Forum:Proof that Ashfur is not the father!!!

I know that there is a tiny, tiny chance Leafpool might have fallen in love with Ashfur(I hope not) but I know it is impossible for him to be the father. Before I put down the reasons, here are a couple of things I think you all should know, if you don't know already.

1) Superfecund-When an animal is able to give birth to a litter in which the offspring may have different fathers. Which means, if a white queen mated with a brown tom, and soon afterward a brindle tom, some of the kits would share the DNA of their mother and the brown tom, and the others would have the DNA of their mother and the brindle. Not very important, unless LeafxAsh supporters would like to use it as an argument.

2)A cat's gestation period is around 63 or 66 days, give or take a few. In other words, 2 MOONS.

Now, how is Ashfur not the father? Because... a. The Three, as mentioned in Eclipse, were born one month after Sorreltail gave birth to Molepaw,Poppyfrost,Cinderheart and Honeyfern. Just after Sunset. b. If you paid attention to what I wrote above in capitals, it would take two moons for a cat to give birth. Meaning that Leafpool already had to have been in the early stages of her pregnancy throughout Twilight. And since Ashfur was busy padding after Squirrelflight throughout that book, that could only leave Crowfeather as a possible mate for Leafpool. c. Ashfur and Squirrelflight broke up early in Sunset. A short time later(after Bambleclaw became deputy) it is noted at the beginning of a chapter that a slender Leafpool was growing quite plump. That means she was in her later stages of pregnancy, and Ashfur couldn't have mated her in so little time for her to become noticeably plump. d. As said before, she was with Crowfeather during most of Twilight. They could have been mates from their first secret meeting even, and they could have mated in time for her to give birth to the Three after Sunset ended. e. Ashfur is gray, with blue eyes, and darker gray flecks. Not black. Just darker gray. And he has blue eyes. No wonder people seem to think he fathered Jayfeather. Crowfeather, on the other hand, has blue eyes and gray-black fur. That means two fur colors. Jay has gray fur, Holly has black fur, and Crow has both. Ashfur has no resemblance to Hollyleaf at all, while Crowfeather resembles both. f.Read the After Sunset play. It is plain to see that Leaf had already given birth to the kits, and, knowing they belonged to Crowfeather, wanted to tell him the news. Why would she go to the bother of doing that if she Ashfur was the father? g.The Three were born just after Sunset. Leafpool never spoke much to Ashfur throughout that book. If he was the father, they would have given more hints instead of dropping it randomly on us.

That's all I have to say. This is the best, well-thought out proof I have, and I challenge anyone to find better proof than this. Proof about Ashfur being the kits' father, and I want details to back that argument up. I do agree, however, it is possible(a little, tiny winy bit) he and Leafpool fell in love.

I hope they didn't.–Willowwhisker 07:53, 21 December 2008 (UTC)