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Berryheart (K) ~ For Approval
wee~ Probably won't be able to upload on weekdays but I /can/ update on Fridays. <: 14:23, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

It needs a white neck like the other images. And define the light on the legs, and tail Storm  &#9835;  14:25, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

oh god it's disgusting ;;  14:33, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs, tail, and the chest please you forgot those Storm  &#9835;  14:41, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

it's still horrible  14:57, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

There's literally still no light on the legs/paws. get rid of some shadow Storm  &#9835;  15:02, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Shrink the white on her front paws, please. They only look that way on the queen because of how long her legs are.

'''Better? ''' 15:26, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define and add depth to the shading? The image is looking kind of flat. Good job on this though! 15:35, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Ice, when you say "The image looks flat", you mean define the shading everywhere, right? Because I think that needs a bit more work upon touching :) Good job with smudging. Very nice. 18:36, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

I hate shading ;_;  19:11, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

You are still forgetting to put light on the legs. Define the light on the chest and tail and define the shading on the side of her face... This charart is literally all shading. Define the light everywhere. Storm &#9835;  22:37, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

The white is looking a little grey on my screen… maybe lighten it? Idk whether it is only my phone 06:56, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

It isn't just your screen, it's really gray, add some highlights? Are you using pure white? 11:48, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

I used pure white on her queen, which is the first image in the set, so you'll need to do the same.

She did use pure white, but it's literally all shading. Adding to my comment earlier, get rid of some shadow. Storm &#9835;  23:02, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

Latte, check this out 12:00, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I'll remove shading, but I'll do it on Friday. Sorry. 21:59, May 19, 2015 (UTC)

well I got some time today so  22:34, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the paws and legs... Chest, head, and tail... Storm &#9835;  04:28, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

imo it's fine, but if it's not, idek how to define it .-. 21:25, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

No. I agree with Storm. Erase some of the shading on the chest/add highlights. 22:31, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Please don't start the "its fine" thing. .-. Storm  &#9835;  01:04, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Storm, chill. Leave the enforcing to the leads, please. Vibrant, we're not starting the "it's fine" thing. These images are put on the approval page to be commented on before they go on the character's page. These comments are said for a reason, and no one's images are perfect. Not mine, not any one of the other leads', not yours, not a random warrior, kit, apprentice, whatever rank. That's why this page is here. Your white looks extremely gray, and in order to match the queen image, which I made, you're going to need to brighten up the white, as it looks like her image is black-and-gray, instead of black-and-white.

Soften the transition between the white on the neck and black; it's a bit hard-edged 02:28, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

'''Better? '''Skye, can you send me an .xcf or .psd or whatever so I can match the colors. (no idc about my email or shiz unless it's spam) Send it to here: mintiimonster.blogclan@gmail.com 13:49, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

There's still no light on the legs. Storm &#9835;  13:51, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Fixed  14:44, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I will gladly send you a file! She's on her way right now. =)

Define the shading/light on the legs. Storm &#9835;  22:45, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading between the left leg and her side and add/define the shading between her legs and on her back paw 01:02, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Still working? 23:41, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, sorry for the lack of uploads. I'll upload a new version later. 21:25, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

quicker than expected 21:32, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

...Define the shading/light on the legs......... Storm &#9835;  21:51, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

This is getting stupid ;-; 13:27, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

What's getting stupid? Being asked to do something on your image? This process is the whole point of the approval page, and if you're not okay with that, then I don't know what to tell you.

^ and please erase some of the shading on the legs and neck. I can provide a redline for you if you want 13:40, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

'''I'm saying that my art is stupid. '''The shading was still wonky, and I can't change it much. Sorry if I confused/hurt anyone here, I clarified. 21:53, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Your art isn't stupid. You're trying, and that counts. It's all part of the process. Anyways, define the shading a tad? Maybe add some highlights to make the shading stand out more? 13:28 Mon Jun 1

Define the light everywhere please Storm  &#9835;  19:16, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 14:22, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light source. Brighten the white a lot. Look at some other examples of black and white kits. Storm &#9835;  14:31, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Storm, I think you'd actually need to explain to her, because you are just repeating the comments without actually telling her how. I suggest you to either erase some of the shading on the chest and legs. Otherwise, create a new layer, set the mode to overlay and use white to color in the parts where there is light hitting, afterwards you blur or smudge it. 11:38, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Wikia won't let me upload, click for link. I agree with Fox. Please tell me in detailed form. 14:58, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the white tail-tip, maybe just increase the opacity or add more shading, and erase some of the shading on the front legs because it's looking very gray. Or add a new layer with white instead of black like Fox suggested above and blurring/smudging the same way as your shading. If you don't understand, let me know and I'll try explain in greater detail 22:01, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can you also try to define the shading/light on the back paw? Try what Fox and Snow suggested. 12:00, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Still working?

Yes. 22:17, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Define your light source please. Add a different layer with a white highlight blur it 'very slightly' and lower the opacity a good few ticks. Storm &#9835;  12:37, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail and legs, and lighten the shading on her ---> flank. Right now, that side looks almost pitch black. Perhaps lower the opacity of it a tad?-- 16:51, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but this has been up for a month. As per PCA's guidelines, I have to decline this. An image can only be on the approval page for one month. Branching off of that, you are also not allowed to try and reserve this image for two weeks, as to let others take a chance on the image should they want to.

Can I take over? 19:04, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Not on the same tab if it's been declined. You'll probably have to wait until this one is archived. I'd reserve it now if I were you lol Storm  &#9835;  19:10, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Uh, no? You don't have to wait for a declined image to be archived - just take it. 19:15, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups I feel like i've ruined it. 19:38, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Add a little bit more white on the tail tip, and define the light on the legs and head some. It looks great bramble! Storm &#9835;  19:41, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

I think her eyes would be dark blue like the other images, though I may be wrong. Also, please add white ears, as that's what's depicted in the another images. User: Dewdrops56/talk 19:54, June, 18, 2015

~'3'~ I'll get the shading on the tail, I just realized that 20:00, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

There 20:05, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

There's a small dot below the right side of her mouth. Songheart (talk) 20:18, June 18, 2015 (UTC)Songheart

Boom 20:21, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on her back paw? Storm &#9835;  20:37, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hootwhisker (W) ~ For Evaluation
Ok I edited it. Looks MUCH better than the old one, the shading is much better,i added a pupil, i erased the waste, and i blurred the ears. PoppyShine (talk) 22:54, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Hey, it's gotta match Hootwhisker's apprentice if I recall correctly..-- Nachtide  The  Wikian   Squad 07:04, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

You misnamed it, it should be named Hootwhisker.warrior.png. Other than that, match his apprentice image as Nachtide said, smooth out the shading, clear the waste, blur the earpink and define light on the legs. 07:35, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Don't align your images. It messes up the page. There is also texture to match. Define and darken your shading. This should also be titled 'For Evaluation' instead of 'For Approval' since its your first image. Storm &#9835;  11:24, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

He also doesnt appear to have a pupil... Define eye depth as well Storm  &#9835;  12:53, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, since it looks like the redo nomination for the apprentice is going to pass, I'm not adding texture, so that's fine. But isn't this a bit smaller than the usual warrior blank? 14:39, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

It has the right size to me, but the lineart is covered on some parts. 15:00, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

It does seem to be covered in some places -are your other layers under the lineart? Also, there seems to be a random black dot between the ears. Can you either blur it if it's shading, or get rid of it? 20:23, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

I just realized "the random black dot" is a disconnected part of the lineart, so don't get rid of it. Can you expose the lineart though, like I said above? 20:22, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Don't align your images .-. He still needs a pupil. Blur the earpink a bit more as well as the shading Storm  &#9835;  01:08, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

How am i aligning them, it looks normal to me, the pupil and shading and earpink i get. PoppyShine (talk) 01:37, May 23, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

When you post an image it should be File:Example.warrior.png what you are doing is File:Example.warrior.png|left which messes up the structure of the page. Storm &#9835;  01:40, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

The lineart seems to be covered still. Are you using layers? If so, make sure the lineart is above the other layers. If not, I highly suggest that you do - it would be a lot easier. Other than that, define the eye depth, I can't see any. 12:15, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

It still has a lot of waste around the image. Storm &#9835;  21:42, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Say you reuploaded it everything you reupload :P 00:57, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

There's waste above the ear. Also, I'm having trouble seeing the shading, perhaps define it a bit? My phone's real crappy, so again  it might be just my screen  10:53, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

I redid the apprentice - the base colour is 424242, and that's not texture - it's just how I did the shading. If you want to make similar shading, Poppy, I used a 1px brush and used fairly large circular smudging movements. Of course you don't have to if you don't want to, I believe. 14:40, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Snowsplash, I'm having trouble seeing shading as well. Darken and define it please. Also I still don't see a pupil in his eye. Define the depth of the eye as well. Storm &#9835;  22:50, May 25, 2015 (UTC)

Define/add shading to his right/our left ear and tail. And Snowsplash, I see the waste too, just above the left ear 03:25, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Add pupils, you can see some of mine for reference. 03:32, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

xD, since my computer screen was soooooo messy at that time, I thought the waste was just from my computer screen. PoppyShine (talk) 18:12, May 26, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Define Shading 23:59, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Move the earpink up a bit? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 01:57, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

I still see waste above the ear. Also please stop aligning your images. Storm &#9835;  02:35, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Move the earpink slightly upwards, define shading on the tail perhaps^^ 13:10, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

There's a bit of waste in front of the back paw closest to us. Storm &#9835;  16:32, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

There's also waste in front of the chest 21:39, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Poppy, you have to say that you reuploaded it when you edit the charart at the bottom of the comments. And please stop aligning your image. It messes up the structure of the page. If you need help, just ask me on my talk page. Also theres still waste in front of the back paw I mentioned earlier. Storm &#9835;  01:08, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I edited it and cleared the waste. I always name the charact Hootwhisker.warrior, how is this happening? PoppyShine (talk) 01:31, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

You keep adding "thumb|left" onto the end of your file. If you go into source code editing instead of just visual editor, then you should be able to see it. When you upload a picture, just upload it regularly. It should say just File:Example.warrior.png. You're putting File:Example.warrior.png|thumb|left which messes up the page. As for the image, define the light on the back paw closest to us. Storm &#9835;  01:45, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

How do you define the light? PoppyShine (talk) 02:09, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Erase some of the shading, since the apprentice image that you have to match doesn't have highlights. Oh speaking of which, I think you need to match the texture/shading style that the apprentice image shows as well. Storm &#9835;  02:16, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

How can i do that? I use Pixlr..... PoppyShine (talk) 04:14, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Storm, there is no need to match the shading style. Also, Sorrel said that the "texture" was the smudged shading. As for this image, please define the light source. I suggest using GIMP instead of Pixlr, as it's waaaaaay better. 11:24, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Well..... I honestly dont want to use GIMP because it wont work on my computer. PoppyShine (talk) 14:57, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Try Paint Tool SAI Storm  &#9835;  17:12, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Ok so where should i define the light source?Leg?Paw?Haunches?Ears?Head?Muzzle?Back?Tail?Chest? PoppyShine (talk) 22:54, May 29, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

The whole image please Storm  &#9835;  00:11, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I edited it and defined the shading, hopefully this is enough. PoppyShine (talk) 23:11, June 1, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Oops wrong image, here it is. I added some little line texture thingies. PoppyShine (talk) 01:03, June 2, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Could you possibly define the shading on the neck, and what are these very light brown lines I see throughout the whole flank? Storm &#9835;  19:17, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Just asking, is there supposed to be texture? I thought Sorrel removed it when she redid the apprentice 22:42, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

She did, you're right. So please remove the texture. Storm &#9835;  22:51, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Ok. PoppyShine (talk) 23:39, June 4, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Here. PoppyShine (talk) 23:56, June 4, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Poppy please dont align your image. I've told you how to not align them two times. As for the image itself, please define the light on the legs, head, and tail. Also I see that you seem to be just adding block shading around the edges of the image. Please look at the Apprentice Tutorials to get a better view on how to shade the warrior image. Storm &#9835;  00:09, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a bit more. 00:32, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Alright I reuploaded it. PoppyShine (talk) 02:16, June 6, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Did you check the apprentice tutorials I linked? If not, I strongly recommend it as the shading does appear to be the same as last time. Storm &#9835;  13:17, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, and you can also look at other examples of warrior images for your shading placement :) The shading still could be blurred a little more, take a hard edged blur tool and blur the edges of the shading real good. 01:56, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Also, blur your earpink just a little more. 01:00, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Still working?

Yes, I am really busy, i might get it done by Sunday.PoppyShine (talk) 00:05, June 12, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

What 'are you still working' means poppy is that if there are no more uploads within a week since the last upload date then the image will have to be declined. Storm &#9835;  00:10, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Here you go, finished! PoppyShine (talk) 00:19, June 12, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Oops spotted some waste, here once again ^-^ PoppyShine (talk) 00:22, June 12, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

The lineart looks a bit blurry. Is the shading running along it over the majority of the image? If so, please define your light source. I hope I'm not coming off as rude... 17:17, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

You still appear to not be following my advice. You need to look at the apprentice tutorials i linked above and fix your shading and define your light source. With that said, define the light on the chest, legs, and flank. Add some shading on the tail and haunches please Storm  &#9835;  17:29, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

WHAT?!I just redid the whole thing all together and copied the shading perfectly! PoppyShine (talk) 01:21, June 13, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Also I looked at the apprentice pixel and it still had some texture, I'm fine with the way the apprentice looks, I honestly think my best one is the textured one. PoppyShine (talk) 02:33, June 13, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

The apprentice pixel does not have texture. It is smudged shading. Please remove your texture and in the future, please dont say that of other images. What you said is implying that the OA of the apprentice image is lower than you are and we dont take that kindly here. Im not yelling at you you just need to know not to make fun of/think lowly of other peoples art ok? Storm &#9835;  02:56, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

No,no,no I'm talking about how my textured-looking one is better than the rest of my art, I wasnt making fun of the apprentice image.I think that the apprentice art looks better than mine, but it turns out I copied the older one with the texture that time.PoppyShine (talk) 03:08, June 13, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

That's not what she was implying. She was saying that her best image was the one with the texture, not that hers was better than Sorrel's image. Storm, please stop with these kinds of comments- you are not a lead, therefore you honestly do need to chill out. You've been told about this and it's starting to borderline on annoying. You are still a newer warrior, so please, leave the enforcement of the rules to the leads of the project.

Poppy, as nice as your image is, Sorrel has said before that her image no longer has texture, so you will need to remove it- as her image was approved first, that is the one that all other images in the set are required to match- it's not that no one likes your image, it's just part of the rules. If you're not sure what shading is supposed to look like on these blanks, you can ask one of the more experienced members and we'll be more than glad to help you out. =) The apprentice tutorials are vastly outdated and only show limited options for sources, and even then, some of them are not entirely accurate. It looks like you're trying to use the light source coming from the bottom.. Why not look at Whitefang's warrior, Graymist's warrior, or Birchfall's warrior for examples on how to use that source? If you're still unable to understand, then come and ask one of us. There is nothing wrong with asking for help.

What tool do I use to define shading on Pixlr? Do you think I should remake the image?rPoppyShine (talk) 22:12, June 14, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Here it is, I defined shading and hopefully this looks much better! PoppyShine (talk) 14:08, June 15, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Poppy please stop aligning your image. Define the shading on the neck and blur the shading a bit more please. Also the lineart appears to be blurry. Did you use layers? Theres waste by the tail and in the triangle hole too Storm  &#9835;  14:17, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know how to stop my images from aligning.Please stop blaming me for this, I'm not trying to align the images. PoppyShine (talk) 19:14, June 15, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Ok, here it is, this wonderful piece of art has everything. :D Hopefully my image isn't aligned,i checked on its coding and it seemed fine. PoppyShine (talk) 23:42, June 15, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

There's a lot of waste around the image. And when you check the coding, make sure it doesn't have anything after the .png in the file name, like thumb or something. Dull down the base color a bit, you made it too dark. Define the shading and light on the body as well. Storm &#9835;  23:45, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Here! Done it quickly xD! PoppyShine (talk) 00:04, June 16, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

There's still waste around the image. By the tail, paws, head...etc. Storm &#9835;  00:22, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Alright I found the tiny specks of waste (which was hard) and the large lines of waste and erased them from the picture. PoppyShine (talk) 00:37, June 16, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

You're getting there! There's still some specks of waste here and there. There's some up above the lineart. The best thing to do is on pixlr (idk if its the same thing as my program, but...) is select the lineart layer in the list of layers. Then use the selection tool in the toolbar, looks like a little wand. Then you click on the outside of the image. The outside of the whole image should have a shiny band thing around it. Next step is to click on the base color layer. Then click on the eraser and erase everything on that layer, and then de-select everything, and viola! As for the rest of the image, could you add some shading to the back of the haunches, along the neck and head, as well as the back of the tail? If you need some help, you can look at one of the other warrior images, such as Archeye's warrior or Sorrelstripe's warrior. If you need any more help, leave me a message on my talk page and I'll be glad to help! Storm &#9835;  00:46, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Considering her light source, I don't think she needs shading in those places. 01:06, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Finished!PoppyShine (talk) 01:38, June 16, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Could you add some light on the legs/paws Poppy? Also idk if it's just me but it looks like there's some kind of texture? Storm &#9835;  17:04, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't add any texturePoppyShine (talk) 07:01, June 17, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

I dunno it still looks a bit odd to me. Like you used a spray tool, it looks kinda blotchy? idk if that's the right word. It might be my screen. Storm &#9835;  12:55, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't seem like I need to define shading anywhere, but i guess I need to darken the neck shading. Do you agree? PoppyShine (talk) 01:35, June 18, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Yes you do need to define shading everywhere on the image. Are you looking at the examples that we are providing to you? Storm &#9835;  01:37, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Yep and I color picked from the apprentice image. PoppyShine (talk) 01:41, June 18, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Here, I defined the shading. PoppyShine (talk) 17:03, June 18, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

It doesn't look defined on the file history. It just looks like you just lightened the shading. Defining shading/anything means that you need to add some more shading, or add shading depth. Usually defining light is just erasing some shading or adding a highlight. Storm &#9835;  17:24, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea on how to define shading it doesnt really tell you on the apprentice guide thingy.PoppyShine (talk) 17:52, June 18, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

But I just told you how. Storm &#9835;  17:54, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

No, Im talking about the tool. PoppyShine (talk) 17:56, June 18, 2015 (UTC)PoppyShine

Um, there isn't a 'Shading Defining' tool. You have to do it via one of the ways Storm told you. 19:18, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Mapleshade (Alt. DF) ~ For Approval
I was in a rush, so can it please be renamed? Sorry >< 13:39, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the white front paw Storm  &#9835;  13:58, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Er... Storm, both front paws are white. Which one do you mean? 14:57, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Renamed. 8D

Should the tail be bushy and tangled like the other images? User: Dewdrops56/talk 15:15, June, 12, 2015

Would it not make sense for the same edited lineart to be used for both images? Whichever one that is. 15:57, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

this is trying to match the ginger and white alts, not the tortoiseshells. and messy fur doesnt have to match. 15:59, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

My bad. The one farthest from us please Storm  &#9835;  16:03, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

I only suggest it because the linearts match for every other set of Mapleshade's alts. Also, perhaps dull down the scars a bit? 16:08, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Ragged fur doesn't even really need to match in general, I think.. given that each image is a different point in a cat's life, the amount of raggedness, for lack of a better word, is going to change.

reups I went ahead and added a little bit of ragged fur lineart on the tail. But with all due respect, I'm keeping my lines instead of recycling Skt's. His lines are nice and all, buut I'd rather keep mine original. Just my two cents. also the apprentice images dont share exactly the same lines  16:21, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

I'm seeing lines on the white, did you add texture? I love it honestly but the other images don't have texture, so I think it has to be removed. 02:35, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

I think that's actually her shading, Stealth. I know I'm starting to do the same thing on my bi-colored cats, even without texture. it's a way to show depth and realism in the shading without having it monopolize the white and make it look flat.

Yes, that's shading. I have it that way to make the image look less flat, and to try and give more of an impression of unkempt fur. You're probably also looking at some of the stripes on the ginger. 08:13, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading. 10:08, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

reups, also tweaked the lines significantly. 22:03, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the belly shading just a tad, if you can. 16:48, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

reups 16:24, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

With light coming from in front of the face, the entire tail should be shaded, except for the part at the very top which connects with the spine. 02:18, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Redwillow (DF) - CBA
Derp. Lawd that pattern though, and I think I need to change the tint on the shading...Definitely fun to make as a break between my calc assignments ^.^ 16:57, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Very nice job sunjaw! Could you define the earpink a little bit as I can't make it out very well. Storm &#9835;  17:01, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

reupped Thanks Storm! And that earpink is just a pain! I'm trying to get it without making it too different from the previous images. I'm not even sure if this looks any better 17:34, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Holy mother of god this is amazing. Can you define the shading on <-- frontmost visible leg?

reupped ^.^' 22:07, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Wow when I first saw this I thought it was a picture of a real cat I love this. Mind define the shading/light/shading depth on the forepaw closest to us? 01:06, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

reupped Thanks Snow; I know he does look shockingly realistic...I didn't even do that intentionally haha. 02:48, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

I do think there could be more of those darker patches on him, I know It's facing another side, but the amount of those darker patches- especially on his back should be rather constant. 04:24, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

This looks incredible, Sunjaw. :D Could you define the shading inside the ear? Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:47, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

reupped Thank you :D and I added a few darker patches and defined several others. Let me know if it's too much or not enough 03:23, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

CBA?

Shredtail (OTS) (DF) ~ For Approval
don't tell me to increase/decrease the amount of fur missing around the tail. theres no way i can make it match any better than it already is. also don't tell me to match the rogue/warrior more pattern/scar-wise. this is a totally different angle. thank you. 17:09 Fri Jun 12

Looks great berry! Can you define the light on all four legs? Storm &#9835;  17:15, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

With the source I'm using (top right corner) I personally don't think there'd be a lot a lot of visible highlights on his legs; poofy fur from being angry and all. The light is definitely there though; I can define it if someone else agrees I should. For now, though, I'd like to leave it. 18:04 Fri Jun 12

Can you make the scars and the furless part of the tail a little more pink? 02:35, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

I colourpicked the scar colour right from the lightest part of the scars on the rogue. That is the colour of the scars on the other images, therefore I will not change them. As for the tail, it's shading that's throwing off the colour. Again, lightest part of the furless part of the rogue. If you want me to redo the shading around there, I can. But I don't how how much I'll be able to do. That little but was an ass to shade. 07:26 Sat Jun 13

I agree with Storm, I can't really make out the light on the legs very well. COuld you define it a bit? 23:07, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the head? 04:30, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Can you fix the tail a bit? Its bothering me that the unfurred part is longer than the tail should be because of the longhaired blank. Maybe go over that part with the shorthair blank and fix it? Sorry if im confusing you Storm  &#9835;  14:21, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

With light coming form in front of the face, the whole tail would be in shadow, except for the very top part which connects to the spine. I can't tell if it's a stripe or shading above the head, but anything that flows on the spine would be entirely in light. 02:17, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Darkstripe (DF Alt) - For Approval
I love silver tabbies.

Re-uploaded. Redid the stripes, as that did not fit Darkstripe and those were stripes I'd meant to use for something else.

Can you define the shading a bit? This is just as amazing as the last image. 02:35, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the eye depth a bit 03:29, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you. 8D I adore this kind of pelt style, and my OC is a silver tabby, so I'm pretty experienced with these and some of my best images have been silver tabbies...

Define shading depth on the head, tail and paws? 04:29, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Could you possibly define the shading on his belly? 16:47, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Whole tail should be in shadow with light coming from in front of the cat's face. LOVE YOU 02:16, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Silverhawk (DF) - For Approval
Just love his name 20:58, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Can you darken the stripes a bit to match the warrior? This is awesome. 02:35, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups Thanks ^^ 09:33, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the earpink just a little. I know it's in shading, but I can't really see it. Beautiful image! 22:55, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

You've left the inside of the mouth white, could you make that a dark red/orange, or a darker shade of the tongue's color? Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:45, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups Thx Ice :) 08:43, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Comments? 14:33, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

I had plans to CBA this yesterday but I dozed off, oops. CBA?

So sorry to break this, but with light coming from the front of the face, the entire tail would be in shadow, except for the very top, (the part that comes straight from the back and should remain in light). There shouldn't be any shading along the top slope of the cat, especially right above the head on the neck. 02:15, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups 14:41, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (DF) ~ For Approval
I do not like this. 21:28, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Brighten up the white a fair bit, please. Also, is it me, or are his images a bit too light..?

Reups I think they're dark enough, personally, but it's up to you. 21:41, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, maybe sharpen the stripes juuuuust a tiny bit? Also, he's dark brown...so... idk, they just seem really light...maybe it's the highlights. I know when they were made, dark brown wasn't exactly dark brown.

Reups hmm... I decided to test to see what darkening him would do - I stuck the stripes on multiply and darkened the base, before I switched back to normal. I took a screenshot of the darkened version; would that look dark enough?

Yes, that looks wonderful. I like it. 8D

Would you like me to go ahead and do that, or should I or you nominate them first? 14:24, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

You've left the inside of the mouth white, could you make that a dark red/orange, or a darker shade of the tongue's color? Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:45, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Also, you've colored the teeth the same color as the tongue. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:49, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Reups that mouth is confusing to colour. Anyway, since the darkening tweak nomination was approved, I went ahead and darkened the base and stripes. To the tweakers, the base is #3b200c, and the stripes are simply on multiply, the opacity dropped to 90%. 11:37, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

The base looks a bit too much on the red side can you dull it a bit? Maybe like bramblestars pelt? Storm &#9835;  14:23, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Red? I don't think it is. Are you sure it's not just your monitor? 16:08, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't look red to me… anyway, could you possibly define the light on the forepaw furthest from us? I don't know if it is just my monitor 08:05, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Reups if this looks an itsy bit lighter, it's not a colour change - it's just 2% opacity of highlights. 14:38, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

I think his stripes look thicker and possibly less dense on his other images? Yes, I know it's the other side. does anyone remember me? S i l v e r m i s t i e  Dream it   Back to Future✼   00:59, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

SORREL I love you but if the light is coming from the right side of the image, in front of his face, the whole tail would be in shadow except for the top part which is lined up with the slope of the back, which should be in light as well. 02:13, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Reups aww love you too, Leggy; and yes, I remember you, Bramble. But I thought the stripes matched - if anyone else agrees with you, I'll happily change it. 16:43, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I really don't mean to be rude by disagreeing with your suggestion, but the tail now looks flat from being entirely in shadow. There should be just enough light in the center line of the tail to show that the tail is still a round object. Otherwise, it looks like a flat piece of paper stuck to the end of the cat. Jayie Unwritten words~ 16:54, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Clawface (DF) ~ For Approval
I cannot match the scars for the life of me >< any help with it? 00:53, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Given that he's supposed to be battle-scarred, I think he could use a few more scars, wouldn't you agree?

Reupload I've also fixed the scars they are much better. 02:10, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit and add pink to the paw pads 02:53, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload I looked up on paw pad colours, and if we just assume he is a mixed breed, darker coloured cats typically have gray/black paws, while lighter cats have pink. It can be a mix of grey/black with pink. I think Clawface is okay with his paw pad but if anyone thinks otherwise, I can lighten it and/or add a little pink. 04:30, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the scars. ~ Silvercloud There is always hope... 12:41, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

define the shading more and blur it or whatever on the back and tail. 12:57, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload So any snarling kitties! 00:44, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

You left the inside of the mouth white, and colored the front teeth the same color as the tongue. Could you make the teeth white/pale and the inside of the mouth a darker shade of the tongue? Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:51, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Define the scars, please. I can only see two of them. 16:46, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the back shading just a little more. Define the tail tip shading as well. 23:53, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 06:54, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front right leg, if there is any. Might just be my computer though. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 02:15, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

The facial shading suggests light is coming from the right, so I'm rolling with that: remove all shading along the back and top of the tail (lined up with the back), cover the rest of the tail entirely in shadow, add shading along the belly, and add some directly behind the head, because it's connected to the body. Nice job though! 02:11, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (Alt. DF) ~ For Approval
I'm seeing these blanks everywhere now Jayie I love them so much! 01:09, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, please.

Re-ups 08:59, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

The shading still looks dark - lighten it a few more ticks, please. 22:46, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups 22:59, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Soften the texture and add shading depth on the back 04:18, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups 10:17, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the overall shading some more. It still looks a bit too hard-edged. 16:45, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Soften the texture more on the tail. 23:58, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups 09:53, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

I think the shading is still a little hard edged. Btw I don't think two highlight points (well, explaining) are needed on the shoulder...? Might be wrong :P I love his belly  S i l v e r m i s t i e   Dream it   Back to Future✼   01:01, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

It looks like your shading is coming from the right, so remove all the shading along the top of the back and add it onto the belly, behind the legs, and directly behind where the shoulder ends. Cover all of the tail in shading, as well, except for the very top, which is lined up with the slope of the back. Nice job! 02:09, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Snowtuft (DF) ~ For Approval
So many Dark Forest submissions, they're going like hotcakes! I've always had a soft spot for Snowtuft. 01:22, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 06:35, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define shading depth 00:26, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the back leg closest to us and the light on the one farthest from us please Storm  &#9835;  12:33, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Could you possibly expand the shading a tad everywhere? 16:44, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded, not sure if I made the shading too dark or not. 18:57, June 15, 2015 (UTC)'''

It is a little on the dark side, tbh. Maybe lighten it just a slight bit? Smooth out the shading a little more as well. Nice :)  00:40, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Define your light source, it looks a bit like there's shading all around the outline 06:48, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the legs? Also, the chest, back leg and tail end shading looks a little grey. Might I suggest tinting the shading to a colour other than grey, such as blue? It'll make it look less grey. 21:12, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading? It's kinda flat at this moment I know, I swear I screw up way worse than you do when I shade white cats  S i l v e r m i s t i e   Dream it   Back to Future✼   01:08, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't the scar show? If I remember right it said that he was sliced all the way to his belly  04:09, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

That's on his left side, I think User: Dewdrops56/talk 04:17, June, 16, 2015

Reuploaded 16:13, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the shading a lot more? And can you define the light/shading on his legs please? Storm &#9835;  17:06, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 18:09, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

If the shading is coming from directly above, more of the tail would be in shadow and there would be less shadow defining the top of the shoulder. Also remove the shading separating the tail from the rump, if that's the case. If it's coming from the right, add even more shading to the entire tail-most of the body would be blocking all of it out! Fantastic job on dealing with the white cat, though, because I still can't do them. 02:08, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Brokenstar (DF) - For Approval
I've made this piece of trash too much like chocolate and I want to eat him. Anyway, comments? Let's get this approved before Monday when I go on my last KS3 trip 01:48, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define the scars and change the colour of the light part of the tail? It looks pink. 02:35, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

can you make his tail look more bent? i can hardly tell and he is named for it. 07:39, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped Sorry, but I'd rather not touch the lighter part of the tail. It's the exact same color as the rest and I color-picked on the lightest pixel I could find on the rogue. 09:39, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

The pale parts on the tail are the exact same coloring as the pale parts on the rest of the image- I would know, as I remember when most of these images were put on the tweak page and approval pages. The leader image is a good example- the pale parts clearly look pale and they're not pink. Where you color picked honestly doesn't matter, as it looks pink on this image, while it does not on his others. This is borderlining on the "it's fine and I don't want to change it" thing, and if you continue, I will be declining this. Where you color picked does not justify your comment- different shading methods will result in different colors.

Re-upped Exactly- The tail is the same color as the rest, that's why I was hesitant to change it only on the tail, and as for the color, I tried color-picking from the rogue, there was an unshaded pixel that betrayed the actual base color for the pale part, so that's where I got my whole pale colors from. There's really no need to pull out the declining threat when I say that I'd rather not touch the color because it came from one of his legit images. Now, I tweaked the pale parts a little, I'm not entirely sure if this changed anything, and I think it could be worse... 14:13, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

I'll pull the declining threat, as I am getting more than sick of the "it's fine" thing. It still looks pink, and I have that right as deputy of the project. The pale parts do not look the same, and I never said that they did on your image- I was talking about the other images in his set. Colorpick from the leader if you're going to colorpick, as the leader is the first image in the set, I believe. I never once said it didn't come from a legit image- also, I'm pretty sure everything is shaded on the rogue, given it's Scarlet's, and her shading and highlight style leaves no pixels untouched. If someone says something, then colorpick from a different image to satisfy the commentor- he has more than enough of them to chose from.

Add light to the eyes. I can barely tell them apart from the fur right now. 14:37 Sat Jun 13

Re-upped There, everything is from the leader. Also I would know f there is an unshaded pixel- since I zoomed in straight at the image to get a good color. I'm extremely tired right now and the last thing I want is another full scaled fight over "its fine" bullshit. I have tried to be well-behaved and I have tried to not pull out a direct "its fine" shit without good reason, but right now I really do not have any nerve to continue another fight over my first dark forest image. 14:41, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the facial shading, if there is any.-- 16:44, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly no one should be too snappy about this. Burnt did this because we agreed that we can say "it's fine" for a reason. Her being wrong doesn't mean she was looking for an excuse. Anyway, blur/smudge the stripes a bit? They're kinda hard edged, maybe just on his shoulder. I like this :) Myself can ever do any linear edits besides a torn ear  S i l v e r m i s t i e   Dream it   Back to Future✼   01:14, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

From the angle your lighting is coming from, the tail would entirely be in shadow, especially the tip of the tail between the legs, as the front of the cat is bent down and the tufts of fur on the back are high enough to block out light to the top. Also add a little more shading behind the shoulder, leaking onto the belly, and behind the head, filling up more of the neck. This is pretty though! 02:05, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Tigerstar (DF) ~ For Approval
sigh 09:56, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Try removing the eyelashes. ~ Silvercloud There is always hope... 12:42, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Is this a female blank? Storm &#9835;  12:56, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

You kinda just repeated what Silvercloud said... also, there's waste in between the tail and leg lineart.

Re-uploaded Female Tigerstar? lmao 14:24, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Make the mouth darker than the tongue. They have the same color. ~ Silvercloud There is always hope... 14:29, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Could you please try to clarify that? Because i don't really get where you mean by "the mouth" on this blank. 14:36, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

http://i.imgur.com/1qFSyuF.png If you can not see it, try downloading the image. Look inside of the red circle. It is the spot you should darken. ~ Silvercloud There is always hope... 14:51, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

I think she means do something like this with the mouth, where it's different colors. I took the idea for that from Jayie's previously uploaded file that had examples for the blanks. I only give a zoomed in link because damn those are small. yes, that is my OC

Please add a scar going across the muzzle, as that's what's depicted in his leader charat. User: Dewdrops56/talk 15:02, June, 13, 2015

Blur/smudge the tail shading. 23:40, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I hope I fixed what everyone suggested. If I forgot to fix something please tell me 04:17, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

You forgot the rip in his ear Storm  &#9835;  14:25, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

My bad, it's on the ear that we can't see very well. My mistake. Also I came to notice that Tigerstar's pelt seems too light for being dark brown...same as Hawkfrost and Bramblestar... I think I'm gonna make a tweak nomination Storm  &#9835;  14:40, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

can you remove the scar on the outside on his tail? a cat doesnt have flesh there. 07:52, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the back leg furthest from us. 21:56, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

It looks like your light is coming from in front of the cat's face. So, the whole tail should be in shadow, and anything lined up with the angle the spine is at (the upper back, upper neck, top of the head, part of the tail that connects with the spine, etc) should all be in light. Most of the belly would be in shadow, too. 02:24, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Antpelt (DF) - For Approval
17:29, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on his hind legs. I like him! (both your image and the character). 22:52, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define shading depth on the main body? 23:02, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't the shading be under the belly and not on top of the back with your light source? Storm &#9835;  12:28, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Define shading everywhere except back legs. Oh, the shoulder shading should be removed more I think. And probably smooth it out as well :)  S i l v e r m i s t i e   Dream it   Back to Future✼   01:17, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (DF) - For Approval
I'm really happy with how this came out, but man did it take forever to make. XD Thoughts? Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:10, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

He's Sexy! Define the main body a touch?

Reuploaded. Better? Jayie Unwritten words~ 15:17, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Ohh, our words are turning huge 0.0 Maybe smooth out the "shading texture" thingy? He's fab! S i l v e r m i s t i e  Dream it   Back to Future✼   01:18, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

I dunno, that's how I've been shading all my images for a while. I'll smooth it out a bit, but I think the sort of fur-texture shading works. Jayie Unwritten words~ 06:07, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

From what I'm interpreting, the light is coming from in front of the face. Therefore, the whole tail should be in shadow. Normally the top of the tail connected to the spine should be in light, but his fur is spikey enough to block it. This rocks 02:22, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

If I shade the whole tail, it's going to look flat, instead of rounded. I'll add some shading behind the hip, though. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:22, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

But that's the issue with the angle of these blanks and your light source; if you leave the tail in any light, you're inaccurate to the true angle of light and how there's an entire solid body in front of the tail. Maybe angle the light differently so there is light on the tail? Sources from behind may add the depth you're looking for. 16:20, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Even if a body part's entirely in shadow, there's always going to be just enough difference in the shadow so you can tell that object is rounded or shaped. So I'm not just going to color the tail one consistent shade. I shaded the half of the tail in shadow behind the body, and left enough light to show that it's rounded. Jayie Unwritten words~ 16:46, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Beepaw (Ki) ~ For Evaluation
10:15, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and perhaps lighten it a little. 10:54, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the back paw. Looks wonderful for your first charart! Storm &#9835;  12:27, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad, please. 16:43, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Soften the texture a little bit. Cute (: 23:06, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the earpink just a tad. I like this! 23:59, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks ^^ 09:48, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading a little bit more, dull down the texture some more as well, and add some shading between her front legs on her underbelly? Storm &#9835;  14:27, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Why would she need more shading on her front paws and underbelly? She has enough there. I think you should lighten the shading a little more. 17:45, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Sparrowfeather (DF) (DF) ~ For Approval
Eh... comments? 00:33, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Nice. More shading on the bend of the front leg? Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:10, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped 14:38, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

youve coloured in the gap between the tail and leg. 15:06, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped Oops. 16:01, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

With light coming from the front of the face, the whole tail should be in shadow, and anything along the spine (top of the neck above the head, top of the tail, the whole back, etc) should be in light. Also add a little mroe shading coming from behind her armpit, leaking onto the belly. Very lovely though! 02:21, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped 17:15, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Flowerpaw (Star) ~ For Approval
Yay! My first StarClanner! Everything from the apprentice, as I have the file. Storm &#9835;  15:41, June 18, 2015 (UTC)