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Willowbreeze (K)- For Approval
Here she is..... Comments? Echostar229 03:37, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink darker/more dull. 03:39, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any silver parts, maybe add some streaks or patches? Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 03:57, March 16, 2011 (UTC) scratch that. Darken the whole thing a tad. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 04:48, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Echostar229 01:31, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:19, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Echostar, you can only have one image up for approval. As of now, you have two; Oakheart and Willowbreeze. I don't know what happens next, another user probably know though. MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well she stopped working on it I think. Echostar, I suggest you put withdrawn by user on Oakheart's image, or we can see if it'll just be declined because the image may not be needed. Oh and brighten the highlights a tad on the image. :3 20:12, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

I did put the words 'Withdrawn' on it, and the image has been removed from the page. I had stopped working on him about a week ago, in case no one noticed my lack of updating him, me starting a new image, and the big words in the title. Oh, and, reuploaded. Echostar229 01:25, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well you never actually specified that you had withdrawn it. So please do so in the future. Add tail shading, add shading to the fore arms, add shading under the chin Night  shine  01:29, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Weird, 'cause it said 'Withdrawn' next to it on my computer before it was archived. The light's coming from the left [her right] so I don't think she would have chin shading. There's also shading on her arms and tail. Echostar229 01:38, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

I was the one that put withdrawn there. There should be shading under the chin since all other kit chararts have that and it makes it look less flat. Darken the shading on the forearms/tail Night  shine  23:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. Reuploaded. Echostar229 00:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Darkhallows... Mew? 04:57, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. 01:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think the shading's gotten worse...... :S Echostar229 03:53, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest.  Mistfire 1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading go all the way across under the chin/ the neck. 22:54, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest and tail. 22:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Go blur crazy! Cardinal fire My fluffy yellow cake!

Thin out the shading on the top of the chest. It needs to round out more, to fit the shape of the chest. --  Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 07:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Will anyone help me with blurring? Echostar229 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken her shading to make her look more like her other chararts up for approval because they are darker than this..Honeybreeze 18:32, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help =) And the colouring is fine; you don't need to fix it. Enlarge the earpink a bit and then blur it --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:31, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest lots.  Mistfire Spring rainfalls  20:22, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/blur that little highlight on the tail tip or lighten if that was shading. 00:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it and reuploaded it for you, Echostar =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:45, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add/lighten the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more even, and center it. 00:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken tail shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten or darken the earpink a tad. 17:02, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I take it you're not working on this anymore since you reserved another. Night shine  00:37, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I haven't reserved another. My grandma just died, so i haven't been able to work on this. Sorry. I'll go reupload this. Echostar229 00:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry! I thought this was Wildheart's image so I put it as withdrawn. I'm really sorry for your loss. Night shine  00:50, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

So sorry! Can I take over? ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 00:59, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Echostar is still working on this. Night shine  01:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still doing this. :S Echostar229 01:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I wonked up the shading again... :S Echostar229 01:22, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

blur the chest shading. 01:23, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a little bit. Night shine  01:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur chest shading LOTS.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:00, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink when you darken it. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:19, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

You might have to re-do this, she looks like a two-toned cat now. 00:47, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It'll be fine as soon as it's blurred and the shading is thinned out on the chest. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:41, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:18, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Its been 9 days...blur the chest highlight. 22:44, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, ah, Mistystar? It can get annoying when people repeat things that have already been stated several times. Ravensoul101 and I were in a car accident, and currently I have my right hand in a cast, and since I'm right-handed, getting on the computer can be hard. I'll try to work on this tomorrow. Echostar229 02:22, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

My mistake; I'm so sorry! I hope you get better soon =) 18:23, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little sloppy. And try to darken it just a tadSandstormrocks32 22:52, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I ended up re-doing it, and I need desperate help with the shading. Can someone help me? Echostar229 02:38, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

I can help. What do you need help with? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:32, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you didn't fill in the area for the ear pink. But other than that it's pretty great! Sandstormrocks32 17:43, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 00:25, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  00:56, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Echo's still working on this. Her comp is having issues, and it won't be fixed for a few more days. @Wildheart- she needs help with blurring the shading, and is wondering if you can help with thinning it out. [She's standing right behind me while I type this, so that's how I know. :P] 03:23, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Is the nose color supposed to be greyish? Sandstormrocks32 23:22, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Um, are Apprentices allowed to comment on other Chararts? Whether they are or not, I'll say this: Darken the earpink a tad. Apart from that, I think it looks great!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:20, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, her nose is black on her apprentice Charart, but maybe all apprentices have black noses. I dunno.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:25, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, apprentices are allowed to comment on chararts lol anyway, I reuploaded it for you, Echo. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:45, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, it obviously didn't work. Reuploading again. }  wild    heart   ~    02:35, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 21:24, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ack. I thought I had uploaded this a week ago. :P Anyway, Re-uploaded. Echostar229 02:43, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ummm... guys, lay off of them a bit, they where in a car crash, its gonna be slow-going for a bit.

Lightningstar

Who was giving them trouble? Nobody's been rushing them since like... /checks. like a months ago. And Lightningstar, sign with four ~s when you're on talk pages. This looks lovely, maybe just make the earpink a bit paler, and make the nose color match the earpink color. Other than that it's great! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:27, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

It looks pretty good, but it's a bit flat. Darken the shading a tad and I think it will be ready (unless someone else notices something o3o). 02:22, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink Sandstormrocks32 17:07, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Rosepetal (A) - For Approval
Toadstep seems to be getting one, so Rosepetal shoud as well. Not so proud of the stripes on this one. Cronstructaments? 02:16, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section. Make the earpink stand out some more. 02:18, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Take the eye colour off her warrior charart, fix the blurred lineart on its head, and make the stripes like the ones on her warrior charart. They just look like random swirls right now. 02:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, shouldn't this be declined too? Toadstep's was decbe sides, they were never seen as apperentices, so unless frostheart, or Nightshine say it can stay I think it might be declined. Maplepool 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Frostheart wants them to have images. I think it has a chance. 22:08, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, don't just go saying random things before you know the whole story. There are reasons it stayed up. :P 23:19, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more stripes on the back so it matches the warrior pixel's stripes. Lighten the tail highlight. This looks good =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:18, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  17:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripe style just looks way different from her warrior charart. Examine it for a little while to see what they look like, and copy off of it. Also, define the ear pink. 17:42, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried my best to copy the stripes. 19:25, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There is one part right before her tail tip which is lightet then the rest of her tail, darken that, other than that very nice Maplepool 22:43, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too dark, and still kind of big, and while they look more like her warrior charart's, they're not quite there. And what's cronstructaments mean? xD 01:10, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

See if you can edit the colors to match the shade of her warrior charart's. -- 01:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten/darken the earpink and maybe try blurring the stripes. 16:28, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone just redline where the stripes would be? That would help a lot DX 20:01, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:21, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest outlining the stripes in the 'smudge' tool, that would blur them a little. 21:33, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

You said you wanted a redline for the stripes? Here it is XD You had the right idea, but a couple of them were off. Basically, all you have to follow is where the stripes meet the lineart, but you can take artistic license with the rest, as we haven't seen the right side of her body yet. So go crazy =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:44, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the redline, Wildheart. I owe you one xD 21:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes' color. 22:20, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

No problem =) Maybe add some stripes to the front leg and the front of the haunch. I didn't add any to the redline because I didn't want to influence where you put them =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:51, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

On the back leg, there is an area that isn't blurred. It's the tip of the bottom stripe. Ivystripe 00:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Reuploaded  21:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

You could another stripe to the front of the haunch... 21:13, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make all of the stripes consistent with eachother. The one on the front of the haunch is what all of them should look like (color wise) in my opinion. 22:10, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 21:05, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes and define them =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:01, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, it seems to almost blend in with the pelt color. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  17:34, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm going to withdraw this; anyone who wants can take over. 16:39, April 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll be happy to take this over for you for you Lone Wolf. Okay everyone I made the few edits that were last said, but I'm not done blurring as I have to go for tonight. Comments for now?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:04, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * There are some places that are the base color, not the stripe color, and should touch the lineart, unless that's what you were going for and they are the sides of a stripe? Ivystripe 18:33, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Sharpen the stripes =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes look like the ones in the redline. 23:25, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes skinnier.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:22, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt color more creamy-pink like her warrior image. 96.51.53.81 17:01, April 9, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Lighten the stripes a tad, blur the highlights, and define the ear-pink. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:23, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded Finally found time to upload this. After studying the earlier image with Rosepetal's other images, I redid Lone Wolf's version completely to give her the pelt color as the rest of her's. I gave her the red markings like you wanted Mistystar and added in the markings from her other images. I don't really think making the stripes skinner will actually work with this Mistfire, but tell me what you think. And yes Ivystripe thats what I'm going for. Comments?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:33, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make everything a little more pinkish. Lighten the stripes and blur them. Darken the ear pink, blur the shading. Night shine  00:36, April 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 04:18, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * She looks a bit too pinkish... I dunno if she's supposed to be, but make her creamier brown.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:12, April 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think I might wait for another response on this if its okay with you Mistfire? Her kit image is rather pinkish than cream while her warrior image is less pink, so I want another opinion before I change the image around. -- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 00:05, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I actually think the pelt colour looks good. Perhaps add some stripes on the bottom of her haunch, to fill it out. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:29, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes, and blur the shading and earpink. 21:17, April 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded....I think I brighten them too much but maybe that's my opinion.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:51, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the ear pink more visible, and blur it. 22:09, April 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 23:16, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing a tad and redden the earpink a bit. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:31, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hold up Wildheart, first you said the pelt fur was fine, now you say darken it. I never touched the pelt color, just the stripes.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:13, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Haha sorry... I dunno. My opinion changes on things, and I took a look at the warrior image and it looks a bit brighter. You don't need to change it if you don't want to, though. Which image are you following? Her warrior or her kit? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   05:12, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * The warrior image...I find her kit image to be "too" pink if you ask me. Her stripes are hardly visible on it, that's why I chose the warrior one. So you say the warrior is brighter than this one?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 04:07, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say that the warrior one is a tiny bit darker than this one, but it's not as bad as I originally thought it was when I asked you to change it =P Brighten the earpink a tad. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:55, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear clor because it's hard to seeSandstormrocks32 23:05, April 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded I darken her a tad and tried messing with the ear pink...it's rather hard to find one that goes good with her pelt color.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 23:04, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

There's a random light patch on the front paw which needs darkening, and fix the blurred lineart in the ear. This is loverly XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 05:43, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops how did I miss that? XD Well fixed and Reuploaded-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 21:01, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

One of the haunch stripes looks kind of weird. Make it more triangular. This looks great! 22:34, April 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but do you mind telling me which one it is? I think you're talking about the one closest to the tail, but I'm not sure. Just want to make sure before any edits =)-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:27, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

There's still some blurred lineart in the ear. Other than that, this is great XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 02:51, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten the stripe a bit. :3 20:15, May 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * The only way I can really make these stripes lighter and go with the pelt is by lightening the entire image...sorry about that. And I think I finally got that weird lineart I kept missing.Reuploaded-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:06, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit. 03:53, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. And the stripes seem to grayish. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:07, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

define the earpink a bit:D Nice job! 20:55, May 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded Finally, I'm just about done with finals and have time to work on this. This should look more like her warrior image now :) [[File:Rosepetal.warrior.png]] Comments?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 00:47, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and highlights a bit. This is lovely. 06:44, May 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded Done and done-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 00:13, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Revised edit...realized I was missing a stripe on her face and on her hind paw-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:08, May 14, 2011 (UTC)-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:08, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great! Perhaps try to make the eye color lighter. At el  da  02:15, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make the eye brighter. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:53, May 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ |undefined 22:22, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt. W) - For Approval
She was described as a black-and-silver cat in Forest of Secrets on page 15. Comments? 23:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the black on the tail, make the ear-pink a tad smaller and brighten it, darken the shading on the white parts, and brighten the highlights. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:07, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:00, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white areas silver. Smudge the black transition. Add eye colour, blur the ear pink and blur the shading Night  shine  00:03, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:32, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! I like the markings! The silver still looks white, so darken it a lot, and darken the shading as well. Move the ear pink up a bit. 00:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the black near the shoulder area. 01:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Silverstream.warrior.alt.png 02:47, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How do I rename it? And I'll thicken the black later when I have time. 03:44, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rainwillow: Whatever you are using to edit your image, save it, left click, there will be a list of suggestions, rename it Silverstream.warrior.alt, and upload it as a different image and replace the current image with the different one.  Icy 123   ♥  14:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the shading. 16:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the white some more; it still looks white, and not silver. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more centered and blur it. Smudge the black transition. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it still look white? Could somebody help me with the black and the shading? However much I blur the shading, it still looks the same. 11:07, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not to dark, it looks like gray. I would try along the side between white and gray. So its not gray, but its like a light gray, 13:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I can help blur the shading. I'll do it right now, and I can lighten the silver parts like Feathermoon said too. =3 21:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mossy! 10:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... When she was described as black and gray I think they meant she was gray with black stripes, her being a tabby and all. It's like saying Brambleclaw is black and brown... Darkhallows... Mew? 06:17, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Actually she was described as black and silver not black ans gray. XD It didn't say anything about her being a silver-and-black tabby on page fifteen in Forest of Secrets, but I could always fix it. Anyone else who agrees with Darkhallows? 10:25, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I thik that it should stay like this; It isnèt the same kind of thing like ginger cats, they natrally have stripes. Silver and Black cats have never had natral stripes unless listed as tabbys. (Feathermoon but not logged it :3)

Feathermoon, what? A silver and black tabby is very possible. She's a tabby, mentioned as black and silver/ I was thinking that too, but I just never got around to mentioning it. xD Rainwillow silver is a shade of gray, same thing. They never said anything about her being tabby on that page, but she IS tabby. :P 22:09, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...You do have a point there, Mossy. And since she is a tabby, I will agree with Darkhallows. 22:19, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

This (click) is a silver tabby. I would describe that as black and silver. Darkhallows... Mew? 01:17, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

So is it agreed? Should I change this as a silver she-cat cat with black stripes? 04:39, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I belive so. 13:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Blur the shading and haunch highlight. (This is Mintstarr.)98.22.139.18 21:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Considering her main picture is a silver tabby, I don't think she needs an alternate. Darkhallows... Mew? 06:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wait....so is this going to be declined? Frostheart? Night shine? What do you guys think? 11:35, April 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the ear pink smaller. Smudge the transistions more. Make the ear pink more reddish. Brighten the highlights. Fix the lineart on the tail. -- 01:25, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the black more stripey or tabbylike.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  02:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, im not the lead, or deputy, but, I think that Silver-and-black is different from, Silver tabby, Im just an apperentice, so my opion my not mean much, but I still think this should stay up.... Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think this should stay up since black-and-silver is much different than just a silver tabby. -- Night  shine  17:54, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, since it's going to stay up, do I have to change it to a silver cat with black stripes as Darkhallows said? 02:14, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

That's what I would do, but I guess it's up to you, as it didn't specify. Blur the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:53, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Okay, after I read all of these comments, I decided to make Silverstream's alt. image into a silver cat with black stripes. I made the stripes similar to Silverstream's warrior image, so I hope it looks okay. Does the silver still looks white? Mossy, are you still going to help me blur the shading? If not, could somebody help me blur it? 07:20, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 01:06, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * bangs head on desk* I hate myself for making those hard forsaken markings! Anyways... ^^ you missed a few of the markings on her leg from her warrior image, basically on her hind leg and forepaw thats like behind her from our point of view. Also blur and I'll help if Mossy isn't able to. Also don't forget to add in shading and blur the ear pink as well.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:38, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to be blurred as well. The edges of them looked smudged-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:17, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How about now? 01:39, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

The markings on her back still seem a tad blotchy where the black meets the silver :/ what program do you use by chance?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:07, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I use pixlr. The stripes looks fine to me. 02:14, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rainwillow; the stripes look no blotchier then the ones on her regular warrior image. All I would suggest is shrink the big black spot in the middle of her back a tad. 02:44, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes dont mave to match her warriors image because this is an alternate. Someone tried to match the Tigerheart stripes on an alt and someone said they didn't have to match. But if you want to do it like this, you can. 96.51.53.81 03:32, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Re-uploaded. I made the black spot a bit smaller. Does anything else need to be fixed? 08:23, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular because on your picture it shows it where one part of it is full but the other side looks kinda wrong...Honeybreeze 15:28, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, Rainey! Lighten the ear pink and center it. 22:47, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading on the black parts needs to be defined a bit. The grey parts look good! Ivystripe 00:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Re-uploaded. The earpink is horrible! Could somebody help me on it? 04:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Fixed the earpink again with Frostheart's help. Does it look to bright? 04:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. And maybe add some stripes to the back leg farest from us. 23:31, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Anything else? 11:06, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The markings need smudged a little more. Make it flow with her shape. 00:42, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Er, I don't think the markings need to be smudged. That's for two different colored cat. And I if I blur the stripes, it'll look to blotchy. Anybody else agree with Ivystripe? 04:28, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. I also think the markings should be smudged. Darken the shading as well. Night shine  01:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Er, could someone help me smudge the stripes? I'm not very good at that. 11:06, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I could try helping you smudge it, but I don't know if I'm allowed since I'm working on a charart 14:21, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I can help, if you'd like.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:30, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Icestorm is helping me now, but thanks for the offer. 03:39, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, too.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:17, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit. 22:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

If anybody is wondering why I haven't been working on it, it's because Icestorm and me are trying to figure out a way to darken the shading without runing the smudged stripes. 11:52, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I can help with the shading if you want. Night shine  22:46, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

You can? Thanks Nightshine! =D After Icestorm smudges the stripes and uploades it, you can darken the shading. 23:40, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The stripes are smudged now, thanks to Icestorm. Nightshine, you can help me darken the shading now please. 11:11, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

This looks really good! Make the earpink a bit redder and blur it. 16:03, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I tweaked the shading. I had to also get rid of some of the old shading so the stripes are a bit thinner. Night shine  05:46, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nightshine! It looks great! So....comments? =P 12:16, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the front paws and right above the back legs. Other then that it's BEAUTIFUL! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:22, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very pretty *pets Silverstream* Do what Paleclaw said above. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:45, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear color more red Sandstormrocks32 23:11, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:25, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How about now? 12:38, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look really strange. . . the only thing that really makes it look like a classic tabby is the two stripes on its back. If you're having trouble, I could redline it for you. o3o 17:59, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I made this redline of a classic tabby cat, use it if you want to. :3 19:18, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I like ^that^. Blur the shading. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:45, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Someone attacked the page, and removed the image that was up here, and replaced it with something else. I got the page back to what it was before it got edited. I'm sorry if that's not the right image up. -- Cloud skye  18:46, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

You should do the red line one because it does look betterSandstormrocks32 21:53, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

I am using it. I'm just not done with it yet.... 11:17, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''It looks...horrible all over again! (except for the stripes. XD) Anyways...help? 12:39, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great! I like it better than the old one Sandstormrocks32 23:26, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! 23:32, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Does this look any better? 23:53, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Totally, I would blur the stripes just a tad, and make the earpink cover more of the ear, it looks great though. At el  da  01:18, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded How does it look now? 03:07, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge all of the stipes, add shading. Night shine  06:01, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll do it ASAP. 06:03, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Looks awesome! Fill in the white pixel on her haunch. 21:52, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink and make it bigger. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:54, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

You should make thw hole body light or brighter. NOT the stripes the stripes are good Sandstormrocks32 15:08, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tweaked it for you, like you asked, Rainy. People: you'll know when the changes are showing when the white pixel on the haunch is gone. }  wild    heart   ~    02:26, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Wildheart! 04:22, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge all of the stripes. Some of them don't look smudged or blurred at all. Add shading/darken the shading. Make the ear pink triangular. Night shine  06:11, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks kind of smudgy. Fix that, and everything else said above. xD 21:56, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Can anybody help me again? 04:21, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

@Nightshine and Mistystar: the changes still aren't showing. But as soon as they are, Rainy, save the image and change the earpink/shading. }  wild    heart   ~    05:40, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Are the changes showing now? 10:46, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 08:40, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 04:00, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it look better? 08:14, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make sure all of the stripes have been smudged. Darken the shading more. Night shine  02:34, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the tail highlight. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:12, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

blur everything a lot then it would look perfect! Sandstormrocks32 01:32, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Add highlights. 20:53, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the haunch, it looks beautiful :) 01:06, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm still working on this, so please be patient. XD 04:20, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the base coat. 23:04, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

It's looks so good! Only, down her tail it goes dark, dark, dark, dark, SUDDENLY REALLY BRIGHT! You should fix that. 02:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

It seems to me like there are too many stripes. She should look silver with black marking, not the other way around. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:55, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how it looks black with silver markings, but. . . if she does take some off, it should be on the legs, chest and belly. Just a tip. 05:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

This is getting confusing....I think it looks good the way it is. But if anybody agrees with Darkhallows, tell me. 05:19, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ivypool (W)- For Approval
Here's what I got of her so far! Critique? Ivystripe 02:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Pretty good! Blur the highlights and earpink some more, and add some smaller patches. She also has white paws, so fix that. Lighten the white some more, too, so it doesn't look so gray, and add shading. If all the darker gray is the shading, thin it out. 02:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Dont make the highlights so bright. 02:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and lighten the silver fur. -- 02:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Extend the highlights on the forelegs, brighten the highlight on the gray part of her forehead, darken the ear-pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:13, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I had a feeling I made the shading too dark. By the way, I got the ear pink from her apprentice image, so I thought that should be right? If not, oh well Ivystripe 16:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Make her white where you had the gray (like her apprentice image). Darken the ear pink to a darker colour. Also whiten her paws and where was the tail-tip from? I'll need to check her charart at the moment E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:41, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened the ear pink, lightened the shading, tried to add more light parts to the legs. Ivystripe 19:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Lighten the whole thing up, it looks too grey. 19:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I uploaded the fixed version but it's not showing. This isn't right....Ivystripe 19:54, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Make the highlights bigger and make the earpink more triangle-shaped. 19:56, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Stunning! blur the highlights a tad, and lighten the white, to make it look, whiter....(<FAIL WORD DX) there seems to be a lighter part on her legs, IDK what it is, so blur it out, if its highlight, its dosen't go there Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:25, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Make the highlights more visible, and blur them. 23:08, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the gray a lot, and smudge the patches too. And the stripes looks different. . . also the big patch on her back doesn't make sense with the markings on her apprentice charart. And she had a gray patch on her chest. 01:31, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great so far! Center the earpink and make it more trinagular. 04:48, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I can update this at home, but for some odd reason it won't let me type, so I can't say when I re-upload it. Please be patient with me. I looked at her kit image to get her spots the way they are. What's different about the stripes? Do you mean that I should make them thicker, thinner...? Ivystripe 16:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Completely redid the spots and stripes, lightened her silver/grey color, and fixed the ear pink. Ivystripe 19:59, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The markings still don't work. Here she has one huge patch on her back, but on her apprentice image she has two patches on her back. 23:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

But also, that's her other side. I looked at her kit image to help her with the reverse side. If I reversed this warrior image of her, THEN I'd need to use those exact markings. 23:20, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you need to add the chest patch because on her apprentice charart it comes over to this side of her. Also, the edge of the patch on her chest is kind of sharp. Make it a little rounder and more natural. Brighten the shoulder highlight and make the earpink a little more red. Darken the tail shading as well. 23:48, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, I see. Lemme go fix that really quick... 23:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:06, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

It's her other side, but the patches aren't attached and they can't randomly go from unattached to attached. 01:28, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I referenced off her kit image as well, and that's how I percieved it. Do you think maybe you could redline what you mean? I'm just not sure exactly what you're envisioning 209.34.114.210 13:56, April 7, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed it]

The shape of the patches doesn't have to be the way I drew it, it just needs the space between them. Smudge her patches a lot more too. 07:15, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I hope this looks alright. 19:59, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Oh! You didn't have to change the patches' shape, just put a space between them. :P 21:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think it looks better, but it still doesn't look right though. I might need to smudge it more.... 21:12, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the patches so they match her apprentice image and blur the shading. 04:29, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

No, it would make it much darker than in her apprentce image. I picked the colors off her charart. 11:29, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 11:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights and darken the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  15:03, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

This is great, Ivystripe! Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:44, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, it looks kinda lumpy. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:35, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 01:18, April 11, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur the shading; the white is a bit too inconsistant. The patches are beautiful! --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:33, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I cannot blur the shading any more, all I can do is smudge it. No matter how much I smudge it, it just never looks right to me :/ 01:38, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink some. I can help with the shading if you want... =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:42, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:07, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Lighten or redden the earpink, and blur it. 22:09, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:22, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Neck shading needs to be blurred, so does the leg shading. The earpink needs to be changed, brighter or darker, not too sure. And there is some kind of color outside the lines. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  01:59, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

And you might want to blur the edges of the markings a bit. They look a little too smudgy. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:48, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Man I hope this is finally the right earpink color 21:14, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Sadly, no, I don't think it is. Use the apprentice tutorials to find the right one. some of the highlights look blotchy. And there is still some gray outside the image which needs to removed. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:16, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, this looks great! Just make the ear pink redder. 23:33, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid the ear pink entirely, tried erasing the shadows outside the outline, and I tried to blue the shading some more. 19:42, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

I feel mean saying this, but the earpink is too neonish. And the highlights could be blurred some. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  20:35, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

I took it from the apprentice tutorial like I was told to do. If this isn't right then I don't know what color to make it :/ 00:16, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah lighten the earpink a bit. Maybe dodge it on like 5% and then colourpick it and redo the earpink. The charts aren't exactly accurate. They're just guides =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:37, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Still don't think this ear pink color is quite right. 00:22, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit paler. Maybe take from Mistystar's leader charart? --> <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:34, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 14:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around the charart 17:14, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And make the earpink bigger  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   21:32, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the ear-pink a tad. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 23:39, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Define the gray patches, it blends too much with the shading. Night shine  22:45, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

''Note: I am having some computer issues at the moment, but I am going to try saving the xcf. file to a flash drive and working on this at school. This shouldn't take long until I can reupload this ''71.72.151.61 22:55, April 19, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Looks perfect! :)Sandstormrocks32 23:15, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

This. Is. Beautiful. Ivystripe. Blur the earpink just a teeny bit.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:05, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

The smudging on the two patches on her back looks a bit messy, and make the ear pink larger and a bit lighter. 17:56, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Hopefully the rest of the waste around the lineart is finally taken care of! 00:12, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Neaten up the edges of the tabby patches and brighten the earpink a tad. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:48, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:40, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/add shading to the tail. This looks great! 16:05, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thin out the neck shading, blur the earpink, and erase the waste around the charart. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:58, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see the waste around the charart. Could somebody help me fix that? Or, at least, where is the waste at? I can't see it. 209.34.114.210 13:30, April 26, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Reuploaded Did all suggestions, tried getting rid of the waste...I thinned out the neck shading, but now her neck is bothering me. Does anyone else see that? 19:57, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it might just be my home computer. It looks fine at school, but her shading doesn't match her apprentice shading...should I try lightening the shading or leave it as is? [Ivystripe not signed in]

Yeah the neck shading could be blurred a bit. The shading doesn't have to match =) just the markings.  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    01:29, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried blurring the shading as much as I could, but it looks to me it could still use more. 13:35, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I love it! Sandstormrocks32 23:12, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

The patches really need to be defined against the shading. Lighten the shading where it's the most dark. Night shine  00:52, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I had to redo the neck shading since I couldn't save it on my computer, but I went ahead and lightened it. Does the redone neck shading look okay? 13:41, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yup. Could be a bit thinner, though. Brighten the earpink and then blur it so it's smoother. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:02, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 16:24, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes look more like her apprentice's image and make the earpink a tad smaller. 20:06, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

But on her apprentice image they are on the other side, I tried copying from both the apprentice and kit images, keeping both in mind. [Ivystripe not signed in] 65.31.51.134 22:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't mean like totally match up, I just meant the style of the stripes. :P 22:34, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

But I don't see how they're not similar...? [Ivystripe not signed in] 65.31.51.134 00:14, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

They look fine. Don't change anything. }  wild    heart   ~    01:56, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, well what about the ear pink? Do you agree that needs to be smaller? [Ivystripe not signed in] 209.34.114.210 14:26, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, a bit. And maybe redraw the earpink because it looks a little bit too blurred right now. I meant don't change the stripes :3 'cause they're bootiful haha   }   wild    heart   ~    03:24, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid the earpink, I don't know if the changes are showing yet because of wiki uploading problems. 16:35, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well can you at least define the stripes? :P 21:04, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand how they look wrong though...do you mean darken them? I got the stripe color off the kit image. [Ivystripe not signed in] 71.64.142.101 22:44, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around the charart. 00:45, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Umm can you tell me where? I double checked around all the lines and I don't see any [Ivystripe not signed in]

Yes I meant darken them. Make them stand out more. :3 20:31, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Mmk defined stripes, I also added a tad more shading to the tail. I still can't see any waste around the charart. 21:15, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Any suggestions? 01:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the white areas a bit. Define the patches a little more. Night shine  02:33, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 16:34, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

The only shading I see is on the back. The white areas seem to grayish. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:14, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

But I've been told to lighten it to this point, and her apprentice image looks like it hardly has any. I liked how it was before, but it has to match. 22:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

The more I look at this, the more I hate it. I might redo her fur, patches, and stripes, and just keep the shading. 23:11, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, instead of redoing this, can somebody help me fix the patches? I just don't think the color is right... 16:47, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I can help, if you'd like =) 23:16, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

What do you think needs to be fixed? 23:18, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

The patches just don't seem to match her other images. 23:57, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks to Wildheart :3 Thanks! 01:48, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

looks great! but darken the shading Sandstormrocks32 00:21, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, that looks awesome! But I think you should change the tabby stripes to spots, then blur them gently. That'll make it match the apprentice. Petalwhisker  Oh yeah, oh yeah...  00:45, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

I think its perfect just blur the earpink Wild  fire  20:43, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, I wouldn't change the tabby stripes. They're beautiful, and they match the apprentice version as well as they can without having seen that side of Ivypool. (I don't count the kit version, 'cause it doesn't match the apprentice version very well at all.) 23:22, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh god, I have to say her apprentice image is my least favorite out of all of my chararts. I think I abandoned it or withdrew it and it got accepted anyway. Honestly, I'd take out the furry pattern and leave the stripes the way they are. The apprentice image can be re-done in tweak week. Would that be OK with everyone? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:58, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Furry pattern? You mean the smudgies...? XD 04:02, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten her tail a little bit Sandstormrocks32 17:10, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

So, do I need to redo the patches then? 23:32, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Brook (KM)- For Approval
Comments? Ravensoul101 02:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger nad lighten it. Darken the shading and blur it. Darken the nose colour. Smudge the markings. Night shine  02:43, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Move the white pixel in her left eye, it makes her look kind of cross-eyed. Brighten the highlights a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:15, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Make it a darker colour. Also make the ear pink not reach to the tip of her fur. Even up the fur. E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:38, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

The markings on her flank could be smudged a little. Ivystripe 19:55, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Add shading under the chin and to the bends in her joints. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, darken it and make it triangular. 01:59, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes. 07:10, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a little cross eyed. 21:47, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a bit. 04:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't change the eyes, mainly because it's the same eye pattern that's on almost every queen. You guys must of been mistaking the gray for the white. Because of that, I darkened them a little. BTW, you don't have to repeat things. It can get annoying. Ravensoul101 15:07, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink/make it more visible. The stripes on the top of head head are blurry and messy. 17:58, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder. 22:05, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her back. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:10, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too greenish. Fix it, please. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:18, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticable and blur it. 23:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:39, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I'm currently in the hospital, recovering from a car accident. I won't be able to reupload anything until tomorrow, though, since my computer time is very limited. Ravensoul101 02:19, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ouch, get well soon! And blur the highlights. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:08, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more dark. Other then that it's a great charart of brook as a kit motherSandstormrocks32 23:17, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Could someone help me a tad with the blurring for the shading? Ravensoul101 02:26, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

I can, if you'd like. I can also blur the stripes a little while I'm at it.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:53, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the base coat, make the ear pink more visible and I think this will be ready! 17:55, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and change the pupils; right now she looks cross-eyed haha... wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:51, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink and fix the eyes. 23:12, April 27, 2011 (UTC)\

Please work on this or it will be declined Night  shine  00:50, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Raven's still working on this. His comp is having issues again, and it'll be a day or two before its fixed. 03:20, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

I can't work on this anymore. I just don't have time between school and my injury. Sorry. Ravensoul101 13:22, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I can take over. 13:23, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, fix the eyes, blur the shading and darken it, and define the earpink a bit. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:05, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, lighten it or redden it, darken and fix the eyes, and everything Wildheart said above. XD 21:28, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Just plain darken the earpink, mostly. I think it's nearly red enough. There's some gray lineart on the front paw furthest from us. It's some of the paw detail. Blur the shading on her back.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:01, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 18:02, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes don't match up with her warrior and loner images. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:17, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

They do. They're just a tiny bit larger. 01:11, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink and make the stripes smaller. }  wild    heart   ~    02:42, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly. 01:31, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think there's supposed to be mud on this, since its a kit-mother. 20:50, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 23:56, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. I'm re-doing her, and pixlr's been acting up... It'll be a few more days before I re-upload. Sorry. :P 03:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Since Frostheart agreed.. I decided to do it. I admit, this is the first one I've done from scratch. So, comments anyone? Cloud skye  16:46, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt color lighter and more brown. Make the earpink smaller and get rid of the blurred lineart on the ear. 20:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the highlights that leaked onto the lineart on the tail. 00:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. . . how do you not do a charart from scratch? o.o Anyways, the highlights are a but too bright and the ear pink is too big. 01:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means not having to copy the pattern of stripes or color from a previous charart of the same character. XD Anyways, nice job! Maybe make it just slightly closer to Sasha's color. Looks a bit too orange in my opinion right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Paleclaw, that's exactly right. And what I did was I used Sasha's coloring, since it says she's a tawny, but I darkened it ever so slightly. Re-uploaded. Does it look any better? As for the ear pink, I took it directly off of Sasha's rogue image, so I hope it works. Cloud skye  19:02, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights on the chest, haunch and tail; they are way too bright. 19:24, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and darken them. 20:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Cloudy! Center the earpink. 04:49, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Highlights darkened, blured and ear pink fixed. Comments? Cloud skye  12:40, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading, make the ear pink a little smaller. Night shine  01:00, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a tad more and add a clearer highlight to the top of the tail. 02:03, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Back shading blurred, ear pink fixed and I added a highlight to the tail. Cloud skye  12:47, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/lighten where the shading meets the highlights by the haunch on the back. 02:48, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading and darken highlights.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:12, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I suck at this, honestly. But does it look better? Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 18:25, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights have been blurred too much. Sometimes that happens; they get discoloured. You may want to choose a lighter shade of your pelt colour and pencil it over the highlights, then blur that, but right now they're turning greeny-gray XD --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

This is what happens when people tell me to blur to damn much. I'm just going to re-do this. Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 12:34, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I re-did the image. Jeez, this is an annoying color to work with. Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 12:58, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. 22:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm having ear pink issues. but anyways, Re-uploaded. Does it look any better at all? -- Cloud skye  12:46, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess. I can fix it for you if you want... 20:35, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the highlights and thin out the shading on the chest. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:42, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and if this is the tawny alternate, make this a little warmer in tone. Maybe a bit more yellowy-orange-ish. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:43, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

I took the color straight from Sasha, who is tawny colored. Re-uploaded. -- Cloud skye  16:06, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't look like Sasha's colour anymore. It looks like a sickly light brown. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   05:07, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm losing my mind trying to get this right. I re-did it, and this time, there is almost no shading. I had to darken my highlights though. -- Cloud skye  12:59, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart is a boy. Darken the ear pink. 19:53, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Not a boy, a tom. :P And the ear pink could be smaller. 22:31, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

And blurred. Where's your light source? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   23:49, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'm worried...bluefur and oakheart are both she-cats now, and they had kits....im really scared, change th gender from a she-cat to a tom. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 09:45, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink triangular and even. 17:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the lineart. I wasn't paying attention wehen I opened up the file. I fixed it and I'm working on the ear pink now. I'll have it up momentarily. -- Cloud <span style="color:#6C2DC7; font-size: 75%; font-family:Lucida Handwriting">skye 13:34, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Gender issue fixed and ear pink fixed. I was working on a laptop without a mouse when I did it the first time, so I had to re-do it. -- Cloud skye  16:18, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! The earpink still is hard to see. Darken it. 16:54, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit and darken the earpink.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:28, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Highlights/ear pink darkened. I won't darken the highlights anymore, because then it won't look like there is any there. -- Cloud skye  17:43, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The highlight on the shoulder looks like it's too high. Maybe move it down a bit if possible. And the ear looks like it either wasn't shaded, or it has a highlight on it, and I don't think there should be, so darken that. Otherwise, this looks GREAT! :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:07, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I fixed it. Does it look better? -- Cloud skye  12:26, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink more.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:51, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I won't darken it anymore. It'll turn purpleish. I think it's too dark to begin with, but, eh. Oh, well. -- Cloud skye  16:22, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and shading/highlights. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:56, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ear pink blured and shading/highlights. -- Cloud skye  17:21, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the pelt colour around the earpink and enlarge the highlights/thin out the shading. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   01:03, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Around the ear pink? Okay. I did what I could, although I don't really understand what you want done. Re-uploaded anyways. -- Cloud skye  19:06, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 22:32, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay. Better? -- Cloud skye  17:40, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Blur the shading. 23:23, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the earpink a tad more. 00:26, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay. I've blurred the shading about as much as Photoshop'll let me without killing the lineart. As for the ear pink, I also blurred it, but not a whole lot. -- Cloud skye  16:31, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. I don't see a light source in this. -- Night  shine  00:49, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Shrink the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and fix the eye lineart. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:08, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Whoops. I thought I fixed that. Sorry. As for light source, I really don't get what you mean. (*is confused*), and I shrunk the earpink as well.Re-uploaded -- Cloud skye  17:28, May 2, 2011 (UTC) I like the highlights--Sandstormrocks32 23:00, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno if the changes aren't showing or what, but the eyes still have two extra pixels. Check out an approved pic for a resource. Blur the shading/highlights. A light source helps you to gfigure out where your shading and highlights should go. In this case, you don't really have one, so your shading/highlights don't make a whol lot of sense. They're not terrible, but they're not exactly sensical either. I would recommend using this guide for shading. It always works for me. }  wild    heart   ~     01:54, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I started over, and used Nightshine's tutorial on shading. Does it look better? I must say, I really understand it a whole lot more since I read that. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 18:29, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, the changes aren't showing up on the page, but the actual file does show what I did. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 18:10, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

It looks a lot better :D Blur the highlights. 21:53, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks! I blurred what I could, and I also enlarged the ear pink every so slightly. It looked like nothing was there. xD -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:32, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the red waste around the fuzzy part of his chest. -- 16:28, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Blur the earpink and the shading/highlights. }  wild    heart   ~     01:26, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

@ Ivystripe: There is no red waste. I zoomed and everything, but I didn't see anything. And Re-uploaded. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well then it might just be my computer...-- 16:50, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and define the earpink a tad -- 16:52, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it look better now? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 17:06, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

This is too creamy, not tawny. And the highlights are blotchy. Oh, and if I mess up the page with this page, sorry, but my computer is messing up :P. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:23, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest taking the tawny color from one of the tawny alts, such as Birchfall, or Tawnypelt. 22:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's still red waste. I can see it. I'll fix it for you, if you want. And do not take the tawny colour from Tawnypelt's alt. She is WAY too ginger, but nobody corrected it because Bramble approved it without the CBA process. Blur the shading significantly. My offer still stands. }  wild    heart   ~     02:52, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about the "offer" comment. I offered to blur a charart for somebody, and I thought it was you, but apparently not haha.... Anyway, I'll blur it for you if you'd like. }  wild    heart   ~     03:00, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart, please. HELP. I'm having so many issues with this cat, but I'm not thinking of withdrawing it. I'd rather get help instead of messing it up even more. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 12:20, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get right on it. Do you use layers? If so, please email me the image (my email is on my userpage), and I'll do it that way. If not, I'll just download the image myself, and fix it as it is. 01:58, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ...I got bored XD I had to tweak the shading and highlights to get them to match in intensity, so I didn't just blur. I hope you don't mind. 04:26, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! It looks wonderful. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 12:50, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I'm glad I could help! =) 06:56, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

This doesn't look tawny anymore. It's more of a cream colour now. Make it more tawny-ish. Other than that, the shading and ear pink are perfect. -- Night  shine  21:24, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Splash (PH) - For Approval
Splash as a Prey Hunter. Comments? Leopardclawxx 09:25, April 6, 2011 (UTC)



Blur the stripes, add shading to the jaw, and add mud streaks. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 12:29, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes more like his To-be image. Crystalstar999 13:47, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Match the colors on the to-be image, and its a her, Crystalstar. XD 20:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I've redone the pelt colours and adjusted some of the stripes. I've also redone the shading and added mud streaks. Anything else that needs changing? Leopardclawxx 06:29, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

The colours and stripes still seem way off to me, copy the pattern off her to-be image and colour pick off it too. Do i see blurred lineart along the top of the head and on the ear? 22:33, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink and add/darken the shading on the haunch and beneath the tail. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:58, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I've just started it again,basically. I've copied the stripes as best as I could from the to-be image and colour picked from it too. Comments?? Leopardclawxx 07:45, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The darker brown (mud, I presume?) could be a little more blurred. I really like this though :) 19:38, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think that looks better. I've smudged the mud streaks. Comments?? 20:00, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The mud could be blurred instead of smudged. It looks like part of the pelt.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:34, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:42, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes a bit, lighten the ear pink, darken the shading. Night shine  00:22, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 10:10, April 10, 2011 (UTC)\

The bottom of the ear pink looks unfinished, and add/ define the shading near his forepaw and head. I really like how you did the stripes though, amazing! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 03:29, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? 06:28, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a bit. This is lovely. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:50, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think this is better. Comments please? 06:14, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe even a bit more... =P  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   06:16, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Happy now? :) 06:24, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yup. Haha. Except maybe brighten the earpink a little more... haha just kidding. Go comment on my pic? =P  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   06:26, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

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Lighten the brown area, her to-be image is paler than this one. Night shine  22:40, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 19:04, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:07, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mud streaks, its hard to tell where the stripes are and where the mud streaks are Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:50, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm back! I've defined the mudstreaks and improved the earpink. Do you like the light image (Left) or really light image (right) best? Comments please? Leopard claw xx  WindClan forever! 15:15, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I like the right. It looks better and makes the mud streaks stand out more. But both are OK... Amberfire3, RAVENCLAW!!!! <font color="gray" style="background:blue;border:2px dotted">Smartypants!!! Luna is awesome!  03:59, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think you're right, Amberfire. So, comments on this one, please? Leopard claw xx  WindClan forever! 09:43, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 23:25, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading needs defined a little bit. I really like this! 00:23, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded   Leopard claw xx   WindClan forever! 16:18, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes and smudge the mud streaks. Night shine  00:48, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the mud streaks to make them blend into the fur. 19:49, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the face highlight. 02:00, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redone (Again). Leopard claw xx  WindClan forever! 17:11, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

It's beautiful. Blur and enlarge the earpink and it'll be perfect ;D   }   wild    heart   ~    01:48, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded   Leopard claw xx   WindClan forever! 18:35, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little more. Night shine  06:04, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

This is great! Redden the earpink. 21:31, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Leopard claw xx   WindClan forever! 17:11, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. }  wild    heart   ~    02:09, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded   Leopard claw xx   WindClan forever! 15:00, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

There's a tiny bit of blurred lineart in the ear. Fix that. }  wild    heart   ~    05:09, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed. Am I going to have to delete this so I can use the new prey hunter line art or will I be able to put the new head on or something? (I really like my image : Leopard claw  Eyes watching in the Dark…  17:28, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Do you use layers? Even if you don't, you don't have to redo it. I can save it and then paste it onto the new lineart. Or you could learn how to do it. Either way. }  wild    heart   ~    02:57, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Could you do that for me please, Wildheart? Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark… 05:42, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Of course. We'll have a lead archive this (for extra space) and I'd suggest renewing your claim to this pixel on the reservations table, so nobody forgets this image belongs to you. I'll save a copy of the pic to my computer, and then paste it onto the new lineart as soon as Nighshine finishes it/gets it approved. By the way, there's something up with your siggie. Perhaps check it for extra spaces. 05:54, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I think I've fixed my sig... Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  06:11, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to the bearer of bad news, but since we're changing the Prey-hunter blanks, this will be declined. Keep this reserved though so you still have claim to it, you'll just have to do it again... Probably change the date of reservation too. May StarClan light your path. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 14:50, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval


My first image! Anyways, comments? 12:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights Crystalstar999 15:10, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the little shading outline lots, add highlights to the back, head and tail, add shading to the legs. 19:34, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

There is shading on the legs xD Nevermind! But you know what I mean XD 19:36, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Blur the highlights, redden, enlarge and center the ear pink. 22:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and title this Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval...nvm, I'll do it XD 22:11, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the ear-pink, and add a highlight to his face. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:54, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the neck and belly and thicken it. Fix the blurred ear lineart. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:02, April 7, 2011 (UTC

With request from Willow, I am going to help with this image. ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 11:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 04:35, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading tons, add highlights, and enlarge earpink.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading Night  shine  00:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:14, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I can work on it now. Thanks anyways Yatz. BTW Can somebody give me a color for the earpink? 12:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

You can use this chart to determine the earpink colour:  15:34, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

and blur the highlights. 00:02, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the neck and the belly and blur it. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and blur it tons. 20:00, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Could somebody help me on this? Because I'm confused. Some people said to darken the shading and then suddenly another person says to lighten it. 10:39, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say lighten it, but if you followed this guide for shading the image would be a lot better =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   00:04, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

you can also blur the shading so that it flows from light to dark/ light to dark. Also redden the ear pink just a tad, if your not scrutinizing it, then it can disappear to the viewer. Amazing work Willowwhisper! (and great name!) <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 23:06, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Atelda! =) Could anybody help me fix the shading? I tried it, and it looked horrible. 11:49, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help with the shading. Night shine  22:30, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I tweaked the shading and ear pink. Night shine  22:38, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nightshine! It looks awesome! 03:08, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the shading a bit. 19:10, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:02, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Should I sill blur the shading more? 10:34, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Willow! 10:52, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, blur the shading a bit more, as well as the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:03, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Sorry I haven't been able to work on this. My grandma died suddenly a few days ago, and now my dad is at the hopital because of a car accident. Anyways...comments? 12:09, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Why does everybody on this wiki have bad luck? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:11, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good the only thing is you might want to make the earpink smaller and blur it more Wild  fire  01:46, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I keep blurring the shading, but it doesn't look any different! Can someone help me on it again? 11:20, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'll blur it for you! 20:44, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I re-uploaded it for you, but the changes might not be showing yet. 21:00, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, my computer isn't working very well. Here it is with the shading blurred. 21:10, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be a tad bit brighter 00:21, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the ear pink needs to be a bit darker. If you lighten it then it will be even harder to see. Smudge the shading all around. Darken the shading. Night shine  00:47, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

You should also add a little shading to the tail, otherwise it looks great At  el  da  03:12, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

So...let me get this straight. Darken the shading,darken the earpink, and smudge the shading. Is that right? 11:03, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

LOOKS AWESOME! Apart from the fact that I can barely see the earpink. Darken that a tad, Willowwhisper. Darken the eye colour a tad, too. Only a tiny bit. It's a TINY bit more pale than before, and it had a hint of green to it and my first glance. Take a look at my first Charart(for PCA). It's Stormfur's prey hunter image. Mine sucks!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:13, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Don't critisize your own charart XD And define the earpink. 22:48, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How does it look? 11:51, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton and blur the earpink. :3 20:27, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred it as much as I could. 08:43, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the ear and right side of the head. Do you need help blurring the shading? Because it is still sorely in need of blurring. }  wild    heart   ~    05:12, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

If there are highlights, they are blotchy and need to be blurred and brightened. The shading needs to be blurred too. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:28, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the shading needs to be really blurred. The earpink should be a little smaller and lighter. 20:45, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Argh! I need help again. Please? 11:36, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I help you blur it if you add the shading first. Do you use GIMP or pixlr? 06:59, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

If you need blurring help, I can do it for you. 02:44, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I use pixlr, and I did add shading.... 08:32, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Toadstep (A)- For Approval
My first charart in a long time. I'm not sure I like it though x3. Darkhallows... Mew? 08:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Needs highlights. The spots look good to me, but I'd have to look at his other images to be sure. 209.34.114.210 13:53, April 7, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Blur the smudges. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:34, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

On his other images his entire back is black and he has a black chest, and the markings are smudged which they shouldn't be - his other chararts are not smudged either. And I see you made his eye blue, it should be green. The ear pink is rather small and needs darkening, and I don't see much shading. 22:26, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Only half his chest is black. Remember, this is a different angle than the other images. As far as I'm aware, a slight texture difference is okay. Admittedly, I tried a new style, it seems I should have stuck with my old one :/. It's alright, I'm going to redo this, in the long run I think that will be easiest. Also, his page said blue eyes, but that's removed now. Darkhallows... Mew? 01:22, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I personally think the tail is too solid black. If you added a white tip or a stretch of white somewhere, I think it would look better. :) Same thing with the back foot; it looks way too dark to me. 01:59, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the smudging is okay. It needs to be consistent. It's really more like three quarters of his chest. . . I removed blue eyes because it was false. And the black back still needs to be one piece too. 03:23, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Redone. '''I feel weird not doing my smudgeys Dx. Darkhallows... Mew? 08:03, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! Blur the black on his flank a bit more, darken the shading on the shoulders, brighten the ear-pink a tad, and darken the shading under the chin and by his jaw. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:08, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! The earpink could be a bit redder.

Hey, my internet is out, and I'll be gone for a few days. I exist, though!184.11.129.18 03:49, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:55, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Internet = back on! Reuploaded Darkhallows... Enter the cave? 11:22, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the haunch highlight. 16:47, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded but I couldn't blur it much more. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 17:14, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! If possible, add highlights to the tail...it might be highlighted already, just hard to see... 17:23, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

define the ear-pink a bit more. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:39, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:32, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 10:51, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

On the back foot there are some lighter pixels, get rid of those and this will be ready. Night shine  00:08, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. Darkhallows  Enter the cave?  02:27, April 21, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur the markings, darken the black, and make the ear pink larger. 06:14, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink, and fix the faded pixels on the hind leg. This is lovely =3  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 03:02, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and fill in that white spot on his belly. That's supposed to be part of the cat lol  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:17, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink larger and a bit redder. 23:30, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. 00:46, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''sorry for the wait. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 17:33, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Fill in the white pixels on his belly. They're part of the cat =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    03:17, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I have... none of the changes I did earlier are showing up yet Dx Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 04:26, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh... oops! Sorry, then. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 04:43, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I still can't see the changes. Perhaps reupload it again? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:42, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Finally showing up :D. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 02:18, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading just a little bit. }  wild    heart   ~    05:16, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Done Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 04:10, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Whispering Breeze (Alt. SC)~For Approval
I really like this one! :) Comments? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:51, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, this is amazing! :) The ear pink looks a little unnatural because there's too much contrast between the area of high concentration and low concentration. Try blurring it a tad more. You also might want to darken the shading or brighten the highlights. 01:55, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. And try filling in a little more of the ear if possible. I would possible also blur the stripes all together because at times it seems defined as two layers. The dots on the side of the head could also be blurred so it blends better with the shade of the head. Nice job! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 02:00, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done. The two-toned stripe pattern was getting on my nerves, so I did it over. Comments? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:58, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Still very nice. Blur the stripes on the face and the shading. 03:01, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)I hate to say this but, with Broken Shadow she was described as tabby and it was added to her appearance instead of her getting an alt. I don't think we need this. Her image just needs to be tweaked. 03:20, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I can see reason in what you're saying, Mossy. But Night Shine put it in her trivia, so I think she should get an alt. And if we find it unneeded, it can be deleted. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure tabby was in Broken Shadow's trivia at one point and anyways, Nightshine isn't always right. XD That has nothing to do with it. So we should approve an image that probably won't be needed later? We should deal with it now, not just put it off until after the image is approved. 07:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I like this. Define the stripes. -- 21:57, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:21, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can you actually read and listen to what I'm saying? It's really annoying and rude when you just ignore me like that. 23:33, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I did read it. But until I get a final verdict, I'm gonna keep working. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:35, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * But you didn't even do anything, or say a word. Ask someone about it. If you just leave it no one's gonna do anything. 23:49, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well I think since it was a one time mistake in pelt colour, she should get an alternate for it. -- Night  shine  00:17, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'll also ask Frosty. Anyone else you think? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:22, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good art, but I think the stripes should be added in the next tweek week. -Sunheart- 00:50, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Tabby was only said one time for Broken Shadow and her image is just being tweaked. 05:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * So this is declined? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 16:05, April 10, 2011 (UTC)+

Nope, it'll stay. -- 17:27, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, on IRC I talked with Frostheart and we decided that Broken Shadow should just get an alt, too. And the stripes taken off her image. 18:32, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay! Thank you both! :) <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 18:57, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks beautiful:) Darken the belly. 01:24, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:22, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are pretty blurry, and maybe add a few more. And this is just a suggestion, but maybe the tail stripes should start out silver instead of gray because it looks awkward the way it is right now. It looks great otherwise. 03:36, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I was only able to add in two stripes, but if anyone thinks i should add more, i may just change the pattern. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:13, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I love the pattern! Don't change it =) Maybe sharpen the stripes on her face a bit, as they're too round to match the sharp edges of the other stripes. --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:22, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a tad. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 22:43, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:14, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe add another marking (or markings, if you can fit more than one) on to the other side of her face. It looks a bit empty... By the way, this is lovely =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 08:05, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Looks awesome! Blur the earpink a bit. 22:02, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:45, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like there is some blurred lineart on the tail. Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  22:18, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:14, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the face stripes a bit more.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:38, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:47, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes on the face still look like they should be.... pointier? Maybe just make the ends of them sharper. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 03:02, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

you could also make the stripes on the face fit the stripes on the body and like Paleclaw said, make them pointier, great job, it's amazing! At el  da  01:31, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about the stripes. . . while the pattern is pretty, they're random and scant. Move the ear pink down a touch in its ear. 03:07, April 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you mean the stripes on the body, head, or all of them? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:51, April 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * All of them. 02:07, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * So you think I should re-do it? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:25, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by "random and scant"? Darken the shading. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:33, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I actually like the markings. They look pretty! And I can't see much wrong with this, just do what Wildheart said, darken the shading. Amberfire3, RAVENCLAW!!!! <font color="gray" style="background:blue;border:2px dotted">Smartypants!!! Luna is awesome! 01:40, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Still waiting to here others' opinions on stripe pattern. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:02, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripes look fine like that, but the earpink could be blurred a bit more. 23:34, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe the grey around the ear pink could be defined more, I'm not sure. Other than that I really don't see much more you could do with this, it's very nice! 00:16, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:22, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Waiting for changes to show. Fixed a couple things that were bothering me. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:06, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good other than the ear pink needs to be reddened Sandstormrocks32 03:25, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:50, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a little bit more, blur it, and sharpen the stripe on the front right leg. This is very nice =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    05:46, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I've been having problems with changes showing so sorry about re-uploading this so many times. XP <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:42, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Add a few small stripes on the torso. Night shine  06:00, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:42, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the almost-white bits on the shoulder and leg and blur the stripes. }  wild    heart   ~    02:13, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Blurred the white parts but kept the blurring of the stripes to a minimum. If I blur them too much, they look kinda messy... <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:41, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the earpink a lot. It's too hot pink =P   }   wild    heart   ~    02:48, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:51, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

This is lovely, I see nothing wrong. }  wild    heart   ~    05:22, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the hind leg closest to us looks lumpy, blur it some. 20:28, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:14, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? 01:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with it, lovely job, Scarletwind! Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 18:27, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Cloud With Star in Belly-For approval
Comments? 21:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... This is supposed to be up in the "Images Pending Aproval" section, not the discussion area. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 17:36, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved this for you. I think you shold blur the shading down his back a more. Leopardclawxx 19:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little bit, it kinda extends below the ear a little bit. Make it a tad bit smaller 19:27, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Cloud (Star).elder.png. Cloud (Storm) and Cloud (Star) are not the same cats. 19:40, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, actually, they are. Think about it. The Erins wouldn't make a Tribe elder with a name so similar to another Tribe elders' name from a different book. I'm sure it was just a typo. - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, I just read the article in the discussion section XP - G  inger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:08, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, one of the good ol' characters. This is however, wonderful. Make the ear pink a bit more...well, matching the gray pelt. Add shading to the chest and forehead. And, add shading around the haunch if you aren't going to add highlights. -- 02:20, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * The heading should also be changed, just so people don't get confused. XP I agree that Cloud with Star in Belly is a different cat from Cloud with Storm in Belly, and besides, if it wasn't this would be declined. Cloud with Storm in Belly already has an elder image. Darken the shading just slightly. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. 09:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is thick and blotchy, thin it out and blur it, and make the ear pink fit the ear, it's a bit messy. 17:38, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the shading thinner, add some to the chest, legs, muzzle, and paws. -- 19:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Redo the entire image because it would be easier, and use the apprentice tutorials to help you. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  02:09, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ummm..guys, if you looked on the table, you would see that I already reserved this. Whats going on?
 * 19:47, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lightningstar, you did have this reserved. But you reserved it on the same day this was put up. I say this be declined and you work on it, but its up to the senior warrirors. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  22:07, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 19:47, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lightningstar, you did have this reserved. But you reserved it on the same day this was put up. I say this be declined and you work on it, but its up to the senior warrirors. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  22:07, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... who reserved it first? Because it goes to them. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   00:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well... I think i reserved t, did the charart, put it up, got off of my comp. and then whoever did the charart uploaded it and didnt see if anyome reserved it. 18:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I looked through the edit history and The Gost actually reserved it first. Sorry Lightningstar. Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  22:17, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 08:49, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:34, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 19:26, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ummmmmmmmmm, no, they did Cloud with STORM in belly ALT. ELDER. I did this.

20:15, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, since they are different cats, there should be one for each, since they were both mentioned as pale gray. 16:37, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Cloud With Storm in Belly was described as white. Try to make the earpink more triangular. 21:06, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink a tad more too. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:35, April 19, 2011 (UTC) URGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!! Who is doing this, me or them???????? LightningStar of ThunderClan (not logged in) XD

The Gost is doing this one, sorry. Night shine  00:08, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink also looks a tad unnatural. I mean like shade it in the direction of the ear and it goes a tad to far down. when you smudge or blur the earpink make sure you get the bottem, and smudge it to the tip of the ear. otherwise great job, love it! At el  da  01:34, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Two things

1. I put this up FIRST, and that is My image.

2.The Gost is doing Cloud with STORM in Belly Alt.E, not Cloud with Star in Belly

Lightningstar

It doesn't matter who put it up first, but you're right, you did reserve it. Sorry, The Gost, but this is Lightningstar's. Anyway, Lightningstar, please sign with four ~'s when you're on talk pages. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:30, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lightningstar, are you still working on this? If so, redden the earpink. 22:42, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

De-thumb it, and she was just described as a pale grey cat, not sure why you added those on the back. I can't see any shading on this. 23:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dethumbed. Make it a solid colored cat, she was never described as a tabby. 23:16, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

And perhaps blur the bottem of the earpink some more, and to bring out the shading, you should darken a few places just a little bit, so you don't over do it. At el  da  22:26, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

The things on the back seemed out of place... Sandstormrocks32 03:27, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading and highlights and brighten the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:14, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? Its been a week. 21:46, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, and the person who was working on it first (even though they didn't reserve it first) was putting effort into it. No offense intended ^^; 20:31, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, i will put up the new version in about 3 days time (sooner). Lightningstar (not logged in xD)

Are you still working on this? Because it's been three days. }  wild    heart   ~    05:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

May I work on this?

/\ was me Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 09:00, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's been 12 days since Lightningstar reuploaded it. So I believe so. If you do, make this accurate(like, why are those gray lumps there?) <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:52, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think they were supposed to be stripes, but she is a solid colored cat, so remove them, and add highlights. 22:06, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt solid, add highlights and shading, and lighten the earpink Wild  fire  22:13, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Been working on it for 5 days. XD 00:51, May 13, 2011 (UTC) If the shading needs work, i cant get it right (GIMP screwed up) Can someone do it?

What's up with the shading? and did somebody upload it on thier page? Sandstormrocks32 01:09, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

I can help you with the shading if you want me to. 01:51, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Dethumbed. No, Ivystripe, don't help yet. I know GIMP, and I know it can't screw it up that bad. All you need to do is try again with a lighter coloured earpink, and fix the shading so it looks more like the redline on this tutorial. You can also find an earpink chart at the link I gave you. When you're blurring the shading, put the blur tool on 100% and go over it several times. If it's still not good enough, which it shouldn't be, then you can ask Ivystripe (or whomever you wish to ask) for help blurring. I hope I helped. 06:21, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thnks ivy and wildheart! Lightningstar (not logged in)

You're welcome. That's ok, but if you're still having trouble, just ask and I'll try to help :) 16:34, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I just want your charart to be your own, not someone else's =) 00:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC

That is about as well as I can shade. Can someone help? D: 19:57, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help one sec... At el  da  20:25, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so all I did was smooth out the shading shading, you might also want to make the earpink more rounded on the angles. and lighter. At el  da  22:08, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I dethumbed it and do more hightlights 22:11, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs more blurring. Sandstormrocks: highlights are optional. Fill in those light pixels on the far ear. Much better, Lightningstar. 22:23, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Stoneteller (Ancient) - For Approval
I worked on this for days and it still looks like crap. xD Constructments? 18:27, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

What? Nonsense. It looks great. Just add highlights to the eyes and herbs. 18:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten her fur, it looks more silver than white. -- 18:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 19:14, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Half Moon, I presume? Anyways, it's good. Make the earpink darker, and that's pretty much all I see. -- 19:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job, I don't see anything that could be fixed. 20:13, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I belive the herbs can be shaded a but mroe detailed. Fea ther  20:18, April 9, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Darken the shading under the chin and lighten the ear-pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading near the front left and back left legs maybe, to give it more depth. (Our left xD) This is beautiful. 8D 23:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's also a gray line under the tail. 00:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

There is a border of colour out of the line art around the tail and base of the tail. Darken the ear pink as well. Night shine  00:14, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Is it supposed to have mud? 21:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, because healers never leave the cave. 00:43, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten this a bunch. Still looks silver instead of white. This is good. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:48, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Please don't comment about the colour around the lineart, I'll get rid of it when the image goes on CBA. 22:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it some more. Where's your light source? --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:56, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a touch. This is epically, awesomely beautiful, Mossy :D  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:29, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Lighten the shading a tad bit around the back, belly, and front paws. Koisplash 07:40, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

It's been a while. You still working on this...? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:01, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I just wasn't getting many comments and had a lot of schoolwork so I figured it could wait. :P Now I have ten days off school!~ I think the shading it blurred enough, I lightened it a wee touch. 03:05, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it some more. It's beautiful, but the shading is really dark so it looks like she is a light gray cat. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:07, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

It may be just me, but it looks like the line art on the bottem of the tail has something odd going on about it, but that may be just me, and like wildheart said lighten the shading more, otherwise i think it looks amazing! At el  da  21:45, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, just to clear things up, I didn't mean lighten the shading, I meant lighten the entire image. Unless you want to lighten the shading.... but I kind of think that's more work XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:22, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the base of the tail. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:02, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like on the tail part thee is some shading outside of the charart. 00:14, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the image just a tad more. 01:08, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

You know guys. . . I can't lighten the whole image. xD It's like almost pure white. :P I can only lighten the shading, but I personally think it's light enough. And Ivystripe and Atelda, I already said I would erase that after it got on CBA. 02:13, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Just brighten the highlights and darken the shading a tiny bit then this will be ready. Night shine  00:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry I haven't been on much, I got sick and I didn't feel like doing anything productive. xD 21:47, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Uh...she's glowing with a beautiful silver light XD might want to fix that though I find it awesome.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:26, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shimmerpool: Mossy said she'll erase it when the image goes on CBA :3 04:29, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it a bit more, it still looks silver to me. 22:55, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading or make the patch of shading on her legs that's darker than the rest lighter. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:33, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Does anybody see the "stuff" sround the charart or is that my computer bugging out? Sandstormrocks32 01:37, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

That's just the way she does her shading, and she says she'll erase it when the image goes on CBA. But honestly, Mossy? You should probably fix it now, because if you miss some later (when it's on CBA) nobody will be able to change it. }  wild    heart   ~    03:05, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart. . . I know what I'm doing. There are ways to make sure none is missed, I do it by using colour select. So please, everyone shut up about it! I'm getting people telling me to darken it and others telling me to lighten it, so I'm not doing anything. 00:29, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten her base color a tad, so she appears less silvery, and then darken the shading. 01:56, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't make any sense. Her pelt is white. I can't lighten it. 22:45, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

No, it's not. This image is really dark, for a white cat. 00:22, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

More hightlights on the haunch and the tail then it would look pretty good for the time being 21:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Snow Falling On Stones(TB)~For Approval
Okay, so here's Snow! Her eye was really hard to do. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Umm...it seems kind of small... Fix the ear pink. 22:51, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and move it to the right section XD 22:52, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'll fix the ear pink but...................................I don't know how to put it into the correct section. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Moved to the correct section. Blur the shading and tone down the highlights, they look too bright. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:53, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Why is it so small? It IS full size right? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:17, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't think its full size, and the background isn't clear, either. Did you use GIMP? 01:05, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

If this isn't full size, you might have to redo it :/ Did you get the full size of the to-be lineart? 01:06, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It looks as if you used the real color white to fill the image. If you do that its not right. Use very pale gray. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  02:11, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...................I'm pretty sure this is full-size, from what I got it at. I think it's small, too. I will delete the back-ground. No, I did not use GIMP; I used Photoshop, as that's all I have. Yes, I did use the real color white to fill the image, so I will put in pale grey instead. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

When you save it, click on it, then, click the mangenfier then is should have a full size image that looks like;

<-That (With out the thumbnail) Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:46, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I took off the thumbnail, so now you can use it. 21:50, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll redo it. Thanks for the blank, I thought the other one looked small. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

And rename this Snow.tb.png 02:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay, I TOTALLY redid her. Any better? Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Shading's pretty blotchy. Blur that and lighten the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   21:42, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And perhaps define the shading a little more once blurred. Blur the ear more after lightedning the earpink, Great job, It's going to be great! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 22:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay. Blurred shading more, lightened earpink. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Wow this looks great! Comments before approval? Night shine  22:13, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be blurred and darkened. 22:19, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

And there are a couple white pixels on the very bottom of her front paw (closest to us)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 08:13, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

I see them. Die, little white pixels! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 11px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:21, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Darkened and blurred shading. Also fixed the pixels. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 11px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Define the earpink. 19:29, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and are to-bes supposed to have mud? Just wondering... 19:31, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

No I don't think they are, but I'm not entirely sure. The ear pink looks fine to me, but the shading could be thickened a little. Night shine  05:27, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a bit light.... Are they supposed to be grey or did you forget to color them in? I've done that before. ^^; Maybe make them a different color like blue or something? They look too much like the pelt color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:48, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw; try darkening the eye color a bit so it's more visible. And try lightening and shading the paws a bit; they look sort of flat. Koisplash 07:42, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

No, the eyes are not grey; they're pale, pale green. And, no, to-bes don't have mud, but I can add it if you want. 21:35, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay, darkened eye-color and defined the shading. 21:25, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten the earpink a bit more. It's a wee bit hot pink right now XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:00, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be smudged just a tad like wildheart said, (i know, shading can be a bit difficult ;D) and it looks like there is a lot of dark to the shading, so perhaps you could lighten it just a little, It's really great, good job! At el  da  03:19, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice! Redden the earpink. 22:23, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it be declined. Night shine  00:42, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! I've been busy! Almost finished! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Re-uploaded: Sorry everyone! I've been busy lately! Is she any better? 22:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading then blur it. 23:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. 00:17, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the bottem of the tail a tad more. It looks amazing! At el  da  03:15, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

And redden the earpink a bit. 21:48, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? It's been over a week. If you are, the eye color could still use a little more brightening. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 17:11, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brightening, or darkening? I'd say it needs to be darkened, since it looks too pale. 20:40, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well it needs to stand out more. You could brighten it more (saturate it, and make it more intense) or you could darken it. Either way, it works. But if you are working on this, your uploads need to be more consistant. 23:29, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I know. I'm really sorry. Almost done. Now, how would someone with Photoshop brighten this image. I get where you're coming from, and I agree, but a few hints would be helpful. 01:13, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, scratch that. Sorry, I can't work on her anymore. It's the end of the school year, and I'm just too busy to focus on her. I wish I could, but I can't. I still want to be a member of PCA, just I'm a bit busy at the moment. 20:07, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

If Cardinalfire isn't working on this anymore, May I take over? 00:18, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sure. Night shine  19:59, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Great, thanks =) 22:50, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Her ear pink is very light and it looks like her eyes aren't coloured in. 02:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Before I re-upload this, does the previous charart need to be archived? Or do I continue off this? 17:28, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You can continue off this. 18:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bird That Rides the Wind (E)- For Approval
Gotta﻿ few things to say. I tried to make the stripes as consistent as possible. And I borrowed all the colors from Bird's rogue image. I'm proud of this. What do you guys think? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! The ear pink looks kind of blotchy, blur it more. 22:14, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Lighten the earpink and darken the shading/markings. Also blur the highlights. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   00:10, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

You should change this to grey-brown tabby. 17:23, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I'm not too sure that this should be gray-brown. Bird has always been gray tabby, I think she was mistakenly called gray-brown in SOTM. How's this? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  18:24, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

But then why is it on the top of the page, but not in the trivia? 21:27, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful, Mintstarr. Make the neck stripes pointier.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:33, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Changes aren't showing yet. Thanks Mistystar, Wildheart, and Mistfire. On the gray-brown, she was just a gray tabby in Moonrise and Outcast, so I kept it there. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:45, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! The earpink is a little blotchy, though. 16:32, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Should I redo the stripes? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:27, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, if you can fix them up as they are now then you won't have to redo it. You should try making the stripes look like the ones on her rogue image. Night shine  05:26, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very good! Blur the shading on her back; it sort of stands out too sharply against the pale gray. Koisplash 07:44, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I didn't change the stripes, but if they're too much of a problem, I will fix them. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:06, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripes need to be defined a little. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 18:35, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Which ones? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:30, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

All of them. Desaturate th earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:58, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

You could also smudget the highlighting so it looks more natural, and dont for get the tail for shading, nice job, love Half Moon, and the charart will make it even better! At el  da  23:04, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I think I just made it worse. I used the burn tool (pixlr users)/shading tools (GIMP and others). Is it okay? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  01:36, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

GIMP users have burn tools, too =P Darken the stripes some more, blur the shading, and sharpen the stripes. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:03, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- The stripes look really sloppy to me, I might just redo the whole image. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  15:00, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I did a new way to make the stripes. (Shading/highlights before stripes.) I think its better than the tutorials version. And I got the stripes darker, finally! <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  20:05, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Try to make the stripes on the haunch a bit thinner and let them curve a bit, they look a bit unnatural. Sharpen the points on the stripes near the head. Move the highlight on the face up a bit more so it touches the forehead, center the ear-pink and fix the blurred lineart in the ear. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:28, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- There is no blurred lineart in the ear, its part of a stripe and the ear pink is centered. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  17:34, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bottem of the earpink, and smudge the stripes just a bit, or you could blur them, whichever. And it seems like half the stripes are kind of boxy, and the other ones are pointed like triangles. It kind of looks off but that could be my opinion. It's just a thought, but it'll look great! At el  da  21:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes on the face should be a bit pointier. Nice work! 22:19, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- @Atelda, it is a tabby pattern, so its okay :). How's this? <span style="color:salmon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:maroon;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:saffr;">MINTSTARR  I need a new siggie!  00:19, April 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think it's better. CBA? -- 21:46, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Really sorry to interrupt CBA, but the earpink seems a bit blotchy, and the lineart there is blurred. Fix that, and I think its ready! 22:29, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think it only looks blotchy because that is a stripe, not blurred lineart. But I'll change it. From here on out, that isn't blurred lineart, it is a stripe. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:45, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. and make the earpink neater and smaller. 00:48, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- If this shows up twice, my computer is messing up. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  01:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading a bit. 21:06, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes a bit so they look a bit more like her Cavegaurd image. Otherwise, nice job! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:37, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading needs to be defined a bit, and maybe add highlights, or if there are, define them a little. Also, the ear pink looks weird. Make it closer to the right side of the ear, or just look at the placement of an accepted image. I hope I helped. 00:13, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- The shading is fine. And there are highlights, and they look okay to me too (I did blur them.) And on the ear I added a stripe there. I was told to darken the stripes so I don't know. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  22:01, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see any shading on the stripes. The stripes are a lot darker than the ones on her other images, so lighten them. Thin out the stripes and add more. Darken the shading. Make the ear pink triangular. Night shine  00:41, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Make the two stripes on the head a tad shorter and give a point to them. 22:49, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't like anything about this image, especially the haunch stripes. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:11, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes a lot. Right now they don't really match her cave guard image, so tweak them a bit so they do. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:26, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- the changes haven't been showing for both images (most recent two.) <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  19:49, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I didn't like that image, so I fixed it up. I hope you guys like the stripes. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  20:38, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

They're pretty good ;D Add highlights to the tail. 22:07, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like some of the stripes were drawn over the hightlights, so can you try and fix that? Other than that it looks great. ^^ 22:20, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

There are highlights on the tail. And originally, I had the highlights over the stripes, but everyone was telling me to define the stripes. I filled it in with gray, drew the stripes, highlighted it, then shaded it, and added earpink and eye color like the tutorials say to, but the shading darkend some of the stripes and the tips were brightend by the highlights. It's a confusing mess but that's why I drew the stripes over the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:55, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad. Apart from that, it looks good!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:11, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

The single stripe on the head looks kind of out of place.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 15:53, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw on that. Could another one or two be added? Like, by the eyes, perhaps? It's possible to do. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 19:06, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- ^^Fail. No, that isn't blurred lineart by the eyes. Adding one stripe was actually very hard, and making it curve was harder. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:12, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

It looks really good, even if it was hard. Job well done. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:32, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

It has been five days since I reuploaded it. CBA? No, I'm not a lead. sigh... comments? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:49, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think its good, but wait for a lead to CBA it. ;D 22:09, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think you need to redo the stripes. Right now they're too dark and don't really match her caveguard image. I hate to be the one to say it, but somebody has to. 23:34, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Those are the stripes on her rogue image. The caveguard has too much mud to tell what the stripe pattern is except on the haunch. I'll redo them, but they won't be caveguard stripes. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  01:25, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

By what I can see, the stripes on her cave-guard image are kind of wavy. 02:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I think I forgot something. 75.91.242.179 19:49, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:51, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes along her back. 22:58, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are still too dark, and the stripes still don't match. Do you want me to put up a redline? =) 00:32, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You can if you want to, but I don't see I can't use her rogue image. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:06, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ice (Lo) - For Approval
I'm not so sure about the collar. Comments? 14:55, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken his ear pink, blur and darken shading, and his collar looks stuck to his neck. It should stick out a bit. 20:10, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely work! Maybe make the teeth a bit bigger. Should he have claws like in scourge's rouge version, since bloodclan cats have their claws re-enforced with dogs' teeth? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:14, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know. 20:17, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:20, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink, blur the shading, and add/darken it on the back part of the right foreleg. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:22, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:04, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. . . he doesn't get a collar, because he wasn't a BloodClan cat when he was a loner. 00:44, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

But he can't really take it off.... And plus Snake got a collar on his Loner image. Good job on this! maybe blur the shading a bit more. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:33, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:11, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, blur the pelt. 22:04, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred the shading A LOT 22:50, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a lot. This is nice =P  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:25, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 14:38, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I blurred it too much. 20:31, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Define the earpink, redden it. 21:56, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

The collar needs shading, make the ear pink a little more noticeable. It kinds of blends in with his fur color. 01:12, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink perhaps, and put some shading on the tail and possibly the legs. Nice job :) 184.96.25.37 03:03, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened the earpink a little, but I'm not gonna change it because I took it from his rogue image. There was collar shading, but it wasn't noticeable. 17:19, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. 23:37, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Also, define the earpink. 01:05, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:14, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink needs to be a bit smaller, it's almost filling the ear right now. Also, the back shading's a bit thick and needs to be blurred more. Otherwise, it looks good! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:09, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think the earpink is fine. And this charart looks horrible to me. 18:50, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine, but for some reason the shading still looks odd. It somewhat looks like around the lighter shading, there is a darker shade and then it lightens ups around that. I would smudge the shading or possible redo the shading, just the shading, other than that it looks great! At el  da  01:07, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redone. 02:55, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and brighten it. Enlarge the highlights or thin out the shading so it looks closer to this shading redline and then blur it. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:59, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I actually redid this, but the changes aren't showing. 16:26, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Try reuploading it again. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:30, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I did, but the previous upload turned to the redone version. o_o 00:55, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oh that's happened to me quite a few times. It may take a while for it to show the version you need, so just be patient. I think one time it took about a day for it to show the new version. 19:55, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I know what to do. It's just been a long time... or not 21:51, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 22:04, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Here's the redone version, if anyone wants to see: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110430025306/warriors/images/archive/a/ac/20110502005455!Ice.loner.png 00:47, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

The redone one looks wonderful! Perhaps redden the earpik and it looks almost like it goes all the way down to his eye, so possibly fix that. Define the shading just a tad on his body, and add shading on his tail and legs. It looks amazing!! At el  da  03:21, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There is shading on the tail and legs. And I am not changing the earpink. 23:04, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading. Redden the earpink and make it smaller. Why won't you change it? }  wild    heart   ~    03:34, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took the earpink from his rogue image, and it doesn't make any sense to me to have two different earpink colours. And NOW the changes show. 21:41, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you can take the earpink from his kit image (I made that xD), I think the earpink on the kit charart looks better. :P 21:59, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

If you say so... 00:42, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:44, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and either extend it up the flank a little, or add some shading at the along its back. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 02:23, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:49, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the teeth on the collar and blur the shading. It might help to look at this redline 'cause the shading is kind of non-sensical right now XD   }   wild    heart   ~    05:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and make the earpink smaller. }  wild    heart   ~    05:37, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shading ffffaaaaailll 17:30, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the shading, and possibly add highlights (I'm such a sucker for them xD) 19:42, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights, blur the shading, and that box of shading isn't anything you'll see on cats, so fix that please. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid this again, but the changes aren't showing. 23:55, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it's fine. 23:56, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading alot. Also, blur the earpink and make it lighter. <span style="color:red;font-family:Segoe Script;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:43, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading on the tail. 22:10, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:26, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the back legs, please. It looks wayyyyyyy to dark. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 17:40, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:11, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Looks much better. Can you blur just a tad where the shading and pelt color meet (on the haunch)? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:29, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:02, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur where the shading and pelt colour meet on the haunch, and darken the shading on the middle of the belly. 00:53, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:02, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Cloudy Sun (SC) - For Approval
Here she is. She was described as a sharpclaw when Jayfeather (or maybe Jaypaw idk) saw her in StarClan, so don't be all "she was only seen as an elder!" XD Comments? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 06:32, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Blur the shading, and darken the ear pink a tad bit. Where's your light source coming from? Koisplash 08:25, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, take the ear pink color from her elder image, or if you already have, darken the ear pink by burning it slightly. The tail shading and highlights could be defined a little as well. Nice job, I like this! 16:34, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Its great! define the earpink and blur the highlights. 22:01, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Was she even seen in StarClan? 22:09, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oops! Sorry, I didn't mean StarClan. I meant when Jayfeather comes back from the past, and he grabs the Stick and he sees the sharpclaws. It's in Long Shadows... Anyway, thank you for all the compliments. =D Comments? }  wild    heart   ~    00:18, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, okay, I'll check my copy. Maybe blur the stripes a little. 00:50, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

This is loverly XD Blur a little more on the back where it is shaded :3 00:55, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. It looks great. ^.^ 01:17, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Are thoose little suggigily lines supposed to be on only the haunch and legs and face? Sandstormrocks32 00:00, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, her elder image has them so she should have them on her sharpclaw image as well. 00:27, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed everything, but I'm still having issues with the changes showing (like everyone else) so be patient. @Sandstormrocks: it's called a tabby point. They're like Siamese cats, except with tabby stripes instead of dark colour =) @Splashpelt: LOVERLY, EH? 8D   }   wild    heart   ~    04:38, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look a little too bright, but did you do that since in her elder image, her stripes were faded? I think they should be a tad bit lighter. 20:35, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make the stripes a bit thicker. Darken the shading. 17:37, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlight on the face a tad. Looks beautiful! :) <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 19:00, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly a tad. Yus, this is loverly ;) 01:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks you guys. @Scarletwind: I actually don't have any highlights, so I just darkened the shading a bit. Comments? }  wild    heart   ~    04:56, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. This is beautiful! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 17:25, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink a bit more and blur the shading on the back. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:42, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I reuploaded this and didn't say so. I forgot XD Comments? 06:09, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

This. Is. So. Cool! Oh, and the markings on the face, next to the left eye... They're not like the others... You know how the other markings are coming from the lineart? Those two aren't. Is it supposed to be like that? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:35, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Awe, thanks, Cloudskye! I just copied the style from the elder image, so idk. 00:50, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

It looks very flat. Darken the shading a lot. 02:14, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Barley (K) ~ For Approval


My other charart was technically approved, so I'm going to do this one. Comments? 22:14, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, got through the first day without comments...is that good or bad? XD 21:45, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't there a kit barley already up somewhere on this page? Sandstormrocks32 22:53, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

No, there was, but it was declined, and no one else has reserved it. 22:56, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, Mistystar. But, can you blur where the black meets the white a little more (mostly around the chest area)? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫

Re-Uploaded. 04:06, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, blur, lighten, and define the earpink, and define the markings. }  wild    heart   ~    02:21, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

There is a white pixel between the leg and tail. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 05:13, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. Nice job Misty! <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:38, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. :D I'll try... 21:56, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

RE-Uploaded. This time I got the colors off the loner charart, so I don't need to fix that XD Anything else? 22:07, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading at the bottom of the tail, Good job on this ;D  22:12, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Pebble (CG) - For Approval
Before you say anything, yes I know this is already on the reservation table, but I was looking through the archives and saw it was declined from lack of work (and it was the same user who has it reserved now), so I figured it'd probably be Ok to do it. Anyways, I'm excited, this is my first Cavegaurd! ^^ Comments? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:27, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and define the mudstreaks, erase the waste around the charart, and enlarge the earpink. I like it =D   }   wild    heart   ~    07:02, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - The waste around the charart was already erased almost immediately after I uploaded it, but it was taking a while to show up. I enlarged the earpink (though it's not showing YET), but how do I define the mud streaks? Make them not so blurred? Make the darker? I don't quite understand.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:25, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Not so blurred. More distinct. AUGH it's 3:30 here and I have school tomorrow....... }  wild    heart   ~    10:36, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink,. 20:23, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more and get rid of the smudges around her ears and jaw. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:45, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I tried my best to make the mud more distinct, but it didn't work too well without making it looks like spots or something. I darkened the shading and removed the mud from the face. you'll know the changes are showing when the mud on the face is gone. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:33, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

They still need more defineing. If you have them in a seperate layer, I'd just redo them. If not I guess I could help you make them sharper? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 05:17, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah they're on a seperate layer. I guess I'll redo them again. My sharpening tool doesn't work. XP I gtg right now, but I'll do this later today. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:10, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Ok, so I made two different versions. This one's the first, and I'll upload the second one in place of this one if you don't like it. I tried smudging the streaks instead of blurring them, so hopefully that helps. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:46, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! I really like the smudged version of the mudstreaks. Makes it look much more realistic. Perhaps add a bit of mud near her --> side front paw. I know somebody already asked you to remove the mudstreaks on her face, but maybe you could just add some on the ear or the forehead, as the head looks suspiciously clean XD   }   wild    heart   ~    03:13, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the chest and haunch, and maybe widen the chest highlight a tad. Blur all mudstreaks except for the chest ones a bit. I agree with Wildheart; Pebble That Rolls Down Mountain's head is too clean. Darken the shading on the <--- side of the chest. Apart from all that, it looks pretty good!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:03, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink is a bit too big, make it a bit smaller, and add mud on the face. Great work! 22:12, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I find it kind of funny I got completely contrary comments from the first batch. XD And just by the way, I don't have any highlights on this. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:23, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Shrink the mud on the haunch, they look a little like patches. 00:02, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

The mud looks fine to me. I see nothing wrong; lovely job. 00:49, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the mud should be smudged. . . it makes it look like she's a gray and brown cat instead of a gray cat with mud smeared into its pelt. 02:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Foxleap (Alt. W) - For Approval
...I really hate this. Looks terrible >.< 04:07, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

No it doesn't! Darken the shading and earpink. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 04:14, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  04:25, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading even more. I like this :3   }   wild    heart   ~    05:50, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad, and enlarge and widen the shading a bit. Make his tail a tad bit lighter.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 06:57, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I say make the ear pink a tad bit smaller, it looks like it fills the whole ear, but maybe it could be because of the blurring. You could define it a little, just experiment and see if that would look better. Add some light parts to his tail towards the top. 20:38, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh. Think it looks a bit too pink. 04:08, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

The tail looks really gray at the end, is it blurred line art? If it is, get rid of it. If its not, make it more tawny. 19:22, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

And make the whole a tad bit lighter and redden the ear pink Sandstormrocks32 16:24, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the legs, it looks great ^.^ 02:16, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  05:46, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make sure this is saved as a png file. The fur look pale brown right now, make it a little more gingery. Darken and define the stripes a bit. Make the ear pink more reddish. Darken the tail stripes expecially. Thicken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:53, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink. }  wild    heart   ~    05:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Nightflower is going to be away for a little bit because of tests and stuff for school, so don't decline this due to lack of work. She didn't tell me how long she'll be gone, but hopefully it won't be for too long. Yeah so she just asked me to let you all know this... :3 19:52, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Owl Feather (SC)~ For Approval
If Cloudy Sun gets one, so does Owl Feather. I'm not fond of the speckle style, but what do y'all think? 19:22, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great to me! Blur the shading and desturate the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  20:46, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the legs a bit more. This looks fantastic! :) <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:46, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Thanks. 00:25, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

GORGEOUS! The spot on his forhead looks funny though. Maybe make it look more like it's a couple of small spots rather than one big one? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:35, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Gawjus, dahling, gawjus. Perhaps make the earpink a tiny bit smaller. }  wild    heart   ~    00:43, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 01:03, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Love it! Blur the tailtip a little. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 05:20, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  12:57, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 18:25, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the speckles on her tail, darken the shading on the forearm that's closest. Night shine  22:38, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 00:46, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the underbelly, it looks beautiful :D 02:18, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Do more speckles that might help... Sandstormrocks32 15:22, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 19:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink just a little bit. }  wild    heart   ~    03:14, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 00:17, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

This is lovely; I see nothing wrong. 00:20, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, wait. Aren't we going to redo her colour, 'cause she was mentioned as looking exactly like Kestrelflight? 00:47, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think she's going to get an alt or something will be done over tweek week. 00:54, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Shy Fawn (Q) - For Approval
Comments? -- Night  shine  01:28, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks a tad bit...green? Could you make the ear pink stand out a little bit? 01:38, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened ear pink. I took the colours right from her sharp claw image. Night shine  01:40, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh ok, now that I looked the shading colors are the same :) My bad! 01:43, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger. No offense to the artist who did her original image, but the colours are kind of terrible. They look very green. Could we change this in Tweak Week, and if so, why don't we just change the colour now? }  wild    heart   ~    04:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded changed colours around and made ear pink bigger. We'll just redo the Sharpclaw image during tweak week. Night shine  05:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

That's what I meant. Sorry for the miscommunication. Perhaps make the colour a bit richer, as it's still a bit green. }  wild    heart   ~    05:48, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. This is great! :D 21:54, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded how's this? Night shine  23:33, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! IF possible, lighten the shading on the tail, its a bit hard to see, but otherwise, it looks great! 00:38, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

<-- how about this colour? 04:08, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back highlight. Nice job Nightshine, <span style="color:red;font-family:Segoe Script;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:41, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

The shading seems a tad dark on her muzzle, maybe lighten it just a tad bit? 00:16, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I redid the colours. Comments? Night shine  21:09, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to be so fussy about this, but the colours still look a bit green-tinged. If it's just my computer, ignore me, but thin out the shading a bit on the top of the haunch. 00:45, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all the highlights, widen the stomach highlight and add shading on top of the back. 02:10, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Night  shine  20:07, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Night (KM) - For Approval
Boy, getting the mud to look good is hard. xD Comments? 23:04, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think the queens need mud...Brook's doesn't... 23:13, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well all of the other kit mothers do. I'll just wait and see what others say. 23:16, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. For now, just leave the mud. XD Enlarge and blur the earpink. Great work! 23:18, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the mud streaks. Right now she kind of looks like a dark tortoiseshell XD   }   wild    heart   ~    03:17, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mudstreaks, as Wildheart said. Maybe brighten the highlights on the chest a tad. Blur highlight on side. The highlight on the part of the tail closest to the attachment to the back needs blurring and lighten it a bit. Blur the base of the earpink.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:54, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Oh how I hate mud. :3 20:01, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I was wrong. You need to brighten the mudstreaks. Darkening them only made them harder to see XD 23:39, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 00:42, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly and tail. Good job RooRoo! XD 00:58, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:12, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste aroud the charart (top of head and tail) 01:57, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 20:32, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

There's still waste, so erase that. 03:12, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Could you tell me where? Just saying there's waste doesn't help much. 14:43, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Around the charart. 20:39, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, because that's so much help! Where around the charart? 23:00, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also, you might want to just redden the earpink a little, and make the mud more defined. At el  da  18:07, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Marshstar (L) - for approval
Here he is! Wild fire  20:46, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Darken the shading a bit, make the ear pink fill the ear, define the scar on the haunch. Darken the nose colour as well. Night shine  20:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail and the haunch on the left (my left.). Looks good! :) 21:01, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  21:11, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking my advice oh and make the scars on the right front paw longer and possibly a scar on the tail Sandstormrocks32 21:40, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add a touch of shading by the edges of the inner ear to make it look a little less flat, sharpen the scar on his flank, darken the shading under the chin and add shading the under part of the tail. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:24, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You don't necessarily need to add shading on the earpink, but smudge the pelt colour into it with the smallest brush possible. He doesn't have a scar on his tail, so you don't need to add one. Blur the shading and darken it a bit. 03:46, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the bottom of the haunch closest to us. Apart from that, it looks pretty good!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 07:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  19:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear oink then I belive it should be ready 22:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  22:35, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Prey Hunter Blanks - For Approval
If anyone objects to me putting these up, then I'd be happy to take them down. Comments? Night shine  20:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe move the eye a bit farther from the lineart (only a bit) and it looks like they have a big bump above the nose, smooth it out a bit. 21:04, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded tweaked muzzle and eye. Night shine  21:17, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

the chin kind of sticks out Wild  fire  21:32, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

These look amazing! 22:25, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

It appears to have no chest - the shoulder looks like it's attached to the neck. It also has no upper butt, the tail seems like it is the upper butt area. . . like, a cat's tail isn't attached that high up. xD The ears appear floppy, like donkey's ears. It has no far arm, just a paw - the far arm would have to be very skinny and disproportionate to fit behind the other one. 22:53, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded applied changes. Night shine  23:47, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

it looks like it has a double chin, its front foot is bent upward, and its back leg is too thin hope this helps Wild  fire  00:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The chin looks fine. 00:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

It looks a lot better now. But the back legs kind of look like noodles. . . xD 00:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps make the shoulder a little less protruding, and add some fur ruffles on the front legs' elbows. The very front front leg (if that makes any sense lawl) could be a bit longer. These are awesome! Wonderful job. 00:42, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

No complaints here. i think it looks perfect Night Shine. But one thing, if we redo al the prey hunter blanks, does that mean we can redo all the prey-hunters? If so, great! I just can never catch a charart... But anyway, It looks great! 02:08, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we'd redo all the current prey hunter chararts. 02:09, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

But the people who currently have a PH image up would still have claim to theirs, and the redone images would be done in Tweak Week. So if you want to do a PH image, you'll have to get 4 images approved before then, Spottedstar =P 02:31, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The area above the tail sticks a little far out. Also, the lines need to be thickened in areas. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 04:17, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

If we're making a new blank, shouldn't all the prey hunter chararts currently up for approval be taken down? The front leg on this seems to curve up slightly which looks strange. It's also pretty skinny for a cat. It has no pupils. 04:54, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded yes the prey hunters currently up for approval should be taken down. Night shine  20:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the front leg closest to us a tad skinnier on the short haired ones. 20:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Also make the front leg a little longer Wild  fire  21:06, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

There is a black triangle between the ears and it looks really odd. You might want to erase some of that. At el  da  22:42, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Where's the pupil? Because it looks sort of wierd. But other than that you did a great job!

Sorry ^that^ was me 22:45, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

i think you put the pupil in yourself like the others Wild  fire  22:48, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think the eyelash on the females should go up a tad bit. 23:40, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) For approval
Nobody reserved it so I thought I could do it. But i messed up the torn ear. Sandstormrocks32 16:53, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, not bad, needs some work;


 * 1) one make him more golden colored, like his aperentice image is, this is more a horrid yellow-green


 * 1) number two

You might want to copy the red line that was done for his image that was up before this one;

copy the colors for it too


 * 1) three

Darken and blue the earpink some more and make it smaller. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 18:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks but it might take a while becuase I'm trying to replicate it. So it might take a while but i am working on it. Sandstormrocks32 18:31, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Almost done... 21:30, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Darken the shading, and lighten the earpink. Blur the stripes as well. 22:18, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

(and smudge if you want) Wild  fire  22:27, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured the striped as I could 22:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this Tigerheart.warrior.alt. 22:40, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes more evenly and either add more or make the current ones thicker. Desaturate the earpink. 23:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I did as much as possible but it was really hard to make the stripes thicker and blur the stripes but I did my very best 23:09, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Dovewing Eye Color
Shouldn't Dovewing's eye color be blue? I mean, wasn't it mentioned more as blue than golden? And plus, Dove's Wing's eyes are blue too, and she's Dovewing in a past life, and other than the eyes right now she has the almost exact same description as Dovewing. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:37, April 20, 2011(UTC)

Yes. but, she was said she had Pale golden eyes FIRST, so i'm going to say that she has golden eyes, either that, or she VERY werid colors for hazel eyes. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:49, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Huh, I did't know that. Oh well. Still though, I think she's been described with blue more than golden. (I may be wrong though) I always thought she had blue, so..... XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:23, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

This should be on her warrior image being approved, not on the discussion because it is about a charart in approval stage. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:33, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

No, cause it applies to ALL her images. Though the other ones wouldn't be changed till tweek week. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:20, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should go with blue, because even though her eyes were described as golden first, we go with what's current. We always have. And Paleclaw, the other ones wouldn't be changed during tweak week, if it's something as minor as eye colour we don't wait. 17:43, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I thought ALL images the needed to be changed were done on tweak week unless the person who originally did the image changed it? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:31, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nope. You can just change the eye-colour and reupload it, as long as all you change is the eye colour. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:46, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

So we are going with blue? 15:55, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Her eye colour was first mentioned as golden... we agreed on her talk that that was what it would stay on. Should we have a poll or something?

- ♫Millie♫ <font color="Green">Heavystep is invincible... 22:18, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I know it started out as golden, but I agree with Paleclaw. I think she was mentioned with blue eyes more than with golden. I know it said golden first, but I thought there was only blue, green, amber, and yellow eye colors. Feather stream     The Sign Of Spring...   09:11, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Golden really is just yellow eyes with a hint of amber. So, it is genetically possible. 21:44, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Since when have the Erins cared about anything being genetically possible? X)  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  00:10, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

IDK. I was just answering a question. :) Anyway, Blue or not? 02:38, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Proposed New Ideas/Guidelines
Alright, I'm not sure if this goes on the forums or not (bad senior warrior, bad!), so I'm putting it here. Lots of new ideas and suggestions have come up recently, however, none of them have been implemented (yet). I figured we should compile them all in one place. And I've probably forgotten things. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 04:05, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alternates for major manga differences (i.e. Millie's cream-colored pelt)
 * Kit ranks (unable to post charart but can still comment on images)
 * Vacation List
 * Re-doing Prey Hunter blanks

Probably should go on the forums, but don't worry, nobody's going to tar and feather you for not doing so. Anyway, people don't look at the forums as much as they do the talk page. I agree with all of these suggestions. Should we vote...? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:59, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with all of these, too, and especially redoing the PH blanks. If we're voting, I vote yes. Leopard claw xx  WindClan forever! 07:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad this is finally going to vote, I was wondering when it would. I do wonder, though, for the kit ranks, would current apprentices be demoted to kit rank, or would only the ones that haven't done a picture yet? I also think the prey-hunter blanks are fine, I just think the muzzles look a little weird. 209.34.114.210 14:22, May 2, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe not signed in]

Actually, I'm not sure if this is a vote. Honestly, I'm a little confused on how this works. When Bramble was leader someone would suggest something, and if people supported it it would be implemented in a few days... but I don't really know anymore. (and yes, it is something I should know) Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 17:15, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno. It's been too long since Frostheart's been able to devote a large amount of time to the wiki (ie implementing new rules etc) and we really need a leader to be able to do that. I'm not challenging her leadership or anything, just saying maybe she could give us a little bit more of her free time? Haha Darkhallows you just came back from an absence. You're not expected to know everything that happened when you were gone XD   }   wild    heart   ~    22:35, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

These seem really good, and I agree with the "kit" rank. It would give us a chance to see who's going to stay in the project, and who's just joining for the sake of an edit or two. And can you really blame Frostheart for not being on a whole lot? I mean, we all have lives, and she's probably busy with school or something. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 22:45, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think a "kit" rank would make sense; it would keep track of those who haven't done a picture yet. I haven't; since I can't find any characters to make images for (and when there are, I don't have enough time); so I'd definitely be a kit. And the "vacation list" would do some good; too. But I'm not sure about the manga alternates and redoing the prey hunter blanks---the manga artists always mess up and don't pay much attention to the book descriptions; and the only thing about the prey hunter lineart that would need to be redone are the heads. Even then; it would be really hard to make the head more porportionate to the body on the blank. Koisplash 06:28, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

@Koisplash: (about the preyhunters blank) not if you had a good artist to do it! }  wild    heart   ~    07:08, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that alternate Chararts should be made for major manga differences(I made Russetfur's white alternate image and put it on here, like, ages ago, and it was declined). And I think that 'Kit' and 'Vacation' lists should be added. But, sometimes, if a PCA member suddenly disappeared, you couldn't know if they had just simply gone on vacation/holiday, and would end their inactivity ASAP, or if they had just decided they didn't like Project Character Art, and had just left, completely on their own accord, if they didn't post a message on here, PCA talkpage. And I think Prey-Hunter blanks are fine, mostly. I don't love them, and I do believe they stand out from the other ranked blanks, but I don't think ppl should bother to redo them. They're not that bad. I actually like them, a bit. They're sort of unique, how they're tipped downward.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 10:14, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I know I'm inactive now. I've been spending an insane amount of time on the Warrior Cats Roleplay Wiki, and none on here. I'd like that special section, so people know I haven't just given them up :)  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  12:53, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Since Frostheart is away, can Nigtshine put these into action? 02:23, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I would say that she could put the vacation list into action, if she wants, seeing as it's a pretty minor thing, but wait on the others. But idk. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:23, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well, obviously since Nightshine's now leader, these policies can now be put into place =) 02:28, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yellowfang - Queen Image?
Hey, I was wondering why Yellowfang doesn't have a queen image. I mean, she was seen and mentioned as a queen in Secrets of the Clans, so doesn't it make sense for her to have one? 03:11, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. She DID give birth to kits at one point, right? -- 03:19, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

But the Clan never knew that she was pregnant so she shouldn't get a queen image. It's the same for Leafpool, the Clan didn't know she was pregnant. -- Night  shine  03:20, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Just wondering. Guess this can be archvied now. XD 03:22, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Yellowfang or Leafpool should have queen images, but I think Squirrelflight should, as she was listed as a queen in the allegiances of The Sight. XXXSpecklestreamXXX 12:18, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

But Squirrelflight never really had any kits. 22:15, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think either Leafpool or Squirrelflight should get a queen image. Saying both shouldn't just seems odd to me. One of them had to be a queen! The kits came from somewhere and someone took care of them, so one of them would have been considered a queen. I agree that they shouldn't both get one though. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:19, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think Squirrelflight should, because she was seen in the nursery with kits, and everyone thought she was s queen... 22:36, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think not, because as I stated above, Squirrelflight's "kits" were not her own. Even if everybody thought she was a queen, she was standing in for Leafpool, really. 21:09, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Specklestream if she was listed as a queen she should get one Wild  fire  02:49, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Snake Ice alt?
I know we can't have alts based on manga pictures, but can we have the Snake/ Ice alt from the Ravenpaw's Path books? Because, it isn't just the picture that describes him different, Ravenpaw actually says, "They're colored just like Barley..." or something like that. So it was in the reading, not just the pictures.

Can I base an alt on that? 13:34, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

We made alternate for them a while ago, but for some reason (I can't remember) the alternates were taken down. Night shine  20:09, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Uspecified Tabby Vote
Everyone please go here to vote on the unspecified tabby debate. 21:22, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Leaving
Hi guys. I'm sorry, but I don't have the time to contribute to the Wiki well anymore. As you can see from my like..failing editcount, I'm really busy. XD I've had great times here, but it's time for me to take my way. I leave PCA to my wonderful deputy, Nightshine. :) 00:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

We'll miss you Frosty! :) 00:24, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oh my gosh Frostheart! I can't believe you're leaving! We'll all miss you =( Night  shine  00:27, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Frosty! I suppose it's true, that you haven't been on as much, but we're going to miss ya =( 00:34, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Noooo! You were leader when I came here! It's like losing Bluestar...we'll miss you!!!!! Stealthstar, apprentice of Project Charart :) 00:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

We will all miss you Frosty! :) Skype soon? :3 01:08, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

We'll miss you, Frostheart! <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:11, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Awwwwwww, we'll miss you Frostheart! D; ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:26, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You know that everybody will miss you! Sandstormrocks32 01:40, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and congratulations, Nightstar ;D Who's our new deputy? 01:48, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll miss you guys, too. I'll still be on IRC, though. Just one thing to say to our future PCA leader - I would like it if you made XxdovesongXX (or Mossy as she likes to be called :P). She's great at chararts and always on top of things with something to say (even if she can be rude or blunt xD) and she's great when it comes to constructive criticism. I was so impressed by her classic tabby redline for Silverstream. She's also pretty much the only person who adds in new apprentices. :P I really trust her and think she would make a great deputy. 01:55, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The new deputy is Nightshines decision. And no offense, but Dovesong is not the only one who adds in new apprentices, thank you very much, and im sorry but i dont think shes active enough to be the deputy. 01:59, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I know it's Nightshine's decision. . . but I was making a suggestion. Bramble suggested me as deputy when Oblivion became the new leader. xD She's active enough, but she just had a lot of schoolwork and tests in like the last month. :P I was just saying she adds in apprentices a lot of the time. . . xD 02:06, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Iceheart; no offense to Mossy, but she's on the IRC more than she is on the wiki. But you're right, it's Nightshine's decision, so I won't try to influence her. 02:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Just saying. . . I always keep an IRC tab open and since all my homework is on the computer I keep that open and work at the same time. If you haven't noticed, I only really talk on weekends at like three am. xD But it was just a suggestion. . . like she said. It's still Nightshine's decision, Mrs. SnuffleyBuns, she knows that. :P 02:18, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bye Frostheart! We'll miss you! 03:30, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Aw, I know we never talked, but it's always sad to see a member leave. My StarClan light your path :P. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:36, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

So, Nightshine, who do you plan on making deputy? 04:04, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Good-bye Frostheart! I hope you come back someday, but until then may StarClan light your path! 05:24, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bye Frostheart! I hope you have a great summer and we'll miss you! I can't forget all the great memories with the signature... lol.

Bye Frostheart you were a great leader Wild  fire  12:09, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Goodbye Frostheart (STAR in my world). May StarClan guide your paws. 15:20, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bye Frostheart! Sorry we never got to know eachother. 71.29.242.104 21:43, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bye Frostheart! We never really talked but you were the leader when I joined. I'll miss you :(  B l a z e    f r o s t   R o c k o n, P i l l a r a n d T h r e e D a y s G r a c e!  23:24, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Practice cat
Thoughts? My avatar is my practice cat. How do I add pics...*Embarrased* Stealthstar, apprentice of Project Charart :) 01:09, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You're not permitted to put up practice images on the PCA talk page. However, you can send it to a friend, and ask for criticisms. 01:37, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ohh alright; I saw others, so I thought it was Ok.

To make this thread worth something, can I researve Pine that Clings to Rock (or something...) cause I checked and it wasn't researved; pine was, I figured it was Pine from Tiger/Sasha

No, Pine that Clings to Rock is already reserved. Pine from Tigerstar and Sasha was never seen as a kit, so why would you think that? Pine that Clings to Rock is also called Pine. You also do not need to ask to reserve a charart. You check that nobody else has it reserved, that it doesn't already have an image, and then you just reserve it. 02:21, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reserving Dovewing's warrior charart
Hi,

I would like to reserve Dovewing's warrior charart, since no one else has made her/ reserved her (that I know of) yet. Here is the charart I have made for her.

Comment on it please!



B l a z e   f r o s t   R o c k o n, P i l l a r a n d T h r e e D a y s G r a c e! 23:20, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Somebody has already reserved it. And this is in the wrong section. 23:25, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, ok. Thanks for telling me. And what section should it go in? What do you think of it? ( I know it can't get approved since its already reserved but I'd like to have your opinion anyhow)

B l a z e   f r o s t   R o c k o n, P i l l a r a n d T h r e e D a y s G r a c e! 23:29, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

It's good but the ear pink is really really bright pink but other than that your pretty good! 23:39, May 15, 2011 (UTC)