Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. G B 57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. G B 57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. G B 57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. G B 57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've improved her. How is she? G B 57 21:56, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Great! I don't see anything wrong :D. You did a pretty nice job. Sparrowsong 18:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be less circular and the shading needs to be darkened. --Hallow's Eve 09 21:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Blackclaw. Also, maybe try blurring the stomach-patch just a tad more. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the patch, but the ear pink has already been made less circular. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I see wrong is that darker shading is needed. That's all. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Needs it's shading thickened immensely and blended. Ear pink could be toned down, but it mostly needs blurred some. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better, but go back, it looks like you blurred the line art or added black marks.Minnowclaw 12:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be more... intense Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the lineart. But Sandy, i don't get what you mean by "intense" <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Sandy, but I think she meant that it needs to be darker. (Sandy corect me if I'm wrong.)Minnowclaw 14:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well yes, that is kind of what I mean. It needs to be not just darker but a little thicker and blur it really well so it actually looks like shadows on his pelt. Some good examples of how the shading needs to look are Shadepelt and Rushtail's image which is currently up for approval. (I can't think of any more off the top of my head, sorry) It's not exactly just darker; it needs to look like a part of the pelt. I really hope that made some sense. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Done. I tried to fix it... <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 13:30, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

There should be more shading on the legs, and you might want to add a tiny highlight to the top of the herbs. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:24, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Try blurring the shading, and also, finish coloring in the far ear. After that, and doing what the above comments say, I'd think you're good to go. =) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

This has been up for a week now. Morningleaf please work on this or it will be declinded and we can't have something that is sooooo good and close to being done go to waste.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:48, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! I have, like lots of other ppl, been buried alive in homework. I'll go work on it now. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? I added shading to the legs, fixed the ear, and blurred the shading more. Can someone please tell me how to do highlights? I don't know. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:11, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

You can add highlights with the doged tool.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:12, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I added the highlight. Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 00:05, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot; right now it's very bumpy and uneven. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:29, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Crowfeather (App) - For Approval
Hereeeeeeeeeeeeee's Crowfeather as that annoying little apprentice when we first met him. Personally I loved his snobbish personality ^_^ and spunk. You know he was determined to do anything.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:09, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I don't see anything wrong. Great job! :) -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 20:47, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Same here, and I completely agree with you about Crowpaw! He's awesome! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 16:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Shimmerpool! Darken the ear pink to a more reddish color, blur the highlights some more, and it should be ready! And I agree with you and Stealthfire, Crowpaw's awesome! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:01, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks gray. Try making it more pink.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:09, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Question =/ with the new rule, should I still be doing this pic or not?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 01:10, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

It's been 10 days...I'm not sure, but as long as you work on it and post something within the next couple of days it should be fine. (I think.) -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:15, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Shimmer: this was put up before the rule and you've had him on your reserved images before the new rule was made so you can finish him and then work only on current ranks. I think his ear pink needs to be darker and the shading/pelt is smeary, so a bit of blending would probably fix it. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:29, October 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok finally got him up inbetween practice and projects. How's the ear now?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 00:36, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Much better. This is very good Simmerpool! Great job.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe blur the ear pink even a bit more than that. Otherwise, this looks great! -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:33, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

This is beautiful, Shim! I think the highlights should also be blurred a little bit. But, otherwise, he looks awesome! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:59, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For approval


(M) - Not much to say about these. First blank I've made where you can see both sides of the face and such, and probably the last blank I'll do for a long time. Will make a colored version over the weekend. (Maybe.) Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute. But their bellies and legs look.. weird. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

A few things though...What i think could be improved  How I would do it..... Feel free to remove this or disregard it if i'm wrong, but its lineart looks a bit odd only in this area. Summary of it: The arm has odd, unnecicary lines, the showing hind leg goes a bit up, or thick, the stomach area is oddly shaped, and the eye is a bit odd... But its fabulous in the rest.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 00:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks a little disproportionate--AutumnSky 02:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made a example and changed up the lineart a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just to let everyone know, I'm still working on these. Please don't decline. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The arm showing looks either too thin or too long, and the showing hind looks to high or thick.<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 01:09, November 3, 2009 (UTC) I really wanna see these improved, so if you need help re-lining them, i made this. And a colored version of my cat, speedy.The colored version looks terrible because i didnt shade it. Dont criticize it...<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploded. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:44, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

This might sound weird... but the stomachs look like kangaroos in that they have a kind of pouch... I think it's the way the lineart seems to overlap. Also, there are a lot of little lines that are kind of unecessary and will make colouring difficult. Try and simplify them a little without losing too much important detail. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 23:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be easier to add ear pink if the line in the ear that is closest to us was taken out, but thats just my opinion. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Gorsestar (L) - For Approval
Okay, my first charart. Sorry if i'm doing something wrong. X3 And perhaps I shouldn't have started with a Tabby... :/ Okay, I'm ready for the critique! (And yes, sorry but I couldn't figure out how to get the background transparent. XP) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 00:48, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * WOW I like this XD the left ear pink is on the line art a bit. and the left leg at the top the dark bit is going out of the line art an bit. and with the head you see the line like a bowl (sort of) try and put a bit of shading under it. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:04, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. And is it just me, or does my attempt at shading resemble a collar? XD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:30, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

lol yeah maybe a bit try looking at Vinestar. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:33, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:40, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

nice one more thing on the new bit on the left it's gone over the line art Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:42, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:55, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is impressive for your first Charart, Shigura! Just a few things - first of all, the ear pink is a little too circular (it should be more triangular-shaped, and kept inside the ear lineart). The nose should be colored in pink (for a grey cat, it should be a dull grayish-pink color). The tabby markings should be thinner (maybe make them with a size 3 brush), there should be a lot more of them, and they should be blurred into the pelt just a bit. Lastly, darken the shading a bit, especially on the head to make it look more 3-dimensional. As for the transparent background, I did it for you (I hope you don't mind). -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:34, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I couldn't get the thick stripes off Gorsestar without making him look dumb, so I started again with the Gorsestar picture I had with just the shading. I tried doing stripes like the one on the Birchstar picture. Are they any good? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 20:22, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I forgot to do the nose. Silly me. XD Any other critique besides the fact the nose is white? XDD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 20:26, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry for triple-posting, but I re-uploaded, this time with the nose colored in. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 22:54, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

No, good job Shigura!-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Umm.. did I upload it wrong? For some reason the image keeps reverting back to the white-nosed picture! Or is it just me? D: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 20:00, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

That's only in the boxes of all the previous images. If you look at the actual image up top, not in the boxes, you should see the updated image. I've wondered about that, too, but I know that the uploaded image is visible on the top, the one the full size and not in the box. For the actual image, it looks lovely, but you might want to add some shading between the two ears on the head. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:28, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any more critique? :3 <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 00:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Add some shading on the left (our left, Gorsestar's right) side of the head, like you did on the other side. Otherwise, great job! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:47, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 00:59, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Could you make the nose a bit more of a grayish-pink? It looks a bit redish Ashshadow 22:35, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 23:27, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

It's pretty good, but the ear pink looks too purple and the stripes need to be blurred a bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:black; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;"> Vampiresong vants to suck your blood! |undefined 21:44, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks more purple than pink. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:39, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I just realized that Sparrowsong said that the ear pink looked purple, and then I say it again...sorry, I wasn't paying attention like I should have been. Also, the tail-tip looks a bit strange... -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:10, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

On many gray cats, the noses are kind of a dark, rosy color. Could you make the nose color a bit more like that? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:38, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, normally I would have this done, but I'm really sick. ;_; Please don't decline this, and Echo; I'm really sorry I haven't gotten that Grey She-cat with the amber eyes fixed yet.I'll have this done by the end of the week. Or I'll try to.. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 12:53, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Aw, sorry to hear that, Shigura. :( Hope you get better soon. And don't worry about the gray she-cat with amber eyes, it's not like it's timed or anything :). -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:11, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry if there's color over the lineart, and if the nose isn't any darker. I really couldn't tell if It managed to save or not. My computer crashed when I tried to save the image. >_> <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 19:16, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Aww, that stinks! T.T (Are apprentices allowed to critique?) I think that the eye shine looks a bit odd, does anyone else think so? Great job though.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 14:24, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I asked that same question a while ago. XD But yeah, you can critique. (As someone told me, It's part of the learning experience.) As for the eyes... can someone give me something to look at, or a guide of somesort? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 14:55, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

You should scroll down and look at Bramble's Crookedstar eyes, they are pretty good.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 14:59, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reedwhisker (W) for approval
Not much to say. comments? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:39, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

You may want to blur the shading alot, and lighten the black just barely.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 13:28, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, blend the shading, and also, his eyes are green. Not blue. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 13:45, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make the shading blured and bigger.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:55, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading and ear pink, but the reason why I didn't change the eye color is because his discribtion said blue and I don't remember reading that he had green. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:17, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is fine now, but you need to make the shading thicker.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:47, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Done. What else? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 21:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Nothing that I can see, good job Spottedwing.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:02, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few, if slightly picky things. Firstly, the shading could be thickened a little more as it's hugging the lineart very closely at present and could look more like shadows if it was slightly thicker. Secondly, there doesn't need to be shading on the top of the muzzle. The ear pink is also quite large and needs to be smaller for a black cat. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Darn, I can never see something like that :(-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Seriously Minnow, don't worry. I've lost track of the number of times i've put out the 24 hours and about 8 people have then flooded the image with improvements ^_^ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:03, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy, that helpped a lot. <(^-^)> HUGS!-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 22:33, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink still needs to be fixed, as Sandy said above. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:40, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the ear pink. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 17:08, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

It's not that much fixed.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 17:58, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ok hows this? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:45, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The color is better, you just need to blur it. (wow I'm typing this really fast and making a lot a of mistakes.)!!!!!!!!:) :) :) :)-- *Minn owc law*  15:38, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blured the ear pink.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 18:06, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's much better now. I think it's ready.-- *Minn owc law*  18:51, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval in 24 hours? (Yay I said it!)-- *Minn owc law*  20:05, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the paws is very messy, and part of it is only lapping at the lineart. On the hind leg that we can see, the shading would be better if it was on the bottom of the entire leg. Also, the shading on the top of the head between the muzzle and ear could be thickened some, and, personal opinion, it would look better if there was some shading on the back of the tail (use the burn tool once or twice on our right half of the tail vertically, blur, and it should be fine). Other than that, this looks very good. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. <font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Kit-Mother Blanks ~ For Approval


How do you like my suckish artwork? xD Gawd, I need a tablet... The example is better than the blanks: <BR> Comment/Suggestios? (Suggestions OTHER than leaving the drawing to experts? xD)-- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh..my..staclan..THIS IS SO CUTE! I love the way she's staring at you like "I'm not fat!" The only thing I could say is that the head looks, a bit small-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I'll make the head a little bit bigger. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:26, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Heads are bigger by a tad. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

it look a bit odd..what is she doing? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if Apprentices are allowed to critique, and I love the blanks, but there are a few spots that look a bit... out of place. XD The paw near the Kit-Mother's head looks a bit flat, and the tails could be a smidge wider, but that's all I see. (: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 21:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Everyone's aloud to critique. That's part of the learning experience, being able to say what's wrong with a picture. :) Mumble: I agree with Shigura, the paw looks flat, and the tail could be a small bit wider. And also, the tail on the shorthair could maybe brought to the left a little bit, so the bottom of the lineart on the tail is at the same curve as the bottom lineart of the tail on the longhair, giving a curve that makes it more natural. Otherwise, great job, Mumble! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but the muzzle is a little thick, that shouldn't be too hard, methinks. You put queen blanks up a while ago, right? You've really improved ^^.-- Darkhallows 07:34, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The neck looks fat.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darkhollows: Yes, I did. :) I think I tryed a freindly blanks war with melon! xD Thank you! ^-^<BR> Bramble: She's laying down while looking at you. :P Yeah, not very well-thought-out position...<BR> Everyone who offered suggestions: I'll do that. How would I make the paw look less flat? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the paw more curved, like she's trying to swat the air? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 18:14, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - The tip of the short haired looks pointy. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 11:42, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do all of those ASAP, but I'm unable to get on very often since school is eating up my free time. Please do not delete these. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:44, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Icewing(W) For approval
The first white cat I've had up for approval...Anything to fix?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 15:33, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

This is wonderful, Bracken! But, she looks a bit bluish. Make the shading more of a pale gray. Great job, though! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Bracken! But I have to agree with Hawktalon, the image looks more blue than white. And also, the ear pink needs to be more in the middle of the ear rather than on the edge of the ear like it is now. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:04, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Aren't we supposed to wait until TFA comes out before we make the TFA characters? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 18:12, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sorry, Bracken. Otherwise, Foxleap wouldn't have had to be withdrawn. Sorry, Bracken. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:19, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

wait, before I withdraw this, are there any other white she-cat warriors?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:58, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

here's Icewing now--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 19:00, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink and bluish-color still need fixed. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:11, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Much better! There's some blurred lineart on one of the front legs, though. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

There's also a line of white pixels on the top of the back leg's lineart. :) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 20:57, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 21:18, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

There's a gray line next to her front right leg. Ashshadow My Clan 00:32, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedleaf (MCA)- For approval
I made this by accident while trying to make two of my characters, soo.. I'm kina going to use this with a different eye color a bit in an Rp...Hope you dont mand. Comments?--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 21:09, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

This is good but you used the regular apprentice blank Ashshadow 21:19, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Darn! I just relized that. Here, lemme change that.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 21:29, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Grayravenpaw had this researved before you did. But before you withdraw it, I suggest changing it into another tortoiseshell apprentice, like Dappletail. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

This is great, but we said that we would only do curent pictures. Are there any other cats you make her?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 21:38, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I, I really don't know. When did we decide to do only current characters?<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 21:42, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I thought we were doing imageless characters. Ashshadow 21:46, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

My fault, I didn't announce the decision we made. Keep this up; it's good, but after it's approved then do imageless characters, as Ashshadow says. Spottedleaf already has a picture. I believe you misunderstood; you can do whatever character you like, but in the current rank they are in, and only if they don't have a picture. Follow me? -- Bramble -san  22:07, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I follow, but someone said G.R.paw reserved spottedleaf as a mca. And I did all of this work, and blah. Who else can this be?<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 23:31, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Well, why don't you talk to Lightning (G.r.paw) and ask if he'd mind you doing this image? It's worth a try and that reservation has bene up for a lot longer than two weeks (even counting his illness recently) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:27, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Shadowedheart! I just read my coment over and it was SO unclear. My bad!-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:49, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be taken down now?--<Big> *Minn owc law* </Big> 20:58, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

No. Well, I don't think so atleast. G.R.paw's out and its been awhile so.. i think i should be able to do this image. I worked forever on it.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 21:43, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * I really like this image and have spoken with Bramble and we've agreed you can keep her up as Spottedleaf. Back to the actual image as there haven't been any comments so far about it. I really like it, as I said, and can't see anything wrong. I'll give others a chance to comment now the mix-up has been started and then I think it's ready for approval. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 23:16, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The back leg that's mostly hidden looks really dark compared to the rest of the brown in her pelt. -- Ashshadow My Clan 01:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

That's because the chest casts a shadow over it, thus making it darker.<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 02:37, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I know there's a shadow but the shading looks darker than the shading on the pelt. That might just be me though.-- Ashshadow My Clan 02:42, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Take it.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:07, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I think the shading looks fine. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:06, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

We always have put shading on the leg like that because of I shadow. Don't worry Ashshadow. When I first joined, well you don't even want to know. Does anyone else have anything or does anyone else side with Ashshadow?-- *Minn owc law*  01:21, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I think she looks fine. Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:51, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Fuzzypelt- for approval
Oh my, his name -shudders-.-- Darkhallows 02:47, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

I love the fur, Darky. At the moment, I have nothing. -- Bramble -san  03:25, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, Nothin' as usual.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:29, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

There's a white pixel in the lineart of the tail. Other than that, I can see nothing. I'd say beautiful, but I don't think that fits it for Fuzzypelt, so I'll say awesome instead. Awesome! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:02, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:42, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

There is still a white mark.--<Big> *Minn owc law* </Big> 19:05, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ugh, stupid me, I was tired and I didn't read Icethroat's comment >.<. -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 19:54, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry Echomist, we always have times like that.--<Big> *Minn owc law* </Big> 20:57, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Crookedstar - For Approval


Don't know what to make of this one... how is he? -- Bramble -san  03:24, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Wow... that's really good. :) All I have is a suggestion; Shouldn't he have a Crooked jaw? XD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 12:18, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

That's all I go too. If it helps, it said in bluestar's prophecy that it looked like it had been flipped over.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:29, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

I tweaked his mouth line a little bit; look more crooked now? -- Bramble -san  04:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm..I think it just looks like he's frowning now. Perhaps you could move the actual jaw (chin) lineart over a few pixels. Unless you've already done that; it's kind of hard to tell. Wonderful job on the coloring itself, though!:) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Orange; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange; ">Werecat Happy Halloween! 15:33, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Does this look better? -- Bramble -san  23:27, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Make it sort of tilted, because now, it looks like my friends cat who broke her jaw from falling out of her 5 story apartment when she was a kitten. Don't worry, the only side effect is that she drools when she purrs.-- *Minn owc law*  02:39, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Poor kitty. :) Does this look better? It's not as if it's been smushed now, more like it's been jarred to the side. If it still doesn't look good, you'll have to explain to me how to do it... I really am not sure what I can do to make it perfect. -- Bramble -san  22:56, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

It looks fin now Bramble. But where did you get the reference for the cream paws and neck. If it's abstract art then don't change it because I have done my fair share of that in my pictures. -- *Minn owc law*  23:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

The shameful truth is that he had a cream chest and front paws in his Cats of the Clans picture, and I thought he looked good with them. :) Is he alright this way?-- Bramble -san  00:13, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think he looks fine the way he is. A lot of our approved pictures have extra features (even though I can't name one off the top of my head). =) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 00:26, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Ya I added some things to my leopardstar because it looked better with them then without. Okay, I don't see anything wrong and I can't wait to see waht totally cool things you have to show us next. So... Comments before approval in 24 hours?-- *Minn owc law*  01:38, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Cloversplash - For Approval
While going through the code of the clans cats, trying to find one which had a description. (hey, about that, if you find a cat who doesn't have a description (say, Hayberry or Greenflower) what do we do? Make one up in consideration to what is most likely? (Hayberry - ginger, and Greenflower - green eyes)????) So I made Cloversplash. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:11, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

It says that she has a white spot on her nose. Could you maybe move it down a little, or is it too hard?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:48, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Marshscar-for approval
My first cat, comments?--AutumnSky 01:47, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The background needs to be transparent, there need to be a few more scars, the ear pink needs to be more in the ear, the shading needs blurred, the ear pink will also need to be blurred, and the eye needs colored in. Also, the battle scars that you have right now are too bright, and need to be blurred thoroughly. And there is lineart missing in some places, and extra lineart was added in some other parts. The shading also needs to be thickened and darkened. And since his page doesn't say what color his eye is, sometimes you just have to guess. For Marshscar...I'd say give him amber eyes, since his name is Marshscar. Good job for your first charart! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Icethroat covered it all, except the bg is gray. I have a guide to simple charart on my page if you need help.-- Darkhallows 03:43, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I changed the bg to white for you, AutumnSky (unless you would prefer to be called something else). <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 00:51, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Ripplestar - For Approval
The perfect Halloween cat, and, strangely enough, another ancient ShadowClan leader. Comments? -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:39, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you can make the orange more natural, and love the new sig!-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 23:50, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

This is very nice, Echo! I echo Minnow, and blend the patches more. Nice sig! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:14, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Woah, everyone has Halloween signatures now. I've started a trend! LOL, nice pic. Just do what Minnow and Rain said, and blur the shading, and he should be perfect. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:black; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;"> Vampiresong vants to suck your blood! |undefined 18:30, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

black and orange cats are just torties... and well...I think the patches aren't really like that...maybe make them mre...sharpish...--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 00:20, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Screech of Angry Owl (To-Be) - For Approval
...*fidgets* Sorry, Bracken! here is the brother of Pebble. how is he? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:09, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but this is very dark and I can't see much, can you lighten it up a bit?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * 3 s;okay...like Minnow said, he IS a bit too dark so, I suggest you probably start out as a dark gray'ish coulour, then add shading 'till it looks black :3--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 21:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't he supposed to be black? But I'll lighten it anyway. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 23:34, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Yes he is black, but if it's too dark, we can't see and he might as well be purple.-- *Minn owc law*  02:34, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better, or should I lighten it more? I also blurred some of the shading and thinned it cause I thought it was too thick. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 17:33, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's still too thick on the back and belly.-- *Minn owc law*  22:08, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded Better? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q)- For Approval
--My first charart. I did the best I could. Comments =) <font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

She is completely white. Don't worry, when I started making charart, I would be that with white cats too. You need to make it a light gray, because if it's totally white, then shading won't work. Do you know how to shade? Because if not I could teach you.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

There's a few blurry sections of Lineart, and the shading should probably be thickened a bit. I can't see anything. XD (But that might be just me) The ear pink should be blurred out, and in a triangle shape. But don't worry, it's pretty good for your first charart! :) Just a suggestion; If you already know this, i'm very, very sorry. But you should go to http://pixlr.com/editor and use that. Using that program you can use the blur tool to blur shading and ear pink (Be careful not to go over lineart, and if you do, just open up paint and go over the black lines with the pencil tool) and you can use the 'Burn' tool to darken parts, etc. Once again, I'm very sorry if you already knew about pixlr. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 15:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura covered it all.-- *Minn owc law*  15:17, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

On the one cheek and behind the ear, it is lighter than the other spots. --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 15:29, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

For shading, use the burn tool. (if you already know this, ignore me), and run it over the back, hind leg, and other places that have shading. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:25, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

Okay, the lines that were blurred are a bit too thick now. And there still isn't any shading. XD (I checked. XP) There should be a few white pixels in the eye, (Look at Ferncloud's eye to see how it should look) And the ear pink should still be more triangular and blurred along the outside. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shistar Mai Talk Page! =) 17:22, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

There are only still some white parts near her face and her ear.-- *Minn owc law*  23:13, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Halftail - For Approval


Had a job making the hind leg that's normally hidden by the tail look good... how is he? Constructments? -- Bramble -san  23:36, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks great but, maybe you should move the line for the front leg donw a little. Ashshadow My Clan 00:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I think you should shift the hind leg paw to the left a bit. It looks kind of awkward right now. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:22, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Done. Anything else? -- Bramble -san  01:55, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

On the front leg we can see, the elbow-ish part looks a little lifted as if he's about to stand up. I don't know if its the charart blank or if its a mistake or intended to be that way.-- Mossy SC  23:48, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

That's just how the lineart is. -- Bramble -san  01:15, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

kk, I wasn't sure.-- Mossy SC  01:44, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Applefur - Temporarily Declined
Yay! Applekit comes back! But we still never know what happened to Marshkit. =( Anyway, here she is. I felt kind of bad cluttering up the page, but since Adderfang's in the "24-Hour-Stage", I thought you guys would be able to forgive me. =) Comments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:03, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is good! I know that it's about the same color as her kit version, but make the ear pink brighter, but not too bright.-- *Minn owc law*  21:23, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Oh, and the reason her color is a little bit different from her kit version, is because she gets a new description in The Fourth Apprentice. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:38, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

That's dum. I mean the new description not you. Make the ear pink have more color as now it looks pale.-- *Minn owc law*  22:04, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Honeyfur, but we're not making any TFA characters until the actual book comes out. You can put this up once TFA comes out, but for now this will have to be temporarily declined. -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:44, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is to Minnowclaw: I am slightly ashamed to say that I let the fact that Applefur had a false description slide. I just thought it was the most likely, and thinking that we'd never see her again thought it didn't matter. Truth is, I've never seen anywhere that Applekit was a dark ginger she-cat. -- Bramble -san  00:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

What do we do now? I'm I in trouble?-- *Minn owc law*  00:11, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

You're not in trouble Minnow - it's my fault. I relied on the wiki page for her description. I have a plan though: 1. I'll redo her kit version so in co-insides with the accurate description. 2. I think the image is going to have to go to waste as I can't think of any other dark ginger kits... unless I can have the image back and try and do something with it? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Also, temporarily declined until TFA release (I'm glad I saw this because it's reminded me not to post Beetlewhisker yet!) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Rippleclaw - For Approval
My first warrior and first tabby. I know it needs work so comments are welcome.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:22, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! This is awesome! :) Just blur the tabby markings a bit and he'll be good to go. Nice job :). -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:46, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes don't look very tabby. Try making some of them Y shaped and more wavy so they don't look like lines. Also, blur all of the shading more.-- *Minn owc law*  00:12, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I did not have to make y ones and this is good. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:54, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

You need to add some markings on the chest and some other places that don't have any. Also, I'd try and vary the markings a little (not necessarily y shapes but maybe some differences in length without it being in a pattern of all long down the side and all short in the middle) and lessen the number of stripes on the tail as it looks a bit crowded. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Okay I'll do that. Besides the chest which places don't have stripes? I put them just about everywhere else. -- Ashstar My Clan 20:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Brambleclaw14: Yes I no that they are don't need to be y's, but as Sandy said it's good to change them up a bit as they look like there in a pattern.-- *Minn owc law*  23:04, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay I fixed the stripes and blurred them. I also blurred the shading more. Is this better? -- Ashstar My Clan 21:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Cave gaurd blanks
Comments? My 1st blanks!--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 00:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Double all of the line art and make the ears less pointy.-- *Minn owc law*  01:18, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

These are a good start. Make the ear closest to us much smaller though so it's in proporton and some of the joints looks a bit cartoony... such as the shoulder. Try and make it look as realistic as possible. Also, the tails are not quite right. Try and make them more realistic too. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:56, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded and redid Ugh, I hope these are better!--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

The forepaws look kind of weird, try changing them to look like our approved blank's paws. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 22:14, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the lines a bit so that they're more like the other blanks.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 22:17, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Poppycloud(W) for approval
My first tortie..comments?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 00:52, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm up early... But, anyway, this is very nice for your first tortie! But on the right side of the orange patches on the haunch and shoulder there seems to be some hair-like smudges. Perhaps you could take them out, for they look a little unusual. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 12:26, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

The orange is way too bright... it should be more of a gingery colour. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear pink less...bright. --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 20:55, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Applekit (Redone) - For Approval
Okay, so I've tweaked her to fit with her accurate description and uploaded it over the old file name to save space on the wiki. Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I love her! Just darken the shading a little bit.-- *Minn owc law*  22:59, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

She's gorgeous, but I can't see her ear pink very well. Maybe it's just me.-- Mossy SC  23:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Oh ya Moss. (Can I call you Moss?). I see that, (or don't) IDK.-- *Minn owc law*  00:29, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Moss is fine!-- Mossy SC  00:34, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened the shading and lightened the ear pink. I'll do Birchstar's updates after tea =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:26, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I see it now, good job!-- Mossy SC  18:29, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I love it now! Does anyone have anything else?-- *Minn owc law*  22:08, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Birchstar (SC) (L) - For Approval
I attempted the shading style Quiet used on Dawnstar but not nearly to the sae quality, partly because of my lesser artistic skills and partly I think to the colour of the cat. Anyway, I'm working alphabetically down a list so here's Birchstar the third or w/e. Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't see the shading hardly at all on my computer. Although I don't see shading on hardly any of the cats on here so it could just be my monitor. Also I'd make the spots a little more random, right now they look like a polka-dot pattern. :) Looks great otherwise! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 20:01, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

two Edit conflict (looks at Goldencloud XD) I can't see a lot of shading. welcome back Goldencloud :) not that I know you :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 20:04, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I can see the shading, the color's just too similar to the base color (so just darken the shading, in other words). Also, the link in the title of this section didn't go anywere (the "SC" had to have parenthases around them), so I fixed it up for you, if you don't mind:3. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 21:01, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I can see the shading, but I have to look very closely. You need to darken it.-- *Minn owc law*  22:58, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I fixed the shading and randomised the 'flecks' or w/e you want to call them. Thank you Hawktalon =) OT: Wow... you need a nickname and so does Mosspath as I already have Hawkey and Moss as Hawkfire and Mosswhisker... hmm... Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:55, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sandy (Can I call you Sandy) you can call me Mossy.-- Mossy SC  20:02, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

lol cool =) Of course you can Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:41, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I can't really say as I haven't read Code of the Clans yet, but didn't we decide that there wasn't actually a description of her in there? That was why my Birchstar had to be declined. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 21:46, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about that, but if not, can you add some highlights and blur the shading more?-- *Minn owc law*  22:06, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Petalnose (For Approval)


Hey there everybody! Long time no see. Does anyone here even remember me? I see there are a lot of new people here. I feel so old! Anyways, here's the first charart I've done in who knows how long. I hope my skills haven't abandoned me. So go ahead... How bad IS it? I think the shading needs blended a little more, but I won't do anything until someone tells me to. :) <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 19:58, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

the ear should be pink. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 20:05, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is actually really good! The shading looks fine to me. Great job! :) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 20:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Thin the neck shading. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 21:40, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Hi Goldencloud! *Nuzzles* Long time no see! This is amazing. The shading's so smooth... *drool* All I see is the the neck shading upward and thin the belly shading. Love the way you did the ear pink, by the way. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:01, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Goldie! :D I thought we'd lost you. Very glad you came back. Your artist skills are still as great as ever, I see. Real quick question, unrelated to the brilliant image: I have you down as a mentor (a lot happened while you were gone; see Forum:PCA Mentors/Apprentices Prgm). Are you going to be able to do that? I don't want to overwhelm you if you're just coming back. -- Bramble -san  22:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

<(0o0)> WOW! I have a petalnose, but this is SOO good!-- *Minn owc law*  00:32, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Cora (R) - For Approval
Well, after Hawkey withdrew her charart of Cora, I decided that I wanted to give it a try. To be honest, I'm not very proud of this image...did I get the nose color and eye color right? (I don't think I did...) -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:29, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little brighter and pinker.-- *Minn owc law*  22:56, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Don't know what you're talking about, Icethroat. :) The image is awesome. Just do as Minnow suggested and then I'd call her good. -- Bramble -san  23:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:56, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Brighten it more. It sort of looks gray right now.-- *Minn owc law*  22:03, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Bone - For Approval
He. Killed. Whitestorm. >=( Anyway, constructments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is pretty good! I feel the same way about him. LOL. For the image, his stomach looks bare. Try giving him a small patch.-- *Minn owc law*  23:11, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

How dare he kill Whitey!!! T.T Anyways, do as Minnow says, and I can't really see the shading on the black patches...or is it just my eyes.-- Mossy SC  23:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Happy to know we all love Whitestorm! =) But if anyone happens to not like him, I dare them to say so. *Hiss* Okay, awkward moment. Anyway, is this better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 00:11, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Now I see the shading, great job! Mossy SC  00:18, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I now that I said small patch, but can you make it a little bigger? 'Cause it still looks better. Also, I dare any of y'all to say that they like clawface. (Sorry about the y'all. My sister is watching Hannah Montanan.)-- *Minn owc law*  00:28, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

(lol) Eww Clawface! Yuck. Yeah, Minnowclaw says it all! -- Mossy SC  00:30, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

How's this, y'all? ;) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 00:32, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

lol. A bit bigger. Make it so that it goes above the leg line art.-- *Minn owc law*  22:02, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Shadowstar-For Approval
Well here she is! Not too proud of her, but any comments anyways?-- Mossy SC  17:53, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Humm I don't see anything

Sorry that was me! My computer froze then that's all that showed up. Icestorm Wanna meet in my nest? 20:15, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, haha. Hi! -- Mossy SC  20:16, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Humm.. I don't see any shadding Icestorm Wanna meet in my nest? 20:19, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Workin on it.-- Mossy SC  20:20, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded darkened shading.-- Mossy SC  20:27, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Okay umm I'm not sure but try lighing the earpink to a lighter pink but not too light. Icestorm Wanna meet in my nest? 20:54, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reupoaded higlighted ears.-- Mossy SC  20:57, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe thicken the shading a bit. -- Ashstar My Clan 21:27, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded thickened shading.-- Mossy SC  21:34, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Either thicken the shading or add a small highlight in the middle of the hind leg. Also, either thicken the shading on the bottom of the tail, or add a highlight on the top of the tail. I love your new siggie, by the way! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! My 2 fave colors!-- Mossy SC  21:45, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded added highlights and thickened shading.-- Mossy SC  21:53, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Add yellow to it and you'd have my three fave colors. :) For the image, the shading...is too dark. Try running the highlight tool over it once at about 28%. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:00, November 3, 2009 (UTC)