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Leader Blanks - For Approval
Uploading on my personal for now since its easier to work with. I plan on fluffing up the longhaired tail...which as I look at my cats the tails are slightly too long and I'll fix that next upload as well. 16:54 Sun Jan 20 2019

Cool! Can you shrink the ears by the smallest amount and make em more pointy? I love this BreezeyPotato&#61;) (talk) 17:46, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add whiskers? :) 18:14, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

I'd think Breezey would add the whiskers once everything else is all said and done, mainly because that seems like the least important thing, compared to making sure the anatomy and whatnot (read: floof) is correct. =P ​​​

The shorthair's tail is a bit lumpy, could you make it more consistent in width? It's mostly where the tail curls Eggheart (talk) 22:07, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

I think the tails could be shortened a tad, it might be just me but they seem pretty long. 22:12, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

im gonna be the one who says it fluff those longhair tails up lul 22:19, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Can you make the lineart around the eyes more even? 22:20, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the lineart on the longhair's chest furPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:44, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Make the eyes a bit rounder. 03:12, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Paws look big for the legs, and make the jaws evenPotato&#61;) (talk) 02:57, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

Paws look fine to me Malina457 (talk) 17:43, January 23, 2019 (UTC)malina

The ears look a bit big for a “standard” kitty. Maybe shrink them a wee bit. Seems more like an oriental build when looking at those ears anatomy wise. ​​​​​​ 21:24, 01/23/2019

Please read comments before and my own before commenting. 2:07 Thu Jan 24 2019

I'm not 100% sure that was necessary, Breezey. There's a lot of comments on this and it's possible other comments hadn't been seen. ​

Oop didnt see the ear comment before mine. But taking a second look, the faces (at least on the shorthair) cpuld be rounded out a tiny bit more ​​​​ 17:54, 01/24/2019

No rush, you have all the time you need, but are you still working? 08:57, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah. Just not happy with the edits I did yet. Hopefully I'll have them up this weekend. 2:41 Thu Jan 31 2019

Reuploaded. [insert aliens meme but it says fluff] 0:00 Tue Feb 5 2019

Maybe make the ear on our left match the ear on the right a bit more? I know theyre not facing 100% foward but it still looks off. I love these breezey 00:18, 02/5/2019

I think they're fine. If I make them look the same they look weirder. Its just very small, even a pixel or two makes them look off. 1:24 Tue Feb 5 2019

The lineart on the short hair tail looks kinda rough. Can you smooth it out? 01:26, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Where? 1:46 Tue Feb 5 2019

I think particularly the tip of the tail.

The shorthair tails seem just a tiny bit long still. Longhair tails are fine. That fluff oh my god

The faces of the short hairs taper off too much towards the chin, and their faces look too narrow. The long-hair's face is perfect in that regards (and cute!!). 16:41, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I think the face are fine. Shorthaired "neutral build" cat (e.g. not british shorthairs or exotics) faces do taper like that. Here's a ref of one with a very similar taper.

Waste outside the longhair's backPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:08, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Warrior blanks ~ For Approval


19:15, January 27, 2019 (UTC) Love these! The head looks a bit off though. Sorry if you don't understand this but it's hard to explain: Try connecting the <-- line from the head to the body. Then make the <-- side of the muzzle curve upward a bit and the chin protrude from that line. Basically shapen the muzzle/face a little more. Here's a red line

19:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Obligatory redline from me. —​​​

The short-haired’s tail is very uneven and almost looks crooked. Please make the entire tail even and smooth. 20:00, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Longhair's back foot is a little chubby, and the noses should be expanded in size a tad *looks at cat for reference*Potato&#61;) (talk) 20:27, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. will update longhair shortly, can't now because my latop is about to die and i don't feel like walking to get the charger.

20:31, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

There are some random lines on the shorthair's head that don't make sense, and there's waste outside --> this ear on said blankPotato&#61;) (talk) 21:41, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Could you specify which lines? Not sure if you are heading about the whiskers over the eyes. It's a preference of mine but i can remove them if necessary.

22:13, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

The lines coming off the ears. I can send a perfect screenie if needed. Now on to homework lolPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Those are whiskers. —

(Apologies for double comment; just got on my pc LOL) Here's a redline for the face. I don't necessarily think the perspective would change the level of the eyes, and I think they should be leveled out to be on the same line. Also, the muzzle needs to be a bit more rounded ish? Something like this maybe. When sketching cat heads, this is always what I do so maybe that'll help level out the head. —

Minor, but could you add a line on the shorthair going down the chest to represent the little floof of hair on the center of their chest.

22:51, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. happier with the long hairs fur now.

00:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC) Make them a bit bigger.

00:28, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the line for the right cheek down closer to the nose? —

Re-uploaded. noticed the back didn't match.

00:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC) Re-uploaded. tweaking the longhair shortly.

00:53, January 28, 2019 (UTC) Is it just me or is the short haired's linear art too thick?

Yeah the lineart should only be about 2 pixels thick i believe ​​​​ 01:34, 01/28/2019

I don't think there's a specific ruling for lineart thickness, but compared to the longhairs fluff it may look thicker. I personally think it's fine tho. —

Just me, but it looks like the shorthair is larger?? Malina457 (talk) 03:33, January 28, 2019 (UTC)malina

The shorthair is larger, I haven't updated the longhair's size yet.

04:25, January 28, 2019 (UTC) The thickness should be consistent across the long haired and the short haired, at least. I still think the short haired linear art is too thick.

Re-uploaded. that was a nightmare... all the lineart or are there any particular spots that are too thick?

05:22, January 28, 2019 (UTC) Re-uploaded. found a few spots i thought i had fixed on the shorthair.

05:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

dunno how to exacty word it but the muzzle looks too centered for the angle of the face. something's just a bit off about it. 09:16, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps shorten/erase the muzzle lines to make the style more consistent with the other blanks? Also, I think the linear art is too thick on the short haired, especially on the back.

I feel like adding a shoulder on each blank would be beneficial. The backs seem kind of flat without them. 14:13, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Here's a reference for the muzzle. I think it's fine to have them stylized like what Patch is going for. Our blanks have a wide variety of styles and the StarClan blanks had the same issue of "match the blank styles" and in the end that got overruled. I think they just need some anatomy fixes but the style is fine. —

Re-uploaded.

02:05, January 29, 2019 (UTC) Re-uploaded again.

03:32, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the right cheek line down to the nose? Looking good. —

these are look amazing! the only thing i see is that the 'catbrows' make them look a bit angry, could you fix that?

12:36, January 29, 2019 (UTC) Re-uploaded. I can't tell if they still look angry, but hopefully this is better.

15:55, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The shorthairs tail could be thinned a bit. looks too chub to me for a tail 17:44, 01/29/2019

Re-uploaded.

18:01, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I'm now asking this for a 5th time since my comment on this seems to keep getting ignored: can you please move the line that indicates the --> cheek down to align with the nose? —

Re-uploaded. looking back at your comments; didn't see it the first time, second time i misunderstood what you meant, i'm sorry if it seemed like i was ignoring you. Is this what you meant?

21:34, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

All good o/ This is what I mean, cheeks on a cat generally start protruding after the nose, kinda like this guy. (Though he is a bit chubby) —

They still look angry, change the position of the head whiskersPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:56, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The head whiskers are honestly fine... I'm not sure why the expression seems to be an issue. ​​

Re-uploaded. ah ok i see i was being stupid, don't mind me lmao.

01:06, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

This is super nitpicky, but maybe fill in the space between the hind foot and the shoulder to front arm in with white? Only since there should be acknowledgement to the other haunch and foot that we can't see, but I don't know if that's 100% necessary. —

The line for the shoulder should be able to connect to the elbow, if that makes any sense - or the elbow should curve outwards. Also, the fluff on the haunch starting there protruding looks somewhat off on the longhair. Could you maybe add some tufts of fur above? 08:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

The muzzles still seem a bit off... I'm unsure if it's a neglect of a perspective but it keeps not looking right to me. It may be easier if you center the face rather than having them facing away, since the way it looks right now, it's as if you drew the muzzle in the center of the face, moved it over, then added lines to connect it to the side of the face, is the only way I can describe it bluntly. —

could yo make it so that the fur on the long haired blank's back doesn't appear so... suddenly? like maybe have a more visible transition 10:38, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I fixed these problems but i don't know if I'll be able to reupload today because my laptop is being annoying. I didn't touch the muzzles though, I'd rather not mess with them anymore then i have. Call me bias for working on the blank, but i really dont see it necessary and think they look fine.

16:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I think the muzzles are fine as they are. These blanks are beautiful I can’t wait to use them! 16:20, 01/30/2019

Sorry, but I agree with Echo about the muzzle. The perspective seems incorrect and they still look a tad off. 16:18, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Not to be nitpicky, but these are the warrior blanks. We're going to be making over 600 images with them. The muzzle may look fine to you and its "unnecessary" to change them, but these images are literally going to become wwiki's staple and that's why I've been so particular with your anatomy. I've studied cat anatomy for years and I'm trying to use my knowledge to help you since this blank is literally going to become wwiki's namesake, just as the last blanks were. Everh critique is necessary. —

I'm quite aware of that, but I don't agree with you on the muzzle and I would appreciate a few more opinions on it.

18:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to quickly slip in to state that I agree with Echo on the muzzles, and that i also think the ear lineart could use a tad smoothing while i'm at it. SquidwardPlays 18:35, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

To add onto my critique, you blanks have their face at a 3/4ths position, meaning the right cheek and eyes will be more defined than the left eye and cheeks. Here's a redline of a real life example of a cat at that angle. The face should flow together, not in a perfect circle, and I think the face shape, eyes and muzzle are whats throwing off the perspective and proportions. —

hmm. it was always meant to be somewhat offcenter, from the first sketches I'd had. not negating anything just pointing out the concept for this, and it's changed a lot since those early stages, but y'know

I think the position of the head shouldn't be changed (it should still face away from the center because that's part of the pose), but the muzzle could use some tweaking.

Re-uploaded.

19:15, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

The muzzles are still off. Echo provided a redline earlier, can you follow that one? The muzzle lines seem really flat when they should be more rounded for a lack of better words. 05:06, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Messed around with the muzzle, it looks odd whenever i alter it too much, hope this is good. Also changed a few things on the longhair's tail.

14:35, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

extremely minor, but could you make it so that the whiskers protrude from the middle of the muzzle and not from the edge? 05:10, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

15:20, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the lineart thicker in the ears? 17:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

And with the right ear on the longhair, it looks like some of the ear lineart extends past the head. Can you get rid of that? 17:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe give me a screenshot of the spot on the ear? I don't see any lineart going past the head.

17:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Here you go. Is that on purpose? 17:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

00:45, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the inner ear lineart? 01:27, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

05:54, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

could you make the short haired tail lie flat instead? 04:02, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

i agree w burnt ^^ to keep consistent with the longhair 04:49, 02/5/2019

Not sure if this is just me but does the long-haired's leg seem a bit too thick?

Pretty much all the critiques I have are to do with the anatomy and perspective. I found two refs, one for the body and one for the head, which seem to match very closely to this pose. I made a redline (rainbowline) here. Here's the explanations for each color:

Red: This kind of goes against some of the critique you've already gotten, but the shoulders are way too defined. Especially in poses like this, you can just barely make out where they are. Shoulder that are too defined tend to look attached on like a toy rather than being part of the body. If you remove the lines marked in red, that should help a ton.

Dark blue: The back should arc a lot more in this kind of sitting position. The original warrior had the same issue, so it'd be really nice to fix it in this version. And if you look at the area above the shoulders, the flatness there before it starts curving also helps give the shoulders form without making them look attached on.

Light blue: Similar to the shoulders, the haunch is a bit too defined. It also seems like it's behind the front leg nearest to us, which seems rather odd for this kind of pose. Might seem more natural to move it in front of the front leg instead.

Yellow: Usually you can't easily make out a clear chest area dividing the two front legs, but if you choose to keep that line, it definitely needs to be moved up higher. I tried to mark where that chest area is on the ref, but it kind of blended in, you might have to zoom in close to see it.

Orange: The muzzle is a bit small right now and doesn't seem to follow the form of the face. If you make the --> lip a good bit wider that should help, and maybe also make the <-- lip just a tiny bit wider too? I marked it on the ref so you can see how the form kind of wraps around the face.

Dark green: It seems like the head's tilted ever so slightly downwards, not up, so the jaw seems to big right now and like it's jutting out. This differs a bit from the ref since the ref is looking up a bit.

Pink: This is very minor but maybe increase the size of the nose by 1-2 pixels? It's a bit small right now, and will seem even more so if you change the muzzle.

Light green: The perspective is off on the <-- eye, if you look at the ref it's almost all the way to the cheek, with hardly any space between.

Purple: The <-- ear needs to be moved up so that the top lines up with the other ear. The perspective of the head being slightly turned wouldn't make the ear move down much. However the perspective does make that ear thinner than --> one, so maybe thin it out a bit.

Sorry for the wall of text. Message me in discord if anything's unclear.

Re-uploaded. longhair will be tweaked shortly.

21:00, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I love these so much ahhh. the shorthairs tail needs to be thinned again though, but these are getting so close feel it 21:39, 02/5/2019

Round out the muzzle a bit more. —

Re-uploaded. I'd rather not touch the muzzles, I did use a reference for them.

04:30, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

That looks great! The muzzle looks fine, definitely doesn't need to be rounded more. Cat lips are ovals. Maybe lengthen the shorthair tail just a pinch, and remove the little top shoulder line on the back and replace it with a more flattened area in the spot of the back (like the body ref I linked before). Having the line makes them look like they're protruding out of the body a bit, which tends to only happen if the cat is crouching or leaning their head down, not usually when sitting.

Could you make the long haired's leg a bit more.. narrow? on the short haired one it seems like it curves in but it looks a little off on the long-haired (idk how to word myself)

Re-uploaded. I see what you mean. The longhairs didn't curve in because the fur on the tail was blocking it off. I altered it a tiny bit so hopefully that looks better.

17:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

the head looks... like it is farther away from us than the body, and it looks uncomfortable. Is that how it is ment to be? <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 19:57, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Cats do have fairly small heads, i think they're fine. And I want to avoid resizing anything because that's terrible. 20:40, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Dawncloud (Alt Star) ~ For Approval
Yes I know the pattern is different, I had already finished this a couple days ago but didn't post it. I'll reupload when I get the chance.

Do you have to match owl's pattern or? (Not a big fan of her's but still) Malina457 (talk) 02:50, January 29, 2019 (UTC)malina

Malina, that is rude to say that you do not like her pattern. Star also said that she would be reuploading to match the pattern. 02:52, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The have to match the first put up. 02:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Was just my tired opinion, I did apologize to them Malina457 (talk) 03:15, January 29, 2019 (UTC)malina

can you lighten the eyes? they are on alkl the other images, a light blue.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:09, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I believe eye color does not matter on alts (see Crowfrost's alts)Potato&#61;) (talk) 00:16, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

imo they should match the main images. There's no reason why they shouldn't. ​​​

Eye colour shouldn't deviate from the written description in my opinion. I don't typically match my eye colour when doing alts, but I try to stick to whatever is cited. In this case, since she has no cited eye colour I think this colour would be okay, but lightening it couldn't hurt since they do look really dark. And regardless, they should match Owlbite's queen, so if Owlbite's queen has lighter eyes, they should match that since they're in the same set. —

Still working?

re-up yee. bye bye ticked tabby.

Shading is making the earpink turn dark purple, can you fix thatPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:50, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I actually think its fine. Shading colour is artist's choice. —

Define the shading, especially on the back. 20:10, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I'll reupload later, but why would I need to define it on the back?

Hm maybe my working was wrong. Flank/back, because to me, it is not visible. 15:48, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

the facial stripes should be a W, not a V. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 22:36, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

re-up didn't see that, will reupload later

Haven't calibrated my screen yet, so this may just be me, but the shading looks almost pitch black, can you lighten it? —

re-up i did a thing

re-up shading is a pain in the-

Define the shading on the tailPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:28, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

The tail shading looks fine to me. But maybe brighten up the lighter areas on the face? The light seems a bit dim over there compared to the rest of the image.

Tabby rogue (Ro) - For Approval
Oh no Hawkey, another experimental style? xD 16:17, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

It turned out good. Can you define the earpink? 16:20, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. The two stripes on the face, as well as the three on the haunch, slightly fall into issue with the triangle tabby thing. Could you try tweaking them slightly to not be so? Small touches would do it

Might I ask for an example of a "triangle tabby" so I can change my stripes appropriately? I think this may have been implemented before I came back, so I'm not really sure what those stripes would look like. ^^ 21:32, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. For lack of better examples since this was way before my time, two of the ones i can remember are this and this. so yours would be pretty easily solved for the haunch ones if for example they visibly reached all the way to the < side of the haunch, or if they tapered or curled differently as to not be that triangleish shape, and same with the facial ones, though that's one of many ways to tackle it

Reuploaded. 17:54, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Waste near the bootyPotato&#61;) (talk) 02:41, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Got it. 22:26, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Completely optional suggestion, but since I feel these still kinda border on triangle tabby... would you object to adding a dorsal stripe? If you think it's fine without, that's perfectly fine with me.

I don't really think this image needs one, but I appreciate the suggestion. ^^ 16:35, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Kit Blanks - CBA
Sorry for the delay. I made some small tweaks since I posted it on the vote. I might go back in and tweak the haunch of the longhair if it turns out to look off without the tail (since it'll need to be shown for characters like Berrynose).

<-- this ear's lineart is different on both imagesPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:18, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

I think that's because of the tufts on the longhair. Regardless, can you round out the short hair's tail a bit more? They don't look like a cat's tail. —

Could you make them a bit larger? :) Also, this is more just personal choice, but I asked a few others: would you be alright with removing the pupil lineart? I looove making the eyes and I think some people don’t like to be restricted to one type. :) 03:51, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I thickened the tail tip a bit, but kitten tail tips are a lot thinner and pointier at the tip than grown cats, so this is about as far as I wanna go. I'd rather not make the blanks larger. They were sized according to the apprentice blanks, and they're also nearly as big as the starclan and rogue blanks. I'd like these to be at least somewhat smaller than the adult blanks since they're supposed to be babies.

The primary reason we're redoing the blanks is due to the size, so I can understand (and agree with) making them a tiny bit bigger since that's what people are primarily thinking about. Maybe a by a couple pixels. —

They were already made significantly bigger than the original kit blanks though. And since they're about the same size as the apprentices, there shouldn't be any issue with them being too small unless people think those blanks (and the starclan and rogue...) are too small as well.

I think the size is fine.

If size is that much of a concern, then we should really revisit the DF blanks. The size for these is perfectly fine and considerably larger than the old kit blanks. Different pose too, much easier to work with to show the pattern. <span style="">10:49, 01/31/2019

Honestly, the size is fine. 13:22, January 31, 2019 (UTC) Ones

yeah i think the size is fine too. 14:07, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Straighten out the bottom line of lineart on the hind leg closest to us and lengthen the front leg a bit (the one closest to us)

15:41, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

I don't have any reference to know if I am right, but should the tail be at the back of it? There is some room in between the tail and the back.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 16:26, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Would you mind adding a few more fur lines to the tail of the longfurred? Or just lengthening the ones that are there to make them more visible/go deeper^^ I think the size is fine as well

Just gonna pop in and say I also think the size is fine. They're around the size of the rogue blanks, so these are perfectly acceptable as they are. ​​​​​

You missed my comment above Paleh ^^Potato&#61;) (talk) 22:49, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

She didnt miss it, it isnt needed, the head fluff just makes it smaller Malina457 (talk) 04:57, February 1, 2019 (UTC)malina

Are they supposed to be smiling? 06:14, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Don't think the smiling really matters? And they're kits, so I guess it adds some character to them lol

I personally like the smiling! It’s cute. :P 03:48, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I was not going to ask her to change it, I was just wondering if they were, because I was just a little confused. I do not want her to change it either, it is really cute. 12:16, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Leg length is fine. They're appropriate for a kitten. <span style="">19:19 Sat Feb 2 2019

Reuploaded. Finally got around to redoing the lonhair's haunch area to make it look decent with tailless cats. Also redid a lot of the other fluff on the longhair. Might still redo the base of the tail on the right side again later. Yes, they are meant to be smiling a little bit. And Potato, what you're seeing is fluff on the top of the longhair's head, it's meant to be there. As for the tail not being connected, that is intentional, the butt's supposed to be turned slightly towards the viewer, so at that angle it looks best not to have it connected. I did shift the line up farther on the shorthair though.

Can you add whiskers? 22:20, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I mean I can, but is it required? I'm not a huge fan of how these look with whiskers. The only ones I wouldn't mind too much are silhouetted whiskers, but even then I prefer it without.

I'd be willing to let this one go as a complete artist's choice, given that we've had blanks without whiskers (prey hunters come to mind), and the old kit blanks did not have them either. If they genuinely don't look right with the whiskers, I feel we shouldn't be forcing the addition of them. ​

I personally think they look fine without them. They’d crowd the face if they were added imo <span style="">03:24, 02/6/2019

Hm, I concur with the no whiskers thing. Let us try this and see - CBA?

Tortoiseshell queen ~ For approval
soo, this is my first project here, I hope you like it :) 18:59, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

This is good! ^^ Remove the white, or change it to a cream color. The project defines a tortoiseshell as just black/orange, and only if they are described as 'tortoiseshell and white' do we add white.

hii add/define some earpink if you would, other images would show good colors for it. bumped this to ‘for approval’ since you know what you’re doing and welcome friend :3

Re-uploadedI hope it's okay for you like this 21:07, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading and although this is common with the queen blanks she looks slightly cross-eyedPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:53, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Do you think you could add more patches? 08:07, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

I noticed your talk page comment, defining shading means to make it darker or visiblePotato&#61;) (talk) 14:08, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 16:11, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Not breaking CBA but there's some waste outside --> that earPotato&#61;) (talk) 23:11, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

yikes i hate breaking the cba on such a beautiful image but could you make it so that the black patches blend in more? right now they kind of look like they are pasted onto the image 05:07, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

it was so minor that I didnt think it was worth breaking CBA for, but because CBA is broken, is the front ← supost to look black?<font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 22:33, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Still working?

Rose (TS) (KP) - For Approval
who else but me. i was gonna do a rose charm but just did a velvet ribbon for a collar instead <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 00:17, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Where's the pupil in --> this eyePotato&#61;) (talk) 00:52, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Also found some waste ouside the outstretched front legPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:53, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

And define eye depth while you're at it Squidward, sorry for bombarding you with critiquePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Shading is leaking away from the lineart just above where the tail meets the body (topside) and on the back. I also think the shading in < ear could be defined

Reups Also potato the pupil is in that eye there's not that much space with the color aswell. don't know if i actually got the waste <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:41, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue, define light on collar, define eye depth again and sry for being the nitpickiest nitpicker but make a small line for the pupil in said eye, it looks, idk, odd without the pupilPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:45, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not messing with the pupil in that eye. It is there and it is fine that way, i'm sorry Potato, and that pawpad is filled. i'll reups later. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 22:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reups <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 01:52, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

The face shading needs to be defined and there seems to be waste by the face.

Also waste around the ears, back, and legsPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:09, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Sol (KP) - For Approval
I'll adjust the colors tomorrow my eyes hurt <span style="">01:53 Sun Feb 3

Add a little shading to the tongue and is the earpink meant to be two-tonePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:58, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

could you make the patches... blend in more, like on the rogue image? not totally sure how to explain it 05:39, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the belly shading a tiny bit. <span style="">00:10 Thu Feb 7

Tallstar (KP) ~ For Approval
i put a collar on him since I can't seem to find a cite that said he didn't have one. Yes, I know the shading needs darkened, I'll do that on my next upload. 05:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

considering he was a feral cat at the vet and would highly object to wearing one, as well as no one making any kind of deal or notice that he was wearing one, he really shouldn't have it, especially as a main pov. his tail also needs to be longer. 05:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

pawpads and tongue unfilled

Make the tail loonnnnngerrrr Potato&#61;) (talk) 05:35, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Nope Skt beat me to itPotato&#61;) (talk) 05:39, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah but we don't necessarily know if he was wearing one or not. I'll remove it if I have to but I added it because the collar had no cite if he had one or not. I even read the chapters he was a kittypet while doing this. 16:05, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Not that I wrote the book or anything, but I definitely think that he would have noticed if he had a collar on him, so I agree with Trolly about removing it. 17:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Remove the collar; if he had one, there's no way he wouldn't have pointed it out. Plus, he wasn't owned by these Twolegs, they were just taking care of him. There's no reason for him to have the collar. ​​​​​​

can you fill in the paw pads and the tongue? especially the tongue, not sure if pawpads can be white 05:36, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

^ DOn't think so? Cats generally have black/brown/pink paw pads. Also I think the nose is unfilled too. —

Yeah, I'm removing the collar and the filling in the stuff but I think Spook pointed those out earlier. 13:19, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

oh im dumb lol yeah sorry splook for repeating 13:31, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re-ups, re-did the shading because I lazed through the first. That shading took all day lmao my motivation was low 03:31, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Brighten some of the white on the front of the face? 19:39, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

It's at 100%, that's just shading. I've seen shading at that opacity on white, it should be fine? I tried to have some of the white show brighter but the white was low on his face where the shaidng is suppose to be. 20:49, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I think the white on the face is fine as is. Very well done Mel <span style="">21:46, 02/5/2019

Maybe define the light on it or erase some of the shading so the white is more visible. 22:19, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups 23:58, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

i feel like the tail could be quite a bit longer. it is what hes named for. 00:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I tried to match his other images, they seem to be about an inch longer. 00:11, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

talk could be longer, look how long the tail is compared to the other unedited blanks for his other ranks <span style="">00:28, 02/6/2019

Waste outside the big ear and few specks of black around the longer tailPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Could you erase some shading/texutre on the paws so that it looks white?

The collar shading still seems to be there. —

The collar isn't there, I removed it. There isn't texture on the paws, the shading only covers the bottom part of the paws? It gives it a light grey tone with how its done. I can screenshot how much the shading covers and its not very much. If I erase it, someone will then ask me to define it since I only have like half an inch of the paws in shading. Could I possibly get a second on that? 12:02, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

i think the front two paws should definitely be whitened 12:07, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Marmalade (KP) ~ CBA
It's marmalade jar on his collar, i have such a great sense of humour tried to match the loner dont yell at me pls --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    07:12, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The loner's markings are much duller, could you smooth out the markings and make them a bit duller? —

reups of course --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    07:28, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The ginger spots, stripes, and dorsal stripe are darker on the lonerPotato&#61;) (talk) 13:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Found some waste outside the tonguePotato&#61;) (talk) 13:56, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

maybe add another section of clumped fur to his chest - just under the collar? I'm not sure if you have to match to loner for fur tweaks, but that image does have a clump there 19:59 Sun Feb 3 2019

The dorsal stripes and the markings are definitely duller and lighter on the loner. The dorsal stripe is far, far too dark here. 22:13, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Blend the earpink, it's a little hardPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you elongate the spots? The rogue has more of a blotchy stripe pattern going on, especially on the flank. 22:37, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth out most of the shading? And it looks to dark on most of it. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:26, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, I dont think there's waste? I checked. It's either just the base or lineart. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    10:45, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reups redid the stripes since it looked rough ;; --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    10:56, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'll get rid of some minor line art merges in the next reupload. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    10:57, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Gonna fix shading in another reup. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    14:04, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

reups --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the two hind paws? 19:29, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

the shading looks black, can you make it look less black?<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 23:49, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reups marmalade spread marmalade spread --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    04:04, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 01:05, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Bumble (kp) ~ For Approval
I tried. -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    08:03, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups tried to make the patches stand out more -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    12:04, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the shading a little bit? 13:52, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Pupil is missing in --> that eyePotato&#61;) (talk) 13:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Also blend the earpink, looks a little hard--Potato&#61;) (talk) 14:09, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

that eye just shows the edge so I don't think it'd be seen that well anyway, define the earpink. 16:08, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups the pupil was definitely there, it was just a bit hard to see. Hopefully this better now -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    16:39, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Unfilled pawpadson the two back legs--Potato&#61;) (talk) 17:03, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

They are filled in, I just tried to make them look natural so they colour isn't outstanding. Second opinion please? -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    17:08, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The pawpads look fine to me. Can you define the light on the white? 17:15, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    18:04, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Your signature is causing my screen to switch from Visual to Source.. hmm. Blend the earpink more, still looks pretty hard--Potato&#61;) (talk) 19:09, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

I don't know whatever my sig is doing, I as I said it is acting weird. I'll reup soon -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    19:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    19:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

This is good but the loner has more patches on the tail and they are much boldet and sharper than what's here, and there are noticeable dark spots all over the loner. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 20:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

These areas need to be filled in. —

could you make the shading more defined in general? its kinda hard to see 05:35, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

reups the nose and collar tag was filled in, there colour was just very pale. -- 07:25, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define light on tail? --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    12:00, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Patch style, placement and pattern do not match. Loners are done way different, I can't think of how to describe them though so just look at it. The dark spots should also be visible upon the black. The placement doesn't seem nearly close and even if it's a different pose the side it shows is still the same so placement should be matched and the appearance of the patches should too and there needs to be patches on the tail. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 12:48, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I accidentally uploaded an older file (one when I only touched the pawpads, shading, nose and just started on tweaking the pattern) I'll upload the correct one when I'll come home. -- 14:04, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reups I'm gonna kill Erin Hunter for giving Bumble such a difficult pattern -- 10:10, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

There's no need for language like that. I think either the white or brown patch on <--- side of the face is leaking a bit. You're doing great! 19:28, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah don't kill the Erins, fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue and blend the earpink to make it less hardPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:47, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

could you define the shading on the legs? sorry for saying this twice ;; 13:58, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Reups -- 14:24, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Define the earpink, and suggestion to make it less hard, try smudging it into the peltPotato&#61;) (talk) 23:30, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the back paws. 01:27, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Pickle (KP) - CBA
just because his name is pickle <span style="">22:13, 02/3/2019

He needs a squashed-in facePotato&#61;) (talk) 22:14, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded I cant believe I forgot his squash face <span style="">22:27, 02/3/2019

Smooth out the shading on the haunch and shoulder? 22:33, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reup not sure if that made much of a difference but I cant seem to get it to blur anymore than this <span style="">22:53, 02/3/2019

Could you add a layer of shading depth?

Hmm, add some shading stretching outwards to the > front paw?

reupp so many layers of shading lmao <span style="">14:43, 02/4/2019

Could you smooth out the layer of shading depth to make a smoother gradient going between the two?

Could you define the facial shading?

Reup <span style="">19:54, 02/5/2019

CBA?

Stormcloud (KP) ~ CBA
Comments?

00:22, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smoothen out the shading on the flank? Eggheart (talk) 00:37, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

00:44, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the collar a tad?

Reuploaded

23:53, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 01:03, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Ziggy (KP) ~ For Approval
He was based on my cat and my cat is a ticked tabby. I'm not sure if this fits in so i might have to scrap it --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    11:59, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm I would add a bit more white to fit his description and also the shading needs to be smoothed along the back. 13:16, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Where is your light source I'm having a hard time telling as there seems to be shading at the top of --> leg and then the back of the tail. 13:21, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

can you smoothe the shading? also, I think he was more red, and had more stripes. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 21:05, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

He only has one image, so it would make sense to change the pattern I think. Also, this is called a pointed tabby, which means stripes don't have to be in the all over the image. Define the shading on <-- this back legPotato&#61;) (talk) 23:17, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, I'm very sure my cat is a ticked. He's a stray and strays commonly dont have pointed patterns. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:03, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Owl, this is my cat, I based him of it. There's no second image. I can change the pattern if I want to, I can only accept hawkey's because it needs a little more white. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:05, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Woah Silver calm down.. Owlbite is new and still learning... lower the opacity of the shading, just looks a little dark.

Silverfur, I believe Owl was just giving a critique. If you want to deny it, you can, but please try and word it so it does not come off as rude. 01:22, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I'm really sorry if that came out as rude, i honestly dont think it should b reddened. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:23, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reups I know there's waste, I'll fix it in the next reup. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:33, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I think it should be reddened. —

It's ginger? it doesn't say reddish ginger. I dont understand anymore. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:40, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

The coloring is fine. It says ginger-and-white, and that's what this is. Given Silver was trying to match an image of their cat, I really don't see the need to change the color. ​​

Oops, my b. I meant I agree that the shading should be tinted red. —

Reups Reddened the shading a bit? --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    02:08, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

shouldnt it be based off of the old kittypet version of Ziggy? <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 05:30, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

No it should not. It is a new pattern. Regardless, can you smooth out the shading? 05:47, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reups (2x) so much pain --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    06:09, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

gonna be this person unfortunately but... could you smooth it out a lil more ? try lightening it a little bit and if the depth goes out of whack add another layer of shading 14:29, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Ziggy zigzag --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    04:07, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

could you round out the shading above the back flank? like, perhaps add a small divot to align with the shape of the cat where the haunch dips? if this makes no sense I can draw it out lol <span style="">00:16 Thu Feb 7

Sasha (KP) - For Approval
Love this sweet, tough, independent kitty! 15:16, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Great job! But with this light source, would there be shading on the back? 15:41, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! The light source is supposed to be coming from the front, so yes. 15:44, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define the tail shading Malina457 (talk) 16:29, February 4, 2019 (UTC)malina

The shading's leaking away from the lineart on the backside of the < front arm's elbow

should this collar match how its depicted in tigerstar and sasha? 18:58, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Uh, what does that collar look like? Oops xD 20:14, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the paw pad closest to her tonguePotato&#61;) (talk) 23:17, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Add some shading depth to her face? i love sasha  <span style="">23:36, 02/4/2019

Reuploaded. Sorry about the collar mistake! 01:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Think I see some leaking shading where the length of the tail meets the rump lineart. 19:22, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I'm having a hard time seeing it D: Can I have a redline? 20:16, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

red line! 01:03, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Diesel (KP) - CBA
i love his name - my mad max loving heart is happy 20:39 Mon Feb 4 2019

Could you smooth the shading on the tail and < front arm?

reups how's that lookin? 08:04 Wed Feb 6 2019

Swell :3 CBA?

Snowdrop (KP) - For Approval
Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 00:20, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Snooth the shading on the haunch and belly <span style="">00:28, 02/5/2019

Define the eye depth and the shading on the ears. 02:57, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

re-ups Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 00:02, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the body and define the light on the legsPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:09, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

re-ups 'n stuff Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 02:14, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

with the light source you have, the light on the legs should be on top, not coming from below 08:33 Wed Feb 6 2019

Velvet (AVoS) (KP) ~ CBA


Likewise, can you define the light on the ear furthest from us? 19:20, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

CBA? 01:01, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Frostclaw (KP) ~ CBA


Is the paw pad closest to the tongue filled in? Love the collarPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:12, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded thanks^^

Could you define the light on the ear furthest from us? 19:18, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

CBA? 01:01, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Morningflower (Alt. E) ~ For Approval
All colors from queen alt. Comments? 00:44, February 5, 2019 (UTC) Whiten up the whitePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:08, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:15, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Small black dot on the head lineart that shouldn't be there, it's close to the earPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:40, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smooth the white where it meets the black just a bit, the part of her chest looks really straight edged as well. 03:04, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

The white matches the alt queen, I think it's fine. <span style="">21:55, 02/5/2019

Not sure what you're talking about, Potato. 03:13, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

its on the top of her left ear, i think thats what potato meant 12:03, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not saying smooth all the white just that super straight, hard-edged part so its not so straight/pixely like it is. 12:05, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I think it's smoothed enough, maybe just give it a curve so it'll appear better? -- 14:28, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. What you were talking about was part of the lineart. 21:13, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Alright.. let me elaborate Bluestar. shows the clip of the head. There's a trianglish dot on the lineart, and when you look at the elder blank, that dot isn't there. Sorry for sounding nitpicky Bluestar.Potato&#61;) (talk) 22:53, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I can't view the screenshot, so I'm still not sure what your talking about. 23:06, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Here, try this. That yellow pixel is filled in black on this, and shouldn't be there iirc

Ruby (KP) - For Approval
02:33, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Define the tail and head shading Malina457 (talk) 03:18, February 5, 2019 (UTC)malina

Honestly depth could be added everywhere

Re-uploaded: Yeah, I noticed right after I uploaded that the shading was hardly existent. Sorry about that. 05:39, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the tongue and maybe expand the shading on the haunch, it looks flat <span style="">00:17, 02/6/2019

Re-uploaded: Think I messed up on the tongue. 00:21, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for confusion but I meant expand it from the bum toward the tummy, not the other way, now it looks like it's just leaking. solid cats are the worst to shade <span style="">00:24, 02/6/2019

Hmm, do you think you could give me a redline? Sorry, kinda confused. 00:27, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

http://prntscr.com/mh6jim <span style="">00:31, 02/6/2019

Re-uploaded: Is this better? And is it too dark? 00:37, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

This is great! I do think the facial shading could be defined now, just a tiiiny bit to give it more depth to match the rest of the image, but this looks awesome <span style="">01:00, 02/6/2019

Add a touch to go along the base of the chest as well^^

Re-uploaded: Thanks, Ferk. But is it too dark now? 01:25, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Darkness is fine. Could you define the shading on the collar? I can't see any at all.

Re-uploaded: It displays better on GIMP but not when I upload it. Is this better? I can try doing a different layer of shading to try and make it look better. 01:31, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe just a little bit? I'm still having a lot of issues seeing it... I know that pain of it showing up one way and uploading another. I hate that.

There's a lighter area on the rump, right above the tail. That should be totally in shadow with this light source.

Betsy (KP) - CBA
This was based off of a reference image on the internet, I can show it if needed. 02:54, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. 22:17, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:13, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 01:00, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Tabby rogue - CBA
lol what physics lab 03:36, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Define shadingPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:52, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

reup 03:59, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 00:59, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Parsleyseed (KP) ~ For Approval
still sick :( 04:19, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Collar tag's lineart needs to be blackPotato&#61;) (talk) 14:04, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

What are you talking about? There's no rule for that regarding the collar lineart; just the main lineart itself. The collar looks perfectly fine. ​​

Sorry about that Jayce, Vec can do what she wants with it, though black lineart makes it more 3-D. Still, it's Vec's preference, sorry VecPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:53, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Gonna have to disagree with you on that. Coloured lineart > black lineart imo. Coloured lineart adds a certain amount of depth that black ultimately can't provide. I think it's fine and pretty the way it is. ^^ —

I'd prefer to keep it as it is. ^^ 13:13, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Duke (KP) - For Approval
hot pink is punk rock 04:36 Tue Feb 5 2019

Smooth shading on the front leg w no beans? <span style="">04:51, 02/5/2019

The white looks a little cream. Could you lighten it? (if it's colorpicked from the manga, ignore me)

reups matched him to his manga appearance because I didn't realise he was in one whoops? 08:23 Wed Feb 6 2019

Shadings leaking away from the lineart just a touch above the tongue^^

reups 19:11 Wed Feb 6 2019

Mitzi(KP)~ For Approval
Ive had this for a bit, I was just waiting for Dawncloud to be done! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 18:26, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

This is great! But could you define light on the collar as it's dark and sort of hard to see, whiten the white except for the face as it looks rather gray and add a bit of the base above the nose and between the eyes? Since she has a manga image and it has that bit of the base in the place it'd probably be good to have it here. You're getting good! <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 18:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Also, waste at base of the tail, both hindpaws, the outstretched forepaw, muzzle and both ears. I can't send screens in but if nobody else does I can later <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 18:37, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I dont see waste, and on my first upload, there wil ost likely be no waste. I do a waste check evry time, and I make absolute shure evry 3 times. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 18:46, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

[https://imgur.com/a/PJ38A8Q%7CHere's reference for the waste. It is there.] <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 19:03, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add another layer of shading to add some depth to the image? Very nice job Owl <span style="">19:10, 02/5/2019

Oh and as beautiful as this collar is, it has to match File:Mitzi.RP.png her manga collar. pls use this collar for another kittypet I love it so much <span style="">19:24, 02/5/2019

Re-up, Rip collar. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 19:45, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I liked the collar too, oh well. But the white hasn't been whitened at all. It's still very gray. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:46, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

The waste at the base of the tail is still there, btw, just checked. https://imgur.com/a/u4SZlQC <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, it is the shading making the white look gray. now I get the pain of white cats. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:01, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Looking good ^^. but don't forget to extend the stripe of the base on the face to reach the muzzle, there is on the queen you're matching. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 20:04, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

oh, you before said to have the base color between the eyes, but I set my base color to the white... oops! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:11, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

That's my bad then, I worded it wrongly. I was refrring to the red color as the base not thinking about what you might've used for the base. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 20:13, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, its okay. We all do that sometimes! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:15, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Patches are a bit overblurred, compared to the alt queen in the set

I agree, the patches should be more rough and three toned. The colors don't seem to match the image that was pointed out. 20:58, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

This is great Owlbite, but the pupils are brown, make them black or white (your choice dear friend), and define the light on the collar, and yes there's some waste outside the top of the collar, and unfilled pixels near the latter, still this is good dear friendPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:56, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

what unfilled pixels? and the puipls are artists choice, I vave had them on all my art. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 23:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Between the collar and ear, do you want a screenie?Potato&#61;) (talk) 00:10, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I see them, they are not unfilled pixels. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:23, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Would you like an unshaded screenshot of Mitzi's old image? I made it and would happily provide you with the correct colors should you need them. ​​​​

yes please. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:48, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Here you go. I realize the ear pink is hard to see, so the hex color for that is #EC7676. ​​​

Re-up, this is cute! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 03:49, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

maybe sharpen the shading on the face just a smidge? this is adorable owl! 08:36 Wed Feb 6 2019

Re-up, the face is gray!!! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 17:12, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, the face is no longer so gray. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 19:22, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Face should be whitened a bit, pupils are still brown, and the nosepink should match the color of the earpink, paw pads, and tonguePotato&#61;) (talk) 22:55, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Tongue doesn’t have to match. I have a black cat and his tongue is super pink, and his paw pads, nose, and ears are black. So nosepink is fine <span style="">23:03, 02/6/2019

I never match my nosepink to my earpink or anything like that, I don't think it's necessary. —

like I said before, the eye is artists choice, and it is in all my work. <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:03, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on both of the back feet and the shading in the ear. Define the lightsource on the center of the body too maybe? I'm having trouble judging where it is coming from, might just be me though so a second opinion here would be good. Smooth out the shading on the belly/flank. 01:20, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Jake (Alt Ro) - For Approval
just gonna finish off jake's family tree alt set now, everything fro my loner alt <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:55, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the (for lack of a better word) extremities? Like, tail, legs, whatnot? I'm not really seeing any light there. ​

Reups Is it better or should i define more <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 01:42, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I think the tail and front legs look good, but I'm not quite seeing much light still on the back legs. Particularly on the cream. 03:36, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

The shading on the haunch seems really stark compared to the rest, can you lighten it a bit? This is gorgeous <3 —

Leafstar (Alt KP) - For Approval
everything is from the cover of skyclan and the stranger; stripes match her greyscale appearances as seen on her page in her official art section. <span style="">19:57, 02/5/2019

Level out the shading on the neck? Looks a bit blotchy. —

Taylor (KP) - CBA
I will not be changing the collar for personal reasons. ​​​

Waste outside the chest floofPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:11, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

There's a white pixel just above the neck, could you define the shading? 00:13, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Where would you like me to define the shading, Mink? I feel the belly/flank shading is fine, but is there a certain area in particular you'd like me to define? ​

I think the forelegs are about the only place, its really pale there and hard to see. 00:16, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

CBA? 01:16, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Webster (KP) - CBA


The tongue should be pink, unless the black is intentionalPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:01, February 6, 2019 (UTC)​

Re-uploaded. No, I had a layer hidden.

CBA? 01:15, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Bella (KP) (KP) ~ For Approval
i will give her a fancy collar soon i just need ideas.

02:13, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Missing pupil in > that eye, and fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue, also are the pads on said leg with the tongue filled inPotato&#61;) (talk) 02:37, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

all the paw pads are filled in. 03:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe define them a bit more? They blend in really well with the base/texture/shading. —

Husker (KP) ~ For Approval
All colors from original image. Comments? 03:11, February 6, 2019 (UTC) Fill in the paw pad closest to the tonguePotato&#61;) (talk) 03:41, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the shading?

Is the tuft of fur on his head lighter like his description says? I can't really tell, but if that's just shading making it look darker, then disregard this comment. ^^ 16:32, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I colorpicked both the tuft and base color from the book, and the tuft seemed to be barely lighter than the base there. That, combined with the lightsource putting the tuft in shadows, makes it hard to see. 21:10, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Scarlet (KP) ~ For Approval
same name and description as an OC so i had to match her pattern.

could you define shading depth a little bit? especially around the belly area and on the outstretched arm 08:31 Wed Feb 6 2019

Re-uploaded

Hm. Feel free to disregard on grounds of artists choice in colors, but because she’s said to be a ginger tabby - could you make the base a bit more gingery? Kinda looks light brown now, that could be screens though

I definitely think it should be more ginger <span style="">16:12, 02/6/2019

Honestly, I think the coloring is fine. Ginger cats can be more orangey or brown in color. I can tell that it's supposed to be ginger. 16:30, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I agree, this looks more golden than gingerPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:56, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I think it's fine, its still ginger. The color ginger itself can be many shades. 01:46, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

I'd rather not change the shade. I color-picked off a real ginger cat (no special lightening whatsoever) and on my screen, it looks plenty orange to me. I don't see how it is light brown or golden - it may be your screens.

O'Hara (KP) ~ For approval
sorry its so bad LOL gotta get used to this computer and il tweak it more when ive actually slept 07:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Zack (kp)- for approval
since it just says "white pointed", i made him a pointed blue cream tortie 10:22, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Gorgeous and creative! Can you add some shading on --> ear? 16:29, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Rip I like this, but whoever readded Zack's description didn't add what we have a confirm for, and just merged the colorpoint part from when we had missing kits. They're just just white and light gray from what we can tell, so just changed his page to that. rip pretty cat

Fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue, waste near the front legs, and the eye white on the bigger eye is slightly leaking past the lineartPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:58, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I think she can just remove the ginger and switch the colors a little and it'd still be a gray and white cat.

Black star (NP-5.star-1) ~ For Approval
Told ya I would use those blue eyes again ^^ 13:57, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Smoothed out some of the shading. 14:17, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Mind darkening the base colour? It looks more dark gray now. -- 14:25, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

I think the base color is fine. Maybe make the earpink a little more pink? Even pure black cats have somewhat pink ears. Eggheart (talk) 14:53, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the shading?

Reups 20:13, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Algernon (KP) - For Approval
any tips to make the shading look right would be appreciated xoxo <span style="">00:02 Thu Feb 7

Texture is different on the rogue, not sure how to elaboratePotato&#61;) (talk) 00:46, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

I think it appears softer compared to the rogue? 00:54, February 7, 2019 (UTC)