Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Canon
Hey so I found this page floating around with no project on it, and it seemed more PB oriented than anything so I thought to pop it in here. Ik it's with the category of Role Play Phenomenon, and everything else from there has been deleted, but... couldn't it be revamped? I wanted to pose the question here of whether it should be deleted like the rest of the category, or made a part of PB and revamped/ add new stuff and such. Thoughts?

Yea, I agree with that. It is information for the reader and it should be in PB. 14:55, 4/22/2017 14:55, April 22, 2017 (UTC)ggC1ND3R_STR1P3

Me too. It does contain many PB-related articles. --  17:35, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

I think it should be revamped and made part of PB. 16:14 Sun May 7

It looks like everyone supports the page being revamped. Any other comments? 23:34 Sun May 14

Okay, looks like everyone agrees to revamping it. How should we go about it? I say we keep what's there + add the facts that we now take stuff from Kates blog and Vicky + add cites for the definition of canon from wikipedia, and maybe include a dropdown or some kind of image/graphic/template depicting the series, the canon books, or just something else significant. Just something book related to tie it to PB.

Head's up, I got a nice idea for this, but I'm at work and can't type it up. I'll comment more after my doctor's appointment later. Just letting y'all know to hold off for a little bit so I can chime in.

OKAY a few days late, but sorry, things came up. I think we could revamp the page, but I'm not totally sure what exactly we'd be taking from Kate's blog or Vicky's Facebook pages? Would we take them saying what information is canon and all of that? Because honestly, it wouldn't hurt to at least mention the role play aspect, but mention that this is a place for strict canon information only? Having a definition of what canon is, what counts as a valid canon source, ect, would be an excellent idea. I'm not sure, though, exactly how big you'd want this page to be? We could actually tie it into all projects and just keep it as a general "canonical information" page, or something along those lines... it doesn't have to be just for PB if all projects can benefit from it.

Ah yeah, I meant saying on the page that we take info from Kate's Blog/Vicky's Facebook as canon, and all of that. It'd almost act as a cite guide, even though it isn't really one. I like the idea of tying it into all of the projects, but I also think it should be linked to one project in particular to receive a silver grade. Perhaps that project should be PR instead of PB, though, if we're including more real life aspects than not.

Yes, that's basically what I meant. Although, if we're going to shift this to PR, I would highly suggest having everything ready first, due to PR often being forgotten and too small to get maybe more than a comment or two. A page like this should...really have more than one or two agreeing comments and an actual discussion. Icy is also without a computer for a little while, so I'd suggest also going to poke her once you've decided what to do with it, that way she knows to comment. Does anyone have a rough draft of what they'd want it to look like, or are we going to follow the layout used on other pages?

Poking my head in and mentioning I am still without a laptop so please don't yell at me. But may I be messaged once you all have a good idea of where the conversation is going? I will not be able to check the Wiki as often. 02:35, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah of course we can message you :)^^ My idea for the format was a version of Warriors Books in that we have a blurb up top that says something like 'Canon is what is considered real.. etc. and is determined by x, y, or z' and that we have different sections and sub-sections for each topic. Those topics could be like what cites we take, specifically which wording of cites we take from Vicky's Facebook and Kate's Blog, and then what counts from the books, erin hunter chats, etc. and stuff.

~Ravenpaw's Farewell/Chapter 6 ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? -- Starling  spots  04:48, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

You mean to nominate a chapter right?

No, I think they meant to nominate the book article. 09:31, 6/27/2017

,,The article is gold status??

Sorry about that. I meant to nominate the chapter itself. Starling  spots  11:35, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

CBV?

Ahh I'm sorry this is so late, I wasn't able to look at this earlier.
 * Bella and Riley see Barley and are excited to see him again. "see" sounds redundant, maybe just say "Bella and riley are excited to see Barley again"?
 * "Ravenpaw affectionately tells him he knows how to motivate them to which Barley tells the small tom he is proud of him for doing this." I at first found it a bit confusing on who 'he' was.
 * "Bella is horrified watching her brother fall in, until he emerges with a fish in his jaws. He presents it to the loners and he and his sister eat it." If Riley presented the fish to the Ravenpaw and Barley then why are he and Bella eating it? Do you mean he showed the fish to them?
 * For the characters list: in the major section, the characters should be in order of when they appeared, so Barley should be last and Bella and Riley's order might be switched; also, it still says 'coming soon' for minor characters, so the minor characters subsection should be removed (I don't think there were any minor characters in this chapter?). 07:31 Mon Jul 3

Ravenpaw's Farewell/Chapter 7 ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? Starling  spots  17:44, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

CBV?
 * In the very first sentence:"The cats move on from spending the night next to the waterfall. They continue following the river, which begins to narrow." Imo these two sentences both sound choppy and would be better if combined, but that's totally your choice.
 * "The cats move on from spending the night next to the waterfall. They continue following the river, which begins to narrow. The cats walk in single file," 'cats' sounds redundant.
 * "Riley offers to investigate some gorse bushes. The others reach him to see he had found the bushes forming a small cave." I think these two sentences would also sound better combined, but again it's your decision.
 * "Riley and Bella are anxious the Clan won't accept them, and their uncle promises he'll take them home if that happens." imo 'but' would be more fitting since the first and second half of the sentence are kinda saying opposite things if that makes sense.
 * "The clouds covering the sky bring an early dusk. Ravenpaw decides to stop so they could find SkyClan tomorrow." I think these two also sound choppy and could be combined, but again your call. Also, I think it would be 'can' instead of 'could' to be in present tense? Not sure though...
 * "The black loner leaves the stream and smells a strong whiff of cats, both scents being warrior and kittypet." I'm a bit confused on what you mean by 'both scents being', do you mean he smelled both warrior and kittypet scent? If so, I think it would make more sense if you just said "...smells a strong whiff of cats, both warrior and kittypet."
 * "The kits fall asleep and the loner lies next to his friend" Since it had been a bit since Barley was last mentioned, I think it might be better to just say "Barley" instead of "his friend"; I don't think it would sound redundant like that either.
 * "Ravenpaw snarls at the intruders to leave them alone and approaches him threateningly." Do you mean 'them' instead of 'him', since it said 'intruders' (plural) earlier? Or do you mean he approaches Pasha - if so, I think it would be better to say something else instead of him, like 'the tabby kittypet' or 'the leader kittypet' or something.
 * "Barley stands next to Ravenpaw, and a ginger-and-white she-cat agrees with the tabby. He tells the small loner to get lost and is answered is a clout between his ears." Who is the 'he', and who is the 'small loner'?
 * For the major characters list, the characters should be in order of when they appeared, so I think Ravenpaw appearead before Barley since he's the PoV. Also, I think it might look better if you split the mclist into 2 instead of 1, but that's just my opinion, it's totally your choice. :) 07:59 Mon Jul 3

Bluestar's Prophecy/Chapter 36 - Silver Nomination
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CBV?

"The blue-gray she-cat replies that she knows what he means, Larksong has been telling her she should pair off with a cat, but before she says his name, she notices the hurt in Oakheart's eyes, and stops." The beginning of the sentence seems to be grammatically incorrect or something, I think there would need to be a conjunction before Larksong, or it would be a ';' or a ':' instead of a comma. 08:22 Mon Jul 3

fixed

Twilight/Chapter 17 - Silver Nomination
16:57, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Would you mind adding a quote and splitting the character lists? Also, I'm pretty sure the Important Events section is supposed to be a full header the same size as the chap. summary one and all, then 'Other' is a sub-header of that. I'm also not sure if the first bullet point you have under important events is really important enough to put, compared to what's been on other pages, but that's your call.

Done. 20:19, June 30, 2017 (UTC)
 * "She worries that, due to her breaking of the medicine cat code, that StarClan could refuse to talk to her." I think there's only supposed to be one 'that', so could you get rid of one of them?
 * "Leafpool had been shocked by this idea, but agrees to think about it." I think it should be 'agreed' not agrees, since it's in a flashback
 * "Leafpool complains that she is always there, but knows she is being unreasonable." It's a bit confusing on who the first she is so could you say something else to describe that it's Brigthheart instead? (also she's are a bit redundant in that paragraph as a whole, and the paragraph before)
 * "She says that she loves him so much, but she does not know if she should leave her Clan for him. " She is redundant.
 * In the 3rd-to-last paragraph (Thinking that her destiny lays elsewhere,...) she is redundant.
 * In the last paragraph, could you link 'lake' to The Lake Territories or The Lake?
 * Brightheart should be on the mentioned characters list, and imo I don't think Cinderpelt was a major character but that's your call. 08:44 Mon Jul 3

Done. 17:20, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Bluestar's Prophecy/Chapter 3 - Silver Nomination
Credit to all the people who finished it before me, I just tidied it up and added a quote.
 * "Poppydawn had kitted four moons ago, giving birth to Thistlekit, Rosekit, and Sweetkit. Speckletail had kitted two moons ago, giving birth to Lionkit and Goldenkit. " "{character} had kitted {number} months ago giving birth to {kits}" is repeated in both sentences, could you maybe change the way one of the sentences is phrased so it's not redundant.
 * "The nursery is crowded, and Bluekit is feeling hot and squashed, so she leaves the nursery. " 'nursery' is redundant.
 * Bluekit has trouble climbing the ravine, but she makes it up and is excited by the large forest. This is a bit sudden since it doesn't say if Bluekit agreed to climb the ravine, but also I think it would be nice if you could describe in detail how Bluekit climbed the ravine because I remember that as being a noteworthy part of the book.
 * In the 2nd paragraph, maybe link "this law" to The_Warrior_Code?
 * Maybe link "Highrock" to Clan_Meeting
 * If possible, I think it would be better if you could add more detail to the whole chapter in general, but if not then it's fine. 09:07 Mon Jul 3

Turns out the chapter never even mentioned the code, it said he was guided by StarClan. Anyways, I practically doubled the length with details, so I hope this is good. (There's probably double and missing links in there, but I tried lmao)

Shattered Sky/Chapter 7 ~ Silver Nomination
Aww. . . Purdy's gone. So sad. ..

'restock' is redundant in the first two sentences, and can you perhaps split the mclist major and mentioned character lists in two?

fixed

Fading Echoes/Chapter 3 ~ Silver Nomination
Huge thanks to those who worked on this. :) 04:01, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

Could you go through once or twice and try to catch a few run-on sentences? There's some in there, and while I don't want to list them all, I think fixing a few would overall give the summary a more polished read.

Fixed! 20:08, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Midnight (Book)/Chapter 13 - Silver Nomination
20:25, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Midnight (Book)/Chapter 14 - Silver Nomination
01:50, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Outcast/Chapter 4 ~ Silver Nomination
Credits to whoever made the character list. Comments? 09:29 Wed Jul 5