Warriors Wiki talk:Reality

Online Phenomenon Infobox
I've been thinking...Since Online Phenomenon pages are PR pages, how about we create an infobox for sites? So far, For role-play site articles, we can make an infobox that reveals this information:

There will be game information in the infobox.


 * Name of website:
 * Picture of Website logo:
 * Website link:
 * Website abbreviation:
 * Type of role-play website (modified canon for an example):
 * Website Staff:
 * Date founded:

This is for role-play websites though, I'll think of ideas for others, and I'll work on the infobox, if I need to make an example. Thoughts, comments, and ideas? 18:50, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

It's a good idea. Have it somewhat like the Clan articles, or even character articles. We'd need to get into contact with the founders of the fanfiction websites, though that's not much of a problem. 20:47, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

I agree too. I'm not all that good with online fan stuff and everything, but I think this will work. 01:54, Sun, Feb, 12, 2012

Here is the model. The first infobox. 04:41, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

That looks good, but I'm not sure what to add.

Maybe add under important dates close date if appliable. 05:25, 27, 02, 2012

Anything to add I think would be on the dictation of those who are founders of the website. We can start on the coding and then find all the founders who've made applications for online phenomenon and start editing. To forewarn, these will not have nominations. 00:13, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Rather late, but do we /need/ the Online Phenomenon pages? If we delete pages like fanfiction character pages and fanfiction articles, why can't we delete the Online Phenomenon pages? They have nothing to do with the canon Warriors - and they just take up space. 16:46, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Facebook Pages
I was thinking, why don't we have pages for Vicky and Kate (and soon Cherith's) facebook pages? We could list the questions that are answered on there, just like we do for the chats. I asked Teldy about it, and she said to propose it, so what do you guys think? Should we make pages for them? 02:16, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Seems like a good idea. Though, the only problem is that the information we obtain from their facebook pages may not be valid, such as, we got information from Kate (I think?) that Seedkit and Lilykit were torties, later revealed to be false. But, it's not much of a problem because if something is invalid, it can be confirmed later in the books. I think that it should be one page, with each sections for each authors' facebook page. I see that we could probably use templates like the chat template for the questions answered. 02:21, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well really the stuff in the chats can and has been wrong too, so I'm not sure that's much of a problem. Like them saying Mapleshade was tortie. But yeah, I that sounds good about the section thing, and using templates like the chats. 04:04, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know whether we can fit it on one page. I mean, I was sort of thinking about having one page for each of the facebooks and then just sections to break down the information either in dates or like we have with the chats. Vicky is quite active as an author on her facebook and to coalesce all that information would mean quite a long page plus Kate's facebook, -shrug- either way works. 02:47, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

That would probably work. 00:12, 29, 04, 2012

What's so important about their Facebook pages? Either they should be put in each individual person's page or the Erin Hunter page, with links /if/ possible. 17:53, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

The Facebook page tidbits don't need to be duplicated on a page anywhere. That information gets referenced in articles all the time and stuff. There's no need to make bigger fusses about pages that are not exclusively warriors pages (all of them have other projects, after all) that need be. We link them from their individual pages and add the information to articles as appropriate, I feel like we're already addressing Facebook very well. 18:01, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

I must disagree about us covering the info on facebook sufficiently. Currently, the majority of our cites don't have links to the original posts for them, it's either unlinked or linked to the WW website, which though is accurate, shouldn't be used as a source since it's fanmade. Also, there are things that vicky's said that should be listed, but don't really have a specific place where they'd fit. Such as why sometimes one author writes more than 50% of an arc. Furthermore, I for a fact know how hard it is to search facebook for past questions. It's near impossible to locate the exact thing you're looking for. On here not only would you be able to simply ctrl+f for it, it's also easier to check the dates of it. Lastly, there are many questions that are answered multiple times, and often small pieces of information are added the second or third time it's answered, but since the question had bee asked and added to the character or book's page before, it may be overlooked. Overall I think yes, we could deal without it, but it'd certainly help us be more thorough and I see no reason not to have it. It's related to the Warrior series, and we're trying to make an accurate encyclopedia of things. That would include things mentioned on facebook. }} 06:11, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Pale made a good point. She said it all. ^^ As this site being a warriors encyclopedia, we should have articles about as much as possible about stuff that are related to warriors. 16:09, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. I don't think it is necessary to have Facebook pages. 04:51, 08, 07, 2012

Erin Hunter Chat 5 - Silver Nomination
Resuming my work from April, how does it look? 22:29, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Not sure if all is done yet, if it isn't then could you add the rest of the cites for the outcomes? Otherwise ignore me. xD 09:56, 06, 06, 2012

Is this still being worked on? 16:58, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry 'Teldy, but I might have went and added some cites to the outcome earlier...xD

Lol, no worries and thanks for finishing it up x3. I actually did much of this a month ago but was quite distracted. 06:22, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Alright. x3 CBV? 18:19, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Vote is up 17:19, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

The New Erin
Hey all. I was just curious, and I figured that this is a topic that can be decided early rather than being decided the moment this thing happens, but will we be including an article about the new Erin that'll be writing Survivors? It may have nothing to do with Warriors, but it'll be an Erin Hunter member no less.

The name of the Erin hasn't been announced yet, but there's a floating rumor that it'll be Gillian Phillip.

Thoughts? Should we include an article about the author when his/her name is announced, or should we leave it out since they aren't writing Warriors? 23:01, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I think that, at the very least, we can include info on him/her on the Erin Hunter page. 23:03, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, Kate Cary herself announced that Gillian //is// the new Erin. Check her facebook page. Here's your proof.

Ah, good. So we can decide this sooner than later. Shall we make a page for her, or just make a section on the Erin Hunter page for her? 23:06, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

I would think an entirely new page. Yes, she's not a Warriors Erin, but, she's still an Erin nevertheless. We do that with the illustrators/writers/ect of the graphic novels, instead of just bunching them together. (I've actually read one or two of her books before...she's not half bad. =3)

Well, yeah, but those illustrators are still writing Warriors books no less. :\ I'm still up in the air about it. 23:10, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, very true. Perhaps for now place the information on the Erin Hunter page, and if we decide to make a page for her, we already have some basic information about her to add. Something's better than nothing, I say. Although she's technically an Erin, I see your point.

Alright, I wrote her into the Erin Hunter page. I figure it's the least we can do. She's an Erin now and deserves mention as such. 23:32, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but is Cloudskye and Shelly's opinion a community consensus? No, so why have we already added it to the Erin Hunter page? While I agree with adding her to the Erin Hunter page as she's now part of the pseudonym, but we haven't decided anything except hear the opinion of one user. Meanwhile, I don't believe she should necessarily have a page since she's not writing any of the Warriors books especially since this wiki is about Warriors series. All articles we have is pertaining to the series and those who have a part in it. My two cents on this. 00:06, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Atelda is correct, I believe. We need the support/opinion of the whole project; not even the project only, but the wiki. I would think that a section on the Erin Hunter article is good (As she is an Erin), and that it could stay. However, an objection of the idea could occur. Also, I don't believe that we'll need to make an article for this new Erin, however, if she's even slightly involved with the Warriors series (such as an idea for a name or so), maybe an article could be made for her (however, if she is involved only so little and only once, that could just be stated in her section on the Erin Hunter article). As for now, I'm pretty sure that she won't need an article. But of course, things are bound to change. 00:17, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's why I just added her to the Erin Hunter page and didn't make an entire article about her. Because she is an Erin Hunter now, and therefore that information needs to go on that page. Not like every piece of information on this wiki completely pertains to Warriors 100%. I don't think a detailed description on the physiology of Sheep has much to do with the Warriors series itself, but we put it here for the sake of information. And if there's a new Erin in what Kate calls ErinClan, I say we at least mention her in the appropriate article. I never intended to make an entirely new article without the approval of PR. 22:46, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Consensus is a tool, guys. If you feel information needs to be taken out of an article, it should get discussed (and if consensus cannot be reached though discussion of the concerned parties on the applicable talk page) then it's time to bring the project in. Consensus doesn't not have to be an entire project. Sometimes, it's best to leave it to the involved parties, and only use the project to settle it if agreement cannot be reached and further inquiry is needed. Given that it's relevant information regarding the topic of "Erin Hunter", what grounds are there for deletion of the information? She's part of Erin Hunter. Not involved with our series, and thus not worthy of a page of her own... But certainly worthy of a blurb. 22:58, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

I think she should be part of the Erin Hunter page, and maybe make a page of her own, and mark it as planned. Perhaps no one could nominate that page until any further information is revealed. :/ 09:54, 06, 06, 2012

-is late- Better late than never, no? Anyways, I personally believe she should not get her own page, but be featured in the Erin Hunter article. Erin Hunter writes Warriors, Erin Hunter is on this page, Gillian Phillip is one of the Erins, thus deserving a section. 18:35, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

2012 - Silver Nomination
Right, I'm not sure if I had permission to change it into bronze but if I needed it, apologizes. That was my misdoing. But I'm slowly going to nominate all the years because that's how I roll. Anyways, 2012 has all the releases in it and events involving Warriors - I personally see nothing else to add in, but others might disagree. Comments? 19:32, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Just add in that TLH was released as a ebook and enhanced ebook (in the US) on the same date as the hardcover version was released. Other than that, looks great.~ 02:04, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 02:16, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 02:24, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

There are international books that have been released in 2012 that are being neglected in this article. 02:38, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hm, where's that stated? 02:40, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

There's the Midnight Finland edition, the Twilight and Sunset German editions, Dark River French and Japan edition, etc. :3 02:48, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Where would I find the sources? 23:30, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Eh - nevermind, found it, but most of the ones released in this year don't have cites - and it's confusing to find the language. Do I have permission to ask for assistance on this article? 13:25, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... this might help. owo 17:05, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Nothing to say here but I'm working on this and I thank Ducksplash <3 (as well as hailing) 02:35, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

2011 - Silver Nomination
A rather hectic year, I believe. Anyways, if I didn't have permission to change it into bronze, I'm sorry. My mistake. I don't see anything needing to be added - but I'm always here for opinions. Comments? 19:32, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

The amount of international Warriors books that have been released in this year are not reflected in this article yet. 02:40, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Eh - nevermind, found it, but most of the ones released in this year don't have cites - and it's confusing to find the language. Do I have permission to ask for assistance on this article? 13:25, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

You have permission. It's fine to ask assistance when you really need it. =) 16:51, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

2003 ~ Silver Nomination
-scratches head- Hmm... I can't really remember anything else coming out in 2003... Comments? W00t! The first year of the Warriors series 19:07, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Can't see anything wrong with the article, unless there are releases I'm not aware of. Excellent job. 16:01, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

2007 - Silver Nomination
Everythings cited, and it looks great. =) Comments? 16:18, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

...This is wonderful. Nothing to say but I hail you for doing this wonderful work. 02:32, July 14, 2012 (UTC)