Forum:Tweak Week Planning

I apologize for posting Project Character Art business in the discussion area forums; it's late here, or I would be working on fixing up our own PCA forum in the Project Operations. This will have to do for now.

Never mind, Sandy fixed that. :)

Planning
The last Tweak Week was incredibly unprepared for; there was the shortness of time, the chaos of who should do which image, and so on. This will not happen this time. I’ve been carefully formulating this next TW so we can avoid disputes and disarray that happened last time. I will break this up into two sections; one for the basic guidelines, and the other for specific instructions. Discussion will be held, and improvements can be made to these current parameters when suggestions, comments and ideas are put forth.

Basic Guidelines

 * The Project talk page will not just clear out gradually; a separate archive will be made for all images requiring approval. At the start of TW, the images pending approval will be moved there and the archive will be protected against edits, and they will be restored on the main talk page when TW ends.
 * This is to terminate any delay in the start of TW.
 * TW will not be a week, as this is an inadequate amount of time to get all the images done. Rather, it will be a standard month. This may or may not fall on a respective month, such as July.
 * Only warriors of the Project may put up improved art. This is due to apprentices not yet having the necessary skills to properly improve upon a piece of art. Apprentices may still comment in the image sections.
 * The 24 hours will not be used. The image has already been approved; it does not need to be again. The senior team has the authority to archive images with the finishing sentence of “Improvement completed.”
 * The archives will be separate from the regular approval archives. They should be named as follows: /Tweak Week Archive [#].
 * Improved images should be uploaded with the proper name, over the original approved image. For authorization, put ‘Tweak Week revision’ in the upload summary.
 * The ordinary thirty-five section limit will still stand during Tweak Week; moreso that it will only be warriors putting up images. Depending on how many images are done, the warriors may or may not be allowed to put up two images at a time.
 * Nominations (to be elaborated further in the specific instructions) will take place before the actual Tweak Week, for at least two weeks' time.

Specific Instructions
We have over 800 images now. Therefore, we have to be picky about which images we choose to improve, or we could be trying to improve the full array of files in a month. Instead of random choice of a file to improve, an image will be nominated for improvement. The leader and the deputy have the authority to decide if an image qualifies for improvement.

Nomination Guidelines
A user will no longer be permitted to improve any image they want, whether theirs or otherwise. Users should explicitly follow these instructions for nominating:

For Nomination

 * Shading issues; lack of, excess, or inappropriate lighting.
 * Blurring issues; hard transition lines between pelts or shading, blotchiness.
 * Lineart issues; blurred, excess, or odd alterations.
 * Consistency issues; inconsistent with its fellow character pixels.
 * The leader and deputy have the authority to decide which pixel will serve as the example to the others.

Against Nomination

 * Color; pelt, ear pink, or eye.
 * Markings; type of tabby stripe, spots, or other marking.
 * Highlight use; highlight are not required.
 * Formation of pixels; eye structure


 * It should be noted that the Against tenants may be done if an image is up for improvement on the For tenants.

Nominating

 * All users, apprentice or warrior, can nominate an image for improvement, providing the image meets the above requirements.
 * Each respective user can nominate multiple images, providing the images meet the above requirements.

Image During Improvement Session
Copyright issues should be swept aside for this. All the images are used in service to the wiki, and therefore the people of this Project. The following guidelines should be observed during the following Tweak Week:


 * Only the images listed in the nominations will be done in Tweak Week.
 * The warriors of the PCA are permitted to do any image they choose out of the list.
 * Chosen images should be listed in the warrior’s Current Projects slot, following the regular guidelines for the table; filling in the file name and the date.
 * When an image is put on the talk page, the warrior who uploaded it should state its original artist, and then list the improvements made and ask for any further suggestions.
 * Suggestions should not be made on the listed Against tenants, only on the listed For tenants.
 * When there have been no suggestions made within 24 hours, one of the senior team are authorized to archive without using another 24 hour CBA, and will close the session with the statement “Improvement completed.”

Level of Improvement
While some images may only need mild tweaks, others may need to be completely redone. Whether from blotchy shading or consistency issues, an image may very well need to be utterly redone by the warrior improving it. Here are some guidelines on these sort of images:


 * Warriors should exercise caution on wanting to completely redo an image. It may cause consistency issues, and it’s a whole different image than the one approved. A warrior should ask one’s self if the image very desperately needs to be redone, or if it can pass with just a couple tweaks.
 * There will be a separate nomination column for these images when the time comes. This list is expected to be short, as few images should be classified as needing a complete make-over.
 * A statement on the original artist should include that this is not at all their work, and it is the new artist’s.
 * Suggestions can be given on the Against tenants, because the image in question has never been approved before. These sections should go through the full 24 hours before approval, but will still be archived in respective Tweak Week archives.
 * The leader and deputy hold the authority to decide if an image is worth redoing or not.


 * I believe I got everything that had been wrong with the last Tweak Week and provided for the different situations. Now; comments, suggestions, criticism, ideas? Please do not be shy; we want this to go as fluidly as possible, with very little or no trouble. Once we have reached a consensus on the discussion, a separate forum will be created to accommodate the nominations put forth, and guidelines will be made on its use. Please comment below the line. Thank you, Bram ble 06:33, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

This seems like it will work out perfectly! A long awaited Tweak Week is finally coming. Thanks Bramble!-- Night s h i n e   R  06:57, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think I know who I'm nominating.... → •Maple  fern•  ←  12:43, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I know who I'm nominating. Thanks for the new tweak week, Bramble! Icefall Icy Winds 13:39, June 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * So, am I right in thinking that nomination will preceed the TW itself? or will it be ongoing throughout the month of TW? Apart from that, this all looks good and a lot more organised. -- Sandy star 13:45, June 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, I created the forum and topic creator for PCA so this can be moved there if it is deemed more appropriate. -- Sandy star 14:25, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds cool. Yay, Tweak Month! =D Gol den thorn Epic! 15:01, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds awesome! I have a very good idea with what I'm doing. -- Mo us  et  al  on  !!  Here comesSUMMER!  15:12, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I joined the wiki right after the last Tweak Week. I'm excited since I'm a warrior now, I'll be able to contribute!-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 15:43, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sandy; you're correct in thinking the nominations will precede the actual Tweak Week. I'll make that clearer in the draft. And thanks for creating the forum. =) I would have gotten to that, just I was up more or less rather late last night. Thanks for the comments everyone. --Bram ble 15:47, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

What about Hawkfrost? It is mentioned that he has a bushy tail, but none of his images have bushy tails. I think we should do that, since he is one of the more major characters, but is this against nomination or for nomination?  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  15:54, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Good idea organizing this beforehand... last time it was a bit crazy XD I have a question though: What if someone just wants to redo an old image of their own, because they've improved since? (coughmyArcheyeimagecough) Would it have to be nominated for tweak week, or could they simply redo it since it is their own image...? insane brick'd 17:43, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Bramble and thanks for your elaborate work. I am against the "against" points though; those should be criteria as well. As I'm going through the images, the difference between old and new ones are heaven and earth. As we strive to build the best encyclopedia, we should also allow "old-looking" images to be redone. Even if not at this teak week, but a later one. Kind regards, Helixtalk 19:20, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Insane (though I think your Archeye is lovely :P) that depends on how many images are eventually nominated. I want for us all to have adequate time in the month to improve upon images that we all feel really need it, not the ones that are adequate but we want to change just because our skills improved. There are two options for you here; a) you can make a case for the image in question and nominate it, if it has any of the For criteria going for it. It's ultimately mine and Sandy's decision, and we're both perfectionists, so you never know. XD b) wait and see if there'll be time after all the nominations are done for a period where users can put up old images that didn't meet the For criteria. The second option is fully possible, but not confirmed of course because I can't time travel and see how fast we go.

Helix, I put up the Against points because I feel if I did not we would have way too many images to do. A perfectly good image with shading could be nominated only because a user felt the ear pink was a little off. I want major changes fixed, not minor ones like the formation of the eye or a slightly off ear pink. Perhaps in a future Tweak Week, we can work more on these things such as ear pink color and the works. However, I do not want to do that at present. And the tabby stripes and different markings don't all have to be the same; it has been said again and again that different tabby stripe styles are all right. No two cats are identical, anyway. I state again; warriors can fix some of the Against points if they feel it necessary once an image has been nominated for the correct criteria. Most "old" images you speak of will need shading and blurring tweaks as well, and therefore they could be nominated anyway. --Bram ble 22:42, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Of course, you are perfectly right. Actually, I did not explain myself enough clearly; surely we don't have to redo a charart because of an ear or an eye; I mean more "general" things, when the entire charart looks off. I'm thinking for instance of Goldenflower, who was described as pale ginger, but on the charart appears a dirty dark gold (I guess that classifies for "major"...) Anyway, only my opinion. :) Kind regards, Helixtalk 11:00, June 13, 2010 (UTC)