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Oakstep (Lo) ~ For Approval
Yay! I was browsing last night and found this! Then I resvered it today and made it in twenty minuets. Tried my best to copy it. Comments? Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  01:07, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Make the stripes you have now thinner and add more. Blur the earpink too. 01:08 Tue Mar 6

His elder is also lighter. No just highlights, but all over. Breeze whisker  05:03, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I didn't lighten it too much because I got the colors from the elder. Also I added a stripe or two and thinned almost all of the stripes. Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  00:21, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. ♫Purplemoon♪  Happy St. Patricks Day! Good luck!  02:08, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Make the stripes more "zig-zaggy" like the elder's image, and darken the overall shading. 03:19, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

The tail needs seven stripes, and you have five. Try thinning out the ones you already have, and add a few more in so it matches. 04:51, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Two hours....Two /hours!/ please...be nice to Sandy...  Sandy    I think   Daddy's   my slave!  22:58, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading and smudge the pelt into the earpink more, mainly the sides of it. Sky Molto bene 11:41, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded The ear pink might not look much different, but it is. And the changes might not be showing too. Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  22:00, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

The stripes really don't match. Take a closer look at the elder and try to copy that. 22:01, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Okay I'm working on a new onE right now. The earliest I can do is Sunday, since I have a girl scout thing at the Mall of America. All weekend long baby! Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!

Define and blur the shading. 19:38, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Misty, I'm redo-ing it so...no. Also I just finished the tail! I know I'm /really/ slow but there's about...13 more tests this week and one more tomorrow on monday. I /am/ going to work hard on this as much as I can but this is just a progress report. Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  21:31, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

^ Scratch all of that. I lied >:D. Okay this suuuucks! I copied it the best I could and then when I blurred it...fail  Sandy    I think   Daddy's   my slave!  22:02, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the stripes and add more stripes to the haunch and forelges. 22:33 Mon Mar 12

Define the tail shading. :3 23:29, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay I didn't darken the stripes because I took it from the elder. Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  00:07, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Define the stripes. 01:57, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Along the back, there's a lighter stripe there. C: 00:52, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes not showing. Also, Twi witch one? Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  20:52, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Where the stripes are supposed to meet the lineart, they don't. It just kind of fades and then you can see the base pelt colour where the stripes should meet the lineart...if that made any sense... 20:54, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Well I double checked and I'm sure that now there's nothing of the sort...I hope  Sandy    I think   Daddy's   my slave!  21:16, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

The stripes coming into the belly look like they are starting to get lost in the shading 23:44, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

First of all you didn't tell me what to do :\ and really? Hpmf well just tell me what to do about it :)  Sandy    I think   Daddy's   my slave!  00:45, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sand, don't cop an attitude. Define the stripes that are lost in the shading. Jeez. If you keep this up, there WILL be consequences. Your attitude is getting on my nerves. 00:47, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

You might wanna think about redoing the shading. There's absolutely no light source from what I can tell, it seems to be coming from all different angles, and at some parts the shading doesn't really make sense (muscle structure and shape-wise). 14:33, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Okay I'll be redo-ing this and I'll reupload on Sunday because I have this HUGE essay due on Monday and it counts for about 70% of my grade... O.0  Sandy    I think   Daddy's   my slave!  21:40, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sand, remember to upload soon. It's been four days since you last uploaded. 11:14, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I didn't redo it, but I made some changes to the shading and most of the stripes. Gonna get an A on that essay! Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  00:04, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

The stripes don't really match the elder.... Dan you darken them, ass add more, and just make them look more like the stripes on the elder? 14:01, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Umm, Paleh. Check your shading place again.... XD Also, Sand, darken the shading. 17:51, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Paleh fail!!! But anyways the stripes and the base are the same exact color because I spent 15 min originaly doing this just for the color. Also the stripes on the belly may look a little odd because I burred it. Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  01:40, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

-dies- not again.... DX And no Sandstorm, they are not in any way the same color, please change them. 14:03, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Once again Redone. Better now? Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  21:33, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Not really..... sorry but the stripe pattern and colors just don't match. 21:56, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Try this. I don't know if the colors will work, as this isn't shaded, but at very least this should help with the stripe pattern. 00:44, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded that redline is boss! This is why you're up there and I'm down here. Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  21:53, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Umm you should really blur the stripes. They shouldn't be pixily like that 22:00, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Ivy's right. They need blurred tons. 22:00, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Dx derp derp derp derp derp! Fail...okay I re-did it (probally doesn't look like it) and guassion blurred it now. Changes not showing. Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  22:17, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Um, Sand... you didn't even re-upload. I'm looking at the file changes, and there's two at 17:54 (my time) and nothing after that. 22:52, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been stalking the recent activity all day too, and you never uploaded after the first time. 22:54, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt up into the earpink. 07:03, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes a bit. 22:14, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Shrewtooth (Ki) ~ For Approval
Well...I just thought I'd upload it now. Comments? 08:18, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 08:25 Sun Mar 11

Define the shading plz xP Sky Molto bene 08:42, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Failed shading iz failed >.< 11:35, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded again. ^^; Sorry for missing that, Mounty. 12:18, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Are there any highlights? Lighten the whole thing just a tad. 15:11, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

And make his nose grey. 18:31, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 07:42, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and no, there are no highlights. I'd rather keep the color the way it is, since I colorpicked from his warrior, unless someone else agrees with Woo. 07:45, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I think you should lighten it just a little bit, so I agree with Woo XD. I am Your worst nightmare  16:54, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think there should be shading on the eyes. 20:01, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Rowan, shading placement is artist's choice. 20:08, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Lightened him up a bit ^^ 07:44, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Add shading to the tail and make the earpink more triangular. ♫Purplemoon♪  Happy St. Patricks Day! Good luck!  22:53, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:08, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 15:43, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Also, can you lighten up the shading a bit? 08:33, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Dazzle, you still working on this? 08:02, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

xD *forgot about this* Reuploaded. 23:43, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Rogue Blanks - For Approval
So I'm starting with him first. Comments for improvement? 00:08, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I think the heel on the back legs should jut out a little more. Also, add the dew claws (optional), and the toes should also jut out a little more, a little like this. 00:30, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

The back leg closest to us looks broken, move it in more. 00:38, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe make a line to mark the inner ear, slope the forehead down to the muzzle a bit more, and maybe make the neck a bit longer? This is cool! :) 01:09, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Could you post all the blanks? And round out the front of the muzzle a bit, it's really boxy. 01:41, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I stand by my comment that they'd look better with claws sticking out, since they are rogues after all. It is optional, but in my eyes, it'd be better 02:13, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but unless they had dog claws/teeth on them (still not sure how the BC cats got them to stay on), they wouldn't be very visable... Look at them. They're small, thin, and curve in when they're out and the cat isn't sticking them into something (which causes the claws to draw out more). 02:21, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lower the back part of the neck every so slightly, and if it's a rogue, maybe make its back arched like this guy. 07:38, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Also, shouldn't he be white, like the other blanks? 18:09, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

It just means the blank is transparent. It's fine, Bluestar. 20:08, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

Though the other blanks are filled in with white, Cloudy. We'd have to make them transparent also if we leave this one as it is. 20:46, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

This is nice but the tail should probally go up about 15 degrees or so. Also shouldn't you post all four like the Prey Hunter and the Loner and the Apprentice blanks? Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  00:14, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

She doesn't have to for one. I found it way easier to work with one until there wasn't very many major lineart changes. It takes awhile to do longhairs and to have to redo them every time there is a major tweak is hard x.x make the neck a tad longer. 00:27 Tue Mar 13

@LeafstrikeAsakura, Right now, I guess it can stay transparent. Oblivion can add it later, and if the blanks are approved with transparency instead of white, it isn't much of a big difference, for users could still fill in color in the blanks. I guess it could be added later, when the images are approved. 04:39, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so since I'm away without my laptop, I have no way of uploading this, but I do have a few things to say. First of all, Leafstrike, it does have few claws, but cats don't have them on their back feet. Everyone else, I won't upload all four; Mounty said all I needed to say. And it's transparent. Big deal. I completely didn't realize it upon uploading, and the next time I change it the body will be white. Oh, and bear with me for the little changes; there are only so many pixels available to me and it's hard to make little changes on such a small image. 21:22, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Uhhh... Loon? Cats do have claws on their back feet... in fact, the claws on the back feet are longer and don't retract. 21:28, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Also, you have hundreds of thousands of pixels at your disposal. I advise you make the changes suggested if you want to get these things done any time soon. 21:32, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Lol Shelly, that picture xD Anyway, sorry for the typo. I meant to say dew claw. Cats don't have them on their back feet. And about the pixels: what you say is true, but for a certain area it's hard to do. The paws, for instance. I can only make them so big or so small in a certain direction before it looks stupid. But you're right, I need to do it, obviously. No computer until Tuesday though. 21:37, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't say to add dew claws on the hind legs. 04:17, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Well, I thought that's what you meant since he does have one on his front. 13:53, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Just throwing this out there, Loonie's gonna be gone till tuesday, but I think we should make an exception and not decline these. Also, can we make the time limit before a charart is declined 2 weeks for blanks? Especially since we voted on them and all. 01:16, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think there should be a limit on blanks. Not because I'm going to poof on you guys and go AWOL for a month, but because no one else will be able to replicate the blank. 01:34, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Loonie, it's fine. Take as along as you need. We're not in any rush to get these done, last I checked. And if we are, those users need to calm their horses and wait. We realize you have a life. XD 01:36, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Can you define the elbow on the left foreleg, and move it up a bit higher on the leg to be aligned with the abdomen/chest, because that's how it is on a cat. 23:15, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Could you straighten the back leg closest to us because it looks a bit crooked and broken. 16:44, March 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's how a cat's back leg looks, Cinder. 16:49, March 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh. My Bad. Sorry Oblivion. 17:04, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure if this has been said before but the ear on <--- that side make it a pixl or two thicker because it looks quite thin and it doesn't match the rest of the lineart. Also make the little line on the down <--- left paw thicker. Do you know what I'm talking about? Sandy   I think   Daddy's   my slave!  00:04, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, with Shelly's help, I've identified what I should and should not do. 19:05, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Move the eye forward and round out the front of the muzzle to resemble the warrior blank. 19:08, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How's this? 19:21, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

The front paw farthest from us looks slightly squished; can you make the place where the paw meets the ankle-thing a little more corner-y? *can't explain* ♫Purplemoon♪   Happy St. Patricks Day! Good luck!  21:06, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

The tail looks broken, possibly smooth the curve out on the tail? Also, shorten the tail a bit. 21:25, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Purplemoon, I think I know what you mean. The paw furthest away doesn't look the same as the other paws since they're a bit rounder, so round out the top of the front paw furthest from us ^^ 00:52, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

The muzzle doesn't look quite right. Try smoothing out the area between the brow ridge and the bridge of the nose. 00:57 Thu Mar 22

Re-uploaded. Dat muzzle. 01:51, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

This is just my opinion, but it doesn't quite give off the more wild sense of a rogue verses a loner. Maybe stretch the neck out, flatten the ears, and bear their teeth. Maybe also bring one of the forepaws into a striking position. If you disagree, feel free to ignore this. 02:24, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Scarlet. That's why I voted no change in the second round, that was one of my reasons, that none really looked like a rogue in terms of their stature (no offense meant at all). You are free to disagree but I think you should at least try it to see how it looks. 17:19, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

You both make good points, but there's one thing I want to discuss: he doesn't "look like a rogue". I get that you think rogues are aggressive, and would look more so with flattened ears, bared teeth, etc., but by that logic, the warrior should be doing something warrior-like. The warriors just look like a cat sitting down. Same with the leaders, deputies, sharpclaws, cave-guards, kittypets, and any others I may have forgotten. If you haven't been exposed to our images, none of them may look like the rank you think they're supposed to look like. Let's say you've come to the site for the first time, and you take a look at Thistleclaw's image. Not going off the image, just the blank itself, how does that look like a warrior to you unless you know he's a warrior? I don't think my image has to "look" like a rogue, since none of the other images do.

In addition, rogues aren't always going around terrorizing other cats, are they? Let's take Sasha for an example. While she didn't exactly leave the Clans alone, she never killed/kidnapped any of them, never took their prey, and never got into a fight. The image should be unbiased in that it doesn't look like the cats are "doing" anything.

Now, that's just my opinion. Feel free to disagree/shoot me down. 19:09, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

I think baring the teeth or looking like it's trying to start a fight would be over doing it a lot. All it really needs is to look like it's ready to defend itself (like my proposed blanks did). A slight arch up in the spine, a bend at the legs. Nothing too dramatic. 19:35, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I'm much to lazy to see if this was mentioned or not already, but make the legs farthest from us a bit shorter than the ones closer to us, so it doesn't look like it's one a tightrope. 20:35, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

I think the pose is fine its like the old one, just lower the tail a little or straighten it out. 01:36, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 22:22, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Lovely! Make the hock a bit shorter, and make the whole back legs curve a but smoother. Also, make the neck longer, and chest less square-ish. 22:26, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ._. 00:47, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Graystripe (Alt. A) - CBA
He was mentioned in Into the Wild with Black paws, and that's the same situation as Tigerstar, so he should get an alt. I don't actually have the book to check what rank he is on that page, but since he's an apprentice most of the book, I'm going to assume he was one, unless someone tells me otherwise. Comments? 14:27, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and yes I noticed I names it wrong again. I'm kinda out of it, sorry. XD I'm gonna ask Teldy to rename it. 14:27, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can you lighten up the whole image a tad, and blur the earpink? 16:08, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can you define the ear pink, as well as what Stone suggested? 07:30, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Also, (it could just be the effect of how dark the image is), but it seems as if the shading has some sort of neon hue to it, but also, it could be just me, if you can, can you try fixing that? 23:10, March 16, 2012 (UTC)

Okay the whole thing looks black...and the ear pink needs to blurred then smudged into the ear. Are you working on this still? It's been about five days...  Sandy    I think   Daddy's   my slave!  00:06, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Sand, please don't repeat comments. It's already been said that the image is too dark, earpink needs to be blurred. Also, the fur is already smudged into the ear... 06:26, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Sorry for the wait, I was being lazy this week. ^^; 20:44, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

CBA? 08:04, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Minnowtail (Alt. A2) ~ For Approval
I think I made her too dark >m< I shall fix that.... Anywho, she was described with a dappled pelt~ Comments? 23:14, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Define the earpink, especially on the back ear. I love it! 8DDD 23:17, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded, changes arent showing :c 00:08, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Define the nosepink. Looks pretty! 8D 08:13, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading on the face just a tad. Nice job, Fallow. 11:15, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Beautiful, Fallow! C: Define the earpink. 14:47, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ Thanks everyone ^^ 16:58, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the belly a tiny bit? :3 04:14, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the face, too. ♫Purplemoon♪  Happy St. Patricks Day! Good luck!  11:23, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Flametail (Kit alt.) ~ Under Evaluation
Okay. My first one ever. *crosses fingers* ϚίĿʋεʀϝƪσώȅƦ ♥  Live  like  there's no  tomorrow!  ♥  14:38, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Why exactly does he need this? There's nothing in his trivia. 15:17, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

"Flametail is first described as a dark ginger tom, though this is later changed to bright ginger." My bad if he doesn't need an alt... ϚίĿʋεʀϝƪσώȅƦ ♥  Live  like  there's no  tomorrow!  ♥  16:17, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

He might, I'm not 100% sure though. If this does stay, please add stripes since he is still described as ginger. 16:49, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

If he was first described as dark ginger then his current one should be changed and he would bet an alt for being bright ginger. 17:36 Tue Mar 20

So you're saying that his current image should be dark ginger and he should have a bright ginger alt? ϚίĿʋεʀϝƪσώȅƦ <font color="red" style="background:none;">♥ <font color="blue" style="background:none;"> Live <font color="purple" style="background:none;"> like <font color="blue" style="background:none;"> there's no <font color="purple" style="background:none;"> tomorrow! <font color="red" style="background:none;">♥  20:21, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

In this case, I don't think so. Bright ginger is the most used description, with dark ginger only being used once. It's not like Willowshine, who only shifted a single shade to accomodate her original description into her current one. I think he should remain bright ginger, and he should recieve a dark ginger alt kit, as he was a kit when he was called dark ginger, not a medicine cat apprentice. Also, said kit image will need stripes. 20:30, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think he should get any alts for this, it's way too close in my opinion. There's so little difference bright ginger and dark ginger, I really do think it'd be silly. 20:38, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

I dunno, Paleh. We did agree before that alts could be given for a color shift of more than one shade, and bright ginger to dark ginger would fit that criteria. 20:41, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. So should I make a dark ginger alt kit with stripes now, or is it still in consideration whether I can make an alt for him or not? ϚίĿʋεʀϝƪσώȅƦ <font color="red" style="background:none;">♥ <font color="blue" style="background:none;"> Live <font color="purple" style="background:none;"> like <font color="blue" style="background:none;"> there's no <font color="purple" style="background:none;"> tomorrow! <font color="red" style="background:none;">♥  23:10, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw it is the same Color but different shade, and I think the guidelines say that wouldn't get an alt. not sure... Also Silverflower yes change it to a dark ginger kit, just in case it stays. 23:15, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

I'm with Shelly on this. Bright ginger is like Lionstar and dark ginger is like Rowanclaw it's a pretty big difference. 23:22 Tue Mar 20

Alright, I changed it. ϚίĿʋεʀϝƪσώȅƦ <font color="red" style="background:none;">♥ <font color="blue" style="background:none;"> Live <font color="purple" style="background:none;"> like <font color="blue" style="background:none;"> there's no <font color="purple" style="background:none;"> tomorrow! <font color="red" style="background:none;">♥  23:56, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Well usually when it changes more than one shade, for instance, from dark brown to light, it's is a big difference. But look at this; When I searched "Bright ginger cats" most of the results I got looked like this, but when I searched "Dark ginger cats" I got mostly. There's very little difference between the results I got, and I really don't think this should get an alt. 00:33, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Honestly, I think that if Lionstar is described as "bright ginger," and Rowanclaw is described as "dark ginger," and there is a drastic difference between their chararts, like Mountain said, then Flametail could get an alt. But I don't know, that's just my opinion. ϚίĿʋεʀϝƪσώȅƦ <font color="red" style="background:none;">♥ <font color="blue" style="background:none;"> Live <font color="purple" style="background:none;"> like <font color="blue" style="background:none;"> there's no <font color="purple" style="background:none;"> tomorrow! <font color="red" style="background:none;">♥  13:08, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Lionstar is only described as ginger, not bright ginger, and his charart is actually pale ginger if anything. The difference is because it's the artists choice on the shade for the most part, however just cause two artists choose completely different colors out of personal preference, it does not mean that there should be an alt for those colors. 14:00, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

How about Sunstar then? Look, Paleclaw, we need to be consistant here. And we've consistantly agreed that if the coloring on a cat changed more than one shade they get an alt. If you think it should change, propose it on the talk page and put this charart on hold until a decision is reached. That way more than just the few people that come look here will be inclined to give their input. 14:36, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

We also consistently agreed that synonyms don't get alts, and looking at the image results on this, I believe Dark ginger is pretty much a synonym for Bright ginger, and therefore this shouldn't get an alt. 20:56, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Again, take it to the talk page, Paleh. Seriously, I think that we should get project consensus on this. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just think we ought to see what everyone thinks. 21:00, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

The stripes look a little thick, thin them out and add a few more. Define the shading on the legs. 00:34, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well, honestly this is good, only try to make stripes more like on the apprentice's charart. its easy. just take the smudge tool and smudge the stripes in the zig-zag lines. ,18:43,March 22,2012 (UTC)