Warriors Wiki talk:Charart



Kittypet Blanks - For Approval


I was messing around in the warriors wiki when I found many declined images so I put the Kittypet blanks for approval. Comments?--Yai-Girl 17:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Yai, these are Darkhallows' images. You need her permission to edit them, and also, o, Sandiwolf was working on them; they were just taken down due to black of work. -- Bramble My Realm 21:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Oops sorry.--Yai-Girl 15:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

These had best be declined then until Darkhallows gives her permission to use the old blanks and until you sort it out with Sandiwolf. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Yai-girl can use them. I have attempted to revamp them to no avail. Maybe she can.-- Darkhallows Lair 17:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Alright then, back up for approval. Sandiwolf's were declined, and if she wants them back up, she and Yai can talk it out. There is a chances that one set can be used as rogues and the other as kittypets. (will add criticism when I have time) -- Bramble My Realm 16:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Kittypets are well-groomed. The fur on the lond-hairs are sticking out everywhere. I thought you weren't supposed to put cats in drying machines? -- MU MB LE 785  23:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Mumble, long-hairs are fluffy, know matter how "well-groomed" they are. Maybe make the hair a tad bit closer to the pelt, though. I love the collars. :)--Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 00:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Now, the lineart needs to be thicker, so as it goes with the other images. Instead of the tail being up, it would be better if it was curled around the paws, I think, and the ears need to be shrunk. The paws look slightly awkward too. I found this pic: click You could probably use it for reference. -- Bramble My Realm 20:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with everything Bramble. That pic made me laugh though. I would advise you not to make them quite that fat Yai! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, hey, they are kittypets. lol but yeah, don't make them that fat Yai. -- Bramble My Realm 23:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I have trouble making the long hairs fluffy can someone help me?--Yai-Girl 14:28, 29 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Hre's another reference: <Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 16:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I did the short hairs, how do they look?--Yai-Girl 19:03, 30 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Looks great, but can you please make them a bit bigger? MaYbe the size of my Loner blanks on the bottom? Besides that I love them! The reason I want them to be bigger, is beacuse it's easier to add shading, blending, and smudging, and so we can see the colors and tabby stripes/dapple even better. Hawkfire ♫  Go Aggies! 22:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

How do you make the blanks bigger?--Yai-Girl 14:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Oh erm.. I don't know. Maybe ask somebody who is good at the computer? I had to redo my loner blanks to make them bigger :( Hawkfire ♫  Go Aggies! 15:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I have a couple of things:


 * 1) They are a little small but I'm not sure how to make them bigger (Moss might know as she did it for her prey-hunters)
 * 2) There doesn't seem to be much difference between the longhaired and shorthaired - make it clearer which have longer fur
 * 3) The heads are a little strange - they seem really... angular and the eyes are really off centre which looks odd
 * 4) The lineart on the inside of a couple of them still needs to be thickened.

Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I thickened the lineart on the long hairs.--Yai-Girl 21:16, 1 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I have a suggestion, try to make the tail on the longhears thicker so then we can tell the difference. --Spottedwing 16:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

thickened tails.--Yai-Girl 18:47, 2 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Here´s a diagram, I had no problems with it, but it´s a small like Hawkfire and Sandy said.--Yai-Girl 10:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I don't know.... the style just doesn't seem right.... -- Dawnfeather talk! 09:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean Dawn?--Yai-Girl 11:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

They look rather cartoon-ish to me, and I honestly don't think they work very well. Please don't get me wrong - there is no offense intended, to either you, Yai-Girl, or Shady. -- Dawnfeather talk! 11:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I can make them bigger, Yai, if that's alright with you. What Spottedwing meant when she said thicker tails wasn't the tail lineart, it was the size of the tail. As for the cartoonishness, I think their heads are the main problem. Their ears are at an awkward angle, and a bit big, and I think their heads just seem a bit wonky. But other than that, they seem like our other blanks. If you think about it Dawn, they're all cartoons... at least in the fact that they're drawn. -- Bramble My Realm 03:11, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Here are my horribble ears.--Yai-Girl 11:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

The angle on the tails of the short hairs are bothering me. Make them more curved. I had the same problem. Also, I can barley tell the females from the males. Make the males coalars more maleish ( If that makes since ).Minnowclaw 11:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The right ear (Our right), looks smaller than the left ear, on the long-haired cats. Maybe make the right ears a bit bigger. Also, I agree with Minnowclaw; the males are hard to distinguish from the females. I think if you made the females' eyes a bit more "feminine", they'd look better. ;) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 16:50, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I made the ears bigger and fixed the tails.--Yai-Girl 09:40, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

You're skipping over the make the females more feminine and the males more masculine. I think thickening their eye lineart, and making the female eyes look more feminine, and making a collar differenece would be better. -- Bramble My Realm 14:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I made the females eyes more feminine, made the males lissence rounder rather than a heart shape like on the females, and I made the long hairs tails thiner.--Yai-Girl 15:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl



I made another Rusty... these blanks do work. They just need to be made bigger. Also I like how the tail comes from behind the body on the longhairs more than the other two. Make the shorthairs tails curve round exactly like longhairs. -- Bramble My Realm 19:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think they look right... they're very square on the shoulders and legs and the fur is all... tufty which makes them look like ungroomed kits. I think the fur for both the long and shorthaired needs to be sleeker as if it is well-groomed and the angle of the head is strange. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not exactly looking at you; the head was made at a 3/4 angle. -- Blackclaw09 20:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you, Sandy. I expressed that awhile ago, with the fur... But, yeah. Do as the loyal deputy said. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:29, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I twicked the long-hairs I will do the short-hairs later.--Yai-Girl 23:09, 15 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Where the leg is connected to the body there is an awkward looking pixel.-- Darkhallows Lair 17:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Here?--Yai-Girl 12:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

They're so cute! Except, I think the long-hairs' tails need to be fluffier.  Jane Volturi Sparrowsong 17:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Also, make the long-haired cats' back legs, a little fluffier. Very cute, Yai-Girl! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - On the longhaired's, their paws are bigger than the shorthaired's - make them the size of the shorthaired's. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  01:20, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, the ears need to be at least slightly more rounded. -- Dawnfeather talk! 09:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Also -
 * As I said before, the ears.
 * The mark showing the top of the head extends too far on that side in my opinioin. Maybe just shorten it a few pixels.
 * I know this bit was hard, but the she-cat's love-heart tag collar thingy's shape needs to be refined a bit.
 * The one next to the question mark - I don't know maybe just tweak that little area with the hindleg a bit - it didn't look quite right to me but it will be fine if you don't edit it.
 * The thing that bugs me most about these images - how at that point there with the arrows and diagrams coming from it the line doesn't change from vertical-pixel-coloumn-thingy to the other gradually, but *wup!* it's here, and then *wup!* it's there. Just add in a few other pixels to make it less, sudden. I'm sorry if I seem harsh - I just want to help you get this image approved so tweak week can come.! -- Dawnfeather talk! 10:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Birchfall for approval
My first image. Comments? Criticism? Feel Free Bracken- 17:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

This is good Bracken! The only problem I see is the smudged lineart. Fix that, then we can see if there are any other issues.-- Echomist Look out for flying hedgehogs! 18:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I see a few problems. His pelt is a strange orange colour where it should be brown (like his father). The lineart is very blurry so Echo's right, that does need fixing. Also, the large triangular tabby markings you've used are deemed as cartooony and are not acceptable for the high standards of the project. There are a few alternative marking methods that are esay to do. You can use wavy markings such as on Tornear or Stumpytail - I use these personally for warriors and there are very easy to do. You can also try the 'jagged y' markings such as on Brambleclaw or Cinderheart and there are others besides such as Sunstar. I would suggest either of the first two options however as it is your first image - make sure they're only slightly darker than your base colour. When you've sorted the lineart and the colour and the markings then we'll talk shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Here's Birchfall again, I hope he's better this time. Bracken- 20:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

He looks a lot better but next time can you post Birchfall at the same place as your first one. Stonestar 20:22, 1 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

He's much better. You just need to make the pink of the ear more triangular and less blurry, so that it doesn't interfere with the lineart. You could also look at some of the approved warrior images to get an idea of the small issues like the ear pink, shading, and how to make the pupil of the eye.-- Echomist Look out for flying hedgehogs! 01:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the need is very... stand-out-ish. make it end at the tip of the whiskers and erase all that darker color that was paint over his neck. Some of his eye has went over the outer lineart. The shading needs to be blended a lot more, and needs to be darker. I can barely see it in some places. The tabby markings are almost a sickly green color. Make it only a shade or two darker than the pelt.--Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 19:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

We're getting there. You have all the components it just looks a bit messy. You need to carefully blend the shading into the pelt so it is a smoother colour transition. Take a bit away from the top of the muzzle as it runs straight from the head and looks odd. Then straighten some of the markings so they look a bit neater and add some more in the gaps you've missed. Make the ear pink triangular and blend it in slightly. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:26, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Blend the ear pink, like sandy said, but I think that the shape is fine. Make the pink a little bit darker, though... It's sort of bright. You need to blend the shading and markings tremendously. Try using the blur tool at http://www.pixlr.com/. It'll help you out. ;) Other than that, great image. :) -- MU MB LE 785  21:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, This should be okay, I changed the stripes, and blurred "everything" I hope this is good! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 23:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thin the shading a little bit (It goes a little too far into the body), lighten it a little bit, and blend it some more. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  18:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 23:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Very good bracken-i love him!!!i just suggest to blend in a littl the shading.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;DeepPink; background:Aquamarine; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;"> ♫ Shimmer ღ 23:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded Is he a bit too pink? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 02:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

i've got 2 I'm not sure which one is better... Can you tell me maybe? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 22:01, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I personally like the first one. However, use the same eye technique you used on the second one on the first one. Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 01:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I got two more!!! new stripes. is blurred better? or non blurred stripes? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 23:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I like the color and the shading, but I think the shading needs to be blurred more... I think the stripes should be a tad bit thicker, and when blurring them be careful not to smudge the lineart because it looks like it got a bit blurred. Also, maybe vary the shape of the stripes a bit (make some longer, or some thicker, or make some 'Y' shaped) because not all the stripes on a tabby look the same. Otherwise, it looks great. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 23:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

okay,3 --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 00:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Right. I'm not sure which version you want to work on but personally I like the third best. Add tabby stripes on the rest of the body (and legs/tail/head etc). Make sure you have shading in all the required places: top of head, back ear, back, chest, tail, legs, curve of hindleg and blend it all a little without blending the lineart. You just need to neaten this image up a bit as everything's a little messy. Make the ear pink triangular and in the center of the ear and then blend a little. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 22:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Make the stripes on the upper back longer, and add more shading.-- Darkhallows Lair 17:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The stripes look like you made a line then used the smudge tool. Make them firmer and add them on the head. Add stripes on his chest. Blur the shading and add more on the top of the head. Also thin the shading on the chest.Minnowclaw 20:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Re-uploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 17:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes look great (how did you do them? I'd be interested in giving them a go) Lighten the shading a little and blend it in more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Whitestar- For Approval
My first white cat! *Fidgets Nervously* I'm still a little in the dark on shading, but, I'll get there, some day! What do you think of him? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 20:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe darken the area between his front legs. --Blackclaw09 20:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The shading's a bit light, and it needs to be blended more. --Blackclaw09 21:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? Or, does it need to be lighter/darker? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 16:10, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is a bit light. You could darken it more. --Blackclaw09 17:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

The transition between the ear pink and the shading is distinct; blur them both. Also add a bit of shading to the top of his head. -- Bramble My Realm 20:31, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 17:16, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

It's better to me. You need to add more shading on the (his right) of his chest.Minnowclaw 12:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

One of his back legs is a lighter color than the rest of the body.--Yai-Girl 16:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Blur your highlights as well as your shading; also add a bit of shading to (his right) cheek. -- Bramble My Realm 23:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

On his right leg, there isn't shading on our left side. Make more shading and join them up.Minnowclaw 20:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Reuploaded. I'm not sure what you mean by the side of his chest....do you mean his back? I'm also not sure what you mean by highlights (I don't remember putting in any highlights; pitiful, right?). Oh, and, Minnowclaw? Are you talking about the right foreleg, or the right back leg? Sorry if it's a weird question. =) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

foreleg. Sorry for not being clear.Minnowclaw 16:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Remember to add shading on his other cheek. -- Bramble My Realm 22:43, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Bramble. I accidently loaded the wrong file, so, technically, the previous file didn't have any change at all, on it. XD Hope that makes sense. Anyway, if I loaded it correctly, this time, I added shading on the left side of his cheek. Oh, and, Minnowclaw? I'm really sorry, but, do you mean our right, or his right? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 14:39, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I don't think that's really needed Minnowclaw, but that's just my opinion. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:08, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I actually think the image is ready to be approved. Comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 21:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Archeye (W) for approval

 * So, it's Archeye. Not much to say about this, only thing is that the shading doesn't seem to show much with the black stripes. I can make it more dramatic if necessary. Comments? <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 22:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Blend more, shade a tad bit darker, and make the tabby stripes thinner. They look blotchy right now. Other than that, he looks good. ;) (Don't forget to sign with four ~'s!!!) -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 22:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll change those things soon (And I just forgot to sign, I don't know why... XD) <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 22:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I increased shading, thinned out the stripes, and blurred thoroughly. Does it look better now?

The tabby stripe on his neck is very light ad needs to be the same color as the other stripes.Minnowclaw 11:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

That's not a tabby stripe. That's the shadow from his jaw. --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 21:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Move the jaw shadow to other other side, under his chin. Also, thin and blur the tabby markings on his front leg. Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 22:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded, and changed what you said, Mousewhisker. Is it better now? --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 18:16, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - It's actually Mosswhisker. ;) And yes, I think he looks great now. Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 21:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry! I knew it was Mosswhisker, I just was spacing out, and there's Mousewhisker in the books... yeah X3 Sorry! --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 23:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - No problem! I figured that that was just a mistake, seeing as Mousewisker is a charater in the books. :) Oh, I really like the jaw shadow on him now, seeing as it no longer looks like a tabby stripe. (Forgot to comment on that earlier, XP) Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 00:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Blend his jaw shadow and his ear pink. Then I think he's good to go. -- Bramble My Realm 17:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink seems a bit bright and un-natural too.

This hasn't been worked on in a week - if it isn't worked on soon i'll have to decline it. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 10:17, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded, changing what Bramble said. (The reason I couldn't work on it was because I was away from my computer for several days- I apologize for forgetting to tell you.) --<font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ 18:38, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Sandstorm - for approval
Not much to say, what do you think?Minnowclaw 14:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

(M) - Make the tabby markings thicker, and blur them thoroughly. Also, the background needs to be transparent (I can do it for you, if you want.) Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 14:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. Could you actually make it transparent for me?Minnowclaw 12:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

(M) - Image is now transparent. Darken the ear pink, and there is a white pixel near the base of the tail. Darken the markings a shade too. Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 19:00, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I darkened and blurred the shading, but I didn't make the tabby stripes darker because it says she has barley visible tabby stripes.Minnowclaw 20:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

(M) - You still need to darken the ear pink though. Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 22:57, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

good?Minnowclaw 23:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

She doesn't look at all like her warrior version, try changing the stripes to match.-- Darkhallows Lair 05:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it turned out to well, but I did my best to copy her warrior version.Minnowclaw 12:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Blend the shading, theres a distinctive line from the shading to the ginger. Blur the tabby stripes some more into the pelt. They kinda stick out. Hawkfire ♫  Go Aggies! 14:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading more,and blur the tabby stripes,maybe also burn them a bit.As hawky said,they do kinda stick out.--Firepelt 16:31, 14 August 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

No need to agree with me on everything ;) Hawkfire ♫  Go Aggies! 18:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Add some markings on her belly. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

What about this? And for Sandy, I don't think I should because it look crowded when I do that and there wasn't any markings in her warrior version.Minnowclaw 15:42, 15 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

This looks great. I see a few problems with the shading, though. Here's a diagram:



Red is where there needs to be shading, green is where I think it's too light. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Jane Volturi ( talk! ) 17:31, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Darkened and added more shading.Minnowclaw 12:50, 16 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Add some shading on top of her head and she's good to go. -- Bramble My Realm 21:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Done.Minnowclaw 20:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The upload log is screwed up... nothing's showing up. The hind leg shading and the head shading are gone. Upload the shaded version as a new file; Sandstorm.queen should work. -- Bramble My Realm 19:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

doneMinnowclaw 02:42, 19 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Awesome. Comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 22:41, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

should the shading on the stomach be a bit darker? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> Bracken- Hey there! Whassup!!! 23:42, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Add some haunch shading too. (It used to be there, I don't know what happened to it. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  00:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Tweak Week Guidelines
Okay, so I know we're all excited for Tweak Week. :) We're almost there, so I thought I'd post a few guidelines with how we're going to run things during it:


 * Sections on the talk page will have the cat's name you are tweaking, but not (-For Approval) after it, because the image has already been approved. Tweak the image how you want it, and then add a section with your cat's name telling what you did and asking if there is anything else anyone feels needs to be tweaked.


 * After the image has been tweaked, if there are no comments for more during a 24 hour period, the section is deleted and the dialogue (Not the headline) is put with its respective section in the approved archives, with a line inbetween the previous dialogue and the present.


 * People are free to do whichever of their pictures that they want, but the limit is 6 images that you can tweak. If you feel strongly that you must do more, talk to me or Sandy about it and why you feel you should be able to.


 * If you want to tweak an image of an artist that isn't around anymore, or was approved before the standard of art was raised (i.e: Weaselfur, Tawnypelt), ask my permission first.


 * If an artist goes over one of their pictures that you feel should be tweaked, you can recommend that image to be tweaked to the respective artist. However, it is always the artist's choice.


 * In the current projects section, put your images that you are doing for Tweak Week after your name. This is to let people know which of your images you are tweaking. The normal current projects will freeze, and it will be as if no time is passing with them (the two week limit does not stand).

If there is anything you have further question on, please ask. We want this week to run as smoothly as possible, and we want to have fun! :) -- Bramble My Realm 23:23, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

What if I don't really want my images being tweaked? I don't like the idea of people doing anything to my art, helpful or not. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:46, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Where did I say that? If the artist is still here, no one does anything to their art except that person if he/she wants to. You don't have to if you don't feel it necessary. -- Bramble My Realm 23:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Could I please 'Tweak' Tawnypelt? I have some ideas. =D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 01:12, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I would like to Tweak Mosskit please. --Stonestar 01:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Of course, Dawn. :) I'll be happy to see how it turns out. Stonestar, Mosskit is Sandy's. Please check to see whether the original artist is around before asking to tweak something. In my opinion, Mosskit doesn't even need it. -- Bramble My Realm 02:17, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I just did Tawny then, and I was amazed by how little needed to be done to make her look almost a new cat! Can't wait to show you! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 02:31, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

May I tweak Brownpaw, please? <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:IceBlue;"> Jane Volturi Sparrowsong 03:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Awesome, Dawn, I can't wait to see her! :D Sparrow, Brownpaw is Sandy's. Let me rephrase something. The only ones that need to be tweaked/redone because they're original artists are not here anymore are Brambleclaw, Tawnypelt (which Dawn has done), and Weaselfur. That is all. Unless you ask to do one of those, the images you are tweaking are your own, in which you don't need to ask permission. -- Bramble My Realm 03:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Brownpaw is mine not Sandy's ^^.

Sparrow, I'm sorry but I've already started on him... Sorry!.-- Darkhallows Lair 05:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Well i just wanted to change Mosskit because in BP she is a she-cat with a white and gray pelt. --Stonestar 13:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

I wanna tweak my Antpelt a little bit, and can I tweak Weaslefur? I'm kinda nervous about it, but I would like to add some shading. : ) -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I am tweaking Feathertail. Hawkfire ♫  Go Aggies! 19:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

My mistake, Shady, I saw Sandy had uploaded the new version over the old one, and mistook that she did it. My bad. :) On Mosskit, the Erins have changed his/her description constantly. In FOS, he's a boy. In SOTC, he's a dark gray tom. In BP, she's a gray and white she-cat. In CoTC, she's a she-cat. So, I think we'll just make an alternate version of Mosskit. :) And just put the most current one in the charcat, and both of them in the character pixels section. Mumble, sorry, but Warrior has already claimed Weaselfur. Actually, the only one left is Brambleclaw, and I'd rather like to do him. So, sorry, but there's none left! :( Please, no more asking to tweak any other images. You tweak your own. Will archive this tomorrow if there are no further questions. -- Bramble My Realm 19:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)