Forum:AFTER FIRESTAR???

Who is going to be the ThunderClan leader after Firestar? Any ideas? Maybe StarClan won't trust Brambleclaw. Maybe it'll be Brackenfur. What do you think??? Ambergaze 20:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I look at the list of ThunderClan cats in Outcast and thought that Graystripe, Sandstorm, and Dustpelt would retire before Firestar dies. Brackenfur, Thornclaw and Brightheart also seem like they might retire. Cloudtail, Ashfur and Ferncloud each have their own major faults in potentially becoming deputy Cloudtail does not belive in StarClan, which is important if he were leader. Ashfur has a bad temper, and Ferncloud is much to caring. Sorreltail seems like the next choice, but she seems like ske might die soon in battle. Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight seem like good choices, but would Brambleclaw be able to live with the stress of being deputy until Firestar dies? I do no think so. Younger cats such as Spiderleg, Birchfall, Whitewing, Berrynose, Hazeltail, and Mousewhisker seem good, but Whitewing seems like the most likely one. Personally, I think that Cinderpaw will grow to become the leader folllowing Firestar. * swifty  *  21:22, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Anyone besides Brambleclaw is good with me. - Darkpaw

I agree with *swifty*. It should be Cinderpaw that will be deputy. --Amberleaf 00:07, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... I think that Cinderpaw would be a good deputy. She seems good to me. She's full of enthusiasm and is always happy, except when she's got tasks to do :-) 76.22.221.79 00:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I think Brambleclaw will die, Cinderpaw will get her warrior name and apprentice, Graystripe, Sandstorm, and Cloudtail will become elders, Cindersomething will become deputy, Firestar dies, and Cindersomething becomes Cinderstar. --Rainpaw 20:45, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I think that could actually happen!!! I'd like to see Cinderpaw as Clan leader. She seems like she'd be a good one too!!! --Amberpaw 01:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I think that Graystripe's going to get killed sooner than Brambleclaw. Then by Long Shadows (the 5th PO3) Cinderpaw will be a warrior, have an apprentice, and be made into deputy. Firestar will die in a battle, and Cindersomething will be Leader. --Amberleaf 01:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I think Graystripe deserves to live longer than that. But the Cinderstar theory makes sense, because that may be the path that StarClan laid out for her, but she didn't get to take it because of that darn leg. --Rainpaw 20:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

What about Brambleclaw? He is deputy,so doesn't that make him the next leader? Or am I missing something? But,Cinderpaw would make a great deputy someday. What about Lionpaw? Or Hollypaw? Holyypaw wants to be clan leader,for that matter.Wildflower 22:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

We were thinking Brambleclaw would die before Firestar. I think Vicky Holmes actually said somehting that was like she had Brambleclaw's death scene planned out or something like that.--Rainpaw 20:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, she said she had FIRESTAR's death scene all planned out. I went to a Reading/Discussion/Signing last night and she told us that. --Ambergaze 11:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

These are the two warriors I hope NEVER become leader of ThunderClan: Berrynose and Ashfur! Berrynose is so rude and full of himself, and Ashfur just seems too into revenge. --Amberleaf 00:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree. But then I don't really want Firestar to die anyway, but if Vicky said he would, I guess we'll just have to face it!--Rainpaw 21:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I will miss Firestar... I mean he was the one wwho got the whole series started!I think Ashfur will be the deputy and Brambleclaw will do something.--Jayfeather113 00:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I think Hollypaw should become leader, maybe Brambleclaw will appoint her as deputy. Firestar's getting really overused...I want to see him die! I also don't want Mistyfoot to become leader after Leapordstar, then too many of Firestar's friends would be leaders (Onestar, Mistyfoot) and the books would just be spoiled. Sonia 1000 16:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Dang...Firestar's gonna die?...That's just...a personal blow for me...without Firestar, there would be no Warriors. Tigerstar would have killed Bluestar, and Rusty wouldn't have been made Firepaw, Fireheart, or Firestar...It's like taking the walls...the base...of a house out. There would be no house. If Firestar was never there, Sandstorm would never have had Leafpool or Squirralflight. Without them, Lionpaw, Jaypaw, or Hollypaw would never have existed...wow...they're taking Warriors out of Warriors...that's just...sad...24.118.64.132 02:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)Wolf

It is sad. It wouldn't feel like Warriors anymore. Old Firestar was the one to start it all, but all things must come to an end. I agree though that Cinderpaw would make a great clan leader. Plus, it would make perfect sense.--Icewing 03:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Well if its not Brambleclaw, Cinder****** might have a very good chance. I just hate to see Brambleclaw AND Firestar die. --74.232.205.118 17:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC) (Oops forsgot to log in, this is Mousefire)

But I still really think it is all set up for Brambleclaw to be leader like it was with Firestar. You know, Redtail died and Lionheart died and TIgerclaw got exiled and then Bluestar died from athe dog pack and FIrestar became leader. So if Brambleclaw becomes leader, then might appiont Cinderwhatever as his deputy. Then something might happen with Brabmelclaw and he loses all his lives at once like TIgerstar and Cinderstar shall rule. The thing is I don't think Erind Hunter will kill Brambleclaw. Or will they?--Mousefire 17:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Here's just a random thought that has to do with Cinderpaw but not about the next leader of ThunderClan: Firestar mentored Cinderpelt (at first) and Cloudtail is mentoring Cinderpaw. Firestar is Cloudtail's uncle, and Cinderpelt is Cinderpaw's aunt (and that whole reincarnation thing). Oh, and, if Cinderpelt is in love with Firestar, does that mean that Cinderpaw might be in love with one of Firestar's desendents? Just wondering, and sorry that I got off topic, -- Rainpaw (Talk!)  18:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

About that ... She might mate with Jaypaw. * swifty  *  19:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe, but then there was that thing where forbidden love is really overused, but yeah, Jaypaw or Lionpaw would be cool. -- Rainpaw (talk!)  18:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Cinderpaw's cool. She'd be better than a lot of other cats. Hmmm that might be a lot of destiny for one soul though. Gets born all feisty, breaks a leg, becomes medicine cat, dies, gets reincarnated all feisty again, becomes deputy then leader. I guess that's why she's such an awesome character. Yah, I really can't think of anyone better right now, but I can't see her as leader somehow. But i guess I couldn't picture Cinderpaw 1 as med cat either when she was first introduced. Eaglebranch 01:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

WOW- I'm happy about all the wonderful ideas that we've come up with! Great job all! AND i'm now a believer of the Cinderstar Theory! :D Horray! -ThunderClan14 03:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)-

These are all great ideas but I'm afraid I just can't believe them. Think about it. All three series of the books have followred Firestar or his descendants. The next leader of ThunderClan is probably going to be Brambleclaw, Lionpaw or Hollypaw. Cinderpaw IS a great character but to me she just doesn't seem to be leader material. Even IF she grows up to be a GREAT warrior it won't mean she'll become leader, or even deputy for that matter. It's up to the current leader who his/her deputy is going to be and it's unlikely that they'd choose an unexperienced cat. Most likely they'd choose either one of the senior warriors or the younger, but more experienced, warriors such as Birchfall. Aurorastar 14:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

But by the time Firetstar dies, Cinder**** will be an experienced warrior. And we're not saying the books will focus on Cinderpaw, we just think she'll become leader. She's not that much of a side character. -- Rainpaw (talk!)  18:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, and just a side-note, if Onestar and/or Ashfoot dies, don't you think Crowfeather would make a good deputy (yes, I know I get off topic a lot)?-- Rainpaw (talk!)  18:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, Rainpaw, your off-topic point seems likely. But, these cats are not going to randomly die in Eclipse. The young cats will have time to get older. Breezestar in WindClan, maybe? *  swifty  *  16:58, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd probablly burn all of my Warriors books if Breezepaw became leader. I'll admit, there  are other cats ready to become leader besides Cinderpaw, but she comes across to me as having more to do with the plot than when she was Cinderpelt. Hmmm, here's a thought, Firestar dies and Bramblestar makes either Lionwhatever or Hollywhatever deputy because of their powers.  Then something happens to Bramblestar and he dies really quickly like his dad (all nine lives at once).  Then Lionpaw or Hollypaw become leader.  Man that sounded better in my head. The only problem I can think of with this one is that it's too predictable.  Eaglebranch 19:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

This is soooooo off topic but does anyone know what Hoolypaw and Lionpaw's Warrior names will be?

--Shadowstream101 17:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, from what I know, no. Only Jaypaw's was released. --Amberleaf 19:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)