Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Gallery Back Covers - Silver Nomination
I got all the books. All I need to do is rename the images to fit the Book Covers. 01:39, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Wow! Looks great! I actually nominated it bronze today and was hoping to make it silver, but you did better than what I could have done! 03:05, June 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's funny. I saw that it on the project page in the chart, and was about to change it, then I saw you already did. :3 03:30, June 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol, yeah! :P 20:43, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me. :D 15:44, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Should we be adding in Crookedstar's Promise (and the SkyClan ones, for that matter), since it comes out next week? And are these the back covers for the hardcover editions? Because the one I have for Outcast is different.  Law liet  Me ow 22:01, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess we should add those in anyway. There must be different versions of the back cover. Can you try to find a picture of the back cover you have online? Then we can see if Moonflight should add that in. 02:24, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

There must be two versions. Some versions have a book summery and others have a list of books. Some books have one, some have the other, and some might have both. So, we'll each have to search our books and scan them if necessary. 02:28, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

SquirrelFlame, this is the one that I have. I get most of my books in paperback, so I think they vary from the hardcovers. I can go through and check mine if I have to (since I have all the books up to Crookedstar's Promise, which I'll get sometime this week).  Law liet  Me ow 01:03, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Good idea. You check through yours, and see if they're the same. If not, you can add it in. 17:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, a lot of mine already match what is up there, aside from one or two paperbacks. But, it doesn't really bother me. 00:47, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I've looked, and this is missing a few covers. It's missing the one for Crookedstar's Promise and also the new SkyClan manga, The Rescue. What's going on with this? Is it still being worked on? 06:23, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

If not, I can take over. But let's wait for a day or two more. 18:29, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, it's been two days. Squirrel, if you want this, you make take it. 15:00, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'll go about fixing it. 19:34, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... I've been trying to get the back covers from the internet, but Crookedstar's Promise and The Rescue are fairly new books, so I can't get them. Help? 16:55, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Also, I found alternate versions for quite a few of the books, so where should I put them? Right nest to the other version? 17:02, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

If you can find the Harper Collins browse inside for them, then you should be able to screen shot it, and crop it to size. For alternate versions I would suggest that the main version should be the US edition (as with the front covers) and any alternates (eg. softcover, UK1, UK2) should be put under foreign language, or perhaps a new section entitled 'English alternate'. The question is: should the hardcover or softcover version be seen as the main version? 17:20, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should use the hardcover ones. After all, those are the ones that first came out, and often enough, the ones that people have. I know from Sunrise on, I have all hardcover, and all of the Super Editions I have are hardcover as well. 17:25, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

We need to fully figure out which covers are for which edition, and lay it down, because it's confusing me. 17:30, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Very good point. I have a rough time figuring out which ones are which, myself. However, it's not something I'm good at, so, Sandy, can you help us out a bit? 17:34, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I think I have a rough idea of which are the hardcovers and paperbacks. For example, for Midnight, the hardcover is this, and the paperback is this. Am I right? 17:38, July 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd have said the other way around myself... I can tell you with all certainty that of the ones on the page as it stands, ITW through Starlight are the US paperback versions. So ideally, these need replacing with the hardcover versions and then the paperback versions need moving to the bottom of the page alongside the UK versions. If possible it would be nice to get some more UK versions, both UK1 and UK2 as there are two editions, plus maybe some for other languages. I know Helice uploaded some French ones, but if possible we could try and get the Chinese or German versions etc. I think the main priority needs to be to get the US hardcover versions in place where possible for all releases up to this point. Then the page should be good enough for silver grade. I think getting foreign covers is gold grade work, personally. (: 18:15, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, got it. I'm going to be uploading a lot of images. This is the first time I feel as if I'm actually contributing to PB! :P I have the back cover of Crookedstar's Promise and I'm going to upload it on soon. 18:24, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone check to make sure I named the back cover of Crookedstar's Promise right? And also if I did the right stuff on the Gallery page? Also, I looked on HarperCollins for the back cover of the hardcover version of Into the Wild, but it matches the one already on there, so is that already hardcover? 18:31, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, since no one answered my question, I did what I could. Comments? 02:01, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry about that. Anyways, the back cover should be named "BK-SE-4". I'm sure you can ask Misty or one of the others to change it, or reupload it underneath that file name, and delete the other. Also, you need the back of CP without the dust cover. The back of SkyClan #1 is missing. Is there an alternate for Dawn? And, also, the alternate hardcover and paperback ones are bothering me. I have a paperback version, with the same back as the "hardcover" version. Okay, I'm done now. XD 02:14, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Done, I asked Mistystar to rename everything and she did. Sorry to keep bothering you guys, but how do I get the back cover underneath the dustcover for Crookedstar's Promise? And for the SkyClan one, both the back covers are there, so what do you mean? I'm still looking for the Dawn alternate though. 19:23, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, found the Dawn alternate. 19:57, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oi. Should have been more descriptive. SkyClan manga #1, I meant. The Fourth Apprentice and Fading Echoes have had paperback volumes released, so remember to grab those in your spare time as well. I'm not sure how to get 'em on there though, because that's not my strong point... 00:30, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, I'm so good at this... The Rescue doesn't have a Browse Inside yet, or at least I think so. So I can't get the back cover of that. And I can't find the paperback versions of The Fourth Aprentice or Fading Echoes either. Can anyone point me to a useful link or something? ☀  S q  u  i  r  r  e  l  F  l  a  m  e  2  9 ☀   Finally   Cooling   it   Down  19:34, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Link for the paperback browse inside for TFA. You can take a screen shot of the back cover. Link for paperback browse inside for Fading Echoes. I can't find one for The Rescue, but I'm going to buy the book tomorrow, so if you can wait, I can upload you a scanned back. =) 03:05, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, you make me look stupid. I can't believe I didn't check HarperCollins! :P And thanks a ton, for offering to get me a scanned back! :) ☀  S q  u  i  r  r  e  l  F  l  a  m  e  2  9 ☀   Finally   Cooling   it   Down  21:27, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. It happens. I just happened to be checking out HarperCollins anyways. Also, I preordered The Rescue today, and should have it by next week. So, if you don't find a back by then, let me know, and I'll still scan it for you. =) 02:15, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sign of the Moon - Silver Nomination
I think I did a pretty good job with Sign of the Moon, what do you guys think? I think it's summarized fairly well. 01:04, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, but the Plot Summary should be expanded, and it needs a publication list. Also, take a look at the cliffnotes, as they need to be finsihed. =)  Law liet  Li ght 01:14, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it could certainly be expanded. I think you should add more references to the trivia and add another cover to the gallery. I think there's an e-book or something. 02:46, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

So, all the other links need to be ready before the main article can be ready? 13:58, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

E-books don't need covers; none of the books have them in the galleries. E-books just need to be in the publication list. 16:14, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Right, I knew that! ;) But, yes. I'm pretty sure that the other links need to be ready before it can be nominated. 17:47, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they do. 16:51, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'll work on that in a little bit (I'm not feeling well right now) so I just thought I'd let you know. But shouldn't it be at least bronze, not "started"? 20:44, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

I guess the main article is good enough to be bronze right now. I'll go change that. 22:30, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Can the summary be expanded just a little bit? 00:17, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ivystripe? Are you still working on this? If not, I'll have to let someone else claim this. 06:21, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

The author and cover artist need citing. Is there also a jacket designer? I assume this was released in hardback and would therefore potentially have one. The publication list also needs citations before this can become silver. These are all relatively small fixes. I'd do them myself, but I don't have the book. I also wanted to point out that anyone can work on this no matter who nominated it. No one can 'claim' or 'reserve' a book page... 21:27, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, since Ivy's not working on this, I'll take it over from here. I'll go and cite all of that now. It was released in hardback, I know, because I have it. 14:51, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

The paragraphs look kind of short and choppy. Can you combine them a little? 20:04, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. Give me a bit, and I'll work on this. 20:06, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I cited some of the trivia and finished the cliffnotes. 17:02, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Icey. =) I'll finish up the summary now. 17:13, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'm slowly fixing this up. If anyone feels they need to add anything in, be my guest. 04:13, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Crookedstar's Promise ~ Silver Nomination
Yes, I know it's not done yet. I'm claiming it for myself, though, since it's been a while since I've nominated anything. 21:28, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

You might already be working on this - but cite the trivia. 15:58, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Just letting you know I'll have this done after I finish up SotM. =) 20:43, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Alright. 17:57, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I can't work on this and Sign of the Moon, as well as manage real life issues. If someone wants this, be my guest. 15:36, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

The Rescue ~ Silver Nomination
So yeah.....like Crookedstar's Promise, it's not done yet. I'm gonna fix it up, so this is basically a reservation. xD 02:11, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Is there any trivia? 15:59, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add it soon.....sorry for not working on this a lot. 02:15, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

No worries, Rainey. Sometimes people just get busy. Work on it when you can. =) 02:39, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

I can't believe I'm doing this but............I'm giving up on this nomination. I don't have time to work on this. If anyone wants to take over, that would be great. If not, then either me or Cloudy will archive it. So......anybody want this nomination? 14:30, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'd take it, but I have my hands full, and I don't get the book until later this week. If someone else wants it, they can have it. Hmm... Squirrel, Ice or Misty, do you want it? 20:17, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I would, but I'm not getting the book until "approximately 95 days" according to the library, so someone else can. :P 03:03, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Nice....xD 03:15, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Holy crap. Tell y'all what, if no one wants this by the time I get my copy, then I'll take it. 03:19, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'll get this. Of course, Imma have to order this...so it may take a long time. xD 19:32, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I got the book, Ice. If you don't want to do it, I can. I'm going to drop CP anyways... I can't do a super edition. Too much work... >.> *ish somewhat lazy* 15:35, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Articles
On some articles, such as Warriors Translations and Don Hudson, there is a PB tag. I think these articles would be better suited in the new project, Project Reality, as they are based on things in the real world. What does everyone else think? 23:18, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I think that Warriors Translations should stay with PB, because it has to do with the books themselves. As for the other one, I'm not sure why it's in the PB category, as it's a person. I have no problem with Don Hudson becoming part for Reality, but I think that Translations should stay with Books. 23:22, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Cloudskye. 02:14, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, but it still resolves around the real world. Dod Hundson should go there, but I'm not sure about Translations. 17:56, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think it should belong with PB because like Cloudy said, it has to do with the books themselves. The Project Mission is: "Project Books is targeted towards the completion of all information relating directly to the books and the text they contain." The translations are information relating directly to the books, so they should belong here. 19:32, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Although, I was looking the the translation page, and it seems that there's more to it then just the books. It also has a list of characters and what their names are in other languages. This could be difficult to decide, because it's not just relating to the books, but also some of the characters and terms. *rethinks what she said earlier* 17:29, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, sorry if I seem stubborn. Even though the character words are there, the actuall names are the text contained within the books. This project is related to the books and the text they contain, so I think it should still belong here. Yes, I'm a stubborn person. ;) 22:24, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

You're not stubborn. You're entitled to your own opinion. This isn't where "whatever Kelsey says goes". PB is a project where everyone's opinion is welcome, and valued. You're right about PB being about the books and the text they contain. I'd like to get everyone's opinion on this. If I see Helice on Skype, I'll ask his opinion on this as well. 18:42, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Images for Book Templates
Yeah, y'all know what I'm talking about. You know when you click on a book article and that shows up. Well, I noticed that two of the short stories are missing images. After Sunset: The Right Choice? and The Elders' Concern. What I was thinking, was that since AS:TRC focus around Brambleclaw, we could use that. And for TEC, we could possibly use Dappletail. So, any ideas, comments or concerns? 14:50, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe for TEC, we could do a collabration of all the elders featured in the story together? (Like...er...the couple userboxes, something like that) 17:55, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

That would be a good idea. Or, we could go back into the book where it supposedly takes place, and figure out which one was the most concerned about it, and place them in the template. 18:02, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, yes. But I like the collabration idea better. 18:04, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, but how would we go about making an image like that? And first, we'd have to find out who was involved. I don't have the app, so I can't read it. 18:07, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I like Icestorm's idea. Anyone who has the app, please list which characters are in TEC. 08:08, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Halftail, Dappletail, Smallear, Patchpelt and One-eye are the elders. It doesn't really focus around one elder, rather all five of them together. 14:47, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Then is there a way to make an image with all of them together, AND make it look good? I may try something, but I can't promise it'll be good. 20:10, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'll try, if you want? You're going to have to make it smaller when you insert it in the template, though. xD So could I? 19:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sure Ice. Take a wack at it. I've got my hands full anyways. And for once, it's not computer related. 17:41, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Mission of Mercy ~ Silver Nomination
I know it's hardly started, but I'm going to be filling it up soon. 19:35, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad someone's doing these. I don't care for the adventure games...so that's why I'm not working on them. I'd rather books. Thanks a lot, Squirrel! 18:39, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

To tell the truth, I don't like the Adventure games either, but I really want to help this project so I'm doing it anyway! XD 19:43, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, I finally finished all the writing! I just have to finish the flowchart and I'll be all set. This may take a while, though. 00:15, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Holy crap, Squirrel. Good job! =) Aside from the flow chat, this looks amazing! 00:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

This flow chart's going to take a while. My design's completely messed up, and I have no idea how to fit in in. I'm going to have to start a new one, so please be patient. :P 19:38, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Take as much time as you need. We're in no hurry to get this done. I think it was stated before, but, these really aren't vital to the plot of Warriors, so, they don't need to be done quickly. 15:34, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

SkyClan's Destiny - Silver Nomination
Yes. I don't think I'm allowed to do this, but I'm going to give it a shot. I finished up the plot summary, and I'm working on the cliffnotes right now, so this is basically a reservation 19:29, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Cliffnotes are done! =) Comments? 20:35, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Good job! Can you find anymore praises though? 10:23, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

No 17:03, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Looks awesome! Can you add a publication list? 17:30, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

There was a Russian edition released, so that should have a cover in the gallery. 19:36, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks Mistystar! I don't know how to add the publication list though...I'll try, but if I fail epicly, I'll inform you guys. xD 02:26, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

As long as I'm lead, you'll be allowed to reserve articles. It just means that this is your first priority. I have NO problems with it whatsoever. Now, back to the article. Looks good, and if you need help with the Publication List, just ask. 15:45, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, never mind. The Russian edition wasn't released yet, but it will be released by the end of this year. 20:11, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

After Sunset: The Right Choice? ~ Silver Nomination
Like most of the other users, this is only a reservation. I still haven't completed the cliffnotes, but the Main page looks good. 19:07, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Needs a summary (in the blue box) and a link to the transcript, if you can find one. I suggest checking Warriors Wish, and if not there, then try on wikipedia or something. 15:47, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, done, and done. Now I just have to do the cliffnotes... 18:03, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Done! Its kind of short, since the story itself is extremely short..but its longer than Brightspirit;s Mercy;s cliffnotes, so I think its good. My first time doing a whole cliffnotes all by myself. :D 18:20, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

The link you provided doesn't work. Did you copy it correctly? Cliffnotes look good, albeit short. 19:01, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't? But I copied it right...I'll go take a look. BM is silver, and this one's cliffnotes are longer than those, so it should be fine. 19:05, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the link. 19:27, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

September FA
Yep. It's that time again to begin discussing what we should do about it. However, this time... I'm not giving any suggestions. I think it's time for the others to come up with ideas, since I suggested this month's, along with Rainlegs. So, ideas, comments or questions? 15:43, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

How about an Adventure Game? We've never done any of those, I think...We could do Uninvited Guests, since that was recently promoted to silver. 17:49, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

An adventure game? Hmm... never thought of that. It's a good idea. Let's see what the others think. 19:03, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Uninvited Guests? Of course I agree! I nominated it! :P If no one else wants to do that, though, we can do a Field Guide. 20:09, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Uninvited Guests is a great idea! A field guide could work, too. 04:16, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think an Adventure Game is a good idea, and so is a field guide. Any other ideas? 04:27, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, we've done Field Guides before... We should have variety, shouldn't we? 04:40, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The Elders' Concern ~ Silver Nomination
Since we're allowed to do reservations, and I've finally found the way to read the App without having it, I'll nominate this one, too. I'm not done with pretty much anything, but I promise to work on it. 18:28, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

This one needs a lot of work, since its Main page is completely empty, and so is its cliffnotes...it'll take a while. 18:41, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

How'd you get to read the App without having it? O.o  04:13, August 12, 2011 (UTC)