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Stormtail - Silver Nomination
I've been working on his article all morning. I expanded his history, added quotes, trvia, and citations. What do you think? 18:15, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great to me Whitestorm! Good Job! =) River pelt Deputy of StormClan 19:29, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks amazing! :) The only thing is the citation for his description says "Revealed in the allegiances of Code of the Clans." Since Code of the Clans didn't have any allegiances (and Stormtail was never in that book anyways) he needs a different citation. 03:43, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I fixed it. It was revealed in the allegiances of Bluestar's Prophecy. I checked it myself. Whoever wrote that was probably half asleep. :) Anyway, comments before vote? 14:30, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait to put this up for a while, iy is still really close to the bottom. 20:37, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry. My bad. -MOON FAIL- 21:09, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it's okay. :) It's hard to get used to this many nominations at once. I'm not complaining though. ;) 21:16, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, it is a little higher up now, so comments before the vote? 20:39, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Vote is up. 20:44, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Bella - Silver Nomination
Her article looks pretty good. Comments? 18:44, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe find a couple quotes, but other than that it looks good! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 19:30, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Added a quote and a main quote. Thanks, Riverpelt :) 23:02, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

If possible, add another quote to her page. 01:27, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Literally the only other thing she says is asking where Firestar's housefolk live. 01:29, October 10, 2010 (UTC)\
 * Seems fine without another quote. That's all she says in the book, anyways. I think it's ready. Icestorm Trick or treat! 01:51, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I think she looks great. :) Comments before vote? 14:21, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wait to put this up for a while, there are a few articles above it. 20:39, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. *facepalm* 21:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before the vote? 20:06, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Vote is up. 20:51, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

I just put the CBV up today, sorry. 22:30, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Vote is up. *facepalm* (x2) XD 19:02, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Graystripe - Silver Nomination
I expanded most of the sections. Thoughts? 02:01, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Most of his NP sections need to be expanded, also Fading Echoes, Long Shadows and Sunrise need to be expanded also. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 02:08, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I think the only NP ones are Midnight and Moonrise. All the rest of what Riverpelt said plus Firestar's Quest could be expanded. 02:12, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it. :) 02:34, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Fading Echoes could still be expanded. 02:47, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it, but it can't be expanded any more than that. 15:18, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

That looks better now. 02:31, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

His Warrior's Return sections could be expanded, seeing as he was a major character. 00:59, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it, though the middle one (forgot the name) cannot be expanded much because that manga is particularly short. 14:45, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

On almost all the sections, the information is spread out with five or six different paragraphs, and just one sentence. Try to group them together some more. 20:08, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed it. 04:21, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before the vote? 22:17, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderheart - Silver Nomination
Cinderheart's article is well-done, expanded enough, as it is how long she appears in books. I think it's fine and ready for silver status. Comments? Icestorm Trick or treat! 02:25, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Outcast and Long Shadows could be expanded. Also, I removed two quotes that didn't show any of her personality, try to find some more. 02:34, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Fading Echoes and the ones Whitestorm listed above can be expanded. 02:37, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

The Sight could be expanded a bit more (if possible), and so could Sunrise. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 12:45, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think Sunrise could be expanded any more, since she is barely seen in it. 17:51, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I think Frostheart is right, I tried to expand it some more, but it can't be. 02:29, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it. I'll look for quotes soon. 21:22, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

I cited the family tree some more. I cannot see anything wrong about this (except for the fact about the quotes). Good job. 04:25, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ferretpaw - Silver Nomination
He appears on merely two pages. I was lucky enough to find a quote for him. I was unable to find a main quote, however. Comments? 00:10, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good for such a minor character. 00:16, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it looks great! There really isn't much to say for him, anyway. 01:16, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Looks pretty good for a minor character. 02:10, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 12:14, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before vote? 23:36, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Squirrelflight - Silver Nomination
I got her family section sorted out and added some quotes. She is definitely ready. 03:31, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Most of the history could be expanded. 03:52, October 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I do not know about PO3 as I did not read it, but the NP section needs expansion. For instance, in Midnight, the journey should be presented in much more detail; many events are missing (e.g. when they get separated, when Squirrelpaw saves Feathertail from the Twoleg kit, when she senses Leafpaw's message about the burdock root due to their bond etc). In Dawn, both the return and the journey can be more detailed; and in Starlight, the exploring of the lake (for instance, when she jumps into the Twoleg garden where Jake and Susan is, or when they rest at the Sky Oak). I might be able to help out with it this weekend, but I don't know how much time will I have, so don't take this as a promise. ;) Kind regards, 12:50, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oakstep - Silver Nomination
Oakstep's article looks like it's ready to be silver. Comments on this?-- 22:51, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

He needs a couple quotes. River pelt Happy Halloween!

00:26, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, not a lot, since he is a minor character. Maybe one, two if you can. Looks good besides that. 02:21, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Could his SkyClan's Destiny section be expanded anymore? I'm not for sure, because I don't own the book. 02:27, October 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I checked, I don't think it can be expanded out anymore. He just needs the quotes. 02:46, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

I added quotes. Does he need a main quote?-- 03:03, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think he should, but I'm not sure, exactly. Both are great quotes. :) 04:03, October 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I suggest using one of the quotes already there, or find another. You can pick. 23:30, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I added a main quote. Anything else need to be fixed?-- 00:51, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me! ^^ 21:15, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

New Guidelines/Rules
Hello all! Below are some guidelines and modifications to the Project that me and Moonlfight have discussed and agreed upon. If you disagree with any of these, or think they should be modified, please leave your message below. I am looking for opinions from other people in the Project. Also, please keep in mind that I am not pointing fingers at anybody or trying to make people mad, these are just some things that I have noticed that needs to be brought to attention. So, here we go:


 * Nomination Age - Before, you could have a nomination up for a month before it was archived. This will be changed to three weeks, to get rid of clutter and idle nominations sitting there. For all nominations that are already over than three weeks, you have five more days to get them finished up.


 * Limit of Nominations - Okay, before this you could have only tow nominations up for discussion, but now you can have three. This includes nominations up for vote, and nominations up for discussion. Any nominations over the limit will be archived.


 * Responsiblity - If a user puts an article up for nomination, they will be expected to fix problems indicated by other members of the Project. I mean, I understand if they don't own the book needed, or are going to be unactive, but a user should be responsible for their own nominations. So, please refrain from editing other nominations, unless the nominator needs assitance.


 * Welcoming New Members - Okay, if a user asks to join the project, please wait until a lead adds them in before welcoming them. This is not to have leads run the whole show, it is just so the joining process and go more smoothly. However, after a lead has added them in, please feel free to welcome them by leaving a message.

So, these are the guidelines we have come up with, and please post your opinions here. :) 02:58, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

please refrain from editing other nominations, unless the noiminator needs assistance. - you serious? I agree with, or can at least accept everything you have put up here except for this one part. I know I'm not an active member of this project in so far as making and editing nominations goes, at least for now, but I still take a strong interest in the wiki and all the projects as a whole and this seems a little excessive to me. Not to mention that it opposes the very ethics of a wiki as a community and as a data base that anyone can edit. I don't think that to forbid users from helping others out on a nomination, or just editing a page because they want to help is at all the right way of doing things to be honest. Although I agree that a user should be sensible about making nominations and leave time to work on them should they need it, the whole point of projects is that users help each other out and I strongly disagree with the suggestion that users should feel restricted in the amount of help and support they are able to give another user. Sorry, but I doubt I am the only one who feels this way. 19:12, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Whitestorm, and thanks for sharing your proposals, and for trying to make the project better. I agree with points 1 and 2, these will make work and the nomination process more efficient, and more articles can be pushed towards silver - and I am indifferent about point 4. However, I'd like to make some remarks to what you propose under "Responsibility".

I understand where you are coming from - you are right that it is the responsibility of the nominator to check for an article's completeness before proposing it to silver (as listed on the PC FAQ), and he / she should also try to attend to any problems that are pointed out if possible. It is not nice when a member nominates an incomplete article, and then just leaves it there for others to do the work - this should be discouraged, and I believe that with the rule, you wish to prevent and avoid such things from happening.

However, I strongly disagree with the suggestion of discouraging members to make constructive edits to an article. This is not only exaggerated, as Sandy pointed out, but downright against the Wikia Policies. Wiki content is the result of the hard work of dozens or hundreds of people, and no article should be treated at any point in its life cycle as the homework of an individual member. If a person volunteers to help out, we should be happy and thankful that they offer their precious free time to make the wiki better without expecting anything in return, instead of forbidding them to do so.

Throughout the projects' history, members were not only allowed to but also encouraged to help each others with improving articles so they could attain silver grade. For instance, Sandy and me always helped out with each other's nominations. For instance, when some new user nominated a stub for silver and left it hanging, I took it up and spent a weekend to fix it up for the nomination. For instance, when this weekend I saw Bluestar's vote put up while the article was full of excess links and style errors, instead of searching who was "responsible", I spent an afternoon sorting it out. I believe that all these moved the project forward, and I believe that we can build a good encyclopedia only if we do it together.

Therefore, I propose the following amendment to the guideline in question:
 * Responsibility: Articles should be proposed for silver only if they are of adequate level. It is the nominator's responsibility to check an article against the guidelines for silver nomination on the PC FAQ page and try to fix things before nominating. Once an article is put up for nomination, all members are kindly invited to not only comment on it, but also to fix any problems encountered, if able.

I hope I did not make anyone mad either - it's just that I care a lot about the wiki and about our work, and I guess most of you are already used to my passionate messages. ;) I hope that my point is clear, and hope that we can reach a final proposal that benefits the project, the members, and keep things within Wikia's spirit. :)

One more thing. Besides the four guidelines suggested above, I would like to suggest a fifth one: when users indicate problems with a nomination, they should specify - if possible - what exactly needs fixing. For instance, before saying "it should be expanded", they should check (by using the book or the cliffnotes, or remembering what happened in a book) if it can actually be expanded, and if yes, try to indicate where should (like I did in the Squirrelflight section).

Kind regards, 21:23, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Whitestorm, I know we talked about these plans, but what Helix says makes sense. This Wiki is about teamwork. How can we call it team work if we can't help each other? 21:50, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Helix and Sandy: I think you misunderstood me, which is my fault for wording it so horribly. I would never get mad at another user for helping out another nomination, ever. I also did not mean that part as a rule, but more of a guideline, reminding users that they should check up on their nomination, frequently, making sure that there is nothing they need to fix. I just hate seeing editors tear their hair out, trying to fix another user's nomination, while the nominator does nothing. So, I will re-word this, just as a reminder to check up on their nominations. Also, I apologize for the message on Spiderstar's nomination, I missed that Maplefern would be gone. 22:38, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Whitestorm, but I have to agree with Moonflight and Helix. I thiink it's sensible if people can comment on other nominations. Moonflight is right. We are a team. How can we possibly be considered one if we don't help eachother, which is what a team is? In projects, people should help one another, not sticking to their own. 23:02, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree, too. I mean, I agree partly. The nominator should do most of the work, but the other people should help, too. 00:13, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh. People are still not understanding me. XD I have no problem with other editors working on other nominations, I just don't want other editors to feel like they need to work on other nominations. Do you understand now? :) 01:37, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

What I meant was, I want members of this project to focus on their own nominations, and if they have time, to try and help out on other nominations. Does that make sense? XD 01:50, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Haha. :P Yeah, I understand now. Sometimes we word things...and it just takes awhile to figure out the right words? xD 01:54, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing it up. You got me a bit worried there, but now I see what you mean. :) 12:18, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I am glad we are on the same page now. XD Anyways, since everybody seems to agree with the other points, is there other opinions from anybody else? Also, Helix I will add your fifth point to the list. :) 21:15, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm starting to understand you now, Whitestorm ! :) So you want members to collaborate and help out on nominations, and work on their own nominations, too? Midnitesky 21:29, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well sort of, I guess. :P If a user nominates a character their priority should be to their nomination first, basically. :) 21:32, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, since there has been no comments for a while, I will implement this now. 21:10, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oddfoot - Silver Nomination
His article looks good-- 23:02, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

He looks fine to me. River pelt Happy Halloween! 19:42, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, although there isn't much to his article. XD 20:37, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lionstar - Silver Nomination
I added a few quotes and fixed some things in his history. It looks ready to me-- 23:18, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

It looks pretty good. Could Code of The Clans be expanded any more? If not, good job. 23:20, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

I lengthened it as much as I could- 00:41, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. :) 20:59, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. 19:11, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Millie - Silver Nomination
Her article looks ready. I'm not sure if she has a bigger part in the mangas, I don't own them, so I dunno...but her article itself is expanded as well as it can be, and I'm looking for quotes on the Browse Inside and in other books. 20:46, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

The manga sections look good for silver, so unless they have an major events left out, they are fine. If someone that owns the series, and make sure, that would be great. Dark River through Long Shadows could be expanded, but I don't think she played a very big part part in those books, so I doubt if they can be expanded much more. Cats of the Clans needs to be expanded, and you shou;d try to find a citation for the amber eyes, however if you can't find one, delete it, as it might have been vandalisim anyways. 21:10, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

The Lost Warriors section could be expanded. Also Long Shadows and maybe Fading Echoes. 22:04, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Leaving
Hey there everyone! How's it been? I've come to tell you that I'll be leaving PC. I've only successfully nominated two silver articles, which I don't think is very many xD so it wouldn't really matter if I leave anyway. I've been too busy in real life and I have no time left for the wiki. So, you can remove me from the project. Thank you! 10:00, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

I've removed you from the roster. Goodbye, you will be missed. :3 19:17, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Goodbye Cherryfur, you will be missed. Also, even if you only nominated two articles, that was still a great contribution to this wiki, and you should feel proud that you helped. :) 20:38, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the number of nominations matters; what counts is that you have almost 1000 mainspace edits, so I see you as one of the most dedicated editors and we must definitely say thanks for your contribution. :) Good bye and good luck in all projects you're involved in. 06:45, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Scroll box?
I was just thinking that we should make the Gold articles on the main page into a scroll box, since there's now more than 11 of them. 19:15, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's that much of a problem, plus, since gold articles are the best ones we have, it would be best to show them off as much as possible. ;) 20:36, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, a couple days ago I was wondering, "Why is there not a gold article place?" I think this would be nice. (= 19:10, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article - November 10
I keep putting this up, so I finally am getting it up here. So, who do you guys think the featured article should be for November? I wanted to get this up early since we have been behind lately. Some articles that I've seen that could work are Tawnypelt. Also, Sandstorm and Squirrelflight could both be featured with just a littel bit of expansion, and since they were both major characters, it would be a good idea. I have Squirrelflight's silver nomination up now, so I will expand it some this weekend. So, would any of those be good, or do you have other suggestions? 20:43, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps Jayfeather? His article looks good enough to be featured :) 20:49, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, we could definitely add Jayfeather to the list of possible options. 20:52, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Leafpool, maybe? 20:54, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Leafpool, yes. Or maybe Stormfur? 8D 21:00, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

What about Dovepaw? River pelt Happy Halloween!21:02, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Dovepaw doesn't seem like a good idea to me, her character is just starting to develop. Stormfur's article still needs more work, Icestorm :D 21:15, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

I do not think Dovepaw is ready to be featured, honestly. I really want to get some more Skyclan characters up there, maybe Leafstar or Billystorm? I think those two are the best. If not, maybe Whitestorm? 22:46, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, Whitestorm sounds like a good featured article. Even Leafstar or Billystorm. River pelt Happy Halloween!22:52, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think Speckletail has a really great article. Even is she isn't one of the most important characters. I'd really like to see her article become gold one day.-- 23:34, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Leafpool and Dovepaw: Probably not because they are both probably going to have a big part in the next coming books.

Stormfur and Billystorm: They could both use some work such as style of history and such.

Speckletail and Whitestorm: They could both work.

So, we have Speckletail, Whitestorm, Squirrelflight, Sandstorm, and Tawnypelt as possible choices as of. Anybody else have anything to add, or think I was wrong and one of the articles that I said couldn't be featured, could be. XD I am still looking for opinions from members. 02:39, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

LEAFSTAR! XD Anyways, I think Whitestorm could work. But not Squirrelflight. She needs a lot of history work. 02:58, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Jayfeather? :\ And I agree with Frostheart about Squirrelflight. 02:59, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! I forgot about Leafstar and Jayfeather. In my opinion, Whitestorm, Leafstar, Jayfeather, or Tawnypelt could all work. What do you guys think? 03:03, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Those are the ones that I think are the best. 03:12, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think those are good articles, but Speckletail is just one that I think would be great for a feature article-- 03:25, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be either Leafstar or Jayfeather. 03:26, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

I vote for Squirrelflight (needs minor expansion as indicated previously, but that can be fixed in no time). 06:45, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

I am working on expanding Squirrelflight right now, and I vote for her as well. 17:47, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

My vote is for Speckletail-- 17:59, October 16, 2010 (UTC}

Jayfeather. 19:20, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, since people are starting to vote, I'm going to put up a formal vote. 20:01, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh. You took my idea. :P I was going to do that. XD Anyways, go ahead. :) 20:04, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

LOL sorry. :P Anyway the vote is up. Cast you votes there. 20:19, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Spiderstar - Silver Nomination
Well, Maplefern had this up before, but it was archived, so I'm re-nominating him :) 22:21, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! I don't see anything that needs fixing- 22:50, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Good job, Oblivion! =) River pelt Happy Halloween!

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Mousefang~Silver Nomination
Well, I made her elder charart, and I figured I might as well fix up her page. Comments? River pelt Happy Halloween!

22:30, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

All of the sections could be expanded a bit more. Is there any more information to be found? Can you find one more quote?-- 22:49, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Not any good quotes, she only says like three quotes total, but the third one isn't good. All of her sections are filled up as far as they can go, I've checked every book. River pelt Happy Halloween!

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Mistystar - Silver Nomination
I think her article looks really good! 19:57, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Forest of Secrets and Sunset could be smoothed out and shortened. 20:03, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Less Edits
Hiya, guys. As you have seen, I haven't been on lately, but i still would like to stay here on the project. I will not be on as much as I used to. This new wikia look is confusing me greatly and I barely was able to open this. Well...I hope you understand. Anyways, i try to come on every day but 7th grade sucks. Bye!! -- 20:52, October 21, 2010 (UTC)