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Quietkit (Star) - For Approval
First charart. I'm not sure if I did this right. Shypaw11 (talk) 16:48, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, so this is a good job for your first time. This might be a whole wall of text, I apologize in advance.

The major thing would be to match the other image. Here, the chest is a more rounded yellow color with orange splotches. On the other image, the chest is an orangey-brown color kind of in a flash-design, so maybe if you changed the shape and either smudged/blurred (not sure which one) the colour, it would look similar. I'm not sure, but I think you're allowed to colour-pick from the other images. Next, the earpink here is a very neon purple colour, and we don't want that. On the kit image, the earpink is a more reddish colour, so even just colour picking and changing that would work. The other image has texture, which would mean taking a 1px or whatever brush and making small lines that look like fur. And then there are small things, such as the nose colour being pink, and the eyes being a darker blue. You could also define the eye depth (which means the colours in the eye go from light to dark). I hope this wasn't too harsh or long ... great job nonetheless :) 17:06, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can you please explain the texture a bit more? Shypaw11 (talk) 17:49, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Texture is basically adding "fur" to the charart, or adding the effect of fur so it seems like it's not a flat image. It's not required, but since the kit image has texture, it is required for the star image. To add texture, take a 1px (usually the smallest brush size you have) and add small lines to mimic the direction of fur. This is usually done on a different layer (usually a layer above the pelt color and stripes but usually not above the shading). I usually use black or a darker hue than the pelt color for texture, but you can always lower the opacity of it later.

Also, I think the cream belly should stretch all the way to the <-- chest fluff, and down to the underside of the chest where it meets the shoulder. And darken/define your shading. ^^ You're doing a great job so far. 18:15, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Winterpaw and Vec! I defined the shading, added texture, and fixed the chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 18:47, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the earpink some, and expand the chest to fill the spot to the <--, since it doesn't quite fill where it's supposed to be. Also, the color of it looks different than the kit, and a bit too orange. Define the shading, as well.

Reuploaded Defined shading, smoothed ear pink, and lightened and expanded chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 21:42, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the texture a bit, as well as the chest. Also, the chest looks too bright and orange. Try colorpicking from the kit. 22:18, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid shading, texture and stripes. How do you colorpick from a different image? Shypaw11 (talk) 22:38, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened Shading Shypaw11 (talk) 23:12, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what program you use, but to answer your previous question: When color picking another image, download it, open it in your art program, and then use the color-picking tool to grab it's color. On my program, it looks like a dropper, but on others, I'm sure there's a guide somewhere that would show which one it is. Try to pick from the lightest point, not under shading or texture, if you can. Then, you'll have that color saved to use on your image.

Reuploaded Thanks Spooky! I use GIMP, and hopefully this is better. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:08, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink, blur/smudge the shading and smooth out the stripes on the arms and tail.😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:30, March 6, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reuploaded Smudged ear pink, smoothed out stripes, and blurred the shading. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:56, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the image. Shypaw11 (talk) 01:32, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are you colorpicking from the image? The colors look a little off, especially the chest. Connect the lines of the texture. Smudge the chest and earpink some more 01:37, 3/06/2017

There is waste beside and on top of the <- ear. Also, maybe smudge/blur the earpink a bit more, and make it less neon, darker. 01:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The eye looks a bit milky? Or is that just me. .3. 02:40, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:04, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the shading some?

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 20:48, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are those lines on the body texture? Because they look a little. . . strange. Also smudge the ears a bit so it looks like ear fur. I also suggest improving the shading, mostly on the chest. Refer to the apprentice tutorials if you need it, they can be lifesavers! BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 2:59 3/7/17

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:28, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Everything needs to be smoothed out more 23:57, 3/07/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 02:38, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading again, please. 18:29, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink out some, and define the texture under the shading

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 01:31, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The nose pink is a bit too neon, it should be more orangey. Same with the earpink, it should be darker and less bright. :) 17:33, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:34, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

I think there's some waste around the ears and the top of the head. 19:07, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:15, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the lines on the face; they're too blocky. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 22:42 3/12/17 UTC

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 22:57, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Everything still looks like it needs to be smoothed out more 17:31, 3/13/2017

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 23:40, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

There's still some waste around the ears. It's either waste or blurred lineart. 23:47, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:55, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink, and define the shading on the tips of the front paws

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 00:11, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smudge the ear pink some more and define the eye depth. Homosneksual (talk) 00:16, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 00:38, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Theres waste around the head, chest, and tail. Also youre getting there! Ill promote you to an apprentice once i get home. Also smudge the chest a tiny bit more, and perhaps smooth out the shading along the flank more 01:41, 3/15/2017

Reuploaded Thanks! Shypaw11 (talk) 03:27, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the shading some more, and define the shading on the chest area. Maybe recede the earpink a little bit, because it looks like it's creeping onto her head :P 13:37, 3/15/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 22:46, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Define the chest shading, and smooth it out everywhere else some

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:58, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

In your light source, the chest would be all in shading :P close! 00:53, 3/16/2017

Reuploaded :P Shypaw11 (talk) 01:10, March 16, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The shading is leaking away from the lineart on the edges of the chest, and also, smooth the open a little :)

Reuploaded :) Shypaw11 (talk) 00:23, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11(talk)

CBA? wonderful job! 13:13, 3/17/2017

Super sorry to break your CBA, but the shading at the top of the --> shoulder and the flank could be smoothed out a bit more, as they seem pretty sharp and there's not much depth there. Also, the shading is leaking away from the lineart on the <-- side of the belly. To match the kit image, the stripes shouldn't go so far down on the front paws, and at least a few would go all the way across on the tail. Additionally, define the facial markers on the sides of the face to match, and the ones on top should be less squiggly and more straight like the kit's.

Where did the pale chest go? It needs pale parts to match. 14:24 Fri Mar 17

Add more texture. And the texture here has much thicker lines than the other image, I think. Smudge the ear pink. 16:49, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

@Sunjaw, the pale chest in under the shading. 19:15, 3/17/2017


 * It could still be lightened though, as it looks the same as the rest of the pelt. And the shading is leaking on it. 19:23, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

The pale isn't the correct color. It needs to match the kit image. This looks like it is just the base desaturated a little bit, and on the kit it is clearly an orange-brown and not that dark and desaturated. Not trying to be rude, but it really doesn't even match. 22:29 Fri Mar 17

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:28, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The flank and --> leg shading actually seemed to get more sharp with the last upload. Can you smooth it out?

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:44, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Can you smooth it out some more? I can tell the difference, but only just a little..

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 17:09, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the shading on the face, < paw, and the tail some more, and define the shading depth. 18:10, 3/18/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 18:21, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Can you smooth out the shading on the ---> front paw, and the flank and tail? In the last upload, it seemed to get sharper in those spots.

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 18:30, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

If she's a tabby, shouldn't she have stripes on her back too? Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I know the chest is in shading, but it really doesn't match the other image imo. Second opinion? 04:27, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Im having a hard time seeing the light anywhere, define that please. Also it matches just fine. As the stripes are only on the legs, face, and tsil on the kit image. 12:17, 3/19/2017

To me, the image looks a tad dark, or not exaxtly the same color. Ignore me if it looks fine lol. Rainbowmistake (talk) 12:24, March 19, 2017 (UTC)chat

Crap, ignore the image brightness thing, because my phone was not bright enough fml lol 12:48, 3/19/2017

No, there really is something going on with the brightness/colors. I've looked on 3 different screens on max brightness and it looks off. A few things. The stripes look like they fade off instead of going all the way down to match the kit on the legs/tail. The chest still looks like it is just a desaturated version of the base, so either your base is off or you still haven't gotten the right color for the chest. Make sure you are color picking from the lightest areas on the kit, as it looks like you have been pulling the colors from either a shaded area or the texture. There also really should be light on the chest no matter which side the light is coming from... 15:41 Sun Mar 19

Reuploaded I use the Burn tool for my shading, so of course it's going to look dark. I lightened it anyway, though. --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:44, March 19, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The pale chest still needs definition; I can't see it and it doesn't match the kit's, either. 01:35, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I colorpicked from the kit so it matches. It's going to look dark because of the shading, though. And sorry if I was rude, Sunjaw. --Shypaw11 (talk) 01:55, March 20, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth the top part of the chest a tad, and add some more shading depth to the chest overall.

The shading on the front right paw and face still look sharp to me, mind smoothing it out? Also, I don't see any shading in his right ear, if there is could you darken it just a tiny bit? ~Patch   feather~   13:44, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste all round it. 13:54, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:39, March 20, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the tail and head shading some more. Also define the texture everywhere, as I can only make it out in a few spots. 01:49, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 02:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

So smol and cute! I can't really make out the stripes on the tail Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 12:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Smooth out the paw shading just a tiny bit more, and give the chest some depth in shading, as right by the base of the chest would be darker shading. <span style="">12:44, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded These blanks are so adorable! --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:17, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

im a little confused? I'm not sure if it's just me, but I cant make out the stripes under the shading on the tail? Do you have it on the same layer or something? <span style="">19:54, 3/21/2017

Yes. --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:56, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Do you have the whole image on the same layer? If so, I highly recommend against it, as it's much easier to have everything on separate layers. As for the tail, do you think you could separate those two layers, as we need to see the stripe pattern under the shading there. <span style="">19:59, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded I don't know how to use a separate layer. And yes, it's all on one layer. I tried to make two, so please tell me how I did! --Shypaw11 (talk) 20:12, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Since you said earlier that you're using GIMP, I think I can help with that. Just right click > Dockable Dialogs > Layers. Then, that'll open the layers menu. From there, you can make layers by either right clicking in the window and selecting 'New Layer' (if using a Mac), or by clicking the page + symbol at the bottom of the window (if using a PC). Then, you can order your layers and change their settings from there. On another note, for the tail, I still can't see the patterning very well.

Reuploaded Thanks Spooky! How's this? --Shypaw11 (talk) 22:22, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Theres waste around the head and tail. Also smooth out the tail shading just a touuuuch more <span style="">23:16, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded :) --Shypaw11 (talk) 23:59, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Im gonna be that guy and say this looks fantastic! CBA? <span style="">13:38, 3/22/2017

Sorry for breaking the CBA but I can't see the stripes on the face (cheek?) that the kit image has. 19:20, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Give a bit more shape to the face shading and smooth out the tail shading a little

Still can't tell about the lighter chest. 23:26, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Layers are magical. Shypaw11 (talk) 22:40, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

smooth a shading a little more 20:33, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 20:50, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Shading is leaking away from the lineart on the edges of the chest. Also, smooth the shading a tad more - the upload doesn't show too much difference.

Reuploaded 02:42, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

By smoothing out the shading, it looks like on the tail, there's a few gray pixels leaking? Idk what that is, but could you fix that? <span style="">14:34, 3/25/2017

Reuploaded It's blurred lineart. :P C'mon Shypaw, why did you have to do such a tiny blank for your first charart? 16:58, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Define the facial stripes a tad more, and define the earpink shading.

Reuploaded 22:59, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

There should be more stripes in the areas. Also smudge the earpink. Seventy Five Faith (talk) 01:38, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:50, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Could you smooth the pale chest more actually? <span style="">15:30, 3/26/2017

Reuploaded 17:42, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Define the facial stripes some more?

Reuploaded 20:54, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

There's lots of waste around it. (Specifically, below the flank, near where the flank meets the tail, below and above the tail, above the back, by the ---> ear, by the chest, around both paws, and there's tons of color leaking onto the lineart everywhere. 05:07, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:39, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Thats a ton of text for one image! Smudge the earpink?Broken_Foot

Smudging the earpink is not a requirement for this project, and tbh it looks smudged enough. I'm gonna try this again. CBA? <span style="">17:07, 3/28/2017

Sorry, Imma be that person, but the stripes on the kit image are denser, and there appears to be more of them. Also, define the stripes on the <-- side of the face or maybe make them reach out further -->, because I still can't see them as much as they should be defined to match.
 * To clarify, I meant only the tail stripes looked denser. The others look good though :3

Reuploaded I'm not sure what you meant by "denser", but I tried. :3 22:44, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

I think Spooky means that the stripes are thicker, but I not sure. --ErmineGlow (talk) 23:16, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Well, not really. I meant for there to be more of them - denser, like more closely paced together. But whatever you did in your last upload made it looks better, so I'm cool with the way it is at current.

I'll try it this time. CBA?

The lighter chest looks brighter on the other image; I actually had a bit of an issue seeing that it was even there.

There's waste above the tail. 22:34, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I colorpicked from the kit again. 22:57, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Where exactly are you colorpicking from? It still looks darker than the kit.

A little bit away from the chest towards the --> shading, but not on it. 23:01, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Try picking from a lighter area; the shading is naturally going to make things darker. The base even looks a bit darker too...

Reuploaded This time I colorpicked from the very center of the chest. 23:11, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the chest again, its too pixelated. Also there's a gray pixel under her mouth <span style="">23:15, 3/29/2017

Reuploaded 23:20, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Hayberry (Queen) - For Approval
First image ErmineGlow (talk) 22:44, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Don't align images. Also, define the shading on the stomach. 22:50, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

there shouldn't be eyelashes. 22:53, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

How come the <- ear has a rip in it? 22:54, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The shading looks a little flat on the belly. Shypaw11 (talk) 22:57, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I don't know how that rip happened, but it's fixed. Plus the eyelashes and belly shading.

There is still some black in the ear from where the rip was. Shypaw11 (talk) 23:10, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I blurred and smudged it to remove. Does it look better? ErmineGlow (talk) 23:14, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere <span style="">23:21, 3/06/2017

Reups Darkened shading ErmineGlow (talk)

I think you need to give your shading more shape, as these are supposed to represent 3d images, making it look real, so to speak. Instead of just plopping the shading on the tail and the legs as you appear to be, try only putting the shading around the edges of the legs/tail/etc., like some of the images on here. The apprentice tutorials help as well, and it's good to look at shading placement <span style="">23:28, 3/06/2017

Reups I tried to follow the shading placement image, so hopefully this is better. ErmineGlow (talk)

The lineart is blurred by where the ear tear and eyelashes were. 23:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Look better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:34, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth a bit 00:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:47, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Don't forget your signature. Also, smooth out the shading <span style="">00:46, 3/07/2017

Reups Better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:53, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

A little! Smooth out the shading on her tail, define the light on her legs as well <span style="">00:55, 3/07/2017

Add some shading where her chest is, and darken the shading on her tail just a tiny bit. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic (just realized that i was shipping myself with ashfur XD) 1:11 3/7/17

Reups Tried to smooth out the shading, and also darkened the shading at the tip of the tail. --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:16, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Try to use a darker color for the shading, because it appears that the shading is the same color as the pelt.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 03:50, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, it looks like a square on the flank <span style="">03:54, 3/07/2017

Reups Better looking? ErmineGlow (talk) 03:57, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

That looks more appropriate as the color for the shading. Try and lower the opacity and blur it more to smooth it out.

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 13:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Round out the shading on the flank, as it looks a little blocky the way it is now. Also, define the mottles on the paws, face, and --> side of the tail

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 22:22, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading more everywhere, define the light on the hidden back leg, and switch the shading on the farthest from us front leg to the other side of the leg <span style="">00:11, 3/08/2017

I think the shading is a bit too dark. Lighten the opacity a bit. Also, try to add some eye depth. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 00:19 3/8/17 UTC

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:03, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading a lot <span style="">23:35, 3/08/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:41, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Your shading on the face says the light is coming from the right, coming up a little. But your chest has shading close the lineart. o.O Is this supposed to be there? If not, erase that, because it would contradict the light source. And try to keep the light source consistent throughout the whole cat. Also deepen the eye depth. I think there's some there. . . ? Shine!  Beneath the Starlight

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:30, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth? Broken_Foot Slice Of The Crow's Talon 01:45, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:35, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the flank shading Broken Slice Of The Loved Crow's Talon 06:08, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups ErmineGlow (talk)

There's leaking shading around the very edges or the image, plus you need to smooth out the tail shading a lot more. <span style="">15:28, 3/09/2017

The shading looks square on the belly Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:04, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the mottled pattern on the --> side of the tail -- It looks like there's very little there.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the stomach and legs, and smooth it out on the tail. 00:17, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:35, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

What are you doing for smoothing out the shading? I dont see any differences between any of the revisions for the tail shading. To "smooth out" shading, use the blur tool on the edge of the shading, not the shading itself. <span style="">00:57, 3/11/2017

Reups Does it look better now? --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:18, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth it more please, and there's still shading leaking around the edges of the image. Define the shading on the legs minus the one hidden under the belly, define the light on the leg under the belly, the lineart is blurry by the < earpink (im assuming it's the eyebrow whisker), and there's what appears to be a white-ish color on the edge of the earpink on the forehead that shouldn't be there. Also, define the eye depth. <span style="">19:49, 3/12/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 20:47, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Shading'a leaking all along the tail. 21:02, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:43, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

You still need to add the light on the hidden back leg under the belly. Switch the shading on the front leg closest to us to the other side of the leg please. Shading is leaking all along the belly and head. <span style="">17:35, 3/13/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 18:39, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten and smooth the belly shading, you still have not added light to the leg under the belly, and define the light on the < front leg <span style="">18:46, 3/13/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 19:08, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Too much light on the leg under the belly, define the shading there. Still define the light on the < front leg <span style="">14:16, 3/14/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 17:43, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the belly shading <span style="">01:42, 3/15/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 14:54, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Define the darker mottles/parts on the <-- side of the tail

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 23:42, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like in some spots on the tail the shading is pixelated? like fuzzy static. <span style="">00:54, 3/16/2017

I added some mottles under the tail shading. Do you think it could be that? --ErmineGlow (talk) 15:41, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Idk it looks a lot different than your other ones, id say match the others or get rid of it. <span style="">15:43, 3/16/2017

Reups Hopefully the static is gone now. --ErmineGlow (talk) 17:11, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth and the darker mottles on the <-- side of the tail and the belly. Also, the <-- ear lineart is slightly blurred, I do believe.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:18, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I believe that on the <-- side of the belly, the line art is smudged near the top 08:08, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I can't find any smudged line art. --ErmineGlow (talk) 14:46, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

My mistake. Smooth out the shading a teeny weensy bit on the tail 19:27, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 19:30, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading, and also, even out the patterning on the <-- side of the tail. It kinda looks like a white-ish streak on my screen? Idek.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:57, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the shading on the tail? --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:47, March 19, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

It wouldn't hurt to also smooth it out on the stomach. 01:32, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 12:34, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

The shading on the tail is sharp, blend it in a bit? ~Patch   feather~   13:38, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:03, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth, and the tail shading still looks a bit odd. You mind smoothing it out more and giving it more shape? <span style="">01:48, 3/21/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Reups again --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:11, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading again, and define the eye depth

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 12:31, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading everywhere but the head, and lighten it some. Are you using layers? I can't really tell the difference between uploads. <span style="">20:51, 3/23/2017

Define the eye depth. 03:46, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 16:56, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth more. 17:04, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the tail shading more - still looks really sharp.

This image more than meets requirements to be at "for approval", so I'm changing the heading.

Ear pink is leaking. Seventy Five Faith (talk) 01:40, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:14, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the tail shading more. I'm still not seeing a big difference. <span style="">04:13, 3/27/2017

There's lots of color leaking onto the lineart in multiple places, and there's a teensy bit of waste where the < haunch meets the belly. 05:10, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for double comment, but define the shading depth on the face/head, legs, and belly some, as well as smooth out the shading on the < back leg <span style="">17:09, 3/28/2017

Reups Danny, I'm not entirely sure what you meant by color leaking onto the lineart, because as far as I can tell, all the lineart is pure black. --ErmineGlow (talk) 23:15, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out all the shading, and define it on the bottom half of the <-- side of the face

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:58, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Could you have the shading follow the tail shape? 03:03 3/30/17 UTC

The earpink is leaking on both the earsBroken_Foot

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 12:52, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading everywhere again save for the front legs

Rainstorm (A) ~ CBA
i apologize for inactivity i have been consumed by the homework demons 02:23, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Looking good! Define the shading on the tummy? 02:32, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the eyes a bit (to match the colour better and to fit "bright") and smoothen out the haunch shading a bit. Hi cinder :) 02:39, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading/ shading depth on the chest a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 13:04, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Rainbow

Reuploaded again, apologies, the homework demons have possessed me 00:58, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the <--- just a teensy tiny bit. 03:53, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Shading appears to be leaking away from the lineart on the top part of the <-- back leg.

define the light on the <--- back leg  15:53, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Still working?

Reuploaded if you thought i was done apologizing you were wrong 01:21, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Good job. Comments before approval? 05:38, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Brightwhisker (Star) - CBA
Someday I'll end up doing a charart that's not a StarClan cat, but today is not that day. 22:09, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Not bad! Smooth out the shading on the flank,  define it a bit on the head, and smooth it out on the ---> paw Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:37, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

reups 22:54, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

The shading on the face and chest looks..almost blotchy? Is that the word for it? It looks really different compared to the other shading Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:57, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

reups I think I didn't smudge it enough the first time, I blurred it some so hopefully it looks better. 23:21, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

reups fixed some stuff that bothered me 23:26, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit on the tail and left leg, and smooth it out on right leg and the chest. 00:28, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

reups 00:47, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

I think the shading's leaking a bit at the bottom of the chest. 13:20, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

no leaks here, s'all clear. 20:15, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

No, I can see it on my screen at least. The shading doesn't quite go down quite all the way to the lineart at the bottom of the chest like it should. 20:24, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

I can see it as well. It's in this area, if that helps any. There's a small patch of white that looks lighter than the rest, but given the source you're using, it shouldn't be that bright.

reups 21:13, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Please tell me if it's my screen, but the earpink doesn't seem to quite match the other images. Also, smooth the flank shading, define the shading depth on the --> paw, and add a little more shading on the bend of the elbow on the <-- leg.

reups 20:29, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

also, i just wanted to ask, could i possibly be a member of project charart? i've got 2 approved images, and as you can see this is my third. i've seen others be offered a place as kit/apprentice/ect on their first image, so, just wondering :) 23:34, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Oh yeah of course. You don't have to post an image to join the project - just have to put a join request on the main page. But since you asked, I just added you in as an apprentice. For the image, though, smooth the flank shading just a bit, as it looks a little blotchy.

reups just my luck, i restart my laptop, forgetting to properly save this, and it quicksaves as a png rather than the custom file for the art program. goodbye, sweet layers. 01:48, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Define and smoothen out the shading on the ---> front paw. 17:08, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Give the flank shading bit more shape?

reups 06:26, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like there's some light on her chest over by the > leg where it meets the chest that shouldn't be there, in this light source, especially since it's surrounded with shading. <span style="">15:29, 3/26/2017

reups i think i got it. 15:49, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth that part out just a smidge, looks a bit too profound <span style="">15:56, 3/26/2017

reups 19:37, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the tail shading on the white some, and also the chest shading on the --> side, since it looks a little blotchy.

reups i dunno what's up with my shading being so blotchy. maybe it's my art program's brush choice. i'll try a suggested program like gimp or smth after this is finished and approved, see if the brushes are easier. 22:26, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the chest shading a little more? It seems like there's this really defined circular area of light on the chest, if you can see what I'm talking about -- can you blur/smudge the shading on the edges of that? 02:38, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

reups 04:55, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

I think that the white on the <-- paw would go up a little higher, like the other images

reups 01:00, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the legs more, and get rid of some shading on her forehead, as there wouldn't be that much in your source. Also define the shading depth a tiny bit more. <span style="">17:13, 3/28/2017

reups 20:41, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Give a bit more shape to that white patch on the flank - it looks more circular/rounded/idk on the other images, versus just a patch the way it is now.

The patch on the other images is on the other flank. I put this patch here as one that's completely separate. 20:15, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

reups smoothed something. 01:47, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Very nice. Comments before approval? 05:37, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Wishkit (Star) ~ For Approval
Here's Wishkit. Second image, first starclan kit image, second tabby. On a roll here! 21:52 3/23/17 (UTC)

Define the shading on her side and tail, and smooth out the shading on the face and chest. 21:54, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Define the earpink and nose pink 21:59, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Which side? The flank that's visible or the side that's facing away from us? (I'm guessing it's the flank that's visible) 22:01 3/23/17 (UTC)

define the eye depth 22:05, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Technically it's still your first image, since Sweetbriar was declined due to the one month limit :P But define the earpink, I cannot see it. <span style="">22:32, 3/23/2017

re-up I think the eye depth's fine, but i may need second opinion. 22:33 3/23/17 UTC

Define the eye depth, add more shading to the flank, leg, and tail please, and get rid of some of the head shading. Smooth out the shading more, and you still need to define the earpink <span style="">22:35, 3/23/2017

re-up Does changing the eye position help? I tried to define the eye depth but that's kind of all I could do. 00:01 3/24/17 UTC

Her paws look more gray than white. --Shypaw11 (talk) 00:07, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

That's because of the shading. I can't really do much about it, since the base is already pure white and the shading's supposed to be there. I suppose I could take away some of the shading, but other than that, i have no idea what to do. 00:24 3/24/17 UTC

You could take away some of the shading. 00:34, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Brighten the white by putting an overlay layer on top of pure white and then dimming the opacity <span style="">00:54, 3/24/2017

re-up Only the --> paw can be lightened. The other one has to stay in shadow. Sorry, but I can't contradict my light source. 1:33 3/24/17 UTC

You would not be contradicting your light source. If the light is coming like this : --> Then there should be some light on the <-- paw. 01:35, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth, and also, this looks more yellow than it does pale ginger imo.

What do mean like this: -->? The light is coming fully on Wishkit, therefore her paw has to stay in shadow. Yes, Spooky, I agree that it now looks yellow. Whoops. 2:25 3/24/17 UTC

re-up 05:32 3/24/17 UTC

If the light is shining fully on Wishkit, like top down, then she would have light on her other paw, less shading on her head and tail, and the strand of shading on her flank up at the top would not be there. But still, define the eye depth, we cannot see it. <span style="">18:46, 3/24/2017

Define the earpink in the > ear 21:45, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth?

Snowdapple already said that. 01:17, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

No, I meant the light is shining at her face, like straight into her eyes. Shining onto her face and flank. That's what I mean. And give me some help with defining the eye depth. I can't seem to do anything with it. (I know what eye depth is, by the way.) 05:46 3/25/17 UTC

I've seen this source used before, and even though the light may be shining directly at her, the leg would still need light where Winter specified, and no shading would be at the top of the --> flank

Thanks. re-up. I may have accidently remove2d the shading in the wrong spot, so I'll fix that later. 20:22 3/25/17 UTC

Correct me if I'm, wrong, but there still appears to be shading on the top of the flank that shouldn't be there with this source? I can also see how it could be a dorsal stripe, but it looks more like misplaced shading. Also, expand the shading on the bottom of the flank just a little.

can you maybe define the stripes a litt,e I'm having trouble making them out 02:00, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

I've provided you with a redline on where your light source should be shining. Everywhere there is red should be light, which in some areas you have too much shading, or some shading needs to be switched around. The arrow is to remind us of where the light source is coming from, and from what you said, should be shining directly onto the face. <span style="">15:41, 3/26/2017

re-up Shoot, I'm so bad at following directions. I don't think this looks entirely right, but correct me if I'm wrong. I really need a timestamp. 00:01 3/27/17 UTC

Switch the tail shading to the other side of the tail, as well as the closest to us leg. Theres some waste by the haunch where the tail meets, and theres leaking ahading on the chest. <span style="">00:17, 3/27/2017


 * whoops sorry not the tail. But add a smidge more shading to the base of the tail where it meets the butt. <span style="">00:18, 3/27/2017

re-up Uh. . . there? Ta-da? 04:03 3/27/17 UTC

Hmm... smooth out the shading a little in the < ear and the shading is still leaking on the chest area where the light meets from the legs, and get rid of that little shading on the elbow of the leg closest to us as well, and I believe the eye depth could be defined a bit more as well. Try just adding a darker color around the bottom of the eyes and smoothing it; trust me, it'll help <span style="">04:11, 3/27/2017

re-up I forgot about the eye depth. Oh well. I'll get to that tomorrow. 04:29 3/27/17 UTC

There's gray pixels on the lineart on the <--- side of the tail (or would it be the topside because of the perspective?) 05:15, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the chest shading a littttttleBroken_Foot

Expand the shading on the head 21:55, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

re-up Personally, I think that the eye depth doesn't look too good. 23:10 3/27/17 UTC

There's still some leaking pixels on the chest <span style="">17:14, 3/28/2017

re-up Sorry for the delay. It's called "I have school and homework and dental and stuff" 23:45 3/28/17 UTC

Maybe make this a tad more pale ginger - it looks just yellow on my screens.

re-up Spooky, I dunno how much more gingery i can make this before it blends in with the stripes. 23:00 3/29/17 UTC

Sorry, but I've checked on 4 screens (phone, iPad, and two laptops) and this looks yellow. If you look up 'pale ginger tabby' online, they look different than this, and also cats like Brackenwing, Brackenfoot, and Sandgorse might give a better interpretation of the color this should be (or somewhere around those). The stripes shouldn't blend in too much if you tint them some, but this seriously looks like a yellow tabby and the last upload didn't change very very much, if you know what I mean.

​Antpelt (K) ~ For Approval
how do you get a pretty signatureSnake6 (talk) 23:54, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Snake6

Idk lol, smooth out and lighten the shading a bit Rainbowmistake (talk) 23:59, March 24, 2017 (UTC)rainbow

This needs a date and reservation on the chart

wait what chartSnake6 (talk) 00:03, March 25, 2017 (UTC)Snake6

Look here. Also, idk if it's my screen or what, but does he seem to have paler fur on his underbelly and the underside of his tail? If so, he shouldn't. 00:13, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

I don't see anything Ivy :P Also, smooth the earpink a smidge? <span style="">02:44, 3/25/2017

There should be a link to Antpelt's page in the heading I believe. Anyway, his belly does look a little lighter than the rest of his pelt to me, but I don't know about his tail... it might look like that because it's right next to the shading on the legs, so it makes it look lighter there. I have no idea if anything I just said made sense... maybe lighten the shading a little bit more. ~Patch   feather~   03:17, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

The shading is leaking away from the lineart on the back paw. 03:37, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

The left ear looks odd. --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:36, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Just gonna chime in here, when you give criticism, please refrain from using the word "odd" or something. Try and tell them something that you think will fix it, and be more specific, please. 04:30, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Let me rephrase then. The lineart for the left ear looks to thick. Could you change that? --ErmineGlow (talk) 16:53, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

The left ear is black Rainbowmistake (talk) 21:49, March 26, 2017 (UTC)chat

It's supposed to be black. 21:51, March 26, 2017 (UTC)


 * Shypaw, Rainbow was just letting Ermine know that the ear was black, because they had said the lineart looked too thick. When it was actuslly just a black ear <span style="">21:54, 3/26/2017

There's nothing leaking from the back paw, Shypaw. 05:17, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink? Broken_Foot


 * Again, do not repeat comments, Broken. I said that 3 days ago <span style="">17:15, 3/28/2017

Still working?

Rippletail (SC) (Ro) ~ For Approval
21:11, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading and darken it a smidge as well. Nicely done =O

Reups Thank you Skye! 22:01, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

The eye colour seems a bit off. Also, the shading seems a bit blotchy. Please smoothen it out. 22:05, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Reups  22:32, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Define the ear pink a little? 23:02, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

reups  23:05, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

I think there's an unfilled pixel on the tail tip? Also, the nose seems more gray than pink. 23:12, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Reups  23:19, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs? Also, smooth the shading on the --> half of the tail just a smidge.

Reups  01:33, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the <-- front leg? 02:12, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reups 02:57, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail-tip and on the --> front leg?

Define the shading depth a little <span style="">15:43, 3/26/2017

The shading seems a bit too light on the flank. Sorry if its not, or I repeated someone's comment Twisted Slice Of The Crow's Talon 18:13, March 26, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

There's one red pixel on the lineart near the back of the head. 05:21, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Probably just me, but I don't see the red pixelBroken_Foot

Reups 14:20, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the back hip a bit. 21:52, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Actually, smooth out the shading everywhere but the front legs/shoulder area. And also define the shading more on the front legs <span style="">17:16, 3/28/2017

Still working?

Minnowkit (CotC) (Kit) ~ For Approval
This is my first image, Minnowkit. To bad I can't do the stripe on his back. X3 Seventy Five Faith (talk) 23:39, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Ther's red pixels around the eyes where it's supposed to be gray? Pretty kitty! 23:47, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thank you, Shypaw. It's weird though, as I can not see any red pixels in GIMP. I tried though. Seventy Five Faith (talk) 23:54, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Since the light on this seems to be hitting from -->, I think you need to swap your tail shading to the other side.

Reuploaded 'Seventy Five Faith (talk) 01:29, March 26, 2017 (UTC)'

Define the shading depth everywhere and also define the earpink in > ear. <span style="">15:44, 3/26/2017

Define the light on the <-- side of the tail a smidge

I think there are some red pixels are still around the eyes. --ErmineGlow (talk) 16:57, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

sorry for double comment, popping in to say that I'm changing the header to 'For Approval', since this looks quite nice and meets the requirements for that.

Reuploaded 02:14, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the shading on the flank?Broken_Foot

Ear pink is leaking from the ---> ear 05:26, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 14:16, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

I don't think you got to the earpink. When Snek said it's leaking, I think he meant the earpink has a few pixels that are outside the lineart Broken_Foot

Define the light on the <-- side of the tail again - it still appears have some shading there when it shouldn't.

Still working?

Nettlepad (W) ~ For Approval
Me forgets everything

Define the shading depth on the right front paw and right hindpaw. I really like this one. ~Patch   feather~   13:30, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the hind leg furthest from us? <span style="">15:45, 3/26/2017

Not sure if its the texture, but the shading on the --> haunch seems too sharpBroken_Foot

Still working?

Splashpaw (A) ~ For Approval
I made a video with it.  BARK   March 26, 2017 (UTC)

This is nice! Could you define the eye depth and shading on his tail? The shading on his hind leg closest to us looks a bit sharp, smooth it out a bit? Define the shading on his front right paw too. ~Patch   feather~   13:39, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

I'm adding the For Approval tag to this, since you're an apprentice.

Smooth out the shading some and define the light on the hind leg closest to us. Also please refrain from adding so much coding to this approval page. Please put your signature here and then follow the tutorials around the wikia to help. <span style="">15:49, 3/26/2017

Not sure if it's just me, but the white looks pale grayBroken_Foot


 * looks white to me. Might be because of the texture <span style="">00:21, 3/27/2017

This needs to be named File:Splashpaw.apprentice.png. You switched the R and the E in the name. :P 00:53, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

When you don't understanded English all time ::::\  BARK   10:00, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Reupload I made this Charart more lighter  BARK   10:00, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

This is lovely, define the shading a bit on the front paw farthest from us? Also, make the tail tip more white?Rainbowmistake (talk) 16:52, March 27, 2017 (UTC)rainbow

I renamed this to be File:Splashpaw.apprentice.png, because apprentice was spelled wrong in your file name. Please continue uploading under this new name

Could you smooth out the shading on the ---> haunch?Broken_Foot

I am stupid, but "define" means "add" or what?  ShineC♉♏et   09:52, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

define in this case basically means to make more visible. 14:58, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Still working? last upload is 27th, even though I see you've commented after that

Downkit (Kit) ~ CBA
Um I don't really know what I'm doing but hope this is ok Snowfall (talk) 06:39, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

This is really good for your first image, Snow! Could you smudge the earpink a tad, and blur itBBroken_Foot

The next time you would like to work on an image, you need to reserve your image first. Failure to do this next time will result in an automatic decline. <span style="">16:02, 3/27/2017

Reuploaded Thank you! And erm, how do you reserve images? ;I Snowfall (talk) 20:52, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

to reserve an image, you can either place a join request here, where a senior warrior will add you into the project and to the chart and reserve it there, or add yourself into the chart here if you don't want to join the project and simply want to do the image. 20:56, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Is the ---> eye underneath the shading? It looks a little darker than the other eye. Or maybe it's just me. 21:50, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Ok I put it on the chart, and yes the eye is under the shading. I don't like the way it looks but that's the shading placement from the apprentice tutorial Snowfall (talk) 23:08, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Define the earpink in the --> a tad? And also, you're allowed to put the eyes over the shading if you like, but it's just an artists preference. That's what I do imao.

Reuploaded Snowfall (talk) 23:44, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the head shading a bit?Broken_Foot

Reuploaded Yeah I tried, there's not much of a difference but I don't how to smooth it out any more than this Snowfall (talk) 01:57, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading, I have to squint to barely make it out <span style="">17:20, 3/28/2017

Reuploaded Snowfall (talk) 22:06, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

The --> ear looks blurry compared to the other one. Blurred lineart maybe? 15:39, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Nope it was waste Snowfall (talk) 18:04, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

I changed the header to 'For Approval', because it meets those requirements. Congrats :)

mk. CBA?

Bristlekit (Star) - For Approval
15:45, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading a smidge? Rainbowmistake (talk) 15:49, March 27, 2017 (UTC)chat

Smooth out the chest shading, and oh my, Rainbow, you took the words right out of my mouth Broken_Foot

Reuploaded  15:52, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Could you like... add some highlights or slightly alter the base or something? This just looks pure black and I can't make out anything, even with max brightness on all three of my screens.

The shading doesn't look smoothed out at all, and I second SnowedLightning! It seems too dark, and I have to really squint to make out the shading.Broken_Foot

Reuploaded 16:19, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

I still think you should lighten the base as I make out linearrt or shading. 17:28, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:31, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading <span style="">18:45, 3/27/2017

Reuploaded 18:47, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth?

Reuploaded 20:58, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Coming along nicely^^ I'll change the header for this, because it meets those requirements. For the image, maybe define the shading a bit more?

Reuploaded Thank you Spooky. :) 21:03, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the chest shading?Broken_Foot

Reuploaded 21:13, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

I don't think he or Rabbitkit should get StarClan images. We have no proof they died as kits, and | Su said she and Vicky aren't sure if they became warriors or died before that. The cite for his StarClan name being Bristlekit is the same cite that we used to say cats like Flylight and Vixentail's names when they went to StarClan were they're kit names, which we now know is not the case. We're assuming that they died as kits, which is something we don't do on this wiki. 23:21, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realize that.. 23:22, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Well, I guess until its confirmed they died as warriors, we use the StarClan kit versions for them?Broken_Foot

I don't think so, as cats like Hatchkit and his siblings are confirmed to be is StarClan (or SkyClan ancestors, in this case) but don't have StarClan images because we don't know that they were kits when they died. 23:43, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Until it is confirmed, Bristlekit and Rabbitkit will still get images for StarClan kit. It is easily fixable. <span style="">00:16, 3/28/2017

I still disagree. As I mentioned, there are at least for cats in a similar situation that we didn't give StarClan images to because we'd be assuming that they were kits when they went to StarClan. How are these any different? 01:11, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Could I point out that Hatchkit and his siblings have a unknown under their ancestor name? Idk if it makes a difference, but Bristlekit does have a name under his StarClan resident. 01:19, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Also, his trivia says "if he had lived to become a warrior," which probably means he died as a kit or an apprentice. 02:20, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

The cite for that made no implications for him dying before he became a warrior. In fact, it said that neither Su nor Vicky knew whether he and Rabbitkit died before becoming warriors or not. 02:43, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Until confirmed otherwise, I don't think we're supposed to use the normal StarClan blanks.Broken_Foot

I suggest we do the same thing we did with Vixentail, we use the kit blank and eventually, if confirmed, we change it to the adult blank. 03:29, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

This conversation is meant for PC, not PCA. Please take it there. We handle art, not citations.

Curlypaw (App) - For Approval
All colors from other image. 04:43, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Cute! Smudge the earpink a tad?Broken_Foot

Smudging ear pink is not a requirement for these blanks, nor any other blank.

define the shading and expand it on the back legs and tail. 14:51, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 23:30, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Expand the shading on the top half of the --> back leg just a touch more.

add shading behind the elbow of the > front leg <span style="">00:19, 3/30/2017

To Snowdpaple: I followed the apprentice tutorial example for apprentice and it doesn't show any shading behind the elbow? 00:27, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I added a tiny bit anyways. 01:00, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Add more, the apprentice tutorial is not always correct. Plus in this source, there would not be any light behind that area <span style="">13:30, 3/30/2017

Smooth out the shading on the ---> haunch close to the tail?Broken_Foot

Reuploaded -- 03:05, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading. 05:36, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

I'm having no trouble seeing it. It looks perfectly fine imo 20:04, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Well, maybe define the shading depth on the backside of the cat, and I think you should be good to go

Drizzlepaw(A) ~ CBA
This is so ugly. I'll probably redo the speckles later. First image as a Warrior! Woo!Broken_Foot

Lighten the shading a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 19:46, March 28, 2017 (UTC)chat

Re-uploaded! Chnages might not showBroken_Foot

Lighten the shading more, add more shading behind the elbow of the > leg, define the light on the > back leg <span style="">19:52, 3/28/2017

Re-uploaded! EhBroken_Foot

Lighten the shading a little more. 20:54, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe blur the markings a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 22:34, March 28, 2017 (UTC)chat

Remove some of the brown speckles on the face. ErmineGlow (talk) 22:36, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Why do some of the brown speckles have to be removed from the face? I don't see anything in her description specifying where her brown speckles are, so wouldn't it be Broken's choice how much to have there? 23:03, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

I guess now that I think about it a bit more Broken doesn't. --ErmineGlow (talk) 23:09, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

ivy is right, the speckles are fine. can you make the eyes....idk, stand out a bit more from the speckles though? they blend in, for lack of better wording. 23:22, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! MehBroken_Foot

I know speckle placement is artist's choice, but can you make the speckles reach the lineart? It looks like she has a white outline in some places, such as the hip. 15:17, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! 4 apprentices for approval in a row XDBroken_Foot

You still didnt add more shading behind the elbow of the > front leg <span style="">00:20, 3/30/2017

Re-uploaded1 Tfw you just woke up after 2 hours of sleep and can't fall back asleepBroken_Foot

I feel you. It's 1:30 AM and I've been trying to fall asleep for 4 hours now. Keep getting distracted. Anyways, this is stunning. Comments before approval? 05:36, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Leafpaw (VS) (A) - CBA
Well then.. <span style="">21:24 Tue Mar 28

I think the light markings on her are lighter in the kit image? Also define shading? (I know, I know, it's a pain in the butt when you have to adjust shading. Believe me, I know.) 23:07 3/28/17 UTC

Reuploaded Redid some of the pattern as well. <span style="">15:40 Wed Mar 29

Comments before approval? Very nice. 05:35, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Thistlepaw (CotC) (A) - CBA
00:47, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

define the shading and the shading depth 01:05, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 03:01, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

The lighter patch on the chest seems fully white rather than just light gray. Darken it a bit? ErmineGlow (talk) 12:30, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

I think that's just because of a highlight?

It looks like there are some lighter pixels, maybe from the paler part on the chest, leaking onto the <-- front paw near the lineart of the chest. 15:15, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

I think there's waste between her whiskers. 20:17, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:20, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Not sure if its the pattern or the colors you used, but it looks like the earpink is leaking on both the ears. Very pretty!Broken_Foot


 * I think it's fine, and I checked the image and the earpink isn't leaking. It may look weird because of the shading placement against the lineart 00:46, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it looks fine to me. Comments before approval? 05:35, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Frosty (Lo) ~ For Approval
Poor Frosty, man. 01:52, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. It seems a bit rough, for lack of a better word, in some places.

Reups 03:07, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the shading some more on her legs? 12:25, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a tad on the shoulder? Very nice!Broken_Foot

Reups 18:19, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth on the paws a tad, and perhaps a little on the shoulder?

Reups 20:55, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the shading, I know shading color is artist's choice but right now it seems too dark. Feel free to disagree if that is not the case. 05:34, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Reups How's that? 16:38, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Looks good, could you define the shading depth on the bottom halves of all 4 legs, a little moreso on the front two? It just looks a wee bit flat, imo.

Lowbranch (Ro) - CBA
finally, a set that I'm actually proud of.

That looks awesome! (I really wanted her but . . . eh, I'm not jealous.) Uh. . . define shading on face? (I can't find anything wrong, really.) 22:57 3/29/17 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

CBA?

Featherkit (TPB) (Star) ~ For Approval
Yes, I know the eyes look really purple. They match the kit image, so that's why they're like that.

Is that texture on the body? Also. . . I'm kind of confused by your shading placement. Chest shading is on one side, and face shading is on the other. Explain that? Otherwise, great job! 22:24 3/30/17 UTC

The earpink looks a little neon and I think this needs to be the shorthair blank? Rainbowmistake (talk) 22:30, March 30, 2017 (UTC)chat

You're right, it is supposed to be the shorthair blank. I never really check, so. . . 22:34 3/30/17 UTC

Reuploaded I'm an idiot. Also, earpink matches the kit image, and I personally don't think it looks neon, so I'd rather keep it.

You still need to switch the shading on the face to the other side so that it follows the light source. 01:12, March 31, 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but I actually don't think so? I've used this exact same shading source on both my other StarClan kit images, and I've seen others with the same that I have.


 * I just don't really understand how that'd work? If the light is coming from --->, would it make sense for the ---> side of the face to be in the light? I mean, I'm not gonna fight you on this since you've had approved images with this, but I personally don't get it. Anyways, smooth out the shading on the <-- paw 01:51, March 31, 2017 (UTC)


 * It looks fine to me :/Broken_Foot


 * Tbh I think it should be the other side of the face and the shading could be lightened a bit Rainbowmistake (talk) 02:53, March 31, 2017 (UTC)chat

Reuploaded lightened shading  few ticks, smoothed paw shading. As I just said, I've used this source before, and know it's correct. I really don't see the problem in keeping it similar to my other approved images.

The shading looks fine to me, and I know Spooky is nowhere near the only person to have used a source like this. I've seen it quite a few different times over the span of the time we've had the StarClan blanks; this and the regular StarClan blanks run on the same basic source, and I know this source has been used there as well.

I think the shading on yhe forelegs should be swapped though, because there isn't anything obstructing the light on those. 16:51, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded

​Ripplestar (DF) - For Evaluation
Wolfloversrunfree (talk) 03:00, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

This needs a reservation on the chart, which you'll find on the Project Charart page. Other than that, define the shading. This is great! 03:41, March 31, 2017 (UTC)


 * silently cries because had eye on him for a while* The pattern doesn't really seem to match, but it's pretty cool either Way!Broken_Foot

Please add a link to your heading. And define eye depth. Looking good for your first image! 05:24 3/31/17 UTC

Reuploaded Wolfloversrunfree (talk) 10:18, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit more?Broken_Foot

Grasswhisker (Star) ~ For Approval
this is what happens when you make a charart on little sleep lul 06:44, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

It doesn't look bad. Define shading? 17:22 3/31/17 (UTC)

His cite says that his eyes are yellow. 18:29, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

I can see how it could look yellow. . . but it doesn't really look yellow. 19:26 3/31/17 (UTC)

Smooth the pale belly out <-- way just a tad, only because it looks softer on the kit image