Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Accepted 125

Ancient Tribe Blanks ~ Approved


(ill crop all of the extra space on the next upload.) Comments? 03:56, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Why do those look slightly different from these? o.o The blanks should be pixel-like, how the ones in your PI are. Also, if you just want to put one long-haired and one short-haired up, that's fine, that way we don't have four extra images. You can just add eyelashes/remove them, depending on which set you have first. The only difference between male and female ones here are the eyelashes.

Because, I tweaked them a bit. I can easily make them pixelated: I just didn't have enough time right this second. I thought I'd just go ahead and post them now, so I can fix anatomy errors while I'm fixing other issues. ^^` -- 04:19, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Elongate the body, and perhaps make the ears a bit thinner. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:28, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Well, like the other blanks, they do have to be pixelated. I wasn't sure that you were aware of that or not, so I figured that informing you would be a good idea. If you could please do that, I would appreciate it. I won't comment much aside from small issues- anatomy is not my strong point.

Maybe flatten the rump a bit. 06:35, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Add a bit more fluff to the longhaired tails? I told you you'd win! 07:59, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

For the longhaired blanks add more fluffiness all around. 3:05 PM, Mon Sep 15, 2014

Would you like a redline? 15:52 Mon Sep 15 2014

Also, in generally I'd recommend flipping them so they don't get confused with the elder blanks. 15:53 Mon Sep 15 2014

Try smoothing rounding out the line about the shoulder, and maybe make the line for the chest reach all the way down? Sorry if I'm being unclear, I'm crap at wording things >< 16:36, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

The forepaw that goes on top of the other one goes up awkwardly, so maybe try to show that it's connected to the leg? Sorry I am really terrible at explaining stuff like this. 20:31 Mon Sep 15

Re-uploaded. Better? ^^' I dont have a tablet, so drawing these with a mouse is difficult. ^^' But, i tried to add all of the above. Im aware that i have to fix the eye on the shorthaired blank, and the ear on the longfurred blank. Im aware of some issues, but i didnt have enough time to fix them on this upload. ^^'-- 02:23, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

They still have to be pixelated, and Breezey's suggestion for flipping them so they don't get confused with the elders is a really good idea. ^^

Make it so this > front paw doesn't look so short and almost rectangle-like. Make it more curved like < this one. These are really good. ^.^ 03:08, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Uhm so I forgot to reflip them around but the image is the same. Here are some redlines. 3:17 Tue Sep 16 2014

Elongate the body more, lower/flatten the rump a bit especially on the longhair, make the tail way fuller, and flatten the forehead a bit. Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:18, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Breezy told me the redlines could be used as a reference, or just lined directly over. The redline helped greatly; thank you, Raelic. Better?-- 04:27, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

This looks really good. :) The only thing I can think of is make the tail even fluffier. Look how full this tail is compared to the rest of the cat: http://thornews.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/norsk-skogkatt1.jpg I can do redlines for the tail if you want. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 04:29, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Also, make the shorthair tail a bit thinner. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:34, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

It wouldn't hurt to add a bit more fluff to the longhairs all over, methinks. 08:48, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

The lines could be a little bit thinner. i'm still so glad these won because that pose if beautiful imho   Brick   14:45, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

It could probably only be thinner in certain places. I think, comparing it to some of the other blanks we have, they're around the same thickness.

The neck kinda resembles a dragon neck. Can you bring the neck line behind the head a few pixels closer to the nose side of the head? Like move that line over >>>> this way more. 20:35 Tue Sep 16

Can you elongate the body just a tick more? 8:44 PM, Tue Sep 16, 2014

Re-uploaded. I'd rather not elongate it anymore, it looks fine to me. Moved the neck line, fluffified the longfurred more, and made the short fur tail thinner. Better?-- 21:51, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

The arm on <<< this side looks awkward. Move the chest line <<<< more so that the chest appears larger. 23:57 Tue Sep 16

Make the longhair tail fluffier with a tiny bit more of a point to it (look at the Queen and Elder blanks to see what I mean) and the shorthair tail should be even skinnier. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:11, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I think it might be fluffy enough, it just need a bit more of a tapering off at the end. It's the shorthair that needs to be much skinnier. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:59, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Lengthen the visible back leg? It looks a bit short to me.--EosOfTheDawn (talk) 18:10, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

I think for the back leg if you erase a bit of the line separating the leg from the foot it may help. Do you want me to give you a redline? 7:11 PM, Thu Sep 18, 2014

redline as per request. I think if you move the tail out away from the foot a bit more, and elongate the foot and erase a bit of that line it'll help. 11:19 PM, Thu Sep 18, 2014

I think the shorthair tail should be thinner than that, personally. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:40, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'd thicken the ruff on the longhair's neck 03:26, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

I will reupload soon. =) Probably sometime this weekend.-- 02:30, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better?-- 01:03, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Make the tail on the shorthair thinner, and have more of a tapering off for the tip of the long-haired tail. The thickest part of the tail should be the middle. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:14, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

I did that in the last upload. Do you want me to add more?-- 01:22, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. It looks like you added more bulk to the top of the tail, instead of thinning out the top of the tail and adding more bulk to the middle of the tail. Would you like me to redline? And yes to thinning out the shorthair tail. It's close, it just needs to be a bit thinner, especially when compared to the longhair tail. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:27, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Give the longhair some more floof on the tail. 1:40 Thu Sep 25

Don't forget to reupload, Breeze. While you aren't required to match the "week limit" without uploads on blanks (that would not be fair in the least, as these require much more time), it's probably a good idea to let us know what kind of progress you've made.

So sorry for the lack of uploads! I've been insanely busy with school. Im working on the reuploaded version now. =)-- 15:26, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps make the longhaired blank's paws a bit more furrier? 19:17, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

lengthen the hind leg 03:26, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

After thinking about this for a long while, I've decided to withdraw from working on these. I just don't have the time or motivation to work on them anymore, and its not fair to you guys for having to wait for these blanks to be approved. I've been majorly busy with school and life, and barely being able to be on the computer. But please remember: Whoever takes these and puts them up for approval, use the same stance. The nomination was for the member's favorite pose, and this pose was voted as the best fitting for the Ancients. Again, im sorry about this. Im just happy i was able to win the vote, and ill look forward to seeing whoever decides to post these next. =) Preferably, i'd like to offer these to either Shinx or Hawky to put back up for approval, since they were nominee's in the vote, so its only fair.-- 23:08, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

You withdrew them?? Well, I'll take em please, if you're absolutely sure and it's OK with the project. 23:17, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good! I'm sure Shinx will do well! Thank you for doing these so far, Breeze! 23:21, 10/10/2014

Question: Will we be maintaining the same pose? 23:46 Fri Oct 10

I've asked Shinx, and told them both Jayce and I believe the same pose should be kept. So most likely, yes.-- 23:48, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. That is the pose we voted on. To change it now throws that vote entirely out the window and it's not fair at all to Breeze, who requested her pose be kept.

I wouldn't change it anyway; I adore this pose and it's much better than anything I could come up with. 23:54, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups I killed them. 08:51, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Thin the left paw a bit? don't worry you didn't kill them at all  Brick   10:25, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups thrice Tweaked the shorthair tail too, and then I tweaked the paw again. And then I played with the longhairs a bit. Apparently, drawing shorthair tails is as bad as shading them. 11:33, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

The neck seems too large in the back. If you move the line over a few pixels it should do the trick. Also, thin the forepaws some. These are actually quite nice as they are, I must say. 13:48 Sat Oct 11

Thanks, Hawky 14:12, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

The hind foot look a little room oval-like. Try defining the toes like for the forepaws 16:44, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups 17:07, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

This looks great! Maybe make the shorthair tail a touch thinner, and close the mouth around the tongue a little? Just a suggestion. Jayie Unwritten words~ 18:30, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups thanks jayie 18:47, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Awesome! :D The only other thing I can think of is that on the longhair, the fluffier part of the neck shouldn't be at the top right next to the head, but towards the middle and/or base of the neck, since long-haired cats tend to have sort of ruffy necks. Also, move the cheek fluff to the left a bit when you do that. Jayie Unwritten words~ 19:00, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups Could I please have a redline of the longhair haunch from someone? It's bugging me, but I can't seem to get it right. 19:33, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

I can help you out, if you'd like? 19:46 Sat Oct 11

Yes, please. The haunch looks strangely shaped on the longhairs, but I can't fix it. 19:50, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Here you go. The blue is line that needs to be removed, and the red is what I offer. 19:58 Sat Oct 11

Thanks 20:06, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

The tail on the shorthair looks really thin towards the tip, and thicker towards the base. Try evening that out a bit?-- 20:20, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

These look really nice, Shinx! =) thicken the farthest front leg from us. And if you could, make the back and haunch of the longfurred more fluffy-looking? 00:00, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I think the front leg that's closest to us needs some thinning out. I honestly think the haunch is fine, but the foreleg needs to be thinned out some. <span style="">1:38 Sun Oct 12

Re-ups Is it possible for me to get a redline of the shorthair tails, please? 08:38, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Here. Hmm, I hope this is okay. As before, the blue should be removed and the red is what I offer. Hopefully it's not too thick now. <span style="">14:07 Sun Oct 12

Re-ups Thanks! 17:10, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Tbh, i dont see anything else wrong. These look amazing, Shinx. =)-- 17:15, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Because of the pose, would the back leg furthest from us be visible, because of the belly? 17:39, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I think so. I haven't got a very good reference, since I can't find an image of a cat in that pose so I'm going by memory, but if you want I can remove it, since IDK if it would be or not. 17:48, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe just remove them? I dont think they'd be visible. These are beautiful. =)-- 17:52, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re-upped a while ago 19:10, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps make the chest a bit wider?? 15:20, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups only a few pixels wider, but cats IRL don't have huge chests. 16:10, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

You know what? Breeze did an amazing job with these, and it didn't take much to top them off into some amazing blanks. I'm going to CBA these wonderful pieces of work. I went ahead and added the female LHs and male SHs, then 20:20, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

a minor thing, but please smooth out the neck on the longhaired blanks so they connect to the head like on the short haired ones <span style="">21:10 Mon Oct 13 2014

They used to be like that, and I got told to change it. Shall I fix the shorthairs instead? 21:13, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

I meant that the fur should be thicker by the base of the neck, not that the fur shouldn't connect to the head. Jayie Unwritten words~ 21:32, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, kk. I'll fix it, hang on. 21:35, October 13, 2014 (UT

Re-ups 21:42, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Can you add more fluff to the neck further down, closer to the chest? I can redline it if you'd like. Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:19, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

It looks fine, imho. There wouldn't be that much fluff.-- 23:20, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Agreeing with Breeze. Anyways, I honestly see nothing wrong with these any more, so I'll Re-CBA them. <span style="">0:07 Tue Oct 14

Interrupting my own CBA because i forgot that whiskers were a thing cats had. Re-ups, whoops 13:35, October 14, 2014 (UTC)

That's literally too minor to even really break the CBA and doesn't affect the blanks any more than waste does, imho. So we're gonna continue where Hawky re-CBA'd, I think.

Approved.