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Beepaw (Ki) ~ CBA
10:15, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and perhaps lighten it a little. 10:54, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the back paw. Looks wonderful for your first charart! Storm &#9835;  12:27, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad, please. 16:43, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Soften the texture a little bit. Cute (: 23:06, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the earpink just a tad. I like this! 23:59, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks ^^ 09:48, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading a little bit more, dull down the texture some more as well, and add some shading between her front legs on her underbelly? Storm &#9835;  14:27, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Why would she need more shading on her front paws and underbelly? She has enough there. I think you should lighten the shading a little more. 17:45, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

No, between the front legs on her underbelly. There'd be just shadow there, and there's not really enough. Storm &#9835;  20:48, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, but I agree that it is fine. There is shading there, and there's no less than there is on a bunch of other images. 21:11, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Storm. The underbelly is approximately 3 pixels wide, and 5 pixels long. It does not need that much shading. 00:05, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups — hope I got it, I'm crap at shading, and Wikia won't let me upload the image to the correct file name… did I miss anything? 11:37, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading just a little more. 12:32, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

Still working?

Withdrawn — wifi's being turned off 10:59, June 27, 2015

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Can I Take over? 13:30, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

you dont gotta ask lol Storm  &#9835;  13:31, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups huh 14:37, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Cool. Could you blur/smudge the shading more and define the texture a bit? 14:44, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Can you darken the texture to match the apprentice? Storm &#9835;  14:50, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

yo 19:57, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the front legs and the texture just a tad more. 13:47, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

blur the shading on the main body some more Storm  &#9835;  14:43, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

I'll get to them soon 14:45, June 28, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure if texture needs to match, but the texture on her apprentice image is more dense :P

Oh, is it just me, or are her eyes torquoize (green)?

They do look sort of turquoise, but I compared them to the apprentice's eyes and they seem to be the same color. So I think it's ok 15:03, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

May i ask why theres light on ==> side of the right forleg? It should just be shading 01:17, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

I can still barely see the texture... define light on all her legs though, and maybe smooth out the "right angle" formed by the shading below her head. If you understand :P

Could you erase the shading a bit and show more light on both front legs and the tail? Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:59, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work.

I'll take over. 00:09, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 00:14, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Define the texture on the face and tail, please. Nice image! 01:14, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Made it more visible everywhere else 22:31, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Define the facial shading- it appears a bit flat compared to the leg shading. I also think lowering the opacity of the texture just a tiny bit might be a good idea too- it's not quite as visible on the apprentice as it is on this.

Reups 01:00, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the shading on ==> foreleg? It is a little hard edged. 01:06, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

No. ...lol jk i hate white cats mk bye 01:09, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

With this source there would be shading on the back side of the kit, 01:14, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

reups :) 20:14, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shape of the ear pink, please? I can see it, but it just kinda looks like it's overtaking the entire ear...unless that's my eyes. I think I need to get my eyes checked again.

Define the shading around the head~neck area, and smooth out the tail shading a tiiiiny bit? And perhaps lighten her main body up/define light, as she kind of looks silver/pale gray atm. Lovely and extremely cute though^^  No you don't, not as much as I do.

Reups She's already pure white. I cannot lighten it any further. I blame the texture lol 14:04, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

What a cute lump of fur. CBA?

Mumblefoot (Warrior) ~ For Evaluation
Oh.My.Gosh.I've failed terribly at the ragged fur xD. PoppyShine (talk) 04:57, June 26, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

There are 2 flecks of waste near the chest fur. Please remove it. Also, should he have patchy fur, or not, as that's what's depicted in the other images? And there's a fleck of waste underneath the tail.~User: Dewdrops56/talk~ 05:30 June 26 2015

I don't think he gets ragged fur as that may be only for his elder rank. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also define the shading on the main body. Hey poppy, I was wondering if you want to, would you be willing to be my apprentice? If so let me know on my talk page, and then file out a request on the mentor program page. Storm &#9835;  05:35, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Of course ^-^. PoppyShine (talk) 05:37, June 26, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Also on the front front, facing us, there looks like there is some waste under there. Please remove it. ~ User: Dewdrops56/talk~ 05:49 June 26 2015

Yeah I think he doesn't get the ragged fur, since he was a young warrior. 06:59, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

I think the shading could be defined everywhere, not just on the main body. Also, blur the earpink. 12:04, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

The second fur tuft thing on the chest isn't coloured in. This is amazing for your first(?) charart! ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:56, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded it.I removed the waste,blurred the earpink, and defined shading.PoppyShine (talk) 00:10, June 27, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

The ragged fur still needs to be removed...? 00:22, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Not trying to argue but, isnt ragged fur part of a cat's trait that they recieve when they are kits, take Raggedstar and Reedfeather for example. PoppyShine (talk) 00:27, June 27, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Honestly, I'm not sure we'll know for certain until GC comes out, so for now the ragged fur needs to be removed. If I'm correct in assuming the ragged fur cite was only for his elder rank. Storm &#9835;  00:42, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Ok.PoppyShine (talk) 00:54, June 27, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Define the shading everywhere some more and smooth it out a bit? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 02:58, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

There is a faint patch of waste between the front leg and back leg( facing us). Please remove it. ~ User: Dewdrops56// talk~ 03:39 June 28 2015

Reuploaded it. I removed the ragged fur and defined the shading,and erased the waste. PoppyShine (talk) 00:41, June 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Define the shading on the two legs furthest from us. 19:45, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Define your light source and expand the shading. Look at some of mine for reference. if you need further help, I can send you a tutorial. 09:28, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hope this is better.PoppyShine (talk) 02:20, July 1, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

I still can't see your light source. Did you look at Fox's examples? If you didn't, I recommend that you do. 23:45, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

You also still appear to only be shading along the edges of the lineart. Follow the apprentice tutorials as specified 01:24, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the earpink.

Ok, reuploaded it. :3 PoppyShine (talk) 06:11, July 3, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Poppy all youre doing is shading along the edges of the lineart. What you need to do is shade inside the actual blank. Please look at other examples. 11:50, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sure she is trying - I remember I had a hard time with shading placement on my first image. I would try the warrior blank redline from the apprentice tutorials, the third blank on the fifth row of redlines (not the one at the top). 14:30, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried the best I can >.< --PoppyShine (talk) 00:53, July 4, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

I'm really sorry to have to say this, but I still can't see your light source. Maybe try shading placement like him. In order to follow that light source on this image, remove the chest and muzzle shading, and add light on <--- side of each leg. Also, remove the shading on the top of the tail. The shading itself looks good, so don't be discouraged! :) 01:49, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe smudge/blur the highlight a bit more? Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:58, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. PoppyShine (talk) 23:46, July 5, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Better, but the placement is still off in a few places. The shading still needs to be removed on the muzzle, chest, and top of the tail. Also darken the rest of the shading. 23:38, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink a little more. 11:05 Tue Jul 7

You should try defining the light source more, which means which /direction/ the light is shining the cat in (beautiful). If you want him to be shone from the right|right, fill the shading like this|this(as a reference). If you want him to be shone on the left like this, fill it like this|this or to look like this|this(fill like this|this. Keep in mind that don't be afraid to expand the shading a bit, as the blur tool kinda "shrinks" it. Hope that helped :)

Reuploaded. Look closer and you may see the differences. PoppyShine (talk) 19:55, July 9, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Oops, forgot to remove shading. Here, look closely. PoppyShine (talk) 19:58, July 9, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Are you sure the changes are showing, because I can't see any. I still can't see your light source and the shading placement looks the same. Are you following the examples for shading placement? 23:06, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, but look closely at the shading, i darkened it and it looks more expanded. I dont know where to put the light source. PoppyShine (talk) 00:09, July 10, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

It's just basically one side without shading which is the direction light is shining from, and the shading is on the other side. Say if light is shining from the left(which means the shading is on the right)the shading should take up about 1/3-1/2 of main body, 1/4-1/3 for the head, and about 1/2 for the legs and tail. For now the legs are all in shadow while the body shading still needs to be expanded. Again hope it helped =)

Is this still being worked on?

Yes, almost got it just a few more tweaks and its done.PoppyShine (talk) 17:54, July 14, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Reuploaded. Done!

Why is the top of the head lighter than the rest of the image? Also, I still cannot see your light source. Look at Bramble's advice and the examples again, you're doing good =) 22:34, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the two legs closest, and the shading on the two legs farthest, as they do not have any shading at all on them 22:36, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Also you still yet appear to only be shading along the lines of the lineart. Please look at some examples, the tutorials, or like Ice said, look at Bramble's advice. 22:39, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

You're getting better^^ I suggest, considering what's easiest for you atm, is to just remove all the shading on his back(the right side) and just fill in the legs. If you don't understand, see Graymist's shading placement for reference.

Shredtail (OTS) (DF) ~ CBA
i will face god and walk backwards into hell 18:52 Thu Jul 9

I believe the whole tail should be shaded. Beautiful image! 23:08, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

...on the warrior, half of the tail is shredded. I went off that. I can't do anymore, otherwise they won't match. 06:46 Fri Jul 10

Shaded, not shredded. maybe you should put the timestamp on your signature page or smth

What are you talking about...? It doesn't matter how the tail is shaded on that image??? This is a different blank and has a different source. Also, her timestamp is fine and it is in a subpage.

Oh gosh, my apologies. I read that comment like, immediately after waking up and thought it said shredded. x.x Anyways, I'd rather keep the shading as is. If I add anymore it'll just look flat and/or the stripes will end up disappearing... note to self make sure you're actually awake before replying to comments, 11:49 Fri Jul 10

It's possible to shade the whole tail and not make it look flat or making the stripes look faded. A shading layer of depth can easily be added to your shading base. Either way, with this light source the tail should be entirely in shadow. 22:59, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

I'm honestly trying, but it just looks odd. The image already has 3 layers of shading on the main body alone, with another 2 or 3 on the tail. Whenever I try to put any more shading on the tail it just turns into a black blob. Clearly still a tail, but it really bugs me.

Besides, this is a pixel image of a cat. Why does it need to be 100% accurate shading-wise?? If you want that, we should just start using photographs instead. 12:35 Sun Jul 12

Of course it doesn't have to be 100% accurate??? :/ But with this source, the whole tail should be shaded. Other people have shaded tails (with dark colors) like this and still manage to make it not flat. But your image is put on the approval page for a reason- to improve. Honestly, if critiques are rejected because an image doesn't have to be 100% accurate, then why have the approval page? Any image can be put on an article regardless of good or bad in quality. 16:02, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

the tail is fine >.> everyones just parroting other users now and its getting really irritating. theres been a couple other DF cats approved with shading like this, so can we stop it? 18:32, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly, I agree with skt and berry. Ever since a user pointed this out, its became a necessity on these blanks. Yes, the approval page is here to improve the art, but why are we going to get so bent out of shape over a tail's /shading/? These are pixels, after all. Also, with this color of a cat, it is difficult to fully shade something and not have it look flat. Just because some users have managed it, doesn't mean others will have the same ability to do so. 21:20, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

This is too pretty for a cat with half his tail missing fur. CBA?

Mistystar (Alt.Q) - For Approval
Why so ugly O,.o ;; 00:05, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the front legs some, and blur the shading on the leg least visible please? And its not ugly :P 00:08, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Also smooth out the shading on the face 00:10, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

reupped really not happy with this tbh 00:22, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading everywhere but the legs, please.

Lighten up the shading on the muzzle 05:17, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Cedarstar (W) ~ For Approval
I wasn't sure whether he'd have the 'graying with age' muzzle; but then I guess a warrior can be quite old before promotion/retirement. 00:33, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Gasp :o wheres his white chest D: 00:36, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Also brighten the earpink a bit. It should match 00:36, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

I'll do the earpink later. Uh, it's not a chest, it's his underbelly?? I wasn't sure what to do about the white, since there's more on the StarClanner's chest, but not as much on the leader. (I'll nominate that in a sec) It does say 'white underbelly' in the desc. 00:37, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

At least pull the white up a little bit to match in between the legs on the leader charart? 00:42, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 00:48, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Y'know, given that he's really dark gray, he should be darkened. 02:33, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Reups I didn't darken it too much 22:05, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Do you think you could darken him just a tad more? He was described as very dark gray. 00:21, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

I think its personally fine as is, if sorrel darkens it more itll look too black 12:56, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

A little more wouldn't hurt, honestly. If he's called "very dark gray", chances are he's only a few shades from black, if that. Also remove the graying muzzle- the cite for his warrior rank was found before the cite for the graying muzzle... and the cite was when he was a leader anyways.

Reups colour-picked from Storm's on the tweak page 21:06, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Boulderfur (Star) ~ For Approval
One of my favorite blanks^^ The shading is so icky, ugh.

There wouldn't be shading on the tail-tip if the light is coming from ==> there, and shouldn't this be darker? 01:09, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Disregard that last comment lol 01:10, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a little please. 01:11, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups

<.< *coughs* you forgot the shading on the tail-tip 01:47, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a bit more, if you could. I really like the eyes on this. .o.

re-ups Thank ya! I love doing eyes on the StarClan blank

Snowtuft (DF) - For Approval
Hi, my name is Iciloo and it's been a year since I did art for the project so don't yell at me. 02:00, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Erm...im not trying to yell at you in the slightest, but i cant exactly tell where your lightsource is coming from? And isnt the scar and the rip in his ear supposed to be on his other side? And i believe you may have colored the part in the mouth that's not supposed to be the mouth (i.e the triangle hole next to the tongue) sorry if im confusing you ;-; 02:07, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded:  fixed the scar and ear. for the mouth I used Tigerstar's blank as a guide so...and I don't know how you want me to fix the light source. I shaded it and I didn't use highlights so it'd be awesome if you specified what you meant. 02:23, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded: was suggested to use pure white so i did that 04:21, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

It appears somewhat that your lightsource is mainly coming from above the cat. I guess what i mean is maybe try only from the front of the cat, because the light right under the body on the tail tip is confusing 04:26, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Why would she need to change her entire source just because the light on the tail looks "confusing"? tbh, all she'd need to do is add more shading to the tail-tip to fix the problem. The source itself is just fine, barring the tail.

Define light on the legs and tail if needed :)

Mind defining the light and shading on his legs? I cant really see it. 17:58, July 15, 2015 (UTC)