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Nutmeg - Silver Nomination
She looks ready to me. 10:43, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Her history looks pretty good, but it might be better to expand it some more. 12:08, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

If possable, add more quotes. i haven't read SkyClan, so i don't know if u can or not. -- 20:17, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the Skyclan's Destiny section could be expanded a bit more. I'm not quite sure if she needs another quote, since she is a minor character. 17:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think she needs any more quotes, mainly because she is so minor, but if you find a good one, add it. 20:43, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

That quote is literally the only memorable thing she says xD As for expanding, I'll have to do that next week because my SkyClan's Destiny is at my mom's, but if anyone else wants to work on it, feel free. 20:14, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Spiderstar - Silver Nomination
I think Spiderstar's article looks nice. What do you think? 14:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Just add one or two quotes, but other than that it looks nice. Good job, Maplefern! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 16:31, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't own SkyClan's Destiny so I wouldn't know, but if possible the history should be expanded, since he probably won't appear again. And yes, he needs some quotes. 16:35, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it as much as I could, though I'm not sure if it is enough. 17:47, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks better to me. 02:22, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks fine, but what about quotes? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

He appears in StarClan, as well. He needs that added to his history. 23:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Maplefern? 19:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Now that I have time to, yes. 22:20, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thrushpelt (TC) - Silver Nomination
I cleaned up Bluestar's Prophecy, I think this is ready. Also, to note, this is my first nomination so I have no idea if I'm doing it right. :P 02:25, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Bluestar's Prophecy and Code of the Clans could both be expanded. Also, he could use another quote that shows his personality. 02:30, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it as much as I can, though I cannot do a quote. 02:46, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

If you can't find I quote, I could try to find one, if you want. 03:08, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Moonflight. :D 03:12, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I'll be able to get to it tomorrow. :) 03:16, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else I can do? 15:58, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

You still need more quotes. 21:27, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I know, I'm trying to find a good one. Bare with me. 03:48, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I can't possibly find any good parts, I haven't read Bluestar's Prophecy in awhile and I don't remember any significant good parts, though I know there are some, so I don't know where to flip exactly. Can I get help? 15:08, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I lived up to my promise and found two quotes. :D 15:36, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :3 15:38, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. :) Commets before vote? 15:50, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you can't expand PB anymore? It's still really small. 12:05, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

PB? 15:34, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, I meant BP. Bluestar's Prophecy. Try to expand it more. 19:04, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Expanded 00:59, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. Repeating. CBV? 21:48, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Vote is up. 20:18, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstar - Silver Nomination
I checked the rules again, and I am allowed to have one more nomination. I expanded her Skyclan's Destiny section overtime. 00:02, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Her Firestar's Quest section could be expanded. -- 00:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Cats of the Clans could be expanded a tad. 00:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe.... you could add a bit of her in the manga part of SkyClan's Destiny. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 00:39, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Expanded Firestar's Quest and added the manga part, though I can't expand Cats of the Clans. 01:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Needs some more quotes that show personality, and could more be added to her leadership ceremony? I'm not sure, but there isn't very much on it right now. 02:54, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I added more quotes. 04:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

The second quote with Echostsong is good, but could more ne added to it? Like, add Leafstar's respons and some more dialogue. Also, did you look into the leader ceremony? 20:41, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I believe that the chapter ends there, and Leafstar didn't respond. And I can't find the leader ceremony right now, but I'm trying. 20:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe put in a quote from Quest? And her tree should be deleted. It's only her and her unnamed mother. -- 17:27, September 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Did it. :) 20:33, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * The tree I mean. 22:09, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * So anything I can do? :) 15:58, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Did you add a Quest quote? 17:05, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really find a good one that shows her true self. 17:07, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

You need to try and add more dialogue to her warrior ceremony, and add a leader ceremony for her. 17:41, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I added more to her warrior ceremony and I will add her leader ceremony soon. 17:47, September 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * By Leadership Ceremony, do you mean when Firestar announces that she'll be leader, or the actual StarClan ceremony? 00:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not quite sure which one it is, but I know it's the one that is "I, mentor of Skyclan and leader of Thunderclan ___ do you, Leafstar ___" thing one. xD If that is the starclan one..o_o 02:55, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

You need to add the StarClan ceremony where she receives all nine of her lives. 21:29, September 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * But Firestar nor Bluestar have one. Should they? The givers of their nine lives are listed in the Leader Information. 00:20, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I should think so. 01:20, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

It'll be a long quote, but I'll find them. :) 11:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

For some reason, I thought there was a template for that, but there isn't. I am working on getting it, so until then this nomination will have to be stalled a bit. :) 21:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Bluestar ~ Gold Nomination
I have worked on Bluestar's page for a while now, I've expanded almost every one of her books. I really want her to become gold, so please tell me all the things I must fix. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:02, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but she has none of her ceremonies. 20:07, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I realised she doesn't I'll work on them ASAP! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:09, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

You should find another quote that shows her personality, that could be used with the new format. Shattered Peace, Long Shadows, Into the Wild, and Rising Storm could all be expanded. Also, try to summarize Cotc together so it isn't just a bunch of information spread out. :) 20:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Long Shadows can't be expanded anymore, but I've done everything you've all said. So anymore fixing for me? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:57, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, all the history is better, but she needs a leader ceremony. However, there is not a template avaliable for that currently, but I am working on it. Once the template is made, she should be ready. 21:09, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay Whitestorm! Just tell me when it's ready! =) River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:02, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, since her leader ceremony is now on her page (I thank whoever did that for me! =D) Is there anything else I need to work on? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 21:25, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Crookedstar~ For Gold
I expanded a lot of his history, and i think he looks good. 21:28, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Most of the history could be expanded and it need some quotes. 22:06, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, we need a few more quotes, and a better main quote. The citation for brown does need to be found, you can't remove it without searching for a while. Also, Into the Wild, Rising Storm, Starlight, Twilight, and Cats of the Clans all need to be expanded, although most history could use some expansion. 22:18, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

For into the wild, he makes only one appearance, so i really don't think it can be expanded much more, but i'll get to work on the other stuff. 01:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded everything but the feild guides, which i'll do tomorow. I know that we're suposed to look after the cats we nominate, but i cannot find a good main quote for him, can smoeone give me a hand? 04:01, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I can try to look for a main quote, though it will probably be late tonight before I can put it up. 21:14, September 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * There's also the template for the Leader Ceremony that's in progress, as you now, so this will have to be stalled anyway. :) 19:08, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Er...forget that. XP 19:10, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion
Could we change the Charcat's color for each clan (ThunderClan=Green, WindClan=Light purple, ect), I've seen users do it with there personal ones so it can be done? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  23:41, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I was really thinking about that (but not those colors) but I thought some more and wouldnt that get kind of confusing and take alot of coding to go back and change all of them? And what color would the Kittypets, Rouges, Loners ect. be? Great thought! 01:03, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I see where your idea is coming from but, I don't get the point. I mean you are suggesting color-coding to show which Clan they are from, correct? Well, on each Charcat, it already says which Clan they are from so it wouldn't be adding an extra info. Another thing, users who aren't a part of PC wouldn't know what was going on or what the colors represented. So, I guess you could I say I disagree. 02:09, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

No because the actal colors for the clans are

ThunderClan= Green

WindClan=Light Purple

RiverClan=Blue

ShadowClan=Red

Rainear  Let the rain guide you  03:01, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

This is just like the main quote idea above, we decided not to colour code them. What if we found a way to have a small pixel of the Clan symbol in the corner? Like:. We can create something else for Loners, Rogues, etc.-- 03:24, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Looks cool :D Rainear   Let the rain guide you  03:31, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine I really wish this could be done but referring to Whitestorm's statment, about people outside of PC. But great job with the symbols. And for loner there could be a big L or something like that. (= 11:07, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm going to speak as a web designer here: Changing the color of the charcat table based on group would be... Ugly. The table would stand out in it's mismatch from the main layout. You pick and stick to a color scheme for the main article boxes for purpose of attractiveness, and for purposes of making the other "tag" templates (stub, style, delete) stand out dramatically because they go against the "normal" look. 12:24, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about that too, Kitsu. Also, we just made the quote templates to match the color of the Charcat and I have pointed out my reasons for not changing the color. 20:24, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that color-coding isn't a good idea, like Kitsufox and Whitestorm said, but Nightshine's idea of the symbols would be nice. We could put the Clan symbol of the character in the corner of their charcat. I disagree with changing the color, but I think that the symbol thing is a good idea. The only problem is that we'd have to add it to a lot of charcats, which would take a long time. 17:20, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I really don't get the point. All the charcats already say what Clan that cat is in. So, the symbols wouldn't really add anything. I don't see why we should add them. 03:45, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. What would we gain from adding the symbols to the Charcats? We have their affiliations listed there already. I understand what you're trying to say, but I just don't see the point. I have to go with Kitsu and Whitestorm. 21:51, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. 23:13, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I know that the affiliate of the character is already on their template, but I just thought adding the small symbol would make it look nice.-- 23:13, October 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * I find it a bad idea simply because so many characters are so flexible in affiliation. Rank changes already create enough charart fuss. We don't need fiddly details, like clan affiliation, messing things about. 23:22, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I think that it would take a lot to implement this, with the 600 + character articles we have. It might also make the charcat look messy. 21:27, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Daisytail - Silver Nomination
All she needed were a few of her categories and a main quote. Comments? 00:09, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

She looks good to me, but if possible, get a longer quote. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 00:45, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's the length of the quote that matters, but the quality of the quote is what really counts. I can still try to find a better quote, but it may be hard. She has less than 5 pages about her. 01:05, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

No, I read through her part in Code of the Clans, and there is not another quote that shows her personality at all. So, the history looks fine and I support. 20:46, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I just fixed a spelling error, I support now! (= 22:48, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before the vote? 03:56, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Vote is up. 12:26, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Moonflower - Silver Nomination
Moonflower is ready in my opinon. Does anyone think so? -- 15:16, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

In her trivia section, it says she's be stated with amber eyes. See if you can find a citation for it. Also, perhaps you could add in a few more quotes to show her personality. 15:44, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

The history could be expanded. 15:57, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

She also needs the source for being seen with amber eyes (in the Trivia section). River pelt Deputy of StormClan 01:26, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * I already said that. Please don't comment just to repeat constructments. 11:25, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Moonflight, I didn't know you said that already, I didn't mean to repeat it. =/ River pelt Deputy of StormClan 15:46, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine. :) 00:11, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Added more history. I tried to, but again, not much to work with. Um, and i think the quotes are good. I added those three before i put this discussion up. -- 22:24, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Feature Article template
When an article is featured and consequently you put  or , the resulting box is way too large in my opinion. Should we reduce its size, or find another way to mark an article as featured? Myself I'd prefer to place only a small symbol in the top right corner (in the manner of WOT wiki here - see the black WOT logo in the top right corner). Kind regards, 09:56, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * I like that idea. It is in my knowledge that Nightshine has made small Clan symbols. Perhaps she could make a StarClan one as well. 11:23, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry Helix and Moonflight but I disagree, we've used that template for a long time, and I don't see anything wrong with it. 12:00, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not that there's something actually wrong with it - it's just a bit too obtrusive in my opinion (at least the logo should be reduced to about 30-35px so the box won't be so high). Even if we've used it for a long time, only a dozen pages have it so far; imagine when it will be on hundreds of pages... :) 17:39, October 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, show me and example of what it will look like. :) 19:06, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

So are we reducing the size of the box or using the small symbol? I'd prefer the latter, but what do want to do? 19:01, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

As I said, I would rather not change it, but if I get an example of what it will look like, I will consider it. 23:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, we already discussed on the IRC... in any case I don't mind if it stays like now. However, if you want a smaller one:

Kind regards, 11:36, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Archiving
Okay, this has been a concern of mine for some time, and I thought I would bring it up now. On character's talk pages they are often archive to the point where is nothing left on the talk page except Style Concerns. To me, this looks unprofessional and makes the wiki look like it never does anything. So, I have set up some guidelines about archiving: I am planning to implement this now, so if you have any questions please ask. 23:08, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Posts older than one year should be archived.
 * If there is less than five posts on a characters, do not archive anything even if it is older than one year.
 * Only twenty posts should be in each archive, if there is more, create a new archive.
 * If there is more than twenty posts on a talk page, archive the oldest messages even if they are newer than one year.

Whitestorm - Silver Nomination
I've added a couple quotes to his page, and in the past, I've sumed up all of his history to its point, and I think he deserves to be silver. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 22:06, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

He needs a SkyClan's Destiny section. 23:40, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Finish SkyClan's Destiny Section! Anything else? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 00:18, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Eclipse could be expanded a tiny bit, but besides that he looks very good. 02:20, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Expanded Eclipse! And thanks Whitestorm! =D River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:21, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

He looks ready to me. 21:56, October 6, 2010 (UTC)