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Senior Warrior Lead Votes
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Due to recent senior warrior nominations, several users and I, including Icestorm, Feathermoon, Frostheart, Mossy, and Helix, discussed why lead votes are much more significant in senior warrior nominations? It really is unjustifiable. A Wiki is about team work. Senior warriors work with everyone, not just leads. Yet, normal warriors have no say. Why should they even have the option to comment if their vote doesn't matter? It won't change the opinions of the leads. It really is an unjustifiable policy. A Wiki is a community effort. No two users who may happen to have different positions are no different in importance. Everyone one's opinion matters. Why should one user not have the same voice as another? Why should background matter?

Regardless of your opinion, please, please post it here. If we get enough supports, we must put it to an official vote. Even if you completely oppose of this idea, please, please, comment. Your opinion matters, from leader to kit, we all matter. 20:51, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This Wiki is a community. Not where ranks are separated into groups, and ranked higher just because they have a few more benefits and privileges and a special name. They should be ranked equal, and all I see that should matter is that there is more approving votes than opposing in order to become senior warrior. So, in general, I agree with you, Moonflight. I see no point just for senior warriors to be ranked higher. However, what about deputy and leader? Would they be necessarily ranked under senior warrior? -- 14:44, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. If, say, there was a vote where most of the warriors supported but the leads were against right now, it would go down as the nominee losing the vote, even though the majority voted. As Icestorm said, there should be equality - every person's vote is important, every vote counts. So long as the majority agrees that the person in question should become a senior warrior, they should. •Maple fern•  23:41, April 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I do agree with you but warriors who have been bumped up to senior warriors got there for a reason. They have more experience than those who are underneath them. Yes, the wiki is part of the community, but many people including us, even if we don't know it, draw from a sense of power and higher ranks are part of that sense of leadership and power. At el  da  22:06, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

This is not about the power of senior warriors. This is about weither or not leads should have more power when it comes to votes about senior warrior nominations. 22:07, April 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I mean, sure, we're not as experienced, but we're a part of WW, and we still count. It would also expand the votes, to make it more fair. We should have a say in what goes on here.

Leafstar ~ Gold Nomination
This is currently the feature article. Comments? 02:47, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure she appears more than said in Firestar's Quest. 21:05, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I added in a little history, but there might be more. 23:34, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Didn't she participate in the battle against the rats? 22:26, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll add that in, but I don't have the book right now. 22:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Woot! :P I added 7 paragraphs. It should be ready now. XD 23:20, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

For the one piece of trivia, should there be a source? Otherwise I'm supporting. It looks great! At el  da  23:29, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm just going to delete it, since it was added only today, and I don't think it has been confirmed. 23:35, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. Forgot this: Comments? xD 23:38, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

It's definitely almost ready. Could you try to combine the small little paragraphs you added and/or add smooth transitions? 22:52, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...I'll try. 22:43, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Done. Comments? 23:19, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely, Mistystar. Comments before vote? 22:49, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm allowed to put up my own voteXD Vote is up! 21:51, May 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * You can. Don't worry. I do. x3

Mistkit (TC) ~ Silver Nomination
Okay, since my other nomination is technically over, since the vote has been up for 7 days and it was only supposed to be up for 5, I'm putting this one up. 21:57, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

A lead probably didn't get a chance to archive it. Someone'll take care of it shortly. xD And this looks good, and long for a character that only appears once or twice in two books. -- Cloud skye  18:41, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Is there anything I need to add? 23:39, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the family citations are missing in the cousin section. 22:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I hadn't noticed XD Added. 22:40, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I added a quote, too. Anything else? 23:09, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Try to group reference the citations. By that, I mean use one of two options:

Okay, grouped citations. Comments? 22:44, May 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Use.
 * Use . Then, for every citation that is the same, type, .  22:57, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Is there anything else anyone says about her (since she doesn't speak). If not, it looks great. 19:57, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Snowy - Silver Nomination
I added some quotes and expanded SkyClan's Destiny a little. I couldn't find a main quote and I don't have Firestar's Quest. So if it needs expanding, can someone else help me with that? xD 16:26, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest using one of the quotes as the main quote, but you don't have to. I don't have the books with me currently, so unfortunately, I can't help you with that. 20:29, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I added one of her quotes as a main quote. I might be able to get a hold of a copy of Firestar's Quest, but I'm not entirely sure I will be able to. 20:57, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Barley ~ Silver Nomination
Yay! My first one! I was looking through, and it seems it's really good. I'm going to take care of The Heart of a Warrior's section when I get home - as I don't have the book at hand. Comments, anyone? -- Cloud skye  18:43, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can Forest of Secrets and Dawn be expanded? 20:36, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

And I think The Darkest Hour could be expanded too, Shattered Peace, and A Clan in Need seem like their unfinished. So possibly finish it or make it sound more like it's the end of the section. At el  da  04:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so... I'm expanding Forest of Secrets, Dawn, The Darkest Hour and the Ravenpaw Trilogy series. Wow. That's a lot. But, I'll get right on it. Sorry for not working on this. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:34, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Rockshade - Silver Nomination
I expanded SkyClan's Destiny a ton and gave him some quotes. I think he looks good. Comments? 21:32, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! If possible, expand Firestar's Quest and add another quote, otherwise, supporting. 21:34, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well I don't have Firestar's Quest, but I'll see what I can do. xD I'll try and find another quote as well. 15:12, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I added another quote and expanded Firestar's as much as I could with information from those little excerpts from the Browse Inside. (And my memory) 20:57, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Quince~Silver nomination
Her page looks good. Comments? ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 12:55, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

She needs a main quote and some other quotes. Can The Rise of Scourge be expanded? 21:39, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? Its been 13 days. 20:45, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Toadfoot~Silver nomination
Okay, I'm not sure if you have to be a member of this project to nominate, but I think Toadfoot's articke is ready. Comments? 22:19, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but you have to be part of PC to nominate, but you can easily join. Add in history for SOTM and add more quotes. 03:11, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

I see a few problems with the article. In The Fourth Apprentice, some of it is very detailed while some of it is like, "Toadfoot halted - next sentence = They continued with the battle stragety." You should choose which one it will go by, and go with it. Second, the entire history should be looked over and expanded thoroughly. -- 20:32, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Petalfur ~ Silver Nomination
Her history looks good and I added some quotes, so comments? At el  da  02:18, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

The quote section should be under the family tree, and make sure to use the quote templates when doing them. 22:20, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the reminder, and done! Comments? At el  da  03:11, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible to expand The Fourth Apprentice? If not, supporting. 23:08, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ok it's expanded. At el  da  21:17, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Comments? At el  da  02:22, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Can Sunrise be expanded a bit? I don't know, but supporting. 23:20, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ok so I expanded Sunrise just a little by rephrasing a sentence that wasn't clear. Other than that I looked through the book and she is not mentioned other than that time.

Comments? At el  da  03:39, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can Fading Echoes be expanded any? Also, what about Sign of the Moon? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:39, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

So I expanded Fading Echoes a bit, and looked throughout Sign of the Moon. I added a little to the SOTM section and she is not mentioned again. At el  da  01:39, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

CBV? 16:30, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Petalnose ~ Silver Nomination
I added a few quotes, and expanded both sections, so comments? At el  da  23:39, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Why are there two quote sections? There should only be one, and make sure you're using the quote template for all of them. The history looks good, but the paragraphing format is wrong, so I'll fix that. 21:56, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks and I fixed the quotes along with the two sections. At el  da  22:38, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

If possible, find one more quote, and can SkyClan's Destiny be expanded? If not, supporting. :D 23:02, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

So I expanded SkyClan's Destiny and added two more quotes.

Comments? At el  da  03:15, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me :D 21:58, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the quotes don't have the right format, so try and fix that, please. Looks great otherwise. ^^ 20:09, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ok they're fixed! At el  da  01:40, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Nightkit~Silver Nomination
Comments? 01:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible to add another quote? Otherwise looks good. At el  da  03:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

She doesn't say anything, so I think its fine... 21:51, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Well, there aren't any quotes to begin with, but see if you can find something about them being very ill. 22:33, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

I can't find anything about Nightkit. 03:36, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure? Because I think her and her sister were both mentioned as being sick. Doesn't any other cat say somthing about that in the book? 19:47, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I found a quote, and since I'm going to add it to Mistkit, I'll add it to this one as well. XD 22:21, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Added. :D 22:50, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Pounce ~ Silver Nomination
His page looks good to me. Comments? 22:59, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Can you find another quote for him? 14:34, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, besides the main quote, it only has 1 quote, so if possible, add 2 or more XD 21:54, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I looked for the comments on all three books, but I couldn't find any except for the two other quotes that are already on his page. Anything else? 10:26, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think it looks good; the history is fine, and if thats all he ever says, then I think its ready. CBV? 20:42, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is up. -- 16:32, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reedfeather ~ Silver Nomination
I added some quotes for him, including a main quote. Comments? ✿ Dreamwhisper ✿ April Showers Bring May Flowers! 09:23, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Can Battles of the Clans be expanded anymore? 14:33, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Can Bluestar's Prophecy be expanded a bit? 23:22, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I expanded both of them a bit, but I don't know if it's enough. ✿ Dreamwhisper ✿ April Showers Bring May Flowers! 11:08, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ravenpaw ~ Silver Nomination
His article looks great to me. Comments? 00:28, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can the last two trivia statements be cited? Also, can Shattered Peace, Fire and Ice, Midnight and Dawn be expanded? -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:37, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can Battles of the Clans be expanded, as well as A Dangerous Path? 21:49, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I fixed up Shattered Peace, but I don't own Midnight, Dawn or a Dangerous Path, but I'll do the best I can from memory. :P 11:21, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I can help, if I have the time. =P 11:29, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darkstar (SC) ~ Silver Nomination
His article looks complete to me. Comments? 10:29, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can Battles of the Clans be expanded? If possible, also add one or two more quotes. 20:56, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

I can add more quotes, but I don't think Battle of the Clans can be expanded. I'll see what I can do. 04:22, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I added more quotes. I can't think of anything to add into the Battle of the Clans section. 23:19, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

You could possibly expand on some of the points they bring up when argueing about the disputed territory, Also, the first paragraph to the section is a long sentence. It would help the clarity of the article if you could break up the sentence a little bit. Otherwise it looks great! At el  da  03:02, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Atelda! :D

I have an idea
Sorry if somebody has already brought up this topic and people didn't agree, but I think it would be worthy to add to the character's articles. Wouldn't it be a good idea to include (approx) how many moons old the character is? It's tedious to go to the timeline and try to figure it out, but if we went ahead and figured it out, it could provide more information on the character. Of course, it would be impossible to do it for every cat, as we simply cannot know how many moons old they are for one reason or another (like Tribe cats). But also, we wouldn't put how many moons old if they're dead, only the age they were when they died.

If they're dead, we could also possibly have how many moons it has been since they've passed away? What do you guys think? :) 16:40, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, its a good idea, but we don't know the ages or even approximate ages of many of the minor and semi-minor characters, and it wouldn't really make sense to only put the ages on a few of them... 23:12, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

There are only a few characters that would be available to put on it. It's really not essential to the article, either. It just creates more work. 21:34, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see the logic in what you guys are saying. Now that I think about it, if we knew a LOT more ages, then maybe we could, but for now it's not a good idea. Thanks for the input :) 22:41, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Brightsky
Can people quit adding the delete template to her article? She is a warrior of RiverClan, believe it or not. I've checked the paperback browse inside on HarperCollins' branch website, HarperTeens, and there is a Brightsky matching the description on her page. I'm sticking this here because she is a character, after all. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:39, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, I undid one of those edits, but they are continuosly being added. Before SOTM was released, the characters already had articles. 21:47, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Characters in unreleased books
Shouldn't there be a template on a character page for a book that has yet to be released, just like there's one for unreleased books? 16:46, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Don't you mean for a character that has yet to be released? lol. But, I knew what you mean, and I agree with you. I've seen enough edits to character articles that have not been release yet. I think the only things we are allowed to put up are the name, character box and description. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 16:48, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well...those that are putting delete tags are right; see Spoilers. Character articles like those can only be created when the official browse inside is released. 16:32, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Joining
Can I join please? XXXSpecklestreamXXX 08:50, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I'll add you in now. Take a look at our FAQ if you have any questions. 14:57, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Leaving
Herroz. I've been really busy with High School, as you can see from my lame editcount. xD And in all, I haven't really been interested in the Wiki in the past few weeks. I had great fun here, but it's time for me to go. Bye everyone :] 00:16, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I could tell you've been less dedicated to the Wiki lately. I've had a feeling it would come to this. I'll remove you. Good luck in life, Frostheart. You'll be missed. 16:59, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Misha ~ Silver Nomination
Ok so i've added quotes along with a main one and I expanded her article. Comments? At el  da  03:52, May 15, 2011 (UTC)