bright. And make the original color be seen, not just the shading and highlights. <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  01:04, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't worked on this, I'm so busy! XC 21:08, August 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Tanglewhisker (E) - For Approval
FINALLY. After over a year of not doing chararts...here's the horrible result. DX Comments?  HA WK FI RE98  16:55, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

This isn't bad, this is really good^^ there are a fex stray pixels around his head, darken the shading a touch. looks great^^ Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 16:57, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Love what you did with his pelt. Maybe highlight it a bit more, though. It's really dark looking. 16:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

You also need to add some gray to his back to match his description. 16:59, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you have any earpink O.o. Please add some. I agree with Maplepool, this looks great! 17:00, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Add earpink, and define shading/highlights. 17:01, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

This is amazing! Some of the stripes look a tiny bit blotchy, and I think a couple went over the lineart. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 18:09, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I agree with the people above, some waste around the ear, and like his description says, he needs a graying back. <font color="#99ffff">The Stars Align <font color="#66ccff">Isn't there somewhere I can buy snow? 19:43, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good! Add some Ear-Pink (I dont seee any), erase a few stray pizels behind the head, and add a graying back Fallenstars 04:53, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fallenstars, you don't need to repreat what's already been said. 19:29, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Any chance of you lightening the whole thing a bit? It's so dark it's kind of hard to see the messy fur. It's fine if you can't, just a suggestion. This looks AMAZING! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:03, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I know I already commented, but I noticed something else. In his description, it says he has a "graying back." I don't see any gray. Any chance you could add some? =) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  21:12, August 19, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

...Are ya still working on this? 0_o lighten up the pelt color and define the shading -- 00:14, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hawkfire hasn't updated in about 48 hours... Should someone else take this up before it's declined for inactivity? 03:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... we usually wait about a week before we decline images. This is fine. 14:26, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Did it ever say that he has a gray face and paws? It doesn't say so in the description SpottedtalonMudears 20:20, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

It's supposed to be a graying muzzle and paws, meaning he's old. 20:22, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Its been four days without comments now...Are you still working on this? 16:19, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

If I remember right, Hawkfire either didn't reserve this, or took their reservation off the table. 16:20, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Then, shouldn't this be declined? 16:31, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with that. It should be, although it is neat. =( 05:33, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, someone can always take over...its been a week without reuploads now, so this should be withdrawn. 22:20, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Can I take over? 8) -- 22:13, August 27, 2011 (UTC)18:37, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, guess Im takin' over! so... Reuploaded - added graying back, earpink and lightened the whole thing up a bit. changes arent showing.. =.= -- 00:22, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blend the gray in a lot. 01:19, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I redidit, since it said wide 8) Wow! Look at that, changes aren't showin! Now what are the odds of that? =.= -- 01:43, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Little momnt! We can tke over chararts? Ow.. yes I think there is missing ear-pink? I don't see it.

Leafstorm, if an image is gonna be declined due to lack of work or is withdrawn (or something similar) someone can take over. It's always been like that. And this is looking great, but maybe make the back the same color as the muzzle? Maybe a bit darker. I don't know. XD I just imagine him having a gray back as it being like.... hairs turning white, like they do on humans. This looks great though! ^^

Dawnbright (W) ~ For Approval
Meh. I don't really like this XP Anyhoo, comments? Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  14:17, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart. Fix that please. Looks awesome though! :D 14:21, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

You need to add stripes to the ginger patches. Otherwise, looks great! 14:22, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Re-did the whole thing. Added stripes, no more blurred lineart ;) Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  15:00, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

UGH! The file is being stupid. I'll work on it, but the one above right now isn't the right one X( Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  15:04, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I fixed it. I know it's not named the right thing, but once it gets approved I'll fix the name :) Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  15:11, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

You need to rename it Dawnbright.warrior.png and try putting a splash of ginger on the paws or something like that. Darken the ear pink so you can see it better. 18:21, August 18, 2011 (UTC)



There is still some blurred lineart.

I circled in red where the spots are. Sorry if I am being picky about this, I can help with it if the blurred lineart really frustrates you. 23:30, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Umm...Ivyheart...that's not the right picture. The one you circled has no stripes. 04:40, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yea, I was gonna say o.o the method I used the make the one with stripes, it's impossible to get blurred lineart. I'd explain, but I'm so friggin' tired I really don't want to xD Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  11:33, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, shoot! I'm sorry :P 20:43, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the tail please :) 01:23, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Defined tail stripes, added ginger to paws, and darkened ear pink. Changes aren't showing yet. Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  14:45, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

define the stripes on teh head and right ear and define the earpink too x) -- 22:22, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ginger on the paws. 23:45, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 00:11, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink doesn't look very visible, it kinda blends in with the fur. Define the earpink. 00:07, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hate to say this, Ginger. But this needs to be redone as a longhair. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 02:29, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink and blur the hind leg. 21:48, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Redo it as a longhair, and make sure to add shading to the tail. This one doesn't have any. 23:21, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redone as longhair, tried new style. CHanges aren't showing yet XP Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  19:03, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I like the new style. :) Darken shading, lighten highlights, define earpink. 22:06, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

The tail coloring looks a bit wonky. I can't really see the shading and highlights. <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  01:10, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Look's good. Darken shading and blur ginger patches a little. Good work! Leaf-storm,14:23,August 27,2011 (UTC)

Dull the ginger parts, it looks too neon. 19:32, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sol (KP)-For Approval
I realise his collor isn't filled in about as soon as I uploaded it. I did fix it, but the changes aren't showing up again xD. So... he was fun to do. I love torties, and Sol is one of my favorite characters. Ahah, I had forgotten how fun doing charart was. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

The white tail tip is too dark, it looks like it's gray... <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  13:13, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

NICE! define the shading a bit -- 16:15, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white on his belly fill the area you have indicated, right now it's a white dot and he has a black belly. Define the shading on the face, and define the depth in his eyes please. 17:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Also, his back foot farthest from us is a tad bit dark, it looks silver instead of shaded 18:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

His ginger patches should be lightened to match his loner image. Otherwise, great job. 22:27, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Ginger, it needs ginger patches. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:26, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, they were ginger, but the shading was really dark. In any case, '''reuploaded. '''I think I took care of everything, even if it's not showing. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 23:28, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe blur the smudging a bit? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Fear the pink <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">mist! 05:00, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Personally I think bluring it would ruin the effect and it wouldn't match the other images. If you guys really want me to I could, but I'd rather not. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 07:30, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darkhallows, don't blur. It looks good the way it is. =) 07:34, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 20:27, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I took the color from his other images. Again, if you want me to change it, I will. I just want consistantsy xD. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 00:56, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

It needs some dark brown and tan, so the colours match the other images. And the ear pink doesnt match the other images. 19:11, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

The nose looks brown, lighten it a bit. 17:30, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

His right hindleg seems to have a yellow smudge on it. 22:33, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

THe tailtip has a birghter ginger smudge on it. :o Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  19:05, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Darkhallows? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:13, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

If shes not i so shawty taking over, Ill withdraw my Echomist image. I just cant stand it. And i love sols art. 21:18, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think I'll give her til Sunday to upload it. Sound fair? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:22, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I am still working on it. Um, can anyone tell I procrastinate? A lot? In any case I'll do this in a few hours, I can't at the moment. However, after that I might not be on for a few days. Hurricane Irene is expected to knock the power out here, so I won't have internet accsess. Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 08:43, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * REuploaded. Darkhallows Enter the cave? 14:21, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sedgecreek (W)- For approval
Sedgecreek. My first one any suggestions on how to make it better? Sorry if it's in the wrong spot. 14:08, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I moved this to the correct section, and took the image out of a thumbnail. Her description says she's a brown tabby, so she needs to be more brown, and her stripes need to be a darker shade of brown, instead of black. Her eye also needs a pupil. Pretty good for your first one, though. :) 14:16, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. and i couldn't figure out what color her eyes were. 14:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC) does someone know what color her eyes are? 14:46, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ehh, 0_o;; Sorry to tell you dis, but the whole thing is blurred, 'ts not transparent, and save it as a .png, okay? -- 16:13, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

np and ok 16:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

It's a png. And thank you whoever deleted my old ones. If you have any suggestions please tell me. 17:04, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, erase the blurred lineart, make the earpink larger, give the eye a pupil and add shading to the stripes. :) 17:07, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

First off, stop uploading fifty different versions of this. This is why we are having trouble seeing the updated version of a picture. Second, you're going to have to redo this. She's a brown tabby. Take the brown off of an already approved blank. I really think we need to stop making stripes like this, because seriously, have you ever seen a cat with such uniform stripes? That's just my suggestion (in my tutorial, I have examples of realistic stripes if anyone is interested) 17:17, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

^Yep, your gonna havta redo this, sorry. It just bugs me how this is gonna get approved with the lineart all blurred with no way being fixed other than being redone -- 17:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry either can someone do this for me or can i just leave it cause it seems like i'm not ready to put up my charart yet. I'll just pratice first. Thank you for giving me suggsttions on how to make it better but now i don't think I'm ready to do this just yet. 18:11, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

i can make her tabby, I'm really good at tabbies, I'll make the base, and the stripes, but, you have to do the highlights and stuff, I won't do that for you. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:46, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, here i drew the stripes, and make her eyes like blue, green, yellow, orange, gold, whatever color you want, as long as it a real eye color, you can choose, okay? Hows that? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:53, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanx! I'll try to do it. i may not get it right though. 22:45, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Fill the strips in ;) I forgot to do that then blur them. Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 23:09, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

like make them darker? or fill them in with color? 16:07, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Fill the stripes in with color 16:38, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Cinder x Lion, you can't do this one and have Rainflower's warrior image reserved on the table. It's either one or the other. How did no one catch this before now? 19:33, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Since you "say" you aren't working on this by working on Rainflower, this should be declined. 20:25, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blend the colors together <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  06:54, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Cinder is working on this anymore, Owl. The person who does it next will end up making a new one. 06:56, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Should we change the status to "withdrawn" or "declined"? 14:00, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

yes sorry but i really dont think i can do this one. So i think we should decline it or whatever is best for you guys. 15:58, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I guess this will be archived now, unless anyone wants to take over. 17:17, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take over, but I'm going to redo it. 20:27, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

'''Ok, reuploaded. '''I put mine over the old one. .3. 21:48, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Much better! This is beautiful! Define where your light source is coming from- currently, she has a light source from both the left and the right. Her head has a light part, but on the back of her arm and bottom part of her tail, there is no shading. 21:51, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Also, make the earpink less blotchy, and less purply. Make it pinkish-reddish. 21:53, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Omg you made it way better than i did! But the earpink looks a little odd. 01:16, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Heh. I redid the stripes and shading.. x3 21:51, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Looks better! Lighten the earpink. 22:07, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks misty, make it more noticable. 22:35, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 23:47, August 24, 2011 (UTC)'''

Can you blur the shading a bit more on the chest? Maybe thicken it a tad as well. This is really nice! <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:14, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I made the light come from the front of her now... x3 22:26, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Can you lighten the head highlight? Looks great! 22:55, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 02:38, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? 13:32, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to interupt, this looks AMAZING, but do you think you can make the tail stripes as dark as the rest? They're lighten than all the rest right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:45, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Firekit (Ki)- For Approval
My first offical charart :D Comments? I feel like she should be a little brighter. I'll try to brighten the ear pink if people can't see it. 14:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I moved this to the correct section and took the image out of a thumbnail. Since she is ginger, she'll need stripes, and the earpink needs to be darkened. This is lovely for your first charart. :) 14:25, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you C: I honestly don't think she has stripes, but I'll add them anyway. 14:27, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added the stripes, except on pixlr when I try to blur them they fail Dx. Changes aren't showing yet. 16:25, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

For some reason the changes aren't showing. I'll upload it again. 17:53, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Silvereye, nice job. I hope you remember me from chat xD Anyway, add more stripes to the top of the head, and make the ones on the body a little bit longer, so they reach the chest. 22:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Nice! make the stripes longer and wavy, define them, make the earpink more pink (less gray), and add some stripes around the eyes -- 22:33, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

When I try to make the stripes wavy, they come out all square like. Oh well, I'm working on it now. 12:08, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ok, I made the ear pink more pink, and a made the stripes longer. Let's hope I don't have to redo it again /shot. If I do I'm alright with that. 12:38, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Could you try making it light ginger around the muzzle, like she is shown in After the Flood? You don't have to, (at least I don't think), but I think she'd look cute 16:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Where did the stripes go? Sa lc  ie  16:43, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

That would be the manga alternative, so no. And everytime I try to upload it it doesn't work -_- 17:33, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

The tail needs some shading SpottedtalonMudears 20:16, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still attemping to get the right version. This is the one before the actual. 20:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's that color for the fur. It looks more creamy than ginger. <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  06:30, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I like the fur color. I was trying to make it similar to the manga coloring. 12:00, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, the newversion appears to be up C: 12:33, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Could you add stripes to the top of her head? Tabbies always have stripes there. This is coming along nicely. 13:38, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is like brown. Make a little redder. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:49, August 23, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Define the earpink by either lightening it a lot or reddening it a lot. 16:21, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I had the stripes on the head, but it went back to a different version Dx Trying to get the new version up now. 17:14, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes a little longer. 22:17, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the highlights and blur the earpink a bit. 22:37, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Connect some of the stripes by adding in little Y's and of course make them longer. 00:17, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ok, here's the current one. 16:20, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink. The one of the left looks smaller than the right one as well. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:17, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks purple. Make it pinkish-red. 22:57, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 21:45, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fallowtail (W) - For approval
heh, I took all the colors from her queen image, and here's the link in case of uploading problems :P 23:26, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Fallowtail's queen version is shorthaired, or is it up for tweaking? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Fear the pink <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">mist! 23:30, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Nice! Define the pupil of her eye 23:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make her short furred, and no her queen image doesn't need tweaking. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:33, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

SWEET. make earpink more visible -- 23:36, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

According to the RiverClan article in the description, it states that all RiverClan cats are long haired and sleek. I've asked a lead, but for now I'm going to keep it long haired. I don't think changes are showing. Reuploaded. 04:14, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pink, and there's some light part on her back foot that looks misplaced with the lighting SpottedtalonMudears 20:15, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing... 00:50, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, and lighten the front of the front paws. 17:13, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the very bottom of her tail has lighter shading when it shouldn't 19:38, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely! Blur the tail highlights a tiny bit. :) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  21:36, August 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded. 01:51, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is still hard to see. 16:34, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:10, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 22:15, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, I can hardly see it. 22:37, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Are you looking at the correct one? Changes aren't showing, and I got all the colors from her queen image. 22:52, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I'm looking at the right one. Second-to-top, right? The earpink needs to be reddened. It doesn't matter, because her queen image is going to be redone as a longhair. 23:25, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste around it. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 23:39, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'd ask where the waste is, but whatever. And ok. Reuploaded. 00:20, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading behind the ears and add/darken the shading under the chin. This is looking really nice! <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:18, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 16:31, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading and brighten the earpink some. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 22:03, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

There is a little dark splotch right below her head. 03:11, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Rainflower (W) For Approval
Here's Rainflower. Any suggestions? 19:05, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

It appears you didn't use the correctly sized base, and this should have been put below Blackstar. You're going to have to redo this in the right sized base. 19:11, August 22, 2011 (UTC) This is good but yesh, I'm afraid you will have to redo this. ;) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  19:40, August 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

'''sorry but what is the right sized base? 19:44, August 22, 2011 (UTC)'''

http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/File:Warriorlongf.gif 19:47, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

oh sorry i see it now. thanx 19:52, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploded wiith the right base I don't think the changes are showing yet. Comments? 20:39, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

The changes showed up comments? 21:01, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

This is white. Make her a light gray, or just take the colors from the queen image I have up for approval. Also, rename this Rainflower.warrior.png <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  21:08, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

The lineart is smudged all around, define the black in the eye, thicken and darken the shading, and define the highlight on the tail. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:40, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

You should give her a pupil, for starters... 23:40, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

ok and snow it is light gray. it isn't white!? 23:54, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I dont know if the changes show but now she's as close to the color on her queen image as i can get. i think her lineart is not as smudged, i put a pupil but i don't know if it shows. Also how to i rename her? Comments? 00:14, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Much better Lion! Um, I still don't see a pupil in the eye. If you go to Firepelt's tutorial, you should be able to find the eye design. Also, the earpink looks a bit odd, make it a more natural color. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 00:21, August 23, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Much better! (holy cow I didn't know Shadewing was gonna say that...) Blur the highlights on her shoulder and haunch 00:23, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

ok. i'll try. ummmmmm how do i rename her. 13:17, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reupload it, but before you do, there will be a box with a "more options", choose this and you can rename the old file. I will mark the wrong file for deletion so it can be deleted and yours will have the right name 13:27, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

ok thank you 18:14, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

when i try to reupload it, it just goes back to a blank reupload page. can someone tell me why it's doing this ? And i don't think i can change the name. I couldn't find the button. sorry 18:47, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'll rename it. 21:46, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Renamed. The changes might not be showing yet, so give it some time. 21:47, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

thank you! 00:07, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 01:25, August 24, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

ok 13:16, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, and also blur the earpink. :p 15:07, August 24, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded i dont know if the changes show. 21:29, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and the earpink. Maybe perhaps you should redden the earpink a bit 22:42, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

i reuploaded it so it may not show the changes but i'll do it again and i tried reder earpink but it just looks wierd. 22:53, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Its too light. Take the color from her queen image. 23:27, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I did mistystar 13:53, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Then why is it too light? 15:36, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

i don't know maybe i did it wrong. i'll try to make it a little darker. 20:56, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

The color is better now, but the shading should blend into the pelt more. Try either making the highlights bigger, or blurring it a lot. 23:07, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't know if it looks any better 23:16, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Um, there are white pixels surrounding the eye. Also, the eye still needs a pupil and all. 14:32, August 26, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

i did put a pupil and i don't know about the white pixles let me fix that. 16:06, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. fixed the white pixles and there has been a pupil. 16:12, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink, fix the eye (Look at Nightshine's tutorial on how to do eyes), and smoothen the pelt. 22:59, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by smoothen the pelt? 23:43, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. 'Fixed the eye and earpink but i don't know what smoothen the pelt means sorry. 00:01, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, nice job Lion! Blur ze chest highlights. xD. 21:03, August 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

As Shadewing said, blur the tail highlight. But the other two are really sloppy, no offense, and blurring would make them inconsistent. Make them like the tail and face highlights. Also, she's pale gray, not white. Add shading or darken it. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 22:02, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

there i shading. i think and none taken. i'll try anyway. 23:16, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. 'I don't think it looks any better. 23:22, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights stick out, and the earpink is too pink. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Damn <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3"> Skippy. 23:53, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

She looks white right now, darken the whole thing a bit. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:43, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blackstar (Ki) - For Approval
Here is my first charart :) Blackstar as a kit up for approval. I really don;t like the paws... What do you think? ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 23:32, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Moved it to the correct section for you and dethumbed it. He needs black ears and shading, and it appears that you used pure black for his paws. Use near-black so you can see the shading and/or highlights. 23:36, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can I ask where he was seen as a kit? Is this from the Warriors App? 23:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

You've also used pure white for his pelt. It needs to be near-white so the shading and/or highlights are visible. And yes, Cloudskye, it's from the Warriors App. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:45, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

We were on agreement to do app pictures, as I put up the discussion and nominated cats for characters needing art page 23:50, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I reuploaded the photo but on here the changes aren't showing yet. :/ What do you think. Too grey looking? ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 00:33, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

He needs to be short furred, where is your light source? define the shading and highlights. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:45, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the edges of his front paws. They don't look blured on my computer. <font color="#FF3399" face="Segoe Script">Silver <font color="#9900CC" face="Segoe Script">light  01:39, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular, and smudge the black paws and eartips as well. 01:42, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should look through a few tutorials, because I don't see any shading. Black and white cats can be tough xD. Good luck. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 01:58, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that would help. And see, this is why I think the kit system is a fail (no offense to Firestar, by the way) 02:02, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

This needs: be shortfurred,shadings and blurred black foots... Leaf-storm,8:21,August 22,2011 (UTC)

You don't need to repeat what's already been said; the artist will fix that 13:55, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading and also blur the ear pink. Darken the ear color and the eye color. 17:49, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I added shading and blurring. The changes aren't changing yet :/ What do you guys think? ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 18:23, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste around the charart and you still need to make it short haired and define the shading 18:37, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I did make it short haired. The changes aren't showing yet.... ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 18:44, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Then reupload it again, it's not even showing in the history 18:49, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, add shading to the tail, and blur the chest more 18:56, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Ivystripe :) ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 19:01, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a tad smaller, and smudge the black paws upwards a bit more so it goes with the fur :3. 21:53, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. You know where to look :D ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 22:13, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading. It's looking better. 23:42, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 00:19, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

On the one front paw it looks there's a sort of light streak on it. And smudge the black on the paws. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 00:36, August 23, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded. What do you guys think? ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 13:55, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur hte earpink, and blur the highlights more. 21:42, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Comments? ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 00:50, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. 22:11, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and the black fur. 22:44, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I don't know if the changes are showing yet. ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 23:18, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the light source. See Nightshine's tutorial on how to do shading. 23:30, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Again with the changes.... ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 01:30, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink more, and blur the shading. 23:00, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Pixlr hates me. ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 04:11, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

smoothe out the shading and define it too -- 19:30, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

There's a LOT of miscolored lineart right now, I suggest pasting a new blank over it, it should get rid of all of it really easy. This looks great! ^^

Whoever said that, sign with the four ~'s xD Rowan, if you need help replacing the lineart, I can definitely help, kay? :) 02:53, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Softwing (Q) - For Approval
It's my first in a while. On her page it didn't have an eye color so I chose a random one. Hope it looks good! Comments? Moon 20:29, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Darken the shading on the back. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  20:54, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tabby stripes on her face, make the earpink bigger, and to be honest, the eye color blend in with the pelt, but that's just a personal preference. 21:13, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

The eye color looks fine to me Ivystripe. Redden the earpink and darken the shading on the white. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:08, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

You need to maek her long-haired, it says all Riverclan cats have thick fur. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:23, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

She doesn't have too, not all the RiverClan cats are long-haired (Reedwhisker and Graymist as examples. Define/darken the nose color. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 23:37, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

We are going to tweak them later, we are thinking to make all Riverclan cats long-furred. Scroll down ;) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 23:39, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I didn't see that. My whole mind's a blur today... <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 23:42, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely! I think there's some shading waste or something around her tail. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 00:33, August 23, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Make it a longhair, and define the earpink. 17:43, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I will get to this as soon as I can, sorry started school and I am really busy with soccer and school. If I have to do it completely over I will try and get it by tomorrow. Thanks. Moo  nstr   ike  04:37, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink a bit. 22:45, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 23:34, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

There is a thin line sticking out of the tabby patch on the tail tip. 03:13, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Willowbreeze (Q) - For Approval
I added her yesterday, but somehow she was deleted. :P Anyway I know it sucks! <font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 17:48, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section. It doesn't match her other chararts, so get the colors off of them. 18:04, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Also, isn't this more than the page limit? 18:09, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger, and she needs a gray nose. 18:46, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I think this is over the limit of 35. 19:12, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

It's not now, and the others should have been archived. 20:25, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

blur the stripes more -- 00:06, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink and enlarge it a bit more. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 02:26, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:49, August 24, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Re-uploaded: Changes arn't showing though.<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 17:46, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Changes are showing. I redid her stripes, blured the shading, and changed her colors to match her other chararts. I can see some white dots, but I colored those in, hang on I'm still editing her.<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 19:16, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay fixed the white dots, but the changes arn't showing :P<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 19:19, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Now the changes are showing. Yay! I also blurred the ear-pink a little more. Hope it gets approved soon!<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 20:30, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, blur the earpink more, and lighten the highlights. 20:56, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Changes might not show.<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 22:30, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all the stripes and the earpink and the shading. You should redden the earpink too. 22:47, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

And it needs to match her other chararts. It has too many stripes. 23:47, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Changes might show. I'm not sure. It looks like they are not showing. I removed some stripes, and blurred everything.<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 03:43, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Changes are not showing!<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 15:17, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay changes are showing, a little.<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 15:23, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a bit more. 22:26, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Changes are showing. I added a gray nose, blurred the stripes, and removed some black smudge around her tail.<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 22:46, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Willowbreeze.queen.png, and remove a few more stripes. 23:01, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll try, but there are other willobreeze.queen images.<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 01:26, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Then overwrite the images :] 15:34, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! But the previous image always shows up, but I'll try!<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 17:27, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I canged the name to Willowbreeze.queen.png, and removed a little more stripes. Hope it gets approved!<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 17:35, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur ze highlights, especially tail and haunch. 21:01, August 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

She looks a little dark compared to her Warrior image. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Damn <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3"> Skippy. 00:30, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Her warrior image was not apporved yet. I copied her colors from her kit, and apprentice pics.Also, I won't be on start after this, not until tommorrow.<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 02:06, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Silverhawk (W) - For Approval
I added the ragged fur because he's ragged, but I'd much rather smudge the pelt. Comments? <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 20:46, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

The ragged parts look out of place, make them a dark gray, darker than any gray you'll use to shade but light enough so it isn't distracting. 20:48, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 21:02, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink larger. 21:28, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading between the front and hind legs. Also, shouldn't the spikes on his tail be going toward the tip rather than the base? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:37, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the spikes are rounded at the tips, make them more triangular. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 22:12, August 23, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 23:51, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

sorry but the earpink is a little of to the side it looks kind of wierd. 00:36, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Try to make the ragged fur more natural looking. You could use Raggedstar as a reference. 12:25, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- changes may not show, but I redid it. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 14:23, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the tail shading. 22:08, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading and the earpink. 22:48, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 22:51, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Look at Raggedstar's leader picture, and make the ragged parts smaller like those. 23:59, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I've already made them smaller. Do they need to be even smaller? <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 00:39, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripes on the tail should be pointing down... 15:53, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

They're supposed to be pointing up. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 20:46, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, now that the changes are showing, I can see that the ragged parts are smaller. Sorry about that! Anyway, lighten the light part (highlight, even though you didn't use highlights) on the head. 23:04, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 00:53, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

His eyes look kind of purple. 02:58, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Piper (Lo) ~ For Approval


I love her! :3 I might re-do the earpink though......Comments? 05:51, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink like, a pixel or two bigger on <--- that side. This is really good, Rainey! 05:55, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I don't know if the changes are showing 07:34, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

This is awesome. :3 Blur the shading on the back and tail. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  12:00, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful Rainey! Blur the highlights and earpink. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:50, August 24, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

There are highlights on this? It doesn't look like it. Also, blur the shading a bit more, please. 13:53, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the white tip of the tail. Looks awesome! 22:31, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Looks so cool! Maybe blur the belly where the white meets the gray? 22:51, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred as much as I could on pixlr. 03:23, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Extend the shading into the back of the shoulder and maybe around the side of the head. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:34, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink as well. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 00:23, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sunfish (W) ~ For Approval


Now that Shellheart is done, on to Sunfish. And, for the record, I have Darkhallows' permission to do this. I just couldn't decide on whether or not to make her default brown or gray to match the "manga", and it was suggested I do gray. Not sure if I should darken it, but she appeared to be a very light gray anyway. I made her eyes amber because her name made me think that that would be the correct color. Comments? 20:25, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and smooth out the shading; it looks a bit blotchy. Darken the ear-pink. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 20:34, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Can you darken the pelt colour ever so slightly? It seems too pale. 20:43, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink, darken the shading, lighten the highlights. 21:11, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reffen the earpink and define it and the shading too. 22:50, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I mean redden. Sorry. 22:52, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded changes not showing. Did all suggested above, only darkened her pelt an iota because she really looks pale in the "manga". 03:38, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make her long-furred, as all riverclan cats have a thick pelt. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:07, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, make it longhaired, and darken the shading. 22:22, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

In the image from which I took her description, she was short furred. I'm leaving it as is, since it was the general agreement that we'd only make them long-haired if they were never described or seen as short haired. I will darken the shading, though. 00:30, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so. In manga, you can hardly tell how long the fur is. You never know, maybe she's jus really skinny with lots of thick fur. 00:36, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so. In any case, her description is 'slender', and that typically translates to short-furred. 00:51, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Not all the time, my cat, Flash is selnder, but she has long fur, and look at Poppyfrost; slender it says she's SLENDER, but her pixlis have long fur. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:48, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Fine, fine. If everyone insists, I'll redo her with long fur. 02:57, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Erf. There's a random slash of highlight on the shoulder, which looks like the only highlight, and a random dade on the closer back paw. Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  19:09, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done. Changes not showing. She's now long haired, as per popular demand. 15:23, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

You know, if she's called SUNfish, don't you think she'd be like a really pale gold? 16:19, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

That would be too presumptuous. Darkhallows advised me to make her gray to match th eonly decription we'll probably ever have of her from the manga at the end of Crookedstar's Promise. And we can't go by names for descriptions. Have you seen Tawnyspots? How he got that name is an enigma. 16:52, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Piper (K) ~ For approval


I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this yet, since its more than the page limit, but my other charart, and another one, are approved, and two are declined, so after they are archived there should be enough room for this. 21:46, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

You should blur the stripe on the head. It looks really good! 22:53, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Re-Uploaded. 00:01, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

For future reference, if you put up a charart before yours is approved or is over the limit, it will be declined no matter the cercomstances. Change the side of the tail the shading is on, it doesnt match the light source. 00:38, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, oops! I didn't see that. Bleh, I always skip the most important things in the rules when I read them too fast. xD 22:03, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I reuploaded it. The changes are only showing in the second-to top file, I think. 23:05, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes! Changes are showing now. Well, on my computer they are. If you can't see the new version, go to the file page and check the second-to-top file. :D 23:16, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur where the gray and white meet on the chest. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 21:59, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 01:41, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Echomist(Q)~ For Approval
I really dislike this image XC. Anyways, i didnt know what to do with her description, so it ended up looking mottled. Comments? 03:19, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

This looks wonderful! Blur the shading on the chest and lighten the shading a tad on the hind foot. 03:21, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading by the base of the tail. For her description, maybe make think highlights or streaks of pale gray around the tips of her fur and blend them in the fuzzy texture? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 15:26, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the chest could be more blurred, but the rest looks great! 22:13, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I redid it, didnt really help. 01:09, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, which one is the new version? 22:41, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Middle one on the file page. 03:57, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I guess "fur being tipped with white" is her outline being white...? 15:27, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Minnowkit (CP) (Ki) ~ For Approval
First Image! Excited! Anyway, it didn't mention her eye color, so I made it blue. Any comments?

Darken the shading tons, please. It seems there isn't any there. 04:24, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Not sure if the changes are showing yet and I'm not sure if I darkened it enough. I darkened it, though!

<font color="#66ffff">The Stars Align <font color="#66ccff">Twilight: Gimme a Mango...NAO! <font color="#bebebe">Random Person: Uh...Okai! *Gives a Mango* <font color="#bebebe"><font color="#66ccff">Twilight:YAY! *Huggiez Mango* 04:51, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the eye highlights on the same side on both eyes so she doesn't look cross eyed. --Frosted Apple 10:39, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Fixed Eye Highlights. (Not sure if changes are showing, yet.)

<font color="#66ffff">The Stars Align <font color="#66ccff">Twilight: Gimme a Mango...NAO! <font color="#bebebe">Random Person: Uh...Okai! *Gives a Mango* <font color="#bebebe"><font color="#66ccff">Twilight:YAY! *Huggiez Mango* 15:12, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear-pink, darken the shading, brighten the highlights; the shading looks a bit flat. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 15:22, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Lightened the ear-pink, darkened the shading, brightened the highlights. Not sure if changes are showing, yet!

<font color="#66ffff">The Stars Align <font color="#66ccff">Twilight: Gimme a Mango...NAO! <font color="#bebebe">Random Person: Uh...Okai! *Gives a Mango* <font color="#bebebe"><font color="#66ccff">Twilight:YAY! *Huggiez Mango* 16:12, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! The earpink on this -> side looks darker than the other one. 20:18, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the eye color a tad, looks great ;) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 22:06, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink, and blur the chest highlight. 22:20, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Uh, I did all of the above. Just wait for changes to show, (If they do.) The Current Version should have a lighter ear-pink on > this side, and brighter eye coloring

Blur the chest highlight more. 22:38, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Blurred it. Just wait for the Changes to show! <font face="Papyrus" font color="#66ffff"> Twilightheart   <font face="Papyrus" font color="#66ffff"> The Stars Align...  23:10, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like there are some pixels on the tail that arev lighter than the rest. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Damn <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3"> Skippy. 11:54, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sedgecreek (A) - For Approval
Well since it was decided that Crookedstar wasn't gonna get a loner charart, I picked my next favorite character in CP, Sedgecreek! Tried to copy her Warrior image's stripes best I could. I really do love making tabbies. XD Comments? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:38, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

How did you get those stripes? Define the earpink, I can't see it. :3 14:29, August 25, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Blur the stripes at the top of the haunch and darken the shading around the head. This is beautiful! <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 15:20, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail too. Looks great! 22:01, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I'm not sure if changes are showing yet. I THINK they are, but I dunno. Anyways, I did all of the comments above, and as for how I made the stripes...... I drew stripes..... lD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:33, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think she was asking if you used a tablet or something. xD Lighten the highlight on the head a bit, to match the other highlights. 22:37, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Done. And Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, yes I use a tablet. XD Just got it for my birthday this year. 8D ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:28, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Voleclaw (W) ~ For Approval
First charart so it may be a bit shaky, but what do you think? Mi st  y!  04:50, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

This will have to be redone sadly, you need to get the full sized blank. Make sure to click the image, THEN save/copy it to use it. Sorry. D: ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:53, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry :3 Should I just remove all of this? Mi st  y!  05:02, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is that the right size? Mi st  y!  06:29, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yep! Blur the shading please. 06:35, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Are the changes showing? Mi st  y!  06:46, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Not yet. XD Give them a few hours and it should show. 06:50, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the front leg and eye, blur shading, enlarge highlights, make earpink more triangular.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:Navyl">aka Rowantail 08:59, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should brighten the eyes a bit. They look almost black. 12:15, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes are definitely not showing xD Mi  st  y!  17:48, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

There, now I think they're showing. Mi st  y!  21:00, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Where's your light source? Keep the shading consistent and smooth, and add some along the haunch. See one of the tutorials for the correct shading source. Other then that, smooth out the highlights, and blur/triangularize the earpink some ;) 22:25, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Alright, but whats a light source? (sorry first charart Dx) I use Mousetalons tutorial, is that an okay one? I blurred and made the earpink more triangular, and what do you mean by smooth out the highlights? (sorry >.<) Mi  st  y!  22:38, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

A light source means where the light is coming from. For example, if the light is coming from the left side, the left side will be brighter than the right side. If the light is coming from the right side, then the darker side will be the left side. Smoothing out the highlights means to blur them and stretch them out more. 23:15, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

And rename this as Voleclaw.warrior.png. Its case-sensitive. 23:42, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the highlights as much as I could.. And added some shading along the haunch. Is it okay? >.< Mi  st  y!  01:08, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Move the tail highlight on the left side, near the top. It's not supposed to be on the tip of the tail. Man, I'm bad at explaining things.. xD 12:35, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Moved the highlights, is that alright? The changes aren't showing (sorry that I keep on saying that xD)

Blur the highlights, shading, and earpink. Good job! 21:00, August 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded Blurred the highlights, shading and earpink more. And Thanks :3 Mi  st  y!  21:17, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Try to darken the highlights so they don't stand out as much. Lookin' good! 06:31, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Are the changes showing for you? Mi st  y!  07:01, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not that I can see. Don't worry though. With the amount of images this wiki has, changes may take some time to show up. 07:03, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Harrykit(Ki)-For Approval
The Gost Pazuzu ,the greatest villain ever! 06:45, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I moved this to the bottom of the approval section for you. Please keep that in mind next time. 06:50, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the blotch of shading on his shoulder/ face. Other than that, looks good. 13:01, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, there's no light source. Look at this on how to do shading. 22:34, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blackstar (A) - For approval
Since one image is declined and one is withdrawn, I made this one. Comments? 22:43, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded  22:47, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I fixed the heading for you. :D Blur the shading. 23:30, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on his white body and make sure there's shading on his farther hind legs away from us. I hope that makes sense... <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 23:32, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make his back paws black too. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:47, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Shade his underbelly. ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 04:08, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Shading looks fine. Just darken it a tad. 23:50, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 05:54, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

The changes don't seem to be showing. 06:03, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Give them some time. When there are a lot of images, sometimes the changes don't show. 06:05, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Beetlenose (W) - For Approval
Don't ask about the waste. I know it's there. But anyway, tis Beetlenose, and I think it's under the limit. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Take that you Dark <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">Lord! 23:07, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, its over the limit right now, but once what's supposed to be archived is archived, this will be okay. Remove the waste, and darkent eh shading on the tail. Make the background transparent, too. 23:12, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

I coulda sworn it was transparent, but anyway. Re-uploaded. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Take that you Dark <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">Lord! 23:24, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Better. Now lighten the highlights. 23:43, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''<font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Take that you Dark <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3"> Lord! 23:50, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? 12:47, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate and blur the shading on the tail a bit more. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:11, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Damn <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3"> Skippy. 23:45, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Don't forget to change the heading. This looks excellent, Skystar! I can see nothing wrong. 06:01, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Mapleshade (Q) ~ For Approval
I really like this one! Anyway, comments. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 23:30, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Make the stripes smaller, thinner, and add more. Also, blur the shading on the tail, make the eyes less cross-eyed. 23:36, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 00:12, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 00:22, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading. It's too dark, and makes the fur look more light gray then white. 05:12, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes a little more thin and even more of them. I know you did this alreayd, but they don't really match her Warrior stripes right now. Also, maybe lighten them just a tad? Looks great! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:39, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Mudfur (W) - Declined
Since I am not a kit anymore, I put Mudfur's warrior image for approval. Any comments? Stoneclaw33 August 27, 2011 01:31pm

Moved to teh correct section aaand..de-thumbed it xP srrys, but this is over the limit. This'll probably be declined 8I -- 20:40, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

You're right. This is one over the limit. As far as I know, you can still keep the image reserved though! =D 20:42, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Plus, Moonflight already has this image reserved. Stoneclaw, next time, please read over the table before you reserve a charart. 05:07, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Brook (PH)- For Approval
I re-did her to match the new blanks... Comments? 02:09, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. I'm looking at the right one. 03:06, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:29, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Whitefang (A) ~ For Approval
This will be the 35th image after what needs to be archived has been. Comments? 09:29, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpclaw (KP) - For Approval
Ok, there are two CBA and one declined image, when it will be archived there will be room for this cat. Right, there he is. Leaf-storm,9:50,August 28,2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 11:33, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area=

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Kit System Vote
Everybody check out this forum and place your votes. Please and thank you, 19:29, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sunfish
After some searching and contemplation, I managed to fish out a description of Sunfish based on her appearence in the graphic novel at the end of Crookedstar's Promise. Since then she's been given the status of planned, and I hope to snag the job of making her charart as soon as I'm done with Shellheart's elder image. I was juse wondering whether anyone can think of what color she should be made...

Typically when we go with default colors (and we have before when cats have only been described as tabbies) we've gone with brown. Should she be made light brown (since she appears to be a light colored cat in the graphic novel compared to the other cats) or a light gray to match the tone of the image in said graphic novel?

I am determined to get a charart for Sunfish made, if you couldn't tell. I rather like her as a minor character. 03:17, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be fine with you doing her gray, so long as no one else reserves it first. However, I don't think brown is a good idea, brown cats are quite rare. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 08:51, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Why can't we make her an orange/ginger cat since it is suspected that she's orange or yellow because of her name Sunfish. Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  16:12, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

If you can't tell what color she is, then she doesn't get a charart, simple as that 16:51, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I say make her a light gray. That seems to be what she looks like in the mini graphic novel at the end of CP. If Darkhallows says you can do it, do it. =) 23:03, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

If she appears a light gray color in the manga, then there are two options, a light brown or gray. There's your description. If you want to do her, take your pick. I think we agreed (?) on alternates for manga, so I don't see this any differantly. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 07:38, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can somebody get the picture in the book and show me? I think I've found something to colorize it, if it doesn't work, then it should be a choice. Is that ok by you guys? 14:30, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

The only place to find it on the web would be amazon.com. And thanks, Darkhallows. I'll go with gray if I manage to get the job of making the charart, I was mostly going with brown because that's what we make the tabbies with no color defined in the books and she appears in the manga to be the same color as Sandstorm from Ravenpaw's manga. 01:26, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed you said she appears "light gray" in the manga, but that's ONLY why, because the manga are always black and white not colour. Swee tflo wer 23:30, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Idea
I tried putting this on the page before, but it messed up, so let's try again. Since nobody is voting the keep the kit system as it is and I doubt that anyone will, do you think that we should (at least) allow the kits that were here over a week go ahead and become apprentices? I could always look in the archives and see when a kit asked to join, and tell a lead who has been here for a while. It's just a suggestion, but I think it'd be fair to do since I don't think anyone wants to keep the month-long kit system. 23:20, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's fine. But only the active ones; the ones who didn't comment don't need to be moved up if they won't participate. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:55, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

It's kind of hard to tell who's active and has been here for over a week. But soon, most kits are gonna be moved up to apprentices anyway, if not all, depending on which vote passes 00:02, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should wait, we have a lot of kits and apprentices, and the vote isn't over yet. I just don't think the kits who asked to join and then left should be apprentices. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:19, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well, no. But my friend is having troubles with her computer, but wants to help with the project, so I don't think she should be removed. 00:21, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Since we know, I don't think so either. But I don't think every kit needs to an apprentice if they haven't put too many comments down yet. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:25, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

We should look at the contributions for the kits that asked, and see how they did. If they only made one or two edits, then I say they stay kits. However, if they've made many, many contributive edits (like Shellheart did when she was a kit), then move them to the apprentice rank. We can't have tons of people becoming apprentices who don't deserve it. 00:43, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I have an idea, what if we have a set amount of comments that a kit should make in a certain period of time before they become an apprentice. And it has to be a PROPER comment, on that helps the image, not just the 'Looks great!' comments? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:46, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion, a kit should earn their ranking as an apprentice. A kit might join, and a week later, they've had no contributive edits since then. They should at least be able to put up good constructive comments (Like Paleclaw said) and be familliar by what is going on currently in the project. A kit might not even look at the page again after they join, so why would they become an apprentice? To me, a kit should earn his/her ranking just like a warrior and a senior warrior, it makes sense. 02:55, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think a certain amount of comments is a good idea. I think if they just give a plentiful ammount of good criticism and a week is what gets them to be an apprentice. If they do what Shellheart did, then they should become an apprentice. Unless they've been on vaction or having computer problems, then they shouldn't become apprentices if they don't do anything. And I agree with Splashpelt about earning apprenticeship, like apprentices earn warriors and warriors earn senior warriors etc. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 20:09, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Take this to the forum please. 18:08, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join again?
Can I join again? My computer was just rebuilt and I haven't been able to get on in a couple months. I have seven approved pictures so I don't know if you want me to start as an apprentice again or as a warrior, like I was if I can join again. Thanks! Moon 18:00, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back. I'll add you back as a warrior. I suggest you look at the guidelines again, theres been a lot of changes. 18:18, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) Moon  19:27, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add me in the Current Projects? Moon 19:36, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ya sure. 19:39, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again, just can't wait to start. Moon 19:44, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

RiverClan
Okay so a couple of people asked me if since its been said a couple of times that all RiverClan cats have long hair, should all the images be tweaked to be long haired? I personally think they should, but i wanted to hear everyones thoughts. Itd be a lot of work, so i was alos wondering if we should make it so that you can have one normal charart aswell as a tweaked one up for approval/reserved, and if we should bump the limit on the tweaking page up o 15 images. Thoughts? 19:09, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think that from now on all RiverClan cats should, but it'd be a lot to tweak all of that right now, honestly. It'd be a good project for a rainy day though :) 19:55, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think that should be the default for RiverClan, but only if they aren't said at any point to be short furred. And I think for WindClan the default should be short fur unless described as otherwise. 19:59, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. RiverClan should have long pelts, as well as WindClan having short, unless otherwise noted. As for what else you said, Iceheart, I agree. But, would that only apply to the Warriors, SW and other leads, or everyone? 21:19, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

It would take some time, and effort, but we could do it, of course, all the Riverclan images up now need to be long-haired. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:22, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it would still just be warriors and up, and there would be at least 38 RC images and 12 WC images. 23:41, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wait a minute, so should I change my Skyheart image to be longhaired? I guess I could do it.. 04:37, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Wow. That many images? Well, I'm sure we could get them all done, however, it might take a while. I think only the ones who know they can handle it should do it though. We don't want people going crazy trying to get multiple images done. =) 04:47, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I did a longhaired version of Skyheart, but I am not positive about the tail. If I really have to make it longhaired, then ok. 05:21, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I was talking about this earlier, and personally, I don't think we should re-do them all. It's counter-productive. However, from now on I would ask you do them longhaired. If everyone really wants to re-do them, I guess we could... but I'd rather not. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:41, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Since most people like longhaired blanks more than shorthaired ones, most chararts on this wiki are longhaired, so changing the RiverClan shorthairs to longhairs won't be too hard, but it might take longer to change all the WindClan longhairs to shorthairs. I think we should still change them, since this wiki is about accuracy, and we do everything exactly according to description. I understand that it would take a long time, so I like Iceheart's idea of each person getting to do one tweakpage image and one regular image. 16:00, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

It's actually not hard to change a cat's pelt length, all you have to do is fill the lines in with a strikingly different color so you can tell the difference, then make the new blank transparent, paste it over the old one, and adjust as needed. With long-haired ones, you'd erase the lines inside, then fill in the blank parts, although the tail might have to be redone. 16:04, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I had to re-do my tail. :P 17:35, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, during TW, we just redid all of the ones that needed different pelt lengths, so I think thats how we're going to do it. Its funner that way. xD I don't really like to tweak things; and I usually just start from scratch, since its easier to do it that way without ruining the shading, pelt colors, etc. 18:29, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

But with all the ones that need to be tweaked, yeah you'd get to redo it, but they'd get done a lot faster this way, and it's really not hard to do. We have a lot of characters we have to make longhaired 18:50, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

The only RiverClan cat that I believe does not need tweaking is Mistystar, because she is half ThunderClan, and she's descrived as sleek. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 19:14, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay added them to the forum, add yourself to the bottom chart, and dont go over the 15 image limit. 19:25, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

So, we're allowed one regular and one tweaking, or one or the other like before? Because I'm seeing people reserve tweaks when they've reserved a normal image 21:21, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it said so at the top of this discussion. 21:26, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I just hadn't known if we came to a consensus. 21:30, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, on the TW page, it says that the page limit is 15, so I'm guessing that it is that way. `

Can I become a apprentice?
I joined as a kit on 16 august.Now it's my time to become a apprentice.The gost,00:34,august 23,2011.(UTC)

Hold on please, we are debating on the kit rank, so wait a while please, okay, thanks ^^ Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 23:20, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

One Month Limit
It has been mentioned recently that images should have a limit to how long they can be up for approval. I agree completely. It should not take more than a week or two to get an image approved. There used to be a rule that an image could only be up for a month before it was declined. It seems that it was forgotten about. Personally I'd love to have it back. If no one has a problem with this, I'll remove the old images (that have been up for over two months, considering we just had TW) in a week. That should be enough time to get them approved. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 07:00, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with this 100% (....considering how long it took for Oakheart to get approved....) and I say this is something that needs to be put back into place. It would also give us the chance to get some newer ones up as well. 08:29, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

But what happens if someone's on vacation? Or if their computers not working... <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  12:23, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I don't want to sound overly critical but... Our job is to get images done. If someone can't get on to work on something, then isn't it better to have someone who can work take over? I've lost images to being on vacation, and don't get me started on the computer problems I had, but I cut my losses and found a new one to do. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 13:15, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. We should just get them done. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:53, August 23, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I agree with this. Some of the chararts have been up for a long time. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 14:57, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, only if they don't seem anywhere near being done by the time that time limit hits; if the artist is close, give them a little slack. 15:46, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

If they don't seem anywhere near being done, they can always ask for help. 16:05, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Being frank on the subject of "What if you go on vacation and can't get on to work on the image": If you have an upcoming vacation perhaps you should have abstained from working on something? Others shouldn't be punished by your being unable to finish it before you leave. I honestly think that an image should be done in 2 weeks, and if it isn't, you shouldn't have put it up at the point you were at. Granted ;) I'm a professionally trained graphic designer at this point. My standards might be a bit different than your typical hobbyist. 16:16, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Just a tad higher than are standards ;). Im so happy somebody agrees on this with me. I figured you would all think it was mean. Anyways, im on board, but how about if it gone through one CBA, but it gets interupted, they get another week? 16:19, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I think a one month limit is a good idea, and if CBA is interrupted, I think they should get another week as Iceheart said. We have the vacation week for a reason, for those who are asking about "What if you're gone?" If they seem like they'll be approved and it's been a month, let it stay up. <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 19:19, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I agree and don't. Okay, it is good that images will get done faster, but no one left any comments on Marshstar for 2 days and I thought it should have been approved, but it wasn't, so that wasted 2 days. Another thing is maybe we should have it so we can still have it on hold and edit the charart, after the month is up. Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  22:51, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay so how about this;

We Approve a image if it has gone more than atleast two days w/o a comment? Because really? It wastes time, and if we do that more warriors could be free, and work on images for TW? Cause really y'all, most of these images look GREAT *Sol's Kp and Warrior image xD* and go a while w/o comments, why not approve them? Saves time and that way we don't have upset Apprentices. Or some really immature warriors ;P Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 23:37, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I always thought it was 24 hours without a comment...? Regardless, images gone without comments should be approved, instead of just letting them sit there. Plus, until a lead sees it, you'd have to do some "improvement" to the image that would haven't been done had a lead archived it. XD 03:02, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I dont see a reason why they should be approved if they dont go through CBA. We dont need to add so many more rules are heads are spinning. But i think leads should have the power to over rule a CBA interuption if its something minor like the ear pink needs to be changed or the shading blurred after the person said 9 times it wont blur anymore. 03:29, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if an image has gone multiple days without comments, should it really need to go through another 24 hours? I'm not arguing you, Iceheart. I'm just playing the part of the reasonable arguer. The leads should have the power to overrule the interruptions. We just had that issue with Foxleap and Harley (both alts, I think). The CBA was interrupted for minuscule reasons (which Foxleap caused a minor argument between Mintstarr and I, but that's besides the point). 03:46, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

No sorry that was confusing. What i meant was, i dont think that images should be approved without CBA, but if they were to be, it should at least be three days without comment, not three days + CBA time. 05:01, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'd rather not make it confusing and just have any image thats over a month old be declined. The way we had it before, the user could always reupload the image if they were still interested in it, we did not remove the reservation. Even if they did try it again, it saved SO much page space and let other users have a chance to do a charart. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:27, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Darkhallows. Although maybe a month and a week? <font color="green" style="background:turquoise">☾Mint☽ Can you go downtown with me? 14:28, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Shall we put the one month limit into play now with the chararts that have been up for more than a month or start fresh and those older can stay up? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 22:19, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Join?
I asked to join a while ago, but my name hasn't been added to the list of kits. I'm sorry if i sound impatient, but am i still a kit? I'm not sure if you are still debating the kit system, if that's why I'm not added, but I'd like to know if I'm allowed to join. Thanks!

DaRk <font color="Red">RiVeR 16:36, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

The kit system is over and done. Sure you can rejoin, I'll add you back in. Go ahead and review our basic guidelines once again, some things have changed. Welcome back! <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 20:34, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join?
I heard the kit system ended today, so can I join as an apprentice? 18:09, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

PCA i was wondering if i could become an apprentice. I have been making a few charats and would like to post them for approval. if you could leave a message on my talk page that would be great. Thankyou

here is one of my charats it is Tallstar as deputy



Hello, I've got the same question, so: Can I please become a apprentice???

Here's one of my Chararts. I can't add shadings, but I will learn it. :P Fireheart002 18:43, August 23, 2011 (UTC)Fireheart002

Sure, I'll add you all back in. Please review our basic guidelines to get started. Also have a look at our apprentice tutorials, they'll teach you how to shade and everything. Welcome to the project (welcome back to Squirrelflame). <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 20:38, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Tweak Suggestion
Just a suggestion, on the Tweak page, there should probably be a link to the pictures that need tweaking. I would do it, but I think it'd be better left up to a lead so I don't mess something up.

Also, have we decided on the kits? 23:48, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

We'll see what the leads say :3 And yeah, kits are no more xD 03:11, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Got it. 03:24, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but you were talking about kits.. So, now that we're apprentices, are we allowed to do charart now? Mi st  y!  01:14, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah you are, but you need to wait until there is less than 35 images up, rules^^ Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 01:17, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Can I Join?
May I please join as an apprentice? I tried posting earlier an it didn't work. Moonstorm88 15:32, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure when, but you're already a member. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 20:40, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

READ THIS
I remember asking to be an apprentice here about four times already. This is SO UNFAIR! I can do Charart. I can. So why don't you give me a chance? May StarClan light your path... 20:33, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

When did you ask? When was the last time you posted here? Most likely you were removed due to being inactive. Users have to stay active in order to stay in the project. But I can add you back in if you'd like. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 20:39, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hazlewing, I really don't think you need to get all mad about it. We've been really busy lately, and it's possibly your request wasn't seen. 20:42, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

You were removed due to inactivity. This is the first post you've made on the PCA talk pahe in over a month. Would you like to rejoin calmly and politly? 01:26, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hazel, chill, it's fine, we'll add you back in, but ask, clamly, and don't be rude please... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:27, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Join
Can I join? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Fear the pink <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">mist! 11:42, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sure! I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines to get started. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 20:43, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Harveymoon
I have a question about his charart. Shouldn't he have a collar? He is a day-light warrior, and he was seen with one in The Rescue. Mi st  y!  17:54, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think he should, because it was proved in The Rescue. So I say yes. 20:10, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Then this should be added to the Forum for Tweaked things. I'll add it... 00:23, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! Mi st  y!  00:48, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join?
I would like to join to do like lark or some oneThunderjay 23:24, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, another new guy! x) Just wait till a lead to add u in, would ya? -- 23:27, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ok go it Thunderjay 23:30, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

@BlueOrca; in the rules it says that no one is allowed to comment or welcome new users in until a lead does, so save your welcomes for later. ;D 00:21, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

When will a lead come? Thunderjay 02:15, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Relax, we're coming. Sure, I'll add you in. Please look at the basic guidelines and apprentice tutorials to get started. Welcome to the project. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 20:08, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Help!
Uh...Whenever I try to update my picture for approval: ;), it keeps reverting it to the first picture I uploaded. Here is the file name: Minnowkit (CP).kit.png ;D

P.S. I might be inactive soon due to school starting.

It happens to everyone. The image system is overloaded by users that disobey the image policy and upload multiple images for themselves. Don't worry, it will update eventually. 00:53, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! :)

Can I join? ;)
Hi. I was wondering if I could join? Thanks! ;D

Sure, I'll add you in. Please look at the basic guidelines and apprentice tutorials to get started. Welcome to the project. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 20:09, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Two at a time?
I thought you could only make 1 charart at a time? CinderxLion is currently doing two... 16:44, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I looked, and I don't see Cinder doing two. Unless there's something I missed...Rainwhiper took over Sedgewhisker... 17:38, August 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Frankly I think we should be allowed to do two at a time. Stuff would get done so much faster that way. At the very least warriors should be allowed that privlidge. 01:07, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think doing two at a time would crowd the talk page a lot more, unless there are more strict limits. <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  01:13, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think doing two at a time would crowd the talk page a lot more, unless there are more strict limits. <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  01:13, August 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with that, but, it would just cause more problems. We'd still hear the apprentices complain because they only get to do one at a time, while the warriors / leads get to do two. I say, for now, keep it as it is. If we have to change it, we have to change it. I'm only doing two tweaked images because Iceheart told me I could finish up Stormfur, since no one took him. 01:11, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Leafpool
I was just wondering...Should Leafpool have a queen image? ;)

<font face="Papyrus" font color="#66ffff"> Twilightheart   <font face="Papyrus" font color="#66ffff"> The Stars Align...  21:06, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Didn't we have this discussion a while ago? And...I don't know xD 21:19, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

It was agreed that neither she nor her sister would get queen images, as neither were ever shown in the books as queens. By the time the Sight began, Squirrelflight had left the nursery (and was never really a queen anyway), and Leafpool never entered the nursery or aknowledged to her Clanmates that she was carrying kits. We only create character art for ranks the cats are seen or mentioned as. 21:23, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, Shellheart. Same goes for Yellowfang. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 21:26, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Though with Yellowfang, couldn't she get one if she's seen pregnant in Yelllowfang's Secret? I forget, is it just pregnant cats, or pregnant cats that enter the nursery? And if the latter is the case, why give Nutmeg a queen art (or any kittypet for that matter)? Sorry, don't mean to contradict myself, I just think we need to set clearer guidelines on this. If we only go with cats that are shown pregnant or nursing and in the nursery, then no non-clan cats would technically get a queen image... 01:04, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think any she-cat shown to be expecting kits/has young kits, should be given a queen sprite, and that goes for Leafpool. Technically, she was seen as expecting, because in After Sunset: The Right Choice?, she was wondering what would happen once her kits were born. 01:14, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Squirrelflight needs one too because in the sight she was in the queens section, and her clanmates belived that she was a queen. Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  13:22, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Squirrelflight, no. Leafpool, yes. Squirrelflight was NEVER pregnant. She was never shown expecting kits. But, yes, sicne Leafpool appeared in the After Sunset story pregnant, she needs a queen image. Mapleshade is getting one just for mentioning that she was once pregnant. Leafpool needs one as well. 16:55, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

I am seriously tired of this debate. It comes up every couple of weeks, and its always decided they dont get an image. Next time its being archived before anyone can say anything. Leafpool was never recognized by the clan as to being in the rank of queen. She doesnt get a pixel. All the other cats out side of the clans with queen pixels were recogninzed by the clans that they were queens while they still were queens. Leafpool never was. Go find the guidelines for queen images that are archived some where and you'll see. 18:23, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

That's not fair. She was seen expecting, and that should be a just enough reason to give her a queen image, guidelines or not. Mapleshade gets one for mentioning she was pregnant. Now, how is that fair? In Just After Sunset: The Right Choice? she was seen as expecting. If we're going to play that game, Nightcloud should have her queen image removed. It was only mentioned that she had a kit. We never saw it. 18:27, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

And if you go by that logic, Iceheart, then Squirrelflight would have a queen image simply because she was recognized and listed as a queen. Either one or the other, Iceheart. It's the only thing that makes sense. 18:33, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

The queen blanks are for queens who were in the nursery. Squirrelflight contiued with warrior duties while she was a 'queen'. So no she doesnt get one. And please before you post your next point, go through the archives, see that its already been made, proven not a good enough point, and that they dont meet the guidelines. And honestly, if you feel we need go, we can take down Nightclouds image. 18:40, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

If you're going to clamp down on restrictions like this for main characters, it needs to be done for minor characters as well. It's not only Nightcloud that has a queen image when she was never seen or listed as one. Squirrelflight was at least listed as one. Nutmeg was never once called a queen or recognized by a Clan cat to be one. The only Clan cat we know she knew was Firestar, and he was a kittypet then. Seriously, it's a confusing guideline and it needs to be straightened up and enforced. 18:45, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Shellheart is right. ( God, this is going to f-up my SW nomination... I'm arguing with a lead... ) If Squirrelflight was listed as one, that should be removed. She was never a queen. Same for Nutmeg. Although we know she's Firestar's mother, she was never seen as a queen. This needs to be straightened up...and in case you haven't noticed, all of those claims were made before the Warriors App came out. The Right Choice? is in the Warriors App. 18:50, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly is right. But, this is going NOWHERE, how about this, Darkhallows gives us the final word, and if this debate comes up again, we get rid of it, this is a waste of EVERYONE's time. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:54, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Either way, in the end one of Firestar's kids gets queen art. 20:49, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dont be so sure. I was originally agreeable with Leafpool getting one, but then it became this snippy little agruement and made me think not everybody will be happy with whatever we choose, so its best not to bother at all. And cloudskye,the story has been on the warrior website for more than a year, its nothing new. 20:53, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart, no it hasn't. That's After Sunset: We Need To Talk. There are two different ones. The Right Choice? has only been out since June. One regards Leafpool and Crowfeather (We Need To Talk) and the other is a conversation between Brambleclaw and Leafpool (The Right Choice?. I'll be happy with whatever decision is made regarding the lineart. My personal opinion is that Leafpool deserves one though. 20:58, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Whenever Yellowfang's Secret comes out, if it shows her pregnant and giving birth to her kits, won't she get a queen image? I mean, I believe there's already been a short story that Brokenstar's birth was featured in, so she should have one anyway. Of course, that would be going by the same logic we would be using if we gave Leafpool an image. The same logic used when giving Mapleshade an image. Just going by listing? Then that would mean Squirrelflight would have one, even though she was never pregnant. Just leaving it is not the way to go. If you want to run a successful project, you must be decisive and clear. The rule regarding the definition of a queen is confusing and not followed half the time anyway. Make a choice, already. 21:10, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay here are the guideleines that we decided on but for some reason never made it into the guidelines (Scarletwind found them for me)


 * Have bore kits of their own.
 * It must be known by the clan that they were going to have kits. (I don't think only the cat's mate would count. Like it would have to be common knowledge within the clan, unless they were loners/rogues/etc.)
 * Have been seen in the nursery with their kits.

Niether of Firestars kits meet those. 21:29, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

But that rule makes it impossible for cats not in Clans (or typically just cats not in ThunderClan) to have queen images, and it's not even followed most of the time. Again, Nightcloud is an example. And Maplewhisker, who was never seen with any kits and only talked about them. The rule needs to be changed to encompass kittypets, rouges, and loners, and it needs to either have cats only mentioned to be queens allowed to have images or not. I'd dare say that 70% of the queen images on here violate that rule. Obviously it needs to change.

I'm not being argumentative just for the sake of it, you're just repeating the same thing over and over when I have a valid point, and others agree with me. The queen rule must be changed, or the only cats that should technically have images are mostly in ThunderClan, as we almost never see other Clan nurseries. 21:53, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

And I still say cats only mentioned to be queens should still be allowed to have queen images. I say this on the basis that we have charart for cats only mentioned to be in any other rank, such as Tallstar and Blackstar as kits, or any other cat that is only listed in alliegences but not seen in the books. To make special rules for queens and no other rank is confusing and backwards. 22:01, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Those guidelines were put in line in case it wasn't obvious. Like, no one would deny that Princess wasn't a queen. We have no reason to believe that queens from the other clans wouldn't stay with their kits, and if we did find out that they didn't, the charart would just be removed. Squirrelflight never really earned the rank as queen. It's kinda like when Ravenpaw said that he, Barley, and Violet were warriors for one night, they acted as warriors but never really had the rank. "Queens move to the nursery about a moon before giving birth, surrendering their warrior duties." Leafpool and Yellowfang never moved into the nursery. "While kits are weaned at two moons, the queens remain in the nursery until they are named apprentices." Leafpool and Yellowfang never stayed with their kits and Squirrelflight spent most of her time in the warriors den, leaving a lot of the education to Ferncloud and Daisy. She was never able to feed them either. I'm not trying to sound rude or blunt, I'm just trying to get my point across and sometimes I come off a bit blunt when I do so. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 00:10, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't worried about the definition of a queen in the books. The definition in this project is what needs changing. 01:17, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Mapleshade
Since she went to the Dark Forest for attacking the Clans all the time, do you think she counts as a rogue? shouldn't she get a rogue charart? 23:37, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. That would indeed classify her as a rouge. 01:05, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Would she have it as her current image? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Damn <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3"> Skippy. 16:41, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Probably, as that's most likely the state in which she died as she is still attempting to do harm to the Clans. 18:39, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Apprentice Blank
There seems to be something wrong with it. I was trying to open up the image to pixlr, and start coloring. I tried to open it up through URL. It came up with all the lineart blurry and hard to see. I'm trying to do a charart but it's hard to go over all of the lines. Is it just me or is something wrong with it? <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  01:40, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it's just Pixlr... 13:31, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's just Pixlr. I use GIMP, and the linearts work just mine for me, including the MCA. 19:00, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you should download the blank instead (right click on the blank "Save Image as" on the file page), then open it. That's what I do. 19:37, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Just so you know, Pixlr is not reccomended for coloring blanks I use Paint.net and GIMP 2. Both of them work fine and they dont glitch. 19:50, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

I've used Pixlr, and it works just as well as GIMP, especially if you can't download programs. The only problem I've ever had with it is that you can't blur as much as GIMP or Photoshop. 20:46, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion, Pixlr is much better than GIMP. GIMP's dodge tool is not the greatest. Pixlr works fine for me. 20:55, August 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Just so you know I'm trying to get opinions on different sites and programs, I was trying to what the problem was. I normally use Pixlr and it's fine for me, but I can use GIMP, Photoshop, Paint and so. All the other blanks are fine. <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  08:22, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Can i join?
Can i join the PCA? I have some charats i'd like to post for approval.Acornfur 13:35, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, I'll add you in. Please take a look at the guidelines and some tutorals so you know what to do. :] 13:40, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can i join?
Can i join the PCA? I have some charats i'd like to post for approval.Acornfur 13:35, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can i join?
Can i join the PCA? I have some charats i'd like to post for approval.Acornfur 13:40, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Try not to post this so many times, Acornfur. I know this probably was on accident, but try not to click the button so many times, if that is the case. ;) 06:20, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

May i join?
Can i join char art? I have gimp :P

Can I join?
I'd like to join the Char art, i have gimp and i made my own profile pic :3 ~Dandeliontail~ I wuv you :D 15:39, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Okay, so during Tweak week, i asked to become a kit/apprentice, and I want to take a image, but my name isn't on the list, can someone add my name please? Flowerpatch 17:08, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Be patient, the leads will add you as soon as they can :] 18:35, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

* I'm being mean and using Maple's account, my sis won't mind, right sista?* Okay. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:57, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can i join?
Can i Join the PCA?

Blossomshine 20:01, August 27, 2011 (UTC) Blossomshine

When is the next tweak weak? Cloverstar

We don't know^^; Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 23:43, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join?
I just installed an art program and i enjoy doing art on paint, but I cant use the blending tool to make my cats look warrior cat-ish. Please?Brindlestar 23:55, August 27, 2011 (UTC)