Forum:Official Art Alternate Images Vote

This is a forum wherein members of PCA vote on whether to count certain official art depictions (cover art, ultimate guide art, etc.) as alternate images.

Each heading will contain a specific depiction, and a link will be provided to said art for reference. Voting can be done for each section.

Members should feel free to add any official depictions that they see as fitting for being alternate images (as new headings).

An alt will pass if it contains 5 or more for or against votes, just like in tweak nominations (this may be subject to change).

Firestar - Into the Wild cover art
File:OS-1.jpg

For

 * 08:31, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * —  Ellie Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity  ''' 08:36, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 14:07, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 14:07, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 14:07, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

 * what blank(s) would this be used for? Kittypet, apprentice, and warrior? 15:16, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * Since Firestar has this design in Rising Storm too, I think it warrants kittypet, apprentice, warrior and deputy. —
 * No, it would be just apprentice, considering Firestar's image here depicts the scene in camp after the battle with Longtail and Bluestar appoints him an apprentice. 22:37, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * Erm, just apprentice for this instance. For Rising Storm it would be deputy, and I think warrior too per Fire and Ice and leader per the manga. 22:53, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Firestar - The Last Hope cover art
File:OTS-6.jpg

For

 * —  Ellie Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity  ''' 08:38, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * not a tabby. at least it isn't obvious
 * not a tabby. at least it isn't obvious

Against

 * white muzzles are not a mistake when it comes to being a tabby cat, and in any case is not major enough to warrant. 08:30, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * agreed with Trolly 14:08, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * Also cannot see enough of the body. 22:37, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 23:00, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

 * is this supposed to be for the white around his eyes and muzzle only? or the chest too which I think is actually the cutoff for the art? 08:40, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Feathertail - Moonrise cover art
File:NP-2.jpg

Against

 * this....is a silver tabby. 08:28, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * —  Ellie Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity  ''' 08:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * is still a silver tabby imo.
 * fits her description 14:08, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 22:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 22:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Jayfeather - The Ultimate Guide / Eclipse / Cats of the Clans / The Sight art
File:Jayfeather.PO3-1.png File:Jayfeather.FG-2.png File:Jayfeather.FG-6.png File:Jayfeather.PO3-4.png I figure I dish this out all as one, since they all depict him as the same light grey tabby with a white muzzle. This should warrant a kit, warrior app, mca app and medicine cat. If this goes through, I'd like his medicine cat alt :3 —

For

 * it’s a different kind of tabby than what we have depicted. Due to the lack of mottled and a lighter gray pelt color, I say go for it.  14:10, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * lack of mottles is extremely minor and does not call for an alt, as well as only one image of those actually being fullbody and faraway and rather indisdinct. we dont have alts for some cats because you cant base alts off purely a head, so this shouldnt be any different. and every tabby ever has a white muzzle. its part of being a tabby. if we start making alts for those then we may as well ban paler parts and white muzzles on tabbies again bevauae theyve been deemed an error and cannot be on normal images. 08:21, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 15:17, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 22:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 15:17, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 22:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

 * I think that first one for PO3-1 should just be a dark gray, as that's what it seems to look like. I don't see tabby on that. —  Ellie Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity  ''' 08:43, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * i think its the lighting, and he has stripes by his eyes. its also only his head. 08:45, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Littlecloud - The Ultimate Guide
File:Littlecloud.FG-6.png definitely more gingery here 22:07, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

For

 * 23:54, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 23:54, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * 22:41, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 23:01, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Runningnose - The Ultimate Guide
File:Runningnose.FG-6.png darker blue/gray depiction 22:07, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * is grey and white, matches the description plus the lighting/whatever that is is what makes it look slightly blueish 22:26, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * as I said before, still depicts him as gray-and-white. ​
 * 22:38, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 23:02, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Russetfur - The Ultimate Guide
File:Russetfur.FG-6.png same reasons as firestar; lighter than dark ginger 22:07, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * is plenty dark here; far far darker than say flametail, and also the fact the sun is shining right on her in the image. 22:25, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 22:36, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 23:02, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Brook - The Ultimate Guide
File:Brook.FG-6.png 22:07, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * We cannot see enough of the body to make it out. 22:13, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * what even is wrong here aside from the eyes? 22:27, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 00:38, December 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * 00:38, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Sasha - Category:Tigerstar and Sasha
File:Sasha.concept.png Siamese point paws. —

For

 * —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   23:37, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 00:39, December 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * {{voteyay}

Against

 * should concept art even count? it's not finalised. 22:28, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 22:36, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

 * This one is a bit misleading, probably my fault. This isn't just concept art, I have it named as such since I couldn't think of anything. It's a full version of File:TS-1.jpg on the one side of the image.

Tigerstar - Tigerstar and Sasha
File:TS-1.jpg File:TS-2.jpg File:TS-3.png Tigerstar is a white tabby on all of them. 22:48, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * —  Ellie Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity  ''' 23:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

 * Isn't this already a charart? 23:00, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Hawkfrost and Mothwing - Tigerstar and Sasha
File:TS-3.png Hawkfrost is a white tabby. Mothwing also is not golden. She is brown. 22:48, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * do we know which is which? and she looks golden to me, she's just mostly in shadows. 22:51, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Riverstar - The Ultimate Guide
File:Riverstar.FG-6.png - Seems to be depicted as solid instead of tabby. SquidwardPlays 23:35, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

For

 * 23:40, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   23:49, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 23:55, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 00:40, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Sandstorm - The Ultimate Guide
File:Sandstorm.FG-6.png - Again, depicted as solid and not tabby. SquidwardPlays 23:35, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * she's depicted to have pale stripes, in certain lighting that can make it seem like it's solid. —  Ellie Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity  ''' 23:49, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Windstar - The Ultimate Guide
File:Windstar.FG-6.png - Again, depicted as solid and is darker than her chararts are. SquidwardPlays 23:35, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

For

 * —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   23:49, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 00:41, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

 * chararts are irrelevant here. what matters if it goes against the written description. 23:37, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * Either way, she still has the written description of tabby while this is solid. SquidwardPlays 23:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm aware, this is for future reference when nominationg as again they're irrelevant. 23:40, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Fallen Leaves - The Ultimate Guide
File:Fallen Leaves.FG-6.png - Depicted as primarily ginger and not patched. . SquidwardPlays 23:35, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * can only really see his head. 23:37, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   23:49, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 00:27, December 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * 00:41, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Boulder - The Ultimate Guide
File:Boulder.FG-6.png - Appears to be depicted as tabby rather than solid. SquidwardPlays 23:35, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

For

 * —  Ellie Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity  ''' 23:49, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 23:53, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

 * I believe we already have an elder image of this, but nothing else. 00:38, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Bluestar - The Ultimate Guide
File:Bluestar.FG-6.png - More blue tinted and darker than what we have. SquidwardPlays 23:35, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Against

 * is blue-grey already, only contradicts the pale part, and we already have chararts that are too close to this I believe. 23:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   23:49, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * 00:42, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Comments

 * We have alts of her pelt colouring here already, I think. —
 * If we do then I'm well unaware of it before now and it's surely good to know if we do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SquidwardPlays 23:37, December 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * We most certainly do.   00:26, December 24, 2018 (UTC)