Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Archive 101

Reminder
Just a reminder to people who can archive tweak nominations - please wait 24 hours until the last vote if it has a consensus. 15:52, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

why is this on the talk page? is it a question? ❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:47, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

There is nowhere else I can put it. This is just a reminder since people do read the talk page. 20:50, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

I do once a week, could this be put in the announcments? ❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 21:03, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Just a question
Hi, I saw Littlecloud's alt mc got declined to the one month limit, and I don't get the point of that. Someone work really hard on an image - they work on it for a month! - and then it got declined? Why? What is the point of that? I'm asking because Feathertail's alt apprentice is nearing a month and I really don't want that declined. Something else I noticed - in real life, tabby she-cats have some ginger in their pelt. So if I'm making a tabby she-cat, am I allowed to add some ginger since this is how it works in real life? -- 07:32, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

In PCA the current default ruling is to make tabbies without a specified pelt color brown, so it’d be just that without any ginger. They’d only get that color if it’s cited. I personally wasn’t around for when the one month limit started, but I’ve always understood it to be a prevention method for someone holding a reservation for too long (which doesn’t let others try it) and also because it encourages people to upload promptly so that the page doesn’t stall, knowing they have a lose limit. Which, one month is more than enough time to complete a project in almost any case, if you keep on top of updating it

First thing: I'm reuping almost every day, and it got CBAed three times if I'm right, it's not like I'm barely uploading it. Second, sorry that it wasn't clear what I meant about tabby she cats. I meant that brown tabby she-cat aren't just brown, they're brown with some ginger and their pelt. I'll link a pic if I'll find one, the she-cat I wanted to take a picture of won't let me do it.-- 14:52, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

We already have more than enough "realistic" standards for our art, despite the series itself being highly unrealistic. While it's good that people are paying attention to genetics, it really isn't necessary to force even more realism upon PCA; it takes away from the creativity when some of us are unable to make hyper-realistic patterns as it is.

As for the one month ruling... while I would be okay with making exceptions, generally the rule itself is fine. Otherwise, we'd have people intentionally hoarding images for months at a time while others don't get a chance to work on it. ​​​

I tryed to re-up mine, whenever I could, and altho I think it was fair for it to be diclined, I think that kits (and possibly apprentices) could like a week more, because they are newer. Or maby it could be if you re-up often. but I think for newer people, who upload often, could get a week or so more. ❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:47, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, I actually kind of agree. Newer users seem to get shafted by this one month limit, even though they have the commitment. As long as they upload consistently, I think it'd be okay to extend the one month limit. The "they can't reserve for another week" after they're declined for one month kinda shafts them more. For newer artists, this limit does feel against them. —

I would be more than happy to see the one month rule extended for users who work hard on their chararts and reupload consistently. Their hard work should not go to waste because they could not get it finished and approved by the deadline. The one month rule should be absolutely be implemented for warriors and up, and I think we can be more lenient for kits and apprentices. PCA shouldn't be about meeting deadlines, it should be about improvement and development. People who strive to improve should be rewarded. 02:59, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I'm bringing back the subject of the tabby she-cats. I'm not stating we should tweak any tabby she-cat to have some ginger - definitely not - I'm just asking if I upload a tabby she-cat with ginger in her pelt, am I allowed to do that. And also, another thing in cat genetics. Again, I'm not stating we should do every cat like that, I'm just pointing this out. When she-cats are ginger, they're usually very pale ginger, looks something like Sandstorm. Of course if a ginger she-cat was mentioned to be dark, we should keep it like that, but if an allegiances only character was only mentioned to be "ginger she-cat" can we do her pale? -- 07:36, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Shade is always artist's choice. If the cat is only called ginger you're free to make the cat dark or pale ginger. Though for tabbies I'm not sure. Some ginger could be considered as a pale part but idk

I’ve seen many female tabby cats in my life and not once have I noticed any ginger unless she was a tortoiseshell tabby. My neighbors cat, for example, is a fluffbum of a black (brown with dark stripes) mackrel tabby and she has absolutely no trace of ginger on her. So ginger on tabby cats should be exclusively on tortoiseshell tabbies; if a character is described as a tabby, there should be no ginger (unless its a ginger tabby lmao). Tabby =/= tortoiseshell tabby. If you’re going for realism, a bit of gingerish colour on the nose is fine, and I’ll link examples when I get on my computer... I’m at work and its 4:26am rn lmao. 09:26, 02/5/2019

Honestly, gotta agree with above. I have a torbie myself and she's the first case I've seen of pure ginger on a brown tabby. (Torbies are so pretty qwq) However, I have a feeling you're referring to gradients such as this, where it appears ginger with light or as highlights. Or possibly the markings on a brown tabby's face. As far as I know, it is okay to add features like that to a brown tabby charart, since all tabbies generally have a lighter muzzle and lighter eyes. David's art comes to mind, as I know they will add lighter markings on cats cited as just tabbies. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's not considered ginger, just tabby markings, but that may not be what you're referring to. —

Echo that's precisely what I was getting at, thank for providing those examples 22:11, 02/5/2019