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Willowbreeze (K)- For Approval
Here she is..... Comments? Echostar229 03:37, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink darker/more dull. 03:39, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any silver parts, maybe add some streaks or patches? Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 03:57, March 16, 2011 (UTC) scratch that. Darken the whole thing a tad. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 04:48, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Echostar229 01:31, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:19, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Echostar, you can only have one image up for approval. As of now, you have two; Oakheart and Willowbreeze. I don't know what happens next, another user probably know though. MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well she stopped working on it I think. Echostar, I suggest you put withdrawn by user on Oakheart's image, or we can see if it'll just be declined because the image may not be needed. Oh and brighten the highlights a tad on the image. :3 20:12, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

I did put the words 'Withdrawn' on it, and the image has been removed from the page. I had stopped working on him about a week ago, in case no one noticed my lack of updating him, me starting a new image, and the big words in the title. Oh, and, reuploaded. Echostar229 01:25, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well you never actually specified that you had withdrawn it. So please do so in the future. Add tail shading, add shading to the fore arms, add shading under the chin Night  shine  01:29, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Weird, 'cause it said 'Withdrawn' next to it on my computer before it was archived. The light's coming from the left [her right] so I don't think she would have chin shading. There's also shading on her arms and tail. Echostar229 01:38, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

I was the one that put withdrawn there. There should be shading under the chin since all other kit chararts have that and it makes it look less flat. Darken the shading on the forearms/tail Night  shine  23:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. Reuploaded. Echostar229 00:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Darkhallows... Mew? 04:57, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. 01:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think the shading's gotten worse...... :S Echostar229 03:53, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest.  Mistfire 1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading go all the way across under the chin/ the neck. 22:54, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest and tail. 22:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Go blur crazy! Cardinal fire My fluffy yellow cake!

Thin out the shading on the top of the chest. It needs to round out more, to fit the shape of the chest. --  Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 07:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Will anyone help me with blurring? Echostar229 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken her shading to make her look more like her other chararts up for approval because they are darker than this..Honeybreeze 18:32, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help =) And the colouring is fine; you don't need to fix it. Enlarge the earpink a bit and then blur it --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:31, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest lots.  Mistfire Spring rainfalls  20:22, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/blur that little highlight on the tail tip or lighten if that was shading. 00:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it and reuploaded it for you, Echostar =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:45, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add/lighten the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more even, and center it. 00:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken tail shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten or darken the earpink a tad. 17:02, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I take it you're not working on this anymore since you reserved another. Night shine  00:37, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I haven't reserved another. My grandma just died, so i haven't been able to work on this. Sorry. I'll go reupload this. Echostar229 00:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry! I thought this was Wildheart's image so I put it as withdrawn. I'm really sorry for your loss. Night shine  00:50, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

So sorry! Can I take over? ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 00:59, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Echostar is still working on this. Night shine  01:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still doing this. :S Echostar229 01:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I wonked up the shading again... :S Echostar229 01:22, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

blur the chest shading. 01:23, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a little bit. Night shine  01:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur chest shading LOTS.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:00, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink when you darken it. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:19, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

You might have to re-do this, she looks like a two-toned cat now. 00:47, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It'll be fine as soon as it's blurred and the shading is thinned out on the chest. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:41, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:18, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Its been 9 days...blur the chest highlight. 22:44, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, ah, Mistystar? It can get annoying when people repeat things that have already been stated several times. Ravensoul101 and I were in a car accident, and currently I have my right hand in a cast, and since I'm right-handed, getting on the computer can be hard. I'll try to work on this tomorrow. Echostar229 02:22, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

My mistake; I'm so sorry! I hope you get better soon =) 18:23, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little sloppy. And try to darken it just a tadSandstormrocks32 22:52, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I ended up re-doing it, and I need desperate help with the shading. Can someone help me? Echostar229 02:38, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

I can help. What do you need help with? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:32, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you didn't fill in the area for the ear pink. But other than that it's pretty great! Sandstormrocks32 17:43, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 00:25, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  00:56, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Echo's still working on this. Her comp is having issues, and it won't be fixed for a few more days. @Wildheart- she needs help with blurring the shading, and is wondering if you can help with thinning it out. [She's standing right behind me while I type this, so that's how I know. :P] 03:23, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Is the nose color supposed to be greyish? Sandstormrocks32 23:22, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Um, are Apprentices allowed to comment on other Chararts? Whether they are or not, I'll say this: Darken the earpink a tad. Apart from that, I think it looks great!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:20, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, her nose is black on her apprentice Charart, but maybe all apprentices have black noses. I dunno.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:25, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, apprentices are allowed to comment on chararts lol anyway, I reuploaded it for you, Echo. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:45, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, it obviously didn't work. Reuploading again. }  wild    heart   ~    02:35, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 21:24, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Okay, Tigerheart re-posted! Comments? --  Moon  leaf  17:36, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

This looks better. I can't think of anything that would need touching up. I don't think it could use more blurring, either. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 17:42, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes a bit. 18:34, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

How? 21:18, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means make them more noticeable. 21:38, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried. 21:54, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes and make the ear pink more noticeable. Night shine  21:57, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make the stripes a bit more wavy to they match the pattern in his alt. apprentice charart. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 00:39, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little and blur it. 01:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is it too dark? 17:04, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Just a tad. Can you lighten up his back just a little bit? <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 17:13, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't a torn ear mean that the tip is completely torn off, rather than having it nicked? Maybe change it to that. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink a bit. 22:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Dang, forgot to sign 00:21, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more and maybe add some by the belly and up the back. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:12, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading between the stripes a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 17:42, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:52, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

He only has a torn ear and here it's completely ripped off. Make it so that it's torn. Darken the stripes, add a few more tail stripes, darken shading and add neck and belly shading Night  shine  22:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded What a fail! o.o 23:51, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and they seem to be in one blob. The face, shoulder, haunch, tail and leg highlights should all be separate. 02:12, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:39, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

make the shredded eat less rounded and make it more pointish. 18:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Reuploaded Now more failz 20:03, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make his match like the one on his current warrior image, and then make where you re-draw the line for the ear a bit thicker. Maplepool 23:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

No keep the stripes whre they are, dont make it match its warrior image. Maplepool its been decided that it should match the other alts. 23:55, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear a bit bigger; right now it looks like there is no ear at all =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:33, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Tell me if the changes show. 15:01, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

No, Iceheart, I was talking about his ear, I know the stripes stay the way the way are, im not a idiot -_- I was talking about make the ear look more like the on on his current warrior image and when (s)he redoes it, make it look more the rest of the lineart, a bit thicker. Maplepool 15:37, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm a girl, and there's no torn ear on his warrior charart :/ 19:58, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:52, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:55, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Huh, I swear i was atorn ear on him once... but do as Mistfire said other that i see no other changes need to be made, as far as I can see. Maplepool 22:30, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are really big and thick and the highlights still appear to be one huge unseparated blob, and they need to be blurred a lot. 01:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think the stripes look fine. 04:49, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad and match the colours a bit better to the apprentice alt. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:52, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and sharpen the stripes a lot. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:58, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I used the sharpen tool. Now it's more failz. 19:36, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Instead of using the blur tool and setting it to "sharpen", use the smudge tool to smooth out the edges into points. Blur the shading a bit. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is very uneven. Make the colours match the ones on his alternate apprentice image Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

So I should re-do it? 19:53, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

It's up to you. If you think you can fix all the commented areas without redoing the whole image, go right ahead ;) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid it :D 17:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry guys, the changes aren't showing :/ 19:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Try uploading it until the new version shows up Night  shine  01:14, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Tried, but it doesn't work >:( 02:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I found this link that leads to the redone image, hope this works: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110330020521/warriors/images/archive/b/b9/20110330020532!Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png 02:31, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Much better =) Perhaps you can just delete the one up top and replace it with ^this one^ so it's easier for us. Blur the stripes a bit. --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's working now, so it's okay. 17:12, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the tail highlight. 20:10, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:38, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it more triangular. Blur the stripes, darken the shading. I also don't see noticable shading on the stripes. Night shine  07:06, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's hard to make the earpink triangular when the ear is torn off. 14:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:34, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 16:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the head, blur the other stripes, add one or two more stripes to the tail. Make the ear pink more triangular. Night shine  17:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Move the shoulder highlight more forward, towards the belly, so it matches where the other highlights' placement. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:44, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 14:20, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Move the ear pink a bit higher. 21:50, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:31, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome job! Maybe just darken the shading a tad. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:48, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 23:03, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! I don't think anything else needs improvement :D 23:07, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Where's your light source? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:24, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'm thinking the visible side, the side you're looking at. 00:29, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sooooo... comments? 17:09, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading by his jaw, blur the shading on the tail and on the chest. Nice work! <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:10, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks :) 01:39, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I tried to comment, but it edit conflicted twice. The light source can't come from where we are looking from, as there wouldn't be any shading =P I'm thinking it's from the top left hand corner, from where your shading and highlights are placed. If this is so, move the shoulder highlight forward to match the other highlights' placements. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:43, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took a lame guess there xD 01:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink is a tad too red. Darkhallows... Mew? 02:59, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened it. 17:34, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little bigger, darken the shading Night  shine  23:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Bright the highlight onto the muzzle and forehead, blur the shading a tad, and darken it by the jaw a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:08, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Bring* Sorry. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add haunch shading. Night shine  01:09, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) 01:33, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 04:21, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

He isnt that golden... Make him more brown, OK?Scarface9lives 13:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)Scarface9lives

Reuploaded I don't think I can blur much more. And Scarface, this is an alternate. 14:42, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:07, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can't blur anymore. 15:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the tail shading, desaturate this a little bit. Make the ear pink triangular Night  shine  00:37, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can someone help me with the earpink? 13:17, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I can, if you'd like.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:10, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Mistfire 22:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

This is kind of green now... It needs to be a lot more golden. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 23:33, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:49, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

It still looks kind of green... Lighten the shading, too. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:23, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 13:56, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink. Is it just me being picky? Because it still looks green to me... Anybody else? --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:43, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't look green to me. 16:34, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't look green to me, either. And this seems way too dark, please lighten the shading if possible. -- Cloud skye  13:27, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:17, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the shoulder highlight and move it so that it covers the whole shoulder. See here for a guideline. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   05:19, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :S 19:56, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Blur the hauch highlight. 22:47, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:59, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes some more. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   21:15, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I used the smudge tool. 15:45, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the whole thing a bit. Darken the highlights, make the ear pink triangular. Night shine  22:49, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ARRRGGGHHH!!! This is what happens if I try to make the earpink triangular! I need heeelp!! 17:19, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Want me to help?

Oops, /\ that was me, anyway, I made it a bit smaller, made it fit in better, hows this?

I'm sorry if it bad, but, meh I tried. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:42, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think that you should try to make the legs brighter so you can see the stripes betterSandstormrocks32 22:58, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Maplepool. And I think the legs look fine. 23:13, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink is way too red, plus the coat and stripes are more of a brown, the only thing that makes him look golden is the highlights so he looks shiny. 18:02, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Do you think I should re-do this, then? 01:13, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I think so. Sorry... wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:39, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Waiting for the changes to show... 15:31, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, the changes are showing. Darn, I forgot the shading and highlights! brb 15:32, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I added shading but no highlights. I took the earpink from Lionheart's deputy image, and coloured the eye differently. 15:36, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I thought about this for a while, and I think I should withdraw this. I don't feel comfortable with it, and I just can't seem to get it right. Is that okay? 01:15, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

If so, can I take over this image please? :) ♔  S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 03:27, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, you can take over :) 14:28, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink. 21:56, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

I love it! Sandstormrocks32 17:45, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I checked the Current Projects Section and no one has reserved this yet... 22:24, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, no one has added my name to the list again :O I'll continue on this. ♔ S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 06:14, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, lighten the earpink. 21:51, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the stripes pontier. I was SUPER bored and made a redline of them based on his apprentice pic, but I'm not sure if you'd want it or not. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 09:25, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Put it up anyway, Paleclaw =P blur the stripes and the stripe colour doesn't match the apprentice alt. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:48, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, there it is. You don't have to use it, like I said I was just really bored, but feel free to if you wanna. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think the red line one looks better Sandstormrocks32 15:05, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

It does :P Make sure to blur the strips when using the redline. 22:15, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the line art where the ear is nicked. 22:42, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe brighten the highlight near the top of the tail a tad. Is the earpink too dark, or is it just me?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 08:49, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rosepetal (A) - For Approval
Toadstep seems to be getting one, so Rosepetal shoud as well. Not so proud of the stripes on this one. Cronstructaments? 02:16, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section. Make the earpink stand out some more. 02:18, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Take the eye colour off her warrior charart, fix the blurred lineart on its head, and make the stripes like the ones on her warrior charart. They just look like random swirls right now. 02:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, shouldn't this be declined too? Toadstep's was decbe sides, they were never seen as apperentices, so unless frostheart, or Nightshine say it can stay I think it might be declined. Maplepool 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Frostheart wants them to have images. I think it has a chance. 22:08, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, don't just go saying random things before you know the whole story. There are reasons it stayed up. :P 23:19, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more stripes on the back so it matches the warrior pixel's stripes. Lighten the tail highlight. This looks good =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:18, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  17:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripe style just looks way different from her warrior charart. Examine it for a little while to see what they look like, and copy off of it. Also, define the ear pink. 17:42, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried my best to copy the stripes. 19:25, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There is one part right before her tail tip which is lightet then the rest of her tail, darken that, other than that very nice Maplepool 22:43, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too dark, and still kind of big, and while they look more like her warrior charart's, they're not quite there. And what's cronstructaments mean? xD 01:10, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

See if you can edit the colors to match the shade of her warrior charart's. -- 01:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten/darken the earpink and maybe try blurring the stripes. 16:28, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone just redline where the stripes would be? That would help a lot DX 20:01, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:21, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest outlining the stripes in the 'smudge' tool, that would blur them a little. 21:33, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

You said you wanted a redline for the stripes? Here it is XD You had the right idea, but a couple of them were off. Basically, all you have to follow is where the stripes meet the lineart, but you can take artistic license with the rest, as we haven't seen the right side of her body yet. So go crazy =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:44, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the redline, Wildheart. I owe you one xD 21:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes' color. 22:20, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

No problem =) Maybe add some stripes to the front leg and the front of the haunch. I didn't add any to the redline because I didn't want to influence where you put them =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:51, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

On the back leg, there is an area that isn't blurred. It's the tip of the bottom stripe. Ivystripe 00:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Reuploaded  21:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

You could another stripe to the front of the haunch... 21:13, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make all of the stripes consistent with eachother. The one on the front of the haunch is what all of them should look like (color wise) in my opinion. 22:10, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 21:05, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes and define them =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:01, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, it seems to almost blend in with the pelt color. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  17:34, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm going to withdraw this; anyone who wants can take over. 16:39, April 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll be happy to take this over for you for you Lone Wolf. Okay everyone I made the few edits that were last said, but I'm not done blurring as I have to go for tonight. Comments for now?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:04, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * There are some places that are the base color, not the stripe color, and should touch the lineart, unless that's what you were going for and they are the sides of a stripe? Ivystripe 18:33, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Sharpen the stripes =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes look like the ones in the redline. 23:25, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes skinnier.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:22, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt color more creamy-pink like her warrior image. 96.51.53.81 17:01, April 9, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Lighten the stripes a tad, blur the highlights, and define the ear-pink. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:23, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded Finally found time to upload this. After studying the earlier image with Rosepetal's other images, I redid Lone Wolf's version completely to give her the pelt color as the rest of her's. I gave her the red markings like you wanted Mistystar and added in the markings from her other images. I don't really think making the stripes skinner will actually work with this Mistfire, but tell me what you think. And yes Ivystripe thats what I'm going for. Comments?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:33, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make everything a little more pinkish. Lighten the stripes and blur them. Darken the ear pink, blur the shading. Night shine  00:36, April 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 04:18, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * She looks a bit too pinkish... I dunno if she's supposed to be, but make her creamier brown.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:12, April 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think I might wait for another response on this if its okay with you Mistfire? Her kit image is rather pinkish than cream while her warrior image is less pink, so I want another opinion before I change the image around. -- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 00:05, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I actually think the pelt colour looks good. Perhaps add some stripes on the bottom of her haunch, to fill it out. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:29, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes, and blur the shading and earpink. 21:17, April 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded....I think I brighten them too much but maybe that's my opinion.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:51, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the ear pink more visible, and blur it. 22:09, April 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 23:16, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing a tad and redden the earpink a bit. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:31, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hold up Wildheart, first you said the pelt fur was fine, now you say darken it. I never touched the pelt color, just the stripes.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:13, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Haha sorry... I dunno. My opinion changes on things, and I took a look at the warrior image and it looks a bit brighter. You don't need to change it if you don't want to, though. Which image are you following? Her warrior or her kit? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   05:12, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * The warrior image...I find her kit image to be "too" pink if you ask me. Her stripes are hardly visible on it, that's why I chose the warrior one. So you say the warrior is brighter than this one?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 04:07, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say that the warrior one is a tiny bit darker than this one, but it's not as bad as I originally thought it was when I asked you to change it =P Brighten the earpink a tad. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:55, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear clor because it's hard to seeSandstormrocks32 23:05, April 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded I darken her a tad and tried messing with the ear pink...it's rather hard to find one that goes good with her pelt color.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 23:04, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

There's a random light patch on the front paw which needs darkening, and fix the blurred lineart in the ear. This is loverly XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 05:43, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops how did I miss that? XD Well fixed and Reuploaded-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 21:01, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

One of the haunch stripes looks kind of weird. Make it more triangular. This looks great! 22:34, April 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but do you mind telling me which one it is? I think you're talking about the one closest to the tail, but I'm not sure. Just want to make sure before any edits =)-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:27, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

There's still some blurred lineart in the ear. Other than that, this is great XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 02:51, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten the stripe a bit. :3 20:15, May 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * The only way I can really make these stripes lighter and go with the pelt is by lightening the entire image...sorry about that. And I think I finally got that weird lineart I kept missing.Reuploaded-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:06, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit. 03:53, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt. W) - For Approval
She was described as a black-and-silver cat in Forest of Secrets on page 15. Comments? 23:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the black on the tail, make the ear-pink a tad smaller and brighten it, darken the shading on the white parts, and brighten the highlights. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:07, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:00, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white areas silver. Smudge the black transition. Add eye colour, blur the ear pink and blur the shading Night  shine  00:03, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:32, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! I like the markings! The silver still looks white, so darken it a lot, and darken the shading as well. Move the ear pink up a bit. 00:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the black near the shoulder area. 01:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Silverstream.warrior.alt.png 02:47, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How do I rename it? And I'll thicken the black later when I have time. 03:44, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rainwillow: Whatever you are using to edit your image, save it, left click, there will be a list of suggestions, rename it Silverstream.warrior.alt, and upload it as a different image and replace the current image with the different one.  Icy 123   ♥  14:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the shading. 16:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the white some more; it still looks white, and not silver. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more centered and blur it. Smudge the black transition. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it still look white? Could somebody help me with the black and the shading? However much I blur the shading, it still looks the same. 11:07, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not to dark, it looks like gray. I would try along the side between white and gray. So its not gray, but its like a light gray, 13:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I can help blur the shading. I'll do it right now, and I can lighten the silver parts like Feathermoon said too. =3 21:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mossy! 10:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... When she was described as black and gray I think they meant she was gray with black stripes, her being a tabby and all. It's like saying Brambleclaw is black and brown... Darkhallows... Mew? 06:17, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Actually she was described as black and silver not black ans gray. XD It didn't say anything about her being a silver-and-black tabby on page fifteen in Forest of Secrets, but I could always fix it. Anyone else who agrees with Darkhallows? 10:25, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I thik that it should stay like this; It isnèt the same kind of thing like ginger cats, they natrally have stripes. Silver and Black cats have never had natral stripes unless listed as tabbys. (Feathermoon but not logged it :3)

Feathermoon, what? A silver and black tabby is very possible. She's a tabby, mentioned as black and silver/ I was thinking that too, but I just never got around to mentioning it. xD Rainwillow silver is a shade of gray, same thing. They never said anything about her being tabby on that page, but she IS tabby. :P 22:09, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...You do have a point there, Mossy. And since she is a tabby, I will agree with Darkhallows. 22:19, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

This (click) is a silver tabby. I would describe that as black and silver. Darkhallows... Mew? 01:17, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

So is it agreed? Should I change this as a silver she-cat cat with black stripes? 04:39, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I belive so. 13:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Blur the shading and haunch highlight. (This is Mintstarr.)98.22.139.18 21:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Considering her main picture is a silver tabby, I don't think she needs an alternate. Darkhallows... Mew? 06:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wait....so is this going to be declined? Frostheart? Night shine? What do you guys think? 11:35, April 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the ear pink smaller. Smudge the transistions more. Make the ear pink more reddish. Brighten the highlights. Fix the lineart on the tail. -- 01:25, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the black more stripey or tabbylike.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  02:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, im not the lead, or deputy, but, I think that Silver-and-black is different from, Silver tabby, Im just an apperentice, so my opion my not mean much, but I still think this should stay up.... Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think this should stay up since black-and-silver is much different than just a silver tabby. -- Night  shine  17:54, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, since it's going to stay up, do I have to change it to a silver cat with black stripes as Darkhallows said? 02:14, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

That's what I would do, but I guess it's up to you, as it didn't specify. Blur the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:53, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Okay, after I read all of these comments, I decided to make Silverstream's alt. image into a silver cat with black stripes. I made the stripes similar to Silverstream's warrior image, so I hope it looks okay. Does the silver still looks white? Mossy, are you still going to help me blur the shading? If not, could somebody help me blur it? 07:20, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 01:06, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * bangs head on desk* I hate myself for making those hard forsaken markings! Anyways... ^^ you missed a few of the markings on her leg from her warrior image, basically on her hind leg and forepaw thats like behind her from our point of view. Also blur and I'll help if Mossy isn't able to. Also don't forget to add in shading and blur the ear pink as well.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:38, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to be blurred as well. The edges of them looked smudged-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:17, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How about now? 01:39, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

The markings on her back still seem a tad blotchy where the black meets the silver :/ what program do you use by chance?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:07, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I use pixlr. The stripes looks fine to me. 02:14, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rainwillow; the stripes look no blotchier then the ones on her regular warrior image. All I would suggest is shrink the big black spot in the middle of her back a tad. 02:44, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes dont mave to match her warriors image because this is an alternate. Someone tried to match the Tigerheart stripes on an alt and someone said they didn't have to match. But if you want to do it like this, you can. 96.51.53.81 03:32, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Re-uploaded. I made the black spot a bit smaller. Does anything else need to be fixed? 08:23, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular because on your picture it shows it where one part of it is full but the other side looks kinda wrong...Honeybreeze 15:28, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, Rainey! Lighten the ear pink and center it. 22:47, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading on the black parts needs to be defined a bit. The grey parts look good! Ivystripe 00:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Re-uploaded. The earpink is horrible! Could somebody help me on it? 04:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Fixed the earpink again with Frostheart's help. Does it look to bright? 04:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. And maybe add some stripes to the back leg farest from us. 23:31, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Anything else? 11:06, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The markings need smudged a little more. Make it flow with her shape. 00:42, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Er, I don't think the markings need to be smudged. That's for two different colored cat. And I if I blur the stripes, it'll look to blotchy. Anybody else agree with Ivystripe? 04:28, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. I also think the markings should be smudged. Darken the shading as well. Night shine  01:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Er, could someone help me smudge the stripes? I'm not very good at that. 11:06, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I could try helping you smudge it, but I don't know if I'm allowed since I'm working on a charart 14:21, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I can help, if you'd like.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:30, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Icestorm is helping me now, but thanks for the offer. 03:39, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, too.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:17, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit. 22:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

If anybody is wondering why I haven't been working on it, it's because Icestorm and me are trying to figure out a way to darken the shading without runing the smudged stripes. 11:52, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I can help with the shading if you want. Night shine  22:46, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

You can? Thanks Nightshine! =D After Icestorm smudges the stripes and uploades it, you can darken the shading. 23:40, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The stripes are smudged now, thanks to Icestorm. Nightshine, you can help me darken the shading now please. 11:11, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

This looks really good! Make the earpink a bit redder and blur it. 16:03, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I tweaked the shading. I had to also get rid of some of the old shading so the stripes are a bit thinner. Night shine  05:46, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nightshine! It looks great! So....comments? =P 12:16, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the front paws and right above the back legs. Other then that it's BEAUTIFUL! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:22, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very pretty *pets Silverstream* Do what Paleclaw said above. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:45, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear color more red Sandstormrocks32 23:11, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:25, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How about now? 12:38, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look really strange. . . the only thing that really makes it look like a classic tabby is the two stripes on its back. If you're having trouble, I could redline it for you. o3o 17:59, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I made this redline of a classic tabby cat, use it if you want to. :3 19:18, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I like ^that^. Blur the shading. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:45, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Someone attacked the page, and removed the image that was up here, and replaced it with something else. I got the page back to what it was before it got edited. I'm sorry if that's not the right image up. -- Cloud skye  18:46, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

You should do the red line one because it does look betterSandstormrocks32 21:53, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

I am using it. I'm just not done with it yet.... 11:17, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''It looks...horrible all over again! (except for the stripes. XD) Anyways...help? 12:39, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great! I like it better than the old one Sandstormrocks32 23:26, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! 23:32, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Does this look any better? 23:53, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Totally, I would blur the stripes just a tad, and make the earpink cover more of the ear, it looks great though. At el  da  01:18, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded How does it look now? 03:07, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge all of the stipes, add shading. Night shine  06:01, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll do it ASAP. 06:03, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Looks awesome! Fill in the white pixel on her haunch. 21:52, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink and make it bigger. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:54, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

You should make thw hole body light or brighter. NOT the stripes the stripes are good Sandstormrocks32 15:08, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tweaked it for you, like you asked, Rainy. People: you'll know when the changes are showing when the white pixel on the haunch is gone. }  wild    heart   ~    02:26, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Wildheart! 04:22, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge all of the stripes. Some of them don't look smudged or blurred at all. Add shading/darken the shading. Make the ear pink triangular. Night shine  06:11, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks kind of smudgy. Fix that, and everything else said above. xD 21:56, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Can anybody help me again? 04:21, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

@Nightshine and Mistystar: the changes still aren't showing. But as soon as they are, Rainy, save the image and change the earpink/shading. }  wild    heart   ~    05:40, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Are the changes showing now? 10:46, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 08:40, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 04:00, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it look better? 08:14, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make sure all of the stripes have been smudged. Darken the shading more. Night shine  02:34, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ivypool (W)- For Approval
Here's what I got of her so far! Critique? Ivystripe 02:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Pretty good! Blur the highlights and earpink some more, and add some smaller patches. She also has white paws, so fix that. Lighten the white some more, too, so it doesn't look so gray, and add shading. If all the darker gray is the shading, thin it out. 02:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Dont make the highlights so bright. 02:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and lighten the silver fur. -- 02:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Extend the highlights on the forelegs, brighten the highlight on the gray part of her forehead, darken the ear-pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:13, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I had a feeling I made the shading too dark. By the way, I got the ear pink from her apprentice image, so I thought that should be right? If not, oh well Ivystripe 16:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Make her white where you had the gray (like her apprentice image). Darken the ear pink to a darker colour. Also whiten her paws and where was the tail-tip from? I'll need to check her charart at the moment E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:41, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened the ear pink, lightened the shading, tried to add more light parts to the legs. Ivystripe 19:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Lighten the whole thing up, it looks too grey. 19:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I uploaded the fixed version but it's not showing. This isn't right....Ivystripe 19:54, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Make the highlights bigger and make the earpink more triangle-shaped. 19:56, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Stunning! blur the highlights a tad, and lighten the white, to make it look, whiter....(<FAIL WORD DX) there seems to be a lighter part on her legs, IDK what it is, so blur it out, if its highlight, its dosen't go there Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:25, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Make the highlights more visible, and blur them. 23:08, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the gray a lot, and smudge the patches too. And the stripes looks different. . . also the big patch on her back doesn't make sense with the markings on her apprentice charart. And she had a gray patch on her chest. 01:31, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great so far! Center the earpink and make it more trinagular. 04:48, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I can update this at home, but for some odd reason it won't let me type, so I can't say when I re-upload it. Please be patient with me. I looked at her kit image to get her spots the way they are. What's different about the stripes? Do you mean that I should make them thicker, thinner...? Ivystripe 16:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Completely redid the spots and stripes, lightened her silver/grey color, and fixed the ear pink. Ivystripe 19:59, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The markings still don't work. Here she has one huge patch on her back, but on her apprentice image she has two patches on her back. 23:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

But also, that's her other side. I looked at her kit image to help her with the reverse side. If I reversed this warrior image of her, THEN I'd need to use those exact markings. 23:20, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you need to add the chest patch because on her apprentice charart it comes over to this side of her. Also, the edge of the patch on her chest is kind of sharp. Make it a little rounder and more natural. Brighten the shoulder highlight and make the earpink a little more red. Darken the tail shading as well. 23:48, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, I see. Lemme go fix that really quick... 23:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:06, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

It's her other side, but the patches aren't attached and they can't randomly go from unattached to attached. 01:28, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I referenced off her kit image as well, and that's how I percieved it. Do you think maybe you could redline what you mean? I'm just not sure exactly what you're envisioning 209.34.114.210 13:56, April 7, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed it]

The shape of the patches doesn't have to be the way I drew it, it just needs the space between them. Smudge her patches a lot more too. 07:15, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I hope this looks alright. 19:59, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Oh! You didn't have to change the patches' shape, just put a space between them. :P 21:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think it looks better, but it still doesn't look right though. I might need to smudge it more.... 21:12, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the patches so they match her apprentice image and blur the shading. 04:29, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

No, it would make it much darker than in her apprentce image. I picked the colors off her charart. 11:29, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 11:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights and darken the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  15:03, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

This is great, Ivystripe! Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:44, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, it looks kinda lumpy. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:35, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 01:18, April 11, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur the shading; the white is a bit too inconsistant. The patches are beautiful! --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:33, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I cannot blur the shading any more, all I can do is smudge it. No matter how much I smudge it, it just never looks right to me :/ 01:38, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink some. I can help with the shading if you want... =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:42, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:07, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Lighten or redden the earpink, and blur it. 22:09, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:22, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Neck shading needs to be blurred, so does the leg shading. The earpink needs to be changed, brighter or darker, not too sure. And there is some kind of color outside the lines. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  01:59, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

And you might want to blur the edges of the markings a bit. They look a little too smudgy. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:48, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Man I hope this is finally the right earpink color 21:14, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Sadly, no, I don't think it is. Use the apprentice tutorials to find the right one. some of the highlights look blotchy. And there is still some gray outside the image which needs to removed. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:16, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, this looks great! Just make the ear pink redder. 23:33, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid the ear pink entirely, tried erasing the shadows outside the outline, and I tried to blue the shading some more. 19:42, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

I feel mean saying this, but the earpink is too neonish. And the highlights could be blurred some. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  20:35, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

I took it from the apprentice tutorial like I was told to do. If this isn't right then I don't know what color to make it :/ 00:16, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah lighten the earpink a bit. Maybe dodge it on like 5% and then colourpick it and redo the earpink. The charts aren't exactly accurate. They're just guides =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:37, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Still don't think this ear pink color is quite right. 00:22, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit paler. Maybe take from Mistystar's leader charart? --> <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:34, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 14:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around the charart 17:14, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And make the earpink bigger  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   21:32, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the ear-pink a tad. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 23:39, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Define the gray patches, it blends too much with the shading. Night shine  22:45, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

''Note: I am having some computer issues at the moment, but I am going to try saving the xcf. file to a flash drive and working on this at school. This shouldn't take long until I can reupload this ''71.72.151.61 22:55, April 19, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Looks perfect! :)Sandstormrocks32 23:15, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

This. Is. Beautiful. Ivystripe. Blur the earpink just a teeny bit.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:05, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

The smudging on the two patches on her back looks a bit messy, and make the ear pink larger and a bit lighter. 17:56, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Hopefully the rest of the waste around the lineart is finally taken care of! 00:12, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Neaten up the edges of the tabby patches and brighten the earpink a tad. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:48, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:40, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/add shading to the tail. This looks great! 16:05, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thin out the neck shading, blur the earpink, and erase the waste around the charart. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:58, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see the waste around the charart. Could somebody help me fix that? Or, at least, where is the waste at? I can't see it. 209.34.114.210 13:30, April 26, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Reuploaded Did all suggestions, tried getting rid of the waste...I thinned out the neck shading, but now her neck is bothering me. Does anyone else see that? 19:57, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it might just be my home computer. It looks fine at school, but her shading doesn't match her apprentice shading...should I try lightening the shading or leave it as is? [Ivystripe not signed in]

Yeah the neck shading could be blurred a bit. The shading doesn't have to match =) just the markings.  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    01:29, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried blurring the shading as much as I could, but it looks to me it could still use more. 13:35, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I love it! Sandstormrocks32 23:12, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

The patches really need to be defined against the shading. Lighten the shading where it's the most dark. Night shine  00:52, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I had to redo the neck shading since I couldn't save it on my computer, but I went ahead and lightened it. Does the redone neck shading look okay? 13:41, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yup. Could be a bit thinner, though. Brighten the earpink and then blur it so it's smoother. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:02, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 16:24, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes look more like her apprentice's image and make the earpink a tad smaller. 20:06, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

But on her apprentice image they are on the other side, I tried copying from both the apprentice and kit images, keeping both in mind. [Ivystripe not signed in] 65.31.51.134 22:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't mean like totally match up, I just meant the style of the stripes. :P 22:34, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

But I don't see how they're not similar...? [Ivystripe not signed in] 65.31.51.134 00:14, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

They look fine. Don't change anything. }  wild    heart   ~    01:56, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, well what about the ear pink? Do you agree that needs to be smaller? [Ivystripe not signed in] 209.34.114.210 14:26, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, a bit. And maybe redraw the earpink because it looks a little bit too blurred right now. I meant don't change the stripes :3 'cause they're bootiful haha   }   wild    heart   ~    03:24, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid the earpink, I don't know if the changes are showing yet because of wiki uploading problems. 16:35, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well can you at least define the stripes? :P 21:04, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand how they look wrong though...do you mean darken them? I got the stripe color off the kit image. [Ivystripe not signed in] 71.64.142.101 22:44, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around the charart. 00:45, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Umm can you tell me where? I double checked around all the lines and I don't see any [Ivystripe not signed in]

Yes I meant darken them. Make them stand out more. :3 20:31, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Mmk defined stripes, I also added a tad more shading to the tail. I still can't see any waste around the charart. 21:15, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Any suggestions? 01:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the white areas a bit. Define the patches a little more. Night shine  02:33, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Brook (KM)- For Approval
Comments? Ravensoul101 02:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger nad lighten it. Darken the shading and blur it. Darken the nose colour. Smudge the markings. Night shine  02:43, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Move the white pixel in her left eye, it makes her look kind of cross-eyed. Brighten the highlights a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:15, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Make it a darker colour. Also make the ear pink not reach to the tip of her fur. Even up the fur. E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:38, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

The markings on her flank could be smudged a little. Ivystripe 19:55, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Add shading under the chin and to the bends in her joints. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, darken it and make it triangular. 01:59, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes. 07:10, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a little cross eyed. 21:47, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a bit. 04:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't change the eyes, mainly because it's the same eye pattern that's on almost every queen. You guys must of been mistaking the gray for the white. Because of that, I darkened them a little. BTW, you don't have to repeat things. It can get annoying. Ravensoul101 15:07, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink/make it more visible. The stripes on the top of head head are blurry and messy. 17:58, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder. 22:05, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her back. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:10, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too greenish. Fix it, please. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:18, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticable and blur it. 23:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:39, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I'm currently in the hospital, recovering from a car accident. I won't be able to reupload anything until tomorrow, though, since my computer time is very limited. Ravensoul101 02:19, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ouch, get well soon! And blur the highlights. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:08, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more dark. Other then that it's a great charart of brook as a kit motherSandstormrocks32 23:17, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Could someone help me a tad with the blurring for the shading? Ravensoul101 02:26, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

I can, if you'd like. I can also blur the stripes a little while I'm at it.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:53, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the base coat, make the ear pink more visible and I think this will be ready! 17:55, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and change the pupils; right now she looks cross-eyed haha... wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:51, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink and fix the eyes. 23:12, April 27, 2011 (UTC)\

Please work on this or it will be declined Night  shine  00:50, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Raven's still working on this. His comp is having issues again, and it'll be a day or two before its fixed. 03:20, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

I can't work on this anymore. I just don't have time between school and my injury. Sorry. Ravensoul101 13:22, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I can take over. 13:23, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, fix the eyes, blur the shading and darken it, and define the earpink a bit. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:05, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, lighten it or redden it, darken and fix the eyes, and everything Wildheart said above. XD 21:28, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Just plain darken the earpink, mostly. I think it's nearly red enough. There's some gray lineart on the front paw furthest from us. It's some of the paw detail. Blur the shading on her back.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:01, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 18:02, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Since Frostheart agreed.. I decided to do it. I admit, this is the first one I've done from scratch. So, comments anyone? Cloud skye  16:46, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt color lighter and more brown. Make the earpink smaller and get rid of the blurred lineart on the ear. 20:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the highlights that leaked onto the lineart on the tail. 00:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. . . how do you not do a charart from scratch? o.o Anyways, the highlights are a but too bright and the ear pink is too big. 01:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means not having to copy the pattern of stripes or color from a previous charart of the same character. XD Anyways, nice job! Maybe make it just slightly closer to Sasha's color. Looks a bit too orange in my opinion right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Paleclaw, that's exactly right. And what I did was I used Sasha's coloring, since it says she's a tawny, but I darkened it ever so slightly. Re-uploaded. Does it look any better? As for the ear pink, I took it directly off of Sasha's rogue image, so I hope it works. Cloud skye  19:02, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights on the chest, haunch and tail; they are way too bright. 19:24, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and darken them. 20:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Cloudy! Center the earpink. 04:49, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Highlights darkened, blured and ear pink fixed. Comments? Cloud skye  12:40, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading, make the ear pink a little smaller. Night shine  01:00, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a tad more and add a clearer highlight to the top of the tail. 02:03, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Back shading blurred, ear pink fixed and I added a highlight to the tail. Cloud skye  12:47, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/lighten where the shading meets the highlights by the haunch on the back. 02:48, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading and darken highlights.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:12, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I suck at this, honestly. But does it look better? Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 18:25, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights have been blurred too much. Sometimes that happens; they get discoloured. You may want to choose a lighter shade of your pelt colour and pencil it over the highlights, then blur that, but right now they're turning greeny-gray XD --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

This is what happens when people tell me to blur to damn much. I'm just going to re-do this. Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 12:34, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I re-did the image. Jeez, this is an annoying color to work with. Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 12:58, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. 22:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm having ear pink issues. but anyways, Re-uploaded. Does it look any better at all? -- Cloud skye  12:46, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess. I can fix it for you if you want... 20:35, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the highlights and thin out the shading on the chest. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:42, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and if this is the tawny alternate, make this a little warmer in tone. Maybe a bit more yellowy-orange-ish. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:43, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

I took the color straight from Sasha, who is tawny colored. Re-uploaded. -- Cloud skye  16:06, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't look like Sasha's colour anymore. It looks like a sickly light brown. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   05:07, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm losing my mind trying to get this right. I re-did it, and this time, there is almost no shading. I had to darken my highlights though. -- Cloud skye  12:59, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart is a boy. Darken the ear pink. 19:53, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Not a boy, a tom. :P And the ear pink could be smaller. 22:31, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

And blurred. Where's your light source? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   23:49, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'm worried...bluefur and oakheart are both she-cats now, and they had kits....im really scared, change th gender from a she-cat to a tom. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 09:45, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink triangular and even. 17:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the lineart. I wasn't paying attention wehen I opened up the file. I fixed it and I'm working on the ear pink now. I'll have it up momentarily. -- Cloud <span style="color:#6C2DC7; font-size: 75%; font-family:Lucida Handwriting">skye 13:34, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Gender issue fixed and ear pink fixed. I was working on a laptop without a mouse when I did it the first time, so I had to re-do it. -- Cloud skye  16:18, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! The earpink still is hard to see. Darken it. 16:54, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit and darken the earpink.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:28, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Highlights/ear pink darkened. I won't darken the highlights anymore, because then it won't look like there is any there. -- Cloud skye  17:43, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The highlight on the shoulder looks like it's too high. Maybe move it down a bit if possible. And the ear looks like it either wasn't shaded, or it has a highlight on it, and I don't think there should be, so darken that. Otherwise, this looks GREAT! :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:07, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I fixed it. Does it look better? -- Cloud skye  12:26, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink more.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:51, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I won't darken it anymore. It'll turn purpleish. I think it's too dark to begin with, but, eh. Oh, well. -- Cloud skye  16:22, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and shading/highlights. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:56, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ear pink blured and shading/highlights. -- Cloud skye  17:21, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the pelt colour around the earpink and enlarge the highlights/thin out the shading. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   01:03, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Around the ear pink? Okay. I did what I could, although I don't really understand what you want done. Re-uploaded anyways. -- Cloud skye  19:06, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 22:32, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay. Better? -- Cloud skye  17:40, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Blur the shading. 23:23, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the earpink a tad more. 00:26, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay. I've blurred the shading about as much as Photoshop'll let me without killing the lineart. As for the ear pink, I also blurred it, but not a whole lot. -- Cloud skye  16:31, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. I don't see a light source in this. -- Night  shine  00:49, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Shrink the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and fix the eye lineart. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:08, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Whoops. I thought I fixed that. Sorry. As for light source, I really don't get what you mean. (*is confused*), and I shrunk the earpink as well.Re-uploaded -- Cloud skye  17:28, May 2, 2011 (UTC) I like the highlights--Sandstormrocks32 23:00, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno if the changes aren't showing or what, but the eyes still have two extra pixels. Check out an approved pic for a resource. Blur the shading/highlights. A light source helps you to gfigure out where your shading and highlights should go. In this case, you don't really have one, so your shading/highlights don't make a whol lot of sense. They're not terrible, but they're not exactly sensical either. I would recommend using this guide for shading. It always works for me. }  wild    heart   ~     01:54, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I started over, and used Nightshine's tutorial on shading. Does it look better? I must say, I really understand it a whole lot more since I read that. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 18:29, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, the changes aren't showing up on the page, but the actual file does show what I did. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 18:10, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

It looks a lot better :D Blur the highlights. 21:53, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks! I blurred what I could, and I also enlarged the ear pink every so slightly. It looked like nothing was there. xD -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:32, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the red waste around the fuzzy part of his chest. -- 16:28, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Blur the earpink and the shading/highlights. }  wild    heart   ~     01:26, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Dovewing (W) - for approval


Mmmm k. I have Dovewing's warrior image. :D .Skystar. 22:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Completely darken the image to match her apprentice with means darken the shading a TON!Honeybreeze 22:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

This needs to be moved to the right section, unfortunatelly I cannot copy and paste, so could you or somebody move this image to the right section? Ivystripe 22:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

How do you put it in that section? I got no idea. .Skystar. 23:05, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Its been moved. Make the chest highlight bigger, and blur it. 23:13, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. .Skystar. 23:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink, make the tail highlight go along her tail rather than just having a ring of light, make the highlights on her shoulder and flank a bit bigger, move the light onto her forehead on her face, and darken the shading. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. .Skystar. 00:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around her and darken the highlights 01:36, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing so it's closer to her apprentice image's color. It looks a bit too light right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear-pink, darken the shading more and make it looked rounder, it looks kinda flat, and add shading to her jaw. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'll have to edit her later. .Skystar. Oh!! Waffle time it's waffle time, will you have a waffle of mine? 02:29, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the shading. It looks messed up. :P 04:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add earpink and blur and/or darken the shading on the back of the haunch. 19:22, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add ear pink. 22:25, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on her back/back of her leg is sharp, it needs to be blurred. 23:39, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Trying to blur the shading on her haunch. .Skystar. Oh!! Waffle time it's waffle time, will you have a waffle of mine? 00:35, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, center the ear-pink and make it larger. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

How bout now? .Skystar. Oh!! Waffle time it's waffle time, will you have a waffle of mine? 01:04, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink triangular :3 01:56, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I also have a really good Dovewing warrior Charart, but it's at my dad's. Can I upload it, and see if you guys like it? 17:44, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Should I do anything with the shading, or is it ok? (I'll edit the earpink later as well, I have to go.).Skystar.- Owner of all tulgy puddings 01:57, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shadin a lot; right now it looks like you just added shading to the haunch and then added highlights. Blur everything a lot =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:59, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't want to make the shading too dark though, she is a pale grey she-cat and I don't want to make her too dark of a grey. .Skystar.- Owner of all tulgy puddings 22:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

It's fine Skystar, the shading does need to be darkened a lot. If she looks too dark after that then someone will tell you to lighten the whole image to fix it. Make the ear pink larger, it only covers half of the ear. 22:38, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

ok. How is this for darker shading? Don't wory about the blurring and wrong name and stuff, if it's ok I'll add it after. .Skystar.- Owner of all tulgy puddings 23:33, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

We cant tell if it's dark enough if its not blurred. But from what i can tell it needs to be darker and definatly much thicker. 23:40, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. re-uploaded. .Skystar.- Owner of all tulgy puddings 23:53, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, blur the shading. There is blurred line art in several areas. Night shine  00:57, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Even darker shading?.Skystar.- Owner of all tulgy puddings 01:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, even darker. 03:27, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights need to be blurred too. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  15:00, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights are blotchy. Blur them. And darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:30, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading/highlights near the eyes. Other than that, look good! :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:45, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

On her back, it looks like you blurred a little of the lineart. 01:28, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

blur the haunch shading. 21:55, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice, but blur the highlights. 23:39, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font face="Chiller" size="5" color="5C3B7A" >Ze godly Supernubbeth (<font face="chiller" size="3" color="B392D3">(Talk) ) 22:07, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights are still kind of blotchy and too light. 22:13, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Blur the shading/highlights and saturate (then lighten) the earpink. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:49, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, pretty good, for a start. <font color="#0998FF">Petalwhisker <font color="creamy- brown">aaah! Spring fever!!!! 18:14, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

You might have to re-do this, the shading and highlights are too blotchy. 20:54, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, it'll be fine. It just needs to be blurred a lot. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   21:54, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And rename this Dovewing.warrior.png 22:29, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

How about now? <font face="Chiller" size="5" color="5C3B7A" >Bran flakes with water (<font face="chiller" size="3" color="B392D3">(Talk) 07:02, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

REmane this Dovewing.warrior.png(don't ad png, if you use plixr, it will add .png after it), its ok to over right the one you already did. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:55, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

There is a lot of blurred line art. Night shine  22:41, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Good job? Darken it like every one else says. ICEY! Awesome Cats! 03:29, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights equally light, some are lighter that others. 18:55, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:27, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Was this approved? Its on her page, so is Ivypool's. Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:32, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think it was because so many people said it was great. Witch it is! :)Sandstormrocks32 23:21, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

It wasn't approved. Some silly person keeps on putting them up. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:50, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

How? And will somebody change it back?Sandstormrocks32 22:31, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

ok. Re-uploaded. <font face="Chiller" size="5" color="5C3B7A" >Bran flakes with water (<font face="chiller" size="3" color="B392D3">(Talk) 06:39, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 06:02, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font face="Chiller" size="5" color="5C3B7A" >Bran flakes with water (<font face="chiller" size="3" color="B392D3">(Talk) 04:53, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights a LOT  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 20:52, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading above her eyes- it makes her look like her muzzle is lighter in fur color than the rest of her body, while she's just one shade of gray. But good job so far. :) 99.135.167.249 23:52, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

There is too much shading on this overall. <span style="color:salmon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:maroon;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:saffr;">MINTSTARR  I need a new siggie!  00:14, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is still extremely blotchy, you might want to redo this. 00:49, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'll have to edit on monday. <font face="Chiller" size="5" color="5C3B7A" >Bran flakes with water (<font face="chiller" size="3" color="B392D3">(Talk) 02:25, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded, but I can't blur anymore, it's as much as it'll do. <font face="Chiller" size="5" color="5C3B7A" >Bran flakes with water (<font face="chiller" size="3" color="B392D3">(Talk) 21:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

If you can't blur it anymore, I'd suggest redoing it, as it sorely needs blurring. }  wild    heart   ~    01:49, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, especially the tail and haunch. 21:50, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I had to revert it to your image, Skystar, because somebody overwrote it with a hideous image of her. So, it's fixed for ya :3 20:28, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lol. I'll try a new one, should have it uploaded on Monday or Tuesday. <font face="Chiller" size="5" color="5C3B7A" >Bran flakes with water (<font face="chiller" size="3" color="B392D3">(Talk) 00:15, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Splash (PH) - For Approval
Splash as a Prey Hunter. Comments? Leopardclawxx 09:25, April 6, 2011 (UTC)



Blur the stripes, add shading to the jaw, and add mud streaks. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 12:29, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes more like his To-be image. Crystalstar999 13:47, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Match the colors on the to-be image, and its a her, Crystalstar. XD 20:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I've redone the pelt colours and adjusted some of the stripes. I've also redone the shading and added mud streaks. Anything else that needs changing? Leopardclawxx 06:29, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

The colours and stripes still seem way off to me, copy the pattern off her to-be image and colour pick off it too. Do i see blurred lineart along the top of the head and on the ear? 22:33, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink and add/darken the shading on the haunch and beneath the tail. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:58, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I've just started it again,basically. I've copied the stripes as best as I could from the to-be image and colour picked from it too. Comments?? Leopardclawxx 07:45, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The darker brown (mud, I presume?) could be a little more blurred. I really like this though :) 19:38, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think that looks better. I've smudged the mud streaks. Comments?? 20:00, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The mud could be blurred instead of smudged. It looks like part of the pelt.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:34, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:42, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes a bit, lighten the ear pink, darken the shading. Night shine  00:22, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 10:10, April 10, 2011 (UTC)\

The bottom of the ear pink looks unfinished, and add/ define the shading near his forepaw and head. I really like how you did the stripes though, amazing! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 03:29, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? 06:28, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a bit. This is lovely. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:50, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think this is better. Comments please? 06:14, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe even a bit more... =P  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   06:16, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Happy now? :) 06:24, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yup. Haha. Except maybe brighten the earpink a little more... haha just kidding. Go comment on my pic? =P  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   06:26, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

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Lighten the brown area, her to-be image is paler than this one. Night shine  22:40, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 19:04, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:07, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mud streaks, its hard to tell where the stripes are and where the mud streaks are Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:50, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm back! I've defined the mudstreaks and improved the earpink. Do you like the light image (Left) or really light image (right) best? Comments please? Leopard claw xx  WindClan forever! 15:15, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I like the right. It looks better and makes the mud streaks stand out more. But both are OK... Amberfire3, RAVENCLAW!!!! <font color="gray" style="background:blue;border:2px dotted">Smartypants!!! Luna is awesome!  03:59, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think you're right, Amberfire. So, comments on this one, please? Leopard claw xx  WindClan forever! 09:43, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 23:25, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading needs defined a little bit. I really like this! 00:23, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded   Leopard claw xx   WindClan forever! 16:18, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes and smudge the mud streaks. Night shine  00:48, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the mud streaks to make them blend into the fur. 19:49, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the face highlight. 02:00, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redone (Again). Leopard claw xx  WindClan forever! 17:11, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

It's beautiful. Blur and enlarge the earpink and it'll be perfect ;D   }   wild    heart   ~    01:48, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded   Leopard claw xx   WindClan forever! 18:35, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little more. Night shine  06:04, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

This is great! Redden the earpink. 21:31, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Leopard claw xx   WindClan forever! 17:11, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. }  wild    heart   ~    02:09, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded   Leopard claw xx   WindClan forever! 15:00, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

There's a tiny bit of blurred lineart in the ear. Fix that. }  wild    heart   ~     05:09, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval


My first image! Anyways, comments? 12:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights Crystalstar999 15:10, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the little shading outline lots, add highlights to the back, head and tail, add shading to the legs. 19:34, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

There is shading on the legs xD Nevermind! But you know what I mean XD 19:36, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Blur the highlights, redden, enlarge and center the ear pink. 22:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and title this Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval...nvm, I'll do it XD 22:11, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the ear-pink, and add a highlight to his face. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:54, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the neck and belly and thicken it. Fix the blurred ear lineart. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:02, April 7, 2011 (UTC

With request from Willow, I am going to help with this image. ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 11:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 04:35, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading tons, add highlights, and enlarge earpink.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading Night  shine  00:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:14, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I can work on it now. Thanks anyways Yatz. BTW Can somebody give me a color for the earpink? 12:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

You can use this chart to determine the earpink colour:  15:34, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

and blur the highlights. 00:02, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the neck and the belly and blur it. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and blur it tons. 20:00, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Could somebody help me on this? Because I'm confused. Some people said to darken the shading and then suddenly another person says to lighten it. 10:39, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say lighten it, but if you followed this guide for shading the image would be a lot better =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   00:04, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

you can also blur the shading so that it flows from light to dark/ light to dark. Also redden the ear pink just a tad, if your not scrutinizing it, then it can disappear to the viewer. Amazing work Willowwhisper! (and great name!) <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 23:06, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Atelda! =) Could anybody help me fix the shading? I tried it, and it looked horrible. 11:49, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help with the shading. Night shine  22:30, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I tweaked the shading and ear pink. Night shine  22:38, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nightshine! It looks awesome! 03:08, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the shading a bit. 19:10, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:02, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Should I sill blur the shading more? 10:34, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Willow! 10:52, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, blur the shading a bit more, as well as the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:03, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Sorry I haven't been able to work on this. My grandma died suddenly a few days ago, and now my dad is at the hopital because of a car accident. Anyways...comments? 12:09, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Why does everybody on this wiki have bad luck? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:11, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good the only thing is you might want to make the earpink smaller and blur it more Wild  fire  01:46, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I keep blurring the shading, but it doesn't look any different! Can someone help me on it again? 11:20, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'll blur it for you! 20:44, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I re-uploaded it for you, but the changes might not be showing yet. 21:00, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, my computer isn't working very well. Here it is with the shading blurred. 21:10, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be a tad bit brighter 00:21, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the ear pink needs to be a bit darker. If you lighten it then it will be even harder to see. Smudge the shading all around. Darken the shading. Night shine  00:47, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

You should also add a little shading to the tail, otherwise it looks great At  el  da  03:12, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

So...let me get this straight. Darken the shading,darken the earpink, and smudge the shading. Is that right? 11:03, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

LOOKS AWESOME! Apart from the fact that I can barely see the earpink. Darken that a tad, Willowwhisper. Darken the eye colour a tad, too. Only a tiny bit. It's a TINY bit more pale than before, and it had a hint of green to it and my first glance. Take a look at my first Charart(for PCA). It's Stormfur's prey hunter image. Mine sucks!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:13, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Don't critisize your own charart XD And define the earpink. 22:48, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How does it look? 11:51, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton and blur the earpink. :3 20:27, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred it as much as I could. 08:43, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the ear and right side of the head. Do you need help blurring the shading? Because it is still sorely in need of blurring. }  wild    heart   ~     05:12, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Dark (to-be) ~ For approval
Dark Shadow on Water as a to-be. Comments? I'll name it Dark.alt.tobe (I think) when I edit it next o3o Done :3 19:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights and blur the earpink. :3 19:55, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Dark.tobe.png and you don't have to make a new file to make changes. 19:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I made a mistake, rename this Dark.tb.png 19:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and lighten it. 20:54, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see any shading. You only have to do the light parts since Dark is a black cat. If you want to do shading, make the black lighter. 00:46, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I took the color from Cora's charart (since she is a black cat) and used it. I now realize it's way easier to shade now. 01:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bunch and extend it upwards a bit. Lighten and shrink the earpink. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Used Cora's earpink. 19:27, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Move the ear pink up more, it doesn't really. . . fit the ear and blur it. Darken the shading a lot. 22:32, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Contrary to Mossy, I would say make the highlights brighter instead. It looks dark enough to me. :3 02:01, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I can hardly see it at all. If she brightens the highlights he might not look black. 03:25, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. Darken the shading. Also, I think there's osme blurred line-art in the ear. I'm not sure. 03:29, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps erase a little bit of the bottem of the ear pink so that it looks more natural. Good charart! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 03:57, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 02:45, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Either darken the shading or brighten the highlights. Looks epic Splook :3 04:36, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Cool, Splash! Darken shading and brighten highlights.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Thanks :) 17:01, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

define te shading a little more, i can hardly see it, but it still looks great! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 03:25, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the ear pink. 21:53, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  02:02, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 01:15, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and blur the shading. This is very nice =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks :) 03:30, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on his back just a tad, and the ear pink looks like it has a little chip in it, that looks odd. Great work on the reddening the ear pink, and just amazing. :) <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 23:11, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Splashpelt isn't going to be working on this for a few weeks due to some obligations in real life. She will resume working on this in around two weeks, so don't decline this for lack of work. 01:02, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the notification :D Make the earpink more triangular, and blur it. 19:12, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the legs.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:58, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

I am back! Thanks for saying that Nighty :) Mkay, -resumes working- It will be up today! 19:37, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. 19:47, April 29, 2011 (UTC)'''

Make the earpink a little bit smaller. This is loverly XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 00:45, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Loverly? XD 22:41, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and the highlights larger. Awesome Splash ^.^ 00:29, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yus. Loverly. This is LOVERLY, I see nothing wrong XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 05:39, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Loverly eh? XD 19:37, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the paws, neck, belly, and bottom of tail. Night shine  06:03, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 19:35, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Maybe lighten the shading a bit. 21:36, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading looks fine. Blur the earpink a little bit. :3 13:57, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Sorry for the delay =) 21:12, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

This is love(r)ly, I see nothing wrong. }  wild    heart   ~     05:14, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Stoneteller (OTS) (H) - Withdrawn
Ice Cave never reserved this and I had it reserved yesterday. Comments? 22:04, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear-pink, darken the shading on the herbs and tail, and remove the brown pixels by his front paws. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:14, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink on the left side is larger than the right side. 22:16, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I really like this one. ^.^ Remove just a bit of the mud streaks. 22:18, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 22:30, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, right now he looks like a brown-and-black cat. Make the mud look more like streaks and also make the ear pink more reddish. Darken the nose. Night shine  22:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I kind of like the way it looks like he rolled in mud, instead of just separate streaks... blur the shading though, and make the eyes a little less red XD --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 23:01, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Wildheart. I think it looks nice. Add more shading to the herbs. 23:17, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The fur on the toes completly lose the line art, lighten it up a little so we can see the individual digits on his paws, or cover it completly in mud. It looks strange when the lineart gets lost like that 23:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can see all the toes fine. There seems to be a bit of colour outside the lineart by the base of the tail. And blur the highlights (mostly the haunch one). 00:39, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

AMAZING! I also like how the mud looks. I honestly can't see anything wrong that hasn't already been said. Nice job! :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I am so insulted...I leave for 2 days because my cat almost dies and my pic gets ignored. (Ice Cave)


 * I got the ear pink and nose pink from his cave guard image. The eyes as well. Also, the mudstreaks are that different from Night's:
 * I got the ear pink and nose pink from his cave guard image. The eyes as well. Also, the mudstreaks are that different from Night's:

11:13, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well is Crag, not Night, so going by her isn't very good, but make the mud streaks a bit smaller Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:17, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, they're different cats but I doubt that would effect how mud shows up on their pelt. I think it's fine. Make the nose black and darken the ear pink. 22:30, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. I read in the books that the healers never leave the cave, so I don't think they would need to have mud streaks. Night shine  00:54, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

But we added mud streaks to queens, and they don't go out either. 03:24, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with mossy. Healers might actully have mud streaks to blend in with the senery and have protection like if Sharptooth, (when was alive) were to come into the cave, The mud streaks would help them blend in better so Sharptooth wouldn't spot them. This could go for queens too. Fea ther  22:57, April 8, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Actually, the queens do go out, as shown by Brook in SotM. As beautiful as the mud streaks are, I think Nightshine's right. Sorry... --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Really? They like go out and patrol and stuff? Or do they just like go out for walks? Did it actually say that Brook got all muddy and stuff? XD 07:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:47, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Then, why does his proceeder have mud-streaks?

17:06, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well when I made that image it wasn't clarified that the Stonetellers don't leave the cave. I think they should just have no mud streaks. Night shine  00:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Mossy: it didn't explicitly say she got muddy, but she did go out hunting, so I'd assume she did get muddy XD And I'm sorry, Moonflight, but I agree with Nightshine. Make the eyes a bit less red and smudge the pelt colour into the earpink. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:42, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the ear pink. 21:52, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

It's nice the blank I made is being used :) The left (our left) foreleg could use a little more gray. He looks more like a brown cat than a gray with mud streaks. It looks amazing though! 02:16, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 19:12, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit, blur/smudge the shading. The nose should probably be black or gray. Darken the herb shading<span style?"font-family:AR JULIAN;"> Night shine  22:25, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:39, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the tail and blur the rest of the shading. This is nice =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    05:24, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 13:10, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, this looks awesome! Blur the shading on the chest a little. 19:15, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * It won't blur any more. Sorry. 19:50, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the haunch shading a touch.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:54, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't blur any of it anymore. Plus, it looks fine to me. 12:25, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I can help blur if you want. Add some shading to the belly/midriff on the right side-- Night  shine  05:33, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's okay. I'm re-doing him. 16:22, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 21:00, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge/ blur the shading a little, and dont forget to shade the tail. Define the shading on the tail in other words. Good job, love the herbs, and the earpink is fantastic! At el  da  02:53, April 23, 2011 (UTC)\

Darken the nose. This is very nice =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    03:38, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

This is very good, but I must say his "Cave-guard" cat looks grey, while this cat looks close to being black. Make the nose color the same as his "Cave" cat form as well :3 ♔  S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 07:45, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Defining the shading and blurring it are not the same thing. Which do you want? Nightshine also told me to make the nose grey, so I'm not changing it. I will darken it, however. I took the pelt color directly from his Cave-guard image, so I won't change the color. Also, the tail is already shaded. 13:24, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and darken the herbs a tad. They're a bit neon =P  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:14, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest shading more Wild  fire  00:48, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still working on this. I've been pretty busy, but I'll work on it today. 09:47, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? }  wild    heart   ~    02:11, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

No, I'm withdrawing it. I have no time for it anymore, and I'm tired of fixing things that don't need improvement. I can't satisfy everyone. 19:13, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone want to take over? 19:21, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I take over.The gost,10:09,9 may,2011,(UTC)

Toadstep (A)- For Approval
My first charart in a long time. I'm not sure I like it though x3. Darkhallows... Mew? 08:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Needs highlights. The spots look good to me, but I'd have to look at his other images to be sure. 209.34.114.210 13:53, April 7, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Blur the smudges. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:34, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

On his other images his entire back is black and he has a black chest, and the markings are smudged which they shouldn't be - his other chararts are not smudged either. And I see you made his eye blue, it should be green. The ear pink is rather small and needs darkening, and I don't see much shading. 22:26, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Only half his chest is black. Remember, this is a different angle than the other images. As far as I'm aware, a slight texture difference is okay. Admittedly, I tried a new style, it seems I should have stuck with my old one :/. It's alright, I'm going to redo this, in the long run I think that will be easiest. Also, his page said blue eyes, but that's removed now. Darkhallows... Mew? 01:22, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I personally think the tail is too solid black. If you added a white tip or a stretch of white somewhere, I think it would look better. :) Same thing with the back foot; it looks way too dark to me. 01:59, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the smudging is okay. It needs to be consistent. It's really more like three quarters of his chest. . . I removed blue eyes because it was false. And the black back still needs to be one piece too. 03:23, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Redone. '''I feel weird not doing my smudgeys Dx. Darkhallows... Mew? 08:03, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! Blur the black on his flank a bit more, darken the shading on the shoulders, brighten the ear-pink a tad, and darken the shading under the chin and by his jaw. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:08, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! The earpink could be a bit redder.

Hey, my internet is out, and I'll be gone for a few days. I exist, though!184.11.129.18 03:49, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:55, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Internet = back on! Reuploaded Darkhallows... Enter the cave? 11:22, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the haunch highlight. 16:47, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded but I couldn't blur it much more. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 17:14, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! If possible, add highlights to the tail...it might be highlighted already, just hard to see... 17:23, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

define the ear-pink a bit more. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:39, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:32, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 10:51, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

On the back foot there are some lighter pixels, get rid of those and this will be ready. Night shine  00:08, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. Darkhallows  Enter the cave?  02:27, April 21, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur the markings, darken the black, and make the ear pink larger. 06:14, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink, and fix the faded pixels on the hind leg. This is lovely =3  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 03:02, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and fill in that white spot on his belly. That's supposed to be part of the cat lol  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:17, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink larger and a bit redder. 23:30, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. 00:46, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''sorry for the wait. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 17:33, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Fill in the white pixels on his belly. They're part of the cat =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    03:17, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I have... none of the changes I did earlier are showing up yet Dx Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 04:26, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh... oops! Sorry, then. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 04:43, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I still can't see the changes. Perhaps reupload it again? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:42, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Finally showing up :D. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 02:18, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading just a little bit. }  wild    heart   ~     05:16, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Flight of Startled Heron (PH)- For Approval
Ok can someone make this bigger and do the stripes? After that I can do the erm uh....shading and ear pink and all...so yeah. I am horrible at stripes. But hey, at least I get to do a charart! :) Honeybreeze 12:34, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll do that later. Give her eye a pupil and add the ear-pink. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 12:36, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this File:Flight.ph.png. Also, you may want to look at Warriors Wiki:Charart/Apprentice Tutorials. 12:38, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

KK. One minute. Give me like five minutes and I'll reupload it.Honeybreeze 12:41, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

K. REULPOADED Better?Honeybreeze 12:46, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Needs shading. I can't tell if there's any or not, but I'm not wearing my glasses :P So it might just be me. 209.34.114.210 13:50, April 7, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Ive got one!! Any better? 21:27, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading. Night shine  00:51, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

You might want to add highlights. 01:56, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I know if you read my first post I said that I wanted someone to do the stripes and then I would shade it and stuff.Honeybreeze 12:37, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Honeybreeze, you should do the stripes. Otherwise, it's like you're doing almost nothing. Try reading the apprentice tutorials, which Moonflight linked to above. Try doing the stripes yourself. 17:44, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I tried and it looked absolutely horrible! 207.255.118.172 18:38, April 8, 2011 (UTC)(Me to leazy to get on)

If you can't do that, and you want everyone else to do it for you, why did you reserve it in the first place? I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just sayin'. Are you using GIMP or Pixlr? If so, you should be able to do it. If you have trouble, upload it anyway and have others tell you what to do. 19:35, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

YOu should try more. My first charart was horrible. But you need to practice. You can't assume everyone else will do it for you. 19:49, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink, it's got a little dip in the left side. And don't worry, Honeybreeze, you just need to keep trying. My first image was...well, pretty bad :D I made a sand-colored tabby, and I used a size ten brush for the stripes... -.- But I read the tutorials, practiced more, made some charats for other users to get feedback, and I got better. Now my tabby's are pretty dang good. Just keep practicing and you'll get better. - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 11:43, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Honeybreeze, it's going to take a while to learn exactly how to do these stripes. Trust me, my first tabby was Squirrelflight and I still remember being scold by Kitsu for using triangles and it looking cartoonish XD As an example I found a picture of my old final version of Squrrielflight. They may have been accepted after works of practice but I find it horrible compared to the work I do now and the changes I made on the current version of Squirrelflight. Sometimes, you may to come up with your own ideas for tabby strips if thats the case like I did with Silverstream (Q) or Brook (W), but beware as others will have to copy your style for other images xD Of course, if your image already has markings from other images, it's best to set those two side by side on your screen so you can draw the markings onto your image. Sounds easy, but it actually takes a lot of work to get them to look very similar. I have faith that you'll learn and soon catch on :) Don't give up so early and ask for others to do your work. OH! For whenever you upload an image into the project, just remember to select it's full size instead of thumbnail for future references ^^-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:30, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED! Gah. I think its worse. :'OHoneybreeze 15:27, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

There I de-thumbed it for you, click Full-sized image, not Thumbnail, get rid of the bloch of the dark stipr on her face, make it on her check, or above her eyes, like bumblestripe's blur the mud streaks, and lighten the stripes, make them less red-brown and more pale/dark brown, add shading to fore-paw farest from us, and her back hind paw and eat a bit more. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:51, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink and make the background transparent. Darken the shading and make the mud streaks more noticeable. Try not to make her stripes so boxy. A bit like her queen charart. --><font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:42, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the stripes and blur them. 22:00, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Her stripes look like puzzle pieces...they look cool but don't match the queen image. 00:29, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Outline the stripes in the smudge tool. Save the queen image above, upload it to where you are doing the charart and take her earpink coloring if that makes any sense XD 17:47, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Ok after a long time I finally did it over! XD I didn't do the earpink I know the pelt color is wrong *sigh* Honeybreeze 16:11, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, blur it, blur the stripes, and add highlights (optional).  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:48, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Darkened the shading, blurred it and the stripes. :) I hope this gets approved soon. I wanna do an alt. :D Honeybreeze 17:40, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! blur the stripes more, add highlights, and possibly mud streaks. 19:18, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Can someone help me add highlights???Honeybreeze 12:05, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with it but it's not up to me...Can't help ya with the highlights,. ;)Light to the night sing the song of life 14:28, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The mud streaks should be blurred. I can do the highlights if you want... 16:41, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The main pelt color is too dark, it doesn't match her queen image. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:12, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

And if you could also redden the earpink along with blurring it into the ear, it's going to be fantastic when it's done! At el  da  02:50, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

The markings are still not accurate, and the mud streaks could be bigger, but this is a lot better than that bucket-filled brown cat that you first posted XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 02:58, April 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * You've really come a long way with this :) But I also notice that the background is a tad fuzzy like different shades of white/gray. That usually comes from working with the dodge/burn tool which is too hard to fix. It's not noticeable to to some people but at the angle I keep my laptop screen it shows up really clean. Just replace the background. Let me know and I can fix it for you-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 21:09, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok Misty you can help with highlights and Shimmer you can fix that stuff.72.95.163.62 14:06, April 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I re-Uploaded. it, but the changes might not be showing yet. 23:30, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I re-Uploaded. it, but the changes might not be showing yet. 23:30, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I re-Uploaded. it, but the changes might not be showing yet. 23:30, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. Smudge the mud streaks. The colours don't really match her other image. Night shine  00:45, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Like Nightshine said, the colors don't quite match, so you could always go on pixlr and copy the colors from her other images. You should also blur the earpink and make it redder and not as bright and attention grabbing as it is now. Nice job, you've done a lot for this one. At el  da  03:09, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Add a highlight to the face and darken the mud streaks. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Fix that little thing for you Honeybreeze. Hope you don't mind, but I ended up making it transparent so it won't happen again. And I say blur the ear pink just a bit more.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 23:55, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Redden the earpink so it's more like on her queen image, and blur it a bit. Lighten her main pelt colour, so it matches Flight's queen Charart, too. Okay, don't follow the following suggestions until some more experienced PCA member agrees with me: Darken the mudstreaks, smudge them together and into the fur a bit more, and thicken them a tad. Maybe it's just me with the mudstreaks. I dunno.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 08:54, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and redden the earpink. 21:42, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED re-did the entire thing! 13:20, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Add in some shading and highlights. Make the earpink a bit bigger too. ;3 19:56, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Looks much better! The pattern looks like her queen image! Blur the earpink, and make the mudstreaks a little darker than her pelt color. 21:21, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

'''REUPLOADED! '''Ok added in shading, and made the earpink bigger, blurred the earpink, and made the mudstreaks darker and blurred so it would fit in with the pelt color. 14:01, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make it transparent. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I say brighten the ear pink just a tad. You've done an excellent job on this ^^-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:22, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Some of the stripes have leaked onto the lineart, fix them please =) Other then that, It looks very nice :3 02:05, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Talon of Swooping Eagle (E) ~ For Approval
Talon as an elder, any suggestions? <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 22:54, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading. 23:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ok sorry i wasn't thinking with my last post. Rename this Talon.elder.png and this needs to be a tabby that matches his other images. 23:13, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

You also need to add a scar across his face. 23:15, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh boy get ready. First of all he's a long fur. Darken the fur, add stripes, and make the ear pink a little tiny bit more pink.Honeybreeze 23:20, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks, one sec lemme reupload it. <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 23:28, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes should be darken that the pelt. Look at his other images to get a sense of the colours and the style of stripes. Darken the shading and smudge the stripes. Night shine  00:43, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, is that good? <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 02:17, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

He still needs to be long-haired. 02:34, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Right, thanks! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 03:15, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great. Smuddge/blur the scar a bit; it looks like someone drew it on. 07:00, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ad some highlights, he looks all one color to me. (Mabe add some shading to) <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 17:39, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The whiskers look blurred, it could just be me though 19:29, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

They DO look bIurred, So does the rest of the line-art... <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 00:20, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and fix the blurred lineart. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:36, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ok so i fixed the blurred lineart, reddened the ear pink a little, and the stripes are noticable. Thank you for your suggestions, anything else? My first charart and i want to do it well. <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 02:43, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

You need to add shading and/or highlights. Desaturate the earpink and blur it. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  14:59, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * There's some blurred lineart of some sort on his chest fur like right above his paws. It looks gray if you can see it.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:45, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is it just me, or is the whole bottom half of the lineart blurred? (except the paws) Make the BG transparent and darken the shading (if there is any), you can't really see it. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:24, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the bottom of the earpink needs to be blurred. Looks like you might have missed it. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:29, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what it looks like on your computer but i know i never blurred it. hmmm? and oops thanks for reminding me Paleclaw! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 22:45, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

De-saturate the stripes a bit and make them a bit browner (they look a bit reddish to me). Make them a bit thinner and add some so that the pattern matches his Cave-Guard one. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:29, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Everything in this looks blurred. I suggest redoing it or trying your best to sharpen everything up. Also you could place a new line art over top to get rid of the blurred line art, I can help you if you need any. Night shine  00:18, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 03:24, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think I found the problem with this. You're saving the charart with the file extension .jpg. This tends to make the final version of any image all pixel like which is why so much of this is blurred. You can try to save this by copying the file and re-saving it with a safe extension like .png, but more than likely you may have to start over from part one.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:17, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ok so i've posted it with a safe extension but it's still seems blurry but i'm waiting to see if nightshine can help but that's probably going to be after her vacation, but thanks for the advice for next time.

Saving it as a jpg ruined the quality and it can't be fixed now. You have to redo it. 03:39, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Why is this picture on his page, it hasn't been aproved yet. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 22:58, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

It shouldn't be... if it is, remove it. 22:18, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

It is approved. <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 00:04, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

...no it's not. Are you going to redo it? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   00:06, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, can't see without my glasses. Anyways, yes im going to redo it, but it may be one or two days before i reuploaded it. <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 00:25, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the scar. 15:54, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Did you reupload this without saying reuploaded? Because this looks loads better and is quite beautiful now. =) Perhaps brighten the earpink.  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    05:22, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and fix the little white part in the lineart on the chest. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:15, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:43, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Define the earpink, add highlights. 19:23, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ok reuploaded it <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 21:23, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 98.22.156.92 21:24, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes. They don't exactly look like the ones on his cave guard image. Make the scar angle the same way it does on his cave guard image. Night shine  05:29, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes and define the ear pink. -- 14:54, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ok so i reuploaded it, copied all the colors from the cave guard image and blurred/smudged the lines without doing so to the line art At  el  da  03:15, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice, but perhaps re-work the shading/highlights so they follow these guidelines, as they are kind of confusing right now. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:55, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! At el  da  03:24, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

What program are you using? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:39, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I use mainly pixlr but sometimes gimp, it depends on what im doing, like the color i like to use pixlr but for some shading i like to use gimp. why? At el  da  16:41, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ahhhh alright. Cause something about the shading was off, but I'm not sure what was going on exactly.You use gimp for your shading? Do you use the burn/dodge tool, or layers with different opacities? cause if you're doing the Dodge/burn tool, it might be better to use layers in this specific case. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:36, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I use the burn/dodge tool on gimp because truth is, i'm still learning with gimp and i dont know how to do layers. Could you possibly do it? Otherwise i'll redo it. At el  da  19:10, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sure I can! :) Though it's very simple to do layers, if I were better at explaining I'd show you how. I'll fix up the shading for you though. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 12:06, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! At el  da  00:40, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the belly. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:19, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I tried to fix the shading while changing as little as possible of the other things, but if you don't like it, I'd be perfectly fine with you reverting it back to your version. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:44, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Don't like it, I LOVE IT! Thank you so much Paleclaw! The shading looks amazing! At el  da  20:57, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

No problem! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:49, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good! Define the earpink. 23:32, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the ear pink needs to be lightened a lot so we can see it, it looks like he has none. Other than that I really like this! 00:17, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Ok so I defined the earpink and made it loads lighter. At el  da  22:20, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink. Night shine  00:44, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded At  el  da  01:17, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Try making the scar more bright pinkish other than that it's really good!Sandstormrocks32 03:23, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ I hope it really did upload, my computer is havin difficulties At  el  da  17:34, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

This looks beautiful XD Make the ear pink a tad more 'triangular'ish. 22:44, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ ok At  el  da  16:23, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Talon.elder.png. Make the ear pink smaller. Darken the shading on the neck and back. Night shine  06:01, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded --> Ok, so I made the earpink smaler and darkened the shading. Comments? At el  da  21:49, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

It's been a few days... At el  da  15:30, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

This is lovely, I see nothing wrong. }  wild    heart   ~     05:20, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Whispering Breeze (Alt. SC)~For Approval
I really like this one! :) Comments? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:51, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, this is amazing! :) The ear pink looks a little unnatural because there's too much contrast between the area of high concentration and low concentration. Try blurring it a tad more. You also might want to darken the shading or brighten the highlights. 01:55, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. And try filling in a little more of the ear if possible. I would possible also blur the stripes all together because at times it seems defined as two layers. The dots on the side of the head could also be blurred so it blends better with the shade of the head. Nice job! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 02:00, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done. The two-toned stripe pattern was getting on my nerves, so I did it over. Comments? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:58, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Still very nice. Blur the stripes on the face and the shading. 03:01, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)I hate to say this but, with Broken Shadow she was described as tabby and it was added to her appearance instead of her getting an alt. I don't think we need this. Her image just needs to be tweaked. 03:20, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I can see reason in what you're saying, Mossy. But Night Shine put it in her trivia, so I think she should get an alt. And if we find it unneeded, it can be deleted. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure tabby was in Broken Shadow's trivia at one point and anyways, Nightshine isn't always right. XD That has nothing to do with it. So we should approve an image that probably won't be needed later? We should deal with it now, not just put it off until after the image is approved. 07:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I like this. Define the stripes. -- 21:57, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:21, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can you actually read and listen to what I'm saying? It's really annoying and rude when you just ignore me like that. 23:33, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I did read it. But until I get a final verdict, I'm gonna keep working. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:35, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * But you didn't even do anything, or say a word. Ask someone about it. If you just leave it no one's gonna do anything. 23:49, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well I think since it was a one time mistake in pelt colour, she should get an alternate for it. -- Night  shine  00:17, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'll also ask Frosty. Anyone else you think? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:22, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good art, but I think the stripes should be added in the next tweek week. -Sunheart- 00:50, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Tabby was only said one time for Broken Shadow and her image is just being tweaked. 05:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * So this is declined? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 16:05, April 10, 2011 (UTC)+

Nope, it'll stay. -- 17:27, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, on IRC I talked with Frostheart and we decided that Broken Shadow should just get an alt, too. And the stripes taken off her image. 18:32, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay! Thank you both! :) <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 18:57, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks beautiful:) Darken the belly. 01:24, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:22, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are pretty blurry, and maybe add a few more. And this is just a suggestion, but maybe the tail stripes should start out silver instead of gray because it looks awkward the way it is right now. It looks great otherwise. 03:36, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I was only able to add in two stripes, but if anyone thinks i should add more, i may just change the pattern. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:13, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I love the pattern! Don't change it =) Maybe sharpen the stripes on her face a bit, as they're too round to match the sharp edges of the other stripes. --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:22, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a tad. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 22:43, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:14, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe add another marking (or markings, if you can fit more than one) on to the other side of her face. It looks a bit empty... By the way, this is lovely =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 08:05, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Looks awesome! Blur the earpink a bit. 22:02, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:45, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like there is some blurred lineart on the tail. Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  22:18, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:14, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the face stripes a bit more.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:38, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:47, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes on the face still look like they should be.... pointier? Maybe just make the ends of them sharper. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 03:02, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

you could also make the stripes on the face fit the stripes on the body and like Paleclaw said, make them pointier, great job, it's amazing! At el  da  01:31, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about the stripes. . . while the pattern is pretty, they're random and scant. Move the ear pink down a touch in its ear. 03:07, April 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you mean the stripes on the body, head, or all of them? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:51, April 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * All of them. 02:07, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * So you think I should re-do it? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:25, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by "random and scant"? Darken the shading. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:33, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I actually like the markings. They look pretty! And I can't see much wrong with this, just do what Wildheart said, darken the shading. Amberfire3, RAVENCLAW!!!! <font color="gray" style="background:blue;border:2px dotted">Smartypants!!! Luna is awesome! 01:40, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Still waiting to here others' opinions on stripe pattern. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:02, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripes look fine like that, but the earpink could be blurred a bit more. 23:34, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe the grey around the ear pink could be defined more, I'm not sure. Other than that I really don't see much more you could do with this, it's very nice! 00:16, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:22, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Waiting for changes to show. Fixed a couple things that were bothering me. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:06, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good other than the ear pink needs to be reddened Sandstormrocks32 03:25, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:50, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a little bit more, blur it, and sharpen the stripe on the front right leg. This is very nice =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    05:46, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I've been having problems with changes showing so sorry about re-uploading this so many times. XP <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:42, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Add a few small stripes on the torso. Night shine  06:00, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:42, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the almost-white bits on the shoulder and leg and blur the stripes. }  wild    heart   ~    02:13, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Blurred the white parts but kept the blurring of the stripes to a minimum. If I blur them too much, they look kinda messy... <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:41, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the earpink a lot. It's too hot pink =P   }   wild    heart   ~    02:48, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:51, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

This is lovely, I see nothing wrong. }  wild    heart   ~     05:22, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Cloud With Star in Belly-For approval
Comments? 21:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... This is supposed to be up in the "Images Pending Aproval" section, not the discussion area. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 17:36, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved this for you. I think you shold blur the shading down his back a bit more. Leopardclawxx 19:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little bit, it kinda extends below the ear a little bit. Make it a tad bit smaller 19:27, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Cloud (Star).elder.png. Cloud (Storm) and Cloud (Star) are not the same cats. 19:40, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, actually, they are. Think about it. The Erins wouldn't make a Tribe elder with a name so similar to another Tribe elders' name from a different book. I'm sure it was just a typo. - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, I just read the article in the discussion section XP - G  inger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:08, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, one of the good ol' characters. This is however, wonderful. Make the ear pink a bit more...well, matching the gray pelt. Add shading to the chest and forehead. And, add shading around the haunch if you aren't going to add highlights. -- 02:20, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * The heading should also be changed, just so people don't get confused. XP I agree that Cloud with Star in Belly is a different cat from Cloud with Storm in Belly, and besides, if it wasn't this would be declined. Cloud with Storm in Belly already has an elder image. Darken the shading just slightly. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. 09:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is thick and blotchy, thin it out and blur it, and make the ear pink fit the ear, it's a bit messy. 17:38, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the shading thinner, add some to the chest, legs, muzzle, and paws. -- 19:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Redo the entire image because it would be easier, and use the apprentice tutorials to help you. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  02:09, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ummm..guys, if you looked on the table, you would see that I already reserved this. Whats going on?
 * 19:47, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lightningstar, you did have this reserved. But you reserved it on the same day this was put up. I say this be declined and you work on it, but its up to the senior warrirors. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  22:07, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 19:47, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lightningstar, you did have this reserved. But you reserved it on the same day this was put up. I say this be declined and you work on it, but its up to the senior warrirors. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  22:07, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... who reserved it first? Because it goes to them. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   00:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well... I think i reserved t, did the charart, put it up, got off of my comp. and then whoever did the charart uploaded it and didnt see if anyome reserved it. 18:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I looked through the edit history and The Gost actually reserved it first. Sorry Lightningstar. Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  22:17, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 08:49, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:34, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 19:26, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ummmmmmmmmm, no, they did Cloud with STORM in belly ALT. ELDER. I did this.

20:15, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, since they are different cats, there should be one for each, since they were both mentioned as pale gray. 16:37, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Cloud With Storm in Belly was described as white. Try to make the earpink more triangular. 21:06, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink a tad more too. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:35, April 19, 2011 (UTC) URGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!! Who is doing this, me or them???????? LightningStar of ThunderClan (not logged in) XD

The Gost is doing this one, sorry. Night shine  00:08, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink also looks a tad unnatural. I mean like shade it in the direction of the ear and it goes a tad to far down. when you smudge or blur the earpink make sure you get the bottem, and smudge it to the tip of the ear. otherwise great job, love it! At el  da  01:34, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Two things

1. I put this up FIRST, and that is My image.

2.The Gost is doing Cloud with STORM in Belly Alt.E, not Cloud with Star in Belly

Lightningstar

It doesn't matter who put it up first, but you're right, you did reserve it. Sorry, The Gost, but this is Lightningstar's. Anyway, Lightningstar, please sign with four ~'s when you're on talk pages. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:30, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lightningstar, are you still working on this? If so, redden the earpink. 22:42, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

De-thumb it, and she was just described as a pale grey cat, not sure why you added those on the back. I can't see any shading on this. 23:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dethumbed. Make it a solid colored cat, she was never described as a tabby. 23:16, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

And perhaps blur the bottem of the earpink some more, and to bring out the shading, you should darken a few places just a little bit, so you don't over do it. At el  da  22:26, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

The things on the back seemed out of place... Sandstormrocks32 03:27, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading and highlights and brighten the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:14, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? Its been a week. 21:46, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, and the person who was working on it first (even though they didn't reserve it first) was putting effort into it. No offense intended ^^; 20:31, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, i will put up the new version in about 3 days time (sooner). Lightningstar (not logged in xD)

Are you still working on this? Because it's been three days. }  wild    heart   ~     05:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Stoneteller (Ancient) - For Approval
I worked on this for days and it still looks like crap. xD Constructments? 18:27, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

What? Nonsense. It looks great. Just add highlights to the eyes and herbs. 18:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten her fur, it looks more silver than white. -- 18:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 19:14, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Half Moon, I presume? Anyways, it's good. Make the earpink darker, and that's pretty much all I see. -- 19:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job, I don't see anything that could be fixed. 20:13, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I belive the herbs can be shaded a but mroe detailed. Fea ther  20:18, April 9, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Darken the shading under the chin and lighten the ear-pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading near the front left and back left legs maybe, to give it more depth. (Our left xD) This is beautiful. 8D 23:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's also a gray line under the tail. 00:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

There is a border of colour out of the line art around the tail and base of the tail. Darken the ear pink as well. Night shine  00:14, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Is it supposed to have mud? 21:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, because healers never leave the cave. 00:43, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten this a bunch. Still looks silver instead of white. This is good. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:48, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Please don't comment about the colour around the lineart, I'll get rid of it when the image goes on CBA. 22:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it some more. Where's your light source? --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:56, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a touch. This is epically, awesomely beautiful, Mossy :D  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:29, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Lighten the shading a tad bit around the back, belly, and front paws. Koisplash 07:40, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

It's been a while. You still working on this...? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:01, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I just wasn't getting many comments and had a lot of schoolwork so I figured it could wait. :P Now I have ten days off school!~ I think the shading it blurred enough, I lightened it a wee touch. 03:05, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it some more. It's beautiful, but the shading is really dark so it looks like she is a light gray cat. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:07, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

It may be just me, but it looks like the line art on the bottem of the tail has something odd going on about it, but that may be just me, and like wildheart said lighten the shading more, otherwise i think it looks amazing! At el  da  21:45, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, just to clear things up, I didn't mean lighten the shading, I meant lighten the entire image. Unless you want to lighten the shading.... but I kind of think that's more work XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:22, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the base of the tail. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:02, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like on the tail part thee is some shading outside of the charart. 00:14, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the image just a tad more. 01:08, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

You know guys. . . I can't lighten the whole image. xD It's like almost pure white. :P I can only lighten the shading, but I personally think it's light enough. And Ivystripe and Atelda, I already said I would erase that after it got on CBA. 02:13, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Just brighten the highlights and darken the shading a tiny bit then this will be ready. Night shine  00:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry I haven't been on much, I got sick and I didn't feel like doing anything productive. xD 21:47, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Uh...she's glowing with a beautiful silver light XD might want to fix that though I find it awesome.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:26, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shimmerpool: Mossy said she'll erase it when the image goes on CBA :3 04:29, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it a bit more, it still looks silver to me. 22:55, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Snow Falling On Stones(TB)~For Approval
Okay, so here's Snow! Her eye was really hard to do. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Umm...it seems kind of small... Fix the ear pink. 22:51, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and move it to the right section XD 22:52, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'll fix the ear pink but...................................I don't know how to put it into the correct section. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Moved to the correct section. Blur the shading and tone down the highlights, they look too bright. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:53, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Why is it so small? It IS full size right? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:17, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't think its full size, and the background isn't clear, either. Did you use GIMP? 01:05, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

If this isn't full size, you might have to redo it :/ Did you get the full size of the to-be lineart? 01:06, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It looks as if you used the real color white to fill the image. If you do that its not right. Use very pale gray. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  02:11, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...................I'm pretty sure this is full-size, from what I got it at. I think it's small, too. I will delete the back-ground. No, I did not use GIMP; I used Photoshop, as that's all I have. Yes, I did use the real color white to fill the image, so I will put in pale grey instead. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

When you save it, click on it, then, click the mangenfier then is should have a full size image that looks like;

<-That (With out the thumbnail) Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:46, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I took off the thumbnail, so now you can use it. 21:50, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll redo it. Thanks for the blank, I thought the other one looked small. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

And rename this Snow.tb.png 02:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay, I TOTALLY redid her. Any better? Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Shading's pretty blotchy. Blur that and lighten the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   21:42, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And perhaps define the shading a little more once blurred. Blur the ear more after lightedning the earpink, Great job, It's going to be great! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 22:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay. Blurred shading more, lightened earpink. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Wow this looks great! Comments before approval? Night shine  22:13, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be blurred and darkened. 22:19, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

And there are a couple white pixels on the very bottom of her front paw (closest to us)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 08:13, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

I see them. Die, little white pixels! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 11px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:21, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Darkened and blurred shading. Also fixed the pixels. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 11px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Define the earpink. 19:29, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and are to-bes supposed to have mud? Just wondering... 19:31, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

No I don't think they are, but I'm not entirely sure. The ear pink looks fine to me, but the shading could be thickened a little. Night shine  05:27, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a bit light.... Are they supposed to be grey or did you forget to color them in? I've done that before. ^^; Maybe make them a different color like blue or something? They look too much like the pelt color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:48, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw; try darkening the eye color a bit so it's more visible. And try lightening and shading the paws a bit; they look sort of flat. Koisplash 07:42, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

No, the eyes are not grey; they're pale, pale green. And, no, to-bes don't have mud, but I can add it if you want. 21:35, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay, darkened eye-color and defined the shading. 21:25, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten the earpink a bit more. It's a wee bit hot pink right now XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:00, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be smudged just a tad like wildheart said, (i know, shading can be a bit difficult ;D) and it looks like there is a lot of dark to the shading, so perhaps you could lighten it just a little, It's really great, good job! At el  da  03:19, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice! Redden the earpink. 22:23, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it be declined. Night shine  00:42, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! I've been busy! Almost finished! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Re-uploaded: Sorry everyone! I've been busy lately! Is she any better? 22:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading then blur it. 23:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. 00:17, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the bottem of the tail a tad more. It looks amazing! At el  da  03:15, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

And redden the earpink a bit. 21:48, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Bird That Rides the Wind (E)- For Approval
Gotta﻿ few things to say. I tried to make the stripes as consistent as possible. And I borrowed all the colors from Bird's rogue image. I'm proud of this. What do you guys think? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! The ear pink looks kind of blotchy, blur it more. 22:14, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Lighten the earpink and darken the shading/markings. Also blur the highlights. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   00:10, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

You should change this to grey-brown tabby. 17:23, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I'm not too sure that this should be gray-brown. Bird has always been gray tabby, I think she was mistakenly called gray-brown in SOTM. How's this? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  18:24, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

But then why is it on the top of the page, but not in the trivia? 21:27, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful, Mintstarr. Make the neck stripes pointier.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:33, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Changes aren't showing yet. Thanks Mistystar, Wildheart, and Mistfire. On the gray-brown, she was just a gray tabby in Moonrise and Outcast, so I kept it there. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:45, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! The earpink is a little blotchy, though. 16:32, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Should I redo the stripes? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:27, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, if you can fix them up as they are now then you won't have to redo it. You should try making the stripes look like the ones on her rogue image. Night shine  05:26, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very good! Blur the shading on her back; it sort of stands out too sharply against the pale gray. Koisplash 07:44, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I didn't change the stripes, but if they're too much of a problem, I will fix them. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:06, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripes need to be defined a little. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 18:35, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Which ones? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:30, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

All of them. Desaturate th earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:58, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

You could also smudget the highlighting so it looks more natural, and dont for get the tail for shading, nice job, love Half Moon, and the charart will make it even better! At el  da  23:04, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I think I just made it worse. I used the burn tool (pixlr users)/shading tools (GIMP and others). Is it okay? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  01:36, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

GIMP users have burn tools, too =P Darken the stripes some more, blur the shading, and sharpen the stripes. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:03, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- The stripes look really sloppy to me, I might just redo the whole image. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  15:00, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I did a new way to make the stripes. (Shading/highlights before stripes.) I think its better than the tutorials version. And I got the stripes darker, finally! <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  20:05, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Try to make the stripes on the haunch a bit thinner and let them curve a bit, they look a bit unnatural. Sharpen the points on the stripes near the head. Move the highlight on the face up a bit more so it touches the forehead, center the ear-pink and fix the blurred lineart in the ear. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:28, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- There is no blurred lineart in the ear, its part of a stripe and the ear pink is centered. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  17:34, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bottem of the earpink, and smudge the stripes just a bit, or you could blur them, whichever. And it seems like half the stripes are kind of boxy, and the other ones are pointed like triangles. It kind of looks off but that could be my opinion. It's just a thought, but it'll look great! At el  da  21:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes on the face should be a bit pointier. Nice work! 22:19, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- @Atelda, it is a tabby pattern, so its okay :). How's this? <span style="color:salmon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:maroon;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:saffr;">MINTSTARR  I need a new siggie!  00:19, April 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think it's better. CBA? -- 21:46, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Really sorry to interrupt CBA, but the earpink seems a bit blotchy, and the lineart there is blurred. Fix that, and I think its ready! 22:29, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think it only looks blotchy because that is a stripe, not blurred lineart. But I'll change it. From here on out, that isn't blurred lineart, it is a stripe. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:45, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. and make the earpink neater and smaller. 00:48, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- If this shows up twice, my computer is messing up. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  01:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading a bit. 21:06, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes a bit so they look a bit more like her Cavegaurd image. Otherwise, nice job! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:37, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading needs to be defined a bit, and maybe add highlights, or if there are, define them a little. Also, the ear pink looks weird. Make it closer to the right side of the ear, or just look at the placement of an accepted image. I hope I helped. 00:13, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- The shading is fine. And there are highlights, and they look okay to me too (I did blur them.) And on the ear I added a stripe there. I was told to darken the stripes so I don't know. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  22:01, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see any shading on the stripes. The stripes are a lot darker than the ones on her other images, so lighten them. Thin out the stripes and add more. Darken the shading. Make the ear pink triangular. Night shine  00:41, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Make the two stripes on the head a tad shorter and give a point to them. 22:49, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't like anything about this image, especially the haunch stripes. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:11, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes a lot. Right now they don't really match her cave guard image, so tweak them a bit so they do. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:26, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- the changes haven't been showing for both images (most recent two.) <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  19:49, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I didn't like that image, so I fixed it up. I hope you guys like the stripes. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  20:38, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

They're pretty good ;D Add highlights to the tail. 22:07, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like some of the stripes were drawn over the hightlights, so can you try and fix that? Other than that it looks great. ^^ 22:20, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

There are highlights on the tail. And originally, I had the highlights over the stripes, but everyone was telling me to define the stripes. I filled it in with gray, drew the stripes, highlighted it, then shaded it, and added earpink and eye color like the tutorials say to, but the shading darkend some of the stripes and the tips were brightend by the highlights. It's a confusing mess but that's why I drew the stripes over the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:55, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad. Apart from that, it looks good!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:11, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

The single stripe on the head looks kind of out of place.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 15:53, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw on that. Could another one or two be added? Like, by the eyes, perhaps? It's possible to do. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 19:06, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- ^^Fail. No, that isn't blurred lineart by the eyes. Adding one stripe was actually very hard, and making it curve was harder. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:12, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ice (Lo) - For Approval
I'm not so sure about the collar. Comments? 14:55, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken his ear pink, blur and darken shading, and his collar looks stuck to his neck. It should stick out a bit. 20:10, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely work! Maybe make the teeth a bit bigger. Should he have claws like in scourge's rouge version, since bloodclan cats have their claws re-enforced with dogs' teeth? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:14, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know. 20:17, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:20, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink, blur the shading, and add/darken it on the back part of the right foreleg. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:22, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:04, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. . . he doesn't get a collar, because he wasn't a BloodClan cat when he was a loner. 00:44, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

But he can't really take it off.... And plus Snake got a collar on his Loner image. Good job on this! maybe blur the shading a bit more. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:33, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:11, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, blur the pelt. 22:04, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred the shading A LOT 22:50, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a lot. This is nice =P  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:25, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 14:38, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I blurred it too much. 20:31, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Define the earpink, redden it. 21:56, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

The collar needs shading, make the ear pink a little more noticeable. It kinds of blends in with his fur color. 01:12, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink perhaps, and put some shading on the tail and possibly the legs. Nice job :) 184.96.25.37 03:03, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened the earpink a little, but I'm not gonna change it because I took it from his rogue image. There was collar shading, but it wasn't noticeable. 17:19, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. 23:37, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Also, define the earpink. 01:05, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:14, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink needs to be a bit smaller, it's almost filling the ear right now. Also, the back shading's a bit thick and needs to be blurred more. Otherwise, it looks good! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:09, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think the earpink is fine. And this charart looks horrible to me. 18:50, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine, but for some reason the shading still looks odd. It somewhat looks like around the lighter shading, there is a darker shade and then it lightens ups around that. I would smudge the shading or possible redo the shading, just the shading, other than that it looks great! At el  da  01:07, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redone. 02:55, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and brighten it. Enlarge the highlights or thin out the shading so it looks closer to this shading redline and then blur it. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:59, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I actually redid this, but the changes aren't showing. 16:26, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Try reuploading it again. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:30, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I did, but the previous upload turned to the redone version. o_o 00:55, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oh that's happened to me quite a few times. It may take a while for it to show the version you need, so just be patient. I think one time it took about a day for it to show the new version. 19:55, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I know what to do. It's just been a long time... or not 21:51, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 22:04, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Here's the redone version, if anyone wants to see: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110430025306/warriors/images/archive/a/ac/20110502005455!Ice.loner.png 00:47, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

The redone one looks wonderful! Perhaps redden the earpik and it looks almost like it goes all the way down to his eye, so possibly fix that. Define the shading just a tad on his body, and add shading on his tail and legs. It looks amazing!! At el  da  03:21, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There is shading on the tail and legs. And I am not changing the earpink. 23:04, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading. Redden the earpink and make it smaller. Why won't you change it? }  wild    heart   ~    03:34, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took the earpink from his rogue image, and it doesn't make any sense to me to have two different earpink colours. And NOW the changes show. 21:41, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you can take the earpink from his kit image (I made that xD), I think the earpink on the kit charart looks better. :P 21:59, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

If you say so... 00:42, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:44, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and either extend it up the flank a little, or add some shading at the along its back. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 02:23, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:49, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the teeth on the collar and blur the shading. It might help to look at this redline 'cause the shading is kind of non-sensical right now XD   }   wild    heart   ~    05:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and make the earpink smaller. }  wild    heart   ~     05:37, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Stormfur (PH)-For Approval
'Kay, it said Stormfur was a prey-hunter in Sign of the Moon, so here he is! If u think the mud streaks suck, that is because I have never done mud streaks before. Comments?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 07:16, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

De-thumbed. Blur the shading and highlights a ton, darken the mud streaks, and make the earpink lighter. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 09:25, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

There's too much mud. Blur the highlights, fix the mud on the tail, lighten the earpink. 21:50, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

You also lightened the black of the line art. If you have seperate layers, this can easily be fixed, but if it's only a flat image, you might need to redo it.... 01:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I think I blurred it a bit too much. Removed a couple of mud streaks, lightened earpink. Darkened mud streaks.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:22, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I would make the ear pink smaller and separate the mud streak on the haunch Wild  fire  01:44, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Blur the pale gray on his belly and on the back of his front leg, and thin the mud stripes. Koisplash 02:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

You're missing a ton of lineart on the belly from your highlights.. fix that, and blur them a ton. Make the earpink a little less hot-pink, too. 02:31, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Where's your light source? Blur the shading, and add shading under the chin. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:34, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the line art on the belly, and it looks like you have a little bit of blurred lineart around whole cat, I might be able to fix the lineart, but it might be a day before i reuploaded it, but it's up to you. The earpink looks patchy in the blurring, and the cut the bottem of the earpink just a tad. At el  da, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Made earpink smaller and brighter. Made mud streaks skinnier and darker, and seperated the the mud streak on the haunch. Blurred gray on belly. Blurred gray on the back of front leg. Tried to fix lineart. Added shading under the chin, and a bit more elsewhere and blurred it all, too.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:57, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

There is still waste around the charart and also some on lineart. Back of tail, haunch, and front paw [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Blur the highlights, redden the earpink. 23:38, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Fixed more lineart. Blurred highlights. Reddened earpink.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 06:52, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the blurred tail lineart, blur shading, lighten shading, add more shading, lighten earpink and add more mudstreaks. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 07:32, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

The mud stripes are sort of odd... but other than that it's pretty good! Sandstormrocks32 23:20, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

There is also some gray lineart on one of the paws. go over that with a black brush/ pencil (gimp/pixlr) lighten the earpink. You kind of over did the shading, but it can be fixed easily. Just make sure that you don't mess up the lineart when you do the edits and such, because he belly lineart looks a tad on the thin side, the ear lineart look almost covered up by the earpink. All you need to do however is go over the previous lineart with black, or put a new layer with just the lineart over it. It'll turn out great! At el  da  03:03, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

The lineart's all messed up. Maybe just paste a blank over your picture? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:15, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Tried to fix the shading a bit, and blackened lineart on paw. I'll lighten the earpink and make it smaller tomorrow. Gotta get off.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 10:38, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and make it bigger. Blur the shading/highlights and fix the blurred lineart on his tail, stomach, back, and front paws. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:46, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good but try to darken the mud streaks Sandstormrocks32 03:34, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Okay, blurred shading & highlights a bit, fixed the little bits of blurred/lightened lineart I could see on the tail, couldn't see any blurred/lightened lineart on the stomach or forepaws, but I fixed the truckloads of blurred/lightened lineart on his back. I trust Sandstormrocks32, but I wanted to see what Wildheart thought about darkening the mud streaks first. Lightened the earpink and made it smaller. I'll lighten the shading, and I made it bigger. Right now, I'm thinking about deleting this Charart I edited so much, and making a new one altogether. That might be the best thing to do, although it'll take some time.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:46, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

He should be long haired. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:13, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

''What?! ''I thought it was longhaired before. How could it have changed? Oh well. I'll just make another Charart.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 10:10, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I can see where it was long-haired. The tail is clearly long-haired However, it appears as though you erased the belly and re-drew this. It must be re-done. 18:17, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink look more natrual and make it triangular. 22:55, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Could you please help me with re-drawing the belly, Moonflight? I'd just wreck the picture if I did it. And Splashpelt, you mean make the earpink look more natural by darkening it a tad?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 23:47, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

The easiest thing to do would just be to redo it. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:33, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

You mean make a whole new one? Ya. I'll start on it soon.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:50, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Kk, I made a new Charart. Comments?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:13, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Much better! Lighten the earpink and there's still a little bit of blurred lineart at the tip of the tail. I can fix that if you'd like. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:53, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blend the mud streaks into the fur more by either blurring them or smudging them a little. 16:31, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

REdden the earpink. 22:02, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that, darken the earpink and redden it as Mistystar said. =) 23:23, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Fixed most of the blurred tail lineart, and smudged the mud streaks into the fur a bit more. Okay, Wildheart says I should lighten the earpink, and Mistystar and Splashpelt say I should redden & darken the earpink. Which one?(Oh yeah, and I knew this one would be better. I used Mistyheart's Charart tutorial for shading and highlights. I bookmarked her tutorial, because it's so good! It really helped me. A good Charart maker learns from her fellow Wiki Users!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:16, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

They're correct. You need to make it more red, but you also need to lighten it. If you'd just lightened it, like I said, it would've been bubble-gum pink and silly XD   }   wild    heart   ~    00:29, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I reddened it, but I might need to darken it a bit more.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:39, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and add shading under the chin. And also, just re-upload over the old file and don't create a new one each time, and this should be called "Stormfur.ph.png" <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:47, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mud stripes, and it seems like you have some blurred lineart on the ear. and I would darken the earpink too. You also might want to go over the lineart that's grey like on the face, and the back of the hindlegs and bottem of the tail. I love charart now! At el  da  03:26, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink. It's too hot-pink right now. 22:21, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller, too. 21:46, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I think this one's worse. Darkened earpink and made it smaller. Darkened shading along back and a bit along the top line of the tail. Fixed some lightened/blurred lineart, darkened mudstreaks(and made them look awful).- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:15, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

They're not that bad, although they could use some bluring. Especially near the haunch. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 18:54, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred all mudstreaks, and also added a tad more shading under the chin and on the forehead. Btw I accidently blurred some of the front leg lineart when I was blurring the mudstreak on it. I fixed that lineart up again.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:45, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

The mud looks unnatural. The earpink needs to be larger and needs to be less pink/purple. There appears to be blurred lineart on the tail and foreleg. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  20:49, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Fixed blurred/lightened tail lineart. I could not see any more blurred lineart that needed fixing on the foreleg. Enlarged and reddened earpink. And how do u expect me to make the mudstreaks look more 'natural'?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:15, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink even bigger and fix the blurred lineart on the front leg and ear, as well as the tail. Should this be up right now, as somebody is tweaking the blank? }  wild    heart   ~     05:40, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Cloudy Sun (SC) - For Approval
Here she is. She was described as a sharpclaw when Jayfeather (or maybe Jaypaw idk) saw her in StarClan, so don't be all "she was only seen as an elder!" XD Comments? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 06:32, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Blur the shading, and darken the ear pink a tad bit. Where's your light source coming from? Koisplash 08:25, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, take the ear pink color from her elder image, or if you already have, darken the ear pink by burning it slightly. The tail shading and highlights could be defined a little as well. Nice job, I like this! 16:34, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Its great! define the earpink and blur the highlights. 22:01, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Was she even seen in StarClan? 22:09, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oops! Sorry, I didn't mean StarClan. I meant when Jayfeather comes back from the past, and he grabs the Stick and he sees the sharpclaws. It's in Long Shadows... Anyway, thank you for all the compliments. =D Comments? }  wild    heart   ~    00:18, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, okay, I'll check my copy. Maybe blur the stripes a little. 00:50, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

This is loverly XD Blur a little more on the back where it is shaded :3 00:55, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. It looks great. ^.^ 01:17, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Are thoose little suggigily lines supposed to be on only the haunch and legs and face? Sandstormrocks32 00:00, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, her elder image has them so she should have them on her sharpclaw image as well. 00:27, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed everything, but I'm still having issues with the changes showing (like everyone else) so be patient. @Sandstormrocks: it's called a tabby point. They're like Siamese cats, except with tabby stripes instead of dark colour =) @Splashpelt: LOVERLY, EH? 8D   }   wild    heart   ~    04:38, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look a little too bright, but did you do that since in her elder image, her stripes were faded? I think they should be a tad bit lighter. 20:35, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make the stripes a bit thicker. Darken the shading. 17:37, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlight on the face a tad. Looks beautiful! :) <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 19:00, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly a tad. Yus, this is loverly ;) 01:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks you guys. @Scarletwind: I actually don't have any highlights, so I just darkened the shading a bit. Comments? }  wild    heart   ~     04:56, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Barley (K) ~ For Approval


My other charart was technically approved, so I'm going to do this one. Comments? 22:14, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, got through the first day without comments...is that good or bad? XD 21:45, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't there a kit barley already up somewhere on this page? Sandstormrocks32 22:53, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

No, there was, but it was declined, and no one else has reserved it. 22:56, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, Mistystar. But, can you blur where the black meets the white a little more (mostly around the chest area)? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫

Re-Uploaded. 04:06, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, blur, lighten, and define the earpink, and define the markings. }  wild    heart   ~    02:21, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

There is a white pixel between the leg and tail. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 05:13, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Pebble (CG) - For Approval
Before you say anything, yes I know this is already on the reservation table, but I was looking through the archives and saw it was declined from lack of work (and it was the same user who has it reserved now), so I figured it'd probably be Ok to do it. Anyways, I'm excited, this is my first Cavegaurd! ^^ Comments? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:27, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and define the mudstreaks, erase the waste around the charart, and enlarge the earpink. I like it =D   }   wild    heart   ~    07:02, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - The waste around the charart was already erased almost immediately after I uploaded it, but it was taking a while to show up. I enlarged the earpink (though it's not showing YET), but how do I define the mud streaks? Make them not so blurred? Make the darker? I don't quite understand.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:25, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Not so blurred. More distinct. AUGH it's 3:30 here and I have school tomorrow....... }  wild    heart   ~    10:36, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink,. 20:23, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more and get rid of the smudges around her ears and jaw. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:45, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I tried my best to make the mud more distinct, but it didn't work too well without making it looks like spots or something. I darkened the shading and removed the mud from the face. you'll know the changes are showing when the mud on the face is gone. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:33, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

They still need more defineing. If you have them in a seperate layer, I'd just redo them. If not I guess I could help you make them sharper? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 05:17, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah they're on a seperate layer. I guess I'll redo them again. My sharpening tool doesn't work. XP I gtg right now, but I'll do this later today. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:10, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Foxleap (Alt. W) - For Approval
...I really hate this. Looks terrible >.< 04:07, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

No it doesn't! Darken the shading and earpink. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 04:14, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  04:25, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading even more. I like this :3   }   wild    heart   ~    05:50, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad, and enlarge and widen the shading a bit. Make his tail a tad bit lighter.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 06:57, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I say make the ear pink a tad bit smaller, it looks like it fills the whole ear, but maybe it could be because of the blurring. You could define it a little, just experiment and see if that would look better. Add some light parts to his tail towards the top. 20:38, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh. Think it looks a bit too pink. 04:08, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

The tail looks really gray at the end, is it blurred line art? If it is, get rid of it. If its not, make it more tawny. 19:22, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

And make the whole a tad bit lighter and redden the ear pink Sandstormrocks32 16:24, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the legs, it looks great ^.^ 02:16, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  05:46, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make sure this is saved as a png file. The fur look pale brown right now, make it a little more gingery. Darken and define the stripes a bit. Make the ear pink more reddish. Darken the tail stripes expecially. Thicken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:53, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink. }  wild    heart   ~     05:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Owl Feather (SC)~ For Approval
If Cloudy Sun gets one, so does Owl Feather. I'm not fond of the speckle style, but what do y'all think? 19:22, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great to me! Blur the shading and desturate the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  20:46, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the legs a bit more. This looks fantastic! :) <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:46, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Thanks. 00:25, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

GORGEOUS! The spot on his forhead looks funny though. Maybe make it look more like it's a couple of small spots rather than one big one? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:35, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Gawjus, dahling, gawjus. Perhaps make the earpink a tiny bit smaller. }  wild    heart   ~    00:43, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 01:03, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Love it! Blur the tailtip a little. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 05:20, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  12:57, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 18:25, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the speckles on her tail, darken the shading on the forearm that's closest. Night shine  22:38, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 00:46, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the underbelly, it looks beautiful :D 02:18, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Do more speckles that might help... Sandstormrocks32 15:22, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 19:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Shy Fawn (Q) - For Approval
Comments? -- Night  shine  01:28, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks a tad bit...green? Could you make the ear pink stand out a little bit? 01:38, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened ear pink. I took the colours right from her sharp claw image. Night shine  01:40, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh ok, now that I looked the shading colors are the same :) My bad! 01:43, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger. No offense to the artist who did her original image, but the colours are kind of terrible. They look very green. Could we change this in Tweak Week, and if so, why don't we just change the colour now? }  wild    heart   ~    04:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded changed colours around and made ear pink bigger. We'll just redo the Sharpclaw image during tweak week. Night shine  05:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

That's what I meant. Sorry for the miscommunication. Perhaps make the colour a bit richer, as it's still a bit green. }  wild    heart   ~     05:48, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Prey Hunter Blanks
With the recent book I just noticed something... the Prey Hunter blanks don't really fit in with the others... they seem more cartoony/stylized. I'm not calling them bad but the don't flow well with the other blanks. In all honesty, I think they need to be redone or edited. Considering the original artist is no longer a member, I'm leaning toward redone... I was wondering if anyone else felt this way? I only bring it up because there aren't many PHs anyways. I also feel the same about rogue blanks, which are hideous, but when brought up in the past I was told they should stay the same. I guess that makes sense seeing as there are quite a few rogues xD.-- Darkhallows... Enter the cave? 11:32, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think the prey hunters are okay...but I can see what you mean by "cartoony." I don't think they should be redone or edited, though; I've always been used to seeing them like that. Plus; it does sort of fit them. Koisplash 14:20, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The loner blanks look the same. . . but I don't think we should, can you imagine all the chararts that would nheed redoing. 70.64.149.241 00:54, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

We would have to redo eight... which isn't really a lot xD. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 08:14, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I've been thinking that for a while. Same with rogues, but like you said, it'd be too much trouble to redo all the rogues. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:28, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

THANK YOU DARKHALLOWS. I've been thinking the same thing for a long time, but I didn't want to offend the artist or have anybody get all angry with me XD I completely support this idea. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:41, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darkhallows. . . I pointed out that the loner blanks were done in the same style as the prey hunter blanks, if you didn't notice. So we would have to redo a LOT of chararts. 03:26, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think the loner blanks are perfectly fine. They don't look anything like the prey-hunter blanks. I still stand by this. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:11, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

I think the loner blank is fine... It's the head shape of the PH blank that bothers me. There is no stop... it's kind of... egg-y. The loner looks alright. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 02:04, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Their heads are too round and have no nose. They look flattened in. Also, the body shape is a bit wierd... I don't know exactly what it is, but it doesn't look right... wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:17, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Just going to challenge you. I agree, but wouldn't it be brought up when it was UP for approval? -- 19:11, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

It was quite awhile ago, standards were a little lower. I think it was mentioned... lemme look it up

. Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 23:52, April 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Mmkay, it was mentioned twice, once by me lol... but for some reason those comments were ignored? click Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 00:01, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with Darkhallows but they don't look cartoonie they just don't fit in with all the others. Wild  fire  03:44, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, the feet look a bit.... odd. I don't know what it is exactly, but they just don't look right. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:30, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, the feet look a bit.... odd. I don't know what it is exactly, but they just don't look right. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:30, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think they should change. I was thinking of this for a while, but I didn't want to say anything. They seem different then the others that we have. They also look smaller then the rest, and the eyes are just ugly. Sorry for being blunt, but this is how I see things. -- Cloud skye  17:14, April 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with you about the Prey-Hunter blanks as well, and nothing seems wrong with the rogue/loner blanks. They fit in more with the blanks if you ask me than the PH. I hated I missed it's approval, but really the whole blank seems....cartoonish. Not the pose, but how it was made rather. Mainly the head like stated before.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 00:53, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it should have been approved at all, not with sevral people asking to change the head. I'm really not sure why it was...? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 01:56, April 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, they may have gotten approved before a lot of people started saying anything about them. I honestly think they should be re-done. It's not like there's 30-40 chararts that would need to be re-done, either. Only a few. -- Cloud skye  19:08, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * There were people saying to change the head though. They were approved anyways. I posted a link to the archive a little further up. Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 23:07, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Is this a consensus...? It seems so thus far. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:56, April 30, 2011 (UTC) It seems like it. However, Frostheart hasn't been around lately, and I can't really decide anything xD. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 23:34, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

The loner blanks are ok, I think, but the more I work on Splash, PH, the more I'm seeing that the blank does not really fit in. I wouldn't mind them being redone at all. I think should. Leopard claw xx  WindClan forever! 07:24, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. They don't look as " profesional" as the others. 04:00, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that we should fix up the prey hunter blank but we don't need to make a complete new one. How's this? Night shine  04:25, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

I don't agree to this because then we would have to do ALL the characters that are prey-hunters over again. That would be a huge hassle and really frustrating...72.95.163.62 12:22, May 6, 2011 (UTC)(Honey)

Nightshine, it looks good aside from the fact the ears look a little pointy. I like it better though. 16:33, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

And the ears are bit big. But this is very good. If we just redid the head, we could just save it for tweak week, and paste the new heads on them rather than redo the whole image. It would be easy and less work. It could work. 22:16, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

It wouldn't really be all that much of a hassle, there's only a few prey hunters. It looks great Nightshine! I see nothing wrong with your version other than what's already been said, but is there any chance you can fix the back legs on it too? Not THAT important, but they look a bit unatural. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:38, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Nightshine, wanna make this a new section up ^above^? This seems like it should be up for approval haha   }   wild    heart   ~    00:46, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, these look WAY better! 00:58, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Since we're debating whether to change the blanks, should any Prey Hunters up for approval (not sure if there are any... XP) be put on hold? Since if the blank is changed, they'd have to be redone. It'd save a lot of work. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:20, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make the ears more rounded and smaller, the back foot wider and more visable and the one you can't see less visable, and a more defined muzzle.otherwise it's great. Wild fire  03:33, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I've reuploaded a new one. I'm not sure if I should make a new section though since I already have Lion's Roar up. And yes, I think the current prey hunters that are up for approval should be taken down. Night shine  22:36, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Those who are working on a Prey-Hunter would still have claim to them, right? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:11, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Of course. You'll have to keep it in the reservation table for the time though. Night shine  00:13, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Dovewing Eye Color
Shouldn't Dovewing's eye color be blue? I mean, wasn't it mentioned more as blue than golden? And plus, Dove's Wing's eyes are blue too, and she's Dovewing in a past life, and other than the eyes right now she has the almost exact same description as Dovewing. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:37, April 20, 2011(UTC)

Yes. but, she was said she had Pale golden eyes FIRST, so i'm going to say that she has golden eyes, either that, or she VERY werid colors for hazel eyes. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:49, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Huh, I did't know that. Oh well. Still though, I think she's been described with blue more than golden. (I may be wrong though) I always thought she had blue, so..... XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:23, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

This should be on her warrior image being approved, not on the discussion because it is about a charart in approval stage. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:33, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

No, cause it applies to ALL her images. Though the other ones wouldn't be changed till tweek week. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:20, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should go with blue, because even though her eyes were described as golden first, we go with what's current. We always have. And Paleclaw, the other ones wouldn't be changed during tweak week, if it's something as minor as eye colour we don't wait. 17:43, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I thought ALL images the needed to be changed were done on tweak week unless the person who originally did the image changed it? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:31, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nope. You can just change the eye-colour and reupload it, as long as all you change is the eye colour. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:46, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

So we are going with blue? 15:55, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Her eye colour was first mentioned as golden... we agreed on her talk that that was what it would stay on. Should we have a poll or something?

- ♫Millie♫ <font color="Green">Heavystep is invincible... 22:18, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I know it started out as golden, but I agree with Paleclaw. I think she was mentioned with blue eyes more than with golden. I know it said golden first, but I thought there was only blue, green, amber, and yellow eye colors. Feather stream     The Sign Of Spring...   09:11, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Golden really is just yellow eyes with a hint of amber. So, it is genetically possible. 21:44, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Since when have the Erins cared about anything being genetically possible? X)  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  00:10, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

IDK. I was just answering a question. :) Anyway, Blue or not? 02:38, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Scourge-Kittypet?
Shouldn't Scourge have a kittypet image since he was a kittypet in the rise of Scourge and Bluestar's prophecy. If so I'll do him. Wild fire  21:01, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

No, because he was just a kit then. 22:53, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, shouldn't he? Kittypets, no matter what age, have no rank and are always kittypets? Sunstripe 17:58, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I asked this same question awhile back and was told the same answer- "No because he was a kit then." But, maybe why he won't get the kittypet alt is because...he was only a kit and not much of a kittypet? O.e 21:02, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it never made much sense to me, either. Discussion? XD   }   wild    heart   ~    07:55, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be a discussion since he had a kittypet name he should have a kittypet carart Wild  fire  21:04, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, he did have a kittypet name- "Tiny". And he was seen with a collar and housefolk. 23:18, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

No he shouldn't because he already has a kit image with a collar, and that should coun as both his kit and kittypet image. The kittypet image is pretty much for a grown up cat, let's say, a little older than apprentice age? [Ivystripe not signed in] 209.34.114.210 14:15, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

But why does Firestar get one? since he was a little younger than an apprentice Wild  fire  23:45, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Firestar was pretty much the apprentice age at that time. Night shine  01:01, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

True, but technically Scourge was a kittypet even if it was just a little while. Cloudtail was a kittypet twice but only for a little while and he gets one. Wild fire  03:17, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

That is true, Cloudtail got one when he was a fairly young kit. 01:16, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Technically, he has a kittypet image. Scourge.kit.png 01:41, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Proposed New Ideas/Guidelines
Alright, I'm not sure if this goes on the forums or not (bad senior warrior, bad!), so I'm putting it here. Lots of new ideas and suggestions have come up recently, however, none of them have been implemented (yet). I figured we should compile them all in one place. And I've probably forgotten things. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 04:05, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alternates for major manga differences (i.e. Millie's cream-colored pelt)
 * Kit ranks (unable to post charart but can still comment on images)
 * Vacation List
 * Re-doing Prey Hunter blanks

Probably should go on the forums, but don't worry, nobody's going to tar and feather you for not doing so. Anyway, people don't look at the forums as much as they do the talk page. I agree with all of these suggestions. Should we vote...? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:59, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with all of these, too, and especially redoing the PH blanks. If we're voting, I vote yes. Leopard claw xx  WindClan forever! 07:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad this is finally going to vote, I was wondering when it would. I do wonder, though, for the kit ranks, would current apprentices be demoted to kit rank, or would only the ones that haven't done a picture yet? I also think the prey-hunter blanks are fine, I just think the muzzles look a little weird. 209.34.114.210 14:22, May 2, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe not signed in]

Actually, I'm not sure if this is a vote. Honestly, I'm a little confused on how this works. When Bramble was leader someone would suggest something, and if people supported it it would be implemented in a few days... but I don't really know anymore. (and yes, it is something I should know) Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 17:15, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno. It's been too long since Frostheart's been able to devote a large amount of time to the wiki (ie implementing new rules etc) and we really need a leader to be able to do that. I'm not challenging her leadership or anything, just saying maybe she could give us a little bit more of her free time? Haha Darkhallows you just came back from an absence. You're not expected to know everything that happened when you were gone XD   }   wild    heart   ~    22:35, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

These seem really good, and I agree with the "kit" rank. It would give us a chance to see who's going to stay in the project, and who's just joining for the sake of an edit or two. And can you really blame Frostheart for not being on a whole lot? I mean, we all have lives, and she's probably busy with school or something. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 22:45, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think a "kit" rank would make sense; it would keep track of those who haven't done a picture yet. I haven't; since I can't find any characters to make images for (and when there are, I don't have enough time); so I'd definitely be a kit. And the "vacation list" would do some good; too. But I'm not sure about the manga alternates and redoing the prey hunter blanks---the manga artists always mess up and don't pay much attention to the book descriptions; and the only thing about the prey hunter lineart that would need to be redone are the heads. Even then; it would be really hard to make the head more porportionate to the body on the blank. Koisplash 06:28, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

@Koisplash: (about the preyhunters blank) not if you had a good artist to do it! }  wild    heart   ~    07:08, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that alternate Chararts should be made for major manga differences(I made Russetfur's white alternate image and put it on here, like, ages ago, and it was declined). And I think that 'Kit' and 'Vacation' lists should be added. But, sometimes, if a PCA member suddenly disappeared, you couldn't know if they had just simply gone on vacation/holiday, and would end their inactivity ASAP, or if they had just decided they didn't like Project Character Art, and had just left, completely on their own accord, if they didn't post a message on here, PCA talkpage. And I think Prey-Hunter blanks are fine, mostly. I don't love them, and I do believe they stand out from the other ranked blanks, but I don't think ppl should bother to redo them. They're not that bad. I actually like them, a bit. They're sort of unique, how they're tipped downward.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 10:14, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I know I'm inactive now. I've been spending an insane amount of time on the Warrior Cats Roleplay Wiki, and none on here. I'd like that special section, so people know I haven't just given them up :)  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  12:53, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Since Frostheart is away, can Nigtshine put these into action? 02:23, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I would say that she could put the vacation list into action, if she wants, seeing as it's a pretty minor thing, but wait on the others. But idk. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:23, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yellowfang - Queen Image?
Hey, I was wondering why Yellowfang doesn't have a queen image. I mean, she was seen and mentioned as a queen in Secrets of the Clans, so doesn't it make sense for her to have one? 03:11, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. She DID give birth to kits at one point, right? -- 03:19, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

But the Clan never knew that she was pregnant so she shouldn't get a queen image. It's the same for Leafpool, the Clan didn't know she was pregnant. -- Night  shine  03:20, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Just wondering. Guess this can be archvied now. XD 03:22, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Yellowfang or Leafpool should have queen images, but I think Squirrelflight should, as she was listed as a queen in the allegiances of The Sight. XXXSpecklestreamXXX 12:18, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

But Squirrelflight never really had any kits. 22:15, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think either Leafpool or Squirrelflight should get a queen image. Saying both shouldn't just seems odd to me. One of them had to be a queen! The kits came from somewhere and someone took care of them, so one of them would have been considered a queen. I agree that they shouldn't both get one though. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:19, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Unspecified Tabby
I was just reading the forum, and it doesn't seem like we came to any decision. So what was decided? 02:36, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure, but I think it's being decided that unspecified tabbies won't get a charart. But I think we should leave the unspecified tabby chararts up. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 15:36, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I dont want to start another debate, so take the opinion to the forum :). But more people suported/voted that we have a basic colour for unspecified tabbies and that they get chararts. 18:49, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Join Request
May I join as an apprentice?SoccerUlix 04:16, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you right now. I suggest looking at the basic guidelines and some tutorials before reserving a charart. Thank you for your intrest in joining. 04:55, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

How do you join this thing? cuz i want to be better at chararts Sandstormrocks32 01:45, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Just ask to join. More experienced users will help you along the way if you have questions. 01:54, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sparrowkit(K)-For Approval


Comments?Squirrelclaw

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