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Willowbreeze (K)- For Approval
Here she is..... Comments? Echostar229 03:37, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink darker/more dull. 03:39, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any silver parts, maybe add some streaks or patches? Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 03:57, March 16, 2011 (UTC) scratch that. Darken the whole thing a tad. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 04:48, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Echostar229 01:31, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:19, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Echostar, you can only have one image up for approval. As of now, you have two; Oakheart and Willowbreeze. I don't know what happens next, another user probably know though. MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well she stopped working on it I think. Echostar, I suggest you put withdrawn by user on Oakheart's image, or we can see if it'll just be declined because the image may not be needed. Oh and brighten the highlights a tad on the image. :3 20:12, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

I did put the words 'Withdrawn' on it, and the image has been removed from the page. I had stopped working on him about a week ago, in case no one noticed my lack of updating him, me starting a new image, and the big words in the title. Oh, and, reuploaded. Echostar229 01:25, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well you never actually specified that you had withdrawn it. So please do so in the future. Add tail shading, add shading to the fore arms, add shading under the chin Night  shine  01:29, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Weird, 'cause it said 'Withdrawn' next to it on my computer before it was archived. The light's coming from the left [her right] so I don't think she would have chin shading. There's also shading on her arms and tail. Echostar229 01:38, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

I was the one that put withdrawn there. There should be shading under the chin since all other kit chararts have that and it makes it look less flat. Darken the shading on the forearms/tail Night  shine  23:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. Reuploaded. Echostar229 00:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Darkhallows... Mew? 04:57, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. 01:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think the shading's gotten worse...... :S Echostar229 03:53, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest.  Mistfire 1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading go all the way across under the chin/ the neck. 22:54, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest and tail. 22:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Go blur crazy! Cardinal fire My fluffy yellow cake!

Thin out the shading on the top of the chest. It needs to round out more, to fit the shape of the chest. --  Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 07:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Will anyone help me with blurring? Echostar229 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken her shading to make her look more like her other chararts up for approval because they are darker than this..Honeybreeze 18:32, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help =) And the colouring is fine; you don't need to fix it. Enlarge the earpink a bit and then blur it --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:31, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest lots.  Mistfire Spring rainfalls  20:22, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/blur that little highlight on the tail tip or lighten if that was shading. 00:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it and reuploaded it for you, Echostar =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:45, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add/lighten the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more even, and center it. 00:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken tail shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten or darken the earpink a tad. 17:02, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I take it you're not working on this anymore since you reserved another. Night shine  00:37, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I haven't reserved another. My grandma just died, so i haven't been able to work on this. Sorry. I'll go reupload this. Echostar229 00:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry! I thought this was Wildheart's image so I put it as withdrawn. I'm really sorry for your loss. Night shine  00:50, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

So sorry! Can I take over? ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 00:59, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Echostar is still working on this. Night shine  01:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still doing this. :S Echostar229 01:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I wonked up the shading again... :S Echostar229 01:22, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

blur the chest shading. 01:23, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a little bit. Night shine  01:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur chest shading LOTS.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:00, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink when you darken it. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:19, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

You might have to re-do this, she looks like a two-toned cat now. 00:47, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It'll be fine as soon as it's blurred and the shading is thinned out on the chest. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:41, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:18, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Its been 9 days...blur the chest highlight. 22:44, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, ah, Mistystar? It can get annoying when people repeat things that have already been stated several times. Ravensoul101 and I were in a car accident, and currently I have my right hand in a cast, and since I'm right-handed, getting on the computer can be hard. I'll try to work on this tomorrow. Echostar229 02:22, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

My mistake; I'm so sorry! I hope you get better soon =) 18:23, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little sloppy. And try to darken it just a tadSandstormrocks32 22:52, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I ended up re-doing it, and I need desperate help with the shading. Can someone help me? Echostar229 02:38, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

I can help. What do you need help with? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:32, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you didn't fill in the area for the ear pink. But other than that it's pretty great! Sandstormrocks32 17:43, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 00:25, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  00:56, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Echo's still working on this. Her comp is having issues, and it won't be fixed for a few more days. @Wildheart- she needs help with blurring the shading, and is wondering if you can help with thinning it out. [She's standing right behind me while I type this, so that's how I know. :P] 03:23, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Is the nose color supposed to be greyish? Sandstormrocks32 23:22, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Um, are Apprentices allowed to comment on other Chararts? Whether they are or not, I'll say this: Darken the earpink a tad. Apart from that, I think it looks great!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:20, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, her nose is black on her apprentice Charart, but maybe all apprentices have black noses. I dunno.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:25, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, apprentices are allowed to comment on chararts lol anyway, I reuploaded it for you, Echo. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:45, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, it obviously didn't work. Reuploading again. }  wild    heart   ~    02:35, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 21:24, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ack. I thought I had uploaded this a week ago. :P Anyway, Re-uploaded. Echostar229 02:43, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ummm... guys, lay off of them a bit, they where in a car crash, its gonna be slow-going for a bit.

Lightningstar

Who was giving them trouble? Nobody's been rushing them since like... /checks. like a months ago. And Lightningstar, sign with four ~s when you're on talk pages. This looks lovely, maybe just make the earpink a bit paler, and make the nose color match the earpink color. Other than that it's great! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:27, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

It looks pretty good, but it's a bit flat. Darken the shading a tad and I think it will be ready (unless someone else notices something o3o). 02:22, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink Sandstormrocks32 17:07, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink neater and more triangular, and blur it. 22:28, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 00:33, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the pelt a bit so it matches her apprentice. This hasn't been updated in a week.Lark That Sings at Dawn 11:08, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

...and? Pixlr's been malfunctioning. It'll probably be a day or two before I reupload. Sorry. Echostar229 23:13, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

There are other programs you can use. Sumopaint is pretty good, I like it better than Pixlr, tbh (I really don't like Pixlr, the blur tool isn't strong enough). Then you could always download GIMP, which is my favorite for coloring. Program or not, if it's not worked on soon it will have to be delcined, and this image is so pretty that I'd hate for that to happen! Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 01:08, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. My parental controls won't let me download gimp, so i tried Sumopaint. I had issues with its blur tool and burn tool, though. It gave me dark flecks on the tail, and when I blurred, it brought up the gray in the center of earpink. :P Echostar229 01:23, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me. CBA? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 02:19, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, not yet. There's some smudges near the ear pink. 22:50, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Left ear. It's kind of hard ot see, though. And also blur the tail shading. It should look more blended. 01:57, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Her left, or ours? Echostar229 14:09, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

I think ours, also you might want to darken the rightside of her face showing more of where the light source is. This looks absolutly amazing, nice job. At el  da  01:31, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I think she's looking pretty good so far! 03:46, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

The tail shading looks kind of blotchy; blur it. 22:49, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Like Mistystar said, blur the tail shading. It looks like it's shaded on one side and dodged on the other. 04:03, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt. W) - For Approval
She was described as a black-and-silver cat in Forest of Secrets on page 15. Comments? 23:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the black on the tail, make the ear-pink a tad smaller and brighten it, darken the shading on the white parts, and brighten the highlights. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:07, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:00, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white areas silver. Smudge the black transition. Add eye colour, blur the ear pink and blur the shading Night  shine  00:03, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:32, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! I like the markings! The silver still looks white, so darken it a lot, and darken the shading as well. Move the ear pink up a bit. 00:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the black near the shoulder area. 01:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Silverstream.warrior.alt.png 02:47, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How do I rename it? And I'll thicken the black later when I have time. 03:44, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rainwillow: Whatever you are using to edit your image, save it, left click, there will be a list of suggestions, rename it Silverstream.warrior.alt, and upload it as a different image and replace the current image with the different one.  Icy 123   ♥  14:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the shading. 16:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the white some more; it still looks white, and not silver. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more centered and blur it. Smudge the black transition. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it still look white? Could somebody help me with the black and the shading? However much I blur the shading, it still looks the same. 11:07, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not to dark, it looks like gray. I would try along the side between white and gray. So its not gray, but its like a light gray, 13:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I can help blur the shading. I'll do it right now, and I can lighten the silver parts like Feathermoon said too. =3 21:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mossy! 10:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... When she was described as black and gray I think they meant she was gray with black stripes, her being a tabby and all. It's like saying Brambleclaw is black and brown... Darkhallows... Mew? 06:17, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Actually she was described as black and silver not black ans gray. XD It didn't say anything about her being a silver-and-black tabby on page fifteen in Forest of Secrets, but I could always fix it. Anyone else who agrees with Darkhallows? 10:25, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I thik that it should stay like this; It isnèt the same kind of thing like ginger cats, they natrally have stripes. Silver and Black cats have never had natral stripes unless listed as tabbys. (Feathermoon but not logged it :3)

Feathermoon, what? A silver and black tabby is very possible. She's a tabby, mentioned as black and silver/ I was thinking that too, but I just never got around to mentioning it. xD Rainwillow silver is a shade of gray, same thing. They never said anything about her being tabby on that page, but she IS tabby. :P 22:09, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...You do have a point there, Mossy. And since she is a tabby, I will agree with Darkhallows. 22:19, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

This (click) is a silver tabby. I would describe that as black and silver. Darkhallows... Mew? 01:17, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

So is it agreed? Should I change this as a silver she-cat cat with black stripes? 04:39, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I belive so. 13:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Blur the shading and haunch highlight. (This is Mintstarr.)98.22.139.18 21:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Considering her main picture is a silver tabby, I don't think she needs an alternate. Darkhallows... Mew? 06:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wait....so is this going to be declined? Frostheart? Night shine? What do you guys think? 11:35, April 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the ear pink smaller. Smudge the transistions more. Make the ear pink more reddish. Brighten the highlights. Fix the lineart on the tail. -- 01:25, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the black more stripey or tabbylike.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  02:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, im not the lead, or deputy, but, I think that Silver-and-black is different from, Silver tabby, Im just an apperentice, so my opion my not mean much, but I still think this should stay up.... Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think this should stay up since black-and-silver is much different than just a silver tabby. -- Night  shine  17:54, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, since it's going to stay up, do I have to change it to a silver cat with black stripes as Darkhallows said? 02:14, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

That's what I would do, but I guess it's up to you, as it didn't specify. Blur the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:53, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Okay, after I read all of these comments, I decided to make Silverstream's alt. image into a silver cat with black stripes. I made the stripes similar to Silverstream's warrior image, so I hope it looks okay. Does the silver still looks white? Mossy, are you still going to help me blur the shading? If not, could somebody help me blur it? 07:20, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 01:06, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * bangs head on desk* I hate myself for making those hard forsaken markings! Anyways... ^^ you missed a few of the markings on her leg from her warrior image, basically on her hind leg and forepaw thats like behind her from our point of view. Also blur and I'll help if Mossy isn't able to. Also don't forget to add in shading and blur the ear pink as well.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:38, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to be blurred as well. The edges of them looked smudged-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:17, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How about now? 01:39, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

The markings on her back still seem a tad blotchy where the black meets the silver :/ what program do you use by chance?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:07, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I use pixlr. The stripes looks fine to me. 02:14, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rainwillow; the stripes look no blotchier then the ones on her regular warrior image. All I would suggest is shrink the big black spot in the middle of her back a tad. 02:44, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes dont mave to match her warriors image because this is an alternate. Someone tried to match the Tigerheart stripes on an alt and someone said they didn't have to match. But if you want to do it like this, you can. 96.51.53.81 03:32, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Re-uploaded. I made the black spot a bit smaller. Does anything else need to be fixed? 08:23, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular because on your picture it shows it where one part of it is full but the other side looks kinda wrong...Honeybreeze 15:28, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, Rainey! Lighten the ear pink and center it. 22:47, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading on the black parts needs to be defined a bit. The grey parts look good! Ivystripe 00:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Re-uploaded. The earpink is horrible! Could somebody help me on it? 04:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Fixed the earpink again with Frostheart's help. Does it look to bright? 04:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. And maybe add some stripes to the back leg farest from us. 23:31, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Anything else? 11:06, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The markings need smudged a little more. Make it flow with her shape. 00:42, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Er, I don't think the markings need to be smudged. That's for two different colored cat. And I if I blur the stripes, it'll look to blotchy. Anybody else agree with Ivystripe? 04:28, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. I also think the markings should be smudged. Darken the shading as well. Night shine  01:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Er, could someone help me smudge the stripes? I'm not very good at that. 11:06, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I could try helping you smudge it, but I don't know if I'm allowed since I'm working on a charart 14:21, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I can help, if you'd like.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:30, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Icestorm is helping me now, but thanks for the offer. 03:39, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, too.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:17, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit. 22:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

If anybody is wondering why I haven't been working on it, it's because Icestorm and me are trying to figure out a way to darken the shading without runing the smudged stripes. 11:52, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I can help with the shading if you want. Night shine  22:46, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

You can? Thanks Nightshine! =D After Icestorm smudges the stripes and uploades it, you can darken the shading. 23:40, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The stripes are smudged now, thanks to Icestorm. Nightshine, you can help me darken the shading now please. 11:11, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

This looks really good! Make the earpink a bit redder and blur it. 16:03, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I tweaked the shading. I had to also get rid of some of the old shading so the stripes are a bit thinner. Night shine  05:46, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nightshine! It looks great! So....comments? =P 12:16, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the front paws and right above the back legs. Other then that it's BEAUTIFUL! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:22, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very pretty *pets Silverstream* Do what Paleclaw said above. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:45, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear color more red Sandstormrocks32 23:11, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:25, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How about now? 12:38, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look really strange. . . the only thing that really makes it look like a classic tabby is the two stripes on its back. If you're having trouble, I could redline it for you. o3o 17:59, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I made this redline of a classic tabby cat, use it if you want to. :3 19:18, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I like ^that^. Blur the shading. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:45, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Someone attacked the page, and removed the image that was up here, and replaced it with something else. I got the page back to what it was before it got edited. I'm sorry if that's not the right image up. -- Cloud skye  18:46, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

You should do the red line one because it does look betterSandstormrocks32 21:53, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

I am using it. I'm just not done with it yet.... 11:17, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''It looks...horrible all over again! (except for the stripes. XD) Anyways...help? 12:39, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great! I like it better than the old one Sandstormrocks32 23:26, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! 23:32, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Does this look any better? 23:53, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Totally, I would blur the stripes just a tad, and make the earpink cover more of the ear, it looks great though. At el  da  01:18, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded How does it look now? 03:07, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge all of the stipes, add shading. Night shine  06:01, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll do it ASAP. 06:03, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Looks awesome! Fill in the white pixel on her haunch. 21:52, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink and make it bigger. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:54, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

You should make the hole body light or brighter. NOT the stripes the stripes are good Sandstormrocks32 15:08, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tweaked it for you, like you asked, Rainy. People: you'll know when the changes are showing when the white pixel on the haunch is gone. }  wild    heart   ~    02:26, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Wildheart! 04:22, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge all of the stripes. Some of them don't look smudged or blurred at all. Add shading/darken the shading. Make the ear pink triangular. Night shine  06:11, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks kind of smudgy. Fix that, and everything else said above. xD 21:56, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Can anybody help me again? 04:21, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

@Nightshine and Mistystar: the changes still aren't showing. But as soon as they are, Rainy, save the image and change the earpink/shading. }  wild    heart   ~    05:40, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Are the changes showing now? 10:46, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 08:40, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 04:00, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it look better? 08:14, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make sure all of the stripes have been smudged. Darken the shading more. Night shine  02:34, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the tail highlight. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:12, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

blur everything a lot then it would look perfect! Sandstormrocks32 01:32, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Add highlights. 20:53, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the haunch, it looks beautiful :) 01:06, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm still working on this, so please be patient. XD 04:20, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the base coat. 23:04, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

It's looks so good! Only, down her tail it goes dark, dark, dark, dark, SUDDENLY REALLY BRIGHT! You should fix that. 02:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

It seems to me like there are too many stripes. She should look silver with black marking, not the other way around. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:55, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how it looks black with silver markings, but. . . if she does take some off, it should be on the legs, chest and belly. Just a tip. 05:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

This is getting confusing....I think it looks good the way it is. But if anybody agrees with Darkhallows, tell me. 05:19, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Darkhallows... But other than that redden the ear ping and blur it 23:18, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't get it! How does it look black with silver stripes? It looks silver with black stripes, unless your talking about the shading. It does look a bit black, but other than that, how does it look like black with silver stripes? 04:20, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. And besides, she was described as a black and silver cat, not a silver tabby with black stripes, so does it really matter? I think the stripes are fine the way they are. 04:37, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, good point. Thanks Iceheart! 12:49, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I checked all of the stripes, and all of them were smudged except for the tail's stripes, so I fixed that. Oh, and I did everything else above, and blurred the shading as much as I could. 13:01, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! If possible, define the shading a bit. 00:09, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try to define it more. 00:56, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to be smudged consistently Night  shine  00:05, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the stripes by her eye, and the ones on her haunch. Blur them at about 100%. 00:59, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the top of her chin and around the mouth a tiny bit.

- ♫Millie♫ <font color="Purple">It’s getting cold outside... 04:37, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The changes aren't showing yet, so be patient. 11:07, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

You can barley see the eyes, and the paws seem a little left out

Whoever left this, please sign with four tildes ( ~ ) and explain how to fix the problems. Don't just point them out =) 01:17, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more pink, and lighten the whole image. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  18:01, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

The changes still aren't showing..... 22:35, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Other than it is a little dark, I think this almost ready for approval. 22:52, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Um, how long does it take for the changes to show? 03:07, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

@Leopardclaw: Do you mean to make the earpink darker or lighter? 11:22, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

I've uploaded this image about two times already. The changes still aren't showing. 10:35, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

add more highlights and blur earpink. Good job. Wild fire  20:50, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! The earpink is kind of blotchy, though. 23:38, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''YES! The changes are finally showing! xD Anyways....Comments? Does the stripes still have to be smudge? -- 10:19, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Why not blur the markings on the haunch? This is beautiful, Rainey! =) <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 21:29, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks Cloudy! Again, the changes aren't showing yet. -_- 10:45, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Are they showing now? If they are, then you might need to blur the chest shading. Awesome job! 22:56, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

They aren't showing yet, but I'll blur the chest shading right now. Oh, and thanks Mistystar! =D 23:05, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I uploaded the image as a new file. Comments? 00:36, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I think the front paws are shaded too much. But other than that... Wow! This is simply amazing! 04:09, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ivypool (W)- For Approval
Here's what I got of her so far! Critique? Ivystripe 02:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Pretty good! Blur the highlights and earpink some more, and add some smaller patches. She also has white paws, so fix that. Lighten the white some more, too, so it doesn't look so gray, and add shading. If all the darker gray is the shading, thin it out. 02:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Dont make the highlights so bright. 02:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and lighten the silver fur. -- 02:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Extend the highlights on the forelegs, brighten the highlight on the gray part of her forehead, darken the ear-pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:13, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I had a feeling I made the shading too dark. By the way, I got the ear pink from her apprentice image, so I thought that should be right? If not, oh well Ivystripe 16:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Make her white where you had the gray (like her apprentice image). Darken the ear pink to a darker colour. Also whiten her paws and where was the tail-tip from? I'll need to check her charart at the moment E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:41, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened the ear pink, lightened the shading, tried to add more light parts to the legs. Ivystripe 19:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Lighten the whole thing up, it looks too grey. 19:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I uploaded the fixed version but it's not showing. This isn't right....Ivystripe 19:54, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Make the highlights bigger and make the earpink more triangle-shaped. 19:56, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Stunning! blur the highlights a tad, and lighten the white, to make it look, whiter....(<FAIL WORD DX) there seems to be a lighter part on her legs, IDK what it is, so blur it out, if its highlight, its dosen't go there Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:25, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Make the highlights more visible, and blur them. 23:08, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the gray a lot, and smudge the patches too. And the stripes looks different. . . also the big patch on her back doesn't make sense with the markings on her apprentice charart. And she had a gray patch on her chest. 01:31, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great so far! Center the earpink and make it more trinagular. 04:48, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I can update this at home, but for some odd reason it won't let me type, so I can't say when I re-upload it. Please be patient with me. I looked at her kit image to get her spots the way they are. What's different about the stripes? Do you mean that I should make them thicker, thinner...? Ivystripe 16:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Completely redid the spots and stripes, lightened her silver/grey color, and fixed the ear pink. Ivystripe 19:59, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The markings still don't work. Here she has one huge patch on her back, but on her apprentice image she has two patches on her back. 23:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

But also, that's her other side. I looked at her kit image to help her with the reverse side. If I reversed this warrior image of her, THEN I'd need to use those exact markings. 23:20, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you need to add the chest patch because on her apprentice charart it comes over to this side of her. Also, the edge of the patch on her chest is kind of sharp. Make it a little rounder and more natural. Brighten the shoulder highlight and make the earpink a little more red. Darken the tail shading as well. 23:48, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, I see. Lemme go fix that really quick... 23:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:06, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

It's her other side, but the patches aren't attached and they can't randomly go from unattached to attached. 01:28, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I referenced off her kit image as well, and that's how I percieved it. Do you think maybe you could redline what you mean? I'm just not sure exactly what you're envisioning 209.34.114.210 13:56, April 7, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed it]

The shape of the patches doesn't have to be the way I drew it, it just needs the space between them. Smudge her patches a lot more too. 07:15, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I hope this looks alright. 19:59, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Oh! You didn't have to change the patches' shape, just put a space between them. :P 21:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think it looks better, but it still doesn't look right though. I might need to smudge it more.... 21:12, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the patches so they match her apprentice image and blur the shading. 04:29, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

No, it would make it much darker than in her apprentce image. I picked the colors off her charart. 11:29, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 11:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights and darken the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  15:03, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

This is great, Ivystripe! Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:44, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, it looks kinda lumpy. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:35, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 01:18, April 11, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur the shading; the white is a bit too inconsistant. The patches are beautiful! --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:33, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I cannot blur the shading any more, all I can do is smudge it. No matter how much I smudge it, it just never looks right to me :/ 01:38, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink some. I can help with the shading if you want... =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:42, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:07, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Lighten or redden the earpink, and blur it. 22:09, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:22, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Neck shading needs to be blurred, so does the leg shading. The earpink needs to be changed, brighter or darker, not too sure. And there is some kind of color outside the lines. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  01:59, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

And you might want to blur the edges of the markings a bit. They look a little too smudgy. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:48, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Man I hope this is finally the right earpink color 21:14, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Sadly, no, I don't think it is. Use the apprentice tutorials to find the right one. some of the highlights look blotchy. And there is still some gray outside the image which needs to removed. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:16, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, this looks great! Just make the ear pink redder. 23:33, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid the ear pink entirely, tried erasing the shadows outside the outline, and I tried to blue the shading some more. 19:42, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

I feel mean saying this, but the earpink is too neonish. And the highlights could be blurred some. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  20:35, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

I took it from the apprentice tutorial like I was told to do. If this isn't right then I don't know what color to make it :/ 00:16, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah lighten the earpink a bit. Maybe dodge it on like 5% and then colourpick it and redo the earpink. The charts aren't exactly accurate. They're just guides =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:37, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Still don't think this ear pink color is quite right. 00:22, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit paler. Maybe take from Mistystar's leader charart? --> <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:34, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 14:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around the charart 17:14, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And make the earpink bigger  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   21:32, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the ear-pink a tad. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 23:39, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Define the gray patches, it blends too much with the shading. Night shine  22:45, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

''Note: I am having some computer issues at the moment, but I am going to try saving the xcf. file to a flash drive and working on this at school. This shouldn't take long until I can reupload this ''71.72.151.61 22:55, April 19, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Looks perfect! :)Sandstormrocks32 23:15, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

This. Is. Beautiful. Ivystripe. Blur the earpink just a teeny bit.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:05, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

The smudging on the two patches on her back looks a bit messy, and make the ear pink larger and a bit lighter. 17:56, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Hopefully the rest of the waste around the lineart is finally taken care of! 00:12, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Neaten up the edges of the tabby patches and brighten the earpink a tad. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:48, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:40, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/add shading to the tail. This looks great! 16:05, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thin out the neck shading, blur the earpink, and erase the waste around the charart. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:58, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see the waste around the charart. Could somebody help me fix that? Or, at least, where is the waste at? I can't see it. 209.34.114.210 13:30, April 26, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Reuploaded Did all suggestions, tried getting rid of the waste...I thinned out the neck shading, but now her neck is bothering me. Does anyone else see that? 19:57, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it might just be my home computer. It looks fine at school, but her shading doesn't match her apprentice shading...should I try lightening the shading or leave it as is? [Ivystripe not signed in]

Yeah the neck shading could be blurred a bit. The shading doesn't have to match =) just the markings.  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫    01:29, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried blurring the shading as much as I could, but it looks to me it could still use more. 13:35, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I love it! Sandstormrocks32 23:12, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

The patches really need to be defined against the shading. Lighten the shading where it's the most dark. Night shine  00:52, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I had to redo the neck shading since I couldn't save it on my computer, but I went ahead and lightened it. Does the redone neck shading look okay? 13:41, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yup. Could be a bit thinner, though. Brighten the earpink and then blur it so it's smoother. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:02, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 16:24, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes look more like her apprentice's image and make the earpink a tad smaller. 20:06, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

But on her apprentice image they are on the other side, I tried copying from both the apprentice and kit images, keeping both in mind. [Ivystripe not signed in] 65.31.51.134 22:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't mean like totally match up, I just meant the style of the stripes. :P 22:34, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

But I don't see how they're not similar...? [Ivystripe not signed in] 65.31.51.134 00:14, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

They look fine. Don't change anything. }  wild    heart   ~    01:56, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, well what about the ear pink? Do you agree that needs to be smaller? [Ivystripe not signed in] 209.34.114.210 14:26, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, a bit. And maybe redraw the earpink because it looks a little bit too blurred right now. I meant don't change the stripes :3 'cause they're bootiful haha   }   wild    heart   ~    03:24, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid the earpink, I don't know if the changes are showing yet because of wiki uploading problems. 16:35, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well can you at least define the stripes? :P 21:04, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand how they look wrong though...do you mean darken them? I got the stripe color off the kit image. [Ivystripe not signed in] 71.64.142.101 22:44, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around the charart. 00:45, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Umm can you tell me where? I double checked around all the lines and I don't see any [Ivystripe not signed in]

Yes I meant darken them. Make them stand out more. :3 20:31, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Mmk defined stripes, I also added a tad more shading to the tail. I still can't see any waste around the charart. 21:15, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Any suggestions? 01:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the white areas a bit. Define the patches a little more. Night shine  02:33, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 16:34, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

The only shading I see is on the back. The white areas seem to grayish. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:14, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

But I've been told to lighten it to this point, and her apprentice image looks like it hardly has any. I liked how it was before, but it has to match. 22:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

The more I look at this, the more I hate it. I might redo her fur, patches, and stripes, and just keep the shading. 23:11, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, instead of redoing this, can somebody help me fix the patches? I just don't think the color is right... 16:47, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I can help, if you'd like =) 23:16, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

What do you think needs to be fixed? 23:18, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

The patches just don't seem to match her other images. 23:57, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks to Wildheart :3 Thanks! 01:48, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

looks great! but darken the shading Sandstormrocks32 00:21, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, that looks awesome! But I think you should change the tabby stripes to spots, then blur them gently. That'll make it match the apprentice. Petalwhisker  Oh yeah, oh yeah...  00:45, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

I think its perfect just blur the earpink Wild  fire  20:43, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, I wouldn't change the tabby stripes. They're beautiful, and they match the apprentice version as well as they can without having seen that side of Ivypool. (I don't count the kit version, 'cause it doesn't match the apprentice version very well at all.) 23:22, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh god, I have to say her apprentice image is my least favorite out of all of my chararts. I think I abandoned it or withdrew it and it got accepted anyway. Honestly, I'd take out the furry pattern and leave the stripes the way they are. The apprentice image can be re-done in tweak week. Would that be OK with everyone? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:58, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Furry pattern? You mean the smudgies...? XD 04:02, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten her tail a little bit Sandstormrocks32 17:10, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

So, do I need to redo the patches then? 23:32, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so. Why change a perfect image? ;) 22:24, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Mmk, well does anybody else agree with Sandstormrocks that the shading is too light? I have a difficult time seeing much shading on white cats in the first place. 00:21, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe darken the base shading's opacity like 1% but it looks pretty good to me. 03:00, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine. If you try to change it, it could look worse. 13:14, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ok well I asked Nightshine to get another opinion. Honestly, I don't see much more I can do. 16:52, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

There is blurred lineart on the right foreleg and the forehead. Nice job Ivystripe! <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:45, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 22:14, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Its wonderful! Just make the earpink a bit smaller, and it'll be perfect! 00:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think it's showing right now 00:21, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely :3 I think its good. :D 00:23, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps make the earpink more consistant, like just spread it out more, and then you might just want to blur the edge of the spots because it looks like the smudges draw too much attention but that may just be me XD. This looks amazing! Good job! At el  da  01:56, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

The smudging on the patches looks very strange. . . as though she's prickly like a porcupine. xD And they look too dark. 04:57, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Other than the earpink issue that was already noted, I see nothing wrong. Lovely job =) 23:50, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Tried to not blur the smudged patches too much, just enough to not draw too much attention to them. Made ear pink bigger. Lightened patches. Still think the stripes need to be darker but I'm having a hard time doing that without effing up the image. 00:57, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink 00:18, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Just define the earpink, as Iceheart said. Other than that, it's beautiful! 02:02, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

You've come a long way Ivystripe! Just blur the stripes a tad and it will be ready! <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  02:05, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks guys :) I don't think the image is showing up, even the last time I uploaded it, so look at the full view just to make sure. 21:55, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you've got blurred lineart all the way around the cat; fix that. 22:54, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

I don't remember ever doing that...ugh must be this computer I'm on (my other one is unfixable right now). 71.72.157.130 14:22, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I see what happened. Reuploaded 14:40, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Much better =) Define the earpink a tad. 23:43, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:48, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

She's looking great! 23:52, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, she is. :D Maybe make the earpink a bit easier to see? 00:31, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken those patches on her 23:33, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

@Sandstormrocks, I've done that in the past and numerous people have told me to make them like this, so I'm not going to change it. @Mistystar, what do you mean? Should I change the color a little bit, or do you mean define it? 14:32, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

No, then color is fine. Just define it, since currently, the whole ear looks kind of pink. 22:58, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Mmk, does it look better now? :D 02:36, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

''Oh, by the way, please try to get comments in this weekend. I go to my mom's during the weeks now, and as of now, she has no Internet, and I won't be able to edit until Friday. Not trying to sound demanding or anything, just letting you know''. 01:20, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Brook (KM)- For Approval
Comments? Ravensoul101 02:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger nad lighten it. Darken the shading and blur it. Darken the nose colour. Smudge the markings. Night shine  02:43, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Move the white pixel in her left eye, it makes her look kind of cross-eyed. Brighten the highlights a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:15, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Make it a darker colour. Also make the ear pink not reach to the tip of her fur. Even up the fur. E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:38, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

The markings on her flank could be smudged a little. Ivystripe 19:55, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Add shading under the chin and to the bends in her joints. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, darken it and make it triangular. 01:59, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes. 07:10, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a little cross eyed. 21:47, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a bit. 04:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't change the eyes, mainly because it's the same eye pattern that's on almost every queen. You guys must of been mistaking the gray for the white. Because of that, I darkened them a little. BTW, you don't have to repeat things. It can get annoying. Ravensoul101 15:07, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink/make it more visible. The stripes on the top of head head are blurry and messy. 17:58, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder. 22:05, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her back. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:10, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too greenish. Fix it, please. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:18, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticable and blur it. 23:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:39, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I'm currently in the hospital, recovering from a car accident. I won't be able to reupload anything until tomorrow, though, since my computer time is very limited. Ravensoul101 02:19, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ouch, get well soon! And blur the highlights. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:08, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more dark. Other then that it's a great charart of brook as a kit motherSandstormrocks32 23:17, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Could someone help me a tad with the blurring for the shading? Ravensoul101 02:26, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

I can, if you'd like. I can also blur the stripes a little while I'm at it.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:53, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the base coat, make the ear pink more visible and I think this will be ready! 17:55, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and change the pupils; right now she looks cross-eyed haha... wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:51, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink and fix the eyes. 23:12, April 27, 2011 (UTC)\

Please work on this or it will be declined Night  shine  00:50, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Raven's still working on this. His comp is having issues again, and it'll be a day or two before its fixed. 03:20, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

I can't work on this anymore. I just don't have time between school and my injury. Sorry. Ravensoul101 13:22, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I can take over. 13:23, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, fix the eyes, blur the shading and darken it, and define the earpink a bit. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:05, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, lighten it or redden it, darken and fix the eyes, and everything Wildheart said above. XD 21:28, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Just plain darken the earpink, mostly. I think it's nearly red enough. There's some gray lineart on the front paw furthest from us. It's some of the paw detail. Blur the shading on her back.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:01, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 18:02, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes don't match up with her warrior and loner images. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:17, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

They do. They're just a tiny bit larger. 01:11, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink and make the stripes smaller. }  wild    heart   ~    02:42, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly. 01:31, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think there's supposed to be mud on this, since its a kit-mother. 20:50, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 23:56, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. I'm re-doing her, and pixlr's been acting up... It'll be a few more days before I re-upload. Sorry. :P 03:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

As I mentioned up at the top, we really can't wait that long. It's been awhile and this will be declined soon. There are other sites (Sumopaint to name one) that will do. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 09:26, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done. I re-did her. Sumopaint tried to download a virus on my computer when I opened it, so I stuck with pixlr. 15:11, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

The chages aren't showing; so bare with me. If you look at the image's page, the new version is right below what it claims is the newest version. 15:47, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Gah I know, mine isn't either! The mud streaks don't look like the right color, make them darker but not the same color as her stripes. 01:04, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I took all the colors from her prey-hunter version. 01:54, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well I don't think the mud is right on her prey-hunter version. The stripes look fine, just not the mud, it will look better if it's darker. 23:50, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm going to wait to see if anyone else agrees. 00:43, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Its hard to tell the difference between the mud and the stripes, so yeah, I agree :P 22:53, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think I agree too. I love the eyes, though, they look great. 00:00, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail just a bit. 02:04, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticable - largen it. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  08:00, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 14:28, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the edge of the belly a tad, Looks great Rainlegs! :3 01:57, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Whoop! The changes weren't showing. I reuploaded again, so the one labled 'Blurred tail shading, fixed earpink, etc.' is the newer one. Sorry for the confusion. 01:59, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest a bit. 03:49, May 30, 2011 (UTC)\

Add shading to the tail.

There is shading on the tail. Do you want me to darken it? Also, remember to sign with 4 ~'s. 00:45, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 23:39, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Is there some mixed stripe in the earpink? If not, define it like Mistystar said =) 23:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'll do that asap. However, I just came down with Walking Pneumonia, and an ear infection. I may not be able to update this for a few days. 22:46, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hope you get well soon! 23:04, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Since Frostheart agreed.. I decided to do it. I admit, this is the first one I've done from scratch. So, comments anyone? Cloud skye  16:46, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt color lighter and more brown. Make the earpink smaller and get rid of the blurred lineart on the ear. 20:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the highlights that leaked onto the lineart on the tail. 00:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. . . how do you not do a charart from scratch? o.o Anyways, the highlights are a but too bright and the ear pink is too big. 01:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means not having to copy the pattern of stripes or color from a previous charart of the same character. XD Anyways, nice job! Maybe make it just slightly closer to Sasha's color. Looks a bit too orange in my opinion right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Paleclaw, that's exactly right. And what I did was I used Sasha's coloring, since it says she's a tawny, but I darkened it ever so slightly. Re-uploaded. Does it look any better? As for the ear pink, I took it directly off of Sasha's rogue image, so I hope it works. Cloud skye  19:02, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights on the chest, haunch and tail; they are way too bright. 19:24, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and darken them. 20:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Cloudy! Center the earpink. 04:49, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Highlights darkened, blured and ear pink fixed. Comments? Cloud skye  12:40, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading, make the ear pink a little smaller. Night shine  01:00, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a tad more and add a clearer highlight to the top of the tail. 02:03, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Back shading blurred, ear pink fixed and I added a highlight to the tail. Cloud skye  12:47, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/lighten where the shading meets the highlights by the haunch on the back. 02:48, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading and darken highlights.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:12, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I suck at this, honestly. But does it look better? Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 18:25, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights have been blurred too much. Sometimes that happens; they get discoloured. You may want to choose a lighter shade of your pelt colour and pencil it over the highlights, then blur that, but right now they're turning greeny-gray XD --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

This is what happens when people tell me to blur to damn much. I'm just going to re-do this. Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 12:34, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I re-did the image. Jeez, this is an annoying color to work with. Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 12:58, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. 22:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm having ear pink issues. but anyways, Re-uploaded. Does it look any better at all? -- Cloud skye  12:46, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess. I can fix it for you if you want... 20:35, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the highlights and thin out the shading on the chest. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:42, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and if this is the tawny alternate, make this a little warmer in tone. Maybe a bit more yellowy-orange-ish. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:43, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

I took the color straight from Sasha, who is tawny colored. Re-uploaded. -- Cloud skye  16:06, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't look like Sasha's colour anymore. It looks like a sickly light brown. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   05:07, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm losing my mind trying to get this right. I re-did it, and this time, there is almost no shading. I had to darken my highlights though. -- Cloud skye  12:59, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart is a boy. Darken the ear pink. 19:53, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Not a boy, a tom. :P And the ear pink could be smaller. 22:31, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

And blurred. Where's your light source? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   23:49, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'm worried...bluefur and oakheart are both she-cats now, and they had kits....im really scared, change th gender from a she-cat to a tom. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 09:45, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink triangular and even. 17:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the lineart. I wasn't paying attention wehen I opened up the file. I fixed it and I'm working on the ear pink now. I'll have it up momentarily. -- Cloud <span style="color:#6C2DC7; font-size: 75%; font-family:Lucida Handwriting">skye 13:34, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Gender issue fixed and ear pink fixed. I was working on a laptop without a mouse when I did it the first time, so I had to re-do it. -- Cloud skye  16:18, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! The earpink still is hard to see. Darken it. 16:54, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit and darken the earpink.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:28, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Highlights/ear pink darkened. I won't darken the highlights anymore, because then it won't look like there is any there. -- Cloud skye  17:43, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The highlight on the shoulder looks like it's too high. Maybe move it down a bit if possible. And the ear looks like it either wasn't shaded, or it has a highlight on it, and I don't think there should be, so darken that. Otherwise, this looks GREAT! :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:07, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I fixed it. Does it look better? -- Cloud skye  12:26, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink more.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:51, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I won't darken it anymore. It'll turn purpleish. I think it's too dark to begin with, but, eh. Oh, well. -- Cloud skye  16:22, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and shading/highlights. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:56, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ear pink blured and shading/highlights. -- Cloud skye  17:21, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the pelt colour around the earpink and enlarge the highlights/thin out the shading. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   01:03, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Around the ear pink? Okay. I did what I could, although I don't really understand what you want done. Re-uploaded anyways. -- Cloud skye  19:06, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 22:32, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay. Better? -- Cloud skye  17:40, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Blur the shading. 23:23, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the earpink a tad more. 00:26, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay. I've blurred the shading about as much as Photoshop'll let me without killing the lineart. As for the ear pink, I also blurred it, but not a whole lot. -- Cloud skye  16:31, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. I don't see a light source in this. -- Night  shine  00:49, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Shrink the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and fix the eye lineart. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:08, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Whoops. I thought I fixed that. Sorry. As for light source, I really don't get what you mean. (*is confused*), and I shrunk the earpink as well.Re-uploaded -- Cloud skye  17:28, May 2, 2011 (UTC) I like the highlights--Sandstormrocks32 23:00, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno if the changes aren't showing or what, but the eyes still have two extra pixels. Check out an approved pic for a resource. Blur the shading/highlights. A light source helps you to gfigure out where your shading and highlights should go. In this case, you don't really have one, so your shading/highlights don't make a whol lot of sense. They're not terrible, but they're not exactly sensical either. I would recommend using this guide for shading. It always works for me. }  wild    heart   ~     01:54, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I started over, and used Nightshine's tutorial on shading. Does it look better? I must say, I really understand it a whole lot more since I read that. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 18:29, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, the changes aren't showing up on the page, but the actual file does show what I did. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 18:10, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

It looks a lot better :D Blur the highlights. 21:53, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks! I blurred what I could, and I also enlarged the ear pink every so slightly. It looked like nothing was there. xD -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:32, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the red waste around the fuzzy part of his chest. -- 16:28, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Blur the earpink and the shading/highlights. }  wild    heart   ~     01:26, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

@ Ivystripe: There is no red waste. I zoomed and everything, but I didn't see anything. And Re-uploaded. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well then it might just be my computer...-- 16:50, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and define the earpink a tad -- 16:52, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it look better now? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 17:06, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

This is too creamy, not tawny. And the highlights are blotchy. Oh, and if I mess up the page with this page, sorry, but my computer is messing up :P. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:23, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest taking the tawny color from one of the tawny alts, such as Birchfall, or Tawnypelt. 22:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's still red waste. I can see it. I'll fix it for you, if you want. And do not take the tawny colour from Tawnypelt's alt. She is WAY too ginger, but nobody corrected it because Bramble approved it without the CBA process. Blur the shading significantly. My offer still stands. }  wild    heart   ~     02:52, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about the "offer" comment. I offered to blur a charart for somebody, and I thought it was you, but apparently not haha.... Anyway, I'll blur it for you if you'd like. }  wild    heart   ~     03:00, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart, please. HELP. I'm having so many issues with this cat, but I'm not thinking of withdrawing it. I'd rather get help instead of messing it up even more. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 12:20, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get right on it. Do you use layers? If so, please email me the image (my email is on my userpage), and I'll do it that way. If not, I'll just download the image myself, and fix it as it is. 01:58, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ...I got bored XD I had to tweak the shading and highlights to get them to match in intensity, so I didn't just blur. I hope you don't mind. 04:26, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! It looks wonderful. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 12:50, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I'm glad I could help! =) 06:56, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

This doesn't look tawny anymore. It's more of a cream colour now. Make it more tawny-ish. Other than that, the shading and ear pink are perfect. -- Night  shine  21:24, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

If I change the pelt color, it'll ruin what Wildheart did. I'd have to re-do the image. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 13:26, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

You could colourize it, I suppose. 02:57, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Colourize? English please. Honestly, I think it looks fine, considering it looks very similar to Sasha's, and she's a tawny, according to the article. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 17:16, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever program you use, there should be an option to make your brush opaque. That's the way I'd do it, but I don't know if it would throw off the shading. -- 23:10, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Cloudskye told me to tell you guys that she won't be able to work on Oakheart's alt. image until it was Monday at where she lives. 11:57, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Rainey. As she said, I wasn't able to work on it. I was ill. But, now, I'm somewhat better. Re-uploaded. Does it look better? I tried to fix it the best I could without killing the shading. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:41, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmmm what program do you use? If you use gimp, there's a VERY simple way to fix the color without doing anything to the shading, and if you don't, I could help you out. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:26, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest more. Wild fire  12:03, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Paleclaw, I use Photoshop. The school's computers have them, so... -- ◄ Shattered ƒlamε ► ♫  Sin   With   A   Grin   ♫ 12:24, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I see waste around the top part of his tail, and this time I don't think it's my computer. -- 23:52, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

No. You're not seeing things. I know it's there, and I'm going to fix it when I get back to school. I don't have an image editor on my home computer, and I refuse to use Pixlr. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 00:02, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded... Eh. (Changes may not show for a bit) <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 18:12, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what photoshop can do honestly, I've never used it. But I could help you change the color if you want. If you gave me a color I could try and match it best I could and it wouldn't do anything to the shading. :) If you don't want me to help that's perfectly fine too though. ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 19:51, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the neck. 02:06, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

@ Paleclaw: Thanks for the offer, and I'll take you up on it. Photoshop is a image editing program, but you have to pay for it. That's how I usually work on my images. Try and make the color match something like #c9a36d. It's obvious the pelt color is too light, and that hex color I picked looks okay. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 22:42, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

MAake the ear pink more apink and slightly larger. Also, possibly blur the shading slightly. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  08:18, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink around the top part of it. -- 15:46, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded for you. Is that good? I can change it more if you want. The only problem that happened was the earpink color got changed a bit too, so you MIGHT wanna change it if you don't like it as this color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥

I dunno it looks kind of weird now... too dark and gray-ish. If you're still working on this for Cloudskye, Paleclaw, maybe you should change it to be bit redder. 00:39, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded again - I reddened it a bit, but the changes aren't showing. If you wanna see it, go to the image page and the picture right below the current one is the real image. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 02:52, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I like it better =) Very pretty. I see nothing wrong. 03:55, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Paleclaw... Thanks! It looks amazing!!!! <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 12:19, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful. :D Maybe the earpink could be a bit neater, but other than that, its perfect! 00:22, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

No problem at all. ^^ Glad I could help. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:56, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Umm, do I have to fix the ear pink? I really don't want to tamper with what's already there. And Nightshine said a while ago that the ear pink was good - and I haven't touched it since then. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 12:45, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, well Nightshine's the leader, and the Clan Leader's word is law xD Otherwise, I think its ready! 23:00, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Just blur the shading some more and this will be ready. 19:52, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval
My first image! Anyways, comments? 12:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights Crystalstar999 15:10, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the little shading outline lots, add highlights to the back, head and tail, add shading to the legs. 19:34, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

There is shading on the legs xD Nevermind! But you know what I mean XD 19:36, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Blur the highlights, redden, enlarge and center the ear pink. 22:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and title this Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval...nvm, I'll do it XD 22:11, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the ear-pink, and add a highlight to his face. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:54, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the neck and belly and thicken it. Fix the blurred ear lineart. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:02, April 7, 2011 (UTC

With request from Willow, I am going to help with this image. ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 11:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 04:35, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading tons, add highlights, and enlarge earpink.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading Night  shine  00:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:14, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I can work on it now. Thanks anyways Yatz. BTW Can somebody give me a color for the earpink? 12:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

You can use this chart to determine the earpink colour:  15:34, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

and blur the highlights. 00:02, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the neck and the belly and blur it. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and blur it tons. 20:00, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Could somebody help me on this? Because I'm confused. Some people said to darken the shading and then suddenly another person says to lighten it. 10:39, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say lighten it, but if you followed this guide for shading the image would be a lot better =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   00:04, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

you can also blur the shading so that it flows from light to dark/ light to dark. Also redden the ear pink just a tad, if your not scrutinizing it, then it can disappear to the viewer. Amazing work Willowwhisper! (and great name!) <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 23:06, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Atelda! =) Could anybody help me fix the shading? I tried it, and it looked horrible. 11:49, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help with the shading. Night shine  22:30, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I tweaked the shading and ear pink. Night shine  22:38, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nightshine! It looks awesome! 03:08, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the shading a bit. 19:10, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:02, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Should I sill blur the shading more? 10:34, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Willow! 10:52, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, blur the shading a bit more, as well as the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:03, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Sorry I haven't been able to work on this. My grandma died suddenly a few days ago, and now my dad is at the hopital because of a car accident. Anyways...comments? 12:09, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Why does everybody on this wiki have bad luck? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:11, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good the only thing is you might want to make the earpink smaller and blur it more Wild  fire  01:46, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I keep blurring the shading, but it doesn't look any different! Can someone help me on it again? 11:20, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'll blur it for you! 20:44, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I re-uploaded it for you, but the changes might not be showing yet. 21:00, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, my computer isn't working very well. Here it is with the shading blurred. 21:10, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be a tad bit brighter 00:21, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the ear pink needs to be a bit darker. If you lighten it then it will be even harder to see. Smudge the shading all around. Darken the shading. Night shine  00:47, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

You should also add a little shading to the tail, otherwise it looks great At  el  da  03:12, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

So...let me get this straight. Darken the shading,darken the earpink, and smudge the shading. Is that right? 11:03, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

LOOKS AWESOME! Apart from the fact that I can barely see the earpink. Darken that a tad, Willowwhisper. Darken the eye colour a tad, too. Only a tiny bit. It's a TINY bit more pale than before, and it had a hint of green to it and my first glance. Take a look at my first Charart(for PCA). It's Stormfur's prey hunter image. Mine sucks!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:13, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Don't critisize your own charart XD And define the earpink. 22:48, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How does it look? 11:51, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton and blur the earpink. :3 20:27, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred it as much as I could. 08:43, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the ear and right side of the head. Do you need help blurring the shading? Because it is still sorely in need of blurring. }  wild    heart   ~    05:12, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

If there are highlights, they are blotchy and need to be blurred and brightened. The shading needs to be blurred too. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:28, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the shading needs to be really blurred. The earpink should be a little smaller and lighter. 20:45, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Argh! I need help again. Please? 11:36, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I help you blur it if you add the shading first. Do you use GIMP or pixlr? 06:59, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

If you need blurring help, I can do it for you. 02:44, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I use pixlr, and I did add shading.... 08:32, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights looks sort of odd and blur the ear pink 23:14, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Go blur crazy with the highlights. They stick out a lot.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:28, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I did blur crazy. It didn't work. -_- Help? 13:02, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Would you like me to blur in photoshop for you? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 17:14, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Did you change the opacity on your blur tool? I think if you put it to 100%, it should help blur it more. I use GIMP so I'm not sure if it's different for Photoshop. 22:17, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah as said before with the blurring and maybe to help stop it sticking out maybe lighten it. I'm not sure if that would work...Lark That Sings at Dawn 11:13, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yes please Cloudskye! 14:00, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Willow, I'm working on your image now. I kinda had to lighten the shading too, in order for me to work with it. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:30, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I tried my best to fix the shading, Willow, but I couldn't lighten it all the way without killing what you already had up there. If someone else wants to finish what I started, please do so. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:46, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I use Adobe Photoshop. Is the head highlight supposed to cover the whole head? 'couse, right now, to me, it looks like he's wearing a pale mask. The haunch highlight is a bit too wide and messy-looking to me, too. And lighten the earpink a tad. I'll do all that(except earpink adjustement) on Adobe Photoshop, and put another version at the bottom of Whiskernose's section in with my next post, if you'd like.(Look, I'm an Apprentice of this Project, so I don't want to kill your good Charart altogether and mess it up by replacing the Charart at the top of this section).- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:03, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Kittycat, don't upload a new image. Reupload your edited version of the image over the image ^up there^ and if they don't like it, they can revert the edit on the file. 207.81.88.82 22:58, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry, that was me. 23:02, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Why the hell did I think I could fix it?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:49, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be blurred big time! 02:08, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

I can blur it if you'd like. I assume the changes aren't showing? It doesn't look any different from the last time you reuploaded it. 05:21, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm surprise this hasn't been declined yet, since I haven't worked on it a lot....anyways, thanks Kitty! @Widheart: Please help me blur it! When you're done, tell me, and I'll take over. 10:55, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it for you =) 03:20, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, it looks much better with the blurring you gave it, Wildheart.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 07:42, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

OMG! Thank you so much Wildheart! 11:55, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lol no problem. I'm glad you like it. @Kittycat - maybe it's just the tools you were using? 00:42, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! define the earpink. 00:18, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Cloud With Star in Belly-For Approval
Comments? 21:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... This is supposed to be up in the "Images Pending Aproval" section, not the discussion area. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 17:36, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved this for you. I think you shold blur the shading down his back a more. Leopardclawxx 19:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little bit, it kinda extends below the ear a little bit. Make it a tad bit smaller 19:27, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Cloud (Star).elder.png. Cloud (Storm) and Cloud (Star) are not the same cats. 19:40, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, actually, they are. Think about it. The Erins wouldn't make a Tribe elder with a name so similar to another Tribe elders' name from a different book. I'm sure it was just a typo. - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, I just read the article in the discussion section XP - G  inger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:08, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, one of the good ol' characters. This is however, wonderful. Make the ear pink a bit more...well, matching the gray pelt. Add shading to the chest and forehead. And, add shading around the haunch if you aren't going to add highlights. -- 02:20, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * The heading should also be changed, just so people don't get confused. XP I agree that Cloud with Star in Belly is a different cat from Cloud with Storm in Belly, and besides, if it wasn't this would be declined. Cloud with Storm in Belly already has an elder image. Darken the shading just slightly. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. 09:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is thick and blotchy, thin it out and blur it, and make the ear pink fit the ear, it's a bit messy. 17:38, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the shading thinner, add some to the chest, legs, muzzle, and paws. -- 19:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Redo the entire image because it would be easier, and use the apprentice tutorials to help you. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  02:09, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ummm..guys, if you looked on the table, you would see that I already reserved this. Whats going on?
 * 19:47, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lightningstar, you did have this reserved. But you reserved it on the same day this was put up. I say this be declined and you work on it, but its up to the senior warrirors. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  22:07, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 19:47, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lightningstar, you did have this reserved. But you reserved it on the same day this was put up. I say this be declined and you work on it, but its up to the senior warrirors. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  22:07, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... who reserved it first? Because it goes to them. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   00:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well... I think i reserved t, did the charart, put it up, got off of my comp. and then whoever did the charart uploaded it and didnt see if anyome reserved it. 18:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I looked through the edit history and The Gost actually reserved it first. Sorry Lightningstar. Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  22:17, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 08:49, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:34, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 19:26, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ummmmmmmmmm, no, they did Cloud with STORM in belly ALT. ELDER. I did this.

20:15, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, since they are different cats, there should be one for each, since they were both mentioned as pale gray. 16:37, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Cloud With Storm in Belly was described as white. Try to make the earpink more triangular. 21:06, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink a tad more too. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:35, April 19, 2011 (UTC) URGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!! Who is doing this, me or them???????? LightningStar of ThunderClan (not logged in) XD

The Gost is doing this one, sorry. Night shine  00:08, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink also looks a tad unnatural. I mean like shade it in the direction of the ear and it goes a tad to far down. when you smudge or blur the earpink make sure you get the bottem, and smudge it to the tip of the ear. otherwise great job, love it! At el  da  01:34, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Two things

1. I put this up FIRST, and that is My image.

2.The Gost is doing Cloud with STORM in Belly Alt.E, not Cloud with Star in Belly

Lightningstar

It doesn't matter who put it up first, but you're right, you did reserve it. Sorry, The Gost, but this is Lightningstar's. Anyway, Lightningstar, please sign with four ~'s when you're on talk pages. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:30, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lightningstar, are you still working on this? If so, redden the earpink. 22:42, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

De-thumb it, and she was just described as a pale grey cat, not sure why you added those on the back. I can't see any shading on this. 23:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dethumbed. Make it a solid colored cat, she was never described as a tabby. 23:16, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

And perhaps blur the bottem of the earpink some more, and to bring out the shading, you should darken a few places just a little bit, so you don't over do it. At el  da  22:26, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

The things on the back seemed out of place... Sandstormrocks32 03:27, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading and highlights and brighten the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:14, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? Its been a week. 21:46, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, and the person who was working on it first (even though they didn't reserve it first) was putting effort into it. No offense intended ^^; 20:31, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, i will put up the new version in about 3 days time (sooner). Lightningstar (not logged in xD)

Are you still working on this? Because it's been three days. }  wild    heart   ~    05:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

May I work on this?

/\ was me Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 09:00, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's been 12 days since Lightningstar reuploaded it. So I believe so. If you do, make this accurate(like, why are those gray lumps there?) <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:52, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think they were supposed to be stripes, but she is a solid colored cat, so remove them, and add highlights. 22:06, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt solid, add highlights and shading, and lighten the earpink Wild  fire  22:13, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Been working on it for 5 days. XD 00:51, May 13, 2011 (UTC) If the shading needs work, i cant get it right (GIMP screwed up) Can someone do it?

What's up with the shading? and did somebody upload it on thier page? Sandstormrocks32 01:09, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

I can help you with the shading if you want me to. 01:51, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Dethumbed. No, Ivystripe, don't help yet. I know GIMP, and I know it can't screw it up that bad. All you need to do is try again with a lighter coloured earpink, and fix the shading so it looks more like the redline on this tutorial. You can also find an earpink chart at the link I gave you. When you're blurring the shading, put the blur tool on 100% and go over it several times. If it's still not good enough, which it shouldn't be, then you can ask Ivystripe (or whomever you wish to ask) for help blurring. I hope I helped. 06:21, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thnks ivy and wildheart! Lightningstar (not logged in)

You're welcome. That's ok, but if you're still having trouble, just ask and I'll try to help :) 16:34, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I just want your charart to be your own, not someone else's =) 00:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC

That is about as well as I can shade. Can someone help? D: 19:57, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help one sec... At el  da  20:25, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so all I did was smooth out the shading shading, you might also want to make the earpink more rounded on the angles. and lighter. At el  da  22:08, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I dethumbed it and do more hightlights 22:11, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs more blurring. Sandstormrocks: highlights are optional. Fill in those light pixels on the far ear. Much better, Lightningstar. 22:23, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and make it smaller. 22:03, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and more highlights 23:11, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Soften the edges of the earpink, and blur it quite a lot. Darken the shading a tad. This is great.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:31, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Also, make the earpink more of the shape of the ear. Let the earpink curve with it. Also, what Sandstormrocks said: Fill in the blank white pixels on the ear furthest from us.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:34, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I tried, but cant do it without re-doing the entire image. 21:05, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Then I guess you might have to redo the whole image. You could just erase the earpink and start over... 22:03, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. What Mistystar said is what I was thinking. This'll never get approved with that earpink.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 06:02, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

It's actually really easy, you won't have to redo the whole thing. Just color pick the color right behind the ear 9the light grey part), color over the ear pink, then use the right color for it and look at others to see how their ear pink looks. Maybe colorpicking off of an approved charart for the ear-pink might help. Let me see if I can find one to help you. 22:20, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

What about Cloud with Storm in Belly's charart? The earpink on that looks good :) 22:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that sounds good, just copy her image and colorpick it off :) I linked to it in the previous comment so it's right there. 21:12, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ok.....sound good,but... how do you do that? Lightningstar(not signed in)

Click the image until it comes up in a blank window, then save it. From there, open it with your editing program and then you can colourpick it. I'm not sure what it's like in other programs, but for GIMP, the colourpicker looks like an eye dropper. 00:00, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks unnatural and the color is too pink 02:28, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make it more natural; Here is an ear-pink chart for help :3

Up-load this in your editing window to get a natural shade of earpink, this is just some optional help =3 00:58, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I use Adobe Photoshop to edit my Chararts. Lightningstar, would you like me to make a third, new version of this Cloud With Star in Belly Charart and put it at the bottom of the section? I'll try to fix the earpink(not only the shape, but colour, too, using the pelt+earpink chart).- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:07, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think you could just do that, since this hasn't been re-uploaded for a long time. 22:56, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Here it is: Is the earpink lightened enough, or too much? And is it curled enough? I did my best.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:46, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Umm...its okay, but the earpink should be reddened more, like Cloud with Storm in Belly's charart...And it could be a bit more curled/triangular, but its better than the current version's earpink. xD 22:52, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

The shading could be blurred some more. Kittycat, delete the above image, and then reupload it over the image at the top, so it doesn't confuse people =P 23:04, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Still work-in-progress, Sorry uys,about the abbcence,but school homwork has cut into my comp time. It will be uploaded, though, and im also going on vaca june 5 untill the following Sunday.

Lightningstar of ThunderClan

Shading needs to be blurred around the haunch. And a little around the tail. 02:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Try to make it seem smoother, not so angular. 02:20, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading by the right front leg could be blurred. 23:56, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

So, fix the earpink, blur the shading. 23:12, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I like it so far, but you really need to blur the earpink. 75.134.29.67

This Should be declined from lack of work.

No, He/she was talking about earlier he/she has limited computer time.

I still think it should be declined from lack of work. If he/ she has limited computer time, he/she shouldn't reserve things like this.

I don't agree. Give her a chance.

this will be declined, then?

I guess.

Wait for an admin to say that this is declined before declining it yourself. This image hasn't even been given a 'Please work on this or it will be declined'. 19:48, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Wait! Don't decline this! Somebody impersonated me- I didn't say that! PLEASE don't decline this! Please... I didn't say that. Believe me... believe me! 19:53, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

This won't be declined. As for the impersonator, I found who it was and warned them. 19:56, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! 19:58, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Still working on this.. sorry about the lack of work, but i have not gotten on the comp in a week, and im going on vaca tomorrow, so can someone add me to the vaca list? again, sorry for the lack of work. Lightningstar

Stoneteller (Ancient) - For Approval
I worked on this for days and it still looks like crap. xD Constructments? 18:27, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

What? Nonsense. It looks great. Just add highlights to the eyes and herbs. 18:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten her fur, it looks more silver than white. -- 18:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 19:14, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Half Moon, I presume? Anyways, it's good. Make the earpink darker, and that's pretty much all I see. -- 19:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job, I don't see anything that could be fixed. 20:13, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I belive the herbs can be shaded a but mroe detailed. Fea ther  20:18, April 9, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Darken the shading under the chin and lighten the ear-pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading near the front left and back left legs maybe, to give it more depth. (Our left xD) This is beautiful. 8D 23:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's also a gray line under the tail. 00:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

There is a border of colour out of the line art around the tail and base of the tail. Darken the ear pink as well. Night shine  00:14, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Is it supposed to have mud? 21:04, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, because healers never leave the cave. 00:43, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten this a bunch. Still looks silver instead of white. This is good. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:48, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Please don't comment about the colour around the lineart, I'll get rid of it when the image goes on CBA. 22:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it some more. Where's your light source? --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:56, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a touch. This is epically, awesomely beautiful, Mossy :D  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:29, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Lighten the shading a tad bit around the back, belly, and front paws. Koisplash 07:40, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

It's been a while. You still working on this...? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:01, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I just wasn't getting many comments and had a lot of schoolwork so I figured it could wait. :P Now I have ten days off school!~ I think the shading it blurred enough, I lightened it a wee touch. 03:05, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it some more. It's beautiful, but the shading is really dark so it looks like she is a light gray cat. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:07, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

It may be just me, but it looks like the line art on the bottem of the tail has something odd going on about it, but that may be just me, and like wildheart said lighten the shading more, otherwise i think it looks amazing! At el  da  21:45, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, just to clear things up, I didn't mean lighten the shading, I meant lighten the entire image. Unless you want to lighten the shading.... but I kind of think that's more work XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:22, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the base of the tail. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:02, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like on the tail part thee is some shading outside of the charart. 00:14, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the image just a tad more. 01:08, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

You know guys. . . I can't lighten the whole image. xD It's like almost pure white. :P I can only lighten the shading, but I personally think it's light enough. And Ivystripe and Atelda, I already said I would erase that after it got on CBA. 02:13, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Just brighten the highlights and darken the shading a tiny bit then this will be ready. Night shine  00:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry I haven't been on much, I got sick and I didn't feel like doing anything productive. xD 21:47, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Uh...she's glowing with a beautiful silver light XD might want to fix that though I find it awesome.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:26, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shimmerpool: Mossy said she'll erase it when the image goes on CBA :3 04:29, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it a bit more, it still looks silver to me. 22:55, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading or make the patch of shading on her legs that's darker than the rest lighter. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:33, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Does anybody see the "stuff" sround the charart or is that my computer bugging out? Sandstormrocks32 01:37, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

That's just the way she does her shading, and she says she'll erase it when the image goes on CBA. But honestly, Mossy? You should probably fix it now, because if you miss some later (when it's on CBA) nobody will be able to change it. }  wild    heart   ~    03:05, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart. . . I know what I'm doing. There are ways to make sure none is missed, I do it by using colour select. So please, everyone shut up about it! I'm getting people telling me to darken it and others telling me to lighten it, so I'm not doing anything. 00:29, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten her base color a tad, so she appears less silvery, and then darken the shading. 01:56, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't make any sense. Her pelt is white. I can't lighten it. 22:45, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

No, it's not. This image is really dark, for a white cat. 00:22, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

More hightlights on the haunch and the tail then it would look pretty good for the time being 21:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart, I would know. I made the image. Her base coat is white. I can't lighten the coat and darken the shading. That will just make her look darker. 04:00, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make sure there are no pixels outside of the line art. Darken the tail and haunch shading a bit. Night shine  23:58, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid it. Does it look any better? 02:29, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

There is a lot of colour outside of the pixels. Night shine  02:30, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, the new one still isn't showing up. I use a special method for getting rid of excess pixels in which you go on the lineart layer, dunk the background any colour, colour select the background, and click "cut". You go and click cut on every layer. You can't miss pixels that way. :P 02:59, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Just saying I LOVE how you did the ears, they look great. *Ivyheart* 17:19, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Is there supposed to be that "stuff" around her charart? 13:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

No. Ivyheart, please don't comment just to say something looks great, unless its "This is great, I don't see anything wrong with it. I think the shading on her left side needs to be blurred and brighten the tail highlight. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  13:50, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Guys, stop commenting! Did I not state above that the charart isn't reuploading? The new version is totally different. I already explained the "stuff" like four times - this is getting really frustrating. All comments about it are going to be ignored until it starts reuploading again, and all comments about "stuff", are going to ignored, period. Thank you. 21:26, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, the new version can be seen as the second last uploaded version on the image's page. So just find it in there (like I said, it appears as the previously uploaded version before the one that currently shows up, and if you still don't understand what I'm saying, it's the really bright white one) and click it to view it full size. That will have to compensate until it starts working properly again. And if you have read this, can you being your post with a ~? Because I have a feeling a lot of people won't and then they're going to comment on what they see, which will just mislead me and screw up the charart. If I don't see a ~ at the beginning of your post, I'm not going to ignore you, just ask if you've read it. 21:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

~ Hmmmmmmm looks great, but maybe darken the earpink a tad. It's a bit too hot pink right now. Other than that itlooks great! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:40, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the blueish-silver glow around the Charart. Blur the shading on the bottom of the front leg furthest from us. Maybe darken the fur on the tail near where it's attached to the haunch.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 06:52, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mossy said:"Please don't comment about the colour around the lineart, I'll get rid of it when the image goes on CBA....and all comments about "stuff", are going to ignored"

So, yeah. don't comment on that :P 22:50, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

~ Ok I looked at the new version. All I can find on it is that the ear pink and the nose seem to be a little bit too bright, maybe darken it just a tad? Other than that I see nothing wrong. 14:56, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see that Paleclaw said almost the same thing xD Sorry! 14:58, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

~this is almost ready. Theres just some ear pink on the wrong side of the little line on the right side. I dont know how to explain properly, hope you get it. This is good. 21:47, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

This IS GREAT! I love it! The shading's great, but i'd put more highlights(maybe, my computer sometimes makes images look messed up!), but overall, it's an awesome charart! <font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 00:23, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

~Maybe make the earpink a little darker. Lovely, though. 02:45, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see that warning post of Mossy's.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 07:35, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

She looks great! I don't see much that could be changed. I honestly look at the charart and think nothing to be changed. It's almost ready to go up. 03:58, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

~Agreed xD Its beautiful. If possible, though, blur the chest highlight a little more. 23:06, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Snow Falling On Stones(TB)~For Approval
Okay, so here's Snow! Her eye was really hard to do. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Umm...it seems kind of small... Fix the ear pink. 22:51, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and move it to the right section XD 22:52, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'll fix the ear pink but...................................I don't know how to put it into the correct section. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Moved to the correct section. Blur the shading and tone down the highlights, they look too bright. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:53, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Why is it so small? It IS full size right? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:17, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't think its full size, and the background isn't clear, either. Did you use GIMP? 01:05, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

If this isn't full size, you might have to redo it :/ Did you get the full size of the to-be lineart? 01:06, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It looks as if you used the real color white to fill the image. If you do that its not right. Use very pale gray. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  02:11, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...................I'm pretty sure this is full-size, from what I got it at. I think it's small, too. I will delete the back-ground. No, I did not use GIMP; I used Photoshop, as that's all I have. Yes, I did use the real color white to fill the image, so I will put in pale grey instead. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

When you save it, click on it, then, click the mangenfier then is should have a full size image that looks like;

<-That (With out the thumbnail) Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:46, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I took off the thumbnail, so now you can use it. 21:50, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll redo it. Thanks for the blank, I thought the other one looked small. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

And rename this Snow.tb.png 02:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay, I TOTALLY redid her. Any better? Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Shading's pretty blotchy. Blur that and lighten the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   21:42, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And perhaps define the shading a little more once blurred. Blur the ear more after lightedning the earpink, Great job, It's going to be great! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 22:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay. Blurred shading more, lightened earpink. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Wow this looks great! Comments before approval? Night shine  22:13, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be blurred and darkened. 22:19, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

And there are a couple white pixels on the very bottom of her front paw (closest to us)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 08:13, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

I see them. Die, little white pixels! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 11px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:21, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Darkened and blurred shading. Also fixed the pixels. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 11px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Define the earpink. 19:29, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and are to-bes supposed to have mud? Just wondering... 19:31, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

No I don't think they are, but I'm not entirely sure. The ear pink looks fine to me, but the shading could be thickened a little. Night shine  05:27, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a bit light.... Are they supposed to be grey or did you forget to color them in? I've done that before. ^^; Maybe make them a different color like blue or something? They look too much like the pelt color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:48, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw; try darkening the eye color a bit so it's more visible. And try lightening and shading the paws a bit; they look sort of flat. Koisplash 07:42, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

No, the eyes are not grey; they're pale, pale green. And, no, to-bes don't have mud, but I can add it if you want. 21:35, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay, darkened eye-color and defined the shading. 21:25, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten the earpink a bit more. It's a wee bit hot pink right now XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:00, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be smudged just a tad like wildheart said, (i know, shading can be a bit difficult ;D) and it looks like there is a lot of dark to the shading, so perhaps you could lighten it just a little, It's really great, good job! At el  da  03:19, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice! Redden the earpink. 22:23, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it be declined. Night shine  00:42, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! I've been busy! Almost finished! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Re-uploaded: Sorry everyone! I've been busy lately! Is she any better? 22:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading then blur it. 23:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. 00:17, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the bottem of the tail a tad more. It looks amazing! At el  da  03:15, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

And redden the earpink a bit. 21:48, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? It's been over a week. If you are, the eye color could still use a little more brightening. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 17:11, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brightening, or darkening? I'd say it needs to be darkened, since it looks too pale. 20:40, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well it needs to stand out more. You could brighten it more (saturate it, and make it more intense) or you could darken it. Either way, it works. But if you are working on this, your uploads need to be more consistant. 23:29, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I know. I'm really sorry. Almost done. Now, how would someone with Photoshop brighten this image. I get where you're coming from, and I agree, but a few hints would be helpful. 01:13, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, scratch that. Sorry, I can't work on her anymore. It's the end of the school year, and I'm just too busy to focus on her. I wish I could, but I can't. I still want to be a member of PCA, just I'm a bit busy at the moment. 20:07, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

If Cardinalfire isn't working on this anymore, May I take over? 00:18, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sure. Night shine  19:59, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Great, thanks =) 22:50, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Her ear pink is very light and it looks like her eyes aren't coloured in. 02:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Before I re-upload this, does the previous charart need to be archived? Or do I continue off this? 17:28, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You can continue off this. 18:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded or '''Re-Did. '''Did I place it right? xD Comments? 19:56, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading; make the earpink less blotchy. Nice work! 22:05, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make her long-furred. Make the eyes more noticable. 72.95.163.62 12:39, May 17, 2011 (UTC)(Honey)

It doesn't HAVE to be long furred. There's no reference for her being long furred and she has no previous chararts, so it's completely optional at this point. This is awesome! I see nothing wrong with it other than what was previously stated. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 15:48, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, if there's no reference for fur length, then its the user's choice. 22:06, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I worked on it for awhile but I can't get the shading correct :\ 22:49, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the shading is kind of blotchy...you might have to redo it D: 23:37, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading as well. 01:50, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't re-uploaded since Tuesday, I've been sick and studying for my exams next week. I'll have it up this evening =) 17:36, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I'm afraid the shading is too light DX 20:36, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Not really; Blur the shading and fix the earpink. 23:01, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

See if you can dodge the back front paw a little more. Just a little. 02:24, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Sorry I was having some editing problems. The shading still looks a tad blotchy and light, even if there are no comments I'll fix it again tomorrow morning. 02:47, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the paws until they match the rest of the shading. With the currect light source, it doesn't make sense for them to be light. 07:53, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry guys, My brother installed Windows 7 on my computer where the charart is and my computer is having difficaulties. So...It will be maybe in a day or so. Bare with me please :\ 21:32, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...fix the earpink and blur the shading. 23:14, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded finally :\ I think I can already tell the earpink is off, I'll fix it next re-upload. Anyways, I added more shading on the legs. 20:19, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! The earpink should be smaller and more blurred, though. 23:12, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How's this? 03:23, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Such a pretty charart. It looks wonderful. Just one thing- the bottom of the earpink looks a little bit straight, like a line. Otherwise, perfecto! 01:39, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Bird That Rides the Wind (E)- For Approval
Gotta﻿ few things to say. I tried to make the stripes as consistent as possible. And I borrowed all the colors from Bird's rogue image. I'm proud of this. What do you guys think? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! The ear pink looks kind of blotchy, blur it more. 22:14, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Lighten the earpink and darken the shading/markings. Also blur the highlights. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   00:10, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

You should change this to grey-brown tabby. 17:23, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I'm not too sure that this should be gray-brown. Bird has always been gray tabby, I think she was mistakenly called gray-brown in SOTM. How's this? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  18:24, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

But then why is it on the top of the page, but not in the trivia? 21:27, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful, Mintstarr. Make the neck stripes pointier.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:33, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Changes aren't showing yet. Thanks Mistystar, Wildheart, and Mistfire. On the gray-brown, she was just a gray tabby in Moonrise and Outcast, so I kept it there. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:45, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! The earpink is a little blotchy, though. 16:32, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Should I redo the stripes? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:27, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, if you can fix them up as they are now then you won't have to redo it. You should try making the stripes look like the ones on her rogue image. Night shine  05:26, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very good! Blur the shading on her back; it sort of stands out too sharply against the pale gray. Koisplash 07:44, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I didn't change the stripes, but if they're too much of a problem, I will fix them. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:06, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripes need to be defined a little. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 18:35, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Which ones? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:30, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

All of them. Desaturate th earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:58, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

You could also smudget the highlighting so it looks more natural, and dont for get the tail for shading, nice job, love Half Moon, and the charart will make it even better! At el  da  23:04, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I think I just made it worse. I used the burn tool (pixlr users)/shading tools (GIMP and others). Is it okay? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  01:36, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

GIMP users have burn tools, too =P Darken the stripes some more, blur the shading, and sharpen the stripes. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:03, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- The stripes look really sloppy to me, I might just redo the whole image. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  15:00, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I did a new way to make the stripes. (Shading/highlights before stripes.) I think its better than the tutorials version. And I got the stripes darker, finally! <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  20:05, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Try to make the stripes on the haunch a bit thinner and let them curve a bit, they look a bit unnatural. Sharpen the points on the stripes near the head. Move the highlight on the face up a bit more so it touches the forehead, center the ear-pink and fix the blurred lineart in the ear. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:28, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- There is no blurred lineart in the ear, its part of a stripe and the ear pink is centered. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  17:34, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bottem of the earpink, and smudge the stripes just a bit, or you could blur them, whichever. And it seems like half the stripes are kind of boxy, and the other ones are pointed like triangles. It kind of looks off but that could be my opinion. It's just a thought, but it'll look great! At el  da  21:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes on the face should be a bit pointier. Nice work! 22:19, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- @Atelda, it is a tabby pattern, so its okay :). How's this? <span style="color:salmon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:maroon;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:saffr;">MINTSTARR  I need a new siggie!  00:19, April 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think it's better. CBA? -- 21:46, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Really sorry to interrupt CBA, but the earpink seems a bit blotchy, and the lineart there is blurred. Fix that, and I think its ready! 22:29, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think it only looks blotchy because that is a stripe, not blurred lineart. But I'll change it. From here on out, that isn't blurred lineart, it is a stripe. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:45, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. and make the earpink neater and smaller. 00:48, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- If this shows up twice, my computer is messing up. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  01:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading a bit. 21:06, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes a bit so they look a bit more like her Cavegaurd image. Otherwise, nice job! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:37, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading needs to be defined a bit, and maybe add highlights, or if there are, define them a little. Also, the ear pink looks weird. Make it closer to the right side of the ear, or just look at the placement of an accepted image. I hope I helped. 00:13, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- The shading is fine. And there are highlights, and they look okay to me too (I did blur them.) And on the ear I added a stripe there. I was told to darken the stripes so I don't know. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  22:01, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see any shading on the stripes. The stripes are a lot darker than the ones on her other images, so lighten them. Thin out the stripes and add more. Darken the shading. Make the ear pink triangular. Night shine  00:41, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Make the two stripes on the head a tad shorter and give a point to them. 22:49, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't like anything about this image, especially the haunch stripes. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:11, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes a lot. Right now they don't really match her cave guard image, so tweak them a bit so they do. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:26, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- the changes haven't been showing for both images (most recent two.) <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  19:49, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I didn't like that image, so I fixed it up. I hope you guys like the stripes. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  20:38, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

They're pretty good ;D Add highlights to the tail. 22:07, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like some of the stripes were drawn over the hightlights, so can you try and fix that? Other than that it looks great. ^^ 22:20, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

There are highlights on the tail. And originally, I had the highlights over the stripes, but everyone was telling me to define the stripes. I filled it in with gray, drew the stripes, highlighted it, then shaded it, and added earpink and eye color like the tutorials say to, but the shading darkend some of the stripes and the tips were brightend by the highlights. It's a confusing mess but that's why I drew the stripes over the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:55, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad. Apart from that, it looks good!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:11, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

The single stripe on the head looks kind of out of place.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 15:53, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw on that. Could another one or two be added? Like, by the eyes, perhaps? It's possible to do. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 19:06, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- ^^Fail. No, that isn't blurred lineart by the eyes. Adding one stripe was actually very hard, and making it curve was harder. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:12, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

It looks really good, even if it was hard. Job well done. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:32, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

It has been five days since I reuploaded it. CBA? No, I'm not a lead. sigh... comments? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:49, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think its good, but wait for a lead to CBA it. ;D 22:09, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think you need to redo the stripes. Right now they're too dark and don't really match her caveguard image. I hate to be the one to say it, but somebody has to. 23:34, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Those are the stripes on her rogue image. The caveguard has too much mud to tell what the stripe pattern is except on the haunch. I'll redo them, but they won't be caveguard stripes. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  01:25, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

By what I can see, the stripes on her cave-guard image are kind of wavy. 02:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I think I forgot something. 75.91.242.179 19:49, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:51, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes along her back. 22:58, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are still too dark, and the stripes still don't match. Do you want me to put up a redline? =) 00:32, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You can if you want to, but I don't see I can't use her rogue image. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:06, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I could hardly tell on any of her images. I think the stripes need to be blurred out a little, it appears to have a few inconsistencies which should smooth out with it being blurred on 100% 21:10, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any consistencies, and everything has been blurred on 100% already. I'm waiting for the redline, which Wildheart has told me might be ready on next ready Wednesday. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  01:06, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I can also do one, if she doesn't have the time or forgot. :P I love doing redlines. 08:07, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I made a redline for you, because I think you've waited long enough for one and are obviously having trouble with the stripes. I hope no one minds. ._. 08:32, May 20, 2011 (UTC)



I think it's alright Mossy. Yeah Mint, I would use that. Lark That Sings at Dawn 11:17, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I have the image ready, don't decline, but I'm having trouble reuploading it. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  22:03, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

You're having issues, too? I can't get my charart to reupload either. 22:07, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it won't reupload! And it's killing me because I like it a whole lot better! I need help. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  22:13, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Hope you guys like it! <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  23:49, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

This is lovely. Blur the shading a bit and curve the earpink. 00:19, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

... It's the same stripes as you used to have on the old version, but when you look at the previous versions of it, it has the same stripes as the redline. Is it supposed to have the old stripes right now? Anyways, looking at the one that used the redline, the eyes are a bit too neon, and the stripes around the shoulder area could be defined a bit. Other than that it looks AMAZING! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:57, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Redden and blur the ear pink 13:36, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Thank you Paleclaw for your compliment! Comments? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  13:47, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. 20:42, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I hope you guys like this. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  00:21, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 03:59, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred the shading. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  13:42, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur it more. Way more. 18:51, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Is the back shading too blurred? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:47, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think the back looks fine, possibly define the shading on the face. At el  da  23:22, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

There is no shading on the face. That's a highlight, which stands out to me. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  02:07, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

No, the back shading is most definitely not blurred too much, it actually needs to be blurred more. Blur it as much as whatever program you're using will let you. :) And if you can't see it after it's blurred, just darken it. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:22, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Arg! Back Shading! <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  23:51, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Why is there an older image up? I reuploaded a new one. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:44, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The chararts are taking a long time to show up after uploads. Could you add a little more highlighting/shading to the tail? 23:03, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- reuploaded. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  22:26, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Is your newer/current version the one that used the redline, or the original type of tabby? 22:43, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit, but not the stripes. Darken the line on the back of light shading so that it matches the rest of the shading and curve the earpink a tad. 23:08, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- the new version is up. Changes aren't showing. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  21:53, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Changes are now showing. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  21:06, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken that bit on the back and curve the earpink. 07:54, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I'll rename it later, it took forever to reupload. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  18:05, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks a teensy bit too big. On the left side of it, shorten it up a tad while keeping the curve in it. Lovely work! 19:18, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- same problem as last time, so I'll fix it when it's on CBA. I just tweaked it because I didn't like the earpink. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  22:56, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading where I circled. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; You don't need to reupload an entirely new file every time you make a tweak to the image. Instead, just reupload over the old file. 00:53, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- @Wildheart, I understand how reuploading works. Anyways, I'm not sure if the new file reuploaded. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  13:50, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:23, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- It's on the image history, won't reupload. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  01:41, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Just add some shading to the tip of the tail.

Awesome! Just blur the shading on the chest a ''tad. ''Looks great :) 20:22, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it does :) Make the earpink more neat.  23:20, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ice (Lo) - For Approval
I'm not so sure about the collar. Comments? 14:55, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken his ear pink, blur and darken shading, and his collar looks stuck to his neck. It should stick out a bit. 20:10, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely work! Maybe make the teeth a bit bigger. Should he have claws like in scourge's rouge version, since bloodclan cats have their claws re-enforced with dogs' teeth? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:14, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know. 20:17, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:20, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink, blur the shading, and add/darken it on the back part of the right foreleg. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:22, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:04, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. . . he doesn't get a collar, because he wasn't a BloodClan cat when he was a loner. 00:44, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

But he can't really take it off.... And plus Snake got a collar on his Loner image. Good job on this! maybe blur the shading a bit more. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:33, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:11, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, blur the pelt. 22:04, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred the shading A LOT 22:50, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a lot. This is nice =P  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:25, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 14:38, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I blurred it too much. 20:31, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Define the earpink, redden it. 21:56, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

The collar needs shading, make the ear pink a little more noticeable. It kinds of blends in with his fur color. 01:12, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink perhaps, and put some shading on the tail and possibly the legs. Nice job :) 184.96.25.37 03:03, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened the earpink a little, but I'm not gonna change it because I took it from his rogue image. There was collar shading, but it wasn't noticeable. 17:19, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. 23:37, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Also, define the earpink. 01:05, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:14, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink needs to be a bit smaller, it's almost filling the ear right now. Also, the back shading's a bit thick and needs to be blurred more. Otherwise, it looks good! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:09, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think the earpink is fine. And this charart looks horrible to me. 18:50, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine, but for some reason the shading still looks odd. It somewhat looks like around the lighter shading, there is a darker shade and then it lightens ups around that. I would smudge the shading or possible redo the shading, just the shading, other than that it looks great! At el  da  01:07, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redone. 02:55, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and brighten it. Enlarge the highlights or thin out the shading so it looks closer to this shading redline and then blur it. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:59, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I actually redid this, but the changes aren't showing. 16:26, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Try reuploading it again. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:30, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I did, but the previous upload turned to the redone version. o_o 00:55, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oh that's happened to me quite a few times. It may take a while for it to show the version you need, so just be patient. I think one time it took about a day for it to show the new version. 19:55, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I know what to do. It's just been a long time... or not 21:51, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 22:04, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Here's the redone version, if anyone wants to see: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110430025306/warriors/images/archive/a/ac/20110502005455!Ice.loner.png 00:47, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

The redone one looks wonderful! Perhaps redden the earpik and it looks almost like it goes all the way down to his eye, so possibly fix that. Define the shading just a tad on his body, and add shading on his tail and legs. It looks amazing!! At el  da  03:21, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There is shading on the tail and legs. And I am not changing the earpink. 23:04, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading. Redden the earpink and make it smaller. Why won't you change it? }  wild    heart   ~    03:34, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took the earpink from his rogue image, and it doesn't make any sense to me to have two different earpink colours. And NOW the changes show. 21:41, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you can take the earpink from his kit image (I made that xD), I think the earpink on the kit charart looks better. :P 21:59, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

If you say so... 00:42, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:44, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and either extend it up the flank a little, or add some shading at the along its back. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 02:23, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:49, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the teeth on the collar and blur the shading. It might help to look at this redline 'cause the shading is kind of non-sensical right now XD   }   wild    heart   ~    05:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and make the earpink smaller. }  wild    heart   ~    05:37, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shading ffffaaaaailll 17:30, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the shading, and possibly add highlights (I'm such a sucker for them xD) 19:42, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights, blur the shading, and that box of shading isn't anything you'll see on cats, so fix that please. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid this again, but the changes aren't showing. 23:55, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it's fine. 23:56, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading alot. Also, blur the earpink and make it lighter. <span style="color:red;font-family:Segoe Script;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:43, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading on the tail. 22:10, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:26, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the back legs, please. It looks wayyyyyyy to dark. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 17:40, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:11, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Looks much better. Can you blur just a tad where the shading and pelt color meet (on the haunch)? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:29, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:02, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur where the shading and pelt colour meet on the haunch, and darken the shading on the middle of the belly. 00:53, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:02, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Comments? (Sorry, I'm a bit impatient) 22:02, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Its okay, I'm really impatient too XD Define the earpink. 22:07, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll do that when my home laptop is back (I'm on a school comp right now) 18:58, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton. 01:52, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I now have GIMP :D 03:17, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading A LOT, make the earpink and highlights brighter, and make the earpink smaller(desaturate, I believe, or is that making it paler? I blanked out.) <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  00:36, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can someone blur for me? 23:58, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

I will. 05:22, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) 15:24, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I blurred the shading and reuploaded it. . . then I remembered I can't upload stuff. Moonleaf, do you have an e-mail, so I could send it to you? 21:06, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I do. :P 01:42, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded The changes aren't showing yet. I think it got me too. 17:03, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The changes aren't really showing for anyone; define the earpink. 23:05, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I know. 00:18, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights together on the back leg closest to us. Is it just me, or is the leg I just described way too dark? Should there be some highlights added?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:36, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I was looking at the top Charart. Erase what I said before from ur mind. The lower Charart is fine. The collar shading could do with some blurring, though. And, is his earpink supposed to be that white-primrose sorta colour? I think you should darken and redden it. It just doesn't seem right to me.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:40, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I forgot to show the new blurred version, courtesy of Mossy: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110525001732/warriors/images/archive/a/ac/20110525004703!Ice.loner.png And the lower charart is an older version. 00:48, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is still kind of hard to see. 22:40, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Brighten the earpink, and darken the shading in the middle of the belly. 23:11, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:23, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink is the right size, it just needs to be pink. I think there is an ear pink chart in one of the above images. Use that to choose an ear pink. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  18:36, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

I lightened the earpink actually, and I think it's fine. 19:00, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Making the earpink lighter would only make it harder to see. Darken it, and make it a tad more pink, instead of scarlet or crimson.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:24, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'll do it when the changes show. 17:29, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you should put the current version at the top of the section, so people don't get confused. Define the earpink more, though. 23:23, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

I said that I'll fix it when the changes start showing. And they're not :( 17:26, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Cloudy Sun (SC) - For Approval
Here she is. She was described as a sharpclaw when Jayfeather (or maybe Jaypaw idk) saw her in StarClan, so don't be all "she was only seen as an elder!" XD Comments? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 06:32, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Blur the shading, and darken the ear pink a tad bit. Where's your light source coming from? Koisplash 08:25, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, take the ear pink color from her elder image, or if you already have, darken the ear pink by burning it slightly. The tail shading and highlights could be defined a little as well. Nice job, I like this! 16:34, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Its great! define the earpink and blur the highlights. 22:01, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Was she even seen in StarClan? 22:09, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oops! Sorry, I didn't mean StarClan. I meant when Jayfeather comes back from the past, and he grabs the Stick and he sees the sharpclaws. It's in Long Shadows... Anyway, thank you for all the compliments. =D Comments? }  wild    heart   ~    00:18, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, okay, I'll check my copy. Maybe blur the stripes a little. 00:50, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

This is loverly XD Blur a little more on the back where it is shaded :3 00:55, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. It looks great. ^.^ 01:17, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Are thoose little suggigily lines supposed to be on only the haunch and legs and face? Sandstormrocks32 00:00, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, her elder image has them so she should have them on her sharpclaw image as well. 00:27, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed everything, but I'm still having issues with the changes showing (like everyone else) so be patient. @Sandstormrocks: it's called a tabby point. They're like Siamese cats, except with tabby stripes instead of dark colour =) @Splashpelt: LOVERLY, EH? 8D   }   wild    heart   ~    04:38, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look a little too bright, but did you do that since in her elder image, her stripes were faded? I think they should be a tad bit lighter. 20:35, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make the stripes a bit thicker. Darken the shading. 17:37, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlight on the face a tad. Looks beautiful! :) <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 19:00, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly a tad. Yus, this is loverly ;) 01:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks you guys. @Scarletwind: I actually don't have any highlights, so I just darkened the shading a bit. Comments? }  wild    heart   ~    04:56, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. This is beautiful! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 17:25, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink a bit more and blur the shading on the back. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:42, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I reuploaded this and didn't say so. I forgot XD Comments? 06:09, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

This. Is. So. Cool! Oh, and the markings on the face, next to the left eye... They're not like the others... You know how the other markings are coming from the lineart? Those two aren't. Is it supposed to be like that? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:35, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Awe, thanks, Cloudskye! I just copied the style from the elder image, so idk. 00:50, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

It looks very flat. Darken the shading a lot. 02:14, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlightes. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:55, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is kind of hard to see... 22:11, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry for the wait, y'all. My internet's been down. Comments? 23:33, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and the earpink. 01:54, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot. It looks very flat. 04:03, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's not showing the changes yet, so go onto the file itself, and open it in a different window if you really want to see the changes. Comments? 01:15, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

The shadings still really light. Darken it. 03:37, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

I darkened it last time, but the changes still aren't showing. 04:09, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

If you want to see the newest image, look at the file, and the second image in the table is the newest version of it. 04:42, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Changes are showing! Yay! Comments? 00:58, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Since Wildheart is leaving, she asked me to take Cloudy Sun over. (I have proof on my talk page) So I will continue it for her. I'm going to reserve it now. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 16:11, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Blur tail shading a bit(same on the chest), and darken the earpink a tad. It's sorta hard to see. Other than that, it looks GREAT!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:27, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

AS i have said before, brighten the highlights. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 11:53, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights are fine, and if you brighten them too much, they look neon orange. Why not try lightening the shading a tad? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 12:50, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:17, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Define the earpink. 23:43, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Waiting for changes to show... <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:26, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Is it showing yet? If it is, then the earpink could still be darkened, but the changes might just not be showing. 23:25, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still trying... I must've re-uploaded it 10 times since I took it over almost a week ago and the changes still aren't showing up from the first time... <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 02:16, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Barley (K) ~ For Approval


My other charart was technically approved, so I'm going to do this one. Comments? 22:14, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, got through the first day without comments...is that good or bad? XD 21:45, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't there a kit barley already up somewhere on this page? Sandstormrocks32 22:53, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

No, there was, but it was declined, and no one else has reserved it. 22:56, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, Mistystar. But, can you blur where the black meets the white a little more (mostly around the chest area)? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫

Re-Uploaded. 04:06, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, blur, lighten, and define the earpink, and define the markings. }  wild    heart   ~    02:21, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

There is a white pixel between the leg and tail. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 05:13, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. Nice job Misty! <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:38, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. :D I'll try... 21:56, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

RE-Uploaded. This time I got the colors off the loner charart, so I don't need to fix that XD Anything else? 22:07, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading at the bottom of the tail, Good job on this ;D 22:12, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-'''Uploaded. '''Anything else? 22:04, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the impatience, but its been 6 days since the last comment; 2 days since my last upload. Comments? :P 20:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * There's a white pixel on his left foreleg and I think there's some blurred lineart on the opposite paw but that could just be the shading throwing me off. Also, he has that fuzzy gray around him like when you've done all your shading.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 21:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Finally, a comment! XD Re-Uploaded. Any other comments? :P 21:54, May 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Blur the earpink. Other than that, I see nothing wrong with it :D 00:30, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Comments? 00:36, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great, I see nothing wrong with it :) At  el  da  01:58, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like there's some waste around most of the charart, but it could just be this computer. But zoom into it and see if you can find any, if so erase it. 21:05, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 03:56, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmm maybe darken the shading a bit more. It's a tad hard to see right now. Other than that it looks great! Goodjob! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:21, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. anything else? 02:52, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

The markings look really awkward. . . they're very. . . straight. They don't curve at all. And you used a single stroke over both legs and the stomach, which looks unnatural. They're also way too blurred. 07:01, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 22:03, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, changes might not be showing...yet. Its an epic fail :P 23:11, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

The changes still won't show...I guess this computer isn't working. Anyone, help? :3 00:28, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nvm. I think the changes are showing now xD 22:02, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 22:14, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

It looks awesome! I think it's ready for approval. Maybe just a few more tiny things, but it's there! 23:34, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Anyone else, comments? I'm sorry for the impatience, but this is my fourth charart, so I hope you understand xD 20:26, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the gray bits around the charart and make the earpink smaller and brighter. 23:14, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I got the earpink off of his other images, so I'm not changing that, but I already erased the gray bits, but its not showing yet. thanks for commenting, though! xD 23:19, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

re-Uploaded as a new image. Don't comment on earpink, I got it off of his loner charart; and don't comment on the curves of the markings. They're like that because they're supposed to be like that. 02:12, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dethumbed. Redraw the thinnest part of the markings again; it's too blurred. Darken the shading some. 04:15, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

The marking on the left side (his right) match his loner image but his other half doesn't match his rogue image. I can still see some stray waste close to the lines of the charart, zoom in and erase them and that should help you get them all. 15:08, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well, his rogue and loner images are different, so I'm leaving the markings how they are. I'll try to erase the waste pixels, and I'll darkent he shading and unblur some of the markings. 21:52, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Again, don't comment on earpink, I got it off of his loner charart; and don't comment on the markings. They're like that because they're supposed to be like that, and I'm not changing them. :P Anything else? 22:54, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

And don't comment on the file name, either. Its like that because the changes weren't showing on the previous one. Again, comments? xD 22:59, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

No one's commented for a while. Looks, amazing! Nice job, Mistystar! 23:15, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome job Mistystar!=D 23:19, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well then should we Tweak his rogue image in Tweak Week then? 03:17, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Pebble (CG) - For Approval
Before you say anything, yes I know this is already on the reservation table, but I was looking through the archives and saw it was declined from lack of work (and it was the same user who has it reserved now), so I figured it'd probably be Ok to do it. Anyways, I'm excited, this is my first Cavegaurd! ^^ Comments? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:27, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and define the mudstreaks, erase the waste around the charart, and enlarge the earpink. I like it =D   }   wild    heart   ~    07:02, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - The waste around the charart was already erased almost immediately after I uploaded it, but it was taking a while to show up. I enlarged the earpink (though it's not showing YET), but how do I define the mud streaks? Make them not so blurred? Make the darker? I don't quite understand.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:25, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Not so blurred. More distinct. AUGH it's 3:30 here and I have school tomorrow....... }  wild    heart   ~    10:36, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink,. 20:23, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more and get rid of the smudges around her ears and jaw. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:45, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I tried my best to make the mud more distinct, but it didn't work too well without making it looks like spots or something. I darkened the shading and removed the mud from the face. you'll know the changes are showing when the mud on the face is gone. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:33, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

They still need more defineing. If you have them in a seperate layer, I'd just redo them. If not I guess I could help you make them sharper? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 05:17, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah they're on a seperate layer. I guess I'll redo them again. My sharpening tool doesn't work. XP I gtg right now, but I'll do this later today. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:10, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Ok, so I made two different versions. This one's the first, and I'll upload the second one in place of this one if you don't like it. I tried smudging the streaks instead of blurring them, so hopefully that helps. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:46, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! I really like the smudged version of the mudstreaks. Makes it look much more realistic. Perhaps add a bit of mud near her --> side front paw. I know somebody already asked you to remove the mudstreaks on her face, but maybe you could just add some on the ear or the forehead, as the head looks suspiciously clean XD   }   wild    heart   ~    03:13, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the chest and haunch, and maybe widen the chest highlight a tad. Blur all mudstreaks except for the chest ones a bit. I agree with Wildheart; Pebble That Rolls Down Mountain's head is too clean. Darken the shading on the <--- side of the chest. Apart from all that, it looks pretty good!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:03, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink is a bit too big, make it a bit smaller, and add mud on the face. Great work! 22:12, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I find it kind of funny I got completely contrary comments from the first batch. XD And just by the way, I don't have any highlights on this. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:23, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Shrink the mud on the haunch, they look a little like patches. 00:02, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

The mud looks fine to me. I see nothing wrong; lovely job. 00:49, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the mud should be smudged. . . it makes it look like she's a gray and brown cat instead of a gray cat with mud smeared into its pelt. 02:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Is Paleclaw still working on this? If not May I? Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 05:51, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I'm still working on this. It's only been a couple days. I've been sick lately so I couldn't get on much and when I could get on I couldn't stay long, but I'll try and reupload this ASAP. And Mossy, I'm gonna wait to get a second opinion on not having the mud smudged cause everybody else seemed to like it fine. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 15:53, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Changes aren't showing just yet though. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 16:00, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a bit, and I think its good :) 21:55, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Anything else? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:24, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! I see nothing wrong with it. 20:43, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Night shine  23:56, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Darkened the shading. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:19, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

This is beautiful. I see nothing wrong!Lark That Sings at Dawn 11:21, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur some of the mud and the highlights. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  23:42, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit more red. 01:56, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Reddened the earpink more, blurred the mud a tad, and like I said before, there's no highlights on this, so I blurred the shading a bit more instead. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:47, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and darken the shading. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  23:52, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - The changes aren't showing on this image. Look at the second picture down on the file history to see the current one. I actually made the earpink redder before and didn't notice the changes weren't showing at the time. And I darkened the shading. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:20, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a bit more...its still too light 23:08, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The new version, or the one that's currently showing on the page Mistystar? Cause I reddened it more already, but the changes aren't showing here. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 20:30, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what the new version looks like, so yeah, the old one. 22:39, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

This is lovely, I see nothing wrong. 23:16, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

To see the new one, you have to go to the image's info page, and it's the picright below the top one in the file history. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:39, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a bit. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  16:07, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's reddened in the newer image.

Note to everyone: Please DO NOT comment on the earpink until the changes are showing. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 20:35, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful, I don't see anything else you could do to it. 15:11, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Comments? I haven't gotten any comments telling me to do anything that's NOT earpink in a while.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 09:19, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...this looks really good, but something's bugging me. It looks like the mudstreaks are actually part of the fur (like it's a gray and brown cat). Also, can you please lighten the shading on the left side? It seems way too dark. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 12:54, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmmm how do you think I should fix them? Blur them in more or change the color or something? I'm not really sure what would make it better. And I'll fix the shading the same time I fix the mudstreaks. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 16:59, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm not 100% sure on this, but why not try blurring a bit more, and if that doesn't work, then keep it how it is. I realize that the mud is probably plastered to their fur, but, it just doesn't seem...natural...if you get my point. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 13:37, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Changes STILL aren't showing, but you can see it on the image's page right below the current image like usual. I blurred the mud a bit, but I don't wanna blur it too much and I lightened the shading on the left side a bit. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:10, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit, too. 23:28, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred the earpink a bit, though I thought it was fine before. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 02:01, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Foxleap (Alt. W) - For Approval
...I really hate this. Looks terrible >.< 04:07, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

No it doesn't! Darken the shading and earpink. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 04:14, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  04:25, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading even more. I like this :3   }   wild    heart   ~    05:50, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad, and enlarge and widen the shading a bit. Make his tail a tad bit lighter.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 06:57, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I say make the ear pink a tad bit smaller, it looks like it fills the whole ear, but maybe it could be because of the blurring. You could define it a little, just experiment and see if that would look better. Add some light parts to his tail towards the top. 20:38, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh. Think it looks a bit too pink. 04:08, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

The tail looks really gray at the end, is it blurred line art? If it is, get rid of it. If its not, make it more tawny. 19:22, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

And make the whole a tad bit lighter and redden the ear pink Sandstormrocks32 16:24, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the legs, it looks great ^.^ 02:16, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  05:46, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make sure this is saved as a png file. The fur look pale brown right now, make it a little more gingery. Darken and define the stripes a bit. Make the ear pink more reddish. Darken the tail stripes expecially. Thicken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:53, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink. }  wild    heart   ~    05:58, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Nightflower is going to be away for a little bit because of tests and stuff for school, so don't decline this due to lack of work. She didn't tell me how long she'll be gone, but hopefully it won't be for too long. Yeah so she just asked me to let you all know this... :3 19:52, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks Whispy ;D Nightshine: He was described as a tawny tabby, and tawny is light brown. Also, it doesn't have to be a .png, it's not like .gif makes any difference to the actual charart. 04:23, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! The earpink looks kind of purple; make it more red-pink. 00:22, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  23:01, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Right here where I circled: Is there some leaked highlight/shading on the lineart or something? 01:05, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  01:23, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

The lineart is also lighter by the tail XD Other then that, Looks great Nighty! :) 20:28, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink could be less purplish, too. Great work! 23:22, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink pink. Other than that, its great! Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  16:05, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  00:50, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

There still a bit of lighter lineart in a few places like the base of the tail, and a little on the front legs. If you would like, I can put another lineart over it. At el  da  20:51, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

It looks amazing, just the bottom of the ear could use some blurring. 03:54, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly shading. 00:59, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I've been having uploading problems, so Icystorm reuploaded this for me ;D 22:18, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink a bit more. Great job! 22:26, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Shy Fawn (Q) - For Approval
Comments? -- Night  shine  01:28, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks a tad bit...green? Could you make the ear pink stand out a little bit? 01:38, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened ear pink. I took the colours right from her sharp claw image. Night shine  01:40, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh ok, now that I looked the shading colors are the same :) My bad! 01:43, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger. No offense to the artist who did her original image, but the colours are kind of terrible. They look very green. Could we change this in Tweak Week, and if so, why don't we just change the colour now? }  wild    heart   ~    04:35, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded changed colours around and made ear pink bigger. We'll just redo the Sharpclaw image during tweak week. Night shine  05:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

That's what I meant. Sorry for the miscommunication. Perhaps make the colour a bit richer, as it's still a bit green. }  wild    heart   ~    05:48, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. This is great! :D 21:54, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded how's this? Night shine  23:33, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! IF possible, lighten the shading on the tail, its a bit hard to see, but otherwise, it looks great! 00:38, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

<-- how about this colour? 04:08, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back highlight. Nice job Nightshine, <span style="color:red;font-family:Segoe Script;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:41, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

The shading seems a tad dark on her muzzle, maybe lighten it just a tad bit? 00:16, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I redid the colours. Comments? Night shine  21:09, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to be so fussy about this, but the colours still look a bit green-tinged. If it's just my computer, ignore me, but thin out the shading a bit on the top of the haunch. 00:45, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all the highlights, widen the stomach highlight and add shading on top of the back. 02:10, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Night  shine  20:07, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! If possible, blur the bottom of the earpink, but other than that, it looks awesome! 01:18, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred bottom of ear pink. Night shine  00:27, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful. =) I see nothing wrong. 00:24, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Same! It's amazing. *Ivyheart* 17:22, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading/highlights. 21:38, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like it's been blurred pretty thouroughly on my screen. Where exactly does it need blurring? Night shine  00:03, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest, front leg closest to us, and a heap on the hind leg. This looks great. It has too much shadow that's way too dark in my opinion, but that's how it's supposed to be, so yeah.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

The base coat seems a bit dark. Maybe make it a little lighter? And I think the shading looks fine, except for around the muzzle, which seems a bit dark. Good job! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:02, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the shading... looks way too dark... it's not working out for me... Amberfire3, RAVENCLAW!!!! <font color="gray" style="background:blue;border:2px dotted">Smartypants!!! Luna is awesome!  07:44, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Night  shine  00:08, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, I don't see anything that needs to be changed. 15:14, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. 00:00, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Nightshine, can you lighten the shading a tad? Still looks too dark. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 12:56, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Or maybe blur it, but I don't think its necessary. Its perfect already! =)  23:29, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Night (KM) - For Approval
Boy, getting the mud to look good is hard. xD Comments? 23:04, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think the queens need mud...Brook's doesn't... 23:13, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well all of the other kit mothers do. I'll just wait and see what others say. 23:16, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. For now, just leave the mud. XD Enlarge and blur the earpink. Great work! 23:18, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the mud streaks. Right now she kind of looks like a dark tortoiseshell XD   }   wild    heart   ~    03:17, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mudstreaks, as Wildheart said. Maybe brighten the highlights on the chest a tad. Blur highlight on side. The highlight on the part of the tail closest to the attachment to the back needs blurring and lighten it a bit. Blur the base of the earpink.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:54, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Oh how I hate mud. :3 20:01, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I was wrong. You need to brighten the mudstreaks. Darkening them only made them harder to see XD 23:39, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 00:42, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly and tail. Good job RooRoo! XD 00:58, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:12, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste aroud the charart (top of head and tail) 01:57, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 20:32, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

There's still waste, so erase that. 03:12, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Could you tell me where? Just saying there's waste doesn't help much. 14:43, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Around the charart. 20:39, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, because that's so much help! Where around the charart? 23:00, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also, you might want to just redden the earpink a little, and make the mud more defined. At el  da  18:07, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:34, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger and the mudstreaks brighter. Right now they don't stand out very well. Dramatize the smudging of the mudstreaks, as well; they need to look like they've been hastily slapped on, not like they're part of the pelt. Other than what I mentioned, this is absolutely lovely =) 01:28, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I couldn't make the earpink bigger or else it'll touch the lineart. 20:54, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

The mud covers most of the highlights, so can you make them more visible? Besides that, its wonderful :D 00:26, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the mud also, in some places it blends with the pelt. For the earpink, you might just want to smudge it downwards just a little. Other than that it looks great! At el  da  02:20, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''The changes aren't showing yet. 19:27, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know the changes aren't showing for you, but I just made this redline to point out small things: Red circles are where there's stray pixels. The blue circles is where the lineart is miscoloured. You don't have to use this, it's just because I'm fussy enough to notice, but it's best you do. 01:03, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and brighten the earpink. Make the mud a bit smaller; she looks like a tortoiseshell cat now. 23:21, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I re-did it, but of course the changes aren't showing yet. xD 23:30, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I tried reuploading it again, and then it would show the new version as the last reuploaded version. xD This has happened to me a lot. So if you go to the file history for this image, the new version is the second image on the list-thing. 17:14, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad and blur the mudstreaks. I like them better now =) 01:02, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Woot! The changes are finally showing. :3 21:12, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, they were showing. >_> 00:35, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit more. 23:31, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Marshstar (L) - for approval
Here he is! Wild fire  20:46, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Darken the shading a bit, make the ear pink fill the ear, define the scar on the haunch. Darken the nose colour as well. Night shine  20:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail and the haunch on the left (my left.). Looks good! :) 21:01, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  21:11, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking my advice oh and make the scars on the right front paw longer and possibly a scar on the tail Sandstormrocks32 21:40, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add a touch of shading by the edges of the inner ear to make it look a little less flat, sharpen the scar on his flank, darken the shading under the chin and add shading the under part of the tail. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:24, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You don't necessarily need to add shading on the earpink, but smudge the pelt colour into it with the smallest brush possible. He doesn't have a scar on his tail, so you don't need to add one. Blur the shading and darken it a bit. 03:46, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the bottom of the haunch closest to us. Apart from that, it looks pretty good!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 07:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  19:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear oink then I belive it should be ready 22:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  22:35, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading :) 20:07, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 22:01, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:29, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the bottom of the scarred haunch still needs a tad more blurring.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:07, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

And the shading on the chest. 01:16, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:43, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

The nose is gray... 00:42, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

The nose should be gray. Blur the haunch shading and smudge the pelt colour into the ear. 01:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. The haunch scar too. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think the eyes need some shading as well. 00:28, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

blur the tail shading. 00:32, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Wild  fire  01:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the face highlight.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 07:06, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  01:13, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

On the hind leg the shading looks odd, so smudge or blur that just a little. Also you could darken the scar on the hind leg. Darken the eye color and this will be perfect. Good job At  el  da  02:15, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the bottom of the un-scarred front leg. The haunch highlight could do with some blurring/smudging, too. This is cool. I think it should get approved in not too long.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:23, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt colour into the ear, and add some depth in the eye by darkening the bottom pixels. 00:22, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink 12:54, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took the earpink from the deputy charart so I'm going to leave that Wild  fire  15:07, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, especially on the haunch. 19:59, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the middle of the tail, the scarred front leg, and scarred haunch. Those three problems mess it up quite a bit, especially haunch light. Go pretty much blur crazy there. This looks good, apart from my suggestions.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 23:51, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, and smudge the earpink into the ear a bit. 22:44, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  22:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Either lighten the whole thing, or darken the highlights and shading. 14:22, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 22:18, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Prey Hunter Blanks - For Approval
If anyone objects to me putting these up, then I'd be happy to take them down. Comments? Night shine  20:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe move the eye a bit farther from the lineart (only a bit) and it looks like they have a big bump above the nose, smooth it out a bit. 21:04, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded tweaked muzzle and eye. Night shine  21:17, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

the chin kind of sticks out Wild  fire  21:32, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

These look amazing! 22:25, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

It appears to have no chest - the shoulder looks like it's attached to the neck. It also has no upper butt, the tail seems like it is the upper butt area. . . like, a cat's tail isn't attached that high up. xD The ears appear floppy, like donkey's ears. It has no far arm, just a paw - the far arm would have to be very skinny and disproportionate to fit behind the other one. 22:53, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded applied changes. Night shine  23:47, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

it looks like it has a double chin, its front foot is bent upward, and its back leg is too thin hope this helps Wild  fire  00:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The chin looks fine. 00:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

It looks a lot better now. But the back legs kind of look like noodles. . . xD 00:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps make the shoulder a little less protruding, and add some fur ruffles on the front legs' elbows. The very front front leg (if that makes any sense lawl) could be a bit longer. These are awesome! Wonderful job. 00:42, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

No complaints here. i think it looks perfect Night Shine. But one thing, if we redo al the prey hunter blanks, does that mean we can redo all the prey-hunters? If so, great! I just can never catch a charart... But anyway, It looks great! 02:08, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we'd redo all the current prey hunter chararts. 02:09, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

But the people who currently have a PH image up would still have claim to theirs, and the redone images would be done in Tweak Week. So if you want to do a PH image, you'll have to get 4 images approved before then, Spottedstar =P 02:31, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The area above the tail sticks a little far out. Also, the lines need to be thickened in areas. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 04:17, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

If we're making a new blank, shouldn't all the prey hunter chararts currently up for approval be taken down? The front leg on this seems to curve up slightly which looks strange. It's also pretty skinny for a cat. It has no pupils. 04:54, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded yes the prey hunters currently up for approval should be taken down. Night shine  20:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the front leg closest to us a tad skinnier on the short haired ones. 20:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Also make the front leg a little longer Wild  fire  21:06, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

There is a black triangle between the ears and it looks really odd. You might want to erase some of that. At el  da  22:42, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Where's the pupil? Because it looks sort of wierd. But other than that you did a great job!

Sorry ^that^ was me 22:45, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

i think you put the pupil in yourself like the others Wild  fire  22:48, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think the eyelash on the females should go up a tad bit. 23:40, May 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the back ear should be more pointed like the front ear. The back one seems to look a tad round at the top and pointing back if you get what I mean. Almost reminding me of my dog.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 00:31, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded -- Night  shine  00:40, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps you could change the far bit of front leg that's showing; it's curved so that it looks like the paw should be curved backwards a tad. I'm not quite sure how to explain it, but the back line of the partly-obscured paw is too straight. It doesn't quite curl enough. I'm not sure if that made any sense... But anyway, these are so good. ^^ 01:21, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Its paws just look like squares. It needs toes. 01:27, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Its paws are designed just like all the other blanks' paws are designed. It wouldn't match if you changed it. 06:11, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the head a little rounder at the top. The tail seems a teeny bit long as well. Maybe shorten it by a few pixels. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:58, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Shorten the tail, and make the long-haired more bushy Wild  fire  03:08, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

The long haired tail is bushy enough but I think that it could be shortened. And the back legs still look really floppy. . . maybe find a good ref picture of a leaping cat? 18:46, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

the long haired ones should have a bit of long hair flying on their back since they are leaping right? *Canyonsong* *Warrior Of Fireclan*  19:14, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

The haunch looks a little too boxy on the shorthaired. And there is this thing on the heads of all of them. It looks weird, so I circled it, and it makes it look like they have a bump on their heads. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:53, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

The longhaired ones look fine, as does the head, but perhaps change the half-obscured hind leg. Mossy's right. It does look a bit floppy; perhaps thicken it or change the position. 23:26, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

The Female cat's eyes look a bit stretched. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  16:02, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, just a bit. I think it's okay, for now. 15:03, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded sorry for not being active enough. Night shine  01:55, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Why're the shorthaired ones blurry? 02:09, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ears longer on both the longhaired and the shorthaired.

Sorry ^that^ was me 02:41, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

The changes aren't showing right now. Night shine  01:31, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Why are the shorhaired ones blurrier than the longhairs? Just wondering... 23:34, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) For approval
Nobody reserved it so I thought I could do it. But i messed up the torn ear. Sandstormrocks32 16:53, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, not bad, needs some work;


 * 1) one make him more golden colored, like his aperentice image is, this is more a horrid yellow-green


 * 1) number two

You might want to copy the red line that was done for his image that was up before this one;

copy the colors for it too


 * 1) three

Darken and blue the earpink some more and make it smaller. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 18:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks but it might take a while becuase I'm trying to replicate it. So it might take a while but i am working on it. Sandstormrocks32 18:31, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Almost done... 21:30, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Darken the shading, and lighten the earpink. Blur the stripes as well. 22:18, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

(and smudge if you want) Wild  fire  22:27, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured the striped as I could 22:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this Tigerheart.warrior.alt. 22:40, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes more evenly and either add more or make the current ones thicker. Desaturate the earpink. 23:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I did as much as possible but it was really hard to make the stripes thicker and blur the stripes but I did my very best 23:09, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded i made the stripes bigger and i changed the ear pink. I hope the changes show! 02:01, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Run over the stripes with the smudge tool to give them a sort of "point". Darken the belly/legs. 20:00, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Make the earpink smaller. 22:00, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded When I reupoad my computer says I have to rename it and I can't do anything about it so I keep having to change the name in someway. 22:47, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Well, you can still upload it onto the same image and keep the same name on the wiki file, even if you rename the file on your computer. 22:50, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded The shading was driving me crazy! But i still have to change the name. I don't know what to do. And it's when I'm inserting the picture. 23:46, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">CBA?! 75.72.59.54 02:08, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The stripes look kinda pasty and the highlights don't go through them. It's like the stripe is over the highlight. Stretch the highlight down the tail rather than leaving it on the tip and darken the shading. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:28, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">MUCH better, blur the pink a tad, do what Scarlet said, and whoever said CBA, that is for the leads to do, not so random person, to do. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 08:16, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">okay 1.go over highlights again and 2.to Reupload the charart you click on it then you click on the little box thing in the bottom right corner then you scroll past the two pictures of your cat and click on 'Upload a new version of this file' and find it on your computer Wild  fire  11:45, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The stripes need highlights/shading too. 21:53, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded @Wildfire I clicked modify and I had to do the same thing 22:58, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Its too light. Are you sure you copied the colors from the apprentice alt? 23:40, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I got it from the red line one but I'll darken it right now

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded Sorry ^ that ^ was me. I darken the whole thing now 00:10, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Now the stripes don't have shading. 00:14, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I put some more hightlights and shading 00:19, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the highlights some more, darken the shading a tad, and blur the stripes. 01:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes and the shoulder and face highlight. This looks great, Sandstormrocks.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Could someone blur it on GIMP for me please? (Sandstormrocks32 not signed in)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I would blur it for you, but I don't have GIMP. 20:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I can help you. Imma talk to you on our userpages. 22:25, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I blured as much as i could but could somebody blur on GIMP please? But I did darken just a little bit. 22:48, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Ok reuploaded for you. I blurred the stripes, some of the shading, got rid of some misplaced pixils, and erased the waste around the erased part of the ear. Hope I helped :) 23:00, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Darken the highlights, darken the shading (I can't really see any) darken the stripes a bit and define them. Night shine  23:18, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Make the ear pink smaller. 00:33, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Looks much better with the highlights and stripes blurred. Blur the shading on the bottom of the tail, and make the earpink a tad smaller, as Squirrelflame advised. Blur shading on the front paw closest to us. This is awesome! :)- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:54, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">OMG! It looks awesome! Darken the shading. 11:24, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I'm having the worst time ever with reuploading! :( 20:52, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The highlights are still too bright. It makes him look shiny. Also, darken the shading a bit more. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:54, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reoploaded I fixed the reuploading problem 23:33, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes and make the shoulder highlight more oval-shaped. 01:59, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded  02:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur and darken the highlights. 20:20, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded Never mind I'm still having trouble with reuploading 22:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">From above. What do you mean you clicked modify? Wild fire  18:12, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this 'Tigerheart.warrior.alt' 19:19, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">@Rainlegs Sandstorm is having a problem w/ reuploading I'm trying to help. you can join in on her talk page if you have any suggistions. Wild fire  21:24, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I fixed all the misplaced colors and stuff. @ Wildfire thanks for the help with reuploading the problem is now fixed 00:40, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this Tigerheart.warrior Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 03:45, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Correction, name this Tigerheart.warrior.alt, As Rainlegs stated before =) 20:32, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The highlights are too light; darken them a bit, and the highlights look kind of greenish on the face... 22:40, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I don't know how to rename it. Is it possible for somebody else to change the name? Oh and when I press backspace it makes me go back to the previous page 23:12, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Upload the same file, then name it "Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png". Then replace the old image with the new image. That's how you rename it. 00:45, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and make sure to put the "delete" tag on it saying it's a duplicate and an admin will get rid of it. 01:35, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks kind of blotchy. 20:28, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to change the name but I dont think it's wroking too well 22:41, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pale, center it, and blur it. Add shading. Blur the stripes. The highlights are too bright and need to be blurred. And there is blurred lineart on the right foreleg. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  02:01, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the tip Mintstarr. I also fixed the other misplaced pixils 23:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Better. Try to blur where the highlights meet the actual pelt color and/or darken them. :) 02:51, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured as much as I could and i darkened the highlights 14:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job!! You might just want to blur the earpink a bit more, and darken the legs that aren't in front. At el  da  00:52, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did that and I don't think the way Wildfire told me how to do it isn't woking too well... It keeps reuploading the same picture. Is anybody having the same problem? 01:42, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I am, too. Just upload it twice everytime you need to reupload it, and tell people that the correct image is the one under the 'current' one on the file page. 02:43, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't understand like, half of that but I'll try to do that next time. 03:13, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights are way too light, they look kind of greenish. 00:37, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I did what Rainlegs said to do, and It worked but it's not showing and I reuploaded it like 3 time and it didn't work. But it is under the "current" one on the file page. 00:57, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the entire thing. The colors don't match the apprentice pic anymore. Also darken the shading, and sharpen the stripes around the shoulder/neck area. And MAYBE get rid of the highlights, as it still makes him likke a bit too shiny, but that's up to you. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:50, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

And the earpink is kind of blotchy, fix that. 22:17, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded To dark? I don't know what I was doing... So comments? 22:54, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is still blotchy; And the highlights are still too light and too small. 23:00, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I sort of got rid of the hightlights becuase they were making him look grennish. And I ended up re-doing the ear pink and. 00:11, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The changes don't seem to be showing... 00:18, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, he is brown make him golden Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 08:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Does he look better now? 21:15, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful! Blur the tabby markings, please. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 21:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks really blotchy, though. Define and redden and blur it. 23:36, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's under the current one on the file page. Just to let you know...

Pinestar (Alt. L) ~ For Approval
It was declined due to lack of work, so I thought I'd give it a try. XXXSpecklestreamXXX 06:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks lovely! ^^ Blur the shading/highlights a bit more and maybe smudge or blue where the earpink meets the fur.

^ That was me, sorry, forgot to sign. XP ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:17, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Blur and darken the shading more. :D 11:04, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing a bit, and blur and smudge the earpink. 20:50, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I darkened the whole thing and the shading and blurred the ear-pink. 21:30, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice! Redden the nosepink, and smudge the earpink more. 21:36, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! I'm sorry, personal business has kept me away from PCA. Make him a little more reddish, like mine.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:12, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing again and then more hightlights 23:36, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

The bottom of the tail could be a LITTLE bit darkened, otherwise it is AWESOME! *Ivyheart* 17:28, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I darkened it, blurred the ear-pink, reddened the nose and darkened the shading on the tail. 20:15, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Slightly pinken the earpink. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  13:11, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Fill the ear completely with earpink and then smudge the pelt colour into it. Darken/blur the shading and fill in the white pixels in the bottom of the eyes. You also need to erase the smudged lineart outside the bottom of the haunch. 00:26, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton all the way down the right side. Fill in all the white pixels on the ears, mainly on the left ear. Also, blur the shading and highlights together on the right side of the chest. Blur tail shading a tad at the edge all the way along. Same for the front legs. Give the face a small highlight and blur it when you put the light on.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:41, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all the shading, add tail shading, intensify the highlights. 06:57, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Like they said ^ blur/smudge the shading, and I would darken the bottem of the tail a bit more. Nice job! At el  da  22:51, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading above the forelegs. Other than that, he looks very handsome!

- ♫Millie♫ <font color="Purple">It’s getting cold outside... 22:57, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this "Pinestar.leader.alt.". 05:19, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I intensified and blurred the shading and highlights, and smudged the ear-pink. How do I rename it? 20:30, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Save this file under the correct file name, then place the "delete" tag on the duplicate image and an admin will remove it for you. 01:37, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks :) 15:37, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail highlighting. Nice job! 20:31, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Either darken all the shading so it matches the intensity of the shading on the back/tail, or lighten those bits. Blur all the shading/highlights as well. 23:28, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Less hightlights on the chest area and redden the ear pink. Then darken the shading a little bit. 00:13, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest and back shading, too. 23:38, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 08:43, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the shading on the chest a little more. This looks amazing! At el  da  23:06, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Pine(K) - For Approval


Comments? 20:31, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section XD Blur the shading. 20:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading a little as well. 22:33, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink 22:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the eye color too. At el  da  01:44, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is a bit lumpy and uneven in some places. Blur it out. Darken the shading a lot, too. And I'm having a hard time seeing the ear pink. 08:04, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very good, but I agree, the ear could be darker- more visible to see. Blur the highlights on the front right leg a bit. *Ivyheart* 17:05, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make him more pale, please. 01:59, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the eye color. Are you still working on this? 17:25, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Its been four days, wait awhile. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 08:33, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink and blur the shading. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  13:09, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the back seems a bit blotchy on the back and legs, blur them please =) 01:10, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Don't decline this. Dapplecloud's internet is down, so it might be a few more days until she can work on this. 00:32, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

You should blur the shading a little more on his back. It stands out too much. 22:00, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:30, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading doesn't look consistent. Look at this on how to shade kits: This should help you immesnley, it really helped me :) 15:21, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Ivystripe. 05:49, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the eye color and lighten the highlights a little bit. 14:27, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

No prob. Define the shading on the legs. 71.72.157.130 21:51, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more, there are still a few spots where the shading falters. Also you might want to redden the earpink. Nice job! At el  da  01:39, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

What color is the eyes supposed to be? And the hightlights and the shading looks sort of blotchy. 00:16, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is fairly blotchy, blur it, and you can't really see the ear pink too well, so make it pink. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 05:39, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Harley (Alt. R) - For Approval
At el  da  21:51, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

He was actually described as gray-black so that would be just dark gray. Night shine  22:15, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

This would be declined then, wouldn't it? 05:26, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ I don't think so, because he's originally brown and grey. I just messed up on the coloring XD. At el  da  16:29, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think Nightshine meant that it just had to be a solid dark gray. No patches or anything. 18:26, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, mkay. :3 18:43, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, so I'm somewhat confused. Is he grey and black or just solid grey? At el  da  22:48, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Solid dark gray. 23:09, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ At  el  da  00:20, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The shading could be more consistent; there's highlighting on the bottom/chest area as well as the back, so where's the light source? xD 00:24, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

blur the shading on the back a bit *Canyonsong* *Warrior Of Fireclan*  02:29, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Figure out your light source and change the shading; right now it doesn't really make sense. There's no visible light source. Blur all the shading as mentioned above, and make your earpink a bit smaller. 207.81.88.82 03:15, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me ^^ I keep on getting signed out. 03:31, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ not sure if it's showing up or not... btw, I smudged and blurred it as much as I could on pixlr without messing it up. At el  da  04:05, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading doesn't make any sense, where's your light source? 18:27, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Ok sorry uploaded the wrong one. The light source is now right in front. At el  da  21:26, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Harley.rogue.alt.png 17:36, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and maybe see Nightshine's tutorial? It shows how to do the shading/highlights and light source... 21:45, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ At  el  da

Dovewing (W) ~ For Approval


This was withdrawn before. Comments? 21:54, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

blur the shading on the neck a bit more the earpink needs a little shading too *Canyonsong* *Warrior Of Fireclan*  22:02, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink and smudge/blur it more. the shading on the hind leg looks a bit odd, and just so it looks more natural I would put it just a bit higher, and darken the right side of his back also. At el  da  22:31, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

MAke the earpink smaller, and blur it rename it Dovewing.warrior, and if anyone says anything about the eye color leave it, the erins will (hopefully) tell us what color they are, Feathertail Millie asked them. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 22:37, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job, Squirrelflame! xD Blur the shading and make the earpink smaller. 22:38, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights to the front part of her forelegs, smudge the shading around the side of the head a tad to make it look a bit rounder, and brighten the ear pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:41, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, make the earpink smaller, and when you do make sure you set the blur tool on 100%. Hope that helps. 00:04, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. It might not be showing up yet. 00:06, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

You still need to blur or smudge the ear pink. It's not natural. Lighten the shading on the paws because they are too dark. 02:23, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

SAndstorm, the changes aren't showing yet, looks good, glur the highlights. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 02:50, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller and the highlight on the haunch bigger. Also blur all the highlights/shading, as Maplepool mentioned above. 207.81.88.82 03:09, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Me again... Sorry. 03:33, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the earpink, smudge or blur the shading, and, one question. Aren't Dovewing's eyes golden? But, this is really nice. Spottedfire16, 13:51, May 26, 2011

I like this. Blur the shading. Either darken the shading or brighten the highlights. But overall, this is a really good piece of art. -- 20:19, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

We don't know what her eye color is, blue or golden. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:46, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Leave her eyes blue. She was only described with golden eyes at the very beginning, but it was changed to blue and in all the allegiances it is how she is described. Blur the shading a lot and blur the ear pink and move it up in her ear. 23:43, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this 'Dovewing.warrior' 15:13, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading and make the earpink a little smaller and more even. Also, blur out the shading on the legs =) 02:01, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

So yes, it is confirmed that her eyes are blue? The earpink could be blurred at the bottom. Otherwise, looks fabulous! 00:04, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, if you don't mind. Other then that, this is amazing! Job well done, SquirrelFlame! I love it! <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 13:01, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

This is good, but like the others were saying, smudge/blur the earpink, and give them shading. Also, I'd maybe lighten the fronts of the front legs a bit. It looks kinda odd that the front paws are highlighted but the legs aren't. Other than that, it's gorgeous! Nightmist 19:17, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded.It's not showing yet though. There's some image trouble on the wiki. 01:56, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and I'm having the trouble too. xD Nice work, though! 23:40, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Should I just re-upload it as a new image? This wiki problem is taking a long time to fix... 03:57, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Stoneteller (OTS) (H)~ For Approval
Comments? 03:01, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lighten his bottom half some. I know he's dark gray, but his paws and parts of his chest look completely black and blend in with the line art-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:42, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 06:13, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job Iceheart! Blur the highlights and the earpink. The shading still looks too dark. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  13:14, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it so that it looks less black. 14:37, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the herbs the same color, it's kind of distracting with two different ones. 15:25, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 18:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken the shading on the herbs. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:04, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

The changes arent showing but Re-uploaded. 20:09, May 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if they've changed, but I say blur the area where his fur meets the ear pink just a tad bit more.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:42, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Nope the changes still arent showing. When the herbs are all the same colour, then the new version is showing. 04:29, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Was this approved, its on his page. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 13:11, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

@Maplepool No its not.@Iceheart Darken the eyes, and the highlights look a little funny maybe blur more and add more shading. Wild fire  21:13, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok now the changes are showing. 23:12, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

This looks amazing! There seems to be a coloration problem in the ears, just smudge/blur it. At el  da  00:34, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful! Blur the shading on the haunch a bit. 21:53, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 02:04, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

It's fantastic! Blur the shading on the front left leg a bit. 93.97.191.4 08:07, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the frontleg highlight a bit lighter. Awesome job!-  23:42, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Wing (KM) - For Approval

 * Hopefully, she meets the criteria of being a queen. She was listed as one back in Dawn, but didn't appear in the book. I'm not sure if she should have mud markings as I see there's a little debate going on about that, but I added them anyway. Comments-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 04:06, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Whoa, This is Awesome! Blur the shading, and make the ear pink alittle bigger. That's all I got... -- 04:10, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Nice =) Blur the earpink and darken/define the mudstreaks. 04:23, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Where are the mud streaks? And redden the ear pink a little bit. 15:40, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

This is beautiful! I see nothing wrong. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  19:02, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

@Leopardclaw- please dont comment just to say that unless its been a couple of days since anyone has said anything, it just take up space. Darken the grey to match her other image, 23:26, May 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded but the changes aren't showing up for me :/ -- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:06, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Darken everything. 14:29, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * The changes aren't showing Sandstorm and the image is actually a lot darker than the one that's still showing. I'm just going to have to wait a few days for it to show I guess.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:22, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, they're showing up now :) And it's darken, but anymore and the white shall turn gray which it's actually starting to do-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 16:03, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lighten the shading on the ear pink a tad, it's distracting. I looked at that almost as soon as I saw the image. Nice job otherwise :) 19:07, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded Fixed the ear...not sure what version you guys are seeing o.o this uploading is seriously being weird.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 23:24, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, its awesome! Blur the shading on the tail. 21:50, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Define/darken the mud streaks. Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:48, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay the changes are still not showing up T_T my computer shows them one day and then it reverts back to an old one. The current one showing on my screen is still the first version I ever uploaded...as for the file that I uploaded, it's completely redone. Any suggestions on this or keep fighting the uploading process?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 03:13, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay so I just found this [[File:Wing.km.png]] and now wonder why this picture isn't in her gallery? It's also been [|approved approved. Honestly I think it should be tweaked hardly seeing any shading, but Tweak Week hasn't started yet. So I guess I should withdraw my image because of the misunderstanding?--[[User:Shimmerpool| ♩ Shimmerpool ]]♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 03:19, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is it possible for you to continue off that charart? 00:23, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * You don't understand Sandstorm, that charart was approved a long time ago. Some how, it just magically got skipped when all the pages were being updated to have a gallery. The only way I may edit the image is when we have another Tweak Week. Unless any other user says something about this, but I think this is right.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 04:33, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I think you should just keep working on your image. Though that's just my opinion. Well anyways, if you're still working on yours, make the mud a different color that stands out a bit more. at first I thought it was actually part of her markings. Other than that it looks AMAZING. ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:43, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I say keep working on yours, it's much better than the other one. 16:14, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I say keep working on yours, it's much better than the other one. 16:14, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. Its really good, though! 23:45, June 3, 2011 (UTC) :::::Well since everyone keeps saying to continue on mine, I guess I will. The only problem is this uploading issue >.< So I have no idea what you guys are talking about to fix. Sorry about this D:-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ |undefined 02:32, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Trying out the new mudmarkings before I do the shading. The image finally updated for me.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ |undefined 02:20, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lark(Kit)-For approval


Really, I HATE this, i hate this with a  BURNING  passion, i need to darken the stripes, i need to darken the ear-pink, this fails so much UGHH!!! i really hate it SOOO MUCH >.< Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 04:20, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

....uh, do I even have to comment, since you already said what you need to do? XD Darken the stripes and make them longer, darken the shading, darken the earpink, and define it. 04:25, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, done and done, reuploaded, comments(Can i say my haterd of this anymore??)? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 04:31, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm uploading promblems still? Pssh. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 04:31, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Uhh...yeah, What Wildheart said. Plus, darken the shading just a little around the legs. -- 04:36, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

I did, the changes aren't showing, and I will get right on it. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 04:45, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the whole thing a bit. Since she was listed as a PALE tabby, I think she should be pretty light. *nods* Other than that it's good! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:17, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Omg i want to redo the image, however, Pilxr is being a butt-head atm, so that wont freaking work. Lark, please go and make yourself a tortie or plan kit, really, tabbies are sooo  NOT  my strong point! >.< Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 11:20, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

YES AT LAST IT LOOKS GOOD!!!!!!!!!!! ok Comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 12:03, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

REally no comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 13:43, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok the earpink was bgging me so i fixed that, again comments( Changes not showing )? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 12:53, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

PLEASE ONE COMMENT, im bored. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:17, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading under her neck and along her legs, add stripes to her head, and define her earpink. 14:19, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!!!!!! A COMMENT OMG I LOVE YOU (not really, but really I'm ADHD i get bored, very fast!) Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:21, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Really?The frist image? I fied it, i want my better image, no the fking piece of CRAP that i am forced toclaim as the frist attempt of the cat' art. >.< Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:32, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, whe i fix it again I wil see if it wants to work with me, really, i hate the frist image, and i don't wat to see its horridness. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:35, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Where's the image? And from what I remember darken the ear pink a little. 15:43, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

It was a past, butt-ugly image, and i didnt want it up, so I didn't post it, anyway, Reuploaded, comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 23:20, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, dont comment just to ask people to comment. It take up to much space. Make the nose pink more red. 23:28, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Also, it's better if you refrain from swearing and try to use proper grammar. There are younger users on the wiki, and it makes it easier to tell what you're saying if you don't talk in chatspeak. 23:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

dips head* very sorry. OMG REALLY the older image?....ok, i'll redden it. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 23:46, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok i fixed the nose coloring, and still not working with me. >.< Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 23:47, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, what did we just ask you? We're all having uploading problems, be patient. Make the stripes darker aswell. 23:54, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Please keep in mind, this is NOT the image, that is up, this is the first one, so, do i need to darken them? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:02, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

No. The stripes are fine as they are. Blur them a bunch, as well as blur the shading. It's too sharp. 00:12, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:23, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, so i had Lark that ings at Dawn, and i forgot to blur the shading so i fixed that, comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 01:03, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Lark.kit.png 17:27, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

She was described as looking like her dad, whom is grey, and I think we came to a concensus that unspecified tabbies should be grey. So make her light grey. 19:03, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Ivystripe, it was deiced that unspeified tabbies would be brown, so she stays brown. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:03, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Renamed. Comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:06, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Where does it say that? I checked the voting, and only the very last comment did it say they were going to be brown. And the one below you appears to be grey. Just link me on my userpage so it doesn't clutter the talk page. 23:45, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

On the guidelines, go to the top, click 'Back to page' and then go down to where you see 'Giudelines' and it says "Tabby" it says unspeified tabbies should be made brown. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:56, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thin out the stripes on his face and add the tabby "M" over her eyes. Blur the shading a lot. 01:17, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I've blured it as much as i can without blurring the lineart on Pirlxr, and, go to the image histroy and comment on that one, right now, best you can do (What is wrong with the updating, not complaing, just asking.) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:54, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/Add shading to the tail. Yes, I understand your Pixlr pains. My solution is to zoom in a couple times and make the brush sort of small (Ex. Paint Brush 5) And blur it then so you won't have to worry about the lineart. Hope I helped =D 01:58, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Splashpelt^^, I wil get right on it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:06, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Ok darkend the tail shading, can someone with gimp blur the shading please, Splashpelt, thanks it helped, but It doesn't blur right (Pixlxr is be mean to me DX ) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:24, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I see now. Sorry 'bout that. Define the shading on the legs. 02:41, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

REupoladed, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:52, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Good job! Define the earpink. 21:48, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Misty(May I call you that?) REuploaded. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:08, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Blur that swipe of shading a ton. Blur tail shading. She's beautiful :)- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:31, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I've blurred it to the max( of Pilxir starnders) I will blurr the tail, *dips head* Thank you. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:44, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, can someone with Gimp blur the shading on her side for me? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:46, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Please, one commetn, my ADHD really annoys me. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 05:09, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Please stop posting just to ask for comments. Hmmm..... it looks really nice, but maybe make the earpink a bit more visible? It blends into the pelt too much right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:41, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry.....I get antsy......Anyway, REuploaded, comments, Again, can some one blur the shading for me? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 00:48, June 3, 2011 (UTC)



Ok, My brother did this, I told him he was screwing with it, and he uhm.. Under no UNCERTAIN terms, told me that he didn't need my help and used his own thoughts of art to create this... So.. Just leave a comment with a simple "I like this, nice work your Brother did" or "You were right and he messed it up" My brother said if he senses Bias in the choises he is gonna deck me.. D;;;; Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:01, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's uh..... nice.... XD Anyways, I can TRY to blur the shading since I have gimp, but I can't garauntee I'll be able to. I've never helped someone blur shading so I'm not sure how it will turn out, especially since Lark has stripes. XP ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:05, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

IDK what he says I'm NOT working off that image, I like the image i have up, not someelse's image, the ear-pink blends in, the front paws/legs are to light, there are ORANGE flecks in the fur, no, I will NEVER work off the image, Paleclaw, if you blur it, use my image please. (go to history and use the 2nd image) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:11, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't see what you posted before I reuploaded and I worked off the top image. I'll go blur the other one and reupload it again, sorry. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:15, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Sorry if I messed with the stripes at all, but there you go. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:23, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yay, thanks, Paleclaw, ok Comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:30, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so The tail shading botherd me, so i fixed that, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:03, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

darken the earpink a tad 15:43, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, Changes are not showing yet. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:42, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, define the shading. 23:46, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, changes not showing, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:30, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sparrowkit - For approval
I did this like a million and three years ago xD. I rather like it. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 12:32, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great! Darken the earpink though. It looks to pinky. XD 12:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

three things.

1. Sparrowkit is a tom

2. He is gray, he needs to be brown, thanks to the votes(Lark should really be silver DX )

3. Darken/redden the earpink. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 12:56, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It is a tom blank, he just has the tabby 'eye-liner'. All tabbies have it. I darkened the earpink and made him browner (though it was more in between before) and changed the ear pink, but it hasn't shown up yet.-- Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 13:36, May 29, 2011 (UTC)



Ok where there is red, there is unmatching colors under the nose(its pink dude.) and green, means it looks to gray. and he has no white pixl in his eyes. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 13:59, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

There is a white pixel...? His belly is white on purpose, as with the the eyes, most tabbies have a lighter belly. I fixed the nose, but it hasn't shown up. Nor have the changes I made earlier. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 14:13, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good just blur the earpink. Wild fire  14:31, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink seems a tad bright, darken it just a teensy bit. Nice job on this! 00:16, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the back a bit. This is really lovely. The earpink is fine; if you look on the file's page, you can see the second image in the history table is the current image. 01:21, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Great work! Can you add shading on the tail? 23:47, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the chest area and make the ear pink less purple. 20:49, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Dovewing Eye Color
Shouldn't Dovewing's eye color be blue? I mean, wasn't it mentioned more as blue than golden? And plus, Dove's Wing's eyes are blue too, and she's Dovewing in a past life, and other than the eyes right now she has the almost exact same description as Dovewing. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:37, April 20, 2011(UTC)

Yes. but, she was said she had Pale golden eyes FIRST, so i'm going to say that she has golden eyes, either that, or she VERY werid colors for hazel eyes. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:49, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Huh, I did't know that. Oh well. Still though, I think she's been described with blue more than golden. (I may be wrong though) I always thought she had blue, so..... XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 04:23, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

This should be on her warrior image being approved, not on the discussion because it is about a charart in approval stage. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:33, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

No, cause it applies to ALL her images. Though the other ones wouldn't be changed till tweek week. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:20, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should go with blue, because even though her eyes were described as golden first, we go with what's current. We always have. And Paleclaw, the other ones wouldn't be changed during tweak week, if it's something as minor as eye colour we don't wait. 17:43, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I thought ALL images the needed to be changed were done on tweak week unless the person who originally did the image changed it? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:31, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nope. You can just change the eye-colour and reupload it, as long as all you change is the eye colour. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:46, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

So we are going with blue? 15:55, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Her eye colour was first mentioned as golden... we agreed on her talk that that was what it would stay on. Should we have a poll or something?

- ♫Millie♫ <font color="Green">Heavystep is invincible... 22:18, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I know it started out as golden, but I agree with Paleclaw. I think she was mentioned with blue eyes more than with golden. I know it said golden first, but I thought there was only blue, green, amber, and yellow eye colors. Feather stream     The Sign Of Spring...   09:11, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Golden really is just yellow eyes with a hint of amber. So, it is genetically possible. 21:44, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Since when have the Erins cared about anything being genetically possible? X)  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  00:10, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

IDK. I was just answering a question. :) Anyway, Blue or not? 02:38, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say blue, but I think it should be Squirrelflame's decision, since she has it reserved XD 01:12, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Definitely blue. Though I think golden would look better. In all the recent books she was described with blue eyes (I believe she was only described with golden eyes in TFA and maybe Sunrise?). The Erins change their minds about things a lot (or forget stuff), so you can really only go with what's recent. Besides, her incarnation, Dove's Wing, also has blue eyes. 02:18, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I will actually aske the Erins on their Facebook pages. They'd better answer.

- ♫Millie♫ <font color="Purple">It’s getting cold outside... 01:19, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Idea:

What if we make it a cycle? like her kit image's eyes be tweaked to blue? and each tme she gets a image it is ethier blue or goldend, those seem to be what the eye color is? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:48, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

UGH. She was mentioned with blue eyes in Sign of the Moon. Though, I've read the book, and all the recent books, she has pale golden eyes. I think her eye color is being messed up with Ivypool's. Otherwise, she has pale gold eyes. <font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 03:11, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Should we just take her eye color off her page? and tweak everything to blue? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 22:03, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

That sounds like the best idea. 19:22, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Uploading Issues
I can't upload anything. Is anyone else having this issue or is it just me? 21:51, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

You're right, I'm having the same issue. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  22:06, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'm having trouble too. I think this happened before. o3o 23:09, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't it because there are too many images or something? We could get an admin to delete some. -- Night  shine  01:03, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I also can't reupload images so that doesn't seem like it would be the cause. :P I don't know, though. 06:52, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

I can't reupload anymore and my image got changed to an older version. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:52, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm having issues with that too. I tried renaming, but that doesn't seem to work either. 22:34, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I deleted TONS of images. I wish I knew what was going on and/or how to fix it, but, alas, I do not. Let's leave it for now I guess. It's fixed itself in the past. 20:45, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Moonflight. Is it helpful for us to put the tag on any useless or purposeless images? 'Cause I've been doing that for lots of images, and I hope it's helpful... XD 01:29, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Guide to cat colors
I saw this and thought it was kind of useful, I thought I'd share. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 13:59, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

That's awesome Wild  fire  14:42, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Cool! <font color="Aquamarine" style="background:Black">♫ Moomzee ♫ YO I GOT WENDYS! 15:36, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, that. My friend showed it to me and I actually used it to make one of my fanchars better looking but still realistic. It's very useful for colours. I wish I'd thought to share it! :P 18:27, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Queen charart guidelines?
I was noticing that there had been a lot of debate over whether Squirrelflight, Leafpool, and Yellowfang would take queen chararts. I was thinking that for a character to earn a queen charart if it's not obvious, that they must: Just a suggestion that popped into my head today. Thoughts? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:46, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Have bore kits of their own.
 * It must be known by the clan that they were going to have kits. (I don't think only the cat's mate would count. Like it would have to be common knowledge within the clan, unless they were loners/rogues/etc.)
 * Have been seen in the nursery with their kits.

Great idea! This would definitely help decide. But if the wiki was created before Sunrise was released, wouldn't Squirrelflight have a queen charart? :P 23:51, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I never knew about that. But images can be removed, I know Adderkit's was removed be we couldn't cite his description. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:57, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with Scarletwind! But, I believe we should only do a queen image for Squirrelflight, since she had the rank. And, I know how only she-cats with the rank in the books can only have a queen charart.(example: Brindleface, Ferncloud, and Daisy.) As, she was a queen in The Sight. <font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 01:24, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yellowfang was a queen in Secrets of the Clans, In: Yellowfang speaks: and ungratful son. She should have a queen image.You break the warrior code, I break your spine! 02:36, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, none of the cats fit all of the requirements: Squirrelflight never had kits, Leafpool wasn't in the nursery taking care of the kits or was it known in the Clan that she was to have kits, Yellowfang, same as Leafpool. BUT, I still think they should have a queen image. Also, if we do decide to have a queen image for them, is there a way I can reserve it? I'm not sure if I should reserve it until we decide, but I sill want one. 02:45, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, none of the cats fit all of the requirements: Squirrelflight never had kits, Leafpool wasn't in the nursery taking care of the kits or was it known in the Clan that she was to have kits, Yellowfang, same as Leafpool. BUT, I still think they should have a queen image. Also, if we do decide to have a queen image for them, is there a way I can reserve it? I'm not sure if I should reserve it until we decide, but I sill want one. 02:45, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, none of the cats fit all of the requirements: Squirrelflight never had kits, Leafpool wasn't in the nursery taking care of the kits or was it known in the Clan that she was to have kits, Yellowfang, same as Leafpool. BUT, I still think they should have a queen image. Also, if we do decide to have a queen image for them, is there a way I can reserve it? I'm not sure if I should reserve it until we decide, but I sill want one. 02:45, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Tweak Week
I've noticed that we're beginning to run into a lot of images in need of tweaking and once the new PreyHunter Blanks are approve, all of those images will have to be tweaked to fix that blank as well. So I'm wondering, has anyone thought when we're going to run our next tweak week? I suggest possibly after the blanks are approved. What does everyone else think?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:01, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I've been thinking the same thing. I think we should start planning soon, nominating images and such... That could probably start now, or at least be worked out. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 17:32, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. I was also thinking about the prey hunters that will have to redone with the new charart. Would that be done during tweak week or can they be done as a normal project? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:37, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be done as a normal project. I don't really see the point of waiting until Tweak Week. But I actually asked Nightshine about Tweak Week before this thread was posted, and she agrees that we should have one soon. 23:39, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's been a long time since I've been on here... I'm really sorry for my inactivity. About Tweak Week, I think that we should have Tweak Week every some sort of specific time period (like every 6 months or something). I think that Tweak Week shouldn't be a normal project though, because it's much better when the entire project is focused on just doing that, not just as a side thing. If that's what you meant by that, Mossy, of course. I probably misunderstood or something. But yeah, I agree that we should have a Tweak Week soon. 01:40, May 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * You missed understood. Mossy meant about the Prey Hunters that would have to be redone should be as a normal project instead of being done as a Tweaked Project. But I do agree about the whole 6 months thing as books are usually released within that time span may it be a new one or one rereleased in paperback.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 18:07, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that Tweak Week should be done every 6 months - a year. It just makes more sense like that. Also, I have a question. Its not really that important or relevant, but if a user has 3 images approved and tweak week happens, would they be able to tweak images even if they're not OFICIALLY declared a warrior? And if not, when do users even get declared warriors? I've seen a couple with 3-4 images before that stayed in the apprentices for a while. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:43, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Usually the leader, deputy and senior warriors keep an eye on that and move the people on the list :/ but with the change of leadership a lot lately, it might be kind of hard. Hopefully, they'll go through and see who's eligible to participate and update the list before Tweak Week begins.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 20:27, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * However, though I think this would be implied, I don't think we should have Tweak Week until all these server/uploading/changes showing problems are resolved. I also had a question. In the books, sometimes warriors recommend apprentices who they think are ready for their warrior names and considering the extremely small group of warriors who I've seen in the past month or so, I think that warriors should have the privilege to suggest possible warriors. Though I know this idea will probably be shot down, I was thinking that it could be a way to up the number of warriors we have since there aren't very many chararts to go around. Some of the apprentices have been around long enough to be valuable warriors even if they haven't had three chararts approved. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 02:43, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Scarletwind. But what would the criteria be for those apprentices who deserve to be warriors and how will they be chosen? Through voting? 17:37, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I say voting is the way to go, but maybe through nomination by a warrior and above that rank. The nominator gives the reason on why they believe the user should be moved up in rank (include picture work if they have any since all can't), pretty much just like we nominate a senior warrior. An apprentice can't nominate their self, of course. As for criteria, I think if they have given good advice/comments on art since there probably hasn't been any for them to do, and they are still active, this shall do them some good. But this is just off the top of my head. Any other suggestions should do good.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:50, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that's a wonderful idea! ^^ Esspecially since there's not always that many images available, yet there are quite a few apprentices that are more than worthy to be warriors in my opinion. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:49, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Spam
It won't let me edit Marshstar it says somethig about spam is anyone else having this problem? Wild fire  01:21, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well, last week when I tried to edit it would just be a blank, white screen. Seems like everyone is having these edit problems :/ 02:58, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Joining!
Hey, I'm Moonstream98! I'd like to join, and do at least one or two cats! Here's my sample!( IDK if you're supposed to... what ever.)

Moonstream98 03:25, May 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Welcome Moonstream! A senior warrior will add you to the list later on and no, you don't have to do a sample in order to join the project. Keep in mind though, we can only do images that are needed at the moment. Please take a chance to read our rules/policies and again, welcome :) -- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 03:33, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank's shimmerpool! I'll read the rules! Again, thank's! Moonstream98 03:38, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * The rules are here, by the way. I'll add you in, now. And no, samples have never been needed and never will be needed before joining. Anyone can join. ;) 18:30, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Rouge Blanks
Ok, I had to redo this since it messed with the bottom's messages. Has anybody else noticed on the male rogue blanks, it seems that the whiskers are misplaced, almost on their neck. I don't know if it's just me, but there seems to be a size difference in the heads of the male and female. I'm bringing this up because someone mentioned the rogue blanks before. If we changed those minor things, it wouldn't be hard to tweak the existing male rogues. I just wanted to know if anybody else noticed that. 02:47, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I pretty much hate everything about the rogue blanks xD. But it seems like a lot of work to fix them... You're super special awesome, by the way ;P. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 03:39, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that if we had the time, we should redo the blanks, because, like Darkhallows, I hate them, but it would take a lot of work and I don't think it's worth it. 03:52, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Well, at least, I think the whiskers should be changed, it just bugs me that they are so far down on the males. They are small pixils and could be changed in Tweak Weak. Oh and @Darkhallows, thanks :D 04:31, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that the whiskers should be changed, and if we ever do have the time I think we should redo the rogue blanks, but it WOULD be a very long term project and hard work. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:38, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

The rogue blanks are fine. Redoing them would take too much effort. . . we're just creating more work for ourselves. I'm sorry, but that's just a silly idea. We redid one blank that was only used eight times - that's different. 20:46, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to say it...
...but I'm leaving. If you're looking for an explanation, my userpage has one. Please terminate my project membership. 06:01, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Sad to see another user go! 23:20, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Awww, Wildhert...); come back soon! Miss ya'. Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:52, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Bye Wildheart, we'll all miss you. If you ever have a chance, feel free to drop in on us from time to time. :) 03:08, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Awwwww we'll miss you Wildheart. ;.; ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:35, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Aww Wildheart! :'( I'm really going to miss you! You were a really great asset to the Wiki! If you can, try to drop by and say hi once in a while! 14:38, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

We'll miss you Wildheart ;-; Have happy, loverly, trails! :') 03:36, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Awww. . . I'll miss you. ;_; If you don't come on IRC, though, I'll take srs all for myself! 20:42, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Right, would Oakheart get a charart for being described bracken-colored instead of reddish brown? Thanks! 23:23, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

No, its the same thing, so he wouldn't, its like being red, instead of redish-ginger. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:49, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I know this is a stupid question, but what color is bracken? :P 22:22, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Bracken is like a golden-brownish, like this picture. 23:02, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay, thanks xD Wait, but if bracken is golden-brown, shouldn't Oakheart get an alternate, since reddish-brown and golden-brown are kind of different? 23:06, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well tawny is pretty close to that color, and he's getting a tawny alt that's up for approval right now. I don't think he needs a second alt. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:15, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

What if its in a different rank? 23:51, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah, he died a deputy didn't he? And he was described as bracken color tons of times in StarClan. In that case, I vote he should get one. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:43, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Joining
Hi, can I join? :3 <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 01:07, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, wait till someone adds you, welcome ^^ Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:50, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Kits
I was wondering, when we add kits, could we possibly add the date too? Its kind of a hassle to go through all the archives to try and find their request. 23:13, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

That sounds like a really good idea! It would be a lot easier. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 19:34, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, but we should wait for another lead to decide. =)  00:09, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Tribe of Rushing Water Kits
I was wondering, has anyone made the lineart for the kits from the Tribe of Rushing Water? Or do they use the same charart as Clan kits? I'm wondering because there have been several Tribe kits that have no image, and since Tribe prey-hunters and cave-guards have different images than Clan warriors, and to-bes have different images than apprentices, I was wondering if the kits were different as well. Also, who has permission to edit galleries and add things like that? Can anyone, or does it have to be a specific person? I'm not planning to, but I'm wondering if I could if I needed to. Nightmist 06:58, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

WE just use the same blanks, as for them not having images, Pine and Lark are up for approval at the moment. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 07:15, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blanks, that's what I meant. Sorry, I'm REALLY new here (I just joined two or three days ago) so I don't know a lot of things. Nightmist 19:32, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

That's perfectly ok, Nightmist. I was the same way when I first joined, but we're really understanding, so don't worry about it :) 14:58, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Leaving
I am leaving WWiki Forever. Please take my name off this thing. 22:38, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

No! Not Moonflight too! We'll miss you! <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:39, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

No, she's not leaving, Scarletwind. I didn't think it was true, so I checked the history and it is a vandal. 22:41, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Vandals are getting really restless recently. Maybe the project pages should be blocked so that only registered users can use it? And, to whoever the vandal was, that was really fake vandalism; Moonflight wouldn't say that or do that. 00:12, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, I'm tired of fixing the pages because they put the wrong pictures up (Ivypool, Dovewing, Pine, Lark, Etc.) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:50, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

There have been vandals? Gee, that's horrible! I haven't seen anybody vandalise pages, though I have seen many pages that should be deleted because there's either jokes or are about personal characters who were never in the books. Like this one about a cat named Icefire. I mean, seriously? Personal characters and fanfictions should NOT be discussed on this website. I agree with Mistystar139; project pages should be blocked from people who aren't registered users. Nightmist 02:31, June 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's not doing any good. Vandals are getting more cunning and one has already made an account to cause more. Even if we block the page, all they would have to do was register and start it up again.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:32, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I just found the page of the person who pretended to be Moonflight, as many of you also have. Though the link in the signature leads to Moonflight's page, the template for the sinature was made by Bluesky1. I know other people have discovered this before me, but I just wanted to put this out there so everyone will know that Moonflight is NOT leaving. Unfortunately we cannot stop people from making new accounts, but hopefully we'll be able to catch them, and ban them, before too much damage is caused. I still think we should block the project pages from non-users, because, though we won't be able to get rid of ALL vandals, it'll help keep some of the non-users from destroying the pages we worked so hard to perfect. Nightmist 03:48, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I just found the page of the person who pretended to be Moonflight, as many of you also have. Though the link in the signature leads to Moonflight's page, the template for the sinature was made by Bluesky1. I know other people have discovered this before me, but I just wanted to put this out there so everyone will know that Moonflight is NOT leaving. Unfortunately we cannot stop people from making new accounts, but hopefully we'll be able to catch them, and ban them, before too much damage is caused. I still think we should block the project pages from non-users, because, though we won't be able to get rid of ALL vandals, it'll help keep some of the non-users from destroying the pages we worked so hard to perfect. Nightmist 03:48, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Uploading Problems
Has anyone else been having uploading issues? I updated Cloudy Sun last night and the changes still aren't showing up and just tried three more times and it's still not working. What about everyone else? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:46, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

I have always had uploading issues

Same. It's been quite a while and the changes are still not showing for me >_> 23:12, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, same! It shows the uploaded version, but it still says tha the old version is the current one. 00:39, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah even on other Wikis it doing this, Like on Camp Half Blood wiki, whats going on? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:05, June 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I thought I was the only one going through this. Well usually it's a server problem, but if all the wikis are going through this then wikia must be doing something.....we'll just have to wait and see. Should we stop commenting on images then because people keep telling me to change this which were done already, but the image isn't showing so it's pretty much useless....-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 04:10, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

We're having uploading issues on my wiki too. It's not just WWiki. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 07:06, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

every since I got here I can't upload a new version it never shows no matter what I always have to upload a whole new file then tag the other for deletion

Yeah, this problem is really bad. It takes weeks for it to show. 00:14, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

My changes always have shown, or is it just me? 68.191.115.74 15:31, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me ^^ Splashpelt14 Screw this, I'm going to Narnia 15:37, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Cody
Should Cody get a warrior Charart, since she lived with ThunderClan for a while?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 08:41, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Probably not. She did help ThunderClan's queens, but it was only temporary, I don't remember her doing warrior duties, and she never intended to stay. 14:45, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, she was always still a kittypet, so she won't get one. 00:15, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Also, she never went through the warrior naming ceremony. 02:45, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Spottedleaf charats
on her description it says she has a patch of dark fur around one eye, the apprentice versions are fine, but on the warrior version it has a patch too, since they are flipped that would mean she has two patches. is this an issue?

Not really, because we're just showing that she has some darker fur around one eye, and there's no way we could flip the image around. 13:08, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah and if it's really that big of a deal, it can be tweaked in Tweek Week 13:20, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hey, is it going to be a problem that I'm only going to be able to work on my charart durin the weekends, including Friday? I go to my mom's during the week, and right now there is no internet there. I don't want the image I have up now or any future images declined because of this. I'll understand if it will be an issue, however. 14:51, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

I think its allowed, as long as you tell everyone. No one asks "Are you still working on this?" Until around 7 days after there aren't comments. 00:08, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, ok, well then I feel much better now :) 02:43, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

okay, I know this seems like a stupid question, but when is tweak week? Also, what's up with the prey-hunter blanks? Will they be done during Tweak Week, or will they be done as an actual project like the ones above? You break the warrior code, I break your spine! 02:24, June 5, 2011 (UTC)