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Quailkit (Ki) - For Evaluation
This was my first time trying a charart, I hope its alright. ill try to fix the things but anyone can tweak if they like! Winterpaw I'm unleashed...Run.

So, I changed the title to headings. It should also say "Quailkit (Ki) ~ For Evaulation~. And smudge the white on the belly a little more.-- 00:04, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Definte the shading on the belly, and the fur a bit. And the ear pink doesn't show that much. 00:05, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

And also, take the alignments off too. Like, the "thumb" and "left" in the image. -- 00:06, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I switched the heading to '~ For Evaluation' since it's supposed to be that way for a first image until a lead changes it. I also think the white shouldn't be as big, since it's only supposed to be on the belly, and not the chest area

'''​Reupload - i made the white smaller, did a little shading, and made the ears pinker. '  Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 00:27, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I don't want to be a jerk but, this needs to be named Quailkit.kit.png, not just Kit.png Shypaw11 (talk) 02:01, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

There is waste around all the body. 02:04, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

'''Reupload - I removed surrounding waste and renamed the file and added more things and made the patch more circle. how does it become approved again'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 03:26, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

The nose hole is empty, you might want to fill that in with a light pink color. --Xaviapaw 

The white should only be on the underbelly. Only put it between the legs. 14:05, 10/30/2016

Define the shading, and also the earpink color doesn't match the other image.

What other image? Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 17:12, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Her StarClan image has to match this one.

Was that image even approved? - Jose1106 (talk) 19:31, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so...its not on the page, and Quailkit is a he...   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:48, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload - shading, made the white smaller, made ears more like picture (if that picture is even approved) and made the nose better.   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:57, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Define shading. Are you using Gaussian blur? --  21:31, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

add shading on the legs, head, and add more depth to the eyes. you can refer to the tutorials for more help.

Reuploaded. Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 02:09, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

The senior warriors are inactive right now, please be patient. With the skills you have, I'm sure you'll be promoted in no time, and onto the critique: 1. Firstly, define your light source. Have a specific direction of light hitting the image in mind while shading the image: thats how we perceive shading in the first place. 2. Try to make the shading more visible to the audience. right now you can hardly see it in the way that it would define the shape and build of a cat. 3. The white chest looks unnaturally slapped onto the image, give it a blur/smudge depending on your preference.

Since you're being pushy about becoming an apprentice, I'm making this stay at "for evaluation". You do not decide when you are ready to become an apprentice, the leads do. I don't know who told you that anyone can do it, but they are very misinformed.

Ok, I'll try to fox up the shading, and I think the light is coming from the right, hitting the back. And hmm, the white, I'll try smudging it, but when I tried it it loved very pixelated and wrong, but maybe I can fix that.

Sorry for being pushy, I was impatient. I didn't mean to offend anyone and I know that was annoying. For the information, I just read on the guidelines that once you complete an image 50% you can become an apprentice, but idk. Sorry again! Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:01, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

The leads decide when an image is halfway complete, not you. You may think it is, but there are leads, just as there are in the warriors world. That's why we have senior warriors, a deputy, and a leader. 20:12, 10/31/2016

Define the eye depth (add more darker and lighter colors) and the earpink a bit. And apologies if this counts as repeating a comment, but there appears to be absolutely no shading on the white. At all. If there is, it needs to be defined a lot. 22:57 Mon Oct 31

'''Reupload - thanks for all the suggestions guys, I hope its getting better. once again, sorry Snowed for how I acted. I hope this pic looks better now!'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 00:04, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Define light source^^ Right now, it just seems that there's a ring of extra color touching the lineart, but the shading should only be where light doesn't hit.

What do you mean? Could you explain more? :D   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 22:13, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

It looks better than the last time :). I see your light source much more clearly than before. However, a couple of more things to consider:

1. The shading doesn't seem to cover the parts where it's supposed to cover, aka its "leaking" away from the linear art as people here call it. By this i mean that there are random lighter patches I see visible in the shading. To fix this, just simply go to the layer and give the edge of the linear art a trace where the shading is drawn.

2. Try to darken the shading to make it more visible. It's kind of eye straining to see it. Also, when you do that, it might look a little hard edged, so give it a little blur.

3. Try and get the shading to look more defined. By this I mean that the shading should form visible shapes rather than be blurred all over the image. For reference, take a look at the shadows casted around you right now to see what I mean when shading is a defined shape.

4. Try using a low opacity eraser tool to erase the edge of the white underbelly slightly, as right now it seems to be leaking.

13:38, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

'''Reupload - thanks guys, especially fox girl, that was great advice. hope its better now!'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 23:17, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

I still really can't see the shading, and can only tell that there's a slight difference between it and the base. Would you perhaps darken/define it some?

Reupload Winterpaw: I  am  a  true Monster

Define and darken the shading a bit more. 00:06, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  01:52, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Could you please define/darken the shading? I really can't see it at all on my screen.

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  00:41, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Blur/smudge in the shading a tad.

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  00:39, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

Shading's leaking away from the lineart on the --> back paw, and also, maybe smooth the belly white some.

The shading needs to be defined everywhere but on the side of the cat, which means define it on the legs, tail, and head respectively. I see virtually none at all where there should be some. Also, it looks like there's darker dapples all over the image, and since he's only described as a solid color, he doesn't get any, so remove those. 22:10, 11/10/2016

Reuploaded Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  22:44, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Get rid of the pale tail-tip. 23:31, 11/10/2016

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  03:45, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading. 21:41, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  22:58, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the shading depth?

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  02:14, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

Define shading on top of the head, if you please. 18:32, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

reup Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  22:29, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. Add some on the neck

reup Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  18:59, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps add some shading under the lower jaw? It looks a little flat there and adding something it would help that I think. (Also sorry if I can't comment because I'm not yet a member) <font color= #111111 face="Calibri,sans-serif">Maplepaw <font color= #e6e8fa face="Calibri,sans-serif">(talk)  18:48, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Well, the light is hitting the whole left side of the image, so the shadows would only be on the right side the neck because of lighting...but if someone else thinks I should add it, I will! [okay, after getting advice, I added some, and reuploaded.] Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  02:31, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Extend the jaw shading a little. You don't need to do much, just enough so it stretches where the chin is meant to be.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:19, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  02:53, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Shading on the --> shoulder is leaking away from the lineart, and also define the jaw shading because I really can't see a difference from your last upload.

Reuploaded because I wanted to change something Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  21:43, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Could you perhaps erase a little of the earpink on --> ear so it doesn't reach the eye? 18:37, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  22:32, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Blur/smooth out the shading some on the head and shoulder. ~Patch   feather~   02:06, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  02:42, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Luna (KP) - For Evaluation
Джулия де Мортон (talk) 13:59, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Get rid of every other white thing except for the tail-tip. Unless specifically stated to have other white points, we follow our tortoiseshell rule here. Also don't align your images. <span style="">14:01, 11/12/2016

And this image needs to be renamed to File:Luna.kittypet.png <span style="">14:04, 11/12/2016

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 14:42, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Can you brighten the tail-tip? It looks a little too gray to me. <span style="">14:42, 11/12/2016

define the shading on the legs and tmake the brown a little less green looking. 15:59, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:09, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Do you mind smudging the brown and ginger a bit?

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:50, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the tail and legs? 02:57, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 05:41, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Define the depth in the shading and give it some shape; it looks rather flat and I'm having some trouble making it out.

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 13:54, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

could you whiten the tail tip please?

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 13:26, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Can you add some more depth to the shading? The way I'd do it is add a 'base' shading that's darker and less blurred than the rest. I can give you an example if you don't know what I mean.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:24, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Give me an example, please Джулия де Мортон (talk) 14:56, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Okay so you add a base shading, sorta like this (blur/smudge it off course) and that's how I give my images depth. Of course, this shouldn't be exact, adjust yours so it matches your shading placement.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  00:11, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 12:42, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Pebbleshine (W) ~ For Approval
Eh --Cheetahfur (talk) 02:10, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Is there a way you could possibly make the pixels look less grainy? 02:11, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

I know this is probably a difficult pattern to shade, but can you maybe define the shading a bit? 02:52, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Do you want the .psd? You are close, but the markings and colors are a tad bit difficult to tell because of layers/layer modes. I am the OA of the apprentice (first in the set) and the dapples on this are actually a little too soft. <span style="">03:02 Sun Nov 13

Add the pupil. <span style="">04:33, 11/13/2016


 * Does he have an eye color? 09:11, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Scarlet Pebble is a she, and could you make the speckles a bit more defined. —  Minkclaw   15:03, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Mink, that's exactly what Sunjaw said already, tbh. <span style="">16:07, 11/14/2016


 * My apologies, I didn't see that. —  Minkclaw   16:49, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe try to even out the earpink -- it looks blotchy because I can see the spots under it.


 * That's normal, Holly c: Maybe define/sharpen the shape a bit more? 07:10, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

I cant see any pupils

I already said that, Fox. <span style="">13:37, 11/17/2016

sorry, didn't notice your comment.

Mind matching this image to Pebbleshine's queen image?

It should match the apprentice image, not the queen, because the apprentice is the first in the set. But anyway, are you still working, Cheetah? 15:25, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work.

Could I take over possibly? <font color= #111111 face="Calibri,sans-serif">Maplepaw <font color= #e6e8fa face="Calibri,sans-serif">(talk)

Reuploaded I gave it a half decent shot I reckon <font color= #111111 face="Calibri,sans-serif">Maplepaw <font color= #e6e8fa face="Calibri,sans-serif">(talk)  20:08, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

This is pretty! Define the ear-pink a bit more. Not quite sure how to explain this but the shading on the chest and forelegs is a bit too straight and doesn't quite look natural. Maybe give it some curvature with the muscles? 05:29, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Can you lighten the back shading?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:25, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

define the shading on the tail. 00:18, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Not to be a bother but the darker flecks on the rest of the images are a lot...smaller, for lack of a better word. Do you think it's possible to fix that? <span style="">14:10, 11/27/2016

Tangleburr (DF) - CBA
~Patch   feather~   04:27, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

Smoothen out texture some, there are some parts that look like scribbles going in an odd angle?? If I make sense, I see it most on her side and back..great job though! —  Minkclaw   13:59, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''thanks. ~Patch   feather~   23:02, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

Really nice image^^ Perhaps round out the brown on the tail a bit to match the other images a bit more, and also, the earpink is leaking out of the ear line that it's supposed to be in.

'''Re-uploaded. '''thanks! ~Patch   feather~   04:23, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

the ear pink is still leaking out of the ear line.

Is it the top or the bottom of the ear? I looked and I can't find it. ~Patch   feather~   14:08, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

never mind, my bad. I mixed up the ear pink color and the brown ><

The gray looks a little dark compared to the other images. I think that's because of the shading though. Maybe double check the gray base/lighten shading?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:27, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I think it is a shading, I lightened some of the gray, hopefully it looks better now. ~Patch   feather~   22:01, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

It still looks too dark on the top part of the tail and on her side, just behind her front leg.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  00:13, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' ~Patch    feather~   02:04, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Snipkit (Kit) - CBA
Now I can understand why everyone says the kit blank is hard to work with :/ Comments? <span style="">23:07 Tue Nov 15

Can you smooth out or smudge the white splotch some more? It looks a bit too defined. <span style="">23:55, 11/15/2016

Re-uploaded <span style="">23:15 Thu Nov 17

Blur the earpink a little. Maybe lighten it a bit too. ~Patch   feather~   23:38, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

The shading looks a tad bit blotchy towards the top of the white patch

Re-ups <span style="">22:59 Fri Nov 18

Comments? <span style="">22:34 Wed Nov 23

I'm seeing sudden lighter pixels <--- side of the legs, can you fix those? Also, smudge/blur the ear pink just a little bit. Nice work! Black-furred kits are especially hard to do.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:29, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-ups <span style="">16:39 Fri Nov 25

CBA?

Chestnutkit (star) - CBA
Poor little thing. Cute name though. Comments?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  23:08, November 18, 2016 (UTC)

You mind filling up that nose hole and make the lighter areas a bit more obvious?

Reupload <font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  22:43, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Uhh, I don't mean to offend or anything, but can I have some comments, please?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:30, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Pretty sure you should wait five days, because barely four seems pushing it. Anyways, give the shading a bit more shape, it seems uneven and I'm probably being confusing.

Alrighty then, five days. Give shape? I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do I add shading depth?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  00:18, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I meant. I'm sorry, it's been a busy week.

Reupload that's okay.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  23:00, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Curlypaw (KP) ~ For Approval
i redid the base color and ear pink to match the apprentice —  Minkclaw   19:38, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Theres waste around the left ear. 19:52, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Remove the texture, as the apprentice image that was posted before yours does not have texture.

The base on this still looks a lot darker than the other image

I color picked it from the Apprentice, so I think its alright? —  Minkclaw   20:36, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps —  Minkclaw   20:42, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

The nose is empty, and there's still waste around the <--- ear, like Breeze mentioned.

Re-Upps waste removed, gray cats don't have pink noses, they have dark gray —  Minkclaw   03:08, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

the nose must match the apprentice. there's grey cats with pink noses in this series already. 23:12, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

I think the eyes must be blue 02:15, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps —  Minkclaw   17:32, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

I think the shading's leaking a bit on the back foot and haunch, and the nose pink should match that of the apprentice. 19:54, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Lighten/smudge the shading.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:37, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps, forgot to put this —  Minkclaw   03:53, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Could you add some shading to the nose, or something along those lines, so the bright color doesn't just jump out at you? You have a few pixels to work with, so it's possible to do.

Re-Upps fixed the brightness of the nose pink some as well as added shading —  Minkclaw   22:56, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Her apprentice image has a nose color of #DD8AA6, this one has a nose color of #7A4949 (that's the brightest color I see on the nose since it's shaded.). Just saying. 02:33, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Forgot to mention, there's also waste around the < ear. I can open up the image, take out my color-picking tool, and I would find red-pink colors.02:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps, I've already removed the waste there's no more.. —  Minkclaw   21:17, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

There is, but it's very light. Take out your color picking tool and sweep it outside the lineart. I can still see the waste there. 01:43 November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps —  Minkclaw   03:18, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading depth. <span style="">14:13, 11/27/2016

The waste around the ear is still there; it's further out but I can still see it.

Re-Upps, since the Apprentice was declined I changed the eye color back to amber, re-added shading, also dd shading depth but its a little darker than before. —  Minkclaw   21:22, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

There is waste around all the image. 21:24, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps —  Minkclaw   21:34, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

There is a transperant pixel--> along the very bottom of the tail. 21:39, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps —  Minkclaw   21:52, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

She looks cross-eyed.

i don't see it? I followed the eye thing from the Apprentice's tutorial plus I used some of the other KP as examples. —  Minkclaw   03:22, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

I can move one of the eye's over a little if that's what needed? —  Minkclaw   15:03, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

That's exactly what I was going to ask you to do. Mobile doesn't allow for in-depth comments.

Re-Upps, moved the right eye over just a tad. —  Minkclaw   22:24, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Fidgetpaw (MCA) - CBA
There we go, now that I have a design that I actually like..

Define shading on the --> back paw.

Because idiot me is tired, you mean the frontmost back paw???

Yes, I do. 02:40, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. An attempt was made.

Maybe smudge the white on the face into the black a bit more. :D Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  23:57, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

I don't have it smudged on the MC, so smudging it here would mean I'm altering the pattern and I'd have to tweak the other image to match it.

Okay! It just looked very...idk...like a square face or too much of a straight line, but it's fine! :D Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  03:18, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, the white on the face looks fine. CBA? 21:16, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Wrenflight (Star)-For Evaluation
Here she is. Comments? First character! :)

23:51, November 21, 2016 (UTC) This should say For Evaluation in the header. And lighten the shading up. It looks too solid. <span style="">00:59 Tue Nov 22

There is a transparent pixel in the --> ear. Also, be sure the image is before your comments or signature, and it shouldn't be a thumbnail.

Redo 02:20, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Think I may redo. 20:10, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 21:15, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the shading? 21:17, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 21:30, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Try to even out and match the texture better to the other images

Did you trace over the lineart? The lines look a bit wiggly. 05:57 November 23, 2016

Yeah I did,I wouldn't do it but when I paste the image onto gimp the back round turns black. So usually I trace it over with pencil, then hide the layer under it so it's white. 20:30, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Make sure the image mode is RBG, I think that's what the problem is. 20:32, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

This image needs to be reuploaded under File:Wrenflight.star.png, not what it's named now.

Omg, still won't work. O_O 20:46, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 22:56, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Some of the original lineart seems to have disappeared.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:40, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, like I said Stealth. I have to trace over it because the background becomes black. talk about Annoying. Then I have to retrace then, color. 03:09, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 03:40, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Try to blur/smudge the shading on the ear. 03:47, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Rendone 04:22, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

The lineart is blurred between the ---> leg and the chest. 17:36, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 17:50, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

The earpink needs to match the color from her other images. 18:12 November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 18:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

You need to reupload over Wrenflight.star.png, instead of uploading multiple files.

Alright, one question though. Should I upload the next tweak under Wrenflight.star or should still use this one? 19:30, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

You need to use the file I told you; we have naming guidelines that must be followed.

Mk. 19:34, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

There we go. :) 19:37, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe darken and smooth out the shading? - <font style="background:yellow">Jose1106   Hello World!  22:54, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 23:58, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Gonna redo because I found a new style. 06:18, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 07:03, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

the shading looks hard edged, blur it please —  Minkclaw   15:04, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 17:04, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred/smudged. - <font style="background:yellow">Jose1106   Ready for ANYTHING!  00:57, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 01:35, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Carpkit (Ki) ~ For Approval
I'm going to try not to withdraw this again. Comments? 02:29, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Oh my gosh I just want to pinch him! <3 The ear pink looks black, can you lighten it?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:42, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Not really; any lighter, it will be hard to see. 17:02, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

I'm finding it hard to see as it is, though. It looks like it's part of the pattern itself, not ear pink.

I tried several different colors, and this is honestly the best I can get. Anything else is even harder to see. 17:12, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Then perhaps alter the base a bit? I can't tell that's ear pink at all, and I can almost guarantee that it'll get nominated in the future, so I really don't see why you can't try and tweak the colors to make it more visible.

Reuploaded. I'll fix the earpink later. 17:18, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. This is about as good it's going to get. For some reason, I absolutely cannot make the earpink even kind of visible on both ears. It would always be easy to see on one ear but not the other or hard to see on both. 18:11, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Adorable! Maybe the white parts need to be lightened a bit more. The mottles need to be a tiny little bit more smooth. CookiesAreEpic123 (talk) 05:36, November 25, 2016 (UTC)CookiesAreEpic123

Reuploaded. 01:50, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Strikestone (Ro) - CBA
hey look who finally stopped being unreliable and unmotivated  <span style="">20:03 Tue Nov 22 

Try smudging the stripes a tiny bit. 22:43, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

I think the stripes on this are fine, as the other images are just like this and if they're smoothed too much it wouldn't match as well.

Wow those markings! Can you define the shading on the front legs?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:43, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

reups  <span style="">16:01 Thu Nov 24 

could you define the ear and nose pink please? —  Minkclaw   21:20, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

I can see those just fine? <span style="">14:15, 11/27/2016

CBA?

Nettlespot (Star) - For Approval
05:27, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

could you blur or smudge the spots a tad; this is great ^^ —  Minkclaw   17:35, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

She doesn't have to do that, Mink, as it's not like that on her other images.

I think there are meant to be sort of bands on the tail, like on the queen (since I think it's the same angle?). Can you add some?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:45, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 03:26, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

could you lighten the shading possibly? —  Minkclaw   21:21, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 01:00, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Cora (Q) - CBA
13:32, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Yay Cora! (sorry, I love her) Can you add some shading to her back? Also, this is just me nitpicking but on the --> ear, the earpink falls away from the lineart a little, along the <-- top of the earpink.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:48, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

ive used this source on queens before, ill fix the earpink when i get home. 08:45, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded 20:13, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

sorry to intrude once more, this is really great, but considering she doesn't have the rank would she get this? Correct me if wrong my brain isn't fully awake —  Minkclaw   21:24, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Mink, please do not comment on images just to say that; it's a waste of an edit and counterproductive. Anyways, are the ears supposed to have any shading? I can't see any and I'm not sure if it's just my eyes or not.

I wasn't just saying anything, anyway, I was asking if she'd get this image seeing as how she does't get the rank? That has been asked on several other images. —  Minkclaw   21:31, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

it's a blank for any pregnant cat....you don't need the rank. 21:31, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

also no i didn't feel like adding any shading to the ears this time. 00:13, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Suzy (Ro) - CBA
I can't do tortoiseshells, but I figured I'd give one a try. 14:03, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

define nose pink, this is pretty good —  Minkclaw   17:37, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 19:50, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Can you darken the black a little? It just looks a little light for a black cat to me (and a little green??)<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:50, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I messed with the colors a bit. Her base is gray, actually, and since she isn't specifically said to be black-and-orange, I think I can go a bit lighter on the colors if I want, right? It shouldn't be greenish anymore, at least. 15:00, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

The colors are your choice entirely, save for adding white (which I am still extremely annoyed about, but anyways), due to her colors not being specified.

Hmm. Since no one else has comment after me... CBA?

Hawkwing (W) ~ For Approval
colors + texture and stuff matches deputy

could you smooth/blur the shading please —  Minkclaw   21:26, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Tried; don't think I can smooth it any more than this.

Quailkit (Star) ~ For Approval
RECLAIM! Anyways, just touched up little Quailie, and added a bit of criticism from the other Quailkit for approval. --

The white still needs to be dulled quite a bit. It's way too bright. Could you also smudge/smooth it out? <span style="">14:16, 11/27/2016

The colors on this need to match the other image. 15:49, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Like Waterclaw said, colors need to match, especially ear pink, eyes and pelt color. Sorry if this is repeating. Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I am  a  true Monster  22:40, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Milkfur (MV) (Q) ~ For Approval
First queen and white cat. Comments? I tried to match the other image's shading. -

could you smooth the texture/shading, can't tell which it is, but it looks blotchy? —  Minkclaw   21:23, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I was trying to match the other image. - <font style="background:yellow">Jose1106   Hello World!  22:50, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Nice job :) Perhaps even out the texture some, mainly on the body and tail.

Re-Ups Thanks! - <font style="background:yellow">Jose1106   Ready for ANYTHING!  01:10, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Appledawn (Star) ~ For Approval
20:30, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

this is really good, could you define the nose pink? —  Minkclaw   20:54, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

I love how you make the eyes stand out! 17:06, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Remember Cloudheart, you're only supposed to comment for critique comments only. Anyway, could you possibly make the tail stripes thinner. They're not as thick on the other image. - <font style="background:yellow">Jose1106  Ready for ANYTHING!  20:33, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Re-ups Thanks:) 20:49, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Downkit (Star) ~ For Approval
20:36, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be long-haired? It says she has fluffy fur. - <font style="background:yellow">Jose1106   Ready for ANYTHING!  01:12, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

No, it wouldn't be. There was a discussion on their images on the old declined section, and it is supposed to be short.

Fluffy does not mean long. And anyways, down feathers are short feathers on a premature owlet or other bird.

Leafpaw (VS) (App) - For Approval
Came out better than I expected 21:23, November 27, 2016 (UTC) this needs to match, File:Leafpaw (VS).kit.png, the black needs to be smudged quite a bit and possibly darken texture? —  Minkclaw   21:26, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Please define the shading. ^^ 21:28, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

There is waste all around the left (our left) ear and on that side of the head.

Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster 21:34, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:35, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

I don't see the difference? The black is still blotchy and the shading I can't see at all. —  Minkclaw   21:38, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded

The ear pink < on that ear is barely noticeable with the overwhelming black. Also, the shading seems to be PURE black.....

Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  21:54, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:25, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

On the other image, there seems to be more defined lighter parts. Could you try to match the colors a bit more?

There is nothing wrong with using black shading, and it is perfectly acceptable. <span style="">23:39, 11/27/2016

the texture is underneath the patches on the kit, not on top. also needs black on (her left) side of the muzzle, the lighter grey is much more dfeined and the black is darker than on this, as well as the cream being paler and much less of it. 07:46, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:17, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded There was too much black >.<  19:20, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

break up some of the black, define the cream a bit, and the nose should be a dark grey. looking good. 22:27, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded  02:21, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

The earpink and nose color still need to match. Also, maybe add more gray, and there is a small patch of that cream color on the left (our left) ear. This is getting so good Cinderrrr! Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I am  a  true Monster  02:25, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Argh I accidentally hid the earpink, I'll fix that later. (Also, Winter, you might want to put your signature in User:Winter432/Sig, it takes up a ton of room this way. In your signature box, put User:Winter432/Sig .  Sorry for the off-topic >.<)  02:32, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:35, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Cinder. Also, maybe still add MORE gray, since the other image has lots. 04:38, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Cypresspaw (A) - For Approval
So my tablet is acting up...lol. I like this though. Comments? <span style="">13:38 Mon Nov 28

define shading, great job —  Minkclaw   15:07, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

I think the shading's fine, no? Maybe smooth it out? - <font style="background:yellow">Jose1106   Ready for ANYTHING!  20:27, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

I can barely see most of it. It needs defining in my opinion..=/ —  Minkclaw   22:19, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

looks plenty visible to me. 22:25, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Jose1116, maybe smooth out the shading a little bit. Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I am  a  true Monster  02:26, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

I can see it on the screens for my iPhone 7, desktop, and laptop. It's fine.