Talk:Mistakes in the Warriors Series

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Concerns

 * Night Whispers needs to be expanded; there's definitely more mistakes than that.
 * the suppose to be mistake for "The Last Hope" {Riverclan is called Shadowclan when  Jayfeather is going to visit.} is actually supposed to be like that. "Shadowclan Doesn't make decisions for starclan." Referring to how shadowclan had said he couldn't be a medicine cat. EXTRA SUPPORT " "You're not a medicine cat anymore." Beetlewhisker's fishy breath grazed Jayfeather's cheek.Jayfeather stifled a shiver. He'd heard Beetlewhisker training in the Dark Forest. "Shadowclan doesn't make decisions for Starclan." he hissed."Only Starclan can deny my power to heal."  "      108.90.108.200 03:48, March 30, 2013 (UTC)Snowstar7687  

This doesn't make sense...
Lionblaze says "It happened before we were born" when talking to Cinderheart about Hollyleaf killing Ashfur. Page 191

When I read this in the book, it seemed more like he meant the thing between Squirrelflight, Ashfur, and Brambleclaw...like in Twilight/Sunset. Cinderblaze12 04:52, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Review of Mistakes - Into the Wild
Since I don't agree that a number of things are real mistakes, I'm going to bring them up for discussion one by one here, and see what comes of it. I'm going to start with Into the Wild and go from there.

Lionheart is called Graypaw's apprentice.
 * I pulled this one already, because it wasn't cited. If someone couldn't bother to reference it properly, it shouldn't be on the list. If you find the reference, feel free to put it back in.

The Thunderpath is mistakenly called a road.
 * In my opinion this is arguably not an error. It's in the narration, and not associated with the thoughts of any character. Given that this is the first book, and readers are not yet to the point where the clan cat vernacular is second nature, couldn't this actually be intentional on the part of the writer?

Firepaw is called Rusty after receiving his apprentice name.
 * Why is this an error? The story has only just transitioned his name to Firepaw. Why shouldn't there be a bit of overlap in the two names to accustom the reader to the change? How is this verified as an error, and not something intentionally done by the author to ensure that everyone follows the name change smoothly?

'''Graypaw mentions that leaders only ever take the kits of deputies as apprentices. However, no leader before or after this point has been shown with a deputy's kit as an apprentice, and none of Bluestar's apprentices were the kits of her deputies.'''
 * How do we know this isn't Graypaw being mistaken, rather than the authors?

Tigerclaw is mentioned to have a "VEE" shape nick in his ear when it should have been "V".
 * Another uncited one. Cite it and you can put it back in.

14:28, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Good points, but I think we should leave in what Graypaw said. He'd been born and raised in the Clan, wouldn't he know that what he said had no credence to it? No leader in the series has had a deputy's kit as an apprentice as far as I remember. Fact of the matter is, it seems leaders don't usually take apprentices at all. 21:29, December 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * But couldn't Graypaw's comment be rooted in insecurity? Making excuses for why Bluestar, who didn't have an apprentice, passed on training him? People say things that are wrong about the society they grew up in all the time. Couldn't it be like a kid claiming that "the teacher hates me" as an excuse for their own bad grades rather than considering it might be an issue of performance? We also have to consider another fact: How many deputies have had kits since the books started? I can't personally think of any in the "core" clans. Frostfur and Runningwind, at least, where prior to Bluestar becoming leader. And we simply don't have the information we need to prove this as an error that comes from the authors, rather than an error (or an excuse for being passed on) made by Graypaw. 21:35, December 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you're over thinking it. The other books weren't even out yet, so they probably weren't sure when they wrote Into The Wild.
 * I think you're over thinking it. The other books weren't even out yet, so they probably weren't sure when they wrote Into The Wild.


 * There's no evidence that Graypaw was correct when he said that, though.Neonstar (talk) 18:19, April 20, 2014 (UTC)Neonstar

Bluestar calls Rusty by his name when she doesn't even know his name!

In the allegiences it says Rusty is a ThunderClan apprentice yet in the beginning of the book Rusty was a kittypet.

The Cats of the Clans
Tawnypelt is suppose to be tortoiseshell and white

and Hollyleaf's eyes are blue

No, Tawnypelt is totishell and Hollyleaf has green eyes.

Hollyleaf has green eyes and Tawnypelt is tortiseshell. aThe person who draws the warriors cats can make a lot of mistakes. Like when he put white markings on Scourge and when he made Bone brown and black.

Dark River
On page 130 of Dark River, it says,

"She careered into Mousepaw, sending him tumbling down onto the pebbly shore." While it should have said "She careened into Mousepaw, sending him tumbling down onto the pebbly shore." Emberstarfireclan

I believe that either careened or careered could be used. So in my opinion, I don't think this should be listed in the article.Kittykat4646 10:03, June 22, 2012 (UTC)Kittykat4646

Mosskit
I found the pages in Secrets of the Clans Mosskit is called a tom. pgs. 77 and 78. - Frogpath

Incorrect Grammer in The Darkest Hour
Near the bottom of page 237, shortly after Tigerstar's death, it says, "'I can't believe what I've just seen' the WindClan leader. 'Nine lives gone--just like that.'" It should say "...the WindClan leader said," or "meowed" or "rasped." should I add that? 16:29, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

The last hope...Mosskit?
==Mosskit is first called a she-cat, then over and over called a tom. In secrets of the clans, it says Mosskit was a tom, but in Blustar's Prophecy, reported multiple times as a she-cat. Anyone confused?==

Yup. But I think Mosskit is a she-cat... 96.237.228.128 00:00, April 13, 2012 (UTC)FIRESTARLOVERFOREVER

Mosskit is a she-kit!!!!

Kestrelflight
In Sign of the Moon Kestrelflight was called Kestrelwing. It was on page 182. I don't really know how to add the citation so can someone do it? Thanks :) 76.200.112.161 18:52, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Sharptooth
The series takes place in England, but Sharptooth, a mountain lion, appears in Moonrise. Mountain lions are solely Western Hemisphere creatures. May I add this? 16:52, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the Erins just mentioned that the olf forest was based on a forest in England, but when they moved to the lake they didn't base it off of anywhere specific, so it could of been anywhere 17:02, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that's a mistake. Did you ever think of the fact they might not have known that when they created Sharpclaw? Anyways, Duck's right. The forest was //based// off of a Forest in England, nothing more.

The forest was based on a place in England. It doesn't mean it was in England. The forest could be set in the Western Hemisphere. --Kittykat4646 00:41, June 27, 2012 (UTC)Kittykat4646

From what I know, Erin Hunter had said herself that she BASED the forest off one in England. Honestly, I think every author should have the right to tweak little things having to do with... well... anything if they are writing a fantasy novel like this one. (Random editor w/o account)

The Erin Hunters had the series take place in an imaginary place because 1. In an Erin Hunter chat they confirmed it was ment to be a place in England but they changed it. 2. When does it snow near an ocean!?

But what if Sharptooth was an escaped circus animal?!~Rainripple

A error in BP
I don't think, when snowfur said "They have another think coming!" it was a typo, see 'They have a/had/ or will have another think coming is a term used back in WW2, it means like, they have to rethink something. It might be what the Erins were using. Maple♥ legs  Mischief brewing 00:49, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

As far as we know, it was an error. It depends upon the context of when it was said.. I'll take a peak later and see if that might be what it was.

Green eyed Graystripe?
I was reading the Forgotten Warrior today and I can't find the page, but I think it says that Graystripe has green eyes when Sol arrives. I may have been confusing it with when it said "Firestar shouldered his way forward and halted in front of Sol, looking him up and down with suspicion in his green eyes". Kittykat4646 00:38, June 27, 2012 (UTC)Kittykat4646

If you can cite it, and your sure it's Graystripe, add it in. Skt Spoilers... 00:40, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

That sounds like Firestar... 00:41, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

I think it was probably Firestar's green eyes...--Kittykat4646 00:44, June 27, 2012 (UTC)Kittykat4646

Yup, those are Firestar's eyes. --70.181.243.196 00:47, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Those are Firestar's eyes, but everyone makes mistakes!

Meet the cats (Original series)
In the "Meet the Cats-original series" section, I think the last sentence in that section needs to be edited. Going onto Crowfeather's page would have nothing to do with seeing Brambleclaw's eyes. This is in my opinion, I have not seen this "site" to meet the cats, but I believe that the part about Crowfeather's page is irrelevant. Kittykat4646 00:49, June 27, 2012 (UTC)Kittykat4646

Are you sure you've read the title of the article? The page is about mistakes in the warriors series and other official media. This thing is a mistake, and therefore is to be on the page. 06:43 Mon Oct 15

Battles of the Clans, Bumblepaw speaks
In Battles of the Clans, Bumblepaw speaks, there is a picture of Bumblepaw. He has a white muzzle, when really he doesn't have a white muzzle at all. Can someone put this in for me because I can't get the cite to work properly. Kittykat4646 03:24, July 12, 2012 (UTC)Kittykat4646

We have no proof that the cat shown in that picture is Bumblepaw.

RaggedSTAR
On page 374 of Yellowfang's Secret he's called raggedstar but he isn't leader yet. I don't know how to put a source on the edits.

Enter the Clans
I noticed this error on page 205 of Enter the Clans: It's "Her (White-eye) pelt was slicked to her sides and her ears looked huge against her wet head, but  his eyes  shone..." White-eye is a she-cat and in this story (Hunting Fish!) she's mentioned to have her cloudy eye already clawed out by a badger. Can someone add? (BTW, why isn't there a section for Enter the Clans?) 220.255.2.154 00:23, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

There isn't a section for Enter The Clans because it is Secrets of the Clans and Code of the Clans printed together. The same mistake is in Code of the Clans, Page 27. It isn't on there though so great catch! 01:29, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Darkest Hour Tigerstar Error?
In the Darkest Hour, it called Tigerstar TigerStar on page 197, near the bottom. Is this an error?

User without an account.

Already on the page. 00:37, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Fading Echoes Error: Wrong Cat?
Near the top of page 231 in Fading Echoes, it says "His gaze flicked to Hawkfrost" when it should say "His gaze flicked to Jayfeather" since Hawkfrost wasn't in that scene. Could this be edited in or did I miss it on the page?

Anonymous User.

Fire and Ice Mistake
On page 108 of Fire and Ice, when Fireheart's showing Cinderpaw ShadowClan scent, she talks about the stolen kits as if she wasn't one of them. However, she was. Should this be added? Dovewing66 (talk) 07:55, January 4, 2013 (UTC)Dovewing66

No she wasn't. The kits that were stolen were Brightheart and Thornclaw. 15:49, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

In Into the Wild, it is heavily implied (though I can't find a citation specifically stating) that all four kits were taken, and on page 263 of Into the Wild, when the kits are pulled out of their ShadowClan prison, Firepaw notes that "the last one was gray, like the embers of an old fire". Not only are neither Brightheart nor Thornclaw gray, but Cinderpelt was the only gray cat in her litter.

Queeniekitten (talk) 07:22, July 20, 2013 (UTC)Dawnclaw

This article has a mistake, too ;-)
Gallery Warrior's Refuge should be linked as Warrior's Refuge/Gallery. :-P  Maple wing  23:50, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Aaaand same for Gallery Outcast, as Outcast/Gallery.  Maple wing  23:52, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yellowfang's Secret: StarClan Mispelling?
In Yellowfang's Secret, on page 465 StarClan is pronounced Starclan. Add to mistakes for YS?

Crookedstar's promise
In the book it's mentioned that Graypool's kits have died, but in "Forest of Secrets" she is seen suckling a kit when Oakheart brings mistykit and stonekit.

Warriors: The Lost Warrior
In the Manga it is seen that Graystripe is trapped in the van while opening Brightheart's cage. That wasn't what happened in the book. Brightheart's cage was still in the cabin. Graystripe opened it, releasing Brightheart, but he got caught by a human and then was taken into the van.

BP and YS contradiction
Bluestar's Prophecy

At Yellowfang's first Gathering, Yellowfang is seen cheering loudly for Raggedpelt when he is announced as ShadowClan's new deputy.

At another Gathering many moons later, Yellowfang is announced as Sagewhisker's new apprentice, beginning her training as a medicine cat.

Yellowfang's Secret

At Yellowfang's first Gathering, Raggedpelt is announced as ShadowClan's new deputy and Yellowfang as ShadowClan's new medicine cat.

Yellowfang's secret
Raggedpelt is still deputy when Yellowfang brings brokenkit to Lizardstripe (page 214 YS), but in Secrets of the Clans Raddedpelt was already leader, making him Raggedstar (page 70 SotC).

Hollyflower tells Yellowfang that Poolcloud's joints are aching (page 279 YS), but Yellowfang tells Runningsnose that she has te help Littlebird (page 280 YS).

Brambleclaw on Warriors website
I've looked over the mistakes on the website and read that "If you're on another page and click on Brambleclaw, it doesn't do anything." However, I've just tried this and it worked. Though I've seen a mistake. If you click on Brambleclaw's profile on the New Prophecy series, it shows up as "Bramblepaw."

Celestiality13 (talk) 00:51, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

in outcast stormfur is disvribed with blue eyes but on the cover he has amber ones

On the Warriors website, "Thornpaw" is mistakenly shown as "Thorrpaw." --Pearlsky (talk) 00:17, October 8, 2013 (UTC)Pearlsky

Ultimate Guide: Hollyleaf
In the Ultimate Guide, it says that Hollyleaf didn't mean to kill Ashfur. But in The Forgotton Warrior, Hollyleaf states that it wasn't an accident, and the descriptions from Sunrise and Hollyleaf's Story make it sound very much like Hollyleaf had every intention of killing Ashfur. Should this be added?

Queeniekitten (talk) 19:18, November 9, 2013 (UTC) Dawnclaw
 * The Hollyleaf/Ashfur ordeal is just one huge inconsistent mess. It says one place that Hollyleaf killed Ashfur, another place that he slipped, and I think I've also read that Ashfur attacked Hollyleaf first. I'm not entirely sure on that last one... It really is just a mess. Also, Hollyleaf attacked Ashfur, but he slipped and hit his head on a rock. Whether or not she had any real intentions are still somewhat unlcear, imho, since we've never really seen a direct view of what happened; just flashbacks and non-direct PoVs.


 * Hollyleaf's Story, Kindle Location 205:
 * "When he reached the bank of the stream, with the water foaming far below, Hollyleaf sprang on him, twisted his head to one side, sank her teeth into his fur and skin, telling herself over and over: This is the only way!  Ashfur dropped to his belly and Hollyleaf jumped back as he rolled into the stream."


 * The Forgotten Warrior, page 205:
 * "'They know I killed a cat.'
 * Jayfeather reached out and rested his paw on her shoulder.  'It was an accident, remember.'
 * He could feel Hollyleaf's gaze on him, scorching him like a flame,  'But it wasn't,' she whispered."


 * Hollyleaf's own narration shows that Ashfur neither slipped nor attacked her first, and she tells Jayfeather outright that it was no accident.  And I might add that while not outright stated, it is heavily implied that Brambleclaw lied to protect Hollyleaf.  On the other hand, quite frankly I see no reason why Hollyleaf would tell Jayfeather it was an accident if it wasn't.  I believe Sunrise corroborates the it-was-no-accident view, however I don't have a copy to check.
 * Queeniekitten (talk) 06:59, November 20, 2013 (UTC)Dawnclaw

Feathertail is a Windclan cat?
I could be wrong,but in the Ulitimate Guide on Crowfeather's page it says Feathertail was a Windclan cat

"Feathertail,the Windclan cat,saw past his shyness..."

StormPumpkin (talk) 01:02, April 15, 2014 (UTC) StormPumpkin


 * It is already listed. Sunpath (talk) 01:37, April 15, 2014 (UTC)

Gorsetail wasn't in the allegiances in Dawn. Neonstar (talk) 20:51, April 19, 2014 (UTC)Neonstar
 * Only ThunderClan is given a full allegiance list in the main arc books.

But Gorsetail was in the actual story and he wasn't offscreen --Neonstar (talk) 23:47, April 19, 2014 (UTC)Neonstar
 * I know. That's still not a mistake since they only care enough about ThunderClan to give them a full list. That's happened before too.


 * Then the other times it happened must have also been mistakes. And can you cite which other books that has also happened? Thanks.Neonstar (talk) 00:00, April 20, 2014 (UTC)Neonstar
 * I'm not combing through books to try and find different examples. The Erins have stated before that (except for Super Editions and things of the like) only ThunderClan gets a full allegiances list, and some are bound to be missing.


 * Could you please cite where the Erins said that?Neonstar (talk) 00:10, April 20, 2014 (UTC)Neonstar


 * I can see if I can find it, but I'm not promising anything. Some of our references have expired, making it harder to find the cites.


 * Okay, thank you.Neonstar (talk) 00:41, April 20, 2014 (UTC)Neonstar

Mistake in the Fire and Ice Section
Actually, I believe that Brackenfur is a form of a ginger color. I mean, he always gets described as ginger, so how can we all tell that it's a mistake?Neonstar (talk) 13:56, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Firestar's Quest Mistake
I think Sandstorm had kits while she should have been mentoring Sorreltail. Sorreltail was Sandstorm's apprentice in Firestar's Quest. Think about it, she had kits in Firestar's Quest and Sorreltail didn't become a warrior until Midnight. The special editions have so many continuty errors.

Firestar's Quest Mistake
I think Sandstorm had kits while she should have been mentoring Sorreltail. Sorreltail was Sandstorm's apprentice in Firestar's Quest. Think about it, she had kits in Firestar's Quest and Sorreltail didn't become a warrior until Midnight. The special editions have so many continuty errors.Neonstar (talk) 23:00, April 20, 2014 (UTC)

And I also think that Firestar did have 6 lives left. I think he lost one of them in the Ravenpaw's Path arc. The Erins have stated before that he has lost more lives than you think.Neonstar (talk) 13:54, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Why is Sandstorm having kits while mentoring Sorreltail an error? Whitewing and Brightsky both got pregnant while mentoring.Queeniekitten (talk) 02:44, August 24, 2014 (UTC)Dawnclaw

Bluestar's Prophecy mistakes
I've read and reread Bluestar's Prophecy dozens of times, and here are some things I've been dying to have put on Mistakes:

-In Bluepaw's first battle with RiverClan (page 186), she is said to have nipped a mottled she-cat. However, at that time there was no mottled she-cat in RiverClan.

-At the scene with Oakheart and Bluefur at Fourtrees (page 432), Oakheart states that RiverClan cats don't climb trees. However, in Crookedstar's Promise AND earlier in Bluestar's Prophecy, RiverClan cats have climbed trees.

-At Bluefur's first Gathering as a warrior, a tabby tom, a RiverClan apprentice, says he climbed his first tree. There was no tabby tom apprentice in RiverClan at that time. -- Robin flame 22:29, June 2, 2014 (UTC)

Bluestar's Prophecy was written first. Any contradiction with Crookedstar's Promise would be a Crookedstar's Promise mistake.Queeniekitten (talk) 02:46, August 24, 2014 (UTC)Dawnclaw

Crookedstar's Promise
-On page 241 (I think) in Crookedstar's Promise, Oakheart calls a ThunderClan cat a fish-breath, an insult only directed at RiverClan cats from other Clans.

-At Crookedpaw's first Gathering,on page 162, the cause of the disturbance at the Gathering is RiverClan bringing up the stolen kits. In Bluestar's Prophecy, the cause is WindClan bringing up the recent battle with ThunderClan. -- Robin flame 22:29, June 2, 2014 (UTC)

Just because Oakheart is the only RiverClan cat shown using that insult doesn't make it a mistake. After all, Crookedpaw consciously uses the term "mouse-brain" despite it not being RiverClan vernacular.Queeniekitten (talk) 02:48, August 24, 2014 (UTC)Dawnclaw

Yellowfang's Secret
In Yellowfang's Secret, (page 426) Featherwhisker mentions that he should have an apprentice by the next half-moon, saying that Spottedkit was always poking around his stores. However, Goosefeather didn't retire until after Spottedpaw became a warrior apprentice, so she didn't become Featherwhisker's apprentice until Goosefeather stepped down. Robin flame 11:40, June 4, 2014 (UTC) Second to last Yellowfang's Secret mistake listed. "Goosefeather is mentioned to have died before Spottedkit becomes an apprentice, but in Bluestar's Prophecy, she becomes a medicine cat apprentice after Goosefeather dies.[49] " Is this a mistake? Apparently Spottedleaf becoming Apprentice after Goosefeather dies and Spottedleaf becoming Apprentice after Goosefeather dies are different... Oliver 18:13, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Sunrise Mistake?
I noticed that in allegiances Sol's description is incorrect, and Brambleclaw defines him like that in the book. 20:34 Fri Jun 6

Under Bluestar's Prophecy where it mentions the missing space in "I know,little one.", the citation says it is found on page 479 when it is really on page 478. RussetCode ler (talk) 06:44, June 30, 2014 (UTC) RussetCode_ler

Eclipse mistake
I don't know how to do citations, can someone please add this to the page? On page 177 of Eclipse (it might be 178, hard to tell on Kindle), Icepaw is sent on Whitewing's patrol to the ShadowClan border. On page 181, she is in camp helping to patch up the thorn barrier. On page 182, Icepaw is specifically mentioned returning along with the rest of Whitewing's patrol.Queeniekitten (talk) 05:38, August 25, 2014 (UTC)Dawnclaw

Daughter mix-up?
When Graystripe gives his speech when he moves to the elder's den in Bramblestar's Storm, something doesn't make sense. It says, "and I can scarcely believe that my daughter Mistystar is now leader of RiverClan." Mistystar is Bluestar's daughter. o.o

Featherfire65 (talk) 02:31, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Bramblestar's apprentice
In chapter 23 of Bramblestar's Storm, Squirrelflight mentions that she was Bramblestar's apprentice, when she was actually Dustpelt's.  Unfortunately, my Kindle edition doesn't seem to have page numbers.Queeniekitten (talk) 07:20, August 27, 2014 (UTC)Dawnclaw
 * He briefly kept an eye on her in Midnight, when Dustpelt wanted to stay with Ferncloud for a little while longer in the nursery. That's not a mistake.
 * She was talking about the time they encountered the badger.  Brambleclaw was in that patrol, but she tagged along of her own accord and Thornclaw let her; Brambleclaw wasn't specifically keeping an eye on her that day.Queeniekitten (talk) 23:50, August 27, 2014 (UTC)Dawnclaw
 * Actually, it was right after Dustpelt had asked Brambleclaw to keep an eye on Squirrelpaw. Regardless, I don't know if she's actually calling Brambleclaw her mentor, or if she's referring to the time when Brambleclaw was asked to keep an eye on her.
 * Page 12 of Midnight: Dustpelt asks Brambleclaw to keep an eye on Squirrelpaw.  Page 16: Sandstorm takes over and Brambleclaw is no longer responsible for Squirrelpaw.  Page 25: the book mentions a few days have passed.  Page 29: the badger.  Page 32: Squirrelpaw gets in trouble because she was supposed to be training with Dustpelt that day.  Bramblestar's Storm: "We met a badger once in the old forest; do you remember?  Me [Squirrelflight] and you [Bramblestar] and Thornclaw, when I was your apprentice."Queeniekitten (talk) 00:55, August 28, 2014 (UTC)Dawnclaw

Starlight Grammar Mistake?
Okay, I was reading Starlight, and on page 26, during Squirrelflight's warrior ceremony, it says the following-

"I Firestar, leader of ThunderClan..."

When it should say-

"I, Firestar, leader of ThunderClan..."

Shall I add this?

Cl ҽʋҽ r    La       De              Da ♫  20:25, October 18, 2014 (UTC)

References and Citations
In the References and Citations, 516 has a website or something error. I really want to check out that thing and I can't get to it. Can someone please fix it? Im getting very curious.. 00:22, January 6, 2015 (UTC)