Warriors Wiki talk:Books

August FA
Onhonhonhon...it is never too early to start one of these. >:D

Last month, we chose Battle of the Clans...so I'd rather stay away from a field guide this month. ya know, to mix things up a bit. CP and Hollyleaf's Story were both brough up last month. Any other suggestions? 04:50, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I think CP might still have some cliffnote issues. As for HS, I'm up for that one. I know it's good, since I worked on that entire article in like...a few hours. 8D ( jeez, August already...? Wow....  )

Maybe Dawn? CP would be good too o3o 04:57, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'd be okay with Dawn too, but we just did a main arc novel not too long ago. So, why not try for something else this time?

I'd like Dawn or The Elder's Concern. 05:10, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to see a short story as a FA. 13:59, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

A short story would work just fine. x3 I like The Elder's Concern and Hollyleaf's Story a lot. 14:01, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Novellas are good. I guess The Elder's Concern would work. 18:03, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Hm...I'd like to see ''Brightspirit's Mercy. But, I like Hollyleaf's Story and The Elder's Concern.'' 16:05, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'd like Hollyleaf's Story to be the FA (Novellas - woot!), but I also like Brightspirit's Mercy. 17:01, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I totally forgot about Brightspirit's Mercy....I really like HS, but BM can work as well. 20:02, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to see BM as the FA. If others disagree, then HS is fine. 15:53, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

I totally agree with BM or HS =) 16:54, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Short stories! Both are great choices. 17:27, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

I've talked to Skye about this - and we're going with Hollyleaf's Story, but Dawn and Brightspirit's Mercy can be saved as choices for next month. Anyways, comments before vote? 15:44, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Vote is up! 03:21, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Crookedstar's Promise - Quote Nomination 2
I would like to change CP's quote, I feel it spoils the whole book, here are some more quotes I found, owo


 * 1. "Together we can rebuild anything, except cats who have drowned trying to save bits of twig."


 * Shellheart to Brightsky Page 3
 * 2. "Kits born into a storm like this one are destined to be great warriors. It's just a shame that they can't both be leaders of RiverClan."


 * Shellheart about Oakkit and Stormkit Page 8


 * 3. "If he'd of stayed in camp he'd never have had the accident. Then he wouldn't be the ugly mess he is now. He's still be my handsome young warrior."


 * Rainflower to Shellheart Page 51


 * 4. "Your new name may describe your face, young kit, I know you are as true and loyal as any warrior. Bear your name bravely as a kit and nobly when you become a warrior."


 * Hailstar to Stormkit Page 54


 * 5. "Your path is not an easy one. But StarClan would never have given such a hard path to a cat who wasn't strong and brave and loyal."


 * Mapleshade to Crookedkit Page 79


 * 6. "You must promise me, that you will be loyal to your clan above all other things. What you want for yourself is nothing compared to the needs of your Clan. Nothing, remember? Do you make that promise?"


 * Mapleshade to Crookedkit Page 116


 * 7. "Let them guide your paws onto the right path."


 * Brambleberry to Crookedpaw Page 195


 * 8. "You just want to have kits with Crookedjaw."


 * Beetlenose to Willowpaw Page 247


 * 9. "Will StarClan want her like they wanted Brightsky?"


 * Loudkit about Ottersplash Page 293

I like 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. 05:12, July 13, 2012 (UTC) I like four. 12:42, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Quote 6 seems beneficial to the article, as it describes the title as well as the book: the promise Crookedstar made to Mapleshade. Thus, quote 6 is earning my vote. 16:01, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

I like number four. 16:06, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

I like 2, 3, 5, and 7. 16:11, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

2, 4, and 6 are my favs. 00:49, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Hold on here - I think you could get the longer version of Quote 6. Just add on, "Nothing, remember? Do you make that promise?" 21:48, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

2, 4, 6 <3 23:33 Sun Jul 15

I added it on 14:15, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 16:28, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Mistakes in the Warriors Series - Silver Nomination
I hope it's OK to nominate this. owo But I added cites to everything that wasn't cited. Comments? 06:33, July 14, 2012 (UTC

You did a good job on the article, but I was thinking of a template for it. 17:28, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

You should check whether all the cites are real, being that there are a lot of false cites, and this would probably be the home of it. I'm sorry for saying this, and blame me for all frustration caused by doing this. 21:44, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this because, I'm going on vacation Monday and I won't be able to work on it there, so yeah. Just when I was half-through checking all of the cites xDD  04:48, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'll take over on this. I could use a good citing spree.

Okay, I went through and fixed up some cites, and changed a few things. I can't check for errors/accuracy with the Tigerstar and Sasha novels, since I don't own them. If someone could check for me, I'd appreciate that.

And Yet Another Enter the Clans Question...
Right, I see on Enter the Clans that there /are/ cliffnotes, but they are separate. But, there's also a cliffnotes page for Enter the Clans itself. Should we copy paste both the cliffnotes from each book onto that page, or tag it for deletion, as it does have cliffnotes? 17:27, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe we should just keep the Enter the Clans cliffnotes page and just give it two sections, one containing the cliffnotes of SoTC and another section for CoTC's cliffnotes? 10:15, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking. 21:44, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

I said to Icy before that we should just use the cliffnotes from both Secrets of the Clans and Code of the Clans, since they're basically the same thing...

I mean, should we use the same /page/, or keep the separate pages? 21:49, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Use the same page. We might not be using these for much longer anyways.

Okay. -gets to work- 21:57, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Enter the Clans ~ Silver Nomination
Looks good to me, everything's cited. Comments? 10:13, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Needs a publication list. Also, no offense, but I think you could've waited to nominate this article until we conclude what's to happen with the cliffnotes (that discussion up there^). 11:48, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Added. 11:56, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can you elaborate on the summary a bit? owo -- 04:41, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Working on this? 14:48, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Another Quote Idea
Hi guys, it's me again with another quote idea. Please don't shoot me, Cloudy, Leggy, Stoner  I was thinking...maybe we could have not a main quote, but some quotes in a section on book pages, like character articles? I've seen quotes that people struggle to choose for the main quote - and maybe these quotes don't have to describe the entire plot, but some points in the book. Just an idea, though. Thoughts? 16:13, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

I really don't think we need anymore quotes on the pages...this isn't a character page, where there are multiple books/novels/ect, to choose from. I think one quote on each page is fine...although that's just me. ^^;;

Although it's not a bad idea, I don't really think it's necessary to have more than one. 14:06, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with Cloudy. As Chez stated, it's not a bad idea, though. Howver, having a single, main quote seems more ideal for a book article to me. I don't believe that more quotes are really neccessary. 16:05, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah...we really just need a main quote to capture the essence of a book. I'd have to agree with Skye. 16:15, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter subpages
So I believe the other discussion was archived due to lack of discussion as well as being off topic from the actual discussion posed, but I'm here to bring it up again. So as of current, many I personally think all actually of the cliffnote pages lack the detail they were created for. In the earlier discussion, it was thought up that perhaps each chapter could have it's own subpage and Skye made a draft of what that subpage would look like. I think it's a pretty neat idea, thus I'm bringing it up again. I also believe we should have nominations for these so as the project can look each page over and make sure the formatting, detail, and all the specifics are in check. =3 01:16, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Ohai, 'Teldy. So nice of you to edit here. XD

Anyways, I agree with this, (since I'm the one that made the draft) and I, as well, think that each chapter should be individually nominated, since asking someone to work on well over 15 pages at once for some books would be extremely outrageous.

Now, what about a navigational method? Would we use a template, or something of the like matter? o.o

Lol, anyways, would something like this work? 02:44, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, yes, that would work. It's simple, sweet, and to the point. I'm assuming there would be a template for each book? ...since all books don't have the same amount of chapters...  lol, never mind. Didn't read the entire thing.

I agree with this...and the template you made, Teldy, would work well. I also agree that each page should be individually nominated. It makes much more sense this way... :3 02:58, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

I've stated my opinion before, and I support this idea. I like the navigation template, and I agree that each article should be individually nominated. If the book article was nominated along with each chapter, many would probably find that too much work and simply withdraw. 04:02, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Pft, asking someone to work on 15 pages at once isn't outrageous. I'd cherish that. But, anyways, I like the navigation template - it's better than what we have so far, and I also like the nominations idea. Thus, I'm supporting the idea in general. 14:45, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

A book idea
I was reading Russian sites today, and I learned that Into the Wild is called ''Be Wild!. ''So I propose that in the char book template we should add the different language names of books. 13:26, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

I forgot to add this in my original message, but the cite is, but you'll need a translate tool or the ability to speak Russian. 13:28, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

...Sorry, but I dissagree. We already have a page (Warriors Translations) that covers that, and there many different languages of the books - I think it would be too much to fit. 14:16, July 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wait, no, oops, not the warriors translations. xD. 14:42, July 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * I meant the publication history. I don't see a need to repeat information in articles... 14:43, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Disagreeing. As Stoner said, there's the publication history, and there's also the year that the book was released - users can go there and search the name. 14:46, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Forest of Secrets - Quote Nomination
Hi everyone, I'm here to nominate a quote change for Forest of Secrets. The quote now only has to do with one point in the book, and the plot has to do with all the secrets. Here are the quotes I think would fit better.

1)


 * This is the only way, Fireheart repeated to himself. He had to find out the truth. Not just for Redtail and Ravenpaw, but for the sake of his whole Clan. Tigerclaw had to be stopped...before he had the chance to kill again.

- Fireheart thinking about Tigerclaw, Ravenpaw, and Redtail, page 23.

2.)


 * Fireheart shook his head as he padded slowly after Cinderpaw. There was a deeply buried mystery surrounding these cats, and he was beginning to feel that it might be beyond his power to ever understand it.

- Narrator about Fireheart, Mistyfoot, and Stonefur, page 88.

3.)


 * "He told me he found them in the forest, as if they'd been abandoned by rogue cats or Twolegs. But I'm not stupid, and my nose has always worked just fine. The kits smelled of the forest all right, but there was another scent underneath. The scent of ThunderClan."

- Graypool revealing the truth about Mistyfoot and Stonefur's origins to Fireheart, page 69.

4.)


 * "Was it possible that Bluestar's kits hadn't died all those moons ago? Could it be that Mistyfoot and Stonefur were the ThunderClan leader's lost kits?"

- Narrator about Bluestar's kits, page 211.

I like these quotes, but if needed, I'll get some about Tigerclaw. \My favorite quotes are 3 and 1. Opinions, anyone? 15:10, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

3 is brilliant. 15:21, July 22, 2012 (UTC)