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Deputy Blanks - For Approval
having trouble with the tails :// 22:18 Sun Jan 24

I can give you a redline if youd like splook? Also the back legs feet are bothering me. Perhaps i can show you what would look best in the redline as well? 22:54, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Tip for the tails, most of the time a cats tail will curl away from their body or lie flat on the ground 23:09, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

I suck at explaining things, so here. I can't quite figure out how to explain how to fix the legs though, and I can't figure out a redline for it. idk 23:34, 01/24/2016

Make the hind paws thicker and the knees should be more well-rounded.

A few suggestions, feel free to ignore them.  17:51 Wed Jan 27 

the blanks are a little too small --Belllastar (talk) 00:21, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

No, they're not. o.o They're about the same size as many of the other blanks we have on here.

The necks look thin to me. However, only tweak it if you feel that you need to. — ☆ ﻿paper  ·  finches  ★  17:54, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded. I did a whole new tail placement that was suggested. I think it's working for the shorthaired, but does the longhair look alright? 02:13 Sun Jan 31

It looks fine to me^^ but I think you can add some more tufts on the back of the tail?

The way the fur swoops up on the chest of the long-haired looks a little too cartoonish compared to the other blanks, at least in my opinion. Consider smoothing that out/making it more realistically fluffy, if that makes sense? It looks cool, don't get me wrong, I just don't think it fits the style of the other blanks. Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:08, February 2, 2016 (UTC)

Could you add more "fur lines" on the long hair's tail?

Define the shoulder more and add some more to the lower jaw? 07:05, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

This isn't meant to rush you, but here's a reminder to upload the blanks! I know you're busy, but giving the section a nudge wouldn't hurt... I think. =P Given that you are not bound by the one-week upload limit, this is nothing other than a courtesy or something. I'd say "friendly reminder", but that's usually used in a mocking tone, and you know that's not what I mean.

reuploaded. my apologies with the delay. my new classes for the semester keep me busy on weeknights. 01:06 Sat Feb 6

Comments before approval? 08:40, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

The gap between the hind leg and the hind foot reminds me too much of a rabbit... 09:10, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

The curved line at the shoulder looks akward can I ask why it is there? 14:56, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

The hindlegs of both the short-haired and long-haired have different lengths to them. I suggest fixing them so they match?

I'm sorry for the massive nitpicky comment, but could you make the shoulder a bit wider, thin out the lines on the front toes some (and maybe shorten them),move the toe on the back foot backwards a tiny bit, move the far back leg forward a bit, make the close haunch attach to the leg a bit lower down, add a tiny bit more fluff to the bottom of the longhair's chest and haunch, make the far front foot a little wider, shorten the shorthair tail a tad, make the gap between the upper and lower whisker a bit wider and make the back of the heads attach to the neck a bit higher up (or the jaw a bit lower)? If you don't get what I mean, I'll gladly give a redline to show you. Most of this is optional.  16:01 Sat Feb 6 

It doesn't look like a rabbit, Sagestream, and if it does, can you please tell her what to do, instead of just telling her what you think it looks like? 19:32, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

A redline would be really helpful, Shinx :) Sometimes I get lost on what to do from just reading the text 19:34 Sat Feb 6

Alright, then i think maybe you should shorten the gap between the leg and the foot. it just looks a bit awkward. 02:58, February 7, 2016 (UTC)

I already said that Sage :P Anyway, hope this helps.  10:53 Sun Feb 7 

I think the tail could be raised a few pixels up on the back of the cat, and the neck needs to be thickened a bit ( http://prntscr.com/a1872f ), and the raised paw should be backed up a few pixels and made smaller. The tum could be dropped a pixel or two, and the ears made a bit neater. The longhair should probably have long fur all the way up to the chin too, as well as the shoulder being fuzzy. 23:45, 02/9/2016

reuploaded. thanks so much, i think they look a lot better now. 02:41 Tue Feb 16

Comments before approval? 03:59, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Add white to the chararts so they look like the other blanks. Great job! ^_^

Sorry for bothering you again but could you add a little bit more fluff to the bottom of the longhair's chest while you're at it? Just one or two lines will do.  16:58 Tue Feb 16 

Can I ask why the blanks have to be white? 17:29 16/2/16

It's just below the lineart, Velvet. All of the other blanks have that, so I don't see why these shouldn't. That can be added afterwards, though. And I said the same thing on Skype that I'm gonna say now, the feet are a bit too... flat, for lack of a better word. Using what Berry also said to me, a cat usually walks on their toes, so the only way they'd be completely flat is if they're sitting.

As I said on Skype, the picture Splook based this off has the cat in the exact same pose with her legs on the ground. In fact, my cats' legs are on the ground when she's asking for food in the same position. :/ 04:29, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

The back legs would be up in the air a little bit, as per Skye. Cats do in fact walk on their toesies. 12:47, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Also sorry foe edit spam but the whiskers that are going <== this way off the blank sre bothering me, since the other whiskers are flat against the side of the face. Basically get rid of those whiskers 12:49, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

I think the back legs are fine. I have seen my cat and if you google images of a cat you will find some in this position or with their feet in that position. Just because it's not common doesn't make it inaccurate. 21:03, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Exactly, Velvet. You bring up an amazing point. Anyways, here's a picture of the legs Splook used: They're not on their toes. Splook's legs are fine. 01:37, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

If someone would like to argue the opposite, may you please draw a redline and show me what it would look like if the legs were altered? 02:05 Thu Feb 18

No, you don't need to change it becuase it's fine. I provided proof that cats legs cna look like it and in general, they can. 02:06, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Hey now, chill. She asked for a redline to see what they'd look like, and there's nothing wrong with that. If she chooses to not do so after the redline is given, then that's fine. But since she did ask for one to support the argument against her, then I think she should be given one. (I can't redline, sorry)

I'm not particularly bothered what happens with the back legs, but is this what you guys had in mind?  15:18 Thu Feb 18 

I can do a redline later, but for now, I'd agree with what others are saying and say that something with the back legs needs to be changed. Yes, cats can lower themselves entirely on the "heel" of their leg (for lack of a better term). But the upper part of the leg would be more stretched out if that were the case, because if the rear is that high in the air, the leg needs to stretch out to compensate for the lower part of the leg being on the ground. You can see it in the picture Icy provided; yes, the lower leg is all on the ground, and you can see how the rear end doesn't appear to be low to the ground, but closer to even with the shoulders. But you can see how the "thigh" (I really don't know the proper words for cat anatomy) is stretch out, not rounded and curled up like drawn here, because it has to stretch out to account for the height lost from the lower leg being on the ground. I probably rambled too much and didn't explain myself very clearly, but I'll do a redline later that will hopefully make what I'm trying to say here clearer. ^^ That, or you could go the direction that Shinx is suggesting and take the lower leg off the ground entirely, so you can keep the bend to the upper leg. Jayie Unwritten words~ 21:51, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Almost a week later. XD http://www.ezimba.com/work/160224C/ezimba11244534222500.png Here's a redline for the legs/back. But I'm not sure I did it totally right. Splook, could you post a link to the full picture you used for a reference, by chance? It might help me figure out how to redline it better, if I can see how low down the back was and such. Anyway, if not, hope this helps. ^^ Jayie  Unwritten words~ 17:11, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

If I'm allowed to ask what's wrong with the old deputy blanks?— Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 17:12, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Anatomy issues, mostly. There was a vote on whether or not to redo them and it passed.  <span style="">17:44 Tue Feb 23 

Violet (KP) (Q) - For Approval
I will be working on the stripes. Even though it's a different view, I am not sure what I think of it. And it doesn't really match the original style well...so please do not comment on that; I already know. <span style="">01:11 Thu Feb 18

Which image did you get the base color from? It seems a tiny bit darker on this than it does her kittypet. Might be my eyes, though.

Can you fix the collar so it looks like its facing down? It looks a tad awkward when it's facing straight up.

I color picked from the rogue in the lightest spot I could find. I will compare and/or it if needed when I am done with the work for my classes. <span style="">20:55 Thu Feb 18

You actually should have colorpicked from the kittypet; that image is the first in the set, and all images are required to match that one.

Reuploaded Colorpicked from kittypet and it was the same. Also fixed the style of the stripes. <span style="">00:25 Sat Feb 20

The kittypet still looks a lot lighter than this? I'm not sure how to suggest to fix that though... Try colorpicking from a few different areas? <span style="">01:59, 02/20/2016

Reuploaded I added a light highlight layer to attempt fixing it. I'm honestly not sure why it looks so different. I colorpicked from the absolute lightest spot I could find on two of the images. The base I used was the color I got each time. <span style="">02:41 Sat Feb 20

For reference about the base and also to ask for advice on what to do about it looking too dark even though the base on the this is now lighter than the KP >.<' <span style="">16:26 Sat Feb 20

I think the stripes might be a little less sharp on the other images. This is very pretty! 21:47, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Can you move her collar a few inches up so it looks like it's fitting around her neck?

I think the collar is fine but it is a bit square edged or the side farthest from us. 22:45, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Duplicated the stripes and blurred them a bit (just so I don't lose the original in case I get told to sharpen them) and messed with the highlights a bit, so let me know if that helps with that darkness problem at all. I will fix the collar on next upload. <span style="">20:08 Mon Feb 22

Comments before approval? 23:13, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry I hate doing this, but that collar is still too square at the edge furthest from us. 23:55, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

I've messed with it a couple times and there's really nothing I can do to round it out without completely redoing the collar (again), which I would rather not do as that will mess with a good part of that area on the image. It's kind of difficult to get a perfectly realistic collar with the angle that it would sit on this blank and having it only be 3 pixels in height does not help. I will try again with it but no guarantees. Sorry if that came off as rude or something, not intended to be. <span style="">15:35 Wed Feb 24

Sloefur (MC) ~ CBA
the shading makes me want to cry 01:33, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

smooth out the shading? why is shading black cats another hell? 12:37, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I tried 22:45, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

There's leaking above the head.

Smooth the shading out some more and expand it on the tum a little, near the shoulder <span style="">00:38, 02/21/2016

Re-uploaded My monitor doesn't show blacks that well, so I don't know how much better it is, but I tried. 23:50, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 23:14, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (Alt MC 3) ~ For Approval
21:52, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

This should be lighter I think? The description for this alt is pale grey, and this looks just grey. Think something like Featherwhisker. Also, define earpink and smooth the shading on the chest. <span style="">21:55, 02/19/2016

Reups my bad 14:39, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading? 22:12, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Even it out too; it looks a lot darker on her face then the rest of her 22:14, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Define the light source as well. please 22:43, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

the source is fine; it's coming from the left. 15:33, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Then why is there light on the right side of the cheek. 17:32, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

because cheeks stick out? it's been done before on other images and its perfectly acceptable. 18:13, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading on the lifted foot a little bit?  <span style="">18:28 Mon Feb 22 

lighten shading some its looks really really dark?— <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 17:13, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Ravenpaw (W) - CBA
My sweet little Raven. 23:13, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Shrink the white on his chest to better match the other images. 23:39, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the haunch and shoulder and face. Also, you can make the eyes have more colour in it (http://prntscr.com/a5ip7u just add color where the red is in this image on your image) so they eyes aren't quite as small and hard to see the colour of. Brighten the white as well, and make sure it covers the whole tail tip; it looks like it's peeling away from the edges. <span style="">23:50, 02/19/2016

Reupload fixed the eye problem and fixed shading also fixed white patches. 00:07, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

The white on the chest still needs to be a lot smaller like the red spot, and don't forget to smooth/blur the shading in the places I said. he is tiny and i love him <span style="">00:11, 02/20/2016

Reupload I made it smaller but I'm still not happy with the neck shading. 16:00, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the haunch and shoulder a little more, and define it on the two legs farthest from us. 21:45, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload Did what you said. 00:18, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 23:14, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, but the tail tip and the chest look very gray. please whiten them.

Reupload 23:52, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Kestrelwing (MC) - CBA
I was gonna match the other one but it wasn't even dark brown so I just changed it completely, since it was the only one in the set (minus the alt). <span style="">00:59, 02/20/2016

The only thing that would have needed to be changed is the color, so what's wrong with matching the old one?

Do I have to? <span style="">21:33, 02/20/2016

Only if you want to; I was just asking what was wrong with it (besides the color), since you did say you were gonna match it at first. =P

The stripes were unrealisitic imo, so I decided I'd change it <span style="">21:42, 02/20/2016

Could I get comments or something please? <span style="">18:55, 02/23/2016

Comments before approval? 23:15, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Tom (ES) (Alt Ro) -CBA
Copper is reddish-brown, and ginger is ginger. Copper doesn't have stripes unless specified, whereas ginger does. Lineart is David's, with a few minor tweaks so I could use it in PS.

Define the shading a tiny bit, maybe?  <span style="">12:39 Mon Feb 22 

Re-uploaded. I tried.

Define the facial shading. 23:29, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

I honestly can't. This isn't me being stubborn, either, before I get accused of that. The pattern I made, in addition to the ragged fur, makes this quite a difficult pattern to shade. And tbh, I did try when Shinx asked me to define the shading, and that's about as best as I could get.

Comments before approval? 23:25, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Frecklewish (SC) (MC) ~ CBA
its 4am and i dont know what im doing anymore 14:59, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Make the shading more visible. 02:58, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded any darker and the stripes will be impossible to see not that I can really see them now 13:36, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 23:16, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Mudfur (MC) ~ For Approval
Prolly gonna redo that shading later :/  <span style="">15:17 Sun Feb 21 

Probably just me, but the mottles seem to be a tad lighter on his other images. Also, maybe add some more shading to the tip of the tail? It looks slightly flat.  ❄ Blossomstream White Christmas  13:08, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

reups The light is coming from above, so I don't think it makes sense for there to be shadows on the tip of the tail. Sorry :/  <span style="">23:33 Tue Feb 23 

Micah (MC) ~ For Approval
15:15, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

smooth the shading out a little but on the stomach 21:24, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe darken the stripes on the tail and define the shading in general? You don't have ot define the shading, I just think the stripes look a tad lighter than they do on the other images. 23:30, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded 23:52, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Echosong (MC) - For Evaluation
I noticed with the new medicine cat blanks, no one had done Echosong's, so I gave it a shot. What do you think? (keep in mind I'm still a kit, so don't expect it to look super duper good, but personally I think it came out well) Warriorcat1195 (talk) 00:18, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Hmm.... do I need more shading somewhere? Warriorcat1195 (talk) 00:20, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

I fixed the heading for you. :) Also, remember to upload the image under this file: File:Echosong.mc.png. As for the image, add shading to the tail. Lighten and smudge the stripes a bit, and smudge the white on the chest. This is pretty good, though! 00:52, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Also, make the earpink less neon. Try picking from the earpink on one of her other images. 01:05, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Add more depth in the eyes 02:56, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Try to make the stripes more... squiggly (?) on the body to match her other images better. Also, the white could be expanded slightly on the chest, although that might just be me. nice! 09:43, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

darken tail, legs, and chest shading also add depth to them as well. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 17:15, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Uhhh I only understood half of that. Also, I don't have the smudge tool. And before you ask, yes I have the newest update for paint.net--I updated it yesterday.

Also, thakns for fixing the heading. After I hit publish I stared at the others and I was like "uhh, was I supposed to make my heading like that?"

Just saying... does doing this make me an apprentice...? Warriorcat1195 (talk) 22:56, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Here, how about this? Does this look any better? Warriorcat1195 (talk) 23:19, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

You don't have to repost the image on the page every single time you change it. You just have to reupload it with the Upload page and then post the comment on here. You don't have to add it, the picture will be changed automatically after you upload. 23:31, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Could you blur the White a bit more and next time you reupload put it in bold like I did there using around three apostrophes (') around ether side of the word. Hopefully this helped! 00:03, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit duller? It looks neon. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 00:19, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Weird, I didn't get any emails that you guys commented. Also, sorry, didn't know. And the old one is still there. Let me swap them out... Also there's something weird my computer, if I simply save it as a .png, the file isn't openable. I have to merge the layers, and I keep forgetting to save one as a .pdn and one as a .png. So, I don't have multiple layers at this point, so blurring will be crazy difficult. If anyone has any suggestions--or know any way I can get the smudge tool--it'd be greatly appreciated. Next time I'll have to remember to save it twice so I have a copy that's actually editable (is that a word?).Warriorcat1195 (talk) 00:29, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

I know this has nothing to do with Echosong, but on my own wiki I'm making a dark brown tabby... do I use black for the stripes or a really really dark brown?Warriorcat1195 (talk) 00:38, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

It's optional, you can do both.

PAINT.net doesn't really just give a smudge tool, it's a separate thing to get. I'll message you a link on getting the PAINT.net smudge tool when I track it down. Don't panic you are doing a lot better than before! :) 05:23, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Fox (DTC) (ES) ~ For Approval
10:18, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Molepelt (MC) - For Approval
<span style="">15:53, 02/24/2016