User talk:Ducksplash

how
...in the world would you even suggest tweaking Wing's PH without the source file. You weren't around when I did that image, but a lot of mine from 2012 were extremely sloppy. o.O like, I know you don't want it redone, but I can't even begin to understand how I'd go about tweaking that- I'm no Breezey. No, I'm not trying to get you to change your mind, but, like I'm trying to understand where you're coming from. o.o

Because I'm utterly confused as to why I'd get shot down for nominating one of my own images, knowing I can do better, yet everyone else can nominate and they pretty much always pass for the same, if not less reasons, when a good 95% of those images look/ed about ten times better than Wing's PH. Idk, it's not a huge deal- I just had a crappy morning and it's more of a rant than anything and it's not against you. =P

Re:
Sure! I'll go switch the reserves in a bit. Want the .xcf for the warrior? 19:28, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, here are Scorchwind's colors + opacities;

Base - #eabd84 at 100% opacity

Texture (make sure it goes with the fur!) - #9f5d06 on multiply, with 46.7% opacity

Stripes - #be7739 on multiply, with 93.3% opacity

Pale parts - #f1d5b1 on screen, with 87.5% opacity

Shading - #360f00 on multiply, with 100% opacity

Earpink - #e3bdbd on normal, with 84.3% opacity

The eyecolor can be colorpicked from the warrior. Wish you luck on matching him! 20:22, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re2:
Sure, I'll try. 13:41, June 8, 2014 (UTC)

Queen pages and cites
'ello, Duck. I figure you can answer this for me. When it comes to the queen page, and the list of queens/their mates/kits/ect, what exactly needs to be cited?? I mean, I went through and added a few cites and added cite tags for other ones, but I really have no idea what else needs to be cited? Is it the mother, father, and the kits that need to be cited if there are names....? Help a confused snowman out, please. ;-;

Stuff
Only because I couldn't think of a heading. Do you think we should revise the chat mod qualifications for all future nominees to include the mainspace??? I mean, we can't just add it, but we could hold a discussion if you're serious about cracking down on the mainspace thing. o.o

Re:Hi!
Thank you Duck! I like working on the book pages and PCA isn't my thing, so Project Books has been one of my favorite things to help on this wiki. I really do like working on them, even if I'm not that fast. 04:40, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Edits
It's not a problem! Sadly, with the fact that I have a very active mother who is always getting me to go everywhere with her, among work that I need to get done every day, I don't think I would be able to find the time to join any of the projects at the moment, although it does seem like a lot of fun! Also, I was going to ask Jayce about this, but I figure I'll ask you here. On the Loner page, there are a lot of cats who were not called loners in those books, but instead rogues, such as Sasha and Yellowfang, Boulder never appeared in Rising Storm, according to the HarperCollins browse inside, and Twig and Pricklenose were called rogues by Skywatcher, among others I've come across, and Sasha isn't even cited as a loner on her page, nor are the others listed at loners. Shall I remove those and try to find cites elsewhere, since they were not considered loners in those particular books, or just leave them? Sunpath (talk) 23:23, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

All right, I got the rest and removed those that didn't belong, though I couldn't get the T&S, RP and SoC ones due to the fact I don't have them and nor does my library. Sunpath (talk) 02:35, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Names
Have a mini-wall, courtesy of Jayce:

Why not just go all out? I mean, if it's a list of all names, I think we could incorporate the Tribe and Ancient names in there somewhere, since the first parts of their names are shared with Clan cats...and even so, why exclude the Ancients and Tribe? If we're gonna do it, we could probably do it right and just include every piece of information about naming we can get.

See, that's part of the reason I said it ended up as a suggestion to overhaul the Cat Names page. I think there's a lot more that could be cited, like the things in this section, to start. I've noticed we also have pages for warrior ceremonies and changing names, and quite honestly, both of them seem very..short, for lack of a better word. Since they both are a huge aspect revolving around names, perhaps we could tweak them and link them to the Names page (the one we have, not the one I just came up with), and elaborate on pretty much everything and anything we see? Hell, we could even merge the pages, or just add the information to the Names page, since virtues and getting name changes and things like that are all part of the naming process.

I'd gladly comb through books to find every piece of information I can, and it's about time the other articles and projects get some attention. Plus, at the rate we're going (with you, me, Beebs, Sunpath, and Birdqueen all working on that page), we could get it going and finished in no time at all.

I'm sorry, I'm just really enthusiastic about this and I think we could seriously improve a lot of the "smaller" articles with some damn hard work.

I also made you a thing for PW, so maybe it could be of some usage. I think I'm missing a couple things that I need to go and add

Well, I think there should be some mention of their names, as they do have their own process and methods of naming. Why should we exclude a group, based on how they name their kin? Perhaps we could have a different section and elaborate on that? I dunno, I think it's a good idea... Also, when you saw it, I had updated the template. I had added the misc section and the other groups as well.

Of course. I think adding every name to the page would be a good idea.

Well, the Tribe (at least the modern one) names their kits after the first thing a mother sees. So, we could separate them by animal related names (like Brook Where Small Fish Swim), nature related names (like Snow Falling on Stones), and other things like that...idk, it's just an idea.

Another section would be fine with me, I think. They're not related to Clan names, no, but I think I added one and we just went with it. Tried to remove it and apparently it got added back in. I'm actually really glad that page got started as quick as it did. o.o Like, everyone helped and it didn't even take a day to finish the majority of the character list. As for the template, feel free to tweak it as you wish- I made it for PW to suit them, and if things need to be tweaked, then they need to be tweaked, no big deal. ^^

Well, I added them, but I'm not quite sure how to cite them. Judging by their names, it's obvious that they fit into either a nature-related name, or an animal-related name, and then I have subgroups from there (like weather, plants, earth, avians [sounds better than birds], and aquarian [fish and other water-related things])...but if you have a better way to sort them, please go ahead and change it up. Also here's an advanced welcome to the 10k edit club. =P

Ooh, what's the idea? I'm curious as to what it is. ...also wtf is Scree's name even supposed to be related to???? Like, the screeing of an animal or something???? 'cause I seriously have no idea.

Okay, so that makes his name earth-related, then. Also, I love that idea and/ look, we can reference them. 8D I seriously think making the two of us both 'ops was probably one of the best ideas, if you ask me. We can get so much more done and yay for collaboration.

Well, I think the subpage that you, me, Beebs, Sunpath, and Birdqueen are working on now would probably count. We've all done our fair share, and once it's moved, I think it would count as a collab nomination.... It would be the only fair way to assure everyone gets credit, since the history of my subpage shows that. =P Speaking of, I seriously think you can move it if you want to, since everything's basically done. Just keep the redirect to my subpage for page history reasons.

Re:
Actually, I don't believe I was out of line. Out of line would be promoting Ferk (who is a he, by the way, please do not misgender him), without any support on the nomination whatsoever. Where does it say that the abstain counts as a null? I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. I would absolutely love to see where it says this, because I looked and found nothing. Why should the vote automatically go to no because there was a tie? I'm sorry, but I fail to see your logic, and in fact, I don't think neither of us should have the final say, since I voted yes, and you voted no. If anything, we should call in a third party to decide the nomination results, since we're obviously not on the same side. It should not automatically be deemed unsuccessful because of a tie. And in fact, it never once says anything in those rules about the endorsement not counting. I disagree with your decision, and I don't think your judgement should be final. Shall we ask Kitsu to make the final call, since it's clear you and I are on two different sides? Burden of proof should not fall on me based on something that you also have no evidence to claim. We've never had this situation arise before, so how can you claim that one is correct over the other?

Well, I actually did just ask Kit, and she says that the vote would result in a stalemate, since there's no majority rule, and I honestly thought the endorsement counted. We can unarchive the vote and extend it another week, which I think is the fair choice. We have other chatmods, so let them vote. Push the vote to the other staff and see what they say- but it's not unsuccessful.

And it seems I did misunderstand what the endorsement counted for. I mean, you do see where I'm coming from, right? If you're not gonna support the nominee, then why endorse them? I mean, I honestly thought that it counted as a supporting vote. Perhaps we need to make it clear (and that doesn't mean go and edit it blindly, start a discussion) with what does and doesn't count, and stuff like that. 'cause obviously we see two different things. o.O Gotta make it fair for everyone, tbh.

I don't know... I'm not too keen on an automatic decline. Perhaps base it on the nominee's activity and make an executive administrative decision based on a discussion between the two? It just doesn't seem fair to auto-decline something when it could very well be the fault of inactive staff who didn't see the nomination.

Nor am I, but an auto-decline, especially if it's because of inactive staff members who failed to vote, isn't very fair in the least. I could understand if all staff voted, but say if it's only like four people, and we have multiple who have yet to vote, it's kinda unfair and basically says that "if you don't get favor early you're pretty much screwed".

We also owe them a fair vote, and declining it due to lack of staff participation isn't fair in the least. Why punish the nominee based on the actions of the staff who don't pay attention or have gone inactive? I still think an executive decision is a little more fair than automatically declining their RfCM based on something they have no control over.

And I don't like the auto-decline especially for the fact that 99% of the time, it isn't their fault, and we shouldn't be taking out the inactivity of the staff out on the nominee. The executive decision would be a joint one, not just the decision of you or I (since we're really the only active 'ops and I don't foresee Teldy really coming back anyways).

Hey and Ducksplash? Can you give me pointers around the Warriors Wiki? I mean, I love Warriors, but I have never been here before, so can you give me pointers of any kind for anything on this Wiki? Thanks, bunches!

Ivorysnow (talk) 20:42, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Mentor
Ello mentor! 13:48, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm... good question. O.O oh no you're making me think? Shading first? I think that's the one thing that I work on now that I have problems with. Also, because of the wiki image policy, how do you want to do this? 14:08, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

also I just found the guassian blur thing in GIMP. :) 14:34, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

omg this actually looks like a thing Okay, so I tried using 2 layers of black and it didn't look right, so I looked on the tutorial page and it said to use darker color, so I did. It's only one layer of shading, I wasn't sure about 2 because I couldn't really get it shaped right. 18:46, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what rate, I hit Guassian blur twice I think, and I didn't touch the opacity (again I think). No highlights either. 20:03, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Erm... how exactly? 20:32, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Okay so I left the shading as it was, did the blur thing, and lowered the opacity and removed waste. 22:57, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Theme
So, I was thinking...would you object to me tweaking the main colors of the wiki a little bit? I kinda want to get rid of the blindingly white background and replace it with a softer blue color, and darken the main blue we have now... I know it seems kinda abrupt and stuff, but this coloring really hurts my eyes, and Kit tried dulling it to an offwhite and it really hasn't done much justice. I have the my laptop screen on the lowest setting, and I'm still blinded. x.x Basically, I'm asking if you'd be angry with me if I went and changed some of the colors..and darkening them so I can actually edit without harming my eyes???? My eyes are really light-sensitive, and this white actually is starting to take its toll on me to the point I'm not editing as much since my eyes can't take it.

Re:
It's fine. Accidents happen, it's not a problem. :) Sunpath (talk) 04:14, June 30, 2014 (UTC)