Warriors Wiki talk:Books

The Last Hope/Chapter 1 - Silver Nomination
Looks completed to me. Comments? 13:06, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Dovewing is a major character, so I think the list should reflect that. Also, adding links wouldn't hurt, either.

Done. 23:39, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Comments before vote? 00:10, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, this will be closed until 'Teldy comes back. 02:04, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

The Last Hope/Chapter 2 - Silver Nomination
Please don't kill me for doing these chapters...I promise, only one more after this. Everything looks good. Comments? 13:04, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Comments before vote? 00:11, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, this will be closed until 'Teldy comes back. 02:05, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Midnight (Book)/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
Yep, I created the page and added everything. Comments? 13:46, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Possibly remove the Births, Deaths, Ceremonies, and Errors section, and I think Bluestar would classify as a major character, I'm not sure though. Also, is it possible to expand the summary, or detail it? 15:30, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Is this still being worked on? 17:34, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Done. I'm not going to expand the summary as much of the stuff in the book is very minor and isn't worth mentioning. 17:44, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can you add the navigation template? 22:17, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

The Darkest Hour/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
I created the page and all - comments? 15:43, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Can the summary be expanded and detailed? 01:01, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. 17:45, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sign of the Moon/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
Created the page and completed it. :3 15:51, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Remove Important Events and Errors, as there are none~ 15:31, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 16:32, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sign of the Moon/Chapter 1 ~ Silver Nomination
It's completed, except my computer won't let me add categories, so could someone do that for me? xD 16:28, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

If you can, expand the summary. 16:32, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

I can't, unless you wan't most of it word for word... 17:30, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Into the Wild/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
My first nomination...and somehow I'm deputy. XD Comments? 17:09, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

SkyClan's Destiny/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? Wee, I love SkyClan. <3

Remove the Births, Ceremonies, and Errors parts, as there is none. 15:21, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Is this still being worked on? 17:33, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is. I've had other things to keep me busy. I removed the sections.

Sign of the Moon/Chapter 2 ~ Silver Nomination
I realize the summary is long, but it's a long chapter, almost 20 pages long... 18:29, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Elaborate the last paragraph in the summary a bit, and remove the section on "prophecies." There are no prophecies, and it's not exactly part of the original layout, so remove it. I think it's needed when there are prophecies. 06:30, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Does that look okay? 17:06, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Yep! 15:20, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sunrise/Prologue - Silver Nomination
Comments? 02:17, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Put it in present tense. 15:18, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Finished, the only part that isn't is a couple of small parts when they are remembering some things. owo 15:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Into the Wild/Chapter 1 - Silver Nomination
Before y'all shout at me, yes the refs are correct, just not for the American version (They're from the UK version). That's the only copy I have so change them if you must x3 Anyway, comments? 16:45, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Can you change Greypaw to Graypaw? 15:17, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for spelling the way I spell. Why does the whole wiki have to be American anyway? Anyway, done. 21:38, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

The Forgotten Warrior/Prologue - Silver Nomination
Created the page. I know I'm not the best at explaining things. e.e Comments? 19:52, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Split up the paragraph please. 23:40, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Also put some of the paragraph next to the first sentence. 15:17, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 16:41, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Night Whispers/Prologue - Silver Nomination
Well that took awhile, Comments? 04:50, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Chapters
Hey all,

I see that the chapter pages idea was accepted, and work has already started. Gret job! :)

From what I've seen, the articles are great.

Some suggestions that came to my mind (I regret I didn't check the page earlier, when there was the discussion / vote; anyway, I mention them, and the contributors decide what to do with it).


 * There should be a nav box on chapter pages pointing to other chapters of the book (or at least to the previous and next chapters). For instance, I can imagine a box like this:

This could be for instance in the top right corner (instead of the table of contents, which can be erased with the NOTOC key).


 * I consider self-references a bit redundant; i.e. in "Midnight/Chapter 1" there should not be references to Midnight Chapter 1 (it's a matter of a couple of pages. I think that we lately took up the habit of over-referencing).


 * Empty sections should be deleted as they look as if the article was unfinished; e.g. if there were no births in a chapter, there is no need for a "Births" section


 * Do we need to grade these articles? Grading was useful for Character or World pages, where many authors needed to make an extensive research work of thousands of pages, so it was vital to assess the quality. In my opinion chapters are a bit simple to get grades.

Kind regards, 19:03, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I totally agree with this idea. It would make things a lot easier. 18:54, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Helice, you're epic.

Anyways, we //were// planning on adding a navigation template, but that's 'Teldy's area, and she's currently on vacation. XD I like what you've layed out so far. Perhaps once 'Teldy gets back, we can combine //both// ideas.

Sorry, my previous edit was sent before it was ready - I completed it now. 19:03, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Wee, and now I respond to the rest of your comment. Yes, they should be graded, as the rest of the articles are. Galleries and allegiances are, and all the allegiances are is a simple copy and paste from the book. Personally, I think all project pages should be graded, because if they're not, people are going to think that a half-done summary is okay for these pages, when it's not. The whole point of the subpages is to add more detail, and I think that grading is a perfectly normal way to go about it. Just like in PC, a nomination is a way to allow other members to critique an article and provide their own input. It's perfectly okay, and I'm sure the other members will agree with me. Personally, I see no problem with it, and I'm only allowing three nominations per user at a time.

As for the empty sections, yes, they can be removed. I see no need for them to be there either, as it gives the impression that there's more to be added to the article.

Oh, and I quite like referencing, thank you. We can further verify the information shown in the chapter. Plus, it would really help crack down on the entire "false cite" thing we seem to have going on right now.

So, we remove births ect., if there are none? 20:19, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, please. I think it's kinda stupid to have them on there if there are none. I originally said to just put "none" or something like that, but since when have we really done that? On //any// article? XD

Here's the idea I had, but we could always use what Helix has which would salvage the main navigation box, of course we could always have two navigational boxes. Anyways, I leave it up to the project. 17:28, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

The Darkest Hour/Chapter 22 ~ Silver Nomination
I like how this turned out (especially for a first). Comments 18:38, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

If there are no ceremonies, births, ect, please remove the sections from the page. Could you also try and format it like the others are? Look here for the basics.

I tried, but I'm terrible at coding. 18:49, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Can you lessen the detail a bit? It's not exactly a play. Also, some of it is in past tense. Make it in present. 01:29, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

I made it persent tense. Also, could you tell me what I should shorten (I'd perfer not to shorten Tigerstar's death, because it's my favorite scene in the series, so I want it to be very detailed). 16:09, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Lessen the detail in /all/ of it.. Also, add the navigation template. 00:26, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I think the detail shouldn't be lessened. It gives a good view of what happened in the chapter. 14:08, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

How does it look now? 15:27, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

There's still some of it in past tense. 01:06, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I think I got it all (when Firestar reveals Tigerstar's history, he is referring to past events, so I'm keeping that past tense). 01:30, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Firestar's Quest/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
Ah, FQ. A book I throughly disliked because it took a while to get interesting. Comments? 09:59 Fri Aug 10

Are there any mentioned characters? 15:50, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

September FA
Suggestions, guys? I'm not entirely sure what I'd like to do this go around, so I'll just listen to what you've all got to say. 8D

I like the idea of SoTM, Beyond the Code or The Elders' Concern 21:18, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

I think Dawn would be good, or Enter the Clans. But Beyond the Code would be great too 8D 10:33 Thu Aug 16

Dawn and Beyond the Code. 22:00, August 16, 2012 (UTC)