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Thistleclaw (Ki) ~ Redone
I totally ruined it. >< OA is Nightshine, Redone artist is Ivystripe and tweakers are Ashshadow and me. Tweaked tom match description. Many credit and thanks to Burntclaw for sending in the apprentice file, and that made my life much easier. :) 08:53, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the white 08:56, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

K so I smudged my white patches with a 10 px bristle brush and i did not smudge or blur the texture- i used a paint brush and added dark and light tones to show the light hitting the fur and the shadows to give his fur a "bristling" effect. Nice image, anyway =) 09:09, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Also define the texture on the white please. 09:12, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

why does he have white paws? hes only speicifed white and grey on his face and shoulders. 11:03, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

nvm, cite got found 12:06, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:53, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

He looks like hes still mottled, is that intentional? 22:57, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

That's texture. There is tabby stripes I promise, it's just harder to see because it's a tiny image. 23:01, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the white more please, with a hard edged one px brush 01:52, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload If I have to turn the internet upside down to get a better smudge tool >< 07:21, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Ok I'm going to be that person but I still seriously think you should smudge the white more ;; 13:13, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

The texture on his face isn't texture; it's little triangles that just throw the colour off...also, could you add a bit of depth to the shading? It's looking a bit flat. 13:15 Sat Oct 3

Reupload I'm being careful with the shading as the texture and stripes disappear when it gets too dark, and I'm near the brink. Everyone's fluffing up their Thistleclaw a lot! Do I need to fluff Thistlekit? 20:18, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

His other images appear to have a small bit of black near the eyes- do you mind adding that? The warrior and dark forest images show what I'm insinuating. 21:27, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload Don't tell me to smudge it anymore, cause I did before and it somehow disappeared O.o. 21:49, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

White looks gray on the paws 23:57, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 00:03, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

I still think it looks gray to me, tbh. Try erasing some shading on them 01:01, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload White against dark is a pain >< 05:42, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

i don't know why but the texture makes him look mottled... 07:29, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the two front paws. 20:36, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload I've lowered the opacity of the texture to help see the stripes and smudged them. I completely forgot about the paws so I'll do that in the next upload. 21:01, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make him look more spiky, like on the apprentice and warrior? 01:05, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload spike! spiiiiiiiiike! That's a fun word. 07:30, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

fluff up his left side of the cheek, it looks oddly unbalanced. 11:40, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (W) ~ Redone
oa's include bramble, mintstarr, shelly, silver, and jayce who was awesome enough to give me this and upload for me ;-; 11:06 Fri Oct 2

This should use the old linear art- it wasn't nominated for a linear tweak. Very pretty btw, maybe try erasing a little bit of the texture on the edge of the paws and the face so that it would look less grey. 11:36, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Jayce told me they didn't mind me using new lineart; I'll change it if you want it, but... 12:19 Fri Oct 2

idk but I was told to do it in the past... So... 12:20, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

I literally don't care either way. Given that it's explicitly stated he was named after his spiky fur, I think the more spikyness, the better. I was going to say that on the other images, but the apprentice was archived before I got the chance.

Should I nominate the apprentice? 12:26, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

If you believe it should be, yes. I mean, given that ragged fur can change over time, I don't think you'd need to 30000% match Berry's style, but he could use more spiky fur. Anyways, Berry, could you define the ear pink? I actually didn't think he had any the first time I saw this.

Blur/smudge the shading a bit? 16:04, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

I think the shading is fine, personally. Smooth out that white patch on his cheek, it looks a little too sharp compared to the other patches. Jayie Unwritten words~ 18:30, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

White looks gray on the face 01:01, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

its fine, you can tell its white. 10:05, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded ty jayce 12:56 Tue Oct 6

Mistystar (Ki) ~ Tweaked
Second try, tweaked to define shading

Can you smooth out the shading just a tad? It just looks a little hard-edged. 00:44, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups I did my best

Featherwhisker (Star) ~ Tweaked
OA was Breeze, tweaked for define and redo shading 20:35, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

I know shading darkness is artist's choice, but right now it looks too dark. can you please lighten it, and smooth it out on teh chest area? And define the facial shading and the paws. 17:02, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 17:17, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Still a little too dark. Also the facial shading needs to be defined some moer, and can you blur/smooth that little light spot on his chest? And smooth out the farthest paw? (I absolutely suck at explaining. Someone teach me how to.) 17:22, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

reups? 17:33, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a lot more.

Reups 00:21, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Nettlebreeze (E) ~ Redone
OA is me. Redone to match. I couldn't sum up to Shinx's awesome skills... :( 21:51 Sat Oct 3

I'll add the rheumy eyes and he ragged fur in my next upload. Oops. 21:53 Sat Oct 3

Don't forget the cloudy eyes! :) The colour doesn't seem to match the other images. His a bit orange-r than the others. (Is that even a word? Orange-r?) 22:00, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Did you add the layer of texture? There's a very light one on the apprentice, I'm not sure if you added it or not. This looks gorgeous. :) The color is fine, I think. I sent Hawky the file, the colors will probably be colorpicked fro that. I use highlights on my images, which makes them look a bit brighter. 22:10, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading 01:17, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

The shading's fine. 01:23, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Shinx. I used texture. I made sure you could barely see it, because you can barely see it on the apprentice. 3:03 Sun Oct 4

No, it's really not @Apple. Please smooth it out some more on the legs 03:04, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

In my opinion it is. Literally it looks blurred as it is but if someone else disagrees then I guess. 03:05, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

The shading is fine, tbh. 03:06, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Also I did color pick off of the apprentice .xcf 3:14 Sun Oct 4

Blur the shading on the earpink? This is beautiful. 22:34, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Mist (Lo) ~ Tweaked
OA is DJAngelCandy. Tweaked for flat shading. 00:50, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Could you possibly define the light on the legs? 02:01, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded  17:57, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs farthest from us a bit more pls 19:56, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's that? 15:48, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Tanglewhisker (E) - Tweaked
OA is Hawky with a tweak by Leafstrike.

Birdsong (E) ~ Tweaked
OA's were Canyonsong, Minstarr, and Iveh, tweaked to remove ginger. Thanks again for the file, Iveh! 12:32, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

If possible, could you make her look less green and define the shading? 23:18, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Hopefully this looks better. Redid the shading while still keeping it along the same shading style as Iveh's. Switched the colors around a little bit 00:20, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

She actually seems like a triangular tabby to me... idk 05:21, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

This is not a triangular tabby. A triangular tabby has repeating distinct triangles. This has no triangles. We are not bringing this back again. .-. 05:26 Wed Oct 7
 * For an examples, here is Oatwhisker (WC) before I redid him ages ago. See the repeating, sort of rippling triangles? That is triangular tabby. That is not realistic. Birdsong is fine. 05:29 Wed Oct 7

She looks green, regardless. Also, people can have their own opinion. The image you provided is not triangular, it's just unrealistic. 05:37, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

What was wrong with the opacity of the previous version's stripes? This was nominated to remove the ginger, and Ivy's shading did not need to be redone. It could have been tweaked very easily.

She doesnt look green to me. Tbh i think the color previously looked too green, pelt color and stripes Storm  &#9835;  12:21, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

And besides, she was asked to define the shading, so thats what dhe did Storm  &#9835;  12:26, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Dulled the opacity of the stripes. This is a zigzag tabby I belive?? Nowhere near a triangle tabby. The reason I redid the shading was because imo it was a bit overblurred, so I just redid it while keeping it along the same shading style. 12:32, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

She wasn't nominated for a tweak for the shading though. You shouldn't have touched it. You should change it back...it was totally fine as it was .-. 12:50 Wed Oct 7

Unfortunately I would change it back if I could. Sadly, even with a file, I cannot. And I can't revert it back to the other one and copy that, because I wouldn't have the layers that I need. Fox told me to define the shading. Therefore I did. .-. 12:54, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

reups Fixed a shading leak 12:56, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

You should've kept the original layers then. It's not difficult to hide them in case you were asked to change it back. And if you were asked to define it you define it, you do not redo it. You were never given the permission to do that. 12:58 Wed Oct 7

This is one of my first times I tweaked a charart, can you cut me some slack? It did not occur to me I would probably have had to keep the original layer... Besides my first approved tweak was a redo, so I wouldn't have known anyway. 13:04, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Aspenfall (W) - Tweaked
Ugh. He looks super gray and I will fix that. OA is scarlet. If she wants this I will indeed surrender it. Tweaked to define shading and I also changed the color of the earpink so it would look better with the gray + white patches. 21:40, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

I guess go ahead and add some highlights to fix the gray problem 23:17, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Ugh. 23:26, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Try doubling the highlight layer on an overlay layer mode. It still looks grey. 01:51, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

There's also a white pixel on the ear. I know it's nitpicky, and not necessary, but you can fix it if you want. 03:31 Wed Oct 7

Re-uploaded: is this better? 03:33, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Still looks gray on the haunch 05:20, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Firestar (Star) - Tweaked
OA = me, Raelic, Bbun. 02:35, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Aren't you suppoed to mention all the oa's...? Also, there's this little patch of bright pink in the middle of the ear. Can you fix that? 02:40, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded This tweaked image is the redone image, which is a completely different image from the original and only has one OA. I'm not entirely sure if I got what you meant, but if I didn't feel free to give an indication. 03:21, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

You're supposed to mention everyone, even if you redid it and you're tweaking it. Breezey is technically the OA, and then you redid it.

Gorsetail (P3) (Q) ~ Redone
idk whats shading 05:09, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Make her mottled. Define the shading depth everywhere. 05:19, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

she looks literally pure white tbh 05:32, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

im not darkening it any more....shes very pale grey qand white. its supposed to be hard to see. not to mention mottles will probably make her look darker anyway when i get to them. 05:40, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded theres the mottles. 05:54, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Foxy... It does look pure white. Willowpelt is very pale gray too and she's hardly white at all. Define earpink a tad?

....she's white and pale grey. The white is supposed to be white...?? 09:37 Wed Oct 7

No I mean those under the stripes. Forget what I said, my screen was on a very weird brightness just now so things weren't showing up correctly.

Nvm about my comment about the pure white, just at first glance I thought she was a white pointed tabby. Sorry. 09:55, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

The green shading is kinda throwing off the color, could you fix that? 11:30, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

This honestly looks pure white to me as well. Can you at least define the gray parts? 12:28, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Mistystar (W) ~ Tweaked
Second try.