Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Rainwhisker - For Approval
I did this one for Rainwhisker. Hope you guys like it. Eaglebranch 14:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I like it, Eagle(can i call you that?), but Rainwhisker is kind of a darker gray than this shade. But other than that, the shading's good and he rocks! --Bramble 15:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * First off, the character is dark, rather than mediume gray so the shade will need to adjusted. Then there's the shading, which is in need of a bit of work. The character still looks very flat and the edges of the shaded areas are very very distinct rather than blended as they should be. It's a nice start, but needs some work.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Kitsu's right about the shading and color, but I think you did a great job on the fur! GB (Grocery store) 15:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Like this? Eaglebranch 18:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Much better! GB (Grocery store) 18:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * While the shade is better... There's not a halo-effect around the darker (correct) color, creating a pale-gray line all the way around the body color section. That's not much better, It's just about even up with where it was. Eaglebranch, You'll need to fix that pale line around the edges and then shade it.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 20:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Right, I got rid of the halo and then shaded so that he would look rounder on the edges. I think it looks better. Eaglebranch 14:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Definitely improved. But the shading could be intensified (reference some other, accepted, pixels). Right now it on the minimal side and isn't fully giving dept the to the image.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Version number 4. I took your advice Kitsu and bumped up the shading. Whadya guys think? Eaglebranch Talk 15:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I say that you could just add a little more shading and blur it together. Other than that, I think its great. --Shim 02:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Shim! Whadda you think Gorse?.   Eaglebranch (Talk) 13:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Gorse has been crazy-busy of late. But I do still have issues... Namely, that the shading is still all really hard-edged. Which is very inconsistent with the style the other finished pieces are using...  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Mistyfoot - For Approval
I drew Mistyfoot, how do you guys like it?FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Please sign your username when you offer up an image. I think it looks good. Maybe a little more shading in the front. Other than that, it looks fine. The fact that she's a deputy though makes me wonder. Eaglebranch Talk 19:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Asides the fact that I think Mistyfoot has short fur, her color looks about right and she looks good. The shading also needs to be blurred a bit. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I did the longhair base and used Blurtool. Now what do you think?FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Just curious, what is Blurtool? Eaglebranch Talk 20:49, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Blurtool is an editing tool in quality paint programs that lets you blur areas of the image. FxC, it could use a bit more shading, to make the image more dynamic... and there's also the issue of Mistyfoot being a Deputy... We don't have a Deputy Blank yet...  Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I was thinking...you made Brambleclaw with a warrior base. Well, you said you wanted pixels for every rank the character has held, and for pretty much all of the OS Mistyfoot was a warrior. FxC 12:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Brambleclaw was made before he was a deputy. That was the most current rank for him at the time. As for wanting the ranks.. yes. Eventually we'll want that. But currently the priority needs to be on producing with the current rank-image. We can likely forgive it being the wrong base since we do want past images, but I just want to stress that we should work in the currents and focus on characters we have bases for rather than making back images at this juncture.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 22:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Bramble is right about the need for some blending on that shading.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, I'm currently searching for another gray she-cat I can submit this as. --FxC **The Waterfall** 13:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Feathertail - For Approval
After a bit of work i've come up with this pic. This is my first tabby and I appreciate any suggestions for improvement. -- FxC**The Waterfall** 23:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC) It's good,but I think that the abby markings should be lighter.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 00:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Here is the updated version. How do you guys like it now? -- FxC **The Waterfall** 13:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Looks better!I like it.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 13:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... it looks pretty good, but if you look closely, there are some faint white spots. Are those supposed to be there? Grocery ( Grocery store, Cart ) 00:25, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

GB, do you mean the lighter parts? That's the shading. Sorry if you misunderstood. You'll see on some pixels, Brambleclaw for instance, that the shading is like that. -- FxC **The Waterfall** 01:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I think she looks like what she should look like.A mix between Gray and Silver,even though she has Silver's pelt color.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 13:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jay. Do you know where Kitsu is? -- FxC **The Waterfall** 13:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

If that's supposed to be there, than I think you did a great job on this one, FxC. Grocery ( Grocery store, Cart ) 00:56, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the great comments, guys. As soon as Gorse and Kitsu approve, I'll put it on the page. -- FxC *The Waterfall* 13:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I can't approve it as is. But I will say that you've got a great start and I just have a little thing that needs tweaking. The tabby markings look completely drawn on, and not like a part of the pelt. Mayhaps blend them in just a touch so the edges of the markings are a bit softer.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Kitsu, I blurred the tabby markings. Whaddya think now? --FxC **The Waterfall** 13:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's looking great. Mind if I get a little extra specific? The shading looks like markings on her. Maybe buff out the edges a bit so they don't have any sort of hard edge. Shade, shade, shade, Blend, blend, blend. That's my mantra.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:28, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How do you like it now? --FxC **The Waterfall** 13:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Crowfrost - For approval
Drew Crowfrost. The program won't do bright colors on gif images, so if anyone could do the ears for me, you would have my thanks. G B 03:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, when you are coloring zoom in, it will help you "stay in the lines".-- J K  O  03:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I know, I'm going to fix that shortly, as well as make him bigger. G B 03:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, did the ear. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 05:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Just a bit of shading and this will look decent. <span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this; Crowfrost needs some major improvements, and it might take a while to do so. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 14:52, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I've decided to give Crowfrost one more shot. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Crowfrost. Like him? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 20:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm going to not repeat the comments about programs here, since you have them on your other pixel. Once again, not a bad start. The eyes need doing. I'd say use a generic cat color like amber since we don't have a definitive color for this character. BLENDING. So important. Right now the hard-lines between the black and white are completely unnatural and need to be blended. Additionally, shading is needed. Highlights and lowlights are good things. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I think its really good, despite the eyes needing done like Kitsufox said. And some shading. He kind of reminds me of an oreo! ;) -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 20:28, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Added some more shading, and the eyes. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The white markings are still very very sharply defined from the pelt and look unnatural. The shading also isn't blended at all, and really needs to be. Right now it looks like someone dumped a pint of dark paint on his back... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 18:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I re-uploaded Crowfrost. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Briarkit - For approval
I drew Briarkit. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

A few things. One, the background cannot be colored, and also needs to be transparent. I can fix that for you. Two, the eyes are "missing." Three, there needs to be more blending and shading. <span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

1. I will fix the background, but I would appreciate it if you made it transparent.<BR>2. Her eye-color hasn't been said yet; if it is revealed in Long Shadows, I'll add it.<BR>3. If you can give me some tips on how to do the shading and blending, I'll work on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 14:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Idf you downloaded an art program you should have a blurtool if you do you use a darker shade around the edges then you use the blurtool to blend them together.--Redflare 14:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I reuploaded Briarkit; I attempted to some shading. Like it? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It's better!-- J K  O  21:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jakko! FxC, any comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the great comments! If there's anything else I can do to improve it (besides blurtool :p), tell me! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks better. The outline need to be black though. For the eyes, I know it hasn't been revealed. I suggest green - it's really neutral. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 02:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If we left things out to wait for details from the books, pretty much none of the characters would be able to be done. I'd personally suggest a generic cat-eye-color like amber. Outlines need to be black. Shading is needed. And the pink selected for inside the ears... It's rather... bright and unnatural.. Maybe suggest a softer, gentler pink. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Added her eyes. But I forgot about the black outline, fix that as soon as I can! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Did the outline. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Spiderleg - For approval
I drew Spiderleg. Any constructive criticism is welcome. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Siderleg has extra long legs I think, and also, try to add some shading.-- J K  O  20:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll try and do something about the legs, but he has shading. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 21:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I can't do anything about the legs; when I tried, I almost stretched him to death, and I made him blurry! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:41, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thats really good,it just needs shading and longer legs.I personally don't see any shading. If you want longer legs,can you cut somewhere,paste that somewhere,then draw a bit for the legs,then add the other part?-- Jayfeather Sheikah 21:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What you're asking for, Sheikah... It's a major affair rather than something so simple. For it to look right the back legs and back would need to be almost completely redrawn. GB... Blending and shading are needed. And a less fluorescent shade for the inside of the ears. Not a bad start, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe you mean Jayfeather, Kitsu ;)–– &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; undefined 23:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * P Yeah.Jay or Jayfeather.Sheikah has a nice ring to it though.SHeikah,the tribe of ninja-like people from Zelda OoT.That should be a nickname!-- Jayfeather Sheikah 01:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Spiderleg. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Nightcloud - For Approval
Thank you, Kitsufox, and everybody else for approving my other piccies! Now all you NightxCrow haters out there, don't get the wrong idea. I don't like Nightcloud, but she was easy to do and someone has to do her. Ideas for improvement or otherwise? -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 20:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Awesome,just what i would expect from Bramble.-- Jayfeather Sheikah 00:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I think you did a great job on this one, Bramble! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 02:41, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

A very good start. But maybe add some highlights in addition to the lowlights, to give the image more depth and more visual interest. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 18:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm flattered, Jayfeather! I'm not that good ;D. Thanks GB. I reuploaded, and put on highlights, Kitsufox. What do you think now? Any other things I should improve? -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 20:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * O awesomeness.

Also guys if you can see some stuff,stand up and then look at it.-- Jayfeather Sheikah 21:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Guys... Cooing and fan-girling aren't appropriate for project pages. If you really MUST do it, do it in private or something. We have more than enough clutter on this page as it is. If all you're doing is back-patting and good-jobbing do it either on the talk page of the image or directly to the artist. Bramble, one last detail. The ears and really really pink in comparison to the pelt color. I think I mentioned it with one of your apprentice pixels in the past. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I think the lighter-color shading should be a bit darker, maybe, so it blends w/ the pelt color more. Otherwise, this is great (besides the ears, maybe, I agree with Kitsu). --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 03:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally like the color Bramble selected for the highlights. Looks like sunshine on glossy fur to me... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I reuploaded and changed the ear color. FxC, if I made the highlights any darker I don't think you'd be able to see them. Does anyone else have comments on improvement? -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Harespring - For Approval
My first attempt at making a pixel. I know there's a lot wrong with it, but anyway. Criticize away :–– &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; undefined 19:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My first impression involves the fact that I see strait lines. Which are not natural ;) Rough 'em up. Definetly not a bad start, though. You do need blending, though, on the markings so they look less painted on and more a part of the pelt. And it needs shading. I swear... I need a notice at the top that reads "If you haven't blended or shaded your picture it isn't ready for consideration". <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 19:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I blended it a bit more, added a bit more (of what I hope is) shading. Any better?–– &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; undefined 20:25, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The only place I see shading is on the back leg... You need more. To give the image definition and a suggestion of shape. The white markings are someone better. But there are still strait lines on the forepaw and tail. The pink for the inside of the ear... Is sorta messed up, too. You might want to take a look at how others have done it... Right now it looks off because the pink is too wide. Nice work on fixing the markings, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I added some more shading, fixed the ear, and added some more smudging. Gotta go, though, so I'll do the straight lines when I get back, sometime tomorrow.–– &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; undefined 13:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Yay, Eu's helping with the project! :p But I thought Harespring was brown and white; this looks nothing like brown. He also looks blurry at some spots, and I can't see the shading. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:07, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Rowanclaw - For Approval
I had a go at Rowanclaw. What do you think?-- J K  O  01:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Awesome,but it needs shading of course.I love the little part between the legs.It looks cool.-- Jayfeather Sheikah 01:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Made the shading more visible. Personally, I think it looks a lot better.-- J K  O  02:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * A very nice start. But right now the shading is just hugging the outlines, leaving the image looking flat. You're looking to create depth and realism in the image with the shading, along with visual interest. You might also want to add the tabby 'M' to the forehead, since all red cats are technically also tabby in reality, even those that appear solid have the 'M'. But that's not strictly necessary, I'm just a psycho like that. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

The tabby 'M'? What is that? -- J K  O  14:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

It's the pattern of stripes on a tabby's head that looks like an M. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Are you saying he is a tabby? All he is listed as is A ginger tom (or she-cat), no tabby. Should I add it or not? I've never done tabby, so I won't be very good at it.-- J K  O  14:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I added another version. Unfortunately, with GIMP this is about the best I can get with shading, but if there are any more issues I can try.-- J K  O  15:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Without full shading... I simply can't accept it, Jakko... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 13:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'm clueless in this shading game. Can anyone tell me where shading is definately needed?-- J K  O  20:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I think he could use just a little shading along his back, as well as his chest-area. His tail looks fine, because you can't get much shading on those tails. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Hazeltail - For Approval
Here's my go at Hazeltail. Please criticize me, as long as it' constructive. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 03:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * A nice start, but there are a few concerns. The markings have very un-naturally looking edges. Mainly in the sense that there are 2 distinct half circle markings (the one where ear and head meet, and the one on the flank). And then... Here we go... I'm gonna say it again: SHADING. *cough* Anyways, a few fixes, and you'll be good to go. It's an excellent beginning. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:39, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How does it look now? Tried to do the markings in the style of Bramble's Brightheart pic. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

This is awesome fxc!I can't wait till it's completly finished.-- Jayfeather Sheikah 13:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I really like it! I don't see really anything that needs improving, except for maybe blurring the tail patch a bit. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I think she could use a little more gray than white. Otherwise, great job FxC! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Flamekit - For Approval
My first go at a kit. What's everybody think? Personally I think he looks adowable :). -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Awesome!Thats great.-- Jayfeather Sheikah 18:34, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I LOVE Flamekit. He's my favorite out of all of Tawnypelt's kits. Bramble, that awesome! Way better than what I can do right now! Eaglebranch (Talk) 01:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

It's nice! Of course, some shading would be nice, but that is kind of hard doing it on a tiny kit.-- J K  O  15:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't he already have shading? Look on his sides and head, and you'll see shaded areas. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Just what i was thinking,Bramble.It is shading,but i little harder to notice than the others. Probably cause of the shape and stuff.-- Jayfeather Sheikah 01:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I think you did a great job, Bramble! Kitsu, is it okay if I upload another cat right now? I have Sandstorm ready. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Toadkit For Approval
This is my go at Toadkit. Please comment appropriately. Eaglebranch (Talk) 01:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Deputy Blank, why?
I was wondering why we need a deputy blank? A deputy is pretty much a warrior, just with different tasks. That doesn't mean that they look different?-- J K  O  23:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Mainly, because the cat receives a special kudos. Much like a leader, who's just got a spare 8 lives stuffed into them. It's not going to be a largely physically different, simply a different pose. When you get right down to it ;) A cat is a cat is a cat. The different poses are just to give a little variety to the images we use. and provide a little bit more interest for our artists, who (at least me personally) don't want to stare at the same blank all the time. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 13:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)