Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Ice (Lo) - For Approval
Ice's loner version. Comments? - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  18:33, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink, so it doesn't blend in with the pelt as much. This looks great! :) 19:02, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Aw thanks :) - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  19:15, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and maybe give him a blood clan collar. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 20:00, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can you also give him amber eyes, like on his rogue image? 04:00, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darkened the shading, attempted to blurr the shading adn highlights, and lightened the ear pink. Added collar, though it isn' t ver good :| - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  14:40, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Move the highlights up on to the middle of his shoulder and hip, blur the shading a bit more, and make the teeth on the collar more noticeable, it looks like the collar is more jeweled rather than has teeth coming out of it. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 15:45, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

The collar looks a bit flat. Make the shading more noticeable there. :] 17:37, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Can you rename it Ice.loner.png? And there is some blurred lineart on the right-back leg, near the tail. 20:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

In his Rogue charart he has a blue collar, not a red one, so you should probably change the color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 02:06, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *sigh* not much better, but I added more highlights, blurred, changed collar color adn fixed the teeth, ext. - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  19:48, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:41, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Dry making the ear a little more reddish-pinkish instead of pinkish Feathermoon 01:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Brighten the highlights. 01:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink. 98.22.152.78 23:39, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Since he's in bloodclan, i belive he needs dog teeth reinforced in his claws. Right? 00:10, March 20, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Good point, Feathermoon. And blur the shading a little more.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I checked his rouge version and he didn't have teeth on his claws, so wouldn't that look weird? anywho, Reuploaded, I brightened the highlights and blurred the shading. Should I make the shading darker? I think it should be darker, but i realized that after I reuploaded it :| - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah darken it a little bit and desaturate the earpink. 20:43, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Claws can easily be added to his rogue image on tweak week. So for now I think he should have claws. You might want to use Scourge as a refence. 02:17, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Add some shading to the middle of the belly. They aren't just flat surfaces, remember =D --   Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 06:56, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pupil angle upwards.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make therpink look more real, it looks too....ah, dark and fake. Maplepool 22:32, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:16, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I am, parden my lack of reply. Reuploaded Now, I'm not sure what color to make the earpink, so which would look more normal? - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:42, March 28, 2011 (UTC)



I'd say around one. That's the closest to what I would use for a grey cat, though I would use a more red-hued pink. -- 20:54, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

The first or second look good. Add shading to where the haunch meets the body and upwards and where the front leg meets the body and upwards. Looking good. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the tail is too light, and the body shading is really dark. Lighten it a bit. 02:58, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I think the paws could use a little bit of shading. Other than that I think this is pretty good! I hope it gets accepted! :) Ivystripe 16:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Birchfall (Alt. W) - For Approval
Before any of you say something about blurring the shading/highlights, I just want to say I've blurred it as much as Pixlr has allowed me. Someone want to help? 01:07, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll blur it in GIMP. 01:31, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! 01:56, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Amke the ear pink more triangular, blur it, and make it more red. 02:26, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I blurred the shading for you, but I don't think I did it enough though :P 06:02, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear-pink more noticeable. 17:37, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the highlights have to be blurred more as well. Also there is some blurred lineart on his front left paw and back left leg. The eye color looks like a brown, maybe make it more amber. 20:05, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened the shading, re-did the earpink, and triple-checked for blurred lineart. I found nothing. Besides, I took the eye color from the regular Birchfall. I also blurred the shading as much as it'll blur. Will someone heelp me a teensy-bit more? 03:40, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Could you fix the earpink? 12:15, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink as well to make it more noticable. (Phew, glad I'm not the only one who uses Pixlr on everything!) 21:16, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading ot the chest and maybe add highlights (If they are already there brighten them :3). 01:31, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't add too much shading to his chest, 'cause the light is kinda coming, like, directly in front of there. I also fixed the earpink, and blurred everything to the max. Can someone help me some more? 03:04, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'll blur it some more if you want :) 03:42, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please! 03:45, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- It helped some. Could use a bit more... 04:04, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-re-uploaded- Sorry did the wrong one the first time X /. 04:15, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

lol....anyway, thanks Iceheart! 00:17, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink either brighter or darker, whichever makes it look more noticeable. 01:02, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened it. :S 03:32, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger and scoot it farther up the ear a little. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:03, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:53, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:27, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

darken the ear-pink. Maybe make it a bit of a dark red/maroonish color? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 19:19, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Move the earpink up a little bit in the ear and maybe widen it a bit because it looks too thin, but don't make it too big. :3 20:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job =D Make the ear pink a lighter color because it's too red. --  Icy 123   ♥  23:59, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't lighten it, because I'm not too sure what people want me to do. Some say darken, others say lighten. :P 00:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I know this has been said before, but the earpink really should be lighter. It needs to match the coat more. Don't lighten it a lot, but it shouldn't be so dark-purple. --  Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 06:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Wildheart on this. Also, can the shading be darkened? It looks like there's not a lot there. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 22:09, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Just darken and blur the shading, and lighten the ear pink a bit, like Wildheart said. 22:24, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred the shading a lot, so if it needs more, [which it probably does] can someone help me? 02:09, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I will. 02:15, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I blurred the shading a lot, and I feel your pain, Rainlegs. It was really hard to do. It involved the smudge tool, and halfway through I realized I'd killed the ear pink so I had to erase it and redo it since I didn't wanna start all over with my blurring. The changes aren't showing up for me, though. Are they for any of you? 02:56, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, they're showing up now. Does anyone else think the shading could be darkened a bit? I think I over-blurred. :/ 02:56, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yay, someone finally understands my issues with this cat! XD I think it could be darkened a tad more. Do you want me to do it, or would you still want to do it, so you can blur it after it's added? 03:02, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

It's your charart, so, it's your call. :3 03:09, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mmmkay. I darkened it, can you blur it some more? 03:17, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mmkay. 21:46, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading on the back.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. 14:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the left (our left) ear and the neck. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the chin/neck area Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I blurred the shading. 21:06, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I added the chin shading, but I think it needs to blurred more. :P 01:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah blur that =) Put your blur tool on 100%, if it isn't already. --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:35, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

There is like a stripe on his neck, get rid of that. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 13:40, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. @Maplepool- It's shading, not a stripe. Anyway, I blurred it to the max. Can someone help me? :P 14:04, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Snake (Lo) - For Approval
I'm not sure if he would get a collar or not, What do you think? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 03:33, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Great! Just lighten the Highlights and darken the shading. Feathermoon 03:44, March 13, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Yes I believe he should get a collar. Make the ear pink more reddish-- Night  shine  06:18, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they need collars. Use Bone and Scourge's images to help, I found them sueful when dooing Ice's collar. - Ginger  tail <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script>The Luck Of The Irish... <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script> 14:43, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Collar fail. XP

Maybe put some shading under the collar. 20:46, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I just realized ICE was the one who had a blue collar. Snake has a red one. I added some shading under the collar like Riverpelt said.

Thicken the shading or add highlights. The midsection just looks... emptyish. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:38, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the end of the tail. Not a highlight, but just not in shadow. 01:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I won't be able to work on this for a fewdays. My computer's been acting wacky and my brother can't fix it for a few more days. I'll work on this as soon as it's fixed though. Sorry. D: ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:21, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading and highlights.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:07, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

My computer's starting to work better, though it still acts up sometimes. I'll get back to working on this as much as I can now. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 09:11, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Not completely sure I like this version.... :/ And just cause people keep sayng stuff about highlights, let me just say, there is none on this image, so don't bother commenting about those. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 09:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the belly highlight and make him a color that is closer to Ice's.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:18, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think this is ready. Comments before approval? Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

The back shading and belly shading are so. . . thick. . . they almost meet. And the shading altogether is a bit blotchy. 02:56, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blotchy? I don't know exactly how to fix that..... It's blurred pretty much to the max, and I don't really see where it's blotchy. How do I fix it? And I'll thin out the shading on the back and stomache. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:33, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - The changes aren't showing quite yet, it might take a minute. I did my best, but I still don't quite get what you mean by 'blotchy'. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:06, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind what I just said, it's showing up now. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:10, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely job, I see nothing wrong. --  Wildheart  Back  from  Maui;  tanless 05:37, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Night shine  07:07, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Pinestar (alt. L) - For Approval
He was described as tawny in Bluestar's Prophecy. Comments/criticsm?  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  18:03, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink and darken the shading. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 18:30, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the tail, fix that please. :3 19:11, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink....it looks kinda weird. 11:07, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

It should be a bit more orange-y. There's some blurred lineart on the front right leg also. 192.203.211.254 17:33, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Make the earpink less purply and more red-pink. 22:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also, do you have a ref for that? There's nothing on his page. 03:30, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

I tried posting this thre times but my computer got screwed up -.- theres a tad of white on the tail you forgot to color in, and the highlights could be blurred a tad. - Ginger  tail <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script>The Luck Of The Irish... <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script> 20:30, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink should fill the whole ear. 01:28, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't really have to. Looks fine! --  Moon  leaf  02:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it does have to, thats how the line art was designed. 03:41, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

If you want to know what tawny should look like, look at my alternate for Tawnypelt on this page. I think there is some blurred lineart on the haunch. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think this color for tawny looks fine. 20:09, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Same here. On the tail, there's a white pixel in the lineart. Can you fill that in? Echostar229 01:27, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

There's also blurred lineart on the tail. It may have some one of the forelegs but I'm not too positive on that. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:07, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. '' <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, make this more gingery (it's too brown right now) and lighten the ear pink. Also make the ear pink fill the whole ear. -- Night  shine  18:49, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink a little and blur the tail shading. 01:37, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:12, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

The white pixel on the tail still isn't filled in, so fill that in please. Also, the earpink isn't filling the whole ear still and brighten the highlights more. 17:18, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is there a tiny gray smudge between the tail and the foot? Also, blur the shading. 04:40, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nightflower is right. It needs to be removed. Unless this has already been discussed, brighten the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:47, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe darken the ear pink a bit more, it's kinda hard to see. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, make the earpink more visible, then blur it. 22:14, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

There is blurred lineart on the right ear. 20:40, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Define/darken the ear pink to make it more noticable and maybe blur a tad the highlight on the chest. 23:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:29, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

If Mistfire has abandoned this, I'd be willing to take over. 17:03, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hey, I'm still working on it :P I'm only allowed to use the computer on weekends, so there will be 5-6 day gaps between each reupload. And Rainy promised on the IRC that she would blur the highlights for me.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:09, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. 20:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a paler reddish colour. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:19, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink, it looks too bright. 22:17, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

This is up to you, but I think you should fill in a couple more pixels in the eye. It just looks like they are half-coloured in. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:41, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  07:07, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading around the neck just a tad. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:32, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hmmm... I ran into an edit conflict when I uploaded, so it uploaded the image but didn't publish the Reupload notice. Wildheart: The white in the eyes is the shine.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:09, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Willowbreeze (K)- For Approval
Here she is..... Comments? Echostar229 03:37, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink darker/more dull. 03:39, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any silver parts, maybe add some streaks or patches? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:57, March 16, 2011 (UTC) scratch that. Darken the whole thing a tad. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:48, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Echostar229 01:31, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:19, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Echostar, you can only have one image up for approval. As of now, you have two; Oakheart and Willowbreeze. I don't know what happens next, another user probably know though. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well she stopped working on it I think. Echostar, I suggest you put withdrawn by user on Oakheart's image, or we can see if it'll just be declined because the image may not be needed. Oh and brighten the highlights a tad on the image. :3 20:12, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

I did put the words 'Withdrawn' on it, and the image has been removed from the page. I had stopped working on him about a week ago, in case no one noticed my lack of updating him, me starting a new image, and the big words in the title. Oh, and, reuploaded. Echostar229 01:25, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well you never actually specified that you had withdrawn it. So please do so in the future. Add tail shading, add shading to the fore arms, add shading under the chin Night  shine  01:29, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Weird, 'cause it said 'Withdrawn' next to it on my computer before it was archived. The light's coming from the left [her right] so I don't think she would have chin shading. There's also shading on her arms and tail. Echostar229 01:38, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

I was the one that put withdrawn there. There should be shading under the chin since all other kit chararts have that and it makes it look less flat. Darken the shading on the forearms/tail Night  shine  23:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. Reuploaded. Echostar229 00:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Darkhallows... Mew? 04:57, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. 01:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think the shading's gotten worse...... :S Echostar229 03:53, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading go all the way across under the chin/ the neck. 22:54, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest and tail. 22:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Go blur crazy! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Thin out the shading on the top of the chest. It needs to round out more, to fit the shape of the chest. --  Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 07:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Will anyone help me with blurring? Echostar229 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken her shading to make her look more like her other chararts up for approval because they are darker than this..Honeybreeze 18:32, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help =) And the colouring is fine; you don't need to fix it. Enlarge the earpink a bit and then blur it --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:31, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest lots.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:22, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/blur that little highlight on the tail tip or lighten if that was shading. 00:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it and reuploaded it for you, Echostar =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:45, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add/lighten the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more even, and center it. 00:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken tail shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Willowbreeze (A) ~ For Approval
I know that it doesn't really match Echostar's but I'm still playing around with different patterns, until I see Night Shine's. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:01, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Scratch that, I'm gonna redo it, I saw her description as "Silver and gray she-cat". <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Redone. Comments for improvement? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:22, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink less purple. 04:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing, it's too light right now-- Night  shine  04:30, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:47, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken shading on far forearm, add shading under chin and to space in front of forearm on chest. Add/darken the ear pink Night  shine  04:53, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:00, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 20:13, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 21:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit Night  shine  00:44, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 02:13, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, it looks kind of flat-- Night  shine  22:59, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights to the fronts of the legs  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  21:15, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:49, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, the shading is just a bit lumpy/rough/uneven. Blur it all a bit. 01:34, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:07, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur neck shading  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:26, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder shading. 22:51, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

And the haunch shading. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:45, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

There is haunch shading... Anyway, blur the haunch highlight. :3 01:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading on the forearms, darken the chest shading, add a bit of shading under the chin Night  shine  22:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, it looks a little lumpy, and add shading to the top of the head. 02:14, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I think I just made it worse though... <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 18:51, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, or darken the highlights.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 16:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit and blur them. Looks good. =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading a bit. 03:37, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

There appear to be blurred pixels on the tail. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a very small amount and make the ear pink a bit bigger Night  shine  01:16, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:20, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink and maybe make it a little more red. 01:22, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:26, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Night shine  07:06, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Okay, Tigerheart re-posted! Comments? --  Moon  leaf  17:36, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

This looks better. I can't think of anything that would need touching up. I don't think it could use more blurring, either. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 17:42, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes a bit. 18:34, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

How? 21:18, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means make them more noticeable. 21:38, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried. 21:54, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes and make the ear pink more noticeable. Night shine  21:57, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make the stripes a bit more wavy to they match the pattern in his alt. apprentice charart. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 00:39, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little and blur it. 01:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is it too dark? 17:04, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Just a tad. Can you lighten up his back just a little bit? <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 17:13, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't a torn ear mean that the tip is completely torn off, rather than having it nicked? Maybe change it to that. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink a bit. 22:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Dang, forgot to sign 00:21, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more and maybe add some by the belly and up the back. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:12, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading between the stripes a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 17:42, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:52, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

He only has a torn ear and here it's completely ripped off. Make it so that it's torn. Darken the stripes, add a few more tail stripes, darken shading and add neck and belly shading Night  shine  22:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded What a fail! o.o 23:51, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and they seem to be in one blob. The face, shoulder, haunch, tail and leg highlights should all be separate. 02:12, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:39, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

make the shredded eat less rounded and make it more pointish. 18:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Reuploaded Now more failz 20:03, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make his match like the one on his current warrior image, and then make where you re-draw the line for the ear a bit thicker. Maplepool 23:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

No keep the stripes whre they are, dont make it match its warrior image. Maplepool its been decided that it should match the other alts. 23:55, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear a bit bigger; right now it looks like there is no ear at all =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:33, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Tell me if the changes show. 15:01, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

No, Iceheart, I was talking about his ear, I know the stripes stay the way the way are, im not a idiot -_- I was talking about make the ear look more like the on on his current warrior image and when (s)he redoes it, make it look more the rest of the lineart, a bit thicker. Maplepool 15:37, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm a girl, and there's no torn ear on his warrior charart :/ 19:58, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:52, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:55, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Huh, I swear i was atorn ear on him once... but do as Mistfire said other that i see no other changes need to be made, as far as I can see. Maplepool 22:30, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are really big and thick and the highlights still appear to be one huge unseparated blob, and they need to be blurred a lot. 01:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think the stripes look fine. 04:49, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad and match the colours a bit better to the apprentice alt. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:52, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and sharpen the stripes a lot. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:58, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I used the sharpen tool. Now it's more failz. 19:36, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Instead of using the blur tool and setting it to "sharpen", use the smudge tool to smooth out the edges into points. Blur the shading a bit. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is very uneven. Make the colours match the ones on his alternate apprentice image Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

So I should re-do it? 19:53, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

It's up to you. If you think you can fix all the commented areas without redoing the whole image, go right ahead ;) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid it :D 17:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry guys, the changes aren't showing :/ 19:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Try uploading it until the new version shows up Night  shine  01:14, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Tried, but it doesn't work >:( 02:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I found this link that leads to the redone image, hope this works: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110330020521/warriors/images/archive/b/b9/20110330020532!Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png 02:31, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Much better =) Perhaps you can just delete the one up top and replace it with ^this one^ so it's easier for us. Blur the stripes a bit. --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's working now, so it's okay. 17:12, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the tail highlight. 20:10, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:38, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it more triangular. Blur the stripes, darken the shading. I also don't see noticable shading on the stripes. Night shine  07:06, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's hard to make the earpink triangular when the ear is torn off. 14:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfur (alt.A) ~ For Approval


Brackenfur was described as a brown tabby apprentice in Forest of Secrets. Comments? 21:52, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. 21:53, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes, add more stripes to his face, forearms, and tail. Make the ear pink smaller and more reddish Night  shine  21:57, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable and darken the shading on the legs a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:09, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 22:27, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Would Brackenfur get an alternate? I mean, Golden-brown and brown are quite similar. 22:41, March 21, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I think so...because they're actually really different golden-brown is more golden, and brown is more...brown. Brackenfur is often called ginger, too, but thats too close, I guess.... 22:50, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well Brackenfur is a ginger-golden tabby and this is just brown. So I think it's fine. Darken the tail stripes, make the stripes thinner and add more of them. Add stripes to his face. Lighten the ear pink Night  shine  23:07, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. 23:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 23:23, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Move the ear pink up a little and blur it. 01:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 22:01, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes so they will blend in more with the pelt. 21:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

But he was called a tabby, so shouldn't the stripes stand out, instead of blending in? 21:41, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

She doesn't mean to make them really hard to see. . . just. . . blend in more. XD But I think the stripes are too big and thick. Maybe make them smaller and add a few more? Darken the shading, brighten the highlights. Move the shoulder highlight up so it isn't half on his arm/belly, and the face highlight should be in the middle around the cheeks/whiskers with shading on top of the head. Make the ear pink smaller and add stripes to the legs. 22:22, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

RE-Uploaded. 23:23, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes to the legs, and define them a bit --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:34, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. 17:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:53, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth those two little stripes by the eye. 00:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and lighten this a lot; this is a light brown tabby alternate, not just a brown tabby alternate. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:54, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Wildheart; it needs to be lightened a lot. The stripes are still really thick and there still aren't any on the legs. 01:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you added the stripes after you did the shading and highlights. Make sure the stripes have shading and highlights along with the rest of the pelt. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

'''RE-Uploaded. ''' 22:18, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image a bunch more. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think its light enough. :P Besides, as long as its not dark brown, its light enough, right?... 22:50, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I lightened it XD 22:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to be nitpicky... but lighten it a little bit more? kthxbye XD --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:07, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are bothering me. They look like huge triangles and they don't fit together, but then the leg ones are really small, and they don't cover the entire legs, they're only on one leg. Also, the two lines under his eye are huge. His back legs don't have stripes. 03:40, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then...I'll try, but I might need help... 21:55, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 22:18, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder highlight. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

RE-Uploaded. Comments? 23:20, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

The back leg still needs stripes. 00:00, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

The back front leg? I added them, but they're not easy to see... 00:01, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 00:04, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add a stripe to the top of his head, add shading and highlights to the stripes. Could you make the stripes a little thinner so you can add more to the haunch? It would look more realistic that way. Lighten the ear pink a bit Night  shine  01:13, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it's just me, but the stripes on the legs look blotchy. 02:29, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I blurred them... 20:28, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. ''' 20:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

The front leg stripes seem a lot... bolder then the other stripes. Maybe blur them some more or lighten them? 01:21, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone help me with that? My computer's Adobe Flash player isn't working today :( 21:52, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help, Misty :D 17:27, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried. 17:46, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Comments? 21:48, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I don't think there's any more things that need to be fixed...comments? 21:59, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too triangular. Make them flow more with the pelt and smudge them as well. Try looking at some other tabby stripes to get an idea of what could make them look more realistic. The highlights also look a little splotchy. Center the ear pink and lighten it. Night shine  07:05, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Harley (Alt. R)~ For Approval
Comments? 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! Define the stripes a tad more, add a small bit of highlight to the front legs, and give his nose a color. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:17, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing a bit more and desaturate the ear pink. Night shine  22:19, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 22:41, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit Night  shine  23:05, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 04:07, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

There are few lighter pixels on the right back leg and right below the tail. Fix those and this will be ready Night  shine  22:59, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad or the image. I can't really see the stripes ont he back that well. Also, a few (near the head and shoulder) stripes are really messily smudged. Otherwise, nice work. :] 20:33, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and also, are you doing the gray-black version? I'm assuming you are, since it's the only character description in the trivia. :3 This shouldn't be a tabby, it should probably be two-toned. The trivia didn't say anything about it being a tabby. 20:56, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I defined some stripes, lightened it and got rid of the pixels. As for the stripes Brackenfur alt., Rowanfur, and Skipper all got stripes when they weren't described with them.If its a big issue i'll change them but i think it's okay. 22:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but since ginger cats all naturally have stripes. That's why they got them. As for the charart, it looks great but you need to blur the belly and tail shading, and maybe darken/desaturate the ear pink a bit? Seems pretty bright. . . could just be me. 22:20, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Brackenfur alt was russet. He got stripes because the original had stripes. Like this one. 22:36, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Russet is pretty much just dark ginger, you know. . . 22:53, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

If so, they shouldn't have been as obvious, but it's too late for that. I think this is fine. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:35, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart, if the alternate isn't supposed to have stripes, and it's up for approval, it's never too late. She's perfectly capable of changing it. 02:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

But i dont think i should have to change it. Its not really your call Dovesong. If anyone else is upset about it i'll lighten them so they're harder to see, but i dont want to get rid on them. Call it artistic license. 07:42, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I personally think it doesn't matter if the image has stripes or not. Make the earpink less...obvious. 19:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 21:04, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and make the earpink more purply.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:01, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart, please don't call my Dovesong. The signature says it all. Anyways, how does it make sense at all to add stripes to an image that doesn't need them? They said, 'dark gray' not 'dark gray tabby'. At this point I could reasonably claim you're leaving the stripes on because you're lazy and think they look pretty. 01:17, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Also, Skipper didn't get tabby stripes. I remember Nightshine told me that that was the shading, before. And yeah, I agree with Mosspool that she doesn't get tabby stripes. But derp, I can't make this decision on my own. XD Does anyone think that they SHOULD have stripes? If this goes into a longn debate, I"ll make this into a forum. 01:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand why this would turn into some long debate. . they never described him with stripes, he doesn't get stripes. Common sense? 01:28, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I was just waiting for an actual leads opinion, please refrain from assuming I'm just lazy, because we all know what happens when you assume, And Mosspool/Dovesong, while we're on the subject of your signature, it's actually a violation of the Signature Policy, you might want to fix that. But back to the subject at hand, everything is blurred to the max and if i go any darker with the shading it just looks stupid. 05:01, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Did you use layers for this? If you did, you can probably blur it more. If you aren't using layers, maybe try using the smudge tool first. You just need to blur it in the middle, that's all. 05:08, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me... --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 05:10, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, oops. Turns out I was viewing it at an odd angle, and my brightness levels were wayy up. XD Sorry for the confusion. 05:15, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart, I assumed you had enough common sense to realize that if they didn't describe him with stripes, he doesn't have stripes. And please, just stop calling me Dovesong. You could also accuse former PCA senior warrior Hawktalon of violating the signature policy. . . everyone knows me as Mossy and it's what I want to be called. And if you wanted a lead opinion, then you could've said something. Whatever. Blur the highlights and shading. If it's all blurred to the max, then you might want to try smudging the shading and highlights and then blurring it to smoothen the rough look that smudging creates. That always works well for me. ;) And maybe make the ear pink a teensy bit bigger. 05:47, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well few know you as "Mr. Moose" so please change it. Other people have made images with stripes when they weren't described with them, so why shouldn't she? It's not common sense, so don't belittle her intelligence. The shading and highlights look fine. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 06:02, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't belittling her intelligence; but those images were all ginger cats and that was explained to her. It just bothered me that she wasn't changing it. Yeah, no one calls me Mr. Moose, just a joke with my friends :P I changed it, of course. But I think the highlights need blurring. 06:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I just redid it. Didnt really help. 20:38, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

There's some stuff next to the whiskers. Crystalstar999 04:10, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the little bit between the chest and the forearm Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the middle highlights 22:37, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 23:23, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights, and maybe add some highlights to the legs. 02:52, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - 23:12, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! If you want, it might look a bit better to have the middle highlight a bit more spread out :D 23:47, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I messed with it a bit. 00:48, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit Night  shine  01:12, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

The changes aren't showing but RE-uploaded. 03:44, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 01:18, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- everything blurred to the max. 02:18, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe add some highlights to the back legs, unless the light isn't hitting them. They just look a little too dark to me. 19:59, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I lightened it a bit but not to much because it is in shadow. 00:16, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

This looks lovely, I see nothing wrong. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:31, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Night shine  07:03, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the back shading strech all the way along the back.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:02, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Barley (K) - For approval
Okay, as of Frosthearts comment on Violet, she said that even if its one sentence they get one. So I'm going to see if Barley's Kit version won't get Denciled this time. If it is, i got a back up plan im saving. This is the picture it was at when it was dencied.

14:52, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Darken the shading. 22:39, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded=.- Comments? :) 17:30, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Define the change between black and white areas; they look like they are bleeding into each other. Blur the earpink a bit and make it smaller --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:38, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Try to have an equal amout of black and white, and as Wildheart said, define them. 17:39, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  01:43, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done- Okay i re-did this, I had no idea how to fix the spots without ruining it. :3 23:16, March 27, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

The black and white division needs to be defined a bit more. You can just use the smudge tool and then blur it lightly if you don't want to redo the whole image =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded- i worked hard on the shading and spots :3 23:39, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

The shading needs to be a little more defined, it's hard to tell where it's at Ivystripe 00:17, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Okay, i did my best but I cant darking the shading anymore. The black spots are getting too dark. Reuploaded. 01:36, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Lighten the black spot on his right (our right) its FAR to dark, its blending in with the lineart. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:59, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded  13:30, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Darken the nose colour, darken the shading on the white areas, blur the black a little more. Night shine  07:00, April 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * The black patches still look rather dark in my opinion, almost the color of the lineart but it may be my screen. Also the patches on his stomach seem like they are smudged in with the white in stead of blurred. Blur them more.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ |undefined 14:12, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Snake (K)~ for Approval


Yeah AT LAST A CHARART, eh Ive gotten better, but he can be better, and hes not taken I took him, I LOVE him why? I don't know^^, anyway, comments? Maplepool 22:17, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the sides of his face, thin out the shading on his right (our right) side, make the highlight bigger and add a highlight to his face. Make the earpink bigger too. 22:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- fixed shading added more highlights, slimed the shading on his right(our right) ear pink enlarged....hmm its not showing the changes dont comment till I say you can. Maplepool 02:43, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

O you can comment now Maplepool 02:45, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the chest highlight, it looks like he has a pale grey chest. 20:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight. 22:34, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- fixed the chest, blured the highlightes, comments? Maplepool 23:05, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular and blur it. Lighten the shading on the inside of the right (our right) leg --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:39, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 01:48, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make it fit into the ears themselves; right now it looks like it's falling out. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There Fixed, I think..... ANWAY, comments? Maplepool 15:32, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink and blur the shading. (Mintstarr)98.22.156.110 18:03, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

AT LAST I fixed the earpink AT FREAKING LAST!!!! Maplepool 22:40, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink and blur the shading a lot --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  02:43, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

There fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 20:02, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the leg shading and enlarge the earpink some. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:30, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading under the chin Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

There, fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 20:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading under the chin, make the ear pink more noticeable. Night shine  01:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Question, what do you mean, make it more noticeable, like make it a darker color? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 02:50, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I belive she meant to ublurr the front right leg highlights\shading, Blrr the top part of tail shading. And I belive theres a peice of lighter lineart near the foor kinda, and the areas circled in red need to be blurred: se the burn tool. 13:30, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Not everyone uses the burn tool for shading. But yeah, she means, make the shading darker/more noticable. 22:24, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, Since T.A.K.S is coming up, I won't be on untill wendsay, so...I can't upload till then, then AFTER, seciece taks, I have to go to a wedding for my aunt, so untill in like May, COMMENT AS FERICE AS YOU CAN DON'T HOLD THE COMMENTS BACK!!! YOU WILL COMMENT WITH FERICE-NESS (thats a word right?) anyway imma upload then COMMENT Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:04, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ok comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear-pink. And since there are a few spots to blurr, im going to give you a picture indication where. Green: Blurred lineart. Red: highlights\shading needs to be blurred. :  23:20, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Ok tried to fix it and reploadde Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 01:42, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think you forgot to fix the pink ear :3 02:01, April 2, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Rosepetal (A) -For Approval-
Toadstep seems to be getting one, so Rosepetal shoud as well. Not so proud of the stripes on this one. Cronstructaments? 02:16, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section. Make the earpink stand out some more. 02:18, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Take the eye colour off her warrior charart, fix the blurred lineart on its head, and make the stripes like the ones on her warrior charart. They just look like random swirls right now. 02:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, shouldn't this be declined too? Toadstep's was decbe sides, they were never seen as apperentices, so unless frostheart, or Nightshine say it can stay I think it might be declined. Maplepool 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Frostheart wants them to have images. I think it has a chance. 22:08, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, don't just go saying random things before you know the whole story. There are reasons it stayed up. :P 23:19, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more stripes on the back so it matches the warrior pixel's stripes. Lighten the tail highlight. This looks good =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:18, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  17:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripe style just looks way different from her warrior charart. Examine it for a little while to see what they look like, and copy off of it. Also, define the ear pink. 17:42, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried my best to copy the stripes. 19:25, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There is one part right before her tail tip which is lightet then the rest of her tail, darken that, other than that very nice Maplepool 22:43, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too dark, and still kind of big, and while they look more like her warrior charart's, they're not quite there. And what's cronstructaments mean? xD 01:10, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

See if you can edit the colors to match the shade of her warrior charart's. -- 01:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten/darken the earpink and maybe try blurring the stripes. 16:28, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone just redline where the stripes would be? That would help a lot DX 20:01, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:21, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest outlining the stripes in the 'smudge' tool, that would blur them a little. 21:33, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

You said you wanted a redline for the stripes? Here it is XD You had the right idea, but a couple of them were off. Basically, all you have to follow is where the stripes meet the lineart, but you can take artistic license with the rest, as we haven't seen the right side of her body yet. So go crazy =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:44, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the redline, Wildheart. I owe you one xD 21:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes' color. 22:20, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

No problem =) Maybe add some stripes to the front leg and the front of the haunch. I didn't add any to the redline because I didn't want to influence where you put them =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:51, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

On the back leg, there is an area that isn't blurred. It's the tip of the bottom stripe. Ivystripe 00:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Reuploaded  21:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

You could another stripe to the front of the haunch... 21:13, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make all of the stripes consistent with eachother. The one on the front of the haunch is what all of them should look like (color wise) in my opinion. 22:10, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 21:05, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes and define them =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:01, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hazeltail (Alt. A) - For Approval
I really liked this one; 1st charart for PCA!

Moved this to the correct section. It doesn't quite look like you used the full size image as there are white pixels surrounding it. Fix that please. Otherwise, it's pretty good. 18:19, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Save the image as a png, not a jpg. 19:02, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, got it. <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  22:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the backround transparent, and get rid of all the random little pixels on the image. 22:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I did make the backround transparent. <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  19:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Redo it, but don't save it as a .jpg image save it as a .png and her tail-tip is too bright, it looks white, and blur ther earpink, and make it smaller, and make the background transparent. Maplepool 22:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED - <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  20:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the highlights, as they look quite blotchy. Darken the ear pink and rename this Hazeltail.apprentice.alt.png. 19:31, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Very stunning^^, and tis is yourfirst charart for PCA? darken her tail tip and her muzzle, blur the earpink a bit more add shading to her ear that is farthest from us. Very nice, its better then mine, im jealous.... :/ Maplepool 20:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fill in the pixels on the stomach, and make the ear pink smaller. And was she described as mottled, or just gray? because this looks mottled. 20:50, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading, not smudge them.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the bits of gray outside of the lineart. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:03, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED - <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  01:48, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

There is a white area on the belly that should be filled in, darken the shading, make the ear pink more noticeable. Rename this Hazeltail.apprentice.alt.png. Night shine  01:57, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED - <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  02:04, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken this a lot. 04:44, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

And then make the hilights more noticable. 22:36, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Willowshine (Alt. K) - For Approval
She was described as dark grey in Dawn. Comments? -- 20:34, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Just blur the neck shading a wee bit. 21:24, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- 21:50, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. Maplepool 02:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the right (our right) of her. 16:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- 16:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it, it looks black instead of dark gray.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shade is fine. Darken the nose colour, it is too similar to the pelt. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm not sure how noticeable it is, but the value used to be 25; now it's 15. -- 20:56, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Still needs to be lightened some. Looking better, though =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:02, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nightshine said she thought the fur shade was fine. -- 02:00, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Nightshine isn't the whole world, Goldenpelt. xD I agree that is still needs to be lightened a little bit. Blurthe shading, and add shading to her back paw. 02:47, March 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree it has to be lightened. Darken the ear pinkand the shading a bit. 20:34, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, but the changes aren't showing up. -- 21:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Night shine  06:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt. W) - For Approval
She was described as a black-and-silver cat in Forest of Secrets on page 15. Comments? 23:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the black on the tail, make the ear-pink a tad smaller and brighten it, darken the shading on the white parts, and brighten the highlights. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:07, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:00, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white areas silver. Smudge the black transition. Add eye colour, blur the ear pink and blur the shading Night  shine  00:03, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:32, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! I like the markings! The silver still looks white, so darken it a lot, and darken the shading as well. Move the ear pink up a bit. 00:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the black near the shoulder area. 01:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Silverstream.warrior.alt.png 02:47, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How do I rename it? And I'll thicken the black later when I have time. 03:44, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rainwillow: Whatever you are using to edit your image, save it, left click, there will be a list of suggestions, rename it Silverstream.warrior.alt, and upload it as a different image and replace the current image with the different one.  Icy 123   ♥  14:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the shading. 16:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the white some more; it still looks white, and not silver. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more centered and blur it. Smudge the black transition. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it still look white? Could somebody help me with the black and the shading? However much I blur the shading, it still looks the same. 11:07, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not to dark, it looks like gray. I would try along the side between white and gray. So its not gray, but its like a light gray, 13:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I can help blur the shading. I'll do it right now, and I can lighten the silver parts like Feathermoon said too. =3 21:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mossy! 10:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... When she was described as black and gray I think they meant she was gray with black stripes, her being a tabby and all. It's like saying Brambleclaw is black and brown... Darkhallows... Mew? 06:17, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Actually she was described as black and silver not black ans gray. XD It didn't say anything about her being a silver-and-black tabby on page fifteen in Forest of Secrets, but I could always fix it. Anyone else who agrees with Darkhallows? 10:25, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I thik that it should stay like this; It isnèt the same kind of thing like ginger cats, they natrally have stripes. Silver and Black cats have never had natral stripes unless listed as tabbys. (Feathermoon but not logged it :3)

Feathermoon, what? A silver and black tabby is very possible. She's a tabby, mentioned as black and silver/ I was thinking that too, but I just never got around to mentioning it. xD Rainwillow silver is a shade of gray, same thing. They never said anything about her being tabby on that page, but she IS tabby. :P 22:09, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...You do have a point there, Mossy. And since she is a tabby, I will agree with Darkhallows. 22:19, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

This (click) is a silver tabby. I would describe that as black and silver. Darkhallows... Mew? 01:17, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

So is it agreed? Should I change this as a silver she-cat cat with black stripes? 04:39, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I belive so. 13:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Blur the shading and haunch highlight. (This is Mintstarr.)98.22.139.18 21:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Considering her main picture is a silver tabby, I don't think she needs an alternate. Darkhallows... Mew? 06:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wait....so is this going to be declined? Frostheart? Night shine? What do you guys think? 11:35, April 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the ear pink smaller. Smudge the transistions more. Make the ear pink more reddish. Brighten the highlights. Fix the lineart on the tail. -- 01:25, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the black more stripey or tabbylike.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  02:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Patch (K) - For Approval
Comments? I took all the colours from his kittypet image. Night shine  00:45, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink a little. This looks great! 00:57, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded lightened ear pink. Night shine  01:00, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little bigger. 01:13, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the white patch on his chest just a tad more and darken the shading under his chin a tad. Lovely work! <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:22, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred white chest, made ear pink bigger, darkened chin shading. Night shine  02:13, March 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * CBA? 00:02, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Darken the nose pink a tad, it looks pale. Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:57, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

That's because it's on white. It looks fine to me. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:00, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes seem a little dark to me, but it just might be my school's computers. Lol. Nice job on this :P Ivystripe 16:33, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

I took the eye colours from his kittypet image, so it should be fine. Thanks! -- Night  shine  02:56, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Oakheart's Alternate Warrior
Hey there guys. I was looking through the declined images, and I noticed that Oakheart's was withdrawn. Now, it's on the table, but I don't see it up here, as in I don't think anyone's working on it. Do any of you mind if I take a crack at it? It seems like a challenge, and that's exactly what I need. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 17:18, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Did you read why it was withdrawn? Somebody said that there is no need for an alt because tawny and oakhearts color are alike and it wouldnt be worth the trouble for a minor mistake or something like that I think. right? 21:04, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I always thought that tawny was more orange and Oakheart's color was more brown. Huh. Maybe I'm mistaken. Someone prove me wrong, please. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 22:04, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart is a red-brown color which is almost ginger, and tawny is like what Pinestar's alternate is. 22:14, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

If you compare Pinestar's alternate leader image, with what is up on Oakheart's page now, there is a very visible difference, in my opinion. I'd personally like to try this, but, I don't know if I'm allowed, since someone has it reserved on the table. (But I'm not sure if it's really being done)<span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 22:22, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Pinestar is red brown and got an alt for being mentioned as tawny. Oakheart is red brown and was mentioned as tawny. Same thing, no? 23:21, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that it should get an alternate =) 23:27, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I definitely think that red-brown and tawny are too similar, so Pinestar shouldn't get an alternate, especially if Oakheart doesn't get one. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agre with Wildheart. If you looked at the little color-swatches we posted in Oakheart's alt section, you can see how similar tawny is to red-brown. 02:29, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say so. . . tawny is light brown, doesn't seem to close to reddish brown, but, if everyone else thinks so, then shouldn't we decline Pinestar? 00:55, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Webster's Dictionary's site defines tawny as "a warm sandy color" and lists the synonyms "fair, flaxen, golden, sandy, straw, blond"; nothing about being reddish, so I agree that he should have one. -- 01:15, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that tawny is a very flexible colour. It can be anything from a darker reddish brown to a pale golden-brown. So I don't believe either of them should get an alternate. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:14, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

What? No, tawny is light brown and light brown only. 00:05, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not really. If you look it up in different dictionaries, you can come up with anything from dark reddish-brown to pale golden-brown, as I stated above. So, no, they don't really need alternates. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:08, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I know this seems delayed, but I agree with Goldenpaw (erm...Goldenpelt?). Webster is a very reliable sorce. However, I'll ask one of the leads and see what they say about it. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 12:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I agree with Cloudskye, plus, can you show me some dictionaries that had different defintions for tawny? I went on like five different ones, and they all said what Goldenpaw said. 22:36, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that he should get an alternate, and most dictionaries do say that, or that it means tan or yellow-brown. 22:39, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia says that tawny is a 'yellowish brown color.' I'll check my Webster's Dictionary sometime soon. EDIT: Websters defines it as 'brownish orange.' I think he should get an alt. 20:52, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I asked Frostheart on her talk page, but I still havn't gotten a reply. I won't start anything until I get the okay from either Nightshine or Frostheart. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 22:01, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfur and Thornclaw=Ginger?
I've seen a Brackenfur alt be decline because Brackenfur is ginger, yet golden brown tabby and ginger are different from each other, both genetically and appearance-wise. I'll use color to illustrate:
 * <font color="#C89560">This is taken from a photo of a golden brown tabby. 
 * <font color="#F1A456">This is taken from a photo of a ginger cat. 

The golden brown is, well, brown, while the ginger is definitely orange. -- 00:25, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

But the two colours are similar enough that an alt isnt nesseccary. 00:28, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

And yet Ivypaw gets one for being described with with a silver pelt when she's a silver tabby... :/ -- 01:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, she's a silver and white tabby, so she gets one. If she had been an all silver tabby, she probably wouldn't get an alt. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:41, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

But golden brown and ginger are the same colour. . . google 'golden brown cat', see what you get. And the Erin's obviously think so too, considering how frequently he's described as ginger. . . I mean, once, maybe would be a mistake, but this is no mistake. 02:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

They aren't the same. Half the results you get are just ginger as. These are golden brown. But whatever, I'm not going to argue. :/ -- 02:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Those are brown tabbies. Not golden brown. Well, okay, then. I guess this ends now. 03:00, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Side note: the World Cat Federation defines a golden brown tabby as warm golden brown to apricot with black markings. -- 03:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Warriors: Not the World Cat Federation. Never said a thing about black markings anyways. 03:45, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Warriors Wiki: encyclopedia. It should be as accurate as possible. :/ The black markings were mentioned to emphasize the fact that golden brown is not ginger. -- 03:50, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

But the black markings change everything. He doesn't have black markings. Therefore, he can't be that colour. Okay, acuracy has nothing to do with realism. They have brown and ginger patches cats, gray cats with white patches. . . I don't think they cared much about realism. 05:19, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't change the fact that he's a golden brown tabby and not ginger. The colors are nothing alike. -- 05:37, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

One of the leads should archive this. I'm tired of debating. :/ -- 05:55, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Goldenpelt, are you saying that you don't think they need the alternates anymore, or you just don't want to debate about it anymore? :P 15:54, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * It looks like it's just the latter. I think he still stands by his opinion. 20:31, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

To-Bes
So far none of the to-bes have mud streaks like the rest of the tribe. I was thinking that they should, and with sign of the moon coming out i was wondering if we should make it so they do. They are just cave-gaurds and prey-hunters in training, so wouldnt they have mud streaks to? 01:13, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I agree with you. I think we should just save it for the next tweak week though, don't you think? Night shine  01:16, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe. Definitely for the old ones. But wouldn't just putting them on the new charats make less work for the future? 01:23, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

It would be less work, but then you would have to make sure the streaks are the right shade and size, so it would better to get some feedback from the project on it. -- Night  shine  06:18, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reserving Sign of the Moon characters
I want to remind everyone that you can't reserve characters from Sign of the Moon until the book is actually released. Night shine  01:54, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

After it comes out, can we reserve it even if we haven't really read or have the book? I know some characters I saw that I might have a chance of doing, but I won't get the book for like another 3 months. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 03:43, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Of couse you can. but you might want to wait a few days before making it so that people can get the full description up. 03:49, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to reserve them, I'm just hoping I can be fast enough to reserve a character when the book comes out. I just want to be able to contribute something to the project xD Ivystripe 16:36, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Join
May I please join as an apprentice? 20:21, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you in now. Welcome to the project! Please read the basic guidelines before reserving an image. -- Night  shine  06:18, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Inactivity
Frostheart is sick, so she won't be as active. She should be better in 2 or 3 days. 22:38, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for telling us, Nightflower. -- Night  shine  06:18, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Join
Can I join?The gost,09:31,2 april,2011.(UTC)

Of course. You should check out the basic guidelines and some tutorials before reserving an image. Thanks for your intrest in joining. 06:42, April 2, 2011 (UTC)