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Berryheart (K) ~ For Approval
wee~ Probably won't be able to upload on weekdays but I /can/ update on Fridays. <: 14:23, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

It needs a white neck like the other images. And define the light on the legs, and tail Storm  &#9835;  14:25, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

oh god it's disgusting ;;  14:33, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs, tail, and the chest please you forgot those Storm  &#9835;  14:41, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

it's still horrible  14:57, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

There's literally still no light on the legs/paws. get rid of some shadow Storm  &#9835;  15:02, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Shrink the white on her front paws, please. They only look that way on the queen because of how long her legs are.

'''Better? ''' 15:26, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define and add depth to the shading? The image is looking kind of flat. Good job on this though! 15:35, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Ice, when you say "The image looks flat", you mean define the shading everywhere, right? Because I think that needs a bit more work upon touching :) Good job with smudging. Very nice. 18:36, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

I hate shading ;_;  19:11, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

You are still forgetting to put light on the legs. Define the light on the chest and tail and define the shading on the side of her face... This charart is literally all shading. Define the light everywhere. Storm &#9835;  22:37, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

The white is looking a little grey on my screen… maybe lighten it? Idk whether it is only my phone 06:56, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

It isn't just your screen, it's really gray, add some highlights? Are you using pure white? 11:48, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

I used pure white on her queen, which is the first image in the set, so you'll need to do the same.

She did use pure white, but it's literally all shading. Adding to my comment earlier, get rid of some shadow. Storm &#9835;  23:02, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

Latte, check this out 12:00, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I'll remove shading, but I'll do it on Friday. Sorry. 21:59, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

well I got some time today so  22:34, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the paws and legs... Chest, head, and tail... Storm &#9835;  04:28, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

imo it's fine, but if it's not, idek how to define it .-. 21:25, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

No. I agree with Storm. Erase some of the shading on the chest/add highlights. 22:31, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Please don't start the "its fine" thing. .-. Storm  &#9835;  01:04, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Storm, chill. Leave the enforcing to the leads, please. Vibrant, we're not starting the "it's fine" thing. These images are put on the approval page to be commented on before they go on the character's page. These comments are said for a reason, and no one's images are perfect. Not mine, not any one of the other leads', not yours, not a random warrior, kit, apprentice, whatever rank. That's why this page is here. Your white looks extremely gray, and in order to match the queen image, which I made, you're going to need to brighten up the white, as it looks like her image is black-and-gray, instead of black-and-white.

Soften the transition between the white on the neck and black; it's a bit hard-edged 02:28, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

'''Better? '''Skye, can you send me an .xcf or .psd or whatever so I can match the colors. (no idc about my email or shiz unless it's spam) Send it to here: mintiimonster.blogclan@gmail.com 13:49, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

There's still no light on the legs. Storm &#9835;  13:51, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Fixed  14:44, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I will gladly send you a file! She's on her way right now. =)

Define the shading/light on the legs. Storm &#9835;  22:45, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading between the left leg and her side and add/define the shading between her legs and on her back paw 01:02, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Still working? 23:41, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, sorry for the lack of uploads. I'll upload a new version later. 21:25, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

quicker than expected 21:32, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

...Define the shading/light on the legs......... Storm &#9835;  21:51, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

This is getting stupid ;-; 13:27, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

What's getting stupid? Being asked to do something on your image? This process is the whole point of the approval page, and if you're not okay with that, then I don't know what to tell you.

^ and please erase some of the shading on the legs and neck. I can provide a redline for you if you want 13:40, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

'''I'm saying that my art is stupid. '''The shading was still wonky, and I can't change it much. Sorry if I confused/hurt anyone here, I clarified. 21:53, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Your art isn't stupid. You're trying, and that counts. It's all part of the process. Anyways, define the shading a tad? Maybe add some highlights to make the shading stand out more? 13:28 Mon Jun 1

Define the light everywhere please Storm  &#9835;  19:16, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 14:22, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light source. Brighten the white a lot. Look at some other examples of black and white kits. Storm &#9835;  14:31, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Storm, I think you'd actually need to explain to her, because you are just repeating the comments without actually telling her how. I suggest you to either erase some of the shading on the chest and legs. Otherwise, create a new layer, set the mode to overlay and use white to color in the parts where there is light hitting, afterwards you blur or smudge it. 11:38, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Wikia won't let me upload, click for link. I agree with Fox. Please tell me in detailed form. 14:58, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the white tail-tip, maybe just increase the opacity or add more shading, and erase some of the shading on the front legs because it's looking very gray. Or add a new layer with white instead of black like Fox suggested above and blurring/smudging the same way as your shading. If you don't understand, let me know and I'll try explain in greater detail 22:01, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can you also try to define the shading/light on the back paw? Try what Fox and Snow suggested. 12:00, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Still working?

Hootwhisker (W) ~ For Evaluation
Ok I edited it. Looks MUCH better than the old one, the shading is much better,i added a pupil, i erased the waste, and i blurred the ears. PoppyShine (talk) 22:54, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Hey, it's gotta match Hootwhisker's apprentice if I recall correctly..-- Nachtide  The  Wikian   Squad 07:04, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

You misnamed it, it should be named Hootwhisker.warrior.png. Other than that, match his apprentice image as Nachtide said, smooth out the shading, clear the waste, blur the earpink and define light on the legs. 07:35, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Don't align your images. It messes up the page. There is also texture to match. Define and darken your shading. This should also be titled 'For Evaluation' instead of 'For Approval' since its your first image. Storm &#9835;  11:24, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

He also doesnt appear to have a pupil... Define eye depth as well Storm  &#9835;  12:53, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, since it looks like the redo nomination for the apprentice is going to pass, I'm not adding texture, so that's fine. But isn't this a bit smaller than the usual warrior blank? 14:39, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

It has the right size to me, but the lineart is covered on some parts. 15:00, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

It does seem to be covered in some places -are your other layers under the lineart? Also, there seems to be a random black dot between the ears. Can you either blur it if it's shading, or get rid of it? 20:23, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

I just realized "the random black dot" is a disconnected part of the lineart, so don't get rid of it. Can you expose the lineart though, like I said above? 20:22, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Don't align your images .-. He still needs a pupil. Blur the earpink a bit more as well as the shading Storm  &#9835;  01:08, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

How am i aligning them, it looks normal to me, the pupil and shading and earpink i get. PoppyShine (talk) 01:37, May 23, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

When you post an image it should be File:Example.warrior.png what you are doing is File:Example.warrior.png|left which messes up the structure of the page. Storm &#9835;  01:40, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

The lineart seems to be covered still. Are you using layers? If so, make sure the lineart is above the other layers. If not, I highly suggest that you do - it would be a lot easier. Other than that, define the eye depth, I can't see any. 12:15, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

It still has a lot of waste around the image. Storm &#9835;  21:42, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Say you reuploaded it everything you reupload :P 00:57, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

There's waste above the ear. Also, I'm having trouble seeing the shading, perhaps define it a bit? My phone's real crappy, so again  it might be just my screen  10:53, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

I redid the apprentice - the base colour is 424242, and that's not texture - it's just how I did the shading. If you want to make similar shading, Poppy, I used a 1px brush and used fairly large circular smudging movements. Of course you don't have to if you don't want to, I believe. 14:40, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Snowsplash, I'm having trouble seeing shading as well. Darken and define it please. Also I still don't see a pupil in his eye. Define the depth of the eye as well. Storm &#9835;  22:50, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Define/add shading to his right/our left ear and tail. And Snowsplash, I see the waste too, just above the left ear 03:25, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Add pupils, you can see some of mine for reference. 03:32, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

xD, since my computer screen was soooooo messy at that time, I thought the waste was just from my computer screen. PoppyShine (talk) 18:12, May 26, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Define Shading 23:59, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Move the earpink up a bit? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 01:57, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

I still see waste above the ear. Also please stop aligning your images. Storm &#9835;  02:35, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Move the earpink slightly upwards, define shading on the tail perhaps^^ 13:10, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

There's a bit of waste in front of the back paw closest to us. Storm &#9835;  16:32, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

There's also waste in front of the chest 21:39, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Poppy, you have to say that you reuploaded it when you edit the charart at the bottom of the comments. And please stop aligning your image. It messes up the structure of the page. If you need help, just ask me on my talk page. Also theres still waste in front of the back paw I mentioned earlier. Storm &#9835;  01:08, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I edited it and cleared the waste. I always name the charact Hootwhisker.warrior, how is this happening? PoppyShine (talk) 01:31, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

You keep adding "thumb|left" onto the end of your file. If you go into source code editing instead of just visual editor, then you should be able to see it. When you upload a picture, just upload it regularly. It should say just File:Example.warrior.png. You're putting File:Example.warrior.png|thumb|left which messes up the page. As for the image, define the light on the back paw closest to us. Storm &#9835;  01:45, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

How do you define the light? PoppyShine (talk) 02:09, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Erase some of the shading, since the apprentice image that you have to match doesn't have highlights. Oh speaking of which, I think you need to match the texture/shading style that the apprentice image shows as well. Storm &#9835;  02:16, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

How can i do that? I use Pixlr..... PoppyShine (talk) 04:14, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Storm, there is no need to match the shading style. Also, Sorrel said that the "texture" was the smudged shading. As for this image, please define the light source. I suggest using GIMP instead of Pixlr, as it's waaaaaay better. 11:24, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Well..... I honestly dont want to use GIMP because it wont work on my computer. PoppyShine (talk) 14:57, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Try Paint Tool SAI Storm  &#9835;  17:12, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Ok so where should i define the light source?Leg?Paw?Haunches?Ears?Head?Muzzle?Back?Tail?Chest? PoppyShine (talk) 22:54, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

The whole image please Storm  &#9835;  00:11, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I edited it and defined the shading, hopefully this is enough. PoppyShine (talk) 23:11, June 1, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Oops wrong image, here it is. I added some little line texture thingies. PoppyShine (talk) 01:03, June 2, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Could you possibly define the shading on the neck, and what are these very light brown lines I see throughout the whole flank? Storm &#9835;  19:17, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Just asking, is there supposed to be texture? I thought Sorrel removed it when she redid the apprentice 22:42, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

She did, you're right. So please remove the texture. Storm &#9835;  22:51, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Ok. PoppyShine (talk) 23:39, June 4, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Here. PoppyShine (talk) 23:56, June 4, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Poppy please dont align your image. I've told you how to not align them two times. As for the image itself, please define the light on the legs, head, and tail. Also I see that you seem to be just adding block shading around the edges of the image. Please look at the Apprentice Tutorials to get a better view on how to shade the warrior image. Storm &#9835;  00:09, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a bit more. 00:32, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Alright I reuploaded it. PoppyShine (talk) 02:16, June 6, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Did you check the apprentice tutorials I linked? If not, I strongly recommend it as the shading does appear to be the same as last time. Storm &#9835;  13:17, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, and you can also look at other examples of warrior images for your shading placement :) The shading still could be blurred a little more, take a hard edged blur tool and blur the edges of the shading real good. 01:56, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Also, blur your earpink just a little more. 01:00, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Still working?

Yes, I am really busy, i might get it done by Sunday.PoppyShine (talk) 00:05, June 12, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

What 'are you still working' means poppy is that if there are no more uploads within a week since the last upload date then the image will have to be declined. Storm &#9835;  00:10, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Here you go, finished! PoppyShine (talk) 00:19, June 12, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Oops spotted some waste, here once again ^-^ PoppyShine (talk) 00:22, June 12, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Larksong (Q) ~ For Approval
My first tortie! Yay!~ She's so pretty! Storm &#9835;  20:07, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a bit. I like her! 20:30, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Reups Storm  &#9835;  21:27, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Also I wasn't sure if I should have added the ragged fur or not... If someone could tell me? Storm &#9835;  22:01, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

The ragged fur cite is when she was an elder, so none of the other images get it besides that one and the StarClan one.

Define the shading on the main body. 02:59, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

I can't really define the shading on the main body as it's all over the black parts. If I put any more shading anywhere else on the main body, it will contradict my light source, as the light is shining at her ==> that way. If she wasn't a tort, then maybe you'd see it Storm  &#9835;  13:13, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

I'm unable to see any shading on the face- can you define that?

Storm, I'm pretty sure you can add some shading onto the shoulder because I can't see any there. And I'm also pretty sure you can expand the shading on the main body just a bit. Otherwise you can tint it to make it look bluer. I cannot see anything. 13:20, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Reups It is tinted a dark blue, so I can't. I tried spreading the shading out a bit, and defined the facial shading. The shading is mostly on ==> this side of the face because of the light source. And there wouldn't have been shoulder shading, but ok whatever Storm  &#9835;  13:29, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Just as a head's up, the StarClan and elder images are not tinted. I shaded with black and both of those images and will also do so with the warrior. ^^ Also, define the light on --> front leg and the backmost leg that we can only see that small part of.

Reups I don't have to tint it black do I? I'm not really a fan of black shading... Storm &#9835;  13:39, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

If the color doesn't match, then probably, yes. Shading tint isn't required to match, but the coloring is. I prefer using black shading on my images, regardless of how "bad" people think it might look- it's my image, my shading. Using black does not "sap the color out of an image", nor is it unprofessional.

I know you said you couldn't really define the main body shading, but maybe expand it just a teeny bit more so it's a tiny bit onto the white, or define it in some other way? Because I can't really see it all. Sorry to be a pain. 23:48, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

It's already expanded as much as it can be expanded. It's overlapping the ginger patches, and I can see it just fine. Storm &#9835;  21:48, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I can't see it either. Of course you know it's there- you made the image. If two of us can't see it, then chances are others are unable to see it as well. Also, it's not ginger, it's more of a brown. =P

Reups Storm  &#9835;  14:59, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Larksong (W) - For Approval
I love having creative freedom. I shaded with black, and all colors are from the StarClan image, as I think I've misplaced the elder one....it's somewhere on my harddrive.

There seems to be a black stripe on her ear farthest from us. Her right paw need to be completely white and her underbelly needs to be black, as seen on her elder image. Also just wondering, but don't you have to match mine? Storm &#9835;  00:06, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. That was excited shading, oops. Also, no, I don't have to match yours. You need to match the elder image, as they are facing the same direction- the warrior image is a whole new side, giving me creative freedoms that you do not have the liberty of doing. Also, the paw isn't supposed to be entirely white- you can only see a sliver of that paw on the elder image. What I did on the StarClan was intentional- as the OA of both images, I know what I'm doing and I was fully aware of that when I was making her StarClan image. I matched both the elder and the StarClan, and that entire underbelly is not just black. It's a combination of brown and black, but you can't really see that- I did what I did on the StarClan image for a reason. The StarClan has more of an upper view than the elder does, as that one is just a side view.

Define the head shading, if there is any. Snowed, you did absolutely amazing on this. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 03:14, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you 8D

Could you blur the tail shading a bit more? Or smudge it? Storm &#9835;  19:26, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Also sorry but i think you need to match my back paws/legs as my image came first and the others dont show the back paws/legs? Correct me if im wro g Storm  &#9835;  19:28, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I did try and match them, but given that I cannot see --> back leg all that well, and that's the frontmost one on this image, it's not quite gonna be the same, and again, it's still a slightly different view.

Lion's Roar (Alt E) - CBA
He was called ginger in The First Battle, so like Maplestar, he gets an alt. I'm pretty happy with this. Thoughts? Jayie Unwritten words~ 02:03, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Define earpink? Could very well be just my eyes 21:29, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Jayie Unwritten words~ 21:55, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely stunning! It could just be the darkness around his eye, but have you accidentally given him the female blank? 15:53, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

It's just the darkness, that's the male blank. Jayie Unwritten words~ 17:19, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

In that case, CBA? 17:13, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Mudfur (Alt. Mca) - Withdrawn
This is the alt for being called a dark pelted tom. I'll add the cite when I have the book arrgggh 08:25, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Define earpink in <--- ear, I'm having trouble distinguishing it from the fur color 21:28, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Bit of waste above the shoulder by the neck Storm  &#9835;  21:49, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

You really should have cited this before posting it, or at least asked someone to cite it for you. As of right now, this is still uncited, and if the cite isn't added within 24 hours, I will decline this.

I found a cite from Crookedstar's Promise where Mudfur was described with a dark pelt and added it to the trivia of his article. 23:08, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

uh if this is the cite for the nursery scene wasnt this removed because it was deemed he was called dark because it was....dark? the night was only just ending and the nursery is an enclosed space. 07:55, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

a "Dark pelt" is not the same as a dark shape. Ferncloud got it for being called a dark pelted she cat even though it stated that she was sitting in the nursery where it said it had shadows. Re-upped 07:59, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

i still disagree, brown cats can easily look darker than they really are in a darker space. and yes, i know, im not stupid, but its not noon light. its still an enclosed space which would limit the light and cast weaker shadows until it strengthened. 08:05, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

I honestly don't care if this is declined, but I'd just like to point out that a "dark pelted tom" is precisely describing his pelt color. I'm not going to argue further. Do what you will with this image. 08:06, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

'Dark pelted' does literally mean the pelt shade, I'm pretty sure. 15:52, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, since the scene does mention light filtering in, I think it might count? At the same time, I'm not 100% sure... regardless, could you please define the facial shading? I'm having a terrible time making it out.

Bit of waste by the butt/back leg/under the tail Storm  &#9835;  15:01, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the belly a little, it looks almost all black to me. 21:59, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Bye. 12:15, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Mapleshade (DF) ~ For Approval
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Define the shading on the flank or main body Storm  &#9835;  13:57, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

uh can you elaborate on that? 14:56, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

I can hardly see any shading at all on the main body. Could you expand it a bit or define it Storm  &#9835;  16:02, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

there isnt any to define. theres only shading behind the ragged bits and on the stomach, unless you want me to define those. 16:04, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Yes please. Maybe add some shading by the shoulder? Idk it just appears without shading Storm  &#9835;  16:12, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded diddly darn tried 16:25, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Mapleshade (Alt. DF) ~ For Approval
I was in a rush, so can it please be renamed? Sorry >< 13:39, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the white front paw Storm  &#9835;  13:58, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Er... Storm, both front paws are white. Which one do you mean? 14:57, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Renamed. 8D

Should the tail be bushy and tangled like the other images? User: Dewdrops56/talk 15:15, June, 12, 2015

Would it not make sense for the same edited lineart to be used for both images? Whichever one that is. 15:57, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

this is trying to match the ginger and white alts, not the tortoiseshells. and messy fur doesnt have to match. 15:59, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

My bad. The one farthest from us please Storm  &#9835;  16:03, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

I only suggest it because the linearts match for every other set of Mapleshade's alts. Also, perhaps dull down the scars a bit? 16:08, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Ragged fur doesn't even really need to match in general, I think.. given that each image is a different point in a cat's life, the amount of raggedness, for lack of a better word, is going to change.

reups I went ahead and added a little bit of ragged fur lineart on the tail. But with all due respect, I'm keeping my lines instead of recycling Skt's. His lines are nice and all, buut I'd rather keep mine original. Just my two cents. also the apprentice images dont share exactly the same lines  16:21, June 12, 2015 (UTC)