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Loudbelly (A) - For Approval
Posting this for Brightstripes bause she can't edit the page yet. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 13:25, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the neck shading a tad. 18:11, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink to give it a bit more of a realistic look. 18:50, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the "highlight" on the haunch and shoulder a bit bigger. 21:04, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, it;s making her look black almost. 17:26 Sat Dec 17

Are you still working on this? And Sweet, Loudbelly is a boy =p  16:44, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the earpink a bit. 18:21, December 20, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

It has been 8 days since this has been worked on. Declined. Somebody may take this over if they don't have two apprentice projects  18:57, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Could I take over? Birdpaw got declined, so i dont know :l. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 19:26, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

No need to ask, just reserve it before someone else  19:28, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm taking over. It'll be reuploaded today or tomorrow. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 19:35, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed the earpink and shading. Highlights were hard, though, because I don't use them. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 19:58, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading please, and smudge the pelt into the ear-pink. 02:53 Sun Dec 25

He has waste between the whiskers and smudged lineart on both of the ears. 21:31, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the whole image, not just the shading. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  09:43, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? It's been five days. Squishee   I am le Puppeh!  01:25, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is it really? it always fails for me. I added transperency.... I hope >.<  ~Regifloat222  Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 21:30, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. 22:45, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I actually quite like this. I lightened the shading and smudged and blurred the earpink which i hadn't done before. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 20:31, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 22:06, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  ~Regifloat222  Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 22:11, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

I'd suggest taking a look at the apprentice tutorials for shading placement as right now I don't really understand where your light source is. 22:14 Sun Jan 1

The lineart is blurred/smudged. 01:15, Mon, Jan, 2, 2012

Define and blur the shading a lot, and I'm not sure, but I think there's waste around the lineart. 00:29, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 04:42, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Its been 9 days since the last upload; declined, or withdrawn...? I changed the heading to withdrawn... Anyone can take over. 00:20, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'll take over. 01:36, Wed, Jan, 11, 2012

Uploaded -  Boring solids. Changes aren't showing. 06:59, Thu, Jan, 12, 2012

The eyes look...purple...if the one showing is the current version. 02:03, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

The eyes are purple. Lighten the neck/head and flank shading. 23:28, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  ... No opinion on this image. 01:23, Tue, Jan, 17, 2012

Define the tail shading or lighten the rest of the shading. 00:08, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  I did both. 00:50, Wed, Jan, 18, 2012

Lighten the belly shading and neck shading. 21:46 Wed Jan 18

lighten the shading a bit-- 22:31, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the front hind leg shading a bit. Sky-  Fightin 'gainst the Legolution  22:35, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit.  Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  15:40, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  Forgot to say! 02:14, Fri, Jan, 20, 2012

Lighten the neck shading its to dark-- 21:04, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  08:00, Sat, Jan, 21, 2012

Make the shading more consistant. There's a random blurred black blob on the back heel, and no shading on the back of the leg or on the top of the hindquarters. 20:52 Sat Jan 21

Reuploaded -  I just redid the shading. Now it's going to start all over again, the comments I mean. <span style="">03:12, Sun, Jan, 22, 2012

Add earpink or make it so we can see it. Add nosepink. Also the eyes look blurred. Otherwise great job! ^^ 16:07, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Also the eyes shoudl have white pixels. <font face="Arial" size="1" color="Purple" >Sky Watchu want? 00:18, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  *facepalm* I forgot to turn on the eye/ear/nose layer. <span style="">00:39, Mon, Jan, 23, 2012

The dark part of the eye should be on the top of the eye, not the bottom. -- 02:20, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  Fail. <span style="">01:46, Wed, Jan, 25, 2012

This is way to dark to be consistent with the other images. -- 15:08, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Lionblaze (Alt. A) ~ For Approval
Okay, before anyone bickers, he was described as Orange as an apprentice. Any way, comments for improvement? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  17:33, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make it match the warrior charart and dull the ear pink and smudge it into the ear. Blur the stripes and make them piontier. 17:35, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sand, it doesn't need to match the warrior charart. If anything, make it look more orange, and less golden. Beautiful. 17:37, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  17:48, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

The paws look yellow.. 20:00, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  20:21, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

The whole image seems to bright/yellow. Desaturate the image a tad and make it have a slightly more orange hue. Also, sumdge the pelt into the earpink a tad more. 20:25, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  00:51, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make it more orange, blur/smudge the stripes, and lower the highlights or darken the shading. 00:55, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I love the smudge tool. Any way, comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  01:36, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, Rainy! Blur the ear-pink abit. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:49, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Thanks Maple. So happy for the smudge tool to be there. Comments? PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  01:55, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

---> This eye (at the top) looks pink-ish tinted. It might be my conputer, but could you make them more orange. <span style="">03:25 Mon Dec 26

It's the same as the warrior image. I'll change it if someone agrees to it. PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  04:29, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with Sweet on this. 07:29, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's probably your screens. It's not pink. It's amber. 19:04, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Agreeing with Twi here, its fine. Can you make the tear in his ear go a bit deeper? I know its supposed to look the warrior image, but right now it looks odd. 21:24, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Like the pixil closest to the white pupil thing it pink tinted, it really looks like it's pinky/orange. <span style="">21:31 Mon Dec 26

I opened it up on Pixlr and zoomed in, its fine in my opinion. 22:19, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 03:44, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think I did this one when I just joined PCA, and it got declined. Shouldn't this be declined as well? 17:20, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't have an image with the old blanks. Do you have a quote from when he was described? 19:12, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well, maybe after it was declined, they deleted the file, then Rainy posted it back up. 20:17, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

But wouldn't it have a delete log on it? 20:19, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well the same thing happened with a lot of alts, including Bluestar's. Sometimes as the members change, our opinions change I guess. If pale ginger (sandstorm) is different from orange, golden is too, so I think this should stay. Make him a bit brighter. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  09:27, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ya, a friend told me to say that if someone tried to get it declined. 04:59, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink slightly and make the torn ear follow the line of the back of the ear more, if that makes any sense. Just make sure the left side of the torn ear doesn't flip back unnaturally. <span style="">22:36 Sun Jan 1

Re-uploaded. Comments? 22:57, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Could you make the lineart on the back of the torn ear longer? Now it kinda looks like the top of his ear was chopped off XD <span style="">02:09 Tue Jan 3

Re-uploaded. Comments? 21:28, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and darken the shading a bit. 04:50, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I made it worse! Comments? 03:43, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Brighten it some, it looks pretty close to golden right now. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:47, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Changes not that noticeable. 19:18, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Darken/define the stripes and brighten the ear-pink. 04:14, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 19:31, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Connect a few stripes and maybe add some more stripes. 23:30, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 02:33, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Where's the torn ear? x3 14:28, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

According to what was said on Tigerheart's apprentice, the stries should match the warrior. :S <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution  22:18, January 17, 2012 (UTC) Never mind

Darken the shading a little. 00:06, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

The stripes seem to have a purplish tint to them.. Or is that just me? XD Make them more orangish. 23:05, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Changes aren't showing but what i will say is that the shading and stripes are the right. Also, i bring up Sandstorm alt warrior image, it doesn't look like the original warrior. 19:26, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the lovely shading :3! <span style="">22:17 Thu Jan 19

Re-uploaded. 20:24, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

This will sound stupid but it looks like he has a uni-brow maybe make the stripes like this cat. 00:08, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 03:23, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

The stripes on the haunch right now are kind of... idk weird? I think they need to be pointing down to the left some more 'cause right now they look like they're going straight across his body... which doesn't make much sense :P <span style="">04:39 Sat Jan 21

I'm not sure. I respect your opinion but if you were to sit this image upright, the stripes would be pretty even. 19:45, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think the stripes look find on the haunch, and since this is almost at the 1 month limit, and I think it's pretty much ready, CBA? <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  20:02, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to interrupt CBA but I really do think that the stripes need to be tilted down more. The hind leg is stretched down, not compressed up, so the stripes should be stretched with the body, not compressed into basically flat lines. <span style="">01:59 Wed Jan 25

Listen, they are slanted. And even Paleh agrees they are fine. I don't want to argue and this is reaching the one month mark and i don't have much time to redo them any way. They are slanted down, and they would match up if you sat him upright like i have said before. 19:13, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Smokepaw (A) ~ For Approval
A space?! Do my eyes decieve me?? :O 00:38, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading 00:50, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the shading. 20:05, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Defien the tail shading, and add some shading to the belly. <span style="">00:12, Fri, Dec, 30, 2011

Reuploaded The belly already had shading, so I just defined it along with the tail shading. 02:34, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and define the shading and smudge the earpink into the ear more. <span style="">00:50 Sat Dec 31

Reuploaded Darkened/defined the shading.. I can never seem to get the earpink right... But I smudged/blurred it too. 19:28, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the stomach so it matches the rest of the shading. <span style="">22:44 Sun Jan 1

Reuploaded Darkened the stomach shading. 02:44, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Make the stomach shading more consistent or add a little patch of "highlights", whichever you prefer. <span style="">02:14 Wed Jan 4

Reuploaded I kind of redid it, since I didn't like the old version of mine. xP  01:31, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the shading and/or define it. Great job Misty! <span style="">06:19, Fri, Jan, 6, 2012

Reuploaded Darkened the shading. Thanks DJ! 22:22, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more around the shoulders and head. 04:53, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Does this look good? 15:32, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

darken the shading on the belly and then define the shading, maily on the head and the cat's left frony leg. <span style="">02:46, Wed, Jan, 11, 2012

Redden the earpink and lighten the base coat just a bit. It looks almost black right now. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:50, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Had to redo it again since I lost the layers. -_-  01:38, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading, otherwise, wonderful job. 20:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded This good? 22:08, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the shading between the haunch and the shoulder. 23:37, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Umm.. Is this what you meant?? 22:40, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I would make the eyes a bit lighter. That's how I imagine Smokepaw. -- 22:52, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Since he wasn't described like that, and eye style is artists choice, I'm going to keep it like this but if anyone else agrees, I'll change him. 14:37, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

They look brown to me and if I'm not mistaken, cats don't have brown eyes. If you're going for amber, this is too dark. Lighten them a little ^^  01:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, well I got them off of Owlstar.. But I'll change them anyways. 02:30, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Felt like making them green. x3  22:18, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Define the light on the shoulder and belly a bit more. 04:03, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. 14:42, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Stonefur(A)~ For Approval
Here he is! Comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:47, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Take out the shredded ears. We typically assume that the injuries occur in the warrior rank unless the cat is mentioned with them as a kit or apprentice. 16:02, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Do i remove the scars aswell or not? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:05, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

I imagine when his ears got shredded those scars came along with it as well. Give him a gray nose unless he's like his sister and has a pink one 16:13, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

* shakes head* he has a pink nose. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:18, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:25, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 16:35, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:39, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the earpink and darken it a bit, smooth out the shading on the haunch, it's a bit blotchy, and make the highlight/lighter part of the tail go all to way down, not just at the tip. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:13, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay....sorry i was busy....I'll get to it in a second.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:17, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the nosepink. And it looks like he has a lighter muzzle. 12:19, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Withdrawning, read what i said on Rosepetal.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:22, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Can I take over? 13:18, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

REUPLOADED, alright I completely redid it. I have been wanting to do Stonefur's apprentice and now I can! 14:20, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I changed the heading if thats alright..... 01:03, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink, define the light on the face and back, and darken the shading on your haunch 05:06, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

I can't work on this today because I have this on a different computer. 14:26, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

REUPLOADED 13:59, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the sides of the pelt into the earpink. <span style="">22:05 Fri Jan 13

Also blur the earpink. 23:32, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink hun. 21:53, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Blur that haunch shading, it looks odd. o3o <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution  22:07, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

This needs to be reuploaded tomorrow or it'll be declined for a lack of work  03:21, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. Anyone with a free project may take over  02:50, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Can I take over? :3  13:14, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Course. :) <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  15:30, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:41, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Make the color of the earpink be the same in both ears. 23:55, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

They are the same color. It looks different because of the shading. 00:05, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Make the nose gray. 00:10, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

No. Don't. He was described with a pink nose. 00:13, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, all of Bluestar's kits have pink noses. ^^ Smudge the earpink into the pelt more. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="cyan" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Watchu want? 11:47, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Well then put shading on the other ear or something..because they don't look normal. One of them is neon, but the other is fine. 21:48, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  15:00, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit smaller and even out the shading; the head and shoulders looks darken than the haunch and tail xP 04:05, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Beetlenose (A) ~ For approval
Here he is. Comments? 16:52, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten him up, then add shading. The lineart is very hard to see. 17:28, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Is my computer or does he look like a really dark brown but not black. Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan! 20:38, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

It's probably your computer and '''re-uploaded. ''' 20:48, December 30, 2011 (UTC) I can barely see the shading. Darken or define it. <span style="">00:31, Sat, Dec, 31, 2011

Re-Uplaoded. 22:41, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the base colour a lot and add some depth to the eyes. <span style="">22:54 Sun Jan 1

Blur the earpink a lot. 03:18, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 18:58, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the base colour more and blur the shading. Smudge the earpink into the ear with a smaller brush so it looks like fur. <span style="">02:23 Tue Jan 3

Re-Uplaoded. 21:30, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the shading. <span style="">02:15 Wed Jan 4

Re-Uploaded. 20:33, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading a lot. 23:06, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Define the light on the face and shoulder 05:07, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Uplaoded. 16:38, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Could you maybe lighten the shading on the face...? It looks a little dark on my screen... 17:54, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this. My time on Wikia "has been limited", says Mom and Dad. 01:18, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'll take over. I withdrew Firestar  Squishee    I am le Puppeh!  04:22, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay it doesn't look like it, but it's different. Squishee   I am le Puppeh!  02:35, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Remember to change the heading. Nice work, but define and blur the shading/highlights and blur the earpink. 00:08, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry I forgot to change the heading. Squishee   I am le Puppeh!  01:33, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

blur the earpink and redden it, and either brighten the highlights, or lighten the base coat. It's too dark to see the shading. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:51, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re-did it using the colors from the warrior. Squishee   I am le Puppeh!  16:30, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading. Nice. 01:05, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not gonna change it unless somebody else says so. I took all of the colors from the warrior. Squishee   I am le Puppeh!  01:19, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading. <span style="">14:35 Mon Jan 16

Blur the earpink. 00:04, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Make the light parts lighter, I can hardly see him. o3o <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution  01:09, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm working on two solids? Oh, joy! :\ Sandlegs  What's up with  Leggy? 01:13, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Everything's up with Leggy. xD Anyway, can you smudge the earpink into the ear a little more? 01:24, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Umm if I do, whitch I tryed, it looks really horrible and bad. And I cant blur it easily... oh yeah I know why, because your awesome. End of the world xD Sandlegs  What's up with  Leggy? 01:32, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

It's spelt 'tried'. ^^ Try smudging into the ear using the sides of the earpink, it just seems to go up from the middle. ^^ <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution  10:40, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

reuploaded well you know I cant spell! Sandlegs What's up with  Leggy? 01:00, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and make the smudges look natural by making it a bit smaller. 02:04, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

No offence, but the earpink smudge looks like a blob. Smudge the pelt into the corner of the ears please. <span style="">22:14 Thu Jan 19

Reuploaded Okay now does it look better? Sandlegs What's up with  Leggy? 22:32, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Blur and smudge the earpink some more. 03:59, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the base pelt a little so that the shading is more noticeable. 03:49, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the corners of the earpink. <span style="">20:56 Sat Jan 21

Make the "highlights" a bit more noticeable. It almost looks like you just filled him in with black. 21:43, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm sorry but the base color is taken exactly from the warrior. The shading is also taken from his...sorry. Sandlegs What's up with  Leggy? 03:05, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Scorchfur (A) ~ For Approval
I think this is the last spot! This is my first as an apprentice, from 02:41, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely! There's some waste by the ear on ---> that side and on that side of the tail. This is great Mooneh! Squishee   I am le Puppeh!  02:47, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Thanks! 02:56, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

There's specks of waste around the charart, and part of the earpink closest to us leaked onto the back of the ear, could you erase that? 03:07, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Just tell me if you see any more waste, I tried to get it all. 03:23, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink. 03:24, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Smudged, got rid of the waste. 03:43, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the... I don't know if that's a highlight or part of the normal fur, "spot" on the haunch a tad. 14:34, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

There's a chunk of waste below the hind paw closest to us, and flecks of waste around his paws. 17:13, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''So much waste! XD 19:03, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the hindleg. <span style="">19:54 Sat Dec 31

Re-uploaded. I blurred. =3 22:15, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Is the haunch highlighted? If so lighten it. 16:11, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Light enough? 20:27, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the face a bit. Looks nice :3. I dont know if its my computer, but there is a little waste on the sides of the tail.--User: Fallenstars 23:06, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

The highlight on the haunch seems to be too big. Make it kind of rounder and smaller. 03:05, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I think I really made it worse, but see to it. =3 21:42, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

There is still some waste around the tail. 21:46, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. If there's any more waste, I'm a mouse. =3 22:16, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

You're a mouse ;) there's some above his tail. Smudge the earpink into the ear some more. <span style="">02:33 Tue Jan 3

There is also some more waste near the base of his tail. 21:10, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. *squeaks like a mouse* I know there's more waste...go ahead, point it out. XD 22:04, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

There's waste on both of his hind paws. ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  01:54, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

And around his head. 04:09, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Enjoy =3 21:32, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

The part at the base of the tail looks kind of like a highlight, darken that part. 01:28, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Is that better, or too dark? I smudged and blurred it a lot to blend it in but still be darker. 03:46, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

It looks like the earpink is smudged into the cheek. Erase that and make it black. <span style="">02:54 Wed Jan 11

Re-uploaded. There you are. Enjoy. =3 23:52, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

I think there's waste around the head. 02:07, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Yeah, that was when I fixed his ear from Sweetflower's advice. 16:07, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

His earpink does not look defined enough, but it is fine if it matches his other images. Just Call Me Crazy! ~Chez 22:27, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading on the haunch. Otherwise it looks great, Mooneh! 22:29, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better? 18:16, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Better. Darken the shading a bit more and blur it, and it should be ready. 23:34, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Enjoy =3 21:22, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

He looks too dark to me. Make the light parts lighter? <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution  23:33, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Hope it looks better! 11:28, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Give him a torn ear since he was described with it as an apprentice I believe. And either brighten the highlights, or lighten the whole image if you don't use them. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  15:28, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

There is some waste/miscolored lineart on his back foot closest to us. 15:45, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Gah, forgot the waste. -.- Do that later. Paleh, I don't want to give him a torn ear unless you know for sure he got it as an apprentice. 01:20, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded again. 01:41, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. Lovely~ 01:44, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks, Twi! 15:14, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, also, I looked at Scorchfur's other apprentice image, and it didn't have a torn ear...So unless it was approved wrong, I'm not tearing his ear. =) 00:31, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

There's a bit of waster beside his chin. 09:28, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 09:43, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe blur the haunch "highlight" (if it is one)? :3  21:23, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

I think it's fine, but okay...=) 22:43, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Brighten and redden the ear-pink a bit more. 04:06, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Reddening it made it brighter, so enjoy. (Yes, I see the waste by his ears). 09:41, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Beechfur (RC) (A) ~ For Approval
I love this :3 Second charart, comments? Solids are easy! :3 16:44, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Pretty! Lighten the back paws shading. (And only remove the color chart if you don't need it) 16:46, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Stupid me x3 Forgot to remove the color spots. 16:52, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Again. Cropped image. 17:24, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a lot and darken the base color ,19:24,January 2,2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:11, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading and where the pelt meets the earpink. 21:14, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Dang! I wanted to do this :\ Lighten the shading a lot. And the nose shouldn't be gray. 12:12, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Blur shading a lot too, hey Leafy if you want help, just ask. Sorry if...im just trying help ,18:34,January 5,2012 (UTC)

The shading should be in the chest, muzzle and stomach aswell, not just around the edge of the image. Also define the depth in the eye. <span style="">06:31, Fri, Jan, 6, 2012

I'm at school I'll try to re-upload when I get home. 16:16, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded What color should the nose be, then? And I didn't change the shading or the eye because I have read comments before that have said that shading and eye depth is the artist's choice. Sorry if I sound mean. 21:15, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I blurred the shading, though. And I meant shading placement. 21:17, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Any comments? 15:06, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the paw shading. <span style="">23:00 Mon Jan 9

Re-uploaded :3 23:23, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading, expecially near the bottom and base of the tail. <span style="">01:58, Wed, Jan, 11, 2012

Lighten the paw shadin' more. <span style="">21:34 Thu Jan 12

Re-uploaded 22:53, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten it more, to match the hind quaters' shadin'. <span style="">23:00 Thu Jan 12

Blur the haunch shading. 23:01, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Blur all the shading because it looks blotchy. 00:28, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the shading ,13:56,January 14,2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I gave him a makeover <3 I have a feeling someone's gonna ask me to lighten the image :P   16:10, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the whole image, shadings and match the color,define hightlinks ,18:44,January 14,2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded And uh... hightlinks? x3 19:44, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Hightlinks. xD Anyway, lighten the shading a tad more. 05:17, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I don't think I can lighten it anymore, or it'll look weird :S 21:45, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch. 01:07, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Shading looks too dark on belly.

Re-uploaded I think it's just your computer, Cheshire. It looks the same as all the other shading on my computer. 02:18, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the belly and flank shading should be lightened. Looks great Leafy! 02:21, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Make the highlight bigger on his hind leg..that is if you use highlights. If you don't make the shing darker around his thigh. 21:58, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

He looks a bit too dark to be described as a light brown cat.. Lighten him. (shading, base color)  22:14, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the base color is fine, just the lighten the shading to match his warrior image. 00:54, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 22:11, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Make the shading less gray. :3 And smudge the pelt into the earpink more. <span style="">22:23 Wed Jan 18

He looks like he has gray in him and Sweet I don't think it's the shading.. make him brown o3o 23:18, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Actually I think it might be the shading, but I'm not positive. Can you make the haunch a little less... mottled-looking? 02:03, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

The shading appears blue tinted. If you use layers, make sure you check the box in the transparency lock, then make sure you bucket fill the shading black. If you dodge and burn, try using a brush with a high opacity and make sure it's brown and go over the whole thing, minus lineart and anything not brown  02:48, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I use layers, yes, and I accidentally made him darker. D: I'll change his once someone critiques (That's how ya spell it, right??) this. 21:16, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Make the shdaing less gray. I suggest redoning it with a darker colour than the pelt (ie. if he is cream a dark cream). <span style="">01:13 Sat Jan 21

Wouldn't Beechfur be more: this color? He looks darker than his warrior image. I just color picked off his warrior image. I think you should use a color close to this for consistency reasons. Feel free to disagree though. 16:33, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Cedarheart (A) - For Approval


Never thumb an image. Also, you have to re-upload this over Cedarheart's apprentice image. Also, make the ear-pink fill the ear completely. Add depth to the eyes, blur teh shading and highlights a lot. 21:30, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded How is it? This might be a stupid question, cause I'm not a computer wizard, but what does "thumb" mean? *dies of embarassment*

It means it has the frame around it, or something and says who it was added by. Blur highlights (if there are any) and blur ear-pink, a lot, and define shading. Also, don't forget to sign with ~ 22:49, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, but can someone help me delete the thumbed one? I can't seem to find a way to do it..... sorry. 23:04, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, blur it plenty more, the ear-pink still needs to fill the ear completely, define the shading. 23:16, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

I think you should Add depth to the eyes... 02:19, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Tone down the earpink, its too hot pinkish. Rainface, Leafy already said to define the shading. :P 21:13, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

I just need I reminder on define-ing shading on gimp 2.6, and then I'm covered. Also, I don't want to be rude, but Rainface on your second comment what do you want me to blur? the shading or the earpink? help? 21:45, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

There's waste where haunches are and it seems flat. Plus it seems like you smudged where you need to blur. Shading could be gaussian blurred. 08:05, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think you added shading so you need to add some. Darken the nosepink. Blur the highlights a ton, though that was already mentioned, I think. And Twi, adding depth to the eyes is the artist's choice. 12:10, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

She knows Ferret, It's just a suggestion. The earpink needs to fill the whole ear, than the pelt smudged into it. <span style="">20:01 Thu Jan 5

In my opinion, I think the nose color is find. I think you should lighten it just a tad instead. 20:59, January 5, 2012 (U

Reuploaded I did everything except gaussin blur. I'll be on vacation for couple days as well 15:20, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Make the earpink more reddish-gray, like his warrior & elder images, and blur the highlights (If someone's already said this, just disregard it). 04:36, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink and darken the shading. 16:33, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a whole bunch. It looks too blotchy.

Are you working on this? It's been 7 days ._. 16:11, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. If any user wishes to take over, they may. 21:37, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

I will, please. 21:43, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, didn't Mossnose say she wasn't going to be back to the 13th? So shouldn't she get to post it again when she comes back? Just wondering... <span style="">22:17 Sat Jan 14

Maybe so, but more than a week without work slows the process of the project and the project's goal. 06:26, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

If she's not working on it, I could take over. I just noticed the heading change. If she's going to continue, that's fine, just an offer. 01:53, January 16, 2012 (UTC) Shadewing

Go for it. 15:05, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Alright then. I'll get working. 15:26, January 16, 2012 (UTC) Shadewing

Re-Uploaded - Changed heading. 20:20, January 16, 2012 (UTC) Shadewing

Smudge th epelt into the earpink and define the depth in the eyes if there is any. <span style="">20:25 Mon Jan 16

Re-Uploaded - Man I am bad at those eyes. 21:17, January 18, 2012 (UTC) Shadewing

Smudge the earpink more? 02:08, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink, and darken the shading at the base of the tail, on the neck, and between the back and front legs (where would that be, the flank?) <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  15:25, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

(Yes, I think that's the flank :P) <span style="">21:05 Sat Jan 21

Hey guys. I am so sorry I wasn't able to come on, my computer crashed, and I can't access anything. I'll try to get on when I can on my kindle, and I think Shadewing's doing a way better job than I was anyway. :p 00:05, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

You still working on this, Shadey? 04:08, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Sorry guys. Got really busy. 20:54, January 24, 2012 (UTC) Shadewing

Littlecloud (A) ~ For Approval
All colors are from his medicine cat. Comments? 08:35, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt inot the earpink more, on the sides of the earpink. <span style="">17:45 Tue Jan 3

Define the stripes and color his nose brown. 20:45, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Thinen out the shading on the haunch if that makes sence. <span style="">01:51, Sat, Jan, 7, 2012

Reuploaded. Naw, I got that, DJ ;) But I think I broke Littlecloud...and the burn tool hates me. XO 02:56, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded really quick. I think I fixed him ^^; 10:18, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the stripes and the shading, add some stripes to the legs, and blur the ear-pink. 04:08, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

I'll darken the shading and add stripes to the legs, but I'll only darken the stripes if someone else agrees. I got them directly from his MC. 11:18, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Scarlet. The stripes could be darkened just a tad. Try this hex: 732F0C 05:25, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid him again...but I like him better =3 05:19, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

The color seems to be a bit ginger compared to the others. Try matching the MCA a bit closer. 15:09, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 09:30, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. 22:17, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading. 00:02, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. x.x 07:40, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

The color is still off. 20:02, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Too ginger or brown? Or...what? xP 10:01, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Too ginger and too dark. Lighten it, make it less ginger, and define the stripes a bit. Try color-picking from the apprentice image. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  15:23, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. *pants* I died in the making, and shifted the light angle. 01:48, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

If you died, you wouldn't have been able to post that. Define the shading. 01:55, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Moonleaf...I was joking. Anyways, reuploaded. 03:09, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I smoothed him out a tad, and brightened him, because he was looking squarish. It doesn't look like a big change but...ah, well. 03:27, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Extend the stripes a bit more and curve them a bit. 04:10, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I've been tweaking up his shading, too. ;) 10:55, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Tawnyfur (A) - For Approval
Here she is, Tawnyfur! I know it's a fail. I haven't done a real charart since 2010. So therefore, you shall reteach me (yes, I looked at the tutorials)! So.....Bring On The Critism! Oh yeah...I may re-do the shading if I have to......again, sorry, it fails. 07:59, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Figured out how to fix shading and other stuff. -- 08:43, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I love fixing stuff in the course of a few hours. Oh, and for those who don't recognize the name..... look in the first arc, somewhere between books 3-6 -- 10:04, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded again. This time I gaussian blurred it. But I left waste *dies* I'll try to remove it... hopefully. -- 10:59, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

I fixed the title for you =3 20:56, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred. 21:03, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

There is waste all around the image. 21:11, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred shading and according to my wand tool, I removed all the waste. Does the ear look weird? 22:18, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

The ear looks good, but the pelt needs to be smudged into the earpink. Also, there looks like there i slighter fur next to the ear. 22:21, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. There you go. -- 23:12, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. 00:11, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink more. a cat ♣  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 23:18, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Make sure the whole belly is shaded. <span style="">06:43, Fri, Jan, 6, 2012

Reuploaded. Turns out I was blurring the earpink instead of smudging. Oops. Oh, and I did this without smudging the earpink that much, beacause I've got somewhere to be, so please wait, remind me, and I'll uploade later today/tommorrow 14:59, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Comments? 01:36, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Uploaded wrong version. Once again, comments on my now beautiful Tawnyfur? 05:12, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

It's been about two days. Comments? 06:00, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading and earpink. Also, can we tweak her images to look more golden brown? This is yellow, not golden brown. If we do, then we might as well start with the apprentice while it's up, so change that if anyone agrees. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  07:15, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred, but I didn't change the color. Please don't make me start over. Isn't the only thing that matters is that the image matches the warrior's image? 07:28, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading more  17:09, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I did it a couple times over actually....I wasn't happy with the haunches so I followed my instincts and used highlights. Hope it doesn't look ugly. -- 20:35, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

It's been about 2 days since a comment, so...comments (sorry I'm impatient)? -- 18:37, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 21:42, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:52, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading and blur it as it just seems inconsistant :3 20:24, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I killed it *sob*. Anyway, I can't seem to get the shading consistent. But I blurred everything and found some waste. 23:14, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading more, and is it just me, or does the shading seem.... gray-er than it does on the warrior? <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  15:21, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I won't say grayer. But shading on the warrior seems lighter less saturated, so lighten the shading desaturate it. o3o sorry I was wrong before. 01:05, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Make the shading more consistant and define it. It looks like it's all smudged and blurred together. <span style="">18:37 Sat Jan 21

Reuploaded. Pretty much redid it. I made the shading less gray and desaturated it. There was also some lineart misfunction, but I fixed it following the shorthaired female apprentice lineart. 02:45, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading lots. <span style="">21:50 Wed Jan 25

Rowanclaw (Alt.A) - For Approval


Er....yeah.....so......comments?.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:08, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the earpink a little more? 18:49, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

I love Rowans :D Blur the shading more. 01:39, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know if it's supposed to be like that but the forehead stripe looks like an m. 02:17, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yes mommy, thats how its supposed to look. Thats how it looked in the Manga. And i'll upload in a sec. Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 03:48, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 03:51, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

The shading placement seems odd. The highlight on the haunch is facing downward, so the shoulder highlight should too. Because, right now, it seems as if you have to light sources, one coming from upward and one coming from downward. If the haunch highlight stays as it is, then the shoulder highlight should be moved a little more downward, and possibly eliminate the highlights along the back. If you don't want to change too much, then I suggest moving the haunch highlight upward more. But, I might be wrong, the haunch highlight seems to be facing downward, if true, change that the way I said to. 01:27, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

This needs to be reuploaded tomorrow, or it'll be declined for a lack of work 03:18, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. Anyone with a free project may take over 02:44, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I believe I have a free project since my time is up. I'll take over Sandlegs  What's up with  Leggy? 22:00, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay I don't like it! Sandlegs What's up with  Leggy? 23:04, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and define the shading on the haunch and tail. 01:02, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Make the nose grey. 02:03, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Make the black go in kind of an M with two spikes, not one. As that's what he was shown with in the manga. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs   ♪Be prepared...♪  15:59, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution 00:17, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the side of the pelt into the earpink. <span style="">18:46 Sat Jan 21

And add depth to the eyes. <font face="Arial" size="1" color="Purple" >Sky Watchu want? 22:24, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading on the face. 23:42, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

You still working on this, Sandstorm? 04:11, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

I am I'm just really really busy. I'm on the vacation list so.... I'm gonna try to upload this tonight. Sandlegs What's up with  Leggy? 00:22, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re-did it because the M thing was hard. :/ Sandlegs  What's up with  Leggy? 03:17, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the base coat a bit. He was shown pretty pale in the manga. 22:33, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Swallowtail (WC) (A) ~ For Approval
I am posting this behalf of Thistleshine who can't post this yet. Comments? 03:51, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Fill the ear with earpink and add the highlights to the eyes. 03:54, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Add depth to the eyes and blur the highlights a lot. Also, define the shading. 04:08, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

There's blurred lineart all around, mainly on the paws. And add highlights/lighter part to the face. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  07:10, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the base color. 22:42, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Also, you're using the wrong blank. It needs to be the short furred female, not the long furred. 20:03, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded, but still have to change to short fur. Thanks everybody.

Thistleshine 21:36, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

After you change it, blur the shading a lot. 21:39, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded again. Short fur now. Comments, please? <3

Thistleshine 05:08, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and the shading on the back. 21:40, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded again. Pretty good? Comments please and thank you.

Thistleshine 17:04, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

There are some miscolored spots on the side of the haunch 19:08, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Blur where the "highlights" meet the shading. Lighten the nose color a bit, and smudge the pelt into the earpink a bit more. 01:20, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Erase the waste. <span style="">03:48 Wed Jan 18

Smudge the pelt into the earpink. <span style="">22:28 Wed Jan 18

Reuploaded. Comments, please and thank you? <3 -- 01:18, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading/"highlights". You use SAI, correct? If so, I'd recommend Pixlr or Gimp. 01:23, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this better? Thanks for all the support and comments you guys. <3

There's some waste by the haunch/tail. Also, blur the shading more, and get rid of the lighter strip on the back of the haunch. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  15:19, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

And there's a speck of waste near the haunch. 02:04, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any better? -- 11:37, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Sai's still good. Do you use layers with SAI? If you do, then blurring the shading would be easy. I could teach you if you would like me to. Anyway, the shading still needs blurring. 19:46, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'm kind of confused with the whole layers thing, please teach me. I just signed up for the mentor program, thanks for offering. I'll do a reupload as soon as I can learn.

Reuploaded. Help from mentor, completely redone.

The shading needs defined. 03:57, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Lovely, my apprentice! Smudge the pelt into the earpink. 04:00, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Smudged and defined. Thanks for the support.

Smudge the earpink in a bit more, take the earpink color from the warrior, and make the white in the eye on the other side of the pupil. Where's there's a black speck missing. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  00:07, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Define the tail shading. Lovely. ^^ -- 02:16, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Ivypool (Alt. A) ~ For Approval
How did no one claim her yet? Impressive. Anyways, comments? It's the silver alt, but do you guys think I should lighten her a bit more? 06:30, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I don't thin kyou need to lighten her, just the shading a tad, which should also be blurred a tiny bit. You also should blur the pelt into the earpink. Otherwise, looks great. 06:34, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'd actually forgotten to finish up the ear pink. That's what I get for doing five things at once... Anyways, re-uploaded. Thanks. 06:39, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink more. 16:27, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 20:27, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Can you define the light part of her shoulder a little more? And I'll CBA this. Nice job 18:39, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 20:47, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

As promised, CBA? ^^ 03:17, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, Cloudy. Darken the shading. <span style="">03:44 Wed Jan 18

And lighten of some of the shading on the haunch. Breeze whisker  03:56, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

You guys are picky. >.> Re-uploaded. 18:25, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Possibly give her green eyes, she was mistakenly described with that. 02:07, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Make the haunch "highlight" a bit bigger, very pretty Cloudy! :) 04:13, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Are you still working on this Cloudy? It's been 5 days. -- 06:22, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt A) - For Approval
Comments? 06:31, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. :) make him a little less green, and I think the alt should have tiger-stripes to, though I'm not completely sure. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  08:13, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks! Nah, I don't think he needs tiger-stripes, though if someone disagrees with me I'd be fine with changing it. 15:55, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Make it a bit more yellow.Smudge the stripes around the haunch a bit more evenly. Nice job. ^.^ 18:33, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the stripes just a tad. Lovely, Ivy! 01:18, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

This is lovely, but it's supposed to match the warrior version D: <span style="">02:36 Mon Jan 16

Reuploaded. I gave it a shot. =3 05:30, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant the warrior golden alt *dies* sorry <span style="">05:33 Wed Jan 18

I tried redoing it to match the warrior alt, but honestly it looked terrible and it was basically a triangle tabby and we are redoing those anyways. Could I possibly just use my own design? 01:47, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, sure. Run with it. <span style="">07:05 Sun Jan 22

Oi, den make it less green and moar yellow. :P <font face="Arial" size="1" color="Purple" >Sky Watchu want? 23:52, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well even if the warrior alt wasn't a triangle tabby (which it is) it'd have to be redone to be tiger-stripes, so you're fine with this. But could you make the colors maybe match a bit better? <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  00:04, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

You still working on this, Ivy? 04:15, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Will be uploaded ASAP. 00:25, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't know what you meant by make it match more, though 00:29, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Poppydawn (Alt. W) ~ For Approval
Here she is! I won't darken the shading, that's the only thing I won't do. I already lightened the highlights, by the way. Comments? 14:11, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Can you give her a graying muzzle? When Bluefur notices her, she said her muzzle had been graying for a while. Do not color-pick off mine as I need to lower the opacity. 17:27, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

REUPLOADED, I can't blur the graying muzzle so... 17:50, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Why won't you darken the shading? I personally think it needs to be darkened, but if you absolutely refuse, brighten the highlights more. Also, blur and center the earpink. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  18:12, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger too please. <span style="">22:09 Sat Jan 14

Define the depth in the eye. 01:16, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

You need to work on this or it will be declined  03:30, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. anyone can take over. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  15:14, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I will. <span style="">21:46 Thu Jan 19

Uploaded. Didn't bother making a new section. So yah. Here she is! <span style="">22:17 Thu Jan 19

Blur the shading and the earpink. 02:08, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Shading is fine. -- 02:09, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

There is waste on the top of the image. Awesome work my newly graduated apprentice 8)  02:22, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Define the light part of the tail. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution  20:13, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

'Re-uploaded. Thanks my magnificent mentor 8D <span style="">01:32 Sat Jan 21

Define the ear-pink 02:36, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Oops. Forgot to say Re-uploaded yesterday. <span style="">17:27 Mon Jan 23

Longtail (A) - For Approval
I hate this image. I hate this image so much. X.X Oh well. Guess that's what the PCA's here for. If Russetfur gets one, Longtail gets one. :P Comments? <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs   ♪Be prepared...♪  16:45, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Psssh I love this <3 can you darken his shading? 23:54, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a tad more visible. 00:23, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Why do you hate this image? It's lovely, just smudge the stripes a tad. 08:26, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the main pelt color. It needs to be pale. 02:12, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Make the stripes sharper and a little more jagged like his other images. 03:57, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Did all those things and had to redo the stripes with a pencil tool. don't tell me to blur the stripes, cause they're as blurred as they are on his elder. If I blur at even 1% rate they get too blurred. Gah, I really do hate this image. I shouldn't have done it, but since I have it up already... :P <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs   ♪Be prepared...♪15:19, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the haunch and define the light on the back 00:28, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Great job! I really like it. My only concern is that I think the earpink is a tad too smudged into the pelt. It looks farther than it should be. 18:45, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I could have sworn I reuploaded this. 0.o Well anyways, the earpink's this smudged in on other chararts, even more on some, so I'm gonna keep it like this unless someone else thinks I should change it too. 22:07, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Clawface (A) ~ For approval
Splashpelt reserved it, but didn't put it up, and its past 2 weeks...so here it is. Comments? 00:28, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Lovely! Smudge the pelt into the ear pink more. 00:31, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Re-Uploaded. 00:32, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Beautiful! Blur the shading on the haunch. Edit conflicts x.x 00:34, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Look at the innocent face on that evil'un. o3o If there is shading there, define it on the back paw furtherest away. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue">Fightin 'gainst the Legolution 00:38, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

No, there's no shading on that paw. I blurred the shading. Re-Uploaded. 00:52, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

I think you should give him a couple scars on his face. I know we normally assume that scars are obtained while a cat is a warrior, but considering his name... Well, yeah. Might just be me. 00:56, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well, there isn't any proof, so I won't. Sorry, but it would probably just get removed, like Tornear's torn ear, because it was based on assumption based on the name. 01:02, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, for all we know, he could've gotten the warrior name Clawfoot. Can you blur the back shading a little? 03:29, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, there's a cite for his scars in his description. Tornear's ear was removed because there was no cite. 03:43, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

As an appentice though? It just said he was mentioned as being so-and-so's apprentice (I just skimmed quickly) 04:09, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. o3o <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue">Fightin 'gainst the Legolution 21:25, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not adding scars...sorry, but there isn't any proof. Like Ivy said, he wasn't mentioned having scars as an apprentice. Re-Uploaded. 23:14, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading some more. 02:09, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the fur into the earpink more 00:49, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I would make it a bit lighter to match his warrior charart... to me it kind of seems dark. 22:29, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

The color is the same, but I was told to define shading, so I had to darken it a little. I got the colors from the warrior charart, though, so its fine. Re-Uploaded. 22:48, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. If you want to make it look lighter anyways and you have photoshop, you can do that by choosing a slightly light foreground color and using overlay with the paint bucket. 23:12, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think the color is fine as it is. 23:40, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten and blur the shading a bit. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  00:00, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (A) - For approval
Thanks Silver for lettin me have him! 8D Bah. Fail image is fail. 17:46, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

See? I told you you'd make this amazing! Lighten the shading where the front haunch and back meet. 21:20, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

The eyes look too green, so make them more blueish. Feel free to disagree. <span style="">02:33, Thu, Jan, 19, 2012

I think the eyes look fine. They look like they match the warrior to me. Anyways, lighten the earpink a bit more to match the warrior and this'll be perfect! ^^ <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  15:46, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

On his warrior, the white chest goes right up to his throat. Change yours to match please ^^ 19:52, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 19:48, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

re-Uploaded yeah, sorry bout that. Bah, stupid computer lost all the layers.. Oh, and Oblivion, I dont really think the throat as an "underside" cause it said his underside was white. I shoulda been alittle like this:[] I wanted to say this while you were redoing his warrior, but I forgot to. Heh, oops. 23:12, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Oakheart (Alt. Ki) ~For approval
Hi, like my charart? I made it pretty quickly =)

On the "characters needing art" page it said they needed a bracken alt, which might mean the alternate kit version, but I'm not sure so I'll post this anyways. 18:08, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

This isn't bracken colored. In fact, it looks exactly like his current kit image... 18:13, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I know it looks like his current kit image, but I made it on photoshop (I didn't copy it). I wasn't sure what the "bracken" meant. I'll make it lighter momentarily. 20:41, January 20,2012 (UTC)

It's a...thumbnail, I think? Change it pleeeease. 23:38, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

I know I am not a part of the project, but if you don't know what "bracken colored" means, then you shouldn't do that charart.

Dethumbed. Rename the file Oakheart.kit.alt.png. Bracken colored is along the lines of this: If you use photoshop, use the eye-dropped tool to pick a color and use that as your base color. 00:21, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

There's blurred lineart on his face and tail. You might want to fix it. ♫Purplemoon♪  Chinese New Year! Year of the Dragons!  13:58, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Light source looks a little bit, confused ,18:37,January 21,2012 (UTC)

I know what bracken looks like! I just wasn't sure what they meant by bracken on the characters needing art page. I'm going to use the colours from the alternate warrior version so that it looks the same. I'll also fix the lines around the muzzle and tail ASAP. 22:01, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 10:05, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

...Any more comments? -- 20:02, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

You should save it as a .png, not a .jpg, so the background will be transparent and there won't be waste pixels around the image. 02:10, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

It has to be png for more reasons than just that, so yes, change that. And rename this Oakheart.kit.alt.png. Also, be a bit more patient. Don't ask for comments unless you've been waiting a day or two and nobody's CBA'd or commented on it. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale  Legs   ♪Be prepared...♪  23:58, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry; I'm just kind of an impatient person. Re-uploaded 00:52, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Minorly fixed heading, it still looks really pixely. 04:22, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's cayse it was saved as a jpg at first. I'm sorry, but there's not much way to fix that without redoing, so I think that's what you'll have to do. Sorry. 16:14, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Oh...great. That's ok though I guess, since I can do solids really quickly. I'll re-upload it ASAP  21:02, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Birdpaw(A)~For Approval


Its not great but i tried i know the earpinks bad im tryin to fix it so that doesnt need comments about ear pink ill fix it so any other comments? 22:12, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Rename it File:Birdpaw.apprentice.png, lighten the shading, colorpick the earpink and scar off the kittypet image, and perhaps blur the shading. 22:13, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

I use pixlr what is colorpick? 22:19, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Colorpicking is when you open the other image found on their page on the editor and use the eyedropper tool to get the color from the image. 22:21, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

oh thanks 22:25, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded the ear pink was hard to change because it wasnt saved under layered before thats why its bad 22:41, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure that chararts should be saved as a .jpg...They are normally saved as a .png. Also, the file name is still...wrong. The A in apprentice shouldn't be capitalized. Blur and lighten the shading. 22:47, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Chararts shouldn't be saved as jpg, otherwise they pixelate. You might have to redo and save as a png. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue">Fightin 'gainst the Legolution 23:05, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded i know yet again the earpink is terrible so please dont comment on that and i lightened and blurred the shading 00:36, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the scar...Looking nice. 00:39, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

thanks and i dont know why the box is around it its a png 00:41, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Something worng my comp. wont let me blur or smudge anything anymore what do i do? 00:44, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded now its working i blurred it 00:48, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hun, You need to make the background transparent not white. 01:12, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

this is png i dont know why its like that 01:19, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

No it's probably because you didn't make it transparent. I know your work with pixlr, so just take the wand tool and go over the background. ^^ 01:23, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the scar and define the shading. 03:02, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the black. 03:41, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

ok not really sure what you mean cinder what exactley do i do with the wand tool do i delete the background? what layer do i delete it on? 17:58, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

My comp. isnt working well so i cant really blur alot so i might take a while to reupload 17:58, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

and i know i seem stupid but im bad at blurring ear pink so how exactley do i do it and make it good 18:03, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

re-uploaded i know the background im workin with it to make it transparent 18:21, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded thanks to teldy for telling me how to make it clear on the background thanks teldy! 18:55, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Remember to upload over the old file when reuploading. Don't make a whole new file. Rename this Birdpaw.apprentice.png and either brighten the highlights of lighten the base coat. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs   ♪Be prepared...♪  19:02, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Make the scar less red. 21:02, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

re-uploaded the scar is the same color as the earpink now and i added highlights to make the shading "pop" 21:32, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights <span style="">00:11 Sun Jan 22

Re-uploaded the highlights are as bright as the'll get-- 00:59, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

There's waste all around the image. 01:08, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the scar and can you darken the nose pink just a tad? And I think there is blurred ear lineart, but I can't tell.. >.<  14:35, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

She looks like you just filled her in with black! Add highlights or something. 16:42, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

She does have highlights and there as light as i can get them and her nose is black so i cant darken it-- 17:34, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Add another layer of highlights, perhaps? 17:35, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

re-uploaded i added another ;ayer of highlites.-- 18:07, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I think there's a speck of watse by the tip of the tail.<font face="Arial" size="1" color="Purple" >Sky Watchu want? 02:59, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

where do you see the waste sky not bieng sarcastic i just need to know where it is so i can get rid of it-- 22:26, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

The ear on <-- side doesn't look completely filled in. 01:30, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

re-uploaded it was overfilled.-- 23:50, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten her up a tiny bit. 14:37, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Honeyfern (A) ~ For Approval
Not many more apprentices left. ;.; All of the colors are from the warrior. This will take forever *dies* Comments? 02:27, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think her stripes should be just a tad bit darker to match her warrior image, but I can't tell. >.< Cute! 15:49, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thank you Misty :D Yeah, I think you're right. 16:28, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

This is so pretty!!! Darken the shading just a tad. 06:02, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded  Thank you R-face :D 06:21, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Brighten the ear-pink and make the light on the back a bit larger. Very pretty, Mountain! 04:20, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thank you Scarlet :D Sorry this took forever XP 02:07, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Brackenfur (A) ~ For Approval
Okay, this was redone to match the kit image i made. I don't have exactly what i had on the approval page because apparently logging off of my computer and trying to get back on and paste it doesn't work. OA = Shaf Girl, Goldenpaw adding the eye color and Snowdazzle switching it over to the new apprentice blanks. Comments? 03:33, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Er...Snowy never got this approved. She withdrew it, therefore, I'm kinda sure this has to be on the approval page...I may be wrong... 03:40, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Ya, this goes on the approval page. 03:41, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Ugh, I knew Rowan was getting something wrong. Lemme move this. 03:44, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Also, define the tail shading. I'm not sure the light source is very clear, but, I may be wrong 05:05, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 19:18, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

His warrior image on the tweak page was declined. I'd say go ahead and redo the stripes as you wish. 22:59, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, they match the kit blank that's up. 00:04, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink a little more and add some more stripes to the back. 14:33, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Loner Blanks ~ For Approval
Ok, what I'm going to do is, post the short haired male for now. Once that gets approved, make it longhaired and post that. Then, when that get's approved, I'll post all of the blanks and have a sort of final comments thing. This will make it easier for people to comment (hopefully) Better to take it slow right? XS So anyway, comments? 05:43, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe make the tail curve up or down; it looks kinda unnatural just stuck straight up like that. Make a line of pixels from the back of the ear down to define the head and maybe bring the lines of the muscle on the back of the shoulder and the front of the haunch up more. (i.e. extend them) 05:45, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded How is this? 06:16, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Add whiskers? :3 <span style="">06:42 Sun Jan 22

Re-uploaded Whiskers are sexy. X3 06:46, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

This is gonna be kinda hard to explain.... oh boy. XD Well, first off the shoulder bone that's sticking up should be on the other side of the body. If you think about it, since he's standing on the far front leg, that shoulder would be push up more. Since the one closest is being stretched out, you wouldn't be able to see the shoulder really at all. And the haunch shouldn't have anything sticking up at the top. It just kinda molds together with the rest of the rump, no bumps. Also, cats tend to have spines and bellies that curve upwards. The belly doesn't taper like a dog's. And on the back leg, that little bit that sticks out, you know, right below the tail? Should be a lot shorter. here's a good reference. It's a kit, yes, but it should help with what the basic anatomy should look like. Also, could you make the neck shorter, and maybe make him look up a bit more? He looks kinda sad. He wouldn't be looking down while walking probably, so it'd probably be more realistic looking forward too. The haunch should also be a bit fatter and go farther down. *can redline if necessary but I don't want to give it where it's not wanted* <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  09:10, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Paleclaw makes good critiques. X3 Tell me if you need a redlining. First thing I have to say, is that when you look at a cat, its body is sleek and streamline. In all honesty, yours looks almost more like a dog. A cat's back, like Paley said, slowly slopes upwards. I doesn't make that dip like you put into yours. Besides making the neck shorter, could you also move the head up a tad. I don't think I've ever seen a cat walk with its head that far down. Maybe make it level with the body? The entire front leg needs to be moved down and shortened. And when you redo the back legs, make sure to line up the front elbow and the knee. Besides what Paley said, you put an extra joint in the in them - they should just end with the paw. The legs on the other side need a little work, too, but it'll be easier to tell what once the front are done. Ugh, I need a link, but I can' find anything that doesn't tell me everywhere not to reuse. >.> Breeze  whisker  15:21, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I'm an anatomy fail >.< There's waste, I'll erase it eventually x.x I redid the back legs, I changed the position of the head, changed the shape of the eyes, made the back curve up, and made the neck and tail shorter. But before I change the front legs, should I make the extended leg be lifted up? No redline yet, I wanna see how far I can go with this (or how long my sanity lasts). 17:08, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I thought I might as well give these for refrence 1 <--that one has a good paw refrence I guess this one--> 2 is just good to look at and has good ears tail and whatever and finally this--> 3 shows the muscle and shoulder. Dip the tail more and make it longer-- 20:00, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I made the extended paw lifted up and I made the tail longer. I'm not really sure how I should change the shoulder or the ears. 21:41, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

There are some gray lines by the stomach. 22:15, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I think I got all of the waste now. 22:25, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Eh, personally I'd prefer it if all the blanks were here to make it easier to compare them for consistency. Also, still personal, but could you bring the head up so the cat isn't looking at the ground? It doesn't need to be staring straight ahead, but I like to think that loners (Well, Ravenpaw and Barley at least) can have as much dignity as warriors. 23:08, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I don't mind the head in a low-slung, cautious stalk position, but this uber-humble ground-staring the blank is doing should stop ;) make it prouder, so that he's either hunting or moving with purpose, not slinking along not even watching to prevent something from eating him! Also, the proportion of leg-length to body-length is... well... off. Cats a long-bodied, low-slung animals. The proportions you've got are much more canine. This image demonstrates what I'm talking about in the proportions. I'm guessing you're more used to drawing dogs (just based on the anatomy choices you're making), and the transition is hard (I've been working on learning cats for years, they're just difficult to draw, IMO). The tail set is much better than it was on the original, but I think shortening it was a mistake. It's simply too short in proportion to the body now to represent the "average" cat tail. Overall, nice work. Replacement Blanks are the hardest to work on because they've got to be perfect to justify replacing the one that was. 23:48, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded To be completely honest, I don't really think I'll be able to edit two images at a time and keep them consistent. I will upload all four after 24 hours of no comments. I fixed his head so he isn't searching for four-leafed clovers now :3 I also made the legs shorter and thinner. I left the eye blank. And I made the tail a bit longer. Sorry it took so long X.x 02:10, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

It looks like it has two shoulders on one side, and the leg is not in line with it. Make sure the leg doesn't look awkward. 04:40, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 05:11, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Make the forepaw closest to us longer; it looks like it was shrunken. Define a bend in the paw more, then make the paw itself longer. 10:19, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Make it's front right front paw droop. 22:05, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I is so lazy >.< 00:35, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe add one more whisker. Ah, wonderful, Mountain, and the anatomy is good, you're good anatomy. =P -- 02:07, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Daww Thank you so much Stoney 8D 02:13, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Lovely! ^^ I think you should get rid of the shoulder line closest to us, from what I've seen of cats in this position, you wouldn't be able to see it. Just the far side. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs ♪Be prepared...♪  02:53, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thank you Paleh :D Since no one has suggested any major lineart changes I'm going to upload all four now. 03:02, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Shorten the far legs so it doesn't look like they're walking on tightropes, and get rid of that extra joint you will have in the hind leg - smooth it out or something please. Also, round off the tops of the paw on the far front leg. Breeze whisker  03:05, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

To me, if it's going to be hunting, the ears should be perked to pin point their prey. Also, the neck just seems weird to me. I always though of cats having their neck and head making a strait line, or maybe neck pointed down and head looking strait ahead, kind of like this picture here: -- 03:28, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I wasn't really imagining it hunting, just walking. I changed the neck but I'm not really certain about the ears. If someone else agrees that I should change them, I will. 03:44, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yay Longhairs! Gaah! Why am I so lazy?!?! >.< 05:55, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Derps I forgot to fix the joints before x.x 06:04, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded *headdesk* 06:13, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Can you possibly curve the paw a tad more? 13:13, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

the change in the position of the head is very nice. It's good that those four-leaf clovers are safe again ;) Then, I'm going to talk about the points of it I consider "weird" again. I'm not going to tell you how to fix them, just what to consider as you work forward. Nitpicking and telling you what I think will fix it isn't going to help you any. *cough* The points i've got for you are the hips, and how those connect to the tail and the legs. There's something off there, and I think it's because you've drawn doggy hips on the kitty. I'm not exactly sure, but it might be as simple as where the tail is set on the hips. I suggest playing with it. The next point is the front shoulders. That whole near-side foreleg just looks off. I know people have been picking at it and telling you to adjust it, but stop listening to them, take it off and redraw it. It's only gotten worse since you started on their incremental fixes. Part of the issue might be that you've take bad advice (putting the bend in the paw so it's rolled under even though the cat's at the part of the step where he's reaching forward to lay his paw down). To aid in forward progress, I present you with some refs: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] In the future, if a change makes the blank worse, or you know it's going to make it worse rather than better, just don't do it and state why. This is Crit, not a demand session. You're the artist, in the end it's your job to make the blank perfect. Not listen to every nitpick regardless of how useful it actually is to the final image. 14:21, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

This is just for the long-haireds. Cats' fur kind of comes at a cowlick (lack of better words) on their chest and I feel they would benefit from having their fur go in a realistic way. 19:16, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I'm really sorry this took so long x.x School 'n stuff I think I fixed it. I know I'm more familiar drawing dogs than cats. I think that's why I was changing everything people told me to change. 01:31, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Have faith in yourself ;) and use refs if that's what it takes to have it. I'll make actual comments later. 02:41, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

These are lookin' very nice, Mountain! Here's a fairly good canine vs. feline anatomy tutorial if you need some help with those back legs: Here. The main thing I see is that your hocks are still too far up on the leg. Both the femur and whatever the heck it's called, the bone between the knee and the hock, are almost the same length. Also, the back looks oddly flat and straight. Though by no means should the back dip like a horse's, I'd add a little big of roundness to the haunch area. Also, the front leg on the ground looks stiff. I think moving it back a tad will help, so that it looks more like the bone connecting the elbow to the shoulder is there. As it is, you have the leg directly below the shoulder, and that doesn't really happen. Also, show the cat's ribcage a little on the belly. Don't make it tuck up like a canine's, but right now it's a straight line - give it slightly more shape and roundness. Help it show how a cat's skin connects with the legs. Also, don't touch the closest shoulder anymore. And if you're gonna have the front leg extended, I'd think you need to drop the elbow a small amount and smooth out the "wrist" joint. Maybe drop the head also? So that the spine is sorta level. What you have is okay-correct, but I just think that it would help with the slinking look. I'm sorry if I'm repeating anybody else's critiques, but I merely skimmed them. XD Breeze  whisker  03:16, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Starlingwing (A) ~ For Approval
Frostheart's was declined, so I reserved him. Comments? 06:18, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear pink more. 13:10, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Lovely! Just darken the stripes to match the warrior image. They seem a bit pale here. 22:57, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Are the stripes right? 01:05, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Can you blur them a tad more? 01:48, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Onestar (Alt.L) ~ Declined
I hate this but whatever, he was shown as a black and white tom in Warriors return. 17:02, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

It looks cool, but I think it was established that the black and white tom was Tallstar, put in on accitdent because Mr. Jolly forgot that he'd died when the Clans reached the lakes. 17:37, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Really? Okay if you need to decline this that's fine by me 17:55, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Declined. If another senior member disagrees, fine. But even if it's not confirmed that the black and white cat was Tallstar, it's not confirmed that it was Onestar either. For all we know, it could have been a more realistic depiction of Blackstar. 19:00, January 25, 2012 (UTC)