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Rogue Blanks - For Approval
So I'm starting with him first. Comments for improvement? 00:08, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I think the heel on the back legs should jut out a little more. Also, add the dew claws (optional), and the toes should also jut out a little more, a little like this. 00:30, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

The back leg closest to us looks broken, move it in more. 00:38, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe make a line to mark the inner ear, slope the forehead down to the muzzle a bit more, and maybe make the neck a bit longer? This is cool! :) 01:09, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Could you post all the blanks? And round out the front of the muzzle a bit, it's really boxy. 01:41, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I stand by my comment that they'd look better with claws sticking out, since they are rogues after all. It is optional, but in my eyes, it'd be better 02:13, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but unless they had dog claws/teeth on them (still not sure how the BC cats got them to stay on), they wouldn't be very visable... Look at them. They're small, thin, and curve in when they're out and the cat isn't sticking them into something (which causes the claws to draw out more). 02:21, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lower the back part of the neck every so slightly, and if it's a rogue, maybe make its back arched like this guy. 07:38, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Also, shouldn't he be white, like the other blanks? 18:09, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

It just means the blank is transparent. It's fine, Bluestar. 20:08, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Though the other blanks are filled in with white, Cloudy. We'd have to make them transparent also if we leave this one as it is. 20:46, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

This is nice but the tail should probally go up about 15 degrees or so. Also shouldn't you post all four like the Prey Hunter and the Loner and the Apprentice blanks? Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  00:14, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

She doesn't have to for one. I found it way easier to work with one until there wasn't very many major lineart changes. It takes awhile to do longhairs and to have to redo them every time there is a major tweak is hard x.x make the neck a tad longer. 00:27 Tue Mar 13

@LeafstrikeAsakura, Right now, I guess it can stay transparent. Oblivion can add it later, and if the blanks are approved with transparency instead of white, it isn't much of a big difference, for users could still fill in color in the blanks. I guess it could be added later, when the images are approved. 04:39, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so since I'm away without my laptop, I have no way of uploading this, but I do have a few things to say. First of all, Leafstrike, it does have few claws, but cats don't have them on their back feet. Everyone else, I won't upload all four; Mounty said all I needed to say. And it's transparent. Big deal. I completely didn't realize it upon uploading, and the next time I change it the body will be white. Oh, and bear with me for the little changes; there are only so many pixels available to me and it's hard to make little changes on such a small image. 21:22, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Uhhh... Loon? Cats do have claws on their back feet... in fact, the claws on the back feet are longer and don't retract. 21:28, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Also, you have hundreds of thousands of pixels at your disposal. I advise you make the changes suggested if you want to get these things done any time soon. 21:32, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Lol Shelly, that picture xD Anyway, sorry for the typo. I meant to say dew claw. Cats don't have them on their back feet. And about the pixels: what you say is true, but for a certain area it's hard to do. The paws, for instance. I can only make them so big or so small in a certain direction before it looks stupid. But you're right, I need to do it, obviously. No computer until Tuesday though. 21:37, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't say to add dew claws on the hind legs. 04:17, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Well, I thought that's what you meant since he does have one on his front. 13:53, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Just throwing this out there, Loonie's gonna be gone till tuesday, but I think we should make an exception and not decline these. Also, can we make the time limit before a charart is declined 2 weeks for blanks? Especially since we voted on them and all. 01:16, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think there should be a limit on blanks. Not because I'm going to poof on you guys and go AWOL for a month, but because no one else will be able to replicate the blank. 01:34, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Loonie, it's fine. Take as along as you need. We're not in any rush to get these done, last I checked. And if we are, those users need to calm their horses and wait. We realize you have a life. XD 01:36, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Can you define the elbow on the left foreleg, and move it up a bit higher on the leg to be aligned with the abdomen/chest, because that's how it is on a cat. 23:15, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Could you straighten the back leg closest to us because it looks a bit crooked and broken. 16:44, March 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's how a cat's back leg looks, Cinder. 16:49, March 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh. My Bad. Sorry Oblivion. 17:04, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure if this has been said before but the ear on <--- that side make it a pixl or two thicker because it looks quite thin and it doesn't match the rest of the lineart. Also make the little line on the down <--- left paw thicker. Do you know what I'm talking about? Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  00:04, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, with Shelly's help, I've identified what I should and should not do. 19:05, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Move the eye forward and round out the front of the muzzle to resemble the warrior blank. 19:08, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How's this? 19:21, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

The front paw farthest from us looks slightly squished; can you make the place where the paw meets the ankle-thing a little more corner-y? *can't explain* ♫Purplemoon♪   Happy St. Patricks Day! Good luck!  21:06, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

The tail looks broken, possibly smooth the curve out on the tail? Also, shorten the tail a bit. 21:25, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Purplemoon, I think I know what you mean. The paw furthest away doesn't look the same as the other paws since they're a bit rounder, so round out the top of the front paw furthest from us ^^ 00:52, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

The muzzle doesn't look quite right. Try smoothing out the area between the brow ridge and the bridge of the nose. 00:57 Thu Mar 22

Re-uploaded. Dat muzzle. 01:51, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

This is just my opinion, but it doesn't quite give off the more wild sense of a rogue verses a loner. Maybe stretch the neck out, flatten the ears, and bear their teeth. Maybe also bring one of the forepaws into a striking position. If you disagree, feel free to ignore this. 02:24, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Scarlet. That's why I voted no change in the second round, that was one of my reasons, that none really looked like a rogue in terms of their stature (no offense meant at all). You are free to disagree but I think you should at least try it to see how it looks. 17:19, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

You both make good points, but there's one thing I want to discuss: he doesn't "look like a rogue". I get that you think rogues are aggressive, and would look more so with flattened ears, bared teeth, etc., but by that logic, the warrior should be doing something warrior-like. The warriors just look like a cat sitting down. Same with the leaders, deputies, sharpclaws, cave-guards, kittypets, and any others I may have forgotten. If you haven't been exposed to our images, none of them may look like the rank you think they're supposed to look like. Let's say you've come to the site for the first time, and you take a look at Thistleclaw's image. Not going off the image, just the blank itself, how does that look like a warrior to you unless you know he's a warrior? I don't think my image has to "look" like a rogue, since none of the other images do.

In addition, rogues aren't always going around terrorizing other cats, are they? Let's take Sasha for an example. While she didn't exactly leave the Clans alone, she never killed/kidnapped any of them, never took their prey, and never got into a fight. The image should be unbiased in that it doesn't look like the cats are "doing" anything.

Now, that's just my opinion. Feel free to disagree/shoot me down. 19:09, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

I think baring the teeth or looking like it's trying to start a fight would be over doing it a lot. All it really needs is to look like it's ready to defend itself (like my proposed blanks did). A slight arch up in the spine, a bend at the legs. Nothing too dramatic. 19:35, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I'm much to lazy to see if this was mentioned or not already, but make the legs farthest from us a bit shorter than the ones closer to us, so it doesn't look like it's one a tightrope. 20:35, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

I think the pose is fine its like the old one, just lower the tail a little or straighten it out. 01:36, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 22:22, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Lovely! Make the hock a bit shorter, and make the whole back legs curve a but smoother. Also, make the neck longer, and chest less square-ish. 22:26, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ._. 00:47, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

The front left leg looks a bit chubby to me.. Can you think it out a bit? 14:51, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 15:26, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

I think it looks a bit too tall. Shorten the legs, especially the hock, a lengthen the body a little. Also, the shoulder is attached oddly. Round it out a bit. Breeze whisker  16:56, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 01:04, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Give the tail a little bit of an edge, not much but just enough so it doesn't look so round. &#123;&#123;SUBST:Nosubst&#124;Username:AerisFF7/Sig}} 15:58, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Cats do have rounded tails. ♫Purplemoon♪  May the odds be ever in your favor  19:40, March 26, 2012 (UTC)

Preference, but could you add a line where the ear-pink goes, such as in the leader and prey-hunter blanks? To me, it looks better, but you don't have to. 22:01, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Aw, he's cute :) you could make a bit more of a curve just behind the shoulder. 23:03, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 01:35, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, Loonie, do you mind posting the long-haired blanks here? I'm no expert, but this blanks looks like it's ready for CBA, or something. >.< *doesn't know too much about approval of blanks* 01:47, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Like I said on chat, I think they could useca bit more neck.^^ Skt Raxacoricofallapatorian 01:51, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

This is optional, but maybe flatten the ears a little? It gives them the more "hostile" look, and rogues are pretty hostile. I think this is fablulous. 02:21, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. So with the help of Leggy and Paleh (who couldn't seem to make up their minds...), I've fixed him a little. Also, Ivy, see my novel up there^ for why I'm not flattening the ears. 02:34, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

I've gotten a recent critique on a cat picture of mine. They said that cat bellies dip a little, so you might need to make it droop some. 00:42, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but his back is arched, therefore his belly would arch with it. 01:59, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Minnowtail (Alt. A2) ~ On Hold
I think I made her too dark >m< I shall fix that.... Anywho, she was described with a dappled pelt~ Comments? 23:14, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Define the earpink, especially on the back ear. I love it! 8DDD 23:17, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded, changes arent showing :c 00:08, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Define the nosepink. Looks pretty! 8D 08:13, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading on the face just a tad. Nice job, Fallow. 11:15, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Beautiful, Fallow! C: Define the earpink. 14:47, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ Thanks everyone ^^ 16:58, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the belly a tiny bit? :3 04:14, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the face, too. ♫Purplemoon♪  Happy St. Patricks Day! Good luck!  11:23, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ 16:27, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the haunch and tail shading just a tad? :3 14:46, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

This is great and all, but who says that was a mistake? It was never stated otherwise, she could very well be a dappled dark gray cat.... 23:21, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking, I think that since she was only mentioned once it would be an alt but I think that this should be the main apprentice image and the warrior should be changed. 23:27 Sun Mar 25

Paleclaw's right. We're already having a discussion about partial-description alts, and this would be partial. She already is gray, in this image, just mentioned with dapples. All cats have some kind of pelt pattern, for what I know, but it just may not be visible. Plus, dapples don't make much of a difference, sorry. 23:34, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Then how come cats like Lilystem get an alt. for being described as a tabby? I think this should stay. 01:53, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps Lilystem should be tweaked to a tabby then. Either way, I thought we decided something about what gets alts and what gets added? Didn't we decide that if it's completely plausible then it'd be added? I can't quite remember, but I thought that's what we worked out. Meaning this alt should be declined and all her images tweaked. 00:02, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Isn 't this sirt of assuming her description? We don't know for sure that she's actually a dappled cat, and it could very well be a mistake. But in any case, if this goes ahead, cats like Mudclaw would have to be tweaked too, and it seemd really unecessary. *Bad at making points* Skt Raxacoricofallapatorian  00:07, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Skt's right. This is assuming descriptions, something we don't do here. If we don't assume with genders and eyelashes in the manga, then why are we assuming descriptions? I say we keep it, and if we find out later that she dappled, then we can delete this and tweak the others. It's not partial, honestly. We know she's gray. For all we know, the dappled coat could be an error. 06:28, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

I've decided to place this image on hold until a final decision can be made. This is not to be declined, approved or archived until said decision is reached. 07:05, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Kestrelflight (MC Alt) - For Approval
Hah it seems like forever since I've put anything up for approval! I kept meaning to do this but kept forgetting. He is constantly called mottled gray in the allegiances, and I don't think it's a partial description because he is gray-brown with white splotches, so I think it warrants an alt. However, if you guys disagree, I'll respect your decision. Also, I tried a new mottled method, how does it look? :D 18:22, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit ^^ 02:15, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:02, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

There is a litle gray smudged into the earpink 15:58, March 30, 2012 (UTC)Moonshine

I think it's supposed to be like that... 20:23, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Oakstep (Lo) - For Approval
Hmmmm..... I'm never doing stripes with the pencil again. XD This is the best I could do to match it. Comments? 00:47, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Kestrelflight (Alt. MCA) - For Approval
It's been forever since I had something up for approval. Trying a new style of mottled cats but I think he looks a bit like a tabby... He was described as a mottled gray tom in Hollyleaf's Story under the name of Kestrelpaw and Barkface was the medicine cat, so he was a mca. Comments? 01:57, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah he does look like a tabby. Isn't this supposed to match my mottled gray version anyway? 01:59, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I honestly have no idea how you did that, it's incredible. But I tried. 02:11, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

I can always send you the .xcf, if you like C: Also, I used the pen jitter tool with a darker and lighter shade, then slightly blurred it. 02:12, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

I'd love that. I PM you my email on facebook. Thanks Ivy! 02:19, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Shrewtooth (Ki) ~ For Approval
Cloudy has a weakness for black cats. Now, the changes from Dazzle's image may not be showing. 17:15, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Heathertail (Alt.A)~For Approval
I don't think I uploaded it right, but I tried. Comments? 18:24, March 30, 2012

(UTC)Moonshine

Reuploaded-- got rid of the waste 18:47, March 30, 2012 (UTC)Moonshine

I don't know what happened to the last one. It's not in the declined nor in the approved, I thought this was being worked on already. 19:33 Fri Mar 30

No, it's fine. Mounty, you derp. =P

Define and darken the shading. 20:23, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Rename it Heathertail.apprentice.alt.png. 20:32, March 30, 2012 (UTC)