Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Demotion Discussion
Look here to discuss the new idea of demotion. 23:31 Sat Dec 3

Description vs Alternate
I have started a discussion about what warranets an alt and what warrants a tweak. You can check it out here 00:45, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Contest Part Two Voting Now Open!
Go here to cast your vote! Please read the voting rules first, though. :3 00:02, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Macgyver
Does Macgyver get a collar in his chararts? Because he's been seen with one (The Resue manga) and without one. (SkyClan's Destiny Manga) 01:51 Sun Dec 11

Since The Rescue is an offical book manga, and the SkyClan's destiny manga is not as major as the Rescue, I'd think he'd get a collar. Was it every mentioned in the books. I think most of the Daylight-warriors wear collars. 05:26, Thu, Dec, 15, 2011

I'm not sure if it was ever mentioned in the books. But som edaylight warrior, such as Billystorm, don't were collars, so I have no idea. xD 11:20 Thu Dec 15

Okay ^^ fair enough. 05:10, Fri, Dec, 16, 2011

Harveymoon got one for being seen with a collar in the manga. So would Macgyver. =) 18:28, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion to Implement a Screening Process
A project forum has been opened here. Please feel free to join in the discussion. 02:27, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Contest Winners!
Congratulations to Mountainheart and Scarletwind for winning the charart contest! They are truly great charart makers! And a big thanks to everyone else that participated and voted in the contest. :D 04:53, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Congrats Mountainheart and Scarletwind! You both did really well and you deserve it. 05:22, Fri, Dec, 16, 2011

Re-Joining
Hey guys, i know that i kinda left but i was wanting to re-join 'cause school has lightened up on me a lot. If I can, that would be really great. PRESENT TIME! Give me them!  01:51, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back, Rainy! ^_^ 01:52, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yay~! Welcome back! 06:10, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Dibs for OAs
Everyone knows that the OA of apprentice images is getting kinda fuzzy, so it needs to be fixed. The fact is, the dibs should be over. If you havent done the image yet, youre just being greedy and doing other ones because you know those are yours. Its not fair. I propose that they are just done now. No more first dibs for OAs. 22:04, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Phew! 23:06, Sat, Dec, 17, 2011

Yeah. xD 00:12 Sun Dec 18

Yay! Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:17, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Aww...I really wanted to do leopardpaw. :( 00:36, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds fair to me. And if you want Leopardpaw, go reserve her before someone else. You've had ample time (not trying to sound rude)  01:05, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Clarification on Apprentices
I'm confused are we allowed to have two apprentice chararts up at one time? 04:27, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yup! Make sure you reserve them both and have times for both  04:28, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

A proposition that may shock you all
I have a feeling that you are either going to love me or receive this with spiteful scorn, but hear me out. I feel as though we should stop doing tweaks for a little bit. Notice how I said a little bit, I'd think maybe a few months. Guys, I do have my reasons and if you will hear me out, I think you might agree. Yes, many of the older images aren't so great, but they're usually for characters that not many people really care about. Characters such as Firestar, Bluestar, and Jayfeather all have wonderful images. I think that that wouldn't be too much of a pressing issue.

Back in ye olden days when I was still an apprentice, PCA seemed to be clam, cool, collected, and a peaceful place. When we had Tweak Week begin, it was fine, but since we've allowed it to go on permanently, I've noticed that tensions seem to be higher and we are at each other's necks for a couple of mousetails (sorry, I just had to :P) And it's all over images that are redone, getting permission or not, wanting to lay claim to your favorite character by any means, not putting a charart you found on the page, ect (no, none of that was directed at anybody. This is just what I've noticed in general). There are very few problems when people simply just do normal, completely new images. Granted, there are occasional squabbles, but they are easily forgiven and forgotten.

In conclusion, I feel that we should take a hiatus from tweaking. We could set a date for when the chararts need to be approved by (or wait until all of the ones on the page are approved, then shut it down for the time being). We don't have to do anything now, that's just my solution. After a few months, we could go back to tweaking images like normal. I just think that some of the lines are very thin and they get crossed very easily, and we just need some time to regather ourselves. So, what are your opinions? I understand if my idea is shot down, but I feel that the project needs its tensions calmed down and this would be one way to remedy that. 05:51, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Also, another thing we could do is let all current reservations be put up and approved, but no more may be reserved. Just another suggestion I forgot =P 05:54, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

That makes a lot of sense, Ivy. I've felt the tension too. Since we're in the middle of redoing all the apprentices, dropping some of the stress from our lives wouldn't be so bad, after all, the tweak page is pretty low in activity these days give or take a couple hours. A course, this'd mean that warriors/leads could only have two chararts, having three up might bring on a bit too much stress. - Scarlet   wind    ✧ L i   s a   n n a ✧  05:58, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Stopping all tweaks sounds extreme, however I can understand why you would say this. The apprentice blanks should be the main focus. But it shouldn't take months for all of the major apprentices to be approved. That seems a bit too long, maybe like two months. That should be enough to approve all of the main characters. After that, it should settle down a little. Also, it might be better to, after current tweaks are approved, take the next five or ten tweak reservations and then cut it off there. I'm a new warrior so my opinion might not be the best. But that's just what I think should happen. 06:26, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about stopping the tweaks all together.... Like Mountainheart said, it's a bit extreme, but I get what you mean about the tension, and I agree. Maybe we could just make it so we can only make minor tweaks only? No redo or really big tweaks? I don't know, just a thought. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  08:01, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Ivy, but I have to disagree with this. It goes completely against the Mission of the project: "...all character pages should possess accurate, high quality original art." The tweak page helps ensure that all character pages possess accurate, high quality original art, not just the major characters, or the ones whose pages get visited the most. Sure, this idea is only delaying the Mission, but why wait? For the sake of a few eased tensions over the holidays?

Honestly, the way I see it, it's us to blame (and I mean all of us, not just some people. Myself included.), not the tweak page. If there are squabbles, it's not because of the tweak page existing, it's because we are tense or did something wrong or misconstrued a comment or whatever. We only have ourselves to blame. Now, don't think by saying that, I'm insulting anybody's tempers or forgetfulness or what have you. I'm only saying that by taking the tweak page away, you're not going to solve anything. The tension is just going to leak out somewhere else.

To solve the disputes and arguments and high tensions, what do we then do to cool off? You can't really solve the disputes, arguments, etc. You can only leave them be. If you truly want to help calm down a situation, leave a calming, neutral comment, or, better yet, ignore the dispute. Unless the situation absolutely calls for your two cents, just leave it be. Pretend it never happened. It'll blow over soon enough, and if it gets so heated that people are insulting each other personally, then let a sysop step in and give them 24 hours to cool off.

I kinda went off on a tangent there, but what I'm trying to say is this - the tweak page isn't the source of our problems, it's us, and we just need to calm down and pretend we ain't got a care in the world. That's it. That's all. 10:47 Sun Dec 18

I think we should keep the tweaking. We're trying to get a lot of images done, and imagine if another book comes out, we'd have to do the chararts from that book. -- 13:19, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I agree, let the ones being commented on be finished and we could just chill and relax for awhile, it would give users to actually find chararts that really need to be fixed. 15:45, December 18, 2011 (UTC)