Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Sorreltail - For Approval
Here's a picture of Sorreltail. What do you guys think? Sonia 1000 19:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice work,but it kinda looks funny.--Jayfeather113 21:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it looks rather nice, I think. My only suggestion would be maybe some shading and again maybe some working to make a more fur-like texture... but other than that it looks very good. Hmmm... As for approval, though, I think it's fine. Anyone disagree? Gorse 21:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok I'll work on it a little bit more, and then maybe I'll put it up if Gorse approves Sonia 1000 21:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Just curious, but what program do you use to do these? Eu ( Talk! Contribs ) 23:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Here, I uploaded a better version of Sorreltail. It's still horrible...but at least it's an improvement :) !! I'm not sure if I'm done yet though...please tell me your thoughts. Gorse, what do you think? Sonia 1000 02:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I like it. For some reason, my computer's colors are permanently wacko, so I can't see any deatils on the Tawnypelt pic', but I can see this one perfectly. It looks pretty good, but honestly, I liked the old one better. This one looks....blurry, to me. *shrugs*, maybe it just looks furry :p Eu ( Talk! Contribs ) 13:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, i was trying to get a furry look...I used MS Paint for this. Should I put it on the page, Gorse?Sonia 1000 00:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I like it. 9/10! Good job, Sonia 1000! GB 00:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it looks how a Sorreltail should look. Pretty tortoiseshell. I like it. --Bramble 18:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you think, Gorse? Is it Wiki material? GB 18:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually... I can't say that it is, entirely. If you look closely, you'll see a lot of tiny color distortions, with odd little shades that shouldn't be there. I'd compare this to my early days with Photoshop Elements, when I would overuse the "Sharpen" tool. It would add in all kinds of colors that weren't in the picture before, making it look slightly unnatural. Unless the colors are fixed, I can't fairly accept it. Gorse 04:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

It's got a furry look,but I agree with Gorse.It also is blurry.--JayfeatherSong of Storms~ 15:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Willowpelt - Approved
Hi everyone. What do you think? Willowpelt's pale gray with blue eyes, in case anyone forgot, so i think i got her the right color. --Bramble 14:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The only thing I spot off the top of my head is that the background isn't transparent. But that's not a big deal. I (or someone else) can convert it over to a PNG file before we drop it into the page if Gorse approves. (I frown against GIF for this one. Too much lost data, it'll make the shading go wonky) Kitsufox Fox's Den 19:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me. I really oughta try this, who knows, maybe I have a hidden talent ;)-- Eulalia ( Talk! – Contribs ) 21:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Kitsu and Eu. Looks fine by me. Rather nicely shaded, with all the details needed and no unecassary extras. It's good. Gorse 22:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I added transparency and will take it to the character page shortly. Excellent work, Bramble! Kitsufox Fox's Den 22:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That looks silver, not gray. GB  04:20, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Light gray and silver are the same color, really... It's completely accurate, and I believe it's already been approved and added to the characters' page because it's very well done. Really must start archiving these once they're approved...  Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:15, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Crowfeather - For Approval
I did this one of Crowfeather. I know its not much since Crowfeather doesn't have much detail. --Shim 20:41, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Every time I hear it I like the phrase 'the character doesn't have much detail' less and less every time I hear it. The character being a solid color does not excuse lack of shading! Please take the time to go back and shade it, just like every person who has submitted a flat-colored image has been told to do.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 21:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry Kitsu and I share that same peeve so I know how you feel. I redid Crowfeather and added shading to him. What do you think of him now?--Shim 21:54, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * . . . If it's a pet peeve of yours, why on earth did you offer up an image guilty of it? Anyways... The edges of the shading are really, really hard... Maybe soften them up a bit so they look smoother...  Kitsufox Fox's Den 00:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I soften the edges the best I can. I don't have photoshop so I find ways to do pictures on paint an blibs.com. I'll fix Squirrelflight soon.--Shim 03:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Because of the hard-line between the colors it looks like a black cat with a black stripe on his back... Unfortunately, paint and websites aren't suited to doing high quality graphics... You can, but you pretty much have to shade pixel-by-pixel to create the gradients and proper shading.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I took the advice at downloading that program you mention. I smooth him out and personally I like this version better than the rest. He's smoother and you can't see the black outline that was on his back anymore.--Shim 21:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I was talking just about the colors on his back... The colors that make up the pelt... not the outline itself... He looks blurry... Like I'm wearing beer-glasses or have my contacts out or something...  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know about this one. It looks to dusty. I give it a 3/10. Sorry, Shim. If you want to get that score up, however, make him look less blurry and dusty. I do think you did a good job on the color! GB  04:22, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Squirrelflight - For Approval
I also did a Squirrelflight picture. Let me know if you believe anything needs to be changed about it.--Shim 23:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow!I like this one.--JayfeatherTalk 00:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don't... But I've never liked the cartoon-triangle-tabby in pixeling, so I'm automaticaly a touch against the style. Also, all of the shading edges are very hard-line, and it would look a lot nicer smoothed out and blended. And... that flood-filled-black background needs to go.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 00:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Well,I think it looks good. Why shouldn't we use it? It looks like it was done with a lot of effort, and it wasn't slapped together!!--Mousefire 04:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for great ratings Jay and Mouse. Well Kitsu this is the best I can do. I took away the background. I made the edges as soft as I could. I also took away those cartoon-triangle-tabby in pixeling markings. --Shim 04:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I was the first to admit I'm biased against that way of doing tabby and simply don't like it. *points up* Though now she dosen't have tabby markings and needs 'em. I was gonna wait for Gorse, who's actually in charge of the project to weight in. But I do have a feeling that she's going to want to seek improvement based on the fact that it looks really unfinished with the hard-lines between the shading and the main color areas. Mousefire, putting effort into things is never going to be grounds for using them. The quality of the final product is what we care about. Weather it takes 10 minuets or 10 hours to achieve, it's about how good it looks in the end. The fact that Shimmerpool is using a very low-powered and inflexible program that naturally achieves poor results means S/he'll have to work twice as hard as people with programs like GIMP (which is free for download, BTW) or Photoshop to achieve suitable results.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Now, I think you did a good job on this one Shim. But that looks more like Foxpaw than Squirrelflight. Remember, she's ginger, which looks slightly like orange. That color is reddish tabby, Foxpaw's pelt. If you want to know what Squirrelflight looks like, go to warriorcats.com! I give it a 4/10. Sorry, Shim. To get that score up, change the color of the fur! SIGNED, GB  03:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I personally don't like it, as it does look more like Foxpaw than Squirrelflight, and anyway, Squirrelflight's not red. Blackstar78 15:07, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Color is way too dark! She is not red, she's a light shade of orange.-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; ( T – C – G ) 21:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Weaselfur - Approved
Finally got my butt in gear. Here's something I whipped up for Weaselfur. The hard part at this point is finding characters that have their pixels ready for them, as we're still awaiting pixels for most of the ranked characters. Also, I typically have a huge problem with tabbies and making them look good/realistic, so I've been trying to hold off on those or I fear I'll never get anything done. Anyway, opinions? Gorse 18:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I like it Gorse, but maybe he should be a bit more ginger in color. His pelt looks tan, not orange. Other than that, he's awesome! --Bramble 18:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it looks good! Totally like Weaselfur! I give it an 8/10! GB  19:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It's great, except for the point Bramble brought up, that it looks like a shade of brown, not ginger.


 * Please not that I have updated the pixel to include some of the suggestions made about it. Gorse 00:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Gorse, you're absoballyflippinglutely amazing, did you know that? The color looks great, now.-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; ( T – C – G ) 00:31, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * This is like the best picture out of all of them! --Redflare 01:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Redflare, please take care not to seperate people's signatures from their statements. Gorse, the pixel looks great! I see no reason not to call it approved. Ship it off to the page, eh?  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I think its absolutely perfect, Gorse! You should put it up. --Bramble 22:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Brightheart - For Approval
This is Brightheart(obviously). What's everybody think about it? Constructive criticism appreciated. --Bramble 19:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Very Good! I'm impressed Bramble! That's totally Brightheart! Gorse would be crazy not to approve of it! I give it a 10/10! Great Job! GB  19:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you GB(or GroceryBag, whichever you prefer)! Kitsu, Gorse? Comments? --Bramble 19:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * So far, both of your new cat pics have been scored 10/10 by me! I think you do a great job, Bramble! GB  22:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Good job, Bramble (not Bumble ;)). I like how you made the ear ragged. I had been wondering how that would look.-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; ( T – C – G ) 21:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Wonderful!!!! I can't surpress it! It is WONDERFUL to see such a marvalous picture of Brightheart! When it is approved (when, not if, when), please send me the code for it!! Oh, dear, I hope I don't sound like a Brightheart freak... Brightheart 01:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The only issue I've got is that the patches are a bit circular... They're very very regular and smooth and unnatural. I'd like to see more patchiness or just rougher edges on the patches that are there. The pixel is overall very nice, though. I like that you took the time to shred her ear.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Cloudtail - For Approval
I also did Cloudtail. I made sure to do shading.--Bramble 19:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Excellent! This is the Cloudtail we've been looking for! Great job! I give it a 10/10! GB 20:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I like this one as well. It isn't all one color, it has good shading, but it's in the gif, not png, file format, which can be fixed, should we decide to accept it.-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; ( T – C – G ) 21:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Gif isn't going to damage the image quality because of the low number of colors. It's great looking. The only room for improvement might be adding a bit more shading through the shoulders, so he looks more rounded and less flat there.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:55, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Kitten Pixel Blank - For Approval
A kitten blank for use, because I felt like doing something artsy and it seemed more needed than coloring since we've got a few people on that nowadays.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 04:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Great job, Kitsu! I like it! GB  15:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow Kitsu, that's great :) It even looks playful. I made some...attempts at making pixels for the other ranks, and I had the "kit" (it was a kit, just looked like a lump of dirt) stretching up for a leaf on one try, and rolling on it's back on another.-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; ( T – C – G ) 15:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks GB, Eu. The playful look came from my refrence photos of kittens. I don't like to make pixel blanks without reference pics to get things right. Side note: If the blank is approved, I'll make longhaired versions (by adding fluff) and the gender specific versions in the style established by the other set. I just didn't want to make all 4 blanks in one go without getting input. I'd rather sort out issues people have on the shorthair because it's easier ;)  Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I like it,but it's eyes are kinda freaky.--JayfeatherSong of Storms~ 15:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * *Snicker* My assumption is that the artists will put in eyes that look good. Rather than having them look sorta icky like they do on the Warrior and Apprentice versions when you color 'em in. This way artists create their own pupil/iris and things will look a lot better, and more natural.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The only problem (not so much a problem, but whatever) is that it's small. Yes, I know kittens are supposed to be small, but will it look too small in Charcat?-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; ( T – C – G ) 16:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I scaled it against the apprentice pixel, to be half the size. So that when characters who grow up during the books have their older pixels sent to the bottom of the article somewhere, we can line 'em up and the sizes as they grow up will all be scaled against each other. So I'd rather not enlarge it any. If it looks small in Charcat... well ;) Kittens are small.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This is great, Kitsu. It should definitely be used. FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

   The full set, all lined up. Males, Short and Long Haired. Females, Short and Long Haired. Figured I'd trade 'em out since I have the full set ready to go now, and no one had anything to say against my pixels (really... Size was the only possible issue... But I refuse to make giant kittens ;) ) <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering if I could join...
I really like doing all this graphic stuff, wondered if I could help out with the project.FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 12:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure! We can always use new people on the team! ^^ Gorse 17:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Free Image Editors
Anyone know a free image editor? Mine's going haywire.FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 16:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I know a lot of people use one called GIMP... Personally I'm spoiled. I <3 My Photoshop... But it's one heck of an expensive program. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thx Kitsufox. I'll look that one up. FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Thornclaw - For Approval
Here's my attempt at Thornclaw. Feel free to comment, I appreciate it.
 * Flat colors are never accepted. Time and time again Gorse and I have stressed shading... and considering this cat is a tabby... well there's definitely going to have to be work done on it. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * shakes head* First of all, PLEASE sign all your comments by putting four "~"s at the end of each post, or clicking the signature button. Second, this can't be accepted. No tabby markings, and no shading. Tabby markings can be hard, I know. They're the one things I honestly feel I'm unable to do at this point. But we still need them if the cat is a tabby. Anyway, work on the markings and the shading, then submit it again and well see how it looks then. Gorse 16:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)