Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Browse Inside
Just wondering.....should the HarperCollins BrowseInside link be added to the Book Infobox? 10:06, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... that would be nice, but isn't there already a page that has links to all the HarperCollins Browse Inside? 18:27, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it could be added to the See Also list instead? 18:28, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Great idea! It should...I don't know of any pages wiht links to all the browse insides except for Moonflight's page... 18:49, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

There is a list that links to the browse insides... Moonflight has one. It's located here. =)  Law liet  Me ow 18:58, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thats what I meant. :P 19:03, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

I know... I just felt like providing a link. Hehe. Anyways... I don't think it should be in the Infobox. I mean, we never put it in there before now. Although it provides easier access, I think it should be placed somewhere else. What SquirrelFlame suggested is a good idea. But, would this mean we'd have to do it for each of the articles?  Law liet  Me ow 19:08, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

I guess so. 19:10, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Do we even know if some of those older browse insides are still up?  Law liet  Me ow 19:12, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Which older ones? I use the Browse Insides frequently, and all the ones I use are still there. 22:52, June 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * They're all there. Every book. 22:56, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought so. 23:21, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know...I still think it'd better to add a link to the infobox. And just before we've never done something before doesn't mean we can't do it. It's up to you people. I'll go with the community. 07:27, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

I still think we should add it to the See Also list because the link isn't really part of the Book information. It's more of a See Also link to a preview of the book. I don't know; if you want to add it to info box, fine with me! =) 02:34, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to go against you, Gray...but... I think SquirrelFlame is right. It does seem like it should be in the "See Also" part of the article. The infobox has all of the publisher information. It just wouldn't fit.  Law liet  Me ow 22:05, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Couldn't it be put in the "More Info" section of the infobox along with the "See Also" section? 20:16, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

I guess that's ok. If people like that idea we can do it, but I don't like the idea of an external link in the infobox. That's just my opinion though! 21:55, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

An external link would seem out of place, honestly. I say keep the "See Also" section where it is, and then add the browse inside link there.  Law liet  Me ow 02:43, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, keep it where it is, and add the Browse inside. =) 15:57, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

So should we start adding in the links? 23:46, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

If you wish. If there's someone that doesn't agree, then I'll put up a vote so we can do things the official way.  Law liet  Ta lk 20:15, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Should I name the links: HarperCollins Browse Inside? That's what I did for a few of the books already. 02:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thats good. we should check with Cloudy, though. 02:41, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad you guys want to check with me first. Yes, Squirrelflame, that sounds like a good thing to call them, since that's what they are.  Law liet  Ta lk 03:16, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Great! Just wanted to be sure. :) 18:08, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I added the link on every page. If there's any book I missed, you can add it in! 22:55, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

You. Are. Amazing. Thanks a ton!  Law liet  Ta lk 22:58, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. It wasn't that big of a deal. :D 17:41, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

lol, looks like I appeared too late, well, no problem with the browse insides. They look good enough in the section, and thank you for doing them Squirrel :) 10:02, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Your welcome! Again... :P Sorry for going against you, though. 19:04, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Don't be. You have your own opinion, and I have mine. We don't have to agree with everything. =]  Law liet  Li ght 17:54, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Gallery Back Covers - Silver Nomination
I got all the books. All I need to do is rename the images to fit the Book Covers. 01:39, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Wow! Looks great! I actually nominated it bronze today and was hoping to make it silver, but you did better than what I could have done! 03:05, June 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's funny. I saw that it on the project page in the chart, and was about to change it, then I saw you already did. :3 03:30, June 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol, yeah! :P 20:43, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me. :D 15:44, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Should we be adding in Crookedstar's Promise (and the SkyClan ones, for that matter), since it comes out next week? And are these the back covers for the hardcover editions? Because the one I have for Outcast is different.  Law liet  Me ow 22:01, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess we should add those in anyway. There must be different versions of the back cover. Can you try to find a picture of the back cover you have online? Then we can see if Moonflight should add that in. 02:24, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

There must be two versions. Some versions have a book summery and others have a list of books. Some books have one, some have the other, and some might have both. So, we'll each have to search our books and scan them if necessary. 02:28, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

SquirrelFlame, this is the one that I have. I get most of my books in paperback, so I think they vary from the hardcovers. I can go through and check mine if I have to (since I have all the books up to Crookedstar's Promise, which I'll get sometime this week).  Law liet  Me ow 01:03, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Good idea. You check through yours, and see if they're the same. If not, you can add it in. 17:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

New Project
Please comment on this: Forum:New Project. 01:14, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

August FA Suggestions?
Yes, I am aware that it's only the 3rd of July, but we might as well get a head start. Last month, a few people wanted to have a short story or play featured again, and Why is Jaypaw Blind?, Tigerstar: Heart of Evil?, and Spottedleaf's Honest Answer were brought up. I'm fine with any of those, but other suggestions are welcome. :) 01:29, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Who cares how early it is? The sooner, the better, that way we have some time to think up a good summary. I suck at them. Anyways, I say that we do another play/short story. Any of the above suggestions have my full support (although I'm a Jayfeather fan, so I'm leaning towards Why is Jaypaw Blind? xD).  Law liet  Me ow 01:33, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Why is Jayfeather Blind? is a good choice. Although like Cloudy, I support all of them. 03:29, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I like "Why is Jaypaw Blind" too. 03:34, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I started the August PC discussion in June. Early is my middle name. Moonearlyflight. :) I think Why is Jaypaw Blind? would be lovely. 17:11, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Night Whispers? But if we're going with short story/plays, Why is Jaypaw Blind? is the one I'm rooting for. -- 22:12, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I really like the idea of doing Why is Jaypaw Blind?. It seems good enough to be featured! 23:43, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I support; I nominated it silver, and I believe it is good enough to be a gold featured article. :D 15:38, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Allegiances Crookedstar's Promise - Silver Nomination
They've been ready for a while now. I just felt it was appropriate to wait until Crookedstar's Promise was officially released. 20:56, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

I don't have possession of CP yet (I need to pick it up at the bookstore tomorrow)...and I gotta ask. Are there any cats that are included in the book that aren't in the Allegiances? We should include them too, right?  Law liet  Ta lk 01:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Other than that, looks great! :D 15:55, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * True. I'll look into that. 15:57, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. According to Helix's guidelines, it says that the Allegiances must be copied exact, so, we shouldn't that then... 00:39, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I forgot about that... I think we should have an extra section for the cats not included. It makes it seem like they're not part of the book otherwise.  Law liet  Ta lk 02:12, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thats a good idea...or we could have a separate list. 20:03, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I like the idea about having an extra section. Otherwise, like Cloudy said, it makes them seem like they're not part of the books. 17:34, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. The extra section sounds better. 00:54, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Night Whispers - Silver Nomination

 * The cliffnotes aren't finished, so...*gets the Night Whispers book from the Warriors part of library* I will do that now. -- 19:56, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

There should be a Publication List. Is there any praise? 19:58, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so. I wanted to nominate it a few days ago, but I had hardly any publication history and there was no praise to work with, so I decided to wait. But yes, the cliffnotes need a lot of work. 23:44, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think a little publication history is better than none :). 19:37, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can you find any praise? And Alteda, you're right, some is better then none.  Law liet  Ta lk 20:14, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, there's a chinese version, another version, and then there's paperback, hardcover, and e-book. 02:36, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't know there was a Chinese version. That really needs to be added then.  Law liet  Ta lk 18:12, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Could someone do the Publication List for me? I can't really figure out how to do it xD However, I'll finish adding in the cliffnotes. -- 21:36, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take care of it for you Icey. You're welcome. =] <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 23:48, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Umm, I do believe I did it right. Not 100% sure... <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 00:16, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

I thought there was a Chinese version. How come it isn't on the Publication List? I tried to add it in, but I couldn't find it! :P 17:41, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

If there is one, I didn't see it. It's not on the Chinese book cover page, from what I saw. Can you provide me a link with the information, if possible? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 17:47, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Warriors App Short Stories
Should The Elders' Concern and After Sunset: The Right Choice? be added to the Warriors Wiki:Books/grades list? 07:23, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think so....... 07:33, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why they wouldn't. I'll go ahead and do it now. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 14:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, great! 16:24, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Warrior's Refuge ~ Silver Nomination
This nomination is for the Cliffnotes, Gallery, and Main. I've fixed and expanded cliffnotes, expanded main, found references for the cats on cover, and I'm working on the Publication List. 17:17, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good for it only being a manga suummary. Cliffnotes are in order, and the gallery looks complete. I'd say this is a job well done. The publication list looks amazing, too. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 18:11, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The Turkish cover looks kind of blurry. Is it possible to find a better cover? It's ok if it's not; I know how hard it can be to find covers. 18:12, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I suck at covers. :P 18:18, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

So, I've just added the publication history for all the english versions, German, Hellenic, Czech, Turkish, and Romanian. :D I think thats all I needed to do, comments? 18:51, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, forgot Russian. Added. Comments? 18:58, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's fine! 22:07, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Mission of Mercy
Shouldn't there be a page for this? Its the SotM warriors adventure game. I added Uninvited Guests to the grades list, but there isn't a page for this. 19:16, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

If there's no page for it, Misty, you're more then welcome to create one, and I can add it to the table. I'm not familar with the adventure games, so I can't do it myself. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 20:27, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll make one...or try. xD 22:55, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I can help a bit, but, I'm not familiar with the layout of the page. You can try using the others as references... <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 22:58, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! 23:08, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I made the page here, but it still needs major expansion. 08:29, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Btw, the Adventure Game before that, Uninvited Guests, needs just as much major expansion. I'd suggest them as content drives after SkyClan's Destiny is over. 16:45, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Good idea. I'll start seeing what I can do to expand them. I have all the OotS books right now, so I can really work on those. 17:43, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I started expanding all the separate adventures for Uninvited Guests. Does it look ok? 20:11, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it does. Keep it up, and thank you for your hard work. =D <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 20:18, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I bring you amazing news
The name and cover for OotS book 6... I've found it. Look here. Now, don't you all love me? It's called the The Last Hope, and I do believe that is Firestar on the cover. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 18:20, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * You are my lover. <3 18:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

WAIT. That's the same picture as the icon for the Warriors App. I'm sorry, but something smells a little fishy about it, and I'm not talking about RiverClan. 18:45, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Haha, no pun intended, I assume? But it was found on Kate Cary's blog, so wouldn't it be true? It's also on HarperCollins. I can provide that link, too. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 18:50, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Edit: Here's the Harper link. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 18:51, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * She never verified the title nor the cover. Someone posted that on her Facebook wall. Someone could very easily have changed the URL to make it look like HarperCollin's image. It's not available without that link, so, I'm really doubting the legitimacy of the image. 19:01, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Eh, true. But, why would they do that a day before the stuff is supposed to be released? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 19:17, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know. Why do people do anything? Anyway, I think we should just wait to post it until its legitimacy is proven. It won't hurt us. 00:46, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it's official now. I have the author tracker email and all that fun stuff. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 00:50, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Uninvited Guests ~ Silver Nomination
I know it's not even close to silver, but I've been filling in all the adventures, and I'm not going to stop. =D So this is most like a reservation. 23:01, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

It's looking good, Squirrel! Just add the remaining details, and you should be good! <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 23:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I know this is probably a stupid question, but how do you make one of the flowcharts? 00:53, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

It's not a stupid question. It's actually a very good one. I have no clue how to make one, honestly... That's the ONLY PB-related thing I don't know how to do... XD <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 01:18, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Well, maybe you could ask one of the people that made one. In my opinion, that's the only thing Uninvited Guests needs right now. I would contact someone, but you're the leader of PB, so they probably know you better and you'll have a greater chance of replying. XD 01:28, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'll ask Helix about it. And btw, I'm only deputy. Rainlegs is leader, remember? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 01:32, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you seem so active that I've always thought of you as leader! Wow... You learn something new every day! XD 01:34, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad you think that, Squirrel. Thanks. =] I would love to be leader, but I don't want to sound greedy. Anyways, I've sent an email to Helix, and I hope he'll reply. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 01:35, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Cloudsky and all. There is no easy or straightforward way to make the flowcharts. You have to create it manually in an image editor (paint, photoshop, gimp etc) by making little boxes, adding text, then connecting them. I suggest to draft the flowchart on paper, so you could see which would be the best way to arrange the elements in relation to each other. It could take more than 10 drafts to get it right, but don't give up. Once you're satisfied, you can start making it in an image editor. It's difficult, but not impossible. Kind regards, 19:30, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Helix! I've already started making the drafts on paper. It's taking a while, but I'm getting there. Thanks again! 23:30, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Holy crap, that was quick. Thanks, Helix. Now I know for future references. In fact, I'm making sure that what he said goes onto the guidelines. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 02:56, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

I check my mail daily, you know. ;) Yes, it will take a while and to arrange the boxes so that the connections between them would look nice and clean, instead of a chaos of crisscrossing lines. I suggest to number the sections in your draft like "1", "2", "3" etc, then read through the adventure and make a list like "from 1 you can progress to 2 and 5, from 2 you can progress to 1, 3, and 8"... and then try making the draft. It's not easy and will take at least a dozen drafts. Don't worry if you cannot get it right; it is only an optional thing that looks nice, bue doesn't have much use, so it's no big deal if the article does not have one. Take care and kind regards. 10:29, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Do you think the ending can be expanded? 16:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well, no. That's the ending that's on the other ones too and nothing else can be added. Yes, Helix, I've already numbered them 1 to 10, and I think I have a good enough version. I'll work on putting it on the computer now. 17:44, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Just so you guys know, it's going to take a long time. I've only just started adding in arrows, and all the text has to go at the end. Just a heads up! =) 76.200.188.223 19:23, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sign of the Moon- Silver?
I think I did a pretty good job with Sign of the Moon, what do you guys think? I think it's summarized fairly well. 01:04, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, but the Plot Summary should be expanded, and it needs a publication list. Also, take a look at the cliffnotes, as they need to be finsihed. =) <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Li ght 01:14, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it could certainly be expanded. I think you should add more references to the trivia and add another cover to the gallery. I think there's an e-book or something. 02:46, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

So, all the other links need to be ready before the main article can be ready? 13:58, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

E-books don't need covers; none of the books have them in the galleries. E-books just need to be in the publication list. 16:14, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Right, I knew that! ;) But, yes. I'm pretty sure that the other links need to be ready before it can be nominated. 17:47, July 13, 2011 (UTC)