User talk:Paleclaw/Archive 3

Marshkit
Did Marshkit die? It's like he was never mention anymore after whe the hawk took him away though Brackenfur saves him. Do you know? AND HAPPY 2013!174.124.1.115 03:40, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Oi
oi get your butt on here dear c: http://thewarriorcatsclanroleplay.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Chat?useskin=wikia 03:46, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

StarClan blank help
Can you help me out doing Sootfur? I don't know how to do his shading ;_;. Bbun (talk) 19:07, January 2, 2013 (UTC)Bbun

Hazeltail (A)
Hi! Sorry to bother you, but I just had a question. I thought your reservation ran out on Hazeltail (A) so I went ahead and posted it on the Tweak page, but I just wanted to make sure, since Duck said you still had it reserved. I could take it down if you still want it. 18:50, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Spotted
No you can go ahead and do it. Thanks for offering, though. :3 18:43, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Edits
I'm sorry for keeping to enter chat when not supposed to. Usually I end up hitting the wrong link. I didn't realize i didn;t have qualifications because I don't check my edits. It seemed fine because I didn't get kicked last time. Anyway, I'm sorry for the trouble.

ʇuǝɹɟıǝɟɟıp﻿ ɯ,l   22:13, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Ermergod
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PALEH! <333 lurve ya, hun. 23:37, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
Happy Birthday, Paleh! Hope it was a good one!! 23:51, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

8D
Happy Bday, m'dear. <3 here is a picture for choo. Sowwy it sux.

http://www.iaza.com/work/130114C/iaza18475523970600.png

01:07, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Mai Waiiifuuu
ASDF happy birthday, love<3333333333333333333 04:48, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

lalala
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIIIIIRTHDAY DEAR PALEH, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU! Happy birthday~ =D 22:40, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Bluestar
Hey, I noticed that you uploaded Bluestar and marked it for deletion, because I had it reserved. Well, I'm un-reserving it, because you already have yours uploaded, and yours looks epic. =D 13:37, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sure! =D 21:04, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

A quick question
Hey Paleclaw! I saw your name when I tried to join chat, so I decided I'd contact you. I'm doing some copyediting here, and I'm wondering, well, what exactly is the standard tense for articles? For example, Beechfur (RC) uses present, past, as well as passive voice, so I'm rather confused.  Maple wing  19:45, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Paleh, I said sorry to cloud. I've been put up under alot of stress lately and I get mad easily. I didn't know how I got in chat but I clicked it and it let me in. and I'm sorry ok? My mom and dad are dead and My really mean aunt takes care of meh. But you people wouldnet understand. My life is horrible and i don't have anyone to talk to...:'( 04:40, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

What did blue do this time?Edme4ever232 (talk) 06:22, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re::
I wasn't surprised when I received the new message notification, and I've thought it over a lot in the last few minutes. I apologize for jumping to the conclusion about you that I did. I always thought you never liked me; I don't know if you remember that one time we had our fight about Mounty, many months back, but that was what had convinced me that you hated me. Either way, I shouldn't have cared, but I suppose my curiosity is stronger than that. I did not know you were trying to get along with me, because of the comments from the past such as "then you're delusional" and other made me believe you truly didn't like me. The incapability of taking a joke is a major flaw I have, but I intend to work better on that, along with my short temper. Honestly, I want to try to be your friend, but I don't think it might happen due to recent events. However, if you desire to put these events behind you (I'm not trying to sound snippy, by the way- it's the effect of typing long stuff at 1am x.x), I'd like for us to try and become friends. I assure you that I won't be talking about you behind your back anymore. -- Atomic Pumbaa! Let me define babysitting! 10:06, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Template:Book
Why not use TestInput on the Book template?

Dahling Dearheart
This is for you. Good day~ 07:06, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

It's Berry...Uh
I've tried countless times to try and reset my password, which I'd reset last night, and it won't work. I'm quite confused - any suggestions, Paleh? ^^;; berry who can't log in

I've tried three or four times. It's still not working, and if it's not gon' work this time, I'll contact Wikia about it. berry who can't log in

Re:Stoatfur
Hey, Paleh I'll apologize early forany glaring spelling/grammer mistakes; doing this without my hlasses on  I totaly get that Stoatfur is important to you and stuff happens (I got lucky with Russety). I won't ask why you couldn't get up in time since it's not really my businuess, but sure, you can have him. I gotta get ready for school so can you put the message on his mage and can you reserve Gorsepaw's StarClan for me if no one else has claimed it? Love, Scarly 13:16, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

PS oua Whoian too?

Mentor
Yes, I'd still like a mentor. Thank you so much for offering! 00:35, 02/3/2013

RE: Patterns
It's a little complicated, because as pattern words in cat-lingo both Dappled and Mottled mean exactly bupkis (which is why you've never seem them used to refer to tabbies before now, in which the erin's are digging for interesting ways to describe cats), and linguistically they mean essentially the same thing "marked with small spots or patches contrasting with the background" and "a surface having colored spots or blotches".

When it comes to trying to reconcile them with Cat Genetics, I generally read "Dappled" as "Spotted Tabby" (which I think comes from my lifelong history with horses) and "Mottled" as "Classic/Blotched/Swirled Tabby".

In the case of a tortie, I would read "Dappled" to be more of a smallish evenly mixed coat (something akin to a brindle, which I give a definition for later), and a Mottled to be... really exactly the same. The words Dappled and Mottled suffer here in that they're essentially synonyms.

For Brindle: In cats it means tortie that isn't in large patches. THIS is rather a nice visual example.

Tabby is a pattern, and Brindle is another word for Tortoiseshell (which is a color). So I would never take the word "brindled" to mean tabby. You can have "Dilute Brindle" (in which the black would become gray and the brown to a tan), explaining your definition and your hangup with the gray as possible. The word brindle originates in dogs, which work genetically different than cats. It's confusion that comes from taking a word meant for one species and applying it to another (you get the same issue with Dapple, except it comes from horses). As another note, theoretically you could get a Brindle cat /with/ a tabby pattern, but all of the layers of dilute would likely render both patterns and mess, and get something that looks more like a cat of variegated, indistinct pattern.

I hope this helps, and feel free to ask away on any other questions. 23:45, February 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Dappled and Mottled has no meaning intrinsically when it comes to cats. Based on what dappled and mottled mean in other contexts (horses and the parallel between mottled and blotched definition wise) they seem better matched to Spotted tabby and classic tabby to me. So they're opinions, but not unfounded ones rooted only in opinion.
 * If you plan to standardize the definitions, chances are there will be characters needing to be redone over this.
 * 00:40, February 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * Just as an FYI, if you're going to teach them as "correct" it'll have to be backed by the project (I suggest writing it up, and then proposing it's adaptation as a rule with a discussion, followed by a vote when everything's settled). That way if there's ever a "But that's not how I interpret that rule" you'll have the whole "It's an accepted official definition, and thus to alter it you'll have to make a proposal and get it voted in" thing to fallback on. IMO standardizing definitions is a good plan (to the point where my RP has been spending a good bit of time standardizing our color-words-to-genetics interpretations). Since it's a wiki, though :) You can't just make decisions the way I can for CoSC. You gotta prove consensus. 00:47, February 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * Just making sure ;) You know me. I like to say things just on the off chance someone needs to hear it. 00:59, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well... With white patterns they follow a basic set of rules. The color starts at the base of the ears and tail, and flows out from those points. The tail base typically coloring faster than the ear bases. The picture you linked might be a bit atypical, but it's well within rules (pigment production at the rear just outstripped the front and that led to some pigmentary strangeness on the thighs). The truly odd cats are those with colored legs and lacking the color at the tail and ears. In fact, I've never seen a photograph that deviated from the basic rule of "starts at the ears and tail". This is a representation of "typical". Though even atypical cats will fit within the basics, and just end up with half of it amped up or down.

Also, as a clarification on terminology: "Spotted" is generally used exclusively for the tabby pattern. What you you're asking about are "White markings", "white patterns", or "bicolor patterns". While I know this isn't useful for Warriors, it could potentially be useful for communicating about what you're referring to when talking to other artists. 13:42, February 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * The color starts from the base of the tail. You'll see 50% and less white cats with white tail tips, but hardly ever will you see a cat with large ammounts of color and a white tail tip (not impossible, just incredibly uncommon. 02:49, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Realized I forgot to answer part of the question. The gene for the white mittens is theoretical. It's undetermined yet if it's a sub-form of white spotting, a new gene or some sort of codominant thing. You'll find it in Snowshoes, mainly. It's entierly uncommon in everything else. Assuming it even exists. 02:51, February 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * This is why I inititally didn't specify where on the tail the color starts. It's... really more complicated. It's the issue with trying to simplfy something that's incredibly complex. The full-colored tail is the most common situation, and it stems from the fact that the bud of pigment cells starts at the base of the tail in-utero, at the time the tail is being formed. White tail tips are atypical in cats with less than about 40% color. And still rather uncommon in cats in the 41-60% color range. They're extremely rare in cats with larger amounts of color. I left white tail tips out of my image because I was showing "typical". Though in reality, 9B, 10A, and 10B on my chart are pretty uncommon. (part of the way the image is colored is a holdover of the Messybeast resource I redid to make it... I should probably go through and make some revisions one of these days, to keep the tail fully colored as 9A through the rest of the 9-10 range). 14:00, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Reflist
Hi! I fixed it; the problem was in R, and not in Reflist - a #switch was put on a new line. Kind regards, 17:52, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I just forgot about it. :D I fixed it now, by using the #tag option. Alternatively, if you don't wish to use #tag, you can write something like this: {{#if:{{{group}}}

Lilystem
Hey, could you send me the files for Lilystem's warrior image, please? I need to tweak it, that's why ouo 02:06, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Runningnose
Do you still have the files for Runningnose's MC image? I'm tweaking him; my email is bobbielee0702@blueyonder.co.uk 17:36, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Nvm, I changed my mind 19:08, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Smoke / Smoky
Hey, Paleh. ^^ Your comment on PCA's talk page confused me a bit, could you elaborate for me? Is it a bad thing we're doing the smoke = smoky thing, or is it a good thing? I can't tell one way or the other, since I've always thought "smoky gray" was a shade, not a pelt style. I'm trying to get things as clear as possible, because everyone went "smoky gray means they're smoke cats" all of the sudden and I was never sure where that came from.

Join?
Hi I put down a request to join project userbox today and saw that the last people to request have not been answered are you still exepting members Belllastar (talk) 19:01, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Yo- I was asleep (I work night shift, so my sleeping hours are odd as heck) and my chat decided to malfunction. What'd you need?

Chat had a full gourmet meal with those messages and other PMs I'd gotten. dA is WaywardCaster, and if that doesn't work, my tumblr is thevakarianeffect.

Olivenose
The file would be great ^^ could you send it to thefoxgirl15@yahoo.com? thanks 02:37, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Poppycloud file?
You mentioned you might be willing to send the file for Poppycloud's warrior image? If so, could you send it to jayfrostofblogclan@gmail.com? Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:35, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Hawkfrost
Hey Hawkfrost is up for tweak nomination. You've got first claim on the kit, warrior and deputy. Do you want them? 21:37, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Did I come across that you have to claim them? Sorry if I did. No you don't really need to. You're just the redone artists of them (and the other ones and OA's are inactive) and since you have rights first, I'm making sure you get it if you want it. Since you don't, don't worry about it. :) 23:45, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

Chararts?
Hey Paleh, I'm just a huge fan of your chararts, so may I ask if you take charart requests? It's okay if you don't as I believe many of us all have a busy life ;)

Re:
Alright, here it is - just do it whenever you've got spare time!

Rank: StarClan

Appearance: silvery-gray mottled tabby with light blue eyes

Fur Length: Long

Gender: Female

Please take your time there's no hurry^^

A thing or two
I know you probably might object to this, but is there any way that I could readd you on skype? I'd say talk on chat, but my internet's doing this thing where it doesn't load chat properly, so it just shows up... as like an empty box. I'm having a bit of a problem and I kinda wanted some advice from someone not involved in the situations and you're a hell of a lot more calmer than I am and I thought you might be able to give me a couple ideas as to what I should do...

Whitestar
Whitestar is being nominated for a tweak for flat shading. Do you want him? 02:27, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Re:
should be sent

I also sent you my file for Tigerstar's warrior. Fox said you had to match it, but I'm not sure if you blocked me on Skype, so I'm just telling you here to make sure. 02:51, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

Graystripe
I was at work, sorry. Anyways, given that Graystripe is called a solid in the allegiances of Into the Wild, I would think that it would overrule anything calling him a tabby.. I wouldn't shoot you since I know you mean no malice.. =P what kind of statement are you talking about?

Hello
Welcome back. its pretty neat seeing you active again. 05:20, 10/14/2017

Discord
Btw, the Warriors Wiki chat has now moved to Discord. Do you need the link?

Hop on chat, I'll link it there.

u hav retrnd!!!1!!
you dont know me, but... cool fact, you and like 4 others are the resons I joined the wiki! but when I learned you were inactive, i was realy sad ;~; but you have returned! and... well... I just wanted to say hi! Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 04:18, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Awards
01:16, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Minor Characters
Hey! I've been working on the minor characters page and want to make some changes to the template and Spooky has been really busy the poor guy, so told me to talk to you about it, is that okay? Are you able to edit the template?Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  23:08, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Alright well this is a really long list (it's waaaaaaay overdue for an update!) so please don't feel pressured to get everything done right away.

Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  23:28, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Paleh? Did you get my message?Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:27, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

That's alright! You did not respond so I was worried you didn't see my message or got scared off or something. :) Btw, I loooooooove your kit blank! It is so perfect and adorable and gonna look so awesome when we start making chararts with it!Stealth f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  05:13, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Kit
sorry if you are working on it, but you should get the kit blanks over the old ones! And I just relised you used they/them pronouns to! So I am more not alone! I use he/her pronouns,( I go by all pronouns) so that is cool! <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 02:12, February 8, 2019 (UTC)