Warriors Wiki talk:Characters/Archive 7

Mistyfoot's Kits?
I'm not sure if this has been discussed or what was decided, but what should we do about Mistyfoot's supposed kits? It seems that Reedwhisker, Graymist, and, for some reason, Mintfur have been identified as her kits but I've never seen this confirmed. Can someone shed some light on this please, so we know what to put or take off of articles? Skyfeather  '95 22:23, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about the specific chat or whatever it was revealed in, but I think Reedwhisker is the most likely to be true, if not the others. I noticed that in recent books he and Mistyfoot have been seen together more, but this may just be because he is a senior warrior. My guess is that in some chat, Someone asked whichever Erin who Mistyfoot's four kits were, and she picked out four random cats from RiverClan, Graymist and Mintfur likely being picked because they share a similar pelt color with her. I've also heard from some people that Rippetail and Dawnflower are her kits as well. Reedwhisker and Dawnflower could be, as they are the right age, but Rippletail was Reedwhisker's APPRENTICE, so he's far too young, and I think Mintfur and GRaymist are too, though I'm not sure. In any case, nothing is confirmed, so if/when it is we can post something. (whew! Sorry for the mini-rant) Insaneular | raluenasnI  22:30, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about Graymist and Mintfur, but I know Reedwhisker is her son. I read it in an Erin Hunter Chat, although I can't remember which one--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 22:32, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

So leave Reedwhisker up then, but take the others down? I honestly don't think it's possible that Reedwhisker could be her son, unless she happened to have kits and was still deputy, which wouldn't make sense. Really, I also think her kits were never actually going to be named warriors in the series, they were just needed for the flood. Skyfeather  '95 22:35, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Well, if memory serves, she was a Queen since ItW, meaning, that by Midnight, her kits would be 12-20 moons old, having been warriors for a while. She may have been a queen again more recently, although this may have conflicted with her deputy duties, it's possible another queen took care of her kits for a few moons? Or, more likely- she lost her first litter of kits and had another in the time between TDH and Firestar's Quest- which would make them about six moons by Midnight, thus being apprentices then, like Reedwhisker was. Insaneular | raluenasnI 22:38, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure if it came down to explaining Reedwhisker being her son, Vicky would put up a reasonable argument, which makes sense but would still be a bit conflicting in a few ways I'm sure. Is Reedwhisker the only one that has been confirmed confirmed? Skyfeather  '95 22:43, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

In the leader election, Reedwhisker thanked Firestar for saving him in a flood. And in Fire and Ice, one of the kits they saved was black. This was most likely him, but it would be a mistake on the erins part--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 22:44, December 7, 2009 (UTC)


 * Morningleaf had been on the most recent Erin Hunter chat, and if I remember correctly, Morningleaf created a forum about it in which it said that Mistystar chooses Reedwhisker as her deputy because he is her son. And I apologize, as I saw it on Mistyfoot's page, that those four were her kits, so I added it on their pages. I did check the history to see if it was a rumour by an IP, but it wasn't.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:03, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Since we've all sort of agreed on Reedwhisker being her son, should we take the others down then, unless they can be verified (and I don't mean Vicky randomnly picking a couple of cats when she clearly has no idea)? Skyfeather  '95 19:51, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Think: Who was an apprentice when Reedwhisker was? Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!20:15, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with keeping Reedwhisker up, since he has a substantial amount of evidence, but I think the rest should be taken down. Um, if memory serves, I think Dawnflower might have been an apprentice at the same time(and I've heard rumors that she was another one of the kits)... I can't remember any for sure though, and since no apprentices other than ThunderClan were listed until either Sunset or Po3, we can't just look them up. If anyone is planning on rereading the early New Prophecy books soon, you could keep an eye out for RiverClan apprentices, but other than that, we can't do much else to figure them out. Of course, next time someone's at a book signing or author chat, they can ask. (If anyone is able to go to either of those, I'm jealous of you XD) Insaneular | raluenasnI  20:48, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll begin taking the other's wrong. And Tinselfern? Just because there happened to be other apprentices along with Reedwhisker, doesn't prove that they are Mistyfoot's. Skyfeather  '95 21:26, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

But Dawnflower can't be her kit because she was Mistyfoot's apprentice. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!21:06, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Switch that. Sorry, getting confused with who mentors who. Graymist could potentially be a kit because to be a queen you need to be a warrior. She must have gained her name in Twilight. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!14:42, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay well I am going to read The New Prophecy soon so I'll keep a lookout on the RiverClan apprentices :) -- Pan dast orm Panda Love 02:11, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Skystar
Well, I've never seen the character mentioned.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:44, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I don't remember actually seeing her, or him, either, but her existence was implied. Skyfeather  '95 18:51, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hm, thanks for bringing this up. It's true that a Skystar would be expected, but since we never actually saw one, should it be deleted? Anyone else have an opinion on this? I'm pretty neutral. Insaneular | raluenasnI 20:50, December 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * If we've never seen Skystar, we should delete the article.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:50, December 17,

2009 (UTC)

Maybe we could to a Discussion for Deletion like we did with "Fourth Clan"? I could ask Bramble how to set one up. Insaneular | raluenasnI 23:11, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

She was in Code of the Clans (or one of the field guides.....) with the other leaders. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!02:05, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reference?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 05:50, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Page 2, Dawn of the Clans, Code of the Clans Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare! 14:43, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Um, I think you're mistaken, I didn't see any mention of Skystar there... Insaneular | raluenasnI 21:18, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

It says "... strongest from each hunting ground: Wind, River, Thunder, Shadow and Sky. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!22:56, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I apologize, that was my mistake. I was looking for "Skystar" and completely skipped that :P Well, I think it's worth keeping then, but we should note that s/he was never formally seen. Insaneular | raluenasnI 19:09, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Feature Article templates
How about having a template on the page of a featured article which says that 'This is a featured article'. I know that it's put on the talk page, but it could be an easier way to tell users, old and new, about the best articles of the wiki.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:58, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I've seen things like that on other wikis, and thought it looked nice. It could also be left on after the article has been featured. (Or we could make a separate one saying that it was earlier featured). I made a couple of Rough Drafts for the template, of course, these are the first templates I've made so I know they aren't that good. The wording's also a bit cheesy, I know, but it can be changed. I was just trying to make an example. So, what do people think of that general idea? Insaneular | raluenasnI 21:56, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thou hast been deceiving me. They look BRILLIANT. The wording was nicely chosen. Also fix your new signature. The "Batteries not Included" links to "User tal" which does not exist.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:02, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I thought they looked a bit bland, but if you like them, I'll make them into formal templates? For titles, say, and  ? Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  20:03, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

That would be easy to find. But people could put them anywhere. Maplefern

What do you mean by that? That people would put the templates on pages that hadn't been featured? <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  02:44, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I'll create them here. Type in for current and  for past. And Maplefern, I'll put a "Usage" section on the template.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 05:02, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * I made some mistake I don't understand. I've asked Eu to fix it. If he doesn't respond within a couple of days, then I'll split it into two templates. It'll be easier with one though.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:04, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I looked at it, and Suprisingly (sarcasm) I didn't know how to fix it XD Wouldn't it be simpler if we just put them as two separate templates? <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  22:53, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I thought that over and I created two templates  for current   for past.–– Σ   ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 08:52, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for making them! Do you happen to know which articles were featured before Tigerstar? because I don't... He was up when I joined the wiki. Also, can we make a category for Featured Articles so we can find them more easily and make sure that if we're nominating an article for gold that it has been featured? <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  15:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * Already done. Scourge, Redtail, and Bluestar. Tawnypelt was featured by some unknown user, but GB had reverted it, so I didn't add it on her page.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 08:49, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Cinderpelt
Why is it rated gold?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:59, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Probably somebody put that in. What was it before? Started, bronze, or Silver? Maplefern Hi!

She should be bronze since her article has never been voted on for silver or gold. <font color="#33CCFF">Skyfeather <font color="#33CCFF" style="background:white;"> '95 18:40, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

It should be bronze, I think (although it's nearly good enough for silver). I'll fix it. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  20:03, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

My mistake, I think I actually did this before, too, and Bramble changed it back because, it was voted Gold before PC went inactive and never processed. I'll put it on the gold list now to avoid further confusion. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  00:12, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Violet
It says that it was confirmed by Erin Hunter that she was alive. True? And people have putting a "Confirmed alive by Erin Hunter" next to Hollyleaf on her family's pages (mostly)–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg

I don't know about Violet, but although I DO know that Vicky has strongly hinted that Hollyleaf is alive in various chats and interviews, I still think it should be Status Unknown for her, as there was no DIRECT confirmation. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  20:03, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Could I join?--Echoheart 12:29, December 22, 2009 (UTC)Echoheart

Sure. I'll add you. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  02:44, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Tribe Names Contradictions
Since I've working on Moonrise's cliffnotes, I came across that the three Tribe cats who were sent to slay Sharptooth where Talon of Swooping Eagle, Rock Where Snow Gathers, and Bird Who Rides the Wind. However, when I looked it up, Rock's name was actually Rock Beneath Still Water, and Bird's was Bird That Rides the Wind. I think I remember Bird's name being changed in Outcast or something, but what about Rock's? Could someone clear this up?

And one more thing, I keep seeing this on articles- where does it say that Crag Where Eagles Nest is the sister of Brook and brother of Talon? <font color="#33CCFF">Skyfeather <font color="#33CCFF" style="background:white;"> '95 18:39, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure about Bird and Rock, but about Crag- In Outcast when Jaypaw looked into Brook's memories, a cat died in the battle, who Talon later mentioned was their brother. It was either Crag or Jag, but I can't remember which. I'll check after I do my HW :P <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  20:03, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Rock and Bird's names changed in Dawn, according to their articles. Maplefern Hi!22:37, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I'll fix the name thing then, but does anyone know about the Crag/Brook/Talon thing? Because if it can't be cited, it needs to be taken down and stopped from being added back to the articles. <font color="#33CCFF">Skyfeather <font color="#33CCFF" style="background:white;"> '95 17:57, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I could have sworn I read somewhere that either Crag or Jag was their brother, but I can't find it now... so I guess we shouldn't have it posted anywhere. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  18:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Character Descriptions

 * Per request from Bramble, I have decided that as soon as possible, we should add citations for character's descriptions. The reason is that often new users or anonymous users add false descriptions, or people disagree about descriptions and get into edit wars- and often a false description gets left on a page, and then when people from PCA are looking to make a picture of that cat, they make it of the false description- and by the time they realize it's too late. I know it would be impossible to get a citation on all the articles right away, but it's something to start doing if you're already citing things. Cool with you guys? <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  02:44, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah!I'm in project charart,so I'd understand from both sides.I agree fully! '''FirePelt 00:45, December 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good, though I'd like to apologise for sparking Bramble off with this idea and thereby creating more work for PC ^_^ Sandy  wishes you a great Christmas!  18:01, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Lol Sadny, don't worry about it, it makes sense anyways. And I can totally understand your frustration when you realize you just spent days working on a charart and it was the wrong color :( <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  18:49, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Can I Join?
Well title says it all :)-- Scroogepath Bahumbug!  00:16, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yup, I'll add you. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  01:07, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks1 And by the way, I love your siggy!-- Scroogepath Bahumbug!  01:09, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Crookedstar and Graystripe
Both are featured articles but are graded started. I've graded them bronze as of now but that needs to be changed.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:45, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I think both are probably good enough for silver, but we'd best go over them once more before deciding for sure. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  15:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Talk: Lionblaze
Like Cinderpelt, he also has gold ratings. Merry Christmas!

Same thing as with Cinderpelt. He was voted gold long ago, and not processed. I'll add him as well. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  00:48, December 26, 2009 (UTC)