Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Bumblekit for Approval
I'm finally back! Well I see Bumblekit was taken down like I expected. So here we have Bumblekit up again. No highlights this round (i despise them on kits)just different sets of shading. I looked at some of the other kits for reference.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 22:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back, Bumblekit! I'd say he looks pretty good, but your shading confuses me. Where is the light source coming from? -- Goldencloud 23:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading style looks fine to me as it's what is used on a lot of approved kits. I just think it needs to be darker and slightly bigger on the forelegs. Sandy Talk! 10:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well here we are. Finally got me some more free time. I made the shading darker and long on the legs.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Now you need to blend it into the pelt a lot more to get a natural transition and perhaps make it smaller on the neck Sandy Talk! 08:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Updated-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 23:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, he sort of looks like he's wearing a hood with earholes because the shading's a bit large. :) Maybe decrease the shading a little around his head, and on his right side the shading under his chin looks a bit large. Also shade his ears a little. He looks cute otherwise. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading on (our) right side seems short. Bring it out so it fill that entire area behind the leg. -- Dawnfeather 09:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Updated-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 00:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The new line of shading is really stong. Soften it out a lot. -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 06:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a line outside of the line art.Minnowclaw 02:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * Updated. Never noticed that line since it got onto the alpha channel. Its fixed now, thank you Minnowclaw. And soften it out....I'm guessing Dawnfeather?-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 20:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yup, it was me, Dawnfeather. Sorry about that sig... Anyway, I think that the shading on the head and the same shading I was talking about before on the shoulder could be softened a bit more. -- Dawnfeather talk! 22:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

The (Our right) right ear looks odd.Minnowclaw 00:31, 27 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Mousefur-for approval
I have NO clue how or why this was deleted. My internet was down and I couldn't get on to fix it. Can I please keep working on it?! Minnowclaw 23:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It was probably deleted because it hadn't been worked on in a certain amount of time. :) I think she looks good, except she needs more shading. Goldencloud 00:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Can I still work on it? If so, where should I put more shading?Minnowclaw 02:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Of course you can still work on her - she was taken down due to lack of work but nobody knew it was because you couldn't get onto the computer. If that ever happens feel free to resubmit as you have done here. As for the image itself: More shading could be put on the head and it all needs to be a bit bigger if you ask me. Blend all your shading and perhaps change the ear colour as it's kind of purplish. You could also try a highlight on the back to add dimension by using the lighten tool. Sandy Talk! 08:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Which one do you think is better? Minnowclaw 22:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * The first one looks better because the second one with the highlight doesn't match the fur color at all. If that's a highlight anyway. It looks sort of brownish-pinkish.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 23:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

K anything else?Minnowclaw 23:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

She's better, but the ear pink is too light and it stands out. I suggest using this color or something near: Also add shading on the foreleg and hind leg curve. She's very good otherwise. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Does that pink look better? Minnowclaw 21:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

PLEASE, give me all the notes on it you can. I know it's not perfect!Minnowclaw 14:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The ear is better but some of the shading is rather smudgy. Sandy Talk! 14:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

What parts are sumdgy?Minnowclaw 16:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The tail and back. It's not so much smudgy as... unsmooth... if that makes sense Sandy Talk! 16:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean.Minnowclaw 22:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Just blur the tail and back some, and they will look smoother. -- Bramble My Realm 22:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it looks different, but I did that.Minnowclaw 22:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

That looks better, but your ear went back to that bright shade of pink. Change it back. -- Bramble My Realm 23:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I couldn't find the other one, better? Minnowclaw 00:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Oh please comment! This needs to be done before I go to camp!Minnowclaw 15:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I don't know, I think it looks fine, except for maybe some shading on the near foreleg. Other than that, you've done a great job on Mousefur. -- Bramble My Realm 16:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed that, and thanks Bramble!Minnowclaw 14:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Extend it some more out along the tail, so shading is along the whole foreleg and not just on the corner. And you're welcome. -- Bramble My Realm 01:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better?Minnowclaw 02:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

In th eprocess of your shading, the lineart has been blurred in a few places, namely the hind leg curve, the far foreleg line, some of the tail, and some of the back. Fix this, then I believe she will be ready. -- Bramble My Realm 22:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I did my best to fix it.Minnowclaw 23:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Kestrelwing - for approval
What do you think of him? Did I spell his name correctly?Minnowclaw 01:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I actually really like this effect. My only suggestion would be to put in a pupil into the eye! :D -- Dawnfeather 06:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The tabby markings need to be wavy like Echosong's, smooth y's like Leafpool, or jagged y's like Brownpaw's. Triangle tabby is, mentioned by Kitsufox, cartoony, and I use Kitsu's judgement on tabby. --

I darkened the pelt a bit and tried new markings.Minnowclaw 14:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like his colour and these markings are along the right lines but they are very squiggly; perhaps straighten them a little and make sure they are everywhere. Sandy Talk! 18:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about not putting a new one up soon. I couldn't get it just right, but now I'm happy with the work.Minnowclaw 14:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Ooops! I forgot the ear, L.O.L!Minnowclaw 14:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks like he has a miniature sun on his flank... Sandy Talk! 16:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The markings look a bit...fat. Try blending them more.--Warrior♥ Warrior's Palace 18:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Good?Minnowclaw 23:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like it but put a pupil in the eye. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 21:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It still doesn't look like it has one. The way I do it is one make a backwards looking utah where the color is now and do a white pixel in the corner of the color. I'm sorry if its wrong Im forgettful right now. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  01:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I got a little bit confused, what about this?Minnowclaw 01:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

lol The markings are very... spindly now, perhaps increase the width by a pixel or two. Also, the ear pink is too bright and needs blending. Sandy Talk! 14:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I made it one pixel bigger and I think it looks, odd. Which one is better?Minnowclaw 15:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like your new version, but your eye needs to be done like on your first image. Also, the tail looks... flat. Add maybe a highlight and/or shading to it. -- Bramble My Realm 23:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Is that good?Minnowclaw 00:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like it but the ear pink is still really... obvious. Sandy Talk! 11:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this a better color?Minnowclaw 19:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Try and make a dullish red instead of purple. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 13:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better?Minnowclaw 15:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It needs blending in Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

This better?Minnowclaw 21:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks bloodred now. Make it a shade of dark pink. -- Bramble My Realm 22:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 23:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnnowclaw

Runningwind- For Approval
I'm not sure about the stripes, I am so sick of doing the other ones though... --<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 09:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about the stripes either. I think that the idea could work though. Try and use this effect to do cats that have marbled tabby markings. It could work. Fiddle around a bit more. Maybe make them curved and wavy randomly, so with and some without forks. Could work... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Triangle tabby shouldn't be accepted like this. Use your regular tabby markings, DH. Plus, If you want color info, Runningwind is a brown tabby, look in Rising Storm when he dies. --

I love these kind of markings, personally. Real cats have the markings, I think, from some cat pics I've looked through. Anyway, maybe darken him because he looks more golden than brown.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

He definitely needs to be more brown and less yellow in my opinion. Also, there is a dark stripe down his back not disimilar to Greystripe's...I don't remember him having this Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, the smooth y's are the most accurate, like the one's on Leafpool. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 22:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Depends on the cat, actually. Does he look better now?--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I reckon he could be a bit browner. I i like the stripes. :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 08:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * He's supposed to be light brown. I don't wanna make him too dark...--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 08:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the colour better now but the ear pink needs a bit more blending. Also, the markings on the top of his head look a little strange... Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I changed it.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 20:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Extend the ear pink a little bit.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 21:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, done.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Could you add some tabby marks coming out from his chest? That part of his body looks bare. Also add some more around the facial area. -- Bramble My Realm 23:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I don;t think they look right, but I tried.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 06:56, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Extend the stripe at the top of his foreleg coming from his chest so it reached further towards his back and move the eye marking away from the eye a little. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 21:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Leader blanks - For approval
(M) - Alright! I've drawn cats for awhile now, so I thought I'd put it to good use!


 * Double lineart? Cheak.


 * About the right size? Cheak.

All it needs is a transparent bckground. Could somebody do that for me please? I know how to do it, but I've had some troubles and I don't want to risk anything! Thanks! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)



OMG, ur so good! =] This are real good. Lets see what everyone else says- but wait, some pplz made leaders with the warrior blanks... <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 20:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've done the transparency for you and had no problems with pixlr... don't know what that was about. As for the images. I like the position you've chosen and overall they are very good. There are a few things though. Firstly their backs are quite bumpy... Secondly, their heads are quite small and could be a bit bigger. I also think the fur on the belly of the longhaired looks strange and needs to be a bit... neater (that sounds so stupid). We also nede to think about how easy they'll be to colour. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 20:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanies! I think the people who made leaders with warrior blanks understood that leader blanks would be made one day. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you mean that they coloured Bluestar in a warrior blank for example. If so then the reason for that is that we are eventually hoping to get images of all ranks every cat has ever upheld. They will all be added to a character's page together. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 20:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'll fix these some more tomorrow... but for now, the fur and backs have been fixed on the male and female longhaired. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

There is gray on the picture? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 01:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

That's the transparent background Mistfur Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:32, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

'''(M) - Note: I will be gone for the next week or so. Please do not delete these images. I am planning to work on them as soon as I am done with camp. Thank you.''' Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:17, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Webfoot- For Approval
-makes mental note to lay of on tabbies for a while---<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 06:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I really like it, except the markings next to the eye don't look right. Make a wave from the eye, and maybe a fork form the whiskers. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:52, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

The marking on the cheek looks, odd. It looks too much like the actual cheek.Minnowclaw 22:25, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Changed eye mark.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

It should be longer and in this shape ~ --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather  09:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Why lay off on the tabbies? It looks great! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 22:13, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

There is some smudging outside of the line art around the tail. Minnowclaw 22:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Fixed the smudging and removed the eye-mark. It was too much trouble, and I couldn't get the shape right.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you should try again with the eye mark. I think it really needs it! -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 10:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so Dawn, it looks good.Minnowclaw 02:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Added it anyway. (I've had it done for a day or so now.. I must have forgotten to upload...)--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It should be a tiny bit away from the actual eye - leave a tiny gap of a pixel or two Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 21:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Deputy blanks - for approval
Yes, I edited the warrior blanks, but when you think about it, they wouldn't look any different. I put the tail down because it said most young warriors and apprentices had their tails strait up in excitement and I thought that when a cat was the deputy, they would look wiser so I put the tail laying down. I put the front foot behind the pic because maybe they had put a cat for the hunting patrol and dawn patrol and was frustrated and hit the ground. Feel free to hate it...Minnowclaw 22:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like how you changed the paw, but i think that the old tail looks better. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Should I put it back to normal or can you give me tips to make it better?Minnowclaw 00:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I think that you should probably put the tails back to normal. It's hard to make realistic tails. Exanding on what I said earlier, the paw makes them look comanding, and busy. (That is a good thing) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I actually think the tails look good down... it further makes them look different from the warrior blanks and also is a pose that just looks dignified. I don't know. Dawn, let's see what some others think. I could be overrided. -- Bramble My Realm 03:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Minnowclaw and Bramble. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 12:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Should I just wait or is there something I can work on now?Minnowclaw 18:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

To further more make it different, I put the ear down, was it better the first time?Minnowclaw 19:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Keep them up. When their ears are down it makes them looks submissive and less like a deputy. Also more resembles a puppy. -- Bramble My Realm 19:35, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I like these but I the shorthaired look like they're sitting on their tails... Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Move the tails up a pixel, so they're partially covering the paws. (Sandy, if you read this, get on the IRC. :) -- Bramble My Realm 19:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better?Minnowclaw 21:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * The paw up like that is a good idea, but I don't like it. It looks like The leg on Cinderpelt that I crippled. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 21:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Yours was completely bent backward, where here you can see a curve. They don't look the same. Minnowclaw, not that much. :) Keep the size of the tail the same and just move it up one pixel over the paws. You know, just sort of skim the bottom off. And one if the pics still has an ear down. -- Bramble My Realm 21:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Good?Minnowclaw 22:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Yeah, lots better. Anyone else have anything? -- Bramble My Realm 22:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The tails on the shorthaired are bothering me. They're too straight, almost nothing is perfectly straight in nature. Curve the tail a little bit. Like the longhaired one, just don't make it as thick. :) --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 00:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Much better! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 03:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The shorthair's tail still looks to strait at the point where it bends. --<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The tail is like at a right angle. Maybe make it a bit more curved instead. -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 10:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Good?Minnowclaw 15:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It's better, but it could be a little more curved. -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 06:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, but this is as far as it goes now.Minnowclaw 15:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Better. Something about that bent leg's bothering me though... it looks like it's really thin and flexible... like plastocine... Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps on the curved leg, you could make the straight line that makes up the far edge a bit more curved? Just to see how it looks. -- Bramble My Realm 23:23, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

But that would make it a half circle, sort of... I'll try it.Minnowclaw 00:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

What about this?Minnowclaw 19:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

They both look fine to me, but we'll see how Sandy likes the new ones. -- Bramble My Realm 01:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Lol. Much better. I like these now. Sorry for being so picky, but it was really bothering me! Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hang on - are you sure these are the right version of the shorthaired as the tails are back to being weird and the leg hasn't changed on the shorthaired ones. The longhaired are great though Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad. I put it back to the old one and fixed the foot. Good?Minnowclaw 21:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Yep, good by me Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 21:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval in 24 hrs? -- Bramble My Realm 22:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Snowfur - For Approval


Tried a new shading style with her. I'm not sure if I like it. What do you guys think? -- Bramble My Realm 17:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Try making the shading a tad bit darker.Minnowclaw 18:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Made the shading a touch darker. Anything else? -- Bramble My Realm 22:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Aaaa, hmm..., I got nothin'.Minnowclaw 22:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks beautiful! I'd say it's ready for approval now. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I like her too, but wasn't she long haired? -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 08:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

People edit our articles, and sometimes they are wrong. I can't find anywhere that says she's longhaired in the books. However, I did find in the BP excerpt that she has gray ear tips, so I'll change those. -- Bramble My Realm 15:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * She could use more shading on her back and a little on her stomach area.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Added some more shading and gray ear tips. -- Bramble My Realm 12:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

You need to blend that gray part in more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't very happy with them, so I made them a touch lighter and blended more. And Dawn, sorry if I offended you by snapping after you asked if she was long-haired. It was a reasonable question, and I was very tired so I snapped. I'm sorry. -- Bramble My Realm 01:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually I heard that Snowfur was long-haired she-cat.User:Stonestar

Can you give me a page number? -- Bramble My Realm 02:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, I wasn't offended. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

' I could feel the cold blasts of wintry air in the forest world, although they could not pierce my thick white fur. ' Secrets of the Clans, pg 77. It Implies that she has long fur. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 07:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... I guess I always regarded thick fur as like dense fur, and not necassarily long fur. But just to make you guys happy I've redone her as longhaired. How does she look now? -- Bramble My Realm 21:00, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading on her chest a little bit stronger on the outside. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * She could use a little more shading on her back-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 20:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

More shading added in both areas. -- Bramble My Realm 22:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, this is really nice. I think it should be approved. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 23:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Queen Blanks - For Approval


I have to thank Minnowclaw for bringing this up. These blanks here are not mine, I claim absolutely no ownership; they belong to Melonlemon. She left, and these were declined. But many people liked them, and there were only a few minor things even wrong with them. On her page, User:Melonlemon, it says we may edit/use her images, and that she's leaving. These are very good, and it would be a waste if we just threw them away. Now, I have done the tweakings that needed to be done; Darkhallows: got rid of that flip on the longhair's tail; Goldencloud: unenclosed the toes on the paws; and Dawnfeather: shrunk the ears. Whew, okay, is there anything else that needs to be done? Will make changes later, I have to go do my dad's FD present. -- Bramble My Realm 23:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I never edited this. I think you're confusing me with someone else. :) <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:21, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh no Goldie. :) I meant the comment you put in it's section. Look at Declined Art 6, under the queen blanks section, and you'll see that you made a comment on it. -- Bramble My Realm 23:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Here, is this better: I fixed the ears, as Dawnfeather said they were too big, I got rid of a flip on the longhair tail, as Darkhallows said it looked unnatural, and I got rid of the enclosed toes on the paw, as Goldencloud said they looked odd. -- Bramble My Realm 23:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The hind legs, the top curve on it should curve outward, not inward. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 00:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. -- Bramble My Realm 00:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I get what you're saying now. I wondered what happened to these queen blanks, I had remembered that they were really good. I'm glad you're re-posting them, Bramble! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 00:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, th lines need to be thicker, and there are little lines infront of the ears... -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 08:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thickened the outside lineart, does it look better? -- Bramble My Realm 15:35, 22 June 2009 (UTC)



Here's an example of what they would look like used. (I did this before I thickened the lineart and didn't feel like making changes.) -- Bramble My Realm 15:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Meh, I couldn't sleep for the guilt, so I changed it. -- Bramble My Realm 16:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I think these look amazing! And I love the one you colored! Once these are approved, you should actually post her as a queen. If you don't, I'll steal it and do it myself! :P Just kidding I wouldn't do that. Or would I? --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 17:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Lol Goldie. I actually didn't think she was that good. It's Silverstream, btw, in case that was hard to guess. :) -- Bramble My Realm 17:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * These look great, oh how I missed this blanks, but do you see the little lines near her right (our left) ear? It looks very sketchy like stinking out against the image. You should erase them. It looks like its the leftovers from when you shrunk the ears. Just fix this and I believe their perfect. Amazing job Bramble!-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

It's like there is 'inside' line art and 'outside' line art. As soon as the line art stops being on the very outside, it gets a pixel or two thiner.-- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 09:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I thickened all lineart, except for facial area and and some small ones, and erased those little lines by the ear, thanks for pointing that out, Shim. What else? -- Bramble My Realm 12:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The changes didn't upload, so I did it again. -- Bramble My Realm 23:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

They look good. -<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't see any problems now. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:58, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

No one seems to have a problem. Comments before approval in 24 hours?--<span style="color: darkblue; background: goldenrod; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Change the file format to .gif, because some computers can't handle lowercase pngs, bu they can handle uppercas PNGs. That's why the kit blanks show up black, even in photoshop, and so do the elder, med cats, and these. I know, I copied them into Photoshop, and they were black. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 01:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Is PNG format okay? (caps) <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it is, but the transparent backgrounds are what'sg them black for me, even in photshop... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 16:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

We could make the backgrounds white and then when people do their images they could turn it transparent themselves so that it doesn't go black... <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That should work fine cause just about everyone has learned how to make them transparent. If they can't figure it out someone could help them or do it for them later once its been approved.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 20:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Tornear - for Approval


Here's the old grey wc tom... he needs to retire soon; younger cats than him are already in the elders' den... lol. Anyway, constructments? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 17:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

'Constructments', Sandy? ;) Well, the only thing I see is that he's tabby. And I know this for sure. His description in the allegiance has always been tabby tom, and it said in the books somewhere that he was gray. Those are my constructments. XD -- Bramble My Realm 17:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Constructments - comments/constructive critisism (quicker to write lol). I am such a mouse brain. I'll go fetch him some markings :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I added tabby markings but they might not be showing yet. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense now. Your tabby stripes look great. I don't see anything else wrong. He looks just as I pictured Tornear, except with a more irate expression on his face. -- Bramble My Realm 12:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the constructments Bramble :p Is there anything else anyone? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome, Sandy. :) Comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 01:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Wolfkit - For Approval
I wasn't sure which one to upload first so I went randomly. Runnningkit will be next, then Smallkit. -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 06:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any problems. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I got nothing. Lovely. -- Bramble My Realm 23:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Mmmm.... I thought that the shading on her chest was messy, so I spent a while clearing it up. Any thoughts? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 09:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Her eyes should be blue, since she's a kit. Kits with unknown eye color should hjave blue eyes. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 12:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

According to her character page, she has amber eyes. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

If her eyes are said to be amber (do you have a book reference Dawn?) then they should be amber even in kit form Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I had read Code of the Clans and it said nothing about Wolfkit's eyes being amber so change the eye color.--Yai-Girl 21:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I changed the eyes. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 08:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments before approval in 24 hours? <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Runningkit - For Approval
Runningkit is now uploaded, as I promised. What do you think? -<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading on his neck and around his mouth needs to be smaller :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 07:08, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Good. I can't see anything else Dawn Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Should he be lighter? He's only described as brown tabby, and this is more like dark tabby. Other than that he's great. -- Bramble My Realm 02:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Lightened him. Anything else? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 07:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Blend the ear pink a little as it's standing out a lot more now you've lightened him Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Blended the ear, made the eyes blue. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 08:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments before approval in 24 hours? <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Reedshine- For Approval
I tried, and I'm pretty sure I got her fur color right on. Yay for Reedshine! <3 -<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;green; background:black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lightgreen;"> Sandiwolf

It looks very, well, I can't really say. Oh, It looks like you went nuts with the sharpen tool.Minnowclaw 16:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I love the colour but Minnow is right; more blur tool neeeded all over! Alao, the ear pink needs to be, well, pink (but not too bright and make sure it's blended) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, she needs a puil and highlight in her eye. Take a look at the way some other approved warriors' eyes have been done for guidance. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I blended the shading more, and added a much needed highlight and shade on the shoulder. I made the ear pink more distinct and added the pupil and highlight to the eye. Anything else?--Sandiwolf 19:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

It actually looked like you painted it! And did you use MS paint? Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I use MS Paint to make blanks (Which I won't be doing anymore). I use Gimp to color, because it's a lot more efficient for shading. --Sandiwolf 19:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Very vacker (I'm sorry, I have Swedish class and must practice; means beautiful). But that highlight that stretches out into the torso from the chest needs to be blended or taken out. -- Bramble My Realm 23:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, and blended ;D --Sandiwolf 13:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

The ear looks darker around the edges. Maybe you could make it one color, then blend. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but, it still looks to sharp, and un-lifelike. Needs a lot more blending.Minnowclaw 15:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks like it out-lined in a lighter color, almost highlighted, and the shading is hard to see. The pelt looks like a mix of different colors with the shading and highlighting instead of natural. Try putting the shading on first and then the highlights, instead of the lighter color on the edge. ;]--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#65909A">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#B0E0E6">Warrior's Den 16:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

To-be Blanks- For Approval


These were going to be for Deputy, but I saw that Deputy blanks were already made, and New Warrior Blanks were Desired. How about these ones? Male and Female Shorthairs and Longhairs. (Wow, I'm just spitting out artwork lately o3o. I have too much time on my hands) -<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;green; background:black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lightgreen;"> Sandiwolf

They're good, but to small, make them a little bit bigger. Also, I think the nose might be too long, make it the littlest bit shorter.Minnowclaw 16:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Oh afterthought, the lines on the tail of the long hair looks like they've been cut. Also, It was just thought that we needed more girlish cats for the warriors, these are way different and we would have to redo all of the other blanks when we could just do a little fix. Maybe you can work on that? (Don't get me wrong, these are great.)Minnowclaw 17:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I'm glad you like them, and as a note: MS Paint + Bigger = pixelated fail. Dx. But anywho, under Desirable Blanks, it stated specifically this:

DESIRABLE BASES * Warrior o More feminine looking Female Longhair Base o More masculine looking Male Longhair Base So I assumed that a new female and male blank were needed. D= --Sandiwolf 19:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes that is true, but we have many warrior pictures already approved. It would take a very long time to redo them with the new blanks unless they had been a quick fix. Put your work to the test. These bases are really great and can be used in other parts maybe. Also, I'm only a warrior in the project. So if a senior warrior or Bramble thinks we can use these, well, I don't have the power to say anything against it.Minnowclaw 20:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

They look a little to... cute to be warriors. Maybe Tribe To-be's? They look young. But I really love them and they should be used as something.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 21:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Could we use them as apprentice blanks? Please don't ban me for saying this, as I'm not bashing the apprentice blanks but just criticizing them, but I never really liked them that much. Don't get me wrong, they're good, but they look like they needed more work before they were approved. But I really really really like these! I definitely want to use them as something! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 21:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The heads look cartoony, and I think we don't need a completely new base, just modify the old one. Because then, what about the other accepted cats made with the old ones? Plus, they look like wolves. I think tribe-to-be's would be the best use for these. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 22:36, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't show up sooner, i had marching band camp. Welcome to PCA, Sandiwolf. :) These look great, though I agree with Mallinois and Darkhallows they'd be better used as tribe to-be's. About 3/4's of our approved images are warriors, and it would take too long to redo all of them. Now, on the images, the she-cats need whiskers (in kittykat world, the females have whiskers :) And the lineart needs to be thickened to go with our other blanks. Also, the hind legs on all of them is bent at a right angle, make it a bit more natural. That's about it for now. Great job! -- Bramble My Realm 23:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I reckon they could be something from the Tribe. Cave Guard, Prey Hunter, or To-Be. -<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree in that we shouldn't really change the warrior blanks as we'll have to start the whole project basically from scratch... I like these for to-bes though! Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Again the lineart needs to be thicker in keeping with all the current blanks. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the legs and thickened the lineart. --Sandiwolf 13:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Are they prey-hunter to-bes or cave guard to-bes? Also, you need to thicken the line art on the short hairs and all around to blank. Minnowclaw 01:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

To me I think they should be prey-hunter to-bes becuse that they look swifter. (The long-haired she-cat still has no wiskers.)--Yai-Girl 21:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

Kittypet Blanks- For Approval
I swear this is the last thing I'll do today, so I don't flood the list. anyways, I saw that Kittypet Blanks were being CONSIDERED. So if they are ever needed, I made these. --Sandiwolf 15:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The bodies are too big for the head, make the head bigger or the body smaller. Also, the bodies look to muscular when kittypets are supposed to be softer. The tails on the long hairs' still look like they are cut. Also, on the long hairs, the collars look like they have been cut, is that fur?Minnowclaw 16:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The ears are a very strange shape - perhaps make them thinner and slightly more pointed. Also, the longhaired tails look a bit like candyfloss - get rid of some of the small lines. Their backs are very flat and there is some discrepancy between the two longhaired versions - either make the back fluffy or not. Also, the lineart needs to be thicker to fit in with the existing blanks. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Minnow: I made the bodies a tad smaller. They're also meant to look fat, not muscular. Furthermore, yes, that is in fact fur. Sandy: I'm not used to doing thickly outlined drawings, but I did my best to edit them. I added fur to the longhair male's back, and fixed the longhair tails. The ears? I made them thinner and taller.--Sandiwolf 19:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I just looked on the reservations page and Dawnfeather has already reserved Kittypet blanks... Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Awhhh. T.T

I should really be more observant. When I'm not it results in my Depression. There goes another day of wasted work. I'll find something eventually, but for now, would you like me to take these down?--Sandiwolf 19:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you using MS paint? Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

For these, yes. My good old MS Paint and a mouse. --Sandiwolf 19:57, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it won't be wasted. You can talk to Dawnfeather and if she still wants to do them, get rid of the collar and they can be loners or rouges.Minnowclaw 20:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I don't mind. Your's are much better, and I was going to take down that thing tonight unless I could get some good progress from them today. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 08:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Cave-guards. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 22:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Same thing with the hind legs as I said on your other pics. Make the transition more natural. -- Bramble My Realm 23:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Mine are not as good as these. I have had a lot of trouble with mine as I started them in paint... Anyways. these are more in our style and look good. Kittypets, or CaveGuards, Rogues, Loners. I think they would work whatever. -<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the back leg, and thank you Dawnfeather.--Sandiwolf 13:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that you should fiddle around with the chin a bit to make it a bit rounder and lower, so it will be more in the style of the other blanks. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 11:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello Can I Join?
Hello, I'm Yai-Girl, a new member in Warriors Wiki. I love drawing and hope that I can join. At first, I had trouble joining but, thanks to Bramble and Sandy, I connected. May I join as a new member? Thanks, --Yai-Girl 16:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Yai-Girl

Of course, Yai. I added you to the template. If you have any questions then just ask :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

What sites do you use for the pictures?

Sites I've heard are good are Pixlr. But you can download Gimp and Photoshop. When I downloaded Gimp it was free. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  23:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Again, I'm having problems. When I went on www.pixelr.com it said that it was under construction. When I went on www.photoshop.com It said I had to create an account with my real names and I would like to keep my identity secret. Finely, when I went on www.gimp.com the computer searched another website.--Yai-Girl 15:11, 24 June 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

It's gimp.net. Also, you don't need to sign ~ Yai-Girl, just ~. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

try www.pixlr.com again. It was probably just a very temporary thing. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 11:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I checked it, and it's still under construction.--Yai-Girl 21:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

It's not under construction; you're going to the wrong link. Instead of pixelr.com try pixlr.com. Here: Pixlr Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 21:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay I'm on the website, but I don't know what to press 'create a new image', or 'open image from URL' (sorry if I'm making everybody angry)--Yai-Girl 22:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

You need to go to the main project page and click on the blank you want to colour. Then save the fullsize version to your computer. Then do 'open image from my computer', upload your image and start to colour. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 07:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

White-eye - For Approval
He she is. Meh, this drawing was way to easy. I would love to get Blossomkit up... because she REALLY needs help. But meh... that can wait.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 21:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

She looks nice. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 09:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't see any problems. Nice work Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

It looks great, Darkhallows. I love how you did the eye. Comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 01:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlight spot on the shoulder goes too close to the chest at the bottom. The bit on the neck doesn't look entirely right to me either. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 11:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I know she's called white-eye, but could you add very pale color to the eye? It looks lifeless now. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 16:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The eye is supposed to be. From her description it seems her eye is 'dead'. I once met someone who had an eye like that. He had stabbed it on something... I don't know the whole story. In the end though, it was white. I changed the highlight though.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 23:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It says in the books that one of her eyes was clouded and sightless... so yeah, I would agree that the eye looks alright as it is. -- Bramble My Realm 22:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Marshkit - For Approval


Tallpoppy's little kit... who disappeared. Comments? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

The tabby markings could stand out a little tiny bit more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I made them darker if the change ever shows. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

The eye looks a bit weird. Maybe try something with the pupil or darken the yellow.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 22:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I darkened the eyes and the tabby stripes are showing up darker now too. Anything else? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:41, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. Does anyone else have anything? (I'm really hoping we eventually get to see Marskit and Applekit as warriors, I miss them) -- Bramble My Realm 21:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The pink of the ears is down below the ears. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 08:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Sorted Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, wow, I just called Marshkit Marskit. xD He'd be like a little reddish kit with antennae sticking out in place of his ears... (apologies, I just had to point that out.) Image, again looks great Sandy. -- Bramble My Realm 22:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Toadfoot - For Approval


Thought I may as well complete the trio, so here's the only one of her litter to actually become a warrior... shame as I quite fancied Birchfall/Applekit having a cross-clan friendship! lol Comments? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that the eye marking should be more of a wave, extended a bit further too. (My cat encyclopedia and my tabby cat all have the 'bout inch and a half long wave from the eye on a tabby). More forbidden love? I agree though, they would be sweet together. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

yes, more forbidden love. I agree that it's overused by this is different... not just a love at first sight kinda love (bleh) but a friendship + something more kinda love. That's what the Clans are missing. That would be a forbidden love that we haven't yet seen (I mean there wasn't even any evidence for spottedxfire... I never saw it coming and didn't even realise they loved each other until after she died.) Anyway, I'll take that to the forum lol. I changed the eye marking. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:31, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make him more darker? He's (I think) described as a dark brown tabby tom. BUt other than that I think this is amazing. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, when I checked the Allegiances, he's described as just a dark brown tom. :) I also checked in the actual book. This is kind of ironic, Tornear needed stripes and Toadfoot has stripes he doesn't need. So Sandy, take out the tabby stripes, even though they look great. -- Bramble My Realm 01:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Ahh... I'm gonna stop trusting the articles on here for descriptions... :( I'll get onto it asap Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, asap is now. Done Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks awesome but there's a grey color outside the lineart. It's by the tail.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 19:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. (I really need to sort myself out, I'm getting slack! lol) I'd forgotten to make it transparent and get rid of the smudging from the burn tool. It's sorted now, thanks Warrior Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 21:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading looks really odd, and un-smooth.Minnowclaw 21:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Maybe you're right Minnowberry. Sleep deprivation is clouding my judgement right now. I'll work on him tomorrow as it's ten to 11 here (pm) and I've bene up since half five... I'll sort him out tomorrow. Thanks Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 21:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

There is still a smudge behind the tail. Did you mean Minnowclaw, as Minnowberry was one of my favourite RP character names and I had it in my sig for aa bout half an hour? (You did say you were tired) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 08:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes I meant Minnowclaw, sorry Dawn. The line should be gone as I made the whole background transparent and I've just double checked to make sure. I don't think the upload is showing properly yet (it does that sometimes). I am tired; not as much as I was though. I'll just go and sort his blending now Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Better? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, much. There is a strong line of shading on the neck which needs smoothing out. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 09:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I've blended it as much as is possible now I think. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

That part is good now. The highlight on the shoulder needs to be brought slightly higher and further back. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 14:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Better? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Make him a tad darker. More like Snaketail's color. He looks just normal brown to me. (Oh, and Sand, don't press yourself too hard, get some sleep tonight. You fainting at the computer from lack of sleep would not be good. ;) -- Bramble My Realm 22:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Willowclaw - for approval


Well I hope this can be as good as my Loudbelly. Any improvemental comments? Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  05:56, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The shadin at the back of the neck needs to go all the way up to the ear. It is currently stopping just short. (Improvemental, nice. I like coming up with words.) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 11:46, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The head needs shading, put some front leg shading, and maybe blend it some more because it looks a bit lumpy.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 15:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok here is the new one. If you notice you can see that I tried to do the whole shading on the thigh thing but i don't know if it turned out that well. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  20:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I really like this. My only complaint is that whole ear colour thing again... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 03:13, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Cloudberry-for approval
I wanted to do a gray riverclan cat, so here's the worst textured cat ever, Cloudberry. (Dawnfeather, notice it ends in -berry :) --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 16:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I really like the colour you've chosen (and especially the eye). She's not the worst textured cat ever! lol. You just need to thicken it over the shoulder and blend it all more. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 21:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading underneath the neck is too low, and there is something across the shoulder. however, I love the eye and pelt colours. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 08:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thickened shading all over, and I'll probably use the dogde tool if I need to. How do you use the dodge tool on these cats to texture them? --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 13:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

With Warriors I get 25 soft brushes and click once or twice on the front and back shoulders and the tip of the muzzle.

The shading on the neck needs to be HIGHER! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 14:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Neck shading higher. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 22:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Thistlekit- for approval


My first kit! What do you guys think? Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Blend the spots a bit more, and the background is colored...? (Oops, forgot to sign)--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#65909A">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#B0E0E6">Warrior's Den 22:03, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Anywho, add a spot on the chest and one on the head.Minnowclaw 21:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The backgrounds colored? On mine its white. But anyway just add some spots and fix the background(?) and it would be good? Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  22:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Also thoroughly blur his shading and add some more on his front paws and the tail. Blend the ears some more as well. -- Bramble My Realm 22:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Heres my new one. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  23:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading is still very sharp. Blur it a lot more. You can almost never blur too much (unless it appears melty). -- Bramble My Realm 23:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Much better, but I second what Bramble said, you need to blend the patches more.Minnowclaw 23:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Congratulations and Well Done Everyone!
As you may have known on the 15th June there were 80 approved coloured pixels. 11 days later, on the 26th there are now 100 approved pixels. That's 20 in just 11 days. Well done and thank you to everyone for their hard work!

(Just thought I'd say that) <span style="color:DarkBlue;background:LightBlue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DarkBlue;"> Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I will very well second that! We've all been doing great, guys, I'm so proud of all of you! (I'm gonna cry...) We've come a long way from that fateful day when back in 2007 Gorse thought up this Project. I raise a toast to Gorse, wherever she is now. Hope she can come back; see how far we've gotten. -- Bramble My Realm 22:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Smallkit - For Approval


Here he is, just as I promised. Comments, critism? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 22:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Can you make his black patches lighter? It's hard to see the lineart against them. I like their position a lot, though. -- Bramble My Realm 23:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 23:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's better. He's very cute. I don't see anything else. -- Bramble My Realm 00:21, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Brackenfur for approval
Any comments? Criticism is appreciated, as long as it is constructive criticism. Sparrowsong 03:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

The line between the shading on the outside is quite harsh. Also, the middle seems to get gradually darker. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 04:01, 27 June 2009 (UTC)