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Daisy (Alt. Queen) -up for approval


Shade the strip of white on her back, where the shading ends. If the background is transparent, the shading should have no effect on the background. I see nothing else wrong. Nice job, Elorisa. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the back. 22:26, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I color-picked this, and it needs to be a very very light gray/silver. (barely white) Yours is completely white, change that, but other that and the other stated, it looks good. 22:28, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to withdraw this because I have no time to do it, between school and other wikia duties I have. Someone else can free to work on this. 03:23, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

There's little left to be done; I'll take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the shading along the back less blotchy. 03:31, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Everything has been blurred, the lineart has been fixed, and I've made it slightly more silver and less white. Is there anything else? -- 04:05, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. There is a white pixel on the haunch-- 04:31, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading can be made thicker just a tad more. 22:42, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Erm...Since Bramble left and Oblivion said that ppl w/ free time can do the ones Bramble took over I will take over...Snowbreeze 03:53, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded There...comments? Snowbreeze 04:05, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Daisy.queen.alt 20:24, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Center the ear pink, and make it less purple. 21:59, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploded comments Snowbreeze 22:07, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Form the ear-pink into more of a triangular shape. 23:15, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded comments? Snowbreeze 23:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Center the earpink. It's WAAAAAY off. And it's touching the lineart. ♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 00:10, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and I would lighten it some as well. 03:00, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

darken the ear pink and make it smaller. Also, blur the ear pink ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:38, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.... Snowbreeze 22:58, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink shape is now good, however, the colour is different. Make it even and darker. 04:17, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

REuploaded comments? Snowbreeze 19:56, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit. 00:04, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more triangular as well. 14:24, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink shape is fine. Darken the shading. 15:36, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

* coughs* Please rename it Daisy.queen.alt 19:02, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed the name comments? Snowbreeze 18:20, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

...no, you didn't. It's still called Daisy queen alt. Rename the image Daisy.queen.alt 21:36, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok,i know what happend,i didnt hit save when i fixed the name,duh,anway fixed that,comments? Snowbreeze 09:26, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Snowbreeze, remember to add a space after commas and periods, and try your best to spell words. The ear-pink seems smudged outward. 01:08, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, so very sorry, I fixed the ear-pink, anything else, and what did I misspell? Anyway comments? Snowbreeze 15:26, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink-- 17:19, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Also, center the ear pink a bit more. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, but the ear pink needs to be blurred. ~Lazy Mumble785 didn't log in. 02:11, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the background transparent. 22:26, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

My regets, sorry for not being on, i have other things gong on, but i Shall work on this. 71.164.203.114 00:13, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry about the background. It's already transparent. :) 00:32, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... It's been a while since I'd been on. I have no idea what the "alternates" are, and I was just wondering... Isn't daisy supposed to be cream, not white? Butterfly } { Song!  00:18, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yes she is. An Alternate image is a secondary charart for characters who've been given different descriptions from their normal or basic; such as if Graystripe were referred to as a black tom or something. Does this answer your question, Crystal? Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 18:13, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

I hope it's okay if I blurred the ear pink for you. ^_^ -- 14:47, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be blurred some more- 00:35, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

oh god dang im so sorry, i've let my grades take over 0.-, thanks, Midnite^^

i shall blur the earpink Snowbreeze January 7, 2011 (UTC) im to lazy to log in.....

Ok fixed the earpink, comments? Snowbreeze 03:50, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and more reddish-- 03:55, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink too. 21:01, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail highlight. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 01:56, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Name the image 'Daisy.queen.alt' 18:53, January 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Poor Daisy. This is her second alternate image. Therefore, it can't be named that, since there are two different ones that require the same name. I'll ask Oblivion what this should be named. 01:04, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, it can, since I'm pretty sure the other one is named Daisy.queen.alt2 or something. You can go ahead and name it Daisy.queen.alt, Snowbreeze. 01:43, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- night  shine  ❄ 02:19, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, im sorry, i just side tracked, i fixed it but then didn't upload it Snowbreeze is too lazy to log in or upload....

ok i wont let me upload teh pic....Snowbreeze 14:54, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Here you emilaed me the file, i uploaded it for you there you go^^ Maplepool 20:40, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval?-- Night  shine  20:43, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

The background needs to be transparent. 01:11, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

It is transparent. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:10, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, it's not. It's white. 05:41, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

I can make it transparent. Repeating 24 hours-- Night  shine  07:14, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sagepaw (A)- For Approval


Blur all shading thoroughly, particularly that on the haunch. Other than that, very nice, Dovesong12. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! Blur the tail shading and the shading on the back. -- 20:31, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get right to it. Merry Christmas! o3o 15:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Had to rename it. Merry Christmas! o3o 17:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little.★ ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ ★ 17:08, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Sagepaw.apprentice.alt, or it will not show up on his page when it's approved. 11:31, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights brighter. -- 20:07, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

This is his actual apprentice form, I'll rename it Sagepaw.apprentice. Will get to later. Merry Christmas! o3o 21:54, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, that's what I meant... so many people name the alternate apprentice images wrong, it was just automatic for me to write that. Thanks for pointing that out! :) 21:58, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticeable. 03:32, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm getting to this, so please don't decline this, for I am VERY busy right now. Merry Christmas! o3o 22:00, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. 22:42, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you could blur the highlight on the tail. 03:05, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

If someone needs to take over because of inactiveness, could I take over? Mistfire Owl City! 04:15, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Dovesong still has a few days to work on this -- 23:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink not tough the line-art and blur the front paw closest to us. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:41, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Soooooo sorry for not being on here. I'm geting to it, but I had to swich computers. Give me just a bit. I'm off school due to ice, so I now have plenty of time. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 14:05, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I re-did him. Can someone help with blurring the shading? It won't blur. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 15:31, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - There is color outside the tali lineart. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:13, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 21:57, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur highlights and shading. 00:05, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more visible. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  11:46, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone help me with the shading; it refuses to blur for me. <font color="Silver" >☯Silver <font color="Goldenrod" > Bells☮ 13:13, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I blurred the shading for you and darkened it a bit-- 17:59, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights. :) - 14:40, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 00:32, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I can take over on this-- 19:14, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded 19:29, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder highlight and brighten the earpink. 19:56, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred shoulder highlight and changed ear pink-- 20:05, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink more. 01:18, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 01:21, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened shading. The ear pink looks fine to me-- 01:29, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the head highlight and earpink. 00:02, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred face shading and ear pink-- 00:12, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

The legs are looking a bit flat. 00:15, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading. Looks good :) 99.58.17.98 00:27, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened shading and blurred neck shading--Night shine 00:43, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oh sorry that comment was me XD I was logged out for some reason. Well I might as well comment again, so maybe brighten the earpink a little. 00:46, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

If I brighten it then it will be hard to see. I think it looks fine--Night shine 01:14, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

The neck shading still needs to be blurred a little. Otherwise it looks great! :) 00:06, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred neck shading-- night  shine  ❄ 00:15, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

very good! 00:40, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

The back of the neck should be shaded, and I think the shading and highlights are a little blotchy. 01:08, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded smoothed out shading and darkened shading at back of neck-- night  shine  ❄ 00:21, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading in between the shoulder and haunch (the stomach, I guess :P) and there is a peice of darker shading above the eyes. Maybe lighten that so it's the same shade as the rest of his face. 21:22, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred shading. The bit of shading above his eye was put there intentionally because if the light is coming from the right there would be a shadow there-- night  shine  ❄ 00:45, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink, and make it bigger as well. 06:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

As I've said before, if I lighten the ear pink it will be hard to see, and if I make it bigger then it will fill up the entire ear line art-- night  shine  ❄ 07:24, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. It doesn't need lightening. Move the shoulder highlight up a bit. Looks good =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 07:30, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded moved shoulder highlight up. I think the ear pink is fine right now-- Night  shine  01:17, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. A) - For Approval


Blur so that the pelt is smoothed, and not blotchy. Use the blur tool and smudge tool, whatever you can, to smooth out the patches of light and dark so it all runs together smoothly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? If so, blur the shading a lot. 21:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shading overall has been modified as well as blurred. I've uploaded twice, but there does not seem to be any change in the actual image. I will check back tomorrow and try uploading again if there is no change. -- 04:27, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I see the changes, I think. XD Move the ear-pink up so it isn't touching the line-art. 23:57, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, blur the shading on the paws and tail. 02:26, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think this is the correct version. The shading looks much to blotchy. 01:00, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

I see it fine, however, the shoulder highlight does need to be blurred. 05:19, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Since Bramble no longer wants to do images, anyone who isn't working on something can take over this. 20:25, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

If no one is taking over this image, may I do it? 21:33, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, make sure you reserve it, too. 23:13, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. 02:30, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to smooth it out as best I could. Comments? 03:04, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the tail shading, lighten the ear pink a bit and move it up- 23:06, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I would blur the highlights some more. 14:25, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? 22:42, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

The shading seems really blotchy and the ear pink needs to be blurred and made a bit bigger. 21:15, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 19:06, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I'm on vacation and I didn't have internet until today. I'll edit it as soon as I can. 14:39, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I've blurred it to the max. Comments? 15:15, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights more consistent. 23:24, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any comments? 01:34, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Move the earpink up so it isn't touching the lineart and make the transition between shading and highlights more consistent. Smudging then blurring helps. Looks good. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 08:00, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! :D However, it appears to me that there's too much contrast between the shading and the highlights. Could you lighten the shading a little or blur it more? :3 -- 14:39, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 19:59, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'll upload it in a sec. Sorry for the delay! 18:08, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened the shading and darkened the highlights so there is less contrast between the two. I also moved the ear pink, and blurred everything to the max. Any comments? -- 18:21, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading seems a bit splotchy, try to smooth it out with the smudge tool. Lighten the ear pink. Darken the shading-- 19:54, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger as well. 04:11, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Also, I would say lighten the ear pink. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I wasn't able to darken the shading, because it got all blotchy and when I tried to darken the highlights to fix it, I couldn't really blur it well. I can try doing it on GIMP. Oh and I need to work on the ear pink. I'll do that in a sec. 22:01, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading-- night  shine  ❄ 02:18, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. 21:18, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks really blotchy, I suggest blur it in one direction only so it might help a bit. Darken the ear pink, as well. 00:48, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if you blur in different directions; but it seems as if you have smuged the shading. 23:29, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and there is also some extra line-art pixels near the tail. 23:30, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a bit when you enlarge it. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:15, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still working on this, but just to let you all know, I won't have internet on Friday and Saturday because I'm going away. I will reupload in a sec. 02:31, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Err... Reuploaded I don't think there's much of a difference, in my opinion. Or maybe its just my computer. 02:35, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur everything, darken the shading on the bottom of the haunch, lighten shading under the neck, enlarge highlight on tail, and move the earpink up a tad. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 01:56, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Birchfall~Alt (ki)~ Up for Approval


Ear pink desperately needs to be blurred; take care not to blur the lineart. Make the pink color fade into the gray, so it is not popping out. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Background also needs to be transparent. 03:35, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

ok i'll get right on itMaplepool 23:00, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

There is one pixel that you are missing; on the back foot. 22:50, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that? Maplepool 23:01, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

oh i see a mistake allow me to fix it before you comment on it^^ Maplepool 23:07, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ok NOW you may comment Maplepool 23:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png there is an extra period there. Darken the shading, make the ear pink more reddish, darken the nose colour-- 04:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

You are still missing that extra pixel. Make the ear-pink smaller. 16:32, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:14, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

The backgound still isn't transparent. 21:43, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

um dumb question how do i make the background transparent? lol^^; sorry i dont know how...Maplepool 14:58, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I can do it for you. 23:25, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

oh PLEASE do it frostheart...I have no clue how^^; and when you do tht i'll make the changes. Maplepool 23:54, November 27, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!

nvm...i'll make the changes then frostheart,if she'll be nice enough,will make it transparent Maplepool 02:50, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!!

 Reuploaded  there i did some extra and if frostheart will mke the background transparnet i'd owe her one ^^ Maplepool 03:10, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!!

Make the ear pink darker. Also, make the highlights brighter and darken the shading. Blur the shading on the tail and on the haunch. -- 20:09, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Birchfall.kit.alt 01:55, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  gah^^; i already did Birchfall.alt.kit.png so to upload it i had to add the two...^^; embarssining... Maplepool 03:40, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the wait, I forgot. :P And I can't upload it, it reverts it to a past..photo. o_o So..I'll tell you how. XD You get the wand tool (looks like a wand. :3) and you click on the background. The kit image has a few loose pixels, so you have to click the strays and erase them. After you click the background, you select the erase tool and erase the background. 03:51, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

ok,thanks^^,I'll get it after school Maplepool 04:05, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that?..i hope i got it... Maplepool 22:43, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

dang i didnt....hold on let me fix that Maplepool 22:45, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading along the edges of his fur where you made it darker. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 22:49, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  there ows that?

Make the ear pinks more even and triangular. 03:34, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded Hows that? Maplepool 22:21, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink fit into the ears. When we say "make it more triangular" we don't mean make it into a perfect triangle, but make it less blobby. Y'know? Also, make the earpink shade a little less violent and blur it a lot. 23:55, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  there hows that? Maplepool 01:52, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

The background should be transparent. Great image, though! 04:19, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  thre got it^^ Maplepool 13:24, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome job! =D There is something going on with the tail shading, though. There are scraps of shading and highlights here and there. Could you make it more smooth? -- 01:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks ok i'll get right on it Maplepool 01:58, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Once again, please rename it Birchfall.kit.alt 02:02, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I mean no disrespect,Oblivion,but,I can't see,I have uploaded this so many times,it goes to a past photo,so,I add the number of tries till it gets approved,so if I seem disrepectful,its just because,I can't do it...my aplogies... Maplepool 02:12, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  comments? Maplepool 02:12, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink, thicken the shading, add shading under the chin. Rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png -- 06:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I cant it revets it to a past photo....Maplepool 14:01, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? It should just overwrite over the existing one-- 04:29, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

While it wont!Im sorry it says 'this photo already exists etiher fix the name or go with one we have' ok? im sorry it just wont hacking work!god..sorry if im being rude,but this thingy going on with the names its,ANNOYING ME!....Maplepool 04:33, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's okay to overwrite the existing image. If it isn't named Birchfall.kit.alt.png it won't show up on his article-- 04:38, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that? i added the shading under the chin,I just use a weaker brush....Maplepool 03:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * faceplam* missed the name hold on...fixed there we goMaplepool 03:20, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur it. Desaturate the ear pink-- 03:23, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Erm stupid question again what does Desaturate mean? im like 14 and i dont remeber.....Maplepool 02:44, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturating is used with the sponge tool. It'll give you the option of either saturate or desaturate. Also, the shadin along the edges needs to be blurred more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  03:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows tht? gosh i had to keep restarting god GIMP HATES ME NOW T-T Maplepool 05:55, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading a lot more, darken the shading under the chin, make the ear pink more reddish, rename it Birchfall.kit.alt-- 06:19, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. 01:10, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  *takes in breath* 'FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL EPIC FAIL!!!!!! 'Maplepool 13:39, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink could be desaturated or lightened, it's too bright and also needs to be blurred. Also, add a little more shading on the legs. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  14:24, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that?...doesn't look all that bad now.... Maplepool 15:01, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tips of his fur and make the background transparent. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 15:25, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  Comment ferclily i shall upload Maplepool 15:40, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Add more shading to the tail. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  15:57, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  comments?

Thicken the shading a lot blur it, add shading under the chin, darken the ear pink a bit. I suggest you make the nose colour dark gray-- 20:35, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded *takes in breath* '''FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL EPIC FAIL!!!!!! '''Nightshine,may i suggest a job for you? Book Editer/Crict,you almost made me miss doing my homework work on this,If i think/blur the shading hes gonna be black....

The shading is too dark on the edge of the fur, just lighten that a little bit... just a little. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  01:07, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

You still need to thicken the shading. I don't see how blurring the shading would darken it. Desaturate the ear pink- 03:56, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Question(wow...) How do I think the shading? and what i meant was,i keep on adding to the shading,it kept getting darker....Maplepool 04:09, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

The background needs to be transparent. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

O.o i thought it was....the plxir background for transpaernt is there.....Maplepool 13:13, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

First off, lighten the shading on his left side (our right) using the dodge tool and then increase the burn brush's size. Then shade the left side of Birchfall again. As for transparency, you can see here on how to do it. Hope this helps! 21:38, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Erm...i use Plxir...not gimp....anyway Reuploaded Maplepool 21:57, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, darken the shading under the chin, blur the shading-- 02:24, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

If you need to, I can make the background transparent for you (I have GIMP). 03:06, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:46, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ok,Fallingsnow,i'll make the changes,then make the backgound transparent pls^^ Maplepool 22:27, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded Ok,Fallingsnow,if you will make thae back ground transparent now pls Maplepool 22:48, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten/smooth the shading and smooth out the highlights. 00:11, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like the two ear pinks are different colors. It maybe just my computer though. 14:27, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Erm whitestrom,I think,when I looked at the picture,she had shading on the right side of Birchkit/fall,so the right ear-pink,will be 2 diff colors....Spotteddapple 15:21, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there's a lump on her chest; blur that out. And thicken the shading, cause now there's only a very thin outline of shading. 13:19, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I made the background transparent. Oh by the way, my username isn't Fallingsnow- it's Blackclaw09 (or Rainwhisker). I just made my sig to say Fallingsnow for the holidays. 21:32, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

If this is withdrawn/declined I could take over (XD I'm trying to take over a lot of chararts right now). Mistfire Owl City! 21:52, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok,i shall get to work,Blackclaw,my mistake,Mistfire,Are you trying to get rid of me? wha ;_; lol,just kidding,if it is,or if i can not work on this,you may take over,but for the time being,im working on this.Maplepool 01:08, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  comments? Maplepool 01:22, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not trying to get rid of you, it's just that I am epically, weirdly bored if I don't have some kind of quest on PCA. And maybe lighten the edge shading. Mistfire Owl City! 01:53, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

The background still isn't transparent, the right earpink and nose need to be lighter, and the shading around his sides to be lightened or blurred very profusely into the pelt. 01:56, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ok its not showing the changes,so i request you not to comment till the chages show and once they do comments? Maplepool 05:57, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * facepalm* of for the love of god,i forgot to downlod the one blackclaw uploaded god*mutters* ok,imm see if i can hunt the one blackclaw uploaded down,and mae the edits on that one,gimme some time...Maplepool 05:45, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

There is something going on with his chest....add more highlights to it or blur it out.... Snowbreeze 17:14, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the shading at the tips of his fur and smooth out the entire thing. Lighten the shading and have it extend further toward his legs. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:45, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded comments? Maplepool 01:55, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading, define the ear pink, darken the shading under the chin and inbetween the forearms, I don't see a light source-- 02:23, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

REuploaded comments?Maplepool 04:34, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading in the red areas, get rid of the shading in the yellow areas. Make sure there is no blurred line art anywhere. This is what I meant by thickening the shading.-- 17:27, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, imma be taking a break for a while so i wont be on till January, im declining this and mistfire offered to take over, im takiing her up on her offer, she will continue this is she wants to im very sorry. 72.181.116.189 15:58, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry that was me.Maplepool 16:00, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mistfire is working on Blackstar, so unless she wants to withdraw that one to work on this one, someone else can take over. 00:00, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'd love to take over! I've proven to be hopeless with Blackstar anyways, so I can take this one! ℳerry spirit 22:16, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I'll do the shading later, I might be somewhere where there's wireless internet tomorrow. What do you think? 01:24, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, Mistfire. ;) Make sure to blur the shading on the right side, though. -- 02:57, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading in the areas I specified on the diagram and blur the shading-- 19:06, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit. Great job by the way! 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. ℳĨ₰₮ ₣ĨȒ€ Happy New  Year!  23:18, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pinks match and blur the shading. 23:24, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Either darken the shading a little or brighten the highlights a little. 00:08, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Brightened highlights, fixed earpink, and blurred shading. ℳĨ₰₮ ₣ĨȒ€ Happy New Year!  16:29, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink dark, or just less fushia. 06:02, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reupoaded. Darkened earpink. ℳĨ₰₮ ₣ĨȒ€ Happy New Year!  16:12, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Wow. Wow. Sorry. XD It just looks so good! 8) Darken the shading on the tail and make the transitioning more smoother. Also, darken the far right paw. :) -- 14:36, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

This looks good. :) One thing though; is the nose colored in? If it is, darken it. 18:42, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading -- 00:32, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight. 01:33, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. 'Blurred shading/highlights, darkened shading, and darkened nosepink. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 17:50, January 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Darken the chest shading 17:55, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded.  Mist fire I'd like fries with that 18:16, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing; it's too pale. Darken the shading and make the nose colour dark gray-- 19:57, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed nose, darkened image, and thickened shading. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 01:33, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

This looks amazing, Mistfire! Just blur the shading near his chest a little. :) 15:43, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. 'Blurred shading. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 15:53, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing. Darken the shading-- 19:56, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. 'Darkened image/shading. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 01:52, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest and the tail. 02:06, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make them more even. 00:48, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed earpink and blurred tail shading. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 03:08, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the tail shading a bit. Looks great! 03:01, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Lightened tail shading. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 14:43, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading, mostly the part closest to the leg. 15:31, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. 'Blurred tail shading. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 16:31, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the back leg (the one that is visible) needs to be darkened. Looks great though! 21:04, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened back leg. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 00:04, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval?-- night  shine  ❄ 02:18, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the front legs and the back of the tail (near the legs) a bit more. 21:12, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I honestly thnk that the shading looks fine, but I blurred it a little, if that's what you want. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 01:16, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great! Just burn the muzzle a tiny bit (on about 10-20%) or til it matches the rest of the highlights. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:18, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Burned muzzle. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 23:20, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) - For Approval


Either lighten the shading on the back or get rid of the highlight next to it by darkening it. Then blur thoroughly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sunspirit, are you still working on this?-- 07:22, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Define the highlight on the flank. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 21:09, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the ear pink 00:06, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are a bit too bright. Maybe shade them a bit.<font color="Black"><font color="Black"> <font color="Orange">Wolfwhisker  <font color="Black">Trick <font color="Orange"> or <font color="Black"> Treat   01:02, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble, are you still working on this?-- 02:33, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think since Bramble has retired, someone will have to take over. Could I continue working on this, if someone else hasn't already taken it? 00:29, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Blackclaw, I have Tawnypelt (Alt.Ki) up for approval, and it's on CBA, and I planned to take over this because I've made all the changes for Plumwillow's apprentice image. You are free to take it, but...well, I worked really hard on the changes I made to her image, and I really wanted to take over it. There are a couple other images that need taking over as well, but if you would like to continue working on this, I don't mind. You asked first, after all. :) It's up to you. -- 01:17, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Since you have worked on this image before, I think you should take it instead. I'll just find something else to do. 21:26, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Blackclaw! :) It's a privilege to take over this image. I'll get to it and upload my version as soon as Tawnykit gets approved. -- 22:20, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Yay, Tawnykit's approved! I've uploaded my new version. :) Comments? -- 20:12, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur haunch highlights a little, otherwise it looks great :) ❋   Rainwhisper   ❋  21:16, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Rainy! :) -- 21:29, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink and make it more triangular, make the haunch highlight a bit bigger and blur it-- 02:23, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Hope that looks better! :) -- 20:24, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink more, blur the haunch highlight around the edges-- 23:02, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

You did a great job taking over the image! Blur the haunch highlight. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:48, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Aw, thank you, Sunny. ^_^ -- 21:22, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight. 01:14, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. =) -- 02:09, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more visible. 14:28, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look quite messy. I'd re-do them. 15:02, December 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well...re-do the bottom one at least. All you need to do with the top is brighten it. 15:28, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I brightened the top highlight. Moonflight, what do you mean by "messy"? Like, is it blurred too much, or too big, or simply out of place? It looks fine to me. Please tell me! :) -- 19:55, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlight on the head needs to be brightened just a little more, so it matches the haunch and shoulder highlights. It looks great though! 22:44, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Blackclaw. :) -- 03:03, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

The shoulder and haunch highlights are very bright. darken them. Mistfire Owl City! 16:26, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. =) -- 20:46, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

There's a spot on the haunch where the shading is lighter, try and fix that if you know where it is :) 21:14, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights a bit more consistent. 22:44, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. :) -- 12:10, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight a little more, but otherwise it looks amazing :) 15:41, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Is that any better? :3 -- 03:04, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, move it up, and make it bigger. Lighten the ear pink-- 19:03, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I'm not sure if it showed the changes... -- 19:33, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the haunch and lighten it. <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  12:19, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I apologize if there doesn't appear to be any change. :) If I blur it too much, then it will "cut away" at the highlight, and that makes me darken the highlights and brighten the highlights and darken...etc. I tried to blur it as little as possible, once again, I'm sorry if the changes don't seem to be there. ;) -- 17:56, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Center the highlights and blur them. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

You use Pixlr, I assume? What I would do is re-do them entirely. When you take the dodge tool, you can obviously change the brush. Chose a circle brush that sort of fades out at the edges. Then change the size to somewhere between 50 and 70 and dodge. It then only requires a little blurring. If you use Photoshop, go to Pixlr. From my expirience, Photoshop makes my Chararts turn out horrendous. If you use GIMP, I really have no idea what happend here. 0_o 01:14, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I do use Pixlr. What you say is intelligent and worth trying. :) I think redoing the highlights is crucial at this point. XD I'll get right on it. :) -- 13:05, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I completely redid the haunch highlight. I personally think it turned out much cleaner and brighter than before. :) -- 18:34, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it did. :) Except there's a darker patch on it, so make it all like the same... color? Or maybe just tries to blur it more. Anyway, it looks great! :) 18:40, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I just lightened it and blurred it in. Thanks, Rainy. ^_^ -- 19:34, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darkened the ear pink or make it more noticeable. And the haunch still kinda looks the same.XD There's just one spot n it that is darker then the rest, so I guess try and blur it again, or maybe smudge it. :) 21:28, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks for the awesome tips, Raineh. :) I'm positive I got the dark spot now. If anything still needs work, tell me. =) -- 20:23, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, the spot is gone. Just maybe blur the haunch highlight a little more to make it a little smoother. :) 20:29, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Hopefully the changes showed; if not I can always re-upload it again. :) Anything else? -- 20:42, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 01:30, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I personally think the earpink looks worse now. :P Tell me to re-upload it to the previous version if you agree. :) -- 15:27, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you. You don't need to upload the old one though, just put a lighter shade of earpink over top-- 19:50, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

The only thing that I think needs to be done (besides the earpink) is to blur the haunch highlight again. XD 21:05, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I fixed the earpink, and I. Blurred. The haunch. -_- -- 21:25, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah..fix it please. :3 20:01, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Fix what? I already fixed the earpink and blurred the haunch. I'm not sure what you mean. XD -- 21:58, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the ear pink, darken the highlights and blur them, -- 01:48, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. -- 02:42, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger and blur them. They almost look like spots. Otherwise, great image! 22:27, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Yeah, Nightflower, they almost do. XD Hopefully I fixed it. :) Brightened highlights and blurred them thoroughly. And thanks. ^_^ -- 22:49, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights and blur them-- 04:19, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I've already brightened the highlights and blurred them, and they look fine to me. I've darkened the highlights, brightened the highlights, and if you ask me to darken them again, I think that's useless because some other user's going to come along eventually telling me to brighten them - again. :P Besides, they look good to me. -- 20:01, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Move the haunch and the shoulder highlights up a tad and brighten the earpink a lil' bit too =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:03, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. =) -- 16:04, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

The highlite is too bright. Blur it or darken it. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 18:28, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. -- 00:09, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Move the highlights up a bit more and brighten the earpink a bit more. Blur the shading/highlights. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:58, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Also, make the highlights a tad bigger. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. -- 17:53, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights on the shoulder and haunch should be blurred just a bit more, and the head hightlight should be brightened to match the other highlights I mentioned. It looks great though! 20:59, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Aw, thanks Blackclaw! ^_^ -- 02:07, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bottom of the hanch highlight. 01:20, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a lot. - night  shine  ❄ 02:17, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. -- 02:54, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit, and make them a tad bigger. 06:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights' shade and size are fine right now, thanks. I've been darkening them and brightening them, and I think right now, they're good. Also, if I keep blurring them, they either get smaller or larger, and I think I like the size and shape right now. Hope you understand. :) Not concerning the highlights, are there any other comments? -- 21:11, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Midnite, But I really think the highlights are much too bright. It's nearly white. Either that or you need to blur massively. 04:14, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Also, jw, where's your light source coming from? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:20, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Alright, Frostheart, as you wish. XD @Wildheart, my light source is coming from the upper left hand corner, since the top of the muzzle, the haunch, the shoulder, the tail, and a little bit of the middle of the front legs are highlighted. ;) Please, everyone, it's really tiring brightening the highlights and darkening them but not really doing anything else, and they really do look fine to me now, so, not concerning the brightness of the highlights, is there anything else that should be done? :3 -- 21:42, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Mosspelt (Alt. Q) - For Approval
Comments? ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  18:20, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent work! =) Blur the shading on the back, blur the ear pink a bit more and extend it higher to the tip of the ear, and make her a bit more golden-brown; refer to Brackenfur, for example, if you need help. She looks somewhere between cream and orange right now. -- 20:04, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  21:19, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 21:26, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think it looks any better :/. ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  21:38, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back a lot and make the highlights a little brighter, mostly on the face. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 21:43, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink so it isn't such a bright colour. 21:54, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  22:14, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. 00:18, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit and blur it. -- 00:20, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I had to redo the shading and highlights ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  00:45, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, and maybe make it a little less fushia. 03:27, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the back and belly look like stripes. Lighten and blur well. 09:20, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded There! It looks WAY better! ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  18:19, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back and on the tail. :) Also, blur the shading on the front paw. - 20:36, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :D B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  22:34, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, and change the eye colour; it's a little too aqua to be normal. 05:21, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot and darken the ear pink. -- 07:05, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:34, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish. I don't see a light source in this; thicken the shading.-- 04:25, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better now? B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:14, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think you are trying to make the light source come from the left. Darken the shading in the areas I marked with red. Make the ear pink look similar to that colour.-- 21:09, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Night shine, can you give me the hex code for the earpink colour? I'm having a hard time trying to find something similar. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:09, December 6, 2010 (UTC)<-- Never mind that. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:21, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :)? B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:20, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more around the neck and belly. Blur thee ear pink a bit more-- 00:18, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur everything overall, it might be just me, but everything looks quote blotchy. 02:21, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, it was just my brain tricking me. :3 15:30, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  18:42, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks quite blotchy to me. Perhaps darkening it could fix it. 22:45, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading and highlights. It was blotchy because I edited it a lot :/ B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  23:34, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot. Center the ear pink. -- 02:27, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I carefully smudged the different blues in the eyes together for effect. This is NEVER gonna be approved .-. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  03:18, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose color a darker shade of gold. And Blizzardfur, be patient, some chararts take way longer--two months to be approved. 05:07, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot in the areas I designated in the redline above -- 05:16, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded This has better work... B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  16:15, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, mostly on the shoulder. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:36, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

It stills needs to be blurred a lot more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  23:48, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I would darken the shading first. Then blur it, like Rainwhisper said. 00:51, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink lighter, it looks sorta burnt orange right now; the colour Nightshine originally gave you was good. 05:15, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I was blurring for half an hour -.- (I HATE the blur tool). My head is telling me to withdraw this... <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 01:56, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

The back shading is slightly inconsistent. Make it more smooth. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened it then did it again. Maybe I won't withdraw this after all! <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:16, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and make it much smoother. 20:40, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded O_o... <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:20, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, it looks the same. Be right back while I fix this. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:21, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind. It's fine. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:26, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur everything thoroughly. 01:55, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did you want me to blur the lineart too? Just kidding ;) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:16, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the shading and darken the haunch highlight some-- 22:59, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Woooooooo, that REALLY helped... Blur tool makes things worse in my opinion. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 23:27, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

You should probably smudge it-- 23:38, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 00:17, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken to haunch highlight and make it not touch the line-art. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:57, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Does that look better? <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:34, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the belly shading more still and make it look more circular, not following the lines of her back, belly, and legs. 20:27, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 20:55, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and add one to the shoulder. 01:12, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wow, what an epic fail xD <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 15:36, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight and shading, darken the highlights, darken the neck shading.-- 07:31, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 15:50, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, it looks sorta blotchy. Mistfire Owl City! 21:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:15, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is still really blotchy and is a little dark on her back. Add more shading on her tail too. 21:12, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20 days since I have been working on this 0_0 <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 02:52, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken the highlights if you cannot blur them anymore. 05:01, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 19:39, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Move the belly highlight up, blur the shading throughly, make the ear pink smaller-- 17:36, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded In the file history, the latest uploader of the image is MarigoldPetalmarble. Sorry about that, that's my Toontown Wikia username (I forgot to log off of it and sign in to Moonleaf:)!) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:16, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Move the belly highlight up, blur all the shading a lot-- 18:19, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm feeling that I have to give up and withdraw this. But it's not confirmed yet. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:07, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the large highlight on her side and maybe dull it a tad so it doesn't stand out so much. Don't give up yet, you're nearly there! <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:12, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on her belly and chest and also get rid of the shading on the tip of her tail. 03:20, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 21:21, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Night shine, I was on vacation for a week and came back home pretty late. I'm gonna work on it right now. ♪Mari gold♪  18:01, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Crap, I'm on MarigoldPetalmarble. It's just me, Moonleaf. I'll go on Moonleaf:) ♪Mari  gold♪  18:02, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:22, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on her belly. 00:28, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any much of a difference? <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 17:31, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think so. Maybe darken the belly shading a bit. That might make it look better. 02:43, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm gonna change my siggy, be right back ;) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 01:51, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

The stomach shading looks really blotchy. Perhaps you should blur it a tad more. :) -- 14:32, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Have to do research now for school for a report... ._. 20:59, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the belly shading and blur it-- 00:31, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:30, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the belly and haunch highlight, and blur the ear pink. 01:28, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the belly shading and blur it a lot-- 19:49, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded When you mean by "thicken the belly shading", do you mean by making it bigger or making it darker, Nightshine? 20:56, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

The belly shading needs to be lightened and blurred- you might even have to re-do it. Blur the tail shading also. 21:08, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I gotta admit, it looks better redone. 01:57, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Darken the shading. 03:23, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:49, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Just darken the shading a tad more and blur it. Looks great, though! 18:48, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:21, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, darken it, and blur it. Move the ear pink up and lighten it a bit. -- 01:47, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 01:54, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

The belly-shading is kinda in a square-shape. Try your best to round/smooth it out. Oh, and blur the shading. 02:10, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to fix the belly highlight but it looked messy so I was like "Forget it" 18:12, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, add shading to the back and face, -- 04:18, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:38, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Where's your light source coming from? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:54, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea, really O_o 20:23, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

You should find one. Whether it is from the front, side, or back. It needs to make sense. :P 00:14, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

I tweaked it a little so Reuploaded. And I'm assuming it's from the left side. 02:36, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

If your light is coming from the left, then you should probably change the highlights/shading a bit. Look at that picture with the red shading that Nightshine put up when Blizzardfur was still doing it. It will help a lot. =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:06, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Um... Wildheart... Blizzardfur was ME 18:43, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Neck shading = UBER FAIL! 23:19, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

LOL. **facepalm** I just saw the siggie change and assumed... ahahahah sorry Moonleaf. But yeah still use that pic. It will heeeelpp =D haha --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:04, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights. Marluxia; The Graceful Assassin  19:15, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:37, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading-- night  shine  ❄ 02:13, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 01:04, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Wetfoot (A) - For Approval
Okay, here he is. He's kinda bad right now, so comment fiercely! I shall improve him! 03:22, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten and define his stripes, so they look more like the warrior image's. 03:26, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit. I really like the stripes =) Lighten the shading, it's a little dark looking, but also thicken the shading-- 03:29, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

There is some blurred line-art on the chest. 03:31, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the eaar-pink BUT lighten it,and as Ice heart said ligthen the stripes then define them and fix the blurred on the chest other than that nice ^^ IMPROVE HIM FRECRELY THEN!!!!! Maplepool 03:53, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink doesn't need lightening. 05:08, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

At least blur the stripes; to me they look wispy, not like tabby stripes. I actually think the ear pink should be darkened a bit, only a bit mind you. And the shading looks like of ... pressed and flat for the want of better words. It doesn't give me a 3-D effect. Sorry if that's too unhelpful! 13:54, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Minor tweaks have been made. I didn't have time for everything. Will work on it later, but it's midnight here. Comments? 08:03, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded (again) Better? 01:49, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

The line art looks kind of blurred along the forearms. Thicken the shading-- 02:06, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Howzat? 23:16, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights, thicken and darken the shading, and define the stripes on the chest. 01:51, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? 05:55, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Something about the tabby stripes looks a bit..odd..They look sort of smashed and around them, it's kind of blotchy. Maybe blur everything a lot, then define the stripes, especially on the belly and legs. :3 15:29, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Lol what do you mean, smashed? I think they look fine. 03:47, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, on the back and haunch it's fine. But the face stripes, the belly stripes, and the leg stripes..look. 'smashed'. XD Too blurred and smooshed together. 15:05, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading/brighten the highlights. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't been so quick to update him, but I assure you, I'm still here. I've just been really busy. Will work on him soon. 03:14, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes don't look the same as his other image's. They're too blurry. 22:17, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that really matters. I mean, look at Jayfeather's page. It's really different. But, It's up to you. Darken the earpink. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 09:02, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how Jayfeather's images are involved in this. They're supposed to be consistent. The stripes are too blurry, either way. 00:13, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think Sunspirit meant that Jayfeather's images are all very different. Every artist has their own style. However, you do have a point. If y'all make a consensus, I will redo this image to make it look more like the original one. Personally, I like my interpretation better, though. 06:05, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the face stripes a bit, thicken the tail stripes a bit. Darken the neck and belly shading-- 23:55, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should make him look more like his warrior picture. Consistency is important. 01:10, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well yeah, and I meant it doesn't matter if his look different because this sin't Jayfeather and what Jaufeather's images look like shouldn't even matter. And anyways, you should just change it for consistency because even if you do like yours better it doesn't look like the other one and why change that one when we change the one up for approval? 06:10, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, consistency is important. We don't need to fix images that don't need to be fixed in tweak week. 15:34, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

It might be just me, but the whole line-art seems to be blurred. Though that might just be the shading... 21:46, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Redoing image. 05:40, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 21:20, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm really really sorry, but I've been busy for so long and I just got back from a long trip to Victoria. My redone image is almost ready to be put up but it needs some more work. Please don't decline, as I am working on it, but I have had little time to do so. - -  Wildheart  W h a t i s r i g h t n o w ? 07:07, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here goes. Comments? - -  Wildheart  W h a t i s r i g h t n o w ? 03:20, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Much better! Add more stripes on the upper back and chest. There is some blurred line-art on the chest, too. Darken the shading on the chest and legs. 03:37, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better still? =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:03, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

You bet, it's awesome. :) Darken the shading on the back and the haunch just a tad. -- 14:31, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, Midnite. =) Redid it sort of. I didn't like the highlights. I still need to blur them a bit though. Of course, I didn't realize this until I uploaded it... feel free to remind me. I'll probably forget. --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 07:16, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great! Darken the shading some and lighten the ear pink a bit-- 00:30, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great! The tabby stripes are very nicely done. The only thing I see is that the highlight on the head should be lightened a tad to match the haunch and shoulder highlights. 18:26, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the nice comments, Nightshine and Blackclaw! Critique for moi? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 01:10, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Just add a highlight (or brighten the highlight) on the tail. :) Looks fantastic! :D -- 01:23, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded LOL TOTALLY forgot about the tail highlight! Didn't even cross my mind XD --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 01:36, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading-- 04:18, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:12, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Brighten/define the ear pink. 03:18, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, Speshul K! --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:31, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

0.0 Amazing! Blur the shading around the haunch just a tad. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? Loudsplash100000 21:17, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, Nighty! And yes, as you can see, I am working on this :) I was just temporarily held up.

Comments? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:18, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit more larger 06:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 20:59, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Comments? XD --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:41, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

It's only been one day :P define tail stripes. 04:13, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded haha it wasn't even a day (for me) I just have a bit of a superstition... don't mind me. I don't know if I need to darken the tail stripes even more... Comments? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:50, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 00:00, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s.  02:02, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Cinderheart (Alt. KI) - For approval


My first charart! I spent a ton of time on it ^^". Cinderheart's alternate kit form -- she was described in Sunset as 'looking exactly like Cinderpelt (dark fluffy gray)' instead of gray tabby. Comments?  Maple   frost!   19:40, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 20:57, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the nose; gray cats usually don't have pink noses, and rename it Cinderheart.kit.alt 21:03, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add some highlights to the tail. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:11, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Move the highlight to the chest and add highlights to the fronts of the legs. Mistfire Owl City! 21:39, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. What now? :)  Maple   frost!   00:05, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights a little more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  00:06, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

* coughs* Rename it Cinderheart.kit.alt, please. 01:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

* Facepaw* Sorry... I was being an idiot xD. I named it Cinderheart.alt.kit... ugh... Sorry, I'll rename it when I re-upload it (in a few minutes when I finish editing)  Maple   frost!   01:53, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! (/Is very glad she re-read her post before clicking save page. That would've been an embarrassing typo.)  Maple   frost!   02:00, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

There is an extra period after alt. You just need to name it Cinderheart.kit.alt, it will add the .png to the end on its own. Sorry for the lack of image-related comments, I will once you name it correctly ^_^ 03:33, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Uggghhh xD sorry... you have permission to cyber-punch me. I know, I'm exasperating. It's part of my internet charm ^_^ (NOT). Okay... it's named right, now. I think... xD. Maple  frost!   05:20, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Change the nose color to a darker gray. 17:15, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading thoroughly. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:39, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Maple  frost!   19:32, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look... mismatched and blotchy. Can you try and fix that? ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:43, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks crooked. -- 20:44, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple  frost!   23:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading thoroughly. 23:26, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Are they too strong or something? I keep getting told to do that... they're as blurred as they possibly can be, so are they just too strong? Maple  frost!   23:34, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The nose is still a bit pink. And no, they're not too strong. You need to blur them, they're too blotchy. 04:01, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Should I make the nose completely black/very very dark gray? Or just darken the current pinkish-gray nose? Maple  frost!   05:05, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose colour a dark gray -- 00:12, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I fixed the nose and splotchiness. It doesn't look splotchy anymore ^^", thank goodness. I'm sick of the Blur tool. xD  Maple   frost!   17:53, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks really blotchy to me. 21:24, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Me, too. There are scraps of shading and highlights everywhere, and looks a bit disorganized. Also, blur the tail shading a tad. -- 21:26, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is that better? Maple  frost!   21:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Now it looks how it did before XD Blur it mostly on the chest area, but on the legs and the tail too. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  22:07, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Would you want some help with the blotchiness? 04:41, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

-Sigh-... Whenever there's blotchiness, there's something I like to do called... REDOING THE SHADING AND HIGHLIGHTS. I just fill 'em in again and redo the shading and highlights and hope it works. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  04:03, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

If they redo the shading and highlights, it may make it more blotchy, with the Pixlr blurring. 05:05, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

The earpinks should be a bit more consistent. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

I completely restarted--been working on this nonstop. :D I think I got it fixed. Comments? *Crosses fingers* Oh, and please give me little details, too--like, say, the eyes are a bit to greeny-blue, etc. Don't be afraid to point something like that out--I want you to. I'm trying to become a great Charart member :).  Maple   frost!   06:28, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Much better, Maplefrost. :] Make the nose lighter and blur the ear-pink more. 01:53, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll go work on it now :). P.S.--Has nothing to do with this, but... can ANYONE tell me what happened to Bramble and why Oblivion's now leader? It's like one day I logged on and Bramble was listed as leader, then suddenly Oblivion... and I can't find anything about it. I checked PCA news, tried the (confusing) forums, and even poked around on Bramble's profile... nothing. On his/her (I think last I read Bramble's a her xD) profile it still says 'I'm the leader of Project Charart, yada yada yada".  Maple   frost!   03:45, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Read the discussion on "New Leadership" in the discussion area. :3 03:50, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I read it :) congratz on being new Dep. Humm... does that look any better? Note: For some odd reason every time I clicked 'overwrite existing photo with yours' ('cause I have to name it Cinderheart.kit.alt), it would say 'success!' and I'd click 'return to editing', yet it would look exactly the same... I tried to get it to work about ten times, to no avail. So now I'm just crossing my fingers that it'll show the 'right' new one.  Maple   frost!   04:25, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken the shading-- 22:58, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten highlights. This is quite good =3 ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 09:30, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Great job, Maplefrost. 8) The ear pink should be even on both ears. :) -- 21:13, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Is that better? I think the ear pink's a bit too faint now... am I right? Comments? ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  22:00, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you're right XD so brighten it up a little. 03:30, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

xD Is that better? (Reuploaded) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  17:06, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Whoa! Nice sig, Maplefrost. This is really good, just make the nose a lighter gray. Mistfire Owl City! 17:13, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and thanks! :) Thanks also for giving me the link to Oblivion's Sig tutorial, back when I was a WWiki noooob... Heh, I'll go change the nose color now. :) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  17:44, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

How's that? (Reuploaded) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  04:03, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

There's a single circle of highlights on her chest. Blur and smooth it out. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 15:27, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and brighten the highlights, and I can hardly see the ear pink. 19:07, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dodge the face a tad more. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Working on it! Just making sure you don't think I've abandoned it ;) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  19:32, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Just darken the shading a little on the paws, unless the light is coming from the front. It seems to be coming from the top. Otherwise, it's FANTABULOUS! Butterfly } { Song!  00:25, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail and brighten the highlight there. Try making the transition smoother. =) -- 14:29, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 19:48, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

If it is declined, might I work on it? I'm horrbily bored now that I have no charart to do Maplepool 04:08, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes you can work on this now-- 04:17, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

What? No! I'm right here! I'm reuploading now! One sec. It's still mine. I never resigned... ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  21:33, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... how's this? I think I fixed the ears. I still need to work on the paws, which I'll do on my next upload, but I kind of rushed this one... I don't want this to be taken away from me :/ I never withdrew it. It's just... been the holidays. I couldn't be on 24/7. I'm back, though. This is my first charart; please don't take it away from me. Anyway... reuploaded, comments please. ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  21:57, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Maplefrost, this is wonderful! Just blur the shading at the base of the tail a little. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 18:33, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit more consistent. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thank ye ^^. Okay, I fixed the tail and paws, but I haven't reuploaded it because... well, what exactly do you mean by consistent? Heh, please don't laugh... just need to make sure before I mess it up more. ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  20:41, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Consistent means to make them the same. The right (our right) earpink seems a little brighter than the left and they are not in the same shape. 21:33, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

And while you're at it, brighten it a bit more =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:46, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sunstar (Alt. L) ~ For Approval
- My First charart in awhile. Haven't seen me around much, have you? ;) I'm pretty proud of this one. I need to blur the ear-pink, I think... By the way... This is my first leader! ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 05:54, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate it a bit, make the ear pink fill up the whole area and blur it. Brighten the highlights some and blur the shading around the neck-- 06:02, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I'm worried about the highlights... are they too... unnatural? ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 06:30, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Blur the highlights a bit, and/or make them bigger. Also, the ear pink looks very non-existent. Take the ear pink color from Sunstar's alternate deputy image. 06:47, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Nightflower =) It's nice to get a compliment once in awhile =3. The highlights in this picture are really bugging me -_- ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 10:06, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable and blur the strip of shading on the leg that is second closest to us. 15:27, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his right foreleg. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 22:03, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Darkened ear pink and blurred strip. II'll get on to blurring the right-foreleg shading. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 22:22, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink more, get rid of the white pixel on the ear tip, make the highlights on the chest and haunch bigger-- 22:53, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I made 2. I don't see much difference, between the pelt color. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 03:57, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

I like the right one, but make the ear pink more noticeable and blur the highlights on the tail. 21:03, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

I agree the right one is better. Darken the ear pink, darken the nose colour a bit, darken the haunch highlight a bit and blur it, darken the shading-- 22:12, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

The right one. Make the background completely transparent. 22:13, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Right one. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:20, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... Maybe desaturate the whole image and make the highlights less bright. Mistfire Owl City! 21:59, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined- 17:49, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

You know what, this won't give me any NW spoilers and I've got nothing else to do, so I'll work on this if it's gonna be declined. 00:13, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dovesong, you can take over now if you'd like. Just add it to the reservations table-- 21:18, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Okay! Will get on fixing this up ASAP :3 21:31, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm. . . sorry if I take a while :P 21:47, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

It has been a week, please work on this or it will be declined-- 19:32, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Mossy has informed me that she doesn't want to work on this anymore. Anyone can take over as long as you are not working on something else. 19:59, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'll do it! Echostar229 00:06, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I desaturated it, but I have a strong feeling that his color is too dull now. :S Echostar229 00:25, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it's too dull. Look up at the comments that were posted after it was last reuploaded to see what needs to be worked on if you haven't already done so. 02:08, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the highlights, define the ear pink -- 01:44, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Turns out, there wasn't any earpink on it at all! Echostar229 01:44, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing its WAY too dark, make the highlight more noticeable, lighten the earpink, and add the white pixle next to the pupil Maplepool 02:46, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Take the colours from his alternate deputy image-- 04:17, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I redid him, using the colors from his Deputy image.. Comments? Echostar229 20:41, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the chest higlight and the shading under the chin, blur the tail shading some more. Darken the nose colour-- night  shine  ❄ 21:15, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Looks a lot better. There's a...line that runs from the chest highlight to the haunch. Blur that please. Also, the shading between the forelegs needs to be blurred near the top. Nice work, Echostar. 21:48, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. My blur tool is on 100%, but it isn't very strong. Echostar229 03:25, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe redo the highlights, and use a fuzzy brush. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 01:58, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the bottom of the haunch to match the tail shading. I can help with the blurring if you absolutely need it. =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 20:52, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Can you? That would be great! Reuploaded. Echostar229 21:20, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay =) I'll work on it. --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:39, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred it. Blurred it a LOT. =) Hope this helped you. I also fixed some blurred lineart you had. --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:57, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

De-saturate the shading under the chin, add a tad of shading to the tips of the fur on the left, and move the chest highlight up from the front legs a tad. Nice work! <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 22:38, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Also add a line of shading on the right side of either leg and a small line of pale highlights on the left side of either leg. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:10, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Berrynose (alt. kit) - For Approval
Berrykit without his tail. Comments? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  11:41, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the tail look more natural-perhaps make the cuts less straight. 15:28, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger, and darken the shading on the left side (our left). 18:09, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pinkish. Look at Berrynose's chararts for reference. Anyways, nice job! <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:27, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

On his warrior charart the tail isn't all zig-zaggy, and it looks a little odd that way anyway. Looks nice, though! ;) 23:56, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading between the front legs. 00:26, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The tail looks a bit funny XD <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  12:15, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Try to copy the tail design from his apprentice image. 15:51, December 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. It looks fine. 15:55, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

There is some gray spots outside of his tail, erase those. 18:43, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the tail a little fluffier looking. Right now it's just a stub-- 19:09, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'd add a small pink scar at the tip of his tail, as his wound would've been pretty recent. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:08, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The tail doesn't look funny. It looks better. I'm so happy =D <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  15:17, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading below the chin; on the neck. 21:07, December 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * That area of shading isn't required. 23:39, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it matters that it's not required, it would look good and is easy to add, it's not like asking to add in highlights or anything. 05:21, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Comments? <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  12:08, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading under the neck and darken it a bit.-- 16:03, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. 05:50, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  08:44, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Good job. :) The tail must've been hard to do. XD Anyways, there are scraps of shading under the chin, as well as on the tail. They look really blotchy. Could you try blurring them in or completely redoing them? :3 -- 14:17, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken or brighten the earpink a tad. :) 21:12, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 04:15, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Nightshine--can I take over? 02:53, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I didnt had a pc so I can`t work on it. I`ll work tomorrow on it (sorry vor my bad spelling) <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  18:46, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Comments? <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  19:25, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading in the chest area a LOT, smudge it a bit if you want. 20:51, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading-- night  shine  ❄ 02:09, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest a bit more and on the face it looks as if there's a stripes of darker shading running through it. Maybe try to take that out? 21:29, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Is it better? <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  09:04, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit. 18:12, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and move the chest highlight up. Right now it looks like it's on his legs XD --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:26, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
22:55, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dull the ear-pink and darken the shading a tad. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:15, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. 23:22, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the stripes, maybe change the color so they are like his alternate apprentice image. Darken the ear pink a lot. Brighten the highlights and make the shoulder and haunch ones bigger-- 23:44, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 01:13, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Move the shoulder highlight up a bit and make the stripes on his face more noticeable. 01:14, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller,but when was he seen as an golden tabby warrior? 71.164.203.114 01:45, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. 21:38, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and define the stripes. Darken the ear pink/make it like the ear pink on his alternate apprentice image. Make the haunch highlight bigger and blur it- 02:14, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 01:33, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the shoulder highlight, darken the ear pink, darken the belly and neck shading-- 03:05, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are very. . . orange. . . now. I think you should make them more goldeny. Also, brighten and blur the highlights, and add stripes to the far legs. 04:20, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 16:26, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the legs farthest from us and the ear behind us. Blur the shoulder highlight. 16:42, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 16:45, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading. There are some dark brown areas that should be blurred/taken away. Desaturate the ear pink and darken it, darken the stripes-- 17:34, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

The shading does not need to be darkened, but it does need to be blurred. The stripes are fine, too. 19:51, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

smooth the shading on the back flank and behind the ear and at the base of the tail. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:14, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

The shading does need to be darkened; around the base of the tail, the neck, the belly, and at the back of the haunch- 20:20, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think the orange tabby stripes look a bit weird against his golden pelt. They show out a lot. Or is it just me? Nightfern Merry Christmas 02:48, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightfern, I think the colours should look more like the ones from his alternate apprentice image since that is also a golden tabby-- 18:49, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Try taking the tabby stripe color from his alternate apprentice image. Also, there is a dark spot on the back of his neck. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe move the shoulder highlight up or lighten the shading on the upper part of his neck, it kind of looks like he has an elongated neck. 00:50, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Oblivion? 19:21, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Mmm yes, sorry Moonflight. I haven't gotten around to it recently. I'll start working on it. 00:18, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic, Oblivion. :) Perhaps the shading could be darker on the tail and blurred a little to make a smooth transitioning? :3 -- 14:08, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, sorry I've been so inactive lately. I'm going to withdraw this since I can't really find the time, and - let's face it - the effort. Anyone who isn't working on something can take this over. 01:49, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid the image. 04:20, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink. 04:36, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic, Frostheart! Maybe you can add some tabby stripes on the head; it looks very abrupt. 04:45, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great! Just blur the shading a little. :) 15:18, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 16:22, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink, darken the shading, blur the stripes, lighten the stripes, get rid of all the small dots as there aren't any on his alternate apprentice image. -- 20:07, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:46, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink, make it smaller, add a few stripes to his forehead. Darken the neck and midriff shading-- 02:49, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 15:40, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the face stripes and make them a bit bigger. Trim off some of the ear pink from the left side. Darken the face/neck shading-- 01:17, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:23, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Add one or two more stripes onto his haunch, darken the forehead stripes and make them bigger, darken the face shading. Make the ear pink smaller-- 01:42, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I think that it looks worse now, kinda. I might revert it back to the other one. 15:47, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder highlight more. 23:37, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't add highlights. 23:55, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller, darken the neck shading-- 04:15, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I think the ear-pink is fine now, and I won't darken the neck shading. 04:30, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Why not? I can't really see any neck shading. The ear pink looks off center to me. If you could just trim off some of the left side of it-- 07:04, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean the muzzle or the actual neck? If so the real neck, it is there and the same opacity as everywhere else. If it is for the muzzle, I never added shading to my muzzle and I don't intend to do it on this one. I think the ear-pink is fine. If I 'trim' it anymore (with a one pixel brush) it becomes tiny. 15:37, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder SHADING. >.> 00:23, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. :3 00:31, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

He has, like... a pale gray ring around him. Get rid of that. 00:40, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like the shading ends suddenly at the head. Can you add some head shading? Other than that, I love this style of tabby :D 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 15:28, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Define the face stripes, sharpen the left side of the ear pink some, darken the neck shading-- night  shine  ❄ 02:11, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:07, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Amazing job, Frostheart! ;D The muzzle looks a little bare. Could either a stripe be added or the shading/highlights added there? :3 -- 03:04, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great Frostheart! There is a strip of light-ness on the back of the tail, shade that in. 06:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

A lot of cats have bare muzzles, it's fine, and the tail is fine. 15:53, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and enlarge the haunch highlight just a tiny bit. Looks wonderful =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:36, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 15:50, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Creekfeather (Ki) - For Approval
Creekfeather as a kit 21:55, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing, lighten the ear pink, darken the stripes-- 22:02, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes and smudge them. 22:27, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened whole image, lightened earpink, darkened stripes, and smudged them more. 23:00, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes more; make them look feathery. It kind of looks like he is flecked. 23:33, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Smudged them even more...... I think I need to smudge them all around, not just going with the fur, to make them look more feathery..... 02:05, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and darken it a tad. Also, maybe try smudging the stripes with the size 1 brush and just run it back and forth through the tabby mark. If my charart was approved I was going to do Creekkit and that's what I did. (I made his image because I was bored XD) If that doesn't make sense then just leave it be :) 02:22, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm trying my best..... I'm also starting to despise the smudge tool..... ;) 03:53, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the spots more stripe-ish. :) 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Tried to make them more stripe-like :S 14:27, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little bigger. 14:41, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Enlarged earpink. 01:48, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too fuschia, and the stripes don`t look like stripes. Make them a lot thinner. 22:46, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I Fixed the earpink, although I'm not too sure about the stripes. They aren't very stripe-like on his warrior image, and I want a few more user's opinion on that. No offense. 00:47, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think they should look a little sharper and a little less thick. Maybe even get rid of a few of the stripes. 01:22, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes should be in a triangle shape and then smudged heavily. 01:09, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. It looked so good and strip-y, until I smudged it.... :( 16:24, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

It looks really nice! Just make the earpink a little pinker, like on the warrior image. Zexion; The Cloaked Schemer  02:06, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Use the smallest possible brush for smudging. It will help your outcomes. =) - -   Wildheart  W h a t i s r i g h t n o w ? 03:31, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes a tad skinnier. 05:48, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 04:51, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Good. You got the idea when you smudged it. Looks good, but make the stripes smaller so that it's like little patches. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:56, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Great job, Rainlegs! =) Can you add some highlights to the tail? -- 14:06, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 03:33, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

You still need to make the stripes into something more resembling the patches on his other chararts. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:37, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Okay..... Stripes or Patches? I'm switching back and forth here. 02:42, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

They are stripes, but they are smudged to look like patches. 15:38, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Mmkay. That clarifies things..... 14:51, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Just make stripes and smudge them a lot with the small circle tool to make it look somewhat like a patch-- 23:06, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid the image. 02:55, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, add shading under the chin, lighten the ear pink, smudge the patches. -- 04:14, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Lemme guess...... Thin out chin shading? 01:35, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Haha chin shading looks fine. I know this is kind of contradicting what nightshine JUST said, but darken the earpink. Not a LOT, so that it's like it was before, but just so it doesn't look so bubble-gum pink, y'know? =P Make the patches a leetle bit smaller and smudge them a leetle bit more XD --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:09, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:28, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the nose colour, lighten the ear pink, define the patches-- night  shine  ❄ 02:08, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looking good! Move the chest highlight up a bit. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:01, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Nerp. Was grounded from the computer. I'm back, though! 00:52, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blackstar (Alt. L) - For Approval
This is my first leader as well as the first PCA charart I made with GIMP. I'm not sure about the highlights. What do you guys think? 00:07, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur/smugg the ear pink, and lighten the whole image. 00:19, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights a little and blur them. 00:38, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Moonflight, when you use the blur tool, turn the rate up to 100. Not sure if you knew that. But anyways, lighten the entire image and make the nose colour darker. 01:06, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the image, and brighten the highlights. Also, when you make a black cat, make sure you fill it in with a very dark grey, instead of solid black. Also, darken the shading. I love the way you did the ear pink, by the way! 01:22, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

It looks as if you've colored his pelt with solid black, because I can't see the lineart. My suggestion is to redo the image, using a dark gray for the pelt like Nightflower said. You can try lightening it, though. 03:09, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I didn't use black, but it was close. I redid it and completely did away with the highlights. 03:17, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Much better! Blur and thicken the shading. 04:13, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Blur highlights and shading. ℳĨ₰₮ ₣ĨȒ€ Happy New Year!  16:35, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

lighten him just a little bit, and smug the ear pink with the black. 06:17, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I redid him. Comments? 18:25, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and darken the whole image; right now it looks dark gray. Add shading under the chin and lighten the ear pink-- 00:17, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Bleck...comments? 18:54, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good job. Darken the shading on the tail. 17:43, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * lighten the front legs more*Wildfire* 15:01, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading under the chin on the right side, blur the shading thoroughly, darken the nose colour, smudge the black into the ear pink-- night  shine  ❄ 02:08, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Add/brighten the highlights. 21:26, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Ah. Much better. 22:17, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight a bit and make it a bit bigger as well. Looks great. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:00, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't add highlights. 00:20, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay then just thin out the shading a bit on the haunch. =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:10, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Macgyver (W) - For Approval
I guess Leafstar didn't change his name when he came to SkyClan. Oh well. Comments? 00:37, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading/highlights, and blur the black and white transitions. Blur the ear pink as well. Also, I would make the black patches a bit larger. 01:02, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the patches. When you put in the shading we won't be able to see the lineart. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 15:05, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Added more shading; can you still see the lineart? 17:43, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Mostly, except by the whiskers. Straighten out the ear-pink a bit. It looks to crooked to me. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 18:11, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better? 20:41, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good but lighten the patches just a smidge more (especially the ones on the paw and the one on the lower haunch), blur them a bit and make them match the kittypet image a little better. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:55, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...both the hanch and the leg in the front on the warrior blank are rather hidden in the kittypet blank, so I'm not sure how to make them match better. 22:37, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the ear-pink. 01:41, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great! :D Darken the shading on the tail and the body to make them more visible. -- 14:04, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Any better? 23:21, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the markings bigger and closer together like on his kittypet image. Darken the shading and lighten the ear pink.-- 00:16, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Better? The patch in front looks kinda wierd, though. 02:46, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading in the middle, where the kinda pointy patch is, and lighten the patched on the back a tad, you can barley tell they've been shaded. 01:15, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Good? 15:06, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the patches some more and darken the shading-- 01:40, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Darkened shading a bit. Nightshine, when you say smudge, do you mean blur? 15:49, January 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, she means to smudge it. Go over the tools until you see one that says "smudge tool" Click that. 17:40, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. 00:45, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (Alt. Apprentice) - For Approval
Oh, meow. Cinderpelt, with a deformed leg, as an apprentice. I tried my new style with shading, then blurred it. Honestly it's better than before. The earpink didn't work so well for me. Comments? 00:45, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and straighten it out a little (if that makes sense) and blur the haunch highlight. 01:47, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the highlights. 01:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded: Straightened the ear pink; blurred, and blurred the highlights as well. Constructments? 01:56, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

It needs to be long-haired. 04:45, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 03:15, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 18:47, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

It has been a week since Icestorm has reuploaded this. May I take over? 01:41, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Wait a few more days-- 15:53, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Icestorm's computer broke. She might not be back for about 10 more days. 16:38, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, do I have permission to take over? Is it possible you could ask her? Or, shall we wait? 16:42, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

We should wait. 20:52, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work-- 00:21, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I am reposting this, Icestorm's computer had only just began working again. 23:04, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll get started right away. 17:25, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Re-Uploaded: Done. 15:43, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the highlights and the earpink. 16:41, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be bigger and triangular, and the highlights blurred. It looks great though! 18:35, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks Great! Just darken the image a little more so it looks more like her other chararts. 18:46, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, they just look like circles of pale gray. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 14:47, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Someone can take over on this since Ice has left for a little while-- night  shine  ❄ 02:07, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'll do it! Ravensoul101 02:36, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger, and more blurred.

Blur the shading. Brighten and make the earpink into a more triangular shape. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:34, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten** --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 07:09, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Are you working on this, Ravensoul? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:21, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ravensoul e-mailed me last night and told me that the wiki isn't letting him edit anything. It happened to me once, but it only lasted a day. 00:47, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Berrynose (Alt. A) - For Approval
first carart project cat *Wildfire* 23:53, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the patches, and make them a pale gray so the shading will show up. Darken the shading under the chin and on his left foreleg and hind leg. Darken the ear-pink. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:55, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rainbreath already has this reserved so it will be declined-- 23:57, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

My mistake, Rainbreath has his kit image reserved. No one else has this currently reserved so it is fine. Rename this Berrynose.apprentice.alt.png. Blur the patches of white and darken the shading.-- 23:58, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

um.. no she reserved the alt. kit*Wildfire* 00:02, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Get rid of the tail, and make the stump look the the warrior image. 00:06, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Not bad! Blur the shading, there is too much of a *searches for word* difference, if you know what I mean. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 01:11, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

do i get rid of the tail or not and how do i reupload it*Wildfire* 02:05, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

get rid of the tail. You re-upload it by left clicking on the image, clicking on 'open link' and then going to the bottom of the page it takes you to and clicking 'upload new verson', or some saying like that. 02:53, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

i would also like to join project carart*Wildfire* 03:13, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded*Wildfire* 03:17, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the tail look more natural like in his apprentice charart. Blur the shading a ton and blur the earpink. 03:21, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the white patches, make the ear pink more reddish, darken the shading-- 03:32, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *Wildfire* 15:47, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

can i join project carart? *Wildfire* 15:49, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *Wildfire* 16:23, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sure I'll add you in. Smudge the white patches. Darken the shading a lot, especially on the white areas. Darken the ear pink-- 19:58, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

what else do i need before the 24 hrs. can start?*Wildfire* 22:09, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Um, what Nightshine said above your comment? And it's not that easy, you know. Most chararts need truckloads of work, and just a couple re-uploads won't get you very far. Should I also suggest blurring the white patch on the muzzle more? It looks sort of unnatural right now. -- 22:40, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

okay, sorry *Wildfire* 22:48, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, no. It's not your fault. I'm just saying, don't get too impatient with yourself, 'kay? :3 -- 22:52, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

yah i understand but i was being a little rude*Wildfire* 23:04, January 10, 2011 (UTC) 

Make the skinny gray area between the forearm and the chest white and darken the shading there. Smudge all the white patches, darken the ear pink, blur the shading and highlights-- 01:38, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded*Wildfire* 01:03, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the white transition, make the gray area in front of his fore arm white, blur the shading and highlights, -- 04:13, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *Wildfire* 21:54, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. 00:55, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *Wildfire* 15:37, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading some more and brighten the earpink. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 22:49, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Rename it Berrynose.apprentice.alt.png please :) 21:44, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

i don't know how i tried but couldn't so how do i rename it *Wildfire* 00:26, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

You reupload the image with the correct name. 02:53, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

i dont know how could you please help*Wildfire* 02:12, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

okay i got it*Wildfire* 22:02, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading and highlights more consistent. 06:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink some. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:28, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Pod (Kittypet)~For Approval
I'm not entirely sure if Pod would get a kittypet charart, but he was mentioned as a kittypet, so I thought it was appropriate. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 19:23, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks Great! There's a faint stripe going down his back. Is that supposed to be there? 19:27, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make his muzzle gray. The shade of brown in this looks like a different colour than on his loner image. Can you fix that? -- 19:34, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I also added a scar to his muzzle. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:57, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his back and tail a tad more. 21:28, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the muzzle gray, darken the highlights, blur the shading-- 21:38, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:43, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and make the face highlight match the rest. [In intensity] 02:27, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe fix the eyes so he doesn't look cross-eyed. You don't have to, I'm just saying ⌨  ☾Ⓜⓞⓞⓝⓛⓔⓐⓕ☽ ⓴⓾overalready? 03:11, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the scar more pink. 23:39, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:26, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch and shoulder highlights some more. They seem blotchy right now. 03:28, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan

Make his scar look more like the one on his loner image, right now it looks like hes blushing, whoa TINY FONT Maplepool 06:37, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

The scar should look sharper and more defined. Wee I has a tiny font also~ xD 22:15, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

To Lone Wolf and Maplepool: I fixed it. For the image, I would say to make the highlights more consistent. 04:09, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I wasn't sure if the darker gray lines on Pod's loner charart were his scars or not. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:17, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Blur the highlights and shading and brighten the earpink a tad. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:20, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I know the highlights look horrible. I've tried everything, but they won't blur well. Do I make them lighter or re-do the image? Idk. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 05:08, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

I would try rounding out the haunch highlight first. Let's see what that looks like before we try redoing this amazing charart. ;) 15:30, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I know. Still epic fail on highlights... <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 01:16, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Okay.... They're better. Just lighten them a tad. 01:23, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights - they're a bit blotchy. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 22:51, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 17:38, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Just blur the tail highlight a tad. 23:07, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

It looks as though he is crying. Did you intend that? It looks a bit odd. 01:48, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Moonflight, in response to your question. Yes, I did mean to make the scars like that but I did not mean to make it seem that Pod was crying. eheheh... I'll try to find a new way to style the scars. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:33, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

I don't really see the scars at all. Define the gray muzzle near the top a bit. Darken the highlights and shading, fix the blurred line art on the tail and muzzle-- night  shine  ❄ 02:04, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights some more and lighten the earpink. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 20:45, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:36, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink and (sorry) blur the highlights some more. What helps me is smudging them all in one way and then putting my blur tool on 100% and blurring it all. Do you use pixlr or GIMP? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 07:12, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Wildheart: Actually, I don't use either. I use photoshop for my chararts. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 17:32, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Huh. That's certainly shaking up the norm. XD Dodge that line of shading on the haunch to make it match the rest of the highlight. I'm really sorry to press the issue like this, but the highlights still need blurring. I can help if you want me to =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:59, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm still having problems with the highlight on his flank and it doesn't seem like it'll blur anymore in photoshop, so Wildheart, if you want to blur it, go on ahead so long as it's alright with Oblivion and Frostheart. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:59, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

That's odd. Photoshop won't blur it? How do you do your blurring? 21:24, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

No, it does blur, it just won't blur it anymore. So instead, I smear it into sharper edges and blur it then. I was gonna play with it a bit more. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 01:19, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it for you. I can't tell if I fixed it or made it worse XD I think it looks good(ish?), but you can revert it if you don't think so. Hope I helped. =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 01:38, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a million, Wildheart! I owe you a fresh-kill mouse! lol XD <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 01:39, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lol no problem, Scarletwind! *noms mouse* =P --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 01:46, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Halftail (Alt. W) - For Approval
Here's Halftail without his tail.. comments? 15:04, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

The tail is straight and unnatural. Maybe add a curve to it 18:00, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

I just cut off the warrior tail, I think it looks fine. 22:16, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the image and make the stripes on his face more noticeable. 23:35, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

maybe lighten the haunch*Wildfire* 23:37, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the head shading, and center the ear pink. 23:45, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes more like the style on his other images-- 23:59, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Moonleaf, the tail doesn't look right. When you see the full thing on the normal warrior blank it has a curve at the top which keeps it from looking too unnatural, but on here, it looks like his tail is a stick. Also, the colours and stripe style on this image don't match his other ones. 17:31, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Moonleaf and Mosspool as well. The tail looks to straight. Adding a curve in it would make it look much better. 00:43, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

There's no need to repeat what they just said. :P Brighten the highlights a tad, Oblivion. :) -- 00:46, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I tried... the tail still looks odd. 03:49, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Add more Y stripes and try to make it more consistent to his elder image. 03:55, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the tail, add more face stripes, move the ear pink down a bit and blur it, make the shoulder highlight and haunch highlight bigger and blur them, darken the haunch and neck shading. -- 04:12, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Looks a lot better, oblivion. The tail could use a touch of light, though. 22:14, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno. To me, the tail looks crumpled and withered like it was crushed rather than bitten. Maybe don't curl it so much and make it a tad thicker? I can also see some gray speckle near the second stripe on the tail from the base, can you fix that? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:25, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 11:22, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the image some. 23:54, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 00:53, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a tad. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:22, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome. Just add some more stripes to the back. 03:09, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Change the shade of brown to match Halftail's elder image and use a thin brush and draw on y tabby stripes for consistency. 04:12, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Mossy, I'm using the shade of brown from his warrior image. The stripes on that image are all in the same spots as in mine, I think it's pretty consistent. 15:28, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the midriff shading, blur the shading at the bottom of the haunch-- night  shine  ❄ 19:16, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

There's a small splotch of gray right below the tip of the tail. Fix that please. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 23:54, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the tail stripes, blur the ear pink and make it a bit more pink, blur the shoulder highlight, darken the neck shading-- night  shine  ❄ 23:57, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's very consistent. . . I guess the colour is fine (even if his elder image colour seems barfier to me), but even if they are in the same spots, the stripes on his elder image look totally different than the ones on here. 03:47, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

It's consistent to Halftail's warrior image. 04:44, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

It looks nothing like his elder image. 22:00, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay guys, calm down. I agree, Oblivion, you've made the colour and everything match his image, and the stripes look sort of like his elder image, but the elder image's stripes are a tiny bit thinner and are more Y-tabby-ish. Now personally, I prefer the image as it is, but seeing as this is more of a consistency issue rather than a vanity issue... Anyway, you don't need to redo the image or anything, but add another line to some of the stripes and make them a tiny bit thinner. Not a huge thing, just a little tweak. It looks gorgeous, btw. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:36, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, Wildheart, we werent' fighting. :P But it should stay as is, if it should be consistent to either the elder or warrior image, it would have to be the warrior image. 15:35, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I decided to cut it off before it escalated to such XD Ignore pretty much all I said. Silly me only looked at the elder image. **facepalm** --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 20:42, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Umm okay, but then I guess we should change the elder image when tweak week comes. 20:55, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the very bottom of the haunch. Looks good. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:00, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the front of the front leg or get rid of the shading at the top of the front leg. It looks weird how theres shading and then like a highlight on the leg. 00:10, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, was Halftail ever seen as a warrior with half a tail? As for the image, I would say make the ear pink consistent with his other images. 00:30, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Tumblekit (Alt. Ki) - For Approval
Knowing my "great" history with black cats, I decided to practice my black cats, and contribute to the wiki. So, what better image to do than Tumblekit? 22:22, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear-pink a tad and add a highlight to his face. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 01:14, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Is the nose okay? I had to re-do the image. Long story. 01:47, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

There is a slightly light area on the right side of his pelt. Make that darker-- 04:10, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I also blurred the ear pink slightly, and made the eyes kinda purple-ish XD 04:19, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make the right earpink the same size as her right. 14:16, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 01:32, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish, blur the chest highlight, darken the nose colour, make the eye colour more noticeable-- night  shine  ❄ 16:24, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  20:47, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Her eyes look kinda purplish. Are they supposed to be like that? There's also a light mark of gray on his left haunch, can you correct that? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 17:43, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Had to re-do the image. 04:15, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights, it looks a bit flat. Also, brighten the earpink. Looks great. :) 01:14, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  00:08, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the image a little. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 17:03, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:49, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading/highlights. 22:58, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  23:01, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller-- Night  shine  00:09, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  21:05, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Phenomenal, Nighteh. ;) Just brighten the chest highlight a little, and add a highlight to the tail, please. =) -- 21:23, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reupladed  05:18, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Tawnypelt(Alt. W)- For approval
I did the best I could, but idk... 01:12, January 22, 2011 (UTC)Mintstarr (Talk)

I moved this to the right section. I don't see her being mentioned as cream coloured in the trivia night  shine  ❄ 01:15, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I believe this is for her tawny colored alternate. The reference is I believe on page 3 of Midnight. 02:55, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Assuming this has a correct reference for now: Tawnypelt should be more ginger or orange-colored; this looks too brown/cream. The earpink is too small and too light, make it dark redder and a tad larger. Add a clearly visible highlight to the tail, and brighten the highlights. Darken the shading, make it thicker, and blur them thoroughly. In my opinion, the ear could use a slight highlight; it looks a little dark right now. -- 02:59, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I'll add that to her trivia. As for the image, blur the highlights and shading, make the ear pink more reddish. Right now this looks cream colour and it should be tawny (ginger) -- night  shine  ❄ 03:00, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Tawnypelt.warrior.alt.png 09:19, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I will fix all of this, but did I do the shading right? Mintstarr (Talk) 14:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks fine :P The ear pink needs to be redon badly, it looks more like a circle right now. Blur the shading on the front leg a bit. Other then that, nice work. 17:06, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I can't reupload the file because I'm getting a message saying, file type verification error. Mintstarr (Talk 17:59, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Better? Mintstarr (Talk) 19:26, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Move the shoulder highlight down and it still needs to be more orange. Make the ear pink smaller and more red, and blur the shading. 19:33, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

If you want to know what color she should be look at her alternate kit image. Also, blur the tail shading and make the shoulder highlight more oval shaped. 21:27, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, scratch that with the alternate kit. Just do what Iceheart said and make it more ginger. ;) 21:31, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

The shading could still be darker. The earpink looks unnatural, fix that, please. It should be darker red and more saturated, as well as more consistent and more evenly dark. Also shade her midriff, please. -- 21:20, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't think I shaded the midriff right. I made more ginger and made her earpink smaller and redder. Mintstarr (Talk) 23:10, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton and darken the earpink. The midriff shading should be from the middle of her back to her stomach. 01:01, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I fixed the earpink and shading. Mintstarr (Talk) 23:19, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading some more and perhaps make her a bit more tawny (gingery brown) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:03, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- the shading has been blurred. Mintstarr (Talk) 22:08, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

It still needs to be more tawny-coloured. Tawny is a gingery-brown, whereas this is more of a pale yellowy-ginger. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:33, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- it is gingery-browner. Mintstarr (Talk)Mintstarr 01:10, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

It could still be more ginger, and blur the shading. 01:41, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- it is more ginger and the shading has been blurred Mintstarr (Talk) 22:31, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

It should still be more richer ginger. Is this your idea of ginger? This is mango. Take a look at Tawnypelt's alternate kit image or Cherrykit's image to get an idea, Mintstarr. You've been asked to make this image ginger many times, and I still don't think you've gotten the idea. Thanks, -- 23:17, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Also, you've named it wrong. Please rename it Tawnypelt.warrior.alt, thanks. -- 23:21, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's so much the ginger aspect she's missing, but the brown. Right now it's a ginger. A pale ginger, but a ginger nonetheless. You need to make it a little more brown. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s.  23:50, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sol (R)~ For Approval
My fail of trying to do Darkhallows way of torties. Commments? 19:33, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

''Amazing! ''It looks great, and is very consistent with his loner image. The only thing I would say is to make the fur going in one way, as to me it looks like the fur is going in opposite directions. Looks great! 20:14, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! make the earpink a little more noticable, though. :) 20:28, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I know the ear pink looks bad, but its the same as the loner images, so i think i should keep it the same. 22:47, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the white legs some more, and the white chest. The tortie smudgy style is a bit odd. It's kind of smudged everywhere, whereas in one direction. Fix that, please. Darken the shading. 17:01, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 20:40, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

This. Is. Amazing. Iceheart, it's outstanding. ;D I really like the painted, smudged pelt texture. Anyways, could you darken the earpink a tad? It's sort of hard to see right now. Everything else looks incredible. :) -- 21:16, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but like i said, the ear pink matches the other images, and i know it looks wierd, but i think the should match. 21:43, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, alright then. ;) Could the highlight on the stomach be brightened a tad? :3 -- 21:48, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

It's still quite smudged in different directions, and there isn't enough black showing. 04:11, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

You call this a fail! You should see my fails sometime! This is like the Mona Lisa of tortie rogues!Cardinalfire1234 03:11, January 25, 2011 (UTC)CardinalFire1234

Re-uploaded- Thanks Cardinalfire :) 04:10, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice, make the orange on the left ear a little darker, it's hard to see the ear pink.

The patches are really. .. smudgy? XD It looks a bit messy. Try to make it look more like his loner image. 01:04, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I messed with the smudging a bit, but i like how it looks messy. Rogues a messy furred, even the line art is messier than the other ones. 01:28, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

The ear-pink is two-shaded and the belly is like.. smudged in circles, so it looks really odd. :3 21:23, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 00:07, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! If you're having trouble with the ear pink showing up, maybe put the dark grey on the ear pink, like on his loner image. 21:59, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Im not having any trouble with the ear pink. The ear is supposed to be orange, and the ear pink that shading. It may be hard to see, but thats how its supposed to be. 23:32, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ginger in his fur. It kinda got smudged out. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s.  02:05, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfur (Alt. W)- For Approval
He was mentioned as a russet warrior in Night Whispers, so here he is. :) Comments? 03:07, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Where in Night Whispers? Anyway, lighten the earpink a tad and make the scar a little longer and more pink-ish. Looks great, though! 03:14, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

As I stated on the IRC, I don't think he should get an alternate for this because russet is very similar to ginger and he has been described as ginger multiple times throughout the series. -- Night  shine  03:24, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well can we see what others think? Oh and he was mentioned as russet on page 127 of Night Whispers. 03:28, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think he deserves an alternate. Russet is more reddish dark brown, while golden brown is..well..yellow/orangeish. Darken the stripes, and define them. Lighten the shading on his front legs. Lighten the ear-pink and blur it. 03:34, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

The point is that he has been described as ginger many times and this is ginger. -- Night  shine  03:41, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Russet means dark brown with a tint of red. This will stay. 03:48, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

The shading could probably be shaded a little bit. His front leg looks a little too dark. But it looks pretty good otherwise. Mintstarr (Talk) 22:02, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Mintstarr, I didn't know what you meant by shading the shading, so maybe clear that up a bit. XD 22:26, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights look a little pinkish and could use some blurring, but you did a beautiful job! :) Mist fire I'd like fries with that 23:58, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. The scar is kinda odd. The colour is...hot pink/purple and it just looks like a line. 02:37, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink so it shows up more. Looks good. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:15, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I think I didn't do too much to the scar, so if you want me to change it more I will. DX The reason why it was a line was because I tried to make it look kind of like the one on his warrior charart, but I guess I made it too straight. :P

Oh, wow, I forgto to sign. XD That was me. 23:45, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

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Mistystar Pelt Colour
Hey everyone. :) We've been having some issues discussing whether or not Mistystar should have an alternate image for pale gray or not. Do you guys think she deserves an alt? And why? 21:00, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think she needs an alternate since the alternate description is just a different shade of gray. Some users have compared this to Yellowfang's alternate image but the colour difference was quite obvious, whereas Mistystar's pelt colour right now is won't look as different if it was darker or paler. I hope that made sense-- 21:13, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with nightshine. Dark gray(And it was really dark) to light grey is a bigger change than from pale gray/silver to whatever shade of gray it's been mistaken for. And the shade of gray also kind of depends on the artist. What i just said didnt really make sense but i hope someone understands. 22:16, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think she deserves an alternate image. Blue-gray and light gray is a big contrast in colours. In some book (i forgot which one. ._.) Mistyfoot was mentioned as looking exactly like her mother's pelt, which is darker than her current one. We can tweak it in Tweak Week, and make an alt. But it's only my opinion, I can see reason in both of yours. :) 22:43, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Frostheart. There isn`t much else to say. . . she said everything I would`ve :P 22:52, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Frostheart and Night Shine both have great points but I think I agree with the alt. image too. Dark gray and pale gray are different. Blue-gray is like dark and pale gray is well....pale gray. 'Splashpelt -Luvs Hopflight 23:36, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess pale gray is much different from blue-gray, but she was also mentioned as dark gray and I don't think she needs a dark gray alternate like Splashpelt said. 23:59, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

No, she doesn't need a dark gray, though. Since her current image is too light, and needs to be tweaked, in my thoughts. 00:09, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Frostheart. 00:18, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I don't think she needs a dark gray alt. image. I meant pale gray. Sorry about that! 'Splashpelt -Luvs Hopflight 02:34, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

And I agree with Frostheart:) 'Splashpelt -Luvs Hopflight 18:32, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

I can see reason in both arguments. Personally, I think Mistystar's chararts don't look very blue-gray, but that's beside the point. I can see the reason in her having a dark gray alt. Light gray, I'm a bit hesitant about, but if other members believe that she should have an alt. for that or both pelt colors, I won't complain. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:37, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

I'm with Scarletwind. Her chararts right now just look...gray, I guess. Going to pale gray wouldn't really make a difference, in my opinion. But after looking at the contrast between Cinderpelt's charart and Mistystar's, it definitely strikes me that a dark gray one is needed more. :) -- 14:02, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ummmm yeah. We need to tweak her current image because she's supposed to look just like Bluestar, so we tweak her's to look more like Bluestar's which is a dark blue gray rather than a light one, and make a pale gray alt. We need to find a source for her looking like Bluestar, I know they have said it before, however, I own none of the books (I just lend). Can anyone find a source? 23:21, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well, that's not precisely what I meant. XD I meant that she could have a dark gray alternate without tweaking. But, Mosspool, your idea of a pale gray alternate with tweaking works just as well. ;) -- 15:44, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Mosspool. Thouguh I'm not sure what book it is in (i think in OS, not sure) it says something about Bluestar and Mistyfoot jumping across rocks..or something. And they're exact same pelt colours..yeah. That's no help. XD 06:16, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

That was in Rising Storm when Crookedstar allowed ThunderClan passage through his territory during the floods after the gathering. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 06:18, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. :) As long as you have a reference, then that's the best way to do it, in my opinion. -- 15:04, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

So,are we going to make an alternate bersion for Mistystar? 01:50, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hard to say. Although I'm just a fellow apprentice =P, I'm not sure. Probably, I suppose, since her chararts now don't look accurate, but that would mean creating another kit, apprentice, warrior, deputy, queen, and leader charart for Mistystar (unless we're going to make it only for her warrior image, since that's was her position as of Rising Storm). If everyone's up to the challenge, I have no problem with it whatsoever. But I guess the real decision is up to Frostheart and Oblivion. -- 20:17, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sol's rouge character art?
Have we agreed that Sol needs a rouge character art yet? He moves one place to another, he causes troubles for the Clans, and he stole prey from ShadowClan.

He's fine with a loner charart. I don't see why it needs to be changed if he already has one. 01:46, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

He was considered a loner first, but then actted as a rouge later. Like vise virsa with Barley. Doesn't that make sense?

He was directly called a rogue i think, i can try and fine the reference. I would love to do his image once Feathertail is approved, if he does need one. 03:04, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Dang, I wanted to do it. :P Oh, I think Lionblaze says it, but I'm not sure.

You can do it since you brought it up, but i think you need an account. 04:07, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Could I use Coontail's account? I'm his little sister so he won't mind, but I can't make my own account because I'm too young. (That doesn't mean I'm a bad colorest though :P)

No, you have to make your own account; though you cannot since you are underage. 19:13, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

I've seen people who share accounts, and they say so publicly, why is it different for me? They aren't getting reported.

The difference is that you're underage. 03:53, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, well then, could we wait till around May then? That's when I turn 13, and that's only a few months.

No, I don't think so. Feathertail (Alt. W) is on CBA right now, and Iceheart, if she has time, looks like the best for the job. And it's not a few months, it's five. :P I personally think Iceheart would be better. Not that we're in a rush or anything, but still, it's convenient. -- 02:46, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Midnite, and ya i have nothing but time. I really would love to do it, but we still don't have a leads opinion on whether he needs a rogue image. 23:56, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

You still have yet to supply a page number/quote from the book. I'm not changing anything until I see that. 23:59, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, okay, Oblivion. ;) It's on page 30 of Long Shadows. Lionblaze specifically mentions that "he'd like to tear that mange-ridden rogue apart." He, Jayfeather, and Hollyleaf were talking about Sol prior to the aforementioned quote. :) -- 02:02, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

So is there going to be a rogue charart? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:52, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I do believe so. Iceheaaaaaaaaaarrrrt? Hello? XD I suggest waiting for at least a couple of days. If Iceheart doesn't claim it by then, then I guess someone else can. -- 02:11, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

I've acctually had it reserved for a couple of days now midnite, and im just waiting for an actual leads agreement. 04:24, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't think he needs one. I think that Lionblaze thought he was a rogue, the way he acted. He started out as a loner, I'm assuming, travelling by himself and such. 12:31, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

I still disagree with you, Oblivion. Although your opinion may prove right in the end, Warriors Wiki itself describes a rogue as "usually aggressive and do not respect the warrior code, unlike loners. They sometimes trespass on Clan territories to steal from them; if they are caught by a patrol, they are chased out." It also states that "most other books imply that rogues are cats living on their own who are hostile to Clans and disrespect their ways and territories." However, the wiki also defines loners as "most books imply that loners are cats living close to Twolegs, such as cats living on a farm, like Barley" and "Loners are cats living on their own who do not belong in any Clan, looked after by Twolegs, and don't trouble the Clans." Check for yourself. So, what's my point?

1. Iceheart should be able to do Sol's rogue image, not just because of the reference I found (which you may propose to think opinionated and not very factual, but I believe to be satisfactory enough for a character pixel), but also because the wiki itself defines "rogue" as the definition above.

2. Sol, in my opinion, wasn't really much loner at all. Glancing at what he did, what he did resulted in, and what the Clans thought of him, he was, clearly, not considered a hero. I personally think Sol shouldn't have a loner image at all. Besides, looking at this wiki's definition of those two terms, Sol fits much more into the rogue category than the loner one, in my opinion.

If you don't agree with me (which you're free not to, of course ;P), then it ultimately decides the wiki as having a wildly incorrect definition of those two terms. It's up to you, Frostheart, and I suppose the rest of the leads (if required) to make this decision. I'm not trying to act biased and support Iceheart alone or anything (XD), but I'm simply stating my point.

On a side note, once this discussion is over, I think this should be archived as soon as possible. I apologize for the long rant. XD

Well, the final decision is up to you. -- 20:27, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think he should get a rogue charart. He may have seemed nice first, but he is a rogue. He was also very much like a rogue when he lived with Jingo and his group. He caused much trouble for the Clans, convincing ShadowClan to turn against the Warrior Code. Prior to this information, it looks like he seems pretty..rogue-ish? XD However, I would still like another lead's opinion as it wouldn't be fair if I made this decision all by myself. 03:09, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Sol definatly needs a rouge character. He acted like a loner at the beginning of Long Shadows, but what loner would go and convince and entire clan to stop believing in starclan and the warrior code? Just my opinion on the subject, though. 17:15, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay more people seem to think he needs a rogue picture, and there are some great supporting arguements (thanks Midnite) so im going to put his picture up for approval. 19:23, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

All right, so what's to be done with his loner images? 19:38, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should keep them. Barley was refered to as both, and he has both images, so i dont see any reason why we cant keep it. 19:53, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Definitely, Iceheart. I'm with you on this one. And you're welcome. ;) -- 21:14, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, but he doesn't need the other alternate, where he was described as a tabby. 02:26, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

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Brackenfur Alternate?
Since Brackenfur was described as russet in Night Whispers some users think he should get an alternate image for that. I believe not because he has often been described as ginger and russet is just another shade of ginger. What does everyone else think about this?- Night  shine  03:52, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

As said on the IRC, russet is on the red side, and golden brown is on the yellow-orange side. If you Google a russet cat, and then a golden-brown cat, they will both be different. 04:08, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

My point is that he has been described as ginger many times and russet is just another shade of ginger. -- Night  shine  04:17, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

It is not ginger. Russet is a dark shade of brown with red tint. You can google it, too. 04:33, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'm with Frostheart and Nighteh on this one. First of all, ginger is a reddish-yellow color (according to the New Oxford American Dictionary) and russet is a reddish-brown color (from same source). They're extremely varied. Think about it, Nightshine. If a cat was first described yellow, and then its description changed to brown, I'm pretty sure you would think an alternate to be necessary. It's the exact same situation with ginger and russet, only the yellow and the brown have an extra reddish tint to them. -- 20:12, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

I guess you guys have a point; we can keep Brackenfur's alternate up. I'll archive this soon. -- Night  shine  07:13, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

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New Lineart?
Okay, so I think we should have a lineart for those ancient cats from Leopard, Lion, and Tigerclans. It could be, like, a prowling wildcat or something.Cardinalfire1234 00:06, January 27, 2011 (UTC)CardinalFire1234

I agree but there would have to be around 3 or 4 new ones because the leader is an adult lion. He had a daughter. And the tigers. and then the leopards sooo. I wouldn't know, I'm just an apprentice but let's see what the others think. Although even though my opinion doesn't matter...I am all for the idea. They SHOULD possibly do it because they deserve a picture I think. So that is a good idea.Loudsplash100000 16:51, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

No, because we don't have a definite picture of what all the lions/tigers/leopards looked like. Everything would look the same, because all the animals would have the classic color of their species and no specified color, like the Clan cats do. That's pretty much why there aren't badger/fox/prey pixels, either. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 02:06, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Ok,Sol, is getting a Rouge image, but should he get a tabby-and-white rouge image? If so may i do him as I have said before, im BADLY bored now...ugh >.< Maplepool 05:11, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, please look under the section for Sol's rogue image. Oblivion clearly explains that Sol will not have a tabby rogue. Thanks, -- 23:00, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Daisytail
Shouldnt she get a warrior image? I mean, when was the last time you heard of a StarClan queen? 00:41, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Snowfur was a queen when she died so she is a queen in StarClan. Daisytail was never mentioned as a warrior so she probably shouldn't get a warrior image-- Night  shine  01:29, January 29, 2011 (UTC)