Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Spottedleaf-For Approval
This is Spottedleaf!!Please tell me how to make her better!!Shim-Shim ★ 22:05, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I like this alot! :D Just darken the shading on the bottem of the herbs a bit more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

The one thing that's realy bothering me is her tail - it looks striped. :\ -- Quiet !...

She looks to... blurry. -- Darkhallows Lair 04:19, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Her tail is suppose to be a brown TABBY tail.Shim-Shim ★ 17:20, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Darn it, her description is WAY too long for me to remember correctly. >w< -- Quiet !... 19:51, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I think her tail is supposed to be white tipped. I agree her description is rather complacated. --Spottedwing 01:56, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

where does it say that she has a white tipped tail?Shim-Shim ★ 17:05, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

My bad. You were right, it's black tipped. By the way I love the image. I see nothing wrong. Hope it gets approved. --Spottedwing 18:02, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

She's like my favourite character!!nice job!!!ღ Şũήמy ღ 18:10, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Love the image, but I do think you blurred her alot and with the shading you could lighten it up some on the paws. They so close to gray, that they should atleast give some closeness to white. On her back I can't really tell if you gave her any shading at all.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 21:49, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Shimmer, you haven't worked on this in almost 2 weeks. Please work on her soon or she'll have to be declined. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:58, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

sorry please don't decline her i just had tons of homework so i couldn't work on her.Shim-Shim ★ 16:23, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-tell me is anything is wrong with her.oh and really sorry i stopped working on her.Shim-Shim ★ 16:33, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Ummmmm, looks good by me.Minnowclaw 01:46, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good by me except she looks… chalky, is the only word I have for it. Try blurring everything on the pelt (except the lineart, and don’t distort the image). We’ll see how it looks then. -- Bramble -san  02:41, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I know I don't have any power, but this hasn't been worked on in almost a week. -- Rain whisker 09 21:38, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Blackclaw: The picture was reuploaded on September 20, and there was nothing said about what to edit on the picture until the 24th. It's only been a few days. Shimmersong: The shading on the belly and paws is still heavy for being white fur. Otherwise, aside from that and what Bramble said, Spottedleaf looks great! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:06, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Ok then. And I would prefer it if you called me Rainwhisker or Rain. -- Rain whisker 09 13:27, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, sorry, Rain. Shimmersong, there's a bright line of ginger on the front leg that looks irregular, it needs darkened, or blurred. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:45, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

It's been almost a week. --Rainwhisker 09 22:18, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined after 24 hours. -- Bramble -san  02:29, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Loner Blanks - For Approval


(M) - I did more of a Melonlemon-style with these blanks and I'm pretty happy with the way they turned out. I also made an example (The shading might be in the wrong places though.)



Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

These are great! Give the muzzle a bit more of a stop and the ears look weird... but I really like them. - Darkhallows Lair 22:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

this looks really good Mosswhisker! but since they're loners ,wouldn't the fur be a bit scruffier?-- ☆Darkkeh☆ uh...hi 22:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

For some reason the head looks a bit small to me... but they look great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 23:35, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Mosswhisker... you're amazing at making blanks! There are only a few things that I can say about these. Firstly, the neck looks a bit too thin, almost pinched, maybe you could make it a bit thicker. Also, I think there should be a bit more definition between the neck and the foreleg, it looks a little too smooth to me. These are incredible, though! ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 23:39, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks guys! I'll change them tomorrow, after school. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 00:03, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Okay! I changed the muzzles so they have a stop, fixed the foreleg, and fixed the neck. (All I did was shorten it, and I think that helped.) I also didn't know what was wrong with the ears, but I did make them less pointy. I didn't change the fur because it's pretty scruffy as it is, and Loners wouldn't be a scruffy as Roughes. I didn't change the head size becuase when I inceased in by a mear 2 pixles, it looked waaay to big. I also got rid of the gray lines on the longhaireds. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:35, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

The ears look a little small. Can you make them a bit bigger? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:19, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

The toes on their paws look a little weird... could you change them? -- Rain whisker 09 20:22, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Changed the toes and (even though it's hard to see) widened the ears. I also changed the shape of two of the paws a bit. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:55, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think there great. I just think that the eyes are a little small. Other then that I hope they get approved before long. --Spottedwing 02:05, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know..the eyebrows look awkward?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think the whiskers are a little short. But they're great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 12:05, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'll fix these tomorrow. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:55, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few things - Don't get me wrong - i think that these are good, and I know that you've put a lot of effort into them. I'm just trying to help. -- Dawnfeather talk! 06:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * The legs are all different lengths. Tey get longer and longer towards the right of the image. The front paw which is bent in the action of walking should be shorter than the others, (because it is bent and therefore not at it's full length) but at the mkoment it is too long.
 * The body is slanted downwards (towards the front of the cat) This may look okay as you finish up the image without being adjusted, but you can have a go at making it more evn if you want to.
 * The ears looks to thin. Don't change the height right now, but have a look at the ears. Also, the back one should probably be on the other side. maybe just fiddle around a bit.
 * The muzzle - it just looks weird to me, no offense. Lots of it is out of proportion and place just within that small space. Open up an approved blank and these, and carefully chck the face, moving around the pixels until they look similar-ish.

(M) - I fixed zeh whiskers. I didn't change the eyes because I couldn't get them to look right, and I don't know what you mean by "eyebrows".
 * Thanks Dawn! I'll fix those things tomorrow. (I'm suffering from chronic lazyness right now.) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  21:52, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Lol, sorry Moss. I thought the whiskers were eyes, and the eyes were eyebrows.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:46, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the whiskers should be a bit far apart. That's why they looked like eyes to me. (no offense)–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:28, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the paws and the ears. I'll fix the rest soon. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:12, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like their far rear leg goes through the pelt.*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:48, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't know how to word it, so thank you, Swallowtip. ;) Otherwise, these look great!  Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:19, September 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * The hind legs are kind of overlapping, if you know what I mean...–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:11, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the legs and the whiskers. I can't get the muzzles to look right Dawn; could you maybe make me a diagram? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:05, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - What else do I need to fix besides the muzzles? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Their hind end looks slightly higher than their font; like they're coming down from a hill. Balance those out, and also make the hind paw that's lifted curl slightly outwards, if you know what that means. It'll look more natural. -- Bramble -san  23:03, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Could you move the eyes and whiskers down a few pixels? And maybe make the eyes a little bigger.-- Darkhallows My den 23:45, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

there is a line on their leg hind leg that is driving me nuts.Minnowclaw 01:45, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

The longhairs fur-tufts seem to go a little too far down the legs.-- Darkhallows My den 05:00, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'm going to work on these this weekend. (School has eaten my free time and is using my relaxation as a toothick. >_< ) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  19:34, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - See, I'm not dead! xP I fixed the tufts, moved the eyes and whiskers back a few pixles, and fixed the bodies so they're leveled out (Dawnfeather actually commented on this, and then I completely forgot to fix it, which shows just how much I pay attention. -_-;;; ) I tried to fix the eyes, but then they looked too big. Sorry! Also, that line is the haunch, and I didn't know how to curve the paw back; could you explain that a little more Bramble? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:16, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Well, kind of like this little guy here See how his back paw sort of curves backward, because he just took it off the ground? -- Bramble -san  22:22, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Lovely, mossy. But on the short-hairs, on the back of the paws there no claw like the long-hairs... And there's really something btohering me about the eyes... There really, really small...--Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 18:57, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thank you Bramble; wonderful pic! I fixed the paws. Warrior♥, I should have the changes you mentioned fixed by Thursday. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Birchstar (RC)for approval
My first leader and my first tabby. Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:42, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Here are a few things: It mostly just needs shading. The ear pink looks fine, and so does most of the tabby stripes. Otherwise, I think it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:16, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Needs shading. If it's there, I can't see it.
 * The nose pink is too bright, it's more of a hot pink rather than just a pink. Try to lighten it some. But from the pictures I was looking at on Google images, brown cats tend to have either brown or black noses, depending on whether they're multi-colored. Try changing it to just a lighter shade of brown from the color of the fur.

The tabby stipes need to be longer in most cases and more varied. Add shading and blend it well. Lighten the nose pink. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:34, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Redid the image. Made the tabby stripes longer, fixed nose and ear pink, and added shading. Is there anything else? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Still needs thicker and darker shading. Then blend it for natural transitions. As for the stripes - make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:36, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

What do you meen by regular?--<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:27, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

um... regular. i'll try and think of another way to describe it lol. bear with me. Make the different lengths, shapes and sizes. That would make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:29, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Made the tabby stripes longer and darker. Added more shading. I really don't know what to think of it. Is it better? Worse? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the tabby stripes a bit more.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 01:39, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Also, more shading is needed. Thicken it slightly and then blend. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to her as soon as I can. My life has been busy since school started, so I'll try to get to her during the weekend. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 16:14, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thickened the shading and the tabby stripes. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 19:33, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 17:28, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Your tabby stripes are too few and far between. They also are too thick and they all look alike. Put in some more and vary their length and look; I know warriors are a different pose but you can look at the approved tabbies for reference if there are no leader tabbies approved. Your shading also needs to be increased, slightly thickened, and the transition then needs to be blended thoroughly. -- Bramble -san  23:00, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Redid the tabby stripes. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:03, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I like them now.Minnowclaw 01:40, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading and blend it in.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:46, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Added shading on her left side and I blended it in as much as I could. How does she look? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:49, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - She needs some shading under her chin. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:39, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 18:53, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Move it up so it's right against the chin line. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't really liking the neck shading, so I blended it in more. How does she look? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:37, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading.Minnowclaw 00:58, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to her as soon as I can. It's homecoming week and its making me busy. Please don't decline. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:32, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Molepelt (MC) For Approval


My first image. Criticism welcome. Also, I'm not going to be on much these days, so please do not decline this.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:53, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think the ear pink is to big, and maybe to dark fur? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:07, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

yES LIGHTEN THE FUR TO MAKE TO MAKE THE EYE STAND OUT (Oops caps)--Stonestar 14:37, September 13, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Lighten the herbs and perhaps make them more of a green colour - I'm not sure a medicine cats is likely to use withered plants... Lighten the fur a little and make sure to add a pupil and highlight into the eye. Look at some approved images for reference. The ineart is blurred and there is colour outside of it in places. When you've sorted that, then we'll talk shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:47, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better? I tried adding the pupil, but I don't know if it's right.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 06:21, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think this is a lot more good, I can see the whiskers now :) I'm not sure but I think the eye colour sould be more big? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:43, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Meaning?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:45, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've not done a medcat, so I'm not sure if the eye can be biger or not :/ but I mean I can't see the pupil but maybe if you did more colour in the eye you could make the pupil biger, (sorry I'm so bad at spelling) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:06, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, wait a bit.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:13, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Anything else? Sandy, how much shading is needed?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:41, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

perhaps make the eye colour brighter--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 04:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Needs a highlight in the eye. Just put a white pixel on the left side of the pupil. -- Rain whisker  12:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:47, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading a lot more, and also, look at Brambleclaw's deputy charart, for example, to see how the eye needs to be done. Otherwise, it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:20, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:35, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thin the shading out a bit and make sure it extends all the way down his back. Also, can you use the dodge tool (um... the one that looks like a circle on a stick) to add a highlight to the top of the herbs. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:03, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. What else? Impatience is the new life,(lol) so how much time does it take for an average image to be approved? I've uploaded this around 10 times. Do not take this statement very seriously.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:35, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

'Patience is a virtue' - I forget who said that. It takes as long as it takes. That's better but now to the same with the other shading on the chest and hindleg curve and then blend! blend! blend! Careful not to smudge the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:32, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Lolz. Impatience is the new life is the punchline of an internet company.. Reuploaded. Did the same to the chest and the hind leg. –– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 07:13, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is good but move the hind leg curve shading closer to the leg.Minnowclaw 01:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:36, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Go back and blur it.Minnowclaw 00:57, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. –– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:48, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, so sorry for not commenting Lightning (I'm a rubbish mentor at the moment - same goes for you Hawkey - I'll try and be around more). As for the image, there are just a few things that need sorting. Make the ear pink ore triagular and definitely a darker colour as he's a black cat and the ear pink shouldn't show up so much. Look at some approved black cats for reference (I'd reccomend Nightcloud, Whitethroat, oh there are loads now!) Then you need to work on the shading a bit more. It looks like you've used the smudge tool - try and make sure the consistency of the shading is the same all over and then blend the edges carefully towards the middle of the pelt a bit with the blur tool. Be careful again not to hit the lineart. One last little thig - the eye is very bright green, could you possibly find a slightly more leafy green? Something not so similar to the herbs perhaps. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:50, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Rowanstar - for approval
*Makes note to lay of patched cats*<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:39, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Add some more shading, blur it and add some highlights too if you already haven't! Otherwise, it looks.........alright. -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Proud Owner of a Imaginary Panda! 00:21, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

He Looks awesome. All I can see is maybe add some highlights? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 00:43, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

HIGHLIGHTS AREN'T MANDATORY! Pandasong, the shading is blended to the best of my ability.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 01:34, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Highlights are not necessary, that is true. A shaded cat without highlights is both simple and approvable. Swallow, you just need to blend the transition between your patches, darken the ear pink and make it less smudgy, and that's about it. He looks very nice. -- Bramble My Realm 02:35, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just take the patch on his chest and connect it with the other brown patch on his leg; it looks a little unatural right now. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:06, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded made the ear pink darker and redder, connected the patches and blended to the best of my ability without it looking smudged.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 16:01, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - It looks great! Just add shading to the bottem of his tail and this should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:55, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is that better?<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 22:03, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Much better. All he needs now is you need to blend that patch right near his mouth, because it's just hard line where the transition is, and make the ear pink a more dark pink color than purple. Also, on his right (our right) ear, move the ear pink inside the ear a bit more, and make it more triangular. -- Bramble My Realm 01:53, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry that I haven't been on much. I think my latin teacher likes it when we fail.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 03:46, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Lol, I know what you mean. I think this is ready. Comments before approval in 24 hours? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:38, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

^_^ The changes I mentioned above still need to be made. Then it should be ready. -- Bramble -san  19:12, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Oh, Sorry! I didn't relize she hadn't uploaded a new file when she posted that. @_@ Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  20:10, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Lol Moss. It's fine. Yes, though, Swallow, you forgot to upload the new image on the 26. :) -- Bramble -san  20:18, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot. Better now?

Make the ear pink this color: and make it a more fine triangular shape, keeping it inside the ear. On the right ear especially, you can that the ear pink has gone out of the ear and onto the temple area. -- Bramble -san  00:05, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Storm Clouds at Dusk(PH) - For Approval
He is a prey hunter with the tribe, so I thought he deserved some acknowledgement for it. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 05:32, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

There is a grey line at the bottom on the left that needs to be removed. Other than that, this looks great! One thing though: on the other prey hunters mud streaks have bene included - does he need them? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:02, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I thought that Stormfur was a cave guard. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 16:15, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'm with spottedwing on this. I'll get outcast and dawn so I can check.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 16:32, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedwing is right. In Outcast, during the scene that Jayfeather saw, Stormfur was teaching the other cave-guards fighting techniques. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 16:50, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I just read that too. Will this be declined becuase that would be a real pity.Minnowclaw 16:53, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

You're all right! Stupid me... I didn't even notice my mind was so full of other things. They're right Dawn; he was a cave-guard. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:50, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Wait. I found another prey hunter with a simalar discription. Storm Clouds at Dusk. I love this image and I think it's too good to be declined. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 19:25, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'm with Spottedwing. What do you say dawn? Do you want to make this Storm Clouds at Dusk?Minnowclaw 21:42, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I probably will, but just quickly - he was teaching the cave guards, but that doesn't mean he was one of them. I thought that because he joined the Tribe to be with Brook and all of his time there before offically becomeing one of them had been spent with Brook, being trained in Prey-Hunter-ness, that he had become a prey hunter (if that makes any sense) I mean, we know he had training in hunting, but I never saw him getting training in Cave-guarding. If no-one agrees with me, I will change him though. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 00:38, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Actually - I have made some Cave-Guard blanks which I will put up at my next chance, so I'll just make this Storm Clouds at Dusk. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 04:12, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah - forgot about the line. Fixed the line, and by some random miracle, it finally let me make it transparent. So I made it transparent. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 04:16, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Beautiful Sandy Dawn! Just add some mud streaks in the fur and it should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:04, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, this is Dawn's image (which I'd be more than happy to take credit for!) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:49, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Yea, that's why I shouldn't try posting until my brain's working properly again. xP Sorry Dawn! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:58, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

It's okay. You made me laugh. (Rodd and Todd in background - yyaaayyyyy!)(lolololol). Added mud streaks, comments, critism? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 21:16, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Did you reupload yet? The image looks the same. -- Bramble My Realm 21:52, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah... it seems I forgot. Well I've done it now! :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 22:16, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! In the allegiances of Eclipse, Stormfur is listed as a prey-hunter. -- Rain whisker 09 22:37, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

This could probably be either, their descriptions are identical. The mud streaks need to be blurred in, Dawn. -- Bramble ’-san'  21:11, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Rainwhisker: This should stay as Storm because I have a reference. Page 52 outcast, Brook says, "I was a prey hunter and Stormfur was a cave guard. Dawn: Beautiful! Not really much, but blur the mud streaks like bramble said.Minnowclaw 23:21, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

OK then never mind. Sorry! Must've been a typo in the allegiances. -- Rain whisker 09 23:46, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Note: I am unwell and cannot edit images at this point in time :( Please do not decline, I will hopefully be able to edit before I go away next week (I should be better by then). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 23:35, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Rainwhisker: I know, I see a lot of them becuase they editors don't get the names. Dawn: Like I said, get well soon!Minnowclaw 01:31, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks everyone! I'm better now and I've lurreed the mud streaks. what does you all think? (I will be going away tomorrow, but I doubt that we will buy portable internet, even though I am taking my laptop with me. Talk to you all on Saturday!) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 09:48, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Looks great! Comments before approval in 24 hours? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:01, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

I still think the mud streaks look too even. Try making them more... well i don't know the word but make it more... man I still dont know the word (lol). Well I guess more uneven I guess. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 05:02, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Birchfall(A) for approval


He's back!!!!!!!!!!!any thing to improve?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 01:00, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Add shading under the chin. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:39, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

His stripes are strangely thin and are all the same. Try changing some to make them less regular- add some 'y' shaped ones or some more curved ones and thicken them all. I use a size 9 paintbrush for tabby stripes and they seem to work quite well. Perhaps a size 5 for an apprentice; experiment a little. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:03, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 22:40, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, tabby stripes, and shading just a tad.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:48, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading.Minnowclaw 00:56, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 01:24, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Redtail(kit)-for approval


I had a lot of fun making this image and it was a bit difficult to make him look just like my deputy image, but I think he is close enough. Here's Redtail as a Redkit when seen in Bluestar's Prophecy. One of my first kits since I hardly have any experience with them, but I want to get around to trying.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 18:53, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good, Shim. Just blend the shading on top of his head (transition line), and maybe take out the white on his muzzle... it sort of looks like he has a beard. Blur the patches as well. -- Bramble My Realm 21:49, September 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll work on him as soon as I get home. Bramble, I really don't want to take the white off his muzzle though because on his deputy image, I gave him a white muzzle. It would just seem odd to me for it to seem like it just appeared as he became older. Unlike when cats get older their fur does start turning gray...-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 17:06, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Try making the white more like Bluestar's leader image to make it look less like a beard. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:06, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Beard? Wow, I'm disagreeing a lot today. I don't think it looks bad at all, but I guess majority rules.Minnowclaw 00:55, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Mothwing for approval


I know it might be a little bad so please help me make her better.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">ღ Şũήמy ღ 22:06, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Not bad at all. She's a dappled golden tabby, right? That's what I see here, and she's very good. She just needs some more shading. On her back, legs, chest, and head, just run the burn tool (about 50%, on midtones, if you know what that means) along those areas and she'll be good. -- Bramble ’-san'  22:09, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Wow this is ver ygood Hiddensun. But, like Brambel said, it needs more shading. Also the herbs looks really darkly shaded, could you lighten 'em up a bit? <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 22:17, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Wait Bramble everyone here uses 50% on midtones? Wow, Iv'e bbeen doing it on highlights since I got here o_O. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 22:18, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about everyone, but I find it keeps the shading texture able to make the original color darker without adding in gray. You can use whatever one you want. :) -- Bramble -san  22:49, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I use midtones as i find highlights hard to blend on pixlr ^_^ Not everyone does though I'm sure. It's not a rule, just good advice for someone who hasn't done shading before. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:45, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ok thank you!!i hope itstake a while to fix her because i am way busy with school.<font color="#ff1493" face="Matura MT Script Capitals">ღҢĺđďệИŜυήღ <font color="#ee82ee" face="Lucida Calligraphy">The Eclipse... 20:34, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

I absolutely love this. It's probably the most beautiful charart I've ever seen! All I see is that you need to add more shading on her body, and that the shading on the herbs is too dark. Also, there seems to be some white pixels at the top of the herbs? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 01:03, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

She's really pretty, but I don't think cats are so bright. Perhaps run her over with the burn tool a few times?-- Darkhallows My den 05:37, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Is there a pupil? If it's there I can't see it. Could just be my computer. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:12, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) I can see a pupil, but what I can't see is any shading. I also agree that the color should be darker. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:49, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

She looks almost neon. You need to make her darker.Minnowclaw 00:53, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Make her more golden opposed to yellow Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:23, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Willowshine (MC) - For Approval


Well, I'm still not that great on tabbies, but I really wanted to try a medicine cat, and I couldn't seem to have much luck at finding one who wasn't a tabby. So, how does she look? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:50, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

SHe's really dark, I amagined her lighter. Kinda like Feathertails color. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:57, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. She should be light enough now. What about the tabby stripes? Do they look okay? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:34, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes look fine, but wasn't she like a silver color? I'll check.Minnowclaw 01:23, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Her page says dark gray and the book says gray. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:01, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, in that case, darken the shading a bit.Minnowclaw 20:31, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened the shading. How does it look now? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:37, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the body and blend it. Also, add some more shading to the bottom of the herbs.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, darkened the shading. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:28, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I feel bad becuase I haven't commented on this in days. Sorry Icethroat. With the pic, I love it. This should be approved.Minnowclaw 00:52, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

It's okay, Minnowclaw. :) I've been meaning to ask, is it just mr, or does the shape of the ear pink look strange? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:59, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I know it looks odd, but that is if this was on a real cat, some of it would be covered up with hair. So that's probably why it looks odd, but it's good.Minnowclaw 23:41, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

It's almost there, you just need to work on the shading, especially the line going from between the forelegs to connect with the back shading- this looks really obvious and thin at the moment. Try thickening it slightly towards the back and blending it more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:22, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried to blur the shading, but it still doesn't look right... Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:36, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Foxwhisker- For Approval
My first ginger cat. I hope I made the color right! Comments?  HA WK FI RE98  01:16, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

It's very good, but make the color a bit redder. Also thin the shading.Minnowclaw 01:17, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Better?  HA WK FI RE98  13:14, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Darken your shading; I can barely see it. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:07, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

It seems like you just ran over him in random spots with the dodge tool...blur them in more or atleast in the correct spots.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 17:04, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a lot.Minnowclaw 00:50, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Oakpaw (A) - For Approval
Right I'm not sure what to think of this :/ Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:20, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Let's start with the first thing: shading. The shading on his isn't enough. I have a guide on my page, so you can check that out.-- Darkhallows My den 05:40, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

is it on your user page? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:43, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yup! I just put it up there. You don't need to shade in that style, though. It's just what I find easiest.-- Darkhallows My den 05:54, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I think the sgading is to dark?? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 06:00, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Right is this good?? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 06:18, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I know whats not right I'm not doing the shadeing right I'm going it Right soon Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:38, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Blend all the darker patches more.Minnowclaw 01:14, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Silly, me! This is oakpaw of Shadowclan right? The darker parts must be shading. My bad. He's very good otherwise, but I'll have something for you when the shading is redone.Minnowclaw 01:19, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

yep he is a Shadowclan cat "_" and they are shading. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:51, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

here he is. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Wait on his page it said he is form the other clan?? but it don't say he as dark patchs? :/ Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:52, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by dark patches, but for the image, add some shading on his back and head and blur the ear pink a bit more.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:54, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

huh? Put shading on his back? the sun is form the back :/ if a should then a will. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 14:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then, but if the sun's coming from the back, you should probably add some highlights there with the dodge tool. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 18:39, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I don't have to make Highlights do I? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:12, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

No you don't have to. Sometimes it's better with and sometimes without. Why not give it a try and if you don't like it keep it how it is.Minnowclaw 23:39, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Pinestar - for approval


i haven't uploaded in a long time. Well here it is: <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 00:40, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! This is great! But you might want to blur the ear pink a bit more. -- Rain whisker 09 00:54, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading on the belly more and do what Blackclaw said.Minnowclaw 01:13, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Blender belly shading, ear pink, and I fogot to add neck shading the first time, so I added it here. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 01:38, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe thin the neck shading a bit - it looks too thick.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:55, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I echo echo, (lol!)Minnowclaw 00:44, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I am woeking on this, so please don't decline yet. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:52, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Goldenflower (E) - For Approval
I always felt sorry for Goldenflower. First her brother (Lionheart) dies, then her son (Swiftpaw) dies, then her other brother (Snowkit) dies, then her mother (Speckletail) dies...and on top of all that, her mate was Tigerstar! Poor, poor cat. Anyway, does the image look good? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 20:05, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

All I see is that the shading needs to be thickened and blended. Otherwise, she looks great!-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 23:17, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 02:50, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Very pretty. :) Just darken her ear pink a bit. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  18:35, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

I echo what Mosswhisker says.Minnowclaw 00:44, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Scratch (R) ~ For Approval


OMG, HE SUCKS. >_> My first tabby (hopefully). Did I blur too much or something? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:24, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Hold on... I blured some lineart... -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:25, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

There. Comments, Suggestions, etc.? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:32, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I'm new to tabbys but I think more stripes on his/her back? and on our left ear the pink should be more in the mid of the ear. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:02, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

On his page, it says that he is a dark ginger tabby - maybe darken his pelt color a little?-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Is this just my computer or is he yellow?Minnowclaw 18:43, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

(takes a deep, calm breath) He’s not a tabby. His article descript was wrong. It’s not your fault, it t’s the people who put the false descriptions up on the article, but in the way of preparedness, find a book reference on the description before you make it; don’t assume the article’s always correct. -- Bramble -san  20:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I thought it also said he was a tabby in Firestar's Quest? Oh well. So, I would make him just dark ginger? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 00:32, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Correct. You know, if you can find a book ref that says he's tabby, I'd be happy to let you keep him that way. In the allegiances, though, it says he's a dark ginger tom. -- Bramble -san  04:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Alrighty. ;) I'll work on him. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 22:30, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Beechfur - for approval


Well, another minor character... comments? <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 16:01, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink more pink.Minnowclaw 18:39, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Sandwich, pick a file name, like Beechfur.warrior, and reupload on that name every time. Don’t make a new file every time you update, like beechfur1, Beechfur2, Beechfur3… etc. It saves a lot of space. And makes my job a lot easier. :) -- Bramble -san  20:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yes I am currently working on this but I have alot of things in life right now, so I will try at this maybe tonight or tommmorow. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:51, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

seedpelt - for approval
Not much to say, what do you think?Minnowclaw 02:59, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

The fleck under the ear pink looks a little unatural. Other then that I think it's gorgus. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:26, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Could you make the flecks different sizes and shapes? Right now they all seem to be the same size and completely circular. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:46, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Is this better?Minnowclaw 21:47, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Do what Spottedwing said. Then she's good to go. -- Bramble -san  02:03, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I think the shading takes up too much of the pelt... it alost looks like her actual colour. Can you thin the shading and/or add a highlight to the chest area and hind leg curve. Use the dodge tool if you decide to add a highlight and blend well. I'll repeat for emphasis as this seems to be a problem at the moment ''the highlights aren't necessary but coud enhance the image. Alternatively just work on the shading'' =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:19, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Cedarstar (Le)- For Approval
-- Darkhallows My den 10:20, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Oh my word, Shady! It's so beautiful I nearly cried. Only things, the ear pink looks white, and not pink. And the tail shading is too dark. Fix those and he will be ready!  HA WK FI RE98  12:49, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - *Dies from an overdoseage of pure AWESOMENESS* Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  21:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

You guys are too nice xD. I changed it.-- Darkhallows My den 11:31, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - The nose needs to be the same color of the ear pink. Then he'll be good to go. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:59, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

The tail is still to dark and I for one think that the shading on his chest makes him look white. Trying going over it with the burn tool.Minnowclaw 00:41, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Well, his belly is supposed to be white, but not his chest. -- Bramble -san  12:11, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I thought it meant chest too? Should I change it? Anyway, the tail shading is as dark as the leg shading.. I like it that way?-- Darkhallows My den 03:44, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

I think you should bring the white belly down more, so it's closer to the belly.Minnowclaw 23:33, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q) - For Approval
I made her about 1-2 months ago and just now had a chance to put her up. That's why she's probably not as good as some of my other images; I think it's the shading or something. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 21:48, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I changed the shading. Is it better now? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 22:01, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Georgus. The only thing I can see is there is some blured lineart near the tail. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:13, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see it...could you circle it? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 22:16, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing looks very pretty, Sparrowsong, but in the shading on her hind leg, there's a dark spot that needs to be blended like the rest of the shading. The blurred lineart is close to the dark spot. Otherwise, great job! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Thin the shading on the tail and hind leg.Minnowclaw 00:40, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

You only need shading on the underside of the tail (the side closest to the body) at the moment you have it in a line going round which looks strange. Also, on the hind leg curve, get rid of the shading on the bottom bit as again it looks odd. Look at Willowpelt's queen version if you need a good example as Bramble did an excellent job with the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:12, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Brokenstar - For Approval


The first major villain we saw asides Tigerstar. I went with a new tabby marking style. Constructments? -- Bramble -san  22:17, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Very good. But his ears need to be torn, his muzzle needs to have scars on it, and his tail needs to be broken!  HA WK FI RE98  22:20, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

I looked through Into the Wild, which is the only time he's known as a leader, and I saw nothing about scars nor torn ears. Provide a page number and I will change it. On the tail, how do you suggest I make it bent? A diagram would be appreciated. -- Bramble -san  22:35, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

It mentions his broken tail somewhere in Secrets of the Clans...I think it mentions it in BP, but I can't remember at the moment. But in Secrets of the Clans, when Yellowfang named him after her broken heart, the other queen remarked that his name was Brokenkit because of his broken tail. (In other words, for page number, go to Yellowfang's story in SotC. It'll be somewhere in there.) Hawkfire, his ears being torn and the scars on his muzzle are when he was prisoner in the ThunderClan camp. (I think.)

For bending the tail...I'm not sure. Maybe putting a curve, or a couple of jagged lines in the lineart, and moving the rest. Also, there's a couple of white pixels in the lineart on the tail that need colored in black. (or brown with the tail) I love the tabby stripes! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)



(M) - Here's a diagram on...how to break his tail. O.O I just used the leader lineart because it was easier than using the colored version. And yes, you can use this exact lineart for your picture if you want. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 00:58, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, Bramble, correct me if I'm wrong, but it says "bent in the middle like a broken branch." I've always imagined it in a straight line, and not curved. No offense Moss, but that tail needs to be a more bent. (P.S.:I love the tabby marking style. Can it be used for all striped tabbies?)With due respect, –– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 05:46, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Grayraven, it is bent in the middle. It can't be a sharp right angle; it would look highly unnatural. I changed his tail (thank you, Moss). How does it look?

As for the tabby marks, it has been said before that they look cartoonish and unofficial. I find I disagree with Kitsufox on this point; they look more professional to me than the y marks (though those are perfectly fine as well). So yes; these can be used, but it is also acceptable to use the y markings. -- Bramble -san  17:45, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - It looks great! I could make the tail bend sharper, but like Bramble said, it would look unatural, plus his long fur would make it look pretty smooth either way. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:26, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There's a small white speck on his left (our right) paw. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:58, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. -- Bramble -san  23:48, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

I still see it.Minnowclaw 23:32, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

It isn't there now. -- Bramble -san  01:41, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Looks perfect to me. Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Barley (R) - for approval


This is Barley as a cat in BloodClan, and my first character art. I don't care if it looks great, this is sort of a practice anyways. Anything to improve?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  03:47, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

It needs shading (the burn tool should be good for that), the black patch on his belly needs to be bigger, as there needs to be a balance between the black and white, and his eye needs a white pixel. Also, his ear pink needs to be blurred. Right now, it looks circular, and it needs to look triangular-ish, like the shape of the ear. Otherwise this it good for your first charart! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 13:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Barley is long furred.Minnowclaw 14:30, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

You sure? It just says he's a black and white cat. I'll make the changes, though.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  20:25, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  21:02, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

It's not long haired and yes i'm sure he's long haired. Ravenpaw is a short haired and if you look at any of the mangas where they are shown together, Barley has longer, thicker fur.Minnowclaw 23:46, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

To change him to long haired, you have to change blanks. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:04, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Barley is now a longhair.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  03:40, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Better. Try to make the patches more irregular.Minnowclaw 23:30, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:23, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Leopardfoot (A) - For Approval
Well...I saw that Leopardfoot's only image was a kit, so I figured I'd make her an apprentice charart. Her page said green eyes, but her kit charart had blue eyes...should I change the eye color? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:31, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job, but she looks a tad dark. Maybe dodge her over one time. ANd she's sopposed to be really shiny... so maybe try a little highlight, but if you can't, that's fine. Really good, Icy.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 18:54, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks, Warrior! Is this bright enough? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:02, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I think this is fine. But I would change the eye color to blue becuase I made her as a kit and I put her with blue eyes since we didn't know her eye color. Unless of course, someone has a page.Minnowclaw 23:29, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, changed the eye color. How does it look now? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:55, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Actually her eyes are green look in the Allegiances Bluestar's Prophecy.--Stonestar 11:15, October 1, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

All the shading needs to be thicker as it's barely noticable. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:06, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changed the eye color back to green, and thickened the shading. How's it look now? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:05, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Mothpelt - For Approval
I'm listening to opera. Don't ask. And I'm back to WWiki.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 20:08, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this looks very pretty! The only thing I can say is that the highlights in the middle of the fur look...webby, if you get what I mean. (sorry, I couldn't find a better word than webby.) Otherwise, this looks great! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:38, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Add more black.Minnowclaw 23:27, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the tail. But, otherwise, this is great!--Hawktalon 19:26, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, opening GIMP. :D PS> I use GIMP instead of Pixlr now. :)--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 19:53, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Stormfur (Ki) - For Approval
Now that my first image has been approved, I've put up another one. It's Stormfur as a kit this time! How does he look?--Hawktalon 20:22, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Awwww, he's so cute! I think you should thin the shading on the tail, our left and the neck. Otherwise, this is great!Minnowclaw 23:26, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I thinned his neck, tail, and left body shading. Minnowclaw, did you mean the left side of his body, or the whole left side of the image?--Hawktalon 19:21, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks - for approval


My first blanks! I'm pretty happy with the way they look. I made an example, Rusty, and I didn't have any problems with it. The only issue is their tiny size - does anyone know how to make them bigger without completely re-doing them?-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 23:39, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

These are good! You need to make them bigger so that it will be easier to draw. Also, with the tuffs of fur on their feet, it looks like they're on high heels.Minnowclaw 23:44, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Echo, but Mosswhisker had these on her current projects long before you did. They do look pretty good, maybe you can turn them into something else and put them up. I would hate for them to go to waste. If so, just change the name on this section and put for approval in place of declined. -- Bramble -san  01:50, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe they could be Kits? then the size is all right. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:49, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

What kind of kits? We already have kit blanks. How about ancients? Increase the size maybe...–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:27, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Stupid me, I didn't see Mosswhisker's reservation. >.< I changed them to sharpclaw blanks and got rid of the collars. Also, how do you make their size bigger without doing them over? Frankly, I have no idea... -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 12:40, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Kitypet kits :) But they are Shatpclaws now Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:19, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

We're only having one set of kit blanks as all kits look the same. My first reaction to these is that they look very scrawny, especially on the legs. Thicken them up a bit and give them some strong sharpclaw muscles! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:05, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I think the backs look too....... flat <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:22, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)