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Sandgorse (T)~ For Approval
I dont know if I like the fluff tuffs or not. Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 20:12, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Friendly reminder not to thumb your images! Reduce the pale parts on the tail, belly, chest and muzzle. For the first three, the paler parts are very thin and don't creep onto the main body very much. On the muzzle, reduce the pale parts so it doesn't reach the eyes or cheeks. 20:38, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

The ear pink looks really light compared to his other images. Color pick from either of his previous images to get the correct color. Also, in addition to what Vec said, there needs to be some more stripes. 20:47, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

This needs to be renamed File:Sandgorse.tunneler.png. You are missing a letter in the file name. Also, put some bare skin on where the tufts are, being described with patchy fur means missing fur, which shows skin. If you need reference look at File:Sandgorse.star.png.Potato Flakin (talk) 20:58, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, the "T" in tunneler doesn't need to be uppercase.Potato Flakin (talk) 20:59, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Re~Up Okay, and I want to know, should I edit the positioning and or the shape of the fluff tuffs? Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 21:11, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

You probably should try to match the StarClan one. Did you dethumb this? Potato Flakin (talk) 21:17, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Also, this looks a little darker than his other images. Maybe ask Jayce for the base color if you get stuck.Potato Flakin (talk) 21:21, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Potato Flakin, I am trying to make it mach the warrior blank, because that is how it works, do the first one, not a later one, and it is dethumbed Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 21:42, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

In regards to the fur tufts, make them a little shorter and smaller, if that makes sense. More, you know, tufty ^^ Also, add a little pink (the ear pink color is fine) right underneath each tuft to mimic the exposed skin. 21:45, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Re~Oops, fixed the fluff tuffs, I seem to like them now, and lowered the shading opacsity Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 22:00, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

I did both of Sandgorse's other images. The StarClan has more of the side you need to match than the warrior does.

In terms of placement, the pale parts on the belly and paws need to be receded 22:56, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

There's a little waste around the ear and fur patches on the hind legs, I believe some near tip of the tail. He generally seems much duller to me, the stripes seem to be much thicker here than his other images, there should be more stripes, The pale on the face extends too far across the cheek, The pale parts of the paws does not extend as far up here as on his other images, The pale on the chest and belly should be reduced a considerable amount. The pink to show the skin where the patchy fur is is also a fairly different color here, than on his other images, and this seems a little nitpicky, I thought I'd mention it. SquidwardPlays 23:04, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Also, your image was aligned to the left. don't do that. SquidwardPlays 23:05, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

You've improved so much Owlbite! Can you add some depth to his skin patches? —

I can't see any shading through my screen. might be just me? -- Silverfur   skz  [ 09:31, 12/10/2018 ]

I dont get what you mean by, aligned to the left, and on the other 2, the patchy fur was a difrent color, I am not working on my computer,  so I cant work now, but I can fix the problems! (Please call me TrasH, I am more used to that and was questioning who you were talking about!) Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 00:42, December 11, 2018 (UTC)

You forgot to sign! Please thin out the stripes (this was said in a comment above, not sure if you saw it). The stripes are thinner on his Warrior and StarClan.Potato Flakin (talk) 22:27, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

I agree, the stripes should be thinner and there should be more stripes added to the body. Minkclaw You're my person 22:32, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, the hyphen in the file name needs to be a colon. Please lighten him up (I said this in a comment). The stripes need to be orange. Right now they're goldenrod (not sure how else to describe them). Don't forget adding depth to the skin, Echo mentioned that. Potato Flakin (talk) 22:40, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

I never said I wouldent do that, please stop repeting things that have already been said. I was typeing thet while walking to school, and didnt have time to sign it, I was at school and they emphisise no phones. and last time I did art, I used ~ and was fine, can I get a second opinion on if I should change it? Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 00:42, December 11, 2018 (UTC)

Potato, you need to stop. You've been told multiple times about your conduct. Please give Owl a chance to respond before you repeat comments. Anyways, back to the image. Owl, I renamed it for you, since it needs to be  File:Sandgorse.tunneler.png  in order for it to work on the article. ​​​​​​

I..owe an apology to you Owlbite. I have been forcing you to rush, and I felt humiliated when I learned what I was doing- I am so so SO sorry for so many things. I often have problems controlling my emotions, so please take your time with Sandgorse. Feel free to ignore me being nitpicky..Potato Flakin (talk) 04:11, December 11, 2018 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is the fur a little off from the rest of his images, and aren't the stripes sharper? Malina457 (talk) 17:05, December 12, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Alright, it's been a while since this has been uploaded. Owl, are you still working on this? You have one week from your upload date (which was the 9th) to reupload, which means you have until the 16th to do so. ​

Im as good as crying, I miss doing art, and it has been... like forever from the last time, but I cant, I just... cant. If its not re-up in time, then Ill try at my next chance, but its just been hard to do any work, Ill try to have it up by the end of the day. Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 23:46, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

There is no need to stress, Owlbite! If you need help, feel free to ask me questions on Discord! Also, you can try requesting an extension if you have been busy. 17:50, December 16, 2018 (UTC)

I know the discussion hasn’t been archived yet, but since everyone seems to be in mutual agreement, and I can’t see a reason why not, we’ll go ahead and give you an extra three days to upload. That should be the 19th if I’m not mistaken. Keep it up! 22:42, December 16, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! I didnt have time yesterday, and I play sports and had a game today, I will have it up ''soon! ''Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 02:05, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Fluffs, re did it, the patches... but I like them better than before. Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 02:44, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Hold up, Owl. You need to reupload under File:Sandgorse.tunneler.png. Are you unsure of how to do that? I can always help you if you need it! ​​

Lighten the skin, he almost looks bruised (no offense). He is looking better. Thin out the stripes a lil more and make the tufts stand up a lil more as well. Potato Flakin (talk) 02:56, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Up, done for the night, I cant make the stripes much thinner, and I think they about mach. Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 03:23, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Define shading. I can't see any compared to his starclan version. -- Silverfur   skz  [ 03:28, 12/17/2018 ]

First of all, make sure that when you upload the file the portion between the brackets (the double [) does not contain '|left'. That aligns and screws up the page. Also, add more stripes, he's bare compared to his other images. There's too much pale on the paws too. SquidwardPlays 03:32, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Adding to Silver's comment, maybe defining your light source (the pattern between shaded and non-shaded areas based on the position of the "light") should also help. 04:13, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

The tufts and patches look too dark? They look like bruises. The earpink looks weirdly blurred too. -- Silverfur   skz  [ 10:19, 12/17/2018 ]

I think the colors might be slightly off; stripes look darker on the other images. Perhaps try and get a file from someone to match to? 22:40, December 18, 2018 (UTC)

Re-up, I... um... can somone else explain the |left? I dont get it. Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 23:25, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I got it, Im useing the Visual editor, not the Source editor thing. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 23:28, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Progress. The skin still doesn't match the Warrior and StarClan, colorpick off that. The stripes now look blotchy on the belly and need to be spaced out. The stripes are too dark now and need to be lightened. About the allignment issue, to fix just make sure when you save the file remove the "|left|". Good work Owl, you're improving!Potato Flakin (talk) 00:01, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Looks better Owl! Could you add a little more patchy fur at his tail? -- Silverfur   skz  [ 04:31, 12/20/2018 ]

Make the paler parts a little bit more pale (i.e. just run the highlight tool over them a couple of times)! It appears they are a little lighter in his other images. 23:13, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

To clarify some on Potato's commemt. These stripes are thick and blurry, they should be thinner than what they are (I apologize if someone's already clarified this) —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   13:10, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Re~up, okay, the skin color, sorry if this sounds rude, but I have 2 hairless cats, so I know that the skin color is a lighter color than the main fur color, but more gray. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 21:47, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Much better. The patches look green, so try to make them match the earpink, and make the stripes more noticable (make 'em more orange)Potato Flakin (talk) 21:52, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Re~up, did it. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 22:15, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

The tufts look great! Can you define/darken the shading some? 22:25, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

R(e)-U(p), I was going to, but then forgot, is it to dark now? <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 22:28, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think it looks too dark. Can you add some shading on the ear furthest from us? 22:31, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Pebbleshine (UN) ~ For Approval
hey guys, this was hard and my hands must rest but here is my art. all colors picked from the warrior, pattern done from the warrior side. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   08:36, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

This is gorgeous!! Can you lighten/define the face and neck shading and also smooth out the flecks a bit more on her chest? They seem to stop abruptly. —

Maybe add some white flecks on top of the brown ones. This was done with a specific brush originally, and the layers alternate between colored layers on overlay and multiply, and white. <span style="">14:01 Fri Dec 14

Alright, several things. One, there's tiny specks of waste floating around the character, two, lower the opacity of the shading on the paws, they are almost gray. Three, you didn't fill in the nose, and four, make the placement of the speckles on the chest more natural. They are a straight line right now. Otherwise than that lovely job!Potato Flakin (talk) 14:19, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, it looks completely black on her white fur. I absolutely love the speckles, and you did so well with such a challenging design!! 14:28, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

Smooth the shading in the <-- ear and eye, along with by the tail tip.

16:22, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, Could you possibly redline what you mean, Sun? I'm not sure if the white i just added is good enough but yeah. As from what I was seeing the flecks/speckles match the warrior which I believe I'm suppose to be matching that one's pattern. Also the shading is black, Potato when you mention waste can you possibly say where it is instead of just telling me there's waste as it's sometime very hard to spot waste. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   22:06, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

The speckles on the foreleg closest to us also stop too abruptly as well. On the mentioned leg, it looks more like they got erased and left like that. Not to say that was what occurred, but it is how it appears. If that makes any sense. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 22:28, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

Define the shafing depth.

23:00, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

Yes the shading depth is a must, and the waste is outside the chest, back, tail and belly.Potato Flakin (talk) 00:57, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

I know the shading depth is a must, Patch already pointes that out. Can you point out where because I don't see it. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity    01:04, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

I believe Potato is talking about this. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 01:09, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

I think expanding the shading will also help on the main body and hind leg. 02:07, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

Please crop the image to the lineart on all sides. ​​

I'm not exactly sure how to crop. Should I be croppinv the image if its fhe size from the wikis lineart? —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   09:53, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not asking you to remove any of the lineart... it's just excess space that doesn't need to be there. I'm not asking you to distort your image or anything. =/ ​​

How would I crop it? —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   17:08, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

There may be a arrow or something that allows you to shrink the border. Do you use GIMP? There is a cropping tool shaped like a square. There is some empty background that Jayce wants you to crop a little bit.Potato Flakin (talk) 17:16, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

Patch told me how, I'll upload soon. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   00:12, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, will fix the stomach and facial shading soon. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   20:55, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, fixed the rest of the shading had to remove some waste I forgot on the last upload. Oops. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   21:09, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Can you fix the arm speckles that I mentioned? It seems like you didn't change it at all or took into mind what I said. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 22:03, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

I must have read over the comment, my bad man. I'll fix it soon. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   22:05, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

There's waste outside the chest, back and tail. Bringing this up because I think you forgot about it.Potato Flakin (talk) 22:44, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

I removed it before as far as I could see, and pointing it out when a lot can't see it is a little nitpicky. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   22:47, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

It can be hard to see, but it's there here, here, and here. May as well nab it when you're uploading next imo 22:52, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, I got both this time. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   00:40, December 18, 2018 (UTC)        

Almost, there's still waste on the tail, my apologies for being so nitpicky! (The waste is near the base of the tail).Potato Flakin (talk) 01:25, December 18, 2018 (UTC)

Err... I don't see anymore waste unless you consider this it? Potato, when telling people about waste, adding a picture and circling it out for people can help them a lot more than just pointing it out. If you take the image and change the background in an art program you're likely to see it. —

Could you smooth out the shading on -> front arm, and perhaps add a couple more speckles/flecks/brown spots so it doesn't look so straight down the arm? It basically goes on par with the shading down that arm and it's a bit disorienting. There's also a darker line of flecks on the tail that seem a tad out of place. Perhaps add some white flecks/spots there to break that up a bit? ​​​​​

That darker flecks is how it appeared on the warrior, I was doi g my best to match that since it showed quite a bit of this side of the body. Am I removing most of them or just a little bit of the flecks there? —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   17:18, December 18, 2018 (UTC)

I get what side you're matching, but I think the brown still needs to be broken up a bit. It's not quite that overrun by brown flecks on her other images. There's still a lot of white on that tail. ​​​​​

The shading feels a bit off. I redlined a basis that should be followed with your light source, and I recommend lowering the opacity or changing to a different colour because the black looks super stark on her white and brown pelt >: —

Re-Ups —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   06:07, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the flecks on her -> front leg? —

Should be less speckles on the chest, on the set they appear to gradually fade out to none the further to the center of the chest you get, which on this blank would be the bottom and < sides 23:29, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, hopefully the chest on this is better. I was earlier told to add more flecks so.. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   23:43, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

The speckles on the front limb closest to us are still very disorienting since it looks like they end with the shading. Maybe try extending the speckles to just outside the shading limit, keeping the size, pattern, and opacity of the speckles already there? Throughout the entire limb. Right now the border between the white and the speckles is looking very stark. 06:14, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   07:36, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

I think the speckles end a tad too abruptly still at that spot just at the top of the leg where they cut off, and also on the face. Could you make it so they fade out a bit more before going to white? 18:50, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

can you add shading on the left side of the face? the tuffs of fur would add some shadow there. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 20:13, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

With this light source, the shading would be on --> that side of the face, so it's good.Potato Flakin (talk) 20:22, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

it wouldnt shadow on the face, but on the fur, it overlaps a little, wich would add a shadow. <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 21:48, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

I think the <-- face is fine, there's isn't suppose to be shading there as that's where the light source is coming from is the left. So I'd rather not change it, gonna have to ask for a second opinion here. —  Ellie Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity  ''' 21:58, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Shaded Moss (L) ~ CBA
I love black and white kitties. —

Define the shading a bit on the body except for the chest.Potato Flakin (talk) 22:59, December 18, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded —

Can you define the texture? 00:33, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lets pretend I didn't forget the texture-- ^^; —

This is optional, but I think you should add more black on <-- side of the neck instead of white going all the way across. It appears on his other images the white chest is a little thinner. Totally up to you though! 02:46, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I actually don't know - on his kit, his chest white extends far out but in his ancient and on his StarClan it's very defined. :0 Can I have a second opinion? I'm willing to change it 100% but unsure how or if I should. —

The order is rogue, StarClan, ancient, kit, then leader. Match the StarClan (since the rogue doesn't show the side in question), and we should tweak the kit as per the dates on each image. The placement in question wasn't changed when the StarClan was redone a few months ago, so it doesn't count here. ​​​

Reuploaded —

Idk if it's because of the highlights (which if I remember correctly, you do use them?), but the base seems much lighter here than the rest of the set. 06:11, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded I use highlights sparingly, and I did use them here but I got rid of them, changed the base colour to try and match better and also lowered the texture a bit. I think this looks better...? Here's a comparison of this and his Star so I think I fixed it, but my screens may be a bit weird. —

It looks great! CBA? 06:16, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (W Alt 3) ~ CBA
Here we go, I absolutely love how I did the white on him. I'm very proud of this. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   01:09, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

This is very, very good! :D Define the ear pink? 01:22, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, oops I forgot it. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   01:27, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Oh my gosh this is a perfect depiction of Thistleclaw. Can you thicken the tail lineart? It appears to be thinner than the main body's. 02:47, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

The lineart in this area feels very ... stark I guess? Can you smooth out his tufts there a bit. Unsure how to describe it skjskdjs. —

I'm not quite sure what you mean by stark, I don't see an issue with the spikes there, unless your meaning they're too close to each other? —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   21:35, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

The lineart does seem a bit too crowded there, honestly. ​​​​​

Re-ups, maybe this better? —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   22:06, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Another re-ups, forgot to make texture seen. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   22:11, December 19, 2018 (UTC) 

Make the tufts more spiky. His other images show him much more spikier than what you have here.Potato Flakin (talk) 22:58, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I think the tufts are fine; the lineart doesn't have to 100% match throughout the other images, and given that this is an alt, it doesn't quite matter as long as there are some spikes. ​​​​​​​​​​​

Lighten the shading a little bit on the back, it's making him blue-purple.Potato Flakin (talk) 00:10, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

It's suppose to be that coz the shading color is blue. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   00:10, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

This is more of a question than a critique, but is this area supposed to be colored in? It looks very out of place compared to the rest of the tufted pattern imo. 06:09, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   05:33, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

CBA? Love the design! 06:17, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Shivering Rose (MCA) - For Approval
I don't know completely how to feel about this one. I think I put too much shading onto the tail tip, but I'll fix that later. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 03:43, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Can you define the shading, I can't see it especially on the white parts, the tail white seems more pale gray than white as well. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   03:54, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

The pale gray appearance is because of the shading slip up i mentioned; I put too much. I'll fix it while i define the shading. It is white though. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 03:58, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Define the shading on the herbs, and add some eye depth, because on the kit her eyes are amber.Potato Flakin (talk) 03:59, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Reups <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 04:19, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

This is so cute ;; her white markings feel a bit dark, probably because of the shading - can you lighten the shading on those areas? —

Reups <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 23:16, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

It appears the eyes reverted back to being gray again, add some depth. If the eyes are amber for you excuse my tablet, it likes to be annoying.Potato Flakin (talk) 00:05, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, it's because i messed up with the eyes. I'll fix it in a little bit. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 00:31, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Can you define the shading? I can hardly make it out. 06:06, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Define the light on the ears (most especially the > one) a bit, to make the earpink more visible 15:40, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Reups <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 20:29, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Mind defining the shading depth on the white tailtip? Looks really nice^^ 01:39, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Reups <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 02:10, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Define the shading on the herbs and the light on the hind leg furthest from us? You're doing great! 06:20, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Yew Tail (W) ~ For Approval
All colors from ES image. Comments? 05:24, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

The base colour seems to be leaking onto the tail a bit. —

It's supposed to be there. 05:26, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I can see where you got it from since it's kinda on the ES, but considering this side matches the hunter's, I think it should be removed. It seems super off putting, especially with the warrior blank's lineart. —

Define the shading on the legs, can you also define the eye depth as well. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   05:35, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Blue is the holder of the master pattern, though. I think she knows what's supposed to be there. If anything, we should be tweaking the hunter to also have that tiny spot. ​​​​​​​​​​​

Could you define the shading depth on the head, ears, and tail? 15:19, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 18:29, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

My apologies then ^^; Regardless, can you smooth out the shading on the neck and cheek a teensy bit? —

Reuploaded. 22:56, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Can you shrink the brown face patch a bit so it hugs the eye more tightly? It's much wider here than on the ES near the eyes 06:05, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Spiderstar (W) ~ For Approval
Oh boy. I dont like the placement of those stripes. Silverfur  skz  [ 11:03, 12/19/2018 ]

The stripes definitely look thinner on the other images. 13:56, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thinned! i cant tabby -- Silverfur   skz  [ 14:24, 12/19/2018 ]

Could you add more texture and maybe not make the stripes so...rigid? There's more curves and waves in the other images. 20:55, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

To add onto Vec's stripes comment, the stripes don't seem to match that much? Use the leader's right side as a reference for matching. The stripes should be a bit more jagged and curvy, as well as thicker. His tail also has 5 stripe points (iirc it's been 2 seconds and I already forgot) —

I also think a couple more stripes could be added to his side from looking at the leader blank. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   21:46, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think they should be any thicker (looking at the StarClan image) but definitely curvier! 00:02, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded Curved and added more texture. -- Silverfur   skz  [ 04:28, 12/20/2018 ]

Add shading to that back ear and back front paw, if you get what I mean. Also, define the shading on the tail.

Reuploaded I do. it's hard to shade shorthair tails :( -- Silverfur   skz  [ 11:56, 12/20/2018 ]

Could you make the stripes not so uniform in width? On the other images, they are very finely jittery and not drawn in a straight stroke, if that makes any sense. Stripes can be hard to match lol Oh and add some more stripes to the hind leg facing us. Up and down instead of horizontal like on the loner. 20:23, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

The haunch needs more stripes.Potato Flakin (talk) 23:00, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid it and made it look way more like the leader. -- Silverfur   skz  [ 10:18, 12/21/2018 ]

Hmm from this angle, judging from the leader, there'd be one or two more stripes on the haunch. Can you also define/sharpen the texture, and double-check that the base is picked from a not-textured pixel? It does seem slightly darker 18:53, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Skywatcher (W) - CBA
I freakin' LOVE Skywatcher and also his ragged pelt was super fun. 18:02, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I really love your tufts here! Can you define his scars a bit more? —

Define the shading on the paws? 23:29, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:20, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Define light on farthest front paw? Malina457 (talk) 04:14, December 20, 2018 (UTC)MAlina

I actually think both paws furthest from us can use some more light, too. 06:01, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Reups. That was probably an accidental result of me defining the shading on the paws oops. 13:34, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

CBA? 01:40, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Gravelpaw (Ki) - CBA
I went for a sharp, fully smudged shading style for this, on purpose. 05:01, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

With this source, I think there’d be a little shading on the lower part of the flank (kit anatomy doesn’t even make sense, so basically just take one of the same source, Birdy’s kit for example, and the flank shading it has up against the > leg on the < side). Very pretty <3 05:15, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Reuploaded. 15:51, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Could you lighten the texture just a tad? It seems too dark here than his other images. 20:19, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Or rather, lower the opacity just a bit. That's what I meant >.< 20:19, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:25, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded again. I reduced it a bit more. 01:52, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

CBA? 15:07, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt W) ~ For Approval
tried to match File:Silverstream.FG-6.png. So all the colors and stripe placements are from that, not the queen. I know I need to fix the head stripe and the leg stripes.

As much as I adore the blue, I do partially think the colours should match between the queen, since the queen is the first in this alt set. —

I was going to say lol if you need the file I have it. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   05:15, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I know the queen is the first image in the set, but the whole point of having this alt is to match the official image. No matter how I color pick from it it's a different shade of blue from the queen. I mean I personally don't have a problem with changing the color but it should match that image. Also, I don't need the file, because it's easy to color pick if I need it.

I can get that, but the queen is the first image in the set and either the queen should be tweaked, or you should match it. (Sorry if that sounds so harsh oh no whoops, not my intention ;;) I think the queen could stand to lean to blue a little bit more myself, but regardless, I think it's fine enough as is. Its had the periwinkle as a base for years for this certain alt image. —

The queen was redone completely because of the longhair base, I think it matchea enough. I mean I don't think it's needed to match 100%. I did my best to match the queen to her appearance in the art. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   05:55, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

I nominated the queen, because I think it won't hurt to make the base bluer to match the official image. If it doesn't pass, I'll change my base color. But I color picked from that image and I couldn't get a color nearly that gray on the queen.

Alrighty, I think the tabby design should still match the queen though unless I'm chagning that too. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   06:27, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

The tabby pattern should be pretty much the same as the queen's.

I think there's more stripes on the legs and tails if I'm remembering correctly. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   06:40, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

You can't just ignore the first image in a set and do your own thing. Then the set will look completely off. The base color either needs to match the queen, or the queen needs to be tweaked to match this (since this base color may be closer to the official art imo.) But I don't think it's right to completely ignore the queen here.. 13:02, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Disregars the stripe comment, if the tweak nomination goes through then I think I'll be able to fix the stripes too. —  Ellie  Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity   13:04, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

I didn't realize there already was a tweak nomination until I saw Mink's comment. It looks like the queen will be tweaked to match the base color you have here. 13:08, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Bone (W) - For Approval
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The scars need to be more reddish. The teeth need to be whitened and the collar looks dull as well. The eye scar should be moved up a little bit, it's higher on the rogue.Potato Flakin (talk) 20:07, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

I honestly think the scars and teeth are fine... —

I agree that they look fine. The ear pink could be defined, though. I really love this 20:13, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I'm a rotten potato here, but when I looked at the rogue and deputy it doesn't match. Shading is covering the lineart on the most noticeable hind leg, and there needs to be less teeth on the collar.Potato Flakin (talk) 20:54, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

I think it matches the rogue fine - all the chararts were done by different artists and Sunjaw's style works fine here. ^^ —

If you think you can do better, Potato, then by all means, go ahead. I'll remove a couple teeth, but bone and teeth yellow with exposure to dirt/blood/sunlight, and I will not change the color of them. <span style="">21:56 Fri Dec 21

I think it's fine, as Sun said with that exposure they would be yellow. Could you define the shading on the legs please, I'm not seeing any there and I think there would be some on the <-- side of both legs. —  Ellie Fear breeds a desire  for simplicity  ''' 22:03, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

My only critique would maybe be expanding the convas by a couple pixels on the bottom so his claws aren't cut off as much. ^^ This is absolutely lovely. —

Silverstream (Alt Ki) - For Approval
That is shading, not texture btw. Matched the warrior but I can redo the pattern to match the queen if I need to. <span style="">15:58 Fri Dec 21

This is lovely, can you darken the leg stripes a bit? I think the stripes may still have to match the queen but I'm not totally sure. 22:34, December 21, 2018 (UTC)