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Quietkit (Star) ~ For Approval
First charart. I'm not sure if I did this right. Shypaw11 (talk) 16:48, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, so this is a good job for your first time. This might be a whole wall of text, I apologize in advance.

The major thing would be to match the other image. Here, the chest is a more rounded yellow color with orange splotches. On the other image, the chest is an orangey-brown color kind of in a flash-design, so maybe if you changed the shape and either smudged/blurred (not sure which one) the colour, it would look similar. I'm not sure, but I think you're allowed to colour-pick from the other images. Next, the earpink here is a very neon purple colour, and we don't want that. On the kit image, the earpink is a more reddish colour, so even just colour picking and changing that would work. The other image has texture, which would mean taking a 1px or whatever brush and making small lines that look like fur. And then there are small things, such as the nose colour being pink, and the eyes being a darker blue. You could also define the eye depth (which means the colours in the eye go from light to dark). I hope this wasn't too harsh or long ... great job nonetheless :) 17:06, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can you please explain the texture a bit more? Shypaw11 (talk) 17:49, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Texture is basically adding "fur" to the charart, or adding the effect of fur so it seems like it's not a flat image. It's not required, but since the kit image has texture, it is required for the star image. To add texture, take a 1px (usually the smallest brush size you have) and add small lines to mimic the direction of fur. This is usually done on a different layer (usually a layer above the pelt color and stripes but usually not above the shading). I usually use black or a darker hue than the pelt color for texture, but you can always lower the opacity of it later.

Also, I think the cream belly should stretch all the way to the <-- chest fluff, and down to the underside of the chest where it meets the shoulder. And darken/define your shading. ^^ You're doing a great job so far. 18:15, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Winterpaw and Vec! I defined the shading, added texture, and fixed the chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 18:47, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the earpink some, and expand the chest to fill the spot to the <--, since it doesn't quite fill where it's supposed to be. Also, the color of it looks different than the kit, and a bit too orange. Define the shading, as well.

Reuploaded Defined shading, smoothed ear pink, and lightened and expanded chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 21:42, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the texture a bit, as well as the chest. Also, the chest looks too bright and orange. Try colorpicking from the kit. 22:18, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid shading, texture and stripes. How do you colorpick from a different image? Shypaw11 (talk) 22:38, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened Shading Shypaw11 (talk) 23:12, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what program you use, but to answer your previous question: When color picking another image, download it, open it in your art program, and then use the color-picking tool to grab it's color. On my program, it looks like a dropper, but on others, I'm sure there's a guide somewhere that would show which one it is. Try to pick from the lightest point, not under shading or texture, if you can. Then, you'll have that color saved to use on your image.

Reuploaded Thanks Spooky! I use GIMP, and hopefully this is better. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:08, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink, blur/smudge the shading and smooth out the stripes on the arms and tail.😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:30, March 6, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reuploaded Smudged ear pink, smoothed out stripes, and blurred the shading. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:56, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the image. Shypaw11 (talk) 01:32, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are you colorpicking from the image? The colors look a little off, especially the chest. Connect the lines of the texture. Smudge the chest and earpink some more 01:37, 3/06/2017

There is waste beside and on top of the <- ear. Also, maybe smudge/blur the earpink a bit more, and make it less neon, darker. 01:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The eye looks a bit milky? Or is that just me. .3. 02:40, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:04, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the shading some?

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 20:48, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are those lines on the body texture? Because they look a little. . . strange. Also smudge the ears a bit so it looks like ear fur. I also suggest improving the shading, mostly on the chest. Refer to the apprentice tutorials if you need it, they can be lifesavers! BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 2:59 3/7/17

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:28, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Everything needs to be smoothed out more 23:57, 3/07/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 02:38, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading again, please. 18:29, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink out some, and define the texture under the shading

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 01:31, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The nose pink is a bit too neon, it should be more orangey. Same with the earpink, it should be darker and less bright. :) 17:33, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:34, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

I think there's some waste around the ears and the top of the head. 19:07, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:15, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the lines on the face; they're too blocky. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 22:42 3/12/17 UTC

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 22:57, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Everything still looks like it needs to be smoothed out more 17:31, 3/13/2017

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 23:40, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

There's still some waste around the ears. It's either waste or blurred lineart. 23:47, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:55, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink, and define the shading on the tips of the front paws

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 00:11, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smudge the ear pink some more and define the eye depth. Homosneksual (talk) 00:16, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 00:38, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Theres waste around the head, chest, and tail. Also youre getting there! Ill promote you to an apprentice once i get home. Also smudge the chest a tiny bit more, and perhaps smooth out the shading along the flank more 01:41, 3/15/2017

Reuploaded Thanks! Shypaw11 (talk) 03:27, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the shading some more, and define the shading on the chest area. Maybe recede the earpink a little bit, because it looks like it's creeping onto her head :P 13:37, 3/15/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 22:46, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Define the chest shading, and smooth it out everywhere else some

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:58, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

In your light source, the chest would be all in shading :P close! 00:53, 3/16/2017

Reuploaded :P Shypaw11 (talk) 01:10, March 16, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The shading is leaking away from the lineart on the edges of the chest, and also, smooth the open a little :)

Reuploaded :) Shypaw11 (talk) 00:23, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11(talk)

CBA? wonderful job! 13:13, 3/17/2017

Super sorry to break your CBA, but the shading at the top of the --> shoulder and the flank could be smoothed out a bit more, as they seem pretty sharp and there's not much depth there. Also, the shading is leaking away from the lineart on the <-- side of the belly. To match the kit image, the stripes shouldn't go so far down on the front paws, and at least a few would go all the way across on the tail. Additionally, define the facial markers on the sides of the face to match, and the ones on top should be less squiggly and more straight like the kit's.

Where did the pale chest go? It needs pale parts to match. 14:24 Fri Mar 17

Add more texture. And the texture here has much thicker lines than the other image, I think. Smudge the ear pink. 16:49, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

@Sunjaw, the pale chest in under the shading. 19:15, 3/17/2017


 * It could still be lightened though, as it looks the same as the rest of the pelt. And the shading is leaking on it. 19:23, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

The pale isn't the correct color. It needs to match the kit image. This looks like it is just the base desaturated a little bit, and on the kit it is clearly an orange-brown and not that dark and desaturated. Not trying to be rude, but it really doesn't even match. 22:29 Fri Mar 17

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:28, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The flank and --> leg shading actually seemed to get more sharp with the last upload. Can you smooth it out?

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:44, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Can you smooth it out some more? I can tell the difference, but only just a little..

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 17:09, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the shading on the face, < paw, and the tail some more, and define the shading depth. 18:10, 3/18/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 18:21, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Can you smooth out the shading on the ---> front paw, and the flank and tail? In the last upload, it seemed to get sharper in those spots.

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 18:30, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

If she's a tabby, shouldn't she have stripes on her back too? Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I know the chest is in shading, but it really doesn't match the other image imo. Second opinion? 04:27, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Im having a hard time seeing the light anywhere, define that please. Also it matches just fine. As the stripes are only on the legs, face, and tsil on the kit image. 12:17, 3/19/2017

To me, the image looks a tad dark, or not exaxtly the same color. Ignore me if it looks fine lol. Rainbowmistake (talk) 12:24, March 19, 2017 (UTC)chat

Crap, ignore the image brightness thing, because my phone was not bright enough fml lol 12:48, 3/19/2017

No, there really is something going on with the brightness/colors. I've looked on 3 different screens on max brightness and it looks off. A few things. The stripes look like they fade off instead of going all the way down to match the kit on the legs/tail. The chest still looks like it is just a desaturated version of the base, so either your base is off or you still haven't gotten the right color for the chest. Make sure you are color picking from the lightest areas on the kit, as it looks like you have been pulling the colors from either a shaded area or the texture. There also really should be light on the chest no matter which side the light is coming from... 15:41 Sun Mar 19

Reuploaded I use the Burn tool for my shading, so of course it's going to look dark. I lightened it anyway, though. --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:44, March 19, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The pale chest still needs definition; I can't see it and it doesn't match the kit's, either. 01:35, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I colorpicked from the kit so it matches. It's going to look dark because of the shading, though. And sorry if I was rude, Sunjaw. --Shypaw11 (talk) 01:55, March 20, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth the top part of the chest a tad, and add some more shading depth to the chest overall.

The shading on the front right paw and face still look sharp to me, mind smoothing it out? Also, I don't see any shading in his right ear, if there is could you darken it just a tiny bit? ~Patch   feather~   13:44, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste all round it. 13:54, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:39, March 20, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the tail and head shading some more. Also define the texture everywhere, as I can only make it out in a few spots. 01:49, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 02:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

So smol and cute! I can't really make out the stripes on the tail Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 12:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Smooth out the paw shading just a tiny bit more, and give the chest some depth in shading, as right by the base of the chest would be darker shading. <span style="">12:44, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded These blanks are so adorable! --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:17, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

im a little confused? I'm not sure if it's just me, but I cant make out the stripes under the shading on the tail? Do you have it on the same layer or something? <span style="">19:54, 3/21/2017

Yes. --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:56, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Do you have the whole image on the same layer? If so, I highly recommend against it, as it's much easier to have everything on separate layers. As for the tail, do you think you could separate those two layers, as we need to see the stripe pattern under the shading there. <span style="">19:59, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded I don't know how to use a separate layer. And yes, it's all on one layer. I tried to make two, so please tell me how I did! --Shypaw11 (talk) 20:12, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Since you said earlier that you're using GIMP, I think I can help with that. Just right click > Dockable Dialogs > Layers. Then, that'll open the layers menu. From there, you can make layers by either right clicking in the window and selecting 'New Layer' (if using a Mac), or by clicking the page + symbol at the bottom of the window (if using a PC). Then, you can order your layers and change their settings from there. On another note, for the tail, I still can't see the patterning very well.

Reuploaded Thanks Spooky! How's this? --Shypaw11 (talk) 22:22, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Theres waste around the head and tail. Also smooth out the tail shading just a touuuuch more <span style="">23:16, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded :) --Shypaw11 (talk) 23:59, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Im gonna be that guy and say this looks fantastic! CBA? <span style="">13:38, 3/22/2017

Sorry for breaking the CBA but I can't see the stripes on the face (cheek?) that the kit image has. 19:20, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Give a bit more shape to the face shading and smooth out the tail shading a little

Still can't tell about the lighter chest. 23:26, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Layers are magical. Shypaw11 (talk) 22:40, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Hayberry (Queen) - For Evaluation
First image ErmineGlow (talk) 22:44, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Don't align images. Also, define the shading on the stomach. 22:50, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

there shouldn't be eyelashes. 22:53, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

How come the <- ear has a rip in it? 22:54, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The shading looks a little flat on the belly. Shypaw11 (talk) 22:57, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I don't know how that rip happened, but it's fixed. Plus the eyelashes and belly shading.

There is still some black in the ear from where the rip was. Shypaw11 (talk) 23:10, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I blurred and smudged it to remove. Does it look better? ErmineGlow (talk) 23:14, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere <span style="">23:21, 3/06/2017

Reups Darkened shading ErmineGlow (talk)

I think you need to give your shading more shape, as these are supposed to represent 3d images, making it look real, so to speak. Instead of just plopping the shading on the tail and the legs as you appear to be, try only putting the shading around the edges of the legs/tail/etc., like some of the images on here. The apprentice tutorials help as well, and it's good to look at shading placement <span style="">23:28, 3/06/2017

Reups I tried to follow the shading placement image, so hopefully this is better. ErmineGlow (talk)

The lineart is blurred by where the ear tear and eyelashes were. 23:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Look better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:34, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth a bit 00:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:47, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Don't forget your signature. Also, smooth out the shading <span style="">00:46, 3/07/2017

Reups Better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:53, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

A little! Smooth out the shading on her tail, define the light on her legs as well <span style="">00:55, 3/07/2017

Add some shading where her chest is, and darken the shading on her tail just a tiny bit. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic (just realized that i was shipping myself with ashfur XD) 1:11 3/7/17

Reups Tried to smooth out the shading, and also darkened the shading at the tip of the tail. --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:16, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Try to use a darker color for the shading, because it appears that the shading is the same color as the pelt.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 03:50, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, it looks like a square on the flank <span style="">03:54, 3/07/2017

Reups Better looking? ErmineGlow (talk) 03:57, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

That looks more appropriate as the color for the shading. Try and lower the opacity and blur it more to smooth it out.

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 13:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Round out the shading on the flank, as it looks a little blocky the way it is now. Also, define the mottles on the paws, face, and --> side of the tail

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 22:22, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading more everywhere, define the light on the hidden back leg, and switch the shading on the farthest from us front leg to the other side of the leg <span style="">00:11, 3/08/2017

I think the shading is a bit too dark. Lighten the opacity a bit. Also, try to add some eye depth. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 00:19 3/8/17 UTC

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:03, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading a lot <span style="">23:35, 3/08/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:41, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Your shading on the face says the light is coming from the right, coming up a little. But your chest has shading close the lineart. o.O Is this supposed to be there? If not, erase that, because it would contradict the light source. And try to keep the light source consistent throughout the whole cat. Also deepen the eye depth. I think there's some there. . . ? Shine!  Beneath the Starlight

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:30, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth? Broken_Foot Slice Of The Crow's Talon 01:45, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:35, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the flank shading Broken Slice Of The Loved Crow's Talon 06:08, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups ErmineGlow (talk)

There's leaking shading around the very edges or the image, plus you need to smooth out the tail shading a lot more. <span style="">15:28, 3/09/2017

The shading looks square on the belly Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:04, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the mottled pattern on the --> side of the tail -- It looks like there's very little there.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the stomach and legs, and smooth it out on the tail. 00:17, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:35, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

What are you doing for smoothing out the shading? I dont see any differences between any of the revisions for the tail shading. To "smooth out" shading, use the blur tool on the edge of the shading, not the shading itself. <span style="">00:57, 3/11/2017

Reups Does it look better now? --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:18, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth it more please, and there's still shading leaking around the edges of the image. Define the shading on the legs minus the one hidden under the belly, define the light on the leg under the belly, the lineart is blurry by the < earpink (im assuming it's the eyebrow whisker), and there's what appears to be a white-ish color on the edge of the earpink on the forehead that shouldn't be there. Also, define the eye depth. <span style="">19:49, 3/12/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 20:47, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Shading'a leaking all along the tail. 21:02, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:43, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

You still need to add the light on the hidden back leg under the belly. Switch the shading on the front leg closest to us to the other side of the leg please. Shading is leaking all along the belly and head. <span style="">17:35, 3/13/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 18:39, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten and smooth the belly shading, you still have not added light to the leg under the belly, and define the light on the < front leg <span style="">18:46, 3/13/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 19:08, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Too much light on the leg under the belly, define the shading there. Still define the light on the < front leg <span style="">14:16, 3/14/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 17:43, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the belly shading <span style="">01:42, 3/15/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 14:54, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Define the darker mottles/parts on the <-- side of the tail

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 23:42, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like in some spots on the tail the shading is pixelated? like fuzzy static. <span style="">00:54, 3/16/2017

I added some mottles under the tail shading. Do you think it could be that? --ErmineGlow (talk) 15:41, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Idk it looks a lot different than your other ones, id say match the others or get rid of it. <span style="">15:43, 3/16/2017

Reups Hopefully the static is gone now. --ErmineGlow (talk) 17:11, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth and the darker mottles on the <-- side of the tail and the belly. Also, the <-- ear lineart is slightly blurred, I do believe.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:18, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I believe that on the <-- side of the belly, the line art is smudged near the top 08:08, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I can't find any smudged line art. --ErmineGlow (talk) 14:46, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

My mistake. Smooth out the shading a teeny weensy bit on the tail 19:27, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 19:30, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading, and also, even out the patterning on the <-- side of the tail. It kinda looks like a white-ish streak on my screen? Idek.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:57, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the shading on the tail? --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:47, March 19, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

It wouldn't hurt to also smooth it out on the stomach. 01:32, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 12:34, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

The shading on the tail is sharp, blend it in a bit? ~Patch   feather~   13:38, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:03, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth, and the tail shading still looks a bit odd. You mind smoothing it out more and giving it more shape? <span style="">01:48, 3/21/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Reups again --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:11, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading again, and define the eye depth

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 12:31, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading everywhere but the head, and lighten it some. Are you using layers? I can't really tell the difference between uploads. <span style="">20:51, 3/23/2017

Hopekit (Star) - For Approval
This was declined last time because Bluebellkit was still going through CBA when I first posted it :P Hopefully it's okay to post now. -- Sh ri ke st ep!  15:54, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

This needs a reservation on the chart^^ Also, all cream cats need stripes.

Hopekit should've lived to be honest. She would have been a cute warrior :3 Mind smoothing out the shading? Lookin good! Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 17:06, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Is there color on the nose? Also, SnowedLighting is correct. All ginger, yellow, cream, etc. are supposed to have stripes. I dunno why. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 18:20 3/18/17 (UTC)

There is colour on the nose. Also, that wasn't SnowedLightning. :P And please don't repeat comments, 18:22, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, what that wasn't me. If they're technically in the ginger family (like an orange-ish color, yellow, and cream), they get stripes.

Sorry. I'm one to elaborate. Also, I think my brain was a bit muddled. Probably darken up the nose. Either my computer settings are to blame, or I'm just blind.

Alrighty!!! I'll get to all this when I get home, I'm not at my computer rn XP -- Sh ri ke st ep!  02:44, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

reuploaded! *sniffs* Baby's first tabby -- Sh ri ke st ep!  17:02, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

reuploaded again! Got rid of waste on the tail :P -- Sh ri ke st ep!  17:03, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

reuploaded again 2: electric boogaloo And everywhere else... -- Sh ri ke st ep!  17:04, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth some?

reuploaded! Might lighten it later... --''' Sh ri ke st ep! 18:45, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail? <span style="">14:04, 3/20/2017

Can you darken the shading a wee bit? Its just looking a bit too light Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 16:33, March 20, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

You need to reserve this on the table, or this will be declined. <span style="">21:55, 3/20/2017


 * Nevermind, I didn't see it. You can only have one name on there sweetie, so you know for next time. <span style="">21:57, 3/20/2017

reuploaded! Sorry for the wait! --''' Sh ri ke st ep! 23:23, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail a bit? Also don't forget your signature! :P <span style="">01:54, 3/21/2017

reuploaded! That's the first time I've forgotten! :O --''' Sh ri ke st ep! 23:23, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth a little bit. 14:03, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front paw farthest from us a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 17:08, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Chat

reuploaded! --''' Sh ri ke st ep! 22:12, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the paws, chest, and face

Define the light on the tail more. <span style="">20:51, 3/23/2017

reuploaded! Don't really know what I did, but no matter what I couldn't get it to look right ;0; --''' Sh ri ke st ep! 23:44, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Leafpaw (VS) ~ For Evaluation


Srry if this is bad but plz don't insult me -Silvershine

Please don't align your images. This needs to match the kit. This also need to be named Leafpaw (VS).apprentice.png --Shypaw11 (talk) 02:27, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

There is color leaking onto and outside the lineart, also the lineart is blurry. 02:32, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Renamed I renamed this for you to be File:Leafpaw (VS).apprentice.png. Please continue to upload under this new name, and also, take care to not re-upload under pixel blanks in the future.

(Sorry for commenting twice and I'm not sure if I'm allowed to) This needs to be long-haired and smudge the ear pink. The ear pink is also really bright. Shypaw11 (talk) 02:38, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

I added the link to Leafpaw. You need a link to all your characters. 2:41 3/21/17 UTC

That looks like my dog drew it. --Jewelpaw (talk) 02:45, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Jewelpaw, please don't insult others artwork. Anyways, smudge the black dots. ErmineGlow (talk) 02:49, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

The cat looks like he has chicken pox. CURE THE POX. Also, make the dots more realistic with your arty skills if you have sum?any? and make the ears an nose blend in that is all --Jewelpaw (talk) 02:58, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for double comment, but please add shading. ErmineGlow (talk) 02:59, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Again, sorry for double comment, but there is a black dot on the tail that is a bit outside the lineart. ErmineGlow (talk) 04:18, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Jewelpaw, don't be that one cat. This needs to match her kit image, and blur the black spots, smudge the ear pink, add shading, and remove some of the black leaking from the lineart. What program are you using for this? If you're using MS Paint, I recommend GIMP! It's free of charge and there's no viruses Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 04:27, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Broken, once again, please don't repeat comments. 04:32, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Refer to the tutorials, they will help. :)

This is a little too small for a normal apprentice image. Did you resize it? If so, please resize it back to its normal size. Also, this should be 'For Evaluation' since it's your first image. <span style="">12:41, 3/21/2017

Duststar (L) - CBA
21:12, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Are the darker lines supposed to be stripes? ErmineGlow (talk) 21:15, March 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Texture. I've used the same brush on a bunch of other chararts in the past 21:16, March 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay ErmineGlow (talk) 21:22, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the haunch shading and the shading on the legs and the line by the chest connected for the shoulder? <span style="">23:12, 3/21/2017

Maybe define the ear pink?

Re-uploaded 02:05, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth some 21:59, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

and blur (i assume that's what you did) it a bit.

Re-uploaded 19:23, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? <span style="">20:52, 3/23/2017

Willownose (Q) - CBA
Eh. 00:48, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Nice Ivybreeze! Maybe define shading on hind --> leg? Ignore me if there shouldn't be any. 01:36 3/22/17 UTC

Re-uploaded. It actually should be mostly shaded, I just forgot to add it there on one of my shading layers. 02:01, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Can you add some shading here, as the belly probably blocks the light. Lovely! <3

Re-uploaded. 13:12, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? <span style="">14:43, 3/23/2017

Sorry, but there's an uncolored pixel in the tail by the fifth stripe! --''' Sh ri ke st ep! 23:31, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. There aren't any uncolored spots as far as I can see, but I think I knew what you were talking about. That was just where the base color was showing, but I covered it with a stripe anyway. 23:44, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Re-CBA? <span style="">23:53, 3/23/2017

Rainstorm (A) ~ For Approval
i apologize for inactivity i have been consumed by the homework demons 02:23, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Looking good! Define the shading on the tummy? 02:32, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the eyes a bit (to match the colour better and to fit "bright") and smoothen out the haunch shading a bit. Hi cinder :) 02:39, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading/ shading depth on the chest a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 13:04, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Rainbow

Cloudmist (K) ~ CBA
I'll do the ones no one cares about

Define the ear pink in the ---> ear? 15:09, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the ear pink on both the ears actually? Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 18:51, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Re-uploaded

CBA? <span style="">20:52, 3/23/2017

Beechpaw (SC) (A) ~ CBA


Define the scar on the muzzle and the nosepink? Very pretty! ^^ 15:12, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading a little bit? 15:17, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Reuploaded tweaking something that bugged me

CBA? <span style="">20:52, 3/23/2017

Thrushwing (W) ~ CBA
this was....extremely annoying to shade 15:24, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Define the head shading a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 16:56, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Rainbow

reuploaded 05:46, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? <span style="">20:53, 3/23/2017

Swallowflight (Lo) ~ For Approval
First loner. Shading is kind of tricky. 19:13 March 22, 2017 (UTC)

I know lol. Can you define the shading a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 20:59, March 22, 2017 (UTC)chat

Reupload 16:34, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the paws/legs? <span style="">20:54, 3/23/2017

Reupload 20:59, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Add a tad more shading behind the shoulder, kinda on/around that one bump in the lineart. There'd be a little more, I believe, when using this source since the light's coming from <--

Reupload 03:41, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Brightwhisker (Star) - For Approval
Someday I'll end up doing a charart that's not a StarClan cat, but today is not that day. 22:09, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Not bad! Smooth out the shading on the flank,  define it a bit on the head, and smooth it out on the ---> paw Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:37, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

reups 22:54, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

The shading on the face and chest looks..almost blotchy? Is that the word for it? It looks really different compared to the other shading Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:57, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

reups I think I didn't smudge it enough the first time, I blurred it some so hopefully it looks better. 23:21, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

reups fixed some stuff that bothered me 23:26, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit on the tail and left leg, and smooth it out on right leg and the chest. 00:28, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

reups 00:47, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

I think the shading's leaking a bit at the bottom of the chest. 13:20, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

no leaks here, s'all clear. 20:15, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

No, I can see it on my screen at least. The shading doesn't quite go down quite all the way to the lineart at the bottom of the chest like it should. 20:24, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

I can see it as well. It's in this area, if that helps any. There's a small patch of white that looks lighter than the rest, but given the source you're using, it shouldn't be that bright.

reups 21:13, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Please tell me if it's my screen, but the earpink doesn't seem to quite match the other images. Also, smooth the flank shading, define the shading depth on the --> paw, and add a little more shading on the bend of the elbow on the <-- leg.

Duskpaw (HJ) (K) ~ For Approval
First Image. Hope you like it. Taco Cat is Awesome (talk) 22:48, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

This is really good for your first image! My first was horrendous lol. Anyways, define the shafing and smudge the ear pink. 22:52, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Danny! Taco Cat is Awesome (talk) 22:59, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

I think darkening the shading on the fur on --> side of the flank doesn't count as the entire shading on the body if that makes sense. You need a light source, and to add shading on wherever the the light source doesn't reach. You can check http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/Warriors_Wiki:Charart/Apprentice_Tutorials For Help! Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 23:22, March 22, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Define the eye depth a little, if possible. I also think there is actually shading on the tail, legs, and face that does seem to follow a light source, but it's not very visible - it should be expanded and defined. 00:23, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

mini Firestar?? define the shading on the face (did i repeat anyone's comments? sorry if i did).

Isn't this supposed to be "For Evaluation" Instead of "For Approval?" Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 02:08, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Yes, it is supposed to be "For Evaluation". I renamed it. 02:30 3/23/17 (UTC)

Add/define the texture, add paler markings around the eyes, and make the tailtip darker (if it isn't already; I can't really tell). Would you like the file for his apprenice image; it would probably help with matching a bit. Nice job for a first. 02:36, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

It can stay at "For Approval", honestly. Also, only leads can change headings, guys. That's literally one of our jobs.

Whitewater (Star) - For Approval
Yay i love her 01:26, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the belly. ErmineGlow (talk) 01:28, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Do you mean the flank on the <--- side, which I can see fine, or the lower chest towards the > side of the image? 01:31, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Flank ErmineGlow (talk) 01:34, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

imo, the flank is fine. but the chest might need some darkening. also, smudge the ear pink. 01:36, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

sorry for double comment, but the pupil placement in the <--- eye makes her eyes look wonky (is cross-eyed the right word here?). but that may be just me. any second opinions? 01:38, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

I'll darken the chest shading and smudge the earpink soon, but the pupil looks fine to me and she is supposed to be blind, so... 01:51, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

I don't think being blind means her pupil can be so wonky Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 02:02, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

I'd still like confirmation. 02:07, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

I think you should darken the shading a little bit overall and see how it turns out, and smudge the ear pink more! luv this <3

Reuploaded 02:47, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

one of the eyes should be more whiteish to match the other image(s). 05:36, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

​Reup 21:47, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the chest? mainly near the bottom, since there would be some there.

Reuploaded 02:56, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Sweetbriar (Star) ~ For Approval
<span style="">13:25, 3/23/2017

Lovely, O.o. Define the tail shading a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 13:49, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Chat

Reuploaded <span style="">13:53, 3/23/2017

Maybe add more shading to the body? ^^

Perhaps smooth the shading on the <-- paw just slightly

Reuploaded <span style="">16:18, 3/23/2017

I think the stripes looked a bit too smudged out. Or maybe not. she looks fab! much better than my attempt lol. 22:52 3/23/17 UTC


 * They look fine imo. 22:55, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Rustlepaw (A) ~ For Approval
I almost feel bad for Onestar. Almost. 19:13, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Dull him down, as he looks rather neon. 19:14, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Reups 19:22, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

He looks more a lot more ginger than golden.

Add more shading to the shoulder and behind the elbow on the belly. <span style="">20:55, 3/23/2017

Reups 18:35, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Grassheart (Ro) - For Approval
How is this simple pattern so weird to match. <span style="">20:07 Thu Mar 23

It looks like the queen has a dorsal stripe on the tail? I honestly can't tell, and the view on the apprentice doesn't show much. also "because tabbies suck" is the answer to your question.

It looks like texture? I'm not sure but the rogue would have the same view as the apprentice I think. Ivybreeze? Was it a stripe or part of the texture? lol <span style="">20:14 Thu Mar 23

You're right, it is part of my (failed attempt to do) texture, it's not a dorsal stripe. 20:16, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, whoops, my bad. Uh, sorry about that then. Would smoothing out the belly shading a bit be out of the question?

Reuploaded Also darkened the tint so it didn't look so outlandishly bright compared to the others in the set. <span style="">20:26 Thu Mar 23

Could you define the shading depth a touch? <span style="">20:55, 3/23/2017

Reuploaded <span style="">21:05 Thu Mar 23

Maybe blur the stripes just a tiny bit? I know they should be sharp, but just a bit would make them resemble more. 02:58, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Frosty (Lo) ~ For Approval
Okay, so I didn't add an alingment I think, but when I'm editing it, the picture looks like it's to the left ;-; Also, the shading is ugly and will probably change it. Along with the texture. Can someone tell me how to not add an alingment when uploading a photo? Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 20:51, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

You have to go to source mode, and delete the "right" in the image. 20:54, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, it's too neon <span style="">20:55, 3/23/2017

Actually, if they lighten the shading, they wouldn't need to change the tint. We've had people use around this color before, so I'd say it's fine.

No, I know that shading with purple is a thing, but this does need to be lightened. 21:11, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

yes it should be ligtened, and maybe erase some off the body possibly. 21:13, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

I should clarify (I'm tired lol), I meant that the shading was too neon as is, and it needs to be lightened. As per the lightening, define the shading depth as well, please <span style="">21:14, 3/23/2017

Re-uploaded! I'm so bad at shading Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 21:53, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The shading is still too neon. If you want to use purple shading, maybe try 240936, which is the color I used for the shading on Featherstar. 22:06, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

The shading's still too neon. The texture looks great, though. And then there's a user edit conflict. Sorry for repeating comments. I didn't know Bluestar would edit at the same time. :P 22:06 3/23/17 UTC

Re-uploaded! I'll fix the shoulder shading later Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:26, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The shading was fine as it was before, now it's too dark :/ Neon-ish shading is perfectly acceptable, as long as it's dulled down. <span style="">22:34, 3/23/2017

Re-uploaded! Oof Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:43, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Dull it down a little bit more. Otherwise it looks fine. 22:49 3/23/17 UTC

Re-uploaded! How do I get my name out of the end of my timestamp? After it says UTC, it lists my name also, and I've been trying to figure out how to make my timestamp smaller and remove my name at the end of UTC Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:58, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Switch the shading on the front leg closest to us so that the shading that's all on > side of the leg is now on < side of the leg, as it is now is contradicting the light source. <span style="">23:00, 3/23/2017

Re-uploaded! I'm so hyped for Shattered Sky now that I read a sample online Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 23:14, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

You think you could maybe lighten the shading a bit more? 23:32, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 23:44, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

desaturate the shading.

What does that mean Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 00:10, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

I think it basically means get rid of most of the neon. 00:25 3/24/17 UTC

I think it looks fine. Although I may just darken it. Second opinion on the neon? Twisted Slice Of The Crow's Talon 00:48, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Like I said, we have many images that are like this. This shading tint is fine. <span style="">00:50, 3/24/2017

Define the light on the <-- side of tail, shoulder, and face. Also, while the tint is fine, I agree with Fox on that it looks pretty over-saturated. Try and add a bit more depth to the shading. I know there's depth already present, but just a bit more would help it seem less flat and less saturated while still keeping the tint.

I think the tint should be darkened. I suggest you to try the brightness/contrast setting and play around with it^^

Re-uploaded! Whenever I reupload it, I'll just say oof Twisted Slice Of The Crow's Talon 03:47, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

shading needs to be lightened drastically. 06:39, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Oof Twisted Slice Of The Crow's Talon 17:21, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

It wouldn't hurt to lighten the shading a bit more. 17:52, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Oof. I think if I lighten it anymore, I'll be told to define it Twisted Slice Of The Crow's Talon 18:03, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

No, you won't. It could stand to be lightened a bit.

Oof Twisted Slice Of The Crow's Talon 18:31, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Define the shading depth, the light on the legs, shoulder, chest, and head please :3 <span style="">18:33, 3/24/2017

Oof! Okay, so I don't exactly know what "define the shading depth" means, but I tried Twisted Slice Of The Crow's Talon 19:05, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Wishkit (Star) ~ For Approval
Here's Wishkit. Second image, first starclan kit image, second tabby. On a roll here! 21:52 3/23/17 (UTC)

Define the shading on her side and tail, and smooth out the shading on the face and chest. 21:54, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Define the earpink and nose pink 21:59, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Which side? The flank that's visible or the side that's facing away from us? (I'm guessing it's the flank that's visible) 22:01 3/23/17 (UTC)

define the eye depth 22:05, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Technically it's still your first image, since Sweetbriar was declined due to the one month limit :P But define the earpink, I cannot see it. <span style="">22:32, 3/23/2017

re-up I think the eye depth's fine, but i may need second opinion. 22:33 3/23/17 UTC

Define the eye depth, add more shading to the flank, leg, and tail please, and get rid of some of the head shading. Smooth out the shading more, and you still need to define the earpink <span style="">22:35, 3/23/2017

re-up Does changing the eye position help? I tried to define the eye depth but that's kind of all I could do. 00:01 3/24/17 UTC

Her paws look more gray than white. --Shypaw11 (talk) 00:07, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

That's because of the shading. I can't really do much about it, since the base is already pure white and the shading's supposed to be there. I suppose I could take away some of the shading, but other than that, i have no idea what to do. 00:24 3/24/17 UTC

You could take away some of the shading. 00:34, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Brighten the white by putting an overlay layer on top of pure white and then dimming the opacity <span style="">00:54, 3/24/2017

re-up Only the --> paw can be lightened. The other one has to stay in shadow. Sorry, but I can't contradict my light source. 1:33 3/24/17 UTC

You would not be contradicting your light source. If the light is coming like this : --> Then there should be some light on the <-- paw. 01:35, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth, and also, this looks more yellow than it does pale ginger imo.

What do mean like this: -->? The light is coming fully on Wishkit, therefore her paw has to stay in shadow. Yes, Spooky, I agree that it now looks yellow. Whoops. 2:25 3/24/17 UTC

re-up 05:32 3/24/17 UTC

If the light is shining fully on Wishkit, like top down, then she would have light on her other paw, less shading on her head and tail, and the strand of shading on her flank up at the top would not be there. But still, define the eye depth, we cannot see it. <span style="">18:46, 3/24/2017

Brandy (Ki) ~ For Approval
*raises hand* I use a random generator to pick my cats. 19:45, March 24, 2017 (UTC)