Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. G B 57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. G B 57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. G B 57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. G B 57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've improved her. How is she? G B 57 21:56, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Great! I don't see anything wrong :D. You did a pretty nice job. Sparrowsong 18:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be less circular and the shading needs to be darkened. --Hallow's Eve 09 21:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Needs it's shading thickened immensely and blended. Ear pink could be toned down, but it mostly needs blurred some. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better, but go back, it looks like you blurred the line art or added black marks.Minnowclaw 12:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be more... intense Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the lineart. But Sandy, i don't get what you mean by "intense" <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Sandy, but I think she meant that it needs to be darker. (Sandy corect me if I'm wrong.)Minnowclaw 14:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well yes, that is kind of what I mean. It needs to be not just darker but a little thicker and blur it really well so it actually looks like shadows on his pelt. Some good examples of how the shading needs to look are Shadepelt and Rushtail's image which is currently up for approval. (I can't think of any more off the top of my head, sorry) It's not exactly just darker; it needs to look like a part of the pelt. I really hope that made some sense. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Done. I tried to fix it... <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 13:30, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

There should be more shading on the legs, and you might want to add a tiny highlight to the top of the herbs. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:24, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks


I got bored and made these. I figured that there were reserves on most blanks, so I'm just offering these up to use for whatever. If there's an extra blank needed for something, and whatnot. I'd like to see what everyone thinks they should be, because I've got no idea. Suggestions on editing welcome. ;3 --Sandiwolf 02:46, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

do we have To-Be blanks? or something? they should have whiskers :) and maybe a line going in from the nick? I'm newsh so... Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 04:48, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

And I think the eye is a bit big, maybe the cat is to big as well? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:27, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think that the only blanks that aren't reserved by anyone are softpaw blanks. Ice throat  21  16:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Add some fur to the cat, or else it looks flat. -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda-Love 16:40, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think Minnowclaw has the soft-paw blanks reserved. Maybe they could be kit-mothers?

Oh and yes they need whiskers. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 21:14, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I forgot that Minnowclaw had the softpaw's reserved. But these look too small to be kit-mothers. They look more like young cats. I don't think there are any other blanks that aren'y reserved besides the kit-mothers, though... Ice throat  21  22:29, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I can add whiskers to them. If there's nothing you can do with them now, you could use them for something later. More cats might show up in the future series.--Sandiwolf 19:42, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Sandiwolf, this can't just be Use for whatever blanks. You need to chose something or take them down. What about sharp claws?Minnowclaw 22:59, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Or cave-guards, unless someone else reserved them already? I could check if someone reserved the sharpclaw blanks right now. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:31, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Shoot, sorry. There is already something up for that.Minnowclaw 22:49, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

I saw no rules against it, Minnowclaw. Correct me if I am wrong. But, I can take them down if there is no use for them. --Sandiwolf 17:08, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

No, your not wrong. There is no rule agianst it in my mind, but think about it, if it gets approved and we don't have anything for them, what do we do?Minnowclaw 12:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Echo has the sharpclaws up, and Ice said they're too small to be kit-mothers, and the only thing left is cave-guards, which I'm not sure someone had reserved. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 17:44, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Well there is a point in time I'm sure that we all will be looking for a time to maybe to improve some of our blanks. Maybe you can start looking ahead in that...-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:00, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

I withdrew my sharpclaws... these could be sharpclaws, if you want. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 13:34, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

On the shorthaired versions, the lineart behind the ear doesn't connect. Its too straight. These would look good as sharpclaws, though.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;cyan; background:red; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;">♥Shadowedheart♥ 19:49, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

They look like they've been lifted up from the front, if you know what I mean... maybe make the front legs longer, so that they touch the ground. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:26, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

They look very dog-like. Try making them a bit more delicate: smaller paws, less pointy muzzle and you need to sort the tails so they look more feline too. If these are going to be sharpclaws you need to replace 'Use-for-whatever blanks' with 'sharpclaw blanks' Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:08, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerpaw (SC) (A)- For Approval
Not much to say, I made him look like his kit version the best I could.  HA WK FI RE98  16:05, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Nice job! The ear pink's too bright for a brown cat though, and it needs blurred more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:18, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerstar doesn't have a kit version.... his stripes look much different than what you have here. -- Bramble -san  18:31, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Unless you meant this to be Tigerpaw (SC) in which case the stripes do look similar, but Bramble's right: Tigerstar's images have classic markings. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:52, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Dangit! *bangs head on computer* I can't do classic tabby. I might have to withdraw this.  HA WK FI RE98  19:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! Maybe I can change him to Tigerpaw (SC)! That would work, for Tigerpaw doesn't have a apprentice version.  HA WK FI RE98  19:08, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, Hawkey, it should be fine as Tigerpaw. But the ear pink still needs to be darker. Ice throat  21  19:44, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! I saw where Sparrowsong has Tigerpaw (A) (SC) reserved. Ice throat  21  19:54, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, *walks outside and screams* Okay, I will talk to Sparrowsong.  HA WK FI RE98  20:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

She said I can use it. :)  HA WK FI RE98  22:12, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. For the actual image, the ear pink needs darkened to a reddish color. There are plenty of approved dark-brown cats that are great examples. Ice throat  21  01:53, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Blur tabby stripes.Minnowclaw 23:21, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are fine. I've blended them the best I can, their just dark is all. Reuploaded.  HA WK FI RE98  00:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder and more... what's the word... I can't think so I'll say apart of the part. Sorry that I can't think of something better.Minnowclaw 12:07, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

That makes no sense whatsoever. Anyway, Hawky, if you make the ear pink just a bit more red, I'd be glad to approve this. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:30, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:01, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Aww, he's so cute! Just darken the shading a tad and he should be perfect. Sparrowsong 21:50, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

And blur ear pink. -- Bramble -san  22:17, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Whiteclaw (W) - For Approval
this is Whiteclaw. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:29, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

She is way too dark.Minnowclaw 14:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok hehe he is way to dark XD so make he light. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 14:56, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

ok hope this is ok. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:13, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

The eye needs fixed... Ice throat  21  21:44, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to specify on how to fix the eye, as well as mention a couple of other things, so, I'll say them now. The ear pink needs to be more triangular along with the shape of the ear, blurred some more, and also needs to be more of a reddish color rather than a pink color. And for the eye, go to for a diagram of how to fix the eye. Also, the transition between black and white with the paw needs blurred some more, and add some shading on the hind leg. And maybe run the dodge tool over the tail a couple of times, so it's not too much darker than the color of about the middle of the shading. (Sorry, I know it's a lot, and if I didn't explain enough please say so!) Ice  throat  21  23:58, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK....done. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:11, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reddish, not purplish. Go to the red section, not up by where the purple and hot pink section is. Also make it a little fuller and less slanted. -- Bramble -san  02:22, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

well it's red I don't like red ear...did I miss things? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:40, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

The lineart at the bottom of the right forepaw looks thin compared to the rest of the charart. Can you thicken it? I think you erased some of it while you were coloring it in. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 21:31, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

There needs to be a lot more shading; I can barely see any. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:27, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

I can see some shading, but it's been blended in a lot. Add some more where it's needed, and where you already have shading, sharpen it a little, make it stand out a teeny bit more. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 21:58, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

ok is this better? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:58, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

The shading looks fine to me. You need to blur the ear pink and line where the white forepaw joins the black fur though. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:02, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

can't say this is better but..done. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:40, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Vinestar- For Approval
Poor Honeyfur. All she can draw are leader Charcats. =P Oh, well. What do you think of him? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Very nice, Honeyfur! :) Maybe thicken and darken the shading a bit. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 01:05, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

And blur shading. -- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:14, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:40, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, very good Honey!-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:56, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedleaf (Ki) ~ For Approval


This is the best image I have EVER, EVER, EVER, EEVEERRR done!!! What do you guys think of Spottedkit? (Sorry about my abcenses. And Yes, they are school related.) -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:22, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

She's absolutely gorgeous. Only thing I see, is that the ear pink needs to be more inside the ear. It looks like it's on her forehead. :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 21:43, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! And the ear pink looks like the ginger on the forehead... I'll fix it. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 22:46, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There's a gray patch above her ears. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:30, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed and Reuploaded. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:20, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Not meaning to be a downer, but shouldn't she look more like her medicine cat version? -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:23, October 19, 2009 (UTC)


 * shrugs* Dunno how to make her look more like her medicine cat version. I think she'll be fine; depends on what Bramble thinks. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:05, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Oh, wow this is great! It looks so cool! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 16:51, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

I really like this version as it is, but as the medicine cat version was approved first, we should probably change it to match that version. Unless you ask Shimmersong if you can edit her medicine cat image slightly. If you just want to change this, then make the brown patches paler, with some dark gray fur around the right eye. -- Bramble -san  01:59, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Stealthfire. :) As for the changes; I'll see what I can do... -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:30, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to decline for a little bit till I get to those changes. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:46, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Undeclined and REUPLOADED. That better? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:33, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Redtail (Kit) - For Approval
Let's try this again I worked on the muzzle but not sure on what exactly more that I can do to it unless I make it bigger. Anymore suggestions and this time I will work hard to not let him go to waste like last time.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 03:53, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I honestly don't see anything wrong. :) Great job! -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 13:33, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I can't see any shading on the tail, but that might just be me. Other than that, great job, Shim! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:08, October 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * I made the tail darker to show that its behind him. Do you guys think I should at least add a light spot or keep him how he is?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:03, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about anyone else, but I never imagined him as being tortie and white. Do we have a book reference that he had any white fur? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:55, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it kind of late to challenge that now after I've already made his approved deputy image? Not to be sounding edgy, it just bugs me how someone likes to point something out after one of the images before has already been done. Then the two just won't match and that wouldn't make any sense.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 01:36, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

I can't agree with Sandy becuase I picture him brown. Shim-Shim I'm not telling you to make him brown. I think that he's fine the way he is.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:13, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh duh. Just ignore me, seriously. That's what comes when I try and make comments when I should be doing something else: I don't bother to check up on my facts first. Really truly sorry Shim, for some reason it slipped my mind that we already have a deputy version. The two match perfectly so ignore me. =/ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:30, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

He looks good to me, though of course I could be missing something obvious xD. I guess that's why we wait 24 hours. Comments before approval?-- Darkhallows 07:45, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Graypool (Elder) - For Approval
My first elder! Just so you know, the description said she had patchy fur so I guessed that meant she had a couple of bald spots here and there. That's what those pink thingies are. Constructments? (P.S., Check out my new siggie :D) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:39, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Good job. I'm not gonna say beautiful, because Graypool isn't exactly a pretty cat, but excellent job! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:44, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Very good! But on the patches, take out the lineart on the bottem of them and then blur the pink and gray together, and see how that looks. It might make it look more natural. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:21, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks, GB ^^! Mosswhisker, I did what you said, but I didn't take out all the lineart on the bottem of the patches because they looked, well, weird when I did. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 19:31, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you could make like a weird light pink, but not to light like those pinkish grays instead? The bright pink looks kind of unnatural in my oppinion.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:51, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it, but it won't reupload the new image, only the current one. I think my computer has a mental disorder *has a computer that frequently does not work properly* --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 00:19, October 19, 2009 (UTC

Reuploaded - It works now :D. Stupid computer, work for meh! Anyway, I lightened the... skin pink, lol. Comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 00:23, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Any comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 21:56, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Not from me. :) Nice job! -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 21:57, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:16, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Crowfeather (App) - For Approval
Hereeeeeeeeeeeeee's Crowfeather as that annoying little apprentice when we first met him. Personally I loved his snobbish personality ^_^ and spunk. You know he was determined to do anything.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:09, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I don't see anything wrong. Great job! :) -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 20:47, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Same here, and I completely agree with you about Crowpaw! He's awesome! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 16:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Shimmerpool! Darken the ear pink to a more reddish color, blur the highlights some more, and it should be ready! And I agree with you and Stealthfire, Crowpaw's awesome! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:01, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks gray. Try making it more pink.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:09, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Ashfoot (De) - For Approval


Okay, so I'm starting at the letter A and working my way down I think ^_^ It's my new plan of action. Ashfoot was first so here she is i her most current form. =) Constructments please? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:07, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

She's fabulous! :D Maybe just blur the shading a tad. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 20:46, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Good. But the highlights could be blurred more. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:57, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. There are no highlights Hawkey, but I blended the shading the best I could. I don't think the blur tool will work any more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs blurred a tad bit more, because there's too hard of a line. Have you tried using a lower percent (somewhere below 50) highlight (on midtones/highlights) on the edge of the shading to make it a color in between the shading and the pelt, and then blurring it? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:06, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

There will always be some sort of line no matter how much bluring you use. Also, darken the shading more.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:08, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, well I've taken your advice Icethroat and given it a go. The image on the right is the new one. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:48, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

It looks a bit...rough. Try adding white highlights slightly and blur, sometimes that may be all it takes. ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 20:21, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

This reminds me why I avoid grey cats... Anyway, I reuploaded over the original file name now. Better? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:04, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The lineart looks a little bit blurred on the curve of the haunch and the shoulder. :) I don't see anything else, though. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 21:20, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I reapplied the lineart. Love Gimp xx Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:41, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong now. :) Comments before approval? (Yay, I've always wanted to say that lol) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 18:13, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Congrats Echo =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:23, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Tadpole (Ki) - for approval
= Well, here it is. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:49, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

So cute! Just darken the shading a little, and maybe make the nose a bit duller; right now it's bright pink. -- ♫ Ec ho mi st <font color="Teal">Talk/<font color="Indigo">Contribs 22:37, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink our left is good, but make the right one the same color.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:05, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Darkened Shading, fixed ear pink. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 19:35, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Troutclaw - for approval
*Sighs* I haven't grasped the consept of clasic tabbys yet. Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:38, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

This looks fabulous, Minnow! :D Only thing is that his eyes look like they're white... :-/ -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk/<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:44, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby markings look too much like Jaypaw's-- ♥Sha dow edh eart♥  23:58, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Echomist: Silly me, the eyes are white. But it's 6:30am for me, so i'll do it after school. Shadowheart: That's because I did Jaypaw, so I used the same style, not the smae exact markings.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 10:38, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps change the file name so it adheres to the actual image? -- Bramble -san  22:17, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I'm soooo sorry about not getting to this! I have had so many things to do and am so stressed. I will get to this very soon.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:50, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I changed the eye color, and fixed the name. I know it says the, but it stands for Troutclaw elder in my own way.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:54, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Cora (R) - For approval
Here she is? Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 01:57, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

This is very nice, Hawkfire! Although, you could thicken and darken the shading; I can barely see it. Also, the ear pink is much too bright for a black cat and could be blurred some more. It looks great, otherwise! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 19:49, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For approval


(M) - Not much to say about these. First blank I've made where you can see both sides of the face and such, and probably the last blank I'll do for a long time. Will make a colored version over the weekend. (Maybe.) Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute. But their bellies and legs look.. weird. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

A few things though...What i think could be improved  How I would do it..... Feel free to remove this or disregard it if i'm wrong, but its lineart looks a bit odd only in this area. Summary of it: The arm has odd, unnecicary lines, the showing hind leg goes a bit up, or thick, the stomach area is oddly shaped, and the eye is a bit odd... But its fabulous in the rest.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 00:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks a little disproportionate--AutumnSky 02:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made a example and changed up the lineart a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Molepelt - Up for Approval again
Well, I'm sorry everybody. I was in hospital, I was sick, and discharged just yesterday. So, here is Molepelt again.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:49, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

There's a couple of pixels on the face that should be dark-gray like the fur instead of green, and shading is too dark. It needs to have different colors along the way from the outside to the inside of the cat. Black, really dark gray, dark gray, fur color, and then blend, or something along those lines. Right now the shading is really messy, and too dark on the outside of the shading. Also, I hope you're feeling better now. We're glad to have you back. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:41, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Hussar - For approval
Place the ear pink in the center of the ear, so it's not touching the side, and blur it, taking care not to hit the lineart. The shading is much too thick; blur its transition. Also add shading on the legs; blur as well. Put a white highlight in the eye; you can look at Moss's example image: to see how to do the eyes. Other than that, not bad for your first go. -- Bramble -san  22:23, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: --Evanphoto 00:53, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Gorsestar (L) - For Approval
Okay, my first charart. Sorry if i'm doing something wrong. X3 And perhaps I shouldn't have started with a Tabby... :/ Okay, I'm ready for the critique! (And yes, sorry but I couldn't figure out how to get the background transparent. XP) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 00:48, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * WOW I like this XD the left ear pink is on the line art a bit. and the left leg at the top the dark bit is going out of the line art an bit. and with the head you see the line like a bowl (sort of) try and put a bit of shading under it. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:04, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. And is it just me, or does my attempt at shading resemble a collar? XD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:30, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

lol yeah maybe a bit try looking at Vinestar. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:33, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:40, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

nice one more thing on the new bit on the left it's gone over the line art Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:42, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:55, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is impressive for your first Charart, Shigura! Just a few things - first of all, the ear pink is a little too circular (it should be more triangular-shaped, and kept inside the ear lineart). The nose should be colored in pink (for a grey cat, it should be a dull grayish-pink color). The tabby markings should be thinner (maybe make them with a size 3 brush), there should be a lot more of them, and they should be blurred into the pelt just a bit. Lastly, darken the shading a bit, especially on the head to make it look more 3-dimensional. As for the transparent background, I did it for you (I hope you don't mind). -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:34, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I couldn't get the thick stripes off Gorsestar without making him look dumb, so I started again with the Gorsestar picture I had with just the shading. I tried doing stripes like the one on the Birchstar picture. Are they any good? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 20:22, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I forgot to do the nose. Silly me. XD Any other critique besides the fact the nose is white? XDD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 20:26, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry for triple-posting, but I re-uploaded, this time with the nose colored in. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 22:54, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

No, good job Shigura!-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Sol - For Approval
Sol-luff. -hugs-

Like my new siggie? xD-- Darkhallows 19:24, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

This is beautiful, Darkhallows! Maybe you could darken the ginger spots just a tad, but there's nothing else wrong, otherwise! And I love the new siggie :D! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 19:28, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wow. Just... wow. I don't see anything wrong, except for what Hawktalon mentioned. How do you make the patches look all... furry? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 19:45, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Darkened the ginger, also I added more of a furry effect, especially on the patch in the middle. As for how to do that, all it takes is the smudge tool :D.-- Darkhallows 07:26, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong. You are really good Darky! (is it okay if I call you darky?)-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:52, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Gorseclaw (TC) - for approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments/criticism? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 20:51, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong. Looks perfect to me. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:06, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Looks great! But, unfortunately, Logfur has already been reserved by Nightflight. Sorry :( --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 22:11, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Right you are, Hawktalon. He is now Gorseclaw. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 00:17, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I can see nothing wrong. Great job, Echomist! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:01, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval?-- Darkhallows 07:38, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Mossheart - for approval
Mossheart, my first tortie. *twists fingers together nervously* I don't think that she came out that well... but I guess that's for other people to decide. Comments? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 20:53, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Who are you trying to kid Echo? She came out fine, well more than fine actually. I think you need to darken the shading a little, but I can see no other problems. =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:05, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

~Reuploaded.~ Thanks, Sandy =) Darkened shading. Anything else? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 00:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Now that you fixed the shading, I see nothing wrong. Beautiful, Echomist! Great for your first tortie! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:17, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval?-- Darkhallows 07:39, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Owleyes (Deputy) - For Approval
Well, I tried my hand out at a cat with highlights (Thanks to Darkhallow's amazing tutorial on her user page). =D But the image doesn't quite look right. Any suggestions? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:36, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

It's fine, Honeyfur, the only thing is that the highlight behind the frontleg should extend to the highlight in front of the front leg... I dunno if that makes sense xD. (and thank you, by the way)-- Darkhallows 14:13, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Could you maybe draw a diagram for me? I think I can see what you're saying, but I just want to make sure. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 14:23, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing: .-- Darkhallows 07:31, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Darkhallows! Is this better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 12:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I know that I'm not Darkhollows, but I think he's perfect now.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 13:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Patchpelt (E) - For Approval
This has got to be my worst two-colored cat...Mousepaw was much better. I tried to fix the shading between the black and white, but it looks really messy...any sugestions? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:20, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

You may want to change the ear pink to less of a hot-pink. More like a natural pink.Other than that, it's beautiful!-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 14:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I love the dodge tool. It made making the ear pink lighter much easier. :) So, anything else? How's it look now? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 15:27, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Darken all the shading and make the ear pink a little more natural.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:50, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened and thickened the shading. I tried to blur the shading, but it doesn't look too well...suggestions? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:33, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Wing Shadow over Water- (for approval)
One of my last few images as an apprentice. How is it-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 23:24, October 23, 2009 (UTC)?

We never saw Wing as a to-be, only a kit-mother and a prey-hunter. Since we do have prey-hunter blanks, it'd be best to do Wing on the correct blank. The image is lovely, but it'd be better if you used the correct blank. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changed to a prey hunter, thanks, Icethroat!-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 13:27, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Great! The image looks fabulous! The only thing that immediately strikes me is that I can barely see the ear pink, so maybe darken it just a little bit, but not too much. Great job, Shadowedheart! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 13:43, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

ReReuploaded! Darkened ear color! Thanks again, Ice!-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey

Darken the shading more.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:57, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

ReReReuploaded Darkened shading!-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:19, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! I can see nothing wrong now. Great job, Shadowedheart! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:57, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Very good job! All I see is that the ear pink could be blurred just a tad more, and you need mud streaks (cause they're tribe cats). After you put in the mud streaks, just blur it into the pelt. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 21:45, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you have added mud streaks. I see nothing wrong. Good job!-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:49, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Looks great, Shadowedheart! Maybe add a mud streak on the tail, and it should be ready. Good job! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:15, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reedwhisker (W) for approval
Not much to say. comments? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:39, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

You may want to blur the shading alot, and lighten the black just barely.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 13:28, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, blend the shading, and also, his eyes are green. Not blue. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 13:45, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make the shading blured and bigger.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:55, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading and ear pink, but the reason why I didn't change the eye color is because his discribtion said blue and I don't remember reading that he had green. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:17, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is fine now, but you need to make the shading thicker.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:47, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Kit-Mother Blanks ~ For Approval


How do you like my suckish artwork? xD Gawd, I need a tablet... The example is better than the blanks: <BR> Comment/Suggestios? (Suggestions OTHER than leaving the drawing to experts? xD)-- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh..my..staclan..THIS IS SO CUTE! I love the way she's staring at you like "I'm not fat!" The only thing I could say is that the head looks, a bit small-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I'll make the head a little bit bigger. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:26, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Heads are bigger by a tad. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

it look a bit odd..what is she doing? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if Apprentices are allowed to critique, and I love the blanks, but there are a few spots that look a bit... out of place. XD The paw near the Kit-Mother's head looks a bit flat, and the tails could be a smidge wider, but that's all I see. (: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 21:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Everyone's aloud to critique. That's part of the learning experience, being able to say what's wrong with a picture. :) Mumble: I agree with Shigura, the paw looks flat, and the tail could be a small bit wider. And also, the tail on the shorthair could maybe brought to the left a little bit, so the bottom of the lineart on the tail is at the same curve as the bottom lineart of the tail on the longhair, giving a curve that makes it more natural. Otherwise, great job, Mumble! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but the muzzle is a little thick, that shouldn't be too hard, methinks. You put queen blanks up a while ago, right? You've really improved ^^.-- Darkhallows 07:34, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The neck looks fat.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darkhollows: Yes, I did. :) I think I tryed a freindly blanks war with melon! xD Thank you! ^-^<BR> Bramble: She's laying down while looking at you. :P Yeah, not very well-thought-out position...<BR> Everyone who offered suggestions: I'll do that. How would I make the paw look less flat? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the paw more curved, like she's trying to swat the air? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 18:14, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Icewing(W) For approval
The first white cat I've had up for approval...Anything to fix?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 15:33, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

This is wonderful, Bracken! But, she looks a bit bluish. Make the shading more of a pale gray. Great job, though! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Bracken! But I have to agree with Hawktalon, the image looks more blue than white. And also, the ear pink needs to be more in the middle of the ear rather than on the edge of the ear like it is now. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:04, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Aren't we supposed to wait until TFA comes out before we make the TFA characters? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 18:12, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sorry, Bracken. Otherwise, Foxleap wouldn't have had to be withdrawn. Sorry, Bracken. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:19, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

wait, before I withdraw this, are there any other white she-cat warriors?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:58, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

here's Icewing now--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 19:00, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink and bluish-color still need fixed. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:11, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Much better! There's some blurred lineart on one of the front legs, though. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Icecloud (A) - For Approval
Well, now that Bracken has his Icecloud warrior version up for approval, the warrior version looks much better than this apprentice version. :) But I really wanted to try a pure-white cat. So, how did I do for my first white cat? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:01, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

...now that I've made this image, I've realized that Bracken made Icecloud a longhair instead of a shorthair. Can someone change this to a longhair for me? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. I think I'll keep this as a shorthair, unless anyone has any problems with keeping this shorthair. So...comments and suggestions? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blur all the shading.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:45, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred all the shading. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:07, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

This looks really good. Maybe you should smudge the shading a little and then blur it to smooth out the line. Ashshadow 18:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I did what you said to, Ashshadow, but I'm not sure if it helped any or not... Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:15, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

It helped its just hard to get rid of a hard line on a white cat. I'm working on my next charart for when Daisy gets approved and the shading on the white taking a really long time to blur. Maybe try it a few more times. Ashshadow 19:40, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't want the entire picture to be silver from the shading, so instead what I did was highlight part of the shading, and then blurred. Does it look any better? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:57, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Much better. You're really good. Ashshadow 20:06, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

May i join?
I'm new on the wiki and was wondering if I could join the project Ashshadow 17:04, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Of course you can. I'll add you to the template now and assign you a mentor, who will be someone to help you get started and who you can bombard with any questions. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:51, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Ashshadow 17:57, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, You're added. Your mentor is actually me lol, so welcome to the project! ''Note: Bramble and I discussed the recent shortage of mentors and how it could be worked out and agreed that the limit should be changed from 2 apprentices per mentor to 3 to deal with the influx of new users and inactivity from some mentors as well as Dawn and Shimmer stepping down. Hence the reason I now have 3 apprentices. Hawkey will be made a warrior within the next week most likely as her Tigerpaw is almost approved so this will go back down to 2 again.'' Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:01, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I can't wait to get started. Ashshadow 18:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of mentors and apprentices, Shadowedheart is about ready to become a warrior, so I'll be able to take on another apprentice soon. Can I add her as a warrior to the template? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 18:11, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Pardon me for speaking so rudely, but am I going to get a mentor? :) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 19:10, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

If Shadowedheart becomes a warrior, I could be your mentor, maybe, Shigura. :) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 20:27, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Sorry, you must have slipped through the net. Echo is now your mentor. (If that's ok with you Echo) As for Shadowedheart - if you think she's ready then go ahead. As long as she fufils the requirements, I don't have a problem although I can't speak for anyone else of course. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:31, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Ohh, cool! I hope Echo is okay with it. :) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 22:29, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I'd be glad to be your mentor, Shigura. :) I'll add Shadowedheart to the template as a warrior. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:35, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't really think this is the place to bring it up but neither of my apprentices are active and wiki finally is working again (for now). -- Darkhallows 07:36, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Shady: You could mentor Phoenixpelt if you'd like. I had to assign them to Goldencloud but she hasn't bene seen in a while, so you could take over? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

My apprentice Eveningswift quit. Could I have another? Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 16:24, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Floss - For Approval
I don't know how to make the background transparent (I don't think you can make things transparent on Pixlr). Anyway, this is my first loner and patched cat. How does she look? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 20:56, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Nice! I don't see anything wrong. :) Also, I know how to make the image transparent; would you like me to do it right now? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 21:01, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, no prob! Thanks! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 21:08, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Here, now she's transparent. You're welcome :). -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 21:54, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful, Hawktalon! Add a small bit of shading on the back (where the spine is) and she should be ready. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:30, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Added shading to the back. Minnowclaw, I tried darkening the shading, but it looked, well, too dark when I did. So, I just kept the image as it is now. Should I darken the shading anyway? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:39, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The shading doesn't need darkened. You just need to use the burn tool once on the spine, and then blur to add some shading on the back. Then, it should be fine. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I see the shading on the back now. Sorry, I didn't see it before. :) You might want to darken the shading on the back, though, or make it a little thicker. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Darkened the back shading. Better now? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 21:40, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Ravenpaw - for approval
?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 13:22, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * The ear pink looks a tad too big.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:29, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Better?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 13:45, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

He should have a small white dash on his chest and green eyes. Also, thicken the shading, I can barely see it. It looks great, otherwise! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:42, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Daisy (Q) - For Approval
My first charart. Can someone change the background to transparent because I dont think it is. Ashshadow 13:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The picture is way to big. I can fix that for you if you want.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 13:50, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Minnow. I wasnt sure how to fix it. Ashshadow 13:56, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I am trying, but it just won't work sorry.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thats okay. I fixed it. Ashshadow 14:27, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, for the image. WOW! I can't see anything! Great job!-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:29, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I was pretty happy with this, but theres something about the eye that looks strange to me. Ashshadow 14:35, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Eyes always look odd.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:39, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Try looking at another queen's eyes for how to do the eyes. Otherwise, this is great for your first charart! Great job! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I looked at Feathersrorm's eyes. I think it looks better now. Thanks for all the nice comments =) Ashshadow 17:29, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Great! Thicken the shading on the belly and back a little and it should be ready. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Ashshadow 17:55, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but the shading you added needs blurred, so the line between the colors isn't as hard. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred the shading some more. Is there anything else? Ashshadow 19:28, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Add some shading on the top of the head in between the two ears. Not much, though, just a litle bit. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:42, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

There is shading. Should I darken it a little? Ashshadow 19:55, October 25, 2009 (UTC)