Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Hawkfrost- For Approval
Well...Here is the first character art that I've made. What say you? Smokeberry 21:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It's really good for a first image! I just think there are 3 things you could improve on: 1.) Make the eye have a pupil. It looks kinda like it doesn't. 2.) Make the tabby making thinner, blend them a little more, and make them jagged Ys. Use Squirrelflight as an example. 3.) Make the shading a tad bit darker. Other than that, It looks awesome!

Thanks! I'll fix that right away. Smokeberry 21:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

The image has been changed...Is it better now? Smokeberry 21:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Smokeberry, you didn't read the notice:One image at a time, so you'll have to wait for Jayfeather and Cinderfur, who by the way don't have their blanks yet. On this one, the tabby markings are dots and lines. Try using the jagged lines like Lionblaze, Squirrelflight, Dustpelt, and Brownpaw, or use the wavy ones like Heathertail -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 00:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Mallinois is right Smokeberry. Also, the ear is way too pink - that would need to be sorted as well. Sandy Talk! 08:33, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * A couple of things: There is no shading that I can see. It needs some. Look on the Approved images to see how to do that; The tabby markings need to look...realistic. Looks at some Approved tabbies for examples; Nothing's blended. Use smudge tool for that. --Warrior♥ 01:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

To add to that, Hawkfrost also has a white underbelly. -- Bramble My Realm 17:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I have fixed it. In my opinion the color is too dark, but then he is evil. Anything else? Smokeberry 23:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I like it dark, because it fit's his personality. I think he still needs more shading though. -- Dawnfeather 11:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Just add more shading on the back and the chest, and perhaps on the curve of the leg. I really like this. -- Bramble My Realm 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I really like the tabby markings now and think it looks good. I have something to add though - on my computer it is showing up on a white background not transparent and there is a strange black line at the top; is this just me or does it need to be made transparent? Sandy Talk! 16:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Add more shadong, and take away the triangle-ness of the tabby markings, plus the ear is a little dark and there's a black line at the top. Plus, get rid of the markings int he middle of the body. -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 20:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Lemme just remove the line, and this will be done. G B 57 02:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

There. Approved. G B 57 02:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

What the...? Can someone fix this line before it's posted? Thanks. G B 57 02:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

GB, aer you listening? Quite a fwe of us think that there should be some more shading before it is approved. -- Dawnfeather 06:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Wait, GB. Several people still have comments for improvement, and after those have been made the image can be approved. Don't approve the image just because it looks finished to you. Smokeberry, this can definitely be approved soon, just add more shading on the places mentioned above and tweak the markings a little like Mallinois suggested. I can turn it transparent for you if need by after changes have been made. -- Bramble My Realm 13:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Very nice! But I think the ear needs to be blended a bit more.--Warrior♥ 14:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, I think the ear is a little too dark... you can hardly see it over the dark pelt colour. Sandy Talk! 19:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

He looks awesome. ^-^ -- MU MB LE 785  22:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't know there was still criticism. G B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem, buddy. :) It was easily fixed. -- Bramble My Realm 23:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

GB, don't feel bad. As you said, everyone makes mistakes, and this one doesn't matter, as it was easily and effortlessy fixed. I do agree that this is SO CLOSE to being ready for approval though. :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 07:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? Smokeberry 00:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful. The ear pink still needs to be lighter, as I think it looks too red at the moment, and I think Sandy mentioned that, too. Other than that, this is extremely close to being ready for approval. -- Bramble My Realm 17:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Also there is some blurry grey stuff outside the outline on his chest. That needs to be fixed Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:10, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

His ear and the blurry spot has been finished. Anything else? Smokeberry 22:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that line's back. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 22:54, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Its PERFECT, I LOVE the tabby stripes! Keep it that way, the tabby stripes like on squirrelflight and other tabbies, are pretty ugly(sorry D:) Dictation 23:12, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Attacks multiple artwork. User may not continue editing Project Character Art until July 15th. Slash any content posted by this user until then. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:38, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Augh! Curse that line! I'll have to remove it. Anything else? Smokeberry 23:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This is looking really good now; once you've removed the line I think this will be ready for approval Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 17:59, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks amazing! If it were me, I would add some more tabby stripes, but it looks great even without them. --Goldencloud 22:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

The outlines blurred in several places. It is quite pretty otherwise.-- Darkhallows Lair 08:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The outline is a little blurred, and the marking on the tail could be toned down quite a bit... Otherwise, you have some great looking artwork. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 12:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I love him, I truely do, but isn't hawkfrost a longhaired cat? In his pic in cats of the clans he's a longhaired tom... -- MU MB LE 785  19:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Morningflower-For Approval



 * My second, tortie, and my first elder. The elder blanks show up black for me, can someone fix that? I fixed up this one, though. Tell me what you think of it. -- Mlns tlk • C 14:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but i think you might need a little more ginger fur. She looks too dark, and I think it's because of the black. But, otherwise, it's good. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  19:55, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, the separation between the white and the black on the neck looks unnatural. Play around with the shape a bit more, or extend the white up into the face and make those common white-face markings. Other than that, and what Mumble just said, this is really good. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploded and changed the neck black to white and ginger connection. Better? --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 21:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It is better. I think the ear pink, although it is the right colour is slightly too big for her ear, especially as the fur is black. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, though it may take a while to show up. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 19:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that you should extend the white on the neck up onto the face, the way the is common amoung cats. also, the ginger patch on the front shoulder is an awkard shape. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 01:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The white is extended to her face, but it may take a while to show up... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 14:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Instead of making an upward arch with the white into the face area, level with the eye, drop in down a bit and make it arch the other way. Also, extend the white that is on the face in a tendril up the nose. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Blossomkit (SC)- For Approval
I hope this isn't too much. I have tons of files sitting in my computer and I want to do some new ones already xD. I don't really like doing kits, as I can never get the shading right. But I think she needed her own picture... poor kit.-- Darkhallows Lair 01:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

This is great! But shes a tortoiseshell....<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 02:09, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

This is Blossomkit of ShadowClan, who's featured in Cats of the Clans. She's a white she-kit. You're probably thinking of Graystripe's daughter, Sandwich. On the image, it's very pretty, but I think all the shading is too focused on the bottom, and maybe you could add some more on the head/shoulder area and lessen the rest. -- Bramble My Realm 02:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh sorry! my bad. This is very pretty, sorry for the mixup!<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 03:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It's alright. I actually remember her most for the 'her pelt was as red as deathberries' line. I intensified the head shading, but I'm not sure if it's enough...?-- Darkhallows Lair 04:24, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not often I find myself saying this, but I think there is a little too much shading on the legs. Try just putting shading down one side of her legs as if the light source is coming from a particular direction. Also, the background is green...on my computer at least. (I seriously don't know what is wrong with my cp... I'm fairly sure you would not have painted it green lol - just make sure it's transparent ;]) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:33, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It needs head shading, and the eyes look...weird to me.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="MediumPurple">Warrior♥ 16:03, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Played with the shading--4.185.210.69 22:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I take it that was Darkhallows... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 00:25, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah.. I'm on my other computer. Sorry.-- Darkhallows Lair 00:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the problem with the eyes is that they're too bright. Darken them a little bit, and maybe decrease the saturation a bit, too. It looks good otherwise! --Goldencloud 22:05, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Darkened them; are they better? Darkhallows Lair 07:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, they are much better now. --Goldencloud 15:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I know she's a white cat, but it seems to me that there isn't enough shading. I figure that the light is coming from one side, which is why there is no shading there, but i think the you need to extend the shading on the other side a little bit more, and then maybe darken it at the very edge. I can sympathise with you though. White cats are hard to make. Overall, good work! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 07:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and 'bout the death berries, it was her... *gulps* blood. Misty <font color="Pink" style="background:Gray">stream 16:33, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

This looks great. It just needs more shading on the head, and use shading to create a chin on the image like the approved kits. -<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 13:56, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Added a lot more shading. Gah, I should forget about doing kits.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

lol. It may seem hard at first but I actually find kits the easiest after a bit of practice. This is starting to look really nice. I think you need to add a tiny bit of shading on the top of her head though. (perhaps on teh right to fit in with the other shading) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 20:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Good job! I aagree with Sandy, just put in a little on the right of the head, and this should be ready. White cats and kits are both very hard, and you've got one that is both and it looks beautiful! :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Not all white cats are hard- Whitetail wasn't. I added more head shading.-- Darkhallows Lair 08:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

This is (in my opinion) ready for approval. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:35, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

This is almost ready - I just think her left ear needs to be shaded too because it looks odd that the light seems to be shining just on her ear and shadowy on the rest of that side. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:49, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Ear shading added.-- Darkhallows Lair 21:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

It's either not showing up or it needs more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

TRy to bring the shading on the ear to the tip and blend out, and I think it'll look better because I see no shading on the ear.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" size="3" color="DarkBlue">Warrior♥ 16:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops! Is it there now?-- Darkhallows Lair 21:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks great now!=)--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 21:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I love it, it lookss perfect. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments before approval in 24 hours? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Mousefur elder -for approval
I'm not that good at art, but then I tried Pixlr and I think I did a good job. Please give me any little detail I can improve! Minnowclaw 23:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Needs a lot more shading and blending.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="MediumPurple">Warrior♥ 00:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

upoload 2: Better? upload3:Now what do you think, don't hold backk! Minnowclaw 14:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

sorry, but not really. You needs heaps more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

You need to put shading on the chest, muzzle, tail, back, legs and head. It needs to be blended well into the pelt without blurring the lineart. Good luck Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 09:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get on it as soon as I can.216.217.47.66 14:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Pretty good! I was hoping to make a charrie art for Mousefur, but you beat me to it. :/ But isn't she a tabby? Smokeberry 23:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

No, she is just a "dusky-brown she-cat" and the picture approved isn't a tabby. Please! It can't be perfect, what can I improve on?Minnowclaw 23:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Hmmm, add shading on the curve of her hind leg, her forehead, and her foreleg. Also blur the shading you have, especially on the belly area. The ear pink needs to be more pink, as it looks violet to me at the moment. And, as Sandy said, take care not to blend the lineart. Other than those things, this is a great first image. :) -- Bramble My Realm 02:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Darkhallows - Senior Warrior?
Please go here to support Darkhallows becoming a senior warrior. Darkhallows, just to make it official, do you accept the nomination? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Of course I accept. ^^ -- Darkhallows Lair 01:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Icepaw - For Approval
What do you think? Minnowclaw 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Add more extended shading on the spots you have already shaded, as well as adding shading on the forelegs. Blend thoroughly, and add ear pink. -- Bramble My Realm 02:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Lots better than the one I had a go at last night. White cats can't be done the way i'm doing mine, at least in the apprentice blanks. I like it, but i think that you should add some more shading. Brilliant! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 05:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

She needs a lot more shading and the ear pink needs to be addes. Please make sure all this is fully blended :) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Add shading on legs and blend everything like Sandy said. Try adding some color to it a bit. White cats are hard to do; I tried to make Icepaw awhile ago but it turned out..."not good". xD--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 16:56, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

A Guide to Shading?
This idea may suck. But it seems like a lot of new people on PCA are asking how to shade. I was thinking that maybe we could make some sort of page with tutorials on different styles and where to put shading (I'm sure everyone has issues with this sometimes). Again, I don't know how well this would work. -- Darkhallows Lair 04:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. There are lots of different ways to shade cats, and different ways to make tabby markings, markings in general, ears, and even eyes. New ways are being thought of all the time too. For example - my apprentices. We haven't even really figured out how to shade the elders yet, as only one has been approved so far (to my knowledge). I just don't think it would work. Everyone learns in time. I've only been here two months and a few people are applauding my efforts. I'm not exactly against the idea, it's just i'm not sure how it would work. Has anyone got any thoughts or suggestions? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 05:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Two elders :P. Yeah, I don't know if it COULD work. But then, like I said, there could be guides on different styles? Or each player could have their own section if they wanted. -- Darkhallows Lair 05:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I was actually thinking of Shadepelt! Never occured to me that I had made an approved colouring of an elder. Ah well. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree, alot of newbies would appreciate the help from shading, i know I would XD><font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 14:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think there should be a "Charart Mentors" program, and the senior warriors+Bramble could mentor an unexperienced user in Charart. That way, we don't have to set guidelines like Project Adopt a User. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 19:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I like that idea. Im an unexperienced charart user that can use help.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I like that idea too. I wouldn't mind being a mentor, in say, a month, even though i'm not aa experienced as you senior warriors. I know quite a few shading techniques. Maybe we should let the leader (Bramble, you rock!) choose who the mentors could be, because even with our large amount of senior warriors, we wouldn't have enough to mentor every new comer, even the people who are struggling now. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I would love a mentor... - Sparrowwing  talk  11:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the mentor idea too. I think that might work.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:39, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

New opinion... How about creating something like Project Adopt a User? (Project Teach A User To Make Character Art or Project Adopt a User for Character Art?) Even better, work on reopening Project Adopt A User. -[[User:SparrowWing| S p a rr o w 23:18, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

No fair!!! I wanna mentor someone even though I'm not a senior warrior!!! -- MU MB LE 785  19:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Silverstream-For approval



 * I lways though her story was tragic, so I mde her. She's my first textured cat. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 12:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I can see what you're trying to do here, but to achieve it, you need a bit darker shaind on the front, and the back has to bit a bit lighter. Also, try and bring the highlight down onto the shoulder and hind leg a bit more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, the ear colour is unnatural, the eye could be a bit lighter, and the tabby stripes are few and blended into the pelt too much. Sorry that i'm being so harsh! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought Silverstream was... silver? <font color="White" style="background:Blue">India, <font color="Green" style="background:Orange">Here I Come! 19:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, and haven't Silver tabbies got darkish stripes? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripe on her flank near the base of her tail is at a strange angle... Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded with new markings and more highlight, yet the changes don't show... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 13:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a smudgy blur outside the lineart on the tail Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 16:04, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixed. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 17:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Silver tabbies usually have a silver body with dark stripes. But I do really love the texture. Nice job Mal.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is a strange shape and needs to be more trianglular and blended into the pelt. Also... she is a tabby but she only has about five tabby stripes; I think she needs some more stripes on her head, legs etc and I think that they do need to be darker to make it realistic. Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks good, but it looks like there's to much ear pink; the pink also seems a bit too bright. The tail is also blurred.=)--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Birchfall- For Approval


Okay, I'm really nervous about putting up art. You guys are a little intimidating. Here's my Birchfall. The changes are taking some time to come up, so the version you see might not be the most recent.

Dawnfeather, being my unofficial mentor, talked to me about it already. Hope this looks good to you! - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

More shading, and it might help to make it a little more brown.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 16:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree. He looks like for of an olive green color than brown. Also it doesn't look like he has any eye color. I like this, though! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:12, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey Sparrow, welcome to project charart! There's no need to be intimidated; the point of this is to make art, give advise to other users on how to improve their art and to have fun whilst adding to the character pages :) I personally agree with the comments Sandwich and Goldencloud have made and would like to add that blending the ear pink and shading into the pelt more will give it a more realistic look. It might help to remove the tabby markings whilst you get the shading and colour right, then add them on again - that's how I always attempt tabbies. Good luck :) [ps. please sign with 4 ~s] Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Colored eye, fixed shading. - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

Cherrytail - for approval


I just noticed that every charart I've done so far is a "tail". lol I didn't even realize that. Anyways! I wanted to try doing a tortoiseshell, I tried to make it look realistic. I haven't tried texture...ing any of these yet, but I've drawn cats before and tried to use that style as best I could. I was surprised no one had done Cherrytail yet, she's the best SkyClan cat in my opinion. I used the same shading layer I used for Hazeltail, so hopefully there won't be as many problems with that. This one has highlights, which I'm unsure about. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT1 I took off the texture, but there's still a little bit on there that just indicates the direction the fur is going. But I've seen this sort of texture before, so hopefully it won't be a problem! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow. I adore this. Really great job! -- Darkhallows Lair 18:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! *huggles* <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

This really is beautiful. I take it back; you've just topped the best tortie so far (Sorry Mal!) I can see no problems... Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 19:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks! There are some really good torties, are you sure about that? <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried doing this on Sunpaw, but my pc messed it up. How do you do it? Great! --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 22:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I used a photoshop brush that was just a bunch of tiny dots and brushed it with ginger and black at a low opacity. I would make a tutorial, but I stink at making those. :) Thanks a bunch! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

woa...

--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * lol THANK YOU! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow. This really is beautiful, Goldencloud and I do like it... but it looks different from all the rest of our approved images. With the added texture, it's a different style then all the others and it's set apart. I'm really trying to say this in a polite way... I don't know, this is just my opinion, that the style is too different. If others' opinions override mine then we can accept it. -- Bramble My Realm 12:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Bramble! *glomp* I guess I can sort of understand that...although there are some pretty contrasting styles among the character arts as it is. I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm just pointing that out. :) Do you think if I took the texture off and reuploaded it would be more acceptable? <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, i have to agree with Bramble. Please take no offense as this is seriously the best image i have ever seen. It just isn't in the same style, and many of the approved images couldn't be done in this style even if we tried. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess that would sort of be like a compliment. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * As much as I hate to say it I have to admit Bramble is probably right. This is such a beautiful image though and it seems harsh to say that it's too good... :( Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:00, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose being declined because it's "too good" (haha as if) is better than being declined because it's horrible. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm really really sorry, Goldencloud. ;_;. I just don't think it will work like this. -- Bramble My Realm 14:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In that case, tell me how I could make it work. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

OMG, SHE HAS FUR!!! I was wanting to do this with my images, too, but I have no idea how... As for the debate: I think we should accept her because all of the cats are in different "styles", and it's how you can tell that different people do different images. This is the best image we have ever seen, and you guys are gonna stoop so low as to not accept the maine coon just because of all of the sphinxes weve made? Sometimes you guys don't make very much sense to me... -- MU MB LE 785  17:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * lol OMG I KNOW, RIGHT? I agree with you on the whole "styles" thing. Looking at all of the approved images, I can see a definite contrast in styles, I can even tell that two different cats had the same artist. I'm not trying to push this to be approved or anything, I'm just debating the "style" issue. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think this is wonderful, but it looks unnatural, sort of. Other images are in different styles, and I've seen real tortoiseshells. I've seen ones that look like Sunpaw, and I actually know one that looks like Tawnypelt, just brown and black. I don't think we are stooping low, Mumble, but we need to keep style consistent. This may not be the best image we have ever seen, Just to point that out. She looks wonderful, but do tortoisheshells really look like this? She looks a little like a tiger to me... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 18:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I actually used a tortoiseshell reference when I drew this. Just like me, I can't find it right now to show you. But I have seen a cat that looks like this! I think I may know why it looks unnatural. The highlight layer is set to color dodge, which brightens the gingerish/orange color. I can try setting it to something more subtle and see what it looks like. She may look like a tiger because of the black pattern, and I threw a few tabby stripes in there. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 21:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Try taking off the fur texture, Goldie. We'll see what it looks like then. I really hope this can be approved, as it's beautiful. -- Bramble My Realm 22:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Done! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That makes it a lot better. Goldencloud, you're really good at this! Any more comments until approval? 24 hours time. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 00:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Actually, this is a record. My other pixels had loads of problems! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 01:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Foxpaw - For Approval
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A few have already been posted since i came,, so I hope you like this one. :) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather  00:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading on his leg looks pink...-- Darkhallows Lair 02:20, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I made it more of the other color. What else can i do? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

On the hind leg curve two of the stripes look blurry and sort of scratchy. Make them more distinct, just not too much. -- Bramble My Realm 14:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I still think his hind leg looks a tad pink, but it's not too bad. Everything else looks perfect! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Boulder - For Approval
Here is our first attempt at a character image. Critisism welcome! We think the shading turned out pretty good. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 01:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)



It's pretty good for a first image. However it needs more shading, and then the shading needs to be blended in.-- Darkhallows Lair 02:16, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, we fixed the shading (we think), though we're still having trouble blurring it. Any suggestions? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 03:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Use the tool that looks like a teardrop. If you do not have this tool, go to www.pixlr.com --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

As well as blending the shading you need to incresae the amount on the belly/tail Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 13:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks a bunch for the website! It helped so much! So, here's our blurred image.

[Edited to put this under the right section and repeat image deleted. Also please sign with 4 ~s] Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, now my comment! You only need to upload the image to this page once and if you've uploaded a new version it will show automatically. I can't see any changes yet though; have you actually uploaded the new version? Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

'''Sorry about the image thing - I didn't notice that. I changed it on here so the new one will show up. Sorry again. I swear I'm blind! I was trying to do a lot at once :)' Sandy'' <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The image looks...fuzzy, and the shading isn't blended enough.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" size="3" color="DarkBlue">Warrior♥ 16:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I reduced the blurriness a bit. I’ll work on it some more later tonight/tomorrow. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

You sharpened it... not blurred. Either that, or it's from being a jpeg. Try using .PNG-- Darkhallows Lair 21:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I blurred the shadows as much as I could...does it seem better now? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 00:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, anything else I can fix? Something is still bothering me about this picture. Should I put in highlights? (And how do I do that on pixlr, anyways?) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Owlpaw - For Approval


Ther is only one excuse for no noticing my current theme - living undr a rock. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Either that, or being blind. :) I like him, but on his page it says his eyes are yellow, and these are green. I can try and check that if you want, I'm not sure if that's verifiable. -- Bramble My Realm 13:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I confess that i made him from the description in the Sunrise allgiances, which says nothing about eye colour, so i went with green randomly. I have changed it now. :P --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Crowfrost - For Approval


I decided to colour a warrior as I haven't done one in a while :) Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 13:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Oooh, Sandy, love your new sig. :) I think the shading on the black part of the pelt is too dark and distinct. Maybe lighten and blend it a little bit? -- Bramble My Realm 13:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Bramble; I was getting bored of the old one :) I've lightened the shading as much as possible and blended it more. I also remembered to make the background transparent! [I always forget that] Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! Every time we try to edit the main page, the computer freezes. /sob/ Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 14:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Sandy - the new image had to be saved a a jpeg, while the old one was a gif. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 14:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry... I'm blind. I sorted it for you :) Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, now that's sorted, any more comments on Crowfrost? lol Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The shading still doesn't look right to me.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" size="3" color="DarkBlue">Warrior♥ 16:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I said I wouldn't post again today... but where exactly and in what way Warrior? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I blended the shading right into the pelt in an attempt to make it less... wrong Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Extend the white pelt over the eye. It looks odd to have it stop right at the eye, or at least to me. -- Bramble My Realm 22:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I messed around with the patches on the head and I think this looks better Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Swallowtail - For Approval


I wanted to test out Dawnfeather's beautiful blanks, so I tried my hand at Swallowtail, a RiverClan elder. I'm not sure if the highlights look good, so please critique! -- Bramble My Realm 22:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually Bramble, you're your usual amazing self. I love how you did the tabby markings. I was hoping that those would be do-able with the blanks! Again, this is really good. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Beautiful, but Swallowtail has green eyes. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 16:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I hope nobody minds me commenting. The only thing is that the colors are very dark - or, atleast, on my computer. I honestly though she was black until I increased the brightness on my computer screen. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:20, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

It might be your computer, becuase i can tell that shes brown. The pictures very good. <font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Loudbelly- for approval


I hope this is better than my Whitewing...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 04:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

He looks fine, but the outline is blurred in a few places, and he could use some highlights. To prevent this (in GIMP, at least) paste TWO images down on two layers, hit 'ctrl' + 'L' to bring up the layers menu, and click on the top layer. Then click on the wand tool and bring it to the white areas and click on delete. Then you have just the lines. Click on the bottom layer, and color that in... If that makes sense xD.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll fix the outlines. But what you said, does it mean I have to start all over? <font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i have the whole shading thing down, but the last thing i need to know is how to highlight.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Minnowpaw For Approval
Not used to apprentices ... is she alright?-- Darkhallows Lair 08:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought that she was dark gray. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

It said black and white on her page...-- Darkhallows Lair 19:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Millie - For Approval


She became a warrior, so I thought i should make her. I wasn't sure about the tabby markings, but i may end up re-doing them anyway. PLease post what you think. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I love the stripes Dawn. She looks great! I think she could use a little more belly shading though.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I LOVE HER, but I have to agree with dawn. Stretch the between-the-front-and-back-legs shding towards the back a little bit. Other than that, she looks almost EXACTLY like Millie!!! -- MU MB LE 785  19:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

DO NOT REDO THE TABBY MARKINGS. They look great! Personally, I prefer this style of tabby markings over the other kind. Nothing against any of those tabbies, though, they still look good. I love her eye color. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 22:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I added in some more shading. If you liek these markings, you'll like Tigerclaw's better. They are the same style, but his are a bit neater. Speaking of Tigerclaw -- is he llong haired or short haired. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 22:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Rosekit- For Approval
I used the same shading as I did with Blossom. I wannted her to be long-haired, and a a nice looking image... but my GIMP froze and I lost it. Soo I have this. The whole 'dark cream' thing was confusing- Cream is a diluted ginger (I think) so dark cream would be similar to light ginger? Whatever, here she is.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I love her!!! But she could use some more shading inder the head, and between the front legs. ;) Nice work!!! -- MU MB LE 785  19:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Haha I just noticed we both reserved Rosekit. :) You reserved her first, and got her uploaded first, so I'll let you have it. Mine looks waaaaay different than yours. Yours is a lot lighter, and I didn't put any tabby markings. I imagined dark cream as being more of a rosy ginger color. Yours looks more like a smoky pale brown. But maybe that's just me. Also try making the tabby markings less saturated, they look kind of odd against the diluted fur. Do I sound harsh? I don't mean to... --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 22:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Apprentice? (Maybe)

 * Here?


 * <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 00:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)