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Wind (Q) ~ For Approval
Finally snagged a queen :P Comments? 19:27, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear-pink a little bit Leaf-storm,19:28,October 15,2011 (UTC)

I'll wait for a second opinion on that, since I used the ear pink color from her images. 19:31, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well, at least lighting the shading on the belly. Darkfangstorm Vampire time!   Might bite underneath the moonlight  19:34, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the earpink, and blur the shading some more. 19:38, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tail shading a little. 23:11, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten all the shading. Add depth to the eye. 23:12, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

There is a lighter color pixel on the left front paw, blur the shading.  Owl   X    G    l    itt    er   4LIFE..    The colors of fall 23:35, October 15, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded  12:10, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Wind's eyes in her leader charart have a ring of orange in them, which I think makes her stand out in an interesting way. I think you should try to match that. 17:04, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''You'll have to zoom in to see it. 20:31, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

The orange was on the outer part, and it was a bold orange... sorry, poking at it. 01:39, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Blur the ear-pink a tad. 19:24, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes aren't showing yet 20:35, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 20:35, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Why should I blur it more? I think it seems fine. 20:38, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

No, you will blur the shading more if a more experienced member tells you to. I agree. It needs to have a nice, smooth transition between the lighting planes and blurring it makes this transition looks natural. I know that you're liscensed to have your artistic creativity, but as another fellow artist, I can see that it needs blurred. 21:07, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Even though it seems I didn't blur it, I did. 23:03, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the nose. Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 20:14, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Should I make it more to the color of her ears or just darken it in general? 20:16, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's supposed to be the same as the ear pink.<font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 20:17, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes are showing. 21:14, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Making a small bump. 20:05, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

The nose is supposed to be the same as the ear-pink, as long as it's not a black cat or anything, which this clearly isn't. Any way, blur and lighten the shading right next to the front arm closes to use. Darkfangstorm Vampire time! [ 20:09, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading along her back. 20:45, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink and nose color are the same Dark. I took the color from the middle of her ear. And I'll get to it Speckle. 20:55, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ok the changes aren't showing. Shading the back is tough D: 21:19, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights to the tail and blur the shading. 22:31, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Highlights aren't needed. Make the pupil skinner. 00:13, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be some white in the eye as well? 16:29, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I'll work on this soon. And there is Shadewing. 20:04, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like there is a black square in her eye........Otherwise nice job! <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">Star <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">shine <font color="Silver">☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 23:27, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay the shading looks too dark so that parts of the pelt looks brown. Also blur and smudge the ear pink. 00:17, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear oink and define the shading on the tail. 01:11, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded The shading on this is making me angry ._. I'll live x3. 12:46, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more and this will be ready. 22:16, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Safe to say I'm satisfied with the shading for once ^^. 23:01, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

The eye away from us needs a white dot or summin. Otherwise I think it looks good. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 00:48, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 10:32, October 25, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur the ear-pink. 13:48, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  20:51, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading. <span style="">00:26 Wed Oct 26

Reuploaded -- 11:26, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading. Darkfangstorm Vampire time!  18:48, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot what defien means x_x Sorry for the blonde moment. 20:25, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading easier to see. =) 20:45, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  11:00, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the stomach near the front foot needs to be lightened please. :3 . 22:05, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back and face. 10:56, October 28, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded Blurred it, but it doens't look like it D: -- 12:02, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

It may be me, but I am kind of confused with your light source. You have the lighter shading on this side of the head <--- but on the body, you seem to have the light source coming from directly in front. O.o 22:20, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make it a bit larger. 01:53, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did as you said Squirrel. I'm used to shading that way, and I used one of the shading styles to shade it. 19:11, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading on the belly some more? 00:16, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I made it worse ._. 11:12, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Just blur it some more..

However, it looks odd to me because the light source seems to be coming at two angles. I'd say that you should move the light source on the head to our right a little. Someone can correct me if they think it looks fine. 22:20, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

No, i'm with you atelda, it does look odd. Rain face &lt;3 01:05, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Correct Atelda. Also lighten the shading on the belly and make it somewhat smaller. Great job! 02:05, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

You don't need to say she's correct again. Rainface already did, it's unnessesary. Blur the belly shading some more. -- 20:29, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Back now, and did everything else asked :3  12:21, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and brighten it. <span style="">19:54 Sat Nov 5

Also darken the shading and smudge the ear pink alot. !!!!

Reuploaded  13:05, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the face needs to be lightened. 20:21, November 7, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Actually I belive that all of the shading needs to be lightened. Very nice! 01:56, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blend the shading a little better. Argh, this must be an awkward color to work with... 02:11, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Will work on this soon. It is Cloud @_@  22:16, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Also on the haunch, the lighter spot looks too triangular. Can you make it more round? 02:53, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Mind blurring the shading on the face and on the back, the shading needs to be blurred, and there is a part along the back near the lineart where the shading cuts off a bit. Can you make it go all way way to the lineart please? Looks amazing. :) . 04:27, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I've taken over this image. Comments? 00:42, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

If you use highlights, tone them down a bit. If not, tone down the shading, blend it out more. 01:27, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Try and match the color of the leader image more. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:50, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 02:15, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the ear pink and the hightlights. Much too bright. 03:25, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think she is using highlights...Sandstorm...although I may be wrong-- Anyway, the shading on the belly near the foot is too dark...lighten it please? :) . 04:41, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Leafstar (Alt. Q) ~ For Approval
*shivers in disgust* This is disgusting :S she looks like a chipmunk with a nut in its mouth :| my least fave charart i've ever made. 15:21, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes match the ones like in my image. 15:23, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

The brown patch on the far side of her face needs to extend all the way to the end. Make the stripes on her face go up and down and define them. You smudged the lineart on top of where her arms are. Add more stripes to her patches. 15:24, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

OK how do I make the stripes match teh other image and where is the smudged lineart. Would you mind showing me I don't see it. Also I'm trying to match them so the only place I see that needs more stripes is teh haunch. And seriously does she not look like a chipmunk with a nut in her mouth? LOL REUPLOADED 15:31, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 15:36, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED hehehe this is so creepy... 15:43, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on the haunch more. Darkfangstorm Vampire time!  18:56, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the patches and make the stripes match on all of the patches. 20:25, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Seperate the patches on her back. Look at her background picture on The Rescue and you can see they are seperated, plus if you have the book she's seen laying down frequently, so you can use that for help as well. The patches on her face wouldn't come down so far. Again, looking at how she looks in the manga should help, if you don't have it look at Harper Collins Browse Inside, it's free and I believe the first page she is on she is shown laying down. 23:07, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

I like this MUCH better now. REUPLOADED. She's growing on me :) 11:36, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes still look a little off. If you need help, ask Stoneclaw. She may be able to give you advice on how to make the stripes like hers. 14:37, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think you might have smudged/blurred the nose because it looks huge xD 15:30, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

The whole face lineart looks funny. Could you paste a new lineart over it? I could do it if you need help. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  18:42, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 21:05, October 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Could you help me Paleh? 11:18, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the patch on the belly/chest area too. 21:32, October 28, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded - Kay, fixed all the lineart. :) Had to redo the eyes, but I tried not to touch anything else. If you need help with anything else, fell free to ask. ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  22:18, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Try to fix the stripes.. They look irreuglar, since they are a bit too thick. Try to match the ones on Stoneclaws image ^-^

Gh ou  lp  eb  bl  e! '''Trick? Or Treat?'''  01:43, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the back paw and darken the shading a touch. 02:29, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading specifically on the cream and blur the tail stripes. 20:16, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink, add either a highlight or shading on the haunch, and blur the place where brown meets crem on the back left leg. 23:52, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular as well. 10:34, October 31, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Darken the overall shading and define the highlights if there are any. DJCandyBud 03:55, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED O_O moooo 13:08, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to match her alt leader more 00:53, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, um. If I did it wouldn't match, er the manga. And that SERIOUSLY bothers me...if I have people seconding this I guess i'll hafta live with it but can you explain how to make them match cuz I had trouble before and that's why I switched them to match the manga in the first place. 11:13, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

They need to match Stoneclaw's version, not the manga. We're not allowed to copy the exact pelt style of a character from the Warriors books because those images are copyrighted. If you're that confused, then ask Stoneclaw for help, as she's the one who made the leader image. The two cannot be different. 18:16, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

LOL I was just about to reupload it XD anyways REUPLOADED  18:29, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken and smoothen the stripes. 20:26, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular, more pink, and blur it. 20:54, November 3, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The earpink is triangular, and I will not make it more pink because I copied it from the leader alt. And if I blur it any more than it is it'll blur the lineart. I'll do the stripes later. 11:29, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes match the ones on my image, and the earpink is not the same. 17:54, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe working from the comic instead of the alt leader image would help? Just a suggestion That way you could see her stripe pattern from different angles. 18:51, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and I also agree with Shellheart. 22:49, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly, she can't use the one from the "manga", because the stripes aren't the same. We're not supposed to match the designs 100%, because those images are copyrighted from HarperCollins. It also says that in the guidelines. 02:59, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I meant she could use it as a reference, Cloudy. >.> I know the copyright laws, and you know I do. But we agreed to try to match the images the alts come from as closely as possible, didn't we? I thought it may be helpful for her if she saw the stripes on Leafstar in the "manga" from multiple angles, as that helps me when I'm trying to draw things. But if that won't match the alt leader, then you're right. 15:23, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the tabby stripes still look odd. Maybe do something about that. If someone disagrees with me, then forget this post Rain  face &lt;3 20:19, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Agreeed, Rainface. They just don't... match? They look off. By whatever method you use, make them match the image (the manga, the other approved pixel, doesn't matter a whit to me) and it'll look a lot better. <span style="">20:31 Mon Nov 7

Ok can someone help me? I've been trying to fix these stripes and they are driving me CRAZY!!! So yeah...oh and I never work on it for the weekends-Monday because I have stuff...thanks :) 12:02, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I might be able to help you. Unless a more experienced user wants to... 17:15, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

You can help Loudsplash, but Loudy, if you are unable to work/post this very much, don't you think that that might be a little unfair? I can understand if you pushed the time limit once due to something, but on a constant basis? I'm not saying you can't d this image, but, just think about it. 17:35, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Loudsplash, you've had help on every image you've done. No offense, but I really think you should try and do this one yourself. Sorry, but this is how I see it. You're not going to improve if people help you with everything. I understand that this project is to improve character images, but it doesn't sit right with me. 17:46, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Cloudy. You're gonna have to put some more effort into this if you want it approved. If you think it's too hard, withdraw it and let someone else finish it. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 03:34, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

if you choose not to withdraw, make all the stripes inside patches the same size. . 04:28, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED mk I blurred the white shading 'cause it was bothering me and then I once again redid the stripes on the haunch :\ 13:03, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks blotchy. I suggest you re-do the shading again, but if you don't, then maybe lighten the highlights a bit, and blur it more. -- 13:22, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't use highlights. 14:21, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the haunch goes way too into the middle; Mabye look at one of the shading guidelines for a queen blank if your not too sure how far it can go out--unless it was a mistake, then I would understand better. :) . 02:17, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Talon Alt. (CG) ~ For Approval
Well, he was described like this in Cats of the Clans, so here he is.. I am strangely attracted to alternates.. ._. Fail tabby/Cave Guard xD  Gh  ou  lp  eb  bl  e! '''Trick? Or Treat?'''  02:33, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps thicken the tabby markings (optional) and I'd smudge the mud in all directions. Also, blur where the white meets with the light brown and perhaps make it whiter... Awesome! 02:39, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Does he have a white chest? Cause this seems to be going off into his shoulder. xD (Correct me if wrong. )<font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="blue" >Sky- VoldemortxMcGonagall <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="cyan"> ftw! 02:42, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Made the heading say 'for approval'. Blur the lighter chest a little more, and there is a bunch of waste between the two front paws. Good job! 15:41, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

There's actually a lot of waste all over the image. 18:52, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yeah, I was doing this really quickly, so that's why its all messed up. xD Hopefully I got rid of all the waste, made the chest more white (shading caused it to go tannish xD), blurred the mud and the whites going off his shoulder?? Shoot.. Dx Oh, and changes are not showing...  Gh  ou  lp  eb  bl  e! '''Trick? Or Treat?'''  19:32, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... he has a white chest. Your white only covers less than half of his chest. Look at a leader image with a white chest or something. It goes down to the middle of where their front legs meet. 19:35, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the muzzle counts as the chest, correct me if I'm wrong, because it's white too. 23:57, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

In Cats of the Clan, he is shown with a white muzzle. I added it to his trivia on his page btw. ;) 00:06, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There, is that any good? :3  Gh  ou  lp  eb  bl  e! '''Trick? Or Treat?'''  00:13, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks Atelda! And smudge/blur the mud a bit more. 00:37, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading just a tiny bit, and do as Sweetflower suggested. This is neat! 00:53, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened and blurred the mud. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   01:16, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a tad. I can barley see it. 16:29, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the white and blur it. <span style="">20:06 Sat Nov 5

Reuploaded Brightened the earpink and fixed the chest. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   22:49, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

I still think the white on the chest needs to be extanded and slightly darken the shading if you will. 22:56, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Also lighten the white a lot and smudge the mud. <span style="">23:01 Sat Nov 5

Try and match the picture in CotC better, make the stripes fainter on the back, add a dark tail tip, and add a white part around his eyes. Here's a ref if you don't already have one. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  00:50, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened/extended the white a bit more, smudged the mud, darkened the shading a tad, added the white part around the eyes and made it look a bit more like the picture in CotC. And thanks for the image, Paleclaw, I had to keep on looking in the book since I couldn't find one online x3 M is    t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   13:45, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is great! Smudge the white chest a bit, it'll look more coolio. -- 15:28, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Smudged the chest a bit. :3 M is    t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   15:48, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge and blur the white, mainly on the face, smudge the mud more, and define the shading, especially on the white parts. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  18:31, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Smudged and blurred the white (had to fix it a bit, since it looked a bit weird when I tried to smudge/blur it Dx), smudged the mud and defined the shading on the white. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   21:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Try to connect the white parts together. Very nice! 23:38, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

They're not connected in the picture, Sandstorm. Can you blur the white a little more? 23:45, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/smudged the mud more. This looks pretty good to me though. Rain face &lt;3 20:22, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred and smudged the mud, and blurred the white. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   20:53, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Whiten the white more and blur the left side of it. Darken the shading. <span style="">20:59 Mon Nov 7

Reuploaded Whitened the white more and blurred the left side of it and darkened the shading. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   22:17, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading specifically on the white :3 -- 00:12, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and less trianglely 01:59, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the shading and fixed the earpink. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   03:29, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading on the front legs and paws just a little. 17:14, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded Lightened the shading. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   22:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Lighten the face shading a lot, too. <span style="">00:04 Wed Nov 9

Reuploaded Lightened the face shading. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   02:57, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading and define the mud streaks on the shadowed side. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 03:37, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with Scarletwind, lighten it alot, it looks much too dark. Other than that, I'm stunned. It's wonderful. :) . 04:31, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened the shading and defined the mud streaks. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   02:07, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the ear pink. Looks like the is a highlight right there. Very nice! 03:27, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

He looks extremely dark for being depicted as, " a light brown tabby tom". Just dodge the whole image a few times. Also, perhaps smudge a bit of white vertically up, somewhat like File:Silverstream.queen.alt.png. And it could be just my opinion, but I think it would look much more natural, if the white was farther down, and have a break in between the muzzle and chest. Looks great so far though! 03:32, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Stonefur (Alt.D) ~ For Approval
I really hate the shading and the ear pink. >_< Comments? 20:33, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the ear pink tons. Make the ear pink smaller and center it as well. 20:38, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I knew that would happen. But I still dont like it and I blured over it a bunch... 22:12, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink color less neon/bright. Dull it. 22:32, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tryed to dullen it but I ended up darkening it....I had now idea how do dull it to be truthful... 22:44, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Give the eye some depth, not just one flat color. Blur the shading more, add some between the foreleg and haunch, and have less on the tail. 22:46, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 22:57, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I thought the shading was funny. And I did my best with the depth. Looks better now! 23:02, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink. <span style="">23:03 Sat Nov 5

Blur the shading a lot and thicken it. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:42, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs major blurring, fix that. 00:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the heading for you. Anyway, redo the shading so it conforms to the contours of his body and add depth to his eye, maybe change the color to match that image, which is where the alt came from. You might want to tone down you highlights, too. 01:00, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re-did the hole thing and I added the depth as much as I could. Comments? 01:43, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Shading still needs to be blurred a lot. 03:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured and blured but it doesn't look to different. Sorry you guys... 03:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I believe this needs to be renamed Stonefur.deputy.alt.png 03:48, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Want a really useful tip for blurring the shading so it looks natural? Take your blur tool, set it on "60", then blur the edges of the shading with a small brush, then get a slightly larger brush, use the blur tool, set it on "100", then blur where you smudged. You may have to do it more than once, but once it looks natural, then you're good to go! 05:13, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the earpink, and make it more triangular. 13:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded @Twilightheart I tryed but it just ended up with spaces and @ Shadewing I don't really know how to dullen the ear pink but...well I tryed! 16:22, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can help you if you want. 16:27, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

What with, Stoneclaw? 18:38, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

You don't know how to dull earpink? You just.. darken it.. Perhaps smudge the shading and then blur the smudges a lot. I do that sometimes. -- 19:51, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the shading worse...if possible... 20:19, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Do you need help with the shading? -- 22:16, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes plesae... 23:39, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading for you and blurred the earpink. -- 00:00, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Awesome, Snowwy. ^^ 02:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Just blur the shading on his neck.

Reuploaded Thanks for the help Snow.. And I used Ivystripe's thing. THanks for the help everyone! -- 15:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. -- 00:11, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I also darken it a touch. 00:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a bit. 02:57, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Other than the shading that needs to be blurred, this looks really great. :) . 04:32, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks. I actually blured it a lot to be sure. :) 22:39, November 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * ) Better. The shading on the tail just looks to dark, can you fix that? If not, I think it's okay. ^.^ . 23:00, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now that I look at it I know see that you are right. *dips head* Thank you for your comment. 01:23, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful, Sandstorm, dull the earpink. 03:16, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thank you. And changes not showing. Made very nice progress over the few days! I really love this now! 03:29, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Spiderstar (Lo) ~ For Approval
Special thanks to Oblivion for helping when I was completly desperate! Anyways, comments? 01:40, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

You need to blur the stripes xD I sent it to you just after I had finished in Paint so you could blur them yourself. 01:41, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Fixed the shading/highlights. Also blurred stripes. 01:56, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights go in the proper place, since it looks like a big blotch of light in the middle. Also tone down the earpink, its too bright/hot pinkish it. Love the stripes! M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   02:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

And fix the miscolored lineart. Also make the eyes look right. (see the apprentice tutorial for how they're supposed to look) ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  02:08, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

She can do the eyes any way she wants. It's how I did my eyes, and no one said anything about that. There's no specific guidelines for eyes. 02:10, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. 02:54, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

But highlights in other places and make the ear pink much smaller. Don't let it take up the whole ear. Also redden it or darken it. Thicken some stripes and lighten the tail. Great! 03:20, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the highlight a lot. It makes him look gray. 03:23, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/define the shading. As far as I can tell, I only see the highlights. Good job so far! 05:10, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty good for your first charart! Define the tail highlights. 15:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Specifically define the shading along the shoulder and thighs. 19:50, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm not sure what a lot of those words mean, but I did fix it. I ofund out we don't need highlights, so I took them out, making it look a lot better. I changed the ear-pink. Added shading. And fixed the stripes. Agh, I feel much better. (Thanks Snoweh!) 20:26, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit more as in darken the edges of the charart and as you move into the main body start lightening the shading if you have the light source right in front of the cat. Redden/darken the earpink via the paint brush/burn tool. And blur the stripes more. Nice! 20:30, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Tried my best! Thanks! (I thought I would suck at this, but I'm doing ok now) 20:57, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be the same colour as his leader's, but this is nice. :D <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="blue" >Sky- VoldemortxMcGonagall <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="cyan">ftw! 20:58, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

And how do I do that? Dx 21:43, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing and define/add shading. Also, to take the earpink off of the leader image, just copy the leader image into whatever program you use, then color pick. Easy. ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  22:34, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a huge amount and try adding highlights. Look at tutorials if you don't know how. 03:24, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

How do I lighten it? And the tutorial doesn't have a loner example. So I don't know where to put 'em. 11:56, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think on Night shine's and a few other's tutorials there is a section that shows where shading and highlights go on every rank. It's like a big chart or something. Hope that helps! 20:24, November 7, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

If you use layers you can lighten the base coat by just filling it with a different colour, but if you don't use layers you can use the dodge and colourize tools to lighten it (just be careful of the lineart). 21:09, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste near the tail, paws and head/neck areas-could you erase it? M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   23:13, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink. Do you need help? 02:00, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''RE-UPLOADED. '''Ok, I re-did the base coat, erased the waste. But I don't think I should redden the ear pink, because I got it from his leader image. Unfortunalty, I couldn't find a tutorial on where to put the highlights. (Because the video tutorials won't load) Besides I thought we didn't have to have highlights? Or am I mistaken? 12:14, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and make the earpink more triangular. I'm pretty sure highlights are optional, but we do have to have shading I think... 17:12, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Yes, highlights are optional but you have to have shading. I can still see waste around the charart, so try to erase that and define the shading. ^-^ M is    t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   17:14, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

If you wanna know where to put highlights, they go on the highest point on a cat's body- the shoulder and haunch muscles, the belly, andthe places where the light would directly hit them, such as the front of the face and the top of the tail. The muscle and belly shading should be round. They don't have to be a circle but should at least conform to the shape of the muscle. I hope I helped. 19:15, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Defined the shading and made the ear-pink more triangular. Misty, I didn't see any waste. SO I couldn't erase it. I personally don't want to add highlights, because I would fail at it, and I want to do the rest of the image (hopefully) on my own. 00:37, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

The waste is around the entire charart. It's faint, but trust me, it's there. 02:58, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Also redden the ear pink and make it a touch bit triangular. Also blur it a lot. This looks nice! 02:59, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or am i seeing no shading? Sorry, if there is, darken it up, please. I love it by the way. :) . 04:36, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Darkened Shading. And erased waste. @Sandstorm Should I redden the ear-pink? I thought you wanted it the same as the leader image? @Thistleberry There is shading, but when I blurred it, it probably went into the whole pelt too. 11:50, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten up the base color just a tad. Otherwise nice job Sweety! <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">Star <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">shine <font color="Silver">☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 21:19, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I tried too Dx 21:36, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the earpink should be the same as the leader, but when comparing the two, they're just a slight shade off of one another. I say brighten it rather than redden it. Anyways, like you've been hearing all the time, the shading is really faint. Define it by a large amount. I wouldn't darken it because then someone will probably tell you to lighten the whole image, but perhaps emphasize the lighter parts of the shading even to the possible extent of using highlights. Just try things out a bit (I suggest trying layers like in the tutorials if you're not already;)) Love the stripes though :3 03:38, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Nightwing (Q)- For Approval
I'm starting to like black cats.... Anyway, comments? :3 00:58, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

'Dis is pretty! Blue the shading a little but more please. 11:59, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a tad. Nice! 12:06, November 7, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Make the ear pink larger. 12:07, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the base color just a tad. 15:41, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading a little. 00:10, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think there is a white pixl where the tail meets the back paw. Try to fik that. Very nice. 02:03, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

That pixel is supposed to be there, as it's a gap between the tail and the back of the cat. It's just like the pixel on the leader. >.>;;; 17:36, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't touch the shading, as one person told me to define it, while another told me to blur. I also saturated the earpink a tad, because I'm paranoid. :P 01:37, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink and I didn't know <_> 02:55, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

How does the word 'emphasize' fit with you? Emphasize/bring it out/ lighten/etc. the shading please. x3 03:48, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Leopardfoot (Alt. W) ~ For Approval
I think it's genetically impossible to get mottled black cats, so I made her brown instead. Comments? 18:14, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, this is pretty! Blur the darker mottles right near the middle of the back. 20:22, November 7, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Well when you think about it a lot of the descriptions are really odd. Make this black, please, or don't do it at all. Sorry, that sounded kinda harsh :P but it really doesn't make sense to have a description and make a charart that completely contradicts that same description. <span style="">20:25 Mon Nov 7

Re-uploaded Don't worry, it's fine Wildheart. (Thank heavens for the desaturate tool XD) 20:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for not taking that the wrong way :3 Blur the earpink a tad and shrink it. This is lovely. <span style="">21:12 Mon Nov 7

Re-uploaded 21:44, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Right now she's spotted, and mottled means a combination of colors. I can only see two. You don't have to copy my Leopardstar image or Mudfur's, but you can use those as a general guide as to what mottled looks like. If anything, put spots of slightly lighter than her main pelt color. 23:55, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste around the chest area and redden the ear pink. Very nice! 02:06, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back a bit. 17:10, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Re-uploaded Sandstorm: I think it must have been your computer, because I checked and there was no waste. 18:09, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah my computer was glichting. Sorry. But redden the ear pink and lighten the shading on the back. 03:00, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Other than what's been said, I see nothing wrong. :) . 04:42, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the mottles on the tail tip a little. Nice job! 15:17, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and blur everything a lot. Very nice! 02:56, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean "blur everything"? It's a mottled cat, so it's supposed to look like this... 03:02, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, don't blur it please, I love how it looks. 03:04, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Leafstar (KP) ~ For Approval
I'm posting this on behalf of Thistleberry, who is having technical difficulties with the project pages. I personally thinks it looks excellent for a first charart! Comments? By the way, if Birdpaw gets a kittypet charart, logically Leafstar should as well. 02:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Just for clarification, this is for when Rock called her a kittypet. Shelly's right, since Birdpaw gets one, so does she. 02:28, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes to the upper ---> that side and the ears too. Redden the ear pink and add a stripe to the shoulder. Lighten the tail shading. Very nice! 02:38, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Couldn't it also count when she was taken by the Twoleg? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Green" >Sky-Stupidly <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="pink">Spring...✿ 02:39, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Good point. Also, Sandstorm, the image needs to match her leader and queen image, so Thistle doesn't need to add any more stripes. 02:43, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thistle said this; she still can't edit; " I can't fill in earpink in the other ear, it's turned. Look at chararts like Princess, or othe rkittypet chararts, they don't have it either. :3"  Elorisa   02:51, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add depth to the eye. What I mean by this (I'm assuming you may need clarification since you're new) is vary the lights and darks in the eye, such as highly dark and light color. Make the earpink curve with the ear and define it slightly. Blur the stripes a tad more. Durn I was gonna do this one 16:29, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the neck and possibly add some stripes there. 18:11, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Niceee, I think the stripes on her forehead should be on the other side, but Im not sure (Im looking at the leader image) Also, saturate the cream a bit - 23:27, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

.*Happy Dance* Finally i can edit PCA! So anyway, this has been up-dated around every two comments, so it's good for more. :) . 03:35, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

(Thistleberry, what you can do is once you upload the picture again, but in bold: Re-uploaded. It's easier to see what you have or haven't done that way :) 'Dis is very pretty though! Can you lighten the ear-pink a bit? If not that's fine! 11:56, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded-- Tried my best, and I also removed some waste I noticed. :) . 22:53, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Very good! Could you make the ear-pink more triangular? 23:11, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded -- I've lsot my layers, so i'm working best I can. . 00:19, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Still very nice. Make the ear pink a touch bit redder and lighten the tail shading. Much too dark. 02:57, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Tail shading is fine, Thistle. Don't listen to her. 03:04, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Velvet (Q) ~ For Approval
Comments? 03:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Move the nametag to the middle of her chest and blur the shading a bit. 03:43, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rename it Velvet.queen.png, make the background transparent and add depth to the eyes by varying the colors from light to dark. Like I said on chat, it looks great! 03:45, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 04:07, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the nametag bigger and make it hang a little, such as in Nutmeg's pixil (that's the only one I can think of atm). The earpink is too bright. You can take it from an approved white cat (I'm assuming she's supposed to be white?) On the belly, there is a strip of lighter colored pixils, make sure the shading is consistant there, as well as on the top of the tail. 16:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Her description says silver, but I just tried to copy the color of her kittypet charart. And due to technical difficulties I can't post the new image until Friday or Saturday :/ 21:18, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the a smidge since the kp version looks abit lighter, and I agree with Ivy on the collar - 23:12, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I think the kittypet should be tweaked, because it looks white to me, not silver. 23:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs to be lightened, alot. And can you make the earpink not so bright? Looks nice, though. :) . 04:43, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading everywhere except the face. 04:58, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the belly shading and make the name tag bigger and more circular. <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">Star <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">shine <font color="Silver">☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 21:21, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and lighten the yellow on the circle in the collar if you can please. 22:45, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Nice first image here Pouncey! ;) Dull the highlights. 01:19, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste on < that side of her around the paw farthest from us, the area around the collar, and the side of the face. :3 03:43, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Theres some dots of waste around the whole charart, but yes, it's mainley where Atelda had described. :) . 04:51, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Crookedstar (Alt. K) - For Approval
Ooh... Epic fail on the lineart... Comments? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 19:49, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Try to make the mouth hanging open a bit, like his leader image is. Just needs a couple black pixels. 21:39, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Also it needs to twist on the other side that the tooth isn't sticking out from. When I tweaked his jaw, I actually added a few pixils of dark red to it, you can do that too if you want. 23:24, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder and the M on the head looks to un blured and placed. Also make the stripes the slightest bit thinner. I love this! It mine! 03:03, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. @Ivy, thanks! I think it worked. @Sandy, I took all the colors from his leader charart; ear-pink is fine. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 03:29, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can you put some shading on the bottom side of the tail? Really like this. :) . 04:45, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste under his two left paws. 22:19, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. @Thistle, the light is coming from the lower left corner, so the shading would be on the top of the tail xP - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 02:38, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Is the tooth....bleeding? Or is it just my computer? Also lighten the shading the slightest bit. 02:59, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. @Sand, no that's his open mouth. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 03:42, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpclaw(SC) (Alt.W) - For Approval
Right, here he is. I copied the stripes as exactly as I could, but I know the earpink fails. Comments? Leopard claw  Look up  to the past…  19:59, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Nice! Theres some waste between the front and back legs. And make the chest less pink. 20:02, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't Shelly have this up? Cause she does, so, this will have to be declined by a lead. Sorry :( Rain  face &lt;3 20:04, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly has the deputy version up. 20:06, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

There's waste in between the legs. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Green" >Sky-Stupidly <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="pink">Spring...✿ 20:09, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes on his front legs. 20:16, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the earpink more defined and pink. 20:35, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, dur, I ish dumb, sorry Leopard :( Rain  face &lt;3 20:32, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on the front legs. 21:27, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Good job with the stripe, but the base color is a bit off... I picked mine right off the image, and it had a slightly orange tint. 21:38, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller and define it. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   21:58, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The file needs to be renamed Sharpclaw.warrior.alt.png. 22:21, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly, it's Sharpclaw (SC).warrior.alt.png. It should be the name of the page, not just the character. 22:24, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot I added the (SC) bit. XD 00:07, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the places where you smudged. 03:04, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

No, if Leopardclaw did that it wouldn't match my image. Define/darken the shading please. 03:05, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Neepgos. The triangle between all the legs is filled in. :P By the way, I think is is an amazing job. . 04:47, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the front paw stripes. 12:02, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded So much smudging! Leopard claw  Look up  to the past…  17:29, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

You still need to rename the image. 18:33, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's some white where the brown is supposed to be. Other than that it seems perfect to me. ^_^ <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">Star <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">shine <font color="Silver">☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 21:13, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome stripes! What program do you use to draw them? Also, make the earpink much smaller and center it. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   23:02, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the back paw please. The shading on the paw is too dark. 23:13, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink and lighten the tail shading. Very good job with the stripes! 03:00, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Also, the white on his chest is too big. And the white around his eye needs to go around the top. 03:13, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ravenpaw (Ro) ~ For Approval
I know he's not ACTUALLY a rogue, but he was mentioned as on in..... A Clan in need I think. XD Whatever the second Ravenpaw manga is. :P By Sandstorm when she was introducing him to Squirrelkit and Leafkit. Don't know the page number as the mangas don't have it, but it's in the browse inside. I took all the colors from the loner image, so don't comment on that. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:53, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and dull the ear pink and blur it. Too triangular. 03:01, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

The shading's fine, I think. You could blur it a bit more, though. 03:03, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the heading. Nice job! 03:05, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste between his back legs/paws. 03:08, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sandstorm, the earpink is great as it is, blurring/shapewise, in my opinion. Maybe enlarge it a tad. I love the colour of it. Blur highlights. Also the white tip on his tail is supposed to be a white ''tip. This one is almost like a white stripe. ''Make it shorter.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:Navyl">aka Rowantail 07:36, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Apprentice Blanks~ For Approval
Okay figured id finally post these. Its going to take forever to get them approved anyway. So ill make the back ground transprent when im done, and deal with any half erased pixels. Its just easier that way. And ill post the MCAs after these are approved. Its gonnna be a long approval process.... 05:03, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

* Stunned* These look amazing. Perhaps thin out the lineart on the forepaw/leg closest to us on the shorthaired blanks. 05:07, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

YAY MY LOVE YOU POSTED THEM <3 Make the front paw closest to us smaller. <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 I LOVE THESE <span style="">05:10 Thu Nov 10

Thin out the lineart on the tip of the tail for the shorthaired blanks. Other then that... yay! I <3 'em. 05:11, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, this isn't about how the blanks look. I'm confused, I thought we were waiting to post these until the fourth series was done? o.0  05:13, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Crouched like that, their shoulders would be higher up and the front of their backs would not be concave. Look here. Specifically at the cat on the top right. These look like their shoulders are dislocated. No offense. 05:14, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Also, what about MCA's? 05:23, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

She said she was going to post those after these ones were approved. 05:27, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, missed that. 05:33, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno if I'm allowed to comment here, but I can stick it in Photoshop and redline the anatomy for the body if you'd like? If you'd rather I not, I'd suggest rounding the shoulders and smoothing out the back, like Shellheart said. Drop the head down and to the left a bit, right now it makes the front of the neck appear to long and the chest to big. Bring the hindquarters forward slightly to help with the back. This is the closest I could find to the position you have here It's a snow leopard, but has roughly the same shape as a domestic cat. ~Breezewhisker~ 05:42, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

^^^ Why is that person not in our project!? Please join! 05:48, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah Breeze, join us! I really don't have anything to say about this, since what's been said really is fixing up what I had in mind. I just wanted to say lovely job, Iceheart! 05:51, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly, I'd love to know the same thing. That's a very detailed explanation, and it's better then anything I could have said. Wow. Breezewhisker, you really should join PCA. 05:53, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I don't think I'd be good about the regular part in the guidelines, though, with school and stuff. ~Breezewhisker~ 06:14, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Whoa, we're actually doing this 5 months early?? Awesomeee! The chest kinda looks like its not connected to the stomach right behind the front leg, Holy crap these are epic! XD - 06:23, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wow! Okay, sorry if it's just me but the muzzle kinda looks.. akward, the way it's sitting. It looks like it's been moved too much to the side. Hope you get what I mean. 06:40, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

GORGEOUS! The only thing I can see wrong other than what's already been said is, the tail on the longhair blanks are a bit too pointed. So just to get this straight, once these are approved, we can go on making NEW apprentice images, but we can't tweak any of the old ones till either after the forgotten warriors is out, or after the current series is done, right? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  07:17, November 10, 2011 (UTC)