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Hawkheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well, here's Hawkheart. I like him about as much as I like Thistleclaw. (I. Am. Not. A. Hawkheart. Fan.) Still, I thought he'd be fun to do. All character art is fun to do! Hawkheart was a bit of a challenge, which made it even more fun. Gotta go see the coverart for The Sign of the Moon (I saw it while I was uploading)! Yay! So, comments? I'm kind of happy with how he turned out. :) Holly  dapple  04:19, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, but we've got to figure out which style we're going to use, yours, or Moonpelt's. Personally, I prefer Moonpelt's, it looks more flecked. But that's just me Night  Fall 04:38, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Nightfall. I know my Hawkheart doesn't look like Moonpelt's. I was thinking about how I was going to do Hawkheart for atleast four days. I really liked his/her style too, but I just can't smudge it in that cool way. I tried, but it looked horrific. I am not joking. I can't make it smudged without messing it up. Holly dapple  04:51, July 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well if we're using yours, lets blur in the flecks some more please :) I can see a bit of sharp edges in some a little. They are like REALLY sharp, but they're very defined and kind of make it stick out.-- Cchslogo.gif Gladiator  Band Geek Treble_and_bass_clef_heart.png 05:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. All spots blurred with Photoshop Elements, Shimmerpool. Did I get what you meant? I saw it on the throat patch particularly. Man, I'm sleepy. But TW is over, so I can get back to work! Yay! Anyway, if there are any other areas in particular that look weird, let me know, please. Holly  dapple  06:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

This looks nice. I have two small suggestions: the ear pink is a little big and is almost falling out of his ear. And the highlight on the shoulder, as well as the spots could do with some more blending. Perhaps try using the smudge tool a little on the spots and then blending. It takes some getting used to but looks good. 12:05, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Fixed the earpink, blended the highlight, and smudged and blurred the spots. I kind of like this. :) But I was wondering if since he's supposed to be "flecked", maybe he should look more like Ashfur or Ferncloud? Oh, and before I save this, if I don't respond to any messages right away, that's just because I may not be able to get to the computer (what with the homeschooling, cats, computer, and heat!). But I didn't smudge the paws because two of my cats have shag-rug long fur, and their paws are not smudged. Holly  dapple  05:03, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, maybe he should look more like Ferncloud and Ashfur. Darken the shading around the forearms and haunch a bit more-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:24, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that if you add a few smaller flecks to what you already have then it will be fine. 11:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. I added a few smaller flecks...I don't know if I messed it up. I darkened the shading around the forearms and the haunch. Do I need to darken it a touch more? Holly  dapple  21:04, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Add more tail stripes and darken the shading on the forearm and chest-- 23:06, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * smacks forehead* I forgot to reupload...ugh, stupid Hollydapple. So technically, now he's reuploaded. I did everything I said above...sorry. Holly  dapple  21:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Define and blur the ear-pink more. 20:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

He looks great. But can you...maybe add some more shading on the haunch? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

He looks wonderful! Maybe add some more stripes on his tail? 20:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks. I added more haunch shading, more arm shading, and more chest shading, as well as the tail stripes. I didn't understand quite what you meant about the ear pink, Frostheart. What do you mean by defining and blurring the ear pink more? Holly dapple  17:03, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ending is a bit rounded, make it more straight to be like a triangle. Other than that, this is fantastic. 00:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks, Frostheart! Don't know if I blurred the ear pink too much. If needed, I'll make it more opaque. Holly dapple  21:25, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller. 21:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. 22:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I just redid the earpink completely. Holly dapple  21:11, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more defined and blur it some more. 22:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks like its falling out of the ear, trying moving it further up. -- 03:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the haunch a bit. 19:53, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little lighter--make the color more neutral. Maybe add some speckles to his tail? Willow heart  1231  23:52, August 30, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Smudge the chest patches a bit. 23:24, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the ear pink smaller and darker. And blur it. 17:31, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller, darker, and blur it. I agree with Icestorm. I hate Hawkheart, and may StarClan light your path. 02:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Try and make the ear pink a bit more triangular Tawny (Talk) 21:56, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry it's taken so long. I had the image with the suggested changes at that time ready a few days ago, but Wikia convinently closed off the uploading, and I couldn't get to it for a few days. The ear pink has been lightened, shrunk, and more defined. It looked better lighter than darker, so that's what I did. I may go back and change the ear pink so it's further in the ear, but I'm kinda busy right now. I added a few speckles to his tail, Willowheart. They're kinda small, but...they're speckles. :3 Oh, yeah, and the haunch has been lightened. Holly dapple  04:04, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hold on, for some reason my changes didn't show up. Lemme try again tomorrow. Sorry! Dumb internet. *starts muttering about lousy dialup connection* Holly  dapple  04:59, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on his back. And the tip of his tail is cut off; try and fix that =) 19:32, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I darkened the shading a while ago, so I don't know if it's too dark...let me know if it is. Here's hoping the changes show up. I think he looks too pale now...I'm not going to explain why, but I'll probably darken him again this evening, if I get the chance.Oh, and as for the tail, I tried fixing the tip, but it looks a little funny. I'm going to try to fix it a little more later. Holly dapple  20:29, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

The end of his tail looks cut off. Desaturate the ear pink and blur it. Blur the spot on his shoulder and blur the shading-- 04:16, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

There's a spot under his chin where the patches and the gray part meet, but aren't blurred. Try to see if you can see it...(sorry, but I'm starting to become REALLY picky) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 14:15, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

A good color for the ear pink would be #F778A1. Blur the ear pink as well. Willow heart  1231  20:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

'''Reuploaded. '''I'm picky too, Tawny! ;) If I didn't get the spot, or didn't get it well enough, please let me know or draw me a diagram. I used the earpink reccomended by Willowheart, and I think it looks better--thanks! I blurred the ear pink as well, and gave Hawkheart tail-tip reconstruction! I fixed it using one of the blanks, without going into detail. I blurred the spot on his shoulder and the shading. Thanks for the advice! Holly  dapple  15:34, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge and darken the earpink into a triangular shape. This is really pretty Holly :) 00:11, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

lol don't worry, Hollydapple...you got it! This is really good! Picky buds! Earth bender Tawny Style! 13:00, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hollydapple, this is amazing so well done for your determination and committment to this image. This looks to me to be more than ready for approval and I actually think the earpink is fine as it is, though I guess that is a matter of opinion. Nice work at any rate. 18:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink, I think the spots could use a tad more smudging. 18:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Rockshade (W)-For Approval
Fail, fail, EPIC FAIL!! I am NEVER doing a black cat again...ha ha they are unlucky. I know the highlights on the shoulder are too noticeable, but if I blur them anymore, then the color goes missing because photoshops blurring is too strong. So...comments? Earth bender Tawny Style! 15:25, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Use a darker color for the highlight then you should use Pixler.com or Gimp although I use nether, I use My Paint but I alway have to remake the background to make it transparent Rainear   be as silent as rain  17:49, August 8,2010

Blur the shading, make the highlights darker. The shading is also lumpy and seems exactly black to me. Make the highlights smaller. Frostheart ♥  17:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I fixed the highlights, shading, and I lightened it. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:28, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 19:08, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are basically taking over the complete picture now. Just redo the paint, add some shading as you would. Blur, then just midtones in highlights, and click once or twice. Make sure it's not bigger than size 50. Frostheart ♥  19:47, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

He looks dark gray...I suggest making the image darker. Dawnleaf 19:53, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I realized that something changed in the pixlr highlighter, so get rid of the highlights, redo the shading and choose a slightly lighter color for the highlight, choosesize 50 and just pretend thats the highlight. ^^ Frostheart  ♥  22:07, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED:Frostheart, I use photoshop, not pixlr. (I only use it to delete the white part). Anyways, I darkened the image,fixed the highlights. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:30, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights smaller and make the shading noticeable in the leg area. Frostheart ♥  02:37, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I made the shading a bit more noticable, but I epically FAILED on the making it smaller part. ;P Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 13:52, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's much better now. Just even out the shading on the hind leg. That's it. xD Frostheart  ♥  19:12, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Ifixed the shading on the hind leg. Suggestons? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:08, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch,otherwise this is great! :) 22:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little lopsided. 03:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks fine to me. 13:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Same here. And actually, black cats are lucky in Europe, and white cats are bad. 0.o 12:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: fixed the hind leg shading. Suggestons? Tawny is here... 22:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading.-- 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Where, specifically? (sorry, but I'm starting to get demented ;P)


 * I'd say to thicken it on the chest and haunch but not the midriff, and to blur it everywhere =) 08:59, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Thickened the shading, but the shading on the haunch won't blur anymore, I'd HIGHLY appreciate it if someone could help me with the blurring, and I also lightened the highlights because I thought they could have used some brightning. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 16:11, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I opened this on GIMP and I don't think I blurred it that well. xD I think you darkened the shading too much. 16:23, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Frostheart! Yeah, my shading is now like permenatly black on like all settings, I don't know why. Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

You should change the opacity, it usually is on 50 you can change it to like 20. :P For Gimp, just adjust the thing at the bottom. :P 18:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I took your advice, Frostheart. Fixed the shading and lowered the opacity. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm very picky. xD The ear-pink is very blurred.... ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  22:56, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Great :( ... do I have to re-do it, or...un-blur it (is that even possible?) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 00:44, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is what I do :P. I color pick the area nearest to the ear-pink (the highlights,shadows etc) I fill the pink with that. It's okay if it isn't the exact same color. Choose an ear-pink color make a triangle, blah and then blur it. The blurring should even out the pelt color if it wasn't the same. 14:37, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to fix the earpink, but I made it MORE blurred I think....Random Question, but Frostheart, are you an apprentice or warrior for the PCA?

Yeah, I'm an apprentice. Why? :P

I just thought because you give good advice that you'd be a warrior, and you are very helpful!! :D Well when you get your 5th charart approved, I'll definatly be cheering for you!! Anyways, back to charart, any critcism? 00:23, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a little whispy, are you using a smudge tool? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:33, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hehe. Thanks. ^.^ 02:54, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

No, I don't use the smudge tool, I use blur...but I've noticed that it's looking sort of...whispyish. I'll fix it ASAP. 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder, school starts on Monday for me, so I'm not going to have that much time. So on Monday, someone is free to take this and continue to work on it, if that's allowed... 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'll work on it a bit if you'd like, and if it's allowed. :P 17:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading.-- 18:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: That'd be great, Frostheart! You can start the work immediatly on Monday. And I blurred the shading and highlights as much as I could. 18:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Am I allowed to keep up my Jagged Rock photo and help you work on this? 19:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it depends. I might leave Charart for a few months so I could focus on school work, but basically, yes. But I need to talk to Bramble about it... 19:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, don't leave. :( 23:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

lol if I don't my dad will murder me (it's happened before...) But I won't leave forever! Basically, I would only come on for like the weekends and a month at a time because my main goal is school work. But definatly by December I'll be a full member again.

Just blur the shading more and this should be ready-- 01:17, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :) Please leave messages on my talk-page to know your alive. :P Just blur the shading a tiny bit, it's great. 02:03, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading more, but if I go any harder, my computers gonna blow up at me. And don't worry, I'll stop in every now and then to tell you that I'm alive lol xD Any more Comments? 13:27, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Try blurring the haunch and chest shading a bit more-- 17:33, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading as much as I could. Still, theres barely a difference :( Someone else is going to have to try and blur it, because my computer will NOT cooperate when it comes to blurring (first it was too strong, now it's too weak) 01:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Comments before approval?-- 20:23, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights and shading really need to be blurred. But hey, isn't Tawny leaving the project? I suppose someone could always just touch it up for her. 17:43, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree with Mossy, but I don't know about Tawny. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:46, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Since Tawny has left the project, is this going to be archived? 15:33, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Well, she did give somebody permission to work on it, I think. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:57, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

If someone takes over, blur the shading. 23:28, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

She said I could take over, but I still have my Jag photo up, and I'm pretty sure that has to be archived first. :P - 02:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Frostheart, when you get a chance to work on this, give him a torn ear :3 12:00, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :P 03:49, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - And blur the highlights. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:17, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I will add the torn ear later. 20:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Can you add some highlights? I know they're not required, but without them it sort of just looks like a solid black cat. 07:18, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Something is really messed up with Pixlr's highlighter. -.- Should I redo this? 15:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Since this is officially handed over to you, I can comment on it without getting rocks chucked at me. I think that you should try to get either GIMP or Photoshop. I use Photoshop, it cam for free with my tablet, and GIMP is a free download off the internet. And about the highlights, I'd just say try to put them on as bright as they go (believe it or not, I think Shadow is the brightest setting..o.o) and set exposure on 100% to see if the highlights show up....it might work... Earth bender Tawny Style! 23:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I do have Gimp. I use both for an image. XD 00:45, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Tear his ear >_< 01:01, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

This looks weird, right? xD 22:13, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image, and add a highlight on his shoulder (I know they're optional, but you have one on his flank :P) 23:52, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty. :P First time using Gimp highlights, besides practice. XD 03:38, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lightened it again. 03:11, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller and desaturate it-- 17:44, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Done. 03:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and I'm not so sure about these things, but I think the highlight on his back looks kinda odd, so maybe blur it more or remove it. I can't tell which would look better XD 07:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Added a subtle highlight. Sigh, highlights on a black cat are so annoying for me. xD 15:21, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I added 2 more images. I tried a new style and I fixed up another black cat I made. Which one do you guys think are better? xD 16:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I like the middle one, he looks furry like a rral cat. just blurr the highlights a little bit on it and it looks good!! 17:45, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say the middle one Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 17:49, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. :D Don't mind the ear-pink on the third one. XD I tried blurring the ear-pink, but I can't without ruining the texture. 18:50, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good Frostheart. I would go with the middle one. 01:55, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

If you're picking the middle one (which I suggest you to, it's the best one ^^) then delete the other two and rename it Rockshade.warrior. Then desaturate the earpink =) 02:56, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I picked it, since everyone likes it. XD I'll get to the edits tomorrow, it's kind of late right now. 03:14, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good frostheart :D I'd suggest making the ear pink a tad bit smaller though :) 00:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really make the ear-pink smaller without ruining the line-art. 00:29, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the highlights then. 01:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Try to make the torn ear look more natural. -- 22:11, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. :) 16:03, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

It looks really dark, so I would suggest lightening it. 00:00, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

The color is fine, after all it's supposed to be a black cat. Dapple claw  00:05, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oh dang it, I lightened it one shade. Oh well. xD 00:07, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks okay! Dapple claw  01:03, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a smidge. 17:47, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Done! :) 19:12, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the highlights more circular? They're a bit oddly shaped now xD 00:54, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Whiskers (SC) - For Approval
First black cat. Hopefully it doesn't suck.--Shaf Girl  00:55, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger. 01:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes look really really bright. While you're making the highlights bigger, add one to the back and tail. And the face highlight seems really low down. 02:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the eyes, add more highlights on the tail. Echofall Fate is in your paws 02:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Lighten the face highlight. Darken and blur the ear pink. Other than that, this is well done. 14:01, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl  14:53, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

You still need to make the highlights a bit bigger on his flank. Make the ones on the tail more noticible. 14:56, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

This is weird...the new edits aren't showing up. You can see them on the two previous uploads before this one on the file history, but it's not showing up here.--Shaf Girl  14:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the haunch highlight bigger, add a highlight to the tail, and lighten his muzzle just a bit. Willow heart  1231  00:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I did all those things, and I reuploaded it, but the new version isn't showing up on the page.--Shaf Girl  14:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I uploaded it as a new file entirely, so now it's working.--Shaf Girl  14:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the highlights on the tail and haunch. -- I c e    h e  a r  t♥  : 21:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur Highlights. -- Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 16:44, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl  23:35, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Dark Whiskers.sharpclaw 22:11, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

I had to name it Dark Whiskers.Sharpclaw2 because of the error I described above.--Shaf Girl  01:47, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

But that's fixed now. Change the file name to Dark Whiskers.sharpclaw 21:52, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Just changed it right now.--Shaf Girl  23:08, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are really concentrated, they look like spots. Blur the highlights. --<span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command... 06:08, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Reuploaded. And the same problem's happening again...--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:34, September 15, 2010 (UTC) Uh, wasn't clara meant to do this??? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:aqua">Zoe27 <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:violet">Gossip Queen!!! 19:06, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Zoe Clara's two weeks are long past up. Imagewise blur the highlights. 19:36, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights need to be enlarged as well.

Guys, I blurred the hightlights and enlarged them. The problem is, whenever I reupload the image, the "current" image is the previous version before I reuploaded the new version. If you click on the image and look at the previous versions, you can see the version that's supposed to be the current version, but is listed as a previous version. Hope that makes sense.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  18:25, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

If you click on the image and it pops up in that little window, that's the current version. So before commenting/critiquing, please look at the current version.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  18:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

The image in the window looks the same as the one on the page to me. The highlights still need to be blurred. 21:55, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  22:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and give them some more shape. They don't all have to look the same; make the one on his neck curve more to the shape of his head, and the ones on the tail should make it look more like you can tell wheere the light source is coming from. Their placement is kind of off. 18:59, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights and, like Oblivion said, give them more shape. Black cats are really hard to get right. -- 00:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I know the new version isn't showing up, because when you click the image and it pops up in a separate window, you can clearly see that the hightlights are lighter. At least that's how it is on my computer.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  05:29, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlights look a lot better. :) But lighten up the image a little, cause I can't really see the cat's face. Otherwise, I think he looks beautiful! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:25, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:55, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (K) - For Approval
Eh, my apologies, his markings look much like the ones on his warrior/apprentice images. I can redo it, but for now, here he is. Comments? TheBlindApprentice 22:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather doesn't have an apprentice or a warrior image so I don't know what you are talking about. Darken the shading and blur it thoroughly, it is very blotchy right now. Add more tabby stripe and add ear-pink. 22:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. This is over the limit, so this will have to be declined. Try again when theres avaliable space. -- 23:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's fine. I just declined Egg's image, so this is under the limit. 23:37, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

. Blur it, I agree with Frostheart that it does look blotchy. Also, add ear pink. Make the ear pink a lightish color. Willow heart  1231  23:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I agree with Frostheart about adding more tabby stripes. And if you're going to add some on the legs and/or haunch, you should lighten those areas; the legs and haunch seem to be the same color as the stripes. 00:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Creeakfeather has apprentice and warrior images up for approval, this needs to match those stripes. Otherwise, blur the shading and highlights. 02:58, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather needs to be patched. 03:06, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I thought Creakfeather was a tabby? 13:28, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Er, I think there was a discussion a while ago, and Elorisa decided that Creekfeather should be patched. 13:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, my image is a tabby, it just looks patched. Elorisa -sama  19:44, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

LOL, I don't think you can decide to change the character's appearance. It's just the stripe style Elorisa used, that's all. 21:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. :P But this looks tabby, not patched, so..xD Could you modify it to change the other images? 22:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

It supposed to be tabby...just blur the stripes. It can be fixed. 19:54, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Um.. you should probably add earpink XD --

I see ear-pink..o_o 14:35, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

REALLY? The ears are gray for me.... like just plain gray... weird. Does anybody else see it or am I crazy? =P -- 22:56, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

No ear pink here either 01:31, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I can see the ear pink fine. Darken the stripes on the forearms and tail-- 01:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened stripes and added highlights. Sorry for the wait, I was kinda distracted. TheBlindApprentice 17:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

This needs to look like his warrior image which has been approved. 00:58, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for creating such a hard image to copy xD. This looks wonderful, just blur the highlight on his chest. 11:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay NOW I can see the earpink LOL maybe make the patches more... patchy? Lol idk how to describe it, but it looks a little too regular. 00:17, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm...I still don't see an ear pink. at all. Make him darker and change his stripes, he doesn't look like the warrior/apprentice pictures. 04:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is fine, Iceheart. 04:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't know, considering i can't SEE it. 04:34, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

That must be your computer Iceheart. I can see it very clearly. Blur the earpink a tiny bit. 19:58, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

no I dont see it either O.o<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  22:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oi, Sorry for all this fuss over the earpink. When I first uploaded it, I had forgotten to add some, but I reuploaded, I'll upload again, hopefully it works this time. TheBlindApprentice 23:00, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I can see it now, blurr the highlights on the chest. 23:49, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the earpink. 00:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred highlights, earpink, and stripes. I'm thinking of making two images, one with his stripes more patched, and one that looks just like this. Then you guys can debate over which one I should keep editing. Foggy Latin Freak 23:27, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Rainwhisker (Alt A)-For Approval


Rainwhisker as he appeared in 'A Clan In Need' 23:16, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Someone get it out of this box! XD 23:18, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it. :P 23:19, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the spots and make the earpink darker (a little) and bigger. 00:36, September 11, 2010 (UTC) 10:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Making the earpink bigger wouldmake it too big, Iceheart. But yes, make it darker. Blur the spots. 01:17, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Made ear pink darker and tried to blur spots without over blurring. Didn't work XD. 01:28, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I remember it being said we didn't do alterntae images for when a cat was just shown in a picture a certain way because the artist guy always screws stuff up? 01:46, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Really? I'm new here, remember that. 01:54, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wait a minute- what about Ice and Snake? They have alt images. 01:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the patches on his tail. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:06, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 02:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we should have this image here, we can only guess what color his fur and patches are. <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...06:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

You know, I was looking around for an image to do and saw on Rainwhisker's page in the Trivia section 'Rainwhisker is shown as a gray and white tom in A Clan in Need' 11:49, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It could be a gray tom with a white belly, if you know what I'm saying. ;) Also, in the trivia section, it does not have a source, so it could be false or something. :P 15:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Just went to Books a Million and checked A Clan In Need and it's true- he's a grey and white tom 16:14, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I see gray splotches around the image. Remove them. 20:41, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Something's wrong with Gimp- I can't do ANYTHING! It's stuck on blur when I was making another version more accurate to the manga and poof- It got stuck! 21:30, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sigh- I'm sad to do this but I'll withdraw this b/c of stupid Gimp. Someone can take over for me if they want.... 01:27, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

You may just need to restart your computer. GIMP freezes on me all the time. It works just fine after I restart it. 01:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! 14:02, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I put up another version more accurate to the manga up to consider. I don't know which one to use :P 15:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think the first one looks better, but that's just my opinion. 15:39, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but the second one's more accurate to the manga. 15:42, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Either way, make the ear-pink darker and a little bit bigger. It isn't very noticiable. 20:55, September 12, 2010 (UTC) 01:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 21:35, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Which image are you working on? Blur the shading on the second one. 19:48, September 15, 2010 (UTC)'

1st one's pretty while the second one's accurate to the manga :P I'm asking users which one they prefer and stuff. I blurred the shading as much as I could 22:02, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I prefer the first one, but blur the earpink on the second one 02:21, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred earpink. I think I'll have to do the pretty one from the looks of it. 10:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Just realized that he 1st one's ear looked weird so I fixed it XD 00:05, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink still needs to be darker. 12:26, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

On which one? 21:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well both of them, but which ever one you are working on. XD 02:18, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Better? I darkened the ear pink and removed the second one 11:11, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit more triangular. 23:32, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest using the smudge tool to smudge it into a triangular shape. 00:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 01:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make it stretch out farther into the ear. 01:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should use the other one if it's more accurate to the manga, since this is an alt. for the manga. We can't say, oh, well, the mangas are unaccurate, this time, because this is for the manga. 21:21, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Kay then, fished it out of the trash 10:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

About the ear, I just fixed it 23:12, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy (Alt. Queen) - For Approval
Comments? Elorisa -sama  23:25, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable and the shading more noticeable too. 23:40, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is really light, darken it and blur the shading, otherwise, this is beautiful :) <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...03:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks Sunny. Better? 12:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I still can't see the ear-pink. 15:21, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It looks sort of gray. 20:52, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Must be some pale gray. xD I see it fine, though the shading is a bit blotchy. 20:54, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

The colour is fine, but I agree, the shading is kinda blotchy, so blur it ^^ 02:26, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I can't do her anymore. Withdrawing. 12:29, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 16:28, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I could finish this up, if that's okay with Elorisa. 12:28, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Its fine. Cobalt paw  ღ  12:38, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I will start working on it! :) 01:47, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

@Whitestorm, make sure you darken the shading and make the ear-pink more noticeable. :) 02:58, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm not sure if I made the shading dark enough. 02:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more--it looks a little blotchy. 02:37, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, also, there is some blurred line-art in various places. 02:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? 03:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Daisy.queen.alt, blur the shading a ton, and there is some blurred line art. Did you start a new layer for the shading? 19:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading. Darken a ton. Make the earpink a tad more triangular. I see some spots on the foreleg, hind haunch, upper back, and tailtip where lineart is blurred. Echo Leaf-fall.. 00:11, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink into a triangular shape. the shading along the back has a black smudge there. I think it's the line-art. 00:26, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is fine. 14:28, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Frostheart, I have to agree with them. The ear pink sort of looks like a blob to me -.- It's really good, other than that, though! 21:18, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I fixed the blurred line-art and ear-pink. Also, darkened the shading but I am not sure if it is enough. 22:03, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading along the back, and add shading to the face. Also blur the ear pink. -- 22:14, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred the ear-pink and shading, but I don't think she needs any shading on her face. 23:06, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I really think the shading on the edge of the tail, belly, foreleg and, most prominently, the back really should be blurred more! 13:01, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I blurred it enough, but I'm not sure. 18:17, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

The back shading is really dark...lighten it. 18:31, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I lightened it enough. 19:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good now, just blur it so it's not so blotchy. 01:34, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ice (Alt R)-For Approval
heres Ice as he is in "A clan In Need". Comments? <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 23:29, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Iceheart already has this up for approval. 23:39, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Before you post something, check to make sure the information you are putting is absolutely correct. I do believe Iceheart had Snake up for approval, who is Ice's brother. Moreover, I've just approved Snake. -- 23:42, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Darken the shading a bit and blur the ear pink-- 23:46, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry Bramble. I thought Iceheart had Ice up. Blur the ear-pink. 23:51, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Ya, i did Snake. Make the first stripe darker or blurr the second (i had the same problem). Maybe make the nose grey, because it's on the black fur. 00:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back and belly shading. 16:56, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Uploader's not working for me. :( <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 03:26, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the earpink a little less hot pinky. 18:27, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, less hot-pink. Also, make it bigger. 20:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

It is not hot-pink. But I agree, make the ear-pink bigger. 20:34, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded fixed most but like I said The uploader wasn't working. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 00:37, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

This looks lovely :) But the collar spikes are weird. Also, darken the black patches. 23:13, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The first black patch now is wierd, sorry. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 00:34, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. In fact, everything except the tail-shading looks wonderful. Blur the shading on the tail a bit, though. 02:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded How about now? is it good enough? <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 02:42, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ehh, I still think you should make the black darker. 03:44, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

When I do that it looks like a black stripe with gray sides. this is as dark as I can allow it to be with out looking crazy. Sorry.<span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <sub style="line-height: 1em; "><span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 22:45, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks great. Don't darken the stripe any more, and yes, Fiercestar, the tail looks good. 01:40, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Maybe lighten the ear pink a tad. Out Page

Reuploaded Lightened ear pink. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 19:17, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, does Ice need reinforced dog claws? I'm not sure. :P 17:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Snake got the claws, so i think he does to. Add some big claws 17:11, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded added claws, but look Here. you see any claws. It doesnt matter if his brother has them. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 20:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Try adding a bit more white by the flank. 23:30, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Where? On the leg, or on the side?<span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 23:33, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome job! The only thing I can see is that the back hind leg looks kinda flat, so maybe add some extra shading at the very top of it, where the leg meets the belly. I think it'd be darker there. 23:26, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlight on the hind leg nearest to the tail (Sorry xD) 00:28, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed.<span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 20:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't the nose supposed to be pink? 15:38, September 26, 2010 (UTC)\

Nope, cuz there's black around the nose so he'd have a black nose. 21:17, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Pebbleheart (W) - For Approval
I hope this looks alright! My fourth charart! :) Comment for approval? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading a bit, center the earpink and desaturate it. 01:15, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and darken the shading. 01:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:51, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger and blur them. =) 20:40, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 20:58, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little lighter. 22:02, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:07, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripes look sorta unatural, but maybe thats just me. <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...22:42, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it does look a bit un-natural. Maybe you should try another style of tabby? But again. might just me. 15:13, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

yes also there is a pixel on his chest that is not colored in <font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  18:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I was just trying to get the stripes to match up with the design on his medicine cat charart. But if you all think they need to be redone, I'll give it a go. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 19:17, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I re-did the tabby pattern... What do you think? Comments? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 19:37, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I like how his stripes are now, make the ear pink a bit smaller. 19:50, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ends of the stripes sharper. 19:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink as well. 20:18, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 20:31, September 12, 2010 (UTC).

Lighten it to match the first color image. Sorry. :P That one is the same color as Pebbleheart's other image. 20:33, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear-pink bigger. :) 20:47, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected, except for the ear pink. I think it's big enough... ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:03, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:52, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:39, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten him a bit, so he matches his warrior image. 05:26, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:36, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's beautiful, but define the stripes a bit more =) 02:33, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected! :) 21:57, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Center the ear pink and lighten it-- 17:50, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 21:42, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

It's a little too light now, make it more reddish. -- 03:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the ear-pink should be biggger. On your first image, the ear-pink is bigger than it is now. 12:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 13:58, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is way too bright. 17:08, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 20:00, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

It looks red to me, though it might just be my computer. 02:15, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. Sorry, but updates will start coming more slowly. School's getting more complicated and I have Stage crew. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 03:27, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, and make it a bit lighter as well. 23:29, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. I got the color from his medicine cat charart, but I'll re-do it if you think i should. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 00:17, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and put it closer to the ear, it isn't very close to the ear now. 03:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink and blur the highlight on the face. This is really good :) 00:29, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

re-uploaded and corrected. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. I lightened up the image. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:42, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I love this image though, its quite dark compared to his other images, I suggest lightening it a bit. Blur the earpink a little bit as well. -- 22:06, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it's a bit dark compared to his mc charart. But idk how to lighten it without having having to do the whole charart over again. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:18, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and corrected. Well, I tried to lighten it up a bit. Idk if it looks really bad... ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 03:41, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I really love this image. :) Add one more stripe on his tail. 15:33, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

It has the same number of tail stripes as his med. cat image. I think this looks great. CBA? 17:41, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Petalnose (W) - For Approval
Well, my first charart. Bad, but who cares!!!! Comments??? <span style="color:Maroon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Silver;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Maroon;">Alpha  Power to the Pack!  01:54, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

The eye has a purple tint 01:58, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Add and darken the shading along her back and add some shadows between her ears on her forehead. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:59, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

This is great for a first charart! Darken the shading along her back. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:aqua">Zoe27 <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:violet">Gossip Queen!!! 17:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading around the whole thing, and possiblr lighten the tail a little. 22:40, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. -- 22:44, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and thicken the shading a lot. Make the ear pink smaller. 23:09, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: Fixed everything. Comments? <span style="color:Maroon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Silver;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Maroon;">Alpha  Power to the Pack!  20:19, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the neck under the head. See Hazeltail's warrior image for an example. Blur the shading, too. 21:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Blur the shading. Our User Page

Updated: Like this? <span style="color:Maroon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Silver;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Maroon;">Alpha  Power to the Pack!  14:00, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it a bit more. -- 16:49, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink. 12:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, blur it, and thicken it. 17:07, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: Is THIS blurred enough? <span style="color:Maroon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Silver;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Maroon;">Alpha  Power to the Pack!  19:29, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it more. It helps if you smudge it, blur, smudge, blur, etc. Willow  heart  1231  02:21, September 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Thicken the shading. 03:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think It's thick enougth Rainear   Let the rain guide you  03:37, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the head and midriff. 21:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a tad bit smaller. 00:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Frecklewish (MCA) - For Approval
02:51, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make her stripes a bit thinner. 02:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, this doesn't look that much like her other image. Lighten it, add some specks to it, make the stripes thinner and add more-- 02:58, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Did my best =) 03:03, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make it a bit more golden. Add more stripes down her back. Darken the ear pink. Make the arm stripes longer. -- 03:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add a smaller speckle above the one on her cheek? Define the patch on her flank. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 03:08, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Completely redid the stripes/markings, and darkened ear pink. 03:26, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Add some specks on her chest. Darken the shading-- 04:02, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

On her other images she has more mottles and the stripes are rounder. 05:03, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten her some more. 20:50, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 18:55, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Why is that one spot next to her eye so big? On her other versions she doesn't have a spot as big as that 19:05, September 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * -sigh- Re-uploaded and changed it. 19:13, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the reason this image is darker than Frecklewish's other two images is because not only are some of the mottled spots made like the tabby stripes are, but there are also mottled spots made by using the dodge tool for some lighter spots (I think). On this image there are only darker spots, but on the other images there are lighter spots as well, so add some lighter spots to this image. Also, did you add the highlights before you made the stripes or afterwards? I think that on the others the highlights were afterwards and made the image lighter. One more thing: I know that you got rid of the really big spot by the eye, but a decent sized spot should still go on the neck to match the other apprentice image, and because the neck looks really empty. Sorry for the really big and complicated paragraph, but hopefully it'll help. :) 19:54, September 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I added the highlighs afterwards. I'll make the stripes more like the other images by changing the opacity of the stripes; hopefully that'll help, then I'll do all that other stuff you said xD 19:56, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear pink darker? :) 20:09, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Or, more pink, perhaps? 20:27, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I added some lighter spots, and made the stripes lighter. 20:45, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Looks better to me. 23:33, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink seems a bit brown to me. 00:45, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Made earpink pinker. 19:32, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

It looks kind of like a cream color to me. 01:09, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the opposite haunch. It stands out a bit. Other than that... looking good! 02:36, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 20:48, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe blur out or enlarge the highlight on the haunch, because it kinda just looks like a brighter circle. It's not a large flaw, just kinda subtly off a bit. 23:33, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 00:10, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I know we're not supposed to just comment to compliment.... but.... Very nice. =D 01:11, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the head highlight, add more specks along her chest and shoulder-- 17:52, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 18:23, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the head, it's a lot lighten than the rest of her body-- 03:13, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 03:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the opposite ear. 08:51, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it needs darkening. The light source seems as if it is coming from the back of the head. xD Just because we see it from one side, doesn't mean the other ear needs to be darker as if it is a shadow. 17:07, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more goldy? xD 02:02, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 23:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more flecks to the haunch. 21:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading along the bottom of the tail. This is lovely :) 00:33, September 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * There is shading on her tail :) Tried to re-upload, but it won't work >_< I'll just have to wait... 01:32, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, re-uploaded. 22:26, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. :) 22:51, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 16:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? 17:32, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sagepaw (A)- For Approval
Sagepaw as an apprentice. Comments? <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 12:12, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur/darken the shading Darkhallows... Mew? 12:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

err...my Friend MAPLEPOOL has this charSpotteddapple 13:25, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

No..she has Birchfall alternate kit. Well, she has that uploaded. 14:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It won't let me upload the new version. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 16:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Still won't upload the new version. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 17:43, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make his image lighter, like his warrior version ->He is pale gray, after all :D 19:23, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticiable and blur the shadings. Also, the highlight on his haunch looks blotchy. 20:06, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and lighten the image. 20:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Finally got the new version. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 23:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink 04:22, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten/blur the highlights. 23:35, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed earpink and highlights. Anything else? <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 22:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, maybe darken was the wrong word. I meant brighten it. It kinda blends in. 01:42, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Match the ear pink from the warrior image, and then blur or sharpen from there. Willow heart  1231  01:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

(S) - Blur the shading by the tail tip. Our User Page!

I would still make the ear-pink a little bigger and blur it. 12:13, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Fit the ear-pink to match the angle of the line-art. 17:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and make this image the color of it's warrior image. 02:55, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say make it slightly paler overall and lighten the base of the tail a little. It's quite dark! 09:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 20:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights 00:34, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sooooooooooooooo sorry this didn't happen sooner, but homework and playpractice have made my life busy. Also, no Tuesday, my older little sister broke her elbow, so we had to spend three hours in the ER. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 00:26, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh no! I hope your (older little? =P) sister gets better soon! And this is looking beautiful, just darken the shading on the stomach and the hind leg away from us 05:38, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Run the burn tool over this a few times; its quite light compared to his other images. -- 20:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Pikepaw (A)-For approval
I am not sure if it is showing mine? Mine is shorthaired, but doesn't seem to be uploading over the previous version. Darkhallows... Mew? 12:42, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

O.O. What happened to it! 12:53, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yours is showing up in the thumbnail of all of the past versions, but here it's showing a stretched version of the other person's image. This happened to me a couple of times with my own images uploading strangely, and I just waited a while and then uploaded again, so maybe try uploading again? 13:25, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

There it is ^^- Darkhallows... Mew? 11:51, September 12, 2010 (UTC) 1193477C-A375-C968-069C-C1818BA7C5911.03.01

Darken the shading. 16:25, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 23:07, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The eye color looks a little unnatural, but that just might be me 01:07, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller, and you're right, Kittypet, it does look kinda unnatural. 02:41, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink not touch the lineart. 21:44, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink could be smaller all around. 12:11, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Arright. Darkhallows... Mew? 02:17, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

That looks better to me. :) S  t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:52, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the shoulder. 19:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 23:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the face. Sun X Moss Best Friends Forever! 01:05, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. 01:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

By the shoulder it looks to me like there's a random line going through the highlights. Also, thicken the highlights. 21:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blossomfall (Ki) (Alt) - For Approval
Sorry for my slight inactivity, marching band has gotten the better of me. I wasn't sure what the preferred way was to leave a new message without having it at the bottom of the page, so I just made one manually, but if I should do it differently let me know. Well, here's Blossomfall's alternate kit image. I had some troubles uploading it but now the changes are showing, so comments and suggestions? 15:20, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think this is over the limit. With Birchfall's image up, though it is in the wrong section. 15:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall's image may have been up first but Ice got her's up in the right section first. The point of the sections is to know how many images are up for approval. Images put up in the wrong section shouldn't count. Blur the shading and highlights. 16:13, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks Ashshadow. :P I was confused about that. Define the stripe a tiny bit. 16:25, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, you got to defining the stripe before I could say reuploaded for blurring the shading and highlights. I'll get to the stripe in a bit. 16:32, September 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm having difficulties defining the stripe because of the way there's shading and part of a highlight on it. Suggestions? 17:07, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 19:58, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I do not know, Icethroat. What I would do, is I would just redraw the stripe, and blur it, then add highlights and the shading, and try to make it as equal as i can. :3 20:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Whitestorm, I've already blurred the highlights, or do you mean blur he highlights some more after my reuploading. Frostheart, I tried that and it didn't look good at all, and the stripe looked too big. Personally I think the stripe is already defined enough, and when I define it is has to be blurred again and the cycle repeats itself infinitely; does anyone else think I should definie the stripe? 20:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire thing, she looks brown, not pale brown. Also, blur the highlights. Other than that, she looks great! 20:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

If you want it to look paler, consider desaturating it. 22:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I meant to blur the highlights some more. 23:16, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say the stripe dosen't need any more blurring or defining, you just might want to sharpen the end of the stripe. But that is just a suggestion. Dappleclaw P-p-p-poker face 03:10, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I meant the highlight on the stomach. 20:15, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry it took a few days, I've been busy (as it seems I always am these days). I think this is just the right color for being pale, and I think that I've finally got the highlight blurred just the right amount (it was an awkward shape, I had to fix its shipe by adding more and then darkening all of them). Comments? 21:18, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

No, this is brown, not pale brown (srry if i sound like a nitpicker) 23:50, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion the brown is fine the way it is. Dappleclaw Danger! Mousefur bites! 01:47, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't look pale, though. Pale brown would be like Fallowfern's image. 03:46, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree; try using the color of the highlights. Our User Page!

It is a little off, I suppose, but it is really good and I don't think you should redo the ENTIRE thing just because of a few comments. I think if you just dodge the entire image with like, the brush on 10%, it will look fine. Just my opinion 01:08, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I edited the image and made it paler to match close to Fallowfern's image by desaturating it (with the hue and saturation bar under adjustment on pixlr) before all of the comments past Flowerleaf's were put up, but my computer is hating me right now and is trying to tell me I can't open the file because it's in use in another program when it's not. Restarting my computer will probably help (hopefully), but if not then I get to edit the image again (whoo...there's a reason I save under a different file name on my computer each time...); however, I'm at a point right now in a few other things on my laptop that I'm not at a good point to restart it, but hopefully I'll get a chance to restart it tomorrow or in a couple of days. So please only comment on something besides the brown color until I can get the new pale-colored version uploaded. Thanks. 03:13, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

You may want to blur the highlights on the tail, and shading by the chest and paws. Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 17:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. How's this? Blurring the highlights on the tail actually made it worse looking, so I left it without blurring, since it was already blurred some. 16:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I still don't think she looks pale brown. 02:59, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I didn't see your explanation above. Scratch that comment, then. 03:00, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I've uploaded it now, so comments about colors are okay again (I didn't like to see five different comments on the color when I'd already edited it and my computer was just hating me, it seemed kind of pointless...), do you still think it doesn't look pale? i think it's really pale now... 23:34, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Personally, I think it could be paler, but...

Blur the highlights. 23:37, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's great! The colour looks perfect =) Perhaps blur the earpink a little bit 23:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink and blur the highlight on the chest. This is really good :D 00:36, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I still think it just looks brown, not pale brown. . . 21:10, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the color is fine. You have to remember that shading takes up more space on a kit. 12:38, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Indeed it does, Ashshadow, but she could just make the base colour lighter. 05:57, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I lightened and blurred the ear pink. if I blur the chest highlight any more, it will lose its shape and possibly ruin the entire image. As for the color, I want it to be pale brown, not light brown, and it doesn't have to be the exact same color as another image with the same description because cats in real life aren't exactly the same, so I don't really want to change the color anymore... (Sorry it's taken me this long to get to this, marching band has kept me quite busy.) 20:39, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Light brown and pale brown are pretty much the same colour. Anyways, I know they don't have to be the same as some other cat, but this really just doesn't look pale. I'm sorry if I'm being arguable, but I just really think it needs to be a lot lighter. 21:15, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnstripe (Q) ~ For Approval


I tried my best to copy the stripe style, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:00, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 22:03, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I darkend the shading, let me know it I overdid it or if it needs more, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:17, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

No, it looks fine. Blur it now, and make the earpink darker. 22:30, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the shading more and added highlights (let me know if you can't see them) Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:39, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Oops! I forgot to upload the pic first! Well then the stuff I said before, now. Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I can see them. Blur them a tad :3 22:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the highlights, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights on the tail and haunch could still be blurred. Also, the ear-pink could be darker. 23:12, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 23:16, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

She looks very yellow in this picture. Make her paler. 23:36, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I desaturated, let me know how it worked out, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 23:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Her eyes are a bit bright. It looks good now :) 23:50, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I didn't want to change the eyes too much cause that's the color on the warrior image to I darkened it a bit, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 00:03, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes a little paler, like on her warrior image. Willow heart  1231  00:40, September 14, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

They are the exact same color plus I don't see any difference (and how would I make them paler? Redo them with a differant color?) Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 01:14, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ohh. . . they seem lighten in her warrior image. Anyways, add shading to the neck area (see Goldenflower's image for help) and blur the face shading. 01:29, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

It might be because where I took the color from her stripes, or because her highligts are in differant spots (I'm getting on the neck shading) Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 01:44, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 01:47, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

this is good but i cant see the stripes very well Maplepool 02:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Their supposed to be barely visible, and pale. Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 02:24, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I know they're supposed to be barely visible, but maybe define them a tad more? They're very hard to see. 20:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Let me know if more is needed. Dappleclaw P-p-p-poker face 21:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you should make them more visible. 03:23, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dappleclaw P-p-p-poker face 21:59, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yep! Looking very good. But the eyes are kinda bright, so maybe make them (instead of all the same colour) kinda shaded? Idk how to describe it, but if you look at the eye chart....



It kinda explains itself XD 02:50, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I did that for Dawnstripe's eyes, but I can make them darker if you want. Dappleclaw Danger! Mousefur bites! 03:23, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I couldn't tell. lol so maybe, yeah. But the rest of the picture WHEW! I am blown away. Kinda jealous, actually haha 01:24, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! That means a lot to me! (btw do you still want me to darken the eyes?) Dappleclaw Danger! Mousefur bites! 01:43, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Personally, I think you should. Other users might disagree with me, though. Our User Page!

Don't necessarily DARKEN the eyes, just add a darker green pixel in the far corner and a few progressively lighter pixels in the closest corner (of the larger eye) 23:45, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, something seems fishy. Didn't Spiritcloud48 have an image like this up for approval, then it got declined because she was never seen as a queen or something like that? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Earth bender Tawny Style! 00:49, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Thanks for showing me Wildheart! I took out the gray pixels, and Tawnypelt, I just checked the page for characters needing pixels. Comments? Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 15:19, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

There are 3 white pixles one by the shoulder and two on each fromt paw -- 08:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I colored in the white spots, comments? Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 17:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading. 23:36, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the tail shading, honestly I'm finding it difficult without layers! I guess I'll have to do that for my next charart, comments? Dapple claw  02:49, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more stripes to the tail. 00:38, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dapple claw  00:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

A little more on the tail tip :) This is lovely Dapple! Sun X Moss Best Friends Forever! 01:04, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I added one, though it might not be too visible, comments? Dapple claw  01:49, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

LOL, I'm active today aren't I? XD I'd say to darken the earpink. 01:55, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - xD Thanks for commenting so much, it's been a while, comments? (btw is said to wait two minutes to see changes) Dapple  claw  02:10, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I understand how you would have a hard time without layers. I can't do chararts without using a separate layer for evetything. (not kidding, I use different layers for colours, markings, stripes, highlights and shading) At least you have the method I told you about for next time. Honestly though, I think this is really nice and near ready, just define the stripes and add shading to the eyes. 21:11, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Owlstar (A) - For Approval
Eh...Comments? 23:49, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur and brighten the highlights. 01:23, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Sometimes, I feel like the world would be better without shading :/ Keep the critique coming, please! 01:37, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. There's too much shading on the back, not enoguh on the chest/legs/muzzle area. And the head shading is very. . . straight. (if that makes sense XD) 03:19, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Better? 04:05, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add highlights to the flank, shoulder, and face. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 21:06, September 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Highlights aren't necessary, but either darken the shading or add highlights. 21:21, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Blur the shading. -- 01:46, September 17, 2010 (UTC)




 * Reuploaded - Added Highlights. 04:05, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights a little bigger. Willow heart  1231  01:48, September 17, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Reuploaded - Is this okay? 03:59, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is he supposed to have a splotch on his leg? 14:16, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Whoops. Fixed it. 22:00, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there is some blurred lineart in these spots: The top of the closer front leg, the back of the neck, the bottom and top of the closer haunch, and the chest. Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:19, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink and make it bigger, so it is more noticible. 20:42, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Really? I don't see it. I think it may be your computer. If I get another person telling me it's blurred, I'll fix it. 20:44, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I see the blurred line art. Please fix it =) 21:57, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the line-art. 23:17, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

The line are still looks blurred on the back of the haunch, where the line is flat, and on the back of the neck, beneath the ear. Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 23:48, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Also darken the earpink 07:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think you missed my previous message, darken the ear-pink and make it bigger. 12:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I do not think that the ear-pink needs to be bigger, but make it more pink. 17:04, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Better? 20:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Umm... I think you made it gray-ish. It needs to be darker and a lot more pink. 02:11, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I. Hate. Ear. Pinks. For. Grey. Cats. 14:24, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

If you don't like earpink on a gray cat try a ginger one. I think the problem is the color you're using. It's purpleish. Try a more red shade. 20:52, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to keep bothering you, but I still can't see it very well. 21:19, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - As stated above, I. Hate. Ear. Pinks. For. Grey. Cats. 22:45, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks sort of purple, try to make it bright-pink. 02:51, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Don't make it a bright pink, maybe a coral color. Darken the shading. 14:40, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - StarClan, help me. 23:24, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and blur the highlights. 23:31, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - How's the ear pink? 01:30, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

The color looks better, just make it bigger. 03:20, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the ear pink. I'm very happy with the charat now. >.< 20:59, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

There is blurred line-art on his haunch and ear. 23:55, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the haunch. 00:39, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - This is the first time I'm actually happy with A charart. 04:44, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

This is lovely :3 Darken the ear pink though. 05:14, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the chest shading. -- 22:01, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred the chest shading. This was the best I could do >.< 02:01, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

There is blurred line-art still on his haunch, ear, back, and leg. 15:31, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed it. 18:07, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Rabbitleap (A) - For Approval
It's very blah to me. What do you guys think? 01:22, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more triangular. 01:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Centre the haunch highlight, and blur the highlights. 03:21, September 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with blurring the highlights, but the haunch highlight is fine where it is. 21:00, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, blur the highlights and maybe darken and largen the ear pink? -- Fawny Keep on Smiling :D 16:16, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 21:13, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think he looks great! CBA? 18:18, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ear pink could use just a tad more blurring, but that's just me. 01:47, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ehh, yeah, the ear pink looks a bit odd. Perfect image, other than that ^_^ 07:29, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ear pink could be bigger as well. 12:02, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I can't change the ear pink without blurring the lineart, trust me, I tried. 12:43, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Okay then, nevermind. :) 02:09, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. 14:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? 21:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Great job! 23:29, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the earpink into more of a triangular position would make it look more natural. 00:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Pouncetail (Alt. A) - For Approval
This was all that I could find for him being listed as and Alt. as a She-cat. Comments? 11:01, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I just realized there was a dark patch of burn on the upper shoulder. Opps fixed it. XD 11:16, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

His alternate apprentice should be a brown tabby she-cat, not ginger and white. See his trivia section. 18:56, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Okay i'll get to work on it sorry about that. (: 10:59, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay thats better. Comments? 21:27, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, stripes, and add more stripes. 21:56, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and add more stripes. Make the stripes on his tail more noticeable. 02:26, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Comments? 11:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, maybe darken the shading and the ear pink. :) This is brilliant, keep it up! -- Fawny Keep on Smiling :D 16:15, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay so is this file named right? 22:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

There is a patch of gray behind the haunch, near the tail. Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:10, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Where? I dont see it? 22:14, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The file should be named Pouncetail.apprentice.alt.png. Also blur the stripes a tiny bit. 22:17, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry I think i accidentally put this comment in the wrong section! Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:29, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the stripes a tiny bit more(Sorry if this is bothering you, but it looks a bit, unnatural.) 12:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay so I blured the stripes as much as I could. I hope it was enough(= 17:06, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink as well. :) 20:34, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay I blured the stripes as much as I could and darkened the ear pink. 13:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look a bit bumpy or off-set. 17:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Could you please re-word that. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. 18:44, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Could you make the stripes on the upper half of the backside of the haunch have pointyer ends? Dappleclaw -_- 18:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. 02:07, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

There are 2 pale gray pixels on the back. I mean that the stripes are not even, like they're bumpy. :P 02:53, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay I tried as hard as I could to straiten the stripes but I had an issue w/ the coloring of the highlights. But I did as much as I could. And I fixed the gray lineart. (= 20:50, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ear-pink still needs to be made bigger. 21:12, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Oh, im so sorry Whitestorm I didnt see your comment! (= 23:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Blur the earpink more. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:19, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think it could still be bigger. XD 01:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm my picture didnt save thats the same one. O.o Fixing... 01:31, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry that I keep bugging you, but now it needs to be blurred. :) S  t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:49, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is lovely. Darken the ear pink and make it smaller. 23:28, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks great! The only thing I can see is to blur the ear pink. Good job! Holly dapple  15:48, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Thanks guys for the praises! 21:34, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the ear-pink and stripes more, still. 23:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, I suggest using the blur tool, but you probably know all that ;P 00:42, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- I had to make it a little smaller so I wouldnt blur the lineart. (= 11:00, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger, and darken the legs and ear furthest from us to give it more dimension. This image is lovely. -- 21:56, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Comments? 10:55, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lovely. Blur the ear pink a tad 22:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar (Ki) - For Approval
Would Pouncetail above be declined because the artist did the wrong coloring? I'm not quite sure... but anyways, here is my second charart! I had some problems on the stripes. Comments will be welcome!! -- Willow heart  1231  21:44, September 15, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart

Ehh, they might be able to keep it up and just change the colours, or tehy might have to take it down. Not so sure :/ 22:09, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, Snooky (W) is withdrawn so this fine either way. 03:24, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

So... any comments anyone? Willow heart  1231  03:44, September 16, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Try darkening the shading a tad. Other than that, flawless. 04:45, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

There is gray areas outside of the lineart on his tail and cheeks. 20:50, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Willow heart  1231  21:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Blur the stripes a bit. -- 01:45, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

His tail looks connected to his back (The end of the tail.) Otherwise, this is lovely :3

Reuploaded. I lightened the tip of his tail barely, so it would look more distinct, and not part of the back. And, don't forget to sign! Willow heart  1231  20:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Is it just me or is there blurred line art where the tail and chest fur meet? Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yah, it;s blurred. I looked at it on Pixlr. Also, while on Pixlr, I saw ONE pixel on teh ear that wasn't blurred. But that's quite minor. :P 02:52, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll fix it when it have time, right now it is 6:40 in the morning for me! 97.118.199.158 12:41, September 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Sorry, that was me, forgot to sign in... 22:56, September 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I do belive there is some gray above his tail. Dappleclaw It all started with a big bang! 23:13, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Erased gray, fixed lineart. 00:35, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink lighter. Besides that, I absolutely love it! :) S  t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:48, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the paws and define the ear pink. 23:27, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Added shading to the paws, and lightened and defined ear pink. 21:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Make the earpink into more of a triangular position. This is great! 00:44, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is fine. 14:25, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar Rogue (alt)- For Approval
Constructments? I took the tail lineart from his rogue image, if that's okay. If not, I can change it. 21:36, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his legs. 23:59, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

There is color outside the lineart around his chest and legs. 02:16, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

★Re-Uploaded★ Done. Did I blur the leg shading enough? 06:41, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I can barely see the lineart. Lighten the whole thing. 17:38, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine. 17:41, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

darken the earpink 00:26, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

★Re-Uploaded★ Darkened ear pink. 21:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights. This is really quite lovely :3 00:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten your highlights. 03:21, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ehh. . . I'm confused. Should I make them brighter or lighter? XP 04:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

LOL, do both and then blur them :P 05:27, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, how can I make them brighter and lighter? I'm going to make them brighter since I can't really see them :/ 21:06, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't brighter and lighter the same thing? o_O I'm not really sure...anyways, darken the shading a tad. 15:29, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

★Re-Uploaded★ I get why some people hate shading black cats now >_< Anyways, I think he looks better now. 17:19, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Snooky (W) - For Approval
I'm not so happy with this one...Comments?-- 06:17, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty, but blur the patches a ton, to make it look more natural. 06:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred patches. I think I made it worse, hm-- 06:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The patches on his other image aren't very blurred at all, really, and they're rounder, too. 07:25, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Its very pretty but i think it shold be consitant to the other images. -- 07:50, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I re did it. This time I didn't blur the patches as much. Comments?-- 16:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the white lighter, it looks more like pale grey. -- 16:49, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I like the spots anyways. xD I agree, make the white whiter, it looks silver to me. Triangulate the ear-pink a bit more. 17:00, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded changed ear pink and lightened white areas-- 17:18, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks silver to me 17:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded lightened it more. I think the shading might be making it look dark-- 17:54, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I thought, I kinda like it this way, it makes it look all mysterious. :P Blur the ear-pink. 17:56, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred ear pink-- 18:04, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Midriff shading looks too straight. Either blur it or change it. 19:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded how is it now?-- 20:18, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Way better, but a few of the patches are just a bit too big. 02:13, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Which ones? I think I might be able to make them smaller.- 03:09, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's hard to describe the location of them, but one on his upper back and two by his haunch. Also, the one around his eye and the one by his ear. They don't need to be much smaller, just a little. 21:28, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches again. 22:08, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

This sorta looks..cartoony? xD 00:16, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made patches smaller. If I blur it more it won't be defined enough. How is it cartoony?-- 00:25, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think she means because the patches seem fake, blur them some more. S t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:42, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

If I blur them more it will be too blurred-- 22:47, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink 23:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Night I think it might be the way you're shading and higlighting because the patches look like they can be blurred more. Maybe try smudging the edges a tiny bit. 23:37, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred the edges a bit. I didn't change the ear pink because I think it looks fine-- 23:52, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

If she blurs the patches very much more then it will appeared too blurred in comparison to his KP image. Blur the shading a bit. 04:44, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred shading-- 23:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little bit bigger. 00:49, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made ear pink bigger-- 01:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlight on the haunch. This is beautiful! 01:33, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, lighten the highlights. Add more small spots in various places. 03:21, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

This is beautiful. The highlights look fine to me; lightening it anymore would make it look unnatural. -- 21:53, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I added a few more spots, but I didn't change the highlights-- 22:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear pink a tiny bit bigger? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, I think it's a good size right now.-- 01:26, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

You possibly could afford to move it up a pixel, but I don't know, it might make it look worse. I think it looks awesome now, but there are a few spots that are very very small, make them a tiny bit bigger, maybe? 05:54, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made spots bigger-- 15:29, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Comments before approval? 17:27, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Skipper (R) - For Approval
Since one image is declined, this should be under the limit. Comments? 15:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The under shading is almost to straight and just a little to dark. But it looks awsome other than that! (= 15:28, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Skipper is a ginger and white tom. I always imagine that like a full ginger cat with a white muzzle, paws or part of the tail. This is just a white cat with ginger patches. Does anyone else agree? Also, blur the ear pink-- 15:30, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well I guess yeah, but I do like that color ginger and like Night shine said where the white should be I agree. But Cherryfur this is really good art good work. (= 15:46, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Technically, a two-colored cat (i.e. ginger and white, brown and white, black and white, brown and black, etc.) can be one color pelt with the other color muzzle, paw, tail, etc., but it can also be with patches, so I think the patches are fine as they are. I think the ginger looks a tad bit brown, though, so saturatate the ginger some. The shading goes too much from dark gray to white without much transition between, so make the shading a bit smoother, and add some shading to the face as it looks kind of bland. The shading looks like a straight line across, make it look more to match the shape of the image and direction you want the light to come from. And one more thing: change the image name from Skipper.Rogue.png to Skipper.rogue.png. 15:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat, but for some reason, I always think of a ___ and white cat is usually white bellied or white pawed. xD Make the ear-pink bigger and blur. 16:58, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree as with Icethroat as well, but usually a patched cat has a few big patches or smaller patches only around their back and on their head with a coloured tail. That's just me, though. Also, his eyes are very dark. 18:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the eye color is fine, Crowfeather's eyes are darker. 18:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Before I started the image, I looked at Gorsepaw and Snooky's pages. They're described as one color and white and they've got patches, so I just assumed I could do the pic like that. But now that I think of it, I probably should have done it the other way. I'm not really sure anymore xP 19:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. 21:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm having trouble naming the image the right name (stupid computer). So.... I can't really fix that (I just realized it was named Skipper.rogue.png.png before. Now, it's still named Skipper.Rogue.png) :\ 22:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Open the link on the image and click edit page, put the Rename Tag of, and then an admin will move the page and rename it for you. :) Also, the shading still looks too much of an immediate transaction, keep the paws and bottom of the legs the dark shading color, but lighten the shading between the belly and middle of the legs some to have it not so immediate. (Does that make any sense? I can re-explain if needed.)  23:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink, but besides that I love it! 02:02, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

He's very. . . bright. The ginger should probably be a paler colour. 02:11, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink and desaturate the ginger, the splotch on his tail is red to me, too. 02:49, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the white transistion. Great job. 22:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, Whitestorm, Ice, and Shadowshine (I should have thanked you in the other response, but I forgot :P). Anyway, is this better? 23:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten and blur the tail patch. Blur the ear pink. 23:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? 23:26, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller, it's really big. 03:18, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Done. Anything else? 20:09, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

There is some blurred line-art around the legs, and the ear. 20:18, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is there anything else? 20:33, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate some of the really dark patches, because they're kind of reddish. Oh, and you blurred the lineart a little bit on the tip of the tail. 23:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpen and darken the patches and make the ear pink darker. 00:50, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the patches are dark enough as is. Blur the patches on the belly, legs, tail, and chest. -- 02:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Still make the ear-pink bigger and darken it. 02:58, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't need to be bigger, just fit the angle of the line-art. It doesn't need darkening, either. 03:20, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 05:28, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the patches more. They're still very bright. 21:07, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ear-pink could definitely be darker. 22:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. It doesn't need to be too much darker, but darker nonetheless. 01:43, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this better? 20:26, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'd says so :) Desaturate the patches more. 21:06, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to desaturate it... but it just made the patches look brown :-/. 22:31, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Dustpelt (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well he was called a lightbrown warrior before so here he is. Comments? 20:29, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink brighter, and more noticable. 21:07, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

The reference on his page that says he's light brown looks a little sketchy... It's not *'d and the citation is worded wierdly. If anyone has whatever book it says he's brown is (It's either TDH or ADP, I'm too lazy to check), could you look on page 211 to see if it's a reliable citatation? 21:19, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I checked before I made it. It's relieable. 21:24, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt colour is kinda...of, to me. I think you should darken it a bit. Other than that, lovely. 22:03, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink just a bit. Looks nice! Echo Leaf-fall.. 22:33, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten it a bit. 00:11, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - He doesn't look light brown...I think you should lighten it some. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I lightened the earpink but i didn't change the pelt color. How someone views light brown depends on how they view brown. It's light brown to from my prespective. 20:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the muzzle shading. 23:21, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ice I don't shade the muzle. 23:24, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Minimize the earpink and blur the haunch higlights. 00:57, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

It sorta looks like golden-brown to me, but you don't have to change the pelt color if you don't feel so. Did you add highlights? 03:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the earpink needs to be any smaller and the highlights look no different when blurred more. 20:11, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval?-- 15:34, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, the chest highlight looks lopsided to me :/ Sorry for ruining CBA :( 21:05, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean lopsided? 21:12, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. A) - For Approval
Yay! My first charart (finally) for PCA. Comments? <font color="#14e168">ⓔⓒⓗⓞ I'm raisin the bar, I shoot for the moon, but I'm too busy gazin at stars.. 21:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink and shading need to be blurred Dappleclaw It all started with a big bang! 21:46, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent job. Blur the shading and darken it. I would say to add a highlight to the chest, but you don't have to. Darken the ear pink and blur. 22:01, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Ear pink darker and blurred, the shading is a tad darker and more blurred as well. (didnt add a highlight to the chest. i didn't feel the need) Echo Leaf-fall.. 22:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little bit more, and blurr the ear pink a little. 22:56, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the back, and a bit on the haunch. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:30, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and thicken it. Blur the ear-pink and make it a bit lighter. 00:10, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Highlights are optional. Blur the shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:27, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. Also, blur the shading, and maybe thicken it on the back? 01:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

He wasn't seen gray as an apprentice, was he? The citation on his page only mentions it when he was a kit. Please try and find one from later on or this will be declined =) Forgive me if he was; I'm being spacey :/ 02:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oblivion~ it says on his page that he was mistakenly described as gray near the end of Twilight.. he was an apprentice by then. Echo Leaf-fall.. 23:56, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thickened and darkened shading, blurred. Made earpink larger, a tad lighter, and blurred. What parts in general should be darker/lighter/blurred? Echo Leaf-fall.. 00:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and add some shading to the head. This is great for your first charart. -- 00:56, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I would still blur the ear pink, and move it a little higher, it is about to touch the lineart. 03:13, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the haunch. 00:54, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

If all of Bichfall's other images arelonghaired shouldn't this one be too, for consistency? 01:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think so. 03:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, no! -slaps self on head- I never noticed. Should I redo it and post again? Echo Leaf-fall.. 20:27, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Its up to you. -- 21:45, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Instead of redoing the entire thing, which might be kinda tedious, just layer over it with a longhaired pixel.... although I can't really explain it, so maybe ask somebody else for help XD 05:43, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Meh. Not too tedious for me.. though I'll probably have to go through a few of the same bits of criticism... :/ Well, comments? Echo Leaf-fall.. 15:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger and move it up a bit and it's hot pink right now. 16:37, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Leopardstar (Alt. D)~For Approval
Ta da! fourth charart. A mottled cat was hard to do. 22:32, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

When was Leopardstar a brown mottled cat? I checked her page and didn't see it, though, I'm really bad at looking. XD 22:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, Frostheart, it's in the trivia. The alternate stuff's always in the trivia. Echo Leaf-fall.. 22:40, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ya, i just added that now. I meant to do it sooner, but i forgot, but it's legit :) 22:41, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Great job. Make the mottles...more visible. Blur and darken the ear pink and darken the head and muzzle shading. 00:25, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- but the uploaders not working, so will try again another time 00:38, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Don't darken the ear-pink too much though. S t  o  r  m  1  7 Birthday Time!  00:49, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Where's the light coming from? If it's coming from the top, add shading to the front of the haunch, and if it's coming from the front, lighten up the chest. Dapple claw  02:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Changed the ear pink a bit, and lightened the chest shading. What next? 00:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is really well done :) Make the ear pink bigger, and perhaps define the mottles on the chest a bit. -- 00:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded 01:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the mottles a bit more round and bigger. 02:23, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I personally like how the mottles look, and if i make them any bigger they all melt together and it looks like a badly shaded cat. I'd prefer to leave them the way they are. 02:35, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the mid-riff shading. 00:51, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I would still make the ear-pink darker. 02:56, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the belly, and lighten the rest. 03:18, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded- Did what was asked. I'm going to be gone all weekend camping, so don't decline please and thank you. I'll do all the comments when i get home. 22:47, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm.. move the ear-pink closer to the ear, it is kind of outside of it now. 02:28, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I'm back! 19:12, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Teller of the Pointed Stones (Alt. H)- For Approval
My first charart! 22:36, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Add ear-pink. Also, blur the shading and highlights. 22:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add eye shading, or make them brighter, make the herbs different colours to. It's very nice for a first charart! 22:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the herbs a bit brighter and add shading to it. 23:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading. 23:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

For some reason it won't show the updated version :( 23:57, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Just upload it later or tomorrow. 00:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, darken and blur the stripes and add shading to the tail, add ear pink, fix the blurred lineart on the body and tail. 00:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree, nice for a first charart, but...should he have mud stripes? I'm not sure... Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

The healer never leaves the cave, so it doesn't seem like he'd need them, but i'm not sure 00:46, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

No, he wouldn't have mud stripes. Wow, this is good for your first! Blur the shading in the haunch, add shading to the herbs and add some ear pink. Sunleap 01:06, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think he should have the stripes. They are on his alternate image! Blur the shading and might I suggest making the eyes a little more amber? They look almost brown now. 12:12, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Starlingflight; his healer image has mud, so this one should too, for consistency. Blur the shading and highlights a ton, and add earpink. 19:12, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Should I do the white muzzle too? 22:11, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about the white muzzle, but blur the highlights. 22:36, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I still have work to do on it 23:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger. 00:23, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and blur the highlights on the haunch. 00:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes. 03:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. 07:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on his front legs more. Sunleap 21:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Add mud streaks. His original image has them-- 22:05, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink darker and maybe a little more pinkish. 22:39, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't he have mud streaks since he is part of the Tribe of Rushing Water? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  23:13, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think that, because you've blurred it, the stripes have become less visible and patchy. So just add more of those and define them, darken the ear pink and add the mud stripes and there you are. 05:07, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure, do the healers have mud stripes? 13:45, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Stoneteller's current healer image has one. Kittypet, please add mud streaks. 21:12, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to copy the mud designs on his current image. Sorry it took so long, I got held up with homework. 22:29, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is just the stripes, but there is some blurred line-art on the leg and tail. 16:36, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Rock Beneath Still Water (Alt. R) ~ For Approval
With an image being withdrawn and one being declined, this should be exactly 35 if I counted right (and i count things twice....sometimes) This is also officially my 2 and a half charart since Frostheart♥ has taken over my Rockshade charart. (wow, after I said I would never do a black cat again, look at my work!) So...Comments?

Darken the gray and make the mud more brown. xD Also make the ear-pink pinker. Thicken the shading. 01:21, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nice! Make the earpink pinker, it looks white right now. 01:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make his tail shorter. Darken the ear pink. 02:19, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ear-pink needs to be darker and smaller. Also, maybe the mud be lighter? I can't really see it. 02:38, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

And blurred. Blur the shading, add it on the tail and back. 11:20, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Definitely shorten the tail. It does look quite stumpy! XD 11:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

GEEZ slow down, I'm only one person. I'll get this taken care of ASAP Earth  bender Tawny Style! 22:28, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Comments? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:48, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, very nice =) Lighten the streaks a little bit more, and maybe add one more on the chest. 22:58, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you could add mud to the legs? Just a suggestion. Dapple claw  23:35, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the mud streaks and the highlights. In Europe black cats are lucky Tawny ;P 00:53, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Add mud to the legs. 03:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

And Tail! 06:11, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... maybe make less mud streaks but make them bigger? Either way, they still need to be lightened. 02:26, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Once again...I will get to this ASAP. I'm busy with school...but since its weekend, i can do all HW on sunday. Tawny not logged in.

RE-UPLOADED: Comments? Earth bender Tawny Style! 12:24, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Um, I really think that now it looks more like an olive-and-black cat rather than a cat with mud stripes on it! You might want to define the stripes a bit more and make them more brown. Otherwise I think it's perfect! 13:04, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the stripes look yellowish. 13:41, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes more brown and skinny, add one or two mud streaks on his back legs. 16:35, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstorm (D) - For Approval
I like this one! Comments? Cobalt paw  ღ  20:06, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger, and she needs a pupil. 20:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

She does have a pupil. Cobalt paw  ღ  20:42, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger, and possibly darken the paws and ear furthest from us. -- 21:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading Dapple  claw  21:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more gingery. 22:00, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Cobalt paw  ღ  22:13, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

There is blurred lineart on her legs and tail. 22:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Cobalt paw  ღ  22:32, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the pupil more visible and add shadding to the midriff. 22:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the back and stomach. Also, make the ear-pink smaller and a tad lighter. 22:34, September 23, 2010 (UTC)T

The eye looks weird. I think you should make it like Leafpool's. 01:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? I'm not going to change the eye, because its how I like it. Cobalt paw  ღ  01:52, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, because it's like Heathertail's. Theres still some blurred lineart on the back of the haunch. Dapple claw  02:05, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I really think you should make the pupil more noticable, it looks strange. Also, still make the ear-pink smaller and lighter. 02:23, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Very nice! Make the ear-pink a bit brighter, and bigger. Blur the shading on the chest. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:38, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I know cats like Heathertail and Brindleface have that pupil, but it really does just look odd on her. I can hardly tell she has an eye. . . 02:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

- The red indicates the blurred line-art and the blue that you should change the eye. I agree with Mosspool. Even though it looks like Heathertail's and Brindleface's, It doesn't match with most of our chararts. Also, Lighten the earpink. -- 05:09, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if the eye matches the majority or not. It's an acceptable style and doesn't have to be changed. 19:58, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

But, if the majority of the project disagrees with the style, it need to be changed. 13:39, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Cobalt paw  ღ  15:44, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. 15:27, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Stonetooth (D) - For Approval
...I like like dis one! lol comments? :3 <font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  21:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this the 31st? 21:59, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! You might want to make the ear-pink slightly larger, but besides that it looks great! 22:10, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Define and make the ear pink a little bigger like Whitestorm already stated above. Great Job! :) -- 22:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Beautiful. Darken the chest shading and define the ear pink a tad. Other than that, this is just lovely. Well done. 22:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED thanks for the nice comments everyone! :D and well I fixed everything XD anything else?<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  12:39, September 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * D Awesome! If you can, maybe make the stripes a bit thicker? 17:00, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Theres a tiny bit of color outside of the lineart on the back. 22:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

And some color around the neck. 13:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't that the shading? :3 15:37, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are off compared to his elder image. 16:34, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Brightheart (Alt A) ~ For Approval


My comp HATES this image. Since it's being a butt and I can't code worth a crap on wiki, you people must deal with this link. xD If anyone knows how, feel free to code it into an image display. For now, my computer it obsessed with the law and thinks it's an "illegal file type". Hopefully it'll stop after I edit it...

About the image, she does need an alternate apprentice image, because the side of her face the damage was on is facing towards you in her apprentice image according to her warrior image, and her face was injured before she became a warrior. The patches do not resemble her other apprentice image because I found that half of them were inconsistent with her other images. Comments? x3  Kit ties Rule da WORLD! Mumble sees a kitty!!! 23:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

She does not need an alternate apprentice images, injuries shouldn't count as being "alternate". 23:25, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Oblivion. 23:54, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Really? Someone had an alt. apprentice up for Briarpaw and everybody was cool with it. 02:36, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

But Briarlight dosen't have an alternate image, she dosen't need one. Dapple claw  02:39, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

A scar is different than being paralyzed. 02:56, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, they're both injuries. . . and she has some pretty big scars. 16:59, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the scars are enough for an alternate, but I'm just an apprentice.Well, the ginger shade doesn't match the other images, nor does the shapes of some patches. 18:19, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I added the charart for you-- 01:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not so sure actually. She was an apprentice for such less time after she received her scars, wasn't she? 12:28, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Brightheart never was an apprentice after her injuries as she became an elder afterwards. I think this should be declined. 13:33, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Brightheart never became an elder, did she? She just helped out. 13:48, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think she counts as an elder, even though she wasn't old, neither was Longtail. And I'm pretty sure she slept in the elders den because Firestar mentions after the battle against BloodClan she could sleep in the warriors den. Dapple claw  16:18, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

The reason the patches are colored differently is because of the shading and highlights. So, my guess, this is declined? :/  Kit ties Rule da WORLD! Mumble sees a kitty!!! 16:25, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be, but I'm not going to just up and decline it before I hear what the other senior warriors/Bramble think. And there's a forum on this type of thing, we should wait until we see how that turns out. 18:03, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps temporarily decline this until the forum discussion is over. If it's decided that it's acceptable it can be put back up and if not it can stay declined. 18:15, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, Brightheart was never officially an elder. Longtail was, though. Also, she was an apprentice with injuries, just not for very long. 05:50, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I don't think she was an elder because even when she was called Lostface, she was still showed as an apprentice with no mentor in the allegiances of The Darkest Hour. 07:43, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, she LIVED in the elder'd den, but that doesn't make her an official elder. They probably just thought she'd get along better in that calm elder's den, instead of the rowdy apprentice den, to recover because she was traumatized 15:33, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Whitethroat (Ro) ~*~For Approval
My first rouge, I like how it came out. Comments? -- 23:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the belly a bit fatter, not longer. xD 00:33, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think the belly looks fine. Anyone else disagree? -- 01:26, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you're supposed to edit the lineart. . .? Add a highlight to his. . . umm. . . middle section XD 02:35, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

The chest patch shouldn't extend onto his legs, as it doesn't on his warrior image. 02:40, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I've put a red mark around where the body looks funny. Make the highlights on the haunch lighter and color in the nose... If it's not meant to be black. 04:52, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Good job. Blur the shading on the white transistion 20:45, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a bit.... fuzzy. :D 13:30, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: -- 16:29, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

The white chest is still on the leg. Other that that wonderful. 17:53, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Better? -- 19:59, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose a lighter shade of dark gray.xD 04:59, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

If I made the nose any lighter, it would blend in with his pelt colour. -- 05:12, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

oh! I meant darker, sorry. :P 05:24, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Its okay. :) Anyways, I darkened the nose. -- 15:29, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

The white on his chest extends to his fore arm. Can you make it so it's only on his chest? Also, blur the ear pink a bit more-- 15:37, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: -- 15:47, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Whitethroat.rogue.png. 19:00, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Fixed. -- 19:48, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Macgyver (W) - For Approval
- Not that happy with this one. The patches were hard to do. Comments? -- 02:11, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add/darken shading, blur the patches, and make them look more like his kittypet image. 02:12, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Oblivion. Add a bit more patches, and blur the ear pink. Good Job. -- 02:19, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear-pink a lot and blur it. 02:20, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: The earpink looks funny. I'll get at it later. For now, I can't add any more patches, pixlr is mad at me at the moment -_- But feel free to add some patches if necessary. Comments? 04:46, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

It looks more gray than black to me 18:13, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more and blur the head spots, define the spot on the tail that looks like a 'I'. 20:42, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I've only done him for a day and I've lost interest. Sorry, patched cats are just not my thing. Please withdraw this. 01:05, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Then can I do Macgyver (W), please Sunspirit, I was waiting to do another Charart for a while now :( Rainear   Let the rain guide you  01:46, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sure. 07:28, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :D Rainear   Let the rain guide you  08:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, there is something weird going on with the ear. :) 13:29, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get right on it :D Rainear   Let the rain guide you  16:02, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Fixed ear-pink shape. Comments? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  18:46, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, and add/darken the shading. Also try to make the patches look more similar to his Kittypet image. -- 19:27, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe just redo the image. 04:59, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes that might be wise because his patches look more like wiggly lines than patches on fur (no offence mean't). But if you don't want to just maybe make the patches on his tail a little bigger. 08:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (alt. kit) - For Approval
I made it longhaired because his normal kit image is longhaired too. Comments? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  11:50, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Wasn't it Mothwing who was silver tabby.....? 12:17, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, it was Hawkfrost. I think you should blur the stripes, maybe increase and blur the white belly, maybe add just a little more shading and the left ear pink looks a bit lopsided, so just correct that! Maybe you could see Spiderleg's kit image for reference for the underbelly. 12:31, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Where did you get the reference for this description? The only one I see on his trivia section is the cover of Return to the Clans, and I thought it had been decided not to accept citations from Mangas, though I might be incorrect. Anyway, you need to add a citation to his page, if there is one. 13:26, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

He is, Whitestorm. Go look at the cover. Also, if Snake, Ice and Rainwhisker got them why doesn't Hawkfrost? Anyways, his paws are white on the cover too and his eyes are green. Thicken the shading. 22:28, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, also, I think you should make it shorthaired considering he is on that cover. 22:36, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

But Hawkfrost is long-haired, though. Oh well? :P 04:58, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well, yes, I know he is longhaired, but on that manga cover he isn't longhaired, so he shouldn't be in this image either. 05:46, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, lighten the white spot and darken the shading. 13:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Round out the white stomach, it looks to me like it's a square. 16:30, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger. 01:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall~alt.Kit~


My first char art comments? Maplepool 18:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Took it out of thumnail for you. Add transparency, rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png, blur the shading and earpink. 18:56, September 26, 2010 (UTC)



Reuploaded better?

I didn't mean to add png on the end, it does it automatically... If this makes it easier, rename it Birchfall.kit.alt 19:13, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darkstripe (Alt. W) - For Approval
Ugh. I'm going to kill GIMP. Stupid...it wouldn't blur the shading or highlights enough. I think I'm going to re-do this on Pixlr xP 19:49, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights ^_^ Maybe make his eye a bit more yellow? It looks really orange now. 19:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, blur the highlights a lot. Also, there seems to be a highlight on the far leg but not the close one, and lighten the entire thing a tiny bit. His ear pink also looks like a circle and it's very red. Also, I'm a bit confused because it says alt rogue but the image is alt warrior. 20:59, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll work on this later today. The highlights can't blur anymore. 21:01, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image and darken the highlights. The ear-pink is also like..blood red. :P 21:16, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I re-did the whole thing. 23:29, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights still don't look very blurred. Might I offer some tips? I'm assuming you use the same layer for shading/highlights and colour, so just lock the layer. (In the layer bar, there's an option that says lock: with a gray checker pattern square and check box beside it, check the box) then just go to Filters> Blur> Gaussian Blur and blur it however much you need to. It's best to take away ear pink and eye colour before doing so (if they're on the same layer) so they don't blur too. Mind you, this will blur the shading too but it works well. 00:32, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear is still very red and it is oddly shaped. 00:33, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Forum Discussions
I've posted some new topics in the Project's respective forum. Please post your ideas and suggestions there. Links: here, here, and here. Thank you, 14:48, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Editing tips
How do you lighten an image without having to re-do the whole image? I use Photoshop Elements. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 20:17, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Use the dodge tool to lighten it a bit (run it over the cat a few times until you reach the desired color) 20:30, September 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Does elements do layers? If it does you could simply color in layers and use adjustment layers to tweak colors... 20:38, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! A bunch! ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 20:57, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Joining?
Hi! I was wondering if I could become a member or something? I'm not very good at chararts (I'd post one of my random one's but I don't know how to do that) but I try, and I can learn. I guess I need a mentor first? Aspenheart 23:47, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Actually no, you don't need a mentor. I just stared at random charart and said 'That looks cool' so I made myself one and later learned MUCH more through Mistyheart's guide (i depend on that guide) 00:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

A lead will add you soon, you can check all of the apprentice tutorials for help. 02:48, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Scourge Rouge
There was a little bit of time before he joined BloodClan so shouldn't Scourge have a rogue charart? and if not sorry for the trouble :) Rainear   Let the rain guide you  23:54, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

He does have a rogue charart.It's on his page. 23:58, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

It says Bloodclan cat version, I mean when he didn't have dog teeth through his collor and he still had a tag/bell on it Rainear   Let the rain guide you  00:03, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

He got a tooth stuck in his collar shortly after leaving home and I believe he was still a kit then. 00:11, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Actully he shoved it in his collor but I think your right and he doesn't need a new charart sorry for the trouble :| Rainear   Let the rain guide you  00:15, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnyspots
When I looked on his page I noticed that he is said to have tuffed ears, however his whole body fur seems to be tuffed. Can this be changed? Quickheart

His body fur is not tufted; its long haired. It doesn't need to be changed. --

Yes it does because it looks tufted not long at all a good job was done with his warrior and apprentices pics but the elder pic needs to be redone. Quickheart

Quickheart it's not going to be redone. It's the way the lineart it. 12:34, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Please sign when you comment! No offence, but I actually I feel his elder image has the most distinctly tufted ears. His body is just long-haired; see Fuzzypelt or Kinkpelt for a tufted body! And shouldn't this conversation be in the discussion section? 12:34, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I also agree, the elder pic does not need to be re-done. 13:43, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Youre making a mistake. Quickheart

No, we are not. That is how the longhaired elder blanks look like. Nobody else has a problem with it, I think it looks beautiful. <font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  19:42, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, we are not. Don't tell me I'm mistaken, because I would have known. I also agree, it's beautiful as it is. 13:05, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Saying that is pretty much like saying, ''I don't like the lineart. You should change it, even though that would mean re-doing every cat who has an image with those lines, just because I think it looks funny''. So yeah. It looks fine, anyway. 18:05, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Alternate image
I don't understand what alternate images are for. Sunleap 19:07, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Alternate images are for cats with multiple descriptions in the books. 19:12, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, like if a cat is brown, and was called gray. You know those mix-ups the Erins make. 23:23, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Join
Can I join? <font color="#001685">Bluewing's Wrath <font color="#7700d9">"I will slice you open until blood laps at my paws, so you know how much pain I felt!" 23:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sure you can join! Welcome to the project, Bluewing. Bramble or Oblivion will add you to the board soon. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Minnowtail (Alt.Ki)
Ok my first character art. I had some trouble shading, but I think I did ok. Tell me what you think! I Didn't Slap You! I High Fived Your Face.. 01:27, September 27, 2010 (UTC)