Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

Character talks
Okay, I think you all know users have been commenting on characters talks about things like they should be killed and to take the cats out of the series, etc etc. I have honestly had enough of this. First of all, it's clutter to the talk, and two, it's dead annoying. Most of my edits on characters talk pages have been the same, take this to the forums. The characters talk page is for helping the characters article, not debating whether the cat is good or not.

So I thought, why not have a notice above the grades, consisting of links to the forums where the "discussion" should go. It would mean less clutter for the actual page and no more wasting time saying the above. So many talks have this sort of thing on, and it would help. Anyone?    Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  12:29 Mon Oct 28

That is a brilliant idea. It would save a lot of time. I've seen many things like that stuff recently, and I'm not saying any names, but some people carry on when told to take it to the forums. A notice on the talk would be very helpful. 12:34, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

May we please have some more opinions please? It's been five days since the first (and last) comment, and I really wanna see if this is okay with more senior members of the project.    Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  10:54 Sat Nov 2

I like this idea, instead of linking to the forums, we could just link to the wiki page on the forum and they can see the link from there. Though this won't solve it all, people will still use the talk pages some, I think this could help. x3 13:29, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well, editing a talk page to say only "take it to the forums" on a discussion that's months and months old and hasn't been touched in so long is just a waste of an edit and really shouldn't be done. Check the timestamps and history before you tell someone to go to the forums, since there's a good chance they're not around anymore. That being said, this is actually a really good idea. Perhaps turn it into a template like this and add it to the top of each page, like we would for the grading templates?

I like that. Maybe "pretty it up" in an official looking blue wiki box or something and center it below the grades? We could even do it o. Every talk page if we change the wording a bit? 17:35 Sat Nov 2 2013

I gave it the blue wiki coloring that the grading templates have, but I'm not good with phrasing things while still sounding official. So maybe someone could give me a better way to phrase it?

Oh no that phrasing sounds good. The main thing was the "respective character" part haha. That would be good. It's a lot of talk pages to edit though. 19:05 Sat Nov 2 2013

If we divide it throughout the project, we should be fine. I love the table, Cloudy.    Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  19:46 Sat Nov 2


 * Question: Is this just for character talk pages or does it pertain to the entire wiki?


 * I'm sure there wouldn't be any objections from the other projects, but that being said, if this does pertain to the entire wiki then the mention of PCA would need to be eliminated. I do highly suggest this be implemented throughout the wiki for conformity and because other types of pages can have the same issues.


 * The template should also be a different color than the grading templates. Reason being is because if we want this template to be successful, it has to catch the eye. A light green would be appealing so it doesn't contrast directly contrast the blue, but it's still noticeable. 01:53, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

I see no problem with PCA being in there on all of them. While it may not happen often it does come up in other articles, so we might as well put PCA in there too. 4:05 Sun Nov 3 2013


 * Yet on that argument, you could have a basis as to mention that citations should not come from anywhere on this wiki or Wikipedia, the official site for Warriors, specifically the family tree, is inherently wrong, Dovewing's eye color is going to be first mention/most common mention, and other comments that occur.


 * Not to mention that if you break it down, the character pages account for roughly over fifty percent of the content pages we have, yet there's only a little less than a third that actually has one or more chararts. If there was a majority for character pages having chararts, then sure, art critiques could have a mention. However, since the other fifty percent of content pages, don't have art pertaining to PCA then why have PCA mentioned if it's not a majority.  15:44, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I stuck the PCA thing on it because there are a lot of people, especially newbies, that don't realize art comments don't go on talk pages. And at first, I thought this was originally going to go just on character pages, hence why I added it. If you want, I could make a different version for the book/world/reality pages, and see how that goes? Like, it would really only be deleting the part about PCA (which I do think should be mentioned on character articles), but it could easily work.

The argument as to art comments is still not convincing me, but I don't think that it'd be very worthwhile to distinguish character pages and the other project pages. 22:10, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that we need the PCA thing on it, either tbh. c: 22:13, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Could be useful though, as many character images are often brought up on talk pages, and, like you said, they should be uniform and we shouldn't distinguish the character pages. Since we're going for uniformity and a common issue with talk pages is people bringing up things that should be brought to PCA I don't see why we can't just generalize all talk pages and take the stance that any and all pages could be commented on about character images. 22:22 Thu Nov 7 2013

Vote Time Extension Notifications
I'm not sure whether we've had to do this yet (as I've been committed to other activities), but if you notice that a lead has extended the voting time for nominations, please set up a notification such as this:

Make sure to include the angle brackets, dashes, and the exclamation mark at the beginning so it comes out to being a note.

This is mainly for recording purposes so going back, people can check why it was necessary for a vote to be open for, let's say, a month. Anyone can put the notice there if it's warranted and the reasoning can be different. Please note that this is not giving anyone permission to actually extend the voting time as that action is reserved to leads. Thank you. =) 22:27, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Alder - Silver Nomination
Comments? I'll try find a few quotes later. 19:41, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Why did you even nominated it if it wasn't done? Next time find the quotes before you nominate it. Please. The point of a silver article is that it's finished and quality, and should be done for the most part except for what people find needing fixing that you didn't. That's like posting an image for PCA that doesn't even have shading or coloring. e.e 0:56 Thu Nov 7 2013

Actually, I don't think there's really any quotes that suit Alder - she doesn't speak or do much for the most part, unless someone disagrees, but it's up to Sorrel ouo 01:02, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I disagree, Beebs. There are a couple quotes that would suit this little she-cat just fine. She also needs her family section added in and cited, her allegiances cited, and I believe it could be expanded juuuuust a smidge.

Done. And I didn't add any quotes in advance because I couldn't for the life of me find any that would fit her personality. I've only found one. 19:54, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Could you possibly change the quote or make it a Dialogue a-b quote? I don't really get it how it is now, it doesn't really show her personality. 13:12, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Done 18:33, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

​Dew ~ Silver Nomination
I'm finally nominating something... comments? 21:33, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

This is honestly probably impossible, but at least attempt it please? The article is nearly word-for-word with Thorn, of perhaps put a little more voice into it. Or rearrange the phrasing. Also, try and use less pronouns. 19:06, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

I tried to do that c: 21:21, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Quotes? 13:13, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Still working? 13:03, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't think there's any good quotes for Dew, since he's only mentioned, but Tawn should decide ouo 21:23, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Shine ~ Silver Nomination
Beebs said I could nominate for her so... comments? 02:19, 11/7/2013

This is honestly probably impossible, but at least attempt it please? The article is recounting the same events as the others that were involved, yet could you make the aspect perhaps change? 19:12, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Could you also change things around (like perhaps some wording or phrasing) so it doesn't look as similar to Flutter's and Dart's articles?

Perhaps add a quote of the event where she was shown taken or so?

Still working? 13:14, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry, I forgot I had this up, and then I couldn't find my book for a bit. I tired to re-word it some, but there wasn't all too much I could do. I don't think there's any quote that really fits her. 03:25, 11/27/2013

Dart ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? 19:38, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

This is honestly probably impossible, but at least attempt it please? The article is recounting the same events as the others that were involved, yet could you make the aspect perhaps change? 19:12, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Could you also change things around (like perhaps some wording or phrasing) so it doesn't look as similar to Flutter's and Shine's articles?

How's this now? 03:25, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Can you clarify what's really happening in the last sentence, it's kinda confusing. 13:15, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Done and dusted 18:13, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Appledusk - Silver Nomination
I'm pretty sure he isn't mentioned anymore, though if he is please tell me, as I used the browse inside. Comments? c:  20:52, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

The style is confusing because of the amount of pronouns used, so put in some names perhaps so the antecedent the pronoun is referring to isn't complicated. 19:09, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright, so Cloudy brought this up to me, but Appledusk is Shellheart's Grandfather, and that article has already been granted silver, yet more information has been needed. So we can either have this page be silver and remove the silver status on the now redirect page or this nomination is invalid. So which do we want to do? 19:16, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

I think it'd be alright if we keep this page (and have it be silver later on), and remove silver status on the other page.

I agree with Stoner - he has a name now, along with more information o3o 17:34, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Nettle ~ Silver Nomination
I really like this cat and I dunno why. Anyways, I added the history and a main quote. I used the iBook version of the book, so I'm not sure if it's the same page number as it would be in the paperback, so is that okay?

He speaks some, maybe you can find another quote for him from the parts he does speak in? 23:07, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Still working? 13:02, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Birch ~ Silver Nomination
I can't find any quotes that show his personality at all. Comments? 16:51, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Fircone ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? 21:45, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Sparrow Fur ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? 21:01, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Joining
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