Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Elder Nominations
I checked through the list of Project members and there are several members who have been inactive for a long time, and their Project Books contributions usually consisted of a single Join request. Please post below if you support or oppose the members to be listed as Elders. If you know that someone from the list will return soon and contribute to the Project, please let me know. 09:13, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Blackstar10113 - Last contributive wiki edit in April; last PB contribution in April
 * Brambleberry - Last contributive wiki edit in May; last PB contribution in December
 * FirePelt - Last contributive wiki edit in April; last PB contribution in February
 * Honeyrose34 - Last contributive wiki edit in April; last PB contribution in November
 * Moonbreeze - Last contributive wiki edit in January; last PB contribution in December
 * Mossstar101 - Account disabled (age requirement)
 * Phillies - Last contributive wiki edit in March; last PB contribution in March
 * Rainpelt - Last contributive wiki edit in December; last PB contribution in September
 * Sandwich989 - Userpage states that he / she decided to leave the wiki due time constraints
 * Sorreltail18 - Last contributive wiki edit in April; last PB contribution in January

Vote ends: 10th August

Support

 * 1) Supporting, taking in account the contributions described above 09:13, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) I'm not here, but supporting. -- Sandy star 11:40, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) ♥Ice  storm★  16:07, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * 4)  »Clover« 14:37, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 19:08, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) A N D Y S C H L E C KMousehis now obsessed!   16:10, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Jacket Design?
I've noticed that on the very bottom of the right flap for Battles of the Clans that not only does it say that Wayne McLoughlin is the Jacket artist, but there is a Jacket DESIGNER. Should we include the jacket designer for books that stay in hardcover, such as Battles of the Clans and Secrets of the Clans and the other field guide books?Tawny HEAT WAVE!! 19:39, August 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * This rather has to do with the editor than the author / illustrator... I don't know really. Let's wait for the input of the Project Leader / Deputy. 20:01, August 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't own BOTC so I can't see what you mean for myself. I looked at SOTC however and think that if it is noted on the book jacket then the relevant people should be credited. Which is a long way of saying that I think we should add it in. -- Sandy star 17:50, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, all books mention the name of the jacket artist, be it McLoughlin or someone else. It is the person who put the cover layout together (art, title, text etc). I don't think it is important enough to be added to the articles, but of course this is only my own opinion. 20:04, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I guess I see where you're coming from (I knew what it was though btw), my only issue is that if it is important enough to need to be on the books then surely it is important enough for the article? We pride ourselves on being as informative as possible after all. I was also thinking about the typography and maybe that should be added as well... You said above that it has to do with the editor rather than the author / illustrator... but surely the editor is just as important as anyone else in getting the book on the shelf? Either way I guess we need some more opinions on this. -- Sandy star 09:34, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Twilight and Sunset - Silver Nomination
I would like to nominate the following articles for silver:
 * Twilight
 * Cliffnotes Twilight
 * Gallery Twilight
 * Sunset
 * Cliffnotes Sunset
 * Gallery Sunset

I checked them thoroughly with the books on hand and updated where necessary. They were already in very good shape - thanks for all people working on them - I just applied minor fixes and added references and publication history where needed. Kind regards, 16:40, August 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * These look very good and I have just two tiny things: The Twilight detailed summary could be just a little more detailed as it is a lot shorter than some of our others - not OTT, just a little longer. There are a couple of praise pieces for Sunset that need citations, but they shouldn't be too hard to find. (I should be less lazy and just do it XD) -- Sandy star 17:48, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Regarding Sunset, I simply forgot to add the references... sorry. Fixed now; they are from the back cover. The "Readers love Warriors" section is from the book jacked of the hardcover edition, that is mentioned as well. Regarding Twilight, I might try to expand it further, although I don't know what to add - not many things happened in Twilight. 20:02, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, you're right about Twilight. Are there any more comments before the vote? -- Sandy star 09:38, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The Sight - Silver Nomination
I'd like to nominate The Sight for a Silver Nomination. Just one question, should we include the alternate version where Jaykit, Lionkit and Hollykit have yellow eyes in the gallery, or is that unnecessary? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:01, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

The article is great, but before we make a book article silver, its sub-pages (Cliffnotes, Allegiances, Gallery) must qualify for silver (or be already silver). Allegiances and Gallery are OK, but the Cliffnotes need some work; more detail should be added to them. As for the cover - yes, we should include it, as there were books actually released with this cover. I added it to the Gallery. Kind regards, 18:31, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the Cliffnotes, Helix. I thought myself that they were going to need some work. The problem is that I'm returning The Sight to my friend and I don't own it (well I did, but I lost it ;) anyways, from the rest of the time I have left, I will work my tail off to fix the Cliffnotes ;P Earth  bender Tawny Style! 18:34, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I had to give The Sight back to my friend tonight, but I expanded the Prologue and Chapters 1-3. I'm getting The Sight from the bookstore soon (most likely this upcoming Saturday), but for now, I could use some help for expanding it. Earth bender Tawny Style! 20:26, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for your work, those chapters are really great! Unfortunately I don't have the book so I cannot help out, but I'm sure it will be done soon. Thanks again, 05:05, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I found The Sight!!! :DDD Anyways, I'll continue to work on the Cliffnotes. ;P Earth  bender Tawny Style! 17:56, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I found The Sight!!! :DDD Anyways, I'll continue to work on the Cliffnotes. ;P Earth  bender Tawny Style! 17:56, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

I have a few minor issues with the main article, though the cliffnotes are coming along well. The Trivia section, publish date and praise all needs citations. I'll take a look tomorrow if no one gets this first =) Also, I have a liking for those neat edition sections as can be found on the Midnight and Moonrise articles. It would be really good if we could get that together for this book (if applicable of course) though I have to admit that I need to get my head around how to source the informaton myself, so let's call it a learning curve for just about everyone here. -- Sandy star 17:42, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I don't think I will get it first (quite busy these days), so you (or someone) should "take a look". ;) I started the Editions section however, adding the two known foreign editions; the rest (i.e. the English ones) can be found out easily from amazon. I'm glad you like the idea btw, and as I promised, I will sort out the data for all book articles as a criteria for silver nomination (NP already has them). Of course, if you wish, I can put together some tutorial on where / how to search for info on editions, so you (and others) can help out too. :) 20:23, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

References on Cats
On the main page, at Concerns, it is stated for several books: "Find reference for cats on the cover". Does this refer to the cat in the centre frame (such as Brambleclaw on Midnight), or also to those in the background (e.g. the four silhouettes against the stars on Midnight)? Thanks, 18:51, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Mainly the central character though any references for silhouettes would be nice if they're available =) These references are a pain in the bum to find, well in my experience at least. 18:56, August 8, 2010 (UTC)