Talk:Jayfeather/Archive 1

Past
I was just wondering, should we change the article's name back to Jaypaw until after Eclipse? I find it would be a spoiler warning to those who haven't read the Erin Hunter chat, and it hasn't happened yet. Icegram 01:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Jaypaw is already a Sharpclaw when he becomes Jay Wing. He just finished coming through the tunnels.

Yes
Yes.


 * I agree. Moving back now. Eu ( Talk! Contribs ) 22:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry
I'm sorry for what I said But I'm a she-cat and can you be more nicer in your messages TiNkErStAr

Jayfeather: Not yet
I'm sure everyone might know this, but just making sure: unlike all the other names, Jaypaw's hasn't changed. So don't move him to Jayfeather. Grocery ( Grocery store, Cart ) 00:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah.On the Harper Collins,I found most of the other names,but at the very last page, Jaypaw doesn't get his name.I am so mad.I thought they would get their names in Outcast,but no.Then Eclipse,they get there names,but not Jaypaw.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 02:32, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, it said the Erins verified Jaypaw's name; Jayfeather. Can I move this page? G B 03:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Lesson: Don't believe everything you see on Wikipedia! Sometimes it could be false, I saw an article that said 1+1=11111111111000000 or something. People joke around on there. They are probably talking about the Erin Hunter chat though. I think it should be moved.-- J K  O  01:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

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Character Art
I love Jay, I could try and do something for him once I get Dawnpaw better. I love him so much!!!! Kaboo08 20:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

I'd be happy to draw a picture of him! Anyone want me to do it? -Warrior♥

Yes!! Jaypaw is THE medicine cat! Kataangforever1 01:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Working on it..Might take awhile, though. -Warrior♥

The image needs to come through Project Character Art as far as I'm aware. The only problems being, there is no medicine cat blank yet as it's still up for approval. I'm pretty sure his image will have to wait for the proper blank to be coloured to P.C.A's standards--Sandy Leader's Den 17:06, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, "kay then. ;) -Warrior♥

I think we need a full med cat image. after all leafpool is not the med cat no more. i would be happy to make the image.Darkmoon25

what happended to jayfeather's pic?! -- ♥Shine star♥  00:53, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, but this is for improving the article, not requesting art --Cheetahflight 00:32, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Relatives
Just because Scourge, Ruby, and Socks had a father that was ginger, it doesn't mean they are related to Firestar, and by extension Jayfeather. Can someone please tell me where they are actually stated as being related? If it is not actually said. It must be removed.Acacia Akiyama 20:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It was said in a chat with one of the Erins that Firestar and Scourge shared the smae father. Which would mean he is related to Ruby and Socks as well, making Jayfeather related to them too. His mother may not be Squirrelflight but he is still related to Firestar through another way. --Skyfeather1995 19:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks for the clarification. I don't know anything about any of the chats. ^^ Would that be mentionable source? The current source for the info it a page in The Rise of Scourge.Acacia Akiyama 20:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

And one last thing on relations. Isn't the family tree now incorrect? Since we know the Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight arn't his parents?Acacia Akiyama 20:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC) The new book Sunrise will tell. I believe it is Leafpool and Crowfeather. These are my suspisions,(ealigle) 1. Leafpool is amber, Crowfeather is black/gray. Jayfeather got his color from Crowfeather and his ancesters, the Windstar 2. Hollyleaf is fast and black, Windstar so he is related to her. 3. Lionblaze got his color from Leafpool and Firestar. 4. Leafpool was getting plump in Sunset. 5. She had her kits outside the hollow. 6. Squirrelflight returned to warriors duties too fast. 7. Her milk didn't come. 8. Jayfeather senced love in Leafpool during his ceromony. 9. Who else would Leafpool trust to take the kits?

Plase add more (Emilyorealigle)

Should we make something that looks like this:

Unknown She-cat - - Unknown tom - - - - - - - Quince |           |                                            |            | Unknown Tom - - Princess   Firestar - - - - - - -Sandstorm |                 |              | Brightheart - - Cloudtail         Squirrelflight   Leafpool - - - Crowfeather |         Whitewing - - Birchfall        | Jayfeather Hollyleaf Lionblaze

-- Malli nois Himatsu's Howl 01:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Wait, If Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight aren't his parents, then how was Tigerstar able to talk to Lionpaw? Kataangforever1 01:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, im not sure i would mention Quince cause then you should mention Scourge etc. Tigerstar talking to Lionblaze wis.. that is a very good point....hm....well, probably like Starclan cats he can talk to whomever he wishes, he just goes with his relatives. Acacia Akiyama 03:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't we change the family tree? it's wrong now....Warrior♥ 17:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * If it's wrong. Fix it ^w^.. Acacia Akiyama 05:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't we make something like this:

Unknown She-cat - - Unknown tom |                                              |                                          Jayfeather Hollyleaf Lionblaze ? It would be more appropiate until Sunrise comes out? Warrior♥ Jayfeather Fan 21:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Fursonas
Shouldn't we get an image for the article?-- BSD Consider yourself struck by an Eclipse!

Sunrise
Sunrise is out? Really? I haven't gotten any notice yet... Acacia Akiyama 00:04, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, come people have seen copies of the book. -Warrior♥


 * I'm curious how now. Oh well if the book is out.... Acacia Akiyama 03:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Sunrise's COVER has been released, and it is NOT out. Info from Sunrise should not be added to the articles except for the ones who appeared in the excerpt. -- Malli nois Himatsu's Howl 12:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

No one really know anymore. Only the COVER is out that we know of.;) ~User:Warrior♥

Rumors
Ok, since people seem to love putting rumors on here. Why don't we make a section for rumors? I've seen it done on some character so people adding it all the time can be less of a problem. It would basically fit in real world reception of some sort. Just a suggestion since we seem to be having a lot of trouble with this.. Acacia Akiyama 00:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This is an encyclopedia, not a rumor roster. Putting rumors on articles is WRONG, and should be put in Forum Namespace. So if you love rumors, then chat away on the forum. --Mallinois The Puppy's Crib The Puppy howled - Ui! 14:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, speaking of rumors, I've heard a lot about Vicky Holmes confirming that Hollyleaf is still alive. On the regular Wikipedia, it says Vicky confirmed she's dead. There's no cited source to either of these, so is it not a rumor? Unless someone can say so otherwise. I hadn't heard anything about it before looking here and Wikipedia, so I'm just asking if anyone knows of it well enough to give a source.  §ροττεδςταr (Talk 04:53, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I've heard that Hollyleaf is alive! And I've heard that Firestar is going to die in the OTS!! By the way, Leopardstar does die in OTC!!! ALL HAIL MISTYSTAR!!! -Moonshadow1013 22:29, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Guys, TAKE THIS TO THE FORUMS!!!!! This place is for discussing how we can improve the article, NOT CHATTING!-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! |undefined 05:06, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Sunrise Updates
Ok, family needs to be fixed, and the info for Sunrise should be put up as soon as possible (I'm only half way through and can't do this yet) anyone who has finished reading should get to this as soon as possible. Thanks Acacia Akiyama 17:39, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

(new person who never used this before) their parents r crowfeather and leafpool

There was an Eirn Hunter interveiw and it clears that Firestar is Scourge's half brother

Grammar!
Someone needs to go fix all this. The grammar is just TERRIBLE. It looks like a preschooler wrote it!Please someone fix it!:( I mean look at this:"When Sol comes to the camp, he idea for to help Cinderpaw with her leg by swimming."Please save this article!ToT--Milkpath 21:22, 29 July 2009 (UTC)Milkpath


 * Also someone really needs to go over the eclipse bit. I have no idea what the wrighter was trying to say. Acacia Akiyama 01:41, September 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Done the Eclipse bit. Brambleclaw14 Talk 08:11, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Someone Spammed this page
I reversed a certain edit because a user changed his family and apprentice names to something random. They said his apprentice name was something kit and his mentor was mentorfur. --Aurorablaze

Family tree
Is putting Crowfeather's family really necassary on Jayfeather's family tree? Nightcloud and Breezepelt should be included, but I don't think we really need Gorsestar, Windstar, Ashfoot, and Eaglekit on there.--Nightfall101 23:14, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

But Ashfoot is his grandmother and Eaglekit was his uncle.--RainXLeaves

Wait...Tigerstar is lion,holly and Jay's kin he's there uncle--Shenzi100 17:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)Shenzi100

That's true--Nightfall101 21:34, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Oh wait...sry 4 putting up the bit about Tigerstar I meant to put it up on another bit --Shenzi100 17:46, November 18, 2009 (UTC)Shenzi100

Socks
I thought Socks was dead? --Shenzi100 15:51, November 19, 2009 (UTC)Shenzi100

It hasn't been comfirmed, but it's pretty likely since they were abandoned by their owners, and didn't seem like they would be very good at surviving on their own. Unless they found a new home of course--Nightfall101 21:21, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Charart
Please refrain from adding to the article. It was NOT approved and thus can't be in an article unless it is approved someday, which is very unlikely. The approved Jayfeather picture is Minnowclaw's apprentice version, which is currently on this page. Thanks, Sparrowsong 21:37, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Article format
Okay, this article has some serious grammar issues--Nightfall101 08:19, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

The fourth apperentice section if kinda long... should we shorten it? --♫SORRIE!♫ <font color="mistyrose" style="background:darkslategray">ITS YOU!!!!!! HAHAHHAHA!!! 00:24, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, we should shorten it.--Snowfeather1 00:37, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blind
If he's blind should the picture be any different? In some of the pics online his eyes are just blue without black or white. I know that's not a reliable source but I feel like that is worth mentioning.Artimas Hunter 22:03, January 25, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

No, because just because he's blind it doesn't mean he has blank eyes (as many fans draw him). If you've seen a blind human, they have regular looking eyes; I think (although I'm just guessing, I actually don't know) that blindness is more about the eyes' connection to the brain than the actual eyes (Unless it's caused by damaged eyes, like Longtail's) so his eyes would look pretty much normal. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  22:06, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I get that. I justt wasn't sure, so many people draw the cats differently! I'm blind in my left eye and it's not blank so i thin k your right. Thanks.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:26, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

name
i know this probably belogs on the forums but it has some truth in it so I thought I'd mention it. i think that Leafpool named Jaypaw Jayfeather in momory of Crowfeather. It make sense! she never let go of him and Jaypaw was his kit. it does make sense right? Also, Bluestar could have named Fireheart, -heart because of Oakheart. I don't know how truthful this is but I think its worth thinking sbout.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:29, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

While that's widely believed and quite possible, I don't think it's enough proof to post on the article. Sorry. :/ <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:30, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

It was confirmed in the 6th Erin Hunter chat that Leafpool named Jayfeather for Crowfeather and Squirrelflight suggested Hollyleaf for Leafpool.Hollytail 23:29, February 12, 2010 (UTC)Hollytail

Ok, i don't keep up with the chats. i'll add it in.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 02:27, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

JAYFEATHER
Ok, to the first person (Not to be rude) you all should leave it like it is. Most people who are reading the series:

A) Hasnt got to know Jayfeather

B) All ready knows his name because everyone talks about him

C) Looks it up in excitement for the name

D) Doesnt have any clue who it is or what he is

E) Has all ready got that far and is on Omen Of The Stars (Like me!!! Im soo excited!!!) :)

Well to the one who says he is a Med. Cat and Sharpclaw, I am happy you mentioned Jay's Wing!!!

I remember when he was becoming a full warrior he thought Please don't name me Jaywing!

Well thats about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~LIONBAZE IS MINE!

TIGERHEART'S MINE! ~ Dawnshine

This is irrelevant to Jayfeather's article. I agree with Moonflight, please take this to the forums. -- 雨 晶須  22:53, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * BACKS AWAY SLOWLY* Ok. I don't what you're trying to say here, but it should be taken to the fourms if it doesn't help the article.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 22:51, May 7, 2010 (UTC)