Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. G B 57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. G B 57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. G B 57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. G B 57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've improved her. How is she? G B 57 21:56, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Great! I don't see anything wrong :D. You did a pretty nice job. Sparrowsong 18:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be less circular and the shading needs to be darkened. --Hallow's Eve 09 21:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Blackclaw. Also, maybe try blurring the stomach-patch just a tad more. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the patch, but the ear pink has already been made less circular. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I see wrong is that darker shading is needed. That's all. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry it's taking so long, guys, but I won't be able to get to this for another week. Believe me, I'll do this when I get the chance. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 03:23, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Needs it's shading thickened immensely and blended. Ear pink could be toned down, but it mostly needs blurred some. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better, but go back, it looks like you blurred the line art or added black marks.Minnowclaw 12:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be more... intense Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the lineart. But Sandy, i don't get what you mean by "intense" <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Sandy, but I think she meant that it needs to be darker. (Sandy corect me if I'm wrong.)Minnowclaw 14:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well yes, that is kind of what I mean. It needs to be not just darker but a little thicker and blur it really well so it actually looks like shadows on his pelt. Some good examples of how the shading needs to look are Shadepelt and Rushtail's image which is currently up for approval. (I can't think of any more off the top of my head, sorry) It's not exactly just darker; it needs to look like a part of the pelt. I really hope that made some sense. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Done. I tried to fix it... <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 13:30, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

There should be more shading on the legs, and you might want to add a tiny highlight to the top of the herbs. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:24, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Try blurring the shading, and also, finish coloring in the far ear. After that, and doing what the above comments say, I'd think you're good to go. =) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

This has been up for a week now. Morningleaf please work on this or it will be declinded and we can't have something that is sooooo good and close to being done go to waste.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:48, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! I have, like lots of other ppl, been buried alive in homework. I'll go work on it now. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? I added shading to the legs, fixed the ear, and blurred the shading more. Can someone please tell me how to do highlights? I don't know. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:11, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

You can add highlights with the doged tool.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:12, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I added the highlight. Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 00:05, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot; right now it's very bumpy and uneven. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:29, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:32, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I'm really sorry. I'll get to it this weekend. I've been sick. Sorry. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 00:56, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

kk, I blended the shading. Anything else? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 01:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

The shading's better now. :) Just make the ear pink more salmon-colored rather than light pink, and I'd be glad to approve this. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 01:22, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For approval


(M) - Not much to say about these. First blank I've made where you can see both sides of the face and such, and probably the last blank I'll do for a long time. Will make a colored version over the weekend. (Maybe.) Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute. But their bellies and legs look.. weird. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

A few things though...What i think could be improved  How I would do it..... Feel free to remove this or disregard it if i'm wrong, but its lineart looks a bit odd only in this area. Summary of it: The arm has odd, unnecicary lines, the showing hind leg goes a bit up, or thick, the stomach area is oddly shaped, and the eye is a bit odd... But its fabulous in the rest.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 00:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks a little disproportionate--AutumnSky 02:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made a example and changed up the lineart a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just to let everyone know, I'm still working on these. Please don't decline. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The arm showing looks either too thin or too long, and the showing hind looks to high or thick.<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 01:09, November 3, 2009 (UTC) I really wanna see these improved, so if you need help re-lining them, i made this. And a colored version of my cat, speedy.The colored version looks terrible because i didnt shade it. Dont criticize it...<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploded. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:44, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

This might sound weird... but the stomachs look like kangaroos in that they have a kind of pouch... I think it's the way the lineart seems to overlap. Also, there are a lot of little lines that are kind of unecessary and will make colouring difficult. Try and simplify them a little without losing too much important detail. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 23:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be easier to add ear pink if the line in the ear that is closest to us was taken out, but thats just my opinion. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Well, now I'm sick. Nothing like H1N1 or anything, but my sinuses are all congested. D: Anyways, Snady could you be more specic on the lines that can be taken out and how they look like kangaroos? As for Spottedwing, I was wondering about that. While it makes blurring difficult, the leader blanks have the same kind of lines and they help define where to place the ear pink... what do you guys think? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:48, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you, Moss. Since the leader blanks are like that as well...I personally like the ears as they are, it helps define them better, as you said. Also, I hope you feel better soon! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:51, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Jus forget my comment; they don't look like it anymore. I think my computer was being funny about showing image updates but it seems to be fixed now. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:24, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I think Icethroat is right: keep the lines as it defines the ear shape more. There are some smaller lines such as on the chest that make the image hard to colour though as they get blurred when blurring shading. They also look very... rough so maybe you could try and simplify some of the busier areas of the blanks somewhat - they don't have to be complicated to look good (look at the warrior blanks) and the object is to make them easy to colour. Also, the paw that is lifted, the elbow looks floppy like it has no bone in it. The pose is great though =) These are the best kittypet blanks I think I've seen Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:32, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Fixed fur and got rid of the gray lines on the edges. As for the elbows, I'm not sure how to fix them; any ideas? Just make them pointer? Also, I'm afraid to mess with the fur due to the fact that it took me forever to get it right. Plus, the fur's like my loner blanks, so I'm trying to keep to that style. Anyways, what can I fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Moss, I'm not sure if I can call you tonight, so I'll comment here. On the long-haired's tails, the fur is pointing the wrong direction. It should be falling, but not pointed backwards. Definetely getting better, though. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:09, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reedwhisker (W) for approval
Not much to say. comments? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:39, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

You may want to blur the shading alot, and lighten the black just barely.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 13:28, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, blend the shading, and also, his eyes are green. Not blue. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 13:45, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make the shading blured and bigger.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:55, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading and ear pink, but the reason why I didn't change the eye color is because his discribtion said blue and I don't remember reading that he had green. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:17, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is fine now, but you need to make the shading thicker.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:47, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Done. What else? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 21:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Nothing that I can see, good job Spottedwing.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:02, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few, if slightly picky things. Firstly, the shading could be thickened a little more as it's hugging the lineart very closely at present and could look more like shadows if it was slightly thicker. Secondly, there doesn't need to be shading on the top of the muzzle. The ear pink is also quite large and needs to be smaller for a black cat. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Darn, I can never see something like that :(-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Seriously Minnow, don't worry. I've lost track of the number of times i've put out the 24 hours and about 8 people have then flooded the image with improvements ^_^ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:03, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy, that helpped a lot. <(^-^)> HUGS!-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 22:33, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink still needs to be fixed, as Sandy said above. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:40, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the ear pink. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 17:08, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

It's not that much fixed.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 17:58, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ok hows this? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:45, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The color is better, you just need to blur it. (wow I'm typing this really fast and making a lot a of mistakes.)!!!!!!!!:) :) :) :)-- *Minn owc law*  15:38, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blured the ear pink.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 18:06, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's much better now. I think it's ready.-- *Minn owc law*  18:51, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval in 24 hours? (Yay I said it!)-- *Minn owc law*  20:05, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the paws is very messy, and part of it is only lapping at the lineart. On the hind leg that we can see, the shading would be better if it was on the bottom of the entire leg. Also, the shading on the top of the head between the muzzle and ear could be thickened some, and, personal opinion, it would look better if there was some shading on the back of the tail (use the burn tool once or twice on our right half of the tail vertically, blur, and it should be fine). Other than that, this looks very good. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. <font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Just one more thing. On the right hind leg, there's an area that is a lighter gray than the rest of the body. Fix that, and I'd be glad to approve this. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 14:54, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Where exactly? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:23, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:51, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Kit-Mother Blanks ~ For Approval


How do you like my suckish artwork? xD Gawd, I need a tablet... The example is better than the blanks: <BR> Comment/Suggestios? (Suggestions OTHER than leaving the drawing to experts? xD)-- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh..my..staclan..THIS IS SO CUTE! I love the way she's staring at you like "I'm not fat!" The only thing I could say is that the head looks, a bit small-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I'll make the head a little bit bigger. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:26, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Heads are bigger by a tad. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

it look a bit odd..what is she doing? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if Apprentices are allowed to critique, and I love the blanks, but there are a few spots that look a bit... out of place. XD The paw near the Kit-Mother's head looks a bit flat, and the tails could be a smidge wider, but that's all I see. (: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 21:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Everyone's aloud to critique. That's part of the learning experience, being able to say what's wrong with a picture. :) Mumble: I agree with Shigura, the paw looks flat, and the tail could be a small bit wider. And also, the tail on the shorthair could maybe brought to the left a little bit, so the bottom of the lineart on the tail is at the same curve as the bottom lineart of the tail on the longhair, giving a curve that makes it more natural. Otherwise, great job, Mumble! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but the muzzle is a little thick, that shouldn't be too hard, methinks. You put queen blanks up a while ago, right? You've really improved ^^.-- Darkhallows 07:34, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The neck looks fat.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darkhollows: Yes, I did. :) I think I tryed a freindly blanks war with melon! xD Thank you! ^-^<BR> Bramble: She's laying down while looking at you. :P Yeah, not very well-thought-out position...<BR> Everyone who offered suggestions: I'll do that. How would I make the paw look less flat? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the paw more curved, like she's trying to swat the air? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 18:14, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - The tip of the short haired looks pointy. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 11:42, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do all of those ASAP, but I'm unable to get on very often since school is eating up my free time. Please do not delete these. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:44, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - XP I meant their tails looked pointy. I guess I forgot to type tails! Oops. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 12:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

lol. I've REUPLOADED the originals, and also have modified and saved two without paws so we can see which is better. I'll do the rouder tails with the next editing section, as well as making a new colored in example. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 00:35, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I like the one without the paw better but, maybe you could change the position of the head a little.-- Ashstar My Clan 03:10, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I like the one without the paw, but maybe make the neck a little thicker, especialy on the long haired one--Nightfall101 04:27, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I personally like the one with the paw, because the one without the paw looks kind of weird, like the cat's paw was cut off or something. But that's just my opinion. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:57, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

kk. I sorta do too. Any other comments before I edit again? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 16:16, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - First, the forelegs are pointing different directions; fix that. Also, maybe you could make the long-haired's leg look furrier? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:12, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Screech of Angry Owl (To-Be) - For Approval
...*fidgets* Sorry, Bracken! here is the brother of Pebble. how is he? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:09, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but this is very dark and I can't see much, can you lighten it up a bit?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * 3 s;okay...like Minnow said, he IS a bit too dark so, I suggest you probably start out as a dark gray'ish coulour, then add shading 'till it looks black :3--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 21:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't he supposed to be black? But I'll lighten it anyway. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 23:34, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Yes he is black, but if it's too dark, we can't see and he might as well be purple.-- *Minn owc law*  02:34, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better, or should I lighten it more? I also blurred some of the shading and thinned it cause I thought it was too thick. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 17:33, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's still too thick on the back and belly.-- *Minn owc law*  22:08, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded Better? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

The black is so dark that I can't see the lineart. Try running him over once or twice with the dodge tool to lighten the color. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 14:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I already did that before, but I'll do it again. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 02:34, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded I lightened the color, but I don't know if it's still hard to see the lineart. On my com it looks fine. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:59, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I can sort of see the lineart, but I really like the way your eye looks. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:14, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q)- For Approval
--My first charart. I did the best I could. Comments =) <font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

She is completely white. Don't worry, when I started making charart, I would be that with white cats too. You need to make it a light gray, because if it's totally white, then shading won't work. Do you know how to shade? Because if not I could teach you.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

There's a few blurry sections of Lineart, and the shading should probably be thickened a bit. I can't see anything. XD (But that might be just me) The ear pink should be blurred out, and in a triangle shape. But don't worry, it's pretty good for your first charart! :) Just a suggestion; If you already know this, i'm very, very sorry. But you should go to http://pixlr.com/editor and use that. Using that program you can use the blur tool to blur shading and ear pink (Be careful not to go over lineart, and if you do, just open up paint and go over the black lines with the pencil tool) and you can use the 'Burn' tool to darken parts, etc. Once again, I'm very sorry if you already knew about pixlr. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 15:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura covered it all.-- *Minn owc law*  15:17, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

On the one cheek and behind the ear, it is lighter than the other spots. --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 15:29, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

For shading, use the burn tool. (if you already know this, ignore me), and run it over the back, hind leg, and other places that have shading. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:25, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

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Okay, the lines that were blurred are a bit too thick now. And there still isn't any shading. XD (I checked. XP) There should be a few white pixels in the eye, (Look at Ferncloud's eye to see how it should look) And the ear pink should still be more triangular and blurred along the outside. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shistar Mai Talk Page! =) 17:22, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

There are only still some white parts near her face and her ear.-- *Minn owc law*  23:13, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

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(S) - Maybe it's me, but the eye looks turquoise. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

hmm... my main problem is that you've now made her so far off-white that she looks pale grey... =/ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:40, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading darker also, and blur the ear pink slightly as it looks like it is now painted on. (ps. please sign with ~ so we can see the timestamp, thanks) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, pretty much what Sandy said. Also, to make her less pale gray, use the dodge tool at about size 70, and the brush that gets lighter out. (Please disregard if you knew this.)-- Mossy SC  22:33, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

re uploaded. I lightened her and darkened the shading. also changed eye color. finally i Blurred the ear pink. please approve this! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

I don't know, she still looks pale gray to me--Nightfall101 23:40, November 10, 2009 (UTC) I dont see anywhere she is pale grey. Except for the shading.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

(S) - I can tell you changed the eye, but maybe make it a darker green, like on her warrior image. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:18, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

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Applefur - For Approval
Yay! Applekit comes back! But we still never know what happened to Marshkit. =( Anyway, here she is. I felt kind of bad cluttering up the page, but since Adderfang's in the "24-Hour-Stage", I thought you guys would be able to forgive me. =) Comments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:03, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is good! I know that it's about the same color as her kit version, but make the ear pink brighter, but not too bright.-- *Minn owc law*  21:23, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Oh, and the reason her color is a little bit different from her kit version, is because she gets a new description in The Fourth Apprentice. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:38, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

That's dum. I mean the new description not you. Make the ear pink have more color as now it looks pale.-- *Minn owc law*  22:04, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Honeyfur, but we're not making any TFA characters until the actual book comes out. You can put this up once TFA comes out, but for now this will have to be temporarily declined. -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:44, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is to Minnowclaw: I am slightly ashamed to say that I let the fact that Applefur had a false description slide. I just thought it was the most likely, and thinking that we'd never see her again thought it didn't matter. Truth is, I've never seen anywhere that Applekit was a dark ginger she-cat. -- Bramble -san  00:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

What do we do now? I'm I in trouble?-- *Minn owc law*  00:11, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

You're not in trouble Minnow - it's my fault. I relied on the wiki page for her description. I have a plan though: 1. I'll redo her kit version so in co-insides with the accurate description. 2. I think the image is going to have to go to waste as I can't think of any other dark ginger kits... unless I can have the image back and try and do something with it? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Also, temporarily declined until TFA release (I'm glad I saw this because it's reminded me not to post Beetlewhisker yet!) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is taking up space. Back up for critquing. However, when it is approved and archived, we just don't put the image on the page until TFA comes out. Compromise... gotta love it. :) -- Bramble -san  22:48, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, Bramble! Yup, gotta love it. ^.^ For the image, the ear pink looks a bit odd being circular, and it's also gone outside of the ear. Try getting it back inside the ear, and more triangular-ish. Also, darken the shading on the chest and on top of the head some. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:52, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:41, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Much better, but now can you darken the flecks? I can barely see the mottled-ness. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Rippleclaw - For Approval
My first warrior and first tabby. I know it needs work so comments are welcome.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:22, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! This is awesome! :) Just blur the tabby markings a bit and he'll be good to go. Nice job :). -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:46, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes don't look very tabby. Try making some of them Y shaped and more wavy so they don't look like lines. Also, blur all of the shading more.-- *Minn owc law*  00:12, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I did not have to make y ones and this is good. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:54, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

You need to add some markings on the chest and some other places that don't have any. Also, I'd try and vary the markings a little (not necessarily y shapes but maybe some differences in length without it being in a pattern of all long down the side and all short in the middle) and lessen the number of stripes on the tail as it looks a bit crowded. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Okay I'll do that. Besides the chest which places don't have stripes? I put them just about everywhere else. -- Ashstar My Clan 20:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Brambleclaw14: Yes I no that they are don't need to be y's, but as Sandy said it's good to change them up a bit as they look like there in a pattern.-- *Minn owc law*  23:04, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay I fixed the stripes and blurred them. I also blurred the shading more. Is this better? -- Ashstar My Clan 21:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and the shading.-- *Minn owc law*  14:30, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better?-- Ashstar My Clan 22:18, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Comments?-- Ashstar My Clan 16:02, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I can't really see the shading, can you make it darker and also blur it in more. I still have a slight misgiving about the stripes as well... they don't really look natural. Try looking at either Bramble's work (Swallowtail and Webfoot are good examples) or Dawn's style (Rowanclaw and Tigerstar) and attempt to emulate either style. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:37, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I refuse to let this cat beat me. Comments?-- Ashstar My Clan 19:13, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Tbe stripes look much better, but now they need blurred. Just once or twice running the blur tool over them should be good. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:40, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded The stripes were blurred but, I blurred them some more. Better? (still working on the siggy)-- Ashshadow My Clan 20:40, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(Nice sig colors, but for the Ashshadow part, you should makethe background black or a darker color.) -- Mossy SC  22:34, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the neck needs blurred some more. The tabby stripes look much better. Also, you could add some shading on the top of the head, between the ears and the muzzle. If the shading's already there on the head, then it needs darkened. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:44, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried. the shading on the head was really hard to blur. Should I lighten it some to make it less standoutish? -- Ashshadow My Clan 22:19, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the head looks fine, but the shading on the neck still needs blurred some more. Use the dodge tool once or twice over it at 50% and then blur, and I think it should be good. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:22, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded The neck shading is blurred as much as possible without hurting the stripes. Also I lightened it. Better? -- Ashshadow My Clan 21:01, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - This might be this computer, but the face stripes look like war paint. Could you change it? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:20, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think this is much better but its the best I can do.-- Ashshadow 20:47, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I love your tabby stripes. Blur them just a tad. mabie just one round of the blur tool if you're using pixlr. careful not to blur it too much. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:13, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Spottedwing =). As for the stripes they start to look gray when blurred more than this. Should I blur them more anyway?-- Ashshadow My Clan 21:34, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Well silver tabbies have distinct black tabby stripes and if they start to look gray it'll ook more like the base color. I vote keep it that way.-- Mossy SC  21:36, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Petalnose (For Approval)


Hey there everybody! Long time no see. Does anyone here even remember me? I see there are a lot of new people here. I feel so old! Anyways, here's the first charart I've done in who knows how long. I hope my skills haven't abandoned me. So go ahead... How bad IS it? I think the shading needs blended a little more, but I won't do anything until someone tells me to. :) <span style="font-family:Twilight; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 19:58, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

the ear should be pink. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 20:05, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is actually really good! The shading looks fine to me. Great job! :) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 20:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Thin the neck shading. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 21:40, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Hi Goldencloud! *Nuzzles* Long time no see! This is amazing. The shading's so smooth... *drool* All I see is the the neck shading upward and thin the belly shading. Love the way you did the ear pink, by the way. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:01, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Goldie! :D I thought we'd lost you. Very glad you came back. Your artist skills are still as great as ever, I see. Real quick question, unrelated to the brilliant image: I have you down as a mentor (a lot happened while you were gone; see Forum:PCA Mentors/Apprentices Prgm). Are you going to be able to do that? I don't want to overwhelm you if you're just coming back. -- Bramble -san  22:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

<(0o0)> WOW! I have a petalnose, but this is SOO good!-- *Minn owc law*  00:32, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Brambleclaw14 The ear is pink, but I'll saturate it a bit more. Hawktalon Thank you! :D Rainwhisker I think I get what you mean, but if I fix the wrong area let me know. Mosswhisker&Stealthfire Mosswhisker!!! *tackles* Thanks! I shall fix that. Bramble :D I have returned! You didn't think you could get rid of me that easily did you? ;) I haven't done one of these in so long, I'm surprised it actually turned out. Sandy said she was just going to keep me on the list but not assign me any apprentices until I decide I'm ready. You'll have to talk to her about that. *shrugs* Minnowclaw Wow, thank you! I doubt that though, I'd still like to see yours. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 01:37, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

ok it looks brown to me but that me. :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:17, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

You can have an apprentice if you'd like Goldencloud =) You told me you wanted to get some charart done and get back into it first... Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:38, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Mothwing-For Approval
Here is Mothwing. Comments? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 19:07, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

This looks great, Hiddensun! All I can see at the moment is that there's a couple of black pixels that need to be added to the eye. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:28, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I looked at the eye and there is no pixel missing. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:46, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I think it's just the bright yellow pixel I saw and thought it was a white pixel. I'm so sorry. Otherwise for the image, I can barely see the ear pink, it needs thickened and brightened. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:56, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploade  ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 01:45, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Wow. Nice tabby markings! Just darken the shading and she'll be good to go. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:57, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

This looks like a golden brown cat. Try making it more of a golden one like your first image. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 22:58, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

well it says that she has dark markings. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:11, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-darken shading ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 21:16, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but tabbies generally have an M-shaped marking on their head. If you look at pictures of real tabbies, you'll see what I mean. Sparrowsong 22:02, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-added the "M" on her forehead. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 00:43, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading darker still as It's still not really visible. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:15, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Her tabby markings look very brown... I always thought of them as just a darker golden. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:54, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-i make her tabby marks lightther. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 00:49, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Thanks! That does look better. And, on the tail, why does it get lighter towards the edge? Is it a highlight? I can't see a cat having light on opposite sides of their tail. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:24, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-well i did it lighther because it was part of tehe shading, but now i reuploaded ti darker.is ti better? ★ Hi dd en sun '<font color="#008080">Talk 19:58, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Soft Paw Blanks- For Approval
, I don't really like them xD.-- Darkhallows 03:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * literally dies of awsomeness* WOW!-- Shad owed  heart  11:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, these look great! Only one thing - the front paws look a bit... round. I know that they're supposed to be tucked in, but could you make a line inside the curve, just so that you can see where the paw is? (Sorry if that didn't make any sense - I can't explain it any better.) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Love the pose! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks you guys. || Is the paw/leg any better?-- Darkhallows 19:06, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

These are really good. The only thing is they each need their own file like the other blanks. -- Ashstar My Clan 21:03, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

The paws still look odd and they look very skinny, try making them fatter.-- *Minn owc law*  01:17, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I don't think they're that skinny. I mean, they're not kittypets! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:26, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Ivytail (RC) - for approval
CHOCOLATE BROWN KITTY! Sorry about that... well, my third tabby elder in a row. Sandy, can I have that list you have becuase I just going by elders?-- *Minn owc law*  02:05, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ugg, I didn't like the ear pink.-- *Minn owc law*  02:09, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

This looks really good =) I'm going to try and put my list somewhere as soon as it's finished. It should be a few days (in theory).  Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 07:03, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, go to my user page for a link to my list. 'Twas much quicker than I thought to complete. (I neglect my homework...) The image: Add a highlight to the top edge of the tail and strengthen the ones on the face and chest so they're the same as the one on the flank. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:52, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't been on much. I'm sick (>;-;<) <- (yay odd emoticon!) anyway, here he is.-- *Minn owc law*  23:49, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Hope you feel better soon, Minnow. On the image; looks awesome, just blur the ear pink. -- Bramble -san  17:24, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

O.O Get well soon Minnow!-- Mossy SC  23:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Her haunch seems very round, I think it's because of the highlight being where it is. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:28, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Uggg! I'm better now, but I'm so busy, (goes and hits mission out reach president with the money with earned, science teacher with a microscope, upper school chorus teacher with the piano and math teacher with a dog, (I took that from bramble!) ) Stealthfire, well, a cats haunch in round, so....-- *Minn owc law*  23:18, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, Minnow! I think the haunch looks fine, but the ear pink looks a bit too...circular. Try adding just a little bit to the top, to finish it off in more a triangular shape with the ear. Not much, but just a little. Great job! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:26, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Mist Where Sunlight Shimmers - Withdrawing
I'm not proud of this image. At all. I couldn't get the mud streaks to work. Suggestions? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:45, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Well she's good but isn't she only a light grayshe-cat without the mud streaks? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:16, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I thought all Tribe cats had mud streaks, do they not? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:02, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

well i don't know if they're suppose to have them on teh chararts.I'm not sure. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 01:08, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

On the others they have them. (ex. Wing Shadow over Water and Storm Clouds at Dusk.) -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:48, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

ok then sorry-nevermind. She's great!! ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 01:54, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

maybe make the mud streaks thicker--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 05:29, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I thickened the mud streaks on the highlights, I figured that they had shrunk in size because of the highlights. Better? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 15:35, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

maybe make them even thicker(try size 5 or 9).....or just make them ...longer, it makes it seem less like stripes, and maybe make them even more ...messy--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 16:08, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any Better? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:42, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

To me, the mud streaks look like they're part of the cat's fur.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:53, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

How would I fix that? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:26, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

...try smudging it so it doesn't look like they're stripes. That's all the advice I can give you. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 02:41, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. When I tried smudging it, there was hardly any gray left in the pelt. So I tried blurring it a lot more, but now it's blurred to the ultimate max, and still doesn't look any better... -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:22, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I think the problem might be that the streaks are too regular. Try making them more of a random pattern (eg. different lengths and maybe one slightly thicker, make them start and end in different places...) maybe. I'll try and do an example on a clean blank to illustrate my point as I don't think I've said it very well. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:21, November 8, 2009 (UTC) Okay, so my image is just a little rubbish but you get the idea. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:28, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm not sure if this looks any better or not... -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:48, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good, but I think it would help if the paws weren't solid brown. It makes them look like their fur color is that way, not muddy. Put a little streak on them, but not the full paw. -- Bramble -san  17:23, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Not sure if this looks any better or not... -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:22, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm withdrawing this. If anyone wants to use this, they can. Tribe cats aren't for me, I'll stick to cats with just two colors, one color, or tabbies for now. Tribe cats aren't where my abilites lay at the moment, I'll try another one some time once I get better and more comfortable with tabbies. Sorry, -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:59, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Fawnstep-For Approval
Fawnstep is one of my favourite characters from Skyclan, so i deicided to re-do her, since my other charart of her didn't get aproved. So comments? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 03:16, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

looks pretty good to me...maybe add one more layer of shading..--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 16:06, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

my fav cat is her too and that is the best one of i ve seen!

Reuloaded-darken shading. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 17:45, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Add a "M" on the top of her head, like you did on Mothwing's image, and she'll be ready :) . Nice job! -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 01:52, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Yeah, she's really pretty! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:57, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

thanks!anymore comments? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 22:52, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Yes! 24 hours before approval ^_^ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 08:54, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Can you just add that "M" on top of her head? It would make the markings look a lot more natural. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:07, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oh woopsie-daisy. I assumed it had been added and it was just my computer messing me around again. Sorry Echo, it seems I jmped the gun. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:05, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-sorry echo, i thought i had already added the "M". on her forehead. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 20:01, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hailstar - For Approval
I really have to lay off gray cats... But, anyway, I tried out a new shading style. But I don't really like it. Nonetheless, constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 18:11, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

He's really good!! Jut one thing, could you make the nose a little more pink? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 19:36, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear pink a little smaller.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:51, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the nose and ear pink. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 01:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights a lot. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 14:59, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I tried D: Pixlr makes meh angreh. Is it better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:30, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Maybe you could make the nose a bit darker, but otherwise it looks really cool! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:59, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Changed the nose pink. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 22:59, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Wrong word. xp Duller, not darker. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:29, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Lol, it's alright;). Changed the nose pink. Better? -- <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 21:42, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong now. I love the green you chose for the eyes. Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:31, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Violet - For Approval
Wow...I haven't done a real charart in like, forever and a day. I do apologize for my inactivity - with WCWiki, my stories, charart requests, and school for me to worry about, I haven't had much time for the PCA. Anyway, here's Violet as a BloodClan cat. Sparrowsong 21:47, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading some. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:24, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

This is great! Just a couple of things: --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 02:39, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * The ear pink should be more pink instead of the purpley (is that a word?) color you have.
 * Blur the stripes more.
 * Color the nose a pinkish color.

Sagewhisker (MC) for approval
I visit this wiki frequently and I thought I'd do some of the char art in my spare time. What do you think of this one? --Yukitora 05:56, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I love how you did the whiskers! Just darken the shading, add a highlight to the top of the herbs, and make the ear pink a bit less of a bright pink color, and she'll be ready. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 14:56, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Did as you asked! I hope I didn't totally kill the shading by darkening, one of my issues is that I tend to do that ^^'--Yukitora 21:06, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Urgh, sorry, when I said "less of a bright pink color" I meant darker salmon-pinkish, rather than lighter pink. But the shading's much better now :) . -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 01:51, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Very good! Just blur the highlights and do what Echo said. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 02:41, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I think I might have just murdered it with shading. I hate when layers and the blur tool are out to get me! I'm not sure if the ear color is okay now, This is what I would think is a dark salmon-pinkish color, but it could be a little bright.--Yukitora 03:25, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink so the end isn't touching the head. And try blurring it again. If it's blurred to the max, just say so. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 13:46, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Her ear pink looks dark. Could you make it lighter? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:01, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Take that, Photoshop Elements 6 scum! You and your ability to ruin a manual blur is no match for the smart blur! I hope I got the ear color right this time, I'm satisfied that it isn't boring into the head now :P This is personally my favorite version.--Yukitora 01:16, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

The lineart is blurred in lots of places. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Can that be fixed? --Yukitora 01:42, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to fix it, but I think that you can get the lineart and put it over the image already, while making the inside transparent or something like that. I don't know how to do that, though, but I think Bramble does. You'll have to ask her. Sorry, -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:13, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Fixed the blurry parts of the lineart. I also thought that the shading was a bit light so I darkened them a little bit.

This looks good to me; I can't see anything wrong; comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:37, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Lightningpelt- For approval
A minor character. Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 00:59, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

The white streak on her back would probably be on the lineart, rather than on the side of the pelt like it is now. Otherwise, great job, Hawkfire! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:26, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I echo Icethroat, and also make the ear pink more of a fine triangular shape, and less of a bright pink color. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦ <font color="Purple">Contribs 01:49, November 9, 2009 (UTC) Awesome! Um I don't really see anything *goes closer* Nope &#91;&#91;User:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;background:silver; color:goldenrod;&quot;&gt;&#39;&#39;&#39;Icestorm&#39;&#39;&#39;&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;sup&gt;&#91;&#91;User Talk:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;How&#39;s the prey running?&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;/sup&gt; 02:02, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Make sure you make it slightly smaller, as we probably wouldn't be able to see it all. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:04, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Leopardfoot (Q) for approval
Wanted to do another queen. Comments?--<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! Just thicken the shading and she'll be ready. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:17, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Also, blur the shading more.-- *Minn owc law*  00:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:20, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:32, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hollyflower (W)- For Approval
-- Darkhallows 07:24, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Shady... I'll never learn how to do that furry effect like you do... *drowns in awesomeness* The only thing is that the shading should be darkened a bit. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:15, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I can't see the shading on the white parts and on the tip of her tail and rear legs look black. Lighten them up to look like a dark gray like the others.-- *Minn owc law*  23:59, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Brook- For Approval
I love Brook; thank goodness Stormfur didn't fall for Squirrelflight (Ew)! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 15:33, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, she's beautiful! I see nothing wrong. -- Mossy SC  21:19, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I fixed some stuff on this cat using the line art that you made. Sorry, I'm using Paint, so I don't know how to blur the colors.I hope you like It. Any more comments?

Nightwhisker98 Nightwhisker98 21:14, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Nightwhisker, instead of putting every reply on the bottom of the page, please put it in the discussion you are replying to. (Does that make sense?) Also, don't use Paint for Chararts. Use pixlr instead. Here: http://www.pixlr.com/editor/ -- Mossy SC  21:20, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Honeyfur, add a little bit more shading to the back, belly, and legs, and she should be ready. Very nice job, she looks beautiful. -- Bramble -san  17:13, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Moss and Bramble! How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:10, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Graywing-For Approval
All right, since my Shadowstar is taking FOREVER to get comments on it...here's my Quailfeather!-- Mossy SC  22:27, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Great, Mosspath! Thicken the shading and make the highlights brighter, and this should be good. Also, add a highlight on the head, and since this is a longhair, maybe add a highlight on the top of the tail. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:46, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Grr Icethroat. I was just about to say the same thing, but you said it first. <(-_-*)> mad. Just kidding! <(^_^)>. Do as Icey says Mossypath and this should be good. OMG! I just thought of a nick name for you Mosspath! What do you think of (I know it's odd) Mossy P. LOL. <(&_&)>-- *Minn owc law*  23:53, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job Moss!!!do what ice said and add shading to the herbs. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:55, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

I was going to say the same thing as Ice too, minnow. lol ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:56, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

This is one reason why I LOVE the Charart Project. Everyone is so funny! ^.^ KK, I'll get this done soon, I just felt like typing now! -- Mossy SC  21:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded did as everyone said!-- Mossy SC  21:41, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

This is really good, but, I don't think Quailfeather's description was ever mentioned in Code of the Clans. Ignore me if I'm wrong. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 00:24, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Hawktalon. :) I despise false description adders.... Moss, the image won't go to waste; you can use this as Graywing, another gray she-cat who is also a medicine cat. Just darken the color a little bit.(and change the file name) -- Bramble -san  03:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Phew! Thanks Bramble and Hawktalon! I wouldn't want that to go to waste! O.O kk, I will do so.-- Mossy SC  23:38, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Well, I made Graywing from Quailfeather. (It had no eye color on the description so I just kept blue.) -- Mossy SC  23:57, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thistlepaw (WC) - For Approval
Well, not much to say about this one...I know that Thistlepaw already has an image, but it's not the current description, since his gender and color was changed. Should I take this down, since Thistlepaw already has an image? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:10, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure about whether you should take Thistlepaw down or not. But if he/she is kept up, I think you should thicken the neck shading. It looks great, otherwise! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 21:51, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened the neck shading. Look better? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:05, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I just realized what I said. I meant to say thickened the neck shading, not darkened the neck shading. Silly me, I must have been half asleep. Both my parents have the flu, and here I am in my room making sure I stay away from the sickness while I stay here in my room, which is actually fine by me, leaving me to peace with my laptop. :) So anyways, I thickened the neck shading. Does it look any better? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:20, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Well, this looks good to me. As for whether you should take it down or not... I'm not entirely sure because we've had images redone due to changing descriptions and so he does need an image that matches his description. I actually think this is ready anyway as there isn't much more you can do with a white cat, and the shading looks good on my cp at any rate. Bramble? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:30, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hey Guys
I'm afraid Birdy will be my last pic. After her, I'm quitting PCA. A lot of things in my life are changing, and this is gonna have to be one of those things. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:58, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Aw. Goodbye, GB.-- Darkhallows 09:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry to see you go, GB. Will you be remaining a member on the Wiki, just not PCA? Or are you leaving permanently? I hope not; you were one of the first friends I had here. -- Bramble -san  17:21, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I haven't really gotten to know GB. (And I really wish I have.) But, GB, you have made an everlasting impression on PCA and on Warriors Wiki. (Why does it sound like a funeral?) Good luck with those changing things! -- Mossy SC  21:04, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I Echo mossy. you are a very awesome artist. (nuzzles good bye and pads away) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Bye GB. We will always remember you here at PCA.)':. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 23:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, GB. Hope life resolves itself for you soon. We'll all miss you :(. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 01:20, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

C'ya*whimper*..now we'll have an empty bag shape out of this forum...*cry*-- Shad owed  heart  11:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

(dips head). GB, you were on when I first started and I am here to beg you to come back when you have the time. Maybe on a break or in the summer? If you can't, I understand. We all have times like that. Your a good friend and a very deserving artist, if you ever come back, i'll be glad to have you back. Good bye. (nuzzles GB then leaves to grieve for her lost project mate.)-- *Minn owc law*  23:54, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

=( I'm really sorry to see this message. We had our ups and downs in the past but you've been a great friend. Thank you for everything and I hope to speak to you again some time soon. May StarClan light your path xx Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:06, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

T.T I'm really sorry to hear this, Grocery. Are you leaving the whole Warriors Wikia, or just PCA? I hope you can come back someday. You were a major part of the Wiki and we'll never forget you. May StarClan light your path, my friend. Sparrowsong 22:11, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Raindrop - For Approval
This is Raindrop from Warriors Refuge and I used her book pic as a ref. I also gave her Moss's eye color because it doesn't specify.-- Shad owed  heart  23:07, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Darken shading. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 01:29, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Hawkey; darken the shading just a bit. Also, make the nose pink, and make the ear pink smaller so that it fits inside the ear. Nice job! :) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 01:40, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded darkened shading. Man, I'm proud of it now.-- Shad owed  heart  11:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink still needs to be smaller and there seems to be some gray areas outside of the lineart. It looks great otherwise :). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 21:46, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Make the nose the same color as the ear pink. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:55, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Snowfur (Q): For approval
Not that proud of her, I couldn't quite get the shading to work.



Comments? --Bluestar1776 22:23, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Some of the lineart on her ears are blurred a lot, and I can barely see any color on her nose. Also, there definately has to be some shading, and I would maybe blur the gray on the ear that's farthest from us (her left ear), it looks like a circle--Nightfall101 22:27, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - sharpened ears, darkened nose. --Bluestar1776 23:17, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add color to the nose, make the lineart on her hindleg and her front leg that is closest to us black, and lighten the eyes. Also add shading. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Joining
Hi, i'm wanting to become a member on your charart thing. Please let me know if i can. Thanks!!! --Honeyrose34 22:30, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, Hooneyrose! I'll add you now. Nice name. Bramble our leader of Sandy our deputy with give you a mentor soon.

Sorry that was me!-- *Minn owc law*  23:05, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much Minnowclaw!!!! --Honeyrose34 23:38, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome. Do you have any questions before you get a mentor?-- *Minn owc law*  00:08, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I've assigned you Mosswisker as your mentor =) Welcome to the project Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:11, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

So thankful guys!!! --Honeyrose34 22:09, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Moss- For Approval
My first loner. I think the shading needs work. Comments?-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:30, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think, If you slightly darken the shading (and thicken the shading on the back of the hind leg) it should be good. Nice job! :) P.S. Sorry I couldn't help with the sig, nice one!-- Mossy SC  23:35, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

she's REALLY good!!1just add a little more of highlights and make the ear pink. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:36, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Do I have to add a highlight? I'm not very good at them. I'll get to the shading and ear pink in a few. P.S. Its okay Mosspath, Icethroat helped me.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:40, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

well not really but either make some parts darker or lighther. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you're saying. Can you explain please?-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:43, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Good. Okay, I think i know what Sunny means. If you add a highlight in the middle of the body, it'll make the shading look darker.-- Mossy SC  23:59, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add ear pink. If it's there it's way to dark. Also blur the shading. Other then that, it looks really good. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:00, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry the earpink slipped my mind. Is this better, I darkened the shading some.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:04, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Mentor?
am I able to be a mentor yet? Icewing's been in the 24 hours stage for 48 hours now...so I should have six images approved...-- '''Pebble2Pineow> um...hi? 23:46, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Bracken, it's not up to me, but can I ask you to change your talk page link in you sig from so retarted to something else, because that is offensive to people who know people with special needs, including me.-- *Minn owc law*  23:56, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

OMg so Sorry Minnow.*slaps self* -- '''Pebble2Pineow> um...hi? 01:02, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I just approved Icewing (sorry for the delay) and it seems you fit the requirements so I've assigned you our newest member: BubblesInBlue as your first apprentice. You've really improved Bracken; your art is beautiful now =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:17, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Braken, it's okay.-- *Minn owc law*  20:16, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Join
Hello, In Bubbles and I was maybe wondering if I could join Charart as an apprentice?--~Bubbly~ 23:51, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'll add you now, but Bramble or Sandy will give you a mentor.-- *Minn owc law*  23:57, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to the Project Bubbly =) I've assigned you Bracken as your mentor. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:19, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Swiftbreeze (W)-For Aproval


Here's my first charart! I'm very proud of the tabby stripes, they were hard to do. Well here she is, Swiftbreeze from Bluestar's Prophecy--Nightfall101 04:26, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Logfur-For Approval
This is Logfur. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:46, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the stripes or lighten the pelt because it's hard to see them.-- *Minn owc law*  20:18, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

It might just be me, but the image looks very dark and very red and there seems to be some paler grey/white on the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:25, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Sparrowpelt (W) - For Approval
Okay, so I'm really sorry Shady but I checked the timings of the reservations and I did have him on my current projects before you. I would have let you have him but I'd already made him... Construtments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:43, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the stripes so it's easier to distinguish them from the pelt better.-- *Minn owc law*  20:14, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

lol. How did I know I'd never get the stripes right? I made them as dark as Braveheart's to start with, but I guess it goes to show how even two images so similar and made in exactly the same way can be so different. I went over them with the burn tool. Any better? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:23, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

No problem Sandy. I thought I had checked. -- Darkhallows 22:46, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Sweetpaw (A) - For Approval
um... not much to say... I don't even know her character as I haven't read Bluestar's Prophecy but she needed an image and wasn't reserved so... constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:43, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't know how to do torties and I am terrible at the, but this is great from what I can see besides the ear pink is very fadded into the pelt.-- *Minn owc law*  20:10, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Minnow. I know what you mean about torties... I suck, but I think I'm getting there. Reuploaded. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:21, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Nice, Sandy! But she needs more white since she is tortoiseshell-and-white; this looks like a regular tortie, which is usually mostly black/dark brown with small ginger blotches and maybe a little bit of white, while tortoiseshell-and-white cats have a significant amount of white on them. Often, they're just white cats with black and orange patches here and there. Here are some pictures of tortoiseshell-and-white/calico cats: http://images.google.com/images?q=calico%20cat&rls=com.microsoft:en-ca:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7DACA_en-GB&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi. Hope that helps! :) Sparrowsong 22:07, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Leaftail (W) - For Approval
Well...told you I needed major improvement on my tabbies. I like how the tail came out, for the tabby stripes on the body...not so good. Comments and suggestions? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:40, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

The shading and highlights are beautiful! The tabby stripes need to be a bit larger though. Try varying the size and shape of them. And, this is optional, but maybe add some stripes that don't touch the lineart, but "float" inbetween the stripes that touch the lineart. I hope I'm not confusing you or anything. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 00:56, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Not sure if this is better or worse... -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:40, November 14, 2009 (UTC)