Warriors Wiki talk:Reality

Businesses to Take Care of
Project Reality has officially been started.

It has been decided by Atelda that we should work out the bugs before adding any new members. Here are the bugs I see:
 * We need to officially decide what articles should be included in this project.
 * We need to figure out when an article qualifies for a certain grade.
 * We need guidelines that document the layout of each type of article. (i.e. Author, Erin Hunter Chat, etc.)

Here are some possible answers that we can use:
 * Authors, Illustrators, Years, Apps, Chats, and any other article that is not in the other three projects.
 * As for the grading, we need to figure out these qualifications as a group.
 * As for the guidelines, perhaps someone could volunteer to draft these on a sub page of theirs and receive critique.

If there are other issues, please speak up, and voice your answers. :) 17:15, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

In the discussion about creating the new project, Helix mentioned that this project can also manage the front page, and the community portal. How does that sound? As for what the articles included, I agree to having authors, illustrators, years, etc.

Concerning when an article qualifies for a certain grade, I would say it's like a combination of the guidelines of PW, and PC. The article would need a certain amount of length as well as references.

Another issue is format. In the discussion, it was mentioned that for authors, illustrators, and such that something such as a charcat would do with a few modifications. Does that still sound good? Should we also have a different format for chats, timelines, and articles like those? 17:28, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that that would work. We should also include sections on biography, works, trivia, etc. 17:30, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me, I don't exactly understand what this project is trying to do. :) Can someone please explain?  HA WK FI RE98  17:35, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Check Forum:New Project. 17:36, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

So, my guess is this is where the Author Chats, Bios and everything related to the real word will be located, correct? It would make sense to put them here. Also, would all of the articles have the possibility to be voted on? I really don't think you could vote on the Erin Hunter Chats..but.. I think you get my point. 17:54, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

There really is no information on some of the articles (i.e Hilary Zarycky), so where will we have to get our information from to add to those articles? Wikipedia? 17:58, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Chats probably won't get a vote, but maybe a discussion for contributer consensus. As for the lack of information, we could always look them up on google. Would that be ok? 18:55, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. 18:56, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Guidelines are here. I haven't done much to it yet, just to see what other people think we should include. 15:23, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

How about including if the author has a website or official blog? I know Kate Cary has one. We already have pages for the authors and illustrators, so what we could do is see how Wikipedia or some other information source does their layouts, and get ideas from that, perhaps. 15:42, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

That's a great idea! Feel free to add it to the guidelines. 15:53, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

If I think of any more, I'll be sure to let you know. 16:01, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

About the articles to be included in the project, how about articles like the front page and the community portal? 19:46, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

The FAs would still be taken care of by their respective projects, correct? I think that PR should take care of the new releases, news and stuff like that. I think the Community Portal should also be maintained by PR as well. After all, it is the "real" part of the wiki. 19:51, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the FA's would still be maintained by the other projects. Otherwise, I think that it would be good to include the community portal and front page in the project. 19:57, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

And yes, we should include all the articles the other Projects don't have included in them. 18:30, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

So does PR take care of everything that PC, PB, and PW don't? Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:31, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much. 13:57, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

New work for y'all
Okay guys, I've got a thing for you that you'll need to decide how you're going to cope with it. Someone created the article Erin Hunter Chat 8. They are not, however, referring to a Wands & Worlds chat. What they're referring to is the recent Author Tracker announcement that on the 27th of July Vicky will be signing on to the forums to answer some of the questions in the Ask Erin forum. I know for a fact that it's 100% incorrect and misleading to label it as "Erin Hunter Chat 8", so I went and altered the article that was made to indicate it hasn't happened yet. The Ask Erin session will need some sort of article, this is true. But, and this is where you guys come in, it needs some sort of article name scheme and article setup to be worked out. So, I hand it off to y'all to take care of, since this is exactly the sort of thing you were put together to handle. 17:30, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Kitsu! I think an option could be, "Ask Erin" and then we could list the dates Vicky and/or the other Erins logged on and then under the dates we could have the information that was revealed. We can also have individual articles too like "Ask Erin session 1" and then just have the new information in the articles. As for the format, would anyone be in favor of including the question and answer like Q and A or just list the information revealed? 03:31, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm I think a Q and A would be nice so that way users can see a little more info and get a little more involved Oh no! emergency!   C a n y o n s o n g   Candypaw to the rescue!   20:01, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if I'm allowed to comment yet, but I'd like it better if the information were listed. The users reading it don't need to seem involved, as this is an encyclopedic wiki. 02:05, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, I agree. 22:25, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Same here. If we started doing a Q and A thing, there may be people that take it into their own hands and start messing with things... Squirrel's correct, as this is an encyclopedia-like wiki. 11:23, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, and what should we name this article as saying "Erin Hunter Chat #" is misleading? 18:17, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think "Erin Hunter Answers You Questions" is fine. We could put the number after it if she decides to do more. 02:56, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Squirrelflame. Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:27, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Userboxes
Has anyone done a userbox for this project? 20:00, August 4, 2011, (UTC)

This project is new, so we'll either have to wait for someone to make it, or not make it at all. I think. 09:26, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

We'll make it - we just have to take the coding from the other projects. 16:47, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

However we also need to have an icon. Any suggestions are welcome 17:13, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe a globe, or some image of the world? 22:38, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

That will fall under World. Maybe a pic of a human, considering it's reality? 01:01, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say just any human, for copyright issues. We didn't allow that in Project World when we wanted to put a human for the Twoleg articles. Perhaps a globe on top of a book...? Or maybe one of the authors? I stink at ideas xP 01:09, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

We could have a picture of a city?  ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  07:28, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

I think Kitsu has some ideas. We should wait for her input. 20:09, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

I like the picture of a city 15:29, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I think the picture of a city woyld make sense and look good, good idea Owl! <span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#000000;border:1px solid;-moz-border-raiuds:1em;color:#000000;border:1px solid;-moz-border-raiuds:1em;color:#00688B;">Oh no! emergency!  <font color="#080808">C <font color="#1F1F1F">a <font color="#363636">n <font color="#4D4D4D">y <font color="#636363">o <font color="#787878">n <font color="#8A8A8A">s <font color="#A1A1A1">o <font color="#B0B0B0">n <font color="#C2C2C2">g   <span style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#000000;border:1px solid;-moz-border-raiuds:1em;color:#000000;border:1px solid;-moz-border-raiuds:1em;color:#CC1100;">Candypaw to the rescue!   19:49, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

I also agree with the city. It's a good choice. ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 18:06, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

How would we take a picture of a city? That seems kind of impossible. :P 01:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for liking my idea. I don't know how we could put it together either though. Does it have to be a particular city? <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  04:56, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=city+at+night&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1366&bih=598&tbm=isch&tbnid=fpV7w3N5OUBObM:&imgrefurl=http://www.wallpaperpimper.com/wallpaper/download-wallpaper-City_At_Night-size-1920x1200-id-70986.htm&docid=M1jSPfmJpxi-9M&w=1920&h=1200&ei=nFhBTrnvNrS10AGs8LiwCQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=268&page=2&tbnh=108&tbnw=172&start=18&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:11,s:18&tx=47&ty=73 - This is a picture of NYC at night. 15:57, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! That looks perfect for a logo! :P I think it's great! 20:04, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

That looks perfect! <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  19:04, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

And, if most of the users don't approve of it, (or if it's copyrighted) I'm going to Portugal tomorrow and I'll be able to take a pic of Ponta Le Gada at night or something like that. xD 20:37, August 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * That one's probably copyrighted, but I bet I could track down something fair use and similar. There are a ton of images released as stock that are of cityscapes. 20:50, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * That one would have been good I think but it's probaly copyrighted I think too. Icestorm tell us what you get! I have no idea next time I'm going to the city. If we have a city at night as the icon wouldn't it turn out to be a bit dark?
 * that probably would be copyrighted. Even if it was dark, the one I'm going to has a bunch of lights and I'm sure I can play with opacity with layers on GIMP. Gonna have to hold on for two weeks, guys! xD 20:15, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * If anything wrong comes up about the photo, I could take a picture of my city? 18:12, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * that probably would be copyrighted. Even if it was dark, the one I'm going to has a bunch of lights and I'm sure I can play with opacity with layers on GIMP. Gonna have to hold on for two weeks, guys! xD 20:15, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * If anything wrong comes up about the photo, I could take a picture of my city? 18:12, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * If anything wrong comes up about the photo, I could take a picture of my city? 18:12, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I sent Atelda a lot of pictures. I'm waiting for her decision, but most of them are landscape pics, that also match Reality imo. 14:01, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I have the pictures she liked. I'm going to put up a vote, and the vote is called: Forum:Project Reality Icon Vote 01:46, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Nominations
Hi all, just wondering, when are we going to start nominating articles? <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  22:12, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * How can article nominations begin prior to the article guidelines being settled? 01:55, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm. Atelda wold probably know. ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 17:54, August 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm. Atelda wold probably know. ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 17:54, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Once we complete and vote on the guidelines, then we will start nominations. It would be nice if you helped out in completeing them. 21:22, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Template
For authors and illustrators, it was discussed a bit if we should have a template like the charcats. I believe this a great idea and so thus comes the questions of what info will be added and such. So what does everyone think? 18:22, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

That's a great idea! It completely makes sense to me. In the template, I think we should add date of birth, place of birth, list of books written, etc. There's probably more things we could add in, but I can't think of them right now. 02:53, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think I said I was going to make it, but I have not the time. We should also include awards. 19:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. 14:46, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I also agree. It's a lot better than a floating picture in my opinion. 23:40, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I agree as well. If I'm the average wiki browser, and I'm in a hurry, I'd know I'd love to see a small thing with some info in it, instead of just an article. DoB, age, birthplace, where they live now (if you can find it), if they have any close family (like children, perhaps), a list of their well known books (you can put the rest of 'em on the page). 23:54, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Great Idea <font color="#9999FF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed"> ☮Owl    <font color="00FFFF"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  X    <font color="9966CC"><font face="Rockwell Condensed">  Glitter☮..    <font color="FF66FF">4EVER <font color="FF33FF">The Peace is Perfect☯  05:10, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Good idea! At least almost every page has to have a charcat :3 16:03, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Great idea. If you would like, I could create it? 02:33, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

With Atelda's permission and help from Helix, I have created it. User:Icestorm123/sandbox 18:16, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great! I really like that template! Swee tflo  wer   03:27, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! 15:32, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Looks perfect! Good job Icestorm and Helix ;) 16:58, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

What's Next?
What do we do with this project? Should we brainstorm ideas

~Brackenfur66~ 14:58, August 18, 2011 (UTC)Brackenfur66~Brackenfur66~ 14:58, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, we aren't going to nominate our articles until we have some guidelines put up. We also need an icon for the project, rules ect. Well, that's what I think xD 14:57, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Wondering
I was wondering since on the guidelines it says all the pages that would be included in this project are we allowed to add those pages if we don't already have them? 13:40, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Check in with the project first. 13:54, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

And where do I do that? 16:04, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Just ask on the talk page. 16:29, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

i did this is the project reality talk page isn't it? 18:57, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yes...I meant, check in with the project to add those pages. 01:14, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

oh ok thanx. it was just a general question i don't know any pages to add. 19:24, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

Join request
I thought I had joined the project, but I guess I hadn't...may I join please? :3 20:39, August 31, 2011 (UTC)