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TWEAK/REDO NOMINATIONS ARE CURRENTLY: OPEN CLOSED, BARRING THE NOMINATIONS ALREADY POSTED (see the list below for images to tweak or redo)

=Nominations= If you wish to nominate an image, you link the image (like so - ) underneath the appropriate subheading, and list the reason(s) you wish it to be redone/tweaked. Only senior members of the project can vote, and only three votes are necessary for the vote to pass or fail.

Troutclaw (E) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Troutclaw.elder.png I'd like to tweak the matted head because there's something strange about it. I'd like it because I have the .xcf. o3o 04:24 Sat Feb 2
 * 06:56, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup.

Mallownose (W) - Tweak Nomination
File:Mallownose.warrior.png Old shading is old. More of a preference tweak than anything. His shading kinda irks me, and since he's one of my favorite images I've ever done, I'd like it to be the best it can be. So may I kill his shading pwease? 05:26, February 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. ouo
 * Go for it. c: 06:54, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ferncloud ~ Redo Nomination
File:Ferncloud.star.png (and the rest) Alright, since she's been "mistakenly" described as mottled, and her canon description is "pale gray she-cat with darker flecks", we need to portray her as a flecked cat, not a mottled one. This is a flecked cat. Flecked refers to a type of tabby cat where each hair on the cat's body is striped, as I describe in my portion of the apprentice tutorials. What she is portrayed as is mottled. Mottled is spotted or multicolored. Spottedleaf is mottled. Leopardstar is mottled. Flecked and mottled are not synonymous. I know this won't be a popular redo nomination, but these are the facts as I know them. Her current design can be kept as an alt image, but if we want to follow her canon description, she needs to actually look the part. 20:34, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but isn't it possible that she's both at the same time? Her current design is a lot like that picture given (which is a ticked tabby, flecked is just the appearance of the fur close up), with her stripes on her legs being distinct and her back blended together. It's possible that when they described mottled they could have been talking about varying the color of the blended, ticked part.  21:39, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I really don't think it needs to be redone. If anything just a tweak to make the current flecks a bit smaller and put more of them, but honestly it doesn't need to be redone. I personally think it looks fine right now, but if it ends up needing to be tweaked or redone, I want the kit and warrior, which I still have the files too. 22:26, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also on a bit of a side note, I believe by definition, both those images are mottled. 22:28, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's necessary to have all of her images redone. Mottled and flecked seem very similar in my eyes, and if you want the flecks to be more vibrant, then we can tweak them like Paleh said. For now I just think the propositions are too similar to the original image to have to be redone. 23:23, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * If the images now are considered mottled, I think we could also meet the flecked requirement if we just add a layer of texturing below the mottles. 03:46, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think what we have here is a conflict of understanding. The definitions of mottled, spotted, flecked, and the likes are blurred in the project, even thogh those three words are not completely synonymous. Maybe PCA should create a page defining the more common descriptions? If we're going to have set ways to interpret words that the project as a whole uses, and since obviously otherwise we all have conflicting definitions of these words, some page (seperate from the app tutorial) explaining what these things mean (something we vote on, like the rank definitions we did a while back) would be the most helpful thing we can do. Also, I'd be fine with Ferncloud being tweaked and the descriptions being combined. I mainly presented this nomination to bring attention to this wall we tend to reach when it comes to defining commonly used words in descriptions. 07:24, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * So I'll just hold off from posting her alt queen until something here's decided... I've always thought flecked cats had smaller, more defined, "spots", so to say, and mottled had larger, more blended patches of varying shades of fur color, sort of like Pebblefoot. I believe it could be possible she was both...the mottled as the base and the flecks as the varying color of the pelt, like Whiskey said up above. 15:03, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * In my opinion she can be tweaked, however, I think we should leave this vote up while discussing on the talk page about this 22:00, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Daisytail ~ Redo Nomination
File:Daisytail.queen.png (et al) Pleasedon'tkillme... Alright, I'm signed up to do her StarClan image, but I'm having trouble with it. Her pattern feels really unnatural to me. I think she'd either be a tortie or something of that ilk, or at the very least her patches would be along her spine and not as they are now. I'm personally leaning more toward tortie with specific coloration of light brown and dark ginger. If this passes I'd like to just do the StarClan image, which I'm already supposed to be doing. 02:16, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just a side note, this is what we did with Redwillow. 02:24, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * The images don't quite match, either...but that could be just me. Regardless, I don't think this pattern is natural, and could be redone..
 * Oh goodness I've been wanting to redo this for quite a while. xD But actually though, since I was the OA of that, do you think I could have the queen please? 03:53, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

Dawnbright ~ Redo Nomination
File:Dawnbright.warrior.png / File:Dawnbright.kit.png Hmm... the coloring seems a bit off (seems like they're partially brown or something) and the white isn't white. Both images seem to be entirely covered in shading, and some other little minor quirks that just don't sit well. If this passes, I'd like both. Don't shoot me plz.
 * Could be tweaked if the OA's can be contacted, but otherwise it's best to just redo. 03:47, February 4, 2013 (UTC)

=Approved Tweaks= Once an image is under this heading, it may be reserved on the project main page and crossed out with a and a. The image may only be removed from this list when it is approved and archived.

Senior warriors are to keep track of the number of images on this list, including those that are crossed out. Should the number rise above 50, nominations will close and remain closed until the number of images on the list is down to 40.

Tweaks

 * File:Bluestar.kit.png - Needs to be pale
 * File:Brightsky.queen.png - Whiten white
 * File:Bumblestripe.apprentice.png - Stripe tweak to match a little better
 * File:Clovertail.rogue.png - Tweak colour to be less golden and white less grey
 * File:Clovertail.loner.png - Tweak colour to be less golden and white less grey
 * File:Clovertail.queen.png - Tweak colour to be less golden and white less grey
 * File:Clovertail.queen.alt2.png - Tweak colour to be less golden and white less grey
 * File:Daisy.queen.alt3.png - Could be lightened.
 * File:Echosong.kittypet.png - Smudge stripes like other images (Reserved to Mounty until 4/2/13)
 * File:Leafstorm.deputy.png - Tweak shading to be less blotchy (Reserved to Shelly until 8/2/13)
 * File:Littlecloud.mc.alt.png - Tweak white to be less grey and shading less blotchy
 * File:Mudclaw (WC).warrior.png - Needs to be more mottled to match deputy
 * File:Mudfur.mc.alt.png - shading issues
 * File:Nettlesplash.kittypet.png - re-tweak to match warrior (Reserved to Skye until Feburary 10th)
 * File:Plumwillow.apprentice.png - Tweak to be same shade as other images
 * File:Poolcloud.elder.png - Tweak grey to match other images (Reserved to Skt until 8/2/13)
 * File:Rainfur.rogue.png - Needs to be light grey and have a pale underbelly.
 * File:Ravenpaw.loner.png - Tweak white dash to be smaller and whiter, white tailtip smaller, darken black
 * File:Ravenpaw.apprentice.png - Tweak white dash to be smaller and whiter, white tailtip smaller, darken black

Redos

 * File:Ferncloud.queen.alt2.png - Match the other images more
 * File:Stonepelt.warrior.png - needs to match elder
 * File:Waspwhisker.kittypet.png - Multiple issues, may as well redo