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Feathertail (Apprentice Alt 2) ~ For Approval
I'm absolutely proud :) All colours from the alt star. Comments? CloudymoonTheCat

You should be proud! Define the shading on the tail and paws? 18:33, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth shading a little on the shoulder back and haunch, add some to the forelegs and hindlegs farthest from us and soften the stripes, maybe add a handful more if you're able. This is very good! SquidwardPlays 18:47, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smoothen the stripes some too? 18:51, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Screams bc I keep forgetting to mention things. Sharpen the gold on the shoulder and foreleg a little, and there's waste between the whiskers. SquidwardPlays 18:52, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Is it better? CloudymoonTheCat

<-- this hind leg needs more white, there's a lot on the warrior alt. Also friendly reminder to upload under File:Feathertail.apprentice.alt2.png. It was misspelled earlier (it's fixed now)Potato Flakin (talk) 23:15, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm and the stripe placement would end up matching the warrior, as would everything else to it, since the warrior's the first in the set. Would you mind adding some white/very pale gray hairs up into the earpink, to match the set? I also think there'd be more, but thinner, stripes on the tail. You're doing excellent with this, by the way

Could you define/add some more stripes on the front paw furthest from us and the back paw furthest from us? And add some cream to the hind paw furthest from us too. 03:25, January 10, 2019 (UTC)

Nice image overall. I'll promote you into an apprentice.

Reups CloudymoonTheCat

Could you maybe blur the white a little bit on her right front paw? -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝    𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣    𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~     𝕚'𝕞 𝕠𝕟 𝕒 𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~   [ 13:42, 1/10/2019 ]

Sure, I'll do it when I'll come home :) CloudymoonTheCat

Reups :) CloudymoonTheCat

Could you define the shading overall, especially on the gray? 22:03, January 10, 2019 (UTC)

I do think there'd need to be more visible pale parts on the belly and haunch, alt. warrior seems to have them, and that's first in set

Reups any better? CloudymoonTheCat

Also I'm not going to be able to work on it till tomorrow morning (UTC time) CloudymoonTheCat

The shading seems blotchy, for a lack of a better word. It seems to be darker in places and non-existent where it should be (for example the legs). It's also overblurred in places.

Reupsss CloudymoonTheCat

Can you darken the shading on the forelegs please. 13:00, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light source on the inside hind leg. Your doing great! ^^ 13:57, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded CloudymoonTheCat

Can you define the shading depth on all the legs? I think the stripes on the face need to be connected to the eyes too. Might be my eyes, but there appears to be leaky shading on the back. On the hind leg closest to us, maybe move the white so it's against the line art of the haunch? it looks a little off in the middle like it is. It also appears less soft on the warrior. You've done a great job on this so far!! 21:23, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reups :) CloudymoonTheCat

The base looks a bit too light, could you darken it a bit? Sharpen the white too. 01:03, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes a bit to match the roughness the ones on the other images have, if you would

On the front paws, the white doesn't match the placement portrayed on the star, and it's leaking a bit. —​​​​

Reups --CloudymoonTheCat 08:16, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Can you sharpen the white a bit more? might be my eyes, but it looks like it hasn't changed at all. 16:44, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, any specific places it should be sharpened? --CloudymoonTheCat 20:26, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

For reference. The red is where the white should be on the paw if you're following the star's pattern of having white underarms, blue is where the white is leaking, and green is where the white needs to be sharpened. —​​​​

Ok, thanks! --CloudymoonTheCat 10:50, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Reups yep yep :) --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat 12:35, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

We should hardly be able to see white on the shoulder looking at the other alts, and there's too much white on <- side of the haunch. you're getting there! <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 14:57, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Reups --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat 16:12, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the hind paw furthest from us? 13:17, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I'll do it when my brother will give me the computer --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 20:23, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded--<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 09:20, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 04:51, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think the stripes should be sharpened, and the shading on the -> front leg should be defined. There should be shading on the face and remove some of the shading on all the paws so they don't look so gray.

Reups --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 11:48, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

The blob of white on the hindleg closest to us looks off and I believe still that the shoulder white should be lessened to just barely be visible upon looking at her other two TUG alts. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 17:30, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean about the hind leg... Should I sharpen the white or remove it? --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 19:34, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

Remove. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 19:59, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the > back white paw, as well

Reups There you go --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 11:40, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

Define it again? It still looks very flat

Reups I accidently thought you meant the back paw farthest from us before... --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 16:25, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

The highlights are making the base color look way lighter than the alt star. The stripes also look like they've been run through a sharpen filter or something, making them look strangle pixelated. And the shading, especially on the back and head, is so dark the pattern and coloring is getting lost. Where's your light source coming from?

It's coming from the top right, though when I started this I wasn't sure what a light source is, so I might have to fix some of the shading :/ --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 08:20, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Reups I hope it's not too dark now --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 17:42, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

I know you were just told to lighten it, but could you define the shading depth on all the legs and paws (excluding the hind one closer to us, that looks good) on the front leg closest to us it looks like it's coming from the front of the body, but given the rest of the placement, it should be on the back of the leg. This is turning out great! 14:39, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Thank you Patch! :) --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    17:52, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

hmm doesn't appear you reuploaded? 01:16, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry my bad, I'll actually reupload when I'll come home. --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    07:26, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Reups --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    13:23, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Great job. Comments before approval? 21:22, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

The shading's still too dark in some places, most noticeably the top of the head, back, and the whole tail. It makes the pattern gets lost and makes the base color seem darker than it should be. Your shading doesn't seem to match the light source If the light source is coming from the top right, the top of the head should have very little shading on it, but it's one of the darkest points currently. The chest and legs also look like they're lit from the left, not the right. The tail and the front leg closest to us also look flat because the shading is overblurred there, the light needs to be more defined.

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean, could you possibly redline? --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    08:18, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, but what exactly were you wanting a redline of? The shading locations, or just circling the areas I'm talking about? Would it be ok if I sent it to you in discord?

Reups I completely re-made the shading --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    19:05, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light a lil more on back leg furthest from the tail? --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    04:36, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reups btw if anyone could help me my signature is acting weird --  Cloudymoon      cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    08:57, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Comments before vote? 15:48, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

What does that stands for? Was it supposed to be CBA? --  Cloudymoon      cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    16:24, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry. Comments before approval? 16:51, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

...I feel really bad for breaking this, but the stripes on the haunch don't match Sun's master pattern (shown first on the warrior's haunch, transferred to the toeh alt from this side). The light should also be defined on the back paws

Reups this is impossible to match her pattern perfectly, since the pose is different. I tried, tho -- 07:11, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Leader Blanks - For Approval
Uploading on my personal for now since its easier to work with. I plan on fluffing up the longhaired tail...which as I look at my cats the tails are slightly too long and I'll fix that next upload as well. <span style="">16:54 Sun Jan 20 2019

Cool! Can you shrink the ears by the smallest amount and make em more pointy? I love this BreezeyPotato&#61;) (talk) 17:46, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add whiskers? :) 18:14, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

I'd think Breezey would add the whiskers once everything else is all said and done, mainly because that seems like the least important thing, compared to making sure the anatomy and whatnot (read: floof) is correct. =P ​​​​​​​​

The shorthair's tail is a bit lumpy, could you make it more consistent in width? It's mostly where the tail curls Eggheart (talk) 22:07, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

I think the tails could be shortened a tad, it might be just me but they seem pretty long. 22:12, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

im gonna be the one who says it fluff those longhair tails up lul 22:19, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Can you make the lineart around the eyes more even? 22:20, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the lineart on the longhair's chest furPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:44, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Make the eyes a bit rounder. 03:12, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Paws look big for the legs, and make the jaws evenPotato&#61;) (talk) 02:57, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

Paws look fine to me Malina457 (talk) 17:43, January 23, 2019 (UTC)malina

The ears look a bit big for a “standard” kitty. Maybe shrink them a wee bit. Seems more like an oriental build when looking at those ears anatomy wise. ​​​​​​ <span style="">21:24, 01/23/2019

Please read comments before and my own before commenting. <span style="">2:07 Thu Jan 24 2019

I'm not 100% sure that was necessary, Breezey. There's a lot of comments on this and it's possible other comments hadn't been seen. ​​​​​​

Oop didnt see the ear comment before mine. But taking a second look, the faces (at least on the shorthair) cpuld be rounded out a tiny bit more ​​​​ <span style="">17:54, 01/24/2019

No rush, you have all the time you need, but are you still working? 08:57, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah. Just not happy with the edits I did yet. Hopefully I'll have them up this weekend. <span style="">2:41 Thu Jan 31 2019

Spikefur (Star) ~ For Approval
whoo, finally finished this in like an hour lmao I got all colors from the apprentice, as well as the spike style. He looks like my grandpa lol 04:25, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Glad he has the cite now lol. Define facial shading Potato&#61;) (talk) 04:49, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups, it's at 100 now. 05:24, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. Also, if you get asked to define the shading, you can always create extra layers of shading to define it. ​​

Andd.. I'm going to ask to define the shading and add more depth to it.

12:39, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups, hopefully the depth is better, Ari. If not mind giving me a redline of where the depth needs defined. 08:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The depth is good, but it still needs smoothing out. The edges should be a bit more of a gradient, and this is fairly blotchy. ​

Re-Ups 18:58, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not seeing much of a difference, could you smooth it more?

lightening it may help. 05:30, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Warrior blanks ~ For Approval
19:15, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Love these! The head looks a bit off though. Sorry if you don't understand this but it's hard to explain: Try connecting the <-- line from the head to the body. Then make the <-- side of the muzzle curve upward a bit and the chin protrude from that line. Basically shapen the muzzle/face a little more. Here's a red line 19:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Obligatory redline from me. —​​​

The short-haired’s tail is very uneven and almost looks crooked. Please make the entire tail even and smooth. 20:00, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Longhair's back foot is a little chubby, and the noses should be expanded in size a tad *looks at cat for reference*Potato&#61;) (talk) 20:27, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. will update longhair shortly, can't now because my latop is about to die and i don't feel like walking to get the charger. 20:31, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

There are some random lines on the shorthair's head that don't make sense, and there's waste outside --> this ear on said blankPotato&#61;) (talk) 21:41, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Could you specify which lines? Not sure if you are heading about the whiskers over the eyes. It's a preference of mine but i can remove them if necessary. 22:13, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

The lines coming off the ears. I can send a perfect screenie if needed. Now on to homework lolPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Those are whiskers. —

(Apologies for double comment; just got on my pc LOL) Here's a redline for the face. I don't necessarily think the perspective would change the level of the eyes, and I think they should be leveled out to be on the same line. Also, the muzzle needs to be a bit more rounded ish? Something like this maybe. When sketching cat heads, this is always what I do so maybe that'll help level out the head. —

Minor, but could you add a line on the shorthair going down the chest to represent the little floof of hair on the center of their chest. 22:51, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. happier with the long hairs fur now. 00:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Make them a bit bigger. 00:28, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the line for the right cheek down closer to the nose? —

Re-uploaded. noticed the back didn't match. 00:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. tweaking the longhair shortly. 00:53, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the short haired's linear art too thick?

Yeah the lineart should only be about 2 pixels thick i believe ​​​​ <span style="">01:34, 01/28/2019

I don't think there's a specific ruling for lineart thickness, but compared to the longhairs fluff it may look thicker. I personally think it's fine tho. —

Just me, but it looks like the shorthair is larger?? Malina457 (talk) 03:33, January 28, 2019 (UTC)malina

The shorthair is larger, I haven't updated the longhair's size yet. 04:25, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

The thickness should be consistent across the long haired and the short haired, at least. I still think the short haired linear art is too thick.

Re-uploaded. that was a nightmare... all the lineart or are there any particular spots that are too thick? 05:22, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. found a few spots i thought i had fixed on the shorthair. 05:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

dunno how to exacty word it but the muzzle looks too centered for the angle of the face. something's just a bit off about it. 09:16, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps shorten/erase the muzzle lines to make the style more consistent with the other blanks? Also, I think the linear art is too thick on the short haired, especially on the back.

I feel like adding a shoulder on each blank would be beneficial. The backs seem kind of flat without them. 14:13, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Here's a reference for the muzzle. I think it's fine to have them stylized like what Patch is going for. Our blanks have a wide variety of styles and the StarClan blanks had the same issue of "match the blank styles" and in the end that got overruled. I think they just need some anatomy fixes but the style is fine. —

Re-uploaded. 02:05, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded again. 03:32, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the right cheek line down to the nose? Looking good. —

these are look amazing! the only thing i see is that the 'catbrows' make them look a bit angry, could you fix that? 12:36, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I can't tell if they still look angry, but hopefully this is better. 15:55, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The shorthairs tail could be thinned a bit. looks too chub to me for a tail <span style="">17:44, 01/29/2019

Re-uploaded. 18:01, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I'm now asking this for a 5th time since my comment on this seems to keep getting ignored: can you please move the line that indicates the --> cheek down to align with the nose? —

Re-uploaded. looking back at your comments; didn't see it the first time, second time i misunderstood what you meant, i'm sorry if it seemed like i was ignoring you. Is this what you meant? 21:34, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

All good o/ This is what I mean, cheeks on a cat generally start protruding after the nose, kinda like this guy. (Though he is a bit chubby) —

They still look angry, change the position of the head whiskersPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:56, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The head whiskers are honestly fine... I'm not sure why the expression seems to be an issue. ​

Re-uploaded. ah ok i see i was being stupid, don't mind me lmao. 01:06, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

This is super nitpicky, but maybe fill in the space between the hind foot and the shoulder to front arm in with white? Only since there should be acknowledgement to the other haunch and foot that we can't see, but I don't know if that's 100% necessary. —

The line for the shoulder should be able to connect to the elbow, if that makes any sense - or the elbow should curve outwards. Also, the fluff on the haunch starting there protruding looks somewhat off on the longhair. Could you maybe add some tufts of fur above? 08:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

The muzzles still seem a bit off... I'm unsure if it's a neglect of a perspective but it keeps not looking right to me. It may be easier if you center the face rather than having them facing away, since the way it looks right now, it's as if you drew the muzzle in the center of the face, moved it over, then added lines to connect it to the side of the face, is the only way I can describe it bluntly. —

could yo make it so that the fur on the long haired blank's back doesn't appear so... suddenly? like maybe have a more visible transition 10:38, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I fixed these problems but i don't know if I'll be able to reupload today because my laptop is being annoying. I didn't touch the muzzles though, I'd rather not mess with them anymore then i have. Call me bias for working on the blank, but i really dont see it necessary and think they look fine.

16:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I think the muzzles are fine as they are. These blanks are beautiful I can’t wait to use them! <span style="">16:20, 01/30/2019

Sorry, but I agree with Echo about the muzzle. The perspective seems incorrect and they still look a tad off. 16:18, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Not to be nitpicky, but these are the warrior blanks. We're going to be making over 600 images with them. The muzzle may look fine to you and its "unnecessary" to change them, but these images are literally going to become wwiki's staple and that's why I've been so particular with your anatomy. I've studied cat anatomy for years and I'm trying to use my knowledge to help you since this blank is literally going to become wwiki's namesake, just as the last blanks were. Everh critique is necessary. —

I'm quite aware of that, but I don't agree with you on the muzzle and I would appreciate a few more opinions on it. 18:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to quickly slip in to state that I agree with Echo on the muzzles, and that i also think the ear lineart could use a tad smoothing while i'm at it. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 18:35, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

To add onto my critique, you blanks have their face at a 3/4ths position, meaning the right cheek and eyes will be more defined than the left eye and cheeks. Here's a redline of a real life example of a cat at that angle. The face should flow together, not in a perfect circle, and I think the face shape, eyes and muzzle are whats throwing off the perspective and proportions. —

hmm. it was always meant to be somewhat offcenter, from the first sketches I'd had. not negating anything just pointing out the concept for this, and it's changed a lot since those early stages, but y'know

I think the position of the head shouldn't be changed (it should still face away from the center because that's part of the pose), but the muzzle could use some tweaking.

Re-uploaded. 19:15, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

The muzzles are still off. Echo provided a redline earlier, can you follow that one? The muzzle lines seem really flat when they should be more rounded for a lack of better words. 05:06, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Messed around with the muzzle, it looks odd whenever i alter it too much, hope this is good. Also changed a few things on the longhair's tail. 14:35, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

extremely minor, but could you make it so that the whiskers protrude from the middle of the muzzle and not from the edge? 05:10, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 15:20, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the lineart thicker in the ears? 17:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

And with the right ear on the longhair, it looks like some of the ear lineart extends past the head. Can you get rid of that? 17:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe give me a screenshot of the spot on the ear? I don't see any lineart going past the head. 17:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Here you go. Is that on purpose? 17:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:45, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the inner ear lineart? 01:27, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 05:54, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Dawncloud  (Q alt) ~ CBA
I alwaays thought Dawncloud was dark brown! so her not being the right color makes sence to me!<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 23:38, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading, and the eye depth. 23:55, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, oof, dose the earpink look blue? is it just me?<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:02, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It's pretty gray, pinken it up a bit! Besides that, could you define the shading on the belly and tail? Eggheart (talk) 00:14, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, Ima re-do the stripes, I dont like them.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:38, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, stripes look better, still dont like them tho.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:50, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Define lightsource, earpink is two-toned in --> this ear, make it one color, and the shading should have some depthPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, now I like the stripes! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:05, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't appear you changed anything, it's still the same image as beforePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:12, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, oof, that is what I think half the time, I made it more noticable.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:16, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The earpink color confuses me, is it gray or pink, and the shading looks.. idk what to say, maybe flatPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:27, January 29, 2019 (UTC)]]

The ear pink looks fine imo. Some ear pinks on other chararts are grayish in color, and this color works fine with the pelt. Owlbite already did what you asked them to do, Potato. I do think the stripes are nice but could be tapered off at the ends a bit. 01:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, I had a blue shading tint... oof... <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:55, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

This looks great. But on the front left paw is the darker spot supposed to be there? 02:46, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Right paw, I mean, closest to us. 02:46, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, no, it wasnt, I messed up on stripes... <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 02:54, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It is still there. Would you like me to circle it? 03:08, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, if it is still there, than yes. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 03:13, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Right here. It may be my screen, though. 03:22, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It might just be you, I see it in that, but not on the image.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 04:33, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Earpink leaking until the first pair of whiskers? --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    07:37, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I can see what Icy means, I'm seeing it too so it might not be her computer. 09:03, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe desaturate the highlights a bit? They look kind of neon as they are right now. 13:52, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

the earpink... on the --> ear it is, on the other, it is just shading.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:11, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

There's also leaking shading on the belly, and I think on front --> paw. With the paw, I'm not 100% if that's part of your style or not, and if it is, please disregard me.

Re-up, the belly was leeking, the paw was my style.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 15:29, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Possibly desaturate the shading a bit? It looks too bright to me (not sure how else to describe it, also might just be me) define the overall depth as well? You've improved a lot and have done,  a great job with this image, keep it up!

00:30, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Waste on top of the head, screenies can be providedPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:43, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, will I ever do shading I lke? no.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:52, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

I like it, this is really well done. Can you smooth out the large stripe on the back? It looks a tad rough, but that is pretty much it. 08:09, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 03:44, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Waste along the back, screenies can be providedPotato&#61;) (talk) 17:02, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading depth on the shoulder, maybe a little by the head too.

17:32, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, I think this is getting better! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 19:11, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit more? And indeed it is. 15:49, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up,  ''Thank you Icy! ''wow, like... nothig has been said for a while!<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 16:57, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on all the paws?

18:36, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, wow, I am likeing this, sort of. <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 04:39, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

This is great. CBA?

Dawncloud (Alt Star) ~ For Approval
Yes I know the pattern is different, I had already finished this a couple days ago but didn't post it. I'll reupload when I get the chance.

Do you have to match owl's pattern or? (Not a big fan of her's but still) Malina457 (talk) 02:50, January 29, 2019 (UTC)malina

Malina, that is rude to say that you do not like her pattern. Star also said that she would be reuploading to match the pattern. 02:52, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The have to match the first put up. 02:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Was just my tired opinion, I did apologize to them Malina457 (talk) 03:15, January 29, 2019 (UTC)malina

can you lighten the eyes? they are on alkl the other images, a light blue.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:09, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I believe eye color does not matter on alts (see Crowfrost's alts)Potato&#61;) (talk) 00:16, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

imo they should match the main images. There's no reason why they shouldn't. ​

Eye colour shouldn't deviate from the written description in my opinion. I don't typically match my eye colour when doing alts, but I try to stick to whatever is cited. In this case, since she has no cited eye colour I think this colour would be okay, but lightening it couldn't hurt since they do look really dark. And regardless, they should match Owlbite's queen, so if Owlbite's queen has lighter eyes, they should match that since they're in the same set. —

Still working?

re-up yee. bye bye ticked tabby.

Shading is making the earpink turn dark purple, can you fix thatPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:50, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I actually think its fine. Shading colour is artist's choice. —

Define the shading, especially on the back. 20:10, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I'll reupload later, but why would I need to define it on the back?

Hm maybe my working was wrong. Flank/back, because to me, it is not visible. 15:48, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Jake (Alt Loner) -CBA
Henlo it me. as usual. Eye color should match the main Loner/Rogue images, all colors colopicked off a screenshot of his family tree icon excluding stripes since I believe this counts as ginger? I like the pattern I did on here. I think the shading might be a little faint but I'll fix that next upload if someone else thinks so too. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 22:11, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Collar tag needs shading and the pupil is missing Potato&#61;) (talk) 22:59, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The collar tag does have some shading on it, if you want me to define it then go ahead and say so. And the pupil is not missing. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 23:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Stunning as always! I do think the collar shading could be defined a bit more. ^^ —

Can you smooth out the inner pale part on the <--- hind leg? 01:11, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading; it looks great. 02:03, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Reups TY~ <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 03:12, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the collarPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:31, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm define the shading on the > ear, and the light on the tail and outstretched front leg

Reups <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 20:33, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail, lovely job! 00:32, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

For the tail shading, it gets lighter at the end and the stripes are not visible. Is that intentional? 05:05, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Not sure if it's my screen or not, but there's a few bright pixels right above the shoulder lineart in the neck area? 03:01, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

could you add just a little bit more shading depth in general? 05:11, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reups <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 22:22, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 15:49, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Tabby rogue (Ro) - For Approval
Oh no Hawkey, another experimental style? xD 16:17, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

It turned out good. Can you define the earpink? 16:20, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. The two stripes on the face, as well as the three on the haunch, slightly fall into issue with the triangle tabby thing. Could you try tweaking them slightly to not be so? Small touches would do it

Might I ask for an example of a "triangle tabby" so I can change my stripes appropriately? I think this may have been implemented before I came back, so I'm not really sure what those stripes would look like. ^^ 21:32, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. For lack of better examples since this was way before my time, two of the ones i can remember are this and this. so yours would be pretty easily solved for the haunch ones if for example they visibly reached all the way to the < side of the haunch, or if they tapered or curled differently as to not be that triangleish shape, and same with the facial ones, though that's one of many ways to tackle it

Reuploaded. 17:54, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Waste near the bootyPotato&#61;) (talk) 02:41, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Got it. 22:26, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Completely optional suggestion, but since I feel these still kinda border on triangle tabby... would you object to adding a dorsal stripe? If you think it's fine without, that's perfectly fine with me.

Kit Blanks - For Approval
Sorry for the delay. I made some small tweaks since I posted it on the vote. I might go back in and tweak the haunch of the longhair if it turns out to look off without the tail (since it'll need to be shown for characters like Berrynose).

<-- this ear's lineart is different on both imagesPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:18, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

I think that's because of the tufts on the longhair. Regardless, can you round out the short hair's tail a bit more? They don't look like a cat's tail. —

Could you make them a bit larger? :) Also, this is more just personal choice, but I asked a few others: would you be alright with removing the pupil lineart? I looove making the eyes and I think some people don’t like to be restricted to one type. :) 03:51, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I thickened the tail tip a bit, but kitten tail tips are a lot thinner and pointier at the tip than grown cats, so this is about as far as I wanna go. I'd rather not make the blanks larger. They were sized according to the apprentice blanks, and they're also nearly as big as the starclan and rogue blanks. I'd like these to be at least somewhat smaller than the adult blanks since they're supposed to be babies.

The primary reason we're redoing the blanks is due to the size, so I can understand (and agree with) making them a tiny bit bigger since that's what people are primarily thinking about. Maybe a by a couple pixels. —

They were already made significantly bigger than the original kit blanks though. And since they're about the same size as the apprentices, there shouldn't be any issue with them being too small unless people think those blanks (and the starclan and rogue...) are too small as well.

I think the size is fine.

If size is that much of a concern, then we should really revisit the DF blanks. The size for these is perfectly fine and considerably larger than the old kit blanks. Different pose too, much easier to work with to show the pattern. <span style="">10:49, 01/31/2019

Honestly, the size is fine. 13:22, January 31, 2019 (UTC) Ones

yeah i think the size is fine too. 14:07, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Straighten out the bottom line of lineart on the hind leg closest to us and lengthen the front leg a bit (the one closest to us) 15:41, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

I don't have any reference to know if I am right, but should the tail be at the back of it? There is some room in between the tail and the back.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 16:26, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Would you mind adding a few more fur lines to the tail of the longfurred? Or just lengthening the ones that are there to make them more visible/go deeper^^ I think the size is fine as well

Just gonna pop in and say I also think the size is fine. They're around the size of the rogue blanks, so these are perfectly acceptable as they are. ​​

You missed my comment above Paleh ^^Potato&#61;) (talk) 22:49, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

She didnt miss it, it isnt needed, the head fluff just makes it smaller Malina457 (talk) 04:57, February 1, 2019 (UTC)malina

Are they supposed to be smiling? 06:14, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Don't think the smiling really matters? And they're kits, so I guess it adds some character to them lol

I personally like the smiling! It’s cute. :P 03:48, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I was not going to ask her to change it, I was just wondering if they were, because I was just a little confused. I do not want her to change it either, it is really cute. 12:16, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Leg length is fine. They're appropriate for a kitten. <span style="">19:19 Sat Feb 2 2019

Tortoiseshell queen ~ For approval
soo, this is my first project here, I hope you like it :) 18:59, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

This is good! ^^ Remove the white, or change it to a cream color. The project defines a tortoiseshell as just black/orange, and only if they are described as 'tortoiseshell and white' do we add white.

hii add/define some earpink if you would, other images would show good colors for it. bumped this to ‘for approval’ since you know what you’re doing and welcome friend :3

Re-uploadedI hope it's okay for you like this 21:07, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading and although this is common with the queen blanks she looks slightly cross-eyedPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:53, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Do you think you could add more patches? 08:07, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

I noticed your talk page comment, defining shading means to make it darker or visiblePotato&#61;) (talk) 14:08, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 16:11, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Not breaking CBA but there's some waste outside --> that earPotato&#61;) (talk) 23:11, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

yikes i hate breaking the cba on such a beautiful image but could you make it so that the black patches blend in more? right now they kind of look like they are pasted onto the image 05:07, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Tabby with silver stripes (NP-5) (Star) - CBA
So this is described as "tabby with silver stripes" and I am well aware that our default tabby is brown, but a brown cat with silver stripes just... did not sound right, so I just made her a lighter silver with darker stripes. Please let me know if I should change it. 07:36, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Gorgeous kitty;;; Can you smooth the shading on the back a bit more? —

Re-uploaded: Thank you. 08:01, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Could you possibly define facial shading? This is adorable 😍♥️ -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    10:59, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Thank you very much. 14:52, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

The base seems almost white? I'm not very familiar with silver cats, so maybe that is what silver looks like. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:47, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the stripes? I'm having a hard time seeing them on my computer but maybe it's just my screen <span style="">16:14, 02/1/2019

Re-uploaded: Darkened the base and darkened the stripes. Hope the base is better, the reason it is so light is because I wanted the silver stripes to be visible against it, if that makes any sense? 16:22, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Colors look fine to me, but could you define the shading depth on the flank, < elbow, and face?

Could you give the stripes more variation or add more stripes so it looks more realistic?

since the light source is coming from the right, can you switch the shading on the face, as the light would be hitting the right side of the face instead? 07:13, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

The stripes are fine imo. —

Re-uploaded: May I get more opinions on the stripes? 12:21, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Can you at least give them more curve? they look like they were drawn across a 2D surface. And can you add light to the chest?

Re-uploaded: Are the stripes better now? I tried to make them curve more but I am not sure if I got the desired effect. 14:49, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 18:09, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Tortie rogue- CBA
calc and comp sci are finally over so time to waste hours on trying to be hyperrealistic 05:03, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

also guys ill remove the waste later! 05:04, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading. 05:49, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

reup 06:59, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

This is great! Do you think you could define the shading just a tad bit more, and to be more specific, the earpink? 14:54, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

The waste you mentioned is still therePotato&#61;) (talk) 17:00, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Adding on to Icy's comment, maybe expanding it more might help too. 22:42, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

reup 04:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

oh i forgot about the earpink oops will reup again 04:22, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reup 04:24, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Some of the waste is still therePotato&#61;) (talk) 04:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reup kids dont be like me and name your layers LOL 04:33, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 15:50, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

BloodClan Identical Gray Tomcat 1 (Ro) ~ CBA
Comments? 18:02, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Define light on collarPotato&#61;) (talk) 21:02, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm with this source i kinda think the chest would be in light, at least a little. Could you also add a little more light on the tailtip?

Define the shading on the ear furthest from us? 22:41, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I also played with the base a bit. 23:42, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smooth the shading on the stomach a little more?

Reuploaded. 23:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Madric (KP) ~ For Approval
00:14, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

will tweak that ear. 00:14, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Waste in between front legs near the chestPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:51, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

I had to zoom in to see the scar on his muzzle, but I am on my phone so I’m not sure if that has anything to do with it... But it looks pretty red so i think it should be pinker and more like a healed scratch and not fresh 🤷‍♀️ <span style="">04:33, 02/3/2019

There are missing pixels on the big ear's tip, and although Ferk says she can see the scar, I can'tPotato&#61;) (talk) 04:38, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded potato, I said I would get to that ear. and the scar is dark because you literally cannot see it otherwise, I've already tried to make it pale. 05:00, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

OH ok. Whatever floats your boat Skt. Waste near <-- this front legPotato&#61;) (talk) 05:02, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Lily (KP) ~ CBA
00:14, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Lighter pixels have been spotted on the bigger earPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:58, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded 05:02, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Rose (TS) (KP) - For Approval
who else but me. i was gonna do a rose charm but just did a velvet ribbon for a collar instead <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 00:17, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Where's the pupil in --> this eyePotato&#61;) (talk) 00:52, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Also found some waste ouside the outstretched front legPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:53, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

And define eye depth while you're at it Squidward, sorry for bombarding you with critiquePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Shading is leaking away from the lineart just above where the tail meets the body (topside) and on the back. I also think the shading in < ear could be defined

Patch (KP) (KP) ~ CBA
i tried to do little fish but it didn't work out.. so little waves it is :/ 00:27, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Define shading everywhere but the bellyPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Just redid it, I didn't like it in general lmao 01:11, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Would you mind adding a slight amount of shading on the underside of the outstretched > front leg? Just a sliver with this source, but it'd still show slightly

Reuploaded 02:47, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Fuzzball (KP) - CBA
boooowtie

Define the collar shadingPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:57, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

CBA for our Lord and Savior Fuzzball?

Billystorm (KP) - CBA


Define tail and --> that front leg's shadingPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:57, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

CBA?

Nightcloud (KP) - CBA
Comments? 00:41, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in --> that eye, it's all blackPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:56, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Define the collar shading slightly? 01:00, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:17, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

could you smooth the shading so it blends gradually mostly towards where the lighter parts. 03:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 04:22, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm I'm not sure she should have a collar? CT had that scene in pretty good detail, and she never had one there, so (shrug); feel free to disagree if people think it should stay though

I have to agree with Spooky, she was never cited with a collar, besides Nightcloud would try to tear it off first thing lolPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:40, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

you could actyally try adding the cone of shame since she had one of those i wouksnt object lmao 22:47, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I don't think I'll be able to do the cone. 23:28, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

It's alright, man. We'd probably get shot for doing it anyways. CBA?

Princess (KP) - CBA
Unsure about this 0: —

Reuploaded Shading stuff. —

Define eye depth and smooth out the shading that reaches the backPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Not sure what you meant by back shading. —

Define eye depth again and the shading that goes from the belly to the backPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:01, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The eye depth is fine to me. 01:12, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I usually add some shine to my eyes but didn't this time. Added it so hopefully this helps, but I think the eye shading is fine. —

I think the stripes on the queen are just a wee bit softer than what you have here. They look like they were blurred ever-so-slightly with a very low power blur tool.

Reuploaded —

CBA?

Firestar (KP) - For Approval
Not sure how much I like this. No matter what I do the stripes still seem way too thick. Not sure how to fix that. 01:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Some of the stripes go onto his belly according to his StarClan, and the top paw pads on the outstretched front leg are gray and not pinkPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:28, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the shading on his midsection? The transition from shade to light is just kinda abrupt. love me some rusty  <span style="">04:28, 02/3/2019

Define tongue shadingPotato&#61;) (talk) 04:36, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Should have a little gold bell; or well, it’s shown as round and gold in manga, but somethings or another would need to he added based on what’s in ITW with the whole thing about his bell making noise in the forest. It’s just not in his description anymore because yeah lmao

Re-uploaded: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:17, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Collar tag needs lineartPotato&#61;) (talk) 15:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

There is lineart, it is just a darker gold. Want me to change it to black? 15:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

yes, I think you should, and can you define the shading while you are at it?<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 16:42, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The stripes neeed to be thicker and smudged more.

16:44, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah change it to black, it'll make it more 3DPotato&#61;) (talk) 16:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I think I like the stripes better now? 17:08, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Define light on collar, this is gorgeous IcyPotato&#61;) (talk) 19:00, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Thanks! 19:34, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

There's some lighter pixels on the tip of the tail, and some leaking shading around the tag. 19:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Do you think you could circle the leaking shading? 22:17, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I might have found it. But if I did not, does someone mind showing me where it is? 22:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

I should've given you a redline earlier, my apologies 22:47, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 22:54, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. Could you desaturate the shading a little? It's making the stripes disappear into it

Re-uploaded: This was kinda hard to desaturate, if it still is not enough, does anyone have any other ideas how to desaturate it? 00:52, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Loki (KP) ~ CBA
I had this all up and ready to go until I realize there was a rogue I needed to match whoops. 01:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you expand the shading on the base of the tummy a little? I love black kitties <3

Reups 04:30, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

okay, 1, that is the best collar ever! and 2, it the toung and earpink ment to be red? it looks red to me.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 16:50, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks you! I spent wayyyy too long on the collar. Gotta show some appreciation to the Marvel Loki, ya know? Anyway, the earpink is colorpicked from the rogue, and I originally had the pink a paler color but the hue differences between the tongue and earpink were too drastic imo so I made them both match. If that makes any sense...I can always change the tongue color back though. 18:04, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups 20:06, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Sol (KP) - For Approval
I'll adjust the colors tomorrow my eyes hurt <span style="">01:53 Sun Feb 3

Add a little shading to the tongue and is the earpink meant to be two-tonePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:58, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

could you make the patches... blend in more, like on the rogue image? not totally sure how to explain it 05:39, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Smoke (KP) ~ CBA
01:54, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

re-uploaded. not a huge fan of the shading but tried fixing it up a bit. 05:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the shading on that middle section of the tail? It's fine at the base and tip though

re-uploaded. 05:37, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Nami (KP) - CBA
Kind of miss her being tabby <span style="">01:54 Sun Feb 3

I've always been a fan of the colors used for her; CBA?

Cody (KP) ~ For Approval
Referenced both the queen and the KP. I can remove the bow if want, I just thought it would be a fun addition. —

Hmm I know highlights are artist's choice, but could you dim them very slightly on the < front arm's shoulder and haunch? It just makes it seem like a different color than the queen

keep the bow. It is cute, and I love it! Can yyou smooth out the toung shading?

I see nothing wrong with the tongue Owlbite, though it could be smoothed out on the backPotato&#61;) (talk) 16:56, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hmm.. I actually like it without the highlights. Also, Potato, Cody has a dorsal stripe, so that may be what you're seeing with the shading but if someone else thinks differently lemme know. 0: —

Could you define the earpink and add some to the <-- side of the face. With your light source there should be some there as well as one the ear. 13:28, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Rileypool (KP) ~ For Approval
04:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

could you perhaps brighten the colour of the tongue? It might just be me, but I almost couldn't distinguish it from the pelt + shading - if not totally disregard my comment! 20:01 Sun Feb 3 2019

Reups 20:06, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Gosh, this is so beautiful, especially the shading! Could you fill in the little pad on the front leg that is outstretched? It’s right beside the tongue. 23:37, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Thanks! 00:25, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the nose or darken itPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:47, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

It's not all that noticeable on the apprentice either. I think the nose is perfectly fine as-is. ​

Also, sorry for the double comment, but the stripes on the apprentice seem softer than what you have here. Could you possibly smudge them a bit? ​

Reups Yeah, the nose is colorpicked from the apprentice. Not much I can do there. 01:48, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Max (KP) (KP) - CBA
my sonion (literally grabbed him for his name lmao) 04:25 Sun Feb 3 2019

Blend the earpink a little, looks a little hardPotato&#61;) (talk) 04:35, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded also gave him a normal collar 'cos he has a cite for one whoops 04:43 Sun Feb 3 2019

Waste under the outstretched front leg and above the collar near the neckPotato&#61;) (talk) 04:48, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded 04:51 Sun Feb 3 2019

Why is the bandana backPotato&#61;) (talk) 04:53, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reups cos I picked the wrong file whoops 04:54 Sun Feb 3 2019

Could you smooth out the shading on the tail? And, I think that's shading, and if it is, can you lighten it on the <--- hind leg? It appears very black. 22:39, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reups 00:32 Mon Feb 4 2019

CBA? I love this. God, I was hoping you'd show up again to bless us with your art, man.

Tallstar (KP) ~ For Approval
i put a collar on him since I can't seem to find a cite that said he didn't have one. Yes, I know the shading needs darkened, I'll do that on my next upload. 05:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

considering he was a feral cat at the vet and would highly object to wearing one, as well as no one making any kind of deal or notice that he was wearing one, he really shouldn't have it, especially as a main pov. his tail also needs to be longer. 05:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

pawpads and tongue unfilled

Make the tail loonnnnngerrrr Potato&#61;) (talk) 05:35, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Nope Skt beat me to itPotato&#61;) (talk) 05:39, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah but we don't necessarily know if he was wearing one or not. I'll remove it if I have to but I added it because the collar had no cite if he had one or not. I even read the chapters he was a kittypet while doing this. 16:05, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Not that I wrote the book or anything, but I definitely think that he would have noticed if he had a collar on him, so I agree with Trolly about removing it. 17:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Remove the collar; if he had one, there's no way he wouldn't have pointed it out. Plus, he wasn't owned by these Twolegs, they were just taking care of him. There's no reason for him to have the collar.

can you fill in the paw pads and the tongue? especially the tongue, not sure if pawpads can be white 05:36, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

^ DOn't think so? Cats generally have black/brown/pink paw pads. Also I think the nose is unfilled too. —

Yeah, I'm removing the collar and the filling in the stuff but I think Spook pointed those out earlier. 13:19, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

oh im dumb lol yeah sorry splook for repeating 13:31, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Crystal (KP) ~ For Approval
this is garbage

Add some shading to the tonguePotato&#61;) (talk) 13:54, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Found some waste outside the back and outstretched front legPotato&#61;) (talk) 13:57, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I hope i got rid of it

Nope some of it is still there, it's also outside the tailPotato&#61;) (talk) 14:07, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not seeing any waste.. Could you extend some of the shading on the booty? 16:06, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

No, I can see it too. It’s right outside the back lineart where it dips in for the shoulder, and outside the tail about halfway down. This is pretty! 23:36, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded thanks Winter. Is this better now?

Marmalade (KP) ~ For Approval
It's marmalade jar on his collar, i have such a great sense of humour tried to match the loner dont yell at me pls --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    07:12, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The loner's markings are much duller, could you smooth out the markings and make them a bit duller? —

reups of course --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    07:28, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The ginger spots, stripes, and dorsal stripe are darker on the lonerPotato&#61;) (talk) 13:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Found some waste outside the tonguePotato&#61;) (talk) 13:56, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

maybe add another section of clumped fur to his chest - just under the collar? I'm not sure if you have to match to loner for fur tweaks, but that image does have a clump there 19:59 Sun Feb 3 2019

The dorsal stripes and the markings are definitely duller and lighter on the loner. The dorsal stripe is far, far too dark here. 22:13, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Blend the earpink, it's a little hardPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you elongate the spots? The rogue has more of a blotchy stripe pattern going on, especially on the flank. 22:37, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth out most of the shading? And it looks to dark on most of it. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:26, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, I dont think there's waste? I checked. It's either just the base or lineart. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    10:45, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reups redid the stripes since it looked rough ;; --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    10:56, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'll get rid of some minor line art merges in the next reupload. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    10:57, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Gonna fix shading in another reup. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    14:04, February 4, 2019 (UTC) L

Bumble (kp) ~ for approval
I tried. -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    08:03, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups tried to make the patches stand out more -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    12:04, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the shading a little bit? 13:52, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Pupil is missing in --> that eyePotato&#61;) (talk) 13:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Also blend the earpink, looks a little hard--Potato&#61;) (talk) 14:09, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

that eye just shows the edge so I don't think it'd be seen that well anyway, define the earpink. 16:08, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups the pupil was definitely there, it was just a bit hard to see. Hopefully this better now --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    16:39, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Unfilled pawpadson the two back legs--Potato&#61;) (talk) 17:03, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

They are filled in, I just tried to make them look natural so they colour isn't outstanding. Second opinion please? --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    17:08, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The pawpads look fine to me. Can you define the light on the white? 17:15, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    18:04, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Your signature is causing my screen to switch from Visual to Source.. hmm. Blend the earpink more, still looks pretty hard--Potato&#61;) (talk) 19:09, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

I don't know whatever my sig is doing, I as I said it is acting weird. I'll reup soon --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    19:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    19:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

This is good but the loner has more patches on the tail and they are much boldet and sharper than what's here, and there are noticeable dark spots all over the loner. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 20:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

These areas need to be filled in. —

could you make the shading more defined in general? its kinda hard to see 05:35, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

reups the nose and collar tag was filled in, there colour was just very pale. -- 07:25, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define light on tail? --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    12:00, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Patch style, placement and pattern do not match. Loners are done way different, I can't think of how to describe them though so just look at it. The dark spots should also be visible upon the black. The placement doesn't seem nearly close and even if it's a different pose the side it shows is still the same so placement should be matched and the appearance of the patches should too and there needs to be patches on the tail. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 12:48, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I accidentally uploaded an older file (one when I only touched the pawpads, shading, nose and just started on tweaking the pattern) I'll upload the correct one when I'll come home. -- 14:04, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Jessy (KP)- for approval
honestly a sloppy work of mine but passable– had to do her cuz shes bae. also admin, I named this wrong, can yall help fix that, thanks! 14:28, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Nice work! Add/Define the collar shading though. ^^

14:30, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Waste outside the bigger earPotato&#61;) (talk) 15:11, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Renamed it for you. 15:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the shading overall please. 16:09, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the haunch. 18:23, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

can you add shading on the collar? I dont see any. <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:27, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

reup rip solid cats– one thing i havent improved on since i joined tbh 03:46, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

There's some waste by the front paw. Can you smooth out the tail shading?

reup did my best 05:27, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

BloodClan gray she-cat (Ro)- For Approval
I did not expect a solid cat to be this difficult! Eggheart (talk) 18:46, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

This is nice Eggheart. Define the earpink a little more and I think there should be one more tooth on the collarPotato&#61;) (talk) 19:01, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

That looks great! Define the shading? -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    19:24, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Waste outside the booty and nosePotato&#61;) (talk) 19:41, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you possibly expand the shading everywhere? I could barely tell it was there (but that could also be because I just woke up). ​​​

reup --Eggheart (talk) 20:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the shading on the ears a tiny bit? :) Great job Egg!! 23:34, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reup Eggheart (talk) 01:54, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Cloudtail (KP) - For Approval
baby. ty Echo for letting me use the lineart from Cody. ​​​​

Wait Jayce, I don't think he was cited with a collar.. anyways unfilled paw pad on the outstretched front legPotato&#61;) (talk) 21:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Agreed, he should not have a collar. 22:01, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Since he was an "outdoor cat" and he lived with the Clans while he was a kittypet essentially, I don't think he should have a collar, I'm sorry ;; —

Re-uploaded. Doesn't look right without it, but meh. ​​​

Unfilled paw pad is still unfilled, it's the one on the leg, not the paw itselfPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:13, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

smooth out and/or lighten the shading on the haunch and shoulder

Can you lighten the shading a teensy bit? 22:13, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Blob of waste in between the earsPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ​

Can you blend the shading a bit more? —

Re-uploaded. Where? Because I see shading a lot sharper than this on images, and I wasn't going for the super smooth look. ​

Shoulder, haunch and the base of the tail. —

Re-uploaded. I tried. ​

can you smoothen out the shading at the base of the tail? <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:28, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Not without losing what little depth it has, honestly. I already had it smoother than that before, but didn't like how it looked.

There's some waste on his neck, and the shading on the neck fluff is leading. —

Re-uploaded. This waste is starting to actually annoy me. Also, it's not leaking on <-- side, if that's what you're talking about...it's intentional.

Pinestar (KP) - For Approval
All colors (ear pink and whatnot) from his other images. ​​​

Same things from Cloudtail ^^Potato&#61;) (talk) 21:56, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not removing his collar on this image. For Cloudtail, I could understand, but definitely not Pinestar. ​​

We didn't really see Pinestar beyond him joining Shanty's twolegs so. It's fine to assume here. —

Re-uploaded. ​​

Unfilled paw pad still there, same as CloudtailPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:13, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ​

Define the shading. 22:22, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

At this point I might sound nitpicky but the paw pad is still unfilled.. screenie. same for Cloudtail tooPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:27, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Bellaleaf (KP) - For Approval
all colors and opacities from her loner and previous kittypet <span style="">22:13, 02/3/2019

Define the light on the collar? 22:35, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reup <span style="">22:59, 02/3/2019

This is excellent. Can you define the shading on the outstretched front paw? 01:16, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reup Thank you icy <span style="">14:47, 02/4/2019

Pickle (KP) - For Approval
just because his name is pickle <span style="">22:13, 02/3/2019

He needs a squashed-in facePotato&#61;) (talk) 22:14, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded I cant believe I forgot his squash face <span style="">22:27, 02/3/2019

Smooth out the shading on the haunch and shoulder? 22:33, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reup not sure if that made much of a difference but I cant seem to get it to blur anymore than this <span style="">22:53, 02/3/2019

Could you add a layer of shading depth?

Hmm, add some shading stretching outwards to the > front paw?

reupp so many layers of shading lmao <span style="">14:43, 02/4/2019

Tyr (KP) - For Approval
Aaaa I’m so happy with how this turned out! It’s a totally new shading style for me. I went for sharp, smudged, and kinda blending in with the texture. It was fun! :) 22:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

White pixels spotted on the left side of the bigger ear near the collar, oh Winter this is amazingPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 22:35, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Shading is leaking here. —

Reuploaded. 22:40, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

This is beautiful winter! ^o^ but the texture seems to be cross-crossing on the flank. 23:33, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Me and Ari discussed the texture and I will leave it as is for now, unless anyone else thinks I should change it. I wanted it to be kind of messy and to be similar to the old image, but I can change it if necessary. :) 01:43, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Shading’s a little sharp just here on the backside of the leg

Reuploaded. 05:07, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

i think this should have a darker face. just look at the vast majority and they have it. (not sure why a fawn one has brown, but that's irrelevant as this is warriors.) 06:50, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Just wanted to pop in and say that Burmese = sepia pattern, always. And sepia pattern has the exact same placement as points. That means face, ears, legs, and tail are all at least somewhat darker than the body (brown in this case, I'm assuming the fawn part is describing the paler color? that would make a lot more sense) unless they're kittens, with the face and ears usually being the darkest part. Leaving off the face markings would be like leaving them off on a cat described as a colorpoint just because it didn't specifically mention the face's color. "Burmese" counts a specific pattern and that pattern always includes a dark face.

Stormcloud (KP) ~ For Approval
Comments? 00:22, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smoothen out the shading on the flank? Eggheart (talk) 00:37, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:44, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Ajax (KP) - For Approval
not sure what i was trying to do with the patches but i think it's better than my first attempt. 00:56, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the patches a bit more? They look slightly sharp. This is nice! 01:38, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

re-uploaded. mfw i realize im doing too much art. also thank you winter ^^ 05:40, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Smudge (KP) ~ For Approval
tried to match the old pattern but I probably didn't do it any justice

I like it :3 could you smooth the shading at the top of the white on the chest, and I think one of the paw parts on the > front leg is unfilled?

Re-uploaded thanks Spooky. Did I fill in the right spot?

Ziggy (KP) ~ For Approval
He was based on my cat and my cat is a ticked tabby. I'm not sure if this fits in so i might have to scrap it --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    11:59, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm I would add a bit more white to fit his description and also the shading needs to be smoothed along the back. 13:16, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Where is your light source I'm having a hard time telling as there seems to be shading at the top of --> leg and then the back of the tail. 13:21, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Sasha (KP) - For Approval
Love this sweet, tough, independent kitty! 15:16, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Great job! But with this light source, would there be shading on the back? 15:41, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! The light source is supposed to be coming from the front, so yes. 15:44, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define the tail shading Malina457 (talk) 16:29, February 4, 2019 (UTC)malina