Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

=Images Pending Approval= Please use this section to put images up for approval only.

Dark Whiskers (SC) - For Approval


The key word is blur. The shading and highlights must be blurred together to make the pelt smooth and not blotchy. Use the smudge tool and the blur tool together, do whatever you can to make it a blend of light and dark, and not patches of light on a dark pelt. Everything else looks fine, Shaf. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (K) - For Approval


Take the smudge tool to it. Make the stripes look like faint feathers brushing the pelt, using the images on Creekfeather for reference. The shading needs to be less blocked, and more subtle like shadow. You may even have to completely redo. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy (Alt. Queen) - For Approval


Shade the strip of white on her back, where the shading ends. If the background is transparent, the shading should have no effect on the background. I see nothing else wrong. Nice job, Elorisa. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the back. 22:26, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I color-picked this, and it needs to be a very very light gray/silver. (barely white) Yours is completely white, change that, but other that and the other stated, it looks good. 22:28, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sagepaw (A)- For Approval


Blur all shading thoroughly, particularly that on the haunch. Other than that, very nice, Dovesong12. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! Blur the tail shading and the shading on the back. -- 20:31, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnstripe (Q) ~ For Approval


Setting 24 hours before approval. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the stripes could be a tad bit more noticible. Nice job otherwise! 03:34, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Pouncetail (Alt. A) - For Approval


Setting 24 hours before approval. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I can hardly see the shading and highlights. Umm, add more of them, I guess. 22:02, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I can see the shading that they have, but I think that they should add a bit more, like down onto his bottom, and shade his tail. Then blur the shading and highlights. 00:07, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. A) - For Approval


Blur so that the pelt is smoothed, and not blotchy. Use the blur tool and smudge tool, whatever you can, to smooth out the patches of light and dark so it all runs together smoothly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Macgyver (W) - For Approval


All the patch transitions and ear pink must be blurred. Shading needs to be added; use the burn tool to add shading along the back, chest, tail, legs and head. You may want to withdraw this and work with our art tutorials on your own, to learn about shading, before you continue to work on this. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks very unnatural. Try using a different, less neon shade, and blur it as well. -- 20:22, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall~alt.Kit~


Ear pink desperately needs to be blurred; take care not to blur the lineart. Make the pink color fade into the gray, so it is not popping out. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Background also needs to be transparent. 03:35, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

ok i'll get right on itMaplepool 23:00, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

There is one pixel that you are missing; on the back foot. 22:50, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that? Maplepool 23:01, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

oh i see a mistake allow me to fix it before you comment on it^^ Maplepool 23:07, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ok NOW you may comment Maplepool 23:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png there is an extra period there. Darken the shading, make the ear pink more reddish, darken the nose colour-- 04:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darkstripe (Alt. W) - For Approval


Much too dark. Lighten the entire image, and then blur/smudge to smooth the highlights together with the entire pelt, so it blends together and takes the appearance of a natural pelt. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Minnowtail (Alt.Ki)


Add some shading and blur thoroughly, so the pelt is smooth. Darken and soften the ear pink, so it does not stand out so much. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Alt. Kit)-For Approval


There is blurred lineart around the yees, which needs to be fixed. The shading on the kit's left side is too thick; lighten some of it in the center and blur the rest, to make the pelt look smoother. The kit also looks cross-eyed; make the pupils in the same position in both eyes. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. '''I completely redid the image because my previous one was so terrible XD. I've fixed the eyes, shading, and pupil location. Thanks, Bramble! ^_^ -- 20:17, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading into oblivion xD 22:07, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Shrewtooth (KP)~ For Approval


Setting 24 hours before approval. 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think the pelt color is way too dark. The lineart can't be seen, and the image looks like a silhouette with yellow eyes floating in it, if you know what I mean. X) -- 20:25, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Lighten it a bit more, and there is some blurred/smudged line-art near the tail. 20:27, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded- Matched his shade to the warrior image. 23:43, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Renewing 24 hours. -- 02:46, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) - For Approval


Either lighten the shading on the back or get rid of the highlight next to it by darkening it. Then blur thoroughly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sunstar (Alt.D) - For Approval


Ear pink is too dark and desaturated. Use Firestar's ear color, and see how that works. There is also a white pixel on the chest fur, near the top. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Are the changes showing? 03:36, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Earpink is too big. It's almost out of the lineart; try making it smaller. 03:37, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Made it smaller. 03:39, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and I also blurred the little orange outline. 03:49, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I still think there is something going on with the ear pink. Also, the lineart near the part of the tail nearest to the rear looks slightly blurred. -- 20:30, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

There is no blurred line-art there. Could you be more specific on what is wrong with the ear-pink? :) 20:31, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure? I guess I described the area wrong. Here:



I've drawn an arrow to the blurred spot. It's okay if you don't see it; maybe it's just me. :) Also, for the ear pink, could you make it a tad lighter? It's sorta hard to see it. ^_^ -- 20:45, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 20:52, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

That's better. :) Looks good. -- 20:59, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink is still all weird... There's a section that seems to be cut out from the original and stuck further up the ear, if that makes sense. 21:44, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 22:01, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the haunch, midriff, muzzle and forhead shading. Other than that it's beautiful. 22:06, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Mosspool if Bramble didn't decline it this should be ok. Blur the earpink a tiny bit. 22:36, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 22:41, November 23, 2010 (UTC)'''

Sweetpaw (Alt. Kit) - For Approval


Return the lineart to its original color on the face; it has been paled. We'll see how it looks after that. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 04:48, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Fantastic. All I see is that the mottled spots could be darkened a tad. And the ear pink could also be darkened. 22:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:40, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

It sorta looks like the ear pink in the right ear is darker than the ear pink in the left ear. Can you fix that? If not, looks great! -- 02:48, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the right ear is darker because of the shading. 05:37, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Cora (W) - For Approval


Lighten the entire image and blur thoroughly to get rid of the pixel-y texture. Everything else looks fine. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I can do that. Be back soon! 00:03, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mapleshade (W) - For Approval
Yeah, laugh it up, it's terrible. Bring on the comments! Let me guess, the orange is too bright? You know what, there really is an advantage to staying up late! XD 05:46, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches together more. This looks great!-- 06:15, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

As Nightshine said, blur the patches; right now they look too separated. This is fantastic! -- 20:19, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

The gray/black splotches look...kinda un-natural somehow. Maybe change the pattern, instead of keeping it as the dip and hill thing. XD Nice name I gave it, eh? 20:23, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

http://calicocat.info/calico-cat/calico-cat-1.jpg I sorta referenced off this cat. I want it to look like this. . . I love her pattern. I don't know. . . . xD I guess I can try and change it a bit, yeah. 21:53, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, Dovesong. All I see that the shading ion the black transistion should be darkened, and all the patches should be evenly blurred together. Other than that, it's marvelous. 22:02, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and, like everyone else said, the transitions. Good job :) 22:04, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm re-doing a lot of it XD I found a copy with better shading, I guess I re-did and forgot about it, and also I think Frostheart is right about the patches so I'm changing them completely XD 22:08, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

VERY good but blur the patches like said they seem very um ah unreal to meal blur them that should fix it other than that its awesome Maplepool 23:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy (Alt. Queen) - For Approval
So many things wrong with this charart...This is my first one for the project! 07:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the patch on the forehead a bit thinner, and darken the shading. Great image, cuz! 07:43, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable. 15:12, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. It's barely visible. -- 20:50, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

~Reuploaded~ 23:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ear-pink can still be slightly darker, other then that it's really good.★ ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ ★ 01:54, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the ear-pink is still un-noticeable. Shouldn't you color in the nose? 04:27, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

~Reuploaded~ 05:45, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Dewkit (Kit)- For Approval
Yeah.. this is my first Charart so, comments?★ ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ ★ 00:36, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Either make the highlights thinner or thicken the shading. 00:46, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

It looks nice, but the ear pink is too large, and she looks very bluish, but she was only described as gray, so maybe make her, umm, grayer? XD 01:19, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.★ ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ ★ 02:27, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more and make the ear pink more reddish. Thicken the shading as well. -- 02:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Fernshade (W) - For Approval
Comments?-- 02:23, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is a bit brown, and could you blur the splotches a TAD more? Not a lot, or else it will ruin the awesomeness. XD 02:34, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Looks amazing! Darken the tail shading toward the tip. (Or dodge the tail a bit more; I'm not sure which you should try.) -- 02:43, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened tail shading, blurred splotches a bit more, changed ear pink-- 03:04, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sparrowfeather (W) - For Approval
Here she is! Not so sure about the mottling... comments? 03:02, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I love it. :D Could you darken the shading, though? 03:02, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Can you also darken the ear pink and blur it? Darken the scars as well-- 03:05, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Fixed shading. 03:05, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Darkened and blurred earpink, darkened scars. 03:08, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more. I love the mottle :) 03:12, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink more still. Maybe change the colour to be more reddish. Can you also make the scars a deeper colour? They're a bit hard to see-- 03:57, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! Make the scars more red, and darken the shading/brighten the highlights. 05:39, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Darkened shading, scars, and earpink. 12:13, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oblivion, this is stunning! All I see is that you should add some shading on the scars. 13:03, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Palefoot (W) - For Approval
Comments? Rain breath  14:05, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Sunstar – Alternative Needed?
Sorry Frosty, but I still really don't think we need this image as ginger and orange are the same colour. 05:56, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Like I said before, orange and ginger are the same colour and I really don't think we need an image for this. 21:55, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Either way. . . orange and ginger are the same colour. . . if you are all so sure that there is some difference and know that we do need to make an alternate for this, then tell me and I'll listen to you! But right now I'm not seeing any reason to make one. 01:07, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I moved this to a different section; trying out some new things. =) I'll try to answer you, Dovesong. When we first came out with Sunstar's description, all we had to go on was his description on page 22 in Secrets of the Clans; a tabby tom with yellow stripes, green eyes, and long fur. We had no idea he was ginger until Bluestar's Prophecy, I believe, which is when he was noted as bright ginger. We'd already made him sort of a pale cream color with yellow stripes; if you look at his current art there is nothing bright ginger about it. If we make him a separate leader image plus the deputy image, without the tabby stripes and a very bright orange, there is a major difference. What do you think of this? If you disagree, please state your reasons and we'll try to get to a conclusion. -- 01:46, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think he needs an alternate from the simple fact that his current deputy image and the alternate image look nothing alike. 01:51, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I should vote here, since..I'm the one who made the image? XD But I would not put up an alt image if I do not think that it deserves it. I do think that we should do both the alt. leader and deputy image, since being a tabby is different from being a 'plain' cat. XD 02:03, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Uhh, if you didn't know that when we made the images then shouldn't we just tweak his current images rather than making new ones? We didn't know, but we do now, and when we learn something new about a character's appearance we usually tweak it rather than making new ones. And also, they aren't always going to say a character's entire appearance, sometimes just part of it, so they may not always describe Sunstar as a tabby, maybe just orange. We wouldn't make an alt for Jayfeather because he was described as an undersized tabby apprentice once, rather than an undersized gray tabby apprentice. You know what I mean? Unless he was described as solid ginger. Then it's understandable. Ha ha, Frostheart, I'm pretty sure you're allowed to have a say in this xD 02:12, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

His current description appears to be bright ginger, with no mention of tabby stripes. Screw cat genes for a moment; assume he is solid orange because it is not stated otherwise. If we keep his two original images and just add in alternates, they would be very different. I do not think we should completely disregard the description of tabby with yellow stripes from Secrets of the Clans, because that book is official as well. In the case of Jayfeather, you added a color but kept the tabby; in the case of Sunstar, you have stripe color and then a different solid pelt color. Yellow stripes on a bright ginger pelt is going to look hideously strange. =) -- 02:36, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

You have a point there, sir. So now either he is some really weird looking bright orange cat with yellow stripes or just has been described two ways. I guess, with that in mind, having alternates would indeed make sense. Except I would make the brigter tabby-less ones his official image since Sunstar had a bigger part in BP, like what we did with Mosskit. What do you say? 03:29, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I would just like to point out that he was mentioned as bright ginger in Code of the Clans, not Bluestar's Prophecy, and only as deputy. 03:35, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, he was seen as bright ginger as a leader too. I am re-reading BP, but I just passed the cite, like..50 pages ago? XD I'll try to find it. 03:57, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Join?
Hi! Can I join the Project? Thanks! 04:51, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to the project! I've added you as an apprentice. Please take a look at the guidelines before reserving and posting a charart. If you have any trouble making your images look at the tutorials for help. I hope you enjoy this project =)-- 06:20, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Can I Join?
Hi, can I join the PCA?★ ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ ★ 12:25, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Of course. Welcome to the project, Rainwhisper! You'll see a helpful list of links on the project page, and you can always seek help by other experienced users. They'll be more than glad to help you! Meanwhile, I'll add you as an apprentice on the page. Thank you for your interest in joining us! 22:01, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks:)★ ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ ★ 22:20, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Moonleaf - Join Request
May I join the PCA? :) ★Moon  leaf★  18:22, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Of course you can join! Soon a senior warrior, deputy, or our leader will add you as an apprentice. Welcome to the project! :) Scarletwind 22:12, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, Moonleaf! I'll add you in now. I suggest looking at the guidelines and some tutorials before you get started. Welcome to the project! 01:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

PtEЯO&gt;-Join request
May I join project character art?

I have contributed to this wiki before but I would like to contribute with art as well as words

PtEЯO&gt; 19:09, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'll add you in now. I suggest looking at the guidelines and some tutorials before you get started. Welcome to the project! 01:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maplefrost - Join request
I have been wating anxiously for the 23rd :D so I could join. I am EXTREMELY interested in joining Project Charart. Thanks! Maple  frost!   19:43, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Of course, Maplefrost! I'll add you in now. I suggest looking at the guidelines and some tutorials before you get started. Welcome to the project! 01:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Hello Guys . ..
Hey guys, I'm so sorry I have been inactive, I recently adopted the poor fledgling Wicked Wiki and I've been so busy with life in general. . . well, I'm in a musical, I have Beta Club, Knowledge Bowl, loads of homework, and I've taken to writing.

So I am taking an indefinite leave of absence from here until I can contribute to this Wiki properly.

So sorry guys. 01:28, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darn
I made a charart for Dewkit and already uploaded it here but I didn't realize Rainwhisper made one too o.o I have no idea what to do. This is my charart: ★Moon leaf★  01:54, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh sorry, you can do a charart for her brother or sister instead. By the way how do you get your name onto the Current Projects chart? I tried to do it but I kept messing it up.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 02:15, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

This should help: link. Now, Moonleaf, I would recommend reading those guidelines so you don't make errors in the future. As Rainwhisper is already doing Dewkit, then you cannot do her as well. It is considered impolite to put up the same piece of artwork that another is already doing. I've removed that image. I also need to ask you to remove the image from your signature; if you read our signature policy you'll see that they are not permitted. After reading the guidelines, if you still have questions please ask. -- 02:19, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, sure. ★Moon leaf★  02:24, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

So do you just copy and paste it onto domewhere on the chart, or do you have to do something else?<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 02:25, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

There, I tweaked my sig so it doesn't show the image -> ★Moon  leaf★  02:27, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Rainwhisper; I am assuming you can place your name in alphabetical order with the others. Other than that, there is nothing else significant that you have to do to get your name there. -- 02:44, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I know how to do that, it's just I don't know how to make it in-line with the other users' names. Whenever I try it, my user always comes out on the side of the chart. I feel so lost XD<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 03:03, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Daisytail (Q) - For Approval
Wow...I can't believe it! My first charart here in a LONG time. I'm not so good with patched cats...oh well. Comments?  HA WK FI RE98  15:07, November 24, 2010 (UTC)