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Stonefur Alt. (D) ~ For Approval
I really hate the shading and the ear pink. >_< Comments? 20:33, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the ear pink tons. Make the ear pink smaller and center it as well. 20:38, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I knew that would happen. But I still dont like it and I blured over it a bunch... 22:12, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink color less neon/bright. Dull it. 22:32, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tryed to dullen it but I ended up darkening it....I had now idea how do dull it to be truthful... 22:44, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Give the eye some depth, not just one flat color. Blur the shading more, add some between the foreleg and haunch, and have less on the tail. 22:46, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 22:57, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I thought the shading was funny. And I did my best with the depth. Looks better now! 23:02, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink. 23:03 Sat Nov 5

Blur the shading a lot and thicken it. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:42, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs major blurring, fix that. 00:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the heading for you. Anyway, redo the shading so it conforms to the contours of his body and add depth to his eye, maybe change the color to match that image, which is where the alt came from. You might want to tone down you highlights, too. 01:00, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re-did the hole thing and I added the depth as much as I could. Comments? 01:43, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Shading still needs to be blurred a lot. 03:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured and blured but it doesn't look to different. Sorry you guys... 03:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I believe this needs to be renamed Stonefur.deputy.alt.png 03:48, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Want a really useful tip for blurring the shading so it looks natural? Take your blur tool, set it on "60", then blur the edges of the shading with a small brush, then get a slightly larger brush, use the blur tool, set it on "100", then blur where you smudged. You may have to do it more than once, but once it looks natural, then you're good to go! 05:13, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the earpink, and make it more triangular. 13:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded @Twilightheart I tryed but it just ended up with spaces and @ Shadewing I don't really know how to dullen the ear pink but...well I tryed! 16:22, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can help you if you want. 16:27, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

What with, Stoneclaw? 18:38, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

You don't know how to dull earpink? You just.. darken it.. Perhaps smudge the shading and then blur the smudges a lot. I do that sometimes. -- 19:51, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the shading worse...if possible... 20:19, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Do you need help with the shading? -- 22:16, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes plesae... 23:39, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading for you and blurred the earpink. -- 00:00, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Awesome, Snowwy. ^^ 02:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Just blur the shading on his neck.

Reuploaded Thanks for the help Snow.. And I used Ivystripe's thing. THanks for the help everyone! -- 15:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. -- 00:11, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I also darken it a touch. 00:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a bit. 02:57, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Other than the shading that needs to be blurred, this looks really great. :) . 04:32, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks. I actually blured it a lot to be sure. :) 22:39, November 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * ) Better. The shading on the tail just looks to dark, can you fix that? If not, I think it's okay. ^.^ . 23:00, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now that I look at it I know see that you are right. *dips head* Thank you for your comment. 01:23, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful, Sandstorm, dull the earpink. 03:16, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thank you. And changes not showing. Made very nice progress over the few days! I really love this now! 03:29, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the chest shading? 01:02, November 11, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I blured everything just to be sure. 01:37, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Shading still needs to be blurred more. 18:36, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Especially around the shoulder and neck. ;) . 21:23, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Did you smudge the shading on the neck.....? Smooth out the shading by blurring it. -- 12:12, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

I am gonna work on this soon but Snowwy I didn't touch it other than blurring it... Why Snowwy? 20:57, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe because it looks smudged :P Blur it out nevertheless when you get to work on this. -- 21:03, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred a lot. The changes aren't showing. Other then the shading I think this is good! 16:54, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Could you blur the shoulder shading a tad? 02:28, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded You say blur, then I shall BLUR! 02:56, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Still need to be blurred more. You can see where the shading and the highlights (if you use them, if not, than the normal pelt color), meet. Try and blend it. 18:39, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks like a blob. Please make it more triangular.

I think the earpink looks okay. There's lot of chararts with earpinks like that. 20:12, November 14, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I didn't touch the ear pink. The changes aren't showing >_< 21:48, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and make it fit into the ear more. Blur the shading/highlights and smooth them out considerably. 00:34 Tue Nov 15

Reuploaded I really don't get what's up with the shading. I blured it soo much! >_< 22:59, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

You can always use Gaussian Blur to blur the shading. Theres a Gaussian Blur on Pixlr, I think. 23:20, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

...What? But I used Ivystripe's thing and it normally works! 23:24, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger. 00:01, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I also blured it a lot. 02:40, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur 'em more. Also, this needs to be named Stonefur.deputy.alt.png. 03:26, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the neck looks uneven, can you smoot it out do it doesn't look so bumpy? :) . 03:46, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I renamed it. Can somebody help with the shading? I can't blur it anymore! 23:21, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

What program do you use? It should be easy enough to do it yourself. Smudge it and blur it. Also right now the shading doesn't make much sense. Look at this tutorial image and follow one of the warrior shading examples. I'd suggest the first one, as it seems the closest to what you have right now. 00:23 Thu Nov 17

I use pixlr. I already smudged it becuase somebody else told me too. 01:29, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

It still needs to be changed a lot. It really doesn't make much sense as it is right now. 01:32 Thu Nov 17

Well I did my best... But it doesn't make sense? It's a charart... 01:59, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Shading needs to make a charart look 3D and right now yours isn't serving that purpose. It doesn't look like you changed anything. Did you reupload? 02:03 Thu Nov 17

Lighten the shading then blur like it could save your life XD 18:51, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

I would say thin out the neck shading. 20:32, November 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I just re-did the whole thing. 23:05, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful, perhaps add a bit of shading on the tail. :3 00:24, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There was already shading there so I darkened it. Thank you for your praise 01:51, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think you use highlights... right? Just guessing. If you do, can you brighten the highlight on the haunch to match the other highlighted spots? 01:58, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Make the tail lighter, and darken the shading on it. Right now it looks all shading. -- 02:01, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yes, I use highlights. 02:38, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a triangle, 'cause right now, it seems like a blob with a small point. xD 07:57, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I am soo glad I re-did this!

Much better. Darken the feet and add a light area to the tail so it looks more dimensional. Make the earpink smaller and dodge it a bit. 23:51 Fri Nov 18

Reuploaded I just made the area on the tail lighter because it was already there. I leik this :3 00:29, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Did it specify which cat in the picture was him? I always though the front one (with amber eyes) was Graypool and the back one was Stonefur. If that was the case, this would need to be darkened and the eye color would need to be changed. How do we decide which cat's which in these cases? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  02:47, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm well I don't know. Leads? 17:36, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I have the book right in front of me. I do believe Stonefur is the cat furthest to the right, however, it doesn't directly state it. If I'm correct, this needs to actually be lightened. Throughout the book, on the pages where there are groups of cats, the order of the wording at the bottom of the page with the picture is usually the order of the cats in the picture themselves. We don't know this for sure, though. In fact, this shouldn't even be up if we don't know for sure which cat is which. 18:04, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

O.O whhhaaaat? 18:13, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Talon had an alt and Sharpclaw received one too assuming that the order of wording is the same as that in the pictures. Concerning the picture, there seems to be more of a highlight on the fore paw nearest us rather than on the tail. Nice job 18:26, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

So before and if I reupload, is this declined? 18:41, November 19, 2011 (UTC) Define and darken the shading and blur the highlights. 23:32, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded The highlight is on the tail and the paw. 02:21, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it doesn't really make sense for the highlight to be on the paw. Darken it to match the rest of the leg, and darken the hind paw that definitely should be in shadow. 05:01 Sun Nov 20

Reuploaded I made it worse >_< 15:55, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink triangular. 22:52 Sun Nov 20

Umm it is. That's the best I could make it without it looking creepy. 00:06, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looking creepy? I don't think earpink CAN look creepy. And it still needs to be a bit more even and triangular. It's a bit lopsided right now. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  04:29, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the top of the earpink is curved downward. And the shading on the tail looks weird to me. I'd shade it darker on the bottom, or at least at that weird spot where it's shadow and then really light.

Forgot to sign. ~Breezewhisker~ 05:12, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink back into the ear, and the shading still needs to be blurred. 07:46, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is it getting better? 00:32, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

It is getting better ^^ There is a dark spot on his tail where it looks like the shading leaked. Get rid of that and I think it'll be ready for CBA. 02:00, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the haunch highlight, I can see it layer out. -- 02:03, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :D 02:06, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me! CBA? 02:59, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

D: I'm sorry to interrupt CBA, but the shadings blotchy on the leg nearest us. I'm sure this'll be CBAed in right after though! It looks wonderful. 02:19, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There's nothing wrong with it.....:_: 02:25, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

I saw it as well. If nothing was wrong, she wouldn't have commented. I can still see a small, dark blotch. -- 02:31, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I triple checked an now it's gone. Changes aren't showing. 02:35, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

You still need to blur the shading a bit. Then it should be ready for CBA. 03:16, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear-pink and make sure it's constant; it looks a bit smudgy - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 21:24, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I didn't touch the ear pink too much though. 21:57, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more Wild  fire Hazelx Thorn!  00:42, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a tad bit more pink. 02:20, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Don't forget to sign, Sandstorm! Blur the earpink and make it smaller. 02:19 Sun Nov 27

Reuploaded I made it worse 21:32, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all the shading, then blur and pinken the earpink. 21:18, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Also make the earpink a tiny more triangular. F i r e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  21:27, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oh my....I hate this... 21:55, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Did'ya use highlights? If you did, blur 'em. Also, darken the shading just the slightest. 22:06, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded This looks horrible! And yes I use Highlights. 23:17, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be blurred and fit into the ear and the shading/highlights need to be blurred majorly. <span style="">23:36 Mon Nov 28

Reuploaded I just re-did most of the shading. Changes not showing. 00:03, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looking good, Sandstorm. Blur the shading on the front paw a bit, please. 21:26, November 29, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I also fixed some blured lineart. 21:33, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? 21:06, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but can you blur where the shading on the front leg where it meets with the unshaded parts? 22:13, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

You forgot to change the heading, Misty. :3 22:18, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blargh. I'm still thinking like an apprentice.. xD  00:53, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now it's the exact same color as the fur around it. 14:17, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a lot, and blended with the highlights. The ear pink should be centered within the ear, since some of it leaks down on to the shoulder. 00:54, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I can't blur the highlights much more. 04:02, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading, and center the earpink. <span style="">04:05 Sat Dec 3

Reuploaded This looks horrible! 04:15, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the highlight near the shoulder, it's a bit too bright. 15:10, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:51, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks like a lopsided triangle. 19:22, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Made it worse >_> 19:30, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. <span style="">08:01 Sun Dec 4

Longest thing on here.... Uh.... Blur the shading. I hate repeating things....  ~Regifloat222  Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 17:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed some blured lineart and some waste. 18:27, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Apprentice Blanks~ For Approval
Okay figured id finally post these. Its going to take forever to get them approved anyway. So ill make the back ground transprent when im done, and deal with any half erased pixels. Its just easier that way. And ill post the MCAs after these are approved. Its gonnna be a long approval process.... 05:03, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

* Stunned* These look amazing. Perhaps thin out the lineart on the forepaw/leg closest to us on the shorthaired blanks. 05:07, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

YAY MY LOVE YOU POSTED THEM <3 Make the front paw closest to us smaller. <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 I LOVE THESE <span style="">05:10 Thu Nov 10

Thin out the lineart on the tip of the tail for the shorthaired blanks. Other then that... yay! I <3 'em. 05:11, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, this isn't about how the blanks look. I'm confused, I thought we were waiting to post these until the fourth series was done? o.0  05:13, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Crouched like that, their shoulders would be higher up and the front of their backs would not be concave. Look here. Specifically at the cat on the top right. These look like their shoulders are dislocated. No offense. 05:14, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Also, what about MCA's? 05:23, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

She said she was going to post those after these ones were approved. 05:27, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, missed that. 05:33, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno if I'm allowed to comment here, but I can stick it in Photoshop and redline the anatomy for the body if you'd like? If you'd rather I not, I'd suggest rounding the shoulders and smoothing out the back, like Shellheart said. Drop the head down and to the left a bit, right now it makes the front of the neck appear to long and the chest to big. Bring the hindquarters forward slightly to help with the back. This is the closest I could find to the position you have here It's a snow leopard, but has roughly the same shape as a domestic cat. ~Breezewhisker~ 05:42, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

^^^ Why is that person not in our project!? Please join! 05:48, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah Breeze, join us! I really don't have anything to say about this, since what's been said really is fixing up what I had in mind. I just wanted to say lovely job, Iceheart! 05:51, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly, I'd love to know the same thing. That's a very detailed explanation, and it's better then anything I could have said. Wow. Breezewhisker, you really should join PCA. 05:53, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I don't think I'd be good about the regular part in the guidelines, though, with school and stuff. ~Breezewhisker~ 06:14, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Whoa, we're actually doing this 5 months early?? Awesomeee! The chest kinda looks like its not connected to the stomach right behind the front leg, Holy crap these are epic! XD - 06:23, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wow! Okay, sorry if it's just me but the muzzle kinda looks.. akward, the way it's sitting. It looks like it's been moved too much to the side. Hope you get what I mean. 06:40, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

GORGEOUS! The only thing I can see wrong other than what's already been said is, the tail on the longhair blanks are a bit too pointed. So just to get this straight, once these are approved, we can go on making NEW apprentice images, but we can't tweak any of the old ones till either after the forgotten warriors is out, or after the current series is done, right? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ <b> ☆StarClan be with you★ </b> 07:17, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

SPECTACULAR! OH MY GOSH! This is amazing. But personally the tail looks a little too bushy at the start of it. 11:32, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

These are breathtaking! Can you make the top of the head curve round a bit more on the shorthairs, and possibly shorten the neck by a few pixels on all the blanks. 12:05, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yay! These are awesome. Maybe make the whiskers a little bit longer? -- 12:24, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

The shoulders just look off. There are joints misplaced in it, and there's length is places that their simply shouldn't be length. I suggest reviewing your cat foreleg anatomy and sourcing that up. I know you're going for that half-crouch play pose... But frankly it looks canine in the body right now, not feline. 14:31, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

They look so... different *-*. I'm not sure if this has been said, but could you make the shorthaired tals more round at the end? 19:02, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart, I have to say I'd vote for Breezewhisker to redline the anatomy. She has a lot of experience with animal anatomy. You should see her DA page, it's amazing! And since she offered, you know, it could make things go faster here. 19:18, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

* Huggles* They're great! Though I do agree with Breezewhisker. *clings to Breezewhisker* You must join us... o.o Okay, done with the stalker part... The long haired tail, in my opinion, needs to be longer. It kind of looks like Berrynose's tail in a way. Other than that, great! M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   21:06, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Breezewhisker. Also, I agree with Shelly. I think Breezewhisker should redline the anatomy. Also agreeing with Misty; the long haired tails do look like Berrynose's tail. They look a little bit too straight, too, though it may just be me. 21:14, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Should these be made transparent? 21:18, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

She said she'll make the background transparent. Just give her time. 21:20, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay :P 21:22, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, Icy! I kinda looks like their muzzles are tiny bit crooked, slanting this side ---> and with the longhaired blanks, their tails kinda look like pine cones xPP Can you maybe make it a bit more like the To-be blanks? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 21:59, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Redlines. I did them fairly quickly, so they're not perfect, but perhaps they'll give you a general idea. ~Breezewhisker~ 22:41, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

They are wonderful, Breezewhisker. Very nice. 22:47, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Whoa, those are epic! Now you definately should join the project 8DD So, is Ice gonna trace over them or somethin? Oh, and I think you should draw a line over the bases of the tail - 22:48, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Breezewhisker's redlines look wonderful! Pleasepleaseplease use them! 22:57, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

If she wants, I guess. What I'm mainly trying to show is the skeletal and some of the muscle structure. The outline ones are to show a little bit how the edited structure would make them appear. I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by the line over the bases of the tail, though. ~Breezewhisker~ 22:59, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

I wasnt talking about your redlines, though. Im thinking the lineart should be connected at the base of the tail - 23:01, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, okay. ~Breezewhisker~ 23:06, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

The lineart just seems a little thin around the eyes and whiskers. And the blanks look... a little cartoon-y if you ask me. Perhaps include some depth in the shoulders, and haunches like we did with the prey-hunters? We need to make these look like actual bases. /waits to get shot by Iceheart. -- 23:13, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

The long furred blnck on the tail it looks to plumped. Make it go a touch bit longer. Also the ear, amke it a little bit bigger. Very nice!

This is great! Can you make the tails on the long hairs more furry? 00:59, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Epic. :D Can you make the back leg closer to us slightly closer to the body, it looks too far from the body and the front leg seems closer. 01:05, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

The muzzle looks akward. 22:31, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

These look awesome! The tails on the long hairs look a bit, well, fat. Maybe thin them out a tiny bit. Or something. Leopard claw  Look up  to the past…  08:27, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Just some constructive criticism here-the long haired tails look kinda like Cedarpelt's. and the muzzle looks awkward. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 17:07, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Mmmm, maybe make the long haired tail curve more like the short hairs? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Green" >Sky-Stupidly <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="pink"> Spring...✿ 02:11, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

The fur on the chest on the long haired ones, maybe make it to where it's more pointed, not that curved, because it kind of looks odd to me. Givingheartstar Enjoy :D  19:05, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart put in a polite request for y'all to hush up for a bit. Right now it seems you're commenting on the images ^up there^, and she's in the process of modifying those blanks to look more like Breezewhisper's redlines, so your comments will amount to nothing until she's reuploaded the blanks. (She's writing an English speech right now, so she can't get on the computer to say so herself) So until she reuploads, don't comment, okay? :3 <span style="">03:34 Tue Nov 15

Reuploaded- Thank you Breezewhisker, saved my butt. Anyway, theyre still a fail but lets move on. You guys need to check out they guidelines: You are not supposed to post a comment that someone already said. After the fist 8-10 people 90% of the comments were repeats. And as for the comments, they have to be helpful. Im well aware i need all the help i can get with these, but comments like "The muzzle looks awkward" arent helpful. You must suggest a way to fix it. And thats my rant. Comments? 23:28, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

These look much better, Iceheart. Could you make the lineart on the front right leg a little thicker? The cat's right, not ours. 23:34, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should get rid of the line coming into the front leg at the elbow. It makes the elbows come out a too sharp an angle. 23:56, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Also, the tails on the long furred cats look like they aren't following the spine. Just have them come out at the top the same way they do on the short haired cats with the bottom being furry. 00:03, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

They are very pretty! Can you thick the tail fluff on the long hairs? 00:52, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Can you make the whiskers on our right, their left come in towards the center of the muzzle a tad? These are wonderful, I can't wait to use them <3  01:05, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely, Iceheart! Raise the shoulders a tad more, extend the line of the jaw this way --> a bit more and maybe make the hind haunch of the longhairs furry. Add to what Shelly said, maybe drop the tails downward since cats are taught not to stalk with their tails up. xP - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 01:29, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic job, Iceheart! ^-^ Though there is waste or gray lineart on the tip of the tail on the long furred apprentice. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   03:02, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lookin' good. The thing that really bugging me, though, are the tails on the long haired cats - they'd look a better if the tops were concave-looking like the short-haired ones, just fluffier on the underneath since that's the direction of the fur. ~Breezewhisker~ 03:55, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really sure if this counts, but when I imagine a cat, or look at mine from a front angle, their faces always seem more triangular-ish, kind of wide near their ears and tapering down to their muzzle. Well with these, the face seems to jut out a bit near the left eye. Again I'm not sure if it counts, but it makes the face seem ... a bit blocky. Maybe you could narrow it down a bit more? Otherwise I think they look fantastic! -- 04:22, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think the tails' current positions are fine (don't drop them like Scarlet suggested - I don't think they're stalking, I think they're just playing) but by saying that, I'm not trying to contradict Shelly's statement. The top of the tails should be a bit straighter, like the shorthair blanks. Make the back a tad flatter. These are awesome <3 <span style="">00:14 Thu Nov 17

I don't mean to be annoying to Wildheart, but the back doesn't need to be any flatter - I think the curve in it should be moved so that it is by the base of the tail. ~Breezewhisker~ 03:10, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe add some fur on the haunch lines on the longhaired blanks? 00:40, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Extend the muzzle becuase it looks to squished right no. Extend the ear a touch and the tail still looks to plump. Smooth it out so it looks a little bit more balanced. 01:54, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think the ears are fine, but I do after to agree with the muzzle.. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   20:56, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Yes i understand the tails look better like this, but part of me wants them to still be a poof, so they at least match trhe warrior images a bit. 20:04, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I would say I like them better with the poof, but that's just my opinion. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   20:15, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I also think you should keep the poof. The longhaired female's tail is different from the longhaired male's tail, make them the same. 21:36, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I like the poof too. Maybe make the long-haired blank's fur have less fur showing, and slightly thicken it out so it matches the other blanks, if that makes sence. 22:41, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, the poof does look a bit better. I just don't think it needs to be quite that poofy. Maybe make the end a little thicker so it looks smoother with the poof. ~Breezewhisker~ 00:37, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should keep the way it curves on the top, but make the bottom more plumey. I don't like the way it curved before. <span style="">04:41 Sun Nov 20

Sort of like this and this and this although the last one's at an odd angle. Actually, the second image was just 'cause I thought it was funny. <span style="">05:55 Sun Nov 20

So to poof or not to poof? Ive gotten multiple different answers and none really line up. 01:47, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

I say keep the line of the top of the tail, but make the bottom really poofy. <span style="">01:56 Thu Nov 24

What Wildheart said. Keep the line showing the top of the tail, but fluff out the bottom. ~Breezewhisker~ 02:06, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

These look great, yeah make it fluffy, and what was our reason for changing them? Just wondering 22:20, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Everything about the image was just off. The tails looked weird, the ears were hard to make the ear pink fit. You name it, that was probably an issue. 22:22, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah the tails are totally different sizes 22:39, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

The heads look a bit oval-y. Move the ears <-- this way a bit, bring the far cheek in a bit more and let the muzzle stick out a bit more. Also disconnect the bottom of the ear to the lineart of the upper jaw. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 20:49, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 07:00, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the long haired tails a bit thicker and pointier at the tip. Also, on all the blanks, it looks like the back leg farthest from us, is going in front of the front leg closest to us. Does that make any sense? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  07:06, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

The elbow joints still look like they're broken. Make them jut up less. 13:13, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a little off to me. Possibly move the eye closest to us a bit down? (I don't know how else to put it in words.) 16:47, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Could you make the paws look like they're gripping the ground? Possibly make the toes spread out? -- 22:19, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Arch the back a bit towards the hindquarters. ~Breezewhisker~ 01:45, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Also move the joint in the back leg and the shoulder up a bit, and move the head down. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  11:24, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I didnt do all of it because it looked bad but i did most. I hate reuploading all these, theres so many. 00:22, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

The only thing I really see is maybe the whiskers on our right. They're at the same angle the muzzle would be and look plastered to the side of its face. Maybe angle them like the other side or curve them a little. These look really great, Iceheart! ~Breezewhisker~ 04:45, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I got bored and played with these to make a charart already (random cahrart, not submitting) and found that there's a bit of blurred lineart around the image. Take out the white and fill in the cat in and you can see it. 22:27, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Woot the comments are slowing down. I said id get rid of the waste when these are CBAed and i will, but for now theres no point. 02:08, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the bottom part of the back leg closest to us slant a bit more to match the inside of the leg's slant. If that makes any sense. XD <span style="">02:30 Fri Dec 2

Not really.. 02:35, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

On the longfurred tailThe tip,i looks like, it wass flattend, and it looks werid, maybe curve it a bit more? And make the Background transparent. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:41, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'd move the far hindleg forward so that the toes are barely hidden by the foreleg. That'll help the cat appear more balanced. ~Breezewhisker~ 05:06, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful but could you spread the toes a little? But my computer is messed up so I it might be okay. -- Acornflight  Med. Cat of LunarClan!  00:49, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I'm kind of nervous critiquing a line art, but on the long haired blanks, the tail tips seem a little flat. Please feel free to disagree. :3 . 01:02, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

You made them smaller! I liek it. Okay. So. What I meant was that the inside of the back leg closest to us is slanting to the right a bit, correct? Well the outside of the back leg is kinda perfectly vertical, and I think it should slant like the inside of the leg. Keep in mind I'm talking about the bottom of the leg, not the haunch. Hope that makes more sense. <span style="">03:14 Sat Dec 3

Can you bring the chest closer to the ground, thus bringing the head closer to the ground? Right now it looks sort of like the cat's are making an arch posistion, but still while crouching down though. <span style="">05:11, Sat, Dec, 3, 2011

Reuploaded- 06:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

SO CUTE!!!! Awww. Um, the fluffiness in the longhaired ones needs to stick out more, it looks like the fur is just poofy, not long and sticking out. Also...the wrinkle behind the face is kind of odd, and the face seems to be slightly off in position. But other than that i absolutely love it! can't wait! Does this mean we will have to redo all of the apprentices or once apprenticed characters in this wiki again???? If so, awesome! I'll have lots more work to do and not be bored! xD 21:30, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Also the fluffiness is too small. 21:33, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The fluffiness looks just fine. Otherwise, the lines will be a pain to color and shade. ~Breezewhisker~ 22:41, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (Alt. W) - For Approval
As he's shown in The Rise of Scourge. 18:15, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

(As I am too lazy to look it up) did you ever get rid of one of your three reservations so you can do this? 18:18, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

No. If I was supposed to, then decline this. -_- 18:20, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind. 18:23, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the ear-pink, and there is some gray in between the he haunch, and back paw, and make him long-furred, he looks long-furred. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:50, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Theres waste between his legs - 18:53, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the ear pink? :) . 18:57, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Enlargen the ear pink and center it while dulling it.Also smudge the paws and tone down the highlights if your using them. Also darken the shading a touch. Very accurate! 21:08, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

The shading's dark enough. .-. However, can you blur it and blend it with the highlights a little more (if you use them, that is)? 21:11, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Could you please blur the neck shading? <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">Star <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">shine <font color="Silver">☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 21:43, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

His legs are shown as dark grey, not black. 02:34, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

You forget color one leg..or he have only three dark legs? Leaf-storm,16:45,November 13,2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: He only has three dark legs. 16:52, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink and blur the highlights a lot. 19:19, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ear-pink is fine, Sand. Define the highlight on the face and middle of the tail a bit more. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 02:07, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste, make the earpink just a tad smaller (sorry Scarlet, but she's right) and move the chest highlight to the left a tad/thin out the shading on the left of the chest and thicken it on the right. <span style="">00:42 Tue Nov 15

Just letting you guys know that I probably won't be able to work on this until Friday, because of school. 11:11, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blend the high-light into the pelt a little bit more please. <span style="">01:50 Thu Nov 17

There's some waste under the belly. 19:23, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't the eyes be amber unless they said otherwise? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Dark blue" >Trollsky <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="blue"> She who Trolls everything 01:33, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. 05:31, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the highlight a bit. Leopard claw  Look up  to the past…  17:15, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading on the tail? 22:12, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Moon? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 23:20, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

I could take over if Moonflight isn't working on/uploading this anymore. 08:15, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

I belive you have to wait for that person to say they aren't working on this. For all we know, Moonflight's internet could be down. Just be patient. 00:16, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

If it's been a week without work, DJ, you may take over. 00:20, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded -  shouldn't this charart have white markings on the face, because that's how he was shown in the Rise of Scourge? 07:51, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it should. Blur the tail tip and the ear pink. It's very blotchy. Blur the shading too. 22:01, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading, the rest looks fine to me. <span style="">02:05 Thu Nov 24

I think the shading looks fine. It shows the size of his shoulder well. Maybe smudge/blur the darker part on the front leg a bit. ~Breezewhisker~ 02:14, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I don't really like the white markings. I blurred the shading just a bit anyway. 05:54, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading as it looks flat. Neat! 01:59, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, the shading look... awkward, because of the smudging, if other people agree with me, do you think you could fix it? <span style="">12:39 Sun Nov 27

Try blurring the shading, not smudging. You also have blurred lineart near his muzzle, tail and a bit on his haunch. Also, make the earpink more triangular. Sorry for all this. xD  21:59, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  I redid the shading, and the white face markings still bug me. <span style="">06:17, Mon, Nov, 28, 2011

Better. Smooth out the shading a little more. 20:39, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the white markings and there is waste around the image. 21:15, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. -- 01:16, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - <span style="">06:00, Tue, Nov, 29, 2011

There is waste under the chin and smudged lineart on the tail. And blur the earpink. 20:59, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded -the lineart and waste is bugging me, I bet the next comment will be on that. Also now the earpink sucks... <span style="">07:38, Wed, Nov, 30, 2011

o.o *meep* There's waste near the tail lineart. .3.  20:44, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

My dear apprentice! *so proud* iz good. Make the earpink a tad lighter and blur it :3 <span style="">01:50 Thu Dec 1

Reuploaded -  I never knew it was this good Wildheart.. xD Thanks. Yes I knew the next comment would be on waste. I hope there's none left. <span style="">05:53, Thu, Dec, 1, 2011

It is very good :3 but try taking the earpink from here. <span style="">04:06 Fri Dec 2

Reuploaded - I <3 this charart. <span style="">06:02, Fri, Dec, 2, 2011

Reuploaded -  Now I've got GIMP lets see how this works. <span style="">23:16, Sat, Dec, 3, 2011 Blur the white on the tail, and try and smudge it a bit to give it a "furry" look. 23:18, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  like this? I must say this looks spunkeh! <span style="">00:02, Sat, Dec, 3, 2011

Looks good! ^^ Just blur the smudging a bit, and there's so smudged lineart on the tail, so fix that too. Nice. :) ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  21:37, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Cinders (Lo) ~ For Approval
Yep, Cinders is Sol's mother. I went by what I saw in the manga. Sorry I didn't get to add it to the table. I'm not back on it yet. 00:43, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the patches. Nice work. 00:48, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading, darken the earpink, and possibly smudge the patches a bit, as they look a little...conform, not sure if that's the appropriate word. *shrug* She looks neat! 00:50, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'll work on all those in the morning. 01:13, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Did you use pure black? You shouldn't have, as it messes with the lineart. Change it to a darker gray. 04:42, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, if you look carefully, you can just see the lineart. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Dark blue" >Trollsky <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="blue">She who Trolls everything 06:45, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well regardless of whether it's pure black or not, it still needs to be lightened. Also, smudge the patches a bit. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  06:48, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular and blur it. 10:41, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did everything said. Changes are showing. 14:21, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink a bit. 14:42, November 23, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

ig i can still comment here, the back left leg seems a lot darker than it should be<font color="Blue">Blue <font color="Purple">dawn <font color="#3b8ad4" style="background:none;"> With <font color="#1e6bb3" style="background:none;">Clouds <font color="#015294" style="background:none;">like Shining <font color="#003775" style="background:none;"> eyes... 15:00, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

It's supposed to be Bluedawn. 21:10, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the ear-pink too. 22:22, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

You still need to blur and smudge the patches a lot but other than that darken the ear pink and make it triangular. 22:26, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the "black" or whatever it is a little bit. I'm having trouble telling it apart from the lineart. 22:29, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:46, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Define/largen the ear-pink. And make it less, hot pink-ish. <span style="">01:46 Thu Nov 24

Reuploaded Changes are showing now. 12:52, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the fur more or blur the black spot more. Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  00:30, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes aren't showing yet  00:43, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ok now they are showing. 00:46, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Also, try to smudge where the black meets the white on the neck. I think you overblurred. Silver, if you have trouble trying to fix it, just ask. ;) 02:27, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry the new version is horrible. My computer needs fixed AGAIN so I'm on my dads. 13:22, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, it kind of doesn't look like it has any. 23:19, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Also enlarge the earpink. <span style="">01:13, Sat, Nov, 26, 2011

I'll get to that tomorrow morning. 00:56, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded This scares me >_>  18:37, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

I really like this. Can you possibly blur the patches more, though? 05:39, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Actually I'd say smudge the patches a tad more so they look like Ivy's image. <span style="">08:01 Mon Nov 28

Reuploaded Yes it's smudged not blurred. 00:17, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Can you define the earpink? 05:19, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

The white on the muzzle looks pure white. 21:05, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes aren't showing yet. 21:05, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay this hasn't changed too much since you started. Make the ear pink bigger and blur it. Lighten it a little bit too. Smudge the black patches by the legs and then blur it. Do the same with the patches. If it doesn't seem too different, just keep repeating the process. 15:30, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded hateithateithateithateit >_____<  22:26, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Try to look at other pictures of cats that are tortoiseshell, like Poppycloud or even Sol. See how the patches are smudged like that? Try to blur it and then smudge it, like on DJ's charart above. (Sorry, I'm very horrible at explaining)  21:13, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I need to make it look like Cinders queen image Misty. 22:12, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Giving a slight bump. 13:36, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Loudbelly (Lo) - CBA
I think he would get one since he got left back in the old forest when the Clans left. Well, comments? 16:46, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Does he get a loner? Did we ever discuss this at all? Well, if he does, define the earpink and blur the highlights. 16:53, November 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The discussion is on the talk page. Are his eyes purple? I think you should change them to more of a blue. 17:04, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

@Shadewing. No highlights on this one.

@Ivyheart. I took the eye color from his elder image... should I change it still? 18:20, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well he could get one along with the others who died. Tone down the shading a tad and make the ear pink more visible. 18:43, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes are purple, fix that, define the earpink, and blur the shading a tad. 20:02, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add depth to the eye if you want too. <span style="">20:22 Sun Nov 27

Yes, you should change it to another color. 20:45, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- 00:13, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading pwease. <span style="">01:26 Mon Nov 28

And make the ear-pink more triangular please. <span style="">01:29 Mon Nov 28

Reuploaded Sorry, I've been really busy. -- 20:21, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a tad bigger. <span style="">23:25 Sat Dec 3

Earpink looks fine to me. CBA? <span style="">08:06 Sun Dec 4

Frostfur (Lo) ~ For Approval
2nd loner, 2nd charart, interesting! Comments? :3 <span style="">20:33 Sun Nov 27

Make the shading darker and blur it, and possibly lighten up the non shaded areas. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Dark blue" >Troll-de-mort <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="blue"> Eh heh heh. 21:33, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

You have white pixels on the front back paw, behind her ear, on the belly fur, on her front leg closest to us and on the tail. Sorry if I'm wrong. Dx  22:04, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs. This is nice! 00:21, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, Misty, I'll try to find them, xD <span style="">00:57 Mon Nov 28

Re-uploaded Thanks Misty I found those! xD Darkened, defined and blurred zee shading. <span style="">01:18 Mon Nov 28

Maybe a little too dark. She looks sorta grey. And maybe bring the earpink forward a bit. ~Breezewhisker~ 01:30, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

I hate edit conflicts *coughcough*Breeze...*coughcough* xP Define the light on the tail, add shading to the back of the haunch, and fill the lineart on her left forepaw. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 01:32, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Edit conflict? Where? :P I don't know what one is Dx) Re-uploaded

Forgot to sign^^) I fixed the shading, it was horrible. <span style="">02:04 Mon Nov 28

Blur the shading some more, and make the earpink mor pink. 21:10, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. -- 01:18, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and blur it like Leopard suggested. 06:57, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">00:15 Wed Nov 30

You made it too dark. Lighten it a bit. If you use layers, try lowering the opacity of the layer with the shading about... hmm... 5-10%. Also, try and make the highlights consistant with each other, as the face is a lot brighter then the rest of the image. 05:29, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, I'm not using highlights. And I don't kno whow ot lower the opacity. <span style="">11:58 Thu Dec 1

Re-uploaded Lightened shading. <span style="">00:17 Fri Dec 2

In some places, the shading makes the pelt look gray and it doesn't stretch to the very interior edge of the lineart (as in it stops short a few pixels away from the lineart). So smooth over the shading, blur it, and smudge the shading all the way to the edge of the lineart. 00:28, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by "smooth" over the shading?

Forgot to sign ^^ <span style="">01:30 Fri Dec 2

The shading is blotchy and inconsistent, I think that's what she means. <span style="">05:52, Fri, Dec, 2, 2011

Re-uploaded <span style="">22:01 Fri Dec 2

Make the shading more consistent in intensity and blur it a lot. <span style="">08:08 Sun Dec 4

Smooth it out as well. It looks darker in some areas then others. 17:13, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">21:25 Sun Dec 4

Speckletail (Lo) ~ For Approval
Took the colors from her redone warrior image. Comments? 00:18, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Bootiful! Define the earpink, pwease. 00:24, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a bit. 00:28, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''^-^ 00:46, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, my love. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Dark blue" >Troll-de-mort <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="blue"> Eh heh heh. 00:50, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty! Blur the ear-pink please! <span style="">01:22 Mon Nov 28

Brighten the ear-pink and define the light on the tail. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 01:29, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I shall do as you say, Sky. :3 And yeah, I did everything else too. 04:08, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a bit. This is vewy vewy noice :3 Marry me? <span style="">08:05 Mon Nov 28

Reuploaded. I shall. :D  00:14, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken and lighten the stripes and make a few less of them. Nice job! ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  08:51, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken her just a tad. 12:34, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fail. 00:57, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a little more 00:04, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:07, December 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * steals* This is so beautiful! Maybe smudge the stripes just a tad and blur the shading more. 15:32, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

@Sandstorm She can't smudge the stripes... it has to look like her elder image. -- 22:05, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't think I should blur the shading because then you would barely see it. If someone else thinks I should, though, I'll blur it. 23:57, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Anways, it looks like a stripe is visible in the earpink. Can you fix that? 14:50, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Done! 16:17, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes a bit fatter to match the elder image. <span style="">08:10 Sun Dec 4

Reuploaded. 15:55, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Shadepelt (Lo) ~ CBA
Now I can upload it. *shot* ~Breezewhisker~  01:26, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty, Breeze! Brighten the ear-pink, blur the shading on the neck and maybe add some under the chin. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 01:28, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear-pink and make it triangular too. Som eof the shadin gis in the wrong place too if you look on the tutorial. The two middle paws are covered in shading and the hindquarter line goes up to the back. And the tail is covered in shading too. (Just going by what's on the tutorial). <span style="">01:34 Mon Nov 28

There should be some shading on the front of the middle legs and the top of the tail since the light source is in front of the cat in slightly above. ~Breezewhisker~ 01:42, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not shading, I meant light/highlights. XP ~Breezewhisker~  01:42, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice Breezewhisker, brighten the earpink a bit. <span style="">06:03, Mon, Nov, 28, 2011

I broke the wiki. OTL I don't know what I did.

Anyway, I'll try and edit it tomorrow. ~Breezewhisker~ 06:00, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. There's a subtle difference. ~Breezewhisker~ 21:57, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded (Again). Fixed the shading a bit. ~Breezewhisker~ 22:02, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear-pink. <span style="">00:21 Wed Nov 30

I think with the loner lineart, the ear pink could go either way. The head's facing front, so, the ears might as well. It's all up to the artist, and how they see the image, I believe. Just like the eyes on an image. 05:31, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

So move it or no? ~Breezewhisker~  21:39, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Only if you want to. I like it like this personally. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:21, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I like the earpink. Blur the shading just a little bit. -- 01:13, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred the shading. I didn't center the earpink as I think the ear is facing forward. ~Breezewhisker~ 21:53, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay all of the other images have the ear pink just in the center. The rules shouldn't change. Also dull the ear pink and blur the highlights a tad. <3 15:34, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

@Sandstorm It's not really a rule.... and it looks more natural if its facing that way. More realistic. -- 22:03, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't center the earpink since these ears look as if they're facing forward to me, and several have said that it looks fine. ~Breezewhisker~ 22:07, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Comments before approval? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  16:55, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for interupting CBA but I don't like the earpink. Could you please make it a bit more pink? But if anyone disagrees feel free to change the heading back and put up CBA again. 19:48, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Cinder, when you comment during CBA you have to change the heading back to "For Approval". 19:50, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I did...at least I meant to. Sorry 'bout that. 19:54, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly I really do think the earpink is fine.... ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  21:36, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, can you make the earpink the same as her other images? Because this one is duller <span style="">22:43 Sat Dec 3

The ear pink is fine, Sweet. It's probably how the ear pink is blurred or something. 22:44, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Gah. I'm so confused. So do I need to change it or not? ~Breezewhisker~ 23:09, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

No. I am continuing the CBA on this image. 23:11, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Feathertail (Alt.W2) ~ For approval
Comments? 00:02, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

She was an apprentice at the time, not a warrior. 00:07, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, forgot to add the trivia. This is for her no-stripe version in the Lost Warrior. 00:10, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Nice! Blur the earpink a little. 00:22, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Kay my bad sorry. 00:24, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder shading. 01:26, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Aww... I was hoping to get this... Ah well, darken the ear-pink and define the shading on the tail and forelegs a bit more. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 04:47, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 23:06, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the earpink. <span style="">00:06 Wed Nov 30

Re-Uploaded. 00:31, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Enlargen the ear pink just a tad, and blur it. 05:19, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I like small earpinks... 23:05, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a little more. It's too sharp. 23:21, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the ear pink a little bit. Blur the shading and blend it. Looks somewhat uneven. 19:51, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Rainwhisker (Alt.W) - CBA
Tell me youre not going to declide this, its manga alt, look in The Lost Warrior. Please :-) 07:25,November 30,2011 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the shading a bit. And define the earpink. 17:02, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm I mistakenly blurred hightlights, I maded something with it 18:02,November 30,2011 (UTC)

Oh and I forget earpink, fixed now 18:06,November 30,2011 (UTC)

Erm, wasn't he an apprentice? <span style="">18:07 Wed Nov 30


 * steals* The stripe on the head looks a tad uneven, could you smooth it out please? I love this.  19:17, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

If it was The Lost Warrior, he's a warrior, not an apprentice, Sweet. 20:15, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yes reuploaded :-) 20:46,November 30,2011 (UTC)

Could you add a bit of depth to his eye? Maybe one lighter pixel at the bottom? 18:48, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:26,December 1,2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail stripes. Nice! 20:31, December 1, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Could you colour pick the eye colour from his warrior? They're a lot lighter than this. 20:44, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, reuploaded 09:17,December 2,2011 (UTC)

Honestly, I see nothing wrong with this, it's beautiful! CBA? 05:48, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sol (Ki)- For Approval
Here is Sol... This is my first charart! I like this a lot. Purplemoon  Christmas time!  00:38, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Um... Kit? Since when? 00:40, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

He was seen as a kit in Beyond the Code, I think. Anyway, smear the patches to match the other chararts and add shading please. 00:41, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

There's a quote on his page where he's speaking to his mom, as a kit I assume, since he supposedly hasn't seen Cinders in quite some time. 00:42, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Purtyness :3 Add or define the shading a little. 00:46, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Fallenstars, I already said that... 00:49, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the pelt color is outside the ear lineart on the tufts. Also, make them more natural. Right now it looks like spikes on his ears. 01:47, December 1, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Also, you need to make it transparent. 02:14, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks too purple. Make it more pink please. <span style="">05:56, Thu, Dec, 1, 2011

The white looks pure white. Make it a light gray please. <span style="">12:06 Thu Dec 1

Add shadings  19:23, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

I feel immensely proud XD ANyway, can you smudge the different colours a bit more. 19:29, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Also, there seems to be orange in the left ear where black is supposed to be. <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6" style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">F <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">i <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">e <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">s <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">t <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">a <font color="Orange" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">r <font color="Red" face="Mistral" size="6"  style="background:transparent; border:1px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">! <font color=Gold>Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :)  21:10, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I did what you said, but now it has a black background. I don't know how to fix that... Purplemoon   Christmas time!  23:16, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Save the pile on your computer as a .png to submit it, not .gif or anything else. This will make it transparent. Also, rename the file Sol.kit.png. 23:16, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink on ---> this ear. 02:57, December 2, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I enlarged the earpink. Purplemoon  We wish you a Perry Christmas...  22:52, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

...are you going to make it transparent? Save it as Sol.kit.png. 23:00, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

It is saved as that I even clicked on it. Do you need some help Purplemoon? <span style="">23:05 Sat Dec 3

Um, yes. The blank opens up with a black background. I can't help it. Purplemoon  We wish you a Perry Christmas...  23:07, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There you go, Purple. ^-^ (sorry if I messed anything up *fail*)  23:21, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I tried to open it up again, but it had a black background! I need to fix something but it always has a black background. Purplemoon  We wish you a Perry Christmas...  23:23, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Use the Snipping Tool. Most Windows computers have them. Then just make the white transparent. 23:28, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

How do you get to it? Purplemoon  We wish you a Perry Christmas...  23:31, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Another way to do it is, right click on the image, then click 'Save as' and save the picture to your computer. Open it up into gimp, or program you use (I'm assuming gimp since it's the only program I know that does the black BG thing) and you should be fine. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  07:01, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

This is great! I see that you smudged the white patch in, could you smudge it out then blur it? I would make it bigger and make it look better. 19:30, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestar (Alt. Ki2)- For Approval


In the allegiances for Bluestar's Prophecy, she was described as a gray she-cat with blue eyes, and, in case you couldn't tell by my username, she's my favorite character, so I snatched her up as soon as I found out she would get one for that. Comments? Bluestar11796 23:03, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Not bad. Brighten the ear-pink and darken the shading. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 23:37, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! Blur the left ear's earpink. <span style="">00:14 Fri Dec 2

Cute! Define the shading and highlights. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:53, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 02:18, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the --> (right) side of her. <span style="">23:54, Fri, Dec, 2, 2011

Lighten the shading on the paws. 19:07, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes might not be showing. Bluestar11796 19:53, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks as if it's not in the right place on ---> this side. <span style="">21:21 Sat Dec 3

And center this ---> ear pink. And blur <--- this sides earpink a bit. <span style="">22:50 Sat Dec 3

This looks the color of her pale alt, which is still kinda blue-gray, maybe color pick from her gray leader alt? It'd look more gray probably. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  06:59, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 21:22, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Enlargen and center the ear pink. Darken and blur the shading, it looks like you have none. 21:33, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bluestar11796 23:16, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Bouncefire (Alt. W)~ CBA
If Russetfur gets one so does he, comments? 00:04, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Now this is what I call pro. Define the tail shading - 00:16, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

So pretty x3 *noms* Brighten the earpink. 01:12, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldnt he be short haired, or was it shown otherwise? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Dark blue" >Hey Shelly.... <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="blue">Penguiuuuiiinnn..... 01:21, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- He was shown as long hair as far as i can tell. This is my 43rd charart... 01:57, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Nice. Blend the shaded parts more into the non-shaded parts. <span style="">06:06, Fri, Dec, 2, 2011

Lighten the ear pink. Right now it looks purpleish. 15:36, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 21:59, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink more. 22:07, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

If i blur it more then it blends to well with the pelt, the ear pinks on this colour are impossible. 22:14, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Iceheart, this is a beautiful image. 19:20, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Why thank you. 19:46, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong, so CBA? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  05:24, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Frogleap (W) ~ For Approval
Hah! I found viable reasons to make both the Ceaderpelt kits! :D Comments? 01:16, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Add neck shading. 01:26, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Neck shading is fine, this is lovely. 01:30, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. <span style="">01:35 Fri Dec 2

Re-uploaded. 01:46, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I still think there should be neck shading. :/ 02:00, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

There is neck shading. The light is just coming from the front, and he's a dark cat, so it looks lighter. 02:10, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, then darken it a bit. <span style="">2:43am Fri Dec.2/11

I'd rather not. The lighting is coming directly from the front. He shouldn't have much of a shadow there, if any. 03:22, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

There shouldn't be shading on the front of the neck if the light scource is forward. I would erase some of the shading on the shoulder a bit. Cats have large shoulders and it would help the neck shading look better. ~Breezewhisker~ 05:27, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 05:32, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Shellheart, but can you lighten this a bit? I can barely see his stripes. 14:44, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I prefer subtlety, and I picked this color based on his father's charart made slightly darker. I won't lighten the coloring. 14:49, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Shelly. The color looks good. Blur the earpink a little. 20:29, December 2, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Lighten the shading on his tail, then; it looks darker than on his body. 20:30, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Since the light is coming from the front, maybe darken the leg shading. <span style="">8:42pm Fri Dec.2/11 20:42, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 01:54, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading on his belly, just above where the line of the haunch is. 03:34, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 03:43, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the belly and dull the ear pink. It's too bright for the body. 19:11, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on his belly is blurred and the ear-pink is appropriately colored. 20:14, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit and blur the shoulder shading ever-so-slightly. I love this image so much. XD ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  21:34, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or does he look like he's tinted green? No offense Shelly, I just want to make sure I'm not seeing things. 05:47, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I didn't use a greenish-brown for it, but the highlight may be giving it a green look. I don't think it's so bad, though. It isn't blatantly green like Jingo used to be, haha. 17:52, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Frogleap (Ki) - For Approval
10th charart =D!!! Comments? 01:47, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Baww, look at his little tail! <8D Darken the stripes just a tad? 01:57, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :3 02:03, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Cuute! Lighten the shading a tad. <span style="">02:21 Fri Dec 2

Reuploaded I don't like this shade of brown. >_< <span style="">2:45am Fri Dec.2/11

Hey! Respect the brown! And please darken the shading a smidge. 05:34, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="">6:03pm Fri Dec.2/11 18:03, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, Moon, and the shade of brown doesn't like you xD Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 19:31, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Maple, please don't make comments that are just for chat on here. If you wanna do something like that, just go to Moon's talk page, or, also post some comments for the image at the same time. Anyways, I'm in love with both of Frogleap's images. *.* Smudge the tail stripes ever so slightly and I think this will be perfect. :) ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  21:33, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) 02:41, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Tallstar (Alt. L) - For Approval
He was described with a "pelt as dark as the sky". Comments? <span style="">03:54 Fri Dec 2

Ehh, a pelt as dark as the sky... that's a pretty vague description. Was it night at the time? 04:47, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm day sky isnt dark xD 09:12, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Unless it's during a storm. What book was he described that way? 15:04, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

In The Sight while Jaypaw was spying on Kestrelpaw's dream. It may have been night, or it may have been stormy on the moor... I dunno. It was a dream, it could have been anything. 15:09, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose since it was night in the overworld, it can be assumed that he meant black. Go with it. 15:22, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Can you brighten the earpink on ---> this ear? I know the shading's darkening it, but it needs to be a bit brighter. Pretty! 20:26, December 2, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Redden the ear pink just a tad, and lighten the base pelt just a bit. I'm having a bit of a rough time telling the pelt apart from the lineart. 02:40, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded This is my first black cat. Can you tell? XD <span style="">03:10 Sat Dec 3

It's epic for your first black cat. =D Blur the neck shading a bit. 03:12, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thankies <3 But Honeypaw is epic-er. <span style="">03:19 Sat Dec 3

They're both epic x3. Blur the shading on the chest and front leg. 15:47, December 3, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded <3 <span style="">09:54 Sun Dec 4

Honeypaw (SC) (KP) ~ For Approval
They were taking food from kittypets, and now that her gender's confirmed, she gets a kittypet image as well. I figured she didn't get the collar though, so I removed it. 02:26, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, Sunfish KP :P. It really does look like Sunfish. Lighten the shading a tad, or darken the base a tad. That's it really. :P  ~Regifloat222  Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 02:32, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I colored picked again, and this is the darkest I'll make it. Re-uploaded. 02:36, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the lineart where you removed the collar.

~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 02:55, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

You need to be more descriptive. Where do I thicken the lineart? 02:58, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Between her shoulder and her chin. 03:22, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you. At least someone was specific enough. >.> 03:25, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

The neck looks weird. Like on the chest where the collar was. It should be moved and curved in a bit. ~Breezewhisker~ 03:56, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does that look better? 04:06, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Much. :) ~Breezewhisker~  04:09, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Nice. Define the earpink slightly and if you can blur the shading a bit more. <span style="">05:21, Sat, Dec, 3, 2011

Re-uploaded. 05:29, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the nose and blur the shading just a little bit. <3 <span style="">08:16 Sun Dec 4

Re-uploaded..... I'm not adding shading to the nose...it's fine. 15:43, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Nettlesplash (KP) ~ For Approval
I figured if Honeypaw would get one, why not him? And I really don't like this one for some reason.. >.< 18:33, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

You forgot to erase some of the collar lineart near where the head meets the neck. :3 18:35, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading lots. 18:36, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Do you see how I have the neck on Honeypaw? Can you try and match that so the neck doesn't look so thick? 19:12, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

<3 dull the ear pink a tad and give the eye some depth. Also blur the highlights and shading, try to blend them together. 19:16, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sandstorm, do not repeat what's already said. Moonleaf already asked her to blur the shading. Eye style is artist's choice. 19:18, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the shading, fixed the neck and I took the earpink off from his warrior image, but I'll dull it if anyone else agrees with Sandy. ^-^ 19:57, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't be dulled, if anything, it should be brightened. Define it a bit and make it stand out from the pelt more. Good job! ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  21:29, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded K, brightened the earpink. ^-^ Also, forgot to mention that there is no highlights on this one. 22:02, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink the same as his warrior image. <span style="">23:27 Sat Dec 3

I did take the earpink off his warrior image, I just brightened it... 00:49, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the lineart by a pixel or two where you took off the collar. ~Breezewhisker~ 00:59, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Can you define it a tad? <span style="">01:02 Sun Dec 4

Reuploaded Is that what you meant, Breezewhisker? And I assumed that you meant the earpink, Sweet so I decided to re-do it. 14:44, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you thickened it on the chin. I meant the neck. ~Breezewhisker~ 19:16, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Like this? 20:04, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Breezepelt (Ki) ~ For Approval
If Nightcloud gets a queen one, he gets a kit, comments? 05:44, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The lineart looks prickly. I don't know if that's waste or what. 05:45, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I can barely see the shading. If you used highlights, lighten them a little. ~Breezewhisker~ 05:47, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Breezepelt wasn't mentioned by name in the After Sunset play. I'm a bit iffy on whether or not he should get a kit charart. 16:46, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree, Shelly. In the After Sunset play (After Sunset: We Need To Talk), it was mentioned that Crowfeather had a son. Unless you can think of any other WC son of Crowfeather's, then this should continue. ~Regifloat222 Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 17:07, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I don't use highlights. 17:27, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well lighten the whole image a bit then. It's so dark the shading is hard to see. And yes, it did mention Crowfeather's kits in the play. Also, it mentions KitS, should the be added to Crowfeather and Nightcloud's page? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  18:08, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Add it, Paleh. Stoney, blur the shading. 22:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sandstorm (Alt. W) ~ For Approval
On page 271 of The Forgotten Warrior, Sandstorm is described as orange. Pale ginger and orange seem like two different colors to me. I may be mistaken. Anywho, comments? 17:31, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

She needs stripes. Orange = Ginger. 17:47, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 17:54, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit paler/define it. She was also mistakenly said to have golden eyes, so you could give her those too. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 19:26, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading  19:27, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Lilykit (Ki) ~ For Approval
Well....comments? 18:34, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Could you perhaps just sharpen the patches a bit? It may just be my opinion, but I think it'd look a bit better that way. 18:45, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

This is just preference, but could you add some black to the left (her right)? It looks kind of bare without a black patch to even it out. 19:26, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 19:46, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Why do she and Seedkit get chararts? Sorry that I didn't see the discussion, but I'm curious. 23:16, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Seedkit (Ki) - For Approval
Oi...I must really like kits. :P Comments~? 19:16, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Cute! Redden the ear-pink and define it in her ginger ear. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 19:23, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Thanks. 19:30, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

<3 Beautiful Twi! Blur the places where the patches are smudged, they're too sharp. 19:33, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Thanks~ 19:41, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Crap, I see waste. I'll kill it~ 19:41, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Killed the evil waste~! >:) 19:45, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

So cute! *noms* Define the shading. :3 (probably more evil waste for you to kill) 19:57, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - I hate the evil waste. :P 22:09, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Mottlepaw (Ki) - Declined
If Breezepelt gets one, so does Mottlepaw. Yes, I know the pattern doesn't really match, but his apprentice charart will have to be redone anyway. Comments? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 19:20, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly when was Mottlepaw mentioned as a kit? I thought we agreed that we wouldn't give every cat a kit charart just because they must have been a kit at some point. 19:23, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The patches look almost brown to me, make them more black 19:24, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

@Shelly, he is Poppycloud's son and she got a queen charart, just like Nightcloud. If Breezepelt is going to get a kit charart, then so will he. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 19:27, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Breezepelt got a kit charart because he was mentioned as a kit in After Sunset:We need to talk. I don't think Mottlepaw gets a kit charart, as he was never mentioned as a kit. Only an apprentice. 19:29, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

If Mottlepaw gets one, then any cat who ever lived would get one, as they were all kits at one point. Changing heading to declined; if any leads disagree, feel free to voice your opinion. 22:26, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Adderfang (Alt. W) - For Approval
Comments? 20:25, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, he's already a brown tabby. Just because they elaborated to call him dark doesn't mean they made a mistake. 20:29, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Um... I asked on the talk page and someone, I think it was Ivystripe, said they were different 20:49, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, on the discussion page Wildfire asked if there was a majority difference between dark brown and just brown, and Ivystripe said yes. Sorry to barge in, I just felt the need to randomly put that in. . 22:13, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think this is a big enough difference. Ivystripe is a senior warrior, but so are myself and Shelly. If more leads think he should get one, then he will. In the meantime, though, it's two to one. 22:28, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

A dark tabby is still a tabby, as is a mottled tabby. This isn't really a difference, as Shelly already said, just justifying the shade of brown he was. If anything, his current chararts can just be tweaked to dark brown, since he wasn't mentioned as, say, a pale brown tabby or anything. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 22:31, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Just take the burn tool over the other images and make them darker. Sorry, Wild. =( 22:33, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I understand, if you need to decline this that's cool, but um... how come Bluestar gets all of her alts? 22:53, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Because she has different colors/shades. 23:14, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt.W) ~ Declined
I talked this through with Atelda, and we both agreed she should get one, although we wern't really sure if the dark blue-gray queen in her character pixles were for the COTC mistake, since it didn't match the color, but if that turned out to not be the case and the dark blue gray queen WAS for COTC, we figured this warrior version should still be allowed, because when she was mistakenly described with the stripe on her head, she got one for a warrior and a queen and it was the same cite/reference/page what not I believe. . 22:53, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The blue-gray queen was from COTC, and she was a queen because that was the last rank she was seen in and she already dead then. Cats are shown with the last rank they held when they were alive when they die on the Wiki. She got a warrior and a queen for the dark stripe on her head because she was seen with a dark stripe on her head in the Graystripe Manga, when she was already dead as a queen and in the manga in Crookedstar's Promise, because she had been a warrior then. I don' think that she'd get a warrior alt. for her blue-gray description. I'm going to decline this, but if others have opinions, let them be heard. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 23:01, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Boulder did, did he not? . 23:04, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to point out. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 23:05, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I realized that after I posted. What I meant to say was, from what you said at the end, ''" I don' think that she'd get a warrior alt. for her blue-gray description." ''I have to disagree. Boulder is Silver gray, but he got an alt for being blue-gray in COTC, so why is Silverstream any different at all? . 23:11, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thistle has made a good piont. I too don't see why Blouder gets one and Sliverstream doesn't. 23:15, December 4, 2011 (UTC)