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Dapplenose (A) For Approval
fail,fail,such a fail.The sun is the left corner not the right.That's why the shading is on the bottom. S n i c k e r s 11 Days! 23:35, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

You'll have to resave the blank. Here:



Also, look at a turtorial for the eyes. And I can't see much shading.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 23:54, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I resized it:

It's going to need to be blurred a lot more to look like her other images and shading. Dark hallows 01:44, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Pixlr's blurring tool is very bad,but I'll try. S n i c k e r s  8 Days! 21:09, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

CoughUseGIMPcoughcough ;) The blurring tool is at least twice as strong as pixlr's. insane  brick'd 21:39, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thats's why I don't use Pixlr... GIMP is so much better (I also have photoshop, but never use it...) Dark hallows 23:12, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

I won't be able to get on any art program for a couple days....Dunno why.Give me ummm 4 days. S n i c k e r s  7 Days! 18:00, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it a lot more. And the line art is messed up at the eye area. FrostHeart 03:07, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Like I said, I'll try to blur it more. S n i c k e r s   7 Days! 19:45, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  S n i c k e r s   3 Days! Whoohoo! 19:46, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Pixlr is fine and is in my opinion better the GIMP once you know how to use it properly. I'll make a tutorial in a day or so showing you how. xD For the image: Blur the hgihlights some more. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  17:06, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Will do. $ Coolstar  $  19:50, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Needs to be blurred and smudged some more to look like her elder and warrior image, try going for a smoother effect :) Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 00:17, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Rrrr. Pixlr froze when I opened it.Not again. =( I'll keep trying to get it to work. ~ Blue Lightning Strikes! I'm so shocked  11:42, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Snickers Oh the simpleness of simple stuff  13:10, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the eye line art and I think this will be ready. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:09, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Where...Oh never mind, I see.Will do. Snickers Oh the simpleness of simple stuff  21:16, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

ReuploadedGol den thorn Epic! 11:51, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

She's beautiful! --  Sky dragon Ride the wind 23:31, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! *blushes* Snickers

Comments? Gol den thorn Epic! 14:07, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome! Just add some more highlights! :Sun spirit  ☮ 05:01, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I have highlights.... Snickers!

The highlights look fine to me but the eye still bothers me. I think it's the way you colored it. It looks too big. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  14:21, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed eye.I had an extra white space in it, that's why it looked weird. Gol den thorn Epic! 21:09, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Make the ear pink more visible. Icefall Icy Winds 22:07, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

The eye line art still isn't quite right. It looks like the pixels for the eye lash was moved up a bit. Can you try fixing that?-- Night s h i n e   R  05:47, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay! I'll have it done in a few minutes. OMG...You killed It! 12:23, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded OMG...You killed It!  12:38, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the fur. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! Here comesSUMMER!   23:36, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it smaller. I agree with Mouse, lighten the fur. Icefall Icy Winds 22:32, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

You're right, the ear pink out turned weird.... Z Nightsong  01:06, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Z  Nightsong  13:29, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Add some tail shading. I also can't see the eye color very well. Dark hallows 23:39, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Z  Nightsong 17:16, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be more triangular and the darker patches need blending more. -- Sandy star 12:15, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I won't be able to work on this 'till the 27th.Please don't decline.  Z  Nightsong 00:43, June 22, 2010 (UTC) Reuploaded Nevermind about my previous comment, I was thinking about July.  Z  Nightsong 17:08, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur everything. Icefall Icy Winds 20:12, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Z  Nightsong 13:05, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit pinker. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:19, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Try and see if you can make the base color a darker color, like the warrior and elder picture Tot  all  yta  wny  pelt Feelin' the heat!


 * I disagree, the colouring looks fine to me, but the ear pink is the wrong colour as Ash said. Fix that and personally I think it's good to go. -- Sandy star 14:15, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will have to be declined (which would be a shame as it is so close to approval) -- Sandy star 14:47, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get to it in a bit. I had computer problems. Z  Nightsong 19:05, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any better?  Z  Nightsong 19:34, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make it a bit more redish.

it looks good Nightmask 00:28, July 3, 2010 (UTC)Nightmask Nightmask 00:28, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Gorsestar (W) For Approval
So here he is. He's my first one, so I know he's not that great, but what do you think? Let me know if this is under the limit; I think it is, but I'm not sure. Skydragon 18:13, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Wow this is really good perhaps where you put the stripe below his ear you should've put another stripe as on his leader image he has two grey stripes either side. Hope that helps :D :)Wildear~101:) 18:32, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good but the file needs to be named Gorsestar.warrior.png. Jpg files dont have the best quality and look pixilated. Besides that darken the shading a bit. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:28, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Very nice :) Thicken the stripes a bit, in addition to what Wildear and Ashshadow have said  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 19:49, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Is this better? Skydragon 21:30, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''It still looked funny to me, so I fixed it again. Skydragon 18:24, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add a few more stripes on his haunch and tail and thicken them a bit-- Night s h i n e   R  01:51, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I don't think he has any more stripes on his tail in his leader image. Is this better though? Skydragon Ride the wind.... 02:42, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Move the tail stripes up more. Lengthen the stripes on his haunch a bit more-- Night s h i n e   R  16:32, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Lengthened the stripes and moved the ones on his tail. Skydragon Ride the wind.... 17:52, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more and this should be ready-- Night s h i n e   R  06:33, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Darkened the shading. Skydragon Listen...the wind is singing... 14:53, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

He's very nice, Skydragon! There's just one thing that's bugging me; on the first tabby stripe going down the back, there's a pixel that sits in between the Y fold. Does that make any sense to you? Holly dapple  01:54, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

It bugged me too, but I looked at the leader image and it was in the leader image, so... -- Snickers

Oh, okay, then. Sorry. If anything, brighten the highlights on the face. If you don't use highlights (I don't think they're neccesary), then don't bother, but it looks like you do, so maybe try that. Holly dapple  03:22, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I added a highlight to the face.  Sky dra gon    Follow the wind...  14:46, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

This may just be my moniter but I can barely see the shading. Can you darken it more. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  18:16, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''darkened shading.  Sky dragon Ride the wind 18:35, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Try changing the color of the ear pink to a more darker color, like on Ashfoot. This looks really nice! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 14:02, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Is that better? It's not darker, but it's closer to Ashfoot's.  Sky dragon Ride the wind 14:50, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think that looks much better....can't really see anything else. Good job! =D -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:36, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes. Mo onp elt TM 23:15, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, it matches the leader image. I think it looks fine.  Mo us  et  al  on  !!  Here comesSUMMER!  23:20, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'm gonna be gone until about the 20th of this month, and I won't be able to work on him. Please don't delete him. Thanx!-- Whisper on the wind   Skydragon  03:20, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know...I think it needs more stripes. Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 03:27, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like his leader image. I tink it has the right number of stripes; you can't even see the entire side of his body in the leader image anyway. Kaoru  Hitachiin  21:43, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

He does need to add a couple more stripes to the (our) right foreleg. <font color="#009900">  M  o  o  n  p  e  l  t   1786 22:06, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about that, Moonpelt, because I've been working on Gorsestar's deputy image, so I've been studying the leader image very hard, and I haven't seen any other stripes on that foreleg, though Skydragon does need to add one of those funny spots to it. Holly dapple  15:41, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it bigger. Lighten the stripes a tad. Icefall Icy Winds 22:32, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hi everybody, I'm back! I added the spot on his foot and darkened the ear, but I didn't do anything to the stripes because I used the same color as on his leader image. Let me know if I still need to lighten them!

I'd lighten them a tinsy bit, I think the shading makes them look too dark. Thicken the stripe on his front leg farthest from us, and darken the shading on both the front legs Night  Fall 00:39, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I darkened the shading on his legs, and I tried to thicken that one stripe and lighten the others. Let me know if it worked.

Blur the tabby markings, on the tail, and desaturate the ear pink. Dawny  00:20, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred the markings on his tail and desaturated the ear pink.

Make the stripes a little longer Night  Fall 04:19, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and darken the ear pink. Icefall Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I lengthened the stripes, but I can't darken the shading or ear much more before they get too dark.

Okay, just blur the stripes slightly and he looks good to me. -- Sandy star 16:37, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred the stripes. Anything else?

I would say to make the ear pink bigger, and darken it. Icefall★ Talk 13:51, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the ear pink needs to be any bigger or darkened. It seems to be large enough to me, and it also looks too dark. You should lighten it again. Holly dapple  18:02, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sooo... am I darkening it or lightening it? -- Sky Storm's brewing... 22:59, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say lighten it. And make it more red, right now it looks too purple. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 14:51, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is that better? -- Sky Storm's brewing... 01:43, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Pebbleheart(W) For Approval
This is like...Horrible. Comments?<font color="Aquamarine">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Aquamarine"> Hail to the awesome WAGE! 01:59, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is great!! Just thicken the shading a lot so it is like his medicine cat image. Blur the stripes more-- Night s h i n e   R  02:03, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? GIMP is SO much better than Pixlr's blurring tool! <font color="Aquamarine">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Aquamarine"> Hail to the awesome WAGE! 22:51, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Perfect! This is really nice. :) Moontail  Me Rocks!  14:42, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand where your light source is from. Most images have the shading on the tail, for example, on the bottom. And, the shading needs serious blurring. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   18:50, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Sorry, it just doesn't blur anymore.<font color="Aquamarine">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Aquamarine"> Hail to the awesome WAGE! 20:23, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps darken the other side a little (the lighter one) so that it looks somewhat even? And the ear pink is too small. 雨 晶須  21:55, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred alot more. I can help if you'd like. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  14:42, June 8, 2010 (UTC) Thank you Ash :) I'd appreciate it. I spent like 5 minutes on blurring!<font color="Turqoise">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 02:27, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. I've blurred the shading some for you Sky. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan'''  19:39, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

I can't tell where the light source is coming from; on the shading of the body it's from one direction, and on the shading of the tail it's from another almost opposite. The light source needs to all be from one direction, so either change the shading on the body or the tail (probably easier on the tail). $  Ice thr oat   %  Exploring  through the   galaxies... 02:02, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more. Quailflight 07:58, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading is fine as is. It looks like the approved example and I always thought the light was coming from above. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  18:57, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made earpink bigger. Oh, and thanks Ash <font color="Turqoise">Sky <font color="Orange">wish16 <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 22:47, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. If they don't or won't blur, than use the smudge tool to get a similar effect. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   16:39, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and stripes. Icefall Icy Winds 22:28, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred stripes+shading <font color="Orange">Sky <font color="Orange">wish <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 00:19, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink and blur the shading some more Night  Fall 04:20, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest lightining the shading some at this point. This style is hard to blur without destroying the tabby stripes. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  14:19, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shoulder lineart looks weird. Thicken it. Icefall★ Talk 14:22, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar (Ki) - For Approval


Yeah, well, can't say much about this one. Pretty bad, eh? SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 06:09, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

The tail looks odd. Try making it bend toward him. Make the stripes more v shaped like his leader image.-- Night s h i n e   R  06:25, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

He looks black on my screen. Maybe lighten him a bit? Skydragon Listen...the wind is singing... 14:54, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wow I haven't been on in soooo long... Anyway, he's a tad too dark, like Skydragon said, and I think there are a few gray pixels near the top of his tail (in background). 雨 晶須  21:15, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe thicken the top of his tail a bit. It looks mor squished than broken to me. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:45, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I've copied the colour from the rogue image, but if it isn't right, then I'll change it. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 13:47, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I don't exactly understand what you mean by bending the tail, and Ashshadow, how do I make it look broken? Sharpen the bend in the tail? Also, this can only be uploaded again after five - six days. See here. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 13:57, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

I just meant thicken the top part a little bit. It looks flatened rather than broken. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  14:26, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights on his chest and forepaws. Holly dapple  04:51, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 07:04, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I've noticed that the other images of Brokenstar. He Is a little bit lighter than that. S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 07:26, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I made a redline for what I meant about the tail. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:16, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and sharpen the stripes. Make the lineart on the tail a tad thicker. Icefall Icy Winds 22:27, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 06:44, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the highlight on the chest as it looks like a white smear. -- Sandy star 12:54, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 06:33, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Just saying I think the break in the tail might look better closer to his body. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 13:25, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten him just a tad. 雨 晶須  22:20, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Lightning talk 04:31, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add two stripes coming out of the corners of his eyes, like his other images. Also, thicken the lineart on his tail tip Night  Fall 04:21, June 25, 2010 (UTC

Define the ear pink. Icefall Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten him up a bit. Well, the non-striped area, at least. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 23:28, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstorm (D)- For Approval
Yay! Second charart! =) What should I do to improve it? <font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:09, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Her ear pink should be darker, shading needs to be blurred more, and her tail needs more shading. 雨 晶須  23:12, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Close the gaps in the shading and blur it more. Also add shading to the legs and tail. FrostCloud 23:14, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

This looks yellow as opposed to ginger. Try saturating her some Night  Fall 23:19, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, as stated above, and the ear pink needs to be moved more into the ear and lightened. Also, remember to put "For Approval" in the discussion title.  Mo us  et  al  on  !!  Here comesSUMMER!  14:14, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

The eye should be made like this: File:Eye Chart.png (see the warrior version), instead of the current eye. The saturation tool is a sponge located near the dodge and shading tools, so use that to saturate the pelt color and give it more of a ginger color. Define the ear pink some more, but not too much. The two hind paws should also have shading, and the top of the head. <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 15:35, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading and define the ear pink. Darken the shading on the tail, and add shading to the back paws, and muzzle to the top of the head. The ear not facing us should have shading, too. Ice fall 00:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 14:46, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Darken the shading on the main part of her body and darken the earpink. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  22:37, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well, could be just me, but I don't see any highlights. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 03:33, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights aren't needed. Blur the shading-- Night s h i n e   R  03:43, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:20, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Shadings needs to be blurred a bit more and make the ear pink more pinkish, this is good overall ;) Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 04:22, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 19:52, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more. --  Sky dragon Ride the wind 23:40, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shadings on the head.. Dawnleaf. Deputy of SnowClan  02:52, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 21:20, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

This is really sweet :) The back shading is very thick though, maybe thin it a bit? And maybe make the ear pink a bit pinker? On my computer, it looks very red. Brightfrost  of SunClan...  15:14, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. =) Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 16:05, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Comments?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:08, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a lot and blur the shading. The fur colour is a little bright, so I suggest saturating it a bit-- Night s h i n e   R  05:52, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

This may be my monitor, but the white pixel on the eye looks a dull, you might want to brighten it a bit. River pelt Heart of Amber 20:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think it might be your monitor, because it looks fine on mine... then again, I'm probably misunderstanding what your talking about. =) However, I did darken the ear pink and blurred the shading and saturated it; is it better? Oh, and by the way, I'm stuck in a summer school session from June 14th to June 25th, so I might have some difficulties getting on to work, but I should be able to. I'm going out of town after that though, and I won't have access to a computer very often, if at all.<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:21, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading. It still looks too neon orange coloured. Darken the ear pink-- Night s h i n e   R  23:24, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur it. Darken the image. Icefall Icy Winds 22:26, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:18, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Try desaturating it with the sponge.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Also darken the shading and earpink. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:51, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Did I darken the image too much?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:53, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Way too dark, and bright. It looks neon. Lighten it. Quailflight 20:55, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm really confused... how can something be both too dark and too bright at the same time?98.242.242.121 03:30, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, that was me... Sorry, forgot to log in! =) <font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 15:49, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think (I mean think) what Quailflight means is that the dark areas are too dark and the bright areas are too bright, catch my drift? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 16:13, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I understand, but if not... well, it's always fixable. =) Is this any better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:26, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd say it looks pretty good. =^.^= ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 13:23, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks neon, desaturate it some more. And I can hardly see the ear pink, lighten it some Night  Fall 21:16, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Needs to be desaturated, and shading needs to be darker.-- Dawny  19:00, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:48, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Why is she bright red? Ginger is orange, she should be orange. Any shade of orange, and blur alot more. Spirit cloud48  20:58, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

How is that red? That looks orange to me ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:16, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

R-E-D Spirit  cloud48  21:20, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, now I know how to spell red. And acutally real ginger is pale orange. Just saying! :) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:47, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Im sorry then, you must be color blind. It is most definitly red. Sorry Hollytail about the arguing! Some people cant see that its red; change to ginger, and blur. Spirit cloud48  23:05, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's not red on my computer, it's dark orange. I would suggest lightening it though. Her description isn't dark ginger. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  23:09, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

OK, 1: do I just lighten it or change the color entirely? And 2:please be nice, Spiritcloud48, because that's probably offensive to anyone who is colorblind, and also because your monitor could be displaying it differently on your computer, because you seem to be the only person who thinks it's bright red.<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 02:27, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lightening it will work unless you just want to start over. The earpink also needs some work. Perhaps take the color from a nother ginger cat of a similiar color and make it a bigger. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  02:36, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

-_- Just for the record I'm not color blind. But you could check Buzzardstar for the earpink. He's a ginger also. :) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:53, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Probably not Buzzardstar, one of the reasons I nominated him for tweak week is because I think his ear pink is way too hot pink. Night Fall 07:48, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well then you've got me. XD I guess you should look for a ginger cat for examples. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 17:30, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

I made it a lighter orange, is this shade any better? As for the earpink color, i tried to make that lighter, too...<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 03:17, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, it still looks kind of neon.... try desaturating it or something.... Tawny SMEASH 11:34, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the front of the haunch and to the tail. Icefall★ Talk 13:47, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

The tail already had shading, but I darkened it a little bit. Is this better? Also, I'm leaving at, like, four a.m. and won't be back til August........<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 18:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if we can let you keep an image for a month. You still need to add shading to the front of the haunch. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  01:16, June 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * No way can we leave this here for a month with no hope of it being touched... but what I'm going to suggest is that we call this 'withdrawn' and archive it for now, but allow Hollytail to keep it in her projects until she returns; everyone is entitled to a holiday and sometimes we have little choice in the matter. Ultimately it's up to you though, Bramble. -- Sandy star 14:52, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Stonetooth (D)~For approval


Okay now I look at this I can now see some major changes but here he is improvements please?

Edit how do you change the pxl on it so I can get it 127x155 pxl I'm not sure if its my computer or not...

Oh yeah thisis the biggest size I could get him....:)Wildear~101:) 13:12, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

First,he's a tabby, second, sorry, but it's over the limit.<span style="Font-family:AR Cena;Background:#567890;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raidus:0.20em; color:darkblue">Gol den <span style="Font-family:AR Cena;Background:#567890;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raidus:0.20em; color:darkblue">thorn Epic! 14:00, June 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * For future reference Wildear, remember to sign with 4 ~ and to get a bigger picture of the blank you have to right click the blanks and select open in new window or new tab. That way you'll have the full size of the blank. With the galleries installed, it takes away the feature of copying the direct size of the image. Stated before this is over the limit so this will have to be declined.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 18:44, June 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok sorry I thought this might've been ok but I must've counted it wrong...yeah I realised my computer must be wrong in a way I'll take your advice to heart Shimmerpool.:)Wildear~101:) 21:27, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Wildear; this can stay here as two images were just approved and there is now room. But for future reference, please count more carefully. Do what Shimmer said and redo the image in the full-sized blank and make him a tabby cat. Also, please put a link in your signature by typing Wildear~101 into your preferences. --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 00:20, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks Bramble I'll get it reuploaded for tomorrow:)Wildear~101:) 18:26, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED~ Better? It was what I could at short notice I got art project so I fitted it in anyways!:)Wildear~101:) 19:59, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

It's not a bad tabby but it needs to look more like his other images here. Also make the earpink more triangular. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:01, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby markings need to be bigger like his other images, and make the earpink more pinkish and blur it some more. Dawnleaf Chickon Thursday!!!!! 14:11, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded~Ear pink made more triangular thickened stripes and blurred some more also add some more colour on his haunches anything else?:)Wildear~101:) 19:49, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

He has to many stripes and his color is off. Try taking the color from this--->. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:11, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED~Gave him less stripes and gave him a more brownish grey affect licke his elder image. Like Ash said...anything elses? :)Wildear~101:) 16:18, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby stripes need to strech out father like this: Hope that helps!. Dawnleaf. Deputy of SnowClan  01:47, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Okey dokey I'll get it done for saturday as I am busy a few days:)Wildear~101:) 21:11, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Make sure the stripes don't over lap the line art. Fix the eye and darken the ear pink-- Night s h i n e   R  01:36, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

He still looks closer to gray to me than gray-brownish like or whatever he is. I think lightening him should do or unsaturating.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 20:14, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay made him look more the colour he is made sure the lines didn't overlap fixed the eye and darkened ear pink. So anything else? :)Wildear~101:) 13:38, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

The eye still isn't correct. Look at my tutorial to see what the eye should look like-- Night s h i n e   R  23:43, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Dawn leaf The Epicness Of This Epic Signature! 14:30, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, darken the stripes and blur the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 20:41, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Also add a pupil in the eye. Icefall Icy Winds 20:41, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I've sttarted already I'll put it up tomorrow Wildear~101  17:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken/blur the shading-- Dark hallows 23:05, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I have done it just have virus on computerso when thats cleared up it will be on sorry its just my time on the computer will be restricted else... Wildear~101 18:49, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Here he is re-uploaded blurred ear darkened stripes re did the eye blurred shading anything else? (btw this took a while to upload my computer froze so..) Wildear~101 15:10, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

The eye looks kindda funny, and blur the shading. Dawn leaf The Epicness Of This Epic Signature! 17:18, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

You covered some of the lineart on the back, haunch, and chest. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  18:44, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are to thick, make them smaller. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:khaki; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">☼ Şũήמy ☼ 22:10, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the face, paws, and tail. Blur it, too. I agree with Sunspirit, make the stripes smaller. Icefall★ Talk 13:44, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I will get it uploaded soon just getting rid of viruses on computer then it will be up and ready oh yeah I'll make the stripes smaller but I'm a bit worried they might be too small... Wildear~101 20:05, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Whiskers up for aproval (again)
Okay, I tried to make it better, here it is I ran the burn tool along some more-as you told me too. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 17:01, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading looks nice. Try making the ear pink a little bigger and darkening it up a bit, like on Reedwhisker or Breezepelt. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 18:25, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot. I don't really see any-- Night s h i n e   R  23:29, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I darkened the shading a little, and I darkened the ear-pink. Better? Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 16:33, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

The whole thing still needs to be darkened. It looks like a dark gray cat on my computer. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:17, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's dark-grey on my computer, I think you should darken it. :<font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki">Sun <font color="#FFCC33" style="background:Khaki">spirit <font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki"> ☮ 09:08, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah darken it so it looks more black. <font color="#009900">Mo <font color="#00FF00">onp <font color="#009900">elt <font color="#00FF00">TM 18:03, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Should I run the burn tool along it or use another colour comepletely? Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 16:24, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

The burn tool should work. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  16:33, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the entire image and darken the shading/add shading. Icefall Icy Winds 22:22, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

 Reupladed -I used the burn tool a little more. Anything else I can do to improve? Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 19:19, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken it more. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  22:26, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading.

Please work on this or it will be declined Night  Fall 04:27, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded -I burned it some more, but I think it was better before. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 18:39, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Which one are we supposed to look at? Which ever one it still needs to be darkened. The first one looks dark gray and the second one looks silver. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  18:49, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Whiskers is black, Clarrissa, not gray. You need to really darken it. Look at Blackclaw, Breezepelt, or Nightcloud for help Night  Fall 06:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Both of the images need to be darkened. Icefall★ Talk 14:24, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, they need to be more like #111111 (just around that range) in color. They're both nice, but they're too light. Another cat to look at would be Crowfeather's kit image. He's not "black", more like a smoky black, so that might be more ideal for you. Holly dapple  18:59, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

No, like I said above, just run the burn tool over it. On pixlr, there's no way to search for the hex code of a color that I know of Night  Fall 00:30, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, there is. You click on those color boxes, and the "colorpicker" window pops up. Near the bottom, on the right below the "L:" text box is th place where you can input a color. Though if Clarrissa wants to, she can run the burn tool over it. What I meant when I said to make it more like #111111 is to make it more of that color, either using that hue or running it over the burn tool to make it more of that color. Sorry if I didn't make that clear enough, but I meant to make it more like #111111. She doesn't have to change the whole color if she doesn't want to. :) Holly  dapple  02:50, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't know that xD But seriously, just darken it. All you have to do is run the burn tool over it a lot Night  Fall 20:48, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try to re-do it then. Whenever I burn it, it just go's lighter. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 08:58, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Whitethroat (R) - For Approval
Well, I'm not sure how this went. Shruggy talk 07:07, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's good, except you'll notice that there's a black flick on the white chest, maybe lighten the ear pink a bit, but otherwise good! SunspiritThe Way the Breeze Whispers… 07:15, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

The Black flick, is part of the line art. ;) Shruggy talk 08:56, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oh Sorry! Laughs SunspiritThe Way the Breeze Whispers… 08:58, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Might just be me Shruggy, but did you pick pure black for the colour? It needs to be light black, dark grey. I can't see the lineart. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  11:47, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

No, he didn't. This is well done Shruggy. Blur the white, and lighten the pelt color a tad. Icefall Icy Winds 12:06, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I also added shading to the back ear. :) Shruggy talk 13:55, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I was on a school comp and it looked really black, it dosen't now. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  15:36, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 20:21, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Shruggy talk 08:29, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Looks Great Shruggy! I've been looking at it, couldn't find anything that bad! :<font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki">Sun <font color="#FFCC33" style="background:Khaki">spirit <font color="#FFFF33" style="background:Khaki"> ☮ 08:35, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Is it possible for you to smudge the white more? Like a fade in? And I think it would look a tiny bit better it there was some shading on the white part on the chest. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 17:46, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

The white on the chest seems awfully straight, I agree with Warrior, just use the smudge tool and then blur to make it. . . um. . . rounder. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   03:11, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any better? Shruggy talk 11:13, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

The tail looks very dark. Make the pupil in the eye a bit smaller. Blur the white transitions-- Night s h i n e   R  23:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Icefall Icy Winds 21:37, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Great! Just add some more highlights. S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 23:02, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are acually optional, you don't have to add them if you don't want too. Night Fall 00:59, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The Pupil is as small as it can be. and I blured the ear pink and white. Shruggy talk 16:48, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Can you lighten the whole thing just a tiny bit. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:37, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded better? Shruggy talk 10:16, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken/add some shading to his back, tail, and the legs farthest from us Night  Fall 04:22, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded It did have some, but I made it darker anyway. Shruggy talk 09:37, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more. Icefall Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, I think the shading looks fine. Blur the white transition on the paws Night  Fall 04:29, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the chest more. Quailflight 05:21, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Pineclaw (W)- Withdrawn By User
I made a re-do. Accidentally erased old message here XD Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  21:16, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Not bad. His earpink is a bit lopsided and his eye is a bit neon. Fix those and maybe add/brighten highlights or shorten the shading. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  14:14, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed earpink, dampened eye. Brightened highlights and blurred well. Comments? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  14:22, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger or shorten the shading again. Make the ear pink bigger and darken it-- Night s h i n e   R  16:13, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, The one on the left is the same one, just I edited it. The one on the right is a whole new one. Which one is best and I should keep edititng?? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  17:33, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Both are nice, but the one on the right looks more normal to me. On the muzzle, if you choose the one on the right, the highlights need to be brightened, and the haunch and shoulder highlights need blurring. The shading on his back could be darkened as well. Holly dapple  19:29, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hope it looks good! First time I actually did highlights like that... Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  21:16, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

They look good for your first time. Just blur them some more. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  01:07, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlithgts and back shading more. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   03:10, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights and blur. Blur the shading more. Icefall Icy Winds 22:16, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I might be mistaken but I thought his description said he had a torn ear. Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 01:29, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It does now but it didn't always. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  12:52, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:36, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ugh Sorry. Pixlr hasn't been working, but it's all fixed :D I'll get right onto it! >:3 Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  14:58, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Would you like me to take over Birchy? I'm finding it really hard to get an image done and I can finish this for you. :3 Fawny  Keep on Smiling :D 10:43, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Would you Fawny? Whenever I type in pixlr, it judt goes black or white. Can you continue please? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  14:54, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

O'll start a new section. :) So, I'm taking over, you withdrawing it? I've put that. :3 Fawny  Keep on Smiling :D 15:39, June 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * You do not need to start a new section. Just change the title of this back to 'For Approval' and continue from where Birchy left off, Fawny. It saves us archiving this and then having another section for what is essentially the same image. -- Sandy star 09:55, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Wetfoot (A) - For Approval


I put this up for approval again. I really hope it's under the limit. So anyways, here's my first Charart. Comments? I am also really clumsy when it comes to counting things. I counted all the images up for approval five times and I got 34. If I missed one, please don't get angry! It's just that have terrible counting skills when there are a lot of things.Cherryfur123 17:55, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's really good, it's under the limit if you don't count the discussions. Anyways, he looks fine. Lighten the stripes, blur the shading and highlights, fill in the white pixels on the tail, make the ear pink bigger, and add a pupil into the eye. He's very good for your first try! Icefall Icy Winds 01:00, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

De-thumbed it. It's great for your first try. Just do the things that Icefall said. S u n s p i r i t Gotta Lo ve New leaf 05:13, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are very bright. Darken them a lot and blur the shading. The ear pink should be centered in the ear, so move it to the right more. There are a few light coloured stripes on the end of the tail. Add more stripes lower down on his forearms.-- Night s h i n e   R  05:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Better? Cherryfur123 12:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I added the pupil in the eye. Cherryfur123 19:11, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I took it out of thumbnail for you. Darken the highlights more and add a few more stripes onto the haunch-- Night s h i n e   R  21:14, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I darkened the highlights and added some more stripes. Nightshine, thanks for taking it out of thumbnail for me. Can someone tell me how so I could do it myself and not trouble anyone else to do it? Cherryfur123 00:47, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

When you edit the page, click modify and then select Full Size. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   01:21, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the tail stripes more and darken the highlights a bit more-- Night s h i n e   R  21:07, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Better? Cherryfur123 21:44, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 22:09, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Blurred ear pink and darkened shading. Anything else? Cherryfur123 11:49, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading a little and add some to to the ear farthest from us. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Thickened the shading and added some to the ear. What else? Cherryfur123 I'm under your control, as long as you give me candy! 00:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC) 21:40, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Definitely need less bluring, also make stripes a lot more visible. You should try looking here for help on creating a charart. <font color="#50c878">Spirit <font color="#6495ed">cloud <font color="#9966cc">48 03:43, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks a tad dark. Dawny  19:04, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I made the stripes more visible and lightened the shading but I think I just messed up the whole thing... Cherryfur123 I'm under your control, as long as you give me candy! 00:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC) 19:17, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

No you didn't it's coming along pretty well :) Darken the stripes on his back, and blur the stripes on his chest and legs Night  Fall 04:23, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Done. Anything else? Cherryfur123 I'm under your control, as long as you give me candy! 00:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC) 17:41, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Some of the stripes look a little scratchy; perhaps blend them a little more. -- Sandy star 14:25, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

By blend, do you mean blur it more or something else? Cherryfur123 I'm not sweating, I'm melting! 18:27, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Better? Cherryfur123 I'm not sweating, I'm melting! 11:39, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the stripes on the legs, and blur the stripes on the tail Night  Fall 04:31, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the shading a little thin. Icefall★ Talk 13:41, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I thickened the stripes on the legs and blurred the stripes on the tail, and I tried to make the shading thin, but if I failed, just let me know and I'll try to do it better :) Anything else? Cherryfur123  I'm not sweating, I'm melting! 17:37, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

The image looks to bumpy. Smooth out the pixels more in between the stripes and lighten the shading--  Night s h i n e    ~  01:22, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Better? Cherryfur123 I'm not sweating, I'm melting! 11:55, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else!? <font color="Gold" style="background:Green">Cherryfur123 Home + work should never be together! 21:09, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnyspots (E) - For Approval


There are several discussions so this should be under the limit. Anywho, here is my first elder for PCA. An epic fail, if you ask me. My little depression is meddling with my art skills. =( lol Mo    us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   01:50, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Thicken the stripes and darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 02:06, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

i sorta think the fur at the ear should be stickin up more rather than flat...ish so maybe fix that, other than the tufty ears great job x3bracken- 02:43, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, nice tabby stripes, Mousetalon! Could you make the ear pink a little more triangular? I can hardly see your highlights, so brighten them a bit, and blur the shading on the back and darken all shading, though not too much, particularly near the base of his tail, his forepaws, and under his chin. Good job! Holly dapple  04:51, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''The blank didn't give me room to change the ears. Okay, anything else? Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   17:12, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

This looks really good, Mouse. Blur the shading and highlights some. $  Ice thr oat   %  Exploring  through the   galaxies... 22:08, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred and added some texture to the fur. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   23:17, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes should be lighter. Because on the deputy image, the stripes are gray, here, the stripes are black. I also think they should be thickened more. Icefall Icy Winds 23:19, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I lightened the whole thing. I think, personally, that the stripes are fine. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   15:05, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks too light now. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:21, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   22:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit and lighten the stripes a bit. The ear tufts don't look right. Thicken the line art more. Lighten his muzzle-- Night s h i n e   R  22:13, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes won't lighten. Pixlr hates me. =( (I'll try and reupload soon!) ❦✌Mo    us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   04:33, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Can someone lighten the stripes for me? Pixlr is all icky for me right now. And the lineart on the ear tufts is the same thickness as on his deputy image. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   14:21, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth out the ear pink. It looks too bumpy. Blur it. Icefall★ Talk 14:25, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Pikepaw - For Approval


There were lots of convo's so this should be under the limit! :) 1st charart to! Raffyjack123 17:58, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

De-thumbed it. Make it a png.It's really nice!  Z  Nightsong 18:00, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Urm...it's not letting me :( Can someone tell me why?? I'm a bit new to this...1st Charart!!!! Raffyjack123 18:09, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks Bramble! I made the highlights better to! anything else??? Raffyjack123 22:24, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

When you add the image onto the page, make sure to take out the |thumb in the coding, or else it will show in a gray box, or thumbnail, which we don't want. Other than that this is very well done. I don't see anything wrong with it. Nice job. <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 22:35, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok...sorry Raffyjack123 19:59, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else??? Raffyjack123 18:25, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Relax, it's only been a day. People will comment when they get time. Anyways, make the ear pink bigger and darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 19:06, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Wait...I'm sorry but I know Moontail reserved this first. Sorry.--<font color="Orange">Sky <font color="Orange">wish <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 04:15, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Darkened shading and added ear-pink :) Any other improvements that could be done???

Blur the ear pink, and make it a bit smaller Night  Fall 04:24, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Really, Moontail rocks reserved this first. I'm sorry, just defending my friend.<font color="Orange">Sky <font color="Orange">wish <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 04:10, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

So...id it going to be deleted :'( It's my 1st charat :( Raffyjack123 00:42, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

, I'm sorry...Maybe you can use it for another cat? <font color="Orange">Sky <font color="Orange">wish <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 04:03, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Moontail may have reserved it first but it's no longer on the current projects list. My guess is that her two weeks was up so Raffyjack may keep this. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  14:54, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah never mind.<font color="Orange">Sky <font color="Orange">wish <font color="Turquoise"> I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 01:09, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller and more reddish.--  Night s h i n e    ~  18:39, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think the earpink color is fine ,but it does need to be smaller. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  19:26, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I think it should be a tad darker and smaller. ♥Ice shine★  12:37, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Raggedstar (D) - For Approval
Heeeeeres Raggedstar! This is under the limit, so coments? Ringo  Starr  13:00, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't he already have a deputy image? Or is this for Tweak Week?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 13:03, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

This was never approved, and it was my image (this one) thats on his article. I have no idea how it got there. Ringo  Starr  13:04, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It was a coding issue which I have fixed. -- Sandy star 13:06, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. I see.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 13:08, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Now that that issue been cleared up, any comments? Ringo  Starr  19:22, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a tiny bit bigger. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:10, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken/add the shading, I can't see it very well. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 22:55, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded.  Ringo  Starr'''  16:16, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the back stripes. Icefall Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get to that, but for some odd reson I can't edit wikia on my home computer. Might only be able to update every friday or so. Is that alright? Influx Lennon -  Ringo's Wife  19:13, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

As long as you update it than yes. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  20:06, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Horray! I can edit again! (hopefully). '''Reuploaded.  Influx Lennon -  Ringo's Wife'''  01:24, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the head Night  Fall 04:32, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the tail stripes. Icefall★ Talk 13:38, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to say this to you all, but I wil not be able to work on this from today all the way to the 12th. Is that all right? Influx Lennon -  Ringo's Wife  12:31, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Songbird (Q) - For Approval


This is my first Charart so I really like it! But please feel free to criticize! If you didn't know the sun is coming from the right side. Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 21:12, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

You forgot to sign. Get rid of the ear pink on her right ear. This is very good! You need to change the file name to Songbird.queen.png-- Night s h i n e   R  21:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

This is beautiful, very nice job. Only thing I see is to maybe shade the belly, because that would be sheltered from the sun, and blur the ear pink well. Also, please remember to sign by typing four tildes (~) at the end of your message so we know who posted. --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 21:16, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

There is a gray pixel in the eye farther away from us  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 21:37, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED: I did what you asked, now is there anything else? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 21:43, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Not that I can see. Great job. --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 22:11, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:12, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten it more. Make the ear pink a bit smaller and darken the nose pink-- Night s h i n e   R  22:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I make the ear pink smaller, lightened it up, and darkened the nose. Any more? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:23, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you know any lighter and it starts to look golden instead of brown. Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:24, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

De-saturate it first, then lighten it a bit with the dodge tool-- Night s h i n e   R  22:32, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but how do I do that? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:37, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Use the saturate/de-saturate tool, it looks like a sponge. 雨 晶須  22:42, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see that tool here. What program do you use? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:48, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like a sponge on Pixlr. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#7a009a">Here comesSUMMER!   22:52, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense because I use Gimp for this, and as far as I know there isn't a tool like that there. Should I still do that? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 22:55, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

In GIMP, select the image. Go to Colours>Hue Saturation then move the saturation rectangle to the left until it is a good brown. Then use the dodge tool to make it a bit lighter-- Night s h i n e   R  23:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I thought you used Pixlr. Also, the ear pink is a bit too big and it should be more reddish. But it looks great otherwise! 雨 晶須  23:20, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thats okay, you couldn't have known anyways! :) I'm gonna start working on the ear but I might have supper first. Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 23:33, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I redded the ears and shortened them, how do they look? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 00:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, lighten the pelt and darken the shading. Icefall Icy Winds 00:09, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Is this enough? Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 00:17, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading around the belly area. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#00ff11">Here comesSUMMER!   00:55, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I think I did good with the shading now. Dappleclaw ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLAODED: I worked on what you said Nightshine, and I'll start on what you said Ashshadow. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Was that enough or do I need to still blur? And also please specify spots that would need blurring. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:41, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

If no specific area is specified than that means all of it. I can't really see the shading or highlights now. Darken them a bit. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:45, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Is it good now or did I go a bit over the top? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 22:14, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't look brown enough. Darken it a tiny bit-- Night s h i n e   R  22:17, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Darker? Or is this good? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 22:33, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Songbird previously have a charart? It's very good by the way. I love the shading! :) ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 00:30, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Icestorm had it up for approval a while ago, but she withdrew it. This is lovely, Dappleclaw :) Define the ear pink more though, it's kind of hard to make out Night  Fall 00:41, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! And I saw it on Nightfall's page for pages that needed charart and no one was doin this one so I assumed it was okay. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:41, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I defined the ear more, hopefully it isn't too bright. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:48, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:23, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Or is it ready for approval? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:06, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more-- Night s h i n e   R  01:26, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Like this or more? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:40, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 22:35, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Or is it ready for approval? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:38, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's only been one day, wait at least four or five before asking for comments :) As for the image, blur the shading a lot on the face and neck, and blur the white transiton on the paws Night  Fall 05:44, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Sorry, I was just a little impatient. :/ ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 14:12, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

You still need to blur the highlights more. River star Leader Of StormClan 03:26, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and the nose color looks as if it is purple. Make it red. Icefall Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I made the nose redder, shrunk the ear pink, and blurred the highlights again. Anything else? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:39, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Add some stripes to her face. And then there are some stripes near her rump that seem to have been cut off Night  Fall 01:06, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I added stripes to her face, and re-defined the stripes on her hind leg and back. How does it look? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:44, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the stripes on her cheeks Night  Fall 07:42, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Wow that was quick! I darkened the stripes on her cheeks. Anything else? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 14:28, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think you accidently uploaded the original version over the new one Night  Fall 04:33, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Really? Well when I tried uploading it again it said it was a duplicate. And that was the newest version. Strange. :/ ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 13:27, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think I might need to redo this. Because I can't delete the backround. Unless someone else can, I'm pretty stuck. (And yes I know about the select-by-color-then-control-plus-x-method, that dosen't work for me) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 14:09, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I added transparency for you--  Night s h i n e    ~  01:20, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! ^.^ ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:05, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the paw stripes. Extend the white paw further, a bit. Darken the tail stripes, and the stripes that are near the tail area need to be sharpened. Icefall★ Talk 14:27, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Quick question (Yes, I'm done what you asked Icefall) when I upload from gimp do I make the destination file a .png or a .xcf? Because when I choose .png theres an error and when I choose .xcf it uploads but only shows a blank page. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 16:32, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

You should always go with a .png format; try saving the file to your computer as a png format, then uploading that image on here instead of the .xcf file. That way you won't have to change the destination file's format. <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 19:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Thanks! I did that and it worked! Did I darken the paw and tails stripes and sharpen the tail area stripes enough? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:55, June 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * The whole thing looks a little pixely now... this will sound backwards given that you were asked to sharpen the stripes, but I think define them may have been a better way of putting it. Now you need to get the blur tool and run it over some of the pixelated areas trying not to blur the stripes again too much. Also the ear pink needs to be more triangular. -- Sandy star 14:56, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I made the ear more trianglular and went over with the blur tool, if it needs more work let me know. (That's me but I forgot to sign) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:13, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ivytail (A) - For Approval


Well, this is my first Charart. I hope this is good, but it probably will be declined in the first 2 suggestions. (Does it matter that I used Photoshop instead of GIMP? I don't have GIMP) Totallytawnypelt99 00:37, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

It will not be declined if we don't like it. But this is over the limit, however it is only one over so it should bve OK soon. First off, it needs to be taken out of thumbnail (which I'll do). Second, the white on the chest needs blurring and it needs to look more like- Mo   us  et  al  on   !! <font color="#00ff11">Here comesSUMMER!   00:42, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is very nice :) But on her midriff, I'd darken the white, it looks brighter compared to the white on her chest Night  Fall 02:46, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say blur a bit more by her muzzle, and brighten the brown, to make it more like the queen pic above. Thats all I can think of now! ^.^ Dappleclaw Go ShadowClan! 00:51, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I brightened the patches a bit and darkened the fur a bit. If the patches need to be brighter, just let me know. I also blurred the white as much as I could. Please tell me other improvements to put on her. Totallytawnypelt (TT) 00:58, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mousetalon, this isn't over the limit. Lighten the patches more. Make the ear pink more reddish-- Night s h i n e   R  01:02, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know about now but when it was first posted it was number 33. And I agree with Nightshine. Dappleclaw ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:06, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the patches and smudge them. Darken the shading and blur the white stomach. Icefall Icy Winds 19:05, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Some color went out of the lineart on her left front arm. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  19:29, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I brightened the patches, which are starting to kill me, but I won't give up! I made the ear more reddish (I think it was different because I was referring to the warrior picture instead of the queen, but hey, it's my first charart.) I also found out what blurring the white meant (i think) and did it. I also erased the extra coloring in front of her left arm (you're welcome, Ashshadow :D ). More comments? Please, please, more comments.Totallytawnypelt (TT) 21:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if it is different for the warrior image but the queen image has smaller patches. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:37, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I took Dappleclaw's advice and made the patches longer. Comments?68.191.43.114 23:23, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks nice, but maybe add more color into the patches, and also the haunces need more shading I think. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 23:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I added shading on the haunches and added more color (I even tried to vary it ^.^) Comments, Suggestions? Totallytawnypelt (TT) 00:04, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say it looks nice! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:05, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

So should it be approved? †ø†åll¥†åwn¥p£l† 19:38, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

One thing about the style: The queen's patches look more like streaks while yours are patches. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:14, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and smudge the patches. Icefall Icy Winds 21:27, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to make the patches look more like streaks, and I blurred the patches. It's hard to do it though, because when I save it as a PNG, it merges all the layers together. It frustrates me.... to ta  ll  yta  wny  pelt

This is very good :) but, shouldn't she have darker patches along with her cream patches on her fur? Dawn leaf The Epicness Of This Epic Signature! 17:15, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I added darker patches. Comments, Questions, Suggestions? T o  tally  ta  wny  p  elt  99 Greenleaf Awaits!!!

Smudge and blur the patches.  Dawny  19:06, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Smudged/Blurred patches. It's difficult because when you blur/smudge, it takes away the color, and then when you save it as a PNG it merges the layers. But I've learned. You save it as a PNG to upload and a PSD or JPEG or whatever GIMP uses, but you use the PSD to work and PNG to upload. (a miny lesson by me!) T o  tally  ta  wny  p  elt  99 Greenleaf Awaits!!!

Make the ear pink a bit bigger. River star Leader Of StormClan 03:28, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Made ear pink bigger T  o  tally  ta  wny  p  elt  99 Greenleaf Awaits!!! 10:46, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the patches smaller, and add some more. Icefall Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: made patches as small as I could, added a few more in. Ivypaw's really starting to frustrate me. I'm a master at kittypets. Tawny SMEASH 14:23, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Its really good Tawny :) Just make the dark cream patches more visible. Dawny  04:39, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the white front paws Icefall★  Talk 14:28, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (MCA) for approval
My first charart for PCA. Comments? <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 14:34, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading along the back a bit. Dawn leaf The Epicness Of This Epic Signature! 17:28, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

The haunch needs some shading (near front legs) and her chest needs some shading as well (depending on where the light source is) and her scars are a little too straight, perhaps make them curve a little. But she's great for your first charart! 雨 晶須  01:42, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 13:03, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Much better, but just blur the shading on the haunch a little bit. Dawn leaf The Epicness Of This Epic Signature! 17:12, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

You need to blur the burn shading a bit.  ☼ S u n s p i r i t ☼ 

   ß     20:55, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 12:38, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

A little more. Hopefully 3rd times the charm! ;) Dawny  18:52, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''<font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 18:17, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading Icefall  Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit pinker (like the color on the mc image) and center it in the ear.  I c e  t h r  o a t  $  Puttin' on my shades   $ 04:00, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? <font color="purple" style="background:white">The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 16:22, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and add some shading to the herbs Night  Fall 04:34, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the tail. Icefall★ Talk 13:36, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I can't blur the shading more. Better? <font color="purple" style="background:white"> The rain breaths "I'm not laughing at you. I just think we'd look stupid with wings." 16:17, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make it a bit thinner ♥Ice  shine★  12:35, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Runningwind (Ki) for approval
I'm really sorry about my last charart. Real life got in the way and I forgot all about it. But anyway, thre are four discussions, so here's Runningwind. Comments?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  17:26, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

It need to look like his other images  Z  Nightsong  17:40, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Try to be more clear when commenting on images, Snickers. Tell her what needs to be improved instead of just telling her it needs to look like his other images. Shafgirl, first of all, no problem :) Second, I would make the stripes thinner, and put some smaller stripes in between the longer ones Night  Fall 18:01, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink maybe, and darken the shading. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 23:28, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Dappleclaw mostly, maybe add stripes like they're coming from his stomach like his apprentice and warrior picture. Also, kind of make the stripes thinner as they get closer to the stomach. to ta  ll  yta  wny  pelt

Sorry Night, Shaf. I had to log off right after that. I meant what Nightfall said and it needs a stripe through his eye.  Z  Nightsong 10:24, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Also blur the highlight on his stomach

Make the earpink more noticable. Make the stripes a little thinner. Frostheart ♥ [[User talk:Frostheart♥ 16:41, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I failed on the stripes. :P--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  21:33, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think they look pretty good :) Blur the shading on his paws, and make the stripe on his forehead thinner Night  Fall 04:27, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  15:45, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and blur it. Icefall Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Instead of putting one big stripe on his forehead, you should put two horizontal stripes like his other pics. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:58, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  00:15, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading Night  Fall 04:35, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Icefall★ Talk 13:32, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the tail stripes more thiner and define them. Icefall★ Talk 14:31, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:51, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Buzzardstar (A) - For Approval
Not much to say about him. Comments?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:55, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really think of anything right now, off the top of my head. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 01:02, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say to blur the highlights more. Good! T o  tally  ta  wny  p  elt  99 Greenleaf Awaits!!!

Blur the ear pink somemore. Dawny  19:00, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink, and blur the shading. Ice fall  Icy Winds 18:58, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: If needed, could someone blur the shading in GIMP? Pixlr fails. XP I fixed the earpink though. Sun flight   Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  22:31, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

I see no problem in that. In fact I use gimp for charart. :) ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 22:37, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well acually, I don't think you should ask other people to help you with your charart. Pixlr actually has a pretty good blurring tool if you get used to it. (I use pixlr myself, and I find that it's acually pretty effective) Night  Fall 04:36, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry. I'll blur it more. Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   18:54, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I've thought about it, and I've realized that I don't have the time nor the patience to work on this image. :( May I withdraw this? Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   01:31, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Why not let someone take over? There really isn't that much else that needs to be done, and it's really good :) Night  Fall 06:39, June 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you are agreeable to the suggestion, Moonflight, I'll finish this up for you as I currently have no image up for approval. -- Sandy star 10:08, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Of course you may, Sandy. :) I'll change the reservation table. You may proceed. Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   18:29, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Briarlight Alt A -- For Approval
Well, she broke her spine as an apprentice. Comments? •Maple fern•  17:20, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink, I can barely see it. River star Leader Of StormClan 17:25, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Um there is no Earpink add some  Birdstar  To the world I am one cat, but to Darkstar I am the world 17:30, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Above her hind leg there is some brown that needs to be blurred more. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 17:55, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights Cherryfur123  I'm not sweating, I'm melting! 18:11, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

The line art for her back legs isn't very smooth. The back paws need to be fixed and ear pink is needed. Other than that this is fine!--  Night s h i n e    ~  20:27, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Make the lineart more smoother, and I would say to make the legs a tad bigger. Add earpink, and there's a big mob of colour between the midriff. Blend that into the pelt. Icefall★ Talk 13:31, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Briarlight is a hard character to draw, she has one of the hardest injuries. But if anything, add an earpink and make the line art a bit more smooth. It kind of looks like her tail is just there, not attached to her body. Tawny SMEASH 17:04, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth out her rump and bring her hind hip forward a bit. But otherwise, very good! :) Also maybe make it look as though her hind paw where resting on the ground.

ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 03:23, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the right leg (her right) and make the tail thinner. The belly is a little slim, perhaps make it more round. The rest of the charart is great though! 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 14:45, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Amberclaw (W)- For Approval


Okay, I asked Honeyfur if I could do Amberclaw and she said yes. I made his eyes amber (I didn't know what color eyes he had). Comments? River star Leader Of StormClan 23:43, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's good, but the earpink looks a little bit weird. Also, the front paw needs some highlights. Frostheart ♥  00:07, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Okay I made the earpink lighter and added a highlight to the front paw. River star Leader Of StormClan 01:10, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

It's a bit difficult to see the shading; darken it some Night  Fall 01:53, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Darkened the shading. Anything else? River star Leader Of StormClan 02:33, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Now the shading is too thin and dark. It needs to be spread out and blurred. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   03:37, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink is to neon. Desaturate it some. Influx Lennon -  Ringo's Wife  11:56, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and add some to the ear not facing us, and add shading to the face. Icefall★ Talk 13:22, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I redid the whole thing, is it any better? River star Leader Of StormClan 16:22, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you on your earpink (everyone does) but it looks like it doesn't really match his pelt color. Maybe if you lighten it to a light pink it would be better, but I'm not so sure, save 2 copys, one of this one and one of the fixed earpink just to be on the safe side. Tawny SMEASH 17:08, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Made it a light pink. River star Leader Of StormClan 17:43, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is good. Darken the shading on the paws, and I think the ear pink should be red. Icefall★ Talk 21:31, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!''' Reuploaded. '''Darkened the shading on the paws and made the ear pink red. River star Leader Of StormClan 22:54, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a tad smaller, this is really good by the way!  Dawny  23:10, June  River star Leader Of StormClan 21:01, June 30, 2010 (UTC)28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Dawny! '''Reuploaded. '''I made the ear pink smaller. Anything else? River star Leader Of StormClan 02:30, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Haha np, just desaturate the ear pink :)  Dawny  03:33, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

How do you desaturate on GIMP? I can't find a tool for it. River star Leader Of StormClan 12:11, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure. You should desaturate it in Pixlr. Icefall★ Talk 14:32, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

You can desaturate on GIMP. I forgot exactly who I learned this from but all you have to do it ckick colors and go to hue saturation. Saturation is at the bottom. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  14:54, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks! Desaturated the ear pink. River star Leader Of StormClan 15:27, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thid is very good, Riverpelt. This may be my computer screen, but he looks a little bright. If he looks neon on other screens, desaturate it. Just rub the sponge over the whole thing. If it looks normal to you, leave it. :)

He looks pretty normal to me, but what do other users think? River star Leader Of StormClan 20:41, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

He looks a bit too bright, just desaturate him some Night  Fall 00:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I desaturated him. River star Leader Of StormClan 01:20, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

He looks very dull now. Saturate him a bit because right now he looks grayish ginger. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  19:13, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''How does he look now? River star Leader Of StormClan 21:01, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I thinks he's almost ready. :) Just lighten the shading a bit and blur it. BTW: That unsigned comment above was from me. :P *MOONY FAIL* Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   23:33, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I lightened the shading and I blurred it as much as it would go. River star Leader Of StormClan 00:34, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

The shading clashes with the pelt now. Darken it some. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  00:41, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Okay I made it darker so that it doesn't clash with the highlights, and not too dark that the highlights look too bright. River star Leader Of StormClan

01:45, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate it and darken the ear pink--  Night s h i n e    ~  18:40, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. River star Leader Of StormClan20:54, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure of how you can fix this but the shading is a redish color. It would look fine if he was more Firestar's color but it looks weird against this pelt color. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  21:05, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think I should redo him, but to have Firestar's pelt color? River star Leader Of StormClan

22:26, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

He doesn't have to have Firestar's pelt color but you need to change the color of the shading. It might be best to redo him. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  22:30, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I redid him again, and he is lighter than before, but I think he looks better than my first one. River star Leader Of StormClan

00:24, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think so too. Darken the earpink some but other than that he's very good. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  00:30, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Ashshadow! '''Reuploaded. '''darkend the ear pink. River star Leader Of StormClan

01:27, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

A random thought
I was thinking for a moment (which seriously, Isn't good for me! XD) why don't we make a page for all the art the artists have messed up on. Like have a gallery of them and explain what they did wrong, and yeah. Just a random thought. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 14:50, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yay for thinking!!! (I never do that). But I don't know. I'm only an apprentice, so I can't decide, but I think it would kind of be insulting. Like showing peoples mess ups and it can be like a shameful feeling for others to have your declined charart on a page dedicated to messed-up art. I hope I didn't make it sound dramatic or something, just my personal opinion on it. Tawny SMEASH17:07, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it could be insulting to other users. I mean, it's their own art, and to just bash about it is rude. Maybe people could purposely do some art with mistakes and post it there. Frostheart ♥  17:23, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I guess I never thought of it like that. Good point. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 17:25, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Tawny is absolutely right on this; it would be degrading and humiliating towards users if their declined art was used and not at all fair. I know that I wouldn't want my first chararts put on a page of declined art. However, I do see the merit in your suggestion; showing users what went wrong and how to avoid it may be a good idea, and perhaps a new take on a tutorial, if the art could be custom made so as not to be personal to any user. (The other issue with this being that all declined art is deleted from the wiki periodically and takes up too much space in terms of unused files to be kept). I'm not entirely sure whether a page like this is a good idea; that's why we have tutorials, and it seems unecessary and a source of more arguments, but I don't know what Bramble thinks on this. -- Sandy star 17:30, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, I think this was misunderstood, I meant like the artists for the warrior books! Like in cats of the clans and stuff! Not the ones doing charart! Sorry about that! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 17:36, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! I see what you mean now. Apologies, I assumed you meant charart. Well, the main issue I see with that is the issue of copyright. The whole point of this project is to make our own images to avoid coyright issues with using the professional artist-made ones. I'm not sure this is a good idea at all. Sorry. -- Sandy star 17:50, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

That's okay.

Here, I'll try and explain the best I can:

1. Everybody (I think) know how sometime's the erin's artist mess up

2. We use our own charart to make our versions of them

3. We put them up and explain how they differ from the cat the erins wrote about, like for Silverstream from cats of the clans we might say she looks too blue. Just an idea, if it isn't accepted I won't get mad. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 17:53, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I do not think this is a very good idea. The images are copyrighted... Icefall★ Talk 21:30, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think that would be considered copyright infringement if we made a page with some of the artwork and pointed out mistakes; it could also be classified as discriminating against the artist who created the images. We could rephrase this idea so it could fit into the trivia sections, because it's a cool idea, just it needs some rough points ironed out. I'll come back to this in a moment when I've had more time to think on it. --<span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#3861DE; ">Bram <span style="font-family:Segoe_Script;color:#000562; ">ble 22:07, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for considering. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 03:03, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Will archive later Night  Fall 05:21, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Rosetail(A)-for approval
Rosetail's apprentice charart! This is my third charart. Hope this goes well! Comments for approval?

ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 03:02, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes need to be lightened a lot. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 04:43, June 29, 2010 (UTC)\

Add/darken the shading, lighten the stripes a lot, and make the ear pink bigger. Icefall★ Talk 14:35, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm on it! :) ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 22:32, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

That look any better? ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 23:07, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Icefall★ Talk 00:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

'kay ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 15:16, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

That better? ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 20:02, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and darken the ear pink. Put your signature next to your message, not underneath it--  Night s h i n e    ~  23:09, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Done ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 14:33, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger. Blur the stripes. Darken the tail stripes--  Night s h i n e    ~  18:41, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth out the stripes, like, blur them, ♥Ice  shine★  12:33, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Foxheart (AD)-for approval
hope you like it (First Real Chartart) Rainear 03:39, June 29, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

Sorry, this will have to be declined, Shimmerpool had him reserved first.  Dawny  03:45, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

No that that users is "Alternative Warrior" mine is "Alternative Deputy" Rainear 03:49, June 29, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

Opps sorry.  Dawny  04:14, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I took him out of thumb nail for you. You should always upload it full size. As for the image, the lineart looks very strange, and it's way too big. What art program do you use? Second, It's not the same color as the deputy image Foxheart already has. This is yellow as apposed to ginger. Third, there's no shading at all Night  Fall 06:15, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks very strange...I would say to layer a deputy image on it. Add shading. The pelt color should be the same as his warrior image. Make the ear pink smaller and darker. Icefall★ Talk 14:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks as if you traced it. Did you? Icefall★ Talk 15:03, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it shows up waaaaaaaaaaaay to big. Like you saved it about three times the normal size of the file. And, it does look like you traced the lineart. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! <font color="#7022ff">It's tooHOT!   15:15, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Also, rename it Foxheart.deputy.alt.png Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   18:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Here:use this and color it in. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 02:46, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Hows this one I added Shading (But if you ask me to blur it I cannot) and I used Paint if you want to know :) -Rainear 19:04, June 30, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

Oops "Blur" the shading not "Blue"

You should use GIMP or Pixlr to do chararts. This is too big. Use this blank:--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine is right. Use one of those programs, and save that blank to your computer. ☽Ice storm★  19:19, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hows this then Rainear 19:22, June 30, 2010 (UTC)Rainear

OOops with a capital O this is the new one

Please use GIMP or Pixlr to add shading. Layer over the line art I gave you onto your image--  Night s h i n e    ~  20:27, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

I Dont have Gimp or Pixlr all I have that works with the template is Paint. Rainear Med-cat of Riverclan

Okay, first, this needs to be bigger. Right-click the image Nightshine gave you, press, 'open into new tab' and then save that blank. Go to pixlr.com, and open the image. Then, you should probably re-do it/layer the lineart over this image. Then, darken the shading, blur it, make the ear pink smaller, darken it, and blur it. Also addd shading to the front of the haunch, tail, and face. ☽Ice storm★  21:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Also, use a tutorial for the eyes. Moon    flight    Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ   23:37, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, you don't have to start a new section when you are redoing it. Instead use the old section you put up, then put the image there. 雨晶須 五六七☯☮ 14:41, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I've merged the two sections. Please continue to edit from here. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  21:11, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I haven't read Bluestar's Prophecy at all but, how is Foxheart described in the alternate version? (Time for a trip to the bookstore xD) Quailflight  05:17, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

lol, yes. In the allegiances of Bluestar's Prophecy, she is mistakenly described as a tom. And, in Battles of the Clans, there is a chapter where Foxheart is a tom throughout the entire thing. But I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be a she-cat, especially after reading Secrets of the Clans. The Clan suspected Foxheart as being the secret mother of Brokentail, so you know xD Night  Fall 05:19, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkheart Alt (MC) For Approval
Comments? Moon Talk 15:08, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Blur the patch on his neck a bit.  Dawny  17:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded How is that? Moon Talk 17:55, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the herbs. They're a bit bright right now. Lighten the ear pink--  Night s h i n e    ~  18:42, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Heavystep (A) - For Approval


I wasn't sure if he should have a twisted leg or not.--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:52, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh this is awsome, though he needs a deformed leg.  Dawny  21:07, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

How should his deformed leg look?--  Night s h i n e    ~  21:23, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and blur the stripes. Icefall★ Talk 21:32, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened ear pink and blurred stripes--  Night s h i n e    ~  22:55, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm I'm not sure, maybe just make his leg a little shorter with a stumpy paw.  Dawny  00:32, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded is this okay?--  Night s h i n e    ~  23:08, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink a bit. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  01:41, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Also make it smaller. ♥Ice shine★  01:44, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded the ear pink on this one is tricky--  Night s h i n e    ~  04:42, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Make it a bit more smaller. ♥Ice shine★  12:30, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstar's Mother (Q)
My other was declined, so I can post this, right? Re-did her as a queen.

XxdovesongXX

It could use a bit more shading. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 05:21, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Was she seen as a queen? Er, blur the stripes, darken the ear pink, and add shading to the tail, haunch, face, and paws. Icefall★ Talk 13:46, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well it was assumed that she was a queen at one point because she is Leaftsar's mother. Looks really good Dovesong! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 14:45, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED How's it look now? I added shading, darkened the ear pink and blurred the stripes. Also, I added a few more stripes to her belly. How do they look? XxdovesongXX 20:04, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and tail stripes. ♥Ice shine★  17:45, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

This doesn't really look like Leafstar. It should--  Night s h i n e    ~  18:06, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine, could you be a little more specific?XxdovesongXX 19:09, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstar's cream and brown are a lot darker. Also Leafstar has cream patches all over her body like on her back and head. You should proabably compare yours to Leafstar and try to make them similar. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 19:18, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstar's mother is said to look just like Leafstar. This isn't very similar to Leafstar--  Night s h i n e    ~  19:32, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine's right, try to make her the same color as Leafstar. Night Fall 20:46, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I can make her the same colours as Leafstar, but I don't recall them ever saying she had patches? Correct me if I'm wrong.XxdovesongXX 22:52, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

It confirms in Firestar's Quest that she's a brown and cream tabby she-cat. Which would mean brown with cream in various places on her body Night  Fall 22:56, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll do that.XxdovesongXX 23:10, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED Okay guys, made her darker with various patches of cream. How's it look now?XxdovesongXX 23:22, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken/define the earpink, and there is a white speck on her tail tip. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:36, July 2, 2010 (UTC)\

RE-UPLOADED Darkened the ear pink, coloured in the white speck. XxdovesongXX 03:06, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good :) Darken the ear that's farthest from us Night  Fall 03:24, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED Okay, I've darkened her other ear.XxdovesongXX 05:19, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the haunch stripes and blur them on the end of the back. ♥Ice shine★  12:29, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkheart (W) - For Approval
Here is Hawkheart. I'm not that proud of him...Anyways, comments? ☽Ice storm★  21:07, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

He's good. Blur the highlights a bit more. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  22:17, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks, Ash! :D blurred highlights. ☽Ice storm★  22:20, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Make the ear pink a bit smaller--  Night s h i n e    ~  22:34, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Night. :D Made ear pink smaller. ♥Ice shine★  23:16, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Mothwing (A) ~ For Approval


I killed it... o.o" (I bet that one of the comments will be to make her more ginger, to lighten the stripes, to lighten the shading, or to darken the ear pink. xD)  Kit ties Rule da WORLD! Mumble sees a kitty!!! 22:13, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lol close. Make her a bit more golden. She looks a bit yellowish at the moment. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  22:16, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Her eyes looks kindda strange.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;DeepPink; background:Lime; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;"> ♥Dawnleaf♥ 03:06, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Thought so too... I'll fix her. ^-^  Kit ties Rule da WORLD! Mumble sees a kitty!!! 13:43, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '*hopes the comparison works right* ''Made her golden and redid her eye. Better? :3

EDIT: The comparison doesn't work with the new naming system. xD  Kit ties Rule da WORLD! Mumble sees a kitty!!! 13:56, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I like! Center the ear pink and blur the tail shading. ♥Ice shine★  16:30, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Saturate the ear pink a tad<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;DeepPink; background:Lime; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;"> ♥Dawnleaf♥ 20:50, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Pouncetail (Alt A) For Approval
Aw, first Rowanclaw, now Pouncetail. Poor guy xP Okay, here's Pouncetail as he (or she) was portrayed in The Sight Night  Fall 20:44, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * sigh* so many alternate images...O.O it's killing me. This is great, just make the ear pink bigger and blur the stripes. ♥Ice  shine★  20:52, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Bird (R) - For Approval
Not much to say here. Comments? -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 22:12, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the belly. I really like the mud on the pelt! Looks cool! ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 22:15, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

The belly shading looks fine to me. I'd say, darken the shading a bit and darken the ear pink. I suggest that you change the nose colour to a dark gray--  Night s h i n e    ~  22:39, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Also, I didn't change her nose color because a. her caveguard image has a pink nose, and b. she's a tabby, so she'd have a pink nose, even though she's grey. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 23:14, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Define the tail stripes/mud streaks ♥Ice  shine★  23:22, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Did the tail stripes, not sure why the mud would need to be defined, though. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 01:34, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

The mud streaks look like brown patches to me. I'd define it. Or maybe it's my computer..... Quailflight 05:12, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

On mine, they don't seem any less blurred than her caveguard image. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 09:09, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink some more ♥Ice  shine★  12:25, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Morningflower (A) ~*~Up for approval
Morningflower as an apprentice; not very happy about the way she came out...anyways comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:black">Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 02:11, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

It looks very good! I suggest adding more brown patches. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 02:20, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Added more patches. <font color="Cyan" style="background:black">Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 03:21, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches more--  Night s h i n e    ~  03:27, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Blurred it.<font color="Cyan" style="background:black">Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 05:23, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. Darken the shading, I cannot see it very well. ♥Ice shine★  15:02, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Darkened the shading. <font color="Cyan" style="background:black">Ðαωηlεαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 19:14, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Center the ear pink a little. <font color="Gold" style="background:Green">Cherryfur123 Home + work should never be together! 21:06, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Thanks! Fixed the ear pink.Anything else? <font color="Cyan" style="background:white">Ðαώήlέαf "I had a dream, and in it somthing eats you!." 21:33, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Add some patches to the tail. ♥Ice shine★  12:22, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Grading Concern
An article is graded based on the main image, correct? But what about images that are not the main image, such as Dappletail's apprentice image? This image is not in place yet, but Dappletail still has silver rank. I understand that it's for only the elder image, since that is her current image. But if all of the chararts are not in place yet, it shouldn't be considered silver, should it? Please think about my concern. Thank you.  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  18:35, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I see your concern but if we're this critical for silver what would the qualifications for gold be. I think the system for silver is fine. This is just my opinion. Ashshadow. StormClan's strongest  19:19, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right, Ashshadow, about gold. But at the same time, the system is a bit confusing.  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  19:24, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

When an article gets its first approved image it becomes silver. When it has been featured and all images are in place it achieves gold grade; at least, that is my understanding of it. Bramble? -- Sandy star 20:52, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

My opinion is that I think the system for silver is fine. ♥Ice shine★  12:21, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt Alternate Kit Version?
I was thinking, shouldn't we have an alternate kit picture for Tawnypelt? She was first described as a pale ginger she cat, wasn't she? Er. . . not so sure if this is the right place to post this, but it's about charart so I figured. . . yeah. I don't know if you guys were already considering it, but if you weren't I think we should! I mean, we had an alternate for Hawkheart just because he was described as flecked gray once so yeah :) XxdovesongXX 06:49, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Since, unlike Hawkheart, she was described consistently as ginger when she was a kit, I'd say yes, she should have one. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 06:51, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that Tawnypelt should have a alternate kit version. ♥Ice shine★  12:20, July 3, 2010 (UTC)