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Nettlepaw (A) - Writhdrawing by user
My first charart! he needs ALOT of work, but i don't know what to do! help? -- ♥Shine star♥  23:41, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

A few things 1) The backgroud is black, it needs to be transparent 2)The image needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail 3)I can't see any shading 4)The ear pink only needs to be on the ear closest to us (His left ear) and it needs to be me of a reddish color--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:47, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

well this was the biggest size it gave me, and, how do you make the background transparent? -- ♥Shine star♥  00:03, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Click on the image on the main page before saving it to your computer. After you've fixed that, I can turn it transparent for you. -- Tinsel claw  00:37, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink is WAY too bright. Make it a more salmony color- run the burn tool over it a few times.-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! 04:34, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

wait, which main page? i thought this was the main page! -- ♥Shine star♥  14:38, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

wait, so you mean go back onto pixrl and color the background white? -- ♥Shine star♥  14:41, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

No, it means you start over on pixlr. I did the same thing. Save the base on your computer, go to pixlr and open a file. You might notice that the background is checkered. That is a transparent background, which is what Wiki needs. Maplefern 14:57, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

but when i did him it had a checked backround! when i had saved it and opened it again, it had a black backround! so i have to do it all over again? ={ -- ♥Shine star♥  15:22, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I think what the problem is is you saved the image on a jpg file. Redo him and then save it on a png file. --Silverbells Merry Xmas! 15:44, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

ok, i put the new one up, but i CANNOT fix the eye and whiskers! also, this is the biggest i can get, which annoys me because all the others are WAY bigger! can someone help? -- ♥Shine star♥  22:00, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Here. Try re-doing him again. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 20:42, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

It is at its full size. Maplefern 22:11, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

The blank is. The Charart is not. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 22:33, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Did you remove the '120 px'in front of it? Maplefern 12:08, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded now he still needs alot more help, but THANK YOU ICESTORM! your blank made ti so the eye was correct and the whiskers, and i didn't have to spend 15 mins going over the white spots like in my old blank. Help? -- ♥Shine star♥  19:54, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

You missed a spot whan you were coloring(his hind leg) and tabby stripes are usually darker than the base pelt color, darken them some. otherwise this is much better.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 20:07, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded again. Now? --User:Shinestar ♥Shine ]] star♥ 20:57, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Make the tabby stripes thicker. Also, save over the former photo. You don't need the older versions.--Maplefern 22:37, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Maplefern is right, Try re-doing the tabby stripes with a size 3 brush. Look at Graystripe's apprentice picture for help. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:37, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Also, maybe darken the earpink a bit. It is a bit bright. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!14:53, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

oh my star clan! i am soo annoyed! i can't find my nettlepaw file on my computer! -- ♥Shine star♥  21:53, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Did you try a search? -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 16:33, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

ya -- ♥Shine star♥  17:56, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Can't you just copy and paste the image from here?-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 18:10, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Uhh...you could just save the image to your computer again. (i think that's what Ashshadow meant.) -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:16, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it is sorry I wasn't clear.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 03:21, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I tried doing that but it comes out all blurry! -- ♥Shine star♥  15:58, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but it sounds like you'll have to start over.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 17:14, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, I'm already trying, just give me a little while to get a new one -- ♥Shine star♥  15:12, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, heres my new nettlepaw, now he needs more work but at least i have something to work WITH. Comments? -- ♥Shine star♥  15:56, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Make the eye like on my tutorials, and add shading, if it's there I can't see it. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 16:51, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i'll get on that soon, my big sis is on the desktop right now. and also, on this computer the tabby stripes look all bad, and icethroat, do you think i should redo my tabby stripes the way it says so on your tutorials, or the way it is already? and it sort of confuses me on the eye thing on your tutorials. -- ♥Shine star♥  00:19, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

please work on this or it will be declined--Echopaw 01:21, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Echopaw what are you talking about it was just updated.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 01:30, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

No, your stripes are fine! I'm not very good at those type of stripes, so I didn't bother making a tutorial for them, that's all. and the eye thing, each block is like a pixel, if that helps any. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 02:03, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, i'll get on it soon, its just that i'm at my cousins for New Years and i'm sleeping over there so my work is on my computer at home. I'll get back on him soon though! -- ♥Shine star♥  16:23, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Also, ice, when i do my new shading, (cause mine you CANNOT see) should i just do it over the tabby stripes or remove them, shade, then put them back on? -- ♥Shine star♥  16:35, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Go over the tabby stripes. The shading should be on both the stripes and the fur. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 18:53, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

ya, i'm working on it, its just really hard for me to do the eyes! i'll have a new one up soon though! promise! -- ♥Shine star♥  17:28, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

I am SO sorry i haven't been on! i just keep getting BOATLOADS of homework! and we have a science project, but i promise to work on him when i have time! (and i have sewing and CDD and science club, and well you get the point) SO sorry! -- ♥Shine star♥  12:49, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too red, and I can't see the eye color.-- Dark hallows 14:23, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

you might be right about the ear pink but the eye color for my computer is a very bright blue. Is it dark for anyone eles? -- ♥Shine star♥  18:12, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, now I see it, make it a little larger.-- Dark hallows 18:47, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

k, i made the eye like in icestorm's tutorials, and i made the ear more pink. How is it now? -- ♥Shine star♥  21:43, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see the changes, upload it under a new file (Nettlepaw.A.png) and then put on the old image. --  Icy -chan   ♥  21:55, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

bangs head on table* i am so dumb! i put up the same file as before! ok, so HERE is my new file! -- ♥Shine star♥  22:08, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Much better! :D Just make the ear pink smaller and blur the tabby markings. --Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 22:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Shinestar there's no shading, please add some-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:50, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

ok, i THINK i fixed it. Now? -- ♥Shine star♥  00:19, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, it might just be my computer, but I still don't see any shading at all. Look at an approved apprentice picture, or a tutorial for shading-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I have a few things to fix =)
 * 1) The ear pink is too bright and needs blending - look at Rockpaw, Bouncepaw and Tinypaw
 * 2) The tabby stripes need thickening
 * 3) Night is right also - more shading is needed. Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  21:14, January 16, 2010 (UTC) ok, i'm on it  ♥Shine  star♥  15:36, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this soon or it will have to be declined. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:35, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

um weird, we commented at the same time but all the same i'm working on him. ♥Shine star♥  15:38, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

ok, i messed up on the tabby stripes BIG TIME but i couldn't undo them cause i had already put in all those lines on the tail. Please help! He looks awful! ♥Shine star♥  17:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

also, i think you can barely see my shading. DX ♥Shine  star♥  18:45, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is better I just think this color is a bit strange for a cat. The earpink is to small and needs to be blured some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:50, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

k i fixed the ear pink but i don't think i should change his color. Anything eles? ♥Shine star♥  19:17, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

ok, something happened. The writing around my picture is all huge. Can someone help with that? ♥Shine star♥  19:22, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I didnt mean to change the color, sorry if thats how it sounded. blur the earpink some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

k, now? ♥Shine star♥  19:30, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I still don't really see much shading. I don't want to be rude, but maybe you could consider taking this down? It's not really anywhere near approval...

There is shading now, but it needs to be blurred, and maybe darkened? And add more stripes.  Dark hallows 07:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the ear pink darker and smaller. Icestorm Hi There! 18:22, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

i am so sorry! but i really don't have enough time to work on him, CCD, sewing, sci club, lacross, ect. But good news, i found the old files of the nettlepaw's i worked on so i can just go back to the one i did before the shading, do new shading, and then work from there, but i would have to repost him in a while! sorry i haven't been on! also, how do i decline it, do i delete the section, write decline over "for approval" or does one of the sr. warriors decline it? I don't know, i just know that i don't have time for nettlepaw right now. srry i gtg to bed, 10 on a school night, i wake up EARLY, k bye! really srry! ♥Shine star♥  03:06, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

What you do is change the heading up top from "for approval" to "withdrawn" or "withdrawing" and then Sandy, Bramble, me, or one of the other senior warriors will archive it in the declined section. --  Icy -chan   ☆  03:22, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm asuming by this that you want to withdraw this? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  18:00, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blackclaw (E) - For Approval
Since there are a few images that are being approved/declined, I decided it was okay to post Blackclaw as an elder. Comments/Criticism? --Happy New Year! 09 01:56, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

dodge the middle,cause i chan't see the shading now.-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  04:04, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. Anything other comments? --Happy New Year! 09 19:20, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps darken the ear pink a little? More like his warrior image- Blackclaw--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 21:41, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. --Happy New Year! 09 14:20, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 10:01, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Better? --Happy New Year! 09 15:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little bit darker, the same color as his warrior image. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been touched in a week, please work on it or it will be declined Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:03, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can you keep this up for another day? I just installed Windows XP on my computer and I haven't transfered all my old information to it. I'll do it as soon as I can. Snowfall 09 03:12, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, done. Anything else? Snowfall 09 03:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit more, and then this should be good. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in a week. Please upload soon or it will be declined  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 07:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Stonefur (K)--For Approval


I finally have a picture and uploaded it but the picture won't appear. What do I do? WoodClan 19:21, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

1. Because it says Image instead of File.

2, xcf is not a um thing. Example png. Save it under png. --Icy Let's Go 2010! 19:27, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

My first Charart at last! I did this one because Stonefur appears as a kit in BP. What do you think? (Thanks for the help in uploading the image) WoodClan 20:18, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think he's a little to blue. Try to match the color of his warrior image.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 20:48, January 1, 2010 (UTC) I agree with Ashshadow. He needs to be blue-gray, like on his warrior image. (see here. The chest shading also looks smudged. -- ♪ Raven star ♫  :P20:51, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Better. The title needs to say '(Character name)--For Approval'. Just so you know. Happy New Year! 22:42, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too bright and purplish. Make it a more reddish colour and blur. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  16:12, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-changed ear color WoodClan 21:43, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

It still is too bright- see Stonefur-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 21:55, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-changed ear color. How is it? WoodClan 22:46, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Better =) Just bur the shading and highlights and this looks good Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  19:31, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-blurred the shading and highlights some more. Is it ready now? WoodClan 01:16, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on his front leg still needs more blurring.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 01:18, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-altered the shading and tints for the front legs WoodClan 20:26, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look good, but they need to be blurred some more. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 23:01, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-altered the highlights WoodClan 23:37, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the highlights and shading need to be blurred-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:00, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

And the ear pink looks too hot pink, try making it a little more of a reddish color like his warrior image-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-altered the shading again, the ear color is identical to Stonefurs warrior picture WoodClan 18:08, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more and instead of altering the highlights blur this time. Sometimes after altering the color it blurs more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:07, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-blurred ear pink, what now? WoodClan 02:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight on his chest is too bright-try darkening it some. Also, blur the ear pink a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:40, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in a week. Please work on this soon or it will have to be declined. --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:17, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Tadpole (Ki)- For Approval
So this is my first cat up for approval. Any suggestions?--QuailflightTheCat 00:13, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Good job for your first charart! But the lineart seems kind of blurred... try doing it again with this blank: The shading looks great though! -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. That's probably my horrible shading. 8)--Quail 01:01, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

No, the shading's great! Tell me if you need any help with it. I'm fairly good at black cats. And you've took on a hard one for your first charart! Black and white cats are the hardest to shade - trust me, I know! Snowfur was my first cat! -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:06, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I know too. Before it switched to Kestrelflight, that section was Hollyleaf-who I'm thinking of reposting. Snowfern Snow!

Thanks, Batwing. I'm going to re-upload it, and make sure it looks better. I didn't use any highlighting, oh yeah, something's wrong with my siggy! :( 8|--Quail! Meow! 01:53, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Okay, I re did it. Hopefully this is a little better.--Quail! Meow! 03:00, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, I think Blackclaw had this reserved first, but I'm not positive. I'll check the history--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:22, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Acually Quail, I don't even see your siggie on the current project list. Did you even reserve Tadpole?--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I did. At the bottom. Sorry for any problem, Snowfall. --Quail! Meow! 03:31, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well it looks as if Blackclaw reserved Tadpole under the status as a rogue, however Tadpole was seen as a rogue kitten. You may have reserved him later on under the right blank I believe, but Blackclaw did reserve Tadpole first even if it wasn't under the right status. I'm not a senior warrior anymore so I think we might have to ask Sandy or Bramble about this...or maybe Blackclaw will let you keep the image up.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  03:55, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm....I didn't see Blackclaw's name on the reserve list, and no Tadpole, it should be okay.--Quail! Meow! 04:02, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, you only reserved Tadpole after I told you you weren't on the list. Anyway, Shimmerpool's right. Ask Bramble, Sandy, or Blackclaw--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 04:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Blackclaw is under a different name as they changed their for the holidays. It is Rainwhisker and the 6th user on the page. Check for yourself and click the link and it will take you to Blackclaw's page. I for one only have to hover over a person's name to see what userpage it will take me too.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  06:17, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Talk to Rainwhisker about it, Quailflight. I'm going to stay out of this one, because of her doing a rogue version when he's just a kitten. -- Bramble -sama  22:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

You can keep this up for approval, since I reserved him in the wrong blank and you got him up first, so keep it. I'll remove him from my reservations (current projects list). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 00:09, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks really strange, it's lighter than the pelt. The shading is supposed to be darker the pelt, not lighter. Also, darken and blur the ear pink. There are some white pixels on his front left paw, and the eyes don't really look right. Look at Icethroat's tutorials to see how to do the kits's eyes-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:53, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Blackclaw let me keep the image, so I reuploaded it. The file is Tad5.-- Qua il! <font color="Green"> Meow!06:54, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink and nose need to be a bit darker. People usually choose Rippletail as a good color. Also try to make the earpink as close to the same size as possible, right now his left ear is bigger than the right.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 03:30, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I changed the ear and nose colors. Anything else?-- Qua il! <font color="Green"> Meow!00:48, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay...I'm pretty happy with my charart....but I'll reupload it...-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!10:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-It doesn't look like I did much, but I was trying to make the ears a little lighter, and balance out the highlights. Any suggestions? QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!10:27, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'd personally advise you get rid of the highlights and just use shading on a kit. Thicken the neck shading and blend. Make the ear pink smaller and get a tiny size 3 brush to blur slightly. Also - take a darker reddish-pink colour such as on Crowtail or my awful image of Cloudspots ^_^ Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-lightened ears and nose, and got rid of highlights, as Sandy said.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box21:00, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks too hot pink to me. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:26, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, it looks more purple to me. Make it more like this- Blackclaw Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I tried to make the ears a little better.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box03:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a redish color. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 20:02, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-used more red in ears.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box22:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there's some lineart missing on the paws - check the kit blanks and replace it. The ear pink needs blending slightly (be carfeul not to blur the lineart) and the shading needs to be darker. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  11:48, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I redid the whole image, even though I think this is worst.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box23:56, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a lot more, and thicken all of the shading a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:44, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded Blurred and thickened. Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 05:31, January 23, 2010 (UTC)'''

The shading still needs blending and the ear pink/nose is too red. Make it a paler reddish-pink like Morningflower or Blackclaw OR a greyish-pink like Darkstar. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:52, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rock Beneath Still Water (CG) - For Approval
I know this is #41(whoa), but there's one discussion, four images in the 24 hour stage, and one to be declined. I really hate his tail. Why did Sharptooth have to bite it off? G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:58, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I really like the mud lightning, but I think the ear pink could be red, or darker. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:45, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, his stumpy tail doesn't look right. There's no lineart to indicate where the tail ends. Try fixing that-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:25, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I like the coloring, but I think the tail would look a smidge less odd if it stuck out past the body a little bit. Not a ton, because I know it has to be short, but the way it is now it almost looks like part of the body, so if you made it stick out a bit it would be more clear that it was the tail. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you mean. If you do that on a cave guard blank....As for the ear pink, I took the same colour which I used on Jag, as if I'm not wrong, that's the standard colour. If I am wrong, just tell me, and I'll change it. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

But Jag isn't the same color as Rock. I can barely see the ear pink on this one-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was looking at the tail in the wrong direction, but I figured out what the problem is after looking at the blank again. I think you just forgot to put the end of the tail in? It looks like the tail just vanishes... (Maybe it's my computer screen, since his fur is so dark) but I made a diagram to show what I mean. I think when you were erasing the tail you just forgot to put in a new end, like that. As I said, I'm on a semi-cruddy monitor right now, so it might be the screen not letting me see it, but... yeah... <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 17:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

No Insaneular, you're right. There's no end to the tail. That's what I was trying to say in my first comment.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The way you ended the tail looks odd. Maybe make it a bit longer. I dont really know how to describe what I'm talking about.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Ashshadow, can you make the tail a bit longer, so it overlaps with the front leg a bit? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

It is supposed to be a stump. And I don't think stumps are that long. "...whose tail was merely a stump."– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but maybe make the end more round. It looks to boxish-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:52, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

D'oh! Just ignore me, then. I was thinking just a short tail, not a stump. *fail* <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 12:06, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 04:05, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the tail is better. But his hanuch is bothering me. Do them more like this maybe?-

-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:52, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe bring the line down a little or get rid of that black pixel.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:09, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? – – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

There is a black spot above his foot. Either get rid of it or connect the leg to it. I can make an example if you need it.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 14:47, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:34, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more shading and blend it. The shading you have now has been donne on highlights right? It looks very... saturated ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:37, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 11:54, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit brighter and more noticeable. Also, blur the mud streaks a tad bit more. -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 19:19, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Icicle (K) For Approval


Hi! This is my first charart. It's Icicle the kit from the Ravenpaw's Path Manga series. Please leave comments and stuff so I can fix it. Also, as an apprintice I want to say Bluestar's tutorial was very helpful. Thank you Bluestar! I had no clue what to do! This isn't very good but like I said, it's my first cat. Tell me what to do and thanks! May StarClan light your path!Artimas Hunter 19:14, January 8, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, first of all in needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail. Second, I see you've saved it in jpg format. It's a way better idea to save it in either png. or gif. Third, the background needs to be transparent right now it's black. Fourth, the eyes need eye white. Look at this for help--User:Icethroat21/Tutorials. Fifth, the ear pink is to hot pink, make it lighter and then blur. Sixth, she's supposed to be pale gray, with a white stripe on her forhead, a white chest, see here -Icicle She just looks white. Darken the gray on her pelt, and blend the spots where it's supposed to be white-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:23, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Glad I could help! Ok, go back and save it in your image program, but save it as a PNG, so the background will be transparent. You need to make the white mark very, very pale gray, and darken the pelt color. The ear pink looks too hot pink - see the chart on my tutorials for reference. He needs highlights, and the shading needs to be darkened/thickened. The eyes also need a glare (little white dot). See Icethroat's tutorials on how to do the eye. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆23:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits! I changed it so it fits both of your suggestions!Artimas Hunter 17:11, January 9, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Better. Now blur the white parts.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Artimas Hunter 20:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This looks good =) You need to blur the white a bit more though - try looking at some other patched cats to see how much to blur. Also, the shading needs to be a bit thicker and blended in more. Look at Applefur's kit version for an example as to how I would shade a kit. Be careful not to blur the lineart though. This is a great start to a first image =) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  20:30, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I think it turned out okay too. :D Is this better?Artimas Hunter 21:01, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This is really good but, darken the earpink a tad.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this is better? I'm so excited for it to be approved! I hope it's soon!00:05, January 12, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay sorry if this goes into another chart, my computer's got a problem, anyways here is Icicle again for approval. Comment back! I think she's almost ready for approval but I am kinda biased on the opinion! :D Artimas Hunter 21:42, January 13, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Hi! I know I'm being really impatient but I'm bored and no one has comented for days. Would someone have mercy and comment PLEASE??!! I want her to be approved cause I made 2 other chararts that are ready to go when she gets approved.Artimas Hunter 22:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

The highlight looks too bright Icecloud33  00:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''I think you're looking at the white chest and think theyre highlights. The earpink color still isnt quite right, try a color like Tess or Husker and blur it'''.The font is actin up on me T.T Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:42, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you soooooooooooo much for commenting! i think I was about to explode! :D I see what you mean aboutt the font.....anyways, here is Icicle revised! Ashshadow is right, she has a white chest not highlights but if those were highlights they would be WAY to bright! What do you think? I'm so excited!Artimas Hunter 01:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

- Okay, I know this is my own image and I don't normally give them as examples, but you need to make the shading thicker and darker and blurred. You could also use Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better?Artimas Hunter 23:50, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the shading some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:07, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Artimas Hunter 20:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Getting there =) Add some shading under the neck and on the face ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:11, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Thanks, I hope I get done soon! It's turning out way better then I thought it would!Artimas Hunter 22:11, January 21, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, now blend the shading ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? It's not blurring well biut that might just be me. Do you think it needs more?Artimas Hunter 00:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Sootfur (Ki) For Approval
I know this is the 41st one, but there are 1 or 2 join requests and like 4 with a comments before approval on them. So here is one of my favorite ThunderClan cats as a kit! -- Night whisker 9 8 Merry Leaf-bare! 21:36, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shding alot more please. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 22:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Better?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:16, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

abit more.And the shading near the left side of the head looks weird to me. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 23:46, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more and darken ear pink. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:violet;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 01:50, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, how's this? And FirePelt, what do you mean by it looks weird. If you could help me, that would be great.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:24, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, but the lineart is a little patchy, and the ear pink is hardly visible.-- Dark hallows 14:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Patchy how?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 15:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks blurred in some places.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Anything else?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, the ear pink is too large and barely visible, and theres no dodging. Otherwise, it's great! :D Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

I'm not sure about this, but highlights aren't required, although shading is, also I have blurred the shading to the max on pixlr, If you wanted to help me with the shading, that would be awesome, and about the earpink, what color should it be?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

You're right about highlights, they're not required. And as for the ear pink, look at his warrior image for help on the color- Sootfur-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:45, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Soory, but uploads are disabled. I fixed the ear pink color though.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:33, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuloaded. better now? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:24, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading on his hind foot. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:41, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:12, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this ok? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:16, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the lineart for you, as you'd distorted it a quite bit... other than that, all I really see is that the hind paw needs a little more shading on it's far end, and to blur the existing shading. Also, don't upload a new file each time; just upload over the old file name. -- Bramble -sama  02:35, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the eyes. They look scary. Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 06:43, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Scary How? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 13:46, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I think what Quaily means is that the eyes look sort of orange. I think. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading under the chin. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:39, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I used his warrior image's eye color, but i'll fix it. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenfur (Kit) for approval


Ok.... This is my first kit. I looked at the tutorials, and i'm not quite sure if I shaded, dodged, burned, and blurred right but..... I'm an apprentice, and proud of my work! :D Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Try uploading it on here so we can see the picture without clicking on the link.-- Nightshine Let it snow! 01:39, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I tried, but It didn't work... Do you think you could save it and upload it yourself? Swiftpelt 04:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Got it. That's a very interesting file name though-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred more, and... it looks a little yellow.-- Dark hallows 14:28, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the yellow spots. Make the ear pink darker and thicken the tabby stripes.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 21:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is like, hot pink. Make it like his warrior image-- Brackenfur. And the stripes look way to much like thin veins. Maybe try and make them a little thicker, or bigger, then blur them. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:00, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The ear pink is much better. But his nose needs to be the same color as the ear pink, or at least really close-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:49, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Nose fixed. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The Tabby stripes need to be blurred, and his pelt color looks a bit too orange, can you try and make it a bit more golden brown like his warrior pic? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 00:46, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now it's about as golden brown as It can get. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Look at his warrior image and take the colours from there. Snowfern Snow! 01:44, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I gave it better coloring. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Okay, the color is a lot better. But the ear pink looks weird, one's smaller than the other. Please make them as even as possible. Second, the stripes still need to be blurred some. And third, the eyes look... strange. Like maybe some lineart was cut off? Look at User:Icethroat21/Tutorials for help on the eye-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Eyes fixed, ears fixed, stripes blurred. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Add a stripe to each of the front two paws, blur the highlights, and there's some lineart missing in multiple places. Also, the ear pink looks a little purplish, make it more pinkish or reddish. --  Icy -chan  16:56, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded A else? Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The ear pink is too bright, make it more salmony. Second, blur his chest shading.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Look at his warrior image for earpink color and blur chest shading more. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:11, January 14, 2010 (UTC) Brackenfur

' ' 'Reuploaded' ' ' I think this has been up for about a week now. :O Swiftpelt 13:00, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the highlights on his chest and add some tabby markings to his chest. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:13, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Swiftpelt 23:05, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks too thin. Try copying it back over the blank. --  Icy -chan   ☆  23:55, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Swifty How's the prey running?

Darken the shading and add some under his chin. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:30, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sasha (Q) - For Approval
if somebody has it, please let me do it!!it took me time.and leafpool;s for comments before approval, so i think its okay..-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, but you should either blur or burn the brown parts.. Then it will look perfect! Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The shading looks a little lumpy. Blend it more.-- Dark hallows 14:25, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Can you darken the brown stripes and other markings a bit? They look a little lighter then the rogue version... <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 17:33, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks AMAZING!!!! I don't know how you get approval cuz I'm an apprintice but you should get it!!!Artimas Hunter 22:37, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the belly shading A LOT.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  00:50, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:44, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it some more. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:07, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 03:06, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

She looks a little cross eyed. Try making the eyes like in Poppyfrost--  Night shine   ★  04:14, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightshine, she looks a little cross-eyed, but overall beautiful-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!04:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 02:41, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights across her pelt, they look lumpy Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:53, January 16, 2010 (UTC) reuploadedlalala!!i'm gonna see avatar!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Cool, I hope you like it :) And that looks much better. But make the ear pink a little bigger, look at an approved queen image for reference  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

i don't see problems.. anyway night,thanks for adding comments every time!:)--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 06:57, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt looks a bit smudgy - blend it some more. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:59, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 11:14, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. And just do a once-over with the blur tool over the whole image. Bramble -sama  02:26, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 04:19, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

I can still see where you've used to the smudge tool... ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:53, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 06:56, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfur (W) For Approval
I know this is over the image limit, but there are 10 with comments before approval (including Husker *Smiles*) and one problem thingy. So technically, this is 33 or 34... anyways... comments?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:13, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

I am so stupid! I forgot to shade it!  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:20, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you can't lighten his fur even the tiniest bit? It's so dark I can't see the outline. Example: Blackclaw Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

To lighten it, I suggest you redo the image and color it a really dark gray that isn't so dark like the one you have. Then you can run the burn tool over it to make it look black. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 15:05, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Run the Burn Tool over the whole image?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 15:12, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

No, Blackclaw means (I think) That you should make the base color of the fur a dark gray, so you can still shade it, but it still looks close to black. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 15:51, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh... I got it now... Night whisker 98 Rawr! 18:09, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- this better?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:22, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is too thick. Thin it. Also, darken ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 01:00, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Better? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:29, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks weird, it's gray. Try making it the color of the following- Molewhisker, Blackclaw, Hollyleaf, or Nightcloud Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:32, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his back Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  14:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

How's This? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 17:48, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink, now I can't really see it Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:06, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The back shading is too thick. Thin it and blur it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:17, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:54, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks - For Approval


Ok here are the Sharpclaw blanks from left to right it short hair male, short hair female, long hair male and long hair female. What do you think? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

These are great! Maybe for the long haired you could make the face a bit shaggy.  Night shine   ★  01:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean like add couple lines like what on the chest to show the fur? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah.  Night shine   ★  01:43, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded how is that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 02:50, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, these are really good, but I think Hawktalon (Or Flamingomom) had these reserved first. The date says Jan. 11 Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's great! But I guess Hawtalon did reserve it first. Maybe these could be something else? But there is nothing else  Night shine   ★  03:03, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I guess you could ask Hawktalon if you could keep these. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:05, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Shot I looked but I guess I missed her. I spoke to her know I'm waiting to hear back. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 03:34, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I kinda dought Hawktalon's on right now. You might have to wait until tomorrow Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

i heard back from Hawktalon she said that i could have it : ) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 21:44, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thickin the line art for the features such as eyes and nose. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Really good! But maybe thicken the pupil in all the eyes. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 22:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok before I edit all of them here is what one looks with thicker lines on the featues and thicker puplis does it look better? Personaly I like the first ones better <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 22:19, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the pupils but I think the features look better. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I've got a few things. First of all, they all look kinda sad, like their whiskers are all droopy and their eyes are flat. Both the ears and paws are too round. Sharpen the ears some, and as for the paws, make them a little more flat on the bottom. And then their elbows look a little too flappy, make them a little straighter Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:13, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

ok how is this? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:33, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think the "eyelashes" on the females should be at a more horizontal angle--  Night shine   ★  00:43, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded like that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:55, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's better!--  Night shine   ★  00:58, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add a line at where the muzzle begins, like on the leader images. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:02, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Their backs should not be one equal slope, there should a small bump where the shoulder is after going down a little, then it down in the slope of the rest of thier back. You can look at sitting cat pictures for examples, such as this one: Link I know he's facing a different direction, but it's the same basic idea. Bramble -sama  02:14, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble's right about their backs. But also, could you upload the changes you made onto all of the blanks? It's getting kind of confusing-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:12, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Here is an example I made. Could you please add the muzzle line like I did? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:47, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge (KP) - For Approval
nobody has him up plus i really wanted to do him so please don't decline this! Echopaw 15:09, January

16, 2010 (UTC)

He looks nothing like his picture in Cats of the Clans.Look at that for a refrence.And theres no need for ear pink on the farthest ear.Also,it's to dark and looks more like a acute triangle,amke it alittle smaller and blur it. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 15:16, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter whether you really wanted to do him or not, Shruggy (Brambleclaw14) has him on his current projects. I am going to decline this, sorry. People 'reserve characters because they really want to do them, and if you want to put characters up either add them to your own list before anyone else does, or discuss it with the person who has it reserved before you post. Declined for said reasons.
 * Note: nobody has him up because the blanks have been approved not 5 minutes ago.

Also - approval has an 'a' not an 'e' ;) Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  15:32, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sandy Echopaw can do him. the thing I use for making then isn't working (nothing is working :[ ) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:48, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, back up for approval. Sorry to hear that Shruggy. Echo - just remember for next time Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  15:55, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the patches looks odd to me, or is it supposed to be like that?-- Moss I'm Up There!  19:03, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty good, but i think it could use some more shading, and also, blur the patches a lot. The edges look rough now. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 19:40, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, that's not exactly fair. I reserved him, and I thought nobody can take your reservation. Plus: I did him earlier, see? I thought I did a good job too. :( Swiftpelt 19:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

When you reserved him Brambleclaw14 had him first.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw's reservation wasn't on there before the new Character thing. When I put it up there, nobody had it. Oh well.... :'( Swiftpelt How's the prey running? 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Shruggy definitely had him first because I checked when I removed him from your current projects. Sorry Swiftpelt. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  20:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Echopaw,he looks nothing like his image in cats of the clans.In it,he's a black cat with small white spots on various places.Look in that book for a refrence once again. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt: Give him/her a chance - it's only been a couple of hours; you can't expect everyone to edit an image that quickly. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  22:30, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I know,but still.For some reason I get paranoid on things like this.I want them to be as accurate as possible.Also,his eyes are supposed to be amber. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

thanks sandy and im a she! Echopaw 22:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and Cats of the Clans it terribly inaccurate in some images. I never pictured Smudge like he was portrayed in that book. But our chararts don't really have to look like their images in Cats of the Clans. Take Heathertail for example. She looks nothing like she's supposed to in Cats of the clans, she's orange with purply eyes. But her charart was done beautifully, the way she was described in the book. So, I don't think that should be an issue -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Smudge's base color is black. I guess you can replace the white with black, and the black with white.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well wait a minute, we don't know that. There are so many mistakes in that book that we can't be sure. I think it's fine if we just keep it white with black patches.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:27, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think we need to go on written evidence as we cannot be sure the pictures are entirely correct seeing as they were an artist's own impression of the characters and not Erin Hunter's own work. As long as the image fits the book descriptions we have of him, I think it'll be okay Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, as for the image. The eyes do need to be amber, as that's been cited from the book. The ear pink looks too purple, make it more reddish like this -- Bone -- Blur the patches more, and add some more shading to the head -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED sorry well here he is Echopaw 22:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The patches and earpink need to be blurred more.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED here is he any better? Echopaw 14:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Right now it looks like there's lineart around the patches, it needs to be blended between the black and white to be a gray-ish color. For examples, look at Patchpelt, Mousewhisker, Toadstep, Crowfrost, Cloudspots, Smoky, Floss, Fritz, or Splash. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:56, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 16:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The patches still need to be blurred a lot, and so does the ear pink. Also, there needs to be ear pink on his right ear also -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

No NIght, that ear is turned away from us. Blur the shading on his head. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be a lot smaller, so it fits inside the ear. Blur as well, like Night says, on all the shading. Bramble -sama  02:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded Echopaw 21:01, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still purple. Look at Splash to get the right color, and then really blur it. Also, the shading on his head still needs to be blurred a lot. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:29, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better! Echopaw 23:26, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Swiftpelt i took down your smudge cause it was really confusing me! Echopaw 00:39, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks very purple to me, and the shading needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 13:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little more. Also lighten the shading on his head. The ear pink looks very purple. Perhaps make it like Whitestorm. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:16, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Snowdrop(KP)-for approval
there's snowdrop! XD I'm pretty proud of this image so....comments?-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 23:37, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

You spelled Snowdrop wrong, but overall, pretty good! The only thing is I have to say is..nothing! I'm speechless! I love the shading!-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! But blur that little part of shading that's right on top of her muzzle -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:17, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded -- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 02:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks a little weird on the left of her back and the top of her shoulder. Maybe blur it some more.  Night shine   ★  03:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The right ear (our right) shouldn't have ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  21:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well acually, the right ear should have ear pink. Because the cat is facing us. The fronts of both ears are facing us also. I think the ear pink looks fine -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:43, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I guess that makes sense. Never mind, then:) -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  17:54, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I just checked the For Approval section for the kittypet blanks, and Quietstep said that the right ear (our right) is turned away from us, so it shouldn't have ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  23:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

But, that kinda doesn't make sense. The ear doesn't look as if it's turned at all. It's facing straight at us. Maybe we should ask Quiet?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

See the curve in the blanks right ear (our right)? Does it appear in the left? Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:38, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

er...I guess I'll let you decide on that first and I'll fix the shading now -Bracken-(not signed in)

any bstter?-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 02:15, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. But there is a little part right uner her collar tag that looks strange to me. It's solid gray. Make it white, and just darken the shading in that part-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:19, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Cedarpaw (A) - For Approval


This is my first charart so it's not that good. ^^; How can I improve it? Lotusfire 17:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

This is a really good charart for your first one,but,which ever Cinderpaw this is,they both have a apprentice charart.Im sorry. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 17:39, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt is right. Perhaps take the pixels from the eye and change the eye colour to amber and this can be Cedarheart's app pic? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:53, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, good idea Sandy :) Try that Lotus! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:01, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree.But s/he might have to change the pelt color,seeing as it is darker than the elder and warrior image. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 20:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC) 

Nothing the dodge tool cant fix. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, the dodge tool is like the shading tool, except it lightens. It looks like a little microphone. Get a large brush size and just run over the image a few times, and erase a few of the pixels of the eye to make it look masculine. That's about it. -- Bramble -sama  02:04, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I changed it, it might not be blurred enough, but how is it? Lotusfire 03:20, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

It still needs to be lightened a bit. Look at Cedarheart's elder and warrior images to get an idea of how light it should be - Cedarheart -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:23, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's lighter now, I'm still a compy art noob. >.<;;; Lotusfire 03:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

The colour looks fine to me now. Just blend the shading and highlights Lotus. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:57, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I blurred more. Lotusfire 01:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lionheart (D) for approval
(All but the tail and far leg are made by Dawnfeather) His tail turned out weird -- Icecloud33  02:23, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is over the image limit. Please take this down. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 02:25, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I thought the limit was 35 this is image 34 so ? Icecloud33  02:26, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

She has a point but i thought he was allready done as a deputy Echopaw 02:27, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Bluestar had him up but she withdrew him i think Icecloud33  02:29, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure his other deputy image was withdrawn/declined? And yeah, it's only image 34, so it should be okay. Not much I can see wrong with this image :) Except, add shading on his other front paw (the one that's raised, and in the back of the other) and maybe add a highlight on his tail? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 02:30, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

NVM. Thought this was 35. For the image, make the ear pink more pink not purple. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 02:31, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Um, Reuploaded and the ear pink is from the warrior image Icecloud33  02:35, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Why is he sitting on his tail? Try fixing that.--  Night shine   ★  03:35, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

And also his eyes should be green. This looks like a copy of the warrior image wit the tail redone.--  Night shine   ★  03:37, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Now that Nightshine mentioned it, it's not the right deputy blank. There's too much of his back leg showing, it should be covered by his tail. How did you get the tail like that? o3o <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 11:48, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure i will try fixing it Icecloud33  12:44, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? Icecloud33  13:00, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

You need to make his eyes green-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:46, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

His warrior image has amber eyes. Shoudn't we go for consistency Seastar  19:57, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

It does have green eyes (warrior image) anyway Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Lime;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Angelstorm Purr all the way! :) 20:15, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

When you copy-and-pasted, the lineart was off...try erasing the lineart that should be there (close to the ear and the head). --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:51, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

White pixle on chest,the lineart it weird nest to head and head,looks like he is sitting on his tail. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 22:47, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

His tail is fine. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:50, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Their is extra line art on places. Thinin it, and it should be good. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:01, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Lime;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Angelstorm Purr all the way! :) 01:08, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on the tail are really bothering me. Could you try and make them look, more irregular, instead of just perfect triangles?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:15, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Better? we accidentaly uploaded this on Spottedsky's account <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Lime;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Angelstorm Purr all the way! :) 01:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that Icy I forgot to log out Seastar  01:30, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but darken them. I can't really se them all that well. And add one to the tip of the tail Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 17:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Timberfur (W) - For Approval
The section says it all. Blacky OMG 2010 IS ON IT'S WAY! 02:34, January 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Add a lot more shading, and blur it, also blur his ear pink. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 02:35, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Btw nice sig Insane. :) Blacky OMG 2010 IS ON IT'S WAY! 02:43, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to his chest, and blur it as much as you can-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded. Blacky OMG 2010 IS ON IT'S WAY! 16:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

better, just add shading under his chin, and round out the shading on his haunch, it's sorta oddly shaped. Also make his ear pink a little bigger. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:31, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blacktail <font color="#008000">Talk! 00:25, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Snowfur (K) for approval
First charart is this okay Seastar  19:59, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't see any shading. Look at some apprentice tutorials to learn how to shade a white cat-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:59, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfall, there is shading. I've learned a trick, when I look at my laptop from different angles determines whether you can see the shading on a white cat or not...Spottedsky, thicken and darken the shading and this should be good. This is awesome for your first try! --  Icy -chan   ☆  02:18, January 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * In Bluestar's Prophecy its mention that her ears are gray.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  19:10, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Must have been a typo, because they're blue. It says right here- ''"Snowkit!" Bluekit breathed. "What is it?" Snowkit blinked open her eyes. They were blue.''. Bluestar's prophecy, pg 10. And, after Whitestorm was born Bluestar mentioned countless times of how much Whitestorm's blue eyes reminded her of Snowfur's eyes. And on top of that, her apprentice, warrior, and queen images have blue eyes.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:13, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

You must have misread ears for eyes. I think they are supposed to be gray tiped. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:17, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that's right. Spottedsky, make her ear tips gray. Look at one of her approved character pixles if you have trouble-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:14, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Better Seastar  01:17, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Umm, what do you mean by that?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:19, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Huh changes aren't showing. Try it again, then upload. If not you'll have to change the file name. So add the gray ear tips and blur the shading more. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? they are showing up now Seastar  01:28, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ice- For Approval
Okay, he's back up! Constructments? -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 00:33, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great. Just put a little shading on the ear, and blur the ear pink just a touch. -- Bramble -sama  01:10, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

It might not be necessary, but I think a couple highlights on his shoulder and haunch would make the shading look a little more dramatic :) Also, blur the ear pink. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 01:33, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 15:24, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a touch and this should be ready. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 17:56, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Fuzzypelt(W) - For Approval


Hmm.. what was I gonna say on this pic... oh yes; ultimate fail. =) Please, constructments? -- Bramble -sama  01:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe put one more tuft, right before his ear. No other comments then that. Maplefern Hi everyone! 01:11, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble three words: '''not ultimate fail. '''I agree with Maple, other than that I see nothing else. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:14, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I've been waiting to see this one for a long time. Ice is right: so not ultimate fail. He's really good =) The bit behind his ear looks too flat though, as Maple said. ∑✐ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  13:27, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm.. if you say so. =) The tuft has been added right in front of the ear. -- Bramble -sama  22:12, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Stoneteller - For Approval
Here he is again.  Night shine   ★  03:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good! But wouldn't he have mudstreaks? I don't remember whether it said in the book or not-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure. It said in Outcast that he hardly ever leaves the cave. Would he need mud streaks?--  Night shine   ★  03:12, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good point. Let me check in Moonrise real quick... -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:25, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, it says right here- ''Then he spotted Crag again, emerging from the far passage and padding across the caave floor toward the tight group of forest cats. He was followed by another cat, long-bodied and skinny as a WindClan warrior. So much mud plastered his fur that Stormfur couldn't make out what color it was underneath, but his eyes were a deep glowing green, and a few white hairs around his muzzle betrayed the fact that he was older than the cats they had seen so far.'' That's from Moonrise, pg 113. So, according to this, he does have mud on him-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:29, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I added mud streaks. I don't think they look that great though--  Night shine   ★  03:54, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make them thicker and Darken them. Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with thickening them but i think the color is fine. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 15:17, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I thickened and darkened them a bit.--  Night shine   ★  04:51, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more of a reddish color. Also blur the highlight (?) around his muzzle. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:24, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Changed ear pink. I think the muzzle is fine though.--  Night shine   ★  20:36, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Fuzz (KP) - For approval
Evanphoto 12:36, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, thicken the shading all around, and it looks like there's a black blob on the edge of the collar tag....? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  13:11, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 13:26, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading then blur it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:13, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Pinepaw--For Approval
Wow, this, I think is my third apprentice. Or my Fourth. Actually, it's my fifth. I've done way to many apprentices; over have my images are apprentices. I could ramble on and on....but I won't. So, Comments?

Whoops forgot earpink.... Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:45, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, just blur all the shading more, and make the earpink a little brighter and less purple-y. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  13:08, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 13:16, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 01:25, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and make the ear pink smaller. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:28, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:45, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 12:52, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anythig else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:53, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Purdy (KP) For Approval
Oh my god, this is probably my worst attempt at copying another image ever... because Quietstep's work on his elder image was so awesome that I couldn't copy it. Alright, criticism? *dies* <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  12:53, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink slightly. This is great though! ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  13:13, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

'Reuploaded Why is it always the ear pink that kills me? O///O <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  13:16, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I love it, but would he really have patchy fur as a kittypet? I think that just happened when he became a loner. What do you guys think?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:08, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well he was old so patchy fur as a kittypet should be ok. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:20, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Umm any other issues? (I had the same thinking as you on the patched fur, Ahsshadow) <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  12:09, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Rose(KP)- For Approval
Well I tried to do her but she needs alot of work.Echoheart 14:00, January 24, 2010 (UTC)



Didn't I have her reserved, or did Echo have her first? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  15:23, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mouse: you have Mistyfoot and Whitetail? Echoheart has Rose from what I can see ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:27, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

face palm* I had her reserved, but then I edited hger out. *another face palm* Møųş  ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  15:42, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, for the image Echoheart: The shading seems to be lighter than the pelt colour... you need to use the burn tool to shade. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:20, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I personally think that she still needs alot of work.Echoheart 17:28, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too purplish, and she looks nothing like her sister, Lily. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  18:59, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Two cats wouldn't look exactly the same. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:02, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too purplish. Also, the shading is still lighter than the pelt and needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:05, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but her fur looks almost... greenish? Maybe make it more cream colored? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  19:21, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I thought Nightfall had reseved this? Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt. 00:27, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I reserved it the day the kittypet blanks were approved. But I decided that I wanted somebody else to be able to do Rose, cuz in my opinion, doing Lily was fun. But I only had her reserved for a day or two. But Insaneular is right about her fur, it looks very green on my computer-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:10, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Bella (KP) - For Approval
Constructments? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:24, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken the stripes a little bit, and then this should be good. --  Icy -chan   ☆  17:05, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:30, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:17, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mistyfoot (Q)- For Approval
I know this is over the limit- wait, it isn't! What a miracle! LOL. Well, here is my favorite character as a pretty queen! Comments? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  15:25, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! I love the eyes. Darken the ear pink a tad.--  Night shine   ★  19:20, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I think I'm getting the hang of queens! Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:11, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think you are too! ;) Comments before approval? --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:46, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Purdy (Lo) - For Approval
*gulps* This was soo hard to copy Quiet's work! *dies* Oh well, I can improve it. Constructments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 15:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add some stripes down the legs. Maplefern Hi everyone! 16:15, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's really nice! Maybe add more shading, blur the tabby marks a little bit and do what Maple said. Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:15, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Are the changes showing? I blurred the tabby marks, added shading (oh yes I forgot to) and I added some tabby marks down the legs. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 02:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, now that there's shading, it needs to be darkened, and the two legs in the back (his left legs) need to be darker than the front two (his right legs), and also add a few more stripes to his left legs. Otherwise, this looks really good! --  Icy -chan   ☆  03:11, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this better? Are the changes showing? And thanks everyone. I thought this one was going to be a total fail. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 22:23, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sneezepaw (Ki) -For approval
Heres Sneezekit. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Just blur the shading a bit. Maplefern Hi everyone! 16:47, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thankies Maple(can I call you that?). I blurred the shading and made the background transparent cause I forgot the first time. Anything else? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 17:00, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Not that I can see; this looks awesome. Comments before approval? --  Icy -chan   ☆  12:07, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hattie (KP) - For Approval
*stares* My worst image ever by far...comments and suggestions? (Yesh! Number 35! I'm not over the limit! Yay...) --  Icy -chan   ☆  17:02, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's not worse!! I actually love it! All I see (but might no be necessary-it's just a comment) maybe make teh ear and nose a little more pinkish. Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:09, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlight did its job! Just dark the nose pink a bit, as Hidden said. Maplefern Hi everyone! 17:11, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. *sighs in relief* Okay, I'm glad it wasn't as horrible as I thought. ;) --  Icy -chan   ☆  18:41, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the nose pink the same color as the earpink. This is really good! Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:43, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made it more of a reddish-brown color, but if I made it the same color as the ear pink then it would be way too dark, so I chose the ear pink color with the colorpicker tool and then made it a lighter color of the colors in that range. (If any of that actually made sense then yay. :P) The point being: does it look any better? --  Icy -chan   ☆  19:06, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yup =) Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:08, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Gorsetail(W)- For Approval


Beautiful! Just make the ear pink and add a pupil to the eyes. Hidden -Valentine ღ  18:43, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is great =) It doesn't look anything like her queen version though... ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  18:47, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

How's this?

I redid it. *post below* Featherblaze 18:58, January 24, 2010 (UTC)Featherblaze

Reopload an image over the same name and don't make a new section each time as this is over the limit. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:00, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, this is right on the limit, as one of the sections is a disscusion. Swiftpelt 19:35, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I just merged the two sections and archived the discussion. The patches need to be more defined. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:38, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Her queen image is short-haired. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:20, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink is too bright. Would she need an alternate image since she is mentioned as a tom in TFA or just keep her a she-cat? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:01, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

hmmm She had kits for StarClan's sake! Why can't the Erins just remember that? I don't think an alternative version is appropriate unless her appearance also changes because changing the gender is just one pixel in the eye... nobody looking at her pae will really notice so we can just say in her article that she was referred to as male in TFA. That's PC though ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  18:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

But what Mousetalon pointed out is right. Her queen image is long-haired  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 18:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Sandy on the alternate version thing, but as for the actual image, I think the patches need to be more solid, and lighter, so it looks more like her queen image. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Socks (Lo) For Approval
Here's Socks! I'm still not very fond of him, but I did feel a little sorry for them when they were abandoned by their twolegs. But it did teach them a lesson, however, if I had been Scourge, I would have forgiven them and helped them. Anyway, how is he?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:32, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'd lighten the eye colour a touch. Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:35, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Better? I had to change the file name because the changes weren't showing up. Also, the highlights were kinda bugging me so I darkened them a smidge-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:48, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a touch. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 12:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I blurred it as much as I can. *stabs pixlr*-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lol. That's better. But maybe make the highlights more visable? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 22:03, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Rock - For Approval
Not much to say about this one... Constructments? -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  20:09, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! I tried making one of Rock before. Darken the ear pink a bit--  Night shine   ★  20:23, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I had been thinking, if he should really be classified as a healer, seeing as how he didn't lead or serve as medicine cat to the ancients, just did the sharpclaw tests, but image-wise, it's really the only thing he could be classified as (And it's not my place to decide anyway so just ignore my ramblings... ehehe). Anyways, I might be wrong on this, but he would still have pupils even though he's blind, right? Because if he went blind just from spending time in the darkness, he wouldn't just... lose his pupils, would he? As I said, I'm not sure, but I would have thought he'd still have them. Other than that the image is awesome though! <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:25, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think he would have a pupil too. Maybe make it gray to show that he's blind. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

If you want to see my picture of Rock go here. --  Night shine   ★  20:40, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Aksully most blind peaple/animal have a pupil like a normal person/animal so he should have a normal eye just like Jayfeather. Right? Echopaw 21:03, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Darkened the ear pink and added pupils. I always imagined Rock without them, so I guess erasing the pupils was a bit of an accident ^ ^; And Insane, Rock was was listed as a Healer on his charcat template, so I just made him one. Though I do agree that he didn't really do any Healer stuff at all. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  21:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Rock! (Glomps) For the image, smooth out the tail lineart. Also, if you can, add some wrinkles; hairless cats have many wrinkles. Finally, make his skin color more like this. It's a Sphynx cat (Also called hairless cat). (Ignore the darker patches.) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  22:47, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sasha(KP)-For approval


Im not sure about this one, it probably fails. Anyways, comments?(it's Firepelt,I have to fix my siggy because its messed up.

Not bad, just darken and blur the shading, and also, her eyes looks a bit neon blue to me, make them more neutral, like Heathertail's maybe? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:47, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Firepelt, while you fix your siggie, can you at least put something like Firepelt so that it looks like this: Firepelt and has the time shown, that way there's a link to your user page and from there we can get to your talk page. For the image itself, Insane covered almost all of it, but make the ear pink more of a reddish color, like on Rippletail's or Mossypaw. --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Snowstar (L) - For Approval


(M) - I love how he told Redscar to elect a new deputy.

..You'd think a white cat would be named Snowstar, but no.

My first time using the leader blanks. And look! I gave him fur! Which is 1337. :3

...Comments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. My. God. This is AMAZING! The only thing I could see that might be tweaked is that his ear pink is a bit faint, but seriously, that's EPIC texturing. *wishes I could do that* <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  22:39, January 25, 2010 (UTC)