Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Loner Blanks - For Approval


(M) - I did more of a Melonlemon-style with these blanks and I'm pretty happy with the way they turned out. I also made an example (The shading might be in the wrong places though.)



Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

These are great! Give the muzzle a bit more of a stop and the ears look weird... but I really like them. - Darkhallows Lair 22:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

this looks really good Mosswhisker! but since they're loners ,wouldn't the fur be a bit scruffier?-- ☆Darkkeh☆ uh...hi 22:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

For some reason the head looks a bit small to me... but they look great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 23:35, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Mosswhisker... you're amazing at making blanks! There are only a few things that I can say about these. Firstly, the neck looks a bit too thin, almost pinched, maybe you could make it a bit thicker. Also, I think there should be a bit more definition between the neck and the foreleg, it looks a little too smooth to me. These are incredible, though! ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 23:39, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks guys! I'll change them tomorrow, after school. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 00:03, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Okay! I changed the muzzles so they have a stop, fixed the foreleg, and fixed the neck. (All I did was shorten it, and I think that helped.) I also didn't know what was wrong with the ears, but I did make them less pointy. I didn't change the fur because it's pretty scruffy as it is, and Loners wouldn't be a scruffy as Roughes. I didn't change the head size becuase when I inceased in by a mear 2 pixles, it looked waaay to big. I also got rid of the gray lines on the longhaireds. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:35, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

The ears look a little small. Can you make them a bit bigger? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:19, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

The toes on their paws look a little weird... could you change them? -- Rain whisker 09 20:22, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Changed the toes and (even though it's hard to see) widened the ears. I also changed the shape of two of the paws a bit. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:55, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think there great. I just think that the eyes are a little small. Other then that I hope they get approved before long. --Spottedwing 02:05, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know..the eyebrows look awkward?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think the whiskers are a little short. But they're great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 12:05, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'll fix these tomorrow. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:55, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few things - Don't get me wrong - i think that these are good, and I know that you've put a lot of effort into them. I'm just trying to help. -- Dawnfeather talk! 06:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * The legs are all different lengths. Tey get longer and longer towards the right of the image. The front paw which is bent in the action of walking should be shorter than the others, (because it is bent and therefore not at it's full length) but at the mkoment it is too long.
 * The body is slanted downwards (towards the front of the cat) This may look okay as you finish up the image without being adjusted, but you can have a go at making it more evn if you want to.
 * The ears looks to thin. Don't change the height right now, but have a look at the ears. Also, the back one should probably be on the other side. maybe just fiddle around a bit.
 * The muzzle - it just looks weird to me, no offense. Lots of it is out of proportion and place just within that small space. Open up an approved blank and these, and carefully chck the face, moving around the pixels until they look similar-ish.

(M) - I fixed zeh whiskers. I didn't change the eyes because I couldn't get them to look right, and I don't know what you mean by "eyebrows".
 * Thanks Dawn! I'll fix those things tomorrow. (I'm suffering from chronic lazyness right now.) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  21:52, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Lol, sorry Moss. I thought the whiskers were eyes, and the eyes were eyebrows.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:46, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the whiskers should be a bit far apart. That's why they looked like eyes to me. (no offense)–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:28, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the paws and the ears. I'll fix the rest soon. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:12, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like their far rear leg goes through the pelt.*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:48, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't know how to word it, so thank you, Swallowtip. ;) Otherwise, these look great!  Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:19, September 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * The hind legs are kind of overlapping, if you know what I mean...–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:11, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the legs and the whiskers. I can't get the muzzles to look right Dawn; could you maybe make me a diagram? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:05, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - What else do I need to fix besides the muzzles? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Their hind end looks slightly higher than their font; like they're coming down from a hill. Balance those out, and also make the hind paw that's lifted curl slightly outwards, if you know what that means. It'll look more natural. -- Bramble -san  23:03, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Could you move the eyes and whiskers down a few pixels? And maybe make the eyes a little bigger.-- Darkhallows My den 23:45, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

there is a line on their leg hind leg that is driving me nuts.Minnowclaw 01:45, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

The longhairs fur-tufts seem to go a little too far down the legs.-- Darkhallows My den 05:00, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'm going to work on these this weekend. (School has eaten my free time and is using my relaxation as a toothick. >_< ) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  19:34, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - See, I'm not dead! xP I fixed the tufts, moved the eyes and whiskers back a few pixles, and fixed the bodies so they're leveled out (Dawnfeather actually commented on this, and then I completely forgot to fix it, which shows just how much I pay attention. -_-;;; ) I tried to fix the eyes, but then they looked too big. Sorry! Also, that line is the haunch, and I didn't know how to curve the paw back; could you explain that a little more Bramble? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:16, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Well, kind of like this little guy here See how his back paw sort of curves backward, because he just took it off the ground? -- Bramble -san  22:22, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Lovely, mossy. But on the short-hairs, on the back of the paws there no claw like the long-hairs... And there's really something btohering me about the eyes... There really, really small...--Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 18:57, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thank you Bramble; wonderful pic! I fixed the paws. Warrior♥, I should have the changes you mentioned fixed by Thursday. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

The head does look small in proportion to the body. It looks fine in all of the other departments, though. --Sandiwolf 02:24, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - That actually isn't a dewclaw; it's just a tuft of fur. Origonally it was a dewclaw, but then I realized you wouldn't see that on a cat unless you were very close to them, so I changed it to a fur tuft.

As for the eyes, I decided that I would keep trying to fix them until I got them to be bigger. So I opened Pixlr and got it right on my first try this time. O.O Now, the eyes look a little strange when they're not colored in, but I made a colored example of Husker to show you guys what they look like when they're colored in. There are actually two different ways you can do the eyes, but I prefer this style.



Also, I'll fix the heads soon. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 01:37, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I've fixed the heads. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:33, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

The still look a litle off-blanaced; the hind end looks too high up, as if they're tilted forward, and the very back leg looks too high off the ground. Also; on the farthest back legs, I know you're trying to show toes, but the curves look odd; try taking them out. Other than this, I'd say they're ready. -- Bramble -san  22:15, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks Bramble! I will get to these soon (Sunday at the latest) Also, I am going to do Crookedstar as a deputy and the kittypet blanks; first I have to get done with these. So ... yea. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:00, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - All praise weekends! I took out the paw curves and fixed the backs. I didn't change the leg becuase it looked very... awkard when I did. What else should I fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:36, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Birchstar (RC)for approval
My first leader and my first tabby. Comments? --Spottedwing 00:42, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Here are a few things: It mostly just needs shading. The ear pink looks fine, and so does most of the tabby stripes. Otherwise, I think it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:16, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Needs shading. If it's there, I can't see it.
 * The nose pink is too bright, it's more of a hot pink rather than just a pink. Try to lighten it some. But from the pictures I was looking at on Google images, brown cats tend to have either brown or black noses, depending on whether they're multi-colored. Try changing it to just a lighter shade of brown from the color of the fur.

The tabby stipes need to be longer in most cases and more varied. Add shading and blend it well. Lighten the nose pink. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:34, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Redid the image. Made the tabby stripes longer, fixed nose and ear pink, and added shading. Is there anything else? --Spottedwing 02:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Still needs thicker and darker shading. Then blend it for natural transitions. As for the stripes - make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:36, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

What do you meen by regular?--Spottedwing 02:27, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

um... regular. i'll try and think of another way to describe it lol. bear with me. Make the different lengths, shapes and sizes. That would make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:29, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Made the tabby stripes longer and darker. Added more shading. I really don't know what to think of it. Is it better? Worse? --Spottedwing 00:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the tabby stripes a bit more.*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 01:39, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Also, more shading is needed. Thicken it slightly and then blend. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to her as soon as I can. My life has been busy since school started, so I'll try to get to her during the weekend. --Spottedwing 16:14, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thickened the shading and the tabby stripes. --Spottedwing 19:33, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --Spottedwing 17:28, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Your tabby stripes are too few and far between. They also are too thick and they all look alike. Put in some more and vary their length and look; I know warriors are a different pose but you can look at the approved tabbies for reference if there are no leader tabbies approved. Your shading also needs to be increased, slightly thickened, and the transition then needs to be blended thoroughly. -- Bramble -san  23:00, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Redid the tabby stripes. --Spottedwing 01:03, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I like them now.Minnowclaw 01:40, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading and blend it in.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:46, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Added shading on her left side and I blended it in as much as I could. How does she look? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:49, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - She needs some shading under her chin. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:39, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 18:53, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Move it up so it's right against the chin line. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't really liking the neck shading, so I blended it in more. How does she look? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:37, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading.Minnowclaw 00:58, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to her as soon as I can. It's homecoming week and its making me busy. Please don't decline. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:32, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? Wow I say 'Hows this?' alot. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 21:02, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Done! How does she look? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 01:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good. Just a few things left. Add a few more tabby stripes on her haunch, but be careful to make it not looked cluttered in that area. Thicken and then thoroughly blend her shading; the shading on Cloudstar is a good example. Lighten her ear pink just a touch, and make sure they are triangular and blended. Add some tabby stripes and put shading on the belly area inbetween the forelegs and again blend the shading thoroughly. Put a few slightly varied colors of the same base eye color in the eye, to make it look more life-like. Not to boast, but you can use my fursona on my user page for an example. A few darks, a few lights, and a saturated pixels. Be careful on her neck shading; don't make it too thick, and make sure to blur it hard. More shading around her head; forehead, cheeks, etc. Again blur. Add some more tabby markings on her tail, as well. -- Bramble -san  02:44, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Added more tabby stripes. Fixed the eyes, did all I could to the shading without messing up the tabbystripes, added shading and tabby stripes to the belly, added face shading. Did I miss anything? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 01:03, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

All the shading is a little too light.Minnowclaw 12:44, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 15:53, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Molepelt (MC) For Approval


My first image. Criticism welcome. Also, I'm not going to be on much these days, so please do not decline this.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:53, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think the ear pink is to big, and maybe to dark fur? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:07, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

yES LIGHTEN THE FUR TO MAKE TO MAKE THE EYE STAND OUT (Oops caps)--Stonestar 14:37, September 13, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Lighten the herbs and perhaps make them more of a green colour - I'm not sure a medicine cats is likely to use withered plants... Lighten the fur a little and make sure to add a pupil and highlight into the eye. Look at some approved images for reference. The ineart is blurred and there is colour outside of it in places. When you've sorted that, then we'll talk shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:47, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better? I tried adding the pupil, but I don't know if it's right.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 06:21, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think this is a lot more good, I can see the whiskers now :) I'm not sure but I think the eye colour sould be more big? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:43, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Meaning?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:45, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've not done a medcat, so I'm not sure if the eye can be biger or not :/ but I mean I can't see the pupil but maybe if you did more colour in the eye you could make the pupil biger, (sorry I'm so bad at spelling) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:06, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, wait a bit.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:13, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Anything else? Sandy, how much shading is needed?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:41, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

perhaps make the eye colour brighter--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 04:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Needs a highlight in the eye. Just put a white pixel on the left side of the pupil. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 20:59, October 7, 2009 (UTC) 12:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:47, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading a lot more, and also, look at Brambleclaw's deputy charart, for example, to see how the eye needs to be done. Otherwise, it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:20, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:35, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thin the shading out a bit and make sure it extends all the way down his back. Also, can you use the dodge tool (um... the one that looks like a circle on a stick) to add a highlight to the top of the herbs. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:03, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. What else? Impatience is the new life,(lol) so how much time does it take for an average image to be approved? I've uploaded this around 10 times. Do not take this statement very seriously.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:35, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

'Patience is a virtue' - I forget who said that. It takes as long as it takes. That's better but now to the same with the other shading on the chest and hindleg curve and then blend! blend! blend! Careful not to smudge the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:32, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Lolz. Impatience is the new life is the punchline of an internet company.. Reuploaded. Did the same to the chest and the hind leg. –– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 07:13, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is good but move the hind leg curve shading closer to the leg.Minnowclaw 01:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:36, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Go back and blur it.Minnowclaw 00:57, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. –– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:48, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, so sorry for not commenting Lightning (I'm a rubbish mentor at the moment - same goes for you Hawkey - I'll try and be around more). As for the image, there are just a few things that need sorting. Make the ear pink ore triagular and definitely a darker colour as he's a black cat and the ear pink shouldn't show up so much. Look at some approved black cats for reference (I'd reccomend Nightcloud, Whitethroat, oh there are loads now!) Then you need to work on the shading a bit more. It looks like you've used the smudge tool - try and make sure the consistency of the shading is the same all over and then blend the edges carefully towards the middle of the pelt a bit with the blur tool. Be careful again not to hit the lineart. One last little thig - the eye is very bright green, could you possibly find a slightly more leafy green? Something not so similar to the herbs perhaps. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:50, October 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:56, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

I think you should blur the hind leg's shading more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 20:59, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Willowshine (MC) - For Approval


Well, I'm still not that great on tabbies, but I really wanted to try a medicine cat, and I couldn't seem to have much luck at finding one who wasn't a tabby. So, how does she look? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:50, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

SHe's really dark, I amagined her lighter. Kinda like Feathertails color. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:57, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. She should be light enough now. What about the tabby stripes? Do they look okay? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:34, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes look fine, but wasn't she like a silver color? I'll check.Minnowclaw 01:23, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Her page says dark gray and the book says gray. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:01, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, in that case, darken the shading a bit.Minnowclaw 20:31, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened the shading. How does it look now? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:37, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the body and blend it. Also, add some more shading to the bottom of the herbs.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, darkened the shading. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:28, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I feel bad becuase I haven't commented on this in days. Sorry Icethroat. With the pic, I love it. This should be approved.Minnowclaw 00:52, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

It's okay, Minnowclaw. :) I've been meaning to ask, is it just mr, or does the shape of the ear pink look strange? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:59, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I know it looks odd, but that is if this was on a real cat, some of it would be covered up with hair. So that's probably why it looks odd, but it's good.Minnowclaw 23:41, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

It's almost there, you just need to work on the shading, especially the line going from between the forelegs to connect with the back shading- this looks really obvious and thin at the moment. Try thickening it slightly towards the back and blending it more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:22, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried to blur the shading, but it still doesn't look right... Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:36, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Is it just me, or does the shading connecting the forelegs with the shading look strange? Ice throat  21  15:41, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think you've blurred the stripes too... try and define them a little. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:49, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

How do I define them? Ice throat  21  19:40, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Draw over them and don't blur so much Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:15, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I've tried to fix it, but I still can't get it to look right... Ice throat  21  02:01, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I've tried to fix it again, but I'm not sure if it's any better or not. Every time I lightened the shading and blurred the tabby stripes, the stripes would blur into the shading, so it took a while to get it...does it look any better? Ice throat  21  21:26, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

This is very blurred.Minnowclaw 12:20, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Do you know how to fix that? Ice throat  21  16:11, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

No sorry.Minnowclaw 23:24, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I think the ear pink color is too... bright. Try a different color. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 22:59, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Oakpaw (A) - For Approval
Right I'm not sure what to think of this :/ Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:20, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Let's start with the first thing: shading. The shading on his isn't enough. I have a guide on my page, so you can check that out.-- Darkhallows My den 05:40, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

is it on your user page? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:43, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yup! I just put it up there. You don't need to shade in that style, though. It's just what I find easiest.-- Darkhallows My den 05:54, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I think the sgading is to dark?? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 06:00, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Right is this good?? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 06:18, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I know whats not right I'm not doing the shadeing right I'm going it Right soon Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:38, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Blend all the darker patches more.Minnowclaw 01:14, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Silly, me! This is oakpaw of Shadowclan right? The darker parts must be shading. My bad. He's very good otherwise, but I'll have something for you when the shading is redone.Minnowclaw 01:19, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

yep he is a Shadowclan cat "_" and they are shading. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:51, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

here he is. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Wait on his page it said he is form the other clan?? but it don't say he as dark patchs? :/ Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:52, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by dark patches, but for the image, add some shading on his back and head and blur the ear pink a bit more.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:54, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

huh? Put shading on his back? the sun is form the back :/ if a should then a will. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 14:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then, but if the sun's coming from the back, you should probably add some highlights there with the dodge tool. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 18:39, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I don't have to make Highlights do I? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:12, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

No you don't have to. Sometimes it's better with and sometimes without. Why not give it a try and if you don't like it keep it how it is.Minnowclaw 23:39, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Right I put in the Highlight but not sure if it worked.... Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:00, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink needs blurred. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:08, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Right. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 04:38, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

He's a tabby, yes? If so then he needs more tabby markings... not just on his back. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:50, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

All right sholud he have some on his front as well? and is there a better sort for that? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 06:48, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

He should have them all over. His back, his chest, legs, hind quarters, head, tail. There isn't a specific style that's good, it's up to you but try and vary them a little withn whichever style you choose so you don't just have those long 'y' shapes you currently have. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:43, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Ok I'm going do them soon. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:51, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Ok I like this one XD I try do make tabby things all over. hope it's good. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:43, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Very nice. I love these. :) Just add some slightly more visible ones on his legs, and put shading on his back. Then he's good to go. Awesome job. -- Bramble -san  21:56, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

lol....the sun is for his back...I forgot to make the highlights. and if I did shading on his back I would have to make the tabbys again. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:51, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

You wouldn't have to make the tabby stripes again, not if you used the burn tool and was careful when you blurred the shading. But I think you should add some shading on the bottom of the chin at least, even if you can't add any other shading on the back. Ice throat  21  20:34, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I can make a highlight on his back so you can see the sun is from the back, and I could do shading on the chin. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 04:39, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Ok I've tried to make all the things...:) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 06:17, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

This looks fantastic to me. Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:36, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There is a pink pixel on his nose; we don't color in the apprentice's noses. Also, the ear pink is too bright for a gray cat. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:24, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

It got killed :( so I had to make a new one...Tried to do all the things. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:33, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Nice tabby stripes!Minnowclaw 12:19, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Repeating; comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  04:25, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

If someone comments does the approval thing stat over? I'm a bit er... :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:50, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Goldenflower (E) - For Approval
I always felt sorry for Goldenflower. First her brother (Lionheart) dies, then her son (Swiftpaw) dies, then her other brother (Snowkit) dies, then her mother (Speckletail) dies...and on top of all that, her mate was Tigerstar! Poor, poor cat. Anyway, does the image look good? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 20:05, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

All I see is that the shading needs to be thickened and blended. Otherwise, she looks great!-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 23:17, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 02:50, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Very pretty. :) Just darken her ear pink a bit. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  18:35, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

I echo what Mosswhisker says.Minnowclaw 00:44, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't she have a ripped ear?-- Darkhallows My den 01:50, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Darkhallows, I didn't add the ripped ear because I'm pretty certain she doesn't have a ripped ear. Her queen version doesn't have it either, nor does her description on her page. Can you provide me with a reference? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 03:42, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I don't have a page number, but her ear was ripped in BP. It was accidentally nicked in a training session. (or something like that. It's in BP, but I don't have an exact page number at the moment.) Ice  throat  21  15:33, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Page 181 of BSP, she and Bluepaw are training together and Bluepaw nicks it.-- Darkhallows My den 10:03, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I'll add the ear ASAP. Will we have to change her queen version, too? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 17:17, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I think I'll do her queen version. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 17:54, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Barley (R) - for approval


This is Barley as a cat in BloodClan, and my first character art. I don't care if it looks great, this is sort of a practice anyways. Anything to improve?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  03:47, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

It needs shading (the burn tool should be good for that), the black patch on his belly needs to be bigger, as there needs to be a balance between the black and white, and his eye needs a white pixel. Also, his ear pink needs to be blurred. Right now, it looks circular, and it needs to look triangular-ish, like the shape of the ear. Otherwise this it good for your first charart! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 13:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Barley is long furred.Minnowclaw 14:30, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

You sure? It just says he's a black and white cat. I'll make the changes, though.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  20:25, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  21:02, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

It's not long haired and yes i'm sure he's long haired. Ravenpaw is a short haired and if you look at any of the mangas where they are shown together, Barley has longer, thicker fur.Minnowclaw 23:46, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

To change him to long haired, you have to change blanks. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:04, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Barley is now a longhair.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  03:40, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Better. Try to make the patches more irregular.Minnowclaw 23:30, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:23, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Try to make the patches more odd a to smooth. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:42, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 21:27, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs to be thicker and only in the places where there would be shadows - take a look at the image and actually think about where your shading needs to be. At the moment it's just hugging the lineart all the way around with the effect that it just looks like a second lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:37, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been touched in a week.Minnowclaw 12:15, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

lol forget what I said XD Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 18:14, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I'm getting to it, don't worry. I'm very busy!--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:11, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:34, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at some other patched cats like Rowanstar on how to do the patches.Minnowclaw 23:22, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Err... Minnowclaw, Rowanstar's image was declined. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 14:51, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I looked at Brightheart's patches.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  17:22, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Blackclaw: I typed the wrong this. Shafgirl: They are more wigly. (Terible word).--Minnowclaw 00:34, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks - for approval


My first blanks! I'm pretty happy with the way they look. I made an example, Rusty, and I didn't have any problems with it. The only issue is their tiny size - does anyone know how to make them bigger without completely re-doing them?-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 23:39, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

These are good! You need to make them bigger so that it will be easier to draw. Also, with the tuffs of fur on their feet, it looks like they're on high heels.Minnowclaw 23:44, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Echo, but Mosswhisker had these on her current projects long before you did. They do look pretty good, maybe you can turn them into something else and put them up. I would hate for them to go to waste. If so, just change the name on this section and put for approval in place of declined. -- Bramble -san  01:50, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe they could be Kits? then the size is all right. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:49, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

What kind of kits? We already have kit blanks. How about ancients? Increase the size maybe...–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:27, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Stupid me, I didn't see Mosswhisker's reservation. >.< I changed them to sharpclaw blanks and got rid of the collars. Also, how do you make their size bigger without doing them over? Frankly, I have no idea... -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 12:40, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Kitypet kits :) But they are Shatpclaws now Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:19, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

We're only having one set of kit blanks as all kits look the same. My first reaction to these is that they look very scrawny, especially on the legs. Thicken them up a bit and give them some strong sharpclaw muscles! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:05, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I think the backs look too....... flat <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:22, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Morningleaf, the backs need to be curved out some. Ice throat 21  02:24, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Redlined it for you, well green lined... Anyway, thicken the legs and curve the back.-- Darkhallows My den 07:44, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

These have been up for more than a week. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:21, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Rains right, 9 days.Minnowclaw 12:13, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I know; my life is pretty hectic right now, and I won't be able to get on the computer much. Please don't decline these. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 15:18, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Needs it's shading thickened immensely and blended. Ear pink could be toned down, but it mostly needs blurred some. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better, but go back, it looks like you blurred the line art or added black marks.Minnowclaw 12:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be more... intense Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the lineart. But Sandy, i don't get what you mean by "intense" <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Use-For-Whatever Blanks


I got bored and made these. I figured that there were reserves on most blanks, so I'm just offering these up to use for whatever. If there's an extra blank needed for something, and whatnot. I'd like to see what everyone thinks they should be, because I've got no idea. Suggestions on editing welcome. ;3 --Sandiwolf 02:46, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

do we have To-Be blanks? or something? they should have whiskers :) and maybe a line going in from the nick? I'm newsh so... Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 04:48, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

And I think the eye is a bit big, maybe the cat is to big as well? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:27, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think that the only blanks that aren't reserved by anyone are softpaw blanks. Ice throat  21  16:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Add some fur to the cat, or else it looks flat. -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda-Love 16:40, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think Minnowclaw has the soft-paw blanks reserved. Maybe they could be kit-mothers?

Oh and yes they need whiskers. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 21:14, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I forgot that Minnowclaw had the softpaw's reserved. But these look too small to be kit-mothers. They look more like young cats. I don't think there are any other blanks that aren'y reserved besides the kit-mothers, though... Ice throat  21  22:29, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I can add whiskers to them. If there's nothing you can do with them now, you could use them for something later. More cats might show up in the future series.--Sandiwolf 19:42, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Sandiwolf, this can't just be Use for whatever blanks. You need to chose something or take them down. What about sharp claws?Minnowclaw 22:59, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Or cave-guards, unless someone else reserved them already? I could check if someone reserved the sharpclaw blanks right now. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:31, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Shoot, sorry. There is already something up for that.Minnowclaw 22:49, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

I saw no rules against it, Minnowclaw. Correct me if I am wrong. But, I can take them down if there is no use for them. --Sandiwolf 17:08, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

No, your not wrong. There is no rule agianst it in my mind, but think about it, if it gets approved and we don't have anything for them, what do we do?Minnowclaw 12:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Echo has the sharpclaws up, and Ice said they're too small to be kit-mothers, and the only thing left is cave-guards, which I'm not sure someone had reserved. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 17:44, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Rushtail(elder) for approval
erm....yeah--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 03:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

He's great! But the tail shading needs to be blurred into the tail, and on his haunch, there is a huge spot of lighter color.  HA WK FI RE98  13:16, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

This is a good start, but it needs blurred a lot. Blur the highlights and different colors, and even blur the ear pink. I'd bring the ear pink to the middle of the ear and then blur it. Otherwise, great job Bracken! Ice throat  21  13:34, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Blur, and maybe smudge a litle if the bluring dosen't workMinnowclaw 22:56, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

I do have photoshop hurhur *reuploaded*--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 00:49, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

This looks much better, nice job! The ear pink is a strange triangle though... look at some other elder images and try to copy the way the ear pink is done. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:13, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I echo Sandy. If it helps the ear pink should look like a curved triangle. Also, the shading and highlights are soooooooooooo good now.Minnowclaw 12:41, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

photoshop pwns! x3 re uploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 16:38, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

The ear punk is to bright pink.--Minnowclaw 00:30, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerpaw (SC) (A)- For Approval
Not much to say, I made him look like his kit version the best I could.  HA WK FI RE98  16:05, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Nice job! The ear pink's too bright for a brown cat though, and it needs blurred more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:18, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerstar doesn't have a kit version.... his stripes look much different than what you have here. -- Bramble -san  18:31, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Unless you meant this to be Tigerpaw (SC) in which case the stripes do look similar, but Bramble's right: Tigerstar's images have classic markings. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:52, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Dangit! *bangs head on computer* I can't do classic tabby. I might have to withdraw this.  HA WK FI RE98  19:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! Maybe I can change him to Tigerpaw (SC)! That would work, for Tigerpaw doesn't have a apprentice version.  HA WK FI RE98  19:08, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, Hawkey, it should be fine as Tigerpaw. But the ear pink still needs to be darker. Ice throat  21  19:44, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! I saw where Sparrowsong has Tigerpaw (A) (SC) reserved. Ice throat  21  19:54, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, *walks outside and screams* Okay, I will talk to Sparrowsong.  HA WK FI RE98  20:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

She said I can use it. :)  HA WK FI RE98  22:12, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. For the actual image, the ear pink needs darkened to a reddish color. There are plenty of approved dark-brown cats that are great examples. Ice throat  21  01:53, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Blur tabby stripes.Minnowclaw 23:21, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are fine. I've blended them the best I can, their just dark is all. Reuploaded.  HA WK FI RE98  00:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder and more... what's the word... I can't think so I'll say apart of the part. Sorry that I can't think of something better.Minnowclaw 12:07, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Morningflower - For Approval


Okay, so I know we're doing current ranks now but I've had her on my current projects and really wanted to do her queen version. This is my first tortie attempt (well, the first one I've completed without sending to the recycle bin anyway). I know it has faults but be nice ^_^ I'm more nervous about posting this charart than any other since Kinkfur... lol Constructments?

ps. Bramble, I made a typo when uploading, please can you delete Thanks x Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:50, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

There's a white pixel on the right of the head. But otherwise, this looks great, Sandy! Ice throat  21  22:35, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

This cat doesn't look like Morningflower. She wasn't once beautiful, she is beautiful. Nice job Sandy!Minnowclaw 23:16, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Deleted. :) Lol Minnow, this is her queen version. The image is magnifique, Sandy. Maybe just blur her patches a touch more, and add a few more ginger speckles in the large areas with just black. -- Bramble  -san  23:19, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Well... you know what I mean. Perfection!Minnowclaw 23:20, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Icethroat - I noticed that when I uploaded her but couldn't be bothered to change it until I knew what else to do. Thank you Minnow =) Bramble: Danke, and I'll work on her either tomorrow or thursday. Tuesday is my uber busy night. lol Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:47, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I know it says dark tortishell on her page, but this is too dark; I can't see the lineart. Lighten her up a little. Also, do you have a reference that says she had a white paw? It just says tortishell on her page, not tortie and white. (Either way, blend it in more.) Also, the white spot on her tail is the same deal. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:06, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Also, there is still a white pixel on her neck.Minnowclaw 22:54, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Okay everyone, I'll fix this tomorrow probably. Minnow: I know there is - i haven't edited her yet... :/ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:30, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I've made the changes but they're not yet showing on my computer. I hope you can all see the new version. Comments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:49, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and Bramble... I did it again... that stupid typo file =( please? sorry x Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:37, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Lol Sandy :) Deleted. I love the speckles, they make her look really tortie-like. I don't see anything else. The only thing maybe, maybe is to make her black a touch more like dark brown, as some torties I've seen have dark brown as their background pelt color, and it looks cool. But that's optional. You think it should stay that same, that's fine. -- Bramble -san  22:03, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

I took a picture in my head of what it would be if she had a dark brown pelt. I think you should stick to black, but that's just me, this is your image.Minnowclaw 12:05, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I tried to do a dark brown version bu it messed up all the patches something terrible and I couldn't get it to look right. Sorry Bramble but I think she's going to have to stay black. I'll do another tortie soon with a dark brown pelt. =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:51, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

That’s a-okay. :) She looks fine black. Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  04:25, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Redclaw - For Approval
Ugh, I hate this picture. But I'll put it up anyway. The shading is blurred as far as it can go. Constructments (I love that word :3)? --Hawktalon 22:53, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

He's good, but the shading and highlights need to be blurred a lot.  HA WK FI RE98  23:03, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, blend. Minnowclaw 23:14, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to blur the shading more, but I don't think much has changed (stupid Pixlr >_<).Any constructments? --Hawktalon 19:52, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Your right, nothing much happend. Try smudging it.Minnowclaw 22:53, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Smudged the shading. Comments? --Hawktalon 21:32, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Sumdge this more and blend, but it's much better. Focus on the shading on the head. (That part tripped me up on my Seedpelt).Minnowclaw 12:02, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Smudged and blurred the shading more. Anything else? --Hawktalon 20:10, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink if gray.--Minnowclaw 00:28, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Pebblepaw (Ki) - For Approval
Comments/critisism? Hopefully this will turn out better than my cave-guard blanks... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:18, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Soo cute! I love it! But the shading needs to be blurred a little more, and it looks slightly dark  HA WK FI RE98  22:33, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Alright. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:23, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened and shading is blurred. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 23:07, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Dawnstripe- For Approval
. Light base with lighter stripes? Kill me?-- Darkhallows My den 04:16, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

This looks great! All I can say is that some of the shading looks more gray than the color of the rest of the fur. It looks strange being so dark, especially on the tail and the hind paw. Try making it lighter, more like the color of the pelt. Ice throat  21  20:28, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

I think that the shading looks fine. On a cat like this it might turn orange if you do it differently. Good job Darkhallows.Minnowclaw 12:00, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree with Minnow: I see no problems. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:56, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  04:25, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Night of No Stars - For Approval
This is my first submission on here, so.....anything need fixing? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:pink; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">♥~Mistpelt~♥ 23:31, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

Well, the color is way too dark. But she's very good besides that!  HA WK FI RE98  23:53, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

The image is very good, but Night was never a to-be in the books. We also decided that we'd do current ranks and not past ranks. Mist, if you'd like to submit with another to-be, please feel free to do so. The image is very good, but it's not needed. -- Bramble -san  02:26, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Gooot it! =) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:pink; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">♥~Mistpelt~♥ 10:41, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Sloefur (D) - For Approval
There is shading, but it's hard to see...and what you can see it really messy...should I thicken/darken it, and blur it some more? I've blurred it over and over again, but Pixlr isn't doing much for blurring... Ice throat  21  00:39, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I'll add more shading soon...I should be able to get to it today or tomorrow... Ice throat  21  02:11, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Like you said your self, shading. It's easier with a black cat to do shading with the dodge tool, but if your more comfortable using the burn don't listen to me. This is also very dark. I know that it's not black becuase if I tilt me CP I can see the line art. But lighten it up a bit.Minnowclaw

I've got a busy next couple of days, and I won't be able to get on very much. I'll try to work on Sloefur when I can, even if I don't have enough time to reupload it, so please don't decline this. Ice throat  21  17:24, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Morningflower (E) - For Approval


Thought I may as well do her elder version too while I was at it so here she is Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Betutiful!Minnowclaw 23:16, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - No complaints here! Nice job! :) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  01:38, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Um... maybe you can put some ginger spots on her face, too. But other than that, wow! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Eveningswift :) 02:48, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Uh... nevermind. But maybe the bottom of her cheek? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Eveningswift :) 02:50, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

There is no ginger in her queen one so we should leave that out.Minnowclaw 12:38, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I used exactly the same colours for her elder version as her queen version. I don't think I can really fit anymore spots on her face without losing too much black. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:52, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Pebble - For Approval
Um... (searching for something to say! AhhhH!) the best To Be that we have met, really. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 02:45, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Maybe blur the top of Pebble more, though. Maybe... :) Great, Dawn. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Eveningswift :) 02:47, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

She is blurred to her max everywhere, unless you can point out a certain spot where she isn't :) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 10:23, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Whiteclaw (W)
this is Whiteclaw. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:29, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

She is way too dark.Minnowclaw 14:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Fallowtail- For Approval
Wasn't home for a few days.-- Darkhallows My den 10:49, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Beutiful Darky!Minnowclaw 14:06, October 12, 2009 (UTC)