Warriors Wiki talk:Charart



Folder for images that had been up for approval before the beginning of Tweak Week. 

Start of Tweak Week
Everyone, please remember to view the guidelines before posting on this page, so you know what you're doing. Make sure to put in as much effort as possible to follow all the guidelines so this can run as smoothly as possible. I will be away until Saturday at a camp, and on my return I will expect there to have been no major arguments or fights. You all are members of this Project; act professionally and maturely. If you have any questions, please address them to any of the Project leads after checking the guidelines to make sure they are not already answered there. Leads, should any problems arise, deal with the situation efficiently and calmly and resolve the problem as swiftly as you can. Use some independent intelligence, as I won’t be here to deal with the situation until I return. I know I can count on you. Good luck everyone, and have fun. :) This can be archived later. Bram ble 04:43, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Question
For the new chararts, do we upload them on the current images? -- Gοlδεnρεlτ T e n s o u ! 04:57, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Question is answered in the guidelines, right at the top. Did you not read them? --Bram ble 05:08, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I only skimmed, so I must have missed it. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ T e n s o u ! 05:09, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, after tweak week is over, all our chararts that were here before will be returned to the page right? Sorry, I've never been through a tweak week before :) Night  Fall 06:14, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, they'll be put back. Lots of us haven't been through Tweak Week before; I barely missed it. Last time TW was delayed until all of the images on the page were approved, so this one is very different. Plus, it's three weeks longer. :P I sincerely doubt I needed to say all that to answer your question, but oh well. :D  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 23:35, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, it's fine :) Thanks! Night  Fall 03:06, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. :) Can you clear up the approving process for me with tweaked images? I know that we put "improvement completed" and that we put it in a new archive, but I'm not sure whether we wait 24 hours with no comments or if we just go ahead and add it when we think it's ready without waiting for any possible last minute comments there would be in a 24 hours.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 03:18, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest, I have no idea either :P Night  Fall 03:38, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The last Tweak Week, I don't remember whether they waited 24 hours, but you can check the archives. 雨晶須 五六七 13:31, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

They used cba last time. But I've reread the guidelines, and I think I've figured it out. Since the guidelines say "the 24 hours will not be used," we archive them when we think they're ready. But it said after that that the images have already been approved so they don't need to be approved again, but for images that have been redone rather than just edited, should we wait 24 hours?  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 13:51, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Im an apprentice but i think i can answer that question (i really wish i was a warrior, But dont all apprentices) i think that even though its being redone it was still a older image and just being re done because lets just say the person doing a cat had to completly re do it cause there was no way it could be edited without completly wrecking the charart so they had to re do it. But its still an older image so i think no. But im just an apprentice so you dont have to listen to this. So the leader deputy will decide if its ok or not  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 13:56, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, in Bramble's absence I will do my best to clear things up =) The images that were up for approval will be returned to this page once TW is over and life will resume as usual reverting back to the usual rules. For the purpose of TW the senior warriors have the power to 'approve' or rather verify the image once it is at the high standards we have come to expect and once the necessary changes have been made. I believe the same goes for a redone image (though without double checking the guidelines I cannot be sure whether anything different is stated there; I'm trusting that it isn't hence the question) though in this case I think it would be wise to use the sense that is assumed with senior warrior-ship XD Perhaps give time to make sure there are no other issues (ie. wait a whie after the last upload before approving) but no 24 hour 'call' should be used as far as I am aware . -- Sandy star 17:50, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * I stand corrected after checking the guidelines:
 * These sections should go through the full 24 hours before approval, but will still be archived in respective Tweak Week archives.
 * That should solve that. -- Sandy star 17:54, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blossomfall (Kit)- Stripe Removal
- As I feel best editing my own images ( and usually keep the xcf files on hand, anyway) I decided to start with her. I removed the stripes, as I was supposed too. Dark hallows 06:04, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any issues with it. The only difference I can find between it and the original is the stripes, obviously. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ T e n s o u ! 06:47, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is awsome :) Blur the white transition on the tail tip though Night  Fall 06:48, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred ^^. Dark hallows 06:52, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a tad ♥Ice  shine★  15:02, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on her head. Echo star  Getting a tan 17:31, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Done Darkhallows Mew? 20:06, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (Q)
Original user was Sandwich989. The improvements are changing it from whatever that yellowish color was to pale ginger, having ear pink consistent with kit, warrior, and apprentice, shading issues, and adding a torn ear. Since it was a make-over, I also made an alternate version with stripes. Suggestions? -- Gοlδεnρεlτ T e n s o u ! 06:19, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Seeing as none of her other versions have stripes I'd go with number one. Which I see nothing wrong with. I'm going to wait to see other's opinions, though. Darkhallows... Mew? 02:07, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good :) Make her a bit more gingery though, she still looks kind of yellow Night  Fall 06:34, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Better? -- Gοlδεnρεlτ T e n s o u ! 06:43, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink smaller. ♥Ice shine★  15:06, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? :) -- Gοlδεnρεlτ T e n s o u ! 17:34, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Is there a way you can make it more ginger? Darken the eye colour--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:09, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Done. This ginger enough for you guys? ;) -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 19:59, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Awsome :) I don't really see anything else wrong, accept maybe blur the belly shading Night  Fall 22:06, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if it will blur any further, but it's worth a try. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 22:16, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

That good? -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 22:20, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I think it's ready. I'll wait to see another senior warrior's opinion, as I'm not 100% sure how we approve them? Darkhallows... Mew? 02:07, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

@Shady: The senior warriors archive the images, finishing the sentence with “Improvement completed.” ♥Ice shine★  02:17, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I know... but seeing as there is no 24 hours, does more than one have to give the OK? Darkhallows... Mew? 02:41, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The guidelines say the senior team, so I would assume so. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 02:44, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, she looks fine to me :) Night  Fall 03:05, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I think this is ready, too.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 03:21, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Do we archive it like usual?--  Night s h i n e    ~  04:46, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm not sure. I think we need Ashshadow and Hawktalon's vote to proceed though Night  Fall 05:04, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I think you archive it by putting this section under the original section (where Goldenflower was first approved). I might be wrong though. That's how they did it during the last Tweak Week. 雨晶須 五六七 13:37, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Should Goldenflower be tabby, since all ginger cats in reality are tabby? Echo star  Getting a tan 15:53, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenpaw added stripes, right? I can see them clearly (but what do I know, it's dark where I am, in my room, and I see stuff clearly in the dark, but...) if you can't see them, then Golden should probably darken them. ♥Ice shine★  15:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Note on approval: You simply wait until there have been no comments for 24 hours and then archive this in a new archive which I will create in a moment to make it easy. You type 'improvement complete' and archive. Only one sw need do this providing the full 24 hours is waited, and no CBA is needed.
 * On the image: The colour is much better than it was before. I'm not sure stripes are necessary because although in real life this may be true of ginger cats, the Erins pay little attention to genetics and what is physically possible, but I don't think it matters either way. Any more opinions on this? -- Sandy star 18:00, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Icecloud (W) Redone
Alright, she needed to have the shading and highlights style fixed. I tried to do this without completely redoing the image, but I couldn't :/ So, I changed the shading and highlights style, and I made the ear pink the color of her kit image; as it was very purple before. Okay, how does she look? Night Fall 06:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading on the back of her neck/behind her ear. Dark hallows 06:38, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Added shading behind ear Night  Fall 06:47, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the head ♥Ice  shine★  15:07, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Added head shading Night  Fall 18:45, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit more--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:40, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Bluestar (W)
So, I re-did the image, and I am sorry, but I do not know who made the image before. I wasn't sure if I should add the scar, so please tell me if I should. εСћб ђэάѓτ  11:58, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

i think should not cause was it seen on her leader or older warrior image? otherwise this is really good apart from the shading under the neck that i think is supposed to be there but i dont know  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 12:42, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and darken the shading, ♥Ice  shine★  15:07, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I darkened the shading and blurred the highlights. εСћб ђэάѓτ  16:24, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

It looks really nice, but perhaps make the ear pink a bit bigger? insane brick'd 16:26, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Ditto insane. Echo star  Getting a tan 17:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Made ear pink bigger. How's it now? εСћб ђэάѓτ  17:54, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Midriff shading needs serious blurring. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! It's tooHOT!   18:14, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred as much as I could. Is it okay? εСћб ђэάѓτ  18:31, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing. The blue is a little dark--  Night s h i n e    ~  18:38, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten her a bit, she looks very dark compared to her other images Night  Fall 18:39, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

She's supposed to have a silver tinged muzzle and tail tip.XxdovesongXX 07:20, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

She only had the silver muzzle and tipped tail because she was getting old. I don't think it's needed on her warrior image, because she is still young--  Night s h i n e    ~  07:21, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I made her lighter. εСћб ђэάѓτ  10:42, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading the back leg. ♥Ice shine★  15:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

It could still be lightened more. I think the colour should be similar to her kit and apprentice images--  Night s h i n e    ~  17:42, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Stoneclaw (W)
Okay, so I got rid of the mottled parts, (if you didn't notice, some mottled spots were there) re-did the shading, added highlights, and re-did the ear pink. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do that...but, comments? ♥Ice shine★  14:26, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I dont see anything that needs fixing or the mistakes are hardly seen to me so good job  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 14:32, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink could be a bit longer. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ T e n s o u ! 17:27, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Goldenpaw on the ear pink. Also, blur the highlights a bit more. Echo star  Getting a tan 17:30, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Made ear pink longer. I can't blur the highlights. ♥Ice shine★  17:37, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are a bit too concentrated, and the highlight on the shoulder should be a tad bit taller. Blur the ear pink some more.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 17:56, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: ♥Iceshine★ 19:24, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on the haunch just a little bit; it's still too concentrated.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 19:37, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded:  ♥Ice shine★  19:54, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink and blur it--  Night s h i n e    ~  00:25, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: ♥Ice  shine★  03:26, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more--  Night s h i n e    ~  04:48, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

It can't blur it. ♥Ice shine★  13:38, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Old Chararts
I know it's Tweak Week, but when can we re-post the chararts that we might've had up for approval? ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 15:35, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

When Tweak Week is over, Bramble will move back the chararts that were previously up for approval - right now they've been moved to a protected page to preserve all discussions and such that were going on before Tweak Week. insane brick'd 15:39, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks! ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 15:40, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Squirrelflight (W)
All she needed was a torn ear. Comments? Moon   flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   17:43, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is fine. But I also think the shading and ear pink could be darkened and the markings could be blurred more--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:05, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

There's a few pixels missing on the head lineart.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 19:08, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

And there is a light pixel in the nose that should be black--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:10, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken it, blur the markings. ♥Ice shine★  19:11, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, I think the markings would look a bit weird blurred. But that's just me Night  Fall 19:17, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think the markings should stay as they are, but I agree about the shading and the ear pink.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 19:20, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Squirrelflight doesn't have markings, does she? I was sort of thinking they should be changed, too. . .XxdovesongXX 19:50, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well we went with reality with her. Ginger cats are almost always tabbies. I think the stripes should stay since her other images have them as well. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  19:55, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Not trying to be backseat senior warrior here, but I was under the impression that chararts should only have the things they were nominated for changed? Like, since she was nominated for a torn ear that's all you change, you don't change other things. Although it's as good a time as any to change other things if they need changing, I was under the impression that if it wasn't nominated for other things to be changed, then those things aren't in need of change... (if I am wrong please ignore me XD) insane  brick'd 20:32, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I myself was wondering this; personally I think any thing that needs to be changed should be changed, since this is the perfect moment to do it Night  Fall 21:59, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks dark enough to me, but if everyone feels I should darken it, I will. I fix the pixels and earpink soon. Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   22:09, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Either darken the shading or brighten the highlights, but I think either way will work.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 22:55, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Firestar (L) - Redone
I'm pretty happy with this. Comments?--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:06, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Er...was it in the make over section? ♥Ice shine★  19:08, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. The shading on his leader image was blotchy and it needed to look more like his other images.--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:11, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good. The tabby M is blurred just a little too much, so define it some.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 19:13, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I defined it--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:23, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, this is really good! The shading and colouring is perfect. I'm just a little confused as to why he has stripes. . . his other one did, too.XxdovesongXX 19:49, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

He's a tabby. This is great Night! Darken the shading. ♥Ice shine★  19:50, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well, he's not necessarily an official tabby, but ginger cats almost always have sripes. I've only seen one image of a solid ginger cat on google Night  Fall 20:06, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened shading--  Night s h i n e    ~  22:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

. . . Yes, but if he had stripes, they would've said something in the books. Just because lots of ginger cats have stripes doesn't mean he does. . .XxdovesongXX 07:21, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

All ginger cats have stripes. They may not be mentioned, but realistically, they're still there. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 07:39, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, okay, then maybe all the ginger cats' chararts should, too. Like the Goldenflower one. You said you made a striped version anyway.XxdovesongXX 09:34, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

It seems as though there are too many stripes. Echo star  Getting a tan 15:49, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Too many stripes? I tried making him similar to his apprentice image--  Night s h i n e    ~  17:41, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sloefur (D) - Redone
The shading needed blurring, but no matter how much I blurred it it just wouldn't fix the blotchiness of the shading, so I ended up redoing the shading. Since I ended up redoing it, I went ahead and added highlights, too. Comments and suggestions?  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 19:18, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink. The whole image seems a little dark. Maybe lighten it a tiny bit--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:24, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the image. ♥Ice shine★  19:27, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. How's this?  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 19:31, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I can barely see the ear pink. Lighten it more--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:32, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I don't want to lighten it too much more because then it'll get more of a gray color than a pink or red.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 19:41, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Define the earpink a bit. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  19:49, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Either this ear pink is killing me, or I'm just full of total ear pink failure today. D:  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 19:59, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I have that problem too xD. I don't think it needs to be defined, so much as it needs to be more pink. Darkhallows... Mew? 20:08, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried a lot of different things to get the ear pink right before finally saving, and this ended up being the best...I think.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 22:52, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should just redo the ear pink. Other than that, the image is perfect--  Night s h i n e    ~  00:24, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I did multiple times. :/ I'll try again, though. Should I make it a reddish color or a pinkish color? (Or should I get the exact same color as another image, and if so, which one?)  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 02:58, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Troutstar- Shading redone
I couldn't properly blur the shading so I redid it. I didn't have to redo the whole image so thats why the title doesn't just say redone. Comments? Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  19:45, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. ♥Ice shine★  19:49, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. I don't really want to blur it more than this. Ashshadow o r Creamsplash'''  23:40, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the nose colour--  Night s h i n e    ~  00:22, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Lionblaze (A) - Redone
I redid the stripes and the blurring to match the other images. Comments? Mõŏń    ۞   20:02, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

It needs to be saturated a bit. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 20:04, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any earpink. Darkhallows... Mew? 20:09, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, changed the ear pink and saturated it a little. Mõŏń    ۞   20:15, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink, arm and tail stripes more.--  Night s h i n e    ~  00:22, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Darken his pelt colour. ♥Ice shine★  18:18, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstar (R) - Redone
I think it's not my best. . . but Ok. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! It's tooHOT!   23:02, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks really cool! Add some more stripes, and darken the cream patches Night  Fall 23:10, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Blur the stripes too, and some lineart on the head is missing. ♥Ice shine★  23:27, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should compare it to the other images. her cream and brown are much darker, and the patches are more blurred. Good job, though :)XxdovesongXX 07:23, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Larchkit - Shading
I'm not sure who did Larchkit before, because there are two uploads by two different users in the file history, so I don't know who did her before. It said on the Nominations page that she needed shading, so here she is. Comments/Critisicm? 雨晶須 五六七 13:25, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Darken ear pink- ♥Ice shine★  13:55, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

(The original artist was Bramble) This looks good, but you've made her a little yellow where the highlights are... -- Sandy star 18:10, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Tallstar (W) - Redone
Original charart done by Hawkfire98. I redid the black patches because they didn't match his leader and apprentice images. Constructments? -- H A W K T A L O N        ö 14:35, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the white tail tip. Make the black extend down to his arm. Lighten the ear pink--  Night s h i n e    ~  17:37, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Helping out
To re-do an charart, do we have to be the one who made it? Or can we just pick one and go? ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 15:48, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Actually since we are apprentices we dont do chararts we can only comment and that but yes for warriors to re do a char art you can pick one and edit it (As long as someone does not have it reserved) or if you did make it go right a head as long as someone does not have it reserved  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 16:02, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Flametail (MCA) - made Longhaired
Very simply, he was confirmed to be longhaired, so I made him longhaired. I kept all of the existing art and only filled in the new sections that came with the longhaired blank. How is it? insane brick'd 18:04, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Add eye color  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 18:13, July 7, 2010 (UTC)