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Thistleclaw (Ki) ~ Redone
I totally ruined it. >< OA is Nightshine, Redone artist is Ivystripe and tweakers are Ashshadow and me. Tweaked tom match description. Many credit and thanks to Burntclaw for sending in the apprentice file, and that made my life much easier. :) 08:53, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the white 08:56, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

K so I smudged my white patches with a 10 px bristle brush and i did not smudge or blur the texture- i used a paint brush and added dark and light tones to show the light hitting the fur and the shadows to give his fur a "bristling" effect. Nice image, anyway =) 09:09, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Also define the texture on the white please. 09:12, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

why does he have white paws? hes only speicifed white and grey on his face and shoulders. 11:03, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

nvm, cite got found 12:06, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:53, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

He looks like hes still mottled, is that intentional? 22:57, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

That's texture. There is tabby stripes I promise, it's just harder to see because it's a tiny image. 23:01, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the white more please, with a hard edged one px brush 01:52, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload If I have to turn the internet upside down to get a better smudge tool >< 07:21, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Ok I'm going to be that person but I still seriously think you should smudge the white more ;; 13:13, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

The texture on his face isn't texture; it's little triangles that just throw the colour off...also, could you add a bit of depth to the shading? It's looking a bit flat. 13:15 Sat Oct 3

Reupload I'm being careful with the shading as the texture and stripes disappear when it gets too dark, and I'm near the brink. Everyone's fluffing up their Thistleclaw a lot! Do I need to fluff Thistlekit? 20:18, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

His other images appear to have a small bit of black near the eyes- do you mind adding that? The warrior and dark forest images show what I'm insinuating. 21:27, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload Don't tell me to smudge it anymore, cause I did before and it somehow disappeared O.o. 21:49, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

White looks gray on the paws 23:57, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 00:03, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

I still think it looks gray to me, tbh. Try erasing some shading on them 01:01, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload White against dark is a pain >< 05:42, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

i don't know why but the texture makes him look mottled... 07:29, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the two front paws. 20:36, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload I've lowered the opacity of the texture to help see the stripes and smudged them. I completely forgot about the paws so I'll do that in the next upload. 21:01, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make him look more spiky, like on the apprentice and warrior? 01:05, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload spike! spiiiiiiiiike! That's a fun word. 07:30, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

fluff up his left side of the cheek, it looks oddly unbalanced. 11:40, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload Uh tomorrow is when it's a week since I posted. If this doesn't pass by tomorrow, (which seems unlikely), will this be declined? 05:12, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

A redone image is 2 weeks. Could you fluff out the right side of the face more? (On the face) 05:42, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Nettlebreeze (E) ~ Redone
OA is me. Redone to match. I couldn't sum up to Shinx's awesome skills... :( 21:51 Sat Oct 3

I'll add the rheumy eyes and he ragged fur in my next upload. Oops. 21:53 Sat Oct 3

Don't forget the cloudy eyes! :) The colour doesn't seem to match the other images. His a bit orange-r than the others. (Is that even a word? Orange-r?) 22:00, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Did you add the layer of texture? There's a very light one on the apprentice, I'm not sure if you added it or not. This looks gorgeous. :) The color is fine, I think. I sent Hawky the file, the colors will probably be colorpicked fro that. I use highlights on my images, which makes them look a bit brighter. 22:10, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading 01:17, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

The shading's fine. 01:23, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Shinx. I used texture. I made sure you could barely see it, because you can barely see it on the apprentice. 3:03 Sun Oct 4

No, it's really not @Apple. Please smooth it out some more on the legs 03:04, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

In my opinion it is. Literally it looks blurred as it is but if someone else disagrees then I guess. 03:05, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

The shading is fine, tbh. 03:06, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Also I did color pick off of the apprentice .xcf 3:14 Sun Oct 4

Blur the shading on the earpink? This is beautiful. 22:34, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Can you make it a bit lighter to match the apprentice and kit? It looks a bit too dark atm, and could you lighten the tail where they have lighter parts? It blends to much with the original pelt color 16:01, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

The reason the pelt looks darker is due to the shading, and that also applies to the tail. I colorpicked off of the .xcf of the apprentice. As for the earpink, I will get right on that. 23:33 Thu Oct 8

Birdsong (E) ~ Tweaked
OA's were Canyonsong, Minstarr, and Iveh, tweaked to remove ginger. Thanks again for the file, Iveh! 12:32, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

If possible, could you make her look less green and define the shading? 23:18, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Hopefully this looks better. Redid the shading while still keeping it along the same shading style as Iveh's. Switched the colors around a little bit 00:20, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

She actually seems like a triangular tabby to me... idk 05:21, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

This is not a triangular tabby. A triangular tabby has repeating distinct triangles. This has no triangles. We are not bringing this back again. .-. 05:26 Wed Oct 7
 * For an examples, here is Oatwhisker (WC) before I redid him ages ago. See the repeating, sort of rippling triangles? That is triangular tabby. That is not realistic. Birdsong is fine. 05:29 Wed Oct 7

She looks green, regardless. Also, people can have their own opinion. The image you provided is not triangular, it's just unrealistic. 05:37, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

What was wrong with the opacity of the previous version's stripes? This was nominated to remove the ginger, and Ivy's shading did not need to be redone. It could have been tweaked very easily.

She doesnt look green to me. Tbh i think the color previously looked too green, pelt color and stripes Storm  &#9835;  12:21, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

And besides, she was asked to define the shading, so thats what dhe did Storm  &#9835;  12:26, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Dulled the opacity of the stripes. This is a zigzag tabby I belive?? Nowhere near a triangle tabby. The reason I redid the shading was because imo it was a bit overblurred, so I just redid it while keeping it along the same shading style. 12:32, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

She wasn't nominated for a tweak for the shading though. You shouldn't have touched it. You should change it back...it was totally fine as it was .-. 12:50 Wed Oct 7

Unfortunately I would change it back if I could. Sadly, even with a file, I cannot. And I can't revert it back to the other one and copy that, because I wouldn't have the layers that I need. Fox told me to define the shading. Therefore I did. .-. 12:54, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

reups Fixed a shading leak 12:56, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

You should've kept the original layers then. It's not difficult to hide them in case you were asked to change it back. And if you were asked to define it you define it, you do not redo it. You were never given the permission to do that. 12:58 Wed Oct 7

This is one of my first times I tweaked a charart, can you cut me some slack? It did not occur to me I would probably have had to keep the original layer... Besides my first approved tweak was a redo, so I wouldn't have known anyway. 13:04, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can we all frigging chill? If it is really /that/ horrible that the shading is redone, just redownlad the file and redo the tweak. Since it's one of her first times tweaking, I think we could be a bit more lenient on her? 13:08, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

The shading is fine Storm  &#9835;  13:10, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

no its not? you dont just get to redo all the shading on an image that wasnt yours to begin with without a consensus its necessary? its not that hard to tweak it, or even try to tweak it. 17:35, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

I would just like to point out that even I've gotten told off for redoing things without permission. It's not fine, as it was redone without permission. Berry and David are correct. It was not supposed to be redone, it was supposed to be tweaked. It doesn't matter if it looks fine; when we tweak, we're really supposed to keep as much of the original image as possible, and since Winter has the file for this, it's even easier to do so.

Ffs ill redo it when i get home jeebus 19:48, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

You don't need to get upset over it .... people were just warning you. Could you possibly fix the earpink color? It's too red to be on a brown cat. 20:55, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

reups I know I did nothing with the shading, but listen. I'm not trying to be difficult, but the shading is literally the same. When I redownloaded the old file and compared the two shading layers, it's literally the same, but mine shows the white as more of a white color, instead of the pale gray that we see in the old image. I have defined it more, and I have defined the white as well. Like I said before, that shading was overblurred. I defined it, while keeping it the same. Again I'm not trying to be difficult, but honestly (and I'm not trying to say it but...) I think it's fine. Not just because it's my tweaked image, but because it shows the white as white instead of pale gray 23:41, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

I think you're missing the point, dear. All we wanted is to make sure you know that you do in fact need to ask before redoing the shading, that's all. I know I would have no problems with you redoing the shading if you come and ask me. Burnt knows that as well- I've let people redo or tweak certain aspects of an image that it's not been nominated for if they come and ask. Chances are that I'll say yes. Also, I don't think it was overblurred- just a bit of light tweaking would have solved the problem. Not everything needs to be overdefined- in fact, it can make an image look downright nasty if someone doesn't know what they're doing, or if the shading color clashes...but I take it you know all that. tldr; just ask next time if you're not sure if you can or can't do something. =)

Okay...but is it fine? 00:39, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

I'm fine with Snowdapple fixing my shading errors, better to do it now then have her nominated again, and this looks nice you did a great job  05:17, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Aspenfall (W) - Tweaked
Ugh. He looks super gray and I will fix that. OA is scarlet. If she wants this I will indeed surrender it. Tweaked to define shading and I also changed the color of the earpink so it would look better with the gray + white patches. 21:40, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

I guess go ahead and add some highlights to fix the gray problem 23:17, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Ugh. 23:26, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Try doubling the highlight layer on an overlay layer mode. It still looks grey. 01:51, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

There's also a white pixel on the ear. I know it's nitpicky, and not necessary, but you can fix it if you want. 03:31 Wed Oct 7

Re-uploaded: is this better? 03:33, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Still looks gray on the haunch 05:20, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 02:10, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Mistystar (W) ~ Tweaked
Second try.

Blur the shading some more and define it on the most unvisible paw. 18:10, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Gorsetail (P3) (W) ~ Redone
attempted a more....upward facing source. we'll see how it goes, cuz this was made at 7am. (i am aware of the waste. dont comment on it.) 19:37, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

I know its artists chouce but the green shading honestly throws off the image imho. Could you possibly tint it a different color? Possibly a lighter blue gray or black 20:36, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

There's waste. Also, blur the shading. Can you like add some shading to the farthest ear? 22:10, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

The white is a bit too green please use a different color of shading like how Snowdapple said.

Poppy, please don't repeat comments... 23:44, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Personally I think the tint is fine, it's the artist's choice really. --Dewsplash (talk) 23:49, October 7, 2015 (UTC) Dewsplash 23:49, October, 7, 2015

reuploaded its purple, now everyone can stop whining about green thanks 23:52, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Looks much better~ Can you define the earpink a tad? 00:50, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded 12:40, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Dawnflower (A) - Tweaked
OA's were Icethroat, Dapplecloud, Wildheart, Mistypebble, and Notquiterocketwildbokan. Tweaked to lighten 03:04, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

lighten her much more. 05:53, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Um, personally I think this is white... I don't think it needs to be lightened.

Its very pale gray. It does not need to be lightened anymore 13:55, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Erm, this is nowhere near white, Silver. o.o I had this discussion with Icy last night, actually. If this is showing up as white for you, I think your monitor is having some coloring issues.