Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. G B 57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. G B 57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. G B 57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. G B 57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've improved her. How is she? G B 57 21:56, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Great! I don't see anything wrong :D. You did a pretty nice job. Sparrowsong 18:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be less circular and the shading needs to be darkened. --Hallow's Eve 09 21:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Blackclaw. Also, maybe try blurring the stomach-patch just a tad more. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the patch, but the ear pink has already been made less circular. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I see wrong is that darker shading is needed. That's all. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry it's taking so long, guys, but I won't be able to get to this for another week. Believe me, I'll do this when I get the chance. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 03:23, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, re-uploaded. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:26, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

The white part of the pelt needs shading. Once you do that, this should be ready. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 16:33, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I suggest that you use burn highlights on 12(maybe) on the white parts of her body. Thats what I do and it works really well.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:01, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For approval


(M) - Not much to say about these. First blank I've made where you can see both sides of the face and such, and probably the last blank I'll do for a long time. Will make a colored version over the weekend. (Maybe.) Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute. But their bellies and legs look.. weird. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

A few things though...What i think could be improved  How I would do it..... Feel free to remove this or disregard it if i'm wrong, but its lineart looks a bit odd only in this area. Summary of it: The arm has odd, unnecicary lines, the showing hind leg goes a bit up, or thick, the stomach area is oddly shaped, and the eye is a bit odd... But its fabulous in the rest.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 00:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks a little disproportionate--AutumnSky 02:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made a example and changed up the lineart a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just to let everyone know, I'm still working on these. Please don't decline. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The arm showing looks either too thin or too long, and the showing hind looks to high or thick.<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 01:09, November 3, 2009 (UTC) I really wanna see these improved, so if you need help re-lining them, i made this. And a colored version of my cat, speedy.The colored version looks terrible because i didnt shade it. Dont criticize it...<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploded. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:44, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

This might sound weird... but the stomachs look like kangaroos in that they have a kind of pouch... I think it's the way the lineart seems to overlap. Also, there are a lot of little lines that are kind of unecessary and will make colouring difficult. Try and simplify them a little without losing too much important detail. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 23:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be easier to add ear pink if the line in the ear that is closest to us was taken out, but thats just my opinion. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Well, now I'm sick. Nothing like H1N1 or anything, but my sinuses are all congested. D: Anyways, Snady could you be more specic on the lines that can be taken out and how they look like kangaroos? As for Spottedwing, I was wondering about that. While it makes blurring difficult, the leader blanks have the same kind of lines and they help define where to place the ear pink... what do you guys think? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:48, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you, Moss. Since the leader blanks are like that as well...I personally like the ears as they are, it helps define them better, as you said. Also, I hope you feel better soon! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:51, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Jus forget my comment; they don't look like it anymore. I think my computer was being funny about showing image updates but it seems to be fixed now. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:24, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I think Icethroat is right: keep the lines as it defines the ear shape more. There are some smaller lines such as on the chest that make the image hard to colour though as they get blurred when blurring shading. They also look very... rough so maybe you could try and simplify some of the busier areas of the blanks somewhat - they don't have to be complicated to look good (look at the warrior blanks) and the object is to make them easy to colour. Also, the paw that is lifted, the elbow looks floppy like it has no bone in it. The pose is great though =) These are the best kittypet blanks I think I've seen Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:32, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Fixed fur and got rid of the gray lines on the edges. As for the elbows, I'm not sure how to fix them; any ideas? Just make them pointer? Also, I'm afraid to mess with the fur due to the fact that it took me forever to get it right. Plus, the fur's like my loner blanks, so I'm trying to keep to that style. Anyways, what can I fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Moss, I'm not sure if I can call you tonight, so I'll comment here. On the long-haired's tails, the fur is pointing the wrong direction. It should be falling, but not pointed backwards. Definetely getting better, though. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:09, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Hey guys, I'm going to work on these tomorrow. *sweat drop* Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  00:26, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Kit-Mother Blanks ~ For Approval


How do you like my suckish artwork? xD Gawd, I need a tablet... The example is better than the blanks: <BR> Comment/Suggestios? (Suggestions OTHER than leaving the drawing to experts? xD)-- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh..my..staclan..THIS IS SO CUTE! I love the way she's staring at you like "I'm not fat!" The only thing I could say is that the head looks, a bit small-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I'll make the head a little bit bigger. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:26, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Heads are bigger by a tad. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

it look a bit odd..what is she doing? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if Apprentices are allowed to critique, and I love the blanks, but there are a few spots that look a bit... out of place. XD The paw near the Kit-Mother's head looks a bit flat, and the tails could be a smidge wider, but that's all I see. (: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 21:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Everyone's aloud to critique. That's part of the learning experience, being able to say what's wrong with a picture. :) Mumble: I agree with Shigura, the paw looks flat, and the tail could be a small bit wider. And also, the tail on the shorthair could maybe brought to the left a little bit, so the bottom of the lineart on the tail is at the same curve as the bottom lineart of the tail on the longhair, giving a curve that makes it more natural. Otherwise, great job, Mumble! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but the muzzle is a little thick, that shouldn't be too hard, methinks. You put queen blanks up a while ago, right? You've really improved ^^.-- Darkhallows 07:34, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The neck looks fat.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darkhollows: Yes, I did. :) I think I tryed a freindly blanks war with melon! xD Thank you! ^-^<BR> Bramble: She's laying down while looking at you. :P Yeah, not very well-thought-out position...<BR> Everyone who offered suggestions: I'll do that. How would I make the paw look less flat? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the paw more curved, like she's trying to swat the air? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 18:14, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - The tip of the short haired looks pointy. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 11:42, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do all of those ASAP, but I'm unable to get on very often since school is eating up my free time. Please do not delete these. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:44, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - XP I meant their tails looked pointy. I guess I forgot to type tails! Oops. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 12:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

lol. I've REUPLOADED the originals, and also have modified and saved two without paws so we can see which is better. I'll do the rouder tails with the next editing section, as well as making a new colored in example. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 00:35, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I like the one without the paw better but, maybe you could change the position of the head a little.-- Ashstar My Clan 03:10, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I like the one without the paw, but maybe make the neck a little thicker, especialy on the long haired one--Nightfall101 04:27, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I personally like the one with the paw, because the one without the paw looks kind of weird, like the cat's paw was cut off or something. But that's just my opinion. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:57, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

kk. I sorta do too. Any other comments before I edit again? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 16:16, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - First, the forelegs are pointing different directions; fix that. Also, maybe you could make the long-haired's leg look furrier? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:12, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the furry leg and non-pointy tail ASAP, but I don't know what you mean by the forlegs look like they're pointing in different dirrections. Can you please clarify? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 20:36, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I have no idea how to do a diagram, but I'll ask Moss later. The longhaired's leg isn't reaching as far. Can anyone who sees it please do a diagram? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:16, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Screech of Angry Owl (To-Be) - For Approval
...*fidgets* Sorry, Bracken! here is the brother of Pebble. how is he? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:09, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but this is very dark and I can't see much, can you lighten it up a bit?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * 3 s;okay...like Minnow said, he IS a bit too dark so, I suggest you probably start out as a dark gray'ish coulour, then add shading 'till it looks black :3--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 21:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't he supposed to be black? But I'll lighten it anyway. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 23:34, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Yes he is black, but if it's too dark, we can't see and he might as well be purple.-- *Minn owc law*  02:34, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better, or should I lighten it more? I also blurred some of the shading and thinned it cause I thought it was too thick. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 17:33, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's still too thick on the back and belly.-- *Minn owc law*  22:08, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded Better? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

The black is so dark that I can't see the lineart. Try running him over once or twice with the dodge tool to lighten the color. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 14:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I already did that before, but I'll do it again. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 02:34, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded I lightened the color, but I don't know if it's still hard to see the lineart. On my com it looks fine. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:59, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I can sort of see the lineart, but I really like the way your eye looks. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:14, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I can't see the lineart. I think it's because your shading is so dark. Did you do it with a black paintbrush or use the burn tool on highlights? If you did either then that's probably why - I find midtones burn tool better on a dark coloured cat as it keeps the distiction between the lineart and pelt. Try using the dodge tool to lighten the shading slightly then reapply the lineart over the top as a second layer (make sure all the white is transparent first). Also, the ear pink is too pale for a black cat - make it more of a rosy colour. You may also want to try adding some highlights with the dodge tool, just make sure you blend well. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:42, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'm just going to do it over again, because I can't lighten the shading at all. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:02, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q)- For Approval
--My first charart. I did the best I could. Comments =) <font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

She is completely white. Don't worry, when I started making charart, I would be that with white cats too. You need to make it a light gray, because if it's totally white, then shading won't work. Do you know how to shade? Because if not I could teach you.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

There's a few blurry sections of Lineart, and the shading should probably be thickened a bit. I can't see anything. XD (But that might be just me) The ear pink should be blurred out, and in a triangle shape. But don't worry, it's pretty good for your first charart! :) Just a suggestion; If you already know this, i'm very, very sorry. But you should go to http://pixlr.com/editor and use that. Using that program you can use the blur tool to blur shading and ear pink (Be careful not to go over lineart, and if you do, just open up paint and go over the black lines with the pencil tool) and you can use the 'Burn' tool to darken parts, etc. Once again, I'm very sorry if you already knew about pixlr. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 15:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura covered it all.-- *Minn owc law*  15:17, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

On the one cheek and behind the ear, it is lighter than the other spots. --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 15:29, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

For shading, use the burn tool. (if you already know this, ignore me), and run it over the back, hind leg, and other places that have shading. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:25, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

Okay, the lines that were blurred are a bit too thick now. And there still isn't any shading. XD (I checked. XP) There should be a few white pixels in the eye, (Look at Ferncloud's eye to see how it should look) And the ear pink should still be more triangular and blurred along the outside. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shistar Mai Talk Page! =) 17:22, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

There are only still some white parts near her face and her ear.-- *Minn owc law*  23:13, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

(S) - Maybe it's me, but the eye looks turquoise. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

hmm... my main problem is that you've now made her so far off-white that she looks pale grey... =/ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:40, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading darker also, and blur the ear pink slightly as it looks like it is now painted on. (ps. please sign with ~ so we can see the timestamp, thanks) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, pretty much what Sandy said. Also, to make her less pale gray, use the dodge tool at about size 70, and the brush that gets lighter out. (Please disregard if you knew this.)-- Mossy SC  22:33, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

re uploaded. I lightened her and darkened the shading. also changed eye color. finally i Blurred the ear pink. please approve this! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

I don't know, she still looks pale gray to me--Nightfall101 23:40, November 10, 2009 (UTC) I dont see anywhere she is pale grey. Except for the shading.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

(S) - I can tell you changed the eye, but maybe make it a darker green, like on her warrior image. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:18, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

I have a few things and although I don't often do them, I've drawn you a diagram (yay!) to help show you what I mean.

Okay: the red circle shows where I don't think you need the shading as it wouldn't go around the whole lineart of the tail. The purple shows where you need to add shading, the blue shows where the lieart is blurred. You also need to blur all the shading into the pelt as it's quite messy. The background needs to be made transparent and the ear pink is too bright (I put a patch of the colour I would recommend next to the ear although there are other colours that can be used on white cats and look good) Hope this helps =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:16, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Darken the belly shading more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:46, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Applefur - For Approval
Yay! Applekit comes back! But we still never know what happened to Marshkit. =( Anyway, here she is. I felt kind of bad cluttering up the page, but since Adderfang's in the "24-Hour-Stage", I thought you guys would be able to forgive me. =) Comments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:03, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is good! I know that it's about the same color as her kit version, but make the ear pink brighter, but not too bright.-- *Minn owc law*  21:23, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Oh, and the reason her color is a little bit different from her kit version, is because she gets a new description in The Fourth Apprentice. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:38, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

That's dum. I mean the new description not you. Make the ear pink have more color as now it looks pale.-- *Minn owc law*  22:04, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Honeyfur, but we're not making any TFA characters until the actual book comes out. You can put this up once TFA comes out, but for now this will have to be temporarily declined. -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:44, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is to Minnowclaw: I am slightly ashamed to say that I let the fact that Applefur had a false description slide. I just thought it was the most likely, and thinking that we'd never see her again thought it didn't matter. Truth is, I've never seen anywhere that Applekit was a dark ginger she-cat. -- Bramble -san  00:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

What do we do now? I'm I in trouble?-- *Minn owc law*  00:11, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

You're not in trouble Minnow - it's my fault. I relied on the wiki page for her description. I have a plan though: 1. I'll redo her kit version so in co-insides with the accurate description. 2. I think the image is going to have to go to waste as I can't think of any other dark ginger kits... unless I can have the image back and try and do something with it? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Also, temporarily declined until TFA release (I'm glad I saw this because it's reminded me not to post Beetlewhisker yet!) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is taking up space. Back up for critquing. However, when it is approved and archived, we just don't put the image on the page until TFA comes out. Compromise... gotta love it. :) -- Bramble -san  22:48, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, Bramble! Yup, gotta love it. ^.^ For the image, the ear pink looks a bit odd being circular, and it's also gone outside of the ear. Try getting it back inside the ear, and more triangular-ish. Also, darken the shading on the chest and on top of the head some. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:52, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:41, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Much better, but now can you darken the flecks? I can barely see the mottled-ness. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Soft Paw Blanks- For Approval
, I don't really like them xD.-- Darkhallows 03:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * literally dies of awsomeness* WOW!-- Shad owed  heart  11:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, these look great! Only one thing - the front paws look a bit... round. I know that they're supposed to be tucked in, but could you make a line inside the curve, just so that you can see where the paw is? (Sorry if that didn't make any sense - I can't explain it any better.) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Love the pose! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks you guys. || Is the paw/leg any better?-- Darkhallows 19:06, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

These are really good. The only thing is they each need their own file like the other blanks. -- Ashstar My Clan 21:03, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

The paws still look odd and they look very skinny, try making them fatter.-- *Minn owc law*  01:17, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I don't think they're that skinny. I mean, they're not kittypets! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:26, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

These are good! But maybe you could show part of the tail-tip near the head (if you know what I mean)? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 01:57, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I exist! I don't think that they are too skinny. They are feral, after all. As for the paws? They are a little annoying to play with, so I changed the first one. Better? worse? And I would Blackclaw, but the tail would look way too long then.-- Darkhallows 09:55, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like the other paws better. Perhaps give them a couple of claws or something, or make them slightly less rounded though. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:10, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like the other paws better, like the one on the male longhair (the one on the upper right hand corner). I don't know how you would fix this, but the paws on the shorthairs look odd...like the lineart is thicker or something. Try to make the paws on the shorthairs look more like the paws on the longhairs. Also, as said before, these all need their own file for each, not just one file for all four of them. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:34, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Violet - For Approval
Wow...I haven't done a real charart in like, forever and a day. I do apologize for my inactivity - with WCWiki, my stories, charart requests, and school for me to worry about, I haven't had much time for the PCA. Anyway, here's Violet as a BloodClan cat. Sparrowsong 21:47, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading some. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:24, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

This is great! Just a couple of things: --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 02:39, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * The ear pink should be more pink instead of the purpley (is that a word?) color you have.
 * Blur the stripes more.
 * Color the nose a pinkish color.

I know it's only been a week, but this hasn't been worked on in a while... -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:17, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

You're right Icethroat. Normally I'd say to give it some leeway beacause everyone's been busy lately, but the page has reached its capacity so I'm going to have to say, Sparrowsong, please work on this or it will have to be declined. Sorry. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:11, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry! I'll get on it tomorrow, I promise. Sparrowsong 04:48, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Lightningpelt- For approval
A minor character. Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 00:59, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

The white streak on her back would probably be on the lineart, rather than on the side of the pelt like it is now. Otherwise, great job, Hawkfire! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:26, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I echo Icethroat, and also make the ear pink more of a fine triangular shape, and less of a bright pink color. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦ <font color="Purple">Contribs 01:49, November 9, 2009 (UTC) Awesome! Um I don't really see anything *goes closer* Nope &#91;&#91;User:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;background:silver; color:goldenrod;&quot;&gt;&#39;&#39;&#39;Icestorm&#39;&#39;&#39;&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;sup&gt;&#91;&#91;User Talk:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;How&#39;s the prey running?&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;/sup&gt; 02:02, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Make sure you make it slightly smaller, as we probably wouldn't be able to see it all. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:04, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made the streak on the back, and worked on her stripes and ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 19:05, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

nice work. but now I can hardley see the streak. maybe make it a bit bigger and longer. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Your tabby stripes seem to be blurred. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:56, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Leopardfoot (Q) for approval
Wanted to do another queen. Comments?--<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! Just thicken the shading and she'll be ready. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:17, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Also, blur the shading more.-- *Minn owc law*  00:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:20, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:32, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

The shading's too dark, it needs lightened. Also, the ear pink needs to be longer in the ear, since the ear's big the ear pink has to be bigger with it. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 15:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading, made the ear pink longer, and because of my pickyness, I tweaked the eyes a little bit. What else? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:30, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading more and she'll be ready Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:13, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 19:49, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Hollyflower (W)- For Approval
-- Darkhallows 07:24, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Shady... I'll never learn how to do that furry effect like you do... *drowns in awesomeness* The only thing is that the shading should be darkened a bit. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:15, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I can't see the shading on the white parts and on the tip of her tail and rear legs look black. Lighten them up to look like a dark gray like the others.-- *Minn owc law*  23:59, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, played with the shading.- Darkhallows 09:46, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Her front foot furthest from us and the tail tip looks black. Other then that, absoutly georgus. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:04, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Brook- For Approval
I love Brook; thank goodness Stormfur didn't fall for Squirrelflight (Ew)! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 15:33, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, she's beautiful! I see nothing wrong. -- Mossy SC  21:19, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I fixed some stuff on this cat using the line art that you made. Sorry, I'm using Paint, so I don't know how to blur the colors.I hope you like It. Any more comments?

Nightwhisker98 Nightwhisker98 21:14, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Nightwhisker, instead of putting every reply on the bottom of the page, please put it in the discussion you are replying to. (Does that make sense?) Also, don't use Paint for Chararts. Use pixlr instead. Here: http://www.pixlr.com/editor/ -- Mossy SC  21:20, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Honeyfur, add a little bit more shading to the back, belly, and legs, and she should be ready. Very nice job, she looks beautiful. -- Bramble -san  17:13, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Moss and Bramble! How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:10, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'd say make the streaks a darker or more orange-like color so we can see it against the fur. Shad owed  heart  12:55, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 00:28, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Graywing-For Approval
All right, since my Shadowstar is taking FOREVER to get comments on it...here's my Quailfeather!-- Mossy SC  22:27, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Great, Mosspath! Thicken the shading and make the highlights brighter, and this should be good. Also, add a highlight on the head, and since this is a longhair, maybe add a highlight on the top of the tail. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:46, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Grr Icethroat. I was just about to say the same thing, but you said it first. <(-_-*)> mad. Just kidding! <(^_^)>. Do as Icey says Mossypath and this should be good. OMG! I just thought of a nick name for you Mosspath! What do you think of (I know it's odd) Mossy P. LOL. <(&_&)>-- *Minn owc law*  23:53, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job Moss!!!do what ice said and add shading to the herbs. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:55, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

I was going to say the same thing as Ice too, minnow. lol ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:56, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

This is one reason why I LOVE the Charart Project. Everyone is so funny! ^.^ KK, I'll get this done soon, I just felt like typing now! -- Mossy SC  21:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded did as everyone said!-- Mossy SC  21:41, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

This is really good, but, I don't think Quailfeather's description was ever mentioned in Code of the Clans. Ignore me if I'm wrong. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 00:24, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Hawktalon. :) I despise false description adders.... Moss, the image won't go to waste; you can use this as Graywing, another gray she-cat who is also a medicine cat. Just darken the color a little bit.(and change the file name) -- Bramble -san  03:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Phew! Thanks Bramble and Hawktalon! I wouldn't want that to go to waste! O.O kk, I will do so.-- Mossy SC  23:38, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Well, I made Graywing from Quailfeather. (It had no eye color on the description so I just kept blue.) -- Mossy SC  23:57, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add a highlight on the head, but make sure you keep the eye color and then fill the eye color back in so it's not five shades too light. :) Also, thicken the shading some, but make sure you don't get it too dark. If it's too dark, then run the highlight tool over it once or so after you thicken the shading and blur it.

One more thing, darken the ear pink. Run the burn tool over it once or twice, and then blur it again, and it should be good. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Snowfur (Q): For approval
Not that proud of her, I couldn't quite get the shading to work.



Comments? --Bluestar1776 22:23, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Some of the lineart on her ears are blurred a lot, and I can barely see any color on her nose. Also, there definately has to be some shading, and I would maybe blur the gray on the ear that's farthest from us (her left ear), it looks like a circle--Nightfall101 22:27, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - sharpened ears, darkened nose. --Bluestar1776 23:17, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add color to the nose, make the lineart on her hindleg and her front leg that is closest to us black, and lighten the eyes. Also add shading. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened lineart, colored nose. --Bluestar1776 16:03, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Drumroll, please!! *drumroll drumroll drumroll* Thanks, Echo, for showing me how to do the shading! --Bluestar1776 19:21, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I an kind of see that there is shading but you need to darken it slightly. Use the burn tool and rn it over a few times. Then use the blur tool to blend the shding in. Also, the ear pink needs to be more triangular Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:15, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened shading, fixed ear pink. Lol, is it blurry enough for you? Hahaha I'm just kidding it sucks. --Bluestar1776 17:12, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I put up two versions. The second one is a thousand times better, in my opinion. --Bluestar1776 17:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I still can't really see the shading on either version and you've now blurred the lineart... more noticeably on version1. Use the burn tool to darken the shading and then fix the blurred lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:03, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded New image below... oooh, shady...



There's still a lot of blurred lineart, mostly on the forepaws and belly. And you don't need to put the image at the end of the section, because the changes appear above. And don't forget to leave your sig so we know who you are. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:10, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Don't know if it's just my computer, but it looks like her shading turned into spots on top of her spine. don't know if it just me or not. --Honeyrose34 23:35, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

You're right about the shading Honeyrose. Try and brush it up a little, make it straighter and more even. --Nightfall101 03:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - fixed the shading. --Bluestar1776 19:11, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Looking good. But I would lighten the shading on her belly and chest, it looks like it's gray there instead of just shaded--Nightfall101 21:59, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - should I lighten it any more? --Bluestar1776 22:11, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's coming along great! Try and even it out on back though, it still looks a little bumpy--Nightfall101 22:14, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - lightened the shading on the back. --Bluestar1776 22:19, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I have to eat dinner, will work on it more after. --Bluestar1776 22:21, November 17, 2009 (UTC)



The red is where the lineart is blurred, and the blue is where the shading needs to be darkened--Nightfall101 22:58, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Moss- For Approval
My first loner. I think the shading needs work. Comments?-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:30, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think, If you slightly darken the shading (and thicken the shading on the back of the hind leg) it should be good. Nice job! :) P.S. Sorry I couldn't help with the sig, nice one!-- Mossy SC  23:35, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

she's REALLY good!!1just add a little more of highlights and make the ear pink. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:36, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Do I have to add a highlight? I'm not very good at them. I'll get to the shading and ear pink in a few. P.S. Its okay Mosspath, Icethroat helped me.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:40, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

well not really but either make some parts darker or lighther. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you're saying. Can you explain please?-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:43, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Good. Okay, I think i know what Sunny means. If you add a highlight in the middle of the body, it'll make the shading look darker.-- Mossy SC  23:59, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add ear pink. If it's there it's way to dark. Also blur the shading. Other then that, it looks really good. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:00, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry the earpink slipped my mind. Is this better, I darkened the shading some.-- Ashshadow <span style="color:cyan;">My Clan  23:04, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading around the neck. --Bluestar1776 19:32, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred shading.-- Ashshadow My Clan 21:32, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Where the hindleg meets the belly there is a gap in the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:34, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did I get it?-- Ashshadow My Clan 21:48, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Swiftbreeze (W)-For Aproval


Here's my first charart! I'm very proud of the tabby stripes, they were hard to do. Well here she is, Swiftbreeze from Bluestar's Prophecy--Nightfall101 04:26, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is really good for a first charart! Just blur the white areas a little more, and perhaps don't make the tabby stripes so bunched together.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:10, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Wowzers, I'm impressed for your first charart! Don't bunch up the tabby stripes so much, and the picture itself looks a little blurry... try saving it in PNG format next time. --Bluestar1776 19:05, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Your pupil is gold like the rest of the eye, make it black please!!!--Honeyrose34 20:07, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink just a little bit smaller. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:21, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

How do I save it in png format?--Nightfall101 02:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well when you save the image on pixlr, a box will come titled, 'Save Image' Bring down the list next to 'Format' and choose PNG. Follow me? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:41, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! I'll get to work on it--Nightfall101 21:48, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Is this better?--Nightfall101 03:18, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Logfur-For Approval
This is Logfur. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:46, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the stripes or lighten the pelt because it's hard to see them.-- *Minn owc law*  20:18, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

It might just be me, but the image looks very dark and very red and there seems to be some paler grey/white on the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:25, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

The image is really really dark. The image needs lightened a lot. Try the dodge tool on 100% size 100 or 200, so you get the entire image. Use the tool about three or four times, or maybe six or seven. Until you think it's bright enough, which you'll probably know. Also, the lineart does look gray in some areas. From what I can see of it, though, the tabby stripes look very nice. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:49, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat, it's waaaaay to dark. And I do see the gray lineart. But I really like the stripes!--Nightfall101 05:38, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It did say Dark Brown but it looks like this is to dark :) I will do this ASAP. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 13:28, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Waaaaay to dark, I can barely see the stripes. The shading is good, though. --Bluestar1776 19:04, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've brightened the brown colour, and removed the gray from the outline (replaced with black). Hope that's okay :) - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:00, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Now it looks somewhat reddish rather than dark brown. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:07, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I agree w/ Rainwhisker, maybe make it just plain dark brown, not to bright, not too dark. Do get what i am saying, my friends say that i talk like i'm from a diff country! Anyway, just don't make it too red looking. --Honeyrose34 23:32, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sparrowpelt (W) - For Approval
Okay, so I'm really sorry Shady but I checked the timings of the reservations and I did have him on my current projects before you. I would have let you have him but I'd already made him... Construtments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:43, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the stripes so it's easier to distinguish them from the pelt better.-- *Minn owc law*  20:14, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

lol. How did I know I'd never get the stripes right? I made them as dark as Braveheart's to start with, but I guess it goes to show how even two images so similar and made in exactly the same way can be so different. I went over them with the burn tool. Any better? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:23, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

No problem Sandy. I thought I had checked. -- Darkhallows 22:46, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Sweetpaw (A) - For Approval
um... not much to say... I don't even know her character as I haven't read Bluestar's Prophecy but she needed an image and wasn't reserved so... constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:43, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't know how to do torties and I am terrible at the, but this is great from what I can see besides the ear pink is very fadded into the pelt.-- *Minn owc law*  20:10, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Minnow. I know what you mean about torties... I suck, but I think I'm getting there. Reuploaded. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:21, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Nice, Sandy! But she needs more white since she is tortoiseshell-and-white; this looks like a regular tortie, which is usually mostly black/dark brown with small ginger blotches and maybe a little bit of white, while tortoiseshell-and-white cats have a significant amount of white on them. Often, they're just white cats with black and orange patches here and there. Here are some pictures of tortoiseshell-and-white/calico cats: http://images.google.com/images?q=calico%20cat&rls=com.microsoft:en-ca:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7DACA_en-GB&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi. Hope that helps! :) Sparrowsong 22:07, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

This isn't too bad, but the ginger looks too yellowish, and needs to be more ginger. Also, someone must have added a partially incorrect description for Sweetpaw. Right here where I have BP with me, on page 47 is specifically says "...And Sweetkit, who white with tortoiseshell patches, was named after Pinestar's mother, Sweetbriar...", so there needs to be a lot more white, and as I said before, the ginger needs to be more ginger than yellow. This looks like a great start, though! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:23, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad it wasn't too bad Icethroat ^_^ I'm sorry, but I had to rely on the description on her page so I had a different image of her in my mind than the one that I got from reading that quote. I've completely redone her image and started with a white base as opposed to a black one. I tried to base it on the images you posted, (thank you Sparrowsong) but I'm not sure how well it turned out... anyways (a definite americanism there...), I used a more orangey ginger this time so constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:17, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Great! Much better! Add some shading on the white part of the pelt, and darken the back ear, and this should be ready. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 15:47, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, there was already shading on the white but I darkened it. And blah blah, I have nothing to say for the ear, i fixed it. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:16, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Fantastic! Just lighten the ear pink some, and it should be good; the ear pink's just a little too dark right now. The dodge tool once or twice should do the trick. Great job! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 16:26, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:01, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Yayy Sandy! ^.^ Nice work, it's just my opinion, but I think it's pretty much ready. (But who am I to say that?)-- Mossy SC  21:52, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Mossy, everyone's opinion is valuable. x Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:00, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * ) Thanks!-- Moss SC  22:01, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on one of the hind legs, it sort of blends in with the black patch, but if you look at it closely, you can tell that the lineart is blurred. Aside from that, I also think that this is ready. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:06, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

There's also two white pixels on the back hind leg that you forgot to color in ginger. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:06, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I got it. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:53, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yup, you got it. In my opinion this is ready. --  Icy -chan  19:27, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I see that at the bottom of her back foot, their is a black smudge there. Also at some places, the coloring goes over the lines. Just thought that i should mention that before it's approved. Glad i could help.

Thank you to whoever that was. The black I think you're talking about is part of the lineart... it's always been there although I'm not sure why. If that's not what you meant then please clarify. The colours outside the lines, I've had a look and I can't see where you mean, can you tell me where exactly? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:01, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

oops!! That was me. I still can't get used to putting that at the end of everything i do!!! Anyway, yeah, that was me Sandy!! --Honeyrose34 23:29, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Cinderfur (D) - For Approval
Technically he died as a deputy, so here ya go. What do you think?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:07, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

He's GGOD!!just add more the shading, and blur the ear pink. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 04:12, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

He needs a little more shading, and possibly highlights. Right now he looks flat.(I shouldnt say that, because the computer screen is flat) Ok, he looks 2-D.-- Shad owed  heart  12:59, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

The eyes don't have a pupil/highlight. --Bluestar1776 15:57, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and the lineart on the hind leg that is furthest from us is blured. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:32, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thickened the shading, blurred the ear pink, and fixed the hind leg. He already has a highlight in his eye. I sort of made a highlight at the top of his head, but I'm having a little trouble with them.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  16:19, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you darkened the shading rather than thickened it. Can you thicken it some more?-- Ashshadow My Clan 21:55, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well I darkened and thickened it, but I'll thicken it some more.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:53, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

You need to add a bit more color to the eye, and add a pupil/highlight. Here's an example: (Don't critcize, I just made this in like 2 minutes and didn't bother with shading.) Anyway, see how his eye has more color? Lol sorry meh image ended up a little higher than yours. --Bluestar1776 22:02, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Darkstar (RC) for approval
I like her name...Darkstar...XD-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 05:30, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like it, but lighten the eyes a little, or add a white spot to make a glare. (I don't know if that makes scense or not)And maybe darken the fur. Also, when I was reading Code of the Clans, I found the picture that went with the scene she was in. There was a cat somewhere in the middle that was most likely Darkstar, and it was a tabby. (Just a thought, you don't have to make her tabby)--Nightfall101 05:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

that's another Darkstar *reuploaded*-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 17:54, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I thought I reserved Darkstar?-- Ashshadow My Clan 18:56, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Actually ignore my previous comment. Yours is way better than mine. Can you darken the pelt a little more, it looks reddish brown right now.-- Ashshadow My Clan 20:00, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I really like this but I have a few small things. 1. Can you darken the shading under the chin and on the neck a little to define this area more. 2. The eye colour is too dark. I like the highlight in the eye but it's hard to distinguish the dark blue from the black of the lineart. 3. The ear pink needs to be smaller and contained within the ear so some pelt colour can be seen around the outside. Look at Cloudstar or Sunstar. It should be a triangle shape and well blended Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:56, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Make the nose a little more of a darker pink. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 16:24, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think the eye color is still a tad dark, mayb use the dodge tool once or maybe twice. --Honeyrose34 21:32, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

This is turning out great! But I don't think the eye is to dark, it's looking good. But I do see four white pixels, two on the tail, one right next to her right paw, and one on her left ear. Also, the lineart on her left eye is thinner that the lineart on her right eye, could fix that maybe?--Nightfall101 01:36, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Shorty - For approval
You like?-- Shad owed  heart  13:06, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yes! This is absolutely beautiful! The only thing I can see is that the ear pink is way too bright, try making it more of a reddish color like on some of the other approved brown cats. Other than that, this is great! Great job on the tail! --  Icy -chan  13:46, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Very good! Just do what Icethroat said, and fix the areas that have blurred lineart (neck, top of muzzle, etc.) --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 16:00, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed ear pink, and erased all of the blurred lineart I saw-- Shad owed  heart  20:59, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Cave-Guard Blanks - For Approval
They're baaaaack XD With Shadowedheart's permission, I am now doing the Cave-Guard Blanks again. They took forever to make. I used many references to get the anatomy right. But, enough about that. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 13:14, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, these look great! The front two legs look skinny, though, compared to the big hind legs. These are probably the best cave-guard blanks I've seen, great job! --  Icy -chan  13:52, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks a bunch, Icethroat :D Love the new sig, by the way! Thickened the forelegs. Better now? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 15:50, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

These are way better than the ones I put up... Just two things: First, the part where the two forelegs connect with the chest/belly, the two lines are go too in into the legs. Just shorten them a bit. Second, the part where the tail on the longhairs connects with the rest of the body needs more of a curve, not a straight line. Otherwise, they're great! By the way, Icethroat, love the new sig! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 15:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thankies, Rainwhisker ^-^ I fixed the afforementioned areas. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:11, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

The tail on the shorthaired ones looks kind of... odd. --Bluestar1776 17:17, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

So, how do I fix them? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 18:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Make it more pointy, like the tail on the longhairs, but not too pointy. Thanks for the comments on my new sig! --  Icy -chan  18:36, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the tails on the shorthairs. And your welcome, Icethroat:) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 19:06, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think that you may need to move the showing hind leg infront of the foreleg.-- Shad owed  heart  21:10, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Could you specify it more? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 22:04, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg's haunch looks tucked in, and when a cat sits, its out. The flat part on the front of the hind leg should be curved to look like its in front.Also, the front legs back around the hind leg is different on the long and short haired. Shad owed  heart  22:21, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Ah, I see what you mean now. I fixed the legs. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 22:50, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Frostfur (W)-For Approval
Yesh! Here we go! Frostfur as a warrior! Constructive Criticism?-- Moss SC  22:58, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

She's great Moss!!!All I can see is blur teh ear pink a little more. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 23:03, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Also make the ear pink less of a floresint color. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 23:07, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded better?-- Moss SC  23:17, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

She looks a little too gray.Stonestar 01:11, November 16, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

She looks okay to me... May be my computer again though Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:59, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Nope, it's not just your computer, she looks fine to me too. :) Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 21:47, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Can I join?
Hi there, I'd like to join the PCA as an Apprentice =). I can't wait to color images like you! Holly&lt;3 15:38, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to the project! I've added you in as an apprentice and assigned you a mentor: User:Hawkfire98. =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:05, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Graymist (W) - For Approval
Well, my third tabby, my second recent tabby. How bad is it? --  Icy -chan  23:15, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

She's great, but doesn't look very tabbyish as more stripish.(ugg Minnow has brain freeze and can't think!) -- *Minn owc law*  01:34, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I pruposely made the tabby stripes stripe-ish. So...how would I fix them to look less stripe-ish? I tried to use an Echomist effect on the tabby stripes, but evidentally, I failed. (lol) How would I make the tabby stripes look better? --  Icy -chan  02:07, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hollowbelly (W) - For Approval
I'm pretty proud of this image, actually, but I guess I'll wait to say anything until I get everyone else's opinions. :) I'm not sure if I went crazy on the highlights or not...Comments and suggestions? --  Icy -chan  23:17, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Awesome!!! All i see is the eye is very bright. Maybe use the dodge tool or something 'cause i think it's a little too bright for the cat. Otherwise than that, great job!!! --Honeyrose34 23:25, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The dodge tool would just make the image brighter, and the burn tool would be too dark, so I just changed the color of the green to a darker green and filled it back in with the paint bucket. Better? --  Icy -chan  23:35, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. Yeah, it looks much better. Great job!! -- Honeyrose34 00:34, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Whiskerpaw (A) - For Approval
Here's Whiskerpaw. My 1st cat! I know, i didn't do shading, but you can tell me how. Anyway, other comments? -- Honeyrose34 00:10, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like a lot of lineart is missing. Aside from the lineart, here's how you do shading: Get the burn tool at about 50%, change the brush size to about 5 or 7, and run it along the lineart. Then, get the blur tool, and blur that into the pelt. Then, you can add highlights if you want.

Also, the ear pink needs blurred, and the entire image looks pixely, try saving the image as png next time. To replace the lineart, you'll have to ask Bramble, I'm not good at that. Sorry. --  Icy -chan  01:19, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

What I do to replace the line art is to take the base again and make the inside transparent, copy it on to the image you have and make it right over the missing line art. Also, the eye needs a pupil.-- *Minn owc law*  01:31, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Whitefang - for approval
Thanks for the list Sandy. So we don't clash, I'm working backwards. GRRRR... I hate white cats, but here he is.-- *Minn owc law*  01:29, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job, Minnow. Just add ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 01:40, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Weedwhisker - for approval
...-- *Minn owc law*  02:00, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Way better than mine by a long shot. Just blend the shading on the thigh and he will be good. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 02:47, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Dawnflower (W) - for approval


Not much to say... --<span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 05:24, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

She's really pretty!!!Could you just make the pink in her ear darker? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 22:00, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reedstar- For Approval
My first leader. Comments?-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:21, November 17, 2009 (UTC)