Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Tweak Nominations/Declined 3

Dawnflower - Tweak Nomination
File:Dawnflower.elder.png ect. None of them match. DX Shading could use some defining on warrior and elder. and highlights could use some toning down on the queen. App needs to be lightened. 04:52, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * The apprentice and warrior were just nominated to match and I think the other two are fine. 04:59, December 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, and the apprentice will be up soon (kept on forgetting to tweak her xD) o3o 20:58, December 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * ^^^ 01:47, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Blizzardwing (W) - Tweak Nomination
File:Blizzardwing.warrior.png - It might just be my lousy eyesight, but the texture/mottles look kinda greenish  18:30, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I honestly think this is fine.  18:50, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's fine.  18:52, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Rain That Passes Quickly(TB) - Redo Nomination
File:Rain.tb.png It doesn't look very speckled to me. I'd like this. owo  17:49, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it's fine.
 * Maybe the speckles could be smudged a touch or maybe add a few more, but I don't think it needs to be redone  17:54, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it looks a bit off. The speckles are just really tiny, sparse spots, and the mud and shading are also odd-looking.  17:58, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * No it's fine  18:23, December 25, 2012 (UTC)

Rowanberry (Ki) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Rowanberry.kit.png I think the brown could be a bit more red. 00:20, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it looks fine.  02:33, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * ^^  18:17, January 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * The brown's fine, however this does need to be tweaked, the cream's really gray and doesn't match.  22:38, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's fine.  22:49, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's fine.  22:49, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Owlwhisker - Redo Nomination
File:Owlwhisker.warrior.png File:Owlwhisker.kit.png File:Owlwhisker.apprentice.png I honestly think his pattern looks like a wavy triangle tabby. I would like the warrior if this passes. 02:19, January 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * May I have the  apprentice and  kit?  02:40, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * 02:47, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's fine. Looks more of a sort of classic tabby imo.  02:48, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * As much as I love this set, I have to agree.
 * I have to agree with Skt.  02:54, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a realistic enough looking pattern to me  03:22, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Featherwhisker - Tweak Nomination
File:Featherwhisker.mca.png & File:Featherwhisker.mc.png Need a sweeping, plumy tail. I'd like these if I may. 19:11, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * 23:07, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that we decided his case would get a fluffy tail... wasn't he only mentioned with it like once or twice? And he was named after his whiskers... I dunno. I'd love to see him with a floofy tail, but I'm not sure. 23:33, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Even if he was mentioned with it once or twice, we give cats ragged fur, scars, eye-color, scraped pelts, battered pelts, we even changed Mousefur, Mudfur, and Gorsetail's whole description for being mentioned a tabby/mottled once. So I think he should get it. owo 12:46, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes but those things were actually said more than once, in the case of ragged fur, or they were named because of it (Raggedpelt, for example). Mousefur, Mudfur and Gorsetail's cases are difference, because if we don't add those in, people would think we are leaving out info. Featherwhiker plumey tail isn't exactly vital in his charart, Hollyleaf's been decribed with floofy and she hasn't got that, and the only reason Feathertail has it is because that's where she got her name from. I don't really think adding a floofy tail to those up there^ is really needed ( But Featherfloofytailwhisker would be awesome ) 13:07 Mon Jan 7
 * Though things like ragged fur and stuff get tweaks for one mention, those kind of things are descriptions that aren't already on the blanks. Longhaired cats have fluffy, and kinda plumy tails anyways. It's a matter of whether it's especially fluffy for those, since the lineart already shows somewhat fluffy tails. 15:21, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * After looking back over it,(and looking over tons of pictures of cats) I agree with you guys, he was only mentioned with it twice, in BP and in YS. So yeah if possible, may I withdraw this? x3 23:06, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Let's just roll with the votes on this one  23:56, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup let's just go ahead with votes then xD 18:42, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * What they said. 22:16, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hutch ~ Redo Nomination
File:Hutch.kittypet.png et all. Please don't shoot me gaiz ;-; But the pattern is y-stripes and triangles, and the colour is more reddish-brown, like Pinestar, rather than just dark brown. I'd like these if they pass. 11:27 Fri Jan 11
 * The stripes look fine to me, not really Y stripes, and cats do have thin triangles, triangle tabby really means thick unnatural ones. These look fine. But I gotta agree on the color.  23:10, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think he's fine altogether. There are many shades of dark brown, and I think this slightly reddish color is fine. 05:07, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree. I think he's fine. 05:08, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

05:13, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

River (Lo) - Tweak Nomination
File:River.loner.png - Darken the shading 22:17, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Might I take it?
 * We like, don't use that image anymore o3o 23:34, 14, 01, 2013
 * Oh, we got rid of them? Whoops. xD

Honeyfern - Tweak Nomination
File:Honeyfern.warrior.png ect. Just a color tweak. None of them are light brown, especially the app and kit. They're more golden brown, and too dark, and also have a green tint, though that may just be me on that one. I'd like these if they pass. Last ones I'll call for now I promise  07:12, January 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * I can send you the .xcf for the one I'm the OA of -shrugs- I'm kind of in-between on these. 08:20, January 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think they're fine. 03:57, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * ^ 04:06, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * 19:18, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * 19:18, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Stonepelt (E) - Tweak Nomination
File:Stonepelt.elder.png I honestly don't think that the scar would be that straight, especially in that position. -shrugs- But it's up to you guys. 03:17, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * I've got scratches from my own cat that are straighter than that scar. 09:50 Sun Jan 20
 * 11:10, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Ferncloud ~ Redo Nomination
File:Ferncloud.star.png (and the rest) Alright, since she's been "mistakenly" described as mottled, and her canon description is "pale gray she-cat with darker flecks", we need to portray her as a flecked cat, not a mottled one. This is a flecked cat. Flecked refers to a type of tabby cat where each hair on the cat's body is striped, as I describe in my portion of the apprentice tutorials. What she is portrayed as is mottled. Mottled is spotted or multicolored. Spottedleaf is mottled. Leopardstar is mottled. Flecked and mottled are not synonymous. I know this won't be a popular redo nomination, but these are the facts as I know them. Her current design can be kept as an alt image, but if we want to follow her canon description, she needs to actually look the part. 20:34, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but isn't it possible that she's both at the same time? Her current design is a lot like that picture given (which is a ticked tabby, flecked is just the appearance of the fur close up), with her stripes on her legs being distinct and her back blended together. It's possible that when they described mottled they could have been talking about varying the color of the blended, ticked part.  21:39, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I really don't think it needs to be redone. If anything just a tweak to make the current flecks a bit smaller and put more of them, but honestly it doesn't need to be redone. I personally think it looks fine right now, but if it ends up needing to be tweaked or redone, I want the kit and warrior, which I still have the files too. 22:26, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also on a bit of a side note, I believe by definition, both those images are mottled. 22:28, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's necessary to have all of her images redone. Mottled and flecked seem very similar in my eyes, and if you want the flecks to be more vibrant, then we can tweak them like Paleh said. For now I just think the propositions are too similar to the original image to have to be redone. 23:23, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * If the images now are considered mottled, I think we could also meet the flecked requirement if we just add a layer of texturing below the mottles. 03:46, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think what we have here is a conflict of understanding. The definitions of mottled, spotted, flecked, and the likes are blurred in the project, even thogh those three words are not completely synonymous. Maybe PCA should create a page defining the more common descriptions? If we're going to have set ways to interpret words that the project as a whole uses, and since obviously otherwise we all have conflicting definitions of these words, some page (seperate from the app tutorial) explaining what these things mean (something we vote on, like the rank definitions we did a while back) would be the most helpful thing we can do. Also, I'd be fine with Ferncloud being tweaked and the descriptions being combined. I mainly presented this nomination to bring attention to this wall we tend to reach when it comes to defining commonly used words in descriptions. 07:24, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * So I'll just hold off from posting her alt queen until something here's decided... I've always thought flecked cats had smaller, more defined, "spots", so to say, and mottled had larger, more blended patches of varying shades of fur color, sort of like Pebblefoot. I believe it could be possible she was both...the mottled as the base and the flecks as the varying color of the pelt, like Whiskey said up above. 15:03, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * In my opinion she can be tweaked, however, I think we should leave this vote up while discussing on the talk page about this 22:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * So what's going on with this, guys? o.o
 * Well since it has three nay votes and the discussion's already up on the talk page, I say just archive it, but that's just me. 00:37, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Yellowfang(E) - Tweak Nomination
File:Yellowfang.elder.png The scars are a bit neon. 16:32, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think that might be because the shading layer's under them, but idk. Sharpen the one by the eye as well, it's kinda smudgy 22:53, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's fine. 00:08, February 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * 22:29, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * 22:30 Mon Feb 11

Troutclaw ~ Redo Nomination
File:Troutclaw.elder.png et al. I really dislike how I did the stripes and the colour of the shading makes him look really blue, it's gonna be virtually impossible to put that pattern on a StarClan blank, and I'd hate to put some sorry soul through it...and (sowweh skt it's gorgeous but ;.;) the kit doesn't really match. I'd like these if they pass, but Skt can have the kit if she wants. don't shoot me plz  10:21 Mon Feb 11
 * It can have a quick color tweak by playing with the saturation values. Pattern difficulty and making it difficult for another user should not be grounds for a redo.  00:42, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah honestly, I think it looks beautiful. If the shading is too blue, just tweak it like Ivy said. 01:06, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I agree. I really do.

Sol ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Sol.rogue.png (and the rest) Sunrise, page 162, says, "The white patches on [Sol's] pelt shown very brightly." I think that's pretty self-explanitory, but, if not, all need white patches. 00:00, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * They have white patches? 00:03, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think those count as patches? I believe they should be scattered more throughout the pelt...but that's just me.
 * I think it looks plenty enough like patches. 00:34, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * 03:52, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * 17:57, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Mossyfoot ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Mossyfoot.warrior.png (and the apprentice) White looks gray. Bbun (talk) 00:20, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just saying, it's the texture causing it. 00:35, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think they're fine. 03:52, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreeing with above. 17:59, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Sunnytail (De) - Redo Nomination
File:Sunnytail.deputy.png The color seems off, and the white partially looks gray. I think that it'd be easier as a redo. I'd like this, if it passes. owo 23:41, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nope. Sorry, but I think it's fine.
 * It's fine. It's a white cat with shading, of course it's going to look a bit gray. And just because the ginger's bright doesn't mean it's off. 23:47, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's fine. 21:02, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Songbird (Q) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Songbird.queen.png The shading is a bit flat and needs to be blurred more. The shading kind of throws off the color as well. It just needs new shading, as the stripes and color are really nice. 00:24, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Honestly...I think the shading is fine. It shows depth and it seems blurred enough to me. 00:46, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * While I agree with adding more shading, as it is a taaad flat, the tinting on it is fine and the shading doesn't need to be blurred. So with the given reasons right now I'll vote nay, but if it's up just for another shading layer, I'll vote yay. 00:54, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm with them, sorry 17:46, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Stumpytail ~ Redo Nomination
File:Stumpytail.warrior.png and the rest. None of them match each other well. The stripe pattern looks different on each one, and the colors don't match. I think it would be better off to just redo, since each one looks different than the other. Comments? Bbun (talk) 17:29, March 3, 2013 (UTC)Bbun
 * Nope. They seem more than fine to me. However, if the OAs of said images wish to tweak and/or redo them, then I won't object.
 * I love these~ 18:48, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * The warrior and apprentice are fine. The kit is the only one that has an issue - the stripes are a tad too thick and blurred. That's a fault on my part - go ahead and nominate the kit for a tweak and I'll take him. owo 05:35 Mon Mar 4

Poppyfrost ~Redo Nomination
File:Poppyfrost.kit.png and the rest. White looks gray, black on the warrior, apprentice, and queen look blue, kit is too bright, earpink on warrior and apprentice is off, and none of them are pale. I'd like the apprentice if this passes. 18:20, March 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Pale just means they have white on them, Tawnypelt was just made with different colors because both are acceptable forms of a pale description. The white on the kit can be tweaked but there's absolutely no reason to redo all of these images. 18:44, March 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * This was nominated before, and it passed. However, after discussing it, we decided to keep her images how they were, as they're more than acceptable for her description.
 * Agreeing. They're fine. 20:31, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

Squirrelfur ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Squirrelfur.warrior.png Shading could be defined, and it might be just me, but he looks more red than red-brown. Bbun (talk) 00:22, February 28, 2013 (UTC)Bbun
 * Honestly, I think it looks fine. The shading is dark enough and the coloring is okay. 23:31, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * I do believe the color could be tweaked to be something like Pinestar, and if you fix that, the shading should fix itself...it looks fine otherwise, but I honestly think that color /is/ a bit off.
 * Looks fine to me. 01:15, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Fine to muah. 14:45, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Lion's Roar (Ki) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Lion's Roar.kit.png - shading makes him look kinda greenish. Be e   bs  23:34, March 6, 2013 (UTC)Bbun
 * He looks fine to me 03:56, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's the shading making it look /green/, persay...but...something about it does seem a tad bit off. I can't put my finger on it, though.
 * I think it's fine.
 * It looks a bit off, I agree. I think it might be the stripe color, since it seems a bit funky. Be  e   bs  20:53, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * He's fine. No need to nitpick every image we've got. 21:28, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Scorchwind - Redo Nomination
File:Scorchwind.warrior.png and others. Okay, this is my last nomination. None of the chararts really match each other. The stripes on the warrior look paintbrushed on, the kit's base color appears to be a few shades lighter and the shading makes him look a tad green, and the apprentice's stripes are a bit bright. The kit and apprentice can probably be tweaked/redone by their respective OAs, but I think it would be better off to just redo. I would like the warrior please. Be e   bs  20:15, March 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * However if they do get redone, Snowman would like the kit. 06:10, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * If this passes, I'd like the apprentice, since I'm the OA. 06:13, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not a huge fan of the color, but they don't need to be redone. 07:12, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * No. Just no. They're fine. .-.

Nutwhisker (W) - Tweak Nomination
File:Nutwhisker.warrior.png texture needs to be defined to match the kit and the apprentice. Be e   bs  23:10, March 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's fine. It's close enough to match and that's all that's required. 03:40, March 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreeing with Whiskey on this 'un. 03:03, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

Sparrowkit - Redo Nomination
File:Sparrowkit.kit.png The shading looks really blotchy and flat, and it needs to be blurred in some places, and some of it is missing in others. The stripes look overblurred/oversmudged, and it gives them a somewhat paintbrushy look. The stripes also look a tad green, but it's probably just my monitor. If this passes, I would love it if I could have this. Be e   bs  22:43, March 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it looks like it should. I don't see any green-ish stripes and the shading looks fine. 23:12, March 12, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I think it looks fine. That's just her way of doing stripes on kits and looks acceptable to me  00:08, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

Hoot (Ro) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Hoot.rogue.png Okay, I looked at his rogue image, and saw that his right ear is supposed to be white when it is black. ☮♞  ✞SorrelΩflower☠ ☯⛄ I needCoffee!
 * This was already nominated and it passed.

Ottersplash (W) ~ Redo Nomination
File:Ottersplash.warrior.png First of all, that white looks really gray. The shading is blotchy, and the stripes don't match the queen well. I think the queen should be kept the way it is, as it is fine. If this passes, I'm pretty sure Ducksplash would like this, am I not right? Be e   bs  21:43, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's fine. Of course the white's going to look gray. It's a white cat with shading on it. And I think it matches well. It does not need to be redone. 02:01, March 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * As per Icy. I also think we're redoing far too many images that do not need redone.
 * ^^ what they said 02:10, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Rowanberry (Ki) ~ Redo Nomination
File:Rowanberry.kit.png Okei, the colors look off compared to the other images, and the pattern doesn't entirely match. For example, the patch on her head should go down farther on --> side, and I'm pretty sure the stripe on the leg should be higher up. Also, the shading looks a tad blotchy. All in all, I think it'd be better off as a redo, and, should this pass, I'd like to have it. 02:44, 03/16/2013
 * I think it's fine. It doesn't have to match the warrior perfectly, and the shading does not look blotchy to me. If it desperately needs to be nominated, which I don't think it has to, it should be a tweak, not a redo. Overall, it looks fine and doesn't really qualify for a redo. 02:52, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * As per Icy. I'm sure Leaf can be contacted for the file if anything needs to be done with this image. And if it looks different, I believe that Leaf does her images differently, and the shading does look different from most with her images. It's perfectly acceptable and more than okay to stay how it is. Couple minor things here and there which can be fixed with the file are not grounds for a redo.
 * Agreeing. It's the way Leaf does her images, and I think it matches just fine. 16:08, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

Feathertail ~ Tweak Nomination
The colors in her right eye switch a bit too suddenly, and they look really hard-edged. 13:39 Sun Mar 24


 * Eye color is a preference that doesn't affect the state of the charart, and plus, I think it looks fine. 14:43 Sun Mar 24
 * it's fine 18:55, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Coal ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Coal.warrior.png and others He looks a bit more dark gray than black on all of the images, mainly the loner. Bb un   legs  16:45, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Honestly, it's fine. There's no difference in the color for me. 17:04, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * There's nothing wrong with them. Like at all. 19:28, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe the loner needs to be darker. It's not as dark as the other two images.
 * Um, I just color picked from both of the images and the loner is about two shades lighter than the warrior. I don't see how that qualifies for a tweak...but okay. 19:40, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, the warrior was "tweaked" a while back for being "too dark", apparently, when I color picked from the rogue when I tweaked the image the first time, when in all actuality, the warrior was fine before it was tweaked. If anything, compare it to the rogue, not the warrior.
 * If anything, the loner is lighter than the other two. This is fine. 01:24, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Sharpclaw (SC) ~ Redo Nomination
File:Sharpclaw (SC).kittypet.png and others. The stripes and colors don't really match each other that much on any of the chararts, honestly. Some of them are brighter than the other, some of them are darker. Although these could probably be tweaked by a skilled warrior, I'd think these would be better redone. If this passes, and if the OA's don't want them, I'd like the rogue and the warrior. Bb un   legs  01:20, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * No. It's fine. There's /nothing/ that qualifies for a redo, and it matches fine to me. 01:22, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * No. This is getting out of hand. Even if they don't "match", they're different stances, and different size blanks. Nothing will match 100%. These images are amazing, and I don't think the reasons present qualify it for a redo.
 * ^^^^ 01:39, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Mossyfoot (A) - Tweak Nomination
File:Mossyfoot.apprentice.png White needs whitening? 01:20, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's the texture that's doing it.
 * Uh, I think I've lost the file for this, so I guess it'll probably have to be tweaked. 22:33, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's obviously white, so I don't think it needs anything. 19:29, March 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * 20:35 Sat Mar 30
 * 20:35 Sat Mar 30