Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

Character talks
Okay, I think you all know users have been commenting on characters talks about things like they should be killed and to take the cats out of the series, etc etc. I have honestly had enough of this. First of all, it's clutter to the talk, and two, it's dead annoying. Most of my edits on characters talk pages have been the same, take this to the forums. The characters talk page is for helping the characters article, not debating whether the cat is good or not.

So I thought, why not have a notice above the grades, consisting of links to the forums where the "discussion" should go. It would mean less clutter for the actual page and no more wasting time saying the above. So many talks have this sort of thing on, and it would help. Anyone?    Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  12:29 Mon Oct 28

That is a brilliant idea. It would save a lot of time. I've seen many things like that stuff recently, and I'm not saying any names, but some people carry on when told to take it to the forums. A notice on the talk would be very helpful. 12:34, October 28, 2013 (UTC)

May we please have some more opinions please? It's been five days since the first (and last) comment, and I really wanna see if this is okay with more senior members of the project.    Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  10:54 Sat Nov 2

I like this idea, instead of linking to the forums, we could just link to the wiki page on the forum and they can see the link from there. Though this won't solve it all, people will still use the talk pages some, I think this could help. x3 13:29, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well, editing a talk page to say only "take it to the forums" on a discussion that's months and months old and hasn't been touched in so long is just a waste of an edit and really shouldn't be done. Check the timestamps and history before you tell someone to go to the forums, since there's a good chance they're not around anymore. That being said, this is actually a really good idea. Perhaps turn it into a template like this and add it to the top of each page, like we would for the grading templates?

I like that. Maybe "pretty it up" in an official looking blue wiki box or something and center it below the grades? We could even do it o. Every talk page if we change the wording a bit? 17:35 Sat Nov 2 2013

I gave it the blue wiki coloring that the grading templates have, but I'm not good with phrasing things while still sounding official. So maybe someone could give me a better way to phrase it?

Oh no that phrasing sounds good. The main thing was the "respective character" part haha. That would be good. It's a lot of talk pages to edit though. 19:05 Sat Nov 2 2013

If we divide it throughout the project, we should be fine. I love the table, Cloudy.    Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  19:46 Sat Nov 2


 * Question: Is this just for character talk pages or does it pertain to the entire wiki?


 * I'm sure there wouldn't be any objections from the other projects, but that being said, if this does pertain to the entire wiki then the mention of PCA would need to be eliminated. I do highly suggest this be implemented throughout the wiki for conformity and because other types of pages can have the same issues.


 * The template should also be a different color than the grading templates. Reason being is because if we want this template to be successful, it has to catch the eye. A light green would be appealing so it doesn't contrast directly contrast the blue, but it's still noticeable. 01:53, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

I see no problem with PCA being in there on all of them. While it may not happen often it does come up in other articles, so we might as well put PCA in there too. 4:05 Sun Nov 3 2013


 * Yet on that argument, you could have a basis as to mention that citations should not come from anywhere on this wiki or Wikipedia, the official site for Warriors, specifically the family tree, is inherently wrong, Dovewing's eye color is going to be first mention/most common mention, and other comments that occur.


 * Not to mention that if you break it down, the character pages account for roughly over fifty percent of the content pages we have, yet there's only a little less than a third that actually has one or more chararts. If there was a majority for character pages having chararts, then sure, art critiques could have a mention. However, since the other fifty percent of content pages, don't have art pertaining to PCA then why have PCA mentioned if it's not a majority.  15:44, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I stuck the PCA thing on it because there are a lot of people, especially newbies, that don't realize art comments don't go on talk pages. And at first, I thought this was originally going to go just on character pages, hence why I added it. If you want, I could make a different version for the book/world/reality pages, and see how that goes? Like, it would really only be deleting the part about PCA (which I do think should be mentioned on character articles), but it could easily work.

The argument as to art comments is still not convincing me, but I don't think that it'd be very worthwhile to distinguish character pages and the other project pages. 22:10, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that we need the PCA thing on it, either tbh. c: 22:13, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Could be useful though, as many character images are often brought up on talk pages, and, like you said, they should be uniform and we shouldn't distinguish the character pages. Since we're going for uniformity and a common issue with talk pages is people bringing up things that should be brought to PCA I don't see why we can't just generalize all talk pages and take the stance that any and all pages could be commented on about character images. 22:22 Thu Nov 7 2013


 * And I don't see why we have to mention PCA. It could be useful to also mention to when to cite the text/how to cite the text, what is appropriate for the trivia section, how to make talk page archives, and the entire manual of style. 23:39, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Alder - Silver Nomination
Comments? I'll try find a few quotes later. 19:41, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Why did you even nominated it if it wasn't done? Next time find the quotes before you nominate it. Please. The point of a silver article is that it's finished and quality, and should be done for the most part except for what people find needing fixing that you didn't. That's like posting an image for PCA that doesn't even have shading or coloring. e.e 0:56 Thu Nov 7 2013

Actually, I don't think there's really any quotes that suit Alder - she doesn't speak or do much for the most part, unless someone disagrees, but it's up to Sorrel ouo 01:02, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I disagree, Beebs. There are a couple quotes that would suit this little she-cat just fine. She also needs her family section added in and cited, her allegiances cited, and I believe it could be expanded juuuuust a smidge.

Done. And I didn't add any quotes in advance because I couldn't for the life of me find any that would fit her personality. I've only found one. 19:54, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Could you possibly change the quote or make it a Dialogue a-b quote? I don't really get it how it is now, it doesn't really show her personality. 13:12, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Done 18:33, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Comments before voting? 14:07, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but could you elaborate on a few details to keep the reader informed? You also might want to think about rewriting parts since they're confusing, especially to someone who has not read DotC. 03:29, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Done - this is the best I can do. 03:48, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

CBV? 21:55, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Vote's up! 16:25, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Shine ~ Silver Nomination
Beebs said I could nominate for her so... comments? 02:19, 11/7/2013

This is honestly probably impossible, but at least attempt it please? The article is recounting the same events as the others that were involved, yet could you make the aspect perhaps change? 19:12, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Could you also change things around (like perhaps some wording or phrasing) so it doesn't look as similar to Flutter's and Dart's articles?

Perhaps add a quote of the event where she was shown taken or so?

Still working? 13:14, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry, I forgot I had this up, and then I couldn't find my book for a bit. I tired to re-word it some, but there wasn't all too much I could do. I don't think there's any quote that really fits her. 03:25, 11/27/2013

The flow of the writing is a bit choppy, could you smooth it out some? 14:09, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

I tried to. 04:37, 12/1/2013

CBV? 21:55, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Vote's up! 16:25, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Appledusk - Silver Nomination
I'm pretty sure he isn't mentioned anymore, though if he is please tell me, as I used the browse inside. Comments? c:  20:52, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

The style is confusing because of the amount of pronouns used, so put in some names perhaps so the antecedent the pronoun is referring to isn't complicated. 19:09, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright, so Cloudy brought this up to me, but Appledusk is Shellheart's Grandfather, and that article has already been granted silver, yet more information has been needed. So we can either have this page be silver and remove the silver status on the now redirect page or this nomination is invalid. So which do we want to do? 19:16, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

I think it'd be alright if we keep this page (and have it be silver later on), and remove silver status on the other page.

I agree with Stoner - he has a name now, along with more information o3o 17:34, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

CBV? 03:34, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Ooops, sorry, but did you do what I suggested? 23:32, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Done, sorry I forgot I had this up. 16:17, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Birch ~ Silver Nomination
I can't find any quotes that show his personality at all. Comments? 16:51, November 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * This is almost word for word with Alder, could you try and change it up a bit please? 03:37, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Done; this should be better. 22:18, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Arc ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? 03:51, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

CBV? 21:55, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Vote's up! 16:26, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Velvetmoon becoming a member
Hello I would like to join the project. --Velvetmoon (talk) 23:04, December 10, 2013 (UTC)

Please read the guidelines and refer to the FAQ if you have any questions. Welcome to the project. 21:57, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Joining
Can I join the project? 21:05 13 Dec 2013 (UTC)

Of course, please read the guidelines and refer to the FAQ if you have any questions. 21:57, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Tom ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? Not too many quotes that could fit him here. 22:15, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Lilywhisker ~ Silver Nomination
Comments? 00:06, December 16, 2013 (UTC)

Join Please?
Hello, I was just wondering if I could join this project. I've noticed a lot of characters don't have their history filled out for Thunder Rising, and since I have that book on hand, I'd be happy to help out :)R ain <font color="#6796c2" face="purisa" size="5">D <font color="#69d4ff" face="purisa">rop <font color="#6796c2" face="purisa" size="5">R <font color="#69d4ff" face="purisa">ose 08:46, December 22, 2013 (UTC)

Of course you can and thanks for the willingness to help out! Please read the guidelines and FAQ. If you need anything just ask. Welcome to PC! c: 14:11, December 22, 2013 (UTC)

Joining
Hi! I joined this project because it seems as if it needs a lot of help, and I like editing stuff, so I thought I might give it a try! I might need some help, though. :)  22:05, December 24, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'll add you in! Please read the FAQ and guidelines if you need anything. Welcome! c: 22:50, December 25, 2013 (UTC)

Whitetail (TUG) - Silver Nomination
It all looks good. Comments? 22:49, December 25, 2013 (UTC)