Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Briarkit - For Approval
I drew Briarkit. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. G B 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

A few things. One, the background cannot be colored, and also needs to be transparent. I can fix that for you. Two, the eyes are "missing." Three, there needs to be more blending and shading. FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

1. I will fix the background, but I would appreciate it if you made it transparent.2. Her eye-color hasn't been said yet; if it is revealed in Long Shadows, I'll add it.3. If you can give me some tips on how to do the shading and blending, I'll work on it. G B 14:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Idf you downloaded an art program you should have a blurtool if you do you use a darker shade around the edges then you use the blurtool to blend them together.--Redflare 14:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I reuploaded Briarkit; I attempted to some shading. Like it? G B 15:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It's better!-- J K  O  21:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jakko! FxC, any comments? G B 22:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the great comments! If there's anything else I can do to improve it (besides blurtool :p), tell me! G B 22:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks better. The outline need to be black though. For the eyes, I know it hasn't been revealed. I suggest green - it's really neutral. --FxC **The Waterfall** 02:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If we left things out to wait for details from the books, pretty much none of the characters would be able to be done. I'd personally suggest a generic cat-eye-color like amber. Outlines need to be black. Shading is needed. And the pink selected for inside the ears... It's rather... bright and unnatural.. Maybe suggest a softer, gentler pink.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Added her eyes. But I forgot about the black outline, fix that as soon as I can! G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Did the outline. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like the outline was changed from the original lineart... and the eyes... have this creepy staring Zombie thing going on... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Kitsufox is right. It does look like a zombie with these eyes.ZZ Top 19:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should just draw in little pupils to make it look more natural. 97.115.124.162 03:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree...-- J K  O  03:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

This really does look good, GB. Just draw some pupils in like 97... said and blur the shading and ears and it'll look great! -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I have GIMP now! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Much improved. The eyes are still... a bit off. You might wish to spend some more time on them. And the shading needs to get blended into the picture, as does the pink on the inside of the ears (right now it just looks like a dollop of paint fell there). You've sorted the outline issue wonderfully, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Kitsu! I'm on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The ear pink is still unblended and incredibly bright. The shading is still un-blended. The eyes do look good, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll take your advice, Kitsu. I'll work on Briarkit. On the changes. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Your'e so close. I think what'll help is making the pink of the ears more triangular. 97.115.120.104 01:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The pink is really a bit bright yet for such a dark furred cat. And blending it a bit more, so it's just a hint of how thin the fur on the inside of the ears and they'll be pretty good. You should also blend a touch more under the chin, as that shading line is still really sharp. You also missed shading on the bit of belly that shows, and want to make sure all your shading transitions are nice and smooth. You're almost there! <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on this tomorrow. (SB's using the computer, which has GIMP on it.) <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The hard transitions between colors are still there. They need to get blended. Shading needs to be smooth and not look so sharply defined against the rest of the pelt. You're just about there. Get the blending, and I don't think I'll have anything else. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on it tomorrow. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 21:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:16, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

The hard lines are still in the shding, I desparately wangt the shading and blending amped up so she has that aceppted look. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse 01:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Um... what? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 21:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I typed too fast whil holding something. What I meant is that she needs blending on the hard transitions on the shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 18:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me. ;) --Mumble785 23:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I think the ears need a little more blending, and mabye some highlights... If you try and it looks wierd, just don't do the highlights. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 21:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I think the ears could be more pointy... but looks great! ::Applestar4904 16:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll blend the ears a little bit more, but they don't need to be pointier. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that her right ear (on our left) could be a little bit pointier, because it look fairly round right now. The nose looks a little unnatural in the colour, but then I'm used to the warrior ones where you don't even have to colour the nose! In general however, It is great! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Blanks - For Approval


I'm back! This time I'm trying to contribute with these medicine cat blanks. I made them look as realistic as I could, and tried to stick with the style of the previous blanks. And, as trivia, the herb that the medicine cat is carrying is coltsfoot! Well...if one were to color the flower yellow. XD But either way, constructive criticism is welcome. I hope these are fine! C: --Hazelflower 04:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Me likey! --Spottedleaf x firestar 11:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool! The coltsfoot was definately a nice touch!-- J K  O  13:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

First of all, there already are medicine cat blanks up for approval. The coltsfoot was nice, but these blanks look a bit manga-ish. Good effort though. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know there couldn't be more than one up for approval at a time!! I'm sorry. D: Also, do you have any suggestions, perhaps? It'd be more helpful if you were to tell me how to make them look more realistic, rather than just saying they look mangaish, ya know? But I really appreciate the honesty. :D --Hazelflower 20:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, the eyes need to be a bit bigger, and maybe even out the facial features, so the forehead isn't so big? --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 00:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

There can be more than one of a certain blank for approval at a time; just because one is already p, doesn't mean that another can't be posted.–– Σulãlíã 459 678 00:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I think Kitsu is going to deal with this problem soon, that way there won't be any arguements. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * And also I would like to tie in with Eu, the person said they'd like to decline the art themselves so really its ok for another blank to be up. Kitsu just hasn't been up to update it so I see nothing wrong with it all. Also GB and FB I know you guys are helping out alot while Kitsu is away, but you don't have to act like you guys are the leaders of this. I'm just saying how it feels to me. Anyway...I personally love the blank Hazelflower. Great job and they do seem realistic. Maybe you could even redo some of the other bases, you know? -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 04:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, FC. I really appreciate it! C: And I hope it didn't cause any controversy...? I just wanted to make some blanks. XD~ And thanks, Shim-Shim. I appreciate the compliment! :D -Hazelflower 04:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Update! Okay, so I made the foreheads smaller like you (sort of) suggested, FC. I tried to move the facial features around, but it just looked really weird to me. Either way, I hope it looks a little better now. -Hazelflower 00:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Let's get this party started... Very nice work. But not 100% set for approval, as I have a few tweaks. They all probably stem from what I think is a usual Anime-style of drawing that you have. It's not necessarily anything bad, just some tweaks I'd like to see to get them to fit a bit more with existing blanks and amp up the realism a touch. You've got a great start, though. I like the head as it is now. You might want to raise the eyes a pixel or so, but I don't know if that would acctually help deal with the high cranium. It might acctually be best as it is now. Now... Something about the far-foreleg is weird to me... I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's just that it starts so far forward compared to the other. You've acctually got the same effect happening on the far-hind, also. And the tail seems... a tad long. You've got a stellar start, however. OH! And for the longhairs... Can we get a touch of shaggy on the head and legs? Not too much, just a bit! Like at teh elbow and knee and between the ears. Not too much, just a little so they look less sleek. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

All right! :D I worked really hard on improving these, and I hope that they're to everyone's liking. I even moved the eyes up a pixel (and the cat's left eye closer to the other just a bit) and I quite like the result. C: -Hazelflower 22:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They're looking great. I still have one thing I think needs work. It's more pronounced on the shorthair... But there's just something a little weird about the connection of the neck to the body. You're getting there, and it's looking excellent. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Kitsu! Sorry I haven't said anything in, what, a few days? School was busy this week, but now it's the weekend! I'll give an update as soon as I've fixed it. C: -Hazelflower 20:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Update again!! Okay, so, I finally found the time to tweak it just a tad. I brought in the back neckline a bit on the short-hair bases, and I moved down the long-hair back just by about a pixel (but I'm debating on just moving it back up). So, I hope this update is all right! -Hazelflower 02:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks great to me!-- Jakko 123  21:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If you shift the shoulder-blade you added in back a bit, I think it'll be perfect. Putting it in kinda... got my brain around what was off about the shoulder area. Also, keep in mind you'll need to scale the image, also, so that it's in scale with the Warrior Pixel. Great work! <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

How do you tell the difference between the male and female blanks? They all look like females to me. User:Mallinois/ Coyote=background:Black>Coyote  The Doghouse  00:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

The eyes - the females have more pointed eyes where as the males have rounded edges.-- Sandy 20:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

These are great, I hope they get approved. Nice touch ith the herbs.--Redflare 19:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Still, they all look like females, so I suggest adding a more masculine quality to the males. Warm Regards, <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  20:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I like them, but go with what malinois said(make males more massculine), and the full sized blanks are way to huge... --Mumble785 23:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in a while, but please take the feminine quanities out. Can you imagine Jayfeather in one of these? Frankly, I also think that the blanks are manga-ish, and they need to look more like real cats. Otherwise, they look good. Keep working! --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 22:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I think I know what you could do to make it less feminine, The point of the head in the side, if you make it less pointy they might look more massculine ..::Applestar4904 14:37, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the shoulder a tiny bit wider on the male. Also, I don't know how good or bad this would look, but maybe make the legs and body a pixel thicker for the tom? Don't know how any of this would look, but I love your effort, and the nice touch with the coltsfoot. Dawnfeather 21:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Crowfeather- for Approval

 * Many might remember the first image I tried out when I first joined. I did Crowfeather along with Squirrelflight. Though Squirrelflight was made around the same time and approved, I never got around to edit poor Crowfeather. Since I finally have time on my hands I've reuploaded him. I remembered Kitsu saying I needed to re-add the line art back to him. So here's Crowfeather with the lineart back again and the same coloring. Comment please :) -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 06:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

That's really good! I couldn't do better than that! >_< --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 13:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

The shading on his back looks... awkward. Also, the pink part of his ear looks like a perfume bottle instead of a triangle. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah I remembered Kitsu saying something about it too. Well now here's the update version. I redid his ear and decided on my new way with shading. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 17:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, now he looks like someone stuck their hands in like, five different types of black paint, and rubbed their hands all over him. He needs to be one color, with shading. The ear looks better, though. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 17:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, GB, with some blending his hindquarter will be wonderfully shaded and look nicely 3D. Now, Shim, you just need to get the head and forequarters in the same way and blend everything together. The ear... I would love to see less pink because dark furred cats have dark skin. And the pink nose... Please do away with it, as it looks... rather out of place. Great improvements so far, I look forward to seeing you take it the rest of the way. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Got it Kitsu. Here's the new uploaded version of Crowfeather. I did all what you said, but I think I took out too much pink. Comments please ^_^ -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 00:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think more pink can come out. I hate bright pink ears. They look terribly unnatural. Google some black cat pictures and you'll see what I mean. The hindleg looks great, now blend some more on the forequarters, try and get a more defined shoulder going on, and add shading to the head. You're doing great. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:49, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. Just to let everyone know I shall probably be away for about a week or two. Though a week is the least amount of time I'd give. So if this gets moved I under stand. Just to inform everyone.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 02:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be leaving this one, just so that no one starts their own version of him. This one is darn-near approved, and I'd have to have the work duplicated. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm back! And thank you so much Kitsu for holding Crowfeather. Well here's his updated version. I love how much he has improved.-- Shimmer Crytals 03:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well no one has said anything so I decided to just update Crowfeather some myself.-- Shimmer Crystals 19:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I like the image, but it looks smudged together and could be blended to take away the smudges. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 22:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't blend him anymore believe me I tried, he just keeps looking the same over and over again. Kitsu did say it gave him that 3D effect though. I'll see what I can do tomorrow when I get out of training.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 02:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that the eye is a few shades too dark. Maybe lighten it up a little, without becoming ice blue, or anywhere near it. (Crowfeather must have absoulutely NO similarities to hawkfrost!) Dawnfeather  08:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Personally I think this is really starting to look good. There are a few tiny things I've picked up though. Firstly, on the ear there is an area where it has spilled onto the black lineart and there is actually colour outside of the outline as well. Secondly, the highlighting above the eye needs to be blended a tiny bit more if possible. The eye looks really good in my opinion - I like the different shades you've put in.--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:14, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Voletooth - for approval
Okay, I tried an image of Voletooth. Constructive critisism welcome :)--Sandstar12 21:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

This brown has a slight tan tinge to it. Also, there's something in the background that looks like the shading of a white cat. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I sorted the background and darkened his colour a bit. --Sandstar12 12:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

That's really good! And reallistic! --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 15:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Leopardheart--Sandstar12 15:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm... you could also touch up the pink part of the ear a bit. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I increased the pink colour--Sandstar12 16:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

The color was fine; it's the fact that the ear looks like you just stuck it on and blended. It needs to be more of a triangle shape. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 17:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, how about now?--Sandstar12 18:46, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a good start, but there's still some work to do. The shading needs to be completed (why none on the muzzle?) and the shoulder needs some definition. The ear pink needs some blending, and the shade could be toned down (really bright pink never looks quite right). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I sorted the ear, added some shading around the muzzle and shoulder areas as well as some highlights on the flank and middle chest area. I also blended this shading more thoroughly. -- Sandy 19:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I think its a beautiful pic, Sandy. The shading really gives it a 3D touch and blend. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 19:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Bramble!-- Sandy 20:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Anything else needs doing?-- Sandy 21:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's looking really good, but I have a few things for you. The shoulder/neck shading is a little weird... I think because there's no shading creating any roundness for the head. The tummy/elbow/knee zone is pretty much unshaded and could use some. And the shading could all use a touch more blending, as there are a number of points where things look like markings rather than shading. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I added some shading around the head and on the tummy/knee area. I also blended all the shading more thoroughly-- Sandy 17:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks Great! -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  20:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes! It finally uploaded - I edited the eye to add a highlight :) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Blend it a bit more and mabye add highlights, just a tiny bit, but if highlights destroy the image, just keep it without. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 22:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I blended again and have added a highlight down the shoulders and back. The blending is as much as it will go--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I noticed some blurry outline whilst looking through my images and have fixed that --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:13, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

The shading down his side on his back looks... I don't know,... bumpy? Yeah, I know cats aren't exactly perfetly smooth, but it looks as if his side is covered with various tumors! Dawnfeather 23:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

whoa! Thanks for pointing that out! Is this any better? I might increase the shading now because some of seems to have been lost with the blending...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 10:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Done --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 10:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

There seems to be a splotch on the top of the back leg, and lack of shading in the middle of the tummy/chest. Other than that, it's wonderful. Good work, Sandy. Dawnfeather 08:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Moonflower?
Would we consider Bluestar's mother as an elder or a warrior? Or a queen? Because I'd like to do her and I don't know if I should use the warrior base. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 23:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Anyone out there? -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I'm not sure about this - we don't know whether she ever became an elder do we? I don't think the books ever say her status when she died so I would personally picture her as a warrior unless it states otherwise. -- Sandy 20:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

We practically need a genetic image or those situations when we're just not sure... Maybe someday. And the matter bears discussion... I don't like the idea of just guessing she died in combat without ever retiring. She lived in times of relative peace from what I can tell. The books chronicle times of upheaval, not the status quo of the clans... Anyone else wanna weigh in on this question? <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm... looks like something to ask the authors at the next chat. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Besides, did Secrets of the Clans ever mention her pelt color? 72.81.208.205 15:07, 31 December 2008 (UTC) random quest


 * Moonflower is a long furred white she-cat with golden eyes. I nominate warrior, as she goes to the agthering in secrets of the clans. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  23:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Elders can go to gathering too though - think about Patchpelt and the other elders when Firestar first came to the old forest - they were at the gathering. I can try and find a refernce if you don't remember it <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 09:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Graystripe - for approval
My first try at a character art. i accept criticism and advice. -- Lightning 17:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

1. He has some white specks.

2. He has a blue line on the left side of the pic.

--<font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Woops, the line was a mistake on the part of Paint.net. I think i got the white specks.-- Lightning 18:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

The shading could be increased a bit, but those white flecks... gotta deal with those. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:39, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, the background has to be white. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, you solved the white flecks problem, but the background is still blue, and it looks like you took blurtool and ran it over everything. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

There is a bunch of little black lines......and the darker gray stripe needs to be bigger. His eyes should be more golden brown, too. User:Mallinois
 * Welcome to the project! Thanks you for giving this a go... Let's get things started: The outlines are blurred, and that needs to be fixed. The shading is also a bit small, and really needs to be amped-up and fully blended. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:40, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I always envisioned Graystripe as having a darker, slate grey stripe on his back. With this blank position, that would be a bit hard. I suggest a really dark gray on the back that fades into the normal pelt, blending the stripe with the shading. That would look really nice. Also, maybe add some highlights on the front forelegs. F  x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

The background is colored again. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 15:48, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with GB with the background being colored, but also he looks very fuzzy. Reminds me of one my earlier versions of Crowfeather when Kitsu said it looks as if you're looking at him through glass bottles or something.-- Shimmer Crystals 02:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It looks like hewas run over with a blur-car, and the outline is reallymessy in some places. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 22:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Feathertail - For Approval
Alright, I fixed the pic. Kitsu, I buffed the shading a bit to make it look more 3-d. It is better now? (Sorry about the delay, I am working on Poppyfrost, my first tortie, and having trouble.) F  x  C  22:45, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

What happened to the ear and tail?--Redflare 22:48, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

The poor ear..the poor tail! What did you do to them? Any way, some more blended shading and it would look good. Fix the ear and tail. User:Mallinois  Coyote=background:Black>Coyote   The Doghouse  01:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. I am on my grandparents computer, so using Photobie. I fixed the lineart, at the expense of the transparent background. The background will be brought back as soon as I get back on my own laptop. F x  C  15:58, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The outline's gone really weird in places... If you have GIMP or Photoshop, I recomend just copying the black lineart out of a clean version of the blank, and then pasting it in over the top as it's own later ;) This is acctually a trick I use all the time to keep my lineart clean. Some shading on the head and underside would be nice. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Here s the new version. I pasted the blank and it looks great. As for the shading, I did a bit on the muzzle, as well as the right foreleg. I personally am proud of the improvements. :D Kitsu, does it need a bit more shading in the "tummy" area? I was debating on that. F x  C  15:25, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

The blue eyes look extremely cloudy and dark. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 15:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I will lighten them up a bit, but I always envisioned Silver and Feather as having mysterious, hazy blue eyes a bit like Heathertail. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

This looks pretty clase to approval, just alittle use of the lighten tool and it'll work. Good luck with Poppyfrost! Mallinois  The Doghouse  20:29, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Use the lighten tool on the tail and a bit in the back, and try to even out the colors. Some places are light, and some are dark. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 22:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

The Eye is... extremely dark. Lighten it up a bit!!! -- MU MB LE 785  20:49, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't she have long hair? And a river blue eye? ..::Applestar4904 16:19, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I like it! But she looks to... misty? Like sort of hazy, and I think you might want to darken it a little bit. --Darkhallows 04:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Hazeltail - For Approval
The ear-pink is blended now, whaddya guys think? F x  C  22:45, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * More blending on the patches.User:Mallinois Nov. 23


 * I'm pretty pleased with the blending of the patches, with the exception of 3 places: Tail, right-foreleg, and between the eyes. But shading... Shading is needed. The ear-pink could do with being a touch softer, too. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to place this on hold (if it is possible) to focus on finalizing Feathertail. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Larchkit - For Approval
Hope you like it! Hawktail 00:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a nice start. But I am going to say something I say all the time: Blend. I also have to comment on the ear pink, as it's simply far too pink to look right. And... There's something weird about the tabby... I think it's the angle of the stripes, in addition to how un-integrated with the pelt they are. And the fact that they're conspicuously absent from places they should be (forehead, tail, left foreleg, cheeks). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Blend. Shade. Draw in pupils. Plus, where did the light Brown Belly come from? Coyote=background:Black>Coyote  The Doghouse  21:46, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I dont have time to fix it right now, but there are pupils, look closer Hawktail 23:59, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

This hasn't been updated in a while, so you'll need to get working quick. This really needs blending and shading, and the light brown belly looks unnatural. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 22:10, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Rainwhisker - For Approval
Sorry for the delay, I was on vacation. I added highlights to the old version, and blurred it the best i could. Improving it is up to all of you. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 05:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

He looks like he's... glowing. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 05:14, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I think the pale highlights need blending in a bit more. And possibly the ear needs more blending too-- Sandy 15:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC) <BR><BR>

The ear, actually, is blended perfectly I think. Bramble, this looks great and I'm sure it will be approved. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, FxC! Sandy, I've already blended the highlights as far as they can go. The blur tool won't blur it together anymore. We'll see what Kitsu thinks of them, and maybe I can just take them off. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 23:32, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I love the image of Rainwhisker! But I think that the highlights could be removed or atleast put on running down his back and one on his chest fur. Are you sure thats as far as it can be blend? Overall, lets leave it to Kitsu-- Shimmer Crytals 01:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Bramble really it's too blue and unatural. I suggest adding a more grayish color. Please.--Redflare 15:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It does look blue. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then howled bravely - Ui! 22:16, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Thistleclaw - For Approval
Nobody seems to talk about him very much. I felt bad for Thistle, so i thought I'd color him. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 05:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I love this image - great job-- Sandy 15:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy! -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I only see a few spots that might need improvement. The spot around the ear is an unnatural circle, as well as the line that defines the light grey from the dark grey on the left foreleg. Maybe the shading could be amped up a bit. And some highlights on the forelegs would be nice. Otherwise, this is beautiful, Bramble. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll see about the highlights and amping the shading, but I don't know what you mean about an unnatural circle. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 23:36, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I think FxC means the ear's ending has an unnatural curve...--<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Woof! DoggieDish 17:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow. O.O --Mumble785 14:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I think it looks good, just the ear has an odd curved ending to where it blends into the pelt. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then howled bravely - Ui! 22:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I agree. I think that you could make the shape of the tranistions between the colours seem more random, if that makes absoulutely any sense! Not just on the ear, but on the muzzle and the tail, and it you want to be ridiculously fussy, the foreleg as well. Overall, though, looking good! The shading and blending is perfect! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:53, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Why Bother?
Can't you take images from the books (such as the field guides) with the more major characters?

I think that would be breaking copyright law, and we don't want to do that. Also remember to sign with 4 tildes (~). ZT 12:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

There is more satisfaction in creating the images yourself. Plus, they will be more consistent this way-- Sandy 14:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Mostly, it would be the copyright part. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 15:18, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Hollykit - For Approval


I've coloured Hollykit from the New Prophecy series. My first kit, please comment-- Sandy 14:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

The eyes look... unnatural. And the pink color for the ears and nose looks extremely bright- I can barely see it compared to the pelt. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 15:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

GB, you're saying that because the ears and nose are extremely bright you can barely see it compared to the pelt? That doesn't make any sense. But I do agree about the eyes. They look too shadowy. Maybe if you made a sharp define from the pupil and the colored iris it would look better, Sandy. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've tried to do something with the eyes but I didn't understand the comment about the pink ears and nose...-- Sandy 18:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Um, the eyes still look kinda weird. Could you put the pupils in the same positions on either side? I think that would help Hawktail 23:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Better?-- Sandy 20:12, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

The eyes look great. Now just a touch more of some shading and I think Kitsu will love it C: F  x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I added some more shading. I'm not sure which version I like better though. This one or the old one. What do u guys think?? Is this an improvement or should I work again on the previous image?-- Sandy 18:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Sandy, this looks beautiful! We should just leave this to Kitsu. F x  C  14:26, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks FxC. I'll just leave it as it is then :)-- Sandy 20:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

This looks really nice. Perfect blending, shading, and the eyes DON'T look wierd anymore. I hope it gets accepted. -- Mallinois  The Doghouse  21:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I really like her, and I hope she gets approved but I'm in a fussy mood where I pick up problems where i'm not even sure there are any. I think that the eye colour is a little bit unnatural, and... i don't know, just a bit unnatural. When i first looked at it it seemed a bit weird, so i'm telling you this because first instincts can count for a lot. Thats the only thing that i noticed though, even though i studied it brutally. Good job! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 12:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I lightened the eye colour to make it more of a sky blue opposed to the brighter blue it was before. Thanks Dawnfeather --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks good! I hope it get's approved! Dawnfeather 23:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, so do I --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 09:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

My computer
I can't edit any of my images right now. My computer with GIMP is down, but I'll work on them ASAP. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 03:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Approval
Can i be apart of the project charart, so I can make fursona's? Thornclaw  talk!  03:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

This may sound stupid but...what's a fursona?-- Sandy 07:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Fursonas are different than what Charart designs; fursonas are for personal userpage use, whereas Charart designs pixels and pixel blanks (I think). Fursonas are designed by a user for another user, while the pixels are designed by a user for an article, and fursonas that have been created for a userpage should not be used on an article.–– Σulãlíã 459 678 20:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay thanks Eu-- Sandy 16:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Lionblaze-Withdrawn by user


My next attempt at Lionblaze, blended and shaded. What do you think? -- Mallinois  The Doghouse  01:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I like the other Lionblaze you made better. -- Alice 02:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you need to combine aspects of the two. The body markings from v1 and the tail markings from v2 with the tabby 'm' added too. Also - you had the right idea with the shading on the first one. What I normally do is use the 'darken' tool on a low opacity in appropriate places and blend, then the lighten tool to add highlights. You need to combine the shading of both images without losing the clear cut outline. (ie don't blend the outline) I think that with a bit more work this could be a good image :) It sounds like hard work now, but it could look great! -- Sandy 16:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Also - the ear pink needs blending in to the pelt, as does the white tipped tail (if you're determined to keep it - i'm staying impartial on that debate!!) I personally like what you've done with the eye though-- Sandy 16:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * New version up. Feel free to comment.--<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Blue">The Doghouse  19:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * If I remember correctly, Lionblaze doesn't have a white tiped tail. The shading near his hind leg and front leg seems really dark to go with his pelt too.-- Shimmer Crytals 22:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I tried to fix him...again. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  02:18, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Better, but he still has that white tipped tail.-- Shimmer Crystals 05:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I like the white-tipped tail, as it is used in CotC(page 28). I used CotC to see what he looked like, as I couldn't get a good enough picture of him in my mind. I am playing FireRed(Pokemon) right now, and my grandparents computer doesn't have A program for imaging, so I can't update right now. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I updated again. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed - the shading on the hind legs has entered the background near the belly - it's all gray-- Sandy Leader's Den  19:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I redid the background(made it white) and added a darker tabby M. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I updated for no apparent reason, just thought about seeing how the tabby markings would blend into the pelt and the shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The tabby markings are so hard against his pelt. They look so unnatural that they stick out completely. I liked the last version better.-- Shimmer Crystals 01:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The reason I redid it was because I thought thew tabby markings were so pale... I'll lighten them up. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  23:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. They're still dark==, but that's because when I lightened them they turned yellowish. I blended full time and smudged a bit. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  14:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I updated with thin tabby markings. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 21:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I removed the highlights and added shading like Weaselfur's I did this because I thought my image was messy. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 14:02, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I never imagined Lionblaze as a long-haired tom. I thought of him more on the short-hair side. The eye in perfect. But I think you'll need to start over with the coloring and the strips should not look so "twiggy."-- Thornpath togehodou 05:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

This is the closet I can get to Golden Brown. If I change it, he looks yellow or orange :D! I can see the tabby markings look twiggy, but it looks better that my other ones. I made him long-haired because his name always reminded me of a lion's long mane... -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y is W a t c h i n g. .. 20:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Firstly, I think the ear needs to have the pink put back in a little because it is now the same colour as the pelt. Also, more shading is needed on the belly, head, legs and tail and this needs to be fully blended. I think the problem with the stripes is that there are not enough of them on the tail or head. Also, they are not a consistent colour - parts of each stripe are darker and parts are lighter giving it a strange half-coloured look. The stripes need to be smoother where they split to make them look more natural. Also - on the chest there are a few white spots that need to be coloured. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I would love to keep working on this, but I can't seem to get it right! Oh well, I'm working on to-be blanks right now, so I have to make EIGHT blanks! -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 13:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Whitethroat - For Approval


Okay, I got bored seeing as I currently have nothing else to do on my other images at the moment and decided to colour Whitethroat. Please comment appropriately. -- Sandy 17:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I think you pretty much have this done, except for the paint-like swirlyness. Try blurring full-time. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  22:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Better?-- Sandy 16:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Preety Good. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  23:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Whitethroat also haas white paws -- random guest

Okay, I'll work on that when I have time-- Sandy Leader's Den  10:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

This looks really good. The blending is beautiful, and the shading is great too.-- Jakko 123  15:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I added his paws - thanks for reminding me, I forgot they were white too. Anything else need changing?-- Sandy Leader's Den  12:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

If I could accept it, I sure would! I don't think anything needs to be changed! But that's my opinion. --Mumble785 19:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Mumble :)-- Sandy Leader's Den  20:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Mumble, that's not true. There's still a lot it needs. Sandy, the shade of black you picked is really dark, and it makes it hard to see the eyes. Also, the back paws are still black. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 22:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I lightened the colour and coloured the bcak paws white. I've also added some darker shading along the back and in the other usual places now this is visible.-- Sandy  Leader's Den  12:26, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Better... *nods head and gives two thumbs up* --Mumble785 18:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Perfect. Flamefeather 18:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think he could use a white dot for the pupil...or is it iris? Correct me on the word if I'm wrong. I'm in physical science now and totally forgot everything XD-- Shimmer Crystals 03:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Better?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 13:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

hmm...i edited it and reuploaded but over five hours later and the changes still aren't showing on my cp...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

The change is finally showing. Is this better Shim?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Some of the outline looks changed. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then howled bravely - Ui! 22:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Not that I'm aware of...where do you mean?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it's the further ear (where it meets the head). -- MU MB LE 785  20:43, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Mumble, I didn't spot that. I've fixed the outline now and it should be showing up correctly. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm being ridiculously fussy, but I think that the shape of the white on the front should be a little more random. Just make it staick out in a place or two. Also, the dark shading on the bottom part of the top part of the hind fore-leg (if that makes any sense! I mean the part which is like the knee/thigh) the shading is a little bit weird. It ends in a round shape, instead of smoothly ending. Keep in mind that i am in a cruel, judging unfairly mood, before you are offended by my critism. It is really good! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 13:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not offended Dawnfeather. Thanks for pointing out its faults! I've worked on the legs and tried to smooth the endings out (even though I got confused by which leg you meant!) I also tried to do something with the chest fur...not sure whether it looks better or worse though --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I love it, Sandstar! (Sorry, just a random thought, while thinking of your name. Sanstorm would make a good leader!) I can see no faults anymore! Sorry for confusing you. I even confused myself a little bit too! Dawnfeather 23:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks (and yes she probably would!) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 09:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Deputy Blanks - For Approval
We are in desperate need of pixel blanks, so I thought I'd contribute this sketch of a deputy. Yes, this is my own original drawing. Hope you like it! F x  C  14:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

For a minute I thought these would be good queen blanks... --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  16:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Good, put do you think you think youcan thicken the linesRedflare 21:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

There needs to be a male shorthaired, a male longhaired, a female shorthaired, and a female longhaired. -- random guest

Yes, I know, random guest. This is my first post, and if people like it I will then post female shorthair, female longhair, and male longhair. F x  C  13:34, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

"Random Guest" is am IP address. I think the blanks look good, just need to thicken the outline and fix the further ear. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  13:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Mallinois. --Mumble785 23:42, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Very realistic. One of the best I've seen. The further hind leg could be shorter, and the further ear needs a little work. Great Job!!! Flamefeather 14:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

The paws look a little cartoon-ish. Darkhallows 9:14, 2nd Feb 2009

I agree w/ Darkhollows. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then howled bravely - Ui! 22:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

It's a fairly good drawing, but I don't think it'll be accepted. Sorry! Please take no offense! (Please don't hate me!) <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 13:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Fireheart for Approval


I know, he needs improvements. I can't get GIMP, but I'll try my best on paint and soon I might get a photo editor. Now, I need some advice!!! --Mumble785 01:40, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

First off, it is Fireheart, not FireHeart. There is barely any shading, but where there is it isn't blended. The color could be more of an orange, it looks reddish to me. A good start, just needs improvement.-- Jakko 123  02:23, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I'll use your advice to improve it, since I know have a program that has the "blend" tool. ;) I'll get him reuploaded and improved in no time. --Mumble785 22:38, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Ok, so I added more shading, blended the shading, made him more orange than red, spent more time on the eye and added the ear pink becase I felt like it. Is that better? --Mumble785 23:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

It needs much more shading, and hightlights need to be added. Ginger is the same as pale red tabby, so you need tabby stripes and more of a "flame colored" pelt. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  01:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, two questions: 1.) Are the blended stripes gonna be horizontal or vertical? 2.) Where are the places I missed with shading? --Mumble785 01:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't actually think it needs more shading. Maybe down the belly wold be nice. When we mean blended, we mean make it go nice into the orange color. There should be more of a faded boundary then a thick, straight boundary.-- Jakko 123  15:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

kk. I'll add a teensy bit more shading down the belly, and maybe a little on the hind leg wouldn't hurt... --Mumble785 18:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I added and improved my shading on the chest, belly, and legs. Is that better? --Mumble785 18:40, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I saw that you couldn't get GIMP and sometimes I don't use it when my computer is very slow. Try pixlr.com, its like an online photoshop. I use it a lot and it actually works rather well. You can upload this image using the url on there so u can edit it, then you can save it. It has all the same effects as photoshop and GIMP. If you need help using it leave a message on my talk page. And with the image, it needs shading on the back and its sorta fuzzy. Did you save it as JPG? Try PNG file type. It works a lot better :) -- Shimmer Crystals 02:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

There needs to be more shading on the back, head and muzzle. A tinge of "Fire-color" needs to be added. This color is too orange, it needs to be more reddish orange. And there are a lot of unneeded color blotches...it looks too pixelish now. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, the eye looks a little wierd. I don't really know what's happened to it...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The eye has that creept zombie thing going on..., so try what I do. Color in the middle four spaces the color of the eye. Than color the top right white, and the top left black. Works like a charm.(By the way, cool sig Sandy) --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  14:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I'll work on it! --Mumble785 18:16, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

REUPLOADED once again. I redid the whole image using paint and pixlr. I love that program now! Ok, a improved and added shading, added highlights to the back, made him more reddish, and did the eye using Malinois's method. What do you think? --Mumble785 16:37, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Much better but could use some shading on the back.-- Shimmer Crystals 05:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

kk. I'm on it! --Mumble785 17:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Added a teensy bit of shading on the back above the highlights. --Mumble785 17:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Add the tabby "m" and tabby stripes. For reference, use Dustpelt and Squirrelflight's pics. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I have a small doubt and a good feeling about him now. I made him simalar to Squirrelflight. You like? --Mumble785 23:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

A bit better, but I think the tabby markings stick out too much. Well not think, I'm positive. They seem bright against his pelt. Also some of the shading seems closer to the black outline. I'm not sure if this is my computer or something.-- Shimmer Crystals 01:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I'll make the tabby markings blend into his coat more. --Mumble785 23:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Is that good, or did I over-do it? --Mumble785 23:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Better, but it looks a bit blurry behind his ear in the back.-- Shimmer Crystals 00:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you outlined the whole image. Did you smudge out the outline for shading? --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  16:15, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I sharpened behind the ear, and no I didn't smudge the outline. --Mumble785 21:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Better, but for his eyes did you use a really dark green or leave them black? Fireheart(star whatever...) has emerald green eyes.-- Shimmer Crystals 03:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I used a light green for the eyes. I'll make it more emerald... -- MU MB LE 785  18:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

He needs a little light in him. Try adding highlights. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:16, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

ok. -- MU MB LE 785  18:58, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I made the eye darker and added a little bit of highlighting. -- MU MB LE 785  20:30, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

He is very...bright. Is there any way to tone it down a little? (to make it look more natural cat coloured) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, like, turn down the... um... hang on, I'll get the word it the moment... contrast, or brightness down a bit? Also, I think there needs to be more shading behind the shoulder and under the head on the neck, like on Gorse's Weaselfur. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 13:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I'll work on that. Until I get the renovations done though, i'm putting it on hold. -- MU MB LE 785  17:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Applekit - For Approval


Okay, I know there are a lot of images up for approval right now, but I got bored waiting for progress on the ones I already have up and so I started work on some others. Well, here's Applekit (sc)-- Sandy Leader's Den  17:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

It's adowable!!!!!!! One thing I say though is that it needs to be darker, as Applekit is dark ginger. Other than that, it's cute(Mallinois like cute :) --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  19:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Better now? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 15:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[And thanks Mallinois :)]--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 15:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Much better. She looks like a wittle apple! I guess thatr's why they named her Applekit. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  16:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Is there anything else anyone thinks I need to do with this image at the moment?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I found that she still needs to be darker, and mabye add tiny tabby markings... -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:17, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've made her darker. I'm not sure about the tabby markings but I'll work on it -<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Pouncetail - For Approval


Again, a product of my boredom in the christmas holidays! Plesae comment as you see fit-- Sandy Leader's Den  17:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I think you need more shading, or you need to make it darker. --Mumble785 17:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I've finally gotten around to working on this again :) Sorry for the delay. Is this any better? <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Updated the eye. Are there any more comments?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I think you need a more orange ginger, like Brightheart's (approved) patches. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Better? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I like, I like. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 13:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Dawnfeather. Is there anything else anyone thinks needs doing? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I just noticed something. On the far front leg, it is a very sudden change between the white and ginger. (wow, i just noticed while writing all of these comments and getting so many back from you about your work, which is truly awesome, by the way, that you have so many up, and you are managing to work well on all of them at once! Good work!) That's all though. Dawnfeather 23:21, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

(Lol. I have no life! No, really I'm just very organised. I put these up before I had any idea that the page would get as crowded as it is now...) I'll sort it. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 09:46, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, better? (and thank you by the way) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 10:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Scourge?
I've been wondering...I really want to make an image of Scourge, but would we have to wait for a loner template? Well he really isn't a loner, but maybe a rouge, but was Leader of BloodClan so would he be leader? Its very confusing and I'm wondering what others think?-- Shimmer Crystals 20:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, since BloodClan isn't really a real clan, I would wait for a Rouge template.--Mumble785 15:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Do we even need rogue/Loner and Kittypet blanks? --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  18:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I think that you do need them. Smudge, Sasha, Purdy, and all the others deserve their pixels. And what about the Tribe? Do you thionk you guys should do pixels for each position, or just one called Tribe cat? 72.81.208.205 23:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)random quest

Just a tribe cat is what I think. But down in the tribe of rushing water article below, the different positions are just called a different thing. The to-bes are apprentices, etc. --Mumble785 17:36, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

The Tribe of Rushing Water
Should there be a blank for each indivisual position, such as a Prey-hunter or a Kit-mother, or should there just be one blank to be used for every single tribe cat? And should Stormfur be considered a Cave-guard or a Prey-hunter? 72.81.208.205 23:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC) Random Quest

Okay, you stopped signing random guest! No, I don't think we need them because (1).Cave-Guards are just like warriors, as like prey-hunters. (2). Kit-mothers and kits are like queens and kits, so we just need a queen blank (3).Healers would probably use a medicine cat blank, as they are more of a medicine cat (4). To-Bes are just like apprentices --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  17:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, but remember when the tribe is first introduced? They look different than Clan cats. Their fur is more matted from the mud the rub in their fur. They're smaller than Clan cats, as well, with larger leg muscles to aid catching their prey, hawks and eagles.–– Σulãlíã 459 678 21:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

As is Skyclan, but we didn't make specific blanks for them. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  00:08, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Well actually SkyClan could use the same templates since they are apart of the original 5 Clans, but just aren't around anymore you know. They still have a leader, deputy, apprentices, queens, medicine cat, and medicine cat apprentice too. The only thing different about them is that they have strong limbs which is well their trademark if you will say. WindClan are swift, RiverClan can swim, ThunderClan loyal and great hunters, ShadowClan mysterious I guess you could say. Now for the tribe I say yes because Teller of Pointed Stones does change over time and will always receive that name and they are leader and medicine cat combined. So that throws out just using a medince cat template even if they are healer and can hear their warrior ancestors. Like Eu said they are smaller with larger leg muscles as well making them totally different. So I strongly agree they need a template along with loners, rouges, and kittypets.-- Shimmer Crystals 05:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I'm actually working on a blank for prey-hunters. F x  C  13:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Clovertail for approval


A piece of artwok that I am throwing at you because I got bored, once again. I need advice! --Mumble785 17:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

You're adding a highlight down the back, instead of shading. As I have said, use Gorse's Weaselfur as a model for shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  21:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

You can add a highlight too, but I think you need a thicker band of shading behind it before the highlight--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 16:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Is that better? --Mumble785 00:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I can see that the outline's blended. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 23:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Better? I also added more shading. -- MU MB LE 785  18:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

It looks too dark. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

ok. i need to put some of my images on hold, including this one. not able to be as active as I used to. :( -- MU MB LE 785  18:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think there is anything to fix in this. It's really good, I think it's the best one I've seen so far. Can someone please approve this? Please.-- Thornpath togehodou 05:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

-Gets excited- Thanks, Thornpath! -- MU MB LE 785  20:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I love it, i really do, but i think that the shading under the chin is a little bit weird. Have a look at weasel fur, and try and make the shading there stick out a little more underneath the head? Dawnfeather 23:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok. -- MU MB LE 785  17:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Mosskit - For Approval
Here's my go at Mosskit (Bluestar's dead kit). The gender isn't really specified but I went with female. F x  C  15:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean male. Anyway, Mosskit is Blue-gray in Secrets of the Clans, and when he sees Snowfur for the first time it says he has green eyes. --72.34.4.6 17:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

No, she meant female. That wouldn't likely be a typo. FxC, I think Mosskit is supposed to be male. The only time it calls him female is in Cats of the Clans. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

On page 78 of SotC, it says: Mosskit hesitated, looking up at me with wide green eyes. "But what about my mother." --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  19:04, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Mallinois, could you please give a reference for that? GB, it was a typo. I meant male. And anyway, could you please comment on the actual artwork? F x  C  23:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

It could use a bit more blending, and The eyes make it look...Wise and old. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  23:18, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

More blending of the shading is needed - also, the background needs to be transparent. <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 15:05, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Gorsepaw-Withdrawn by User
I really wante to do a ginger and white cat like Brightheart, so I did Gorsepaw, the only other cat availible. Comments needed. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 23:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I like that the picture is not cloudy. It's a little to shiny to me though and the shadow under the chin looks a little out of place. I never liked this outline for the apprentices, the tail for the short haired cats looks dead and I don't like the idea of having a completely different style from the warriors. I think the apprentices should look more like younger versions of the warrior pixels. Good coloring though and I like the eyes. Perhaps you could make the white fur more of a creamy and warm color.--Thornpath 00:18, 20 January 2009 (UTC)Thornpath

The fur is white, so I can't modify that, but I'll blend the neck shading if I need to. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 23:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Make the pink on the ear a little smaller, it seems a little... like it is taking over.--Darkhallows 23:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Withdrawing. -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 13:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Can I join to draw???
I'm really good w/ paint; and I can also do real drawing of cats if those are acceptable. I can show you examples..... Give me a small while

Kaboo08 17:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)Flamefeather

Update: Wikia doesn't like my file type. GRRR!!!! Will think of something.

Kaboo08 18:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)Flamefeather

Why don't you try changing the file format? Most computers have this little arrow under the name of the file. If you just select GIF or PNG, the wiki should like it. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 13:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! It works! Kaboo08 19:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

I highly doubt these will be accepted. You didn't use the blanks at all, and these aren't the kind of pics you would see in an encyclpedia. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 19:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, these are just to show my abilities, thier examples. Maybe I can work on the real ones, I would really love to. Look below, I tried Dawnpaw as an apprentice blank. I accept constructive critism. Kaboo08 20:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

This isn't to be mean, but the lines are a little shaky, I find zooming in and correcting that works nicely. Also there is no shading, and thats most of what we have to do right? Coloring. And Shading. Darkhallows

I'm removing the pictures to aviod confusion for when our new project leader is appointed. If you want examples, see Dawnpaw below. Flamefeather 19:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Miscellaneous

 * I have a couple things to say. First off, if anyone wants to contact Kitsu, you can at her RP (cosc.kitsufox.com). Also, this page is getting overloaded with new cats. Mallinois and Mumble (not trying to be mean but...) I wouldn't make another picture and just improve other ones. Thanks-- Jakko 123  21:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * No. People should not be using my RP to contact me with information about this Wiki. I'm going to be going through an looking at things soon (I've been busy with other responsibilities), and talking to Eu about some suggestions for additional people to help guide the project. Under no circumstances should I be getting queries about this play anywhere but my talk page. But Jakko is RIGHT. Limit yourselves to a single pixel posted at a time, PLEASE. At least until I get time to do some setup and streamlining of the process here. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 19:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok. -- MU MB LE 785  20:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Swiftpaw for Approval - On Hold


I made Swiftpaw of ThunderClan. Questions are encouraged. ZZ Top <font color="LimeGreen">Get Your Wings  This House Is On Fire  23:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I've got one. Did you use paint? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes I did. ZZ Top <font color="LimeGreen">Get Your Wings  This House Is On Fire  00:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

This image needs some shading and highlighting, ZZ Top. Also, maybe the eye colour should be changed to make it more noticable - at the moment I can't even tell what colour his eyes are, all I can see is the white speck. The ears need the tiny pink bit put in as well. look at some of the approved images - possibly Nightcloud (or Rockpaw) seeing as she's black to see how this is supposed to look for a black cat. <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Try using a very dark gray. It's hard to shade with true black. If you want to blend, try using pixlr.com. It has blurtool. Shim told Mumble to use this, and his images look okay. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 13:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Yup its true pixlr works fine. Also..how are you saving this image? It looks like your saving it gif or jpg then reuploading it by paint making the shading all well weird. And yes it is a bit hard to shade with true black so try something a bit darker to my Crowfeather image. After all, Crowfeather is a cat close to black but not true black at all.-- Shimmer Crystals 02:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to put this one o hold for a while. I am working really hard to make rouge blanks. And when you're the worst user of paint in Wisconsin, it takes tons of time and effort to get it done. Feel free to comment still. ZZ Top <font color="LimeGreen">Get Your Wings  This House Is On Fire  12:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I think you can't put it on hold, but you can withdraw it. And you're the worst user of paint ever? Join the club. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y i s W a t c h i n g 13:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

ZZ Top, this page is way to cluttered. Withdraw this or work on it, please. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 18:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

There is no shading, and the eye is ocmpletely black, minus on white pixel. Dawnfeather 23:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
A lot of you have probably seen this coming, given my inactivity. I first joined as leader of this project around two years ago, and it has changed a lot since then. Frankly, I've found it too time-consuming of late to be fully active in this project for some time, not to mention I have many other obligations in my life that, unfortunately, are much higher on my priority list. So, for the Wiki's sake and for mine, I will be stepping down and would like to request that the question of my successor be left to Eu and Kitsu. I apologize for taking so long on this. I wish the Wiki good luck in its attempt to add as accurate and professional information as possible. Gorse 20:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I think Kitsu should take over. She's really good with the art. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 21:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

We need someone with a knack for computer art, and an iron fist. Someone who isn't afraid to say what's really wrong with the picture. (Basiclly screams Kitsu!)-- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 22:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree but like Kitsu said earlier we are going to need more people to help lead this project. Those who tend to stay active a lot so this place won't crowd up like how it is now. Its getting ridiculously long. Please can we just not have any more submitted until Kitsu returns?-- Shimmer Crystals 02:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes...I forgot about that. How about someone who's here almost every day, and comments alot on the project. Also someone who's not afraid to say what's really wrong with the image. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 15:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Dawnpaw-for approval


I tried my first one. I did Dawnpaw, coloring on paint and then blurring on pixlr.com. It worked, I think she turned out good! Give me constructive critism, I can improve her! Kaboo08 20:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

I can see you worked up the outline. The eye looks wierd, and I just want to say good blending. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 20:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to fixing the eye real soon. Thanks Kaboo08 20:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

Got a new eye version up Kaboo08 20:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

You know, you could just change the inage. This is my Dawnpaw. I stopped doing it because I had other pics. Try using it for reference. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 20:51, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

My computer won't take me to the page to see your Dawnpaw. Any idea why??? Flamefeather 14:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

It's because the page no longer exists since Mallinois deleted the image. (I think anyway - it's a redlink now) I think the first eye looked better than the second - the second one looks too...big, and out of position. Try keeping the eye outline balck and coloring the center. The shading is fairly good although I would suggest blending the highlighting on the back in more. Also - the ear pink needs a tad bit more blending to make it look more natural <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Opps! The second drawing is listed first. I'll delete the my first attempt and work on shading. Flamefeather 21:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm bored and haven't updated her in a while, so I worked on the forlegs and highlights. Flamefeather 15:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I think you overused the sharpen tool, and the eye has purple around it, and it looks blotchy. I would strongly suggest consulting Mr.Blurtool and try to make it less blotchy and sharp-looking. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y is W a t c h i n g. .. 23:35, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Spiderleg-for approval
User: Darkhallows I was bored, so I decided to do some art.

The coding was wrong. I fixed it. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 23:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

The image is blotchy, there's no shading, and it has blotches of white. The brown belly needs blending into the pelt. The eye also looks wierd. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 23:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I worked with it, is it better? user: Darkhallows


 * The brown belly is perfect, but the ears look unatural almost white? Make them a different pink but blur them because how black cats' ears are. Look at a few pictures for reference.-- Shimmer Crystals 02:56, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I fixed the ear. I wanted to point out this is my first time with the art and I'd like to join or whatever.user: Darkhallows

I really like the belly. But the eyes look like he had too much coffee, and there's something about the ears... <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * He took my advice at looking at pictures of black cats. Good, but you didn't have to add the extra hair on the ears. You could just blend the pink in more and smudge black around it giving the fur over taking it affect.-- Shimmer Crystals 02:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

She. I didn't look at pictures, just my cat. (His name is Spider, oddly enough). But yeah should I blend it or not?


 * Oopsies XD sorry Darkhallows. She did! You'd be better off blending them in well.-- Shimmer Crystals 03:53, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the ear I also tried to redo the eye, but I don't like it... Darkhallows 01:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't either. He looks like he has invisible hooks pulling his eyes back. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 19:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I couldn't agree more. I tried again. UGH I've never had problems with eyes before.--Darkhallows 09:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, is the ear to bright? Darkhallows 01:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes...I'd say the ear is a little bright. I think you need to chose a darker pink (see some of the accepted black cat pixils for a colour idea) and blend it into the pelt a lot more thoroughly. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Is it better now? Darkhallows 09:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

It is better than it was before. You could still go for a deeper pink if you wish though. This looks good --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

The back and the face anre amazingly blended, but the belly doesn't look like it has been blended at all. Dawnfeather 23:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I see what you two mean... I'm working on it now, hopefully it's updated by the time you read this. --Darkhallows 03:38, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Queen Blanks that are for approval
Hello, I'm new to wikis in general(so I appologize if I make mistakes)! I decided to start out with these blanks that I made in photoshop. Hope they get approved! I'm open to any constructive criticism. --Melonlemon 03:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

These look great! The front legs could be a little longer, but overall good job! Realistic, and you made them look nice and pudgy! lol. Flamefeather 12:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Very good job! One thing I'd like to say is make the eye like the warrior blanks and straighten the muzzle expression to make it look less cartoony. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 13:21, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, you'll need to scale the real blank down in size to match the warrior blanks. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 16:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Updated! Thanks everyone! They are pudgy because they are preggo cats XD I thought it would distinct the queens well hehe. I changed the eyes to be blank; I changed the mouth to be less "smiley". I did not change the front legs, because I realised the problem was that I made the body too long; the legs should now be closer to the proper leg-body proportions. I also got rid of the extra white space around them so they are bigger-looking in the thumbnail. I'll try to scale down the pictures soon, but I think it is a bit of a problem because these queen blanks are horizontaly posed, not verticaly posed like the other blanks. But we'll see! Thank you guys for the input <3 any more critique is welcome! --Melonlemon 03:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * These are awesome! The only thing I hope is that you don't go through the same thing I did with Sandstorm because there was another one up for being approved so they might get rid of it quickly. I know some who might jump to that, but the other blank hasn't been update for a while so I think you might have a good shot at this. I'm not sure why this is bugging me, but the shape of the back it just seems so humped up.-- Shimmer Crystals 04:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you ^^ yeah I feel also kinda nervous about an ordeal like that. XC another update: I scaled them. I'lll clean up the line art as I add more tweaks to them. Will fix the hump. XD --Melonlemon 04:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Good job with your scaling. Even if that ordeal does happen, just reupload it again later XD. I think these will be perfect queen blanks. I agree with you leaving the eyes blank, but maybe atleast add a pupil or something. I forget what that other part in your eye is called. -- Shimmer Crystals 05:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, there can be more than one up for approval. Shim, your Sandstorm was declined so quickly for being way too small. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 13:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

It looks better! I love the expression they have! You did really well at getting them pudgy, but not looking like footballs with four sticks, a head, and a tail. I've seen preggo drawings like that. Better than I could ever do. Flamefeather 18:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

They should be updated, but the images haven't been overidden yet. It is taking a long time Dx when the changes show up, there should not be a 'bump' in the back, with cleaner lineart. I decided to leave the eyes blank still. People can add in the pupil if they want to, or something (this can change if you really need it). Again, thanks for the crits! --Melonlemon 01:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

They finally updated! the changes happened finally. :D --Melonlemon 01:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow! I really like these. The only thing is that the closer front paw looks a little off to me. Otherwise good.Darkhallows


 * On the long haired base, there's a white line above the back. It looks like where the lineart was place to seperated it from the background.-- Shimmer Crystals 03:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Updated. Sorry for the long wait. Straightened up the paw and fixed the white! --Melonlemon 19:27, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * gasp* Ok, ok. I admit it! your good. but... but, but, but... I'm watchin' you. o.O -- MU MB LE 785  18:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

On the tail (long-hair) there is some fur sticking up, half-way down, and it looks rather unnatural. EDIT- of course, I hit 'save page' without signing first--Darkhallows 23:09, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

These look really really good! The only thing I suggest is that you don't enclose the toes with the lineart completely on the hind leg. It kind of makes it look like the toes are separated more from the rest of the foot. Do you know what I mean? If not ignore me I'm just nit-picking, and I'm not a pro at cats either. They look great! :) --Goldencloud 03:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I think that the ears are too big, like mice or rabbit's ears! (No offense!) <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 13:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Firestar: For Approval


I drew Firestar. Please let me know what you think. Constructive criticism is definitely appreciated. Thanks! Sparrowsong 05:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * FireSTAR is a leader, please wait for a leader blank.Darkhallows

Oops. Do you still like it, though? Sparrowsong 16:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't matter; this can't be accepted. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 22:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Even if is was a leader blank, it has absolutly no blending and I can tell it was made with paint. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 22:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I did make it in paint, but I had to because I don't have photoshop. And yes, I know it's not perfect. Nevermind, I know it would never be accepted. Sparrowsong 23:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you just go and download GIMP or use pixlr.com? It easier than doing this with paint. Besides I think if we're making everycat have a picture for their different stages, all Firestar pictures (from kittypet to leader) should be the same color as well.-- Shimmer Crystals 03:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

You need to wait for the leader blank, you need to make him ginger, (not yellow) you need more shading, and he's a tabby so you need the tabby markings. Look at my pic, FireHEART, for examples on coloring. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  18:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Sandstorm - For Approval
I made Sandstorm. If you look closely, you can see the stripes, as stated on her page. Constructive criticism is appreciated. Gοlδεnpαω User Talk!

I'd make the stripes a little more visible. But I really like it. Nice work! Darkhallows

I like the colour you've chosen but would suggest blending the shading around the hind legs a little more just to make it a more natural transition between the two colours --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 11:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Updated with darker stripes and better shading.^_^ Gοlδεnpαω  User Talk! 23:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks amazing. -- Jay feather 20:22, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

The outline is blurred in some places. Darkhallows 05:39, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I also noticed you're using triangle cartoon tabby markings. Please don't use those. Try useing tabby pictures like Squirrelflight or Dustpelt for refernce. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y i s W a t c h i n g 00:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Updated with the best tabby markings I could make.^_^; -- Gοlδεn pαω 01:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

WHOA!!! What did you do to her!?!? Your still using stripes. Very smudgy, huge stripes. Try jagged Y's for the markings, like my Fireheart and Squirrelflight. (Still mumble, still lazy.) --68.102.111.72 19:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, her page describes her as having stripes, not tabby markings.-- Gοlδεn pαω 22:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Berrynose
Hi, this is my first entry! I hope you like it. I did it on corel painter essentials 4.-- Thornpath togehodou
 * I know Berrynose is cream, but it looks you just gave him a bunch of orange lines on a white background. Plus there needs to be shading and that means tons of that.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 04:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

The tail certainly needs fixing. Badly. The outline is also very thin. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="Limegreen" style="background:Black">lin  ois  14:34, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Update:Okay, I took some advice and added some shading. Also, I took someones advice and changed the coloring a bit. What do you think-- Thornpath togehodou 21:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you please explain how the tail needs fixing?--Thornpath 20:07, 15 February 2009 (UTC)Thornpath

It doesn't. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 20:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I think the fur coloring is -extremely- well done! My only crit is that I think the eyes should appear more amber in colour; right now it looks a little black. --Melonlemon 02:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Isn't Berrynose's nose supposed to be a stunning pink (via the name and Firestar's Quest)? -- MU MB LE 785  18:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Um, well on these blanks it doesn't give you the choice to color in the nose.-- Thornpath togehodou 05:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I know about the fox trap and how his tail died, but I mean use the short-haired blank's tail to make it shorter. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Mal <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">lin ois  00:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

NOW it looks good. Just need to fix the blurred outline. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib - Ui! 19:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I did use the short haired blanks. Leafpool might not of cut it that short. And she bit it off when he still had kitten fur. His tail fur could of grown unnaturally.-- Thornpath togehodou 05:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I really like it, but the lines on the throat are slightly colored brown.--Darkhallows 01:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

New Blanks
Look at this! This will put all the troubles of blanks and coloring away! All you have to do is do the basic coat on this game, hit done, hit the print screen button on your keyboard, paste it into any word or paint program, crop it and add more detail, and tada! This eliminates all the trouble of filling in the basic coat, and you can change the outline from foreign (very little fur), short hair, and long hair, so it's like three outlines in one. Because Kitsufox is a member of deviantart, she can ask permission of this user, and we can give credit to the person who made it.

I know that you may not want to use it, but I'm not very good at drawing and stuff in paint programs and I noticed you need several new blanks, so this can work.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I like making our own. That would take all the fun out of it! Darkhallows 01:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

They are really awesome, but it does not distinguish male and female(as I think we are aiming for), and would still only be for one rank. Plus, I also like making our own, as Darkhallows said XD --Melonlemon 02:15, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Darkhallows. I we did that, where would the fun go? -- MU MB LE 785  18:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, but you still need to do shading and making more distinguishing marks, such as Brightheart's scars or Berrynose's missing tail.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:29, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Leader Blanks- For Approval
Hello again! :) We are in dire need for some leader blanks, so I'm trying to make some. Some of the line art (especially the longhaired ones) might be a little messy. Critique well appreciated! ---Melonlemon 02:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

These are great! But I would make more of a gender difference. Thin down the females legs maybe.Darkhallows 07:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Not sure I agree that a bigger gender difference is needed...There's already the difference between the eye shape and the differences in chest fur and body shape. These are really good Melonlemon, the position they're sat in is very regal, just how I would expect a leader to be sat. Something about the ears is annoying me slightly though...I think they may be a little too big on the insides...maybe. I like these images though. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I love these. They're sooo awesome. I'm allowed to say that because I'm not also doing leader blanks. I'm still watching... O.o -- MU MB LE 785  17:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

These look like... mice. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

GB! You can't say that!! They don't look like mice at all, don't worry :) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Sandstar, I can say what I want, thanks :/. They do look like oversized mice. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 20:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

They good and all but the ears look a bit big, or like GB said, makes it look like mice. Maybe make them a bit shorter or something. <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">Sky <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">feather <font color="Lightgreen" style="background:Black">1995 20:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

[GB - No need to be touchy, it was meant in a friendly way. But so as not to let this get in the way of the actual images...]Skyfeather is right Melonlemon --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Fixing spacing images and sections problem... --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib - Ui! 00:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

hehe, they do look like mice! XD Thanks for pointing that out, I posted them here for crits after all. I agree about the ears. in any case, I'll find some time later to fix that. And thanks Mallinois! --Melonlemon 06:23, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

These look really cool! What would make then look even better is if you don't make them smile. Ya know, something more serious looking. Also, I suggest making the eyes a bit bigger and ad a pupil. Really awesome though.-- Thornpath togehodou 00:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Super Update! Finally got the time to work on them. Now they are more realistic. Thanks everyone! --Melonlemon 04:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I love these! Someone please approve of them! They could be leader pics or deputy pics.-- Thornpath togehodou 00:27, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

OMG!!! I'll finally get to do bluestar!!! YAY!!! I es LOVE dem!!! -- MU MB LE 785  19:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Good work Melonlemon, but I do have a few suggestions. On the short-haired male you have a line which I'm guessing you're trying to show where the neck and shoulder connect. You could either keep this and add it to the others or delete from this pic. I say they look best without it though. On the male long-haired his chest fur is connected with his chin which looks down right awkward. Also his leg fur are connected together (his hind leg and foreleg)while all the other templates are spaced out. Please fix this. Overall the females are fantastic! Keep all your fantastic work up-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 02:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm.. .I see what you mean! Unfortunately, I won't be able to work on these (or the queen ones) in about 2 weeks because I will be on vacation :U Gotta go! See ya ;) --Melonlemon 02:57, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

These are AWESOME! I can see no fault. The line on the shoulder of the male longhair looks good to me, not out of place at all. Dawnfeather 23:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Breezepelt for approval


I was bored so I did some cats. I'm getting better at this! Flam efeat her 20:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Please move these into two different sections. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 20:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I like them! Needs shading, though. Oh, yeah, different section.;) --Warrior♥ 21:46, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I put them into two sections. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib - Ui! 00:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink needs more blending and maybe try adding a highlight down the back?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Darkstripe for approval



 * Voila. Two sections. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib [[Image:Himatsu.PNG|50px]] - Ui! 00:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Needs blending, and Darkdtripe is gray and black, not brown. His eyes should be either blue or pale yellow. That's what he's been mentioned with. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib [[Image:Himatsu.PNG|50px]] - Ui! 00:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Updated to be gray and black. I originally made it as a Dustpelt, but one's already submitted. I alway thought of Darkstripe as brown (bad, bad me). He's gray/black now. Flam efeat her 20:23, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I would add more shading to it, he looks a little plain. Also the eye color doesn't show through very well. Darkhallows 23:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, the ears pink needs blending into the pelt - it's too bright and stand-out-ish at the moment. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:59, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

This looks really nice! I love the colours you used. The only thing that needs fixing is the shadowing (which needs to be put in between the leg and front leg and under the ear. Also, and some stripes on the tail and then your all set!-- Thornpath togehodou 05:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

thanks everyone! Updated to have more shading, blended ear, striped tail. Flam efeat her 12:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

It's an improvement but still more shading needed I think. Try adding some on the head, back and legs--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Brownpaw-For Approval


I have no idea if this is any good, I almost never color like this. But whatever... I felt kind of bad that he was around for five books and was never made a warrior, and then he poofed.--Darkhallows 10:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it's pretty good! I do feel sorry for Brownpaw, and any other cat that never gets to become a warrior. Can I make a suggestion? I think you should add some more smaller stripes on his back and hind leg. Just a suggestion, though! --Goldencloud 03:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

The thing is I added that little dark patch on his hindleg, to sort of complete the leg, so stripes would be awkward looking, I can add more on the back though. Darkhallows 05:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

You need to blend the stripes. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Better? Darkhallows 01:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

No one was commenting, so I updated it myself. Darkhallows 08:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Heathertail (For Approval)
I hope this is acceptable for character art, this is the first one of these I've done. I did this on Photoshop Elements 6, with my mouse. Do you guys think she's too dark? She's described as a light brown tabby, and to me she looks light brown. Anything that you say needs fixed I will be happy to fix! I'm sorry if this sounds like a deviantART comment that's what I'm used to writing. :) --Goldencloud 03:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT1 - I lightened her up a bit, but I tried to keep the stripes a little bit darker. And I added the stripes on the back of her neck. Thank you for the advice! --Goldencloud 00:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT2 - Completely redid her fur. I tried to "randomize" the stripes and make them more squiggly sort of, and made her even lighter. If the stripes are still "cartoony" or look like tatoos, I'm going to need more specific help. :) --Goldencloud 22:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

First off, welcome to Charart. Onto the image, I like it. I would make her a little lighter though. Darkhallows 05:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! And done! --Goldencloud 02:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

omG, I love it! -- MU MB LE 785  18:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Goldencloud 02:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

As much as this is loved, her tabby markings look like tatoos, especially the one coming from her eye. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y is W a t c h i n g. .. 23:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. How can I fix it? --Goldencloud 02:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I personally like that...Darkhallows 04:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

OooLala! Very nice! I did at first expect her to look a little for of a golden colour like in the cats of the clans but this is really nice. I just hope that if they approve of this picture that they won't expect the rest of us to make ours look that good. (that's sorta a compliment)-- Thornpath togehodou 05:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

This really has issues. The tabby markings are WAY too cartoony, and they still look like a henna artist did them. The image also looks in need of a lighter color, as Heathertail is light brown. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y i s W a t c h i n g 00:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't fix it until I know how to. Okay, they look cartoony. How do I make them look more realistic? And she IS light brown. --Goldencloud 21:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the tabby markings are "cartoony," but they do kinda look like tatoos. Maybe try to blend them more, and get rid of the one coming from the eye. That should make it look better. EDIT~ I did it again! What is up with me and my timesignatures? Gosh!!! -- MU MB LE 785  20:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll try that. Don't worry about the timesignature thing, I forget all the time! --Goldencloud 21:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Joining
Could I join?--<font color="BlueGreen" style="background:Black">Nightgaze <font color="White" style="background:Blue">Iceberry’s Den 02:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think you have to ask to join, I didn't. Just color a cat that hasn't been done yet and post it. --Goldencloud 02:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

You're not a member of PCA just because you post a pic, you have to ask to join. Plus, might I suggest just drawing pictures for now. Kitsu is very busy, so we don't have a s much time for this now. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y is W a t c h i n g. .. 22:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well actually, I didn't even ask to join when I made my first images, Squrrielflight and Crowfeather (who needs so more comments please). I just worked really hard on them until one was accepted. I believe if you just keep working on the images, being devoted, and giving advices to the others you become a member.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 23:57, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Leader pixle


Hey, I have another leader pixle. Here it is. It's really simple. Just seeing if these will do. I also have a girl medicine cat somewhere. I'll put it up later. thanks guys! --MERLOCK 23:26, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the coding. They are alright, but there is really not much detail, not even whiskers. There will need to be long-hairs as well. The head is a little to small and the eyes look weird at that angle, especially on the female. --Darkhallows 05:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

First off, I don't think it's fair that you are doing this because Melonlemon is. About the image, these kind of look like Egyptian cat statues I would find in a museum. ZZ Top <font color="LimeGreen">Get Your Wings  This House Is On Fire  12:14, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry if I crashed Melonlemon's party! Hee hee, I've had these made for about a month, or longer, and my parents had to think about me making an account, so I had them for a long time. But hey, do you need new pixels of the warriors? I can make some. (or attempt to. ;) --MERLOCK 13:32, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You can have more than one up for approval from different users, but these look like egyptians and the canvas needs to be fixed. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y i s W a t c h i n g 13:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Ya, I know, they do look funny. How do become an official member of project character art? Do I just ask and that's that, or does someone have to like approve? Thanks! --<font color="green" style="background:Black">MERLOCK( The Dragon Rider)  70px | <font color="Chocolate" style="background:green">Fantasy is real, who believes me?  19:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Mistyfoot
I know that I'm not technically a member yet, but I made Mistyfoot. (This is my first try. Criticism well appreciated)--<font color="BlueGreen" style="background:Black">Nightgaze <font color="White" style="background:Blue">Iceberry’s Den 03:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Not bad, I like her eyes a lot. But I would suggest using a more grey colour instead. Not to dark a grey though. The shadings good but you'll need it in more areas. And ad a pink for the ear. (they should really draw the outline of the inside of the ear. That would help all of us.-- Thornpath togehodou 05:27, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The lineart seems messed up, it may be from saving it as gif.--Darkhallows 05:40, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

You don't have to be a member to make art, but Mistyfoot is a deputy, and we need more current pixels. Brambleclaw was a warrior when he was made, so he's really a deputy. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y i s W a t c h i n g 00:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I think there needs to be a lot more shading. It seems to be a solid blue/grey colour, with a little bit of shading.

I don't think we need a deputy blank. But we do need medicine cats, leader, queen, and elder ones. Deputies are still warriors, but I guess you could say the same thing for leaders. Dawnfeather 02:24, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I disagree Dawnfeather. If we're going to have seperate blanks for apprentices, kits, leaders, medicine cats, rogues, kittypets, elders (you get the picture...) then why not for deputies? As for this image - I agree that the colour is too blue and needs to be more cat-coloured. The shading also needs to be increased and worked into the pelt to look more natural also. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

You gotta point. I agree with everything written above. Dawnfeather 21:40, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Can I Join?
Can I join as a Warrior or something? I am so devoted to this project, I just thought I should join. -- MU MB LE 785  21:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Mousefur - for approval
I know this is my second one this weekend, but I thought I may as well get in here and do Mousefur while I can. I like her much better than my Hollyleaf. I wasn't sure of the colour of her eyes, so I just did them amber. Constructive critism would be very much appreciated. ( How do I/ can I offically join the project as a warrior?) Dawnfeather 02:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Make her more realistic in her colors. She looks either like she was a technicolor cat once, or a robot colored her. Try more blending where the colors change into shading and highlights. (Mumble785, again. Still lazy...) --68.102.111.72 19:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I wanted to do more, make her a bit darker, blend a bit more, ex., but GIMP is throwing a fit. Opacity is either 100% or 0%. However, I did the best I can for the moment, and I shall try and update her as much as I can until GIMP is a bit more... cooperative. Does anyone know why or how it is doing this? Or how to fix it? Dawnfeather 05:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to fix Gimp, but I like this image. The colour is great - very 'dusky brown' and I can see the shading coming along nicely. When you do eget GIMP working again I would just suggest blending it more to create a smoother transition betweeen the colours. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Um, I know this is a stupid question, but how do you blend on GIMP? Whenever I try it comes up with a little symol for the mouse which instead of just having the blend symbol on it, also has a little circle with a dash through it, telling me I CAN'T blend. Dawnfeather 08:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I wouldn't know because I don't have GIMP but someone recommended www.pixlr.com earlier on this page so you could try that. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Elder Blanks - For Approval
We are in need of elder blanks, so i thought i would make some. What do you think? I'm having some troubles with the size.Dawnfeather 04:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I think you should get rid of the smile, and mabye make it look grumpy... You know elders... -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 13:30, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Grumpy enough? There is something about the back which bothers me. Anyone else feel the same way? Tell me if you can think of what it is. I've only been a user on here for a few weeks, and I noticed that Kitsu hasn't been on since late November last year. Does anyone know where she is? she seem's like the authority on this project from what i've heard. Dawnfeather 23:08, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Kitsu's been very busy lately, so she hasn't been on a lot. I don't see a problem with the back, could you explain it to me? -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 13:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, but the short haired ones' backs seems too flat or something. Dawnfeather 21:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

i see what you mean about the backs. Maybe try making a SMALL dip in the center, to give it the look of a wither/shoulder and a rump/hindquarter. Flam efeat her 18:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Thanks, I think they look better, but is it too extreme now? Dawnfeather 05:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I think they look excellent! But the ear on in front looks round on top... not to be fickle... ::Applestar4904 16:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

These look pretty good. One thing did jump out though: the outline on the bottom edge of all the tails and under their chins is blurry - is this intentional? They definitely look grumpy to me! There is also something about the ears...I can't put my finger on it exactly. I think it maybe that the back of the head seems to stick out quite a lot and it looks a bit un-natural...I dunno. Perhaps that's just me. Good work though! --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I made the neck thinner, changed the ear, and made the outline darker. Is it better? Applestar, I love the name! It's a pity we find nothing more about Applekit in the books after Starlight. (Sorry, a bit off topic! But while im at it, can someone help me make a sig? I don't know how to do all that HTML stuff...) Dawnfeather  08:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

It Looks Great! And thanks, lol ..::Applestar4904 14:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Has anyone got anymore suggestions? Come on, I know it's not perfect yet! Dawnfeather 22:40, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I know I'm not an official member yet, (at least I don't think I am) but the head seems a bit to big to me. (I should talk though, I'm terrible at drawing cats! =p)--<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Merlock the Wizard <font color="Black" style="background:Red">Lets talk  16:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Thanks, I appreciate the consructive critism. I only changed the short hairs co they were ridiculously out of porportion. I'm not sure whether or not to change the long hairs as well. ???? THey look better, but still a bit odd. Dawnfeather 06:31, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I think that the longhair's heads look just fine. In fact, I think they're good enough to use, but I'm not really a member yet, so I can't make that decision. XP I'm sure they'll be used though. --<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Merlock the Wizard <font color="Black" style="background:Red">Lets talk  21:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

The lines from mid-neck to mid-back need evening out. Darkhallows 21:32, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

???? Sorry, Darkhallows, but what? Can you explain in further detail what you mean please? ???? Thanks Merlock! I hope you're right, but if you are, it'll be in a while. I'ld be the first cat to admit that these need a lot of work, especially the short-haired ones. I'm a perfectionist, but they look weird! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 10:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, firstly the heads of the longhaired ones are now way bigger than the shorthaired which looks strange. Secondly, they look like they ahve really fat forelegs (closest one) especially the shorthaired... Also, is there any way to further distinguish between male and female other than the eyes? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

How to tell them apart; On the long hairs, the female's fur is a little bit neater, and on the short hairs the female has a smaller line defining the shape of the chest. On both of them the front paws are slightly slimmer and there is that thing with the eyes. I don't have enough time right now to work on these, I'm going away over easter, and then im going away with my family, but I think we'll still stay at a place with internet, 'cos my brother is in his final year of school and he has a few essays to write over the holidays! I'll try and do that stuff before then tho. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. Now you've pointed it out I can see there are a lot of differences! Sorry I was being unobservant! --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 11:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

That's okay! I didn't really want to make them too obvious, but do you think they should be? <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 12:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I re-adjusted the head and body porportions, and I think they look better, but they are still a bit weird. Any thoughts? I'll get around to the paws a little bit later, I haven't got time right now. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 02:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

May I join?
Hey, I'm kinda new to Warriors Wikia, but I love to do character art, and would love to help with Project Character art! ::Applestar4904 16:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Me too! Mistylava

Yeah, I'd love to offically join, but I doubt anything will be done about it until Kitsu has enough time on her hands to spend more time on here. For the moment, I'm just gonna work on my pictures really hard, like an apprentice training to be a warrior, until I (hopefully) become a warrior on this project. Dawnfeather 10:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Sedgekit- For Approval
Had some free time, drew Sedgekit, feel free to judge it's bad T.T ..::Applestar4904 17:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Can it be zoomed in more? I can't tell anything about it (Other than the colour, sort of) when it's so small! Looks good though, i think Dawnfeather  05:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather, what do you mean "Zoom it in"? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Make it bigger? Dawnfeather 11:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

This is te size of the lineart though... Applestar4904 12:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Really? That's strange. Maybe make it larger using GIMP. Dawnfeather 22:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, no. Don't worry about it. They just come out this small. Try putting more shading into the gray areas. Also put a little tiny bit of shading in the white areas. So cute! Dawnfeather  22:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I would also suggest stronger shading. Darkhallows 21:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Limit Yourselves...
Okay, I recall Kitsu saying that we need to limit ourselves to, like, one cat. Please listen to her; this page is getting way to crowded. Withdraw the cats you aren't working on, and limit yourselves. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:28, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok! We also need to approve some and that should clear some room --Applestar4904 15:33, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

We can't approve them, though. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:22, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, well who can? I want to put up my Ashfur, but I want to wait until my Sedgekit gets approved --Applestar4904 16:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Only Kitsu can until she decides on who can be the next leader. And I agree even I said this a while back try limiting yourselves, but it seems no one shall listen and this place is getting way too crowded. Can we just stick to one picture now? I remember Kitsu taking down ones that no one worked on after weeks or even months. If we could do it, I think we should atleast start there cause there are tons that are still that way.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree. There area large number of images that people haven't worked on even after comments have been made. If these were removed from the page along with those that have already been withdrawn then this would help a little. Is there any way that someone other than Kitsu can remove the withdrawn images or those that have not been worked on (and are unlikely to be even close to approval in their current state) from the page to allow those that are either waiting for Kitsu or are close to approval or are being worked on regularly to be commented on and improved? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 09:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I think you just go to the 'Edit' page of an article, and then erase the entire contents or the article. That's what I did for my atrocious Hollyleaf. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll have to talk to Eu, but you aren't supposed to remove stuff; you're supposed to archive stuff. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I've got no idea then. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray" style="border2px solid; moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:"Orange"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray" style="border1px solid; moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:"Orange"> I am of the Dawn's Radience  03:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I feel bad about having two now! I'm sorry... I think... maybe we should ask Eu to move some of the haven't-been-worked-on-in-months images. Or at least ask if we can. --Darkhallows 04:44, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I withdrew my two to start on blanks! -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 14:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

To-Be Cave Guard Blanks-For Approval



 * I'll get the longs up later. Please comment onthese "poorly drawn" blanks. -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 14:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Longs are up. -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 14:47, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * First off, the snout is much too long, making them look mouse like. The head is also too big in proportion to body size, though that could be neck length. I would also make the paws a lot more realistic. Also, the tail should stick straight out, not curve around. --Darkhallows 07:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Hold On!
Okay, Mallinois, why did you upload more blanks? Grr... I would like to ask that we stop putting up stuff for awhile until a lot of these images are withdrawn, approved, or declined. So please, please don't put anything under this section. If you have any comments regarding this, post them in "Limit Yourselves...". Thanks. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)