Forum:Vote of No Confidence - Kitsufox

Hello, users of Warriors Wiki. I’m here today to put a Vote of No Confidence against the admin, Kitsufox. Though she's done some wonderful work in the past while reviving the wiki, some of her behavior has been highly questionable and inappropriate. I'm going to look over those cases and question; Is that the right behavior for a bureaucrat?

First, her activity level is unacceptable for a bureaucrat. She has these long gaps of inactivity and then she returns for a little bit before disappearing again. An admin should be on often, not 24/7, but often enough to catch vandals and other calls of duty instead of leaving it to a solo admin. She has also neglected giving various users their earned rights despite being on this Wiki since they had passed their nominations, for up to a month in come cases, despite being warned several times by other users. Her inactivity on the wiki is not good, because it affects her mainspace edits, and her inactivity on projects is large. She has had roughly the same number of edits for a year now, and her editcount is fairly poor for an admin. The percentage is not good for any user, never mind an admin, and she shouldn’t get away with it because she is one. I understand that being an admin has her edit talk pages and userpages more often than others, but this? It's simply unsatisfactory for an administrator. She only contributes to project pages when she feels as though it is necessary to persuade others in another's favor, which leads me into my next point: favoritism

She also shows favoritism towards other users, taking their opinions instead of others (even if others were correct). Due to her behavior, it is presumed that she belittles others because ‘’she’’ believes they are wrong, even though she may be wrong herself.

Moving on, she has a record for personal attacks. Though she is an adult, that does not give her the right to insult certain users, calling them inappropriate names, such as dicks or calling their actions ”douchebaggery”. As an admin, she should be fair and just instead of insulting them. She also takes sides, instead of acting neutral in debates and kindly stopping it, as seen here.

Furthermore, Kitsufox has past cases of abuse of her rights in these kind of cases, using her rights to end a conflict in her favor, while not listening to another person’s point of view. In an edit war, after openly taking a side in the war she used her rights to end it in her favor, not even getting the opinions of the others around her who are equal to her.

In conclusion, I believe that Kitsufox should be rid of her admin and bureaucrat rights. With the proof shown; her inactivity, favoritism, record for personal attacks, and abuse of rights shows that she has not succeeded in being an administrator without going against the rules she enforces, and  has even gone against the rules listed  here.

I understand that others' opinions may oppose my own, but this it mine. So if anyone else disagrees, please state your opinion here. We need input and opinions. 01:01, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Paleh, you took words out of my keyboard. What you said up there was backed up with important information, and after taking a look at the links you provided, I was shocked. What admin has the right to insult other users? I know this is not very long, (mostly because all my words were taken), but I support this Vote of No Confidence. 01:03, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

I have to agree; given the proof. I have not much to say, but Kitsu has done great for the wiki, but this behavior is not acceptable for a 'crat. Sorry, but I have noticed that Kitsu has been taking sides and so (for lack of better words...).

Kind regards, 01:05, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Kitsu, you were very excellent to the Wiki, but Paleh took the words out of my mouth as well. It is not right what has been one lately, and something should be done about it. This behaviour should not be tolerated, especially for a 'crat. Best, 01:10, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I too support this. I've got nothing but respect for the user who shaped Warriors Wiki into what it is today, but, some of her actions have even gotten //me// baffled. I mean, I remember a time where I used to see Kitsu on every day, now, I hardly see that unless she's summoned to deal with a spam or vandal issue. I realize that she is older than the general fanbase for Warriors, and she has a job, as well as a life of her own to live, but shouldn't that be the reason she relinquishes her rights to someone else? There are some users that don't even know who the name "Kitsufox" refers to, since she's hardly ever on.

I still have nothing but respect for the user that first attracted me to the wiki, but I'm sorry. I really am. I think your time as an administrator and bureaucrat of Warriors Wiki has passed. In all my time here on WW, I haven't seen anyone more dedicated to the wiki as her, but I honestly think that it's time to pass the admin stick onto another user.

I remember when me and a few other users tried to take down Kitsu, but we were, well... defeated. XD Now I understand the extent of work Kitsu has done for the wiki. But with this, my opinion has changed completely. No admin has the right to insult other users. To put it simply, it's abuse of power. And Paleh, you got out there, got the proof, stood up and said all this. I have a lot of respect for you.  Millie  Purple   is   Perfection  01:28, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

I have to agree with all of you. Kitsu has no right to favor users, make arguments end her way, or call other users innapropriate names. She rarely edits anyway, so what's the point of keeping her adminship? I show much respect in her, but that is not acceptable for a 'crat, even if she is an adult. Her attacks on people are not okay, and it needs to end. I'm sorry if anyone takes offense to what I have said, or if I have randomly butted in. Thank you. ❄Moss ❄  01:39, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Kit, but I also agree. Kitsu has really worked her butt off on the wiki, but times have changed. She has a job, husband, a life outside of here that doesn't include/have time for the wiki. She's been inactive, her editcount is poor for a 'crat, even for an adult. Paleh took the words right out of my mouth. 02:24, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

As the only person that'll speak in favour of Kit, I feel the need to put my argument forth, even if I'm the person you guys believe she is favouring.

First off, with that edit war: Cloudskye and I were both told off and she locked the page with the mottled description on it only because it is cited information and it made the most sense to leave it with said cited information in place until someone could find information contradicting it. Not because of anything else.

Second off, I do not consider her edit count to be lacking. No, she cannot edit articles because she is behind in the series, but she is always on the wiki when she is needed most, unlike the last 'crat we demoted. And I would ask no more of her with the responsibilities she has. Editing is hardly a requirement of adminship in any case. The jobs of an admin are housekeeping, edit patrolling, wiki coordination, policy enforcement, and technical work, all things Kit already does. The only job of a 'crat is to promote and demote users. That's all.

Finally, she took my side in one debate because she agreed with me. Are 'crats not allowed to have opinions? And who are you to say I was wrong and those going against me at the time were right? I was only trying to insert cited information into an article. Kitsufox ended the edit war on Leopardfoot's page so that the debate could continue in a more civilized fashion on the talk page. And she called Cloudskye immature because she called Spottedleaf "Spottedidiot" which, in fact, is an immature remark to make, no matter what Cloudskye's feelings about the character are.

Kitsufox is the person that made this wiki the way it is today, and the general dislike you people have for me is not a valid reason to demote her in my eyes simply because she doesn't hate me. Yes, she has used language from time to time, but it's never been extreme and she's used it against users that have sought to harm the wiki or its users in some way. If you think it's worth demoting her for those two small instances, then I'd love to see who you people think can do a better job at keeping this wiki as the best, most professional, and most respected source of Warriors information. 03:16, June 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but Shelly, when did we say that you had anything to do with why we would like to see Kitsu demoted? We said nothing of the sort. Our feelings toward you have nothing to do with the fact we feel that she is no longer suited for her place as an admin of this wiki. We have multiple instances of times where Kitsu has failed in her duties as admin, not just two.


 * Your fight with me is listed alongside her apparent favouritism of me, so I call foul. And if you have more reasons than that, list them. Show me your proof of instances in which Kitsufox has outright failed in her duties as admin. 03:26, June 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * That just happened to show up recently, and it happened to be how it was phrased. As for some examples? Why not ask the staff members that waited well over a month for their rights to be given to them because Kitsu hadn't been around, despite being reminded multiple times, by multiple members of the wiki. Or, perhaps ask Leapkit, the user who basically got attacked by Kit (when now that I look at it, Kit had no right to call them what she did, even if she was enforcing the rules).

I'm sorry Kit, but it's true. You did shape the wiki into it's fine shape it is today, but things don't last forever. You have a life outside of this. It's for the good of everyone to have you retire with much success behind your back. 03:22, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I have to agree with everything said above, I saw her post that message on Leapkit's wall, and I was, well, shocked, I thought Admins were supposed to be kind, not taking sides. When I first joined, I didn't even know Kitsu was an Admin, I had just briefly heard of her and went to her profile, and I was like 'Woah she's an admin?' I think she should have an admin and B-crat rights taken away. Sorry, but that's how I feel, though I still have great respect for you, Kitsu. 03:23, June 27, 2012 (UTC)