Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Archive 62

New Proposition
When user a is asked if they're still working on their charart that say, hasn't been uploaded for over five days, they are expected to upload within the next 48 hours. This happens too often without a good reason. Chararts are left up for approval, not worked on, artist is asked if their still working on it, they reply yes, and they don't upload for another week. Honestly, you shouldn't have to be asked if you're still working on your charart unless you were away and unable to bring your computer with you/you don't have internet connection. So, the time limit for chararts without work should be judged from when the artist last uploaded the charart, not the last time they commented that they're still working on the charart. Thoughts? 16:05, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, this gives others a chance to work on the image if they wish, sounds fair, you want to be here, you have to work. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:07, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Mhmm, I agree also. If you don't work on your image, why bother bein' here? 16:58 Mon Dec 26

I already do this unless someone supplies a decent reason for taking a while. And even then I advise them to hand it off. 23:09, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

I thought this was already the rule, so I agree. Breeze whisker  23:12, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agree too. It's fair. If they can't be bothered to help us, we shouldn't be bothered to help them. 23:40, Mon, Dec, 26, 2011

Can we also make it where if a user has to be asked more than twice if they're working on an image (Like, they don't work on it for 6 days, come back and reupload, then don't work on it for another 6 days, and so on) they have their image declined? People shouldn't be able to just upload everytime they get asked that and have no problem. It takes up space, and is just plain annoying honestly. So yeah, just a thought. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  02:32, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. A truly devoted user shouldn't have to be asked even once if they're still working on a charart unless they've given an honest reason to be away. 02:34, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Pale and Scarlet above. 05:00, Wed, Dec, 28, 2011

Gone?
I put myself on the vacation list about two weeks ago, and have not been able to put up a more accurate statement of how long I'll be gone... but now my username is not on the project apprentice list. I'm not trying to be annoying, I just don't understand. Can someone please explain what happened? 13:38, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

If you are inactive for two weeks or more, you are automatically removed. If you're more active again I'm sure a lead will add you. 13:40, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Tying Up Lose Ends
Miss me? While I can't say I miss being a member, it's certainly nostolgic being here. I never formally left, but I think it's pretty clear that I'm not around anymore. I don't think I left on the best of terms. Well... I appologize. I don't really know what I'm trying to get at, I guess just an actual goodbye. It's funny to think that it been so long since I joined... almost three years. Oh god my first charart was attrocious, does anyone remember my original version of Spiderleg? I've grown so much as an artist since then, although I'm still not very good. The truth is that I'm just not interested in charart anymore, or Warriors for that matter. I actually came on to read the info for The Forgotten Warrior figuring I might as well see what happens to the cats I've been following since I was a little kid but... Maybe I'll go pick it up next time I'm near the bookstore for old times sake.

Anyway, enough rambling, goodbye you guys. It's been a nice few years. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 09:32, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Also, why did you guys change the apprentice blanks and not the horrible rogue blanks? xD Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 09:34, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

We're working on possibly tweaking the rouge blanks xD. Bye Dark, we'll miss you. 12:23, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

May StarClan light your path, Dark. 15:42, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Aww, well I respect your choice, but you know that we're gonna miss you! Take care and hope to maybe see you again on here someday 15:55, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I remember you bein' leader when I first joined. (Never posted any art for 3 months) Anyways, bye Dark, may StarClan light your path. 16:58 Fri Dec 30

You were a great member, Dark! Good luck in life! 18:54, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

You were one of the best leaders, bye. 19:56, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Although I didn't really get to know you, I hear you were one of the best leaders in PCA. So bye. 23:44, Fri, Dec, 30, 2011

Bye Dark. You were the leader when I first joined. You were an amazing leader. You will be greatly missed. 15:57, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Bye, Dark. Never really met you, but I heard a bit about you. :) We wish you farewell!  18:42, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

A Question for Alts
I've been looking over a couple of character pages, and I've been looking down at the character art section. For Firestar, I noticed he had a golden alt. I was wondering if that golden alt should be a tabby, because Firestar is a tabby, and if he was mistakenly called golden, he would be a golden tabby? I was wondering about this for all of the alts, too. 15:45, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I kept telling Mint to make him a tabby when he was doing Fire's alt. I think it should be as it is a form of ginger, I'm pretty sure 15:56, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I've come across a golden cat without it being a tabby, so I think it'd just be the same rule as the gingers. 23:48, Fri, Dec, 30, 2011

Yeah, I haven't either. So maybe if there is a golden cat without stripes we should tweak it? 03:14, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

I guess so. 00:41, Tue, Jan, 3, 2012

Possibility for Dovewing alt.
Alright, so we all know that the chapter pictures usually depict main characters (note:usually). So, there's a picture that depicts a gray cat that is perhaps peering over a log. This was most likely Dovewing (Dovepaw when she was first shown in the picture). However, the picture has a paler paw, a pale pattern around the eyes, and a lighter muzzle. I know that there's no real proof this was Dovewing, but it's a possibility. If you disagree, I understand, I'm battling it out between myself as well. Please at least consider this. 17:23, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't believe that she would have an alt. for this. Like you said, we don't really know if that is her or not. We would need proof if that is actually her. 18:37, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, I've got something better than that. The cover of The Fourth Apprentice. Dovepaw was depicted the same way, although we can't be sure of the paw. 00:10, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that'd get an alt. because it is relatively minor, just a couple of shades of difference. Breeze whisker  01:05, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Just another notice
Okay, there's been some changes. I won't be on until probably next week, the most is until February. My computer has a virus and because I don't have an antivirus disc, the guy's lookin' for it. 20:10, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, see you then Icey, hope you can get on when you can! 23:52, Fri, Dec, 30, 2011

Suggestion for a new blank
I know I posted this in my recent comments, but I think it would be really cool to see a "prisoner charart" and a new blank for it. Cats who where prisoners in another clan (this applies for clan cats only like Yellowfang and Brokenstar) would have an image with it's head bowed like it's sulking NOT (sorry if you guys think i'm yelling, I just want to prove a point.) like bowing to someone where it's head is nearly touching the ground but something like where like an apprentice is being scolded by a leader. :D That's just a suggestion, so it's okay if you guys think it isn't nessasary, but like I said before it would be really cool. :) Cats that would have a "prisoner charart" would be cats like Yellowfang, Brokenstar(even though he was called an elder while he was prisoner, he was a prisoner), Hollyleaf (that time in Dark River I think where she was prisoner in Riverclan and squirrelflight came to rescue her), Ivypool (held prisoner in I think Fading Echos or Night Whispers in Shadowclan), Rainstorm (the fourth apprentice where he was in Thunderclan), Mistystar, Stonefur, Feathertail, and Stormfur in the darkest hour and if there are some cats I'm missing them too. :) Think about it please! And like I said it's okay if there shouldn't be one. :) 02:21, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

I don't really think we've seen enough prisoners in the series to warrant this... Brokentail, Yellowfang, Stonefur, Mistyfoot, Featherpaw, Stormpaw, Sol, and Ivypaw... eight cats don't warrant a blank in my eyes. 02:30, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Rainstorm was decidedly not a prisoner, by the way. 02:31, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

What about the healers, though? There's only four we've ever seen. Though I don't really feel we need another new blank 02:33, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

I think blanks are only nessessary for the rank of the character in the allegiances. Since I can only think of ten cats for this I'm not really sure about this. Most cats that are prison are only prisoner for a few chapters. Plus, sorta tired of talking about new/tweaked blanks. Sorry about the edit conflict x_x 02:34, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I agree if any should get blanks it should be cats for the Great clans, or even other main animals, like Midnight. 03:23, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Okay! :) 15:38, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Someday, I might see doing something like that, but right now there's enough other charart waiting that I don't see a point to creating a blank for something that isn't really a rank. Maybe someday, when Warriors' Run is up and they're not getting published anymore, maybe. Becuase the constant flow of new characters and character changes will stop. 16:25, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Erase tweaks
I was just wondering if I could go through the tweak week list and delete the ones that are already being worked on/reserved, or finished, it gets confusing with the tweaks that are already finished and the ones that still need work. 15:32, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure if warriors are allowed to do that. But I definitly do that myself too. 17:23, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Certainly! If you'd like to go through that whole mess of work, feel free. This also brings up a point that's been brewing in my mind for a while. When a users reserves a tweak, strike it out, it'd make it easier to see so that when a lead archives the charart after the tweak, they don't have to search through the whole list. (Even with cntrl F, it takes so long....) Thoughts? 21:06, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

YES, Scarlet. It's really annoyingly tedious to find all the ones that haven't been taken off the list even after a senior member (haha new lingo?) has archived the section on the tweak page. I agree with this suggestion wholeheartedly. 22:05 Sun Jan 1

Should we do the same thing for the images that were redone? 23:06, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Yep. Definitely. And anything that has been finished and approved can be removed from the list - you don't have to be a senior member to do that. 00:17 Mon Jan 2

Okay I went through the entire 'needing to be tweaked' section, I think someone else did the others. -- 16:23, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Nettlesplash Apprentice
Hi I don't know if apprentices are allowed to do charart but I was sorta wanting to do Nettlesplash as an apprentice, because he is a solid colored cat I believe and he doesn't have a new apprentice image and If anyone isn't doing him/requested to do him I would like to do him. 20:32, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Apprentices can do chararts. All you have to do is go to the PCA page and reserve him on the reservation table. Just make sure that no one else has reserved him (i.e. Ctrl F). 20:37, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Mousefang, Nightfur, and Oakstep
Poking my nose in things again. ^^ Would these three qualify for loner chararts, seeing as Spiderstar and Brackenheart got loner images? Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 02:13, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I think so. That makes sense. 02:19, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Aren't we redoing the loner blanks, though? 03:27, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

If they do get the images, I agree with Ivy. We should wait for the blanks. 03:28, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Good point. -goes to remove her reservation-... 03:32, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Dewstar(leaf) would like to join Charart
Hi, this is Dewstar and I would like to join the Charart project(s). I am not sure how the apprentices, warriors, sr warriors, deputies and leaders work, but I know how to make Chararts and make them well. I think I will be able to help with making the pictures.

Just a couple of questions:

How do the apprentices, warriors, sr warriors, deputies and leaders work (which rank would I be if I joined?)

Do you have to reserve a character for yourself to make a Charart? Dewstar(leaf) 23:08, January 2, 2012 (UTC)҉ ҉ D e <span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 255); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">w <span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 204); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">s <span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 153); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">t <span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 102); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">a <span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">r <span style="color: red; line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">( <span style="color: rgb(204, 102, 0); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">l <span style="color: rgb(255, 153, 0); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">e <span style="color: rgb(204, 204, 0); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">a <span style="color: rgb(153, 204, 0); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">f <span style="color: rgb(102, 153, 0); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">) <span style="color: rgb(0, 153, 0); line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">҉ <span style="color: green; line-height: 115%; font-size: 8pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">҉ 22:57, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not a SW, D or L and can't you in, but I can answer those questions. The apprentices work by creating art and commenting in project discussion and critiquing other images, trying to earn their posistion for a warrior. Warriors do the same as apprentices but can tweak/redo images. Senior Warriors can do the same as Warriors but they can add users in, and are Senior Members. The deputy can do the same as SW but is second in command, and the Leader can do the same as the D but is in charge of the project. <span style="">01:15, Tue, Jan, 3, 2012

Okay, thank you!Dewstar(leaf) 01:52, January 3, 2012 (UTC)