Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Tweak Page

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=Tweaking=

Leopardstar (D) ~ Redone
She needed to be redone to match others she was on the list. OA was Sandstar12. Comments? 03:30, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Make the unshaded bits brighter, they sorta look shiny on the other images. Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 03:32, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

She looks kinda greenish. Make her a little more orange. 03:33, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:40, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Make her a bit brighter. Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 22:10, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit and define the earpink. 20:33, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:51, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Saturate the image a tad and add highlights so it matches the other images. 05:49 Sat Jan 7

Also, lighten the whole image just a tad. 03:57, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:02, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Add/brighten highlights so this looks shinier (like the other images) 02:02 Tue Jan 10

Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. 00:24 Sat Jan 14

Coal (Ro) ~ Redone
Yay! My first tweaked charart! Just to tell you, I use highlights and right now they're blurred to the max. ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  23:50, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

OA and why did it have to be redone? 23:51, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

lighten the whole thing, I can't see the lineart 23:53, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

It was on the redo list and OA is Blackclaw09. ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  23:58, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  00:00, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Center the earpink. 00:35, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

His ears are facing <---that way though. ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  00:39, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but they should still be centered. That's the placement. 00:47, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

But, the earpink placement for Shadepelt's elder would have to be centered, then. I think it's fine. 00:49, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

If is ear-pink facing ←← this way, i think you should add it on the second ear too. ,18:25,January 5,2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded ♫Purplemoon♪   2012! The end of the world?  14:28, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the pelt more, and maybe enlarge the highlights 06:36, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  21:45, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Tone down the highlights a tad. 01:06, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  12:51, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Blur or tone the highlights down more. 22:24 Sat Jan 14

Milkfur (WC) (D) ~ Redone
Needed to be done as shorthaired. OA was Moonflight, comments? 08:27, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Add some haunch shading, and blur alot. Sky-  Lather. Rinse. Obey. 09:58, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Blur that light parts alot ,18:20,January 5,2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten it. 20:07 Thu Jan 5

It looks like there is blurred lineart on the haunch. 20:11, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

You know you didn't actually have to redo it? You can just layer the shorthaired lineart over the original version. See the tutorial if you don't know how. 22:32, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tiny bit, and there's some missing lineart on the front paw and a few other places. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:20, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a tad more. 03:44, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Still working on this, Dapple? 22:23, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 23:07, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

(If this isn't a highlight, just ignore what I say ;)) Tone down the highlight on the tip of the tail. It looks really bright. O.o 23:12, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made it a bit darker. 23:33, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Make him a slightly creamier colour? Sky-  Lather. Rinse. Obey. 23:46, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

The color is from the old image. 01:10, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

It does look a bit too white, and it's his only image anyway. It wouldn't hurt to make it a bit more creamy color. 01:26, Wed, Jan, 11, 2012

Blur the earpink more. 23:13 Wed Jan 11

The base pelt color seems okay...The long haired version was the same. =P 01:06, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Songbird (Q) ~ Redone
Redone because it was blotchy, tinted green, and the tabby pattern was unrealistic. OA=Icestorm123, later redone by Dappleclaw, then tweaked a bit by Dappleclaw and Nightshine. (I think) 16:55, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten up the unshaded parts a bit. (Might just be me though) Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue">Lather. Rinse. Obey. 21:17, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

... okay. Smudge the stripes to be less solid. 22:49, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Smudges the white some more. Define the shading 23:02, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the brown up too, seeing as she's a light brown tabby. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue">Lather. Rinse. Obey. 02:43, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

And if you want the tabby pattern to be realistic as you said, ditch the triangles. 02:46, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, idiot me. :P But, I have to withdraw this due to a very busy week. 01:06, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'll take over. :3 01:07, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I Re-Uploaded.' I completely redid it... comments? 01:42, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Connect some of the stripes along the body. It doesn't make much sense for stripes to radiate from the spine and stomach and never meet. 01:52, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shadin. ^^ <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution 06:35, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger and blur it. <span style="">22:28 Sat Jan 14

Dawncloud (W) - Redone
To match the others. Also blotchy shading ._. blotchy shading angers Wildy. <span style="">02:08 Tue Jan 10

Quietstep was the OA :P <span style="">02:09 Tue Jan 10

Wildy rage is bad, only if Wildy is raging on ME. define the tail shading 02:17, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry for the delay :P <span style="">02:00 Sun Jan 15

Lizardfang (E) - Redone
Well he is on the redo-list with stripes, shadings needs redone too. I decided make him, but right now i saw he is looking like dark with light stripes..hmm, my very first elder ever -_- OA is Sandstar12. *I failed with this* ,18:37,January 11,2012 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the stripes, I think. 19:01, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I love this pattern, anyways, it looks like the pattern on the tail is a continuous pattern of the body so you might want to change up the stripes on the tail as I don't think any cat has a continuous tabby pattern when they strike a pose like that. x3 01:09, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

They don't look like stripes at all ._. 03:07, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah no, not much... sorry. 03:10, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

experimenting* this? reuploaded ,14:34,January 12,2012 (UTC)

There is some waste along his haunch/tail area. 18:30, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded ,20:53,January 12,2012 (UTC)

Can you blur the stripes some more? They look a little sharp. 03:05, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

of course! Reuploaded ,19:58,January 13,2012 (UTC)

Some of the shading is darker than others. Make it more consistent. <span style="">22:31 Sat Jan 14

Icecloud (W) ~ Redone
The shagding was poor and the ear-pink was to dark for a white cat. The OA was either Cloudy or Icecloud. I got permission to redo this from Ivy in chat a couple minutes ago by the way. Comments for improvement? 19:41, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and thicken out the shading on the haunch. Define the ear-pink and blur it. <span style="">23:10 Wed Jan 11

I'm not a fan of the earpink. Make it darker and redder. Breeze whisker  01:17, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 19:22, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I forgot some waste between the legs. Fixed that. 19:33, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  00:55, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 01:25, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Make the tail 'highlight' curve with the tail more, and if she has shading on the back of her head and ears area, darken it to match the rest of the shading. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution  05:37, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 18:48, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

To me the shading looks kind of dark and unblurred. Do that as well as blur the earpink a little more. 18:49, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Define the earpink. <span style="">22:33 Sat Jan 14

Re-uploaded. Fail. 00:03, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution  04:37, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a little, too. x3 05:20, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Bluestar (L) - Redone
Not sure about the OA...Shimmerpool, Mousetalon, Pockystar, with a redo by Mintstarr. As much as I liked her old image we decided on changing her color. 01:03, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

I still think this needs to match Mistystar. No cat is cobalt colored. 01:05, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Shelly, even though is is epic! :D <span style="">01:11 Thu Jan 12

Failure, I meant this. <span style="">01:13 Thu Jan 12

Yeah, blue-grey cats aren't really blue. Also, could you maybe make the silver go onto her chin. Right now, she looks like she's got a mustache. XD Breeze  whisker  01:25, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Honestly, I really don't feel this looks like Bluestar anymore :/ Majority rules. 01:40, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Still a bit off. Just do what I did: pick the color off a picture of a Russian blue and add blue highlights. That's just my suggestion, though! 01:42, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Her highlights look tinted green, make them more blue. <span style="">01:46 Thu Jan 12

There are no highlights on this >.> On her color I slid the blue over to be more gray. All I did. 01:49, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

You forgot the shoulder scar. o3o <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Hissing noises. 02:19, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, It looked like it... <span style="">02:22 Thu Jan 12

Then the blue was greenish in color, because it really does appear slightly green. Breeze whisker  04:09, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I feel like this is my first try at Leafstar's queen all over again :(  02:42, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Now she looks a bit purple... seriously, it's a lot easier and more realistic looking if you did it how I did. Grey base. Blue highlights. 03:57, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

huh, looks more purple on Bluestar than on Stormtail dear. Maybe just make it a biiiiit blue-er. And Shelly, to be completely honest, I think Misty could have been blue-er. But she's already approved, so whatever. But I do think that Bluestar should stay like this. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  05:53, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Are you guys forgetting that they've never been described as straight-up blue? They're blue-grey, and the only cat to look like that is a Russian blue, which Mistystar matches. If you guys can find a picture of a straight up blue cat that resembles Bluestar on the cover of Bluestar's Prophecy of in Cats of the Clans that hasn't been painted, photoshop'd, or dyed, I, along with the scientific community, would love to see it. I realize that we have to follow descriptions, but at most I think a completely blue charart would be an alt, not the main image, since the images that show her to be blue have no grey in them whatsoever. 15:00, January 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * In fact, Bluestar has had a conversation that confirms that she's only blue in the light. Remember, in Crookedstar's Promise and Bluestar's Prophecy at the gathering? Crookedpaw noted that Bluepaw didn't look blue, only grey, and she states that she looks more blue in the light. 15:04, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Shelly, if we go by your argument of the official images being an alt, and making her more gray, despite her description, Tigerstar's pale muzzle and belly should be removed. Bluestar is consistently shown as very blue-gray, just as tigerstar is consistently shown with a pale muzzle. The cover and her CotC picture is actually blue-gray, so why not use it? And yes, Bluepaw says she looks more blue in the light, but that could mean any light at all. It was probably near pitch black when she said that, as the only light would be from the moon. And as for a photo, I don't have an exact match, but this one's pretty darn close to what the charart's like right now. I stand by my argument that Mistystar should be blue-er, and that Bluestar should stay like this, perhaps just being less purple-y. And the purple thing is partly my fault since I told Ivy that Stormtail's color would be good, but it looks different on her charart, so I apologize for that. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:11, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, Paleh, I haven't tried using his color yet ^^; I tried omitting the "green" that everyone was claiming to see. 16:35, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, Ok. XD Well in that case, maybe try Storm's color, cause this is slightly purple tinter. And though the image that I linked, and a few other I found were slightly purple too, that's what this was being tweaked for, so.... :P ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  17:03, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

The cats you showed don't look like the images of Bluestar on the cover of the super edition or in Cats of the Clan. They're actually blue-grey, as they're Russian blues. In the "official art", she's just plain blue, and looks like this: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120112001649/warriors/images/archive/c/c7/20120112013914!Bluestar.leader.png And that goes against her usual description. Tigerstar's pale muzzle and underbelly does not. The completely blue image disregards the grey part of her description, and should be an alt. 17:21, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's this? And should we take that image, slap the scar on it I forgot, and put the alt on her page? 17:39, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Well I'm not saying it should be an exact match. But I have the cover in front of me, and it is blue-gray. It may be exaggerating the blue part slightly to make her more unique, but it is pretty close to realistic. Here's another example of a blue cat that's very close to the cover of Bluestar's Prophecy. Like I said, they may have exaggerated the blue part slightly, but not enough to warrant an alt, or have to go completely disregard the image. Now I'm not saying to color-pick from it, I'm just saying, it is natural, and Bluestar should stay visibly blue-gray, instead of gray with blue highlights. And anyways, I like this one best. Just lighten the eyes a bit. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  17:41, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Ivy, if you want to put that up for an alt, go for it, but it'd have to go on the approval page first. I've already cited the error in her trivia. I'm not trying to say you're wrong or start a fight, Paleh. Those images just look plain blue, if not cobalt. And that cat you cited still doesn't look like the images of her in the books. 17:45, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't say the first one I cited looked like the cover, I said it looked like the the version of Blue's charart that was up at the time. However, the second one does look nearly as blue. The cover actually more purple, but almost the same saturation. It'd be like giving Crookedstar an alt because they exaggerated his description slightly in the manga. It's not enough for an alt, however, it may not be exact. I really don't think it's worth an alt. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  17:50, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Mistystar (Q) ~ Redone
Eh. Comments? 02:10, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Nice job! The tail shading looks a a little flat though. 18:40, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Blossomkit (SC) (Ki) - Tweaked
She needed darker shadings, i also edited eye and just a little earpink. OA is Darkhallows and redone by Icethroat21 later. ,20:27,January 13,2012 (UTC)

This is awesome >:D The left ear looks lighter than the left ear. Darken it. 21:25, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded ,11:52,January 14,2012 (UTC)

Minty (Ro) ~ Tweaked
The last one I put up got declined. OA Was Icestorm123 and the shading needed to be blurred. 21:27, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Define the earpink. Looks great, Fire! 23:39, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Uplaoded. Thanks, Claw of Stones :D 23:41, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Foxwhisker (W)~ Tweaked


The stripes had been bothering me for a while, and im the OA of the current image so it was easy to tweak. I also blurred the shading a bit. 21:32, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

O I love this! Blur the stripes. 21:35, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 02:46, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Define the earpink a little bit more. I luff this<3 05:37, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Bluestar (D) ~ Redone
Needed to be more blue-grey. OA= Mumble785 with tweaks by Minstarr and Snowdazzle. 23:17, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

The tear should be on the other ear, me thinks. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Fightin 'gainst the Legolution 23:26, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

I copied it from the past image. Let me check. 23:27, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Well it's in the other ear on her leader image now. Could you make the color a bit lighter to match that one? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  00:13, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Take the color from the haunch of Stormtail 00:24, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 13:52, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading and earpink. 23:38, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Upoaded. 00:05, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Brighten and redden the ear-pink and define and darken the shading. 04:08, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Beechstar (L) ~ Tweaked
He needed to be a lighter brown. OA was Echomist, with a tweak by Iceheart, and what looks like a redo by Wildheart. Breeze whisker  05:22, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

It looks like there's a translucent film over the entire image, including the lineart. Could you fix this? To do that, just take another copy of the same lineart and lay it over the image on a new layer until it lines up. Should fix it. 15:06, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah...Also, blur the earpink a tad. 23:37, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry.. why did he need to be a lighter brown? I don't see the reasoning behind tweaking this. He is described as neither dark nor light brown <span style="">00:14 Sun Jan 15

He was on the tweak list. Something about dark brown not actually being part of his description. If you think how it was was fine. Go ahead and decline it. :3 Breeze  whisker  03:39, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

....Uh.*raises hand* I was the one that put him on the Tweak list. Heheh...I guess this is my fault, huh? xD; 04:46, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Wing (PH) - Redone
Okay... I have been simply dying to redo this. The gray was placed awkwardly so it looked like really weird shading. If anyone has any real vices with me redoing this, I can take it down and revert it. OA was Shadowedheart, with a tweak by Bramble, and then a redo by Moonflight and Cloudy. Comments? 05:43, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the grey a little. 16:13, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Explain to me what was wrong with this image. I do have a problem with you re-doing it. It needed to match her queen image, which it did. I have a major issue with this, because it was one of the quickest I'd ever completed, and I thought it was perfect. 20:21, January 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you have problems with images that get proposed and accepted for tweak, take it up with the project leadership and spearhead a revamp of the process by which tweaks are proposed and given permission. Don't attack those redoing images. Instead find out why it was approved and discuss it with the person who approved the tweak. 22:07, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

I dunno... please, please don't get mad at me, but the placement of the grey on all of her images is a bit awkward. I can't tell is the grey on the bottom is shading or not just by looking. 21:56, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Now, Scarlet, could you please lighten the shading a bit? 21:59, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Why does the pattern have to be changed though? I have no problem with this being redone just fr say, better shading, or defining the patches, but personally I liked the old pattern. Can't you keep that and just define the patches or something? I don't wanna cause drama, I just liked the old patter. <span style="border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:#4b3b6a; font-family:Cursive; background:#bdcdff; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;"> Pale Legs   ♪Be prepared...♪  02:28, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Paleh. Cloudy would have given you the .xcf to touch it up. 02:35, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

If everyone would like to keep the old version, I'm perfectly fine with that. I just say that Gorsetail's pattern had been redone and I figured that cats with the same pattern should be redone. And if Cloudy would like to tweak it, I'm fine with that to (she asked earlier). 04:07, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

But the pattern's not the same thing. Just look at the queen image. It only looks that way because the PH blanks are a little smaller and harder to work with. If you don't mind, I'll take over on it, as I do in fact have the .xcf file, and I'm working on it now. It's looking better, actually. 04:14, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Fine by me. 04:15, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Blackstar (R) ~ Redone
Got him back. Comments? He needed his paws lightened, the black parts on him blurred, and the earpink enlarged. 11:43, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

He looks gray, lighten the shadings ,11:49,January 14,2012 (UTC)

Smudge the paws into the white a little more. 18:22, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Make the earpink more trianugler and blur it. <span style="">22:22 Sat Jan 14

Waspwhisker (W) ~ Tweaked
He was on the tweak list 'cause he need his shading darkened. OA I believe was Sunspirit. Comments for improvement? 18:28, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

I love this <3 Blur the scar. 18:30, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Aww, I know this isnt on the list but could you blur gray into white? Now it look like white cat with hairy carpet ,18:48,January 14,2012 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Thanks guys. Well, comments? 18:51, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:36, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 02:44, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Mistystar (D) ~ Redone
Comments? 19:43, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Shading and earpink could be blurred a tad 21:58, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Splash (Lo) ~ Tweaked
Patches needed to be smudged, OA was Icethroat. 05:12, January 15, 2012 (UTC)