Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

Nine lives box?
I just had this idea. Since the information for nine lives is at the bottom, how about we move it up so people will see it more often? It could become part of the character boxes for leaders, if that's possible. I don't know anything about box coding so I could be speaking nonsense. XD Still, I think it'll be a great idea.

That's honestly not necessary. If people want to look for it, they can look for it, it's there it's on their page. It's not like it's invisible. Even though it is hard to spot, no one will over look it if they're specifically looking for that 21:42, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's good enough where it is. 04:20, December 8, 2015 (UTC)

I actually disagree, and I think it's a very good idea to try and implement. If the nine lives are so important to the Warriors series (it's what defines a leader, and cats don't always accept their leader without nine lives), then it probably shouldn't just be tossed down on the bottom of the page like that. If possible, we can always add it in a drop-down or something like that on the character template. Seriously, it's a vital part of a leader's time in their Clan, and should be treated with a bit more importance.

I agree that it's fine already and there's no need to change it. 03:12, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I think Jayce has a point here. Way back when I was just an Anon browsing pages, ( nearly four years ago now...geez ) I had no idea the Nine Lives box was there until I discovered it totally by accident at the bottom. A dropdown box bellow...I don't know, maybe book mentions? On leader's charcats with an overview of their nine lives isn't a bad idea, and it wouldn't be too hard to add in. It is a vital part of their time as a leader, so it should be a little more noticeable on the page. 14:54 Tue Dec 22

Exactly, Berry. It doesn't have to be a dropdown, but.. it should be somewhere else on the page. It's hardly considered important if it's just thrown down on the bottom of the page.

Hmm, maybe there is a point. It seemed to be originally belong to the ceremony section but it's drifted to quotes. I think the box could have like it's own tab that says "Nine Lives" at least. It's too hidden. 00:20, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

Yes but it would make a lot of clutter on the charcat template and honestly, if users are looking for that and can't bother to control f / search down until they find it that's their own problem. 19:00, January 4, 2016 (UTC)

Well, that's kinda rude, Icy. It doesn't matter if it seems like it's "cluttered". It's a vital part of a leader's article, and if the nine lives thing wasn't important, then it wouldn't exist or be featured and taken into account as much as it is. Hell, leaders aren't considered leaders most of the time unless they have those lines. So, why should it just be tossed onto the bottom of the page?

No, it's not rude. We can't put everything on the front of the page just so it's easier for people to read. As I said it will be cluttered and we can't put it on the template - it just makes the page look really stuffy. I'm sorry but I do not see the need to put it anywhere else. There's no place to put it. 03:03, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

If not in the charcat template, why not do it as a subsection of trivia, or even its own section in or around that location? 05:07, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe leave it where it is, but put a heading above it so it's seen on the contents page, maybe even as a subsection of the ceremonies or something. 00:26, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't belong in the character boxes. I just don't see where it would go. However, I had another idea. In the Ceremonies section, there could be sub-sections including the warriors, apprentices, medicine cats ceremonies, etc. That way people will be able to know where things are on the Contents list.

I agree with this. It doesn't need to be moved, just a header so if people actually want to see it, they'll find it easily. 23:03, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Header sounds good. Any other comments? 01:18, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Minor Characters (again)
So! Finally, I was able to get the template over to this wiki. If you've forgotten, this is what we had planned for the minor characters page. So, before we make the page, is there any last minute things I should fix up? Or should we just go right ahead and make it? 15:50 Thu Dec 31

Great job Berry! :) I just want discuss who exactly we are putting there. Characters we wouldn't give a page? Like that gray she-cat in the prologue of SkyClan's Destiny? Are we giving a section for all unnamed characters like Dappletail's Kit and The Old She-cat (ROS)? 21:47, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

From my understanding it was always going to just be characters way, way too minor for their own page; I suppose those characters would count, but they have their own pages now, and history sections that are longer than a couple of sentences...so, yes, just characters like that grey she-cat. 01:49 Fri Jan 1

Dappletail's Kit and the old she-cat from The Rise of Scourge are fine as they are, since they've already gotten articles, cites, chararts, ect, whatever have you. It would be counterproductive to get rid of those articles after the amount of work that's gone into the pages. The gray-she cat in the prologue of SkyClan's Destiny is a good example of a character that would go on this page, though.

Anymore concerns on the matter, or shall we get to making the page? I believe Burnt made a list of some minor characters that would fit on this page before she left, so we could use that for reference. 17:36 Thu Jan 14

Let's go straight to making the page. 22:57, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Can we make the coding simplified for the minor characters page? I know it's done for our charcat and charother template, can we do this before making the page? 23:16, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean by simplified...? It's a template...we won't just be coping the coding onto the page and filling everything out. You fill in the variables like any other template. Do you mean like the blank forms on the template pages? I can easily put one of those on the template page if you'd like? 18:51 Fri Jan 22

Like the charcat template, just so it's easier on the minor characters page. I also have an idea to cover categories for each character. I think using redirect pages for every character and putting their categories, (minor character, rogue, etc) there. 22:07, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea what you're asking me to do; I'm sorry, coudl you elaborate a little further...? I can't...really do much to change it to "make it easier"... 15:10 Thu Jan 28

Alright I'll try to explain it better. Look at the coding of the charcat template at any character page, you have |image = character.blah.png, |affie = ThunderClan, |pastaffie = Loner, etc and that. When we look at the source template's coding, it's much more confusing but some clever user has made it easier to write on on a character page, via |pastaffie = etc and that. That's what I want to happen with this template too. Do you understand what I mean? 01:24, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

I believe Berry's already done that, Stealth. It's just a matter of migrating the final template if she hasn't done it already. It'll work just like the normal character template, and we'll be able to fill it in using the variables shown in the coding.

Burr
Burr is a character who came from the Warriors Adventure Game. Seeing as he is non-canon, is there a non-canon character category I can add in and remove the characters catergory? Or should he still be considered a character and have a non-canon character category in at the same time?

There isn't a category for it. I think Burr should stay a character, but I think a special tab that states this character is non-canon due to only appearing in (yada yada). I could be used for future non-canon characters too. 22:39, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

We could just use the non-canon template we have for Adventure Game pages, tbh. It says "This article is about a non-canon aspect of the Warriors world.", not specifying whether it's about a book or game or whatever. 17:34 Thu Jan 14

That's not a bad idea. I agree with this. 04:53, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

Dusk Nose ~ Silver Nomination
Adorable name. 00:26, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

I'm almost positive that Dusk Nose was mentioned (though unnamed, if I remember correct) when Spider Paw was drowning; she remembered how she had to get water out of Dusk Nose's chest.

Also, Could you combine "... Pebble Heart reassures they always have someone following them. Mouse Ear followed them once..." into one sentence somehow? Also, could you combine the part, "Pebble Heart explains... every kit gets stun eventually. Mouse Ear shouldn’t have followed the kits..."? Pebble Heart is the one saying that Mouse Ear followed the kits, but it could be a little bit confusing when it just says, "Mouse Ear followed them once..." as it doesn't state that Pebble Heart is recalling the story, but that it is actually happening.

22:18 Fri Jan 22

Updated Thanks for splitting up the paragraph Snowed! 22:12, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

CBV? 22:46, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Vote's up. 01:30, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Tiny Branch ~ Silver Nomination
Poor kit. Comments? 04:53, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

There's at least one redlink that I can see in his article. Also, I think the main quote would make sense without the "Let [Moth Flight] pass." part, but it's your choice whether or not to remove it.

Updated 05:08, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

CBV? 01:17, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Vote's up. 01:31, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Cloudpaw (RF) - Silver Nomination
She is extremely sassy and now one of my favorite side characters just because of her line about making like a tree. She doesn't appear anymore aside from the confrontation with Ravenpaw, so I can't expand it.

CBV? 22:46, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Vote's up. 01:31, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Hawkpaw (SC) - Silver Nomination
Another apprentice. His main quote is about the only thing that makes sense, and given that we can't use two speakers in a main quote, this is about the best there is.

CBV? 22:46, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Duskpaw - Silver Nomination
Time to get the minor apprentices out of the way...then tackle the larger articles. Don't ask for a main quote, or any quotes at all, because the only time he appears is when he's being assigned to a group, which isn't even vital or important in the least.

CBV? 22:46, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Cow (MFV) ~ Silver Nomination
Moo. I'll do Mouse next. Comments? 03:07 Thu Jan 28

CBV? 01:17, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

Join Request
Hello! I was wondering if I could join the project? It seems like a lot of fun and now that I'm on the wiki more I'd like to be involved in a project! 23:12, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

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