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Smokefoot (E) ~For Approval
Shading is hard.

01:26, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to say this, but define it more. I have to zoom in close to see it. I also think there's an unfilled pixel on the tail? 01:43, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add depth to the ear pink? It seems a bit flat.  Ellie  life is an illusion 03:35, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

06:06, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Shading could still use defining

Reuploaded

19:44, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. 22:09, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

03:03, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

hm the shading could still use some defining. try darkening it and then using a 40 opacity eraser tool to erase the edges? 05:18, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Updated.

02:44, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Add some more shading along the bottom of the face and the ears. There's also leaking shading on the front elbow area. You're doing great! :) 21:54, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Vec, I think I got it? I'm just terrible with shading lmao.

22:51, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

waste behind the head

smoothshading out Willowstep12 (talk) 17:21, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Fixed

18:29, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, given the source, there wouldn't be any shading on the front of the chest; rather, it'd be on the < side. I also believe the haunch shading should be receded and rounded out a bit.

Better?

19:02, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

hmm maybe could you smooth the shading on the haunch to shoulder place? it seems a little hard -- 13:57, 4/07/2019

Looks fine to me? Might be my screen though.

00:03, April 8, 2019 (UTC)

should add some shading to the chest area, close to the front leg if you get what I mean

i agree that it needs to be smoothed out– especially on the shoulder and the haunch. 13:16, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded If that doesn't work then I may need some recommendations.

19:53, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

You have some darker black pixels in the shading. Here are three things to help with smoothing the shading out:

1. Run the blur tool at a rate of 10px 100% strength

2. 10px smudge tool at 40% strength

3. Only if you're desperate, use Gaussian Blur at 1.0 several times  22:28, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

You can also smooth with the smudge tool.  Ellie  life is an illusion 06:18, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Believe it looks a bit better. 17:18, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Moss (KP) (KP)- For Evaluation
Comment Away!-- 18:54, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Looking good! Her muzzle looks a bit bright compared to the rest of her set, so darken it up a bit. Expand the shading everywhere, but particularly on the hind legs. 19:14, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Egg! I colorpicked off the loner, not sure why it looks brighter. Will fix momentarily. 19:45, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't want to expand it anymore on the tail, or I'll be told to define the light. 19:54, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe smoothen out and blur the shading more? -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  22:35, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Of course! I'll do that in a little bit. 22:39, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Shadow, can you be more specific on where it needs to be smoothed out? 22:52, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

The shading on the back of the haunch and shoulder! -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  22:58, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Can you expand it more on the <--- haunch and stomach? The shading is also leaking on the collar. Also, I feel like the shading tint clashes with the color of the image. Maybe make it darker? 23:14, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Vec, where is it leaking on the collar? And can I gently ask for a second opinion on the tint? Silverfur used a similar color on Flailfoot's tunneler. 23:37, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded for other commments 23:48, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

Darken and define the shading. I can't see it at all. ​​​

red line. And the tint is darker on Flailfoot's tunneler since it was tweaked. Darkening the tint might also help with darkening the shading overall, forgot to mention earlier ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 02:59, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

i appreciate you mentioning me ^^ could i ask what's the black specks near the rear leg? -- 11:34, 4/01/2019

To explain comments:

Vec: It isn't leaking, it's just light shading. I'll fix it next upload.

Silver: That's a layer goof, fix next upload.

Jayce: I'll saturate the shading a bit, but like 2 clicks or so otherwise it'll look neon. 22:06, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded here's your proof shading isn't leaking. Better? 23:06, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Could you make the shading a bit darker? I can't really see it. 23:09, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, I didn't say you had to saturate the shading. I couldn't see it, meaning it should probably have the opacity turned up. The tint itself is perfectly fine as-is, and you're right that multiple people have used that tint before. ​​​​

Reuploaded sorry, got confused with your's and Vec's comment. Anywho, I don't want to darken it much more or the lineart won't be noticeable anymore. Better? 23:31, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

The shading is leaking on the ears, belly, tail, legs and back ^^  -Shadow   It's a prosthetic  23:36, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

I think with the source I'm using, there shouldn't be shading on the back. Shadow, can you screenshot where? 00:11, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Looks like you've got waste all over the image. 01:46, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

I don't think there is any waste on my screen in PS, but this may be a result of blurring the shading and I'll check tomorrow. 02:09, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded you were right, and there was waste. If it is still showing up, I'll wave the eraser in those areas tomorrow. 02:32, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

going to nitpick on the shading as it's really light and makes the image odd. it can be tweaked by making the layer mutiply and making the tint a darker blue. -- 04:46, 4/02/2019

Reuploaded changes aren't showing yet. 21:43, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Changes are now showing. 22:09, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth the shading out more? 05:17, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

There's waste around the tail, paws and legs. 12:37, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I went ham with Gaussian Blur. Better? 22:36, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Blur the gray muzzle and ear-pink and I really can't tell where the light it coming from 00:19, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'll blur the muzzle, but can I gently ask for a second opinion on the earpink? On a previous declined art, I tried to blur it but it looked like a hot mess. The light is coming from the right, so the shading is on the left. 00:49, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded for paler muzzle if I need to blur more just let me know. 00:53, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

you still need to smooth out the shading. 02:17, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Used the smudge tool this time. 21:57, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Theres waste everywhere outside the image 23:53, 4/04/2019

Reuploaded if it's still there, idk what to tell you because I'm pretty sure I erased it all. 01:07, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

It is still there unless the changes are not showing. Try having a white background so that you can see the waste more clearly.

Reuploaded I think I got it all. 22:04, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth out the shading some more ? 14:23, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded also tweaked the paler muzzle. 15:23, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded again waste. It should be gone now, cause I noticed more and got my lucky lasso. 15:35, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Given the source, there wouldn't be any shading on the > side of the haunch, nor at the top of the shoulder, though it should extend higher up the arm from the bottom^^

Reuploaded  20:25, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

The waste is still there under the front arm. collar shading is leaking <-

define the light on the front leg nearest to us? -- 13:56, 4/07/2019

Reuploaded I'll get rid of the waste later. 15:18, April 7, 2019 (UTC)

Could you perhaps try smudging the muzzle, and using a tiny brush to smooth out the shading on the collar? 13:30, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I cannot smooth it out on the collar anymore, or it'll look odd. And I tried with the paler muzzle, but anymore smuding or it'll look too light than her other images. Better? 01:27, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Hate to be that person, but the shading on the collar still looks hard edged. Perhaps try a strong blur/smudge tool on the edge of the shading

Reuploaded Okay, positively sure I can't do anything about the collar shading now. 99.9% sure... 23:46, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

it honestly still looks hard edged. and theres definitely something you can do about it. also, the entire shading still needs to be smoothed out 08:41, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it more but I really like hard-edged shading styles (for ex. Wrenflight's star). I may need to define the light on the collar. And remove waste.. which I'll do after I fix Rootpaw. 22:04, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Wrenflight's star isn't in use nor is it approved. I think it could be smoothed a tad more around the middle.  Ellie  life is an illusion 06:15, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

There's still waste around the image.

Well, I thought of that non-use image first. Will reup soon. 22:59, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded oof is the waste still there?? 23:15, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

the shading still needs smoothing out. the issue with the shading is that you have it half blurred, half hard edged, and you should keep the style consistent. in addition, it is very hard to make hard edged shading looks good on solid cats. 02:27, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Alright then. I'm starting to not like the shading, going to redo it.. 14:27, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded forgot to mention I reupped an hour ago whoopsies 16:35, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Yoi still have some waste --Bluedragon64 (talk) 06:51, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

i think shading depth could be defined on the tail and hind legs a tad

Reuploaded  13:59, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

not sure if it's just me but the mouth linear art doesnt seem to be black

Rosetail (E) ~ CBA
back and ready for the elder rush

15:00, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Did you fill in the nose? It's either not filled in or is a very light color. Define/Darken it. 22:11, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

The nose is filled in and doesn’t need defining. ​​​​

Stripes seem to fade in color a bit more as they go down the front legs on the other images^^

Reuploaded

22:13, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. So I meant the stripes become almost lighter/less visible as they go down to the paws on the front legs, could you see about perhaps tweaking it a little more?

Still working? 17:12, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

23:16, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 15:04, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Light-colored Thunderclan Kit (K)
helloo this is a minor character from bluestar's prophecy so em here.

Waddle Dee; The Kirby Fanatic! 21:45, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

feel free to comment!

Don't thumb the image! Simply remove |right and that should fix it. Add earpink and shading to the back back foot, the shoulder on the front foot, and the haunch. Smooth out the shading, as it's very hard-edged. 21:54, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Fixed the shading!

Waddle Dee; The Kirby Fanatic! 22:16, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

I fixed the thumb. Don't do that in the future! Smooth out the shading more and expand it. Also remove "mod" from the file name.-- 22:44, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

I accidentally made the pixels bigger by alot, so I had to reupload it. Sorry for any inconvinience, but I'll try to work around it. Made the eyes have a bit more depth, tried to smooth the shading but not by alot. The image's name is BP.kit.lc Waddle Dee; The Kirby Fanatic! 11:31, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Shading needs to be added/defined/expanded/smoothed out. The file name needs to have the kit's number, not the pelt color. You also somehow deleted Star's comment?? 14:07, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

The file name isn't important right now, a lead can always rename it once it's been approved. But if you'd like to upload it under it's correct name, it would be BP.kit-2.png (it's the light colored thunderclan kit, i believe?) Do you need a shading placement guide for this? I could provide one if needed. Can you smooth the earpink and add some eye depth? 15:10, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me Patch. The earpink needs to be expanded to the left. Also, before you deleted her comment, Star said for you to blur/smudge the pale parts on his/her face. Maybe enlarge the pupil? It's kinda hard to see atm. 15:39, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

You've still got some time left, but are you still working? 18:54, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Silver Frost (E) ~ For Approval
pretty kitty 00:59, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light in the ear closest to us. 01:19, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded 01:43, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

I'm assuming your light source is heading < that way towards the cat, so remove the shading on --> side of the shoulder/forearm area, and ---> side of the haunch. 02:32, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a little bit, please. ​​​​​​

Reuploaded 23:15, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

define shading a little bit more on the ear furthest from us? -- 13:52, 4/07/2019

Hm. Vec's comment doesn't seem to have been addressed - the light source is contradictory as is. To most easily remedy what's there, the shading on the > side of the arm and the > side of the haunch, and any shading along the back that's further than the shoulder would need to be removed. Then, the shading'd be expanded to the tail tip, belly, < side of the chest, < side of the visible arm, along the backside of the cat and some reaching to the chin.

Reuploaded Spooky is shading all you're allowed to comment on? 01:47, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Uncalled for bro Malina457 (talk) 03:04, April 10, 2019 (UTC)malina

What seems to be the issue here? Spooky was just making a statement that Vec's comment hadn't been addressed; there's nothing wrong with that. ​​​​​

Lawl. Anyways, that did get most of it, but - expand it on the belly, add more light on the fully white front paw/lower leg (there's also some leaking from the top leg to the one beneath), it needs to be expanded > way on the haunch, and the tail tip shading cuts off rather abruptly, which looks a bit awkward.

Reuploaded it's official you can only comment on shading. 03:13, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

That was quite rude to call Spooky that all they can comment on is shading. Considering the light source, I think the haunch could be in shadow. -- 10:56, 4/13/2019

Yep^^ I've seen Spooky comment on many other topics before, not just shading. Anyways, smooth out the shading on the belly. 14:26, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

I think there's some missing lineart on the <-- ear. Mind checking up on that? 15:08, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm not sure how I was being rude... Also I have no idea what happened w/ the lineart but it's fine now. weird... 02:53, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Oh god, I'm sorry I said the wrong thing I meant the back fhgdfg im really sorry, you can erase the shading on the haunch -- 03:42, 4/14/2019

Tabby Warrior 1 (W) ~ For Approval
I hate doing the headings for these... 01:41, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

This may be hard, but define the tail shading a tad? It blends in with the brown. 01:44, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

could you dull that white down so that it looks like a pale part? also could you taper the stripes some?

smudge the stripes into a bit more of a taper at the ends, they're a little too paint-brushy 05:59, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

With all due respect, why can't I leave it white? I based this off my own kitty. Unless there's some rule with minor characters I missed...? 11:36, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Unless the character is described as tabby and white explicitly, adding white would be an assumption.

Reuploaded Uh... I tried. Also, RIP, sorry Misty that I couldn't make you a charart... If anyone finds a Leafpool-like cat with art to be done lmk? 23:15, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

There is quite a bit of waste outside the tail, and one small speck outside the chin/neck. 23:41, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

if there is supposed to be shading, could u define shading on the tail i can barely see it -- 13:58, 4/07/2019

Expand the shading on the < side of the lower back to curve down and meet with the pale bit down there - and remove the shading on the > side of the haunch, as the light source doesn't call for it.

Reuploaded If this isn't better then I need help. I also may have inadvertently lightened the overall shading more than I meant to... 01:47, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Hm yeah it is better but I'd re-darken that to a little past what it had been before.

Reuploaded Watch this introduce a whole slew of new problems w/ my luck... 03:13, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Flaxpaw (App) ~ CBA


03:48, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the legs?  Ellie  life is an illusion 04:55, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

06:57, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading depth? It looks flat. 12:09, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

maybe add some more leg and body stripes. 20:58, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

02:27, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

There's waste around the tail and along the back. 17:01, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

19:25, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 22:47, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to break, but shading could be added/defined on the stomach and -> side of the face

Reuploaded

08:15, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

There's also leaking shading along the back, and a bit patch from I presume the belly shading onto the ---> haunch. 18:38, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Given the source, I'm p sure the tail shading should be on the opposite side (the underside), some could stand to be added at the base of the chest, and some needs to be removed on the < side of the haunch

Reuploaded

19:24, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Re-CBA? 15:03, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Squirrelflight (Star) ~ CBA
I borrowed Feathertail's linear art.

could you possibly make the tail a bit bushier? from what I've been told, a squirrel tail tends to be pretty poofy. 21:09, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

They are extremely poofy, and as this is, I don't feel it matches her other images too well. ​​​

Agreed with Skt and Jayce. 00:13, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Can you also define the shading depth on the ginger a tad? Looks a leedle bit flat. 01:08, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded pooooooof

Re-uploaded changed tail pattern to match apprentice

Could you smooth the shading on the white paw?

There's some waste outside the --> cheek and in between the loop of the tail  23:09, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded

Could you possibly smoothen the tail lineart?  Ellie  life is an illusion 06:09, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uplaoded I tried??

There's some gray on her muzzle by the whiskers. 14:38, 4/12/2019

I zoomed in and.. i couldn't see anything. I tried reuploading and all but it just shows up like that on wikia. idk what I can do about it

Does this help? 02:42, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

But I can't do anything about it. There's no gray on the muzzle in my file that I can remove. It's likely wikia being annoying again

seriously its a little gray that is clearly the wiki's fault– imo theres no need to bombard this image with repeated comments 02:53, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Since that's something out of Fox's control, and I see nothing wrong with this, CBA? 14:53, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Myrtlekit (Ki) - for approval
First charart! I'm absolutely in love with her name... Myrtle- is a good prefix. Juniperbriar (talk) 14:26, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

This is really good! ^^ Define the shading depth; this can be done by adding another layer of shading, but increasing the opacity and not having the shading extend beyond the first layer. You can kinda see it on the image above, on the shoulder and flank. Brightheart's elder is also a clear example. 17:48, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Might fiddle with the shading some more. Juniperbriar (talk) 19:51, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Can you redden/dullen the earpink a little? It's a little too bright for the pelt color. This is really cute!! 20:11 Tue Apr 9

Reuploaded. Thank you! I also messed around with the shading some more and I'm happier with it now. Juniperbriar (talk) 20:24, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

since you know what you're doing more or less, I'll promote you to an apprentice; you can use for approval for your headings now. can you define the shading a bit more while you're at it?

Reuploaded. Juniperbriar (talk) 21:47, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

sorry to break cba, but can you remove that shading patch right on top of the back? its kinda redundant with your source 09:43, 4/13/2019

Shadepelt (TPB) (E) - CBA
yeh 20:07 Tue Apr 9

Smooth the tail shading? 21:01, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded we love a medicore shading job <span style="">23:31 Wed Apr 10

can you smooth and lighten the shading? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 06:55, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded redid the shading bc it was annoying me <span style="">01:22 Fri Apr 12

Hm. Could you recede the shading on the topside of the tail? Just given the source, it doesn't really make sense for both sides to be equally shaded, and having it just on the top would contradict, thus making the bottom a better placement. If you could define the shading on the earpink as well that'd be great

reuploaded <span style="">22:29 Fri Apr 12

CBA? 14:57, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Millie (E) - For Approval
I didn't have the file so I matched it the best I could <span style="">20:56 Tue Apr 9

would you like the file?

If you would, please. I lost the original elder file when my old computer killed over. dp404813@ohio.edu <span style="">23:35 Tue Apr 9

Should be sent! It's an xcf file though.. if you need me to convert it to a psd let me know

Yeah I think it needs converted ;_; I have never had success with opening .xcf files with either of my programs <span style="">14:21 Wed Apr 10

Converted and resent!

Reuploaded There we go <span style="">17:30 Fri Apr 12

This matches very well so.. CBA?

Side note though: there's waste near the muzzle

I really hate to do this, and correct me if wrong, but the light needs to be defined on the front legs. I also see waste under the the front leg closest to us. 14:24, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

I disagree on the shading. With that source most if not all light would be blocked there

Squirrelflight (L) - For Approval
The Queen ugh this pattern <span style="">20:58 Tue Apr 9

Can you add her torn ear? 21:00, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

I think this might be a Wikia thing, but her eyes seem lighter than her other images? Also, I love the bushy tail, it makes me happy. ​​​​​​​​

Maybe smooth out the shading on the <-- front leg? It looks really sharp compared to the rest of the shading. Juniperbriar (talk) 21:05, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

I took the eye color from the deputy that tail gives me life <span style="">21:52 Tue Apr 9

I believe she needs a torn eartip? Maybe I'm wrong though.

01:58, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

I agree that the eyes look darker on her other images

Reuploaded Then the eyes need darkened on the deputy. I may also mess with the tail to make it bushier. <span style="">14:38 Wed Apr 10

Could you smooth the shading on the white paw? Looks a lot more sharp there than elsewhere

I agree the tail needs to be bushier

Reuploaded This is handdrawn shading not texture. And she does have the white paw, her floof just covers a lot of it <span style="">17:32 Fri Apr 12

can you define the shading on the body a little bit? <span style="">22:30 Fri Apr 12

can you thicken the linearart on the tail? 01:24, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth the tail/body shading just a bit? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 02:23, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Kitepaw (A) - For Approval


07:22, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Lessen the earpink in the ear closest to us. Add/define the shading and I don't think reddish brown cats get parts? Pinestar and Oakheart don't have pale parts. 13:05, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Recently we allowed pale parts on several approved images. (OS-1 gray queen and OS-4 >i think< silver queen come into mind)

You are only allowed to do one "new" image at this time. Please either withdraw the black kit or this will be declined. 17:30, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Pale parts can be added yes, but they shouldn't be so prominent if not specified; in this case, as is, it contradicts the cite by making him a bicolor with two distinct shades. The other instances were less so of a difference, either in color or placement.

I removed the black kit, so I'm not doing it anymore.

06:56, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Nice so far^^ I added the date you reserved this on the table, remember to do that in the future! Not sure if it's just me, but the shading looks like it's leaking a little on the chest. 23:32, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

there's some waste around the image

gray warrior- for evauation
i know theirs no shading going to add it laterWillowstep12 (talk) 13:53, April 10, 2019 (UTC) reuploaded  added the shadingWillowstep12 (talk) 14:42, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Good first try! But can you desaturate the ear and nosepink? It's very neon as is, you should add some darker and lighter shades to the eye for gradient, the shading need darkening, and heavy expansion. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 15:06, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded is the earpink desaturated anoghtWillowstep12 (talk) 15:54, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Define/add shading and define your light source. I can't tell if there is shading. <span style="">16:24 Wed Apr 10

reuploadedWillowstep12 (talk) 17:24, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Darken the earpink, and add shading to the back foot closest to us. Connect the shading on the front leg closest to us. There should be more shading depth to the image. 21:36, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

The shading could also use some smoothing, and shading on the tail either needs to be added or defined, I believe. I think the current earpink darkness is alright, but it could use some desaturation to dull it. Juniperbriar (talk) 21:54, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded smoothed shadingWillowstep12 (talk) 14:50, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Shading needs to be smoothed more and the depth needs to be defined, all over. Define it especially on the back paws and tail. Line art appears to be blurred by the tail and front paw closest to us. Could you possibly desaturate the earpink and nose a little too? I think a paler pink would complement the gray better. 18:33, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

i wont be active for a week so please dont reject thisWillowstep12 (talk) 19:06, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Flutterkit (Ki) - For Approval
hi this is my warrior cats son <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 22:39, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

He needs to be short-furred, as all WindClan cats are given short fur unless stated otherwise. 00:55, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

reups didn't even know that was a rule but whatever. i liked it better long but its not like im allowed to argue <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 01:24, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a rule we put into effect a couple years ago based on statements in the series. Given you're not super active, it's not all that much of a shock that you didn't know. There's no need to be as harsh as you were, though. ​​​​​​

Brighten up the white. 01:47, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Dull down the earpink slightly Malina457 (talk) 18:09, April 12, 2019 (UTC)malina

reups sorry took me a bit to reup was busy. i tried but dont really know if I succeeded.. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 22:35, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me or does he look green?

it doesn't look green to me. could you define the light on the tail and paws?

idk from my screen he does look a little bit green as well 11:36, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Stonetooth (BP) (E) ~ For Approval
An attempt was made -Shadow   It's a prosthetic  22:57, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

I like the stripes! Can you expand the earpink to reach the edges of the ear? 23:09, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

The earpink doesn't seem to match to his other images (I checked) and should be expanded, he shouldn't have a pale belly (The StarClan doesn't show the belly however the Deputy does and it shows no pale in the area), His stripes appear to be a bit darker on the rest of his set than they are here, and maybe even a bit smoother, some also appear thinner on the rest of the set,and i also feel like the shading could do with some defining, I'm having a little trouble seeing it in some places, and can't tell where the lightscource is right now. But you did a pretty good job even though I don't make it sound so. i'm just bad with words lmao. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 23:11, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded! '''The stripes are a pain -Shadow   It's a prosthetic  00:03, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Make the dorsal stripe thinner; to match the star

Reuploaded! -Shadow   It's a prosthetic  21:03, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 14:56, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to break, but the stripes on the star seem to be thinner than what you have here. Also, the shading depth could be added everywhere

Crowtail (E) - CBA
StarClan will be done and posted in a little bit. Tried for a good two weeks to get a pattern I liked, came up with this. Not sure how I feel about it, and I am aware it probably looks "unrealistic". Since "realistic" tabby stripes are not a requirement, I think I can post this safely. ​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Define the shading on the legs a tad? Nah, I think you're fine if Tallpoppy's pattern remains untouched. 00:01, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Added some light instead of more shading, does that look better? ​​​​​​​​​​​​

OH yes it definitely does! 00:11, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, please refrain from unnecessary comments that are non-critiquing. Define the shading on the > ear a tad bit more? <span style="">12:01, 4/11/2019

As I said to Winter/Snowdapple on Discord, Potato's comment was in reply to my question, so it's perfectly acceptable. In this case, I don't want them getting into trouble for something I did ask them about. I'll get to tweaking this sometime tomorrow. ​​​​​​​​

Re-uploaded.

CBA?

Rootpaw (App)- For Evaluation
Here he is! Comments? First time trying texture. I freaking love him and his parents. Also, will remove that waste in a moment. 01:41, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded  01:46, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading, define the eye depth and add some shine to them as well. The shading appears to be leaking from the shading and on the chest next to the leg line art. Lighten the earpink too, it looks super dark. It also looks like there's some waste by the head. 02:06, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

I'll fix all these things tomorrow! Ah, I was suspicious something was bugging me. 02:12, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded will fix more stuffs tomorrow 02:23, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink. Also, if your light is coming from the front, there some be some light on the fronts of the forelegs and the chest 02:25, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Leaking shading by the belly and haunch, waste by the tail tip and shoulder/neck Malina457 (talk) 03:02, April 11, 2019 (UTC)malina

Try connecting the body texture to the hindleg texture. Right now the Hindleg texture just weirdly cuts off. (Something like this, excuse my sloppiness -> ) Tinystream (talk) 03:30, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

vary the texture slightly more so that it doesnt look as paintbrushy. i suggest using a smudge tool and running it in the direction of fur/drawing more texture lines. in addition, her color looks unrealistically saturated and slightly green. i suggest googling light ginger cats and color picking for a realistic base color 04:29, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Rootpaw should have shorthair lineart b/c it never said he had long fur--Bluedragon64 (talk) 09:07, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

fur length is artist's choice when unstated. 09:12, April 11, 2019 (UTC) Understood--Bluedragon64 (talk) 09:33, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

I colorpicked off Tree's MCA. Why does that look unrealistic? Malina, can you circle where? 13:05, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

IMO the image looks slightly green. Might be because of the texture/shading, but it could stand to be tweaked


 * I think it also has something to do with the black/blue based shading on top of yellow. I know shading tint is artist's choice but I think you'll have less problems if you used a darker orange or even red on top of yellow 16:47, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

I'll try to address all of your comments! I learned from reading an archive that red is a good shade for yellow cats (Gooseberry's queen I think). I'll reupload later. Also yep fur length is my choice, I made him to resemble his "weird" father. 22:03, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:39, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

There’s some waste by the tail and ears! On the edges of the image/canvas. -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  22:53, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Around the ENTIRE tail. (my bold isnt working, sorry) Malina457 (talk) 00:14, April 12, 2019 (UTC)malina

this is turning out better. you need to define the shading everywhere, and also smooth it out on the tail and the belly. it appears that the shading is leaking in some places, which is probably a result of abusing the blur tool. in this case i still highly recommend the smudge tool at 10-20 px to achieve the same effect as the blur tool, but better without the risk of having the shading leaking 00:28, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded  01:25, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

smooth shading on the backleg furthest from us -- 03:36, 4/12/2019

Seems like the shading is leaking on the chest, legs and tail. also can you smooth out the shading on the legs and tail? the texture also needs to follow the fur flow. what you have here looks like it's crisscrossing

Reuploaded redid shading with a lot of smoothing out, will reup for waste in a momento 22:49, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded waste has been killed via lasso 22:57, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Can u define shading on the left side of it's face? Bluedragon64 (talk) 23:31, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

There shouldn't be any shading with my source there, I think. I'll check my reference image to see if I need to place some there though. 23:50, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

smooth out the shading everywhere/define the gradient. 01:11, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded also darkened the shading a bit. 01:40, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

it still needs smoothing out

Reuploaded oh StarClan halp the shading is icky now 02:39, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

not sure if you removed the texture but i can't really see it on my screen? also sorry to be a pain  perhaps the shading could be blurred/smudged/smoothed out more

I did remove the texture- I was struggling with it. I'll blur (and possibly redo) the shading again tomorrow. 05:17, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded waste will be gone in a jiffy 14:19, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded  14:22, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

define the shading on the legs, define the depth on the chest, and smooth it out slightly on the haunch 01:54, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

define the light on the tail

Reuploaded will remove waste later. 14:20, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

WindClan gray tom ~ For Approval
I didnt know whether willow was doing the unknown affiliations one or the windclan one so I just did this one? also am not too sure about the darkness :/ couldn't see it too well on my screen but will probably lighten it for the next reup

There's a glob of waste below where the tail curves. Tinystream (talk) 03:09, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

reups also lightened it (considerably) and played around with the shading

reups tweaked the shading since i wasn't too happy with it

This is really good! I'm gonna bump ya up to an apprentice since you seem to know what you're doing. And perhaps define the shading depth? 12:16, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Recede the chest shading a little and add some on the nose^^

reups

can you define the shading depth jsut a litte? 13:58, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

reups

Sunbeam (W) ~ For Approval
i realize the shading is all kinds of wack will fix that tomorrow. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 07:40, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

I don't know if straight uppurple eyes should be used. purple tinted blue sure, but purple eyes is pushing even the "realism isn't such a thing in warriors" and it's only ever been a mistake. 07:58, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

I meam, warriors doesn't even really go off of realism so.. and i had the kit have purple eyes and nobody said anything. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 17:01, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

That was due to the smaller scale, and I was going to comment on that one. Most things in this world do not have purple eyes, I think you should change it to be a bit more blue-ish Malina457 (talk) 17:28, April 11, 2019 (UTC)malina

Could you smudge the white just ever so slightly, more so on the chest? It just looks a little hard-edged compared to the other white markings. 20:53 Thu Apr 11 2019

Agreed on the eyes; Also, could you define the facial shading? I can't see any at all. ​​​​​​​​

Re-Ups <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 23:40, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

The eyes are still purple. Disregard my comment if this has been fixed, but I agree with the eye statement. Please make them more blue <span style="">14:35, 4/12/2019

I did make them more blue, wikia seems to have glitched on showing it... <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 16:47, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

I'll play with the eyes tomorrow and see if I can fix it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 01:36, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Rootpaw (K) ~ CBA
Colorpicked from his apprentice. 19:30, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

His eyes are lighter darker on the apprentice. Do you need the psd. or do you want any hex codes from the apprentice? 22:00, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

If you could send me the psd that would be great^^ dunno if you have discord or not, you could send me it through there or via email. 22:41, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

I have Discord and can email it to you. My Discord is Greenflower#7496. 23:06, April 11, 2019 (UTC) 23:03, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 23:47, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Texture should be much fainter. It's on 18% opacity on the apprentice. 23:52, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Honestly, the apprentice is so faint I can't see it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 23:58, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

The texture is on 18%. 00:01, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. Seems like shading

It's shading. Honestly texture doesn't have to match 1000%. <span style="">14:34, 4/12/2019

I can confirm it is shading^^ my shading usually looks a bit like texture. Matched the actual texture to that of the apprentice as close as I could. 14:43, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Songkit (Kit) ~ CBA
it is she 20:09, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

There should be a tinnnnny bit of shading on the ear farthest from us, it looks flat. You also need to fix the heading, it lacks "For Approval". 21:59, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

can you define the eye color a bit? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion

Re-Uploaded! (and sorry for the lack of 'for approval', i was a little tired when i submitted this..) 01:42, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Torties are tri-colored. Is there another color on this? All I'm seeing is brown and ginger <span style="">14:33, 4/12/2019

Torties are not three colored, calicos are. This looks fine to me Malina457 (talk) 17:40, April 12, 2019 (UTC)malina

Torties are just any coat color (other than white) and ginger..? 18:00, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Youre correct on that, only thing i may be able to comment on is smooth the tail shading? Malina457 (talk) 18:08, April 12, 2019 (UTC)malina

can you maybe define the ginger or whatever a bit more? 18:45, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded! 22:01, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

oops my bad <span style="">23:11, 4/12/2019

CBA? 15:00, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Blazefire (W) ~ CBA
Blazefire, sweetie, you're doing amazing. 19:56, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Can you lighten and smooth the shading on the back some? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 20:02, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Reups 20:31, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

could you define the facial shading?

It honstly looks fine to me.Bluedragon64 (talk) 10:33, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Nope agreeing with Fox. I can hardly tell it's there. 13:01, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reups 18:36, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

I don't see any flaws CBA? Bluedragon64 (talk) 21:41, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Appreciate it, but only leads are allowed to CBA an image. 21:46, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Bluedragon, you are not a lead and can't CBA images. Sorry! Only SW and above can! 21:47, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Oh sorry. I didn't know. Bluedragon64 (talk) 23:04, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Could you add shading to the back back foot?

Reups yep 15:03, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Softpelt (W) ~ For Approval


i don't think there'd be much light on the back leg

the back leg furthest from us isnt filed in -- 08:46, 4/12/2019

Reuploaded Yeah rip didn't have it filled in at all... forgot it was supposed to be.

Tbh if the light is coming from above (which it seems to be) there wouldn't be any light on that back leg.

The source is coming from > way, not the top (as I currently have shading on the forehead and such)

Lightleap (W) ~ For Approval
here's my first pixel lol Tybaxel (talk) 00:54, April 12, 2019 (UTC)Tybaxel

Don't thumb your images! I fixed it for you. Define the shading, and your lightsource. Smudge the pale parts into her fur more. 00:58, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded my bad! Tybaxel (talk) 01:27, April 12, 2019 (UTC)Tybaxel

Define the shading more. 01:42, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

From the looks of the kit, it doesn't have pale parts so i believe that should be removed. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 01:49, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

imo she looks a little crosseyed -- 03:08, 4/12/2019

reuploaded fixed but i don't know how to define the shading anymore than i already have lol. also i did not see a kit sprite anywhere for her so i just made a design from scratch Tybaxel (talk) 11:20, April 12, 2019 (UTC)Tybaxel

this is his kit image: File:Lightkit.kit.png. correct me if im wrong, but i dont think it is mandatory to match it since it is not in use. 11:23, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

it still needs to match up to tigerstar. 11:26, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

match up to tigerstar? so should i color pick from tigerstar’s sprite? and remove the pale parts? to be fair the pale parts are really low opacity though. i just added them for realism. Tybaxel (talk) 11:20, April 12, 2019 (UTC)Tybaxel

Remember to not thumb your images! Simply go to File:Lightleap.warrior.png and scroll down. Click "Upload a new version of this file" and insert the changes. Then come back here and indicate you reuploaded. That way there's no thumb. 13:06, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

imo it matches enough. he doesnt have to be 100% identical 13:25, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

This needs to match the kit since it matches Tigerstar and the kit didn't look as though it had pale parts, we can't add things to match realism if another in the set doesn't have it imo <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 16:54, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

but the kit sprite isn’t even in use. it’s outdated. it’s not going to be used anymore so i don’t see any reason to copy the old kit design...plus i think i made her look enough like tiger? it’s a dark brown tabby, not all of them will look identical :( if you really want me to i can make her identical Tybaxel (talk) 17:03, April 12, 2019 (UTC)Tybaxel

I think it matches closely enough, it looks just like Tigerstar Malina457 (talk) 17:37, April 12, 2019 (UTC)malina

It's a lovely image regardless, but if we made Tigerstar Sr and his tabby offspring have almost the exact stripes, and match all the colors for the other "a looks just like b" (Twig and Hawk, Sandy and Fin, etc), then I agree that this needs to match Tigerheart/star. Here the tail stripes are too thick, and the main stripes are too close together. 18:32, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

understandable.. i will wait for some more input though before i go in and change it since i am kind of proud of the stripes i already made lol Tybaxel (talk) 20:23, April 12, 2019 (UTC)Tybaxel

It isn't in use because the blanks were remade that doesn't mean we should throw that one away just because imo <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 20:41, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

I'm sure this could be used elsewhere, but current site policy does dictate that in cases where cats are said to be "identical"; they need to be... identical. The not-in-use image is a moot point at this point as article content cites always override artistic choices, so he has to match Tigerheart/star.

How is it moot? She was tweaked to match tigerstar.. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 20:51, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Having a not-in use image doesn't matter, when the book cites override to just say match directly. This should be matched directly to Tigerstar - now that the kit isn't in use, the artist can better match exactly to his pattern and placement. Saying they should match the kit isn't the best course of action as it differs from Tigerstar's set. While close, and while it was tweaked to match better, going straight to the source of the father's set, to accurately reflect the book cites, is what we should do to be the most true to the canon we have.

I could send you Tigerheartstar's leader file, if that would help. 22:31, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded i've matched her colors and stripes to match to tigerstar's. let me know if anything else should be tweaked Tybaxel (talk) 23:26, April 12, 2019 (UTC)Tybaxel

can you define the depth of the shading? 05:51, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded i've defined the shading as much as i can :( it's hard to see it since her fur is already dark Tybaxel (talk) 16:33, April 13, 2019 (UTC)Tybaxel

Wrenkit (SC) (k) ~ For Approval
baby -- 03:07, 4/12/2019

can you define the eye color/depth? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 04:32, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Remove the shading on the back that's above the haunch; it wouldn't all be in shading given the source

add some shading to the bottom haunch too

Reups -- 10:48, 4/13/2019

smooth out the haunch shading

Stonepelt (e) ~for approval
he wishes to be a cool kid -- 03:45, 4/12/2019

There should be some stripes above the eyes I think. 18:24, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading at the base of the chest

Define the leg, ear, and face shading as well. 22:56, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

will reup later. i know therese waste -- 10:41, 4/13/2019

reups -- 10:51, 4/13/2019

It could still stand to be defined in those areas I mentioned by a tick more. It's still pretty hard to see. 12:39, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

I thinm its fine? I can see them just fine. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 06:55, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Woodpaw (App) - For Approval


Second attempt at doing a charart. Let's hope my files don't get deleted 04:48, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Don't thumb your images, or, in your case, have |left in the file. :) 05:15, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define your light source? (or at least the light on the face)? 05:32 Fri Apr 12 2019

Reuploaded - Tried to define the head light source a bit. I imagine that it's a setting sun glowing overhead, slightly setting down over it's rump. (If that makes sense)  06:05, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

I think the leg light coukd be defined more, can't really see it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 06:00, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Which leg, sorry? 06:05, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

All of them, imo. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 06:19, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Cloud With Storm in Belly (E) - For Approval
my shading tint is red 05:15, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the light on the front leg closest to us? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 06:19, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 13:57, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

could you smooth out the shading on the haunch?

Sparkpelt (Q) - For Approval
i tried. color picked everything from her warrior file 06:45, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

hm i believe her stripes are slightly more hard edged and are more spacious? 07:59, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

yeah her stirpes should be more spacious. Bluedragon64 (talk) 10:42, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Bluedragon, please don't repeat comments. Smooth the shading on the tail a little? <span style="">14:31, 4/12/2019

Re-uploaded part of the problem with the tail shading is that the brunt of the shading is on top of the tail dorsal stripe 16:00, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

I know you said that you color picked from the files, but the stripes here seem much darker than the rest of the set, including the warrior. 18:21, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

the stripe colour is just the base on multiply, i think. been a while since i made that 18:40, April 12, 2019 (UTC)


 * did you put the texture layer over or under the tabby? 19:07, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

underneath. if the stripe colouring doesn't look right after maybe just mess around witht opacity of the stripe layer a wee bit. 00:54, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 05:26, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

honestly her stripes still kind of look darker than the apprentice. also, i still believe that they are slightly more spacious 05:50, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:27, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

ugh i hate to repeat comments, but i do still think the stripes look darker here. 13:42, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Tawnyspots (E) - CBA
ah a tabby pattern from another era... honestly i kinda want to revamp the whole set 06:45, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

COuld you smooth the shading on the tail?

Re-uploaded 05:25, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Eaglewing (W) ~ For Approval
Can someone rename the image for me? I added the extra to distinguish her from on of the OC's I created an image for who has the same name, and forgot to change it before I uploaded this. All colors from kit/apprentice images. Comments? 19:10, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Renamed it for you ^^ 21:46, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

maybe smudge the stripes a teeny bit, or perhaps blur them on the tail? they look more hard-edged than the apprentice 01:48 Sat Apr 13 2019

Reuploaded. Can't smudge the stripes, as they aren't smudged on the apprentice. 19:22, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Silverflame (E) ~ CBA
Challenging but fun. 19:27, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Fixed a few things. 19:45, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reups ok I'll stop. 01:12, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Very pretty. CBA?

Nightfur (E) ~ For Approval
Comments? 23:23, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe smooth out the shading? -Shadow  It's a prosthetic  23:44, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:55, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Flamekit (TC) (K) - For Approval
"whats a good name for a black kit?" 23:32 Fri Apr 12 2019

I think this is purrfect! Bluedragon64 (talk) 23:33, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

I thinm you've been told this before but we aren't suppose to comment if it isn't helpful to fixing the image. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 02:20, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth out the shading on the haunch? and yes obviously this is artists choice, but have you considered making his eyes flame colored to match his name? just a suggestion 03:27, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded that was such a dope suggestion - cheers burnt! (i was just shocked by his description and name lol) 23:33 Sat Apr 13 2019

Nightstar (E) - CBA
he really got the short end of the stick 23:32 Fri Apr 12 2019

cba?

Pigeonfoot (W) ~ For Approval
ok uhm not sure about this one rip

23:38, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

can you define the shading depth some? <span style="">04:42 Sun Apr 14

Fogkit (Ki) ~ For Approval
Tiny -Shadow   It's a prosthetic  23:42, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

define light more on the front paw near the tail, also the same comment spooky left on wrenkit. -- 10:39, 4/13/2019

Reuploaded! -Shadow   It's a prosthetic  16:50, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

add more shading on the haunch? this looks perfect ^^ -- 03:40, 4/14/2019

Could you darken the shading some too? Its really hard tok see it on the white. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 06:53, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Applepaw (a) - for approval
this looked better in ps... when you zoomed in 400% of course 01:50, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the stripes? They look more like mottles atm. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 02:21, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

reup i tried. i was envisioning her to be some sort of spotted tabby 05:46, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

She needs to be short-furred, since she's a WindClan cat. 16:30, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

There's some waste outside her tail, legs, and chest/stomach area. 19:13, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

reup 01:48, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the shading a bit more by just a few ticks? 02:24, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

reup kind of revamped the shading 06:52, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Bristlefrost (W) ~ For approval
same colours as i got the file from spooky, i just use different methods like my highlights 18:16, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

i believe that the texture is slightly softer and less dense on the app 01:50, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Breeze That Rustles the Leaves (TB) - For Approval
Tribe cats are best cats. And no, this is not a debate, let me rave about the Tribe. ​​​

I'm pretty sure tge earpink should be opposite of where its at by the way the ear is pulled back. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 21:04, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

shouldnt there be mud on the pelt? also iirc the earpink can be wherever the oa decides <span style="">00:18, 4/14/2019

can you smooth the body shading out some? <span style="">00:39 Sun Apr 14

Earpink is artist's choice, I think Jayce put it in a really nice spot! 00:47, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

I honestly made the blank with no set ear pink placement in mind. ^^ And can you add some shading behind the <--- front leg on the belly? With your light source, I'd think there would be some. 02:19, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

I knkw earpink is artist choice but I was going off the reference of the blanks and the way the ear itself is pointed. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:#000080; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.22em; font-size:90%"> Ellie <span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#25383C; text-shadow:#737CA1 0.2em 0.1em 0.19em; font-size:110%"> life is an illusion 06:50, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the face

Splashkit (TBC) (Ki) ~ For Approval
Not sure how I feel about this. Tinystream (talk) 22:10, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Reup Defined the shading and fixed a few mistakes. Also, to help, the light source is coming from the top left and the shading tint is green. Tinystream (talk) 22:31, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Polite suggestion here, maybe dont use green shading on a brown cat? Malina457 (talk) 00:57, April 14, 2019 (UTC)malina

If used properly, green is a perfectly acceptable tint. Sometimes it can make the cat look green, but this doesn't look green. The tint works here imo 02:16, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

perhaps taper the stripes some?

Reup I can't draw tabbies. Also got rid of the highlights since the stripes in the highlights looked weird, plus it didn't really add any depth. If you want me to add the highlights back, just ask. Tinystream (talk) 05:14, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Sun Shadow (Star) ~ For Approval
my bby boi deserved so much better than this ;-;