Talk:Fresh Kill/Archive 1

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Birds
Challenge for everyone: List every species (or species type) of bird you remember seeing in the series. There are, frankly a huge number of bird types, so I'm going to have to merge them down a bit and do some lumping to make the types manageable (there are some things, like Waxwings, that I'm guessing the cats probably lump with sparrows, and things like that). It'll also help me get a handle on what really is found in the cats' area. Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 14:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)Sparrow, thrush, dove (or pigeon, found during training between Firestar & Cloudpaw), owl (not sure if they would eat it), eagle (the tribe cats eat them). Eulalia459678 ( Salamandastron ) 15:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Addressing Eagles will be... A challenge. They're hunted exclusively as a part of a culture, and are not on the "normal" list of items cats eat. We shall figure something out, though. Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 15:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Prior to the move from Rabbit to Prey
Do we need this article at all? I don't really see a point in it. Why not just make one Prey article to cover everything? Because individual pages couldn't possibly be more than stubs... -- ~ | ET | ~ ( Talk/Contribs ) 01:26, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I honestly didn't even realize this page existed *snicker* Sometimes they sneak in under my radar no matter how hard I'm trying. Definitely needs action of some sort. It acctually wouldn't be that hard to expand the article into a proper one, particularly when you get into things like 'sparrows' for prey, which would be able to include lists of links to species and the like. There are options for making proper articles for prey. I'm honestly wondering if we even need articles for prey at all. Perhaps a relevancy vote would be pertinent here. Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 01:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Format Inconsistencies & Concerns
I'd just like to point out that, while "Mouse" is really a type of creature, "Water Vole" is a very specific species of vole. We should either go all generalities, or all vague.

I'm also concerned about the copyright on the images in question. They're not sourced on their pages, and really need to be. They're not clipart, that's all I know for sure.

Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 02:11, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I got them from Wikipedia, and I'll source them later today. Eu 13:18, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * They are also sorta big, given the actual usage size you've gone with. Would you like me to scale them? I'd be willing to do it once they're sourced. Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 13:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind, will you? I will not be able to source them until late tonight, but I will do it.  Eu 13:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem
I don't feel that hedgehogs and moles should be listed. I am currently re-reading the series, and am currently on chapter seven in Firestar's Quest. So far, there has been no mention of moles at all, and the only mention of hedgehos is in the phrase, "When hedgehogs fly". This site is about the book series cats, not real life cats. Just because real cats eat ti, doesn't mean the book ones do. Well, it might, but, so far, the authors have made absolutly no mention of either of these species ever being in/on the fresh-kill pile. Eulalia459678 ( Salamandastron ) 02:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So, you're going to make assumptions that these species are never hunted, would never be hunted, and will never be hunted based on the few dozen times we've acctually seen the fresh-kill pile in the books? Simply becuase the authors don't anal-retentively describe every piece of prey in excruciating detail? Considering they know headgehogs, if a cat managed to get through the spins, why wouldn't they eat it? I might consider notes as to books prey items have appeared in, but I don't think it's appropriate to leave things that real cats eat off the list simply becuase there's been no direct mention of them in the few dozen hunting scenes and scenes that we've gotten descriptions of the fresh-kill pile. Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 02:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)