Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Briarkit - For Approval
I drew Briarkit. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. G B 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

A few things. One, the background cannot be colored, and also needs to be transparent. I can fix that for you. Two, the eyes are "missing." Three, there needs to be more blending and shading. FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

1. I will fix the background, but I would appreciate it if you made it transparent.2. Her eye-color hasn't been said yet; if it is revealed in Long Shadows, I'll add it.3. If you can give me some tips on how to do the shading and blending, I'll work on it. G B 14:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Idf you downloaded an art program you should have a blurtool if you do you use a darker shade around the edges then you use the blurtool to blend them together.--Redflare 14:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I reuploaded Briarkit; I attempted to some shading. Like it? G B 15:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It's better!-- J K  O  21:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jakko! FxC, any comments? G B 22:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the great comments! If there's anything else I can do to improve it (besides blurtool :p), tell me! G B 22:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks better. The outline need to be black though. For the eyes, I know it hasn't been revealed. I suggest green - it's really neutral. --FxC **The Waterfall** 02:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If we left things out to wait for details from the books, pretty much none of the characters would be able to be done. I'd personally suggest a generic cat-eye-color like amber. Outlines need to be black. Shading is needed. And the pink selected for inside the ears... It's rather... bright and unnatural.. Maybe suggest a softer, gentler pink.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Added her eyes. But I forgot about the black outline, fix that as soon as I can! G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Did the outline. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like the outline was changed from the original lineart... and the eyes... have this creepy staring Zombie thing going on... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Kitsufox is right. It does look like a zombie with these eyes.ZZ Top 19:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should just draw in little pupils to make it look more natural. 97.115.124.162 03:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree...-- J K  O  03:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

This really does look good, GB. Just draw some pupils in like 97... said and blur the shading and ears and it'll look great! -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I have GIMP now! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Much improved. The eyes are still... a bit off. You might wish to spend some more time on them. And the shading needs to get blended into the picture, as does the pink on the inside of the ears (right now it just looks like a dollop of paint fell there). You've sorted the outline issue wonderfully, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Kitsu! I'm on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The ear pink is still unblended and incredibly bright. The shading is still un-blended. The eyes do look good, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll take your advice, Kitsu. I'll work on Briarkit. On the changes. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Your'e so close. I think what'll help is making the pink of the ears more triangular. 97.115.120.104 01:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The pink is really a bit bright yet for such a dark furred cat. And blending it a bit more, so it's just a hint of how thin the fur on the inside of the ears and they'll be pretty good. You should also blend a touch more under the chin, as that shading line is still really sharp. You also missed shading on the bit of belly that shows, and want to make sure all your shading transitions are nice and smooth. You're almost there! <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on this tomorrow. (SB's using the computer, which has GIMP on it.) <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The hard transitions between colors are still there. They need to get blended. Shading needs to be smooth and not look so sharply defined against the rest of the pelt. You're just about there. Get the blending, and I don't think I'll have anything else. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on it tomorrow. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 21:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:16, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

The hard lines are still in the shding, I desparately wangt the shading and blending amped up so she has that aceppted look. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse 01:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Um... what? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 21:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I typed too fast whil holding something. What I meant is that she needs blending on the hard transitions on the shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 18:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me. ;) --Mumble785 23:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I think the ears need a little more blending, and mabye some highlights... If you try and it looks wierd, just don't do the highlights. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 21:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I think the ears could be more pointy... but looks great! ::Applestar4904 16:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll blend the ears a little bit more, but they don't need to be pointier. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that her right ear (on our left) could be a little bit pointier, because it look fairly round right now. The nose looks a little unnatural in the colour, but then I'm used to the warrior ones where you don't even have to colour the nose! In general however, It is great! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Applestar, Dawnfeather, if you guys have a problem with the ears, take it up with Kitsu. She made the blanks, I'm just using them. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 13:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Any other comments before approval? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it's ready ^^.--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 06:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

The eyes look weird. Sorry about the comment with the ears, don't worry about it, i didn't realise. (Dawnfeather, just not logged on) 211.29.46.132 00:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

The neck shading is wider on one side then the other it makes it look angled, other than that good :).

I think this is ready for approval GB. You've done a good job with the image. The only thing I can see is that the nose colour is a lot brighter than the ears; perhaps this could be toned down. Apart from that I'd agree that it's good to go --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:09, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:25, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blended into the rest of the body better. Dawnfeather 08:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Blanks - For Approval


I'm back! This time I'm trying to contribute with these medicine cat blanks. I made them look as realistic as I could, and tried to stick with the style of the previous blanks. And, as trivia, the herb that the medicine cat is carrying is coltsfoot! Well...if one were to color the flower yellow. XD But either way, constructive criticism is welcome. I hope these are fine! C: --Hazelflower 04:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Me likey! --Spottedleaf x firestar 11:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool! The coltsfoot was definately a nice touch!-- J K  O  13:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

First of all, there already are medicine cat blanks up for approval. The coltsfoot was nice, but these blanks look a bit manga-ish. Good effort though. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know there couldn't be more than one up for approval at a time!! I'm sorry. D: Also, do you have any suggestions, perhaps? It'd be more helpful if you were to tell me how to make them look more realistic, rather than just saying they look mangaish, ya know? But I really appreciate the honesty. :D --Hazelflower 20:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, the eyes need to be a bit bigger, and maybe even out the facial features, so the forehead isn't so big? --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 00:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

There can be more than one of a certain blank for approval at a time; just because one is already p, doesn't mean that another can't be posted.–– Σulãlíã 459 678 00:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I think Kitsu is going to deal with this problem soon, that way there won't be any arguements. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * And also I would like to tie in with Eu, the person said they'd like to decline the art themselves so really its ok for another blank to be up. Kitsu just hasn't been up to update it so I see nothing wrong with it all. Also GB and FB I know you guys are helping out alot while Kitsu is away, but you don't have to act like you guys are the leaders of this. I'm just saying how it feels to me. Anyway...I personally love the blank Hazelflower. Great job and they do seem realistic. Maybe you could even redo some of the other bases, you know? -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 04:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, FC. I really appreciate it! C: And I hope it didn't cause any controversy...? I just wanted to make some blanks. XD~ And thanks, Shim-Shim. I appreciate the compliment! :D -Hazelflower 04:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Update! Okay, so I made the foreheads smaller like you (sort of) suggested, FC. I tried to move the facial features around, but it just looked really weird to me. Either way, I hope it looks a little better now. -Hazelflower 00:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Let's get this party started... Very nice work. But not 100% set for approval, as I have a few tweaks. They all probably stem from what I think is a usual Anime-style of drawing that you have. It's not necessarily anything bad, just some tweaks I'd like to see to get them to fit a bit more with existing blanks and amp up the realism a touch. You've got a great start, though. I like the head as it is now. You might want to raise the eyes a pixel or so, but I don't know if that would acctually help deal with the high cranium. It might acctually be best as it is now. Now... Something about the far-foreleg is weird to me... I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's just that it starts so far forward compared to the other. You've acctually got the same effect happening on the far-hind, also. And the tail seems... a tad long. You've got a stellar start, however. OH! And for the longhairs... Can we get a touch of shaggy on the head and legs? Not too much, just a bit! Like at teh elbow and knee and between the ears. Not too much, just a little so they look less sleek. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

All right! :D I worked really hard on improving these, and I hope that they're to everyone's liking. I even moved the eyes up a pixel (and the cat's left eye closer to the other just a bit) and I quite like the result. C: -Hazelflower 22:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They're looking great. I still have one thing I think needs work. It's more pronounced on the shorthair... But there's just something a little weird about the connection of the neck to the body. You're getting there, and it's looking excellent. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Kitsu! Sorry I haven't said anything in, what, a few days? School was busy this week, but now it's the weekend! I'll give an update as soon as I've fixed it. C: -Hazelflower 20:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Update again!! Okay, so, I finally found the time to tweak it just a tad. I brought in the back neckline a bit on the short-hair bases, and I moved down the long-hair back just by about a pixel (but I'm debating on just moving it back up). So, I hope this update is all right! -Hazelflower 02:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks great to me!-- Jakko 123  21:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If you shift the shoulder-blade you added in back a bit, I think it'll be perfect. Putting it in kinda... got my brain around what was off about the shoulder area. Also, keep in mind you'll need to scale the image, also, so that it's in scale with the Warrior Pixel. Great work! <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

How do you tell the difference between the male and female blanks? They all look like females to me. User:Mallinois/ Coyote=background:Black>Coyote  The Doghouse  00:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

The eyes - the females have more pointed eyes where as the males have rounded edges.-- Sandy 20:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

These are great, I hope they get approved. Nice touch ith the herbs.--Redflare 19:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Still, they all look like females, so I suggest adding a more masculine quality to the males. Warm Regards, <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  20:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I like them, but go with what malinois said(make males more massculine), and the full sized blanks are way to huge... --Mumble785 23:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in a while, but please take the feminine quanities out. Can you imagine Jayfeather in one of these? Frankly, I also think that the blanks are manga-ish, and they need to look more like real cats. Otherwise, they look good. Keep working! --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then barked - Ui! 22:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I think I know what you could do to make it less feminine, The point of the head in the side, if you make it less pointy they might look more massculine ..::Applestar4904 14:37, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the shoulder a tiny bit wider on the male. Also, I don't know how good or bad this would look, but maybe make the legs and body a pixel thicker for the tom? Don't know how any of this would look, but I love your effort, and the nice touch with the coltsfoot. Dawnfeather 21:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Much as I like these... they haven't been workd on in months. I don't want to mini-mod or anything but...--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 02:44, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry I haven't been on here for ages. But I'm here now, and I think what I'm going to do, taking all the critiques and constructive criticism I've gotten is either try to restore these or do them over completely. Thanks for the input, everyone! I hope you're all not too very mad at me. :C Hazelflower 17:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Not mad at all! I hope that wasn't offensive, I just like it when the page is free of clutter xD.--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 03:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Thistleclaw - Approved
Nobody seems to talk about him very much. I felt bad for Thistle, so i thought I'd color him. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 05:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I love this image - great job-- Sandy 15:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy! -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I only see a few spots that might need improvement. The spot around the ear is an unnatural circle, as well as the line that defines the light grey from the dark grey on the left foreleg. Maybe the shading could be amped up a bit. And some highlights on the forelegs would be nice. Otherwise, this is beautiful, Bramble. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll see about the highlights and amping the shading, but I don't know what you mean about an unnatural circle. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 23:36, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I think FxC means the ear's ending has an unnatural curve...--<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Woof! DoggieDish 17:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow. O.O --Mumble785 14:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I think it looks good, just the ear has an odd curved ending to where it blends into the pelt. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then howled bravely - Ui! 22:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I agree. I think that you could make the shape of the tranistions between the colours seem more random, if that makes absoulutely any sense! Not just on the ear, but on the muzzle and the tail, and it you want to be ridiculously fussy, the foreleg as well. Overall, though, looking good! The shading and blending is perfect! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:53, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I think this is ready. Anything else that needs to be worked on before approval? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

No, it's good now. Actually, it's a lot better than a few of the ones that were approved a long time previously. Oh well, at least we have GB approving some and cleaniong up the page a bit now. Aprrove it! Dawnfeather 05:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

III LIVE!!! Bramble has returned! XP I know this is close to being approved, thanks Dawnfeather and GB, but I tweaked the ear as Mallinois suggested and the fur around the foreleg and I think it looks better.

T'will be more active now that this page is starting to get cleaned up. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 02:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

This should be approved. Great work Bramble!--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 10:36, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Whitethroat - For Approval


Okay, I got bored seeing as I currently have nothing else to do on my other images at the moment and decided to colour Whitethroat. Please comment appropriately. -- Sandy 17:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I think you pretty much have this done, except for the paint-like swirlyness. Try blurring full-time. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  22:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Better?-- Sandy 16:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Preety Good. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  23:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Whitethroat also haas white paws -- random guest

Okay, I'll work on that when I have time-- Sandy Leader's Den  10:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

This looks really good. The blending is beautiful, and the shading is great too.-- Jakko 123  15:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I added his paws - thanks for reminding me, I forgot they were white too. Anything else need changing?-- Sandy Leader's Den  12:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

If I could accept it, I sure would! I don't think anything needs to be changed! But that's my opinion. --Mumble785 19:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Mumble :)-- Sandy Leader's Den  20:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Mumble, that's not true. There's still a lot it needs. Sandy, the shade of black you picked is really dark, and it makes it hard to see the eyes. Also, the back paws are still black. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 22:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I lightened the colour and coloured the back paws white. I've also added some darker shading along the back and in the other usual places now this is visible.-- Sandy  Leader's Den  12:26, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Better... *nods head and gives two thumbs up* --Mumble785 18:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Perfect. Flamefeather 18:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think he could use a white dot for the pupil...or is it iris? Correct me on the word if I'm wrong. I'm in physical science now and totally forgot everything XD-- Shimmer Crystals 03:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Better?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 13:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

hmm...i edited it and reuploaded but over five hours later and the changes still aren't showing on my cp...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

The change is finally showing. Is this better Shim?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Some of the outline looks changed. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Puppy's Crib The Puppy then howled bravely - Ui! 22:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Not that I'm aware of...where do you mean?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it's the further ear (where it meets the head). -- MU MB LE 785  20:43, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Mumble, I didn't spot that. I've fixed the outline now and it should be showing up correctly. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm being ridiculously fussy, but I think that the shape of the white on the front should be a little more random. Just make it staick out in a place or two. Also, the dark shading on the bottom part of the top part of the hind fore-leg (if that makes any sense! I mean the part which is like the knee/thigh) the shading is a little bit weird. It ends in a round shape, instead of smoothly ending. Keep in mind that i am in a cruel, judging unfairly mood, before you are offended by my critism. It is really good! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 13:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not offended Dawnfeather. Thanks for pointing out its faults! I've worked on the legs and tried to smooth the endings out (even though I got confused by which leg you meant!) I also tried to do something with the chest fur...not sure whether it looks better or worse though --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I love it, Sandstar! (Sorry, just a random thought, while thinking of your name. Sanstorm would make a good leader!) I can see no faults anymore! Sorry for confusing you. I even confused myself a little bit too! Dawnfeather 23:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks (and yes she probably would!) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 09:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The eyes are a bit small, making them bigger might help, otherwise, I like. --Firebird2102

The eyes are the standard size; I haven't changed the lineart so I can't really make them bigger...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I decided to update myself and I tweaked the white fur blending. Is there anything else? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:04, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Along the back it seems like there are some white/gray pixels. --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 02:50, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I've had a look but I can't see anything ut of place. The only thing there is the shading and highlights...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:13, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

The ear is way too dark. Otherwise, this is good. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Fireheart (Declined)


I know, he needs improvements. I can't get GIMP, but I'll try my best on paint and soon I might get a photo editor. Now, I need some advice!!! --Mumble785 01:40, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

First off, it is Fireheart, not FireHeart. There is barely any shading, but where there is it isn't blended. The color could be more of an orange, it looks reddish to me. A good start, just needs improvement.-- Jakko 123  02:23, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I'll use your advice to improve it, since I know have a program that has the "blend" tool. ;) I'll get him reuploaded and improved in no time. --Mumble785 22:38, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Ok, so I added more shading, blended the shading, made him more orange than red, spent more time on the eye and added the ear pink becase I felt like it. Is that better? --Mumble785 23:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

It needs much more shading, and hightlights need to be added. Ginger is the same as pale red tabby, so you need tabby stripes and more of a "flame colored" pelt. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  01:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, two questions: 1.) Are the blended stripes gonna be horizontal or vertical? 2.) Where are the places I missed with shading? --Mumble785 01:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't actually think it needs more shading. Maybe down the belly wold be nice. When we mean blended, we mean make it go nice into the orange color. There should be more of a faded boundary then a thick, straight boundary.-- Jakko 123  15:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

kk. I'll add a teensy bit more shading down the belly, and maybe a little on the hind leg wouldn't hurt... --Mumble785 18:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I added and improved my shading on the chest, belly, and legs. Is that better? --Mumble785 18:40, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I saw that you couldn't get GIMP and sometimes I don't use it when my computer is very slow. Try pixlr.com, its like an online photoshop. I use it a lot and it actually works rather well. You can upload this image using the url on there so u can edit it, then you can save it. It has all the same effects as photoshop and GIMP. If you need help using it leave a message on my talk page. And with the image, it needs shading on the back and its sorta fuzzy. Did you save it as JPG? Try PNG file type. It works a lot better :) -- Shimmer Crystals 02:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

There needs to be more shading on the back, head and muzzle. A tinge of "Fire-color" needs to be added. This color is too orange, it needs to be more reddish orange. And there are a lot of unneeded color blotches...it looks too pixelish now. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, the eye looks a little wierd. I don't really know what's happened to it...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The eye has that creept zombie thing going on..., so try what I do. Color in the middle four spaces the color of the eye. Than color the top right white, and the top left black. Works like a charm.(By the way, cool sig Sandy) --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  14:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I'll work on it! --Mumble785 18:16, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

REUPLOADED once again. I redid the whole image using paint and pixlr. I love that program now! Ok, a improved and added shading, added highlights to the back, made him more reddish, and did the eye using Malinois's method. What do you think? --Mumble785 16:37, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Much better but could use some shading on the back.-- Shimmer Crystals 05:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

kk. I'm on it! --Mumble785 17:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Added a teensy bit of shading on the back above the highlights. --Mumble785 17:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Add the tabby "m" and tabby stripes. For reference, use Dustpelt and Squirrelflight's pics. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I have a small doubt and a good feeling about him now. I made him simalar to Squirrelflight. You like? --Mumble785 23:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

A bit better, but I think the tabby markings stick out too much. Well not think, I'm positive. They seem bright against his pelt. Also some of the shading seems closer to the black outline. I'm not sure if this is my computer or something.-- Shimmer Crystals 01:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I'll make the tabby markings blend into his coat more. --Mumble785 23:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Is that good, or did I over-do it? --Mumble785 23:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Better, but it looks a bit blurry behind his ear in the back.-- Shimmer Crystals 00:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you outlined the whole image. Did you smudge out the outline for shading? --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  16:15, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I sharpened behind the ear, and no I didn't smudge the outline. --Mumble785 21:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Better, but for his eyes did you use a really dark green or leave them black? Fireheart(star whatever...) has emerald green eyes.-- Shimmer Crystals 03:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I used a light green for the eyes. I'll make it more emerald... -- MU MB LE 785  18:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

He needs a little light in him. Try adding highlights. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:16, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

ok. -- MU MB LE 785  18:58, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I made the eye darker and added a little bit of highlighting. -- MU MB LE 785  20:30, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

He is very...bright. Is there any way to tone it down a little? (to make it look more natural cat coloured) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, like, turn down the... um... hang on, I'll get the word it the moment... contrast, or brightness down a bit? Also, I think there needs to be more shading behind the shoulder and under the head on the neck, like on Gorse's Weaselfur. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 13:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I'll work on that. Until I get the renovations done though, i'm putting it on hold. -- MU MB LE 785  17:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Please work on this, Mumble. You can't put images on hold. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Applekit - Approved


Okay, I know there are a lot of images up for approval right now, but I got bored waiting for progress on the ones I already have up and so I started work on some others. Well, here's Applekit (sc)-- Sandy Leader's Den  17:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

It's adowable!!!!!!! One thing I say though is that it needs to be darker, as Applekit is dark ginger. Other than that, it's cute(Mallinois like cute :) --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  19:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Better now? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 15:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[And thanks Mallinois :)]--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 15:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Much better. She looks like a wittle apple! I guess thatr's why they named her Applekit. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  16:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Is there anything else anyone thinks I need to do with this image at the moment?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I found that she still needs to be darker, and mabye add tiny tabby markings... -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:17, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've made her darker. I'm not sure about the tabby markings but I'll work on it -<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I think she willl need tabby markings, but i don't know how much they have to stand out. Try to make them not too much darker than the base fur colour, but still dark enough that yo;u can see them easily. Dawnfeather 23:19, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

She doesn't need the tabby markings. Any other comments before I approve this image? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:54, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Again, I like this one. I think you should approve it. --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 07:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Clovertail for approval


A piece of artwok that I am throwing at you because I got bored, once again. I need advice! --Mumble785 17:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

You're adding a highlight down the back, instead of shading. As I have said, use Gorse's Weaselfur as a model for shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  21:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

You can add a highlight too, but I think you need a thicker band of shading behind it before the highlight--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 16:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Is that better? --Mumble785 00:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I can see that the outline's blended. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 23:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Better? I also added more shading. -- MU MB LE 785  18:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

It looks too dark. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

ok. i need to put some of my images on hold, including this one. not able to be as active as I used to. :( -- MU MB LE 785  18:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think there is anything to fix in this. It's really good, I think it's the best one I've seen so far. Can someone please approve this? Please.-- Thornpath togehodou 05:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

-Gets excited- Thanks, Thornpath! -- MU MB LE 785  20:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I love it, i really do, but i think that the shading under the chin is a little bit weird. Have a look at weasel fur, and try and make the shading there stick out a little more underneath the head? Dawnfeather 23:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok. -- MU MB LE 785  17:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Mosskit - For Approval
Here's my go at Mosskit (Bluestar's dead kit). The gender isn't really specified but I went with female. F x  C  15:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean male. Anyway, Mosskit is Blue-gray in Secrets of the Clans, and when he sees Snowfur for the first time it says he has green eyes. --72.34.4.6 17:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

No, she meant female. That wouldn't likely be a typo. FxC, I think Mosskit is supposed to be male. The only time it calls him female is in Cats of the Clans. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

On page 78 of SotC, it says: Mosskit hesitated, looking up at me with wide green eyes. "But what about my mother." --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  19:04, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Mallinois, could you please give a reference for that? GB, it was a typo. I meant male. And anyway, could you please comment on the actual artwork? F x  C  23:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

It could use a bit more blending, and The eyes make it look...Wise and old. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  23:18, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

More blending of the shading is needed - also, the background needs to be transparent. <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 15:05, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

The eyes look hooded. Perhaps you could try putting the color on the sides of the eyes and on one pixel above the pupil, leaving the other pixel white. And maybe blur the shading, as Sandy suggested. Other than that, awesome. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 02:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Spiderleg-for approval
User: Darkhallows I was bored, so I decided to do some art.

The coding was wrong. I fixed it. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 23:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

The image is blotchy, there's no shading, and it has blotches of white. The brown belly needs blending into the pelt. The eye also looks wierd. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 23:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I worked with it, is it better? user: Darkhallows


 * The brown belly is perfect, but the ears look unatural almost white? Make them a different pink but blur them because how black cats' ears are. Look at a few pictures for reference.-- Shimmer Crystals 02:56, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I fixed the ear. I wanted to point out this is my first time with the art and I'd like to join or whatever.user: Darkhallows

I really like the belly. But the eyes look like he had too much coffee, and there's something about the ears... <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * He took my advice at looking at pictures of black cats. Good, but you didn't have to add the extra hair on the ears. You could just blend the pink in more and smudge black around it giving the fur over taking it affect.-- Shimmer Crystals 02:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

She. I didn't look at pictures, just my cat. (His name is Spider, oddly enough). But yeah should I blend it or not?


 * Oopsies XD sorry Darkhallows. She did! You'd be better off blending them in well.-- Shimmer Crystals 03:53, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the ear I also tried to redo the eye, but I don't like it... Darkhallows 01:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't either. He looks like he has invisible hooks pulling his eyes back. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 19:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I couldn't agree more. I tried again. UGH I've never had problems with eyes before.--Darkhallows 09:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, is the ear to bright? Darkhallows 01:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes...I'd say the ear is a little bright. I think you need to chose a darker pink (see some of the accepted black cat pixils for a colour idea) and blend it into the pelt a lot more thoroughly. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Is it better now? Darkhallows 09:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

It is better than it was before. You could still go for a deeper pink if you wish though. This looks good --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

The back and the face anre amazingly blended, but the belly doesn't look like it has been blended at all. Dawnfeather 23:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I see what you two mean... I'm working on it now, hopefully it's updated by the time you read this. --Darkhallows 03:38, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

It's a lot better, but you could probably go for a little tiny bit more blending on the front though. Dawnfeather 02:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. Also blended a few other places, and fixed the lines on his chest.--Darkhallows 10:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Blended the whole body a little so it doesn't look so pixely. I also changed the eye to the one on the blank. Any comments? Please?--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 08:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it is ready for approval Dawnfeather  08:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I think this looks really good. You definitely need to get rid of the cyan background though - it should be transparent...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

It is transparent...--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 04:47, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

hmm...it's showing up as bright blue for me...must be my computer. sorry Darkhallows--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:12, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll check it out on my other computers ^^. Anything else you see that needs to be fixed?--<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 01:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

No. I like this image Darkhallows.--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Queen Blanks - Declined
Hello, I'm new to wikis in general(so I appologize if I make mistakes)! I decided to start out with these blanks that I made in photoshop. Hope they get approved! I'm open to any constructive criticism. --Melonlemon 03:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

These look great! The front legs could be a little longer, but overall good job! Realistic, and you made them look nice and pudgy! lol. Flamefeather 12:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Very good job! One thing I'd like to say is make the eye like the warrior blanks and straighten the muzzle expression to make it look less cartoony. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 13:21, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, you'll need to scale the real blank down in size to match the warrior blanks. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 16:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Updated! Thanks everyone! They are pudgy because they are preggo cats XD I thought it would distinct the queens well hehe. I changed the eyes to be blank; I changed the mouth to be less "smiley". I did not change the front legs, because I realised the problem was that I made the body too long; the legs should now be closer to the proper leg-body proportions. I also got rid of the extra white space around them so they are bigger-looking in the thumbnail. I'll try to scale down the pictures soon, but I think it is a bit of a problem because these queen blanks are horizontaly posed, not verticaly posed like the other blanks. But we'll see! Thank you guys for the input <3 any more critique is welcome! --Melonlemon 03:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * These are awesome! The only thing I hope is that you don't go through the same thing I did with Sandstorm because there was another one up for being approved so they might get rid of it quickly. I know some who might jump to that, but the other blank hasn't been update for a while so I think you might have a good shot at this. I'm not sure why this is bugging me, but the shape of the back it just seems so humped up.-- Shimmer Crystals 04:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you ^^ yeah I feel also kinda nervous about an ordeal like that. XC another update: I scaled them. I'lll clean up the line art as I add more tweaks to them. Will fix the hump. XD --Melonlemon 04:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Good job with your scaling. Even if that ordeal does happen, just reupload it again later XD. I think these will be perfect queen blanks. I agree with you leaving the eyes blank, but maybe atleast add a pupil or something. I forget what that other part in your eye is called. -- Shimmer Crystals 05:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, there can be more than one up for approval. Shim, your Sandstorm was declined so quickly for being way too small. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 13:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

It looks better! I love the expression they have! You did really well at getting them pudgy, but not looking like footballs with four sticks, a head, and a tail. I've seen preggo drawings like that. Better than I could ever do. Flamefeather 18:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

They should be updated, but the images haven't been overidden yet. It is taking a long time Dx when the changes show up, there should not be a 'bump' in the back, with cleaner lineart. I decided to leave the eyes blank still. People can add in the pupil if they want to, or something (this can change if you really need it). Again, thanks for the crits! --Melonlemon 01:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

They finally updated! the changes happened finally. :D --Melonlemon 01:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow! I really like these. The only thing is that the closer front paw looks a little off to me. Otherwise good.Darkhallows


 * On the long haired base, there's a white line above the back. It looks like where the lineart was place to seperated it from the background.-- Shimmer Crystals 03:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Updated. Sorry for the long wait. Straightened up the paw and fixed the white! --Melonlemon 19:27, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * gasp* Ok, ok. I admit it! your good. but... but, but, but... I'm watchin' you. o.O -- MU MB LE 785  18:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

On the tail (long-hair) there is some fur sticking up, half-way down, and it looks rather unnatural. EDIT- of course, I hit 'save page' without signing first--Darkhallows 23:09, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

These look really really good! The only thing I suggest is that you don't enclose the toes with the lineart completely on the hind leg. It kind of makes it look like the toes are separated more from the rest of the foot. Do you know what I mean? If not ignore me I'm just nit-picking, and I'm not a pro at cats either. They look great! :) --Goldencloud 03:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I think that the ears are too big, like mice or rabbit's ears! (No offense!) <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 13:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

These haven't been worked on for months. Declining. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Firestar: Declined


I drew Firestar. Please let me know what you think. Constructive criticism is definitely appreciated. Thanks! Sparrowsong 05:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * FireSTAR is a leader, please wait for a leader blank.Darkhallows

Oops. Do you still like it, though? Sparrowsong 16:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't matter; this can't be accepted. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 22:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Even if is was a leader blank, it has absolutly no blending and I can tell it was made with paint. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 22:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I did make it in paint, but I had to because I don't have photoshop. And yes, I know it's not perfect. Nevermind, I know it would never be accepted. Sparrowsong 23:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you just go and download GIMP or use pixlr.com? It easier than doing this with paint. Besides I think if we're making everycat have a picture for their different stages, all Firestar pictures (from kittypet to leader) should be the same color as well.-- Shimmer Crystals 03:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

You need to wait for the leader blank, you need to make him ginger, (not yellow) you need more shading, and he's a tabby so you need the tabby markings. Look at my pic, FireHEART, for examples on coloring. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  18:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I think this should be declined because it hasn't been worked on for two months. It is the wrong blank and there is already a Fireheart up for approval which was submitted previous to this image. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 12:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:43, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Declined for all of the reasons above. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:33, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Berrynose - For Approval
Hi, this is my first entry! I hope you like it. I did it on corel painter essentials 4.-- Thornpath togehodou
 * I know Berrynose is cream, but it looks you just gave him a bunch of orange lines on a white background. Plus there needs to be shading and that means tons of that.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 04:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

The tail certainly needs fixing. Badly. The outline is also very thin. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="Limegreen" style="background:Black">lin  ois  14:34, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Update:Okay, I took some advice and added some shading. Also, I took someones advice and changed the coloring a bit. What do you think-- Thornpath togehodou 21:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you please explain how the tail needs fixing?--Thornpath 20:07, 15 February 2009 (UTC)Thornpath

It doesn't. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 20:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I think the fur coloring is -extremely- well done! My only crit is that I think the eyes should appear more amber in colour; right now it looks a little black. --Melonlemon 02:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Isn't Berrynose's nose supposed to be a stunning pink (via the name and Firestar's Quest)? -- MU MB LE 785  18:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Um, well on these blanks it doesn't give you the choice to color in the nose.-- Thornpath togehodou 05:29, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I know about the fox trap and how his tail died, but I mean use the short-haired blank's tail to make it shorter. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Mal <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">lin ois  00:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

NOW it looks good. Just need to fix the blurred outline. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib - Ui! 19:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I did use the short haired blanks. Leafpool might not of cut it that short. And she bit it off when he still had kitten fur. His tail fur could of grown unnaturally.-- Thornpath togehodou 05:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I really like it, but the lines on the throat are slightly colored brown.--Darkhallows 01:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The needs to be more shading, and the tail is long haired while the body is short haired, which looks weird to me. I also find the stripes weird.They all end so adbruptly, and I think you need to blend them into the belly. Also, I think that they need to be blended into each other as well, because they look so unnatural. Either blur/blend the stripes, make wider, tabby stripes, or get rid of the stripes completely. Dawnfeather 06:27, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Tail fur usually gets like that if the tail is missing (http://www.pictures-of-cats.org/images/japanese-bobtail-cat-picture.jpg) but yeah, the stripes could be blended more. --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 23:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Leader Blanks- Declined
Hello again! :) We are in dire need for some leader blanks, so I'm trying to make some. Some of the line art (especially the longhaired ones) might be a little messy. Critique well appreciated! ---Melonlemon 02:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

These are great! But I would make more of a gender difference. Thin down the females legs maybe.Darkhallows 07:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Not sure I agree that a bigger gender difference is needed...There's already the difference between the eye shape and the differences in chest fur and body shape. These are really good Melonlemon, the position they're sat in is very regal, just how I would expect a leader to be sat. Something about the ears is annoying me slightly though...I think they may be a little too big on the insides...maybe. I like these images though. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I love these. They're sooo awesome. I'm allowed to say that because I'm not also doing leader blanks. I'm still watching... O.o -- MU MB LE 785  17:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

These look like... mice. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

GB! You can't say that!! They don't look like mice at all, don't worry :) --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Sandstar, I can say what I want, thanks :/. They do look like oversized mice. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 20:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

They good and all but the ears look a bit big, or like GB said, makes it look like mice. Maybe make them a bit shorter or something. <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">Sky <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">feather <font color="Lightgreen" style="background:Black">1995 20:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

[GB - No need to be touchy, it was meant in a friendly way. But so as not to let this get in the way of the actual images...]Skyfeather is right Melonlemon --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Fixing spacing images and sections problem... --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib - Ui! 00:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

hehe, they do look like mice! XD Thanks for pointing that out, I posted them here for crits after all. I agree about the ears. in any case, I'll find some time later to fix that. And thanks Mallinois! --Melonlemon 06:23, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

These look really cool! What would make then look even better is if you don't make them smile. Ya know, something more serious looking. Also, I suggest making the eyes a bit bigger and ad a pupil. Really awesome though.-- Thornpath togehodou 00:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Super Update! Finally got the time to work on them. Now they are more realistic. Thanks everyone! --Melonlemon 04:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I love these! Someone please approve of them! They could be leader pics or deputy pics.-- Thornpath togehodou 00:27, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

OMG!!! I'll finally get to do bluestar!!! YAY!!! I es LOVE dem!!! -- MU MB LE 785  19:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Good work Melonlemon, but I do have a few suggestions. On the short-haired male you have a line which I'm guessing you're trying to show where the neck and shoulder connect. You could either keep this and add it to the others or delete from this pic. I say they look best without it though. On the male long-haired his chest fur is connected with his chin which looks down right awkward. Also his leg fur are connected together (his hind leg and foreleg)while all the other templates are spaced out. Please fix this. Overall the females are fantastic! Keep all your fantastic work up-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 02:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm.. .I see what you mean! Unfortunately, I won't be able to work on these (or the queen ones) in about 2 weeks because I will be on vacation :U Gotta go! See ya ;) --Melonlemon 02:57, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

These are AWESOME! I can see no fault. The line on the shoulder of the male longhair looks good to me, not out of place at all. Dawnfeather 23:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. They look like their fur's all matted up. Also, these haven't been worked on forever. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:41, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Breezepelt - Declined


I was bored so I did some cats. I'm getting better at this! Flam efeat her 20:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Please move these into two different sections. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 20:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I like them! Needs shading, though. Oh, yeah, different section.;) --Warrior♥ 21:46, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I put them into two sections. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib - Ui! 00:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink needs more blending and maybe try adding a highlight down the back?--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 20:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

The ear is too bright (ears are such a pain!) and the belly shading makes it look like... he's black, with a darker black belly. I would lighten it up and add more shading elsewhere.--Darkhallows 09:52, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Darkstripe for approval



 * Voila. Two sections. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib [[Image:Himatsu.PNG|50px]] - Ui! 00:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Needs blending, and Darkdtripe is gray and black, not brown. His eyes should be either blue or pale yellow. That's what he's been mentioned with. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Green" style="background:LimeGreen">The Puppy's Crib [[Image:Himatsu.PNG|50px]] - Ui! 00:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Updated to be gray and black. I originally made it as a Dustpelt, but one's already submitted. I alway thought of Darkstripe as brown (bad, bad me). He's gray/black now. Flam efeat her 20:23, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I would add more shading to it, he looks a little plain. Also the eye color doesn't show through very well. Darkhallows 23:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, the ears pink needs blending into the pelt - it's too bright and stand-out-ish at the moment. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:59, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

This looks really nice! I love the colours you used. The only thing that needs fixing is the shadowing (which needs to be put in between the leg and front leg and under the ear. Also, and some stripes on the tail and then your all set!-- Thornpath togehodou 05:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

thanks everyone! Updated to have more shading, blended ear, striped tail. Flam efeat her 12:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

It's an improvement but still more shading needed I think. Try adding some on the head, back and legs--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Brownpaw-Approved


I have no idea if this is any good, I almost never color like this. But whatever... I felt kind of bad that he was around for five books and was never made a warrior, and then he poofed.--Darkhallows 10:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it's pretty good! I do feel sorry for Brownpaw, and any other cat that never gets to become a warrior. Can I make a suggestion? I think you should add some more smaller stripes on his back and hind leg. Just a suggestion, though! --Goldencloud 03:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

The thing is I added that little dark patch on his hindleg, to sort of complete the leg, so stripes would be awkward looking, I can add more on the back though. Darkhallows 05:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

You need to blend the stripes. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois B e w a r e  o f   F l u f f y 22:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Better? Darkhallows 01:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

No one was commenting, so I updated it myself. Darkhallows 08:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I really like it, but the stripe shapes seem unnatural for a cat. (Keep in mind that i have not met many cats in my life, even if i have had a lot of experience with the ones i do know.) Dawnfeather  08:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Changed to the kind of stripes that others have. Are they better?--Darkhallows 10:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

YES I love them! Dawnfeather 23:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 07:52, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

There is a lack of tabby markings at the top of the front foreleg -- Dawnfeather 09:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 10:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Heathertail (Approved)
I hope this is acceptable for character art, this is the first one of these I've done. I did this on Photoshop Elements 6, with my mouse. Do you guys think she's too dark? She's described as a light brown tabby, and to me she looks light brown. Anything that you say needs fixed I will be happy to fix! I'm sorry if this sounds like a deviantART comment that's what I'm used to writing. :) --Goldencloud 03:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT1 - I lightened her up a bit, but I tried to keep the stripes a little bit darker. And I added the stripes on the back of her neck. Thank you for the advice! --Goldencloud 00:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT2 - Completely redid her fur. I tried to "randomize" the stripes and make them more squiggly sort of, and made her even lighter. If the stripes are still "cartoony" or look like tatoos, I'm going to need more specific help. :) --Goldencloud 22:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

First off, welcome to Charart. Onto the image, I like it. I would make her a little lighter though. Darkhallows 05:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! And done! --Goldencloud 02:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

omG, I love it! -- MU MB LE 785  18:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Goldencloud 02:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

As much as this is loved, her tabby markings look like tatoos, especially the one coming from her eye. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y is W a t c h i n g. .. 23:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. How can I fix it? --Goldencloud 02:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I personally like that...Darkhallows 04:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

OooLala! Very nice! I did at first expect her to look a little for of a golden colour like in the cats of the clans but this is really nice. I just hope that if they approve of this picture that they won't expect the rest of us to make ours look that good. (that's sorta a compliment)-- Thornpath togehodou 05:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

This really has issues. The tabby markings are WAY too cartoony, and they still look like a henna artist did them. The image also looks in need of a lighter color, as Heathertail is light brown. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y i s W a t c h i n g 00:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't fix it until I know how to. Okay, they look cartoony. How do I make them look more realistic? And she IS light brown. --Goldencloud 21:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the tabby markings are "cartoony," but they do kinda look like tatoos. Maybe try to blend them more, and get rid of the one coming from the eye. That should make it look better. EDIT~ I did it again! What is up with me and my timesignatures? Gosh!!! -- MU MB LE 785  20:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll try that. Don't worry about the timesignature thing, I forget all the time! --Goldencloud 21:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Really pretty ^^. --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 03:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I actually really like this and you've obviously worked hard to get it to this standard.--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 12:36, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Joining
Could I join?--<font color="BlueGreen" style="background:Black">Nightgaze <font color="White" style="background:Blue">Iceberry’s Den 02:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think you have to ask to join, I didn't. Just color a cat that hasn't been done yet and post it. --Goldencloud 02:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

You're not a member of PCA just because you post a pic, you have to ask to join. Plus, might I suggest just drawing pictures for now. Kitsu is very busy, so we don't have a s much time for this now. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y is W a t c h i n g. .. 22:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well actually, I didn't even ask to join when I made my first images, Squrrielflight and Crowfeather (who needs so more comments please). I just worked really hard on them until one was accepted. I believe if you just keep working on the images, being devoted, and giving advices to the others you become a member.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 23:57, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

You can join, Nightgaze :). <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 00:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Leader pixle - Declined


Hey, I have another leader pixle. Here it is. It's really simple. Just seeing if these will do. I also have a girl medicine cat somewhere. I'll put it up later. thanks guys! --MERLOCK 23:26, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the coding. They are alright, but there is really not much detail, not even whiskers. There will need to be long-hairs as well. The head is a little to small and the eyes look weird at that angle, especially on the female. --Darkhallows 05:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

First off, I don't think it's fair that you are doing this because Melonlemon is. About the image, these kind of look like Egyptian cat statues I would find in a museum. ZZ Top <font color="LimeGreen">Get Your Wings  This House Is On Fire  12:14, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry if I crashed Melonlemon's party! Hee hee, I've had these made for about a month, or longer, and my parents had to think about me making an account, so I had them for a long time. But hey, do you need new pixels of the warriors? I can make some. (or attempt to. ;) --MERLOCK 13:32, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You can have more than one up for approval from different users, but these look like egyptians and the canvas needs to be fixed. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y i s W a t c h i n g 13:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Ya, I know, they do look funny. How do become an official member of project character art? Do I just ask and that's that, or does someone have to like approve? Thanks! --<font color="green" style="background:Black">MERLOCK( The Dragon Rider)  70px | <font color="Chocolate" style="background:green">Fantasy is real, who believes me?  19:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:13, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Mistyfoot - Declined
I know that I'm not technically a member yet, but I made Mistyfoot. (This is my first try. Criticism well appreciated)--<font color="BlueGreen" style="background:Black">Nightgaze <font color="White" style="background:Blue">Iceberry’s Den 03:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Not bad, I like her eyes a lot. But I would suggest using a more grey colour instead. Not to dark a grey though. The shadings good but you'll need it in more areas. And ad a pink for the ear. (they should really draw the outline of the inside of the ear. That would help all of us.-- Thornpath togehodou 05:27, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The lineart seems messed up, it may be from saving it as gif.--Darkhallows 05:40, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

You don't have to be a member to make art, but Mistyfoot is a deputy, and we need more current pixels. Brambleclaw was a warrior when he was made, so he's really a deputy. -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Black">F l u f f y i s W a t c h i n g 00:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I think there needs to be a lot more shading. It seems to be a solid blue/grey colour, with a little bit of shading.

I don't think we need a deputy blank. But we do need medicine cats, leader, queen, and elder ones. Deputies are still warriors, but I guess you could say the same thing for leaders. Dawnfeather 02:24, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I disagree Dawnfeather. If we're going to have seperate blanks for apprentices, kits, leaders, medicine cats, rogues, kittypets, elders (you get the picture...) then why not for deputies? As for this image - I agree that the colour is too blue and needs to be more cat-coloured. The shading also needs to be increased and worked into the pelt to look more natural also. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 18:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

You gotta point. I agree with everything written above. Dawnfeather 21:40, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I think this should be declined, GB Dawnfeather  04:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Can I Join?
Can I join as a Warrior or something? I am so devoted to this project, I just thought I should join. -- MU MB LE 785  21:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

GB has added you in as a warrior on the main page. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:07, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Mousefur - for approval
I know this is my second one this weekend, but I thought I may as well get in here and do Mousefur while I can. I like her much better than my Hollyleaf. I wasn't sure of the colour of her eyes, so I just did them amber. Constructive critism would be very much appreciated. ( How do I/ can I offically join the project as a warrior?) Dawnfeather 02:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Make her more realistic in her colors. She looks either like she was a technicolor cat once, or a robot colored her. Try more blending where the colors change into shading and highlights. (Mumble785, again. Still lazy...) --68.102.111.72 19:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I wanted to do more, make her a bit darker, blend a bit more, ex., but GIMP is throwing a fit. Opacity is either 100% or 0%. However, I did the best I can for the moment, and I shall try and update her as much as I can until GIMP is a bit more... cooperative. Does anyone know why or how it is doing this? Or how to fix it? Dawnfeather 05:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how to fix Gimp, but I like this image. The colour is great - very 'dusky brown' and I can see the shading coming along nicely. When you do eget GIMP working again I would just suggest blending it more to create a smoother transition betweeen the colours. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Um, I know this is a stupid question, but how do you blend on GIMP? Whenever I try it comes up with a little symol for the mouse which instead of just having the blend symbol on it, also has a little circle with a dash through it, telling me I CAN'T blend. Dawnfeather 08:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I wouldn't know because I don't have GIMP but someone recommended www.pixlr.com earlier on this page so you could try that. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Use the blur tool (the one that looks like a water droplet). --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 02:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I've already tried that... Dawnfeather 08:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I went to pixlr and I actually made it a bit better, or at least that's what I think. I could probably make it smoother again if i spend some more time, but I can't right now. Dawnfeather 09:16, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, i've done some more. Dawnfeather 00:04, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

You may have had it set to 'Sharpen' (in your GIMP). It looks better, but the outline is smudged in some places. --<font color="black" style="background:red">DarkHallows Lair 04:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I've given up on GIMP, and am now using pixlr, because unlike GIMP, it does not hate me! I cleaned up the line art. I probably blended some more as well earlier today, but i'm not sure. Anything else? Dawnfeather 09:42, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I really like this Dawnfeather. It looks a lot better than before. Good work! --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 10:44, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sandstar. Anything I can work on? Dawnfeather 06:37, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Elder Blanks - For Approval
We are in need of elder blanks, so i thought i would make some. What do you think? I'm having some troubles with the size.Dawnfeather 04:34, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I think you should get rid of the smile, and mabye make it look grumpy... You know elders... -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 13:30, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Grumpy enough? There is something about the back which bothers me. Anyone else feel the same way? Tell me if you can think of what it is. I've only been a user on here for a few weeks, and I noticed that Kitsu hasn't been on since late November last year. Does anyone know where she is? she seem's like the authority on this project from what i've heard. Dawnfeather 23:08, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Kitsu's been very busy lately, so she hasn't been on a lot. I don't see a problem with the back, could you explain it to me? -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 13:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, but the short haired ones' backs seems too flat or something. Dawnfeather 21:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

i see what you mean about the backs. Maybe try making a SMALL dip in the center, to give it the look of a wither/shoulder and a rump/hindquarter. Flam efeat her 18:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Thanks, I think they look better, but is it too extreme now? Dawnfeather 05:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I think they look excellent! But the ear on in front looks round on top... not to be fickle... ::Applestar4904 16:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

These look pretty good. One thing did jump out though: the outline on the bottom edge of all the tails and under their chins is blurry - is this intentional? They definitely look grumpy to me! There is also something about the ears...I can't put my finger on it exactly. I think it maybe that the back of the head seems to stick out quite a lot and it looks a bit un-natural...I dunno. Perhaps that's just me. Good work though! --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I made the neck thinner, changed the ear, and made the outline darker. Is it better? Applestar, I love the name! It's a pity we find nothing more about Applekit in the books after Starlight. (Sorry, a bit off topic! But while im at it, can someone help me make a sig? I don't know how to do all that HTML stuff...) Dawnfeather  08:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

It Looks Great! And thanks, lol ..::Applestar4904 14:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Has anyone got anymore suggestions? Come on, I know it's not perfect yet! Dawnfeather 22:40, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I know I'm not an official member yet, (at least I don't think I am) but the head seems a bit to big to me. (I should talk though, I'm terrible at drawing cats! =p)--<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Merlock the Wizard <font color="Black" style="background:Red">Lets talk  16:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Thanks, I appreciate the consructive critism. I only changed the short hairs co they were ridiculously out of porportion. I'm not sure whether or not to change the long hairs as well. ???? THey look better, but still a bit odd. Dawnfeather 06:31, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I think that the longhair's heads look just fine. In fact, I think they're good enough to use, but I'm not really a member yet, so I can't make that decision. XP I'm sure they'll be used though. --<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Merlock the Wizard <font color="Black" style="background:Red">Lets talk  21:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

The lines from mid-neck to mid-back need evening out. Darkhallows 21:32, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

???? Sorry, Darkhallows, but what? Can you explain in further detail what you mean please? ???? Thanks Merlock! I hope you're right, but if you are, it'll be in a while. I'ld be the first cat to admit that these need a lot of work, especially the short-haired ones. I'm a perfectionist, but they look weird! <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 10:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, firstly the heads of the longhaired ones are now way bigger than the shorthaired which looks strange. Secondly, they look like they ahve really fat forelegs (closest one) especially the shorthaired... Also, is there any way to further distinguish between male and female other than the eyes? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

How to tell them apart; On the long hairs, the female's fur is a little bit neater, and on the short hairs the female has a smaller line defining the shape of the chest. On both of them the front paws are slightly slimmer and there is that thing with the eyes. I don't have enough time right now to work on these, I'm going away over easter, and then im going away with my family, but I think we'll still stay at a place with internet, 'cos my brother is in his final year of school and he has a few essays to write over the holidays! I'll try and do that stuff before then tho. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. Now you've pointed it out I can see there are a lot of differences! Sorry I was being unobservant! --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 11:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

That's okay! I didn't really want to make them too obvious, but do you think they should be? <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 12:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I re-adjusted the head and body porportions, and I think they look better, but they are still a bit weird. Any thoughts? I'll get around to the paws a little bit later, I haven't got time right now. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 02:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I am going away for a week and a half from today, just so everybody knows. Dawnfeather 23:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! What I mean is, the lines from top of the head to the back of the neck aren't as smooth as the others (I'm assuming that's where you edited them). --<font color="black" style="background:blue">DarkHallows <font color="red" style="background:Black">Lair 06:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I've just noticed that the lineart on the shorthairs is all fuzzy around the head area--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 12:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I know. I'm struggling to fix them, but my efforts are so bad so far that I haven't yet posted any of them. The short haired ones look so bad, I think I'll just fix up the longhaired, and then edit those into shorthairs, using my current shorthairs as a guide. -- Dawnfeather 07:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

May I join?
Hey, I'm kinda new to Warriors Wikia, but I love to do character art, and would love to help with Project Character art! ::Applestar4904 16:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Me too! Mistylava

Yeah, I'd love to offically join, but I doubt anything will be done about it until Kitsu has enough time on her hands to spend more time on here. For the moment, I'm just gonna work on my pictures really hard, like an apprentice training to be a warrior, until I (hopefully) become a warrior on this project. Dawnfeather 10:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

You can both join. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Sedgekit- For Approval
Had some free time, drew Sedgekit, feel free to judge it's bad T.T ..::Applestar4904 17:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Can it be zoomed in more? I can't tell anything about it (Other than the colour, sort of) when it's so small! Looks good though, i think Dawnfeather  05:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather, what do you mean "Zoom it in"? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Make it bigger? Dawnfeather 11:55, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

This is te size of the lineart though... Applestar4904 12:00, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Really? That's strange. Maybe make it larger using GIMP. Dawnfeather 22:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, no. Don't worry about it. They just come out this small. Try putting more shading into the gray areas. Also put a little tiny bit of shading in the white areas. So cute! Dawnfeather  22:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I would also suggest stronger shading. Darkhallows 21:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Limit Yourselves...
Okay, I recall Kitsu saying that we need to limit ourselves to, like, one cat. Please listen to her; this page is getting way to crowded. Withdraw the cats you aren't working on, and limit yourselves. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:28, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok! We also need to approve some and that should clear some room --Applestar4904 15:33, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

We can't approve them, though. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:22, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, well who can? I want to put up my Ashfur, but I want to wait until my Sedgekit gets approved --Applestar4904 16:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Only Kitsu can until she decides on who can be the next leader. And I agree even I said this a while back try limiting yourselves, but it seems no one shall listen and this place is getting way too crowded. Can we just stick to one picture now? I remember Kitsu taking down ones that no one worked on after weeks or even months. If we could do it, I think we should atleast start there cause there are tons that are still that way.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree. There area large number of images that people haven't worked on even after comments have been made. If these were removed from the page along with those that have already been withdrawn then this would help a little. Is there any way that someone other than Kitsu can remove the withdrawn images or those that have not been worked on (and are unlikely to be even close to approval in their current state) from the page to allow those that are either waiting for Kitsu or are close to approval or are being worked on regularly to be commented on and improved? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 09:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I think you just go to the 'Edit' page of an article, and then erase the entire contents or the article. That's what I did for my atrocious Hollyleaf. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest - I am of the Dawn's Radiance 06:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll have to talk to Eu, but you aren't supposed to remove stuff; you're supposed to archive stuff. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I've got no idea then. <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray" style="border2px solid; moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:"Orange"> Dawnfeather  <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> I am of the Forest <font color="Orange" style="background:Gray" style="border1px solid; moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:"Orange"> I am of the Dawn's Radience  03:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I feel bad about having two now! I'm sorry... I think... maybe we should ask Eu to move some of the haven't-been-worked-on-in-months images. Or at least ask if we can. --Darkhallows 04:44, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I withdrew my two to start on blanks! -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 14:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Since GB can decline+approve now, Eu's deleted some of the declined ones, and I archived those. I have Cinderheart ready, but I'll wait until more get declined+approved. -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 22:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Hold On!
Okay, Mallinois, why did you upload more blanks? Grr... I would like to ask that we stop putting up stuff for awhile until a lot of these images are withdrawn, approved, or declined. So please, please don't put anything under this section. If you have any comments regarding this, post them in "Limit Yourselves...". Thanks. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)


 * didn't you look? I withdrew my other two. Do I have to wait for those to be deleted+archived? -- Mallinois Fluffy Power 13:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Join?
Can i join? --brambleberry 11:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)Brambleberry

You certainly can. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, i'm not good or anything but it's for practice i guess brambleberry 16:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)Brambleberry

How about me? I'm on here nearly everyday. Dawnfeather 23:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather - GB's already approved your join request further up on the page 8D --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 12:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Hollyleaf-For Approval



 * I think I can put up another cat, since I'm not working on any, and the page is down from 54 sections to 36, so it's less crowded. This is my only pixel up right now, so It has some concentrated work into it. Critisism accepted greatly. -- Mallinois Dog Lingo 22:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

It's beautiful! --brambleberry 16:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)Brambleberry

It is good but perhaps you could increase the shading on the belly and forelegs as it's not immediately obvious there is any at all-<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

The pink on the ear only covers half the ear, and there needs to be some extra shading behind the shoulders. 1000 million trillion times better than my attempt though! Dawnfeather 11:47, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Eaglekit - For Approval


I colored Eaglekit of Windclan because i wanted to do SOMETHING. it's my first not junky one. --brambleberry 16:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)Brambleberry


 * Okay. Firstly the ears need some pink in them but be careful not to make it too bright and stand-out-ish. Then you need to work on adding some shading into the image to make it look more 3D and realistic. Around the head, chin, legs and sides would help. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:27, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Nose is too pink, ears aren't pink, no shading. It can be difficult, but find a pink for the ears and nose that is bright enough to be at least pink-ish, but not so bright that it stands out or looks un-natural. Welcome to Charart! Dawnfeather  11:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Tumblekit - For approval
i colored Tumblekit of Riverclan. Feel free to say how bad it is. brambleberry 16:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)Brambleberry

Firstly, the ears and nose are waay too bright and are making the image very unnatural. Secondly you need to add shading as with your Eaglekit image. Make sure it's blended thoroughly. Also - something about the colours you've chosen is strange to me...I think it might look better is the cat was a lighter colour and the tabby stripes slightly darker than the rest of the fur. There also needs to be stripes on the whole body not just the sides--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Isnt he a tabby, and a plump face? This isn't very good....- A PERSON.

"A PERSON" (Your IP address can be viwed by the way) that was an incredibly rude comment to make to anyone, especially to someone who is new to charart. Him having a plump face is not really something that can be put across in the image as we're not allowed to change the lineart as such. As for the tabby stripes, he does need them but you didn't have to be rude. --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 12:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Bumblekit - For approval
Bumblekit of Thunderclan. brambleberry 17:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)Brambleberry

Shading again and the ear pink needs adding--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 17:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Shading, much more realistic tabby markings, and ear colour all need to be done. Dawnfeather 10:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Blossomkit - For Approval
I took a stab at a tortoiseshell. The white spots aren't that good, though. -- Gοlδεn pαω 23:54, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Try to add a little more order to the patches. They all overlap and clash. Google tortoiseshell and see how some real ones look. Right now it just looks like she got splattered with paint(no offense, it's a cute vision in my mind ;) -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I own a tortie, and not a bit of her color is organized.=/ -- Gοlδεn pαω 02:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Bramble, I think the patches are fine. You don't want to organize the patches. That just makes the cat look...staged. Goldenpaw, if you could brighten the ears a little bit, this would actually be ready for approval. Nice job :). <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 04:05, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks messy. Not like you were discussing earlier, like how it is organised. I think that there are too many different shades of ginger, and the tranitions between colours are just smudged everywhere. Most of the body is covered in randomness (which i don't mind) and then on top of the head it is all dark. Also, I think there needs to be tabby markings in the ginger bits, from looking at my cats. Torties aer just ginger tabbys with black splattered iver them, and then sometimes white too. I can't remember, because this has taken me a few minutes to write, but I don't think there was much shading either. Dawnfeather 04:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Edited. Though, I think the colors I choose for the orange and cream seem a bit unnatural. I think I should change it later.=/ -- Gοlδεn pαω 04:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, this is very nice. Excellent job, Goldenpaw! Any more comments before approval? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 04:52, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the contrast is too high between the greys and the other colours. Maybe a brownish colour for the body? -FaRReR

Also, it doesn't look very 3-D, especially around the boundary between the neck and the head.

You added a bit of shading on the back, but the change between that and the lighter black is too sudden. Blend it some more. The needs to be more shading - on the other side. The oranges are still too bright and unnatural, and maybe use less different ones, just the one orange/ginger. Then put tabby markings on them. Dawnfeather 05:00, 2 May 2009 (UTC) I disagree, GB.

The only thing I see wrong with this is the small smudges that are out of the lines. Fix those, and this is ready. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Hate to break it to you, but i just did a bit of research. Shadowclan blossomkit it white, and thunderclan blossomkit is a brown tabby with a dark stripe down her back. Neither are tortie. Dawnfeather 05:19, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather's right. FaRReR 05:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Dawnfeather was trying to post that for 15 minutes. She is really really angry. Whatever you are doing, keep it up ;) -Devestatorie, Older brother of Dawnfeather.

I guess you wouldn't mind if I smashed in this computer. You always hog the laptop. XP Dawnfeather  05:39, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Changed the ginger a bit. And the brown tabby thing is a mess-up. When she was born in Eclipse, she was tortoiseshell-and-white. -- Gοlδεn pαω 06:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

but offically she is a brown tabby with a dark stripe down her back.. Dawnfeather 06:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Did they forget why they named her Blossomkit in the first place?=/ -- Gοlδεn pαω 06:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

yeah, it seems so. But still, offically shes brown. Maybe we should wait for GB to use his authority to make a decision. In my opinion, she should be done brown, but if you continue to do her tortie, i would suggest following these steps;

1)colour a kitten a ginger pattern that you are happy with. If you feel like it, add tabby

2) add the (large) splashes of black

3) add the white 'petals' that Millie described.

don't forget the ears, eyes, nose, ec. Dawnfeather 06:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC)