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Russetfur (W) - Redone
Meh, Froon convinced me to get off my lazy butt and do a charart :] This charart was originally supposed to be tweaked, but I was having issues with the shading, so I just redid it :P 02:50, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a bit more ;3 First Foxleap, and now Russetfur... We think alike cuz' ;D 03:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Change the file name to Russetfur.warrior.png so it replaces the old one. 03:21, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh, the changes aren't showing xP Oh, and I can't make it a .png because my computer won't let me upload it if it's a .png. 03:58, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

And FYI, the changes don't show when I first put the picture there for me too, but they appear after you publish it. Odd. Lol. 04:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think you're meant to say who did the charart before it was tweaked? I believe it was Dawnleaf :D. This is really pretty. Lighten the earpink though and there is a garbage around the top of the tail, a brown pixel I think :3 This is good Nighty! ♔Sunspirit♔Back in... uh, yellow? 08:07, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Earpink looks really blotchy; I'll fix it in the next upload. 23:44, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

You should continue the stripes into the face, so it looks more natural instead of just the body and tail. 13:51, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I honestly think that this looks amazing with or without stripes in the face. ;) But I think the ear pink could be blurred a little more; it seems to straight on the bottom edge to me. 21:26, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tail shading a bit. 16:45, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe try to lighten the ear pink just a bit? With her pelt color it is hard to see it. But other than that, the pelt, stripes, shading and blurring looks amazing!Fallenstars 04:29, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

If you can, could you make her a little more ginger, she looks brown to me. Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:43, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

It looks close to the color it was before, I THINK it should stay the color it is, I may be wrong however. And there is a pixel outside her tail, get rid of that, this is a very lovely image. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:57, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken it to match her deputy image, and I can barely see the earpink, though defining it wouldn't be the answer, 'couse it's already sharp-edged. And who said she has stripes?- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 06:29, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

@Kittycat - She was never revealed to have stripes, but it isn't possible for a ginger cat not to have them. So basically we're tweaking all ginger cats to have stripes. 17:54, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Nightflower left the wiki (says on her profile), so someone can take over this. 14:59, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Running Horse (E) - Tweaked
Alright, original artist was Ashshadow, added graying muzzle, and it said he had scant fur, so I added scant fur :3. Comments? Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 15:11, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

>Nice job. Brighten the brown. 15:27, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by brighten it? He's a dark brown tom. this is dark brown. Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 15:52, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Bring the graying fur on the top his the muzzle too and darken it a tad. Also, I know the tweaking says nothing about this, but define the ear-pink too. ♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens♌ 16:46, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I know, but it's like....reddish brown. So brighten it a bit. 17:12, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I couldn't brighten it without getting frustrated with how pink it looked, so I redid it. Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 18:31, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

He looks like he's bleeding. D: Try going with a more fleshy tone. 18:56, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

The shading and the lineart is all messed up now. It still needs to be lightened a tad more. 19:51, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the patches need to be lightened. Since it says he has scant fur, what you could do was pake him a fleshy color, then add random parts of pelt color on to the skin and blur it in, that way it would look like his fur was thinning. It's just a thought. If not, you'd have to add more fleshy patches to his fur. 01:34, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

^ Ivy, that actually sounds like an interesting idea :). I think I'll try making him a fleshy color and then add patches of fur onto him. Hopefully my serverly-dwindled art skills won't make it look like he needs to wear a bag on his head...;-;. Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 02:20, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, so, I attempted to try what Ivy suggested. I can change it back to normal if desired, but I'm diggin how this looks right now :3. Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 02:54, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Is there such a thing as too blured and smudged? Because it looks a little....odd. Other than that darken ths shading a bit 16:00, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think you forgot the link, I linked it for you! Moonstream 04:01, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok the blue is where there is something coming out of the picture, and the green is where some pixls are colored differntly. Maple♥poolSchool? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:36, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the skin more a pale brownish color. Brown-colored Sphynx and example. -- 03:45, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Are you going o upload this, it has been six days... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:43, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I can't fix this... it's getting frustrating and I'm ready to throw my computer out the window. Withdrawing. Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin.  15:44, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

If I become a warrior soon, I wouldn't mind taking this over for you 15:46, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, since the vote is over and I became one, I'll take this over for you :) 17:08, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks blotchy. 17:43, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks much, Ivy :) Pianokey;  Frédéric François Chopin.  18:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Np! I don't think the changes are showing, but I went ahead and redid the whole picture. I added wrinkles to his skin and made his tail much thinner since a scantly furred cat wouldn't have such a thick tail. Comments? 20:57, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, it's showing now. 21:11, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

This is so better than mine :) Looking good. Make the earpink less neon. Pianokey;  Frédéric François Chopin.  21:15, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Don't put yourself down, I liked how yours was coming! I just had a hard time adding the new skin color on yours 21:20, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Smudge or blur the white muzzle fur more.

Reuploaded and if that's not ok, I'll just blur it. 22:25, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

If those pinkish-patches are the brown, make them browner~. That was the problem I was having with mine too. The color replace tool failed me... ;-; Pianokey;  Frédéric François Chopin.  22:27, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:00, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The muzzle is too gray, make it look more natural. And make the brown patches darker. Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 15:38, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

blur the patches a touch, and what is up with his tail? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:06, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

As I said when I uploaded it, I made it thinner since his tail wouldn't be that thick if it had scant fur, so I based it off a hairless cat's tail. 17:30, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded and I realized what was wrong with the muzzle Mintstar, I hd to tone down the shadow on his muzzle, that was what you were seeing. 18:54, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I meant that his muzzle looks like it's always been gray XD. With Pixlr, just dodge it a few times. I don't know about GIMP, maybe use the airbrush and use a light gray? Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 15:01, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make the fur patches look more like fur patches, they look like mud patches. 20:16, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:49, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Vinestar (L) ~ Redone


Original artist was Honeyfur, and I redid the shading, and ended up redoing the whole thing. 18:36, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

And changes aren't showing. 18:38, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Would it be possible to elongate the tail to match the description? (And personally I think the same should be done with Tallstar, as that's kind of what he's named for) 23:54, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:59, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I reverted the image to the newer image, Misty. Mintstar, I don't think the shading needs to be blurred as you were looking at the old one. Add shading at the end of the tail (make it longer like Shellheart said) and add depth to the eyes. (darker and lighter pixels) 17:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Icy! I redid the whole tail, and made it a bit longer. Please don't make me make it any longer. I fail at lineart. D: 18:00, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good! Blur the shading, yes, because it looks blotchy. Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 02:42, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I can't blur it any more.. 16:42, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink more on his left (our left) ear; it looks flat. 22:51, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help with blurring the shading, but anyways, I would darken the shading a bit underneath his neck and near the top of the haunch. Nice work! 01:27, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

A few stray pixels above his ears, get rid of those. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:58, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Petalnose (Q) - Tweaked
- Re-did did shading and brightened highlights. I tried a new way of doing shading, and I like it x3. Please don't tell me to blur the shoulder highlight. It can't be blurred anymore. 23:29, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

It's a bit dark compared to her other images. 23:56, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. Nice! Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

That's because of the shading + highlights. Er, Re-Uploaded xD 00:38, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste around the charart around her haunch area. Make the earpink bigger. 01:04, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see the waste on GIMP 02:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I can see it, want me to circil it for you? If not, It is under her foot, under her belly, near her foot, and above her back. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

OH I know why it isnt showing you, because, it is so pale, it looks like it isn't there, but if you lean in close, you can see it, it is there, but just BARLEY there. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:48, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

It is not there at all on GIMP. I can't fix it if I can't see it. 21:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

When I had a hard time seeing the waste on my Ivypool image, I put a colored background behind her as a new layer, maybe that could help you see it? Because I could never see it when people told me until I did that 22:00, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Where's the light source? I can't really tell... and darken the tail shading. 19:02, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

There's some shading waste above and below her back leg. 20:34, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I darkened the tail shading. Shellheart, I can't remove it because no matter how close I look in GIMP, it's not there. 13:56, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I can remove it for you, want me to? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:08, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Icestorm shall be gone until August 25th, so please don't decline this due to lack of work ;3  00:41, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Longtail (Alt. W) - Tweaked
The original artist was Feathermoon. I just made him gray. 03:19, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely! Darken the shading a tad and add/darken the shading under the chin. ♌The Star that cannot Return  to the Heavens ♌ 03:22, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:27, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I can see a bit of waste around the head and neck. Please erase it that this'll be pretty much ready. ♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 03:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Yay. :) 03:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't it just be his default warrior image, since we went with the silver description only with his elder charart? 12:43, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste all around. But the image looks good! @Shellheart, Longtail's alt. warrior is for the period of time when he was not an elder, but he had been attacked by the rabbit and had scars. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:26, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

He was attacked in FQ, there is a slighty waste under his forepaw closest to us, and und his haunch, and darken the shading a tad, I can't see it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 15:55, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hehe. One of Feathermoon's chararts. xD Anyways, good job Rainy. I know you're not required to do this, but...umm... Can you thicken the lineart by the nick in his ear? It seems too thin. 18:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Other than that, it looks good. 19:00, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The waste isn't showing on my comp... Can you specify where I missed it? 04:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

There's some between the ears, along the spine, and on the underside of the tail. Maybe go into the shading layer and fill the background with a color to see if the waste shows up. That's what I do with Photoshop. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:12, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I won't be able to re-upload this until I get back next week. Did we decide on how long TW was being extended? 13:16, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think it was said till the end of the month, not sure. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:23, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

There is a LOT of waste by the way, all the way around his cahrart, color the background, to see it. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:25, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Graystripe (D) Tweaked
The entire image needed tweaking. So I re-did the stripe, darkened the highlights, fixed up the ear pink, and played with the shading. I also added depth in the eye. Comments? 16:04, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on his leg needs blurred, also the bottom of his haunch. 17:02, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the highlights, make the stripe thicker, and blur it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:36, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 18:50, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

It says his left ear is torn, so tear that. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:54, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Tore his left ear, blurred the haunch shading, toned down the highlights, and tweaked the stripe. Comments? (By the way, on August 14th, if this isn't approved, I won't be able to work on this or any other of my images, considering that I'll be gone. Anyone can take over) 18:04, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

There is some waste near his ear and back. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:09, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Removed. 20:41, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Either lighten the shading a bit or darken the highlights. And I can't really see the stripe through all the shading, so maybe darken that too? Also, blur the shading a tad. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 20:57, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Im pretty sure that you tore the right ear,. not the left.Bluestar11796 22:28, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is too dark, if you make the stripe much darker, it'll be pure black. Make it more like his warrior image and I think it'll be good :3 23:09, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Are the changes showing? If they are, there is still a pixel by his ear. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:21, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I lightened the shading. 13:51, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. :3 15:53, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the changes are showing, but Frostheart, I can't anymore. It's blurred to maximum. 15:55, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The stripe blends into the shading, define it. Vega; Beauty is absoulute.  22:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you're supposed to tear the ear on HIS left, not our left. 18:00, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Rippleclaw (W)~ Redone
Original artist was Ashshadow, and honestly i always wanted to redo this image. Comments? 19:19, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlight on the tail and darken the shading on the forelegs and under the chin. I love the stripes! <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:17, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

And enlarge the earpink a little, too.

Oops, forgot to sign. 20:55, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! If you're gonna put dots on him, make them more visible, otherwise he looks almost mottled or flecked. 21:04, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I thought we weren't supposed to re-do images that weren't on the re-done list? 22:27, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

idk, but we might as well keep it like this, since this looks amazing! I love the stripes. :D Define the earpink and Lighten the highlghts on the tail. 18:34, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

No offense to Ashshadow, but this one looks much better. The only thing I can think of to fix is to do what Ivystripe said and make the dots more visible. 22:35, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, whether or not he was on the list is kinda irrelevant, his image needed redone badly. The shading was really off 00:21, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Is it really fair if im the only one you make sure follows the rule Icestorm? 19:21, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Beatiful! but you need to darken the shading ever so slightly. Then it would be perfect 20:10, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little more visible. 21:41, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't he supposed to be a black and silver tabby, not a silver tabby with black stripes? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:57, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

It could be etiher way Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 16:47, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Pod (Lo)~ Tweaked
Original artist was Bramble, and it needed its shading tweaked. Comments? 19:42, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Changes arent showing. 19:43, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think they're showing now, I can see a definite difference. Add some more shading on the underside of the tail, I looks kinda funny how it just stops half way though. Turn the scar on his muzzle a darker gray, it kinda looked like he's blushing. Nice work! <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:15, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Its awesome! Blur the tail shading a bit. 18:36, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 19:23, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading connecting the legs to the back, if that makes sense. xD 00:28, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Do what Frosheart says, and Ashshadow also worked on it, Bramble just made the background transparent. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:02, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Amberclaw (W) - Tweaked
Hate this. I burned in stripes, and the original artist was Riverpelt. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 02:46, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are harder to see on the legs- define them please :) 02:48, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- darkened the shading, brightened the highlights, and redid the stripes. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:35, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

He's too bright, maybe desaturate him a little. 18:31, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading between the haunch and the front paw. 18:40, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:56, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights alot, they are far to bright. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:20, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 15:49, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the haunch highlight, please. Still too bright. 01:14, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- please don't make me dull the highlights down too much. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:56, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I preferably think that the highlights are fine. Anyways, I would taper the stripes a little. As in just use the smudge tool and carefully use it to make the stripes a bit....pointier....at the end. 15:38, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 19:21, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Rosetail (W) - Redone
Mehhhhasd. xD 17:25, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Dull down the ginger a bit and make the tail a bit more pinkish. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 17:41, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Frostheart won't dull it down considering it's light brown already. 22:00, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Even out the shading on the haunch down by the base of the tail. Blur the shading on the chest a tad more and darken the shading on the hind leg farthest from us. This looks really nice. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 18:11, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the tail more pinkish colored, and blur the earpink a touch. Very Nice image. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:51, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:41, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfoot (W) - Tweaked
Since my vote has passed, I'm putting this up for approval again. Original artist was Dawnfeather, and I just added stripes. 18:19, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

This is good! But, I can't see the ear-pink. I'm sorry! I think it's my computer doing that. But it's very good! <font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 18:33, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I darkened the earpink anyways. 18:40, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpinnk, define the stripes on the tail and head. 18:42, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:00, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. Good job Moonleaf! <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:04, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe add some more smaller stripes to his front leg? 23:19, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:00, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is a bit too bright. 00:26, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:54, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the leg farthest from us and can you straighten the ear-pink? It looks kinda crooked, <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 18:12, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:54, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Is there a white pixel in his eyes? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:19, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, there is. 03:40, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I would darken the shading all around his image as it looks a bit flat. Smudge the end of the stripes or do something as I find that they look...a bit more drawn on. And I don't know about the eye...I think you should chose a color or darken the color of they eye even though it doesn't say what color is in the description. Artist's choice, I presume. Otherwise, despite the looks of this (semi) paragraph, it looks good! 15:45, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:19, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Quickpaw (A) - Redone
Original artist was Icethroat21, and I redid the shading and redid it as a tabby. I know this is over the page limit, but Mousefang (W) and Lionblaze (K) both should be archived. 19:02, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

There is blurred lineart. :3 00:25, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The blurred linart is on the on right leg, the start of the haunch, and the chest. If anyone can point out more spots, then do so. 19:18, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Pinestar (L) - Redone
Original artist was Sandwich989, and was redone to match his kittypet version. Comments? 19:26, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

His hind foot and some of the digits (toes) look a different color than the rest of him, as well as the part of the belly that is seperated by a line. 22:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights and blur the shading. 23:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

There is a line coming out of the bottom of his haunch. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:07, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading under the chin, on the haunch (thicken it too) and darken the shading on his lower chest and belly. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 18:15, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

There's are loose specks over both of his ears. 20:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Why does this look a tad darker then his kittypet version? Is it the shading? 01:11, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

No, she didn't add highlights to this. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:55, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I know she didn't add highlights. Those and shading are two different things. It just seems darker, and I want to know if it's possible she can lighten up the image a tad. 21:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I think the right eye is noticeably darker than the left eye. 02:32, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Flametail (A) ~ Tweaked
Well, here he is. Mind you, it's hard to replicate what you have a rough time seeing. xD Original artist is Snowfeather, and it was then tweaked by Insane (who made it longhaired). 00:16, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the stripes on his neck don't match his MCA. 00:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

* sighs* You have NO idea how annoying this is. Re-uploaded. 01:19, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can you try making the stripes more visible? :3 02:18, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

If I make them any more visible, they're going to look out of place. I can try, I guess. 02:21, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Looks bad, I know. 02:25, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes where the shading is. Maybe take your burn tool and run over the layer with the stripes to darken them? Desaturate the ear-pink as well, please. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 18:21, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ear pink = not my problem (for the umpteen-millionth time). I've never used the burn tool, but I can give it a shot. 19:28, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better? I didn't use the burn tool, but I have other methods. XD 19:42, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add one more stripe on the face? <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  22:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

No. I have to copy what's on the MCA image. 22:52, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Did you draw the stripes over the shading and highlights? Define the stripes on the tail. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:54, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the 2 face stripes. 17:00, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Adderfang (D)- Tweaked


Orginal artist was Honeyfur, I just made him mottled, comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:55, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tabby stripes. Make the earpink bigger 02:00, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading a little more visible too. 02:02, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

 Reuploaded - I think I killed the image Dx Made the stripes a shade lighter, and darkeedn the shading, comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:17, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Changes aren't showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:18, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are much better ^^. Except the shading still seems a little off. 02:27, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

 Repuloaded - fixed the shading, changes still not showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:36, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, Changes re showing now. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:45, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Straighten out the ear-pink, it looks a bit crooked xP. Blur the shading on the tail and on the chest. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:21, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I will upload it in the morning, I'm at my grandmother's and she doesn't have gimp, sadly Dx Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 03:02, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

This picture looks great and all, but it doesn't look like his warrior image anymore, which was approved like a couple weeks ago to look like the OLD deputy image. Should we keep that one then? It had spots, so it could kind of pass as mottled. No offence to Maplepool or anything, this picture is great, but should it be declined? The whole reason we tweaked the warrior was to make both his images match. Tweaking this will just bring that problem back. Just my opinion. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:18, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

he was needed to be mottled, but could we maybe tweak his warrior image agian? If not, if anyone else has a promblem with this image, I will take it down, but anyway  Reuploaded - fixed the ear-pink, anything else? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:43, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Brightheart (A) ~ Tweaked (Redone)
Here's Brightheart's apprentice charart. I ended up redoing it to tweak the patches. Original artist was Sandy and then it was tweaked by Goldenpaw. Changes aren't showing up yet. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 02:59, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

She needs torn ears I think...all of her images except her kit image have torn ears. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  12:37, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Do the ginger patches need stripes? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:51, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make her long furred, it says she fluffy. I think they might need stripes, not sure. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:04, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think she needs stripes. It doesn't say in her description.... <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  17:28, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Since her patches are ginger, she probably needs stripes. It doesn't have to be in her description. 18:45, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

@Snowdazzle - She shouldn't have torn ears, for this isn't her alternate apprentice version, and she hadn't gotten attacked by the dog pack yet :3 22:38, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Her page doesn't have a reference for her being fluffy so I'm going to keep her short haired for now. I'll also ask a lead about her patches having stripes as well. Personally, I don't think they should, but they're easy to add. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:18, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Redclaw (W) - Tweaked
I hope this isn't over the limit, since a couple of images should be approved and archived. Original artist was Flamingomom3/Hawktalon, and I just added stripes. 03:58, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

This is really great Moonleaf, but can you give him more of a stripe pattern instead of just lines. Make them y-shaped, swirled, or triangular please. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:49, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading a tad. 17:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Mintstar: I think the stripes are fine as they are. 18:02, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

He looks flat, give him Highlights/shading, if he has them, make them more noticaable. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 20:17, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:37, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thunder (Lo) - Tweaked (Redone)
I ended up having to redo it because his loner color didn't match his leader image. Anyway, he needed stripes and the original artist was Honeyfur, but then was tweaked by Bramble and Ashshadow. 14:44, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes get lost in the shading. Also, define the tail stripes. Nice job! <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:49, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  15:00, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a tad ;3  02:55, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hazeltail (K) - Redone
She needed to be redone as a long-haired and the original artist was FirePelt. 14:44, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Try reuploading over the old one. The new changes aren't even showing in the history, sadly. 18:26, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

They still aren't showing, but you can see it on the second file in her file history. xP

Blue the patches a touch. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 20:16, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Buzzardstar (D) - Redone
I don't like this one. ._. 15:07, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * God, I always forget original artist and blah. ._. Anyways, It was done by Morningleaf then tweaked by Ashshadow. It needed to have stripes, I think. :3 15:09, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sexy. xD blur the shading a tad. 15:13, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the earpink more visable, I can't see it  Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 18:45, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Squirrelflight (W) - Redone
My Ravenpaw image needs to be archived, so this isn't over the limit. Changes aren't showing. Original artist was Bramble, Shimmerpool, and tweaked by Moonflight. Her color was too bright. So I made her champagne colored, which is dark red. I don't like this, I think it either needs to be blurred somewhere or her shading is a little wonky (her chin shading) 19:13, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Lightne her a tad, and brighten the highlights.(MUCH better, no offense to anyone.) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 19:18, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The pelt color or shading? I think I should lighten the shading, but just making sure what you mean :3 19:25, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The shading, her pelt color is fine. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:32, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It should be the second one in the history 19:40, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

This looks too red, I think you should just make it dark ginger, which is more like a red-brown color. 19:47, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

You are looking at the right one, right? This hasn't been showing, and I just want to make sure 19:49, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Emphasize the shading a bit more, and spread out the highlights. Looks good! 20:26, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ivy, this is much better. Other from what Atelda says, I can find nothing wrong. Excellent job! 21:32, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rainy, this is a sickly red color, not dark ginger. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:16, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I went back to square one. On the one that says color test, please lok at it and see if the color looks satisfying. It's much easier to recolor my image when it's not blurred or smudged. I will take care of everything else once the color is satisfactory. 23:45, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

That one looks better, just make it a little bit more ginger. :3 00:00, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Check the color now, it should be the second one, it's a little lighter than the others surrounding it 00:44, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Personaly, I liked the one you had up before, but I geuss the 2nd one is okay, just make the stripes on it a little less brown, and a bit more red-ginger, alright? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 03:14, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I liked it too, but a few people thought I needed to change it. I'll fix that and go ahead and add shading and stuff 03:28, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Jay's Wing (TB) ~ Tweaked (Redone)
...I don't think that I and gray cats mix well.... I ended up re-doing this because I could hardly pick out where the stripes even were. Took the colors from his SC charart and tried to copy the stripes... Original artist was Bluestar1776. Don't think the changes are showing up yet. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:16, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Could you define the shading more, it looks a bit flat. Nice work :D 02:28, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Petalfur (W) - Redone
Finally nabbed a spot. Changes aren't showing though. Original artist was Icethroat, and I just had to blur the shading, but ended up redoing it. 00:27, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, it looks a bit flat, blur the shading on the chest, and blur the gray paws and white tail tip. This looks nice. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:29, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

This isn't my redone version, it's just the original version. The changes aren't showing. :P 00:33, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

The redone version is just below the current version in the file history. 00:35, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I know, that's what I was looking at. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:38, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

If I'm seeing the right one, smudge the highlights into the pelt a little 00:51, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Scarletwind: Oh xD. Ivystripe: This is the original. 00:59, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 01:05, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the paws a little more, and blur the end of the shading on the muzzle, and I think there is blured lineart on the tail. 02:24, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:08, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Willlowpelt (Ki) ~ Tweaked
Changes aren't showing but...shading needed to be blurred. Original artist is Icethroat. 03:27, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Dappletail (W) ~ Tweaked


The Original artist was Insaneulr, I just added the white patches, changes aren't showing yet. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:39, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see it full size, even on the history, but from where you uploaded it, I can see the white patch needs to be blurred into her pelt more 15:41, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

 Reuploaded - Blurred the white patches to a max, And the changes look likt they are showing now. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:47, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Cedarheart (E) ~ Tweaked
I've been waiting awhile to fit this in. So I looked and saw there some spaces still left. Echomist did the regular image, I just added the graying muzzle. 17:42, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Could you dull the muzzle down a little? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 18:38, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestar (Ki) - Tweaked
Original artist was Quietstep, and the pelt and earpink were inconsistent with the others. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 19:04, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area=

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Question about Leafstar's images
Ok, I know I put my question in the incorrect place last night, where nobody could see it, so I'm just making a new section for it. On the Nominations page, I had originally put Leafstar's images down as needing cream (I DON'T see cream anywhere on her images), and somebody chnged it to just needing cream stripes. I'm confused as to how she has cream on her: I mostly wanted to clear that up, because I'm doing her queen image, but it'll be hard to make it match if she's not tweaked for the right thing. 16:07, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

There are cream blotches along her haunch, her back, her fore-head, her tail, her stomach, and her left fore-leg. I really like how this is, the cream is nice and soft. I never pictured her with cream blotches patched all over her, I think it was supposed to be much more subtle Night <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">Fall 19:14, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like brownish-ginger to me. Berrynose is cream. 20:17, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well it blends into her pelt more and it looks pretty cream against the brown. It doesn't have to be like Berrynose cream, then it would look kind of odd and stand out too much in my opinion. 17:13, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like highlights to meWildfire 02:34, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Not to me. Highlights are brighter tones of the pelt, but the cream here isn't at all the shade of brown. I think Rainwhisper is right, if we did each cat with the same color of cream, then they wouldn't stand out as individuals. I think every cat that has cream on their fur has a different and unique shade of it. I think she's beautiful as she is Night <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">Fall 02:37, July 19, 2011 (UTC) Well, usually when a cat is cream and tabby it means that their stomache and muzzle are totally cream, such as the white on Billystorm. I think the character art is nice, but the cream is unnatural. 19:37, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that they look like highlights. Maybe at least add a cream underbelly, chest, or muzzle, like said above? 19:03, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I just really hoped she gets tweaked soon, because while Tweak Week is going on and I can't submit anything, I want to try to get it as ready as I possibly can, since we have a lot of chararts to do, and I need the right cream color (fyi the cream on all her images ARE in fact different, so one has to be picked for all of them) 20:25, July 22, 2011 (UTC) I want to see it drawn more realistically, too. For once, the cover art on the super edition looks closer to her description. Is it on the list for tweaking? 03:25, July 25, 2011 (UTC) Yes, it is. 00:42, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Where is that list, anyway? Is it available to the general public? 00:38, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I just don't want to see this image totally redone...one, it's really beautiful as it is, and two, there's nothing that needs to be redone. I can agree that more cream could be added, but I hope that's the only thing that will be done to it Night <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">Fall 16:52, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't want it completely redone. I just want to see cream added to her chest in a more natural pattern, like how we make any other chararts with descriptions like hers. Just look at Billystorm. He's described as a ginger and white, and we don't just have little white ripples in his fur. We made his chest, tail, paws, and muzzle white. 20:52, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

She doesn't have to be exactly like Billystorm. I think the image is fine as it is. You can obviously see cream on her fur - but yes, more cream needs to be added, and like Nightfall said, that's the only thing. 21:46, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

The Leafstar image is fine. There are many shades of cream, Daisy's cream is the most common. But, her image is fine.Moon<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">stream 21:00, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't mean that there needs to be more cream. Just that the pattern of cream is unnatural. I honestly think the pattern should be the same as we do with every other cat described like she is (tabby and white, cream, etc). 19:00, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Why though? It excludes all uniqueness if she's just made like all the other cats are. Each cat on this planet is different from the other. Even if you google brown tabbies, you'll get brown tabby cats with thousands of different styles of stripes and shades of brown. Each charart should stand out, not just melt into all the others. Night Fall 23:55, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

I think waht they mean by brown and cream is waht she looks like on the cover of The Rescue. Wildbreath 18:15, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

No, I only added this because I'm an idiot and can't tell. 19:40, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Cats can come in patterns like that, but the stripes are lightened across the cream bits. So... personally, I think that's what we should do. It should be a pretty quick fix to lighten the stripes on all her images, yes? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I guess that would help. I'm trying to vision what it would look like in my head. I must say I do like the way she was depicted on the cover of SkyClan's Destiny (under the book jacket). Oh, well, though. :3 19:22, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

New Suggestion
I had an idea after looking at the page for Sunfish, who is only ever given a description by her appearance in the manga at the end of Crookedstar's Promise. If a cat only appears in a manga or isn't described in detail in a book but is shown in a manga, can we go with the manga description? I know there would be color problems, but we could just set the charart to generic colors and put 'tabby', 'totoiseshell', 'mottled', or something like that on the page. Just a thought. 17:46, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

It depends on how the character is drawn. 18:39, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

That's the point. It's not that hard to decipher pelt type in the manga. I really wish we'd use this as a rule. It's how we chose Tadpole's description, isn't it? I think so. Plus, I think my dad told me something about how you can convert black-and-white into color, although it won't be as high quality as if it was color to black-and-white. 20:52, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Have we decided on the manga fourm yet? Wildfire 00:59, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, but Ivy, can you try and do that? Then we might be able so see if it works. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 19:16, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Join Request
Hi! Could you please add me? I would appreciate it very much! <font color="red" face=segoe script">Cloud <font color="orange" face=segoe script">claw1 <font color="green" face=segoe script">Fly  <font color="blue" face=segoe script">the  <font color="purple" face=segoe script">winds...  22:49, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

I put this in a separate heading. And yes, you may join! A lead will add you soon, and you'll be added as a kit, so you can't do chararts for a month, you can only comment on them. 01:14, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hey I have been waiting for the day but no one has added me as a kit yet if you could do that when you get the chance i would really appreciate it. :)

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Of course you two can join! I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines to get you started. Also, I'd advise you to keep an eye of the talk page, we're currently debating the kit system. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:37, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Expanding
We need to expand Tweak Week, but was it ever decided that we would expand it or end it on the 7th? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:23, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking of adding a week... it's already past the 7th xD. We still have a ton to do. We can't finish it all... but it'll give us a little more time. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 23:36, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

i counted the images...and i lost count...you may want to add more than a week, Darkhallows.... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 23:52, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, we should expand tweak week to maybe the end of august. We still have like 20 some chararts to get through. Maybe also enlist some of the more senior apprentices for assistance? Some examples being Maplepool, Moonleaf, Ivystripe, and Leopardclaw. Because, honestly, we need more help. Thoughts? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:29, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Agreed. Maybe some more apprentices? 00:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, but we don't too many apprentices to help out. But we don't want the ones who don't get to help out hurt. I think the four we have now are fine. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking maybe we could make tweak week a permanent thing. Like how we have the section for images pending approval, and for discussion, we could have a third one for tweaking. We could continue to add images to the forum as we see needed, and it would remove people posting chararts at random, with just a torn ear added. I would also take away the time press, and personally I think that would make the chararts better. Thoughts? 01:18, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

We would have to shorten the limit of images, though. So, in the template on PCA's main page, we could have: One charart for tweaking, one for regular. 01:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

If you guys end up wanting my help, I would be willing to. Just remember, we DO have a lot of regular images to be done, so if it is decided on an extension, please be mindful of that, as there are many pages without a charart at all. I have always thought a permanent tweak section would be a good idea, though. 03:06, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about a permenant tweaking section... but I think we need to do this more than once a year. Maybe 3 or 4 times for around 2 weeks each? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think a permanent tweaking section is a good idea. However, we can't just put up any picture we see because there is just a tiny tiny thing that's a bit off. So I say we have a forum, as Iceheart said, and a lead can make sure that the image is okay for tweaking. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree as well, what Iceheart said is good idea. Like for Brook, she needs a torn ear for all of her images, she got the torn ear in....The sight i think, when Hollleaf went to get some herbs....Don't rember it all but so, for images like that, it would be added to the forum if we agrre to it? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:14, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

A permanent tweaking section would be good. I was thinking that we should just edit the charart without going through any process at all, like when we change the eye colour. And I would be willing to help with TW. 19:05, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should hold up on letting apprentices help. I nominate some people to be warriors, and i shortened the vote to only two days, just because of the time crunch (Sorry for the copy/paste nomination reason, i was too lazy to come up with personalized ones). If you think people should be helping with TW, nominate them. Its a bad idea to just have some apprentices allowed to participate. 19:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with having a continuous Tweak Week. Yes, we have a profuse amount of images needing tweaking right now, but what about later, when it's (say) October. By then we would have few images needing tweaking, and nomiating images would be few and far between. With the few images that would need tweaking by then, there can be prolific arguements about who reserved it. I also think that it's unfair to nomimate apprentices to warriors just because we need more warriors. It's unfair and can be demeaning to some users. However, chosing certain apprentices is pusillanimous as well. I just think that users should nomianate other users because they think that they've achived this milestone. I'm in agreement with Darkhallows that we should do tweak week more than once a year. Perhaps twice a year for a month and maybe a half. 20:24, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Atelda on this one. If we had a different section for tweaked chararts, I think that things would only get cluttered and very confusing. I think that if we had a tweaking section year round, that the project would split between those who want to do an actual charart for their warrior status and those who want to actually help the articles' chararts. (Sorry if I'm sounding offensive to anyone in anyway.) But I do agree that TW should be more than once a year, 2-3 times a year sounds good. I also think that we should enforce the 2 months to have a charart approved rule. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 21:11, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

If we're doing to do TW more times a year, should we end it now? 23:09, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Makes some sense. It'd let us get the idea of some of the senior apprentices being able to contribute in order. I think that the next one should be in six months if not sooner. My proposal would be around christmas since a lot of people would be on winter break and we might be able to work during the morning and not just in the afternoon and evening.

Also, a bit of a weird question. What happens to all the chararts that aren't approved by the end of TW? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 23:28, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think they are saved for next TW, which is why there is a Never Done Last TW section, I think. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:35, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think Scarletwind meant if there were some that are above not approved when it ends. If we end it soon, it should at least be after all the above ones are approved. 15:05, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can I become a kit?
I have microsoft Painnt and Gimp but I dont know how to use them...

Yes, you would be able to become a kit, though you did not sign with the four ~'s, so you don't know who you are... 19:26, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hello! I've got the same question. I can't add shadings or something, but I can do cats:

I would be happy to become a kit, Fireheart002 15:32, August 14, 2011 (UTC)Fireheart002

Kit system discussion
I have moved the discussion about improving/removing the kit system to the forum and can be found here. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Jaggedtooth..
OK I'M NOT WARRIOR! AND I KNOW IT BUT PLEASE READ THIS AND ANSWER...

It's Tweak week and I saw some chararts..they looks very bad. like Jaggetooth..I'm sorry, I know I'm only apprentice but I made new Jaggedtooth's rogue image...but you wont't accep it. I'm only want help..yes? Thanks Leaf-storm,11:18,August 9,2011(UTC)

This is awesome! You'll be a warrior soon, I hope. Well done! How did you make those stripes btw? 11:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I wouldn't mind using this to replace Jaggedtooth's image (did we really let that get approved? o.o). If no one has any objections, I think we can go ahead and let you put this up for approval. This would be an exception and not something I would generally consider, but this is really good xD. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:55, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Alright if we're going to include apprentices we have to include Leaf-storm. I agree, this is really good. Some early comments...xD darken the shading. 12:37, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

You're not seriously going to approve this? I agree, it's great, but is is truly fair to just let Leafstorm, only an apprentice, put up a charat? I'm sure a lot of the apprentices make great charats, just as good as this, but since we can't participate in Tweak Week, no one knows what ours would look like! I agree with Leaf, some do look awful, and I would love to see where others can go with them. But just to let Leafstorm put one up, just because they put up an example you liked...it doesn't seem fair to the other apprentices who can't participate :3 Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  13:02, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think Leafstorm has been here for quite awhile. He/she was removed when Nightshine was removing inactive apprentices, which I don't know why, and that was awhile ago. It looks good, but I can see what Gingertail is saying. But, then again, we are considering more apprentices, so I think Leafstorm should be part of the apprentices tweaking. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:06, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Apprentices can tweak images now?

Sorry that ^^ was me. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">Snowdazzle Severus Snape.  14:11, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I'm confused about this as well. Does this mean all apprentices, or just Leaf-storm? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 15:57, August 9, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

We're allowing this to be posted. However, we might let some more apprentices be allowed, adn those are: Maplepool, Ivystripe, and some more I can't remember xD 16:00, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I see. Thanks. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 16:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Wow, Leafstorm, that is a very dazzling image! Early comment as well, Darken ear pink, other that, I find noting wrong with this! Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:10, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

So, would you like my help then? And this is AMAZING! Great job Leaf-storm! 16:16, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, just saw you want my help, I feel so loved xD @Rainy what i think Leafstorm did, was on gimp, taken the pen tool, set it to the smallest settings, and do it that way, 'cause, I really don't think Pixrl's pen tool can do that, even at like one. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Holy cow. This is beautiful! I see nothing really wrong with this image, and it looks much better then the one we have up there now. *no offense to the creator* 18:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I darker shadings and ear pink Leaf-storm,18:36,August 9.2011 (UTC)

Early commet again, Rename him, Jaggedtooth.rouge.png, then really, other than that, what is wrong with it? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 20:22, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't we move this to the 'Images Pending Approval' section? <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  21:06, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't konw, I mean, it has 35 images, witch is the limt, so it might stay here. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 21:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

It'd be best to keep it down here until one of the images has been archived or something... Oh, and Leaf, please blur the ear pink. =) 21:49, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that this charart is very nice, but I don't think that's reason to allow it for Leaf-storm if all the other apprentices' rights for TW are unknown. I think that unless all the apprentices can participate, it wouldn't be fair to allow this to be up for approval. No offense to Leaf-storm, but having this up is causing a lot of confusion and some apprentices' feelings are getting hurt. I know that wasn't you intention, so know right now that I'm not angry at you. I just feel that if one apprentice is allowed to have one charart up for approval when the majority of the project has to wait is unfair. Before we decide whether to put this really up for approval or not, I'd like to hear some of the other project members' opinions. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 03:47, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I had never intended to let apprentices do TW, but the whole reason that they aren't supposed to is that, frankly, the aren't all that experienced and might not be good at charart. I beleive that this is about as high quality as we'll get for this image, and no one has it reserved. I don't think letting one apprentice do one images will hurt anything. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:09, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: blurred ear pink

Darkhallows, this means you won´t accept it? :-( Leaf-storm,07:18,August 10.2011 (UTC)

Erm, it might not be my place but, while this is a STUNNING image, we have already have had a few people feel upset due to this...but if Darkhallows or Iceheart says it is okay, they will have to suck it up and not complain to much... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:43, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

To the ones that are complaining.... It's one image! There really is no reason to be complaining over one, simple tiny image. There are tons of others thing you all could be doing, instead of complaining, to help you get nominated to become a warrior that way you can help us out next Tweak Week. I think y'all over overreacting over something as small as this. *sighs* 17:50, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, exactly! The morale is: Be patient :l <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  23:12, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

While I agree this is amazing, in my opinion, it should be declined. It should have never been put up in the first place, and Leafstorm's not even an experienced apprentice (as in she hasn't had a charart approved yet, NOT that she's not good). It wouldn't be fair to the other apprentices, even if it WAS just this ONE image. There are more experienced apprentices who have been here longer AND have more images approved, yet they don't get to participate. There are plenty of Warriors who can work on this image and they'd do a great job too. It's just, I don't think we should make an exception just because an apprentice put up a charart when she wasn't supposed to and it looks really good. Leafstorm will be able to help out and make amazing images VERY soon, as Tweak Week is almost over, so I think this should be declined. No offence intended at all Leafstorm, I absolutely LOVE your image, it's better than even what some of the warriors could do (like me), I just don't think it'd be fair to let this be approved, that's all.

Wow, that was a long post. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:08, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Don't lose sight of the Project goal under all these rules and politics, guys. 09:51, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone tell me what will be next? Please.. Leaf-storm,18:56,August 12,2011(UTC)

I agree with Sandy. I know it may not seem fair to the other apprentices, but I don't see how anyone could do better. Life isn't always fair. But I don't think apprentices should post anymore of these to avoid anger 23:00, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, so this is what I missed while on vacation x) Anyways, gaiz, this is just one picture. What are the odds of this happening again? I doubt the leads would allow that. I'd say let this one slip by~ Oh, and blurr the belly shading x) -- 04:08, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Charart
What program do you use to edit the cats? 19:06, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

A lot of people use GIMP but others have been used like Pixlr I think. I used Photoshop Elements for my chararts. I hope this helps. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 23:38, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I for one use pixlr.com and I agree with Scarletwind (Who's profile I LOVE) that alot of people use GIMP. Also, remember to sign with 4 ~'s. Thanks! ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 00:30, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Photoshop CS5. I'd prefer GIMP, tbh, but it doesn't work for me. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:22, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I using Gimp and for blurring Photo Filtre 9 (sometimes) Leaf-storm,7:44,August 10,2011(UTC)

I use Paint, Gimp, and sometimes Pixrl, but mainly Paint and gimp. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 15:07, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I use GIMP. GIMP is probably, in my and a lot of other's opinions, the best program to use. If you are unable to use GIMP, just give Pixlr a try. 16:28, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

So in conclusion, we all have different programs to make our chararts, so just go and try out and see what one fits your liking ;3 17:26, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well is gimp a website? Or do you have to download it, because of not having high speed this I will really enjoy trying to create/tweak images -.-

Yes you must downlouad it, if you want create cats. Leaf-storm,19:24,August 10,2011(UTC)

You can use Sumopaint too, but I've never used it before. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  12:52, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Join Request
Hello mt name is Firefang and I just wanted to know if I could join thx

-- 15:15, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the talk page. And yes, you can join, and a lead will add you in as a kit. We're still debating about the kit system though. 20:27, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sure! I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines and some of our apprentice tutorials to get started. Welcome to the project! <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:31, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch!

23:01, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Where's my name? do I do it?

23:48, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, but a lead will add it soon. Only leads are aloud to edit the name table. :3 Shadewing ''' Mischief Managed...  00:52, August 11, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

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Commenting
Hello. I was just wondering, are apprentices allowed to comment on the art? I know I can't do any art, but I wanted to at least try to contribute to the project. If we can't, that's fine, I was just wondering. :) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  14:40, August 11, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Of course Shady! Everyone can comment on art :) <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  14:48, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Join?
Can i join please? I really like making chararts. Thanks,

DaRk <font color="Red">RiVeR 15:12, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sure! I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines to get you started. Welcome to the project. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 18:00, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join also,as a kit?The gost,11:16,August 14,2011.(UTC)

Can I please join someday as a kit? Sizzelsparke

Sure, you two! A lead will add you both in soon. 18:05, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Tweaking images not nominated
Are we allowed to Tweak images if they weren't nominated? Cause there's some, like Jagged Rock Where Heron Sits that really need tweaking but they're not nominated. I wanted to do his image, but I don't know if I'm allowed to.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 20:12, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand why it wouldn't be allowed, as there are some that need it badly, such as Rippleclaw's that is being done now but was not nominated. If the leads decide no, they can gently decline it and you can do it next time. The worst they can do is that, you know :) 21:16, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Rippleclaw wasn't nominated? Oh. Alright then, I'll get working on Jag's image. ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:49, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Name
Hey, so i am now a warrior, how ever, My name isn't listed on the reservation table, so can someone add me, or can I put the cahrarts I wanna do, up even if my name isn't on it, I wanna Do Adderfang's Deputy image, and MothWing's kit image. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:32, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I put my own name on the table, as long as you add a new section for you and don't mess with others' sections, it's ok 21:38, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone else do it? Everytime I click 'Preveiw' Mintstar, ends up on a side... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:57, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Done 22:19, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 22:39, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Join/Kit
Hello I'm Gingerleap I was wondering if I could join Project Charart. I'm really good at making cats you can check too :)

Yes, you can join, wait for a lead to add you, then you'll be a kit. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 21:52, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Join/Kit
Hello I'm Gingerleap I was wondering if I could join Project Charart. I'm really good at making cats you can check too :)

Can I be added as an apprentince? Its been more than a month 22:14, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

When wew you added? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:14, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

June. 17:31, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Squirrelflight the firetruck......
So, I've noticed that Squirrelflight is bright red, and if I recall, cats are NEVER bright red. While I get that she's dark ginger, that DEFINITELY isn't the same as bright firetruck red. I honestly think we should fix it. I volunteer myself(even though I'm not the best at tabbies), but if anyone els wants to try, feel free. Here's her picture as it is now, by the way: 03:53, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, that's not even dark ginger. That's....really bright ginger. xD I think someone messed up when making it. I say it needs to be recolored / darkened. (btw, NICE TITLE. I lol'd) 03:59, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. She's been bugging me for a while, though. 04:06, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I see her red on my computer but on notebook is orange Leaf-storm,13:04,August 12,2011(UTC)

Dark ginger, to my knowledge, is kind of a brownish color, or a champagne red color. If I get one of mine done soon, I woldn't mind helping to work on one of her pixils :3 23:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The text....
is Green. And small. small and green, I adimit it is cool, but I cant read it at all, due to my eyesight. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:31, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Crookedstar's Promise Characters
Hi. I noticed that the characters that only appear in Crookedstar's promise don't have a charart. ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 18:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

That's because we're doing Tweak Week. 18:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hello, (couldnt think of a title)
Hi, May i join this project?

If so i would like to post a few questions here,

Sol: i have a question about sol's images. On the cover of Long Shadows, sol has a tortoiseshell pelt that looks nothing like the picture on the wikia

Leafstar's kits: Will they get an image? im just asking, i know this isnt the right time since its tweek month.

Kind regards from 23:10, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you may join the project, and a lead will add you in. We don't usually go by the official art, and yes, Leafstar's kits will obviously get images. 23:42, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you in. You can look at the Guidelines and some tutorals to get started. :3 02:00, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Joining Request
Hi, I was wondering if I could join the project as a kit. Thanks! --Frosted Apple 15:22, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes you can, thanks for the intrest of joining, wait for a lead to add you, Welcome to the PCA^^ Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 16:15, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you in, and you should look at the Guidelines and some Tutorals. 02:04, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Can I be an apprentince? Its been WAY more than a month now 17:26, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving
I saw this discussion somewhere else, I forget where, but someone brought up the topic of just regular warriors archiving a picture after it has reached its 24 hours. I think we should do that, as it seems we usually have to wait for a lead to archive it, and I believe it was yesterday that we had about 40 images, 5 of them needed archived. Should we do that? I think it would be a great idea, as sometimes images get overlooked and forgotten. 19:24, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't really think that's necessary. If I'm able to come on I usually look for images to archive, and we have plenty of other leads who can archive too. Just be patient. ;3 19:51, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Limits
I've seen this, and I'm posting a little question on it. Should we continue allow people to post images over the limit because "their image needs to be archived"? To me, the image is not approved until a lead announces it and archives it. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, I've just wondered this for some time now, and then decided to bring it up on here. Sorry if I'm mistaken. 19:57, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I agree. I don't think it's that hard to wait a little longer to put your image up. I'll try and go through the images everyday and archive the ones needing to be archived though. 20:01, August 13, 2011 (UTC) F

Welcoming Users
Hey guys. I've been seeing a lot of users welcoming new users in. I know you're just trying to be nice and all, but in the guidelines it says regular users aren't allowed to welcome new users until a lead adds them in. So just letting you all know. ;3 01:56, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Really? wow...that is...kinda dumb... (not to be offensive at all) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 05:12, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

That's lame. It really is. I always welcome new users, because the leads aren't always around to notice the join requests. If someone doesn't answer a member, they get impatient. >.> From a new member's PoV, it makes the rest of the members of the project seem rude and unwelcoming. 05:13, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with you guys. That's kind of a silly rule. It should be changed IMO. I mean, what's the harm in welcoming a member a little while before a Lead adds them in? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:15, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Besides, what harm can it do? They're automatically accepted anyway 15:12, August 14, 2011 (UTC)