Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Tweak Page

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=Tweaking=

Cloudpelt (W) - Tweaked
He looked less blue with blotchy shadings, now he looks like redone (its not!) Darkhallows is OA ,14:07,December 12,2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the paws and blur all the shading. 20:03, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Also darken the shading on the head. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  21:16, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't the eyes be the same color as his deputy image? 15:04, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I know, Im going to tweak it **dont bite me*, Reuploaded,18:58,December 13,2011 (UTC)

How come you haven't changed his eye colour yet? This, as well as his apprentice image, won't be approved until you do. 02:14, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

looool ,20:57,December 14,2011 (UTC)

There's a lighter spot on his butt area, and the head highlight (or whatever) seems lighter than the other areas. Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 09:45, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm hightlinks for white cats are not good, its just shading, ill fix that, reuploaded ,20:43,December 15,2011 (UTC)

The shading's a bit blotchy on the body, smooth it out a bit and darken the shading on the head. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  00:59, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded ,21:01,December 16,2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 21:02 Sat Dec 17

Smallear (E) - Tweaked
Shading needed to be blurred and darkened. I also added depth to the eye. OA was Bramble. Comments? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:25, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten him so he matches his warrior. 01:26, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Oh derp, forgot about his warrior image. XD ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  01:39, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Tumblekit (alt.K) ~ Redone
OA was Nightflower; redone as a longhair. CommentS? 01:31, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Why do the eyes look blind? Make the earpink less hot pinkish/purple. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:37, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 01:38, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the neck shading. 03:11, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

re-Uploaded. 01:32, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Woody - Redone
Um.. *Steps into unknown territory* First charart that I've tweaked/Re-done. :3 So...Yepp. ;) . 01:41, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yay for your first tweak! ^^ This is lovely. Move the fur next to the head over ---> this way a bit, so it looks more like it's attached to the head. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:44, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

This is why i luffles your skill, this is awesome!Darken his eyes a bit. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:48, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

OA? 04:21, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. That would be User:Flamingomom3. :3 I'll fix this when I get home. :) . 00:19, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. 19:27 Sat Dec 17

Nightwhisper (R) - Redone
OA was Darkhallows. Shading and highlights needed to be redone - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 01:52, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Can you make the earpink a bit 'pinker'? It has a little of an orange tint. :) . 00:21, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 05:23, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Stonetooth (D) - Redone
First tweak (nervous). His descrption stats that his teeth curve out from under his lip. Iceheart said I could do this. OA was Mossleap. Comments? 02:55, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

They look like flecks of gray fur. Add lineart around them and define their shape 03:12, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

And define the highlights. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 03:35, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded  04:12, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Oh my... erm, I'd say only make the canine teeth stick out, as those are the longest. He wouldn't have his other teeth sticking out unless he had a serious case of overbite. 05:58, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Oh wow I fail!! XD 06:08, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Better! Just move the tooth a bit close to the tip of the muzzle. If you want, look here at this image of a cat's skull in profile to see how close to the front the tooth should be. 06:12, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thank you for the reference. This is as close to the tip of the muzzle as I can get it. 06:24, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink less red. 16:04, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded  00:08, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

My eyes may be decieving me, but the lineart on the chest is gray. O.o 05:33, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Your eyes don't decieve. :) It's funny I was gonna fix that but then I had a lazy attack and said "eh maybe no one will notice." 05:44, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Whiteberry (E) - Tweaked
OA was Sandy, and his shading was blotchy and needed to be re-done. Comments? 03:48, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! :) Lighten the shading. 03:50, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

And blur. :3 Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 03:51, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thankies. =3 04:38, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Can you bring the earpink more towards the front of the year? It probably wasn't listed for that but I think that should be tweaked 23:43, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

And make it a bit more pink? :3 Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 21:34, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I hate earpink. x.x 22:43, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Voleclaw (W) ~ Tweaked
My first tweak, I fixed earpink, the original artist was Mistypebble with help from Mistystar. I wanted to lighten the shading but didn't. 04:02, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Could you blur the shading a bit, Wild? I know that's not what it's on the page for, but the edges of it seem a little too sharp. 18:57, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I tried I should probably set the blur a little higer but I kind of want to redo this... 23:35, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

See what the other leads think. I think it's possible to tweak the shading without having to re-do it. Try blurring a little more. 03:10, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

No, this shouldn't have to be redone. Center and redden the earpink. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  05:37, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yeah I know I shouldn't have to I just can't figure out how to fix the layers. 15:47, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Stonestar (D) ~ Tweaked
OA was Ashshadow, I think. Shading and highlights needed to be redone, image needed to be darkened. Comments for improvement? 16:03, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the lighter parts a bit paler. Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 02:49, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Toadstep (W) - Redone
Ok, before anyone tries starting a riot, I got permission from two leads to redo his image. Honestly, from the old apprentice image depicting him with a tuxedo bicolor pattern, and from the patches looking overblurred and the shading being blotchy, as well as issues with the kit image, I think the image is fine to redo. Plus, other images have been redone on about as much as this. However, if you guys really, wholeheartedly think I have to copy the design of the old image, I will, but I really don't think it's necessary. OA was Flamingomom3. Comments for improvement? 04:01, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well I dont now about you guys, but this looks way more epic then the last image, it's fine with me. Could you add some white on the tail? I dont know, it looks kinda bare there. maybe add a white underside or somethin there - 04:05, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed with Bloo about the tail.^^

I see no need to match the other image. This looks much better anyways. Makes me like Toadstep a little more now. Keep it how it is. 04:07, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks guys. Kinda have a confession, his design is based off of someone special, bit I guess I could add a white tail tip, though he doesn't have one. 04:11, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely! ^^ I like this much better than the old one. Lighten the black just a bit though, I can barely see the lineart. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  05:35, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Clovertail (Ro) - Tweaked
Original artist is Sandwich989, the shading needed to be thickened, and I though it would look more natural like if I smudged the white and brown, so I did. =P Comments? 04:30, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the shoulder and top of her haunch a tad, define the depth in her eye. This is wonderful, great job 04:31, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks! 05:27, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Piketooth (W) ~ Redone
Okay I know this didn't look like it needed to be redone but the lineart was smudged and I couldn't fix it, so here he is, OA was Maplepool, I suck at tabbies but I tried and I think it turned out ok, if you disagree that this needed to be redone tell me and I'll just use the other one and add the tooth. 19:15, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

I love this! You did everything on this? You got skill! Tone down and blur the highlights. 19:23 Sat Dec 17

The changes aren't showing click on it and look at the first one on the list. That's the one I did. 19:51, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't Piketooth have protruding canine teeth? Should that be added? Bluestar11796 20:54, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

It is added. The changes aren't showing, remember? Look at the image details. 20:55 Sat Dec 17

Reuploaded I moved the tooth up I think the changes are showing now. 21:02, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, yes, now they are. Add some stripes to the top of his head and his ear. Good job. 21:03 Sat Dec 17

Reuploaded 21:36, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well, at least you kept my Tabby style. I liked that style, rather fond of it. Looks good, define the hoighlights, i cant see them. Lovely by the way! Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:43, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

That's because there aren't any highlights, and yeah I liked that style too. 22:46, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. ^^ Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 00:21, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Wild, you need to get permission, no matter whether you think the image needs to be redone or not. Looks at the top, it says your image will be declined if you don't. However, I've asked to redo this one before and gotten a yes (though I never got around to doing it) so this should be fine, but just for future reference, always ask unless it's on the tweak nominations page listed as a redo. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  04:25, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Stonestream (E) - Redone
Redone as longhaired. OA was Spottedwing with a tweak from Nightfall101. Comments? 20:42, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a smidge. :3 Sky-Jedi <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="orange"> You will talk to me. 21:33, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Poppyfrost (K)~ Tweaked
OA was Maplefern, and i did the same thing to this as i did all her other images. 23:10, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger on this side >>. 00:29, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I didnt touch the ear pink so im not changing it. Its fine. 00:51, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well it looks kinda sloppy on both sides, so blur them both, at least. <span style="">05:00 Sun Dec 18

Brook (Alt W)- Tweaked
She needed a torn ear and her eyes should be grey, unless they were described amber or whatever. OA is Mistystar 139. I think. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="purple" >Sky-Jedi <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="orange"> You will talk to me. 00:45, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

She was described with amber eyes, so add that back. 01:36, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. My mistake. ^^ <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="purple" >Sky-Jedi <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="orange"> You will talk to me. 01:54, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerstar (Le) ~ Redone
I got permission to redo as there was too much to fix on his old image to tweak without the original file, and Icestorm's hard to get a hold of these days. OA was... Mumble785? With redos by Nightshine and Icestorm. Comments? 04:16, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Giggity, better than his old image (no offense to my wife xD Not the face. ) I dont see anything wrong with this though, except darken the nose abit, it kinda stands out to me - 04:20, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

All you should have done is asked Icestorm for the file. She does have an email, and tons of other ways of getting ahold of her. This image did not need to be redone. Yes, the scars looked unnatrual, but, that's not something that warrants an entire image to be re-done. You tell me what was so wrong with it that it needed to be re-done? I liked the way Icestorm made Tigerstar. You could have emailed Icestorm and asked her for the image files. I don't care how cool/awesome you think this one is, Shelly. If other users get yelled at for re-doing images, even when they asked, why should you be able? Seems a little bit hypocritical.

All of Icestorm's images are being redone while she's not here, because you guys don't like them. Great StarClan, what has this project sunken to? 04:31, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Scarlet seemed to agree, maybe you ought to go talk to her - 04:34, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Don't be mad, but I'm with Cloudy on this. She would have sent you the file to tweak, I know she would've. 04:37, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I'm with Cloudy too. Plus, the apprentice image will have to be redone when it really doesn't need to be, just to match. If you're not gonna ask Icy for the file, at least keep the colors and tabby style (except the eye color, that needs to be lighter) ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  04:43, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and the tabby style needs to be kept anyways, regardless, because he's supposed to have stripes like Hawkfrost and Brambleclaw, so unless those are gonna be redone simply to match an image that didn't need to be completely redone in the first place, it needs to be changed back. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  04:46, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, guys, it actually did have to be redone. It needs to match Hawkfrost and Brambleclaw's images, and Icestorm isn't here to do it, so why shouldn't Shelly? I agree, the original reasons for redoing the image weren't right, but it does need to be redone, so this should stay up. Just change the stripes, Shelly. <span style="">04:51 Sun Dec 18

So? If Icestorm was emailed, and Shelly obtained the layers, then the stripes could just have been tweaked and possibly the scars. What were the other reasons it absolutely needed to be redone? 04:55, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well basically you're saying that everything but the shading needed to be redone, right? That warrants a redo. Icestorm isn't here to do it, so why bother obtaining the layers? <span style="">04:57 Sun Dec 18

Because the image was redone for the wrong reasons, and the style changed completely, when it didn't need to be. There was nothing wrong with the other style, and Shelly went and changed it anyways, without any regard for the other images that would need to be redone to match it. It did not need to be redone, and even I could tweak this. 04:59, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

One thing I forgot when I gave Shelly permission for this is that if Tigerstar's redone, Hawkfrost and Brambleclaw would have to be redone too... Shelly, if you think I'm sounding hypocritical I'm not mad, because I bet I am and I'm really sorry for that. As for the style, I think I have to take responsability for that too. This is my fault and mine alone. (NOTE: Scarlet's in a pissy mood today). - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 05:02, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well yes, it was originally redone for the wrong reasons, but if you look at Hawkfrost and Brambleclaw's images versus the previous Tigerstar image, they actually don't match, and they're supposed to resemble each other. The style did need to change, so this is fine as long as Shelly redoes the stripes to match Hawk and Bramble. <span style="">05:06 Sun Dec 18

The original Tigerstar image was redone for multiple reasons. However, I CBA to mention them all. If anything, the other images should be tweaked, as they're not that different from one another.... Or, if this stays, Shelly should be forbidden to take on another project until each and every one of Tigerstar's, Brambleclaw's and Hawkfrost's images matches, since she was the one to make such an unnecessary change to the tabby style. 05:20, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Look, I'm not saying this tabby style should stay. I'm saying Shelly should her stripes to match Brmable's and Hawk's, as the previous version (the one Icestorm did) didn't match them. When I said "it was originally redone for the wrong reasons", I was talking about this image, in case that wasn't clear. I think we're somehow missing each other's points here XD <span style="">05:23 Sun Dec 18

Before we go any farther, let's see what we agree on But I think Shelly should have the right to know what happening if the stripes stay (again, this is my fault). If she agrees to redo all of the other chararts or if she doesn't, we can go from there. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 05:26, December 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Scars needed to be redone
 * The stripes didn't need to be redone (and that's my fault)