Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Marshstar (L) - For Approval
Here he is! Wild fire  20:46, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Darken the shading a bit, make the ear pink fill the ear, define the scar on the haunch. Darken the nose colour as well. Night shine  20:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail and the haunch on the left (my left.). Looks good! :) 21:01, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  21:11, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking my advice oh and make the scars on the right front paw longer and possibly a scar on the tail Sandstormrocks32 21:40, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add a touch of shading by the edges of the inner ear to make it look a little less flat, sharpen the scar on his flank, darken the shading under the chin and add shading the under part of the tail. Scarlet wind Step into the Light 01:24, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You don't necessarily need to add shading on the earpink, but smudge the pelt colour into it with the smallest brush possible. He doesn't have a scar on his tail, so you don't need to add one. Blur the shading and darken it a bit. 03:46, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the bottom of the haunch closest to us. Apart from that, it looks pretty good!- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 07:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  19:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear oink then I belive it should be ready 22:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  22:35, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading :) 20:07, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 22:01, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:29, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the bottom of the scarred haunch still needs a tad more blurring.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 01:07, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

And the shading on the chest. 01:16, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:43, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

The nose is gray... 00:42, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

The nose should be gray. Blur the haunch shading and smudge the pelt colour into the ear. 01:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. The haunch scar too. Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think the eyes need some shading as well. 00:28, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

blur the tail shading. 00:32, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Wild  fire  01:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the face highlight.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 07:06, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  01:13, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

On the hind leg the shading looks odd, so smudge or blur that just a little. Also you could darken the scar on the hind leg. Darken the eye color and this will be perfect. Good job At  el  da  02:15, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the bottom of the un-scarred front leg. The haunch highlight could do with some blurring/smudging, too. This is cool. I think it should get approved in not too long.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 09:23, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt colour into the ear, and add some depth in the eye by darkening the bottom pixels. 00:22, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink 12:54, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took the earpink from the deputy charart so I'm going to leave that Wild  fire  15:07, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, especially on the haunch. 19:59, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the middle of the tail, the scarred front leg, and scarred haunch. Those three problems mess it up quite a bit, especially haunch light. Go pretty much blur crazy there. This looks good, apart from my suggestions.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 23:51, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, and smudge the earpink into the ear a bit. 22:44, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  22:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Either lighten the whole thing, or darken the highlights and shading. 14:22, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 22:18, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:11, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is wonderful, I see nothing wrong. 01:19, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch. 02:24, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on the tail a little 03:27, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you could shade the area where his haunches meet his left leg and his chest between his legs, since those areas are likely shadowed by his legs. :) Fawngaze 23:33, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  15:17, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading and the shading on his front left leg (his left :3). 18:34, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bit on the haunch. 82.42.59.123 19:13, June 14, 2011 (UTC) (Dovewing145 not signed in)

Blur the shading. Sorry, I know it was said, but I can't help it! :D 19:34, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the scars. ~ Mis teh ~ Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:11, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch. 06:56, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

The red is where you need to blur where the highlights meet the base pelt color/shading. The green is where you need to darken/add shading. 17:53, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

More highlights on the face 00:17, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. His left hanuch shading really needs to be blurred. Oher than that I like this :3 20:54, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 15:17, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes 67.237.233.17 02:23, June 26, 2011 (UTC) (Wildfire not logged in)

Reuploaded Sorry I haven't been on Wild  fire  20:33, June 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * points at picture* Errrrrmm.... Blurr the haunch aaaannd..Tats all I got xP --

Smudge the ear pink some more. 18:50, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add more shading. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  16:58, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading a ton. 02:24, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone with Gimp please blur the haunch Wild  fire  00:05, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

I blurred it. Add shading and a pixel of white for shine to the eyes. -- 00:40, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blacken the eye lineart and blur the highlight on the tail.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:24, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 18:05, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Especially the shading on the haunch. 18:26, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading on the eye. 19:38, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:02, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Use the apprentice tutorials to see how leaders are supposed to be shaded. If you have added shading, darken it. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  17:58, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:01, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading more. 16:52, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can't blur it anymore. Wild fire  22:01, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? 22:51, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the back. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:57, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink more. 13:46, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

The chest and haunch highlights look like dots; make them larger. You might want to see Nightshine's tutorial on how to do shading on leaders. 21:41, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  00:29, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

The two scars on the leg are thinner when compared to the others. Are they supposed to be like that?

Yes, I think so. Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  17:36, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the shading on the haunch a bit more and I think this'll be good! Great job! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:23, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  21:19, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink into the ear more. 23:52, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  16:02, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! One thing, the haunch highlights look...a tiny bit blotchy. Try blurring them a little bit more. =) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  01:07, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Nobody reserved it so I thought I could do it. But I messed up the torn ear. Sandstormrocks32 16:53, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, not bad, needs some work;


 * 1) one make him more golden colored, like his aperentice image is, this is more a horrid yellow-green


 * 1) number two

You might want to copy the red line that was done for his image that was up before this one;

copy the colors for it too


 * 1) three

Darken and blue the earpink some more and make it smaller. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 18:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks but it might take a while becuase I'm trying to replicate it. So it might take a while but i am working on it. Sandstormrocks32 18:31, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Almost done... 21:30, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Darken the shading, and lighten the earpink. Blur the stripes as well. 22:18, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

(and smudge if you want) Wild  fire  22:27, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured the striped as I could 22:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this Tigerheart.warrior.alt. 22:40, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes more evenly and either add more or make the current ones thicker. Desaturate the earpink. 23:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I did as much as possible but it was really hard to make the stripes thicker and blur the stripes but I did my very best 23:09, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded i made the stripes bigger and i changed the ear pink. I hope the changes show! 02:01, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Run over the stripes with the smudge tool to give them a sort of "point". Darken the belly/legs. 20:00, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Make the earpink smaller. 22:00, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded When I reupoad my computer says I have to rename it and I can't do anything about it so I keep having to change the name in someway. 22:47, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Well, you can still upload it onto the same image and keep the same name on the wiki file, even if you rename the file on your computer. 22:50, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded The shading was driving me crazy! But i still have to change the name. I don't know what to do. And it's when I'm inserting the picture. 23:46, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">CBA?! 75.72.59.54 02:08, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The stripes look kinda pasty and the highlights don't go through them. It's like the stripe is over the highlight. Stretch the highlight down the tail rather than leaving it on the tip and darken the shading. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:28, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">MUCH better, blur the pink a tad, do what Scarlet said, and whoever said CBA, that is for the leads to do, not so random person, to do. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 08:16, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">okay 1.go over highlights again and 2.to Reupload the charart you click on it then you click on the little box thing in the bottom right corner then you scroll past the two pictures of your cat and click on 'Upload a new version of this file' and find it on your computer Wild  fire  11:45, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The stripes need highlights/shading too. 21:53, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded @Wildfire I clicked modify and I had to do the same thing 22:58, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Its too light. Are you sure you copied the colors from the apprentice alt? 23:40, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I got it from the red line one but I'll darken it right now

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded Sorry ^ that ^ was me. I darken the whole thing now 00:10, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Now the stripes don't have shading. 00:14, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I put some more hightlights and shading 00:19, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the highlights some more, darken the shading a tad, and blur the stripes. 01:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes and the shoulder and face highlight. This looks great, Sandstormrocks.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Could someone blur it on GIMP for me please? (Sandstormrocks32 not signed in)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I would blur it for you, but I don't have GIMP. 20:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I can help you. Imma talk to you on our userpages. 22:25, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I blured as much as i could but could somebody blur on GIMP please? But I did darken just a little bit. 22:48, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Ok reuploaded for you. I blurred the stripes, some of the shading, got rid of some misplaced pixils, and erased the waste around the erased part of the ear. Hope I helped :) 23:00, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Darken the highlights, darken the shading (I can't really see any) darken the stripes a bit and define them. Night shine  23:18, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Make the ear pink smaller. 00:33, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Looks much better with the highlights and stripes blurred. Blur the shading on the bottom of the tail, and make the earpink a tad smaller, as Squirrelflame advised. Blur shading on the front paw closest to us. This is awesome! :)- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:54, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">OMG! It looks awesome! Darken the shading. 11:24, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I'm having the worst time ever with reuploading! :( 20:52, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The highlights are still too bright. It makes him look shiny. Also, darken the shading a bit more. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:54, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reoploaded I fixed the reuploading problem 23:33, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes and make the shoulder highlight more oval-shaped. 01:59, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded  02:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur and darken the highlights. 20:20, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded Never mind I'm still having trouble with reuploading 22:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">From above. What do you mean you clicked modify? Wild fire  18:12, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this 'Tigerheart.warrior.alt' 19:19, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">@Rainlegs Sandstorm is having a problem w/ reuploading I'm trying to help. you can join in on her talk page if you have any suggistions. Wild fire  21:24, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I fixed all the misplaced colors and stuff. @ Wildfire thanks for the help with reuploading the problem is now fixed 00:40, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this Tigerheart.warrior Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 03:45, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Correction, name this Tigerheart.warrior.alt, As Rainlegs stated before =) 20:32, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The highlights are too light; darken them a bit, and the highlights look kind of greenish on the face... 22:40, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I don't know how to rename it. Is it possible for somebody else to change the name? Oh and when I press backspace it makes me go back to the previous page 23:12, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Upload the same file, then name it "Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png". Then replace the old image with the new image. That's how you rename it. 00:45, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and make sure to put the "delete" tag on it saying it's a duplicate and an admin will get rid of it. 01:35, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks kind of blotchy. 20:28, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to change the name but I dont think it's wroking too well 22:41, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pale, center it, and blur it. Add shading. Blur the stripes. The highlights are too bright and need to be blurred. And there is blurred lineart on the right foreleg. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  02:01, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the tip Mintstarr. I also fixed the other misplaced pixils 23:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Better. Try to blur where the highlights meet the actual pelt color and/or darken them. :) 02:51, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured as much as I could and i darkened the highlights 14:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job!! You might just want to blur the earpink a bit more, and darken the legs that aren't in front. At el  da  00:52, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did that and I don't think the way Wildfire told me how to do it isn't woking too well... It keeps reuploading the same picture. Is anybody having the same problem? 01:42, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I am, too. Just upload it twice everytime you need to reupload it, and tell people that the correct image is the one under the 'current' one on the file page. 02:43, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't understand like, half of that but I'll try to do that next time. 03:13, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights are way too light, they look kind of greenish. 00:37, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I did what Rainlegs said to do, and It worked but it's not showing and I reuploaded it like 3 time and it didn't work. But it is under the "current" one on the file page. 00:57, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the entire thing. The colors don't match the apprentice pic anymore. Also darken the shading, and sharpen the stripes around the shoulder/neck area. And MAYBE get rid of the highlights, as it still makes him likke a bit too shiny, but that's up to you. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:50, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

And the earpink is kind of blotchy, fix that. 22:17, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded To dark? I don't know what I was doing... So comments? 22:54, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is still blotchy; And the highlights are still too light and too small. 23:00, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I sort of got rid of the hightlights becuase they were making him look grennish. And I ended up re-doing the ear pink and. 00:11, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The changes don't seem to be showing... 00:18, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, he is brown make him golden Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 08:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Does he look better now? 21:15, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful! Blur the tabby markings, please. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 21:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks really blotchy, though. Define and redden and blur it. 23:36, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's under the current one on the file page. Just to let you know...

Hmm...the shading in the back needs to be blurred a bit more...or if there are highlights right next to the shading...the different shades/highlights should blend together a bit better...I know that sounds sort of confusing...but just try blurring the back shading. Wow I'm starting to ramble ;P Otherwise...this is pretty good. :)

Yeah, blur the highlights and shading. 21:58, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yeah I can't really blur anymore than this... 00:12, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

You might want to have more then four little spots of highlights. Where's your light source coming from? 21:04, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Well the light source is between the tip of the tail and the ear.Somewhere between there or in tha general area... 23:18, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. A lot. And make them bigger. And darker. xD 23:19, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. It fills up the ear too much. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 20:20, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. The ear pnk is too angular at the top corner. 02:27, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:54, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, it's looking much better from when it started! The earpink's a bit too red right now though. Lighten it a bit, Also take the eye color from his apprentice image. This is looking great! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 19:05, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks too big. And blur it too. This is a lot better! 16:26, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Why does ear pink have to be so hard... 17:41, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink and blur the shading. 20:25, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a tad, and make the earpink more triangular, along with lightening it, making it more pink and less red. Maybe add a highlight to the ears? They look too dark to me. This is great.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:40, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the tip, Kittycat 14:50, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

I love this character art! I suggest that you maybe lighten the part of the tail that faces upwards and maybe the tip of the un-torn ear? It seems as though the lighting is coming from above in some parts so.... Oh! And maybe you could darken the back paw, the one that is less visible and isn't really "facing" us. Since it is under Tigerheart's body or on the otherside it should probably be just slightly darker! Fawngaze 23:28, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Very odd request but I think I did what you wanted 15:28, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh Sandy, I don't wanna sound mean, but this whole thing, not right. The highlights need to be more circular, and only on the face and haunch. The shoulder highlight needs to be ovaly, while the tail tip is obvious. Shade the back, legs, tail, mid-back to underbelly, and stomach to chin. Smudge and blur the stripes, and desaturate the earpink. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:42, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Though I did do the shading I just darkened it and put the highlights differently. I don't really know what ^that^ means so I did nothing to the ear pink... I'm not the best in engilsh class 02:45, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot. Reuploaded 

I think this is great and I really like it. CBA? . Darkhallows   Enter the cave?

I dont think that was actually Darkhallows, just someone using her siggie, but either way, darken the neck and mid section shading. 04:00, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded You do know that it's the second one on the file page, right? 14:58, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

There are some speckledy bits above the torn ear - erase them. Also, make the earpink pinker. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 15:42, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Are those things gone? 16:26, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Some markings look more blurred than other markings. Blur them all again? 19:37, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the markings, earpink, and shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:27, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I have blured 14:27, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur it more, and make the earpink smaller. 16:43, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more neck shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:14, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller and more triangular. 00:34, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Curse you ear pink! 16:25, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Can you lighten up the shading? This seems way too dark. If I'm wrong, then sorry. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 18:21, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's your comment 17:14, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading more? 17:29, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I can't blur it anymore then this... 15:45, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, this is great! I see nothing wrong with it. Bluestar11796 01:41, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This is beatiful! CBA? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 10:40, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the interruption, but the tail highlights don't match with the body highlights... 19:04, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded done. I think I did what you wanted 21:48, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and thin out the shading. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  17:00, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  19:32, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs to be lightened a little and the haunch highlight needs to be a little more.. circular? x3 02:26, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Circularerised? Whatever, done. 15:13, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Add a small highlight to the tip of the tail, or just brighten it. 04:01, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I brightened it 14:46, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading by the jaw, stretch the shading up to the tip of the tail, and move the highlight on the face onto the muzzle. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 19:27, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tryed my best with the highlights 00:14, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thin the shading more. It's touching the highlights too much. And blur the stripes. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:51, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the bottom of his arm closest to us. 14:42, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Man I can't do much more to this! Arg! But sorry I was away; I was camping 03:05, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the highlights are still too bright. You seem to be having problems with them. Do you need any help? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:54, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded No. But I think I got it now 16:30, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks blotchy, blur it more. 16:49, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blured. Man I wish this would get CBA'd! I've been waiting and there isn't anything for me to do anymore 01:08, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thin out the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:00, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger and more round, it looks like just one streak running down his side. Also desaturate the earpink a bit and blur it. 13:43, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded FYI it's the second one on the file page. 16:25, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png. 21:46, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the highlights more. 21:50, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thin the shading; it should not go that far from the back. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:08, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tryed tha shading again. 18:07, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fix up the ear pink; make the bottom of the triangle more flat, it's sort of angling down to the right. Maybe lighten it a tad. 18:29, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Done 18:41, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think you sould redo the shading/highlights. It looks really inconsistent and needs to be blurred. 01:00, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the highlights don't flow unto the shading well. Perhaps fix that and center the earpink a bit more. 15:01, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the front ear torn instead of the back. That's how it is on his normal Warrior. And the ear pink is REALLY red. Desaturate it a bit. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:42, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yeah can someb body help the back torn ear? I don't know how to fix it..... 15:35, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Pinestar (Alt. L) ~ For Approval
It was declined due to lack of work, so I thought I'd give it a try. XXXSpecklestreamXXX 06:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks lovely! ^^ Blur the shading/highlights a bit more and maybe smudge or blue where the earpink meets the fur.

^ That was me, sorry, forgot to sign. XP ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:17, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Blur and darken the shading more. :D 11:04, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing a bit, and blur and smudge the earpink. 20:50, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I darkened the whole thing and the shading and blurred the ear-pink. 21:30, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice! Redden the nosepink, and smudge the earpink more. 21:36, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! I'm sorry, personal business has kept me away from PCA. Make him a little more reddish, like mine.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:12, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing again and then more hightlights 23:36, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

The bottom of the tail could be a LITTLE bit darkened, otherwise it is AWESOME! *Ivyheart* 17:28, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I darkened it, blurred the ear-pink, reddened the nose and darkened the shading on the tail. 20:15, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Slightly pinken the earpink. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  13:11, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Fill the ear completely with earpink and then smudge the pelt colour into it. Darken/blur the shading and fill in the white pixels in the bottom of the eyes. You also need to erase the smudged lineart outside the bottom of the haunch. 00:26, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton all the way down the right side. Fill in all the white pixels on the ears, mainly on the left ear. Also, blur the shading and highlights together on the right side of the chest. Blur tail shading a tad at the edge all the way along. Same for the front legs. Give the face a small highlight and blur it when you put the light on.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:41, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all the shading, add tail shading, intensify the highlights. 06:57, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Like they said ^ blur/smudge the shading, and I would darken the bottem of the tail a bit more. Nice job! At el  da  22:51, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading above the forelegs. Other than that, he looks very handsome!

- ♫Millie♫ <font color="Purple">It’s getting cold outside... 22:57, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this "Pinestar.leader.alt.". 05:19, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I intensified and blurred the shading and highlights, and smudged the ear-pink. How do I rename it? 20:30, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Save this file under the correct file name, then place the "delete" tag on the duplicate image and an admin will remove it for you. 01:37, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks :) 15:37, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail highlighting. Nice job! 20:31, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Either darken all the shading so it matches the intensity of the shading on the back/tail, or lighten those bits. Blur all the shading/highlights as well. 23:28, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Less hightlights on the chest area and redden the ear pink. Then darken the shading a little bit. 00:13, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest and back shading, too. 23:38, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 08:43, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the shading on the chest a little more. This looks amazing! At el  da  23:06, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the back shading more. =) 22:01, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

The right ear pink looks too big. There's a lot of stray lineart, and some of the shading looks blotchy. 02:29, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the belly, legs and haunch. 19:00, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink just a tad and lighten the nose color. Light the shading a lot 03:30, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

There's this area near the place where the haunch starts that just looks kind of... weird. Can you fix it? 19:40, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading to the backs of the front legs. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:32, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

More highlights. This is really good! 16:44, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

This is the tawny alternate, correct? If this is, shouldn't it be more like the image I have above? (See Oakheart's Alt Warrior) ...This seems...too orange. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 18:23, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Pinestar.leader.alt. 19:08, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

This is sort of orangeish. Other than that more highlights and lighten the shading on the right side more 17:41, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can you darken the nose pink a bit? 17:31, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Specklestream? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I completely changed the colour (but it isn't showing yet). 12:43, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

This is too ginger. Make it more brown. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  14:33, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading along its back and on its tail. It looks good ;) 00:05, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. 13:18, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink fill all of the ear where it indicates. Add shading to the eyes. All the shading and highlights need to be blurred, when I look closely it is not a smooth transition. 01:34, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

He looks lovely! But...um...nosepink(whatever they call it: nose colour or something)could be a bit brighter.

Make the nose color a darker version of the pelt - solid colored cats have a nose color similar to their fur color unless the fur around it is white, ginger, or cream. -- 00:31, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like it has been reuploaded. If so, make it a little more ginger. Good job! <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:54, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps expand the shading on the back to the side of the face and bottom of the haunch, to smooth it out. It looks great :) 19:35, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights and lighten the earpink, then make it fill up the whole ear. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 20:10, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

This look AMAZING! It does need to be made a bit more ginger though. This is brown, not tawny. I was told below on my charart to use Birchfall's alt image for a good reference on tawny, so maybe you could look at that for reference. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:57, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't the earpink fill up the whole ear? :3 16:42, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay during tweak week I basically redid this to get the shading and colour right. 10:13, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, its great! However, the earpink should fill the whole ear. 21:54, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

^ I know, but the changes aren't showing yet, when it does fill up the whole ear you'll know that it's the right image. XD 07:44, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? 19:44, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Is this the alt. for the tawny one? Because I looked up tawny and it's 'orangey brown color tinged with gold' Wild  fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  21:01, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:02, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 10:03, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

This seems too light to be tawny. When I did Oakheart, mine was a orange-brown color. This is..light brown. XD Should this be changed? 00:59, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded 09:10, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pine (K) - For Approval


Comments? 20:31, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section XD Blur the shading. 20:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading a little as well. 22:33, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink 22:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the eye color too. At el  da  01:44, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is a bit lumpy and uneven in some places. Blur it out. Darken the shading a lot, too. And I'm having a hard time seeing the ear pink. 08:04, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very good, but I agree, the ear could be darker- more visible to see. Blur the highlights on the front right leg a bit. *Ivyheart* 17:05, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make him more pale, please. 01:59, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the eye color. Are you still working on this? 17:25, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Its been four days, wait awhile. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 08:33, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink and blur the shading. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  13:09, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the back seems a bit blotchy on the back and legs, blur them please =) 01:10, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Don't decline this. Dapplecloud's internet is down, so it might be a few more days until she can work on this. 00:32, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

You should blur the shading a little more on his back. It stands out too much. 22:00, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:30, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading doesn't look consistent. Look at this on how to shade kits: This should help you immesnley, it really helped me :) 15:21, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Ivystripe. 05:49, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the eye color and lighten the highlights a little bit. 14:27, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

No prob. Define the shading on the legs. 71.72.157.130 21:51, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more, there are still a few spots where the shading falters. Also you might want to redden the earpink. Nice job! At el  da  01:39, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

What color is the eyes supposed to be? And the hightlights and the shading looks sort of blotchy. 00:16, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is fairly blotchy, blur it, and you can't really see the ear pink too well, so make it pink. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 05:39, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 08:34, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

blur the shading on the back more 04:38, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Remember that because of the uploading problems, the image will be the one that is under the most recently uploaded one. Make the earpink a bit redder, but great work! 22:15, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ok, thanks. 04:27, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste around his left foor, we see it as the right. So erase that. 01:21, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I meant FOOT. 01:25, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Except of course, the waste around the foot. 02:32, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight a ton. Same with the streak of light down his ---> front leg. Blur the shading on his --> side. Also, blur highlight a tad on his < front leg. And, obviously, erase the waste beside his visible back paw. Blur highlight on it, too.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 10:03, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is really blotchy. And you need to lighten the nose color. 03:31, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:09, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:40, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome work! Redden the earpink a bit, 16:36, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Possibly blur the chest highlight. -- Moon  leaf  01:17, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Rename this Pine.kit.png. 19:09, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the shading a little more. It looks really good! 15:04, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

More highlights on the chest and face 15:10, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading, but blur it as well.

I think that was me ^^ I thought my siggie showed up when I posted it, But maybe I just forgot to sign ;D 15:48, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

The highlight on the chest it blotchy 01:59, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink just a tad bit more 19:22, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 05:38, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

The torso of the pelt looks...smudgy? Like where his chest it is. Blend it out more. 03:37, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

The chest looks like a square. Make it look more natural. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  16:07, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. Looks good :3 22:27, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still looks blotchy Blur it to smooth it out. And make the earpink stand out more. Good job! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:59, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit. Other than that, awesome work! 16:38, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 22:18, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, changes still aren't showing? xD Its still the second file on the file page. I think its great! 22:35, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight, darken the shading under the head, and define the ear-pink. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 23:13, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ermm why does this have a black background? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 23:40, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

It doesn't; you're probably looking at the wrong file. 16:23, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Harley (Alt. R) - CBA
At el  da  21:51, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

He was actually described as gray-black so that would be just dark gray. Night shine  22:15, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

This would be declined then, wouldn't it? 05:26, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ I don't think so, because he's originally brown and grey. I just messed up on the coloring XD. At el  da  16:29, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think Nightshine meant that it just had to be a solid dark gray. No patches or anything. 18:26, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, mkay. :3 18:43, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, so I'm somewhat confused. Is he grey and black or just solid grey? At el  da  22:48, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Solid dark gray. 23:09, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ At  el  da  00:20, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The shading could be more consistent; there's highlighting on the bottom/chest area as well as the back, so where's the light source? xD 00:24, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

blur the shading on the back a bit *Canyonsong* *Warrior Of Fireclan*  02:29, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Figure out your light source and change the shading; right now it doesn't really make sense. There's no visible light source. Blur all the shading as mentioned above, and make your earpink a bit smaller. 207.81.88.82 03:15, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me ^^ I keep on getting signed out. 03:31, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ not sure if it's showing up or not... btw, I smudged and blurred it as much as I could on pixlr without messing it up. At el  da  04:05, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading doesn't make any sense, where's your light source? 18:27, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Ok sorry uploaded the wrong one. The light source is now right in front. At el  da  21:26, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Harley.rogue.alt.png 17:36, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and maybe see Nightshine's tutorial? It shows how to do the shading/highlights and light source... 21:45, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ At  el  da

Blur the highlights. Great job! 22:12, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ I'm being really indecisive with the shading, experimenting. At el  da  16:47, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights/shading and lighten the whole image a tad. It looks black now, he's supposed to be gray-black. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 19:10, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ Ok I lightened the image, and blurred it as much as pixlr would let me. <span style="color:Lime;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background:black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:green;">❀ Atelda ❀ talk 22:01, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights look kind of unnatural. Make them more oval-shaped, maybe? xP 20:23, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest having a light source from behind, It doesn't look natural to have little spots of highlights. 20:59, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Sorry, internet has been down, but so I did this one on GIMP but I also did one with the light source behind. So...does this shading look good or should I put up the one with the light souce behind? <span style="color:Lime;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background:black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:green;">❀ Atelda ❀ talk 20:00, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more reddish, the current color is hard to see. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:45, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good, but the highlights are too light, the earpink should be reddened, and the shading should be blurred. The eyes should also be darkened. Nice work, though! 16:24, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights are the right shade, but blur them a ton, along with the shading, darken the eyes, smudge earpink, maybe add a tiny bit of highlight on his <- ear, and there's a white pixel on his nose. Wait, is that white pixel supposed to be there? I dunno. Good job.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:54, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the bottom part of the tail. 20:51, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is faded, it needs to be block pink and then blurred. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 12:39, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Harley.rogue.alt.png. 19:10, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Ok. 23:38, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink more. 17:34, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:15, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The eye looks kind of odd to me. It's kinda... i don't know... boxy? :P Or it could be just me :P 13:10, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Ok, done! 22:41, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading 21:52, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Comments? 17:41, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the earpink a bit on the bottom part? 18:59, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Of course! 19:05, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten it just a little. 19:59, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - ok I lightened it, and I've blurred it without trying to blur the lineart. 03:16, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Stretch the shading up the tail to where the hind legs and the tail touch and darken the ear-pink a tad. This is looking good. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 21:52, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I switched with Atelda, so I'm taking over Harley now. I don't know if it looks any difference, but I darkened the ear-pink a bit. @Scarletwind - What do you mean by stretching the shading up to the tail? I'm a bit confused. 03:19, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Rainwillow! Blur the shading a bit though. 06:53, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. @ Willow: You should have said it looked good to Atelda. She was the one who originally had this reserved. xD Anyways, comments? 07:04, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the muzzle ;) 14:25, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

The darkest shading looks too dark, lighten it a tad. Make it a much smoother transition between light and dark, currently it's very harsh. 14:45, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I don't know if the changes are showing yet. Anyways, does it look better? 02:40, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

There appears to be a 'stripe' inbetween the shading and highlights. Smooth that area out. 02:59, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I didn't know what you meant by the stripe, so I just blurred the shading and highlights. Anything else? 03:03, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Commenting on my use-to-be-mine charart xD. Blur the earpink a bit, the hindleg shading looks a bit odd. There is a darker spot on it. The bottem of that same hindleg looks a bit lighter too. Make the eye color more green too. (glad I switched this to you) Nice job though, better than me! 04:08, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Now? 06:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little more triangular. Looks almost ready! :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:01, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I made the earpink a bit triangular. Comments? 13:33, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Great work! darken the nose color. 16:34, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Anything else? 03:05, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Not for me, awesome job on my fail! 03:09, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

The nose still looks a bit funny. I think it's just cause the shading's dark over there. Maybe lighten it a bit. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 03:24, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How does it look? 04:03, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I fixed the earpink a little. 11:01, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights look a little abrupt; blend them into the pelt a bit more. Also, darken the ear pink :3 11:39, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks Paleclaw! =D I will go blur the earpink later..... 11:55, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 16:29, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Looks wonderful, Rainy! Can you make the nose black, though? :3 22:14, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest and bring the highlights down on the shoulder and flank so it rounds. It might be easier to show you with a redline. Sorta, stretch them down and round the bottoms so it looks a bit more 3-D. I hope that made sense... xP <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 23:16, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I kinda redid the shading. Does it look okay? I still have the old version of this image, so if this doesn't look better, I can upload the older image. The changes aren't showing yet though....Comments? 07:47, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great! Pinken the ear pink a tad. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 14:56, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

If I pinken the earpink some more, it'll look weird. I think it should stay the way it is. Anything else? 02:23, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I'm taking it the light source is on it's back? Can you darken up the highlights a tad? It...just seems awkward. 02:45, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I think this looks even weirder.....Changes aren't showing. Comments? 04:04, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink a tiny tiny bit. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 08:05, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I tried lightening the earpink a tiny tiny bit, but it still looked the same, and when I just lighten it, it looks to bright. I'm just going to leave it the way it is. 12:43, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Anything else? Comments? 03:05, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a tad. And, is the shading/highlights in the right places for the light source you've chosen, on the tail? They probably are, so, just lighten the tail shading a tiny bit. Maybe blur the shading and highlights together on the tail a bit.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:40, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I don't know if the changes are showing............. 05:07, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great. CBA? :3 16:17, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but I think that the ear pink is too light for the pelt color. Darken it just the tiniest bit, than it's perfect! 18:29, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll do it right now. 21:47, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Frankly, I think the earpink looks fine. 22:18, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

So do I darken it or just leave it? 22:19, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

It looks just fine. Don't touch it. =) 22:31, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Then I'll leave it the way it is...... 22:34, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Stormfur (PH) ~For Approval
Here he is! A while ago, I put this same thing up, except with the old prey hunter blank, and it was declined because the new prey hunter blanks were being worked on. So, comments?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 08:49, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The mudstreask looks a bit....strange. Blur it more, and also blur the shading. 10:19, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Good job with the eye! And the mud is as red as the ear pink. Make dark brownish. More highlights on the tail 14:15, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Make the ear pink fill the whole part of where the ear indicates. Make the mudstreaks a little less uniform and make them go kinda crazy on him, so it looks more natural. 14:21, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly and bottom of the tail. Also, Darken and smudge the mud-streaks to make them look a little more natural, Like Ivystripe stated before. 16:16, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The mudstreaks are red! Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 17:08, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Stormfur.ph.png. 20:11, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and darken the shading. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 22:40, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The mud streaks could use some work. You should make them a more brown-ish color, as opposed to orange-red. And you should tryand blend them into the fur-color more too. Shade under his head and the ear farthest from us. Fawngaze 22:00, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Changed mud colour, blurred shading, darkened shading, added more highlights onto the tail, added shading in the places Fawngaze requested.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:15, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

The mud still seems a bit red, try to make it a bit more of a pasty brown and darken the shading a tad more. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:21, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the brown. — PercyJackson101  &#124; Talk 14:55, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the mud that ran over the lineart on the back :] 19:57, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Try making the mud streaks browner. And the earpink is a little too pink. But good job. Shadewing  So unlucky we are... 00:18, June 26, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

'''Reuploaded. '''Yes, I made a completely new one. Oh yes, and Sandstormrocks32, for the eye, while I was making the first one, I stole a copy of Brook's new prey hunter image, and uploaded it into the art program I use(Adobe Photoshop) as well as my Stormfur one, and zoomed into the eye on both Chararts, and copied the eye style from Brook. I remembered how to do the eye for the second image.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:25, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mud color just a bit, change the eye color, it looks red. Add shading on the head and legs. Nice job! 22:26, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the mudstreak parts I circled more narrower and longer. They look like big blobs. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 00:24, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Smudged most of the mud, and added some streaks to his face.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:52, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Better, but some of the mud is still in big blobs. Good job, though. Shadey  Iro Ni! 13:32, June 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

To much mud and redden the ear pink 19:03, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink color is fine; just smudge it. :3 02:34, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''You mean smudge the earpink so it looks like a gray tuft of fur is going up into the ear? (see top of section for my reuploaded ear). And I think the mud is fine.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:08, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make the mud smaller and sharpen or do something with some of the mud, it can kind of blend into the pelt. Also put/ add shading on the head, and legs (make the legs darker, head lighter) 19:57, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:39, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the mud on his face. -- 09:03, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Did you get all the colors from his cave-guard image? The fur looks kind of too light, but good job! 17:59, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I redid it.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:53, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, Kitty! Can you darken the mud please? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 02:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Also, add some mud streaks along the back and legs. 22:30, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

And redden zee (the) earpink. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue"> ☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:13, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink less purple and darken a blur the mud. also, is there any shading on the mud? If not, add some. It looks kind of funny since the charart has shading, but the mud doesn't seem to. Good job though! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

The Mud looks strange, and darken the shading, fix the earpink. Nice work! 16:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 'I redid it again''. But I think this time it actually looks good :D. So, comments?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 02:21, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and define the earpink. It looks better now! 22:09, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mudstreaks. This is looking nice. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 23:17, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I think I messed up the mudstreaks :(- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 02:51, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the mudstreaks look just fine. They actually look natural. I'd say maybe blur the ones on the tail only a tad. 06:53, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred and smudged tail streaks and made eye less red/orange.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 02:44, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should make the mud a bit smaller, and I'd define the shading more (I.e. lighten the highlightsand darken the shading) Looks great! 00:49, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Flight (PH) - For Approval
Bleh.... this is my first one in.... a while :P Comments? 13:18, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the mudstreaks more noticable, and add more of them. Blur the stripes, and fix the eye a bit. Looks great! =D 13:24, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink fill up the whole ear. Awesome job. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 13:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, guys :) :) :) 13:37, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink now. xD And your welcome! 13:43, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded lol it wont blur anymore than that :P 14:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading, add shading to the chin, don't make the stripes and mud overlap, define where the muscles buldge out on the shoulder and haunch. 15:15, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and brighten the mud so its easier to see. 18:23, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this good? I had some trouble with the mud because if I brightened it, it was hard to see still :P So how's this? 20:45, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and define the mud streaks. Darken the shading and brighten the highlights. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:58, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded grrrrr.... :P 21:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading on Flight's back and blur the shading. 08:33, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) How's this? 11:52, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Although I think there's something wrong with the mudstreaks....Besides that, looks great! 13:07, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I agree with Rainey. Can you make the mud streaks longer and thinner? Otherwise, good job! <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 16:21, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lol how's this? I darkened the mud alot and smudged it. 13:58, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken her chest and under her head. Blur the mud streaks and maybe add some to her legs. Shade the tail. Besides that, it's looking rather good! 22:25, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :-) Thank you! How's this? 22:49, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Put a mud streak on the tail and more highlights 22:42, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's this? 22:49, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Muuuch better! I circled some places where you might want to shade though. And maybe you could add a streak of mud on the hind leg. I apologize, all I have access to at the moment is MS Paint XD 03:43, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you could use more mud, but great work! 16:04, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Does this look good? 18:47, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

The mudstreaks look better, but blur it more. 13:12, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's this? 18:48, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice. Only think you may need to change is make the stripes more visible. The mud covered them nearly completly. Work on the eye Paulmer 13:58, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Also make the mudstreaks a little more scattered and random. Right now they all are going the same direction and they need to look more slapped on. ;3 20:09, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge or blur the earpink. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:43, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink into the ear a bit. 17:32, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Meh...... does this look good? :P 23:33, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink and make the mudstreaks go in different directions. Right now they look too...uniform? Anyways, you might also want smudge the mudstreaks more also. Nice job. 01:04, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay, I desaturated the earpink, but I am really struggling with the mud. When I smudged it, it just totally blocked out all the tabby stripes... so, basically, I darkened the stripes and made them more visible, but now it just clashes badly with the streaks of mud... Can someone help me make the mud look... you know, more splashed on? Thanks :) 12:30, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Where is your light source? Even from above, the limbs would still have light parts. If you're having it from directly above, make sure to add light parts to the tops of the arms/front legs, the top part of the back part (ugh could I make it more confusing -_-) of the foot, and add shading to the bottom of the tail, neck, and chin, or define it if you have some. This is looking phenominal! :) 23:40, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm failing EPICALLY :P 03:16, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add one more mudstreak on the tip of the tail? Good job ^^ <font color="lime" style="background:Blue"> ☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 20:31, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if it is my laptop, but the mud looks......black?(It has got to be hard to make mud look good on a BROWN cat.) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 22:34, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? 03:02, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink a bit more. Its great! 16:14, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks! How's this? (I'm hoping to get this approved soon! :P) 17:27, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, it should. Is there supposed to be mud on the face? 23:20, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, what's on the face now are tabby stripes and if I add mud to the face it'd block out the stripes. :) 00:28, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Smudge the earpink into the ear a bit more. 22:20, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded sorry i havent been on in a while, my computer is full of viruses and im just glad it would let me log in xP so anyways, hows this? 23:44, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Petaldust (W) - For Approval
Here she is. Not much to say, so comments? x3 01:49, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ginger patches more orange and less red. 01:53, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

This.is.STUNNING.(Lol at first I was all like'NO fair I wanted to make Petaldust,but then again, Rainy is better at chararts than me) Do as Goldenpelt said, and define the earpink, It blends in to much.And there is coloe right under the haunch, add/darken shading to the ear farthest from us. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:58, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the brown parts, it just looks white and orange, not tortoiseshell. 02:02, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

The white ear looks a little to light after shading.( @Maplepool I wanted to make Petaldust too! But sadly, I'm a kit :' 02:13, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, torties need black parts. Add much more blank to her image. And guys, you DO realize there is probably still her kit and apprentice to do? ;) Nice job Rainy! 02:34, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to her far ear. Great job! 09:09, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Gorgeous! But the earpink is hard to see, try to define it more. Shadey  Iro Ni! 14:34, July 5, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

No! You told Maplepool! Anyways, yeah, the ears to light. 20:35, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

MUCH better! It kinda reminds me of Spottedleaf. Only problem I see is the ear pink. It looks to triangular. 21:27, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oh thanks. x3 I forgot to say '''Reuploaded. 21:41, July 5, 2011 (UTC)'''

Wow, this looks wonderful! One thing, is she supposed to have a white chest and paws, or is it gray? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 01:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''It's white, it just looks gray because of the shading, but I can try to lighten it if needed. 01:54, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 02:08, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is one of the best tortoiseshells I've ever seen!! *.*The eye color should be saturated a bit more though, it looks gray right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:12, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

lighten the shading. Great job! 15:54, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:55, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I just redid it because I didn't like the other version at all, but the changes aren't showing. x3 21:33, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

This is REALLY good, but I don't remember her being mentioned with white patches. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:16, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well tortoiseshells can have white on them, and I thought it looked better. But if anyone else thinks I should remove the white I will. xP 13:28, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little bigger, like more triangular. 16:07, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well, not to be a downer, but I agree. If it said "toroiseshell-and-white" anywhere in the text, then yeah, but if just a tortie, then no :( 16:46, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Fernshade and Poppycloud have white on them and they are just listed as tortoisehsells. 17:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, so if they have white, what can't Petaldust? It would be stupid if we don't let this one have white, but we let them have white. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:54, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think its fine with white, but it doesn't really match her apprentice version. Maybe you should talk with Poppypelt about whether you should lighten it or she should darken hers. And, make the earpink a bit bigger. 20:55, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know they did, in that case, keep it. 01:04, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 23:11, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

@Mistystar and Rainy I re-did it to match this one. Btw I'm a dude... 23:44, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

The white looks very gray. Lighten it up. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 09:10, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 16:04, August 21, 2011 (UTC)'''

Lakeshine (W) ~ For Approval


My first no-kit image, I know, I know the earpink looks werid, I nade this image on my laptop, and I couldn't get the earpink to look right sooo I just made it look as best I can.nComments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:08, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur or smudge the gray patches. -- 02:17, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Try to blend the gray and white together a little more. It looks a little spontaneous. Try blurring it again, maybe? And make the highlights a tad bit more visible.( Sorry, edit conflict. That's why I put the white and gray thing. ) 02:21, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading, smudge the patches into her fur, add/define shading on tail, and when you fix the earpink make sure to make it bigger ;) 02:35, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmm reuploaded, changes not showing. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 07:02, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Don't know if it's me, but the earpink is like, slanted. Also I can't see the shading. Add shading and fix earpink Paulmer 12:11, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! Paulmer, no you're right. The earpink needs to stand up- it's as if it fell over! 14:13, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the needed places, like where there would be shadows. Maybe add a patch of gray to the head (a smaller one), make the earpink triangular (like previously stated), and maybe make the back hind paw gray. 14:19, July 5, 2011 (UT,C)

Lol I know, I was like 'It dpolphin dived to the ear!' xD Ok, I will get right on it, and if the earpink doesn't look right, could someone fix the earpink for me? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 21:25, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

VICTORY!!!!I GOT THE EARPINK TO LOOK NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (<--- abuse of the '!'s) Ok darkend the shading, fixed the earpink, should I darken the gray pathces, it looks to bright to me....., Comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 21:58, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the gray patches in the same direction. Also I would darken the shading on the head, chest, and legs. Blur the shading on the tail and back. Nice job so far, Maplepool. 02:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Ok so I darkend the patches(like I wanted to), re sumged the pathces, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 03:06, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/add shading. I can't really see much right now. And lighten the eyes a bit. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:13, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, Comments? (Why is the image next to the title?) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 13:50, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yay thank you whoever fixed it~ Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 13:55, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

That was me. =P Your welcome! 13:56, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. 15:51, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded- Back shading blurred. Comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Gawjus, gurl, gawjus! Add/darken shading on legs. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 22:40, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, fixed leg shading, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 23:52, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, some of the splotches are darker than the others, or maybe that's just the shading. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 01:30, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

The shading. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:22, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Anyway, redden zee earpink then make it larger. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 21:52, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

There's something funny to me about those splotches, maybe not smudge them as far out? 00:02, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Alright I'll get to wrok on it, and she was said to be mottled in CP, should I make her mottled? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:50, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Made the patches smaller, and made the ear-pink redder. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:56, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

The changes aren't showing, but on the preview it does show, blend the motles in a little more. 19:57, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred the mottles, commetns? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:00, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Changes aren't showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:06, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Maybe lighten the ear pink just a bit. A tip: If you have paint, before you add the color to the fur, zoom in alot so you can clearly see the ear, then with the pencil icon, draw a triangle inside, then color the fur and stuff, then blur it later on. Fallenstars 00:32, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Are you looking at this image or the second one in her history? That the one that needs to be up. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:44, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the patches more, and make the tail patch a little more round. it looks kind of square and unatural. Also darken the shading on the white and blur the highlights. 13:39, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred the patches to a max, darkened the white shading as much as i can without it looking gray, fixed the tail patch, and blurred it, anything? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:56, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I know it's in a small area, but can you try blurring her white ear-tip a little more? 15:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Repuploaded- Blurred her ear-tip, Anything else? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:06, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular, smudge the patches more, darken the shading. Good job! 20:52, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I can't darken the shading anymore, I darken the shading, the white becomes pale gray, the gray bomes dark gray, and then it kills the image. So no, i won't darken the shading. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:43, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

The gray parts look awkward, especially the one on the tail. Blur the mottles. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:57, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

The gray patch on the tail looks like a box... <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  11:09, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Snow; that is beacause changes aren't showing, I can't blur anything anymore, gimp has blurred it to a max. So....Mint; what do you want me to do with the patches? Smudge them a bit? Just saying they look awaward doesn't really help me much...xD Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 13:16, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! I meant that the tail looks like a box and they should be smudged and blurred. And if you're using GIMP. you should be able to blur it enough. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:04, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Gettin' really tired of syaing this, but, Changes ARE NOT showing, to see the REAL image, go to her history, I PROMISE you her tail patch DOES NOT look like a box(Sorry if sound rude, I'm really tired, waking up at 4:30 does that to you Dx sorry.) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 14:07, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Okay i played around with the patches and I got this....so....What do ya' think? And the CHANGES are showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:28, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ithink, it looks good, but can you bur the patch on Lakeshine's back? Leaf-storm,18:57,August 18,2011 (UTC)

reuploaded-comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:34, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest fur shading. Sorry if I'm saying this even though the changes aren't showing. I'm on my phone. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  19:50, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Blurred Chest Shading, comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:26, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. And she looks speckled, not mottled. Mottles are uneven. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:26, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

So I re-do the mottles? Or what? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:45, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I re-did the mottles. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:09, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Use Thistleclaw and Hawkheart as examples for mottles. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:08, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

But, this how I did Adderfang and Mothwing's image's mottles, and no one had a promblem with those, so I'll change it if someone else has a promblem with them, but really? If I change her, won'twe have to change Mothwing and Adderfang too? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:06, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so for once, i tired to NOT be a pain and make her look like hawkheart's mottles, and quiet honelsty, all I have to say is this; If YOu want it YOU do it! Because I did it and she ended up looking like BLCH! okay, she looked AWFUL, alright, sorry if I soun rude but really she looked HORRID. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:21, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Any commetns? Sorry, I'm antsy, and school starts for me on Monday, so I REALLY wanna get this approved fast, cause after school starts, I'mma be busy Dx Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 22:16, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Center the earpink, blur the shading along the chest, and blur the patch on the foot farthest from us. 22:36, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

The Ear-pink already is centered.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:27, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Fixed the chest shdaing(Blurred it.) And blurred her paws(she has two patches on each of her feet farthest from us, so i blurred them both..) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 23:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Is it me or do her eyes look gray? They are blue... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:39, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make them a more striking blue color 15:38, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten the earpink. Also, maybe try smudging the patches? They still need to be blended in with the pelt more. 16:13, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I was told NOT to sumdge the patches, so which do I do?

Oakheart (A) - For Approval
Ear pink on apprentices is a pain. Dx Comments? 02:43, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is too pink, take it directly off of one of his images. Blur the haunch shading. Define the shading on the tail. 02:58, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

See? It's a tad bit duller

Darken the shading on the far back leg (if you know what im talking about xD) Looks great!! Good job :) 09:11, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 16:21, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights a tad bit more visible. Really nice, though! 20:39, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:33, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice, Goldenpelt. I know how annoying ear pink on apprentices can be...but...can you make it just a tad bit larger? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 01:35, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and yes, make the earpink a bit larger. 23:16, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It's kinda hard to see the earpink, in my opinion. <font color="#99ffff">The Stars Align <font color="#66ccff">Isn't there somewhere I can buy snow?

Goldenpelt, are you still working on this? =( 06:03, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Brightsky (W) - For Approval
Woot. so i herd u liek mudkips??? 03:36, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job, Nightflower! Lighten the earpink just a tad, and brighten the highlighs on the head a bit more. 03:39, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Bee-oo-tee-fool! Reminds me of Mapleshade ;) Add a light part to her front legs/arms, and to the top of her hind foot. 03:51, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  04:32, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

This is so good! :) blur the highlights a bit! But, super awesome job! ;D 09:13, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

so u herd rite!!! But yes, this is amazing xD. Darken the stripes a bit and blur the highlights. Great job! 11:44, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights a little to bright. I don't know how to make it less bright but, blur it as everyone else says. And, yeah, it looks a lot like Mapleshade! 20:42, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks to.....violet colored...and Mudkip is a pokemon, a very awesome pokemon. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 20:45, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. I like this! <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:06, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 22:43, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - lawl. GIMP crashed on me and didn't save my layers, so it's gonna be a little hard to edit it. Oh well; might redo it later :P 22:58, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shadings to dark. Lighten it up a bit. Overall really nice! 23:30, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

This is amazing! Just blur the shading along her back a tad more. 00:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

The colours in the white look all messed up. Blur it out or change the image to png., because the white has like a rainbow in it. 01:24, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Can you lighten up the neck shading just a tad? Otherwise, this is amazing! <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 01:27, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! lighten the front leg. 15:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''I'm gonna redo this in a bit. '''Oh, and Iceheart, I can't turn this into a .png, because if I do, I won't be able to upload it. Also, excuse late uploads, Sims 3 and laziness are a deadly combination :3 01:20, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  03:53, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Looks better than before :3! The leg shading makes the white fur look kinda tan-ish.

Sorry that ^^ was me Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 21:55, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Someone can take this over, Nightflower left the wiki. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:54, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I can :) Vega;  Beauty is absoulute.  20:04, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks really pink. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:15, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Her white fur looks pale ginger, make it look white. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:46, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ Alright, I ran the desaturate tool over the white. I think it worked, but the changes aren't showing (I think). Vega; Beauty is absoulute.  01:22, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Her fur looks gray-brown and her ginger looks pale ginger. Maybe copy the colors off of File:Broken Shadow.queen.png's charart? 20:43, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Brightsky's description just says 'ginger', so it can be any shade. The changes aren't showing, but I *think* I fixed the white...xD. Vega; Beauty is absoulute.  18:02, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you got it! The marking on her tail looks a little "straight" towards the middle part, it's just a preference but maybe make it flow with the shape of the tail? 19:40, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

GORGEOUS! Other than what Ivystripe said about the tail stipes, I see nothing wrong. Awesome job! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:08, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Is it me, or does the ear pink look a little too red? Maybe tone it down a tad. Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  18:11, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks blotchy. Also, lighten the highlights. 18:46, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Leafstar (Q) ~ For Approval
Aww, she's such a pretty queen! I played around with the smudge tool, and I must say that I like the results! By the way, hope you guys had a nice fourth of July! 04:40, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the cream portions a bit more to match the leader art and blend the shadows more.

Reuploaded 04:54, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Color the white spot on her tail. 06:38, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

The white spot is supposed to be cream like on her other images. 14:11, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

this looks good, but the "cream" seems more white, the earpink is barely visible and pretty trans



parent, and, to me, the stripes, or, more of, lack of, look weird where i circled in red Bluestar11796 21:37, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

There's a little strip of pixels next to the haunch that is lighter than the shading, so make it so it matches the shading color. Also, make the earpink bigger. 22:30, July 5, 2011 (UTC)



Alright, I've circle the gray portions that need fixing(No, it's not just the tail) I dont know if you put them there on purpose, but try to fill them in. --

Make the parts of the stripes that are on the patches of cream a darker cream, rather than brown. 00:38, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a lot. You can barely see it right now. Good job though, it looks great! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:15, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Its so pretty! =) Fic the gray parts, define the earpink, and blur the shading in the middle. 15:45, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great Ivy! Add some cream portions. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  16:54, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Since we're back to normal, this has been reuploaded since then 19:52, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

The cream needs to match her other images :) Vega;  Beauty is absoulute.  20:03, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I've said this over and over- I CAN'T see the cream on her other images! 20:06, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly...if I can't get it right soon, I might withdraw, because apparently everybody else can tell on her other images, but for some reason, I can't. 20:15, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

The cream patches are easy to see. They are the lighter parts. The underbelly is an odd color, make it match her leader image. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:13, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

But for me, they're not. I can't tell if they're shading or highlights. 01:48, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Here, I circled the cream portions so you know where they are. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 13:38, August 17, 2011 (UTC)



Thanks! I'll adjust this accordingly :) 14:45, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I do not think the changes are showing. 15:26, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. Looks great! 20:39, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, also, the reason the earpink is brighter is that I accidentally had it underneath my shading layer, but if it was correct before, I'll put it underneath the shading layers. Changes aren't showing. 00:00, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blurr the ear pink, and darken the face highlight. Or just the face if there isnt a highlight. 19:51, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:56, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I've also reuploaded again, as I found some minor miscolored pixils, and blurred the cream a little bit more into her pelt. Anything else? 04:43, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

It looks a little darker than her leader version. Can you lighten the cream parts a bit? 23:30, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I took them directly FROM her leader, I can try but they look ok to me 23:48, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded does that help? Excuse me if I'm a little irritable, something bad happened today 00:06, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

There's a strip of lighter color on the haunch close to the lineart. Blur it? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:18, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded anything else? 23:12, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is real big. Or define it so it doesn't blend too much. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:22, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 23:34, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the cream on her tail darker to go with the shading And Im thinking you should get the earpink color from Leafstar's mama 8)-- 00:32, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded and the earpink was hardly seeable before, so I think it's ok 00:39, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 16:11, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded By the way, on Wednesday, I'll be leaving for vacation, so if I could get this approved by then would be great. 16:35, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Once I'm on vacation, I won't be able to work on this, so please, if you see anything wrong with this, tell me now :) 02:34, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the tail, and define the earpink. 17:48, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded lol there is shading on the tail, I just added another layer 18:41, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lilystem (w) ~ For approval
Alright, I used the earpink from her Queen and sent the finished charart to Nightflower, to see if it was all right. She told me to darken it, so I did a tad. If it still needs some work, could someone get me a color for it? Anyways, My first warrior! 14:15, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

This looks beautiful! Blur the shading a bit! Good job! 14:20, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reaname this Lilystem.Warrior.Png Add light part to the front legs and to the top of the foot. The earpink looks a little bright, but I'll have to check her queen image 14:22, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, it's fine. But you need to darken the fur to match the queen. 14:25, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

This looks good, blur the shading, add highlights. Plus, when you re-upload, please just keep the same name and overwrite the old image. Paulmer 15:59, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Before I start to remake the image, I have a few things to clarify xD @Ivystripe - I got the base color from the queen already, so where exactly do I have to darken it? @Paulmer - I do have highlights, and it's not required to have highlights anyways :) 16:02, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well, her coat just seems darker but I think the image needs tweaked in tweek week, I see many mistakes so I guess it doesn't matter then. 16:18, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and Re-Named. Alright, I'll keep it at this color then. 17:07, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and earpink, and darken the shading on the tail. 01:58, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

darken the shading overall, and darken the earpink. 15:35, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I darkened the shading, but I'm not too happy with it and I tried blurring it all I can. 19:09, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Its pretty good! The tail shading still doesn't look right, though. Either lighten the highlights or darken the shading. 21:08, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'll be gone until the 20th, I'll reupload it then. 22:23, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I figure I should reupload it before I leave. This is my redid GIMP version, but I think I'm going to redo the shading pattern on my trip, I don't like it this way. Changes aren't showing. 00:26, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe brighten the eyes a tad? 15:59, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, Splashpelt, could you darken the shading a tad? 16:53, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights and blur them. 20:14, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 14:40, August 20, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:14, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Also, define the shading a tad 01:19, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes may or may not be showing. 16:10, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

All shading besides the tail needs to be blurred a tad bit more. This looks great! =) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  16:48, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing 

I made the changes show by reuploading it a couple times xD Just to let you guys know, this is the correct version. 23:51, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Fff, Reuploaded, I just saw that little bit of waste between the legs. xD Changes not showing. 00:15, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Cedarpelt (W) - For Approval
Finally, a long haired cat >_>. Comments? 19:13, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! Define the shading and the earpink. 19:22, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:32, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

make the highlights a little lighter and the stripes on the tail more defined 20:25, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:29, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Aw I love his tail! Lighten the earpink. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:10, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:34, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a little bit so the smudges blend better with the pelt. This looks good. :) 02:10, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe shorten the tail a bit more? It seems a bit long for a 'short, stout tailed cat' as the description says. Other than that, I see nothing wrong, this is wonderful! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:18, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It is! :P Can you add some highlighting/shading to the front leg? 15:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) 16:09, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Should the earpink be a little lighter? 23:14, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me! <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 00:58, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! (Ya know this kinda looks like my charart xD) De-saturate the earpink and maybe add highlights to the the front legs and pawz --

Reuploaded Back to good ol' images. :D 20:40, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded without anyone telling me to I added mottles, since it was on his page. Changes aren't showing. 21:30, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Define the highlights a bit. The tail looks good but somewhat un-natural. Fallenstars 14:55, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think the lineart on the tail needs to be thickened in some places, and maybe you could add some fur lines to the end to make it look more natural, but I'm not sure since the longhaired warrior blanks don't have those (imo I think they should) 16:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights. 19:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think the changes are showing. And I just left the tail as it is, since the longhaired tails are like that. 20:43, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight. 22:45, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the neck and on the shoulder. This is looking nice! <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 00:19, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Rainflower (Q) ~ For Approval
First charart! Comments? This was declined before... <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 01:32, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

In some places around the lineart, it's pixlated. So blur or smudge it so it's all around the same color. Blur the darker shading on the back and tail, and fill the ear in more with the earpink. 01:57, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think you might have to redo this because it's all pixelated. 02:01, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

She looks cross-eyed. Try basing the eyes off of one of the other queens for approval, like Brook. 02:18, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Save it as a .png not a .jpg, move the earpink make it a tad bigger and darken it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:22, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It is a .png Maplepool, but it looks like it WAS a .jpg before. You'll probably have to redo this, sorry. D: ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 11:20, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, define the earpink, fix the eyes...and thats it! :D 15:27, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

OH! I know what you did, you used the 'Sharpen tool' Didn't you? I think Gimp might have I don't know, as I have never used it, don't use it, it kills the quailty of a image, when you redo her image, give her a pink-gray nose, like Feathertail an Crowfeather and Jayfeather's kit image, or Marshscar/star's Leader image, it looks like the nose is the same color as the pelt. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:21, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll redo it, I don't really care. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:17, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded or Re-Done ~ Gosh, this looks WAYYY better! <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:50, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

It does. :D Blur the earpink. 23:12, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Comments? <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 23:25, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 02:17, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 11:12, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Looks good Snowdazzle! =D 11:25, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried blurring it as much as I can. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 11:43, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a lot 19:54, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Snowy this is beautiful! Blur shading and highlights. ^.^ Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  02:40, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I'll reupload this as soon as I come back from vacation. ~Snowdazzle, not signed in.

Darken and define the shading. 19:38, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but what does define mean? I'm just so stupid at times :P <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  11:58, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make it more visable. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 13:11, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Petaldust (A) - For Approval
Myfirst one! I know the highlights are bad but I kinda suck at it. >,< I didn't know if I could put it up because her warrior one is currently in the making, but I used that as a guide. Comments? -- 21:38, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the stuff around the tail, and get rid of those pixels. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 21:45, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploded. How can I fix the hind leg highlights, or is it fine? I already tried blurring it. 21:58, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Um, did you add the hind leg highlight more than three times? <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 22:43, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! Can you define the earpink by lightening it and blur the highlights more? 23:06, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Um, yeah, I think so. Only for the hind leg one, though. I'll try to blur some more. 23:26, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

the chest seems too gray, i think it should have no white (or in this case, gray) Bluestar11796 23:36, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploded. '''I blurred the highlights some more. I think their fine now. I got the earpink color from her warrior version. I lightened it up a bit, but I didn't want to to much because it would look different. I got the white chest also from her warrior version, so I just put it in. Instead, should I lighten it up? 23:40, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I tried making the chest lighter by putting the normal white color and smudging it around. 23:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

The chest fur looks way too smudged. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 00:04, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. 00:17, July 7, 2011 (UTC)'''

Oooh, I like this! Add/darken shading on legs. :) <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 00:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 01:42, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste off the lineart at the back of the haunch ;) 02:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, nice job for your first charart! <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  03:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Thanks! :] 14:23, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

There is some waste by the backside of her haunch, also it looks like you have light blur pixils near the top of her haunch, dunno if you meant for that to be white or not 20:04, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, define the earpink. 19:14, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Sorry, I wasn't aware that Tweak week was over. It might take a while to see the changes so look at the changes page thingy. 01:11, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry guys, the person who did her Warriors charart decided to change it, so I'll try to redo it tonight. :P 01:24, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploade. '''To match her warrior version. I had to rename it because the changes wouldn't show. I made it: petaldust.apprentice.png from Petaldust.Apprentice.png Should I delete the previous one? 15:37, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

De-thumbing. Looks good, Poppy! You can't delete any of them. Only an admin has the powers to do that. However, you can mark it for deletion, and someone will take care of it. 15:44, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Umm, sorry I don't know what de-thumbing means. And I don't really know how to mark something for deletion. Could you tell me how to and what de-thumbing is? 16:31, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it just has to do with the way the image appears on the page. Nothing to worry about. Next time, just remember to only put File:file name inside the, and nothing else. Also, when you mark something for deletion, you "edit" the page the image is on and put the tag on it. Simple as that! 16:39, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks. Any other comments? 23:46, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and add shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:28, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I have added the shading except for one place. The white part. Whenever I try to burn it won't show. And if I make a new layer and make the shading it looks different. Sorry if I'm being hopeless but any suggestions? 01:23, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, and make the earpink bigger 03:31, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the white muzzle some more. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  11:46, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 14:24, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well if you're using the burn tool, don't make the white a pure white. Make it a little darker white, but not gray. x3 20:22, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''The problam was I had to burn it like 8 times. XD A little extreme but it worked. 21:25, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 23:31, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Changes not showing. Check changelog to see. 03:14, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Any other comments? 21:20, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back and brighten the ear-pink. Smooth out the shading on the chest; it's really blotchy. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 00:22, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 14:23, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Leopardstar(W)- For Approval
If this shows up twice, my laptop is failing. Bird hasn't been moved/archived, but the CBA is over and should be approved whenever a lead comes around. If this needs to be removed, I'm sorry and will take it again. I like this, comments? <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  03:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, Nice! Blur the tail rings towards the tailtip ;D 03:35, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurring this was hard! <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  03:42, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

LOVE THIS! Redden the earpink. <font color="lime" style="background:Blue">☆ Snowdazzle ☆ I hate that llama 11:04, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Um...Leopardstar already has a warrior image... 18:33, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

No she doesn't... it's not in her gallery on her page. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 21:16, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I love this too! Yes, make the earpink more visible, but the shape of it is perfect. I love the way you did her back. 23:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

It was there just yesterday! I  know  that one has been approved already 01:11, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

One has been approved already, but it was taken down because she wasn't shown as a warrior then. Vega; Beauty is absoulute.  20:02, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- do I keep this up or not? Changes aren't showing. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:52, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I tried this with GIMP. But I can go back to the other one if it's better. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:56, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please keep doing this (it's wonderful). Since the original hadn't been approved for a rank she was seen to have, it was declined or never used. It's the same as people doing Willowbreeze's warrior before CP. It was declined. 16:24, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

It actually was approved and put on her page. It was taken down after that rule was put in place. This is a lovely image though :) Vega;  Beauty is absoulute.  18:22, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 18:55, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I've kept with the GIMP image, if there are no objections. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:12, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

This is very good. Blur the highlights a tad bit. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 14:40, August 18, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded. Anything else? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:22, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add some spots to the tail? <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  13:11, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

No, both her leader and deputy image don't. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 13:50, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

There's a spot the wraps from her underbelly to her...I suppose it would be the thigh? idek xD but it just doesn't look right to me. Maybe blur it more, or round it out more. Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  18:17, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, the part on her underbelly is a stripe. XD I'll smudge it and see how it looks. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 21:38, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't think the changes are showing. I redid it, for no reason really, but I didn't like it. I'm not sure if it's too brown or not. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:14, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Comments or CBA? I'm sorry if I'm impatient, but my summer's been long and I'm almost ready for school to start up. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:12, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Do you think you could tone down the highlight on her tail a tad? 23:23, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I also made her more golden, since it looked too brown to me. You know where to find the changes. XD <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:38, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks a little too hot pinkish, could you maybe darken it and blur it more? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 16:46, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 18:13, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on the spine a bit more. Define the ear-pink and darken the shading on the chin. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 00:24, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- yuck. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 13:30, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nutmeg (KP) - For Approval
Oh at last, I´m apprentice! This is my Nutmeg! comments? Leaf-storm,August 16,21:00,2011 (UTC)

Mmm..define the shading tons and the stripes alittle too -- 21:03, August 16, 2011 (UTC

Blur the stripes, add shading, and redden the earpink. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:09, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the white on her muzzle and on the back of the haunch facing us. 23:37, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reupdoaded:I added shadings,redden ear-pink, shaded and blurred stripes and added some more stripes. I'm sorry changes aren't showing yet!And please can someone add me to the list on the main Charart page please? I'm not here. Thanks. Leaf-storm,8:35,August 17,2011 (UTC)

Name this File:Nutmeg_(KP).kittypet.png. And, add more highlights. 18:03, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights on the legs 00:20, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Woah, looking good! 8D Anywho, define the shading on the white parts and make earpink more...pink -- 16:27, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I don´t know how to rename file. I added new file and added and blurred highlights,changes aren't showing yet,Leaf-storm,7:50,August 18,2011 (UTC)

Ok it's good now..but i must blur lightings.Leaf-storm,18:30,August 18,2011 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the earpink a little bit more. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  19:55, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Leaf-storm,20:04,August 18,2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink a bit and define the shading some more, and the white on the front right leg seems to go around the hauch :\ -- 23:40, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Leaf-storm,8:28,August 19,2011 (UTC)

mkay, now blur the shading on everything except the head and darken the ear pink(Oi! xP) -- 23:11, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded-I know that ear-pink is problem and I'm not shading master. '''Leaf-storm,12:15,August 20,2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink by using (depending on the program you use) the pencil, draw a triangle and then blur. Define the shading, (i.e. brighten the highlights, and darken the shading) and add some shading to the collar. 17:25, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded-mmm Is this good? That ear still loking bad. Leaf-storm,8:40,August 22,2011 (UTC)

Stormkit (SC) (Ki) ~ For Approval
Ok, I know I put 2 images on, but I couldn't decide if she was mostly gray or mostly ginger, so I put them both on, and I'll let you decide which one's better. Comments?Bluestar11796 00:24, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

First, don't make this a gallery, and don't make it a thumbnail either. Whichever one you choose, which I think the first is better, blur the patches, and define the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:11, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, but when I tried to put them on separately, the first image disapeared, that's the only reason I put them in the gallery. But, it's fixed.Bluestar11796 23:40, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I say go with the second one, but make the gray lighter, since in the graphic novel it appears to be a very light, almost white, gray. 23:44, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Also, you need to change it to the proper eye color. Her eyes are amber, not brown. 23:45, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

There, fixed it for you x) Tone down the ginger, looks too bright :\ and blend/smudge the grey and ginger together. -- 23:52, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

If you're going with the second one - The lineart looks a little blurry, though it may change. Blur/smudge the patches and blur the stripes. Also, redden the earpink some and define the shading :3

If you're going with the first one - Blur the stripes, smudge the patches, redden the earpink and define shading/highlights. 23:48, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Who is working on this, no one signed. If you go with the first one, make the gray look less...weird, maybe make her paler ginger, and paler gray? and tone tone the gray down? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:18, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me, i forget that quite often.Bluestar11796 00:24, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I had always thought of her as more of a Sandstorm color. 01:04, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Not to be mean, but I don't think this is how she was depicted in the book. Let my check my copy of TR and see which one she is again 02:02, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

go to google images and look at a picture of a ginger and gray cat, they mostly have a sandstorm color of ginger. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:08, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

U mean leik this? -- 02:48, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded (or more like re-done). I made the ginger more like on Sandstorm's charart, and I really like the first one, but, its up to you.Bluestar11796 03:21, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Kay, now make the gray a bit lighter and the ginger part a bit more ginger (they look tan now :\) -- 03:26, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead and go with the second one. The first one is awesome but it's not how she was depicted in the book 14:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripes should be blurred on the ginger patches. 16:10, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I decided: Gray with ginger patches (even though I think that the mostly ginger one is cool), so,''' Re-uploaded. Bluestar11796 16:25, August 17, 2011 (UTC)'''

The shading is too dark. Please fix it. I love the patches, btw. Good job! 16:49, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Get rid of the stripes on the paws, it looks to unreal. other than that, great job^^ Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 16:52, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ginger patches larger on the body, add shading on the tail, make the earpink redder, blur the stripes, along with the shading. Nice work 17:07, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights, and define the earpink. `

Reuploaded. changes not showing.Bluestar11796 19:08, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 21:59, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur lighting, I see circles there. Leaf-storm,7:35,August 18,2011 (UTC)

Instead of completely getting rid of the paw stripes, I say you make them horizontal instead of vertical. But that's just me. 14:26, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Gray and ginger.... huh, is that ever possible? XD Anyways, this looks GREAT, but the shading seems a bit funky, like it's got two different shadings, one for the gray, and one for the ginger, it doesn't look all the same, if that made any sense. XD It's like, it's shaded in different places on the ginger than on the gray. Any way of fixing that? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:06, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 13:52, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

@Paleclaw, Well, it HAS to be otherwise, she wouldn't be Gray and ginger, nor my cat's kit, Spots xD This looks great, blur the highliths a touch. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:59, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should make it look like a dilute tortoiseshell, which is like a cream or pale ginger and gray. It makes more sense if you ask me. xP 20:18, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Shellheart (E)~ For Approval
My first official charart! Comments? 23:39, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading alot and the lineart loks grey... -- 23:47, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think that's just some waste from the highlights, so fix that where they leaked over the lineart ^^' Blur the shading on the back and paws :3 23:56, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, changes not showing yet. Any better? If not, I'm going to redo, as I forgot to save it as a psd as well as a png. =.= My layers are gone. Anyway, I went over the gray lineart that I could see and blurred the shading the best I could. 00:09, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Shellheart, my layers are gone too. ; - ; I have no idea if you use GIMP or not, but I just looked at Insaneular's charart tutorial and if you scroll to the very bottom it helps with layers. Once again, I don't know if you use GIMP, but there it is if you are curious. 00:46, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Aww lucky, I wanted to do this if Leafstar had gotten improved in time. Oh well. The spots need to blend into the pelt more, and make them more like his deputy. Also, the shading is too dark, lighten it 01:57, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and I use Photoshop actually. I'm going to redo this really quick to look more like the deputy image. Should be done in an hour or so. 13:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded, changes not showing at the moment. Re-did it using GIMP. 14:59, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Changes still not showing... anyway, I tried to get his speckles to look as close to the deputy image as possible, but I wasn't going for exact as this is the other half of his body opposite the dep image. 15:12, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail more. 17:20, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

The image showing right now isn't the latest one. You have to go to the image page to see it, it's not showing the changes here for some reason. 17:21, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, and blur the shading on the shoulder. 17:53, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded, yet again the changes aren't showing. If you want to see it, you have to go to the image page and look at the second from the top on the list at the moment. I blurred the ear-pink and the shading more (though I think the shading you wanted me to blur was actually some of his speckles). I re-worked his speckles again to be more variant in size. 19:07, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well, now the speckles don't really match his other chararts'... 22:41, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Eheh, sorry. Fixed the speckles to match the dep art. Changes still not showing, though. =_= 00:45, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/blend the chin shading more, and on his near his chest where you have shading I think there's a little bit of waste 00:46, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Blended the chin shading and got rid of the waste. Thanks for spotting that. ^^ 00:53, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, really. Why is it refusing to show any changes I made since the original? 02:20, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

No comments for about 24 hours. Does that mean I'm done here? 19:58, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think you need to wait for a lead to CBA the image first. =) 20:13, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Kay. It's still not showing any changes, though. Annoying as all get out. 20:19, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Holy jeebus that is awesome 0_o. This looks almost ready for CBA(Sadly, its not my decision =.=) Anyway, define the earpink a bit and maybe saturate it a little bit -- 00:28, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Redefined the ear-pink a little. And thanks for the compliment. ^^ 20:08, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading some. You don't have to do this, but it looks flat to me, so could you see if adding highlights would make it look better. It looks good without them, but I was wondering if you could. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 21:39, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

It has highlights, I just have them very dim to match the deputy charart. Same goes for the shading. Every time I darken it I'm told to lighten it again, so I think I'll leave it as is. Thanks, though. 22:17, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Teh shading is fine Infact, its the best shading done Id say(everybody always seems to have a problem with the shading for some reason .-.) Anyway, when you blur the shading, do you also blur the gray markings too?-- 23:09, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

No, I have the shading and markings on different layers. I think they blend together a bit, though, since they're so similar in color. 23:10, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Just wanted to know -- 23:15, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

How often does the project lead come through to label chararts for CBA anyway? If no one else sees any problems with this, I'd really like to move on to a new one soon... 03:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

That's how I feel about my Leafstar image, there's another I'd like to do and I'm afraid someone's gonna snag it. I know that Iceheart had stuff to do this weekend, the others, I dunno 17:06, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink or make it smaller. You just have to be patient with the whole CBA thing. But I've got one I'd like to put up too, so I understand. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:19, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I can't tell which one, but there's either a spot or some shading beneath the head that needs blurring. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 16:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Re-uploaded. 20:59, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Kay, just fyi, I might not be available for a couple of days after tonight. I'm moving to my college dorm and don't know when internet will be able to be connected. I'm won't be ignoring anyone's critiques, just not available. 17:22, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Skyheart (W) ~ For Approval
Yay, my first charart to be approved. :) Comments? 23:55, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

YESS! First one xD Okayy, define the shading alot and make the earpink bigger(more triangular) and darken it alittle -- 23:58, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Also make the stripes longer and pointer so they flow into each other better. :) 00:14, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Defined shading, tried to fix up the stripes and earpink. I think I still need to do some more work on the stripes, though. Changes aren't showing yet. 00:36, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I understand that the changes aren't showing yet, so please don't get mad if I say this, but the earpink is hitting the lineart. This looks good! Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 02:37, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I don't get mad easily, no worries :D I'll fix that up soon, once I receive some more comments. 02:59, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reupoloded. This time, thankfully, the changes are showing. Anyway, I tried to fix up the earpink a little. 16:04, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

On the tip of her tail, it looks like there's a few stray pixils of main pelt color on her stripe. Nit-picky, I know D: Btw, this is really good! 16:12, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, but I think its supposed to be longhaired, since on page 143 of CP it says that all RiverClan cats have thick pelts. 17:16, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's ok, Dawnbright and Leopardstar are both short haired. :P 19:56, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed the ligher pixels on the tail tip. 20:02, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes get lost in the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:31, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing. I tried to fix the stripes so they didn't look lost in the shading, but I'm not that positive about how it turned out. 04:41, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look awkward. If you're using GIMP, use black for the shading and lower the opacity. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 13:55, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reupoaded. Changes aren't showing, though. I just re-did the whole thing, because the stripes really annoyed me. Thanks Mintstar, I did the opacity thing, I think it helped. 16:47, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Your welcome, they look way better. Blur the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 21:41, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing as always. Well, I tried to blur the shading, but I couldn't much without blurring the stripes. I'm sure you may see a tiny difference, though. 23:38, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:15, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Reddened earpink. I can't tell, but I think the changes are showing. 23:54, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes that are towards the top of the tail. This is really nice! 23:55, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing. Thanks :) I tried to define the stripes... 00:54, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

There's one stripe on the haunch, near the hind foot, that has this blob of paint next to it. Can you fix that? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 16:37, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

There's stuff by the tail outside the lines SpottedtalonMudears 20:22, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Shadewing, I looked but I don't see where, could you possibly circle it in red for me? 22:37, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Right there. I just thought it look a little odd, how there's just that paint kind of sticking out of the side of the stripe, because none of the other stripes have it. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 23:35, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

You're actually looking at one of the older uploads :P I re-did the whole thing recently. 04:14, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, oops, I'm sorry! Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:37, August 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

No worries. I did that for Dawnbright's image the other day... :P 16:03, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Graypool (W) ~ For Approval
Here she is! What do you think? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 01:40, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Blur the earpink and change the side the highlights are on, on the tail. 01:49, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the eyes more orange, less yellow. Rename the image Graypool.warrior.png. 01:53, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

blur the earpink. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:05, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Blurred earpink, changed eye and highlights, renamed image. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 02:32, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Blur the shading on her neck and right by her shoulder more 02:39, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Blurring job is a fail, but I tried. ^.^ Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  02:48, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Good job ^_^ Add more highlights to the upper part of the tail, though. 02:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

This looks EPIC Shady! xD Brighten the tail highlight ;) <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  13:17, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Done. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:48, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Define the shading just a tad. Looks good otherwise, Shadeh! 16:47, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks a bit blotchy; blur it and smoothen it; define the light source, add more shading to the tail, and blur the earpink. Great work! 17:06, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Got it. What's the light source? (This is my first charart, sorry). Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 17:45, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Gosh i know what it is but i am HORRID at explaining things....so i can't help you, I'm sorry DX Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 17:48, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - The blurring was a fail. I tried. And it's fine Maplepool. xD Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  17:55, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The changes aren't showing. Help? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 17:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

If the changes don't show, there's nothing you can do about it. Just look at the second-to-top file on the file page. The changes always start to show after a few days, don't worry. :D The light source means where the light is coming from; for example, if the light is coming from the side of the cat, the highlights would all be on the side; if the light is coming from the front, the back would be darker than the front. Hope this helps. =) 20:49, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a million. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 21:22, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Re-Uploaded - Changes still aren't showing. Defined light source. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 14:35, August 18, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Their is some blurred lineart near the shoulder. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  19:43, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think the blurred lineart goes down the back, also. 20:05, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'll get that cleared up, but I don't if the changes will show...thanks though. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 22:17, August 18, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Re-Uploaded - Um I fixed the shoulder lineart, but I didn't see any blurred pixels on the back. Changes are finally showing! xD Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  22:43, August 18, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The earpink looks like it's a little off to the right. Either redo the earpink, or just expand it to go towards the left more. 23:25, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Complete FAIL. Oh well, I tried. And of course the changes aren't showing again! :3 Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  00:07, August 19, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Alright, the changes are showing again! The earpink is a fail. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 13:43, August 19, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Darken the shading and highlights. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 21:42, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Uhh, I don't think the changes are showing again, but I can't tell. Does it look any different? (Sorry, I'm so stupid sometimes). Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 01:07, August 20, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I have no clue xD. Er... blur the earpink some more. Gawjus, Shadeh! <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  00:40, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Blurred earpink. It's not that great, Snowy, but I did my best. :) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  00:54, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

It looks like there is a gray stripe on the back, get rid of that and blur the earpink a bit more. Also, there is some blurred lineart on the tail, and it may be just me, but the top of the lineart on the tail looks a bit lighter. Otherwise, nice job. 17:12, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Fixed. Changes aren't showing again. =( Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  22:12, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Alright I think the changes are showing now. :D Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  13:40, August 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The shading is too dark on the back and the....front part of the cat. I think you can fix it ;) 15:24, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Tanglewhisker (E) - For Approval
FINALLY. After over a year of not doing chararts...here's the horrible result. DX Comments?  HA WK FI RE98  16:55, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

This isn't bad, this is really good^^ there are a fex stray pixels around his head, darken the shading a touch. looks great^^ Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 16:57, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Love what you did with his pelt. Maybe highlight it a bit more, though. It's really dark looking. 16:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

You also need to add some gray to his back to match his description. 16:59, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you have any earpink O.o. Please add some. I agree with Maplepool, this looks great! 17:00, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Add earpink, and define shading/highlights. 17:01, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

This is amazing! Some of the stripes look a tiny bit blotchy, and I think a couple went over the lineart. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 18:09, August 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I agree with the people above, some waste around the ear, and like his description says, he needs a graying back. <font color="#99ffff">The Stars Align <font color="#66ccff">Isn't there somewhere I can buy snow? 19:43, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good! Add some Ear-Pink (I dont seee any), erase a few stray pizels behind the head, and add a graying back Fallenstars 04:53, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fallenstars, you don't need to repreat what's already been said. 19:29, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Any chance of you lightening the whole thing a bit? It's so dark it's kind of hard to see the messy fur. It's fine if you can't, just a suggestion. This looks AMAZING! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:03, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I know I already commented, but I noticed something else. In his description, it says he has a "graying back." I don't see any gray. Any chance you could add some? =) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  21:12, August 19, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

...Are ya still working on this? 0_o lighten up the pelt color and define the shading -- 00:14, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hawkfire hasn't updated in about 48 hours... Should someone else take this up before it's declined for inactivity? 03:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... we usually wait about a week before we decline images. This is fine. 14:26, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Did it ever say that he has a gray face and paws? It doesn't say so in the description SpottedtalonMudears 20:20, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

It's supposed to be a graying muzzle and paws, meaning he's old. 20:22, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Mist (Lo) (K) - For approval


Comments? 17:03, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading a little more, as well as the neck/chin shading. 17:08, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Sorry, I really can't blur it much; I use pixlr. If someone with GIMP or anything better could help with the blurring, it would help a lot. :D 17:23, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I could try helping you out with that if you'd like :) I've got GIMP handy 17:24, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! It'd help a lot. 17:38, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Try defining the Ear-pink on the right ear. Fallenstars 18:09, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

There you go! I blurred it some more, smudged it, then blurred it again. Hope this is good :) 18:27, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much! It looks great! Anything else? 18:56, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and blur the shading a bit more. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 13:59, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:16, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks blotchy now. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 20:33, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

No it doesn't. Whatever. re-Uploaded. 15:45, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I've seriously blurred it as much as I can on pixlr, and Ivystripe blurred it for me on gimp, so I doubt it can be any more blurred than it is already. 15:57, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Mousefur (Alt W.) ~ For Approval
She was described as a brown tabby in The Darkest Hour. Well, here she is. I did this version, cause I felt I could use some practice. I also have a Y-tabby version, if you'd like to see that as well. 02:46, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

There's a lot of waste around her. 02:56, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good, but to be honest, I have a thing against traingle tabbies now, because that kind of tabby pattern doesn't exist naturally. It exists on their extremities, but not their whole body. 03:03, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Then I'll switch it. To be honest, I really don't care for this one anyways. XDD 03:15, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Y-tabby looked cooler anyways. Also, I forgot the eye color, I know. XD 03:16, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. Never mind. I uploaded the OTHER file. Haha. One had the eye color, and one didn't whoops. Okay, I fixed it. Changes might not be showing atm. 03:19, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I forget the outcome of the discession, did they say yes to making tabby alts for characters who were never mentioned as tabbies before? I don't remember the answer. Anyways, this looks GREAT! I think I like the Y stripe one better, but do you think you could make the ends of the stripes a bit pointier instead of so rounded? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:01, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, but since it's in the trivia, I say it's worthy of a charart. Since both you and Ivy say I should keep the y-tabby, I will. I'll fix the markings now. 04:18, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, guys. I got bored. Yes, I know about the file name. I'll change it later, so don't comment on that. 05:58, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes. And they look... awkward, if you know what I mean. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:05, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. It was only a test run. I just wanted to see what it would look like. 15:14, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

That looks incredibly unique. Suits Mousefur. 20:10, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well then. Should I keep this one up then? I personally like them, but, they do look odd. But, then again...no two cats markings are the same. 20:43, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The shading was bothering me/defining stripes. 20:48, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

You should keep this one it looks great, just blur the haunch highlights. Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  21:36, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think they look awkward because they're much darker than the pelt (the stripes.) Lighten them, if you're okay with it, just a suggestion. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 21:44, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Wildfire, I don't use highlights. Mintstarr, Dustpelt's tabby markings are like that. So are Longtail's, and Darkstripe's as well. However, to avoid another issue like what we had with Foxleap, I'll see what I can do. =) 01:23, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I lightened them, but only a tad. 01:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a tad and blur the shading. I love the stripes. :) 03:25, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Done and done. Give the changes some time to show. =) Also, thanks, Rainy. 03:49, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I like this! There's waste around the shape of it all around. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:32, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mintstarr! Re-uploaded. 00:36, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

There's still some waste around her. 20:40, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. There isn't any more waste. 20:54, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, don't you already have a tweaked image up? *confused* Well, redden the earpink. ;) 17:01, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Because I already had them reserved, I can keep them up. 17:08, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 17:30, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Dawnbright (W) ~ For Approval
Meh. I don't really like this XP Anyhoo, comments? Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  14:17, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart. Fix that please. Looks awesome though! :D 14:21, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

You need to add stripes to the ginger patches. Otherwise, looks great! 14:22, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Re-did the whole thing. Added stripes, no more blurred lineart ;) Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  15:00, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

UGH! The file is being stupid. I'll work on it, but the one above right now isn't the right one X( Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  15:04, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I fixed it. I know it's not named the right thing, but once it gets approved I'll fix the name :) Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  15:11, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

You need to rename it Dawnbright.warrior.png and try putting a splash of ginger on the paws or something like that. Darken the ear pink so you can see it better. 18:21, August 18, 2011 (UTC)



There is still some blurred lineart.

I circled in red where the spots are. Sorry if I am being picky about this, I can help with it if the blurred lineart really frustrates you. 23:30, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Umm...Ivyheart...that's not the right picture. The one you circled has no stripes. 04:40, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yea, I was gonna say o.o the method I used the make the one with stripes, it's impossible to get blurred lineart. I'd explain, but I'm so friggin' tired I really don't want to xD Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  11:33, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, shoot! I'm sorry :P 20:43, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the tail please :) 01:23, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Defined tail stripes, added ginger to paws, and darkened ear pink. Changes aren't showing yet. Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  14:45, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Willowbreeze (W)~For Approval
...I still don't think I sync well with gray cats... But whatever. Comments? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 23:00, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

She needs to match her apprentice art. Also, you have a lot of shading waste around the image. 23:06, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Changes aren't showing yet... -.- <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 00:08, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. To make this match her other two chararts, you need to darken the pelt, lighten the eyes, and re-work the stripes to be symmetrical to her other half at portrayed on her kit and apprentice arts. Also, you need to blur the shading a lot and lighten the ear pink. 00:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Take the colors from her apprentice image. This color is far to light. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:56, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done. Ended up redoing the whole charart. Personally, I think it's too dark to fit her description, but I took the colors from her apprentice charart. Changes aren't showing up yet. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 04:36, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

The color has spilled out of the lineart, so you'll want to fix that. The earpink also extends a tad too far down. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 08:49, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

The markings don't match, like, you need to add the two stripes on the side of her face/chin 17:09, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, I was seeing the wrong one 17:10, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Keep her image light, the other two images should've been pale. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:10, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. Especially the shading beneath the head. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 01:39, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

This is good, make the earpink bigger SpottedtalonMudears 20:18, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I went back to the silvery version. It fits her description better. I also did her apprentice charart and I think the reason it got so dark was because I kept on having to darken the shading. The others can be tweaked. It's a pretty easy tweak. @Spottedtalon. Ear pink is fine. Changes aren't showing. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 20:23, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch stripes. 17:44, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sol (KP)-For Approval
I realise his collor isn't filled in about as soon as I uploaded it. I did fix it, but the changes aren't showing up again xD. So... he was fun to do. I love torties, and Sol is one of my favorite characters. Ahah, I had forgotten how fun doing charart was. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

The white tail tip is too dark, it looks like it's gray... <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  13:13, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

NICE! define the shading a bit -- 16:15, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white on his belly fill the area you have indicated, right now it's a white dot and he has a black belly. Define the shading on the face, and define the depth in his eyes please. 17:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Also, his back foot farthest from us is a tad bit dark, it looks silver instead of shaded 18:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

His ginger patches should be lightened to match his loner image. Otherwise, great job. 22:27, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Ginger, it needs ginger patches. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:26, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, they were ginger, but the shading was really dark. In any case, '''reuploaded. '''I think I took care of everything, even if it's not showing. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 23:28, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe blur the smudging a bit? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Fear the pink <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">mist! 05:00, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Personally I think bluring it would ruin the effect and it wouldn't match the other images. If you guys really want me to I could, but I'd rather not. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 07:30, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darkhallows, don't blur. It looks good the way it is. =) 07:34, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 20:27, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I took the color from his other images. Again, if you want me to change it, I will. I just want consistantsy xD. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 00:56, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sedgecreek (W)- Withdrawn
Sedgecreek. My first one any suggestions on how to make it better? Sorry if it's in the wrong spot. 14:08, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I moved this to the correct section, and took the image out of a thumbnail. Her description says she's a brown tabby, so she needs to be more brown, and her stripes need to be a darker shade of brown, instead of black. Her eye also needs a pupil. Pretty good for your first one, though. :) 14:16, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. and i couldn't figure out what color her eyes were. 14:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC) does someone know what color her eyes are? 14:46, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ehh, 0_o;; Sorry to tell you dis, but the whole thing is blurred, 'ts not transparent, and save it as a .png, okay? -- 16:13, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

np and ok 16:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

It's a png. And thank you whoever deleted my old ones. If you have any suggestions please tell me. 17:04, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, erase the blurred lineart, make the earpink larger, give the eye a pupil and add shading to the stripes. :) 17:07, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

First off, stop uploading fifty different versions of this. This is why we are having trouble seeing the updated version of a picture. Second, you're going to have to redo this. She's a brown tabby. Take the brown off of an already approved blank. I really think we need to stop making stripes like this, because seriously, have you ever seen a cat with such uniform stripes? That's just my suggestion (in my tutorial, I have examples of realistic stripes if anyone is interested) 17:17, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

^Yep, your gonna havta redo this, sorry. It just bugs me how this is gonna get approved with the lineart all blurred with no way being fixed other than being redone -- 17:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry either can someone do this for me or can i just leave it cause it seems like i'm not ready to put up my charart yet. I'll just pratice first. Thank you for giving me suggsttions on how to make it better but now i don't think I'm ready to do this just yet. 18:11, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

i can make her tabby, I'm really good at tabbies, I'll make the base, and the stripes, but, you have to do the highlights and stuff, I won't do that for you. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:46, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, here i drew the stripes, and make her eyes like blue, green, yellow, orange, gold, whatever color you want, as long as it a real eye color, you can choose, okay? Hows that? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:53, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanx! I'll try to do it. i may not get it right though. 22:45, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Fill the strips in ;) I forgot to do that then blur them. Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 23:09, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

like make them darker? or fill them in with color? 16:07, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Fill the stripes in with color 16:38, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Cinder x Lion, you can't do this one and have Rainflower's warrior image reserved on the table. It's either one or the other. How did no one catch this before now? 19:33, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Since you "say" you aren't working on this by working on Rainflower, this should be declined. 20:25, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blend the colors together <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  06:54, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Cinder is working on this anymore, Owl. The person who does it next will end up making a new one. 06:56, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Should we change the status to "withdrawn" or "declined"? 14:00, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

yes sorry but i really dont think i can do this one. So i think we should decline it or whatever is best for you guys. 15:58, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I guess this will be archived now, unless anyone wants to take over. 17:17, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Firekit (Ki)- For Approval
My first offical charart :D Comments? I feel like she should be a little brighter. I'll try to brighten the ear pink if people can't see it. 14:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I moved this to the correct section and took the image out of a thumbnail. Since she is ginger, she'll need stripes, and the earpink needs to be darkened. This is lovely for your first charart. :) 14:25, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you C: I honestly don't think she has stripes, but I'll add them anyway. 14:27, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added the stripes, except on pixlr when I try to blur them they fail Dx. Changes aren't showing yet. 16:25, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

For some reason the changes aren't showing. I'll upload it again. 17:53, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Silvereye, nice job. I hope you remember me from chat xD Anyway, add more stripes to the top of the head, and make the ones on the body a little bit longer, so they reach the chest. 22:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Nice! make the stripes longer and wavy, define them, make the earpink more pink (less gray), and add some stripes around the eyes -- 22:33, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

When I try to make the stripes wavy, they come out all square like. Oh well, I'm working on it now. 12:08, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ok, I made the ear pink more pink, and a made the stripes longer. Let's hope I don't have to redo it again /shot. If I do I'm alright with that. 12:38, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Could you try making it light ginger around the muzzle, like she is shown in After the Flood? You don't have to, (at least I don't think), but I think she'd look cute 16:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Where did the stripes go? Sa lc  ie  16:43, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

That would be the manga alternative, so no. And everytime I try to upload it it doesn't work -_- 17:33, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

The tail needs some shading SpottedtalonMudears 20:16, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still attemping to get the right version. This is the one before the actual. 20:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's that color for the fur. It looks more creamy than ginger. <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  06:30, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I like the fur color. I was trying to make it similar to the manga coloring. 12:00, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Fallowtail (W) - For approval
heh, I took all the colors from her queen image, and here's the link in case of uploading problems :P 23:26, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Fallowtail's queen version is shorthaired, or is it up for tweaking? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >Fear the pink <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">mist! 23:30, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Nice! Define the pupil of her eye 23:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make her short furred, and no her queen image doesn't need tweaking. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:33, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

SWEET. make earpink more visible -- 23:36, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

According to the RiverClan article in the description, it states that all RiverClan cats are long haired and sleek. I've asked a lead, but for now I'm going to keep it long haired. I don't think changes are showing. Reuploaded. 04:14, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pink, and there's some light part on her back foot that looks misplaced with the lighting SpottedtalonMudears 20:15, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing... 00:50, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, and lighten the front of the front paws. 17:13, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blackstar (K) - For Approval
Here is my first charart :) Blackstar as a kit up for approval. I really don;t like the paws... What do you think? ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 23:32, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Moved it to the correct section for you and dethumbed it. He needs black ears and shading, and it appears that you used pure black for his paws. Use near-black so you can see the shading and/or highlights. 23:36, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can I ask where he was seen as a kit? Is this from the Warriors App? 23:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

You've also used pure white for his pelt. It needs to be near-white so the shading and/or highlights are visible. And yes, Cloudskye, it's from the Warriors App. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:45, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

We were on agreement to do app pictures, as I put up the discussion and nominated cats for characters needing art page 23:50, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I reuploaded the photo but on here the changes aren't showing yet. :/ What do you think. Too grey looking? ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 00:33, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

He needs to be short furred, where is your light source? define the shading and highlights. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:45, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the edges of his front paws. They don't look blured on my computer. <font color="#FF3399" face="Segoe Script">Silver <font color="#9900CC" face="Segoe Script">light  01:39, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular, and smudge the black paws and eartips as well. 01:42, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should look through a few tutorials, because I don't see any shading. Black and white cats can be tough xD. Good luck. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 01:58, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that would help. And see, this is why I think the kit system is a fail (no offense to Firestar, by the way) 02:02, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

This needs: be shortfurred,shadings and blurred black foots... Leaf-storm,8:21,August 22,2011 (UTC)

You don't need to repeat what's already been said; the artist will fix that 13:55, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading and also blur the ear pink. Darken the ear color and the eye color. 17:49, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' I added shading and blurring. The changes aren't changing yet :/ What do you guys think? ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 18:23, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste around the charart and you still need to make it short haired and define the shading 18:37, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

I did make it short haired. The changes aren't showing yet.... ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 18:44, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Then reupload it again, it's not even showing in the history 18:49, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, add shading to the tail, and blur the chest more 18:56, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

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Kit System Vote
Everybody check out this forum and place your votes. Please and thank you, 19:29, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sunfish
After some searching and contemplation, I managed to fish out a description of Sunfish based on her appearence in the graphic novel at the end of Crookedstar's Promise. Since then she's been given the status of planned, and I hope to snag the job of making her charart as soon as I'm done with Shellheart's elder image. I was juse wondering whether anyone can think of what color she should be made...

Typically when we go with default colors (and we have before when cats have only been described as tabbies) we've gone with brown. Should she be made light brown (since she appears to be a light colored cat in the graphic novel compared to the other cats) or a light gray to match the tone of the image in said graphic novel?

I am determined to get a charart for Sunfish made, if you couldn't tell. I rather like her as a minor character. 03:17, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be fine with you doing her gray, so long as no one else reserves it first. However, I don't think brown is a good idea, brown cats are quite rare. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 08:51, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Why can't we make her an orange/ginger cat since it is suspected that she's orange or yellow because of her name Sunfish. Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  16:12, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

If you can't tell what color she is, then she doesn't get a charart, simple as that 16:51, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I say make her a light gray. That seems to be what she looks like in the mini graphic novel at the end of CP. If Darkhallows says you can do it, do it. =) 23:03, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

If she appears a light gray color in the manga, then there are two options, a light brown or gray. There's your description. If you want to do her, take your pick. I think we agreed (?) on alternates for manga, so I don't see this any differantly. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 07:38, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can somebody get the picture in the book and show me? I think I've found something to colorize it, if it doesn't work, then it should be a choice. Is that ok by you guys? 14:30, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

The only place to find it on the web would be amazon.com. And thanks, Darkhallows. I'll go with gray if I manage to get the job of making the charart, I was mostly going with brown because that's what we make the tabbies with no color defined in the books and she appears in the manga to be the same color as Sandstorm from Ravenpaw's manga. 01:26, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Idea
I tried putting this on the page before, but it messed up, so let's try again. Since nobody is voting the keep the kit system as it is and I doubt that anyone will, do you think that we should (at least) allow the kits that were here over a week go ahead and become apprentices? I could always look in the archives and see when a kit asked to join, and tell a lead who has been here for a while. It's just a suggestion, but I think it'd be fair to do since I don't think anyone wants to keep the month-long kit system. 23:20, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's fine. But only the active ones; the ones who didn't comment don't need to be moved up if they won't participate. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:55, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

It's kind of hard to tell who's active and has been here for over a week. But soon, most kits are gonna be moved up to apprentices anyway, if not all, depending on which vote passes 00:02, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should wait, we have a lot of kits and apprentices, and the vote isn't over yet. I just don't think the kits who asked to join and then left should be apprentices. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:19, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well, no. But my friend is having troubles with her computer, but wants to help with the project, so I don't think she should be removed. 00:21, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Since we know, I don't think so either. But I don't think every kit needs to an apprentice if they haven't put too many comments down yet. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:25, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

We should look at the contributions for the kits that asked, and see how they did. If they only made one or two edits, then I say they stay kits. However, if they've made many, many contributive edits (like Shellheart did when she was a kit), then move them to the apprentice rank. We can't have tons of people becoming apprentices who don't deserve it. 00:43, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I have an idea, what if we have a set amount of comments that a kit should make in a certain period of time before they become an apprentice. And it has to be a PROPER comment, on that helps the image, not just the 'Looks great!' comments? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:46, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion, a kit should earn their ranking as an apprentice. A kit might join, and a week later, they've had no contributive edits since then. They should at least be able to put up good constructive comments (Like Paleclaw said) and be familliar by what is going on currently in the project. A kit might not even look at the page again after they join, so why would they become an apprentice? To me, a kit should earn his/her ranking just like a warrior and a senior warrior, it makes sense. 02:55, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think a certain amount of comments is a good idea. I think if they just give a plentiful ammount of good criticism and a week is what gets them to be an apprentice. If they do what Shellheart did, then they should become an apprentice. Unless they've been on vaction or having computer problems, then they shouldn't become apprentices if they don't do anything. And I agree with Splashpelt about earning apprenticeship, like apprentices earn warriors and warriors earn senior warriors etc. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 20:09, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Take this to the forum please. 18:08, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join again?
Can I join again? My computer was just rebuilt and I haven't been able to get on in a couple months. I have seven approved pictures so I don't know if you want me to start as an apprentice again or as a warrior, like I was if I can join again. Thanks! Moon 18:00, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back. I'll add you back as a warrior. I suggest you look at the guidelines again, theres been a lot of changes. 18:18, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

RiverClan
Okay so a couple of people asked me if since its been said a couple of times that all RiverClan cats have long hair, should all the images be tweaked to be long haired? I personally think they should, but i wanted to hear everyones thoughts. Itd be a lot of work, so i was alos wondering if we should make it so that you can have one normal charart aswell as a tweaked one up for approval/reserved, and if we should bump the limit on the tweaking page up o 15 images. Thoughts?