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Nettlepaw (A) - For Approval
My first charart! he needs ALOT of work, but i don't know what to do! help? -- ♥Shine star♥  23:41, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

A few things 1) The backgroud is black, it needs to be transparent 2)The image needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail 3)I can't see any shading 4)The ear pink only needs to be on the ear closest to us (His left ear) and it needs to be me of a reddish color--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:47, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

well this was the biggest size it gave me, and, how do you make the background transparent? -- ♥Shine star♥  00:03, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Click on the image on the main page before saving it to your computer. After you've fixed that, I can turn it transparent for you. -- Tinsel claw  00:37, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink is WAY too bright. Make it a more salmony color- run the burn tool over it a few times.-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! 04:34, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

wait, which main page? i thought this was the main page! -- ♥Shine star♥  14:38, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

wait, so you mean go back onto pixrl and color the background white? -- ♥Shine star♥  14:41, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

No, it means you start over on pixlr. I did the same thing. Save the base on your computer, go to pixlr and open a file. You might notice that the background is checkered. That is a transparent background, which is what Wiki needs. Maplefern 14:57, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

but when i did him it had a checked backround! when i had saved it and opened it again, it had a black backround! so i have to do it all over again? ={ -- ♥Shine star♥  15:22, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I think what the problem is is you saved the image on a jpg file. Redo him and then save it on a png file. --Silverbells Merry Xmas! 15:44, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

ok, i put the new one up, but i CANNOT fix the eye and whiskers! also, this is the biggest i can get, which annoys me because all the others are WAY bigger! can someone help? -- ♥Shine star♥  22:00, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Here. Try re-doing him again. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 20:42, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

It is at its full size. Maplefern 22:11, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

The blank is. The Charart is not. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 22:33, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Did you remove the '120 px'in front of it? Maplefern 12:08, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded now he still needs alot more help, but THANK YOU ICESTORM! your blank made ti so the eye was correct and the whiskers, and i didn't have to spend 15 mins going over the white spots like in my old blank. Help? -- ♥Shine star♥  19:54, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

You missed a spot whan you were coloring(his hind leg) and tabby stripes are usually darker than the base pelt color, darken them some. otherwise this is much better.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 20:07, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded again. Now? --User:Shinestar ♥Shine ]] star♥ 20:57, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Make the tabby stripes thicker. Also, save over the former photo. You don't need the older versions.--Maplefern 22:37, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Maplefern is right, Try re-doing the tabby stripes with a size 3 brush. Look at Graystripe's apprentice picture for help. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:37, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Also, maybe darken the earpink a bit. It is a bit bright. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!14:53, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

oh my star clan! i am soo annoyed! i can't find my nettlepaw file on my computer! -- ♥Shine star♥  21:53, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Did you try a search? -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 16:33, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

ya -- ♥Shine star♥  17:56, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Can't you just copy and paste the image from here?-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 18:10, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Uhh...you could just save the image to your computer again. (i think that's what Ashshadow meant.) -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:16, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it is sorry I wasn't clear.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 03:21, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I tried doing that but it comes out all blurry! -- ♥Shine star♥  15:58, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but it sounds like you'll have to start over.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 17:14, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, I'm already trying, just give me a little while to get a new one -- ♥Shine star♥  15:12, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, heres my new nettlepaw, now he needs more work but at least i have something to work WITH. Comments? -- ♥Shine star♥  15:56, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Make the eye like on my tutorials, and add shading, if it's there I can't see it. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 16:51, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i'll get on that soon, my big sis is on the desktop right now. and also, on this computer the tabby stripes look all bad, and icethroat, do you think i should redo my tabby stripes the way it says so on your tutorials, or the way it is already? and it sort of confuses me on the eye thing on your tutorials. -- ♥Shine star♥  00:19, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

please work on this or it will be declined--Echopaw 01:21, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Echopaw what are you talking about it was just updated.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 01:30, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

No, your stripes are fine! I'm not very good at those type of stripes, so I didn't bother making a tutorial for them, that's all. and the eye thing, each block is like a pixel, if that helps any. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 02:03, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, i'll get on it soon, its just that i'm at my cousins for New Years and i'm sleeping over there so my work is on my computer at home. I'll get back on him soon though! -- ♥Shine star♥  16:23, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Also, ice, when i do my new shading, (cause mine you CANNOT see) should i just do it over the tabby stripes or remove them, shade, then put them back on? -- ♥Shine star♥  16:35, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Go over the tabby stripes. The shading should be on both the stripes and the fur. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 18:53, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

ya, i'm working on it, its just really hard for me to do the eyes! i'll have a new one up soon though! promise! -- ♥Shine star♥  17:28, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

I am SO sorry i haven't been on! i just keep getting BOATLOADS of homework! and we have a science project, but i promise to work on him when i have time! (and i have sewing and CDD and science club, and well you get the point) SO sorry! -- ♥Shine star♥  12:49, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too red, and I can't see the eye color.-- Dark hallows 14:23, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

you might be right about the ear pink but the eye color for my computer is a very bright blue. Is it dark for anyone eles? -- ♥Shine star♥  18:12, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, now I see it, make it a little larger.-- Dark hallows 18:47, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

k, i made the eye like in icestorm's tutorials, and i made the ear more pink. How is it now? -- ♥Shine star♥  21:43, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see the changes, upload it under a new file (Nettlepaw.A.png) and then put on the old image. --  Icy -chan   ♥  21:55, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

bangs head on table* i am so dumb! i put up the same file as before! ok, so HERE is my new file! -- ♥Shine star♥  22:08, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Much better! :D Just make the ear pink smaller and blur the tabby markings. --Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 22:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Shinestar there's no shading, please add some-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:50, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

ok, i THINK i fixed it. Now? -- ♥Shine star♥  00:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, it might just be my computer, but I still don't see any shading at all. Look at an approved apprentice picture, or a tutorial for shading-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I have a few things to fix =)
 * 1) The ear pink is too bright and needs blending - look at Rockpaw, Bouncepaw and Tinypaw
 * 2) The tabby stripes need thickening
 * 3) Night is right also - more shading is needed. Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  21:14, January 16, 2010 (UTC) ok, i'm on it  ♥Shine  star♥  15:36, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this soon or it will have to be declined. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:35, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

um weird, we commented at the same time but all the same i'm working on him. ♥Shine star♥  15:38, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

ok, i messed up on the tabby stripes BIG TIME but i couldn't undo them cause i had already put in all those lines on the tail. Please help! He looks awful! ♥Shine star♥  17:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

also, i think you can barely see my shading. DX ♥Shine  star♥  18:45, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is better I just think this color is a bit strange for a cat. The earpink is to small and needs to be blured some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:50, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

k i fixed the ear pink but i don't think i should change his color. Anything eles? ♥Shine star♥  19:17, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

ok, something happened. The writing around my picture is all huge. Can someone help with that? ♥Shine star♥  19:22, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I didnt mean to change the color, sorry if thats how it sounded. blur the earpink some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

k, now? ♥Shine star♥  19:30, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I still don't really see much shading. I don't want to be rude, but maybe you could consider taking this down? It's not really anywhere near approval...

There is shading now, but it needs to be blurred, and maybe darkened? And add more stripes.  Dark hallows 07:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the ear pink darker and smaller. Icestorm Hi There! 18:22, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Molepelt (MC) For Approval
Did I go over the image limit? If I did, feel free to remove. I just did this for fun. Still waiting for comments on Ryewhisker. Anyways how is he? --:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 22:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Neat! I really like it. Maybe make the medicine stuff in his mouth a darker green, so it looks more natural. Otherwise, it's awesome! --CandyCaneWolf 23:15, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I love it Icy! But I think you should probably blur the shading and highlights some, especially around the neck. But it's awesome!--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:32, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

His ear pink seems to be a bit too bright - the shade is right, its just light. Highlights would make it seem like there's more shading, and the herbs would look better if all three were different shades(don't forget to shade them, too!). -- Quiet !... 08:08, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I had actually reserved him, but you keep this up; I still haven't got around to doing him anyways, haha. Also, merry Christmas! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:07, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

This is awsome! Darken and blur earpink and it should be good! Merry Christmas! 18:23, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with maple,darken and blur the ear pink. FirePelt  14:28, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Okay for some reason I can't get to pixlr.com. I'll try to get to this as soon as I can. Please don't decline! --Icy Let's Go 2010! 20:27, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Whole image re done. Why you ask? I just wanted to! --Icy Let's Go 2010! 21:37, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

LOL! Okay, I think you should probably blur the shading a little more, and the ear pink looks a little too bright. Try and darken it some--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 21:53, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. --Icy Let's Go 2010! 03:03, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the midriff, like on Bluestar's deputy image, or like on Molewhisker and Silvermask. Also, darken all of the shading. --  Icy -chan  16:14, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little too bright also - try a Rippletail, Whitethroat, or other darker coloured cat reference like Dustpelt or Swallowtail (RC) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  16:38, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:49, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I keep uploading it but it won't show up! --Icestorm HI! 21:28, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, here's what to do. Upload your new version under the file name Molepelt.medcat.png and then mark your current file with the tag. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  21:43, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I try uploading the new file but it says "Error" and I cant remember the other part. --Icestorm HI! 21:59, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

...try it again, I don't know what else to do since you don't remember what the entire message was, so try uploading it again and if it doesn't work try to remember the whole message this next time. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

NVM. I just uploaded a new file. Anything else? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 22:07, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the midriff. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:25, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''The changes showing? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 00:54, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little lighter and less red. -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 21:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is it ready? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:58, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink more, darken the shading, and the blur it Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:35, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 21:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still a little too bright. Try looking at Hollyleaf's image or Nightcloud's image. -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 20:57, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Huh, according to Tutorials it says that ear pink on a black cat would be red. I'll have to ask Bramble or Sandy. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 21:50, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

By red I think they meant redish pink. I agree about the earpink being too bright. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:57, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's a reddish-pinkish-grayish color. For examples look at Hollyleaf's kit image, Splash, Jet, Coal, Cora, Sloefur, etc. --  Icy -chan   ★  21:19, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Better? (Note:I blurred the ear pink as much as Pixlr would let me) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 21:41, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The color is much better :) But make it a little bit smaller-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:55, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

What smaller? To me, I think this is the smaller I can get. But that's up to you PCA members! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 23:00, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! *face palm* sorry, I meant the ear pink-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:02, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

It looks small enough, and the right color, too. Comments before approval? -- Bramble -sama  00:36, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rainstorm (W)-For Approval
(Yes this image is #36.) However, I saw my image for Rising Moon ready for approval and (yes it's me again) I put him up!!! My first mottled cat...Comments?-- NewYearPath Fireworks! Poof... 19:11, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

He seems a bit dark. Maybe lighten him up a little? -- Quiet !...  21:41, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

He, he looks a little blue to me. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Icy Let's Go 2010! 19:07, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

He's supposed to be blue.-- NewYearPath Fireworks! Poof... 20:54, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his haunch more.-- :) Mousetalon And A Mousey New Year!!!!! 21:25, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

The spots look a bit like a pattern to me, maybe try scattering a few more of varied sizes in an uneven way? Usually on mottled cats I see the spots concentrating toward the spine, so if you just sprinkle a few more along his back, it would probably look a bit more natural. <font color="#FF6600">★ <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included 15:58, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on for almost a week. Please work on this soon or it might be declined. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  23:51, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I have to take a short hiatus from working on this. Stupid homework. *Kills Pre-algebra.* So can someone decline this, and I'll put it back up later?-- NewYearPath Fireworks! Poof... 21:08, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

NVM what I said, I finished homework and my work for the weekend :) I'll work on this tonight.-- NewYearPath Fireworks! Poof... 21:13, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. yep!-- Moss I'm Up There!  22:46, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps make the spots a little darker. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  17:30, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, we can barely see them now.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:30, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Workin' on it, thank god death week is over ^.^ Moss I'm Up There!  23:29, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur them (the spots) more, please. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  00:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Moss I'm Up There!  18:06, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit lighter. And also, his eye kind of looks like it's the same color as his pelt. Could you make it a different color? Like amber or a lighter blue? -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 21:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded. Moss I'm Up There!  23:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot, it's hard to see right now. And then make the ear pink more triangular, and raise it up more Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is the ear pink okay? And I added more highlights to bring out the shading a bit more also. Moss I'm Up There!  22:48, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ear pink still needs to be lightened a bit. Try looking at Rippletail's image for reference. -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 01:35, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks, Sunny, I didn't even notice! Anything else? Moss I'm Up There!  22:41, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The color of his ear pink is much better! But, try positioning it a little higher Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:43, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Phew! Moss I'm Up There!  22:54, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:50, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blackclaw (E) - For Approval
Since there are a few images that are being approved/declined, I decided it was okay to post Blackclaw as an elder. Comments/Criticism? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 01:56, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

dodge the middle,cause i chan't see the shading now.-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  04:04, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. Anything other comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 19:20, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps darken the ear pink a little? More like his warrior image- Blackclaw--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 21:41, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 14:20, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 10:01, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 15:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little bit darker, the same color as his warrior image. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been touched in a week, please work on it or it will be declined Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:03, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can you keep this up for another day? I just installed Windows XP on my computer and I haven't transfered all my old information to it. I'll do it as soon as I can. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:White; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:LightGray;">Snowfall 09 03:12, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, done. Anything else? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:White; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:LightGray;">Snowfall 09 03:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit more, and then this should be good. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Stonefur (K)--For Approval


I finally have a picture and uploaded it but the picture won't appear. What do I do? WoodClan 19:21, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

1. Because it says Image instead of File.

2, xcf is not a um thing. Example png. Save it under png. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Icy Let's Go 2010! 19:27, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

My first Charart at last! I did this one because Stonefur appears as a kit in BP. What do you think? (Thanks for the help in uploading the image) WoodClan 20:18, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think he's a little to blue. Try to match the color of his warrior image.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 20:48, January 1, 2010 (UTC) I agree with Ashshadow. He needs to be blue-gray, like on his warrior image. (see here. The chest shading also looks smudged. -- ♪ Raven star ♫ <font color="Purple"> :P20:51, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Better. The title needs to say '(Character name)--For Approval'. Just so you know. Happy New Year! 22:42, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too bright and purplish. Make it a more reddish colour and blur. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  16:12, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-changed ear color WoodClan 21:43, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

It still is too bright- see Stonefur-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 21:55, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-changed ear color. How is it? WoodClan 22:46, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Better =) Just bur the shading and highlights and this looks good Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  19:31, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-blurred the shading and highlights some more. Is it ready now? WoodClan 01:16, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on his front leg still needs more blurring.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 01:18, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-altered the shading and tints for the front legs WoodClan 20:26, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look good, but they need to be blurred some more. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 23:01, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-altered the highlights WoodClan 23:37, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the highlights and shading need to be blurred-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:00, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

And the ear pink looks too hot pink, try making it a little more of a reddish color like his warrior image-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-altered the shading again, the ear color is identical to Stonefurs warrior picture WoodClan 18:08, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more and instead of altering the highlights blur this time. Sometimes after altering the color it blurs more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:07, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-blurred ear pink, what now? WoodClan 02:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight on his chest is too bright-try darkening it some. Also, blur the ear pink a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:40, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Tadpole (Ki)- For Approval
So this is my first cat up for approval. Any suggestions?--QuailflightTheCat 00:13, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Good job for your first charart! But the lineart seems kind of blurred... try doing it again with this blank: The shading looks great though! -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. That's probably my horrible shading. 8)--Quail 01:01, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

No, the shading's great! Tell me if you need any help with it. I'm fairly good at black cats. And you've took on a hard one for your first charart! Black and white cats are the hardest to shade - trust me, I know! Snowfur was my first cat! -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:06, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I know too. Before it switched to Kestrelflight, that section was Hollyleaf-who I'm thinking of reposting. Snowfern Snow!

Thanks, Batwing. I'm going to re-upload it, and make sure it looks better. I didn't use any highlighting, oh yeah, something's wrong with my siggy! :( 8|--Quail! Meow! 01:53, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Okay, I re did it. Hopefully this is a little better.--Quail! Meow! 03:00, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, I think Blackclaw had this reserved first, but I'm not positive. I'll check the history--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:22, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Acually Quail, I don't even see your siggie on the current project list. Did you even reserve Tadpole?--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I did. At the bottom. Sorry for any problem, Snowfall. --Quail! Meow! 03:31, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well it looks as if Blackclaw reserved Tadpole under the status as a rogue, however Tadpole was seen as a rogue kitten. You may have reserved him later on under the right blank I believe, but Blackclaw did reserve Tadpole first even if it wasn't under the right status. I'm not a senior warrior anymore so I think we might have to ask Sandy or Bramble about this...or maybe Blackclaw will let you keep the image up.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  03:55, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm....I didn't see Blackclaw's name on the reserve list, and no Tadpole, it should be okay.--Quail! Meow! 04:02, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, you only reserved Tadpole after I told you you weren't on the list. Anyway, Shimmerpool's right. Ask Bramble, Sandy, or Blackclaw--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 04:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Blackclaw is under a different name as they changed their for the holidays. It is Rainwhisker and the 6th user on the page. Check for yourself and click the link and it will take you to Blackclaw's page. I for one only have to hover over a person's name to see what userpage it will take me too.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  06:17, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Talk to Rainwhisker about it, Quailflight. I'm going to stay out of this one, because of her doing a rogue version when he's just a kitten. -- Bramble -sama  22:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

You can keep this up for approval, since I reserved him in the wrong blank and you got him up first, so keep it. I'll remove him from my reservations (current projects list). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 00:09, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks really strange, it's lighter than the pelt. The shading is supposed to be darker the pelt, not lighter. Also, darken and blur the ear pink. There are some white pixels on his front left paw, and the eyes don't really look right. Look at Icethroat's tutorials to see how to do the kits's eyes-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:53, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Blackclaw let me keep the image, so I reuploaded it. The file is Tad5.-- Qua il! <font color="Green"> Meow!06:54, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink and nose need to be a bit darker. People usually choose Rippletail as a good color. Also try to make the earpink as close to the same size as possible, right now his left ear is bigger than the right.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 03:30, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I changed the ear and nose colors. Anything else?-- Qua il! <font color="Green"> Meow!00:48, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay...I'm pretty happy with my charart....but I'll reupload it...-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!10:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-It doesn't look like I did much, but I was trying to make the ears a little lighter, and balance out the highlights. Any suggestions? QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!10:27, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'd personally advise you get rid of the highlights and just use shading on a kit. Thicken the neck shading and blend. Make the ear pink smaller and get a tiny size 3 brush to blur slightly. Also - take a darker reddish-pink colour such as on Crowtail or my awful image of Cloudspots ^_^ Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-lightened ears and nose, and got rid of highlights, as Sandy said.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box21:00, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks too hot pink to me. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:26, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, it looks more purple to me. Make it more like this- Blackclaw Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I tried to make the ears a little better.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box03:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a redish color. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 20:02, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-used more red in ears.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box22:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there's some lineart missing on the paws - check the kit blanks and replace it. The ear pink needs blending slightly (be carfeul not to blur the lineart) and the shading needs to be darker. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  11:48, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I redid the whole image, even though I think this is worst.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box23:56, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a lot more, and thicken all of the shading a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:44, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded Blurred and thickened. Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 05:31, January 23, 2010 (UTC)'''

The shading still needs blending and the ear pink/nose is too red. Make it a paler reddish-pink like Morningflower or Blackclaw OR a greyish-pink like Darkstar. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:52, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

star that shines on water-For Approval
i'm sorry to bramble by yelling,but i've got minnowtail aproved so this is the 2nd one.-- *Ivy  spring!!*  03:09, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

The mudstreaks look unnatural... make them darker, and disconnect the ones that are connected. The streak on the head also looks strange. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆ 18:51, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Just blur them and maybe smudge them a bit.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 00:17, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded i think its ready for approval,but thats for b,s,i,e,d,m&s to decide.-- *Ivy  spring!!*  03:48, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Add a streak to the top of her head, and blur the shading and highlights-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:49, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded-- *Ivy  pool~*  04:03, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on her haunch still needs to be blurred.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 00:38, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded,but i'm not sure where the haunches are.--.-- :) Ivy Hi 03:47, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I've circled the haunches-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:55, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

reyploadedthanks night!!i'm really proud of this.--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Dodge the muzzle, it looks flat.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 22:42, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:06, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks kind of flat, and the eyes look wierd. look at Icy's tutorial for help with that. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:14, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 02:38, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The streak that goes from the neck the past the shoulder, could you make it look like it follows the shape of her body more? Right now it's just there. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:34, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded!!!!!!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 11:36, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Dodge the muzzle a bit more, and blur the ear pink a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:46, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 11:12, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't like the way the mud on her shoulder connects to the mud on her body in one long line... perhaps separate it ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:36, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rock Beneath Still Water (CG) - For Approval
I know this is #41(whoa), but there's one discussion, four images in the 24 hour stage, and one to be declined. I really hate his tail. Why did Sharptooth have to bite it off? G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:58, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I really like the mud lightning, but I think the ear pink could be red, or darker. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:45, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, his stumpy tail doesn't look right. There's no lineart to indicate where the tail ends. Try fixing that-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:25, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I like the coloring, but I think the tail would look a smidge less odd if it stuck out past the body a little bit. Not a ton, because I know it has to be short, but the way it is now it almost looks like part of the body, so if you made it stick out a bit it would be more clear that it was the tail. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you mean. If you do that on a cave guard blank....As for the ear pink, I took the same colour which I used on Jag, as if I'm not wrong, that's the standard colour. If I am wrong, just tell me, and I'll change it. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

But Jag isn't the same color as Rock. I can barely see the ear pink on this one-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was looking at the tail in the wrong direction, but I figured out what the problem is after looking at the blank again. I think you just forgot to put the end of the tail in? It looks like the tail just vanishes... (Maybe it's my computer screen, since his fur is so dark) but I made a diagram to show what I mean. I think when you were erasing the tail you just forgot to put in a new end, like that. As I said, I'm on a semi-cruddy monitor right now, so it might be the screen not letting me see it, but... yeah... <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 17:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

No Insaneular, you're right. There's no end to the tail. That's what I was trying to say in my first comment.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The way you ended the tail looks odd. Maybe make it a bit longer. I dont really know how to describe what I'm talking about.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Ashshadow, can you make the tail a bit longer, so it overlaps with the front leg a bit? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

It is supposed to be a stump. And I don't think stumps are that long. "...whose tail was merely a stump."– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but maybe make the end more round. It looks to boxish-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:52, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

D'oh! Just ignore me, then. I was thinking just a short tail, not a stump. *fail* <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 12:06, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 04:05, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the tail is better. But his hanuch is bothering me. Do them more like this maybe?-

-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:52, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe bring the line down a little or get rid of that black pixel.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:09, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? – – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

There is a black spot above his foot. Either get rid of it or connect the leg to it. I can make an example if you need it.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 14:47, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:34, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more shading and blend it. The shading you have now has been donne on highlights right? It looks very... saturated ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:37, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Icicle (K) For Approval


Hi! This is my first charart. It's Icicle the kit from the Ravenpaw's Path Manga series. Please leave comments and stuff so I can fix it. Also, as an apprintice I want to say Bluestar's tutorial was very helpful. Thank you Bluestar! I had no clue what to do! This isn't very good but like I said, it's my first cat. Tell me what to do and thanks! May StarClan light your path!Artimas Hunter 19:14, January 8, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, first of all in needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail. Second, I see you've saved it in jpg format. It's a way better idea to save it in either png. or gif. Third, the background needs to be transparent right now it's black. Fourth, the eyes need eye white. Look at this for help--User:Icethroat21/Tutorials. Fifth, the ear pink is to hot pink, make it lighter and then blur. Sixth, she's supposed to be pale gray, with a white stripe on her forhead, a white chest, see here -Icicle She just looks white. Darken the gray on her pelt, and blend the spots where it's supposed to be white-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:23, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Glad I could help! Ok, go back and save it in your image program, but save it as a PNG, so the background will be transparent. You need to make the white mark very, very pale gray, and darken the pelt color. The ear pink looks too hot pink - see the chart on my tutorials for reference. He needs highlights, and the shading needs to be darkened/thickened. The eyes also need a glare (little white dot). See Icethroat's tutorials on how to do the eye. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆23:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits! I changed it so it fits both of your suggestions!Artimas Hunter 17:11, January 9, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Better. Now blur the white parts.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Artimas Hunter 20:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This looks good =) You need to blur the white a bit more though - try looking at some other patched cats to see how much to blur. Also, the shading needs to be a bit thicker and blended in more. Look at Applefur's kit version for an example as to how I would shade a kit. Be careful not to blur the lineart though. This is a great start to a first image =) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  20:30, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I think it turned out okay too. :D Is this better?Artimas Hunter 21:01, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This is really good but, darken the earpink a tad.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this is better? I'm so excited for it to be approved! I hope it's soon!00:05, January 12, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay sorry if this goes into another chart, my computer's got a problem, anyways here is Icicle again for approval. Comment back! I think she's almost ready for approval but I am kinda biased on the opinion! :D Artimas Hunter 21:42, January 13, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Hi! I know I'm being really impatient but I'm bored and no one has comented for days. Would someone have mercy and comment PLEASE??!! I want her to be approved cause I made 2 other chararts that are ready to go when she gets approved.Artimas Hunter 22:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

The highlight looks too bright Icecloud33  00:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''I think you're looking at the white chest and think theyre highlights. The earpink color still isnt quite right, try a color like Tess or Husker and blur it'''.The font is actin up on me T.T Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:42, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you soooooooooooo much for commenting! i think I was about to explode! :D I see what you mean aboutt the font.....anyways, here is Icicle revised! Ashshadow is right, she has a white chest not highlights but if those were highlights they would be WAY to bright! What do you think? I'm so excited!Artimas Hunter 01:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

- Okay, I know this is my own image and I don't normally give them as examples, but you need to make the shading thicker and darker and blurred. You could also use Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better?Artimas Hunter 23:50, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the shading some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:07, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Artimas Hunter 20:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Getting there =) Add some shading under the neck and on the face ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:11, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Thanks, I hope I get done soon! It's turning out way better then I thought it would!Artimas Hunter 22:11, January 21, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, now blend the shading ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sootfur (Ki) For Approval
I know this is the 41st one, but there are 1 or 2 join requests and like 4 with a comments before approval on them. So here is one of my favorite ThunderClan cats as a kit! -- Night whisker 9 8 Merry Leaf-bare! 21:36, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shding alot more please. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 22:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Better?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:16, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

abit more.And the shading near the left side of the head looks weird to me. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 23:46, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more and darken ear pink. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:violet;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 01:50, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, how's this? And FirePelt, what do you mean by it looks weird. If you could help me, that would be great.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:24, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, but the lineart is a little patchy, and the ear pink is hardly visible.-- Dark hallows 14:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Patchy how?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 15:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks blurred in some places.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Anything else?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, the ear pink is too large and barely visible, and theres no dodging. Otherwise, it's great! :D Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

I'm not sure about this, but highlights aren't required, although shading is, also I have blurred the shading to the max on pixlr, If you wanted to help me with the shading, that would be awesome, and about the earpink, what color should it be?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

You're right about highlights, they're not required. And as for the ear pink, look at his warrior image for help on the color- Sootfur-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:45, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Soory, but uploads are disabled. I fixed the ear pink color though.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:33, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuloaded. better now? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:24, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading on his hind foot. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:41, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:12, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this ok? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:16, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the lineart for you, as you'd distorted it a quite bit... other than that, all I really see is that the hind paw needs a little more shading on it's far end, and to blur the existing shading. Also, don't upload a new file each time; just upload over the old file name. -- Bramble -sama  02:35, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the eyes. They look scary. Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 06:43, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Scary How? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 13:46, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I think what Quaily means is that the eyes look sort of orange. I think. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading under the chin. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:39, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I used his warrior image's eye color, but i'll fix it. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenfur (Kit) for approval


Ok.... This is my first kit. I looked at the tutorials, and i'm not quite sure if I shaded, dodged, burned, and blurred right but..... I'm an apprentice, and proud of my work! :D Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Try uploading it on here so we can see the picture without clicking on the link.-- Nightshine Let it snow! 01:39, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I tried, but It didn't work... Do you think you could save it and upload it yourself? Swiftpelt 04:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Got it. That's a very interesting file name though-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred more, and... it looks a little yellow.-- Dark hallows 14:28, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the yellow spots. Make the ear pink darker and thicken the tabby stripes.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 21:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is like, hot pink. Make it like his warrior image-- Brackenfur. And the stripes look way to much like thin veins. Maybe try and make them a little thicker, or bigger, then blur them. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:00, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The ear pink is much better. But his nose needs to be the same color as the ear pink, or at least really close-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:49, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Nose fixed. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The Tabby stripes need to be blurred, and his pelt color looks a bit too orange, can you try and make it a bit more golden brown like his warrior pic? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 00:46, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now it's about as golden brown as It can get. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Look at his warrior image and take the colours from there. Snowfern Snow! 01:44, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I gave it better coloring. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Okay, the color is a lot better. But the ear pink looks weird, one's smaller than the other. Please make them as even as possible. Second, the stripes still need to be blurred some. And third, the eyes look... strange. Like maybe some lineart was cut off? Look at User:Icethroat21/Tutorials for help on the eye-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Eyes fixed, ears fixed, stripes blurred. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Add a stripe to each of the front two paws, blur the highlights, and there's some lineart missing in multiple places. Also, the ear pink looks a little purplish, make it more pinkish or reddish. --  Icy -chan  16:56, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded A else? Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The ear pink is too bright, make it more salmony. Second, blur his chest shading.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Look at his warrior image for earpink color and blur chest shading more. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:11, January 14, 2010 (UTC) Brackenfur

' ' 'Reuploaded' ' ' I think this has been up for about a week now. :O Swiftpelt 13:00, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the highlights on his chest and add some tabby markings to his chest. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:13, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Swiftpelt 23:05, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sasha (Q) - For Approval
if somebody has it, please let me do it!!it took me time.and leafpool;s for comments before approval, so i think its okay..-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, but you should either blur or burn the brown parts.. Then it will look perfect! Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The shading looks a little lumpy. Blend it more.-- Dark hallows 14:25, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Can you darken the brown stripes and other markings a bit? They look a little lighter then the rogue version... <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 17:33, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks AMAZING!!!! I don't know how you get approval cuz I'm an apprintice but you should get it!!!Artimas Hunter 22:37, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the belly shading A LOT.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  00:50, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:44, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it some more. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:07, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 03:06, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

She looks a little cross eyed. Try making the eyes like in Poppyfrost--  Night shine   ★  04:14, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightshine, she looks a little cross-eyed, but overall beautiful-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!04:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 02:41, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights across her pelt, they look lumpy Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:53, January 16, 2010 (UTC) reuploadedlalala!!i'm gonna see avatar!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Cool, I hope you like it :) And that looks much better. But make the ear pink a little bigger, look at an approved queen image for reference  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

i don't see problems.. anyway night,thanks for adding comments every time!:)--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 06:57, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt looks a bit smudgy - blend it some more. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:59, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 11:14, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. And just do a once-over with the blur tool over the whole image. Bramble -sama  02:26, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 04:19, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sorreltail (Q) - For Approval


I know, this is image number 43 (:O). But lots are in the 24 hour stage. Feel free to decline due to image number. Anyways, here's Sorreltail as a queen! Awesome cat in my opinion. Comments? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆22:38, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I thought I had her reserved?-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 22:39, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well, whatever. First, it looks nothing like her warrior image.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 22:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the very end of the back. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 22:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Mouse - nope, you had her reserved as an apprentice, and just changed it, if you look at the history, I had her first. -sigh- I can't make it look like the warrior image, not texture-wise atleast, 'cause I got the colors from the warrior image. And, you didn't need to post yours here, as it looks even less like her warrior image. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆22:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred back shading. Better? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆22:46, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I know, that's why I said whatever. I didn't mean the texture, I don't know if anybody can do that, I mean the pattern of her fur. But I don't care about mine. I used it as an example. But, the side of the queen is the same side as the warrior, and her fur pattern doesn't look like her warrior image.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 22:53, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Mouse is right, it doesn't really look anything like her warrior picture. Here, look-- Sorreltail-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:18, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

You should let Mousetalon have it. She reserved it first. This one doesn't look like her warrior image. The white is supposed to be on her belly.-- Nightshine Let it snow! 23:40, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Right, this one should be declined, Mousetalon not only reserved it, but also hers looks more like her warrior pic. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

HEY! STOP! She reserved it before me, apparently, and she could always edit hers.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 00:13, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

ENOUGH. If you get off your butts and check the history, you'll see that I reserved it first, Swiftpelt and Nightshine. I doubt you even looked to see who reserved it first. It's not your place to say things like that. Swiftpelt, you're a new user here, so please don't go around saying what should and shoudn't be declined. That's up to Bramble, Sandy and the senior warriors. Mousetalon had the apprentice version reserved, and changed it today. I've had her reserved as a queen for quite away. And about it looking like the warrior image. This happened with Lionheart as well, and I'm pretty sick of it. I'm not a copy machine, please don't act like I should be, 'cause I doubt any of you who commented could make a better one. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:24, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blue,calm down.  ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 13:27, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

And Swiftpelt, if there's anything that makes me mad, it's comments like yours. It's not your area to say this should be declined. Why don't you go check the history and see how wrong yoou are? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:25, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, It's just that they said it.... It's not like I meant to say anything against you... Sorry.... Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Hey guys, calm down. You can take this to your talk pages and discuss it gently. As for it not looking like her warrior image, wer'e just trying to go for consistency here. Lionheart was coming out very well, and it was your choice to withdraw him. Just get to work on her, and at least try to make her look as much like her warrior image as you can-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:48, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Swift : -sigh- Sorry, I just hate it when people say stuff that they have no idea about. Night : As I said, I'm not a copy machine, and it seems like you guys won't accept less than that: a copy. I'll try to re-do it, but then it will probally look even less like her warrior image. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:53, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Not trying to "feed the flames" here, but I think if you make her belly white and focus the black and ginger on her back, that could make it look a bit more like the warrior image. (I think that's the main issue the others have with it, but correct me if I'm wrong). I don't think they're trying to say that you need to have the patches PERFECTLY, just that it does look a bit odd with the patches on the stomach (although none of them said anything about how you should change it, so I can understand why it was frustrating). I'm sure if you just did that, everyone could calm down... I agree that this is getting very out of hand. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 00:54, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Bluestar, I didn't ask for them to say that stuff.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 01:00, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's not your fault Mouse. And I agree with Insane. If you tell me what to fix I'll be fine, but if you just tell me it needs fixing, I won't be that happy with you. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:25, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

If you look at the patches on her warrior image, you can see how to do them, that;s what I did.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 01:32, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Now why couldn't anybody have told me that in the first place? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:39, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - There, I completley redid her. Better? -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:53, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good. The one thing that I see is that the ear pink could be more darker so we can see it. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 01:54, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

That is better Bluestar! Blur the shading and highlights, and then maybe daken the shading on the white parts of her body-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:58, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Looks awesome, Bluestar :) That was what the people complaining were referring to, right? It was the only thing I could see wrong with it. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 02:23, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I think I made the shading on the white too dark... -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆03:23, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine, just blur it some more.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 04:20, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the white fur, I can barely see it. --  Icy -chan  14:47, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred shading. Icethroat, I don't know if it's just my computer, but the shading already looks really dark on mine. -- ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  17:16, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading. Also, the shading is dark depending on what angle you look at it for white cats, so make the brush size bigger and go over the shading you have now as well as adding some new shading (making it thicker), so it looks sort of like the shading on the white fur of Poppyfrost's queen image. --  Icy -chan  17:31, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? -- ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  17:37, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe blur the highlights on the tail.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:25, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the belly shading and on the fore arm and neck--  Night shine   ★  04:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

There is a shadow on the image.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:12, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - The changes aren't showing up... ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:09, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

...Ok now they are. Better? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  21:08, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yep! But it's kinda hard to see the ear pink, maybe lighten it some? And then that small strip of ginger color on the very tip of her tail could be blurred more Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:03, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I got the ear pink from the warrior image, but I lightened it anyway. Better? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  00:40, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the white parts a little. This is really good Blue. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaed - Meh, it looks too dark to me. What do you guys think? ß ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  19:36, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

No, I think the shading looks fine. Good job! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:05, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading a lot more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:48, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Declined due to user being blocked. Bluestar has given permission for this to be edited, should anyone want to. -- Bramble -sama  19:48, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

So, can I edit this image I think it is quite good Icecloud33  01:13, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry Icy but I've edited it and forgot to upload it. Should I change the title from "Declined" back to "For Approval"? Anyways any other comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:35, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's okay I wanted to do Lionheart's deputy image Icecloud33  20:21, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred all over, especially on the back. The transitoin is very hard. also add a little more shading on the white parts of the fur. Bramble -sama  02:23, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Since she won't be on for a month, will this be declined? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  19:46, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Icestorm's adopted it with Blue's permission ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:43, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

On her tail, can you put the black and ginger patches all on one side like on her warrior image? Other than that, this looks awesome. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:27, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfur (W) For Approval
I know this is over the image limit, but there are 10 with comments before approval (including Husker *Smiles*) and one problem thingy. So technically, this is 33 or 34... anyways... comments?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:13, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I am so stupid! I forgot to shade it!  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:20, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you can't lighten his fur even the tiniest bit? It's so dark I can't see the outline. Example: Blackclaw Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

To lighten it, I suggest you redo the image and color it a really dark gray that isn't so dark like the one you have. Then you can run the burn tool over it to make it look black. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 15:05, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Run the Burn Tool over the whole image?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 15:12, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

No, Blackclaw means (I think) That you should make the base color of the fur a dark gray, so you can still shade it, but it still looks close to black. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 15:51, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh... I got it now... Night whisker 98 Rawr! 18:09, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- this better?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:22, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is too thick. Thin it. Also, darken ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 01:00, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Better? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:29, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks weird, it's gray. Try making it the color of the following- Molewhisker, Blackclaw, Hollyleaf, or Nightcloud Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:32, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his back Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  14:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

How's This? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 17:48, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink, now I can't really see it Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:06, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The back shading is too thick. Thin it and blur it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:17, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks - For Approval


Ok here are the Sharpclaw blanks from left to right it short hair male, short hair female, long hair male and long hair female. What do you think? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

These are great! Maybe for the long haired you could make the face a bit shaggy.  Night shine   ★  01:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean like add couple lines like what on the chest to show the fur? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah.  Night shine   ★  01:43, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded how is that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 02:50, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, these are really good, but I think Hawktalon (Or Flamingomom) had these reserved first. The date says Jan. 11 Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's great! But I guess Hawtalon did reserve it first. Maybe these could be something else? But there is nothing else  Night shine   ★  03:03, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I guess you could ask Hawktalon if you could keep these. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:05, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Shot I looked but I guess I missed her. I spoke to her know I'm waiting to hear back. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 03:34, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I kinda dought Hawktalon's on right now. You might have to wait until tomorrow Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

i heard back from Hawktalon she said that i could have it : ) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 21:44, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thickin the line art for the features such as eyes and nose. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Really good! But maybe thicken the pupil in all the eyes. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 22:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok before I edit all of them here is what one looks with thicker lines on the featues and thicker puplis does it look better? Personaly I like the first ones better <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 22:19, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the pupils but I think the features look better. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I've got a few things. First of all, they all look kinda sad, like their whiskers are all droopy and their eyes are flat. Both the ears and paws are too round. Sharpen the ears some, and as for the paws, make them a little more flat on the bottom. And then their elbows look a little too flappy, make them a little straighter Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:13, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

ok how is this? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:33, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think the "eyelashes" on the females should be at a more horizontal angle--  Night shine   ★  00:43, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded like that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:55, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's better!--  Night shine   ★  00:58, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add a line at where the muzzle begins, like on the leader images. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:02, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Their backs should not be one equal slope, there should a small bump where the shoulder is after going down a little, then it down in the slope of the rest of thier back. You can look at sitting cat pictures for examples, such as this one: Link I know he's facing a different direction, but it's the same basic idea. Bramble -sama  02:14, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble's right about their backs. But also, could you upload the changes you made onto all of the blanks? It's getting kind of confusing-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:12, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Leopardfoot (W) - For approval
Evanphoto 12:35, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken shading. Snowfern Snow! 12:42, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:57, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:19, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? Evanphoto 11:46, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is way too small. Thicken it. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:06, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 00:50, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well, anything else? Evanphoto 16:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:31, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 20:37, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to her haunch Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 11:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'd make the ear pink a tad smaller, and more triangular  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:53, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:08, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on her legs farthest from us-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:17, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:23, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? -_- Evanphoto 14:54, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  14:58, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Birdflight(Q)--For Approval
Here she is-my first queen! Comments? Snowfern Snow! 12:45, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, that's really good...Nothing to point out...My prediction is this is gonna be approved in less than a week!-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!16:00, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are too light. Make them darker like the warrior picture. WoodClan 17:56, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

WoodClan's right. She looks nothing like her warrior image. She's to golden colored. Make her like a creamy brown. The stripes nedd to be thicker and darker, and the ear pink needs to be lighter. And also, the eye farthest from us looks very strange. Make them both like the ones on Icethroat's tutorials Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 18:38, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks Quail. Anyways, is she better? Snowfern Snow! 12:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. Maybe make her eye and earpink a bit darker. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:16, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all of the shading a little bit more, and make the stripes touch the lineart. --  Icy -chan   ♥  21:48, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Snowfern Snow! 23:17, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:36, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more, and lighten the ear pink to make it look the same color as her warrior image Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:54, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Night, I took the colour of the ear pink from her warrior image, and then I was told to darken it. Should I still lighten it? Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:36, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, maybe lighten it just a tad (I'm just going for consistency) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 23:08, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:38, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her belly and elbow more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:03, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I hope it looks better! Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:15, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The two stripes on the belly nearest the haunch look more distinct compared to the others. Blur them a touch for consistency, and maybe brighten the nose pink a touch to give the face more of a pop. Bramble -sama  02:10, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

haha sorry, that is an incredible use of the word 'pop' Bramble =P I agree with what you said though (for want of adding an actual constructive comment to this discussion) ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:06, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'll reupload it when I get home. Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:22, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 22:45, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:33, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sandy: I know, ain't it great? :P Comments before approval? -- Bramble -sama  00:35, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge (KP) - For Approval
nobody has him up plus i really wanted to do him so please don't decline this! Echopaw 15:09, January

16, 2010 (UTC)

He looks nothing like his picture in Cats of the Clans.Look at that for a refrence.And theres no need for ear pink on the farthest ear.Also,it's to dark and looks more like a acute triangle,amke it alittle smaller and blur it. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 15:16, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter whether you really wanted to do him or not, Shruggy (Brambleclaw14) has him on his current projects. I am going to decline this, sorry. People 'reserve characters because they really want to do them, and if you want to put characters up either add them to your own list before anyone else does, or discuss it with the person who has it reserved before you post. Declined for said reasons.
 * Note: nobody has him up because the blanks have been approved not 5 minutes ago.

Also - approval has an 'a' not an 'e' ;) Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  15:32, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sandy Echopaw can do him. the thing I use for making then isn't working (nothing is working :[ ) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:48, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, back up for approval. Sorry to hear that Shruggy. Echo - just remember for next time Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  15:55, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the patches looks odd to me, or is it supposed to be like that?-- Moss I'm Up There!  19:03, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty good, but i think it could use some more shading, and also, blur the patches a lot. The edges look rough now. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 19:40, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, that's not exactly fair. I reserved him, and I thought nobody can take your reservation. Plus: I did him earlier, see? I thought I did a good job too. :( Swiftpelt 19:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

When you reserved him Brambleclaw14 had him first.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw's reservation wasn't on there before the new Character thing. When I put it up there, nobody had it. Oh well.... :'( Swiftpelt How's the prey running? 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Shruggy definitely had him first because I checked when I removed him from your current projects. Sorry Swiftpelt. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  20:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Echopaw,he looks nothing like his image in cats of the clans.In it,he's a black cat with small white spots on various places.Look in that book for a refrence once again. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt: Give him/her a chance - it's only been a couple of hours; you can't expect everyone to edit an image that quickly. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  22:30, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I know,but still.For some reason I get paranoid on things like this.I want them to be as accurate as possible.Also,his eyes are supposed to be amber. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

thanks sandy and im a she! Echopaw 22:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and Cats of the Clans it terribly inaccurate in some images. I never pictured Smudge like he was portrayed in that book. But our chararts don't really have to look like their images in Cats of the Clans. Take Heathertail for example. She looks nothing like she's supposed to in Cats of the clans, she's orange with purply eyes. But her charart was done beautifully, the way she was described in the book. So, I don't think that should be an issue -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Smudge's base color is black. I guess you can replace the white with black, and the black with white.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well wait a minute, we don't know that. There are so many mistakes in that book that we can't be sure. I think it's fine if we just keep it white with black patches.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:27, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think we need to go on written evidence as we cannot be sure the pictures are entirely correct seeing as they were an artist's own impression of the characters and not Erin Hunter's own work. As long as the image fits the book descriptions we have of him, I think it'll be okay Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, as for the image. The eyes do need to be amber, as that's been cited from the book. The ear pink looks too purple, make it more reddish like this -- Bone -- Blur the patches more, and add some more shading to the head -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED sorry well here he is Echopaw 22:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The patches and earpink need to be blurred more.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED here is he any better? Echopaw 14:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Right now it looks like there's lineart around the patches, it needs to be blended between the black and white to be a gray-ish color. For examples, look at Patchpelt, Mousewhisker, Toadstep, Crowfrost, Cloudspots, Smoky, Floss, Fritz, or Splash. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:56, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 16:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The patches still need to be blurred a lot, and so does the ear pink. Also, there needs to be ear pink on his right ear also -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

No NIght, that ear is turned away from us. Blur the shading on his head. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be a lot smaller, so it fits inside the ear. Blur as well, like Night says, on all the shading. Bramble -sama  02:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded Echopaw 21:01, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still purple. Look at Splash to get the right color, and then really blur it. Also, the shading on his head still needs to be blurred a lot. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:29, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better! Echopaw 23:26, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Swiftpelt i took down your smudge cause it was really confusing me! Echopaw 00:39, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Patchpelt (A) - For Approval
Here he is! Sorry if this is WAYYY over the limit. Take this down if need. Anyways I need to do a patched cat to become a warrior. I want to become a warrior! Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 17:34, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Beautiful, all I see is maybe add more shading since it's really hard to see. Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Are the changes showing? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 17:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think they did. Blur the earpink some more adn darken the shading if this is the changed version. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:30, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 20:41, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anymore comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 19:11, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the tail. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 19:31, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken earpink a bit. I can barely see it. Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The patches on the hind leg look more blurred than the other patches, can you blur the others more to be like that, especially the one on the tail? Moss I'm Up There!  19:55, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

1. Darken the shading, blur all the little tiny edges of the black pathches, blur the black part on the tail, and darken the ear pink. This is really good! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:11, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 21:30, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still needs to be a little darker, so we can see it. Less of a pale cream-white, and more of a pink rose petal color. (I feel poetic today) -- Bramble -sama  02:07, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Sorry if it is not, as I mentioned before, broken arm. D: <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 22:33, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's better :) Try blurring the shading on his hind leg furtheset from us. Like, just run the burn tool over it a couple of times. It would give the image more depth Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:41, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is he better? I just want to get him in the CBA stage. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 22:53, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Don't push it for the CBA stage. The senior warriors, deputy, and leader don't like it much when you do that, from what I see. To me, it looks like the gray line you get from blurring it sticks out a little too far, of course, I am half dead right now and it might just be me though. Maybe look into that?  ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 23:20, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

I was kidding when I said that. I just want to work on it. :) Huh, I don't really get what your saying. Can you try to explain it better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 00:16, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

no worries Ice ;) FirePelt, I fixed your typos so your comment will make sense. I think what FirePelt means is that it's bene over blurred and the grey blurry bit you get between the black and the white is too big. I'm not sure I agree with that though - it looks fine to me ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:46, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

When I first got Stoneclaw approved I should have said I like to work on Chararts so much I want them to stay on the page. I don't see any blurred lineart if your trying to say that. But it's up to you awesome PCA members to decide. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 21:30, January 22, 2010 (UTC)!

Not the lineart - the black/white transition. Like I said, it looks fine to me. CBA? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  13:37, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Princess (KP)- For Approval
I used her Cats of the Clans picture for colors and reference. So, my favorite kittypet, besides Snowdrop. Comments? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  19:54, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It looks awesome, but isn't she a tabby? Also, her page says she has green eyes. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 19:55, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome image! Moss I'm Up There!  19:56, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken ear pink and her eyes are amber right? Make them more of a yellow-orange (thhat's what amber is right??) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 19:58, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

She's very pretty. (: But, she's a tabby, and her eyes are supposed to be green. (: ß  ą  է  ω  ï  и  ց  20:08, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Giver her tabby stripes an make her eyes green. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Have a happy Valentineღ 22 20:10, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

HER EYES ARE GREEN!!!

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry for bold text, but I needed to say that. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:12, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Added tabby stripes. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Her eyes dont look green in the image. Anyway add a tabby m and blur the stripes some. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:19, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Anything else? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:24, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is great =) Just add some more stripes to the top of her head and [our] right side of her face, and darken the ear pink and she'll be ready Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  21:02, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sweet! Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  21:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  18:02, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Add a couple of stripes to the head above the eyes. --  Icy -chan   ★  18:43, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Done and done. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  17:36, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on her forhead are too straight. Make the tabby M above her eyes. I'd google a tabby cat for reference. Also, there's gotta be ear pink on her right ear too. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:54, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:33, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Compared to the other stripes, the tabby M looks a bit cartoony. Maybe make it thinner? And the right ear should have ear pink as well as the left. This is really good! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:58, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

For the M...maybe make it less of a perfect M and more jagged, and blur it more. Moss I'm Up There!  22:52, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Add a few stripes above the M as well. Bramble -sama  02:05, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded! :) '''Did all of that. Møųş  ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:50, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a tad, and this should be ready! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:02, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded! '''Yayzee! Oh, I made up a word! Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  04:17, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

LOL. There are a few white pixels on her belly. That is probably her white underbelly, so blur them. Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:25, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred as much as possible. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  16:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval? --  Icy -chan   ☆  18:54, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Snowdrop(KP)-for approval
there's snowdrop! XD I'm pretty proud of this image so....comments?-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 23:37, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

You spelled Snowdrop wrong, but overall, pretty good! The only thing is I have to say is..nothing! I'm speechless! I love the shading!-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! But blur that little part of shading that's right on top of her muzzle -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:17, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded -- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 02:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks a little weird on the left of her back and the top of her shoulder. Maybe blur it some more.  Night shine   ★  03:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The right ear (our right) shouldn't have ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  21:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well acually, the right ear should have ear pink. Because the cat is facing us. The fronts of both ears are facing us also. I think the ear pink looks fine -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:43, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I guess that makes sense. Never mind, then:) -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  17:54, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I just checked the For Approval section for the kittypet blanks, and Quietstep said that the right ear (our right) is turned away from us, so it shouldn't have ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  23:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

But, that kinda doesn't make sense. The ear doesn't look as if it's turned at all. It's facing straight at us. Maybe we should ask Quiet?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

See the curve in the blanks right ear (our right)? Does it appear in the left? Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:38, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

er...I guess I'll let you decide on that first and I'll fix the shading now -Bracken-(not signed in)

any bstter?-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 02:15, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. But there is a little part right uner her collar tag that looks strange to me. It's solid gray. Make it white, and just darken the shading in that part-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:19, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Morningflower (W) - For Approval
There are 9 in 24 hours (either for approval or denial) and one declined awaiting archiving.

Constructments? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:10, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Wow Sandy you may have an obbsesion for Morningflower. :) I love this image! Just darken ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 15:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Nope =P Just thought I should complete the set, so to speak, to save anyone else struggling to copy my awful tortoiseshells ^_^ I'll see to all comments later so I can edit all at once. Thanks Ice. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:16, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I got bored so I reuploaded Anything else? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:35, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Your tortoiseshells aren't bad! In fact their great! Anyways I looked for 2 minutes and cant find anything wrong with it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 19:39, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I haven't found anything either. Comments before approval? --  Icy -chan   ★  00:31, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

It might just be me,but,the ear pink seems smal and it looks to far down,of course,it migt just be me being half-dead again. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 13:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, you're right FirePelt, but I think it's different from cat to cat... --  Icy -chan   ★  15:13, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

You got a point,Icy. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 16:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

So, do you want me to change it or not. I think it's just I blurred the top bit in a bit more than the bottom by accident. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Just blur the bottom of the earpink is what I think... Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:44, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps make it higher? It looks too low right now  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:59, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded finally. Sorry it took a few days - hectic real life at the moment. ;) ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:54, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

It's still low, but it's taking up more of the ear now so I think that it's fine. Repeating comments before approval? --  Icy -chan   ☆  04:51, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Cedarpaw (A) - For Approval


This is my first charart so it's not that good. ^^; How can I improve it?

Lotusfire 17:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

This is a really good charart for your first one,but,which ever Cinderpaw this is,they both have a apprentice charart.Im sorry. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 17:39, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt is right. Perhaps take the pixels from the eye and change the eye colour to amber and this can be Cedarheart's app pic? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:53, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, good idea Sandy :) Try that Lotus! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:01, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree.But s/he might have to change the pelt color,seeing as it is darker than the elder and warrior image. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 20:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC) 

Nothing the dodge tool cant fix. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, the dodge tool is like the shading tool, except it lightens. It looks like a little microphone. Get a large brush size and just run over the image a few times, and erase a few of the pixels of the eye to make it look masculine. That's about it. -- Bramble -sama  02:04, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I changed it, it might not be blurred enough, but how is it? Lotusfire 03:20, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

It still needs to be lightened a bit. Look at Cedarheart's elder and warrior images to get an idea of how light it should be - Cedarheart -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:23, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's lighter now, I'm still a compy art noob. >.<;;; Lotusfire 03:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Patchfoot (Ro) - For Approval
This will probably be the last image I post for a while, but, anywho, comments? It was my first rogue so I just winged it on the shading, I had the light source above him, although I think the highlights look a bit strange? How can I improve it? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 03:34, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Add color to the nose--  Night shine   ★  03:40, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Add color to the nose,and the highlights look fine.It looks like it's Sunhigh in the image! ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 21:11, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The patches don't look dark enough, make them darker so tha they're as dark as the warrior image. I like how you have the shading done, though. --  Icy -chan   ★  21:28, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded added nose pink, and ran the burn tool over each patch (except his head), is it any better now? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:56, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think so! But blur the shading a lot on his legs, and his neck  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:38, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, and blurred the shading more. It's hard for me to gauge how much to blur since I haven't shaded a white cat before, does it look better? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 02:37, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

A lot better than any of my white cat chararts. :) Maybe blur the ear pink just a tad bit more, and then this should be good. --  Icy -chan   ☆  04:50, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred it more, is it ready, or did I blur too much? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  18:13, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, I think it looks fine. Comments before approval? (By the way I just have to say that your new siggie is awesome. :D) --  Icy -chan   ☆  20:13, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Lily (KP) For Approval
I have been waiting for forever to put this up! These new guidelines have really improved pca :) Okay, how is she? I googled a real siamese and used that for reference. Comments?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:43, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks great, i can only see a couple things, one is that there's a grey spot outside her lineart behind her shoulder remove that. Also, can you make the brown patch on her face a little bigger (especially above the eyes), since right now it looks a little small, and to me it makes her face look squeezed. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:49, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Better?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:57, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yup, looks great now! I can't really see anything else that should be changed ^^ <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:57, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

that looks amazing! I just saw 1 thing though. On her collar the little tag thingie isn't colored in. Great job though! Keep going!Artimas Hunter 22:13, January 21, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Yes.It needs colored.She looks like a confused/mad.annoyed kitty! Amazing job. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 22:15, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Acually, it was colored, it was just light silver. I darkened it. And thanks for the comments you guys :)-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:36, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

This looks awesome. Comments before approval? --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:50, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The pupil is gray, make it black. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:02, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's black. I got the eye design from Mousetalon's Princess image  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:34, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Lionheart (D) for approval
(All but the tail and far leg are made by Dawnfeather) His tail turned out weird -- Icecloud33  02:23, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is over the image limit. Please take this down. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 02:25, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I thought the limit was 35 this is image 34 so ? Icecloud33  02:26, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

She has a point but i thought he was allready done as a deputy Echopaw 02:27, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Bluestar had him up but she withdrew him i think Icecloud33  02:29, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure his other deputy image was withdrawn/declined? And yeah, it's only image 34, so it should be okay. Not much I can see wrong with this image :) Except, add shading on his other front paw (the one that's raised, and in the back of the other) and maybe add a highlight on his tail? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 02:30, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

NVM. Thought this was 35. For the image, make the ear pink more pink not purple. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 02:31, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Um, Reuploaded and the ear pink is from the warrior image Icecloud33  02:35, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Why is he sitting on his tail? Try fixing that.--  Night shine   ★  03:35, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

And also his eyes should be green. This looks like a copy of the warrior image wit the tail redone.--  Night shine   ★  03:37, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Now that Nightshine mentioned it, it's not the right deputy blank. There's too much of his back leg showing, it should be covered by his tail. How did you get the tail like that? o3o <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 11:48, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure i will try fixing it Icecloud33  12:44, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? Icecloud33  13:00, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

You need to make his eyes green-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:46, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

His warrior image has amber eyes. Shoudn't we go for consistency Seastar  19:57, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

It does have green eyes (warrior image) anyway Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Lime;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Angelstorm Purr all the way! :) 20:15, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

When you copy-and-pasted, the lineart was off...try erasing the lineart that should be there (close to the ear and the head). --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:51, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

White pixle on chest,the lineart it weird nest to head and head,looks like he is sitting on his tail. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 22:47, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

His tail is fine. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:50, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Their is extra line art on places. Thinin it, and it should be good. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:01, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Timberfur (W) - For Approval
The section says it all. Blacky OMG 2010 IS ON IT'S WAY! 02:34, January 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Add a lot more shading, and blur it, also blur his ear pink. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 02:35, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Btw nice sig Insane. :) Blacky OMG 2010 IS ON IT'S WAY! 02:43, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to his chest, and blur it as much as you can-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded. Blacky OMG 2010 IS ON IT'S WAY! 16:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

better, just add shading under his chin, and round out the shading on his haunch, it's sorta oddly shaped. Also make his ear pink a little bigger. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:31, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Snowfur (K) for approval
First charart is this okay Seastar  19:59, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't see any shading. Look at some apprentice tutorials to learn how to shade a white cat-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:59, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfall, there is shading. I've learned a trick, when I look at my laptop from different angles determines whether you can see the shading on a white cat or not...Spottedsky, thicken and darken the shading and this should be good. This is awesome for your first try! --  Icy -chan   ☆  02:18, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Seville - For Approval
I thought I'd might as well put this up now since I'm going to see Avatar today. Anyway, this is my first kittypet:) Constructments? -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  20:01, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

D'aww, someone else put something up at the same time as me and now mine's over the limitD: Sorry about thatD: -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  20:04, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Huh, maybe make the ear pink more of a darker pink color,seeing as to me it's to light.I am Half-dead right now again so,yeah. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 21:53, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Yay, it's under the limit now:D Anyway, I fixed the ear pink (I hope). Better? -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  17:24, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. Maybe add a highlight on the front paw. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 17:59, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Added the highlight. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  18:10, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ice- For Approval
Okay, he's back up! Constructments? -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 00:33, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great. Just put a little shading on the ear, and blur the ear pink just a touch. -- Bramble -sama  01:10, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

It might not be necessary, but I think a couple highlights on his shoulder and haunch would make the shading look a little more dramatic :) Also, blur the ear pink. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 01:33, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 15:24, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a touch and this should be ready. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 17:56, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Fuzzypelt(W) - For Approval


Hmm.. what was I gonna say on this pic... oh yes; ultimate fail. =) Please, constructments? -- Bramble -sama  01:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe put one more tuft, right before his ear. No other comments then that. Maplefern Hi everyone! 01:11, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble three words: '''not ultimate fail. '''I agree with Maple, other than that I see nothing else. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:14, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I've been waiting to see this one for a long time. Ice is right: so not ultimate fail. He's really good =) The bit behind his ear looks too flat though, as Maple said. ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  13:27, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Stoneteller - For Approval
Here he is again.  Night shine   ★  03:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good! But wouldn't he have mudstreaks? I don't remember whether it said in the book or not-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure. It said in Outcast that he hardly ever leaves the cave. Would he need mud streaks?--  Night shine   ★  03:12, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good point. Let me check in Moonrise real quick... -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:25, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, it says right here- ''Then he spotted Crag again, emerging from the far passage and padding across the caave floor toward the tight group of forest cats. He was followed by another cat, long-bodied and skinny as a WindClan warrior. So much mud plastered his fur that Stormfur couldn't make out what color it was underneath, but his eyes were a deep glowing green, and a few white hairs around his muzzle betrayed the fact that he was older than the cats they had seen so far.'' That's from Moonrise, pg 113. So, according to this, he does have mud on him-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:29, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I added mud streaks. I don't think they look that great though--  Night shine   ★  03:54, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make them thicker and Darken them. Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with thickening them but i think the color is fine. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 15:17, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rainwhisker (A) - For Approval
I looked at the page number and saw that it was 33 and I was like, "OMG it's below 35!" or something insane like that. ;) Anyways, I've been waiting a while to put up an image, so I'm really glad to say here is Rainwhisker's apprentice image! (Yay! This is my second charart of my fave character! *evil laugh*) --  Icy -chan   ☆  03:05, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Looks amazing, Icy :D Only thing is that his ear pink looks a little small, either make it bolder or brighten it maybe? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  03:07, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

This is awsome! But, blur the shading a little more, especially around his back-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:08, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks Night and Insane. :) The shading was blurred to the max in a program with awesome blurring, so I tried lightening the shading. Does it look better? Also, the ear pink was already a good size, I had just blurred it too much, so I tried coloring it again with a barely lighter color. Does any of it look better? --  Icy -chan   ☆  03:36, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks fantastic! Shouldn't the Apprentice blanks be changed so that weird black blob on the foot is gone?--  Night shine   ★  04:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Woah! I've never even noticed that blob until you pointed it out! Well, we could talk to Bramble or Sandy about it-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

...for now, should I erase the blob? --  Icy -chan   ☆  15:02, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

For consistency issues; nah. :) Perhaps in about two years when warriors ends and we have NOTHING to do, we can go back and erase all those on all the apprentice blanks. Then we can throw a party. :) Image looks great, Icy. Comments before approval? Bramble -sama  18:23, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (A)-For Approval


Huh,Im not sure about this one,my second apprentice.I got his warrior image and copyed all the colors from that.How is he? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 15:35, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

He's really good Eechopaw!! Maybe blur teh shading and highlights a little more and you have to save the image when you do it with teh extension of ".png" you image is with ".jpg". Hidden -Valentine ღ  15:37, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Im not Echopaw! Im Fire! I'll get right to blurring the shading more. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 15:40, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 15:44, January 23, 2010 (UTC)'''

I wanted to see what it looks like with some highlights.Which do you lie better? Right:orignal Left:new ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 16:16, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

They're the same image, they both have the same file name. They are both showing the current version of the image, so I can't really say which one is better. --  Icy -chan   ☆  16:35, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I know they have the smae name.The one on the left is lighter because I added faint highlights,there not the exacte same image. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Gimme a Valentine Mouse 22 16:39, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

When you upload an image with the same file name, it uploads a new version on the file with that name, so they are the same picture, and since they're no difference I can't tell a difference and say which one is better. --  Icy -chan   ☆  18:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Nm then.Im still half-dead,so that might be the reason WHY i though they were differnt.*Shrugs* Anyways,what do you guys think about it? ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Gimme a Valentine Mouse |undefined 22 18:14, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

erm.. I think this looks fine, though the conversation above sort of confused me. Comments before approval? -- Bramble -sama  20:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt(A) - For Approval
I know this is over the limit, so please take this down if necessary. Well I personally love Tawnypelt, even if she was Tigerstar's daughter and some elders didn't treat her well about it. One of my favs characters. My second tortoiseshell and first apprentice for approval. Comments? Hidden -Valentine ღ  15:54, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight you have above the leg looks odd to me,it seems alittle too bright.But,Im still half dead even after I crashed in my cloths at like 8:00 last night because I've been tired all week.So,yeah. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 15:58, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh my StarClan, this is amazing Sunny! I think it looks fine, but that's just my opinion. Moss I'm Up There!  16:01, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks both of you!! And Firey I will wait for more comments about the legs, if you don't mind. Hidden -Valentine ღ  16:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

It's not the legs,it'sthe small hightlight ABOVE the legs that kinda bothers me. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 16:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh now I see it!! I'll go fix it right away! Hidden -Valentine ღ  16:10, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I darken teh highlight. Hidden -Valentine ღ  16:19, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Much better. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 16:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a reddish color like on her warrior version. Then this should be ready. Great job, this looks really awesome! --  Icy -chan   ☆  18:01, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Due to my just putting the notice up, this can stay here. Hiddensun, in future, don't go over the limit intentionally. :) On the image, great job. Icethroat's hit it on the head, so just do what she said and it'll be good. -- Bramble -sama  18:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Amazing job.Do what Icy says,and she should be good. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Gimme a Valentine Mouse |undefined 22 18:27, January 23, 2010 (UTC)