Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

Character Descriptions

 * Per request from Bramble, I have decided that as soon as possible, we should add citations for character's descriptions. The reason is that often new users or anonymous users add false descriptions, or people disagree about descriptions and get into edit wars- and often a false description gets left on a page, and then when people from PCA are looking to make a picture of that cat, they make it of the false description- and by the time they realize it's too late. I know it would be impossible to get a citation on all the articles right away, but it's something to start doing if you're already citing things. Cool with you guys? Insane Batteries not Included  02:44, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah!I'm in project charart,so I'd understand from both sides.I agree fully! '''FirePelt 00:45, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, though I'd like to apologise for sparking Bramble off with this idea and thereby creating more work for PC ^_^ Sandy  wishes you a great Christmas!  18:01, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Lol Sandy, don't worry about it, it makes sense anyways. And I can totally understand your frustration when you realize you just spent days working on a charart and it was the wrong color :( Insane Batteries not Included  18:49, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I un-archived this in case some people have not seen it yet. Skyfeather  '95 17:23, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Good, because that happened to me. :(-- :) Mousetalon And A Mousey New Year!!!!! |undefined 18:48, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Join Please?
Could I please join? (hope i'm posting this in the right place)

Sure, you can join. But remember, always sign your post with four tildes like this ~. Insane Batteries not Included  13:57, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Ancients

 * I've noticed on the cats who are ancients (Fish Leap, Dove's Wing) that their name is under the heading 'Training to be a Sharpclaw.' This really stretches the template, so perhaps it can be shortened to 'In-training Sharpclaw?' It's a small deal, but it bothers me. :) Skyfeather  '95 06:17, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the book supplies a name for ancient apprentices, "Softpaws". You can change any instances to that :) Insane Batteries not Included  13:57, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Okay will do. I think that was mentioned in Dark River, or whenever Fallen Leaves entered the tunnels. Skyfeather  '95 23:23, December 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * One more thing: Should their appearance be classified under 'live books' or 'dead books'? Since technically they appeared as alive in Long Shadows, not from like StarClan or anything where it would be put under dead books. Skyfeather  '95 23:27, December 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hm, that's debatable.. I'd say live for Long Shadows because Jayfeather sort of went back in time to when they were alive, but dead for Fallen Leaves (since it was his spirit). Does anyone disagree, or...? <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  01:45, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

I've been looking at Categories recently, and I was just wondering, do we need catgories for the ancient ranks? (Sharpclaw, softpaw, etc.), or would we just put them in Warrior/Apprentice? Or not put them in any of those categories at all? What do you guys think? <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  14:53, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me. And I don't see anyone objecting to it. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 19:38, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerstar Tree
Looking at Tigerstar's family tree, half of the cats on there are only distantly related to him, when it should focus mainly on Tigerstar's descendants. It's also a bit hard to even find the cat your looking for at a glance. I think the tree would look a lot netter broken up into smaller pieces, like into a Tigerstar tree, obviously, Thistleclaw, and Adderfang, possibly even Speckletail. I'd be happy to make them if everyone agrees. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 06:48, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Bluestar • Tigerstar • Crookedstar • Graystripe 12:20, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

I'm also cool with that. I think there was another tree that was huge, Bluestar's, maybe? Do you think that one should be broken up as well? (It already has a few trees that overlap, like Crookedstar's, but... I dunno). 14:27, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get started on it. And I can take a look at Bluestar's as well. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 17:42, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Bluestar's tree doesn't really need to be broken up, it just needed cats taken off that weren't related to her. It's more like the Bluestar/Snowfur tree. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 19:28, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, it looks good. And thanks for doing it, I would have helped but I'm on a computer that doesn't see the family trees in the same way, so if I do what looks right on this computer, it looks wrong to everyone else. I messed up a lot of trees by accident that way o.o <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  19:31, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

No problem. But on the Adderfang one, I didn't do all of the descendants otherwise it would been too big for the page and just hassle to make. Plus, on the descendants that were left out, the tree isn't on their page anyway. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 19:35, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Feature Article Nominations... For real!

 * I just checked and the backlog of feature articles Bramble was working through has been finished! Meaning, we can have a new one, starting tomorrow! We probably won't be able to vote that fast, but it's ok if we're a couple days late. So, which article should be featured? (It should probably be a silver rank article). Nominate away~ <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included

Nobody has any opinion? Personally, I'd go for Sol, or Berrynose, out of our Silver articles, dunno why, but we should pick one soon, cause we don't want to be halfway into the month before we change it... <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  14:42, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sol or brambleclaw, perhaps. Maplefern 14:45, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I nominate Leafpool or Tawnypelt. --Whitestorm17 18:05, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt has already been on the front page. Happy New Year! 21:42, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Woops! My bad, I would vote for Leafpool then. --Whitestorm17 03:05, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, guys, we need to pick one for vote, so, Sol, Brambleclaw, or Leafpool? <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  03:07, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Leafpool!!!! --Whitestorm17 03:14, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt was featured by some new user without permission from anybody. The Past Feature article template has been taken off, and Cinderpelt has already been put up by Bramble. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Bluestar • Tigerstar • Crookedstar • Graystripe 07:06, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw! Happy New Year! 15:45, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking Sol seeing as he's had a more major part in recent books. It would be nice to feature a non-Clan cat as well. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  15:57, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Frostfur, Brindleface, Robinwing and Fuzzypelt...
I was adding some description references on Robinwing (TC)'s page and decided to cite the family members revealed in BP at the same time. It says on her page that Fuzzypelt is her mate, and the same on his page, but on Frostfur's tree it reads 'father unknown'. I haven't been able to find a reference for them being mates and was wondering whether anyone else knew whether Fuzzypelt is or isn't their father and Robin's mate. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  23:15, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

I'm trying to see if I can find a page where it's mentioned, but so far I've seen Fuzzypelt and Robinwing definetly spending time together, but I think it was one particular page that it was mentioned he and Robinwing were mates... I'll keep looking. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 23:33, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks Sky =) Sorry I'm a pain. It's just either the tree needs changing or the pages. Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  23:42, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

It's fine, Sandy. Hm, I can't find the page but let me check one more thing really fast before I give up. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 23:52, December 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, on Vicky's facebook she posted that Ravenpaw and Dustpelt are the kits of Robinwing and Fuzzypelt.This is where all of the questions/answers are posted. This leads me to believe that he did father Frostfur and Brindleface, but unless it can be cited... <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 00:17, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, That should be a good enough source to post, right? Still, something makes me not want to post it, but I suppose that's solid enough. Ravenpaw and Dustpelt don't seem like brothers though >.> I'd think Ravenpaw was an only kit... <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  04:15, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, we can cite it that it was revealed on by Vicky on her facebook. And apparently Dustpelt did everything he could to deny the fact that they were brothers. And since that can be cited, I'll go ahead and add it the pages^^. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 05:21, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I just realized that Robinwing being Dustpelt's mother is major incest, considering Brindleface would be his sister and her kits were Ferncloud and Ashfur... Should we keep adding this to the pages, or take it off? <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 05:40, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean to intrude on the conversation, this is totally Sandy's or Insane's to answer. But as for me, I just don't think it looks right. I still don't think that Redtail is Sandstorm's father, even though Viki herself comfirmed it. I'd delete it all if I were you--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 05:45, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

You're not intruding, you have just as much right to discuss it as anyone ;D Yeah, though, it is incest, but recently, a lot of the family connections being revealed (even in books) have made slight to major incest... o3o As I said, it doesn't seem right to me, I bet Vicky just made it up on the spot when being asked (which kinda annoys me, but I guess she's the writer). Personally, I'd rather not put it up, but if you guys want to, I won't stop it. <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  14:35, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we should put any incest up (like Vicky keeps saying Willowpelt and Patchpelt are Graystripe's parents but their siblings), but if it makes sense some of the things Vicky says then we should put it up. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 19:29, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Pardon me, I know I'm not a member of PC, but I'd like to say something. In the feral world, the animals don't particularly care too much if they're related; the chief goal is to survive and reproduce. Even among humans, it used to be common custom to marry your cousin until popular culture shut it out. What I'm saying is that among the cats, they're not going to be too picky about who they mate with, if it means survival of the species and kits. And Graystripe didn't particularly care that Silverstream was RiverClan, did he?

Also, Vicky is the author. Whatever she says goes. We can't just pick out the things she says that make sense and ignore the things that don't. We're an encyclopedia; we state the facts, whether they're crazy or not. If she decides to blow up ThunderClan, then we have to put it here, even though we'd be like "....What?" Of course, it's all up to you, Insane. You are the leader of this project. Your decision. -- Bramble -sama  04:24, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

...Nyeh! I don't like making big decisions. You're right, though, Bramble, it's strange but she's the writer, so she may as well have put it in a book, for our purposes, since we have been using interviews as sources before. I guess we can update the family trees with this, even though it's... odd :P <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  15:31, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, there's another problem, on Dustpelt and Fernclouds' kits' pages, do we list Dustpelt as their father and Great Uncle, or just their father? <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  15:42, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Your right Bramble, but I don't think that that was Vicky's intent though, I think she just got confused. It should be listed once I think, under father. It's like on Birchfall's page, Whitewing is only listed as his mate and not his cousin. We don't really need to show the cat twice on the same page. <font color="#00C957">Skyfeather <font color="#00C957" style="background:white;"> '95 17:24, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Keep in mind guys, if Dustpelt and Ravenpaw were Robinwing's kits, that would mean that Frostfur and Brindleface are their older siblings. Ferncloud and Ashfur are Brindleface's kits. So, Dusty would Fern's uncle. I know that Birchfall and Whitewing are second cousins, but that's more distant than uncle and neice. And I think BirchxWhite mating and being second cousins was pure accident. Okay, and unregistered contributer, you're right about cats mating on instinct. At first, the Erins made it like that, the queens in the nursery in Itw probably had more than one mate. But as the series progressed, they figured out that the fans wanted the couples to be based on accual love. Graystripe LOVED Silverstream, that's why he didn't care she was from a different clan. True love people, TRUE LOVE!!--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 18:13, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Request to join
I recently had a fellow editor invite me to join, and I am posting this to simply ask: may I join? --Whitestorm17 23:17, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I will add you. <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  04:15, January 1, 2010 (UTC)