Warriors Wiki talk:Charart



Whitewing (Q)- For Approval
--My first charart. I did the best I could. Comments =) Darkmoon25'

She is completely white. Don't worry, when I started making charart, I would be that with white cats too. You need to make it a light gray, because if it's totally white, then shading won't work. Do you know how to shade? Because if not I could teach you.-- ♥Halloweenclaw 13:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

ReuplodedDarkmoon25'

There's a few blurry sections of Lineart, and the shading should probably be thickened a bit. I can't see anything. XD (But that might be just me) The ear pink should be blurred out, and in a triangle shape. But don't worry, it's pretty good for your first charart! :) Just a suggestion; If you already know this, i'm very, very sorry. But you should go to http://pixlr.com/editor and use that. Using that program you can use the blur tool to blur shading and ear pink (Be careful not to go over lineart, and if you do, just open up paint and go over the black lines with the pencil tool) and you can use the 'Burn' tool to darken parts, etc. Once again, I'm very sorry if you already knew about pixlr. =)  Shistar BOO! 15:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura covered it all.-- *Minn owc law*  15:17, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

On the one cheek and behind the ear, it is lighter than the other spots. --Mosspath  of Skyclan 15:29, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

For shading, use the burn tool. (if you already know this, ignore me), and run it over the back, hind leg, and other places that have shading. --Rainwhisker 09 19:25, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

ReuplodedDarkmoon25'

Okay, the lines that were blurred are a bit too thick now. And there still isn't any shading. XD (I checked. XP) There should be a few white pixels in the eye, (Look at Ferncloud's eye to see how it should look) And the ear pink should still be more triangular and blurred along the outside. =)  Shistar Mai Talk Page! =) 17:22, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

There are only still some white parts near her face and her ear.-- *Minn owc law*  23:13, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

ReuplodedDarkmoon25'

(S) - Maybe it's me, but the eye looks turquoise. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

hmm... my main problem is that you've now made her so far off-white that she looks pale grey... =/ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:40, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading darker also, and blur the ear pink slightly as it looks like it is now painted on. (ps. please sign with ~ so we can see the timestamp, thanks) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, pretty much what Sandy said. Also, to make her less pale gray, use the dodge tool at about size 70, and the brush that gets lighter out. (Please disregard if you knew this.)-- Mossy SC  22:33, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

re uploaded. I lightened her and darkened the shading. also changed eye color. finally i Blurred the ear pink. please approve this! Darkmoon25

I don't know, she still looks pale gray to me--Nightfall101 23:40, November 10, 2009 (UTC) I dont see anywhere she is pale grey. Except for the shading.Darkmoon25

(S) - I can tell you changed the eye, but maybe make it a darker green, like on her warrior image. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:18, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

ReuplodedDarkmoon25

I have a few things and although I don't often do them, I've drawn you a diagram (yay!) to help show you what I mean.

Okay: the red circle shows where I don't think you need the shading as it wouldn't go around the whole lineart of the tail. The purple shows where you need to add shading, the blue shows where the lieart is blurred. You also need to blur all the shading into the pelt as it's quite messy. The background needs to be made transparent and the ear pink is too bright (I put a patch of the colour I would recommend next to the ear although there are other colours that can be used on white cats and look good) Hope this helps =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:16, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

ReuplodedDarkmoon25

Darken the belly shading more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:46, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 Darkened the belly shading

Almost there. Just blend the shading and make the ear pink more triangular and she'll be ready, I think. [Note: you don't have to upload under a new file name each time, just choose a name that's something like: Whitewing.queen.png or Whitewing(Q).png or Whitewing_Q.png and reupload over the old one each time instead of having whitewingqueen2, whitewingqueen3 etc. These extra files just clog up the wiki] Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Ok i will get to that. But I tried to upload files on the old image but my changes are not being shown. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Sometimes it takes a few minutes to change. I find that often mine don't change for a couple of days: I'm not quite sure why but it may be something to do with temporary files stored on your computer, or it may just be the wiki being slow. The best person to ask would be Eu. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:16, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 It showed my changees! Anyways I blended the shading and change the ear pink shape. Is it ready?!=)

(M) - Almost. There's a bit of blurred lineart on the tail, and the shading on the belly looks darker than the rest. Also, the ear pink is too bright and needs blurred more. Fix those things and then she should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:52, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I dont see any blurred lineart but i will work on the other stuff later tonight.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

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Just think the shading on the belly a bit and blur it, and she'll be ready. :) Nice job. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 17:27, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 blurred belly shading.

I think it needs to be blurred a tad more.-- Darkhallows 11:08, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 This has gotta be ready now.

Lightningpelt- For approval
A minor character. Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 00:59, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

The white streak on her back would probably be on the lineart, rather than on the side of the pelt like it is now. Otherwise, great job, Hawkfire! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:26, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I echo Icethroat, and also make the ear pink more of a fine triangular shape, and less of a bright pink color. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦ <font color="Purple">Contribs 01:49, November 9, 2009 (UTC) Awesome! Um I don't really see anything *goes closer* Nope &#91;&#91;User:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;background:silver; color:goldenrod;&quot;&gt;&#39;&#39;&#39;Icestorm&#39;&#39;&#39;&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;sup&gt;&#91;&#91;User Talk:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;How&#39;s the prey running?&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;/sup&gt; 02:02, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Make sure you make it slightly smaller, as we probably wouldn't be able to see it all. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:04, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made the streak on the back, and worked on her stripes and ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 19:05, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

nice work. but now I can hardley see the streak. maybe make it a bit bigger and longer. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Your tabby stripes seem to be blurred. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:56, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 23:11, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Ok the image still looks good. but I can hardly see the ear pink and the streak looks more like a patch now then a streak. But good job <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

This hasn't been updated in awhile. Please update soon.-- Darkhallows 11:04, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Hawkey Rawr! LOL 19:36, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Snowfur (Q): For approval
Well she died as a queen so here ya go.



Comments? --Bluestar1776 22:23, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Some of the lineart on her ears are blurred a lot, and I can barely see any color on her nose. Also, there definately has to be some shading, and I would maybe blur the gray on the ear that's farthest from us (her left ear), it looks like a circle--Nightfall101 22:27, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - sharpened ears, darkened nose. --Bluestar1776 23:17, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add color to the nose, make the lineart on her hindleg and her front leg that is closest to us black, and lighten the eyes. Also add shading. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened lineart, colored nose. --Bluestar1776 16:03, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Drumroll, please!! *drumroll drumroll drumroll* Thanks, Echo, for showing me how to do the shading! --Bluestar1776 19:21, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I an kind of see that there is shading but you need to darken it slightly. Use the burn tool and rn it over a few times. Then use the blur tool to blend the shding in. Also, the ear pink needs to be more triangular Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:15, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened shading, fixed ear pink. Lol, is it blurry enough for you? Hahaha I'm just kidding it sucks. --Bluestar1776 17:12, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I put up two versions. The second one is a thousand times better, in my opinion. --Bluestar1776 17:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I still can't really see the shading on either version and you've now blurred the lineart... more noticeably on version1. Use the burn tool to darken the shading and then fix the blurred lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:03, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

There's still a lot of blurred lineart, mostly on the forepaws and belly. And you don't need to put the image at the end of the section, because the changes appear above. And don't forget to leave your sig so we know who you are. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:10, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Don't know if it's just my computer, but it looks like her shading turned into spots on top of her spine. don't know if it just me or not. --Honeyrose34 23:35, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

You're right about the shading Honeyrose. Try and brush it up a little, make it straighter and more even. --Nightfall101 03:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - fixed the shading. --Bluestar1776 19:11, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Looking good. But I would lighten the shading on her belly and chest, it looks like it's gray there instead of just shaded--Nightfall101 21:59, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - should I lighten it any more? --Bluestar1776 22:11, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's coming along great! Try and even it out on back though, it still looks a little bumpy--Nightfall101 22:14, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - lightened the shading on the back. --Bluestar1776 22:19, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I have to eat dinner, will work on it more after. --Bluestar1776 22:21, November 17, 2009 (UTC)



The red is where the lineart is blurred, and the blue is where the shading needs to be darkened--Nightfall101 22:58, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I fixed the areas you said to. Better? --Bluestar1776 00:22, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It's getting a lot better! But, all the shading still needs to be both thickened and darkened--Nightfall101 00:27, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened the shading on the back. --Bluestar1776 00:51, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, but it's still hard to see. Thicken the shading on the back and tail, and try straightening it--Nightfall101 00:54, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I don't know what you mean by "thicken", but I did my best. --Bluestar1776 02:09, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Is the gray on the ear tip shading? It looks very sudden. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:48, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

It's not shading, Snowfur is supposed to have gray tipped ears. But the shading really needs some work, it looks bumpy and uneven--Nightfall101 21:15, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - better? --Bluestar1776 23:33, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The shading isn't as bumpy anymore, but it still needs to be evened out--Nightfall101 22:21, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you should get rid of the images that aren't being improved. I'm not really sure which one I should look at.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:20, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - better? --Bluestar1776 14:51, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, the shading looks much better. But there is a spot at the base of the tail that's to dark, lighten it up a little. Also, you seem to have forgotten to put pupils in her eyes --Nightfall101 22:33, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I lightened that, and she does have pupils. --Bluestar1776 00:23, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

She's almost there. Just blur the shading a tad more (be careful not to hit the lineart) and she'll be ready. :) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 17:31, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred shading. Anything else? --Bluestar1776 19:47, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

I hate to keep commenting about this, but I can hardly see the shading anymore--Nightfall101 00:23, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Well Nightfall, I think that may be your imagination. I know because one time you told me to fix the shading. I didn't do ANYTHING and posted "reuploaded" and you said it was much better. I ♥ R a v e n p a w <font color="Silver">Talk

Bluestar, this isn't about catching other users out, it's about getting good quality images for the articles. This project is a team. Teams trust each other and if you said you'd reuploaded then it is assumed you've actually made the changes... I can't see the shading much either so you need to make it darker. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:01, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Well it's just that every time I change it it's to dark, then I change it again and it's too light. Then I don't change it all and it's PERFECT. -- I ♥ R a v e n p a w <font color="Silver">Talk

Reuploaded - Too dark now? -- I ♥ R a v e n p a w <font color="Silver">Talk

(S) - Could you blur the shading a bit more? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 12:50, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred shading. -- I ♥ R a v e n p a w <font color="Silver">Talk

It should be blurred more, I think.-- Darkhallows 11:09, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Logfur-For Approval
This is Logfur. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:46, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the stripes or lighten the pelt because it's hard to see them.-- *Minn owc law*  20:18, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

It might just be me, but the image looks very dark and very red and there seems to be some paler grey/white on the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:25, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

The image is really really dark. The image needs lightened a lot. Try the dodge tool on 100% size 100 or 200, so you get the entire image. Use the tool about three or four times, or maybe six or seven. Until you think it's bright enough, which you'll probably know. Also, the lineart does look gray in some areas. From what I can see of it, though, the tabby stripes look very nice. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:49, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat, it's waaaaay to dark. And I do see the gray lineart. But I really like the stripes!--Nightfall101 05:38, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It did say Dark Brown but it looks like this is to dark :) I will do this ASAP. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 13:28, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Waaaaay to dark, I can barely see the stripes. The shading is good, though. --Bluestar1776 19:04, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've brightened the brown colour, and removed the gray from the outline (replaced with black). Hope that's okay :) - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:00, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Now it looks somewhat reddish rather than dark brown. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:07, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I agree w/ Rainwhisker, maybe make it just plain dark brown, not to bright, not too dark. Do get what i am saying, my friends say that i talk like i'm from a diff country! Anyway, just don't make it too red looking. --Honeyrose34 23:32, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I've made the fur more brown now. Let me know what you think :) - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:23, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It looks redddish brown now. Try changing the color altogether instead of lighting it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 It looks brown to me, so I'd have trouble making it look more brown :). The RGB for it atm is 59-37-16 which is about the right ratio as far as I'm aware. - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:58, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It looks better now, great job Bramble!! ( is okay if i call you that? just checking!) --Honeyrose34 00:23, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Honeyrose, you might not want to call Brambleclaw that because the fantastic leader of this project is a user named Bramble. I was confused and thought that you were mistaken when I saw the post and I think other people with be.-- *Minn owc law*  01:42, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

lol you can all call me Shruggy if you feel like it :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:11, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is a very strange colour. Try looking at some approved cats and choose a different shade. Um... I think Tigerstar is a good example Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:03, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Sandy but if I try it goes brown...:/ Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 19:12, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

hmm....as he's a darkbrown cat I did the ear like a black cats ear. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:11, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, don't worry. Can you just blend it a tiny weeny bit and this should be good for approval. =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:33, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

OK. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 19:42, November 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * Better? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:23, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 17:33, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are layered right over the shading; they're lighter than the pelt, while in the regular pelt area, they're darker. The stripes around the mouth look odd, as well. -- Bramble -san  03:52, November 26, 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh no thats bad it rebooted but I had not saved logfur :/ I will see what I can do :). Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:05, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Cinderfur (D) - For Approval
Technically he died as a deputy, so here ya go. What do you think?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:07, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

He's GGOD!!just add more the shading, and blur the ear pink. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 04:12, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

He needs a little more shading, and possibly highlights. Right now he looks flat.(I shouldnt say that, because the computer screen is flat) Ok, he looks 2-D.-- Shad owed  heart  12:59, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

The eyes don't have a pupil/highlight. --Bluestar1776 15:57, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and the lineart on the hind leg that is furthest from us is blured. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:32, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thickened the shading, blurred the ear pink, and fixed the hind leg. He already has a highlight in his eye. I sort of made a highlight at the top of his head, but I'm having a little trouble with them.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  16:19, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you darkened the shading rather than thickened it. Can you thicken it some more?-- Ashshadow My Clan 21:55, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well I darkened and thickened it, but I'll thicken it some more.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:53, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

You need to add a bit more color to the eye, and add a pupil/highlight. Here's an example: (Don't critcize, I just made this in like 2 minutes and didn't bother with shading.) Anyway, see how his eye has more color? Lol sorry meh image ended up a little higher than yours. --Bluestar1776 22:02, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Er, I can't see the image.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  06:22, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Try using this as a reference on how to do the eye: --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:34, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thickened the shading and fixed the eye.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:05, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, the eye looks goo, but the shading needs blending. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:34, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Ignore me if you want to, but the eyes look kind of red to me. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 12:54, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Whitefang - for approval
Thanks for the list Sandy. So we don't clash, I'm working backwards. GRRRR... I hate white cats, but here he is.-- *Minn owc law*  01:29, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job, Minnow. Just add ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 01:40, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

WOW. I forgot something like that. Fail on me. Better?-- *Minn owc law*  02:53, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I like it a lot Minnow! Whitefang will always remind me of the wolf Whitefang=)--Nightfall101 00:52, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I think it looks great! And White Fang: COOLEST. STORY. EVER!!!!! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:23, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Aside from the Erins', I mean. Still... Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but I hated the movie--Nightfall101 16:25, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

There's a movie? I did not know that. Anyway, back to the image: the shading could be thickened more. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:21, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and I think the shading on the throat should maybe be stretched up all the way to right below the chin. Oh and Rainwhisker, don't watch the movie. it's terrible--Nightfall101 22:28, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not going to thicken the shading more unless more people tell me too because when I did, it looked really bad.-- *Minn owc law*  00:58, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Oh that's fine! It was just a suggestion=)--Nightfall101 01:33, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I just pretended the mozie was based on another story, so I survived it. I like this, though. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:33, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I have one small thing (I know it's picky, I'm sorry); the eye looks kind of lifeless... I know you have the pupil nd highlight in, but perhaps use different shades of blue to give it some, well, life. =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:39, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Daisyheart-- For Approval!
Here's my 1st, well...2nd. Besides that here's Daisyheart. Not fond of the name but thought she would be easy for me. Comments? Concerns? --Honeyrose34 00:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is a huge improvement! I would maybe thicken the shading a little more, and there's a line of white running through her whiskers where it should be ginger. Also, there is a lot of blurred lineart--Nightfall101 00:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Good job Honeyrose. I think you used the thumbnail version instead of the full size for the blank. Can you make it bigger?-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:29, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, i honestly don't know how, i didn't even realize till you said that. I just uploaded it up and it just did that. Please tell me how!! --Honeyrose34 00:31, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else, still don't know about picture size...--Honeyrose34 00:35, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

There's still some blurred lineart, and I can a spot that needs to be blurred right around the base of the tail--Nightfall101 00:41, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Okay how to make the Charart bigger (sorry you have to re-do it) You click on the blank on the PCA Project page. Then it will bring you to a page. You click on the blank again (left click) press "save picture as" then do what you nomarlly do. (Does this spund confusing?) I hope this helped you! <font color="#0000ff" style="background:Lime">Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 00:47, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Icestorm-- i DO do that. I didn't have a problem with Whiskerpaw before. See him in the #25 declined at the bottom. You'll see what i mean.

Nightfall-- i don't know what you mean about the tail need to be blurred thing. Could you maybe upload my Daisyheart and then circle it or something, i don't understand.

Okay, any MORE comments!? --Honeyrose34 00:52, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I can post the full sized blank to your talk page if it would help.-- Ashshadow My Clan 01:01, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

That would be great. You know, this is the 2nd time you offered to save my butt. I thank you SO much. Do any of my real friends at school help? No, they don't like Warriors, only Twilight. Exept for one kid. I don't know what she like's to read. Back to the real world, thanks Ashshadow!!! --Honeyrose34 01:08, November 21, 2009 (UTC)



The red shows where the lineart is blurred--Nightfall101 01:22, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I managed to make it large for you, I did have to redo the eye, because the resizing killed it. I hope you don't mind.-- Darkhallows 11:39, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Shady: How on earth did you resize it without blurring it? I have longed to know how to do that. Honeyrose: The shading needs to be thicker and needs to be on the white as well as the ginger areas - try making your white slightly off-white so shading will show up. Also, blend your shading. The ear pink needs to be a central smallish triangle of a rosy/salmon pink colour ad blurred. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:19, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

The edges were a little blurred, so I just made it a little bigger then the lineart and erased them. If that makes any sense.-- Darkhallows 11:52, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

!!!!!!!! I'm so excited! Thanks SO SO SO much! This helped me a WHOLE lot better, Shady. I'll fix the blurred spots Sandy and Nightfall. I know, i wasn't able to reply yesterday, but i went to see New Moon. It was really got but long because we had a half hour of credits to wait for more and more people to come in. Man, it took a long time but it was totally worth it!!! --Honeyrose34 15:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I was just editing her when i saw that i didn't blur the line art, the line art black just messed up the ginger when i was bluring. I'm right now trying to fix it. Sorry 'bout that kind of confusion! --Honeyrose34 15:43, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Forget my last comment, i almost forgot that Shady redid it for me. Man, i'm really dumb........... Sorry again. I'm on a roll w/ these 'sorrys'! --Honeyrose34 15:46, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded -the new image is at the top. i just darkened the shading a tad. Any more comments? --Honeyrose34 16:02, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Still needs more shading. Then she should be good.-- Darkhallows 23:37, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- Don't know if the shading that's new showed up or not so i'll redo it if i need to. any other comments besides that??? --Honeyrose34 21:20, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Comments, anyone? I need to get at least another comment! --Honeyrose34 22:36, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I can't really see the ear pink, so darken it, and blur the ear pink. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 13:29, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the patches a bit more and darken the shading. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 17:37, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-- Didn't do ear pink but wanted to see your opinion of the shading before i do do it. I think it's too dark now, but that's for you guys to decide! Comments?? --Honeyrose34 21:10, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yep, the shading's too dark, and is really messy. Look here to see how to do the shading. (For the white part of the fur, put the burn tool on highlights at about 12 percent opacity.) I hope this helps! --  Icy -chan  23:06, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Icethroat, I don't know what you mean about the white fur shading, and I don't have highlights anyway. The shading tips on your page weren't that helpful 'cause I already did that but the white was just the problem. Could you or somebody else explain to me what you meant about the ' 12 percent thing. --Honeyrose34 16:21, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

If you're using pixlr or another similar editing programme you need to choose the burn tool and choose a size of around 15. What Icethroat is saying is that you need to select 'highlights' which is a type of burn tool and change the opacity to 12. If you're using pixlr this will all be at the top of the screen once you've selected the burn tool. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:11, November 26, 2009 (UTC) D

Do what Sandy said. And sorry I put another Daisyheart up for approval D:! I didn't even see yours up for approval. I promise it won't happen again. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 17:56, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

That's okay, Sandwich!! Everybody makes mistakes! Maybe you just didn't see it reserved, 'cause I'm WAY at the bottom since I'm new!! --Honeyrose34 15:28, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Now blur the shading. (I feel bad for saying that so much.)-- Darkhallows 11:12, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfoot- For Approval
Here she is! Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 02:31, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I like it! But I think I can see some red on her shoulder, belly, and hindleg--Nightfall101 02:39, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

And the right eye looks kinda....creepy--Nightfall101 04:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I like it too :). All I can see is, that the pink in the ears probably needs to be blend a little. --<span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly!

Nightfall, she's looking to one side, like she's looking over her shoulder. But I admit, it kind of makes it look creepy-like. Anyway, the ear pink could be shifted to the left more (our left) and the highlights + shading needs to be blurred more. Plus, the eye should have more than one shade of color in it. Otherwise, she's great! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:23, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I changed the title so it's spelled right, hope you don't mind. I love the cat by the way. Maybe just make the eyes a little less creepy. * shudders * --Honeyrose34 16:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed the eyes and blended the shading and highlights the best I could. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 23:04, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

She's awesome! I don't really see anything wrong or could it just be my eyes? I think I'm blind. Great job! <font color="#0000ff" style="background:Lime">Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 02:36, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I like this! Just like everybody else has said. Man, what is with all these cliches I'm using? I almost used "We need to talk" in a fanfiction I'm writing! Somebody help! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:41, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

I have a couple of small things, I'm afraid. The eye still looks a little odd, scary almost. Look at Willowpelt and Brightheart and copy the eye from those. The ear pink needs to be blended and there is a small piece of lineart on the shoulder that looks unusualy thick as if it's been blurred slightly then corrected. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:42, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Snaketooth - For Approval
My first one!!!! Criticism WANTED!!!!! I'm trying to learn as much as I can to improve him. . . comments?--Mousetalon 18:36, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

This is actually pretty good for a first attempt =) I have a few things to mention though: 1)He is described as a dark brown tabby - could you make his fur colour a little darker? Something like the colour of Tigerstar, Voletooth or Toadfoot. 2) The tabby stripes are good, but there are a couple that look a little odd such as near the base of his tail - just tweak it to make it more of a natural shape. 3) This needs shading, or more shading. There are a few different styles so have a look at some approved pixels for inspiration! The main different styles are: Mousefang, White-eye and Runningwind. 4) The ear pink needs to be smaller and more of a rosy colour. See Brightheart. 5) The highlights need to be a little bigger and blended a lot more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC) '''

Reuploaded''' Darkened him A LOT. Can't see the tabby stripes too well, but I think it's better. Shaded as well and fixed the ear.--Mousetalon 23:46, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I know, I just did, but I wanted better highlights and tabby stripes.--Mousetalon 23:56, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

The front of him is really blurry.-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:07, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Un-blurred him a bit. Better?--Mousetalon 00:50, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry by the front of him I ment the lineart in the front. That still needs to be fixed-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:54, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

OH!!!! Let me fix that! Reuploaded I think that's good.--Mousetalon 01:23, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

The cat needs eye color. right now, it's just black. Make it like blue, green or amber. if the page doesn't say, just do one of the randomly. --Honeyrose34 16:04, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I gave him amber eyes, they looked better than blue or green.--Mousetalon 19:14, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Great job. I see that the one tabby mark near the center of his flank seems.....hollow. I don't know if that makes sense or not it seems like it was kind-of painted. if you don't know what i mean, just ask. --Honeyrose34 21:12, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed it. Thanks, I think that happened when I was fixing the blur on his chest.--Mousetalon 21:17, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - His eyes need a pupil. Try looking at some of the approved warriors for help. Mossfire &amp; Steatlhfire 22:02, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded There. --Mousetalon 22:25, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

The shading seems sort of blotchy.-- Darkhallows 23:29, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

How should I fix it? --Mousetalon 03:04, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

For the blotchy shading, use the blur tool and run it over the blotchy areas. The bottom of his left fore paw (the one closest to us) is a little blurred. It looks great! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 13:28, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

ReuploadedThanks a lot! I think I fixed that part. . . anything else?--Mousetalon 19:39, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

The lineart on his chest and front paw closest to us looks thin.-- Ashshadow My Clan 01:59, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

ReuploadedBetter? I fixed the shading a bit too. :) Mousetalon Call Me Mousey!!!

(M) - Very good. However, the ear pink is too light (Look at Tigerstar's image) and the lineart on his chest looks blurred. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:35, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded AGAIN Better? I've reuploaded this nine times. Do we need to go for ten? :) Mousetalon Call Me Mousey!!!

The lineart is blurred/missing in some spots.-- Darkhallows 11:13, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I got really annoyed with him, so I completely re-did him. Reuploaded :) Mousetalon Call Me Mousey!!!

(M) - This looks wonderful. The only thing is, what's that scar on his haunch for? Sure he broke his leg, but that will no doubt heal and it wouldn't scar. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:19, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

What scar? Oh! My bad!!! I think that happened when I was putting in the ear pink! Mousey Chat

Jayfeather(k)- For Approval
Um, am I allowed to do this? But this is my first charcat. Jayfeather: a tough guy, kitten days. Fur all soft and lighter. Comments? <span style="font-family:papyrus; color;black; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Faithlark Talk :) 22:15, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - This is great! Just see if you can blur the ear pink a bit more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Awsome! But maybe make the eyes a darker shade of blue--Nightfall101 22:36, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is really good but can you make him longhaired. His apprentice pic has long hair.-- Ashshadow My Clan 22:49, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Remember, we have a Jayfeather image, please try to keep to no imaged cats. You can keep him up, though.-- Darkhallows 23:39, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Remember what Darky told you. Also, darken the pelt and don't darken the eye color, becasue he is blind and has light grayish eyes.-- *Minn owc law*  00:52, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

He looks like a silver tabby. Try darkening the pelt color. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 01:59, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

It think the color is fine, he doesn't look too silver.-- Darkhallows 11:14, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Please work on this soon or it will be declined. -- Bramble -san  17:04, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Larkwing - For Approval


I don't know what I think of this image. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 08:48, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

She's gorgeous Dawn! :O I think that the black patch on the back of her neck is way too dark. Besides that, great job! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 14:36, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - She's absolutely, incredibly, astoundingly, and amazingly beautiful, gorgeous, and any other synonyms for any of the words I just used. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:50, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Great job! That is one of the best medicine cat charcats I have ever seen!

-- Nightwhisker98 Cloudclan Deputy 20:56, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is too light that i can't see it well, make it a little darker. --Honeyrose34 22:28, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

You could blur the highlights a bit more. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 22:56, November 23, 2009 (UTC) Whoops, wrong section!

Okay, reuploaded. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:14, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Man, this is gorgeous! But there is a white line against the lineart further down her chest--Nightfall101 00:42, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to be such a complainer, but the ear pink is still knid of transparent. If you know what i mean, it is pale and i can kind-of see the rest of the fur kind-of underneath. I don't know if you know what i mean so to say something you understand, the ear pink needs to be darker. --Honeyrose34 22:08, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Wow...I dunno but maybe blue the markings a TINY bit and mayb add shading to the chest-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 00:43, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Oooh, I love the way the it looks like real fur. I can barely see the ear pink, but other than that, AMAZING! -- I ♥ R a v e n p a w <font color="Silver">Talk

Reedfeather- For Approval
My second tabby. Comments?-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:01, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong. I like the type of tabby stripes that you used. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:02, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Love it! I don't see anything right now. Keep it going! --Honeyrose34 23:05, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes on his hind paw that's closest to us should probably be blurred a little more. But this is great!--Nightfall101 23:21, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for all the nice comments. As for the stripes on the hind leg, it's the way their blurred that makes it look unblurred. They're so small that blurring them more dosent make a difference.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:31, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

I think this is ready. Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 17:39, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

It could use a lot more shading. On the head and neck area especially. -- Bramble -san  03:39, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Should I darken the shading in those areas?-- Ashshadow My Clan 15:36, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened the highlight some. Is it better?-- Ashshadow My Clan 01:54, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

I can't really see the shading, add more.-- Darkhallows 11:15, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Smokefoot - For Approval


I seriously did this under three minutes. :) Constructments? How does he look? -- Bramble -san  23:43, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

He's awsome! And I can't find anything wrong with him=)--Nightfall101 23:45, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

o.O I don't see anything wrong. Great job Bramble! But he looks a tiny bit dark. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 23:47, November 23, 2009 (UTC) isn't the background supposed to be transparent? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Wow =D The shading is a little too dark on the back, legs and hind leg curve though. Other than that, I really see nothing. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:47, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Lightened. -- Bramble -san  03:37, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, comments before approval?-- Darkhallows 11:16, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Blossompaw- For Approval
I tried to match Blossomkit's picture the best I could. Meh. What do you think of her? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 01:37, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

She's BEAUTIFUL (lol i almost spelled it wrong)Honey!!! All I see is add shading. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 01:39, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Awesome!! This looks better than the kit picture i think. It looks like on the kit one that she got sprayed w/ mud! Besides the kit picture, nice! All i see is maybe make the ear pink a tad darker and bigger. I can't see it that well.--Honeyrose34 21:11, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, guys! Is this better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:20, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be on there. --Honeyrose34 21:43, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I actually had shading, but I guess it was just too light. XD Sorry about that, guys. Better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 18:51, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the patches of fur, but otherwise it's au-mazing!!!!! :) Mousetalon Call Me Mousey!!!

Dovestar-For Approval
This is Dovestar. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:25, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Nice work! Just lighten the shading a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 14:32, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

better? hope it's not to light :/. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:45, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Perfect. Just darken the ear pink a little and he should be good to go. The ear pink is really bright. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 16:18, November 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * better? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:31, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is still a tad too bright and it's too big. --Honeyrose34 21:12, November 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * Better? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:23, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Now the ear pink is purplish. Try making it a light salmon-ish color instead. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 17:40, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Ivypaw (A)~for approval


I used the same tabby stripe style as her kit version, but I think they look... IDK-- *Minn owc law*  22:32, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks amazing, but maybe do the tabby stripes bigger. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 22:36, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

For the image, maybe make the amount of silver bigger so you have more room to make the tabby stripes bigger. But the current appearance for Ivypaw, as listed in TFA, is "white tabby she-cat", which would be a white cat with silver tabby stripes (I think). But as to which description you should use...I don't know. I think that should be Sandy or Bramble's decision. Lots of cats keep having apperance and gender changes almost every book (lol), so it's hard to keep track of descriptions, as well as which ones to use on the character pages. --  Icy -chan  22:20, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

lol Minnow. The tabby stripes on the kit version are small because she's a kit - they would get bigger as she got older - theyre just 'y' shaped markings, old style. Description... hmm... My opinion is that you should use the current TFA description as that is where she is mentioned as an app. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:01, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

I'm starting agian, so give me a second.-- *Minn owc law*  02:03, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

ugggg...-- *Minn owc law*  02:15, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

She shouldn't be white with grey, that color doesn't really exist. Color her like the kit version.-- Darkhallows 11:24, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

mist where sunlight shimmers~for approval
well, icy says its ready!!is it how you do it?? *Ivy pool*  07:03, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

It's great! But the shading looks kinda bumpy, and the lineart on her back looks blurred. Also, the image needs to be under the headline part--Nightfall101 08:55, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Try to connect the mud streaks, 'cause they look like spots now. This looks great! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:04, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit, and blur the mud streaks, but other than that, AWESOME!!!!!--Mousetalon 19:43, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

The eye needs to look more realistic. (Wow, I missed something like that.) Look at Wing Shadow over Water for an example of how to do the eye. --  Icy -chan  20:50, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

reploaded *Ivy  pool*  07:24, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

The eye color looks, too big for the eye, it kind of seems too big, if you know what I mean. --Honeyrose34 17:27, November 26, 2009 (UTC) reploaded-- *Ivy  pool*  06:29, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

There are some white spots near the lineart.-- Darkhallows 11:17, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

The mud streaks look kind of a olive green colour as opposed to a grey/brown. The ear pink needs to be more triangular also Sandy   Talk   16:46, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Moss that Grows by River - For Approval
Yay! First cave-guard up for approval! ^_^ How does she look? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 00:50, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong. Very nice Echo! :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 00:51, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L!! ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 00:53, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Wow. I--I--I love it. Why can't I draw like this?! :) Icestorm ♥ Leave me a meow! 01:37, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong. This image is great!...but it needs mud streaks. (I know, all these compliments, and then I have to point that out. Sorry. :P) --  Icy -chan  02:06, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

wow!!no wonder you are a senior warrior!!and i don't think cave guards have mud streaks. *Ivy pool*  07:34, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Yay, my blank has been colored:D Anyway, this is really good! And cave-guards do have mud streaks, it says so on the Tribe of Rushing Water article. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 15:09, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Nice! But, I think that the eye color is to bright, tone it down a little. Then it may be ready for approval!! --Honeyrose34 17:25, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - should the ear pink be that red? Other than that, WOW! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:59, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Ferretpaw (A) - For Approval
Not sure what to think of this one... --  Icy -chan  03:17, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

His description say that he was a cream and gray, and the cream looks, orangey-pink, could you make it more creamy like Daisy or Berrynose w/ out the brown part. Hope that can help!!! --Honeyrose34 17:23, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. How's this? I redid the whole image. --  Icy -chan  19:43, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

The tail looks very flat, if you know what I mean. Add some shading to it. :) Mousetalon Call Me Mousey!!!

(S) - His tail is already shaded though. Maybe add a highlight in the middle instead? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 13:04, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Whoops. Wow, I forgot to add shading on the tail. *face-palm* How did I forget that? Anyway...I can't see the changes yet, but if/when they show up, is this any better? (If it doesn't show up by later I'll try uploading again...) --  Icy -chan  15:53, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, this is kinda weird. The changes don't show on the current image, but they do on a past image...should I try reverting the image, or just waiting awhile longer? --  Icy -chan  18:47, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Try re-uploading the image. Sometimes the uploading system's touchy. Also, the shading should be blurred more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:29, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-ish. Grr...I uploaded it again, you can click on the image and see, the newer version is showing in the past thumbnails, but not the current image. Does anyone know how to fix it? Should I upload it as a new file? --  Icy -chan  20:54, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

As I said above on my Rushpaw image, I just decided to upload a new file. Now that I've got the correct image, any comment and suggestions? --  Icy -chan  17:40, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I think this looks great. Comments before approval in 24 hours? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:17, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Snowy (R)-For Approval
Okay, I'm not sure who reserved Snowy first, me or Spottedwing. But I remember looking to see if she was reserved or not, and I didn't see her name. It was only tonight I noticed she was on the list of reservations. So anyway, here she is! My third Charart, and first rouge!--Nightfall101 03:51, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

She is amazing! I can barely see the earpink though, try darkneing it. :) Icestorm ♥ Talk! undefined 14:39, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

You had her first, Nightfall. No worries. Now, just darken the shading a touch, and blur it fully, as well as what Ice said, and she'll be awesome. -- Bramble -san  15:44, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Nightfall, I didn't know you had her reserved. I think it's beautiful. I could never do something that great. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 18:16, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks guys. I'm on vacation at the moment, so I'll get to it next week. Oh and Spotty (Mind if I call you that?) no hard feelings=)--Nightfall101 22:58, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Owlfur- For Approval
This is Owlfur. Not my best work. Comments?-- Ashshadow My Clan 02:28, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, add some shading to the paws, and blur all of the shading, it looks messy right now. Great job, though! --  Icy -chan  15:58, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the earpink some more and added shading to the front leg. The shading on the rest of the body was already blurred to the max so any ideas on how to make it look less messy.-- Ashshadow My Clan 16:18, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Might want to dull the ear pink color, it's really bright. But other than that, awesome! :) Mousetalon Call Me Mousey!!!

Foxleap (W) -for Approval
Heees back up again because TFA came out! Yay! He was gathering dust in my files...-- ♥Sha dow edh eart♥  ♥Meow♥ ♥Prey♥  14:41, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

The image itself looks great, but it looks nothing like his apprentice image. His apprentice image and his warrior image should have the same style of tabby stripes. (It seems reasonable to do it that way.) But as I said, the image itself looks great! --  Icy -chan  16:03, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Icy's right. Is there any other cat this could be instead? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:43, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Crag where eagles nest (CG) For approval
Contsructive critisism?--Evanphoto 18:20, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - He looks rather...bumpy. Try blurring him more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:23, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--Evanphoto 00:28, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

I think you accidentally erased part of the mouth line, and the eye needs a highlight. And blur the shading/highlights more. Good job! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:57, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--Evanphoto 16:41, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - The spance in between the legs should be colored, and he needs mud streaks. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:12, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Oatwhisker(TC)- For Approval
My second one!!!!! Anything I need to improve? :) Mousetalon Call Me Mousey!!!

(M) - Your highlights are much too bright. Run the burn tool over them a few times. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:20, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed you sig again Mousey: your final span and sup tags were the wrong way around - they have to be in order from inside to out if that makes sense: in pairs. eg wih your content in between... As for the image, looks good =) Make the ear pink a darker reddish colour though.  Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:24, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Stupid siggy. :( Okay, fixed the highlights, better? :) Mousetalon Call Me Mouse!!!

You still need to do the ear. The highlights look good though Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:41, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Ooops. caps lock. Anything else? :) Mousetalon Call Me Mouse!!!

Gorsepaw (A) - For approval


(M) - Poor Gorsepaw! /sob/ Why, Tigerstar, why?!?!

Anyways, I've come to admit that I just don't have enough time to do blanks with school back in. But, I do have enough time for chararts. This is my first patched cat up for approval and my first charart in over, like, 2 months. (I was busy with blanks.) The main problem with this is that the eye color might be too dark, but that's for you guys to decide. Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:46, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

This is soooo beautiful Moss!!! All I see is make the ear more pinkish and lighter. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 23:50, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. Let me know if the changes don't show up. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:54, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Uploading service isn't working, so I had to reupload a new file. The changes are showing up now. Any other comments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:06, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Stormfur (CG) - for approval
hm...is he too dark?-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 00:50, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Much too dark. Try doing more of a blue-gray, like Stonefur's fur. Also, no more than 35 images can be up at a time. This is number 36; please take it down and wait until another image has been approved, then you can put it back up. -- I ♥ R a v e n p a w <font color="Silver">Talk

No, don't to blue-gray. It clearly says he is dark gray like Graystripe. But I agree it's too dark--Nightfall101 02:36, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Nightfal's right, keep it to a gray color, like Stormfur's apprentice image. It's not the fur color that's too dark, it's the shading. The shading is way too dark. Also, make the ear pink more of a reddish color rather than a pink color. --  Icy -chan  03:45, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded -- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 16:32, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink is far too bright. Run the burn tool over it a few times and blur it. Might want to make it smaller too. :) Mousetalon Call Me Mousey!!!

Some pixels of the tail- and leglineart seem to be blurred and there are some white pixels on the tails ground. The shadding looks great by the way. --  Holly... leaf or berry?

The mudstreaks look really unnatural and the ear pink needs to be a slightly more reddish colour. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:38, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Toadstep (W) - For Approval
My first black and white cat... I think I overdid the furry effect on the patchesXD --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 01:05, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

No more than 35 images can be up at a time... please take this down and wait until two have been approved. Image-wise, the patches look a little... spiky. -- I ♥ R a v e n p a w <font color="Silver">Talk

I think the patches look amazing! But the part of the patches that are farther away from the lineart and shading look a little to gray. Try darkening them. Sadly though, Bluestar's right. There can only be 35 images up at a time. But I bet it won't be long before you can re-submit this!--Nightfall101 02:43, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

This can probably stay up since there's a couple of images on 24 hours. For the image, try blurring the patches a few times, and maybe smudging them back in just a little bit, they're smudged too much and too far apart. Smudge them back in and then blur, and it should be better. Also, the highlights on the black are making it look more gray-ish, try darkening the highlights some so that the fur looks dark-gray or black. Great job for your first black and white cat! --  Icy -chan  03:42, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the patches. The new image wouldn't reupload over the old one, so I had to rename the image. Better now? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:38, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

The patches look very smudgy and the shading on the black areas is too dark... it's indistinguishable from the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:37, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the patches. Better now? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 18:17, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Bird That Rides the Wind- For Approval
My second cave-guard. Comments? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 18:20, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Beautiful! Maybe just blur the chest highlights some more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:56, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-But the chage is not shwoing and I don't know what's wrong. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 21:18, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

NVM!! I was so stupid I accidentaly uploaded another image lol. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 22:58, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

I love the tabby stripes! This needs mud streaks, and then it should be good. Great job! --  Icy -chan  02:23, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Rosepetal (W) - For Approval
Not much to say about this one... Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 23:09, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful job Hawktalon!!! Could you just blur the tail a little? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 23:21, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, blur the tail shadows. Might want to blur the highlights too, but you don't have to. --Mousetalon 23:33, November 28, 2009 (UTC) I'm re-doin my siggy.

Reuploaded - Fixed. And, once again, the changes wouldn't show, so I had to rename the image. Jeez, this has happened twice with me today... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 23:45, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

It's happening to me a lot of times too. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 23:49, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Same here. :) Mousetalon Call Me Mouse!!!

It's happening to everybody, so I asked Bramble about it, and she said it was okay to upload the new files if we had to. Image-wise, darken the ear pink some, it's hard to see since the fur is a red-ish color. But otherwise, great job! I really like this image! --  Icy -chan  00:25, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks, Icethroat! I fixed the ear pink. Hopefully, the upload log will be fixed by tomorrow. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 01:19, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Um... she doesn't look like her kit version (who has faint tabby stripes). Cream is a diluted ginger, and thus has stripes.-- Darkhallows 04:07, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Shady is right. Also, the shading looks too dark to me. Sandy  Talk   15:59, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - *slaps self in face* Stupid me, how could I have forgotten the tabby stripes? Well, I added some faint stripes and lightened the shading. (*sigh* There goes my hopes of the upload log working today. Bramble, could you delete the extra files of Rosepetal, please? Thanks.) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 17:51, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Birdy (K) - For Approval
Okay, quite a lot to say for this one. I couldn't bear to see GB's Birdy image go to waste as all it needed was shading so I've played around with it a little. I asked Bramble and she said it was fine to post it so here he is. Note: This is mostly the work of GB so credit goes to him although at the end of the day the images are for the wiki, not for personal gain.

I know the page is at 35 now but there are a few images in the 24 hours stage so I figured one extra wouldn't hurt for a few hours =)

I've had to upload this in a new file as the upload log is playing up and wouldn't let me upload over the original file so Bramble, there are two unecessary files: Birdy.png and Birdy(K).png; perhaps you could delete them please?

Anyway, enough of me going on, Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:35, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you could lighten the white parts a bit, 'cause they look kind of gray. Looks great! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:14, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Done. The image log is failing miserably though so you should be able to see it in the history of changes on the file nd hopefully it should update here soon. I'm running out of file names for him though ^_^ If it doesn't update soon then I'll reuse one of the names I've asked Bramble to delete (if that makes sense). Any other comments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:19, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Yay, glad to see GB's image isn't going to waste. I see nothing else wrong. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:10, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Stoneclaw (W)- For Approval
I ran out of file names for him. But Hawkey says he's ready. So what do you think? Oh and let me know if the changes don't show up. Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Purple;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Icestorm Purr all the way! :) 16:33, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Add higlights and blur the shadowing A LOT. Wait, is that the old or new image? <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:lime; background:magenta;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:lime;">Mousetalon Mousey! :)

I did add highlights. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Purple;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Icestorm Purr all the way! :) 18:39, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Really? Did you use the dodge tool on the head too? :) Mousetalon Meow to me! |undefined

I don't know. I'll do it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Purple;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Icestorm Purr all the way! :) 18:45, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded The changes won't show so I had to change the file name. Not sure if this is better or not <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Purple;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Icestorm Purr all the way! :) 18:53, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Weedwhisker (E) - For Approval
I know, as soon as images get cleared off the page, I just go ahead and add another. XP But I think Weedwhisker needs an image, both of his previous images were withdrawn, so I took it up as a challenge to work on his image, and I'm going to do my best on not withdrawing him.

I tried to make the patches different sizes, and I tried to make sure there weren't any too open spots (I think there's enough pathces.), but I'm not sure if I got too many or not. Also, because of the highlight I put on his head, I had to mke the eye color a little bit darker to make the highlight in the pupil not look yellow.

Enough of my rambling on (:D), comments and suggestions? --  Icy -chan  19:04, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

9M) - This looks great! However, the patches on the back are all the same size, so make some thinner (not going out as far) and maybe erase one. Also, there are a couple patches that look a bit like dimonds. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  19:09, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

This looks awesome! Oh and how do you make that kind of siggy? Anyways maybe lighten the earpink because it looks like of reddish/hot pinkish color rather than a pinkish color <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Purple;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Icestorm Purr all the way! :) 19:30, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Icestorm: the ear pink is supposed to be a reddish color, I made the ear pink just like I did on my Quickpaw image. Mosswhisker: how's this? Any better? --  Icy -chan  19:45, November 29, 2009 (UTC)