Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Tweak Page

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=Tweaking=

Poppyfrost (K) - Redone
Colors picked from Sorreltail's kit Moo (talk) 08:24, October 10, 2019 (UTC)

Could you dull the shading tint some, and maybe smudge the blotches a bit more? 19:04, October 10, 2019 (UTC)

Sure! I just cant get on my computer for a few hours! Moo (talk) 23:36, October 10, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Moo (talk) 06:53, October 11, 2019 (UTC)

There should be more variation in the dapple size and shape, and the patches should be sharper than what you've currently got too - if you'd like I have sorreltail's warrior file handy (which is the master design/colours)

I dont think i know how to make them sharper and still looknatural... Moo (talk) 22:18, October 12, 2019 (UTC)

Just give it a go, it doesn't hurt to just just try it - after all, this place is for constructive criticism so we'll be able to help you to get it looking right if it needs it. Again, I can offer the file I mentioned above that might help getting it to look right.

Thanks! '''Reuploaded! Moo (talk) 08:42, October 13, 2019 (UTC)'''

The patch placements have some differences from Sorreltail's kit, notably on the face/bum etc

Reuploaded Moo (talk) 23:13, October 16, 2019 (UTC)

From Sorrel's kit, this is missing the ginger patch on the << side of the haunch, and I believe the white eartip on the << ear could be defined

Still working?

Tallstar (R) ~ Redone
OA was me. redone to match official art

the belly on the deputy only seems to be on >> this side of the image, with black being under the front arms?

can you add some shading on the << front paw and smooth it on the >> front paw?

Re-uploaded

Could you recede the white patch just slightly where it's right on the top of the haunch? It almost overlaps/touches where the tail starts, and the deputy doesn't show the two almost touch and all

The white needs to be removed from the back (cat's) right paw, according to the official description 23:28, 10/18/2019

Depending on what gets done with the nomination, he might not need any white paws. Please do not archive or make changes until the nomination is said and done.

Tallstar (Kp) - Redone
uh here... Moo (talk) 22:58, October 16, 2019 (UTC)

This needs to match the deputy- he needs three white paws and a white tail-tip. The patch style doesn't quite match the set either. -- 23:05, October 16, 2019 (UTC)

also needs texture 23:12, 10/16/2019

Fox stated previously its not texture; I think its just the shading style and possibly highlights that are giving that effect. There is some very minor texture on the white though, going by a previous comment.

regardless it still needs to match the style of whatever preceded this image, in my opinion it is considered texture, just because i also do that kind of "shading style" where i basically just drag it around the image to make it look like texture, but it's still texture 23:15, 10/16/2019

It's not texture, it's a stylized shading. Millie is not required to match shading style. ​​​​​

O.o Moo (talk) 23:18, October 16, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Moo (talk) 23:26, October 16, 2019 (UTC)

The white should not stretch all the way up the forehead. I also think the colors still look slightly off- the base should be #0b1213, the white should be #d9dada. The patch style still doesn't seem to match the set, maybe try a combo of smudging/sharpening the patches to see if that works? I think the shading tint could be dulled back a bit as well. -- 23:30, October 16, 2019 (UTC)

just a reminder that shading tint is artist's choice, so if Millie doesn't wish to change it, she doesn't have to. also the tail needs to be tweaked to be longer too, per his name and all.

fox commented on a prior Tall redo section that there was indeed texture on the white on the deputy's file -- that it wasn't entirely just styling from shading. that does need to be added to a degree

Sorry for the confusion! There is texture on the white. Looking at burnt's file most other things are just highlights

this needs all white paws, not just three 23:10, 10/18/2019

No, since the master pattern (the deputy) only has 3 white paws. -- 23:12, October 18, 2019 (UTC)

While it is the master pattern, you cannot see the other paw. Plus his description says white paws. 23:13, 10/18/2019

btw there's waste all around the image where there's white. Also disregard the paw comment moo 23:34, 10/18/2019

He needs a long tail. 01:24, October 19, 2019 (UTC)

Depending on what gets done with the nomination, he might not need any white paws. Please do not archive or make changes until the nomination is said and done.

Tawnypelt (A) - Redone
OA is me 14:33, October 17, 2019 (UTC)

White needs to be white. This was a main reason for her images being done. Could have sworn I said that, but Fox must have not told you.

I also think the brown could be darker to make it more black? 17:14, October 17, 2019 (UTC)

reup it is supposed to be white 01:51, October 18, 2019 (UTC)

still looks brown, and if it's supposed to be mostly matching to the tug and whatever art, the patches are much too smudged in comparison. the patches on the tail also don't really seem to match. 06:34, October 18, 2019 (UTC)

Im sorry hut why exactly does it have to match to the T to the official art? Cant burnt have a tiny bit of freedom with th pattern? 08:03, 10/18/2019

the entire point of the nomination was to match it to the art. that's what it says on the tweak page, and the only reason it was nominated to begin with was that she's one of the very few with an actual consistent pattern that was decided to be matched to. 08:06, October 18, 2019 (UTC)

As per David. That was why I brought it up, and the pattern needs to be matched. That was one of the requirements of it being redone. There isn't any creative freedom this time.

I'm kinda confused about which style and which colors I should match, because these colors+style do directly come from the icon image (which has the smudgy style that I matched to). in addition, the facial patterns all differ from each other between the images. ill get to the body pattern and tail 15:34, October 18, 2019 (UTC)

The white needs to be brightened a lot more, btw. She is very clearly shown with pure white in her images. Anyways, I did say on the nomination that Echo's alternate warrior should have been the master pattern for this. I'm not sure why this was never mentioned in the approved redo list, but this is very much what should be done. This was the reason her set was nominated and approved to begin with. Colors aside, the placement and general layout of the image is what we're trying to go for here. I'm not sure which icon you're matching, but in this case it should be what's shown here, which is pretty much the best side view we'll get of her. The excessive smudging in this case contradicts what she's shown as, given that the pattern appears to be less smudged and more... pretty solid, for lack of a better word here.

Hawkfrost (DF) ~ Redone
22:51, October 17, 2019 (UTC)

The texture seems more defined/sharper on the others in the set - could you tweak that? I also think some shading on the earpink might be good, it seems to stick out some. The belly white could also be just a bit more streaky smudgy

Still working? 14:57, October 22, 2019 (UTC)

Tallstar (Star) ~ Redone
Redone to match official art. OA was Mounty 00:06, 10/19/2019

reups quietly <.< 00:14, 10/19/2019

the base colour should be #0b1213 for the black, to match the other images, and the white is a bit bluer - try #CAD8E5 with pure white highlights to make the textured appearance. Could you also define the shading depth in the >> ear? It's looking rather flat in comparison to the other areas.

Depending on what gets done with the nomination, he might not need any white paws. Please do not archive or make changes until the nomination is said and done.

Rainfur (Star) ~ Tweaked
Tweaked to soften stripes and add more mottles. 14:38, October 21, 2019 (UTC)

I think the flank stripes could be softened a bit more, and maybe add more white flecks throughout? 16:24, October 21, 2019 (UTC)

I softened them again, but I'm not happy with it so I'll redo it later. 11:49, October 22, 2019 (UTC)