User talk:Waitingforspring/Draft

Impressions/Notes

 * Wow, nice job Helix. I can't imagine how long this would take to write ^^; I agree with most of this stuff, we have been lacking in this sort of organization for a while. But there are a few points I'd like to discuss. For the Voting/Discussion of policies and other things, I think we do offer opportunity for people to discuss and voice their opinions, it's just that most people, well, don't do that. Maybe it is because of this issue, that they don't know if they're allowed to. I agree on the Communication section - admittedly I have been lacking on this front and will try to make amends. For the User Rights section, I can't recall of any article being deleted because an anonymous or new user made it. Yes, many article made by anons or new users have been deleted, but not because of who made them, but because the fact is that anonymous and new users often aren't as tuned into what pages should be created and what pages shouldn't. Which brings me to the Deletion and Reverting Section. I know this is something we have disagreed on, but I think that the questions to ask about whether a page should be deleted shouldn't only be "Do we need this?" or "Is this against the wiki's purpose?". Both of those should be asked along with the question, "Is this information easily available somewhere else already?" Allow me to explain. Let's say, someone creates a page entitled "GraystripexSilverstream" talking about their relationship. This is not a type of page we have on the wiki now, but it does not go directly against the purpose of offering information about Warriors. And yet most people here would agree that we do not need that because we don't make pages for shippings. Same thing would go for say, making a separate page talking about Warrior Duties which are already listed on the Warrior page. The information is already there and easy to find, so there's no reason to make another page for it. By asking all three of those questions it makes more sure that the article will really add something to the site as well as fitting in with the rest of our structure. The Manual of Style is definitely something we could use, we've tried to have the format section on Project:Characters serve that purpose but no one really looks there anyway XD I can only think of one thing to add to what you already have there, that mentors and apprentices should be cited as well. Community portal, definitely. Once I get some time I'll work on a new format for it without the forums section and with some other useful links, and the talk page can be used as a hub for questions and other such things. Current Best Practices section, I agree. I had kinda noticed this problem but was a bit too lazy to do anything and couldn't think of where to post it anyways :P But it would definitely save arguments over the same topics again and again.
 * My final request is that even after we reach consensus on these, we enact policies one by one or gradually. So that other users can have time to adapt to each policy, even though they are already kind of unwritten rules, having them as solid regulations might take getting used to and I don't want to force too much on everybody at once.
 * really long comment done. I hope it wasn't too um... contradiciting to your point or anything :P insane  brick'd 15:25, June 5, 2010 (UTC)