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Redscar (Star) - Withdrawn
OA is David. Tweaked to change the base color. before you comment, bear in mind that: 03:01, August 24, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) It killed off the ear pink and scar, so I had to redo those.
 * 2) It killed off the shading completely, I had to redo it.
 * 3) I smudged the stripes a bit because it killed off the smudges too.

The scar looks nothing like it did before. It's far too blurred. The shading was fine as it was before; if the previous OA could do it without having to then why did this need to have all it's shading redone? And there was no reason to smudge the stripes. They're not smudged on the mc. Nubface (talk) 11:55, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

I have tweaked many images and i know what I'm doing. Changing the base color without a file is extremely difficult and it had forced me to redo the shading and the earpink, hence why I had to redo it. It also had caused the stripes become completely hard edged, and that's why I gave them a smudge, so that they won't be completely pixelized. I know what I'm doing, please don't snap at me, especially when I already listed why I had to redo those things above. .-. 12:07, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

David doesn't have the file for for this anymore, and he managed to do everything fine. I don't understand why you've had to do this?? You didn't need to touch anything except the colours. It's not hard to tweak colours. Also, please don't act so hostile towards other users for things like this. Even if you did list the reasons why, it didn't need to be changed. 12:11 Mon Aug 24

I already said, when I changed the base color, it killed off the shading and the earpink, hence why I had to redo the earpink and the shading- I tried to keep the earpink and shading, but it got killed off anyway whilst tweaking the base color. I have redone earpink and tweaked the shading on images before because tweaks had altered them- I don't see why is it not legimate to redo the shading and earpink, if the tweaks caused it to become unseeable?? I did not change the light source or style or whatsoever on this image. Also, I wasn't trying to be hostile- I was annoyed that I was accused of not knowing the guidelines when I listed the reasons why I redone the shading and earpink. 12:20, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

It's not difficult. All you need is some layers and adjust them some, whether they need colour mode or multiply or whatever. And the stripes don't become hard edged? I don't know what you're talking about. And all you have to do for earpink and the scar is draw over some slightly brighter pinks. It's been said before, if you can't tweak something without having to change basically everything, then don't. Nubface (talk) 12:23, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Changing "basically everything"? Shading and earpink are both very legimate elements of an image to tweak. If I redid the stripes, then yes, it would be a problem, the thing is, I kept the light source, I tried to match the old earpink and scar, I tried to do the shading how it had been before. And please don't talk to me as if I don't know how to tweak- I very much can, thank you. 12:30, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

And yet they still can't be smudged like that. It doesn't match the mc, so don't ignore me on that. They didn't need to be touched at all. And the scar was thicker than that, and you didn't need to completely redo the scar. The scar only needed to be slightly more pink. You can do it seperately from the pelt colour. The earpink too. And if you can't handle a little advice or whatever, then don't tweak? Don't get so bloody offended. There's no need to erase someone's work on an image because you found it too hard, when it's not. Nubface (talk) 12:36, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't ignore you, did I disagree that the stripes could be smudged less? Seriously, did I say that I disagreed with your critique? I said that I redid the shading and earpink because changing the basecolor without the file killed them off, I did not say that I disagreed with you. I am tweaking the image now, I never ignored you. 12:41, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

They need to look blurred though. That's my point. They don't match as is because they look far too smudged, unless you can get them to look blurred while still being smudged. Even though tye didn't even need to be touched.... Nubface (talk) 12:43, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Nubface, you're being extremely rude to Burnt. When you tweak an image, you ''don't have the original file anymore. That's the point of ''tweaking. It's extremely difficult for people to tweak a hard charart like this, so if Burnt listed all the things she had to change because of her not having the file anymore fine.. You don't need to make a big fuss about it >.>

As for the image, Burnt, can you define the shading on the tail a little bit? Great job ^^ Storm  &#9835;  12:59, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Either way, the earpink shouldn't be that bright pink and he shouldn't have white hairs in his ears. Darker cat = darker skin. And darker cats never have white ear hair so I have no idea why you've put that there. Also, I'd appreciate if you guys calmed down and stopped yelling at Nubfacd. As I mentioned before, David did not have the original file while doing his tweak, and he never had to touch any of this stuff. Changing the image colour doesn't 'pixelate the stripes'. It never does. I am experienced with most editing programs due to my work within graphic design, and I can damn well tell you that never happens. Don't tell me "it's because the image is smaller" either. I've worked with 50x50 images on massive canvas'. Changing the colours do not blur/pixelise images. You did not need to smudge the stripes. 13:29 Mon Aug 24

Also...why can't we just keep the one David tweaked? There were no comments on it when he withdrew it and by tthe time anyone asked about it it'd been over a day... 14:20 Mon Aug 24

Guys, enough, please. This is just a pixel image and seriously? @Berry: It pixelized all the stripes while I was changing the base color- hence why I smudged it, as I explained earlier, I tweaked it, I would know. And if you are asking me to remove the earfur, please don't go like "I have no idea why you put that there" and just tell me to remove it. I said I was in the middle of tweaking this image and can we all calm down? @Storm: Thank you- although I don't believe Nubface was being rude in either way. @All: Seriously, I'm in the middle of trying to fix this and there is no need to go screaming at my tweaking. 14:25, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I removed the earfur, and tried to get it to match better. @Berry: Are you telling me that my version is bad or are you simply trying to get this declined? >.> 14:34, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I suggest an idea that's easier than an argument and I'm either telling you you're bad at tweaking or trying to decline it. Of course. No. I just want to get this damn argument over with; it'd be easier and I honestly don't understand why we can't keep David's tweaked version.

But no. I am a mean older user and want this declined. Of course. 14:40 Mon Aug 24

Can we please stop squabbling like 8 year olds? This was nominated for a tweak nomination, and so Burntclaw did it, but Burntclaw, I really don't see any reason why you needed to smudge the stripes. Could you just put that back to how it was originally and see how it looks? Then we'll give you comments what to do from there. 17:10, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Burnt, how did you change the base color? If you need an easier method that hopefully doesn't alter the stripes, I can give you some suggestions.

Skye, could you tell me what colors you used for the layers? :) 03:12, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Here's an unshaded picture of the head. The base is Pinestar's coloring, actually. I color picked from the file.

Still working? 22:44, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Withdrawn, this image is just causing WAY too much arguments and it's not worth it >.> 11:04, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

I'll take over. 11:39 Mon Aug 31

Um, only warriors and above can take over. Could you rejoin or something before taking tweaked images? 12:41, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

I've been voting and posting images for like a week; I was never removed until like. Right now. I requested to be removed temporarily but it never happened. I'm still on the reservation table and was on the members table til like. Two seconds ago. 13:23 Mon Aug 31

Tbh, someone should have removed you after you requested to leave but it was never done. So yeah technically you are out of the project. Regardless though, this isn't really a big deal and whatever about what I just said. 13:30, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Still though, I think you should formally announce that you are back in the project before you claim tweaks. 13:31, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Feathertail (Ki) ~ Redone
she is smol. OAs were stoner and mounty 04:37 Sat Aug 29

Lighten the shading on the ===> side of the ===> leg. I cannot see the stripes under it. This is cute by the way. 22:44, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Feathertail (Star) - Redone
ok round two, OA was scarletwind. 00:34 Sun Aug 30

Can you lighten the chest shading? This looks awesome 00:36, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded, also defined the stripes some. 01:02 Sun Aug 30

I think there should be two clear stripes on her neck-chest area, according to the warrior and apprentice versions. This is nice, btw

Oh and, mind if you tell me which side is the light source coming from? I'm seeing it at the right on the tail, but from left on the head and one of the paws...

reuploaded. thanks! is this better? 01:54 Mon Aug 31

Yep! Would you mind to fix the shading a tiiiny bit for these parts if you get it?

The paws are contracting the light source. Either switch that around or change your light source. 11:58, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Can you lighten the shading all around? And maybe define the stripes on her back? 14:33, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Sweetpaw (Ki) - Tweaked
tweaked for defined shading. OAs consist of nightshine, rainlegs, and cloudy. 00:53 Sun Aug 30

Lighten the shading. 00:54, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

Brighten the white, it's looking a little gray. 00:55, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded 01:57 Mon Aug 31

Are you using pure white? I strongly suggest so, as it's looking like she's a pale tort. 02:01, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Her white looks fine. 06:07, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but I disagree with you, Icy. If she doesn't tweak it now, someone else will. White should be white, not pale gray. She's looking like she has a gray base (Like Stormkit has.