Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

Next Content Drive

 * So, we haven't had a formal content drive in a little while- I put up the TFA characters one quite a while ago, and by now most characters have their history filled in. (It didn't have a lot of emphasis on it anyway...) So I think it's time we picked our next Content Drive. Personally, I'd like to do Cinderpelt- Since we just were forced to demote her from Gold, it'd be nice to be able to work her back up to the standard again. Do people like Cinderpelt, have other ideas, etc.?

I like the idea of Cinderpelt. Was planning on getting her up to scratch anyway as I felt sorry after her demotion. =) ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:31, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Cinderpelt should be next. But what will happen after that? If everybody is working on her, she going to get back up pretty quickly. How about the main characters of the Original series? (e.g., Sandstorm, Firestar, Dustpelt, Cinderpelt, but not Bluestar or Graystripe, I should think) Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 15:00, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that's worth considering, but I think we could spend one or two weeks working on individual articles and get them pretty much Gold-ready, and just switch whenever they're done. I don't think we'll make as much progress on any of them if there are multiple ones. (Which is why the last one knda failed XD) I realize now that the point of the Content drive is to focus everything on one article. It's a good idea though, to do some other OS characters after her, since a lot of them could easily be pushed up to Gold level with a bit of work (of course some need to be featured, but yeah...) Sorry for my incoherent ramblings, I was sick today and I'm still shaking it off. insan TA STE  THE  RAIN BOW  eu lar  22:12, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I got snowed in today. :) What about characters from TFA? ♥Mouse♥  ♥Heart♥   18:02, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Washington got 20"!!!!!!!! sorry OT there. TFA characters were the last drive. I agree we need a single character. ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:27, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Sandy, what character needs the most work on their article. Whichever does, I think that should be our content drive. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  22:49, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

So, if there are no objections, Cindepelt will be our next one, and once she's done we can move onto some of the others Maple suggested. insan TA STE  THE  RAIN BOW  eu lar  23:01, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yah. After I posted my above comment, I looked up and I was like, I'm an idiot. Sandy- 20 inches? We got six! :( ♥Mouse♥  ♥Heart♥   23:52, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. I will post her now, and compile a list of concerns on her talk page to be worked on. Let the content driving begin! insan TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:08, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Put up the concerns on her talk page, if you see any more, feel free to add them. I can probably cite her family completely later tonight, though. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:18, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Her family's done. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 00:37, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is she being worked on at all still? <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  19:45, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Gar, I kept putting her off, sorry! I'm doing a run-over of her history now. But I don't have my books, so it's more of a general touch-up than adding content. insaneular   Talk  20:02, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

All right, I cleaned up her history a fair bit (It was horribly messy!) but I still think she needs a bit more history added for TNP, with more individual appearances listed rather than generalization. The only book of TNP she's okay for is Starlight, since I have read that a bunch of times and could remember when she appeared. Also, if anyone sees mistakes I made about what she did, feel free to correct them; I was working completely from memory. insaneular   Talk  21:12, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nice job Insane, I was looking at my home and it was like

Cinderpelt- Insane

about 500 times. :) I can work on her some.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:15, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone see other major concerns for her, or should we look into a new content drive? insaneular   Talk  21:47, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Fading Echoes Browse Inside Policy

 * Woohoo, Sandy gave me a link to the HarperCollins Browse inside for Fading Echoes! Here is the link if you guys want to read it. We'll be using the same spoiler policy as we did for TFA, since that worked quite well: we will only add spoilers from the Allegiances (until the book comes out), such as name changes. Nothing from the actual book. If you see people adding things from the book, then just remove them until the release. This is so people who don't want spoilers before it comes out won't get them unintentionally. Is this cool with everyone, any questions or concerns? (Note: Don't post any spoilers on talk pages or anything either; since some users could still stumble across them when they don't want to. Try and keep any discussion about the events of it to the IRC or other sites)  insaneular    Talk  21:40, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I saw all the name changes to Blossompaw and Briarpaw and those cats and I was like, "WHAT?!!" I need to read the thing....-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:09, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

-facepalm- I'm an idiot! :(  Trout leap  23:11, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, it was just a mistake Ice, don't feel bad :)  insaneular    Talk  23:12, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

A Clan in Need browse inside has also been released, but I think it will easier with not adding information to articles since it's a manga. But, we get to see Crowfeather in mini version^^. <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  00:22, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I can't wait til they come out! Of course I'm completely broke at the moment but I get allwence today so. Plus: Crowkit+Leafkit+Squirrelkit=awww!-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:28, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. The book comes out in a few days, so we should start getting ready to update the pages! I'm getting it on release day, but not right after school like I did for TFA, so I'm sorry if I'm not able to help until later that night. Anyways, same drill as for TFA, as soon as the 23rd arrives, any spoilers are fair game, and first priority is probably adding history to the main characters, then cleaning up things such as the family sections and minor characters getting the alleg template. Just posting this so people who weren't here for TFA know what to expect, or just as a reminder ;)  insaneular    Talk  15:46, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

OMS! I completely forgot that it was coming out! I have 2 days! I can't wait! I'm going to be on here all day on Tuesday! After the hour it takes me to read FE.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 16:13, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Just finished reading it. xD I'm going through and adding categories, the header, and the book title in the book appearances. If it has a coming soon template on it, it means they need information added, if not, then you'll see the alleg. template in place. I'll get to actually documenting the appearances tomorrow probably. <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  00:04, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I just finished, and boy, it was GOOD! Anyways, I've already created pages for the new characters introduced (Wildfur, Snowtuft and Shredtail), but their histories are pretty brief now since it's late. I'll update them more tomorrow, along with StarClan, Place of No Stars, and any other characters I can get to. It's a shame I got it so late in the evening, or else I would have been able to do more today XD Also: I'm going to unprotect Molekit, Cherrykit, and Mistyfoot now (as well as move her to Mistystar) but I'd warn people to be wary of edits to those pages as they might get messed up by anons anway. insaneular   Talk  02:29, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Uh, can someone goes through Ivypaw's FE section and shorten it? I typed up just about all of her appearances and the article got kind of long... xD <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  19:10, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, since this seems to be kind of a task center now, I'll list the more major characters that still need history added:
 * Jayfeather
 * Lionblaze
 * Dovepaw
 * Tigerstar
 * Hawkfrost
 * Mistystar needs a quick cleanup
 * Firestar could use some expansion
 * Spottedleaf
 * Tigerheart
 * Cinderheart

Of course there's plenty more, but those are the most major ones, which are probably the highest priority and are also the biggest jobs. If you finish one of them feel free to delete it from the list or strike it :P  insaneular    Talk  21:56, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Marshkit - Silver Nomination
All of Marshkits points have been forfilled. Should this article have a higher nomination? Clara My Talk Page 16:11, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think you mean silver. Anyway, We'll need a description citation, and page numbers for his family. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 16:14, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys? When did it say he was a brown tabby? I haven't read the New Prophecy series in a while, but I don't remember it ever saying what color he was Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 08:01, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Right. Im going to check the books he was in. Clara My Talk Page 09:22, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed the title so it would be easier to read and get to the article. <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  19:45, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone working on getting the citations? insaneular   Talk  15:46, March 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I got the family citations, but when I did a browse inside sweep there was no mention of his description. I removed it for now, but if anyone else has any more luck with it then feel free to add it back in. ✐S  aN  dY  16:00, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone have other info about the description, or other concerns? insaneular   Talk  21:47, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Leopardfoot- Silver Nominee
Well, I checked her and she has her infromation intact with all appearences and detail.s A good sized article too. If there are references that need to be done I"m going to try them becayse I need some practice. Comments?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:50, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

She needs a citation for Robinwing being her mentor. insaneular   Talk  23:51, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

I did that, not sure if its right but I think its good. sorry, I stink at this. :( -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 00:05, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Err, the reflist template is just to list the citations at the bottom, not for the citations themselves. If you need help with citations maybe my tutorial can help...? insaneular   Talk  00:13, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

I am such a mouse brain! Ok, thanks I used your tutorial (thank you!) and I think I got it right! (For real this time) :) -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 00:51, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Um..it's been a while since anyone said anything. Is she ready or does she need more work..?-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 17:20, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's been like a week since I nominated this and there are no suggestions and its not up for vote. What happened/ what do i do??-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 15:26, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Apologies, Artimas, I've been a bit busy the past few days and kept putting off looking her over. I think she needs more detail and more minor appearances listed, since she wasn't such a major character. insaneular   Talk  21:47, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's ok Insane, what with FE and all you've been busy. It's not your fault. I'll do that now since I got nothing else planned. Be back.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 22:01, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

ok, I think she's good now.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 22:10, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Featherwhisker- Silver Nomination
He has all of his appearences down and I saw all his cites. i think he's good to go.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 19:53, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

I do! You're right. All of his apperances are down. Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  12:55, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

His BP section looks too short for someone who appeared every other chapter or so. Could you od a sweep through with the browse inside? <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  19:01, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'll do that now.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 21:33, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think he's good now, I did a quick polish and added more info.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 21:38, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think he's good. -- Ice Spring is here! 21:44, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I removed the plagiarism from his SotC section, but he looks fine now. Any last concerns? insaneular   Talk  21:56, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have got the plagerism. Sorry. :( -- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 22:36, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

His vote is up. insaneular   Talk  19:52, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Alive template
Hi,

I see the amount of work involved at the release of a new book, when the Members section of almost each character must be updated.

Won't it be easier to do a template for every character, that would be used in the Members sections? It would be changed only once per character at the release of a book, instead changing the entire Member list for every relative. For example:

Template:Alive/Firestar


 * Living (As of The Fourth Apprentice)

and on the character pages, you write e.g.:


 * Grandfather: Firestar:

Kind regards, Helixtalk 23:26, March 26, 2010 (UTC) That's a neat idea :) It would save a nice bit of editing when new books come out. The only thing I'm confused about, is why it would be called . Wouldn't we just make one called  and have it say "Living (As of Most Recent Book, rather than having one for each character? Forgive me if I misunderstood your point.   insaneular    Talk  23:54, March 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * We can do that way as well. The advantage is having a single template, instead of hundreds. The drawback would be that if a character dies, we still have to change the Members section of dozens of relatives (instead of changing a single template). Helixtalk 00:10, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I see why you did that now. I still think it would be easier to just change it on the individual pages than make a template for every single character, but if others like the ideas of the individual templates then we can try it. What do you guys think? insaneular   Talk  00:12, March 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, and another thing, there's probably a way to fix this, but on the family member sections, we usually only link the first time the book title is said, so we'd either need to have two templates, a 'parameter' for it (which I don't know how to code but someone probably does, like Lightning) that tells if it should be linked or not, or just type the first one manually then use the template for the rest of them...  insaneular    Talk  00:13, March 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * One question. One big huge question. What in the world does thee mean? Is this template used like the Alleg template to reduce effort. How will it only have to be changed just once per character? Wouldn't we have to change it for the character on all pages where they are mentioned in the members section? Perseus | Perseus  ,  Thou art not the hero | Thou art not the hero  04:16, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

The way I understand it, there will be a coding for a cat, say Sandstorm:. We put that in the members section of any article where she is a member of the family of that cat; i.e: Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Lionblaze, etc. Then, when the next book comes out, we just change the template to say: Living (As of Book name ), instead of changing every single page in which she is listed as family member. This is actually a really neat idea. It would save the amount of work having to be done on the pages. The transition will be hard, but after that it might really pay off. -- Bramble 05:02, March 27, 2010 (UTC) Giving it some more thought, we can take this to the next level by using two types of templates:


 * Template:Living
 * Living (As of Fading Echoes)


 * Template:Alive/Firestar


 * Template:Alive/Sandstorm

This would combine the advantages of both Insane's and my idea, i.e.:
 * When a new book is released, we don't have to change all Alive/character templates, just the Living template
 * When a character dies, we don't have to change the Members section of all relatives, just the Alive/character template

Regarding the amount of work: we don't have to make Alive templates for all cats; just for the still living characters of the main series (of course, it's still a lot of work, but it would pay off).

To reply Insane's question about linking: I don't think we have to link the book title at all; it already exists linked at least twice in the article (in the Charcat box and in the History).

Helixtalk 06:18, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I think I get what you meant now. That seems like it would work :) Does anyone have any objections to this idea before we start working out how to implement it?  insaneular    Talk  15:35, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Longtail - Silver Nomination
I've spent a while making sure his history is complete and polishing up the sections. His apprentices, mentor, and appearances are sourced. He has all his images up. Those of you who have read FE may know why I suddenly took an interest in his article. I will be happy to make any changes that are needed. -- Bramble 04:56, March 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just a minor thing... is it OK to mention such things as being blind in the initial description? (I removed it for now, revert it if you don't agree). He wasn't always that, and it can confuse people who aren't familiar with his story (first reading that he is blind, then reading that he went on whatever patrol / fight / training etc). Helixtalk 06:54, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hehe, I've noticed you quietly editing him recently, Bramble, and I was wondering, "Ooh, is she going to nominate him?". (by the way- want me to add you to the project? Just noticed that you're not even on there) He looks great. To Helix: I think it is okay, since if we don't put it there, it would be hard for others to notice, and we've done it like that for a long time. And it's not a huge spoiler, I think. Most people would probably just scroll past it. But if others agree with Helix, we can do that. insaneular   Talk  14:28, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

He looks pretty good, Bramble. :) Could you do a check on him in Midnight? It just looks a bit bare, unless he didn't an appeance at all? <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  14:49, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I added a little more detail and when he was mentioned by Squirrelpaw and Cinderpelt. It looks fuller now. On his appearance, it's a fair point.. I always looked at the appearance to just read the article. People on the first arc researching Longtail wouldn't know that he became blind in Firestar's Quest. Removing it should be alright; we have it down in his history that he becomes blind in FQ. The nick in his ear can stay, because that happened right after he was introduced. What do y'all think? -- Bramble 16:44, March 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * To please everyone, we can add it like "...later becoming blind in an accident" (instead of just "blind"). Helixtalk 17:40, March 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * That sounds fine to me.  insaneular    Talk  17:41, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Firestar and Princess' Siblings
I was looking at some family trees and I noticed that Firestar and Princess are Jake's only two kits with unknown she-cat. I don't think this is true because in Fire and Ice, pages 116 and 111 it mentions their brothers and sisters. It doesn't say how many or any more details but it does confirm they have more relatives. Should we put of the family tree 'unknown amount of brothers and sisters' or something? -- Bramblepath Brightshadow is mine! 15:51, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we need to, as it was only mentioned once. Plus, we have no idea the amount of siblings they have, so it would be hard to put down on the pages. At least for Mistystar, we know that she had four kits, so it was easier to put on the pages. <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  16:40, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Foxwhisker- Silver Nomination
Well, he has all his appearences in and he's pretty good. Comments?-- Bramblepath Brightshadow is mine! 16:03, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Everything seems to be added. Though it's short, it seems to be neat and well-written. Also, Insane, I would like to be added as a member, thanks; I forgot to say so above. -- Bramble 18:44, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Added you Bramble. And maybe add some quotes to the page, since he doesn't have as big an appearance, it would give it a bit of an edge, or something like that. <font color="#8e322e">→ <font color="#96aeb6">Sky <font color="#96aeb6">feather  18:48, March 27, 2010 (UTC)