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Kittypet Blanks - For Approval
Pose is from a reference, I can show it if need be. 20:10 Wed Jan 2

Sun these are absolutely astounding! Could you add either a tag or bell to the collar? There’s usually one. :) 20:16, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Soooo cute! Can you move the collar a little bit down the neck? It kinda looks like it's choking them right now.. ^^' Also, the forearm closest to us looks overly thick. 23:22, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

woah!! love everyhting on this charart, i cant wait to see the next one. Starclanwilldarkme2 (talk) 00:16, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

This is amazing, Sun! Could you possibly make that <-- front leg a bit longer to match the length of the other? It seems a bit shorter. 03:28, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you also thicken the lineart on the hind paws just a bit? 03:56, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

The front paw facing us feels a bit too chubby compared to the rest of the legs. Also, while I do understand what you're going for with the lil fatty fluff on the haunch to define the tummy, it looks a bit off. Plump cats don't really have their fat protruding past their haunch, and with them laying down like this, the fat would go lower to touch the ground bc of gravity. These are super cute ;; I adore the toe beans so so much!! —​​​​​

Could be my personal preferences, but could you make the long haired's fur less.. spiky and give it more variation?

Hi Sun! You don’t have a limit like other art and take the time you need, but I just wanted to confirm that you’re still working? :) 17:42, January 8, 2019 (UTC)

I am! I'm just trying to enjoy my last week of break before the semester! I'll upload soon! 18:46 Tue Jan 8

I love it! If it dosent get aproved here, my wiki, Complete Warriors Wiki needs some. :) -Texaswild

No real rush, Sun, but this is just a bump in case you've gotten busy and forgotten about the blanks. (and also a reminder that they're still here in case anyone needs to comment) ​​​​​​

--> this eye should be moved slightly or expanded in size.Potato Flakin (talk) 22:28, January 16, 2019 (UTC)​

Reuploaded This semester is gonna be hell. 17:20 Mon Jan 21

What's going on with the lines here on the short-furred blank? Slightly confused, and I assume it's just an oversight? ​​​

On both, could you thicken the lineart on the bottomside of the... I guess it'd be the wrist(?) of the > front leg?

The collars need to be moved down, they look like they're chokingPotato&#61;) (talk) 20:51, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Woah what the hell happened to that...I'll check my layers in a little while. No clue why it did that. 23:21 Mon Jan 21

Um <-- this front leg on the longhair is thicker than said leg on shorthair, and the --> this eye's lineart on the longhair is thinner than the lineart of the shorthair's eyePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:11, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

Make the <-- front leg a bit longer.

12:33, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I will do the leg in a minute. 17:56 Tue Jan 29

Reuploaded 18:26 Tue Jan 29

There is some white waste outside the left (our left) paw/arm. On the longhair only. 19:25, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the line at the base of the tails shouldn't be there??? I had something similar on Briarlight's warrior when I had to tweak the blank, and got told to remove said line. ​​

I agree with you Jayce, that shouldn't be therePotato&#61;) (talk) 22:54, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The tail lineart on the < side on the shorthair could be smoothed out some^^

Could you by any chance thicken the collar on the shorthair by a point, or if not maybe smooth the lines? It looks a bit strange in comparison to the rest of the lineart. SquidwardPlays 04:07, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

extremely minor, but could you smoothen out the linearart on the ear? it looks slightly rough. 10:37, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for double comment, but I did notice that the lineart on the base of the shorthaired’s chest is thicker than that on the long

The shorthair's collar looks like it's not attached to the pelt, can you fix thatPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:02, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Feathertail (Apprentice Alt 2) ~ For Approval
I'm absolutely proud :) All colours from the alt star. Comments? CloudymoonTheCat

You should be proud! Define the shading on the tail and paws? 18:33, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth shading a little on the shoulder back and haunch, add some to the forelegs and hindlegs farthest from us and soften the stripes, maybe add a handful more if you're able. This is very good! SquidwardPlays 18:47, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smoothen the stripes some too? 18:51, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Screams bc I keep forgetting to mention things. Sharpen the gold on the shoulder and foreleg a little, and there's waste between the whiskers. SquidwardPlays 18:52, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Is it better? CloudymoonTheCat

<-- this hind leg needs more white, there's a lot on the warrior alt. Also friendly reminder to upload under File:Feathertail.apprentice.alt2.png. It was misspelled earlier (it's fixed now)Potato Flakin (talk) 23:15, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm and the stripe placement would end up matching the warrior, as would everything else to it, since the warrior's the first in the set. Would you mind adding some white/very pale gray hairs up into the earpink, to match the set? I also think there'd be more, but thinner, stripes on the tail. You're doing excellent with this, by the way

Could you define/add some more stripes on the front paw furthest from us and the back paw furthest from us? And add some cream to the hind paw furthest from us too. 03:25, January 10, 2019 (UTC)

Nice image overall. I'll promote you into an apprentice.

Reups CloudymoonTheCat

Could you maybe blur the white a little bit on her right front paw? -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝    𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣    𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~     𝕚'𝕞 𝕠𝕟 𝕒 𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~   [ 13:42, 1/10/2019 ]

Sure, I'll do it when I'll come home :) CloudymoonTheCat

Reups :) CloudymoonTheCat

Could you define the shading overall, especially on the gray? 22:03, January 10, 2019 (UTC)

I do think there'd need to be more visible pale parts on the belly and haunch, alt. warrior seems to have them, and that's first in set

Reups any better? CloudymoonTheCat

Also I'm not going to be able to work on it till tomorrow morning (UTC time) <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat

The shading seems blotchy, for a lack of a better word. It seems to be darker in places and non-existent where it should be (for example the legs). It's also overblurred in places.

Reupsss <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat

Can you darken the shading on the forelegs please. 13:00, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light source on the inside hind leg. Your doing great! ^^ 13:57, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat

Can you define the shading depth on all the legs? I think the stripes on the face need to be connected to the eyes too. Might be my eyes, but there appears to be leaky shading on the back. On the hind leg closest to us, maybe move the white so it's against the line art of the haunch? it looks a little off in the middle like it is. It also appears less soft on the warrior. You've done a great job on this so far!! 21:23, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reups :) <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat

The base looks a bit too light, could you darken it a bit? Sharpen the white too. 01:03, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes a bit to match the roughness the ones on the other images have, if you would

On the front paws, the white doesn't match the placement portrayed on the star, and it's leaking a bit. —​​​​

Reups --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat 08:16, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Can you sharpen the white a bit more? might be my eyes, but it looks like it hasn't changed at all. 16:44, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, any specific places it should be sharpened? --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat 20:26, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

For reference. The red is where the white should be on the paw if you're following the star's pattern of having white underarms, blue is where the white is leaking, and green is where the white needs to be sharpened. —​​​​

Ok, thanks! --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat 10:50, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Reups yep yep :) --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat 12:35, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

We should hardly be able to see white on the shoulder looking at the other alts, and there's too much white on <- side of the haunch. you're getting there! <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 14:57, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Reups --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat 16:12, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the hind paw furthest from us? 13:17, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I'll do it when my brother will give me the computer --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 20:23, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded--<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 09:20, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 04:51, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think the stripes should be sharpened, and the shading on the -> front leg should be defined. There should be shading on the face and remove some of the shading on all the paws so they don't look so gray.

Reups --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 11:48, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

The blob of white on the hindleg closest to us looks off and I believe still that the shoulder white should be lessened to just barely be visible upon looking at her other two TUG alts. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 17:30, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean about the hind leg... Should I sharpen the white or remove it? --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 19:34, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

Remove. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 19:59, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the > back white paw, as well

Reups There you go --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 11:40, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

Define it again? It still looks very flat

Reups I accidently thought you meant the back paw farthest from us before... --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 16:25, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

The highlights are making the base color look way lighter than the alt star. The stripes also look like they've been run through a sharpen filter or something, making them look strangle pixelated. And the shading, especially on the back and head, is so dark the pattern and coloring is getting lost. Where's your light source coming from?

It's coming from the top right, though when I started this I wasn't sure what a light source is, so I might have to fix some of the shading :/ --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat  08:20, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Reups I hope it's not too dark now --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat  17:42, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

I know you were just told to lighten it, but could you define the shading depth on all the legs and paws (excluding the hind one closer to us, that looks good) on the front leg closest to us it looks like it's coming from the front of the body, but given the rest of the placement, it should be on the back of the leg. This is turning out great! 14:39, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Thank you Patch! :) --  Cloudymoon      cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    17:52, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

hmm doesn't appear you reuploaded? 01:16, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry my bad, I'll actually reupload when I'll come home. --  Cloudymoon      cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    07:26, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Reups --  Cloudymoon      cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    13:23, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Great job. Comments before approval? 21:22, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

The shading's still too dark in some places, most noticeably the top of the head, back, and the whole tail. It makes the pattern gets lost and makes the base color seem darker than it should be. Your shading doesn't seem to match the light source If the light source is coming from the top right, the top of the head should have very little shading on it, but it's one of the darkest points currently. The chest and legs also look like they're lit from the left, not the right. The tail and the front leg closest to us also look flat because the shading is overblurred there, the light needs to be more defined.

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean, could you possibly redline? --  Cloudymoon      cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    08:18, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, but what exactly were you wanting a redline of? The shading locations, or just circling the areas I'm talking about? Would it be ok if I sent it to you in discord?

Leader Blanks - For Approval
Uploading on my personal for now since its easier to work with. I plan on fluffing up the longhaired tail...which as I look at my cats the tails are slightly too long and I'll fix that next upload as well. <span style="">16:54 Sun Jan 20 2019

Cool! Can you shrink the ears by the smallest amount and make em more pointy? I love this BreezeyPotato&#61;) (talk) 17:46, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add whiskers? :) 18:14, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

I'd think Breezey would add the whiskers once everything else is all said and done, mainly because that seems like the least important thing, compared to making sure the anatomy and whatnot (read: floof) is correct. =P ​​​​​​​​

The shorthair's tail is a bit lumpy, could you make it more consistent in width? It's mostly where the tail curls Eggheart (talk) 22:07, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

I think the tails could be shortened a tad, it might be just me but they seem pretty long. 22:12, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

im gonna be the one who says it fluff those longhair tails up lul 22:19, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Can you make the lineart around the eyes more even? 22:20, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the lineart on the longhair's chest furPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:44, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Make the eyes a bit rounder. 03:12, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Paws look big for the legs, and make the jaws evenPotato&#61;) (talk) 02:57, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

Paws look fine to me Malina457 (talk) 17:43, January 23, 2019 (UTC)malina

The ears look a bit big for a “standard” kitty. Maybe shrink them a wee bit. Seems more like an oriental build when looking at those ears anatomy wise. ​​​​​​ <span style="">21:24, 01/23/2019

Please read comments before and my own before commenting. <span style="">2:07 Thu Jan 24 2019

I'm not 100% sure that was necessary, Breezey. There's a lot of comments on this and it's possible other comments hadn't been seen. ​​​​​​

Oop didnt see the ear comment before mine. But taking a second look, the faces (at least on the shorthair) cpuld be rounded out a tiny bit more ​​​​ <span style="">17:54, 01/24/2019

No rush, you have all the time you need, but are you still working? 08:57, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah. Just not happy with the edits I did yet. Hopefully I'll have them up this weekend. <span style="">2:41 Thu Jan 31 2019

Tigerstar (TPB) (Alt. DF) ~ For Approval
Comments? 04:07, January 24, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the shading on the white?

Can you taper the scars just a bit more? 13:12, January 24, 2019 (UTC)

Define the paw pad color and it doesn't appear his mouth is filled inPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:45, January 24, 2019 (UTC)

The paw pad color looks fine to me, I can see it. 04:31, January 25, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:38, January 25, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the nosePotato&#61;) (talk) 00:28, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

...There's nothing to fill in. 00:36, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

The nose looks fine imo 00:51, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

I actually concur with Potato; there's a little 1x1x1 pixel where the nose is, and it appears white. 04:07, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

The shading on the white belly could be smoothed a bit more imo, still sharpish

Could you possibly change the scars placement to match his regular DF ? --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     Cats   <span style="" title="Just joking ;)">  Forever    19:09, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

I think scar placement on alts doesn't matter, unless that's falsePotato&#61;) (talk) 20:25, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I really don't think that's the nose, just part of his upper lip. I'm pretty sure scar placement doesn't need to match on an alt; there are other alts (IE Yellowfang) whose scars don't match the main images. I blurred the shading, however, I think what people are seeing as shading is actually a scar. 20:49, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Last I knew, scar placement didn't need to match... as long as the scars are there, I really don't see an issue with them not matching.

could you make the belly scar... blend more naturally in? it doesn't look like a scar

Lighten the shading on the white a bit? 14:09, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

I think all of the scars could use some blending/sharpening, imo. They look a bit more like pink stripes than scars to me. 14:11, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 22:26, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

can you smoothen out the white on the belly a little? <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 02:17, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:23, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Do you think you could curve the scars a tad to make them look more realistic? 08:58, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Poppyfrost (Alt Q) - For Approval
Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 02:37, January 25, 2019 (UTC)

Earpink is two-toned in -> this ear, make it one color and define shading on legs and facePotato&#61;) (talk) 03:28, January 25, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smoothen the shading and define eye depth? 04:35, January 25, 2019 (UTC)

All ginger, whether it be in patch form or all over the pelt, should have stripes^^

re-ups Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 18:27, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

could you give the stripes more variation and curve?

Smudge out the patches and the stripes a bit more. —

Still working? 00:35, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Spikefur (Star) ~ For Approval
whoo, finally finished this in like an hour lmao I got all colors from the apprentice, as well as the spike style. He looks like my grandpa lol 04:25, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Glad he has the cite now lol. Define facial shading Potato&#61;) (talk) 04:49, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups, it's at 100 now. 05:24, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. Also, if you get asked to define the shading, you can always create extra layers of shading to define it. ​

Andd.. I'm going to ask to define the shading and add more depth to it. 12:39, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups, hopefully the depth is better, Ari. If not mind giving me a redline of where the depth needs defined. 08:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The depth is good, but it still needs smoothing out. The edges should be a bit more of a gradient, and this is fairly blotchy.

Warrior blanks ~ For Approval
19:15, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Love these! The head looks a bit off though. Sorry if you don't understand this but it's hard to explain: Try connecting the <-- line from the head to the body. Then make the <-- side of the muzzle curve upward a bit and the chin protrude from that line. Basically shapen the muzzle/face a little more. Here's a red line 19:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Obligatory redline from me. —​​​

The short-haired’s tail is very uneven and almost looks crooked. Please make the entire tail even and smooth. 20:00, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Longhair's back foot is a little chubby, and the noses should be expanded in size a tad *looks at cat for reference*Potato&#61;) (talk) 20:27, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. will update longhair shortly, can't now because my latop is about to die and i don't feel like walking to get the charger. 20:31, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

There are some random lines on the shorthair's head that don't make sense, and there's waste outside --> this ear on said blankPotato&#61;) (talk) 21:41, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Could you specify which lines? Not sure if you are heading about the whiskers over the eyes. It's a preference of mine but i can remove them if necessary. 22:13, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

The lines coming off the ears. I can send a perfect screenie if needed. Now on to homework lolPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Those are whiskers. —

(Apologies for double comment; just got on my pc LOL) Here's a redline for the face. I don't necessarily think the perspective would change the level of the eyes, and I think they should be leveled out to be on the same line. Also, the muzzle needs to be a bit more rounded ish? Something like this maybe. When sketching cat heads, this is always what I do so maybe that'll help level out the head. —

Minor, but could you add a line on the shorthair going down the chest to represent the little floof of hair on the center of their chest. 22:51, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. happier with the long hairs fur now. 00:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Make them a bit bigger. 00:28, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the line for the right cheek down closer to the nose? —

Re-uploaded. noticed the back didn't match. 00:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. tweaking the longhair shortly. 00:53, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the short haired's linear art too thick?

Yeah the lineart should only be about 2 pixels thick i believe ​​​​ <span style="">01:34, 01/28/2019

I don't think there's a specific ruling for lineart thickness, but compared to the longhairs fluff it may look thicker. I personally think it's fine tho. —

Just me, but it looks like the shorthair is larger?? Malina457 (talk) 03:33, January 28, 2019 (UTC)malina

The shorthair is larger, I haven't updated the longhair's size yet. 04:25, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

The thickness should be consistent across the long haired and the short haired, at least. I still think the short haired linear art is too thick.

Re-uploaded. that was a nightmare... all the lineart or are there any particular spots that are too thick? 05:22, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. found a few spots i thought i had fixed on the shorthair. 05:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

dunno how to exacty word it but the muzzle looks too centered for the angle of the face. something's just a bit off about it. 09:16, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps shorten/erase the muzzle lines to make the style more consistent with the other blanks? Also, I think the linear art is too thick on the short haired, especially on the back.

I feel like adding a shoulder on each blank would be beneficial. The backs seem kind of flat without them. 14:13, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Here's a reference for the muzzle. I think it's fine to have them stylized like what Patch is going for. Our blanks have a wide variety of styles and the StarClan blanks had the same issue of "match the blank styles" and in the end that got overruled. I think they just need some anatomy fixes but the style is fine. —

Re-uploaded. 02:05, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded again. 03:32, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the right cheek line down to the nose? Looking good. —

these are look amazing! the only thing i see is that the 'catbrows' make them look a bit angry, could you fix that? 12:36, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I can't tell if they still look angry, but hopefully this is better. 15:55, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The shorthairs tail could be thinned a bit. looks too chub to me for a tail <span style="">17:44, 01/29/2019

Re-uploaded. 18:01, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I'm now asking this for a 5th time since my comment on this seems to keep getting ignored: can you please move the line that indicates the --> cheek down to align with the nose? —

Re-uploaded. looking back at your comments; didn't see it the first time, second time i misunderstood what you meant, i'm sorry if it seemed like i was ignoring you. Is this what you meant? 21:34, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

All good o/ This is what I mean, cheeks on a cat generally start protruding after the nose, kinda like this guy. (Though he is a bit chubby) —

They still look angry, change the position of the head whiskersPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:56, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The head whiskers are honestly fine... I'm not sure why the expression seems to be an issue. ​

Re-uploaded. ah ok i see i was being stupid, don't mind me lmao. 01:06, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

This is super nitpicky, but maybe fill in the space between the hind foot and the shoulder to front arm in with white? Only since there should be acknowledgement to the other haunch and foot that we can't see, but I don't know if that's 100% necessary. —

The line for the shoulder should be able to connect to the elbow, if that makes any sense - or the elbow should curve outwards. Also, the fluff on the haunch starting there protruding looks somewhat off on the longhair. Could you maybe add some tufts of fur above? 08:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

The muzzles still seem a bit off... I'm unsure if it's a neglect of a perspective but it keeps not looking right to me. It may be easier if you center the face rather than having them facing away, since the way it looks right now, it's as if you drew the muzzle in the center of the face, moved it over, then added lines to connect it to the side of the face, is the only way I can describe it bluntly. —

could yo make it so that the fur on the long haired blank's back doesn't appear so... suddenly? like maybe have a more visible transition 10:38, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I fixed these problems but i don't know if I'll be able to reupload today because my laptop is being annoying. I didn't touch the muzzles though, I'd rather not mess with them anymore then i have. Call me bias for working on the blank, but i really dont see it necessary and think they look fine.

16:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I think the muzzles are fine as they are. These blanks are beautiful I can’t wait to use them! <span style="">16:20, 01/30/2019

Sorry, but I agree with Echo about the muzzle. The perspective seems incorrect and they still look a tad off. 16:18, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Not to be nitpicky, but these are the warrior blanks. We're going to be making over 600 images with them. The muzzle may look fine to you and its "unnecessary" to change them, but these images are literally going to become wwiki's staple and that's why I've been so particular with your anatomy. I've studied cat anatomy for years and I'm trying to use my knowledge to help you since this blank is literally going to become wwiki's namesake, just as the last blanks were. Everh critique is necessary. —

I'm quite aware of that, but I don't agree with you on the muzzle and I would appreciate a few more opinions on it. 18:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to quickly slip in to state that I agree with Echo on the muzzles, and that i also think the ear lineart could use a tad smoothing while i'm at it. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 18:35, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

To add onto my critique, you blanks have their face at a 3/4ths position, meaning the right cheek and eyes will be more defined than the left eye and cheeks. Here's a redline of a real life example of a cat at that angle. The face should flow together, not in a perfect circle, and I think the face shape, eyes and muzzle are whats throwing off the perspective and proportions. —

hmm. it was always meant to be somewhat offcenter, from the first sketches I'd had. not negating anything just pointing out the concept for this, and it's changed a lot since those early stages, but y'know

I think the position of the head shouldn't be changed (it should still face away from the center because that's part of the pose), but the muzzle could use some tweaking.

Crowfrost (Alt Star) ~ CBA
14:27, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading? Vec, I love this Malina457 (talk) 16:20, January 28, 2019 (UTC)malina

Reups ^^ 23:55, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this had to be done on the others but the eye color doesn't match those from his other images. 09:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It's the eye color I used for his alt deputy, and he doesn't have a cited eye color. I figured I could just pick one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But if that's a problem, I can always change it. 13:15, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I was primarily saying that as on all the alts I've seen and done, I've been told to match the eye color of the other sets. I just figured it'd save a comment for down the road. It's all good if it doesn't have to be done. 13:20, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Hm I mean yeah they generally should match iirc. Probably should switch it on the others in this set too, but that’s kinda a quick thing

Reups Ehhhhh...I think the other eyes are amber? I can't really tell. Totally copying and pasting those blue eyes for later tho 17:40, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Littlecloud (Alt MC) ~ CBA


Define leg shading, light on leafs, and earpink in --> earPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:27, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

shrink the white on the legs, and there is the palle bit on the ears.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 23:09, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Expand the earpink in --> this ear a littlePotato&#61;) (talk) 23:15, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded the white on the legs does match the other images in placement; i've the file and also matches the alt kit not in use. also, there wouldn't be pale in the ears

Could you add some light to <--- ear? 23:33, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

can you lighten the shading on the face? it dosent match, and can you add some light on the right ront leg/paw?<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 23:55, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

and there are only ment to be 4 tail stripes<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:04, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded per alt kit, there would be five on this side of the tail, which isn't the same as the alt app. tucked it a bit further down for consistency, but it'd be there.

okay, just when I was doing this, somone told me 4 stripes, on the back 2 legs, the white should be on the other side of the leg.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:56, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The white's in the right spot; I have the files for the alt set. The master pattern has it just on the underside, which due to this blank, is just like the alt kit.

on the right leg, the white is on the top of the leg, think about it, and its positioning, think of if you were looking at it from the front. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:09, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Right, it goes all the way to the top. The < side of the shoulder is hidden on the apprentice blank, and thus can be white and match. It again, is the same case as the alt kit.

well, I cant change how you think, so I shouldnt waste my time trying. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 02:03, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

That seemed a bit rude but okay. This is great, could you add some shading to the <-- left side of the chest. I feel like there should be some there from what your source is. 09:02, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

I actually agree with the white needing to be moved on the --> back leg. The current placement would mean it's on the front of the leg, which doesn't match the other alts that have it on the back of the leg. The <-- leg seems fine though.

Reuploaded Ah. On the back leg, yeah I see what you mean

Comments before approval? 21:18, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

rip cba, but the shading on the tail is difrent than the rest.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 22:35, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm. It's all on the same layer with the same settings/tint and such. If you could specify what about it is different that might be more helpful, so I know what to fix, as I can verify that the transparency, shade, and smudging are consistent through.

Reuploaded Shifted the tail stripes down a bit, didn't touch the shading for now, checked again that it's all the same.

I don't see anything wrong with shading.. sorry OwlbitePotato&#61;) (talk) 23:49, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Re-CBA? 00:24, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

The tail shading, can you define it? Look at it with the rest of the shading. It is not as dark. <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 16:28, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

For now, I’ll not change it, since others have said it’s fine; might be a coloration difference between devices perhaps, but as I’d said it’s the same.

Dawncloud  (Q alt)~For approval
I alwaays thought Dawncloud was dark brown! so her not being the right color makes sence to me!<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 23:38, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading, and the eye depth. 23:55, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, oof, dose the earpink look blue? is it just me?<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:02, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It's pretty gray, pinken it up a bit! Besides that, could you define the shading on the belly and tail? Eggheart (talk) 00:14, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, Ima re-do the stripes, I dont like them.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:38, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, stripes look better, still dont like them tho.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:50, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Define lightsource, earpink is two-toned in --> this ear, make it one color, and the shading should have some depthPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, now I like the stripes! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:05, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't appear you changed anything, it's still the same image as beforePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:12, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, oof, that is what I think half the time, I made it more noticable.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:16, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The earpink color confuses me, is it gray or pink, and the shading looks.. idk what to say, maybe flatPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:27, January 29, 2019 (UTC)]]

The ear pink looks fine imo. Some ear pinks on other chararts are grayish in color, and this color works fine with the pelt. Owlbite already did what you asked them to do, Potato. I do think the stripes are nice but could be tapered off at the ends a bit. 01:49, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, I had a blue shading tint... oof... <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:55, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

This looks great. But on the front left paw is the darker spot supposed to be there? 02:46, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Right paw, I mean, closest to us. 02:46, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, no, it wasnt, I messed up on stripes... <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 02:54, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It is still there. Would you like me to circle it? 03:08, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, if it is still there, than yes. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 03:13, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Right here. It may be my screen, though. 03:22, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It might just be you, I see it in that, but not on the image.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 04:33, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Earpink leaking until the first pair of whiskers? --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    07:37, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I can see what Icy means, I'm seeing it too so it might not be her computer. 09:03, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe desaturate the highlights a bit? They look kind of neon as they are right now. 13:52, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

the earpink... on the --> ear it is, on the other, it is just shading.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:11, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

There's also leaking shading on the belly, and I think on front --> paw. With the paw, I'm not 100% if that's part of your style or not, and if it is, please disregard me. ​​​

Re-up, the belly was leeking, the paw was my style.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 15:29, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Possibly desaturate the shading a bit? It looks too bright to me (not sure how else to describe it, also might just be me) define the overall depth as well? You've improved a lot and have done a great job with this image, keep it up!

00:30, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Waste on top of the head, screenies can be providedPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:43, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Rising Storm Silver Queen ~ CBA


Would you mind defining the shading on the tail tip, and the depth of it on the paws?

Re-uploaded

It might just be me but the --> ear lineart looks blurry? 03:26, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

It's not. It's the shading

Could you smooth it so it doesn't so blurry please. 04:08, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded

Smooth out the shading (everywhere but the tail and the face) just a bit?

Re-uploaded

Can you smooth the (white, I’m assuming) where it connects the > front leg and the chest? Is a bit sharp there

Re-uploaded Better? Also, that's not white, it's pale. (though hard to tell given that the base is a near white color)

Could you darken the color just a pinch? Looks a bit too close to textured white rather than silver right now.

Re-uploaded Hesitant to darken it more because I like this color. I dulled the highlights if that helps

Hmm. I meant this spot just where the leg meets the chest; still seems a tad sharp

Re-uploaded

Cool yup. CBA?

Dawncloud (Alt Star) ~ For Approval
Yes I know the pattern is different, I had already finished this a couple days ago but didn't post it. I'll reupload when I get the chance.

Do you have to match owl's pattern or? (Not a big fan of her's but still) Malina457 (talk) 02:50, January 29, 2019 (UTC)malina

Malina, that is rude to say that you do not like her pattern. Star also said that she would be reuploading to match the pattern. 02:52, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The have to match the first put up. 02:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Was just my tired opinion, I did apologize to them Malina457 (talk) 03:15, January 29, 2019 (UTC)malina

can you lighten the eyes? they are on alkl the other images, a light blue.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:09, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I believe eye color does not matter on alts (see Crowfrost's alts)Potato&#61;) (talk) 00:16, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

imo they should match the main images. There's no reason why they shouldn't.

Eye colour shouldn't deviate from the written description in my opinion. I don't typically match my eye colour when doing alts, but I try to stick to whatever is cited. In this case, since she has no cited eye colour I think this colour would be okay, but lightening it couldn't hurt since they do look really dark. And regardless, they should match Owlbite's queen, so if Owlbite's queen has lighter eyes, they should match that since they're in the same set. —

Black and white queen (ITW) - CBA
06:15, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

could you define the shading? 06:18, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 06:32, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth the shading on the tail and <--- front leg? 19:43, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Mind if I smooth it on both front legs? 23:13, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Go ahead ^^ 01:12, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I also lightened the shading on the chest. 08:38, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Some things: with this source, I think the shading would reach higher up the arm to the 'shoulder'ish part of the blank, if you get what I mean. The belly white is leaking a bit outside it here, and there's also a pixel there that would need to be filled with white. The shading on the chest could stand to have a smidge more depth, and be smoothed on the top part of the tail, < front leg, and a bit more on the belly (ik it's hell to smooth on black cats, but)

Re-uploaded: Is this better? 20:55, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Yup. CBA?

Tortoiseshell Queen (RC, OS-1) - For Approval
lol what is art anymore <span style="">16:54, 01/29/2019

Honestly, this is great! I really love the pattern and the shading here. However, at least on my screen, the ginger patches look really bright red. I personally think it would be better if they looked more pale and orange like a classic tortie, but if nobody else agrees, then that's fine! 19:01, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah they look kinda red on my phone but they looked fine on my laptop. I’ll reup in a few minutes <span style="">19:30, 01/29/2019

Reup thank u hawk <span style="">19:43, 01/29/2019

Maybe smudge the patches a bit more? Oof this is so cute ;; —

This is really good. Can you define the earpink? 08:39, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

renamed this to File:OS-1.queen-5.png due to naming conventions, if you could continue uploading under that^^

Will do, thanks! I didnt upload the original so wasnt sure about the file name. Will reup shortly <span style="">22:38, 01/30/2019

Feathertail (Alt TOEH) - For Approval
I don't know how I feel about this one. Everything from the alt warrior. <span style="">18:29 Tue Jan 29

Define/add shading on the white part of the tail? I'm not seeing any at all. ​

The stripes coming from the inner part of the haunch look odd compared to the rest of the stripes, which are much smoother. 19:02, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the forearm, and I think there's shading leaking on the ear furthest from us? 19:42, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

This pattern is great :3 I do think the shading on the belly with this source would be a touch darker

Tortoiseshell cat (Star) - CBA
I am not changing this. (meaning pattern placement and colors) Spooky was so nice to tell me that there's a tortie SC cat in Twilight. ​​

What a fab-u-lous design! ^^ Can you define the shading slightly in the --> ear? 19:41, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. This pattern is still one of my very best, and no lie, I'm insanely proud of it. ​

Waste in the tail loopPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:13, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. That waste was not on any of my layers, but alright then. If it's still there later, it'll stay there since I can't get rid of what is physically not in my file.

Yeah I think it’s still there, but it’s such a faint colour it doesn’t really matter. Weird! 04:00, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Still there as Winter said, but we can just nuke it after CBA. —

well, speaking of CBAs, this is pretty so how about we do one

Jake (Alt Loner) - For Approval
Henlo it me. as usual. Eye color should match the main Loner/Rogue images, all colors colopicked off a screenshot of his family tree icon excluding stripes since I believe this counts as ginger? I like the pattern I did on here. I think the shading might be a little faint but I'll fix that next upload if someone else thinks so too. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 22:11, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Collar tag needs shading and the pupil is missing Potato&#61;) (talk) 22:59, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The collar tag does have some shading on it, if you want me to define it then go ahead and say so. And the pupil is not missing. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 23:00, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Stunning as always! I do think the collar shading could be defined a bit more. ^^ —

Can you smooth out the inner pale part on the <--- hind leg? 01:11, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading; it looks great. 02:03, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Reups TY~ <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 03:12, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the collarPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:31, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm define the shading on the > ear, and the light on the tail and outstretched front leg

Reups <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 20:33, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail, lovely job! 00:32, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Tabby rogue (Ro) - For Approval
Oh no Hawkey, another experimental style? xD 16:17, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

It turned out good. Can you define the earpink? 16:20, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. The two stripes on the face, as well as the three on the haunch, slightly fall into issue with the triangle tabby thing. Could you try tweaking them slightly to not be so? Small touches would do it

Might I ask for an example of a "triangle tabby" so I can change my stripes appropriately? I think this may have been implemented before I came back, so I'm not really sure what those stripes would look like. ^^ 21:32, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. For lack of better examples since this was way before my time, two of the ones i can remember are this and this. so yours would be pretty easily solved for the haunch ones if for example they visibly reached all the way to the < side of the haunch, or if they tapered or curled differently as to not be that triangleish shape, and same with the facial ones, though that's one of many ways to tackle it

Kit Blanks - For Approval
Sorry for the delay. I made some small tweaks since I posted it on the vote. I might go back in and tweak the haunch of the longhair if it turns out to look off without the tail (since it'll need to be shown for characters like Berrynose).

<-- this ear's lineart is different on both imagesPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:18, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

I think that's because of the tufts on the longhair. Regardless, can you round out the short hair's tail a bit more? They don't look like a cat's tail. —

Could you make them a bit larger? :) Also, this is more just personal choice, but I asked a few others: would you be alright with removing the pupil lineart? I looove making the eyes and I think some people don’t like to be restricted to one type. :) 03:51, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I thickened the tail tip a bit, but kitten tail tips are a lot thinner and pointier at the tip than grown cats, so this is about as far as I wanna go. I'd rather not make the blanks larger. They were sized according to the apprentice blanks, and they're also nearly as big as the starclan and rogue blanks. I'd like these to be at least somewhat smaller than the adult blanks since they're supposed to be babies.

The primary reason we're redoing the blanks is due to the size, so I can understand (and agree with) making them a tiny bit bigger since that's what people are primarily thinking about. Maybe a by a couple pixels. —

They were already made significantly bigger than the original kit blanks though. And since they're about the same size as the apprentices, there shouldn't be any issue with them being too small unless people think those blanks (and the starclan and rogue...) are too small as well.

I think the size is fine.

If size is that much of a concern, then we should really revisit the DF blanks. The size for these is perfectly fine and considerably larger than the old kit blanks. Different pose too, much easier to work with to show the pattern. <span style="">10:49, 01/31/2019

Honestly, the size is fine. 13:22, January 31, 2019 (UTC) Ones yeah i think the size is fine too. 14:07, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Straighten out the bottom line of lineart on the hind leg closest to us and lengthen the front leg a bit (the one closest to us) 15:41, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

I don't have any reference to know if I am right, but should the tail be at the back of it? There is some room in between the tail and the back.<font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 16:26, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Dustpelt (Alt Star) ~ For Approval
how the heck did they make him blue --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    08:06, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

I may be wrong here, but did we agree that family tree alts would get texture? I know some alts aren't supposed to have texture sometimes, so I just wanna ask ;;; —

I don't see why we can't. In graphic novels they are fully depicted without texture so they have to match that. But the icons don't have enough information for us to disallow texture on an image

how did they make him blue im rolling smooth the shading some, i suggest after smudging shading that you use a rlly big brush and blur the edges <span style="">10:53, 01/31/2019

Reups (2times) I forgot the shading on the eye at first so i added it back. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    11:05, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Would you mind adding a little more light on the tailtip, and expanding the shading on the < side of the tail to reach further downwards a bit?

Smooth the shading at the base of the tail 15:42, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Alt Dep.) ~ For Approval
I'm slowly starting to like my tabbies more

15:43, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Define the earpink? I blends in really well with the white. This is really good! ^^ 18:59, January 31, 2019 (UTC)