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Unknown residence blanks - for approval
Bam. thanks so much guys i appreciate it :3 13:55, 3/25/2019

can you shrink the blanks? they look awfully big compared to the rest. 15:08, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

I think the ears need to be smaller (height-wise) and possibly rounder. 16:47, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

I like these Winter, but can you shorten the noses a bit? By two pixels? 22:09, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

Can't pretend to be any expert in cat anatomy, but should the tail but arched over the back for balance? 23:11, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

The nose looks fine imo Malina457 (talk) 15:59, March 26, 2019 (UTC)malina

The tail on the shorthair should taper out towards the tip. Also, there's a stray pixel to the right of the shorthair's chin  16:02, March 26, 2019 (UTC)

Is it possible to remove the third and fourth line on the front leg farthest from us? Right now, it looks the like the cats have six toes. I suck at anatomy so you don't nescessarily have to do it. :) 23:35, March 26, 2019 (UTC)

Thats the dew claw though? Also yeah the noses are fine. If i shorten them itll look weird. Also no the tail was like that in the ref i used. Im caught on mobile rn and will work on fixing the issues tomorrow 00:08, 3/27/2019

Paw looks fine too Malina457 (talk) 00:26, March 27, 2019 (UTC)malina

i think the issue that potato was talking about regarding the nose is that the entire face is exaggerated to be slightly wider as a part of a style. im not sure if blanks are allowed to be stylized this way, but if it is necessary for it to be anatomically correct i believe that [https://images.unsplash.com/photo-1518791841217-8f162f1e1131?ixlib=rb-1.2.1&ixid=eyJhcHBfaWQiOjEyMDd9&w=1000&q=80 the muzzle should be rounded (and shortened), as well as the nose. i also think that the eyes should be shrunken as they shouldnt take up such a huge proportion of the face]. 00:50, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

Pale she-cat (ToEH) ~ CBA
so I used an OC for this; lowkey made her an albino cat.  Ellie  life is an illusion 14:18, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the haunch and arm? 15:22, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

Not sure if this is the tint or not.. but she barely looks white on my screen. Maybe try changing the shading tint or lighten the texture. This is your preference, so you don't have to do it. Expanding on to Patch's comment, the shading needs to be smoothed everywhere actually. 22:00, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

The character's described as "pale", meaning that the colour won't necessarily be white but just a lighter colour (so pale grey works fine). 22:57 Wed Mar 27 2019

The shading looks smooth everywhere but the haunch and arm, so could I get a second coz if I smooth those already smoothed parts more I'll have tod efine the depth and that'll just be repeating the process.  Ellie  life is an illusion 23:00, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

yeah i agree with mink that the shading is fine except for on the haunch 00:07, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

I actually agree with Potato that it could use some smoothing out pretty much everywhere. The face and haunch especially. ​

Re-Ups, tried to smooth as best i could lol hopefully this is good?  Ellie  life is an illusion 17:25, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the haunch a little bit more, especially on the top and bottom of it (where it connects with the tail and the arm). ​​​​​

Re-Ups  Ellie  life is an illusion 17:30, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

There's some waste outside the shoulder area. 17:32, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

I'll re-up on waste when this gets a comment/cba, I askes about and the one I asked said thaf was fine.  Ellie  life is an illusion 00:52, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 13:04, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Pad (ki) - For Evaluation
did i name this rightWillowstep12 (talk) 15:43, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

am i allowed to do this?Willowstep12 (talk) 15:45, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

I'm honestly not sure given that this is a blank redo. As one of Broken's images, would this count as an original technically?

...sorry i did not knowWillowstep12 (talk) 15:54, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

Were...were kits even decided to be done yet? I don't recall a verdict being reached.

19:45, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

Kits will be done next month. However, this can be converted a to minor character (like a tortie kit) if you make it look like one Willow. For now, it doesn't appear you saved the image correctly, as this is a thumbnail. Click the image on the main page, click the file name, then right click and click "Save as" and name it, for example, TPB-kit-2 and the .png will stick on the end. It doesn't appear you are using layers as the colors are leaking past the lineart. See Apprentice Tutorials. Add shading to the front leg, face, and tail. The remaining shading needs to be blended. You can try the Smudge tool (10 pixels at 40 percent is best.) Make sure to take you time! 22:00, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

The lines seem to be somewhat blurry, similar to what Greenflower said. Also, maybe add some depth to the eyes as well as shines? -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  01:11, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

i will try, its my first charartWillowstep12 (talk) 18:21, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

where should i place the shadingWillowstep12 (talk) 19:16, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

There should be a tutorial on light sources in the Apprentice Tutorials. 22:08, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks will check  that out will update image on mondayWillowstep12 (talk) 18:46, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

re uploaded how did i do with the shadingWillowstep12 (talk) 12:45, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

De-thumb the image by going into source mode and removing the |left|. 13:02, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I removed the thumb tag from the image. Other than that could you define and extend the shading - I believe it's coming from the back but it's hard to see. Also I think there needs to be shading on the head, paws and tail. 15:27, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

re uploaded added the shadingWillowstep12 (talk) 16:45, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Remember to not thumb your images. If you're unsure how to get rid of it, remove the thumb from this and that'll fix it. Add shading onto the tail and all the legs and paws, and add some to the side of the head too. Line art appears to be missing as well, can you fix that? 16:52, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

This needs to be named File:Pad.kit.png, or it won't work with the wiki's templates. Also, you shouldn't be doing this on one layer, because if you do that, lineart can be erased. Have you tried using multiple layers? If so, you should get into a habit of doing that. 22:09, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I am using mumble layers  but I flatten the image to blend and shadeWillowstep12 (talk) 00:45, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

re uploaded fixed it i thinkWillowstep12 (talk) 12:45, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Don't thumb the image. That messes up the structure of the page. Also, I don't think we're starting kits yet.. 12:58, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

should i remove this sectionWillowstep12 (talk) 13:05, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

ShadowClan Tortoiseshell - CBA
I'll fix the shading next upload but for now, here it is. This is not the scrawny tortoiseshell - it is a different cat. 17:02, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

I've just realised I made the legs a different colour to the chest I'll be fixing that too. 17:03, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth those dark patches?  Ellie  life is an illusion 17:16, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the line of shading on the right foreleg? It also looks like the shading might be leaking away from the lineart on that leg as well. 22:56, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

Define the ear and tail shading. 23:54, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

Rules around which colors are actually considered "tortie" in the eyes of pca are really lax and unspecific, but tbh gray and black isn't actually a tortie. Any chance of you adding some ginger or cream in there somewhere?

im sorry but im going to have to disagree with you. A tortoiseshell can be one of many different styles and colors, and this is acceptable in my eyes. It's a chocolate tort. I believe we should bring up another vote on this matter and do the same as the tabby ruling, in which any tortoiseshell, unless specifically stated as black-and-ginger w/white can be whatever color tort you want to make it. Because there's chocolate torts, torbies, blue torts, dilute torts, etc 11:45, 3/30/2019

No worries, it was just a suggestion. I do know there's lots of different torties, it's just that black and (what I believed to be) gray just isn't one of them, so I thought adding red or cream might be nice. You're totally free to keep the color as is though.

Oh whoops I got confused who was the OA lol. Well it's up to finch then, artist's choice.

They were meant to be a chocolate tortie but I definitely should add some ginger. I'll upload soon. 14:45, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I've tweaked the shading, added ginger and the darker patches. Let me know if I need darker ginger. 15:13, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Sharpened the shading - not sure if it fits though. 15:36, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

This is nifty as heck. CBA?

Birdsong (E) - For Approval
I'm so proud of this, also dont worry ill get to the blanks soon. just taking a small break from that <span style="">11:31, 3/30/2019

It's alright Winter! With blanks, there's no limit. Add shading depth to the image. 12:26, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

reups there was already shading depth, but i just made it darker <span style="">14:48, 3/30/2019

Would you object to adding a bit more white, since she's explicitly called "tabby-and-white", alongside her white belly cite? I had to double-check to see what white she did have, since your light source hides most of it. I'm not saying you need to change the shading or anything of the sort, just perhaps add a patch or two more of white in other places as well. ​​​​

Could you define the shading a bit more on the front paws? 15:22, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Bluestar (Alt. Star 4) ~ For Approval
Since the pale is now considered a mistake, I believe she'd get this. Comment? 16:38, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

Wait doesn't PCA usually just rename the current images in cases where the old main description becomes an alt? Like with longtail and mapleshade? Or is it more of a case-by-case kind of thing?

Unless she was called multiple times (I think.)  Smooth out the belly shading where it touches the tail and maybe define the light on the chest? 18:40, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm... that pale was when she was a glowy StarClan cat. Not entirely sure it's warranted

Reuploaded. 19:52, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

i suppose it'll be up for discussion but no harm in CBAing now

Wait what is this alt for exactly? If it's for her ravenpaw's path appearance, she should be a lot more blue, and maybe a smidge darker depending on how it looks once she's more saturated. She'd also need to use the shorthair blank, and there's no pale markings on her tail.

If it's for some other appearance than the cite should really be added to her page.

Actually, it's for being called just pale in The Sight. 15:29, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

isnt there already a pale image tho? the one that was previously her starclan image. 05:35, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Smokefoot (E) ~For Approval
Shading is hard.

01:26, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to say this, but define it more. I have to zoom in close to see it. I also think there's an unfilled pixel on the tail? 01:43, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add depth to the ear pink? It seems a bit flat. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 03:35, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

06:06, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Shading could still use defining

Reuploaded

19:44, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. 22:09, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:03, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

graystripe (e) ~ for approval
everyone's favourite elder -- 08:07, 3/31/2019

The shading looks flat. Could you expand it?

Completely optional but maybe thicken the shaggy fur lineart by 2 pixels or so? 12:33, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

reups heckie -- 12:44, 3/31/2019

can you expand and then smooth out the shading? 13:38, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Add some shading to the stomach area? 15:24, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

reups hm burnt could you specify where i should expand it? -- 07:45, 4/01/2019

Looking at it, it should be expanded everywhere

Yellowfang (E)- CBA
one of my fav characters before she was ruined by the recent series. 13:37, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

I think there is one scar that goes on her chest (judging by the StarClan). Just slightly. 16:42, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

that one is still on her shoulder. it doesnt go to the chest. even then it would be blocked out by perspective i believe 01:14, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

honestly it looks fine. CBA?

Archeye (E) ~ CBA
His star was one of my first images so this guy always has a special place in my heart 16:14, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps lighten the shading a tad? It's your choice ;) 16:20, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Lightened it a little. 02:56, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 19:36, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Moss (KP) (KP)- For Evaluation
Comment Away!-- 18:54, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Looking good! Her muzzle looks a bit bright compared to the rest of her set, so darken it up a bit. Expand the shading everywhere, but particularly on the hind legs. 19:14, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Egg! I colorpicked off the loner, not sure why it looks brighter. Will fix momentarily. 19:45, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't want to expand it anymore on the tail, or I'll be told to define the light. 19:54, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe smoothen out and blur the shading more? -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  22:35, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Of course! I'll do that in a little bit. 22:39, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Shadow, can you be more specific on where it needs to be smoothed out? 22:52, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

The shading on the back of the haunch and shoulder! -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  22:58, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Can you expand it more on the <--- haunch and stomach? The shading is also leaking on the collar. Also, I feel like the shading tint clashes with the color of the image. Maybe make it darker? 23:14, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Vec, where is it leaking on the collar? And can I gently ask for a second opinion on the tint? Silverfur used a similar color on Flailfoot's tunneler. 23:37, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded for other commments 23:48, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Darken and define the shading. I can't see it at all. ​​

red line. And the tint is darker on Flailfoot's tunneler since it was tweaked. Darkening the tint might also help with darkening the shading overall, forgot to mention earlier ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 02:59, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

i appreciate you mentioning me ^^ could i ask what's the black specks near the rear leg? -- 11:34, 4/01/2019

To explain comments:

Vec: It isn't leaking, it's just light shading. I'll fix it next upload.

Silver: That's a layer goof, fix next upload.

Jayce: I'll saturate the shading a bit, but like 2 clicks or so otherwise it'll look neon. 22:06, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded here's your proof shading isn't leaking. Better? 23:06, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Could you make the shading a bit darker? I can't really see it. 23:09, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, I didn't say you had to saturate the shading. I couldn't see it, meaning it should probably have the opacity turned up. The tint itself is perfectly fine as-is, and you're right that multiple people have used that tint before. ​​​

Reuploaded sorry, got confused with your's and Vec's comment. Anywho, I don't want to darken it much more or the lineart won't be noticeable anymore. Better? 23:31, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

The shading is leaking on the ears, belly, tail, legs and back ^^  -Shadow   It's a prosthetic  23:36, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I think with the source I'm using, there shouldn't be shading on the back. Shadow, can you screenshot where? 00:11, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Looks like you've got waste all over the image. 01:46, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

I don't think there is any waste on my screen in PS, but this may be a result of blurring the shading and I'll check tomorrow. 02:09, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded you were right, and there was waste. If it is still showing up, I'll wave the eraser in those areas tomorrow. 02:32, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

going to nitpick on the shading as it's really light and makes the image odd. it can be tweaked by making the layer mutiply and making the tint a darker blue. -- 04:46, 4/02/2019

Whiskernose (E) - CBA
The elder and the apprentice's fur didn't match, so I went ahead and matched to the apprentice since it's the only remaining in the set  19:35, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth the edge of the shading, its a bit too hardedged. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion

reup a smooth boy 22:30, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 19:37, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Whitetail (WC) (E) - CBA
19:35, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

can you define the shading ont he tail? 05:07, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

reup  22:42, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Misty Water (E) - CBA
Very happy with this shading, which I got inspiration from/the source from Snow Hare's image. 19:40, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

perhaps make her duller?

The pelt color is fine, the context reveals that Misty Water was intentionally refusing prey and it was because of that her pelt looked dull. It's not a representation of an actual description and falls under the "sickness" category. ​​​​​​​

CBA? 23:10, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I’d just like to pop in and say that this is actually intentionally dull for me; I always have highlights and I didn’t add them this time so it would be duller. 23:24, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Tallpoppy (E) ~ CBA
i tried keeping as much of the original pattern as i could. 01:11, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on all the legs. 01:21, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Don't yell at me, but this doesn't look like a tabby. I know you're only matching the pattern, but it doesn't look tabby like to me Malina457 (talk) 02:33, April 1, 2019 (UTC)Malina

The tabby stripes are fine, and this pattern has existed for years with no problems. ​​​​​​​

Re-uploaded. she just fancy. 04:02, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

would you mind adding some shading depth? 05:07, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 05:15, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Mousefang (E) - CBA
I have no idea. ​​​​​​​

Shes so pretty, can you define the shading please? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 00:55, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Also fiddled with the highlights on this, because she was looking darker than her other images.

CBA?

Goldenflower (E) - CBA
my queen <3 07:51 Mon Apr 1 2019

CBA?

Rosetail (E) ~ For Approval
back and ready for the elder rush

15:00, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Did you fill in the nose? It's either not filled in or is a very light color. Define/Darken it. 22:11, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

The nose is filled in and doesn’t need defining. ​​​​

Quiet Rain (E) - CBA
not gonna lie but this was a low effort image 15:28, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Longtail (e) ~ For Approval
his stripe pattern is annoyingly spacy but ya' know. 15:34, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Would you object to softening the stripes every so slightly? These are a tiny bit sharper than his other images. It's not a lot, and I apologize if this is insanely picky.

Mothwing (E) ~ For Approval


Could you blend the tail stripes more into the fur? They seem rather flat now  22:35, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded

One-eye (E) ~ For Approval
She... -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  17:46, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Her eye should be cloudy, to match her queen. 22:05, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

She has already lost her eye at this point, so she shouldn't match the queen  22:35, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure the light source. It looks like its coming frkm two different ways. Could you fix that? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 00:53, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Add more shading inside the missing eye socket. Right now it looks more like she has a really big cherry eye 04:26, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Speckletail (E) ~ For Approval
I think I can do this now?? My username has never been more accurate... ;w;  00:32, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Expand the shading on the haunch and tail a tad. Hoo-boy, this is gorgeous! 00:38, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Hm, I think the shading on the tail is good, but could you define the shading in the ears? They're a 3D object, so there's bound to be SOME kind of shading there. Also, could you please reupload under File:Speckletail.elder.png? Our templates are case-sensitive. ​​​​

Re-Uploaded! 10:08, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

This is great! Could you lighten the shading under her chin and on her paws? It's darker than the rest and looks off. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 12:01, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Imo, it looks like shading depth, I think it looks fine Malina457 (talk) 17:39, April 2, 2019 (UTC)malina

Bloomheart (E) - For Approval
all colors pulled form his old elder image 00:41, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Voletooth (E) ~ For Approval
Oof 01:15, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Poppydawn (E) - For Approval
pulled colors from her starclanner 01:21, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Theres waste by the mouth, lovely! Malina457 (talk) 02:26, April 2, 2019 (UTC)malina

Re-uploaded 04:12, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Poppydawn (Alt. E)- For Evaluation
Comments? Also, does Scarlet has to match my lineart or do I have to match hers?-- 02:22, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Scarlet posted hers first, therefore you need to use hers, not the other way around. I saw that message to Scarlet and you are mistaken. ​

It's fine, I thought whoever reserved her first would use her lineart, then. I'll ask her to email it to me, and then I'll fix things later. 02:34, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Nope, it's whoever gets it posted to the approval page first. The only time that doesn't apply is when it's discussed first via the people involved in the images.

Cinderfur (E) - For Approval
Haven't done one of these in too long Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 02:47, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and paws? 12:05, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Ginger WindClan warrior (W) - For Approval
Hmm. Might go fiddle with the smudging on those stripes.