Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. G B 57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. G B 57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. G B 57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. G B 57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've improved her. How is she? G B 57 21:56, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Great! I don't see anything wrong :D. You did a pretty nice job. Sparrowsong 18:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be less circular and the shading needs to be darkened. --Hallow's Eve 09 21:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Blackclaw. Also, maybe try blurring the stomach-patch just a tad more. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the patch, but the ear pink has already been made less circular. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I see wrong is that darker shading is needed. That's all. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry it's taking so long, guys, but I won't be able to get to this for another week. Believe me, I'll do this when I get the chance. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 03:23, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, re-uploaded. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:26, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

The white part of the pelt needs shading. Once you do that, this should be ready. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 16:33, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I suggest that you use burn highlights on 12(maybe) on the white parts of her body. Thats what I do and it works really well.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:01, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

This has been up since mid-September. This will seem unfair, but I feel that if the image can't be approved in two months, it should be taken down. I'll give you another week to get this approved, GB, but then I'm declining it. -- Bramble -san  01:32, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For approval


(M) - Not much to say about these. First blank I've made where you can see both sides of the face and such, and probably the last blank I'll do for a long time. Will make a colored version over the weekend. (Maybe.) Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute. But their bellies and legs look.. weird. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

A few things though...What i think could be improved  How I would do it..... Feel free to remove this or disregard it if i'm wrong, but its lineart looks a bit odd only in this area. Summary of it: The arm has odd, unnecicary lines, the showing hind leg goes a bit up, or thick, the stomach area is oddly shaped, and the eye is a bit odd... But its fabulous in the rest.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 00:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks a little disproportionate--AutumnSky 02:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made a example and changed up the lineart a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just to let everyone know, I'm still working on these. Please don't decline. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The arm showing looks either too thin or too long, and the showing hind looks to high or thick.<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 01:09, November 3, 2009 (UTC) I really wanna see these improved, so if you need help re-lining them, i made this. And a colored version of my cat, speedy.The colored version looks terrible because i didnt shade it. Dont criticize it...<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploded. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:44, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

This might sound weird... but the stomachs look like kangaroos in that they have a kind of pouch... I think it's the way the lineart seems to overlap. Also, there are a lot of little lines that are kind of unecessary and will make colouring difficult. Try and simplify them a little without losing too much important detail. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 23:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be easier to add ear pink if the line in the ear that is closest to us was taken out, but thats just my opinion. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Well, now I'm sick. Nothing like H1N1 or anything, but my sinuses are all congested. D: Anyways, Snady could you be more specic on the lines that can be taken out and how they look like kangaroos? As for Spottedwing, I was wondering about that. While it makes blurring difficult, the leader blanks have the same kind of lines and they help define where to place the ear pink... what do you guys think? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:48, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you, Moss. Since the leader blanks are like that as well...I personally like the ears as they are, it helps define them better, as you said. Also, I hope you feel better soon! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:51, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Jus forget my comment; they don't look like it anymore. I think my computer was being funny about showing image updates but it seems to be fixed now. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:24, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I think Icethroat is right: keep the lines as it defines the ear shape more. There are some smaller lines such as on the chest that make the image hard to colour though as they get blurred when blurring shading. They also look very... rough so maybe you could try and simplify some of the busier areas of the blanks somewhat - they don't have to be complicated to look good (look at the warrior blanks) and the object is to make them easy to colour. Also, the paw that is lifted, the elbow looks floppy like it has no bone in it. The pose is great though =) These are the best kittypet blanks I think I've seen Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:32, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Fixed fur and got rid of the gray lines on the edges. As for the elbows, I'm not sure how to fix them; any ideas? Just make them pointer? Also, I'm afraid to mess with the fur due to the fact that it took me forever to get it right. Plus, the fur's like my loner blanks, so I'm trying to keep to that style. Anyways, what can I fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Moss, I'm not sure if I can call you tonight, so I'll comment here. On the long-haired's tails, the fur is pointing the wrong direction. It should be falling, but not pointed backwards. Definetely getting better, though. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:09, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Hey guys, I'm going to work on these tomorrow. *sweat drop* Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  00:26, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. I fixed the fur on the tails. Wow, that was mousebrained of me... Anyways, what else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 02:14, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

The elbow looks a little kinda flappy. Maybe stretch it out a little?--Nightfall101 02:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'm not sure about the elbow; as you can see from one of my reference kitties here the elbow's not very long or pointy. Any suggestions on how to fix this so the elbow doesn't look so flappy? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:22, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Aw the kitty looks just like Hawkey. :) And on the elbow, try adding a tuft of fur on the elbow. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 14:34, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Kit-Mother Blanks ~ For Approval


How do you like my suckish artwork? xD Gawd, I need a tablet... The example is better than the blanks: <BR> Comment/Suggestios? (Suggestions OTHER than leaving the drawing to experts? xD)-- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh..my..staclan..THIS IS SO CUTE! I love the way she's staring at you like "I'm not fat!" The only thing I could say is that the head looks, a bit small-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I'll make the head a little bit bigger. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:26, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Heads are bigger by a tad. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

it look a bit odd..what is she doing? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if Apprentices are allowed to critique, and I love the blanks, but there are a few spots that look a bit... out of place. XD The paw near the Kit-Mother's head looks a bit flat, and the tails could be a smidge wider, but that's all I see. (: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 21:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Everyone's aloud to critique. That's part of the learning experience, being able to say what's wrong with a picture. :) Mumble: I agree with Shigura, the paw looks flat, and the tail could be a small bit wider. And also, the tail on the shorthair could maybe brought to the left a little bit, so the bottom of the lineart on the tail is at the same curve as the bottom lineart of the tail on the longhair, giving a curve that makes it more natural. Otherwise, great job, Mumble! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but the muzzle is a little thick, that shouldn't be too hard, methinks. You put queen blanks up a while ago, right? You've really improved ^^.-- Darkhallows 07:34, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The neck looks fat.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darkhollows: Yes, I did. :) I think I tryed a freindly blanks war with melon! xD Thank you! ^-^<BR> Bramble: She's laying down while looking at you. :P Yeah, not very well-thought-out position...<BR> Everyone who offered suggestions: I'll do that. How would I make the paw look less flat? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the paw more curved, like she's trying to swat the air? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 18:14, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - The tip of the short haired looks pointy. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 11:42, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do all of those ASAP, but I'm unable to get on very often since school is eating up my free time. Please do not delete these. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:44, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - XP I meant their tails looked pointy. I guess I forgot to type tails! Oops. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 12:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

lol. I've REUPLOADED the originals, and also have modified and saved two without paws so we can see which is better. I'll do the rouder tails with the next editing section, as well as making a new colored in example. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 00:35, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I like the one without the paw better but, maybe you could change the position of the head a little.-- Ashstar My Clan 03:10, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I like the one without the paw, but maybe make the neck a little thicker, especialy on the long haired one--Nightfall101 04:27, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I personally like the one with the paw, because the one without the paw looks kind of weird, like the cat's paw was cut off or something. But that's just my opinion. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:57, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

kk. I sorta do too. Any other comments before I edit again? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 16:16, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - First, the forelegs are pointing different directions; fix that. Also, maybe you could make the long-haired's leg look furrier? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:12, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the furry leg and non-pointy tail ASAP, but I don't know what you mean by the forlegs look like they're pointing in different dirrections. Can you please clarify? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 20:36, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I have no idea how to do a diagram, but I'll ask Moss later. The longhaired's leg isn't reaching as far. Can anyone who sees it please do a diagram? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:16, November 16, 2009 (UTC)



I just circled where the leg didn't reach as far as the shorthair blank--Nightfall101 00:10, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

(M)- The tails look like they're being held in the air; I made an example for you. (On the example the tails are way too small compared to the body, but you get the picture.) Also, the faces look... I dunno, twisted. Maybe just try moving them around a bit.



Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:49, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Mosswhisker's tail looks better--Nightfall101 22:56, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q)- For Approval
--My first charart. I did the best I could. Comments =) <font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

She is completely white. Don't worry, when I started making charart, I would be that with white cats too. You need to make it a light gray, because if it's totally white, then shading won't work. Do you know how to shade? Because if not I could teach you.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

There's a few blurry sections of Lineart, and the shading should probably be thickened a bit. I can't see anything. XD (But that might be just me) The ear pink should be blurred out, and in a triangle shape. But don't worry, it's pretty good for your first charart! :) Just a suggestion; If you already know this, i'm very, very sorry. But you should go to http://pixlr.com/editor and use that. Using that program you can use the blur tool to blur shading and ear pink (Be careful not to go over lineart, and if you do, just open up paint and go over the black lines with the pencil tool) and you can use the 'Burn' tool to darken parts, etc. Once again, I'm very sorry if you already knew about pixlr. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 15:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura covered it all.-- *Minn owc law*  15:17, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

On the one cheek and behind the ear, it is lighter than the other spots. --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 15:29, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

For shading, use the burn tool. (if you already know this, ignore me), and run it over the back, hind leg, and other places that have shading. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:25, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

Okay, the lines that were blurred are a bit too thick now. And there still isn't any shading. XD (I checked. XP) There should be a few white pixels in the eye, (Look at Ferncloud's eye to see how it should look) And the ear pink should still be more triangular and blurred along the outside. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shistar Mai Talk Page! =) 17:22, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

There are only still some white parts near her face and her ear.-- *Minn owc law*  23:13, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

(S) - Maybe it's me, but the eye looks turquoise. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

hmm... my main problem is that you've now made her so far off-white that she looks pale grey... =/ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:40, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading darker also, and blur the ear pink slightly as it looks like it is now painted on. (ps. please sign with ~ so we can see the timestamp, thanks) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, pretty much what Sandy said. Also, to make her less pale gray, use the dodge tool at about size 70, and the brush that gets lighter out. (Please disregard if you knew this.)-- Mossy SC  22:33, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

re uploaded. I lightened her and darkened the shading. also changed eye color. finally i Blurred the ear pink. please approve this! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

I don't know, she still looks pale gray to me--Nightfall101 23:40, November 10, 2009 (UTC) I dont see anywhere she is pale grey. Except for the shading.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

(S) - I can tell you changed the eye, but maybe make it a darker green, like on her warrior image. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:18, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

I have a few things and although I don't often do them, I've drawn you a diagram (yay!) to help show you what I mean.

Okay: the red circle shows where I don't think you need the shading as it wouldn't go around the whole lineart of the tail. The purple shows where you need to add shading, the blue shows where the lieart is blurred. You also need to blur all the shading into the pelt as it's quite messy. The background needs to be made transparent and the ear pink is too bright (I put a patch of the colour I would recommend next to the ear although there are other colours that can be used on white cats and look good) Hope this helps =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:16, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Darken the belly shading more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:46, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 Darkened the belly shading

Almost there. Just blend the shading and make the ear pink more triangular and she'll be ready, I think. [Note: you don't have to upload under a new file name each time, just choose a name that's something like: Whitewing.queen.png or Whitewing(Q).png or Whitewing_Q.png and reupload over the old one each time instead of having whitewingqueen2, whitewingqueen3 etc. These extra files just clog up the wiki] Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Ok i will get to that. But I tried to upload files on the old image but my changes are not being shown. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Sometimes it takes a few minutes to change. I find that often mine don't change for a couple of days: I'm not quite sure why but it may be something to do with temporary files stored on your computer, or it may just be the wiki being slow. The best person to ask would be Eu. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:16, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 It showed my changees! Anyways I blended the shading and change the ear pink shape. Is it ready?!=)

(M) - Almost. There's a bit of blurred lineart on the tail, and the shading on the belly looks darker than the rest. Also, the ear pink is too bright and needs blurred more. Fix those things and then she should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:52, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I dont see any blurred lineart but i will work on the other stuff later tonight.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

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Soft Paw Blanks- For Approval
, I don't really like them xD.-- Darkhallows 03:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * literally dies of awsomeness* WOW!-- Shad owed  heart  11:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, these look great! Only one thing - the front paws look a bit... round. I know that they're supposed to be tucked in, but could you make a line inside the curve, just so that you can see where the paw is? (Sorry if that didn't make any sense - I can't explain it any better.) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Love the pose! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks you guys. || Is the paw/leg any better?-- Darkhallows 19:06, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

These are really good. The only thing is they each need their own file like the other blanks. -- Ashstar My Clan 21:03, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

The paws still look odd and they look very skinny, try making them fatter.-- *Minn owc law*  01:17, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I don't think they're that skinny. I mean, they're not kittypets! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:26, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

These are good! But maybe you could show part of the tail-tip near the head (if you know what I mean)? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 01:57, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I exist! I don't think that they are too skinny. They are feral, after all. As for the paws? They are a little annoying to play with, so I changed the first one. Better? worse? And I would Blackclaw, but the tail would look way too long then.-- Darkhallows 09:55, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like the other paws better. Perhaps give them a couple of claws or something, or make them slightly less rounded though. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:10, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like the other paws better, like the one on the male longhair (the one on the upper right hand corner). I don't know how you would fix this, but the paws on the shorthairs look odd...like the lineart is thicker or something. Try to make the paws on the shorthairs look more like the paws on the longhairs. Also, as said before, these all need their own file for each, not just one file for all four of them. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:34, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Done. They have their own files, and I will switch it once the 24 hours starts. This is for simplicity of editing.-- Darkhallows 11:51, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I atually think these are ready. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:41, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about these. They just don't look right to me. Their whole anatomy seems not right. Maybe they look better when colored. Would someone mind doing a colored sample? -- Bramble -san  02:35, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

The shading and the image itself isn't very good, and I definitely did not color in the eye right, but here's an example of Dove's Wing: --  Icy  -chan  03:09, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

They do look weird. I played with the longhaired female. Better, worse? It'd help if I knew exactaly what to change.-- Darkhallows 04:13, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I tried to color one too, and it was very difficult--Nightfall101 07:46, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

-facepalm- Would you mind telling which part was hard? It's not much help just saying that is was. I only had trouble on V1's eyes ...

I had no problem coloring and shading the cat. The only part that was troubling was the ears and the eyes, the others were fine. Oh and I colored the background because i had to erase the other 3 cats, and I was bored so I just decided to do the background. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 18:00, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

It was just the eyes and ears--Nightfall101 22:32, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Fair point, Shady. :) Ya gotta tell someone how to make it better or nothing's fixed. Basically, it just looks like the cat is curved too far backwards and the tail and far hind leg look scrunched up and unnatural. It just doesn't look good. If you can, perhaps you can make the blanks more like this model: click (sorry, was the only thing I could find that moderately explained what I was talking about) -- Bramble -san  23:15, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Lightningpelt- For approval
A minor character. Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 00:59, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

The white streak on her back would probably be on the lineart, rather than on the side of the pelt like it is now. Otherwise, great job, Hawkfire! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:26, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I echo Icethroat, and also make the ear pink more of a fine triangular shape, and less of a bright pink color. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦ <font color="Purple">Contribs 01:49, November 9, 2009 (UTC) Awesome! Um I don't really see anything *goes closer* Nope &#91;&#91;User:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;background:silver; color:goldenrod;&quot;&gt;&#39;&#39;&#39;Icestorm&#39;&#39;&#39;&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;sup&gt;&#91;&#91;User Talk:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;How&#39;s the prey running?&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;/sup&gt; 02:02, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Make sure you make it slightly smaller, as we probably wouldn't be able to see it all. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:04, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made the streak on the back, and worked on her stripes and ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 19:05, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

nice work. but now I can hardley see the streak. maybe make it a bit bigger and longer. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Your tabby stripes seem to be blurred. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:56, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 23:11, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Ok the image still looks good. but I can hardly see the ear pink and the streak looks more like a patch now then a streak. But good job <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Graywing-For Approval
All right, since my Shadowstar is taking FOREVER to get comments on it...here's my Quailfeather!-- Mossy SC  22:27, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Great, Mosspath! Thicken the shading and make the highlights brighter, and this should be good. Also, add a highlight on the head, and since this is a longhair, maybe add a highlight on the top of the tail. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:46, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Grr Icethroat. I was just about to say the same thing, but you said it first. <(-_-*)> mad. Just kidding! <(^_^)>. Do as Icey says Mossypath and this should be good. OMG! I just thought of a nick name for you Mosspath! What do you think of (I know it's odd) Mossy P. LOL. <(&_&)>-- *Minn owc law*  23:53, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job Moss!!!do what ice said and add shading to the herbs. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:55, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

I was going to say the same thing as Ice too, minnow. lol ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:56, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

This is one reason why I LOVE the Charart Project. Everyone is so funny! ^.^ KK, I'll get this done soon, I just felt like typing now! -- Mossy SC  21:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded did as everyone said!-- Mossy SC  21:41, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

This is really good, but, I don't think Quailfeather's description was ever mentioned in Code of the Clans. Ignore me if I'm wrong. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 00:24, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Hawktalon. :) I despise false description adders.... Moss, the image won't go to waste; you can use this as Graywing, another gray she-cat who is also a medicine cat. Just darken the color a little bit.(and change the file name) -- Bramble -san  03:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Phew! Thanks Bramble and Hawktalon! I wouldn't want that to go to waste! O.O kk, I will do so.-- Mossy SC  23:38, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Well, I made Graywing from Quailfeather. (It had no eye color on the description so I just kept blue.) -- Mossy SC  23:57, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add a highlight on the head, but make sure you keep the eye color and then fill the eye color back in so it's not five shades too light. :) Also, thicken the shading some, but make sure you don't get it too dark. If it's too dark, then run the highlight tool over it once or so after you thicken the shading and blur it.

One more thing, darken the ear pink. Run the burn tool over it once or twice, and then blur it again, and it should be good. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

kk. Wow...is my scheduel all messed up...I'll probably not get to it until a few days... :P-- Moss SC  00:00, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded please,someone explain to me how to fix this. -- Moss SC  19:37, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Did you try blurring it?--Nightfall101 23:18, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like there's highlights around the shading, so try and use the burn tool on that part of the shading to darken it to fit with the shading, ot darken it to blend between the shading and the fur color, and then BLUR, blur, blur! (or something like that. Try playing around with it and see if you can get the burn tool and blur tool to work.) --  Icy -chan  02:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Snowfur (Q): For approval
Well she died as a queen so here ya go.



Comments? --Bluestar1776 22:23, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Some of the lineart on her ears are blurred a lot, and I can barely see any color on her nose. Also, there definately has to be some shading, and I would maybe blur the gray on the ear that's farthest from us (her left ear), it looks like a circle--Nightfall101 22:27, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - sharpened ears, darkened nose. --Bluestar1776 23:17, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add color to the nose, make the lineart on her hindleg and her front leg that is closest to us black, and lighten the eyes. Also add shading. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened lineart, colored nose. --Bluestar1776 16:03, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Drumroll, please!! *drumroll drumroll drumroll* Thanks, Echo, for showing me how to do the shading! --Bluestar1776 19:21, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I an kind of see that there is shading but you need to darken it slightly. Use the burn tool and rn it over a few times. Then use the blur tool to blend the shding in. Also, the ear pink needs to be more triangular Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:15, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened shading, fixed ear pink. Lol, is it blurry enough for you? Hahaha I'm just kidding it sucks. --Bluestar1776 17:12, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I put up two versions. The second one is a thousand times better, in my opinion. --Bluestar1776 17:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I still can't really see the shading on either version and you've now blurred the lineart... more noticeably on version1. Use the burn tool to darken the shading and then fix the blurred lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:03, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

There's still a lot of blurred lineart, mostly on the forepaws and belly. And you don't need to put the image at the end of the section, because the changes appear above. And don't forget to leave your sig so we know who you are. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:10, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Don't know if it's just my computer, but it looks like her shading turned into spots on top of her spine. don't know if it just me or not. --Honeyrose34 23:35, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

You're right about the shading Honeyrose. Try and brush it up a little, make it straighter and more even. --Nightfall101 03:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - fixed the shading. --Bluestar1776 19:11, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Looking good. But I would lighten the shading on her belly and chest, it looks like it's gray there instead of just shaded--Nightfall101 21:59, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - should I lighten it any more? --Bluestar1776 22:11, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's coming along great! Try and even it out on back though, it still looks a little bumpy--Nightfall101 22:14, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - lightened the shading on the back. --Bluestar1776 22:19, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I have to eat dinner, will work on it more after. --Bluestar1776 22:21, November 17, 2009 (UTC)



The red is where the lineart is blurred, and the blue is where the shading needs to be darkened--Nightfall101 22:58, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I fixed the areas you said to. Better? --Bluestar1776 00:22, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It's getting a lot better! But, all the shading still needs to be both thickened and darkened--Nightfall101 00:27, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened the shading on the back. --Bluestar1776 00:51, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, but it's still hard to see. Thicken the shading on the back and tail, and try straightening it--Nightfall101 00:54, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I don't know what you mean by "thicken", but I did my best. --Bluestar1776 02:09, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Is the gray on the ear tip shading? It looks very sudden. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:48, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

It's not shading, Snowfur is supposed to have gray tipped ears. But the shading really needs some work, it looks bumpy and uneven--Nightfall101 21:15, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - better? --Bluestar1776 23:33, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The shading isn't as bumpy anymore, but it still needs to be evened out--Nightfall101 22:21, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you should get rid of the images that aren't being improved. I'm not really sure which one I should look at.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:20, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - better? --Bluestar1776 14:51, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, the shading looks much better. But there is a spot at the base of the tail that's to dark, lighten it up a little. Also, you seem to have forgotten to put pupils in her eyes --Nightfall101 22:33, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I lightened that, and she does have pupils. --Bluestar1776 00:23, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Swiftbreeze (W)-For Approval


Here's my first charart! I'm very proud of the tabby stripes, they were hard to do. Well here she is, Swiftbreeze from Bluestar's Prophecy--Nightfall101 04:26, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is really good for a first charart! Just blur the white areas a little more, and perhaps don't make the tabby stripes so bunched together.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:10, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Wowzers, I'm impressed for your first charart! Don't bunch up the tabby stripes so much, and the picture itself looks a little blurry... try saving it in PNG format next time. --Bluestar1776 19:05, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Your pupil is gold like the rest of the eye, make it black please!!!--Honeyrose34 20:07, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink just a little bit smaller. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:21, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

How do I save it in png format?--Nightfall101 02:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well when you save the image on pixlr, a box will come titled, 'Save Image' Bring down the list next to 'Format' and choose PNG. Follow me? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:41, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! I'll get to work on it--Nightfall101 21:48, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Is this better?--Nightfall101 03:18, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

On her description, it just says "tabby and white", not that she has a white tipped tail, white paws and a white chest. I would think this ment patches of white instead of what you did. --Bluestar1776 02:18, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmm, just because it says she is tabby and white, doesn't necassarily mean brown tabby with white patches. That would look a little weird. Tabby and white could mean anything. It doesn't really matter where the white is, just that she has white somewhere on her body. I'am very proud of this picture, and I don't really want to change where the white is--Nightfall101 03:09, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

For the white patches, that can be a personal preference by the artist, just like gray-and-white could mean patches (ex. Hazeltail), or just gray with white paws and belly (ex. Mousewhisker).

For the image itself, the ear pink is way too bright, and needs to be more of a reddish color, like on Barkface or Stick. The image looks very good, and once the ear pink color is changed, it should be pretty close to ready, if not ready. --  Icy -chan  23:29, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like the puple is still gold. --Honeyrose34 00:24, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The pupil is white Honeyrose, I promise--Nightfall101 00:36, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Is the ear pink better Icethroat?--Nightfall101 00:48, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the ear pink's much better. Great job! --  Icy -chan  04:02, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Anything more I can do?--Nightfall101 08:43, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...I can hardly see any detail on the brown part of the tail, maybe run the dodge tool over it a couple of times to lighten it, so we can see the details, and then this should be good. --  Icy -chan  21:51, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Any better?--Nightfall101 22:48, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Yep. I can't see anything else. Great job! --  Icy -chan  23:24, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Hawkfire said that the lineart on her back looks bumpy, so I'm gonna fix that--Nightfall101 00:07, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I tried to fix the back lineart, does it look smoother?--Nightfall101 00:07, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

This is almost ready but I have a few small things: 1) there is some grey lineart on the foreview hind paw. 2) The stripes look very indistinct and over blurred - perhaps define them a little. 3) The white chest patch, whilst there is nothing wrong with it's positon, it is very uneven and blotchy - try and make it maybe slightly bigger and also more even. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:12, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I ran the burn tool over the stripes, fixed all the gray lineart on the paws, and did my best to improve the white patch on her chest. Better?--Nightfall101 19:34, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Wow amazing for your first Charart. I think the cat is too dark. Does it say "dark brown tabby" Great no not great I meant AWESOME! for your first Charart! Might get mine up soon.And AWESOME! tabby stripes. <font color="#0000ff" style="background:Lime">Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 00:03, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Icestorm! I think I'd prefer to keep her that color though. Any more comments?--Nightfall101 00:27, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? Anyone?--Nightfall101 02:36, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

You could maybe darken the back ear some (the right ear), just for cool effect. :) --  Icy -chan  15:34, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Which ear? The one farthest from us, or the one closest to us?--Nightfall101 22:25, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

The one farthest from us, but ignore my comment, I think it looks fine now. I don't know what I was thinking earlier. :) I think this is ready. --  Icy -chan  22:44, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Really??!!! XD--Nightfall101 22:49, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? (btw - you need to rename this... it has 2 'png' tags; it only needs one) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:32, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Logfur-For Approval
This is Logfur. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:46, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the stripes or lighten the pelt because it's hard to see them.-- *Minn owc law*  20:18, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

It might just be me, but the image looks very dark and very red and there seems to be some paler grey/white on the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:25, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

The image is really really dark. The image needs lightened a lot. Try the dodge tool on 100% size 100 or 200, so you get the entire image. Use the tool about three or four times, or maybe six or seven. Until you think it's bright enough, which you'll probably know. Also, the lineart does look gray in some areas. From what I can see of it, though, the tabby stripes look very nice. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:49, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat, it's waaaaay to dark. And I do see the gray lineart. But I really like the stripes!--Nightfall101 05:38, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It did say Dark Brown but it looks like this is to dark :) I will do this ASAP. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 13:28, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Waaaaay to dark, I can barely see the stripes. The shading is good, though. --Bluestar1776 19:04, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've brightened the brown colour, and removed the gray from the outline (replaced with black). Hope that's okay :) - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:00, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Now it looks somewhat reddish rather than dark brown. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:07, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I agree w/ Rainwhisker, maybe make it just plain dark brown, not to bright, not too dark. Do get what i am saying, my friends say that i talk like i'm from a diff country! Anyway, just don't make it too red looking. --Honeyrose34 23:32, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I've made the fur more brown now. Let me know what you think :) - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:23, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It looks redddish brown now. Try changing the color altogether instead of lighting it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 It looks brown to me, so I'd have trouble making it look more brown :). The RGB for it atm is 59-37-16 which is about the right ratio as far as I'm aware. - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:58, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It looks better now, great job Bramble!! ( is okay if i call you that? just checking!) --Honeyrose34 00:23, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Honeyrose, you might not want to call Brambleclaw that because the fantastic leader of this project is a user named Bramble. I was confused and thought that you were mistaken when I saw the post and I think other people with be.-- *Minn owc law*  01:42, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

lol you can all call me Shruggy if you feel like it :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:11, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is a very strange colour. Try looking at some approved cats and choose a different shade. Um... I think Tigerstar is a good example Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:03, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Sandy but if I try it goes brown...:/ Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 19:12, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

hmm....as he's a darkbrown cat I did the ear like a black cats ear. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:11, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, don't worry. Can you just blend it a tiny weeny bit and this should be good for approval. =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:33, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Cinderfur (D) - For Approval
Technically he died as a deputy, so here ya go. What do you think?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:07, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

He's GGOD!!just add more the shading, and blur the ear pink. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 04:12, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

He needs a little more shading, and possibly highlights. Right now he looks flat.(I shouldnt say that, because the computer screen is flat) Ok, he looks 2-D.-- Shad owed  heart  12:59, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

The eyes don't have a pupil/highlight. --Bluestar1776 15:57, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and the lineart on the hind leg that is furthest from us is blured. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:32, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thickened the shading, blurred the ear pink, and fixed the hind leg. He already has a highlight in his eye. I sort of made a highlight at the top of his head, but I'm having a little trouble with them.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  16:19, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you darkened the shading rather than thickened it. Can you thicken it some more?-- Ashshadow My Clan 21:55, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well I darkened and thickened it, but I'll thicken it some more.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:53, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

You need to add a bit more color to the eye, and add a pupil/highlight. Here's an example: (Don't critcize, I just made this in like 2 minutes and didn't bother with shading.) Anyway, see how his eye has more color? Lol sorry meh image ended up a little higher than yours. --Bluestar1776 22:02, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Er, I can't see the image.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  06:22, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Try using this as a reference on how to do the eye: --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:34, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thickened the shading and fixed the eye.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:05, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, the eye looks goo, but the shading needs blending. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:34, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Darkstar (RC) for approval
I like her name...Darkstar...XD-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 05:30, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like it, but lighten the eyes a little, or add a white spot to make a glare. (I don't know if that makes scense or not)And maybe darken the fur. Also, when I was reading Code of the Clans, I found the picture that went with the scene she was in. There was a cat somewhere in the middle that was most likely Darkstar, and it was a tabby. (Just a thought, you don't have to make her tabby)--Nightfall101 05:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

that's another Darkstar *reuploaded*-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 17:54, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I thought I reserved Darkstar?-- Ashshadow My Clan 18:56, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Actually ignore my previous comment. Yours is way better than mine. Can you darken the pelt a little more, it looks reddish brown right now.-- Ashshadow My Clan 20:00, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I really like this but I have a few small things. 1. Can you darken the shading under the chin and on the neck a little to define this area more. 2. The eye colour is too dark. I like the highlight in the eye but it's hard to distinguish the dark blue from the black of the lineart. 3. The ear pink needs to be smaller and contained within the ear so some pelt colour can be seen around the outside. Look at Cloudstar or Sunstar. It should be a triangle shape and well blended Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:56, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Make the nose a little more of a darker pink. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 16:24, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think the eye color is still a tad dark, mayb use the dodge tool once or maybe twice. --Honeyrose34 21:32, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

This is turning out great! But I don't think the eye is to dark, it's looking good. But I do see four white pixels, two on the tail, one right next to her right paw, and one on her left ear. Also, the lineart on her left eye is thinner that the lineart on her right eye, could fix that maybe?--Nightfall101 01:36, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Great! But maybe you can make the ear pink more triangular. :) And the eyes... brilliant, but they sort of bulge. You can add more lineart to the eyes. <span style="font-family:papyrus; color;black; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Faithlark Talk :) 22:23, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I think what the problem is with the eye is you thinned the lineart on the top of it. I fixed that for you. I hope you don't mind:) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:18, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with the eye now... comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:35, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Cave-Guard Blanks - For Approval
They're baaaaack XD With Shadowedheart's permission, I am now doing the Cave-Guard Blanks again. They took forever to make. I used many references to get the anatomy right. But, enough about that. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 13:14, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, these look great! The front two legs look skinny, though, compared to the big hind legs. These are probably the best cave-guard blanks I've seen, great job! --  Icy -chan  13:52, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks a bunch, Icethroat :D Love the new sig, by the way! Thickened the forelegs. Better now? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 15:50, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

These are way better than the ones I put up... Just two things: First, the part where the two forelegs connect with the chest/belly, the two lines are go too in into the legs. Just shorten them a bit. Second, the part where the tail on the longhairs connects with the rest of the body needs more of a curve, not a straight line. Otherwise, they're great! By the way, Icethroat, love the new sig! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 15:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thankies, Rainwhisker ^-^ I fixed the afforementioned areas. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:11, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

The tail on the shorthaired ones looks kind of... odd. --Bluestar1776 17:17, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

So, how do I fix them? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 18:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Make it more pointy, like the tail on the longhairs, but not too pointy. Thanks for the comments on my new sig! --  Icy -chan  18:36, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the tails on the shorthairs. And your welcome, Icethroat:) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 19:06, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think that you may need to move the showing hind leg infront of the foreleg.-- Shad owed  heart  21:10, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Could you specify it more? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 22:04, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg's haunch looks tucked in, and when a cat sits, its out. The flat part on the front of the hind leg should be curved to look like its in front.Also, the front legs back around the hind leg is different on the long and short haired. Shad owed  heart  22:21, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Ah, I see what you mean now. I fixed the legs. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 22:50, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 20:33, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Yup, much better. --  Icy -chan  23:01, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Anything else I need to fix? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 20:57, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

I made an example: Note that I didn't bother to add mud streaks. I had no trouble coloring it in. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:26, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Cool! And anyway, i don't think that cave-guards have the mud on them, only prey hunters. i beats me, i don't really know much about the tribe. just thought that i could put out an opinon of mine. --Honeyrose34 21:17, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Wow, these are incredible. I honestly don't see anything wrong. Comments before approval in 24 hours? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:57, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Um, I think that if I real cat sits (because my cat is sitting right next to me right now) the leg on the left ( to our sight) is not that fat. <span style="font-family:papyrus; color;black; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Faithlark Talk :) 22:24, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but remember, Cave guards are big they've gotta be big enough to fight off eagles and such--Nightfall101 22:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Nightfall's right, the legs are big because they're cave-guards. I can't find anything wrong with these, either. --  Icy -chan  22:46, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

The legs should be a little smaller, they may be cave-guards, but they are still cats. Also the longhairs have no fluffiness on the further leg.-- Darkhallows 23:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I disagree with you, Shady. I think the legs are in a nice proportion to the body. Hawktalon, the only thing I see that needs to be done is to get rid of the far haunch. In real life, a cat at this angle would hide the haunch. I've demonstrated on your female short haired. Other than that, the hind paw under the tail looks a little awkward. That's all. -- Bramble -san  02:12, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Got rid of the far haunches and fixed the hind paws (I hope). I don't think I should mess with the hind leg until we get to a final decision on what to do with them. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:07, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

hmm...the eye looks to big to me..it could just be me. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:16, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - They look good! Personally, I like the leg the way it is now. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:32, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I like how they are now. And I like the eyes the way they are=)--Nightfall101 23:49, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Graymist (W) - For Approval
Well, my third tabby, my second recent tabby. How bad is it? --  Icy -chan  23:15, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

She's great, but doesn't look very tabbyish as more stripish.(ugg Minnow has brain freeze and can't think!) -- *Minn owc law*  01:34, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I pruposely made the tabby stripes stripe-ish. So...how would I fix them to look less stripe-ish? I tried to use an Echomist effect on the tabby stripes, but evidentally, I failed. (lol) How would I make the tabby stripes look better? --  Icy -chan  02:07, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hiya! So...to make them more tabby...well, make some more wavy and irregular, and add some squiggles in between the lines. Also, you may want to make some y's. But that's optional.-- Moss SC  00:18, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, what Mossy said.-- *Minn owc law*  03:01, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I kept the original one on the left, but put the new one on the right, because I wasn't sure which was better. Personally, I don't like the stripes on the second one at all, I don't think they look any realistic, but I'll see what everyone else thinks. :) --  Icy -chan  22:53, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I give the second one: <-(>^^<)-> (claps). Let's see what other people say.-- *Minn owc law*  23:23, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I really like the first one! ♥Sha dow edh eart♥  ♥Meow♥ ♥Prey♥  10:54, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I actually think the one on the left looks really good and a lot more realistic than the other. (ie. the first one) If you look at I think the stripes are okay how they are as this tabby has very straight stripes... it just depends. (I typed 'tabby cats' into google images and this was like the 3rd image so...) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:07, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

So which one should I keep up, the first one or the second one? --  Icy -chan  21:44, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I like the second one better, the stripes are more realistic--Nightfall101 21:46, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I like the first one better. The stripes on the second one seem too big to me.-- Ashshadow My Clan 22:05, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I really like the second better! I agree with Nightfall. <font color="#0000ff" style="background:Lime">Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 00:31, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone for your opinions, but I've looked at the picture Sandy provided, as well as some others, and I found a lot of striped tabbies, so I changed it back to just the first one being up for approval. So, now that that's decided, any more comments and suggestions? --  Icy -chan  02:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

You could blur the ear pink. The stripes look great! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:22, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred the ear pink. Anything else? --  Icy -chan  16:24, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - See if you can blur the shading on the back anymore. Other than that, she looks great. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:59, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any better? --  Icy -chan  22:47, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Looks good. Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:37, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Whitefang - for approval
Thanks for the list Sandy. So we don't clash, I'm working backwards. GRRRR... I hate white cats, but here he is.-- *Minn owc law*  01:29, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job, Minnow. Just add ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 01:40, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

WOW. I forgot something like that. Fail on me. Better?-- *Minn owc law*  02:53, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I like it a lot Minnow! Whitefang will always remind me of the wolf Whitefang=)--Nightfall101 00:52, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I think it looks great! And White Fang: COOLEST. STORY. EVER!!!!! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:23, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Aside from the Erins', I mean. Still... Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but I hated the movie--Nightfall101 16:25, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

There's a movie? I did not know that. Anyway, back to the image: the shading could be thickened more. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:21, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and I think the shading on the throat should maybe be stretched up all the way to right below the chin. Oh and Rainwhisker, don't watch the movie. it's terrible--Nightfall101 22:28, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not going to thicken the shading more unless more people tell me too because when I did, it looked really bad.-- *Minn owc law*  00:58, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Oh that's fine! It was just a suggestion=)--Nightfall101 01:33, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I just pretended the mozie was based on another story, so I survived it. I like this, though. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:33, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I have one small thing (I know it's picky, I'm sorry); the eye looks kind of lifeless... I know you have the pupil nd highlight in, but perhaps use different shades of blue to give it some, well, life. =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:39, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Swiftfoot(MC) for approval
Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 23:29, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

blur the shading more.-- *Minn owc law*  23:33, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

looks like the pupil is gold. --Honeyrose34 23:32, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Blured the shading. Honeyrose I think what you're seeing in the eye is the highlight and it's supposed to be there. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:25, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading a bit, and he'll be ready. :) Nice job. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 21:38, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Emberfoot (W) - For Approval
Well, my firstcharart; Emberfoot of ShadowClan =). Comments? --<span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly! 12:15, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is incredible Holly! All I really have to say that it was never mentioned in his description whether it was only his front paws that were darker gray, so I would make them all dark. But other that that, I think this is amazing=)--Nightfall101 16:29, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Nightfall it does say with two Darker gray paws. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk

Oh, my bad sorry=)--Nightfall101 17:02, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Fantastic! All I can see is that you should add a couple of black pixels in the eye, one on the right pixel on the right, one right under that, and one to the left of that, so that you have one white, then the black, and then the color of the eye. (Sorry if that sounds too complicated, let me know if I need to rephrase it.) --  Icy -chan  20:56, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better now? -- <span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly!

Err... the eye looks kinda red. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:27, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- <span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly!

Daisyheart-- For Approval!
Here's my 1st, well...2nd. Besides that here's Daisyheart. Not fond of the name but thought she would be easy for me. Comments? Concerns? --Honeyrose34 00:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is a huge improvement! I would maybe thicken the shading a little more, and there's a line of white running through her whiskers where it should be ginger. Also, there is a lot of blurred lineart--Nightfall101 00:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Good job Honeyrose. I think you used the thumbnail version instead of the full size for the blank. Can you make it bigger?-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:29, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, i honestly don't know how, i didn't even realize till you said that. I just uploaded it up and it just did that. Please tell me how!! --Honeyrose34 00:31, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else, still don't know about picture size...--Honeyrose34 00:35, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

There's still some blurred lineart, and I can a spot that needs to be blurred right around the base of the tail--Nightfall101 00:41, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Okay how to make the Charart bigger (sorry you have to re-do it) You click on the blank on the PCA Project page. Then it will bring you to a page. You click on the blank again (left click) press "save picture as" then do what you nomarlly do. (Does this spund confusing?) I hope this helped you! <font color="#0000ff" style="background:Lime">Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 00:47, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Icestorm-- i DO do that. I didn't have a problem with Whiskerpaw before. See him in the #25 declined at the bottom. You'll see what i mean.

Nightfall-- i don't know what you mean about the tail need to be blurred thing. Could you maybe upload my Daisyheart and then circle it or something, i don't understand.

Okay, any MORE comments!? --Honeyrose34 00:52, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I can post the full sized blank to your talk page if it would help.-- Ashshadow My Clan 01:01, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

That would be great. You know, this is the 2nd time you offered to save my butt. I thank you SO much. Do any of my real friends at school help? No, they don't like Warriors, only Twilight. Exept for one kid. I don't know what she like's to read. Back to the real world, thanks Ashshadow!!! --Honeyrose34 01:08, November 21, 2009 (UTC)



The red shows where the lineart is blurred--Nightfall101 01:22, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I managed to make it large for you, I did have to redo the eye, because the resizing killed it. I hope you don't mind.-- Darkhallows 11:39, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Shady: How on earth did you resize it without blurring it? I have longed to know how to do that. Honeyrose: The shading needs to be thicker and needs to be on the white as well as the ginger areas - try making your white slightly off-white so shading will show up. Also, blend your shading. The ear pink needs to be a central smallish triangle of a rosy/salmon pink colour ad blurred. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:19, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

The edges were a little blurred, so I just made it a little bigger then the lineart and erased them. If that makes any sense.-- Darkhallows 11:52, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

!!!!!!!! I'm so excited! Thanks SO SO SO much! This helped me a WHOLE lot better, Shady. I'll fix the blurred spots Sandy and Nightfall. I know, i wasn't able to reply yesterday, but i went to see New Moon. It was really got but long because we had a half hour of credits to wait for more and more people to come in. Man, it took a long time but it was totally worth it!!! --Honeyrose34 15:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I was just editing her when i saw that i didn't blur the line art, the line art black just messed up the ginger when i was bluring. I'm right now trying to fix it. Sorry 'bout that kind of confusion! --Honeyrose34 15:43, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Forget my last comment, i almost forgot that Shady redid it for me. Man, i'm really dumb........... Sorry again. I'm on a roll w/ these 'sorrys'! --Honeyrose34 15:46, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded -the new image is at the top. i just darkened the shading a tad. Any more comments? --Honeyrose34 16:02, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Still needs more shading. Then she should be good.-- Darkhallows 23:37, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- Don't know if the shading that's new showed up or not so i'll redo it if i need to. any other comments besides that??? --Honeyrose34 21:20, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfoot- For Approval
Here she is! Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 02:31, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I like it! But I think I can see some red on her shoulder, belly, and hindleg--Nightfall101 02:39, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

And the right eye looks kinda....creepy--Nightfall101 04:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I like it too :). All I can see is, that the pink in the ears probably needs to be blend a little. --<span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly!

Nightfall, she's looking to one side, like she's looking over her shoulder. But I admit, it kind of makes it look creepy-like. Anyway, the ear pink could be shifted to the left more (our left) and the highlights + shading needs to be blurred more. Plus, the eye should have more than one shade of color in it. Otherwise, she's great! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:23, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I changed the title so it's spelled right, hope you don't mind. I love the cat by the way. Maybe just make the eyes a little less creepy. * shudders * --Honeyrose34 16:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed the eyes and blended the shading and highlights the best I could. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 23:04, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

She's awesome! I don't really see anything wrong or could it just be my eyes? I think I'm blind. Great job! <font color="#0000ff" style="background:Lime">Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 02:36, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I like this! Just like everybody else has said. Man, what is with all these cliches I'm using? I almost used "We need to talk" in a fanfiction I'm writing! Somebody help! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:41, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Snaketooth - For Approval
My first one!!!! Criticism WANTED!!!!! I'm trying to learn as much as I can to improve him. . . comments?--Mousetalon 18:36, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

This is actually pretty good for a first attempt =) I have a few things to mention though: 1)He is described as a dark brown tabby - could you make his fur colour a little darker? Something like the colour of Tigerstar, Voletooth or Toadfoot. 2) The tabby stripes are good, but there are a couple that look a little odd such as near the base of his tail - just tweak it to make it more of a natural shape. 3) This needs shading, or more shading. There are a few different styles so have a look at some approved pixels for inspiration! The main different styles are: Mousefang, White-eye and Runningwind. 4) The ear pink needs to be smaller and more of a rosy colour. See Brightheart. 5) The highlights need to be a little bigger and blended a lot more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC) '''

Reuploaded''' Darkened him A LOT. Can't see the tabby stripes too well, but I think it's better. Shaded as well and fixed the ear.--Mousetalon 23:46, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I know, I just did, but I wanted better highlights and tabby stripes.--Mousetalon 23:56, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

The front of him is really blurry.-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:07, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Un-blurred him a bit. Better?--Mousetalon 00:50, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry by the front of him I ment the lineart in the front. That still needs to be fixed-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:54, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

OH!!!! Let me fix that! Reuploaded I think that's good.--Mousetalon 01:23, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

The cat needs eye color. right now, it's just black. Make it like blue, green or amber. if the page doesn't say, just do one of the randomly. --Honeyrose34 16:04, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I gave him amber eyes, they looked better than blue or green.--Mousetalon 19:14, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Great job. I see that the one tabby mark near the center of his flank seems.....hollow. I don't know if that makes sense or not it seems like it was kind-of painted. if you don't know what i mean, just ask. --Honeyrose34 21:12, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed it. Thanks, I think that happened when I was fixing the blur on his chest.--Mousetalon 21:17, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - His eyes need a pupil. Try looking at some of the approved warriors for help. Mossfire &amp; Steatlhfire 22:02, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded There. --Mousetalon 22:25, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

The shading seems sort of blotchy.-- Darkhallows 23:29, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

How should I fix it? --Mousetalon 03:04, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Cloud with Storm in Belly (E) - For Approval
Okay, my second elder of the day ^_^ Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:04, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! You might want to take that black dot off it's chest though.--Mousetalon 19:08, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks =) The black dash is part of the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

It looks great! All I see is that the eye could have more than one shade of color in it. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Done. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:19, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Try to make the ear pink follow the shape of the ear more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:03, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Done Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:54, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

You could blur the highlights a bit more. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 22:56, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Done Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:25, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Molewhisker (W)-For Aproval
Well, here's my second charart, it's Molewhisker from Code of the Clans. It never said his eye color, so I made them amber. What do you think?

The color's perfect, Just blend the shading and highlights, Night. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 04:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I blurred the shading and highlights as much as I could. Better?--Nightfall101 04:59, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights and darken the ear pink.-- *Minn owc law*  00:55, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Okay, that's the second time I've had to reupload it, because it went back to the old picture a little after. Anyways, lightened highlights, darkened ear pink, and I blended the highlights and shading more--Nightfall101 22:58, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wait, Nightfall, Swiftbreeze hasn't been approved yet so you can't put Molewhisker up yet. The SR warriors may have to decline this until Swiftbreeze is done. Sorry! --Honeyrose34 23:02, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I thought someone else had Molewhisker reserved? Plus, Swiftbreeze should be approved in a couple of days. We might just temporarily decline it. Of course, it's not up to me. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:07, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfire said I could put him up, and I checked, and nobody reserved him. (Gosh I hope I didn't overlook it) And I'm still waiting for Swiftbreeze comments--Nightfall101 23:17, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Littlebird- for approval
Huh... I don't usually do gingers. Is she alright?-- Darkhallows 11:50, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ooooh, I like it!! The only thing I can say is the red on the tail tip needs to be blurred a bit. Other than that, it's great! --Bluestar1776 14:56, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

That's really good. I agree with Bluestar1776- just a little blurring and it's good to go!--Mousetalon 15:02, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, my gosh, this is beautiful! The texture is spot on and it looks so 3D and... gah, how do you do that!? *drowns in flood of awesomeness* Just do what they said above and this should be ready:D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 15:59, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

You know, everytime i come up with a good warrior name for my books or just random stuff, it seems like the Erin's always steal them! Argggg..... Besides that GREAT job! All i see is the back ear is a little too dark from the shading. Lighten it up and you'll be good to go! --Honeyrose34 16:08, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yes Honeyrose, I've had that same experience. I thought of Cherrytail before I read Firestar's Quest=)--Nightfall101 22:38, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Done.-- Darkhallows 23:27, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink.-- *Minn owc law*  00:54, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

I echo Minnow (lol) and also, make the highlight of the eye white rather than red. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 01:26, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Done.-- Darkhallows 08:38, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

b-b-b-b-b-bb..... Littlebird was my original name for a fan-fic. I don't think i'll be able to forgive the Erins for that one. (oh wait - forgiven! =D) really nice pic, I think that it's ready for approval. =D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 08:40, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I had Pinestar, Adderfang, AND Copperpaw! Are they out to destroy my fanfic? I really like this image, except she looks kind of orange. Feel free to ignore me. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:46, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Splashnose - For Approval
I felt kinda bad about cluttering up the page, but I figured that a few images are in the 24-hour stage already and it will be emptier fairly soon, so... here's Splashnose. The best name I can think of for a cat with a white splash on her nose, lol. Anyway, comments? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 15:49, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ooh, I like this one! I don't see anything wrong with it! What program do you use to color chararts, by the way? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:01, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Fantastic as usual! The only thing I can see is that, this may be my computer, but there's some gray above her back and below her belly. --  Icy -chan  16:21, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

This looks great! Icethroat is right though -the shading has darkened the background Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:23, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

~Reuploaded.~ Aw, thanks, guys =). Fixed the background. Oh, and Hawk, I use Pixlr. :) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 01:29, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I use Pixlr, too! *flails* --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 14:08, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Jayfeather(k)- For Approval
Um, am I allowed to do this? But this is my first charcat. Jayfeather: a tough guy, kitten days. Fur all soft and lighter. Comments? <span style="font-family:papyrus; color;black; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Faithlark Talk :) 22:15, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - This is great! Just see if you can blur the ear pink a bit more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Awsome! But maybe make the eyes a darker shade of blue--Nightfall101 22:36, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is really good but can you make him longhaired. His apprentice pic has long hair.-- Ashshadow My Clan 22:49, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Remember, we have a Jayfeather image, please try to keep to no imaged cats. You can keep him up, though.-- Darkhallows 23:39, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Remember what Darky told you. Also, darken the pelt and don't darken the eye color, becasue he is blind and has light grayish eyes.-- *Minn owc law*  00:52, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

He looks like a silver tabby. Try darkening the pelt color. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 01:59, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Pebbleheart - for approval


I know this breaks the image number, but there are some that are getting approved, so... yeah. But I will say that I am not very fond of my work on this image (Except the ear and herbs, :D). <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 06:22, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - The background is showing up gray. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:48, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

It looks very good, I can't see anything wrong with the Shadding. Just made the fur a little bit darker. <span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly!

Looks great! But I think that the ear pink should be more dull, as it looks very bright right now. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:01, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Larkwing - For Approval


I don't know what I think of this image. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 08:48, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

She's gorgeous Dawn! :O I think that the black patch on the back of her neck is way too dark. Besides that, great job! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 14:36, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - She's absolutely, incredibly, astoundingly, and amazingly beautiful, gorgeous, and any other synonyms for any of the words I just used. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:50, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Great job! That is one of the best medicine cat charcats I have ever seen!

-- Nightwhisker98 Cloudclan Deputy 20:56, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is too light that i can't see it well, make it a little darker. --Honeyrose34 22:28, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

You could blur the highlights a bit more. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 22:56, November 23, 2009 (UTC) Whoops, wrong section!

Okay, reuploaded. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:14, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reedfeather- For Approval
My second tabby. Comments?-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:01, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong. I like the type of tabby stripes that you used. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:02, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Love it! I don't see anything right now. Keep it going! --Honeyrose34 23:05, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes on his hind paw that's closest to us should probably be blurred a little more. But this is great!--Nightfall101 23:21, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for all the nice comments. As for the stripes on the hind leg, it's the way their blurred that makes it look unblurred. They're so small that blurring them more dosent make a difference.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:31, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Mottlepaw - For Approval
Here is Mottlepaw. I used the Code of the Clans book to get his face coloring right. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:32, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Very nice, but he needs more shading, and it looks as if his eye lineart has been blurred. -- Bramble -san  23:43, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Smokefoot - For Approval


I seriously did this under three minutes. :) Constructments? How does he look? -- Bramble -san  23:43, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

He's awsome! And I can't find anything wrong with him=)--Nightfall101 23:45, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

o.O I don't see anything wrong. Great job Bramble! But he looks a tiny bit dark. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 23:47, November 23, 2009 (UTC) isn't the background supposed to be transparent? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Bumblepaw (A) - For Approval
Well, his description said stripes horizontally across his back, but I don't think this looks so good...opinions, comments, and suggestions? --  Icy -chan  01:09, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

The shading and hightlights are good, but, the stripes just look...wrong--Nightfall101 01:11, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I know...I can't get them to look right, so could you tell me how to fix it? --  Icy -chan  01:25, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmm, is there any way you could make him just a plain tabby? I mean, is there an acual reference in any of the books that says he has stripes in that pattern?--Nightfall101 01:48, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't have an exact page number, but under the description under Eclipse, here it says "...He is named Bumblekit because Graystripe thought that the stripes on his back made him look like a bumblebee..." but I don't have an exact page number. But there's definitely nothing that says his stripes are tabby stripes, so...suggestions? --  Icy -chan  02:05, November 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * try making them curve a little bit more so they not so straight. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blossompaw- For Approval
I tried to match Blossomkit's picture the best I could. Meh. What do you think of her? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 01:37, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

She's BEAUTIFUL (lol i almost spelled it wrong)Honey!!! All I see is add shading. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 01:39, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Mallownose - For Approval
I tried a different idea for tabby markings. Constructments? (I owe you big time for that one, Sandy!) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:12, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

This is great Dawn! I csan barely see the ear pink though. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 16:21, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Dovestar-For Approval
This is Dovestar. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:25, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Nice work! Just lighten the shading a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 14:32, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

better? hope it's not to light :/. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:45, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Perfect. Just darken the ear pink a little and he should be good to go. The ear pink is really bright. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 16:18, November 24, 2009 (UTC)


 * better? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:31, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Stonetooth (E) - For Approval
Okay, so I didn't want to let my other Cloudy Sun image go to waste so I make it grey and walah! Stonetooth! Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:29, November 24, 2009 (UTC)