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Polly (Ki) ~ Withdrawn
Okay so I didn't know I even had Photoshop, and then Snowed gave me the file, and I have zero idea how to get the colors so oopsies. wow that's a looooot of layers snowed how do you even keep track

idk man I just do. it must be magic. also, define the texture.

re-up changes if needed.

Stripes look thicker/more dense on kittypet, and thin out the M on the forehead a little

So, what do you want me to do about the stripe issue? keep in mind that this is a kit image, so stripes are obviously going to be thinner and smaller. Also, seeing as these blanks are in different positions. . . you get the point. Not asking for a second opinion. . . just asking Snowfall to clarify.

Know you're not asking for another opinion, but I know these blanks are a pain in the ass to match designs with, and sometimes you gotta cram tons of stripes into one place. I think it's fine.

The only reason I even mentioned the stripes was because on the kittypet there's more dark brown than light brown showing but I get that it's a small blank and a different angle. Though I still think the M should be more thin if you can make it that, and smooth out the top -> side of the M as well. Lastly, define shading depth a tad?

re-up I'm hesitant to do this, because I don't want it to be too red.

The "M" stripe on the kittypet image has a much more defined shape and is less curved, if that makes sense? Nice image. 18:42, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

The stripes should be smudged a bit.

re-up thanks

maybe smudge out the stripes a lil' more, just to give that rougher effect that the KP has

re-up

Define the shading some more. 20:02, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

re-up

The light brown spot on the haunch (I think?) near the back paw looks a little out of place, for a lack of a better word. Try smudging the shading towards that area, or just fill it with shading, since there are plenty of blanks that have shading in that specific spot. 00:24, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

re-up I hope this is what you mean?

There's waste in the area between the main body and tail. 22:23, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

re-up O.o don't know how that didn't save in gimp

could u like desaturate the shading a lil? i like tints and all but it kinda makes the right side look really, really red :) like maybe just play with the hues or smth 16:38, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

o and it should also fix the problem with shading depth which could stand to be defined a lil as well 16:38, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

re-up

Still feel like the shading needs a lot of depth. Remember, depth isn't the same as defining the shading. It's adding a thinner, darker layer of shading to made it more 3 dimensional

re-up

Try and add a little more depth to the shading; I can't see terribly much of a difference between the last upload imo

Define the earpink? C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 #cat lady 21:58, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

re-up

Define the light on the tail

can you define the shading depth a bit? 22:43, July 27, 2017 (UTC)

re-up

Can you define the stripes on the back a little? They blend into the shading a bit, even though I can mostly still see them

re-up I am 110% done with this shading.

Withdrawing

Storm (Ro) (Ki) - For Approval
This probably doesn't match well. 19:47, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading, shading depth, and smooth the shading a bit.

Reuploaded 20:09, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading everywhere. It might just be me but she looks tinted yellow compared to the other images. 20:17, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

^^I see the yellow tint too.

Reuploaded I put a shading tint on the image. (if that's what you're talking about) Sorry, I should have said something about that. 21:14, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

The stripes on her other images seem more... Clustered, for the lack of a better word. If you'd like, I can try and dig up the file for the ES. (Though my attempt at matching her pattern is pretty bad hh)

In between the thick tail stripes should be very thin, hardly noticeable stripes, i think.

Reuploaded Hopefully this is better. :) And Fox, you don't have to dig the file out, you probably have so many other files and my computer doesn't load email anyway. 01:51, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

Can you smooth the shading a little more on the face and chest? Also, do you think you could curve the neck shading rather than having it be sort of a straight line, if that makes sense? 01:15, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

awww she's so cute (he?) ((: a suggestion is maybe u could extend the stripes to the empty area on the right hand side? cuz there should be stripes on her haunch area. 04:23, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Gah this is so hard to explain *.* but I feel like the stripes on her other images aren't as... Messy? Like they seem to form a more orderly pattern, if you get me. There also appears to be texture on her other images, so that also needs to be added.

Reuploaded Thanks Burnt. :) Hopefully this is close to what you meant, Fox. :D 00:35, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading some more. 23:36, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded  23:45, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading and smooth the bit of shading on the flank thing next to the -> arm

Reuploaded 21:55, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading between the front legs. C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 #cat lady 21:59, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:27, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading to the <- arm and smooth it out a little?

Reuploaded  17:10, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a bit more on the neck and face. 23:50, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded  01:35, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Define the tail stripes there 08:52, 7/30/2017

Reuploaded :) 20:16, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

The stripes appear to be a bit softer on the other images, also perhaps define the stripes under the shading? + smooth the shading on the ear

Reuploaded 18:17, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

Turtle Tail (Ki) - CBA
Demonic small blanks. And yes, before you ask, the entire side of the image is supposed to be white. This pattern isn't meant to be very visible from the front.

There's white waste above the right ear. :) 05:15, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Also blurred a couple things.

Could you swap either the flank shading or the facial shading so that the light source is consistent?

I knew I messed something up with this. I'll fix the head shading in the morning... this is the one source that still confuses me, even after almost six years of being a lead. =/

If you plan to swap the head shading then the shading on that -> leg also needs to be swapped (dw I get confused too xd)

could you maybe define/darken the shading depth :] love her new pattern hh (her old one is still the best) 20:27, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Her original pattern was the best, hands down. But noooo, that stupid tortie vote happened. =/ I will forever be bitter about it, and there ain't anything anyone can say that will make me believe otherwise.

I might be wrong -- light sources really aren't my thing -- but I still think that the head shading should swapped to be consistent with the source shown on the rest of the image. 13:07, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

I get that you're upset about the tortie vote, but with this new citation this pattern would've happened anyway :/ 13:31, 7/24/2017

The tortie vote happened ... you are allowed to be bitter, but I do not believe protesting like that gets us anywhere. Can you smooth out the shading? 23:35, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

Icy, that was unnecessary. You already told me about it on Skype, and bringing it here was uncalled for. We already discussed this and it feels like you're trying to start an argument with me. I'll fix the shading in the morning.

I think your head shading contradicts the light source.

Ivy already said that; I haven't reuploaded yet with the fixed source.

Oh, sorry :P Should we even be able to see the tail? Her tail is stumpy, and with the position the blank is in, the kit's tail wouldn't be able to reach that far around. Stumpytail's kit image doesn't show the tail.

It actually was not unnecessary, I have the right to respond to a comment on the talk page. It is not an argument with you, and therefore I will not be continuing it. Responding to Danny's comment, I actually think you would be able to see the tail on this image. Stumpytail's tail seems a tad shorter compared to Turtle Tail, but I actually will double check with the file. 01:18, July 27, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, actually, their tail length is indeed the same, Turtle Tail's actually is a bit longer. So yes, the tail would need to be removed / not seen. 01:19, July 27, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm sorry, but I really don't agree with removing the entire tail. Stumpytail is a different cat, and just because one has the entire tail removed, doesn't quite mean that I have to remove mine as well. We can't see the backside of the cat, and this pose is confusing enough. I also asked Winter, and she agrees with keeping the tail, so that makes two and two. I'm going to keep it how it is for now, until I get a few other comments. I'd rather not remove it and then get told to readd it because someone wanted to nominate it later on down the road.

The shading on the front legs looks,, idk how to describe it. Blotchy/leaking, I guess?

Re-uploaded. Weird. Doesn't look like that on the laptop.

CBA?

Speckletail (Alt Q) - CBA
All colors except the stripes obviously are from her regular queen. 15:57 Tue Jul 25

well i mean technically if you do it like this, she should have black stripes on her normal image and she shouldn't get an alt then 16:00, 7/25/2017

Reuploaded I just didn't know if I would have been required to keep the same base. This looks better anyways and not as...pastel vomit-y (for lack of a better way to descibe it) with a duller toned base. 16:05 Tue Jul 25

Can you add some shading to the -> ear? It looks flat rn

Winter, this would be an alt regardless. It was outright said that Speckletail being said to have black stripes was a mistake, so I think Sunjaw can use whatever color base she sees fit for this, even if it's the colors from the regular queen.

base colour shoukd probably be a bit paler or more golden but idk might renominate the other images 05:56, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I really want to make this pale silver but that might be too far /: 15:51 Wed Jul 26

Honestly i wouldnt be against it, since mostly all cats with black stripes are either gray or silver 19:43, 7/26/2017

there's nothing that says she isn't golden, this is only about the markings. realism has nothing to do with it, regardless if thats how it works irl. 19:46, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe add some shading to the muzzle a bit and define the shading on the tail? C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 #cat lady 22:01, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I swear this is the last color change I'm doing, I'm finally happy with it being pale silver lol 01:58 Thu Jul 27

again I'm going to ask, why is she silver? nothing says she was called that. 09:15, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Because black markings usually mean silver, sun can pick any base color really. Rainbowmistake (talk) 17:21, July 28, 2017 (UTC)chat

Reuploaded Platinum blonde = perfect middle ground. Still technically silverish, still technically golden. Also redid the shading cause it was bothering me. 17:35 Fri Jul 28

warriors isnt real life, like i said realism has nothing to do with these. she has a cited base colour. the only difference is she has black markings, otherwise we might as well just make unspecified tabbies any colour we want then. :/

(this colour is fine btw sun that above isnt aimed at u) 17:48, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the closest front leg??

Reuploaded That's as much as I'm doing it. <span style="">19:18 Mon Jul 31

CBA?

Deerdapple (Star) ~ For Approval
Sorry for the late upload, got punished. Also, one sec for me to upload mine. 03:15, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:16, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

The colors don't match, would you like the elder file? Other than that, define the shading.

Smudge the ear pink a bit and I think the stripes are thicker on the other images. <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 03:26, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm fine, thanks anyways Danny, :) 03:37, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

There shouldn't be any texture on the pale areas, define the eye depth, smudge the stripes, theres waste by the <-- elbow, define the shading depth, smooth the shading and highlights.

There is also waste above the back. Good luck with this image.

Reuploaded I'll need it. RIP 03:51, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

The stripes on his other images seem to have more of a jagged look, if you get what I mean. The stripes here also kind of fade off a the they look blue at at least one of the ends. The eyes are very pretty on this, Pepper. :) 03:55, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thank you Shypaw. :) 04:04, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes.

Smooth the shading on chest and -> paw

Reuploaded 21:52, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Is that shading or texture on the muzzle? Because the muzzle and around the eyes include the pale non-textures parts (If it's shading, ignore this lol)

It's shading. lmao 22:14, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

The stripes on the other images appear to be more messily smudged.

Reuploaded I tried. 23:27, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Can you smooth the shading on the > ear just a little? This looks really pretty.

Reuploaded Thank you Spooky! ^^ 23:50, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

I think the stripes could still be sharpened to match the other images. On the elder, from what I can see the stripes were made with a solid pixel brush and then smudged with a 1px or 2px brush.

Reuploaded I redid the stripes, is it better? 01:07, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

I think the stripes are much thicker also. Maybe smooth out some shading on the forehead. Good job so far! <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 01:18, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 01:43, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste on the back and --> shoulder. <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 03:34, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

There appears to be a random dark spots on the <- paw, I can redline if you need it

Reuploaded I spent 10 mins seeing what layer that dark spot was on. xD 15:10, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

Wow, pepper this is amazing! Can you add some depth on the base of the chest by the elbows? <span style="">19:46, 8/02/2017

Reuploaded Thank you!! ^^ 19:59, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

The farthest forehead stripe needs to go down further

Reuploaded 23:06, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

Snake (DotC) (Alt. ES) - For Approval
He was cited as gray in the alleg. of Blazing Star when he was in Clear Sky's group, so I'm like 90% sure that means he gets an alt. es. Also, there's very faint texture because after zooming in on the alt. rogue, you can just barely see texture.

I think there's some shading leaking on the booty from the tail shading. Pretty image! 00:10, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

reups Thank you :^>

Im so jealous x.x These blanks are the best. Think you could define the eye depth just a smidge? <span style="">18:29, 8/01/2017

reups Too bad the only other ES chararts we'll likely get are more alts. They're in Clans now, so warrior blanks it is. (also fixed some leaky shading)

Define the shading on all legs? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 01:18, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

reups I tried to define the shading on just the legs but it was already solid black with a low layer opacity so I just made it even darker black and darkened the entire layer :^)))))

Shattered Ice (Alt. ES) - For Approval
This is an alt for being called silver. It was originally done on a rogue blank, and I suppose we forgot to switch it when we gave the early settlers their own blank. 21:48, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Where do you find these alts. ;0; Define the shading depth, especially on the nearest back leg and tail. 21:50, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

There's some waste around the ears

Re-uploaded. Is this any better on the shading? Also, I don't actually find a lot of alts at all (this only like the third one I've ever done), I just noticed this while I was writing part of his article. 22:13, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

can you define the shading that isn't the darkest part of the shading if that makes any sense? 19:21, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

^^^I believe another way to put it would be define the shading, but the shading depth is fine, so just the shading???

Re-uploaded. Nah, I think I know what Skt meant, but I'm not sure if I fixed it well enough, though. 20:17, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

Nightheart (Ro) ~ For Approval
<span style="">03:49, 8/03/2017

Where in the cite does that confirm that it's Nightheart?

In the bonus scene with Petal and Fox she said that she had to help nightheart and leaf take a squirrel from a black tom (moon shadow), which we see in the sun trail, which is the exact scene playing out. <span style="">04:31, 8/03/2017

The scenes in the Bonus Section of The Sun Trail match up with the events from the book. I double-checked myself, and there's too many things that match up, including Petal outright saying that Nightheart and Leaf were the ones who jumped on Moon Shadow (the black tom hunting the squirrel) and it was already confirmed that the cat that Gray Wing and Clear Sky met (the black she-cat) is Nightheart. Connecting the separate stories shows one giant event, basically. You need to actually read the books and put two and two together. The events are described by Petal exactly as they happened in both The Sun Trail and the Bonus Scene.

Spider Paw (Alt W) ~ For Approval
i didnt even know i could charart with ibis paint, but um...here? if it screwed up the page somehow, just decline it. this is honestly just a test. <span style="">23:18, 8/03/2017