Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

IRC Channel
We now have a channel for PCA: #wikia-warriorcats-pca. Anyone there? If so, get on the IRC. G B 57 20:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

What's an IRC channel? Dawnfeather 06:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

It's like a chatroom. If you look on the left hand side of your page there will be a link that says 'Warriors Wiki IRC' If you click that and then add '-pca' to the end of the channel, type in a nickname and connect then you can talk to other members freely on the channel without the hassle of talk pages. (I think that's it) Sandy Talk! 10:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

In fact, Sandy, that's exactly it. Good job. Maybe you could get on? G B 57 23:17, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Whenever I get on there never seems to be anyone else! I'll try :) Sandy Talk! 16:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing- for approval
Well I said that I needed to start on something easier to start on, so I did Whitewing. Please critic [but not harshly!:)] Sandwich 989

I sorted the layout so this came under it's own section but the image is not showing up Sandy Talk! 20:00, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright Sandwich, no more .xcf for you! XD It makes the image into a white box. Use .png or.gif instead. -- Ms T C 20:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I know I know. XD When I was typing in png my dad told me to get off because I was in trouble, and I thought that it didn't save, but it did I guess. So what do you think? I started this because Lionheart was to hard for me. Sandwich 989

I need some help with pixel size on GIMP. Sandwich 989


 * Remember to click on the blank before using it, an I suggest just copying/pasting it, as I do it. Then use the darken tool to shade. I think you have a good second attempt, thouggh. You're just starting out. Plus, this can't be accepted until you get the correct blank size. -- Mallinois Herding Talk 12:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok ill try to find the correct size. Sandwich 989

Here's a blank for you, Sandwich. Color this one in, and you'll get the full size blank. -- Mallinois Herding Talk 01:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I hadn't edited this for a while (I have ALOT of Finals due soon!). But i managed to do this in my spare time. Sandwich 989  02:40, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I say there should be more shading. Many pictures now are bugging me with putting little shading on the backs. No one does it anymore....Look at some of the other accepted white cats for reference.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 03:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blended more, and you could probably use a little bit more of it too. The ears look too fluro, and there is something wrong with the eyes. -- Dawnfeather 05:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Shading! More is needed on the back (as Shimmer said), head, muzzle, front legs, tail (a little). Also, tone down the ear colour a little and try adding a blacka nd white pixel in the eyes to amke them look...alive. [Someone posted a good example of a close up of an eye on the 'Sandstorm-For Approval' section] Just because she is white doesn't mean the colour has to be flat - take a look at the approved white cats for examples. The shading will help Sandy Talk! 07:22, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Hazeltail (For Approval)


I noticed that Hazeltail didn't have any character art, and I love her to death, so I decided to color her! I did my best to try to make her gray markings look realistic. I used a tutorial and a few references to get her to look just right. I'm no expert, though, and any help you can give is greatly appreciated! Also, if something looks wrong, please tell me how to fix it. "It looks bad" doesn't tell me anything. --Goldencloud 00:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * EDIT1 After multiple attempts, I finally got the new version to upload. I separated the gray patches, and gave her white-tipped ears and tail. Also darkened shadows. --Goldencloud 00:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT2 I rounded out the splotches. --Goldencloud 02:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT3 I randomized the splotches just a little bit. I hope I didn't go overboard again. --Goldencloud 23:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT4 Added a bit of shading on the chest, hopefully it looks better now. Thanks everyone for the help! I appreciate it. --Goldencloud 02:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT5 Extended shading up her chest. Also blended shadow of the ear a bit. I hope that's what you meant, Bramble! --Goldencloud 21:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the problem is that she needs separate patches like Brightheart's not one huge wavy patch. Try putting white in between them. -- Ms T C 01:13, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I did, and I do think it looks better now. --Goldencloud 00:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. The ear needs some gray or white on it, and there needs to be more shading aroung the outside. Maybe a highlight too? -- Dawnfeather 06:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I put white tips on her ears. I tried giving her highlights, but it was hard to see on top of her white fur. I didn't add shading around the outside because the light-source is coming from overhead, not from the "camera". --Goldencloud 00:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I think this looks awesome! Sandwich 989
 * Thank you! :D --Goldencloud 00:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

This is very pretty, Goldencloud. I think it might look better though with a patch of gray on the belly, to break up the white a little more in that section. And maybe shrink the ear pink so it doesn't take up the whole ear. Other than that this is beautiful. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Bramble! I had added a gray patch on her belly, but it looked odd there so I tried to expand the splotch on her back so there's less white space there. I also shrunk the ear pink a little bit. --Goldencloud 02:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the patches look unnatural, try making them more rounded, not all wavy and curvy and random. -- Mallinois Herding Talk 22:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I rounded them off. --Goldencloud 02:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I like it, but, like everyone else said, the patches look wavy..--Warrior♥ 00:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I did round them off a bit, especially the one on her back. It does look a lot better now. --Goldencloud 02:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to be fussy, but now they look very round, and even. Make then shapes a bit more random. -- Dawnfeather 02:51, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. --Goldencloud 23:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks awesome, but it could use shading on the chest.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 15:04, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see what you were referring to now. I added a touch of shading on the chest. Thanks!--Goldencloud 04:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Warrior's right - shading is also needed on the back Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 15:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There shouldn't be shading on the back. The light is coming from over her head, not from the camera. --Goldencloud 04:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't look right having both the veritcal part of her chest and the vertical part of her neck without shading. Chose one to put shading on, but only for that small section. -- Dawnfeather 07:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm...okeetay. I think I understand what you're talking about. I added a bit of shading on her chest, is that what you were referring to? --Goldencloud 02:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

This is very lovely. If you could blend the ear pink a little more and add a touch more shading to the chest, above where there is already shading, this should be ready for approval. -- Bramble My Realm 17:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, Bramble. Your kind words mean a lot to me! I did extend the chest shading, and blended the shadow of the ear more. Is that what you were referring to when you said I should blend the ear pink? --Goldencloud 21:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Good job. Are there any other comments for improvement? -- Bramble My Realm 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Bumblekit for Approval

 * I've been wanting to do this lil guy for so long and now I've finally got the chance. There's only a few things I have to say. One, I'm going to make him have a transparent background later on. The second thing I would like to add is, give me feedback on his stripes. I know they are horizontal running across his back, but I can't just picture a cat with straight horizontal lines, so I gave them a little wave at the end. I thought he would have been perfect for a long haired base since Graystripe is after all, but I couldn't get the background to turn white without erasing the outline.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 05:03, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

The stripes and shading on his right (our left) side are too long. You don't need more shading, but the outside edges should be a little bit darker. You might want to try adding a highlight too. -- Dawnfeather 05:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

He needs more shading around the head and the front legs. Also, some of the stripes, particularly on our right, are a little smudged where they've been flicked. I think you were right not to do them straight because a cat is not flat (!) but they shouldn't be smudged Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 07:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Updated Here he is now. I added some highlight, added the extra shading that was needed, and made the lines darker on his right.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 15:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

It's better but I don't like the highlights...it looks like he's bene playing in white paint. Perhaps get rid of them, or make them smaller and blend them in more Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 15:55, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I think there needs to be a highlight, but it needs to be smaller and blended! -- Dawnfeather 10:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * So far, adding highlights has ruined this kit and Eaglekit, so Shim, remove the highlights and I think it will look better. Kits can't handle much highlighting... -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 20:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree; I never put highlighting on kits, just some well-blended shading. :) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 20:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Bluefur(star)-For approval



 * My favorite leader, a noble cat, but there's no leader blanks... So I did Bluefur as a warrior, and I hope this is up to my standards. -- Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Silver">Herding Talk 13:56, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I love the colour you've chosen and I can't see much wrong except that the ear pink seems to be spilling over the whole ear and needs to be more traiangle shaped. Also the highlights could be blended more, especially on the back and muzzle. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 16:09, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks like to me there's to much ear pink, and it looks like its spilled out of the ear a bit.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 16:21, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I updated, and the highlight on the muzzle is the silver tinge of lining. -- Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Silver">Herding Talk 16:31, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks great! :)--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 17:10, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I actually think that the fur could be a bit bluer. -- Dawnfeather 22:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't do color changes, and I tries to make it bluer after I got this colour, but then it looked unnatural. -- Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Silver">Herding Talk 00:07, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay then. At the base of the tail where the shading is, there seems to be a line of stronger colour, away from the body a bit. Is there a reason, or is it just a 'image typo' as I'm begginning to think of them. Also, the highlights look a little weird, like the are just smudges of a lighter colour. Make them a bit darker or something. I'm not sure.

Other than that I think that these are (also) ready for approval. -- Dawnfeather 07:14, 24 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the highlights look like that, and I use the lighten tool for highlights. Plus, that line on the tail is tail shading. (By the way Dawnfeather, your elder blanks should be accepted :) -- Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Silver">Herding Talk 11:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I mean that there is a spot of darkness, but closer to the body it gets lighter. Shouldn't it be the same? -- Dawnfeather 12:40, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather, I think she meant to do that for the shading of the tail.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 15:06, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

It also needs some shading between the front and back leg. -- Dawnfeather 22:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather's right - the belly and space between the front and back legs needs shading. Other than that, this is looking good. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 11:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Finally! The changes show! I liked the old version better, though. -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 13:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The old highlights looked better to me, but it looks great!:)--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 16:31, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I like this version. Everything looks very nicely blended and it's quite pretty, but you need to turn the background transparent before it's approved. -- Bramble My Realm 17:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Can you do that for me? I don't know how. -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 20:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Mintkit-For approval and Sagekit-Approved


Okay, as you may have guessed, I have a whole stack of characters saved on my computer from when the project was running slowly and nothing was being approved. I'm slowly working through getting them approved so I can work on some new ones! Here are Mintkit and Sagekit from SkyClan. I've used the descriptions as mentioned in the allegiances so Mintkit is the tabby she-cat and Sagekit is the pale grey tom. Comments? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 11:17, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Bramble once posted more than one (Bouncepaw, Rockpaw, and Tinypaw), and now it isn't preferred, but I think these look great. Just one thing:Which gender is preferred, because their genders get mixed up a lot -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 13:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I just followed the allegiances in which mintkit is a she-kit and sagekit is a tom. (And sorry, I forgot about that...) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No, wait. In the allegiances it says:Mintkit-pale gray tom, Sagekit-grey tabby she-cat. You used the right genders. (And I see which one is Dovekit...)-- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 13:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Allegiances Firestar's Quest ... Mintkit is the tabby she-kit on the left and Sagekit is the pale grey (longhaired) on the right (and yes, the longhaired was Dovekit but works equally well for Sagekit!) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay peoples, I thought this was about the image! :) Anyway, the shading on Sagekit's chest is really big, and should be smaller. Mintkit's eyes are really pale, and would look better darker. Also, the tabby markings are ultrathin, and you missed a little patch on her left, at the bottom. (our right). Other than that, these are wonderful. I see what you mean about making a large stokpil;e of images. I've been doing that since I first got on herein March. I posted A bad Hollyleaf which I took off within the week, and left Mousefur and the Elderblanks. I thought I would be best to not put anymore at that time. The the new rule came in and I haven't been able to put on anything else since! :D -- Dawnfeather  06:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I made Sagekit's shading smaller and made the relevant changes to Mintkit. Better? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 08:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The ears could be a little bit brighter, but only a teeny amount. Other than that, I'm afraid you're going to have to take out the next image in your pile! How many have you got there ayway? I've only got about 5. -- Dawnfeather 10:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, better? [I hope the updates are showing up now...they're being slow...] (I have only a couple of cats left after these two - Adderkit and an unamed ginger apprentice...it was going to be Copperpaw but I haven't thought of another cat I could modify it for yet. I did have a lot more but they've been approved now (Voletooth, Whitethroat, Pouncetail, Hollykit, Applekit, Shrewpaw, Berrynose, Ivykit... I guess I can start colouring some more now :D It's about time! lol) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 12:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Sagekit is rather nice and he has nicely smoothed shading, and Mintkit just needs more blending on the tabby markings and a little more body shading. Good job, Sandstar. -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 20:09, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Wait a moment. Before we add Sagekit's picture to his article, we need to make the background transparent. Mintkit needs it, too. Could you reupload them with transparent backgrounds, Sandy? That'd be awesome. -- Bramble My Realm 21:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've done Sagekit and I'm going back to make the changes to Mintkit. [It takes ages to make the background transparent! I ahd to do it pixel by pixel... ] Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh Sandy! Don't trouble yourself that much, I can do it for you. It takes two clicks of a mouse to make it transparent for me. I can do it for your other pictures as well. -- Bramble My Realm 18:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

How???? I've got to work on her anyway...[ I've actually done the transparent bit now, but thanks!] I might have to redo the tabby markings to put the shading in... hmm...now I know why I always avoided tabbies like the plague! lol How do you make it transparent so quickly?? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I use Adobe Photoshop to make my pictures, and under the eraser tool there's a little default arrow. I click on that and go to the 'magic eraser' option, which looks like a reg. eraser with a firework above it. Then I just click on the background and it all turns transparent.

Oh, and if you have white on the cat, I use the magic wand tool to select the background and then use magic eraser, or else the cat'll turn transparent where there's white. Ghost!! ;) -- Bramble My Realm 18:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I see! I don't have photoshop but I'll have to see if I can find that magic tool elsewhere :) I redid the backgrounds and blended Mintkit's tabby markings a little as well as blurring the shading further into the body a little. Better? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful. :) -- Bramble My Realm 19:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I found a way to do it now...grrr... I really regret taking so much time on it now! lol Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 19:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Are there any more comments on Mintkit? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 17:02, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfrost-For approval.
Well...Here is the first character art that I've made. What say you? Smokeberry 21:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It's really good for a first image! I just think there are 3 things you could improve on: 1.) Make the eye have a pupil. It looks kinda like it doesn't. 2.) Make the tabby making thinner, blend them a little more, and make them jagged Ys. Use Squirrelflight as an example. 3.) Make the shading a tad bit darker. Other than that, It looks awesome!

Thanks! I'll fix that right away. Smokeberry 21:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

The image has been changed...Is it better now? Smokeberry 21:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Smokeberry, you didn't read the notice:One image at a time, so you'll have to wait for Jayfeather and Cinderfur, who by the way don't have their blanks yet. On this one, the tabby markings are dots and lines. Try using the jagged lines like Lionblaze, Squirrelflight, Dustpelt, and Brownpaw, or use the wavy ones like Heathertail -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 00:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Mallinois is right Smokeberry. Also, the ear is way too pink - that would need to be sorted as well. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 08:33, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * A couple of things: There is no shading that I can see. It needs some. Look on the Approved images to see how to do that; The tabby markings need to look...realistic. Looks at some Approved tabbies for examples; Nothing's blended. Use smudge tool for that. --<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 01:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

To add to that, Hawkfrost also has a white underbelly. -- Bramble My Realm 17:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I have fixed it. In my opinion the color is too dark, but then he is evil. Anything else? Smokeberry 23:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I like it dark, because it fit's his personality. I think he still needs more shading though. -- Dawnfeather 11:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Just add more shading on the back and the chest, and perhaps on the curve of the leg. I really like this. -- Bramble My Realm 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I really like the tabby markings now and think it looks good. I have something to add though - on my computer it is showing up on a white background not transparent and there is a strange black line at the top; is this just me or does it need to be made transparent? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 16:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Jaypaw and Cinderfur-Declined
I think that no one has made these character arts yet...I'm not sure, to tell you the truth. Smokeberry 21:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Project Character Art! One thing: 1.)THere is no medicine cat apprentice blank, so you will have to delete Jaypaw. Sorry....--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 23:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Actuaully, he's a medicine cat now since Leafpool leaft and GB said only one image at a time. Plus, Cinderfur was a deputy, and there's no deputy blank. Plus, the tabby stripe are tto wierd and unnatural. -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 00:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Woah woah woah whoa whoa whoa whoa...Leafpool left?<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Sandwich <font color="Purple" style="background:black">989 03:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, apprantly. Can we please not go into much detail though because there is already a forum on it in chatterbox, and I am trying not to find any more spoilers. The only thing I will say is that most people think she is coming back. I agree with most of the above; Jaypaw is a Medicine cat apprentice/medicinecat/kit (we are doing them in all stages of life remember?), but other than that kit stage, you can't draw him. Cinderfur was a warrior once, but the colour is unnatural, as are the tabby stripes. -- Dawnfeather 06:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Firstly there is the issue about incorrect blanks here, but that's been mentioned so I'll pass over it. The shading on Jaypaw means that there is an unnatural blue line right around the outside of the image which shouldn't be there. Also, the colour of Cinderfur is too blue and it looks washed out. Both images need the ear pink put in and needs to be blended properly. The stripes are unnatural-looking, try looking at some of the approved tabbies for reference. One more thing: the shading needs to be more thorough and neat and needs to be blurred at the edges so it blends into the image. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 09:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Like everyone else has said the tabby markings are just unnatrual. Second, wasn't Jaypaw a warrior apprentice first since Brightheart was his mentor? I know its not like every cat, but they did treat him that way and he did sleep in the apprentice den. Also there is no pink for the ears.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 16:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No, Cinderfur was an elder, than a deputy. So neither of these are correct. Plus, the colors have a blueish tinge to them. -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 20:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, Cinderfur is a tom, not a she-cat. And I don't think he had long fur. -- Bramble My Realm 21:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Oops! I meant Cinderpelt. Sorry! I didn't know about the rule on only submitting one at a time. 99.166.145.160 23:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

So this is supposed to be Jaypaw and Cinderpelt, yes? In that case the Cinderpelt one will have to be withdrawn because she was never a warrior. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 14:46, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

As we don't have medicine cat blanks yet, I think these will have to be declined. After Hawkfrost is approved feel free to submit more. -- Bramble My Realm 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Transparency
Before a picture is added to an article, it needs to have a transparent background. We already have several without transparent backgrounds that have already been added to their respective articles. If each artist could reupload their pictures with a transparent background, and then remember to do it on future pictures, that would be great. :)

Also, if you're unable to make it transparent, one of the senior warriors or myself can do it for you. -- Bramble My Realm 21:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

It is hard... Misty <font color="Pink" style="background:Gray">stream 21:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why the background evidently showed up black for you, Misty. :/ It's always been white for me, so it is easy to turn it transparent. -- Bramble My Realm 21:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Shadepelt - Approved
I've wanted to do this for awhile, she had to stay behind with the elders, but she was really quite young ;_;. Anyway, she was technically an elder. So yeah. --<font color="black" style="background:blue">DarkHallows Lair 00:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks good, but it looks like, to me, that there's to much shading.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 00:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried to lessen the shading a bit... but I don't know.. It didn't make a huge difference.--<font color="black" style="background:blue">DarkHallows Lair 00:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

This looks great,<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Sandwich <font color="Purple" style="background:black">989 02:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I said a similar thing to this on Voletooth, the shading looks very lumpy, and goes light and dark in weird places, and therefore doesn't look atural. I love the style you have done it in though, and I think it looks great! Thanks for using my blanks! :D -- Dawnfeather 06:08, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Smoothed it out... is it better?--<font color="black" style="background:blue">DarkHallows Lair 14:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

This is beautiful, Shade. The only thing maybe is to increase the ear pink a little. But it looks nice the way it is as well. -- Bramble My Realm 17:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Brightened it a little.--<font color="black" style="background:blue">DarkHallows Lair 18:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks very nice now. As long as there isn't anything else this can be approved soon. -- Bramble My Realm 19:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I think this looks really nice :) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 19:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I would be proud to have this approved. -- Dawnfeather 22:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorreltail - For Approval
Ahhh, bliss. I finally got to upload her. What do you think? I did the tabby markings (that are often found on the ginger part of a tortie's pelt) in the Heathertail fashion, as I think that they are more realistic than the other ones. What do you think? -- Dawnfeather 06:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

This is beautiful, Dawnfeather! I love the softness of it all. I always pictured Sorreltail with more white, but that's just me. The only thing I see wrong with it is teh ear pink is too dark. Try lightening it up a bit. :) --Goldencloud 13:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

This is great, but she has more white then that.<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Sandwich <font color="Purple" style="background:black">989 14:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

It's great Dawn. The only thing that I see is that it could use a little more shading under the chin.--<font color="black" style="background:blue">DarkHallows Lair 16:21, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it has plenty of shading, but maybe add in some white like Sandwich and Goldencloud suggested, and make the ear pink more pink. -- Bramble My Realm 17:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded again. Make that, I tried to upload again. The site won't even let me get up that 'upload a picture' box. how annoying. I fixed the ear easily, but then I couldn't get of the white 'estenions' to look right. One looked ookayish, and so I will upload that one with the old version with a modified ear. -- Dawnfeather 22:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I finally managed to get them uploaded. What do you think? -- Dawnfeather 05:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I personally like the one on the far left best :) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 14:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Sandy. -- Bramble My Realm 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Mudclaw - For Approval
The would-be usurper. I tried to make him look mottled, as that's what his description says. What does everyone think? -- Bramble My Realm 19:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I really like him :) He does look mottled - nice job. The annoying thing about your work? I sit in front of the screen trying to find fault with it and get more annoyed as I find it very hard to! I think perhaps some more shading on his chest and between the front and back leg .  Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 19:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Aw, thanks Sandy! I added the shading, but I don't know if you can tell too much on the chest. -- Bramble My Realm 19:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

You can see the shading and I think this is better now. I personally think it should be approved but does anyone else have any comments? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 19:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

you can barely see the pupil of the eye, and there needs to be more shading in that gap on the belly, between the legs. -- Dawnfeather 05:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't exactly know how to make the pupil more visible, but I changed the eye color to amber, maybe that will help. I also added more shading on the belly. -- Bramble My Realm 16:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

File Names and Adding all Ranks
There was recently a discussion as to whether all the ranks a character has held should be added to the wiki. The decision was that they should. I think that the file names of any approved images should be changed to keep this organised and make it easy to upload them to pages. Currently the image files are inconsistent and do not tell of the rank the image shows. I think that the names should be changed to show something like: Frostfur.queen.png and Frostfur.elder.png etc. Then all the ranks that have been coloured for a character could be added clearly to their page. Any comments on this suggestion? [I would be willing to undertake the job of saving all the currently approved images to my cp, renaming them, making the backgrounds transparent if necessary and reuploading them to the correct pages and adding the nowiki tag to all old files if required.] Phew! That's been playing on my mind for a few days now...(I'm a perfectionist and think it would help to be more organised...) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 19:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

This is an excellent idea, Sandy. I can rename my own pictures and reupload them, though, because I have a laptop and it would just take the best of 15 min. I don't want to tire you out. :)

This leaves the question of where we put the ranks that have been grown out of. I've been thinking about this, and it would work if we take the ranked pic(such as Flamekit) and replace it with the new (such as Flamepaw), and then put the old rank on a caption in the article section where he/she is first seen/heard of in that rank. For Flamekit it would be The Sight, I believe.

Thanks for bringing this up, Sandy. Gave me a chance to spew all that out. :) -- Bramble My Realm 20:10, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the caption idea would work and it wouldn't take too long to modify the existing images. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 08:43, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone else have any comments/suggestions/ideas? Or is anyone against proceeding with this? If not, Sandy, we can probably start soon. -- Bramble My Realm 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 16:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I've just thought of a flaw in the naming... wouldn't it have to be something more like:

prefixkit.png

prefixpaw.png

name.warrior.png

name.queen.png

name.deputy.png

prefixstar.png

name.elder.png

I hope that makes sense - that version accounts for all the cats that never make it to being a warrior or never become an apprentice, or we only see them as an elder etc. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:43, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Sandstorm- For Approval
I guess I sort of lied when I said no more 'popular' cats. But I've seen SO many put up that get declined I decided to do it myself. I used the same shading I did for Honeyfern and Nettleclaw. --<font color="black" style="background:blue">DarkHallows Lair 19:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Beuatiful. I just want you to remove the marking from the eye. By the way, Everyone seems to know how to do texture like this but me. How do you do it? -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 20:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you ^^. I removed the eye mark. As for the texture, it's just a lot of dodging, burning and blurring. It's pretty easy after awhile. --<font color="black" style="background:blue">DarkHallows Lair 20:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)