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Troutclaw ~ Silver Nomination
My first nomination, comments? -Sunheart- 06:31, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

I thought there was a discussion about whether characters that don't appear get nominated...I'm not sure what the results were, though. 00:15, April 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I had to close said discussion. No one was contributing, therefore a consensus could not be reached. 12:07, April 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * No offense, but I don't think this should get a nomination. The only thing there is a description. He is listed in BP, but nothing more. Cloud  skye  18:54, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Mistystar ~ Gold Nomination
It seems that last time the nomination wasn't completed, so, yeah... 21:43, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Could she have a better main quote? If not, looks good. :) 01:24, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree that her main quote doesn't really show her personality well enough. I'll swap it with one of the other quotes. 22:25, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, done. I added the section for the SOTM history too :D Comments? 22:38, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I added another quote, too. Comments? 23:36, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can Rising Storm be expanded? 17:15, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I expanded it a bit, and I checked the book, but it can't be expanded any further. 22:40, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

It has been 2 weeks. Comments? 21:59, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. I've been busy. CBV? 21:49, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

This was on CBV two days ago. The vote should be up... Sorry for the impatience xD 20:26, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'll get to it when I can, okay? I know it's on CBV; I'm not stupid. Commenting isn't going to do anything if a lead is not on. Please, try to be more patient. It's really starting to stress me out. I've got enough things going on without getting comments saying I'm behind on duties. 21:43, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is up. 22:29, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, okay, okay. Honestly, I'm really sorry. It was just a reminder...better safe then sorry XD 03:50, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Senior Warrior Lead Votes
You will find this message on all four project talk pages.

Due to recent senior warrior nominations, several users and I, including Icestorm, Feathermoon, Frostheart, Mossy, and Helix, discussed why lead votes are much more significant in senior warrior nominations? It really is unjustifiable. A Wiki is about team work. Senior warriors work with everyone, not just leads. Yet, normal warriors have no say. Why should they even have the option to comment if their vote doesn't matter? It won't change the opinions of the leads. It really is an unjustifiable policy. A Wiki is a community effort. No two users who may happen to have different positions are no different in importance. Everyone one's opinion matters. Why should one user not have the same voice as another? Why should background matter?

Regardless of your opinion, please, please post it here. If we get enough supports, we must put it to an official vote. Even if you completely oppose of this idea, please, please, comment. Your opinion matters, from leader to kit, we all matter. 20:51, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This Wiki is a community. Not where ranks are separated into groups, and ranked higher just because they have a few more benefits and privileges and a special name. They should be ranked equal, and all I see that should matter is that there is more approving votes than opposing in order to become senior warrior. So, in general, I agree with you, Moonflight. I see no point just for senior warriors to be ranked higher. However, what about deputy and leader? Would they be necessarily ranked under senior warrior? -- 14:44, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. If, say, there was a vote where most of the warriors supported but the leads were against right now, it would go down as the nominee losing the vote, even though the majority voted. As Icestorm said, there should be equality - every person's vote is important, every vote counts. So long as the majority agrees that the person in question should become a senior warrior, they should. •Maple fern•  23:41, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I do agree with you but warriors who have been bumped up to senior warriors got there for a reason. They have more experience than those who are underneath them. Yes, the wiki is part of the community, but many people including us, even if we don't know it, draw from a sense of power and higher ranks are part of that sense of leadership and power. At el  da  22:06, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

This is not about the power of senior warriors. This is about weither or not leads should have more power when it comes to votes about senior warrior nominations. 22:07, April 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I mean, sure, we're not as experienced, but we're a part of WW, and we still count. It would also expand the votes, to make it more fair. We should have a say in what goes on here.

Beechstar - Silver Nomination
His article looks splendid. 16:54, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Can you try finding some more quotes? 22:24, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I could only find one other. 22:42, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

CBV? 21:55, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

This was on CBV two days ago. The vote should be up. 20:23, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Again, I've been busy. Give me a break, okay? 21:39, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is up. 22:45, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Minor Characters
Let's try this again. What should we do about these allegiance-only characters? The options that were put up were:
 * A page with all the minor characters of the book.
 * Grant silver with no nomination.
 * Leave it as it is.

What do you all think. Please comment. We need to get to the bottom of this. 18:29, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I vote grant silver with no nomination. Just my idea. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   21:01, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Grant silver with no nominations. •Maple fern•  23:31, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I say we grant the minor characters silver with no nominations. 23:53, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. 19:20, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

I vote for granting silver with no nomination :3 03:31, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I vote grant silver with no nomination. -Sunheart- 20:25, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is up. 21:57, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Poppyfrost ~ Silver Nomination
Each section is detailed, and has loads of information. The Sign of the Moon section however is short but Poppyfrost almost doesn't appear in the book at all. Comments? At el  da  18:05, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Title this Poppyfrost ~ Silver Nomination. 22:18, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good, but it needs a few quotes. 23:02, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks! I'm kind of new at nominations, first one :) So i added more quotes, anything else? At  el  da  01:17, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Can Night Whispers or Sign of the Moon be expanded? 19:08, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I've expanded Night Whispers as much as possible, and Sign of the Moon can't be expanded any further since she rarely mentioned in the book. At el  da  03:50, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before vote? 22:36, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

This was on CBV two days ago. The vote should be up. 20:22, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I've been busy. You seriously need to be patient... 21:38, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is up. 22:50, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Leafstar ~ Gold Nomination
This is currently the feature article. Comments? 02:47, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure she appears more than said in Firestar's Quest. 21:05, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I added in a little history, but there might be more. 23:34, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Didn't she participate in the battle against the rats? 22:26, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll add that in, but I don't have the book right now. 22:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Woot! :P I added 7 paragraphs. It should be ready now. XD 23:20, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

For the one piece of trivia, should there be a source? Otherwise I'm supporting. It looks great! At el  da  23:29, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm just going to delete it, since it was added only today, and I don't think it has been confirmed. 23:35, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. Forgot this: Comments? xD 23:38, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

It's definitely almost ready. Could you try to combine the small little paragraphs you added and/or add smooth transitions? 22:52, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...I'll try. 22:43, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Done. Comments? 23:19, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Mistkit (TC) ~ Silver Nomination
Okay, since my other nomination is technically over, since the vote has been up for 7 days and it was only supposed to be up for 5, I'm putting this one up. 21:57, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

A lead probably didn't get a chance to archive it. Someone'll take care of it shortly. xD And this looks good, and long for a character that only appears once or twice in two books. -- Cloud skye  18:41, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Is there anything I need to add? 23:39, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the family citations are missing in the cousin section. 22:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I hadn't noticed XD Added. 22:40, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I added a quote, too. Anything else? 23:09, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Try to group reference the citations. By that, I mean use one of two options:


 * Use.
 * Use . Then, for every citation that is the same, type, .  22:57, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Snowy - Silver Nomination
I added some quotes and expanded SkyClan's Destiny a little. I couldn't find a main quote and I don't have Firestar's Quest. So if it needs expanding, can someone else help me with that? xD 16:26, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest using one of the quotes as the main quote, but you don't have to. I don't have the books with me currently, so unfortunately, I can't help you with that. 20:29, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I added one of her quotes as a main quote. I might be able to get a hold of a copy of Firestar's Quest, but I'm not entirely sure I will be able to. 20:57, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Barley ~ Silver Nomination
Yay! My first one! I was looking through, and it seems it's really good. I'm going to take care of The Heart of a Warrior's section when I get home - as I don't have the book at hand. Comments, anyone? -- Cloud skye  18:43, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can Forest of Secrets and Dawn be expanded? 20:36, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

And I think The Darkest Hour could be expanded too, Shattered Peace, and A Clan in Need seem like their unfinished. So possibly finish it or make it sound more like it's the end of the section. At el  da  04:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so... I'm expanding Forest of Secrets, Dawn, The Darkest Hour and the Ravenpaw Trilogy series. Wow. That's a lot. But, I'll get right on it. Sorry for not working on this. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:34, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Rockshade - Silver Nomination
I expanded SkyClan's Destiny a ton and gave him some quotes. I think he looks good. Comments? 21:32, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! If possible, expand Firestar's Quest and add another quote, otherwise, supporting. 21:34, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well I don't have Firestar's Quest, but I'll see what I can do. xD I'll try and find another quote as well. 15:12, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I added another quote and expanded Firestar's as much as I could with information from those little excerpts from the Browse Inside. (And my memory) 20:57, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Quince~Silver nomination
Her page looks good. Comments? ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁  12:55, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

She needs a main quote and some other quotes. Can The Rise of Scourge be expanded? 21:39, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Toadfoot~Silver nomination
Okay, I'm not sure if you have to be a member of this project to nominate, but I think Toadfoot's articke is ready. Comments? 22:19, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but you have to be part of PC to nominate, but you can easily join. Add in history for SOTM and add more quotes. 03:11, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

I see a few problems with the article. In The Fourth Apprentice, some of it is very detailed while some of it is like, "Toadfoot halted - next sentence = They continued with the battle stragety." You should choose which one it will go by, and go with it. Second, the entire history should be looked over and expanded thoroughly. -- 20:32, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Petalfur ~ Silver Nomination
Her history looks good and I added some quotes, so comments? At el  da  02:18, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

The quote section should be under the family tree, and make sure to use the quote templates when doing them. 22:20, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the reminder, and done! Comments? At el  da  03:11, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible to expand The Fourth Apprentice? If not, supporting. 23:08, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok it's expanded. At el  da  21:17, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Comments? At el  da  02:22, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Can Sunrise be expanded a bit? I don't know, but supporting. 23:20, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ok so I expanded Sunrise just a little by rephrasing a sentence that wasn't clear. Other than that I looked through the book and she is not mentioned other than that time.

Comments? At el  da  03:39, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can Fading Echoes be expanded any? Also, what about Sign of the Moon? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:39, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

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Petalnose ~ Silver Nomination
I added a few quotes, and expanded both sections, so comments? At el  da  23:39, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Why are there two quote sections? There should only be one, and make sure you're using the quote template for all of them. The history looks good, but the paragraphing format is wrong, so I'll fix that. 21:56, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks and I fixed the quotes along with the two sections. At el  da  22:38, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

If possible, find one more quote, and can SkyClan's Destiny be expanded? If not, supporting. :D 23:02, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

So I expanded SkyClan's Destiny and added two more quotes.

Comments? At el  da  03:15, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Willowclaw
Does she really need that bit of trivia about being only one of four she-cats with -claw as a suffix? It seems kinda unneccessary, ya know what I mean? 01:04, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it is unnessecary, and she doesn't really need trivia because she is a very minor character, but it could be there just to have a trivia section for her article. At el  da  03:14, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say leave it. It's a little fun fact. I mean, trivia is useless information; that's why it's trivia. 22:31, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, but my point is, wouldn't it seem useless to put, let's say, on Whitewing's page: "The prefix White- is one of the most common names for Clan cats, along with Black-" 16:42, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but Moonflight's right. Trivia is supposed to be just little interesting facts about the cat. Seeing she-cats with the prefix -claw is quite rare. 19:50, May 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * It is useless. That's what trivia is! 21:00, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nightkit~Silver Nomination
Comments? 01:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible to add another quote? Otherwise looks good. At el  da  03:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

She doesn't say anything, so I think its fine... 21:51, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Well, there aren't any quotes to begin with, but see if you can find something about them being very ill. 22:33, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I can't find anything about Nightkit. 03:36, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure? Because I think her and her sister were both mentioned as being sick. Doesn't any other cat say somthing about that in the book? 19:47, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I found a quote, and since I'm going to add it to Mistkit, I'll add it to this one as well. XD 22:21, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Added. :D 22:50, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Pounce ~ Silver Nomination
His page looks good to me. Comments? 22:59, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Can you find another quote for him? 14:34, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reedfeather ~ Silver Nomination
I added some quotes for him, including a main quote. Comments? ✿ Dreamwhisper ✿ April Showers Bring May Flowers! 09:23, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Can Battles of the Clans be expanded anymore? 14:33, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Can Bluestar's Prophecy be expanded a bit? 23:22, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ravenpaw ~ Silver Nomination
His article looks great to me. Comments? 00:28, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can the last two trivia statements be cited? Also, can Shattered Peace, Fire and Ice, Midnight and Dawn be expanded? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:37, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Note
Just for a notice, for the next week and maybe two weeks, I have CAT tests and AP tests. So I might not be on as often as I'd liike to be. 22:52, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I have an idea
Sorry if somebody has already brought up this topic and people didn't agree, but I think it would be worthy to add to the character's articles. Wouldn't it be a good idea to include (approx) how many moons old the character is? It's tedious to go to the timeline and try to figure it out, but if we went ahead and figured it out, it could provide more information on the character. Of course, it would be impossible to do it for every cat, as we simply cannot know how many moons old they are for one reason or another (like Tribe cats). But also, we wouldn't put how many moons old if they're dead, only the age they were when they died.

If they're dead, we could also possibly have how many moons it has been since they've passed away? What do you guys think? :) 16:40, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, its a good idea, but we don't know the ages or even approximate ages of many of the minor and semi-minor characters, and it wouldn't really make sense to only put the ages on a few of them... 23:12, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

There are only a few characters that would be available to put on it. It's really not essential to the article, either. It just creates more work. 21:34, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see the logic in what you guys are saying. Now that I think about it, if we knew a LOT more ages, then maybe we could, but for now it's not a good idea. Thanks for the input :) 22:41, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

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Brightsky
Can people quit adding the delete template to her article? She is a warrior of RiverClan, believe it or not. I've checked the paperback browse inside on HarperCollins' branch website, HarperTeens, and there is a Brightsky matching the description on her page. I'm sticking this here because she is a character, after all. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:39, May 10, 2011 (UTC)