Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Change in main quote for Moonrise
Hi, Shelly here to ask for one thing: that the quote for Moonrise be changed. The current quote certainly is romantic, but all it does is ruin the ending of the book. Quotes four and five from the nomination provided dramatic foreshadowing and showed what the book would be about. All the currently selected quote does is tell us that Feathertail dies, whoop de doo. So, I was told that if I wanted it changed I'd have to propose it here, so there it is. 05:58, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

I have to agree with you, but it's just my opinion. I voted for quote 2 (I think) because I thought quote 1 because it was too spoilerish. There are better quotes. No offence too the people who voted for that quote. 06:19, 19, 03, 2012

Agreed, it gives away the Prologue and the end of the book, we need a new one. I would prefer either 4 or 5, both are amazing. Raineh Pwns all others  00:52, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I need to agree. Plus, I don't think that romance should play such a big role in the Warriors series, and it's just a bit too dramatic. I think that the book articles' quotes could be more..."mysterious" instead of dramatic. -- 04:00, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

I would agree on it being changed. It's a little too spoilerish. That's why I didn't vote for it. 00:46, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be changed....I'll ask Skye her opinion, as well~ 00:36, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Rainly, I'm the one that told Shelly to suggest changing it. That's fine with me. Shelly, which quote would you suggest placing on the article? 09:55, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot about this. Anyway, the quotes I would use are either: "Danger is all around. Your friends great courage will need. The path has been laid out for them in the stars" -Midnight or "We have no wish for fighting. Your journey has brought you to the Tribe of Rushing Water." - Crag

Both of these quotes do not contain major spoilers for the end of the book and they are relevant to the entire plot.

In fact, I propose that the main quotes for all of the book articles be re-examined for spoilers and relevance. Romantic quotes are fine and good, but the main quote is located very high above the spoiler tag in book articles.

Sign of the Moon, for instance. The main quote for that article is all fine and good, but there's a better choice: "Maybe we should be like the moon's reflection, holding fast whatever happens?" -Half Moon

That quote contains very little spoilers and is even relevant to the title of the book. The current quote spoils the fact that Jayfeather founds the Tribe of Rushing Water.

These quotes need to be picked out carefully, is what I'm saying. They should be relevant to the main plot, they should ideally be from at least the first half of the book, and if not then at least the first two-thirds, and it shouldn't spoil the end of the book for anyone that glances at the article and hasn't read the book yet. 05:19, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind a complete overhaul of the quotes already on the articles. It would do us some good to be able to really go through and decide what belongs and what doesn't. I'll try and go through a few of them tonight to see what I can find. It's a really good idea.. 20:07, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

The book quotes I find fault with are:
 * Into the Wild (the quote would be better suited for a later book when he actually has an inner conflict about whether or not he made the right choice when joining ThunderClan, leaving his twolegs was hardly a problem relevant to Into the Wild)


 * Fire and Ice (that quote has almost nothing to do with the main plot. and only has to do with a single point in the book. It'd be better with Bluestar's quote telling Fireheart and Graystripe to find WindClan)


 * Forest of Secrets (the entire plot didn't revolve around this, and it's yet another quote from late in the book. A quote about Oakheart being killed by a rockfall and not a cat would be most pertinent, I think)


 * Rising Storm (Another quote from close to the end of the book, Runningnose's prophecy would be best in my opinion)


 * A Dangerous Path (I really don't think that Tigerstar's lie foreshadows the plot well. Heck, "Pack pack, kill kill" would be better than that)


 * The Darkest Hour (yet another quote from the end of the book. BloodClan isn't even officially named until late in the book. The quote when Tigerstar strikes his deal with Scourge would be better, imo)


 * Midnight (another quote form the end of the book which spoiler exactly who Midnight is. It'd be better with the prophecy given to Brambleclaw at the beginning)


 * Moonrise (already spoke on that)


 * Dawn (another quote from the end of the book. I think it'd be better off with the Clans making the decision to leave the forest)


 * Twilight (aaaand another quote from the end of the book. Why not Cinderpelt and the other MC's talking about their prophecies predicting the attack?)


 * The Sight (another quote from the end of the book, dang it, and it spoils the prophecy Jaypaw finds. Why not go with the prophecy Firestar remembers in the prologue? Same impact, less spoilers)


 * Outcast (it'd be better off with a quote from when the Tribe cats are asking the Clan cats to come help them)


 * Eclipse (not as bad as the others, but still from late in the book)


 * Long Shadows (major spoilers, from the end of the book. I'd personally prefer to see the moment Blackstar declares that ShadowClan will not be attending gatherings)


 * Sign of the Moon (spoils the fact that Jayfeather founded the tribe, it'd be better with Half Moon's moon sign)

Jeez... I had a harder time finding a quote that I was okay with already in place. Eesh. 20:34, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah, the other books.


 * Crookedstar's Promise (major, major spoilers)


 * Shattered Peace (from the last pages of the book)

20:42, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think maybe we should all look over the quotes for each book and see what everyone thinks. Maybe even a vote for which ones to change? 01:56, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe instead of putting the spoiler warning where the Summary starts, we could put it at the very top of the page, before the quote. 02:45, 10, 04, 2012

I'm up for moving the spoiler tags. Although, replacing some of the quotes would be a good idea. However, I'm not up for replacing all of the ones Shelly suggested. Those are her own personal preferences, after all.

I agree with Cloudy. Changing all of those quotes are going to take a LOT of time. We still have other books to worry about......I think they should stay the way they are now. 14:10, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

With all honesty, I believe most of those quotes are fine....and, we have other jobs to worry about before getting down to nit-picky details such as this. 14:15, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with moving the spoiler tag, but I think most of those quotes are fine. Though on The Sight, the original prophecy would be better, it's not a big deal. Other than that I think the others are fine.... (aside from moonrise) 15:16, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'm against moving all the spoiler tags to the top of the page, as I think most of those quotes are ok. I think there are three or four that do need changing, but that shouldn't be too hard. I don't see the point in moving the spoiler tags because of a couple of easily changed faulty quotes. 08:52, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Of course some have to be changed, but not all of them Shelly listed, in my opinion. I'm still up with moving the spoiler tag, and Leopard, I respect your decision. 01:54, 16, 04, 2012

Cliffnotes?
I have an idea for each of the books' cliffnotes pages. I was browsing through them, and I often use the cliffnotes as references when I want to find a certain section/event in a book, but when I don't know in which chapter that section belongs in. So, I think it would be easier to use those cliffnotes in that way if we could add the page number to each chapter, so, if somebody wants to refer to a section in a chapter, it would be easier to search for the chapter by page number instead of browsing through the book.

So, pretty much, I think that adding page numbers would be an advantage for others when browsing through a book (well, at least, I think so). Comments, thoughts, and ideas? 16:32, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

I just think it'd be a little harder if the events happen over a few pages, but I guess it would be doable. 21:37, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

I meant to add the page number of only the begining of each chapter, not a page number for each event. Sorry, I explained that wrong earlier.^^ xS 21:49, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, that suggestion isn't half bad...I think we should try it. 22:43, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you mean sort of what we've done for the graphic novels? We have something like that already in place for those books without chapters. It's an excellent idea, me thinks. Hmm, it's fine by me, and could actually prove very useful. I dunno about you, but I'm getting tired of shuffling through the book just to find a chapter. xD 23:45, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, like the graphic novels. So, the headings that currently say this: Chapter NUMBER

Would say this if my idea passes: Chapter NUMBER, Pages NUMBER-NUMBER

Or, it could say the page number of the begining of the chapter, but I think a easier idea would be like the one above. ^^ Yeah, same, I'm tired of browsing through books to find a chapter. Finding a chapter by page number would be easier for me, and, I assume, others too. 23:50, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

I would like to have the pages of the chapter since it's easier in general. Even in other projects though even though this is only in PB, but in PC, if you know somethingblah appeared in chapter 6. Instead of digging through your book to find chapter 6, you can look on the cliffnotes and you instantly know where to look. I think it'd be a good idea. 00:50, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Agreeing with the above. It will prove useful. If someone finds something useful to put in the cliffnotes, instead of digging in to find the chapter, you already have the pg numbers on the cliffnotes already. I think it should be set out how Stoney said. 03:25, 26, 03, 2012

I like the idea....As DJCandyBud said above, it would be really useful. 15:30, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I definitely agree with this. It'd be really useful, I know it'd help me a lot to have the pages as well as the chapters. 02:20, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

So, shall we put this idea into action? Opinions? 23:53, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Go for it, Stoneh. I'm perfectly okay with this plan being put into motion. I'll help out where I can with adding page numbers.

May FA
So, suggestions? The other choice from the last discussion was Fading Echoes, and I'm up for doing that one.

Fading Echoes looks good to me 8D 11:39, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yea Fading Echoes looks good to me! ^^ 19:51, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Fading Echoes has been suggested the last couple of times so I think it'd be a good choice. 21:32, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Fasing Echoes is an excellent choice. 21:35, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

I like the suggestion for Fading Echoes, but I think that Midnight would be good too. The article seems quite good to me, plus, since Bramblestar is now current leader of TC, It'd be nice to see a book that that has him as a main character when he was young, to be the May FA. Of course, it's just my thought. 23:56, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Both ideas sound good to me. 01:31, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Like Rainey, I like the looks of both articles, if I was to choose one however, it would be Fading Echoes, because the history is very detailed. I also suggest Crookedstar's Promise, the history looks amazing and I think it would be great to see it featured. 02:34, 14, 04, 2012

Mmmm....Fading Echoes. :3 03:38, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

I definitely like the suggestion of Fading Echoes. :) 03:48, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Seems we're all going for Fading Echoes... So, any final comments before the vote gets put up?

Vote is up! Enjoy~