Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Declined 3

Sandstorm - Withdrawn by User
Drew Sandstorm. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. G B 01:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There is a reason that she is called Sandstorm, and not Slightly-lighter-colour-than-Firestar-storm. Sorry if that sounded a little mean. --Spottedleaf x firestar 15:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ginger cats are the same thing as orange, Sxf! G B 16:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I am Not saying they aren't. I'm just saying 1. Firestar is EXCEPTIONALLY brightly coloured. and 2. Sandstorm is LIGHT ginger/sand coloured, like I said above.

Ginger is pretty much orange.A shade of orange.-- Jayfeather Sheikah 19:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

hm...this looks more like Squirrelflight's colour than Sandstorm's. I too would imagine Sandstorm to be a slightly lighter shade...more like sand. The eyes are the perfect colour though! --Sandstar12 16:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Like Jay said above, ginger is pretty much orange. Squirrelflight is ginger as well, but have you seen her image? G B 22:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

This looks fine...but the shading seems a bit minimal, and also is not blurred. It's mentioned that Sandstorm has barely visible, light ginger tabby stripes. You probably want to do the tabby, or, if you can't, at least add the tabby M. --FxC **The Waterfall** 01:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I always imagined Sandstorm as a sandy tan color. After all, that's why she's called Sandstorm.--Shaf Girl 19:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I re-did her with the tabby M. G B 01:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. Just needs blurtool. Otherwise, you sure did her justice! --FxC **The Waterfall** 01:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't have a blurtool; is that the same as blending, though? 'Cause if it is, I can do that. G B 01:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is right, but I think blurtool just means you need to blur/blend the hard shading edges into teh rest of the coat to give it a softer edge and therefore make it look more realistic. (but I'm no expert - that's what i think...)--Sandstar12

The book description is "a pale ginger she-cat". I do no think that the image is pale. Swifty {ASTRX} 16:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I tried to blend it, a little. G B 22:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've always considered 'ginger' to have a yellowy color to is (like a ginger root when you cut it open). It's certainly not the shade I've ever envisioned Sandstorm as... Also, shading needs to be increased and properly blended.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Ja it needs to be lighter.--Whenyouknowthenotestosing 23:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I see no diffrence.--Whenyouknowthenotestosing 01:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, I don't see a difference at all.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 04:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

The colour is a little paler than it was before. I still think it needs more shading though--Sandstar12 12:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually a lot of shading should be added.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 16:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Shading; on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Done. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 17:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Needs blending, and shading over the entire body. Not just on the back and chest. I'm also still holding to the idea that the color you're using isn't 'ginger'. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I just can't seem to nail what she needs, so I'm withdrawing her. I'll just work on the other images I have uploaded. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:32, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Blanks - Declined
This is my hand-drawn base. My first try at making blanks. PLEASE criticize me. BTW this is female, longhaired. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 01:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

You might want to add herbs in the picture, to make the status more obvious. -- Swifty {ASTRX} 01:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

The lines look like they should be a bit bolder. Otherwise, this is good.

Wow, this is really good. The only problem I see is that it is a little big. Medicine cats are usually smaller than most warriors. If only we could shorten it up, it would be perfect!-- J K  O  02:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Scaled the image, what do ya guys think now? Swifty, adding herbs might be something the actual artist would do, but I'm not completely sure. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

This is really very good. It is, in my opinion, the same sort of style as the current blanks although I do agree that maybe the lines need to be a bit bolder, but I'm not sure whether doing that would ruin the image... I like it! --Sandstar12 19:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Much better!-- J K  O  01:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a nice start, but I have major issues with how rough the lineart itself is, and I won't be able to accept it unless that all gets smoothed out and made a bit more professional looking. Right now it's not really usable because of the jaggedness of the outlines. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Wait....Medicine Cats don't have bumpy backs. It sorta looks like it took some Bad Medicine :)ZZ Top 11:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

ZZ Top, that was not necessary. You could have said, maybe you could fix the bumpy back.-- J K  O  14:14, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Politeness is a must, ZZtop. Additionally, there is no reason to repeat and pound people with comment on things that have already been bought up unless there have been updates and the point hasn't been improved yet. Remember, people donate their time to do these things and deserve respect, even if you don't agree with the execution. Without respect nothing would get done on this project. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 00:46, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I would like to decline these on my own because I completely forgot about them and am now working on Deputy blanks. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Declined, as per player request. Shall be archiving tommorow. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Berrynose - Declined
Hello, WWiki. This is my first CharArt and I hope that it gets accepted. I tried my hardest, and please critique me. Fro stl eaf Winter 01:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

To much lineart covered by the coloring........-- J K  O  02:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree w/ Jakko. And don't be so harsh, please! As your mentor I ask you to please be more patient. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 12:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

There's almost no shading, and if you look closely, the background behind his hind leg is cream-colored. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Also, I just noticed, there's no ear! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 20:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Shoot! I thought I forgot something! Thanks :P! Fro stl eaf Winter 02:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * When people submit art to this project, it is with the assumption that thier art will be judged against the established quality level and they will be told when their are issues with it. It is not being harsh when you're telling them something that is going to keep it from being accepted. I'm sick of people inflating egos and stroking them and growing them up only for me to have to come along and be the only person with the honesty to tell them it's not going to be acceptable. While it never hurts to make your criticism constructive and include notes on things that where done right... There is nothing wrong with letting people know the points for improvement. The lineart DOES need to be brought back, and then the shading needs to be amped up big time to create that nice touch of realism. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Declining this, as it's been close to a week since the artist has commented. Will be archiving tomorow. The artist can resubmit later if they resume work. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Jaypaw - Declined
Ah, I just wanted to draw Jaypaw for the site. I'm assuming it won't be accepted, though, as it's not on a base? If it is accepted, though, I'd be more than happy to do more of these custom pictures. I love drawing the Warrior cats. C: But, even if it's not accepted, I had fun drawing it!! --Hazelflower 23:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

If you assume it won't be accepted, why did you add it to the page? -- swifty {ASTRX} 00:17, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Because there's always that small inkling of hope. :D --Hazelflower 00:27, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Since it is not done in a base, it will not be accepted. -- swifty {ASTRX} 00:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain that you're right and this won't be accepted, but this is a very cool drawing! Why don't you try taking one of the bases and coloring that to make a character? --Sandstar12 12:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

For one thing, this will never be approved. Another thing, we don't have a medicine cat blank. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your effort, Hazelflower, but the project is using blanks we have rather than seeking original art. We are looking for additional blanks that fit style-wise with the ones we have (The image you've displayed is a bit on the Anime side, and not full body for our standards, but just because you like an Anime Style doesn't mean you can't draw realistic.). Will archive in about 24 hours. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 02:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Geez, GB, that first sentence sounded harsh. XD But I know you didn't mean any offense by it. :D Also, thanks, Kitsu. I understand, and I really didn't think about it until a while after I put it up. I think I'll work on some blanks soon, and make sure they're realistic. Either way, thanks again! --Hazelflower 02:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Sandstorm - Declined
Since Squirrelflight was approved, I thought I try my hand at Sandstorm. I think I might need to redo her outline though. Make comments as you please.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 20:08, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Shimmerpool, I made this its own section. First, it is too small an image. We also already have a Sandstorm for approval. swifty {ASTRX} 20:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I know it shrank for some odd reason when I uploaded it and I'm trying to figure out why! But there has been two images before for the same cats though, I've seen it. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:55, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm already working on Sandstorm, and the only time I ever saw two images of the same cat up for approval was when Redflare put Sorreltail up for approval, and SxF (who didn't much understand PCA in the first place) put up another one because she wanted the file-format on Redflare's changed. Both were declined. I'll have to ask Kitsu, but I don't think you're supposed to do this. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:01, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, have Kitsu put this in the declined archive instead of removing it from the page. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 02:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * We've never had a full conflict like this, though this one isn't acceptable due to not downloading the full sized blank (It's in the instructions, people! Gotta read those things. I don't type that stuff for my health.). Basically, though, priority would go to the one that began the process first, IMO. It never occurred to me that we would need a rule that says "If someone's got a picture of a cat in approvals, don't bother submiting that same character"... I'll write up something official soon. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 02:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Leader Blanks - Declined
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Hi, I'm back again with some blanks! I hope they're OK! --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 21:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, these are more anime style, very bland, and quite small, as well as inconsistent eye design. But good effort. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 00:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

They look more like dogs than cats. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

They're kind of.. circleclish. I've read that a cat's head is square.Mallinois 02:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I see. Sorry! --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 13:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Currently these simply don't meet the expectation for realism that we have. As for the shape of a cats' head... It does vary with type, but from an artistic standpoint a square won't get you something that looks truly feline. (I've made enough blanks in my time to know this, most of mine are for CoSC and on Devart, though. I've only done the kitten for here). Also: I tweaked how the blanks where being displayed to make 'em hang out more clearly with the proper comments. It's a good effort, and we appreciate it... But a lot of work will have to be done before they're anywhere near acceptable. We're looking for something more realistic. I'm going to decline these while you take some time to improve them (The anatomy needs a lot of work, too much to be honest to keep things here at this point). Feel free to resubmit once you've improved them, allright? <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)