Warriors Wiki talk:World

Citations on the Events Timeline
Alright, I need to point this out.

Half of the Events Timeline is made of pure assumption.

A lot of the citations say something like "the river was icy" to proove that a cat was born in the winter, when rivers can be icy in late autumn and early spring. I see a bunch of citations without any page numbers listed.

For instance, citation #4: "Thistleclaw, Sweetpaw, and Rosetail are born two moons after Bluekit and Snowkit, making it late Newleaf when they're born" We don't know it was the first moon of Newleaf when Bluekit and Snowkit were born, and thus can't substanciate that Thistlekit and his siblings were late newleaf.

There are almost no normal citations on this page consisting of book and page number only.

I think that the citations on this page could really use some investigation and revision. Basically, the entire page needs to be revised. And that falls to this project to take care of. 20:33, June 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * At the absolute least the fact that this page is conjecture-based rather than provable fact based needs to be addressed at the top in a warning box styled thingy. Half of that page probably isn't even correct, because it's mostly guesswork, and conjecture has a tendency to be proven wrong when better information (or actual fact) comes to light. The article needs a definite review to make sure every citation has a page number that at least proves the source of the conjecture, if not conjecturing being outlawed (as it is on the /rest/ of the wiki) or rules for the exception being written and outlined on the articles talk page (to clarify that this article does not comply with "no proof-no inclusion" rules). 20:37, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

I agree it needs kind of a revision. I've been talking to teldy about that for a while and finally got the example for what I was telling her about here. I still need to make a template for the double cites so it's easier, and make a minor edit to the reflist template so it's able to have group names, but it gives you a basic idea at least. 21:26, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Also on the topic of the Events Timeline, I'm just curious, will a new timeline be made for the next series of books? It'll be a bit far flung from the current timeline to include unless we're told specifically how many years pass between the beginning of the Clans and Crookedstar's Promise. 22:59, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

So are we going to rebuild the whole thing or try to find correct citations that actually say what season it was? Either way, I can help with that. --Starry Hawk My Talk!  23:04, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

That's a good "template" Paleh, I think it could work once it's ready. And Starry, we are basically going to revise the page and fix the citations with page numbers etc. 09:31, 04, 06, 2012

Hey, it's me. I was checking in on the wiki and I naturally came to PW. :) I would like to point out that the Detailed Events Timeline has appropriate references for Crookedstar's Promise and Bluestar's Prophecy (I hope :)) and that you could take some of the references from there for those two books. Thanks, 04:03, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Good point Squirrel (and good to know you're doing okay :)) any correct references on either timelines could help with fixing the references for the opposite timeline. 08:59, 14, 06, 2012

So are we in agreement that the timeline should be changed? I've finished the cite in a cite template, and Lightning has helped make the reflist template work, so everything's ready to start changing the page if we all agree. 06:13, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I think we should make a start on this. 02:38, 30, 06, 2012

I agree too. =3 06:14, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

SkyClan - Silver Nomination
SkyClan is a good article because it's long and has a lot of detail and information. Comments? 19:48, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Finish After the Flood. 03:19, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 18:28, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Can you add a couple of more cites to the In The Gorge section? 18:48, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

...Eh...do you mind telling me what sections? I think it's fine, but, if you agree. 22:15, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Personally I think more cites could probably be added to the very end of that section, after it says Skyrock is much he Skyrock is like ThunderClan's Highrock. there's no cites after that point, and I believe it could use some. Also maybe before It lists the locations. *is a n00b at giving critique on nominations* 06:16, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and also, look through the cites and fix the improper ones? Many don't have page numbers, and some don't even have books. 06:21, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 16:35, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Could you add references to "Further Appearances", and if you choose to, break up some paragraphs in "History". 05:22, 04, 07, 2012

Can I actually just remove the Further Appearances section all together? It doesn't serve any use and the books there have already been listed. e.e 02:57, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

StarClan - Silver Nomination
I expanded Long Shadows and Sunrise, detailed a few more sections, and added some missing information. Comments? 20:22, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Can you expand The Forgotten Warrior, Night Whispers, and Fading Echoes any more? 20:25, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Can you expand Into the Wild and Dawn a bit more? Jun 26, 2012; 21:36pm

Into the Wild and Dawn are fine, because StarClan isn't mentioned much in Into the Wild and they basically abandoned the Clans in Dawn. However, I did expand The Forgotten Warrior, Night Whispers, and Fading Echoes. 22:14, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Can Sunrise be enhanced/expanded at all? 16:48, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

No. They don't appear anymore. 16:36, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

This looks great Icey. :3 CBV? 02:12, 30, 06, 2012

Vote is up! 04:31, 04, 07, 2012

Unique Battle Skills - Silver Nomination
I cited everything awhile ago, and the things that aren't cited I'm looking for cites right now. Comments? 04:56, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

I added cites to the rest of the article. 05:10, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Add a few references to the introduction of the article if possible. 02:32, 30, 06, 2012

I added one that was most like what the introduction said, but I didn't see anymore. -- 17:44, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

By any chance could you add a reference to the introduction to the Speed and Agility Battle moves heading? 05:08, 04, 07, 2012

Yes, I can, and I did. =) -- 06:08, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Queen - Silver Nomination
It needs a few more cites, and I'm working on adding that in, but overall, it seems like a good article. Comments? 16:53, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

You stole my nomination >:| xD  Just fill in those cite tags with references, otherwise great job! 04:44, 04, 07, 2012

Tunnelers - Silver Nomination
Doesn't seem like there's a lot of things wrong with it. Comments? 16:54, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Can you add a few more references to the Education section? 04:12, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

SkyClan Territory - Silver Nomination
I added cites, but I don't see much else. Comments? =) 06:05, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Add soem cites to "Location" under Geography, and possibly a few more History. 03:04, 05, 07, 2012

Finished. -- 22:11, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Limits on the amount of nominations
'Kay sorry guys but one nomination per user is quite enough. I didn't mind two, but three and now four is getting out of hand. One nomination is good. Objections? 06:11, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

I think we should add it to the guidelines, because when I first joined the project I was looking all through the guidelines for how many nominations you can have. Sorry, if this was because of me. 06:42, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Yea, it makes sense to me. 14:50, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

It's no one's fault, I just want to keep users from nominating so much that they can't handle the work load and the nomination gets declined. And I'll add it to the guidelines if no one has a problem with it. ^.^ 15:33, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

That's alright. Since some users have more than one nomination up now, I don't think they should be declined just to the guidelines being changed, so I think they should stay up for now, but until they get approved/declined that user shouldn't take on another nomination. ;) 02:53, 05, 07, 2012

Join Request
Um, can I join please? :3 ❄Moss  ❄  15:31, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Please read the guidelines, welcome. 15:33, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

owo;;
Ohhey. I was in here before I took my little break xD Icy is making me rejoin so.. may I? owo 17:56, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Sure. c: Catch up on the guidelines. Welcome back Splook. 03:53, 06, 07, 2012

Horse ~ Silver Nomination
Me luffs horses<3333 Anyways, comments? 17:15, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

I think this needs the Description and Relation to Clan cats sections. 17:27, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Add in some links and possibly flesh out Crookedstar's Promise a little bit. 04:53, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Also, could you find some cites for the description of the animal? owo 04:56, July 7, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
Hello...may I join...this project seems fairly, easy.



17:36, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Course you can. Here are the guidelines. Welcome! 04:18, 07, 07, 2012

Thanks DJ :3 18:38, July 7, 2012 (UTC)