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Leafstorm (D)- For Approval
Yay! Second charart! =) What should I do to improve it? Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:09, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Her ear pink should be darker, shading needs to be blurred more, and her tail needs more shading. 雨 晶須  23:12, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Close the gaps in the shading and blur it more. Also add shading to the legs and tail. FrostCloud 23:14, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

This looks yellow as opposed to ginger. Try saturating her some Night  Fall 23:19, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, as stated above, and the ear pink needs to be moved more into the ear and lightened. Also, remember to put "For Approval" in the discussion title.  Mo us  et  al  on  !!  Here comesSUMMER!  14:14, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

The eye should be made like this: File:Eye Chart.png (see the warrior version), instead of the current eye. The saturation tool is a sponge located near the dodge and shading tools, so use that to saturate the pelt color and give it more of a ginger color. Define the ear pink some more, but not too much. The two hind paws should also have shading, and the top of the head. Bram ble 15:35, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading and define the ear pink. Darken the shading on the tail, and add shading to the back paws, and muzzle to the top of the head. The ear not facing us should have shading, too. Ice fall 00:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 14:46, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Darken the shading on the main part of her body and darken the earpink. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  22:37, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well, could be just me, but I don't see any highlights. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 03:33, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights aren't needed. Blur the shading-- Night s h i n e   R  03:43, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:20, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Shadings needs to be blurred a bit more and make the ear pink more pinkish, this is good overall ;) Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 04:22, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 19:52, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more. --  Sky dragon Ride the wind 23:40, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shadings on the head.. Dawnleaf. Deputy of SnowClan  02:52, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 21:20, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

This is really sweet :) The back shading is very thick though, maybe thin it a bit? And maybe make the ear pink a bit pinker? On my computer, it looks very red. Brightfrost  of SunClan...  15:14, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. =) Better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 16:05, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Comments?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:08, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a lot and blur the shading. The fur colour is a little bright, so I suggest saturating it a bit-- Night s h i n e   R  05:52, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

This may be my monitor, but the white pixel on the eye looks a dull, you might want to brighten it a bit. River pelt Heart of Amber 20:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think it might be your monitor, because it looks fine on mine... then again, I'm probably misunderstanding what your talking about. =) However, I did darken the ear pink and blurred the shading and saturated it; is it better? Oh, and by the way, I'm stuck in a summer school session from June 14th to June 25th, so I might have some difficulties getting on to work, but I should be able to. I'm going out of town after that though, and I won't have access to a computer very often, if at all.Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:21, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading. It still looks too neon orange coloured. Darken the ear pink-- Night s h i n e   R  23:24, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur it. Darken the image. Icefall Icy Winds 22:26, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:18, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Try desaturating it with the sponge.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Also darken the shading and earpink. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:51, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Did I darken the image too much?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:53, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Way too dark, and bright. It looks neon. Lighten it. Quailflight 20:55, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm really confused... how can something be both too dark and too bright at the same time?98.242.242.121 03:30, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, that was me... Sorry, forgot to log in! =) Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 15:49, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think (I mean think) what Quailflight means is that the dark areas are too dark and the bright areas are too bright, catch my drift? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 16:13, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I understand, but if not... well, it's always fixable. =) Is this any better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:26, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd say it looks pretty good. =^.^= ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 13:23, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks neon, desaturate it some more. And I can hardly see the ear pink, lighten it some Night  Fall 21:16, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Needs to be desaturated, and shading needs to be darker.-- Dawny  19:00, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:48, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Why is she bright red? Ginger is orange, she should be orange. Any shade of orange, and blur alot more. Spirit cloud48  20:58, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

How is that red? That looks orange to me ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:16, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

R-E-D Spirit  cloud48  21:20, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, now I know how to spell red. And acutally real ginger is pale orange. Just saying! :) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:47, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Im sorry then, you must be color blind. It is most definitly red. Sorry Hollytail about the arguing! Some people cant see that its red; change to ginger, and blur. Spirit cloud48  23:05, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's not red on my computer, it's dark orange. I would suggest lightening it though. Her description isn't dark ginger. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  23:09, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

OK, 1: do I just lighten it or change the color entirely? And 2:please be nice, Spiritcloud48, because that's probably offensive to anyone who is colorblind, and also because your monitor could be displaying it differently on your computer, because you seem to be the only person who thinks it's bright red.Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 02:27, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lightening it will work unless you just want to start over. The earpink also needs some work. Perhaps take the color from a nother ginger cat of a similiar color and make it a bigger. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  02:36, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

-_- Just for the record I'm not color blind. But you could check Buzzardstar for the earpink. He's a ginger also. :) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:53, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Probably not Buzzardstar, one of the reasons I nominated him for tweak week is because I think his ear pink is way too hot pink. Night Fall 07:48, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well then you've got me. XD I guess you should look for a ginger cat for examples. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 17:30, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

I made it a lighter orange, is this shade any better? As for the earpink color, i tried to make that lighter, too...<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 03:17, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, it still looks kind of neon.... try desaturating it or something.... Tawny SMEASH 11:34, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the front of the haunch and to the tail. Icefall★ Talk 13:47, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

The tail already had shading, but I darkened it a little bit. Is this better? Also, I'm leaving at, like, four a.m. and won't be back til August........<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 18:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if we can let you keep an image for a month. You still need to add shading to the front of the haunch. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  01:16, June 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * No way can we leave this here for a month with no hope of it being touched... but what I'm going to suggest is that we call this 'withdrawn' and archive it for now, but allow Hollytail to keep it in her projects until she returns; everyone is entitled to a holiday and sometimes we have little choice in the matter. Ultimately it's up to you though, Bramble. -- Sandy star 14:52, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree with Spiritcloud; it looks Firestar-red to me. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 13:11, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hi I'm back! Is this any better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 22:12, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the back leg farthest from us. 23:28, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

She still looks red. It should be like to orange on Ottersplash's pic but a bit darker. <font color="#26b1c8" face="French Script MT" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool <font color="#26b1c8" face="French Script MT" style="background:#ffffff">♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="French Script MT" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 07:18, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thin out the shading along the back. 20:20, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better? I think I made the shading too light but idk <font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail he's there... inside your mind... 20:17, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur it. Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  23:53, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail he's there... inside your mind... 00:16, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It still needs a lot more blurring. And more shading. Check out some of the tutorials. (I have one on my page... and there are a bunch of others) Darkhallows... Mew? 07:38, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Either lighten the shading or blur it much more. 20:52, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and darken the ear pink. 15:35, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

I still think you should lighten it a bit as this is a very bright shade of ginger where she is just described as normal ginger, which would probably be a little bit paler. Also, blur what you have for shading and then add some more. And then blur that. XD 22:52, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (MCA) for approval
My first charart for PCA. Comments? <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 14:34, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading along the back a bit. Dawn leaf The Epicness Of This Epic Signature! 17:28, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

The haunch needs some shading (near front legs) and her chest needs some shading as well (depending on where the light source is) and her scars are a little too straight, perhaps make them curve a little. But she's great for your first charart! 雨 晶須  01:42, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 13:03, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Much better, but just blur the shading on the haunch a little bit. Dawn leaf The Epicness Of This Epic Signature! 17:12, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

You need to blur the burn shading a bit.  ☼ S u n s p i r i t ☼ 

   ß     20:55, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 12:38, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

A little more. Hopefully 3rd times the charm! ;) Dawny  18:52, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''<font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 18:17, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading Icefall  Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit pinker (like the color on the mc image) and center it in the ear.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 04:00, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 16:22, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and add some shading to the herbs Night  Fall 04:34, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the tail. Icefall★ Talk 13:36, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I can't blur the shading more. Better? <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 16:17, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make it a bit thinner ♥Ice  shine★  12:35, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

How can I make it thinner? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  10:04, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Either with the dodge tool, by lightening it to the color of the fur outside of the shading, or the pencil tool, by drawing over it with the color of the fur outside of the shading.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 14:17, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Are you sure you can't blur the shding more? If so, you could try putting a color that is lighter that the shading but darker than the fur next to the shading and blurring that. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 13:25, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  07:07, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights need to be Blured Rainear   be as silent as rain

The overall shading and highlights need to be thoroughly blurred. They are much too thick and blotchy right now. -- 01:01, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I re-done the whole image. Comments? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  12:19, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Haunch hilights need to be blured more Rainear   be as silent as rain

Reuploaded. I blurred the highlights more. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  17:02, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

This looks lovely. Comments before approval? -- 12:31, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

She sort of looks black. She's supposed to be dark gray. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 21:02, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. (or highlights. depending what way you see it.) And make the scars straight. (just my opinion.) 02:58, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made it lighter and blured the shading and highlights. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  09:18, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, blur the ear pink, and make it more reddish-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:20, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more.

(S) - I don't think you need to straighten the scars, that's the way they'd be if she got clawed across the face, but the one scar goes right through the eye. A lot of times, when that happens, the cat is blinded, like Brightheart. Also, I don't think her other images have the scar through the eye. Just an idea. 11:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Comments? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  09:23, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot-- 23:05, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I hate shading :P Better? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  10:09, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Rosetail(A)-for approval
Rosetail's apprentie charart! This is my third charart. Hope this goes well! Comments for approval?

ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 03:02, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes need to be lightened a lot. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 04:43, June 29, 2010 (UTC)\

Add/darken the shading, lighten the stripes a lot, and make the ear pink bigger. Icefall★ Talk 14:35, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm on it! :) ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 22:32, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

That look any better? ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 23:07, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Icefall★ Talk 00:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

'kay ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 15:16, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

That better? ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 20:02, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and darken the ear pink. Put your signature next to your message, not underneath it--  Night s h i n e    ~  23:09, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Done ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 14:33, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger. Blur the stripes. Darken the tail stripes--  Night s h i n e    ~  18:41, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth out the stripes, like, blur them, ♥Ice  shine★  12:33, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long! :) ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 23:12, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the body stripes a bit and blur the earpink. Ashshadow Ag 03:14, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Done ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 18:44, August 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Make the eye colour more visible. 11:46, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's kinda hard to do since her eyes in her warrior and elder charart is a really dark blue, but I tried. ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 00:12, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Some of the lineart is gray and the stripes are still a bit too dark. 00:15, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights lap with the lineart making it gray. 03:01, August 11, 2010 (UTC

Darken the ear pink and blur the tabby stripes. 20:18, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the tabby stripes are fine compared with the other images and they look very nice this way. I would suggest to saturate the ear pink some more to have it stand out against the stripe color. -- 02:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Could you desaturate, or make the lightest part a bit smaller, the highlight on her flank? It's just bathering me. 11:51, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Sorry, I haven't been updating much lately. The internet's been really bad. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:39, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Foxheart (Alt.D)-For approval
hope you like it (First Real Chartart) Rainear 03:39, June 29, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

Sorry, this will have to be declined, Shimmerpool had him reserved first.  Dawny  03:45, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

No that that users is "Alternative Warrior" mine is "Alternative Deputy" Rainear 03:49, June 29, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

Opps sorry.  Dawny  04:14, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I took him out of thumb nail for you. You should always upload it full size. As for the image, the lineart looks very strange, and it's way too big. What art program do you use? Second, It's not the same color as the deputy image Foxheart already has. This is yellow as apposed to ginger. Third, there's no shading at all Night  Fall 06:15, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks very strange...I would say to layer a deputy image on it. Add shading. The pelt color should be the same as his warrior image. Make the ear pink smaller and darker. Icefall★ Talk 14:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks as if you traced it. Did you? Icefall★ Talk 15:03, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it shows up waaaaaaaaaaaay to big. Like you saved it about three times the normal size of the file. And, it does look like you traced the lineart. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   15:15, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Also, rename it Foxheart.deputy.alt.png Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   18:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Here:use this and color it in. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 02:46, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I used My Paint if you want to know :) -Rainear 19:04, June 30, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

You should use GIMP or Pixlr to do chararts. This is too big. Use this blank:--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine is right. Use one of those programs, and save that blank to your computer. ☽Ice storm★  19:19, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Please use GIMP or Pixlr to add shading. Layer over the line art I gave you onto your image--  Night s h i n e    ~  20:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I Dont have Gimp or Pixlr all I have that works with the template is Paint. Rainear Med-cat of Riverclan

Okay, first, this needs to be bigger. Right-click the image Nightshine gave you, press, 'open into new tab' and then save that blank. Go to pixlr.com, and open the image. Then, you should probably re-do it/layer the lineart over this image. Then, darken the shading, blur it, make the ear pink smaller, darken it, and blur it. Also addd shading to the front of the haunch, tail, and face. ☽Ice storm★  21:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Also, use a tutorial for the eyes. Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   23:37, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, you don't have to start a new section when you are redoing it. Instead use the old section you put up, then put the image there. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 14:41, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I've merged the two sections. Please continue to edit from here. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  21:11, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I haven't read Bluestar's Prophecy at all but, how is Foxheart described in the alternate version? (Time for a trip to the bookstore xD) Quailflight  05:17, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

lol, yes. In the allegiances of Bluestar's Prophecy, she is mistakenly described as a tom. And, in Battles of the Clans, there is a chapter where Foxheart is a tom throughout the entire thing. But I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be a she-cat, especially after reading Secrets of the Clans. The Clan suspected Foxheart as being the secret mother of Brokentail, so you know xD Night  Fall 05:19, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-How is it now? Rainear  be as silent as rain

Add shading. Ashshadow Ag 03:00, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Added shading Rainear   be as silent as rain

Blur the shading and there is color outside of the line art. Ashshadow Ag 03:23, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Blured shading (Hope it's better XD) Rainear   be as silent as rain

Not bad for a beginner, but lets get to business. It can be a tad hard shading when your image has a transparent background so you probably see some gray smudges around him. That came from your work of burning my dear friend. Plus it looks like you ran over his eyes with the burn tool as well with changed his eye color. The coloring is kind of darked than Foxheart's original image so try dodging it or desaturating it some. Which ever you prefer :) Once thats done then you can blur in the shading as it looks a little choppy to me, but that might be my computer.--  Gladiator  Band Geek  05:03, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Blured Shading even more to make natral fixed eye and It's not darker than the origanal Charart Rainear   be as silent as rain

Is it better or worse? Rainear  be as silent as rain

Reloaded-I know no one mentioned but I looked at the Foxheart page and his eye color is light green so I change the Charart's eye color. Comments? Rainear  be as silent as rain

It has been a day and a half and no one else has commented is it ready to be acepted? Rainear  be as silent as rain

You should wait at least five days, if not a week for asking for comments. As for the image, blur the earpink. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  02:47, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Also, the line art on the jaw looks a bit odd, as if some of it is missing. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  02:48, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-I fixed jaw lineart and I blured/redone the ear pink. Comments? Rainear  be as silent as rain

Oh! I added some shading/highlights on his face. Any Comments/suggestions? Rainear  be as silent as rain

This has an unusual texture that I don't normally see, and it's very pretty. You did a nice job. =) There are a couple of things though; the front foreleg's shading's transition is too hard; blur it and add some more shading down the leg. Add darker shading to the hind paws, as those would be in shadow. Add a little more shading down the tail and blur the existing shading slightly. Off image critique now; I moved the image to the top of the section; please keep it there so it's in a consistent spot. Also, you seem to be only typing three tildes instead of four; please type four so the timestamp will be there as well as the signature. -- 12:19, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-I did what you said bramble and sorry about the tail I did what you asked but I think I blured the transaction too much Rainear   be as silent as rain  15:31, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is there anything else that needs to be done? 21:02, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

You should wait a few days before asking if anything needs to be done, but I see that there is blurred lineart by his left ear, and on his left leg and haunch, but if it's shading I'm seeing instead then you should blur it. Tiger X Amber We see Heart to Heart 12:20, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Thanks Riverpelt fixed the ear, leg, and shading :) Better?

Darken the ear pink and darken the shading a bit. The chest line art looks a bit funny, overlap it with another of the long haired deputy blanks and it should be good. The line art also looks strange around the front of his haunch-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:22, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Darkened the ear pink and tried to darken shading and fixed the Line art

Thicken the shading on the haunch and blur all of it. 13:33, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Did what you said Ashshadow :) . Better?

The red part indicates that the shading is blurred and theres also some color mixed up. The blue indicates color outside the line art and the line-art color is changed. Lol..it's kinda messy xD I don't have a good stable hand. 17:51, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's coming along nicely. Darken the shading a tad. 17:48, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Tried to fix it hope it's better XD

Blur the shading. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:46, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I reverted it to one of its original forms as the shading is lovely right as it is shown now - it doesn't need to be changed further. Saturate and brighten the ear pink to have it stand out a touch more, but don't make the transition hard, and I'd call this good. -- 02:55, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

You took the words right out of my mouth, Bramble! (Seriously, I said the same things, clicked save and it gave me the edit conflict thing) Anyways, I think you should make the eye a bit brighter. It looks really pale. 03:19, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The tail color where it's not shaded looks...brighter than the rest of him. I'm not good with pixlr or gimp or whatever, but maybe blurring the shading just there would help. Don't mess with it otherwise, Bramble and Dove are right, it looks amazing! 11:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art is still blurred and some of the line-art is brown. 19:07, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the entire thing, this is brown-ish compared to Foxheart's other images. 70.64.149.241 05:37, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Just got back from camp fixed it up. Except it is not brownish and I took the color from the deputy Image so yeah! Comments?

Rainear, even if you took the colour from the other images the colour will be different because of shading and highlights, and your shading could've made it look that way, too. Even if you took the colour from it that doesn't mean anything. If you compare it to her other images the colour on this is duller. That was me above, by the way. 05:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

And almost all of the lineart is blurred. 05:25, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Morningflower (A) - For Approval
Morningflower as an apprentice; not very happy about the way she came out...anyways comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:black">Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 02:11, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

It looks very good! I suggest adding more brown patches. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:20, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Added more patches. <font color="Cyan" style="background:black">Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 03:21, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches more--  Night s h i n e    ~  03:27, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Blurred it.<font color="Cyan" style="background:black">Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 05:23, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. Darken the shading, I cannot see it very well. ♥Ice shine★  15:02, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Darkened the shading. <font color="Cyan" style="background:black">Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 19:14, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Center the ear pink a little. <font color="Gold" style="background:Green">Cherryfur123 Home + work should never be together! 21:06, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Thanks! Fixed the ear pink.Anything else? <font color="Cyan" style="background:white">Ðαώήlέαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 21:33, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Add some patches to the tail. ♥Ice shine★  12:22, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Added patches to the tail.  Dawny  19:54, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's looking good, Dawnleaf! Just add some of those yellowish colored spots that her other images have to make it look more like them. ;) <font color="Gold" style="background:Green">Cherryfur123 Home + work should never be together! 22:29, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty! Do what Cherryfur said about the tan splotches, but also work on earpink; it looks like one of the brown smudges to me. Could you make it more of a pale pink, bigger, and more blurred? Holly dapple  04:54, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Urh... This looks good, but I already reserved it. I couldn't work on it because of my exams, but Insane said that it was ok.... I'm confused and a little bit annoyed. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:Thistle; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">ωiſdɦɛɑrŧ 05:29, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wildheart: You should have posted something here so we would all know. We would've given you a bit more time. As for the image it's very good. Just do what Cherryfur and Hollydapple said. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  17:52, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this image, Wildheart, if you would still like to you can take over. Dawny  19:56, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnleaf: Aw, no! You don't have to do that! Yours is way better than mine is, anyways. Keep on working on it, and next time something like this happens, I'll just post something up here about being delayed.

Ashshadow: Insane told me to put a note in the table where I reserved Morningflower's apprentice pic, and I did so, but apparently somebody deleted it. I'll post something here next time. Hopefully there WILL be no next time :P <span style="font-family:verdana; color:Thistle; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">ωiſdɦɛɑrŧ 23:01, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I did see that note about the time I was looking for a cat to (before Hawkheart). As an extra suggestion on improving the image, Dawnleaf, the shoulder highlight is a little too low. Make it a little higher. Three cheers for the red, white, and blue!  23:21, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, I don't want to do her anymore, someone else can take over, from where I left off. Dawny  01:57, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

If i cant do Ivytails (Alt) version i will do this (wait how do i edit it i save it and put it on my pixlr right? oh well i will learn.)  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 13:44, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh NVM if its ok with everyone can i do this  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 22:56, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Wildheart's doing it. (?) ♥Ice  shine★  22:58, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Thats wierd its crossed out like this

Wildheart Morningflower (A)

thats what it says  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 23:06, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Birdpaw is right, I checked. Why is does it have a strike-through through it? Has Wildheart decided to not do Morningflower? I'm confused. The same thing happened before, didn't it? I can't remember...I'm a little sleepy, and my cat (Gertie) is trying to get my attention by biting my foot and being the cutest darn thing. Holly dapple  03:58, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Can we decide whether anyone is going to do this as I am confused as to whether to archive this as withdrawn or not -- Sandy star 18:01, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I'll finish it. No sense letting a nice image go to waste over literally nothing. I'll tweak it a bit and put it back up. I seem to attract Morningflower images. =D -- 01:01, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Bramble; and yes you do XD (Not to mention I failed in my goal to do all her images - I got bored lol). The main issue with this I think is consistency with her exisiting images; just the colours used are not quite the same. [I'd also like to note that the past tense of 'withdraw' is 'withdrawn' rather than 'withdrawed' for whoever wrote that - it's not important who] 11:59, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Aw i wanted to do her...Oh well may i suggest making the earpink a tad bit bigger?  Sandle  GregxSara forever 18:42, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

The original image was lovely in its way, but it bore no semblance to its counterparts. So I completely redid it, and it now most closely resembles the elder image, as the cat is facing the same way in the elder and apprentice images. The ear pink has also been made larger. I apologize for how long this took.. -- 04:32, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a tiny bit bigger. 22:15, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger and more visible 15:09, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well, here's Hawkheart. I like him about as much as I like Thistleclaw. (I. Am. Not. A. Hawkheart. Fan.) Still, I thought he'd be fun to do. All character art is fun to do! Hawkheart was a bit of a challenge, which made it even more fun. Gotta go see the coverart for The Sign of the Moon (I saw it while I was uploading)! Yay! So, comments? I'm kind of happy with how he turned out. :) Holly  dapple  04:19, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, but we've got to figure out which style we're going to use, yours, or Moonpelt's. Personally, I prefer Moonpelt's, it looks more flecked. But that's just me Night  Fall 04:38, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Nightfall. I know my Hawkheart doesn't look like Moonpelt's. I was thinking about how I was going to do Hawkheart for atleast four days. I really liked his/her style too, but I just can't smudge it in that cool way. I tried, but it looked horrific. I am not joking. I can't make it smudged without messing it up. Holly dapple  04:51, July 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well if we're using yours, lets blur in the flecks some more please :) I can see a bit of sharp edges in some a little. They are like REALLY sharp, but they're very defined and kind of make it stick out.-- Cchslogo.gif Gladiator  Band Geek Treble_and_bass_clef_heart.png 05:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. All spots blurred with Photoshop Elements, Shimmerpool. Did I get what you meant? I saw it on the throat patch particularly. Man, I'm sleepy. But TW is over, so I can get back to work! Yay! Anyway, if there are any other areas in particular that look weird, let me know, please. Holly  dapple  06:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

This looks nice. I have two small suggestions: the ear pink is a little big and is almost falling out of his ear. And the highlight on the shoulder, as well as the spots could do with some more blending. Perhaps try using the smudge tool a little on the spots and then blending. It takes some getting used to but looks good. 12:05, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Fixed the earpink, blended the highlight, and smudged and blurred the spots. I kind of like this. :) But I was wondering if since he's supposed to be "flecked", maybe he should look more like Ashfur or Ferncloud? Oh, and before I save this, if I don't respond to any messages right away, that's just because I may not be able to get to the computer (what with the homeschooling, cats, computer, and heat!). But I didn't smudge the paws because two of my cats have shag-rug long fur, and their paws are not smudged. Holly  dapple  05:03, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, maybe he should look more like Ferncloud and Ashfur. Darken the shading around the forearms and haunch a bit more-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:24, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that if you add a few smaller flecks to what you already have then it will be fine. 11:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. I added a few smaller flecks...I don't know if I messed it up. I darkened the shading around the forearms and the haunch. Do I need to darken it a touch more? Holly  dapple  21:04, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Add more tail stripes and darken the shading on the forearm and chest-- 23:06, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * smacks forehead* I forgot to reupload...ugh, stupid Hollydapple. So technically, now he's reuploaded. I did everything I said above...sorry. Holly  dapple  21:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Foxheart (Alt. W) - For Approval


Well I think I got the colors right for this one and I counted right so it should be under the limit...unless someone beat me while I was uploading this x] Here's Foxheart as a male :3 Commentsto let me know because I think I might have to darken the image.--  Gladiator  Band Geek  04:42, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

You did WAY!! better than me. XD (Foxheart Alt D) I think it looks awesome!! :D Rainear   be as silent as rain

Good! blur the highlights. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 09:32, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit. Dawnleaf 19:22, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Updated my updates shall come at a slower rate now that school started for me today.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:41, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * mine does not start till september 6 lol blur the earpink a little bit more :) and dont laugh at my siggie its two last names meshed togeher  Sandle  GregxSara forever 16:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the ear pink.-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:25, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading. 00:57, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit bigger. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:42, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

The tail shading really doesn't need blurring nor does the ear pink need to be larger. I do agree it needs to be a touch darker and blurred. The midriff shading seems too large and is rather dark and blotchy; further the highlight from his chest area down and make the midriff shading thinner and less in the way. -- 02:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if this is probably a stupid question, but can you please explain the midriff Bramble? Also do you mean the whole image needs to be darker and blurred or just the tail? My mind is overpowered by school work so I'm falling behind on this art O_o please don't decline guys.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:54, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * The midriff is between the haunch and shoulder area. It's okay, no problem, my mind is overpowered by school work and marching band, too, so I understand compltely. :) 20:37, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Waspwhisker (W) - For Approval
I counted and this was the 35th, and this is Waspwhisker. Any comments/critisism for him? S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 08:15, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Fixed blurred lineart around body S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 08:15, August 7, 2010 (UTC) '''

This is great! Blur it a little more, though. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 12:12, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Ashshadow Ag 13:37, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

The patches are unevenly blurred, A N D Y S C H L E C K<font color="#009dff">Mousehis now obsessed!  15:37, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Fixed up some of the patches, I don't know about the shape, but I blurred and darkened the shading. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 22:24, August 7, 2010 (UTC)'''

Theres blurred line-art on the back, and the ear pink needs to be blurred a bit. Also darken the shading, otherwise this is pretty good :) Dawnleaf  22:27, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: I tried to darken the shading, do you mean to burn it so it gets darkened? Thats what I mostly did, I blurred the shading and fixed the blurred lineart. Can someone do the scar for me? pixlr is all fuzzy for me right now. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 06:24, August 8, 2010 (UTC)'''

Dude, the scar I drew was bad, but I added the scar for you Sunny. Hope this is good enough Earth  bender Tawny Style! 17:27, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Thanks Tawny, It's great. Comments? S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 05:13, August 9, 2010 (UTC)'''

Your berry welcome Sunny. ;P So far, its looking great. Myself, I can't see anything wrong. But maybe...theres a patch near the ear pink. Blur the gray part just a TAD more. Earth bender Tawny Style! 12:55, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, the scar kooks unrealistic. It's unevenly blurred, like before. 16:00, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if this really matters, but isn't his pattern a little. . . far fetched? I thought he would just be gray with white markings. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 20:24, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

If it is bad, I can honestly start it again, if the scar's unrealistic. But Thats up to you guys. Should I just start him again??? S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 21:53, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the scar you guys, Sunny, I have an original version of Waspwhisker without the scar if you like. But if you have a version,...then you know... Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:20, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the pattern is a little unlikely (but what do I know of cat genetics?) and perhaps starting over would be a good idea. Persevere though because this is almost there and your second try will be infinitely better than your first. I haven't read SD so I don't know where the scar should be, but having it drag over his flank, midsection and chest area seems a little... well not quite realistic. 12:08, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Tried a different style. I'll add in the scar later. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 23:48, August 10, 2010 (UTC)'''

Blur the patches more. 23:56, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink 00:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Much better Sunny! Darken the shading and make the ear pink more pinkish. Perhaps darkening the eyes too. 02:30, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Waaay better. Blur the patches and ear pink a bit. Also, the highlights need to be blurred in some places. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 06:18, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Dawny & Mosspool AKA Dovesong! Is this better? I darkened the shading a tad, and blurred the patches. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 09:13, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

There's a blurred spot outside the lineart on his chest you should remove, and maybe blur the highlight a bit more in between the haunch and the left foot, but very good Sunspirit! Tiger X Amber We see Heart to Heart 12:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches a little bit. 20:15, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Blurred patches, fixed lineart and blurred highlight. LOL i just figured out that you weren't supposed to use the smudge tool for a blurring tool XD S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 07:17, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. This image is a gray and white patched cat; do you think he should look more like he did in the SkyClan manga (Gray with a white muzzle, chest, and underbelly)?-- n i g h t  s h i n e  15:00, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it has to. It matches his description and the manga is just how the artist pictured him. Feel free to ignore me. 16:27, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, as Night said, blur the patches and earpink. 00:56, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on his haunch a bit more. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:41, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I made a different version, sorry if thats inconvenient. Choose which one looks better or something. 09:37, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The first one. The patches just need more blurring. 13:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I perfer the first one. The shading on the white fur needs darkening though. 19:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Did as everyone asked. Nightshine has got a point about the magna, but in the magna Ravenpaw didn't have a white dash on his chest, and he did in the books. I'm horrible at making gray & white chararts! 05:32, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot-- 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's great, but it looks kind of flat. Add some highlights and more shading 02:16, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. The shading on the white fur needs to be darkened. 18:14, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, i don't know how to darken it! I've had a guess, but how does everyone blur everything without touching the line-art? 01:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

To darken the shading on the white fur, set the burn tool to "Highlights" and set the exsposure to 6. Blurring just takes practice ;) 05:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Dawny! Darkened fur color, is this anywhere near done? XD 06:03, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lineart on the bottom of the haunch is blurred. 12:29, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nettlesplash (W)- For Approval
Since I'm withdrawing my Wetfoot image, I think this should be under the limit. But, anyways, here's Nettlesplash. I had a little trouble with the shading and all. Comments? <font color="Gold" style="background:Black">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> In stores worldwide 10:47, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

It's really good:) Blur the shading more. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 12:09, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred as much as I could. The blur tool hates me for some reason xD. What else? <font color="Gold" style="background:Black">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> In stores worldwide 13:04, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to be a bother, but blur the back shading a bit more. Also, blur the earpink. Earth bender Tawny Style! 14:00, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the eye a bit. Ashshadow Ag 14:03, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred the shading (think I messed it up D:) and the ear pink. And I lightened the eye. Is it better? <font color="Gold" style="background:Black">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> In stores worldwide 15:00, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the head, and chest, and blur the ear pink a tad. Dawnleaf 19:20, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

He looks a little reddish, but I don't know if that's really a problem. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ 22:31, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded better? <font color="Gold" style="background:Black">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> In stores worldwide 22:42, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the head, and the shading on the back is a little thick. Dawnleaf 22:44, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Gold" style="background:Black">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> In stores worldwide 23:05, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the head, and back, it's still too thick. Blur the highlights S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 06:02, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm probably gonna have to blur the shading again >:( <font color="Gold" style="background:Black">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> In stores worldwide 12:18, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

What should I do next? <font color="Gold" style="background:Black">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> In stores worldwide 14:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks nice! Earth bender Tawny Style! 15:05, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should try making the colour more like the colour on Fallowfern's queen image that's up for approval. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 20:22, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay, I tried but now it looks like the shading needs blurring again >:(. Yeah, so what'd you guys think? 20:36, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

How is it now? 00:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights 03:03, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Cherry! XD The shading down the back is still a little too thick. Blur the highlights to, There too concentrated. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 09:17, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Grr... I don't think it's any better... I think I still gotta blur the shading... What do you guys think? 12:05, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Looks GREAT! I like it! 4pinkbear 11:43, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. 22:37, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the earpink. Anything else? 22:56, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish and defined. 04:15, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 21:30, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Much better :) 22:02, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Anything else? 23:59, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the forearm shading, fix the line art on the chest; it looks a bit blurred-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:27, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 11:50, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Blur the haunch shading. Add some face shading. 00:55, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the haunch shading and added some face shading. I darkened the shading, but it's not that noticeable. Anyways, is it any better? 11:06, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the two highlight areas, blur it and make it bigger. 17:55, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:10, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his chest, and add shading to his left front paw. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:39, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Done. Is it better? 20:15, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else that I need to do? 20:40, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Just so you know,Cherryfur, you have to wait at least 5 days before asking if there is anything else needed, but maybe blur the ear pink, and brighten it a bit, it's kinda dark. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 22:26, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry if I sounded impatient and all, but school's starting in a few days for me and my after-school activities have already started, so I was really busy and I wanted to get most of the things about this image done before the end of summer. Anyways, I blurred the earpink and lightened it. Anything else that needs to be done? 22:23, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Rockshade (W) - For Approval
Fail, fail, EPIC FAIL!! I am NEVER doing a black cat again...ha ha they are unlucky. I know the highlights on the shoulder are too noticeable, but if I blur them anymore, then the color goes missing because photoshops blurring is too strong. So...comments? Earth bender Tawny Style! 15:25, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Use a darker color for the highlight then you should use Pixler.com or Gimp although I use nether, I use My Paint but I alway have to remake the background to make it transparent Rainear   be as silent as rain  17:49, August 8,2010

Blur the shading, make the highlights darker. The shading is also lumpy and seems exactly black to me. Make the highlights smaller. Frostheart ♥  17:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I fixed the highlights, shading, and I lightened it. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:28, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 19:08, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are basically taking over the complete picture now. Just redo the paint, add some shading as you would. Blur, then just midtones in highlights, and click once or twice. Make sure it's not bigger than size 50. Frostheart ♥  19:47, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

He looks dark gray...I suggest making the image darker. Dawnleaf 19:53, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I realized that something changed in the pixlr highlighter, so get rid of the highlights, redo the shading and choose a slightly lighter color for the highlight, choose size 50 and just pretend thats the highlight. ^^ Frostheart  ♥  22:07, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED:Frostheart, I use photoshop, not pixlr. (I only use it to delete the white part). Anyways, I darkened the image,fixed the highlights. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:30, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights smaller and make the shading noticeable in the leg area. Frostheart ♥  02:37, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I made the shading a bit more noticable, but I epically FAILED on the making it smaller part. ;P Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 13:52, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's much better now. Just even out the shading on the hind leg. That's it. xD Frostheart  ♥  19:12, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I fixed the shading on the hind leg. Suggestons? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:08, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch,otherwise this is great! :) 22:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little lopsided. 03:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks fine to me. 13:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Same here. And actually, black cats are lucky in Europe, and white cats are bad. 0.o 12:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: fixed the hind leg shading. Suggestons? Tawny is here... 22:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading.-- 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Where, specifically? (sorry, but I'm starting to get demented ;P)

Creekfeather (W) - For Approval
Eh. Comments? Geor ge 00:04, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Define ear pink and make ear pink slightly larger Rainear   be as silent as rain

This looks very nice, but the ear pink is gray and very small. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ 00:30, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Is this over the limit?  Sand  It's not your fault Texas 01:34, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, there are five discussions and one withdrawn image.

Anyway, darken the stripes a bit. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 01:56, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger and pinker. Frostheart ♥  02:35, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

This good darken the ear pink a little and make it tad bigger and darken the tabby stripes a little Honeyfeather 07:35, August 9, 2010 (UTC)Honeyfeather

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Geor ge 13:25, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is sort of a gray color right now, make it pinker or redder. 14:11, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

He looks more patched than tabby. Perhaps define the stripes more.. 23:29, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Same as Ashshadow, he needs to have more defined stripes. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:Teal; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Iceɦɛɑrŧ 23:59, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The style is a bit messy. I think you should darken and define them. 00:29, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I actually like the indefinite stripe pattern; not everything has to be precise, especially in the natural world. Other comments on this? I do agree that the ear pink color needs to be changed to a brighter, red/pink color. -- 03:19, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Dang, forgot to say, '''Reuploaded. '''Comments? Elorisa -sama  12:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree that not everything has to be precise, but he really looks patched to me right now. 20:32, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Egg (Lo) up for Approval
So here it is. It's my first one, so I know it's not that great, but what do you think? <font color="981f1f" style="background:Gold">Breezestar <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> Only a Breeze... 04:22, August 10, 2010 (UTC) 

You're gonna have to redo it - it needs to be a png file. -- 04:27, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I changed it <font color="981f1f" style="background:Gold">Breezestar <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> Only a Breeze... 04:43, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

De-thumbed it. It looks pixelly. You can fix that by blurring the parts that are pixelly. Also, he has no eye colour. De-saturate it a bit, too. He looks too yellow right now. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 04:50, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it File:Egg.loner.png. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  15:11, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good for your first image. :3 I would say what the others said, and darken the shading some. ;)  Kit ties Rule da WORLD! Mumble sees a kitty!!! 16:51, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is his eye black now? Like I said before, you need to desaturate it as well as blur the shading. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 20:52, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Add eye color blur shading add shading on back legs and look at the Charart tutorials

By back legs, I think Rainear means the legs fathest away from us. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  18:12, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty good for first char art just blur the shading and I don't see and eye color. Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  21:13, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Add some ear color and blur the shading a bit. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 22:36, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur. 15:21, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Add eye color. 15:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks green to me, make the ear-pink more noticeable. 04:10, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make his eyes blue as said in his description. Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  00:17, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

make the ear pink more realistic and blur shading more. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 23:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nice, blur the ear pink more :) Shruggy talk 13:42, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Should he really have a shredded ear? He got the ear because he was in the battle with the twolegplace cats. 20:41, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

There's a bit of lineart outside the shredded ear. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 22:29, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

He is still yellow-ish. He needs to be browner, Daisy's pic is a good example. 70.64.149.241 05:42, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Please work on this or it will be declined 07:58, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Breezestar please say Reuploaded or Updated when you update your image so we know that it's been worked on. As for the image choose a more pink color for the earpink. 12:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I changed the ear pink color and made it darker. Is it right?

Plumwillow (A) - for approval


My first cat. I don't know about it... 15:43, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Plumwillow.apprentice.png and blur the earpink.Also, I'm pretty sure this is over the limit.-- . Silverstar  . talk  15:50, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

This is good and like silverstar said blur the pink ear XXRainfeatherXx 15:54, August 10, 2010 (UTC)Honeyfeather

I think it's blurred enough, but the corner is touching the ear, make it shaped and make it lighter. Frostheart ♥  17:14, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too pink. Make it a bit darker. It's amazing for your first cat! <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  17:22, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The top of the haunch needs blurring. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:01, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Er... like Silverstar said, this is the 38th charart up for approval on this page, which is over the limit. This project talk page is only allowed to have 35 sections (chararts for approval) at a time. 雨晶須 夏天來了! 21:53, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

So what do I do? Should I make the corrections or is this taken down and sorry, I miscounted.68.84.233.244 23:29, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! That was me. I thought I was signed in. 23:31, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I made the ear pink not touch the line art, darkened it and blured the shading and thanks Rainbreath. 19:23, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

You still have to rename it to Plumwillow.apprentice.png --''' . Silverstar. talk '''00:13, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I forgot to mention that, but I did it. 01:32, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

No, you didn't. You called it Plumwillow_Apprentice.png. I know it's pretty small, but hey, my coal warrior one was originally called Coal.Warrior and they changed it for one capital letter. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 05:53, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry mosspool, I fixed it now. Is there anything I need to change with the image? 16:00, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller. 20:11, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and darken the haunch shading. 00:27, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Darkened and blurred shading.--<font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:Blue;">Will <font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:Green;">oww <font style="font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:Yellow;">hisp <font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:White;">GO<font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:White;">WARRIOR <font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:White;">CATS 02:25, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the shading around his hind-leg, and maket the ear-pink lighter. 04:10, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how to fix the shading on her hind leg because every time I blur it, it gets bigger. What sould i do 18:26, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

On the blur tool, make it a very small brush and zoom in so that you can blur in detail around the haunch area. Blur thoroughly in that area so there are no hard lines between any transitions. The ear pink color is fine in my opinion. -- 03:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? 19:09, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights slightly. 19:51, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Blurred highlights. 15:33, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading a bit more and make the ear pink smaller-- 01:29, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? 15:26, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The highlights look beautiful, but the one on her front leg is in the middle of the lineart. I think you should move it back some, so it's more in the middle.

Red (R) - For Approval
This should be right at the limit, if I counted right. Anyways this is my last day before school starts, so I will be kind of busy now and not as active. I'm a very busy girl!!! XD So here is Red as a rogue. Constructments? 14:42, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't over the limit, I think. This looks really nice! All I can say is center and darken the ear pink a bit. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 17:08, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Anything else? 15:14, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit bigger. Darken the shading a bit-- n i g h t  s h i n e  17:22, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Nice style. The ear pink should be visible more. 00:25, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's great! Darken the ear pink and shading more though.

(S) - I feel for you, Mouse. My orientation was today... I love Red! It looks like there's a lighter band running along the middle of the image, horizontally. 20:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh I feel horrible. No updates! Sorry, I've been very busy, first week is always uber-crazy. LOL so anything else? 21:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Beautiful! But make the ear pink more triangular. I really like your technique! 01:17, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Coal (R) - For Approval
Err... my first rogue. Comments/Criticism? 雨晶須 夏天來了! 14:05, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Great. Make the ear pink smaller and blur. 17:18, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 17:59, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 21:11, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Rain whisker  17:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the entire image. He looks dark gray, not black. 22:31, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Because the line art is black, the image has to be a really dark gray, not black. 23:18, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

But still, it's lighter than the loner picture. 20:44, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Umm... so should I darken or not? 01:26, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think you should. They should be dark gray and not black, but he can still be darker. 03:41, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Honeyleaf(R) - For Approval
This is my first pic. Comments? Flowerleaf 14:25, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

nice but i see no shading or highlights and you might want to darken the ear pink a little but nice job :) Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  14:41, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darkened ear tip but you can barely see it now Flowerleaf 15:30, August 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * hits self on head* im soo sorry im meant make it redder sorry if this is annoying you DX and also add shading and highlights but highlights are opional.:) Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  15:34, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

XD I'd better start working on it Flowerleaf 17:06, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading. Make the ear-pink lighter, kinda of a red color. And I agree, preferably add highlights. (Lol! I just think stuff looks better with highlights. xD) 17:31, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I got the ear pink color from Mistyheart's guide. And how do you shade/highlight? Flowerleaf 18:09, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights aren't necissary, but you may add them if you wish. I believe is shows how to shade a rouge on Mistyheart's guide. 19:56, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

But I'm confused by the 'size 70' thing.... What does it mean? Flowerleaf 01:08, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's the brush size. Whatever size you use make sure it's the faded edge. On pixlr.com if you've been using paint. 01:17, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Does it work on Gimp? That's what I've been using..... Flowerleaf 02:00, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. It just won't be size 70. Pick a brush that isn't too small or too big. 02:25, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I added shading the best I could. I'm not very good though... Flowerleaf 02:43, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

You can barely see the shading..... 19:09, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

She's too...orange. I think you should darken her and add some more stripes to the belly, head/muzzle, and chest. Darken/add shading. 21:42, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

-removed pics- Which ones the best? (i know that i need to blur the tabby stripes on last 2 and add/darken shading to all but last. and the last 2 are fails :P) 18:25, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, way too orange. There should be more stripes, and more shading. The name 'honey' suggests a brownish orange. Look at Honeyfern's images. Darkhallows... Mew? 03:08, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh.. she is ginger. Still, needs to be darker. Darkhallows... Mew? 03:13, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

So um... which pic should I edit and stuff? (see above) 15:02, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Tried new version (I know I need to add shading and stuff but I'll do that if this pic is good). 20:11, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Made a brand new one. I think this is the best so far :3 00:43, August 19, 2010 (UTC

If you edcide to do that one, then alright. Delete all the others. Make nose-pink and make the ear-pink noticeable. 00:51, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

'Kay! 01:15, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 01:32, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ear-pink and ear-nose is too bright. 17:14, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 17:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

She looks Firestar-red. She should just be normal ginger, not dark/bright ginger. 22:02, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree with Mosspool, too bright Rubyblaze 13:23, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Better? I dodged her some to make her a lighter ginger 16:41, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The earpink looks hot-pinkish to me. 20:40, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks pale pink to me though. 22:19, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and shading. 14:37, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 17:01, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Rowanfur (KP)-For Approval
I'm not too sure about the shreded ears. I also added some faint tabby stripes. I can get rid of them if needed. 21:49, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit. This looks very golden, can you make it more gingery? Blur the tabby stripes a bit and maybe add more along his back-- n i g h t  s h i n e  21:52, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'll darken the highlights a bit(those are what makes him look golden). The stripes look overblurred if I blur them anymore and I based him off of Redstar. 21:56, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the face stripes. 22:58, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the face stripes more. Otherwise, it's great. 23:23, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. When I said the stripes I meant All of them. 23:53, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think he needs more stripes. It looks funny how they're only in the places where their is shading. Also his ear pink and nose are far too dark. 03:01, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I like it this way, actually. Makes a nice change from how an orthodox tabby would normally look. Other opinions on this? -- 03:39, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

This still looks very golden to me.-- n i g h t  s h i n e  05:17, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

It must be your screen than. It doesn't look golden to me. 13:02, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Does it look golden for anyone else? I think you should still make it more gingery-- 17:41, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

He does look very golden to me, Night shine. I agree he needs to be more ginger. 18:30, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by more ginger. If you google ginger cats they're not bright orange but closer to this color. 18:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make him more orange, then. 18:52, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I also agree, he looks golden. And can a tabby cat even look like that? 19:00, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

A tabby can't but a ginger cat can. It's called solid ginger. I still don't think it's too golden though.This is a picture of my color reference for ginger. 20:21, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, a tabby can, but I don't think a ginger could only have stripes on the legs. (google 'lynx point'). I would add stripes all over, or just get rid of them. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

He has stripes on his face too. This pattern isn't very common but possible. Other images also have this style.See here and here. 22:12, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Right, I forgot about lynx points. I agree, Shady. Just because other cats' images do doesn't make it any more realistic. 22:33, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ashshadow, about your colour refference, in a real photo there are many different coloured pixels that create the image, so choosing one of them isn't going to look the same colour as that cat. He looks very golden compared to that cat. 22:40, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I never said I took the color from that picture.I merely uses it as a reference. Compare this image to a golden cat it doesn't match. He looks ginger on my screen and I'm going to stand by that. Also like I said before it's not common for this pelt design but it is possible. It's called solid ginger or something along those lines. 22:47, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, maybe you have a weird computer screen. I'm sorry if I seem stubborn or annoying or something, but he looks golden-ish. Just because he's not golden like Mothwing's image or whatever, doesn't mean he doesn't look goldeny. He looks golden-brown-ginger. And like I said before, his ear pink and nose are very red. I think you should make them a bit pinker. 05:43, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Sorry, Ash, but I've got to go with Dovesong on this. It looks golden to me, too.

reuploaded. I lightened the nose a bit but you can't see the earpink if it's any lighter. The point I was making was that it wasn't golden. The highlights may have given it a slight golden tint but that's because I chose a more natural orange color. 19:33, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The color will stay as it is. If you can say it's golden-brown-ginger, then you're being a little too picky. Y'all are reacting like the pelt is blue. Are there any other comments besides the pelt color? Personally I see nothing else wrong with the image. -- 19:55, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt color is fine, but again, I really don't think the stripe pattern is possible. Maybe faint-er stripes, if you don't want to remove them. Darkhallows... Mew? 03:03, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly Shady you seem to be the only one bothered by the stripe pattern. Sorry but I really don't think I should change it. 22:38, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

12:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Cool thanks Sandy! It's really hard to find good images like that. 12:26, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Tinycloud (W) - For Approval
1 Word: Fail. Comments? 21:52, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It looks very flat right now. Try darkening the shading in some spots to make it have more texture-- n i g h t  s h i n e  21:53, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should thin the shading some aswell. 21:58, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading or the highlights more...depending how you would take that in. Hehe. 23:23, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger, lighten the shading. 02:59, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is lovely. Blur the shading, as Frostheart said. 21:39, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Ok, I fixed it all up, any better? 07:44, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it a little bit more. -- Sky dragon Flight of dreams... 19:45, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Nice picture but blur the shading a little more--the colors look a little seperate. Willowheart1231 22:50, August 19, 2010(UTC)Wllowheart1231

They look very different. Just lighten the shading and blur it. 20:43, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Billystorm (KP)- For Approval
I can't get the earpink the right color. The eyes... what do you think? idk Darkhallows... Mew? 22:27, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the eye highlight slightly smaller, lighten the white, color the nose, and darken and enlarge the earpink. That was a mouthful. 22:30, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

His pupil should be black, no? 22:41, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the white parts whiter and make his foot completely white. Darken the shading a bit. There is some blurred line art around the collar-- n i g h t  s h i n e  22:50, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add some white near the arm and the haunch. 22:55, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ice, there doesn't need to be white there. It looks like his image from the manga and his warrior image-- n i g h t  s h i n e  23:05, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. On the warrior image, he has a white stomach, but nevermind about that then. 23:19, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

The white sort of looks ginger-ish. Also, blur the highlights. And he needs nose pink. Also, his eye lineart looks grey instead of black. And his ear-pink is way too small. 02:58, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the colllar tag the same colour, and there is some colour outside of the tag. 16:41, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ehh... This was somewhat experimental. Is he better now? I didn't blur the highlights- those were there to show faint striping (if you look at a cat in the sun, you'll see them.) Darkhallows... Mew? 21:35, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Why did you get rid of the collar tag? I just wanted you to make it all one colour :S 21:40, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I had some formatting issues... somehow the tag disapeared, I wasn't trying to get rid of it. I just fixed it. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:44, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it more reddish-- 21:51, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Done. And changed to Billystorm.kittypet Darkhallows... Mew? 22:02, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink more and darken the shading a bit more, excluding the back shading.-- 04:38, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

The white on his tail covers almost half of it. It should be smaller. Also, in his other image he has white on his belly and such. That little space by his leg and haunch should probably be white as well. 22:03, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Darkhallows... Mew? 23:14, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The white still covers half his tail, and there's still no white on his chest. 05:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry! Fixed. Darkhallows... Mew? 05:43, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mintfur (SC) (W) for approval
My first Charart!! If Mapleshade can't be done because it's not avalible yet this should be under the limit. I'm still new to this so I'm not sure, but what do u think?<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  02:29, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes Flowerleaf 02:30, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I took it out of thumbnail for you. This is a good charart, just darken the shading and blur the stripes. And, if you don't mind me asking, what does SKC stand for? :\ 02:33, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

It stands for SkyClan. I like this, just make the ear pink darker. 02:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Add more tabby stripes on the left side. (chest) Also fix the stripes on the legs, it needs more than just straight lines. 02:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Thank u for changing it from thumbnail, like I said, I'm new to this.I blurred the stripes and darkened the shading and ear colour, but i could be darker in the ear, but for the leg stripes thats what her kit picture has so should I change it or leave it the way it is?<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  03:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, just leave it. It looks good now. 03:24, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't look at her kit image. Now it's a tiny bit too blurred, but as I said before, add a tad more stripes near the chest. It's great. :) 03:32, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are a little too blurred now. Sharpen them a bit. 03:58, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

My sharpen tool refused to work properly, so I had start from the original and do everything again, but I like it better like this as oposed to super blurry.<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  04:56, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

SPECIAL K!!!!!!!!!!! I AM SO PROUD OF YOUUUU. Disregard the caps, peoples. Blur the chest shading a tiny bit. ωiſd ɦɛɑrŧ  06:13, August 16, 2010 (UTC) .......PS I can't believe you got your first charart up BEFORE mine -_-

Fixed it. Thank y'all for all the help.<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  17:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC) PS. i got mine up first because i wanna be a warrior before u coa coa puffs.

...Blur the stripes. 19:12, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I blurred the stripe again and if i do anymore blurring they get blurry so i'm hoping this is a happy medium. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  19:47, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. 21:37, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Did it.

Make the ear pink a bit bigger-- 21:54, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Did it. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  22:50, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

.The ear-pink looks a nearly white on my computer. 01:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I tried to match the ear colour with the chart. Hope the ears good now. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  05:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and thicken the haunch shading. -- 04:39, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Did it, but now the stripe in the middle looks weird and i don't know what to do about it. Any suggestions?<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  22:17, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not expert but to me, you may want to blur the shading a teeny tiny bit more Rubyblaze 13:10, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred it. I think it looks better. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  18:21, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 14:35, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blossomfall (Alt. Ki) For Approval


Here's Blossomkit as she was described in Long Shadows and Sunrise. Which one do you like better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  15:30, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Pearsonally I like the long haired one. Good work!! 15:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, seeing as the rest of her images are long-haired, I'd say you have to use the longhaired one. Darken the shading. 17:13, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened shading. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  17:17, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and blur the shading-- 17:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded The earpink FAILED. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  18:40, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Is that darker patch on her right side the stripe or the shading? If it's the stripe, it shouldn't be there because it's supposed to be going down her spine. If it's the shading, lighten and blur it. 18:43, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded The darker patch was the stripe. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  19:00, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pinkish. 19:07, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripe on the head. 19:09, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blured stripe more and made earpink more pinkish. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  20:21, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more- 20:58, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading under the head on the neck. Err, I don't know how to say what I mean. See Willowpelt's kit image. Do you see how under he head on her neck there is shading? 22:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blured shading to the max and added shading under head. Anything else? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  23:22, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading or blur it more. 02:06, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened shading. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  12:07, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The chest shading needs blurred. 12:17, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading. 20:55, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Rabbitleap (W)- For Approval
Criticism and comments please! Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Both are great, but the article only says a brown tom. Not a mottled brown tom. The second one appears golden to me. Also, blur the shading and add ear-pink on the second one. 16:29, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, how could I forget that? I'm re-doing both of them. Also, it doesn't clarify what type of brown, and I think mottled would make it more interesting. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Took them out of thumbnail. Add earpink on the second one and make it more brownish. 16:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I have to say the second one. I'm pretty sure if he was mottled it would have been mentioned. 16:47, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I re-did them so they're both brown. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Use the second one, as there is nothing saying he is mottled. Make the earpink more noticible. 17:15, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

How is the new one? I edited it. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

It's good but you can't really see the ear pink, maybe lighten it. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  17:52, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Now? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Mabe a little more. 18:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading-- 18:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Is it better now? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more pinkish. 18:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. You already did. Make it bigger, then. 18:39, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, is that good? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more. 18:45, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

This good? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more of a triangle shape. It looks circle now. 18:55, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

How's this? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. And instead of saying "Better now?" or something like that, just say reuploaded. Not to sound rude though. xD 19:03, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, though it doesn't look much different. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. 19:08, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you just said... Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

She means that fix the shape and make the ear-pink more noticeable. The ear-pink is the ear color. 20:03, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Please rename this Rabbitleap.warrior.png. Darken the shading-- 21:04,August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too...pink. Make it reddish. 21:34, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Are you just searching for criticism? XD Anyway, it was reddish before. Any senior warriors think it's ready to be accepted? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks fine to me. Darken and blur the shading more-- 22:16, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine, do you think it's ready? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Spread the highlights. Make the shading even in the haunch. Also, please be patient. xD It hasn't even been 1 day. 22:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art is brown in his haunch and it's also blurred. 15:14, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the burn tool just makes it darker, and it's actually not blurred. Sunleap 13:21, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but if you get rid of the shading then you burn it again, lighter, then it wouldn't make it darker. Yes, it's still blurred in the haunch. 15:36, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 16:05, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

There's still brown in the haunch and a tiny bit blurred. The red is blurred and the blue is brown. 17:45, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 20:52, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

From the angle you're doing the highlights, it seems as if the highlights should be on the tail and the back legs too (only a bit.) 21:17, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sunleap 21:24, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 21:24, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Jagged Rock Where Heron Sits (Ro)- For Approval
Total Fail. Criticism/Comments? 18:22, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Add some darker mud as well as the mud he already has but it's good a side from that. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  18:29, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the brown patches more. 18:31, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the mud some. 18:33, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is over the limit-- 18:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's the 35th one. I counted it three times. 18:50, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's the 36th. Sorry. 19:05, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

One is withdrawed, I believe this is the 35th. 19:09, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Whoops. 19:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I added a dark mud and a light mud one. 20:36, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The mud streaks are too thick. Mak them thinner. 21:28, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Which one is better? I just did a whole new one. 23:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I like the second one best. The earpink looks sort of...weird, like there's a dent in it, but my eyes might be playing tricks on me. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  23:24, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The second one looks better. 12:16, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The second one's color looks better, but the stripes are to thin, in my opinion. 12:21, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the mud streaks a little more Rubyblaze 13:19, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred mud streaks and fixed ear-pink. 19:41, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Shorty (W) - For Approval
- GIMP's blurring made the stripes look purple -_- He was a bit of a challenge to do, but it was worth it! I'm actually quite proud of him. Comments? 22:29, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make his tail a bit shorter. Define the stripes. Darken the highlights-- 22:32, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Define the stripes on his tail. 22:37, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Take a tiny bit of black off the middle of the paw. You should be proud :) 22:55, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights. Besides that, he looks good. 11:47, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are just a bit too bright. Also, his page says he has amber eyes while on this picture his eyes are green. 23:20, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

True, but his page, the rogue also has greenish eyes. 23:51, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

What eye color does he have in the books? 20:44, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: The stripes didn't look too blurred to me... 20:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but he still has amber eyes. I'm sure you've seen lots of images where one has this eye colour and the other has that. . . like Tinycloud! Her apprentice image has green eyes but her page says she has blue eyes so her warrior pic does, too. 22:37, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

So should I add amber eyes? 14:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nettlesplash (Ki) -For approval
Okay this is my first charart to get approved Comments? 01:44, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and make the ear-pink bigger. 02:01, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink redder, and is it my computer or is his back a whole lot darker? If so, lighten it. 02:45, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

It is. The shading on the back is also really blotchy. Try and make it one solid colour. And there is some blurred line art under and on the right side of his mouth. Also, make the earpink bigger and more noticible. 03:01, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

The tail needs to be darkened, in my opinion. 11:44, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''Redone. '''Comments? 13:11, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a little sloppy. 13:20, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. The highlights look blotchy. Blur it. 17:41, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Nettlesplash.kit.png 01:21, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur ear pink and darken the face shading. 02:36, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. Shadowshine's computer is down at the moment and we can't redo it on any other computer. We are still looking at the comments on it and we will get to it asap!! Shadowstar and Blueshine remember Moonclan

Redone. Finnaly I got my computer fixed XP but I still cant promise the next update... Comments? ShadowstarandBlueshine remember Moonclan 02:44, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks kinda dark for pale brown. Lighten him a bit. 12:16, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Redone. '''Comments? ShadowstarandBlueshine remember Moonclan 13:39, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight. 14:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mintfur (SC) (A) - For Approval
It should be under the limit because Gorsestar's warrior pic got declined. This is my first one, and I did it on pixlr. Willowheart1231 01:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

The tabby stripes seem odd. Make the ear-pink smalker and more neutral. The line-art is blurred in his leg area. 01:40, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripes are cool, but more should be added. 02:33, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink some more. 11:57, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Willowheart1231 21:47, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

The kit picture doesn't have any stripes on the chest. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  21:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Most tabby kits are like that anyways. 22:20, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

So... no stripes on chest? Willowheart1231 22:40, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

You could afford to add some more stripes. And by the way, most of the time people don't draw stripes on the kit image's chests just because they can't. .. just saying. It looks lighter than her other images, too. Darken it a bit. 23:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkeded it a bit and added two or three more stripes. Willowheart1231 23:37, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I think you need to brighten up the ear some more, I can't hardly see it. 22:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Brightened ear pink. Willow heart  23:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I still think you should remove the chest stripes. For consistency. 12:19, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure. I made her kit image a long time ago when standards weren't as high as they are now and people not quite so picky so I was never asked to add stripes to her chest. Dovesong: It wasn't that I couldn't draw them, rather that they weren't asked for and I did the image in a different style. I'm quite happy to add stripes to her kit image if this is deemed the better version. 14:21, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Tangle (E) - For Approval
With Rabbitleap (A) being declined, this should be fine. Comments?-- 00:13, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

This is beautiful but the ragged patched of fur are blurred so I think you should define them more :) Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  00:18, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a tad bigger, other than that, it's really great. 00:19, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made ear pink bigger. I did the ragged fur the same way I did it on his rogue image. I think it looks cool being a bit blurred-- 00:24, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

oh ok i didnt see :) then i see nothing wrong Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  00:26, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are too dark and there are too many of them. Elorisa -sama  00:52, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I like the stripes but you need to blur the shading coming off the tail by the leg. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  00:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred stripes and fixed colours-- 01:10, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I like it, but maybe a little more blur on the tail stripes? Willow heart  01:57, August 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Re-Uploaded blurred tail stripes-- 05:49, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

There still are too many stripes. Elorisa -sama  12:51, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. And blur them. 16:20, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I really love the stripes. They remind me of real tabbys. :P 17:02, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree, the stripes look fine. And I like the way you did the tangled fur. However, maybe you could add one on his tail? 20:46, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear-pink bigger. It's still pretty small. 20:49, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't even look like the same cat, thats how much different it looks. I still think getting rid of some of the stripes would help. And lightening it a touch. Elorisa -sama  20:52, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The shading made it darker. I think it looks beautiful, as the stripes are more realistic, and there is darker shading. On his haunch near is tail, there is a faint darker line. 21:58, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should use the long-haired blank, just becausehe's supposed to have messy tangly fur. But considering that his other one is shorthaired, I suppose you should leave it. 22:28, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded added ragged fur on tail, blurred stripes, fixed ear pink. I made Tangle's rogue image when I wasn't the best at chararts. His stripes are a bit odd in his rogue image so I wanted to make them better for his elder charart-- 23:24, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Fernpelt (KP) For Approval
Fernpelt as a kittypet. I withdrew my other one so this shouldn't be over the limit. I sort of think her facial striping makes her look angry. Oh well, I'll see what you guys think. Other than that, I have to say I'm quite proud of this one. Comments? 22:15, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The first time I saw it, It didn't make her like angry, but I read your comment and then I moved my eyes (lol) to adjust it. And it doesn't really seem like it makes her angry for me. The two stripes above her eyes look weird because they remind me of eyebrows. :P Besides that, make sure the ear-pink doesn't check the head area. It doesn't have to, but it personally looks better to me. 22:26, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, lol, that's what I meant. The angle makes them look like angry eyebrows. It's just her other picture had eye dots, so i thought this should too. Make sure the ear-pink doesn't check the head? What does that mean? XD 22:30, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, do you mean touch the head area? Personally, I just like it this way, but if anyone else agrees with you I'll change it. 22:31, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The dots should be vertical. Darkhallows... Mew? 23:19, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh DUR. I just thought they looked only slightly angled in her warrior image, so I drew them that way. Is this better? I think I should make them smaller. What do you guys think? 23:47, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think this looks great! Thicken and blur the back shading some more-- 00:06, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Done. I also thickened and blurred the shading by the shoulder, it needed that too. 01:25, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think the nose and the ear pink are a little bright, what do you guys think? LOL, giving critique on my own artwork. 01:27, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is fine but you can darken the nose pink a bit-- 01:29, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

When I tilt my computer screen back a bit, I can see some color out of the lineart... not sure how to explain it, but it looks kind of like shading out of it. Not really sure if that's the right way to explain, though, lol. --- 01:47, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's shading, because I use a completely different shading method than most people on here and sometimes colour ends up outside the lineart. I'll fix it later; no time now. 02:26, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Some of it was also residue from the stripes due to feathering edges on the brush. I think I got all of it. IDK, do you guys think I should change the tail stripes? In her other image, they seem, like, curvier. . . 04:03, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome job! Blur the stripes a bit. 14:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

You withdrew Fallowfern a kittypet right? because it still says your doing her on the resevring table... Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  14:45, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

never mind as for the image blur the stripes on her tail and this should be good :) Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  15:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Crowfeather (Lo) - For Approval
Ok, this is only my first charart so what should I improve? 14:04, August 21, 2010 (UT

Awesome for your first try. Darken the shading and blur the ear pink. 14:31, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is great. Hehe ^^ Darken the shading and blur ear-pink. 15:07, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, Whitestorm! Darken the shading, blur the earpink, and possibly make the earpink more reddish? I also think you should make his body lighter. It's really hard to see the lineart, and he's just a dark gray anyway. 15:44, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 16:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reedshine(W)-Withdrawn
-This is my first one. Tell me what you think! 14:20, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is Reedshine even a real character? 14:30, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry but Reedshine already has a warrior image. Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  14:38, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Where? I didn't see it on the page and it wasn't reserved. 14:45, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It's there. 15:21, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It is? Well, for some reason I can't see all of the charart on this page. 15:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It's the only charart on her page. (I believe) 15:39, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm...My computer doesn't see it. I'll withdraw 15:40, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oakstep (E) - For Approval
Well, this was funXD Constructments? -- H A W K T A L O N        ö 14:58, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Now, this is just me, but it seem like there are a whole bunch of stripe, I would remove some. Also, make the ear pink more noticable. 15:00, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I personally love tons of those stripes, they remind me of real tabbys. xD Darken the eye. 15:08, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Define the earpink ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:29, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Shrewtooth (W) - For Approval
My second Charart, I didn't know an eye color so I did yellow, comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:05, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is uneven. Blur the highlights and shading a ton. 15:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? Or more?  ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀ GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:43, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing a bit. Make the ear pink smaller. Blur the shading and highlights-- 17:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Fallowfern (KP)-For approval
YEY fourth char art i'm actually proud of this one :) Comments? Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  15:30, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticible. 15:48, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sagepaw (W) - For Approval
Comments? 15:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a ton. 15:36, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent! :) Make the ear pink more noticiable.

Re-Uploaded. 15:56, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight on the shoulder could still use some blurring. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 16:11, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 16:21, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

We never saw him as a warrior. Should he still have a warrior charart?-- 17:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It was confirmed in the latest chat that he is a warrior, but Vicky didn't remember what his name was. 17:36, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! Then I guess this is fine. Darken the ear pink and blur the highlights. Darken the shading on the haunch and forearms-- 17:45, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 18:15, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the shading and highlights.-- 18:22, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Skipper (Ro)-For Approval
Here's Skipper. I didn't know what his eye color was, so I made a lucky guess. It's my first charart, so I hope you like it! Mist fire  16:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the shading, it looks pretty good! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 16:38, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and blur the white transition. Darken the shading a bit and blur it well-- 17:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfur (E) - For Approval
Comments? 16:42, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, make the ear pink bigger-- 17:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Question...
How can you tell if a character image has been reserved?

<font color="Green" font face="Papyrus" "background:gray; border:3px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Zor <font color="blue" font face="Papyrus" "background:black; border:1px dashed -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">th Highly   Explosive  02:30, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

You go to the reservation table. You click edit (optional, but easier for me) then press. Ctrl F. Type in your cat's name and if something appears, someone already reserved it. 02:38, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

What reservation table...?

(thinks) On the bottom of Project Usetboxes there were helpful links...ah.

<font color="Green" font face="Papyrus" "background:gray; border:3px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Zor <font color="blue" font face="Papyrus" "background:black; border:1px dashed -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">th Highly   Explosive  01:19, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

If you look on the main Project page, scroll down until you find a chart with a list of users, and character images that they have reserved. 08:49, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Can this be archived now Zorth? 10:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ok question
Hi and i want a charart to do but what cats are up? can someone tell me on my Talk page? Maplepool 13:15, August 17, 2010 (UTC)Maplepool

If you put it here we'll reply here. If you want a list of cats currently needed, you can look at this page. 13:18, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can this be archived now Maplepool? 10:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Any Guidelines?
I've practiced a few times on the blanks and I think I'm ready to make a approval charart. I've been hearing the word"Limit" alot and I was wondering what it meant. Also, are there any guidelines or tips I could use? 17:10, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

There can only be 35 images up for approval at one time on the talk page. If you have an image, you're going to have to wait until there is less than 35.

Make sure that before claiming an image, check to see if another user already has it reserved, or if the page already has an image. 17:15, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Read these thoroughly: Warriors Wiki:Charart/Guidelines. They are the actual guidelines and I was pretty thorough when I wrote them. It should say how to use the talk page and everything. -- 01:00, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Another question:How do you "reserve something, and what does it do and where do I do that? 02:22, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

You reserve your image on the main page. It tells people that is the image you are currently doing, so they cannot do it. You have 2 weeks to finish and put up your image. 03:19, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Could I reserve the image right now? I'm done with it but I can't put it up for approval until there's less then 35. 18:40, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. 23:13, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Apprentice
Hi, i was wondering if i could become an apprentice? also, even though we dont meet her as a kit, would it be possible for me to try and do a charart fo Sandstorm(Girl Power!) as a kit? if not it doesnt matter, but if i can, could i do it for a few more cats? thatnks!<font color="lime" style="background:Black">☻Sunstar27☻ Follow your Destiny! 09:26, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

A lead will add you in as soon as possible. 12:12, August 19, 2010 (UTC)I'm

I'm not sure about the Sandstorm part, but you will certainly be added. 14:37, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you in. You can reserve an image on this page and some apprentice tutorials can be found here. Sorry you won't be able to do Sandstorm as a kit because she was never seen as a kit.-- 23:01, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I thought there was a discussion about that a while back, when we were running out of art to do. As I remember, one of the examples used were characters not seen as kits. The reasoning said that all cats must have been kits at one time.

As far as my memory holds that was never an agreement... 10:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I suggested it but it was pretty much ignored. It was never agreed apon. 12:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Join
can i plzz join? Sunny frost  12:08, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

A lead will add you in as soon as possible. 12:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

kewl thx :) Sunny  frost  12:18, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you in. You can reserve an image on this page and some apprentice tutorials can be found here.-- 23:00, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Pikepaw?
What happened to my pikepaw pic? 213.187.38.14 16:18, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It was declined because you didn't work on it. 16:29, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Can I join as an apprentice?
Hi! I really love making chararts, and I heard about the PCA and all...can/may I join as an apprentice? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, I'm kind of still a newbie. ^.^; ~Blossomsky~ 21:21, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. A lead will add you soon. Thanks for your interest in joining! 22:29, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you as an apprentice. Welcome to the project! You can reserve an image on this page and some apprentice tutorials can be found here. You should read the guidelines first.-- 17:49, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Join?
May I please join as an apprentice? PCA seems interesting to me. Hawkfoot 22:09, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sure! A lead will add you soon. Thanks for your interest. ^^ 22:29, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I added you in; welcome to the project. You can reserve an image on this page and some apprentice tutorials can be found here to help you out. Also, please read through the guidelines =) 10:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Join
I'm very new to this Wiki and I'm really good at art would love to help so can I join Dusksong 17:43, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you as an apprentice. Welcome to the project! You can reserve an image on this page and some apprentice tutorials can be found here. You should take a look at the guidelines first.-- 17:48, August 21, 2010 (UTC)