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Bluestar (Alt. Ki2)- For Approval


In the allegiances for Bluestar's Prophecy, she was described as a gray she-cat with blue eyes, and, in case you couldn't tell by my username, she's my favorite character, so I snatched her up as soon as I found out she would get one for that. Comments? Bluestar11796 23:03, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Not bad. Brighten the ear-pink and darken the shading. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 23:37, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! Blur the left ear's earpink. 00:14 Fri Dec 2

Cute! Define the shading and highlights. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:53, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 02:18, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the --> (right) side of her. 23:54, Fri, Dec, 2, 2011

Lighten the shading on the paws. 19:07, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes might not be showing. Bluestar11796 19:53, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks as if it's not in the right place on ---> this side. 21:21 Sat Dec 3

And center this ---> ear pink. And blur <--- this sides earpink a bit. 22:50 Sat Dec 3

This looks the color of her pale alt, which is still kinda blue-gray, maybe color pick from her gray leader alt? It'd look more gray probably. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  06:59, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 21:22, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Enlargen and center the ear pink. Darken and blur the shading, it looks like you have none. 21:33, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 23:16, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the lineart is gray and define the shading. 02:05, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed the gray lineart, defined the shading, and got rid of some waste i found; changes not showing. Bluestar11796 17:29, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I found some more waste, and changes are still not showing. Bluestar11796 17:53, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and smooth out the shading on the <-- 21:01, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the right ear pink. 21:54, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

The shading placement is off, I belive. If not, lighten the shading on <--- that side and blur it so it looks a little bit better. 23:12, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

As said above and blur the shading too 23:55, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the nose color different from the pelt color, as it looks the same. 05:34, Tue, Dec, 6, 2011

As said already BLUR THE SHADING TOOOOONS! Also the shading placement is off it should be on the neck and on the legs too. 14:36, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded it looks blotchy, but I can't blur it anymore. Bluestar11796 16:11, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like there are white streaks on her face and chest. Make those gray. 16:45, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes might not be showing. Bluestar11796 19:23, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the nose a bit, and blur the highlights (if any) and shading to make them blend more together. 22:29, December 6, 2011 (UTC). The whole pelt color looks blotchy and uneven, smooth it out 23:56, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can't blur it anymore. Bluestar11796 00:07, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sure you can. Smooth it out. 01:02, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

It's possible to blur it. If you're using pixlr, change to something else. I know pixlr only allows you to blur so much. 03:23, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

I do use pixlr at school, but I can't use gimp right now 'cause I'm at school right now, and I can't download anything on the school computers. Bluestar11796 17:52, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Use the Gaussian blur on pixlr. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  19:51, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpinks. 21:49 Thu Dec 8

Are you still working on this? 20:25, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take over. :3 01:08, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

It hasn't been seven days yet. 01:46, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes not showing. And sorry for the delay; my computers at home are crashing, so I haven't been able to get on, but I remembered that my school has photoshop, so, yeah. Bluestar11796 17:43, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the shading placement, then blur a LOT. Do you use layers? Brightstripes 16:18, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I just started using layers, but it's kinda hard with photoshop, because you can't change the background, and that's all I can use right now. I'll try, though. Bluestar11796 18:56, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading darker and you're good to go. 00:18, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think the changes are showing. Bluestar11796 14:32, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

There's a ton of blurred lineart on both sides. 00:19, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading a ton, define the earpink, and make the eyes less neon.

Reuploaded I basicly redid the whole image, cause I don't know how to fix blurred lineart, and who did the comment above mine? You forgot to sign. And I'll leave the eye color the way it is because she has peircing, ice-blue eyes unless more people agree with you. Changes not showing. Bluestar11796 16:23, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. 21:27, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the color match her leader image, right now it looks to dark/gray. 22:21, Fri, Dec, 16, 2011

Perhaps make the ear pink pointed a bit more. -- 07:06, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger. 18:29 Sat Dec 17

Reuploaded Believe it or not, the colors were taken from her leader alternate. Bluestar11796 19:32, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and darken the shading. 20:01 Sat Dec 17

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 23:29, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Add some depth in the shading, it looked a bit flat. - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  02:57, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 22:21, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the base colour and darken the shading. 01:08 Tue Dec 20

Reuploaded Changes not showing. Bluestar11796 01:26, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Please note that if this is not complete in ten days, it will be declined. You need to smooth out the shading a lot and blur the ear pink. 19:05, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur out the highlights blur the shading and blur the earpink... 23:43, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs to be more defined to me, and the earpink needs to be redone because it is not the right shape. I mean, one is circular but the other is not. Also the left ear's earpink appears to be too close to lineart. And is it just me, or is the ear pink too light? a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 02:33, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? Because if not I will do it. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 15:05, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 20:05, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Your shading placement is a bit off. Check the apprentice tutorials for shading placement, or just try to figure out a way of doing shading that has a definitive light source. Blur the shading a bunch, define the earpink, and darken the eyes so they match the other images. 21:37 Wed Dec 21

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 22:19, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Define th earpink. F i r e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  23:47, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink (esp. on the ---> ear) to make it more visible. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 13:32, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 17:53, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Defone the earpink, again. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  00:50, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 23:24, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and darken the shading. <span style="">23:41, Fri, Dec, 23, 2011

Also, this > earpink looks like it fell over. Fix that and I'll CBA it  18:54, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Voleclaw (A) ~ For Approval
I GOT VOLECLAW :D I copied all of the shading and colors from his warrior so dont be slapping me 4 that :P 13:45, December 8, 2011 (UTC) (im going to eventually set up my sig on here :P )

Blur the shading a lot and try to make it look like it's coming from one light source. Nice job, though. ^^ 14:11, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and smudge where the earpink meets the gray, and the two paws farthest from us should be darker to match with the shading. 14:14, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLAODED, changes aren't showing :| 14:29, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading placement more like the one in the tutorial. The shading doesn't make sense right now. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  17:32, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add depth to the eye and smudge the pelt color into the earpink so he looks floofeh =3 18:13, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

And add a white pixel to the eye if it's not already there. *can't see it* ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  19:06, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

He seems darker than his other images, or is it just my bad eyes? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="maroon" >Sky..... <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="blue"> Just...dust and echoes 00:01, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Either lighten the shading on the tail or darken the shading on the belly and legs. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 00:03, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. I can see the layers in which they get stronger. 20:12, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Bluefeathers friend here, she said she'd reupload it tomorrow. 14:07, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think I will re-do this tomorrow as I cannot stand how this is. And I can't really fix the shading placement because for some reason, on Pixlr, every time I use gaussian blur on it, it changes the placement :\ 00:39, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

If you need any help, if the shading isn't going right, I could help you. <span style="">01:47 Tue Dec 13

REUPLOADED Mrrrrrrrrrooooooowwwwwwwww :P 12:23, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

THIS IS BOOTIFUL BLUEFEATHER! No comments from me :) Grayflower10 16:22, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Don't leave a comment just for complimenting the image unless there haven't been any comments for a couple days, please, Grayflower. Blur the shading and smudge the earpink into the ears a bunch. The shading still doesn't make a lot of sense. You also need to fix your signature, Bluefeather. <span style="">19:53 Tue Dec 13

Ok, first of all, i've been having SO MUCH TROUBLE WITH SMUDGING. This entire time it's been for approval i've been trying to smudge it in but it just won't. I did the shading exactly like the apprentice tutorial....and I honestly don't think that the shading needs blurred. Not trying to say that I won't blur it but I just don't see why it needs blurred. And Sweetflower is making me a sig so it'll be fixed soon :) 20:03, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay well I can't see any lack of shading on the shoulder ("highlights", if you will) and it doesn't make much sense. It'll look a lot better if you add some "highlight" (just erase the shading) on the shoulder and then blur it manually if you use Gaussian blur. <span style="">01:29 Wed Dec 14

Are you still working on this, Bluefeather? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 00:21, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED, yes I am. I just used dodge on it if that's alright.. 18:42, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it a ton, if you look at this charart and the warrior image close to each other, the warrior is much lighter. Hmmm..lighten the shading? 20:41, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink into the pelt to make it look natural. 21:50, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the ear-pink into the pelt. <span style="">16:06 Sun Dec 18

How do you smudge ear-pink into a pelt because i've tried numerous times and it always ends up going out. :\ 15:45, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED, did I break him? 16:40, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and smudge it into the ear some more. Blur the shading and darken it slightly. <span style="">01:14 Tue Dec 20

She asked me to reupload this 4 her FerretclawLover 21:38, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the elbow so it looks like it's sticking out like the pose suggests. Breeze whisker  00:24, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink. YOu use the smudge tool. <span style="">01:43 Wed Dec 21

Add the smudge tool. <span style="">21:38 Wed Dec 21

REUPLOADED 14:46, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me. CBA? 22:41, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt, but this is a lot darker than the warrior image. Fix that? And blur and lighten the earpink a bit. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:18, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Firestar(A) ~ For Approval
Here he is. Not my best. Comments? <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  02:53, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think he should be short haired. 02:55, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and make him match the leader image. 02:55, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur his markings more and define the shading. Smudge the pelt into the earpink 02:56, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

I made him short-haired and I'll do everything else in the morning. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  03:22, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. RE-UPLOADED. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  22:29, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to match the leader better. <span style="">00:55 Sat Dec 10

And blur where the belly meets the ginger. 02:00, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm gonna withdraw this. I'm not quite ready for Firestar yet. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  03:21, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take over. I'll reuploaded this ASAP. 17:10, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Sandstorm. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  17:25, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Uploaded Okay I re-did the stripes the best I could and I also tweaked a few other things. 17:41, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, lighten the stripes, belly, and earpink, and make the stripes match the leader image better. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  17:51, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded okay I color picked off of his leader image and I did my very best with the stripes. 18:12, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the transition from the belly to the pelt. 18:14, December 10, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I smudged it a touch too. Changes not showing. 18:15, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

You probably took the colors from the shaded part of the image, cause the stripes are still too dark. Lighten them. And they don't really match the leader image still.... ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  18:37, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

I took it from the non-shaded part of the image. Okay, I looked at the Firestar leader image and I mached it to the best of my ability okay? It matches it the way I see it. 18:45, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading and make the stripes sharper at the ends. 19:32, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pale belly come to a point instead of being round at the top  19:51, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well I'm sorry, but it doesn't match. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:33, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the pelt into the earpink. <span style="">23:06 Sat Dec 10

Add shading and highlights. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  04:12, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

No, she just has to add shading. She can add highlights if she wants to, but it's not necessary. 18:00, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ok sorry.

Reuploaded Okay Ivystripe gave me a redline. Better? 18:48, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

It's fine, Firestar ;3 And yes, Better Sandstorm. Define the shading even more and blur together the markings. 18:52, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes not showing. Give all of the credit to Ivystripe. 19:31, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading more and the stripes still need to be lightened a bit. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:29, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Stripes fail :P 01:29, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes to make it look like the other images and blur the shading so that it blends more into the unshaded parts. 01:34, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Those are the right amount of stripes. I should know since I did all but his leader image (if I had done the leader I would have done the stripes differently) 01:49, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thank you for referencing Ivystripe 02:02, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Alright. Blur the lighter part of his fur a bit more. 02:38, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes not showing. 23:37, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Umm nobody's commented in three days... bad? 21:45, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Defione the stripes, blur and darken the shading, and smudge the ear pink into the pelt. 00:20, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

All right, this definitely isn't enough stripes... Also, the stripe closest to his back leg shouldn't be curved. 00:23, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 00:44, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Okay ivystripe gave me that redline so.. Take it up with her >_>;; I'll reupload this tomorrow anyway. 03:43, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Eww >_> 00:57, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink to make it look more realistic. <span style="">18:32 Sat Dec 17

Reuploaded Is that better? 20:57, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading into the pelt. 22:40, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken shading please. <span style="">16:14 Sun Dec 18

Reuploaded >_>;;; 17:16, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and I have an issue with that stripe closest to his back leg. I looked at this "redline" Ivy gave to you and it's not nearly as curved on there. Fix it. In addition, the eyes should be a brighter green. 00:19, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I used layers and re-did it :D 01:56, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink by making it paler and make the stripes pointier. - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  02:59, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ear pink fail >_< 03:13, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

He needs a pale underbelly and everything should be lightened. 16:34, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink. - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  21:28, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oh underbelly color fail >_< 01:41, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the underbelly and brighten the whole thing, his leader is positively flamey :3 Also, define the "highlights". 03:31, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the belly more pale orange, less yellow. 20:46, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Either I have bad eyes or the shading needs to be darkened. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 02:40, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay I just darkened the shading just a bit because somebody else told me to lighten the hole thing. 02:47, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

The image just needs to be more flame colored but do that without changing the shading, the shading is fine. 16:53, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Also, Featherwillow, defining the highlights is pretty much brightening them, and some user don't even use highlights like me, because highlights are artist's choice. 17:02, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay Stoneclaw, I took all of the colors from his leader image so, I'm not gonna change it. 02:04, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the highlights on the face (and if you don't use highlights, then where the shading isn't). I'd put a patch of light on the back, it'll help lighten the color without having to change it. Blur the pale belly and make sure it goes all the way along his belly; it looks like it stops about 3/4ths of the way there. <span style="">00:47 Fri Dec 23 00:47, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the tip it, looks better now. 02:22, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink, brighten the whole image, and make the belly color match the leader. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  06:57, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the legs. They appear brown and not like the rest of him. Breeze whisker  03:12, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Wait doesn't Firestar have more stripes than this? Or is this just because of the way the apprentice is set up? 19:27, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded I didn't lighten teh legs much because the shading is centored on the back. And Cinder don't comment just to ask a question, okay? 19:30, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpen the tips of the stripes. And Cinder was actually fine, she was asking a question about the image. Basically asking "Shouldn't this have more stripes?" and no Cinder, despite how it looks, the amount of stripes is fine. I know it looks like less though. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:15, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Featherwhisker (MCA) ~ For Approval
My first drawing in this Wiki :3 What do you think about Featherwhisker? :3 - Starforce StarClan 11:47, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

This is over the limit I think.... 12:53, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, what? xD Starforce StarClan 12:56, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Only 35 images can be on this page. This is the 36th one. 12:57, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, I'm not very often at this Wiki^^ - Starforce StarClan 12:59, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes and hes longhaired and not a she-cat, change it for next time ,13:31,December 9,2011 (UTC)

I'm removing the decline, as the page limit has just become 50. Make him long furred. 15:17, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

And male. 15:17, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly, you just made my day <3 Smudge the earpink into the pelt more. 19:47, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Tweaked the heading so no one will get confused. Define the nose colour. 20:55, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

re-uploadet ^^ - Starforce StarClan 16:43, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink, as you didn't when asked before. :3 16:45, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Also, this needs to be uploaded here. 16:48, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploadet and also saved in Featherwhisker.mca.png, sry i didn't read this about the earpink ^^ - Starforce StarClan 16:51, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights if you use them, and if not, just darken the whole image. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  17:53, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

And the nose should be dark grey. 21:11, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''re-uploadet. @Paleclaw, sorry I don't understand what you mean, I'm not so good at english :/. I used now to make the shading a little bit darker ^^ - Starforce StarClan 21:41, December 10, 2011 (UTC)'''

The shading needs to be blurred a lot, but the head shading looks alright. <span style="">07:08, Sun, Dec, 11, 2011

Smooth the shading specifically along the back. 23:05, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make his whiskers longer to fit his description. 03:50, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

re-uploadet - Starforce StarClan 18:30, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 00:22, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

And smooth the shading too. It is blotchy in some places. <span style="">05:47, Thu, Dec, 15, 2011

Make the color match the MC image. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  07:59, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and tone down the highlights if you use them. Breeze whisker  21:48, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Starforce? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 00:17, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

If Starforce isn't, may I work on this? 01:01, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

No, not yet. It hasn't been a week. They get a full seven days. 02:59, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Smoothen out the shading. -- 00:11, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Starforce gave me permission to do this. I'll reupload ASAP 14:05, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ear pink fail :P 01:23, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Define the "highlights" tons, it needs to be lighter, and seriously smudge the earpink down. :3 03:28, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

There's no highlights' to define. Add highlights to the face and front haunch. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  03:30, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the whole image so it matches the MC better, darken the shading, add shading to the herbs, and take the earpink color from the MC. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  10:40, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Also, make the eyes match the MC image... they look red. 01:32, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

A big chunk of the earpink is missing so fix that, and define/darken the shading. May just be me, but can you make the herbs different colors or is that unneeded? a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 02:43, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Did I hated it so I just re-did it. 03:03, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and lighten the color of the eyes. 16:51, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

In his description it says he has long, feathery whiskers. I think his whiskers should be longer and he should get an extra whisker but I'm not sure. 18:34, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and add some depth to the eyes. I agree with Mountainheart on the whiskers thing :3 <span style="">21:41 Wed Dec 21

Reuploaded I didn't add an extra whisker, I just made it longer like the MC image. 02:09, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you smudged/blurred part of the ear closest to us. It also looks really dark, but if it's the same color picked off his MC image, then don't change it  04:19, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Add the shading to the back leg farthest from us. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 13:34, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay I just earsed all around the ear just to be sure and I took the ear pink from the other image. 00:37, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 01:08, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded The changes aren't showing. 02:27, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton, lighten the earpink to match the MC, and make the eyes more yellow-orange (amber) and less plain orange. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  06:55, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay I took the eye color from the MC 17:23, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <span style="">23:44, Fri, Dec, 23, 2011

Reuploaded 20:56, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Cute! Make the eyes less red. Moonstorm88 22:20, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I took the eye color from the MC. 22:47, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

You took it from the wrong part. That's the shaded part of the eye. Take it from the middle color, not the darkest or lightest one. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:13, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

There is soem waste on the outside of the front paw to the cat's right. <span style="">00:11, Sun, Dec, 25, 2011

Dovewing (A) ~ For Approval
Not sure i like this... 15:23, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make her lighter. Take the colors right from her warrior image. 15:26, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

I did take the colors straight from her but gaussian blur broke her :( So I simply had to dodge it. REUPLOADED, changes aren't showing, I think :P 15:29, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink please. Also correct me if I'm worng but the shading looks like it's in the wrong places, kind of like just a big streak going across her body. Look at the shading placement in the apprentice tutorials if you need help. <span style="">22:43, Fri, Dec, 9, 2011

Yes it is wrong. There needs to be shading onher back hanch and across her spine should be shading not highlights. Just making things specific :3 <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  22:44, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest taking a look here for where the shading goes. <span style="">23:35 Fri Dec 9

The eyes don't look pale golden to me...did you take that from her warrior? Make sure you add depth to her eyes as well  20:10, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add depth to the eyes as well. 20:17, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't the eye style artists choice? 02:36, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Eye style is but shading an eye isn't style. Without shading it just looks flat and that's not realistic. 04:03, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Message from Loudy(I'm Loudy's real life friend): I'll reupload it as soon as possible.

Ah, okay. Sorry for the mishap. (and sorry that I am posting nonsense comments right now xD)  20:20, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink. <span style="">12:07 Tue Dec 13

Um....Blue here, Loudy needed me to get on her computer and upload this because she has a softball tournament today. 12:48, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Either the base pelt or shading needs to be lightened, me thinks. ^^ <font face="Constantias" size="2" color="pink" >Sky <font face="Constantias" size="2" color="orange">☀Surfin' Santa ☀ 03:44, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 00:24, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED, 5 words: I. Hate. The. Blur. Tool. 17:10, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the charart; Dovewing is a pale gray cat - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 00:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink. <span style="">00:21 Fri Dec 16

The shading doesn't really make sense right now. Try looking at the apprentice tutorial for a redline of how it's supposed to go. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  00:53, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a tad. 20:41, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Loudsplashy? - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  03:01, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

I am, and I don't see any problem with the shading placement as I followed it exactly... 13:52, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Add a highlight on her shoulder and the hind paw furthest from us needs shading and she still needs to be paler. - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  21:27, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

This is the right shading placement, but the shading is too thick, needs to be thinner, image should be lightened. -- 20:47, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

She wanted me to reupload this for her. FerretclawLover 21:36, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

It may just be me, but the eyes don't seem the same color as the warrior image. But if anybody disagrees, then you won't need to fix it. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 02:57, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, but they should be blue. The color is fine. 03:01, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, they just looked a little off to me, but then again, I need new glasses. Add shading to the farthest back leg. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:35, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

On the shading charts, the farthest back leg is shaded, so could you add that? She's pretty. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 15:13, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

The image still needs to be lightened to match her other images. You use Gimp, right? If you do, brush the dodge tool over the whole image a couple of times (depends on the strength of the dodge tool for how many times you brush over the image), and it will make the image lighter. 16:50, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

No, she uses Pixlr. (Yes, I stalked her) FerretclawLover 17:51, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'd brush up on some shading placement examples, as right now your shading is a little confusing. Once you've done that, blur the shading and add some depth to the eyes. <span style="">21:43 Wed Dec 21

Add shading to the farthest back leg especially. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 13:35, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't wanna say this, but are you still working on this? 02:29, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Message from Splasheh: Yes I am, and I think the shading looks fine. (Blue here, 14:48, December 23, 2011 (UTC))

The shading's not fine, and plus, that wasnt the only thing you were told to fix. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:11, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestar (A) ~ For Approval
Hmm, I love Bluestar :) All colours are from her other images. Comments? <span style="">21:31 Fri Dec 9

Blur the ear pink more. 21:34, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading. ^-^ Looks good, Sweet! 21:44, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Fail on the ear-pink xD I will start on the darkening it shadin' in a moment.<span style="">21:48 Fri Dec 9

On my computer, it shows/looks like there is some more waste around the charart. 22:14, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded *Jumps up and down* Did I kill it? I think I did. :D <span style="">22:26 Fri Dec 9

If you didn't already, add shading to the ear on the left. (It just looks unshaded on my computer.) <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  22:30, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Our left? Or the cats left? <span style="">22:38 Fri Dec 9

The cats left. XD But it's just a suggestion. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  22:41, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thankies. Stupid edit conflicts! <span style="">23:04 Fri Dec 9

The nose should be gray. 15:55, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add a shadow to the back of her haunch. You're doing phenomenal my awesome apprentice <3  20:08, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

A shadow? <span style="">22:43 Sat Dec 10

Shading, I don't know how to explain it further XD That part would be darker because of the light source. 23:35, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'll I needed was to her the word shading ;) Re-uploaded Added a grayy nose and "shading" to the back of the haunch.. <span style="">23:47 Sat Dec 10

Does she have the same color nose like her other images? 22:44, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Her nose is pink on the other images, but I was told to make it gray, do I make it pink than? <span style="">23:20 Sun Dec 11

The nose is a lighter gray on her other images. Color pick off of that, if you'd like. 23:37, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Got the nose colour off her kit image. <span style="">00:52 Mon Dec 12

Re-uploaded Smudges ear-pink more. <span style="">00:55 Mon Dec 12

Her ear should be torn. :3 <font face="Constantias" size="2" color="pink" >Sky <font face="Constantias" size="2" color="orange">☀Surfin' Santa ☀ 06:18, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

We don't know when she got the torn ear, do we? Meaning she probably shouldn't have it on her apprentice. Darken the shading and make the shading color match the leader image better. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:02, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, Sky's right, she got it as an apprentice. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:03, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I love this images, so proud :) <span style="">23:00 Mon Dec 12

Add a silver tip to the tail. 14:59, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I got the colour off her leader image, so I'm probably not changing it. <span style="">21:27 Tue Dec 13

Actually, she shouldn't have a silver tail tip. That's from age. Could you get rid of it and darken the shading? Sorry. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:11, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploadedThat's fine, I don't mind xD <span style="">00:04 Wed Dec 14

Blur the earpink and add depth to the eye. I love the shading, Sweet! 06:06, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Doesn't everyone? ;) <span style="">23:22 Wed Dec 14

Blur the shading and the highlights. 01:25, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

There are no highlights, and no offence, but the shading is blurred enough and to the max. <span style="">11:08 Thu Dec 15

Darken the shading, on the rump especially. And have you tried Gaussian blurring it? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  00:50, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I always use gaussian blur for shading. <span style="">00:56 Sat Dec 17

Darken the shading and blur it 22:07, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I don't want to darken it, because it will turn out black. <span style="">22:13 Sun Dec 18

Re-uploaded. <span style="">23:07 Sun Dec 18

Darken the shading and blur it. Make sure you're using the pencil tool when you're drawing on the lineart for the torn ear, as right now some of the pixels are semi-transparent. <span style="">01:22 Tue Dec 20

Re-uploaded I did use the pencil, but I erased some of the ear off first. That's probably why. <span style="">18:56 Tue Dec 20

Darn it. I was hoping to get this once Bluestar's kit alt. I'm working on was approved, but, oh well. Anyways, this looks a little too gray, with not enough blue, to me. Bluestar11796 19:02, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hehe I wanted it too, so as soon as Frostfur's loner was approved I quick reserved it. I colour picked off one of her other image, so I'm not comfortable about changing it. <span style="">19:12 Tue Dec 20

Define/Add shading to the farthest back leg. It is in the apprentice tutorial shading placement. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:37, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is the artist's choice, as long as it makes sense and there is a definite light source. Plus, I'm pretty sure there are other tutorials that show the shading a different way. I don't see anything wrong with the shading, except fo the fact that the the neck shading looks too black. <span style="">4:29 AM, Wed Dec 21, 2011

Oh, add depth to the eyes. <span style="">4:31 AM, Wed Dec 21, 2011

Add shading to the back leg farthest away from us. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 15:18, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

There is depth in the eyes, plus it's my choice anyways, and the shading placement is my choice, and it's fine. <span style="">17:19 Wed Dec 21

Can you try to match the nose color with the other images? It just looks a little bit off to me. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 13:54, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

It is off her leader image. So I don't intend to change it.<span style="">21:49 Fri Dec 23

Blur the smudged earpink. <span style="">23:47, Fri, Dec, 23, 2011

I don't blur apprentice earpink, only smudge. :3 <span style="">01:29 Sat Dec 24

Owlwhisker (A) ~ For Approval
Yay! My first charart I like it! =) Acornflight   Med. Cat of LunarClan! 17:28, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and stripes. 17:29, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Also, rename this Owlwhisker.apprentice.png and smudge the earpink. 17:30, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Add transparency ,17:32,December 11,2011 (UTC)

Fixed the heading for you. Add more shading too, and make the stripes a tad bigger to match the other image. 17:35, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Ivy, i wanted to do it xD Yes Acorn, also add more stripes and made them more real, i never seen before a cat with such less stripes. Warrior version is going do be tweaked, i think :-) ,17:37,December 11,2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thank you Ivy. Geez I've drawn a blank how do you add transparency? Changes aren't showing. Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan! 17:59, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

If you're using GIMP, select the white areas, then go to edit---> clear. If it doesn't become transparent then go to Layers--->Transparency--->add alpha channel 18:05, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken stripes and add more lighter of them and made M stripe on the head. ,18:12,December 11,2011 (UTC)

Can someone blur the shading for me? GIMP isn't working at the moment. Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan! 20:12, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Leafstorm can you make the transparency for me? Its not working for me. =/ Acornflight   Med. Cat of LunarClan! 21:48, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I added light highlights, does it look okay? Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan! 23:46, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

i make it transparent when you get CBA it, darken the shadings more ,16:12,December 12,2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we can't CBA if it's not transparent. But don't worry, I've done it for you :) Blur the shading/highlights. 00:27, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry guys I've been really busy I got my own computer today so I'll get right on it. :) Acornflight   Med. Cat of LunarClan! 02:09, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay now how does it look? =) Acornflight   Med. Cat of LunarClan! 22:12, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Can you define the shading more? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  03:21, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I defined the shading. Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan! 01:42, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:32, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the shading. Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan! 00:20, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/define the stripes and brighten the ear-pink. - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  03:06, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

I got the earpink from his warrior charart, and Reuploaded. Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan! 20:37, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or are some of the lines blurred? The lines inside the body don't have a crisp apperance imho 01:21, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I can barely even see the stripes inside it, and even if i could I think they're too close together. 03:16, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes and blur them. 23:36, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Try to match the stripes with the warrior image because it appears as if there are too many compared to the warrior image and if you use highlights, define them, and pardon me if I am wrong, but the earpinks do not seem to match up quite correctly, a cat  ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 02:48, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone fix the lineart for me please? I have to use pixlr because my GIMP won't load on my computer, and I don't know how to on pixlr. I will define, blur, and take off stripes though. Okay? Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan! 23:42, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stomach shading because you can not see the stripes at all where the shading is. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 01:35, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay Reuploaded Acornflight   Med. Cat of LunarClan! 16:41, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the stomach/haunch area. 19:40, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the shading, and make it so it doesn't interfere with the stripes. If you use layers, set the opacity down more, if you don't, I suggest you do, because the burn tool doesn't work very good on tabby cats. Redo the stripes in a darker shade than the normal stripes, so you still get the shading effect to it. <span style="">00:19, Sun, Dec, 25, 2011

Sneezepaw (A) ~ For Approval
Got all colors from original image. CommentS? 23:15, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading. <span style="">23:20 Mon Dec 12

Re-Uploaded. 23:23, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bunch and darken it. <span style="">01:09 Wed Dec 14

Re-Uploaded. 01:18, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the tail highlights. <span style="">23:58 Wed Dec 14

I can't; then it won't show. It looks fine as it is. 22:51, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Can you darken the tail shading and blur the haunch shading? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  00:41, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 00:47, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the hind leg. 20:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Its blurred as much as possible. 01:28, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading and erase the waste. <span style="">12:21 Sun Dec 18

Re-Uploaded. 22:53, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading more and brush up on your placement, as right now I can't really see a definitive light source. <span style="">01:33 Tue Dec 20

There is a definitive light source. Its coming from the top/front right side. I copied the shading from Frogleap's apprentice image, and no one found anything wrong with the shading there. I'll darken the shading more, but thats as much as I'll do. 22:54, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I've defined the shading. Everything's blurred to the limit, and the shading seriously matches Frogleap's perfectly, and that one was approved, so I'm going to CBA this. 23:09, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink does not seem to match up with his kit image (kit not alt. kit) a cat  ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 02:51, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Be sure to change the title next time. ;) 02:52, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can you define the tummy shading? I feel dumb saying tummy... a cat  ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:39, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the white legs as well. 03:59, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 03:07, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the hind leg is blotchy. Blur it. 17:44, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. CBA? 01:06, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

You cant just CBA your own image like that. The haunch highlight needs to be bigger and brighter and the shading under the chin needs to be blurred badly. 02:16, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (A) ~ For Approval
Comments? 12:02, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Cute! He should have more stripes. 12:07, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. Icestorm has dibs on this image, did you get permission to do this image? 16:00, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Even if you were allowed to, hmm. The eye needs more contrast in shades, and needs to be a tiny tad less neon Define the shading just a bit. 17:32, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Icestorm isn't active right now, so I don't know if she would be able to lay claim to any of her images. Try and thin out the middle of the stripes on the tail by a pixel or two. Also, the eyes look like they're blue with a tint of green. Did you color pick right from the warrior/deputy? 19:16, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't even know Icestorm had dibs on the image... I actually just chose the color, since his eyes are an ice blue shade. 20:48, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:02, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the eyes less neon and add depth to them. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  11:10, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  12:00, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Move the stripes on his haunch closes to his head up further and make the top one longer. - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  02:34, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 12:28, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Make the eyes less neon. 23:51, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Add depth to the eyes. 00:53, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Correct me if I am wrong,but could you defie the shading a tad bit. Otherwise, excellent job! a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 02:54, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  12:05, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

The tail looks really dark. Also could you define the shading on the whitish part of the tummy? a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 15:21, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  11:44, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear-pink a bit and lighten the shading a bit. <span style="">00:54 Fri Dec 23 00:54, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

His image's stripes are being redone to look like Tigerstar's. Might as well do that here instead of the tweak page. ;) 03:43, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Be right back going to puke because of this >_>  19:20, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Awsome! Fix the stripes to look more like his warrior image. Moonstorm88 22:23, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

His warrior image needs to be redone Moon. Can you fix the angle of the stripes? I don't think it's natural for them to be diagonal like that. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:37, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I made them look like Tigerstar's stripes, so that's why they look that way. 00:08, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Loudbelly (A) - For Approval
Posting this for Brightstripes bause she can't edit the page yet. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 13:25, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the neck shading a tad. 18:11, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink to give it a bit more of a realistic look. 18:50, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the "highlight" on the haunch and shoulder a bit bigger. 21:04, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, it;s making her look black almost. <span style="">17:26 Sat Dec 17

Are you still working on this? And Sweet, Loudbelly is a boy =p  16:44, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the earpink a bit. 18:21, December 20, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

It has been 8 days since this has been worked on. Declined. Somebody may take this over if they don't have two apprentice projects  18:57, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Could I take over? Birdpaw got declined, so i dont know :l. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 19:26, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

No need to ask, just reserve it before someone else  19:28, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm taking over. It'll be reuploaded today or tomorrow. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 19:35, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed the earpink and shading. Highlights were hard, though, because I don't use them. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 19:58, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Creekfeather (A) ~ For Approval
Ugh...sloppy. I dun like this one. Please please please tell me it needs improvements! I'm fine if you decline this one; it's horrible. 14:32, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a lot. 15:59, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

We don't decline chararts based on how they look or our personal opinions on them. You're just being hard on yourself. Make the nose a tad bit darker and blur the haunch shading some 18:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well, as they say, our worst critic is ourselves. Blur the stripes just a tad. 18:26, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes and blur the edges of the stripes a lot, actually. Notice how they're not as visible on the Warrior image as they are on here? If you need help, don't be afraid to ask. 19:07, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. And redden it a bit too. 19:21, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hmm...still sloppy, but I like it better! =D 23:02, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thin out the stripes, especially on main part of the body. I used the "Circle 03" brush on GIMP to make the stripes, if that helps you. 03:04, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Had to redo the entire thing to get the stripes thinner, and I appreciate the help, only I use Pixlr. 07:31, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

I use pixlr too, so I understand your pain. However, I feel like the stripes on the tail are a bit unnatural, and that they could be blurred a bit more. I find it easier just to continue blurring until it looks good. Really good though! 08:01, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Um. I had dibs on this image. I'm not going to take it from you (I'm being nice) but be more careful next time you reserve an image. <span style="">20:59 Sat Dec 17

Wildheart, wasn't that rule removed? 21:43, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure, as there was a lot of discussion and debate on it (discussion and debate that seems to have disappeared), but I think it was put into place in the end. <span style="">21:45 Sat Dec 17

Ah ha! Found it. <span style="">21:49 Sat Dec 17

I thought it was decided we could claim like 2-3 images if we want to? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:07, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Stop debating under this poor persons image and gp read the discussion page. 23:25, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Oops. Hehe, missed that...anyways, Quailflight, reuploaded. 23:40, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Needs a gray nose  01:52, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Ugh, my cat walked on my computer just before I uploaded, so I had to redo the upload. *Mutter mutter* 04:54, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to be larger and more smudged together, as well as more curved on the shoulder and haunch. Darken the shading a lot, and add some depth to the eyes. <span style="">05:05 Sun Dec 18

Derp I don't mean add depth to the eyes, I mean reverse the depth in the eyes, as the bone above their eyes juts out and casts shadow on the top of the eye, not the bottom. <span style="">05:07 Sun Dec 18

Reuploaded. Like that? 07:09, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I'm a Derp, reuploaded again. :P 08:54, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Better. The contrast in the eyes could be a bit more intense, and the stripes still need to be smudged more. The pelt should be smudged into the earpink as well, and the shading still needs to be darker. <span style="">09:52 Sun Dec 18

Reuploaded. That's as much as I can smudge the stripes without messing up the lineart or messing up the whole pelt. -.- 10:56, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry to be such a stickler, but if you look at this image compared to the warrior image, you can see that the warrior image is much more smudged. My advice: make sure your lineart is on a different layer so you don't smudge it, and then lock the background. Then take your brush (circle fuzzy 03 or maybe 05) and smudge the stripes all in the same direction. Go crazy with smudging until the smudgies look more like the warrior image. <span style="">10:59 Sun Dec 18

Ugh...this is gonna take a while before I can reupload. I use Pixlr, I can't get the lineart on another layer. It'll just hide all the color. :( 12:18, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

A while being...? A couple days? A week? Do you want to withdraw it for now, but keep the reservation so you can work on it and post it when you think it's perfect? It would free up room for other images so we can get all these apprentices done quickly. <span style="">12:33 Sun Dec 18

I like the sound of that. I'll re-post this later on, but I'm withdrawing for now. Honestly, this might take up to...a week maximum, I'm guessing. Okay, the image is withdrawn. I'm keeping my reservation, I'm just withdrawing for right now. Please no one take up the image (wow I sound like a hypocrite, don't I?). 12:20, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Scratch the above, actually. Wild, you can take up the image. I've decided not to do it, as I've already got a better one in mind. This time I chose very carefully. 12:26, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

When you withdraw, please make sure to change the heading to reflect this  19:53, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take over. :3 -- 00:03, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I like this one! :D -- 00:15, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

This is great, but I'm about to spoil your fun :( The stripes need to curve with the body much more and they're going the wrong way  00:23, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Define face shading a tad, and the back leg shading needs to be blurred because the lack of shading/highlights are a tad bit too large in that area. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 01:39, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Leafpool (MCA) - For Approval
Please, someone remind me never to copy a complicated tabby again DX. I do not like this at all. The stripes all fail. 19:14, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the white. 20:10, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this needs to be uploaded over the old file. 20:33, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

It does. Don't put caps on mca. 21:04, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur where the white blends into the brown. Also, there is a lack of shading on the neck and chest. 21:07, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Can you define the earpink? 21:14, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the changes are showing, but still, Reuploaded. I really hate this image. 10:53, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

The changes weren't showing 'cause you forgot to change the image name XD I fixed it for you. Try to make the stripes lighter and match the warrior image more closely <span style="">12:37 Sun Dec 18

Blur the stripes. 23:11, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define face shading. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 01:41, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 04:22, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I've been stressed out and busy over the last few days. Reuploaded now though. 16:51, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  01:05, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thistlepaw (P3) (A) - Withdrawn
Not sure uploading this will work. If it doesn't, let me try again. Anyway, that was quick. Comments? 19:59, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Okay it worked. :3 20:00, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  20:04, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 20:09, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, so sorry Cloudskye! I tried to edit, it restored changes and I clicked publish before I reallized it deleted your edit. Well, I changed the name, anyway. 20:10, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

It happens. I changed the file name at the top of the page for you. Now, darken the shading just a tad. 20:12, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Re-uploaded. Fixed shading. 20:24, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

In the fold in his neck, there appears to be some lighter pixils than the surrounding pelt. Make sure they match ^^ 22:43, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:14, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the heading. <span style="">01:28 Sat Dec 17

In what way...? 03:36, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

She fixed the heading for you. The link probably wasn't correct or something. Enlarge the "highlight" on the face and blur all the shading. <span style="">21:05 Sat Dec 17

No, it didn't say: (A). There's gray lineart on both of the ears. <span style="">00:35 Sun Dec 18

Reuploaded 01:50, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

There's still smudged lineart. ;) <span style="">15:25 Sun Dec 18

If you need help, I could get it. <span style="">18:06 Sun Dec 18

No that's fine, I just din't have wifi for a little while. Um... I'll try again. Wait...how should I fix it? Where exactly? I'm a little confused how to fix it, I'm sorry. :( 02:30, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay reuploaded, did my best, did I fix it? *is hopeful* :3 02:38, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

This ---> ear. If you can't get it I will. <span style="">22:34 Mon Dec 19

I'm so sorry, I don't know how to fix it. Could you? If you help, will this not count in the future as one of the three chararts that I did myself approved to become a warrior? 00:37, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Okay so I looked at the Reservation chart to get Shadepelt, and it said that I still had Hollyleaf apprentice (It's been approved) and that Thistlepaw was a tweak. Um, I'm just going to change that, unless people say otherwise. If not, it was a mistake. 00:42, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think it wouldn't count to becoming a warrior. But I'll fix it. <span style="">18:54 Tue Dec 20

Re-uploaded <span style="">19:49 Tue Dec 20

I can not help but notice that the whole tail is shaded (it appears) so can you lighten that please? And if you did not shade it, can you lighten that part of the tail? a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:44, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

It did, but I defined it. Re-uploaded. <span style="">15:58 PM, Wed Dec 21, 2011

Fix the blurred lineart in the ear and smudge the pelt into the earpink more, and then I'll CBA this pretty image :3 <span style="">21:54 Wed Dec 21

Feather...has been blocked. :( Just saying that someone will need to take over this image, 'cause Featherwillow isn't here anymore... 00:57, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

I will. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  00:58, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

I will if that's okay, now Tigerheart is approved. <span style="">00:24, Sun, Dec, 25, 2011

Brambleclaw (A) ~ For Approval
Sorry it's so ugly. Just noticed that i need to darken the base color, apologies. Feedback? ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 16:52, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Color in the nose, blur the shading and darken it, and the earpink looks a little too neon. Smudge the pelt into the earpink 16:59, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

add transparency to it - 17:04, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Also smudge/blur the stripes more. 19:34, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Get all the colours off his kit or warrior image. <span style="">19:47 Sat Dec 17

And blur the highlights. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 03:53, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't do highlights. And I did take off the colors, or else it'll upload odd. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 23:29, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

You obviously didn't take the colours off his images. This needs to be a whole lot darker, and are you going to do anything else said? 23:38, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

You need to take the colors off of a neutral spot on the picture, not on the highlighted parts. Breeze whisker  00:35, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Color the nose and add some depth in the shading; it's really flat. - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  02:38, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 16:42, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

If you added highlights to the haunch, I can see that they are very circular and not blurred, so they need to be blurred. Also please define the shading... a cat  ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:46, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

If they aren't working on this, may I take over? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 03:49, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wait til it's been a week, Maple, and you don't need to ask when that happens  04:25, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yeah, i fixed the colors. I keep messing up relpoading though. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 19:45, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Fill his nose in, blur the highlights/lighter parts and the shading, and make the background transparent and mathc the stripe styleabit moare(Add more stripes) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 20:43, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

You'll have to change this up to look like the deputy, which has been redone. Sorry. >.> 03:41, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks kinda sloppy, mayeb blur or smudge them a bit.--<font color="Red">When darkness turns to light...<font color="black" style="background;none">I come a callin' 17:01, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Color the nose and lighten the ear-pink. 01:44, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

His images are being redone to look more like Tigerstars. So you might have to redo the stripes. 16:55, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Misty, dont repeat what was already said. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:57, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Graypool (A) ~ CBA
Here she is, comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  23:34, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little more. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  23:36, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 23:48, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  23:55, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Great! Smudge the pelt into the earpink. 00:13, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  00:24, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge it a bit more. <span style="">00:38 Sun Dec 18

Re-uploaded. Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  00:53, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Now blur it a little bit? And maybe lighten the shoulder and thigh. Breeze whisker  02:00, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  15:43, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Please smudge both sides of the earpink into the ear  01:55, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on th eback leg closest to us. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  23:49, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad on the farthest back leg from us. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 01:49, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  18:23, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

There's still a lighter part on the hind leg closest to us. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  22:39, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Scratch that, it's for the light source. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  22:45, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  21:02, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  21:16, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The base pelt color need to be lightened to match her elder. Once you've done that I'll CBA this  22:33, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  22:43, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? 22:45, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Whitewing (A) ~ For Approval
Here she is, my first charart as a warrior, hope you like her. 13:50, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. <span style="">15:32 Sun Dec 18

Reuploaded 22:48, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken it more. 23:42, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:02, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

This probably sounds contradicting, but lighten the base fur colour if you can. She looks grey right now. 00:05, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up her rump a bit. Breeze whisker  00:31, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:44, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Add some depth to the eyes and enlarge the "highlights" on her haunch and shoulder. <span style="">02:53 Tue Dec 20

Okay I will finish this but I can't for the next few days, I don't want to take up space so can I withdraw this and put it up again later? -- 17:36, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead. Keep in mind that everybody will most likely be busy because of the holidays. If you want, just go sign up on the vacation list. But for now, I'll mark this as Withdrawn. 03:53, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

No, Sandstorm. They haven't withdrawn yet, so it's wrong to mark it as such. 21:14, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

No its fine I'm just asking if it is okay for me to withdraw this and put it up for approval later, I've already signed the vacation list but I'll try to work on this if you want. 01:32, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's fine to keep it up unless you're planning to be gone more than 7 days. I see no problem with hit. And Sandstorm, if the user who's doing the charart doesn't mark it as Withdrawn, it's the leads' job. You shouldn't change it. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  10:34, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Harespring (A) ~ For Approval
Okay, I copied his warrior image best I can.. I only blurred the patches a bit so it would really match the other images. 13:55, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 21:46, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink so its not so purplish. 00:27, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas &amp; Hannukah to all!  00:35, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

It may just be me, but can you darken and/or define the shading esp. on the tummy. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:48, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Add depth to the eyes. <span style="">15:30 PM, Wed Dec 21, 2011

Reuploaded Did all of the above. (too lazy to list them all) ;P Except for Misty's.. I took the earpink off of the warrior image. 21:32, December 21, 2011 (UTC) Smudge the patches more and blur and darken the shading a bit. 03:54, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I darkened the shading, and I only blurred the patches a bit since I want it to match the warrior image. 16:54, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the brown patches exept for the one on the tail. <span style="">23:56, Fri, Dec, 23, 2011

Reuploaded Blurred them just a tad. 03:21, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Over 12 hours, this looks wonderful ^^ CBA? 19:35, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt but I can barely see the shading  19:48, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Cherrytail (A) ~ For Approval
I just realized I made her long haired.. Idiot me. I will fix that this second. xD 15:43, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Nicely done! Define the shading. 21:54, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

The ginger looks kinda...green. Colo pick off her warrior. Her warrior also looks like it has a texture. 01:54, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Well, I had to re do it, and I tried to copy the image best I could.. How does this look? 03:40, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

smudge the patches more to make it look furry like the warrior image - 21:04, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Alright, hows this? I only did it to a few patches, or else some would look to faded and weird.. 22:32, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and smudge the patches more, and define the shading. Also smudge where the black goes into the white parts. And...smudge the pelt into the earpink more. :) 02:38, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading in general. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 15:26, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Is the nose colored in? :3 18:30, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Long list there, Feather. ;) And don't repeat what has already been said, Cheshire ^-^ (just a future reference). And yes, the nose is colored in, I took the same color that I have for the earpink, but I could lighten it if you want, Ivy. 21:44, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the patches more so they look more like the warrior image. <span style="">22:05 Wed Dec 21

Reuploaded So sorry for the wait! It was such a busy week.. Here she is! :)  16:47, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

I love this image, it's beautiful.I'm also kinda new so I'm not used to these chararts yet, but I really see nothing wrong with it.--<font color="Red">When darkness turns to light...<font color="black" style="background;none">I come a callin' 16:58, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Don't comment just to compliment the images Itendstonight (what can we call you). Could you darken/define the shading Misty? This is lovely. ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  10:32, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Paleclaw. :3 Defined the shading. 14:39, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and add some depth to the eyes and I'll CBA. :) ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  22:45, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the earpink and added depth to the eye. Thank you! ^-^  00:21, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Graystripe (A) - For Approval
Here's Graystripe (Graypaw at the time)! I like this. I'm sorry I didn't get around to posting it earlier... Purplemoon  <font color="FF6699">Four candles 6 days!  14:38, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and I got the earpink, stripe, eye, and pelt colors from his warrior charart. Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Four candles 6 days!  16:21, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, fix the nosse. Define the earpink on the ear closest to us. Blur the shading. 16:41, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded As I told you before, I got the earpink from Graystripe's warrior charart. I have no idea what happened to the nose. I blurred the shading as much as I could. Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Four candles 6 days!  17:50, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I realized I didn't crop it enough... Purplemoon  <font color="FF6699">Four candles 6 days!  17:54, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

The color of his nose needs to be darker than his pelt 19:47, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Heh heh, I forgot.. Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Four candles 6 days!  00:24, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Dang I wanted him! Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink a little more. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas &amp; Hannukah to all!  02:03, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Aww, Graypaw is uber cute!! <3 blur the shading more, and make the "highlights" bigger. 02:25, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think the "highlights" are fine as they are (except the shoulder one, which should be bigger) but the shading does need to be blurred, as well as darkened. <span style="">03:04 Tue Dec 20

Blur the stripe where it goes across the back a tad it more. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:51, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded The shading and stripe are blurred as much as I can. Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Four candles 4 days!!  22:17, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Smudgethe pelt into the earpink a little more. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  23:52, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Purplemoon  <font color="FF6699">Four candles 4 days!!  15:13, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  21:34, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Purplemoon  <font color="FF6699">Only 3 days 'till Christmas!  21:39, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back leg shading a bit more and ill CBA it. 02:20, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) Purplemoon  <font color="FF6699">Meap! Just 2 days!  19:32, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Patchpelt (A) ~ For Approval
Oh, he's so purty <3 16:13, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful~ <3 Smudge the pelt into the earpink. 16:14, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED, changes should probably show once I publish this edit... 16:21, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Those black patches should be smaller; he has a lot more white on his warrior. 19:44, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

And define them a bit, too. Breeze whisker  22:09, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the white and smudge the earpink into the ear. Also darken the shading. <span style="">01:20 Tue Dec 20

Sorry to interrupt but I think the white looks fine. FerretclawLover 17:54, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blue, are you still doing this? <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  23:21, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I am. And I followed the elder exactly, so they should be fine. 14:51, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well I'm sorry, but they're not. They don't match the elder, they're smaller on the elder. And the white still needs to be lighter. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  10:30, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. A) ~ For Approval
Finally. A space. Comments, concerns? 20:20, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Theres a patch missing on his toe on the far right leg (our right). 20:24, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Make his eyes less brown and more yellow. 01:08, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink into the ear more and reverse the shading in the eyes so the darkest part is at the top. <span style="">01:18 Tue Dec 20

Reuploaded. 02:25, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

The white spots don't show up in GIMP.. that's odd. I think the changes are in the file history :P 02:26, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. There is definitely a white spot, it's just an ill-filled pixel. Breeze whisker  03:30, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Scratch that, shading looks fine opacity-wise. Sorry. Breeze whisker  03:31, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 03:38, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

It may just be me, but smudge the pelt into the earpink a tiny bit more and define the tail shading a little bit too. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 13:48, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, there's a white pixel on his hind paw on --> It's a little white pixel on the end of the toe, but that's all. X3 14:16, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:38, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Spiderleg (A) ~ For Approval
Comments? 20:36, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up his belly a tad 20:38, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely, blur the shading a tad. PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  20:43, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the base coat a tad and darken the shading slightly. Nice job! <span style="">01:15 Tue Dec 20

Reuploaded. This is so ugly. 16:50, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

No critisizing your own work. :D Great work! Just blur the shading more. 00:25, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. You're right, I guess I'll just say this isn't my best. :3 14:57, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

There's waste all around the image. 03:03, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oblivion's right, it looks like he has a dark gray aura...X) 13:20, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Pinenose (A) - CBA
Eh... well comments? 15:29, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Pinenose is a girl...and shorthaired. o3o 15:34, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. *headdesk* 15:53, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Her ear farest from us, is pale gray, almost dark gray, make it black. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:19, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it was....forget that. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:09, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly shading, since the paws have dark shading, and the shading would make more sense if you did darken it. 18:31, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Green eyes, Atelda o3o 22:25, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Woops. 22:13, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste. Ot'z all around the image. 23:01, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:47, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

I think this looks great, CBA? 19:00, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Bouncefire (A) - For Approval
Well, I tried... Comments? - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  15:31, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

There is some waste near his chin/chest and his hind leg closest to us. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:18, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  20:08, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Can you make the whole image a tad brighter? Other than that, I can't find anything wrong with this. 02:41, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can you darken the shading? It just does not seem right, but I have bad eyes so it may just be me. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:53, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think the haunch highlight/light part needs to be a tiny bit lighter. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="purple" >Sky-Jedi <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="orange"> You will talk to me. 07:00, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the "highlights" bigger. I don't think the shading needs to be darkened at all. <span style="">09:57 Wed Dec 21

Re-uploaded. 17:29, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

There is some waste on the back, near the tail. :3 21:24, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:11, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reverse the depth on the eyes. Isn't that what it's called? Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Four candles 4 days!!  15:04, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

I have always used the same method of depth in the eyes of the apprentice chararts up til' now. I'm not changing it. <span style="">15:44 Thu Dec 22 15:44, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and darken it. 00:53, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <span style="">01:07 Fri Dec 23 01:07, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

There's a litttllleee tiiiiny bit of waste above his shoulder :3 03:03, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <span style="">03:29 Fri Dec 23 03:29, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Saturate him a little, he looks too grey. 12:05, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <span style="">15:10 Fri Dec 23 15:10, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The color seems a bit off. Too bright I believe. 19:22, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Took all the colors directly from his warrior charart. <span style="">22:21 Fri Dec 23 22:21, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten/make the highlights bigger. 02:22, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 02:32, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Tallstar (A) ~ For Approval


UGH this is such a fail DX Took all colors from his Warrior image, and highlights are coming from the back. *hangs head in shame* Fail fail fail fail fail! I tried to smudge...and got a major fail....Dont look at my shame DX! Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:15, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the black into the white a lot and add shading, because I can't see any. 16:29, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

'Kay. *bags head* I hate this image DX Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 16:32, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:35, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

The black on his head needs to be touching the corner of his eyes like on his leader image. And lengthen the tail. 18:19, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

One thing, I can't make his tail longer, for stuff like that, I use Pixirl, and his tail touches the end of the box. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:39, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I can do it for you if you email me the file with layers. Neneshell@gmail.com. 18:47, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't use files on this one, for fear i'd lose them like i did with Rubblepaw.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:50, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

So how are you editing it? If you don't have the file, how can you make changes, besides redoing it each time you exit? 19:46, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, like no, i have the one file that's his image, but i didn't do layers like a layer for his color and earpink and shaidng and stuff, and just did that on the one thing. Like I opened up the blank, and took the black, drew on his patches, filled in the patches, and then darkened the white a bit, added shading and highlights, the blurred everything, and added his eyes color. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 20:18, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

And i did this one on Pixirl....not Gimp, 'cause Gimp is being spazzy for me atm. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 20:21, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

You have to save the image as an .xcf, I believe - if it's the same on Pixlr - for the layers to save. Doing everything on one layer is not a good idea. For example, what if someone asked you to lighten the patch, which I was going to? You can't just use the dodge tool, or it'd lighten the lineart as well. I can't tell you how to make your chararts, but I can advise you to use layers. 22:23, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Also, no matter what the tail does need to be lengthened to match his leader blank. 23:50, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/add shading. I really can not see it. a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:54, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Withdrawing...for reasons.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 04:00, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take over, if thats okay. <span style="">06:03, Wed, Dec, 21, 2011

Go ahead, DJ. Maple: next time you withdraw an image, remember to change the title. <span style="">10:01 Wed Dec 21

I did, I put 'withdrawn.' I'm sure i did.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:28, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

She did, DJ changed it I'm assuming. DJ, don't change the heading; only leads should do that. 21:23, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. <span style="">03:17, Thu, Dec, 22, 2011

Lighten up the black a bit. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  03:20, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. -- 04:06, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  I redid the whole image, and fixed all of the above. <span style="">23:18, Thu, Dec, 22, 2011
 * Also fail on the tail stretch. <span style="">23:23, Thu, Dec, 22, 2011

There's waste around the charart. 00:24, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  <span style="">03:21, Fri, Dec, 23, 2011

Extend the image border up so his tail isn't cut off. 03:36, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but how do I do that? I'm kind of new around GIMP... I tried rotating the image but the lineart just got blurred. <span style="">23:20, Fri, Dec, 23, 2011

Go to 'Image' then to 'Canvas Size' at the top, then make it taller. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  10:27, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) ~ For Approval
My least favorite charart :\ FerretclawLover 16:24, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Why, shes cute! Smudge her ear-pink into her ear. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:28, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

So pretty! Define the tail shading a tad. 18:16, December 20, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

REUPLOADED, the reason is that she just isn't up to what I call the Icewish Standard. She's average :\ FerretclawLover 18:25, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink a little more on either side of where you've already smudged it 20:19, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED, is this what you mean? I got a little confused so I just did what I think you're saying...FerretclawLover 20:23, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

The face shading needs to be more defined. The shading chart in the tutorials shows shading on the face, and it is hard to see if it was added. Otherwise great job! a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:21, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not actually sure whether I put face shading or not...FerretclawLover 17:57, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Cheshire, the shading placement is artists choice, as long as it makes sense, than it's fine. ;) <span style="">23:44 Wed Dec 21

Blur the earpink. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  23:46, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I don't like disagreeing but I think the earpink looks fine. :)  14:21, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

No, I think the earpink should be fixed, so it looks like it going into the ear, not into the pelt. (if that makes any sense at all) And blur the shading on her belly tons, looks darken than the rest of it. 17:02, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED  17:40, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Furzepelt (A) ~For Approval
I feel I need to do more WindClan cats. Comments? 16:46, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the white patches. 20:08, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

The white points on her white patch look a little too pointy. Maybe blur them a lot? FerretclawLover 20:18, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Um...I think some of the white is smudged in the wrong direction. Smudge the white above her haunch more up and down her back (aka smudge it left to right in our perspective) This is adorable though =3 23:26, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Guys, Stone said that above. You don't need to repeat the same critiques. Darken the shading a tad, Shelly. She's pretty. ^^ Breeze  whisker  00:33, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the bit of white on the belly. FerretclawLover 18:00, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Actually guys, I'm withdrawing this to pursue another charart. Someone else take over. 20:21, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, nevermind. I'll keep her. 20:44, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. She's about as spiky looking as her warrior image, I think. :\ 02:54, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

There's a bit of waste by the underside of the tail and brighten the ear-pink a tad. <span style="">03:57 Fri Dec 23 03:57, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 20:50, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Leopardstar (A) ~ For Approval
She is beautiful, comments? 02:42, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nice

Tigerheart273 02:54, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur what? You need to be more specific, and whatever it is, I think it is fine, and if I did blur the whole thing it would be messy. 02:56, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

This is GORGOEUS! I'm mega jelly. Define the shading. 03:02, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, I defined the shading slightly, too much would make it look odd, and thanks. 03:07, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is great, and this is such a beautiful cat, but I can't help but notice that some of the back leg farthest from us is not fully shaded, and if the light source is coming in which part of the back leg is in shadow, then all of it should be shaded, and unless she has paws in a darker color (I looked at her description and it was not mentioned) then the whole farthest back leg should be shaded. I do admire this though... Good job! a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 03:14, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart, I can't blur the whole tail. It'l mess up the tail, what the shading? The spots? I am going to ask you to read the guidelines of this project before commenting on an image. 03:33, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely! Define the nosepink a tad. ;) 04:35, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the paws a bit. The stripes on her head look like she's angry, haha. 18:40, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I lightened the paws a little because they are supposed to be golden-brown, I defined the nose-pink, but the I took the nose color from the leader image, and I am not going to change it again. I also added shading to the furthest back paw, and thanks!

Yellowfang (A) - For Approval
I took over for Maplepool: we're doing an art swap 'cause I fell in love with this charart XD I'll archive her previous section for space in a minute. Comments? <span style="">21:19 Wed Dec 21

I love her face. XD Can you give the neck shading some more depth, because it looks a little flat. Otherwise, amazing~ 22:05, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks :3 and I know! Her face looks ridiculous. I tried to copy images of Persian cats for the flattened face aspect, but this just looks... hilarious. Which is why I love it XD <span style="">22:20 Wed Dec 21

Epic face. XD I honestly see nothing wrong with this, but should she have scars? Or do you think she got those as a warrior/MC? (edit conflicts -.-) ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:21, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think she got them as a warrior/MC. I'm working on her mca image right now (and hoping feverishly nobody will steal it from me before I can reserve it) and I put scars on that one, though. (I know what you mean. I hate edit conflicts ._.) <span style="">22:24 Wed Dec 21

Move her nose <-- that way and down a smidge to conform to the angle the head is at. Also change her expression to match the other apprentices if you can. Looks... cool. XD 00:51, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

I love her face. XD Blur the shading on her back. Breeze whisker  03:27, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

So glad you took over, I'd be laughing so hard, i wouldn't be able to work on this! Define her highlights if you used them. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 04:28, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

You could, for the muzzle, add that crease, ya know? Like a sideways parentheses ). If it looks weird you don't have to upload it. Breeze  whisker  17:30, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Seedkit (K) ~ For Approval
Comments? 21:33, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Could you maybe redden the earpink? So cute~! *steals* 21:36, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I adore this ^^ brighten the ginger patches a bit, lighten the white, and then darken the shading. <span style="">22:22 Wed Dec 21

This is just my opinion, but define the patches a bit more, they look a bit smudged. 00:00, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

I wanted to do her! I forgive you, but only 'cause she looks so cute! *steals from Twi* Blur her ear-pink. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 04:26, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

OMG! I wuffs! *steals from Maple* Just brighten it up a tad. After that, I'll lock it away in a cage for me to admire for eternity. ;) 04:41, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks, guys! I tried everything you all said. 15:05, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but the white is still too dark. Also define shading a tad and brighten the right ear. I may be wrong but the nose pink looks too... bright. Otherwise, she is so cute! a cat ♥  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 18:09, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

No,your right, and makethe earpink bigger on > this side or make the ear pink smaller on < that side. *Steals back fro Dazzlewing* Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 20:39, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink on the right looks darker than the other, can ya fix it? ^^ <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="purple" >Sky-Jedi <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="orange"> You will talk to me. 22:17, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm. I think that's because of the shading. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  22:19, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried using the sponge tool (I don't know if there's one on gimp...). It helps redden earpink and almost anything that contains a hot color: red, orange, purple and yellow. 23:32, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Dazzle, there is no sponge tool on GIMP. To get the sponge tool, you'll have to use Pixlr. <span style="">00:04, Sat, Dec, 24, 2011

Ackk...*facepalm*. Well, the picture is a tad dim and could use brightening, but I don't know what Ivy uses...I don't know how else to brighten it other than higlight and saturation. X( 14:01, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sagefur (A) ~ For approval
Okay, lets see, female, long hair, blue eyes, I think I've got it this time xD Yeah, my mentality level has been off lately. Comments? 21:53, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

For gray cats, I think you're supposed to make the nose a darker gray. Lovely image! 22:03, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''You are. xD Thanks btw. 22:08, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad and add some shading to the back of the tail and enlarge the "highlight" so it extends all the way along the tail. Pretty :3 <span style="">22:27 Wed Dec 21

Pretty, except I thought Sagefur is a male...? 22:27, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

This is awesome! It would be even better if this was male and had green eyes like the warrior image. Bluestar11796 22:55, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made him male but he has blue eyes... 23:59, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, he never had a confirmed eye color (as far as I know) but the blue looks awesome on him ;3 00:46, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

It should still match though. And he does have green eyes; I made his warrior. It's extremely ugly, but it's mine x3 02:41, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' x3 21:41, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ice (Alt Lo) - For Approval
Mmaky, Ice was seen with this pelt type as a loner as well. You guys are probably sick of apprentices already :P Comments for improvement? 04:15, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ivy, thank god you saved what little sainty I have left! Move his collar down a bit, looks like its trying to kill him. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 04:23, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail, I can't see it all that much. Oh, I owe you for saving my brain; it was going crazy at the thought of apprentices overrunning the approval page X3 04:38, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe blur the edges of the patches a little more? All of these apprentices are driving me crazy! Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Only 3 days 'till Christmas!  13:47, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Rainy (I think) also suggested to me to smudge the patches with a slightly larger brush so it'd match 17:07, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

There seems to be a ring around the shoulder patch. Maybe blur/smooth it out a bit? :3 18:03, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded A-hah! I figured out why that ring was there. I'm not so disappointed with this anymore <3 18:41, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

This is pretty good Ivy. Can you blur the ear-pink just a tad more? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  22:25, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sankyew  22:28, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Whitetail (A) ~ For Approval
21:03, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink. 21:07, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Its very faint but you can see it. 21:12, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink redder. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas &amp; Hannukah to all!  21:34, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  23:40, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

The shading in the eyes should be in the top part of the eye, and the tints in the bottom. 03:53, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just my computer or does the earpink look super dark? Blur the shading on the tail a bit.<font color="Red">When darkness turns to light...<font color="black" style="background;none">I come a callin' 16:49, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Probably your computer. 18:43, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (Alt. A) - For Approval
It was fun making the leg. Comments? 00:52, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ha, it's funny that you're leggy and you made something with an odd leggy :D Anyway blur the ear pink and maybe darken the shading a touch and blur it. 02:32, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is fine. Smudge the pelt into the earpink a bit more too. Very pretty Leggy! 03:51, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

But I thought whne she was a warrior apprentice she didn't have the twisted leg yet, because they gave up her training when she got the injury.<font color="Red">When darkness turns to light...<font color="black" style="background;none">I come a callin' 16:46, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

It happened when she was an apprentice so she was still technically an apprentice and therefore it warrants an alt. 16:56, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 14:51, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Shrewfoot (A) - For Approval
Eh. Comments? 15:20, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks. o3o 15:43, December 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * thinks to self* Hm, this is really nice! Darken the shading. Also, darn you lol. I was hoping to do this but oh well :) 15:37, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Dustpelt(A)~ For Approval
Okay, I finally have him ready. I practiced for a long time, but I still think this isn't the best work i've ever done. :(. I attempted to match the stripes to the warrior image the best I could, but I know I have the colors right because I took them from the warrior image.<font color="Red">When darkness turns to light...<font color="black" style="background;none">I come a callin' 16:44, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and smudge the pelt into the earpink 16:46, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes match the warrior. Blur the highlights. 17:01, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuplaoded. '''I think i completely messed this up :O. I stared at the warrior image the whole time I made this, and I tried my best to make the stripes exactly like thewarrior.:|<font color="Red">When darkness turns to light...<font color="black" style="background;none">I come a callin' 17:35, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Its too dark and a bit russet colored. Did you color pick off of his warrior image? 16:40, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Goldenflower (A) - CBA
I have officially successfully done all of her images :P Comments for improvement? 16:45, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful Ivy! Define the shading on the tail a little. I love this! 19:14, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading everywhere exept for the tail (where you define it like Mountain said) and the head. I think the paws don't need as much blurring though. <span style="">00:12, Sat, Dec, 24, 2011

That's funny, seeing as how I copied and pasted the shading layer from Jayfeather's approved apprentice image  00:25, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Jayfeather is gray the lack of blurring isnt as obvious. Lighten the shading a little bit. 02:23, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:47, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! ^^ I see nothing wrong. CBA? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:43, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nettlesplash (A) ~ For Approval
I'm extremely proud of this image. I love it so much <3 16:59, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 17:54, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED 17:58, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe lighten up the belly shading a wee bit. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="purple" >Sky-Jedi <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="orange"> You will talk to me. 21:21, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the furthest back paw and smudge the pelt inot the ear-pink. <span style="">22:01 Fri Dec 23

Boulderpaw (A) ~ For Approval
My first apprentice ^^. Tell me what you think. 17:37, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Nice! Smudge pelt into earpink. ,17:52,December 23,2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't he be short-haired, since he's a WindClan cat? 18:14, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh really? He has to be a short-haired? 19:23, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, yes, since all WindClan cats get short-haired images, unless they were described as long-haired. 20:39, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ok I'll fix it. 00:29, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the tail highlight/lighter part go along with the light source better. There's no possible light source that could make it go in the middle of the tail like that, straight through. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  10:25, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded 21:42, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is the whole thing kinda blurry? Like you resized it or something. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:41, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Runningwind (A) - For Approval
Weel, I tried match the stripes, what do you think?,17:48,December 23,2011 (UTC)

Very brave, seeing as I'd never be brave enough to try to take on this charart. Very nice stripes. Just add a little depth to the eyes. ^^ 18:27, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Shelly! Reuploaded ,19:25,December 23,2011 (UTC)

There needs to be way less stripes. This patterens pretty, but it barely matches the warrior. 21:21, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading 21:31, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ,21:53,December 23,2011 (UTC)

Theres still too many stripes. 02:24, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

And on his warrior image the stripes fade and pick back up again. And there're more spots. Breeze whisker  03:21, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, Merry Christmas :-) ,09:28,December 24,2011 (UTC)

Make less stripes on the tail. 21:44, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ferncloud (A) - For Approval
Whoo, fourth charart. I had to do both siblings. XD Took all colors from her queen image, but this seems so much darker. Help with that? Breeze whisker  17:53, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The only reason it seems darker is because the queen image has some bright highlights on it, I think. I don't believe you need to match that perfectly, lighting changes with environment. 18:29, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Mmm, okay. That makes sense. If anybody thinks I need to edit the hightlights, tell me. Breeze whisker  03:10, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 05:44, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Breeze  whisker  18:30, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Rabbitleap (A) ~ For Approval
Blah I hate this. Comments? 00:33, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

There's waste by his back lag. Also, lighten the shading and blur the pelt into the ear a bit more (hah! got all the basic stuff people pop out in one comment). 01:30, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 01:50, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the top of the rumps shading and the chest. <span style="">03:28 Sat Dec 24

Blur the transition from the pelt to the earpink. 05:19, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Merry Christmas Eve :D 14:07, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the face is too dark. Your shading layer shouldn't even make contact with the eyes. 19:43, December 24, 2011 (UTC)'''

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 20:14, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Shadepelt (A) ~ For approval
Please don't say about the color, I had a hard time :( Grayflower10 16:18, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Are you a member of the PCA? I don't see your name on the apprentice list.... And if I understand right, you can't post chararts unless you're a member. You can go join though. Anyways, lighten the whole image and get rid of the white specks on the head. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  16:21, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

The front page of PCA says that non-members can donate art. And Gray actually reserved it, so it's fine I think. ^^ She's the first non-member I've seen do the thing right. 16:40, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I did ask to join :) Grayflower10 17:09, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Could you fill those two white pixels on her forehead? 18:04, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

And smudge the pelt into the earpink. 18:05, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading placement like the one on the tutorial. Som eof the placements are wrong. <span style="">02:09 Wed Dec 14

Shading placement is the artist's choice, Sweetflower. As long as it makes sense, we can't tell anyone to make it match the tutorial. 02:59, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Please make the earpink look pink. 19:49, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't need to be pink, as the color is picked off the other images and dark gray/black cats often have gray inner ears. 01:35, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

There are a couple of pixels by the ear. -- 07:10, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? <span style="">20:48 Sat Dec 17

Quailflight, do not repeat what's already been said, please. If this has already been said, ignore me: lighten the entire image. Also, lighten up the shading just a tad. 14:11, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Please note that you have two days left to re-upload this before it is declined for lack of work. 17:42, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

The Wiki clock is officially midnight, I don't think the user is going to work on this, so it's declined. Anyone with a free project may take over  00:25, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take over! Just got an opening, I'll upload it ASAP. :) 00:39, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'm editing the reservation chart to put Shadepelt on mine, so should I delete Grayflower's reservation for her? 00:46, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, as this is no longer hers  01:23, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

...You deleted my comment. :3 Anyway, what I said was I redid it and uploaded it, and I tried to get the colors close to the other character pixels. And I did change it on the chart. :) Um...comments? 02:52, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded, fixed highlights. 00:51, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely job, Featherwillow. Take the earpink color from the loner image. <span style="">05:53, Wed, Dec, 21, 2011

Thanks! :) Re-uploaded. <span style="">15:53 PM, Wed Dec 21, 2011

Smudge the earpink into the ear a bit more, and I'll CBA this :) <span style="">21:52 Wed Dec 21

Featherwillow has been banned from the wiki. Any user without other projects may take over if they wish. 01:22, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

I would take over, but I already have 2. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Green>Merry Christmas & Hannukah to all!  01:36, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take over if thats okay? Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan!  16:19, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead, Acorn! 01:40, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded =) -- Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan!  05:34, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfur (Alt. A)~ For Approval
Comments? 08:47, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Is this his brown tabby alt? Well....I don't know if its my grandmother's computer or what, but his stripes look creamy. Make them brown. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 14:09, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think that his base color showing through from under the stripes. Blur the ear-pink a tad more and define the shading on the tail. 15:16, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yellowfang (MCA) ~ For Approval
I know the muzzle isn't the same as the apprentice. I kinda don't want to change it because it's the same as brokenstar. It would look kinda messed up if I tried to change it. Comments? 18:53, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Heathertail (A) ~ For Approval
Never done a windclan cat yet. I actually quite like this one. But the shading is bleh. I can never seem to get it right. Comments? 18:58, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, very nice. :3 Lighten the shading on the belly a tad. 19:29, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thank you :) 19:43, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Just realized that the white part of the eyes were gray XD 23:40, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Whitefang (A) ~ For Approval
I like his tail. Comments? Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Christmas is Tomorrow!!! :D  19:35, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tail stripes 19:39, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I got his colors from his warrior charart. Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Christmas is Tomorrow!!! :D  19:44, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  19:46, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

And his highlights/lighter parts. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:47, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Christmas is Tomorrow!!! :D  19:51, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the eyes, they look too dark to be natural. 21:10, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I got the eye color from his warrior charart.... Purplemoon  <font color="FF6699">Christmas is Tomorrow!!! :D  22:53, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Rockshade (A) ~ For Approval
Here he is, comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  19:43, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink a little more. 19:51, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  19:55, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the earpink a little, unless you got it from his warrior charart. Purplemoon <font color="FF6699">Christmas is Tomorrow!!! :D  19:59, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I got it from his warrior image. I am pretty sure about that. PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  20:00, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, on both, it is nearly non-existant. 22:34, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  23:15, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Rippletail (Alt.A) - For Approval
Ok, comments? ,20:24,December 24,2011 (UTC)

Gorgeous. Lighten the top of the head and isn't Rippletail a tom? Breeze whisker  20:48, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Okay it looks like *squints* that there is some white on the haunch by > over there. Blur the ear pink too.

Yes, Rippletail's a tom, but was mistakenly called a she-cat once, so the alt should be on the female blank, as it is now. Darken the while image a bit, I thought this was white at first. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:39, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Buzzardstar (A)~ For Approval
I dont much like it, but all the colours are from the leader, and theres not much i can do about it. 20:28, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nice stripes Icy! Define shadings please *blind* ,20:36,December 24,2011 (UTC)

And darken it. Breeze whisker  20:38, December 24, 2011 (UTC)