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Jessamy (Ro) ~ For Approval
Shading is annoying. ErmineGlow (talk) 16:39, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

The shading needs to be smoothed out and define the dark splotch on her ear?Broken_Foot

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 17:52, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smooth shading some more and define it on the legs? 19:36, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 19:41, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading a little more, define the light on the legs and tail. 20:19, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:42, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a little. Also, I think the belly shading should extend further ---> way, towards where the haunch overlaps the underbelly. 22:24, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail a bit? 23:40, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Could you move the splotch more on the ear and define it? It kind of blends in with the shading on the side of the head 01:10, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 15:54, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on both front legs and the back one farthest from us, and smooth out the shading a bit? 17:41, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

There's a little piece on the belly near the hips where the shading is missing. 22:47, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste by the belly and a little way above the base of the tail 00:18, April 9, 2017 (UTC)

The shading seems a bit dark.

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 14:10, April 9, 2017 (UTC)

The shading is leaking on the <-- front leg near the lineart. 14:18, April 9, 2017 (UTC)

The waste is still there :/ and I think shading could be lightened and smoothed some more  15:06, April 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * The shading darkness is fine, Snow. But I do agree on the smoothing of it 02:05, 4/10/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:21, April 10, 2017 (UTC)

Not to be rude, but I cannot tell the difference between each of your uploads. I noticed only little to no change to your image. Excuse me if I come off rude, but I really can't tell the differenceBroken_Foot

Smooth the shading.

Just thought I'd point out that the waste is still there- right below the belly, and a little at the top of the image above the tail 23:59, April 10, 2017 (UTC)

There's a reddish marking on the lower part of the belly that I don't think is supposed to be there. Jayie Just yo u wait~ 01:10, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:46, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste around the whole image 22:34, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I'm pretty sure all the waste is gone now. ErmineGlow (talk) 12:35, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

Theres still waste around the muzzle and tailtip 13:36, 4/14/2017

I think there's still waste around the <-- paw closest to us too.

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:04, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs and tail 21:21, April 14, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading while you're at it.

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 19:34, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smooth out the splotch on the ear? It's looking a little hard-edged. 19:45, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and expand it on the face. Also, maybe slightly expand the flank shading.

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 18:06, April 16, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading some more, I can't hardly make it out. As well as defining the shading depth, and add some more light on the front legs 20:23, 4/17/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 22:42, April 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading more 01:20, 4/19/2017

Reups Egg salad ErmineGlow (talk) 02:44, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

The shading is leaking almost everywhere and still needs to be smoothed out. 02:46, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 14:16, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Reups again noticed some waste ErmineGlow (talk) 14:19, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

There's still waste all around the image Rainbowmistake (talk) 14:28, April 22, 2017 (UTC)chat

Reups I think that the waste is gone now. ErmineGlow (talk) 14:33, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

The shading could still be smoothed out a lot

The base colour looks reddish? 19:38, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Don't really know why the base looks reddish. The hex code is #292323 ErmineGlow (talk) 23:16, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Well, that's probably because #292323 isn't actually a pure gray and does have a bit of a reddish tinge. I'm not saying you have to, but you can desaturate it completely and use the gray color with the same value, which is #292929. Regardless, I think the shading could still be smoothed more. 20:44, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:48, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like the shading is leaking away from the lineart pretty much everywhere, and the shading could be smoothed out, especially on the tail and legs

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 22:03, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Shading still leaking, and shading still needs to be smoothed

To tell the truth, I'd prefer not to smooth out the shading anymore, because how the image is shaded now is how I want the image to look. However, I can still smooth it out if someone else thinks it should be. ErmineGlow (talk) 21:12, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

I still think it needs to be smoothed out. I can only tell a slight difference from the first upload, and what I think most of us were trying to achieve with our comments was for there to be more of a gradient. Not that we want butter smooth shading- because that's not a requirement - but what we are looking for is for it to look less blocky and fade out like real shading. I know that people have styling preferences, but this really looks sharp and needs to have some type of gradient that fades out.

Reups I'm not entirely sure if this is better, but it looks better than last upload. At least on my computer. ErmineGlow (talk) 21:45, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading more 23:10, 4/26/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 12:52, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste around the head and tail 13:39, 4/27/2017

There's also some waste along the chest and <- front leg and a little bit by the back

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:03, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the ---> side of the... side and the hind leg closest to us. 00:33, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

The gray still isnt pure gray, saturate the color to remove the red tinge. 01:30, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading overall. 02:11, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I was told that I didn't have to change the type of gray earlier ErmineGlow (talk) 02:25, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like there's line of darker shading on the body by the back leg, could you smooth that out a bit?

Define the light a tad? 23:36, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 02:07, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

The line still looks sharp, and could you make the shading on the tail a little lighter? It looks darker than the rest of the shading

Reups Look better? ErmineGlow (talk) 15:34, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

It still looks like a line, and the tail shading didn't change

Reups Facepalm totally forgot about the tail shading. ErmineGlow (talk) 20:51, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Shading's leaking away from the lineart on the backside of the cat, I think

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:04, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the head 00:41, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Reups 00:58, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth on the belly

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:06, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs, and we should be good 00:29, 5/04/2017

Reu[s ErmineGlow (talk) 03:45, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Could you expand/define the facial light slightly?

There's strange white/pale patches on the front legs? 21:10, 5/05/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:13, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reups The leg didn't really fix the first time, so I did it again. ErmineGlow (talk) 21:30, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Theyre still there 02:23, 5/06/2017

Amberclaw (Star) - For Approval
-cringes- rip shading and eye color 00:07, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

Define shading and eye depth. Also, can you make the stripes on the forehead a bit thicker to match the other images? And is the nose filled in? 00:11, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

I think they're thick enough, but it is an approval page. Define the earpink, and the shading on the tail? Also, the nose is filled in 00:15, 4/20/2017

reups 00:40, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading pretty much everywhere besides the tail, quite a bite. 00:42, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste near the ear and front paws 00:55, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

reups shading seems a lil dark but I dunno and I think I got rid of the waste 00:58, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth more ErmineGlow (talk) 01:17, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

Shading could be expanded on the belly.

I think there would be a little shading behind the <-- arm (I rlly hope you know where I'm talking about)  also define shading depth a little

This is beautiful! I would smudge/blur the shading on the ear a little. 16:32, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

Define the pupil slightly - I can see it, but it's a little hard to make out

i dunno if I can still make comments since I'm technically no longer in PCA anymore but could you smooth out -> earpink a bit? 20:23, 4/20/2017

reups the belly shading. yikes. 21:17, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

The belly shading could really be expanded and the shading could use some smoothing out.

This can be for approval, since you seem to know what you're doing. :) 15:29, 4/21/2017

reupz ^aH yay ! 23:25, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

Define shading depth and smooth it out everywhere but the flank. 06:33, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

reups 13:56, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

I think there's still some waste near the ---> ear. 15:32, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Darken the stripes just a touch, as they seem darker on the other images. Also, define the shading depth

reups 17:16, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? 19:48, 4/23/2017

The shading could be darkened and defined a bit, imo.

The shading is leaking almost everywhere, especially the cheek, chest and tail. 05:15, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

I think there's still some waste near the ---> ear and in the space between the front paws 17:28, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Imo the color of the stripes looks a little off, a little too dark, and the earpink looks a little  too light

still working, my time is very limited atm 21:38, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

reups 22:00, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not seeing any changes in the file from the previous upload. Make sure you don't upload an older version of the image! ^^ 22:43, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

reups i matched the base and the stripes to the kit a bit more 22:59, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

You should be matching to the warrior, since that was the first image. Base looks too light, stripes too dark, earpink too light

reups adjusted to warrior 00:11, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

Very minor, but the last stripe on the <--- paw slopes upward, not downward, if that makes sense. 00:36, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

reups 20:12, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth 00:34, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

The shading is still leaking on the paws, arms, behind the elbow on the flank, and a little on the cheek. 04:36, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Still working? 21:11, 5/05/2017

Conekit (Ki) ~ For Approval
This turned out better than I thought. 20:30, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Nice! Define the shading, smooth it out, define the shading depth, smudge the patches, smudge the ear pink. 20:38, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Is your light from <-- way? I don't want to be super picky with source and all, but the tail contradicts the light source. Light's from <-- way but the shading shows that it's not, and I think the tail shading should be swapped to the other side.

Reuploaded Thanks! And yes, the shading is from the <--- way. 20:49, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to persist, but if the shading's from <-- way like you say, wouldn't the shading for the tail be moved to the other side? The way it is now, it contradicts the light source, as just that part says that the light is hitting from the other direction while the rest of it does not.

What? Now I'm confused. You just told me to move it to the other side earlier, and I did. Now are you telling me to move it back? Not meaning to sound rude, but which way does it go? 20:54, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

It's correct now. I was looking at your past upload. The upload history shows that you uploaded twice after your original post, and at the time I commented for the second time, your older revision was still showing. So, sorry about that, as I looked at it when it was uploaded for the second revision, after you commented, but before the change had been made.

Well done :) Second image since the first was approved :) Smooth out the shading on the head near the <--- ear? 21:18, 4/24/2017

Reuploaded Thanks! :) 21:25, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge out the patches more.

Reuploaded 22:52, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

blur/smudge earpink some more.Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  06:08, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Blur shadow on tail – 09:47, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:50, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth, it looks really flat. User:Homosneksual/sig 00:43, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:55, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

The way you smoothed the patches looks blotchy. Make sure there are defined spaces between them, and that one side of a patch isn't more blurry than the other, if that makes sense? 23:40, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:05, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

I believe the shading is leaking away from <-- cheek fluff and could you smooth out the ankle markings and face shading please

Reuploaded 04:11, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

There is waste all around the head. Also, the shading seems quite blotchy and disconnected, and that it blends into the gray patches so it looks like one big gray patch. 20:44, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:21, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded again Shading depth was bad so I changed that. Also, before anyone asks, this if supposed to be sharp. 00:24, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs a lil more <span style="">00:30, 5/04/2017

Reuploaded 00:37, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading a tad on the back paw, define the shading depth on the head 02:28, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:03, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Shading could stand to be smoothed more on the chest area and head <span style="">21:11, 5/05/2017

Reuploaded 22:26, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

I think shading is leaking a little on the back paw and by the underbelly. Also smooth out the shading more where I pointed out last time as well as the tail <span style="">14:31, 5/06/2017

Reedwhisker (Rogue) ~ For Approval
very filthy repost, I apologize if I break a rule or anything for this --

Not sure if you are or not, but if not, smooth the shading and define the light. 04:48, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

You aren't breaking a rule, Neon. We do not tell users they cannot repost unless they break the one month rule.

Define the ear pink? 20:20, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I tried lightening it to contrast against his black fur, so it'd pop out and be more visible --

Does the ear pink match the other images? The pink in the deputy looks lighter than this. 14:56, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the light on the image?

Reuploaded I think it's the light? Also, how do I define it, Spooky? I forgot. --

I don't know how other people do it, but I just erase shading where I want my light-source to be with low opacity set in the eraser, then I smudge/blur it. That might work? -- 20:44, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded did it work??? --

Smooth the shading on the tail? <span style="">21:12, 5/05/2017

Leafstorm (Star) ~ CBA


I think the stripes might need to be softened a little around the edges and maybe smooth the shading too. Also, there might be a little bit waste under the paws. 10:35 Sun Apr 30 2017

Re-uploaded

There's some waste near the ---> ear and in the circle the tail creates. Looking good! ^^ 15:02, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

They look cross-eyed 18:17, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks Vec! @Danny In all honesty, I used the same pupils for every one of my StarClan cat images.

Is the entire back in shadow? It looks darker than the elbow and <- side of the tail, also the stripes look more dense on the deputy

Adding onto my previous comment, maybe make the dorsal stripe thicker to help make stripes look more dense

Re-uploaded ????? the back is not in shadow??

I didn't REALLY think the back was in shadow I just don't know why the elbow is lighter than the rest of the image.. is it a highlight?

On the deputy, it looks the legs are paler than the rest of the pelt, so I think it's just that way to match.

So do i change anything...? they're highlights, btw

I think you don't need to change it. Define the tail and face shading just a tad? 00:17, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry but this has been bothering me. The dorsal stripe just switches colours halfway from the head, and it looks like two stripes of different colours joined into one. :P Also, the brighter part of the stripe, is it on a different kosher? It looks sharper than the other images and unconnected. 02:54, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

There are highlights ​Winter, and highlights can change colors to a different shade. <span style="">03:00, 5/03/2017

Yes, but the stripe looks almost plastered on and isn't smoothed out between the other stripes, almost if it's above the other stripe layers, if you understand. :) 04:40, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded :T

I don't think you did reupload (also why do you have two dates on the reservation table??)

... i did reupload, i see the changes. also one is for the tweak

Re-uploaded tried again

I think the dorsal stripe still needs to be smoothed and you don't need dates for tweaks

Re-uploaded

Might be just me, but the part where the lines stop seem to be a bit... sharp? Try smoothing out by adding a layer with lower opacity or smth ;P this is like so awesome i cant even

Re-uploaded

CBA? <span style="">21:14, 5/05/2017

Rippleclaw (E) ~ CBA
This needs some work

I think there's texture on the other images? ErmineGlow (talk) 20:55, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes a bit; they seem rather solid compared to the others, especially the StarClan image. 20:56, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

I know it's probably just me, but this seems almost white <span style="">21:43, 4/30/2017

Reuploaded Stripes look too soft I think.. And ya it does seem white but it's the same color as the other images

Oh that's weird I didn't see ErmineGlow's comment. Yeah I couldn't tell if there was texture or not

There's texture, I'm pretty sure of it. 22:35, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ooh I'm excited that the texture actually somewhat resembles texture bc I had no idea what I was doing

Hello yes OA of the warrior image here. There's a lot of texture on that. I may or may not have been experimenting when I tried that image. The stripes are also drawn on with a size one brush and smudged; these stripes are a bit too smooth. Also, the base is meant to be this pale, Broken, since he's silver-and-black, not gray-and-black. Also brighten up the ear pink a bit.

Reuploaded Ayy I feel like this is comin along nicely :D, I forgot to check which image came first so I was mostly tryin to copy the starclan image, hence the smoother stripes, lack of texture, and wrong color earpink. Tomorrow I'll define texture a lil more and adjust the facial stripes

Smooth out the stripes more. They look too sharp, compared to other images. --

If she does smooth them, they'll need to be smudged, not blurred; remember, Neon, warrior is first in this set.

Idk if it's just me, but the shading seems a little flat. Also, define the light a little on the face? 20:24, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wooow texture is fun

Shading on tail could be defined.

Could you define the shading overall? —  Minkclaw   19:50, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Adjusted stripes and defined shading

The stripes look thicker on the star and warrior

Reuploaded

CBA? <span style="">00:35, 5/04/2017

The stripes under the shading look gray? If it's just me, or there's a valid reason for it, then resume CBA when it originally started. 23:42, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

No you're right :( but idk how to fix that

You darken them? <span style="">00:29, 5/05/2017

Perhaps darken the shading that's over the stripes? 00:33, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

I cannot darken black stripes Broken, and I did try darkening the shading but it's tinted so it looks worse, but lightening the shading helps.. but I don't want the shading to be too light

You can if you believe. Also, maybe try changing the tint? <span style="">03:13, 5/05/2017

Reuploaded I don't want to change the tint if I don't have to so I tried putting stripes over shading layers since they were darker anyways but if this doesn't work then I'll change the tint :'( tbh I think it looked better when the stripes were under the shading, now it looks flat

I think you'd be fine if at this point you just darkened/defined the shading a tad. 03:36, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Re-CBA? <span style="">14:31, 5/06/2017

Stoneclaw(A) ~ For Approval
Tonypaw (talk)

The image isn't there. 02:50, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

think i got itTonypaw (talk) 02:53, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the chest and behind the front leg a bit. Not bad at all. 02:54, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

There is waste between the two whiskers on the left side of the face, our left. 02:56, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

done i hopeTonypaw (talk) 03:02, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Is this your first image? It's really good! Anyways, perhaps define the eye depth and add shading onto the <--- ear pink. 03:23, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

thank uTonypaw (talk) 03:28, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

The eyes look more green than amber. --PyroNacht (talk) 03:33, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

i colorpicked from the star, but i changed it anywaysTonypaw (talk) 03:40, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

You reserved the kit image, not apprentice

whoopsTonypaw (talk) 04:12, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

This looks really great so I'm moving it to 'For Approval'. I didn't see you in the project list, but if you decided to join later, you'd be ranked as an apprentice now.

Your resevervation is still for the kit, not the apprentice. 22:42, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

fixed my goodness also why is my name redTonypaw (talk) 23:47, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Your name is red, because you don't have a userpage. As for the image, add shading to the chest by the leg, as in this source there wouldn't be any light there, and define the shading depth <span style="">23:59, 5/02/2017

im not going to add any, as i was going through the archives, jayce said people didn't have to add shading there but i will define the shading depth--Tonypaw (talk) 00:02, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

done--Tonypaw (talk) 00:10, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe define the leg shading on the closest back leg? Not the haunch, just the leg & paw. Also, smooth the belly, chest, and neck shading. 00:15, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

think i got it im just not gonna be here for a while im going out--Tonypaw (talk) 00:33, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Add some shading at the base of the tail? 04:06, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the face shading leaking onto the <-- ear? --  20:41, May 3, 2017 (UTC) nvm

Grasskit (CP) (Star) ~ For Approval
I actually really like this a lot. It also took longer than I expected, but thanks for the file Skt~ Also sorry for lack of PCA work, I've been playing Zelda alot lol <span style="">00:51, 5/03/2017

Are his eyes yellow or green? If they're green, they look a bit like yellow-green, unless my eyes are tricking me again <span style="">00:58, 5/03/2017

They're the exact same color as the other Star image <span style="">00:59, 5/03/2017

The stripes and paler parts seem smoother on the kit image. 00:59, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

The kit eyes seem a bit more greener than this one. And Snek, that might be because of the shading or such <span style="">01:00, 5/03/2017

Oh my god, sorry. I didn't pay attention. His eyes are yellow xD Sorry! <span style="">01:03, 5/03/2017

Yeah I had fun with the shading, the stripes and paler parts are actually a lot smoother underneath :P <span style="">01:08, 5/03/2017

There's one teensy tiny speck of waste near the tail. This is awesome! (Windwaker's pretty cool, if you've played that one yet.) 01:16, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I've never ever ever had waste, so I'm pretty sure there was nothing there but meh :P Also, no actually. Breath of the Wild is the very first Zelda game I've ever played, believe it or not lol <span style="">01:22, 5/03/2017

There's a first for everything...define light on tail? (I've never played Zelda but I've read a manga-type book that my friend let me borrow)

The stripes seem a lot softer and less smudged on the kit. 02:49, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

@winter, ive already explained why it looks rough above, its because of the shadong, but ill get to starlights comment in a few hours (at work) <span style="">16:43, 5/03/2017

Reuploaded i ended up smoothing the stripes a tiny bit anyway <span style="">00:24, 5/04/2017

I know you are not obligated to do this, but I wanted to put it out there. I designed this pattern off of my cat that unfortunately, died recently, and he had stripes on his back and that's what I intended when I did my original image ;; like I said, you don't have to, and if not I'll try to snag another brown tabby in the future  01:23, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Breath of the Wild is addictive, I feel ur pain brah. Anyways, I think the back looks a bit grainy and greenish, can you blend it so it looks more brown? --

Hey Ivy, you mind telling me where youd like the stripes? If not ill just put em somewhere. And @neon, thats actually part of the pattern <span style="">19:40, 5/04/2017

Here's an old picture, thank you so much http://90scat.deviantart.com/art/I-Iz-Perchin-Kat-123384145  21:50, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the back stripes a little paler too just to match a little better with your kitty <3 sorry for your loss, they're a gorgeous cat. Lemme know if I need to change anything else :D <span style="">00:40, 5/05/2017

There's waste outside the chest. Smoothen out the shading on the pale part of the chest. And smoothen out the small patch of pale part on the elbow a bit. 02:10, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Winter theres legit no waste. Maybe check for specks on your screen? I never have waste. Ill get to the rest tomorrow <span style="">03:02, 5/05/2017

Is that waste? http://vvcap.com/img/AsGfshnbZ2r.png That light brown dot? 03:09, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can you try circling it in red next time? I spent like 10 minutes trying to find it. ;; Also my shading style is supposed to be sharp-ish, so I only smoothed it a little <span style="">11:53, 5/05/2017

Jumper (L) - CBA
i've had enough of looking at this so here. I copied off the rogue and loner because they're both before the kit, which is why the black on the face is different. (I'll get that strip of whatever on the leg later.) 02:39, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Pretty much the whole chest and belly should be black, and black looks darker than other images (does that mean the other images need to be tweaked? o.o)

reuploaded i'm pretty sure the dark on the chest of the rogue is shading. and it looks darker than the rogue because I didn't colourpick off that, it looks more dark grey lul. 14:48, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

withdrawing 20:43, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Taking over, using collar lineart from David's version, and I think I gotta play with the patches a bit more. Also, the rogue was first, and I personally don't think that it looks like shading, (especially when looking at the original version before it was tweaked) so I went with that instead of what David had. The kit doesn't match at all, so I didn't even bother using that.

Woah, cool, you're allowed to do that?? :0 :) Anyways, smoothen out the shading on the lower half of the ---> front leg. It looks like it was a gradient and smooth and then just stopped. This looks nice. Should we nominate the kit image for matching the black patches a bit better, maybe? 03:08, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

I've got a feeling it's probably the colors and the contrast and blend and what not, but the earpink seems to look like its leaking. Unless you're made black and white cats like this before, or that's intentional, then whoops <span style="">03:52, 5/04/2017

Re-uploaded. Shrank the amount of black on the underside of the tail too. The ear pink isn't leaking. It's not mandatory to fill the entire ear area with ear pink, so that's what I did. No blank has a requirement to fill that entire section; it's just a matter of preference. Also, the collar color is slightly lighter due to me thinking he's probably had that same collar for ages so chances are it's probably faded in coloring by now lmao.

I feel like the collar should be the same color though, because he was leader when he was not that old as far as I know, and wouldn't Scourge's collar have to be tweaked to be a more faded color then? I'm very tired so I probably don't make sense <span style="">04:03, 5/04/2017

Well, actually, not quite. I'd say that each blank depicts a different period in time. The rogue image could hypothetically be from early BloodClan times (or when the cite first says he joined BC), and this leader cite is from the Ravenpaw's Path graphic novels. That's quite a time difference. Also, no, don't go tweaking anything; this is just a preference of mine that I thought was kinda interesting and shows that not everything is from the same time period. It's kinda like how if we don't have a cited collar color, it technically doesn't have to match.

Still feel like it should be the same, but hey, whatever. Guess it is a bit of a time gap, but I don't feel like the collar would have worn out by then, as the Ravenpaw comics took place when Leafpool and Squirrelflight were still kits, and Jumper's collar wouldn't be that worn out yet, but that's probably just me. I used to draw BloodClan cats and put nicks and tears in their collar to signify its worn out state <span style="">04:12, 5/04/2017

But as per the rules, I technically am not required to match the collar color at all unless there's a citation for said color. Which there isn't, and it's kinda feeling like you're forcing me to change it. =/ That's actually not that bad of an idea hmmmmm.

I'm not forcing anything, just got that feeling like it should be the same, but I guess the color is the artist's choice after all^ Gave 'em a more fiercer look imo. I loved that style of worn-out collars when I used to draw Brick and Bone or Scourge <span style="">04:16, 5/04/2017

Re-uploaded. And because we have no cite, now his collar is purple. chances are I might change it (don't hold me to it) in the future, but for today, I'm in a purple mood. and I also added some facial shading because wow it looked flat.

tbh I couldn't tell what was black n what wasn't, so I gave up on it. can u define the face shading a bit 19:35, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

CBA? <span style="">21:15, 5/05/2017

Loki (Ro) - For Evaluation
I hope this is okay. It is my first attempt at a black cat.Streamdapple (talk) 11:26, May 3, 2017 (UTC)Streamdapple

Try not to align your image please Rainbowmistake (talk) 13:06, May 3, 2017 (UTC)Chat

Align the image? What does that mean?--Streamdapple (talk) 20:31, May 3, 2017 (UTC)Streamdapple

This needs renamed to File:Loki.rogue.png —  Minkclaw   13:13, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Your shading, I don't know if its me, seems a bit all over the place. I can't tell where your light source is coming from and nit needs smudged quite a bit. —  Minkclaw   13:14, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Here are the hex codes from the kittypet('cause I'm the OA of it, and I have the exact colors) Fur:1a1a1a Eyes:9cff00 Earpink:ab4538 (Shading tint is optional but here anyways:6f4dff <span style="">15:53, 5/03/2017

Stick (L) ~ CBA
Not totally happy with this but it's nice to take a break from studying and do chararts ^^ 19:12, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

He should have a torn left ear or right, idk, and I feel like there is a bit more ragged fur..I don't know, it just seems different then the other images. Maybe the stance won't show as much ragged fur <span style="">19:46, 5/03/2017

Broken, the ear is already torn <span style="">20:01, 5/03/2017

Reups No, Broken was right. I was in the middle of replying when there was an edit conflict. I got distracted and didn't comment here right away. My fault, not Broken's. Anyway, thanks for the comment, Broken. I knew I was missing something. And, I agree. The stance doesn't completely allow me to show a lot of ragged fur, though I did add a tiny bit more. 20:04, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Is there any light in the eyes? It looks like it's covered in shadow, and thank you Vec^^ And your welcome <span style="">21:32, 5/03/2017

Reups Another thing I was forgetting haha 00:43, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

CBA?

Sparrowtail (Ro) -CBA
23:44, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

The eyes seem a lot more greyish-white on this than the other images, which have blue eyes. :) 23:55, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The eyes are blue, or at least they're supposed to be? I colorpicked again from the kit and replaced the color, so hopefully that solved the issue. 00:04, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? Looks great c:

I'm still seeing gray eyes. Could you tell me what your hex codes are? Not breaking CBA since this isn't that big of an issue and might be how Wikia displays their images; not a user-generated problem.

My hex codes for the eyes are #5c6969, #c3d8d8, and #e5f3f3, which are light blue -- I know they're not super bright, but the eyes aren't super bright blue on the kit or warrior, either. I colorpicked the values from the kit/warrior multiple times, but that doesn't mean I got them right. If you think they need to be brightened at all, I'd certainly do so. 13:11, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Rushtail (WC) (Star) ~ For Approval
Wut have I done? I've gone insane from my mom listening to Beauty and the Beast (It's good but I just want to drown it out with Castle on the Hill cause that's how I like it)

Lighten the shading a bit Rainbowmistake (talk) 00:04, May 4, 2017 (UTC)chat

Can you smooth out the shading a little also? 00:06, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

I can't really see the pupil <span style="">00:19, 5/04/2017

re-up I might just go for a sharp shading style if this doesn't work out. I'm not sure about the pupil because I'm worried about it turning cross-eyed. I'll define it later though.

The base color looks a little too light, and I think the earpink in <-- ear should be lighter since the earpink on the elder image is in shadow, and this ear is not

The tail shading is looking too... little? But anyways just expand it.

I colorpicked...did the elder's OA use highlights? Also what color should I make the earpink?

Can you smooth the shading —  Minkclaw   19:23, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

re-up "I'm on my way..."

Define the light on the tail 22:38, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

re-up I'm not exactly happy with this.

Define the pupils a bit, they're sorta hidden by the highlights. 03:23, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail tip and near the base of the tail, smooth the shading some more on the flank and the < leg where it kinda looks too defined? And define the shading depth a little <span style="">21:17, 5/05/2017

Strong Pounce (Ki) ~ For Approval
okay let's try this again shall we? —  Minkclaw   13:28, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the front leg farthest from us? Rainbowmistake (talk) 14:37, May 4, 2017 (UTC)Chat

Re-Ups —  Minkclaw   19:17, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth a little, and expand the light on the chest. 20:44, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

There is waste on the right side of the image and by the paws. ErmineGlow (talk) 21:21, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Echomist (Star) - CBA
I'm so shocked this hasn't been approved already.. <span style="">13:51 Thu May 4

can you define ear pink a tad? This is absolutely stunning, Sun —  Minkclaw   13:56, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded This is as much as I can do, as it still needs to match the other images. Also messed with the shading a little bit. Thanks Mink ^^ <span style="">14:01 Thu May 4

Maybe define the shading depth just a small bit? Your Chararts are awesome, Sun! <span style="">16:20, 5/04/2017

Could you smooth out the little line of shading by -> ear a little bit?

Reuploaded That's as smooth as I'm making it. <span style="">17:35 Fri May 5

CBA? <span style="">21:17, 5/05/2017

Wildkit (RC) (Kit) ~ For Evaluation
Rainbowmistake (talk) 14:47, May 5, 2017 (UTC)Chat

Reups: Changed the file name, smoothed the shading and added another patch Rainbowmistake (talk) 14:29, May 4, 2017 (UTC)Chat

Smooth the shading a lot more. Also don't change the file name. It just makes it harder for admins to find and delete the old file. <span style="">14:45, 5/04/2017

Define the ear pink a bit? 14:47, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Reups: You can delete Wildkit the old one Rainbowmistake (talk) 14:49, May 4, 2017 (UTC)Chat

Can you spread out the shading, smudge/blur the ear pink, and define the eyes some. —  Minkclaw   15:51, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

This looks a little too blue, maybe make it a tad more grayish to make it look more realistic? 17:42, May 4, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe try using #576970 or #4c5e65, the second one might be too dark —  Minkclaw   19:22, May 4, 2017 (UTC) I will also rid waste Rainbowmistake (talk) 21:31, May 4, 2017 (UTC)chat

Smooth out shading a lot more KatsCandy (talk) 08:40, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

The shading is very flat. --

Kats, do not repeat comments <span style="">11:18, 5/05/2017

Ill upload in an hour, I'm actually very proud of this :p and thanky for the hex codesRainbowmistake (talk) 13:08, May 5, 2017 (UTC)Chat

Reups: Can someone get rid of the white background for me please? Rainbowmistake (talk) 14:45, May 5, 2017 (UTC)Chat

What program are you using? I know how to remove the white background in GIMP so I could explain how if that's what you're using. Also smooth the shading. 15:21, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Ill upload on mon, and i figured it out, i use pixlr Rainbowmistake (talk) 20:57, May 5, 2017 (UTC)chat

Also how to snooth out shading? Rainbowmistake (talk) 02:19, May 6, 2017 (UTC)chat

To smooth out shading, you can set the blur tool at rate 100 and check the hard edge box or move the hard edge scale all the way up. (Broken told me that. :P) It really works! 02:53, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Oki, thanks Rainbowmistake (talk) 03:52, May 6, 2017 (UTC)chat

Is it okay if I turn this transparent? I wouldn't do anything else to it, just download it, throw it into GIMP, and transparent it? Also it doesn't seem you've added depth. You can create another layer, and go over the especially darker parts of the shading to give depth. --

If you want to, I'd really appreciate it Rainbowmistake (talk) 13:17, May 6, 2017 (UTC)chat

No neon, this is rainbows image. Rainbow all you have to do to get rid of the white background is use your wand selection tool in pixlr, select your lineart layer, and then select the areas around the lineart, but not inside. Then press delete, or erase the areas that are highlighted, and then press ctrl+d to deselect <span style="">13:18, 5/06/2017

Ok, I did figure it out after a while Rainbowmistake (talk) 13:23, May 6, 2017 (UTC)chat

Thrushtalon (Star) - For Approval
I'm really proud of how this turned out! Tried that one fancy thing with the eyes, probably not as good as ya'll who do it with every star charart. 01:07, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Define the <--- pupil? It's a little hidden. 01:10, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Dorsal stripe seems a little too smudged out in the middle--mind fixing that? Looking good!

reups It was actually a highlight, but I removed it since it'd probably just cause more problems in the future, you know? Anyways, is the pupil better now? 01:20, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Blur the shading/highlight on his back? Cool! I might try something like this too soon <span style="">01:29, 5/05/2017

reups I wasn't quite sure what you meant since I removed the highlight, but I smoothed the flank shading and the dorsal stripe a bit since it was a bit pixely. 01:40, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

The stripes seem to look softer on his other images.

reups 04:10, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

At least on the bottom half of the flank, under the dorsal stripe, the stripes a little tiny bit more dense. To match the elder, since that's the image that shows from that side of the cat, even though the warrior's the first.

I think there's a bit of shading leaking between two of his toes on <--- paw, unless that was intentional. 20:24, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading a little more on the flank and chest/legs area <span style="">21:18, 5/05/2017

reups 22:40, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Is it a rule that you have to colorpick eye color? (I may be totally wrong on this but I thought I'd point it out anyways) I know that the warrior and elder images have much less room for eye depth but the colors on this look like a different shade of green to me

As long as it has the same shade of green in the eye it's ok, but if it throws off the colors too much then it should be changed <span style="">13:12, 5/06/2017

Curlypaw (Ki) ~ CBA
Yayy final one in the set. 02:02, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

I think that little bit between the legs should be all in shading as the light wouldn't hit there? Maybe, I'm not entirely sure - still getting use to a pair of glasses at the moment ^^; 08:43 Fri May 5 2017

Ok, I'm not asking for a second opinion or brushing it off, but isn't this the case where Snowed said different sources are alright and don't have to match correctly? Does it need to be completely in shading? I'd just like confirmation, then I'll change it. :) 02:19, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Actually, you did technically just ask for a second opinion, and I think that no matter how you look at this light source there should be shading there. 04:28, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 04:37, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Just gonna pop in like you asked and say that Danny is correct with this; it's under the cat and unless your source is from below (which would be neat someone needs to try that), there should very much be no light there.

Also asking for a second opinion in this case is more of a good idea than it is bad; many light sources exist, therefore making sure it's right (or damn close to it, same thing) isn't something I'd warn for. It's kinda like asking for help in class if you're not 100% sure your way would get you the desired results.

Pretty^ CBA?

Snowbird (R) ~ For Approval
Doing something simple. Also had some issues posting this from mobile, but that's solved now, sorry

Smooth out the shading on the base of the tail and the flank a bit. 19:14, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Smooth it out a tad more? And on the head as well <span style="">21:19, 5/05/2017

Reuploaded dunno if it made much of a difference

Stoneclaw (W) ~ For Approval
I guess now we'll never know who their parents were. :( 03:00, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the patch of shading depth on the back a little <span style="">21:20, 5/05/2017

Deerpaw (TC) (Star)- For evaluation
KatsCandy (talk) 08:37, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

My first helpful hint is to not align your images - as it can mess with the page's formatting. Second, this should be called File:Deerpaw (TC).star.png and there is a fair bit of waste around the image. I would also perhaps recommend getting in contact with the artist of the image you are matching for the file so that everything can match spot on. ^^ 08:41 Fri May 5 2017

Can you clear backround? – 10:15, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the spots, also can you add around Deerpaw (TC) so we can get a link to her page? --

She is long-furred, like charart of appretince – 11:00, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hey yeah I'm the OA of the apprentice. I used pure white speckles and smudged each slightly, and there's also texture on the other image. The earpink seems off in color, and also, define the eye depth a tad. If you need the file for it, shoot a message on my talk page

Reedshine (MV) (Star) - For Approval
matched as best as I could to the warrior (since it's the first in the set). 08:38 Fri May 5 2017

This is beautiful, maybe define the flank shading a bit? (I really love this) Rainbowmistake (talk) 13:27, May 5, 2017 (UTC)Chat

reuploaded 21:00 Fri May 5 2017

Smooth the shading a little bit on the flank <span style="">21:22, 5/05/2017

reuploaded 21:29 Fri May 5 2017

Maybe add some more speckles to paws and define the stripe that connects to -> eye?

Flashnose (A) - For Approval
colors were picked from the warrior. 13:46, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Can you brighten the white muzzle just a little bit?

Re-uploaded.

Can you smooth that pale orange patch on her eyebrow a little? <span style="">21:25, 5/05/2017

need the file?

Re-uploaded. atm, i don't think I need the file, but I'll give you a message if that changes. 03:06, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like the cream spot on the back leg closer to us is a little more blurred out on the warrior image and on the tail I think the ginger should blend a little more with the cream

Ratscar(A) ~ For Approval
15 minute job, but I reserved it while I was in school. Wasn't sure whether or not to add scar, since the scar is what gave him his name, but let me know if I should remove it <span style="">22:41, 5/05/2017

can you recede the scar a little, it looks more like a flank wound. 00:49, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

I actually don't think the scar would be present because it never said he had it as an apprentice, and the cites for it are from his warrior rank, and so it'd be an assumption to keep it.

But wasn't he named after his scar? Tbh, I'd like clarification before I remove it I guess. And no, I don't think it's a second opinion. <span style="">01:07, 5/06/2017

Sure, he was named after his scar. Just how Halftail was named after his half tail, and as we see in SH - he has the name of Halftail as a warrior. Who's to say he isn't named something else than Ratscar at first? We don't assume anything here, for the same reason that we don't add '-kit' and '-paw' names to articles, we don't add physical traits to art until the rank we have them cited at no matter how clear it may seem.

Re-uploaded! :/ <span style="">01:15, 5/06/2017

Why the :/, Broken? It's literally part of the rules; you're assuming he had the scar as an apprentice, even though we have no cite for that.

Also, can you put the eye layer above the shading or something? Or alternatively you can just define the eye white on <- eye (sorry it's kind of like a pet peeve for me)

I don't think I have to remove it? Snowed said before on Shivering Rose's medicine cat apprentice that I don't have to, but I may need her word instead of being told to stop asking for second opinions. <span style="">03:04, 5/06/2017

The shading can stay how it is; imo it's just a style preference and the same as having ear pink under a shading layer, I'd say. Also in this case, asking for a second opinion is completely reasonable as it is something that one would consider more of a preference instead of a problem, for lack of a better phrase right now.

Stone Song (P3) (L) ~ For Approval
dumping it here rn becaue work burnt me out, I'll fix it up later 23:00, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 01:58, May 6, 2017 (UTC)chat

Tbh i can see the shading really well, and so far all your comments have been extremely nitpicky rainbow. I think either you need to change your computer settings, or stop being so nitpicky. Its getting a little annoying :/ <span style="">13:06, 5/06/2017

I meant the tail shading, and I'm not trying to be I'm sorry Rainbowmistake (talk) 13:19, May 6, 2017 (UTC)chat

Define the facial shading a bit, David? Unless it's intentionally looking like this? idk I know you were probably tired as heck when you posted this.