Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Foxheart (Alt.D)-For approval
hope you like it (First Real Chartart) Rainear 03:39, June 29, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

Sorry, this will have to be declined, Shimmerpool had him reserved first.  Dawny  03:45, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

No that that users is "Alternative Warrior" mine is "Alternative Deputy" Rainear 03:49, June 29, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

Opps sorry.  Dawny  04:14, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I took him out of thumb nail for you. You should always upload it full size. As for the image, the lineart looks very strange, and it's way too big. What art program do you use? Second, It's not the same color as the deputy image Foxheart already has. This is yellow as apposed to ginger. Third, there's no shading at all Night  Fall 06:15, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks very strange...I would say to layer a deputy image on it. Add shading. The pelt color should be the same as his warrior image. Make the ear pink smaller and darker. Icefall★ Talk 14:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks as if you traced it. Did you? Icefall★ Talk 15:03, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it shows up waaaaaaaaaaaay to big. Like you saved it about three times the normal size of the file. And, it does look like you traced the lineart. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! It's tooHOT!   15:15, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Also, rename it Foxheart.deputy.alt.png Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   18:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Here:use this and color it in. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 02:46, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I used My Paint if you want to know :) -Rainear 19:04, June 30, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

You should use GIMP or Pixlr to do chararts. This is too big. Use this blank:--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine is right. Use one of those programs, and save that blank to your computer. ☽Ice storm★  19:19, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Please use GIMP or Pixlr to add shading. Layer over the line art I gave you onto your image--  Night s h i n e    ~  20:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I Dont have Gimp or Pixlr all I have that works with the template is Paint. Rainear Med-cat of Riverclan

Okay, first, this needs to be bigger. Right-click the image Nightshine gave you, press, 'open into new tab' and then save that blank. Go to pixlr.com, and open the image. Then, you should probably re-do it/layer the lineart over this image. Then, darken the shading, blur it, make the ear pink smaller, darken it, and blur it. Also addd shading to the front of the haunch, tail, and face. ☽Ice storm★  21:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Also, use a tutorial for the eyes. Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   23:37, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, you don't have to start a new section when you are redoing it. Instead use the old section you put up, then put the image there. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 14:41, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I've merged the two sections. Please continue to edit from here. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  21:11, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I haven't read Bluestar's Prophecy at all but, how is Foxheart described in the alternate version? (Time for a trip to the bookstore xD) Quailflight  05:17, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

lol, yes. In the allegiances of Bluestar's Prophecy, she is mistakenly described as a tom. And, in Battles of the Clans, there is a chapter where Foxheart is a tom throughout the entire thing. But I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be a she-cat, especially after reading Secrets of the Clans. The Clan suspected Foxheart as being the secret mother of Brokentail, so you know xD Night  Fall 05:19, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-How is it now? Rainear  be as silent as rain

Add shading. Ashshadow Ag 03:00, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Added shading Rainear   be as silent as rain

Blur the shading and there is color outside of the line art. Ashshadow Ag 03:23, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Blured shading (Hope it's better XD) Rainear   be as silent as rain

Not bad for a beginner, but lets get to business. It can be a tad hard shading when your image has a transparent background so you probably see some gray smudges around him. That came from your work of burning my dear friend. Plus it looks like you ran over his eyes with the burn tool as well with changed his eye color. The coloring is kind of darked than Foxheart's original image so try dodging it or desaturating it some. Which ever you prefer :) Once thats done then you can blur in the shading as it looks a little choppy to me, but that might be my computer.--  Gladiator  Band Geek  05:03, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Blured Shading even more to make natral fixed eye and It's not darker than the origanal Charart Rainear   be as silent as rain

Is it better or worse? Rainear  be as silent as rain

Reloaded-I know no one mentioned but I looked at the Foxheart page and his eye color is light green so I change the Charart's eye color. Comments? Rainear  be as silent as rain

It has been a day and a half and no one else has commented is it ready to be acepted? Rainear  be as silent as rain

You should wait at least five days, if not a week for asking for comments. As for the image, blur the earpink. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  02:47, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Also, the line art on the jaw looks a bit odd, as if some of it is missing. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  02:48, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-I fixed jaw lineart and I blured/redone the ear pink. Comments? Rainear  be as silent as rain

Oh! I added some shading/highlights on his face. Any Comments/suggestions? Rainear  be as silent as rain

This has an unusual texture that I don't normally see, and it's very pretty. You did a nice job. =) There are a couple of things though; the front foreleg's shading's transition is too hard; blur it and add some more shading down the leg. Add darker shading to the hind paws, as those would be in shadow. Add a little more shading down the tail and blur the existing shading slightly. Off image critique now; I moved the image to the top of the section; please keep it there so it's in a consistent spot. Also, you seem to be only typing three tildes instead of four; please type four so the timestamp will be there as well as the signature. -- 12:19, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-I did what you said bramble and sorry about the tail I did what you asked but I think I blured the transaction too much Rainear   be as silent as rain  15:31, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is there anything else that needs to be done? 21:02, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

You should wait a few days before asking if anything needs to be done, but I see that there is blurred lineart by his left ear, and on his left leg and haunch, but if it's shading I'm seeing instead then you should blur it. Tiger X Amber We see Heart to Heart 12:20, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Thanks Riverpelt fixed the ear, leg, and shading :) Better?

Darken the ear pink and darken the shading a bit. The chest line art looks a bit funny, overlap it with another of the long haired deputy blanks and it should be good. The line art also looks strange around the front of his haunch-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:22, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Darkened the ear pink and tried to darken shading and fixed the Line art

Thicken the shading on the haunch and blur all of it. 13:33, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Did what you said Ashshadow :) . Better?

The red part indicates that the shading is blurred and theres also some color mixed up. The blue indicates color outside the line art and the line-art color is changed. Lol..it's kinda messy xD I don't have a good stable hand. 17:51, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's coming along nicely. Darken the shading a tad. 17:48, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Tried to fix it hope it's better XD

Blur the shading. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:46, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I reverted it to one of its original forms as the shading is lovely right as it is shown now - it doesn't need to be changed further. Saturate and brighten the ear pink to have it stand out a touch more, but don't make the transition hard, and I'd call this good. -- 02:55, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

You took the words right out of my mouth, Bramble! (Seriously, I said the same things, clicked save and it gave me the edit conflict thing) Anyways, I think you should make the eye a bit brighter. It looks really pale. 03:19, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The tail color where it's not shaded looks...brighter than the rest of him. I'm not good with pixlr or gimp or whatever, but maybe blurring the shading just there would help. Don't mess with it otherwise, Bramble and Dove are right, it looks amazing! 11:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art is still blurred and some of the line-art is brown. 19:07, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the entire thing, this is brown-ish compared to Foxheart's other images. 70.64.149.241 05:37, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Just got back from camp fixed it up. Except it is not brownish and I took the color from the deputy Image so yeah! Comments?

Rainear, even if you took the colour from the other images the colour will be different because of shading and highlights, and your shading could've made it look that way, too. Even if you took the colour from it that doesn't mean anything. If you compare it to her other images the colour on this is duller. That was me above, by the way. 05:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

And almost all of the lineart is blurred. 05:25, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Looks awesome :) just fix some line art on his ear Dusksong 21:13, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I just wanted to point out that Pixlr is a website, and a very handy one at that.

Zor th Highly   Explosive  01:32, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

None of the line art is blurred Dovesong and Dusksong, I checked and I don't use Pixler or Gimp I use My Paint and I think the coloring is just fine Dovesong

Make the ear-pink noticeable. And the line-art isn't blurred because they fixed it. 02:15, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'll fix the ear pink (could you give me the color example Red-pink Salmon pink) and I checked the saved copy on my computer Frostheart

Well, I guess just a bit more noticeable. xD A bit pinker. 16:37, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's awesome, but try to define the ear-pink a bit more. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  23:05, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Done (Still not shure) and yes the ear pink is blurred. Comments? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  14:21, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, but try to make the ear-pink blurred, a bit? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:04, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. Blur it a bit. 20:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, the lineart is blurred. I've checked a million times and again just now. It's supposed to be hard pixels. And like I said before, this is very dull in comparison to her other images. . . also, please don't call me dovesong. Not only do I just dislike that name, there's another person on here called dovesong now, so yeah. Thanks. 05:57, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Also, the shoulder lineart on the shoulder looks different. And the ear pink is very pale. 06:01, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art looks fine to me, and make the ear-pink...salmonish? And blur it. 22:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the chest and head, and front of the haunch. 03:18, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Guys. I took the image and looked at it in GIMP, the lineart wasn't hard pixels like it's supposed to be. If you took it and put it in GIMP and went close up you would see the lineart isn't pixelly. 04:28, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I see it too, Dovesong. Rainear, look at the line art close up in GIMP and then make it one solid colour. 13:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I also see it. Spread the highlights more. 19:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, finally! Also, it doesn't matter too much but I'd appreciate it if you'd call me Mosspool, because there's a different person in the project called Dovesong. Thank you! Also, someone to all of you who don't know I'm pretty sure when Rainear says My Paint she means a downloadable program which is pretty much has all the same features as pixlr. 00:18, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I researched it and it is. 02:02, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-(Sorry it took so long but I was working on my new Wiki XD) and yes it is the same program your talking about but I got it in a Email I got. I spreaded the shading looks like there's no shading at all though, Fixed line art again (Like the 4th time), and sorry Mosspool Rainear   Let the rain guide you  05:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. By 'My Paint' I thought you meant 'Paint' and by capitalizing the 'M' I thought it was just a grammar mistake. :P Blur the ear-pink still and make the highlights more noticeable. 01:31, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Blurred ear pink and changed/redone shading Rainear   Let the rain guide you  07:13, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a lot and make it more reddish, blur it-- 20:22, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Tame the highlights abit. Sorry if that sounds hypocritical. xD 23:16, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I would darken it again but when I darken it people say to lighten it, then darken, then lighten, and I'm really tired of shanging it :P. but I will fix the highlights Rainear   Let the rain guide you  23:43, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a little more. The one by the shoulder looks a little funny, but that could just be my monitor. Willow heart  1231  23:49, August 30, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Yes, the shoulder highlight is kinda low. 05:00, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's also a bit too far to our right. And the highlights looks kind of...dusty. 22:47, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the chest shading. 23:22, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-I redid the hole Image to make it look 10x better so how does it look now? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  03:10, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur it. Blur the ear pink-- 15:24, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Fixed and blurred shading. Comments? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  01:38, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading a bit. Blur the ear pink.-- 01:41, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. I'm VERY picky about ear pinks >.< 02:28, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Fixed shading and ear pink. Comments? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  02:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and ear pink more. -- 20:56, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back shading and earpink. (I'M STOPPING IN TO SAY HI :D) Tawny (Talk) 21:54, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

it's still a bit dull compared to Foxheart's other images. I suggest opening this in whatever program you use and having Foxheart's image open and try to match the colours. 04:33, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well, here's Hawkheart. I like him about as much as I like Thistleclaw. (I. Am. Not. A. Hawkheart. Fan.) Still, I thought he'd be fun to do. All character art is fun to do! Hawkheart was a bit of a challenge, which made it even more fun. Gotta go see the coverart for The Sign of the Moon (I saw it while I was uploading)! Yay! So, comments? I'm kind of happy with how he turned out. :) Holly  dapple  04:19, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, but we've got to figure out which style we're going to use, yours, or Moonpelt's. Personally, I prefer Moonpelt's, it looks more flecked. But that's just me Night  Fall 04:38, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Nightfall. I know my Hawkheart doesn't look like Moonpelt's. I was thinking about how I was going to do Hawkheart for atleast four days. I really liked his/her style too, but I just can't smudge it in that cool way. I tried, but it looked horrific. I am not joking. I can't make it smudged without messing it up. Holly dapple  04:51, July 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well if we're using yours, lets blur in the flecks some more please :) I can see a bit of sharp edges in some a little. They are like REALLY sharp, but they're very defined and kind of make it stick out.-- Cchslogo.gif Gladiator  Band Geek Treble_and_bass_clef_heart.png 05:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. All spots blurred with Photoshop Elements, Shimmerpool. Did I get what you meant? I saw it on the throat patch particularly. Man, I'm sleepy. But TW is over, so I can get back to work! Yay! Anyway, if there are any other areas in particular that look weird, let me know, please. Holly  dapple  06:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

This looks nice. I have two small suggestions: the ear pink is a little big and is almost falling out of his ear. And the highlight on the shoulder, as well as the spots could do with some more blending. Perhaps try using the smudge tool a little on the spots and then blending. It takes some getting used to but looks good. 12:05, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Fixed the earpink, blended the highlight, and smudged and blurred the spots. I kind of like this. :) But I was wondering if since he's supposed to be "flecked", maybe he should look more like Ashfur or Ferncloud? Oh, and before I save this, if I don't respond to any messages right away, that's just because I may not be able to get to the computer (what with the homeschooling, cats, computer, and heat!). But I didn't smudge the paws because two of my cats have shag-rug long fur, and their paws are not smudged. Holly  dapple  05:03, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, maybe he should look more like Ferncloud and Ashfur. Darken the shading around the forearms and haunch a bit more-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:24, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that if you add a few smaller flecks to what you already have then it will be fine. 11:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. I added a few smaller flecks...I don't know if I messed it up. I darkened the shading around the forearms and the haunch. Do I need to darken it a touch more? Holly  dapple  21:04, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Add more tail stripes and darken the shading on the forearm and chest-- 23:06, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * smacks forehead* I forgot to reupload...ugh, stupid Hollydapple. So technically, now he's reuploaded. I did everything I said above...sorry. Holly  dapple  21:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Define and blur the ear-pink more. 20:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

He looks great. But can you...maybe add some more shading on the haunch? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

He looks wonderful! Maybe add some more stripes on his tail? 20:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks. I added more haunch shading, more arm shading, and more chest shading, as well as the tail stripes. I didn't understand quite what you meant about the ear pink, Frostheart. What do you mean by defining and blurring the ear pink more? Holly dapple  17:03, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ending is a bit rounded, make it more straight to be like a triangle. Other than that, this is fantastic. 00:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks, Frostheart! Don't know if I blurred the ear pink too much. If needed, I'll make it more opaque. Holly dapple  21:25, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller. 21:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. 22:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I just redid the earpink completely. Holly dapple  21:11, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more defined and blur it some more. 22:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks like its falling out of the ear, trying moving it further up. -- 03:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the haunch a bit. 19:53, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little lighter--make the color more neutral. Maybe add some speckles to his tail? Willow heart  1231  23:52, August 30, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Smudge the chest patches a bit. 23:24, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the ear pink smaller and darker. And blur it. 17:31, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller, darker, and blur it. I agree with Icestorm. I hate Hawkheart, and may StarClan light your path. 02:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Try and make the ear pink a bit more triangular Tawny (Talk) 21:56, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry it's taken so long. I had the image with the suggested changes at that time ready a few days ago, but Wikia convinently closed off the uploading, and I couldn't get to it for a few days. The ear pink has been lightened, shrunk, and more defined. It looked better lighter than darker, so that's what I did. I may go back and change the ear pink so it's further in the ear, but I'm kinda busy right now. I added a few speckles to his tail, Willowheart. They're kinda small, but...they're speckles. :3 Oh, yeah, and the haunch has been lightened. Holly dapple  04:04, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hold on, for some reason my changes didn't show up. Lemme try again tomorrow. Sorry! Dumb internet. *starts muttering about lousy dialup connection* Holly  dapple  04:59, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Foxheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well I think I got the colors right for this one and I counted right so it should be under the limit...unless someone beat me while I was uploading this x] Here's Foxheart as a male :3 Commentsto let me know because I think I might have to darken the image.--  Gladiator  Band Geek  04:42, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

You did WAY!! better than me. XD (Foxheart Alt D) I think it looks awesome!! :D Rainear   be as silent as rain

Good! blur the highlights. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 09:32, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit. Dawnleaf 19:22, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Updated my updates shall come at a slower rate now that school started for me today.--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:41, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * mine does not start till september 6 lol blur the earpink a little bit more :) and dont laugh at my siggie its two last names meshed togeher  Sandle  GregxSara forever 16:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the ear pink.-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:25, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading. 00:57, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit bigger. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:42, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

The tail shading really doesn't need blurring nor does the ear pink need to be larger. I do agree it needs to be a touch darker and blurred. The midriff shading seems too large and is rather dark and blotchy; further the highlight from his chest area down and make the midriff shading thinner and less in the way. -- 02:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if this is probably a stupid question, but can you please explain the midriff Bramble? Also do you mean the whole image needs to be darker and blurred or just the tail? My mind is overpowered by school work so I'm falling behind on this art O_o please don't decline guys.--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:54, August 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * The midriff is between the haunch and shoulder area. It's okay, no problem, my mind is overpowered by school work and marching band, too, so I understand compltely. :) 20:37, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Smooth out the darker shadow patch on her shoulder. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 03:54, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks Ice...well updated--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 18:26, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Make the ear-pink a bit reddish. 03:14, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks great, but can you try to darken the ear-pink? I can barely see it. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:08, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Make the ear-pink a bit deeper. 20:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * The highlight on the tail looks a bit weird. 22:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded...and you might actually want to say whats weird about it--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 04:51, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Define the ear-pink to make it like a triangle and lighten it, it looks very bright right now. 19:54, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry Frostheart but that doesn't make any sense. Why would I need to lighten it some if you say its bright?--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 21:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

To darken it is usually to make it deeper shade of red, but either way could go if it is too bright. By make it lighter, I meant make it more salmony or pink..xD 01:32, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * T_T I'm about to seriously stop listening to anyone about color changes. Thats back to original color that I had the ear pink, the exact color I got from Foxheart's original image. This problem has happened too many times and I'm considering to take a break from this and go hiatus...Reuploaded--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 16:57, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. 17:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading in some places.-- 22:18, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken it as well. 23:26, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a TINY bit darker. 02:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok I couldn't take it so I decided to compare the two images side by side and made my version lighter like Foxheart's original image. You guys are making me almost make him a dark ginger at the rate we're going. Here's the original image to look at to help prove my point now

I know my highlights are like those but they are kind of hard to get like that...anyway, Updated--Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 03:54, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Waspwhisker (W) - For Approval
I counted and this was the 35th, and this is Waspwhisker. Any comments/critisism for him? S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 08:15, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Fixed blurred lineart around body S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 08:15, August 7, 2010 (UTC) '''

This is great! Blur it a little more, though. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 12:12, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Ashshadow Ag 13:37, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

The patches are unevenly blurred, A N D Y S C H L E C KMousehis now obsessed!  15:37, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Fixed up some of the patches, I don't know about the shape, but I blurred and darkened the shading. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 22:24, August 7, 2010 (UTC)'''

Theres blurred line-art on the back, and the ear pink needs to be blurred a bit. Also darken the shading, otherwise this is pretty good :) Dawnleaf  22:27, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: I tried to darken the shading, do you mean to burn it so it gets darkened? Thats what I mostly did, I blurred the shading and fixed the blurred lineart. Can someone do the scar for me? pixlr is all fuzzy for me right now. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 06:24, August 8, 2010 (UTC)'''

Dude, the scar I drew was bad, but I added the scar for you Sunny. Hope this is good enough Earth  bender Tawny Style! 17:27, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Thanks Tawny, It's great. Comments? S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 05:13, August 9, 2010 (UTC)'''

Your berry welcome Sunny. ;P So far, its looking great. Myself, I can't see anything wrong. But maybe...theres a patch near the ear pink. Blur the gray part just a TAD more. Earth bender Tawny Style! 12:55, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, the scar kooks unrealistic. It's unevenly blurred, like before. 16:00, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if this really matters, but isn't his pattern a little. . . far fetched? I thought he would just be gray with white markings. ♫ mosspool ♫  the new dovesong! 20:24, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

If it is bad, I can honestly start it again, if the scar's unrealistic. But Thats up to you guys. Should I just start him again??? S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 21:53, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the scar you guys, Sunny, I have an original version of Waspwhisker without the scar if you like. But if you have a version,...then you know... Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:20, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that the pattern is a little unlikely (but what do I know of cat genetics?) and perhaps starting over would be a good idea. Persevere though because this is almost there and your second try will be infinitely better than your first. I haven't read SD so I don't know where the scar should be, but having it drag over his flank, midsection and chest area seems a little... well not quite realistic. 12:08, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: Tried a different style. I'll add in the scar later. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 23:48, August 10, 2010 (UTC)'''

Blur the patches more. 23:56, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink 00:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Much better Sunny! Darken the shading and make the ear pink more pinkish. Perhaps darkening the eyes too. 02:30, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Waaay better. Blur the patches and ear pink a bit. Also, the highlights need to be blurred in some places. ♫ mosspool ♫  the new dovesong! 06:18, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Dawny & Mosspool AKA Dovesong! Is this better? I darkened the shading a tad, and blurred the patches. S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 09:13, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

There's a blurred spot outside the lineart on his chest you should remove, and maybe blur the highlight a bit more in between the haunch and the left foot, but very good Sunspirit! Tiger X Amber We see Heart to Heart 12:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches a little bit. 20:15, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Blurred patches, fixed lineart and blurred highlight. LOL i just figured out that you weren't supposed to use the smudge tool for a blurring tool XD S U N S P I R I T ☼ Best Furry Friends Forever! 07:17, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. This image is a gray and white patched cat; do you think he should look more like he did in the SkyClan manga (Gray with a white muzzle, chest, and underbelly)?-- n i g h t  s h i n e  15:00, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it has to. It matches his description and the manga is just how the artist pictured him. Feel free to ignore me. 16:27, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, as Night said, blur the patches and earpink. 00:56, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on his haunch a bit more. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:41, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I made a different version, sorry if thats inconvenient. Choose which one looks better or something. 09:37, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The first one. The patches just need more blurring. 13:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I perfer the first one. The shading on the white fur needs darkening though. 19:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Did as everyone asked. Nightshine has got a point about the magna, but in the magna Ravenpaw didn't have a white dash on his chest, and he did in the books. I'm horrible at making gray & white chararts! 05:32, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot-- 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's great, but it looks kind of flat. Add some highlights and more shading 02:16, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. The shading on the white fur needs to be darkened. 18:14, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, i don't know how to darken it! I've had a guess, but how does everyone blur everything without touching the line-art? 01:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

To darken the shading on the white fur, set the burn tool to "Highlights" and set the exsposure to 6. Blurring just takes practice ;) 05:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Dawny! Darkened fur color, is this anywhere near done? XD 06:03, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lineart on the bottom of the haunch is blurred. 12:29, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Line-art around haunch and back is blurred. 20:40, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I love it! But like someone said, can you fix the blurred lineart? It's also blurred near the tail. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:09, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is a bit brown right now. Blur it, also. 21:00, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry everyone, I will upload it tomorrow, pixlr wont let me get on today. 06:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the transitions a bit. 12:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the spots a bit more. 22:42, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I blurred the patches, fixed the line-art, blurred transitions and everything else. I also made the highlights more visible, because I had them before. Is this better? 05:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The tail looks a little bit blurred, I think. 17:44, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the back paws a bit, they look like a very pale gray colour on my screen, rather then white. The lower part of the haunch as well as the tail, has some blurred line-art. Darken all the shading, particularly on the white fur. Other then that, I think it looks pretty good. :) -- 03:45, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't a white she-cat suppose to be a very pale gray? If its slightly darker, it's probably due to the shadows the other legs are casting. 01:33, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, a white cat is supposed to be very pale gray. I'm just trying to point out that the back paws look a little too pale gray, and that they need to be lightened in my opinion. -- 06:02, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. xD The flank (I think..xD) that connects with the back-paw line-art looks blurred. 15:34, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I think this is Ok! Comments? 05:43, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the gray-white transitioning, and darken the shading. Theres a lot of blurred line-art by the haunch, tail and ears. -- 05:54, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred line-art near the haunch and some blurred-lineart on the back. 15:12, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. 23:27, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches too. 17:32, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading and highlighting, and blur the patches. 02:34, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I've blurred everything... I Hate the line-art. I know this is going to be on here for ages. If this is not good, I don't think I should do Waspwhisker anymore and leave it to another user. The blurring I've done is horrible... this is no-where near done :( 05:47, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Rockshade (W) - For Approval
Fail, fail, EPIC FAIL!! I am NEVER doing a black cat again...ha ha they are unlucky. I know the highlights on the shoulder are too noticeable, but if I blur them anymore, then the color goes missing because photoshops blurring is too strong. So...comments? Earth bender Tawny Style! 15:25, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Use a darker color for the highlight then you should use Pixler.com or Gimp although I use nether, I use My Paint but I alway have to remake the background to make it transparent Rainear   be as silent as rain  17:49, August 8,2010

Blur the shading, make the highlights darker. The shading is also lumpy and seems exactly black to me. Make the highlights smaller. Frostheart ♥  17:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I fixed the highlights, shading, and I lightened it. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:28, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 19:08, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are basically taking over the complete picture now. Just redo the paint, add some shading as you would. Blur, then just midtones in highlights, and click once or twice. Make sure it's not bigger than size 50. Frostheart ♥  19:47, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

He looks dark gray...I suggest making the image darker. Dawnleaf 19:53, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I realized that something changed in the pixlr highlighter, so get rid of the highlights, redo the shading and choose a slightly lighter color for the highlight, choosesize 50 and just pretend thats the highlight. ^^ Frostheart  ♥  22:07, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED:Frostheart, I use photoshop, not pixlr. (I only use it to delete the white part). Anyways, I darkened the image,fixed the highlights. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:30, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights smaller and make the shading noticeable in the leg area. Frostheart ♥  02:37, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I made the shading a bit more noticable, but I epically FAILED on the making it smaller part. ;P Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 13:52, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's much better now. Just even out the shading on the hind leg. That's it. xD Frostheart  ♥  19:12, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Ifixed the shading on the hind leg. Suggestons? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:08, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch,otherwise this is great! :) 22:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little lopsided. 03:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks fine to me. 13:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Same here. And actually, black cats are lucky in Europe, and white cats are bad. 0.o 12:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: fixed the hind leg shading. Suggestons? Tawny is here... 22:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading.-- 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Where, specifically? (sorry, but I'm starting to get demented ;P)


 * I'd say to thicken it on the chest and haunch but not the midriff, and to blur it everywhere =) 08:59, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Thickened the shading, but the shading on the haunch won't blur anymore, I'd HIGHLY appreciate it if someone could help me with the blurring, and I also lightened the highlights because I thought they could have used some brightning. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 16:11, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I opened this on GIMP and I don't think I blurred it that well. xD I think you darkened the shading too much. 16:23, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Frostheart! Yeah, my shading is now like permenatly black on like all settings, I don't know why. Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

You should change the opacity, it usually is on 50 you can change it to like 20. :P For Gimp, just adjust the thing at the bottom. :P 18:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I took your advice, Frostheart. Fixed the shading and lowered the opacity. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm very picky. xD The ear-pink is very blurred.... ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  22:56, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Great :( ... do I have to re-do it, or...un-blur it (is that even possible?) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 00:44, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is what I do :P. I color pick the area nearest to the ear-pink (the highlights,shadows etc) I fill the pink with that. It's okay if it isn't the exact same color. Choose an ear-pink color make a triangle, blah and then blur it. The blurring should even out the pelt color if it wasn't the same. 14:37, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to fix the earpink, but I made it MORE blurred I think....Random Question, but Frostheart, are you an apprentice or warrior for the PCA?

Yeah, I'm an apprentice. Why? :P

I just thought because you give good advice that you'd be a warrior, and you are very helpful!! :D Well when you get your 5th charart approved, I'll definatly be cheering for you!! Anyways, back to charart, any critcism? 00:23, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a little whispy, are you using a smudge tool? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:33, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hehe. Thanks. ^.^ 02:54, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

No, I don't use the smudge tool, I use blur...but I've noticed that it's looking sort of...whispyish. I'll fix it ASAP. 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder, school starts on Monday for me, so I'm not going to have that much time. So on Monday, someone is free to take this and continue to work on it, if that's allowed... 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'll work on it a bit if you'd like, and if it's allowed. :P 17:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading.-- 18:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: That'd be great, Frostheart! You can start the work immediatly on Monday. And I blurred the shading and highlights as much as I could. 18:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Am I allowed to keep up my Jagged Rock photo and help you work on this? 19:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it depends. I might leave Charart for a few months so I could focus on school work, but basically, yes. But I need to talk to Bramble about it... 19:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, don't leave. :( 23:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

lol if I don't my dad will murder me (it's happened before...) But I won't leave forever! Basically, I would only come on for like the weekends and a month at a time because my main goal is school work. But definatly by December I'll be a full member again.

Just blur the shading more and this should be ready-- 01:17, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :) Please leave messages on my talk-page to know your alive. :P Just blur the shading a tiny bit, it's great. 02:03, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading more, but if I go any harder, my computers gonna blow up at me. And don't worry, I'll stop in every now and then to tell you that I'm alive lol xD Any more Comments? 13:27, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Try blurring the haunch and chest shading a bit more-- 17:33, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading as much as I could. Still, theres barely a difference :( Someone else is going to have to try and blur it, because my computer will NOT cooperate when it comes to blurring (first it was too strong, now it's too weak) 01:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Comments before approval?-- 20:23, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights and shading really need to be blurred. But hey, isn't Tawny leaving the project? I suppose someone could always just touch it up for her. 17:43, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree with Mossy, but I don't know about Tawny. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:46, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Since Tawny has left the project, is this going to be archived? 15:33, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Well, she did give somebody permission to work on it, I think. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:57, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

If someone takes over, blur the shading. 23:28, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

She said I could take over, but I still have my Jag photo up, and I'm pretty sure that has to be archived first. :P - 02:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Frostheart, when you get a chance to work on this, give him a torn ear :3 12:00, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :P 03:49, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (W) - For Approval
Eh. Comments? Geor ge 00:04, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Define ear pink and make ear pink slightly larger Rainear   be as silent as rain

This looks very nice, but the ear pink is gray and very small. ♫ mosspool ♫ 00:30, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Is this over the limit?  Sand  It's not your fault Texas 01:34, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, there are five discussions and one withdrawn image.

Anyway, darken the stripes a bit. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 01:56, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger and pinker. Frostheart ♥  02:35, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

This good darken the ear pink a little and make it tad bigger and darken the tabby stripes a little Honeyfeather 07:35, August 9, 2010 (UTC)Honeyfeather

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Geor ge 13:25, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is sort of a gray color right now, make it pinker or redder. 14:11, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

He looks more patched than tabby. Perhaps define the stripes more.. 23:29, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Same as Ashshadow, he needs to have more defined stripes. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:Teal; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Iceɦɛɑrŧ 23:59, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The style is a bit messy. I think you should darken and define them. 00:29, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I actually like the indefinite stripe pattern; not everything has to be precise, especially in the natural world. Other comments on this? I do agree that the ear pink color needs to be changed to a brighter, red/pink color. -- 03:19, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Dang, forgot to say, '''Reuploaded. '''Comments? Elorisa -sama  12:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree that not everything has to be precise, but he really looks patched to me right now. 20:32, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I put up another image to consider. It is in the style of Heathertail/Brindleface, and then there's my pitiful "patched tabby" attempt. Which should be used? Elorisa -sama  16:33, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I, myself think that the first one should be used, but many others may disagree with me. Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:02, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The patched tabby one. 00:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I like the striped one personally. But for the character, go for the patched one. 02:21, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Not to be rude, or anything, but could we come to a decision soon? I am doing the apprentice pic, and I have to decide what style to finish it in =P Thanks 03:37, August 23, 2010 (UTC) ...Oh, and for what it's worth, I prefer the striped one.... but you know that already, Elorisa =)

So 2.5 votes for patched and 1.5 votes for striped (I counted Frostheart as a .5 vote for each cuz she liked both), patched WINS!(unless some else votes ;) ) 17:19, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

.... I supposed I'll have to redo the apprentice pic either way lol.... COUGHCOUGHSOMEBODYELSEVOTEFORSTRIPEDCOUGHCOUGH...... =D 03:11, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Guys, no one ever said this is a vote. Personally, I like the patched one better, but Elorisa can do whichever they want >.< 03:24, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't a matter of votes. I just looked up Creekfeather, and I believe it's supposed to be a tabby. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  22:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The patched one is supposed to be a tabby. But in my fail world, that consittes as a tabby. in most other peoples worlds, everything has to be perfect >.< I'm not sure what I should do...I might just withdraw it to spare some pain... Elorisa -sama  00:29, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

NO!!!!! I LOVE this picture! 10:26, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I like the first one as it looks more natural. Keep whichever of the two you like Elorisa and don't withdraw this because either way it is close to approval in my opinion. When you have decided which to keep we can go from there. 12:27, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

They're both very pretty. The stripes are very cool, and so are the patches. The ear pink is kinda small on both of them. Make it a little bigger. The shade is perfect for the cat, I think. Good job! Holly dapple  21:34, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink triangular. 22:44, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I have decided. The weird first one is my decision. Elorisa -sama  11:56, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it's not really weird, but you spent most of your work on it...And I like it too. 13:56, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish and this should be ready-- 17:32, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Also make the ear-pink more like a triangle. 19:55, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the back shading. 17:34, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Honesty, I think this should be approved. It's awesome! But, It wouldn't hurt to add a bit more tabby stripes. 02:42, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) - for approval
20:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

My first cat. I don't know about it... 15:43, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Plumwillow.apprentice.png and blur the earpink.Also, I'm pretty sure this is over the limit.-- . Silverstar  . talk  15:50, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

This is good and like silverstar said blur the pink ear XXRainfeatherXx 15:54, August 10, 2010 (UTC)Honeyfeather

I think it's blurred enough, but the corner is touching the ear, make it shaped and make it lighter. Frostheart ♥  17:14, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too pink. Make it a bit darker. It's amazing for your first cat! <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  17:22, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

The top of the haunch needs blurring. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:01, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Er... like Silverstar said, this is the 38th charart up for approval on this page, which is over the limit. This project talk page is only allowed to have 35 sections (chararts for approval) at a time. 雨晶須 夏天來了! 21:53, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

So what do I do? Should I make the corrections or is this taken down and sorry, I miscounted.68.84.233.244 23:29, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! That was me. I thought I was signed in. 23:31, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I made the ear pink not touch the line art, darkened it and blured the shading and thanks Rainbreath. 19:23, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

You still have to rename it to Plumwillow.apprentice.png --''' . Silverstar. talk '''00:13, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I forgot to mention that, but I did it. 01:32, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

No, you didn't. You called it Plumwillow_Apprentice.png. I know it's pretty small, but hey, my coal warrior one was originally called Coal.Warrior and they changed it for one capital letter. <font color="#26b1c8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:#ffffff">♫ mosspool ♫ <font color="#26B1C8" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:white;"> the new dovesong! 05:53, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry mosspool, I fixed it now. Is there anything I need to change with the image? 16:00, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller. 20:11, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and darken the haunch shading. 00:27, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Darkened and blurred shading.--<font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:Blue;">Will <font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:Green;">oww <font style="font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:Yellow;">hisp <font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:White;">GO<font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:White;">WARRIOR <font style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:black; color:White;">CATS 02:25, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the shading around his hind-leg, and maket the ear-pink lighter. 04:10, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how to fix the shading on her hind leg because every time I blur it, it gets bigger. What sould i do 18:26, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

On the blur tool, make it a very small brush and zoom in so that you can blur in detail around the haunch area. Blur thoroughly in that area so there are no hard lines between any transitions. The ear pink color is fine in my opinion. -- 03:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? 19:09, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights slightly. 19:51, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Blurred highlights. 15:33, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading a bit more and make the ear pink smaller-- 01:29, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? 15:26, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The highlights look beautiful, but the one on her front leg is in the middle of the lineart. I think you should move it back some, so it's more in the middle.

Re-uploaded Better? 01:18, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think this looks lovely. CBA? 09:13, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a lighter. It looks purple right now. I feel so bad for ruining CBA. Dx 02:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry Frostheart, if it's not ready then I understand. I'm at my mom's work so when I get home I'll fix it. 20:13, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, now that I don't have to feel bad about ruining CBA (lol Frostheart), it looks to me like there's this little dent on the top of the earpink. Perhaps you could smooth it out a bit? 05:15, August 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Might I just say that it's not about 'ruining CBA' because when a senior warrior puts that on an image it's a matter of their opinion that the image is ready. The whole point of having CBA is that this project isn't a dictatorship and that the senior team aren't infallible. =) 12:31, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, Sandy, but you got to know that feeling where you see "CBA" and you go OMG MY CHARART IS ALMOST APPROVED and you get all excited and then somebody comments and it's all like "noooooooo...." lol you know what I mean? 20:04, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine though, I only saw Frosthearts thing and then Sandy's. Anyway, better? 20:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Maybe blur the shading on the top of the haunch a TEENSY bit. Just a tiny bit and then it looks perfect to me =) -- 21:12, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight near the shoulder. 22:46, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-upload Better? 23:52, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it more still. 17:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish, its like hot pink right now. Also blur the shading on the haunch a bit. -- 03:52, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm so sorry about my inactiveness if that is the real word. I have had a sleep away camp till now and I'm at my mom's work, but the computer won't download the pic so I will do this for sure when I get home, but I am in another camp now so this will be done in about...10 hours. Again, I'm really sorry. 12:30, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

It's alright. For the image, it is lovely and well done, I just see that the haunch shading needs blurring. 14:08, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? 03:07, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

It needs a bit more blurring, then it will be ready. 17:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlighting and ear pink. I am famous for being PICKY about ear pinks! JK, I'm not famous. 03:12, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the upper haunch, there's a pretty obvious separation between shadow and highlight there. 13:09, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Billystorm (KP)- For Approval
I can't get the earpink the right color. The eyes... what do you think? idk Darkhallows... Mew? 22:27, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the eye highlight slightly smaller, lighten the white, color the nose, and darken and enlarge the earpink. That was a mouthful. 22:30, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

His pupil should be black, no? 22:41, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the white parts whiter and make his foot completely white. Darken the shading a bit. There is some blurred line art around the collar-- n i g h t  s h i n e  22:50, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add some white near the arm and the haunch. 22:55, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ice, there doesn't need to be white there. It looks like his image from the manga and his warrior image-- n i g h t  s h i n e  23:05, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. On the warrior image, he has a white stomach, but nevermind about that then. 23:19, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

The white sort of looks ginger-ish. Also, blur the highlights. And he needs nose pink. Also, his eye lineart looks grey instead of black. And his ear-pink is way too small. 02:58, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the colllar tag the same colour, and there is some colour outside of the tag. 16:41, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ehh... This was somewhat experimental. Is he better now? I didn't blur the highlights- those were there to show faint striping (if you look at a cat in the sun, you'll see them.) Darkhallows... Mew? 21:35, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Why did you get rid of the collar tag? I just wanted you to make it all one colour :S 21:40, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I had some formatting issues... somehow the tag disapeared, I wasn't trying to get rid of it. I just fixed it. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:44, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it more reddish-- 21:51, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Done. And changed to Billystorm.kittypet Darkhallows... Mew? 22:02, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink more and darken the shading a bit more, excluding the back shading.-- 04:38, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

The white on his tail covers almost half of it. It should be smaller. Also, in his other image he has white on his belly and such. That little space by his leg and haunch should probably be white as well. 22:03, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Darkhallows... Mew? 23:14, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The white still covers half his tail, and there's still no white on his chest. 05:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry! Fixed. Darkhallows... Mew? 05:43, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The foot thats mostly hidden wouldn't be white. Thats the back of the foot, not the paw. 21:21, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a deepish red. 03:19, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

There's still too much tail-white if compared to his other image. 05:48, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, at the top of the haunch. -- 22:16, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit deeper. It looks hot pink to me, then again, it could just be the color against the orange skin. 22:50, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry this is taking so long. I was switching internet providers (again) and now GIMP isn't working. I'll try and fix this in a few hours. Darkhallows... Mew? 01:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should lighten up the ear pink. On my screen, it looks like it's blending in. Willow heart  1231  00:12, August 31, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

(S) - Does he have a white underbelly? Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:04, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yes (I think) 00:57, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he has a white belly. 02:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is just not visible. Darken the shading a bit. 14:12, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Try making the ear pink a darker hot-pink-red. If that doesn't work, try a dark, scarlet red. 03:16, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I just redid it. It's not showing up yet, though. Darkhallows... Mew? 04:43, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Still not working -_-. Darkhallows... Mew? 08:37, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Jagged Rock Where Heron Sits (Ro)- For Approval
Total Fail. Criticism/Comments? 18:22, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Add some darker mud as well as the mud he already has but it's good a side from that. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  18:29, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the brown patches more. 18:31, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the mud some. 18:33, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is over the limit-- 18:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's the 35th one. I counted it three times. 18:50, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

It's the 36th. Sorry. 19:05, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

One is withdrawed, I believe this is the 35th. 19:09, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Whoops. 19:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I added a dark mud and a light mud one. 20:36, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The mud streaks are too thick. Mak them thinner. 21:28, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Which one is better? I just did a whole new one. 23:06, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I like the second one best. The earpink looks sort of...weird, like there's a dent in it, but my eyes might be playing tricks on me. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  23:24, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The second one looks better. 12:16, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - The second one's color looks better, but the stripes are to thin, in my opinion. 12:21, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the mud streaks a little more Rubyblaze 13:19, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred mud streaks and fixed ear-pink. 19:41, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the mud streaks should be blurred anymore, but maybe you should smudge them to give it more of a streak sort of look

I smudged them, but I'm not so sure. 16:37, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Should it be non-smudged or smudged? Opinions? 03:04, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dunno.... Also I can barely see some of the mud streaks so can you define them a bit more? Don't define them too much though. 12:47, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's your computer or something because I see it fine. 16:41, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Guess it's cuz I have bad eyesight ;) 17:16, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Do what the others said. Other then that its good.^u^ <font color="981f1f" style="background:Gold">Breezestar <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> Only a Breeze... 19:47, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more triangular 20:48, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is as much as a triangle as it can get. :P 21:04, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps make the mud on his shoulder (where ther highlights are) more defined? They look to blurry to me XP 04:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't get rid of this other one. I have two pics in my files titled "jaggedrocksits.rogue and jaggedrockheron.rogue" So I got confused. :P The modify and remove button won't appear. Anyways, reuploaded 05:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind fixed it. 15:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. 16:08, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yay. :P 17:46, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten this a lot. It doesn't looks like his caveguard image that much: Rename this Jag.rogue.png. Make the ear pink more reddish and define the mud streaks. Darken the shading-- 01:23, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. :) 01:57, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I think Hag`s cave guard image needs to be darkened a lot anyway as he`s silvery in that one while Jag is dark gray. I think you should just leave it dark and nominate the other one for the next tweak week, because his images do not look dark gray. 03:40, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Getting confused now..xD 04:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten it. For now the Chararts should be consistent. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  06:13, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm just saying, they look silvery not dark gray but for now I suppose Iceheart is right and you should leave it. I was just making a point. And fail, I called him Hag XD. Make the mud streaks darker, longer and thinner. 18:46, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is very confusing. xD Reuploaded. 20:04, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry xD Blur the mud a tiny bit. 21:49, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Stupid Gimp's blurring keep on making the stripes lighter. 02:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come? : 20:09, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't the mud streaks be smudged, like the other Tribe cats? These look a little unnatural to me. xD-- 23:25, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Gah! First I smudged it then people said 'define it much more' now your telling me to smudge i. Again. Sigh..waiting for a third caller. xD -- 23:33, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The mud looks fine :D Besides, it's about as smudged/defined as his cave guard image ^ And all mud isn't going to look exactly the same ^_^ 23:36, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yay :P Hehe. -- 00:58, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? 15:44, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Define the Shading and the Hilights. It looks all one color to me. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 16:58, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I personally think if I darken the shading some more, it'd look really weird and blotchy, even with a good blurrer. (blurrer. xD) if I get any other complaints about it, I'll change it. -- 17:05, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should darken the shading aswell. --  <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt     <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come? : 18:56, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Thw streaks on his shoulder just seem too... straight, for lack of a better word. Could you make them more bent, or natural looking? Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:52, August 30, 2010 (UTC) Too straight? xD I don't really understand that, could you clarify it? Reuploaded -- 21:02, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the mudstreaks a little more--I agree with Mosswisker&Stealthfire that they do look a little unnatural. Maybe add some more shading. But it looks well right now! Willow heart  1231  00:06, August 31, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Reuploaded -- 15:31, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his back. 22:35, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Sorry, Frostheart! What I meant was, they get the streaks by rolling in mud puddles, so they wouldn't be perfectly straight lines. They'd be thicker, or something, I don't know! Hehe, maybe you couold get your cat to roll in mud, hehe. ^^ Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:10, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have a cat...xD. And if a cat rolled in mud, wouldn't their pelt be soaked? With a tiny tint of their real fur color? Eh? ;D -- 21:11, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - double XD Yeah, but then we wouldn't be able to tell them apart! Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:28, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me :D I forgot to sign. Anyway, blur the shading on this back. I agree Stealth, the mud streaks, at least the ones on his legs, should be longer. 22:35, August 31, 2010 (UTC) Kay, I'll upload it tomorrow, I'm trying to live life itself before school starts. :) Then I can have something to look foreward to when school starts, xD -- 02:13, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Great job Frost. Thicken the shading. 17:39, September 2, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded. -- 22:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Well done. -- 23:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC) Something is wrong with the image adder right now, so I won't do anything until it is fixed. Which is weird, because it was working fine just 2 days ago before they 'fixed' it. :P -- 22:38, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Mintfur (SC) (A) - For Approval
It should be under the limit because Gorsestar's warrior pic got declined. This is my first one, and I did it on pixlr. Willowheart1231 01:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

The tabby stripes seem odd. Make the ear-pink smalker and more neutral. The line-art is blurred in his leg area. 01:40, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripes are cool, but more should be added. 02:33, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink some more. 11:57, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Willowheart1231 21:47, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

The kit picture doesn't have any stripes on the chest. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  21:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Most tabby kits are like that anyways. 22:20, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

So... no stripes on chest? Willowheart1231 22:40, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

You could afford to add some more stripes. And by the way, most of the time people don't draw stripes on the kit image's chests just because they can't. .. just saying. It looks lighter than her other images, too. Darken it a bit. 23:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkeded it a bit and added two or three more stripes. Willowheart1231 23:37, August 19, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I think you need to brighten up the ear some more, I can't hardly see it. 22:59, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Brightened ear pink. Willow heart  23:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I still think you should remove the chest stripes. For consistency. 12:19, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure. I made her kit image a long time ago when standards weren't as high as they are now and people not quite so picky so I was never asked to add stripes to her chest. Dovesong: It wasn't that I couldn't draw them, rather that they weren't asked for and I did the image in a different style. I'm quite happy to add stripes to her kit image if this is deemed the better version. 14:21, August 21, 2010


 * (UTC)



No i'm doing the warrior version and i didn't put stripes on the chest and i agree with Ash that they should be removed. But aside from that i like this picture. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  20:33, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so. Real tabbys do have stripes on their chest, and usually on the kit images, they don't put stripes on the chest because they can't. 15:30, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone tell me stripes or no stripes on the chest? Thanks! Willow heart  01:36, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

For consistency, like Ash said, i wouldn't. The images should look all the sameish. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  04:35, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Most tabby kits who become warriors have stripes on their chest. Their could be a few stripes on kits chest, but most people don't do it. 16:43, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Took off chest stripes. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 21:28, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Good choice now sorry to bug you about the stripes again but you should have more stripes on the back across from the chest and blurr them a bit. <font color="Teal">Iceheart <font color="Silver">Destruction by Ice would Suffice  22:07, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Add some more stripes. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 23:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

In my personal opinion, remove the stripes again (LOL. OPPOSING MINDS xD) the stripes looks crammed. In my personal opinion, the other one was much better because of the akward transition of the stripes to no stripes. Just my opinion though, ignore it. LOL. 23:26, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

The second stripe on the top of his back has this little white glob on the end of it... and maybe make the earpink a teensy bit smaller 02:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think your talking about the highlights. 14:31, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

No, I wasn't, but it's gone now, so did you change it Willowheart? It looks fine -- 21:58, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry, Wildheart, about that. I did change it, and you were right, there was a whiteish blob at the end. Do you think I should change the ear color to match Mintfur's ear color in her warrior image? (See above, her warrior image is still being approved) <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 23:26, August 25, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Reuploaded. Changed ear pink color to match kit picture. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Maybe go over that one stripe again because it got a little fuzzy when you blurred the little white blob out. Otherwise, looking good!! -- 05:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Remove some of the back stripes. It looks crammed. 15:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thank you Wildheart! Does that look better, Frostheart? I also want to say thank you for your invaluable advice! Though I still have a while aways to get this pic high-quality. =D <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 23:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Hehe thanks. xD The ear-pink line-art is blurred and make the ear-pink a tiny bit smaller. 02:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps shrink the earpink a little bit - it seems like it's touching the lineart. -- 05:12, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. The earpink is filling the whole ear-space. 14:27, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art seems blurred on the head, ear, and the fore-arm closest to us. 19:27, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. AHHHHH!!!!! Mintfur is starting to make me crazy.... Sorry for not getting back earlier--school has started and it is like a nightmare! =D Frostheart, I checked the lineart, and it wasn't blurry, but I went over it anyways. Willow heart  1231  03:11, August 30, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Make the ear pink a tiny bit smaller. -- 04:25, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink line-art is still blurred. 04:56, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Add some stripes to the muzzle. 17:46, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hey fellow warriors! I'll get it fixed once my computer bug gets fixed. I'm using a different one. Willow heart  1231  01:50, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Finally got my computer back! Reuploaded! Willow heart  1231  21:51, September 4, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Shrewtooth (W) - For Approval
My second Charart, I didn't know an eye color so I did yellow, comments?  ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:05, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is uneven. Blur the highlights and shading a ton. 15:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? Or more?  ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀ GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:43, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing a bit. Make the ear pink smaller. Blur the shading and highlights-- 17:32, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I lightened it, but I didn't want to overdo it (so it would still look like a black cat), I made the earpink smaller, and I blurred the shading and highlights over again, better? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 19:03, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and blur it. Darken the shading and blur. If you want highlights you should lighten them-- 19:09, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten it a tad bit more.

<font color="Green" font face="Papyrus" "background:gray; border:3px solid -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Zor <font color="blue" font face="Papyrus" "background:black; border:1px dashed -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">th Highly   Explosive  01:16, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still uneven. 18:23, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think blurring the earpink more will fix that. 13:55, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I decided highlights were too much work, so I took them out. I lightened it a bit (I think) blurred the earpink, and shading again. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:27, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred a lot. 14:29, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Do you want me to add highlights?

I agree with Frostheart. The shading needs to be blurred a lot. Maybe blur the earpink some more as well. And Totallytawnypelt? I think the highlights would be a nice touch! <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:59, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

D E F I N E N T L Y blur the shading. Sunny frost  01:12, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Totallytawnypelt, once I blurr the shading more you can add the highlights. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I seem to be doing a lot of blurring, and I'll do some more now just in case! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I just figured out how to make the blurr tool more effective! Yay! Here I did more blurring, hopefully it's enough. Comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Or did that not help? (Sorry but i can't get my cursor past your siggie) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:28, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I can't add highlights because there is a large part on the chest that is quite transeparent (I opened it up in photoshop to add the highlights), so just fill it in with the color of the shading...

Make the ear pink smaller. -- 20:28, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I tried to make it smaller but now it looks sorta weird, comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink like a triangle. 22:56, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I made it more triangular, is it good enough? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 23:51, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it's great. Add shading to the back-legs (like the legs behind the front legs not the legs next to the tail..) 03:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I think I understood what you meant, but if not let me know, comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:37, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just letting people know I'm going camping from August 28 to at most September 3, so don't decline the charart before I get back, then I can work on editing again. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:44, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I added the highlights, and filled in some transeparent parts of the lineart, but theirs some by the paw that I couldn't really fix... And I know that the shading is kind of blotchy, but you're going to have to fix it, because my blur tool is demented unless it doesn't have merged layers.....sorry if it's not good enough...;P 14:28, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - don't worry, the highlights are great! And I'll get to work on the shading. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:13, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blep (shoots self) I meant highlights, because I made the highlights blotchy and couldn't blur them. I'm so sorry if this means you'll have to fix it up a bit, but I'm starting to get crazy.... ;P 18:24, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

That's okay, I hadn't started on the shading, so it should be okay. (I'm what is called a procrastinator) =) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 18:54, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink still looks funny to me, it's much much darker in the middle to me. 19:27, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Is this better? I also darkened the eyes becasue they looked unnaturally bright, comments?  ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 19:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I'm bad at using highlights! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 20:04, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

(-_-Ugh, I meant to say bold, and apparently i'm bad at typing also!) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 20:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink-- 23:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

This is looking nice! Although, I agree with Nightshine, you should blur the ear pink. Also, blur the shading and add some shading to the face. 03:37, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the legs behind the front legs..and not the back legs next to the tail. xD 20:00, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 15:11, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the earpink and shading some more, added shading to the far front leg (that's right?), comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 15:33, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 17:50, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I darkened it, should i do more or is this good, comments? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' Tigerstar's best bud!! 18:12, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Add highlight to the tail, if you want 'cause it is optional. Willow heart  1231  01:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I don't know if you can see it or not, but I added highlights to his tail, let me know if it needs more, comments? Dappleclaw Tigerstar's best bud!! 02:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Skipper (Ro)-For Approval
Here's Skipper. I didn't know what his eye color was, so I made a lucky guess. It's my first charart, so I hope you like it! Mist fire  16:23, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the shading, it looks pretty good! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 16:38, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and blur the white transition. Darken the shading a bit and blur it well-- 17:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it much more. Make the ear-pink more noticeable. 19:39, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened the shading and tried to blur it, as you can see. Personally, I think this one's worse. Darkened ear pink, et cetra. Mist fire  16:50, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Now there are three different shades of orange on him, it just looks kind of strange. 18:26, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The shading kind of looks like it's layered. Blur it as much as you can =) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 18:41, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is too small and bright. The line-art is blurred a bit on his legs and near the tail. 02:31, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and add highlights to the flank, shoulder, and face. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 05:05, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. 18:17, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

What Frostheart said. Anyways, blur the shading and add somre more near the tail and on the tail. 17:27, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. This ok?

Darken the ear pink, blur the shading a lot. Blur the white transition. Remember to sign-- 03:51, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred line art on the base of his tail. 13:32, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

it will look perfect to me if you just blur the shading and blur where the orange meets the white. Sunny frost  13:34, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. And if you want, add just some more highlights on his haunch. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:52, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Reuploaded. I made the earpink a lot darker, and Blurred orange/white section. I seriously don't think I can blur shading much more, folks. Mist fire  15:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

If you can't blur it more, then make the darker part lighter, or the light part darker. :P 19:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Then smudge it, then blur. That should work. Darken the ear pink, it blends in with the pelt color, making it hard to be visible. 21:03, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the orange-white transitioning. 22:03, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 03:11, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The nose-pink looks orange to me. 19:30, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more of a reddish color. 20:56, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Line-art is blurred a tiny bit near the tail, the back leg area, and blur the orange transition towards the head. 20:06, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Smudging and then blur the orange. That might help, because it looks like 2 seperate layers. Willow heart  1231  01:43, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Reuploaded. I redid it. The shading is really blurred and I also blurred the white/orange part. Mist fire  00:02, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, and white-orange transitioning. Darken the shading; I can hardly see it. -- 17:27, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Darkened shading, blurred orange/white + earpink. Mist fire  19:23, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more. -- 19:32, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more, XD 03:24, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Petalnose (W)-For approval
My first Charart! I know the shading is really bad XD but I really want to approve it. So Comments? Dusksong 14:16, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading 14:22, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. Possibly make highlights lighter. 16:18, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is too dark. Blur it, and add shading to the paws, top of the tail, chest and stomach, muzzle and forhead. Blur the ear pink and blur the highlights. Other than that, this is lovely. 17:22, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

agree with icestorm. blur the shading Sunny  frost  21:50, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Really blur shading. add highlights to forehead, chest, & fronts of legs. Mist fire  22:36, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, especially the spot on her forehead. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:49, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I also agree with Icestorm that you need to add shading to the stomach, paws, muzzle and tail. You could also afford to add some more to thr haunch, and then blur it all. 21:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Add shading to the front hind paw. 23:04, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur it. 03:07, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad, then it looks amazing! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:46, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, lighten it, and blur it a ton. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  21:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Added shading to the front hind paw, lightened the shading, and blurred the shading Dusksong   Hear the song of dusk  17:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The shoulder highlight looks a little low, try moving it up a little. 18:06, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading more. The back-back paw looks really dark. 20:07, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Lightened shading more moved shoulder highlight lightened back-back paw Dusksong   Hear the song of dusk  23:52, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading, darken and possibly blur the ear pink. Make the eyes a bit darker to be consistent with her other images. -- 04:30, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Add the shading, like people said, then blur a lot. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:55, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is fine now. Make the ear-pink more noticeable. 04:55, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading everywhere. 18:28, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink darker, I can barely see it. 23:18, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Slightly redden the ear pink and then blur the shading on the back and lighten the highlights too. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 16:15, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, darken the shading some and add it to the paws, legs, chest, muzzle, and tail. 18:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Back the shading thicker, and blur it a lot. Willow heart  1231  01:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Blur the shading a ton. Also, center the ear-pink a bit more. 03:27, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Back shading needs a TON of blurring, plus thicken it a bit. Also add/lighten the highlights...Tawny (Talk) 22:05, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot, and add shading to the legs, stomach, face, haunch and tail. 22:52, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Snooky (A) - For approval
for some reason i don't like how it turned out...anyway, comments? Sunny frost  21:43, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks un-natural on my computer its pink-purple colour. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 21:56, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is too bright. Add more spots and blur them a bunch. The line-art is blurred at the fore-arms, tail, ear, haunch, and more places if you can find them. Add an eye color. 21:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I added more spots, made the ear pink less bright, added eye color, and sharpened the line-art. *whew* Sunny  frost  00:18, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur shading, blur earpink and make it smaller. There is blurred colour out of the line art on the forearms, tail, haunch, and ear. Change eye color to a darker, not so bright, green. 00:28, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

As said by Oblivion, there's some blurd lineart. Also, it looks like you may have used pure black as opposed to dark gray for the spots, and thicken the shading and maybe add some highlights. (I'm aware of the fact that they're optional, but they really help an image, especially patched cats) 05:37, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this any better?? Sunny frost  12:40, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is still way too bright. Teh tail looks gray to me.I personally think you should remove the giant spot on the leg and replace it with smaller ones. 14:27, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Try to make his spots match his kitty-pet one and the line-art is still heavily blurred near the ear, chest, tail, and fore-arms. I forgot stuff. :P 15:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

To me, the earpink is purple and the main white part is pale pink.

The earpink looks fine to me, but I agree with Totallytawnypelt, the main white part of his fur looks pale pink-y 20:09, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I didn't like what it was becoming so I redid it. But i still have the old one saved. Sunny frost  00:18, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the spots a little more. And maybe add some spots on his right front leg. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:47, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

'''Reuploaded. ''' Whoops sorry, nvm. i'll upload it tomorrow. Sunny frost  01:04, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten ear pink, make the spots more...natrual and blur them more. Blur the ear pink. 03:08, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. (Can someone delete Snookpaw_(A).png?) Sunny  frost  12:39, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

It should be a png file and lighten the spots some. They look black rather than really dark gray. 13:18, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. (whoops nvm then) Sunny  frost'''  13:30, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

It might just be my comp...but darken the ear pink, it looks to bright

Reuploaded. Whatever you guys say, I trust. Sunny frost  17:15, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The black patches are still too dark. 17:23, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink needs to be a pale pink color. 19:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Theres lots of blurred line-art on the back. Also, the patches need to be lightend, as they are completly black, and blurred. 20:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, lighten the spots and make them a bit rounder. Make the ear pink pink, it's basically purple. Blur the shading. 21:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sunny  frost  21:18, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still purple. Darken the white transistion. 21:22, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Looking at his kittypet image that ear shouldn't be black. Try to base the markings from this --> 21:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. closer? Sunny frost  22:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the eye color more noticeable. 23:04, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried my best. Great StarClan, why do apprentices have such small eyes?! Sunny frost  01:04, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches a bunch -- 04:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 17:49, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * huff huff* Reuploaded. Sunny  frost  17:19, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded.  Sunny frost  18:12, August 27, 2010 (UTC)'''

Lighten and blur the black patches. Make the ear pink more pale, and blur some more. Other then that, its coming along pretty good :) -- 18:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded x2.  Sunny frost'''  00:57, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shade of pink you chose for the earpink is a bit odd. Choose something a bit less hot pink. Maybe take the color from his kittypet image. 01:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think its way light, but eh. Sunny frost  01:38, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

The patches should be very dark gray instead of pure black, as it is right now. Blur and add some more shading to the haunch,chest, and forelegs. Shrink the ear pink a bit. -- 04:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

they are dark gray. But anywayz, Reuploaded. Sunny frost  12:52, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my apologizes, it must just be my monitor :\. Rename the file: Snooky.apprentice.png -- 00:58, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

(How do you rename? reply on my talk page plz) Sunny  frost  13:24, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

i hope this is close to approval Sunny  frost  22:14, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I opened this file by copying the image location to look closer at it. It reverted it to the first one you had made...Help? xD 23:10, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

soo...any improvments needed besides the actual name of the actual file? Sunny frost  21:00, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Shrink the spot on the forehead. In the kittypet picture, it doesn't quite go near the eyes. Willow heart  1231  23:47, August 30, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Lighten the shading on his back, add shading under the ear closest to us and on the one farthest from us. Then blur it and make the markings lighter. The blurring on the markings looks very blotchy; try and fix that. 18:32, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The shading on the back needs fixing, I'll get to that. And I renamed the file. Somewhat Sunny  frost  22:44, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Add more shading to forelegs,chest,head, and the haunch. Blur the patches some more and make the background transparent. -- 22:56, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger, and blur the shading on the back. Willow heart  1231  01:37, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

The shading on the back looks lopsided an unblurred. Fix it, and then blur the patches. Question, are you shading in layers?

idk what that means but all i know is i made a mistake somewhere in the process and now it is not transparent. help plz! Sunny frost  16:26, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I made the background transparent for you. -- 17:25, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

thx :) ill reuploaded it tonight Sunny  frost  19:28, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Harveymoon (KP) - For approval
Well here he is! I don't think he's to bad but then he's my first charart uploaded on here. Comments but nothing rude or too mean please! <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:03, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Remove the earpink from his left our right ear and blur the shading more. Nice job. 22:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Remove the ear-pink on the right and blur it. Make the shading a bit more noticeable. 22:09, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded~ Better? His shading was a bit picky but I made it more noticeable. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:27, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 22:48, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Make the warpink smaller. Then blur it. 23:04, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Moonflight. Also, blur the shading and add more shading top the top of the shading and back legs. His eyes are also a bit bright, but that probably doesn't matter too much. 05:35, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - I had to redo his body so I could do the shading on it. Its blurred as much as I can without damaging the lineart and earpink is smaller I didn't change the colour of his eyes because they look fine to me. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 21:43, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading much much more and make the ear-pink like a triangle. 00:32, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot more. You can go over the line art, or maybe shrink the size of the blur tool. Add some shading right underneath his collar. A good example right now I think would help you is Velvet (underneath). But you don't have to listen to me because I'm only an apprentice. Ha ha =D. <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:44, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Tansy, I think you may have sharpened the shading instead of blurring it, because it was a lot more blurred before. :P Oh well, everyone makes mistakes. If you use pixlr, the blur is the tear drop. If you use GIMP, just make sure the blur/shapren tool is set to blur, not sharpen. 03:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Put the blur tool on 100 and blur the shading as much as you can. 11:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur. Add shading to the paws and arm, and face. Blur the ear pink. 18:33, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 19:36, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-done - Thickened and blurred on 100. Don't worry Willowheart I listened <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:02, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs serious blurring, and make the ear pink more triangular. 22:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. You need to blur the shading a whole bunch so it looks more natural. Sunny frost  22:16, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I changed the section title. Remember it is usually KP when submitting a kittypet. As for the image, it's too dark, he looks like a pale gray cat, lighten it, and use a less concentrated brush for the highlights. =) 22:30, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Blurred a lot and I had to re-do the body so I hope he's ok for now because I'll be going off soon also earpink was blurred as well.<font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:38, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink like a triangle. The shading seems blotchy and uneven now. 23:05, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs more blurring. 13:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the shading and the shading on the right forearm (the forearm we can see) looks uneven, try to fix it up, I can't really explain how it looks.... 14:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

You still really need to blur the shading. And there is some blurred lineart by his right ear. Sunny frost  17:25, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton. His head is blurred and a little bit where the fore-arm steps out. 17:50, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks square'ish (lol) make it more triangular. -- 04:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dawny don't worry I understood the earpink did look more like a rectangle. Anyway I'm going on holiday from tomorrow till Friday so I won't be able to update him for a while but when I get back I'll be right on the case. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 21:46, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I changed the section title again, remember it's KP for kittypet. And center the ear pink. 22:50, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur it, but well done! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 01:36, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Change the ear-pink to the angle of the line-art. 01:41, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should blur the ear pink Sunny  frost  22:17, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Blur the shading some. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:57, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, it looks a bit unnatural. And shift the ear pink to our right a little, to match the angle - oh, wait someone already said that... xD 13:46, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his back a lot. 18:33, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading. 18:07, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

add some highlights, he looks gray. blur the shading. Sunny frost  22:46, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional and his pelt color is fine. - 22:47, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Willow heart  1231  00:42, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Blur the ear-pink. 04:22, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

He looks gray. Make him look white. 03:01, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Velvet - For Approval


Mmm. Constructments? -- 22:18, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken the shading on her back a little bit. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Black">♫ Tansy ♫ So unbelievable it's believeable! 22:30, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading on the back is great.There's nothing I can say. :D 22:33, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, make this more silvery, right now it looks pale gray. Darken the ear pink a bit more and blur it-- 22:53, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks fine. This is lovely, Bramble, I can't find anything wrong with it other than the above comments. 00:26, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

She looks pale gray, not silver. And may I suggest more highlights, because I've found thye help make silver cats look. . . well, more silvery. (That may sound strange XD) Other than that, this looks great! 05:33, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make her more 'silvery' 10:33, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little more, and maybe add some more highlights (like on the tail?) <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

lol 'silvery' Anyways, I'd just say to....um...did I mention that this was AMAZING!!!

The shading makes it seems 'silvery' to me. But darken it a little bit. 19:35, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

There's an tiny speck of blurred lineart up by the ear pink. You can't really see it, though. 21:32, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I see it now that you mention it. xD Darken the shading on his back. 23:06, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps add some highlights because she looks kinda shadowy. That's just my opinion, though. -- 04:18, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Forestheart, Velvet is a girl. And, yeah, add some highlights on the head, back, and possibly tail. Sunny frost  17:38, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, Sunnyfrost. Highlights are optional, and I personally prefer this deep look. 17:51, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just my opinion -- 05:44, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the dark shading makes it look 'silvery' xp 01:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

If you ask me, the dark shading just makes it look. . . gray. 02:15, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Silver is a shade of gray. I think the pelt color is fine. 14:48, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

It's a very dull shade of gray, silver is brighter. Elorisa -sama  15:18, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink line-art is blurred a tiny-bit. 20:10, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I dunno, I like the color. Maybe, MAYBE, blur the shading on her right haunch some. But only if it doesn't mess up the rest of the shading, which looks AWESOME! Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:00, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Y'all had a field day with this one. I've added very subtle highlights, blurred thoroughly in suggested places, and fixed the blurred lineart on the ear. -- 03:25, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

She looks amazing! CBA? 23:15, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's still to pale. Darken it more and it should be good-- 23:52, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading 142.161.238.236 21:37, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

(Oops, i wasn't logged in!) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' Tigerstar's best bud!! 21:40, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Percy (R)-For Approval
I withdrew my other one so... here's Percy! I actually kinda like this one xD. Comments? --- 11:02, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hm...I've never seen Percy as a character before. The ear pink is too big and kinda a odd shape. 12:19, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this over the limit? There can only be 35 up for approval and this is the 36th. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 13:06, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, Nettlsplash is being withdrawn, so this is fine. Anyway, fix up the earpink. 13:15, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I didn't see that. XD But yeah I agree with Beautiful Oblivion and Silverdapple! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 13:28, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

i think you should make the earpink smaller. but im just an apprentice so idk. Sunny frost  13:29, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is too big. Blur the stripes more. 14:24, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Shrink the ear pink so its not as big as we think, then blur the stripes on the fur

ha ha I got that from Zorth ;P (i made up the las part) and now this means I can't do Percy when Rockshade gets approved :( (DON'T WITHDRAW THOUGH!! THIS IS REALLY GOOD!)

Reuploaded Thanks, Tawny!! And, sorry, I didn't know you were planning to do his image too. xD Anyways, I blurred the stripes and fixed the ear pink. What else? --- 20:17, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add some more shading? I'm an apprentice as well... <font color="Aqua" style="background:White">Willowheart May StarClan light your path! 00:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

lol willow, i second that last part. but i think it looks great, me being an apprentice :P Sunny  frost  01:10, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried adding some more shading, but it didn't go so well. I couldn't blur it because it made the stripes unevenly blurred xD. I just added some to the head. Anything else? --- 01:19, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes and darken the entire thing just a bit. 02:03, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added more stripes and darkened the whole thing. Anything else? --- 10:38, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe blur it a bit more? 15:31, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

lol its okay Cherr Cherr (mah new nickname for you!!O.O) anyways, I'd just say to blur and center the earpink :P

Reuploaded Lol, Tawny! Thanks for the new name :P Anyways, I blurred the earpink and centered it. Anything else? --- 20:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes on the belly and make the ear-pink like a triangle. 23:06, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I believe you meant the chest. The stomach has enough stripes. 01:49, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I mean the front part of it. 04:30, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Well... I just added some stripes to the chest and I made the earpink like a triangle. Anything else? --- 11:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. -- 18:23, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

This is just me experimenting, but try making the stripes reach down farther. Don't save it if you don't like it, but it could give it a more...tabby effect. 18:33, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I centered the ear pink, but for the stripes, I tried to do that but, it made the stripes meet each other so I just left it with the short stripes. Anything else? --- 11:07, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add some stripes to the paws. 18:00, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added stripes to the paws. What else? --- 01:05, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Add stripes to the back legs. 01:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yup add stripes to the back and front right legs other than that Nice!! ShadowandBlue 13:53, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added stripes to the back and front right legs. Anything else? 15:26, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art is blurred a lot in various places and blur the highlights. 20:12, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred the highlights, but I wasn't sure where the blurred lineart was... other than that, what else? 23:19, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Theres blurred line-art along the back and tail. Shrink the ear pink a tad. -- 23:59, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? 11:28, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are really. . . round. IDK, make them pointier if that makes sense. Also add more stripes to the shoulder, there's none there. Darken the ear pink and nose, lighten the eyes. 20:33, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I couldn't make the stripes pointier, though I tried xD. It made it look... strange xD. Should I just leave it like this or should I try to make it pointier again? Other than that, is there anything else? 11:10, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights, or darken the shading. -- 22:07, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, because they look unnatural. But it could just be my computer screen... Willow heart  1231  00:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Make the earpink smaller. 04:25, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? 20:23, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (A) - For Approval


MY FIRST CHARART!!!! =D

Elorisa has yet to decide, which means so have I. The striped style or the patched tabby style? The patched tabby style looks more like Elorisa's, but I like the regularly-striped one better. Even though it doesn't look very much like Elorisa's. Anyways, comments? =D 02:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink needs to be bigger. The patched one looks really blotchy to me. Do the striped one more like the Creekfeather one up for approval. :P 02:42, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Will do. But even though the second one is prettier, it doesn't really look like Elorisa's and I couldn't get the patched tabby one to look... well.. patched-tabby-ish lol ... Argh... -- 02:48, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed earpink -- 03:01, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I like the patched tabby. Blurr the stripes on the striped one a bit. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  03:37, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

All of them? Or certain ones? Specific, please =) -- 04:59, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the stripes a little bit. Problem, though. I use GIMP, and, unfortunately when I saved this as a .png (because the wiki can't upload .xcf s) I accidentally forgot to save it as a .xcf as well, so now my little flashing line around the lineart is gone and I can blur the lineart where I couldn't before. So I'm having issues working on it without blurring or drawing on the lineart. Does anybody have suggestions? -- 05:17, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really help with that. I just save it on png on Gimp and it's fine. As for the image, make the striped one more like zigzags unless you like it this way. Blur the ear-pink a bit more. 15:30, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Second one. Blur the stripes there and lighten it. On the first one, darken the patches. 18:31, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the patched one. 23:08, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I like how the patched one looks, but the stripes one needs to lightened. <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt    <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come?  00:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Patched: thickened shading, added a few patches, blurred earpink. Striped: dodged whole image with a brush on 10% exposure, fixed lineart issue (THANK YOU ICEHEART), blurred earpink. Better? -- 01:16, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Both images: darken the head shading, it's not visible. 01:48, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Both images: Darken the ear pink. Patched one: blur it more. 02:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

What should I blur? The earpink? -- 03:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

If you decide on the regularly striped one, I'd say blur the stripes, and add more striping to the legs, face and tail. 21:50, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

'Kay, I'll add more stripes to the legs, but the tail I tried to copy from the warrior pic, which doesn't have as many stripes, I think, and could you give me some tips on how to stripe the face? I tried when I was first making it, but it just looked stupid, so I took them off -- 05:39, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Elorisa has decided on the patched one 13:19, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes she has. So, define the stripes, as I said before, it looks blotchy--ish. xD 20:10, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Can you take out the stripe by the eye? it looks like its coming out of the eye. Sunny frost  20:19, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

It does not matter. Elorisa chose the patched one. 23:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

oh ok Sunny  frost  23:19, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is taking so long, but I'm working on renovating my bedroom. Please don't decline, as I AM working on it. Comments noted. -- 22:22, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

The spot on his haunch looks funny. Either remove it, lighten it up, or add little speckles around it. (Sorry if I sound demanding!) Willow  heart  1231  00:36, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Add some spots to the face to, it just kind of stops ina line on the the neck.--  <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt     <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come? : 19:25, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Egg (A)- for Approval
I think it came out horrible, but comments? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 19:20, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The torn ear looks like the line-art is...gray or faded? :P 19:34, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry about that! =P River pelt Deputy of StormClan 19:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

It's still faded and gray/whiteish. The tail highlight is really bright. 20:15, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

the torn ear is still gray/faded. Sunny frost  20:17, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yupp. The tail looks a little to bright. (: ShadowandBlue 23:03, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be darker. 23:24, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more highlights and blur them (I know highlights are optional, but you already have them so I'm pretty sure I can make suggestions for them) Thicken the shading. 00:08, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Okay, I redid him, I fixed the torn ear (so everyone knows there is no gray/white on it, and is not faded.), I darkened the ear pink, lightened the tail, and brightened the highlights. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:18, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

It's still faded, I checked up close. :P  04:56, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

But there's no gray and it's not faded when I checked it. How should I fix it? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 11:42, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

I could help if you want. 15:39, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

k, so should i thicken the lineart on the ear, would that help? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 18:34, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

No, someone would have to fix it for you. - 00:55, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay so who knows how to fix it? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:45, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I opened this up on Pilxr, and the ear didn't seem faded to me at all, it looks fine. Just darken the shading. -- 22:05, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I opened it up on pixlr and it is. I'm not sure if you would like it, but I fixed it. 03:46, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. thanks Frostheart and Dawny for the help! I'll get to it ASAP! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 18:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink just a tad more. Willow heart  1231  00:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred ear pink more. Srry it took me a while to load, I started school yesterday. So it may take me a bit to reupload images. =P River pelt Deputy of StormClan 22:22, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. This is great overall. -- 23:14, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks! I darkened the shading and blurred it as far as it could go. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 13:00, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Whiskers (SC) - For Approval
First black cat. Hopefully it doesn't suck.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  00:55, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger. 01:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes look really really bright. While you're making the highlights bigger, add one to the back and tail. And the face highlight seems really low down. 02:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the eyes, add more highlights on the tail. Echofall Fate is in your paws 02:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Lighten the face highlight. Darken and blur the ear pink. Other than that, this is well done. 14:01, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  14:53, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

You still need to make the highlights a bit bigger on his flank. Make the ones on the tail more noticible. 14:56, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

This is weird...the new edits aren't showing up. You can see them on the two previous uploads before this one on the file history, but it's not showing up here.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  14:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the haunch highlight bigger, add a highlight to the tail, and lighten his muzzle just a bit. Willow heart  1231  00:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I did all those things, and I reuploaded it, but the new version isn't showing up on the page.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  14:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I uploaded it as a new file entirely, so now it's working.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  14:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the highlights on the tail and haunch. -- I c e    h e  a r  t♥  : 21:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sol (Alt. Lo) - For Approval
Comments? 16:35, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Wow this is great! Darken the shading and ear pink. Maybe add a few more areas of white to his paws or tail-- 16:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Nightshine :) Darkened shading and ear pink, added more white. 16:53, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Does it look changed to anyone? Because, to me, it looks the same and I can't change it D: 16:56, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome. Blur the stripes. 17:56, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Blurred stripes. Renamed image because the old one was being wierd. 18:18, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. -- 21:59, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't without renaming it. The image will upload, but it will only show the oldest one D: 22:10, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! I think you should blur the transition from brown to white (on tail and paws). And also do what Ice said, about the ear pink. But it looks awesome otherwise! 23:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. Also, add more white to the muzzle. 03:03, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I'm not blurring the stripes anymore. They're fine. Blurred white transitions, added more white on the face, and fixed earpink. 18:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and shading. Make the highlights a bit bigger.-- 21:58, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 23:48, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

This looks a lot like Leafpool's loner image, but oh well! :P Could you lighten it? It looks a bit dark. 23:49, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Frostheart (Incase you didn't know), Oblivion did do Leafpool's loner image (but I think you do know). Um, define the ear pink a little more because it looks like it is blending into the brown. Willow heart  1231  00:18, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Yes, I did know, Willowheart. :P This is great, Oblivion. ;D The eyes look really pale to me, though. 00:26, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add a subtle highlight to the stomach. 00:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if it is my computer, but the art looks dusty right now. There is a highlight on the stomach that is way to bright, and his side is kind of dark compared to the rest of him. Willow heart  1231  03:26, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Could you explain a bit more, Willowheart? What do you mean by dusty? And there's no highlight on his stomach - at least not yet - so I don't really know what you're talking about. 04:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's amazing Oblivion, but what about adding more white..? I don't know how to explain it, urrr here is a older pic I drew of my version... http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8317/2ndsoldesign.png What do you think? Don't mind the weird mane and fluff of the tip of the tail... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.30.4.75 (talk • contribs) 01:26, September 3, 2010

I think Willowheart means the spot near his right hind leg, which is a little lighter than the rest of his underside. But it looks great otherwise! 13:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Willowheart, if you meant that, it's because there's a highlight there. And the unregistered contributor, whoever you are, my design is fine for him. I like it the way it is.

I'll start working on this soon. 15:24, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 17:36, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the brown a touch. Elorisa -sama  20:03, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

This is good idk y but to me it looks my friends cat and her is and/silver and white tabby

How does this cat look silver ''at all? ''And you need to sign your posts. 22:54, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Oblivion for the confusion. I mean, there is a really bright spot kinda at the place of his stomach and haunch, and I think you should blur it. And by dusty, I mean is looks a little too smudged and it has a slight grayish tinge. Willow heart  1231  02:02, September 4, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

It doesn't have a grey-ish tinge. . . and those bright spots are highlights. Speaking of highlgihts. . . could you add one to the back? 02:51, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I guess it is the computer--I have a different one since mine broke down. Willow heart  1231  18:59, September 4, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Minty (Ro) - For Approval
Mmm, I'm pretty proud of her. Shading done in GIMP, highlights in Pixlr. Construcments? 18:11, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome :) Darken the shading on her body. 18:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Thanks! I darkened the shading on her body. 18:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make her ear-pink more pink? It looks like a dull shade of gray. 20:41, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the nose a tad aswell. 20:50, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

do her eyes need to be that dark? Sunny frost  21:38, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I got the eye color from her other image. Anyways, I darkened the ear pink and nose. 22:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink/nose much brighter, and make the ear pink larger. Also, blur the highlights a lot and blur the shading some. 03:02, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Still make the ear-pink and nose-pink pinker? :P 03:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, for some odd reason I did make the ear pink and nose pinker, but the changes didn't show up. 16:05, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Try uploading it again. Darken the highlights-- 21:56, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and/or blur the highlights. Willow heart  1231  00:13, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Darken the nose color. 00:20, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Darkened nose color, ear pink color, darkened highlights, blurred shading a bit. I hope the changes showed up. 00:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Take the nose colour and ear pink from her queen image. Darken the highlights. Lighten the eye colour-- 05:26, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Took the nose and ear pink colour from her queen image, darkened highlights, lightened eye colour. 14:44, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Dappletail (A) - For Approval
This was fun! Comments?-- 21:56, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Wow this is really nice!! You should probly make the ear pink more pink.(= And I was wondering my nettlesplash kit version when is that going to get approved?? ＩShadowandBlueＩ 22:03, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink on Dappletail's elder image: Is pretty much like this one.-- 22:05, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, this looks really good. I can't really think of anything wrong ... (= Dappleclaw Tigerstar's best bud!! 22:21, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Try blurring the markings a tiny bit. This looks great! -- 22:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Oh well in that case great!! ＩShadowandBlueＩ 23:08, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

If there isn't anything that needs to be approved, you shouldn't really say anything at all. 23:58, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Pinken just the tip of the ear pink, because it looks like that on the elder image. Lighten up the back stripes just a tad bit. Otherwise, looking good! Willow heart  1231  00:10, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Blur the stripesand darken the shading. 00:29, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes a bit thicker. 00:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Frostheart, they arent stripes and I think they look fine she looks exatly like her elder image :) nice job night<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  00:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred stripes, lightened black, and changed ear pink-- 00:43, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur + add more orange. 02:55, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Err. . . that was probably a bit unclear. I'm lazy. I meant add more orange and then blur it. 03:00, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I can't really add more orange to it. -- 04:14, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well, there is a little bare spot on the haunch...Maybe put some there? 10:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add some white. (I know it's not consistent with her elder image, but it's a part of her description.) -- 19:04, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the markings a ton. Elorisa -sama  20:02, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Why can't you add more orange? The orange parts are bigger on Dappletail's, just make them bigger. 21:36, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more into the fur. Tawny (Talk) 22:08, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred stripes. I don't think I should add white to it, her other images don't have any-- 02:43, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. We can put white on her images during tweak week. Blur the orange more. 02:49, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

woah this is GREAT! you probably used GIMP, becuz i could never do something like this on pixlr :) Sunny  frost  20:01, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred markings more-- 22:17, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Sunnyfrost, you should comment on a picture to criticize it. Define the ear-pink. 00:55, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Nettlesplash (A) - For Approval
My first apprentice...comments? -- 22:17, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading some. This is great for a first apprentice! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  23:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is nice. Define the ear pink by making it pinker, and then blur it. Willow heart  1231  23:59, September 2, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Re-Uploaded: Thank you Willowheart, and Dovesong. :) Blurred shading, and fixed ear pink. -- 01:27, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the muzzle. 02:59, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Agreeing with Mosspool, add shading on the muzzle. Just a little bit. Because if you add to much, it looks odd. Add shading to the base of the tail as well. Willow heart  1231  03:20, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Re-Uploaded: Added shading to the tail, muzzle, and forelegs. -- 00:12, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (K) - For Approval
Eh, my apologies, his markings look much like the ones on his warrior/apprentice images. I can redo it, but for now, here he is. Comments? TheBlindApprentice 22:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather doesn't have an apprentice or a warrior image so I don't know what you are talking about. Darken the shading and blur it thoroughly, it is very blotchy right now. Add more tabby stripe and add ear-pink. 22:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. This is over the limit, so this will have to be declined. Try again when theres avaliable space. -- 23:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's fine. I just declined Egg's image, so this is under the limit. 23:37, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

. Blur it, I agree with Frostheart that it does look blotchy. Also, add ear pink. Make the ear pink a lightish color. Willow heart  1231  23:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I agree with Frostheart about adding more tabby stripes. And if you're going to add some on the legs and/or haunch, you should lighten those areas; the legs and haunch seem to be the same color as the stripes. 00:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Creeakfeather has apprentice and warrior images up for approval, this needs to match those stripes. Otherwise, blur the shading and highlights. 02:58, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather needs to be patched. 03:06, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I thought Creakfeather was a tabby? 13:28, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Er, I think there was a discussion a while ago, and Elorisa decided that Creekfeather should be patched. 13:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, my image is a tabby, it just looks patched. Elorisa -sama  19:44, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

LOL, I don't think you can decide to change the character's appearance. It's just the stripe style Elorisa used, that's all. 21:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. :P But this looks tabby, not patched, so..xD Could you modify it to change the other images? 22:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Whitethroat (R) - For Approval
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100903171448/warriors/images/0/00/WhitethroatRouge2.png

It's my first PCA charart! :3 Critique? -- Blossom sky  15:27, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the white transitions, add/darken shading, and make his whole body lighter; I can hardly see the lineart. 16:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Oblivion, though I can see the lineart just fine. Blur the earpink. 16:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' Blossom sky  17:16, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the shading a ton Dappleclaw Tigerstar's best bud!! 17:19, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Make the white transition on the back hind paw a little less straight, and blur the shading a lot like Dappleclaw said. You might want to add some highlights, though they're optional. 18:18, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add an eye then add white to it 18:42, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the white transition. Maybe darken the image just a tad. Blur the shading as well. This is very good for your first PCA Charart :) -- 20:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

The leg line-art is blurred a lot. Make the shading thicker and blur it. There's something wrong with the eye, it needs a white pixel. Make the ear-pink bigger and make the whtie belly a bit bigger and blur it. 17:57, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear coloring a bit pinker and blur the shading along the belly and legs. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:21, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. For some reason, it won't let me sign! Gah. 17:57, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 20:25, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstorm (D) - For Approval
Here she is. My first Charart in a while. Comments? 15:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the earpink, and darken the haunch shading. 16:04, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I'm having issues with this image. This is Hollytail's image, Not mine. I'm not sure what went wrong... 16:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

This is happening to me with Nettlesplash. Cherryfur123's image is showing up, not my own. :( 16:54, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Then your pressing Overwrite the Existing image with yours. Don't press that, you will have to re-name yours. 20:35, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, here's my image, I'll have to correct it later... 20:41, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink. 03:15, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Honeyleaf(D)~for approval.
This is my 4th charart. Comments for approval? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 14:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

That should probably be moved to the approval area above^^^, but apart from that, its pretty good! Ive never commented on a charart before, so i hope some people might agree, but you could make the ear pink bigger? idk, any way.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Purple">Sunstar27 'Be true to your dreams... 15:14, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

make the ear pink a bit bigger and lighten it. Sunny frost  19:48, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

If this is the same Honeyleaf I'm thinking about, then I think the pelt color should be more of a bright ginger, like her rogue image, not dark ginger. I can't find the image right now, it's a redlink for some reason. 22:20, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear-pink, it blends in really well with the tabbystripes. The stripes on the tail look weird and a bit different, could you make it more like wavy? :P 22:27, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay! Major make-over for this charart! I lightened the ginger coloring and did the tabby stripe patter differently. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:19, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Looks nice, but the highlights are too bright and covering the eye and tinting it. Also, the neck stripes are really thick. 02:47, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Here's the rogue pic :3 11:12, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Change the colour and stripe style to match her rogue image. 15:18, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

All these tabby stripes are getting on my nerves! I tried to match the color and the stripe pattern. Comments? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 20:40, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Much better. 22:32, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Flowerleaf, only comment on a picture if you are going to criticize it again. Add stripes to the belly. 00:50, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

It looks really nice! But maybe change the y-stripe on the lower haunch to a triangle-stripe like the others, it looks kind of out-of place. 02:33, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (MCA) - For Aproval
My first Charart for PCA !!!! Comments? <font color="Yellow" style="background:Purple">Sunstar27 'Be true to your dreams... 16:15, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Don't put it in a thumbnail. Also, rename this Yellowfang.mca.png. 16:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Make it look like her medicine cat image ->Make her fur more like that, make the herbs yellow, add scars on her face. 16:34, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ill Re-Upload it tomorow! :D i wasnt sure wether she had scars or not, and i didnt know what colour the herbs were s'posed to be, so sorry. :) <font color="Yellow" style="background:Purple">Sunstar27 'Be true to your dreams... 17:02, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

'''why do the herbs have to be yellow?  Sunny  frost'''  19:54, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

The herbs don't have to be yellow, theres more then one type of herb, and its not like she would always be carrying around the same ones. Brighten the highlights and blur the shading. Also make the ear pink smaller. -- 20:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

They should be yellow for consitency, actually. 20:54, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it matters unless she's always holding the same herbs. The ear pink is too big, and darken the shading/add highlights for consistency. 21:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Oblivion. Also, add shading to the legs and blur it a lot. The ear-pink is too big and blur the highlights. 22:26, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the herbs make a big difference; like Mosspool said, she's not always holding the same herbs. But maybe add more highlights and make the fur look more like her medicine cat image. 23:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

oh ok. i was just wondering so sorry for doing it in bold and underline. shrink the ear pink and blur it. try to fix up some of the highlights on the tail, it looks like one side it dark gray and the other side it Yellowfang color. Sunny frost  00:37, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, the herbs don't have to e the same color. There are more than one type of herb. I would blur the shading, and add highlights (they are optional, but well worth it on a black/gray cat.) Darkhallows... Mew? 00:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

This looks light gray, make it darker. 17:56, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Nettlesplash(W) - For Approval
Comments? 16:27, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Whoa! This isn't mine. Looks like Cherryfur123 had this up for approval once, but it got declined, maybe? Anyway, the first time I saved it, I messed up on the name. It got deleted so I tried to upload it with the right name, but the changes won't show. :\ 16:47, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the images are all messed up. It should be fixed soon, just wait a bit. 16:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I know his name isn't right, but I'm woring on it. Comments? 21:12, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

This image is lovely. Define the ear pink, and perhaps darken the paws, and ear furthest from us. -- 21:19, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights. The image is well-done, Moonflight. 21:21, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Snake (Alt. R)- For Approval
My first rouge. Kind of a fail. Comments?--  <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt     <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come? : 19:19, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the black and white transitions, and the shading. Also did you want the nose to be black? Dappleclaw Tigerstar's best bud!! 19:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

You spelled "rouge" instead of "rogue". Rename the file. 19:38, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. I told you it was a fail XD. anyways i blurred the shading and patches and i wasn't sure what colour to do the nose so i did a dark gray. I tried to make him look like he did in 'Heart of a Warrior'--  <font color="Silver">Ic <font color="Thistle">eh <font color="Violet">ea <font color="Orchid">rt     <font color="Violet">Will the thaw ever come? : 20:29, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

The collar looks a bit strange to me, like it's a directly straight line and it's too tight. Try to make it slag a bit more, see here: Tawny (Talk) I agree with Tawny on the collar, it needs to match his other one more. Darken the shading a bunch, I'm not sure whether the nose-pink should be pink. :P -- 22:24, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Nobody seems able to save changes right now. -- Darkhallows... Mew? 00:51, September 4, 2010 (UTC) Grrrr. i re-uploaded it, but the changes aren't showing. Can someone help me? or should i just wait and see what happens? Well if you could see it i redid the collar. -- I c e    h e  a r  t♥  : 22:58, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the photo thing is fixed now, though I am not sure. -- 17:55, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

There, i got the new version up. darkened the shading and everything else. What next? -- I c e    h e  a r  t♥  : 19:31, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a lot; its barely visible. -- 19:36, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the black transition. 19:49, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

(Throughing angry tantrum) I did everything, but it won't show my changes!!!! >:( Very frustrating.-- I c e    h e  a r  t♥  : 19:55, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Please calm down Iceheart. Throughing a tantrum doesn't solve anything. All images are having this problem. Please be patient. 22:09, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

It seems it is fixed now. Darken the ear-pink, I cannot see it well. Also, make the teeth whiter? That might sound strange..XD -- 03:13, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Shrewtooth (Ro)- For Approval
Constructments? -- H A W K T A L O N        ö 19:42, September 3, 2010 (UTC) 19:36, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 19:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it should be blurred. I love the way it shows the muscles/where the shoulders are. But the eye is strange... Darkhallows... Mew? 00:53, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, the shading should be blurred. I think this shading style looks funny on a black cat. 02:44, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred the shading and fixed the eye. -- H A W K T A L O N        ö 15:04, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, other than that, it is great. 17:54, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. Darken the shading at the base of the tail. Great job! 19:48, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Stonetooth (D) for approval
My first charart for the PCA! Comments? ***Iceflower*** 20:38, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Good for you first charart! Try to blur the highlights and stripes. Tawny (Talk) 22:12, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

This looks silver, darken the highlights and make the whole cat darker, basically. There is blurred line-art near the tail, the legs, back, ear, and head. 22:22, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

rename it Stonetooth.deputy.png

Darken the highlights and blur the shading, make the ear pink smaller and darker. Add shading to the paws, base of the tail, and the head, and the ear not facing us. Overall, this is well done. 00:19, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes need to look more like he ones on his elder image: Here, they're thinner and don't stretch out as far. The tail stripes are also too thin, and he looks silver while in his elder picture Stonetooth is really more of a brownish-gray. 02:41, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Im not sure i can do all that on the original, should i just redo it? Iceflower 14:14, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

And how do you blur the stipes without blurring the line art? What pencil size should i use for the stripes? iceflower

Iceflower, look at the apprentice tutorials on the main PCA page. 15:23, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: 

It is now too dark. Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. 17:24, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

should i use dodge tool or re-do it? ***Iceflower*** 17:38, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Probably the dodge tool, but if it still does not match, maybe you should redo it. 17:41, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 19:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: 

Lighten the pelt colour. Make the ear pink bigger and more triangular; its like a straight line right now. Also blur the shading a lot. -- 20:48, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Iceflower, overwrite the old image with the new one. You do not need to put a whole new image. 00:47, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Also, lighten the image still. It looks quite blotchy, darken the shading and define and blur the ear-pink. 03:02, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Swallowflight(R) - For approval
First black cat and NEVER going back. This is my first charat for this project! 02:42, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the highlights and make the ear pink bigger. I c e    h e  a r  t♥  : 22:13, September 3, 2010 (UTC) Darken the shading, blur the highlights, make the ear-pink bigger and more 'pink' This looks dark-gray, make it darker-- 22:21, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights on the shoulder and haunch bigger. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed ear pink, made shading darker, blurred the highlights, and darkened the overall color. The highlights won't blur anymore, so I think the highlights are good. Also, this shade is the darkest I can go without messing up the line art.

the neck and back are heavily blurred on the lineart; if its not supposed to look like that, fix it. Sunny frost  23:07, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art along the back is blurred -- 23:26, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Sorry about the blurred line-art. I didn't notice it when I was blurring the shading. I had to delete and re-do the cat FOUR times because my old blurred cat was showing instead. Also, I have a ton of time today, so I will reupload a TON.

Thicken the shading, add more to the stomach, chest, paws, and muzzle/head. 00:18, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Better?

Make it darker, still. Thicken and blur the shading. -- 01:01, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wait..who is this user? I don't see a sig and stuff. :P -- 01:02, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I just spent 30 min. blurring the shading. I know it sucks, I will spend all night working on it. I promise :)-- 03:35, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the legs. 14:57, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the tail, belly, and legs. This is still dark gray to me. :P -- 15:20, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Okay, I darkened the overall color as dark as I can go without messing up the line-art. I also added shading to the legs, belly and tail. Oh, and by the way, I stayed up all night blurring the StarClan out out the shading >.<

You need to darken the stomach and chest shading. Lighten the back shading. 19:44, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Update - '''Um, I'm not sure if this is where you put this, but I can't go on my computer for a few days, so please don't think I'm ditching this project. I'll make sure I tell both Bramble and Oblivion. I'll see you all in a few days! >.<'''

Tigerheart Alt kit-For approval
2nd charart! This should be ok b/c Egg(Lo) is being declined. 18:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I moved it to the right section. Darken/add shading, and add more stripes, especially on his tail. 18:12, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

He was never described as golden tabby as a kit. Only as an apprentice. 18:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure he was described golden tabby as a kit. Added highlights and darkened shading 18:30, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading some more. -- 19:39, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes and darken highlights. 19:41, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 20:28, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes still. 03:09, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

No, he wasn't, I'm absolitely positive. Besides, there's no source on his page. The source on his page is from when he was an apprentice. We can't make an image and not know whther we need it or not. 03:40, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

I have a slight problem...
Grrr my stupid computer will NOT save any of my drawings and junk on pixlr.com. I can only make charcats on my dads but I only seem to see him every other week....I really want to stay on PCA. What can I do? Rubyblaze 16:01, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Can you explain more? 16:02, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

What I mean is I won't be able to fix my charats when I put them up for approval. It would be a while before I could get on and fix them up because I can't edit them at my mom's. Rubyblaze 17:34, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, maybe make them as perfect as you can the first time? Or, you could use GIMP 18:31, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well, why can't you edit? :P What happens? 20:00, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

If you can't re-save the image or something like that, control click the photo, then click it again to get it to full size. Right click and press "copy image url" or copy-paste the url at the top. Go to pixlr or gimp, and click "open file in location" 20:29, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

It won't save ANYTHING. Not even my other non-warriors drawings. Rubyblaze 14:22, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Then call a person who's knows a lot about computers. For now, you can download another program I guess. 19:32, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

It could be a problem with your computer. For now, you could try using Gimp. 16:17, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think she's saying she can't save ANYTHING. Hire a computer person? 23:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Hi guys, school got in so, I was kinda busy, anyways I will have to talk to my mom about using GIMP (She hates it when i download things she dosen't want me to). I am at my Dads but its kinda too late to work on a charcat right now. Rubyblaze 03:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

If it can't save anything, even on Gimp, then you should go to the company's website (the company of your computer) and click their customer support section. Then search to see if they have a repair service. 19:12, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I suppose you are right. Is your computer old? 02:42, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

No. My mom's computer is Windows 7! I can save images on my dad's but I hardly can make them. I don't know if I am aloud to download GIMP I will have to ask. Rubyblaze 18:04, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Windows 7 is just the OS (operating system). What company made your computer? Some of the most common ones are Sony, HP, Apple, etc. 18:41, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

This has been happening to me too. When I tried to save Cora's warrior picture today, it wouldn't. 20:18, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Join?
Hello, i would like to join! can someone please explain to me how to reserve a charart, which chararts need to be done, how do i get a charart approved, basically everything! lol.

btw- i have only made one charart so far- and its not too good. what program is best to use? Iceflower13 23:11, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sure you can join. A lead will add you in soon. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Thistle">♫Dovesong-Moonleaf♪ ♫Dove's gentle song♪  23:53, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

The best programs to use are GIMP or pixlr. 23:50, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

The links! Where are the links?
What happened to the links on the main page that listed the characters that needed art?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  11:30, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

To say so, I don't know. I just go to Nightfall's page and click on her charart section. :P 16:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Here's the link to Nightfall's. 18:32, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, that link does not have all up to date information... 22:28, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

That is true. 23:17, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'll try putting together a new list of them, as I have some free time before school starts. 22:22, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Rainwhisker! I'm a new person, and i am trying to join the charart society. the problem is- there arent many chararts left to be done! so when i saw nightfalls page i was excited- until i found out it was not up to date! if you can make a new page of chararts that need to be done- please post the link here as i would greatly appreciate it!!! Iceflower13 23:17, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

This is what I've got so far: Needed Charart List. It's not much, but if I'm missing any characters, you can leave a message on my talk page. I'll try and update it often. 23:22, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Rainwhisker, I believe Rabbitleap already has a kit charart. 18:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

thats the only charrie he has :-P Sunny  frost  21:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I've fixed it. 23:02, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and also, should Egg as a loner be on the list since the one on this page got declined? 01:34, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Can I join?
Hi I'm Kittypet1, and I'd like to join. I don't know if it's needed, but I made a sample. I would really love to be in PCA. 13:52, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Samples are not needed but we will be more then happy to add you in wich a lead will do soon :)<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  14:45, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Not a bad image, BTW ;) Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:08, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

A lead/deputy/senior well add you soon. (The charart is great!)

So am I in? 22:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

You will be as soon as either Bramble, Oblivion, or some other senior warrior adds you. Check the main Project Charart page and look for your name under the apprentice section. (It's in alphabetical order). ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. When someone adds me can I do Stoneteller’s alt image? He was a gray tabby in ‘’Outcast’’ 12:50, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

you need to save it on the main page. where it says "Current Projects" you need to edit it and scroll down to your name, and type in the charart you want to reserve. then when you've finished, you can upload it, and when the number of chararts up for approval is less then 35, you can put it up for approval Sunny  frost  19:56, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

But I can’t do that until someone adds me, right? 04:05, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

HELP!
hi guys i need help my fallowfern image got approved and oblivion tried to uploud my file over dovesongs but it dosent work even i tried it and it wont revert to miy file please help!<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  02:02, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I re-uploaded it. It worked. What do you mean? 02:06, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

No it did not work if you look on Fallowfern's page you will see dovesongs withdrawn image and not mine i think you need too move it too that file or something but it won't work.<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  12:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think it is working now. Try checking again. Sometimes it takes a while to re-upload. 14:19, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I contacted Wikia staff, and they said it would be fixed soon. Just be patient :) 16:51, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

calm down Mossleap its been fixed! Sunny frost  19:51, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

erm Sunnyfrost I am calm...<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  21:45, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

More Charart Questions..
Okay, I've asked questions in the past and I don't want to feel like I'm nagging but I've noticed on Birchfall's page he was "mistakenly described as gray." So can I do an alternate charart for him, or should I not because it was only a mistake? Echofall Fate is in your paws 22:37, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm.. that's a good question. Like when we have alternate chararts for those who are mentioned as the opposite gender only once, or other stuff like that...I'd say MAYBE, but ask a sysop about that...Tawny (Talk) 22:58, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

He was grey for six books, so I'd say yes. -- 00:35, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with the user above me. I'm doing Tawnypelt's alt kit pic, but she was only mentioned Golden once.

???
for some reason, i am NOT on the PCA members area. did I get removed or was it just an accident? Sunny frost  00:31, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you're not listed as an apprentice? I think you were removed accidently. 02:08, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

nope, i pressed Ctrl+F and typed in my username and the only place it came up was at the top where it says "My Home" and in the part where it says im doing Snooky as an apprentice. not on the members area. Sunny frost  16:11, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

can a senior warrior, Oblivion or Bramble add me back? Sunny frost  19:48, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Joining
Hi, I'm Midnitesky! I'm a fairly new user here, but I'd like to join PCA. I hope I can participate soon!

Midnitesky 01:27, September 4, 2010 (UTC)Midnitesky

Hey Midnitesky! I'm glad you want to join! A senior warrior will add you in soon! And next to you post, put your signature next to it, not underneath! Willow heart  1231  01:39, September 4, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Thanks, Willowheart1231! Midnitesky 14:17, September 4, 2010 (UTC)Midnitesky

Leaving
Hey everyone, it's Quailflight, who hasn't been active for such an uber long time. I saw that my name was on the elder list, and to say that I do want to step down from the responsibilities in Charart. I can't continue because of my busy schedule, but I will try and visit the wiki as often as I can. Thanks for the wonderful time here, and for all these memories.

Little note to users who miss me..... I'll try to keep touch on your talk pages! :) Quailflight  03:44, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hello people, I was informed my name is on the elders list, so I just thought I'd say that I wish to leave the Project. The Project, not the wiki. 07:57, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerheart Alt kit
Should Tigerheart have a alt kit? I mean, he WAS mentioned mentioned as a golden tabby..... 12:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't he a golden tabby anyways? 16:11, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

he's a dark brown tabby. Sunny frost  16:16, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he is a dark brown tabby, but he has been mentioned as a golden tabby numerous times. I think he should have an alternative kit image -- 17:09, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Page revert?
It seems all the edits made in the past few hours are gone? Did someone revert the page?- Darkhallows not logged in.

i think there was a problem or something...HI DARKHOLLOWS!!!! Sunny frost  20:04, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure about that, it seems fine on my computer. 02:08, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Help!
Nettlesplashes kit version up for approval is gone!! I made it and the whole article went away I even looked in the recently diclined and approved, Can someone help? ＩShadowandBlueＩ 18:17, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I think it was declined because it was over the limit, that's what it said on the 2nd to last declined archive (?) 20:21, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

I put it up weeks ago and it was under the limit and it just went away yesterday. And I looked in the recent diclined and approved. ＩShadowandBlueＩ 20:38, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Huh? Look in Declined 32, Nettlesplash (Ki) is the third one. The comments said it was over the limit. It was declined weeks ago. 00:57, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. 03:04, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Character Art Pages
Hi! Where can I find a page that list character that need character art? Thanks! Willow heart  1231  22:03, September 4, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

You can find a link to Rainwhisker's list in the "The links! Where are the links?" discussion above. 02:27, September 5, 2010 (UTC)