Warriors Wiki talk:Adopt a User

Adopt a User has now reopened, and you can place requests to be a mentor or apprentice in the appropriate section below. Please keep in mind that requests may not be answered right away while the admins get the project in order again.

Requests to be Mentors
''Please make a new section for your request with a level 3 heading (===Title===), and the title should be "Your Username - Mentor Request". Before placing a request, please make sure that you meet all the mentor requirements listed on the project page.''

Mentor Request
Hi, I think I'm ready to become a mentor. I've learnt a bunch and I think It would be good to help out the newer users :) S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 04:49, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

The mentor expectations are currently undergoing editing, so you request might not be answered very soon. 11:21, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Mentor Request
Can I become a mentor? I learn most of the editing stuff, and my old account (Frostheart) has been on for 1 month, but then I made this one. So that makes 3 months in total. :) 02:17, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that counts. You have to be on one account for three months. Besides, the expectations are being edited, so you might not be answered soon. 03:42, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :P 04:05, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Requests to be Apprentices
''Please make a new section for your request with a level 3 heading (===Title===), and the title should be "Your Username - Apprentice Request". If you would like to request a specific mentor you should do so now.''

RoseStar- Apprentice Request
I am still soooo new it would be nice to have a mentor. Thanks... RoseStar 22:18, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Fawnspirit- Apprentice Request
Hello, everybody! I'm Fawnspirit. I love the Warriors series and want to help make this wiki a better place...and I'd love a mentor to teach me the ways of the Warrior Wiki! :D Thanks! Fawnspirit 18:52, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Agent WindFire - Apprentice Request
I've been on the wiki for a little bit, but if there's someone who could teach me coding, that would be great! If Night shine is availible and willing, could she mentor me? Age nt Win dFi re - Delve Deeper  21:23, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blossomsky - Apprentice Request
Hi! I'm Blossomsky, and I'm kind of new to the wiki. I really want to contribute more, but I'm not really sure how everything works. I'd be grateful if someone would teach me. ~Blossomsky~ 17:47, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

BeautifulOblivion has accepted this user as an apprentice. This can be archived in due time. -- 04:47, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

-hits self in head- Oh, god, Bramble, I'm so sorry! I already have two apprentices. I totall didn't even realize when I asked Blossomsky if she needed a mentor (how, I don't know…) But please don't archive this yet, as Blossomsky still doesn't have a mentor. 03:52, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Mistystream- i need a mentor
I would be so grateful for a mentor just visit my page

Thanks Cinderstream for being my mentor

Dustpelts-Apprentice Request
I am new and only know a little bit about the things here. I need a mentor. Deputy of StarClan 20:22, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Silverdapple's Apprentice Request
Hi, I'm pretty new here, and I know how to edit and stuff, but some of the more advanced stuff I need help with. I've been asking various older members for help, but I've decided I needed 1on1 help. Please consider me!*Silverdapple* 22:52, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Other Discussion
Please put any other discussion here, under a level 3 heading as well.

Mentor expectations.
Hi, I can see loads of users need to be adopted and there are hardly any mentors. A lot of users could be mentors, but, of course they don't fulfil expectations :P Instead of 25% in two contributive places, what about 20% ? It would make there be more mentors, and therefore, it would be better for the project, and users would not feel sad, that they have not been adopted by a mentor. Zoe27 18:48, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

I like that Idea I know most of what there is to know about WWiki I would also be like to be a mentor.....but I do not have two contubusive name space with 25% Rainear   be as silent as rain

Yes, the idea seems like a good one to me too, it looks like a lot of users are without mentors and I think it would help the wiki if this took place. Tansyfoot. 15:28, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Hi can i please become an apprentice? i am on almost everyday.**Sunstar** 17:54, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

You should put that under Requests to be Apprentices Section above Rainear   be as silent as rain

Hm...it seems like a good idea to me. ♥Ice storm★  17:58, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I also think this should take place incase the current mentors become inactive. I hope the admins aprove this idea! Zoe27 18:26, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The problem with the multitude of apprentices is that we have no guidelines on when an inactive apprentice or mentor should be removed. I am attempting to fix this in the above discussion. I disagree with this proposal because at least 20% in two contributive namespaces would be less than half of a user's full edits. If a user spends more of his time doing uncontributive edits than contributive, I don't want him as a mentor. Mentors should realize the full purpose of the wiki and make sure their editcount reflects that they love contributing to it as a whole. Also, I would like to mention on a tangent that I have unprotected the main project page, so when an apprentice graduates the former mentor in question can just remove the apprentice from the list themselves. Please use the privilege respectfully; continue to use this talk page as you have. If problems occur with apprentices adding themselves in on the main page without requesting here, the page will be protected again. -- 02:30, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Even though it would make becoming a mentor easier for me, I agree with Bramble. 03:38, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

For what it is worth, I think Bramble is absolutely correct on this. 19:42, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I disagree with Bramble. First, the observation of "at least 20% in two contributive namespaces would be less than half of a user's full edits" is incorrect, as the user may have edits in other contributive namespaces as well.

For instance, I have 35% + 5% + 2% + 12% + 15% + 1% = 70% in the listed namespaces (and would have above 80% if I didn't do the charart categorizing), meaning 3500 contributive edits; however I would not qualify as a mentor with the current requirements. On the other hand, members with 100 contributive edits could easily qualify, even if I doubt someone with that much edits in the required 3 months is enough dedicated to be a mentor.

Therefore, I'd propose something of the following: "User must have at least 75%, and at least 500 contributive edits (both criteria met), all listed namespaces added up". Numbers may change as necessary, this is just an example.

Of course, this is only my own opinion of the matter, playing the devil's advocate. :) Kind regards, 14:18, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Helix makes valid points. I find this to be a better idea over my original one. The only rub is where we set the qualifications for how many contributive edits and overall percent of contributive namespaces should be. I've been here for two years... so I don't really know what a good standard is. I would say that the percent must at least be at fifty, but I have no ideas for the number of contributive edits. What do you all think? This is more than open for suggestions. -- 14:42, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really know. I get what you are saying Bramble and I get what Helix is saying and they both make sense. I think we should merge those two ideas together. How? I have no clue. Ha XD :D 18:06, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Agree with Bramble: the numbers might need some tweak, 75% is probably too high, although it should not be lower than 50%. About the number, 500 would mean at most 5-6 contributive edits a day (projected on 3 months), this might be lower as well. We might go as low as "50% and 250 edits". Looking fortward for input from all members, of course. :) 18:15, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with your Idea but I think it should be 50% with 450 edits and do we need it to be three months how about two months or is there even a limit?

I would say 60% with 450 edits. 18:06, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really think it should be that high. I know that users aren't here for just chatting and socializing, and they should actually contribute, but a person doesn't really need to have like 10 edits a day. They have some time to relax and enjoy this wiki. And they also contribute to other wikis as well. Maybe around 55% (or as low as 45%) with about 350 edits? I know some people will mostly disagree and say that my thoughts are too low, but just my opinion. :) 02:32, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I get what you are saying Frostheart but, we need to make sure the mentors are serious about the wiki, so they will stay relatively active. I just thought, do we really need an edit number? I mean we haven't before, and some users edit a lot to blogs and stuff and not articles. I think we should just stay with 60%. 18:06, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I get what your saying Whitestorm but if they only contributed on blogs, User pages, and User talk they would most likey only get 20 for contiubitive edits so I agree with Frostheart 55% with 350 edits sounds good

I'm not really getting this. 55% what? I'm a bit confused. 17:22, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I know what your saying Whitestorm, and I do agree that mentors do need to be fully dedicated. But that doesn't mean they have to edit constantly. ^^ They might be active and checking things out, just not editing. How about we check their edit count (warriors wiki and warriors wiki talk) since the projects do help this wiki, and make sure that most of their edits go to one of those? Or both. 19:47, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I just want to make sure that we don't have users becoming mentors that only contribute to user talk, user page, and blog posts. The main thing I am worried about is the editcount. 01:49, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Let me make some things clearer to all of you. We are only examining contributive namespaces; these do not include things such as blog, user talk and user edits. When we say number of edits, we are talking about contributive ones. Now, my proposal is that a mentor must have at least 60% total contributive namespaces (all contributive namespace percents added up) and at least 500 contributive edits (all contributive namespaces added up). More than half of the total percent of a user's edits being contributive and a certain number of them will ascertain dedication to the wiki as a whole which should be the focal point of a mentor. -- 04:43, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

That sounds more than fair to me. 60% contributive is not actually that hard to achieve when you take into account Main, Talk, Warriors Wiki and Warriors Wiki Talk, Templates and Category edits. That's only ten percent in each if it were spread equally and most people have far higher in at least one so this is achievable. 500 edits in three months isn't so bad either; they soon add up quicker than you might think. =) 09:19, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

As I said above, 60% sounds good. I agree with Bramble. 11:28, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

60% is OK for me. About 500 edits - do you suggest this as a number for total or contributive edits? 09:16, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I would say contributive edits, but I am just probably over-reacting. So whatever you guys want to do. 11:19, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Contributive edits. I find it extremely annoying if a user celebrates over having reached the 1,000 edit marker, but only ten percent of their edits actually contributed to anything. I want at least half contributive. If we are all agreed on this I can alter the guidelines. -- 05:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. 10:58, August 16, 2010 (UTC)