Talk:Longtail/Archive 1

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 * Completed first part of history in Into the Wild Cremestar 00:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Apprentices
What? It says Ferncloud was his apprentice, but wasn't Dustpelt her mentor? People stress that she was Dustpelt's apprentice. Cloverfang 02:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Dustpelt was NOT her mentor. He WANTED to be, when Darkstripe (her first mentor) was exiled, because he liked her. Firestar didn't let him take Fernpaw because he was already mentoring Ashpaw, but he assured Dustpelt he would get her a good mentor, who was Longtail.

Ok, thanx! Cloverfang

Ear
Didn't he have a torn ear? Sparrowsong 00:09, October 12, 2009 (UTC) Yes he did Fireheart tore it as an apprentice in Into the Wild Icecloud33 00:04, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

We aren't supposed to have spoilers above the spoiler tag, so I removed his blindness from his description. Sparrowsong 20:12, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Um, Sparrowsong YOU JUST SPOILED IT! You are a spoiler. Anyway, in "Into the Wild" Graypaw said to firepaw "you defenity spoiled his good looks." Icecloud in "Into the Wild fireheart was firepaw. at the end of the book firepaw was named Fireheart. Sorry to correct you Icecloud. So, did you even read "Into the Wild"? if you didn't, read it. then you will get you're facts right. Swallowstream 15:05 May. 18, 2010

Please don't be rude, Swallowstream. What you said was really rude. -- Icestorm Peace 21:19, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

That was really uncalled for Swallowstream, everybody is allowed to mess up, we all are human. (At least I thought ...) Go ShadowClan! 02:54, June 19, 2010 (UTC)Dappleclaw

he isn't that young
longtail is almost as old as mousefur but the Erins still keep saying he is so young and fit because if he is old then sandstorm,dustpelt,graystripe and firestar are old.

I thought he was supposed to be a bit older than them; after all, he was already a warrior when Firestar (Rusty) joined the clan. Sandstorm, Dustpelt, Graystripe, and Firestar were all apprentice-age then. But he's not elder-age, yet; remember, he's only retired because of his failing sight. --Russetstripe 03:17, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

He is still very young because he had been a warrior for two moons when Rusty joined ThunderClan. Which makes him only about four moons older than Sandstorm, Dustpelt, Graystripe, and Firestar. Please sign your name at the end of each post on a talk page. --Whitestorm17 03:24, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

It's weird because in the books it keeps saying that Mousefur is older than Longtail but she was a warrior after him in the Into the Wild alliegiences.-- Nightshine Let it snow! 21:25, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The Allegiances don't go in order of age. We know that she's older, because he was a new warrior at the beginning of ItW, and she had already been a warrior for quite some time. BP also shows this. ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ ☚

I just read Into the Wild, and it reveals that he was made a warrior two moons ago. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:17, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, they're not really that close. Longtail, as said already, was only a warrior for 2 moons before Into the Wild, but Mousefur is older than Mistystar. -- Gοlδεnpαω A p p a r e ! 02:00, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

And a BIG part of it might be the fact that he was forced to retire while Mousefur retired of old age. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 20:19, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

He's not as old as Mousefur, because Mousefur was an elder of old age when he was only a young warrior. But in either The Fourth Apprentice or Fading Echos, Jayfeather mentions thats he's not as young as he used to be. -Mallie

Longtail was a young warrior at the beginning of the series. When he had to retire, he was a senior warrior. Anyway, this should be taken to the forums. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 01:24, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Longtail's kin
does anyone have and theories on who longtail's kin are I personallythought that he was the kit of speckletail because aren't they both pale tabbies. so could that potentially mean that lionheart,goldenflower and longtail are all kin?? Fawnfur 15:26, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's possible, but we can't assume it. ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ ☚ 20:17, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

i think vicky says patchpelt and willowpelt have longtail and graystripe but patchpelt and willowpelt are siblings so.............

On the OFFICIAL Warriors website, it says that Dappletail's Daughter's are Willowpelt and Spottedleaf, Patchpelt isn't Willowpelt's brother as far as im concerned, and Longtail and Graystripe Half-Brothers, they have the same father (yes, Patchpelt) but Willowpelt is only Graystripe's Mother, and btw it doesnt say who Longtail's Mother is Srry!

It has been confirmed MANY times that the official site's trees are not 100% correct. Therefore, we can't trust anything the say that hasn't been otherwise confirmed. Like Longtail's kin. insaneular   Talk  19:40, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I wrote what it said earlier about on the official website yatayatayata, and anyways, i think ur right, there NOT %100 true because im reading Bluestar's Prophocy and it says that Swiftbreeze is the mother of Redtail, Willowpelt, and Spottedleaf, and she is also the mother of Patchpelt and Leopardfoot. Adderfang is the father of Patchpelt and Leopardfoot, but im not sure of the father of Red, Willow, and Spotted. I'm not there yet, i just like flipping thou the pages and reading ahead, (heehe=D) but maybe they have different fathers. I dont think that Long and Gray were littermates thou, because Long had been a warrior 2 moons before Firestar came to ThunderClan, and Gray was still an apprentice, well, thats all i can say reallyy, hope dat helps! ^_^♥

Longtail isnt Lionheart and Goldenflowers kin. He was born way after Lionheart and Goldenflower70.137.137.184 23:34, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

color
Is he a brown tabby or silver? I've seen a lot of people draw him as brown but in one of the first arc books it said something about his fur being silver...

Other than that, I don't think it specifies. Did Erin Hunter say anything about it?

It says that he is a 'pale tabby with black stripes', so theoretically, he could be pale brown or pale gray, but personally I've always pictured him as brown... insaneular   Talk  16:30, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Under longtails names it should say that he was called longkit when he was a kit and longpaw when he was an apprentice. This is obvious. Can someone put it up. Clara My Talk Page 13:20, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

It's not obvious; it's possible that he had a name change at some point. Also the name list is to denote ranks they have been seen as, and he was never seen as a kit or apprentice. insaneular   Talk  19:40, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. What insane said. Halftail was formerly Sparrowpelt, but I think Bluestar or Sunstar...? I don't know but changed his name. Willowpool 00:54, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

I always thought he'd look a little like this: http://artfiles.art.com/5/p/LRG/21/2143/11BCD00Z/jane-burton-domestic-cat-young-tabby-point-siamese.jpg  Dark hallows 07:20, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Rising Storm, pg 268, Fireheart could just make out Sandstorm's pale ginger flank, rising and falling steadily next to Longtail's silver tabby back. silver  squid   {  m e  o w    ! } 09:59, April 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just to add on: RS pg 306, (Erin might be referring to Mousefur, I'm not sure), ...and Mousefur's eyes shone brightly in the growing darkness as Fireheart hurried across to join them. "Longtail," he meowed, pausing briefly beside the brown warrior. "You will be senior warrior here. Guard the Clan well." silver  squid   {  m e  o w    !   }  10:26, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * WillowpooI, think you are talking about one-eye, she used to be white-eye, but in Bluestar's Prophecy it said she lost her blind eye... which is weird because in Into the wild it said she had a clouded, sightless eye.151.203.59.164 17:27, August 13, 2010 (UTC)Emberstarfireclan
 * Actually, yes, she did. recently tui sutherland came to my school (AWMAHGAWD AI KNOW x3) and specified that he IS silver with black stripes, then continued that a pale golden-brown cat with pitch-black stripes isnt exactly geneticly possible (srsly, thats like having a pure white cat with black stripes), so i think you should change the pics.151.203.59.164 17:27, August 13, 2010 (UTC)Emberstarfireclan
 * Actually, yes, she did. recently tui sutherland came to my school (AWMAHGAWD AI KNOW x3) and specified that he IS silver with black stripes, then continued that a pale golden-brown cat with pitch-black stripes isnt exactly geneticly possible (srsly, thats like having a pure white cat with black stripes), so i think you should change the pics.151.203.59.164 17:27, August 13, 2010 (UTC)Emberstarfireclan

Eyes
Is it possible that he had a scar on his eyes? Because the cause of his blindness was that a rabbit scratched him. So it is probable that the rabbit also got part opf his fur, not just the eye.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 21:46, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

It's not confirmed, so we can't say that. Sorry, though it is fully possible. -- Bramble 04:47, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Did it ever say he had blue eyes? I don't mind it on the charart, but we can't really put it in the description unless we can cite it. Like on Whiteclaw's page, we wouldn't put "Dark tom with one white paw and green eyes", just because his charart had green eyes. We can't cite he had green, so we don't put it. Isn't it the same deal with Longtail? I don't ever remember it saying that he had blue eyes; infact, I always pictured him with green Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:03, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfall, read farther in the series! i read all the books, even the book that came out like, 2 months ago called Fading Echos, and later in the series it says, i think in Eclipse " Hollypaw stared into Longtail's blank,blue gaze." So Longtail does have blue eyes. Swallowstream 15:16 May18,2010

Swallowstream, no one cares if you read all the books, this is no place to brag about it. And Nightfall did read all the books, you could have gotten that by simply looking at her userpage. Maybe it did mention that Longtail had blue eyes, and she just either forgot or overlooked it. When you read a book, you don't memorize every single word of it. Please stop being rude to users, or us at the wiki will take action. --Dragonfrost 00:49, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well whatever the matter, we need to cite it because it has a [source?] thing on the page and people will delete it if it's not cited. Could somebody look? I will look through the books I have but I don't have them all. Thanks! Whitestorm17 18:21, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can search for the source, I have all my books right here on the shelf. Should I look in Eclipse? Ambersky 18:27, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, if you don't find it in Eclipse go ahead and search in the rest of The Power of Three. If you find it go ahead and refrence it then tell us here. Thank You, this helps a lot! Whitestorm17 19:20, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Ear?
In his description it says he has a nick in his ear, yet his Elder image doesn't. His warrior image does though. Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  20:22, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

That is for project Charat to handle Silverstar  I am Leader of Shineclan!  00:53, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'll tell Bramble about it on her talk page. Rain whisker  武士貓  02:05, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I feel sad that Longtail died Mousefur liked him too :(71.61.138.150 20:45, May 3, 2010 (UTC)LeapordStar

so it doesnt say it on his elder description? *flicks orange and brown striped tail*well, i suppose people just got tired of hearing it(srsly tho, by then you KNOW about his nick).Emberstarfireclan

Longtail's Father
I know that a lot of the information on the family trees on the official website is wrong, but should we list Patchpelt as Longtail's father or not?  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  21:29, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

By the way, I strongly suspect that Speckletail and Smallear are Longtail's parents. Reasons: Speckletail is a pale tabby. Snowkit had blue eyes, so that must be somewhere in the family. It is strongly hinted in the original series that Speckletail had more than 2 litters of kits. Doesn't this make sense??  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  21:35, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

No, we aren't adding Patchpelt as Longtail's father; Why should we? Like you stated, the "official" website is false. As for your theroy about Longtail's parents being Speckletail and Smallear... I agree with that idea, but we can't add it without proof, even though it's entirely possible. --Dragonfrost 00:49, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Dragonfrost. Whitestorm17 04:01, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Vicky has since confirmed Longtail's parentage on Facebook and so his family has been added.. (actually, she confirmed it in May..) Although the Speckletail+Smallear theory makes much more sense. Ambersky 18:27, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Pixel
Um, the discription says longtail is a pale gray tabby, but the pixel is pale brown!!!! -Mallie

This should be taken up with PCA. Whitestorm17 22:12, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

But they say he's pale ginger w/ black stripes all the time! ~Ocean

They never have. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 04:33, August 5, 2010 (UTC)