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Rosetail(A)-for approval
Rosetail's apprentie charart! This is my third charart. Hope this goes well! Comments for approval?

ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 03:02, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes need to be lightened a lot. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 04:43, June 29, 2010 (UTC)\

Add/darken the shading, lighten the stripes a lot, and make the ear pink bigger. Icefall★ Talk 14:35, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm on it! :) ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 22:32, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

That look any better? ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 23:07, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Icefall★ Talk 00:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

'kay ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 15:16, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

That better? ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 20:02, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and darken the ear pink. Put your signature next to your message, not underneath it--  Night s h i n e    ~  23:09, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Done ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 14:33, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger. Blur the stripes. Darken the tail stripes--  Night s h i n e    ~  18:41, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth out the stripes, like, blur them, ♥Ice  shine★  12:33, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long! :) ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 23:12, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the body stripes a bit and blur the earpink. Ashshadow Ag 03:14, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Done ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 18:44, August 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Make the eye colour more visible. 11:46, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's kinda hard to do since her eyes in her warrior and elder charart is a really dark blue, but I tried. ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 00:12, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Some of the lineart is gray and the stripes are still a bit too dark. 00:15, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights lap with the lineart making it gray. 03:01, August 11, 2010 (UTC

Darken the ear pink and blur the tabby stripes. 20:18, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the tabby stripes are fine compared with the other images and they look very nice this way. I would suggest to saturate the ear pink some more to have it stand out against the stripe color. -- 02:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Could you desaturate, or make the lightest part a bit smaller, the highlight on her flank? It's just bathering me. 11:51, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Sorry, I haven't been updating much lately. The internet's been really bad. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:39, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink and darken the image. 22:09, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight's too bright, it's nearly white. 02:15, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Done! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 05:02, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a kinda reddish color. The light pink color blends in really really well with the pelt color so it isn't that noticeable. 16:35, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think this looks great! However, try to darken the ear pink color, like someone said. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  23:01, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

The tail seems really really dark to me. 20:57, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

It only looks like the base of the tail is dark. Lighten it. 23:13, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Done.ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The base of the tail is still kinda dark to me. 03:49, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

There are still some spots where the line art is blurred/lighter than it shoulder be; her arm closest to us, her haunch, her back paw farthest from us, and just a little on her upper back. 12:13, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the shading more...smoother. Blur it and the stripes. 14:28, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if my eye is lying to me, but I see some brown or discolored line-art one the front leg. 22:32, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it. You still see it? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I still see like..little lines? 02:53, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the ear pink. 03:15, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

There's still a bit of blurred line art on her right arm. 13:12, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and the haunch seems discolored to me? 17:44, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe blur the chest shading a little? 16:21, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's blurred enough. 01:30, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Foxheart (Alt.D)-For approval
hope you like it (First Real Chartart) Rainear 03:39, June 29, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

Sorry, this will have to be declined, Shimmerpool had him reserved first.  Dawny  03:45, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

No that that users is "Alternative Warrior" mine is "Alternative Deputy" Rainear 03:49, June 29, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

Opps sorry.  Dawny  04:14, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I took him out of thumb nail for you. You should always upload it full size. As for the image, the lineart looks very strange, and it's way too big. What art program do you use? Second, It's not the same color as the deputy image Foxheart already has. This is yellow as apposed to ginger. Third, there's no shading at all Night  Fall 06:15, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks very strange...I would say to layer a deputy image on it. Add shading. The pelt color should be the same as his warrior image. Make the ear pink smaller and darker. Icefall★ Talk 14:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks as if you traced it. Did you? Icefall★ Talk 15:03, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it shows up waaaaaaaaaaaay to big. Like you saved it about three times the normal size of the file. And, it does look like you traced the lineart. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! It's tooHOT!   15:15, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Also, rename it Foxheart.deputy.alt.png Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   18:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Here:use this and color it in. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 02:46, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I used My Paint if you want to know :) -Rainear 19:04, June 30, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

You should use GIMP or Pixlr to do chararts. This is too big. Use this blank:--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine is right. Use one of those programs, and save that blank to your computer. ☽Ice storm★  19:19, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Please use GIMP or Pixlr to add shading. Layer over the line art I gave you onto your image--  Night s h i n e    ~  20:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I Dont have Gimp or Pixlr all I have that works with the template is Paint. Rainear Med-cat of Riverclan

Okay, first, this needs to be bigger. Right-click the image Nightshine gave you, press, 'open into new tab' and then save that blank. Go to pixlr.com, and open the image. Then, you should probably re-do it/layer the lineart over this image. Then, darken the shading, blur it, make the ear pink smaller, darken it, and blur it. Also addd shading to the front of the haunch, tail, and face. ☽Ice storm★  21:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Also, use a tutorial for the eyes. Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   23:37, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, you don't have to start a new section when you are redoing it. Instead use the old section you put up, then put the image there. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 14:41, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I've merged the two sections. Please continue to edit from here. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  21:11, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I haven't read Bluestar's Prophecy at all but, how is Foxheart described in the alternate version? (Time for a trip to the bookstore xD) Quailflight  05:17, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

lol, yes. In the allegiances of Bluestar's Prophecy, she is mistakenly described as a tom. And, in Battles of the Clans, there is a chapter where Foxheart is a tom throughout the entire thing. But I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be a she-cat, especially after reading Secrets of the Clans. The Clan suspected Foxheart as being the secret mother of Brokentail, so you know xD Night  Fall 05:19, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-How is it now? Rainear  be as silent as rain

Add shading. Ashshadow Ag 03:00, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Added shading Rainear   be as silent as rain

Blur the shading and there is color outside of the line art. Ashshadow Ag 03:23, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Blured shading (Hope it's better XD) Rainear   be as silent as rain

Not bad for a beginner, but lets get to business. It can be a tad hard shading when your image has a transparent background so you probably see some gray smudges around him. That came from your work of burning my dear friend. Plus it looks like you ran over his eyes with the burn tool as well with changed his eye color. The coloring is kind of darked than Foxheart's original image so try dodging it or desaturating it some. Which ever you prefer :) Once thats done then you can blur in the shading as it looks a little choppy to me, but that might be my computer.--  Gladiator  Band Geek  05:03, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Blured Shading even more to make natral fixed eye and It's not darker than the origanal Charart Rainear   be as silent as rain

Is it better or worse? Rainear  be as silent as rain

Reloaded-I know no one mentioned but I looked at the Foxheart page and his eye color is light green so I change the Charart's eye color. Comments? Rainear  be as silent as rain

It has been a day and a half and no one else has commented is it ready to be acepted? Rainear  be as silent as rain

You should wait at least five days, if not a week for asking for comments. As for the image, blur the earpink. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  02:47, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Also, the line art on the jaw looks a bit odd, as if some of it is missing. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  02:48, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-I fixed jaw lineart and I blured/redone the ear pink. Comments? Rainear  be as silent as rain

Oh! I added some shading/highlights on his face. Any Comments/suggestions? Rainear  be as silent as rain

This has an unusual texture that I don't normally see, and it's very pretty. You did a nice job. =) There are a couple of things though; the front foreleg's shading's transition is too hard; blur it and add some more shading down the leg. Add darker shading to the hind paws, as those would be in shadow. Add a little more shading down the tail and blur the existing shading slightly. Off image critique now; I moved the image to the top of the section; please keep it there so it's in a consistent spot. Also, you seem to be only typing three tildes instead of four; please type four so the timestamp will be there as well as the signature. -- 12:19, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-I did what you said bramble and sorry about the tail I did what you asked but I think I blured the transaction too much Rainear   be as silent as rain  15:31, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is there anything else that needs to be done? 21:02, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

You should wait a few days before asking if anything needs to be done, but I see that there is blurred lineart by his left ear, and on his left leg and haunch, but if it's shading I'm seeing instead then you should blur it. Tiger X Amber We see Heart to Heart 12:20, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Thanks Riverpelt fixed the ear, leg, and shading :) Better?

Darken the ear pink and darken the shading a bit. The chest line art looks a bit funny, overlap it with another of the long haired deputy blanks and it should be good. The line art also looks strange around the front of his haunch-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:22, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Darkened the ear pink and tried to darken shading and fixed the Line art

Thicken the shading on the haunch and blur all of it. 13:33, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Did what you said Ashshadow :) . Better?

The red part indicates that the shading is blurred and theres also some color mixed up. The blue indicates color outside the line art and the line-art color is changed. Lol..it's kinda messy xD I don't have a good stable hand. 17:51, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's coming along nicely. Darken the shading a tad. 17:48, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Tried to fix it hope it's better XD

Blur the shading. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:46, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I reverted it to one of its original forms as the shading is lovely right as it is shown now - it doesn't need to be changed further. Saturate and brighten the ear pink to have it stand out a touch more, but don't make the transition hard, and I'd call this good. -- 02:55, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

You took the words right out of my mouth, Bramble! (Seriously, I said the same things, clicked save and it gave me the edit conflict thing) Anyways, I think you should make the eye a bit brighter. It looks really pale. 03:19, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The tail color where it's not shaded looks...brighter than the rest of him. I'm not good with pixlr or gimp or whatever, but maybe blurring the shading just there would help. Don't mess with it otherwise, Bramble and Dove are right, it looks amazing! 11:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art is still blurred and some of the line-art is brown. 19:07, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the entire thing, this is brown-ish compared to Foxheart's other images. 70.64.149.241 05:37, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Just got back from camp fixed it up. Except it is not brownish and I took the color from the deputy Image so yeah! Comments?

Rainear, even if you took the colour from the other images the colour will be different because of shading and highlights, and your shading could've made it look that way, too. Even if you took the colour from it that doesn't mean anything. If you compare it to her other images the colour on this is duller. That was me above, by the way. 05:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

And almost all of the lineart is blurred. 05:25, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Looks awesome :) just fix some line art on his ear Dusksong 21:13, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I just wanted to point out that Pixlr is a website, and a very handy one at that.

Zor th Highly   Explosive  01:32, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

None of the line art is blurred Dovesong and Dusksong, I checked and I don't use Pixler or Gimp I use My Paint and I think the coloring is just fine Dovesong

Make the ear-pink noticeable. And the line-art isn't blurred because they fixed it. 02:15, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'll fix the ear pink (could you give me the color example Red-pink Salmon pink) and I checked the saved copy on my computer Frostheart

Well, I guess just a bit more noticeable. xD A bit pinker. 16:37, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's awesome, but try to define the ear-pink a bit more. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  23:05, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Done (Still not shure) and yes the ear pink is blurred. Comments? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  14:21, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, but try to make the ear-pink blurred, a bit? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:04, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. Blur it a bit. 20:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, the lineart is blurred. I've checked a million times and again just now. It's supposed to be hard pixels. And like I said before, this is very dull in comparison to her other images. . . also, please don't call me dovesong. Not only do I just dislike that name, there's another person on here called dovesong now, so yeah. Thanks. 05:57, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Also, the shoulder lineart on the shoulder looks different. And the ear pink is very pale. 06:01, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art looks fine to me, and make the ear-pink...salmonish? And blur it. 22:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the chest and head, and front of the haunch. 03:18, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Guys. I took the image and looked at it in GIMP, the lineart wasn't hard pixels like it's supposed to be. If you took it and put it in GIMP and went close up you would see the lineart isn't pixelly. 04:28, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I see it too, Dovesong. Rainear, look at the line art close up in GIMP and then make it one solid colour. 13:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I also see it. Spread the highlights more. 19:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, finally! Also, it doesn't matter too much but I'd appreciate it if you'd call me Mosspool, because there's a different person in the project called Dovesong. Thank you! Also, someone to all of you who don't know I'm pretty sure when Rainear says My Paint she means a downloadable program which is pretty much has all the same features as pixlr. 00:18, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I researched it and it is. 02:02, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-(Sorry it took so long but I was working on my new Wiki XD) and yes it is the same program your talking about but I got it in a Email I got. I spreaded the shading looks like there's no shading at all though, Fixed line art again (Like the 4th time), and sorry Mosspool Rainear   Let the rain guide you  05:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. By 'My Paint' I thought you meant 'Paint' and by capitalizing the 'M' I thought it was just a grammar mistake. :P Blur the ear-pink still and make the highlights more noticeable. 01:31, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Blurred ear pink and changed/redone shading Rainear   Let the rain guide you  07:13, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Morningflower (A) - For Approval
Morningflower as an apprentice; not very happy about the way she came out...anyways comments? Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 02:11, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

It looks very good! I suggest adding more brown patches. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:20, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Added more patches. Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 03:21, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches more--  Night s h i n e    ~  03:27, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Blurred it.Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 05:23, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. Darken the shading, I cannot see it very well. ♥Ice shine★  15:02, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Darkened the shading. Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 19:14, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Center the ear pink a little. Cherryfur123 Home + work should never be together! 21:06, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Thanks! Fixed the ear pink.Anything else? Ðαώήlέαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 21:33, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Add some patches to the tail. ♥Ice shine★  12:22, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Added patches to the tail.  Dawny  19:54, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's looking good, Dawnleaf! Just add some of those yellowish colored spots that her other images have to make it look more like them. ;) Cherryfur123 Home + work should never be together! 22:29, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty! Do what Cherryfur said about the tan splotches, but also work on earpink; it looks like one of the brown smudges to me. Could you make it more of a pale pink, bigger, and more blurred? Holly dapple  04:54, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Urh... This looks good, but I already reserved it. I couldn't work on it because of my exams, but Insane said that it was ok.... I'm confused and a little bit annoyed. ωiſdɦɛɑrŧ 05:29, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wildheart: You should have posted something here so we would all know. We would've given you a bit more time. As for the image it's very good. Just do what Cherryfur and Hollydapple said. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  17:52, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this image, Wildheart, if you would still like to you can take over. Dawny  19:56, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnleaf: Aw, no! You don't have to do that! Yours is way better than mine is, anyways. Keep on working on it, and next time something like this happens, I'll just post something up here about being delayed.

Ashshadow: Insane told me to put a note in the table where I reserved Morningflower's apprentice pic, and I did so, but apparently somebody deleted it. I'll post something here next time. Hopefully there WILL be no next time :P ωiſdɦɛɑrŧ 23:01, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I did see that note about the time I was looking for a cat to (before Hawkheart). As an extra suggestion on improving the image, Dawnleaf, the shoulder highlight is a little too low. Make it a little higher. Three cheers for the red, white, and blue!  23:21, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, I don't want to do her anymore, someone else can take over, from where I left off. Dawny  01:57, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

If i cant do Ivytails (Alt) version i will do this (wait how do i edit it i save it and put it on my pixlr right? oh well i will learn.)  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 13:44, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh NVM if its ok with everyone can i do this  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 22:56, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Wildheart's doing it. (?) ♥Ice  shine★  22:58, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Thats wierd its crossed out like this

Wildheart Morningflower (A)

thats what it says  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 23:06, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Birdpaw is right, I checked. Why is does it have a strike-through through it? Has Wildheart decided to not do Morningflower? I'm confused. The same thing happened before, didn't it? I can't remember...I'm a little sleepy, and my cat (Gertie) is trying to get my attention by biting my foot and being the cutest darn thing. Holly dapple  03:58, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Can we decide whether anyone is going to do this as I am confused as to whether to archive this as withdrawn or not -- Sandy star 18:01, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I'll finish it. No sense letting a nice image go to waste over literally nothing. I'll tweak it a bit and put it back up. I seem to attract Morningflower images. =D -- 01:01, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Bramble; and yes you do XD (Not to mention I failed in my goal to do all her images - I got bored lol). The main issue with this I think is consistency with her exisiting images; just the colours used are not quite the same. [I'd also like to note that the past tense of 'withdraw' is 'withdrawn' rather than 'withdrawed' for whoever wrote that - it's not important who] 11:59, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Aw i wanted to do her...Oh well may i suggest making the earpink a tad bit bigger?  Sandle  GregxSara forever 18:42, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

The original image was lovely in its way, but it bore no semblance to its counterparts. So I completely redid it, and it now most closely resembles the elder image, as the cat is facing the same way in the elder and apprentice images. The ear pink has also been made larger. I apologize for how long this took.. -- 04:32, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a tiny bit bigger. 22:15, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger and more visible 15:09, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Does it really need to be bigger on a black cat? 08:57, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Try to make the ear pink bigger, and maybe less blurry. Other than that, it looks AWESOME! ♥Featherblaze♥  Meow to me!  23:07, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink. 20:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I can see the ear pink jkust fine, but I agree it should be a tad bigger. Not much, just a tad. 23:16, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. By defined I meant make it more shaped. 00:26, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. -- 02:42, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The eye looks pale. 22:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

They're the same colour as the ones on Morningflower's other images. 23:06, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I checked the other ones and they were more amberish? :P 02:53, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the brown spots on the tail lighter. 19:21, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well, here's Hawkheart. I like him about as much as I like Thistleclaw. (I. Am. Not. A. Hawkheart. Fan.) Still, I thought he'd be fun to do. All character art is fun to do! Hawkheart was a bit of a challenge, which made it even more fun. Gotta go see the coverart for The Sign of the Moon (I saw it while I was uploading)! Yay! So, comments? I'm kind of happy with how he turned out. :) Holly  dapple  04:19, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, but we've got to figure out which style we're going to use, yours, or Moonpelt's. Personally, I prefer Moonpelt's, it looks more flecked. But that's just me Night  Fall 04:38, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Nightfall. I know my Hawkheart doesn't look like Moonpelt's. I was thinking about how I was going to do Hawkheart for atleast four days. I really liked his/her style too, but I just can't smudge it in that cool way. I tried, but it looked horrific. I am not joking. I can't make it smudged without messing it up. Holly dapple  04:51, July 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well if we're using yours, lets blur in the flecks some more please :) I can see a bit of sharp edges in some a little. They are like REALLY sharp, but they're very defined and kind of make it stick out.-- Cchslogo.gif Gladiator  Band Geek Treble_and_bass_clef_heart.png 05:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. All spots blurred with Photoshop Elements, Shimmerpool. Did I get what you meant? I saw it on the throat patch particularly. Man, I'm sleepy. But TW is over, so I can get back to work! Yay! Anyway, if there are any other areas in particular that look weird, let me know, please. Holly  dapple  06:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

This looks nice. I have two small suggestions: the ear pink is a little big and is almost falling out of his ear. And the highlight on the shoulder, as well as the spots could do with some more blending. Perhaps try using the smudge tool a little on the spots and then blending. It takes some getting used to but looks good. 12:05, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Fixed the earpink, blended the highlight, and smudged and blurred the spots. I kind of like this. :) But I was wondering if since he's supposed to be "flecked", maybe he should look more like Ashfur or Ferncloud? Oh, and before I save this, if I don't respond to any messages right away, that's just because I may not be able to get to the computer (what with the homeschooling, cats, computer, and heat!). But I didn't smudge the paws because two of my cats have shag-rug long fur, and their paws are not smudged. Holly  dapple  05:03, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, maybe he should look more like Ferncloud and Ashfur. Darken the shading around the forearms and haunch a bit more-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:24, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that if you add a few smaller flecks to what you already have then it will be fine. 11:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. I added a few smaller flecks...I don't know if I messed it up. I darkened the shading around the forearms and the haunch. Do I need to darken it a touch more? Holly  dapple  21:04, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Add more tail stripes and darken the shading on the forearm and chest-- 23:06, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * smacks forehead* I forgot to reupload...ugh, stupid Hollydapple. So technically, now he's reuploaded. I did everything I said above...sorry. Holly  dapple  21:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Define and blur the ear-pink more. 20:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

He looks great. But can you...maybe add some more shading on the haunch? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

He looks wonderful! Maybe add some more stripes on his tail? 20:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks. I added more haunch shading, more arm shading, and more chest shading, as well as the tail stripes. I didn't understand quite what you meant about the ear pink, Frostheart. What do you mean by defining and blurring the ear pink more? Holly dapple  17:03, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ending is a bit rounded, make it more straight to be like a triangle. Other than that, this is fantastic. 00:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks, Frostheart! Don't know if I blurred the ear pink too much. If needed, I'll make it more opaque. Holly dapple  21:25, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller. 21:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. 22:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I just redid the earpink completely. Holly dapple  21:11, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more defined and blur it some more. 22:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks like its falling out of the ear, trying moving it further up. -- 03:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the haunch a bit. 19:53, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Foxheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well I think I got the colors right for this one and I counted right so it should be under the limit...unless someone beat me while I was uploading this x] Here's Foxheart as a male :3 Commentsto let me know because I think I might have to darken the image.--  Gladiator  Band Geek  04:42, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

You did WAY!! better than me. XD (Foxheart Alt D) I think it looks awesome!! :D Rainear   be as silent as rain

Good! blur the highlights. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 09:32, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit. Dawnleaf 19:22, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Updated my updates shall come at a slower rate now that school started for me today.--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:41, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * mine does not start till september 6 lol blur the earpink a little bit more :) and dont laugh at my siggie its two last names meshed togeher  Sandle  GregxSara forever 16:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the ear pink.-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:25, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading. 00:57, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit bigger. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:42, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

The tail shading really doesn't need blurring nor does the ear pink need to be larger. I do agree it needs to be a touch darker and blurred. The midriff shading seems too large and is rather dark and blotchy; further the highlight from his chest area down and make the midriff shading thinner and less in the way. -- 02:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if this is probably a stupid question, but can you please explain the midriff Bramble? Also do you mean the whole image needs to be darker and blurred or just the tail? My mind is overpowered by school work so I'm falling behind on this art O_o please don't decline guys.--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:54, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * The midriff is between the haunch and shoulder area. It's okay, no problem, my mind is overpowered by school work and marching band, too, so I understand compltely. :) 20:37, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Smooth out the darker shadow patch on her shoulder. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 03:54, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks Ice...well updated--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 18:26, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Make the ear-pink a bit reddish. 03:14, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks great, but can you try to darken the ear-pink? I can barely see it. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:08, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Make the ear-pink a bit deeper. 20:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * The highlight on the tail looks a bit weird. 22:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded...and you might actually want to say whats weird about it--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 04:51, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Define the ear-pink to make it like a triangle and lighten it, it looks very bright right now. 19:54, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry Frostheart but that doesn't make any sense. Why would I need to lighten it some if you say its bright?--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 21:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

To darken it is usually to make it deeper shade of red, but either way could go if it is too bright. By make it lighter, I meant make it more salmony or pink..xD 01:32, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * T_T I'm about to seriously stop listening to anyone about color changes. Thats back to original color that I had the ear pink, the exact color I got from Foxheart's original image. This problem has happened too many times and I'm considering to take a break from this and go hiatus...Reuploaded--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 16:57, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. 17:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Waspwhisker (W) - For Approval
I counted and this was the 35th, and this is Waspwhisker. Any comments/critisism for him? S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 08:15, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Fixed blurred lineart around body S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 08:15, August 7, 2010 (UTC) '''

This is great! Blur it a little more, though. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 12:12, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Ashshadow Ag 13:37, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

The patches are unevenly blurred, A N D Y S C H L E C K<font color="#009dff">Mousehis now obsessed!  15:37, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Fixed up some of the patches, I don't know about the shape, but I blurred and darkened the shading. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 22:24, August 7, 2010 (UTC)'''

Theres blurred line-art on the back, and the ear pink needs to be blurred a bit. Also darken the shading, otherwise this is pretty good :) Dawnleaf  22:27, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: I tried to darken the shading, do you mean to burn it so it gets darkened? Thats what I mostly did, I blurred the shading and fixed the blurred lineart. Can someone do the scar for me? pixlr is all fuzzy for me right now. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 06:24, August 8, 2010 (UTC)'''

Dude, the scar I drew was bad, but I added the scar for you Sunny. Hope this is good enough Earth  bender Tawny Style! 17:27, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Thanks Tawny, It's great. Comments? S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 05:13, August 9, 2010 (UTC)'''

Your berry welcome Sunny. ;P So far, its looking great. Myself, I can't see anything wrong. But maybe...theres a patch near the ear pink. Blur the gray part just a TAD more. Earth bender Tawny Style! 12:55, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, the scar kooks unrealistic. It's unevenly blurred, like before. 16:00, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if this really matters, but isn't his pattern a little. . . far fetched? I thought he would just be gray with white markings. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 20:24, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

If it is bad, I can honestly start it again, if the scar's unrealistic. But Thats up to you guys. Should I just start him again??? S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 21:53, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the scar you guys, Sunny, I have an original version of Waspwhisker without the scar if you like. But if you have a version,...then you know... Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:20, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the pattern is a little unlikely (but what do I know of cat genetics?) and perhaps starting over would be a good idea. Persevere though because this is almost there and your second try will be infinitely better than your first. I haven't read SD so I don't know where the scar should be, but having it drag over his flank, midsection and chest area seems a little... well not quite realistic. 12:08, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Tried a different style. I'll add in the scar later. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 23:48, August 10, 2010 (UTC)'''

Blur the patches more. 23:56, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink 00:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Much better Sunny! Darken the shading and make the ear pink more pinkish. Perhaps darkening the eyes too. 02:30, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Waaay better. Blur the patches and ear pink a bit. Also, the highlights need to be blurred in some places. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 06:18, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Dawny & Mosspool AKA Dovesong! Is this better? I darkened the shading a tad, and blurred the patches. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 09:13, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

There's a blurred spot outside the lineart on his chest you should remove, and maybe blur the highlight a bit more in between the haunch and the left foot, but very good Sunspirit! Tiger X Amber We see Heart to Heart 12:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches a little bit. 20:15, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Blurred patches, fixed lineart and blurred highlight. LOL i just figured out that you weren't supposed to use the smudge tool for a blurring tool XD S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 07:17, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. This image is a gray and white patched cat; do you think he should look more like he did in the SkyClan manga (Gray with a white muzzle, chest, and underbelly)?-- n i g h t  s h i n e  15:00, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it has to. It matches his description and the manga is just how the artist pictured him. Feel free to ignore me. 16:27, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, as Night said, blur the patches and earpink. 00:56, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on his haunch a bit more. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:41, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I made a different version, sorry if thats inconvenient. Choose which one looks better or something. 09:37, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The first one. The patches just need more blurring. 13:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I perfer the first one. The shading on the white fur needs darkening though. 19:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Did as everyone asked. Nightshine has got a point about the magna, but in the magna Ravenpaw didn't have a white dash on his chest, and he did in the books. I'm horrible at making gray & white chararts! 05:32, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot-- 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's great, but it looks kind of flat. Add some highlights and more shading 02:16, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. The shading on the white fur needs to be darkened. 18:14, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, i don't know how to darken it! I've had a guess, but how does everyone blur everything without touching the line-art? 01:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

To darken the shading on the white fur, set the burn tool to "Highlights" and set the exsposure to 6. Blurring just takes practice ;) 05:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Dawny! Darkened fur color, is this anywhere near done? XD 06:03, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lineart on the bottom of the haunch is blurred. 12:29, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Line-art around haunch and back is blurred. 20:40, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I love it! But like someone said, can you fix the blurred lineart? It's also blurred near the tail. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:09, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is a bit brown right now. Blur it, also. 21:00, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry everyone, I will upload it tomorrow, pixlr wont let me get on today. 06:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the transitions a bit. 12:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the spots a bit more. 22:42, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I blurred the patches, fixed the line-art, blurred transitions and everything else. I also made the highlights more visible, because I had them before. Is this better? 05:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The tail looks a little bit blurred, I think. 17:44, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the back paws a bit, they look like a very pale gray colour on my screen, rather then white. The lower part of the haunch as well as the tail, has some blurred line-art. Darken all the shading, particularly on the white fur. Other then that, I think it looks pretty good. :) -- 03:45, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't a white she-cat suppose to be a very pale gray? If its slightly darker, it's probably due to the shadows the other legs are casting. 01:33, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, a white cat is supposed to be very pale gray. I'm just trying to point out that the back paws look a little too pale gray, and that they need to be lightened in my opinion. -- 06:02, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. xD The flank (I think..xD) that connects with the back-paw line-art looks blurred. 15:34, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rockshade (W) - For Approval
Fail, fail, EPIC FAIL!! I am NEVER doing a black cat again...ha ha they are unlucky. I know the highlights on the shoulder are too noticeable, but if I blur them anymore, then the color goes missing because photoshops blurring is too strong. So...comments? Earth bender Tawny Style! 15:25, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Use a darker color for the highlight then you should use Pixler.com or Gimp although I use nether, I use My Paint but I alway have to remake the background to make it transparent Rainear   be as silent as rain  17:49, August 8,2010

Blur the shading, make the highlights darker. The shading is also lumpy and seems exactly black to me. Make the highlights smaller. Frostheart ♥  17:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I fixed the highlights, shading, and I lightened it. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:28, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 19:08, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are basically taking over the complete picture now. Just redo the paint, add some shading as you would. Blur, then just midtones in highlights, and click once or twice. Make sure it's not bigger than size 50. Frostheart ♥  19:47, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

He looks dark gray...I suggest making the image darker. Dawnleaf 19:53, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I realized that something changed in the pixlr highlighter, so get rid of the highlights, redo the shading and choose a slightly lighter color for the highlight, choosesize 50 and just pretend thats the highlight. ^^ Frostheart  ♥  22:07, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED:Frostheart, I use photoshop, not pixlr. (I only use it to delete the white part). Anyways, I darkened the image,fixed the highlights. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:30, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights smaller and make the shading noticeable in the leg area. Frostheart ♥  02:37, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I made the shading a bit more noticable, but I epically FAILED on the making it smaller part. ;P Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 13:52, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's much better now. Just even out the shading on the hind leg. That's it. xD Frostheart  ♥  19:12, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Ifixed the shading on the hind leg. Suggestons? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:08, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch,otherwise this is great! :) 22:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little lopsided. 03:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks fine to me. 13:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Same here. And actually, black cats are lucky in Europe, and white cats are bad. 0.o 12:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: fixed the hind leg shading. Suggestons? Tawny is here... 22:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading.-- 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Where, specifically? (sorry, but I'm starting to get demented ;P)


 * I'd say to thicken it on the chest and haunch but not the midriff, and to blur it everywhere =) 08:59, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Thickened the shading, but the shading on the haunch won't blur anymore, I'd HIGHLY appreciate it if someone could help me with the blurring, and I also lightened the highlights because I thought they could have used some brightning. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 16:11, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I opened this on GIMP and I don't think I blurred it that well. xD I think you darkened the shading too much. 16:23, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Frostheart! Yeah, my shading is now like permenatly black on like all settings, I don't know why. Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

You should change the opacity, it usually is on 50 you can change it to like 20. :P For Gimp, just adjust the thing at the bottom. :P 18:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I took your advice, Frostheart. Fixed the shading and lowered the opacity. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm very picky. xD The ear-pink is very blurred.... ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  22:56, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Great :( ... do I have to re-do it, or...un-blur it (is that even possible?) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 00:44, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is what I do :P. I color pick the area nearest to the ear-pink (the highlights,shadows etc) I fill the pink with that. It's okay if it isn't the exact same color. Choose an ear-pink color make a triangle, blah and then blur it. The blurring should even out the pelt color if it wasn't the same. 14:37, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to fix the earpink, but I made it MORE blurred I think....Random Question, but Frostheart, are you an apprentice or warrior for the PCA?

Yeah, I'm an apprentice. Why? :P

I just thought because you give good advice that you'd be a warrior, and you are very helpful!! :D Well when you get your 5th charart approved, I'll definatly be cheering for you!! Anyways, back to charart, any critcism? 00:23, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a little whispy, are you using a smudge tool? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:33, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hehe. Thanks. ^.^ 02:54, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

No, I don't use the smudge tool, I use blur...but I've noticed that it's looking sort of...whispyish. I'll fix it ASAP. 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder, school starts on Monday for me, so I'm not going to have that much time. So on Monday, someone is free to take this and continue to work on it, if that's allowed... 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'll work on it a bit if you'd like, and if it's allowed. :P 17:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading.-- 18:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: That'd be great, Frostheart! You can start the work immediatly on Monday. And I blurred the shading and highlights as much as I could. 18:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Am I allowed to keep up my Jagged Rock photo and help you work on this? 19:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it depends. I might leave Charart for a few months so I could focus on school work, but basically, yes. But I need to talk to Bramble about it... 19:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, don't leave. :( 23:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

lol if I don't my dad will murder me (it's happened before...) But I won't leave forever! Basically, I would only come on for like the weekends and a month at a time because my main goal is school work. But definatly by December I'll be a full member again.

Just blur the shading more and this should be ready-- 01:17, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :) Please leave messages on my talk-page to know your alive. :P Just blur the shading a tiny bit, it's great. 02:03, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading more, but if I go any harder, my computers gonna blow up at me. And don't worry, I'll stop in every now and then to tell you that I'm alive lol xD Any more Comments? 13:27, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Try blurring the haunch and chest shading a bit more-- 17:33, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading as much as I could. Still, theres barely a difference :( Someone else is going to have to try and blur it, because my computer will NOT cooperate when it comes to blurring (first it was too strong, now it's too weak) 01:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (W) - For Approval
Eh. Comments? Geor ge 00:04, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Define ear pink and make ear pink slightly larger Rainear   be as silent as rain

This looks very nice, but the ear pink is gray and very small. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ 00:30, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Is this over the limit?  Sand  It's not your fault Texas 01:34, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, there are five discussions and one withdrawn image.

Anyway, darken the stripes a bit. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 01:56, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger and pinker. Frostheart ♥  02:35, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

This good darken the ear pink a little and make it tad bigger and darken the tabby stripes a little Honeyfeather 07:35, August 9, 2010 (UTC)Honeyfeather

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Geor ge 13:25, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is sort of a gray color right now, make it pinker or redder. 14:11, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

He looks more patched than tabby. Perhaps define the stripes more.. 23:29, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Same as Ashshadow, he needs to have more defined stripes. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:Teal; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Iceɦɛɑrŧ 23:59, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The style is a bit messy. I think you should darken and define them. 00:29, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I actually like the indefinite stripe pattern; not everything has to be precise, especially in the natural world. Other comments on this? I do agree that the ear pink color needs to be changed to a brighter, red/pink color. -- 03:19, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Dang, forgot to say, '''Reuploaded. '''Comments? Elorisa -sama  12:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree that not everything has to be precise, but he really looks patched to me right now. 20:32, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I put up another image to consider. It is in the style of Heathertail/Brindleface, and then there's my pitiful "patched tabby" attempt. Which should be used? Elorisa -sama  16:33, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I, myself think that the first one should be used, but many others may disagree with me. Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:02, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The patched tabby one. 00:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I like the striped one personally. But for the character, go for the patched one. 02:21, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Not to be rude, or anything, but could we come to a decision soon? I am doing the apprentice pic, and I have to decide what style to finish it in =P Thanks 03:37, August 23, 2010 (UTC) ...Oh, and for what it's worth, I prefer the striped one.... but you know that already, Elorisa =)

So 2.5 votes for patched and 1.5 votes for striped (I counted Frostheart as a .5 vote for each cuz she liked both), patched WINS!(unless some else votes ;) ) 17:19, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

.... I supposed I'll have to redo the apprentice pic either way lol.... COUGHCOUGHSOMEBODYELSEVOTEFORSTRIPEDCOUGHCOUGH...... =D 03:11, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Guys, no one ever said this is a vote. Personally, I like the patched one better, but Elorisa can do whichever they want >.< 03:24, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't a matter of votes. I just looked up Creekfeather, and I believe it's supposed to be a tabby. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  22:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The patched one is supposed to be a tabby. But in my fail world, that consittes as a tabby. in most other peoples worlds, everything has to be perfect >.< I'm not sure what I should do...I might just withdraw it to spare some pain... Elorisa -sama  00:29, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

NO!!!!! I LOVE this picture! 10:26, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I like the first one as it looks more natural. Keep whichever of the two you like Elorisa and don't withdraw this because either way it is close to approval in my opinion. When you have decided which to keep we can go from there. 12:27, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

They're both very pretty. The stripes are very cool, and so are the patches. The ear pink is kinda small on both of them. Make it a little bigger. The shade is perfect for the cat, I think. Good job! Holly dapple  21:34, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink triangular. 22:44, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I have decided. The weird first one is my decision. Elorisa -sama  11:56, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it's not really weird, but you spent most of your work on it...And I like it too. 13:56, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish and this should be ready-- 17:32, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Also make the ear-pink more like a triangle. 19:55, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Egg (Lo) up for Approval
So here it is. It's my first one, so I know it's not that great, but what do you think? <font color="981f1f" style="background:Gold">Breezestar <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> Only a Breeze... 04:22, August 10, 2010 (UTC) 

You're gonna have to redo it - it needs to be a png file. -- 04:27, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I changed it <font color="981f1f" style="background:Gold">Breezestar <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> Only a Breeze... 04:43, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

De-thumbed it. It looks pixelly. You can fix that by blurring the parts that are pixelly. Also, he has no eye colour. De-saturate it a bit, too. He looks too yellow right now. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 04:50, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it File:Egg.loner.png. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  15:11, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good for your first image. :3 I would say what the others said, and darken the shading some. ;)  Kit ties Rule da WORLD! Mumble sees a kitty!!! 16:51, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is his eye black now? Like I said before, you need to desaturate it as well as blur the shading. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 20:52, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Add eye color blur shading add shading on back legs and look at the Charart tutorials

By back legs, I think Rainear means the legs fathest away from us. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  18:12, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty good for first char art just blur the shading and I don't see and eye color. Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  21:13, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Add some ear color and blur the shading a bit. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 22:36, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur. 15:21, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Add eye color. 15:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks green to me, make the ear-pink more noticeable. 04:10, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make his eyes blue as said in his description. Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  00:17, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

make the ear pink more realistic and blur shading more. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 23:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nice, blur the ear pink more :) Shruggy talk 13:42, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Should he really have a shredded ear? He got the ear because he was in the battle with the twolegplace cats. 20:41, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

There's a bit of lineart outside the shredded ear. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 22:29, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

He is still yellow-ish. He needs to be browner, Daisy's pic is a good example. 70.64.149.241 05:42, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Please work on this or it will be declined 07:58, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Breezestar please say Reuploaded or Updated when you update your image so we know that it's been worked on. As for the image choose a more pink color for the earpink. 12:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I changed the ear pink color and made it darker. Is it right?

Blur all of the shading

Darken the ear pink-- 19:09, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The shading still needs serious blurring. 20:45, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Shrink the ear pink. It's odd that you don't have a link. Most think a link should be done in a blink.

Don't mind me, I'm crazy.

<font color="Green" font face="Papyrus" "background:gray; border:3px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Zor <font color="blue" font face="Papyrus" "background:black; border:1px dashed -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">th Highly   Explosive  01:26, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink noticeable. Blur the highlights and shading a bunch. 02:22, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is way to thick. Thin it. Darken it and blur. The ear pink should be darker. 02:27, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Agreeing with Ice, make the back shading thinner and bring up the highlights Earth  bender Tawny Style!00:45, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink deeper, thin the shading and blur it a lot. It appears blotchy to me for some reason, even though it probably isn't. The highlights are too bright and in unrealistic areas. By unrealistic, I mean, if the light source is coming from the area i'm talking about, it should be spread out more. :P 22:45, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more pinkish. -- 03:57, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back shading a bit more. 17:28, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) - for approval
20:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

My first cat. I don't know about it... 15:43, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Plumwillow.apprentice.png and blur the earpink.Also, I'm pretty sure this is over the limit.-- . Silverstar  . talk  15:50, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

This is good and like silverstar said blur the pink ear XXRainfeatherXx 15:54, August 10, 2010 (UTC)Honeyfeather

I think it's blurred enough, but the corner is touching the ear, make it shaped and make it lighter. Frostheart ♥  17:14, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too pink. Make it a bit darker. It's amazing for your first cat! <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  17:22, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The top of the haunch needs blurring. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:01, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Er... like Silverstar said, this is the 38th charart up for approval on this page, which is over the limit. This project talk page is only allowed to have 35 sections (chararts for approval) at a time. 雨晶須 夏天來了! 21:53, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

So what do I do? Should I make the corrections or is this taken down and sorry, I miscounted.68.84.233.244 23:29, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! That was me. I thought I was signed in. 23:31, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I made the ear pink not touch the line art, darkened it and blured the shading and thanks Rainbreath. 19:23, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

You still have to rename it to Plumwillow.apprentice.png --''' . Silverstar. talk '''00:13, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I forgot to mention that, but I did it. 01:32, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

No, you didn't. You called it Plumwillow_Apprentice.png. I know it's pretty small, but hey, my coal warrior one was originally called Coal.Warrior and they changed it for one capital letter. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 05:53, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry mosspool, I fixed it now. Is there anything I need to change with the image? 16:00, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller. 20:11, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and darken the haunch shading. 00:27, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Darkened and blurred shading.--<font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:Blue;">Will <font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:Green;">oww <font style="font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:Yellow;">hisp <font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:White;">GO<font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:White;">WARRIOR <font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:White;">CATS 02:25, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the shading around his hind-leg, and maket the ear-pink lighter. 04:10, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how to fix the shading on her hind leg because every time I blur it, it gets bigger. What sould i do 18:26, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

On the blur tool, make it a very small brush and zoom in so that you can blur in detail around the haunch area. Blur thoroughly in that area so there are no hard lines between any transitions. The ear pink color is fine in my opinion. -- 03:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? 19:09, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights slightly. 19:51, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Blurred highlights. 15:33, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading a bit more and make the ear pink smaller-- 01:29, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? 15:26, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The highlights look beautiful, but the one on her front leg is in the middle of the lineart. I think you should move it back some, so it's more in the middle.

Re-uploaded Better? 01:18, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think this looks lovely. CBA? 09:13, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a lighter. It looks purple right now. I feel so bad for ruining CBA. Dx 02:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry Frostheart, if it's not ready then I understand. I'm at my mom's work so when I get home I'll fix it. 20:13, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, now that I don't have to feel bad about ruining CBA (lol Frostheart), it looks to me like there's this little dent on the top of the earpink. Perhaps you could smooth it out a bit? 05:15, August 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Might I just say that it's not about 'ruining CBA' because when a senior warrior puts that on an image it's a matter of their opinion that the image is ready. The whole point of having CBA is that this project isn't a dictatorship and that the senior team aren't infallible. =) 12:31, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, Sandy, but you got to know that feeling where you see "CBA" and you go OMG MY CHARART IS ALMOST APPROVED and you get all excited and then somebody comments and it's all like "noooooooo...." lol you know what I mean? 20:04, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine though, I only saw Frosthearts thing and then Sandy's. Anyway, better? 20:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Maybe blur the shading on the top of the haunch a TEENSY bit. Just a tiny bit and then it looks perfect to me =) -- 21:12, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight near the shoulder. 22:46, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-upload Better? 23:52, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it more still. 17:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish, its like hot pink right now. Also blur the shading on the haunch a bit. -- 03:52, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Coal (R) - For Approval
Err... my first rogue. Comments/Criticism? 雨晶須 夏天來了! 14:05, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Great. Make the ear pink smaller and blur. 17:18, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 17:59, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 21:11, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Rain whisker  17:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the entire image. He looks dark gray, not black. 22:31, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Because the line art is black, the image has to be a really dark gray, not black. 23:18, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

But still, it's lighter than the loner picture. 20:44, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Umm... so should I darken or not? 01:26, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think you should. They should be dark gray and not black, but he can still be darker. 03:41, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 21:02, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darkened and blurred. 01:13, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more. -- 20:42, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Still, blur the highlights a bit more. 22:47, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I've blurred the shading, and the highlights are blurred to the max. 01:53, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. It's a bit unnoticeable -- 06:23, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

It's the same color as his loner's image, but I'll brighten it anyway. 19:17, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Brightened ear pink. 19:29, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should keep it at the darker color. I mean, like many other say, the images must be consistent. ;D 01:34, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'll revert it then. 18:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Honeyleaf(R) - For Approval
This is my first pic. Comments? Flowerleaf 14:25, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

nice but i see no shading or highlights and you might want to darken the ear pink a little but nice job :) Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  14:41, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darkened ear tip but you can barely see it now Flowerleaf 15:30, August 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * hits self on head* im soo sorry im meant make it redder sorry if this is annoying you DX and also add shading and highlights but highlights are opional.:) Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  15:34, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

XD I'd better start working on it Flowerleaf 17:06, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading. Make the ear-pink lighter, kinda of a red color. And I agree, preferably add highlights. (Lol! I just think stuff looks better with highlights. xD) 17:31, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I got the ear pink color from Mistyheart's guide. And how do you shade/highlight? Flowerleaf 18:09, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights aren't necissary, but you may add them if you wish. I believe is shows how to shade a rouge on Mistyheart's guide. 19:56, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

But I'm confused by the 'size 70' thing.... What does it mean? Flowerleaf 01:08, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's the brush size. Whatever size you use make sure it's the faded edge. On pixlr.com if you've been using paint. 01:17, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Does it work on Gimp? That's what I've been using..... Flowerleaf 02:00, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. It just won't be size 70. Pick a brush that isn't too small or too big. 02:25, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I added shading the best I could. I'm not very good though... Flowerleaf 02:43, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

You can barely see the shading..... 19:09, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

She's too...orange. I think you should darken her and add some more stripes to the belly, head/muzzle, and chest. Darken/add shading. 21:42, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

-removed pics- Which ones the best? (i know that i need to blur the tabby stripes on last 2 and add/darken shading to all but last. and the last 2 are fails :P) 18:25, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, way too orange. There should be more stripes, and more shading. The name 'honey' suggests a brownish orange. Look at Honeyfern's images. Darkhallows... Mew? 03:08, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh.. she is ginger. Still, needs to be darker. Darkhallows... Mew? 03:13, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

So um... which pic should I edit and stuff? (see above) 15:02, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Tried new version (I know I need to add shading and stuff but I'll do that if this pic is good). 20:11, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Made a brand new one. I think this is the best so far :3 00:43, August 19, 2010 (UTC

If you edcide to do that one, then alright. Delete all the others. Make nose-pink and make the ear-pink noticeable. 00:51, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

'Kay! 01:15, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 01:32, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ear-pink and ear-nose is too bright. 17:14, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 17:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

She looks Firestar-red. She should just be normal ginger, not dark/bright ginger. 22:02, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree with Mosspool, too bright Rubyblaze 13:23, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Better? I dodged her some to make her a lighter ginger 16:41, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The earpink looks hot-pinkish to me. 20:40, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks pale pink to me though. 22:19, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and shading. 14:37, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 17:01, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink and nose-pink is purple (kinda) 02:25, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? (I redefined the stripes) 12:22, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ear and nose-pink is still pretty bright. 16:39, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? I darkened both of them. 17:13, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see a difference. Try making it a deep red color. 21:25, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 21:57, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Kay. I don't really know what the ear-pink color should be like right now. xD Maybe make it a brownish red? 03:16, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 20:45, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The colours good just make it a bit more triangular. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  20:53, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine right now, but blur it more because there is this deeper red then it fades out on the ear-pink. 21:03, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred it more. 22:13, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

She looks dark ginger in this image. It really needs to be like, yellower. It's deep red in this. 05:50, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sigh. First people say it's too orange but now it's too red XD Better? 10:39, August 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, lets get this color cleared up. If it's yellower, then it'll be golden, when her article states that she's ginger. So maybe it should look more like this: Color_4_honeyleaf.png Anyways, that's how I imagined her...but you all may have different thoughts...

The color is perfectly fine, in my eyes. It looks like Firestar's kittypet image.



See? 17:59, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Although, if you ran the dodge tool over the entire image on exposure 50, it would look lovely. Running over it once would make it look perfect, to me anyway. 18:09, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly I don't see a problem with the pelt color. It's the nose thats bothering me. Make it darker. 19:19, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sigh. Better? 20:53, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, my bad. It does resemble Firestar's kittypet image, and that's good. I, myself thing the nose pink is great, and the entire image. But others might have thoughts, but it's like 5 in the morning for me...(I'm an early riser) 14:42, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The nose-pink still seems purple to me. Am I having color confusions? :O 22:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Tried to update it but it shows up wrong. On my computer anyways. 00:05, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Honeyleaf.rogue.png. Make the ear pink bigger, darken the stripes a bit, add more stripes to face.-- 00:19, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Look, it's 'Honeyleaf10.rouge.png' cause this is the tenth version ever since I made a good one. I'll rename when I don't have any more room on my desktop and have to delete almost all of them. THEN I'll rename it 01:05, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just keep it named Honeyleaf.rogue.png, you don't need to have all of those copies-- 01:24, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The nose-pink looks a bit like Firestar's now. Just lighten it a bit and it would be great. 19:24, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 20:39, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Copy the color off Firestar's nose. That sounds weird. :P 23:01, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

There's a problem and I can't upload the edited pic. It just shows another file with the same name I submitted before. Please bear with me b/c I have to name the file 'Honeyleaf11.rouge.png' until someone fixes the problem. It may be my computer but I don't know. 23:33, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a tad bigger. 01:32, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Just overwrite the previous image, it doesn't matter. 02:04, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I did 13:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

By what you said, it did not seem like it. 19:56, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry :P 20:16, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine. :P Add some highlights to legs, I think there should be like...er..xD Add highlights to the legs, from the angle, there should be a faint trace of light. 01:36, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Really? I just followed Mistyheart's guide. It didn't say anything about highlights on the legs. 02:17, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

It usually just follows the 'basic' trace of light. If you understand. xD 02:23, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Uhh.... I don't understand.... 12:29, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind then. xD Darken the shading on the belly. 15:58, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Better? I made the earpink bigger, redefined a stripe, and darkened belly shading. 18:36, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rowanfur (KP)-For Approval
I'm not too sure about the shreded ears. I also added some faint tabby stripes. I can get rid of them if needed. 21:49, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit. This looks very golden, can you make it more gingery? Blur the tabby stripes a bit and maybe add more along his back-- n i g h t  s h i n e  21:52, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'll darken the highlights a bit(those are what makes him look golden). The stripes look overblurred if I blur them anymore and I based him off of Redstar. 21:56, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the face stripes. 22:58, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the face stripes more. Otherwise, it's great. 23:23, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. When I said the stripes I meant All of them. 23:53, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think he needs more stripes. It looks funny how they're only in the places where their is shading. Also his ear pink and nose are far too dark. 03:01, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I like it this way, actually. Makes a nice change from how an orthodox tabby would normally look. Other opinions on this? -- 03:39, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

This still looks very golden to me.-- n i g h t  s h i n e  05:17, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

It must be your screen than. It doesn't look golden to me. 13:02, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Does it look golden for anyone else? I think you should still make it more gingery-- 17:41, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

He does look very golden to me, Night shine. I agree he needs to be more ginger. 18:30, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by more ginger. If you google ginger cats they're not bright orange but closer to this color. 18:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make him more orange, then. 18:52, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I also agree, he looks golden. And can a tabby cat even look like that? 19:00, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

A tabby can't but a ginger cat can. It's called solid ginger. I still don't think it's too golden though.This is a picture of my color reference for ginger. 20:21, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, a tabby can, but I don't think a ginger could only have stripes on the legs. (google 'lynx point'). I would add stripes all over, or just get rid of them. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

He has stripes on his face too. This pattern isn't very common but possible. Other images also have this style.See here and here. 22:12, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Right, I forgot about lynx points. I agree, Shady. Just because other cats' images do doesn't make it any more realistic. 22:33, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ashshadow, about your colour refference, in a real photo there are many different coloured pixels that create the image, so choosing one of them isn't going to look the same colour as that cat. He looks very golden compared to that cat. 22:40, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I never said I took the color from that picture.I merely uses it as a reference. Compare this image to a golden cat it doesn't match. He looks ginger on my screen and I'm going to stand by that. Also like I said before it's not common for this pelt design but it is possible. It's called solid ginger or something along those lines. 22:47, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, maybe you have a weird computer screen. I'm sorry if I seem stubborn or annoying or something, but he looks golden-ish. Just because he's not golden like Mothwing's image or whatever, doesn't mean he doesn't look goldeny. He looks golden-brown-ginger. And like I said before, his ear pink and nose are very red. I think you should make them a bit pinker. 05:43, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Sorry, Ash, but I've got to go with Dovesong on this. It looks golden to me, too.

reuploaded. I lightened the nose a bit but you can't see the earpink if it's any lighter. The point I was making was that it wasn't golden. The highlights may have given it a slight golden tint but that's because I chose a more natural orange color. 19:33, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The color will stay as it is. If you can say it's golden-brown-ginger, then you're being a little too picky. Y'all are reacting like the pelt is blue. Are there any other comments besides the pelt color? Personally I see nothing else wrong with the image. -- 19:55, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt color is fine, but again, I really don't think the stripe pattern is possible. Maybe faint-er stripes, if you don't want to remove them. Darkhallows... Mew? 03:03, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly Shady you seem to be the only one bothered by the stripe pattern. Sorry but I really don't think I should change it. 22:38, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

12:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Cool thanks Sandy! It's really hard to find good images like that. 12:26, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with it. If you just search up 'tabby' or 'tabby cat' you'll find a bunch of pic that have similar stripe patterns. 01:19, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think...I think there should be more stripes, not just where the shading is. Apparently this picture was made when the sun was on his back...also nice work with those ears! :D

<font color="Green" font face="Papyrus" "background:gray; border:3px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Zor <font color="blue" font face="Papyrus" "background:black; border:1px dashed -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">th Highly   Explosive  01:22, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm Not adding more stripes so I would appreciate it if you would stop asking. Thanks about the ears :) 21:16, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I really love this. xD Blur the stripes a tiny bit more. 02:26, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

As I said before the stripes look over blurred if blurred any more. 13:51, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the ear pink a bit and blur the shading at the base of the tail-- 14:20, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

This looks really really great. But the shading on the fore-arm seems un-natural if that's where the light source is coming from. 03:18, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''The light source is on the back not the fore-arm. 13:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I know. I meant the light-source on the back, I felt too lazy to write it. xD 14:24, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The light source has nothing to do with the shading on the fore-arm. The head would cast a shadow resulting in shading there. 20:17, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. xD Sorry. I thought the shadows were caused by something else. 20:21, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks lovely. Comments before approval? 12:18, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading needs to be blurred a bit. 21:52, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The shading doesn't blur anymore. 00:43, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Uhhh. . . 04:24, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit. Do you use pixlr for your shading? Try blurring it in GIMP, you can easily download it.-- 01:19, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I do use GIMP and like I said eariler the earpink is hard to see if I lighten it. 01:21, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

If there are no more comments, restarting 24 hrs. 16:35, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

What does that mean? 20:10, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Tinycloud (W) - For Approval
1 Word: Fail. Comments? 21:52, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It looks very flat right now. Try darkening the shading in some spots to make it have more texture-- n i g h t  s h i n e  21:53, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should thin the shading some aswell. 21:58, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading or the highlights more...depending how you would take that in. Hehe. 23:23, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger, lighten the shading. 02:59, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is lovely. Blur the shading, as Frostheart said. 21:39, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Ok, I fixed it all up, any better? 07:44, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it a little bit more. -- Sky dragon Flight of dreams... 19:45, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Nice picture but blur the shading a little more--the colors look a little seperate. Willowheart1231 22:50, August 19, 2010(UTC)Wllowheart1231

They look very different. Just lighten the shading and blur it. 20:43, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it's my computer, but there's like a...stripe? of highlights on her chest. Just blur the as much as you can. Also, blur the shading.....Good though, Dawny! :D

Yes, blur the shading some more and the ear pink. 14:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I apologize for taking so long, school has really taken its toll. :\ Anyways, I blurred the shading and ear pink. Thanks Tawny. 20:06, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Could you really blurr the highlight on the back? Other then that it looks pretty good! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind the above, it just needs on the hind leg ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:47, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Blurred shading. -- 22:14, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Try making the shading lighter. 22:49, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks fine. Darken it a bit near the left edge around the chest and forearm. Darken the tail shading-- 01:20, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Darkened the shading. -- 05:17, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a tiny bit bigger and darken the tail shading more-- 17:31, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit bigger and add shading to the tail. 01:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Made the ear pink bigger and darkend the shading on the tail. Frostheart, if someones already pointed out somthing that needs to be changed, you don't have to repeat it. :) -- 05:41, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh..sorry. Didn't read Nightshine's comment. :P 15:58, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading under the left forearm. 20:12, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Billystorm (KP)- For Approval
I can't get the earpink the right color. The eyes... what do you think? idk Darkhallows... Mew? 22:27, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the eye highlight slightly smaller, lighten the white, color the nose, and darken and enlarge the earpink. That was a mouthful. 22:30, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

His pupil should be black, no? 22:41, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the white parts whiter and make his foot completely white. Darken the shading a bit. There is some blurred line art around the collar-- n i g h t  s h i n e  22:50, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add some white near the arm and the haunch. 22:55, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ice, there doesn't need to be white there. It looks like his image from the manga and his warrior image-- n i g h t  s h i n e  23:05, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. On the warrior image, he has a white stomach, but nevermind about that then. 23:19, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

The white sort of looks ginger-ish. Also, blur the highlights. And he needs nose pink. Also, his eye lineart looks grey instead of black. And his ear-pink is way too small. 02:58, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the colllar tag the same colour, and there is some colour outside of the tag. 16:41, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ehh... This was somewhat experimental. Is he better now? I didn't blur the highlights- those were there to show faint striping (if you look at a cat in the sun, you'll see them.) Darkhallows... Mew? 21:35, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Why did you get rid of the collar tag? I just wanted you to make it all one colour :S 21:40, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I had some formatting issues... somehow the tag disapeared, I wasn't trying to get rid of it. I just fixed it. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:44, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it more reddish-- 21:51, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Done. And changed to Billystorm.kittypet Darkhallows... Mew? 22:02, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink more and darken the shading a bit more, excluding the back shading.-- 04:38, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

The white on his tail covers almost half of it. It should be smaller. Also, in his other image he has white on his belly and such. That little space by his leg and haunch should probably be white as well. 22:03, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Darkhallows... Mew? 23:14, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The white still covers half his tail, and there's still no white on his chest. 05:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry! Fixed. Darkhallows... Mew? 05:43, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The foot thats mostly hidden wouldn't be white. Thats the back of the foot, not the paw. 21:21, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a deepish red. 03:19, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

There's still too much tail-white if compared to his other image. 05:48, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, at the top of the haunch. -- 22:16, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit deeper. It looks hot pink to me, then again, it could just be the color against the orange skin. 22:50, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry this is taking so long. I was switching internet providers (again) and now GIMP isn't working. I'll try and fix this in a few hours. Darkhallows... Mew? 01:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Mintfur (SC) (W) for approval
My first Charart!! If Mapleshade can't be done because it's not avalible yet this should be under the limit. I'm still new to this so I'm not sure, but what do u think?<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  02:29, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes Flowerleaf 02:30, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I took it out of thumbnail for you. This is a good charart, just darken the shading and blur the stripes. And, if you don't mind me asking, what does SKC stand for? :\ 02:33, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

It stands for SkyClan. I like this, just make the ear pink darker. 02:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Add more tabby stripes on the left side. (chest) Also fix the stripes on the legs, it needs more than just straight lines. 02:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Thank u for changing it from thumbnail, like I said, I'm new to this.I blurred the stripes and darkened the shading and ear colour, but i could be darker in the ear, but for the leg stripes thats what her kit picture has so should I change it or leave it the way it is?<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  03:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, just leave it. It looks good now. 03:24, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't look at her kit image. Now it's a tiny bit too blurred, but as I said before, add a tad more stripes near the chest. It's great. :) 03:32, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are a little too blurred now. Sharpen them a bit. 03:58, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

My sharpen tool refused to work properly, so I had start from the original and do everything again, but I like it better like this as oposed to super blurry.<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  04:56, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

SPECIAL K!!!!!!!!!!! I AM SO PROUD OF YOUUUU. Disregard the caps, peoples. Blur the chest shading a tiny bit. ωiſd ɦɛɑrŧ  06:13, August 16, 2010 (UTC) .......PS I can't believe you got your first charart up BEFORE mine -_-

Fixed it. Thank y'all for all the help.<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  17:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC) PS. i got mine up first because i wanna be a warrior before u coa coa puffs.

...Blur the stripes. 19:12, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I blurred the stripe again and if i do anymore blurring they get blurry so i'm hoping this is a happy medium. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  19:47, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. 21:37, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Did it.

Make the ear pink a bit bigger-- 21:54, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Did it. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  22:50, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

.The ear-pink looks a nearly white on my computer. 01:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I tried to match the ear colour with the chart. Hope the ears good now. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  05:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and thicken the haunch shading. -- 04:39, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Did it, but now the stripe in the middle looks weird and i don't know what to do about it. Any suggestions?<font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  22:17, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not expert but to me, you may want to blur the shading a teeny tiny bit more Rubyblaze 13:10, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred it. I think it looks better. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  18:21, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 14:35, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Did it. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  20:43, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'd call you your religious name, but people might be offended. Anyways, I like it, looks great, and I think that people need to stop fussing over the ear pink. (Sorry, Special K) Make it a little pinker and I think it's fine. 01:13, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Did the ear (grrrrrr). <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  04:55, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Looking good **winkwinknudgenudge** COUGHCOUGHCBACOUGHCOUGH 07:12, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? or no? -- Bravespirit Fight till' death!! 17:37, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Bravespirit and Wildheart, only senior warriors can declare CBA. Please be patient. 17:52, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I KNOW, Oblivion, I was joking. If I WAS a senior warrior, I WOULD be "CBA"ing, but I'm not, so I'm being annoying instead. =P 20:33, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry they were being impatient for me. I have the attention span of a two year old and want to get this approved so i can move on. Anyways any suggestions so it can get approved? <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  21:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit more-- 23:15, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Better? <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  02:47, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink seems like a glob right now. 03:20, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Made it more triangular. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  04:33, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The stripe on her flank seems a bit unnatural, perhaps sharpen it and make it straighter? 12:26, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the stripes curve in a weird angle. The stripes on the legs look like you just dashed them across. Maybe connect them to the line-art more. 22:52, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Which stripe, and which leg? I'm determined to get this right. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  23:59, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- i fixed what i thought looked weird about it but... i don't know. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  00:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are fine. Not everything has to be perfect and regular in the animal world =) -- 00:37, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. I just think it looks a bit funny when it is 'Y' stripes then it turns to straight lines. It looks fine on the kits because that's how those kit images are done. 19:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. Anyways, aren't the chararts supposed to be consistant? -- 06:08, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not used to it. This is the only charart that I know of, and notice how i said I. xD This is the only charart I know of that is like this with those stripes, even with the kit stripes like that. 19:58, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Are you talking about the tabby style? There are plenty of images with this style. I agree that the stripes are fine. 20:27, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay then. :) This is the first one I have seen. Hmm..the leg stripes look really blurred to me. 20:55, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. I think the stripes look fine, maybe just lighten them a bit to match the other stripes. -- 19:52, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks like it has a little chip in it. 19:56, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rabbitleap (W)- For Approval
Criticism and comments please! Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Both are great, but the article only says a brown tom. Not a mottled brown tom. The second one appears golden to me. Also, blur the shading and add ear-pink on the second one. 16:29, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, how could I forget that? I'm re-doing both of them. Also, it doesn't clarify what type of brown, and I think mottled would make it more interesting. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Took them out of thumbnail. Add earpink on the second one and make it more brownish. 16:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I have to say the second one. I'm pretty sure if he was mottled it would have been mentioned. 16:47, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I re-did them so they're both brown. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Use the second one, as there is nothing saying he is mottled. Make the earpink more noticible. 17:15, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

How is the new one? I edited it. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

It's good but you can't really see the ear pink, maybe lighten it. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  17:52, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Now? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Mabe a little more. 18:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading-- 18:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Is it better now? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more pinkish. 18:38, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. You already did. Make it bigger, then. 18:39, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, is that good? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more. 18:45, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

This good? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more of a triangle shape. It looks circle now. 18:55, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

How's this? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. And instead of saying "Better now?" or something like that, just say reuploaded. Not to sound rude though. xD 19:03, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, though it doesn't look much different. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. 19:08, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you just said... Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

She means that fix the shape and make the ear-pink more noticeable. The ear-pink is the ear color. 20:03, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Please rename this Rabbitleap.warrior.png. Darken the shading-- 21:04,August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too...pink. Make it reddish. 21:34, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Are you just searching for criticism? XD Anyway, it was reddish before. Any senior warriors think it's ready to be accepted? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks fine to me. Darken and blur the shading more-- 22:16, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine, do you think it's ready? Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Spread the highlights. Make the shading even in the haunch. Also, please be patient. xD It hasn't even been 1 day. 22:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 00:53, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art is brown in his haunch and it's also blurred. 15:14, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the burn tool just makes it darker, and it's actually not blurred. Sunleap 13:21, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but if you get rid of the shading then you burn it again, lighter, then it wouldn't make it darker. Yes, it's still blurred in the haunch. 15:36, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 16:05, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

There's still brown in the haunch and a tiny bit blurred. The red is blurred and the blue is brown. 17:45, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunleap 20:52, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

From the angle you're doing the highlights, it seems as if the highlights should be on the tail and the back legs too (only a bit.) 21:17, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sunleap 21:24, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 21:24, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink like a triangle.

The earpink is fine in my opinion. 19:16, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I still personally think the ear-pink should be like a triangle. :P 22:53, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

It's triangle enough. Sunleap 23:08, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

To me, it isn't. I only see a glob. Sorry if that to be rude, but it does to me. :P I have fail eyes. xD 00:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink shape is fine. It doesn't need to be a perfect triangle. 00:49, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I know. But I keep seeing it like a glob all the time because I mostly go on at night with the light not on. xD 02:57, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Center the ear pink-- 01:21, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art on the flank/haunch --I'm forgetting my cat parts. Dx is much thicker than it should be. 19:57, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Jagged Rock Where Heron Sits (Ro)- For Approval
Total Fail. Criticism/Comments? 18:22, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Add some darker mud as well as the mud he already has but it's good a side from that. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  18:29, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the brown patches more. 18:31, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the mud some. 18:33, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is over the limit-- 18:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's the 35th one. I counted it three times. 18:50, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's the 36th. Sorry. 19:05, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

One is withdrawed, I believe this is the 35th. 19:09, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Whoops. 19:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I added a dark mud and a light mud one. 20:36, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The mud streaks are too thick. Mak them thinner. 21:28, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Which one is better? I just did a whole new one. 23:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I like the second one best. The earpink looks sort of...weird, like there's a dent in it, but my eyes might be playing tricks on me. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  23:24, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The second one looks better. 12:16, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The second one's color looks better, but the stripes are to thin, in my opinion. 12:21, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the mud streaks a little more Rubyblaze 13:19, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred mud streaks and fixed ear-pink. 19:41, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the mud streaks should be blurred anymore, but maybe you should smudge them to give it more of a streak sort of look

I smudged them, but I'm not so sure. 16:37, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Should it be non-smudged or smudged? Opinions? 03:04, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dunno.... Also I can barely see some of the mud streaks so can you define them a bit more? Don't define them too much though. 12:47, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's your computer or something because I see it fine. 16:41, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Guess it's cuz I have bad eyesight ;) 17:16, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Do what the others said. Other then that its good.^u^ <font color="981f1f" style="background:Gold">Breezestar <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> Only a Breeze... 19:47, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more triangular 20:48, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is as much as a triangle as it can get. :P 21:04, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps make the mud on his shoulder (where ther highlights are) more defined? They look to blurry to me XP 04:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't get rid of this other one. I have two pics in my files titled "jaggedrocksits.rogue and jaggedrockheron.rogue" So I got confused. :P The modify and remove button won't appear. Anyways, reuploaded 05:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind fixed it. 15:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. 16:08, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yay. :P 17:46, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten this a lot. It doesn't looks like his caveguard image that much: Rename this Jag.rogue.png. Make the ear pink more reddish and define the mud streaks. Darken the shading-- 01:23, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. :) 01:57, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I think Hag`s cave guard image needs to be darkened a lot anyway as he`s silvery in that one while Jag is dark gray. I think you should just leave it dark and nominate the other one for the next tweak week, because his images do not look dark gray. 03:40, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Getting confused now..xD 04:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten it. For now the Chararts should be consistent. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  06:13, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm just saying, they look silvery not dark gray but for now I suppose Iceheart is right and you should leave it. I was just making a point. And fail, I called him Hag XD. Make the mud streaks darker, longer and thinner. 18:46, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is very confusing. xD Reuploaded. 20:04, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry xD Blur the mud a tiny bit. 21:49, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Stupid Gimp's blurring keep on making the stripes lighter. 02:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come? : 20:09, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Shorty (W) - For Approval
- GIMP's blurring made the stripes look purple -_- He was a bit of a challenge to do, but it was worth it! I'm actually quite proud of him. Comments? 22:29, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make his tail a bit shorter. Define the stripes. Darken the highlights-- 22:32, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Define the stripes on his tail. 22:37, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Take a tiny bit of black off the middle of the paw. You should be proud :) 22:55, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights. Besides that, he looks good. 11:47, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are just a bit too bright. Also, his page says he has amber eyes while on this picture his eyes are green. 23:20, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

True, but his page, the rogue also has greenish eyes. 23:51, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

What eye color does he have in the books? 20:44, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: The stripes didn't look too blurred to me... 20:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but he still has amber eyes. I'm sure you've seen lots of images where one has this eye colour and the other has that. . . like Tinycloud! Her apprentice image has green eyes but her page says she has blue eyes so her warrior pic does, too. 22:37, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

So should I add amber eyes? 14:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes you should. The stripes are too blurred. Define them a bit more. Darken his paws, they are lighter for some reason. Make his tail rounder.-- 19:35, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: The ligher spot was a highight. 19:58, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The paws are still really light. Darken them. Make the stripes a bit thinner and longer. Define them more, they are still blurred a lot-- 22:37, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I defined the stripes, made them sharper (which is also longer) and darkened the paws. 02:10, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I really loved the first one you made, I loved the blurred texture. But if you're going to stick with this one, blur it a bit more. And the middle stripe has a weird sharp ending. 02:28, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I blurred it a bit more. 02:34, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I think you forgot to change the eyes...

Re-Uploaded: Fail on my part. Added amber eyes. 22:08, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Make the tail a tiny bit longer and add stripes to it. 19:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Made the tail longer and added stripes. 19:36, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Theres a dark brown spot on the legs closest to us. Lighten or blur them a bit. 13:21, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Blurred dark brown spot. 16:11, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should make the stripes longer and thinner, and if you can just a bit father apart. On his rogue picture, they're longer and skinnier. 21:39, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm...I like them the way they are. I think I'm going to wait for more opinions on that. 21:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Try to make the ends of the stripes sharper. 22:54, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I have to diagree on changing the stripes, they look pretty good to me. The only thing in my opinion, that needs changing is the ear pink. Just define it a little bit, otherwise great job! -- 04:23, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I actually re-did the ear pink. GIMP is stupid when it comes to making the ear pink shorter :s 17:44, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Guys, if you actually look at his other image, they don't really look the same. The images are supposed to be consistent. You'd only need to make them longer, a bit thinner and farther apart. You know, GIMP's scaling (re-sizing) tool works wonders. 18:44, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Your right. Make them slightly curved and longer. 01:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I actually re-did the stripes, and made some edits to the image as well. 02:22, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. The eye colour looks rather red to me, I suggest desaturating it a tad to make it appear more amberish. -- 06:11, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a lot. Darken the two back paws. Make the ear pink pinker and blur it-- 17:44, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the tail? 19:58, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nettlesplash (Ki) -For approval
Okay this is my first charart to get approved Comments? 01:44, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and make the ear-pink bigger. 02:01, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink redder, and is it my computer or is his back a whole lot darker? If so, lighten it. 02:45, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

It is. The shading on the back is also really blotchy. Try and make it one solid colour. And there is some blurred line art under and on the right side of his mouth. Also, make the earpink bigger and more noticible. 03:01, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

The tail needs to be darkened, in my opinion. 11:44, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''Redone. '''Comments? 13:11, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a little sloppy. 13:20, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. The highlights look blotchy. Blur it. 17:41, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Nettlesplash.kit.png 01:21, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur ear pink and darken the face shading. 02:36, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. Shadowshine's computer is down at the moment and we can't redo it on any other computer. We are still looking at the comments on it and we will get to it asap!! Shadowstar and Blueshine remember Moonclan

Redone. Finnaly I got my computer fixed XP but I still cant promise the next update... Comments? ShadowstarandBlueshine remember Moonclan 02:44, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks kinda dark for pale brown. Lighten him a bit. 12:16, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Redone. '''Comments? ShadowstarandBlueshine remember Moonclan 13:39, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight. 14:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink as well. 18:20, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay both of our computers are down at the moment and we will try to get them back up as soon as possible so we can get this approved. (ShadowstarandBlueshine remember Moonclan 21:14, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Add more highlights. 22:54, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

@Frostheart: I thought you said highlights are optional -- 06:27, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they are, but in my opinion, the way the highlight is coming in, I think it should reach further up, maybe to the head a bit. 14:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Rename the file: Nettlesplash.kit.png -- 01:02, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ahhh, pixlr.com is still down is there any way that someone can give me a place were i can down load GIMP?? Thanks!! (: ShadowstarandBlueshine remember Moonclan 13:17, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Pixlr's down? o_o That's odd, I was practicing my torties yesterday and it was fine. :P You can download gimp here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-win/files/GIMP%20%2B%20GTK%2B%20(stable%20release)/GIMP%202.6.10%20%2B%20GTK%2B%202.16.6/gimp-2.6.10-i686-setup-1.exe/download

Mintfur (SC) (A) - For Approval
It should be under the limit because Gorsestar's warrior pic got declined. This is my first one, and I did it on pixlr. Willowheart1231 01:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

The tabby stripes seem odd. Make the ear-pink smalker and more neutral. The line-art is blurred in his leg area. 01:40, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripes are cool, but more should be added. 02:33, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink some more. 11:57, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Willowheart1231 21:47, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

The kit picture doesn't have any stripes on the chest. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  21:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Most tabby kits are like that anyways. 22:20, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

So... no stripes on chest? Willowheart1231 22:40, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

You could afford to add some more stripes. And by the way, most of the time people don't draw stripes on the kit image's chests just because they can't. .. just saying. It looks lighter than her other images, too. Darken it a bit. 23:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkeded it a bit and added two or three more stripes. Willowheart1231 23:37, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I think you need to brighten up the ear some more, I can't hardly see it. 22:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Brightened ear pink. Willow heart  23:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I still think you should remove the chest stripes. For consistency. 12:19, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure. I made her kit image a long time ago when standards weren't as high as they are now and people not quite so picky so I was never asked to add stripes to her chest. Dovesong: It wasn't that I couldn't draw them, rather that they weren't asked for and I did the image in a different style. I'm quite happy to add stripes to her kit image if this is deemed the better version. 14:21, August 21, 2010


 * (UTC)



No i'm doing the warrior version and i didn't put stripes on the chest and i agree with Ash that they should be removed. But aside from that i like this picture. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  20:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so. Real tabbys do have stripes on their chest, and usually on the kit images, they don't put stripes on the chest because they can't. 15:30, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone tell me stripes or no stripes on the chest? Thanks! Willow heart  01:36, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

For consistency, like Ash said, i wouldn't. The images should look all the sameish. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  04:35, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Most tabby kits who become warriors have stripes on their chest. Their could be a few stripes on kits chest, but most people don't do it. 16:43, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Took off chest stripes. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 21:28, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Good choice now sorry to bug you about the stripes again but you should have more stripes on the back across from the chest and blurr them a bit. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  22:07, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Add some more stripes. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 23:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

In my personal opinion, remove the stripes again (LOL. OPPOSING MINDS xD) the stripes looks crammed. In my personal opinion, the other one was much better because of the akward transition of the stripes to no stripes. Just my opinion though, ignore it. LOL. 23:26, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

The second stripe on the top of his back has this little white glob on the end of it... and maybe make the earpink a teensy bit smaller 02:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think your talking about the highlights. 14:31, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, I wasn't, but it's gone now, so did you change it Willowheart? It looks fine -- 21:58, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry, Wildheart, about that. I did change it, and you were right, there was a whiteish blob at the end. Do you think I should change the ear color to match Mintfur's ear color in her warrior image? (See above, her warrior image is still being approved) <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 23:26, August 25, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Reuploaded. Changed ear pink color to match kit picture. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Maybe go over that one stripe again because it got a little fuzzy when you blurred the little white blob out. Otherwise, looking good!! -- 05:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Remove some of the back stripes. It looks crammed. 15:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thank you Wildheart! Does that look better, Frostheart? I also want to say thank you for your invaluable advice! Though I still have a while aways to get this pic high-quality. =D <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 23:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Hehe thanks. xD The ear-pink line-art is blurred and make the ear-pink a tiny bit smaller. 02:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps shrink the earpink a little bit - it seems like it's touching the lineart. -- 05:12, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. The earpink is filling the whole ear-space. 14:27, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art seems blurred on the head, ear, and the fore-arm closest to us. 19:27, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Crowfeather (Lo) - For Approval
Ok, this is only my first charart so what should I improve? 14:04, August 21, 2010 (UT

Awesome for your first try. Darken the shading and blur the ear pink. 14:31, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is great. Hehe ^^ Darken the shading and blur ear-pink. 15:07, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, Whitestorm! Darken the shading, blur the earpink, and possibly make the earpink more reddish? I also think you should make his body lighter. It's really hard to see the lineart, and he's just a dark gray anyway. 15:44, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 16:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think you filled in the line art by accident. Fix that and add shading-- 19:08, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it's my computer or not...but the color and the lineart are both the same color. Make sure that the color and the lineart are on separate layers

Yeah fix the lineart.

<font color="Green" font face="Papyrus" "background:gray; border:3px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Zor <font color="blue" font face="Papyrus" "background:black; border:1px dashed -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">th Highly   Explosive

Fix the line-art and darken the shading- Rubyblaze 15:53, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

lineart needs fixing Sunny  frost  15:41, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

This is great!!! but it is true, I think you filled in the line art. Maybe darken the shading more? <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 21:34, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Let the charart outlines show and add shading and highlights. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:19, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are not necessary. 03:21, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - His eye color seems very unreal. Make it a more natural shade.

(S) - OMS, you know Naruto!

What happened to the lineart? 20:51, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Whitestorm accidently filled the color in. 21:05, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

No, look closely. It's dark grey but so is the lineart. 21:14, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. That's what I said. 22:11, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you accidentally filled the lineart in. Fix it, please. And this might just be my computer, but I can't really see the colour of his eyes, so maybe lighten them a bit? 04:42, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

i agree with Wildheart7. the eye color should be a lighter blue, as you used midnight blue. Sunny frost  12:44, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The eye color matches his other images. It's fine. It looks unnoticeable and slightly darker due to the line-art. 14:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, the eye is fine (sorry to be impatient) but are you going to do anything about the lineart? -- 00:44, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Naruto! :D :D :D *loves that show* Anyways, fill the lineart back in. 14:23, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think we have all established that. :P Blur the ear-pink. 22:55, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I apologize for not working on this, as I have been busy with other aspects of this wiki. However, I am going to withdraw this, so please someone else feel free to start it. =) 00:57, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I can work on it if you like. 01:34, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Dang it. xD -clicks tongue because I can't snap- :P 02:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

So I take it this won't be withdrawn? -- 22:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Whitestorm17 is withdrawing this, and Icestorm will be working on it. Am I correct? <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 15:41, August 28, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I think I need Whitestorm's permission. 17:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

But Ice, you're still working on Shorty's warrior image. You won't be able to do this-- 18:04, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm thinking of withdrawing my Jag photo, maybe to do this one? But I don't really know, that Jag image has been up awhile and I don't want it to just go to waste. 20:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, don't withdraw your Jag image, it looks nice. And I agree, withdrawing stinks because all that time went to waste. I would, but I'm looking for a chance to put up Dodge's image and I don't want anybody to snatch it from me while Im doing this since I wouldn't be able to keep it reserved. Any volunteers? C'mon, anybody? 08:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I can take over, since I'm not doing any charart right now-- 17:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

On the charart list, it says your doing Dappletail. Did you finish it already? :P 19:59, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I've had it done for a while. But I can do this instead and hopefully reserve Dappletail again later.-- 20:09, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Shrewtooth (W) - For Approval
My second Charart, I didn't know an eye color so I did yellow, comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:05, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is uneven. Blur the highlights and shading a ton. 15:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? Or more?  ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀ GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:43, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing a bit. Make the ear pink smaller. Blur the shading and highlights-- 17:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I lightened it, but I didn't want to overdo it (so it would still look like a black cat), I made the earpink smaller, and I blurred the shading and highlights over again, better? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 19:03, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and blur it. Darken the shading and blur. If you want highlights you should lighten them-- 19:09, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten it a tad bit more.

<font color="Green" font face="Papyrus" "background:gray; border:3px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Zor <font color="blue" font face="Papyrus" "background:black; border:1px dashed -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">th Highly   Explosive  01:16, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still uneven. 18:23, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think blurring the earpink more will fix that. 13:55, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I decided highlights were too much work, so I took them out. I lightened it a bit (I think) blurred the earpink, and shading again. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:27, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred a lot. 14:29, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Do you want me to add highlights?

I agree with Frostheart. The shading needs to be blurred a lot. Maybe blur the earpink some more as well. And Totallytawnypelt? I think the highlights would be a nice touch! <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:59, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

D E F I N E N T L Y blur the shading. Sunny frost  01:12, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Totallytawnypelt, once I blurr the shading more you can add the highlights. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I seem to be doing a lot of blurring, and I'll do some more now just in case! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I just figured out how to make the blurr tool more effective! Yay! Here I did more blurring, hopefully it's enough. Comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Or did that not help? (Sorry but i can't get my cursor past your siggie) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:28, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I can't add highlights because there is a large part on the chest that is quite transeparent (I opened it up in photoshop to add the highlights), so just fill it in with the color of the shading...

Make the ear pink smaller. -- 20:28, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I tried to make it smaller but now it looks sorta weird, comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink like a triangle. 22:56, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I made it more triangular, is it good enough? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 23:51, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it's great. Add shading to the back-legs (like the legs behind the front legs not the legs next to the tail..) 03:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I think I understood what you meant, but if not let me know, comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:37, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just letting people know I'm going camping from August 28 to at most September 3, so don't decline the charart before I get back, then I can work on editing again. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:44, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I added the highlights, and filled in some transeparent parts of the lineart, but theirs some by the paw that I couldn't really fix... And I know that the shading is kind of blotchy, but you're going to have to fix it, because my blur tool is demented unless it doesn't have merged layers.....sorry if it's not good enough...;P 14:28, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - don't worry, the highlights are great! And I'll get to work on the shading. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:13, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blep (shoots self) I meant highlights, because I made the highlights blotchy and couldn't blur them. I'm so sorry if this means you'll have to fix it up a bit, but I'm starting to get crazy.... ;P 18:24, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

That's okay, I hadn't started on the shading, so it should be okay. (I'm what is called a procrastinator) =) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 18:54, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink still looks funny to me, it's much much darker in the middle to me. 19:27, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Is this better? I also darkened the eyes becasue they looked unnaturally bright, comments?  ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 19:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I'm bad at using highlights! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 20:04, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

(-_-Ugh, I meant to say bold, and apparently i'm bad at typing also!) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 20:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink-- 23:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

This is looking nice! Although, I agree with Nightshine, you should blur the ear pink. Also, blur the shading and add some shading to the face. 03:37, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the legs behind the front legs..and not the back legs next to the tail. xD 20:00, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Fallowfern (KP)-For approval
YEY fourth char art i'm actually proud of this one :) Comments? Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  15:30, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticable. 15:48, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights in her eyes are facing the same way. It makes her look cross-eyed. Good job, though! 20:41, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED fixed :3 anything else you find that needs fixing? Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  22:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight on her left eye is lower than the one on her right eye; move it up a pixel. 07:37, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED sorry it took a while my internet hasnt been working properly:( how is it now? Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  21:11, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oo! You should be proud of this. The collar looks a little strange though. The shading looks like it's divided in half. You know what I mean? 23:09, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

oh! i know what you mean... i think lol are you seeing the stripes? if you want i can remove them :) Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  00:50, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Don't remove the stripes! They add such a nice touch to kittypet's collars. Maybe thicken them, and this is just me, but I think you should lighten the entire collar. And maybe you could lighten the nose just a tad. Those don't matter to much, though. For my real comment: blur the highlights. That sucks about your internet, because this is a really nice image (much better than my Fallowfern XD) and you wouldn't want it to get declined D: 05:43, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED thanks Mosspool anyways i lightened the nose and when i tried to make the stripes on the collar thicker it just made them more blue but I like them better this way XD and I blurred the highlights Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  12:39, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! I don't know if it is my computer, but maybe make the nose a little pinker? Just by a liiiiiiittle bit. And I love your collar! <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:56, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Brown cats usually have brown noses according to Goldenpaw, maker of her queen image. (She has a brown nose there, so she has one here, too.) 06:49, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should make her left eye a little more too the left, she looks cross-eyed. 06:55, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think the collar looks like two colors. Or its like REALLY shiny. xD Are you allowed to put stripes and dots on collars? And names? That'd be cool. :P 22:56, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED I re-did the eyes and yes you can put stripes on the collar (as i have clearly done) XD Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  23:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for letting me know that Mosspool! Fallowfern is looking pretty good right now! <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 23:50, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

'Kay I'm no expert on this, but it seems to me that because her pelt is pretty light, she would have a pink nose, as opposed to a brown one. Not like, pale pink, but maybe a pinkish-brown? So maybe make the nose a bit pinker? I dunno, what does everybody else think? -- 05:18, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

OOOH DURH **facepalm** This conversation has already happened. -- 05:28, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Spread the highlights a bit more. It makes a 'C' :P 19:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED fixed highlights :3 Mossy  I fight to live I live to fight!  22:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. Add shading to the collar-- 01:24, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Frostheart, I'm pretty sure you're allowed to put stripes etc. on collars because I did on my Fernpelt image. . . and that was approved a while ago. :/ As for the image, blur the highlights a bit more. Also, I think for the collar stripes just make them a light green so they match collar more. This image looks so nice, Mossy. I'm sure it won't be long before it's approved :D 09:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Mosspool, I know you are allowed to put stripes in the collar. 20:09, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ohh derp I didn't see that she answered you. . . sorry. 21:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED i fixed the ear pink and added more shading to the collar and i blurred the highlights as much as possible (i changed my siggie btw like it? XD)<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  22:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink more-- 17:40, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, define the ear-pink. This is great. :) 20:02, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sagepaw (W) - For Approval
Comments? 15:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a ton. 15:36, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent! :) Make the ear pink more noticiable.

Re-Uploaded. 15:56, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight on the shoulder could still use some blurring. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 16:11, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 16:21, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

We never saw him as a warrior. Should he still have a warrior charart?-- 17:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It was confirmed in the latest chat that he is a warrior, but Vicky didn't remember what his name was. 17:36, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! Then I guess this is fine. Darken the ear pink and blur the highlights. Darken the shading on the haunch and forearms-- 17:45, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 18:15, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the shading and highlights.-- 18:22, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. The shading was bugging me, so I redid it. 18:42, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, blur the shading and highlights. Darken the ear pink-- 19:10, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I know the whole "blur the highlights" thing must be bugging you, and I'm sorry. It's bugging me too, but I just can't seem to get it to work. Maybe this is better? 21:05, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded again. I tried blurring them more :S 22:37, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Try to blur it more again. xD 02:30, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 11:56, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * There's some blurred lineart on his back and the blurring is still blotchy :/--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:30, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 00:37, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Blur the head highlight. 17:28, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 17:38, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

i think it looks great :D Sunny  frost  14:26, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Oblivion! This looks great! Maybe just blur the highlight on his haunch just a bit! <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:53, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Re-Uploaded. 12:07, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on his fore-arm and the middle highlight(forgetting cat parts. Dx) 15:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

His shoulder? xD 16:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 17:04, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think Frost meant the arm. Theres a small lighter spot that needs a touch more blurring. 17:21, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

You mean the foreleg, right? On the right (our right) foreleg, there's a small highlight that needs to be blurred just a little more. 19:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Okay, I got it now :D 19:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights on the tail. 20:20, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Blurred the highlights and darkened the shading on the tail. 20:26, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. Just blur the body highlight and the tail highlight a tad more and I think he'll be ready. :) 21:06, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and the ear-pink. 22:57, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 23:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the highlight between the ear and eye. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:51, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 02:13, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm still having a problem with the middle highlight. To me, it's a circle. xP Could you blur it or make it fatter? xD 19:30, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think your request is a little vague, Frostheart. Please explain. 21:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Like it's just one circle, could you blur it or spread it out a bit? :P By spread out I mean like...an irregular oval? 23:03, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading along the body, and to me the highlights look fine. -- 04:31, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I agree, Dawny. I think that if I do anything else with the highlights, it'll just mess them up. They look fine to me. Darkened the shading. 15:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight and shading on the head and tail-- 17:26, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 17:34, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, the blurring tool sure is being mean to you. Blur the highlights some more. 21:45, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Indeed it is D: I think the haunch highlight looks fine right now, not so sure about the shoulder... 21:53, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the tail shading thinner and blur it. Blur the bottom of the shoulder haunch a bit more. The shading on the face still needs blurring-- 17:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The head highlight looks kind of weird. Like..it's a straight line? :P 20:03, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Skipper (Ro)-For Approval
Here's Skipper. I didn't know what his eye color was, so I made a lucky guess. It's my first charart, so I hope you like it! Mist fire  16:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the shading, it looks pretty good! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 16:38, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and blur the white transition. Darken the shading a bit and blur it well-- 17:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it much more. Make the ear-pink more noticeable. 19:39, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened the shading and tried to blur it, as you can see. Personally, I think this one's worse. Darkened ear pink, et cetra. Mist fire  16:50, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Now there are three different shades of orange on him, it just looks kind of strange. 18:26, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The shading kind of looks like it's layered. Blur it as much as you can =) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 18:41, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is too small and bright. The line-art is blurred a bit on his legs and near the tail. 02:31, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and add highlights to the flank, shoulder, and face. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 05:05, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. 18:17, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

What Frostheart said. Anyways, blur the shading and add somre more near the tail and on the tail. 17:27, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. This ok?

Darken the ear pink, blur the shading a lot. Blur the white transition. Remember to sign-- 03:51, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred line art on the base of his tail. 13:32, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

it will look perfect to me if you just blur the shading and blur where the orange meets the white. Sunny frost  13:34, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. And if you want, add just some more highlights on his haunch. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:52, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Reuploaded. I made the earpink a lot darker, and Blurred orange/white section. I seriously don't think I can blur shading much more, folks. Mist fire  15:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

If you can't blur it more, then make the darker part lighter, or the light part darker. :P 19:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Then smudge it, then blur. That should work. Darken the ear pink, it blends in with the pelt color, making it hard to be visible. 21:03, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the orange-white transitioning. 22:03, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 03:11, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The nose-pink looks orange to me. 19:30, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more of a reddish color. 20:56, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Line-art is blurred a tiny bit near the tail, the back leg area, and blur the orange transition towards the head. 20:06, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfur (E) - For Approval
Comments? 16:42, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, make the ear pink bigger-- 17:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is 1 over the limit..... I think. The limit is 35 correct and this is number 36 for approval Dusksong 18:57, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

There is an image being withdrawn so this is fine.-- 19:04, August 21, 2010 (UTC).

The highlights are too bright and define the ear-pink. 19:39, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlights are fine but they need blurring. 21:54, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be much bigger. 18:28, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. 19:28, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more triangular. 02:32, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Done. 16:16, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. There's not much that needs to be improved, though the muzzle highlight could use a bit more blurring. 17:23, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

That's because he has a graying muzzle. 17:42, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger-- 02:31, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * facepalm* FAIL. Anyways, there's nothing wrong with this as far as I see. 19:35, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Any better? 18:02, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's looking good. Perhaps blur the shading on the bottom of the haunch just a tiny bit. -- 00:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think maybe blur the earpink just a little more, but otherwise, it looks wonderful! <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:50, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

agree, this is excellent! Sunny frost  13:59, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Anything else? 17:11, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpen the end of the ear-pink. 22:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? 17:42, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ends are really flat, like a square. 17:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: It won't get any pointier. 18:48, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Comments before approval?-- 17:38, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Petalnose (W)-For approval
My first Charart! I know the shading is really bad XD but I really want to approve it. So Comments? Dusksong 14:16, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading 14:22, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. Possibly make highlights lighter. 16:18, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is too dark. Blur it, and add shading to the paws, top of the tail, chest and stomach, muzzle and forhead. Blur the ear pink and blur the highlights. Other than that, this is lovely. 17:22, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

agree with icestorm. blur the shading Sunny  frost  21:50, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Really blur shading. add highlights to forehead, chest, & fronts of legs. Mist fire  22:36, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, especially the spot on her forehead. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:49, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I also agree with Icestorm that you need to add shading to the stomach, paws, muzzle and tail. You could also afford to add some more to thr haunch, and then blur it all. 21:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Add shading to the front hind paw. 23:04, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur it. 03:07, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad, then it looks amazing! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:46, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, lighten it, and blur it a ton. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  21:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Added shading to the front hind paw, lightened the shading, and blurred the shading Dusksong   Hear the song of dusk  17:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The shoulder highlight looks a little low, try moving it up a little. 18:06, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading more. The back-back paw looks really dark. 20:07, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Snooky (A) - For approval
for some reason i don't like how it turned out...anyway, comments? Sunny frost  21:43, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks un-natural on my computer its pink-purple colour. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 21:56, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is too bright. Add more spots and blur them a bunch. The line-art is blurred at the fore-arms, tail, ear, haunch, and more places if you can find them. Add an eye color. 21:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I added more spots, made the ear pink less bright, added eye color, and sharpened the line-art. *whew* Sunny  frost  00:18, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur shading, blur earpink and make it smaller. There is blurred colour out of the line art on the forearms, tail, haunch, and ear. Change eye color to a darker, not so bright, green. 00:28, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

As said by Oblivion, there's some blurd lineart. Also, it looks like you may have used pure black as opposed to dark gray for the spots, and thicken the shading and maybe add some highlights. (I'm aware of the fact that they're optional, but they really help an image, especially patched cats) 05:37, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this any better?? Sunny frost  12:40, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is still way too bright. Teh tail looks gray to me.I personally think you should remove the giant spot on the leg and replace it with smaller ones. 14:27, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Try to make his spots match his kitty-pet one and the line-art is still heavily blurred near the ear, chest, tail, and fore-arms. I forgot stuff. :P 15:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

To me, the earpink is purple and the main white part is pale pink.

The earpink looks fine to me, but I agree with Totallytawnypelt, the main white part of his fur looks pale pink-y 20:09, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I didn't like what it was becoming so I redid it. But i still have the old one saved. Sunny frost  00:18, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the spots a little more. And maybe add some spots on his right front leg. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:47, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

'''Reuploaded. ''' Whoops sorry, nvm. i'll upload it tomorrow. Sunny frost  01:04, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten ear pink, make the spots more...natrual and blur them more. Blur the ear pink. 03:08, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. (Can someone delete Snookpaw_(A).png?) Sunny  frost  12:39, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

It should be a png file and lighten the spots some. They look black rather than really dark gray. 13:18, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. (whoops nvm then) Sunny  frost'''  13:30, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

It might just be my comp...but darken the ear pink, it looks to bright

Reuploaded. Whatever you guys say, I trust. Sunny frost  17:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The black patches are still too dark. 17:23, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink needs to be a pale pink color. 19:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Theres lots of blurred line-art on the back. Also, the patches need to be lightend, as they are completly black, and blurred. 20:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, lighten the spots and make them a bit rounder. Make the ear pink pink, it's basically purple. Blur the shading. 21:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunny  frost  21:18, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still purple. Darken the white transistion. 21:22, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Looking at his kittypet image that ear shouldn't be black. Try to base the markings from this --> 21:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. closer? Sunny frost  22:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the eye color more noticeable. 23:04, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried my best. Great StarClan, why do apprentices have such small eyes?! Sunny frost  01:04, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches a bunch -- 04:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 17:49, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * huff huff* Reuploaded. Sunny  frost  17:19, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded.  Sunny frost  18:12, August 27, 2010 (UTC)'''

Lighten and blur the black patches. Make the ear pink more pale, and blur some more. Other then that, its coming along pretty good :) -- 18:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded x2.  Sunny frost'''  00:57, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shade of pink you chose for the earpink is a bit odd. Choose something a bit less hot pink. Maybe take the color from his kittypet image. 01:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think its way light, but eh. Sunny frost  01:38, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

The patches should be very dark gray instead of pure black, as it is right now. Blur and add some more shading to the haunch,chest, and forelegs. Shrink the ear pink a bit. -- 04:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

they are dark gray. But anywayz, Reuploaded. Sunny frost  12:52, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my apologizes, it must just be my monitor :\. Rename the file: Snooky.apprentice.png -- 00:58, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

(How do you rename? reply on my talk page plz) Sunny  frost  13:24, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Harveymoon (KP) - For approval
Well here he is! I don't think he's to bad but then he's my first charart uploaded on here. Comments but nothing rude or too mean please! <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:03, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Remove the earpink from his left our right ear and blur the shading more. Nice job. 22:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Remove the ear-pink on the right and blur it. Make the shading a bit more noticeable. 22:09, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded~ Better? His shading was a bit picky but I made it more noticeable. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:27, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 22:48, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Make the warpink smaller. Then blur it. 23:04, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Moonflight. Also, blur the shading and add more shading top the top of the shading and back legs. His eyes are also a bit bright, but that probably doesn't matter too much. 05:35, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - I had to redo his body so I could do the shading on it. Its blurred as much as I can without damaging the lineart and earpink is smaller I didn't change the colour of his eyes because they look fine to me. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 21:43, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading much much more and make the ear-pink like a triangle. 00:32, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot more. You can go over the line art, or maybe shrink the size of the blur tool. Add some shading right underneath his collar. A good example right now I think would help you is Velvet (underneath). But you don't have to listen to me because I'm only an apprentice. Ha ha =D. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:44, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Tansy, I think you may have sharpened the shading instead of blurring it, because it was a lot more blurred before. :P Oh well, everyone makes mistakes. If you use pixlr, the blur is the tear drop. If you use GIMP, just make sure the blur/shapren tool is set to blur, not sharpen. 03:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Put the blur tool on 100 and blur the shading as much as you can. 11:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur. Add shading to the paws and arm, and face. Blur the ear pink. 18:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 19:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-done - Thickened and blurred on 100. Don't worry Willowheart I listened <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:02, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs serious blurring, and make the ear pink more triangular. 22:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. You need to blur the shading a whole bunch so it looks more natural. Sunny frost  22:16, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I changed the section title. Remember it is usually KP when submitting a kittypet. As for the image, it's too dark, he looks like a pale gray cat, lighten it, and use a less concentrated brush for the highlights. =) 22:30, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Blurred a lot and I had to re-do the body so I hope he's ok for now because I'll be going off soon also earpink was blurred as well.<font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:38, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink like a triangle. The shading seems blotchy and uneven now. 23:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs more blurring. 13:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the shading and the shading on the right forearm (the forearm we can see) looks uneven, try to fix it up, I can't really explain how it looks.... 14:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

You still really need to blur the shading. And there is some blurred lineart by his right ear. Sunny frost  17:25, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton. His head is blurred and a little bit where the fore-arm steps out. 17:50, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks square'ish (lol) make it more triangular. -- 04:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dawny don't worry I understood the earpink did look more like a rectangle. Anyway I'm going on holiday from tomorrow till Friday so I won't be able to update him for a while but when I get back I'll be right on the case. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 21:46, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I changed the section title again, remember it's KP for kittypet. And center the ear pink. 22:50, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur it, but well done! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 01:36, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Change the ear-pink to the angle of the line-art. 01:41, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Velvet - For Approval


Mmm. Constructments? -- 22:18, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken the shading on her back a little bit. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:30, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading on the back is great.There's nothing I can say. :D 22:33, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, make this more silvery, right now it looks pale gray. Darken the ear pink a bit more and blur it-- 22:53, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks fine. This is lovely, Bramble, I can't find anything wrong with it other than the above comments. 00:26, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

She looks pale gray, not silver. And may I suggest more highlights, because I've found thye help make silver cats look. . . well, more silvery. (That may sound strange XD) Other than that, this looks great! 05:33, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make her more 'silvery' 10:33, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little more, and maybe add some more highlights (like on the tail?) <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

lol 'silvery' Anyways, I'd just say to....um...did I mention that this was AMAZING!!!

The shading makes it seems 'silvery' to me. But darken it a little bit. 19:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

There's an tiny speck of blurred lineart up by the ear pink. You can't really see it, though. 21:32, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I see it now that you mention it. xD Darken the shading on his back. 23:06, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps add some highlights because she looks kinda shadowy. That's just my opinion, though. -- 04:18, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Forestheart, Velvet is a girl. And, yeah, add some highlights on the head, back, and possibly tail. Sunny frost  17:38, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, Sunnyfrost. Highlights are optional, and I personally prefer this deep look. 17:51, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just my opinion -- 05:44, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the dark shading makes it look 'silvery' xp 01:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

If you ask me, the dark shading just makes it look. . . gray. 02:15, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Silver is a shade of gray. I think the pelt color is fine. 14:48, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

It's a very dull shade of gray, silver is brighter. Elorisa -sama  15:18, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink line-art is blurred a tiny-bit. 20:10, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Percy (R)-For Approval
I withdrew my other one so... here's Percy! I actually kinda like this one xD. Comments? --- 11:02, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hm...I've never seen Percy as a character before. The ear pink is too big and kinda a odd shape. 12:19, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this over the limit? There can only be 35 up for approval and this is the 36th. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 13:06, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, Nettlsplash is being withdrawn, so this is fine. Anyway, fix up the earpink. 13:15, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I didn't see that. XD But yeah I agree with Beautiful Oblivion and Silverdapple! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 13:28, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

i think you should make the earpink smaller. but im just an apprentice so idk. Sunny frost  13:29, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is too big. Blur the stripes more. 14:24, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Shrink the ear pink so its not as big as we think, then blur the stripes on the fur

ha ha I got that from Zorth ;P (i made up the las part) and now this means I can't do Percy when Rockshade gets approved :( (DON'T WITHDRAW THOUGH!! THIS IS REALLY GOOD!)

Reuploaded Thanks, Tawny!! And, sorry, I didn't know you were planning to do his image too. xD Anyways, I blurred the stripes and fixed the ear pink. What else? --- 20:17, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add some more shading? I'm an apprentice as well... <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

lol willow, i second that last part. but i think it looks great, me being an apprentice :P Sunny  frost  01:10, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried adding some more shading, but it didn't go so well. I couldn't blur it because it made the stripes unevenly blurred xD. I just added some to the head. Anything else? --- 01:19, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes and darken the entire thing just a bit. 02:03, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added more stripes and darkened the whole thing. Anything else? --- 10:38, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe blur it a bit more? 15:31, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

lol its okay Cherr Cherr (mah new nickname for you!!O.O) anyways, I'd just say to blur and center the earpink :P

Reuploaded Lol, Tawny! Thanks for the new name :P Anyways, I blurred the earpink and centered it. Anything else? --- 20:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes on the belly and make the ear-pink like a triangle. 23:06, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I believe you meant the chest. The stomach has enough stripes. 01:49, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I mean the front part of it. 04:30, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Well... I just added some stripes to the chest and I made the earpink like a triangle. Anything else? --- 11:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. -- 18:23, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

This is just me experimenting, but try making the stripes reach down farther. Don't save it if you don't like it, but it could give it a more...tabby effect. 18:33, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I centered the ear pink, but for the stripes, I tried to do that but, it made the stripes meet each other so I just left it with the short stripes. Anything else? --- 11:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add some stripes to the paws. 18:00, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added stripes to the paws. What else? --- 01:05, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Add stripes to the back legs. 01:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yup add stripes to the back and front right legs other than that Nice!! ShadowandBlue 13:53, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added stripes to the back and front right legs. Anything else? 15:26, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art is blurred a lot in various places and blur the highlights. 20:12, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (A) - For Approval


MY FIRST CHARART!!!! =D

Elorisa has yet to decide, which means so have I. The striped style or the patched tabby style? The patched tabby style looks more like Elorisa's, but I like the regularly-striped one better. Even though it doesn't look very much like Elorisa's. Anyways, comments? =D 02:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink needs to be bigger. The patched one looks really blotchy to me. Do the striped one more like the Creekfeather one up for approval. :P 02:42, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Will do. But even though the second one is prettier, it doesn't really look like Elorisa's and I couldn't get the patched tabby one to look... well.. patched-tabby-ish lol ... Argh... -- 02:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed earpink -- 03:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I like the patched tabby. Blurr the stripes on the striped one a bit. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  03:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

All of them? Or certain ones? Specific, please =) -- 04:59, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the stripes a little bit. Problem, though. I use GIMP, and, unfortunately when I saved this as a .png (because the wiki can't upload .xcf s) I accidentally forgot to save it as a .xcf as well, so now my little flashing line around the lineart is gone and I can blur the lineart where I couldn't before. So I'm having issues working on it without blurring or drawing on the lineart. Does anybody have suggestions? -- 05:17, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really help with that. I just save it on png on Gimp and it's fine. As for the image, make the striped one more like zigzags unless you like it this way. Blur the ear-pink a bit more. 15:30, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Second one. Blur the stripes there and lighten it. On the first one, darken the patches. 18:31, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the patched one. 23:08, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I like how the patched one looks, but the stripes one needs to lightened. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  00:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Patched: thickened shading, added a few patches, blurred earpink. Striped: dodged whole image with a brush on 10% exposure, fixed lineart issue (THANK YOU ICEHEART), blurred earpink. Better? -- 01:16, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Both images: darken the head shading, it's not visible. 01:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Both images: Darken the ear pink. Patched one: blur it more. 02:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

What should I blur? The earpink? -- 03:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

If you decide on the regularly striped one, I'd say blur the stripes, and add more striping to the legs, face and tail. 21:50, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

'Kay, I'll add more stripes to the legs, but the tail I tried to copy from the warrior pic, which doesn't have as many stripes, I think, and could you give me some tips on how to stripe the face? I tried when I was first making it, but it just looked stupid, so I took them off -- 05:39, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Elorisa has decided on the patched one 13:19, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes she has. So, define the stripes, as I said before, it looks blotchy--ish. xD 20:10, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Harverymoon (W) - For Approval
Life has been very. . . hard for me lately, so I haven't been able to contribute. But I realized making charart made me feel much better! XD So here is the kitty-warrior. I don't do white cats well. 22:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this the 36th? Unless one is withdrawed or declined. 22:34, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Mousetalon, this is the 36th image. It will probably have to be declined. Sorry! 23:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Mouse. This is over the limit. You can put it back up when it goes down-- 23:29, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh, I'm so clueless. Must be my old glasses. I need my new ones back. 23:43, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is fine now, Crowfeather is being withdrawn. Blur the shading, thicken the tail shading, darken shading on haunch and forearm.-- 01:31, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken the haunch shading. 01:46, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Umm... shouldn't the section be renamed as - For Approval instead of - Declined? As for the image, just darken the shading and make the ear pink more reddish. 02:13, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I changed it. Make the earpink a tiny bit bigger at the top of his ear. 02:46, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

What happened to your glasses, Mouse? And, this is odd, and might just be me, but I see a white "V" in the pale gray shading at the scruff of his neck. If this is just me, disregard, but if someone else sees it, blur it XD -- 04:35, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

You're right, Wildheart, when I look at it at a certain angle it looks like there's a white V in the neck shading. Apart from that, the eye looks a little bright to me, and the ear pink could afford being a teeny bit bigger. And maybe blur the tail shading.

I'm not sure if this is just your style, but my computer sees it kind of...scratchy I could say. I've noticed this with Red, so I'm assuming it's your style, but anyways, blur the shading underneath the head. 14:16, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink a tad. -- 04:50, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Also darken the chest shading. 21:49, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the tail. 01:43, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

On his KP image, his eyes are green. On this one, they're blue. Decisions, decisions. 06:49, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Egg (A)- for Approval
I think it came out horrible, but comments? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 19:20, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The torn ear looks like the line-art is...gray or faded? :P 19:34, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry about that! =P River pelt Deputy of StormClan 19:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

It's still faded and gray/whiteish. The tail highlight is really bright. 20:15, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

the torn ear is still gray/faded. Sunny frost  20:17, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

I have a slight problem...
Grrr my stupid computer will NOT save any of my drawings and junk on pixlr.com. I can only make charcats on my dads but I only seem to see him every other week....I really want to stay on PCA. What can I do? Rubyblaze 16:01, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Can you explain more? 16:02, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

What I mean is I won't be able to fix my charats when I put them up for approval. It would be a while before I could get on and fix them up because I can't edit them at my mom's. Rubyblaze 17:34, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, maybe make them as perfect as you can the first time? Or, you could use GIMP 18:31, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well, why can't you edit? :P What happens? 20:00, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

If you can't re-save the image or something like that, control click the photo, then click it again to get it to full size. Right click and press "copy image url" or copy-paste the url at the top. Go to pixlr or gimp, and click "open file in location" 20:29, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

It won't save ANYTHING. Not even my other non-warriors drawings. Rubyblaze 14:22, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Then call a person who's knows a lot about computers. For now, you can download another program I guess. 19:32, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

It could be a problem with your computer. For now, you could try using Gimp. 16:17, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think she's saying she can't save ANYTHING. Hire a computer person? 23:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hi guys, school got in so, I was kinda busy, anyways I will have to talk to my mom about using GIMP (She hates it when i download things she dosen't want me to). I am at my Dads but its kinda too late to work on a charcat right now. Rubyblaze 03:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

If it can't save anything, even on Gimp, then you should go to the company's website (the company of your computer) and click their customer support section. Then search to see if they have a repair service. 19:12, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I suppose you are right. Is your computer old? 02:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

No. My mom's computer is Windows 7! I can save images on my dad's but I hardly can make them. I don't know if I am aloud to download GIMP I will have to ask. Rubyblaze 18:04, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Windows 7 is just the OS (operating system). What company made your computer? Some of the most common ones are Sony, HP, Apple, etc. 18:41, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reminder
Just a reminder for all the new or uninformed users; the term 'comments before approval' or 'CBA', is a means of asking if there is anything else needed on the image that the lead may have missed when putting up the 24 hours. This would literally translate comments into constructive criticism. Posting to say "This is perfect! I see nothing wrong!" is inappropriate to put after a 24 hour call. If you have nothing of value to say about the image that needs improvement, say nothing at all. -- 02:46, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Notification
Hey everyone. Our beloved deputy Sandy has stepped down from her position due to real life concerns. We all honor and appreciate all she did during her time as deputy. =) I have selected one of our members to fill the deputy position. Oblivion is devoted to what she does and very passionate, and though new, I believe she will be able to fulfill her duties well. She has a natural knack for art, and combining that with her sensibility, she is well-suited for the deputy position. Please leave congratulations and comments for our new deputy, as well as appreciative comments for our former one. =) Thank you, 04:02, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Congratz Oblivion! ^.^ And thanks Sandy for serving us. You were awesome. Hehe. :D 04:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, we're sad to see you go, Sandy. But I know Oblivion will do a good job. Congrats on your new position! =) -- 04:57, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I know I'm also sad to see Sandy go, and I hope I can be half as good of a deputy as she was. :) 05:04, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Congrats Oblivion! 11:25, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I was never involved (or much interested, I must admit) in PCA, but I checked the intense discussions from time to time, and all those people able to coordinate things here have my utmost respect. Managing a project so active for such a long period, with all its pressure, problems and demands, while making dozens of amazing chararts and being involved in other projects as well, certainly requires great persons who are utmost devoted to the wiki. Thanks Sandy for all your work and dedication, and good luck to Oblivion in her new task. 11:53, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Congrats Oblivion!!!!!! (no spam intended) Sunny  frost  13:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations Oblivion, again :D. I am also sad to see Sandy go, she was a awesome deputy. 14:21, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

O.O I'm as shocked as you, Oblivion! Congratulations!!!! It's gonna be weird without Sandy, but Oblivion has filled the gap in my heart (sobs heart out)

Congratulations Oblivion! I believe that Oblivion will do a fantastic job in Sandy's place. I am also sad to see Sandy go, as she did a great job as deputy of PCA. Thank you, Sandy, for being an awesome deputy of PCA, and congratulations, Oblivion! 18:45, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Congrats, Oblivion! I'll miss you Sandy! 19:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations, Oblivion! You'll do great. Bye, Sandy, I'll miss you too. You've been a great deputy. Holly dapple  20:50, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think Sandy is leaving the PCA. Because I'm getting that from all these messages. o_o xD 23:10, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Congrats Oblivion! I'm sure you'll make a great deputy. :) Sandy was definitely a great deputy, and I honor everything she did. Thanks for everything, Sandy, and I hope everything works out okay! Good luck! 02:42, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

No, Sandy's not leaving, she's still listed as a warrior. But anyways, Oblivion will be the greatest deputy and will follow in Sandy's footsteps to being one of the greatest deputy's of all times (wink wink) ;) 14:19, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Congrats Oblivion! Darkhallows... Mew? 01:41, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sandy- you were a great inspiration as deputy, and thank you for the wonderful job you've done with the project. Congrats to Oblivion, you've achieved the dream- becoming deputy at such an early time! Congrats! =) I wish you luck and you have the support of everyone I'm sure. 02:45, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

You were a wonderful deputy, Sandy. Thanks for everything you've done for the project. And, congratulations, Oblivion. You'll be a great deputy. Good luck! --- 11:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I want to comment again because I feel that my last message was a little short. First of all, thank you Sandy, for leading us (deputying us? :P) for a long time with so much respect and kindness. And Oblivion, I hope you well and I know you are going to make a wonderful deputy. 02:43, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Join?
Hi, I'm Nightflower! Can I join this project? I've made many charats in my free time, and I want to put them to use! Let me know! 75.37.180.248 04:29, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Err, you need an account to join the project. Unless you're the user NightflowerOfThunderClan and you forgot to log on. . . XD If not, feel free to make an account and join the project! 04:34, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Silly me! I didn't notice until now! Yes, I am NightflowerOfThunderClan! I would like to join, please. 04:44, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm sure a senior warrior/the deputy/leader will add you in soon! 10:31, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. Thanks for your interest in joining! 23:11, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Nightflower! You can reserve a charart on this page and some apprentice tutorials can be found here.-- 17:50, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Join Request
Hi, I'm LightMoon. I put in a request to join, but for some reason I can't find it on the page now. But I am still interested in joining the project! 20:00, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

You were accepted, and then the section was archived. See it here. 20:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-join
I have found time again to come on so may i re join and how many more images do i need approved till i become a warrior? (Goes off to change her siggie for siggie re-form  Birdstar  You infected me with mildew? 14:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

To be a warrior, you need to have 5 approved chararts. I'd add you in, but I'm not even near a senior warrior (I've only had 1 approved charart and I'm working on my seconth) 18:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, Birdpaw. I'll add you in now. Welcome back. 15:27, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

LOL wow I said seventh I meant second. 14:23, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blanks?
I've known that on the main page that it says to not use the blanks on other websites, but does that mean use the BLANKS blanks and call them yours, or can you colour them in like you would for a charart, post it on your website, and say you got the blanks from warrior's wiki? I was just curious.....

One more thing that has to do with blanks. We know that we have Kittypet, Longer, and Rogue blanks for the ADULT cats. Should we make those sort of blanks for the KITS? Like when scourge was a kittypet as a kit? And how Moss's kits in the Graystripe's Adventure series were loners at birth? 18:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter which one it is. Do not color it in and do stuff on it and post an a website, and do not use the blanks in general. And I don't really think so, if a kit is a kit, it's a kit. :P 19:33, August 27, 2010

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I don't know i think it would be a good idea to have more blanks. There's a lot of people on this project it would give us more chararts to do...   <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt     <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  20:04, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

With the upcoming series and the ending of Omen of the Stars, I think we should have plenty for awhile. 21:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Iceheart what do you mean by more blanks? We don't need any new blanks. A loner's kit will look no different than a clan kit and it's not that hard to add a collar to the blank to make a kittypet kit. Same goes for queens. 21:52, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I know, it's just that if we did have different blanks for different kits, there would be more pictures to go around. but i guess your right about the new series and stuff. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  22:37, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Iceheart. Somebody has to draw them and make them look good, but even with the new series, with the amount of people on this project, there aren't a lot of pictures to go around, and people scramble to get the new warrior pics or new apprentice pics every time a new books comes out. Despite the amount of work, I think it's a good idea. -- 06:13, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

But it's not needed, and there would be a lot of confusion. And then several pixels would need to be redone, i.e. Minty's kits and so forth. 13:17, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

In the end more blanks just means more blanks. It's not really worth it to make different blanks for different kits because 1. a kit is a kit 2. there aren't enough kits that are say kittypets or loners to say they need a blank to themselves and 3. like Mouse said images would need to be redone. It's just not a good idea to me. It's more work than it's worth. 14:31, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Like I stated before, with new books, there should be a few more. And once we get all the needed chararts for awhile, we can have another tweek week that maybe apprentices could join in, making the old chararts better. More kit blanks aren't needed, the kit blanks we have are just labeled kits. It wouldn't make a difference if it was a rogue kit, and just put a collar around it to make it a kitty-pet kit blank. 15:46, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

There is no female Healer blanks Rainear   Let the rain guide you  17:13, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but we could pretty much make them by putting eyelashes on them and maybe shrinking them. I did that with it. 18:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

There are none because there are no female healers. 22:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

That is true. 01:44, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

We don't need more blanks, but it would be great if loner kits could have maybe a shrinked version of a full-grown loner or rogue. However, Omen of the stars will probally add some dark-forest cats that can be avalible for Chararts. 12:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Could i join?
Could i plz join--Sandshadow 03:33, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sure! A lead or senior warrior will add you in A.S.A.P. :) -- 04:54, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you as an apprentice. Welcome to the project Sandshadow! You can reserve a charart on this page and some apprentice tutorials can be found here.-- 17:49, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

How to Reserve a Charart
How do you reserve a charart to color in? I thought I found the link before, but now I can't find it. -.- 14:37, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Go to the main PCA page. It should be there, just scroll down a bit. 14:49, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Didn't find it... 15:44, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

The main Project Charart page is here. Scroll down until you see a big blue rectangle, you can edit that to reserve a charart-- 17:51, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lightmoon, go to the top of the page and click the button that says project page, that's the page. To go back to this page click the discussion button beside it. 18:09, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, so you just find a missing charart and put your name and its name in the box? Ok, I see now. Ty. xD 19:02, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make sure it is not already reserved by pressing control f. 02:45, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

or F3 Sunny  frost  13:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

This has been cleared up, she was just not listed on the project page. I've fixed it so she's added, and hope this clears up some confusion. 16:58, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Um, Question..?
I want to know if I can do Molepaw's charart. It doesn't say on his page exactly what color he was, but I'm pretty sure it said somewhere about him being brown. (I'll have to check that later) Because, at the moment, he doesn't have one and I've been waiting for a chance to post a charart of mine. :\ Echofall  Fate is in your paws 15:13, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source, then first of all, you have to put it on his page. Then, you can reserve an image. But I don't recall any books saying anything about what he looked like. 15:39, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

If you can find it, then make him brown. But Molepaw does sound like a tom who would be brown. :P 15:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think Molepaw had an image at one point but it was taken down because no one could find a reference for him being brown. I might be remembering wrong though. 20:44, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I could have sworn in Sunset it said he was gray.... 16:59, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

We shouldn't do a CharArt for him until we find a reliable source that says his fur color. ChelseaFC Future winners of BPL 10/11! 17:09, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Question...
Can I do Redstar (W) even if he was never featured as a warrior? After all, every leader had to have been a warrior at some point. 19:45, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Redstar has to be seen as a warrior if you want to do him, I'm not sure if he has, though. 20:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

No, because we only do chararts of the cats that have been seen in that rank. Redstar has never been seen as a warrior. Sorry! 20:50, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ok. I'll keep looking then! 21:18, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfall has a list of chararts needed to be done. 01:09, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Here is the list. 18:31, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The links! Where are the links?
What happened to the links on the main page that listed the characters that needed art?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  11:30, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

To say so, I don't know. I just go to Nightfall's page and click on her charart section. :P 16:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Here's the link to Nightfall's. 18:32, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Question
I withdraw my Yellowfang (MCA) image so can I do an alternate image for Kestrelflight because he was discribed as a mottled gray tom in the Fading Echoes allegiances. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  13:48, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll withdraw it for you.-- 18:43, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Can I join?
Hi I'm Kittypet1, and I'd like to join. I don't know if it's needed, but I made a sample. I would really love to be in PCA. 13:52, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Samples are not needed but we will be more then happy to add you in wich a lead will do soon :)<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  14:45, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Leaving
Hey everyone, this is Tawny. I'm just here to say that I'm leaving PCA for a few months for until I can handle schoolwork. I want to leave charart officially tomorrow, for that's when school starts for me. Thank you everyone for your kind criticism, and I'll miss you all. 15:38, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Aw..I'll miss you Tawny. :) Thanks for your chararts. ^^ 16:05, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Goodbye, Tawny. We'll miss you, and may StarClan light your path. 18:34, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

My first charat
Hey guys sandshadow i was just wondering what you think of my first charat?

Please leave comments that could help me be a better charat designer.Sandshadow 19:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

This is lovely, but this needs to be in the charart section and it is over the limit. I believe Lionstar already has an image. 19:45, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Lionstar