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Harepounce (W) ~ for approval
When I first made it I rushed so it looks like poo. I'm sorry. ;-; ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 00:31, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the haunch and neck :) 01:24 Tue Sep 1

Lighten the shading all together. 04:14, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Redone-ish by the former Skiddleybopblitz! Ech. I forgot to lighten. 22:13:55 1 Sep 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs? 00:48, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to sound stupid, but all of them or just X amount of them? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 01:31, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Would you mind defining it on all the legs? 20:25, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

And perhaps lighten the front legs? The legs themselves are a significantly darker brown than the other. I understand it's shading, but when you incorporate the comments above, it should look better. 21:04 Wed Sep 2

Reuploaded Posting this before bed so I may have 1,000% more errors than usual. If I forgot my signature then aw crap. -- ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 03:13, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the face and legs. 11:16, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's getting kinda difficult for me to lighten the shading without it looking too bad, at least in my eyes. Anyway, is this gonna get declined because I was in Fort Wayne yesterday and this morning/afternoon? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:48, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

i can't see your light source 13:32, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Don't know what to do right at this moment but here is my image of her without the shading blurred. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 20:23, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

I think you should remove the shading on the chest. Your shading seems to be over blurred, actually. Maybe that's causing the problem. 10:45, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded Dunno if this looks any different. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 20:21, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded again Played with the bottom shading. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 03:00, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload numbero tres smoothed out shading ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 03:23, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs? 13:20, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Im not in PCA so im probably not allowed to comment but define the eye depth? Pal124 (talk) 15:15, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Possibly smooth out the back shading a little more? 17:19 Sat Sep 12

Pal124, of course you can comment - no one is restricted to not commenting. Can you make the earpink a little duller? 23:06, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't know if anything actually changed. I did get lazy and use gaussian blur then smooth out some shading with the blur tool at a low rate (like 5). I might've dulled the earpink down a bit too much. Only thing I didn't change was the eye depth. Could I get a second opinion on it? I'm not saying it's okay or isn't okay, but I'm not fully sure. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 20:31, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

I think the eye depth should be defined a little. 23:54, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded If I made it worse then that kinda confirms that I can't define it any more... maybe. Should I revert it? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 20:25, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 13:20, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think I can define the light any more. It's difficult for me. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 20:20, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Define the haunch shading. 20:23, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:33, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Define shading on the legs, and tbh the shading looks a bit overblurred. 22:42, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

I am not in PCA but tbh the the shading does not look overblurred. --Pal124 (talk) 23:49, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Kind of agree with Pal, BC. Sorry ;-; Also, can you lighten the shading on the midriff? There's a dark patch of shading there. 08:39, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Can you please also dull earpink? It looks way too unnatural right now imo 08:42, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Naw, the ear pink is fine. Maybe just define the shading over the ear pink a bit? Beautiful <3 20:23, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded Should I add some shading to the tail-tip? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 21:57, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

just a tiny bit, not too much 22:02, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Teeny tiny tail-tip shading (Reuploaded) -- ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 02:06, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I still can't see the light on the legs, can you define it please? Are you shading the whole leg? Also, I think there's waste by the front paws (may just be my screen)? 13:23, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not shading the entire leg, no, and yeah, that's waste. I'll slay it when I have the chance. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 16:25, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded guess i had plenty of time when i said that comment from before. Anyway, I can't define the light any more (at least on the front legs) or else it's going to be back and forth with "Define the shading" and "Define the light" ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 16:36, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

The shading's a little blotchy around the head and neck and on the back near the belly. If you don't know exactly what I mean, I can give a redline if you like. 22:57, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

If you wish. I kinda see it but I'm not overly sure. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 00:59, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Here you go. 05:00, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I kinda overdid it. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:16, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Define shading on the haunch? 00:58, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs. 13:14, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the lower chest area. Very pretty! Frosteh

Reuploaded I dunno if I spotted a speck of waste or if it was a bug on my computer. Anyway, I'm kinda doing little bits of shading at a time so I don't have to go back and forth with "Define the shading" then "Define the light" and instead possibly having "Define X, define X a little more, define X just 1/64th more" ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 01:44, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

I'm really sorry but I still can't see any light on the legs. Can you try blurring the leg shading less, or with a smaller brush, or otherwise erase some of the shading where the light should be? 20:41, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's getting extremely difficult for me to remove shading while at the same time making sure I don't get rid of too much or all of the shading. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 21:36, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading. If you want, I can provide a red line for you. 09:57, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

That would be great, thank you. I've gone downhill since my last image, haven't I? ;-; ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 03:22, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded I kinda guessed on the shading locations. I did it almost everywhere, but only slightly because I didn't want to mess anything up and I'm already not feeling too much of myself. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 04:03, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 13:42, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt, but could you define and add more depth to the shading? It looks rather flat 18:34, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded I kinda darkened it actually, if that's all right. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 01:28, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Cloudberry (TC) (Medicine) ~ For Approval
I tried. Estimate, please, I want to be useful. I made "fur" light and shade. I took a flattened muzzle at Yellowfang. ✨ShineStar✨ 09:52, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you need to reserve this on the reservation table on the main page first. Everything that gets posted here should be reserved first. Until then, I'll need to decline this image. Feel free to repost (after this has been archived and you've properly reserved the image). If you don't know how to do so, please ask, and one of us will be able to help you. =D

How to make it? ✨ShineStar✨ 10:54, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I make it! ✨ShineStar✨ 11:39, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading? Nice <3 01:55, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Yes :) It is pleasant to you? It is possible to add? ✨ShineStar✨ 08:13, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I made shadows shorter. ✨ShineStar✨ 08:17, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the legs a little bit? I'm glad to see you found out how to reserve the image. =)

Can you smooth out the shading a tad? Also, this file needs to be re-named Cloudberry (TC).mc.png 14:25, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I completely changed a treatment of light and shade and I changed the name. ✨ShineStar✨ 11:43, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading/highlights some. 16:00, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

What do you mean and how to make it? ✨ShineStar✨ 08:13, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

New version! I made (sorry, my english is bad =) ) texture of long fur. ✨ShineStar✨ 16:32, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

blur the shading more please 16:34, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Since you had asked for like, an explanation: do you see how on the other images on here, the shading is super smooth (for lack a better word) and you can't really see the transition from base color to shading? It's just shading? Blur the shading so it's like that. Also: your English is perfectly fine, don't worry. 21:07, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

I washed away as much as possible. I tried in the Gimp. Also, i ise Translate. ✨ShineStar✨ 09:17, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Could you blur the shading? It seems like it was just paint-brushed onto her in big grey blobs. If you want some help with this, you are always welcome to ask a member =) 10:03, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

The transition from pelt colour to shading's a bit abrupt, you should blur it some. Gaussian Blur helps a lot :3 Also, the shading on the legs should be a little more, uh, defined. :3 13:26, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

I done. ✨ShineStar✨ 07:09, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

How? ✨ShineStar✨ 07:45, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs and tail, please. Nice job. 14:07, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

Eep, this is turning out beautiful. Define shading on the legs and tail as BC said, and on the head. This is great :D 03:52, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Please try not to repeat comments autumnbright. 14:55, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

I done? ✨ShineStar✨ 12:37, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading, especially on the legs 04:17, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Yesss <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 09:32, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

I done? <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 15:55, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Can you smooth the shading on the tail and define the shading on the front leg facing us? Looking great! --ZootVine (talk) 00:57, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Smoothen main body shading~ ^.^ 01:28, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I feel like the face is a little too flat, maybe bring it back out a pixel? Also, make sure the lineart around the face is two pixels thick. 22:59, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Rrrrr <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 09:29, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

The file needs to be renamed as File:Cloudberry (TC).mc.png 22:35, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

But, HOW? <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 16:21, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

I renamed it for you. You'll now need to upload under that file instead of the one you were using.

Done? <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 08:59, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

I'm really sorry but I still can't see shading that well on this <-- leg. Define shading there, and define light source on the legs furthest from us, please. 10:36, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Pearnose (Star) ~ For Approval
I miss blurring I'll smooth out chest shading and perhaps thicken the dorsal stripe in the next upload if there's going to be one. don't tell me they don't match cuz I'll agree with it

Darken the stripes? 13:18, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and legs? 14:36, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry but this is a biiiiit too red to be dark brown 23:43, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Italicizing and repeating letter isn't gonna get your point across. Can you make the earpink a more dull color? 03:48, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

...I highly doubt that was Winter's intention. Define the shading on the belly region, please. 16:59, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

In a moment^^ I colorpicked off her med version and used highlights but I didn't on the legs and tail, so I guess I'll take out the highlights when I get GIMP. I think that'll solve the problems

re-ups

re-ups forgot dorsal stripe!

Define the shading on the tail. 17:28, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups shorthair tails!

CBA? 01:27, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

im gonna be thatperson but this sint dark brown, plus i can still barely see the shading. 19:14, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups How many times do I need to say I colorpicked from the med?? This is already a slight darker than the med, mind you. I can see the shading fine, but I still darkened it.

Re-CBA? 20:13, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

then nominate the damn thing for another tweak. its not dark enough. and the stripes are blending into the shading. 00:14, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's dark enough, personally. 02:43, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups So you're saying the StarClan version and med version shouldn't match? Sure.

Can you put the shading layer on multiply? I can't see the stripes through it and I can barely see the shading. <span style="">18:15 Sat Sep 26

Rabbitleap (W) ~For Approval
Here it is, finally finished!

Please don't align your images. Also, define the shading. 03:33, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

I was just about to do that xD

Reuploaded. Here.

I saw some waste.

Smudge/blur the earpink a bit, and make it a bit less bright. Also, smoothen out your highlights :] <span style="">03:54 Sun Sep 13

He needs to match this image http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warriors/images/5/5f/Rabbitleap_%28TC%29.kit.png/revision/latest?cb=20150912210231 If not already matched. Ignores this if its invalid. --Dewsplash (talk) 03:58, September 13, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash 03:58, September, 13, 2015

Reuploaded.

Blur the ear pink 06:12, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading everywhere but the legs. Define the light on the legs. 12:26, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the highlights some more. 17:07, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. So beautiful.

Reuploaded again. Ugly earpink :P

Nice job! Can you blur the shading and highlights some more, and can you possibly dull the earpink to a paler color other than the bright pink it is now? If you need some more help, you can color pick from actual images of brown cats. 22:56, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm sorry if its not that pale.

Dull and blur the ear pink and smooth out the shading on the haunch; it's a bit blotchy 04:23, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made the earpink a bit more pale. Also what tool do i use to smoothen out the shading. (I use pixlr btw)

If you decide to rejoin the project, I'll add you in as an apprentice. And as for the image, smooth out the shading 10:14, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

The earpink looks kinda neon, can you dull it down a bit? #ab4526 is a good color, I'd suggest you use that, but you don't have to. Just dull it down more, if you want. 10:26, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Also, may I rejoin the project as an apprentice?

Smooth out the shading and blur the earpink? Also, remember to add a timestamp with your signature. 20:25:17 16 Sep 2015 (UTC)

How do I smoothen out the shading? PoppyShine 20:40, September 16, 2015

It looks to me like the shading is a lot redder than the main pelt. Maybe match it more? 15:02, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

To smooth out the shading, just blur it until it blends with the pelt more. 07:15, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Can you use a duller hue for your earpink, and smudge it more? You should reshape it a little, too - you should make it more, um, triangular? XD 08:32, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Also, define shading on the front leg closest to us 08:32, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Does this look better? Reuploaded.

Reuploaded. Made it look better.

Blur the shading just a tiny bit more? 01:18, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Match the colour on the | approved kit image, please. The earpink and eye colour are both incorrect. ~ Also, please blur earpink a bit more, and dull shading, esp on the main body. It's a tad too red 10:49, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

The shading on the legs could use a little definiton + tail needs smoothening, too. Sorry for the deluge of comments haha ^.^ 10:51, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

The shading still seems a bit too red, and I think it's leaking a little along the back. 02:39, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with BC. Define shading on the legs as well? 03:28, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Should i lighten the shading or darken the shading?

Blur it, please and add depth 23:24, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Choose a duller hue for the shading. It really has nothing to do with how light or dark the shading is imo :3 01:20, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

I suggest putting the shading layer mode onto Multiply, but you don't have to. 02:19, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Sagewhisker (MCA) - CBA
yeah <span style="">03:45 Sun Sep 13

Lighten the shading. perfect as always 03:48, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

uh actually I can't see the shading. but it could be my monitor 03:49, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Shading could be blurred tbh. If she lightens it people will be complaining about not being about to see it. 03:50, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Also, leangthen the whiskers. 04:08, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded. foxy: i'm pretty sure it's your monitor, because i can see it just fine :] <span style="">20:54 Sun Sep 13

Define light on her shoulder^^ Also just suggesting maybe you can make the whiskers on the outside more "outgoing" if you know what I mean :P

I'm not seeing any light on her tail...care to add some? This is lovely, Splook. <span style="">23:12 Mon Sep 14

I haven't fixed the shading critiques just yet, but I reuploaded a version with longer whiskers. This is the longest I can do without enlarging the canvas. how's this look? <span style="">02:14 Tue Sep 15

define light on the legs and paws closest to use and define shading on the paws and legs farthest from us. 02:46, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded. added a layer of highlights on those specified areas. highlights aren't the easiest to see on already white cats ;[ <span style="">02:58 Wed Sep 16

can you make the whiskers a bit straighter? they just tend to droop more gradually rather than right down. HotTeacher69 (talk) 10:20, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded. <span style="">23:45 Thu Sep 17

CBA? 23:34, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry to break a CBA but can you darken overall shading to match the other pixels better? If you think it's fine then leave it as it is. :3 10:53, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Eh, I think the lightness is fine, but can you simply remove the shading on the right side of her hind leg? Other than that it's perfect.

reuploaded. <span style="">18:07 Sun Sep 20

I agree with Autumn, tbh. I can't see the shading even when my macbook shows everything darker than it should be 06:51, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Tbh I can see the shading just fine, and like you, I looked at it on a school computer in which it shows everything way too bright. I could still see the shading. Plus if she darkens it anymore it's just gonna be gray. 19:04, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

I've looked at it on multiple screens and I can't see the shading. So I really think it should be darkened, if only just slightly. 21:17, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded. <span style="">23:01 Mon Sep 21

Lighten base a few ticks? 13:38, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

The base is pure white. She can't lighten it anymore. 19:16, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Well, the shading is leaking away in a couple of places. Namely the back. 12:22, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded. better? the shading might be a bit too dark now. <span style="">00:49 Sat Sep 26

Nah, it's good. Just define the shape of the shading on the paw furthest away from us and I think this is ready. 03:07, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded. <span style="">01:24 Sun Sep 27

Comments before approval? 13:43, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Rockfall (W) ~ For Approval
Okay, this is my first time doing a CA, so someone please give me some tips on what to do. :/

Ebs

Please dont align your images, and  blur the aerpink andwell as define the light on the back legs 03:00, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, this is pretty good! Define the neck shading? 04:07, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the haunch a bit. 12:03, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped Wait, how do I not align an image Ebs

In source mode, delete the little part that says left or right in the image coding. i just did it for you :] Smooth out the back and leg shading a little more. <span style="">02:12 Tue Sep 15

Add or define the neck shading ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 13:14, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and add/define head shading. 20:27:59 16 Sep 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped Wow, my PC glitched so i probs messed something up :( This better? Urk, positioning.... how can I fix it? Ebony Huo

Blur the earpink a tad more, and the neck shading still isn't that visible. Please lighten midriff shading too (ah deja vu) 08:29, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail and main body and define the light on the back legs. 20:50, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped Yo this okay? Ebs

Wait no it's not updating my pictures...... I'll try on another computer. Ebs

This needs to be named File:Rockfall.warrior.png. Please reupload over that file, not the one you're currently using.

Would you mind smoothing the area in the middle of the hind-quarter? It's either light or shading, it looks a little blotchy. 21:37, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped Okay, I tried again.... Ebs

Lovely! Blur the shading a tad more :] <span style="">01:05 Tue Sep 22

Define neck shading a bit more? 01:25, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped when you can't do neck shading rip Ebs

Define the neck shading just a tad and the light on the haunch. Please don't align your images. Also, this should be named as File:Rockfall.warrior.png.

Yooo Rockfall looks like grey matte XD Lighten the base a little? His apprentice pixel's a lighter grey than this. 13:36, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

This image came first. The apprentice should match this 05:13, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

The apprentice pixel's already approved, though. Does that mean it needs to be tweaked/redone? Also, I still think that neck shading can be defined a tad. 10:06, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Nah, I think the one that gets posted first is the one everyone else has to match, unless it's declined. 14:40, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Early Settler blanks ~ For Approval
thanks 2 the gays that uploaded for me :* i know they're way too big but can someone like recommend a way to make them smaller that doesn't pixelate them?? ty <span style="">14:11 Wed Sep 16

Maybe make the long-haired's tail a bit fluffier? These are so awesome! 14:35, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Try adding some tufts of fur to the back of the front legs/elbows on the longfurred. Cats normally have longer fur there regardless, but it would be even more prominent on a long furred cat. Also, try to make the tails a tad more.. rounded and soft?? It has a few sharp edges here and there, so if you could soften that it would be great. You did wonderfully on these! 16:22, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

For the back legs, do you mind trying to make the femur...protude, a little, if you get what I mean? if you don't feel free to ask - sorry, my brain is fried. 17:42, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Can you fix the paws, they look a bit off 18:00, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make the image smaller? 20:04, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know of any way to make them smaller without pixelating them - just make them smaller, use whatever tool on whatever program you have to harden the lines, if possible, and if that makes sense, and then go in manually and make sure the whole lineart is two pixels wide. Definitely make the long-haired tail way, way fluffier, as well as the cheeks, neck fur, and belly fur, look at the queen blank to see what I'm talking about. The far back leg (behind the cat) is bent way too sharply, and the toes should be facing straight to the right, not turned towards us. The paw on the back leg closest to us looks like it's lifted in the air, and that wouldn't work since the front leg on the same side is definitely lifted in the air, the cat wouldn't be able to balance like that; flatten that paw so it looks like it's set firmly against the ground. The lifted front leg, the paw looks like it has too many joints - either get rid of that bend just above the paw and have it held straight up with the toes held out forward, or bend the paw back. Also, your perspective seems off; the far front leg is much longer than both back legs. Make sure the paws on the same side of the body is even with each other on the ground. I apologize for the wall of text. I was trying to be as specific as I could. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:32, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

The tail looks a tad uneven- it looks a bit... Bumpy in some places? 02:30, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

The paws look a little thick too me idk 15:07, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Cats aren't that ... for lack of better words, "skinny". Skinny enough that you can see their bones. It seems like in this case the point is to see the muscles and bones, and I don't think they should be seen. However feel free to disagree with that. 23:09, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Here's a friendly reminder to not forget to re-upload! 06:53, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. bullied david into uploading them for me ( thanks nerd ) anyways i kind of butchered them while resizing i m sorry. also, superfluff. <span style="">11:20 Mon Sep 21

Ok so there seems to be a little too much fluff on the long haired kitties. For all four paws can you make the lineart smoother? And where the femur protrudes, the lineart should be smooth there as well. 11:36, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

On the contrary, I think there's too many little lines of scruff, if that makes sense, but not not enough fluffiness. Thicken the neck and cheek fur a lot, again, look at the queen blank to see the kind of thickness I mean, and make the tail a lot bigger and fluffier. Make the lifted front paw much thinner, and maybe just make it one toe facing us instead of both, that makes more sense anatomically. Also, get rid of the little toe thing on the closest back leg to us, those only go on the insides of a cat's leg, not the outside, and also cats only have them on the front legs. Nice update. :) Jayie  Unwritten words~ 12:17, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you enlarge the head slightly? 01:45, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

I feel like the leg that's lifted is a little too curved. 22:48, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Reminder to not forget to re-upload! 05:12, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Its only been four days since the last reupload, Fox. I'm pretty sure Berry is allowed extended time to reupload considering blanks are more time consuming than an ordinary charart image. 05:41, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

I know, but I don't think it'd hurt to remind her or something. 07:31, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

shes not always on a computer, she'll get to them when she can. also, with the front leg toe thing, maybe shift them up some? 12:12, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Can you make the heels less "poked upwards"? my horrible explaining

Heronwing (TC) (K) ~ For Approval
All colors from the warrior. 15:57, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Could you define the tail shading? 16:31, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

The shading appears flat overall. Define it please 18:27, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups  22:37, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Blue the shading on the tail? 20:49, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups  01:10, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I think there's some shadey waste below the tail XD 01:40, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups  03:09, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Define the stripes? 18:56, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

The stripes aren't all that visible on the warrior, either. If someone else thinks they should be darker too I'll define them. 19:53, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but I have to agree with Autumn. The stripes sort of get lost in the shading, I can't really see them in shaded areas. Also, define the tail shading. 21:14, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups How's that? 23:55, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

I still think the stripes get lost in the shading 01:56, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups Darkened stripes. 02:35, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

There is waste blow the tail 01:26, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups  23:06, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Dawn Mist (Ro) - For Approval
Ack, this one was a pain to try and match properly. Thanks to Fox for sending me the file. I tried, I really did. It was tough trying to match the white patterns from the angle it was at, and trying to get the colors and the texture right. I'm reasonably happy with the end result. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:59, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

There is texture on the white. Define it please? 06:09, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I think the main pelt is a little redder on the queen. Nice job! 14:30, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Smoothen out the shading on the tail, feet, and legs? 15:24, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I took the main pelt color right from the file Fox sent me. But I think there's something weird going on with the layers; the ear pink looked like a different color every time I made a new layer visible or non-visible, and the color I color-picked from the shading layer looks totally different from how the shading looks on the cat. Fox, how do your layers work? Jayie Unwritten words~ 18:33, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

I think some of the layers are set into "multiply", which makes the color look a little different. But I don't know why the ear pink is acting weird thou... 23:25, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

What does "multiply" mean in regard to layers? Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:27, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

It meaans to take the value of the color from the layer above and the layer below, add them together and multiply them. It usually results in a darker color and the advantage is once you get rid of a background, there will be absolutely no waste, since no color = 0 value. It typically blends the colors together better as well. 23:38, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

What does that mean, the value of the color, adding and multiplying them? So you mean the actual colors I'm grabbing from the layers aren't what they appear as on the final product? Yikes. I dunno how I'm gonna make the colors look accurate to the final product, then, if I can't just just color-grab straight from the layers. I guess I'll just grab bits and pieces of color from the final queen image. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:48, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Just set the layer mode to multiply. Which program are you using? 03:58, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know how to do that. ArtStudio, it's an app on my iPad. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:13, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

If you use ArtStudio, there is a box that shows you all your layers. When you select a layer, there will be a box on the very top of the window that says "Normal", that is the current layer mode. Tap that, and it'll show up a window where you can select your layer modes. I hope this helped ^^ 04:25, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Can you make the shoulder shading line less... "edgy"? ...Like softening it? holy crap my explanations

Reuploaded. I tried. I'll soften the shoulder shading on the next update. Jayie Unwritten words~ 15:10, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

As the OA I can tell you that I think there's got to be more orange on the top of her shoulder. Beautiful ^^ 02:34, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading a tad overall, looking great! 01:29, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Cloudberry (TC) (K) ~ CBA
I'm so sorry about this ;-; I totally butchered the shading, I'll take care of that in the next few days. Took the flattened nose from Yellowfang's kit pixel. Comments? 01:08, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth the shading out everywhere, please. I see that you are using a big brush to smudge the shading. Try using a small one, like a 1px brush or maybe use a size 10 bristle brush to create the furry affect I see that you are trying to create. 04:27, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Don't thumb your images :p 04:41, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded and redone: Absolutely hated my shading and decided to redo. My first time working with tinted shading heh ^.^ And sorry, Fox. :P 09:28, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

The shading looks a little too blue. Try desaturating it. Also, the light on the legs could be defined, on the tail as well. Nice job ^^ 09:59, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upload: Fixed all shtuff. Her legs look a little bluer than the rest of the shading though XD I'll desaturate it later. 10:45, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Can you darken the color of the shading? Not the shading itself, like the color of it as in tinted shading

Define the light on the <-- leg. 15:55, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, Silver. ;-; Can you explain it a tad more? 17:19, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upload: Burned shading if makes any difference. I'll smoothen later. 17:31, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

I think Silver means that you should probably darken the tinted colour a darker blue... also define the light on the back paw 22:42, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

If the highlights are extended and the shading blurred a bit more, you don't need to tint the shading. It's not required and the constant suggestions are starting to imply that it is. I use black shading on all of my white cats, and there's nothing wrong with keeping it as such.

Nonetheless, could you lighten it a few ticks? <span style="">02:40 Mon Sep 21

Re-upload: 08:52, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Aww she's so adorable :3 define the light on <== leg and tail? 03:23, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uppie: Oh gOD I LOST THE FILEE and I tweaked shading thankiew Fox 10:10, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Comments? (is this okay I think the three day timespan has already passed)

CBA? cute 02:11, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Willow Tail (Ro) ~ For approval
My First Tabby I know its not as good as winterflurrys infact its not good at all, but please be nice. Belllastar (talk) 00:47, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Nice job! The stripes are thinner on the kit, could you make them thinner? 00:53, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Adding to what was said above the main base color seemed more pale and the stripes could be more defined and darker and please don't align your images.--Dewsplash (talk) 01:05, September 21, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 01:05, September, 21, 2015

Reups fixed shadeing just saw comments Belllastar (talk) 01:38, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

The tabby pattern looks a bit overblurred and the stripes are a little paintbrushy; sharpen the pattern 01:57, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading as well. 21:09, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail 20:10, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Still working? 01:55, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

I dont know if I can, no matter how hard I try I cant ger the stipes right, I know I need the smudge them but its realy hard would it be within the rules tho have someone smudge the stripes for me I have a Non blured/smudged version. Belllastar (talk) 14:31, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

If you can't fix them, I would recommend completely re-doing the stripes with the Pencil tool at 1px instead. What program do you use? -- 15:21, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Pixlr and/or sumopaint Belllastar (talk) 16:50, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Red Claw (Lo) - CBA
All colors from the rogue.

Heh heh Pine Claw :D Define head/facial/chin shading?

Could you define the shading on the legs? 21:38, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

define the shading on the front leg in the air a bit. 08:47, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Comments before approval? 17:49, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Snake (DotC) (Alt Ro. 2) - CBA
ah mr sneky i see you are wering your fance top 06:18, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Define neck shading? Sagestream (talk) 06:22, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded 21:03, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Don't kill me, but I don't think he should get another alt, but we should just tweak his other alt to be a tabby, since I don't think he was called solid gray. I could be wrong, though. 00:30, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

no i dont think so, he was just called grey in the others. no tabby, nothingm, just grey. theres no implication of a tabby at all. 10:18, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

But- isn't /just/ grey a partial of a tabby? (okay this just goes with the alternate partial argument going on in PCA atm) 12:12, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

no? its not even in the same books. it just flat out calls him grey in the allegiences of those two, and i dont see why the tabby should just suddenly be added on. theyre very seperate instances. 12:20, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Nah, David's right. There's no reason to combine descriptions like that when they're from two completely different books and time periods. It's like calling a brown cat "gray" or calling him "gray-and-white". It's not quite the same thing as what a partial would be. Especially since they're not even in the same book.

i just realised i misamed this to boot, can u rename it for me jayce 15:50, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

please don't shoot me I think the ragged fur needs to match his other images. 03:29, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

it doesnt. 10:22, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded this is the correct version with the defined neck shading. didnt realise i forgot to actually uploaded it. sorry. 10:26, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

ugh can i get a comment instead of being ignored? 06:22, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

CBA?

Nettlebreeze (K) ~ For Approval
2sp00ky4me -- 17:04, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

I believe the ragged fur should be removed, as he was described with it as an elder, though I may be wrong. 20:54, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

its the only description we have for him, and we havent seen him as kit. its definitely possible (unlikely as it may be) 20:59, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

I figured it might be a Raggedstar case. He's got the prefix 'Nettle', after all. -- 22:07, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

We don't have a kit description, so I think it should stay. 00:03, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Is there texture on the base? I have a texture layer over the base layer. <span style="">4:21 Wed Sep 23

No, I did not add texture. I'll see what I can do. -- 17:52, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Got to love a newb's first try at texture... -- 18:19, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

if possible can you define the earpink a tad and the shading that isn't on the tail or haunch (whatever it is) area? 08:46, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. o snap -- 17:54, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

As per this comment, this needs to match File:Nettlebreeze.apprentice.png, my apologies. As nice as this is, author word trumps all.

Darn, this image was cute too :( Would you like the file for the apprentice? 10:38, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Nah, I'm good, but thanks for the offer. I'll just keep a .png of this version and re-do him, no harm done. Got in some nice practice either way, so I can't really complain. -- 13:45, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Looks like Nettlebreeze is back for an encore. omg his tail looks like shrimp -- 15:14, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Could you define your light source? 20:28, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I have decided: his new name shall be Shrimptail... and now I'm hungry. -- 17:41, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Blossom (Lo) ~ For Approval
I messed up so badly >< This a record for me, first tortoiseshell and loner. Comments? 23:30, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Define the belly shading, and there doesn't appear to be any shading whatsoever on the legs not facing us. Is that intended? -- 00:05, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

I think it is intended but you're right, it should be added. Can you blur the shading between the elbow and haunch? And define the tail shading. 00:51, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

The shadings looking a little flat. Define it a bit?, idk --Dewsplash (talk) 00:59, September 23, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 00:59, September, 23, 2015

There's texture on the tortie parts 01:31, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload The left legs shading wasn't there at first because I forgot it >< I think there's supposed to be texture, but I could be wrong. 07:26, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

I still can't see texture on the tortie parts. Also, define the main body shading plz. 09:05, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

I think the patterns on and the patches itself should be more smudged than this.

Reupload 23:00, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the patches more with a 1px hard edged brush 03:26, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 07:44, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on her front legs 09:51, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:00, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the neck/face a bit. 00:34, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 23:10, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

I still think the lighter pattern can be smudged more and have a smoother transition with the darker parts. 03:09, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

any advice what that? I if I smudge it anymore >< 23:07, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

It's fine to be honest. 01:30, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Can you just smudge the patch where the body meets the tail? The rest of the patches look fine. 13:17, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:08, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Stealthfire, this is beautiful, as always with your art. 00:23, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

I apologize, but I still can't see texture. Would you like the file for my version of the loner? I got all the colors and stuff from Beeb's file. 02:53, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Heronwing (TC) (A) - For Approval
Ayy lmao he was an adventure to do 00:53, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes? Sagestream (talk) 01:25, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

The strpes aren't smudged on the warrior. 01:26, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the pale parts a bit more? 01:47, September 24, 2015 (UTC) The warrior's stripes are a little more blurred, please blur them? Sagestream (talk) 06:10, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

imo the stripes are paler on his other images 09:50, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

darken the shading everywhere. 10:45, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 11:42, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail and the back leg. 00:30, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Go away roo 00:41, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

define the belly shading a tad? <span style="">00:52 Sun Sep 27

Re-uploaded: That really didn't do anything. 01:29, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Beetail (Star) ~ For Approval
God help me I can't match my pattern I made 7 months ago... (oh god making the deputy itself was a battle) 09:49, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Define facial shading? And idk I think the stripes should be a little thinner. dear god this is gorgeous 10:35, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

they should be a bit darker, too. 10:45, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

There's some waste on the back near his flank.--Dewsplash (talk) 13:32, September 24, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 13:32, September, 24, 2015

Re-uploaded did i get it? 13:57, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading some more. 14:35, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I darkened it a few ticks 01:54, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Comments? 02:50, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Rainfur (TC) (Q) - For Approval
Yes I know there's a bunch of excess and stuff that needs to be done so i'll do that I just needed to publish it before time was up and my internet was being screwy ahahhaah. I hate Icy/Appledash and Splook. 00:05, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

=( Lighten the stomach shading bae 00:20, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Add more white specks, especially on the main body, and blur them a little more? (forgot to sign: 04:31, September 25, 2015 (UTC))

Uh the declined one isn't archived. Can you next time please either just reupload under that section or wait for it to be archived? 01:46, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Roo hasn't been in PCA for quite some time, so it's not her fault that she forgot something simple like that. Lighten the shading on the ear on --> this side and the tail, please. <span style="">02:02 Fri Sep 25

Foxy was just doing a friendly reminder, there was no need for that. =/ 02:07, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

"No need for what?" Splook defending her friend who hasn't been in PCA over a year who might not be famillar with the guidelines again? Please give both of them a break. Roo is back and she's still new. Splook was trying to explain that. 02:16, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Well, Foxy was only giving a reminder for Roo too. there's honestly no need to be snappy. 04:13, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Um, Burnt, that was a little bit... harsh. Roo hasn't done anything on the wiki in ages, nor was Splook being snappy. It looks like she was being pretty calm to me. Seriously, there was nothing wrong with Splook telling Fox about that- there's no way she would have known otherwise... I think Fox joined after Roo had left.

Define light on the belly? 13:59, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Can we stop telling people "they have been here for five years." "they have been /way/ longer."? You probably weren't trying to sound like that, but it just does to me. I just don't know why every time something starts there's always someone that defends their friends by saying they've been here longer and I have no idea why it matters so much. Anyway, do you mind smoothing out the tail shading? This is literally /awesome/ :)

Let's not get into a fight please. 18:47, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks Fox for letting me know I'm still a bit rusty (haha get it) on some things. Didn't mean to start any trouble. -- 19:53, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

i'm sorry if I sounded snappy but I had no intention for it to be taken like this. I was just saying that Roo is practically new again so she's still familiarizing herself with the procedures, and that's fine. i'm sorry if I sounded rude, but that was 100% not my intention, I promise you. mind brightening the white a bit? <span style="">00:42 Sat Sep 26

...Splook, I apologize for my behavior back there. Anyway, can you'd fine the tail shading? This is gorgeous. 03:31, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Would you like the file for the warrior? And could you lighten the belly/chest shading juuuust a little, please? 10:43, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I'm good without the file right now, but thank you! -- 17:49, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Nettle (Lo) -For Approval
Ahh the texture took me way too long. 21:18, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading? Beautiful! 21:29, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

Smoothen out the belly shading just a tad. Wow, this is really gorgeous. <span style="">00:51 Sun Sep 27

he looks too light and his texture should be dulled down. 07:15, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:43, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Wow. :O This isn't some texture you get all day! <3 define light on his legs/paws?

Cloudberry (TC) (MCA) ~ For Approval
11:09, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Could you lighten the shading a bit on this --> side of the face 18:19, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 20:14, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Pine Needle (ki) ~ For Approval
him smol 18:33, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Swiftbreeze (K) ~For Approval
Baby Szellő ^^ 19:43, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

...... Sagestream (talk) 20:19, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a bit, it's making her look too dark. Nice job! 01:04, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Sagestream, if you didn't know, your image was declined because you didn't upload for a week. 02:49, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Stormtail (A) - For Approval
Yeah 00:09, September 28, 2015 (UTC)