User talk:Waitingforspring

Help
I was wondering if you could help me with something. On the category "Clanless Cats", somebody typed "Scourge is listed as a rogue click on him and learn what's he's down to the clans and his past...". I do not believe this sentence should be there, correct me if I am wrong though. I tried editing it out, but it would not allow me to edit the page. Why is this? CinderLion 17:06, August 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you, take care.

Boxes
Hey... I'm working on my own wiki, and I'm wondering how to put text in a box. I can't find anything on the Help wiki... Raintalon 22:32, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

How do I put parameters in ? This is for a template on the IPL wiki. The template should be, like, you enter the runs every ball cost, and it prints them, and also prints the total runs. You can find them here. Could you fix it? Lightning talk 12:01, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Problem Report
Got it for you. 22:41, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re: New Releases
Hi Helix and thanks for making those updates. It's very difficult to not be around here for long periods of time but it's good that there are others such as you who are still here making sure everything runs smoothly :) insane  brick'd 00:11, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Project Books - Welcome Back
I can't thank you enough for helping out while I was away and I just wish my internet would work =.= Hopefully I'm going to get it fixed in the next few days *fingers crossed* I'll talk to you soon, have a nice sleep x 19:12, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Question
Hello mentor, I don't quite get what an apprentice does for charart. Can I comment on other chararts? Am I asked to do a charart or can I pick one to change or what? I am confused, please help. Thankyou. Justpeachy Lilacfeather 16:59, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou. ☻ Justpeachy Lilacfeather 21:54, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hello again, I have yet another question. If there is a cat (exzample Dovestar) and he/she was featured as only one rank (leader for dovestar) can you make a charart of that cat as a differant rank? Another question, can you pick any cat you want and change it a little, or only if it needs changes? Thanks Justpeachy Lilacfeather 22:57, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

:D
OK, if you want me to shut up about templates I made, then I will. XD

This one's page name is User:Zorth/Like-or-not.

I used the switch template you had in your tutrial. The full options are (in order):

"No data" is what comes up when someone enters something like "flop". Zor th Highly   Explosive  23:41, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

;) Yeah, I geuss so. I can always change the switch. The fist one reflects my opinions, and my "other thoughts" on Silverstream are

"Hm, I would put her nuetral, but no, she's kinda inbetween." Zor th Highly   Explosive  23:08, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Echostar's Questions
Hey Helix! Sorry I poofed for awhile there. Here are my latest questions:

1. How do you add a category to a user subpage (Idk how to add it for the edited sig policy)?

2. How long does it normally take for WWiki to be up to date when a new book comes out?

Thanks! Echo star  Getting a tan 23:53, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Q
Whenever I sign these days, the date appears in the next line, instead of appearing in the same one. I've examined other signature subpages, and there seems to be no mistake in mine. It's User:Grayravenpaw/Sig. 12:49, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Merci. 05:50, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hey :D
* Is so freakishly insanely sorry for being inactive* The reason for my inactivity can be seen here ;) Okay, for the couple userboxes, I've got a few more here BluexOak is in the Forbidden Couples Section; LionxBlue and CrookedxBlue are in the Fan Shippings sections, and BluexThrush is in the ThunderClan section :) Night  Fall 03:09, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

JayxStick is ready :) It's in the Fan Shippings section Night  Fall 02:12, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Rain
Problem with the Weather userbox, rain parameter. Image not showing up. Early congrats on 5,000 btw. 10:29, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hello
Hello Helix, I think you probably know me as I get around a lot. I hope this doesn't sound too weird or creeper. Lol. :) But, I have been meaning to get to know you for a while. I mean you sound like a really great person, and we both seem to contribute to the same kind of stuff. What I'm saying is, I would like to become friends with you. And, I hope I can hear from you soon. :) 00:08, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I love PC and editing charcter articles, it's my passion. I also just recently got nominated as a senior warrior for PC, which I am very excited about. I do edit to some Book and World articles, though Books more than World. Is it okay if I add you as my friend in my "What I think of Other Users" section, since this seems like a great start to a friendship. :) Feel free to do the same as well. Talk to you soon! =) 17:27, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the advice! Also, congrats on 5,000. When did you become leader of Userboxes, I was just curious. :) 16:16, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Wait... so you started the project back up? Also, you mentioned becoming friends by working together, and the main thing we have in common is userboxes. Is there some place I can look to see which userboxes need to be worked on? Thanks! 16:37, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, that sounds great! I can't wait to start working on the userboxes, it sounds like fun! :) 20:59, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

That would be great! Thanks! =) 18:37, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Editcount
Hey Thanks! The edits add up a lot faster than you think, because it wasn't too long ago when I had just reached 1,000! :D 01:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes! I know what you mean! One of the things I've been doing is going through character articles and seeing what they need to be improved and reporting it on the talk page. I couldn't believe how much I saw that needed work! It's been great though. 12:08, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re: References
That's no problem; I'll try and get the rest today. I did see your referencing template actually so I must be about the only person to ever visit the Community Portal XD I have to admit that I forgot about it when referencing yesterday as I'm so used to just getting on with it - I'll have another look and see if I can manage to use it without breaking any windows ;) The coding is strange but I think it's the inclusion of templates to form the bulk of the page which are in some way fixed in place... at any rate I couldn't do much with it (surprising - not) but as you say, Kitsu has stepped in to help. I saw your draft a while back - you really have a talent for the shadowy boxes XD Quote of the Week is an interesting idea but one that I think will have to wait a little; if we can't even get a feature article up on time then how are we going to manage to coordinate a change once a week?! I'm almost tempted to leave the PB FA up until the end of Sept as it has missed just about the whole of August, even if the new page does get put up sometime this week. Which is annoying because it means we miss a month of pushing PB articles towards gold. Maybe I'm jumping the gun, who knows? I can't help but be impatient over the tiny corner of the wiki we call PB <3 Talking of which... reminds me to talk to someone about getting something done about the Poliy reform whether it's to say, yes - update it, or no - leave it at it is. Even if people would rather leave it the way it is I'd love to know so we can get all those new foreign releases and covers put up and save doing it once then having to rename all the files. /ramble This has turned into a loong message; sorry XD xx 08:35, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Update
Ah, so sorry, I forgot about those. =.= *feels guilty* It's no problem - I felt like doing something different. Talk to you soon =) 11:19, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Draft
I stick my nose in where other people didn't ask for it all the time ;) Means I can't get irritated when people do the same to me. My work on this started yesterday, when the Mainpage refused to bend to Sandy's will as she worked on integrating in the new feature article box that lets all three items be featured. I'll examine your version and see what I can do to incorporate some of your ideas. Unfortunately we simply can't do the items fully across... Unless... Hmm... I shall think on it. You have some good ideas... I'd just have to see if I could actually do them... Just have to check out the mainpage requirements and see if we can ditch the Wikia controls on columns. And the OCD person in me would insist on evening out box sizes ;) But I can be insane (the mental health issue, not the person). It's been driving me nuts that the Mainpage didn't line up properly.

In an effort to actually explain why 100% width boxes might be a problem... Right now the mainpage is split using column controls that I think might be mandatory by Wiki. If they're mandatory, I simply won't be able to have anything cross all the way over the mainpage. I hope they're not mandatory. I really do like certain aspects of your layout better than mine (though I'm already making it a three column thing, mentally)...

As soon as my draft is done, I'll kick it your way for feedback before I take it to the forum for discussion (I figure I'm probably going to make enough changes that community discussion will be needed). 12:59, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Major progress. I found workarounds for the whole column thing, and a workaround to at least limit the ugliness of the ugly square add. Look here. I'd LOVE to hear what you think of the draft that's somewhere between my original and yours. It is pending some graphics (I've put things in as holding patterns, like "Feature Article" repeated over all three, they'll get their own individual graphics). Any suggestions you have for improvements are welcomed! 15:16, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikia dosen't actively MAKE us reserve the space. But if we did just a strait column and ignored it, it would kick everything down below the ugly square and then get the sort of ugly you see here. Just ignore the fact that they haven't removed Wikia's chastisement for not using the column tags. At least this way we get some control over how it makes the page ugly. WoT is just lucky enough to have only the banner ad, and not the fugly box. If it wasn't for the stupid box-ad I'd go with a full width header.
 * I went with three boxes to give fair face time to all three features. and to respect the fact that not everyone cares about all the projects. The mainpage caters less to those who know the wiki and more to those who're looking for something and just finding our community. A newbie just wouldn't know to just refresh to get the feature they wanted. It's the same reason I threw out the tabs, really. Well.. That and the tabs stubborn refusal to dock to the top of something and stop looking both ugly and random.
 * for the BR with Clear, it was also mentioned here in regards to a way to break free of the wikia imposed column structure. 16:24, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sig Colors
Hey Helix, I was wondering if there was some place I could go, to show me all the names of colors I could use for siggys and such. Thanks! :) 21:27, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Helix
I havn't been on in a while and I am probably not gonna be on that often anymore. I think it would be best if I wasn't an apprentice anymore so you can mentor somebody who is going to be on more than I. You have been a great mentor and I thank you for all your help I hope you will a find another apprentice, and thank you again. Justpeachy Lilacfeather 18:03, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Images
Okay, so I've been having some trouble with Leafpool's loner image. In her character pixels, it only shows the oldest image I uploaded. I've been asking a lot of people, so I was wondering if you knew anything about it :D 18:45, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nothing changed D: The only place it doesn't show the most recent version is in her character pixels. No where else. The links you gave me didn't change anything. It's really been annoying me >.< Thanks for your help, though! 18:59, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine :) I asked Bramble, and I'm waiting on her reply. 19:11, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yes, and congratulations on 5,000 edits :) 01:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Helix! I was really shocked when Bramble offered me the position, and still kind of can't believe it :) Oh, and you're welcome :D 12:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Regular help
Hey Helix. :) I was wondering if you could help me with some stuff because your awesome at coding? :P

My user-page, which I spent quite some time on, has those little rectangles that say show or hide. But it won't hide, it automatically just shows up. Could you fix this? I copied off the coding off other user's, such as Insane and Bramble and filled it with my information, but nothing was fixed.

Also, how do you store archives? I plan to do this soon. Thanks. 02:41, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Family Tree
Hi, can you make me a family tree? I've been trying, and all I really ended up with was boxes and random lines, some of which weren't even attached to anything. -.- Oh yeah, there was also a bit of incest. Aaanyways, because of this I'd like you to make me one if you have the time because I saw you helping Echostar and you seemed to know what you were doing. :D Okay, I guess I'm just going to have to explain to you how everyone's related. I'm going to be working my way from the bottom of the tree to the top, mind you. Okay, so Mistpaw(tom) and Dovewing(she-cat) are the kits of Snowstream(she-cat) and unknown(tom). Snowstream has a brother named Splashfur. Splashfur and Snowstream's parents are Mistyfeather(she-cat) and Rainheart(tom), and Mistyfeather has a sister named Tawnypool. Tawnypool and Mistyfeather's parents are Silvermist(she-cat) and Ripplestar(tom), while Rainheart's parents are Morningcloud(she-cat) and Runningcloud(tom).

Thank you so much, 10:45, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow! That was fast! Thank you! 20:18, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Charart Categories
Thank you for pointing that out to me, Helix :) I noticed you doing that on some images, but generally just forgot about it. I will do it from now on =) 13:10, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Charcat template
I was just asking (I have asked Bramble for permission to use it) could you help fix the Charcat template on Warriors Fanon Wiki (also known as Warriors Ultimate Fanon Wiki) sorry to be asking you but it seems to not want to work here is the link if you want to help-Template:Charcat. Sorry if this sounds rude concireding you and Insane made it, and it's ok if you don't want to help :). Rainear   Let the rain guide you  00:59, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Family Tree Request
Also (sorry if I sound demanding or rude) Could you make me a family tree if you want to here is the info-
 * Mother:Dawnfur
 * Father:Streamfoot
 * Me:Rainear
 * Sisters:Lilystem, Iceflower
 * Brothers:Skyfeather, Leopardstep
 * Rainear's Mate:Halfmoon
 * Iceflower's Mate:Redleaf
 * Rainear's Kits: Moonkit, Mosskit, Silverkit

Please and Thanks Rainear   Let the rain guide you  01:20, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Userboxes
Yes, I was up late. =) I took your word for it that an afternoon nap would be nice, and it turned into an eight-hour long nap that lasted until 10:30 pm, at which point I woke up and stayed up until about 2:30 am, and then fell asleep again. ;) Anyhow, I've glanced at the talk page and everything seems to be in order, with general consensus on a maintenance phase. I would post a notice on the talk page letting passersby know that the Project is not active and what that entails, as well as changing the current phase section on the main Project page. Whatever you'd like to do in your maintenance phase, such as update existing userboxes if needed, improving upon them, changing a category, etc, make sure you let the Project members know what they'll be allowed to do in that time. That's really all up to you. If you need further assistance or if I completely muddled that answer and you need a clearer one, zap me a message on the talk page. =) -- 03:36, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Userbox Project
I've never actually closed a project. What I would suggest is the maintenance phase to finish up details, and then changing the status to "Closed" and couple that with moving everyone involved, except a leader and deputy, to supporter status. The page for the project should be retained, definitely. and chances are that eventually more maintainance, ect will be needed to the userboxes. A header at the top explaining clear (on both project page and project talk page) that the project will not accept new userboxes for the for-seeable future. Other than that... Playing it by ear seems to be the thing to do. 18:41, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re: PB
Thanks! Yes, you might need to point some stuff out to me for a week or two. :) But, I think I'll get the hang of it eventually. :D Thanks Again! 20:35, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the compliments, I love this wiki and try very hard to make it the best it can be. And yes, I am aware of the Featured Article, by the way is the summary on Kitsu's drafting board for Code of the Clans going to be used or is that just an example, because I wrote a different one just in case. Also, thank you for apologizing for the discussion of PB, I have to admit I was a little upset when you said that, but I am glad we have worked it out. :) The faulty archiving was a mistake on my part, because of my annoying computer. -_- Anyway, thanks and I hope that we can work together to keep the project running! :) 15:38, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

The summary there is basically just what I wrote, so we might as well stay with that one. Also, how was your trip, I'm glad to see you back! =) 15:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Would you want to get on the IRC, if you have some free time? It would be great to talk to you. 16:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Which channel? I don't see you on the main one. 16:42, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Userpage
I really love the way you sorted out your userpage, may you please tell me how to make my userpage neat like yours? I'd also like to add a few sections to my userpage. Thanks! 10:24, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Referencing
I come from the Citation School of "More is Better". But I write essays and research things related to my website all the time here. And a lot of times I don't want the short version, I want the exact wordings. So I like citations of major situations to be included so that I can find a specific event quicker. There really is, in histories, a fine line to walk. Every line shouldn't be cited, but every key event (a codebreaking, a death, ect) really should be. And this is in addition to the standard citations for proving anything that might be debatable, ect..

World style-guides are going to be finicky to write, definitely. But they also contain information that more people use in a research fashion, and I think writing with that perspective in mind could be important. While project characters caters to a more casual userbase, project world caters to users more like me who are looking for facts and a deeper understanding of the world.

As for actually creating the style-guides... I'll suggest to you the method I would use to do it. First, I'd write up a draft containing what I think it should be. And then I'd con a few select people who I think have good, thought out opinions for a first round of changes. Then I'd take it into general discussion to see what the general populace things. And then the obvious final step, the vote/discussion/consensus-reaching for making it policy.

13:05, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Adopt a User
Hah, thanks! Yeah, I'd love if you'd be my mentor. I know just about the basics now, but I might have a few questions to ask you every so often. Thanks for the offer, ⓔⓒⓗⓞ I'm raisin the bar 22:23, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Woops
See? Yeah, I'm still learning. And thanks. I knew that there was something kind of.. odd about it. Well, I hope it's not too bad if I keep it up for a day or two more because I really don't have the time to change it now. ⓔⓒⓗⓞ I'm raisin the bar 22:54, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Help
Hey, Helix... I created a wolf Roleplaying Wiki, and it's still sort of a mess. I could use your help when it comes to templates and that sort of stuffz. So could you just at LEAST swing by and see if it's worth coming too, and try to help? I'd really appreciate it. The link is here: http://wolfrpg.wikia.com/wiki/Wolf_Roleplaying_Wiki  Thanks in advance,  Earth  bender Tawny Style! 20:07, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I can't figure this out...
I cannot figure out how to delete my topic. (which i understand why you said to delete it, sry, i'm new here.) If you can, could you for me?

Question
Hey. It's my first personal question to you as an apprentice.. how do you make color on your user pages? (btw im still working on my new siggie) ⓔⓒⓗⓞ I'm raisin the bar, I shoot for the moon, but I'm too busy gazin at stars.. 20:36, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yay! How do you like my new siggie? Echo Leaf-fall.. 22:11, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks(: i was gonna do the little bubble thing again but just make my quote shorter, but I always get bored of old stuff.. but, sorry, I kinda just meant in general. Like, your page is all purple-y themed, and I was just wondering. I don't quite have any real specific plans yet.. Echo Leaf-fall.. 23:49, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense.. I get it. So it's kind of similar to siggie codes, no?

Thanks for helping anywayy(: Echo Leaf-fall.. 20:32, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Book Covers
Hey Helix! Yes, I haven't been able to talk to you for a while, and I hope we can soon. :) Thank you, and I am very happy to lead PC, and I hope I can keep the project moving forward. :)

As for the tagging, please feel free to help. I will try to tag some files this evening, but I don't know if I will get time. The template idea sounds good, so if you figure out something please show me.

I was thinking about the featured article last night in fact, and I was thinking the same thing as you, we might as well keep Code of the Clans up through Octtober and just make sure that we get the discussions started early enough to have them ready for November. Hopefully by then, things will be back to normal and we can get back into a routine schedule.

Anyways, thanks for notifying me about tagging and congragulating me about PC. Also, thanks for all the hard work you put in for PB, I really appreciate it! :) See you later! 16:40, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I would love to see a draft if you have something set up, as it sounds very useful. Yes, I am glad to have you helping with PB a lot, but don't feel like you need to withdraw your offer with PW, don't think that PB needs more of your time, because I think you would make a great leader of PW. Either way, I would be glad to have you around PB and would love to hear some of your ideas, as I am sure they are great. For talking on the IRC, ususually any time I am editing on the wikia, I will be on the IRC, and I would love to talk to you again! See you later! 21:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, that sounds good, and I am sure you can remain active with both projects as they both could use your help. :) About the renaming, that was a mistake on my part and I apologize about that. I wasn't paying very well attention. :)

About updating the policy, I will notfiy the admins and put something about it on the project. :) Also, thanks for wishing me happy birthday, it is on Sat., but honestly, I don't care. ;) See you later! 02:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Random.
My last collapsible box (labeled Userboxes) shrinks towards the left when you open it. I know I'm being like REALLY really picky, but I'm really annoyed at that for some reason. xD Could you make it stand 'still'? 01:19, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re: You're getting there
Haha, too right. If I really wanted to I could do that right now... but alas, I somehow cannot be bothered. I'd rather let it fall naturally. We'll see. xx Sweet dreams 20:36, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Helix. I would love it if you would mentor me. Willowstripe 15:35, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Great
Great! I am now your apprentice. Willowstripe 18:19, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Inserting images
Thanks a ton, Helice. =) I was working from school due to the fact I finished early in programming class, and I had time to approve them but no time to add them. Anyhow, thank you! I've renamed all the ones that need to be renamed, I believe. -- 21:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Template
Hey Helix! :) We haven't been able to talk again because of stupid time-zones. :( Anyways, I hope I can talk to you tommorow!

I came to talk you about a few things but the main one is, some template issues. For PC, a leader ceremony template is needed. I tried to create it, mainly from copying off the Ceremony template, but I failed. XD I was wondering if you could help me out, but I would rather speak to you about it in person. Maybe tommorow? Would you be able to be on tommorow around 3 or 4, during the afternoon. That would be in the morning for me, so I would be available. I could tell you more about the template then.

Also, I was looking at your user page, and the headings really caught my eye. I noticed it was a template you had created and I was wondering if I could use it on my user page? If you don't want me to, that's okay.

I hope I will see you tommorow! :D 22:46, October 1, 2010 (UTC)