Warriors Wiki talk:Books

The Sight - Silver Nomination
I'd like to nominate The Sight for a Silver Nomination. Just one question, should we include the alternate version where Jaykit, Lionkit and Hollykit have yellow eyes in the gallery, or is that unnecessary? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:01, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

The article is great, but before we make a book article silver, its sub-pages (Cliffnotes, Allegiances, Gallery) must qualify for silver (or be already silver). Allegiances and Gallery are OK, but the Cliffnotes need some work; more detail should be added to them. As for the cover - yes, we should include it, as there were books actually released with this cover. I added it to the Gallery. Kind regards, 18:31, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the Cliffnotes, Helix. I thought myself that they were going to need some work. The problem is that I'm returning The Sight to my friend and I don't own it (well I did, but I lost it ;) anyways, from the rest of the time I have left, I will work my tail off to fix the Cliffnotes ;P Earth  bender Tawny Style! 18:34, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I had to give The Sight back to my friend tonight, but I expanded the Prologue and Chapters 1-3. I'm getting The Sight from the bookstore soon (most likely this upcoming Saturday), but for now, I could use some help for expanding it. Earth bender Tawny Style! 20:26, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for your work, those chapters are really great! Unfortunately I don't have the book so I cannot help out, but I'm sure it will be done soon. Thanks again, 05:05, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I found The Sight!!! :DDD Anyways, I'll continue to work on the Cliffnotes. ;P Earth  bender Tawny Style! 17:56, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I found The Sight!!! :DDD Anyways, I'll continue to work on the Cliffnotes. ;P Earth  bender Tawny Style! 17:56, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

I have a few minor issues with the main article, though the cliffnotes are coming along well. The Trivia section, publish date and praise all needs citations. I'll take a look tomorrow if no one gets this first =) Also, I have a liking for those neat edition sections as can be found on the Midnight and Moonrise articles. It would be really good if we could get that together for this book (if applicable of course) though I have to admit that I need to get my head around how to source the informaton myself, so let's call it a learning curve for just about everyone here. -- Sandy star 17:42, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I don't think I will get it first (quite busy these days), so you (or someone) should "take a look". ;) I started the Editions section however, adding the two known foreign editions; the rest (i.e. the English ones) can be found out easily from amazon. I'm glad you like the idea btw, and as I promised, I will sort out the data for all book articles as a criteria for silver nomination (NP already has them). Of course, if you wish, I can put together some tutorial on where / how to search for info on editions, so you (and others) can help out too. :) 20:23, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Scratch that, I got them for you (except the wolf controversy - I didn't find any reliable source yet). 20:23, August 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * I've spent about an hour looking and haven't found anything either. I'm not sure where we go from here; all I can suggest is that we remove this information and if there is ever a source found for it then it can be added again. There is nothing els wrong with the article as far as I can see. 11:38, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Any more comments before the vote goes up? 08:51, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, we still have to sort out the cliffnotes. Totallytawnypelt99 was working on them, but stopped after the first 6 chapters. The rest of the chapters are not bad and could qualify for silver; but the article looks very uneven this way; either we need to expand the rest or tone down a bit the first ones. Tawny, if you read this, please tell if you still plan to complete it. 16:27, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Please excuse me. I competely forgot about them. We definitely need to make it consistent. 17:16, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry that I stopped so soon ;P I lost it for a while (I'm not that well organized and I got grounded for a few days) and I am still working on them, Sandy. But I'm also working on the Cliffnotes to BOTC... Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:05, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, shall this be taken down, as Tawny left the Wiki? 01:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * A section should be taken down when the discussion / activity in question is complete. This section is about expanding The Sight cliffnotes and article, and should remain here until that task is completed and The Sight and its sub-pages qualify for silver, no matter if Tawny left or not (Sandy is actively working on the cliffnotes as I see).
 * Talking about archiving, the section about SkyClan cliffnotes shouldn't have been taken down either, as the SkyClan cliffnotes are not complete yet. It should have been archived when the article in question is complete; and it is not yet.
 * Furthermore, Join requests like this should be put in their dedicated Join archive, not the one with the discussions.
 * Please be a little more attentive when archiving. Regards, 03:51, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Helix: I moved the join request to the correct archive for you. Whitestorm: You can archive however you like but I generally tried to keep it to 30 join requests per join archive and 20 discussions per archive, with the archives labelled by date (because I'm OCD like that). On this section: I am still working on the cliffnotes and apologise for only doing a few sections but it's not the most entertaining of tasks, I had college work to do and I had to go to work. I'll try and do a few more today. This is a community project though and although one person may nominate an article, the whole community have the responsibility to work on it. Therefore, this shouldn't be archived just because Tawny has left. 07:22, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, please, anyone who owns this book feel free to work on it. I'll try to get it from the library tommorow. 01:06, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

New Content Drive - Suggestions
Okay, well I think it's about time we had a new content drive as the work has been completed on Warriors Books so thank you to everyone who edited that article. Do we have any suggestions for the next content drive? Maybe an article you think needs a lot of work or one that you'd like to see featured in the near future as a possibility for gold? 14:10, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

How about Forest of Secrets? It's allegiances are fine, but cliffnotes, gallery, and plot summary could use some work. What do you guys think? 14:50, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I spent half an hour to check various articles, but I did not find any that needs major work. Everything seems to be in place in this Project. :) 07:08, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I know, right? That's why I didn't suggest any myself because I couldn't think of any. I think Forest of Secrets could be an idea though as there are a few things that need doing: The cliffnotes need major expansion, the plot summary could be expanded and needs checking over anyway, and the publication history needs adding, praise citing and additional praise added, and some other citations are missing such as author, release date etc. Perhaps we could focus on making this article gold standard with a view to it being featured as the next FA? We need to have some goals, after all. 08:40, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * You have a point there, and a PB gold article sounds nice. :) I support Forest of Secrets if there are no other suggestions. 16:21, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the cliffnotes need some work. I agree with the gold/FA idea as well. 18:13, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is just me saying, but out of these choices these are the articles that need MAJOR either work or expansion:


 * All the galleries for the Super Edition
 * Cliffnotes SkyClan's Destiny - needs to be finished
 * Cliffnotes Battles of the Clans - needs to be finished
 * Bluestar's Prophecy - plot summary needs to be completed
 * Cliffnotes The Sight - needs to be expanded (I'm working on them, but could use some help)

These are just from the top of my head, but you and I both know there might be some more.

If we were going to do any of the Cliffnotes, we might as well do the gallery, and plots summary as well. But of course, I would still go with Forest of Secrets. 21:19, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Also, just saying (I agree with the Forest of Secrets, I was just looking) that the Warriors Timeline has some blank spots and needs citations, especially Bluestar's Prophecy (meh, sorry if this is a LITTLE off topic...)

Of all these, in my opinion Forest of Secrets is the best for a content drive, as most people have the book and can help out (unlike the other books that are owned only by a few people). About the Timeline, that concerns Project World; it was mentioned already in April or so, but no one found the time yet to finish it. Kind regards, 19:12, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that we don't want to do one of the new release books as a lot of people won't be able to help with it. As for which one, well I don't really mind. I think probably Forest of Secrets is a good idea. Tawny, remind me to help you with those cliffnotes if I forget (though when I'm going to do it I have no idea - I'm working today and am away for the weekend... I'll find some time to do a few chapters if I can). If I don't then poke me with a stick early next week and I'll remember =) 09:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

lol Sandy don't worry, I'll go back in time to Dark River and ask to borrow the stick from Jaypaw xD. Do you mean The Sight cliffnotes or BOTC cliffnotes, because I'm working on both, but I'm pretty sure you presume The Sight...and Helix, I will take that to Project World when I get the time...

Is everybody okay with Forest of Secrets? 21:02, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK for me. I added the publication list to the main article. :) 16:38, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, Forest of Secrets is also fine with me. 01:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Firestar's Quest - Silver nomintion
I am nominating Firestar's Quest for Silver Nomination this is my first nom. -- Bravespirit Fight till' death!! 05:47, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

There are a lot of citations needed: the places marked with the cite tag, the author, illustrator, pubish date and praise. I'll check through the detailed summary myself now in just a moment and fix anything I think needs fixing but I am far from infallible. I'd quite like the publish history in there though it's not necessary for silver (I still need to work out how to do those myself). For anyone else wanting to attempt it, Helix has a tutorial here. The gallery needs cover references for the US version and I'll do a spell/grammar check on the cliffnotes which look okay but that I haven't read through properly (darn my english work calling me from my desk. Hence this message being so rushed.) 10:00, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Plot Summary and Cliffnotes need to be expanded a lot. 12:15, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

On publish history - check Amazon for the US editions (hardcover, paperback, e-book); and translations are in German and Russian. 17:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I did a major expansion of the Cliffnotes with the book on paw, rewrote the main article and added publication list, and referenced the Gallery. I support it for silver. :) 18:32, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Woah Helix. I am in awe. Support. :D 19:21, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Any comments before the vote is put up? 21:06, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Vote is now up. 20:30, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Menu Bar order
I'm not sure if it's different for anyone else, but under the Books part of the menu bar, here's the order I see (going by series)

Rise of Scourge

Tigerstar and Sasha

Original Series

Super Editions

Graystripe's Adventure

Ravenpaw's Path

New Prophecy

Power of Three

Field Guides

Omen of the Stars

Wouldn't it make it easier if we did it in chronological (did I spell that right?) order?

Original Series

New Prophecy

Power of Three

Omen of the Stars

Super Editions

Graystripe's Adventure

Tigerstar and Sasha

Ravenpaw's Path

Rise of Scourge

Field Guides

Just my thoughts, doubt it if anyone can see it, but if can, can someone edit the menu bar? (I know the admin's can do it because I'm an admin at my wiki and I can edit the menu bar ;P)

One more thing (wow lol this is LONG) shouldn't The Sign of the Moon and The Forgotten Warrior be under the Omen of the Stars bar thingy ma bobber? ;P Earth  bender Tawny Style! 01:57, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, maybe we could sort it like that, but an admin would have to do it. Also, I think that The Sign of the Moon and The Forgotten Warrior aren't under Omen of the Stars because they haven't been/not close to being released yet. At least, I think it's like that. 16:53, August 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I thought that letting the settling of the Menu-bar go to the Books project was sensible, since it's ONLY the order of the books section. (I personally think that the Field Guides should be at the end of the novels and before the "manga") When you guys come a decision, just let me or another Sysop know and it can be changed. 17:23, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I thought of Field Guides at the bottom since they don't really have a specific order to be read in, also because under Warrior Books, it's at the bottom of the table for chronological order, but I'd be fine if it was before manga, because after all, "manga" is not really...official (not that I'm anti-manga or anything, I love manga xD)
 * Well, I thought of Field Guides at the bottom since they don't really have a specific order to be read in, also because under Warrior Books, it's at the bottom of the table for chronological order, but I'd be fine if it was before manga, because after all, "manga" is not really...official (not that I'm anti-manga or anything, I love manga xD)
 * Well, I thought of Field Guides at the bottom since they don't really have a specific order to be read in, also because under Warrior Books, it's at the bottom of the table for chronological order, but I'd be fine if it was before manga, because after all, "manga" is not really...official (not that I'm anti-manga or anything, I love manga xD)
 * Well, I thought of Field Guides at the bottom since they don't really have a specific order to be read in, also because under Warrior Books, it's at the bottom of the table for chronological order, but I'd be fine if it was before manga, because after all, "manga" is not really...official (not that I'm anti-manga or anything, I love manga xD)

Well personally I would say Main Series, Super Editions, Field Guides, Manga... but to be honest I don't mind much. 09:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * In any case, the Main arc should be the first - those are the most important. I recommend the SE coming after it. The mangas should be one after another as well. The field guides... either after the SE or after the mangas. Oh well, this was the same what Tawny and Sandy wrote, so I could just say "I agree". :) 12:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. 15:08, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Brightspirit's Mercy
I finished the rest of the cliffnotes. Should I take it down from the to-do list? Willow heart  1231  00:56, August 31, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Yes. 13:58, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

New Leadership
I have decided to step down from the leadership of Project Books due to real-life time restraints. I woud much rather see the project running smoothly than be at the helm. After talking with Insane we have both agreed that Whitestorm would make a good leader and they have agreed to take on the task of keeping the project running. I just want to say thank you to everyone for your hard work and for making my life simple and wish Whitestorm the best of luck. They will be choosing a new deputy in the next few days as Insane has agreed to this. That's about it really. =) 12:27, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, goodbye Sandy. *hug* And congratulations to Whitestorm! You deserve this. 13:58, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I am saddened by Sandy's decision, but of course, real-life commitments have priority over hobbies, especially virtual ones. Sandy, I would like to thank you for all the great work you did for Project Books and for the wiki in general, and I hope you will still drop by now and then - or even return when you will have more time. Good luck for Whitestorm for his new position. 18:40, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry Helix, but words can only bridge a gap for so long, no matter how heartfelt. I'm not leaving the wiki, rather handing over my responsibilities as quietly as I can and with minimal fuss. Think you can get rid of me that easily? x
 * Thank you Ice, *hugs* 18:47, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks everybody! :) I am really excited to become the leader of this project, and I hope I can continue to keep this project running smoothly, as Sandy did. 20:27, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Icestorm will be the new deputy of Project Books! :) 21:31, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Woah, really? =D Thank you, Whitestorm, I'm very honoured and happy. I'll try my best to be a good deputy. 21:34, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations Whitestorm and Icestorm! 21:47, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

OMG I'm stopping in to say hi, and WOW! The two storm's made it!! :D good luck, and remeber whitestorm, when I re-join, your going to add me in!!! 23:40, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * lol, yes. And okay, Whitestorm or me will add you in =) 01:32, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Fading Echoes - Silver Nomination
The Fading Echoes article is well expanded. The other pages are fine, I think this article is worthy of silver status. 22:21, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

It needs a citation for Dovepaw and Lionblaze being on the cover. Other than that, it's great! 22:29, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * The author, illustrator, publish date, cover cats, and some of the trivia needs citations. I'm not sure that there is any praise available yet but it's best to be sure and the detailed plot summary looks really long. Overall it's a good article though and almost ready for silver in my opinion. 22:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Darn you Sandy... you took all the things I was going to say. :D Anyway, if you are planning on including the cliffnotes and gallery, the end of the cliffnotes could use some work, and some more pictures need to be added to the gallery. I'll try hunting for the citations and pictures. However, I will be of no use helping with the cliffnotes. 23:40, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, old habits die hard. I believe there was an agreement a while back that in order for a main book page to be graded silver, the cliffnotes and gallery must also be at that standard and graded as well. 05:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Gallery is OK, there are no more pictures to add as there were no other releases or translations. Cliffnotes need expansion, especially chapters 12-23. 11:03, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright. I shall work on those chapters right now. 16:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Jacket Designer Question.....
I know that I "quit the project", but that doesn't stop me from asking a question. Should the books template (the charcat for books) be fixed so that it shows the Jacket Designer? Like under Cover Artist, cover/jacket Designer? Just curious.......Tawny (Talk) 23:48, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they should. 01:32, September 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Done. Sorry, I assumed it had been else I would have got it sooner. All that is needed now is the information for each book. 17:22, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Please forgive me. I meant to do that, but I have been very busy... :( Anyways, thanks Sandy. 01:01, September 7, 2010 (UTC)