Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Sorreltail - Declined
Here's a picture of Sorreltail. What do you guys think? Sonia 1000 19:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice work,but it kinda looks funny.--Jayfeather113 21:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it looks rather nice, I think. My only suggestion would be maybe some shading and again maybe some working to make a more fur-like texture... but other than that it looks very good. Hmmm... As for approval, though, I think it's fine. Anyone disagree? Gorse 21:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok I'll work on it a little bit more, and then maybe I'll put it up if Gorse approves Sonia 1000 21:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Just curious, but what program do you use to do these? Eu ( Talk! Contribs ) 23:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Here, I uploaded a better version of Sorreltail. It's still horrible...but at least it's an improvement :) !! I'm not sure if I'm done yet though...please tell me your thoughts. Gorse, what do you think? Sonia 1000 02:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I like it. For some reason, my computer's colors are permanently wacko, so I can't see any deatils on the Tawnypelt pic', but I can see this one perfectly. It looks pretty good, but honestly, I liked the old one better. This one looks....blurry, to me. *shrugs*, maybe it just looks furry :p Eu ( Talk! Contribs ) 13:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, i was trying to get a furry look...I used MS Paint for this. Should I put it on the page, Gorse?Sonia 1000 00:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I like it. 9/10! Good job, Sonia 1000! GB 00:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it looks how a Sorreltail should look. Pretty tortoiseshell. I like it. --Bramble 18:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you think, Gorse? Is it Wiki material? GB 18:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually... I can't say that it is, entirely. If you look closely, you'll see a lot of tiny color distortions, with odd little shades that shouldn't be there. I'd compare this to my early days with Photoshop Elements, when I would overuse the "Sharpen" tool. It would add in all kinds of colors that weren't in the picture before, making it look slightly unnatural. Unless the colors are fixed, I can't fairly accept it. Gorse 04:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

It's got a furry look,but I agree with Gorse.It also is blurry.--JayfeatherSong of Storms~ 15:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I really like it!-- JKO 17:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm...now that you point it out, it does look a little chalky. And dusty. But the color's still good! GB (Grocery store) 20:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Declining this one because band ate Gorse ;) and Sonia hasn't touched it in months.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Right now Sonia is in India.I doubt she can go on,cause she never goes on Clans of the Wild,her site.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 01:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just because she's away dosen't mean we're going to let clutter sit on this page. Once she's back, she can resubmit and have another go at getting it approved, but right now it's been sitting for months, and the time has come to decline it based on lack of progress regardless of the reason for the lack of progress. This isn't a storage joint, it's a place for approvals. We can't approve that image as it stands.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Crowfeather - Withdrawn by user
I did this one of Crowfeather. I know its not much since Crowfeather doesn't have much detail. --Shim 20:41, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Every time I hear it I like the phrase 'the character doesn't have much detail' less and less every time I hear it. The character being a solid color does not excuse lack of shading! Please take the time to go back and shade it, just like every person who has submitted a flat-colored image has been told to do.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 21:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry Kitsu and I share that same peeve so I know how you feel. I redid Crowfeather and added shading to him. What do you think of him now?--Shim 21:54, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * . . . If it's a pet peeve of yours, why on earth did you offer up an image guilty of it? Anyways... The edges of the shading are really, really hard... Maybe soften them up a bit so they look smoother...  Kitsufox Fox's Den 00:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I soften the edges the best I can. I don't have photoshop so I find ways to do pictures on paint an blibs.com. I'll fix Squirrelflight soon.--Shim 03:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Because of the hard-line between the colors it looks like a black cat with a black stripe on his back... Unfortunately, paint and websites aren't suited to doing high quality graphics... You can, but you pretty much have to shade pixel-by-pixel to create the gradients and proper shading.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I took the advice at downloading that program you mention. I smooth him out and personally I like this version better than the rest. He's smoother and you can't see the black outline that was on his back anymore.--Shim 21:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I was talking just about the colors on his back... The colors that make up the pelt... not the outline itself... He looks blurry... Like I'm wearing beer-glasses or have my contacts out or something...  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know about this one. It looks to dusty. I give it a 3/10. Sorry, Shim. If you want to get that score up, however, make him look less blurry and dusty. I do think you did a good job on the color! GB  04:22, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd like to decline my own picture because I have to restart on Crowfeather. It should probably take me a day or such, but I also don't like the idea of the page being a storage system. With school this is really ruining my work O_o. --Shim 22:51, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Squirrelflight - For Approval
I also did a Squirrelflight picture. Let me know if you believe anything needs to be changed about it.--Shim 23:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow!I like this one.--JayfeatherTalk 00:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don't... But I've never liked the cartoon-triangle-tabby in pixeling, so I'm automaticaly a touch against the style. Also, all of the shading edges are very hard-line, and it would look a lot nicer smoothed out and blended. And... that flood-filled-black background needs to go.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 00:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Well,I think it looks good. Why shouldn't we use it? It looks like it was done with a lot of effort, and it wasn't slapped together!!--Mousefire 04:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for great ratings Jay and Mouse. Well Kitsu this is the best I can do. I took away the background. I made the edges as soft as I could. I also took away those cartoon-triangle-tabby in pixeling markings. --Shim 04:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I was the first to admit I'm biased against that way of doing tabby and simply don't like it. *points up* Though now she dosen't have tabby markings and needs 'em. I was gonna wait for Gorse, who's actually in charge of the project to weight in. But I do have a feeling that she's going to want to seek improvement based on the fact that it looks really unfinished with the hard-lines between the shading and the main color areas. Mousefire, putting effort into things is never going to be grounds for using them. The quality of the final product is what we care about. Weather it takes 10 minuets or 10 hours to achieve, it's about how good it looks in the end. The fact that Shimmerpool is using a very low-powered and inflexible program that naturally achieves poor results means S/he'll have to work twice as hard as people with programs like GIMP (which is free for download, BTW) or Photoshop to achieve suitable results.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:19, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Now, I think you did a good job on this one Shim. But that looks more like Foxpaw than Squirrelflight. Remember, she's ginger, which looks slightly like orange. That color is reddish tabby, Foxpaw's pelt. If you want to know what Squirrelflight looks like, go to warriorcats.com! I give it a 4/10. Sorry, Shim. To get that score up, change the color of the fur! SIGNED, GB  03:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I personally don't like it, as it does look more like Foxpaw than Squirrelflight, and anyway, Squirrelflight's not red. Blackstar78 15:07, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Color is way too dark! She is not red, she's a light shade of orange.-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; ( T – C – G ) 21:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing people. I haven't been on in a while so I haven't had time to edit them with school starting in three days. The new version shall probably be up soon.--Shim 02:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No more comments until Shim gets the next version up. Shim, don't take too long ;) Can't leave it pending forever. But if we do end up closing this before you get an update posted, just post another approval thread.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Here it is people. I'm not sure if its my computer or maybe saving it made the shading darker than it was when it was created. I'm going to have start over on Crowfeather however, somehow it got erased from my computer. --Shim 04:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * First note: There is no reason to upload multiple individual versions. You can just upload the new version over the top of the old one. It'll help cut down on clutter when things are all said and done. The overall shade is definitely better, but the shaded areas are still very distinct and need to be blended. There's also the major issue of her being a tabby and needing her tabby markings.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 12:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Kitsu, use blurtool. You downloaded GIMP, right? Also add some shading between the foreleg and the flank. FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I don't know how the second one got in there when I posted it. Well this is the new version. Crowfeather will just have to come later when I have free time again which will probably be the weekends. -.- --Shim 22:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's really shapping up nicely. I can't think of anything more that needs work. Now we just wait to see if Gorse has anything.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:30, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey all, I'm transparifying (is that a word?) the backgrounds of all the (eligible) images that have white backgrounds. FxC*The Waterfall* 16:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Brightheart - For Approval
This is Brightheart(obviously). What's everybody think about it? Constructive criticism appreciated. --Bramble 19:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Very Good! I'm impressed Bramble! That's totally Brightheart! Gorse would be crazy not to approve of it! I give it a 10/10! Great Job! GB  19:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you GB(or GroceryBag, whichever you prefer)! Kitsu, Gorse? Comments? --Bramble 19:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * So far, both of your new cat pics have been scored 10/10 by me! I think you do a great job, Bramble! GB  22:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Good job, Bramble (not Bumble ;)). I like how you made the ear ragged. I had been wondering how that would look.-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; ( T – C – G ) 21:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Wonderful!!!! I can't surpress it! It is WONDERFUL to see such a marvalous picture of Brightheart! When it is approved (when, not if, when), please send me the code for it!! Oh, dear, I hope I don't sound like a Brightheart freak... Brightheart 01:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The only issue I've got is that the patches are a bit circular... They're very very regular and smooth and unnatural. I'd like to see more patchiness or just rougher edges on the patches that are there. The pixel is overall very nice, though. I like that you took the time to shred her ear.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

This is great! I could tell it was Brightheart right away (Great job with the ear!)-- JKO 17:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I tried to do more 'patchiness', Kitsu. I uploaded it png format, if you want in gif, just tell me. What do you think now? Are the patches still too circular and regular? --Bramble 17:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Its better!--Redflare 17:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * She's supposed to have a ginger tail, not a white tail with a ginger spot.--< &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; (Salamandastron )> 20:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * *poke* Citations, Eu? Also, the patches look wonderfully natural now. Excellent work. It dosen't come across like you just clicked with the brushes in your editor and smudged the edges a bit.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 06:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I love it!I think it said a few times in the first series that Brightheart had a ginger tail.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 13:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone find a page that clearly states that her whole tail is ginger ;) Then I'll force the change. Right now, I'm thinking mostly ginger is pretty much the same as a vague mention of her tail being ginger. This pixel's tail is ginger. mostly.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I found the citation, pg. 62 of Forest of Secrets that says she has a ginger tail. I changed it. I think it looks a bit weird now, but what do you guys think? I still have the original with only the ginger spot, if that looks better. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 17:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Er, this has been up for quite awhile, and no one seems to have a problem with it presently. May I upload it on Brightheart's article? -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 19:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Gorse is, I'm sure, busy with real life, and will approve it when she gets a chance.-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; undefined 02:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Cloudtail - For Approval
I also did Cloudtail. I made sure to do shading.--Bramble 19:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Excellent! This is the Cloudtail we've been looking for! Great job! I give it a 10/10! GB 20:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I like this one as well. It isn't all one color, it has good shading, but it's in the gif, not png, file format, which can be fixed, should we decide to accept it.-- &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; ( T – C – G ) 21:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Gif isn't going to damage the image quality because of the low number of colors. It's great looking. The only room for improvement might be adding a bit more shading through the shoulders, so he looks more rounded and less flat there.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:55, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I reuploaded him with more shading through his shoulders and back area like you suggested, Kitsu. What do you think now? --Bramble 16:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It could use a little blur-tool along the back ;) And maybe a bit of shadow on the 'belly' area under the legs, to give the body a somewhat rounded appearance. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I added shadow on the belly area, and blurred all the shadows that I'd put on earlier. I think this is the best i can do, Gorse and Kitsu. --Bramble 17:06, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's lookin' great. You softened up that shadow on the back really nicely (it was super-distinct before). I don't have anything more. Gorse, do you? <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you think, Gorse? Is it Wiki material? GB (Grocery store) 16:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * GB, comments like this bring nothing but clutter to the project. It had been just about 24 hours when you posted that. There is nothing unreasonable about 24 hours turnaround on something like this. Unless you are making comments on the art and how to improve it or it's been several weeks since there has been action, please refrain from making this sort of post. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 06:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Bouncepaw, Rockpaw, Tinypaw - For Approval
The three newest apprentices to SkyClan. Put them all together because i didn't want to do three separate messages. Rockpaw has shading; its just hard to see.--Bramble 18:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)



WOW! And again, WOW!!! GREAT job Bramble! I think you do a very good job on cat pics! I'm sure Gorse will love them, too! GB (Grocery store) 19:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * GB, please stop making presumptions like that. Bramble, go seperate topics next time just to keep things sorted better so there's no chance of confusion as to which pixel correction comments apply to. For Bouncepaw I have nothing, save that it's very nice looking. For Rockpaw, you might want to darken the pink or blend it more with the main pelt color, as it currently is a very very stark contrast with the pelt to that pink. for Tinypaw, some blur tool ;) the edges on your white pelt into the shaded areas are very very distinct. Excellent work. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 06:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that Kitsu, I'll make sure to do separate messages next time if i have more than one cat pic. Oh, and thanks for the comments. GB, you too, its nice to hear you like my coloring. :)--Bramble 13:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. It's not a major issue, more just a request for future. Gorse's life just got a little crazy, so she might take a day or two to get time to comment. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 13:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I reuploaded. Rockpaw has a darker pink ear as well as it being blurred, and Tinypaw has her shading blurred to the best of my ability. Anything else I can do to make them better, anyone? --Bramble 15:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Tinypaw looks better than before, but about Rockpaw's ear, the pink part looks a little small for my taste. GB (Grocery store) 18:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I, personally, feel that Rockpaw's ear looks much more realistic now. Black Cats ears look black on the inside. so having just a suggestion of skin and thinner fur is great. (While realism says solid black, I think that would look weird). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 20:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Yellowfang - Withdrawn by user
Here's Yellowfang. I used the Female Longhair warrior blank, since there is no medicine cat blank, but I think it still looks like her. FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Because the incorrect blank is used, it won't be accepted. Blanks will be made, I've started filling in holes in the collection. But there's also the issue of all the blurring. While pixels need blending, the outlines need to be cripst, while the shading edges should be soft. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...I think it's pretty good! What do you think, Gorse? GB (Grocery store) 15:09, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm repeating what Kitsu said, because it's true. Blanks are currently being worked on for all the ranked positions that don't have them yet, but until then, we can't accept pixels for any character in those positions. Yellowfang will simply have to wait for a correct pixel. Also, the edges of the pixels seem rather blurred in any case. You want the coloring to be blurred together so it looks smoother, but not the actual base itself. Gorse 16:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Now that I think of it, Yellowfang look's a little smeared. GB (Grocery store) 18:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Me too.It's smeared/blurry,but to smeared/blurry.It's nice though!-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 14:57, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

In a few days I'm going to take this off of the page. Yellowfang will never get approved w/ the warrior base. For now this is withdrawn. FxC  The Waterfall 13:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Brought this back to the talk-page; I think Gorse and Kitsu are supposed to put this in the declined archive when they get the chance, FxC. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Rainwhisker - For Approval
I did this one for Rainwhisker. Hope you guys like it. Eaglebranch 14:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I like it, Eagle(can i call you that?), but Rainwhisker is kind of a darker gray than this shade. But other than that, the shading's good and he rocks! --Bramble 15:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * First off, the character is dark, rather than mediume gray so the shade will need to adjusted. Then there's the shading, which is in need of a bit of work. The character still looks very flat and the edges of the shaded areas are very very distinct rather than blended as they should be. It's a nice start, but needs some work. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Kitsu's right about the shading and color, but I think you did a great job on the fur! GB (Grocery store) 15:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Like this? Eaglebranch 18:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Much better! GB (Grocery store) 18:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * While the shade is better... There's not a halo-effect around the darker (correct) color, creating a pale-gray line all the way around the body color section. That's not much better, It's just about even up with where it was. Eaglebranch, You'll need to fix that pale line around the edges and then shade it. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 20:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Right, I got rid of the halo and then shaded so that he would look rounder on the edges. I think it looks better. Eaglebranch 14:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Definitely improved. But the shading could be intensified (reference some other, accepted, pixels). Right now it on the minimal side and isn't fully giving dept the to the image. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Version number 4. I took your advice Kitsu and bumped up the shading. Whadya guys think? Eaglebranch Talk 15:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I say that you could just add a little more shading and blur it together. Other than that, I think its great. --Shim 02:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Dustpelt - For Approval
Yep, its old Dusty. My first time doing a tabby, I'm open to suggestions for improvement. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 14:40, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, this is coming from someone who can't do tabbies. Great job! But he's the wrong color.   He's supposed to be brown.   Eaglebranch  14:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Isn't he already brown? In the allegiances, it says he's a dark brown tabby, but I suppose I could make him a shade lighter if there are enough comments about it. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 20:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * He almost looks red to me, which is why I commented, but the tabby markings are great!  Eaglebranch Talk 20:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks very dark, and I can barely see the markings (It could just be my computer, though) Swifty {Asterisks} 01:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks dark... But it's a distinctly ruddy shade of brown that you've got there... more of a chestnut than a dark brown. The markings look good, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Bramble! I really like it!!-- JKO The Jakkolantern 21:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Repuloaded, made him less dark and more brownie(that sounds funny :p) -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 02:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The picture kinda reminds me of Brambleclaw], [[Tigerstar, and Hawkfrost. Well the picture resembles a dark tabby sorta I guess I could say. I agree with Kitsu, make it a bit less lighter.--Shim 03:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't say the character needed to be lighter... He is supposed to be dark brown. He's still terribly reddish according to my computer, though... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Frostfur - For Approval
This is my shot at Frostfur. I appreciate any constructive criticism. FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 02:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's alright. I know Frostfur is white, but it looks a little too white. Cats live in the wild, and they get dirty. Also a little bit more shading would be nice, but that's just an opinion. It's actually not bad.-- JKO The Jakkolantern 03:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I agree. A bit more shading and make the lines smoother too. I learned this alot while I'm making Squirrelflight and Crowfeather.--Shim 03:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * As the others have said, the shading need works and the white is just a bit too pristine. But Frostfur is an Elder, also. It won't hurt to have a Warrior Pixel, but just don't be surprised when we have another pixel made later (Eventually I'd like to see articles have pixels for each rank the character has held during the course of the books). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:45, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I did more shading, and added some on her chest. FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Blurtool. The edges of the shading are very, very harsh, and need to be blending into the pelt so they don't look like markings the way they do now. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:57, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I used the Blurtool. How does it look now?FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The line between base-color and shading is still really really hard... Take a look at the archive of approved stuff... You'll see that blending between the colors is needed. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 13:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Mistyfoot - For Approval
I drew Mistyfoot, how do you guys like it?FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Please sign your username when you offer up an image. I think it looks good. Maybe a little more shading in the front. Other than that, it looks fine. The fact that she's a deputy though makes me wonder. Eaglebranch Talk 19:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Asides the fact that I think Mistyfoot has short fur, her color looks about right and she looks good. The shading also needs to be blurred a bit. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I did the longhair base and used Blurtool. Now what do you think?FeathertailxCrowfeather 4ever 13:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Just curious, what is Blurtool? Eaglebranch Talk 20:49, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Blurtool is an editing tool in quality paint programs that lets you blur areas of the image. FxC, it could use a bit more shading, to make the image more dynamic... and there's also the issue of Mistyfoot being a Deputy... We don't have a Deputy Blank yet... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I was thinking...you made Brambleclaw with a warrior base. Well, you said you wanted pixels for every rank the character has held, and for pretty much all of the OS Mistyfoot was a warrior. FxC 12:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Brambleclaw was made before he was a deputy. That was the most current rank for him at the time. As for wanting the ranks.. yes. Eventually we'll want that. But currently the priority needs to be on producing with the current rank-image. We can likely forgive it being the wrong base since we do want past images, but I just want to stress that we should work in the currents and focus on characters we have bases for rather than making back images at this juncture. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 22:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Join
I would love to join the project I already have pictures of Mosspelt and Oakfur ready. --Redflare 21:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Leader and Deputy pixel blanks idea
Well,maybe for the deputy pixel blank,we could have them in a pose,but with the claws and maybe teeth showing!ANd for the leader,we could have them with the StarClan thingy somewhere on the picture.Does anyone like my ideas?-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 23:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I like the deputy idea, but what StarClan thingy are you talking about? -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 17:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

For a deputy we could use this blank from Warriors Wish ( w/ permission of course)and add claws. I think it would look cool. FxC  The Waterfall 13:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not qualified to reject this (I'm not even a member of the project :P) but I'm firmly against using this. It is in a completely different style than the blanks we already have. I'm thinking that we should make our own, so that it will come close to matching Sandstar's blanks, instead of hoping to be able to use one from WarriorsWish. By the way, Gorse, Kitsu, Redflare wants to be in the project *points up* .--< &Sigma;ul&atilde;l&iacute;&atilde; (<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#3068C8;" class="hovertext" title="Mai talk page, akshully">Salamandastron )> 14:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Eu. Grocery ( Grocery store, Cart ) 04:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

(This is Jayfeather not logged in) I mean maybe we can have the StarClan sign maybe in a corner.You know,StarClans special sign thingy.The brownish thing with cat ears with the Star inside.Each Clan has a sign.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 00:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

That image is what I mean.We should have a mini-version of that in the corner for leaders. I think we should archive this page too.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 13:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Jay...maybe we can ask Sandstar if we can edit their warrior blanks and put the StarClan sign in the corner. That might be cool. -- FxC *The Waterfall* 00:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Feathertail - For Approval
After a bit of work i've come up with this pic. This is my first tabby and I appreciate any suggestions for improvement. -- FxC**The Waterfall** 23:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC) It's good,but I think that the abby markings should be lighter.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 00:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Here is the updated version. How do you guys like it now? -- FxC **The Waterfall** 13:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Looks better!I like it.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 13:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... it looks pretty good, but if you look closely, there are some faint white spots. Are those supposed to be there? Grocery ( Grocery store, Cart ) 00:25, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

GB, do you mean the lighter parts? That's the shading. Sorry if you misunderstood. You'll see on some pixels, Brambleclaw for instance, that the shading is like that. -- FxC **The Waterfall** 01:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I think she looks like what she should look like.A mix between Gray and Silver,even though she has Silver's pelt color.-- Jayfeather Song of Storms 13:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jay. Do you know where Kitsu is? -- FxC **The Waterfall** 13:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

If that's supposed to be there, than I think you did a great job on this one, FxC. Grocery ( Grocery store, Cart ) 00:56, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the great comments, guys. As soon as Gorse and Kitsu approve, I'll put it on the page. -- FxC *The Waterfall* 13:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Clovertail - For approval
Ok, this is my first try at Charart, and criticism is appreciated. I will try to improve it if needed, but I tried my hardest. Also, can I join the project?-- J K  O  23:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

That better than what I can do,but does Clovertail have the white fur near the bottom?-- Jayfeather Sheikah 21:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I added a more cleaned up version, with Jayfeather's white at the bottom.-- J K  O  21:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Much better, but mabye you could lighten up the back line. But its not up to me.--Redflare 23:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

For a first timer, I think this looks nice, Jakko. But about her white underbelly, I think that should be lowered a little bit. And by the way, can anyone tell me how to create images? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:19, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

GB, you use a paint program such as GIMP or photoshop. I use ms paint then transfer it to photoshop. I can't wait until Foxpaw is a warrior I have the perfect thing in mind.--Redflare 23:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Jakko, this is really good. Blur the shading and it'll be great. All i suggest is maybe a bit of shading between the front leg and flank. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 23:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Two Things
Um,no offense but i think the kit pixel blanks are good,but too pixelish. And should we archive the page?It's kinda long, which makes it slow. Like we could archive the accepteed and non-accepted pictures.-- Jayfeather Sheikah 21:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

WHoops,saw the archive sutff.-- Jayfeather Sheikah 21:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Programs
I plan on downloading a program to make charcat images soon, but until then, is it okay if I use an art program on my computer? I already made an image of Blossomkit, and am working on Briarkit. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Blossomkit - For approval
First image, any constructive criticism appreciated. I used brown for the background so her white and black patches wouldn't blend in. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 02:23, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

The patches just need to be...well, smoother, and the eyes need to be done, as well as some blurring and shading, and a transparent background. But this is way better than my first try. <span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Crowfrost - For approval
Drew Crowfrost. The program won't do bright colors on gif images, so if anyone could do the ears for me, you would have my thanks. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, when you are coloring zoom in, it will help you "stay in the lines".-- J K  O  03:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I know, I'm going to fix that shortly, as well as make him bigger. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, did the ear. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 05:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Just a bit of shading and this will look decent. <span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Briarkit - For approval
I drew Briarkit. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

A few things. One, the background cannot be colored, and also needs to be transparent. I can fix that for you. Two, the eyes are "missing." Three, there needs to be more blending and shading. <span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

1. I will fix the background, but I would appreciate it if you made it transparent.<BR>2. Her eye-color hasn't been said yet; if it is revealed in Long Shadows, I'll add it.<BR>3. If you can give me some tips on how to do the shading and blending, I'll work on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 14:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Idf you downloaded an art program you should have a blurtool if you do you use a darker shade around the edges then you use the blurtool to blend them together.--Redflare 14:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)