Warriors Wiki talk:World

Events Timeline - Silver Nomination
I'm not sure whether we're supposed to nominate articles or not...but I'll nominate this. I think it looks fine. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 21:40, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's wonderfully done, but there can still be more information added to it. Bluestar's Prophecy, for example, which is a pretty big job. Still, not making it silver doesn't mean it's not good. Perhaps I'll go through BP and try and sort out the seasons and such. -- Bram ble  19:35, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

i have something to help you: Bluestar was born in Newleaf and apprenticed during Leaf-fall. → •Maple  fern•  ←  18:12, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Helix? Has this been updated enough? I can't tell because I don't the PO3 or OOTS series. Perseuς | Perseus ,  Thou art not the hero | Thou art not the hero  08:48, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have those either, but the seem OK, I double checked with the info on this wiki and the browse insides. Fading Echoes is missing though. Helix 18:50, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Fading Echoes is the most major thing missing. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 19:48, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Anybody working on this? Perseuς | Perseus ,  Thou art not the hero | Thou art not the hero  10:57, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

I added Fading Echoes but I think we should at least get a rough timeline for Bluestar's Prophecy up... that would really make it stand out. I'm willing to help try and sketch out the timeline (so to speak) if help is needed.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 14:51, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that'd be a great help. बंदर  को पकड़ो !!!  05:01, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'd be willing to help too. I have my BP in my room. . . somewhere. . .  Mo us  et  al  on  !!  Here comesSUMMER!  20:31, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

I cannot help unfortunately - I don't have the book. Those who have it should maybe work together to draft it up. Helixtalk 03:48, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

It's totally ready. It has my vote!  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  23:16, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, we need Bluestar's Prophecy done and I think it will be ready. Icefall Icy Winds 21:04, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, didn't notice that!  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  21:56, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Added as much as I could from the browse inside. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 08:54, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Should we add in some of the events near Into the Wild or Bluestar's Prophecy that's on BOTS? Sky wish  I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 22:58, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Willowpool, could you explain what you mean? Lightning talk 07:45, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think she means the events that are before or after Into the Wild and Bluestar's Prophecy that are mentioned in BOTS. Willowpool, is that what you were trying to say? 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 22:43, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, like...umm wouldn't the Lightning Strike with Dustpaw, Tigerclaw and Longtail place somewhere near Into the Wild? Sky wish  I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 02:53, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's BOTC', not BOTS. And in my opinion, it should be Between Bluestar's Prophecy and Into the Wild, though that looks a bit too long... Lightning talk 10:11, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

How could we make it shorter? Between Into the Wild, Bluestar's Prophecy, I was thinking...but that doesn't really make sense. ♥Ice shine★  22:04, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone going to work on this? ♥Ice storm★  21:17, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Night: You're right BOT'C' or else it'd be Battles of the SLANS,lol. if I can, I'd do it myself Willow pool "Let's look for donuts in the wilderness!"  00:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Events Timeline - List
Originally, I planned the Birth / Death list in the Events Timeline to include only major characters so that the table could be overviewed easily, instead of inflating it with large lists (the focus is on presenting the events, not the births / deaths). However, I see that people tend to add minor characters to it as well. So I guess we should decide a guideline for it, to prevent a kind of "edit warring": I prefer the first option, but I'd like to hear your opinions as well.  Helix talk 16:48, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Add only major characters, and make a separate lists for all births / deaths (or simply use the Nursery / StarClan pages); OR -
 * Add all (or most) characters

I agree with you about the first option. ♥Ice shine★  16:50, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be cool if we kept this one as a more general one (like option 1) but then worked on another timeline that would go moon by moon and be very detailed. It'd be a large project but it would be pretty cool and definitely be something unique to this site. insane brick'd 14:55, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think Insane's idea would be cool. We can keep this Events Timeline general, but if we created another one that was more detailed, that would be something fun to do. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 15:00, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that would be really nice, but I don't know if we are able to do it due to the very scarce reference to time intervals, seasons, ages and the like (even the "current" list was quite hard to create). So... it would be quite a challenge... but we love challenges, right? :) I can try figuring out the New Prophecy series, if you wish.  Helix talk 13:20, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, in the main series it's not as difficult as it may appear because Gatherings can be used as one-moon markers, the only tough parts are the timeskips between books/series, but we have that mostly figured out from this timeline. I actually started working on something like this on my computer a while ago - I think I got up to A Dangerous Path or The Darkest Hour. If people think this is actually a worthwhile idea I could show you what I have so far. insane brick'd 14:24, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

The only time skip in the original series I can think of in the original series is the three moon skip in Into the Wild. The time skips between series are easier: Original->TNP, five moons+Firestar's Quest+eight moons, TNP->TPoT, however many moons until Leafpool's kits are born+six moons, and TPoT->OotS, six moons even. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 21:50, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, Goldenpaw. ♥Ice shine★  15:54, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Insane: you have a point with the Gatherings. As for my opinion: yes, your idea is worthwile, and you know that I support any article that supplies information regarding any aspect of the Warriors series. Thanks! :)  Helix talk 18:31, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I wrote up what I had so far here. it's informal and I may have missed some things, but it's just a quick draft. I was thinking we could use a format for the moon numbers similar to the BCE/CE format for years - Moon 0 being the moon that Rusty joins ThunderClan, and then negative moons would be before that. Just to simplify the numbers if we start adding history from before Into the Wild. When you do a timeline like this, it's really cool because you can see small details and even mistakes... like, did you know that Featherpaw and Stormpaw were apprenticed when they were only four moons old? XD insane  brick'd 12:57, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

That's great! Although, for months, I recommend go with "normal" names instead of numbers (like January, February... - or if we wish in-universe terms, Mid-Leafbare, Late-Leafbare...) as it helps the reader greatly to overview the seasons and years.  Helix talk 18:42, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say we should put the in-universe terms with the month names in parentheses. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 20:51, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should put the in universe terms, as Goldenpaw said. ♥Ice shine★  16:25, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

One of the only issues I can see with the draft while skimming is that there isn't the three moon timeskip after Firestar's apprenticed. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 06:10, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out that mistake, Goldenpaw, I'll fix it. And my only objection to using month names is that we don't know which month is which necessarily, since we only get the season from the books. Although it might be possible to figure out which is which by knowing that, for instance, the moon right before leafbare starts would be November. insane brick'd 13:22, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * It can be found out, in my opinion; there are hints like "early newleaf", "newleaf has just arrived" etc. It is enough to figure out a single month, and the rest will be automatically known.  Helix talk 13:27, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know all of the months, so I can help out with the article if you like. ♥Ice  storm★  12:16, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * So, is this discussion over? ♥Ice  storm★  21:34, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK so to conclude it, from the above discussion it seems there's an agreement about:
 * The Events Timeline will remain as a general overview, listing only major events and major characters. We will not list the births and deaths of minor characters
 * We will make a more detailed timeline (divided to months), time permitting
 * Kind regards,  Helix talk 06:40, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

So what will the page name be and will we use Into the Wild for a year 0, or use the years on the Events Timeline? I have the time to work on it. (Well, at least until the first week of August.) -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 00:16, July 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd say to use the years on the main Timeline, to avoid confusing members (but first, we should sort out BP for the main timeline... maybe there are more years there). 19:03, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Prey
The content drive, Prey, is not really getting much work on it done. We could have a great article if we all pitch in! One person can't do it alone. I have an idea on how to update book appearances, however. If we skim through a book and write down each page where a kind of prey is mentioned, then put it as a reference to the book in the book mentions section, we could have everything cited. For example, I did it for Fire and Ice. Here are three of the types of prey:

Rats- pages 3, 45, 67, 71, 72

Squirrels- pages 8, 104, 105

Mice- pages 9, 110, 119, 124, 134, 140, 146, 147, 150, 160, 166, 200, 234, 281, 287, 296, 297

Then you would make reference tags for them, like this for rats:

How's that? Echo star  Getting a tan 13:08, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Why can't we use the old reference tags, used on the character articles? ♥Ice shine★  15:53, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Do we wish to list every occurence when a prey is mentioned, or only more "memorable" events?  Helix talk 21:11, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I would say memorable events. ♥Ice shine★  22:09, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if we're doing references, shouldn't they be complete references, with every mention? Lightning talk 09:58, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure, really-- ♥Ice shine★  16:23, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

As long as they're references and not lists, I don't really think it matters. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 03:07, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Me either. ♥Ice storm★  21:35, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

River?
I was thinking last night about the rivers, and I was thinking that should we merge the two different articles (River Alba and River Chell) together, and call it lake territory and forest territory river. just a thought Tawny SMEASH 14:08, July 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Even if the cats refer to both of them as "river", they are entirely different locations and I do not see how can they be merged.  Helix talk 07:36, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think they can be merged, as Helix said above, they are both different locations. ♥Ice  storm★  21:43, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Dormice?
Do we really need a dormice section for prey? Wouldn't just mice work? Also, I don't remember reading anything about dormice. Tawny SMEASH 12:20, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think so. Wasn't it mentioned in the second series? I might be wrong, but I think the 6 cats ate one of those on their journey. ♥Ice storm★  12:25, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you... I think the prey page is making too many assumptions and needs to focus on what the cats would call these things. ie. mice, rats, frogs, pigeons, voles, water voles, shrews etc. Rather than differentiating between subspecies of these as no cat would know the difference anyway and there is no written proof anywhere that these species are correct... Just my thoughts. -- Sandy star 12:27, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

They're not the same thing, though. Mice are a specific genus, while dormice are a different family all together. I think we should just use the most general classification of the prey that only contains that type of prey on the Wikipedia link. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 19:06, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Sometimes the prey names and/or descriptions seem too. . . human. W   a  t  e  r   bender <font color="#009dff">MouseHRULES!   02:24, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Mouse is right. Twoleg language-ish XD <font color="Lime">Willow <font color="Lime">pool "Let's look for donuts in the wilderness!"  02:20, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

So, should we remove it from the article or keep it there? ♥Ice storm★  21:38, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Unless no one can find a book mention, we should keep it. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 21:54, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Diseases and Injuries - Silver Nomination
I nominated Diseases and Injuries for silver some time ago, but the contributors requested a full list of book mentions. I have added them now (see the Book Mentions list), and also some references; hope it's OK - in my opinion it qualifies for silver. Kind regards, <span style="background-color: #705EA0; -moz-border-radius: 12px 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Helix talk 20:36, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * And in mine. Especially as it has proved my sanity =) -- Sandy star 20:50, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I also believe it is ready. ♥Ice storm★  21:37, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Kit - Silver Nomination
I expanded the Kit article and added references as needed. It is a short article, but covers everything. <span style="background-color: #705EA0; -moz-border-radius: 12px 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Helix talk 19:38, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's ready. ♥Ice storm★  02:08, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Barley's Farm - Silver Nomination
Seems I won't rest until I make all World articles silver. :) I expanded Barley's Farm as needed and in my opinion it qualifies for silver grade (although I don't have the manga volumes - someone who has them should check if the information in those sections is complete). <span style="background-color: #705EA0; -moz-border-radius: 12px 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Helix talk 20:10, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. I expanded the heart of a warrior. Other than that, it's good. ♥Ice storm★  02:06, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Added more references. 08:49, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see anything else wrong. Comments before it goes up for vote? 19:23, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Warrior - Silver Nomination
Warrior looks like a good article to me. I tried to expand it. Although it is small, I support it as a article for silver nomination. ♥Ice storm★  02:20, July 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Some references should be inserted (e.g. definition). I will take care of it later this week (if no one else does until then) 19:23, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I did a minor expansion and marked some sections where references should be added. 20:44, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Added as many references as I could. Yes, it is a bit short, but covers everything. I support it for silver, although I'd like to hear other opinions as well. 11:25, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sunningrocks
Hi, I know I'm not part of this project, but I just saw the Sunningrocks page, and I think a lot of work needs to be done on it. I thought I should inform this project, because the page on Sunningrocks is an aspect of the Warriors World, and this project specialises in this. I would like to help with the build up of content to this page, if thats okay. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Tansyfoot. 15:36, August 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Of course, everyone can edit and expand any page, and they are welcome to do so - this is a wiki, after all. :) The article is mainly OK, but could use some expansion, and references must be inserted. 18:35, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Clan Infobox
As discussed and agreed here - I created the infobox for the Clans and put it on the article of every Clan. See the WindClan page for instance. If you have suggestions for it, or would like it some other way, please tell. It contains some red links - those will be fixed when we create the relevant pages (as discussed). Kind regards, 19:02, August 11, 2010 (UTC)