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Susan(KP)-For Approval
Well,Sandy put Sasha CBA few hours ago,so I guess its okay.I used Insane's tutorials..--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:53, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back, the tabby stripes in the shaded area, and the ears. And on the tag, there's a black blob with a line connecting to ghe fur. Erase this, because it shouldn't be there. (I know it's on the lineart, it just needs to be removed). Otherwise, great job! Birchy 10:56, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) IvyHi there!! 11:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Great! There's still that blob on the tag. Any you coloured in the line. Erase them, and this will be great!Birchy 11:16, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes look weird. look at Night shine's tutorial for eyes here Echoheart 11:36, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guysreuploded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:44, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlight on the tail a little bit, then this will be great! M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:29, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'm glad my videos could help :) One thing I'd suggest is blurring the tabby stripes on the head a little more. insan TA STE  THE  RAIN BOW  eu lar  15:49, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

You still haven't fixed the tag. Where it's golden, there's a black blob. Get rid of that, and coming down from it is a line. Get rid of that, the color there and it should be ready! Also, blur the stripes on the tail, near the end. Birchy 17:03, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The color looks really off. It says that Suzan is a light brown tabby. This looks golden, almost yellow-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:08, January 30, 2010 (UTC) REUPLOADEDsorry but ive been busy!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:28, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The head looks flat. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 12:03, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights more. Other than that this is really good! Ice There will only be five heros.... 22:22, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I changed the style.comments?--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 06:03, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

maybe make the eye color a tiny bit lighter and darken the shading. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 17:42, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look very wobbly. I'm assuming you copied the style Shady used for Cody, so try and make the lines a lot smoother ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

reupoloaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:30, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and the shading more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:01, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded..-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 07:25, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

All I can see is that the stripes are still shaky in places - makes her look like her spine is wobbly. Just smooth them out a little and blur a tiny bit. The highlights need blending also. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  12:57, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED!! ≈Ivy -sama≈  03:26, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the left (our right) ear, and then this should be good. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 23:01, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yoopee!! ≈Ivy -sama≈  12:54, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, found one more thing: blur the ear pink a little bit more and make it a tad bit darker. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 19:49, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

FIXED!! ≈Ivy -sama≈  10:55, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

snarls* If nobody comes I'll withdraw this!!-- ≈Ivy -sama≈  06:11, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ivypool, that behavior is unacceptable. Users will comment when they can get on, they all have lives other than this wiki. Somethimes it takes a while, but they will comment. As for your image, make the eyes green (It says she has green on her article) blur the shading on the tail a lot more, blur the ear pink more, and dodge the muzzle-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 06:45, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I echo Night. I think the highlights are still too concentrated too. ✐S  aN  dY  21:29, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry..Re upladed-- ≈Ivy -sama≈  06:58, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the stripes more, especially on the tail. And brighten the highlight on her face-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 22:46, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't blur them, try smudging them. Dark hallows 17:31, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yay!GIMP! reuploaded-- ≈Ivy -sama≈  10:40, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfur (W) for approval
I've been wanting to do another cat, but I've been so busy, I chose a pretty simple one. Besides, he didn't have any charart yet.--Shaf Girl  23:58, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading some and make the earpink more redish. other than that this is good. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:03, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks alright to me, it just needs to be blurred. Dark hallows 00:27, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add highlights. I don't see any--  Night shine   ♥  01:07, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:08, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I always like them better with highlights--  Night shine   ♥  01:33, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made the earpink a little more red and blurred it, and thickened the shading. I'm still working on how to do highlights. Are there any tutorials on them?--Shaf Girl  17:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Look at the apprentice tutorials on the main page. I would link it but I don't know how. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:27, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Warriors Wiki:Charart/Apprentice Tutorials ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  07:07, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl  02:32, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little to big, make it smaller and darker Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:05, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading also needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:03, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl  19:06, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more. This is really good! Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 19:21, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:11, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

The shading and ear pink still need blending. ✐S aN  dY  21:18, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:20, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * All I see is that the earpink is touching the lineart in places. ✐S  aN  dY  22:19, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

The back shading still needs to be blurred more. Dark hallows 17:41, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed the earpink and blurred the back shading more.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  00:44, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

The back still needs some more blurring--  Night shine   ♣  02:28, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

By blurring, do you mean on the outside edge (by the lineart), the inside edge, or all throughout the back shading?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl

<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">03:06, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

The outside edge? I meant the part that is darker than the rest. Where there is a visible line--  Night shine   ♣  03:09, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a tad too bright.-- Dark hallows 15:41, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I did kind of see what you mean, Nightshine, though it just might have looked darker because it was around the highlights. Anyways, I blurred it more and toned down the earpink.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:20, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Heavypaw (A) For Approval
Sorry if I don't remember all of the charart rules, I am new at it. I don't know where the reservation page is. I'm not on the project yet, but I asked to be added at the bottom of the Sharpclaw blank chat thing.

I made this piccy of Heavypaw.



Does this look good? Or should I put his foot back to normal, and keep the leg like that? I made him a little fatter by changing his back, I hope thats okay. His discription said he was thick. -Owlblaze

What did you do to his leg!? It looks like a frog :D. Sign after your message with four of ~. It's good for a first try! I don't think you need to make him fatter.Why do you have two accounts? Owlheart and Owlblaze?--  Night shine   ♥  02:51, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Wait you have three accounts! Oakstar, Owlheart and Owlblaze!--  Night shine   ♥  02:52, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, he has a deformed leg. You need to reserve this and you aren't even part of the project.--  Night shine   ♥  02:53, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, nightfall didn't add me yet. :(. Can you point me to the reservation page? And yeah, lol. I made Owlblaze, forgot the pass. I tried the retreive pass, it didn't work. And when I try and log into Owlheart it freezes up my comp. So I made Oakstar. Its the only one I can log into. -Owlblaze (Oakstar) 03:04, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh okay! You can find the reservation place on the Project Character Art main page.--  Night shine   ♥  03:06, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thank you! I will go make a reservation. Wow, a warrior! May I see some of your charart? -Owlblaze Oakstar 03:09, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I found the reservation part. I am not sure now. It says to just make a new posting here to offer charart. Halp? What do I need to do to reserve him? -Owlblaze Oakstar 03:14, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

What, what the heck? You have three user names? Which one do I put you up as?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:19, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, wait. Never mind. But I think this will have to be declined because you haven't joined yet, and you didn't reserve him.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:21, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, you're now an apprentice, welcome to the PCA! But, I still think this might have to be declined, I'm Sorry!-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:23, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hurrah! Oh, do you think you could put after oakstar: (owlblaze). Because I can't log into that acc, but I love that name. So should I just make a new posting on this page with the piccy again? (I'm not sure how to reserve Heavypaw) **EDIT** Lol forgot siggy -Owlblaze Oakstar 07:08, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

You altered the leg and tail in a funny way. This couldn't be approved. I don't know if it's your computer or you did it, but please don't mess around with the lineart. I know thathe has a deformed leg, but I still don't think this will be approved. Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.10:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Quailflight: It is perfectly acceptable to edit the lineart for the purpose of addig specific characteristics (see Cinderpelt, Oddfoot and Kinkfur). Oakstar: I think by editing the back lineart he looks fat rather than thick-set... perhaps edit that back to the original and try and create the effect with shading instead. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:14, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty good, just add more shading, and maybe erase a little of the top of the deformed leg because it looks like it goes up too far, if you took off a little of how far it goes it might look more natural...? (Do you get what I mean? I know it sounds odd :P) <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

He looks really fat. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:54, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I really like it but the leg is very..... strange. <font color="#0000FF">EcHoPaW  17:08, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hm... I don't think I editted the tail. Do you see anything different? Hm.. Okay, so I added more shading, and fixed the length of the leg, and I also make him a bit more skinny. (He tried Jenny cat, and it worked! :D lol) what do you think now:

Owlblaze Oakstar 06:03, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

You need to erase the line that makes the paw thats usually hidden look round. Sorry if it's not making senc Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:42, February 8, 2010 (UTC)e

It looks as if you completely re-did the lineart for some reason. His back looks very lumpy, his belly looks fat, and, kinda weird-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:58, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thats odd. Here is a comparation below. I circles the parts that I eddited Also, the only reason you can see his back foot more is because bent his other foot down, so you can see behind it. I eddited him a bit (I fixed the belly!) and re-uploaded it:

Sorry for this being too long! -Owlblaze Oakstar 08:14, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

His hind leg looks funny, you're messing with the lineart. Use the apprentice blank, and don't change the lineart. Copy and paste this to pixlr.com or whatever you are using, and then color it in, do the tabby stripes, earpink, and the shading. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:24, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Nightwhisker, it's okay to change the lineart for a special purpose, but I have to say that the leg looks odd. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  23:22, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to redo the leg, then compare them side by side. I will edit in a min or two with the new pic. **EDIT** Here they are:

Old and New (Respectivly):

I think the first one got squished a bit when it uploaded. 0_o.

-Owlblaze Oakstar 02:39, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

I got rid of all the unnecessary images; and Oakstar, you need to just reupload using the same file name. Call your image Heavypaw, and just upload on that name every time you update the image. Bramble 19:30, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Bramble(star?) Sorry. Here, the most improved piccy so far Edit: Removed second image link - see image at top of section ✐S aN  dY  12:00, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

What do you all think? I think that his leg isn't bent/deformed enough now. :/. Do you guys think it bent enough? -Owlblaze Oakstar 04:45, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I actually think his leg looks good now. The ear pink needs to be darker and blended though and the whole pelt looks very messy - make the tabby stripes longer and thinner and more clean-cut. Add some shading and blend it in nicely. ✐S  aN  dY  12:00, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I blended the ear more. I havn't fixed the stripes yet. The elder picture shows the stripes very much like mine, Thick and rounded. Can you give me an example stripe for me to get an idea of what you want? :) -Owlblaze Oakstar 03:05, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

✐S aN  dY  11:04, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Could you move the tail up? It looks attached to the butt :p. Dark hallows 15:54, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Millie (KP)-For Approval
I need to get this approved soon. This might be the only time I get on this week.So, here is Millie. Please don't push me to work to hard. I can only do so much.-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.07:21, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

She's pretty! But I thought she was classic tabby? -checks- Oh, nevermind. The stripes look a little unevenly blurred, though. Dark hallows 09:02, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I tried to blur the stripes more evenly.-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.10:25, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... part of her back line is missing I think, and the stripes on her back (the three little spotish ones) look a little. I dunno. And can you make her stripes lighter? Other then that, its awesome! much better then her piccy in the manga! -Owlblaze Oakstar 10:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the stripe lightening matters, Oakstar. Darkhallows is a senior warrior. He would have told me to make them lighter. Anything else, Project charart? Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.10:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Now Blur the Shading. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 12:06, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Blurred shading. I'm happy now!-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.17:31, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on the body look to thick. Can you thinin it out? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 21:39, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add a few stripes on her soulder and haunch. It looks kinda empty. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:50, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I added stripes on the shoulder and haunches, and thinned out the stripes.Does the tail look okay?-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.06:50, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

The shading and highlights need blending - I can see the transition as a hard line. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:01, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

It looks awesome! I love it! -Owlblaze Oakstar 06:06, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

There needs to be a little more stripes were her tail starts. It looks kinda like she might have lost them! XD Hope you see were I mean! Were the haunches and things are. See if you can dd a few more stripes in. Fawnstorm 16:42, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

This is Quail, i'm too lazy to sign in. I'm going to need a few more days. Please don't decline this unless i'm not on on valentine's day.76.196.235.53 16:58, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Does it look better now? *prays to StarClan, begging to get this approved*-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.06:12, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

I love this!!I'm sorry i can't approve.. ≈Ivy -sama≈  10:47, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  14:25, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Quail, I've just got two more things. Blur the stripes more, and blur the ear pink. Then this will be ready, I promise!-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:09, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I was abaout to have to put the 24 notice on this to be declined, but I decided this is so close to approval that I'd just fix it. Hope you don't mind Quail, but I didn't want this to go to waste. The shading and stripes have been blurred. ✐S  aN  dY  22:34, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Much better :) CBA? LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 22:50, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, sorry, I know I'm the one who put the CBA on this, but I just noticed one more thing. Brighten the highlights on the shoulder, and the haunch Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 20:09, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenfur (A) for approval
hi this is beewing culd u plz approve my brackenpaw? thx

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

The color isnt quite right make him more brown and Make his stripes more distinct if that makes sense. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:39, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... You need ear colour. And Ashshadow's right. Too golden... Lavenderi 22:07, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Also, you always need to sign with the four ~ -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:16, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

He is too yellow. You should work on it or else it will get declined--  Night shine   ♥  02:50, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's only been 4 days. Give her alittle while onger, seeing as she also has a life. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  00:25, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Wait! she allready has one up on the bottem! <font color="FF99FF">Lovepaw <font color="FF33FF">My Talk!  02:00, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenpaw improved!

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is nice but i have to say that this is over the limit, also please look at Brackenfur warrior image. <font color="FF99FF">Lovepaw <font color="FF33FF">My Talk!  01:59, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Beewing, as Echopaw said this is over the limt and you already put him up for approval in another place on this page. You need to use the same thing over again until what you want approved is approved. Please put this is your other Brackenfur (A) for approval. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 02:04, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Moving this to its proper section; Beewing; next time, just upload over the old image with changes, and post in the same section. -- Bramble 02:32, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

how about now?

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

He still looks pretty yellow. His warrior image is more brown -

And also, please sign with the four ~ -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:01, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

How about this? and nightfall what do u mean by signing with the four?

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that's much better. And I mean type four of these ~ after whatever you've typed. If you do that, your siggie will show up after whatever you've typed. (Or click the siggie button on the edit bar)-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:34, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

ok, but i dont have a siggie well nightshine made 1 for me but i'm not sure how to make it appear on my posts even if i do type four ~'s but is brackenpaw approved?

Not yet. He looks too redish now and his earpink is too pink. Also reupload images over the same file name. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 01:27, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

OMG. I love it! Thats very much how a imagine Brakenfur (I didn't know he was tabby though)! I just said it near the beginning of this post bit, but I love it! -Owlblaze Oakstar 09:32, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ashshadow has said it all. And Owlblaze, I'm not getting on to you at all, I just wanted to tell you that whenever you leave a comment on someone's charart, be sure to leave some critique too. It makes everyone feel good when someone says they love their work, but they also need to know how to improve it. Again, I'm not getting on to you :) -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 17:55, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

OK. Well, I would change the stripe a bit on his head that looks like an eyebrow. It matches the warrior piccy, but in my opinion, it looks kinda.... odd. Just my opinion though. -Owlblaze Oakstar 04:30, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, how about this time?

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Beewing i removed the ones that or not for approval and put the newly done one up there. <font color="OO66OO">Echo Rocks! <font color="OO33FF">My Talk!  19:05, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded 

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 21:29, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This looks much better. Just make the ear pink more of a reddish color, and then it should be good. Also, upload on the same file name instead of uploading on a new name each time, it helps to save space on the wiki. -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 22:16, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 22:46, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

There's a white pixel on the hind leg farthest from us LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 05:01, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

the earpink color still bothers me. Make it more of a reddish color. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:45, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sorreltail (A) -for approval
Well here is my first tortie. tell me how bad it is. Charm Paw  21:55, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't bad at all! But the tortoiseshell patches aren't like her warrior image. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 21:59, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is really beautiful Charmpaw!! All I see is maybe add either more shading or highlights.

22:02, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The white part on the tail should be on the inside.--  Night shine   ♥  22:04, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Maple. Make the patches more like one her warrior's image.

22:05, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I would say just add some more black. The patches wouldn't be exactly the same on both sides of the cat. it's your call though. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:09, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Eekkk, i hate it. is this any better? Charm Paw  23:41, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, this is coming along very well! But the ear pink is a little hard to see, perhaps find a way to define it more? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:44, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yep just darken the ear pink a bit--  Night shine   ♥  02:49, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

It needs to look more like her warrior image which is show above. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:17, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

How do I define it Charm  Paw  21:18, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what they mean by "define it" but the major difference I see between her warrior image and yours is that the shading on the warrior's image makes it pop-out and 3-D looking. Maybe darken the shading then? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:44, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

To define the ear pink, make it a little brighter and contrasting with her pelt color, then blur it. Also, like Moss said, add a lot more shading, because I can't really see any- I agree with Ashshadow though that the patches don't have to match since it's her other side. -slow realization that when I've been making apprentice images for warriors I've done just that without realizing- <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:46, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? Charm Paw  00:24, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading just a little bit more. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:54, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * The ear pink is very pale, almost baby-pink. Make it darker and a little more reddish. ✐S  aN  dY  12:08, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 20:05, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

She is away for two days She forgot to tell you Angel  Paw  21:09, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

I have her image. should I post It for her Angel  Paw  21:09, February 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * If that's okay with her then go ahead. ✐S  aN  dY  22:36, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Patch (KP) For Approval
Here's Patch. I used Mousetalon's Tutorial for the shading, and used another approved image for the eyes. Constructments? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr!

This is good! Make the ear pink smaller and blur the patches on the tail some more--  Night shine   ♥  22:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 23:39, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

What? When was Patch a kittypet? He was a rogue, then a warrior of SkyClan. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:54, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is patch from Tigerstar and Sasha. This is really good Nightwhisker. Maybe darken the nose a little bit. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:59, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - The eyes look very pixelated. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 01:53, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! *face palm* Sorry Nightwhisker, I completely fogot about him! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:07, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad my tutorials helped! Maybe blur the black patch on the head more. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  16:43, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this ok? I tried to fix the eyes, but I don't know if they're ok now... -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:32, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs blending. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:57, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

He's nice! Blur the shading on the collar, and as Mosswhisker said, the eyes look very pixelated. Make the different colours of the eye pixels more similar. Also, I see a patch on the left haunch (the one we can't see) that is completely white, while the rest of the white fur is gray. Darken the shading there. I love your patches, maybe add one or two more to the top of the tail and the tail-tip? It's not nessicary, though; this is very good! B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  21:13, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Aside from what Bluestar said, all I can see is that there's an odd patch of gray on the top of his right (for us) haunch. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:15, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Patch's image in the manga doesn't look like this- he was black and had a white belly, paws, and tail-tip. I have the book. Rain whisker  22:30, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes look kinda dark, you have to cncentrate on them to find the pupils, and they stad out a lot. Maybe brighten them a tad? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:30, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ok Rainwhisker, then should I start over? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:45, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Don't start over, just make the eyes a lighter shade of green. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ 

No, about the problem of him being black with a white underbelly, paws, and and tail-tip, i can fix the eyes... -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:51, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, only because we have an actual picture reference. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:04, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry about that. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  00:22, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

The transition from white and black needs to be blurred as well as the ear pink also I dont see any shading. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 01:07, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * In addiion to Ash's comment, the ear pink needs blending and the eyes look a little dark ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  14:41, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur in his white points! XD! Fawnstorm 16:39, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Add highlights and blur the transitions. Also, the ear pink looks a bit wonky, if you could blur that and make it neater. XD Mistyheart 14:52, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea what wonky means, so I tried to fix the earpink the best I could. Reuploaded. Is this better? -- Luck whisker I can feel the clouds beneath my paws!!15:09, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading some more. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:37, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Better? -- Nighty Meh kitteh is hoplessley confused... 18:18, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a bit strange, like the overall shape of it. Try filling in that little chunk of black with pink. (I'll make a diagram if you need me too)-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 22:58, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better Night? -- Nighty Meh kitteh is hoplessley confused... 20:14, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yep :) But his pelt looks kinda purpleish, especially on his face. I'd run the burn tool over all the black parts of his body a few times-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 20:17, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Purplish How? And I can't seem to fix it on pixlr... can you help me Nightfall?-- Nighty Meh kitteh is hoplessley confused... 21:25, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry Night. No that I'am on a different computer, it looks fine. But darken the shading more on the face, and lighten the eyes-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 23:54, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if the changes are showing up? But is this better? -- Nighty Meh kitteh is hoplessley confused... 18:42, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I was reading Escape from the forest, and I noticed that the white part of his belly stretches up to his face. I'll see if I can find you an image online... Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 01:33, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I couldn't find one online. But the white stretches up to his face like Leafpool's does Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 01:41, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? -- Nighty Meh kitteh is hoplessley confused... 00:14, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Jake (KP) - For Approval


(M) - ''This should be under the limit seeing as two of the sections are disscussions. If it's over you can take it down.''

Jake is both Scourge's (My favorite cat!) and our famous Firestar's father. What more could you ask for?

Gah this took forever to do! *dies*

Anyways, constructive critisism? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 02:00, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Strange, this isn't how I pictured him. I thought he'd look more like Firestar, since he's his father... But for this image, darken the ear pink. It's really good though! B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  02:17, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

He should be more gingery. The markings on his tail and forehead look strange.--  Night shine   ♥  02:19, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightshine, he looks to cream colored. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:06, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

His pelt looks cream, make it a ginger color. Also, he markings do look odd/strange. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  20:34, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

He looks peachy and cream, like said above, and I thought he was a solid ginger. The tabby stripes looks real cool but I didn't think he had stripes. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  13:59, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. Yay for snow days! I changed the pelt color, eyes, ear pink, and the shading and highlihgts. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:32, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's great! Make the ear pink more reddish--  Night shine   ♥  22:44, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. Fixed ear pink. Is it better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:05, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Amazing, as always, Mosswhisker! The only thing is that the artist of the blanks said that the right ear (for us, left ear for the cat) is turned away so that ear doesn't need ear pink. Seriously though... it's awesome! <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:31, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

He is Firestar;s father, maybe you could make him a bit firey color? Wetty What do you mean they only had 31 flavors?! 00:02, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is AMAZING! Get rid of the ear pink on his left ear and this will be perfect. XD Mistyheart 14:48, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. Removed ear pink from our right ear. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 02:11, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

How do you do that kind of fur? It's amazing! Anyways, he seems a little. . . bright. Maybe dull the color a bit. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  21:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the fur a tad. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 17:14, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. I desaturated the fur. Icestorm, I didn't blur the fur because I used the same texture as I did on Snowstar. Anything else that needs fixed? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:56, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Are his eyes that color? I may be wrong, but aren't they green? I'm probably wrong. I just pictured them green since he's Firestar's father. I'm usually wrong though. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 22:16, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I pictured them green too, but if there isn't a reference, then we can't really assume that LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 22:51, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

There is a dary grayish spot on his shoulder and the base of his tail. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:28, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (W)- For Approval
Okay, so there's 36 topics but two of them are unrelated, so this is technically the 35th topic :3 But you can take it down if it's over, somehow. Here's Goldenflower as a warrior, with nicked ear and all. Is she a tad shiny? I've just looked at her elder and queen

images and realised that she's quite pale on those... Comments? Brightfrost 17:16, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is very good, just blur the shading on her back more. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  12:04, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tried to blur the back shading as much as I could. And thanks :D Brightfrost 17:16, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is great!!! Try and blur the shading under her chin a bit more - I can't see anyhting else that needs improving. :D Mistyheart 17:21, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, blurred the chin shading a bit more :) Thanks Misty! Brightfrost 18:27, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

It's the other ear thats nicked in her elder picture. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:25, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Very nice! Just blur the shading on the haunch, back, chest and forehead, and blur all of the highlights a smidge. Darken and blur the ear pink, and, as Ashshadow said, it's the other ear that's nicked in the elder image. This is very good! B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  21:10, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Just blur the ear pink and shading some more.--  Night shine   ♥  02:45, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tried to fix the shading and the ear pink but the ear looks a bit.. yeah. And I'm pretty sure it's not her other ear nicked in the elder image:

Surely if she's facing the opposite way in this, then in the warrior image her nicked ear will be the 'front' ear? Thank you for your comments :) Brightfrost 07:40, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Brightfrost is right, the ear nick is the right way round because it's on the back ear when Goldenflower is facing this way > in her elder image, si it must be on the front ear when she is facing this way < in her warrior image. Now for comments: brilliant, but maybe blur the shading on her back some more. :) 86.178.230.33 16:13, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Brightfrost! I LOVE Goldenflower! Yeah her ear is on the correct side! XD I love the ear to! But try and delete the little black bit that goes onto the ear pink! Also the ear pink looks a bit far down the ear! Love it though! XD Fawnstorm 16:36, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yea sorry about the ear i saw a mirror image of the elder image. The earpink is oddly shaped. Try making it more centered. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:22, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, fixed the ear. Not sure about the back shading, it's giving me some grief. -sigh- Anyways, comments? Brightfrost 07:52, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the fur darker so it looks like her elder image? Evanphoto 13:01, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all of the shading and highlights. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:10, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Repeating above, and also, the ear pink looks dark. Can you lighten it to look more like her elder version? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:39, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Darkened the ear pink and blurred a bit- any better? And by the way, I was made a lovely siggy (it's on my talk page) but I'm unsure on how to use it as my siggy, exactly ;3 Brightfrost 16:47, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight on her haunch looks too bright. Darken and blur it a bit. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 17:02, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Having a bit of a problem darkening the haunch highlight, I've tried burning over the top of it but it makes it look a tad green, like this:

Her highlight is now green.... ✐S aN  dY  19:03, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I mean, I'm trying to darken that highlight but it goes green. It's a separate file though, I haven't saved over the current picture. (At the top) I was just showing everyone what it looks like when I try and darken it. -kicks stupid haunch- Why do you have to be so bright? D: Brightfrost 19:15, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

We've decided to not reserve characters that have not been shown in books yet, and that goes for ranks too. It wouldn't be fair. LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 00:46, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if you used the dodge tool to create the highlight then using the burn tool should reverse this. If it really won't work, paint over it and do it again. ✐S aN  dY  11:42, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

I like it, but the highlights are green :( Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:17, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

They're not, that's just an example of what happens when I use burn to try and darken the stupid highlights. -kicks haunch again- Brightfrost 13:20, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-tried to completely redo that annoying haunch. Any better? Does it still need to go a tad darker? Brightfrost 13:30, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is good Frosty! But the Shding on her head is really dark! Could you sort it out? XD! No offence! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 13:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded! '''Lightened the head shading a bit as well as the haunch, just a tad. Hehe, no problem Fawny ^^ Thanks for telling me. Love the sig, by the way! Someone made me a lovely one but I'm unsure on how to get the coding from that and use it as my sig :3 Brightfrost 22:03, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 17:13, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

again this is good but she still looks a little green. XD! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 10:05, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * The shading needs blending a little. ✐S  aN  dY  11:59, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, tried to blend the shading a little more, though I must say it hasn't made much of a difference to my eyes x3 ^^, Brightfrost  of SunClan...  19:01, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

The shading seems a bit dark. Lighten it a little if you can. Haikage Ash's Talk 02:58, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I've had a go at lightening the shading, but it looks a bit...dodgy, and the shading is quite dark in contrast to the pale ginger on the elder image. :/ Brightfrost  of SunClan...  20:14, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Socks (KP)-For Approval
Here's Ruby's littermate, Socks! He needs some work...comments? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  13:56, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, do we even need him as a kittypet? We have him as a kit with a collar, but we never saw him as a kittypet older than six moons. Just asking so if I'm wrong please don't get mad. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:06, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

When I had my Ruby (KP) up for approval, this was brought up, and other people said that yes, we would need kittypet images for them. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  14:08, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for not getting made at me :) On the image, I can't see anything wrong. P.S who here loves the snow day? M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:19, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

(For the record, I'm loving this snow day! We get off tomorrow and Friday too! And Monday! A six-day weekend!) Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:29, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and the tag is the same color as his collar. Make it yellow, like on his kit image-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:21, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened shading, yellowified tag (if that's a word...) Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:34, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's great, Moss. :) Now, darken the shading more then blur it. Ice <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines!  01:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I might have made it worse on the leg...whenever I blur it, it gets bigger and darker...suggestions? P.S. I won't be here during this weekend, maybe on Sunday night, when I'm getting back from my reterat :) So I'm pretty much signing off here on this image. Vancou verpath  §USA!§ 23:21, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Patchpelt (W)- for Approval
Take him down if he's over the limit, but I don't think he is. I think he's one of my better ones.Echoheart 11:45, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

The patches on his back and chest don't look much like the ones on his elder image...well they do, except on here they look very much connected, whereas his elder picture's ones are a little less touching...does that make any sense? Also, you might want to add a patch on his front leg...one the elder image you wouldn't see it if it was there. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:38, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hello Echoheart! This is really good! There is a little grey smudge thingy on the patch that covers his face. It might just be me but if you can see it then I knoww I'm not going blind like Jayfeather! XD! Fawnstorm 16:48, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs blending and I can't see much shading. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:06, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is there anything else? Echoheart 20:40, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink lighter like his elder image-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:30, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

...Don't know if you saw my comment above there ;) Heartpath  Love, Jaggedclaw!  01:50, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

About your comment Mosspelt, which front leg? And about the image, it's reuploaded. Echoheart 11:52, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd say the front leg closest to us. The patches all need blurring a little more and the shading isn't visible on the white areas. ✐S  aN  dY  11:40, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Echoheart 19:06, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the patches (do not smudge them out just smudge the patches) then blur them more. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 17:12, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. How about this? Echoheart 11:39, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Rose (KP) -For Approval
Well, tell me how bad this is. Angel Paw  11:58, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

It's not bad at all! Fill in the white pixel (on her neck), and blur the highlights. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 13:07, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is beatiful! <font color="FF99FF">Lovepaw <font color="FF33FF">My Talk!  13:45, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

It's very nice! Well done! Just fill that white pixel. Wetty What do you mean they only had 31 flavors?! 14:29, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! However, the markings on the front and back legs are way different in length. Shorten and blur the front leg markings (http://chinkisiamese.com/siamese_cats_chelsea.jpg) Dark hallows 06:03, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Um the markings are similar to the markings on Lily but I will fix the white pixel tomorrow. Angel Paw  21:58, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights then blur them. (Or you could smudge them out then blur them, I call that the Fuzzy Efect. XD) <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 17:09, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights need to be a bit bigger. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:18, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Angel Paw  13:12, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the left part of her back some more--  Night shine   ♥  17:46, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe bring the dark bits on the hind legs up a bit. If she stood up then only her back paws would be brown. <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 16:55, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Clovertail (R) - for approval


Wow, its been 2 months I think since I've done an image, so the image is probably not that good. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 20:03, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This isnt bad. I would make the white on her front legs go up higher and darken the earpink. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 21:17, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the background pink?-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 19:12, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Pink? I don't know, its white on my computer/gimp. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 21:14, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

It's a very light pink. I can make it transparent if you want. Dark hallows 23:23, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: And yes, could you do that for me Shady? <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 20:49, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

The white on the front legs still needs to be a little higher and the white underbelly should go up a little faurther. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:30, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Since Shady's not on I could make the background transparent if you want. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 16:41, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I made the white go higher on her front legs, but I didn't on her belly because if Idid, wouldn't it go on her side? <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 23:03, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

It should go higher on her chest, like her queen image - -- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 00:19, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Hows this? ♣Gaelic Irish♣

I like it. just blur the shading on her back some more. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:51, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

And she looks a tad gingerish compared to her queen image. Maybe desaturate her a bit? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 01:40, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

How would I do that? ♣Gaelic Irish♣  05:06, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

If you use pixlr, use the sponge tool set to desaturate. Haikage Ash's Talk 05:09, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

She looks a bit chestnut in this image but in her queen image, she looks browner (^ see above) ^^ <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 16:59, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (Ki) - for approval


OMG he stinks... M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 19:09, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Can you bring the white chest up some and maybe anke it a tiny bit thicker. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 19:11, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * The white chest should extend upwards more and make a kind of circularish patch. ✐S  aN  dY  20:05, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

And make his eyes more icy blue. They look a bit dark-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 22:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Better? M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 04:49, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller and make it more reddish (the ear pink). Rain whisker  18:40, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, Minnow, the only thing I see is that his white chest is a bit uneven. (Or did you mean to do it that way?) I'd say make it a little more symmetrical. <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 04:36, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Better? M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 01:20, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderheart (A)- For Approval


This is Cinderheart as an apprentice for approval. I've been working on it with Minnowclaw (my mentor) for awhile now and I'd love for all sorts of comments. Thanks! Spottedheart <font color=Magenta style=background:Purple>Happy Valentine’s Day! 17:53, February 15 2010 (UTC)

Run the brush tool over the tabby stropes then blur, darken shading then blur, fix the eye and blurred lineart. Then do the eye like here Ice  storm  17:56, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Cover the little strip of fur not shaded on the back.-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  20:17, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This looks a bit small and is also the 36th image. NVM Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:23, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Really beautiful Spotty!! Just do what all teh other users said and maybe blur teh ear pink a bit more. Other than that I love it!

21:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add eye white, and she doesn't have a white underbelly, it's gray-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 22:15, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't the right size it should be. It looks too blurry--  Night shine   ♥  22:39, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's thumbnail sized. And it does look blurry. ♪  B  a  t   ♫  01:02, February 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * [[File:Apprenticelongf.gif]] Save this to your computer and redo the image in the full size. Be really careful not to blur the lineart. ✐S  aN  dY  15:45, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sandy's right. But, this image looks very familiar. And I mean, really familiar..... -- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 04:27, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

It probably looks familiar because Spottedhead put it up before. Haikage Ash's Talk 11:36, February 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * face palm* Man I'm such an idiot-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 19:52, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this soon or it will be declined. -- Bramble 17:28, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Quince (Q)- For Approval
I hope I'm not going over the image limit cuz if I am I'll take it down and put it up later. Well, here she is. How is she? -- Luckflight Kiss Me I'm Irish 23:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is over the limit. There are two discussions.--  Night shine   ♥  23:26, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

There are three discussions up so this in within the limit. Blur the shading and highlights more. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:38, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink darker. And add shading to the ear and paw that's not facing us. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 23:43, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Whoops I didn't see that. Blur the highlights and shading.--  Night shine   ♥  23:54, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: How's this? -- Luckflight Kiss Me I'm Irish 00:08, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks magenta. Also, Blur the highlights and shading more. But this is good for your first one! Maplefern Carrying the torch... 20:52, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I redid the shading and highlights. Earpink too. This good? -- Luckflight Kiss Me I'm Irish 22:19, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

She should have a collar LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 00:21, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights more. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 17:07, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Her right arm seems too dark. Lighten it a bit--  Night shine   ♥  23:05, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I fixed the shading, highlights and arm. I'm having trouble with the collar. Any tips on how to make it on pixlr? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 22:33, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I suggust making the collar in paint then coloring it in pixlr. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:44, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think it'd be easier to do it all in pixlr, but of course it's your choice. If you do it in pixlr just take the pencil tool on 1 or 2 pixel size, and just... draw the collar. X3 <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 04:35, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Diesel (KP) ~ For Approval


I liked how he turned out. ^-^ Comments? -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 23:55, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Really nice :) Just remove the earpink from the right ear (it's facing away from us, so it doesn't need pink), and the pupils look a bit odd. I really like the stripes, though! <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 23:56, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! Blur the shading a little bit. And fix the ear pink as Insane said. The eyes are cool!--  Night shine   ♥  23:59, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

His stripes are wicked cool. The right eye looks a little strange thought but really good job otherwise :) -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 01:15, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

This is just in my opinoin but make his pelt lighter. <font color="OO66OO">Echo Rocks! <font color="OO33FF">My Talk!  00:02, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, I really like his pelt color. The only thing I see is that the ear pink should be removed from the right ear-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 01:47, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ok. ARG!!! I'M REALLY DUMB NOW! Dx I THOUGHT HE WAS DELETED! Can someone delete the double post? I've lost my MIND xP  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 23:09, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I deleted the second one--  Night shine   ♥  23:17, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, night. ^-^  GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 23:53, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brindleface (A) - For Approval
I know this is over the limit but there are three discussions and this should be 35. I got GIMP! :D Comments on my fail on Brindlepaw? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 00:29, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

i am sorry but i dont know why it put 2 DarthGuy 00:29, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

and if u awnser my questions could u please do so on my userpage. thank u :) --DarthGuy 00:32, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darthguy please don't post so many topics! For the image. Make the ear pink a little more pinkish and bigger. Darken the shading--  Night shine   ♥  00:35, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Fill in the two white pixels on the two back legs.-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  00:43, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Her stripes seem a tad thick. Thin them a bit. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:45, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''<font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 00:49, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

You should check out Brindleface's other charart's and who made them and where they made them. Cause who's ever currently trying to make Brindleface's queen, had gone to several art sites! ♣Silver thistle  00:59, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean Silverthistle? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 01:00, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add some speckles to her, like on her warrior pic. <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 01:05, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

What I meant was too go and ask Nightshine (who made her as queen!) and ask what sites she used to make the brindle (speckle's) on her charart. Dose that explain it? *smiles* ♣Silver  thistle  01:11, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Yes and I know what sites she used. She used MS Paint and GIMP. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 01:18, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

The specks need to be all over the body. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:37, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * This really doesn't look much like her other images - you picked a challenge here Ice =) I think you need to open this image and the one your copying from side by side and get the exact colours, shapes of the stripes and positions of the speckles. It will take a while, but the results will be worth it. ✐S  aN  dY  11:49, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Right, which one do you like better? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 19:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Based on consistency, the one on the left with the darker stripes, although they need to be thinner and more frequent, and more speckles are needed. ✐S  aN  dY  19:48, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'm keeping the one with thinner stripes up, and I'll add them in a sec. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 19:55, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 20:13, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on the top of her head some more--  Night shine   ♥  22:48, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 00:32, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

It looks really pretty Ice! It seems a little bit light though. Maybe run the burn tool over it a few times? Just for consistency, since both of Brindleface's images are pretty dark-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 01:04, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

What is light? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 01:09, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. If you mean the image then I fixed it. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 01:19, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just meant her pelt. It looks better now :) But blur the highlight on her face more -- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 01:42, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? :D <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 02:16, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

If you can blur the specks some more. Haikage Ash's Talk 12:24, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I can't. I tried to but it didn't work. I hate you Pixlr. *grabs a torch* <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 23:44, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Ash, I'm going to give Pixlr a lesson once and for all. *goes to war with Pixlr* <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 01:06, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

The markings look a lot better to me, at least :) The ear pink looks kinda grayish purple though, can you make it lighter and/or brighter? <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 04:33, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I got the color from her warrior image. Should I lighten/brighten it? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 15:49, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

No, change it entirely and get the color from the queen image. (the ear pink) -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 23:55, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' I don't feel good... <font color="Lime" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:green">Saint Ice 22:27, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

There is a stripe in her middle area that looks kind of thick. Can you thin it out a bit?-  Night shine   ♣  01:31, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Wha stripe? If your talking about the one on the hauch, I made it because it was on her warrior image.  Saint Ice   ♣  01:33, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I guess you don't need to change it. It seems thick to me though--  Night shine   ♣  01:39, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Poppyfrost (ki)--For Approval
Here is Poppyfrost! As a kit! My first kit, actually. Comments? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 13:39, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't see much shading. ✐S  aN  dY  14:20, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Are the changes showing up? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 16:12, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur thr patches on her head/face some more. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:42, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred patches on face. Comments? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 23:03, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a tad bigger and blur the ginger near the bottom on her left paw--  Night shine   ♥  23:13, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Made ear pink bigger and blurred ginger. Anything else? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 23:26, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm now the ear pink is too dark. Can you lighten it?--  Night shine   ♥  23:28, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - like that? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 23:49, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the eyes more of a bright blue, they look a little too dark-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 23:52, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - brightened eye colour. Anything else? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 23:59, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still too dark--  Night shine   ♥  02:06, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I made it the same colour as Well, roughly. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 12:31, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well the ears on kits are so small that you have to change the color a bit. Thats what happened when I made goldenflower as a kit so I suggest that you made it a tad lighter. Haikage Ash's Talk 12:34, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - ta-da! Comments? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 15:18, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Better, just make it a tad bigger. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:02, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - made earpink bigger. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 21:50, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Snapper (R) - For Approval
hes done it took me a long time but he is done Iceyfang 17:35, February 18, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

You need to get the rouge blank again, and click on the blank so it makes it full size, then you need to blur the scars and earpink and make the scars and earpink darker. also, color in his eye, and add shading and highlights. (highlights are optional though...) Sorry about my speeling XD -- Nighty Meh kitteh is hoplessley confused... 17:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, do everything that Nightwhisker said. But, didn't Hiddensun have this reserved?-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 22:41, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think she did but she isn't on the table anymore. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:31, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Huh, that's odd. But Iceyfang, you totally messed up the lineart. There is a big chunk missing out of his head, his eye and whiskers are all, blobbish, and scars are not that color. Scars are acually pretty subtle. And yes, Nighthwhisker's right. I think you're gonna have to re-do it again since you colored the thumbnail size instead of the full size, sorry LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 04:25, February 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hiddensun may have had her reserved but I removed a load of projects that had been up for too long or didn't have dates etc ✐S  aN  dY  20:45, February 19, 2010 (UTC) have b

She doesn't have to redo, I resized it.

 Dark hallows 14:34, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

where his ear is there is no pink, there is some next to it. -- ♥Shine star♥  20:29, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

i did the ear pink Iceyfang 01:06, February 21, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

But it's not even in the ear. It's right under it. You need to darken it, and make it higher. And by the way, I don't have Shattered Peace, but I've read it, and we have a picture reference for Snapper (although I don't remember what he looks like in the book) Just making sure, but does this look like him? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 01:37, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

fixed i also added the torn ear Iceyfang 01:51, February 21, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

It still looks too pink. Make it more of a red pink, not pink red. The scars are too pink, look at Yellowfang for scar color reference. -

Also, the head color looks weird, blur where it connects with the neck Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 01:56, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

From what I saw in the browse inside, snapper has a white face, underbelly, and tail. His legs weren't white. Haikage Ash's Talk 02:02, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

fixed Iceyfang 02:21, February 21, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

The lineart on his head is missing, you need to blur the ear pink, and I seriously think you did something to the eye... Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 20:05, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Don't make his whole head white just his face. He doesn't really look like a tortoiseshell.--  Night shine   ♣  23:42, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

He is supposed to be a calico, not a tortie... look at the book. Dark hallows 11:41, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have any of the manga/haven't read any.:( But aren't calico and tortie the same thing?--  Night shine   ♣  01:28, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Calico is the same as tortoiseshell and white, but it's not the same as jsut tortoiseshell. Tortoisshell is the dark pelt with ginger markings, and tortoiseshell and white is usually white with ginger and black markings along their back and side. I agree though, this doesn't really look tortoiseshell and white to me Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 03:05, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

They aren't the same thing... or, well it depends on where you live. But this http://static.gotpetsonline.com/pictures-gallery/cat-pictures-breeders-kittens-rescue/calico-pictures-breeders-kittens-rescue/pictures/calico-0107.jpg is a calico, this is a tortioseshell http://www.petrefuge.com/Cats%20Tina/Tortie%20Natasha%20on%20sink%20Jan%2008.jpg Dark hallows 00:30, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I remember Viki saying something about calicos and tortoiseshells not being the same if you lived in the UK, on a chat. Either way, this doesn't really look like a tortoiseshell and white, or a calico Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 01:09, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Rowanclaw (A) - For Approval
I asked Nightfall for her opinion and she helped me decide to put the second image up for approval, but then I thought and decided that I wanted to second-check with everyone else of which image I should put up for approval to have it look like his warrior image but at the same time be more ginger like his description says. There's onte discussion, so this shouldn't be over the limit, but if it is I'll take it down. Comments, suggestions, and opinions? (The shading is blurred on the individual images on my laptop for when I upload it to one image after I decide which one to keep up.) -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 22:35, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

I say, the first one, for consistency, as we did with Dawnpelt's warrior image. It'd be nice to have one of the more ginger ones as an alternate version, though... <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 22:37, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

I like the middle one. The first one reminds me too much of Lionheart. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:39, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

I like the third one because it's a nice vibrant colour but as for Rowanclaw I guess the second one would be best--  Night shine   ♥  22:40, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

I would have to go with the 3rd one. The first one is too brown, middle one two light brown, and the third one perfect yellowy golden brown! ♣Silver thistle  04:02, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

I would have to say the 1st one... -- Nighty Meh kitteh is hoplessley confused... 22:50, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm....let's compared them to his warrior image, shall we?

From what I see, the first one looks the most like his warrior image, but the second is okay. The third's colour is too strong. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 17:19, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ah! So many diferent opinions! I decided that I like Insane's idea the best: she had a very good explanation. So, now that I've decided to keep the first one up, comments and suggestions? -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 21:14, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading some more. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:41, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yay~ Blur the stripes more so they blend with his pelt, like his warrior image, and also make the ear pink lighter like his warrior image. Really nice image ^^ <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 22:13, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't make the ear pink the same color as the warrior version because I think that the ear pink is too light on the warrior version, but I did lighten it a little bit. Is this any better? -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 18:16, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

This looks fine to me :) CBA? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 10:10, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hutch- For Approval
Hopefully this isn't over the limit. i wanted to get him up before someone made a warrior image for him. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:46, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's great! Can you add more highlight to it? The ear pink is too dark--  Night shine   ♥  23:51, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Lightened the earpink. Nightshine, highlights are optional and I chose not to add them. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:02, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well then can you darken the shading? I don't really see any--  Night shine   ♥  00:04, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Thats a can-do. D'''arkened the shading. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:27, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Can you darken the stripes? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 00:57, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the collar. ♪  B  a  t   ♫  01:05, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. D'''arkened stripes and collar shading. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:29, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (W)-For Approval
Here she is! I know she dosen't look much like her Medicine Cat image but I'll happily improve it! Her eyes are copied directly off her medicince cat image and her scars are in the same places (thanks for your advice on that topic guys!). The Featherstar thing is a disscusion thingy so this is the 35th image. Comments? <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 14:19, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I actually think that this is the 36th image. If it's not you should lighten her pelt a little. Haikage Ash's Talk 14:37, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I got the colour from her Medicine Cat image. And Timberfur has got CBA so shall I keep it on or take it of? <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 14:59, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well I would say take it off because as far as I can tell Bramble doesn't want more than 35 images on the page( the message at the top of the page). I'm not really sure though. Haikage Ash's Talk 15:03, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ruby's got CBA as well, so I'd think it could stay. Image-wise, the eye is freaking me out, and you need to darken the ear pink/scars and blend the highlights more. ♪  B  a  t   ♫  15:13, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

There are a good amout of images that would be taken off later today, i'm just going by the notice. It's not my call so image-wise there is a white pixel on her chest. Haikage Ash's Talk 15:16, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Ashshadow, Fawnstorm's right. The Featherstar section is a discussion, so this should be kept. Also, Swiftpelt withdrew Tallpoppy, so this technically is the 34th image. Anyway, I think her pelt could be lighter, as she is dark gray. You can take the pelt colors from the medicine cat version. Rain whisker  16:19, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I took the pelt colour from her Medicine Cat image though and her eyes to. <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 16:25, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred her ear and scars but didn't change the eyes. It was like that on the med cat image. I took the pelt colour from that as well. I know she's a dark grey cat (fave) but I did get it from on there. <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 16:31, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

To Rainwhisker: Ruby was archived and approved after I made that comment. The earpink is rectangular make it a bit more triangular. Haikage Ash's Talk 17:56, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Fawny! ^^ To get the darker grey colour, maybe add some more highlights on the body, tail and face, like on the med cat image? And then smudge the body ones together if need be. The tail highlights look great on black cats if they're used like on the med cat image. I love the scars! ^^ Brightfrost  of SunClan...  19:12, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

She still looks very black to me, lighten the pelt more Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 22:17, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Voletooth (E) For Approval
Comments? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 23:54, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

It's great!! Blur the shading some more--  Night shine   ♣  23:55, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks! Blurred it as much as I could Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 00:13, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken the stripes like on his warrior image.--  Night shine   ♣  00:27, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the highlight on the face more. This is great. (: ♪   B  a  t   ♫  00:28, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Stripes have been darkened, and highlight has been blurred :) Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 00:54,

February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks very good great job! Moonpelt1786 04:46, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Moonpelt! Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 08:43, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

The haunch is a little bare. Add a stripe, maybe? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 12:25, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkheart (W)-For Approval


Well, here's my first Charart.I had some trouble with the ear pink and highlighting but other than that I think it looks pretty good.Well you can go ahead and tell me how horrible it looks but,since this is my first charart I think it looks pretty good.I used Nightshine's tutorials and Bluestar's tutorials to learn how to do everything so I'd like to thank them. Flamewolf15 00:11, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Err, where is it? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 00:13, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Did you upload the file and need help linking it, or have you not uploaded it yet? -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 00:20, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I inserted the image for you--  Night shine   ♣  00:24, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is good for your first image but the lineart is thin in some places and you need to blur the shading. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:38, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well,I edited it and reuploaded it, but I can't figure out how to insert it into my post. Flamewolf15 01:01, February 22, 2010 (UTC)Well when you edit the section there is an option at the top that allows you to add images to the page. also reupload with the same image name. It saves space on the wiki. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:04, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I inserted it again--  Night shine   ♣  01:05, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to Nightshine for inserting the image.I thickened the line art in some places and tried to blur the shadowing some more.It'd help if you told specific areas that need blurring. Flamewolf15 01:09, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thats because it all needed blurring. The lineart is still thin mostly on the chest, I could fix it if you'd like. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:14, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I thickened the line art on the chest and between the hanch and the front leg I also blurred everything again and it seems that no matter how many times I try to upload an image it never shows up.  Flamewolf  03:32, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I inserted the file for you. Next time dont take it off the page, just click on it and then upload a new version. Haikage Ash's Talk 11:40, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay,well is there any other lineart that needs to be thicker?Is there anymore blurring I need to do?And is there anything else that needs improvement or does he look fine the way he is?  Flamewolf  21:54, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart needs to look like this:. The shading on the back is still too thick and I don't see much shading anywhere else. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:11, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded:Is this any better?The shading on the back is darking than the rest because he's facing toward the light source and because that's the way it looked after I blurred it in the editor.  Flamewolf  03:44, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

He looks very pink. He needs to be more brown like his Medicine cat image -  Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 08:45, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, a lot. Dark hallows 15:30, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

StarClan cat
For cats deceased of old age (as elders), I suggest to use the Warrior silhouette in the infobox on the character page, instead of the Elder silhouette. It is frequently mentioned that cats regain their youthfulness upon joining StarClan. Alternatively, a separate StarClan silhouette might be created (if there are resources for it). Waitingforspring 08:32, February 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Uumm, what are you talking about? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 09:14, February 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Translation: For cats who died as elders, I suggest to use the warrior images in the charcat template instead of the elder ones. It is frequently mentioned that cats regain their youthfullness on joining StarClan. A separate StarClan Cat blank may be created if there are resources for it.


 * Waitingforspring: The images are put on the character infobox (charcat (character + cat) ), looking at the post on which the cat had died. Җ Ѭ ѳ ѥ  ѯ 10:35, February 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I figured that out, that's why I made the initial suggestion. ;) Waitingforspring 10:53, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying, but it would probably be better if we kept the post in which they died, even as an elder. Yellowfang hasn't lost her snaggled teeth, or ungroomed pelt, and it has been mentioned she can't move too well, even in StarClan. On the alternative, StarClan cat blanks would immediately let the reader of the article know that cat has died, even if they aren't that far in the series. One could argue that the ranks we use in the infobox also constitute spoilers, but a big spoiler is when a cat dies. It would also be a lot of work. Any other opinions on this? -- Bramble 17:26, February 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm... Personally I think it is better to leave it as the rank a cat died at being left as their current rank. Even if a cat dies an elder, that is the form in which they left their living Clan and would be remembered as such. I think the idea of a StarClan blank is out of the question at least for now as this would be a huge task and the project would be going backwards rather than forwards. As with many things, this may be something to think about in the future, but for now I say we leave it as it is. ✐S  aN  dY  21:31, February 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sandy said it perfectly, and probably better worded than I would have said it too. :) -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day!   ♣ 22:03, February 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Eloquent is one of the words I would use. :) I agree with Sandy's reasoning. Is this alright with you, Spring? It was a good idea, just not one we'll probably use. -- Bramble 22:52, February 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I think it would be a bit confusing to have StarClan blanks too, and Sandy has said it all. Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 08:43, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I could argue with the "if a cat dies an elder, they would be remembered as such" part - for example in my opinion Goldenflower will always be remembered as a protective queen and a formidable warrior, instead of an elder. But of course, I agree with the consensus. :) Waitingforspring 08:06, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

We're not saying they'll always be remembered as an elder. I highly doubt that Yellowfang will always be remembered as a grumpy old elder with ticks. Same thing for all the elders, including Goldenflower. Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 08:43, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps starclan cats could have a special mark.. maybe a really small star or something, it'd be easy to add. -- Dark hallows 15:32, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

I asked Bramble about this earlier and when I was new but I made kind of a StarClan templete (on paper, not on here) and it is basically the cats deceased position with stars in the background and in their fur.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:14, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

We could probably have a more thorough discussion on this later, when most of the pictures are done and we're all bored and waiting for something to do. Would probably prolong the Project life, too. Can I go ahead and archive this? -- Bramble 01:57, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Petal (KP) - For Approval
I need to know how to shade this. Other than that, comments? Critique? Critiquents? My fourth image, and first kittypet. Җ Ѭ ѳ ѥ  ѯ 10:35, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Just like you said the shading otherwise its pretty good!Moonpelt1786 14:22, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by saying you need to know how to shade it, but I'll explain two different ways.


 * Using the burn tool, set the range on highlights, and it will show up on white.


 * Run the tool along the back, the legs, the edges of the head, and the bottom of the tail.

Does that help? Bramble 17:41, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Is that the shading? It looks like she has stripes. The shading needs to touch the lineart, and to be blurred more Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 08:54, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brokentail (D) - For Approval
I should really do myself a favor and stop making deputy images where the lineart needs to be changed and I have to copy Bramble's awesome leader images XD But they're fun to do. Comments? (I know the tail looks a bit odd, but it was very difficult to bend it on the deputy blank) <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 20:25, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Imagine how hard it would be in the warrior blank. Nice job Insane, maybe add a stripe to the shoulder area. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:50, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is wonderful! And I think the tail looks awsome! I'm doing his kit version, and the tail just looks awful. I would add some tripes to his forehead, as he does on his leader image Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 03:03, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added a stripe to the shoulder, and darkened the stripes on his forehead (There were stripes there, Night, but the highlight made them rather hard to see) Better? <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 21:25, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dappletail (W) - For Approval
Well this was a challenge. I tried to imitate the markings as best I could, but I failedD: Constructments? (PS, my sig is in Japanese [not the letters, the word]. It literally translates to "Hawktalon." I was boredXD) -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  20:40, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lol i did that too. For the image maybe blur the stripes a tiny bit more. This is really good. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:47, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Oh, it's in Japanese! I was wondering what it was before you mentioned it *facepalm* -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  20:57, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

OH. MY. GOD. This is awesome!! The only thing I see is the top front leg (the one we can't see very well, behind the front-front leg) needs more stripes. ♪  B  a  t   ♫  22:41, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I knew that kage meant shadow so I assumed that hai meant ash. Your new sig's cool, Hawktalon. :) Image-wise, do what Blue said, as well as add a stripe or two to the muzzle as without a highlight like the elder image it looks a tad bit bare. Add a couple to the ankle right below the haunch as well. -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day!   ♣ 23:13, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Added stripes. -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  23:28, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes to the back leg. ♪  B  a  t   ♫  01:07, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think this looks great! Good stripes! But I agree with Bat more stripes on the back leg otherwise GREAT! Moonpelt1786 04:42, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Moar stripesXD -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  20:11, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Lol Hawktalon. xP All I see (this really is the last thing xD) is that I don't see much shading on the legs. ♪  B  a  t   ♫  23:09, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Shnuky (KP) - For Approval


I think we finally got her desciption right. So, to celebrate, here she is. I went brown, because I find gray cats drab, and I just did Ruby. Constructments on the cat with the most kittypet-ish name ever? ♪  B  a  t   ♫  22:18, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Good job! I really like the collar. Make the nose a tad less hot pink. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:22, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Lightened nose color. Thanks, Ashshadow. When I made it, I was trying to make the collar look like it had tiny flowers on it, but I like the way it turned out. (: Anything else? ♪   B  a  t   ♫  22:25, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Look! I really am alive, and i've come back! As for the image, make the nose pink the same color as the ear pink. Fire-★  01:02, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

So, should I make them both the same color as the ear pink or nose pink? ♪  B  a  t   ♫  01:08, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Get the color from the ear pink. -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 02:16, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Changed nose color. Anything else? ♪  B  a  t   ♫  12:11, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Whitewing (Ki)--For Approval
This is my first kit! How is it?-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  00:41, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Not bad, just darken the eye color and earpink a tad. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:56, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back and legs. Good job! ♪  B  a  t   ♫  01:01, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened earpink and eye color. Blurred shading on the back and legs. What else?-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  02:28, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Runningwind (A) - For Approval
Constructments?--  Night shine   ♣  01:10, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, nice stripes! The stripes on his legs look a little thick though, maybe make them a bit thinner? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 03:13, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded thinned the leg stripes--  Night shine   ♣  03:19, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

My oppinion is that I think it looks great!!! Love the stripes and great shading! Moonpelt1786 04:38, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Pretteh! :D Just make the tail stripes a bit thinner. ♪  B  a  t   ♫  12:14, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ooh, much better than my warrior version. But I can't see the ear pink too well.-- Dark hallows 14:20, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded thinned tail stripes and I tried fixing the ear pink. Hopefully it's better. I love your warrior version of him!--  Night shine   ♣  00:24, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Amazing! I can't find anything wrong with this! <font color="Lime" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:green">Saint Ice 00:26, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Owlstar (W) For Approval


I'm sorry about the hassel with Feathertail I didn't know but I got Owleyes (also Owlstar) off the page you gave me so have any critisism or comments??? Moonpelt1786 03:07, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

I took it out of thumbnail for you. After you post please sign with four of ~. Blur the shading--  Night shine   ♣  02:47, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE UPLOADED

How does that look??? Moonpelt1786 04:54, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

More blurring. Dark hallows 15:23, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks...bumpy. Get the brush tool size 3, and smooth the shading in. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 21:38, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (A) For Approval
I was so proud of my Shadepelt as an apprentice! So I decided to go on doing solid color cats! Like it, or love it? I think it would look better without shading also. And I think I went over 35, but... Don't take this down! Please! Take someother useless message down! ♣Silver thistle  05:22, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading quite a bit! <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 10:07, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Silverthistle, you didn't go over the limit. But please don't call the other chararts and discussion parts on here useless. As for the image, Fawn's right about blurring the shading, and she needs eye white Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 10:08, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Her ear was nicked as an apprentice so should she have a nicked ear in the image? Haikage Ash's Talk 11:51, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Do you all think i'll get it approved soon? Blurred shading ,don't think nick is needed and I don't know how to make a nick on an apprentice, also crossed out words ♣Silver  thistle  14:08, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

She really does need the nicked ear..-- Dark hallows 14:26, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added nicked ear ♣Silver  thistle  15:28, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnyfur (A)- for approval
Nothing special... she just needed to be done. Dark hallows 15:21, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Lovely. (: Just blur the shading on the tail and the bit near her hindquarters. ♪   B  a  t   ♫  23:07, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sandstorm (A) For Approval


I'm back with a new charart! And (luckily) this one is about 1,000 times better then Icicle. This is 37 but 22 of the things were discussions so technically this is 35. I just want to say thatnks to Ashshadow for some great advice and help and to al of the turtorial authors, you were very helpful. Anyways, quistions? Comments? -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:11, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. <font color="Lime" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:green">Saint Ice 23:23, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? i learned an important lesson for the next time I do a tabby:shade FIRST! Then you can do the tabby markings. -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:40, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I put it near the top again. The shading needs some more burring and the stripes need to be thickened a bit more--  Night shine   ♣  01:41, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

You're actually supposed to do the stripes before shading so that everything is shaded equally. In addition to what Nightshine said make the stripes a little longer. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:44, February 24, 2010 (UTC)