Warriors Wiki talk:World

Timeline Issues
So I've been looking through the timeline for a while, and there are some major things that are incorrect or completely and totally assumed on there. A ridiculous amount. For instance, we don't even know when Bluestar was made leader and we assumed that, we don't know how long she lived between then and when Rusty arrived. YS can't even be added in there because of the errors, and I do believe there are a lot of issues in CP's timeline on there now too. I haven't thoroughly checked much of the main series, but I do know there are some big errors and assumptions in there too.

Some of these errors put on there completely throw off the rest of the timeline an countless ages. Vicky has announced there will be a full timeline of all the books inside the jacket of the new field guide. I personally think we should publicly declare the timeline unusable until that book comes out, or the Erins confirm themselves when some of the events were placed. I've checked for cites on some of these errors and there are absolutely none in the book to indicate when they happened. With them being such major events and being all through the whole timeline with no way of fixing them, I think something needs to be done. Whatever it may be. Feel free to suggest whatever you think would be the best way, but as I said before I think we should just shut it down for now, or put a warning or something.

Suggestions?

Marking it inaccurate would label the wiki inaccurate and we already have issues with that on Vicky's Facebook and Kate's blog. I also wouldn't trust the full timeline in the new field guide because it's probably taken from the "official" website or it's something put together just for making it. I think we'd probably tear this "new timeline" apart with just the amount of amassed errors we could point out. In any case however, we can always just start from scratch thus deleting it, or even moving the coding to a subpage and working on a new timeline. 01:29, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

I honestly think that the page should be deleted. It was never really "finished" and as it is now with so many flaws we'd basically have to start from scratch. With countless time errors in the books it would be harder than it's worth to finish. The full timeline, like 'teldy said, would probably be full of errors. I think it should be deleted. A disclaimer would  be marking the entire wiki as inaccurate and that's not something we want. So yeah... 06:21, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Duck, actually. I've tried to edit that timeline, and I get so confused as to what goes where, and what exactly counts as a cite, and what doesn't. The references are so skewed and jumbled, that nothing truly makes sense. Added to the fact that we can't put an accurate order on the books, due to multiple factors, the timeline should really be deleted, or perhaps moved to a project subpage and say that it's an interpretation based on the wiki's evidence, and it's an ongoing event or something along those lines, perhaps? I'm not sure how you guys want to go about it, but it's plain as day that the current timeline is extremely inaccurate and needs to be fixed, whether it be by deleting the current one, or just throwing the timeline altogether.

Indeed it is a very bad state, but this does not mean the page itself has no place on the wiki. Rather, it is the result of a ton of unchecked edits by new (and even unregistered) members who threw in various information according to their personal opinions and taste. Such things must be fixed or removed, but deleting the entire page instead is a bit overboard.

I suggest reverting to an older and largely verifiable revision, such as this version, and start from there.

To remind editors about the original idea of the timeline: it is to show the succession of major events that took place in different series, roughly indicating how much time passed between two moments. Therefore:
 * It is suggested that only major events should be mentioned, those that strongly influence the main storyline
 * It is suggested that only major character births / deaths / related events should be mentioned
 * Entries should be as short as possible, and I recommend at most 3-4 entries per season

Of course you may delete it if you wish, but in my opinion the wiki has become much too pedantic. Don't fall into the mistake of not seeing the forest for the trees.

Kind regards, 18:10, August 15, 2013 (UTC)

Though I still don't think that deleting the page would be a bad idea, I quite like Helix's ideas of reverting it back and listing only major characters and major events. We'd still have a few problems but I think that it would be easier and would make more sense to do Helix's idea. And if we find out there /are/ too many inconsistencies, we could always have some sort of note that points out the mistakes. 19:43, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

-pokes discussion- So, what are we doing with this guys? 20:57, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Personally I wouldn't delete the page. It does have lots of mistakes and is it indeed difficult to work with, but it could always get better if put a bit more dedication, and turn out to be more useful in the outcome. Redoing could work, but it'd take lots of planning and further stress to do so. Helice's idea looks good to me, so we can start off with a cleaner timeline without redoing it. We should also use the factual information that we have for proof and putting down, perhaps, and definately not the timeline from the official website (and make sure to not cite it from there or something of that sort)... Just my opinion here.

Leopard ~ Silver Nomination
I've had this one done for a bit, but I only just remembered about it. So, comments? 03:20, 11/27/2013

I'm not sure, but could you elaborate and expand a bit on the section "Relations to Clan Cats"?

Still working? 15:46, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Um, pretending I didn't forget about this for a month or so... No, I don't think it can be. That's really the most they affect the Clans, I may be missing something though. Really sorry about forgetting this, I seem to get distracted by life and do that with a lot of nominations and other similar things. x.x 00:16, 12/30/2013

Content Goal
PCA is officially closed until every project reaches their goals. So now we've got to decide what PW's requirements are going to be.

I think it's been said multiple times that, honestly, PW should be in maintenance mode by now. Would it be too far of a stretch that our goal be bringing all articles up to silver? Or maybe bronze at the very least? Thoughts? 3:14 Wed Jan 1 2014

I don't quite know about silver, that would be awesome, but I don't know if the project could do it in its currently semi-active state. However, I do think that our goals should include getting all articles to at least bronze and I think we should also focus on the Events Timeline. We need to decide what's going to be done with the page and if we decide to keep it I think we should at least get it half of the way done, I'd like to get it finished completely. 00:18, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

February '14 FA
Suggestions? Past suggestions include Horseplace and TigerClan (Mythological). 00:38, January 24, 2014 (UTC)

TigerClan looks good let's go with that. (Sorry for the inactivity and the lateness.) 21:38 Wed Jan 29 2014

Yeah, I say TigerClan as well o3o 22:05, January 29, 2014 (UTC)