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Cats of the Park Blanks ~ For Approval
They're so icky omgggg please rename them for me if I named them wrong? I'm no good at lineart

I'll fill them in and fix the longhair's leg in the next upload. ;-;

I suggest looking at the other blanks, you might pick up some good points. Maybe try drawing lines that helps show the muzzle, sorta like the cave-guard or leader. Just keep trying until it seems right. 06:13, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Round the tips of the ears and maybe make the eyes a little bit smaller. 07:18 Fri Aug 21

IDK but the (our) left leg on the short haired blank looks a bit too thin on it's staring point? (My vocabulary omg ;;) I think you get what I mean? 08:44, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

The muzzle looks a bit small. Try enlarging it? 09:06, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups I tried... The eyes looked like aliens >.> still very icky ._.

Maybe make the edge of the eyes a /little/ sharper? 11:26, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make the lines thinner? 13:19, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you enlarge the muzzle? 13:25, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

The lines don't need to be thinner, Burnt. They match the thickness on some of the blanks we have, and it's honestly fine.

Largen the eyes?  ~ Silver Cloud ~  16:25, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know, I think the lines should be thinner. Anyways can you space out the eyes a little? They look too close together. But you did an awesome job! 18:07, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

There's a couple of white pixels on the long-haired's left ear. Songheart (talk) 18:15, August 21, 2015 (UTC)Songheart

The eyes should have thicker lineart, and the eyes should be further apart and follow the curve of the face more. The chin should be more noticable as well. Nubface (talk) 18:33, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

The face is bent downwards at an angle. Right now, the eyes are facing forward with the same perception. If the muzzle where to be there, the eye on our left would have to be angled a bit differently, to make way for the shape of the muzzle. if that didn't make sense i'll try to explain it better 20:15 Fri Aug 21

Will this get declined if I'm gone for a week...? Because I'm going to my friend's house for a couple days.

No. A week without uploads on blanks is not fair. Blanks are a much different process than a normal image- I don't remember the timeframe we decided on, but if you don't upload for a week, you won't lose your blanks. I think we ended up picking two weeks...or something like that. Regardless, working on blanks is a very long process and there's no need to hold you to the same requirements as a normal image. It just wouldn't be fair, flat out.

Forgot to mention earlier, but the tail should be moved down a bit, especially on the shorthair. The tails rests on the ground and tends to curl around their front paws. Nubface (talk) 20:46, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't a little bit of the hindpaw be visible somewhat through the tail? 13:40, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Do you think this lineart is a little... Too big? Not gonna be rude. --ShellaxySpaniel (talk) 05:10, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

The size is fine tbh. There are other blanks the same size/bigger. Also, if you were talking about the lineart itself, the thickness of the lines is fine as there are other blanks with the same thickness of lines. 21:01, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

I think the lineart could be just a touch smaller and the lineart just a touch thinner, but that's just me. Also, the angle of the face looks a little off - it looks like, from the position of the cat, the head is titled a bit downward, but the face seems tilted too much upward. Also, the tail is a little too high up on the shorthair, it should be even with the front paws, at least at the base, since that's where it would connect to the back. May I offer a redline to help with anatomy and such? If not, that's cool, just offering. ^^ Jayie  Unwritten words~ 21:51, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Here's a friendly nudge to not forget to upload!

I honestly think the blanks should be scaled down slightly to match the sizes of our other blanks, because as it stands right now, they are the largest. The anatomy seems to be that of a kitten? I think that the rounded paws and round face shape give this appearance, if you go with slightly more defined shapes, it should help give more of an adult cat appearance. The long furred's fur seems to be a bit spiky, do you think you could lay it flatter to the body and have it follow the direction of the body as best as you can? And it might just be me, but the perspective at which the front of the cat is versus where the butt sits seems kind of off to me and looks kind of painful for the cat's spine. Do you think you could scooch the cat's hindquaters closer to the body? I'm not an anatomy expert, and some of my advice could be wrong, and in that instance, I may be disproven and I'm fine with that, but that's personally how I would draw the blanks if I were doing them myself. I hope I helped at all. 04:04, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups Now here's a thing, I was told to enlarge them (my original ones were way smaller) and the entire cat went crooked because I tried to redraw it. Pixelizing/scaling is a little too hard for me, or I could've been doing it wrong, and in that case can someone tell me how to do it? @Ivy, I tried my best for the fur... I kinda screwed it up. When I first drew the blank I copied exactly from an actual cat photo, so I'd like to get a second opinion on the hind legs. I lowered the short-haired tail, and I moved the eyes of both blanks down and a little more separated from each other. I hope I covered everyone I could, but if I missed something please tell me!

Could you still sharpen the eyes a little? 09:37, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Did you make the fur a little less spikey? --&#123;&#123;SUBST:Nosubst&#124;User:Russettail13/Sig&#125;&#125;. (talk) 13:27, August 29, 2015 (UTC)Russet

The fur seems fine to me - its long-furred anyways, if you're talking about the long haired blank. I hate to be pushy again, but could you maybe thin out the lines again? They just seem really thick, and I know I'm being picky for a blank with only 2 characters but... yeah. 15:09, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Can you add whiskers? Also, try making the muzzle a little rounder. Look at the other charart images for help. I think adding little lines in between the eyes and nose helps too. 22:23, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

I think that their eyes and nose need to be moved so it looks like they're looking down. Like these: http://i.imgur.com/Z8NJeuj.png http://i.imgur.com/EkxBgJv.png The muzzle is pointing downwards (well it looks that way to me) so the eyes should point downwards too. — ☆ ＦＩＲＲＥＬ  ★    ❝ ❤ ❞  16:12, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

You didn't largen the eyes.

 ~ Silver Cloud ~  01:37, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

She didn't upload yet. Give her a bit. 01:40, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Echosnout (MC) ~ For Approval
omg yas. 00:04, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

As a RiverClan cat, she needs long fur. Also, blur and lighten the shading a bit. Over all, very nice. 00:21, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

The shading is fine imo. Shading doesn't have to be super light/super blurred if the artist doesn't want it to be like that. 00:34 Tue Sep 1

reups changed to long haired blank (Ill get the waste off the tail) 03:27, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Bluestar. The shading could definitely be blurred a tad. 04:06, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

To be honest, I can't even see the shading. Or it just might be my screen. 04:12, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the head and shoulder region. Great job, Bramble! She's very pretty lol

A lil bit of waste on the tail tip~ 17:22, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

1st. I would say i would of gotten rid of the waste when i uploaded, and second, i think it may be your screen you cant see the shading.. 20:28, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

re-up I didnt see spottehs comment, ill get to that. 20:50, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

+ shading wont seem to blur, suggestions? 20:51, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the back paws a little? 01:30, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Define the earpink a bit? 21:04, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

withdrawing Wiki seems to be blocking me from the real world, so ill be gone for a month or two away from wiki.... 21:46, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

taking over and therefore re-up 13:24, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the white a bit more? IDK, but maybe the herb color should be smoother? Nice job by the way. 21:07, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I'm struggling to see the shading on the black. Maybe lighten the black a tiiinny bit (just a tiny) and define the shading? This is really beautiful! 00:20, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

re-up 01:56, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Squirrelwhisker (W) ~ CBA
Candleflame tabby ftw. I haven't read the book yet, as it's not released where I am, so I might have left out something. 00:08, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

define the shading 00:09, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:23, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

make her darker, please. Nubface (talk) 00:33, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:43, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Is it just me or does she look kind of reddish? 01:39, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I colorpicked from Spikefur. 04:09, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Would you mind defining the light on the legs and tail? She's lovely. 17:21, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks! 17:52, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

do you think her whiskers need to be longer and paler? she's called squirrelwhisker after all, and we did the same thing for featherwhisker. Nubface (talk) 19:58, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Paler, no, as we didn't give Hawkheart graying whiskers when he was described with them. As for leangthening them, I'm not sure, as we don't know for sure that she was named after them. 21:18, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

did it say featherwhisker was named asfter his? if it did ill drop it, my mind is just fried rn. Nubface (talk) 22:44, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I actually think since her name is Squirrelwhisker, it's a good idea to tweak her whiskers. It's significant enough to actually warrant a special mention- graying whiskers is a normal part of a cat's life, but I've never heard of a cat with pale whiskers like that.

Reuploaded. 02:26, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

maybe make them a bit greyer/browner,t they look a little odd being so bright. Nubface (talk) 21:03, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:42, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

curve the whiskers they look spikey Belllastar (talk) 00:47, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:13, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

CBA?

A little short mabey they shouldent reach his chest Belllastar (talk) 21:48, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

The whiskers are fine. Storm  &#9835;  21:50, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

The CBA will continue- I've seen cats have some pretty dang long whiskers. o.O

Gorsefoot (D) - For Approval
Eek 00:20, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

So pretty :D Could you define the ear pink? 04:10, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

The shading on his haunch and neck look kinda purplish, do you mind fixing that? 04:13, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

The whole looks like a layer of slight purple shading. Fix? And like Burnt said, define the earpink a tad? ~Spottehwobble

It's a shading tint, and it's a perfectly acceptable coloring. =/

Re-upped Yep, it's tinted purplish-blue, so I shifted it slightly more towards the blue side. I also defined the earpink. 01:28, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the head? 01:11, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 20:39, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Can you smudge/blur the pale parts? It's looking hard-edged. This is beautiful by the way. 00:27, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Harepounce (W) ~ For Approval
When I first made it I rushed so it looks like poo. I'm sorry. ;-; ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 00:31, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the haunch and neck :) 01:24 Tue Sep 1

Lighten the shading all together. 04:14, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Redone-ish by the former Skiddleybopblitz! Ech. I forgot to lighten. 22:13:55 1 Sep 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs? 00:48, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to sound stupid, but all of them or just X amount of them? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 01:31, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Would you mind defining it on all the legs? 20:25, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

And perhaps lighten the front legs? The legs themselves are a significantly darker brown than the other. I understand it's shading, but when you incorporate the comments above, it should look better. 21:04 Wed Sep 2

Reuploaded Posting this before bed so I may have 1,000% more errors than usual. If I forgot my signature then aw crap. -- ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 03:13, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the face and legs. 11:16, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Violet Dawn (Ro) ~ CBA
Pretty kitty! :3 00:46, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten her a bit as her black ears are distinctive. Dewsplash, 00:48, September, 1,2015

Agreed with Dewsplash. If her base is dark gray, please lighten it a couple ticks. I can't make it out from the black, and since it's something that's mentioned as much as it is... it should probably stand out.

I darkened the black hairs to 100% opacity. If she's dark gray, then she should stay dark gray, as if I lighten her anymore, she'll be stormy-gray 01:11, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

It did say she was stormy gray at one point --Dewsplash (talk) 01:13, September 1, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash 10:14, September, 1, 2015

Dew is correct.. Her shade of gray is like the color of storm clouds (I took notes of a lot of the descriptions when I was reading the leaked version), so please change it. Lightening it a little bit will not change the fact that she is storm gray.

Reups 01:18, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

her paws shouldnt be entirely black, they should only have black around the edges. Nubface (talk) 06:21, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

This still seems too dark... Dark gray doesn't have to be this dark. If she's stormy and has been said to have black body parts, then they should stand out. Gray Wing is a dark gray cat too and he's nowhere as dark as this is. And yes, the black shouldn't be entirely black so shading and lineart is still there.

Hey now. I used pure black on Littlestep, and you can still see the lineart just fine. I also think she's a good shade of dark gray... Have you seen some storm clouds??? They can look almost black themselves.

Yea, but I literally need to stick my face into the screen to tell the difference between the gray and black...

Then I think you need to tweak your color calibrations, because she's not going to still be dark gray if she lightens it anymore. Her shading is also placed in ways that do make it look darker, but the base itself is actually fairly light.

The paws aren't entirely black, I used like five lines of black on them, if they were pure black I'd have used the whole pen tool 13:30, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

they still look entirely black, and it needs to be changed. Nubface (talk) 18:28, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I think the main pelt base could stand to be lightened - I can see her black paws, but just barely, and I can only just tell the ears are darker. Where's your light source coming from? Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:44, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 21:28, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you lighten her pelt color a little more? I'm having a really hard time seeing the paws and the ears - I need to zoom in the screen to see. 03:52, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's fine. If she lightens it, it's hardly going to be dark stormy gray. =\

CBA?

Fallowsong (Q) ~ For Approval
BCPrincess73 (talk) 00:52, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere and the earpink? This is beautiful. :) ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 00:57, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

This may seem stupid, but I'm new. What does define mean? BCPrincess73 (talk) 00:58, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry, it's not stupid :). Define means to make more visible. Also, I kinda goofed and said define instead of something else for earpink. Smudge/blur it (the earpink) more? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 01:05, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded BCPrincess73 (talk) 01:10, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading, please. 01:11, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's that? BCPrincess73 (talk) 01:14, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the back shading a bit more? Pretty! 01:23 Tue Sep 1

Reups BCPrincess73 (talk) 01:26, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Add shading to the stomach maybe? I'll promote you into an apprentice afterwards 01:44, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups BCPrincess73 (talk) 01:50, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you blur the belly shading a bit more? 01:56, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to promote you into an apprentice, as you know what you're doing. 01:57, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Thanks, Fox BCPrincess73 (talk) 02:00, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading more? 03:09, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups BCPrincess73 (talk) 03:21, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and legs. 04:09, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded BCPrincess73 (talk) 04:54, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

There should be shading going down the side of the back leg on the far left (our left), the one that's lifted. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:46, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups BCPrincess73 (talk) 21:44, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

(correct me if I am wrong) [I think] I see waste around the edge of the tail. Sorry if I am wrong...

I don't think so. I opened in up in my image editor and zoomed in, and I don't see anything. If someone else sees it too I'll try and fix it. 13:55, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Drizzle (Ki) ~ CBA
Heyyyyy who's back bruhbs Storm  &#9835;  01:07, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Brighten the white a lot on the main body- I can't even tell it's white.

Reups Storm  &#9835;  01:15, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Still can't tell it's white, imo. Are you using an off-white or pure white? Also, if you're shading using one layer, I highly suggest using a different layer altogether for your white and grays.

Pure white. I use multiple layers. I don't use the same layer for any color. I cannot brighten it further without it looking too bright and out of place. Storm &#9835;  01:20, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you please try? 01:24, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I did. Which is why I said the above comment. Storm &#9835;  01:32, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

But I am completely unable to tell that it's white, and that's the problem. Brightening up the white will not make it look out of place- I have done that on many different images, as have almost every user in the project. I can almost promise that someone's going to try and nominate this image in the future, given how adamant people are about white (ie; Sweetpaw)

Storm, can you please try and then upload it? 01:35, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups This is as bright as i can get it without it looking like neon even though it kinda does now >.> Storm  &#9835;  01:43, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

So pretty :O Define the back paw light? 04:08, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Since that paw is underneath the cat there wouldn't be a lot of light there, so I think it's fine as it is. As for the white, have you got any highlights? If not, try it. It really does still look pale grey/silver, and there are definitely ways to fix it. 11:49 Tue Sep 1

Actually though, I was told that paw was sticking out, and also told to define the light there before... But yeah just figured i'd give my two cents here =P 11:57, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I can see the white just fine. I think it's just the shading and texture. 13:32, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I think the problem with the white is shading, like Winter said. It's fine on the right (our right) side of the kit, but the white patches on the left should have a little less shading, or at least have the shading recede enough to see some white, if that makes sense. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:48, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you try and explain it better to me, I'm having a hard time understanding ^^; Storm  &#9835;  00:55, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe add some highlights, that would help. 02:26, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I have five layers of highlights ;; Storm  &#9835;  12:51, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Then you'll need to add more. Given that multiple people have asked and provided suggestions, it's in your best interest to do what's suggested.

My computer monitor was the problem It was running a different color scheme. I fixed it. Also, my throat hurts something terrible ;; Storm  &#9835;  01:16, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

There we go! That looks amazing! stupid computers lmao CBA?

Volestar (L) - For Approval
ahh this reminds me of the crookedstar's promise release date :') 01:22 Tue Sep 1

Define the shading everywhere, I can't see any shading. Storm &#9835;  01:23, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, define the shading all over, and smooth the earpink. ~Spottehwobble (you did alot better than I could've done lol)

Spotted, please do not repeat comments. Also, the ear pink looks fine as it is- I don't get how you'd "smooth the earpink" anyways.

reuploaded, i also lightened the base color a bit, to see if that helps. 23:54 Tue Sep 1

I think since your lightsource seems to be coming from the upwards ==> direction, the shading on the tail should be on the bottom side, and not on the top as it is now 00:50, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded. 22:57 Thu Sep 3

This might be a little picky, but the light on the haunch seems to be coming directly from the --->, while the main shading is coming from a little above that. 02:12, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

can you define the shading on the haunch and face just a bit more? i love his pattern. Nubface (talk) 18:44, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

can you possibly darken the shading just about ten more ticks? It's hard to see still Storm  &#9835;  01:18, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Daisytoe (Q) - For Approval
Hi, before you yell at me about "uneralistic pelt pattern", on my way from Disney's Art of Animation resort on the Disney Cruise Line bus thingy, there are little TV's in which they show you little clips and stuff. So one of those clips had a group of 8 cats - half of them black and white, half gray and white with the same exact pattern as this, taking pictures with mickey mouse. The reason for this is because their pelt was mickey mouse patterened, and it wasn't shaved like that, they were born like that. So that's what I'm basing it off of. If it happens to 8 cats, maybe it can happen to Daisytoe. 01:24, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you at least try to have a little bit more...variation for the patterns? Maybe have them facing upside down? Some facing sideways? Some up? Not just the same pattern literally repeated going up the cat, that's not possible. 01:30, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs. 01:33, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere and add depth. Storm &#9835;  01:44, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Winterflurry, I apologize for that, I don't remember the thing exactly, but yeah, I'll get on it. Please forgive me if I don't upload it tomorrow though. 02:42, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Could you get the pattern to flow with the body a bit more? They seem to be directly pasted on top of her. 04:08, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you smudge the mice so they look a tiiny more realistic? Keep in mind this is a website for new readers to see... I'm not trying to be mean but if I see a pattern like this back when this wiki was just a resource site I would've freaked out.

they dont need to be smudged. just less uniform looking. Nubface (talk) 08:08, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the pattern (splotches) and add shading/depth to the torso. I LURV the pattern lmao ~Spottehwobble

The problem with the pattern is that it looks like the Mickey heads are all lying on a flat sheet of paper, not on a cat with many rounded surfaces. Even if you don't vary the position, size, and rotation of the patches, which you should, at least try to make them fit hte countours of the cat's body. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:49, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: How's this? I think I may have botched it up. 21:56, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe blur/smudge the markings a little more BCPrincess73 (talk) 22:29, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the head shading, if there is any. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 23:02, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Per what PCPrincess said, I believe if you smudged the markings with the brush on 1.00, it would give the illusion of 'fur' and make the pattern flow a lot more. Not required, just a suggestion. Darken the shading on her back left leg, and blur the shading on her right haunch. 23:45 Tue Sep 1

Re-uploaded: I blurred the stripes, fixed the shading and added head shading. (I forgot that oops) 00:27, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading a little bit. 01:35, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 01:39, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

i think with this source the face shading should be on the other side, also defined, and define the shading on all her legs. Nubface (talk) 19:27, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 20:45, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, so someone's gonna tell me to add some shading on the face, but can you guys tell me where? With my light source, I don't really know where the right place is to add it, so if you guys could help me with that I'd love you forever.

On <== this side of the face, but I think you got that covered. Storm &#9835;  00:56, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Since that wasn't really a comment for her to fix.. CBA?

Ok I'm sure you won't be happy about this comment, but I'm sorry, I'm posting anyways. Assuming you really did see cats with markings like this, which I cant find any evidence of whatsever elsewhere, it is still a mutatiom regardless. You know what another mutation in cats is? Having four ears. And another one? Having flaps of skin that bear a striking resemblence to wings. Another? Werewolf look-a-like cats. And there are loads of pictures and records of all these mutations. Should they be allowed too? And sure, you can go using the excuse that warriors isn't realistic, and throw examples like Blackstar and Spottedpaw around, but the fact of the matter is they were described in canon with those descriptions. As far as I'm aware, Daisytoe was never described as being unusual in any way. If she was, that'd be a different matter, but she wasn't. I'm not saying you have to go use a 100% realistic pattern, though it would be preferable, I'm pretty sure pca doesn't doesn't have incredibly strict standards on that. But it should look at least plausible. Right now the pattern honestly looks like it was made as a joke. And chances are, that's what any non-pca viewers that see it will believe. That it's a joke image. It looks like someone just popped the image in photoshop and went crazy with the basic round brush. It looks extremely unrealistic. If you are completely set on having mickey mouse markings, make most of the pattern realistic, with like one or two odd markings. That happens plenty of the time with shapes like hearts, without mutations, just coincidence how the white markings formed in those spots. But having them all over the body, if it even actually happened, would be a mutation, no question. And honestly, it sounds like a less plausible mutation than four-eared cats. Please please at least make an attempt to make it look more realistic. And of you do leave any mickey mouse markings at all, please make them follow the body more. They wouldn't be perfect circles, the body curves, and fur causes streaks.

Rainfur (TC) (W) ~ For Approval
01:54, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

omg love this, but mabey lighten the shading on the tail Belllastar (talk) 02:39, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 02:57, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, especially on the neck and haunch? 03:23, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

reups Shading was being stupid so I redid it. 22:33, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

lighten shading Belllastar (talk) 00:43, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I think the shading is fine imo. Maybe blur the shading a bit more overall? 00:51, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

reups I smudge my shading, not blur it, so I did that instead. That's the most I can do without it looking strange, though 01:19, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Belllastar, you should lighten the shading a tad. Also, I see a shadow on the front leg closest to us that seems out of place to me. 01:28, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I think the shading darkness is ok, maybe smudge it on the main body just a tad more? 01:37, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reups I went ahead and lightened it some. But again, I can't smudge it more without it looking strange, sorry V_V I tried, but it's being stubborn. I'll try some more later, maybe. 07:39, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Can you lighten the shading just a tiiinny bit more? 03:17, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Rabbitleap (TC) (K) ~ For Approval
This is acualy the first submission, '''this is my baby! Belllastar (talk) 02:49, September 1, 2015 (UTC)'''

Maybe make the earpink a little pinker? BCPrincess73 (talk) 03:05, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I changed the title of this, for it's supposed to be "under evaluation" as you are still a kit. Can you define the shading on < side of her body? 03:13, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Add/define neck shading 09:11, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the leg shading. 12:02, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define and/or lighten the eye colour. She looks like she has black eyes. And Belllastar? You did awesome, alot better than me. ~Spottehwobble

Add shading down the right (our right) edge of both front legs, and the tail shading should be on the other side of the tail, if the light is coming from the left. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:51, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups Belllastar (talk) 00:04, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front legs? 00:52, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail, and define the light on the little back paw. There should be at least a bit of light there. Also define the shading under the chin on the neck. 00:53, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I still don't see any shading on the right side of the right front leg. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:16, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

and maybe darken the underbelly (area between the two front legs) a tad. 21:02 Wed Sep 2

You'll need to ask someone to rename this to File:Rabbitleap (TC).kit.png. 09:27 Thu Sep 3

I renamed this for you. From now on, you'll need to upload over the filename Berry gave you.

You know what you are doing, i'll promote you into an apprentice. 02:39, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Chiveclaw (MC) ~ CBA
this is literally the first original mc ive ever done. ive been on this wiki for 3 years. anyways im not entiely happy with this so i'll probably end up playing around with it a lot between now and the next couple of days,, 03:00 Tue Sep 1

Did you forget to color in the leaves? 03:18, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Uh, the leaves /are/ coloured in. But would you mind defining the light on the tail? 04:07, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

define the shading on the front legs and herbs. Nubface (talk) 20:00, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

This is beautiful. :) Define the shading on the neck and the side of the face? Jayie  Unwritten words~ 20:52, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Amazing! The earpink looks kinda like ear fur, could you fix that? 21:13, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

The ear pink looks fine to me, I think it's just the fur smudged into the ear that makes it look like it. Maybe just make it a touch pinker? Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:14, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Is it possible you could define the shading on the farthest hindleg and the front left leg? What Do You Mean?

I can see those just fine. Storm &#9835;  00:57, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded as requested by Berry.

CBA? 04:49, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Beetle (Ro) - CBA
okay 04:04, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

is it just me or does he look a liiiiiitle ginger? 04:18, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Just you jk. I played around with the texture. 04:39, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading ''everywhere. ''Great job. ~Spottehwobble

Re-uploaded Thank you! Shading on this color and the rogue blank is a pain. 12:17, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

This looks great. :) The shading seems to be leaking away from the line of the back leg, can you fix that? Jayie  Unwritten words~ 20:52, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks! 01:49, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Can you perhaps darken the brown a bit? It's still looking quite ginger. Go possibly towards the more yellow side of the spectrum perhaps? Storm &#9835;  00:58, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 02:38, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

CBA? 00:32, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Flashnose (w) - for approval
ayyy 04:23, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Could you lighten the overall shading a few ticks? 05:30, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

The green/blue tint is sort of throwing off the colour...perhaps try a darker, completely blue colour on multiply or a red tiny. This is really, really nice though... wb legGy 09:23 Tue Sep 1

Define the ear-pink. 21:55, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I played with some redder tones for the shading instead of having the gray-blue color. thx berRy 01:01, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I'm having trouble making out the earpink. Could you define it? 21:16, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

With how the ear is shaped and where my light is coming from, the whole inner ear is in shadow, and I also have tufts of fur over the pink, so I'm a little hesitant to mess with it more to bring out that color. 23:17, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I think it should still be defined. 03:54, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Where did this idea that earpink has to be super defined even come from? I mean it goes back to before I even joined wwiki, but it makes no sense really. On the vast majority of cats, the ear isn't even an especially different color, either due to the fur color being similar, or the amount of fur covering the ear. The earpink on this is significantly more visible than in most photos of real cats, especially ginger ones, so defining it would not be realistic at all.

Earpink should still be visible. And in this case I think it should be defined so I'm asking. However, if you think its fine even with others saying not so then okay. 22:20, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

i do agree that it could be defined a tad. <span style="">23:00 Thu Sep 3

tbh, I agree w/ Paleclaw. Earpink isn't always super visible on cats and it's not even /that/ important regarding to the image quality. the main things that should be focused on are the patterns, shading etc. As long as you can tell there's ear pink it's fine :/ 12:54, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I've been using this kind of as my guide for coloration. Without shading, the earpink and ear area looks the same, but with my angle of light and the shape of the ear, all of my earpink/ear fur is in shadow, so it would be inconsistent if I lightened it further. 17:57, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

But I can't tell there's earpink and thats the problem. 20:02, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

im agreeing with icy. define it, it wont kill you to. HotTeacher69 (talk) 07:54, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I can see the earpink very easily on this, at least on my computer. It's not hard to see at all. However I will say that it's nearly invisible on my phone screen, but then so is the shading on nearly every black cat on here. So it may be your guys' screen? But regardless of that, I still stand by what I said about earpink not needing to be extremely defined. I can't barely see the earpink on these either. Why should it have to be more visible than that on this image? (though it actually already is plenty more visible on my screen, just apparently not all yours)

Exactly- You can barely /see/ the ear pink on most cats, and plus I can see the earpink fine on this one. 08:21, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

i dont care about realism? i really dont, stop trying to force it. and im sticking with it being defined, and thats all im saying on this. i REALLY can barely see it. HotTeacher69 (talk) 08:22, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Realism is not mandatory in PCA. So four of us happen to have the same color calibration issue? I think that's highly unlikely. It's not too hard to just tweak it ever so slightly. Just because it's visible on some, does not mean it's visible on all screens. I also think Leggy should tweak it, even if it's not too much. Just enough so the four of us can make it out from the pelt color.

Houndstar (L) ~ For Approval
first leader! And the name stumps me. 07:31, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make the texture like... more thicker? idk if that's the word. rn it looks kinda like a few lines running down his pelt. 09:10, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Err... I don't really understand what you mean. Second opinion? 09:41, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

The texture (as seen on the white) seems like drawn straight lines rather than actual fur-representing lines. Maybe draw more of the "lines" and smudge/blur them? 10:04, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I think the texture kinda fades out on the lighter parts?? But yeah, I do agree with Burnt on this. Also, texture on the leaders isn't always the easiest thing on the planet.

Blur the brown against the white a little more, and add shading to the left haunch. ~Spottehwobble

I can't really tell what your light source is for this. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:53, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload Is that better or do I need to redo the texture? 08:29, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Are you making your texture kinda "spot-like"?? Or like...small lines? Because that's not texture and just looks like tiny lines. I'm not sure who ever told you that was okay, because it's not...

Blur the earpink some more 12:57, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

tbh the texture is very light, and it would be almost the same image without it. i'm not telling you to remove it, i'm just saying that if you choose to do so, the image would still look fine. Smooth out the shading on the underbelly. <span style="">21:00 Wed Sep 2

Tone down the highlights a bit. 23:47, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload I'll tone down the highlights in the next upload. 01:33, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink more? 02:16, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:46, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

CBA? 01:57, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't think the texture follows the flow of the fur, but mainly on the haunch. It appears to be going <-- to -->, when it should probably be going up and down.. it doesn't match the rest of the texture on the image.

I also zoomed in on the image, and that is not texture. The lines are thick and shouldn't be like that. I'm sorry, but they should be thinner lines, and examples are scattered throughout the wiki on the various images. If you're not sure how to make texture how others have done it, then ask. As your texture is now, it's much too thick and doesn't flow with the fur very well at all. I'm sorry if this is rude, but as I've had comments like this told to me before, I figure that this is what the approval page is for- improvement.

Dawn Mist (Q) ~ CBA
Quite proud of this 07:38, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Could you lighten the shading like, a bit? Juliette's pattern >:) 07:40, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded No way >:O jk 07:46, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Omg you gotta tell me how did you do this >:0000000 Define a little tady tid facial shading and try adding a little bit of shading on her shoulder-ish place?

Re-uploaded Eh it was just layers and layers of texture. 13:03, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the belly shading just a tad? 00:50, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded A few ticks 01:48, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

(Yay, another BlogClan name. :D) The white patches on the neck, face, and tail tip look a little too reddish. I realize that's because of shading, but the shading could be erased a little bit on the edges where the light's coming from, if that makes sense. Jayie Unwritten words~ 14:01, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I lightened it 14:32, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

It still looks too red. Just lighten the left edges of the white patches, or erase the shading there enough to see the white, since that's where the light is coming from. Jayie Unwritten words~ 15:30, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 03:17, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Can you shift the color of the ear pink to a bit more of a pinkish coloring? It looks white.

Re-uploaded Better? 02:15, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Much. CBA?

Doestar (L) ~ CBA
I like her name cuz' i like deer XD 13:57, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

out of note, fawn is a shade similar to #b78770 - it's like a paler shade of reddish brown essentially 14:02, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups Better? 14:07, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I think there's a pixel that escaped the shading on her hind-quarter - she's as lovely as her name! 17:16, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups ^^ 18:53, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Her description has been updated, can you update the image? Just add ragged fur and cream, although I'm not 100% sure about the cream... 08:32, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

i think theres already cream in there, maybe darken the fawn slightly (i know its supposed to be pale rip) so it stands out a bit more? Nubface (talk) 09:06, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups I fail at ragged fur lol 15:41, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

No you don't. Can you lighten the shading on the head? 20:50, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Remove the ragged fur- that was from sickness, and we don't count that. We've never counted that unless they're mentioned with it afterwards or in a different book as well.

Re-ups   13:48, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

I can't tell (my eyes are bad, sorry), but is the tail only cream? I know that's part of her description, but I'm not sure if the image was tweaked or not.

Yeah,it's cream,the shading makes it look darker in some places 13:45, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

CBA? 04:51, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Flower Foot (Ki) ~ For Approval
my first tortie = a cute mess 17:15, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

define the face and tail shading, and blur/whatever the hind paws shadow. Nubface (talk) 20:49, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 17:40, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

It looks like the white is smudged in all sorts of different directions and it makes it look a little odd. Do you mind smoothing that out? 18:12, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 11:14, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Could you smudge the facial shading? Cute <3 00:34, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Nettlebreeze (E) ~ For Approval
Hi. <span style="">0:35 Wed Sep 2

Define the shading on the closest hindleg.

That's the only hind leg, and I think it looks fine. 12:59, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Is there any head shading? If there is, can you define it? 18:11, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Yes there is. <span style="">20:42 Wed Sep 2

Can you lighten the shading all together? 20:49, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Should I lighten it more? <span style="">22:47 Wed Sep 2

Maybe along the back. <span style="">01:25 Thu Sep 3

Re-uploaded. Is this better? <span style="">1:31 Thu Sep 3

Maybe blur/smudge the shading along the back? 02:17, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Dawnfeather (Star) ~ for approval
My hand x.x this took almost 6 hours working between classes and rehearsals. And I realize that she is described as light, but the stripes are only that dark because they got lost in the shading, hence they are set to multiply on a medium opacity. But I am seriously proud of this :3 01:08, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Could you brighten the white and somehow... make the pupil more visible? idk its kinda lost in the shading and I can't see it very well. I love this <3 06:58, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on her left paw. This is stunning! <span style="">20:59 Wed Sep 2

I think the eyes are fine. I absolutely love this. <span style="">22:48 Wed Sep 2

I agree that the eyes should be made more visible. 23:19, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I am unable to upload right now due to issues with the wifi on campus, but even though I'm pretty sure eyes are the artist's choice, because I had more than one person mention them I expanded the pupil by a couple pixels and smoothed the shading. Brightening the white on the other hand...well I can't really explain what happened with that easily. I did have to modify the shading, so please do not tell me to lighten it. When I tried making it lighter it looked flat. 23:41, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

The pupil is still really hard to see. I think it's being lost in the darkness of the eye color in that area and the darkness with the shading. Maybe play around with both? Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:12, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly when I first saw the image I thought it was supposed to be pupiless. You can see the pupil when you look directly at it, but not as well when you're looking at the image as a whole. but it is your choice. <span style="">00:43 Thu Sep 3

I have no been able to upload the change....my wifi has been down for a couple days. I will try again after class. I did fix the eyes though. 13:54, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

reup Is this any better? And the image before this upload was still the original, that's why it looked the same.. 14:38, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Can you lighten the shading on her butt (I am a child for the lack of better words) and --> side of the image? 00:40, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

reup 17:57, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Idk if this is just me but I still can't see the pupils. I think it's because the pupil is placed where the shading is. But yeah, it's up to you if you want to change it, as eye style is artist's choice. 01:56, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Cloudberry (TC) (Medicine) ~ For Approval
I tried. Estimate, please, I want to be useful. I made "fur" light and shade. I took a flattened muzzle at Yellowfang. <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 09:52, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you need to reserve this on the reservation table on the main page first. Everything that gets posted here should be reserved first. Until then, I'll need to decline this image. Feel free to repost (after this has been archived and you've properly reserved the image). If you don't know how to do so, please ask, and one of us will be able to help you. =D

How to make it? <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 10:54, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I make it! <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 11:39, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading? Nice <3 01:55, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Yes :) It is pleasant to you? It is possible to add? <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 08:13, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I made shadows shorter. <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 08:17, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the legs a little bit? I'm glad to see you found out how to reserve the image. =)

Heronwing (TC) (W) ~ For Approval
Meh.

Define the stripes - I can barely see them 15:41, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading as well 17:59, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

stripes dont have to be super defined, as long as you can tell theyre there its fine. but define the earpink just a tad? Nubface (talk) 18:39, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I'm actually having trouble making the stripes out, so a little definition wouldn't hurt.

Splinter (Ro) - For Approval
I love black-and-white cats.

I watched this in action. Can you smudge the patch on his butt a little more? Like the one at the edge of his back but not the tail thingy. The butt patch. I am a child. 05:27, September 5, 2015 (UTC) Can you please define nose pink just a tad? It's looking too paleish white to me. --Dewsplash (talk) 05:29, September 5, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash 05:29, September, 5, 2015

Re-uploaded. Butt patch. Heh. Also, Dew, I actually had forgotten about the nose pink, so thanks for pointing that out.

i keep thinking of splinter from tmnt...but define the shading on the white. HotTeacher69 (talk) 07:18, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Ember (Ro) ~ For Approval
HotTeacher69 (talk) 06:19, September 5, 2015 (UTC)