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Brook (KM) - For Approval
Comments? Ravensoul101 02:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger nad lighten it. Darken the shading and blur it. Darken the nose colour. Smudge the markings. Night shine  02:43, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Move the white pixel in her left eye, it makes her look kind of cross-eyed. Brighten the highlights a tad. Scarlet wind Step into the Light 03:15, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Make it a darker colour. Also make the ear pink not reach to the tip of her fur. Even up the fur. E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:38, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

The markings on her flank could be smudged a little. Ivystripe 19:55, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Add shading under the chin and to the bends in her joints. Scarlet wind Step into the Light 02:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, darken it and make it triangular. 01:59, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes. 07:10, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a little cross eyed. 21:47, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a bit. 04:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't change the eyes, mainly because it's the same eye pattern that's on almost every queen. You guys must of been mistaking the gray for the white. Because of that, I darkened them a little. BTW, you don't have to repeat things. It can get annoying. Ravensoul101 15:07, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  Mistfire Spring rainfalls  15:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink/make it more visible. The stripes on the top of head head are blurry and messy. 17:58, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder. 22:05, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her back. Scarlet wind Step into the Light 01:10, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too greenish. Fix it, please. MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:18, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticable and blur it. 23:35, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:39, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I'm currently in the hospital, recovering from a car accident. I won't be able to reupload anything until tomorrow, though, since my computer time is very limited. Ravensoul101 02:19, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ouch, get well soon! And blur the highlights. MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:08, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more dark. Other then that it's a great charart of brook as a kit motherSandstormrocks32 23:17, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Could someone help me a tad with the blurring for the shading? Ravensoul101 02:26, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

I can, if you'd like. I can also blur the stripes a little while I'm at it.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:53, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the base coat, make the ear pink more visible and I think this will be ready! 17:55, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and change the pupils; right now she looks cross-eyed haha... wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:51, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink and fix the eyes. 23:12, April 27, 2011 (UTC)\

Please work on this or it will be declined Night  shine  00:50, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Raven's still working on this. His comp is having issues again, and it'll be a day or two before its fixed. 03:20, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

I can't work on this anymore. I just don't have time between school and my injury. Sorry. Ravensoul101 13:22, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I can take over. 13:23, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, fix the eyes, blur the shading and darken it, and define the earpink a bit. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:05, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, lighten it or redden it, darken and fix the eyes, and everything Wildheart said above. XD 21:28, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Just plain darken the earpink, mostly. I think it's nearly red enough. There's some gray lineart on the front paw furthest from us. It's some of the paw detail. Blur the shading on her back.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:01, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 18:02, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes don't match up with her warrior and loner images. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:17, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

They do. They're just a tiny bit larger. 01:11, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink and make the stripes smaller. }  wild    heart   ~    02:42, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly. 01:31, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think there's supposed to be mud on this, since its a kit-mother. 20:50, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 23:56, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. I'm re-doing her, and pixlr's been acting up... It'll be a few more days before I re-upload. Sorry. :P 03:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

As I mentioned up at the top, we really can't wait that long. It's been awhile and this will be declined soon. There are other sites (Sumopaint to name one) that will do. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 09:26, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done. I re-did her. Sumopaint tried to download a virus on my computer when I opened it, so I stuck with pixlr. 15:11, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

The chages aren't showing; so bare with me. If you look at the image's page, the new version is right below what it claims is the newest version. 15:47, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Gah I know, mine isn't either! The mud streaks don't look like the right color, make them darker but not the same color as her stripes. 01:04, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I took all the colors from her prey-hunter version. 01:54, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well I don't think the mud is right on her prey-hunter version. The stripes look fine, just not the mud, it will look better if it's darker. 23:50, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm going to wait to see if anyone else agrees. 00:43, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Its hard to tell the difference between the mud and the stripes, so yeah, I agree :P 22:53, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think I agree too. I love the eyes, though, they look great. 00:00, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail just a bit. 02:04, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticable - largen it. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  08:00, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 14:28, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the edge of the belly a tad, Looks great Rainlegs! :3 01:57, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Whoop! The changes weren't showing. I reuploaded again, so the one labled 'Blurred tail shading, fixed earpink, etc.' is the newer one. Sorry for the confusion. 01:59, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest a bit. 03:49, May 30, 2011 (UTC)\

Add shading to the tail.

There is shading on the tail. Do you want me to darken it? Also, remember to sign with 4 ~'s. 00:45, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 23:39, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Is there some mixed stripe in the earpink? If not, define it like Mistystar said =) 23:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'll do that asap. However, I just came down with Walking Pneumonia, and an ear infection. I may not be able to update this for a few days. 22:46, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hope you get well soon! 23:04, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Yes, there is a stripe right beneath the earpink, but most of it was covered up with mud. 01:28, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink more. Great work! 22:20, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more defined. Maybe blur the markings more, make 'em look more like mud. ~*Hollowflame*~ 20:46, June 8, 2011 (UTC)Hollownight

There's this area around the shoulder of the front leg. It kind of looks unnatural. Can you blur it more? Sorry for being so picky; I notice tiny things a lot. XD 01:36, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Here, I have it. Can you see it? It looks lighter than the rest of that area. 01:40, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is still kind of hard to see. 18:09, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'll reupload in a minute. Squirrelflame, you are aware that that isn't the current image, right? There's a different one that I've been trying to upload that hasn't been showing up, unless you look on the file page. 00:13, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 13:55, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the tabby stripes. Not the mud streaks. This looks ready Rainlegs! 01:46, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

I took all of the coloring off of her prey-hunter version (Except for the mud, now) so the stripes should be fine. Thanks! 13:30, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is too sloppy/blotchy, and it needs to be reddened. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:24, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

I actually think it is fine. You've been working on this for a while. It deserves this. CBA? 03:42, June 13, 2011

Sorry, but only leads can CBA things. The earpink still needs reddening, but it looks great! 16:49, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make the mudstreaks stand out more. They look like pelt markings. Mist: <font color="Teal">Not emo, not a psycho, not a freak, but a loner. 18:42, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I wasn't quite sure by what you meant, so I smudged the mud a little. 00:45, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Add nose colour. Or make it more red. 01:40, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Give the right front paw a little more shading. Other that, lovely. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  20:01, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was NOT me. I didn't write that comment about CBA'ing it, I know I can't do that. 22:40, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. It's okay, Ivystripe. 23:56, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Its ok, Ivy, it was some vandal trying to get you in trouble. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 00:07, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink stand out more. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  16:08, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:09, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink needs lightening and defining, and also the mud doesn't stand out very much. Other than that, good! Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 18:50, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

You might also want to think about putting more mud streaks. Nice job! 23:41, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, she looks great! I think the earpink is fine now. 07:32, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Mmm, I don't think so. Make it a touch more reddish. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  00:54, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tje earpink's killing me. Can someone give me a color to use if they don't like this one? 00:58, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

This is looking good. Darken the ear-pink a tad more. Try to make it a like Dustpelt's. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:37, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 20:29, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Since Frostheart agreed.. I decided to do it. I admit, this is the first one I've done from scratch. So, comments anyone? Cloud skye  16:46, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt color lighter and more brown. Make the earpink smaller and get rid of the blurred lineart on the ear. 20:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the highlights that leaked onto the lineart on the tail. 00:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. . . how do you not do a charart from scratch? o.o Anyways, the highlights are a but too bright and the ear pink is too big. 01:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means not having to copy the pattern of stripes or color from a previous charart of the same character. XD Anyways, nice job! Maybe make it just slightly closer to Sasha's color. Looks a bit too orange in my opinion right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Paleclaw, that's exactly right. And what I did was I used Sasha's coloring, since it says she's a tawny, but I darkened it ever so slightly. Re-uploaded. Does it look any better? As for the ear pink, I took it directly off of Sasha's rogue image, so I hope it works. Cloud skye  19:02, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights on the chest, haunch and tail; they are way too bright. 19:24, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and darken them. 20:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Cloudy! Center the earpink. 04:49, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Highlights darkened, blured and ear pink fixed. Comments? Cloud skye  12:40, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading, make the ear pink a little smaller. Night shine  01:00, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a tad more and add a clearer highlight to the top of the tail. 02:03, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Back shading blurred, ear pink fixed and I added a highlight to the tail. Cloud skye  12:47, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/lighten where the shading meets the highlights by the haunch on the back. 02:48, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading and darken highlights.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:12, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I suck at this, honestly. But does it look better? Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 18:25, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights have been blurred too much. Sometimes that happens; they get discoloured. You may want to choose a lighter shade of your pelt colour and pencil it over the highlights, then blur that, but right now they're turning greeny-gray XD --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

This is what happens when people tell me to blur to damn much. I'm just going to re-do this. Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 12:34, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I re-did the image. Jeez, this is an annoying color to work with. Cloud skye  ♥ Evanescence ♥ 12:58, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. 22:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'm having ear pink issues. but anyways, Re-uploaded. Does it look any better at all? -- Cloud skye  12:46, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess. I can fix it for you if you want... 20:35, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the highlights and thin out the shading on the chest. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:42, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and if this is the tawny alternate, make this a little warmer in tone. Maybe a bit more yellowy-orange-ish. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:43, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

I took the color straight from Sasha, who is tawny colored. Re-uploaded. -- Cloud skye  16:06, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't look like Sasha's colour anymore. It looks like a sickly light brown. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   05:07, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm losing my mind trying to get this right. I re-did it, and this time, there is almost no shading. I had to darken my highlights though. -- Cloud skye  12:59, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart is a boy. Darken the ear pink. 19:53, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Not a boy, a tom. :P And the ear pink could be smaller. 22:31, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

And blurred. Where's your light source? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   23:49, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'm worried...bluefur and oakheart are both she-cats now, and they had kits....im really scared, change th gender from a she-cat to a tom. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 09:45, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink triangular and even. 17:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the lineart. I wasn't paying attention wehen I opened up the file. I fixed it and I'm working on the ear pink now. I'll have it up momentarily. -- Cloud <span style="color:#6C2DC7; font-size: 75%; font-family:Lucida Handwriting">skye 13:34, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Gender issue fixed and ear pink fixed. I was working on a laptop without a mouse when I did it the first time, so I had to re-do it. -- Cloud skye  16:18, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! The earpink still is hard to see. Darken it. 16:54, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit and darken the earpink.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:28, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Highlights/ear pink darkened. I won't darken the highlights anymore, because then it won't look like there is any there. -- Cloud skye  17:43, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The highlight on the shoulder looks like it's too high. Maybe move it down a bit if possible. And the ear looks like it either wasn't shaded, or it has a highlight on it, and I don't think there should be, so darken that. Otherwise, this looks GREAT! :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:07, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I fixed it. Does it look better? -- Cloud skye  12:26, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink more.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  15:51, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I won't darken it anymore. It'll turn purpleish. I think it's too dark to begin with, but, eh. Oh, well. -- Cloud skye  16:22, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and shading/highlights. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 05:56, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ear pink blured and shading/highlights. -- Cloud skye  17:21, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the pelt colour around the earpink and enlarge the highlights/thin out the shading. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   01:03, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Around the ear pink? Okay. I did what I could, although I don't really understand what you want done. Re-uploaded anyways. -- Cloud skye  19:06, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 22:32, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay. Better? -- Cloud skye  17:40, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Blur the shading. 23:23, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blue the earpink a tad more. 00:26, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay. I've blurred the shading about as much as Photoshop'll let me without killing the lineart. As for the ear pink, I also blurred it, but not a whole lot. -- Cloud skye  16:31, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. I don't see a light source in this. -- Night  shine  00:49, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Shrink the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and fix the eye lineart. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:08, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Whoops. I thought I fixed that. Sorry. As for light source, I really don't get what you mean. (*is confused*), and I shrunk the earpink as well.Re-uploaded -- Cloud skye  17:28, May 2, 2011 (UTC) I like the highlights--Sandstormrocks32 23:00, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno if the changes aren't showing or what, but the eyes still have two extra pixels. Check out an approved pic for a resource. Blur the shading/highlights. A light source helps you to gfigure out where your shading and highlights should go. In this case, you don't really have one, so your shading/highlights don't make a whol lot of sense. They're not terrible, but they're not exactly sensical either. I would recommend using this guide for shading. It always works for me. }  wild    heart   ~     01:54, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I started over, and used Nightshine's tutorial on shading. Does it look better? I must say, I really understand it a whole lot more since I read that. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 18:29, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, the changes aren't showing up on the page, but the actual file does show what I did. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 18:10, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

It looks a lot better :D Blur the highlights. 21:53, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks! I blurred what I could, and I also enlarged the ear pink every so slightly. It looked like nothing was there. xD -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:32, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the red waste around the fuzzy part of his chest. -- 16:28, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Blur the earpink and the shading/highlights. }  wild    heart   ~     01:26, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

@ Ivystripe: There is no red waste. I zoomed and everything, but I didn't see anything. And Re-uploaded. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well then it might just be my computer...-- 16:50, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and define the earpink a tad -- 16:52, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it look better now? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 17:06, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

This is too creamy, not tawny. And the highlights are blotchy. Oh, and if I mess up the page with this page, sorry, but my computer is messing up :P. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:23, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest taking the tawny color from one of the tawny alts, such as Birchfall, or Tawnypelt. 22:21, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's still red waste. I can see it. I'll fix it for you, if you want. And do not take the tawny colour from Tawnypelt's alt. She is WAY too ginger, but nobody corrected it because Bramble approved it without the CBA process. Blur the shading significantly. My offer still stands. }  wild    heart   ~     02:52, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about the "offer" comment. I offered to blur a charart for somebody, and I thought it was you, but apparently not haha.... Anyway, I'll blur it for you if you'd like. }  wild    heart   ~     03:00, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wildheart, please. HELP. I'm having so many issues with this cat, but I'm not thinking of withdrawing it. I'd rather get help instead of messing it up even more. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 12:20, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get right on it. Do you use layers? If so, please email me the image (my email is on my userpage), and I'll do it that way. If not, I'll just download the image myself, and fix it as it is. 01:58, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ...I got bored XD I had to tweak the shading and highlights to get them to match in intensity, so I didn't just blur. I hope you don't mind. 04:26, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, thank you and thank you again! It looks wonderful. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 12:50, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I'm glad I could help! =) 06:56, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

This doesn't look tawny anymore. It's more of a cream colour now. Make it more tawny-ish. Other than that, the shading and ear pink are perfect. -- Night  shine  21:24, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

If I change the pelt color, it'll ruin what Wildheart did. I'd have to re-do the image. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 13:26, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

You could colourize it, I suppose. 02:57, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Colourize? English please. Honestly, I think it looks fine, considering it looks very similar to Sasha's, and she's a tawny, according to the article. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 17:16, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever program you use, there should be an option to make your brush opaque. That's the way I'd do it, but I don't know if it would throw off the shading. -- 23:10, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Cloudskye told me to tell you guys that she won't be able to work on Oakheart's alt. image until it was Monday at where she lives. 11:57, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Rainey. As she said, I wasn't able to work on it. I was ill. But, now, I'm somewhat better. Re-uploaded. Does it look better? I tried to fix it the best I could without killing the shading. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:41, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmmm what program do you use? If you use gimp, there's a VERY simple way to fix the color without doing anything to the shading, and if you don't, I could help you out. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:26, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest more. Wild fire  12:03, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Paleclaw, I use Photoshop. The school's computers have them, so... -- ◄ Shattered ƒlamε ► ♫  Sin   With   A   Grin   ♫ 12:24, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I see waste around the top part of his tail, and this time I don't think it's my computer. -- 23:52, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

No. You're not seeing things. I know it's there, and I'm going to fix it when I get back to school. I don't have an image editor on my home computer, and I refuse to use Pixlr. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 00:02, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded... Eh. (Changes may not show for a bit) <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 18:12, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what photoshop can do honestly, I've never used it. But I could help you change the color if you want. If you gave me a color I could try and match it best I could and it wouldn't do anything to the shading. :) If you don't want me to help that's perfectly fine too though. ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 19:51, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the neck. 02:06, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

@ Paleclaw: Thanks for the offer, and I'll take you up on it. Photoshop is a image editing program, but you have to pay for it. That's how I usually work on my images. Try and make the color match something like #c9a36d. It's obvious the pelt color is too light, and that hex color I picked looks okay. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 22:42, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

MAake the ear pink more apink and slightly larger. Also, possibly blur the shading slightly. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  08:18, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink around the top part of it. -- 15:46, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded for you. Is that good? I can change it more if you want. The only problem that happened was the earpink color got changed a bit too, so you MIGHT wanna change it if you don't like it as this color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥

I dunno it looks kind of weird now... too dark and gray-ish. If you're still working on this for Cloudskye, Paleclaw, maybe you should change it to be bit redder. 00:39, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded again - I reddened it a bit, but the changes aren't showing. If you wanna see it, go to the image page and the picture right below the current one is the real image. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 02:52, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I like it better =) Very pretty. I see nothing wrong. 03:55, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Paleclaw... Thanks! It looks amazing!!!! <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 12:19, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful. :D Maybe the earpink could be a bit neater, but other than that, its perfect! 00:22, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

No problem at all. ^^ Glad I could help. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:56, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Umm, do I have to fix the ear pink? I really don't want to tamper with what's already there. And Nightshine said a while ago that the ear pink was good - and I haven't touched it since then. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 12:45, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, well Nightshine's the leader, and the Clan Leader's word is law xD Otherwise, I think its ready! 23:00, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Just blur the shading some more and this will be ready. 19:52, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, everyone. I graduated on Friday, and I haven't been on since. Anyways... Re-uploaded. I AM NEVER DOING TAWNY CATS AGAIN! <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 16:05, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

I think this is perfect. sorry if I sound like an idiot for asking this, but I don't even know what color tawny is, so I'll assume this is tawny. 16:10, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights/shading curvier on the tail. 03:19, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the head. 01:46, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Huh. I thought it looked fine. But, if that's what you want, then I guess I'll have to do it. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 15:30, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Does that seem better, SquirrelFlame? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 15:42, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yay! It's great! 16:18, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

The lineart is blurred at the top of the head.Other than that it's great! --Dovey Newbie! 20:21, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and add more highlights. This look ready 20:46, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

There's a bit of blurred lineart on the forehead, and darken the shading, as suggested by Sandstormrocks32.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:43, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is far too red, make it pinker slightly. Other than that, good! Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 17:03, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pinkish, slightly purplish. Mist: <font color="Teal">Not emo, not a psycho, not a freak, but a loner. 18:45, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. 06:50, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Guys, just letting you all know I am still working on this, but, re-uploads will be slow, due to the fact I can only get on every other day...if that. Please don't decline this. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 17:28, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is still too purple. Make it pink. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 07:39, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

I never re-uploaded it, Leopardclaw. xD^ But, now I did. Re-uploaded. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 12:13, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. CBA? 00:57, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:00, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Also make it a teeny bit smaller and blur. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  00:56, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:07, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Umm, yeah. I just can't get online every day. I'll fix it now. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 21:46, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval
&nbsp My first image! Anyways, comments? 12:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights Crystalstar999 15:10, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the little shading outline lots, add highlights to the back, head and tail, add shading to the legs. 19:34, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

There is shading on the legs xD Nevermind! But you know what I mean XD 19:36, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Blur the highlights, redden, enlarge and center the ear pink. 22:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and title this Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval...nvm, I'll do it XD 22:11, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the ear-pink, and add a highlight to his face. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:54, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the neck and belly and thicken it. Fix the blurred ear lineart. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:02, April 7, 2011 (UTC

With request from Willow, I am going to help with this image. ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 11:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 04:35, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading tons, add highlights, and enlarge earpink.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:39, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading Night  shine  00:21, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:14, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I can work on it now. Thanks anyways Yatz. BTW Can somebody give me a color for the earpink? 12:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

You can use this chart to determine the earpink colour:  15:34, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

and blur the highlights. 00:02, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the neck and the belly and blur it. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and blur it tons. 20:00, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Could somebody help me on this? Because I'm confused. Some people said to darken the shading and then suddenly another person says to lighten it. 10:39, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't say lighten it, but if you followed this guide for shading the image would be a lot better =)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫   00:04, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

you can also blur the shading so that it flows from light to dark/ light to dark. Also redden the ear pink just a tad, if your not scrutinizing it, then it can disappear to the viewer. Amazing work Willowwhisper! (and great name!) <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 23:06, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Atelda! =) Could anybody help me fix the shading? I tried it, and it looked horrible. 11:49, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help with the shading. Night shine  22:30, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I tweaked the shading and ear pink. Night shine  22:38, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Nightshine! It looks awesome! 03:08, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the shading a bit. 19:10, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:02, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Should I sill blur the shading more? 10:34, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Willow! 10:52, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, blur the shading a bit more, as well as the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:03, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Sorry I haven't been able to work on this. My grandma died suddenly a few days ago, and now my dad is at the hopital because of a car accident. Anyways...comments? 12:09, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Why does everybody on this wiki have bad luck? wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 01:11, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good the only thing is you might want to make the earpink smaller and blur it more Wild  fire  01:46, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I keep blurring the shading, but it doesn't look any different! Can someone help me on it again? 11:20, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'll blur it for you! 20:44, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I re-uploaded it for you, but the changes might not be showing yet. 21:00, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, my computer isn't working very well. Here it is with the shading blurred. 21:10, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be a tad bit brighter 00:21, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the ear pink needs to be a bit darker. If you lighten it then it will be even harder to see. Smudge the shading all around. Darken the shading. Night shine  00:47, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

You should also add a little shading to the tail, otherwise it looks great At  el  da  03:12, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

So...let me get this straight. Darken the shading,darken the earpink, and smudge the shading. Is that right? 11:03, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

LOOKS AWESOME! Apart from the fact that I can barely see the earpink. Darken that a tad, Willowwhisper. Darken the eye colour a tad, too. Only a tiny bit. It's a TINY bit more pale than before, and it had a hint of green to it and my first glance. Take a look at my first Charart(for PCA). It's Stormfur's prey hunter image. Mine sucks!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:13, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Don't critisize your own charart XD And define the earpink. 22:48, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How does it look? 11:51, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton and blur the earpink. :3 20:27, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred it as much as I could. 08:43, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the ear and right side of the head. Do you need help blurring the shading? Because it is still sorely in need of blurring. }  wild    heart   ~    05:12, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

If there are highlights, they are blotchy and need to be blurred and brightened. The shading needs to be blurred too. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:28, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the shading needs to be really blurred. The earpink should be a little smaller and lighter. 20:45, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Argh! I need help again. Please? 11:36, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I help you blur it if you add the shading first. Do you use GIMP or pixlr? 06:59, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

If you need blurring help, I can do it for you. 02:44, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I use pixlr, and I did add shading.... 08:32, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights looks sort of odd and blur the ear pink 23:14, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Go blur crazy with the highlights. They stick out a lot.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:28, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I did blur crazy. It didn't work. -_- Help? 13:02, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Would you like me to blur in photoshop for you? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 17:14, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Did you change the opacity on your blur tool? I think if you put it to 100%, it should help blur it more. I use GIMP so I'm not sure if it's different for Photoshop. 22:17, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah as said before with the blurring and maybe to help stop it sticking out maybe lighten it. I'm not sure if that would work...Lark That Sings at Dawn 11:13, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yes please Cloudskye! 14:00, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Willow, I'm working on your image now. I kinda had to lighten the shading too, in order for me to work with it. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:30, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I tried my best to fix the shading, Willow, but I couldn't lighten it all the way without killing what you already had up there. If someone else wants to finish what I started, please do so. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:46, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I use Adobe Photoshop. Is the head highlight supposed to cover the whole head? 'couse, right now, to me, it looks like he's wearing a pale mask. The haunch highlight is a bit too wide and messy-looking to me, too. And lighten the earpink a tad. I'll do all that(except earpink adjustement) on Adobe Photoshop, and put another version at the bottom of Whiskernose's section in with my next post, if you'd like.(Look, I'm an Apprentice of this Project, so I don't want to kill your good Charart altogether and mess it up by replacing the Charart at the top of this section).- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:03, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Kittycat, don't upload a new image. Reupload your edited version of the image over the image ^up there^ and if they don't like it, they can revert the edit on the file. 207.81.88.82 22:58, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry, that was me. 23:02, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Why the hell did I think I could fix it?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:49, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be blurred big time! 02:08, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

I can blur it if you'd like. I assume the changes aren't showing? It doesn't look any different from the last time you reuploaded it. 05:21, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm surprise this hasn't been declined yet, since I haven't worked on it a lot....anyways, thanks Kitty! @Widheart: Please help me blur it! When you're done, tell me, and I'll take over. 10:55, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it for you =) 03:20, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, it looks much better with the blurring you gave it, Wildheart.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 07:42, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

OMG! Thank you so much Wildheart! 11:55, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lol no problem. I'm glad you like it. @Kittycat - maybe it's just the tools you were using? 00:42, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! define the earpink. 00:18, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and define the ear pink. 03:21, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I don't know if the changes are showing yet. BTW, what does define mean? 11:17, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define means to either make it less blurry, lighter, or darker, to make it more visible. It still could be more defined. 22:17, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. Before you say anything more about blurring the highlights, anyone, take a look at Rainwhisker's warrior image: This Charart was approved, and his highlights are the same as Whiskernose's, which everyone is telling Willowwhisper, Whiskernose's artist, to blur. If an image with the same sticking-out highlights has been approved, shouldn't we stop saying 'blur the highlights'?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:26, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I just don't have the time to work on this anymore. If anyone wants to work on this image, feel free. 10:22, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

I can take over. 10:23, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the SHADING in the circled areas:

Blur it only a tad on the neck. And the reason the main back leg is circled is that you need to blur the highlight at the tip of the hind paw into the paw shading. They're unnaturaly, noticably seperated. Oh ya, and blur the edges of the face highlight a tad bit. Other than all the circled areas and the face highlight, this Charart is almost ready to go up, I think!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:49, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Because of the uploading probelm, I don't know if the changes are showing. So here is how it looks right now: Image 10:38, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink and blur the shading just a little more. 20:08, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading the blur the highlights 03:10, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'll be able to work on this in three days. Sorry for the delay. 03:50, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The changes are showing! Yay! xD Comments? 04:47, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Kk, I am begging you all, PLEASE DON'T ADD ANY MORE COMMENTS DEMANDING BLURRING OF THE HIGHLIGHTS! It's getting stupid. I mean, in some people's perspective, the highlights are over-blurred. Just leave them, okay? Look at Rainwhisker's image I uploaded into this section to set an example! Are his highlights sticking out? YES! Um, anyway, Rainy, blur shading.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:38, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lol Kitty! Anyways, reuplaoded. 05:42, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great Rainy! Blur the shading. And the earpink doesn't look like the right color. Could you fix it? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:17, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the earpink color was Mossy who chose it. I asked her for advice, and she helped me fixed it instead. I'll ask her again I guess. BTW, how do I make the background transparent? 10:15, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading or lighten it. Mist: <font color="Teal">Not emo, not a psycho, not a freak, but a loner. 18:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still looks dark in one area and light in the other, especially on the face. Maybe blur it more? 19:15, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

You were thinking exactly what I was thinking Squirrelflight! Anyways, I will see what I can do to make it look better. 10:37, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Anyone know how to make the background transparent? 11:20, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

You take the wand tool (which looks like a wand), and click the outside of the cat. Then press CTRL and X. Hope this helps. -- Moon  leaf  01:05, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

It didn't work. =( Can someone help? 13:13, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

I can help, if you want me to. 21:29, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Thanks Mossy, for helping me blur it and make the background transparent! @Ivystripe - Thanks for the offer, but Mossy helped me. Comments? 00:38, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading, and darken the ear pink 06:35, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ugh! I am freaking out about the earpink. I don't know which color to use. Can somebody give me a specific color for the earpink if the color I am using right now is to dark? Thanks. BTW, comments? 09:41, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, Rainey. Why not try using the ear pink from his apprentice image, and see how that works out? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 18:26, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I used Cloudskye's idea, but darkened the earpink a bit more. Comments? 13:51, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the chest shading so it looks more even, and then make the earpink a little smaller. This looks great! 14:59, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. When I smudged the chest, it looked a bit..weird. So I just blurred it more, and then resized the earpink. Comments? 10:46, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

This charart is looking fabulous! The earpink looks great, too. 04:50, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Anything else? Comments? 10:21, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

COMMENT. XD

Blur the earpink just a smidgey smudgy smoo. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  00:59, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How does it look? Comments? 13:19, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear-pink a tad redder. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 22:59, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Can somebody help me with that? I am not good at darkening shading and I can't find the right color for the ear-pink. -_- 08:20, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

You want me to give it a try? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 21:27, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes please! :3 00:17, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Well, I tried. I hope I didn't make it worse. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 19:04, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Cloud With Star in Belly-For Approval
Comments? 21:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... This is supposed to be up in the "Images Pending Aproval" section, not the discussion area. <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 17:36, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved this for you. I think you shold blur the shading down his back a more. Leopardclawxx 19:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little bit, it kinda extends below the ear a little bit. Make it a tad bit smaller 19:27, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Cloud (Star).elder.png. Cloud (Storm) and Cloud (Star) are not the same cats. 19:40, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, actually, they are. Think about it. The Erins wouldn't make a Tribe elder with a name so similar to another Tribe elders' name from a different book. I'm sure it was just a typo. - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:04, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, I just read the article in the discussion section XP - G  inger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:08, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, one of the good ol' characters. This is however, wonderful. Make the ear pink a bit more...well, matching the gray pelt. Add shading to the chest and forehead. And, add shading around the haunch if you aren't going to add highlights. -- 02:20, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * The heading should also be changed, just so people don't get confused. XP I agree that Cloud with Star in Belly is a different cat from Cloud with Storm in Belly, and besides, if it wasn't this would be declined. Cloud with Storm in Belly already has an elder image. Darken the shading just slightly. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. 09:37, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is thick and blotchy, thin it out and blur it, and make the ear pink fit the ear, it's a bit messy. 17:38, April 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the shading thinner, add some to the chest, legs, muzzle, and paws. -- 19:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Redo the entire image because it would be easier, and use the apprentice tutorials to help you. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  02:09, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ummm..guys, if you looked on the table, you would see that I already reserved this. Whats going on?
 * 19:47, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lightningstar, you did have this reserved. But you reserved it on the same day this was put up. I say this be declined and you work on it, but its up to the senior warrirors. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  22:07, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 19:47, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Lightningstar, you did have this reserved. But you reserved it on the same day this was put up. I say this be declined and you work on it, but its up to the senior warrirors. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  22:07, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... who reserved it first? Because it goes to them. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   00:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well... I think i reserved t, did the charart, put it up, got off of my comp. and then whoever did the charart uploaded it and didnt see if anyome reserved it. 18:08, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I looked through the edit history and The Gost actually reserved it first. Sorry Lightningstar. Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  22:17, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 08:49, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:34, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. 19:26, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Ummmmmmmmmm, no, they did Cloud with STORM in belly ALT. ELDER. I did this.

20:15, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, since they are different cats, there should be one for each, since they were both mentioned as pale gray. 16:37, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Cloud With Storm in Belly was described as white. Try to make the earpink more triangular. 21:06, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink a tad more too. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:35, April 19, 2011 (UTC) URGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!! Who is doing this, me or them???????? LightningStar of ThunderClan (not logged in) XD

The Gost is doing this one, sorry. Night shine  00:08, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink also looks a tad unnatural. I mean like shade it in the direction of the ear and it goes a tad to far down. when you smudge or blur the earpink make sure you get the bottem, and smudge it to the tip of the ear. otherwise great job, love it! At el  da  01:34, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Two things

1. I put this up FIRST, and that is My image.

2.The Gost is doing Cloud with STORM in Belly Alt.E, not Cloud with Star in Belly

Lightningstar

It doesn't matter who put it up first, but you're right, you did reserve it. Sorry, The Gost, but this is Lightningstar's. Anyway, Lightningstar, please sign with four ~'s when you're on talk pages. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:30, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lightningstar, are you still working on this? If so, redden the earpink. 22:42, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

De-thumb it, and she was just described as a pale grey cat, not sure why you added those on the back. I can't see any shading on this. 23:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Dethumbed. Make it a solid colored cat, she was never described as a tabby. 23:16, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

And perhaps blur the bottem of the earpink some more, and to bring out the shading, you should darken a few places just a little bit, so you don't over do it. At el  da  22:26, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

The things on the back seemed out of place... Sandstormrocks32 03:27, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading and highlights and brighten the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:14, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? Its been a week. 21:46, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, and the person who was working on it first (even though they didn't reserve it first) was putting effort into it. No offense intended ^^; 20:31, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, i will put up the new version in about 3 days time (sooner). Lightningstar (not logged in xD)

Are you still working on this? Because it's been three days. }  wild    heart   ~    05:24, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

May I work on this?

/\ was me Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 09:00, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's been 12 days since Lightningstar reuploaded it. So I believe so. If you do, make this accurate(like, why are those gray lumps there?) <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:52, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think they were supposed to be stripes, but she is a solid colored cat, so remove them, and add highlights. 22:06, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt solid, add highlights and shading, and lighten the earpink Wild  fire  22:13, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Been working on it for 5 days. XD 00:51, May 13, 2011 (UTC) If the shading needs work, i cant get it right (GIMP screwed up) Can someone do it?

What's up with the shading? and did somebody upload it on thier page? Sandstormrocks32 01:09, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

I can help you with the shading if you want me to. 01:51, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Dethumbed. No, Ivystripe, don't help yet. I know GIMP, and I know it can't screw it up that bad. All you need to do is try again with a lighter coloured earpink, and fix the shading so it looks more like the redline on this tutorial. You can also find an earpink chart at the link I gave you. When you're blurring the shading, put the blur tool on 100% and go over it several times. If it's still not good enough, which it shouldn't be, then you can ask Ivystripe (or whomever you wish to ask) for help blurring. I hope I helped. 06:21, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thnks ivy and wildheart! Lightningstar (not logged in)

You're welcome. That's ok, but if you're still having trouble, just ask and I'll try to help :) 16:34, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I just want your charart to be your own, not someone else's =) 00:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC

That is about as well as I can shade. Can someone help? D: 19:57, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help one sec... At el  da  20:25, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so all I did was smooth out the shading shading, you might also want to make the earpink more rounded on the angles. and lighter. At el  da  22:08, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I dethumbed it and do more hightlights 22:11, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs more blurring. Sandstormrocks: highlights are optional. Fill in those light pixels on the far ear. Much better, Lightningstar. 22:23, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and make it smaller. 22:03, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and more highlights 23:11, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Soften the edges of the earpink, and blur it quite a lot. Darken the shading a tad. This is great.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:31, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Also, make the earpink more of the shape of the ear. Let the earpink curve with it. Also, what Sandstormrocks said: Fill in the blank white pixels on the ear furthest from us.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:34, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I tried, but cant do it without re-doing the entire image. 21:05, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Then I guess you might have to redo the whole image. You could just erase the earpink and start over... 22:03, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. What Mistystar said is what I was thinking. This'll never get approved with that earpink.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 06:02, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

It's actually really easy, you won't have to redo the whole thing. Just color pick the color right behind the ear 9the light grey part), color over the ear pink, then use the right color for it and look at others to see how their ear pink looks. Maybe colorpicking off of an approved charart for the ear-pink might help. Let me see if I can find one to help you. 22:20, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

What about Cloud with Storm in Belly's charart? The earpink on that looks good :) 22:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that sounds good, just copy her image and colorpick it off :) I linked to it in the previous comment so it's right there. 21:12, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ok.....sound good,but... how do you do that? Lightningstar(not signed in)

Click the image until it comes up in a blank window, then save it. From there, open it with your editing program and then you can colourpick it. I'm not sure what it's like in other programs, but for GIMP, the colourpicker looks like an eye dropper. 00:00, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks unnatural and the color is too pink 02:28, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make it more natural; Here is an ear-pink chart for help :3

Up-load this in your editing window to get a natural shade of earpink, this is just some optional help =3 00:58, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I use Adobe Photoshop to edit my Chararts. Lightningstar, would you like me to make a third, new version of this Cloud With Star in Belly Charart and put it at the bottom of the section? I'll try to fix the earpink(not only the shape, but colour, too, using the pelt+earpink chart).- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:07, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think you could just do that, since this hasn't been re-uploaded for a long time. 22:56, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Here it is: Is the earpink lightened enough, or too much? And is it curled enough? I did my best.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:46, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Umm...its okay, but the earpink should be reddened more, like Cloud with Storm in Belly's charart...And it could be a bit more curled/triangular, but its better than the current version's earpink. xD 22:52, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

The shading could be blurred some more. Kittycat, delete the above image, and then reupload it over the image at the top, so it doesn't confuse people =P 23:04, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Still work-in-progress, Sorry uys,about the abbcence,but school homwork has cut into my comp time. It will be uploaded, though, and im also going on vaca june 5 untill the following Sunday.

Lightningstar of ThunderClan

Shading needs to be blurred around the haunch. And a little around the tail. 02:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Try to make it seem smoother, not so angular. 02:20, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading by the right front leg could be blurred. 23:56, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

So, fix the earpink, blur the shading. 23:12, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I like it so far, but you really need to blur the earpink. 75.134.29.67

This Should be declined from lack of work.

No, He/she was talking about earlier he/she has limited computer time.

I still think it should be declined from lack of work. If he/ she has limited computer time, he/she shouldn't reserve things like this.

I don't agree. Give her a chance.

this will be declined, then?

I guess.

Wait for an admin to say that this is declined before declining it yourself. This image hasn't even been given a 'Please work on this or it will be declined'. 19:48, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Wait! Don't decline this! Somebody impersonated me- I didn't say that! PLEASE don't decline this! Please... I didn't say that. Believe me... believe me! 19:53, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

This won't be declined. As for the impersonator, I found who it was and warned them. 19:56, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! 19:58, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Still working on this.. sorry about the lack of work, but i have not gotten on the comp in a week, and im going on vaca tomorrow, so can someone add me to the vaca list? again, sorry for the lack of work. Lightningstar

The ear pink needs lightening, and it needs to curve with the ear. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 07:08, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink, curve it with the ear as Leopardclaw said. Blur the ear pink and highlights. 03:24, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. :3 20:06, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Put the version with the new earpink at the top so people don't get confused. 00:03, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Blur back shading. Mist: <font color="Teal">Not emo, not a psycho, not a freak, but a loner. 19:10, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

PLease work on this or it will be declined. 01:48, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back Dovey Newbie! 16:33, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

I could take over :3 <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  20:10, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Why Was i removed from the list? Lightningstar

YA you can take over. Rename this Cloud.elder.png. 18:53, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lightningstar: You were removed because you were probably inactive. And sign with 4 ~'s. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 19:26, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

I can take over this now, 'cause Shy Fawn was approvaled X3 <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  01:04, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm on my mom's computer, which sadly does not have GIMP. I did the best I could with Pixlr, which I'm sad to say is only good with Colour Replace and Layers. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  01:18, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

B-B-But I HAVE been working on this. I think someone has removed my posts, because I have been active EVERY DAY. Dont you think its wrong to rip someones FIRST charart away from them?Lightningstar

I'm sorry Lightningstar, but you HAVEN'T been active everyday. You can go to your user contributions and see that. As far as I know, nothing can be deleted from there, so that's proof that you were inactive for a while. Even if you came on everyday, you didn't DO anything. And also, please sign with four ~s. And as for the charart, the earpink's blurred now, so that's good, but it's still really hot pink. I'd suggest just redoing it. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 19:23, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the ear pink is really bright. You should try making it more like the shape of the ear itself... like, round the edges more ;) But it looks good!! 00:00, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you could make the ear so it didn't look like a triangle as much, but this charart's great. 13:56, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, i will have it up tomorow, GIMP crashed again, and can someone add me back on the list? 16:13, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Snow Falling On Stones(TB)~For Approval
Okay, so here's Snow! Her eye was really hard to do. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px; "> My fluffy yellow  <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px; ">cake!

Umm...it seems kind of small... Fix the ear pink. 22:51, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and move it to the right section XD 22:52, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'll fix the ear pink but...................................I don't know how to put it into the correct section. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Moved to the correct section. Blur the shading and tone down the highlights, they look too bright. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:53, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Why is it so small? It IS full size right? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:17, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't think its full size, and the background isn't clear, either. Did you use GIMP? 01:05, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

If this isn't full size, you might have to redo it :/ Did you get the full size of the to-be lineart? 01:06, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

It looks as if you used the real color white to fill the image. If you do that its not right. Use very pale gray. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  02:11, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...................I'm pretty sure this is full-size, from what I got it at. I think it's small, too. I will delete the back-ground. No, I did not use GIMP; I used Photoshop, as that's all I have. Yes, I did use the real color white to fill the image, so I will put in pale grey instead. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

When you save it, click on it, then, click the mangenfier then is should have a full size image that looks like;

<-That (With out the thumbnail) Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:46, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I took off the thumbnail, so now you can use it. 21:50, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll redo it. Thanks for the blank, I thought the other one looked small. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

And rename this Snow.tb.png 02:09, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay, I TOTALLY redid her. Any better? Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Shading's pretty blotchy. Blur that and lighten the earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   21:42, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

And perhaps define the shading a little more once blurred. Blur the ear more after lightedning the earpink, Great job, It's going to be great! <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 22:49, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay. Blurred shading more, lightened earpink. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Wow this looks great! Comments before approval? Night shine  22:13, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be blurred and darkened. 22:19, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

And there are a couple white pixels on the very bottom of her front paw (closest to us)  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 08:13, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

I see them. Die, little white pixels! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 11px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:21, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Darkened and blurred shading. Also fixed the pixels. Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki"><sup style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 11px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; vertical-align: super; "> My fluffy yellow cake!

Define the earpink. 19:29, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and are to-bes supposed to have mud? Just wondering... 19:31, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

No I don't think they are, but I'm not entirely sure. The ear pink looks fine to me, but the shading could be thickened a little. Night shine  05:27, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a bit light.... Are they supposed to be grey or did you forget to color them in? I've done that before. ^^; Maybe make them a different color like blue or something? They look too much like the pelt color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:48, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw; try darkening the eye color a bit so it's more visible. And try lightening and shading the paws a bit; they look sort of flat. Koisplash 07:42, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

No, the eyes are not grey; they're pale, pale green. And, no, to-bes don't have mud, but I can add it if you want. 21:35, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Okay, darkened eye-color and defined the shading. 21:25, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten the earpink a bit more. It's a wee bit hot pink right now XD  wildheart     spr ing rai n ♫ 01:00, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Shading needs to be smudged just a tad like wildheart said, (i know, shading can be a bit difficult ;D) and it looks like there is a lot of dark to the shading, so perhaps you could lighten it just a little, It's really great, good job! At el  da  03:19, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice! Redden the earpink. 22:23, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it be declined. Night shine  00:42, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! I've been busy! Almost finished! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Re-uploaded: Sorry everyone! I've been busy lately! Is she any better? 22:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading then blur it. 23:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. 00:17, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the bottem of the tail a tad more. It looks amazing! At el  da  03:15, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

And redden the earpink a bit. 21:48, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? It's been over a week. If you are, the eye color could still use a little more brightening. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 17:11, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brightening, or darkening? I'd say it needs to be darkened, since it looks too pale. 20:40, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well it needs to stand out more. You could brighten it more (saturate it, and make it more intense) or you could darken it. Either way, it works. But if you are working on this, your uploads need to be more consistant. 23:29, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I know. I'm really sorry. Almost done. Now, how would someone with Photoshop brighten this image. I get where you're coming from, and I agree, but a few hints would be helpful. 01:13, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, scratch that. Sorry, I can't work on her anymore. It's the end of the school year, and I'm just too busy to focus on her. I wish I could, but I can't. I still want to be a member of PCA, just I'm a bit busy at the moment. 20:07, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

If Cardinalfire isn't working on this anymore, May I take over? 00:18, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sure. Night shine  19:59, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Great, thanks =) 22:50, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Her ear pink is very light and it looks like her eyes aren't coloured in. 02:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Before I re-upload this, does the previous charart need to be archived? Or do I continue off this? 17:28, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You can continue off this. 18:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded or '''Re-Did. '''Did I place it right? xD Comments? 19:56, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading; make the earpink less blotchy. Nice work! 22:05, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make her long-furred. Make the eyes more noticable. 72.95.163.62 12:39, May 17, 2011 (UTC)(Honey)

It doesn't HAVE to be long furred. There's no reference for her being long furred and she has no previous chararts, so it's completely optional at this point. This is awesome! I see nothing wrong with it other than what was previously stated. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 15:48, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, if there's no reference for fur length, then its the user's choice. 22:06, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I worked on it for awhile but I can't get the shading correct :\ 22:49, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the shading is kind of blotchy...you might have to redo it D: 23:37, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading as well. 01:50, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't re-uploaded since Tuesday, I've been sick and studying for my exams next week. I'll have it up this evening =) 17:36, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I'm afraid the shading is too light DX 20:36, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Not really; Blur the shading and fix the earpink. 23:01, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

See if you can dodge the back front paw a little more. Just a little. 02:24, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Sorry I was having some editing problems. The shading still looks a tad blotchy and light, even if there are no comments I'll fix it again tomorrow morning. 02:47, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the paws until they match the rest of the shading. With the currect light source, it doesn't make sense for them to be light. 07:53, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry guys, My brother installed Windows 7 on my computer where the charart is and my computer is having difficaulties. So...It will be maybe in a day or so. Bare with me please :\ 21:32, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...fix the earpink and blur the shading. 23:14, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded finally :\ I think I can already tell the earpink is off, I'll fix it next re-upload. Anyways, I added more shading on the legs. 20:19, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work! The earpink should be smaller and more blurred, though. 23:12, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How's this? 03:23, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Such a pretty charart. It looks wonderful. Just one thing- the bottom of the earpink looks a little bit straight, like a line. Otherwise, perfecto! 01:39, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Thank you :) 18:50, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit. Awesome job! 23:04, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 01:24, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Define the tail highlight/shading, and maybe make the earpink a bit straighter, and it will be perfect! 22:13, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 23:54, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Great work! Maybe lighten the legs a little? Just a little? 01:56, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 18:56, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

It's beautiful Splook. 8D Just make the earpink a teeny bit bigger. :3 20:03, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:21, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the legs and add more highlights. This should be ready soon. I would do it right now but I'm not even a warrior.. 03:15, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I talked to Frostheart on the IRC, she asked me to show her the image. When I did, We both agreed the shading and highlights are fine, But told me to blur the shading so I did. 04:13, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink, scoot it down, and blur the shading. Good job Splash! <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:34, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Notice: I shall be gone until Wednesday afternoon. I will re-upload this then. 00:33, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks a bit too big. It fills up the entire ear. 19:18, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add a bit of highlight to the tail. Mist: <font color="Teal">Not emo, not a psycho, not a freak, but a loner. 19:20, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I was just following the other comments to keep making the earpink bigger. So, I dunno if it is too straight, big, or small as of now. 17:10, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Snow.tb.png. The W is capitalized for some reason. 18:54, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-named. Sorry about that ^.^' 19:14, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

brighten the ear-pink and add transparency between the hind legs. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 23:03, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 01:17, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty! If you can, blur the shading on the tail a tad. 04:54, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 16:11, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. I see like, nothing wrong with this! 15:08, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the shading needs to be darkened. It looks fantastic, Splashy. ^-^ 17:36, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Nor do I. Thanks Roo :]  19:50, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Bird That Rides the Wind (E)- For Approval
Gotta﻿ few things to say. I tried to make the stripes as consistent as possible. And I borrowed all the colors from Bird's rogue image. I'm proud of this. What do you guys think? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! The ear pink looks kind of blotchy, blur it more. 22:14, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Lighten the earpink and darken the shading/markings. Also blur the highlights. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫   00:10, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

You should change this to grey-brown tabby. 17:23, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I'm not too sure that this should be gray-brown. Bird has always been gray tabby, I think she was mistakenly called gray-brown in SOTM. How's this? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  18:24, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

But then why is it on the top of the page, but not in the trivia? 21:27, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful, Mintstarr. Make the neck stripes pointier.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:33, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Changes aren't showing yet. Thanks Mistystar, Wildheart, and Mistfire. On the gray-brown, she was just a gray tabby in Moonrise and Outcast, so I kept it there. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:45, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! The earpink is a little blotchy, though. 16:32, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Should I redo the stripes? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:27, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, if you can fix them up as they are now then you won't have to redo it. You should try making the stripes look like the ones on her rogue image. Night shine  05:26, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very good! Blur the shading on her back; it sort of stands out too sharply against the pale gray. Koisplash 07:44, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I didn't change the stripes, but if they're too much of a problem, I will fix them. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:06, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripes need to be defined a little. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 18:35, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Which ones? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  21:30, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

All of them. Desaturate th earpink. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 00:58, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

You could also smudget the highlighting so it looks more natural, and dont for get the tail for shading, nice job, love Half Moon, and the charart will make it even better! At el  da  23:04, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I think I just made it worse. I used the burn tool (pixlr users)/shading tools (GIMP and others). Is it okay? <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  01:36, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

GIMP users have burn tools, too =P Darken the stripes some more, blur the shading, and sharpen the stripes. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 02:03, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- The stripes look really sloppy to me, I might just redo the whole image. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  15:00, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I did a new way to make the stripes. (Shading/highlights before stripes.) I think its better than the tutorials version. And I got the stripes darker, finally! <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  20:05, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Try to make the stripes on the haunch a bit thinner and let them curve a bit, they look a bit unnatural. Sharpen the points on the stripes near the head. Move the highlight on the face up a bit more so it touches the forehead, center the ear-pink and fix the blurred lineart in the ear. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:28, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- There is no blurred lineart in the ear, its part of a stripe and the ear pink is centered. <span style="color:black;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:purple;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;">MINTSTARR  You can stand under my Umbrella!  17:34, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bottem of the earpink, and smudge the stripes just a bit, or you could blur them, whichever. And it seems like half the stripes are kind of boxy, and the other ones are pointed like triangles. It kind of looks off but that could be my opinion. It's just a thought, but it'll look great! At el  da  21:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes on the face should be a bit pointier. Nice work! 22:19, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- @Atelda, it is a tabby pattern, so its okay :). How's this? <span style="color:salmon;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:maroon;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:saffr;">MINTSTARR  I need a new siggie!  00:19, April 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think it's better. CBA? -- 21:46, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Really sorry to interrupt CBA, but the earpink seems a bit blotchy, and the lineart there is blurred. Fix that, and I think its ready! 22:29, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think it only looks blotchy because that is a stripe, not blurred lineart. But I'll change it. From here on out, that isn't blurred lineart, it is a stripe. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:45, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. and make the earpink neater and smaller. 00:48, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- If this shows up twice, my computer is messing up. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  01:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading a bit. 21:06, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes a bit so they look a bit more like her Cavegaurd image. Otherwise, nice job! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:37, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading needs to be defined a bit, and maybe add highlights, or if there are, define them a little. Also, the ear pink looks weird. Make it closer to the right side of the ear, or just look at the placement of an accepted image. I hope I helped. 00:13, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- The shading is fine. And there are highlights, and they look okay to me too (I did blur them.) And on the ear I added a stripe there. I was told to darken the stripes so I don't know. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  22:01, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see any shading on the stripes. The stripes are a lot darker than the ones on her other images, so lighten them. Thin out the stripes and add more. Darken the shading. Make the ear pink triangular. Night shine  00:41, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Make the two stripes on the head a tad shorter and give a point to them. 22:49, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't like anything about this image, especially the haunch stripes. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  00:11, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes a lot. Right now they don't really match her cave guard image, so tweak them a bit so they do. wildheart    spr ing rai n ♫ 03:26, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- the changes haven't been showing for both images (most recent two.) <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  19:49, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I didn't like that image, so I fixed it up. I hope you guys like the stripes. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  20:38, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

They're pretty good ;D Add highlights to the tail. 22:07, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like some of the stripes were drawn over the hightlights, so can you try and fix that? Other than that it looks great. ^^ 22:20, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

There are highlights on the tail. And originally, I had the highlights over the stripes, but everyone was telling me to define the stripes. I filled it in with gray, drew the stripes, highlighted it, then shaded it, and added earpink and eye color like the tutorials say to, but the shading darkend some of the stripes and the tips were brightend by the highlights. It's a confusing mess but that's why I drew the stripes over the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:55, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad. Apart from that, it looks good!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:11, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

The single stripe on the head looks kind of out of place.... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 15:53, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw on that. Could another one or two be added? Like, by the eyes, perhaps? It's possible to do. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 19:06, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- ^^Fail. No, that isn't blurred lineart by the eyes. Adding one stripe was actually very hard, and making it curve was harder. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:orange;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">MINTSTARR  Want to eat orange ice cream?  21:12, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

It looks really good, even if it was hard. Job well done. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:32, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

It has been five days since I reuploaded it. CBA? No, I'm not a lead. sigh... comments? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:49, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think its good, but wait for a lead to CBA it. ;D 22:09, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think you need to redo the stripes. Right now they're too dark and don't really match her caveguard image. I hate to be the one to say it, but somebody has to. 23:34, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Those are the stripes on her rogue image. The caveguard has too much mud to tell what the stripe pattern is except on the haunch. I'll redo them, but they won't be caveguard stripes. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  01:25, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

By what I can see, the stripes on her cave-guard image are kind of wavy. 02:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I think I forgot something. 75.91.242.179 19:49, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:51, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes along her back. 22:58, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are still too dark, and the stripes still don't match. Do you want me to put up a redline? =) 00:32, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You can if you want to, but I don't see I can't use her rogue image. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:06, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I could hardly tell on any of her images. I think the stripes need to be blurred out a little, it appears to have a few inconsistencies which should smooth out with it being blurred on 100% 21:10, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any consistencies, and everything has been blurred on 100% already. I'm waiting for the redline, which Wildheart has told me might be ready on next ready Wednesday. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  01:06, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I can also do one, if she doesn't have the time or forgot. :P I love doing redlines. 08:07, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I made a redline for you, because I think you've waited long enough for one and are obviously having trouble with the stripes. I hope no one minds. ._. 08:32, May 20, 2011 (UTC)



I think it's alright Mossy. Yeah Mint, I would use that. Lark That Sings at Dawn 11:17, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I have the image ready, don't decline, but I'm having trouble reuploading it. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  22:03, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

You're having issues, too? I can't get my charart to reupload either. 22:07, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it won't reupload! And it's killing me because I like it a whole lot better! I need help. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  22:13, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Hope you guys like it! <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  23:49, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

This is lovely. Blur the shading a bit and curve the earpink. 00:19, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

... It's the same stripes as you used to have on the old version, but when you look at the previous versions of it, it has the same stripes as the redline. Is it supposed to have the old stripes right now? Anyways, looking at the one that used the redline, the eyes are a bit too neon, and the stripes around the shoulder area could be defined a bit. Other than that it looks AMAZING! ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:57, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Redden and blur the ear pink 13:36, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Thank you Paleclaw for your compliment! Comments? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  13:47, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. 20:42, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I hope you guys like this. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  00:21, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 03:59, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred the shading. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  13:42, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur it more. Way more. 18:51, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Is the back shading too blurred? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:47, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think the back looks fine, possibly define the shading on the face. At el  da  23:22, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

There is no shading on the face. That's a highlight, which stands out to me. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  02:07, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

No, the back shading is most definitely not blurred too much, it actually needs to be blurred more. Blur it as much as whatever program you're using will let you. :) And if you can't see it after it's blurred, just darken it. ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:22, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Arg! Back Shading! <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  23:51, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Why is there an older image up? I reuploaded a new one. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:44, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The chararts are taking a long time to show up after uploads. Could you add a little more highlighting/shading to the tail? 23:03, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- reuploaded. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  22:26, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Is your newer/current version the one that used the redline, or the original type of tabby? 22:43, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit, but not the stripes. Darken the line on the back of light shading so that it matches the rest of the shading and curve the earpink a tad. 23:08, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- the new version is up. Changes aren't showing. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  21:53, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Changes are now showing. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  21:06, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken that bit on the back and curve the earpink. 07:54, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I'll rename it later, it took forever to reupload. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  18:05, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks a teensy bit too big. On the left side of it, shorten it up a tad while keeping the curve in it. Lovely work! 19:18, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- same problem as last time, so I'll fix it when it's on CBA. I just tweaked it because I didn't like the earpink. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  22:56, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading where I circled. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; You don't need to reupload an entirely new file every time you make a tweak to the image. Instead, just reupload over the old file. 00:53, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- @Wildheart, I understand how reuploading works. Anyways, I'm not sure if the new file reuploaded. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  13:50, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:23, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- It's on the image history, won't reupload. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  01:41, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Just add some shading to the tip of the tail.

Awesome! Just blur the shading on the chest a ''tad. ''Looks great :) 20:22, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it does :) Make the earpink more neat. 23:20, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Changes aren't showing yet. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  18:05, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

It's the second image on image history. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  00:09, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Comments? It's been awhile. 75.91.237.105 23:46, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  23:48, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. The stripes look a little bumpy and not smooth enough. 02:01, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't like the stripe pattern... maybe make them at a different angle? 20:32, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, the stripes are fine. 23:25, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

They look fine to me. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 01:14, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I went ahead and blurred the stripes. It's the second on image history, as usual, so don't comment on the one up there because that's ages old. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  18:13, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. 20:04, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I accidentally blurred all the shading. Is it okay? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:14, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading looks too dark and takes up too much of the body. And if you're going to shade in those areas, shade more behind the ear on the back of the head. 19:20, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a ton and blur it. Maybe add highlights to the face and chest. Mist: <font color="Teal">Not emo, not a psycho, not a freak, but a loner. 19:29, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't really like the lightend shading. Comments? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  23:53, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back, brighten the ear-pink, and brighten the highlight on the face. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 02:58, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest as well. 06:53, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- blurred the shading, how does it look? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  16:28, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur it a bit more. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  21:04, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- How's this? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  03:45, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Will be back on Friday. My computer isn't working, so can someone fix what I kinda did on the vacation list. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  23:56, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the back; they're kinda of lost in the shading. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:33, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

I really hate asking this, because I'm trying to get an image approved without help, but I need help with the stripes. I have had too much trouble with them, would someone mind helping? From there I can take over. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  01:53, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Instead, can I get some tips on how not to make the shading overtake the stripes? <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  14:30, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Night (KM) - For Approval
Boy, getting the mud to look good is hard. xD Comments? 23:04, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think the queens need mud...Brook's doesn't... 23:13, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well all of the other kit mothers do. I'll just wait and see what others say. 23:16, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. For now, just leave the mud. XD Enlarge and blur the earpink. Great work! 23:18, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the mud streaks. Right now she kind of looks like a dark tortoiseshell XD   }   wild    heart   ~    03:17, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mudstreaks, as Wildheart said. Maybe brighten the highlights on the chest a tad. Blur highlight on side. The highlight on the part of the tail closest to the attachment to the back needs blurring and lighten it a bit. Blur the base of the earpink.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:54, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Oh how I hate mud. :3 20:01, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I was wrong. You need to brighten the mudstreaks. Darkening them only made them harder to see XD 23:39, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 00:42, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly and tail. Good job RooRoo! XD 00:58, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:12, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste aroud the charart (top of head and tail) 01:57, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 20:32, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

There's still waste, so erase that. 03:12, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Could you tell me where? Just saying there's waste doesn't help much. 14:43, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Around the charart. 20:39, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, because that's so much help! Where around the charart? 23:00, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also, you might want to just redden the earpink a little, and make the mud more defined. At el  da  18:07, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:34, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger and the mudstreaks brighter. Right now they don't stand out very well. Dramatize the smudging of the mudstreaks, as well; they need to look like they've been hastily slapped on, not like they're part of the pelt. Other than what I mentioned, this is absolutely lovely =) 01:28, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I couldn't make the earpink bigger or else it'll touch the lineart. 20:54, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

The mud covers most of the highlights, so can you make them more visible? Besides that, its wonderful :D 00:26, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the mud also, in some places it blends with the pelt. For the earpink, you might just want to smudge it downwards just a little. Other than that it looks great! At el  da  02:20, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''The changes aren't showing yet. 19:27, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know the changes aren't showing for you, but I just made this redline to point out small things: Red circles are where there's stray pixels. The blue circles is where the lineart is miscoloured. You don't have to use this, it's just because I'm fussy enough to notice, but it's best you do. 01:03, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and brighten the earpink. Make the mud a bit smaller; she looks like a tortoiseshell cat now. 23:21, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

I re-did it, but of course the changes aren't showing yet. xD 23:30, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I tried reuploading it again, and then it would show the new version as the last reuploaded version. xD This has happened to me a lot. So if you go to the file history for this image, the new version is the second image on the list-thing. 17:14, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad and blur the mudstreaks. I like them better now =) 01:02, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Woot! The changes are finally showing. :3 21:12, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, they were showing. >_> 00:35, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit more. 23:31, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing a little? 02:22, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''If I lighten it it will look more like dark gray. Oh and guess what? The changes aren't showing! -gasp- 19:58, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the nose color. This is great Rainy! 21:03, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 22:40, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you could shade just under her chin-head area. There's a tiny line that defines her head from her neck and body, so maybe just a tad bit of shading there? I really like the use of mud in this! Fawngaze 23:38, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is there a blurry thing on top of her head? 19:28, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the mudstreaks, it blends in too well with the pelt. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  21:56, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 20:03, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

She looks beautiful! add some shading to the front of the neck. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  17:31, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mud 00:11, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I'm not darkening the mud. It looks fine to me, and darkening it would make it harder to see. 19:05, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Define the mud streak on the head, It's a little hard to see. These look wonderful, Rainy! 00:35, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:39, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Can you lighten the earpink? It's kinda hard to see. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 00:48, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 18:06, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail. This is looking good! <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌

'''Reuploaded. ''' 14:06, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Marshstar (L) - For Approval
Here he is! Wild fire  20:46, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Darken the shading a bit, make the ear pink fill the ear, define the scar on the haunch. Darken the nose colour as well. Night shine  20:48, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail and the haunch on the left (my left.). Looks good! :) 21:01, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  21:11, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking my advice oh and make the scars on the right front paw longer and possibly a scar on the tail Sandstormrocks32 21:40, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add a touch of shading by the edges of the inner ear to make it look a little less flat, sharpen the scar on his flank, darken the shading under the chin and add shading the under part of the tail. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:24, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

You don't necessarily need to add shading on the earpink, but smudge the pelt colour into it with the smallest brush possible. He doesn't have a scar on his tail, so you don't need to add one. Blur the shading and darken it a bit. 03:46, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the bottom of the haunch closest to us. Apart from that, it looks pretty good!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 07:12, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  19:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear oink then I belive it should be ready 22:13, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  22:35, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading :) 20:07, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 22:01, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:29, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the bottom of the scarred haunch still needs a tad more blurring.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:07, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

And the shading on the chest. 01:16, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:43, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

The nose is gray... 00:42, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

The nose should be gray. Blur the haunch shading and smudge the pelt colour into the ear. 01:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. The haunch scar too. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  20:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think the eyes need some shading as well. 00:28, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

blur the tail shading. 00:32, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Wild  fire  01:13, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the face highlight.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 07:06, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  01:13, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

On the hind leg the shading looks odd, so smudge or blur that just a little. Also you could darken the scar on the hind leg. Darken the eye color and this will be perfect. Good job At  el  da  02:15, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the bottom of the un-scarred front leg. The haunch highlight could do with some blurring/smudging, too. This is cool. I think it should get approved in not too long.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:23, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt colour into the ear, and add some depth in the eye by darkening the bottom pixels. 00:22, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink 12:54, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took the earpink from the deputy charart so I'm going to leave that Wild  fire  15:07, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, especially on the haunch. 19:59, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the middle of the tail, the scarred front leg, and scarred haunch. Those three problems mess it up quite a bit, especially haunch light. Go pretty much blur crazy there. This looks good, apart from my suggestions.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 23:51, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, and smudge the earpink into the ear a bit. 22:44, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  22:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Either lighten the whole thing, or darken the highlights and shading. 14:22, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 22:18, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  23:11, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is wonderful, I see nothing wrong. 01:19, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch. 02:24, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on the tail a little 03:27, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you could shade the area where his haunches meet his left leg and his chest between his legs, since those areas are likely shadowed by his legs. :) Fawngaze 23:33, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wild  fire  15:17, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading and the shading on his front left leg (his left :3). 18:34, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bit on the haunch. 82.42.59.123 19:13, June 14, 2011 (UTC) (Dovewing145 not signed in)

Blur the shading. Sorry, I know it was said, but I can't help it! :D 19:34, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the scars. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:11, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch. 06:56, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

The red is where you need to blur where the highlights meet the base pelt color/shading. The green is where you need to darken/add shading. 17:53, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

More highlights on the face 00:17, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. His left hanuch shading really needs to be blurred. Oher than that I like this :3 20:54, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 15:17, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes 67.237.233.17 02:23, June 26, 2011 (UTC) (Wildfire not logged in)

Reuploaded Sorry I haven't been on Wild  fire  20:33, June 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * points at picture* Errrrrmm.... Blurr the haunch aaaannd..Tats all I got xP --

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Nobody reserved it so I thought I could do it. But I messed up the torn ear. Sandstormrocks32 16:53, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, not bad, needs some work;


 * 1) one make him more golden colored, like his aperentice image is, this is more a horrid yellow-green


 * 1) number two

You might want to copy the red line that was done for his image that was up before this one;

copy the colors for it too


 * 1) three

Darken and blue the earpink some more and make it smaller. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 18:05, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks but it might take a while becuase I'm trying to replicate it. So it might take a while but i am working on it. Sandstormrocks32 18:31, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Almost done... 21:30, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Darken the shading, and lighten the earpink. Blur the stripes as well. 22:18, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

(and smudge if you want) Wild  fire  22:27, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured the striped as I could 22:38, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this Tigerheart.warrior.alt. 22:40, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes more evenly and either add more or make the current ones thicker. Desaturate the earpink. 23:01, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I did as much as possible but it was really hard to make the stripes thicker and blur the stripes but I did my very best 23:09, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded i made the stripes bigger and i changed the ear pink. I hope the changes show! 02:01, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Run over the stripes with the smudge tool to give them a sort of "point". Darken the belly/legs. 20:00, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Make the earpink smaller. 22:00, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded When I reupoad my computer says I have to rename it and I can't do anything about it so I keep having to change the name in someway. 22:47, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Well, you can still upload it onto the same image and keep the same name on the wiki file, even if you rename the file on your computer. 22:50, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded The shading was driving me crazy! But i still have to change the name. I don't know what to do. And it's when I'm inserting the picture. 23:46, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">CBA?! 75.72.59.54 02:08, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The stripes look kinda pasty and the highlights don't go through them. It's like the stripe is over the highlight. Stretch the highlight down the tail rather than leaving it on the tip and darken the shading. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:28, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">MUCH better, blur the pink a tad, do what Scarlet said, and whoever said CBA, that is for the leads to do, not so random person, to do. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 08:16, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">okay 1.go over highlights again and 2.to Reupload the charart you click on it then you click on the little box thing in the bottom right corner then you scroll past the two pictures of your cat and click on 'Upload a new version of this file' and find it on your computer Wild  fire  11:45, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The stripes need highlights/shading too. 21:53, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded @Wildfire I clicked modify and I had to do the same thing 22:58, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Its too light. Are you sure you copied the colors from the apprentice alt? 23:40, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I got it from the red line one but I'll darken it right now

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded Sorry ^ that ^ was me. I darken the whole thing now 00:10, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Now the stripes don't have shading. 00:14, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I put some more hightlights and shading 00:19, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the highlights some more, darken the shading a tad, and blur the stripes. 01:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes and the shoulder and face highlight. This looks great, Sandstormrocks.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Could someone blur it on GIMP for me please? (Sandstormrocks32 not signed in)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I would blur it for you, but I don't have GIMP. 20:51, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">I can help you. Imma talk to you on our userpages. 22:25, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I blured as much as i could but could somebody blur on GIMP please? But I did darken just a little bit. 22:48, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Ok reuploaded for you. I blurred the stripes, some of the shading, got rid of some misplaced pixils, and erased the waste around the erased part of the ear. Hope I helped :) 23:00, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Darken the highlights, darken the shading (I can't really see any) darken the stripes a bit and define them. Night shine  23:18, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Make the ear pink smaller. 00:33, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Looks much better with the highlights and stripes blurred. Blur the shading on the bottom of the tail, and make the earpink a tad smaller, as Squirrelflame advised. Blur shading on the front paw closest to us. This is awesome! :)- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:54, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">OMG! It looks awesome! Darken the shading. 11:24, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I'm having the worst time ever with reuploading! :( 20:52, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The highlights are still too bright. It makes him look shiny. Also, darken the shading a bit more. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 21:54, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reoploaded I fixed the reuploading problem 23:33, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur the stripes and make the shoulder highlight more oval-shaped. 01:59, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded  02:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Blur and darken the highlights. 20:20, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded Never mind I'm still having trouble with reuploading 22:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">From above. What do you mean you clicked modify? Wild fire  18:12, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this 'Tigerheart.warrior.alt' 19:19, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">@Rainlegs Sandstorm is having a problem w/ reuploading I'm trying to help. you can join in on her talk page if you have any suggistions. Wild fire  21:24, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I fixed all the misplaced colors and stuff. @ Wildfire thanks for the help with reuploading the problem is now fixed 00:40, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Rename this Tigerheart.warrior Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 03:45, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Correction, name this Tigerheart.warrior.alt, As Rainlegs stated before =) 20:32, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">The highlights are too light; darken them a bit, and the highlights look kind of greenish on the face... 22:40, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">Reuploaded I don't know how to rename it. Is it possible for somebody else to change the name? Oh and when I press backspace it makes me go back to the previous page 23:12, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Upload the same file, then name it "Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png". Then replace the old image with the new image. That's how you rename it. 00:45, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and make sure to put the "delete" tag on it saying it's a duplicate and an admin will get rid of it. 01:35, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks kind of blotchy. 20:28, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to change the name but I dont think it's wroking too well 22:41, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pale, center it, and blur it. Add shading. Blur the stripes. The highlights are too bright and need to be blurred. And there is blurred lineart on the right foreleg. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  02:01, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the tip Mintstarr. I also fixed the other misplaced pixils 23:19, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Better. Try to blur where the highlights meet the actual pelt color and/or darken them. :) 02:51, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured as much as I could and i darkened the highlights 14:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job!! You might just want to blur the earpink a bit more, and darken the legs that aren't in front. At el  da  00:52, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did that and I don't think the way Wildfire told me how to do it isn't woking too well... It keeps reuploading the same picture. Is anybody having the same problem? 01:42, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I am, too. Just upload it twice everytime you need to reupload it, and tell people that the correct image is the one under the 'current' one on the file page. 02:43, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't understand like, half of that but I'll try to do that next time. 03:13, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights are way too light, they look kind of greenish. 00:37, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I did what Rainlegs said to do, and It worked but it's not showing and I reuploaded it like 3 time and it didn't work. But it is under the "current" one on the file page. 00:57, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the entire thing. The colors don't match the apprentice pic anymore. Also darken the shading, and sharpen the stripes around the shoulder/neck area. And MAYBE get rid of the highlights, as it still makes him likke a bit too shiny, but that's up to you. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:50, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

And the earpink is kind of blotchy, fix that. 22:17, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded To dark? I don't know what I was doing... So comments? 22:54, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is still blotchy; And the highlights are still too light and too small. 23:00, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I sort of got rid of the hightlights becuase they were making him look grennish. And I ended up re-doing the ear pink and. 00:11, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The changes don't seem to be showing... 00:18, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, he is brown make him golden Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 08:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Does he look better now? 21:15, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful! Blur the tabby markings, please. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 21:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks really blotchy, though. Define and redden and blur it. 23:36, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's under the current one on the file page. Just to let you know...

Hmm...the shading in the back needs to be blurred a bit more...or if there are highlights right next to the shading...the different shades/highlights should blend together a bit better...I know that sounds sort of confusing...but just try blurring the back shading. Wow I'm starting to ramble ;P Otherwise...this is pretty good. :)

Yeah, blur the highlights and shading. 21:58, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yeah I can't really blur anymore than this... 00:12, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

You might want to have more then four little spots of highlights. Where's your light source coming from? 21:04, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Well the light source is between the tip of the tail and the ear.Somewhere between there or in tha general area... 23:18, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. A lot. And make them bigger. And darker. xD 23:19, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. It fills up the ear too much. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 20:20, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. The ear pnk is too angular at the top corner. 02:27, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:54, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, it's looking much better from when it started! The earpink's a bit too red right now though. Lighten it a bit, Also take the eye color from his apprentice image. This is looking great! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 19:05, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks too big. And blur it too. This is a lot better! 16:26, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Why does ear pink have to be so hard... 17:41, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink and blur the shading. 20:25, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a tad, and make the earpink more triangular, along with lightening it, making it more pink and less red. Maybe add a highlight to the ears? They look too dark to me. This is great.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 05:40, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the tip, Kittycat 14:50, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

I love this character art! I suggest that you maybe lighten the part of the tail that faces upwards and maybe the tip of the un-torn ear? It seems as though the lighting is coming from above in some parts so.... Oh! And maybe you could darken the back paw, the one that is less visible and isn't really "facing" us. Since it is under Tigerheart's body or on the otherside it should probably be just slightly darker! Fawngaze 23:28, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Very odd request but I think I did what you wanted 15:28, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh Sandy, I don't wanna sound mean, but this whole thing, not right. The highlights need to be more circular, and only on the face and haunch. The shoulder highlight needs to be ovaly, while the tail tip is obvious. Shade the back, legs, tail, mid-back to underbelly, and stomach to chin. Smudge and blur the stripes, and desaturate the earpink. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  19:42, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Though I did do the shading I just darkened it and put the highlights differently. I don't really know what ^that^ means so I did nothing to the ear pink... I'm not the best in engilsh class 02:45, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot. Reuploaded 

I think this is great and I really like it. CBA? . Darkhallows   Enter the cave?

I dont think that was actually Darkhallows, just someone using her siggie, but either way, darken the neck and mid section shading. 04:00, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded You do know that it's the second one on the file page, right? 14:58, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

There are some speckledy bits above the torn ear - erase them. Also, make the earpink pinker. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 15:42, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Are those things gone? 16:26, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Some markings look more blurred than other markings. Blur them all again? 19:37, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the markings, earpink, and shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:27, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I have blured 14:27, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur it more, and make the earpink smaller. 16:43, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more neck shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:14, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller and more triangular. 00:34, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Curse you ear pink! 16:25, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Can you lighten up the shading? This seems way too dark. If I'm wrong, then sorry. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 18:21, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's your comment 17:14, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading more? 17:29, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I can't blur it anymore then this... 15:45, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, this is great! I see nothing wrong with it. Bluestar11796 01:41, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Pinestar (Alt. L) ~ For Approval
It was declined due to lack of work, so I thought I'd give it a try. XXXSpecklestreamXXX 06:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks lovely! ^^ Blur the shading/highlights a bit more and maybe smudge or blue where the earpink meets the fur.

^ That was me, sorry, forgot to sign. XP ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:17, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Blur and darken the shading more. :D 11:04, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing a bit, and blur and smudge the earpink. 20:50, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I darkened the whole thing and the shading and blurred the ear-pink. 21:30, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks nice! Redden the nosepink, and smudge the earpink more. 21:36, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! I'm sorry, personal business has kept me away from PCA. Make him a little more reddish, like mine.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  22:12, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing again and then more hightlights 23:36, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

The bottom of the tail could be a LITTLE bit darkened, otherwise it is AWESOME! *Ivyheart* 17:28, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I darkened it, blurred the ear-pink, reddened the nose and darkened the shading on the tail. 20:15, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Slightly pinken the earpink. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  13:11, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Fill the ear completely with earpink and then smudge the pelt colour into it. Darken/blur the shading and fill in the white pixels in the bottom of the eyes. You also need to erase the smudged lineart outside the bottom of the haunch. 00:26, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton all the way down the right side. Fill in all the white pixels on the ears, mainly on the left ear. Also, blur the shading and highlights together on the right side of the chest. Blur tail shading a tad at the edge all the way along. Same for the front legs. Give the face a small highlight and blur it when you put the light on.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:41, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all the shading, add tail shading, intensify the highlights. 06:57, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Like they said ^ blur/smudge the shading, and I would darken the bottem of the tail a bit more. Nice job! At el  da  22:51, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading above the forelegs. Other than that, he looks very handsome!

- ♫Millie♫ <font color="Purple">It’s getting cold outside... 22:57, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this "Pinestar.leader.alt.". 05:19, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I intensified and blurred the shading and highlights, and smudged the ear-pink. How do I rename it? 20:30, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Save this file under the correct file name, then place the "delete" tag on the duplicate image and an admin will remove it for you. 01:37, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks :) 15:37, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail highlighting. Nice job! 20:31, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Either darken all the shading so it matches the intensity of the shading on the back/tail, or lighten those bits. Blur all the shading/highlights as well. 23:28, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Less hightlights on the chest area and redden the ear pink. Then darken the shading a little bit. 00:13, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest and back shading, too. 23:38, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 08:43, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the shading on the chest a little more. This looks amazing! At el  da  23:06, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the back shading more. =) 22:01, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

The right ear pink looks too big. There's a lot of stray lineart, and some of the shading looks blotchy. 02:29, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the belly, legs and haunch. 19:00, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink just a tad and lighten the nose color. Light the shading a lot 03:30, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

There's this area near the place where the haunch starts that just looks kind of... weird. Can you fix it? 19:40, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading to the backs of the front legs. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:32, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

More highlights. This is really good! 16:44, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

This is the tawny alternate, correct? If this is, shouldn't it be more like the image I have above? (See Oakheart's Alt Warrior) ...This seems...too orange. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 18:23, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Pinestar.leader.alt. 19:08, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

This is sort of orangeish. Other than that more highlights and lighten the shading on the right side more 17:41, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can you darken the nose pink a bit? 17:31, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Specklestream? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I completely changed the colour (but it isn't showing yet). 12:43, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

This is too ginger. Make it more brown. <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  14:33, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading along its back and on its tail. It looks good ;) 00:05, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. 13:18, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Pine(K) - For Approval


Comments? 20:31, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section XD Blur the shading. 20:46, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading a little as well. 22:33, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink 22:39, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the eye color too. At el  da  01:44, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is a bit lumpy and uneven in some places. Blur it out. Darken the shading a lot, too. And I'm having a hard time seeing the ear pink. 08:04, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Very good, but I agree, the ear could be darker- more visible to see. Blur the highlights on the front right leg a bit. *Ivyheart* 17:05, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make him more pale, please. 01:59, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the eye color. Are you still working on this? 17:25, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Its been four days, wait awhile. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 08:33, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink and blur the shading. Leopard claw Eyes watching in the Dark…  13:09, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the back seems a bit blotchy on the back and legs, blur them please =) 01:10, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Don't decline this. Dapplecloud's internet is down, so it might be a few more days until she can work on this. 00:32, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

You should blur the shading a little more on his back. It stands out too much. 22:00, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:30, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading doesn't look consistent. Look at this on how to shade kits: This should help you immesnley, it really helped me :) 15:21, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Ivystripe. 05:49, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the eye color and lighten the highlights a little bit. 14:27, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

No prob. Define the shading on the legs. 71.72.157.130 21:51, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more, there are still a few spots where the shading falters. Also you might want to redden the earpink. Nice job! At el  da  01:39, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

What color is the eyes supposed to be? And the hightlights and the shading looks sort of blotchy. 00:16, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is fairly blotchy, blur it, and you can't really see the ear pink too well, so make it pink. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 05:39, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 08:34, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

blur the shading on the back more 04:38, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Remember that because of the uploading problems, the image will be the one that is under the most recently uploaded one. Make the earpink a bit redder, but great work! 22:15, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ok, thanks. 04:27, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste around his left foor, we see it as the right. So erase that. 01:21, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I meant FOOT. 01:25, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Except of course, the waste around the foot. 02:32, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight a ton. Same with the streak of light down his ---> front leg. Blur the shading on his --> side. Also, blur highlight a tad on his < front leg. And, obviously, erase the waste beside his visible back paw. Blur highlight on it, too.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 10:03, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is really blotchy. And you need to lighten the nose color. 03:31, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:09, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:40, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome work! Redden the earpink a bit, 16:36, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Possibly blur the chest highlight. -- Moon  leaf  01:17, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Rename this Pine.kit.png. 19:09, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the shading a little more. It looks really good! 15:04, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

More highlights on the chest and face 15:10, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading, but blur it as well.

I think that was me ^^ I thought my siggie showed up when I posted it, But maybe I just forgot to sign ;D  15:48, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Harley (Alt. R) - For Approval
At el  da  21:51, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

He was actually described as gray-black so that would be just dark gray. Night shine  22:15, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

This would be declined then, wouldn't it? 05:26, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ I don't think so, because he's originally brown and grey. I just messed up on the coloring XD. At el  da  16:29, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think Nightshine meant that it just had to be a solid dark gray. No patches or anything. 18:26, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, mkay. :3 18:43, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, so I'm somewhat confused. Is he grey and black or just solid grey? At el  da  22:48, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Solid dark gray. 23:09, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ At  el  da  00:20, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The shading could be more consistent; there's highlighting on the bottom/chest area as well as the back, so where's the light source? xD 00:24, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

blur the shading on the back a bit *Canyonsong* *Warrior Of Fireclan*  02:29, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Figure out your light source and change the shading; right now it doesn't really make sense. There's no visible light source. Blur all the shading as mentioned above, and make your earpink a bit smaller. 207.81.88.82 03:15, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me ^^ I keep on getting signed out. 03:31, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ not sure if it's showing up or not... btw, I smudged and blurred it as much as I could on pixlr without messing it up. At el  da  04:05, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading doesn't make any sense, where's your light source? 18:27, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Ok sorry uploaded the wrong one. The light source is now right in front. At el  da  21:26, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Harley.rogue.alt.png 17:36, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and maybe see Nightshine's tutorial? It shows how to do the shading/highlights and light source... 21:45, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ At  el  da

Blur the highlights. Great job! 22:12, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ I'm being really indecisive with the shading, experimenting. At el  da  16:47, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights/shading and lighten the whole image a tad. It looks black now, he's supposed to be gray-black. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 19:10, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ Ok I lightened the image, and blurred it as much as pixlr would let me. <span style="color:Lime;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background:black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:green;">❀ Atelda ❀ talk 22:01, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights look kind of unnatural. Make them more oval-shaped, maybe? xP 20:23, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest having a light source from behind, It doesn't look natural to have little spots of highlights. 20:59, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Sorry, internet has been down, but so I did this one on GIMP but I also did one with the light source behind. So...does this shading look good or should I put up the one with the light souce behind? <span style="color:Lime;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background:black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:green;">❀ Atelda ❀ talk 20:00, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more reddish, the current color is hard to see. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:45, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good, but the highlights are too light, the earpink should be reddened, and the shading should be blurred. The eyes should also be darkened. Nice work, though! 16:24, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think the highlights are the right shade, but blur them a ton, along with the shading, darken the eyes, smudge earpink, maybe add a tiny bit of highlight on his <- ear, and there's a white pixel on his nose. Wait, is that white pixel supposed to be there? I dunno. Good job.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:54, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the bottom part of the tail. 20:51, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is faded, it needs to be block pink and then blurred. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 12:39, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Harley.rogue.alt.png. 19:10, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Ok. 23:38, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink more. 17:34, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:15, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The eye looks kind of odd to me. It's kinda... i don't know... boxy? :P Or it could be just me :P 13:10, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Dovewing (W) ~ For approval


This was withdrawn before. Comments? 21:54, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

blur the shading on the neck a bit more the earpink needs a little shading too *Canyonsong* *Warrior Of Fireclan*  22:02, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink and smudge/blur it more. the shading on the hind leg looks a bit odd, and just so it looks more natural I would put it just a bit higher, and darken the right side of his back also. At el  da  22:31, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

MAke the earpink smaller, and blur it rename it Dovewing.warrior, and if anyone says anything about the eye color leave it, the erins will (hopefully) tell us what color they are, Feathertail Millie asked them. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 22:37, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job, Squirrelflame! xD Blur the shading and make the earpink smaller. 22:38, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights to the front part of her forelegs, smudge the shading around the side of the head a tad to make it look a bit rounder, and brighten the ear pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:41, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, make the earpink smaller, and when you do make sure you set the blur tool on 100%. Hope that helps. 00:04, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. It might not be showing up yet. 00:06, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

You still need to blur or smudge the ear pink. It's not natural. Lighten the shading on the paws because they are too dark. 02:23, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

SAndstorm, the changes aren't showing yet, looks good, glur the highlights. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 02:50, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller and the highlight on the haunch bigger. Also blur all the highlights/shading, as Maplepool mentioned above. 207.81.88.82 03:09, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Me again... Sorry. 03:33, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the earpink, smudge or blur the shading, and, one question. Aren't Dovewing's eyes golden? But, this is really nice. Spottedfire16, 13:51, May 26, 2011

I like this. Blur the shading. Either darken the shading or brighten the highlights. But overall, this is a really good piece of art. -- 20:19, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

We don't know what her eye color is, blue or golden. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:46, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Leave her eyes blue. She was only described with golden eyes at the very beginning, but it was changed to blue and in all the allegiances it is how she is described. Blur the shading a lot and blur the ear pink and move it up in her ear. 23:43, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this 'Dovewing.warrior' 15:13, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading and make the earpink a little smaller and more even. Also, blur out the shading on the legs =) 02:01, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

So yes, it is confirmed that her eyes are blue? The earpink could be blurred at the bottom. Otherwise, looks fabulous! 00:04, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, if you don't mind. Other then that, this is amazing! Job well done, SquirrelFlame! I love it! <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Sk ye  Me ow 13:01, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

This is good, but like the others were saying, smudge/blur the earpink, and give them shading. Also, I'd maybe lighten the fronts of the front legs a bit. It looks kinda odd that the front paws are highlighted but the legs aren't. Other than that, it's gorgeous! Nightmist 19:17, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded.It's not showing yet though. There's some image trouble on the wiki. 01:56, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and I'm having the trouble too. xD Nice work, though! 23:40, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Should I just re-upload it as a new image? This wiki problem is taking a long time to fix... 03:57, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Blur the shading on the muzzle a tad. 02:55, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. The actual image is under the 2:50 June 7, 2011 caption. 02:58, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I forgot to add this in earlier. The hind leg's shading/highlights could be blurred. It is faintly blotchy. 03:10, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. The new image is now under 02:56, June 7, 2011. 00:11, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded.The new image is now under 00:08, June 8, 2011. 00:16, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Move the shoulder highlight up, and blur the shading and highlights. 21:35, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. The new image is now under 00:15, June 8, 2011. 22:45, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! There are a few places where the lineart is blurred, so you might want to put a new lineart over it. Blur/smudge the shading near the start of the hindleg lineart. <span style="color:Lime;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background:black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:green;">❀ Atelda ❀ talk 16:50, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I think the changes are finally showing! Yay! On the other hand, no need to get all happy if I just saw it wrong. 00:05, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hello? Comments? Sorry for being impatient. It's been 3 days since I last uploaded. 02:19, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Well.... The ear pnk is a little bit too small. And lighten the shading on the back. It looks to dark 15:10, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Really? I thought the back looked fine so I didn't do anything. But I did make the ear pink bigger. 17:05, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights, they look a bit blotchy. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  22:52, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Is it ok now? 18:22, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think their's blurred line-art on the haunch. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 19:25, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

I see the blurred lineart but I can't fix it without making the picture not transparent. Help? 21:04, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

I can, but where on the haunch? It looks fine to me. Redline please? <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  05:19, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Right here. It's kind of hard to see, so I circled it. 15:48, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  18:01, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I fixed the lineart. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  18:19, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Great! Thanks a lot. Anything else? 19:04, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Nvm...Sorry, but I'm going to withdraw this. I've been working on this for a while, and I don't want to continue. I'm going to try an alt. instead. 21:47, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Can I take over? 21:53, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Go right ahead. Make the shading less blotchy. 22:20, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear-pink. Move the chest highlight further onto the lineart, stretch the face highlight higher onto the forehead, and blur the highlight on the flank. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 22:33, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

She needs some shading on the bottom of her haunch as well because it's inconsistent with the light source. 21:34, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

I re-did the whole thing. I got all the colors from her other charart, so..Comments? :D 00:48, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say make her eye color a tad bit darker blue. Blur the bottom of the ear pink more. Define her shading a ''tad. ''Nice job! 01:40, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

This seems too light. Darken the shading please. =D <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 12:27, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe redden the ear pink? Otherwise, good job! <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 12:31, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

REname this Dovewing.warrior.png. 19:11, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, please. 19:12, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the base of the tail (on the edge, near the lineart...How else do I say this?) 20:41, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Maybe saturate the eyes just a bit more. But Squirrelflame, are you finishing this before you leave PCA for good, or are you withdrawing? If you are going to withdraw, I'd be willing to take over. If not that's fine too. ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:54, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

No, she just withdrew it, so I'm working on this now. :P And its not too light, if you compare it to her other chararts, and the earpink comes from the other chararts too. 16:05, June 20, 2011 (UTC

Re-Uploaded. I've blurred everything as much as possible, darkened shading, and changed the name. 16:42, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the highlights on the hindleg just a little bit. 02:12, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading/highlights where I circled. =) 15:58, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the redline thing! It really helped. I've blurred it as much as I can, but if anyone thinks it needs more, then they can do it themselves. :P '''Re-Uploaded. ''' 18:51, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the legs a tad. =D 15:46, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Umm...the back legs? 15:49, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I darkened them, but the changes might not be showing yet. 16:19, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Darkened and blurred more... 17:40, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, Sorry I meant all of the legs XD Sorry for not being precise :3 23:35, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Change the eye-colour to golden. 20:27, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's perfect.

Lark(Kit)-For approval


Really, I HATE this, i hate this with a  BURNING  passion, i need to darken the stripes, i need to darken the ear-pink, this fails so much UGHH!!! i really hate it SOOO MUCH >.< Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 04:20, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

....uh, do I even have to comment, since you already said what you need to do? XD Darken the stripes and make them longer, darken the shading, darken the earpink, and define it. 04:25, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, done and done, reuploaded, comments(Can i say my haterd of this anymore??)? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 04:31, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm uploading promblems still? Pssh. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 04:31, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Uhh...yeah, What Wildheart said. Plus, darken the shading just a little around the legs. -- 04:36, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

I did, the changes aren't showing, and I will get right on it. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 04:45, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the whole thing a bit. Since she was listed as a PALE tabby, I think she should be pretty light. *nods* Other than that it's good! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:17, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Omg i want to redo the image, however, Pilxr is being a butt-head atm, so that wont freaking work. Lark, please go and make yourself a tortie or plan kit, really, tabbies are sooo  NOT  my strong point! >.< Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 11:20, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

YES AT LAST IT LOOKS GOOD!!!!!!!!!!! ok Comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 12:03, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

REally no comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 13:43, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok the earpink was bgging me so i fixed that, again comments( Changes not showing )? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 12:53, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

PLEASE ONE COMMENT, im bored. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:17, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading under her neck and along her legs, add stripes to her head, and define her earpink. 14:19, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!!!!!! A COMMENT OMG I LOVE YOU (not really, but really I'm ADHD i get bored, very fast!) Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:21, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Really?The frist image? I fied it, i want my better image, no the fking piece of CRAP that i am forced toclaim as the frist attempt of the cat' art. >.< Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:32, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, whe i fix it again I wil see if it wants to work with me, really, i hate the frist image, and i don't wat to see its horridness. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:35, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Where's the image? And from what I remember darken the ear pink a little. 15:43, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

It was a past, butt-ugly image, and i didnt want it up, so I didn't post it, anyway, Reuploaded, comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 23:20, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, dont comment just to ask people to comment. It take up to much space. Make the nose pink more red. 23:28, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Also, it's better if you refrain from swearing and try to use proper grammar. There are younger users on the wiki, and it makes it easier to tell what you're saying if you don't talk in chatspeak. 23:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

dips head* very sorry. OMG REALLY the older image?....ok, i'll redden it. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 23:46, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Ok i fixed the nose coloring, and still not working with me. >.< Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 23:47, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, what did we just ask you? We're all having uploading problems, be patient. Make the stripes darker aswell. 23:54, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Please keep in mind, this is NOT the image, that is up, this is the first one, so, do i need to darken them? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:02, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

No. The stripes are fine as they are. Blur them a bunch, as well as blur the shading. It's too sharp. 00:12, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:23, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, so i had Lark that ings at Dawn, and i forgot to blur the shading so i fixed that, comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 01:03, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Lark.kit.png 17:27, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

She was described as looking like her dad, whom is grey, and I think we came to a concensus that unspecified tabbies should be grey. So make her light grey. 19:03, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Ivystripe, it was deiced that unspeified tabbies would be brown, so she stays brown. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:03, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Renamed. Comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 20:06, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Where does it say that? I checked the voting, and only the very last comment did it say they were going to be brown. And the one below you appears to be grey. Just link me on my userpage so it doesn't clutter the talk page. 23:45, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

On the guidelines, go to the top, click 'Back to page' and then go down to where you see 'Giudelines' and it says "Tabby" it says unspeified tabbies should be made brown. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:56, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thin out the stripes on his face and add the tabby "M" over her eyes. Blur the shading a lot. 01:17, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I've blured it as much as i can without blurring the lineart on Pirlxr, and, go to the image histroy and comment on that one, right now, best you can do (What is wrong with the updating, not complaing, just asking.) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:54, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/Add shading to the tail. Yes, I understand your Pixlr pains. My solution is to zoom in a couple times and make the brush sort of small (Ex. Paint Brush 5) And blur it then so you won't have to worry about the lineart. Hope I helped =D 01:58, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Splashpelt^^, I wil get right on it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:06, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Ok darkend the tail shading, can someone with gimp blur the shading please, Splashpelt, thanks it helped, but It doesn't blur right (Pixlxr is be mean to me DX ) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:24, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I see now. Sorry 'bout that. Define the shading on the legs. 02:41, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

REupoladed, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:52, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Good job! Define the earpink. 21:48, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Misty(May I call you that?) REuploaded. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:08, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Blur that swipe of shading a ton. Blur tail shading. She's beautiful :)- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:31, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I've blurred it to the max( of Pilxir starnders) I will blurr the tail, *dips head* Thank you. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:44, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, can someone with Gimp blur the shading on her side for me? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:46, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Please, one commetn, my ADHD really annoys me. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 05:09, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Please stop posting just to ask for comments. Hmmm..... it looks really nice, but maybe make the earpink a bit more visible? It blends into the pelt too much right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:41, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry.....I get antsy......Anyway, REuploaded, comments, Again, can some one blur the shading for me? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 00:48, June 3, 2011 (UTC)



Ok, My brother did this, I told him he was screwing with it, and he uhm.. Under no UNCERTAIN terms, told me that he didn't need my help and used his own thoughts of art to create this... So.. Just leave a comment with a simple "I like this, nice work your Brother did" or "You were right and he messed it up" My brother said if he senses Bias in the choises he is gonna deck me.. D;;;; Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:01, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's uh..... nice.... XD Anyways, I can TRY to blur the shading since I have gimp, but I can't garauntee I'll be able to. I've never helped someone blur shading so I'm not sure how it will turn out, especially since Lark has stripes. XP ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:05, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

IDK what he says I'm NOT working off that image, I like the image i have up, not someelse's image, the ear-pink blends in, the front paws/legs are to light, there are ORANGE flecks in the fur, no, I will NEVER work off the image, Paleclaw, if you blur it, use my image please. (go to history and use the 2nd image) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:11, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't see what you posted before I reuploaded and I worked off the top image. I'll go blur the other one and reupload it again, sorry. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:15, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Sorry if I messed with the stripes at all, but there you go. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:23, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yay, thanks, Paleclaw, ok Comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:30, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so The tail shading botherd me, so i fixed that, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:03, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

darken the earpink a tad 15:43, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, Changes are not showing yet. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:42, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, define the shading. 23:46, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded, changes not showing, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:30, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot to blur the strpes, sorry, fixed that, reuploaded. Comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:03, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, and blur the stripe on the face -- maybe make it smaller? 21:54, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

REuploade, changes still not showing. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 03:11, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Um when you comment, please go to the pic's history and comment on the second image please, that the one that should be up here. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 22:38, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

My internet is down, so please don't decline this. 71.164.203.114 16:56, June 9, 2011 (UTC) Maplepool not signed in.

Ok so my internet is up, but I'm grounded from the computer for a week, so sometime next week, i can get on. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:27, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

YAY changes are showing now, I'm not grounded anymore... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 00:32, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the left side. Then either lighten the base color or darken the tabby stripes 15:18, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, changes not showing. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:17, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot to blur the stripes.....so fixed that coments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 22:34, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlights. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  05:14, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 12:17, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. 16:09, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:34, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the forehead shading, and the neck & chest shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  05:12, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I tried, Paleclaw blured the shading for me on Gimp, so....i don't think i can blur it. but um....REuploaded. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 12:58, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Redo the tail stripes. They're a bit too blurry. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  19:19, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

My horrid attempt to fix the stripes. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 22:41, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading a bit more. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  08:03, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:56, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on the chest. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  06:12, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 09:22, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:04, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the haunch and paws. Looks good! 02:09, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks splashpelt, i'm baned from the computer for at lest a week, so plaese don't delince this. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 13:47, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Ok so I got on, and fixed the shading, comments? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:15, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the stripes a bit more? 17:44, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the shaded side. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 18:57, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'm on Vacation up in Kansas visting my G-ma, so I will upload again in a few days, sorry. I will fix the stuff when I'm back at home. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:11, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sparrowkit - For approval
I did this like a million and three years ago xD. I rather like it. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 12:32, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great! Darken the earpink though. It looks to pinky. XD 12:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

three things.

1. Sparrowkit is a tom

2. He is gray, he needs to be brown, thanks to the votes(Lark should really be silver DX )

3. Darken/redden the earpink. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 12:56, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It is a tom blank, he just has the tabby 'eye-liner'. All tabbies have it. I darkened the earpink and made him browner (though it was more in between before) and changed the ear pink, but it hasn't shown up yet.-- Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 13:36, May 29, 2011 (UTC)



Ok where there is red, there is unmatching colors under the nose(its pink dude.) and green, means it looks to gray. and he has no white pixl in his eyes. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 13:59, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

There is a white pixel...? His belly is white on purpose, as with the the eyes, most tabbies have a lighter belly. I fixed the nose, but it hasn't shown up. Nor have the changes I made earlier. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 14:13, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

This is really good just blur the earpink. Wild fire  14:31, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink seems a tad bright, darken it just a teensy bit. Nice job on this! 00:16, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the back a bit. This is really lovely. The earpink is fine; if you look on the file's page, you can see the second image in the history table is the current image. 01:21, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Great work! Can you add shading on the tail? 23:47, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the chest area and make the ear pink less purple. 20:49, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the nose color and darken the ear pink and the eye color 23:23, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should get rid of the lines around its eyes and the lighter belly and face. I understand that it's supposed to be realistic, but Warriors has never cared about realism. The lighter parts make it look like that's part of his appearance, which it isn't, and the tabby lines make him look like a girl. :P 21:07, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I played around with it. Personally I think it looked better before though xD. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:09, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

It still looks nice, and you can tell he's a boy now. xD Maybe blur the chest marking an eensy bit, then I'd say it's ready. 19:41, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the face. 20:38, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

More highlights on the face and tail 21:11, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

He looks to gray, make him more brown, or gray-brown as you had him before. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:29, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  05:21, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

More highlights 22:45, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a bit more. 12:36, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Okay there isn't enough shading and there isn't enough highlights. Put more of them. Hey when are you going to work on this again? 17:17, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 17:49, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Darkhallows? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 15:02, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Long story short GIMP stopped working and .xcf files don't work in photoshop so I had to redo it. It looks horrible D:. It's so... flat and boring and I haven't quite adjusted to photoshop yet. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 13:13, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

I circled in red theres a little line coming out of the lineart. Also, the earpink is a little too hot pinky. Also make the eye color more noticable. Wild   breath   14:38, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and blur the stripes more. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 16:12, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

To me, the earpink is too small, but that could just be me. Bluestar11796 01:47, June 26, 2011 (UTC) 7:45 pm June 25,2011

Ivypool kit Alt.~ for approval


How does it look? It said, in the alligensices of The fourth apprentice, that she was a white tabby. I know it sounds like Graystripe being described without his stripe, but the difference with this because it suggests that her white fur was tabby, and there was no gray spots at all. I thought it was all right for the alt. if it meant that her fur was tabby, not just the gray spots. 22:05, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes, put the earpink higher in the ear, and add shading on the stripes. Also, add a pupil to the eye, and lighten the nose color. <span style="color:Lime;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background:black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:green;">❀ Atelda ❀ talk 22:14, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded.Of course, the changes arn't showing yet. I'm not going to trouble moonflight by making a new image, since we are having so much trouble with vandals latley. 22:25, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well the eyes are wrong so look at the guidelines. Add a tabby mark on her head, add more highlights, add or darken the shading, redden the ear pink and lighten the nose pink. Maybe switch them around? The guidelines are here so just click on one and it will teach you how to do all that stuff I said. 23:12, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thin out the stripes and lighten them a tad, darken the ear-pink a tad, darken the shading, and rename the file Ivypool.alt.kit.png. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:21, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten her base coat, and maybe make the stripes gray. It'll look less. . . harsh. Give her pupils, darken the shading, and the stripes need major help. I can give you a redline if you need one. 19:37, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'm going to give you my honest opinion, please don't get mad. I think you need to redo the stripes. Reason being is that I can tell that you used the paintbrush tool to put on her stripes, and sorry, but that's not the best way to do it. It looks better if you use the pixily-Pencil tool, then take your blur tool, set it on 100%, then blur the stripes. I'm really not trying to be mean by telling you to change it, it will just save you time when it comes to them. Also, it might help to make the stripes a little smaller. I hope I helped ^^; 20:50, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Okay, the changes really wouldn't show, so I had to make antoher picture. Mossy, I would love a redline because kits aren't my strong suit for tabbies. I fixed the eyes and made the stripes lighter, but the eyes still look a little odd... if anyone can point out what's wrong with them please tell me:). Spottedstar42  Good Bye Wildheart We'll miss you!  21:29, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink. And remember when Mossy gives you the redline, blur it. A lot 21:49, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Why are the eyes amber? I thought they were blue. 20:19, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes, they're kind of smudgy, darken the earpink, and add/darken the shading. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 02:28, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Their is gray line-art on the left leg. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 13:39, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

On the eyes, the pixls are blurred and the color needs to be darkened I can fix it for you if you want. Wild fire  22:30, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded. Wildfire, if you can help with darkening the eyes i would highly apprecitate it:). The eyes are being difficult, and the changes are finally showing! Spottedstar42 The WWi ki van dals Mu st fall!!!  00:41, June 14, 2011 (UTC) (ps. now the stripes are messed up, can someone help me with that?)

I'll do the stripes, and if you need me to darken the eye colour, I can do that too. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  05:33, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

And it looks like there's a line in the middle of the face and above it it's lighter and below it is darker. Fix it? 14:29, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'll darken the eyes, if you want, Spottedstar42. I could do it right now if you want.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 23:53, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Wait there is no ref for it on her page, it says 'Soruce?' next to in on her trivia. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 01:00, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if the trivia isn't cited, then you may have to hold off on her charart until someone can cite it. Define her shading, right now it looks, basically, non-existant, sorry if there is some. 02:33, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur earpink. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  06:06, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

You need to blur the face colors, they are really uneven. It looks like someone chopped her face in half and put it back together. xD. Otherwise, she needs more shading beacuse I can't even see it. Paulmer 12:47, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the paws, back, haunch and tail (and optionally the neck). 16:22, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more. 17:52, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 22:01, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think the artist simply may be waiting for somebody to cite the trivia for this. I don't have a copy of the book, otherwise I would. 01:33, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading on the front legs. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 16:17, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sweetpaw Alt. Kit ~For Approval
She was mistakenly called a mottled tabby as a kit, I modeled (no pun intended) her after my mottled tabby. I think I need to blur her front leg more, but, comments? 02:27, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the back haunch and leg :) 02:50, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Nice work. Blur the cream marking, and the shading, add a highlight to the tail, and brighten the ear-pink a tad. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 02:51, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  03:06, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  06:00, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the part of the chest leading up to the neck. (Where the black line is) This looks good. I like it! <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 12:21, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Could you try and blend the dark spot on the head just a little bit more? It looks too solid-ish to me. Besides that, I really like this :) Fawngaze 23:03, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I killed the tabby "necklace" and might redo it. 01:10, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be declined, as no color was specified? Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I think we decided against giving cats chararts when no color was given. 06:32, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Nope. In the end, it was decided that unspecific tabbies would be be a brown tabby. 10:18, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Great! Blur the shading. 16:50, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Redden the earpink. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 21:47, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

I really like it! Just like Snowdazzle said redden the earpink and I think it should be okay. 01:21, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Get rid of the white markings. Desaturate it a bit. This looks really good. 02:00, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading near the legs a tad. This looks beautiful =D 15:49, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks! And desaturate what? 21:51, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Their's still a tiny little white marking on the tail. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 22:51, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and define the stripes a bit more; they kinda get lost in the shading. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 21:55, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

That's exactly what I was thinking! And I lightened the shading a tad. Reuploaded 23:11, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Err...comments? I want to get this done before Crookedstar's Promise comes out :P 15:22, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

I can see just a little white befor the tip of her tail. 15:31, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little and make the neck shading a tiny bit thicker. :3 16:33, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I didn't get the comments before (my computer is slow), but I did get rid of the white on her tail, I smudged her markings a little (especially the accidental half moon I put on her) added a highlight to her chest and tail, made her nose a little darker, and changed her eyes a little. I'll work on the shading in a bit, but anything else? 17:12, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

This looks really good! To me, the ear pink is a tad bit too small. Make it bigger and it'll look great! :-) 11:58, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Brook (Prey Hunter) - For Approval
I don't really see a problem with posting it now, I know the blanks haven't been approved but I CBA'd them and they look great, besides, if they are edited anymore I can easily fix this one to conform to that, I would just cut out the current lineart and paste the new one over top. But if anyone has an issue with me posting this, let your voice be heard. 03:45, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, darken the shading on the left hind leg and make the ear pink more pink. Also, shouldn't you upload the pic in a seprate file instead of ontop of the old one? Ah, whatever, It looks good to me xP --

OMG! It looks so pwetty! Anyways, make the mudstreaks more noticeable and blur it. Oh, and does this mean we can make the new prey-hunter images now? 10:58, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Uh Mossy....I reserved this at like May 19th or something and someone removed me when I WAS active. Soo uhh...yeah.~Loudsplash100000(the victim)

Darken the ear pink. But how did you do the eye? That should be on a tutorial so others know. And why did you post this on Brook's page? 15:15, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the hind leg farthest from us. This looks amazing! Loudsplash - You were removed for not being active, most likely, and your reservation for Brook did too, and because we re-did the blanks. Sandstorm - It was probably another user, it wasn't Mossy because I checked the history. 15:47, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

She looks great! But the non-striped fur is a lot lighter of a brown on her other chararts, so lighten it some. -- 16:44, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

* cry* I hate my life...~Loudsplash100000

Loudsplash, you have to post the charart within two weeks of the reservation. That's the rule. :/ It's been over a month since you reserved it any you never posted it. -- 17:21, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't even know Loudsplash had it reserved. I checked before I reserved it myself. And ooops, I forgot that it would be on Brook's page if I reuploaded over. XP Derp. I'll fix that. And about the eye, I just played around with it until I thought it looked okay. I'm not planning on making a tutorial, so if anyone has one and thinks my eye looks good, then use that way in your tutorial? I'll reupload soon. 21:35, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Why is it Brook's CURRENT image? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 23:10, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Her kit mother image isn't approved yet. -- 23:43, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back leg furthest from us. Since it's further away from us and under her body somewhat, it should be shaded. You should also darken the ear pink; as previously stated. Maybe you could darken the shading under the head as well. This is really pretty, Mossy! Fawngaze 02:57, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! Since her kit-mother image is almost ready, I say make her mud the same color, therefore we can distinguish between her markings and mud. 21:08, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Try making her mud streaks more noticeable. They're a bit hard to distinguish from the pelt. And maybe try darkening the ear pink a bit. But great job! Shadewing  So unlucky we are... 00:13, June 23, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

This looks amazing!! Darken the ear pink, darken the shading on the front and back left paws, and make, I agree with the others, make the mud streaks more noticeable. Other than that awesome job!! 21:13, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Screech (PH) - For Approval
I've done a Clan cat, a non-Clan cat, and now doing a Tribe cat, yay! Comments? 17:06, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink is to light for the black pelt. Darken it or redden it. 17:21, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights and add mud streaks. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 19:19, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 20:50, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I forgot to put on mud streaks, thank you for reminding me :D 21:10, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

The mudstreaks look...superficial. It doesn't look very real, not trying to be mean. Just make them a little thicker, then smudge them into the pelt color, and if you're using a program like GIMP, it'd be good to put them on another layer just in case you mess them up. 21:15, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading by the belly and under his forelegs. Redden the ear-pink and darken it a tad. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 21:57, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred the mud streaks in Photoshop then smudged them in Pixlr. Looks any better? 23:00, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the mud. 23:57, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:07, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Erm... comments? 01:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Meh, the mud looks kinda to....I dont know to to describe it, but can you re-shape em to make them look more than just lines? --

Reuploaded I hate making mud look realistic >_> 16:23, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the mud a lot. It's hard to see. 16:31, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 16:59, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the mud still some more and make some of it go in different directions, not just the way the fur goes. 18:26, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:35, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the mud streaks; they're kinda hard to see. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 14:49, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

The mud looks..a bit smudgy. Define it more. Shadewing ''' So unlucky we are... 14:53, June 26, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Stormfur (PH) ~For Approval
Here he is! A while ago, I put this same thing up, except with the old prey hunter blank, and it was declined because the new prey hunter blanks were being worked on. So, comments?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 08:49, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The mudstreask looks a bit....strange. Blur it more, and also blur the shading. 10:19, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Good job with the eye! And the mud is as red as the ear pink. Make dark brownish. More highlights on the tail 14:15, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Make the ear pink fill the whole part of where the ear indicates. Make the mudstreaks a little less uniform and make them go kinda crazy on him, so it looks more natural. 14:21, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the belly and bottom of the tail. Also, Darken and smudge the mud-streaks to make them look a little more natural, Like Ivystripe stated before. 16:16, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The mudstreaks are red! Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 17:08, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Stormfur.ph.png. 20:11, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and darken the shading. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 22:40, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

The mud streaks could use some work. You should make them a more brown-ish color, as opposed to orange-red. And you should tryand blend them into the fur-color more too. Shade under his head and the ear farthest from us. Fawngaze 22:00, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Changed mud colour, blurred shading, darkened shading, added more highlights onto the tail, added shading in the places Fawngaze requested.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 01:15, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

The mud still seems a bit red, try to make it a bit more of a pasty brown and darken the shading a tad more. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:21, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the brown. — PercyJackson101  &#124; Talk 14:55, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the mud that ran over the lineart on the back :] 19:57, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Try making the mud streaks browner. And the earpink is a little too pink. But good job. Shadewing  So unlucky we are... 00:18, June 26, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

'''Reuploaded. '''Yes, I made a completely new one. Oh yes, and Sandstormrocks32, for the eye, while I was making the first one, I stole a copy of Brook's new prey hunter image, and uploaded it into the art program I use(Adobe Photoshop) as well as my Stormfur one, and zoomed into the eye on both Chararts, and copied the eye style from Brook. I remembered how to do the eye for the second image.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:25, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mud color just a bit, change the eye color, it looks red. Add shading on the head and legs. Nice job! 22:26, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Splash (PH) ~ For Approval
Still awful at mud. Oh well. I realise the earpink is awful, please don't comment as I am going to fix it. So, Comments? Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 17:08, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the mud a bit, brighten the ear-pink, and darken the shading on the head. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 17:11, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Also darken the eyes. 20:08, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Splash.ph.png 20:09, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the mudstreaks more. It looks great! =D 10:15, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Mud fixed (I think XD) Leo  pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 15:54, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink fill up the whole ear. Great job! ^^ <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 17:42, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and more highlights on the stomach 18:51, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ears fixed (Hopefully) Leo  pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 19:00, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Better, add a spot of shading in the ear and add a white pixel in the eye, they look a bit too concentrated. Darken the shading under the chin and on the chest. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 19:22, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Mmm.. Darken the ear pink aaaaand...smudge the mud 8] --

Reuploaded Eyes and shading fixed (Not even mentioning the ears...) Leo  pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 19:54, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Eh, ear pink STILL looks too bright (See the chart up thar ^^) And add some shading on the left hind leg xP--

To me, the eye looks weird, I can hardly tell the one pixil that's supposed to be the eye-highlight. I'm more for using a slightly darker green color so it's not so...neonish...and shade it a little bit, for that touch of realism :) Also, I think this needs a mud streak on the face, doesn't have to be big. 21:12, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Grrr, ears... Leo  pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 08:15, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

To me, the highlights are just a tad bit too bright. Looks great, by the way! 22:49, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wing (PH) - For Approval
Ugh. I hate this, and I forgot the mud. Comments? 19:40, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Eh, the gray parts kinda looks like shading xD Can you fix that? Also, make sure to make the ear pink fill the entire (whatsitcalled?) ear hole..? O_o --

Blur the gray and the shading, darken the shading on the face, and add mud streaks. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 19:56, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I'm not going to fill the entire ear because it doesn't look good... 16:43, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

But the blanks are designed to have it fill the whole ear. MAke the mud less yellow. 17:31, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Remove some mud, there is too much, and possibly smudge it a little. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 19:07, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

I do think you should fill the whole ear, I saw it on other prey hunters and I think it looks fine. Maybe make the mud a darker color? Or you could just copy it from another Tribe cat, maybe if there's any other lighter colored cats? Someone pointed out before you reuploaded this that the gray looks like shading well...it still kinda does. Make the shading and grey pelt-color a seperate color. 21:02, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should remove some mud, because it looks like it's part of the pelt. Like the mud is actually brown streaks of fur :P And also, the gray does look a bit like shading and other than that, I think it looks really good :-) 22:39, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the mud, make it more brown instead of yellow, and lighten the belly a tad. I'd fill the whole ear, but I can't force you to do it. The creator of the new prey hunter blanks can, though.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:30, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Get rid of the circled mud:

And define the mud a bit.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:36, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the mud shading, I'm not sure about the ear, but you might want to think about filling in the whole ear with the earpink. This looks great so far! 22:32, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Storm (PH)~For Approval
Okay... Major fail on the mud streaks. I hope to get this approved before I leave for camp, if I do, I would've set a record... Anyway, Comments? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:50, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Meh, Darken the ear pink and...have some mud streaks on the tail, Okay? 8D --

Re-uploaded. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:07, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me, Scarletwind, but I already have this up.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 08:38, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, you have Stormfur up. Scarletwind has Storm Clouds at Dusk up. Wild   breath   14:26, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the mud streaks longer and maybe one on the head? 18:54, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Instead of making the mud streaks longer, I just added some more. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 19:20, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

The mudstreaks are a little too dark, lighten them a little. 00:33, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oh....silly me. *slaps forehead* sorry Scarletwind.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 00:36, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. @Kittycat79, I actually was intending to make this Stormfur, but you got him first, but Storm looks basically the same so everything worked out perfectly! ;) <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:46, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

This looks really good! Maybe just darken the shading on the left front and back paws and the left ear to make it look more like it was behind something that cast a shadow over it.... if you know what I mean! It's kinda hard for me to explain! :P 22:36, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:50, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the ear where you can't see the earpink just a bit. Also, straighten out the mud streaks. I don't know it looks a bit odd with the mud streaks going all sort of ways. This looks wonderful! 22:37, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Gray (PH)~ For Approval
Comments? 19:12, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart never fails to impress. ;) Darken the ear-pink a tad and darken the shading. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 19:14, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Gorgeous! Darken the mud-streaks. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 19:26, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

This is beautiful, but on the shoulder, the stripes look a little prickly, blend it out a little. 01:49, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

It's really nice! But I think you should blur the stipes on the tail so that it can blend with the lighter color. 03:27, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

RE-uploaded- Thanks guys. 05:58, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink a bit, along with the mud. This is pretty. So this is Gray Sky Before Dawn?(kick-butt name btw)- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 04:18, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Yup. Thanks i came up with it all by myself ;P. 05:08, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Could you darken the mud and maybe streak/smudge it a little more? I don't know...it looks like it's more on the 'orange' side than the brown, muddy color. You should also shade just under the head. This is awesome~ 22:28, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Flight (PH) - For Approval
Bleh.... this is my first one in.... a while :P Comments? 13:18, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the mudstreaks more noticable, and add more of them. Blur the stripes, and fix the eye a bit. Looks great! =D 13:24, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink fill up the whole ear. Awesome job. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 13:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, guys :) :) :) 13:37, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink now. xD And your welcome! 13:43, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded lol it wont blur anymore than that :P 14:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading, add shading to the chin, don't make the stripes and mud overlap, define where the muscles buldge out on the shoulder and haunch. 15:15, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and brighten the mud so its easier to see. 18:23, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this good? I had some trouble with the mud because if I brightened it, it was hard to see still :P So how's this? 20:45, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and define the mud streaks. Darken the shading and brighten the highlights. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:58, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded grrrrr.... :P 21:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading on Flight's back and blur the shading. 08:33, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) How's this? 11:52, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Although I think there's something wrong with the mudstreaks....Besides that, looks great! 13:07, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I agree with Rainey. Can you make the mud streaks longer and thinner? Otherwise, good job! <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 16:21, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lol how's this? I darkened the mud alot and smudged it. 13:58, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken her chest and under her head. Blur the mud streaks and maybe add some to her legs. Shade the tail. Besides that, it's looking rather good! 22:25, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :-) Thank you! How's this?

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Queen charart guidelines?
I was noticing that there had been a lot of debate over whether Squirrelflight, Leafpool, and Yellowfang would take queen chararts. I was thinking that for a character to earn a queen charart if it's not obvious, that they must: Just a suggestion that popped into my head today. Thoughts? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:46, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Have bore kits of their own.
 * It must be known by the clan that they were going to have kits. (I don't think only the cat's mate would count. Like it would have to be common knowledge within the clan, unless they were loners/rogues/etc.)
 * Have been seen in the nursery with their kits.

Great idea! This would definitely help decide. But if the wiki was created before Sunrise was released, wouldn't Squirrelflight have a queen charart? :P 23:51, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I never knew about that. But images can be removed, I know Adderkit's was removed be we couldn't cite his description. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:57, May 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with Scarletwind! But, I believe we should only do a queen image for Squirrelflight, since she had the rank. And, I know how only she-cats with the rank in the books can only have a queen charart.(example: Brindleface, Ferncloud, and Daisy.) As, she was a queen in The Sight. <font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 01:24, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yellowfang was a queen in Secrets of the Clans, In: Yellowfang speaks: and ungratful son. She should have a queen image.You break the warrior code, I break your spine! 02:36, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, none of the cats fit all of the requirements: Squirrelflight never had kits, Leafpool wasn't in the nursery taking care of the kits or was it known in the Clan that she was to have kits, Yellowfang, same as Leafpool. BUT, I still think they should have a queen image. Also, if we do decide to have a queen image for them, is there a way I can reserve it? I'm not sure if I should reserve it until we decide, but I sill want one. 02:45, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah, you can't reserve it ahead of time, it's not fair to the other project members. If they nursed or had kits, they should get an image. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  05:55, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Princess has a queen image, even though she wasn't in a clan. I think that any cat that has bore or nurtured kits of their own should have a queen image, otherwise none of the rogues/kittypets/loners would have queen images even though they were seen with kits of their own. 06:36, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah, you can't reserve it ahead of time, it's not fair to the other project members. If they nursed or had kits, they should get an image. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  05:55, June 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Princess has a queen image, even though she wasn't in a clan. I think that any cat that has bore or nurtured kits of their own should have a queen image, otherwise none of the rogues/kittypets/loners would have queen images even though they were seen with kits of their own. 06:36, June 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think all of you make a good point. Squirrelflight should definitely not have a queen image, even though she technically had the rank and did have a nest in the nursery, she never gave birth to kits or was even pregnant (which raises an issue because the queen blanks are pregnant) and she was usually in the warriors' den anyway. But, I do think it would make some sense for Yellowfang and Leafpool to have queen images, sort of. The fact of the matter is, in technical terms, a pregnant she-cat, or a she-cat nursing kittens, is indeed called a queen. In the books, the term "Queen" was used as a rank for she-cats who lived in the nursery, had given birth to kits, and was nursing them. So, it really is just an either/or situation with Yellowfang and Leafpool. Since in the actual Clan, queen is a rank, I don't really think either cat should have a queen image. Night  Fall 15:59, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Unspecified Tabby Alternates
I know it was decided that unspecified tabbies would get chararts, but do they get alternates? 23:07, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

That is a good question. The unspecified tabbies would qualify to the cat's description until they are mentioned (if), But when they are mentioned we would make them a new charart, right? But would the charart already made be...? We wouldn't just...clear it from the page...right? 23:31, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know...what if the cat was confirmed to be a solid colored cat, but was mistakenly described as an unspecified colored tabby? 23:34, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

well I don't know maybe we could go by the colors the cat already had then add the most realistic ones? 16:44, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well what if the color was never mentioned? I guess we could go by the name, like say "Graystorm" was mentioned as a "tabby tom." Then I guess we could infer Graystorm would be gray. But if say "Bramblepelt" was mentioned as a "tom." I guess we would make him a solid colored cat, for no markings were mentioned? 17:18, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I also have another question for unspecified cats. What if they are mentioned as a "long-furred she-cat." Would they get an unspecified alternate? 17:45, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yes they should get alts, its no different from the acctual description, and as for the just long haired thing, it semms like they should get a default, but im not sure. 04:24, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

I personally don't think that cats like the one in the example should get chararts unless they were described with a pattern (like tabby, mottle, spotted, etc.). We'd basically mean giving all characters who weren't really described with a pelt color or anything like it chararts, and we've always been against that as far as I know. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:36, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree to that too. We should only give chararts to ones that were mentioned as a pattern, I assume. "A long furred she-cat" may not be qualified to get an alternate for it was just her gender and fur length mentioned. 16:14, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

New Discussion
A few days ago, Night Shine moved the discussion labeled tweak week to the forum because it was getting pretty long with the criteria of apprentice promotions.It can be found here <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 18:48, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I'm a member of PCA but it doesn't include me when they show who is in the clans. Why is this?

Thanks,

B l a z e   f r o s t   R o c k o n, P i l l a r a n d T h r e e D a y s G r a c e! 20:30, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure. I know that Night Shine had deleted a lot of apprentices who had gone inactive, I'm not sure if that applied to you or not, but I'm sure that a lead can add you back in if you'd like. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 21:38, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

Question was never answer
So I saw that a topic got archived though we were waiting on a reply from a senior warrior or leader or deputy possibly about renaming the blanks from .gif to .png. As some of us were stating how when we use the .gif images in gimp, they connect the lineart with the background so it's all black and once you delete it, the entire blank gets deleted. If we could make them .png, the user could make them transparent and this problem could be solved. I know some of you might think, just go to pixlr, it's easier. Well honestly, I hate pixlr so there's no way I'm changing over to that. I started out with that, but after Kitsu told me to change over, I fell in love. So what do you guys at least say about fixing the file problem? The picture is an example of what the blanks look like when open in gimp.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 05:49, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Personally I'm fine with it, I see no reason the keep them gifs. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 09:03, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

I use pixlr but if it is'nt working for some people who use gimp why can't we just fix it? It's easy. Wild fire  13:33, June 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Isn't that a little inconsiderate Darkhallows? I have my own copies of a few blanks but that's only because someone use to help me with them. I've been trying to get my own copy of an elder blank to keep on my computer but because of this problem I can't. I'm just saying there were was a good amount of us that agreed on it, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:32, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Making the images .png won't fix that. . . the backgrounds are black no matter what. I think we should just have all the images with white instead of transparent backgrounds. . . on your program you can select and cut out the white, and you still have the whole blank. 20:12, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... I was saying to change them to .pngs if that would help. I don't have problems with the blanks, so I'm a little confused. If changing them to white backgrounds would help than do that (personally I like this option best). But what ever makes them work. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 20:39, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

I have gimp and it does that for me too. I just click 'Save image as' instead of just copying it and it works fine. But personally, I see no problem with changing them to .pngs. It wouldn't be hard. Or making the BG white. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:28, June 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Making the background white could be fine as well. And sorry Darkhallows, guess I misunderstood what you meant.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 05:31, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I never understood why people don't just save the blanks on their computer. My only problem with the blanks is, in GIMP, you usually have to switch it to RGB mode instead of greyscale. 14:30, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * That still doesn't do any good Ivystripe. If you save the gif images on your computer and open them on gimp on mine, it still gives the exact same picture :/ -- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:29, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I use gimp, and for some reason, when I open the files using mozilla firefox it's fine. But when I open them with google chrome it looks like the picture above. :| 06:08, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Suggestions for my tutorial?
Hi, I'd like to share my hodgepodge tutorial for new users, and I wanted to know what you guys thought about the general guide to Project:Charart. I used images that weren't mine, but I wanted them to be exemplenary (spelling fail xD) to show the person just what I mean. But I wanted to know if you think I should add anything, I don't want it geared towards just one art program and make them think they have to use it. Here's the link: my tutorial 02:02, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

You can't make a tutorial 'til you're a warrior. <font color="#C3C6C7" face="Segoe Script">~ <font color="#AFCAF0" face="Segoe Print">Mis <font color="#87D5ED" face="Segoe Print">teh <font color="#C3C6C7">~ <font color="#87DEDA" face="Segoe Script">Where was I, when the rockets came to life...  07:44, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

No, I distinctly remember a discussion like this on here before, apprentices can make them but it's generally accepted that the art that warriors make are better help. I used approved images as examples. 21:12, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Songbird
I was looking at the Songbird page, but (I'm sorry if this has been dicussed before), she was fighting when she died, which implies she had not moved to the nursery yet. If she had not moved to the nursery yet, she was not a queen yet, so she should have a warrior picture. (sorry if their was something said about this in the book, I read it a long time ago and don't have it near me at the moment to check.) Spottedstar42 The WWi ki van dals Mu st fall!!!  21:42, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

No, she might have been a queen, In one book, Brindleface was in the Nursery, and when Shadowclan attacked, she fought, so, I don't  THINK  she would get a warrior image. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 00:22, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think she should, she was technically a warrior, since on the queen page it says "A queen is a warrior who..." 16:24, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

It actually says A queen is a warrior she-cat that is expecting or has recently given birth to a litter of kits. So not necessarily, since they're just taking a break from their warrior duties to care of their kits. It's like a temporary retirement, once their kits become apprentices, they become a warrior again. 23:37, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Just wondering...?
I read the guidelines for nominating images to be tweaked, but for the ones that don't necessarily count as tweak week material but have teensy tiny errors wrong with them, can we go ahead and fix them? Or do we need to ask somebody? I've seen a few chararts with the wrong eye color and one with stray pixils and I was gonna fix that real quick, if that's allowed. -- 01:25, June 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * Normally stuff like that still would have to wait on Tweak Week even if it was minor-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 17:36, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

No you can change the eye colour, and i dont see anything wrong with getting rid of a few pixels around the charart. 17:47, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Then, I guess I'll add the transparency on the to-bes and softpaws. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 23:17, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

What about changing nose colour? theres a lot of grey/black cats with pink noses, and changing it to grey isnt that big a deal. Maybe not for brown cats though, as there's sometimes debate on the shade and stuff. 04:35, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Pale cats, dark cats, and long-haired cats
1. ok, so an unspecified tabby is brown, i believe, but what about unspecified solid dark/pale cats. what color should they be?

2. i heard on animal planet that long fur is a resesive gene, so, not to anger anyone, but i think that unless i says they are long/fluffy-haired or bushy-tailed, they shoul be short-haired.

Just sayin' Bluestar11796 21:10, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmm I would think that dark and pale tabbies would just be dark brown and light brown. And as for the long fur thing, Warriors has never really been realistic, I think it should stay as the artist's choice whether they want it to be long furred or not. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 19:17, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

i mean solid pales or darks. just wondering because Bluestar was described as both a pale (Revealed in The Sight, page 183) and a dark (Revealed in Bluestar's Prophecy , page 10), but was not specified what color. when and if it's specified, i'd be happy to make a charart for her.Bluestar11796 19:45, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Tweak Week
You can fing the about it here. Be sure to read all the rules before adding anything. 01:32, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Join
May i join, and may i work on Hollyleaf.warrior as my first charart? Bluestar11796 19:44, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

A lead will add you soon. Welcome! But, Hollyleaf already has a warrior charart. And you will be added as a kit, and kits can't do chararts, but you can comment on chararts up for approval. <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 19:47, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

ok, but i meant for tweak week; it says that she needs to be long-haired. but for now, ok.Bluestar11796 21:52, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines to get started. However, during tweak week, it's only the warriors who do work, or at least that's how it was last year. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 22:23, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

May I please join!!!!!!!! 22:51, June 24, 2011 (UTC)CinderxLion Starshine!!

Sure, I'll add you in. Please look at our basic guidelines to get started. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 22:52, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thanx 23:00, June 24, 2011 (UTC)CinderxLion Starshine!!

Please may I join? You may have seen my pictures before if so, you'll have seen how good I am. I have been practising - PLEASE? CloverxBlonde

Sure, I'll add you in. Please look at our basic guidelines to get started. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#bbd2e5">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#3da3ce"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 23:29, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Pale Ginger?
Sandstorm, Goldenflower, and Cloudy Sun are all pale ginger, but each has a different color, sandy, yellow/golden, and orange/ginger respectively. Why is that?

It could possibly be the artist's choice, or their names could have decided it a bit (Sandstorm you'd think of as a sand color, Goldenflower as being golden), and I think there's different types of pale ginger, one of which could allude to the color yellow. Also, in Cats of the Clans, Sandstorm was shown with that color, although we don't do the cats based on books covers/Cats of the Clans. Also, please remember to sign your posts with four ~ We'd really appreciate it. 15:33, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that, and thanks! <span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mintstar  Tick tock, the arena is a clock.  17:52, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... this is off topic but did I do Sandstorm's image? It looks like my old style but I can't remember or find her in the archives. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 07:33, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Agree with Ivyheart! When a queen names her kits, she names them after their pelt color, etc. Sandstorm is a pale ginger, but she has a sandy ginger color. Like Firestar is named for his fire-ginger pelt. Hope that's what you asked for!<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 17:14, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Quitting cause of Flight
Hey, Honeybreeze here. I am going to quit the project because Cherryfur got Flight. I am so heartbroken I am quitting this. Bye...~Honeybreeze not signed in

You don't have to quit just because you didn't reserve a charart on time. There's gonna be lots more opportunities for chararts. 16:28, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Moonleaf. Lots of other members didn't reserve a charart on time too, and they didn't quit :) <font color="#33ccff">Snowdazzle <font color="Cyan" style="background:white;"> ROAD TRIPPP!! 16:32, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah well the thing is I re-reserved it two days ago BEFORE cherryfur reserved it and someone removed it! And Splashpelt told me to reserve it again so i did! ~Honey (the aggervated girl)

Please tell me you're kidding. That is no reason to get upset like this. If you really did reserve it and it was removed, look in the history and show us. If it was removed, then you'll get to do it. But seriously, I don't know why you're upset. Look, I wanted to do one, forgot, and did another one and now I can't do one, but do you see me getting upset? There will be other chances, and plus, two warriors books are coming out soon and I'm sure you can find one to do. So chin up :) 22:05, June 26, 2011 (UTC)