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Turtlekit (Star) ~ For Approval
!!!! 17:19, 10/29/2016

Nice^^ Maybe define the white parts a tad, since they look a bit gray on my screen

Re-uploaded This is as much as I can define the white parts without them looking neon. 17:34, 10/29/2016

"without them looking neon"??? they can't look neon... they're white. I still can't tell what's white and what's pale gray/gray/ect, though. Even if it is your source that's making them dark, saying they'd look neon seems kind of offensive to people who have pure white.

I honestly don't see how that would be offensive? It's not that it would look neon, it's that it would be too bright from my lightsource. I use this source on all of my StarClan kits. The white parts are the ear, part of the face, chest, paws, elbows, and tail/under the tail. They look pretty white to me. Everywhere else is gray and brown. 23:49, 10/30/2016

I think the white is fine. Anyway, is it me or does she kind of looks like she has a lazy eye? - Jose1106 (talk) 00:07, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe just show the white more on the face and front paw? Jayie Just yo u wait~ 21:35, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Sorry for lack of uploads. Almost forgot I was working on her. Also, I don't see the lazy eye, Jose? And this is as much as I want to brighten the white. It looks gray because of the texture on it. 02:37, 11/03/2016

Her left eye looks lazy, unless I'm seeing things. - Jose1106 (talk) 13:46, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

I think the eyes are fie; Add a touch of light or variation in the shading on the chest 21:08, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

There is light on the chest. I'd rather not touch the shading there, or it will look off and I'll be told to define it. 03:37, 11/04/2016

Define the tail shading, and I agree with Scarlet; you wouldn't be told to define it, since that's what we're asking you to do.

Re-uploaded 23:55, 11/05/2016

Define the tail shading a bit more; I'm still having issues seeing it.

Re-uploaded 13:47, 11/06/2016

Shading is leaking a bit on the <--- ear.

Silt (Ro) - For Approval
Sooo, here's the charart and stuff... 21:33, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe smooth out the shading on the tail and legs Shypaw11 (talk) 23:02, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded ^-^ 23:22, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

it should be rogue for the file name not rouge. 23:45, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps even out the texture a tad -- it kinda looks stripey

Define the light on the legs. 23:50, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the main body some more? 14:06, 10/30/2016

Reuploaded Smoothed out shading, added actual lighting, changed file name. 15:46, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading, and check for shading leakage on the legs

Reuploaded 18:29, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

add shading depth (on the head, tail, body especially).

I think the light on the legs still needs to be defined more. Add the light on the very fronts of the legs. Also on the tail some. 01:35, 10/31/2016

The texture looks kind of like stripes more than texture, if that makes sense. Thin out the lines and/or smooth them more. It should also follow the form of the body more and if at all possible, the light source. Some people feel that adding deeper texture to shaded areas will make it too dark, though. Just a suggestion on how to make it more obvious that it is indeed texture. If you need any clarification, let me know. Sometimes what I type out can seem vague and scrambled, seeing as it is during breaks between my daily life and I kind of just fire it out as I come up with it. 23:02 Mon Oct 31

Reuploaded Best I can do, I'm not very good >.< 01:41, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

smooth out the texture somemore, it still looks like stripes. make it more softer looking as —  Minkclaw   01:54, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading on body and tail especially

Reuploaded 23:11, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

The shading around the belly and ==> hind leg is a little blotchy so smoothen/blur it out. --  20:25, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded 14:27, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Make sure the image is full size when you upload it. In addition, the image looks really grey overall. Can you define the light on the face, legs, and tail? 00:05, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Baaassically redid the whole shading. 19:21, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

The shading is leaking away from the lineart on the body and legs, also maybe define the light on the tail.

Re-uploaded 14:58, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Quailkit (Ki) - For Evaluation
This was my first time trying a charart, I hope its alright. ill try to fix the things but anyone can tweak if they like! Winterpaw I'm unleashed...Run.

So, I changed the title to headings. It should also say "Quailkit (Ki) ~ For Evaulation~. And smudge the white on the belly a little more.-- 00:04, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Definte the shading on the belly, and the fur a bit. And the ear pink doesn't show that much. 00:05, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

And also, take the alignments off too. Like, the "thumb" and "left" in the image. -- 00:06, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I switched the heading to '~ For Evaluation' since it's supposed to be that way for a first image until a lead changes it. I also think the white shouldn't be as big, since it's only supposed to be on the belly, and not the chest area

'''​Reupload - i made the white smaller, did a little shading, and made the ears pinker. '  Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 00:27, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I don't want to be a jerk but, this needs to be named Quailkit.kit.png, not just Kit.png Shypaw11 (talk) 02:01, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

There is waste around all the body. 02:04, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

'''Reupload - I removed surrounding waste and renamed the file and added more things and made the patch more circle. how does it become approved again'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 03:26, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

The nose hole is empty, you might want to fill that in with a light pink color. --Xaviapaw 

The white should only be on the underbelly. Only put it between the legs. 14:05, 10/30/2016

Define the shading, and also the earpink color doesn't match the other image.

What other image? Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 17:12, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Her StarClan image has to match this one.

Was that image even approved? - Jose1106 (talk) 19:31, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so...its not on the page, and Quailkit is a he...   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:48, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload - shading, made the white smaller, made ears more like picture (if that picture is even approved) and made the nose better.   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:57, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Define shading. Are you using Gaussian blur? --  21:31, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

add shading on the legs, head, and add more depth to the eyes. you can refer to the tutorials for more help.

Reuploaded. Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 02:09, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

The senior warriors are inactive right now, please be patient. With the skills you have, I'm sure you'll be promoted in no time, and onto the critique: 1. Firstly, define your light source. Have a specific direction of light hitting the image in mind while shading the image: thats how we perceive shading in the first place. 2. Try to make the shading more visible to the audience. right now you can hardly see it in the way that it would define the shape and build of a cat. 3. The white chest looks unnaturally slapped onto the image, give it a blur/smudge depending on your preference.

Since you're being pushy about becoming an apprentice, I'm making this stay at "for evaluation". You do not decide when you are ready to become an apprentice, the leads do. I don't know who told you that anyone can do it, but they are very misinformed.

Ok, I'll try to fox up the shading, and I think the light is coming from the right, hitting the back. And hmm, the white, I'll try smudging it, but when I tried it it loved very pixelated and wrong, but maybe I can fix that.

Sorry for being pushy, I was impatient. I didn't mean to offend anyone and I know that was annoying. For the information, I just read on the guidelines that once you complete an image 50% you can become an apprentice, but idk. Sorry again! Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:01, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

The leads decide when an image is halfway complete, not you. You may think it is, but there are leads, just as there are in the warriors world. That's why we have senior warriors, a deputy, and a leader. 20:12, 10/31/2016

Define the eye depth (add more darker and lighter colors) and the earpink a bit. And apologies if this counts as repeating a comment, but there appears to be absolutely no shading on the white. At all. If there is, it needs to be defined a lot. 22:57 Mon Oct 31

'''Reupload - thanks for all the suggestions guys, I hope its getting better. once again, sorry Snowed for how I acted. I hope this pic looks better now!'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 00:04, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Define light source^^ Right now, it just seems that there's a ring of extra color touching the lineart, but the shading should only be where light doesn't hit.

What do you mean? Could you explain more? :D   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 22:13, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

It looks better than the last time :). I see your light source much more clearly than before. However, a couple of more things to consider:

1. The shading doesn't seem to cover the parts where it's supposed to cover, aka its "leaking" away from the linear art as people here call it. By this i mean that there are random lighter patches I see visible in the shading. To fix this, just simply go to the layer and give the edge of the linear art a trace where the shading is drawn.

2. Try to darken the shading to make it more visible. It's kind of eye straining to see it. Also, when you do that, it might look a little hard edged, so give it a little blur.

3. Try and get the shading to look more defined. By this I mean that the shading should form visible shapes rather than be blurred all over the image. For reference, take a look at the shadows casted around you right now to see what I mean when shading is a defined shape.

4. Try using a low opacity eraser tool to erase the edge of the white underbelly slightly, as right now it seems to be leaking.

13:38, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

'''Reupload - thanks guys, especially fox girl, that was great advice. hope its better now!'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 23:17, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

I still really can't see the shading, and can only tell that there's a slight difference between it and the base. Would you perhaps darken/define it some?

Reupload Winterpaw: I  am  a  true Monster

Define and darken the shading a bit more. 00:06, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  01:52, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Could you please define/darken the shading? I really can't see it at all on my screen.

Reupload Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  00:41, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Blur/smudge in the shading a tad.

Ashheart (Q) - CBA
Let's try this again, shall we? I fixed the earpink from before, and also took care of some waste. Comments? 18:55, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

wow. its so good! i love the eyes. Maybe make the ear a little less dark so it doesnt get blended into the back as much. Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 20:06, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Reupoaded. Thanks. 20:14, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the main body shading. 00:01, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:35, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

I think <== earpink is leaking the shading a little? <span style="">03:35, 11/03/2016

I'm sorry, but what do you mean by that? 15:19, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

The shading in the earpink is leaking a little; sorry for my mixed up text there lmao. <span style="">16:08, 11/03/2016

Reuploaded. 17:15, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Flamepelt (Star) - For Approval
I only like the shading on this. <span style="">22:33 Mon Oct 31

The shading by the eye and right half of e face looks a little too dark, but it's your call! It looks amazing btw. Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 22:55, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

It's fine. Can you smooth out the shading some more? <span style="">23:34, 10/31/2016

Reuploaded <span style="">01:40 Tue Nov 1

Could you make the stripes a little more visible? I can barely see them without zooming in. --<font face="cursive" color="FFBA86" size="4">Xaviapaw 

That's how the stripes look on flamepelt's other images.

Not changing them. I colorpicked the darkest area on the stripes possible on both images in the set. <span style="">14:46 Wed Nov 2

define shading on the paw farthest from us —  Minkclaw   21:37, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="">02:43 Thu Nov 3

The tail shading is a little odd; you mind smoothing it out some more? It might just be me though. <span style="">03:35, 11/03/2016

Can I get another opinion on it? This is how the shading is on a lot of my other images and I'm not entirely sure if smoothing it will make it any better... <span style="">15:03 Thu Nov 3

The light source on the tail doesn't match the rest of the body 21:07, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

The shading around the muzzle makes the cat look flat-faced. --<font face="cursive" color="FFBA86" size="4">Xaviapaw 

Fallowfern (E) ~ For Approval
i like only the eyes —  Minkclaw   19:12, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit on the haunches? Looks good man 19:14, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Give the shading more shape; it doesn't really have that right now and looks like it's also leaking away from the lineart almost everywhere.

Re-Upps, thanks Man —  Minkclaw   01:21, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Do you use Gaussian blur? I highly recommend never using that. It's better to blur it with the blur tool itself that the Gaussian blur, because it can make the shading leak away from the lineart a lot, in which case it is doing so here. The blob in the middle of the image, specifically. Could you perhaps fix that up a little? The shading is leaking onto the back leg's knee, which shouldn't have shading on it. Also the tail-tip shouldn't have any shading on it, and that is leaking onto the front leg. And maybe get rid of the shading on the back leg right under the tail too, as that wouldn't be in shading either. <span style="">03:34, 11/03/2016

Re-Upps, well I had to cope with the stuff I could use on Pixlr as my current program was somehow messing up. The shading on the leg by the tail, the back one, was supposed to be there.—  Minkclaw   11:34, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't see any difference? <span style="">13:55, 11/03/2016

I removed the shading from the tail tip and paw as well as the hind leg. I see it. —  Minkclaw   14:03, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

There's still shading on the tail-tip that needs to be removed, and I can still see shading on the hing leg. <span style="">14:47, 11/03/2016

The hind leg is supposed to be there as it would be hidden in shadow by her tail and body. I 'll remove the tail shading later. —  Minkclaw   15:29, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

No, not the hind leg leg, I meant the bend in the knee by the blob on the middle. <span style="">15:31, 11/03/2016

Hm..the elbow looking thing, I'll remove that —  Minkclaw   15:34, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

lighten, expand, and blur the shading 17:36, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps —  Minkclaw   22:37, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Expand the shading - it looks more like a stripe atm, imo. <span style="">09:48, 11/07/2016

can I get second on that as it does not, there are several other elders with this light and shading source. —  Minkclaw   15:09, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Shading is leaking a tiny bit on the belly.

I'd think expanding the shading slightly wouldn't hurt, just so it could be a bit more of a gradient. That might help add some shading depth to the image, which I think it needs

Clovertail(E) ~ For Approval
Idk. And I'll be smoothing out that weird patch of white on the top of the shoulder next upload.

Define the shading a bit. 00:00, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Smudge the white some more, it looks a little hard-edged in places and define and sharpen the ear-pink 06:40, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

it's not even smudged on the other images, it's blurred. but, it's not blurred that much... it's a soft transition and shouldn't be smudged in the least.

Reuploaded

Define the earpink, I can hardly see it. <span style="">03:31, 11/03/2016

Reuploaded

The white is still overblurred.

Reuploaded

Comments?

Honeytail (Q) - CBA
I assume her current images are based on manga panels, considering none of them are pale ginger 00:45, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit more and use a lighter color on the bottom corners of the eyes where they are darkest, they're beggining to look black. --<font face="cursive" color="FFBA86" size="4">Xaviapaw 

Is this the perma-queen blank, or the other one? I honestly can't tell and my eyes are bad. She should be given the perma-queen one, as it's never said she has kits, but she lives in the nursery to help the other queens.


 * oh... i'll fix that after hw 03:17, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

this doesn't really look pale ginger maybe lighten the base some? —  Minkclaw   21:35, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

I think it's pale enough, tbh. <span style="">22:42, 11/02/2016

Re-uploaded she's no longer preggers c:   02:40, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

There's some waste by the back leg that's hidden mostly. <span style="">03:30, 11/03/2016

Re-uploaded 03:57, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

Comments? 04:34, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Berryheart (Ro) ~ For Approval
I'm trying another one :3 --Cheetahfur (talk) 15:18, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

define shading, this is pretty good —  Minkclaw   16:19, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

For the white placement, there would be a tiny bit less white on the tail, and also, the white doesn't go all the way up the face on the other images. It seems to cut off between the eyes in a triangle instead of completely up

Is that texture, or just a shading style..? Because her queen, the first in the set, doesn't have texture.

Reuploaded I did play around with the shading a bit, but it was hard to keep it similar to the other ones because they are all really black (also thanks :). Fixed the head and tail white patches. And yes, it's both texture and shading style. I lessened it up a bit and tried a smoother lighter gray. --Cheetahfur (talk) 14:44, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Well, this image can't have texture, so if you added both, you'll have to remove the texture itself, as none of the other images have it.

Reuploaded Done --Cheetahfur (talk) 13:37, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Blossomheart (W) - CBA
Idk. 22:11, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Could you smooth the shading slightly everywhere but the face? pretty kitty :3

Re-uploaded. I tried. 23:25, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Hickorynose (Star) - For Approval
Ok try number 2! I promise I'll try to keep a better watch on him this time around! 00:56, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

smooth shading some —  Minkclaw   04:20, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

The shading's leaking away from the lineart slightly on the tail, and also maybe define the shading on the paws

Parsleyseed (W) - For Approval
I'm pretty happy with this. Thoughts? Jayie Just yo u wait~ 02:48, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Wow Jayie, it's literally just amazing. I don't know if this is a problem or anything, but maybe make the tail stripes less blended in and maybe just a tad thinner to make it more like the others, and blend the shading so it doesn't overlayer the tail a bit??? Also, idk maybe blend the lighter chest part into the darker brown a bit more? Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">I <span style="color:#ff80aa;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">am <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">a <span style="color:#ff80aa;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">true <span style="color:#993399;font-family:CopperPlate;font-size:12px;background:Black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">Monster

Thanks. :) The tail stripes are thicker because that's how they are on the apprentice image, but I can thin them out a little to make them match better. I'm not sure what you mean by "overlayering" the tail, could you explain that more? And I think the lighter chest matches the apprentice well (the lighter fur is harder to see on that one because of how the shading is placed), but I dunno. Jayie  Just yo u wait~ 04:48, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Reuplaoded. Thinned out the tail stripes a little, and also darkened the shading a bit. Jayie Just yo u wait~ 20:02, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

By overshadowing, I mean that the shading on the trial is just a little bit too dark that I can't see the stripes or designs on it, up that's just my opinion, it's not necessary. :D Winterpaw:  <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster 22:34, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

I think it looks fine^^

Looking at his apprentice image, it looks like his paws on that one are a bit lighter compared to the rest of the body. I'm not sure if that's just light or if it's actually lighter colored though. <span style="">04:23 Mon Nov 7

Define the shading on the two back paws.

Plumwillow (Q) ~ For Approval
<span style="">18:45 Sat Nov 5

Nice^^ Maybe define the shading on legs and tail, and also there's some shading leaking away from the lineart on the <-- side of the face.

Re-uploaded Thanks! <span style="">04:17 Sun Nov 6

do u think u could possibly add a bit of light on the back leg completely in shadow or lighten it a little? makes it look like a big blob of shading 12:27, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">14:05 Sun Nov 6

Define the light on the tail, as I can't tell there's any at all.

Re-uploaded <span style="">04:15 Mon Nov 7

I think the stomach shading is leaking a little by <== back leg. <span style="">18:58, 11/07/2016

Taylor (KP) - For Approval
This name is very special to me. I am not changing the collar at all. If you don't like it, tough luck. I may tweak the pattern later, though.

i love it, the eyes and collar are nice. maybe smothen out the pattern a bit, it looks an awful lot like a skeleton :P Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  00:57, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Define the shading depth a touch? Love the collar. <span style="">01:15, 11/07/2016

Re-uploaded.

Finpaw (Ki) - For Approval
Hope my layers don't collide like they did previously ;-;.

This shouldn't be 'For Evaluation', as you clearly know what you're doing, and idk why no one else caught this before now.

Waspwhisker (D) ~ For Approval
06:58, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Cherrypaw (SHA) (Star) - For Approval
08:37, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Define the depth in the eyes, and perhaps make them a bit brighter?

Ivy (Lo) ~ For Approval
lets try again shall we  <span style="">11:58 Mon Nov 7 

thin out the ginger on the black part of the body, there shouldn't be a ginger patch on her neck, the shoulder patch of ginger should be a little bigger and so should the ginger patch on her thigh. the ginger on the tail should mostly be on the underside, thats what i was going for with the kittypet. 18:56, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Oatkit (Ki) ~ For Approval
- Jose1106 (talk) 20:59, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the dapples very slightly? Nice job!