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Rock Beneath Still Water (CG) - For Approval
I know this is #41(whoa), but there's one discussion, four images in the 24 hour stage, and one to be declined. I really hate his tail. Why did Sharptooth have to bite it off? G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:58, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I really like the mud lightning, but I think the ear pink could be red, or darker. Brambleclaw14 Talk 16:45, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, his stumpy tail doesn't look right. There's no lineart to indicate where the tail ends. Try fixing that-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:25, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I like the coloring, but I think the tail would look a smidge less odd if it stuck out past the body a little bit. Not a ton, because I know it has to be short, but the way it is now it almost looks like part of the body, so if you made it stick out a bit it would be more clear that it was the tail. ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ ☚ 21:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you mean. If you do that on a cave guard blank....As for the ear pink, I took the same colour which I used on Jag, as if I'm not wrong, that's the standard colour. If I am wrong, just tell me, and I'll change it. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

But Jag isn't the same color as Rock. I can barely see the ear pink on this one-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was looking at the tail in the wrong direction, but I figured out what the problem is after looking at the blank again. I think you just forgot to put the end of the tail in? It looks like the tail just vanishes... (Maybe it's my computer screen, since his fur is so dark) but I made a diagram to show what I mean. I think when you were erasing the tail you just forgot to put in a new end, like that. As I said, I'm on a semi-cruddy monitor right now, so it might be the screen not letting me see it, but... yeah... ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ ☚ 17:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

No Insaneular, you're right. There's no end to the tail. That's what I was trying to say in my first comment.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The way you ended the tail looks odd. Maybe make it a bit longer. I dont really know how to describe what I'm talking about.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Ashshadow, can you make the tail a bit longer, so it overlaps with the front leg a bit? ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ ☚ 21:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

It is supposed to be a stump. And I don't think stumps are that long. "...whose tail was merely a stump."– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but maybe make the end more round. It looks to boxish-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:52, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

D'oh! Just ignore me, then. I was thinking just a short tail, not a stump. *fail* ☛ ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 12:06, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 04:05, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the tail is better. But his hanuch is bothering me. Do them more like this maybe?-

-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:52, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe bring the line down a little or get rid of that black pixel.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:09, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? – – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

There is a black spot above his foot. Either get rid of it or connect the leg to it. I can make an example if you need it.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 14:47, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:34, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more shading and blend it. The shading you have now has been donne on highlights right? It looks very... saturated ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:37, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 11:54, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit brighter and more noticeable. Also, blur the mud streaks a tad bit more. -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 19:19, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Also add a streak to his head-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:50, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Color the nose in. If it already, make it lighter. Good job! Birchy 17:30, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. btw, I'm going to another state for my granddad's first death anniversary, so I won't be on on the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and the 7th, so please do not decline.– – ``` G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w ``` – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 12:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add a mudstreak to the middle of his haunch.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:32, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Icicle (K) For Aprroval


Hi! This is my first charart. It's Icicle the kit from the Ravenpaw's Path Manga series. Please leave comments and stuff so I can fix it. Also, as an apprintice I want to say Bluestar's tutorial was very helpful. Thank you Bluestar! I had no clue what to do! This isn't very good but like I said, it's my first cat. Tell me what to do and thanks! May StarClan light your path!Artimas Hunter 19:14, January 8, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, first of all in needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail. Second, I see you've saved it in jpg format. It's a way better idea to save it in either png. or gif. Third, the background needs to be transparent right now it's black. Fourth, the eyes need eye white. Look at this for help--User:Icethroat21/Tutorials. Fifth, the ear pink is to hot pink, make it lighter and then blur. Sixth, she's supposed to be pale gray, with a white stripe on her forhead, a white chest, see here -Icicle She just looks white. Darken the gray on her pelt, and blend the spots where it's supposed to be white-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:23, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Glad I could help! Ok, go back and save it in your image program, but save it as a PNG, so the background will be transparent. You need to make the white mark very, very pale gray, and darken the pelt color. The ear pink looks too hot pink - see the chart on my tutorials for reference. He needs highlights, and the shading needs to be darkened/thickened. The eyes also need a glare (little white dot). See Icethroat's tutorials on how to do the eye. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆23:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits! I changed it so it fits both of your suggestions!Artimas Hunter 17:11, January 9, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Better. Now blur the white parts.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Artimas Hunter 20:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This looks good =) You need to blur the white a bit more though - try looking at some other patched cats to see how much to blur. Also, the shading needs to be a bit thicker and blended in more. Look at Applefur's kit version for an example as to how I would shade a kit. Be careful not to blur the lineart though. This is a great start to a first image =) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  20:30, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I think it turned out okay too. :D Is this better?Artimas Hunter 21:01, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This is really good but, darken the earpink a tad.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this is better? I'm so excited for it to be approved! I hope it's soon!00:05, January 12, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay sorry if this goes into another chart, my computer's got a problem, anyways here is Icicle again for approval. Comment back! I think she's almost ready for approval but I am kinda biased on the opinion! :D Artimas Hunter 21:42, January 13, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Hi! I know I'm being really impatient but I'm bored and no one has comented for days. Would someone have mercy and comment PLEASE??!! I want her to be approved cause I made 2 other chararts that are ready to go when she gets approved.Artimas Hunter 22:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

The highlight looks too bright Icecloud33  00:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''I think you're looking at the white chest and think theyre highlights. The earpink color still isnt quite right, try a color like Tess or Husker and blur it'''.The font is actin up on me T.T Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:42, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you soooooooooooo much for commenting! i think I was about to explode! :D I see what you mean aboutt the font.....anyways, here is Icicle revised! Ashshadow is right, she has a white chest not highlights but if those were highlights they would be WAY to bright! What do you think? I'm so excited!Artimas Hunter 01:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

- Okay, I know this is my own image and I don't normally give them as examples, but you need to make the shading thicker and darker and blurred. You could also use Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better?Artimas Hunter 23:50, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the shading some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:07, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Artimas Hunter 20:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Getting there =) Add some shading under the neck and on the face ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:11, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Thanks, I hope I get done soon! It's turning out way better then I thought it would!Artimas Hunter 22:11, January 21, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, now blend the shading ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? It's not blurring well biut that might just be me. Do you think it needs more?Artimas Hunter 00:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

A little more. Also - you seem to have hit the lineart in places. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:15, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I did it. It's not blurring well, I think I burned it too much. Do you think I should start over?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:54, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I would say so only because the lineart would be hard to fix. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:28, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I urned it andblurred it too sloppily. I'm going to go redo it now. Thanks. -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 00:47, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sootfur (Ki) For Approval
I know this is the 41st one, but there are 1 or 2 join requests and like 4 with a comments before approval on them. So here is one of my favorite ThunderClan cats as a kit! -- Night whisker 9 8 Merry Leaf-bare! 21:36, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shding alot more please. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 22:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Better?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:16, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

abit more.And the shading near the left side of the head looks weird to me. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 23:46, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more and darken ear pink. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:violet;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 01:50, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, how's this? And FirePelt, what do you mean by it looks weird. If you could help me, that would be great.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:24, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, but the lineart is a little patchy, and the ear pink is hardly visible.-- Dark hallows 14:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Patchy how?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 15:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks blurred in some places.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Anything else?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, the ear pink is too large and barely visible, and theres no dodging. Otherwise, it's great! :D Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

I'm not sure about this, but highlights aren't required, although shading is, also I have blurred the shading to the max on pixlr, If you wanted to help me with the shading, that would be awesome, and about the earpink, what color should it be?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

You're right about highlights, they're not required. And as for the ear pink, look at his warrior image for help on the color- Sootfur-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:45, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Soory, but uploads are disabled. I fixed the ear pink color though.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:33, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuloaded. better now? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:24, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading on his hind foot. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:41, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:12, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this ok? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:16, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the lineart for you, as you'd distorted it a quite bit... other than that, all I really see is that the hind paw needs a little more shading on it's far end, and to blur the existing shading. Also, don't upload a new file each time; just upload over the old file name. -- Bramble -sama  02:35, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the eyes. They look scary. Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box06:43, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Scary How? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 13:46, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I think what Quaily means is that the eyes look sort of orange. I think. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading under the chin. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:39, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I used his warrior image's eye color, but i'll fix it. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

How would i fix the eyes? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 19:48, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. Also add shading under the chin. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  22:34, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Move the highlight on top of the pupil ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:16, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a tad gray.-- Dark hallows 06:53, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks fine to me. Try to blur the shading on his paws some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:34, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks - For Approval


Ok here are the Sharpclaw blanks from left to right it short hair male, short hair female, long hair male and long hair female. What do you think? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

These are great! Maybe for the long haired you could make the face a bit shaggy.  Night shine   ★  01:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean like add couple lines like what on the chest to show the fur? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah.  Night shine   ★  01:43, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded how is that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 02:50, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, these are really good, but I think Hawktalon (Or Flamingomom) had these reserved first. The date says Jan. 11 Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's great! But I guess Hawtalon did reserve it first. Maybe these could be something else? But there is nothing else  Night shine   ★  03:03, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I guess you could ask Hawktalon if you could keep these. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:05, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Shot I looked but I guess I missed her. I spoke to her know I'm waiting to hear back. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 03:34, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I kinda dought Hawktalon's on right now. You might have to wait until tomorrow Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

i heard back from Hawktalon she said that i could have it : ) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 21:44, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thickin the line art for the features such as eyes and nose. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Really good! But maybe thicken the pupil in all the eyes. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 22:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok before I edit all of them here is what one looks with thicker lines on the featues and thicker puplis does it look better? Personaly I like the first ones better <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 22:19, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the pupils but I think the features look better. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I've got a few things. First of all, they all look kinda sad, like their whiskers are all droopy and their eyes are flat. Both the ears and paws are too round. Sharpen the ears some, and as for the paws, make them a little more flat on the bottom. And then their elbows look a little too flappy, make them a little straighter Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:13, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

ok how is this? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:33, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think the "eyelashes" on the females should be at a more horizontal angle--  Night shine   ★  00:43, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded like that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:55, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's better!--  Night shine   ★  00:58, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add a line at where the muzzle begins, like on the leader images. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:02, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Their backs should not be one equal slope, there should a small bump where the shoulder is after going down a little, then it down in the slope of the rest of thier back. You can look at sitting cat pictures for examples, such as this one: Link I know he's facing a different direction, but it's the same basic idea. Bramble -sama  02:14, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble's right about their backs. But also, could you upload the changes you made onto all of the blanks? It's getting kind of confusing-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:12, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Here is an example I made. Could you please add the muzzle line like I did? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:47, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

These are really good but it's been 10 days. Please work on them. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:34, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah sorry my computer had a virus and it took forever to get it taken care of <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 02:27, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded i replaced the orginal one with the latest version of them<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 02:40, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

The elbows on the shorthaired ones look kinda weird. Make them like the ones on the longhaired blanks-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:47, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded forgot to fix their elbows when i fixed the longhair's <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 03:20, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The front leg farthest from us looks a little fat compared to the other one. Maybe, make it a bit thinner?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:47, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge (KP) - For Approval
nobody has him up plus i really wanted to do him so please don't decline this! Echopaw 15:09, January

16, 2010 (UTC)

He looks nothing like his picture in Cats of the Clans.Look at that for a refrence.And theres no need for ear pink on the farthest ear.Also,it's to dark and looks more like a acute triangle,amke it alittle smaller and blur it. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 15:16, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter whether you really wanted to do him or not, Shruggy (Brambleclaw14) has him on his current projects. I am going to decline this, sorry. People 'reserve characters because they really want to do them, and if you want to put characters up either add them to your own list before anyone else does, or discuss it with the person who has it reserved before you post. Declined for said reasons.
 * Note: nobody has him up because the blanks have been approved not 5 minutes ago.

Also - approval has an 'a' not an 'e' ;) Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  15:32, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sandy Echopaw can do him. the thing I use for making then isn't working (nothing is working :[ ) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:48, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, back up for approval. Sorry to hear that Shruggy. Echo - just remember for next time Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  15:55, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the patches looks odd to me, or is it supposed to be like that?-- Moss I'm Up There!  19:03, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty good, but i think it could use some more shading, and also, blur the patches a lot. The edges look rough now. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 19:40, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, that's not exactly fair. I reserved him, and I thought nobody can take your reservation. Plus: I did him earlier, see? I thought I did a good job too. :( Swiftpelt 19:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

When you reserved him Brambleclaw14 had him first.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw's reservation wasn't on there before the new Character thing. When I put it up there, nobody had it. Oh well.... :'( Swiftpelt How's the prey running? 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Shruggy definitely had him first because I checked when I removed him from your current projects. Sorry Swiftpelt. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  20:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Echopaw,he looks nothing like his image in cats of the clans.In it,he's a black cat with small white spots on various places.Look in that book for a refrence once again. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt: Give him/her a chance - it's only been a couple of hours; you can't expect everyone to edit an image that quickly. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  22:30, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I know,but still.For some reason I get paranoid on things like this.I want them to be as accurate as possible.Also,his eyes are supposed to be amber. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

thanks sandy and im a she! Echopaw 22:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and Cats of the Clans it terribly inaccurate in some images. I never pictured Smudge like he was portrayed in that book. But our chararts don't really have to look like their images in Cats of the Clans. Take Heathertail for example. She looks nothing like she's supposed to in Cats of the clans, she's orange with purply eyes. But her charart was done beautifully, the way she was described in the book. So, I don't think that should be an issue -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Smudge's base color is black. I guess you can replace the white with black, and the black with white.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well wait a minute, we don't know that. There are so many mistakes in that book that we can't be sure. I think it's fine if we just keep it white with black patches.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:27, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think we need to go on written evidence as we cannot be sure the pictures are entirely correct seeing as they were an artist's own impression of the characters and not Erin Hunter's own work. As long as the image fits the book descriptions we have of him, I think it'll be okay Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, as for the image. The eyes do need to be amber, as that's been cited from the book. The ear pink looks too purple, make it more reddish like this -- Bone -- Blur the patches more, and add some more shading to the head -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED sorry well here he is Echopaw 22:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The patches and earpink need to be blurred more.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED here is he any better? Echopaw 14:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Right now it looks like there's lineart around the patches, it needs to be blended between the black and white to be a gray-ish color. For examples, look at Patchpelt, Mousewhisker, Toadstep, Crowfrost, Cloudspots, Smoky, Floss, Fritz, or Splash. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:56, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 16:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The patches still need to be blurred a lot, and so does the ear pink. Also, there needs to be ear pink on his right ear also -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

No NIght, that ear is turned away from us. Blur the shading on his head. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be a lot smaller, so it fits inside the ear. Blur as well, like Night says, on all the shading. Bramble -sama  02:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded Echopaw 21:01, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still purple. Look at Splash to get the right color, and then really blur it. Also, the shading on his head still needs to be blurred a lot. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:29, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better! Echopaw 23:26, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Swiftpelt i took down your smudge cause it was really confusing me! Echopaw 00:39, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks very purple to me, and the shading needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 13:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little more. Also lighten the shading on his head. The ear pink looks very purple. Perhaps make it like Whitestorm. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:16, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the ear looks really purple. Does anyone else agree? Maybe you should try and change the colour completely? You could also make the pink (purple) ear smaller? Fawnstorm 19:32, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink, and blue the shading, not that it's really needed. Apart from that, you're good to go! Birchy 17:32, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  10:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Uhh School work hard! so hard! ganna die! any ways here he is! the first part explains every thing;) style="font-family:Papyrus;border:2px solid; color:darkgreen;"> echo paw  13:50, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Now the earpink is too bright. Try getting the color from another black cat since the ear is black.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:20, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 16:43, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks really weird.....maybe shrink it and then blur some more.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:40, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:40, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 19:57, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks a tad too purple.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  20:47, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's still way to purple. It's way to big, and it doesn't even look like you blurred, just smudged it a lot. Look at an approved kittypet for an example on how to do the ear pink. - Jigsaw, Seville, Princess-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:46, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Well most of it is the shading Echopaw 00:20, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Cedarpaw (A) - For Approval


This is my first charart so it's not that good. ^^; How can I improve it? Lotusfire 17:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

This is a really good charart for your first one,but,which ever Cinderpaw this is,they both have a apprentice charart.Im sorry. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 17:39, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt is right. Perhaps take the pixels from the eye and change the eye colour to amber and this can be Cedarheart's app pic? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:53, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, good idea Sandy :) Try that Lotus! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:01, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree.But s/he might have to change the pelt color,seeing as it is darker than the elder and warrior image. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 20:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC) 

Nothing the dodge tool cant fix. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, the dodge tool is like the shading tool, except it lightens. It looks like a little microphone. Get a large brush size and just run over the image a few times, and erase a few of the pixels of the eye to make it look masculine. That's about it. -- Bramble -sama  02:04, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I changed it, it might not be blurred enough, but how is it? Lotusfire 03:20, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

It still needs to be lightened a bit. Look at Cedarheart's elder and warrior images to get an idea of how light it should be - Cedarheart -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:23, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's lighter now, I'm still a compy art noob. >.<;;; Lotusfire 03:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

The colour looks fine to me now. Just blend the shading and highlights Lotus. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:57, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I blurred more. Lotusfire 01:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's kind of hard to see the ear pink. Maybe make it more of a reddish color, like his elder image. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:44, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

There is a little shadow under his tail. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:43, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Snowfur (K) for approval
First charart is this okay Seastar  19:59, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't see any shading. Look at some apprentice tutorials to learn how to shade a white cat-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:59, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfall, there is shading. I've learned a trick, when I look at my laptop from different angles determines whether you can see the shading on a white cat or not...Spottedsky, thicken and darken the shading and this should be good. This is awesome for your first try! --  Icy -chan   ☆  02:18, January 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * In Bluestar's Prophecy its mention that her ears are gray.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  19:10, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Must have been a typo, because they're blue. It says right here- ''"Snowkit!" Bluekit breathed. "What is it?" Snowkit blinked open her eyes. They were blue.''. Bluestar's prophecy, pg 10. And, after Whitestorm was born Bluestar mentioned countless times of how much Whitestorm's blue eyes reminded her of Snowfur's eyes. And on top of that, her apprentice, warrior, and queen images have blue eyes.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:13, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

You must have misread ears for eyes. I think they are supposed to be gray tiped. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:17, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that's right. Spottedsky, make her ear tips gray. Look at one of her approved character pixles if you have trouble-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:14, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Better Seastar  01:17, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Umm, what do you mean by that?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:19, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Huh changes aren't showing. Try it again, then upload. If not you'll have to change the file name. So add the gray ear tips and blur the shading more. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? they are showing up now Seastar  01:28, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Can you maybe darken the shading a tad? I know it's there, but it would be easier to run over the burn tool once or twice, then blur. Swifty How's the prey running?

I already darkened the shading once should it still be darker? Seastar 00:55, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

No, I think the shading is fine :) But, the ear pink looks almost purple. Make it more, reddish-pink. And the gray on her ears needs to be at the tip of the ears. Right now, the whole ear is gray. Put it more on the tip, and darken it-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:42, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Charm Paw  20:13, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry forgot ear tips again better? Charm Paw  20:19, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is better, but the gray on the tips of her ears needs to be darkened more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:48, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Charm Paw  20:57, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Blur the earpink a tiny bit more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:11, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? Charm Paw  21:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes but I forgot to mention that you need to blur the shading. Sorry. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:19, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Its okay Better? Charm Paw  21:23, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

This may be my computer but I barely see any shading - just some around the legs and left side. Can you darken the shading under her chin and on her head and her (our) right side? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:26, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Charm Paw  00:19, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yes but can you add some to the head and under the chin too? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:02, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

And blur it a little more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:44, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I did both but it was a little hard to blur. Charm Paw  01:28, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think this is almost ready! Just darken the shading her hind paw  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:34, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Fuzz (KP) - For approval
Evanphoto 12:36, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, thicken the shading all around, and it looks like there's a black blob on the edge of the collar tag....? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  13:11, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 13:26, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading then blur it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:13, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Evanphoto 01:45, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a reddish color Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:44, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:46, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Any comments? Evanphoto 22:51, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on his back, and the ear pink still looks a little bit purplish (Is that a word?) -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:39, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? Evanphoto 12:15, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on his back still needs to be just a smidge bigger. But the ear pink is much better :)-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any other stuff? Evanphoto 12:24, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back. And where it stops for the hind leg, make it a little rounder. Birchy 17:35, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is that it? Evanphoto 16:51, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe fill in that square where there is no shading. I can explain more if you need me too. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:47, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Please explain Evanphoto 23:01, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Well theres a gap in the shading. If you scroll down and look at sasha, I think you can see what I mean. If not I could made you a diagram. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:10, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't see it Evanphoto 00:27, February 1, 2010 (UTC) Sory, I don't see it

I think Ashshadow means that little squarish spot on his back. Like, where it's thick, then it stops being thick, then continues being thick again. Just thicken that part in the middle. Is that what you meant Ashy?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:57, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. Thanks for explaining it better Nighty. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:22, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:04, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't look like yo changed anything  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 18:21, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the back shading Evanphoto 22:13, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Pinepaw--For Approval
Wow, this, I think is my third apprentice. Or my Fourth. Actually, it's my fifth. I've done way to many apprentices; over have my images are apprentices. I could ramble on and on....but I won't. So, Comments?

Whoops forgot earpink.... Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:45, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, just blur all the shading more, and make the earpink a little brighter and less purple-y. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  13:08, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 13:16, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 01:25, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and make the ear pink smaller. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:28, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:45, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 12:52, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:53, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on both of the legs farthest from us-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:37, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 23:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 22:04, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Anything at all? Maplefern Hi everyone! 03:13, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me! Comments Before Approval? And Maple, users will comment when they can get on. Please don't rush them.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Night. I tried to be paitent, but it doesn't come naturally. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 12:31, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

L.O.L Mapple, I always have to stop my self from asking especialy, when user won't comment on yours, but will other peoples... I feel like I have to be held back! >:P. L.O.L your not alone... -- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:20, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Rose(KP)- For Approval
Well I tried to do her but she needs alot of work.Echoheart 14:00, January 24, 2010 (UTC)



Didn't I have her reserved, or did Echo have her first? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  15:23, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mouse: you have Mistyfoot and Whitetail? Echoheart has Rose from what I can see ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:27, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

face palm* I had her reserved, but then I edited hger out. *another face palm* Møųş  ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  15:42, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, for the image Echoheart: The shading seems to be lighter than the pelt colour... you need to use the burn tool to shade. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:20, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I personally think that she still needs alot of work.Echoheart 17:28, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too purplish, and she looks nothing like her sister, Lily. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  18:59, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Two cats wouldn't look exactly the same. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:02, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too purplish. Also, the shading is still lighter than the pelt and needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:05, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but her fur looks almost... greenish? Maybe make it more cream colored? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  19:21, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I thought Nightfall had reseved this? Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.00:27, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I reserved it the day the kittypet blanks were approved. But I decided that I wanted somebody else to be able to do Rose, cuz in my opinion, doing Lily was fun. But I only had her reserved for a day or two. But Insaneular is right about her fur, it looks very green on my computer-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:10, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''To me, she looks ALOT better than before. Anything else?Echoheart 11:23, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

She looks better but there are bits of color outside of the lineart and places where the brown doesn't touch the lineart. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:11, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks very sudden in places. Blur it. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  00:06, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else?Echoheart 11:30, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

The brown still isnt touching the line art in some places. mostly the tail and front leg. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:19, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Do I need anything else?--Echoheart 12:10, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a lot more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:50, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The image looks very smudged. -- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:18, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Purdy (Lo) - For Approval
*gulps* This was soo hard to copy Quiet's work! *dies* Oh well, I can improve it. Constructments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 15:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add some stripes down the legs. Maplefern Hi everyone! 16:15, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's really nice! Maybe add more shading, blur the tabby marks a little bit and do what Maple said. Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:15, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Are the changes showing? I blurred the tabby marks, added shading (oh yes I forgot to) and I added some tabby marks down the legs. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 02:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, now that there's shading, it needs to be darkened, and the two legs in the back (his left legs) need to be darker than the front two (his right legs), and also add a few more stripes to his left legs. Otherwise, this looks really good! --  Icy -chan   ☆  03:11, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this better? Are the changes showing? And thanks everyone. I thought this one was going to be a total fail. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 22:23, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the changes are showing up, and if they are then add more stripes to his legs-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:32, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added more stripes to the legs. No Night the changes are showing. How can I tell? I have super vision. ;) ♥Ice♥  ♥storm♥  00:05, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

His shoulder looks kinda bare. Add more stripes. Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:09, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I see stripes on his shoulder. Or am I not looking at the shoulder? ^_^ ♥Ice♥  ♥storm♥  00:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The lower half, just around where it connects to the leg. Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:18, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I see stripes in places and the shoulders. Is that the image or is it just meh? XD ♥Ice♥  ♥storm♥  00:27, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think they mean right where the front leg connects to the body, rather than the higher shoulder area near his spine. Does that help? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  00:29, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think they mean his chest ;)-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wow, I'm more than an idiot than I thought I would be. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  23:24, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

That patch of fur on his hip has a very thick line art. Thin it out a bit.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:43, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Um, I don't know how too. (?) Ice  <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros....  23:07, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Hattie (KP) - For Approval
*stares* My worst image ever by far...comments and suggestions? (Yesh! Number 35! I'm not over the limit! Yay...) --  Icy -chan   ☆  17:02, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's not worse!! I actually love it! All I see (but might no be necessary-it's just a comment) maybe make teh ear and nose a little more pinkish. Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:09, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlight did its job! Just dark the nose pink a bit, as Hidden said. Maplefern Hi everyone! 17:11, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. *sighs in relief* Okay, I'm glad it wasn't as horrible as I thought. ;) --  Icy -chan   ☆  18:41, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the nose pink the same color as the earpink. This is really good! Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:43, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made it more of a reddish-brown color, but if I made it the same color as the ear pink then it would be way too dark, so I chose the ear pink color with the colorpicker tool and then made it a lighter color of the colors in that range. (If any of that actually made sense then yay. :P) The point being: does it look any better? --  Icy -chan   ☆  19:06, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yup =) Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:08, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look odd, not like tabby stripes. I'm not sure would you could do about it, though, maybe just tinker with them? Dark hallows 18:56, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but it looks like the stripes in the highlighted area look more blurred than in the shaded area. But this is wonderful, way better than how mine would look! Moss I'm Up There!  20:46, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

...I'm not exactly sure what to do, could you maybe try and explain it a little bit more? --  Icy -chan   ☆  22:27, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby stripes on the back where the highlights are the brightest are more blurred than the ones, oh, let's say on the haunch and such. They need to be blurred evenly. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  00:07, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. *cries in horror* Ah~ I ended up drawing the tabby stripes again with the burn tool...and this now officially looks horrible! Let me know what I can do to fix this horrible thing. --  Icy -chan   ☆  22:56, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

O.o OMG THIS IS SOOOO GOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!! I love it sooooooo much. Minn owc law 01:32, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on her body aren't bad at all :) But the stripes on her face look strange. They look way to thick, make them thinner. Especially the tabby M above her eyes-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:52, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks Minnow and Night, I'm glad you think that this is getting better because I think that it's getting worse and worse. :) --  Icy -chan   ☆  23:05, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Don't be so hard on yourself Icy. I like the image. Just blur the face highlight more and maybe disconnect the m from the stripe on the side of her face. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:10, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Aww, thanks Ash. The only reason I'm so hard on myself is because I'm horrible at tabbies and can't seem to find a good style that I like. :) Anyway, is this better? --  Icy -chan   ☆  23:33, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Lol. Who are you telling about tabbies. If you look on my page at all the tabbies i've done they're all a different style XD. any about the pic, yup its better. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:43, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

The stripe on the head looks like a M. Fix that and this should be good.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:17, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

That's the tabby "M" Minnow. It looks fine to me. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:29, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

It's supposed to look like an "M", lots of the images have them. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 17:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Gorsetail(W)- For Approval


Beautiful! Just make the ear pink and add a pupil to the eyes. Hidden -Valentine ღ  18:43, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is great =) It doesn't look anything like her queen version though... ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  18:47, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

How's this?

I redid it. *post below* Featherblaze 18:58, January 24, 2010 (UTC)Featherblaze

Reopload an image over the same name and don't make a new section each time as this is over the limit. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:00, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, this is right on the limit, as one of the sections is a disscusion. Swifty How's the prey running?

I just merged the two sections and archived the discussion. The patches need to be more defined. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:38, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Her queen image is short-haired. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:20, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink is too bright. Would she need an alternate image since she is mentioned as a tom in TFA or just keep her a she-cat? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:01, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

hmmm She had kits for StarClan's sake! Why can't the Erins just remember that? I don't think an alternative version is appropriate unless her appearance also changes because changing the gender is just one pixel in the eye... nobody looking at her pae will really notice so we can just say in her article that she was referred to as male in TFA. That's PC though ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  18:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

But what Mousetalon pointed out is right. Her queen image is short-haired Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 18:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Sandy on the alternate version thing, but as for the actual image, I think the patches need to be more solid, and lighter, so it looks more like her queen image. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:03, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sasha(KP)-For approval


Im not sure about this one, it probably fails. Anyways, comments?(it's Firepelt,I have to fix my siggy because its messed up.

Not bad, just darken and blur the shading, and also, her eyes looks a bit neon blue to me, make them more neutral, like Heathertail's maybe? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:47, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Firepelt, while you fix your siggie, can you at least put something like Firepelt so that it looks like this: Firepelt and has the time shown, that way there's a link to your user page and from there we can get to your talk page. For the image itself, Insane covered almost all of it, but make the ear pink more of a reddish color, like on Rippletail's or Mossypaw. --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I had gotten her Ear pink directly from her rouge image, but i'll make it more of a red color. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  21:15, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  21:15, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good Fire! But bur the shading more. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  21:11, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Thank you Ice. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  00:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Something is missing... Why not get the Dodge tool and run it over the hind leg and shoulder once or twice? Maybe the head needs a good Dodging too. After that, It will look so much livelier! Swifty How's the prey running?

Dodge her? Why? I got her color directly from her rouge image though. Why dodge? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  02:06, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have to admit, Im not the best as dodging. Really! Im not. truth is, im horrible. I dont think i'll be able to do that. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  02:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading. Maplefern Hi everyone! 02:18, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I could Dodge it for you, if you'd like. Swifty How's the prey running?

Reuploaded.I blurred the shading, you can try to dodge it you you'd like, Swifty, then post it on my talk page to see if i'll use it instead.Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  16:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

blur the shading a bit. Minn owc law 01:23, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else?

No, I think this is ready now. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:15, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think more shading is needed on the face, tail and foreleg and it all needs blending some more. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Echosong (KP) - For Approval


Echo!! One of my favs characters! Well this is my fail at doing these kind of tabby marks...horrible!? Comments? Critics? Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:43, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! But some of the stripes don't connect with the lineart, mostly on her tail and back-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:18, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well because her other charart doesn't show her back I put teh tabby markings like this because i tried making them shorter but it looked really ugly and on teh tail well I can fix it. Hidden -Valentine ღ  20:27, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is awesome! But I think her eyes look darker on her medicine cat image. What does everyone else think? Mistyheart 17:32, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

They do but it's probably because the eye is smaller on her med cat image. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 17:42, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

The eye on teh other pixel is darker but if I try making the eyes darker it looks horrible and not even real.But if you want I can change the color. Hidden -Valentine ღ  18:28, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, I can't really see it. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  22:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-darken shading. Hidden -Valentine ღ  23:10, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't she have deep green eyes? these look like yellow-green eyes Angel  Paw  00:45, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

If I put deep green eyes, they will look really bad on her and unreal.(and your siggy looks just like mine confused me for a second) I put the other image with the green eyes beside her.which one is better? Hidden -Valentine ღ  14:23, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Totaly the one on the right.:) M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:34, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Minnow. And I can't see anything else. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:35, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like the one on the right, too, and I can't find anything else that's wrong with the image. --  Icy -chan   ☆  16:33, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Personally, I like the one on the left. But that's just me. You should probably go with the right one, seeing as that matches her description more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:27, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I do like the one on the right, but you're right when you say it looks a bit unreal. Try lightening it just a tad more, and there are ways to add more depth to it. Like, make it darker on the top, closer to her eye lid, and lighter as it goes down. The queen and leader images are good examples for that-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:11, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I kinda fixed the eye..does it show? Hidden -Valentine ღ  00:53, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

It shows to me. I think this is ready now. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:13, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenfur (A)- For approval
Hi, this is Beewing. I've just finished my first charart. I'm not sure if it's bad or good, but do you approve of it?



First things first, I removed the thumbnail, and put in the Full sized image. Also, you did the wrong eye. See the Apprentice tutorials for the right eyes. Swifty How's the prey running?

The line art looks strange. Blur the ear pink some more--  Night shine   ★  01:45, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I know why too Nightshine, she saved it as JPEG. From now on Beewing, try to save it as PNG. Swifty How's the prey running?

Also, this is the 36th image, and the page limit is 35, in the future, please be wary of the page limit. This is quite good for a first Charart, though. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  01:58, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blackclaw at the top is being withdrawn though.--  Night shine   ★  02:03, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The eye is huge. Save Ashfur's apprentice image, upload it onto your art program and zoom in on the eye. Then copy the eye design from that-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:34, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

There are also eye diagrams on the tutorials. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  03:06, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Also, it's a JPEG. When you save it, there's a bar that says, 'JPEG: Good for most pictures', with a down arrow by it. Click it, and make it, 'PNG: Transparent, good- quality'. That will fix the problem. Try to remember that. I do it too. Birchy 17:39, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

After fixing the eye and file type, just blur the ear pink a little more, this is quite well done for a first image. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:29, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

the eyes look scary fix them Iceyfang 20:26, February 1, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

Ruby (KP)-For approval
I don't have much to say. First kittypet. Everyone seems to be in the mood, and I don't want to be left out :) Moss I'm Up There!  21:27, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, this is good but does she need a kittypet image? Think about it. They were kits when they were kittypets, and these blanks are for full grown cats. We wouldn't use a rogue blank for Tadpole. I think they're good with the images they've got already, the kit blanks but with collars. I don't know, what do the rest of you think?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:28, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Firetstar has a kittypet image, and nobody said anything about him. Besides, how much time did elaspse during the Rise of Scourge? Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:54, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfall, it's true. they were kittypets in the rise of Scourge while he started BloodClan so wouldn't they kittypet images. They would have grown up as Kittypets Angel  Paw  00:59, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, for the image, darken the shading a little bit or add some brighter highlights. Other wise it looks great!-- Minn owc law 01:05, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Forget my last comment. Just blur the shading a bit more.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:32, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The tail shading wouldn't blur anymore, and then the shading on the shoulder got darker. Moss I'm Up There!  16:54, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Featherwhisker(MCA) - For Approval
I know it says it's the 40th, but five of the messages are unrelated to the chararts, making mine the 35th. Well, what do you think? It's my very first Charart! It was really hard, but I think it's ok. I wasn't sure if the herbs looked ok, so I put them like that. Just a little question, say someone said change the herbs to green, I edit it, and then what? Do I upload the new one? Anyway, comments?

Edit: Everytime I upload it, it's pixelated. I don't know how to change it without doing it again, and making it pixelated.Birchy 18:09, January 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok when you reupload it go to File:Featherwhisker.jpg then go down and you should see upload new file os something like that cick it and then upload the new character art, I'll say something about the pic but I've got to eat frist :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 18:18, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks Bramble! Birchy 18:19, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Back :) on the pic yep I think you should make the herbs green look at Jayfeather you get the color :) also call me Shruggy as Bramble is called Bramble :) and good character art Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 19:07, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ok then. And, by the comment, do you mean call you Shruggy on the Bramble14 account, and Bramble, on the Bramble account? Birchy 19:20, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Birchy 19:28, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble and Brambleclaw14 (aka Shruggy) are two different users. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:32, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

It looks pixlated. That is because you saved as a JPG. Redo the image as a PNG. Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:25, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

So, do I need to redo the image? Birchy 10:05, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I decided to do it again. It didn't take long, besides, I don't know how to change it from JPEG, to PNG. Birchy 10:28, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the shading and add a highlight to the herbs.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:30, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid it again, because it looked strange. my pixel problem is solved: I just need to remember to put png. Birchy 15:10, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blend the shading. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:37, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I can't get it blurred without blurring the lineart. Birchy 21:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The way to not blur lineart is by using layers. The way to do it in most image programs is the same. First, open up your image, then, use the wand select tool to select all the lineart. Then Cut it (Control/Command+X) and make a new layer on the image, then paste the lineart into that layer, now you can do the color separately from the lineart. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:27, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sparrowpelt (SC) (KP) - For approval


I found Boris who is also a dark brown tabby tom so I can still use this. THE SECOND ONE IS NOT DONE. I just want to no which tabby strips are better. Please give you opinion.-- Minn owc law 00:21, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like the first design better.--  Night shine   ★  00:26, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Good, I am better at that, any other votes? Minn owc law 00:29, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like the first one :) Evanphoto 00:47, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, the first one it is. Now I'm ready for critice. Thank you insaneular for help on my sig! M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 01:02, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Nice to see ya back Minnow :). The earpink is a little too bright. Good job besides that. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:09, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded LOL, anyone who remembers me knows that I always had a problem with that :P.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 01:16, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I have been very kindly asked to switch this from boris to Sparrowpelt and that is what I'm going to do so this is now sparrowpelt.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 02:39, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

For the image itself, make the ear pink more of a reddish color like on Rippletail or maybe Stick, but otherwise I'm glad that you're back Minnow! But I noticed in your new siggie (which I think is awesome), you put Usertalk instead of User talk, and Usercontributions instead of user contributions or speical:contributions/Minnowclaw, so it's leaving red links everywhere, if you could fix that it'd be awesome. --  Icy -chan   ☆  03:11, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ya, that was in my old one, but I fixed it and now my new one doesn't do that. It'll get to the image tommorow. I have no intrest to work at 12:58am becaue I will probably make him look like a crazy mine reading cat because of lack of sleep :P M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 02:39, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

reuploded and I also made him a little darker.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:27, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

He has the normal, pointy stripes. Not the Y-shaped ones. Maplefern Hi everyone! 14:38, January 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * ( I'll fix him now...-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The second one is a check to make sure I'm doing it right. is it okay? *hides behind a rock waiting to hear yowls of disproval*-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:58, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not going to let out yowls of dissaproval, don't worry. :) But this still isn't the right type of stripes, try looking at his warrior version for help. Also, make the brown a bit darker, the brown doesn't look the same as his warrior version either. --  Icy -chan   ☆  16:05, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Is there like a tutorial on how to do these stripes because I suck at them... :( M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 22:12, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Here ;) ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

ReuplodedThanks Sandy, Nice sig! Okay, I don't think I did too great of a job, but I used the same colors, made him short haired and gave him the right eye colour.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 22:30, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oops. You couldn't see the ear pink there... -- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 18:35, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the shadig transition a little more. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:19, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I know that there looks like there is no difference, ut it is blended to the max now.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 22:16, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Susan(KP)-For Approval
Well,Sandy put Sasha CBA few hours ago,so I guess its okay.I used Insane's tutorials..--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:53, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back, the tabby stripes in the shaded area, and the ears. And on the tag, there's a black blob with a line connecting to ghe fur. Erase this, because it shouldn't be there. (I know it's on the lineart, it just needs to be removed). Otherwise, great job! Birchy 10:56, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) IvyHi there!! 11:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Great! There's still that blob on the tag. Any you coloured in the line. Erase them, and this will be great!Birchy 11:16, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes look weird. look at Night shine's tutorial for eyes here Echoheart 11:36, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guysreuploded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:44, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlight on the tail a little bit, then this will be great! M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:29, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'm glad my videos could help :) One thing I'd suggest is blurring the tabby stripes on the head a little more. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:49, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

You still haven't fixed the tag. Where it's golden, there's a black blob. Get rid of that, and coming down from it is a line. Get rid of that, the color there and it should be ready! Also, blur the stripes on the tail, near the end. Birchy 17:03, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The color looks really off. It says that Suzan is a light brown tabby. This looks golden, almost yellow-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:08, January 30, 2010 (UTC) REUPLOADEDsorry but ive been busy!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:28, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The head looks flat. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 12:03, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights more. Other than that this is really good! Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros....  22:22, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Cloudtail (KP) -For Approval
Here's Cloudtail when he was catnapped by the twolegs. Any Comments besides the collar which I forgot to fix? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 15:47, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

O.o Wow, this is great, I don't see anything wroung...-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 15:51, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Minnow. I fixed the collar. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 15:58, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, that's beautiful ^^ I love the detail on the collar. Brightfrost 16:38, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Anything need to be fixed? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:42, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

This lookd great! If I were a Senior Warrior or up, I'd say CBA. But, I'm only an Apprentice so... Great job! Birchy 17:01, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

(M)- Wodnerful! just shade the collar tag some more and then he should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:23, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reloaded. '''Thanks Birchy and Moss. Anything else? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:53, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Great! I don't see any problems! Fawnstorm 13:22, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Agian, I see nothing. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 15:07, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Comments Before Approval? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:19, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Mistyfoot (Ki)- for approval
This is my first Charart, I hope it's okay :3 I think I might need to fix the shading on the head, it looks a bit square. But yeah. :) I think it went quite well for a first one :D Brightfrost 16:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Not bad. Darken her pelt color some so it matches her other images and blur the shading some. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:44, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... any better? I found it quite hard to darken her. Brightfrost 16:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

On the right side of the body, blur the shading some more. The part near the highlight. Blur the top of the head, and the left paw. It's really good though! Birchy 16:59, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Brilliant! But maybe blur the flank. :P Mistyheart 17:12, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too light. Make it darker and slightly more reddish. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:13, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, any better? I fixed the ears. Brightfrost 18:28, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot more, especially on her head-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:07, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, but I don't think that the blurring has made a difference, you can't really tell. And can't get the head any blurred without blurring the lineart around it. :/

I think it worked really well. Her head dosen't look that 'square' anymore! Sorry I couldn't rate before! 94.10.41.117 09:44, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I hope she gets approved :D Congrats on Jaykit! Brightfrost 14:29, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Um... well... No, I got nothin'. I think this is ready now.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 15:05, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yay! :D Thanks. 78.150.124.66 15:58, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you blurred the lineart on the head. After you fix that I think it'll be ready. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:17, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, I'll try that now. Brightfrost 16:43, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Fixed the lineart. Is there anything else? Brightfrost 17:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

There's a little white pixel on her right paw (Or our left) fill that in with gray-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, fixed the paw ^^ Brightfrost 19:02, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else I need to add? I'd like to get Mistykit approved so I can post Goldenflower, she's ready. :3 Brightfrost 19:02, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes look a bit strange. Look at User:Icethroat21/Tutorials to see how to do the eye-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:45, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes on her were copied off that tutorial, there's nothing I can do to change them... they look like any other kit's. Brightfrost 20:58, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Russetfur (R)- For Approval
I don't think anyone had her reserved, but if someone did, tell me. Well, here's one of my favorite ShadowClan cats, comments? ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  18:34, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really see the ear pink. 1) Make it bigger. 2) Make it darker. Nice work! Birchy 18:43, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! I think the ear pink is fine. Blur the tail shading a bit more.--  Night shine   ★  20:03, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  22:06, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred. Anything else I need to change? Or tweak? I love the word tweak. It's cool. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  22:38, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, she looks good to me. CBA? Dark hallows 07:36, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear pink a little pinker. And what is CBA?-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 15:03, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

It means Comments Before Approval. ;) And the ear pink looks fine to me. But it's your descion. ♥Ice♥  ♥storm♥  16:30, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I got the color from her deputy image. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  16:41, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks fine. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Leopardstar (D) - For Approval
Constructments? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:31, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! Maybe add a spot on her right ear and make the muzzle lighter?--  Night shine   ★  20:42, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a tad and blur it. She's amazing, Sandy! ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  20:43, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:08, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's perfect :)--  Night shine   ★  22:19, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is almost ready, just blur the stripes on her midriff-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:32, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuloaded. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  10:04, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

try making the stripes a little strater.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 15:01, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Might not be necessary, but the area below her ears and above her tabby stripes looks a little bare, maybe add one more spot or stripe there? This is amazing though! <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:24, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:29, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I really don't see anything else. Amazing job, Sandy, as usual. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  21:44, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I agree :) Comments Before Approval?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Leopardstar (W) ~ For Approval


Bad News; My Activity = Epic Fail 5725. :( Good News; I have finished the whole warriors series! *cough*For now...*cough* To celebrate the good news, here's Leopardstar as a warrior. ^-^ Deisel is on my flash drive at school, so I have to put him on some other time. Read over the guidelines again to refresh my memory, and am I allowed to have one or two images up at a time? Anywho, Comments?  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 21:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Only one at a time. This is great! The eye looks funny because I always do it the way from Icethroat's tutorial. Make the ear pink darker.--  Night shine   ★  21:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

One at a time. My only problem with this is that it doesn't look much like ... ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:55, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

That's true. It looks kind of neon-ish--  Night shine   ★  21:56, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, try darkening the highlights a tad more. Make the spots more of a reddish brown, and put some tabby stripes on her side-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:05, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. I'm not much of a copyer. I'll see what I can do.  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 14:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I made it as much like her as possible, basically redoing everything except the eye and ear-pink. Anything else?  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 14:44, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Make her more golden. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 14:49, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Make her eyes more golden and make her ear pink redder. Trust me, doing leopardstar is sooooooo confusing, but it works eventualy. I had to come up with ten different trys before I got one to put up and it was bad >P. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:59, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, she's too... brown, and not gold, run the dodge brush over her?-- Dark hallows 21:14, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw (Ki)- For approval
Yay, my first character art was approved! ^^ Now here's Brambleclaw! *Huggles Bramblekit* §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood.

He looks greenish. Make him more brown. And Blur the tabby stripes. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 13:34, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded This time I got the colors directly from his deputy image. §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood.

Much better! Darken the shading and earpink a touch and this will be good. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 13:57, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood.

Now the ear pink is a little too dark and you've lost it in the pelt. Don't lighten it, but make it a dark redish color. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood.

Graystripe (KP) - For Approval
Here's Graystripe. Comments? -- Rain whisker 567 14:23, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Nice work. But on the tag, there's a blob of black, with a line connecting to the fur. Delete this, as it shouldn't be here. (It's the lineart, I know, but it needs to be fixed. These need to be removed from all linearts.) Darken the stripe along his back. Good job!Birchy 14:25, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and the stripe on his back.Then maybe make the tuff on his head the same color as his stripe to show it coming over his head. Then do what Birchy said the this should be good. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:51, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

To Birchy, I fixed the lineart the other day, so it shouldn't be a problem after this one. And to Blackclaw, really good, just thin his back stripe and darken it a little more. 15:23, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, do all that. But the stripe needs to come over his head. See his warrior image - Graystripe-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Firestar (D) - For Approval
For some reason this image looks really bad to me =/ My first ginger cat. I took the colors from his kittypet image which it why it looks a little different from his leader image. Anyway... Comments? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe take the colours from his leader image? Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 15:26, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Try what mapple said or darken him a bit.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:10, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded made it a little redder, is it okay now? I can't make it much redder without having to completely redo it... and since his Kittypet image got approved and I used colors from that, I would have thought it'd be okay... <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  16:26, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Add a few more tabby stripes ansd it should be good. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 17:01, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, darkened the existing stripes a tad and added a couple more small ones. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  17:06, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Can you darken the stripes more? I can't see it very well. Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros....  17:29, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, darkened the stripes more. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  17:35, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should add more highlights--  Night shine   ★  19:13, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded accentuated the highlights more; the reason they got dulled was because I put a semi-transparent layer of red over the original pic to make it redder, which covered up the highlights... but I fixed it so they show more. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:18, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

This is really great. I see nothing. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:25, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Me neither! Comments Before Approval?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:00, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Speckletail(W) - For Approval
Here is the last picture of Speckletail! --  Night shine   ★  18:24, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good Nighty! But blur the tabby stripes more. Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 18:27, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the tabby stripes, and the ear pink towards the top looks, weird to me. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  18:53, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re-UploadedI blurred the stripes--  Night shine   ★  18:57, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Really beautiful Nighty! All I see is maybe make the ear a little more pinkish, or it could just be me. Hidden -Valentine ღ  19:28, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think the color is ok but it's shaped kinda funny. Maybe blur the top some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:57, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I redid the ear pink--  Night shine   ★  20:19, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Nice job! It looks fine to me. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  00:25, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the top of the ear pink. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 22:46, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Cody (KP)- For Approval
I should put up Spiderkit, but I like her a little better xD. Dark hallows 21:09, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

She's beautiful, Darkhallows! I only see a few small things. One, the collar tag is... blue? Maybe it should be gold or silver? Also, maybe thin out the tabby stripe down her spine, it looks a bit thick to me, but if other people don't think it's too thick then it's okay. :) This is amazing though!!! <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:11, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Oh, nice texture on the stripes! And you did a mackerel tabby! *purrs* The only thing I see is that there's a bit on white on our left side of her cheek. (Her right side.) And the blue tag. This is great though. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:14, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I hadn't seen Moss's comment, hold on a sec. Dark hallows 21:22, January 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Done, added a new stripe, too. Dark hallows 21:27, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Her left ear isn't supposed to have ear pink on it.--  Night shine   ★  21:47, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I love her! But the sripe on her back should probably be a little bit lighter. Not very much, just a little Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:41, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The backstripe is the same color as the other stripes? Dark hallows 04:41, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

beutiful!!i'm glad you did it instead of me,shady!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:29, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry Shady! I was on a not so great computer. No that I'm on my laptop, it looks fine :) Sorry for the confusion  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 18:18, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Violet (KP) For Approval
Here's Violet! I'm not extremely proud of her stripes, but they could be worse. Comments?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:40, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more red and darken it. The stripes are great!--  Night shine   ★  21:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Some of the stripes look a bit too blurred it. Wetty What do you mean they only had 31 flavors?! 21:58, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Nightshine! Is the ear pink better? And I'm not sure what you mean about the stripes Westream-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:38, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Like they're a bit to like out there and weirdish. -- Wetty What do you mean they only had 31 flavors?! 22:41, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, I'm still not sure what you mean. That doesn't make sense-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:53, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think that they mean some of the stripes are not as clear as some other ones. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 23:25, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Is this any better?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:38, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar (R) - For Approval
I hate this guy so much, but someone had to do him... Constructments? -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  22:42, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I really like how his tail looks like a foot. anyway all I can say is that on his leader version his stripes arent furry like you have. I'm not sure if it matters tho. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:50, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

While a rogue his fur probably would have been messier anyway so I think it's okay. The only thing I can see is that I think the ear pink was blurred too much, as I now can barely see it, try drawing it again and then blurring again, but if it's still barely visible then make it a brighter color. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 12:45, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Lightened the ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  20:53, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Right where the tail connects with the body at the top, there is a spot that looks flat. Add some shading there, and this should be good :)-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:44, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Added shading -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  22:50, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Snowdrop- for approval
Since one of the sections is a discussion i guess it is okay to post. This is my first kittypet Angel  Paw  01:37, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

You're going to need to change the eye color Icecloud. It clearly states she has green eyes. But this is very good! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:40, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Angel Paw  01:45, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yep :) Darken the shading, and add some the the head  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:50, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Another Issue I Want to Bring Up...
Last time a new book was out people were reserving characters when the browse inside came out. I was a little upset, I don't read the browse inside things :/. I don't like spoilers. I was just thinking, maybe we should wait untill the book is released? If not, that's alright, I'll just read the alligiences. But... would someone notify me when it's out? WW crashs my internet. Dark hallows 06:08, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

It comes out March 24. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 11:36, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Shady. People should not be reserving characters in a book that hasn't even come out yet. Should we take all those reservations down? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 17:39, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with this. I don't make Charcats, but, it's not fair to the rest of the people here. ‡ ♥ Clóüdskÿε™ ♥ ‡ 18:15, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. No current project for cats from books that have not been released please. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  18:32, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Also, (this isn't excatly related) I've noticed some users have Sharpclaw's reserved. We have the Sharpclaw blanks up for approval, but that's not really fair either.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:42, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. No unreleased cats or cats we don't have approved blanks for please. There are plenty more to choose from. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:44, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with all said above. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 22:47, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Honeyfern (A)
This is Honeyfern as an apprentice, please don't put up for deleation! I've already had enough stress today! Just give me some tips! Silverthistle 21:14, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty good for a first time, but could you make it a little more golden like her warrior image? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:16, February 1, 2010 (UTC)