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Sunfish (Q) ~ For Approval
So like, apparently you can have a redone queen AND something else for approval now? I did not know this. Buuut here. All colors from the Warrior.

If I messed this up in any way feel free to shoot me Shinxy Blitz and Melody 15:46, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading and light on all four legs. 16:57, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Shinxy Blitz and Melody 17:16, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

Define tail and belly shading. Brick 19:10, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

lighten her up a bit 23:21, June 27, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Shinxy Blitz and Melody 07:46, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on that hind leg furthest to us - there'd be ligh tni that position. 14:12, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Shinxy Blitz and Melody 08:46, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail a little bit, and perhaps make the light on the belly a little more visible? Ah, I wish Sunfish had gotten more screen time, I like her. ;-;

'''Re-uploaded. '''I agree, she should have had more time V_V. In case changes don't show, have a link. Shinxy Blitz and Melody 10:26, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit more on the belly.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 04:31, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Changes. Shinxy Blitz and Melody 09:36, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

lighten the shading a tad? it's throwing off the color 15:22, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I darkened it on the face, though, because I could hardly see it. Shinxy Blitz and Melody 21:42, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading.

'''Re-uploaded. '''Shinxy Blitz  and  Melody  17:48, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Thin out the shading. 19:01, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't understand what that means..? Make it so that there's a bit less shading...? Shinxy Blitz  and  Melody  23:08, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

^^ It basically means make the highlights larger. Even out the shading darkness and define your light source 04:08, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Shinxy Blitz  and  Melody  13:05, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Pikepaw (MO) (A) - For Approval
i like this comments? 18:19, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Could you make his markings look more fish-like? 18:30, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

well, i tried already, this is a pike. that's what i tried to base this off of, and in other images the spots are bigger, basically there's not to great of a consistent pattern in the mottles in northern pikes, which is what i want to base this off of because of his name. 18:35, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Could you make them vary in size, though? I love pike and it's kinda cool we got his gender confirmed

Blur the shadong some? 22:05, 07/1/2014

Re-uploaded I didn't erase any of the mottles I had but i added a new layer and added smaller mottles in a new layer 22:57, July 1, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading. 18:07 Thu Jul 3

Define the facial shading.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 04:34, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

re-uploaded 14:13, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

anything else?? 21:33, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Blur your shading- it's way too hard-edged. Try to avoid using gaussian blur, which will give you the over-blurred, undefined look, and go for using a large, super fuzzy smudge tool to feather out certain areas. Shading will be softer on cuirved, plump areas, like on the haunch, tail, and belly, but it'll be a little sharper on bonier regions. 02:41, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

re-uploaded i redid and tried something new witht the shading 05:27, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Define the tail shading; I can't see it at all.

re-uploaded 05:55, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Thin out the shading a bit. 23:43, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Snowy (Q) - For Approval
Hey there. I like this very much. / Changes here if needed 23:47, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light source. Also, the shading on the belly and hind legs seems quite gray. 23:50 Thu Jul 3

Question: How do you define the light source? As for the shading, I'll have that up in a moment. 23:52, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups  23:54, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Defining the light source means to make the light face the same way everywhere on the cat. So let's say that your light source in in the top right corner. Everything in shadow would be everything from the bottom left corner. Idk I'm bad at explaining. As for the shading, It wasn't that gray. Now you need to define it. Sorry for the trouble! ^-^` 2:23 Fri Jul 4

Define the light on her foreleg farthest from us.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 05:17, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups  15:22, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front two legs. Darkness-wise, I think they're pretty good, but they could use some slight definition. She's looking good, Rocket. Keep up the amazing work.

Re-Ups Thank you, Jayce :)  14:39, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

The shading near the belly is a bit blotchy- blur it. This is good .o. 21:24 Sat Jul 5

Re-Up  21:28, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Any comments? 16:31, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

define the shading ont he bottom of the face and on her front left paw 17:16, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up  17:45, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the back leg closest to us? As in, the one in the air? <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Shinxy Blitz and Melody 11:55, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. 15:52, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Define, don't darken, the shading.

re-Up  17:20, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Now the shading looks blotchy O.o Blur it, please. <span style="">11:36 Sun Jul 13

re-up  15:42, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

The shading looks really dark for a white cat... maybe lighten it up a little bit?--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:36, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. I don't really want to lighten the shading anymore than this, and the shading darkness /apparently/ is the artists choice unless it's too dark or too light... oh well. Feel free to flame me as you wish. i like this tho <span style="">00:36 Mon Jul 14

Sharpen the facial shading a bit and thin it out. Blur the tail shading a little more, and thin out the shading on the legs. Be sure to blur the shading on her front right leg, too! Lightening it would probably help make it look softer, or tinting it, too. For white cats, I usually tint my shading a little bit blue (so I choose a very dark, gray-blue to color with) which helps make a white cats' fur seem soft. Or if I want to give them thin fur, I tint it a red instead. Tinting is optional, but really helps add depth. 19:00, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. http://www.ezimba.com/work/140716C/ezimba17991082104600.png I really don't like this now. I thought it was /fine/ before, tbh. e.e <span style="">23:11 Tue Jul 15

Ferncloud (Q) ~ For Approval
ew, I know. My first dapples, and I'm not entirely impressed. Changes be here 15:28, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading. 16:55, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Reups changes aren't showing yet 21:24, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

blur the dapples a bit. Also, possibly lighten them a tad to match the kit, apprentice, and warrior, that's up to you though. 23:28, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

I'm having a difficult time seeing the ear pink in --> ear. Mind shifting some shading around a bit so I can see it?

Reups changes 14:36, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on her front legs.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 04:36, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Reups 10:00, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

-nudges- 20:43, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Wouldn't there be at least some light on her chest?

That depends on the light source. The face is suggesting a frontal light source, so yes, there would be light on the chest, but the tail suggests from behind, where there wouldn't be any, depending on the angle of the shading. Like in Hawk Swoop's queen, the light from behind is at a slight angle, which illuminates the sharper bones in her facial region, but because cats don't have convex chests, the chest itself isn't lit up. 02:38, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Dosen't really tell me what to do, sorry... do I add/remove/leave the chest shading? 18:53, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

I think she's saying tweak your light source to either match the face or the tail. I'd say go with the tail, since it matches Hawk Swoop's, and that's an amazing source.

I don't see how I would tweak the tail shading, though, since it looks the same on Hawk's and on Fern's 14:49, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Not quite. The facial shading is different. I think the shading is more focused on the top of the head and side of the face (note how those things are different on that image compared to yours). This seems more centered around the side of her face, instead of moreso on the head and side. Basically, imagine the shading as a wheel- You'd probably need to turn the shading a bit in order to shift that highlight and probably make it smaller. You'd need to fix the facial shading if you're going with the tail shading, and the tail shading if you're going with the facial shading. I think I explained that basically enough, I am terrible with these and if I am wrong please come and correct me.

I still don't really understand... could someone give me a shading placement for the face? 02:58, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

The highlight is in the middle of her face- if your light is coming from behind, then her muzzle will mostly be in shadow, and really only her cheekbone, the side of her face, and her browbone would be illuminated. The shading at the tip of the tail would be gone, as well, as the way it sits right now suggests the light's coming up from below instead of straight from the side. Hawk Swoop's highlights are pretty easy to spot, so make sure they sorta line up with her's and you'll be okay. 22:48, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

I can barely see her face highlights, actually. Can't someone please give me a face shading placement? It would make it much easier. 17:15, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Here you go. The blue is where shading needs to be added, and the creamy-white color is where highlights need to be added. 18:57, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Fallowfern (Q) - For Approval
Hey. 15:53, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading and light on her legs. 15:54, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups 16:04, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the edges of the belly shading, and darken it while you're at it.

IDK if it's necessary, but add some shading around her shoulder, too? <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Shinxy Blitz and Melody 12:29, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. I'll add shading around the shoulder if someone else asks me to. It looks okay to me, but, then again, I'm a newbie 14:43, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, go ahead and do that. I think you'd need it with your source anyways.

Re-Ups I really hope it's shaped okay. This image is actually really, /really/ fun. 15:06, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Remove that bit of shading right by the chest since it doesn't belong there. And you might want to get a second opinion on this, but can you define the earpink a bit? Also blur the stomach shading a tad. 16:34, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups. Ehhhhhhh... okay. The earpink is under the shading layers, I'll re-do it if someone else agrees, mainly because it took a few tries to get them right without seemind, well, neon-ish. also the shading is strange on her leg i know but that's the only way I could include the shoulder and not the chest. 17:36, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

By shoulder I meant that line between the belly and the head, but okay... Darken the shading on the legs slightly, maybe? And there's waste by her chest. <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Shinxy Blitz and Melody 18:57, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Better? I've got 13 layers of shading on this one cat... how did this happen? 20:42, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Define the tail and facial shading; also, define the earpink a bit. i can barely see it, especially in the <--- ear.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 04:37, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. I moved the earpink so it was above all the shading. 14:03, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on her tail 22:44, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Sorry it took so long, I've been working and away from GIMP. 21:13, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Comments? 00:44, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on the hindleg furthest from us; there would be light there.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 03:39, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

There is light there, on the inside closest to her belly. If I try to add more, it'll throw off the shading I already have, because the original shading (where the light is) is connected to the original shading on her belly, face, legs, and tail. 15:49, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re up. i am so done with this shading tbh. 15:58, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the belly shading.

re-up. 17:21, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Comments? <span style="">23:10 Tue Jul 15

Add some depth in the shading 04:06, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Define the earpink.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 06:50, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

re-up http://www.ezimba.com/work/140717C/ezimba17991054259200.png <span style="">14:56 Wed Jul 16

Petalnose (Q) ~ For Approval
Here's the new version Whew, first charart in ages. It's probably for the best that I chose something simple since it's been awhile xD. Anyways, comments? 17:03, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

The shading leaks away from the lineart on her belly 17:27, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

I cleared all of the outside shading twice to make sure it was gone, so there shouldn't be any. 17:35, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

No... I didn't mean outside of the lineart. Along her belly in just one little spot I can see white where there should be shading. Sorry to confuse you! 17:38, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's ok! I didn't notice that at first. Pixlr always makes the stomach shading leak away from the lineart sometimes 18:01, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Define the tail shading. Good work :)~Breezeheart~ (talk) 04:39, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded and thank you C: 21:58, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

define the light on the tail. 22:22, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded 23:35, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

The belly shading seems a bit gray. 14:29, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded It needed to be lightened, so that's why I did. 22:43, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

ok honestly this looks way too white, you can actualy tell shes even a grey cat tbh. maybe change that? 12:20, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

I color picked the colors from her warrior image, so unless someone else thinks her color is too white I'm not going to change it. 01:09, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Darken it; she's gonna end up being tweaked anyways.

Reuploaded 18:30, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Define the head shading, and perhaps the foreleg shading too? <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinxy Blitz  and  Melody  22:29, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:02, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink and define the light source 04:06, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded I just redid the shading to look like another queen's charart I saw. Hopefully the light source is clear on this one. I'm going to kill the tail shading though. 13:20, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Floss (Q) - For Approval
New lineart, new charart. Colorpicked from her loner image. this was fun c: <span style="">22:04 Sat Jul 5

Define the shading and possibly add more white spots on her belly, tail, and legs. 22:08, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. I decided to use pure white because the shading was making it gray. hope this is better <span style="">22:11 Sat Jul 5

Re-up. Added highlights, since it might help lighten the belly. They're too bright, though, imo. <span style="">22:21 Sat Jul 5

Define the overall shading. Try tinting it, so it doesn't make the white look gray?--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 04:40, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I don't think you have to tint shading, so I decided not to. <span style="">10:11 Sun Jul 6

the white is looking very gray, it almost blends in with the other gray as it is now. I'd suggest lessening the shading a bit,a nd I think a tint might help. 22:23, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. <span style="">23:24 Mon Jul 7

I'm not sure, but is there waste around the image? 14:27, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

It looks a little fuzzy around the edges, so either waste or blurred lineart. 21:15, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. i hate waste tbh <span style="">23:35 Tue Jul 8

smudge the earpink upwards? 17:02, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

I decided not to smudge the earpink, since I sort of like the earpink as is, and I can't smudge it without not being able to blur it again. <span style="">00:19 Fri Jul 11

I agree with rocket, I can't even see that it's smudged. also, the white looks very gray. 00:41, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Smudging ear pink is not mandatory and it is solely a preference. The ear pink is fine as it currently is.

Re-up. Something's being blurred around the lineart. <span style="">10:57 Sun Jul 13

Define the shading 19:52, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Define the facial shading, and define the light on the tail.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:35, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. <span style="">23:57 Sun Jul 13

Add a bit of light on the tail, the shading's a bit flat there, and add some shadow to the face 04:05, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on the front leg closest to us.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 06:49, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Cinderfur (Star) - For Approval
Colorpicked from apprentice image. 'Nuff said. <span style="">23:05 Sat Jul 5

Define the light on the tail and I'm having issues seeing the light source. The body says it's coming from the top left, while the forelegs says it's coming from the bottom left. <span style="">23:21 Sat Jul 5

Re-up. <span style="">00:11 Sun Jul 6

Make the nose color pink. His kit image has a pink nose, and i think his others do aswell.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 04:42, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. i've got to blur that belly shading soon ._. <span style="">10:11 Sun Jul 6

Put some light on the front of those legs, they look a bit flat since they're totally in shadow. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:34, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe lighten all the shading a tad, too? Except on the tail? <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Shinxy Blitz and Melody 11:35, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Define the earpink. i love dem eyes   Brick   15:24, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Add/define the tail light 22:40, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. Sorry, I had day camp and I had to go home at 5:00, then I had other things. <span style="">23:24 Mon Jul 7

I see some waste near the tail. 14:29, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. <span style="">23:35 Tue Jul 8

Add some light around the paws? <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Shinxy Blitz and Melody 08:53, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. <span style="">00:19 Fri Jul 11

The shading on the paws are way to dark, and also there is alot of waste near the paws aswell. Maybe changing your light source would help, so that both paws have light on them. The way you have it now makes it look flat.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 03:37, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. oopsies <span style="">01:02 Sat Jul 12

Re-up. Redid all the shading, since it was really tough to do. <span style="">10:45 Sat Jul 12

Define the paw shading.

Re-up. <span style="">22:33 Sat Jul 12

Define the light on the legs and tail. 19:51, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the fur into the ear pink a little more.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:34, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. ^^you two keep spamming my chararts lmao <span style="">23:57 Sun Jul 13

Define the light on the tail and maybe add a small highlight to the chest 04:04, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Palebird (Ki) - For Approval
shoves palekit at you <span style="">03:38, 07/7/2014

The earpink looks a little small, can you expand it a tad? *pushes Palekit back* Brick   15:00, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

the earpink looks fine, imho, but can you smudge or blur the shading a bit more 22:23, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Agreeing with Duck about the earpink. Define the eye depth a smidge -hugs Palekit- she's so freaking cute 22:39, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

'Reups she was also a pain in my rear to do lmao <span style="">23:13, 07/7/2014

Blur/smudge/blend the shading a little more.

GIMP keep crashing on me, I'll get this up as soon as possible. I am still working- however, GIMP isn't. ;u; <span style="">14:22, 07/12/2014

ok it finally worked reups <span style="">00:02, 07/16/2014

Whiteclaw ~ (Star) For Approval
He needed a StarClan image. Color-picked from his Warrior and Apprentice images. Comments?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 01:20, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading. Those eyes are beautiful *.* <span style="">1:59 Tue Jul 8

The white paw seems a bit gray; maybe remove a bit of shading. 14:26, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. Defined the shading, and lightened the white paw shading a tad. I didnt want to lighten it that much, because then i would get told to define it. Better?--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 08:29, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

define the shading on the paw. 15:20, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. Like i said, i was told to lighten it, and then tod to define it. :/. Defined the shading on the paw. Better?--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 02:53, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

You can have lighter shading and it still be visible. If you want lighter shading and visible at the same time, perhaps try unblurring the shading a bit? Defining means to make more visible. It does not mean darken. I think PCA needs a group lesson on what the difference is between define and darken, myself included.

True, but when i do that i get told to blur it more. :/~Breezeheart~ (talk) 03:56, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Define the chest shading.

The white paw is the wrong side, it should be the cat's left, to match the other images. Brick  17:27, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. Switched the white paw, and defined the chest shading. Better?--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 03:11, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his white paw just a little bit. Not too much, though. Just enough to smooth it out a little bit.

Could you just 'feather' the edges of the white paw where it goes to the black? The other images show tufts of white going into the black, but your one is blurred. 19:51, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up. Blurred the shading on the white paw a tad bit, and feathered the top. Better?--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:28, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Sharpen the facial shading a bit more and the shading near the armpit, as the curves on the cat are sharper there and would cast a bolder shadow than on more round regions. 23:42, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

I think its fine. I shaded Featherwhisker's StarClan image the same way as i did on this. But if someone else agrees, i will.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:47, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Dawnflower (Queen) ~ For Approval
She needed a Queen image. Color-picked from her Elder charart. Comments?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 04:46, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

don't darken but define the overall shading. 04:51, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

I think its fine. I can clearly see the shading as it is now. But if anyone else agrees, i will.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 05:13, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Duck, define the shading, please. Brick 06:15, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading some too? 13:04, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

And add a tiny bit of light on the back paw, perhaps? <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: black;">Shinxy Blitz and Melody 15:36, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Really just blur the shading and maybe add a bit of depth to it- make it get gradually darker along the edges furthest from the light source, to make her have a 3D feel. :) 02:34, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-up. Blurred the shading, '''and defined the light some.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 03:52, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe add a bit more depth to the shading? 18:59, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading.

Sharpen the shading a bunch on the face, and sharpen it on the shoulders and the thinner portions of the legs. Blur it a bit more on the main part of the haunch and the tail, as fluffier fur casts a softer shadow than shorter, bonier areas that aren't nearly as soft. 23:40, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Tallpoppy (Alt Q) - For Approval
Hello

Define the shading. 01:23, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I stole and tweaked Velvet's texture.

Okay, Leggy's beating me with a stick, so I'm gonna redo this texture and reupload in a bit.

Re-uploaded. Got rid of the texture since it didn't like me and basically redid it.

Re-uploaded. After some encouragement, I tried to at least do something and brought back what I worked on last night.

Define the shading a bit more around her belly and shoulder 04:03, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front leg closest to us. Wow, this is really good, Snow.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 06:48, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Deerleap (Star) - For Approval
Colorpicked from the elder image. I don't really like the way this turned out but oh well. Eɢʀᴇᴛᴛ 22:56, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the white, and define it on the tail a bit. Woah, this is nice. .o.

I'm changing this heading to for approval, and making you an apprentice as well, since it's obvious you know what you're doing and you have more than a basic grasp of chararts. =P

Re-uploaded.  Eɢʀᴇᴛᴛ 00:10, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

I love the stripes :P Define the facial shading, and define the light on the tail.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 07:28, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Define your light source and I wish my first charart had been this good :o 18:50, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. (Thank you!! <3)  Eɢʀᴇᴛᴛ 22:47, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Her dorsal stripe seems a bit hard-edged. Maybe smudge it a touch? 04:02, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' Eɢʀᴇᴛᴛ 	 17:19, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Fircone (Star) ~ For Approval
Holy crap, I'm happy with how this came out. Skye requested that I did this, but I received permission from both them and Beebs to redo the pattern, as I felt my old one wasn't mottled enough to match the current description. I'll gladly redo the rogue to match this, especially since I have the files! 23:15, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Just gonna fix a small detail with your comment... and as long as you're gonna redo the rogue (which you need to nominate too lmao), then I have no real complaints. Maybe just darken the shading a little bit on the back-area (or haunch whatever it is)

Much perfect, such ginger. Add some depth to the chest shading a teeny bit? 01:23, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Eh I'll nominate it once I get this done. 22:45, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

The white on the tail looks really gray... Lighten that up a bit?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 07:27, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

its in shadow of course its gonna look grey. 11:01, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Tell that to anyone else who's shading on a white cat/ white patches on a cat. If that applied to everyone, then PCA members wouldnt ask them to "lighten the white, it looks gray" so much on other chararts. If that part of the tail is supposed to be white, then he really should lighten it up a bit. Otherwise it just looks like he has a gray patch on his tail.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 19:44, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's just because of how Leggy has her light source. It does look really gray, though... I will give you that.

It's entirely in shadow..there's no way I can lighten it and be consistent, for the light is coming entirely from our left side. The shading on the tail, since it's plumy, engulfs a majority of it, and really only the edges are illuminated, and in this case, since he has white on the underside of the tail, only the tortie top is lit up.

It's one section on the cat, and the other lighter patches, most notably on the chest, the base of the tail, and the face, are clearly white, so one may assume that the giant darker section on the tail is the same hue. Assuming there's a random gray patch on the tail, even with the other white markings, is like assuming that a solid gray cat is two shades of gray because one region on the body appears darker than the other. I've always been against the "lighten the white" comment, as it's really the shading causing the trouble, and if it makes a section appear gray, then you need to define and sharpen it. Your "white" can be any light color, because you don't have to use solid white, as long as your shading is sharp enough and can easily be perceived as shading instead of a new color on the cat. 22:58, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Honestly, I see no point whether the white looks gray or not. As long as the white is white, it's going to be white no matter what color the shading makes it look. Even in real life, shadows on, say, white clothing can appear to be gray. It can't be helped if the shading on the white is gray, because it would seem rather flat otherwise. In my opinion, keep it the way it is, Leggy. I don't mean to sound snippy or rude. I apologize if you take it that way. This isn't even worth arguing for. <span style="">23:32 Sun Jul 13

Cherrytail(Q) - For Approval
i've always loved this pattern. comments? 05:56, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

This is really good :)  The giner patch on her face is supposed to extend to the top of her nose. (Her apprentice and Kittypet images have it) so it'll match her other images. Also, define the facial shading a tad bit.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 07:24, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded thanks Breezeheart! c: 13:29, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Could you try smudging the patches (like on her rump and legs) a little bit more on a lower setting brush? This is really nice, Duck. Probably one of your better chararts.

Define the shading a bit? This is purrtty 19:49, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Her patches seem a bit more yellow then the ones on her other images, maybe make them a tad more orangish? She's gorgous! 04:01, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Nightwhisper (Lo) ~ For Approval
my first loner; changes are here. Comments? 19:48, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the neck, face, and tail a little more, and blur the haunch shading a tiny bit more. 23:34, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Red (SD) (Alt Ro) - For Approval
-Moonwalks away-

Ohhh, so now she gets it. ._. Define the shading on the back leg furthest away from us. This is beautiful. <span style="">20:45 Sun Jul 13

This is for orange, not flame-colored. I don't know, though. I think orange and a dark flame-colored are different, since I always saw that as red...and orange and red aren't the same, really. idk, the list said she needed an alt rogue, so that's why I did it. I didn't add the cite. o.o Same case as Turtle Tail- I'm just making it because the page said she needed one. Re-uploaded.

Add summore depth to your shading- make sure there's different levels of darkness in your shading, as it looks a tad flat right now. To help add shape to it, maybe tint your shading a little more orange or red, as gray mixed with such a saturated shade typically makes it look duller.

It wasn't black. =/ I haven't used black on a ginger that isn't my personal image (because it looks cool), in a long time... Re-uploaded.

Brindleface (Q) ~ For Approval
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Maybe define the face and leg shading? This is really pretty! Eɢʀᴇᴛᴛ 	 22:48, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you~! <span style="">23:03 Sun Jul 13

Define the light on the hindleg farthest from us. Wow hawk; this is amazing :)--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:29, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Can you try to straighten out and smudge the stripes a little more to give them the wispy look that the StarClanner and warrior have? They aren't this curly-looking or bold on the others. 23:32, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks Breeze. <span style="">0:29 Mon Jul 14

Define the facial shading.

Re-uploaded. <span style="">17:59 Tue Jul 15

Smooth out the stripes, and smudge out the tips. I didn't mean like in the direction of fur when I said the above comment, haha. Blur the stripes a little bit too. 18:43, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Oh, hehe... duh. lol <span style="">21:41 Tue Jul 15

Define the shading on her chest and lifted foreleg 04:00, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Stonepelt (Star) ~ For Approval
Here's Stoney! <span style="">23:03 Sun Jul 13

Define the facial and tail shading. I love the stripes :)--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:30, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you. c: <span style="">0:29 Mon Jul 14

Define the scar just a bit? I'm having a rough time seeing it.

Re-uploaded. <span style="">18:02 Tue Jul 15

Define the shading on the visible legs.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 06:46, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Honestly, I think it's fine. I'll change it if someone else agrees. <span style="">17:27 Wed Jul 16

Runningbrook (Star) - For Approval
Since Palebird got declined, I did Runningbrook instead, since it got confirmed that she's in StarClan. Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:58, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Darken/define the shading a tough? <span style="">00:43 Mon Jul 14

Reuploaded. Better? Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:13, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading right of the muzzle a tad? holy crap this is amazing 19:38, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

The pale parts kinda look white..mind darkening them a bit?

Wait, why darken the pale parts. Aren't they supposed to be white? Jayie Unwritten words~ 19:41, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the earpink a tad, to match the other images. I didn't know she got a cite, but now I'm happy. And being happy is good. And good things lead to less death. Brick  19:45, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

No, they're not supposed to be white. Pale parts are allowed on a tabby, yes, but they can't be white. Pale isn't white, and I don't think Breezey used white when she made Runningbrook's images. Jayie, we had this long before you came along, and someone tried to say that pale and white were the same thing, when they're not.

Oh, okay. :) I must've pulled the wrong color off the other chararts. I pulled it off the lightest part of her belly, 'cause I thought the rest was just dark because of the shading, but maybe I pulled it off of too light a pixel. I'll play around with the colors again. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 19:56, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Does that work better? Jayie Unwritten words~ 15:26, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Mosspelt (Q) - For Approval
Here are the changes if they aren't showing up: http://www.ezimba.com/work/140714C/ezimba13931894448400.png Jayie  Unwritten words~ 00:59, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Define and darken the overall shading everywhere but the belly.

Reuploaded. Also realized that I'd forgotten to fill in the ear pink. Jayie Unwritten words~ 15:26, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Define the earpink some more. Also, define the shading and light on all four legs.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 06:45, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Jayie Unwritten words~ 12:42, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Hawkheart (Star) ~ For Approval
Here's Hawkheart from StarClan. I picked the colors from his warrior/medicine cat picture. I'm not very good at mottles, though. :/

Add some more mottles and sharpen them. This is pretty! <span style="">15:57 Mon Jul 14

Re-up ~ I added some more mottles, but how do you sharpen them?

What program do you use? <span style="">17:54 Tue Jul 15

I use Photoshop.

Select your sharpen tool and then run it over the brown and gray parts a few times. <span style="">18:45 Tue Jul 15

Re-up ~ When I used the sharp tool, strange colored pixels appeared so I used a sharpen filter.

The gray patches on his other images are a tad bit lighter than that. Lighten them a little bit.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 06:44, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Jagged Peak (Alt Ro) ~ For Approval
04:16, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on his front left leg (if he's facing us, I think it's his left...the one we can see all of on his front set of legs idk), and his tail. Jagged Peak caused his own misery lmao

Mapleshade (Alt. A) - For Approval
meh… 22:51, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Try blurring the stripes on the ginger parts, to match her other alt images. Brick 06:00, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 06:43, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 15:25, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Poppydawn (Alt. Q) - For Approval
not sure whether or not she'd get a graying muzzle 22:51, July 15, 2014 (UTC)

Im not completely sure; But i think Poppydawn wasnt an elder yet when she was a queen, so shes not supposed to have the gray muzzle... someone correct me if im wrong.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 06:42, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

I dunno, I kinda disagree with the above comment. Being a warrior/queen doesn't mean you have to be young. Being an elder is only a named rank, so I think a queen could still have a graying muzzle. But I may just be incredibly tired and spitting up nonsense. Also, her warrior alt has it, sooo....? Brick 16:40, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

River (Ki) - For Approval
I tried my best ;;-;; Brick  06:35, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Define the front legs and tail shading. Nice charart :)~Breezeheart~ (talk) 06:41, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, thanks! http://i57.tinypic.com/9pp01y.png Brick   16:47, July 16, 2014 (UTC)