Forum:Senior Warrior Lead Votes

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Due to recent senior warrior nominations, several users and I, including Icestorm, Feathermoon, Frostheart, Mossy, and Helix, discussed why lead votes are much more signifigant in senior warrior nominations? It really is unjustifiable. A Wiki is about team work. Senior warriors work with everyone, not just leads. Yet, normal warriors have no say. Why should they even have the option to comment if their vote doesn't matter? It won't change the opinions of the leads. It really is an unjustifiable policy. A Wiki is a community effort. No two users who may happen to have different positions are no different in importance. Everyone one's opinion matters. Why should one user not have the same voice as another? Why should background matter?

Regardless of your opinion, please, please post it here. If we get enough supports, we must put it to an official vote. Even if you completely oppose of this idea, please, please, comment. Your opinion matters, from leader to kit, we all matter. 20:50, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I totally agree with you, as you know, considering I was there. Iceheart, you know, you would get your privileges back, too. I never did find it fair that just two votes from leads non-supporting can change everything despite the rest of the project supporting. 20:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you as well. I personally think everyone's vote should be of equal value and we don't make a seperate category for lead votes. Night shine  21:19, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

i agree completly! I remember in this disscussion Mossy said: This is a community where everyone is equal.' She was right, right? Fea ther  21:32, April 9, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I agree. Scarlet wind Step into the Light 22:33, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I doubt there would be anyone who disagrees. I think it's a good idea, 22:57, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. 23:03, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

@Iceheart: We can't say nobody will disagree, as all people have different opinions. ;) Fea  ther  03:40, April 10, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I know this is for senor warriors/warriors, but may I add this anyway? I agree, a wiki, is about support, and if just a few people have a voice, thats like saying

'Hey, you do great work, but your not a senior warrior, so, your voice means nothing, well have fun anyway! BYE^^!' I really don't think its qutie right, I know you don't do that but still, noone really asks the warriors or apprentice's oppions, but, I do think that senior warriors have a voice, but when its for a nomiation, like I said, apprenitces, don't really have a say in that, but, The senior warriors should get a say in the nomations.... Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 04:56, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Um...Maplepool? This isn't for sr.warriors and warriors. This is for everbody. The point is everybody's vote counts regarless of what rank they are in. Here we are talking about how Sr.warriors, Warriors, and appretices should matter. That's why i'm glad i was in this disscussion. Because there was a lead in the disscusion, a warrior, and an apprentice. We all agreed soemthing had to be done. Fea ther  06:19, April 10, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I agree as well. Everyone should have an equal say. It is a group project, after all. Darkhallows... Mew? 06:33, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I also agree. The senior warriors are an important part of projects, so everyone should be able to voice their opinion whether or not they think that person deserves that status. 13:57, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This Wiki is a community. Not where ranks are separated into groups, and ranked higher just because they have a few more benefits and privileges and a special name. They should be ranked equal, and all I see that should matter is that there is more approving votes than opposing in order to become senior warrior. So, in general, I agree with you, Moonflight. I see no point just for senior warriors to be ranked higher. However, what about deputy and leader? Would they be necessarily ranked under senior warrior? -- 14:41, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. We are all a community, and we all have different opinions. Just because our 'rank' is lower than others doesn't mean that our votes mean nothing. L o n e W o l f 20:09, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

AH! Thank you, Moonflight, for bringing this up. I always thought this way, but didn't want to say anything for fear of being shot down. I agree, wholeheartedly. Votes should be cast with the whole PROJECT in mind, not just four or five members choosing. Yes, I believe the priviledges senior warriors have now should stay as they are, but in the way of voting, everybody in the project should be consulted. By the way, this is getting pretty long... somebody want to move this to the forums? --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 23:51, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yet again another brilliant idea.Goldenstripe 04:10, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with this too. I think that the reason why the lead votes counted more was because they were thought to have more experience in the project (although that isn't necessarily true, in my opinion. Some warriors have as much experience as leads.), so their vote would count more in the nomination. I do think it would be a good idea to have really new users' votes not count as much as apprentices who've been a member for a while, warriors, and leads. Because (although this isn't always true) new users might not know much about the project once they join, and have as much experience as other users. Just an idea, though. And I don't mean to offend any user, as that wasn't my intention at all. 02:29, April 16, 2011 (UTC)