Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Canon
Hey so I found this page floating around with no project on it, and it seemed more PB oriented than anything so I thought to pop it in here. Ik it's with the category of Role Play Phenomenon, and everything else from there has been deleted, but... couldn't it be revamped? I wanted to pose the question here of whether it should be deleted like the rest of the category, or made a part of PB and revamped/ add new stuff and such. Thoughts?

Yea, I agree with that. It is information for the reader and it should be in PB. 14:55, 4/22/2017 14:55, April 22, 2017 (UTC)ggC1ND3R_STR1P3

Me too. It does contain many PB-related articles. --  17:35, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

I think it should be revamped and made part of PB. 16:14 Sun May 7

It looks like everyone supports the page being revamped. Any other comments? 23:34 Sun May 14

Okay, looks like everyone agrees to revamping it. How should we go about it? I say we keep what's there + add the facts that we now take stuff from Kates blog and Vicky + add cites for the definition of canon from wikipedia, and maybe include a dropdown or some kind of image/graphic/template depicting the series, the canon books, or just something else significant. Just something book related to tie it to PB.

Head's up, I got a nice idea for this, but I'm at work and can't type it up. I'll comment more after my doctor's appointment later. Just letting y'all know to hold off for a little bit so I can chime in.

OKAY a few days late, but sorry, things came up. I think we could revamp the page, but I'm not totally sure what exactly we'd be taking from Kate's blog or Vicky's Facebook pages? Would we take them saying what information is canon and all of that? Because honestly, it wouldn't hurt to at least mention the role play aspect, but mention that this is a place for strict canon information only? Having a definition of what canon is, what counts as a valid canon source, ect, would be an excellent idea. I'm not sure, though, exactly how big you'd want this page to be? We could actually tie it into all projects and just keep it as a general "canonical information" page, or something along those lines... it doesn't have to be just for PB if all projects can benefit from it.

Ah yeah, I meant saying on the page that we take info from Kate's Blog/Vicky's Facebook as canon, and all of that. It'd almost act as a cite guide, even though it isn't really one. I like the idea of tying it into all of the projects, but I also think it should be linked to one project in particular to receive a silver grade. Perhaps that project should be PR instead of PB, though, if we're including more real life aspects than not.

Yes, that's basically what I meant. Although, if we're going to shift this to PR, I would highly suggest having everything ready first, due to PR often being forgotten and too small to get maybe more than a comment or two. A page like this should...really have more than one or two agreeing comments and an actual discussion. Icy is also without a computer for a little while, so I'd suggest also going to poke her once you've decided what to do with it, that way she knows to comment. Does anyone have a rough draft of what they'd want it to look like, or are we going to follow the layout used on other pages?

Poking my head in and mentioning I am still without a laptop so please don't yell at me. But may I be messaged once you all have a good idea of where the conversation is going? I will not be able to check the Wiki as often. 02:35, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah of course we can message you :)^^ My idea for the format was a version of Warriors Books in that we have a blurb up top that says something like 'Canon is what is considered real.. etc. and is determined by x, y, or z' and that we have different sections and sub-sections for each topic. Those topics could be like what cites we take, specifically which wording of cites we take from Vicky's Facebook and Kate's Blog, and then what counts from the books, erin hunter chats, etc. and stuff.

~Ravenpaw's Farewell/Chapter 6 ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? -- Starling  spots  04:48, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

You mean to nominate a chapter right?

No, I think they meant to nominate the book article. 09:31, 6/27/2017

,,The article is gold status??

Sorry about that. I meant to nominate the chapter itself. Starling  spots  11:35, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

CBV?

Ahh I'm sorry this is so late, I wasn't able to look at this earlier.
 * Bella and Riley see Barley and are excited to see him again. "see" sounds redundant, maybe just say "Bella and riley are excited to see Barley again"?
 * "Ravenpaw affectionately tells him he knows how to motivate them to which Barley tells the small tom he is proud of him for doing this." I at first found it a bit confusing on who 'he' was.
 * "Bella is horrified watching her brother fall in, until he emerges with a fish in his jaws. He presents it to the loners and he and his sister eat it." If Riley presented the fish to the Ravenpaw and Barley then why are he and Bella eating it? Do you mean he showed the fish to them?
 * For the characters list: in the major section, the characters should be in order of when they appeared, so Barley should be last and Bella and Riley's order might be switched; also, it still says 'coming soon' for minor characters, so the minor characters subsection should be removed (I don't think there were any minor characters in this chapter?). 07:31 Mon Jul 3

Fixed Starling   spots  15:34, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Re-CBV? 16:33 Sat Jul 8

Ravenpaw's Farewell/Chapter 7 ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? Starling  spots  17:44, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

CBV?
 * In the very first sentence:"The cats move on from spending the night next to the waterfall. They continue following the river, which begins to narrow." Imo these two sentences both sound choppy and would be better if combined, but that's totally your choice.
 * "The cats move on from spending the night next to the waterfall. They continue following the river, which begins to narrow. The cats walk in single file," 'cats' sounds redundant.
 * "Riley offers to investigate some gorse bushes. The others reach him to see he had found the bushes forming a small cave." I think these two sentences would also sound better combined, but again it's your decision.
 * "Riley and Bella are anxious the Clan won't accept them, and their uncle promises he'll take them home if that happens." imo 'but' would be more fitting since the first and second half of the sentence are kinda saying opposite things if that makes sense.
 * "The clouds covering the sky bring an early dusk. Ravenpaw decides to stop so they could find SkyClan tomorrow." I think these two also sound choppy and could be combined, but again your call. Also, I think it would be 'can' instead of 'could' to be in present tense? Not sure though...
 * "The black loner leaves the stream and smells a strong whiff of cats, both scents being warrior and kittypet." I'm a bit confused on what you mean by 'both scents being', do you mean he smelled both warrior and kittypet scent? If so, I think it would make more sense if you just said "...smells a strong whiff of cats, both warrior and kittypet."
 * "The kits fall asleep and the loner lies next to his friend" Since it had been a bit since Barley was last mentioned, I think it might be better to just say "Barley" instead of "his friend"; I don't think it would sound redundant like that either.
 * "Ravenpaw snarls at the intruders to leave them alone and approaches him threateningly." Do you mean 'them' instead of 'him', since it said 'intruders' (plural) earlier? Or do you mean he approaches Pasha - if so, I think it would be better to say something else instead of him, like 'the tabby kittypet' or 'the leader kittypet' or something.
 * "Barley stands next to Ravenpaw, and a ginger-and-white she-cat agrees with the tabby. He tells the small loner to get lost and is answered is a clout between his ears." Who is the 'he', and who is the 'small loner'?
 * For the major characters list, the characters should be in order of when they appeared, so I think Ravenpaw appearead before Barley since he's the PoV. Also, I think it might look better if you split the mclist into 2 instead of 1, but that's just my opinion, it's totally your choice. :) 07:59 Mon Jul 3

Fixed Starling   spots  15:03, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Re-CBV? 16:35 Sat Jul 8

Midnight (Book)/Chapter 14 - Silver Nomination
01:50, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
 * "Brambleclaw replies that he doesn't know anything more about the prophecy than anyone else, and that all had to have faith things would work out in the end." The second half of the sentence is confusing, it sounds like it's missing a word, could you fix this?
 * I think Midnight should be in the mentioned list as (Unnamed) because it said "Feathertail then brings up the prophecy, wondering why StarClan is sending them to sun-drown-place and why they have to hear their ancestors' message at midnight." They don't know that Midnight is the badger but they still are kinda mentioning her without being aware of it. Idk, only if you agree. 07:04 Thu Jul 6

Updated. I reworded that part of the sentence a little bit (it was missing words), but I'd rather not link to Midnight. Feathertail isn't talking about the character at all, she's completely talking about the time of day. I think the mentioned list is for characters that are actually explicitly mentioned, which I don't believe is the case here. 13:20, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

CBV?

Outcast/Chapter 4 ~ Silver Nomination
Credits to whoever made the character list. Comments? 09:29 Wed Jul 5

In the first paragraph, apprentice should be lowercase, and instead of 'apprentice den' it should be 'apprentices' den', I believe.

Updated For the second, it said 'apprentice den' in the book too so I kept it. 06:21 Thu Jul 6

CBV?

Bluestar's Prophecy/Chapter 27 - Silver Nomination
I know it's confusing who's doing what in some parts, but they're both she-cats, they're sisters, they both have blue eyes, and there's like 3 different ways to distinguish them and they get repetitive. Also, RIP Snowfur.

"A patrol of three cats are complaining about how they lost a squirrel when it was chased into ThunderClan territory. A black tom suggests they head back to ShadowClan's territory," territory is a little redundant here (maybe say 'land' for one of them instead?), and if you wanted to you could link 'ThunderClan territory' to The Forest Territories or ThunderClan. 16:11 Fri Jul 7

fixed I already have TC's forest territory linked in the previous paragraph.

Midnight (Book)/Chapter 15 - Silver Nomination
23:58, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * "Leafpaw, embarrassed, feels as if the RiverClan she-cat had put her in her place." I was confused on who the 'hers' were, if you could find a way to fix that then could you? (I don't know if there really is any way to make it more clear though)
 * "Hawkfrost had told his sister not to worry, as she didn't have to prove her loyalty to the other warriors, only to StarClan, and that the sign would arrive eventually. It does appear a few days before the half moon" Is this supposed to be does or did?
 * Maybe link "moth's wing" or "omen" or something in that sentence to Prophecies and Omens? 16:21 Fri Jul 7

Updated. 16:38, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

Spottedleaf's Heart/Chapter 10 ~ Silver Nomination
CBV?

A Dangerous Path/Chapter 26 - Silver Nomination
I feel like if people filled in chapters as much as people made chararts, PB wouldn't have half as many empty pages lmao. (Did that sound rude?? It wasn't meant to be, but rereading it, it kinda sounds rude, sorry.)

It is not rude, it is true. In "regular intervals" - do you think you could be more specific? I remember that in the book, I believe Fireheart gave them certain places to stay at, and where to run. 04:24, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Nope, it actually just says "He took the rest of his warriors along a line stretching all the way to the gorge, leaving each of them at regular intervals as he went: Next Longtail, the Dustpelt, and then Mousefur." I can try to add something to be more specific, but I'm not sure what I would add?

"The siblings' eyes are sparkling with fury, their grief for their mother forgotten. " Could you link "their mother" to Brindleface? 16:43 Sat Jul 8

fixed

The Darkest Hour/Chapter 2 - Silver Nomination
Hardly touched it. A lot of people worked on this in the past, so credit to all of them.

Hold on, realized I missed a chuck of past tense while I gave it a once-over. Pause the nomination folks

All (or most) minor things should be fixed now.
 * Link 'fire' in the 1st paragraph to Natural_Disasters, and forest to The Forest Territories?
 * Maybe link 'Highrock' in the 2nd paragraph to Clan_Meeting?
 * Maybe link 'cermeony' in the 4th paragraph to Deputy Ceremony?
 * "The ginger tom faces Darkstripe and tells him to leave if he didn't want a kittypet as leader." I think it should be 'doesn't.
 * "he prays to StarClan he would have the power to defeat him." I think it should be 'will' 17:37 Sat Jul 8

fixed

August FA
Thoughts? We have two novellas left, Mistystar's Omen or Spottedleaf's Heart, or we could even do a field guide like Cats of the Clans

I think it would be best to have the older books have the spotlight before the newer ones. After all, Spottedleaf's Heart did just recently come out. Cats of the Clans probably has waited forever. Maybe Cats of the Clans?

I like Cats of the Clans for the FA

I agree that some of the older books should go first since they've been around the longest. I think either SotC, CotC, or The Warriors Guide would be an excellent choice for next month's featured article. Starling  spots  20:51, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Cats of the Clans has my support. 07:45, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Pinestar's Choice/Chapter 3 ~ Silver Nomination
In the first paragraph, I think 'felt' would be 'feels', add a link to camp, and maybe link territory to The Forest Territories?

enter the clans
Shouldn't Enter the Clans have chapters subpages?? It has cliffnotes, so? *shrugs*