Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Time limit on Tweak Nominations
I've noticed how some tweak/redo nominations will stay up for a week (or more) without getting their three yay or nay votes. That's really not fair to the nominator having to wait that long for their nomination to be approved - especially when it's missing like one vote. I think that maybe after a certain time period, say 3 days, whichever vote at the time has a majority should be the automatic decision. So it would go on the list if the majority were yay votes. And if they're tied I guess it could just default either way, so long as all tied nominations would default the same way. It'll just keep those nominations from sitting there and the nominator from having to wait so long to know whether they can work on it or not. Breeze whisker  04:54, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

I think this might work. It would stop nominations from sitting there. 06:37, 17, 05, 2012

I agree with this...but the only question is for those that tie. I'd say look at the comments, if any, and that could determine if, but, for now, I think that they should just be approved and be done with it, or, if they really want the image to be redone, they can re-nominate it.

Have we come to a conclusion on this? 09:23, 06, 06, 2012

I believe that is fair enough. For if they tie, I say we just wait 24 more hours, then archive it/decline it. 20:06, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I think we should just decline the nomination when it's defalt, and they could just renominate it necessary. 06:01, 12, 06, 2012

I agree with the declining it automatically, but how long should the wait be before the votes are tallied? Breeze whisker  15:20, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking two or three days, but it could be more or less. Breeze whisker  15:21, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

I think 3 days/72hrs is good enough as a time. 05:51, 15, 06, 2012

Just wondering about some things
On the cover of Warrior's Return, Graystripe looks blue-gray, or a lighter gray than he usually is, and since Millie got a cover alt (even though I've heard you don't do those...?) I think if that qualifies for an alt, he should too. Also, somewhere in the book, Diesel said he is meant to be a loner, so would that qualify for a loner charart or would he still be considered a kittypet? I'll find the cite later, I know it's there. Also, I don't know much about tweaking, but I think Featherwhisker should be tweaked to have a plumy tail like this since he's cited with one. 02:48, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

For Graystripe, no. We don't have a cite for his shade, and that's probably just the lighting anyways. It doesn't go against his description at all. Diesel, I'm not sure, if you can cite him being a loner he'd probably get one. And Featherwhisker, no, it's not that prominent of a feature like it is on Feathertail or Squirrelflight. So no tweak. 05:53, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, and one more thing: Should Hollyleaf get a rogue charart? I know this sounds farfetched, but think about it: She killed a cat and ran off, leaving her Clan. Sure, she wasn't driven out, but it still gave me something to think about. 12:59, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

She left of her own free will, and lived on her own, not boring the Clans. She doesn't get a rogue image. We've discussed this before.

Okay. The cite for Diesel is page 70 of Warrior's Return. 14:01, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm. Well, he did say that, but what kind of loner are we looking at? He could just be saying that he actually is a loner, someone who does not associate with others, or as in Clan terms. Sorry if that didn't make any sense xD  20:29, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

I guess he might be just someone who associates with the clans. Speaking of loners, should Crookedstar get one? He was away from his Clan for more than a moon, if I remember correctly, and didn't associate with them at all for that time. And when he came back, he was ceartinly big enough to be an apprentice, but was held back because he ran away. I think this is a good reason to become a loner. Can I ask a question? I'm really, really sorry if I'm being a bother with all this, but why don't kits get loner, rogue, and kittypet images? I mean, if they were kittypets when they were kits, we could at least put a collar on them to show that. I think... something needs to signify that they were once a loner or a rogue on the kit if they don't get loner or rogue chararts. Like, Tinycloud. 13:48, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

For crookedstar, this was already discussed when the book came out. He doesn't get one. The whole time he was gone, he considered himself a clan cat, so he never really took on the rank of loner. And for the kits, they don't get loner, rogue, or kittypet images cause the blanks are made for full grown cats. They are kits, so they should get kits images, not full grown cat images. And kittypet kits do get collars unless they were specifically shown or described without them. Also, the ranks are listed in the charcat well enough, you don't need anything else to signify their rank. 14:05, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Since no one has commented on this in ages, he says "I belong here. Meant to be a loner." (just look at his main quote) It could just mean that he doesn't communicate with other cats, but Millie askes if he wants to come with him. It could just be a mistake, so I'd probably say yes. :/ 09:07, 06, 06, 2012

Sorry, but I still have got to say no since we are unsure what it meant. 20:04, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Brightheart?
I was wondering, wouldn't Brightheart get an alt. for mistakenly said for being Briarlight? That seems like a pretty dramatic change of description, so I was just thinking. x)  17:22, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

That wouldn't qualify. Alts would be for mistakes in color or shape, not name. That is just trivia. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 17:27, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I think Regi's right...but...what was the context in which she was said to be Briarlight?

Alright. It said that Briarlight was mistaken to be Brightheart, but I thought it could go either way. 17:44, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

It could...but I //think// it depends on how it was used. Something as simple as a name switch in general terms... I'd say no...but if Brightheart was specifically described as Briarlight, with the broken spine and all (and vise versa, since we all know that's virtually impossible), then I'd say yes.

Well she's said to have dragged herself across the clearing. But normally no, a mistaken name wouldn't get an alt. It's just a name, not description. For this case I'm not sure, cause she was described with a broken spine.... 22:57, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

We normally wouldn't do this... but since she was described like that... I'd probably say yes, but I'm unsure. 02:28, 27, 05, 2012

Since she was described with the broken spine, I believe she should get one. 03:29, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think she needs one. That's a huge change from before, and it's obviously just a typo. And even then, "dragged" is pretty vague. It could mean she was just moving slowly, or even she got down on her belly and scooted her way across the clearing for no apparent reason, not just that her spine was broken. Breeze whisker  04:14, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Breeze. If she was said to look exactly like Briarlight then she should get one, but that's a typo. Where's your cite for this? 11:28, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Is there a cite for this? 09:10, 06, 06, 2012

Yes, on page 117 of the The Forgotten Warrior. 20:02, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, that only says she dragged herself, it never said she had a broken spine. 00:27, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

We Have an Issue
So, as some people have seen in the approved tweak nomination archive, the page has exceeded the template limit. What this means is: the page has too many s, s, s and signature templates, and thus the templates are showing up as redlinks. So we need another way to archive tweak nominations without using one page. We could just use more than one page, but should it be a forum or just a regular page? Since the archive isn't really being discussed on, it probably shouldn't be a forum, but that's just my opinion. 23:00, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, but it takes my computer about a year to load that page simply because there's so much on it. 23:02, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Didn't I say to use a subpage when we started this whole ordeal? I think we should just move the entire thing to a subpage for PCA and be done with it.

I'm no coding expert (never have been, never will be), but maybe instead of using the yay and nay templates, just go:


 * Yes/No. Reason why or why note if needed/wanted. ~.

I'd rather not use a second/multiple pages because of the space it could build up to. Or we could just keep a record of who/which chararts were redone, how many times, for what reasons with dates. I dunno, Scarlet's having a slow day 23:09, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Scarlet on the yes/no rather than the vote yay and nay templates. That way, the number of templates on the page will go down. 01:06, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

But there's still the issue of long loading times. The PCA images page (a page with every single approved image) was deleted because of this problem. 01:07, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Whatever you decide to do, I think it would be nice get rid of those, not sure what they're call, drop down menus(?), also. They tend to make my computer stop responding while it tries to open one, even the current, and therefore smallest, one. I'm not sure what else would work, though. ^^; Breeze  whisker  01:12, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Then maybe we should use subpages, and possibly have a limit to how many drop-menus are on a page. 01:17, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Subpages was my opinion in the first place, so I still agree with that. Maybe 3-5 drop down archives per page, since we're up to the sixth archive now. (I don't have much problems these days o3o) I think the only thing with that Breezy is that we'd have to make an archive for each drop down. I'd personaly like to keep the voteyay and nay voting (probably because I've gotten used to it) but if it saves a lot heap of trouble, then I'm fine with just doing what Scarlet mentioned above. :) 01:49, 11, 06, 2012

I'm all for subpages, the current archive takes forever to load, and the yes/no thing would get confusing, let's just make some subpages and be done with it. 23:55, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Tweak Nominations: I am going to sound like a total idiot...
Alright, as you all know, right now I am the sole overseer of the Tweak Nominations page, and I'm supposed to nominate someone to help me. This is going to sound so horrible, I know, but I haven't been active enough to know who would be the right person for the job to help me. There are so many new people, and it's hard for me to keep track, and I don't even know who would want the position. I know this is unorthodox, but members that are eligible and would like this position, let me know and I'll make my decision. This way, it'll be a lot easier to pick the right person who is interested. Thanks, and again, please don't brick me for not just picking someone XD  15:15, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

We respect your desicion Ibly, not everyone can do their jobs. :) I could probably do this, but if the featured charart vote passes, since I'm one of the users in charge of that, I'll strike my interest for fairness. :) 06:29, 15, 06, 2012

I'm interested owo I can do this but it's your choice. 06:38 Fri Jun 15

Don't want to sound too greedy or something, but I would like to try this out. '^^  20:06, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

I know I'm the new SW, but if I am allowed, I too would like to try this out. 20:24, June 15, 2012 (UTC)