Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Ice (Lo) - For Approval
Ice's loner version. Comments? - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  18:33, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink, so it doesn't blend in with the pelt as much. This looks great! :) 19:02, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Aw thanks :) - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  19:15, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and maybe give him a blood clan collar. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 20:00, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can you also give him amber eyes, like on his rogue image? 04:00, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darkened the shading, attempted to blurr the shading adn highlights, and lightened the ear pink. Added collar, though it isn' t ver good :| - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  14:40, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Move the highlights up on to the middle of his shoulder and hip, blur the shading a bit more, and make the teeth on the collar more noticeable, it looks like the collar is more jeweled rather than has teeth coming out of it. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 15:45, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

The collar looks a bit flat. Make the shading more noticeable there. :] 17:37, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Can you rename it Ice.loner.png? And there is some blurred lineart on the right-back leg, near the tail. 20:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

In his Rogue charart he has a blue collar, not a red one, so you should probably change the color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 02:06, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *sigh* not much better, but I added more highlights, blurred, changed collar color adn fixed the teeth, ext. - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  19:48, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:41, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Dry making the ear a little more reddish-pinkish instead of pinkish Feathermoon 01:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Brighten the highlights. 01:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink. 98.22.152.78 23:39, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Since he's in bloodclan, i belive he needs dog teeth reinforced in his claws. Right? 00:10, March 20, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Good point, Feathermoon. And blur the shading a little more.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I checked his rouge version and he didn't have teeth on his claws, so wouldn't that look weird? anywho, Reuploaded, I brightened the highlights and blurred the shading. Should I make the shading darker? I think it should be darker, but i realized that after I reuploaded it :| - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah darken it a little bit and desaturate the earpink. 20:43, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Claws can easily be added to his rogue image on tweak week. So for now I think he should have claws. You might want to use Scourge as a refence. 02:17, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Add some shading to the middle of the belly. They aren't just flat surfaces, remember =D --   Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 06:56, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pupil angle upwards.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make therpink look more real, it looks too....ah, dark and fake. Maplepool 22:32, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:16, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I am, parden my lack of reply. Reuploaded Now, I'm not sure what color to make the earpink, so which would look more normal? - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:42, March 28, 2011 (UTC)



I'd say around one. That's the closest to what I would use for a grey cat, though I would use a more red-hued pink. -- 20:54, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

The first or second look good. Add shading to where the haunch meets the body and upwards and where the front leg meets the body and upwards. Looking good. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the tail is too light, and the body shading is really dark. Lighten it a bit. 02:58, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. W) - For Approval
Before any of you say something about blurring the shading/highlights, I just want to say I've blurred it as much as Pixlr has allowed me. Someone want to help? 01:07, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll blur it in GIMP. 01:31, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! 01:56, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Amke the ear pink more triangular, blur it, and make it more red. 02:26, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I blurred the shading for you, but I don't think I did it enough though :P 06:02, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear-pink more noticeable. 17:37, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the highlights have to be blurred more as well. Also there is some blurred lineart on his front left paw and back left leg. The eye color looks like a brown, maybe make it more amber. 20:05, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened the shading, re-did the earpink, and triple-checked for blurred lineart. I found nothing. Besides, I took the eye color from the regular Birchfall. I also blurred the shading as much as it'll blur. Will someone heelp me a teensy-bit more? 03:40, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Could you fix the earpink? 12:15, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink as well to make it more noticable. (Phew, glad I'm not the only one who uses Pixlr on everything!) 21:16, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading ot the chest and maybe add highlights (If they are already there brighten them :3). 01:31, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't add too much shading to his chest, 'cause the light is kinda coming, like, directly in front of there. I also fixed the earpink, and blurred everything to the max. Can someone help me some more? 03:04, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'll blur it some more if you want :) 03:42, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please! 03:45, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- It helped some. Could use a bit more... 04:04, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-re-uploaded- Sorry did the wrong one the first time X /. 04:15, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

lol....anyway, thanks Iceheart! 00:17, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink either brighter or darker, whichever makes it look more noticeable. 01:02, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened it. :S 03:32, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger and scoot it farther up the ear a little. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:03, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:53, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:27, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

darken the ear-pink. Maybe make it a bit of a dark red/maroonish color? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 19:19, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Move the earpink up a little bit in the ear and maybe widen it a bit because it looks too thin, but don't make it too big. :3 20:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job =D Make the ear pink a lighter color because it's too red. --  Icy 123   ♥  23:59, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't lighten it, because I'm not too sure what people want me to do. Some say darken, others say lighten. :P 00:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I know this has been said before, but the earpink really should be lighter. It needs to match the coat more. Don't lighten it a lot, but it shouldn't be so dark-purple. --  Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 06:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Wildheart on this. Also, can the shading be darkened? It looks like there's not a lot there. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 22:09, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Just darken and blur the shading, and lighten the ear pink a bit, like Wildheart said. 22:24, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred the shading a lot, so if it needs more, [which it probably does] can someone help me? 02:09, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I will. 02:15, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I blurred the shading a lot, and I feel your pain, Rainlegs. It was really hard to do. It involved the smudge tool, and halfway through I realized I'd killed the ear pink so I had to erase it and redo it since I didn't wanna start all over with my blurring. The changes aren't showing up for me, though. Are they for any of you? 02:56, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, they're showing up now. Does anyone else think the shading could be darkened a bit? I think I over-blurred. :/ 02:56, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yay, someone finally understands my issues with this cat! XD I think it could be darkened a tad more. Do you want me to do it, or would you still want to do it, so you can blur it after it's added? 03:02, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

It's your charart, so, it's your call. :3 03:09, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mmmkay. I darkened it, can you blur it some more? 03:17, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mmkay. 21:46, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading on the back.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. 14:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the left (our left) ear and the neck. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the chin/neck area Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I blurred the shading. 21:06, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I added the chin shading, but I think it needs to blurred more. :P 01:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah blur that =) Put your blur tool on 100%, if it isn't already. --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:35, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Snake (Lo) - For Approval
I'm not sure if he would get a collar or not, What do you think? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 03:33, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Great! Just lighten the Highlights and darken the shading. Feathermoon 03:44, March 13, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Yes I believe he should get a collar. Make the ear pink more reddish-- Night  shine  06:18, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they need collars. Use Bone and Scourge's images to help, I found them sueful when dooing Ice's collar. - Ginger  tail <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script>The Luck Of The Irish... <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script> 14:43, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Collar fail. XP

Maybe put some shading under the collar. 20:46, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I just realized ICE was the one who had a blue collar. Snake has a red one. I added some shading under the collar like Riverpelt said.

Thicken the shading or add highlights. The midsection just looks... emptyish. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:38, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the end of the tail. Not a highlight, but just not in shadow. 01:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I won't be able to work on this for a fewdays. My computer's been acting wacky and my brother can't fix it for a few more days. I'll work on this as soon as it's fixed though. Sorry. D: ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:21, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading and highlights.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:07, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

My computer's starting to work better, though it still acts up sometimes. I'll get back to working on this as much as I can now. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 09:11, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Not completely sure I like this version.... :/ And just cause people keep sayng stuff about highlights, let me just say, there is none on this image, so don't bother commenting about those. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 09:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the belly highlight and make him a color that is closer to Ice's.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:18, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think this is ready. Comments before approval? Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

The back shading and belly shading are so. . . thick. . . they almost meet. And the shading altogether is a bit blotchy. 02:56, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blotchy? I don't know exactly how to fix that..... It's blurred pretty much to the max, and I don't really see where it's blotchy. How do I fix it? And I'll thin out the shading on the back and stomache. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:33, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Pinestar (alt. L) - For Approval
He was described as tawny in Bluestar's Prophecy. Comments/criticsm?  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  18:03, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink and darken the shading. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 18:30, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the tail, fix that please. :3 19:11, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink....it looks kinda weird. 11:07, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

It should be a bit more orange-y. There's some blurred lineart on the front right leg also. 192.203.211.254 17:33, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Make the earpink less purply and more red-pink. 22:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also, do you have a ref for that? There's nothing on his page. 03:30, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

I tried posting this thre times but my computer got screwed up -.- theres a tad of white on the tail you forgot to color in, and the highlights could be blurred a tad. - Ginger  tail <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script>The Luck Of The Irish... <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script> 20:30, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink should fill the whole ear. 01:28, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't really have to. Looks fine! --  Moon  leaf  02:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it does have to, thats how the line art was designed. 03:41, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

If you want to know what tawny should look like, look at my alternate for Tawnypelt on this page. I think there is some blurred lineart on the haunch. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think this color for tawny looks fine. 20:09, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Same here. On the tail, there's a white pixel in the lineart. Can you fill that in? Echostar229 01:27, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

There's also blurred lineart on the tail. It may have some one of the forelegs but I'm not too positive on that. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:07, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. '' <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, make this more gingery (it's too brown right now) and lighten the ear pink. Also make the ear pink fill the whole ear. -- Night  shine  18:49, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink a little and blur the tail shading. 01:37, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:12, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

The white pixel on the tail still isn't filled in, so fill that in please. Also, the earpink isn't filling the whole ear still and brighten the highlights more. 17:18, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is there a tiny gray smudge between the tail and the foot? Also, blur the shading. 04:40, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nightflower is right. It needs to be removed. Unless this has already been discussed, brighten the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:47, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe darken the ear pink a bit more, it's kinda hard to see. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, make the earpink more visible, then blur it. 22:14, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

There is blurred lineart on the right ear. 20:40, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Define/darken the ear pink to make it more noticable and maybe blur a tad the highlight on the chest. 23:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:29, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

If Mistfire has abandoned this, I'd be willing to take over. 17:03, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hey, I'm still working on it :P I'm only allowed to use the computer on weekends, so there will be 5-6 day gaps between each reupload. And Rainy promised on the IRC that she would blur the highlights for me.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:09, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. 20:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a paler reddish colour. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:19, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink, it looks too bright. 22:17, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Willowbreeze (K)- For Approval
Here she is..... Comments? Echostar229 03:37, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink darker/more dull. 03:39, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any silver parts, maybe add some streaks or patches? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:57, March 16, 2011 (UTC) scratch that. Darken the whole thing a tad. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:48, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Echostar229 01:31, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:19, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Echostar, you can only have one image up for approval. As of now, you have two; Oakheart and Willowbreeze. I don't know what happens next, another user probably know though. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well she stopped working on it I think. Echostar, I suggest you put withdrawn by user on Oakheart's image, or we can see if it'll just be declined because the image may not be needed. Oh and brighten the highlights a tad on the image. :3 20:12, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

I did put the words 'Withdrawn' on it, and the image has been removed from the page. I had stopped working on him about a week ago, in case no one noticed my lack of updating him, me starting a new image, and the big words in the title. Oh, and, reuploaded. Echostar229 01:25, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well you never actually specified that you had withdrawn it. So please do so in the future. Add tail shading, add shading to the fore arms, add shading under the chin Night  shine  01:29, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Weird, 'cause it said 'Withdrawn' next to it on my computer before it was archived. The light's coming from the left [her right] so I don't think she would have chin shading. There's also shading on her arms and tail. Echostar229 01:38, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

I was the one that put withdrawn there. There should be shading under the chin since all other kit chararts have that and it makes it look less flat. Darken the shading on the forearms/tail Night  shine  23:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. Reuploaded. Echostar229 00:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Darkhallows... Mew? 04:57, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. 01:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think the shading's gotten worse...... :S Echostar229 03:53, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading go all the way across under the chin/ the neck. 22:54, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest and tail. 22:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Go blur crazy! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Thin out the shading on the top of the chest. It needs to round out more, to fit the shape of the chest. --  Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 07:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Will anyone help me with blurring? Echostar229 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken her shading to make her look more like her other chararts up for approval because they are darker than this..Honeybreeze 18:32, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help =) And the colouring is fine; you don't need to fix it. Enlarge the earpink a bit and then blur it --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:31, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest lots.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:22, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/blur that little highlight on the tail tip or lighten if that was shading. 00:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it and reuploaded it for you, Echostar =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:45, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add/lighten the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more even, and center it. 00:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Willowbreeze (A) ~ For Approval
I know that it doesn't really match Echostar's but I'm still playing around with different patterns, until I see Night Shine's. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:01, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Scratch that, I'm gonna redo it, I saw her description as "Silver and gray she-cat". <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Redone. Comments for improvement? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:22, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink less purple. 04:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing, it's too light right now-- Night  shine  04:30, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:47, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken shading on far forearm, add shading under chin and to space in front of forearm on chest. Add/darken the ear pink Night  shine  04:53, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:00, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 20:13, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 21:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit Night  shine  00:44, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 02:13, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, it looks kind of flat-- Night  shine  22:59, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights to the fronts of the legs  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  21:15, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:49, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, the shading is just a bit lumpy/rough/uneven. Blur it all a bit. 01:34, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:07, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur neck shading  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:26, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder shading. 22:51, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

And the haunch shading. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:45, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

There is haunch shading... Anyway, blur the haunch highlight. :3 01:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading on the forearms, darken the chest shading, add a bit of shading under the chin Night  shine  22:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, it looks a little lumpy, and add shading to the top of the head. 02:14, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I think I just made it worse though... <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 18:51, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, or darken the highlights.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 16:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit and blur them. Looks good. =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading a bit. 03:37, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

There appear to be blurred pixels on the tail. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Willowbreeze (W) - Declined
Comments? Night shine  04:30, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work. Darken the ear-pink and make it a bit paler (it looks kinda coralish), blur the highlights on the shoulder and flank, and maybe lighten it all a bit? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:31, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, should I darken the ear pink or make it more pale? Night shine  04:35, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was kinda vague. darken it a tad. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:36, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded lightened it a bit, darkened ear pink Night  shine  04:53, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading around the neck and shoulder areas. Feathermoon 22:57, March 16, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Hm, the shading there looks fine on my computer. Night shine  00:43, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

The shading does look like it needs to blurred around the neck and shoulder. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:08, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I darkened the shading because it looked to light for me, and I also blurred it-- Night  shine  22:58, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, it seems that there's a dark spot on her one paw. Back paw on her haunch. It seems like it shouldn't be there. Should it? Other than that, she looks really good, Nightshine. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 01:09, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lightn the shading and blur the highlights.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:35, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading near the middle of her stomach a bit more. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:52, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Very pretty, however, the shading on the tail looks off. The light source is coming from the front, but there is shading on the bottom of the tail and highlights on the top. You should have shading around the edges with highlights in the middle. Also, blur the shading a bit. Other than that, it looks amazing. 01:33, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the back legs is uneven. The very right of the back leg is lighter, it's normal colour, however, shouldn't it be darker? Unless I'm seeing it wrong. :3 Lovely charart. 01:37, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I redid it. Comments? Night shine  18:56, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading. 22:50, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred the neck shading, but I think it looks worse now Night  shine  23:01, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

It looks darker than it should be. How about lightening it up just a tad, then blurring a little more? Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 17:43, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can you try and make the ear pink a bit bigger? :3 21:39, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I did what I could to the neck shading. The ear pink was already big enough so I just made it a little darker Night  shine  22:00, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely! Blur the shading by her jaw and on her forelegs a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 15:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded it's not that noticeable, but I blurred the shading Night  shine  22:02, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great Nightshine! Blur/darken the highlights when they meet the shading on the haunch and chest area. 22:58, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't add highlights to this. Night shine  23:35, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Then blur the shading in the mentioned areas, instead. 02:13, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur earpink and blur/lighten shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:41, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading near the jaw a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 16:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred shading and ear pink. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

So if Graypool doesn't get one, Willowbreeze doesn't either. Does anybody have a book they can check? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:25, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I already checked my copy of Battles of the Clans and they never show up as warriors. I'll archive this soon. Night shine  01:14, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Okay, Tigerheart re-posted! Comments? --  Moon  leaf  17:36, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

This looks better. I can't think of anything that would need touching up. I don't think it could use more blurring, either. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 17:42, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes a bit. 18:34, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

How? 21:18, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means make them more noticeable. 21:38, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried. 21:54, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes and make the ear pink more noticeable. Night shine  21:57, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make the stripes a bit more wavy to they match the pattern in his alt. apprentice charart. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 00:39, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little and blur it. 01:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is it too dark? 17:04, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Just a tad. Can you lighten up his back just a little bit? <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 17:13, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't a torn ear mean that the tip is completely torn off, rather than having it nicked? Maybe change it to that. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink a bit. 22:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Dang, forgot to sign 00:21, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more and maybe add some by the belly and up the back. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:12, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading between the stripes a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 17:42, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:52, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

He only has a torn ear and here it's completely ripped off. Make it so that it's torn. Darken the stripes, add a few more tail stripes, darken shading and add neck and belly shading Night  shine  22:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded What a fail! o.o 23:51, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and they seem to be in one blob. The face, shoulder, haunch, tail and leg highlights should all be separate. 02:12, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:39, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

make the shredded eat less rounded and make it more pointish. 18:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Reuploaded Now more failz 20:03, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make his match like the one on his current warrior image, and then make where you re-draw the line for the ear a bit thicker. Maplepool 23:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

No keep the stripes whre they are, dont make it match its warrior image. Maplepool its been decided that it should match the other alts. 23:55, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear a bit bigger; right now it looks like there is no ear at all =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:33, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Tell me if the changes show. 15:01, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

No, Iceheart, I was talking about his ear, I know the stripes stay the way the way are, im not a idiot -_- I was talking about make the ear look more like the on on his current warrior image and when (s)he redoes it, make it look more the rest of the lineart, a bit thicker. Maplepool 15:37, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm a girl, and there's no torn ear on his warrior charart :/ 19:58, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:52, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:55, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Huh, I swear i was atorn ear on him once... but do as Mistfire said other that i see no other changes need to be made, as far as I can see. Maplepool 22:30, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are really big and thick and the highlights still appear to be one huge unseparated blob, and they need to be blurred a lot. 01:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think the stripes look fine. 04:49, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad and match the colours a bit better to the apprentice alt. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:52, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and sharpen the stripes a lot. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:58, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I used the sharpen tool. Now it's more failz. 19:36, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Instead of using the blur tool and setting it to "sharpen", use the smudge tool to smooth out the edges into points. Blur the shading a bit. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is very uneven. Make the colours match the ones on his alternate apprentice image Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

So I should re-do it? 19:53, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

It's up to you. If you think you can fix all the commented areas without redoing the whole image, go right ahead ;) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid it :D 17:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry guys, the changes aren't showing :/ 19:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Try uploading it until the new version shows up Night  shine  01:14, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfur (alt.A) ~ For Approval


Brackenfur was described as a brown tabby apprentice in Forest of Secrets. Comments? 21:52, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. 21:53, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes, add more stripes to his face, forearms, and tail. Make the ear pink smaller and more reddish Night  shine  21:57, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable and darken the shading on the legs a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:09, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 22:27, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Would Brackenfur get an alternate? I mean, Golden-brown and brown are quite similar. 22:41, March 21, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I think so...because they're actually really different golden-brown is more golden, and brown is more...brown. Brackenfur is often called ginger, too, but thats too close, I guess.... 22:50, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well Brackenfur is a ginger-golden tabby and this is just brown. So I think it's fine. Darken the tail stripes, make the stripes thinner and add more of them. Add stripes to his face. Lighten the ear pink Night  shine  23:07, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. 23:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 23:23, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Move the ear pink up a little and blur it. 01:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 22:01, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes so they will blend in more with the pelt. 21:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

But he was called a tabby, so shouldn't the stripes stand out, instead of blending in? 21:41, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

She doesn't mean to make them really hard to see. . . just. . . blend in more. XD But I think the stripes are too big and thick. Maybe make them smaller and add a few more? Darken the shading, brighten the highlights. Move the shoulder highlight up so it isn't half on his arm/belly, and the face highlight should be in the middle around the cheeks/whiskers with shading on top of the head. Make the ear pink smaller and add stripes to the legs. 22:22, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

RE-Uploaded. 23:23, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes to the legs, and define them a bit --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:34, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. 17:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:53, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth those two little stripes by the eye. 00:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and lighten this a lot; this is a light brown tabby alternate, not just a brown tabby alternate. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:54, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Wildheart; it needs to be lightened a lot. The stripes are still really thick and there still aren't any on the legs. 01:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you added the stripes after you did the shading and highlights. Make sure the stripes have shading and highlights along with the rest of the pelt. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

'''RE-Uploaded. ''' 22:18, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image a bunch more. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think its light enough. :P Besides, as long as its not dark brown, its light enough, right?... 22:50, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I lightened it XD 22:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to be nitpicky... but lighten it a little bit more? kthxbye XD --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:07, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are bothering me. They look like huge triangles and they don't fit together, but then the leg ones are really small, and they don't cover the entire legs, they're only on one leg. Also, the two lines under his eye are huge. His back legs don't have stripes. 03:40, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then...I'll try, but I might need help... 21:55, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 22:18, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder highlight. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

RE-Uploaded. Comments? 23:20, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

The back leg still needs stripes. 00:00, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

The back front leg? I added them, but they're not easy to see... 00:01, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 00:04, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add a stripe to the top of his head, add shading and highlights to the stripes. Could you make the stripes a little thinner so you can add more to the haunch? It would look more realistic that way. Lighten the ear pink a bit Night  shine  01:13, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Harley (Alt. R)~ For Approval
Comments? 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! Define the stripes a tad more, add a small bit of highlight to the front legs, and give his nose a color. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:17, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing a bit more and desaturate the ear pink. Night shine  22:19, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 22:41, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit Night  shine  23:05, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 04:07, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

There are few lighter pixels on the right back leg and right below the tail. Fix those and this will be ready Night  shine  22:59, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad or the image. I can't really see the stripes ont he back that well. Also, a few (near the head and shoulder) stripes are really messily smudged. Otherwise, nice work. :] 20:33, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and also, are you doing the gray-black version? I'm assuming you are, since it's the only character description in the trivia. :3 This shouldn't be a tabby, it should probably be two-toned. The trivia didn't say anything about it being a tabby. 20:56, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I defined some stripes, lightened it and got rid of the pixels. As for the stripes Brackenfur alt., Rowanfur, and Skipper all got stripes when they weren't described with them.If its a big issue i'll change them but i think it's okay. 22:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but since ginger cats all naturally have stripes. That's why they got them. As for the charart, it looks great but you need to blur the belly and tail shading, and maybe darken/desaturate the ear pink a bit? Seems pretty bright. . . could just be me. 22:20, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Brackenfur alt was russet. He got stripes because the original had stripes. Like this one. 22:36, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Russet is pretty much just dark ginger, you know. . . 22:53, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

If so, they shouldn't have been as obvious, but it's too late for that. I think this is fine. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:35, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart, if the alternate isn't supposed to have stripes, and it's up for approval, it's never too late. She's perfectly capable of changing it. 02:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

But i dont think i should have to change it. Its not really your call Dovesong. If anyone else is upset about it i'll lighten them so they're harder to see, but i dont want to get rid on them. Call it artistic license. 07:42, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I personally think it doesn't matter if the image has stripes or not. Make the earpink less...obvious. 19:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 21:04, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and make the earpink more purply.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:01, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart, please don't call my Dovesong. The signature says it all. Anyways, how does it make sense at all to add stripes to an image that doesn't need them? They said, 'dark gray' not 'dark gray tabby'. At this point I could reasonably claim you're leaving the stripes on because you're lazy and think they look pretty. 01:17, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Also, Skipper didn't get tabby stripes. I remember Nightshine told me that that was the shading, before. And yeah, I agree with Mosspool that she doesn't get tabby stripes. But derp, I can't make this decision on my own. XD Does anyone think that they SHOULD have stripes? If this goes into a longn debate, I"ll make this into a forum. 01:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand why this would turn into some long debate. . they never described him with stripes, he doesn't get stripes. Common sense? 01:28, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I was just waiting for an actual leads opinion, please refrain from assuming I'm just lazy, because we all know what happens when you assume, And Mosspool/Dovesong, while we're on the subject of your signature, it's actually a violation of the Signature Policy, you might want to fix that. But back to the subject at hand, everything is blurred to the max and if i go any darker with the shading it just looks stupid. 05:01, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Did you use layers for this? If you did, you can probably blur it more. If you aren't using layers, maybe try using the smudge tool first. You just need to blur it in the middle, that's all. 05:08, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me... --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 05:10, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, oops. Turns out I was viewing it at an odd angle, and my brightness levels were wayy up. XD Sorry for the confusion. 05:15, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart, I assumed you had enough common sense to realize that if they didn't describe him with stripes, he doesn't have stripes. And please, just stop calling me Dovesong. You could also accuse former PCA senior warrior Hawktalon of violating the signature policy. . . everyone knows me as Mossy and it's what I want to be called. And if you wanted a lead opinion, then you could've said something. Whatever. Blur the highlights and shading. If it's all blurred to the max, then you might want to try smudging the shading and highlights and then blurring it to smoothen the rough look that smudging creates. That always works well for me. ;) And maybe make the ear pink a teensy bit bigger. 05:47, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well few know you as "Mr. Moose" so please change it. Other people have made images with stripes when they weren't described with them, so why shouldn't she? It's not common sense, so don't belittle her intelligence. The shading and highlights look fine. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 06:02, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't belittling her intelligence; but those images were all ginger cats and that was explained to her. It just bothered me that she wasn't changing it. Yeah, no one calls me Mr. Moose, just a joke with my friends :P I changed it, of course. But I think the highlights need blurring. 06:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I just redid it. Didnt really help. 20:38, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

There's some stuff next to the whiskers. Crystalstar999 04:10, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the little bit between the chest and the forearm Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the middle highlights 22:37, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 23:23, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights, and maybe add some highlights to the legs. 02:52, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - 23:12, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! If you want, it might look a bit better to have the middle highlight a bit more spread out :D 23:47, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I messed with it a bit. 00:48, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit Night  shine  01:12, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Brokenstar (Alt.L) - For Approval

 * [[File:Brokenstar.leader.alt.png]]First charart since I came back, not so fond of this one, might re-do it, and not so proud of the shading...comments?  Icy 123   ♥  00:11, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

He needs a broken tail, make the nose black, the ear pink should fill the whole ear, and blur the highlights a tone. 00:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink doesn't always have to fill the whole ear. It's the artist's choice. 00:26, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing, it's too gray right now. The blank was actually designed so that you fill in the whole ear, so do that. Darken the highlights. Night shine  00:49, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the highlights a bit and blur the shading. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:51, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Add a broken tail, darken the highlights and blur them.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  01:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, blur the hilights a lot, especially on the chest and haunch 21:48, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: He's...tailless. Somebody do the limp tail for me? because I liek, fail at lineart. --  Icy 123   ♥  00:00, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'll do it. 00:10, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I did it for you. I just used the line art from his other leader image and added some light shading to it. You still need to blur the shading, darken the highlights and blur them, make the nose dark gray. And just darken the whole thing Night  shine  00:14, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Thanks, Night. I made the nose a bit lighter than the pelt color but it's gray now. I blurred the shading where it was possible not to go in the lineart. I darkened the highlights and blurred them and darkened the image.  Icy 123   ♥  00:52, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see a difference from the old one Night  shine  00:56, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

It's uploaded right now.  Icy 123   ♥  00:57, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and make them more realistic looking Night  shine  01:39, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Enlargen the highlights a tad and blur them a lot. 19:50, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight, it's really blotchy 00:06, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  21:01, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten his nose

Blur shading and highlights, and darken the highlights.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:04, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add a highlight to the tail. 02:51, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Toadstep (A) - Up for Approval
For the third time, please actually give me an explanation as to why this was declined. Second time I posted it, no one said a word. It was just declined. Why? And you can't do that, without telling me! Especially since I asked. 03:19, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Again, he wasn't seen as an apprentice. Even though some other characters have images that they were never seen in (which I think shouldn't have happened) it doesn't mean the rule can be ignored again and again Night  shine  04:19, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

We have other images like that up for approval. Right now. The kit images for Barley's siblings. And if those chararts are against the rules, why haven't they been removed? 21:37, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Frostheart said that they should be put up for approval. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 21:45, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think so. If others were given one before (which is a lot), there must've been a reason. But does anyone disagree? 00:54, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

If Rainy's is staying up for sure, doesn't this one, too? I even talked to you about it, with Rainy. :P 22:27, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Rainy's is staying up, I think this one should too, this is good, the white could be whiter, but I think Frostheart should say if we need his and his sister's. Maplepool 23:01, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Mak this match his warrior image right now hes black with white patches, his warriors imgae and kit image is white with black patches Maplepool 15:22, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Actually, Maplepool, the markings work fine. On his other one, it shows his back is black, which could extend onto his other side and his chest is also black on there too, and he has a white face like I have here. I kept the white ear, left the other legs black. . . . the markings work. 16:59, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur where the black meets the white.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. I don't think the transition should be blurred more, I like it the way it is now. The white patch on the muzzle, make it smaller and add more black. Otherwise, 'tis lovely. 02:51, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

This doesn't look like the warrior and kit images. Either make the white bigger, or the black smaller in general, it looks like he's black with white, where with the others he's white with black. :/. It's bugging me. Axel; The Flurry of Dancing Flames  14:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the black areas a little bit, they seem dark compared to his other images. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Bleh, it looks worse to me now. The shading is bothering me. :P Anyways, Frostheart, where do you want me to add more black? On top of his head or around his chest? And Elorisa, I don't feel like explaining it again (I failed anyways) so go examine his other chararts to see how the markings work. :3 I assure you, they do. 20:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think it needs to have the shading defined a little more. Especially on the black. To me it looks like a blurred flat charart. I'm not trying to be mean ^^; Ivystripe 00:15, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

It looks fine to me, brighten the tail highlight a little. Looks great Mossy. :3 00:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Either darken the shading or lighten the places where there is little shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:48, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't really look THAT flat to me.. And add more black around the muzzle area. ;3 02:36, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I darkened the shading. A lot. There are three shading layers and some of them have their opacity all the way up to eighty percent. :P 02:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear pink, lighten the shading on the white areas a bit, and maybe add a few more areas with white.

Violet (K) - For Approval


Ok, Frostheart told me that she and her siblings should get a charart so I'm posting this again. :P 21:02, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Looking good! Darken the shading and blur the stripes a tad :3 21:03, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little less purple. 21:05, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 21:17, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, is it really necessary for her to get a kit image? She was hardly mentioned as being a kit. It only was only mentioned by Barley when he said one sentance about he and his littermates. I think we should discuss this a bit more before deciding Night  shine  23:10, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Even if it's one sentence, she still gets one. 23:28, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, Frostheart. But would that mean my Barley (K) can be moved back to this page and continue being up for approval ? 02:11, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

If you say so...darken the stripes a bit and saturate the ginger Night  shine  21:56, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 22:18, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Either darken or lighten the earpink so that it doesn't blend into the pelt. Doesn't matter which. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:10, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''~Rainwhisper~ 16:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

OMGEESH This looks awesome Rainy! Blur the stripes a bit.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:08, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The orange is way too bright, and her ear pink is very dark. 22:22, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I blurred the stripes a tiny bit but if I did they would become less noticeable. 23:12, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's really nice. Darken the shading just a tad. :) 15:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 16:09, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit :3 23:55, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

When I blurred it, it made the stripes fade away so I think it looks fine as it is. 01:56, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 19:57, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink color a little more noticeable. It gets lost in the color of her fur. I hope I helped a little. Ivystripe 00:16, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

'''Reuploaded. ''' 00:44, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the bottom of her right haunch --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:47, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:27, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the ginger - she's getting too. . . reddish. 02:33, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I don't think it has shown the changes yet. 19:42, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'm having some uploading issues so it might take a litle long for it to show the changes. >.> 22:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Barley (K) - For approval
Okay, as of Frosthearts comment on Violet, she said that even if its one sentence they get one. So I'm going to see if Barley's Kit version won't get Denciled this time. If it is, i got a back up plan im saving. This is the picture it was at when it was dencied.

14:52, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Darken the shading. 22:39, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded=.- Comments? :) 17:30, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Define the change between black and white areas; they look like they are bleeding into each other. Blur the earpink a bit and make it smaller --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:38, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Try to have an equal amout of black and white, and as Wildheart said, define them. 17:39, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  01:43, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done- Okay i re-did this, I had no idea how to fix the spots without ruining it. :3 23:16, March 27, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

The black and white division needs to be defined a bit more. You can just use the smudge tool and then blur it lightly if you don't want to redo the whole image =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded- i worked hard on the shading and spots :3 23:39, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

The shading needs to be a little more defined, it's hard to tell where it's at Ivystripe 00:17, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Snake (K)~ for Approval


Yeah AT LAST A CHARART, eh Ive gotten better, but he can be better, and hes not taken I took him, I LOVE him why? I don't know^^, anyway, comments? Maplepool 22:17, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the sides of his face, thin out the shading on his right (our right) side, make the highlight bigger and add a highlight to his face. Make the earpink bigger too. 22:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- fixed shading added more highlights, slimed the shading on his right(our right) ear pink enlarged....hmm its not showing the changes dont comment till I say you can. Maplepool 02:43, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

O you can comment now Maplepool 02:45, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the chest highlight, it looks like he has a pale grey chest. 20:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight. 22:34, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- fixed the chest, blured the highlightes, comments? Maplepool 23:05, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular and blur it. Lighten the shading on the inside of the right (our right) leg --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:39, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 01:48, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make it fit into the ears themselves; right now it looks like it's falling out. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There Fixed, I think..... ANWAY, comments? Maplepool 15:32, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink and blur the shading. (Mintstarr)98.22.156.110 18:03, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

AT LAST I fixed the earpink AT FREAKING LAST!!!! Maplepool 22:40, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink and blur the shading a lot --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  02:43, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

There fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 20:02, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the leg shading and enlarge the earpink some. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:30, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading under the chin Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

There, fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 20:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading under the chin, make the ear pink more noticeable. Night shine  01:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Rosepetal (A) -For Approval-
Toadstep seems to be getting one, so Rosepetal shoud as well. Not so proud of the stripes on this one. Cronstructaments? 02:16, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section. Make the earpink stand out some more. 02:18, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Take the eye colour off her warrior charart, fix the blurred lineart on its head, and make the stripes like the ones on her warrior charart. They just look like random swirls right now. 02:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, shouldn't this be declined too? Toadstep's was decbe sides, they were never seen as apperentices, so unless frostheart, or Nightshine say it can stay I think it might be declined. Maplepool 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Frostheart wants them to have images. I think it has a chance. 22:08, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, don't just go saying random things before you know the whole story. There are reasons it stayed up. :P 23:19, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more stripes on the back so it matches the warrior pixel's stripes. Lighten the tail highlight. This looks good =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:18, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  17:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripe style just looks way different from her warrior charart. Examine it for a little while to see what they look like, and copy off of it. Also, define the ear pink. 17:42, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried my best to copy the stripes. 19:25, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There is one part right before her tail tip which is lightet then the rest of her tail, darken that, other than that very nice Maplepool 22:43, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too dark, and still kind of big, and while they look more like her warrior charart's, they're not quite there. And what's cronstructaments mean? xD 01:10, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

See if you can edit the colors to match the shade of her warrior charart's. -- 01:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten/darken the earpink and maybe try blurring the stripes. 16:28, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone just redline where the stripes would be? That would help a lot DX 20:01, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:21, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest outlining the stripes in the 'smudge' tool, that would blur them a little. 21:33, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

You said you wanted a redline for the stripes? Here it is XD You had the right idea, but a couple of them were off. Basically, all you have to follow is where the stripes meet the lineart, but you can take artistic license with the rest, as we haven't seen the right side of her body yet. So go crazy =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:44, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the redline, Wildheart. I owe you one xD 21:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes' color. 22:20, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

No problem =) Maybe add some stripes to the front leg and the front of the haunch. I didn't add any to the redline because I didn't want to influence where you put them =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:51, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

On the back leg, there is an area that isn't blurred. It's the tip of the bottom stripe. Ivystripe 00:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Hazeltail (Alt. A) - For Approval
I really liked this one; 1st charart for PCA!

Moved this to the correct section. It doesn't quite look like you used the full size image as there are white pixels surrounding it. Fix that please. Otherwise, it's pretty good. 18:19, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Save the image as a png, not a jpg. 19:02, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, got it. <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  22:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the backround transparent, and get rid of all the random little pixels on the image. 22:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I did make the backround transparent. <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  19:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Redo it, but don't save it as a .jpg image save it as a .png and her tail-tip is too bright, it looks white, and blur ther earpink, and make it smaller, and make the background transparent. Maplepool 22:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED - <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  20:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the highlights, as they look quite blotchy. Darken the ear pink and rename this Hazeltail.apprentice.alt.png. 19:31, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Very stunning^^, and tis is yourfirst charart for PCA? darken her tail tip and her muzzle, blur the earpink a bit more add shading to her ear that is farthest from us. Very nice, its better then mine, im jealous.... :/ Maplepool 20:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fill in the pixels on the stomach, and make the ear pink smaller. And was she described as mottled, or just gray? because this looks mottled. 20:50, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading, not smudge them.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the bits of gray outside of the lineart. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:03, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Willowshine (Alt. K) - For Approval
She was described as dark grey in Dawn. Comments? -- 20:34, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Just blur the neck shading a wee bit. 21:24, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- 21:50, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. Maplepool 02:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the right (our right) of her. 16:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- 16:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it, it looks black instead of dark gray.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shade is fine. Darken the nose colour, it is too similar to the pelt. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm not sure how noticeable it is, but the value used to be 25; now it's 15. -- 20:56, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Still needs to be lightened some. Looking better, though =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:02, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nightshine said she thought the fur shade was fine. -- 02:00, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Nightshine isn't the whole world, Goldenpelt. xD I agree that is still needs to be lightened a little bit. Blurthe shading, and add shading to her back paw. 02:47, March 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree it has to be lightened. Darken the ear pinkand the shading a bit. 20:34, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, but the changes aren't showing up. -- 21:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt. W) - For Approval
She was described as a black-and-silver cat in Forest of Secrets on page 15. Comments? 23:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the black on the tail, make the ear-pink a tad smaller and brighten it, darken the shading on the white parts, and brighten the highlights. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:07, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:00, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white areas silver. Smudge the black transition. Add eye colour, blur the ear pink and blur the shading Night  shine  00:03, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:32, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! I like the markings! The silver still looks white, so darken it a lot, and darken the shading as well. Move the ear pink up a bit. 00:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the black near the shoulder area. 01:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Silverstream.warrior.alt.png 02:47, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How do I rename it? And I'll thicken the black later when I have time. 03:44, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rainwillow: Whatever you are using to edit your image, save it, left click, there will be a list of suggestions, rename it Silverstream.warrior.alt, and upload it as a different image and replace the current image with the different one.  Icy 123   ♥  14:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the shading. 16:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the white some more; it still looks white, and not silver. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more centered and blur it. Smudge the black transition. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it still look white? Could somebody help me with the black and the shading? However much I blur the shading, it still looks the same. 11:07, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not to dark, it looks like gray. I would try along the side between white and gray. So its not gray, but its like a light gray, 13:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I can help blur the shading. I'll do it right now, and I can lighten the silver parts like Feathermoon said too. =3 21:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mossy! 10:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Graypool (W) - Declined
Here she is. Not awfully proud of this one...but whatever. Comments? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the chest and blur it. The shading on the tail also looks a bit blotchy. Otherwise, nice job. 01:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading along the haunch, separate the shoulder highlight from the tail highlight, and add shading to the top of the head. Looks very nice, otherwise. :) 01:31, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded What did you mean by "separate the shoulder highlight from the tail highlight", Mossy? (Also, why do we call you Mosspool and not Dovesong??) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart, she likes to be called Mosspool incase Dovepaw's warrior name is Dovesong, lighten the earpink a tad. Maplepool 02:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, no. XD She just dislikes the name Dovesong now. Make the ear-pink a bit smaller, and you still need to blur the shading some. 02:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I hate plain coloured cats. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the ear pink. 04:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink colour is from Graypool's elder image. I don't think it should be changed much. XD 04:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Desaturated a bit. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:48, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, Wildheart, I mean that they should be two separate highlights, not attached like you currently have them. :3 And I hate solid coloured cats, too. . they're impossible. Blur the neck shading a bit. 06:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Am I missing something? I don't remember Graypool being mentioned as a warrior anywhere, but nobody has objected to this, so am I just completely forgetting something? XD Anyways, looks great, maybe thicken the shading on the right (our right of coruse, not her's) side of the tail? It looks kinda odd, almost like a gradient on the tail. Sorry, I'm horrible at explaining things. :P ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:41, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the sshading a bit.  Icy 123   ♥  14:31, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink a bit or make it a little more of a reddish color. 16:23, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on the tail a tad; or lighten the shading. 22:03, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Well, Willowbreeze is getting one, so she should too. And Mossy; the highlights are on completely separate parts of the body. How do I change them so that they're "not attached"?? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:11, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

It's hard to explain what I mean. . . but instead of having a shoulder highlight and a leg highlight, you have a shoulder highlight that extends onto the leg. And yeah, she gets one becaise she was seen being made a warrior and Fallowtail named them, right? 23:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

OH! You said shoulder highlight and TAIL highlight. I was confused. And it's fine; it looks wierd if I do it any other way. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:01, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure we never saw her as a warrior. Can you tell me when she was mentioned as one? Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nightshine, wasn't she seen/mentioned as a warrior in Battles Of The Clans? Or at least, in her history, it says that Fallowtail gaves them their names because of this and that, lalala. . . so I'm pretty sure she was at least mentioned as one. Darken the highlights. 21:02, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yep. What Mossy said. lol... --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:59, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps my eyes are playing tricks on me, but the ear pink seems a little. . . purpley. :P And the tail looks like a gradient. 23:24, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed the earpink (I thought it was rather pink, actually) and how do you propose I fix this "gradient-ness"? XD --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

But I'm pretty sure she was never seen as a warrior in any of the books. Sorry. Night shine  00:15, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well I don't have the book with me, but from what I remember, that means Willowbreeze won't get a warrior image either. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:22, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

But. . . but. . . she was mentioned as a warrior, wasn't she? She gets a charart, then. 02:16, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

No she wasn't the ONLY reason Willowbreeze is GETTING Chararts, is becuase she was told to be gray, and YES, Graypool, WAS seen as a warrior, Forest of secrets, she was seen as a queen/warrior, so she SHOULD get a charart then, right? Maplepool 20:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

No, Maplepool, the fact that she was revealed to be gray doesn't have anything to do with it - but there's still a reason, doesn't matter if there's one or two. 22:04, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Aliright, since Graypool nor Willowbreeze were seen as warriors this will be declined. Sorry. Night shine  01:05, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Mousewhisker (Alt. A) - For Approval
lol, all my approved chararts are some shade of black or gray :P 07:16, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Great job, Nightflower! Darken the shading a bit and define the ear pink. Other than that, it's great.  Icy 123   ♥  14:30, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good! The highlights look great, but yes, you should darken the shading. <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  19:40, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic! Make the ear pink more noticable. 19:56, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I actually really like this one :3 20:41, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a tad more. Great job nighty! ;) 21:56, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  21:57, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading or brighten the highlights. 23:55, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Think I need to blur the shading some. 23:59, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks pretty good to me =) Lighten the earpink some. --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:00, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Make the ear pink a little redder. 22:24, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think that the shading looks like a gradient. It doesn't look like there is shading on the tail at all. Define the light and dark areas a little. Ivystripe 00:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Reuploaded - I think the shading is fine. It's supposed to be blended well, after all.

Darken the shading and brighten the highlights. Make the ear pink more triangular. 03:43, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I think I ruined it >.< 04:59, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I think that looks a little better. I like it!Ivystripe 19:56, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe Nice job. Darken the tail shading a bit more and I believe this will be ready. 20:32, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  22:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the neck and tail shading Night  shine  00:59, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

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Might be inactive
For the next two-ish weeks I'll be pretty busy. So I might not be able to get on very much. Just a heads up.-- Darkhallows... Mew? 21:51, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

See you soon Darkhallows! 02:12, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Oakheart's Alternate Warrior
Hey there guys. I was looking through the declined images, and I noticed that Oakheart's was withdrawn. Now, it's on the table, but I don't see it up here, as in I don't think anyone's working on it. Do any of you mind if I take a crack at it? It seems like a challenge, and that's exactly what I need. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 17:18, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Did you read why it was withdrawn? Somebody said that there is no need for an alt because tawny and oakhearts color are alike and it wouldnt be worth the trouble for a minor mistake or something like that I think. right? 21:04, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I always thought that tawny was more orange and Oakheart's color was more brown. Huh. Maybe I'm mistaken. Someone prove me wrong, please. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 22:04, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart is a red-brown color which is almost ginger, and tawny is like what Pinestar's alternate is. 22:14, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

If you compare Pinestar's alternate leader image, with what is up on Oakheart's page now, there is a very visible difference, in my opinion. I'd personally like to try this, but, I don't know if I'm allowed, since someone has it reserved on the table. (But I'm not sure if it's really being done)<span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 22:22, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Pinestar is red brown and got an alt for being mentioned as tawny. Oakheart is red brown and was mentioned as tawny. Same thing, no? 23:21, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that it should get an alternate =) 23:27, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I definitely think that red-brown and tawny are too similar, so Pinestar shouldn't get an alternate, especially if Oakheart doesn't get one. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agre with Wildheart. If you looked at the little color-swatches we posted in Oakheart's alt section, you can see how similar tawny is to red-brown. 02:29, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say so. . . tawny is light brown, doesn't seem to close to reddish brown, but, if everyone else thinks so, then shouldn't we decline Pinestar? 00:55, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Webster's Dictionary's site defines tawny as "a warm sandy color" and lists the synonyms "fair, flaxen, golden, sandy, straw, blond"; nothing about being reddish, so I agree that he should have one. -- 01:15, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that tawny is a very flexible colour. It can be anything from a darker reddish brown to a pale golden-brown. So I don't believe either of them should get an alternate. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:14, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

What? No, tawny is light brown and light brown only. 00:05, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not really. If you look it up in different dictionaries, you can come up with anything from dark reddish-brown to pale golden-brown, as I stated above. So, no, they don't really need alternates. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:08, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I know this seems delayed, but I agree with Goldenpaw (erm...Goldenpelt?). Webster is a very reliable sorce. However, I'll ask one of the leads and see what they say about it. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 12:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I agree with Cloudskye, plus, can you show me some dictionaries that had different defintions for tawny? I went on like five different ones, and they all said what Goldenpaw said. 22:36, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that he should get an alternate, and most dictionaries do say that, or that it means tan or yellow-brown. 22:39, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Snake-Kit Version
Did anyone reserve Snake's kit image? If not, can I do it? 10:34, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think I used to, then removed it because I wasn't sure. But I think that currently, no one has it reserved. 21:45, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Maplepool just reserved it. :P If you want to reserve something you don't need to ask, just go and make sure no one has it on the chart and reserve it for yourself. 22:04, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

approved?
In the seccond last accepted file, I had stripes alt. rogue approved. I added to his trivia that he has been mentioned as black a couple times, but my approved charart has not yet been posted. it was posted around mabye a week\two weeks ago? 17:39, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Reference? 23:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

It isn't there because you didn't name it correctly, so the template doesn't work. I'll reupload it and name it correctly. 02:57, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah and there's no source on that. Can someone add one? 03:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Switch
Hey, it's Mistflower, but I switched accounts. So, can you remove me from the members list and add me on this account? Thanks, Ferndapple 23:38, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I changed it for you. 15:55, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfur and Thornclaw=Ginger?
I've seen a Brackenfur alt be decline because Brackenfur is ginger, yet golden brown tabby and ginger are different from each other, both genetically and appearance-wise. I'll use color to illustrate:
 * <font color="#C89560">This is taken from a photo of a golden brown tabby. 
 * <font color="#F1A456">This is taken from a photo of a ginger cat. 

The golden brown is, well, brown, while the ginger is definitely orange. -- 00:25, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

But the two colours are similar enough that an alt isnt nesseccary. 00:28, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

And yet Ivypaw gets one for being described with with a silver pelt when she's a silver tabby... :/ -- 01:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, she's a silver and white tabby, so she gets one. If she had been an all silver tabby, she probably wouldn't get an alt. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:41, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

But golden brown and ginger are the same colour. . . google 'golden brown cat', see what you get. And the Erin's obviously think so too, considering how frequently he's described as ginger. . . I mean, once, maybe would be a mistake, but this is no mistake. 02:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

They aren't the same. Half the results you get are just ginger as. These are golden brown. But whatever, I'm not going to argue. :/ -- 02:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Those are brown tabbies. Not golden brown. Well, okay, then. I guess this ends now. 03:00, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Side note: the World Cat Federation defines a golden brown tabby as warm golden brown to apricot with black markings. -- 03:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Warriors: Not the World Cat Federation. Never said a thing about black markings anyways. 03:45, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Warriors Wiki: encyclopedia. It should be as accurate as possible. :/ The black markings were mentioned to emphasize the fact that golden brown is not ginger. -- 03:50, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

But the black markings change everything. He doesn't have black markings. Therefore, he can't be that colour. Okay, acuracy has nothing to do with realism. They have brown and ginger patches cats, gray cats with white patches. . . I don't think they cared much about realism. 05:19, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't change the fact that he's a golden brown tabby and not ginger. The colors are nothing alike. -- 05:37, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

One of the leads should archive this. I'm tired of debating. :/ -- 05:55, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Goldenpelt, are you saying that you don't think they need the alternates anymore, or you just don't want to debate about it anymore? :P 15:54, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * It looks like it's just the latter. I think he still stands by his opinion. 20:31, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sandstorm alternate pic?
although i am not an apprentice yet..... Frostheart -_- jk.... i saw that sandstorm was mistakenly called oarnge on her page. so i was wandering if i could take a crack at it?Dinostar 19:45, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Orange and ginger are to similar to need an alt. Sorry. 19:49, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ginger is like almost red like firestar while oarnge is lighter and more yellowish then redish Dinostar 23:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

No, ginger is exactly the same as orange. Orange is basically just another word for ginger. Really, that's like saying that because the cat's eyes were described as ocean coloured instead of sky coloured (let's say eye colour is enough for an alternate in this situation), it gets an alternate. And even if they were different, they'd still be too similar. Why do you think Brackenfur doesn't get a ginger alternate? 00:59, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I was the one who slapped it on there, but my charart was declined. :( ❁   YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 11:13, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Snake and Ice
Has anyone reserved their alt loner pics? If so, can I draw them? 00:19, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

It hasn't been decided whether or not there will be manga alternates. -- 00:20, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

If you choose to do it, may I please make one? 00:22, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, it's a first-come, first-serve kind of thing. You'll just have to keep an eye on the conversation and reserve it if they decide yes. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:24, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. 00:25, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sol?
Can I reserve Sol's Warrior charart? He becomes one in Beyond The Code. Crystalstar999 04:14, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not until the book comes out. Sorry. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:47, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Icestorm - Senior Warrior?
Icestorm was a senior warrior before she left for a bit, and it struck me that she was added back in as a warrior, and I'm wondering, why? xD She was a senior warrior, and she just took a litrle break, I don't see why her rank was taken away. :P 21:30, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree; she should return as a senior warrior :D 22:22, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree as well. She wasn't gone for that long and everyone deserves a break if they need one. Besides, she earned that rank and I don't think she should need to earn it back just because she left for a little while. 22:26, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the others. She was a senior warrior before hand, why should it be taken away if she wasn't gone for that long? 22:27, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, she was gone for less than a month ;) 22:33, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you guys, but we'll have to wait for Frostheart to decide Night  shine  23:46, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Heyas. XD Yeah, I agree. I don't know who added her back as just a warrior. But she deserves it, and she told me she wants it back. I'm going to change the table back now. 01:24, March 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey :) Thanks y'all for commenting on this, and espically to Mossy and Frosty. Thanks! 20:28, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestar
Bluestar has been described in different books as silver and dark gray. Since they are both relatively close to blue-gray, should she get alternates for them? 22:47, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think she should at least get one alt. Ferncloud got one for being dark grey, and it's basically the same thing. 22:57, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think she should get a dark gray alt. Her and Mistystar are both dark blue gray, and they were both described as dark gray when they were first born. It doesn't seem like a mistake to me. :P I guess she would get one for silver though. 23:32, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, she should get one for silver, but not for dark gray. Night shine  23:58, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, can I reserve it now, then, or do I have to wait until my current one is approved? 21:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

You have to wait until your current one is approved. And theses are a first come first serve deal, so if someone else reserves it before yours is approved then you're out of luck. Sorry. 22:45, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Aww..that sucks. I'll just have to hope no one claims it first then XD 22:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

May I join?
I'd like to become an apprentice for charart. I just want to help out nd contribute to all areas. I use GIMP for all of my pictures. Ivystripe 01:32, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe


 * Of course, Ivystripe! Just wait until one of the leads add you in. 20:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ceremonies
If a cat is mentioned as the wrong color during a ceremony, for example, a warrior ceremony, should they get a warrior alt. or an apprentice alt. ? 23:21, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I think that if the leader has already given them their warrior name, they get a warrior charart. However, if the leader hasn't yet, they get an apprentice charart. 23:40, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Okay... 23:45, March 29, 2011 (UTC)