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Rabbitleap (W) - For Approval
Here it is, finally finished!

Please don't align your images. Also, define the shading. 03:33, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

I was just about to do that xD

Reuploaded. Here.

I saw some waste.

Smudge/blur the earpink a bit, and make it a bit less bright. Also, smoothen out your highlights :] 03:54 Sun Sep 13

He needs to match this image http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warriors/images/5/5f/Rabbitleap_%28TC%29.kit.png/revision/latest?cb=20150912210231 If not already matched. Ignores this if its invalid. --Dewsplash (talk) 03:58, September 13, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash 03:58, September, 13, 2015

Reuploaded.

Blur the ear pink 06:12, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading everywhere but the legs. Define the light on the legs. 12:26, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the highlights some more. 17:07, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. So beautiful.

Reuploaded again. Ugly earpink :P

Nice job! Can you blur the shading and highlights some more, and can you possibly dull the earpink to a paler color other than the bright pink it is now? If you need some more help, you can color pick from actual images of brown cats. 22:56, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm sorry if its not that pale.

Dull and blur the ear pink and smooth out the shading on the haunch; it's a bit blotchy 04:23, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made the earpink a bit more pale. Also what tool do i use to smoothen out the shading. (I use pixlr btw)

If you decide to rejoin the project, I'll add you in as an apprentice. And as for the image, smooth out the shading 10:14, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

The earpink looks kinda neon, can you dull it down a bit? #ab4526 is a good color, I'd suggest you use that, but you don't have to. Just dull it down more, if you want. 10:26, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Also, may I rejoin the project as an apprentice?

Smooth out the shading and blur the earpink? Also, remember to add a timestamp with your signature. 20:25:17 16 Sep 2015 (UTC)

How do I smoothen out the shading? PoppyShine 20:40, September 16, 2015

It looks to me like the shading is a lot redder than the main pelt. Maybe match it more? 15:02, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

To smooth out the shading, just blur it until it blends with the pelt more. 07:15, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Can you use a duller hue for your earpink, and smudge it more? You should reshape it a little, too - you should make it more, um, triangular? XD 08:32, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Also, define shading on the front leg closest to us 08:32, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Does this look better? Reuploaded.

Reuploaded. Made it look better.

Blur the shading just a tiny bit more? 01:18, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Match the colour on the | approved kit image, please. The earpink and eye colour are both incorrect. ~ Also, please blur earpink a bit more, and dull shading, esp on the main body. It's a tad too red 10:49, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

The shading on the legs could use a little definiton + tail needs smoothening, too. Sorry for the deluge of comments haha ^.^ 10:51, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

The shading still seems a bit too red, and I think it's leaking a little along the back. 02:39, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with BC. Define shading on the legs as well? 03:28, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Should i lighten the shading or darken the shading?

Blur it, please and add depth 23:24, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Choose a duller hue for the shading. It really has nothing to do with how light or dark the shading is imo :3 01:20, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

I suggest putting the shading layer mode onto Multiply, but you don't have to. 02:19, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry I have a lot of school work to do, so I cant really work on it that much.

I think the shading is leaking along the back. 16:24, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading and add some depth, and this will be good to go, I believe. 16:48, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Maybe round out the shading and smooth it more?

Sorry if this is spam, but this could stand to be more paler.--Dewsplash (talk) 02:12, October 2, 2015 (UTC) Dewsplash, 02:12, October, 2, 2015

I agree to a certain point - the shading can be darker.

Reuploaded. Eek! It looks horrible >-<

Reuploaded.

The shading looks blocky, for lack of a better word. Try using black shading, since the dark brown is clashing harshly with the base color. I recommend smudging or blurring the shading until you can no longer see the sharp edges, and round it a bit more to simulate the shape of it's limbs and basic body shape. 04:06, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Hasent this image been up for atleast a month now..? 22:31, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

No... Poppy has until the 13th, by the looks of it. Maybe a little shadow to the back and again fur could still stand to be paler. --Dewsplash (talk) 23:33, October 6, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 22:33, October, 6, 2015

Reuploaded. After hours of sheer frustration i redid it :D

Blur and lighten the shading a lot more. Add shading to the legs 01:10, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Oops wrong file. Reuploaded.

Reuploaded. Blurred the shading some more.

Did you add shading to the legs? I still can't see it... 01:58, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Wait for the legs farthest from me?

Reuploaded.

No for the legs closest to you 05:28, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs, and the shading seems blotchy, could you blur the darker part more? 13:47, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Ack sorry. I meant to remove the shadow from the back. --Dewsplash (talk) 14:23, October 7, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 09:23, October, 7, 2015

Blur the earpink some more please 14:27, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

The shading on the legs could still use some definition. Maybe put leg shading on another layer and blur it at a slower rate? 10-15 is good enough, I believe. Just lower opacity if it's too dark.

Reuploaded. Hopefully this is better

No sweetie, not the back legs, the front leg where there's no shading. 00:42, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Snowdapple, can you please refrain from calling other users "sweetie"? I know it makes some uncomfortable ... so I'd rather you not. Also, can you thin out the shading a little bit and lighten it? 00:58, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Reups.

Blur it a little more. 01:52, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

There are patches of darker and lighter patches of shading along the back - can you fix that, please?

Reuploaded.

Reuploaded.

Shading's a bit blotchy - could you smooth it? 19:14, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Sorry to be a bother but smooth the shading some more? Also, blur/smudge the earpink please. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 23:23, October 9, 2015 (UTC)

Reups

Blur the shading a bit more. There should be shading across the shoulder, I think. Also, define the light on the legs? 12:48, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

There's a couple of dark 'blobs' or spots of shading still. I suggest trying to put highlights over it and lower the opacity until that area matches the rest of the shading. If you are unsure what to do, do not be afraid to ask, we don't bite. :) 21:49, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Could you lighten the shading a little, and blur it and smooth it out quite a bit more, and define the light on the legs, please? 11:08, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. So beautiful :D

shading is leaking everywhere and it needs to be blurred more on the tail and feet. 00:19, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reups.

Waste on the tail, and define the shading on the head please and the leg farthest from us. 01:09, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

The shading is leaking on the back. 01:10, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

I hate to rain on your parade here, but this has been up for a month... 01:11, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Winterflurry, only leads can say that. Also, in the rules it states that if an image is close to approval, the user has another week to complete it. Right now, if PoppyShine completes those two comments asked of her, her image will most likely go to a CBA (and no one disrupt it for the sake of being disrupted.) 01:14, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Well in that case, the shading needs to be smoothed out more, and the shading needs to be define on the legs. Try putting the shading on the very backs of all the legs and blur it. 01:19, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry ;; this has been up for a month, it should be declined. 08:24, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Am I allowed to take over?

Just reserve it 12:19, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded:

Smooth out the lighten the shading. Also, add more shading onto the haunch please 13:19, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

This was supposed to get another week for Poppy... 13:28, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Icy outright says Poppy got another week. This is declined, and Poppy, you will be given a full week from the time you see this message. This image is still yours.

No. It doesn't get declined. Do not take over this. I have put it back up for approval. Autumnbright, I'm sorry but you do not get this. Poppyshine, this is still yours. 14:12, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

I know what I'm doing, Icy. Autumn's version got declined, and that's what I was doing. Check the last few messages... This version is declined and will stay as such until Poppy changes the heading.

Reups.

Reuploaded. Removed the blocky shading.

Smooth out the shading a bit more, and define the light on the paws furthest from us, and define the shading on the paws closest to us 17:25, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 20:24, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

The light/shading on the legs still needs to be defined. The lower part of all the paws should be shaded and the upper part should be in light, and the right side of all the legs shaded and the left side in light, using this source. If you're already using that placement, try blurring the shading less. Hope that helped! :) 22:56, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reups. Hopefully it looks better.

Blur the shading on the legs 07:28, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Blur the shading some more, please. 22:39, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Reups. Hopefully this is enough. Also define the light on the back legs a bit. 22:50, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

You're so close! Erase a tiny bit of the shading on the legs farthest away from us on the very front/top where the light should be shining in your source, and blur the remaining shading just a little tiny bit. Also the shading overall could be smoothed out just a tad bit more 23:01, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Reups.

Reuploaded. Erased the waste.

Blur the neck shading, and this will be about ready. 02:12, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Erase some of the earpink around the edges to make it a more triangular shape, and then blur the edges ever so slightly 02:15, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Shading could be blurred some more on the tail. Shading also seems like its leaking in someplace like the neck and bottom tail. The shading is awkward of the least visible paw too. Switch it around please :) 03:04, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Reups.

Early Settler blanks ~ For Approval
thanks 2 the gays that uploaded for me :* i know they're way too big but can someone like recommend a way to make them smaller that doesn't pixelate them?? ty 14:11 Wed Sep 16

Maybe make the long-haired's tail a bit fluffier? These are so awesome! 14:35, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Try adding some tufts of fur to the back of the front legs/elbows on the longfurred. Cats normally have longer fur there regardless, but it would be even more prominent on a long furred cat. Also, try to make the tails a tad more.. rounded and soft?? It has a few sharp edges here and there, so if you could soften that it would be great. You did wonderfully on these! 16:22, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

For the back legs, do you mind trying to make the femur...protude, a little, if you get what I mean? if you don't feel free to ask - sorry, my brain is fried. 17:42, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Can you fix the paws, they look a bit off 18:00, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make the image smaller? 20:04, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know of any way to make them smaller without pixelating them - just make them smaller, use whatever tool on whatever program you have to harden the lines, if possible, and if that makes sense, and then go in manually and make sure the whole lineart is two pixels wide. Definitely make the long-haired tail way, way fluffier, as well as the cheeks, neck fur, and belly fur, look at the queen blank to see what I'm talking about. The far back leg (behind the cat) is bent way too sharply, and the toes should be facing straight to the right, not turned towards us. The paw on the back leg closest to us looks like it's lifted in the air, and that wouldn't work since the front leg on the same side is definitely lifted in the air, the cat wouldn't be able to balance like that; flatten that paw so it looks like it's set firmly against the ground. The lifted front leg, the paw looks like it has too many joints - either get rid of that bend just above the paw and have it held straight up with the toes held out forward, or bend the paw back. Also, your perspective seems off; the far front leg is much longer than both back legs. Make sure the paws on the same side of the body is even with each other on the ground. I apologize for the wall of text. I was trying to be as specific as I could. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:32, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

The tail looks a tad uneven- it looks a bit... Bumpy in some places? 02:30, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

The paws look a little thick too me idk 15:07, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Cats aren't that ... for lack of better words, "skinny". Skinny enough that you can see their bones. It seems like in this case the point is to see the muscles and bones, and I don't think they should be seen. However feel free to disagree with that. 23:09, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Here's a friendly reminder to not forget to re-upload! 06:53, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. bullied david into uploading them for me ( thanks nerd ) anyways i kind of butchered them while resizing i m sorry. also, superfluff. 11:20 Mon Sep 21

Ok so there seems to be a little too much fluff on the long haired kitties. For all four paws can you make the lineart smoother? And where the femur protrudes, the lineart should be smooth there as well. 11:36, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

On the contrary, I think there's too many little lines of scruff, if that makes sense, but not not enough fluffiness. Thicken the neck and cheek fur a lot, again, look at the queen blank to see the kind of thickness I mean, and make the tail a lot bigger and fluffier. Make the lifted front paw much thinner, and maybe just make it one toe facing us instead of both, that makes more sense anatomically. Also, get rid of the little toe thing on the closest back leg to us, those only go on the insides of a cat's leg, not the outside, and also cats only have them on the front legs. Nice update. :) Jayie  Unwritten words~ 12:17, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you enlarge the head slightly? 01:45, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

I feel like the leg that's lifted is a little too curved. 22:48, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Reminder to not forget to re-upload! 05:12, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Its only been four days since the last reupload, Fox. I'm pretty sure Berry is allowed extended time to reupload considering blanks are more time consuming than an ordinary charart image. 05:41, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

I know, but I don't think it'd hurt to remind her or something. 07:31, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

shes not always on a computer, she'll get to them when she can. also, with the front leg toe thing, maybe shift them up some? 12:12, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Can you make the heels less "poked upwards"? my horrible explaining

re-uploaded. thanks 2 david again 12:06 Mon Sep 28

Femur still protrudes - mind fixing that? 18:29, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

The leg in the back farthest from us looks like it's lifted, which would mean the cat is balancing on two legs. Is that intended? 20:14, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

I think the heel should be at a softer angle(aka less 90 degree-ish). The cat would break its leg like that. 23:59, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

I think Berry had actually said on Skype that she used a picture of Bella, her cat, for the reference for the feet? I don't think it's bad, especially if she used a reference picture, and there's no better one than one of your own cat. Plus, we all know cats are weird and have their own logic when it comes to anatomy and all of that. I've seen cats in pretty weird and bizarre positions.

Berry I'm sorry, I told you not to make the hind leg protrude when I was the one to suggest it. <_< What I meant right now, is that it protrudes a little too much, but looking at pictures of cats in general (and my cat), I think it looks fine now.

I still think the joint protrudes too much. It should only be pointed that much if the back half of the cat is lower than the front and the legs are bending, but here the back half is mostly even with the front, curving the slightest bit down, so the legs shouldn't be that bent. Here's an example of what I mean: http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/78359625-ginger-tabby-cat-standing-side-view-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=aD%2F%2FqyCLrUbpWYiqK2GFsNwYSssbvBphD95v12k6jDPEgZ4FrOnwkCTANzrz2sTo The leg is a little more splayed to the side than in your image, but you can see that the joint doesn't poke upwards like you've drawn, it slopes down a bit more. Also, there's some weird bumps in the tail, and the tip is a bit too thin compared to the base. The lifted paw is too thick, and the toe should be longer and pointing the paw to the side, and the head should be a bit larger, the paws a bit smaller, and the far hind leg is bent a bit too sharply. I'll post a redline later. Jayie Unwritten words~ 17:53, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

I can't explain, so I did this to represent the comments I have.

Here's my redline: http://www.ezimba.com/work/151003C/ezimba11244517360500.png The way the back slopes is a little wonky, so I couldn't quite figure out how to make the height of the back legs work. But I hope this helps. :) Jayie  Unwritten words~ 15:49, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded ty jayce i made several changes based on the image jayie linked and the two redlines i was given 12:55 Tue Oct 6

Comments before approval? I can't really see anything wrong that needs to be fixed. As Cloudy said, cats are always in different positions, and Berry did state she used her cats as a reference. Also, she indeed did follow the redlines, so I see no reason why these shouldn't be cba'ed. 22:09, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but the head is still too small, the paws are too large and the legs seem too thick, and the legs/paws are still uneven (the front leg on the ground is too long, because it doesn't match up with the height of the far back leg). Looking back on my redline now, I made the head too big, so somewhere in the middle of how big it is now and how big I made it on the redline. Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:25, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Going around jayies comment, i think the end of the shorthair tail could be thickened by a pixel or two to match the base of the tail, and the stomach...bear with me here. The stomach on the shorthair needs to be rounded a bit more. It looks like the cats too pudgy as it is as of the moment. When i get home ill redline it a bit to show what i mean 22:27, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Looking at it again, the far front leg and the far back leg are definitely closer in height than on the last upload, but the paw is much bigger on the front leg and the leg much thicker, so make the paw smaller and the leg thinner on the front leg, and make it match the height of the back leg more. And since you move the back leg up and shortened the height, with the way the front leg is held, it looks like if the front leg was stretched out to touch the paw against the ground, it would be longer than the back leg. Can you either make the back leg longer or the lifted front leg smaller? Also the far back leg's joint is still bent too sharply, it looks like the joint is farther up on the leg than it should be. Look at how I softened it on the redline to see what I mean. Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:30, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Erm, the paws aren't too big... Cats have such different paw sizes, and how Berry has it is fine. I'm still pretty sure that she used a reference image, and it's not like we don't have many examples of cats actually being described with big paws in the series...

I still say they're too big, but if you're gonna keep them big, at least make them all the same size. Like I said, the far back leg's paw is much thinner and smaller than all the other paws, and the closer back leg, the toes seems shorter than the other paws, and almost square-like - round it out a bit. Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:05, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

I think the paws are fine actually 12:33, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

They differ in size too much. The far back paw really shouldn't be that much smaller than the far front paw. Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:35, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Winter, honestly. It looks fine, and it's really not that big of an issue. 23:46, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

The paws are the exact same distance away, and yet they're very different sizes and heights. I'm sorry, but I really, really think that's an issue. Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:59, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Jayie. They should be the same size. 00:38, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Actually now that i look at it the back paw could be bigger 12:03, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Still working? (I do think the paws are fine.) 15:03, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I'm still working. I haven't been able to do anything yet because school started back and already I'm s tressin but I'll try to upload tonight. 07:09 Thu Oct 15

Vary the long furs on the tail a bit more- right now they look pretty uniform. 13:50, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Blossom (Lo) ~ Withdrawn
I messed up so badly >< This a record for me, first tortoiseshell and loner. Comments? 23:30, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Define the belly shading, and there doesn't appear to be any shading whatsoever on the legs not facing us. Is that intended? -- 00:05, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

I think it is intended but you're right, it should be added. Can you blur the shading between the elbow and haunch? And define the tail shading. 00:51, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

The shadings looking a little flat. Define it a bit?, idk --Dewsplash (talk) 00:59, September 23, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 00:59, September, 23, 2015

There's texture on the tortie parts 01:31, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload The left legs shading wasn't there at first because I forgot it >< I think there's supposed to be texture, but I could be wrong. 07:26, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

I still can't see texture on the tortie parts. Also, define the main body shading plz. 09:05, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

I think the patterns on and the patches itself should be more smudged than this.

Reupload 23:00, September 23, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the patches more with a 1px hard edged brush 03:26, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 07:44, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on her front legs 09:51, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:00, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the neck/face a bit. 00:34, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 23:10, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

I still think the lighter pattern can be smudged more and have a smoother transition with the darker parts. 03:09, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

any advice what that? I if I smudge it anymore >< 23:07, September 26, 2015 (UTC)

It's fine to be honest. 01:30, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Can you just smudge the patch where the body meets the tail? The rest of the patches look fine. 13:17, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:08, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Stealthfire, this is beautiful, as always with your art. 00:23, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

I apologize, but I still can't see texture. Would you like the file for my version of the loner? I got all the colors and stuff from Beeb's file. 02:53, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Which texture do you mean? I have texture over the tortoiseshell patches and texture over the edges of the white near the patches. 22:51, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

We can't see the texture at all, actually. Are you making the texture the same way you did for Houndstar..? Because the thick lines line that aren't texture... they're lines. They should be thin and probably smudged or stylized whichever way you prefer.

I can tell you that the rogue's got texture that is drawn with long lines then smudged with a 1px hard edged brush. 09:44, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload I've drawn the texture one pixel thick, and smudged it. I have a terrible smudge tool because it doesn't give me hard edged option. I made another layer of texture because it's difficult to see, but I'm thinking along the lines of darkening it if there's still trouble seeing it. 02:08, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe make the texture thicker. Not the lines themselves, they should be thin, but I mean put the lines closer to each other and add more lines, if that makes sense? An maybe try and smudge them a little more? It still looks a little... line-ish? 21:19, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 23:02, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs 06:23, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:40, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

I'm gonna be that person, but I still cannot see texture. Try using a paint brush maybe? 02:39, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload I'll try defining the texture more. It's got two layers and it's been darkened. I'm surprised you cannot see it. 07:25, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

The neck looks a little grey - wonderful job. 01:56, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

The white on her shoulder is over smudged 02:37, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 20:53, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Lets try this again. Comments before approval? 02:32, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the white on the shoulder still looks over smudged, and the texture should be smudged more- they look like lines. 11:40, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 20:38, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, one morem time. Comments before approval? 23:01, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to get killed but did you unsmudge the white on the shoulder? I compared the two revisions and there was no difference. It needs to be a bit more unsmudged. 05:51, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload yes, and it's as solid as I will let it. If you still have a problem, tell me to tweak the texture instead. 20:46, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

The transition is kind of... Spiky? The hardness is good though 10:37, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 05:53, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs? (sorry if i sound irritating and picky ;;) 13:11, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload Yeah try to say it in once sentence/post instead of broken up. It is getting a little bit annoying. That's okay I'm not finding you irritated or picky. 21:04, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

I think the white on the shoulder should be smudged more, as the transition is harder than the transition on the flank. 21:10, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

May I please have a second opinion on that? I've been asked to smudge it again and again, then asked to sharpen it again and again now I'm asked to smudge it again. That's kinda frustrating really. 21:30, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

It's fine. 22:11, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Sharpen the texture more, they look like drawn lines more than texture, to be honest. Try using the paintbrush instead of drawing with pencil then blurring it. ` 08:26, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Looking at the rogue, I think there are more yellowish-looking patches. but I don't know 100% ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 08:53, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Uhh, Burnt. If I was to sharpen the texture wouldn't that make them look more like lines anyway? The rogue's patches look different because more of it is exposed to light, unlike the loner. 07:31, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

I got the file from Beebs when I was doing the loner. There are 3 shades of colors. The base is a light brown and there's brown texture, then there are thick golden-brown stripes and another layer of dark brown stripes. Then it's covered by a layer of white. It appears that your loner has two shades of color. What I suggest about the texture is to draw it with a pencil then smudging it. Would you like the file? 08:21, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Yes please! 19:59, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

never mind. Withdrawing since it's been a month. 07:39, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Can i take over? 07:46, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Rockfall (W) - For Approval
I know I'll probably have to smooth out the shading some more, just wanted to get this up before work today 15:14, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the paws further away from us. 15:40, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Define the earpink a little, maybe? This turned out nice :) 11:10, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the haunch shading. 13:29 Sun Oct 11

Smooth shading everywhere? 22:26, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe darken/add shading along the back? There's a little patch of lighter shadow there

reups 23:09, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Could you blur the shading more? If not, that's ok. ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 08:27, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

I personally think the shading is fine - if it's blurred more, she may be told to sharpen or define it. 20:58, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

To be honest I think the shading on the main body looks quite solid-y, but the rest look fine 03:54, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

I see abrupt hard edges on the shading and I agree with Blossomstream. Please blur it more. 13:52, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

reups 22:27, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Firestar (Alt. KP) - For Approval
he's a steel cat. 01:24, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

u need those m stripes 02:21, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Uh, when was he ever called gray??? Just clarify me this one thing... And if it's plausible, maybe put it in the trivia on his page?? 02:31, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

He was seen as gray in the graphic novels/mangas. As for the image, define the earpink. Also, are the darker areas some really awesome shading or mark-thingies? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 02:38, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Add/define the paler muzzle. 02:53, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

It's for non-tabby. I'll add the cite now. 04:10, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

where's tu ear pink? 07:53, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Lol nose too if you don't mind

I get that shading darkness is the artists' choice, but it looks too dark right now. Please lighten it and smooth out the shading. 18:34, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Firestar (L alt3) ~ For Approval
I know about the argument going on, but honestly the cat shown in the graphic novel was clearly not a tabby. I'll keep this up until we get an official disagreement on this. Comments? 13:38, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Can you give the stripes on his forehead some "treatments"? If you get what I mean... it kind of looks like drawn on lines atm to me. Just preference though.

The shading looks a little bit sharp... like hard edged and maybe a little thin. Can you smooth out the shading a bit? :3

Add/define the paler muzzle. 19:23, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

There's shading leaking from right next to ==> that front paw underbelly, and on the <== back paw just one pixel 22:44, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

bye 07:47, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

May I take over this? 08:20 Sat Oct 17

Re-uploaded thanks bramble! thsi is my first original leader holy crap. don't ask me to remove texture there isn't any 09:57 Sat Oct 17

Firestar (App. Alt) ~ For Approval
Just wanted to start with that I am aware that i forgot the M on top of his head, I just wanted to get this up asap. Second of all, I thank Icy for reserving this for me. Third of all, I'm sorry that my shading looks like shit. I'm not the best with shading, tbh. Fourth of all, my first apprentice and addition of a second colour so... yay I guess? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 21:34, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, the shading looks just fine! Darken it a bit, though. =)

Could you define the light on the legs a bit? 21:54, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

All four? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:06, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

The shading is leaking a bit by the back leg on the underbelly 22:16, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Also darken the earpink to match the leader 22:18, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded i lost the file so i'm screaming internally. The good news is that I got to experiment with smudging the earpink. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:43, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Define shading 22:45, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Could I darken it instead? I don't want to end up accidentally having shading leak. I might define it on the back leg though. i forgot to smudge a bit more ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:50, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

No, it needs to be defined, not darkened. Right now I'm seeing none at all. Just darker extremely over-blurred spots and there. 06:15 Sat Oct 17

Firestar (W Alt) ~ For Approval
I know i forgot the pale muzzle i get that later. First time i went full out and added deep shading deapth. Damn this is ugly. 21:43, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading and get rid of the line of shading on the leg 21:47, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

it may just be my screen but dull down the earpink a tad? better than mine. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:06, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

re-up Redid the shading completely 22:08, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading and define neck and facial shading 22:17, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Also define and lighten earpink 22:18, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups  this is as far as i can Blur it. 22:28, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Swap the tail shading around to match with the light source 01:43, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

He needs to be short-furred to match the other images. 03:30, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

River (Leader) (CotP) ~ For Approval
So apparently Burnt was a couple seconds earlier than me. I know there isn't really a point but I never got to do a character of my favorite so I want to give it a try.

... This is unfair to me? You could have at least discussed this on Skype with me- chances are I would have withdrawn for you. Why the heck did you post this first when I reserved this before you?? 11:48, October 17, 2015 (UTC)