Warriors Wiki talk:Charart



Nettlepaw (A) - For Approval
My first charart! he needs ALOT of work, but i don't know what to do! help? -- ♥Shine star♥  23:41, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

A few things 1) The backgroud is black, it needs to be transparent 2)The image needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail 3)I can't see any shading 4)The ear pink only needs to be on the ear closest to us (His left ear) and it needs to be me of a reddish color--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:47, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

well this was the biggest size it gave me, and, how do you make the background transparent? -- ♥Shine star♥  00:03, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Click on the image on the main page before saving it to your computer. After you've fixed that, I can turn it transparent for you. -- Tinsel claw  00:37, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink is WAY too bright. Make it a more salmony color- run the burn tool over it a few times.-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! 04:34, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

wait, which main page? i thought this was the main page! -- ♥Shine star♥  14:38, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

wait, so you mean go back onto pixrl and color the background white? -- ♥Shine star♥  14:41, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

No, it means you start over on pixlr. I did the same thing. Save the base on your computer, go to pixlr and open a file. You might notice that the background is checkered. That is a transparent background, which is what Wiki needs. Maplefern 14:57, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

but when i did him it had a checked backround! when i had saved it and opened it again, it had a black backround! so i have to do it all over again? ={ -- ♥Shine star♥  15:22, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I think what the problem is is you saved the image on a jpg file. Redo him and then save it on a png file. --Silverbells Merry Xmas! 15:44, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

ok, i put the new one up, but i CANNOT fix the eye and whiskers! also, this is the biggest i can get, which annoys me because all the others are WAY bigger! can someone help? -- ♥Shine star♥  22:00, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Here. Try re-doing him again. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 20:42, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

It is at its full size. Maplefern 22:11, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

The blank is. The Charart is not. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 22:33, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Did you remove the '120 px'in front of it? Maplefern 12:08, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded now he still needs alot more help, but THANK YOU ICESTORM! your blank made ti so the eye was correct and the whiskers, and i didn't have to spend 15 mins going over the white spots like in my old blank. Help? -- ♥Shine star♥  19:54, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

You missed a spot whan you were coloring(his hind leg) and tabby stripes are usually darker than the base pelt color, darken them some. otherwise this is much better.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 20:07, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded again. Now? --User:Shinestar ♥Shine ]] star♥ 20:57, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Make the tabby stripes thicker. Also, save over the former photo. You don't need the older versions.--Maplefern 22:37, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Maplefern is right, Try re-doing the tabby stripes with a size 3 brush. Look at Graystripe's apprentice picture for help. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:37, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Also, maybe darken the earpink a bit. It is a bit bright. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!14:53, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

oh my star clan! i am soo annoyed! i can't find my nettlepaw file on my computer! -- ♥Shine star♥  21:53, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Did you try a search? -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 16:33, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

ya -- ♥Shine star♥  17:56, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Can't you just copy and paste the image from here?-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 18:10, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Uhh...you could just save the image to your computer again. (i think that's what Ashshadow meant.) -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:16, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it is sorry I wasn't clear.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 03:21, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I tried doing that but it comes out all blurry! -- ♥Shine star♥  15:58, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but it sounds like you'll have to start over.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 17:14, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, I'm already trying, just give me a little while to get a new one -- ♥Shine star♥  15:12, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, heres my new nettlepaw, now he needs more work but at least i have something to work WITH. Comments? -- ♥Shine star♥  15:56, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Make the eye like on my tutorials, and add shading, if it's there I can't see it. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 16:51, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i'll get on that soon, my big sis is on the desktop right now. and also, on this computer the tabby stripes look all bad, and icethroat, do you think i should redo my tabby stripes the way it says so on your tutorials, or the way it is already? and it sort of confuses me on the eye thing on your tutorials. -- ♥Shine star♥  00:19, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

please work on this or it will be declined--Echopaw 01:21, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Echopaw what are you talking about it was just updated.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 01:30, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

No, your stripes are fine! I'm not very good at those type of stripes, so I didn't bother making a tutorial for them, that's all. and the eye thing, each block is like a pixel, if that helps any. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 02:03, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, i'll get on it soon, its just that i'm at my cousins for New Years and i'm sleeping over there so my work is on my computer at home. I'll get back on him soon though! -- ♥Shine star♥  16:23, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Also, ice, when i do my new shading, (cause mine you CANNOT see) should i just do it over the tabby stripes or remove them, shade, then put them back on? -- ♥Shine star♥  16:35, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Go over the tabby stripes. The shading should be on both the stripes and the fur. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 18:53, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

ya, i'm working on it, its just really hard for me to do the eyes! i'll have a new one up soon though! promise! -- ♥Shine star♥  17:28, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

I am SO sorry i haven't been on! i just keep getting BOATLOADS of homework! and we have a science project, but i promise to work on him when i have time! (and i have sewing and CDD and science club, and well you get the point) SO sorry! -- ♥Shine star♥  12:49, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too red, and I can't see the eye color.-- Dark hallows 14:23, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

you might be right about the ear pink but the eye color for my computer is a very bright blue. Is it dark for anyone eles? -- ♥Shine star♥  18:12, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, now I see it, make it a little larger.-- Dark hallows 18:47, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

k, i made the eye like in icestorm's tutorials, and i made the ear more pink. How is it now? -- ♥Shine star♥  21:43, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see the changes, upload it under a new file (Nettlepaw.A.png) and then put on the old image. --  Icy -chan   ♥  21:55, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

bangs head on table* i am so dumb! i put up the same file as before! ok, so HERE is my new file! -- ♥Shine star♥  22:08, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Much better! :D Just make the ear pink smaller and blur the tabby markings. --Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 22:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Shinestar there's no shading, please add some-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:50, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

ok, i THINK i fixed it. Now? -- ♥Shine star♥  00:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, it might just be my computer, but I still don't see any shading at all. Look at an approved apprentice picture, or a tutorial for shading-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I have a few things to fix =)
 * 1) The ear pink is too bright and needs blending - look at Rockpaw, Bouncepaw and Tinypaw
 * 2) The tabby stripes need thickening
 * 3) Night is right also - more shading is needed. Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  21:14, January 16, 2010 (UTC) ok, i'm on it  ♥Shine  star♥  15:36, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this soon or it will have to be declined. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:35, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

um weird, we commented at the same time but all the same i'm working on him. ♥Shine star♥  15:38, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

ok, i messed up on the tabby stripes BIG TIME but i couldn't undo them cause i had already put in all those lines on the tail. Please help! He looks awful! ♥Shine star♥  17:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

also, i think you can barely see my shading. DX ♥Shine  star♥  18:45, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is better I just think this color is a bit strange for a cat. The earpink is to small and needs to be blured some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:50, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

k i fixed the ear pink but i don't think i should change his color. Anything eles? ♥Shine star♥  19:17, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

ok, something happened. The writing around my picture is all huge. Can someone help with that? ♥Shine star♥  19:22, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I didnt mean to change the color, sorry if thats how it sounded. blur the earpink some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

k, now? ♥Shine star♥  19:30, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I still don't really see much shading. I don't want to be rude, but maybe you could consider taking this down? It's not really anywhere near approval...

There is shading now, but it needs to be blurred, and maybe darkened? And add more stripes.  Dark hallows 07:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the ear pink darker and smaller. Icestorm Hi There! 18:22, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Molepelt (MC) For Approval
Did I go over the image limit? If I did, feel free to remove. I just did this for fun. Still waiting for comments on Ryewhisker. Anyways how is he? --:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 22:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Neat! I really like it. Maybe make the medicine stuff in his mouth a darker green, so it looks more natural. Otherwise, it's awesome! --CandyCaneWolf 23:15, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I love it Icy! But I think you should probably blur the shading and highlights some, especially around the neck. But it's awesome!--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:32, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

His ear pink seems to be a bit too bright - the shade is right, its just light. Highlights would make it seem like there's more shading, and the herbs would look better if all three were different shades(don't forget to shade them, too!). -- Quiet !... 08:08, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I had actually reserved him, but you keep this up; I still haven't got around to doing him anyways, haha. Also, merry Christmas! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:07, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

This is awsome! Darken and blur earpink and it should be good! Merry Christmas! 18:23, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with maple,darken and blur the ear pink. FirePelt  14:28, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Okay for some reason I can't get to pixlr.com. I'll try to get to this as soon as I can. Please don't decline! --Icy Let's Go 2010! 20:27, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Whole image re done. Why you ask? I just wanted to! --Icy Let's Go 2010! 21:37, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

LOL! Okay, I think you should probably blur the shading a little more, and the ear pink looks a little too bright. Try and darken it some--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 21:53, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. --Icy Let's Go 2010! 03:03, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the midriff, like on Bluestar's deputy image, or like on Molewhisker and Silvermask. Also, darken all of the shading. --  Icy -chan  16:14, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little too bright also - try a Rippletail, Whitethroat, or other darker coloured cat reference like Dustpelt or Swallowtail (RC) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  16:38, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:49, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I keep uploading it but it won't show up! --Icestorm HI! 21:28, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, here's what to do. Upload your new version under the file name Molepelt.medcat.png and then mark your current file with the tag. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  21:43, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I try uploading the new file but it says "Error" and I cant remember the other part. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:aqua; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm HI! 21:59, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

...try it again, I don't know what else to do since you don't remember what the entire message was, so try uploading it again and if it doesn't work try to remember the whole message this next time. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

NVM. I just uploaded a new file. Anything else? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 22:07, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the midriff. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:25, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''The changes showing? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 00:54, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little lighter and less red. -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 21:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is it ready? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:58, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink more, darken the shading, and the blur it Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:35, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 21:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Rainstorm (W)-For Approval
(Yes this image is #36.) However, I saw my image for Rising Moon ready for approval and (yes it's me again) I put him up!!! My first mottled cat...Comments?-- NewYearPath Fireworks! Poof... 19:11, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

He seems a bit dark. Maybe lighten him up a little? -- Quiet !...  21:41, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

He, he looks a little blue to me. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Icy Let's Go 2010! 19:07, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

He's supposed to be blue.-- NewYearPath Fireworks! Poof... 20:54, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his haunch more.-- :) Mousetalon And A Mousey New Year!!!!! 21:25, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

The spots look a bit like a pattern to me, maybe try scattering a few more of varied sizes in an uneven way? Usually on mottled cats I see the spots concentrating toward the spine, so if you just sprinkle a few more along his back, it would probably look a bit more natural. <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included 15:58, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on for almost a week. Please work on this soon or it might be declined. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  23:51, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I have to take a short hiatus from working on this. Stupid homework. *Kills Pre-algebra.* So can someone decline this, and I'll put it back up later?-- NewYearPath Fireworks! Poof... 21:08, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

NVM what I said, I finished homework and my work for the weekend :) I'll work on this tonight.-- NewYearPath Fireworks! Poof... 21:13, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. yep!-- Moss I'm Up There!  22:46, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps make the spots a little darker. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  17:30, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, we can barely see them now.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:30, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Workin' on it, thank god death week is over ^.^ Moss I'm Up There!  23:29, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur them (the spots) more, please. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  00:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Moss I'm Up There!  18:06, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit lighter. And also, his eye kind of looks like it's the same color as his pelt. Could you make it a different color? Like amber or a lighter blue? -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 21:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded. Moss I'm Up There!  23:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot, it's hard to see right now. And then make the ear pink more triangular, and raise it up more  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blackclaw (E) - For Approval
Since there are a few images that are being approved/declined, I decided it was okay to post Blackclaw as an elder. Comments/Criticism? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 01:56, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

dodge the middle,cause i chan't see the shading now.-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  04:04, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. Anything other comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 19:20, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps darken the ear pink a little? More like his warrior image- Blackclaw--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 21:41, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 14:20, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 10:01, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 15:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little bit darker, the same color as his warrior image. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been touched in a week, please work on it or it will be declined Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:03, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can you keep this up for another day? I just installed Windows XP on my computer and I haven't transfered all my old information to it. I'll do it as soon as I can. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:White; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:LightGray;">Snowfall 09 03:12, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, done. Anything else? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:White; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:LightGray;">Snowfall 09 03:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit more, and then this should be good. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Stonefur (K)--For Approval


I finally have a picture and uploaded it but the picture won't appear. What do I do? WoodClan 19:21, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

1. Because it says Image instead of File.

2, xcf is not a um thing. Example png. Save it under png. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Icy Let's Go 2010! 19:27, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

My first Charart at last! I did this one because Stonefur appears as a kit in BP. What do you think? (Thanks for the help in uploading the image) WoodClan 20:18, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think he's a little to blue. Try to match the color of his warrior image.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 20:48, January 1, 2010 (UTC) I agree with Ashshadow. He needs to be blue-gray, like on his warrior image. (see here. The chest shading also looks smudged. -- ♪ Raven star ♫ <font color="Purple"> :P20:51, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Better. The title needs to say '(Character name)--For Approval'. Just so you know. Happy New Year! 22:42, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too bright and purplish. Make it a more reddish colour and blur. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  16:12, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-changed ear color WoodClan 21:43, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

It still is too bright- see Stonefur-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 21:55, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-changed ear color. How is it? WoodClan 22:46, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Better =) Just bur the shading and highlights and this looks good Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  19:31, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-blurred the shading and highlights some more. Is it ready now? WoodClan 01:16, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on his front leg still needs more blurring.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 01:18, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-altered the shading and tints for the front legs WoodClan 20:26, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look good, but they need to be blurred some more. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 23:01, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-altered the highlights WoodClan 23:37, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the highlights and shading need to be blurred-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:00, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

And the ear pink looks too hot pink, try making it a little more of a reddish color like his warrior image-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-altered the shading again, the ear color is identical to Stonefurs warrior picture WoodClan 18:08, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more and instead of altering the highlights blur this time. Sometimes after altering the color it blurs more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:07, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-blurred ear pink, what now? WoodClan 02:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight on his chest is too bright-try darkening it some. Also, blur the ear pink a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:40, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Dewspots (W)-For Approval
My first tabby!!!!!!! Is there anything I could do to it? Comments? Thanks!!!!--Echoheart 22:03, January 3, 2010 (UTC)Echoheart

Darken the tabby stripes some.-- Ashshadow Rawr :3 23:32, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too bright, and needs to be blurred.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 00:02, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

This needs shading, or more shading Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:13, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is to bright.It needs more shading,the eye needs colored in properly,and darken the tabby stripes. FirePelt '''How's the prey running? 21:53, January 5, 2010 (UTC)'''

Reuploaded I changed the name of the file to Dewspots(Warrior).png accidentaly.Anyway,is there anything else I could do to it?--Echoheart 11:14, January 7, 2010 (UTC)Echoheart

This is much better. But the flecks look a little too much like snowflakes. Make them more of a gray color, and more irregular-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:54, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I kind of like them. . .-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 01:37, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right Mousey. I look at it now and I wonder, "What in StarClan's name was I thinking?" :) On second thought, the flecks look fine Echo. But add a stripe that starts at her eye lash, and then goes down more to her neck. Look at an approved image of a tabby cat for an example-- Swiftbreeze, Brambleclaw, Tornear, Voletooth-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:10, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Shes really pretty. Blur the earpink some more.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 03:18, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

What happened to the pretty one?-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 21:06, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean Mouse?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:09, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

lol, this one looks pretty to me =) Just darken the shading and she'll be good. Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  13:18, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Forget that, my computer was wacked up and showed the old one.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 23:20, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

hmm I don't want to have to say this because I love this image, but please work on it or she'll have to be declined. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  11:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm taking a while because I'm having problems on saving it. Could you help me?Echoheart 20:38, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Echoheart

Could you tell me what you mean excatly? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:32, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

When I try to save it, it saves on pixlr editor but not on my computer. Do you think I'm doing anything wrong?Echoheart 12:25, January 19, 2010 (UTC)Echoheart

Tadpole (Ki)- For Approval
So this is my first cat up for approval. Any suggestions?--QuailflightTheCat 00:13, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Good job for your first charart! But the lineart seems kind of blurred... try doing it again with this blank: The shading looks great though! -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. That's probably my horrible shading. 8)--Quail 01:01, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

No, the shading's great! Tell me if you need any help with it. I'm fairly good at black cats. And you've took on a hard one for your first charart! Black and white cats are the hardest to shade - trust me, I know! Snowfur was my first cat! -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:06, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I know too. Before it switched to Kestrelflight, that section was Hollyleaf-who I'm thinking of reposting. Snowfern Snow!

Thanks, Batwing. I'm going to re-upload it, and make sure it looks better. I didn't use any highlighting, oh yeah, something's wrong with my siggy! :( 8|--Quail! Meow! 01:53, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Okay, I re did it. Hopefully this is a little better.--Quail! Meow! 03:00, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, I think Blackclaw had this reserved first, but I'm not positive. I'll check the history--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:22, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Acually Quail, I don't even see your siggie on the current project list. Did you even reserve Tadpole?--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I did. At the bottom. Sorry for any problem, Snowfall. --Quail! Meow! 03:31, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well it looks as if Blackclaw reserved Tadpole under the status as a rogue, however Tadpole was seen as a rogue kitten. You may have reserved him later on under the right blank I believe, but Blackclaw did reserve Tadpole first even if it wasn't under the right status. I'm not a senior warrior anymore so I think we might have to ask Sandy or Bramble about this...or maybe Blackclaw will let you keep the image up.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  03:55, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm....I didn't see Blackclaw's name on the reserve list, and no Tadpole, it should be okay.--Quail! Meow! 04:02, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, you only reserved Tadpole after I told you you weren't on the list. Anyway, Shimmerpool's right. Ask Bramble, Sandy, or Blackclaw--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 04:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Blackclaw is under a different name as they changed their for the holidays. It is Rainwhisker and the 6th user on the page. Check for yourself and click the link and it will take you to Blackclaw's page. I for one only have to hover over a person's name to see what userpage it will take me too.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  06:17, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Talk to Rainwhisker about it, Quailflight. I'm going to stay out of this one, because of her doing a rogue version when he's just a kitten. -- Bramble -sama  22:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

You can keep this up for approval, since I reserved him in the wrong blank and you got him up first, so keep it. I'll remove him from my reservations (current projects list). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 00:09, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks really strange, it's lighter than the pelt. The shading is supposed to be darker the pelt, not lighter. Also, darken and blur the ear pink. There are some white pixels on his front left paw, and the eyes don't really look right. Look at Icethroat's tutorials to see how to do the kits's eyes-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:53, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Blackclaw let me keep the image, so I reuploaded it. The file is Tad5.-- Qua il! <font color="Green"> Meow!06:54, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink and nose need to be a bit darker. People usually choose Rippletail as a good color. Also try to make the earpink as close to the same size as possible, right now his left ear is bigger than the right.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 03:30, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I changed the ear and nose colors. Anything else?-- Qua il! <font color="Green"> Meow!00:48, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay...I'm pretty happy with my charart....but I'll reupload it...-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!10:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-It doesn't look like I did much, but I was trying to make the ears a little lighter, and balance out the highlights. Any suggestions? QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!10:27, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'd personally advise you get rid of the highlights and just use shading on a kit. Thicken the neck shading and blend. Make the ear pink smaller and get a tiny size 3 brush to blur slightly. Also - take a darker reddish-pink colour such as on Crowtail or my awful image of Cloudspots ^_^ Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-lightened ears and nose, and got rid of highlights, as Sandy said.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box21:00, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks too hot pink to me. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:26, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, it looks more purple to me. Make it more like this- Blackclaw Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I tried to make the ears a little better.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box03:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a redish color. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 20:02, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-used more red in ears.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box22:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there's some lineart missing on the paws - check the kit blanks and replace it. The ear pink needs blending slightly (be carfeul not to blur the lineart) and the shading needs to be darker. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  11:48, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I redid the whole image, even though I think this is worst.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:56, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a lot more, and thicken all of the shading a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:44, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Violet (R)- For Approval
Guess who's back? Don't ask why I'm on here today. Anyway, I couldn't see this image go into waist so comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Hawkey C'mon 2010! 14:59, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm...it still looks more yellow than orange, but using the sponge tool on saturate a couple of times should fix that. ;) Also, the ear pink needs blurred some more. Otherwise, this looks really awesome. :D --  Icy -chan  15:06, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploadedeh! Mwar the highlights look yellow now! T.T Oh well, she looks oranger. :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Hawkey Rawr! LOL 15:13, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yah, looks awesome. The only thing I can see now is that I can barely see the ear pink, make it more of a reddish color. Also, I think I see blurred lineart in a couple of spots near the lineart in the highlights. --  Icy -chan  15:20, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Hawkey Rawr! LOL 15:30, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little bit wider, and it should be good. --  Icy -chan  15:34, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Hawkey Rawr! LOL 15:50, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * I still think she is a little to bright.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  20:33, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make her more ginger-orange. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆22:18, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make her more a ginger color and the shading looks like a sun is hanging over her.Make the shading darker and add it to the needed spots.Also make the ear pink alittle smaller. FirePelt '''RAWRZ!!!! 23:13, January 7, 2010 (UTC)'''

The backround is light gray; make it transparent Evanphoto 22:55, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The tail tip looks too yellow, maybe burn it a little?-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  03:53, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been touched in a week. Please work on it, I don't want it to be declined!-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:30, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Hawkey, but Nightfall's right. Please work on this soon or it will have to be declined. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:51, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkey, if you don't work on this, Sandy and Bramble will decline it! I can't bear to watch! QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!09:35, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I redid the whole image. 00:40, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

That looks better! But darken the shading because I don't see any. Darken and blur the stripes a little more, and her white paws look to cream colored. Make them more white Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:34, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

The paws look yellow,and she looks more like a light brown cat than a ginger color. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 23:41, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

star that shines on water-For Approval
i'm sorry to bramble by yelling,but i've got minnowtail aproved so this is the 2nd one.-- *Ivy  spring!!*  03:09, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

The mudstreaks look unnatural... make them darker, and disconnect the ones that are connected. The streak on the head also looks strange. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆ 18:51, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Just blur them and maybe smudge them a bit.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 00:17, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded i think its ready for approval,but thats for b,s,i,e,d,m&s to decide.-- *Ivy  spring!!*  03:48, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Add a streak to the top of her head, and blur the shading and highlights-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:49, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded-- *Ivy  pool~*  04:03, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on her haunch still needs to be blurred.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 00:38, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded,but i'm not sure where the haunches are.--.-- :) Ivy Hi 03:47, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I've circled the haunches-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:55, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

reyploadedthanks night!!i'm really proud of this.--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Dodge the muzzle, it looks flat.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 22:42, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:06, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks kind of flat, and the eyes look wierd. look at Icy's tutorial for help with that. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:14, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 02:38, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The streak that goes from the neck the past the shoulder, could you make it look like it follows the shape of her body more? Right now it's just there. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:34, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded!!!!!!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 11:36, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Dodge the muzzle a bit more, and blur the ear pink a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:46, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 11:12, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Icecloud (Ki)
This is my first charart. It's Icecloud, as a kit. I saw that it said that we could do any cat. even if they already had a charart. Someone [I forget who] reserved Icecloud as a warrior, so I did her as a kit. How did I do?--Rage♥♥ 21:05, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is good for your first try, but it needs shading. There are lots of tutorials that will tell you how (found here). And don't forget to blur the ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  21:31, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I added the shading and blurred the ear pink.

The shading should be darker and when you reupload the image please reupload over the same file name. -- Ashshadow Rawr :3 21:56, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Two things about the eyes, first of all they look teal. Icecloud has bright blue. Second of all, the overall design of the eyes is bothering me. Look at one of Icethroat's tutorials for help on how to do them-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:44, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made the shading slightly darker. Thanks Ashshadow, I didn't know that. Sorry. I made the eye color bright blue, and changed how I made the eyes.--Rage♥♥ 00:59, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes are much better! But there is a lot of lineart blurred, mainly on the sides of her head, and down around her legs and paws-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:49, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuloaded. I fixed the lineart, along with any other blurred lineart.--Rage♥♥ 00:59, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The shading should still be darker. I can't really see it.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:27, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened Shading. Also fixed the ears-they are now the same color and size.--Rage♥♥ 13:12, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to be honest and say I don't see a whole lot of shading, until I move my screen. And it doesn't look much like shading, just random lines across the image. Look at some kits and try to mimic the shading.-- Dark hallows 14:37, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Darkhollows, I don't know what you mean. I followed the shading rule sin the tutorials for white cats...--Rage♥♥ 17:10, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Darkhallows is right. I can hardly see the shading. It just looks like very thin, light, lines against the lineart. Just try and make it bigger, and make it a lot darker, then blur.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:45, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened the lineart and blurred it.--Rage♥♥ 13:11, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I'm still having trouble seeing the shading on the right side of the body. Also blur the earpink some more.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 17:46, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred ear and darkened shading to a darker gray shade--Rage♥♥ 21:56, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks too thick -- '''Icecloud33 23:06, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

You've got to make the shading bigger. It just looks like a very thin dark gray line right next to the lineart. Be sure to use the correct brush size, I use the 3 or 5 sized square.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:11, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Icecloud (W) for approval
My third cat. She looks a bit strange -- Icecloud33  23:27, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot more! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:aqua; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm HI! 23:27, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Better? -- Icecloud33  23:42, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'd recommend changing the shading style, that style looks odd on white cats. You can look at this list for tutorials, there are many other styles which look a bit less awkward on white cats :) and don't forget to blur it well. <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included 00:16, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think Insane's right. Try looking at Cloudtail, Whitewing or Whitetail as examples Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  12:19, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Better? is it a little dark? -- Icecloud33  18:10, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It needs highlights. Use the dodge tool set on 50.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:05, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. You don't have to add them but you can if you want.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:08, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I tried adding them but they wont show up -- Icecloud33  01:29, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The exposure should be 100. Mind you, that isn't the brush size. Snowfern Snow! 12:40, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I tried that, but they will not show up -- Icecloud33  01:31, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Set it to highlights.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  01:38, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

What should it be set to (exposure, not size) -- Icecloud33  01:40, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? -- Icecloud33  23:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a lot. They look to much like neat circles-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:12, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

And the shoulder highlights are way too high. Look at my tutorial or Bluestar's for help.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  00:26, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Better?, are the changes showing up? -- Icecloud33  01:16, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

The changes are showing up. But they still look kinda strange. Get the brush size on 50, and choose the brush style with the faded edges. Then do the highlights Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:19, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Um, what should the exposure be set to Icecloud33  00:24, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, just 50 I believe. I think that's the normal setting Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Someone told me to put it on highlights because they wouldn't show up so, should it be set at 50 in highlights (that's what I used last time and they look a little bright Icecloud33  00:57, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Highlights always look bright on white cats. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:23, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you need to worry too much about highlights. Just darken and blur the shading and this looks fine to me Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:46, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Better? '''Icecloud33 21:32, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Rock Beneath Still Water (CG) - For Approval
I know this is #41(whoa), but there's one discussion, four images in the 24 hour stage, and one to be declined. I really hate his tail. Why did Sharptooth have to bite it off? G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:58, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I really like the mud lightning, but I think the ear pink could be red, or darker. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:45, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, his stumpy tail doesn't look right. There's no lineart to indicate where the tail ends. Try fixing that-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:25, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I like the coloring, but I think the tail would look a smidge less odd if it stuck out past the body a little bit. Not a ton, because I know it has to be short, but the way it is now it almost looks like part of the body, so if you made it stick out a bit it would be more clear that it was the tail. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you mean. If you do that on a cave guard blank....As for the ear pink, I took the same colour which I used on Jag, as if I'm not wrong, that's the standard colour. If I am wrong, just tell me, and I'll change it. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

But Jag isn't the same color as Rock. I can barely see the ear pink on this one-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was looking at the tail in the wrong direction, but I figured out what the problem is after looking at the blank again. I think you just forgot to put the end of the tail in? It looks like the tail just vanishes... (Maybe it's my computer screen, since his fur is so dark) but I made a diagram to show what I mean. I think when you were erasing the tail you just forgot to put in a new end, like that. As I said, I'm on a semi-cruddy monitor right now, so it might be the screen not letting me see it, but... yeah... <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 17:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

No Insaneular, you're right. There's no end to the tail. That's what I was trying to say in my first comment.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The way you ended the tail looks odd. Maybe make it a bit longer. I dont really know how to describe what I'm talking about.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Ashshadow, can you make the tail a bit longer, so it overlaps with the front leg a bit? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

It is supposed to be a stump. And I don't think stumps are that long. "...whose tail was merely a stump."– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but maybe make the end more round. It looks to boxish-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:52, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

D'oh! Just ignore me, then. I was thinking just a short tail, not a stump. *fail* <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 12:06, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 04:05, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the tail is better. But his hanuch is bothering me. Do them more like this maybe?-

-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:52, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe bring the line down a little or get rid of that black pixel.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:09, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? – – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

There is a black spot above his foot. Either get rid of it or connect the leg to it. I can make an example if you need it.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 14:47, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Icicle (K) For Approval


Hi! This is my first charart. It's Icicle the kit from the Ravenpaw's Path Manga series. Please leave comments and stuff so I can fix it. Also, as an apprintice I want to say Bluestar's tutorial was very helpful. Thank you Bluestar! I had no clue what to do! This isn't very good but like I said, it's my first cat. Tell me what to do and thanks! May StarClan light your path!Artimas Hunter 19:14, January 8, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, first of all in needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail. Second, I see you've saved it in jpg format. It's a way better idea to save it in either png. or gif. Third, the background needs to be transparent right now it's black. Fourth, the eyes need eye white. Look at this for help--User:Icethroat21/Tutorials. Fifth, the ear pink is to hot pink, make it lighter and then blur. Sixth, she's supposed to be pale gray, with a white stripe on her forhead, a white chest, see here -Icicle She just looks white. Darken the gray on her pelt, and blend the spots where it's supposed to be white-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:23, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Glad I could help! Ok, go back and save it in your image program, but save it as a PNG, so the background will be transparent. You need to make the white mark very, very pale gray, and darken the pelt color. The ear pink looks too hot pink - see the chart on my tutorials for reference. He needs highlights, and the shading needs to be darkened/thickened. The eyes also need a glare (little white dot). See Icethroat's tutorials on how to do the eye. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆23:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits! I changed it so it fits both of your suggestions!Artimas Hunter 17:11, January 9, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Better. Now blur the white parts.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Artimas Hunter 20:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This looks good =) You need to blur the white a bit more though - try looking at some other patched cats to see how much to blur. Also, the shading needs to be a bit thicker and blended in more. Look at Applefur's kit version for an example as to how I would shade a kit. Be careful not to blur the lineart though. This is a great start to a first image =) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  20:30, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I think it turned out okay too. :D Is this better?Artimas Hunter 21:01, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This is really good but, darken the earpink a tad.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this is better? I'm so excited for it to be approved! I hope it's soon!00:05, January 12, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay sorry if this goes into another chart, my computer's got a problem, anyways here is Icicle again for approval. Comment back! I think she's almost ready for approval but I am kinda biased on the opinion! :D Artimas Hunter 21:42, January 13, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Hi! I know I'm being really impatient but I'm bored and no one has comented for days. Would someone have mercy and comment PLEASE??!! I want her to be approved cause I made 2 other chararts that are ready to go when she gets approved.Artimas Hunter 22:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

The highlight looks too bright Icecloud33  00:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''I think you're looking at the white chest and think theyre highlights. The earpink color still isnt quite right, try a color like Tess or Husker and blur it'''.The font is actin up on me T.T Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:42, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you soooooooooooo much for commenting! i think I was about to explode! :D I see what you mean aboutt the font.....anyways, here is Icicle revised! Ashshadow is right, she has a white chest not highlights but if those were highlights they would be WAY to bright! What do you think? I'm so excited!Artimas Hunter 01:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

- Okay, I know this is my own image and I don't normally give them as examples, but you need to make the shading thicker and darker and blurred. You could also use Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better?Artimas Hunter 23:50, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the shading some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:07, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Artimas Hunter 20:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Sootfur (Ki) For Approval
I know this is the 41st one, but there are 1 or 2 join requests and like 4 with a comments before approval on them. So here is one of my favorite ThunderClan cats as a kit! -- Night whisker 9 8 Merry Leaf-bare! 21:36, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shding alot more please. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 22:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Better?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:16, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

abit more.And the shading near the left side of the head looks weird to me. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 23:46, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more and darken ear pink. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:violet;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 01:50, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, how's this? And FirePelt, what do you mean by it looks weird. If you could help me, that would be great.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:24, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, but the lineart is a little patchy, and the ear pink is hardly visible.-- Dark hallows 14:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Patchy how?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 15:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks blurred in some places.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Anything else?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, the ear pink is too large and barely visible, and theres no dodging. Otherwise, it's great! :D Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

I'm not sure about this, but highlights aren't required, although shading is, also I have blurred the shading to the max on pixlr, If you wanted to help me with the shading, that would be awesome, and about the earpink, what color should it be?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

You're right about highlights, they're not required. And as for the ear pink, look at his warrior image for help on the color- Sootfur-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:45, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Soory, but uploads are disabled. I fixed the ear pink color though.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:33, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuloaded. better now? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:24, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading on his hind foot. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:41, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenfur (Kit) for approval
Ok.... This is my first kit. I looked at the tutorials, and i'm not quite sure if I shaded, dodged, burned, and blurred right but..... I'm an apprentice, and proud of my work! :D Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Try uploading it on here so we can see the picture without clicking on the link.-- Nightshine Let it snow! 01:39, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I tried, but It didn't work... Do you think you could save it and upload it yourself? Swiftpelt 04:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Got it. That's a very interesting file name though-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred more, and... it looks a little yellow.-- Dark hallows 14:28, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the yellow spots. Make the ear pink darker and thicken the tabby stripes.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 21:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is like, hot pink. Make it like his warrior image-- Brackenfur. And the stripes look way to much like thin veins. Maybe try and make them a little thicker, or bigger, then blur them. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:00, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The ear pink is much better. But his nose needs to be the same color as the ear pink, or at least really close-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:49, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Nose fixed. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The Tabby stripes need to be blurred, and his pelt color looks a bit too orange, can you try and make it a bit more golden brown like his warrior pic? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 00:46, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now it's about as golden brown as It can get. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Look at his warrior image and take the colours from there. Snowfern Snow! 01:44, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I gave it better coloring. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Okay, the color is a lot better. But the ear pink looks weird, one's smaller than the other. Please make them as even as possible. Second, the stripes still need to be blurred some. And third, the eyes look... strange. Like maybe some lineart was cut off? Look at User:Icethroat21/Tutorials for help on the eye-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Eyes fixed, ears fixed, stripes blurred. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Add a stripe to each of the front two paws, blur the highlights, and there's some lineart missing in multiple places. Also, the ear pink looks a little purplish, make it more pinkish or reddish. --  Icy -chan  16:56, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded A else? Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The ear pink is too bright, make it more salmony. Second, blur his chest shading.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Look at his warrior image for earpink color and blur chest shading more. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:11, January 14, 2010 (UTC) Brackenfur

' ' 'Reuploaded' ' ' I think this has been up for about a week now. :O Swiftpelt 13:00, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Patchpelt (W)- For approval
Well, I wanted to do a black-and-white-cat. I tried to copy the elder image. Constructments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Hawkey Rawr! LOL 03:11, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Darken ear pink and blur the patches a tiny bit more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 03:12, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, this is really good coming from my horrible elder image. :) Anyway, thicken the shading on the white fur, and the ear pink doesn't need darkened, it actually needs lightened just a little bit, and made the some color as the elder image. --  Icy -chan  03:19, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Hawkey! Okay, right on his chest, there is a very straight, white line that runs down into the black patch on his chest. Turn the part of it that's on the patch black. Also, darken the shading a little bit more on the white parts of him-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:20, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkey this hasnt been worked on in a week. Imagewise add shading on the white leg farthest from us. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:00, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Hawkey, normally I'd be able to wait longer before putting a rush on this, but because of all of the images on the page, please work on this soon or it will have to be decined. --  Icy -chan   ♥  02:34, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Sasha (Q) - For Approval
if somebody has it, please let me do it!!it took me time.and leafpool;s for comments before approval, so i think its okay..-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, but you should either blur or burn the brown parts.. Then it will look perfect! Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The shading looks a little lumpy. Blend it more.-- Dark hallows 14:25, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Can you darken the brown stripes and other markings a bit? They look a little lighter then the rogue version... <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 17:33, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks AMAZING!!!! I don't know how you get approval cuz I'm an apprintice but you should get it!!!Artimas Hunter 22:37, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the belly shading A LOT.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  00:50, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:44, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it some more. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:07, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 03:06, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

She looks a little cross eyed. Try making the eyes like in Poppyfrost--  Night shine   ★  04:14, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightshine, she looks a little cross-eyed, but overall beautiful-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!04:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 02:41, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights across her pelt, they look lumpy Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:53, January 16, 2010 (UTC) reuploadedlalala!!i'm gonna see avatar!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Cool, I hope you like it :) And that looks much better. But make the ear pink a little bigger, look at an approved queen image for reference  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

i don't see problems.. anyway night,thanks for adding comments every time!:)--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 06:57, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt looks a bit smudgy - blend it some more. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:59, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 11:14, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sorreltail (Q) - Declined


I know, this is image number 43 (:O). But lots are in the 24 hour stage. Feel free to decline due to image number. Anyways, here's Sorreltail as a queen! Awesome cat in my opinion. Comments? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆22:38, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I thought I had her reserved?-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 22:39, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well, whatever. First, it looks nothing like her warrior image.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 22:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the very end of the back. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 22:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Mouse - nope, you had her reserved as an apprentice, and just changed it, if you look at the history, I had her first. -sigh- I can't make it look like the warrior image, not texture-wise atleast, 'cause I got the colors from the warrior image. And, you didn't need to post yours here, as it looks even less like her warrior image. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆22:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred back shading. Better? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆22:46, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I know, that's why I said whatever. I didn't mean the texture, I don't know if anybody can do that, I mean the pattern of her fur. But I don't care about mine. I used it as an example. But, the side of the queen is the same side as the warrior, and her fur pattern doesn't look like her warrior image.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 22:53, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Mouse is right, it doesn't really look anything like her warrior picture. Here, look-- Sorreltail-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:18, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

You should let Mousetalon have it. She reserved it first. This one doesn't look like her warrior image. The white is supposed to be on her belly.-- Nightshine Let it snow! 23:40, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Right, this one should be declined, Mousetalon not only reserved it, but also hers looks more like her warrior pic. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

HEY! STOP! She reserved it before me, apparently, and she could always edit hers.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 00:13, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

ENOUGH. If you get off your butts and check the history, you'll see that I reserved it first, Swiftpelt and Nightshine. I doubt you even looked to see who reserved it first. It's not your place to say things like that. Swiftpelt, you're a new user here, so please don't go around saying what should and shoudn't be declined. That's up to Bramble, Sandy and the senior warriors. Mousetalon had the apprentice version reserved, and changed it today. I've had her reserved as a queen for quite away. And about it looking like the warrior image. This happened with Lionheart as well, and I'm pretty sick of it. I'm not a copy machine, please don't act like I should be, 'cause I doubt any of you who commented could make a better one. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:24, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blue,calm down.  ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 13:27, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

And Swiftpelt, if there's anything that makes me mad, it's comments like yours. It's not your area to say this should be declined. Why don't you go check the history and see how wrong yoou are? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:25, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, It's just that they said it.... It's not like I meant to say anything against you... Sorry.... Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Hey guys, calm down. You can take this to your talk pages and discuss it gently. As for it not looking like her warrior image, wer'e just trying to go for consistency here. Lionheart was coming out very well, and it was your choice to withdraw him. Just get to work on her, and at least try to make her look as much like her warrior image as you can-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:48, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Swift : -sigh- Sorry, I just hate it when people say stuff that they have no idea about. Night : As I said, I'm not a copy machine, and it seems like you guys won't accept less than that: a copy. I'll try to re-do it, but then it will probally look even less like her warrior image. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:53, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Not trying to "feed the flames" here, but I think if you make her belly white and focus the black and ginger on her back, that could make it look a bit more like the warrior image. (I think that's the main issue the others have with it, but correct me if I'm wrong). I don't think they're trying to say that you need to have the patches PERFECTLY, just that it does look a bit odd with the patches on the stomach (although none of them said anything about how you should change it, so I can understand why it was frustrating). I'm sure if you just did that, everyone could calm down... I agree that this is getting very out of hand. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 00:54, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Bluestar, I didn't ask for them to say that stuff.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 01:00, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's not your fault Mouse. And I agree with Insane. If you tell me what to fix I'll be fine, but if you just tell me it needs fixing, I won't be that happy with you. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:25, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

If you look at the patches on her warrior image, you can see how to do them, that;s what I did.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 01:32, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Now why couldn't anybody have told me that in the first place? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:39, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - There, I completley redid her. Better? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:53, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good. The one thing that I see is that the ear pink could be more darker so we can see it. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 01:54, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

That is better Bluestar! Blur the shading and highlights, and then maybe daken the shading on the white parts of her body-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:58, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Looks awesome, Bluestar :) That was what the people complaining were referring to, right? It was the only thing I could see wrong with it. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 02:23, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I think I made the shading on the white too dark... -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆03:23, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine, just blur it some more.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 04:20, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the white fur, I can barely see it. --  Icy -chan  14:47, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred shading. Icethroat, I don't know if it's just my computer, but the shading already looks really dark on mine. -- ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  17:16, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading. Also, the shading is dark depending on what angle you look at it for white cats, so make the brush size bigger and go over the shading you have now as well as adding some new shading (making it thicker), so it looks sort of like the shading on the white fur of Poppyfrost's queen image. --  Icy -chan  17:31, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? -- ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  17:37, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe blur the highlights on the tail.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:25, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the belly shading and on the fore arm and neck--  Night shine   ★  04:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

There is a shadow on the image.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:12, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - The changes aren't showing up... ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:09, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

...Ok now they are. Better? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:08, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yep! But it's kinda hard to see the ear pink, maybe lighten it some? And then that small strip of ginger color on the very tip of her tail could be blurred more Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:03, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I got the ear pink from the warrior image, but I lightened it anyway. Better? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  00:40, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the white parts a little. This is really good Blue. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaed - Meh, it looks too dark to me. What do you guys think? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  19:36, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, I think the shading looks fine. Good job! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:05, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading a lot more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:48, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Declined due to user being blocked. Bluestar has given permission for this to be edited, should anyone want to. -- Bramble -sama  19:48, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

So, can I edit this image I think it is quite good Icecloud33  01:13, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry Icy but I've edited it and forgot to upload it. Should I change the title from "Declined" back to "For Approval"? Anyways any other comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:35, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's okay I wanted to do Lionheart's deputy image '''Icecloud33  20:21, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfur (W) For Approval
I know this is over the image limit, but there are 10 with comments before approval (including Husker *Smiles*) and one problem thingy. So technically, this is 33 or 34... anyways... comments?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:13, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I am so stupid! I forgot to shade it!  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:20, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you can't lighten his fur even the tiniest bit? It's so dark I can't see the outline. Example: Blackclaw Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

To lighten it, I suggest you redo the image and color it a really dark gray that isn't so dark like the one you have. Then you can run the burn tool over it to make it look black. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 15:05, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Run the Burn Tool over the whole image?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 15:12, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

No, Blackclaw means (I think) That you should make the base color of the fur a dark gray, so you can still shade it, but it still looks close to black. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 15:51, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh... I got it now... Night whisker 98 Rawr! 18:09, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- this better?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:22, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is too thick. Thin it. Also, darken ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 01:00, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Better? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:29, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks weird, it's gray. Try making it the color of the following- Molewhisker, Blackclaw, Hollyleaf, or Nightcloud Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:32, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his back Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  14:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

How's This? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 17:48, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink, now I can't really see it Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:06, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The back shading is too thick. Thin it and blur it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:17, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Dappletail (E) - For Approval


(M) - She's so sweet! *huggles*

Long story short, I got Photoshop for Christmas and had trouble installing it. I didn't want to do this image until it got installed. So now it's installed and I got to do her.

There are five images in the 24 hour stage and this is the fourth over the limit so I thought it would be okay. I'll take it down if it isn't.

Constructive criticism?

Oh...my...gosh... This is awesome, Mosswhisker! I can't really see the ear pink, though. Lighten it a bit, and this should be ready:) -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  22:06, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Cool she looks like a reverse tiger! I agree with Hawktalon about the earpink.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

This is beautiful!-- Nightshine Let it snow! 22:13, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Aww, thanks guys! *Hugs* I lightened the ear pink, and there was a small strip at the top of the image that wasn't transparent, so I fixed that too. (It might take a while for the changes to show up though.) Anything else I should fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:20, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still seems alittle odd to me.Make it alittle lighter. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Have a happy Valentineღ 00:54, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Moss, I'm not sure if I'll get to call you tonight, so I'll comment here. OMSC, this is good! I take back everything I ever said about fat, lazy, or sitting on hindquarters! But I do agree with firepelt about the ear pink. It sort of looks... gray. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 12:36, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks! Lightened the ear pink again and fixed some pixelation on the haunch while I was at it. Does the ear pink look any better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:13, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

This looks awesome. But, to complain about the ear pink agaian, it looks a bit too purply (I know it's not a word. :P). Make it like Yellowfang's color. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  20:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hm. . . just make it lighter and make the brush thicker for the ear pink I guess.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  03:04, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - I tried to fix the ear pink again. Also, I gave the ear a more furry texture. Any better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:23, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I cant really see it now.Maybe darken ot some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:05, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. Is the ear pink any better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:55, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Hollyleaf (MCA)--For Approval
You might remember this....LOL, I completely redid the shading today. I thought I'd be safe, if not, take this down. Anyway, comments? Snowfern Snow! 22:53, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading just a little bit more. Also, add shading to the herbs:if there's any I can't see it, add it either like you did to Gingerfrost on PCWiki (with the different colors), or add the shading like on my tutorials. --  Icy -chan   ♥  23:11, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Snowfern Snow! 23:27, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really see the color of her eyes.--  Night shine   ★  01:36, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a little strange. Blur them a bit. On black cats, if the highlights won't blur any more, a little trick is to run the smudge tool around the edge of the highlight then try blurring it. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  20:38, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded--how is she? Snowfern Snow! 23:46, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, and the shading on her haunches more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:55, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Snowfern Snow! 23:21, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the shading is better. But the ear pink looks a little weird, it's like solid on one side and on the other it's blurred. Make it more triangular, then blur it all Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:29, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. How is she? Snowfern Snow! 23:34, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't look as if you've changed anything Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:06, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Snowfern Snow! 11:37, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Snowfern Snow! 23:11, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink still looks half blurred and I can't see any shading on the haunch. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:35, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Snowfern Snow! 22:37, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 19:57, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Anything at all? Maplefern Hi everyone! 01:45, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink just a tad and blur it, and darken the shading some on the back and blur it Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:51, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 23:17, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

River (Lo) - For Approval


I've been waiting forever to put him up. Since Wing was just approved, here is River as a loner. I'm super proud of him - I think this might be my best image ever. :) ß  ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  23:31, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! But the blur the shading and highlights more, they look a tad lumpy Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:36, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Ah, how I hate Pixlr's blurring tool! -.- Anyways, better? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  00:36, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit smaller and darker. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:18, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I got the colour from his leader image, and made it smaller. Better? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  19:33, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all of the shading a bit more, it looks a bit square-ish right now. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:49, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Willie (R)- For Approval
I saw plenty of images for approval, and several pages are discussion pages, so here he is, the tom from Shattered Peace. Comments? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  00:42, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look a little strange, like in some parts of them there is a tiny spot that is thicker than the rest of the stripe. Try thickening them, then bluring them. And then the shading needs to be blurred some, and I'd add a little more shading around his legs and belly. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:09, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, stripes, and shading some more. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:08, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''When I tried thickening the srtipes, it threw off the entire image. I just blurred them. Anything else? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  00:56, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:32, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

If it's on the back, that's the stripe. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  13:49, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! *face palm* Try blurring that just a little more, especially on the tail  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:17, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks - For Approval


Ok here are the Sharpclaw blanks from left to right it short hair male, short hair female, long hair male and long hair female. What do you think? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

These are great! Maybe for the long haired you could make the face a bit shaggy.  Night shine   ★  01:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean like add couple lines like what on the chest to show the fur? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah.  Night shine   ★  01:43, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded how is that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 02:50, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, these are really good, but I think Hawktalon (Or Flamingomom) had these reserved first. The date says Jan. 11 Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's great! But I guess Hawtalon did reserve it first. Maybe these could be something else? But there is nothing else  Night shine   ★  03:03, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I guess you could ask Hawktalon if you could keep these. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:05, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Shot I looked but I guess I missed her. I spoke to her know I'm waiting to hear back. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 03:34, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I kinda dought Hawktalon's on right now. You might have to wait until tomorrow Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

i heard back from Hawktalon she said that i could have it : ) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 21:44, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thickin the line art for the features such as eyes and nose. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Really good! But maybe thicken the pupil in all the eyes. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 22:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok before I edit all of them here is what one looks with thicker lines on the featues and thicker puplis does it look better? Personaly I like the first ones better <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 22:19, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the pupils but I think the features look better. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I've got a few things. First of all, they all look kinda sad, like their whiskers are all droopy and their eyes are flat. Both the ears and paws are too round. Sharpen the ears some, and as for the paws, make them a little more flat on the bottom. And then their elbows look a little too flappy, make them a little straighter Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:13, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

ok how is this? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:33, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think the "eyelashes" on the females should be at a more horizontal angle--  Night shine   ★  00:43, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded like that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:55, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's better!--  Night shine   ★  00:58, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add a line at where the muzzle begins, like on the leader images. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:02, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Leopardfoot (W) - For approval
Evanphoto 12:35, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken shading. Snowfern Snow! 12:42, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:57, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:19, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? Evanphoto 11:46, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is way too small. Thicken it. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:06, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 00:50, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, anything else? Evanphoto 16:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:31, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 20:37, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to her haunch Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 11:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'd make the ear pink a tad smaller, and more triangular  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:53, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:08, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Birdflight(Q)--For Approval
Here she is-my first queen! Comments? Snowfern Snow! 12:45, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that's really good...Nothing to point out...My prediction is this is gonna be approved in less than a week!-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!16:00, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are too light. Make them darker like the warrior picture. WoodClan 17:56, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

WoodClan's right. She looks nothing like her warrior image. She's to golden colored. Make her like a creamy brown. The stripes nedd to be thicker and darker, and the ear pink needs to be lighter. And also, the eye farthest from us looks very strange. Make them both like the ones on Icethroat's tutorials Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 18:38, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks Quail. Anyways, is she better? Snowfern Snow! 12:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. Maybe make her eye and earpink a bit darker. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:16, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all of the shading a little bit more, and make the stripes touch the lineart. --  Icy -chan   ♥  21:48, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Snowfern Snow! 23:17, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:36, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more, and lighten the ear pink to make it look the same color as her warrior image Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:54, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Night, I took the colour of the ear pink from her warrior image, and then I was told to darken it. Should I still lighten it? Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:36, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, maybe lighten it just a tad (I'm just going for consistency) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 23:08, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sweetpaw (Ki)- For Approval


There are a few in the 24 hour stage. Take this down if there are too many--  Night shine   ★  01:38, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, this is good. But blur the patches on the chest and make the eye color lighter, so it matches her apprentice image. The white hing leg also needs some shading. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  01:52, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I blurred the chest a bit more. lightened the eye color and added some shading to the leg/foot--  Night shine   ★  03:34, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Her hind leg visible should be ginger. It's on her apprentice image. Snowfern Snow! 12:13, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I added ginger to the leg--  Night shine   ★  23:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see any shading - perhaps darken it =) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:37, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I darkened the shading--  Night shine   ★  00:01, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge that ginger part beside her brown leg, then blur it. This is almost ready :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:56, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Smudged and blurred ginger--  Night shine   ★  00:21, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge (KP) - For Approval
nobody has him up plus i really wanted to do him so please don't decline this! Echopaw 15:09, January

16, 2010 (UTC)

He looks nothing like his picture in Cats of the Clans.Look at that for a refrence.And theres no need for ear pink on the farthest ear.Also,it's to dark and looks more like a acute triangle,amke it alittle smaller and blur it. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 15:16, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter whether you really wanted to do him or not, Shruggy (Brambleclaw14) has him on his current projects. I am going to decline this, sorry. People 'reserve characters because they really want to do them, and if you want to put characters up either add them to your own list before anyone else does, or discuss it with the person who has it reserved before you post. Declined for said reasons.
 * Note: nobody has him up because the blanks have been approved not 5 minutes ago.

Also - approval has an 'a' not an 'e' ;) Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  15:32, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sandy Echopaw can do him. the thing I use for making then isn't working (nothing is working :[ ) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:48, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, back up for approval. Sorry to hear that Shruggy. Echo - just remember for next time Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  15:55, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the patches looks odd to me, or is it supposed to be like that?-- Moss I'm Up There!  19:03, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty good, but i think it could use some more shading, and also, blur the patches a lot. The edges look rough now. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 19:40, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, that's not exactly fair. I reserved him, and I thought nobody can take your reservation. Plus: I did him earlier, see? I thought I did a good job too. :( Swiftpelt 19:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

When you reserved him Brambleclaw14 had him first.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw's reservation wasn't on there before the new Character thing. When I put it up there, nobody had it. Oh well.... :'( Swiftpelt How's the prey running? 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Shruggy definitely had him first because I checked when I removed him from your current projects. Sorry Swiftpelt. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  20:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Echopaw,he looks nothing like his image in cats of the clans.In it,he's a black cat with small white spots on various places.Look in that book for a refrence once again. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt: Give him/her a chance - it's only been a couple of hours; you can't expect everyone to edit an image that quickly. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  22:30, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I know,but still.For some reason I get paranoid on things like this.I want them to be as accurate as possible.Also,his eyes are supposed to be amber. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

thanks sandy and im a she! Echopaw 22:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and Cats of the Clans it terribly inaccurate in some images. I never pictured Smudge like he was portrayed in that book. But our chararts don't really have to look like their images in Cats of the Clans. Take Heathertail for example. She looks nothing like she's supposed to in Cats of the clans, she's orange with purply eyes. But her charart was done beautifully, the way she was described in the book. So, I don't think that should be an issue -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Smudge's base color is black. I guess you can replace the white with black, and the black with white.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well wait a minute, we don't know that. There are so many mistakes in that book that we can't be sure. I think it's fine if we just keep it white with black patches.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:27, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think we need to go on written evidence as we cannot be sure the pictures are entirely correct seeing as they were an artist's own impression of the characters and not Erin Hunter's own work. As long as the image fits the book descriptions we have of him, I think it'll be okay Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, as for the image. The eyes do need to be amber, as that's been cited from the book. The ear pink looks too purple, make it more reddish like this -- Bone -- Blur the patches more, and add some more shading to the head -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED sorry well here he is Echopaw 22:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The patches and earpink need to be blurred more.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED here is he any better? Echopaw 14:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Right now it looks like there's lineart around the patches, it needs to be blended between the black and white to be a gray-ish color. For examples, look at Patchpelt, Mousewhisker, Toadstep, Crowfrost, Cloudspots, Smoky, Floss, Fritz, or Splash. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:56, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 16:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The patches still need to be blurred a lot, and so does the ear pink. Also, there needs to be ear pink on his right ear also -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

No NIght, that ear is turned away from us. Blur the shading on his head. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Patchpelt (A) - For Approval
Here he is! Sorry if this is WAYYY over the limit. Take this down if need. Anyways I need to do a patched cat to become a warrior. I want to become a warrior! Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 17:34, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Beautiful, all I see is maybe add more shading since it's really hard to see. Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Are the changes showing? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 17:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think they did. Blur the earpink some more adn darken the shading if this is the changed version. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:30, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 20:41, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anymore comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 19:11, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the tail. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 19:31, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken earpink a bit. I can barely see it. Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The patches on the hind leg look more blurred than the other patches, can you blur the others more to be like that, especially the one on the tail? Moss I'm Up There!  19:55, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

1. Darken the shading, blur all the little tiny edges of the black pathches, blur the black part on the tail, and darken the ear pink. This is really good! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:11, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 21:30, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Princess (KP)- For Approval
I used her Cats of the Clans picture for colors and reference. So, my favorite kittypet, besides Snowdrop. Comments? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  19:54, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It looks awesome, but isn't she a tabby? Also, her page says she has green eyes. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 19:55, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome image! Moss I'm Up There!  19:56, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken ear pink and her eyes are amber right? Make them more of a yellow-orange (thhat's what amber is right??) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 19:58, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

She's very pretty. (: But, she's a tabby, and her eyes are supposed to be green. (: ß  ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  20:08, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Giver her tabby stripes an make her eyes green. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Have a happy Valentineღ 22 20:10, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

HER EYES ARE GREEN!!!

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry for bold text, but I needed to say that. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:12, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Added tabby stripes. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Her eyes dont look green in the image. Anyway add a tabby m and blur the stripes some. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:19, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Anything else? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:24, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is great =) Just add some more stripes to the top of her head and [our] right side of her face, and darken the ear pink and she'll be ready Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  21:02, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sweet! Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  21:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  18:02, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Add a couple of stripes to the head above the eyes. --  Icy -chan   ★  18:43, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Done and done. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  17:36, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on her forhead are too straight. Make the tabby M above her eyes. I'd google a tabby cat for reference. Also, there's gotta be ear pink on her right ear too. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:54, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:33, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Compared to the other stripes, the tabby M looks a bit cartoony. Maybe make it thinner? And the right ear should have ear pink as well as the left. This is really good! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:58, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Snowdrop(KP)-for approval
there's snowdrop! XD I'm pretty proud of this image so....comments?-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 23:37, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

You spelled Snowdrop wrong, but overall, pretty good! The only thing is I have to say is..nothing! I'm speechless! I love the shading!-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! But blur that little part of shading that's right on top of her muzzle -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:17, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded -- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 02:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks a little weird on the left of her back and the top of her shoulder. Maybe blur it some more.  Night shine   ★  03:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The right ear (our right) shouldn't have ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  21:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well acually, the right ear should have ear pink. Because the cat is facing us. The fronts of both ears are facing us also. I think the ear pink looks fine -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:43, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I guess that makes sense. Never mind, then:) -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  17:54, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I just checked the For Approval section for the kittypet blanks, and Quietstep said that the right ear (our right) is turned away from us, so it shouldn't have ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  23:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

But, that kinda doesn't make sense. The ear doesn't look as if it's turned at all. It's facing straight at us. Maybe we should ask Quiet?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

See the curve in the blanks right ear (our right)? Does it appear in the left? Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:38, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Jigsaw (KP) - For approval
Since my Mothwing image is about to be approved, and there are a couple images about to be declined, I'm posting this (take it down if it's too many images). So, it was my first time on a kittypet and my first time with tabby patches, so, I just did what I thought looked good, and I think it turned out pretty well... how is it? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 14:33, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the highlight on his head, make the nose more of a pinkish-grey (I know he's black, so it can be greyish), and make the ear pink less purply-pink and more reddish-pink ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  14:36, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any better? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 14:41, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a bit too bright... Evanphoto 15:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded lightened the ear pink more. For some reason though, it always looks more bright on here than on my image program... o3o... <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 15:43, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink is too fluro now. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:23, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded and made it a lot lighter, because whenever it looks lighter on my image program it still looks fluorescent here. Is it better now? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 23:06, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, you're gonna love hearing me say this...now the ear pink's too bright. It needs to be more of a reddish color, like the color on Rippletail. --  Icy -chan   ★  14:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.... Gah! This earpink is killing me! I tried to make it much redder like on Rippletail, is it okay now? *dies* <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 15:06, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ack! Dx Sorry! But I think that it does look much better at last. And I'm happy to that it does look much better. Comments before approval? ;) --  Icy -chan   ★  15:17, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

only thing i want to say is that this is AWSOME. Nice job! ♥Shine star♥  19:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Get rid of the ear pink on his left ear. We don't need ear pink on that ear. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:25, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Removed it... Now is that the last thing? (Lol his ears are the only thing that I've been having problems with....) <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:12, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Morningflower (W) - For Approval
There are 9 in 24 hours (either for approval or denial) and one declined awaiting archiving.

Constructments? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:10, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Wow Sandy you may have an obbsesion for Morningflower. :) I love this image! Just darken ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 15:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Nope =P Just thought I should complete the set, so to speak, to save anyone else struggling to copy my awful tortoiseshells ^_^ I'll see to all comments later so I can edit all at once. Thanks Ice. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:16, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I got bored so I reuploaded Anything else? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:35, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Your tortoiseshells aren't bad! In fact their great! Anyways I looked for 2 minutes and cant find anything wrong with it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 19:39, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I haven't found anything either. Comments before approval? --  Icy -chan   ★  00:31, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

It might just be me,but,the ear pink seems smal and it looks to far down,of course,it migt just be me being half-dead again. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 13:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, you're right FirePelt, but I think it's different from cat to cat... --  Icy -chan   ★  15:13, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

You got a point,Icy. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 16:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

So, do you want me to change it or not. I think it's just I blurred the top bit in a bit more than the bottom by accident. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Just blur the bottom of the earpink is what I think... Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:44, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps make it higher? It looks too low right now  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:59, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderpaw (A) - For Approval


This is my first charart so it's not that good. ^^; How can I improve it?

Lotusfire 17:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

This is a really good charart for your first one,but,which ever Cinderpaw this is,they both have a apprentice charart.Im sorry. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 17:39, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt is right. Perhaps take the pixels from the eye and change the eye colour to amber and this can be Cedarheart's app pic? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:53, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, good idea Sandy :) Try that Lotus! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:01, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree.But s/he might have to change the pelt color,seeing as it is darker than the elder and warrior image. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 20:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC) 

Nothing the dodge tool cant fix. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Duke - For Approval
Ok 6 are images in the CBA phase, and two were put on rush so I think this is ok. Here's Duke. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:31, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken ear pink, and blur the fur on his front leg. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:33, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes look a bit strange, the pupil looks more dark gray than black, and maybe make the colours more similar. (If that makes sense) Blur where all the black meets all the white, it looks kinda strange. This is really good, I love the collar. But would there be a tag on a spiked collar? Nevermind. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  20:06, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

No the part about making the colors similar dosent make sense, could you explain it some more. Where the black meets the white is blured but i guess i could remove some of the resulting gray. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:14, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The colours look too different - I suggest picking one colour, then use that colour and slightly lighter and darker colours to colour the eye. Some of the pixels look much too dark, and not close enough to the colour of the eye. And where the white meets the black, it looks like you just smudged it all; blur it a bit more, particuarlly on the head. ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:10, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Where the white met the black was blurred and I didnt change the eye because I dont think it's that noticable unless you zoom in on the image but I did fix the pupil. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:19, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

You probably did this on purpose for a reason I don't know, but there's no ear pink on the right ear? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 23:10, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

It's not supposed to be there. Quiet said so when Firepelt made the first example. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:22, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

But, I'd add ear pink to the other ear anyway. Because the cat is looking straight at you, even though his body is turned. So, the fronts of both ears are facing us. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:41, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I dont know. Quiet who made the blanks said that the right ear was turned at an angle. I'm just going with what the creator said. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the transition between the black and white a lot more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:58, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:45, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Three things. First of all, I still think you should add some ear pink to the right ear. But perhaps it's not that big a deal. Second, the spikes on his collar look more like circles. Not the one that sticks out at the end, but the ones that are facing us. I like to sketch pictures of dogs with spiked collars, and that always seemed a big difficult. But I think what you should do, is (You may ask me to clarify if needed) try and draw the spikes on the front going down. Like an upside down triangle. (If you need me to do a diagram, I'd be happy to) And third, this image is very good!! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:05, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks Night. I see what you're saying about the earpink but the real reason for me not adding it now is because of the shading. About the spikes i'll change the if they dont look any better now that I darkened the shading on them. I was going for the rounded look if you can see it. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:55, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks much better :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:01, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Anything else? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:18, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Not that I can see. Comments before approval? --  Icy -chan   ★  23:06, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Fallowtail - For Approval
I'm really sorry for increasing the image limit even more, but I've been waiting a long time for the image number to go down to less then 35, but whenever it gets close enough, it breaches 40 again. I really want to put something up for approval, and Fallowtail was getting close to the time limit it could stay up in the current projects. So, again I'm sorry about this. Constructments? -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  18:36, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

This looks really good, but I can barely see the ear pink, so either darken it or change the color of it. --  Icy -chan   ★  19:28, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks, Icy:) Is this better? -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  20:17, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

It's better.Her fur looks like it has little red circles in some parts. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 20:59, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

'Reuploaded' - I think I see what you mean... Better? -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  21:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 21:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! I don't see any problems with it.--  Night shine   ★  00:22, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more. But this is really good! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:10, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed.Blur the highlights more into the pelt. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 13:23, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''O.o This image is so........ AMAZING! Swiftpelt'''User Talk: Swiftpelt] How's the prey running?

Reuploaded - Aww, thanks guys:3 I blurred the highlights more, but the changes aren't showing on my computer. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  17:30, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, there it isXD Heh, my computer is so slow:) -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  17:49, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

She looks better. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 18:54, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a little more, then blur the highlight on her tail som. And then I think this will be ready :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:10, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred the ear pink and tail highlight more. Any other comments? -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  20:14, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, this is the first time I've ever said this... Comments before Approval? XD  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:17, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hazeltail(K)-For Approval


She probably needs alot of work,I dont know.Anyways,comments? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 18:47, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can you lighten the ear pink? Right now It's barely visible. Moss I'm Up There!  23:10, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Is it better now? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 12:49, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

No, I still cant see the ear pink Raineh 13:46, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded.Can you see it now? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 16:15, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit more triangular, and blur the shading a lot Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:12, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Valentineღ |undefined 22 21:08, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Ki)-For Approval
'Big fat face plam.''' This is over the limit and not my best one. But I was waiting to put this up for a month, and whenever the image size went down to 34, I turn around, and people fill it up again. Plus I was REALLY excited and proud of my first tortoiseshell...here she is. If you must, you can decline it. But last time I waited for the image number to go down a lot, my reservation time was up. :'( Critique? Moss I'm Up There!  00:25, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

There is a spot next to the image and I dont see much shading. This is really good. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, the little dot was a little ' not on the image :3 anything else? Moss I'm Up There!  01:47, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken all of the shading a bit more, add neck shading (examples: Briarpaw's kit image and Hollyleaf's kit image), maybe add a highlight to the chest and the face (ex: Rainwhisker's kit image and like on my tutorials under kits), and blur the ear pink a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  16:03, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded. Moss I'm Up There!  19:27, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

This is a gorgeous image Moss! But, wasn't Tawnypelt mentioned as pale ginger as a kit? It could have been a mistake, but still. Look, here's an excat quote that I'm typing from the book -. ''Fireheart saw a ripple of pale amber fur and looked up to see Goldenflower slip out of the nursery behind the dark tabby kit. A pale ginger kit dangled from her jaws, and she placed it gently on the ground next to Bramblekit. And then, a bit farther down the page the kit is revealed to be Tawnykit after Goldenflower says, "It's Tawnykit's first time out of the nursery." ''That's from Rising Storm, page 19. And that's certainly not the only time she's been mentioned as pale ginger as a kit. That could have been a mistake, but if it was mentioned so much? It was only in Firestar's Quest that it said she was dark tortoiseshell. What do you guys think? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:27, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

The only reason I would leave it is because we're going for consistancy. An example would be Dawnpelt whose warrior image is gray even though she is described as cream furred. We might want to wait for Bramble or Sandy before changing it. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:15, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

A few issues I'd like to bring up...
First off, the page is getting WAY over the limit, it looks so cluttered and... ew. I feel as if we should have 1 up for approval, each. I feel kind of left out, seeing as some users have two, and I can't even get one up.

Second, I feel like I'm constantly scrabbling to get a character I want to do, there are quite a few I had been hoping to, that I missed by just a few hours Dx. Perhaps having two current images would be better, I don't know...

And lastly... *gulps* this sounds really mean, but maybe... erm... prehaps no new members for... untill a new book comes out, and we get more characters to do.

I hate the last idea, though... just an idea. Dark hallows 05:13, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

That totally makes sense. I see all these new members and they make a bunch of chararts and post them. A few of the chararts have been up for a long time!--  Night shine   ★  06:22, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine, that means a lot of work as been done. Darkhallows, I can agree with you about the 1 image up for approval. Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:47, January 18, 2010

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Right, you can't let apprentices take the blame! XD Yeah, the one image approval thing sounds good. Swiftpelt >:3 I have come to munch on your soullllllll!

I agree with Darkhollows.1 image up for approval by each user would mean less image number,and we would have time to focus on our image better.We DO have to many members for this project though.I dont think new members should be added for awhile until we get some more elders.Just my opinion. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 12:52, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I understand what you guys are saying, and I agree about possibly cutting down on the image number or something (or, I think we should make it a shorter time before images are declined, seeing as some people don't work on images preventing other people form putting things up, I know they have constrictions, but they can always re-post it right?) but I don't think it's fair to stop new members. All of us were new members once, and besides, the point of a wiki is that anyone can contribute. We can't just say that this is "only for experienced people". <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 14:25, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Don't feel hurt, this is my opinion. We have FAR too many new members on this project, and until we get more characters from books, block them for now. Second thought, again, since we have so MANY users, the page gets cluttered because every member wants to post 1-2 images. And we have like over 30 members to this project, math... 30x2=60! *sigheth* This project is all one big mess. Sorry if I offended anyone. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Hawkey Rawr! LOL 14:37, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Insaneular. Maybe two-three days instead of an entire week? They can just be re-posted whenever the artist decides to contribute more time to the image. However, I understand Darkhallows too, I've been waiting quite some time to get my image up as well, and if it means only one image up per user then so be it. But I think that we can still reserve three images, if there's a cat you want to make an image for really badly then just talk it over with the person who has it reserved over talk pages or something like that. However, not letting any new members join the project I disagree with, as well as disagreeing with Hawkey's idea of temporarily blocking members. Instead, I think we should have something along the lines of a clean-out, because there are many members listed under the members who have been inactive for some time, but we're supposed to wait six months before nominating someone an elder, and I think three months is enough to be an elder. *stares* That was long! xD --  Icy -chan   ★  14:52, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this up, Shady. Hawkfire, we're not going to block users from joining, that defeats the purpose of the wiki, like what Insane has said. I do agree that the image number should be changed (I hate to do that, but what else can be done?) to one up for approval. Here's some ideas, using yours as well:


 * One image up for approval by each user at any one time.
 * Members that have joined but not contributed; removed after a month(?) of complete inactivity after joining.
 * Elders removed after three months, not six months.

That's the basic plan I had... more will be brought up and I'll fix the page a little in about two hours. I have an ortho I have to go to, but I'll be back as soon as possible. Everybody be strong; things are pressing a little at the moment, but we'll get through this. Remember to work together. -- Bramble -sama  14:55, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

All right, but if we have 2 images up at the moment, can we leave them up until one gets approved? Because I have 2 and one is in the 24 hours, I believe. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 15:01, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Insaneular: Probably, I don't see why not, but I guess the final decision will be from Bramble. Bramble: I have another idea, but I forgot to say it earlier. You know how everyone cleaned the page to be basically empty right before Tweak Week? Could we maybe clean up the page to about 5 or 10 images left, without anyone posting up images, and then once there are about 5 images left could we start letting everyone put up images again? (As much as this idea pains me, as it would keep me from putting up images for quite a while since I don't have one up at the moment, it seems like a good way to clean the page a bit.) --  Icy -chan   ★  15:11, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Insane: That'll be fine. If we didn't, it'd be in the scenario of someone stealing, then a law came up against stealing, after the person had done it, and then he was unfairly punished. Anyway.. Icethroat:Great idea. I was going to mention it, but I wasn't sure how it'd be taken, so I'm glad you mentioned it. :) The next book doesnt' come out till April, we'll have plenty of time to get new images done after we clear the page a touch. On the idea of declining, I know it does sometimes keep images up for a while, it is fairly necessary. 2-3 days just doesn't seem like enough time to give a person if they happen to be really busy. And reposting would just give a lot of unnecessary edits and archives in the declined sections. -- Bramble -sama  16:09, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Great ideas, I agree 2-3 days isn't enough. A week, maybe? I know that I get busy sometimes, I'm in the middle of training a new puppy, as well as other things. But a week would work... And perhaps a month limit? Like, an image can't be up for more than a month? I dunno. Dark hallows 18:45, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I read all of this briefly. I agree with most of it. One image each sounds good to me. With one image each only two current projects would be needed I guess. Blocking new users I do not agree with. I basically agree with what Bramble wrote. Sounds good to me ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:32, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should not let the newly apprenticed memebers post anything for a week or two. That way they can take that time topractice making hgiher-quality art, not clogging the page, and the images would be improved faster so that others can post theirs...I just think things might run smoother when there are less needs-a-lot-of-improvement images up here. Moss I'm Up There!  19:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Moss about that. And yes, everything else besides banning new users. I've thought about it, and I don't think that would be right. I've been waiting for forever to put Lily up, and this would help speed up the process. So 1 image up per user sounds good to me :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:45, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think we should have a week or ten days to get at least one of our images approved, and if we're only having 1 image up at a time, then I agree that there only needs to be two reserved for each person, one of them being the one up for approval. Moss I'm Up There!  19:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Let's put it to vote. I'll put up a link after we've gotten everything battened down. Here's what's up so far(Please don't edit below them; I will add to them after more comments). Please be very open with ideas. I'd like to get this all settled in one sitting, so we don't have problems in the future. -- Bramble -sama  20:16, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Rules

 * One image up for approval by each user at any one time.
 * Members that have joined but not contributed; removed after a month(?) of complete inactivity after joining.
 * Elders removed after three months, not six months.
 * Only two current projects up by each user at any one time.
 * Two months to get an image approved.

Although, could we wait until one of our images are approved, if we have 2 up? Maplefern Hi everyone! 22:05, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

TWO MONTHS TO GET AN IMAGE APPROVED?!?!?! *faints* Swiftpelt 22:34, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Please watch the caps.

I support all. Dark hallows 22:41, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

So do I :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:09, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Me too. And Swiftpelt, two months is plenty of time. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:31, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Maple, that's been established; we're going to clean out the page. Y'know, a better idea than those little notices at the top would be a page for guidelines. People would see them easier, and know what to do. Then we could save the notices for actual notices. Senior warriors, please keep this up for about 24 hours more, just in case there's more ideas. Bramble -sama  23:45, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I support all of the ideas under "Rules". --  Icy -chan   ★  00:50, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think it is a better thing to do instead of the notice boards. Instead of thinking about, taking action. I agree to all the ideas under 'Rules'. :) Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:32, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree as well. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  20:15, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Join request
Hi, can I join Spottedsky27 21:55, January 18, 2010 (UTC)\

Yes, of course! I'll just add you. If you ever need help feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Dark hallows 07:26, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Proj. Charart Spottedsky!*purrs* '''  ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Valentineღ |undefined 22 00:32, January 20, 2010 (UTC)