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Bluestar (D) - For Approval
Had trouble with the eyes, I'll redo them in the next upload, be nice if I did something wrong. --Gardenglaze 02:11, June 26, 2016 (UTC)Gardenglaze

ear should be ripped. 02:30, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Can you please reupload under File:Bluestar.deputy.png? Your original file has two .png's, so I renamed it, but please upload under this file name. 03:00, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure velvetmoon has already got this reserved. 03:20, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

So, I should quit this and let velvetmoon take over? --Gardenglaze 04:18, June 26, 2016 (UTC)Gardenglaze

I apologise if this offends anyone. But I do have both Bluestar and Oakheart reserved. I will be posting the images soon. 15:05, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Upload thought I would just upload on this. 20:09, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Smoothe out the shading. 21:19, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe give it a little more depth towards the base of the tail? Some volume, so to speak? 22:49 Mon Jun 27

crop this to the lineart. 21:11, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink and make sure it consistently fills the area 04:13, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload Got it to look better with smudged shading though I'm not 100% sure I like it. 12:29, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a bit. 12:43, June 29, 2016 (UTC)

Can you expand the shading on the butt please?  18:42 Wed Jun 29 

Reupload butt shading has been expanded! :) 10:21, June 30, 2016 (UTC)

could you smooth out the head and tail shading a bit? 02:47 Fri Jul 1

Reupload 08:59, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a little more. 21:19, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload smooth as I'm gonna get it! 22:08, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

It still looks really hard edged compared to all her other images. Are you sure you can't smooth it more, or maybe even lighten it? 01:43, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload I thought shading was an artists choice. But I blurred it insted of smudged it so it matches. 05:54, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a lot more. Also, shading is artist's choice.

Reupload I smoothed it a lot more now I hate it but if smooth shading is what you want here you go! 09:45, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the image should be cropped... 16:16 Fri Jul 8

Um it is cropped. 17:41, July 8, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the light a lil on the near back foot? Also, it might just be me but I think the shading's leaking from the lineart a bit on her tail.  21:36 Sat Jul 9 

Shade more along the bottom edge of the cheek, if that makes sense? Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:28, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

It needs to be cropped to the lineart. There's too much extra space on <-- side of the image.

Reupload I can't crop it anymore or else the tail Will be gone. My program only allows for even cropping on both sides. I don't see why I have to crop it when the lineart artist can't? 09:32, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading and maybe expand it a little. 13:43, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload 14:41, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

Right now the shading is too hard edged, can you smooth it more? 20:55, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload  23:52, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a lot more. I'm not saying blur it, but look at the various other images that have smudged shading and see what they do.

Reupload 16:49, July 13, 2016 (UTC) I can't work out why I'm struggling so much! 16:49, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Did you accidentally hide the earpink layer under the base? I can't see the earpink... 17:41, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading; it looks very rough right now --  19:33, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading depth. Unless when you smooth it out you plan on making it more of a gradient. And perhaps lighten it a tiny bit. Not much, just a few ticks. The shading is so solid and that might be why it looks flat. 19:47 Wed Jul 13

Reupload Played around with the shading but I'm not going to lighten it unless someone else says. 21:44, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

It needs to be smoothed out more but I don't think it needs to be lightened. 00:59, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry but what do you mean by smooth it out? It's smudged shading and there is other images on this wiki with shading that needs smoothed out more than this. I can't smooth it out unless I make it blurred shading which I hate! Please can someone explain why it needs to be smoothed out and what that is meant to look like. 09:27, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

It's too hard-edged, clashes a fair bit with the rest of the image. As Sunjaw said, it should be more like a gradient. Look how it is on this, this, this, this, this, or this (David's are a good example because he's been doing it for ages). Many of these are smoother and have a gradient-like look. Your doesn't, and is hard-edged in places it shouldn't be. It does need to be smoothed out a lot- note how we're not saying to blur it. Nowhere were you ever told to do that. It's difficult to do smudged shading on a solid cat, so you'll need to find something on your own that works.

Reupload I give up! I just used blurred shading! I hate it but I guess that doesn't really matter. 13:24, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

Velvet, calm down. No one ever once told you that you needed to blur your shading, and you're making it sound like we're forcing you to do so, and you're overreacting and acting like we don't care. =/ You asked for examples and I gave you some, so there's no reason to act like we aren't listening to you. Smoothing it out can also be accomplished by just smudging it more. Say if you smudge something in an upwards direction; smudging it in a left to right motion can also smooth that out to make it less hard-edged. Using a size one brush to smudge will also help.

Hold up! I never said anything about being forced to use blurred shading. All I meant was it was the only way I could fix it. I have been smudging it more this whole time! It's not working for me so I just blurred it! I have funnily enough been doing everything you said and it just hasn't worked for me! I don't know if it's because I'm out of practice or what. But I'm not complaining I'm just done being told yo smooth it out more when I can't see what you mean. 18:41, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the shading slightly on the left-back leg?

Reupload 21:03, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

add some more shading to her back feet and lighten it some more. 22:24, July 18, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload 10:53, July 19, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a lot more. It should be, since you're blurring it, a smooth gradient-like thing. This is a bit too hard-edged and ends abruptly.

Reupload I'm not creating a gradient never have never will. All my other images have the same shading if it's blurred. 22:15, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the <--  back paw?

But Velvet, the shading is too hard-edged. I'm not saying change your shading- I think you're totally misunderstanding what I'm saying.... and considering Sunjaw said the same thing and you didn't get rude with her, I don't see the issue here. What works on one image does not always work on another. You're starting to become a little rude with this image; Your shading still needs to be blurred a lot more.

it's already a gradient Anyway and yes it does need to be softened a tad more. 19:17, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload I'm getting annoyed because you are telling me it's way to harsh and needs to be blurred a lot more but in my eyes it's already leaning on needing defined. You let other artists away with darker shading or sharper shading because it's what they like well to me this image is fine! I can find approved images where I think the shading is way over blurred and needs sharped but I know that the artist enjoys that and I can respect it. This wiki is ment to celebrate different styles of art in the beautiful images it has on it yet! Every image I put up is getting told to smooth everything out way too much for my liking. In my eyes every artist should be allowed to do their images how they want but i do agree that shading does need to be blurred/ smudged to an extent and that straight pixel shading isn't nice but that's not what this is. 21:08, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Then if you think those images should have had defined shading, you should have commented on them. That's why the CBA process is there. Those images are approved and that's that. If you don't like it, then the tweak nominations page is there for a reason, as is the voting process. Now, you explain to me exactly why you think you can be extremely rude when the approval page is for comments on images. If you don't like the purpose of this page, then why post art?

tldr; knock it off, Velvet. Just because you think it's fine, doesn't mean everyone else does. They often say that people don't want to change things about their art, and that's true. This page is here so others can comment. If you continue to be hostile towards someone that suggests a critique, I will be declining your image.

The shading should be smoothed out more still. It's really blocky and isn't really adding much depth to the image right now. 21:30 Sat Jul 23

The lineart is blurred. If you are leaving it this solid, then you need to add a second layer of somewhat darker shading and lighten this layer a couple ticks. Notice I did not say a lot, literally just a couple percentage points. Berry is right...this still looks extremely flat. And please do not bite my head off over something I have noticed on multiple screens. As well, with your light source there should not be shading on our left side of the closer hind leg. I am willing to provide red lines if you want explanations for anything I said. 21:53 Sat Jul 23

Shading shouldn't be on the front of the haunch with this source, and shading needs to be added on the back because there should be a shadow of the head bc of light and such. Facial shading could also use some defining 21:55, 07/23/2016

Reupload I smoothed it out, but I had to define it because I lost all the shading. I did reduce the shading on the left side of the haunch. In my mind it's shaded because of the hair around the haunch but if it needs removed just say so! And adiós it will be gone. I'm sorry if I came across as rude in my mind and when I read over my comments I'm just stating my opinion, I have just never been a fan of overly critical things but the reasons I do this is I love the wiki! 09:36, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Shading on the flank is leaking onto our front right haunch. --  02:06, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

Declined due to the one month limit. Anyone without other images may take over without needing to ask.

I'll take over ^^

Reuploaded

Aw, damn, I wanted it but was asleep when this was declined. Bluestar is such a pretty kitty. Anyways, lighten the part just the tiniest bit around her head. Like just the part behind her whiskers. You know? The little band-like thing that stretches around her head? Just push that back the tiniest bit. (I swear I'm better at critiquing traditional art, I promise.) Neon Skylite, the best person on the third rock from Sol! (talk) 22:11, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Shifted it back a bit, but I didn't lighten it. I will if someone else thinks it's too dark, though

Silvermask (D) ~ For Evaluation
Here's hoping this one gets approved ;) -- 21:01, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

Define shading? 1:06 Thu Jul 7

Re-Uploaded --  01:27, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Could you tone down the earpink? It seems very neon atm. 01:41 Thu Jul 7

Re-Uploaded -- 02:51 July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Can you make the stripe on his face a little more noticeable? I know it's there, but I can barely see it. 07:57, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

should this guy even have an image? his page only says 'a dark tom', which could mean any colour. 09:40, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Can you lighten him. His previous image was grey and this looks black. 09:49, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Matching the previous image is not required. Also, I'm not sure if he should have the image either, tbh.

Because of his name, and the way his description is phrased, I think his stripe should be lighter than his base, personally. 15:41 Thu Jul 7

That's an assumption, though. It's fine being darker or lighter, and we don't make descriptions match what we think it could mean... it's fine as it is.

Re-Uploaded --  17:39, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink? Also on the topic of "should he even have an image", I think it's relevant to point out that Rubblepaw is also described as a dark tom and he doesn't get an image.  20:26 Thu Jul 7 

Re-Uploaded (Shouldn't discussions go on PCA talk page like the should Silvermask have an image?) --  20:34, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

He looks black to me, I can't see anything on this image bar the ear pink. Also, the ear pink is a bit neon.

Re-Uploaded --  16:19, July 8, 2016 (UTC)

Comments? --  18:12, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

There seems to be an un-filled white pixel on the right-ish side of his face

Re-Uploaded --  00:23, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

Can you add more eye depth? (Basically add a darker green on the edge)

Re-Uploaded --  18:47, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

I cannot tell what is shading (if there is any) and what is markings. If there is shading, define it and define your light source, as I can't distinguish one atm. 19:50 Wed Jul 13

On his page it says he's got a grey stripe but I don't see the stripe could you possibly add it or if its there define it. 20:36, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded (As for the stripe, it is there but it is black because the other images have it black. --  18:56, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

What other images? He doesn't have any other images, and since this is his only one, shouldn't it reflect his description and have a gray stripe? There's also waste along the back

Re-uploaded (I meant his previous deputy blank. The artist made it black?) --  20:46, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

Since this is his only image, I'm pretty sure it needs to show the grey stripe. — Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 23:14, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, OA of the previous image here. It was made using a dark gray (but a lighter dark gray, not more of a neutral) base, and a darker gray for the stripe. That wasn't black.

Re-uploaded --  20:40, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

The stripe could be blurred/smudged. Also, there appears to be waste above his back and at the base of his tail. 13:14, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded --  17:20, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

There's still bits of waste on the back, and also I'm fairly sure a lump of lineart is missing at the base of the tail.

lighten/blur the shading 09:47, July 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded (Redid the shading) --  17:55, July 19, 2016 (UTC)

Define shading. are you using layers? 20:07, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the eye-depth?

Re-uploaded (Nope) --  22:52, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

There's a slight line of shading waste along the back

(Where? I don't see it) --  00:11, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Um, was there even ever a conclusion to the discussion if Silvermask should have a charart or not? 01:32, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

The waste is definitely there -- floating in a line stretching along the length of the back.

You should probably be using layers so you arent editing the linear. its much easier. 06:27, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded --  17:40, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

the lineart looks edited. what program are you using? 22:29, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Pixlr --  01:01, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

There's still waste floating about in three medium sized strands on the back.

Re-uploaded i'll work on it more in next upload. --  18:06, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

Erm, where's the lineart? You need to work below that, not above it.

Stonetooth (BP) (D) - CBA
I'll blur the stripes more in the next upload. Comments? <span style="">10:15 Sat Jul 16

Define the shading on the legs and tail. 13:15, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

He needs lil' teeth hanging out of his mouth like his other images

his stripes seem to be smudged a little on the other images. 13:59, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded for stripes and shading. Spooky, the tooth is there, but it is very hard to see since there isn't much space for teeth because of where the mouth is placed. Unless I should to change the mouth to make way for the teeth. <span style="">18:34 Sat Jul 16

You need to outline the tooth in black since it's a lineart change. That why nobody can see it. 15:29, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">18:14 Sun Jul 17

Define the overall shading. 15:59, July 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">20:43 Tue Jul 19

Smudge the stripes to give them more of a furry effect; the style doesn't quite match as it is now. Placement is fine, though- it's just the smudging. =P

Re-uploaded <span style="">07:49 Wed Jul 20

Define the shading on the foreleg farthest from us. I think there should be some shading there, but I can't see any. Also, define the light on the back paw closest to us. 13:39, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">16:04 Fri Jul 22

Define the shading more. 03:28, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">08:02 Sat Jul 23

Define shading just a bit more please, I'm still having trouble seeing it <span style="">21:56, 07/23/2016

Re-uploaded <span style="">08:04 Sun Jul 24

CBA?

Sunstar (Alt.D) ~ For Approval
Wow been a while. Anyways, I tried my best to match the alt leader.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  06:06, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload noticed the blotchy shading on the belly.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  06:20, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

His colouring looks a tiny bit off to me. Did you use black shading? If so maybe try tinting it since black shading just don't agree with some colours. It could just be my iPad's weird colouring though so if anyone thinks it's fine feel free to ignore this. <span style="">21:34 Sat Jul 23

Shading needs to be expanded on the haunch (see this as an example). There's some shading leaking onto the front of the haunch, and the shading on the front arm could be expanded upward to show transition from leg/chest to side. And because of light source, shading on the back to show shadow of the head. Nicely done on the pattern *-* <span style="">21:59, 07/23/2016

Reupload thanks jem! Yes I used pure black shading. If you still think it's strange on a you're computer or something, (or someone else agrees), what colour would it be best to tint the shading?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  23:57, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

I agree that the black shading seems to different I guess? I don't know how to put it! Ha but it does need expanded on the belly. Maybe tint it slightly purple or a dark red? 09:43, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

A very dark red might work, and maybe a warm brown? It's all up to you, and what works for you, though. Although in all honesty, since the alt leader that this is matching was shaded with black, I don't see any reason why you should be required to change the tint.

Reupload I couldn't figure out a way to tint the shading without redoing it. My hue/satuation setting doesn't like pure black or something, even if blurred. Unless it desperately needs to be tinted, I think I'll leave it.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  20:00, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Comments?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  22:01, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, it's really dark and I know its artists choice but it seems really really dark. Also should there be shading on the back with this light source? 04:13, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload There is shading on the back, should I extend it further?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  21:33, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, me thinks it should be stretched! Neon Skylite, the best person on the third rock from Sol! (talk) 08:37, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

I actually disagree. If the light source is the top left as it appears, the shading you already have is fine, as you can tell it's from the head's shadow. However, that shadow wouldn't extend over the whole back, so if you expand the shading there more it would begin to contradict the source. Thus, I think the image is fine as it is. 12:10, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Shellheart (D) ~ For Approval
first deputy and first patched kitten. well I'll fix the shading 08:45, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

re-uploaded better. 08:47, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading? Pretty kitty.

re-up why thank you good sir 21:20, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

I wanna pet it. But are you using the current version of the blank..?  <span style="">22:09 Fri Jul 22 

re-up thanks for telling me >.< 19:05, July 23, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the shading a wee touch! I think my eyes are deceiving me in this swirling patterned beauty! 09:44, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

re-up no prOblem-O 14:17, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the shading some? <span style="">20:47 Sun Jul 24

re-up 10:03, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

Shellheart was one of my favourites when reading Crookedstar's Promise. How I wish he became leader. Anyways, the shading on his tail looks rough. Can you smooth it out? Neon Skylite, the best person on the third rock from Sol! (talk) 22:13, July 27, 2016 (UTC)