Warriors Wiki talk:World

Events Timeline - Silver Nomination
I'm not sure whether we're supposed to nominate articles or not...but I'll nominate this. I think it looks fine. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 21:40, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's wonderfully done, but there can still be more information added to it. Bluestar's Prophecy, for example, which is a pretty big job. Still, not making it silver doesn't mean it's not good. Perhaps I'll go through BP and try and sort out the seasons and such. -- Bram ble  19:35, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

i have something to help you: Bluestar was born in Newleaf and apprenticed during Leaf-fall. → •Maple  fern•  ←  18:12, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Helix? Has this been updated enough? I can't tell because I don't the PO3 or OOTS series. Perseuς | Perseus ,  Thou art not the hero | Thou art not the hero  08:48, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have those either, but the seem OK, I double checked with the info on this wiki and the browse insides. Fading Echoes is missing though. Helix 18:50, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Fading Echoes is the most major thing missing. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 19:48, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Anybody working on this? Perseuς | Perseus ,  Thou art not the hero | Thou art not the hero  10:57, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

I added Fading Echoes but I think we should at least get a rough timeline for Bluestar's Prophecy up... that would really make it stand out. I'm willing to help try and sketch out the timeline (so to speak) if help is needed.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 14:51, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that'd be a great help. बंदर  को पकड़ो !!!  05:01, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'd be willing to help too. I have my BP in my room. . . somewhere. . .  Mo us  et  al  on  !!  Here comesSUMMER!  20:31, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

I cannot help unfortunately - I don't have the book. Those who have it should maybe work together to draft it up. Helixtalk 03:48, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

It's totally ready. It has my vote!  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  23:16, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, we need Bluestar's Prophecy done and I think it will be ready. Icefall Icy Winds 21:04, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, didn't notice that!  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  21:56, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Added as much as I could from the browse inside. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 08:54, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Should we add in some of the events near Into the Wild or Bluestar's Prophecy that's on BOTS? Sky wish  I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 22:58, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Willowpool, could you explain what you mean? Lightning talk 07:45, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think she means the events that are before or after Into the Wild and Bluestar's Prophecy that are mentioned in BOTS. Willowpool, is that what you were trying to say? 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 22:43, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, like...umm wouldn't the Lightning Strike with Dustpaw, Tigerclaw and Longtail place somewhere near Into the Wild? Sky wish  I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 02:53, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

SkyClan's Symbol
It's on page 69 of Battle of the Clans. I didn't know if anyone noticed that.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 17:45, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Only a few of us have BotC, so it might have gone unnoticed; many thanks for drawing our attention to it! We should make a logo for our site like we have for the other Clans, I wonder if someone can help with it. Kind regards, Helixtalk 18:07, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, who created the other ones? Whoever did those could probably do SkyClan's too.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 21:49, June 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was created by Kitsufox, a user who left a long time ago. Helixtalk 12:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, if only there was a way to contact her, or at least make the symbol like she did. We'll figure it out.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 14:06, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I guess there are many of us who could create it; but I don't know who has BotC. I guess even Kitsu doesn't have it. Let's wait for the input of the other users. Helixtalk 18:22, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have it, and probably won't ever get it, so don't pin your hopes on me. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 16:13, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yet another project I am neglecting; I should get more organised. I'd like to apologise in saying that I do not own BOTC, but perhaps we can take a screenshot of the browse inside and crop it down to size (I don't know how far through this image will be found, sorry). Alternatively, maybe ask Bramble on her talk page as I know she has it. [Note to Moonflight: there are ways to contact her, but I doubt she'll be pleased to be pestered by users on a wiki she rarely visits anymore, especially when few of us have made any attempt to contact her simply to see how she is. Or maybe those are my English manners coming through; I don't know how etiquette works in other countries.] -- Sandy star 15:13, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

You're right. I don't know Kitsu, chances are I will never know her. And she'd probably be a little bothered if I tried to contact her. I took a look at her User Page, (Not to be creepy, just to see what she was like.) and it looks like she has a lot happening in her life. I doubt she'd have the time to create a whole other fancy Clan symbol. Perhaps I could attempt to take a screenshot of the page and do some cutting and pasting and create a simple visual of the emblem. Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   01:57, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Later today I could try scanning in the symbol from my copy; I checked and the Browse Inside doesn't go far enough to screenshot it. And I don't mind risking myself to go ask Kitsu how she made the symbols look like that. (Me and Kitsu, we're tight, dontchaknow) She doesn't have to do it herself, just tell us what she did to get that look for the symbols and then we can do it. insane brick'd 13:07, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Insane, if you post the scan, I can try to do the logo myself. It should be easy based on the existing logos, and I wish we gave it a try before someone decides to bother Kitsu (by the way, I agree with what Sandy said on the matter).  Helix talk 17:54, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

How does that look? I did my best to make it look like the others. I can make small tweaks if necessary. insane brick'd 22:41, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I've never seen the logo before, so I can't say anything. Lightning talk 06:15, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

It's nice. If I wanted to find faults: the ears are a bit "small" (on other logos, their base are about 1/3 of the total width), but apart from that, it's OK.  Helix talk 18:35, June 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I didn't change any proportions... The only things I changed from the original shape of the logo were the little cracks and raggedness. So if the ears are small, that's how it was in the book, I guess. insane  brick'd 18:44, June 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK then (I don't have the book, so I can't compare). So my opinion is that we can go with it, if other users don't object.  Helix talk 19:06, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

That is what is looks like in the book. Of course it doesn't look exactly like the other ones but I believe Kitsu would like it. So do I. :)  Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   23:25, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

It looks exactly like the one in the book. Are there any comments before we put this up? ♥Ice shine★  16:57, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Comparing with the other logos, the shading could be made a bit less prominent:  Helix talk 20:13, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I lessened the shadow, is it better now? insane  brick'd 14:57, July 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Perfect, in my opinion.  Helix talk 17:02, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

BotC and Clan Pages
So I know it's a bit late after the release of BotC, but in the sections about the Clans, they have many details about the styles of fighting each Clan uses, which can't really go on any other pages but the Clan pages. So before adding them in randomly, I thought maybe a discussion should be in order? We could perhaps make a section near the top, near the territory section, summarizing the battle techniques? I'm open to suggestions or anything and then we can start adding this stuff :) insane  brick'd 16:29, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for the proposal. I'd like to point out that we already have a page on Clan-specific fighting styles that was created shortly after the release of BotC; I cannot remember its name, but I recall a discussion on its talk page asking whether it was needed. In case the contributors consider it unnecessary to have a separate article for it, I would suggest to merge it with Fighting Techniques as sub-sections. I disagree with adding it to the Clan articles; these should not be collections of all kinds of indiscriminate information, especially as they are already too diverse for an easy overview. They should rather act as hubs linking to dedicated articles relating to Clans (e.g. Territories, List of Cats, Camp, Border, Leader, Nursery etc). Of course, this is only my opinion, and if the contributors would rather add all info to the Clan articles, it's OK with me. :) 91.206.206.28 14:26, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Good idea Insaneular. Are there any concerns about this? Icefall★ Talk 15:16, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Tunneling
Speaking of which, do we need a page for Tunneling? •Maple fern•  10:00, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so. Icefall★ Talk 14:17, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Ice and Maple. Why wouldn't we need this page? This wiki is meant to gather all Warriors-related information as explained here, so I don't understand why would someone delete a valid and informative article written about an aspect presented in the official books. But of course, maybe it's me who is missing something - I'm looking forward to hearing your view on the matter. :)  Helix talk 17:53, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, I just thought there wouldn't be enough information for it. Now that you explain it, now, it makes sense. Icefall★ Talk 19:53, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Tunneling? Did you mean tunnels? Lightning talk 06:26, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

No, she means tunnelling, in BotC there was a section about how WindClan used to dig their own tunnels using old rabbit tunnels or something like that (I didn't read it very closely XD) I think that could deserve a page of its own... but while we're talking about all this maybe we could think of an organization for the Clan pages in general? As Helix said, the Clan pages can't list everything about the Clan so they should link to other pages. Maybe each Clan page would have a short overview, the history, and the list of ranks, and then it would have some sort of navbox linking to info on its territory, special battle techniques, and anything else? insane brick'd 13:34, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

For the record, the article is Tunnelers.  Helix talk 19:08, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Clan Infobox
Insane, I'm glad you appreciate my input regarding the Clan pages. :) Regarding on how to do it, the first thing I could think of is an infobox (similar to charcat, book), listing relevant links - check here. The links are not final, we need to discuss what to include, and how to organize the concerned reference pages. Of course, if members would rather prefer a navbox-style element (or anything other), that can be done as well - I'm open for ideas. :) Kind regards,  Helix talk 09:04, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

That looks cool, good job Helix. So going by the links in there, we'd leave a short overview on the Clan page, and the history, and move everything else to separate pages? I think that would actually make reading the Clan pages a lot easier and prevent people from doing the old "tl;dr" as well as making it easier to find specific information :) insane  brick'd 12:30, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks! :) Yes indeed, that's what I propose; although we should decide which should be those "separate pages" (e.g. do we need pages for rank succession, births, deaths... or just use the Leader / Deputy..., Nursery, StarClan pages etc).  Helix talk 20:16, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Feature Article
Hi all! There was a discussion on the Books project, talking about the opportunity to feature articles from all Projects on the front page (instead of only Characters). My opinion is that Project World can offer some articles to feature as well (actually I have had in mind a similar idea for a long time, but first I would like to improve some articles to an adequate level), and it would be a good opportunity to move World forward. I would like to hear your opinions on it, especially those of the Project leader / deputy - do we want to feature articles? Are we ready for it? Kind regards,  Helix talk 19:47, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be a great idea. I think we are ready for it, if all of us work together on articles. Icefall★ Talk 19:50, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I support the idea, and in my opinion, the Nursery page should be a good choice for being featured. Lightning talk 06:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. Sky Storm's brewing... 21:54, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

The nursery page is well done, and it's looking good. I think it should be featured. ♥Ice storm★  22:52, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

That's a great idea and I agree, the nursery page would be a nice article to feature  Z  Nightsong 22:56, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. :) Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   01:13, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

The nursery page is beautiful. Quailflight 05:24, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I agree :) But I have a question about the Nursery page; some of the queens and kits are cited. Should they all be cited? Night  Fall 05:31, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Those aren't citations - they're notes or explanations similar to some like the ones on Events Timeline. For example, explaining that a kit dies in the middle of a book, or a queen adopts another queen's kit, or something like that. insane brick'd 14:53, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Events Timeline - List
Originally, I planned the Birth / Death list in the Events Timeline to include only major characters so that the table could be overviewed easily, instead of inflating it with large lists (the focus is on presenting the events, not the births / deaths). However, I see that people tend to add minor characters to it as well. So I guess we should decide a guideline for it, to prevent a kind of "edit warring": I prefer the first option, but I'd like to hear your opinions as well. <span style="background-color: #705EA0; -moz-border-radius: 12px 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Helix talk 16:48, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Add only major characters, and make a separate lists for all births / deaths (or simply use the Nursery / StarClan pages); OR -
 * Add all (or most) characters

I agree with you about the first option. ♥Ice shine★  16:50, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be cool if we kept this one as a more general one (like option 1) but then worked on another timeline that would go moon by moon and be very detailed. It'd be a large project but it would be pretty cool and definitely be something unique to this site. insane brick'd 14:55, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think Insane's idea would be cool. We can keep this Events Timeline general, but if we created another one that was more detailed, that would be something fun to do. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 15:00, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Rock's Stick
I'm not sure whether this should go here or Project Characters, but I was wondering if we need an article on Rock's Stick. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 00:11, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking of that too. I'd say it goes under World, since it's not really a character (no matter how much we love JayxSitck XD) I think an article on it would be worth it, it's had a fair amount of significance to the plot. insane brick'd 00:25, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should. ♥Ice shine★  00:36, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

So do I. Would we call the article, 'Rock's Stick' or 'The Stick?' --  Night s h i n e    ~  00:37, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say we should called it Stick (Item), as it's not really Rock's during the Power of Three, and The Stick seems unnecessary as there aren't really any sticks to differentiate from it. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 02:20, July 4, 2010 (UTC)