Warriors Wiki talk:Books

April Feature
We should start discussing the next feature; I hope to get enough feedback. What do you suggest? I propose a series book - for instance, Dawn. 16:44, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

A series book seems like an excellent idea. But, why not have one that has a longer summery? No offense, but it seems that Dawn is just a bit short. It's a fairly large book, and it just seems that there should be more there. Why not Sunrise or Rising Storm? Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 17:07, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

I think both of these ideas are great. I'm okay with both of them. 11:00, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. :) There were several discussions about the plot length sections on main articles; personally I prefer shorter ones as they are supposed to be a quick overview of what the book is about, and not a lengthy narrative. However, seems that most people prefer longer summaries; so maybe I should go for those in the future. About your suggestions, Sunrise is not silver yet (and both the cliffnotes and the main article could use some work); however Rising Storm is OK and I support it. Kind regards, 13:43, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I did not know about Sunrise not being Silver grade yet. I'll have to go clean that up, I guess. I see where you're coming from about the shorter articles being easier to summarize, but, what I meant was when the people who visit WW to look something up, and they see the article, would they not be expecting something detailed when the click on the actual page's link. (If I'm coming off as rude, I'm sorry!) Cloud  skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 19:04, March 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then there are only Dawn and Rising Storm left,so... 23:15, March 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Helix? Which would you prefer? After all, you're temp leader. Cloud  skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 14:58, March 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * A leader's word weighs no more than a contributor's. ;) Anyway, it seems that all people are OK with Rising Storm, so I will put up the vote this weekend (we still have 2 weeks btw) - seems we won't get more input. 20:30, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is up. 19:35, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is done. The article is now gold and April's feature article.  Skye Meow 16:47, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sunrise - Silver Nomination
Yay! My first one! Now, I know that it's not ready yet, but, I was hoping that you guys could help me out, so I know exactly what needs to be done to fix the article. I'm currently working to fix the summary, since most the journey to find Sol is very shortened up, among other things. So, constructive comments? Any would be nice. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 17:34, March 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Great article. :) I added a publication list and fixed some references. Seems that praise cannot be found, unfortunately. I find the plot summary very long; even if we prefer longer summaries, I'd reduce it to half size... maybe not half, but somewhat shorter and more to the point.


 * Another issue is that the Cliffnotes, even if they are silver (were graded silver back last summer with the old criteria) are quite short; some chapters contain only two or three points - can those be expanded? Unfortunately I do not have the book, so I cannot help.


 * Kind regards, 20:30, March 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay. I'll get to fixing the Cliffnotes right away. As for the praise, I also looked around, and, alas, could find none. I'll shorten the summary, and the only reason I extended it, was because I felt that it skipped a few of the parts of the book. *goes off to clean up page* Cloud  skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 12:26, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

I fixed the article. I really don't know what else can be taken out. I'm working on the Cliffnotes now - sorry for taking so long, I've been busy. (I knew having the book would be a good idea xD)  Skye Meow 20:50, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * EDIT: I extended a lot of the chapters in the Cliffnotes. Does it look better? I agree, a lot of them were very short...  Skye Meow 21:26, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * The article looks perfect. About the cliffnotes, some sections are still very short, containing only 2 items (besides the "point of view" mention). Can they be expanded? (I don't have the book so I don't know if these chapters are really so short as nothing is happening). 19:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Some of the chapters are short, or just have nothing important going on, that's why they're so short. I had the book with me while I was completing the Cliffnotes so it would be more accurate.  Skye Meow 17:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK. I support the nomination then. 14:54, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

May I put up the vote then?  Skye Meow 16:47, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

A Dangerous Path - Silver Nomination
Finally, I had the time to do some major work on articles (the first time this year I guess... lol). Proposing A Dangerous Path, Cliffnotes A Dangerous Path and Gallery A Dangerous Path for silver. I did a major rewrite / expansion of the Cliffnotes and the Plot Summary, and the articles seem OK to me. One thing - can someone find references to the cats on the cover? They are apparently Fireheart and Bramblepaw, but I cannot find any official reference. Kind regards, 22:38, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * All three look just fine to me. Some of the chapters seem a little short in the Cliffnotes, but, that's just me. And how would you go about finding the references for the cover? I mean, does it say on the Warrior Cats Website? I know that's like the only thing I'd go to the site for - I don't trust anything else on it.  Skye Meow 19:07, March 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, well, the chapters are uneven in the book as well; some chapters are only 3-5 pages long. I tried to mention every event. For the cover reference, accepted sources are the warriorcats official website (character list or timeline) and Erin Hunter chats. In some cases, if it is quite obvious who the cat is, even if not confirmed, you might post an assumption (like I made on the Firestar's Quest or The Fourth Apprentice articles) - but generally try to avoid this as it might lead to disputes. Kind regards, 16:12, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * I noticed that about the chapters. They are really short. I remember seeing something about the cats on the cover, but I do not remember where. Since it's not possible to find, I say just put the vote up. If later on, the references for the cats comes up, I'm positive you can just add it in.  Skye Meow 21:30, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

New Leadership
Hey everyone. I just wanted to let you all know that a little while ago, Bramble asked me to be the new lead here, and I accepted. 03:41, March 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Congrats Rainlegs! I just saw the message on your user talk page. Do you have any plans for a deputy? Cloud  skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 12:25, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to wait a little bit before I choose one, but I have a few people in mind. 13:39, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Congrats Rainy!!!! I'm so glad you got chosen! 13:42, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations, Rainlegs! I'm not really that active in the project, but you're a great contributor to the Wiki, and I'm glad you got chosen. :) 14:35, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Congrats, Rainy! I still can't believe I doubted you when you told me! :P:P:P Best wishes, ✳   YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ✳ 19:18, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Cloudskye is the new deputy. :) 03:03, March 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * And I'm honored to serve as your deputy. I hope we can bring some new activity to the project.  Skye Meow 20:02, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Congratulations, Rain and Cloud. I have seen you contribute to the wiki, and it's a good thing to know that two, loyal users are serving as the united leadership of a great project. I wish you two good luck.  Icy 123   ♥

20:29, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * That means a lot coming from you, Ice. Thanks.  Skye Meow 20:32, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Not only thanks to Ice, but thanks to everyone who's commented here. It means a lot to me. :) 00:31, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't been on here much recently, but congrats to both of you! You deserve it :D  23:13, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

The Heart of a Warrior ~ Silver Nomination
I went through and re-wrote the summary, because it was one massive paragraph. The Cliffnotes look okay. As for the cover gallery, as far as I know, there is only one cover for the book. Ahh, so, what do you all think? Does it seem worthy enough to become silver grade?  Skye Meow 23:13, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good to me. Can you find a praise anywhere? Night shine  23:24, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

No, I looked and I can't find one. I've noticed that with a lot of the newer books...praise is seldom and very hard to find.  Skye Meow 23:33, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

I couldn't find praise either, so removed the section. I made some style fixes, added references and spoiler tags. Looks good to me. :) 19:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, supporting! 22:26, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone have any problems with me putting up the vote?  Skye Meow 18:56, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Brightspirit's Mercy - Silver Nomination
I saw that it needed work while I was looking at the main PB page, but once I checked out the pages of Brightspirit's Mercy it all seemed good. Any comments on this? Night shine  23:31, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

It looks just fine to me.  Skye Meow 23:33, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

It's fine. The only thing missing is the reference for publish date, but I doubt we can find any. 19:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you probably won't be able to do much else to it, so I support. =D 23:11, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I looked for one earlier but I couldn't find it anywhere. Night shine  23:37, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Its okay, I think its good enough without it :D  23:39, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Mistystar. It's looks just fine without it. Maybe they don't have one for it. If there is, it's very well hidden.  Skye Meow 18:58, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Preview section
The Sight (and maybe other articles) contain a "Hype & Preview" section, which basically duplicates the blurb. Maybe this was useful before the book was released, but now I find it redundant. Should we remove it? 19:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I think we should. 19:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I honestly see no need for them.  Skye Meow 17:17, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

PB Style and Ops Manual
Hey all! Since PB has no written guidelines (like PC or PW), I spent some time to write up an article with proposed guidelines for writing PB articles, and to help the new leaders in maintaining the project. You can read it here. There are not new things, in fact we have always proceeded according to these principles, but they were never written down. Please comment on the talk page (or here); when every user agrees, there should be a vote for implementing it as an official guideline. Kind regards, 19:24, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

These are very good. Books, as the base for everything this Wiki has, deserve their own guidelines to properly execute book articles. Like you said, there's no new information, but a new user would find these infinitely helpful. 19:29, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

These are useful. I like them. As Moonflight said above me, the books are the base for the wiki. It would be extremly helpful. It doesn't matter if there is no new information - it would be useful to every member, in case they need to brush up on some stuff.  Skye Meow 17:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with everything said above. Even I could use them, since I've never really done anything here. 01:10, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

How long should we wait before adding in a vote? I see no need for it, since there are people that agree, and they look excellent... But that's just me. And Rainlegs, yeah, you could use them. (xD It's ighthearted humor, so don't shoot me for it.) I honestly think that every contributor should read up on them as something to refesh their minds. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 14:51, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

(XD, it's okay.) I really don't think this will require a vote, since no one has decided against it, but I think we should wait for a few more people to agree, since there's only been three. I say we should wait another two days before making it official. It'll give everyone [who hasn't already] plenty of time to state their opinions. 00:33, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll state mine XD I think we should have one. 00:39, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Spottedleaf's Honest Answer ~ Silver Nomination
It looks pretty good. Comments? 23:42, March 29, 2011 (UTC)