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Birchfall (Alt. A) - For Approval


Blur so that the pelt is smoothed, and not blotchy. Use the blur tool and smudge tool, whatever you can, to smooth out the patches of light and dark so it all runs together smoothly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? If so, blur the shading a lot. 21:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shading overall has been modified as well as blurred. I've uploaded twice, but there does not seem to be any change in the actual image. I will check back tomorrow and try uploading again if there is no change. -- 04:27, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I see the changes, I think. XD Move the ear-pink up so it isn't touching the line-art. 23:57, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, blur the shading on the paws and tail. 02:26, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think this is the correct version. The shading looks much to blotchy. 01:00, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

I see it fine, however, the shoulder highlight does need to be blurred. 05:19, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Since Bramble no longer wants to do images, anyone who isn't working on something can take over this. 20:25, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

If no one is taking over this image, may I do it? 21:33, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, make sure you reserve it, too. 23:13, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. 02:30, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to smooth it out as best I could. Comments? 03:04, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the tail shading, lighten the ear pink a bit and move it up- 23:06, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I would blur the highlights some more. 14:25, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? 22:42, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

The shading seems really blotchy and the ear pink needs to be blurred and made a bit bigger. 21:15, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 19:06, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I'm on vacation and I didn't have internet until today. I'll edit it as soon as I can. 14:39, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I've blurred it to the max. Comments? 15:15, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights more consistent. 23:24, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any comments? 01:34, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Move the earpink up so it isn't touching the lineart and make the transition between shading and highlights more consistent. Smudging then blurring helps. Looks good. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 08:00, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! :D However, it appears to me that there's too much contrast between the shading and the highlights. Could you lighten the shading a little or blur it more? :3 -- 14:39, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 19:59, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'll upload it in a sec. Sorry for the delay! 18:08, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened the shading and darkened the highlights so there is less contrast between the two. I also moved the ear pink, and blurred everything to the max. Any comments? -- 18:21, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading seems a bit splotchy, try to smooth it out with the smudge tool. Lighten the ear pink. Darken the shading-- 19:54, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger as well. 04:11, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Also, I would say lighten the ear pink. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I wasn't able to darken the shading, because it got all blotchy and when I tried to darken the highlights to fix it, I couldn't really blur it well. I can try doing it on GIMP. Oh and I need to work on the ear pink. I'll do that in a sec. 22:01, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading-- night  shine  ❄ 02:18, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. 21:18, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks really blotchy, I suggest blur it in one direction only so it might help a bit. Darken the ear pink, as well. 00:48, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if you blur in different directions; but it seems as if you have smuged the shading. 23:29, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and there is also some extra line-art pixels near the tail. 23:30, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a bit when you enlarge it. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:15, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still working on this, but just to let you all know, I won't have internet on Friday and Saturday because I'm going away. I will reupload in a sec. 02:31, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Err... Reuploaded I don't think there's much of a difference, in my opinion. Or maybe its just my computer. 02:35, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur everything, darken the shading on the bottom of the haunch, lighten shading under the neck, enlarge highlight on tail, and move the earpink up a tad. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 01:56, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading on back/neck.  Mistfire Epic Fail  05:16, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

I don't have any time to work on this; Withdrawing. If anyone would like to take over, feel free to do so. 00:59, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I will ^^. Darkhallows... Mew? 07:36, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I did use the shading, but added muscle definintion. Darkhallows... Mew? 08:13, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad under the chin. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 20:45, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 23:52, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Also, there seems to be gray lines running under the head. Fix that please. 01:23, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, though I see no gray lines? Darkhallows... Mew? 21:31, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink and lighten it-- Night  shine  01:07, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes might be a little light and make the leg blend in. It sticks out a bit.

The neck and shoulder-ish shading needs some lightening/blurring, it looks too much like stripes.  Mistfire Epic Fail  03:39, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined.-- Night  shine  05:42, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

If no one wants this, I can take over. It would be my first charart. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 01:11, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead, I don't have the time :/. Darkhallows... Mew? 10:26, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I'm not really good with highlighting and such... I tried my best. I ended up re-doing the ear pink to try and center it more. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 17:43, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder and neck shading. 04:07, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

'Re-uploaded Look any better? Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 13:36, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Defind the ear pink and this will be ready-- Night  shine  23:59, March 4, 2011 (UTC) Re-uploaded I did what I could with limited resources. I had to use Pixlr, and I'm on a laptop, so, it's probably not good enough... Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 00:34, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) - For Approval


Either lighten the shading on the back or get rid of the highlight next to it by darkening it. Then blur thoroughly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sunspirit, are you still working on this?-- 07:22, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Define the highlight on the flank. Scarlet wind Medicine cat of SolarClan 21:09, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the ear pink 00:06, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are a bit too bright. Maybe shade them a bit. Wolfwhisker  Trick <font color="Orange"> or <font color="Black"> Treat   01:02, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble, are you still working on this?-- 02:33, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think since Bramble has retired, someone will have to take over. Could I continue working on this, if someone else hasn't already taken it? 00:29, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Blackclaw, I have Tawnypelt (Alt.Ki) up for approval, and it's on CBA, and I planned to take over this because I've made all the changes for Plumwillow's apprentice image. You are free to take it, but...well, I worked really hard on the changes I made to her image, and I really wanted to take over it. There are a couple other images that need taking over as well, but if you would like to continue working on this, I don't mind. You asked first, after all. :) It's up to you. -- 01:17, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Since you have worked on this image before, I think you should take it instead. I'll just find something else to do. 21:26, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Blackclaw! :) It's a privilege to take over this image. I'll get to it and upload my version as soon as Tawnykit gets approved. -- 22:20, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Yay, Tawnykit's approved! I've uploaded my new version. :) Comments? -- 20:12, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur haunch highlights a little, otherwise it looks great :) ❋   Rainwhisper   ❋  21:16, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Rainy! :) -- 21:29, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink and make it more triangular, make the haunch highlight a bit bigger and blur it-- 02:23, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Hope that looks better! :) -- 20:24, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink more, blur the haunch highlight around the edges-- 23:02, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

You did a great job taking over the image! Blur the haunch highlight. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:48, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Aw, thank you, Sunny. ^_^ -- 21:22, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight. 01:14, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. =) -- 02:09, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more visible. 14:28, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look quite messy. I'd re-do them. 15:02, December 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well...re-do the bottom one at least. All you need to do with the top is brighten it. 15:28, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I brightened the top highlight. Moonflight, what do you mean by "messy"? Like, is it blurred too much, or too big, or simply out of place? It looks fine to me. Please tell me! :) -- 19:55, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlight on the head needs to be brightened just a little more, so it matches the haunch and shoulder highlights. It looks great though! 22:44, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Blackclaw. :) -- 03:03, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

The shoulder and haunch highlights are very bright. darken them. Mistfire Owl City! 16:26, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. =) -- 20:46, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

There's a spot on the haunch where the shading is lighter, try and fix that if you know where it is :) 21:14, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights a bit more consistent. 22:44, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. :) -- 12:10, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight a little more, but otherwise it looks amazing :) 15:41, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Is that any better? :3 -- 03:04, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, move it up, and make it bigger. Lighten the ear pink-- 19:03, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I'm not sure if it showed the changes... -- 19:33, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the haunch and lighten it. <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  12:19, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I apologize if there doesn't appear to be any change. :) If I blur it too much, then it will "cut away" at the highlight, and that makes me darken the highlights and brighten the highlights and darken...etc. I tried to blur it as little as possible, once again, I'm sorry if the changes don't seem to be there. ;) -- 17:56, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Center the highlights and blur them. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

You use Pixlr, I assume? What I would do is re-do them entirely. When you take the dodge tool, you can obviously change the brush. Chose a circle brush that sort of fades out at the edges. Then change the size to somewhere between 50 and 70 and dodge. It then only requires a little blurring. If you use Photoshop, go to Pixlr. From my expirience, Photoshop makes my Chararts turn out horrendous. If you use GIMP, I really have no idea what happend here. 0_o 01:14, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I do use Pixlr. What you say is intelligent and worth trying. :) I think redoing the highlights is crucial at this point. XD I'll get right on it. :) -- 13:05, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I completely redid the haunch highlight. I personally think it turned out much cleaner and brighter than before. :) -- 18:34, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it did. :) Except there's a darker patch on it, so make it all like the same... color? Or maybe just tries to blur it more. Anyway, it looks great! :) 18:40, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I just lightened it and blurred it in. Thanks, Rainy. ^_^ -- 19:34, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darkened the ear pink or make it more noticeable. And the haunch still kinda looks the same.XD There's just one spot n it that is darker then the rest, so I guess try and blur it again, or maybe smudge it. :) 21:28, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks for the awesome tips, Raineh. :) I'm positive I got the dark spot now. If anything still needs work, tell me. =) -- 20:23, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, the spot is gone. Just maybe blur the haunch highlight a little more to make it a little smoother. :) 20:29, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Hopefully the changes showed; if not I can always re-upload it again. :) Anything else? -- 20:42, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 01:30, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I personally think the earpink looks worse now. :P Tell me to re-upload it to the previous version if you agree. :) -- 15:27, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you. You don't need to upload the old one though, just put a lighter shade of earpink over top-- 19:50, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

The only thing that I think needs to be done (besides the earpink) is to blur the haunch highlight again. XD 21:05, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I fixed the earpink, and I. Blurred. The haunch. -_- -- 21:25, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah..fix it please. :3 20:01, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Fix what? I already fixed the earpink and blurred the haunch. I'm not sure what you mean. XD -- 21:58, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the ear pink, darken the highlights and blur them, -- 01:48, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. -- 02:42, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger and blur them. They almost look like spots. Otherwise, great image! 22:27, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Yeah, Nightflower, they almost do. XD Hopefully I fixed it. :) Brightened highlights and blurred them thoroughly. And thanks. ^_^ -- 22:49, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights and blur them-- 04:19, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

I've already brightened the highlights and blurred them, and they look fine to me. I've darkened the highlights, brightened the highlights, and if you ask me to darken them again, I think that's useless because some other user's going to come along eventually telling me to brighten them - again. :P Besides, they look good to me. -- 20:01, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Move the haunch and the shoulder highlights up a tad and brighten the earpink a lil' bit too =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:03, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. =) -- 16:04, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

The highlite is too bright. Blur it or darken it. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 18:28, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. -- 00:09, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Move the highlights up a bit more and brighten the earpink a bit more. Blur the shading/highlights. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:58, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Also, make the highlights a tad bigger. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. -- 17:53, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights on the shoulder and haunch should be blurred just a bit more, and the head hightlight should be brightened to match the other highlights I mentioned. It looks great though! 20:59, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Aw, thanks Blackclaw! ^_^ -- 02:07, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bottom of the hanch highlight. 01:20, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a lot. - night  shine  ❄ 02:17, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. -- 02:54, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit, and make them a tad bigger. 06:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights' shade and size are fine right now, thanks. I've been darkening them and brightening them, and I think right now, they're good. Also, if I keep blurring them, they either get smaller or larger, and I think I like the size and shape right now. Hope you understand. :) Not concerning the highlights, are there any other comments? -- 21:11, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Midnite, But I really think the highlights are much too bright. It's nearly white. Either that or you need to blur massively. 04:14, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Also, jw, where's your light source coming from? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:20, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Alright, Frostheart, as you wish. XD @Wildheart, my light source is coming from the upper left hand corner, since the top of the muzzle, the haunch, the shoulder, the tail, and a little bit of the middle of the front legs are highlighted. ;) Please, everyone, it's really tiring brightening the highlights and darkening them but not really doing anything else, and they really do look fine to me now, so, not concerning the brightness of the highlights, is there anything else that should be done? :3 -- 21:42, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, another hi-lite comment :P. Darken them til they match the face. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 02:09, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

(Sighs) -_- Can I just brighten the muzzle highlight instead? :3 -- 02:12, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments now? :3 -- 02:20, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Did you forget to reupload it? Because I went on the pic's page and it said you haven't uploaded it for a week... --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:05, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Of course I didn't forget! It says I last updated it on January 29, 2011. :P -- 19:31, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the hi-lites on the fronts of her legs.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  17:47, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

They are blurred. They look fine to me. -- 18:24, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the haunch, its to consentarted and bright. 19:06, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Since Midnite has retired from the wiki, someone can take this over. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:28, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

All right, I took over. Fixed the haunch hilight, darkened the shading to make it more even, and darkened her because she's supposed to be dark gray. Comments? Marluxia; The Graceful Assassin  16:42, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights the same shade. 18:18, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the shoulder and haunch. Fix that and brighten the earpink. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 23:50, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Marluxia; The Graceful Assassin  18:40, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Still looks like there's some blurred lineart at the top of the arm --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:08, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the haunch hi-lite.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  01:44, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder highlight. 01:23, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Marluxia; The Graceful Assassin  14:50, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 01:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed there a some more places in which your lineart is blurred. The red indicates where. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 01:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 18:17, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Is she still working on this? It's been over a week now ._. 18:18, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

If she's not, is there any chance I could take over? I've been looking hard for a character in need of art, but I'm failing miserably. XD Paleclaw 04:12, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little bigger.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  03:42, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Actually this looks ready, comments before approval?-- Night  shine  05:42, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight a little 15:43, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

It looks find to me, repeating 24 hours-- Night  shine  18:12, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to ruin CBA but can she fix the blurred lineart before it gets approved? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:42, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

What is there to fix on the line art?-- Night  shine  07:42, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shoulder and the ear are blurred. Everything else looks fine... but... --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 22:46, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

I"ll get to this tomorrow. (This is Elorisa.) 99.25.97.75 02:53, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well on my laptop I don't see any blurred line art, so I'm repeating the 24 hours-- Night  shine  00:00, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Mosspelt (Alt. Q) - For Approval
Comments? ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  18:20, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent work! =) Blur the shading on the back, blur the ear pink a bit more and extend it higher to the tip of the ear, and make her a bit more golden-brown; refer to Brackenfur, for example, if you need help. She looks somewhere between cream and orange right now. -- 20:04, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  21:19, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 21:26, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think it looks any better :/. ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  21:38, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back a lot and make the highlights a little brighter, mostly on the face. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 21:43, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink so it isn't such a bright colour. 21:54, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  22:14, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. 00:18, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit and blur it. -- 00:20, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I had to redo the shading and highlights ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  00:45, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, and maybe make it a little less fushia. 03:27, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the back and belly look like stripes. Lighten and blur well. 09:20, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded There! It looks WAY better! ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  18:19, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back and on the tail. :) Also, blur the shading on the front paw. - 20:36, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :D B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  22:34, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, and change the eye colour; it's a little too aqua to be normal. 05:21, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot and darken the ear pink. -- 07:05, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:34, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish. I don't see a light source in this; thicken the shading.-- 04:25, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better now? B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:14, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think you are trying to make the light source come from the left. Darken the shading in the areas I marked with red. Make the ear pink look similar to that colour.-- 21:09, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Night shine, can you give me the hex code for the earpink colour? I'm having a hard time trying to find something similar. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:09, December 6, 2010 (UTC)<-- Never mind that. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:21, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :)? B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:20, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more around the neck and belly. Blur thee ear pink a bit more-- 00:18, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur everything overall, it might be just me, but everything looks quote blotchy. 02:21, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, it was just my brain tricking me. :3 15:30, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  18:42, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks quite blotchy to me. Perhaps darkening it could fix it. 22:45, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading and highlights. It was blotchy because I edited it a lot :/ B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  23:34, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot. Center the ear pink. -- 02:27, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I carefully smudged the different blues in the eyes together for effect. This is NEVER gonna be approved .-. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  03:18, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose color a darker shade of gold. And Blizzardfur, be patient, some chararts take way longer--two months to be approved. 05:07, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot in the areas I designated in the redline above -- 05:16, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded This has better work... B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  16:15, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, mostly on the shoulder. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:36, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

It stills needs to be blurred a lot more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  23:48, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I would darken the shading first. Then blur it, like Rainwhisper said. 00:51, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink lighter, it looks sorta burnt orange right now; the colour Nightshine originally gave you was good. 05:15, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I was blurring for half an hour -.- (I HATE the blur tool). My head is telling me to withdraw this... <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 01:56, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

The back shading is slightly inconsistent. Make it more smooth. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened it then did it again. Maybe I won't withdraw this after all! <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:16, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and make it much smoother. 20:40, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded O_o... <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:20, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, it looks the same. Be right back while I fix this. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:21, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind. It's fine. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:26, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur everything thoroughly. 01:55, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did you want me to blur the lineart too? Just kidding ;) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:16, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the shading and darken the haunch highlight some-- 22:59, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Woooooooo, that REALLY helped... Blur tool makes things worse in my opinion. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 23:27, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

You should probably smudge it-- 23:38, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 00:17, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken to haunch highlight and make it not touch the line-art. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:57, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Does that look better? <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:34, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the belly shading more still and make it look more circular, not following the lines of her back, belly, and legs. 20:27, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 20:55, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and add one to the shoulder. 01:12, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wow, what an epic fail xD <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 15:36, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight and shading, darken the highlights, darken the neck shading.-- 07:31, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 15:50, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, it looks sorta blotchy. Mistfire Owl City! 21:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:15, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is still really blotchy and is a little dark on her back. Add more shading on her tail too. 21:12, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20 days since I have been working on this 0_0 <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 02:52, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken the highlights if you cannot blur them anymore. 05:01, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 19:39, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Move the belly highlight up, blur the shading throughly, make the ear pink smaller-- 17:36, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded In the file history, the latest uploader of the image is MarigoldPetalmarble. Sorry about that, that's my Toontown Wikia username (I forgot to log off of it and sign in to Moonleaf:)!) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:16, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Move the belly highlight up, blur all the shading a lot-- 18:19, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm feeling that I have to give up and withdraw this. But it's not confirmed yet. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:07, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the large highlight on her side and maybe dull it a tad so it doesn't stand out so much. Don't give up yet, you're nearly there! <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:12, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on her belly and chest and also get rid of the shading on the tip of her tail. 03:20, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 21:21, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Night shine, I was on vacation for a week and came back home pretty late. I'm gonna work on it right now. ♪Mari gold♪  18:01, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Crap, I'm on MarigoldPetalmarble. It's just me, Moonleaf. I'll go on Moonleaf:) ♪Mari  gold♪  18:02, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:22, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on her belly. 00:28, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any much of a difference? <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 17:31, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think so. Maybe darken the belly shading a bit. That might make it look better. 02:43, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm gonna change my siggy, be right back ;) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 01:51, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

The stomach shading looks really blotchy. Perhaps you should blur it a tad more. :) -- 14:32, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Have to do research now for school for a report... ._. 20:59, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the belly shading and blur it-- 00:31, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:30, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the belly and haunch highlight, and blur the ear pink. 01:28, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the belly shading and blur it a lot-- 19:49, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded When you mean by "thicken the belly shading", do you mean by making it bigger or making it darker, Nightshine? 20:56, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

The belly shading needs to be lightened and blurred- you might even have to re-do it. Blur the tail shading also. 21:08, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I gotta admit, it looks better redone. 01:57, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Darken the shading. 03:23, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:49, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Just darken the shading a tad more and blur it. Looks great, though! 18:48, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:21, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, darken it, and blur it. Move the ear pink up and lighten it a bit. -- 01:47, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 01:54, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

The belly-shading is kinda in a square-shape. Try your best to round/smooth it out. Oh, and blur the shading. 02:10, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to fix the belly highlight but it looked messy so I was like "Forget it" 18:12, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, add shading to the back and face, -- 04:18, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:38, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Where's your light source coming from? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:54, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea, really O_o 20:23, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

You should find one. Whether it is from the front, side, or back. It needs to make sense. :P 00:14, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

I tweaked it a little so Reuploaded. And I'm assuming it's from the left side. 02:36, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

If your light is coming from the left, then you should probably change the highlights/shading a bit. Look at that picture with the red shading that Nightshine put up when Blizzardfur was still doing it. It will help a lot. =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:06, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Um... Wildheart... Blizzardfur was ME 18:43, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Neck shading = UBER FAIL! 23:19, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

LOL. **facepalm** I just saw the siggie change and assumed... ahahahah sorry Moonleaf. But yeah still use that pic. It will heeeelpp =D haha --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:04, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights. Marluxia; The Graceful Assassin  19:15, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:37, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading-- night  shine  ❄ 02:13, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 01:04, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all shading. Do you use GIMP? If so, your blur tool should be at 100% and it should be really strong...  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  05:16, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

I'm using Pixlr (stupid Parental Controls won't let me download GIMP >:o). 00:43, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Would you like me to help you in blurring your shading? 'Cause I have GIMP, and it'd be no trouble at all :)  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  17:47, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred the shading. But you can still blur for me, I appreciate :). Now to upload it 18:25, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

NOW it's actually Reuploaded. 18:27, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights/shading and use that picture Nightshine put up! Your shading and highlights are in some strange places right now. Brighten the face highlight as well. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:26, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I just got the free trial of Photoshop :) 18:10, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:12, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Less shading under her head. -

 UNI  01:06, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 01:23, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yes, I'm still here. 22:41, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading-- Night  shine  01:07, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I hate this charart >:( -pang of envy- 03:24, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Aw! Don't worry, Moonleaf! It'll get approved! You just need to keep working on it! Be persistant. (who are you envious of?) Blur the belly shading and darken the ear that's facing away from us. Brighten the earpink a bit, too. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:07, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded When I'm crabby, I use words like that D: 04:29, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading-- Night  shine  16:52, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Gotta love the blur tool. You'll die without it. What now?

Blur the shading, and try to get all the shading the same tone. There's darker-colored spots in the shading here and there. 00:53, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

But if I do, then it will become blotchy. 02:12, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, and blur it. Especially on the tummy, back, and the front leg that is closest to us.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  03:45, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:30, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

I am going to re-do this. This time, without ANY SHADING :D 00:47, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded No shading :O 00:53, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Looks better, but give her just a TEENY bit shading.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits! 

Reuploaded You can barely see it 18:42, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Here, I have a way you can add shading easily. Colour pick the pelt colour then use a dark shade of that. Use the spray tool to spray shading onto the charart-- Night  shine  02:29, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

The spray tool...? Should I use MS Paint then? 20:52, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

No use GIMP-- Night  shine  00:01, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Cinderheart (Alt. KI) - For approval


My first charart! I spent a ton of time on it ^^". Cinderheart's alternate kit form -- she was described in Sunset as 'looking exactly like Cinderpelt (dark fluffy gray)' instead of gray tabby. Comments?  Maple   frost!   19:40, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 20:57, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the nose; gray cats usually don't have pink noses, and rename it Cinderheart.kit.alt 21:03, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add some highlights to the tail. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:11, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Move the highlight to the chest and add highlights to the fronts of the legs. Mistfire Owl City! 21:39, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. What now? :)  Maple   frost!   00:05, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights a little more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  00:06, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

* coughs* Rename it Cinderheart.kit.alt, please. 01:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

* Facepaw* Sorry... I was being an idiot xD. I named it Cinderheart.alt.kit... ugh... Sorry, I'll rename it when I re-upload it (in a few minutes when I finish editing)  Maple   frost!   01:53, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! (/Is very glad she re-read her post before clicking save page. That would've been an embarrassing typo.)  Maple   frost!   02:00, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

There is an extra period after alt. You just need to name it Cinderheart.kit.alt, it will add the .png to the end on its own. Sorry for the lack of image-related comments, I will once you name it correctly ^_^ 03:33, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Uggghhh xD sorry... you have permission to cyber-punch me. I know, I'm exasperating. It's part of my internet charm ^_^ (NOT). Okay... it's named right, now. I think... xD. Maple  frost!   05:20, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Change the nose color to a darker gray. 17:15, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading thoroughly. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:39, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Maple  frost!   19:32, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look... mismatched and blotchy. Can you try and fix that? ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:43, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks crooked. -- 20:44, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple  frost!   23:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading thoroughly. 23:26, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Are they too strong or something? I keep getting told to do that... they're as blurred as they possibly can be, so are they just too strong? Maple  frost!   23:34, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The nose is still a bit pink. And no, they're not too strong. You need to blur them, they're too blotchy. 04:01, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Should I make the nose completely black/very very dark gray? Or just darken the current pinkish-gray nose? Maple  frost!   05:05, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose colour a dark gray -- 00:12, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I fixed the nose and splotchiness. It doesn't look splotchy anymore ^^", thank goodness. I'm sick of the Blur tool. xD  Maple   frost!   17:53, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks really blotchy to me. 21:24, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Me, too. There are scraps of shading and highlights everywhere, and looks a bit disorganized. Also, blur the tail shading a tad. -- 21:26, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is that better? Maple  frost!   21:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Now it looks how it did before XD Blur it mostly on the chest area, but on the legs and the tail too. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  22:07, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Would you want some help with the blotchiness? 04:41, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

-Sigh-... Whenever there's blotchiness, there's something I like to do called... REDOING THE SHADING AND HIGHLIGHTS. I just fill 'em in again and redo the shading and highlights and hope it works. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  04:03, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

If they redo the shading and highlights, it may make it more blotchy, with the Pixlr blurring. 05:05, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

The earpinks should be a bit more consistent. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

I completely restarted--been working on this nonstop. :D I think I got it fixed. Comments? *Crosses fingers* Oh, and please give me little details, too--like, say, the eyes are a bit to greeny-blue, etc. Don't be afraid to point something like that out--I want you to. I'm trying to become a great Charart member :).  Maple   frost!   06:28, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Much better, Maplefrost. :] Make the nose lighter and blur the ear-pink more. 01:53, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll go work on it now :). P.S.--Has nothing to do with this, but... can ANYONE tell me what happened to Bramble and why Oblivion's now leader? It's like one day I logged on and Bramble was listed as leader, then suddenly Oblivion... and I can't find anything about it. I checked PCA news, tried the (confusing) forums, and even poked around on Bramble's profile... nothing. On his/her (I think last I read Bramble's a her xD) profile it still says 'I'm the leader of Project Charart, yada yada yada".  Maple   frost!   03:45, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Read the discussion on "New Leadership" in the discussion area. :3 03:50, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I read it :) congratz on being new Dep. Humm... does that look any better? Note: For some odd reason every time I clicked 'overwrite existing photo with yours' ('cause I have to name it Cinderheart.kit.alt), it would say 'success!' and I'd click 'return to editing', yet it would look exactly the same... I tried to get it to work about ten times, to no avail. So now I'm just crossing my fingers that it'll show the 'right' new one.  Maple   frost!   04:25, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken the shading-- 22:58, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten highlights. This is quite good =3 ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 09:30, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Great job, Maplefrost. 8) The ear pink should be even on both ears. :) -- 21:13, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Is that better? I think the ear pink's a bit too faint now... am I right? Comments? ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  22:00, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you're right XD so brighten it up a little. 03:30, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

xD Is that better? (Reuploaded) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  17:06, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Whoa! Nice sig, Maplefrost. This is really good, just make the nose a lighter gray. Mistfire Owl City! 17:13, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and thanks! :) Thanks also for giving me the link to Oblivion's Sig tutorial, back when I was a WWiki noooob... Heh, I'll go change the nose color now. :) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  17:44, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

How's that? (Reuploaded) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  04:03, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

There's a single circle of highlights on her chest. Blur and smooth it out. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 15:27, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and brighten the highlights, and I can hardly see the ear pink. 19:07, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dodge the face a tad more. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Working on it! Just making sure you don't think I've abandoned it ;) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  19:32, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Just darken the shading a little on the paws, unless the light is coming from the front. It seems to be coming from the top. Otherwise, it's FANTABULOUS! Butterfly } { Song!  00:25, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail and brighten the highlight there. Try making the transition smoother. =) -- 14:29, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 19:48, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

If it is declined, might I work on it? I'm horrbily bored now that I have no charart to do Maplepool 04:08, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes you can work on this now-- 04:17, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

What? No! I'm right here! I'm reuploading now! One sec. It's still mine. I never resigned... ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  21:33, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... how's this? I think I fixed the ears. I still need to work on the paws, which I'll do on my next upload, but I kind of rushed this one... I don't want this to be taken away from me :/ I never withdrew it. It's just... been the holidays. I couldn't be on 24/7. I'm back, though. This is my first charart; please don't take it away from me. Anyway... reuploaded, comments please. ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  21:57, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Maplefrost, this is wonderful! Just blur the shading at the base of the tail a little. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 18:33, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit more consistent. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thank ye ^^. Okay, I fixed the tail and paws, but I haven't reuploaded it because... well, what exactly do you mean by consistent? Heh, please don't laugh... just need to make sure before I mess it up more. ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  20:41, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Consistent means to make them the same. The right (our right) earpink seems a little brighter than the left and they are not in the same shape. 21:33, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

And while you're at it, brighten it a bit more =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:46, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

This is great Maplefrost! Just brighten the face a little.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  05:16, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 23:35, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yup! :) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  04:33, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded! ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  04:39, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Juuust making sure XD Blur the chest highlight/shading --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:23, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Rename the image 'Cinderheart.kit.alt' 15:53, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe a little less shading, or maybe some more highlights? Either will work. -

 UNI  01:04, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- Night  shine  16:51, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure on this so bear with me. The shading could be blurred and are there hightlights? I don't seem to see any:P<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  01:14, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

If this is declined, may I take over? :3 22:44, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm workin' on it, sorry. It's not an excuse, but my dog passed away recently. I haven't been on much. ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  01:02, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Poor you and doggie D: Make the earpink brighter and redder.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  03:48, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks fine to me, just darken the nose colour/make it dark gray-- Night  shine  05:41, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Why is the charart called KitLongFehmm222 O_o? Rename it Cinderheart.kit.alt please 15:32, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know O_o Why the heck did it name it that? It's saved in my comp as 'Cinderkit charart'. Anyway, I reuploaded. ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  22:17, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. Looking good. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:22, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the chest shading.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  01:58, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Creekfeather (Ki) - For Approval
Creekfeather as a kit 21:55, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing, lighten the ear pink, darken the stripes-- 22:02, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes and smudge them. 22:27, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened whole image, lightened earpink, darkened stripes, and smudged them more. 23:00, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes more; make them look feathery. It kind of looks like he is flecked. 23:33, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Smudged them even more...... I think I need to smudge them all around, not just going with the fur, to make them look more feathery..... 02:05, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and darken it a tad. Also, maybe try smudging the stripes with the size 1 brush and just run it back and forth through the tabby mark. If my charart was approved I was going to do Creekkit and that's what I did. (I made his image because I was bored XD) If that doesn't make sense then just leave it be :) 02:22, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm trying my best..... I'm also starting to despise the smudge tool..... ;) 03:53, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the spots more stripe-ish. :) 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Tried to make them more stripe-like :S 14:27, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little bigger. 14:41, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Enlarged earpink. 01:48, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too fuschia, and the stripes don`t look like stripes. Make them a lot thinner. 22:46, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I Fixed the earpink, although I'm not too sure about the stripes. They aren't very stripe-like on his warrior image, and I want a few more user's opinion on that. No offense. 00:47, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think they should look a little sharper and a little less thick. Maybe even get rid of a few of the stripes. 01:22, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes should be in a triangle shape and then smudged heavily. 01:09, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. It looked so good and strip-y, until I smudged it.... :( 16:24, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

It looks really nice! Just make the earpink a little pinker, like on the warrior image. Zexion; The Cloaked Schemer  02:06, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Use the smallest possible brush for smudging. It will help your outcomes. =) - -   Wildheart  W h a t i s r i g h t n o w ? 03:31, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes a tad skinnier. 05:48, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 04:51, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Good. You got the idea when you smudged it. Looks good, but make the stripes smaller so that it's like little patches. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:56, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Great job, Rainlegs! =) Can you add some highlights to the tail? -- 14:06, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 03:33, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

You still need to make the stripes into something more resembling the patches on his other chararts. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:37, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Okay..... Stripes or Patches? I'm switching back and forth here. 02:42, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

They are stripes, but they are smudged to look like patches. 15:38, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Mmkay. That clarifies things..... 14:51, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Just make stripes and smudge them a lot with the small circle tool to make it look somewhat like a patch-- 23:06, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid the image. 02:55, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, add shading under the chin, lighten the ear pink, smudge the patches. -- 04:14, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Lemme guess...... Thin out chin shading? 01:35, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Haha chin shading looks fine. I know this is kind of contradicting what nightshine JUST said, but darken the earpink. Not a LOT, so that it's like it was before, but just so it doesn't look so bubble-gum pink, y'know? =P Make the patches a leetle bit smaller and smudge them a leetle bit more XD --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:09, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit. 07:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:28, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the nose colour, lighten the ear pink, define the patches-- night  shine  ❄ 02:08, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looking good! Move the chest highlight up a bit. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:01, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Nerp. Was grounded from the computer. I'm back, though! 00:52, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, but in the way of consistency, could be a bit better. Perhaps make the patches a bit smaller. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:29, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- Night  shine  01:02, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! I was re-doing the image, then I had some other life-issues, and didn't get around to this. Will re-upload in a minute. 01:16, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-did image. I stole all the colore from Creekfeather's warrior image. 01:34, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes some more. This looks great! Ravensoul101 03:02, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 19:31, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes and the nose colour-- Night  shine  23:23, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is it normal to want to shred a fictional character into teeny-tiny peices? 01:33, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink just a tad. 18:17, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:39, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the patches some more and darken the shading a tad --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:34, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 16:32, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Three days, and no comments....... Anyone? 01:26, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Rainlegs, be patient. Blur the darker stripes.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  05:02, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded.... I might need a little help with blurring the shading... 00:29, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

I can, if you want... <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  02:17, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Can you? That would be great! 03:17, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the patches some more. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 21:12, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Done. Mistfire? 02:54, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blackstar (Alt. L) - For Approval
This is my first leader as well as the first PCA charart I made with GIMP. I'm not sure about the highlights. What do you guys think? 00:07, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur/smugg the ear pink, and lighten the whole image. 00:19, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights a little and blur them. 00:38, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Moonflight, when you use the blur tool, turn the rate up to 100. Not sure if you knew that. But anyways, lighten the entire image and make the nose colour darker. 01:06, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the image, and brighten the highlights. Also, when you make a black cat, make sure you fill it in with a very dark grey, instead of solid black. Also, darken the shading. I love the way you did the ear pink, by the way! 01:22, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

It looks as if you've colored his pelt with solid black, because I can't see the lineart. My suggestion is to redo the image, using a dark gray for the pelt like Nightflower said. You can try lightening it, though. 03:09, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I didn't use black, but it was close. I redid it and completely did away with the highlights. 03:17, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Much better! Blur and thicken the shading. 04:13, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Blur highlights and shading. ℳĨ₰₮ ₣ĨȒ€ Happy New Year!  16:35, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

lighten him just a little bit, and smug the ear pink with the black. 06:17, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I redid him. Comments? 18:25, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and darken the whole image; right now it looks dark gray. Add shading under the chin and lighten the ear pink-- 00:17, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Bleck...comments? 18:54, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good job. Darken the shading on the tail. 17:43, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * lighten the front legs more*Wildfire* 15:01, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading under the chin on the right side, blur the shading thoroughly, darken the nose colour, smudge the black into the ear pink-- night  shine  ❄ 02:08, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Add/brighten the highlights. 21:26, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Ah. Much better. 22:17, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight a bit and make it a bit bigger as well. Looks great. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:00, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't add highlights. 00:20, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay then just thin out the shading a bit on the haunch. =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:10, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think I can without it looking messed up. Sorry. 19:34, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image. Just dodge it on like .5% and then maybe we'll be able to see the lineart better. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:20, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 10:27, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a bit and blur it-- Night  shine  01:01, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ugh Blackstar is white with black ears and paws KAT 03:20, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

This is an alternate picture. Hence the "Alt. L" on the heading. Please sign with four tildes (~) on talk pages like this. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:15, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur highlights and shading.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  05:01, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay everyone. I am working on this, so please leave this as it is. 19:55, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights around the neck 17:29, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reploaded17:23, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the front leg highlights go up and down the legs.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  02:19, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Um...huh? 23:38, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken nose colour-- Night  shine  02:27, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading between the legs. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 21:15, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (Alt. Apprentice) - For Approval
Oh, meow. Cinderpelt, with a deformed leg, as an apprentice. I tried my new style with shading, then blurred it. Honestly it's better than before. The earpink didn't work so well for me. Comments? 00:45, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and straighten it out a little (if that makes sense) and blur the haunch highlight. 01:47, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the highlights. 01:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded: Straightened the ear pink; blurred, and blurred the highlights as well. Constructments? 01:56, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

It needs to be long-haired. 04:45, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 03:15, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 18:47, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

It has been a week since Icestorm has reuploaded this. May I take over? 01:41, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Wait a few more days-- 15:53, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Icestorm's computer broke. She might not be back for about 10 more days. 16:38, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, do I have permission to take over? Is it possible you could ask her? Or, shall we wait? 16:42, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

We should wait. 20:52, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work-- 00:21, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I am reposting this, Icestorm's computer had only just began working again. 23:04, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll get started right away. 17:25, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Re-Uploaded: Done. 15:43, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the highlights and the earpink. 16:41, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be bigger and triangular, and the highlights blurred. It looks great though! 18:35, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks Great! Just darken the image a little more so it looks more like her other chararts. 18:46, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, they just look like circles of pale gray. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 14:47, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Someone can take over on this since Ice has left for a little while-- night  shine  ❄ 02:07, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'll do it! Ravensoul101 02:36, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger, and more blurred.

Blur the shading. Brighten and make the earpink into a more triangular shape. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:34, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten** --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 07:09, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Are you working on this, Ravensoul? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:21, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ravensoul e-mailed me last night and told me that the wiki isn't letting him edit anything. It happened to me once, but it only lasted a day. 00:47, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the hi-lites on the shoulder and haunch.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  18:14, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink is unnaturally bright, tone it down a bit. 21:13, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

If Ravensoul still isn't able to edit this, I think somebody else should take over. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:16, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Test... Test... Ravensoul101 15:35, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

It works! Yay! I'll work on it. I'm going to re-do the highlights and shading ompleatly. They really aren't workin for me. BRB Ravensoul101 15:37, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

If you're up to it maybe you could add just a tiny bit of a paw on the other side of the haunch? It looks like there's actually no leg right now XD --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 07:03, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Can you help me with the blurring? Pixlr is KILLING me. Ravensoul101 02:58, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I'll do that right now. If you really hate pixlr, though, you can download GIMP for free. That's what I use, and it's wonderful XD --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:05, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred it a bunch. There was also some blurred lineart that I fixed, which meant I had to change the earpink a bit. Hope that's okay. Did I help? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:46, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

The line art on the far foot is too thick, also I suggest you get rid of the clump of black pixels around the hind foot-- Night  shine  16:47, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Wildheart- My dad won't let me download it, and, thanks a ton! Ravensoul101 03:38, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't really look like her leg is deformed. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 22:09, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's a little hard since it's the hind leg on the other side, but I guess I can make it a little curved. Ravensoul101 04:51, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tried my best.... :S Ravensoul101 16:42, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading so it's fading smoothly into the pelt.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  05:00, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and try to make the foot lineart curling up, like her medicine cat charart --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:20, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined--- Night  shine  02:26, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm back! Had to buy a new computer. My three-year-old sister snapped some wires, and it died. Got a new one, and re-uploaded. Can somone help me a little more with blurring? Ravensoul101 03:42, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

The foot lineart looks great! Too bad about your computer. I suppose I could help if you want... --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:02, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Berrynose (Alt. A) - For Approval
first carart project cat *Wildfire* 23:53, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the patches, and make them a pale gray so the shading will show up. Darken the shading under the chin and on his left foreleg and hind leg. Darken the ear-pink. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:55, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rainbreath already has this reserved so it will be declined-- 23:57, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

My mistake, Rainbreath has his kit image reserved. No one else has this currently reserved so it is fine. Rename this Berrynose.apprentice.alt.png. Blur the patches of white and darken the shading.-- 23:58, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

um.. no she reserved the alt. kit*Wildfire* 00:02, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Get rid of the tail, and make the stump look the the warrior image. 00:06, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Not bad! Blur the shading, there is too much of a *searches for word* difference, if you know what I mean. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 01:11, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

do i get rid of the tail or not and how do i reupload it*Wildfire* 02:05, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

get rid of the tail. You re-upload it by left clicking on the image, clicking on 'open link' and then going to the bottom of the page it takes you to and clicking 'upload new verson', or some saying like that. 02:53, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

i would also like to join project carart*Wildfire* 03:13, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded*Wildfire* 03:17, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the tail look more natural like in his apprentice charart. Blur the shading a ton and blur the earpink. 03:21, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the white patches, make the ear pink more reddish, darken the shading-- 03:32, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *Wildfire* 15:47, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

can i join project carart? *Wildfire* 15:49, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *Wildfire* 16:23, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sure I'll add you in. Smudge the white patches. Darken the shading a lot, especially on the white areas. Darken the ear pink-- 19:58, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

what else do i need before the 24 hrs. can start?*Wildfire* 22:09, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Um, what Nightshine said above your comment? And it's not that easy, you know. Most chararts need truckloads of work, and just a couple re-uploads won't get you very far. Should I also suggest blurring the white patch on the muzzle more? It looks sort of unnatural right now. -- 22:40, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

okay, sorry *Wildfire* 22:48, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, no. It's not your fault. I'm just saying, don't get too impatient with yourself, 'kay? :3 -- 22:52, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

yah i understand but i was being a little rude*Wildfire* 23:04, January 10, 2011 (UTC) 

Make the skinny gray area between the forearm and the chest white and darken the shading there. Smudge all the white patches, darken the ear pink, blur the shading and highlights-- 01:38, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded*Wildfire* 01:03, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the white transition, make the gray area in front of his fore arm white, blur the shading and highlights, -- 04:13, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *Wildfire* 21:54, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. 00:55, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *Wildfire* 15:37, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading some more and brighten the earpink. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 22:49, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Rename it Berrynose.apprentice.alt.png please :) 21:44, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

i don't know how i tried but couldn't so how do i rename it *Wildfire* 00:26, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

You reupload the image with the correct name. 02:53, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

i dont know how could you please help*Wildfire* 02:12, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

okay i got it*Wildfire* 22:02, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading and highlights more consistent. 06:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink some. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:28, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

This technique of shading looks awesome! Only blur the shading a bit.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  03:50, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded *Wildfire* 17:13, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch and shoulder. 19:10, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink some more. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:32, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- Night  shine  01:01, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

sorry i will get to work Wild  fire  03:40, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded Wild  fire  03:47, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the bottom of the haunch shading, lighten the earpink, and blur the shading some more. Better, though =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:50, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose since Wildfire's leaving =( this means this is up for grabs. Speak now or forever hold you peace, people. --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:58, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

-speaks- I will do et! xD 16:21, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

i said kittycat or nightshine could have it sorry Wild  fire  16:31, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Wildfire, you don't really have a say over that. There's a lot of new users who haven't even done a single charart, and this is one of their only opportunities. 17:58, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Rainlegs is right, any user who isn't currently working on a charart can take over on this-- Night  shine  16:45, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

So...I can do it? 17:48, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you can. :) 19:14, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:50, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

There is some colour outside of the line art, fix that, get rid of the clump of black on the hindfoot, darken the shading, take the line art from Berrynose's apprentice image for the tail. Add some more white areas, add ear pink-- Night  shine  23:27, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Bah, I think I made it worse. 23:26, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the patches and shading and brighten the earpink so it shows up more. 173.183.120.76 02:54, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

(computer logged me out. that was me, sorry) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:25, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I added more white and redid the shading. 22:10, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and maybe lighten the gray a tad. 18:17, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened shading, I think it looks too dark now. 21:10, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks pretty dark on the white part on his head. Lighten it a little. 04:43, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Define the white patches, get rid of the gray speckles around the charart, and the shading just looks more like a darker shade of gray rather than shading. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 02:39, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried a different style, a back light source. 22:30, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Just darken the light pixles on his right paw. 04:19, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry about the bits of grey around him, it's the way I shade. 20:33, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink and eye colour. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 07:37, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

The white looks too gray.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  03:29, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I understand that the gray is shading but 1) hardly any white spots 2) just barely blur the shading, hardly <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:turquoise;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  You have a sailor's mouth!  01:01, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

There is so much shading on the white it looks gray, and the white markings don't look natural- just like one big swooping line down the cat, if you know what I mean. 05:26, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I added more white, and redid the shading again. 16:43, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

The gray and white areas just don't look natural. Try looking up a picture of a gray-and-white cat to get ideas. Lighten the ear pink a bit. Night shine  05:15, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the comment, Nightshine. I think finding a ref helped a bit. c: 22:43, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe add some gray to the fore arms, lighten the ear pink a bit, smudge the gray parts, lighten the white areas-- Night  shine  02:26, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Nightshine, what do you mean about adding gray to the forearms? They're supposed to be white. 00:34, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

It will give the charart a more balanced look-- Night  shine  00:16, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Tawnypelt(Alt. W)- For approval
I did the best I could, but idk... 01:12, January 22, 2011 (UTC)Mintstarr (Talk)

I moved this to the right section. I don't see her being mentioned as cream coloured in the trivia night  shine  ❄ 01:15, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I believe this is for her tawny colored alternate. The reference is I believe on page 3 of Midnight. 02:55, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Assuming this has a correct reference for now: Tawnypelt should be more ginger or orange-colored; this looks too brown/cream. The earpink is too small and too light, make it dark redder and a tad larger. Add a clearly visible highlight to the tail, and brighten the highlights. Darken the shading, make it thicker, and blur them thoroughly. In my opinion, the ear could use a slight highlight; it looks a little dark right now. -- 02:59, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I'll add that to her trivia. As for the image, blur the highlights and shading, make the ear pink more reddish. Right now this looks cream colour and it should be tawny (ginger) -- night  shine  ❄ 03:00, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Tawnypelt.warrior.alt.png 09:19, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I will fix all of this, but did I do the shading right? Mintstarr (Talk) 14:30, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks fine :P The ear pink needs to be redon badly, it looks more like a circle right now. Blur the shading on the front leg a bit. Other then that, nice work. 17:06, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I can't reupload the file because I'm getting a message saying, file type verification error. Mintstarr (Talk 17:59, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Better? Mintstarr (Talk) 19:26, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Move the shoulder highlight down and it still needs to be more orange. Make the ear pink smaller and more red, and blur the shading. 19:33, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

If you want to know what color she should be look at her alternate kit image. Also, blur the tail shading and make the shoulder highlight more oval shaped. 21:27, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, scratch that with the alternate kit. Just do what Iceheart said and make it more ginger. ;) 21:31, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

The shading could still be darker. The earpink looks unnatural, fix that, please. It should be darker red and more saturated, as well as more consistent and more evenly dark. Also shade her midriff, please. -- 21:20, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't think I shaded the midriff right. I made more ginger and made her earpink smaller and redder. Mintstarr (Talk) 23:10, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton and darken the earpink. The midriff shading should be from the middle of her back to her stomach. 01:01, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I fixed the earpink and shading. Mintstarr (Talk) 23:19, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading some more and perhaps make her a bit more tawny (gingery brown) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:03, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- the shading has been blurred. Mintstarr (Talk) 22:08, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

It still needs to be more tawny-coloured. Tawny is a gingery-brown, whereas this is more of a pale yellowy-ginger. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:33, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- it is gingery-browner. Mintstarr (Talk)Mintstarr 01:10, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

It could still be more ginger, and blur the shading. 01:41, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- it is more ginger and the shading has been blurred Mintstarr (Talk) 22:31, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

It should still be more richer ginger. Is this your idea of ginger? This is mango. Take a look at Tawnypelt's alternate kit image or Cherrykit's image to get an idea, Mintstarr. You've been asked to make this image ginger many times, and I still don't think you've gotten the idea. Thanks, -- 23:17, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Also, you've named it wrong. Please rename it Tawnypelt.warrior.alt, thanks. -- 23:21, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's so much the ginger aspect she's missing, but the brown. Right now it's a ginger. A pale ginger, but a ginger nonetheless. You need to make it a little more brown. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 23:50, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the hi-lites. Mist fire I'd like fries with that 02:19, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I borrowed the pelt color from her alternate kit image so if it isn't tawny I was lied to. Mintstarr 18:14, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

(sigh) Mintstarr, I made Tawnypelt's alternate kit image, and you weren't "lied to". -_- It still could be a tad more saturated. Try comparing it again:



See how it looks a tad more ginger? That's the color I think Tawnypelt's alternate warrior image should be. I hope you understand! :) Thanks, -- 19:37, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Her alternate kit image wasn't tawny-colored though. it was pale ginger like Goldenflower. It needs to be more brownish and the shading needs to be blurred a ton. 00:56, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- it should be more ginger. User:Mintstarr 01:03, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

It needs to be more brown, right now it just looks yellow. This is the color of a tawny-colored cat: link. The shading still needs to be blurred too. 01:22, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the hi-lites.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  19:16, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- more brown or more ginger? sigh... Mintstarr (Talk) 23:38, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more red, blur the shading, and maybe darken the entire image to make it look more likr the kit. 19:12, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Hows that? Mintstarr (Talk) 00:27, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

The image still needs to be a light brown. I wouldn't use the kit image as a referance, because it's ginger. Also, make the earpink a tad smaller, it's kinda falling out of the ear right now, and blur the shading on her haunch. 01:17, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Sasha doesn't have this pelt color and she is a tawny cat. Mintstarr 17:35, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink duller and this still needs to be brown-er. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 01:27, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Mintstarr (Talk) Mintstarr 20:54, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this really needs to be browner. Here is a picture of a tawny-coloured cat. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:11, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading. 01:15, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

The hi-lites seem to be just... there, when they should be smoothly flowing into the pelt.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  14:53, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I found the colors off the internet so which one is tawny-er, excluding highlights and shading? Mintstarr (Talk) Mintstarr 16:38, February 5, 2011 (UTC)



The one on the right, but it would need to be a little lighter, and not as orange-y. The one on the left is too cream-colored. 16:43, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rainlegs. Would be much better. =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y undefined)Mintstarr 16:36, February 6, 2011 (UTC)m y t h o u g h t s. 23:31, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Mintstarr (Talk Mintstarr 16:36, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

A little less orange, and a tad more brown, but other then that, tou have the right idea. :) 16:41, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded-  Mintstarr (Talk) Mintstarr 19:29, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

The Ear-Pink I personally think looks to red. Try to brighten it and make it more pinkish.♥♥♥Valentine♥♥♥ 19:49, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Enlarge the highlights and blur them. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:23, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm having trouble uploading the new image. I'll upload it, change it to full size, and the I get a screen telling me a photo with the same name (old one) already exists. When I click, "overwrite the existing photo with yours," the old one shows up again instead of the new one. Help please. Mintstarr (Talk) Mintstarr 18:29, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry. It almost always takes forever for the photo to update itself. Right now it's a pretty brown color, but just lighten it a tad. You're almost there. :) 01:21, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I lightened it a tad.<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  03:24, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more. 22:11, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  17:18, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thats better...the highlighting on the back and paws could probably be just a little bit lighter 23:32, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes,I agree with Mistystar. The paws and back could use a little more highlighting 23:54, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink so it's color doesn't blend with the pelt so much, and blur the shading. 01:15, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- should be fixed<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  16:10, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

You need to name the image 'Tawnypelt . warrior . alt' 16:14, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the chest highlight and add some highlights to the front legs. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:54, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Better? I'm seeing the original picture so it might be loading?<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  00:42, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 18:17, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- could someone tell me how to tell if the shading, highlights, and earpink need to be blurred (any image, not being specific)<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  00:06, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Mostly it's if your shading or highlights or earpink looks really obvious, if you know what I mean? The shading/earpink/highlights need to look soft, like they were created by the sun, not by your computer =) Like if there are straight lines or if it just all around looks like you USED a pixellated brush to make the highlights/shading/earpink? I don't really know how to explain it. Hope I helped... --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:19, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur or lighten where the highlights meet the shading by the chest a tad. 00:11, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- it'll be up in a second I'm experimenting<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  00:29, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Good! Blur the hi-lites.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  00:50, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

And the shading. And fix it so the earpink is not touching the lineart. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:17, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Should be better <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  00:54, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, I realized this photo has gone a day without comments, so should it of been approved? <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:turquoise;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  You have a sailor's mouth!  01:05, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

No, a lead must say CBA? for it to be in the twenty-four hour stage. Make the earpink more noticeable and make the shading more consistent. 99.58.17.98 21:01, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

More consistent?<span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:turquoise;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  You have a sailor's mouth!  22:00, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think s/he means that it's darker in some places, and lighter in others, so even it out. Blur the shading, add neck shading, and blur the highligts, too. Also, this is a very fluorescent shade of ginger, for a pale ginger cat. Lighten her. 05:21, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, is this an alt for her being described as tawny coloured? Tawny is light brown, not ginger! 05:23, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shoulder highlight.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  04:30, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Would someone mind fixing the shading so it could be more consistent as that contributor said? I'm not sure I could. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:turquoise;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  You have a sailor's mouth!  21:20, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Fixed everything but the consistency, which I'll need help with. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:turquoise;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  You have a sailor's mouth!  01:55, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten and define the ear pink, blur the highlights-- Night  shine  05:14, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:turquoise;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  You have a sailor's mouth!  23:50, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink more, desturate it, blur the highlights-- Night  shine  02:24, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

You might want to blur the shading a bit too. River pelt StarClan's Chosen One XD 15:30, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- should be better. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:turquoise;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  You have a sailor's mouth!  00:32, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe give her amber eyes since she was described with those too. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:18, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. Otherwise, looks pretty :) 23:29, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfur (Alt. W)- For Approval
He was mentioned as a russet warrior in Night Whispers, so here he is. :) Comments? 03:07, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Where in Night Whispers? Anyway, lighten the earpink a tad and make the scar a little longer and more pink-ish. Looks great, though! 03:14, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

As I stated on the IRC, I don't think he should get an alternate for this because russet is very similar to ginger and he has been described as ginger multiple times throughout the series. -- Night  shine  03:24, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well can we see what others think? Oh and he was mentioned as russet on page 127 of Night Whispers. 03:28, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think he deserves an alternate. Russet is more reddish dark brown, while golden brown is..well..yellow/orangeish. Darken the stripes, and define them. Lighten the shading on his front legs. Lighten the ear-pink and blur it. 03:34, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

The point is that he has been described as ginger many times and this is ginger. -- Night  shine  03:41, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Russet means dark brown with a tint of red. This will stay. 03:48, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

The shading could probably be shaded a little bit. His front leg looks a little too dark. But it looks pretty good otherwise. Mintstarr (Talk) 22:02, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Mintstarr, I didn't know what you meant by shading the shading, so maybe clear that up a bit. XD 22:26, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights look a little pinkish and could use some blurring, but you did a beautiful job! :) Mist fire I'd like fries with that 23:58, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. The scar is kinda odd. The colour is...hot pink/purple and it just looks like a line. 02:37, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink so it shows up more. Looks good. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:15, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I think I didn't do too much to the scar, so if you want me to change it more I will. DX The reason why it was a line was because I tried to make it look kind of like the one on his warrior charart, but I guess I made it too straight. :P

Oh, wow, I forgto to sign. XD That was me. 23:45, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno. The scar looks fine to me. But it looks good =) Blur the shading/highlights transition some more and enlarge the earpink. --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:08, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:26, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make the hi-lites on the shoulder and haunch match the head hi-lite.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  17:09, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

They do match... 99.58.17.98 19:55, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

That was me. Sorry, I was logged out. DX 19:57, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit and make it triangular, darken the stripes, make the haunch highlight more even-- Night  shine  20:11, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 02:42, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Center the earpink and blur the highlights. 02:47, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that typo. I originally meant blur the shading, but now it looks great except the tail shading could be blurred a little Minstarr (Talk)75.91.249.254 17:32, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 16:29, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  14:47, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I know I just joined. The top of the tail might need to go with the rest of his body color because it is a much lighter shade. ♥♥♥Valentine♥♥♥ 19:37, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

I tried sharpening it, but it didn't go so well. XD Oh and Valentine, it's a lighter shade because I added highlights to it. 21:09, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink, blur the haunch highlight, darken the tail stripes near the tip, define the scar and the stripes-- Night  shine  00:59, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 02:34, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hang on, I'm going to re-do it. :P 02:45, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''It hasn't shown the changes yet so.... 03:41, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink's a little large, and the shading needs to be blurred, but other then that, this look spectacular! 01:13, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the scar -pang of envy, sorry I'm feeling that way today ._.- 03:28, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

I meant to brighten the scar a little, sorry 03:29, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''When I blurred it the stripes got all messed up so sorry if it isn't blurred enough. :P 15:24, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his back and neck a little more, and define the scar. Stripes look fine to me. 15:30, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded... ''' 15:46, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the head and shoulder highlights a tad.<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  16:11, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think the head highlights are fine, and if I blur the shoulder highlight andymore the stripes will become less visible. 16:29, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and define the ear pink. Looks epic Rainers :D 00:57, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Rainy! Blur the hi-lights around the neck-area a tad. :D 01:03, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes; if you wish to follow what Nighty said, you might want to just smudge them a bit, because they're kind of indistinct and blurring them might make them even more so. The lineart on the top of the head is kind of faded, too. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:55, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I redid it again. :3 Oh and I blurred the shading to the max, so it probably can't be blurred anymore. XD 21:06, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes :) 21:09, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the tail stripes and make the scar a little curved so it looks more natural-- Night  shine  23:25, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, but I don't think it has shown the changes yet. If it doesn't seem to look different in a while, tell me because I've had uploading problems with this. XD 22:36, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

This is great! Just make the scar a little... less noticable.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  00:47, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

And blur it. XD  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  04:34, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- Night  shine  05:33, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. XD I'm working on it right now. 99.58.17.98 14:55, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Oh that was me... wasn't logged in. It won't let me reupload the new image. 15:04, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading >:) 15:36, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''The shading can't be blurred anymore. >.> I already said that. 17:16, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great Raineh! if you can't blur the shading any more, then at least lighten it.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:21, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks fine to me, the line art where the scar touches is thinner than the rest, fix that. Make the ear pink more centered in the ear-- Night  shine  18:08, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 21:40, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish-- Night  shine  05:13, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think it looks ok. I tried making it more red but the color just blended in with the pelt too much. 99.58.17.98 02:26, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

-Facepalm- Sorry, I was logged out again. 21:03, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

But the colour it is right now clashes too muh with the pelt. Make it a dark red like this:  Night  shine  00:12, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Macgyver (W) - For Approval
Which one is better? I used different smudging methods-- Night  shine  21:03, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

The right one.But they both look too gray instead of white.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  21:08, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

The right one, and last time I checked, Magyver was a tom. 21:16, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah, my mistake. I've fixed it. I'll keep the right one. Night shine  21:25, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make it like his kittypet image. 21:29, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean?-- Night  shine  21:48, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means, make the spots and patches more like his kittypet charart so that they match. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 22:10, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred the patches some more and made the white area a bit lighter-- Night  shine  00:20, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white much brighter and make the patches more like his kittypet version. 01:05, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I redid him-- Night  shine  20:45, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Bravo, Nightshine! Blur the ear pink a tad. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:47, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks much better, Nightshine. The ear pink is a bit like an oval at the bottom, blur it a teensy bit. 20:53, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred ear pink-- Night  shine  21:01, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white match the kittypet image. 21:12, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Can you explain?-- Night  shine  21:40, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

its to silver right now, maybe brighten it a bit. 21:51, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't this the she-cat blank? Macgyver was a tom, the last time I checked. Marluxia; The Graceful Assassin  02:08, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded fixed blank. Iceheart, it looks fine on my screen, maybe it's your computer that's making it look darker?-- Night  shine  00:10, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

It looks silver to me, too. -- 01:30, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps you could brighten the highlights a tad, but I think it's just the shading that looks silver. Or at least, it's that way for me. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:17, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Try brightening the shading, not so dark and maybe it won't look to silver for those who say it is.<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  16:13, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

There aren't any highlights on this, the shading just makes the white areas look darker, but the rest of it is still white.-- Night  shine  18:54, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the white areas, then. The shading looks fine to me, Mintstarr. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:57, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded brightened white areas-- Night  shine  16:40, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

That black box on the bottom of the hindleg, is that part of the black or a blur mistake? And back there I was recomending that because some people were saying it looked to silver when it really didn't.<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  00:49, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Black box?-- Night  shine  00:53, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

See on the hindleg where the black from the paw and the haunch would meet? And that little dot? Is that blurred lineart or is that part of the color?<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  01:18, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

That's just part of the line art-- Night  shine  01:20, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail a bit more. 69.209.55.152 15:10, February 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that was me, I got logged out. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:48, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred tail shading-- Night  shine  01:13, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  00:40, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. (Wildheart who is too lazy to log in)

Hm, well if someone else thinks I should make it more triangular then I will --

I know it's not my place to say this, as I am neither a lead nor even a warrior, but since none of the leads are active (save for you, Nightshine) I feel I must. Does anyone else think this should be approved? Nobody has even commented on this for a while, and I'm thinking it's because it's good enough and there's nothing to say. Forgive me if I'm out of line, but I just thought I should say something. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:11, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'll talk to Frostheart on the IRC to see if she can put this on CBA. -- Night  shine  00:50, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yay. I can finally edit. XD CBA? 00:54, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me being finicky, but blur the shading on his chest and behind his ear. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 02:29, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred shading-- Night  shine  02:47, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Jayfeather (Alt. MCA)~ For Approval
Comments? 03:28, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! It doesn't look like he has a pupil, though, and the image needs to be named 'Jayfeather.mca.alt' 03:31, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights, lighten the ear-pink, give him a pupil, and add shading to the herbs. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:35, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Its sad i forgot the pupil XD. 05:05, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 15:39, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 00:53, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the fore arms, blur the shading, darken the belly shading, blur the ear pink and darken it-- Night  shine  07:02, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 00:58, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading/highlight transition. Looks good =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:19, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 01:28, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink a tad. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:29, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken him a bit, as this looks dark gray. 09:57, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

This is good. ^U^ Lighten shading a bit.  Sakura -chan   ♥  15:30, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 16:42, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the legs 16:55, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

There is shading on the legs, and if i add anymore than it will be inpossible to blur. 18:18, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the chest area near the forearm and darken the shading on the far hind leg-- Night  shine  16:38, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 23:46, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Darken the tail hi-lite.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  02:45, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Going away for the weekend, see you sunday/monday! 17:14, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a touch more purplish.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  00:33, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think the ear pink is fine the way it is. 04:35, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree that the ear pink looks pretty good. However, the shading looks like a gradient to me. . . ? Ehhh, maybe it's just me, but I think it looks funny. I guess I can understand that you probably wouldn't want to redo it and it still looks really good, but it needs to be blurred, too. 05:16, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mossy is right, the shading does look like a gradient. maybe move the haunch highlight to the middle of the haunch.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  04:41, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Thanks dovesong. If i move the highligh any more into the center it wouldnt make sense with the light source. 06:01, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Can you get rid of the clump of black pixels on the back foot? Darken the neck shading and lower chest shading -- Night  shine  18:05, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 00:36, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

There is still a clump of black pixels on the back foot. Desaturate the ear pink and blur it Night  shine  00:09, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Halftail (Alt. W) - For Approval
Here's Halftail's alternate warrior. Comments? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 00:08, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make the tail more curved. 00:10, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks kind of...blurry. Did you save it as a jpg.? Either way, lighted the shading on the haunches. 01:53, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think the tail's fine as it is. Have you seen a cat with a gimped up tail? They don't really have full control of it. @Lone Wolf; it's a .png and looks fine to me. Maybe it's your computer? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:32, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe add a few more stripes to his back? It looks a little.... bare. And if the shading's coming from the front-ish, he would have highlights on his feet. 03:48, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added highlights. I'd add more stripes, but I'm basing it off of his warrior pixel... so... yeah. Comments? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:23, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

I still think the tail should look more like the one oblivion did. That one looked good. 04:51, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:02, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with Iceheart, just take the line art from the tail of the old picture, and paste it over this one. -- Night  shine  07:14, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

It must've been, it looks fine now. The chin shading looks a bit odd. 15:02, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changed tail lineart. Lightened chin shading. Be more specific in what you mean, Lone Wolf. Comments? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:27, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights on his right front leg a little more. This looks great! 15:19, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, Rainlegs! I didn't know if you meant his right leg or our right leg, so I blurred both. Better? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:09, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Better. :) I meant his right leg. 03:13, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks =) Comments? --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:19, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe your should make it look more like the tail got chopped off not like it's just short (dont meen to be rude) But thats just what I think. -- ♥  Spottedleaf   ღ  <font color="#FF0066">❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❥ 03:46, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

I had it like that before, but two people wanted me to change it so I did. If you can get somebody else to agree, then I'll change it back. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:50, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I agree as well with Spottedleaf. As for the image, darken the tail stripes a bit, blur the stripes some, and add one or two more stripes to the face-- Night  shine  16:37, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

If his tail got chopped off, I believe it did can't quite remember, then Spottedleaf is right. Yeah, stripes could be blurred.<span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:khaki;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  Don't startle that Witch!  00:58, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

So I should change the lineart back to what I first had? I'm confused. I thought you wanted me to change it before, Nightshine. (working on image, will reupload in a sec) 173.183.120.76 03:00, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

That was me, sorry. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:27, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded So should I change the tail lineart back to my original tail, Nightshine? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:57, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur stripes.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  03:21, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:25, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur them even more. Then make the earpink a touch more purpleish.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  23:27, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Tweaked earpink and blurred stripes. I think it looks worse, but it's you guys' call... --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:58, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think the ear pink looks great. The entire charart looks great. Just blur the shading a bit. 05:14, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, blur the shading, and also lighten it on the front leg farthest from us.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  04:45, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, Mosspool! Comments? --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:01, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more red. 02:54, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks good to me. Comments before approval?-- Night  shine  00:08, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Comments? Concerns? I hope I posted it right! 01:27, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know why the file is named mail, but change it to Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png. Make it look like a warrior version of his alternate apprentice image-- Night  shine  01:31, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it's named mail because I emailed it to Splashpelt. As for the image, make it more brown and darken the ear pink. :3 01:33, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Far from good. I still have to fix the outline and get rid of that mysterious shading coming from it. Just letting you know I'm still here. I made it more like his apprentice version. More golden. 00:32, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Now he looks way too neon. Copy his colors from his other alt. chararts and match the stripe pattern. Blur the ear-pink and lighten it. Darken the shading and add a highlight to his shoulder, face, and brighten the one on his tail. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:50, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... Less green. 18:49, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. It should be more yellow/golden than yellow green. ✳ M  is  ty  st  ar   ✳   <font color="#9920F5" style="background:white;">Trust the fire within...  

'''Re-uploaded. '''You are so right. Way too yellow! Stripes = Fail. I copied the colors 23:20, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Better:) Make the stripes a bit neater ( no offense! ), and make the ear pink a little more triangular.  ✳  M  is  ty  st  ar   ✳   <font color="#9920F5" style="background:white;">Trust the fire within...  

Can you give him a pupil, too? 01:23, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Add eye color and the ear pink seems too bright. You really need to make it, well, more golden. The stripes look kind of odd as well, I suggest you redo them. 20:37, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, add the pupil. Make the stripes like the ones on his alt. apprentice. 21:31, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''You're so right, the stripes... Are these better? :D 02:14, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Maybe add one more to the base of the tail, make the ear pink paler, and blur the stripes some more. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 02:16, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Also, can you add some more stripes to his legs, one on his head, and one on the spot where his tail meets his body? [Well, really, his butt. :P] It also looks like he's missing some eye lineart, and the lineart's blurred on his back, front [his left] left leg, chest fur, and his tail. [It's either blurred or it's all weird/ slightly fuzzy.] 04:21, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make his stripes narrower, blurred, maybe add a few more, lighten the ear pink a little, blur it...and thats it, I think :D 22:43, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great Splashy :D! Just blur the stripes, and add a face hi-lite.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  03:53, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah you can look on one of the tutorials for the eye lineart. Also, you don't need to keep reuploading the file as a new one every time; remember to click "upload a new version of this file" on the file details page. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:08, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. 22:38, February 18, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur shading, stripes, and highlights. Fix the eye pixel; you'll have to tweak the lineart. Use a pencil on the one-pixel size with a hard edge and follow ^ this picture ^ Add a few more smaller stripes and change the largest back stripe so that it's not almost-touching that chest stripe. Much better =) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:26, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Still working on that eye! *groan.* I will do it right next time. 00:03, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripe on his chest thinner and curl all of them a bit to look a bit like this --->

which is Tigerheart's regular warrior charart. Try to match the stripe pattern. Make the ear pink a bit more pink, right now it looks kinda orangey and give him a torn ear. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 01:07, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Splashpelt doesn't have to match his original charart's stripes. This is an alternate; you can do whatever you want. Blur the stripes a bit more. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:29, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Blur the stripes, and make them a bit thinner, they're sorta blocky.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  00:28, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How about this stripe pattern? 02:15, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks better! Tone down the earpink color, though. 02:22, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

OH! I just realized I forgot the torn ear! 02:23, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and fix the eye lineart!! =) Darken the shading as well. --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:44, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm really sorry I haven't had a post in a day or so! I will have it done by this evening, my computer is having some problems! 22:18, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'll fix the ear, don't worry:) 00:56, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the stripes are overlapping onto the lineart.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  03:35, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

The eye pixel should be more noticeable. Look at some other approved chararts to see what it should look like-- Night  shine  05:28, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

The line-art is a little blurred on the front foot closest to us. -Sunheart- 07:44, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Kay, I'm practicing my eye lineart...sorry for the big delay! I'll have it up tomorrow! 02:03, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Why can't I do eyes? 02:28, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the stripes more. It looks a bit messed up. 02:36, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink paler, it looks too neon. Darken the shading, and try to match the stripe pattern in his alt. apprentice charart. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 01:23, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and fix the eyes! If you need help, I will assist =P --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 20:01, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Ok, Had to let you know I'm still here. I know the stripes are blotchy but some people say follow his alt. apprentice stripes and others say warrior stripes. What one? And Wildheart, I left the eyes blank because I need a little tutorial or something. The apprentice tutorials didn't help! 21:12, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's not too hard. Just take the pencil tool, set it to a one-pixel brush, and modify the lineart. The blank linearts you download on the mainpage have a weird eye lineart. You have to draw over the lineart. Best thing to do to ensure accuracy is to download that picture I posted ^above^ and open it in your editing program in another window. Then open up Tigerheart's image and zoom in on the eye. Adjust the screen so that both the windows are open beside each other and then you can see when you make a mistake. Hope I helped. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 21:20, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and you don't need to reupload a new file every time you make a change. Just click the little button that says "upload a new version of this file" or something like that. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 22:43, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Follow his alt. apprentice stripes. It makes the most sense since they're both alts. 02:52, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Brook (alt.W) ~ For Approval


Brook, as described on page 216 of Sunset. Comments? 23:39, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, make the ear pink less purply, and make sure that the shading and highlights are on the stripes. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:09, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, and the earpink is kind of crooked. And the stripes look like they're overlapping onto the lineart.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  00:19, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Definatly blur the stripes, darken the shading a tad, shrink the earpink so it's not hanging out of the ear, and make it a more natural, darker color. Also, fix the lineart, because the stripes are covering the lineart, and there's some weird white stripes on her tail-tip. 00:32, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded 17:33, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Can a cat be gray and have brown stripes? Also, center the ear pink. 23:47, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, it does seem weird. I checked again, and it said gray-brown. so should it be gray and brown, or solid colored? 23:52, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes still need blurring...  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  04:57, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

But if it says gray-brown, would it mean gray-brown as a solid color, or mixed colors/tabby? 17:09, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. (blurred stripes) 18:19, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! But I do think that the color is a solid gray-brown instead of tabby. 01:41, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Shrink the earpink a tad, darken it a little, (So it isn't such an un-natural color) and I agree with Nightflower. 02:43, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. '''I didn't change the color though; I think it looks fine as a tabby, but if more people think it should be solid colored, I'll change it. 19:21, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not officially a member yet, but I couldn't help commenting. Is it just me, or is the eye plain white? I thought that was a bit odd... Paleclaw 02:01, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I checked Brook's page and her alternate description was 'gray-brown', not gray and brown tabby striped. Also, the ear pink is a bit. . . ummm. . .lumpy looking and it's very purple-ish. I can see that her eye isn't plain white, but it is a very light shade of gray so darken it. The lineart is also smeared where some of the stripes are. Considering all that you have to change, removing the stripes, changing her eye colour. . . I would suggest just redoing it. 05:12, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll re do it. I did gray and brown instead of gray-brown, because I didn't think there would actually be a gray brown color, since they are so diffferent, but I'll try. 16:44, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 17:03, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights are looking a little blotchy. Smooth them, and lighten the face highlight to match the shoulder and haunch.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">Epic Fail  03:29, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make this a little more brown-ish. The ear pink should be a more red colour, the line art is blurred in a few areas and it looks thin on the chest.-- Night  shine  05:27, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is too triangular. Blur it please >:D 15:41, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't look like the right earpink color. Blur highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:turquoise;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  You have a sailor's mouth!  21:26, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Move the earpink to the middle of the ear. 02:38, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, Re-Uploaded. Comments? 23:08, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink still needs to be more red. Echostar229 04:57, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Move the earpink a little bit upper. 11:24, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink is centered already, but I'll change the color more redder. 22:57, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 23:28, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink some. There's something wrong with the lineart on the bottom of the chest and on the front left leg (her left) --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:06, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Oh, I never noticed. I'll fix it later :D 22:44, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

It just looks dark grey now, make it more brown. 02:50, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I'll change that now. 22:46, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. Comments? '''Sorry for being impatient, but I think thats good enough and doesn't need more fixing, but thats just my opinion... 22:59, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

The line art is thin in many places, I can fix it if you'd like. Move the ear pink up and desaturate it. Darken the shading and make this a little more brownish-- Night  shine  00:07, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Can you do it for me, please? 00:15, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded okay. You just need to darken the shading, make the ear pink more reddish, and move the ear pink up-- Night  shine  00:21, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I'll do that right away! 00:25, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Is it good enough now? 00:32, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink more, darken the shading around the midriff, the neck, and base of the tail-- Night  shine  00:40, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Longtail (Alt.W) -For approval


My Alt Longtail For approval. Comments? Feathe r  moon <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script>Of NightClan... <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script> 23:48, February 26, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Well, you probably want the image full-sized, and to start from scratch. You also need to make his pelt silver instead of brown. 23:54, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

We can easily change it to silver during the next tweak week. Use his warrior image for the alternate  Night  shine  00:09, February 27, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded- Reuploaded and fixed. Comments? Feathe r  moon <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script>Of NightClan... <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script> 00:32, February 27, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

The eye lineart seems to be blurred. Also, blur the scar a little, too, and maybe add more then one? If it was claw s raking his eyes, then there would be more then one scratch, right? 00:40, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I'm not sure... I was just trying to copy his elders image wound. Just now I fixed the lineart, blurred the scratch, and extended the scratch. Feathe r  moon <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script>Of NightClan... <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script> 00:57, February 27, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

The lineart still looks a little blurry to me. [Either it's blurred, or my eyesight's failing] 01:02, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- it very well could have been my idea of his blind eyes, but I tried to make it look a little better Feathe  r  moon <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script>Of NightClan... <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script> 01:09, February 27, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Change the eye colour to blue please 01:30, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, Im pretty sure they already were blue, but I made it more noticeable. im not sure if its just me, but is the bottom part of the scar sorta....short? Feathe  r  moon <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script>Of NightClan... <font color="#B452CD" face="Segoe Script> 19:18, March 1, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Looks good to me =) Did you change the eye lineart? And you don't need to upload a NEW file every time you want to make a change to the image; just click the "upload a new version of this file" button near the bottom of the page. --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 22:49, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes the lineart was fixed. Anything Else? Anybody? Feathermoon 23:21, March 3, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

The ear pink gets lighter where it meets the line art, darken it to match the rest. 02:48, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Okay, ear was fixed...Anything else? Feathermoon 19:46, March 4, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon (godda change my siggy back, eh?)

Comments before approval?-- Night  shine  00:06, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

dosen't look like it, this section doesn't get very many comments! XD User:Feathermoon/Sig' 00:44, March 5, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Oakheart [Alt. W] For Approval
He was mentioned as Tawny many times in Bluestar's Prophecy. Comments? Echostar229 22:42, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. You might want to change the ear pink, it's a bit hard to see. -- 22:44, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

It's not in his trivia. This needs a citation before he can have an alt. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 22:45, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Found one and added it. -- 22:59, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe fix the shading on the back and neck and tail and recenter the ear pink. Light to the night sing the song of life 23:01, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Change the eye color too. He never had blue eyes. :D Light to the night sing the song of life 23:04, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

It has green. They only look blue. -- 01:27, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Move the earpink towards the middle of the ear, and make the ear color a more natural color. 10:20, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Can someone help me with blurring? Echostar229 04:42, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I can, if you want. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:57, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it for you. If you don't like what I did, feel free to revert the edit. I don't mind. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:58, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and blur the earpink. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 21:21, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks Wildheart! Echostar229 03:00, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. =) Brighten the earpink and add highlights to the front leg --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 23:41, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Goldenflower (Alt. A) - For Approval
In Bluestar's Prophecy, page 181, she was mentioned as a tabby. Comments? River pelt StarClan's Chosen One XD 14:47, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's true that she was described as a tabby, but since we don't know the color they were referring to, we can't make an accurate charart. This will be declined. Sorry. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 17:30, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I read the page, it said, "ginger tabby". So should I change it on her page (Trivia) as ginger tabby? River pelt StarClan's Chosen One XD 20:32, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Change it, this is fine. I just looked in my own copy as a double check and it indeed says "ginger tabby". Nice find. :P As for the image, I'd say darken the ear pink so it's more visible, it's a tad difficult to see right now.-- Quiet !...  21:15, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes and thicken the shading-- Night  shine  23:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and define the stripes. 02:45, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make it more ginger :D 00:03, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Mothwing alt.
Hi. In the alligiances of Sunset Mothwing is described as a dappled golden she cat. I know it's really bad, but, comments? ✳  YatzSliversword   Let it snow...  ✳  18:07, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section. Mothwing is already both golden and dappled, so I don't think this is really needed.. Then again, it's not my choice. Just a note for future reference, it might be a good idea to reserve and then ask if a cat needs that alternate or not. It'd save a lot of time and confusion. -- Quiet !...  21:21, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

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Snake and Ice Loners?
I was searching through some random characters and I saw Snake and Ice, Barley's brothers, were listed as loners as well as BloodClan. I was wondering if they're actually considered loners (as in need loner art) and if I could do charart for one of them? I wasn't quite sure about this. Paleclaw 11:58, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

That's a good question, now that you bring it up. They were only mentioned as Loners, and didn't show up in any of the books as them, that's the only thing making me iffy on it. If they'd showed up in the books as Loners, I'd say go for it, but I'd wait until a senior warrior or project leader says something. :\ (By the way, someone has already snatched up Ice on the Current Projects list, and did so after this was posted.) -- Quiet !...  16:06, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

I believe they were considered loners in The Heart of a Warrior. -- 01:33, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Alright I'll wait a bit for a final answer. I don't see Ice on the current project list, but is it alright if I reserve snake right now and just take that down if the final answer is no they don't need Loner art? Paleclaw 21:15, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and one more quiestion. If they do get Loner art, would they have their collars still or not? Paleclaw 21:19, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Another good question.. I'd say follow the typical Loner form and not have a collar, the same thing as Barley, but then it begs the question of how they got them in the first place (in my mind), since I'm pretty sure cats can't get thier own collars on. Hopefully this will be answered soon. -- Quiet !...  21:44, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Haha very good point. That also makes me wonder how they got the dog teath and stuff on them. Alright then, thank you. Paleclaw 00:20, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Alt. Eye citation
Do cat's get a citation for an alt. eye color if it's illustrated on a book cover? Because Blackstar is shown with light blue eyes on the cover of Code of the Clans. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 02:36, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't think they do. As with the manga, they don't get alternate for the artist's mistake. -- Night  shine  02:51, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

It's a good question, but, the change is so minor, that it's not really enough to cause an alternate charart to be made. A lot of the time, when the character changes pelt colors on the Special Editions, it's the editor's fault. As far as I know, an alt image only happens in the case where it's a drastic color change. For example, Tigerheart. He was a golden tabby, but they changed him to a dark brown tabby. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 19:24, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Mousefur's Warrior Image
It's mentioned on her talk page that there is something different about the warrior charart. Now, I looked, and I agree with Mistystar (the user who suggested it). It seems that the eyes are orange, when they should be yellow, should they not? Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 01:14, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

They probably shouldn't be but that'll be corrected during the next tweak week. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 01:15, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

When I look at her warrior image compared to her elder image, the eye looks fine-- Night  shine  01:17, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Mentor blanks?
I had this idea for a while that there should be mentor blanks for a warrior/medcat that had an apprentice. I haven't thought about how it's gonna look like, yet. Comments? 18:44, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

If we were to have that, do you have any idea as to how may characters would need new chararts? I'm not saying that it isn't a good idea, which it is, but, it would just take way too long. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 19:43, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Can I Join?

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21:03, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

@Cloudskye I knew it would take a long time, but I just wanted to see what others think 23:08, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with this because there really is no reason to have a mentor blank. -- Night  shine  23:13, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay... ;-; 23:20, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

But why? 19:37, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Mentors are warriors - being a mentor is not a rank. The only difference is that they're passing on what they've learned to another cat, but other than that they still do the same things and have the same exact rank of warriors. It'd be foolish to have to do so many more chararts just for one little thing that's pointless to show through charart. Mentors and apprentices are already listed on the tables for every characters' page, doing something more would simply be superfluous. (No, I'm not trying to bash or yell, sorry if this came across harsh. </3) -- Quiet !...  21:34, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Guidelines - New?
Hey leads! Look here! =) I was just wondering if we could put a new guideline into action. I've been noticing several users who've been uploading a new file every time they want to tweak their charart, simply because they don't know any better. I was hoping that we could put something in the guidelines about uploading a new version of the same file? It'd help clear up the file clutter and to avoid confusion about which image is which. Comments? --   Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 23:05, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart, that is an amazing suggestion. I have this sort of problem with my Project, Imagine, on another wiki. It does take up a lot of space on the wiki. There are people, however, that do not know that this is possible. It would be a really good idea to consider. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 00:32, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. There have also been a lot of user who've been uploading unnecessary alt.s for manga appearances and alt.s where there isn't really a difference (i.e. sandstorm's orange alt.). Maybe a chart that deems differences that don't require alts.? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:40, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. . . but it's always noobs who do that, and only because they don't know any better. . . please don't try and tell me you actually read all the guidelines and whatnot when you were new? I didn't even know where they were :P So I don't know how we could make a rule against that. . . 70.64.149.241 01:56, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think the thing about uploading sounds good. As for the thing about alts that cant be approved, the main thing is that they take up so much space, so why cant we have another section like Disscusion and Chararts for Approval, and call it Alternates? People could add it to the trivia, reserve it, and then ask if the difference is big enough, and a lead (only leads, not to be rude but we wouldnt need everyones two cents) could say weather it is good or not. It would still take up space but not as much as a heading and a picture would everytime. Just a thought. 02:43, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

I like that! That would definitely help avoid confusion and would cut down on the amount of unnecessary chararts that people upload only to have their hopes crushed. Good idea. --  Wildheart  L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 23:50, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Mudfur
Mudfur was mentioned as a warrior in The Darkest Hour. Would he need an alt. for that? 23:19, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

No I don't think so. It was probably just a mistake and having an alternate for that would just be the medicine cat image but without the herbs-- Night  shine  23:58, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Just wondering =) 00:01, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Brokenstar Elder?
In Forest of Secrets Brokenstar is listed as an elder. Would he get a charart for that? If so, can I reserve it? I know this was discussed before, but no final answer was given. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:19, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

I think it would make sense that he gets and alt...But i'm not completly sure, so you'll have to see what a more experienced user thinks. User:Feathermoon/Sig' 00:30, March 5, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Yes Scarletwind I think you are right. He should get an elder image. You don't have to always ask yo reserve something, whoever gets it gets it.-- Night  shine  00:33, March 5, 2011 (UTC)