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Sorreltail (Star) ~ For Approval
whispers lets get this approved quick i'm gonna be without internet soon 03:43, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Awww... I liked Sorrel... Give more depth to the shading on the back, especially on the black patches 04:39, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I know, Scarlet, I know. ;-; 05:07, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the flecks a bit and this is awesome.

Re-uploaded. eep 06:06, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

That‘s a good picture. I think you do it very well.

but you should add more dark black -stealfog  21:00,5th,Nov.2013

Blur the flecks more and lower the opacity on them the slightest bit. 13:20, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the patches a bit and possibly define the eye depth? Very pretty! 17:03, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Either smudge or blur the shading on a low rate. Such a pretty dead cat. 17:25 Tue Nov 5

I think the opacity of the flecks are fine, since it'll appear a bit lighter when it's blurred ouo 21:22, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm not blurring the flecks anymore now. 03:04, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading and remove the smudging on it? It kinda makes it not match since the other images don't have any smudging. Also add a bit of shading to the bottom of the tail?

Sorry, but imho you should blur the flecks more. On all of Sorrel's other images, the flecks are fainter than these. Please blur them more. Nice job so far.. 21:37, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I think they're fine. I thought you meant me for a minute x3 21:42, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Darkfrost though, just a tiny bit more. 02:52, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Lol sorry, I should have just said Sorreltail xD 03:31, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I disagree, the blurring's fine really. The opacity could maybe be lightened a bit, but otherwise, I see no issue with them.

I may ad well withdraw this seeing as I won't be able to upload. 22:15, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I'll take over. 23:36 Thu Nov 7

Re-uploaded. Changes are here if they aren't showing. Comments? 0:26 Fri Nov 8

Sorry to but in but Sorreltail is dead?? I thought she was alive! User:Neverendingmoon

Please do not comment unless it is constructive critisism for the image. 1:05 Fri Nov 8

Define her eye depth a smidge? This is lovely, Hawk. 23:57, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine, but if anyone disagrees I'll gladly define it. 0:07 Sat Nov 9

The image looks blurry to me. I don't know if it's the gaussian blur, or..not sure. But it's really blurry. Looks good, though. c: 01:23, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia's being a butthead with the changes. It'll fix itself soon enough. x.x

Blur the <<< foreleg shading just a tad? This is wonderful! 14:18, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you, Beebs. ♥ 14:54 Sat Nov 9

Add a couple more dapples 07:25, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 16:07 Sun Nov 10

I love this! Maybe make the little spots on her back less noticeable, because in the other images, it doesn't really look as sharp as this. -- 17:34, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Blizzardwing (A) - For Approval
If the changes aren't showing, see here, comments? I'm quite fond of this 05:00 Tue Nov 5

Smudge the mottles tad? I love this c: 17:23 Tue Nov 5

I personally think they look okay, but I'll smudge them if someone else agrees. 19:22 Tue Nov 5

I think the mottles are fine as well. Maybe define the eye depth a bit? Nice job, he's gorgeous! 21:23, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

It looks kinda green... 05:00, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

I think the warrior's much more blue-green than this. I think the tinting it currently has is fine.

Actually, this tinting makes it too dark. Here was my version when I was doing him: I'll also give you the colors and instructions that were given from Loonie to Ravenfrost, then passed to me in case I decided to do this image again..

Layer 1: Solid white.

Layer 2: Very, very pale gray texturing.

Layer 3: Mottle color: #ebecbf = Pale yellow. Do on 75% Opacity.

Layer 4: Mottle color: #c6c7c7 = Pale gray. Do on 100% Opacity.

Layer 5: Shading and highlights. Shading color: #1a3952. 2 highlights: #feffao and white: on the nose, chest and top of tail.

Hope that made sense... ;) Keep it up. 13:16, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I think this image looks perfect and matches the warrior about as well as humanly possible. Great job Wildd! 14:49 Thu Nov 7 2013

Reuploaded I personally think it matches too, and Darkfrost; I used the hex codes for this. - 20:16 Thu Nov 7

Wow, Wildd. That's stunningly beautiful. :O You're extremely good! Great job. c: 21:36, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps fill in the nose? 00:48, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

The nose is filled in, check the previous reupload. 04:33 Fri Nov 8

Blur/smudge the chest shading just a little? Very good! 14:22, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded, hows this? -- 20:28 Sat Nov 9

Define the light source in regard to the head 07:26, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Lightning Tail (Ki) ~ For Approval
Beebs thank you so much you are amazing. So here is my darling and I am not changing the eye color because of reasons. Nor will I lighten him, but I will fiddle with the shading and/or texture.

Lighten him a tad so I can see the shading and texture. x3 Wonderful Skye~ 13:19, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

I said I wasn't going to lighten him, Duck. This is because the base is light enough as it is, and if it's any lighter, it'll be gray. I did fiddle with other things, though, so re-uploaded.

There's some waste between the fur on this >>> side of the head. So sweet. 17:18 Tue Nov 5

Re-uploaded. Thank youu~

Define the shading justtt a little bit, and I think he'll be good. Wonderful, Skye. 21:21, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Mmm I've gotta say that you might lighten him just a touch. I still can't see the texture/shading very well. <span style="">3:10 Wed Nov 6 2013

I can't lighten him anymore after this without him looking a lot lighter than he should be. After all, he is black. So re-uploaded and if he still looks odd, I'll try something else instead.

I still can't see the lineart, texture, or shading. 02:53, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Agreeing with Duck, he needs to be lighter. 03:40, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I will not lighten him anymore. Either you respect that choice as an artist's decision, or do not comment please. If you have other ideas as to how to make it more visible, please say so. If I lighten him anymore he will gray, and he is black. Wikia's being an idiot and not showing changes, so you might not even be seeing the right one, which is here.

Um, it looks a bit to light now. How it was on the previous upload was just right. <span style="">4:56 Thu Nov 7 2013

Reverted, as I agree.

Woah, Snowy, follow your own rules as quoted in the past to me: "You do what the comments tell you to do, since they have a better perspective." Yeah I re-worded it due to lack of remembrance of the right words. But, you cannot make a demand or a stand like that, no matter if you are the PCA deputy. Everyone has a liking on their own image, which you do, but to the surrounding users, it could look like crap. -No offense, this looks really amazing, just an example.- So, I believe you shouldn't come out rudely and say "I will not lighten him anymore. Either you respect that choice as an artist's decision, or do not comment please." To me, personally when I read that, it sounded like a threat. If he needs to be lightened so we can see the lineart, you do that, since not all black cats are as dark as hell. Or, increase the brightness of the texture, darkness of shading. Or, if you wish to not lighten it, explain kindly why you won't, or can't or else this will happen. Not to go off and threaten. I did not mean for this to be a jab, or a hidden threat. But I believe you should have respect for every PCA user, and not threaten them. Everyone is seeing this behavior, and it's becoming a very bad habit for you... Once again, not a threat, just a warning for future clashes. Wow, now this is the longest PCA message I've ever written xD. 13:04, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

And also, I lose the texture as it gets to the shading. It's like it disappeared. Fix that, please and thanks. 13:07, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

She's not threatening. And it's her image, and besides, I think it is the darkness is perfectly fine. What you're saying, Dark, is almost insulting Snow, and it's not a "bad habit" at all. And don't say "it could look crap to other users" as that is very rude. There are plenty of words that could sound less offensive. I'm with Cloud here, the dark is fine. Also, that is uncalled for. Raelic think's it was okay before so Snow reverted, and there was no need for you to say that. 13:38, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

I was not rude or offensive. I was extremely nice about it. Some PCA apprentices and kits are just getting fed up with her coldness toward us on occasion, so I thought I should bring up a hint at what were feeling. And, I checked my wording with several others and they said the wording was not rude or offensive, and that it was just a pointer. Instead, I did say "Not a threat, just a warning for future clashes" didn't I? Instead, Raelic has told Ravenfrost in the past that "you will fix this if someone asks you to" and I believe Cloudy should, too. There's no room here for special modifications for leads. And seriously, that comment up there sounded like a threat to me. And also about my comment, I didn't mean for it to be a jab. So yeah, that's my last comment on this matter. But, I'm sorry Sorrel if I did sound offensive, I was just gently pointing out her wording, and giving her an example of what she could've said, instead of sounding threatening. Sorry for misinterpretations on my comments.. 21:46, November 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * Darkfrost, a tip on confronting people about certain aspects is use solid evidence through linking, make sure that you don't mislabel a group on what their outtake is, and keep in mind who your audience is.


 * At the same time, while I may disagree with stylistic writing choices of Darkfrost's, her point is still valid. When you put up character art for approval, you are asking for critiques. What exactly does the title "For Approval" mean if you refuse to acknowledge valid critiques because of just your opinion? There are other people who will back either you or another person's comment, because the reason why we go through this entire process of approval is to make it better. 22:07, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

You will fix something if other users critique it, however, you can challenge the critique or refuse to change parts an image if only one user wants it to be changed, as even the artist's opinion on the image is important. I asked Snowman to revert the image as I believe that it was just fine before and that the current image is too dark. She agreed with me and then there were two people on either side of the argument, making it the artists choice and their opinion valid. That's really all there is to it? I don't see how your comment was at all necessary as she did nothing wrong in this instance, and your wording was anything but gentle.

And another note, no matter what your opinion on the artist, nitpicking for the sake of giving the artist a hard time is rude and completely unnecessary. Don't you say that's not what you're doing as the evidence in and the tone of your comments suggests anything but. If you have a problem with a user please take it up with them on your own time, or if it is really bad and encompasses the whole project take it to the project talk page, but leave it off of the approval page. This is where images are to be critiqued and approved, and if a issue comes up with behavior relating directly to the image they can be brought up there and some comments can be made or information giving, but they are not to bring up vendettas and complaints against other users in the project. We are not going to have fighting on this, capiche? <span style="">22:18 Thu Nov 7 2013


 * Darkfrost, the texture is fine, and I don't see how it blends with the shading. Also, it's my choice not to lighten him. The base (without shading and texture) is pretty much a neutral gray, which is light enough for a black cat. I was /not/ threatening anyone, and I simply used italic texture in place of //, because I felt like it. My attitude is perfectly fine, and just because I disagree with a critique that is made, gives you no real reason whatsoever to accuse me of threatening people.


 * "Everyone is seeing this behavior, and it's becoming a very bad habit for you..."


 * And for your information, I do consider this highly offensive, and because you've offended me, I am choosing to disregard your critiques on this image (not any others, just this one), because of how badly that offended me. Your opinion on me does not represent the entirety of the project. I come back from working a nine hour day to see something like this on an image that, quite frankly, I am extremely proud of and for one of my favorite characters in the entire series? Dude, I have no idea what your issue is with me, but it needs to stop. I was not threatening anyone; and pretty much everyone in PCA or those who personally know me, know that if I threaten you, you'll know it. This was not a threat, and I did explain why I didn't want to lighten him- the base was light enough as it was, and it appears that you've overlooked my comment on that.


 * I reverted Lightning Tail's image to the previous upload, because it was suggested that I do so, and I agreed with Breezey's comment. And now I am speaking as the deputy of the project, as well as a member of this wiki's staff, not as artist of this image: this will cease, now. If there is a personal issue, you will bring it to my talk page, not PCA. As multiple users have once said, you have to earn my respect, and me just being "nice" to people isn't going to happen. I'm sorry if I've offended you by not giving you instant respect, but that's just how I roll. I do assume good faith, however.


 * Now, does anyone actually have any constructive comments on this image? Or, if it's too dark for anyone, perhaps a suggestion or two for me to lighten it /without/ touching the basepelt? Like maybe a shading tint or something along those lines?

I don't see anything wrong with this, other than that it could be darkened a shade or two. This is amazing 23:37, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. While I didn't darken it, I did play around with the shading and redid that, along with a couple other things, since I didn't want to make him too dark, since that's what started this in the first place. ._. If changes aren't showing, look here.

I'm sorry for accidentally offending you, Cloudy, and I do hope to earn your respect one day. But please listen to my critique..The texture gets lost in the shading. 00:36, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

And I disagree with your critique. I've already said that before. Repeating yourself will only make things worse. If someone else, like say a more experienced user of the project (no I'm not saying you don't know anything. ._.), were to agree with you, then I'd see what I could do.

Possibly lighten the black just a tiny bit? I can't really see the texture once it hits the shading, but if you lighten the shading any more it'll seem too faint or flat. 00:47, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Please tell me you're not looking at the image on Wikia; the changes are being idiotic and please look here.

Could you define the shading on the front legs? It looks a bit flat there. 16:20, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine, but I'm always willing to go change it if others agree. ^^

I'm going to have to agree with Misty on this one. <span style="">20:22 Sat Nov 9

Reuploaded. This is annoying. I want my CS5, I hate working with GIMP. .-.

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink a touch more then maybe we go CBA? 07:29, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Isn't that optional? If it is, I'd sorta rather not do it if no one minds. Sometimes I like to smudge, other times I don't. Depends on the image.

Thorn (Ro) ~ For Approval
Eh. Comments?

Define the shading and add some depth to it if possible, it's lookin' a little flat at the moment. <span style="">07:48 Tue Nov 5

Add a little more texture? It's great, Silver c: <span style="">12:48 Tue Nov 5

Texture is completely optional. 13:19, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. Cute! <span style="">17:12 Tue Nov 5

Reuploaded (See hereif the changes aren't showing.) Thanks for your lovely and helpful comments ^3^

Darken, define, and add depth to the shading. 21:20, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded See here if the changes aren't showing.

There is waste under the tail. Also, define the shading on her side, in the middle around the spot of light. 18:17, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded (See here if the changes aren't showing) I changed the shading placement again n_n" Sorry. It's still similar though.

Blur the shading more. What program do you use? <span style="">22:01 Wed Nov 6

GIMP

If you use the airbrush for the shading, you may want to just go over a section once with a black shading color, that way it doesn't get over defined. Or, just make the shading have more intensity as it goes away from the lightsource. But I'd say this shading is slightly over defined.. I guess I'll show you one of my private images for an example..xD I'm addicted with Ezimba. I'm their number 1 visitor lately. Here: On that one I made it light-ish, and not too dark or else I wouldn't be able to see my texture anymore. But here's a solid: On that one, though, I may not have defined it enough..xD But, just keep in mind: The darker the cat, the darker the shading, the lighter the cat, the lighter the shading. :3 -is a very wise kitteh xD- Also, this may be the longest section I've ever written in PCA..lol 12:52, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well my method for shading is to take a super fuzzy smudge tool, make it about 30px or so, and gently smudge the edges of the shading back and forth, to make it seem a bit more blurred. As for Dark's comment about darkness and base colors, that's untrue, for the most part. Shading darkness is up to the artist, but the artist has to pull it off- you can have it as dark as you want to as long as it looks nice. 01:02, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took parts of methods and put them together to change the shading a bit. Now with texture! :D (I can remove it if you want, though). Changes here

There is waste all around the image. Nice! <span style="">16:02 Fri Nov 8

Extend the closest foreleg highlight down to her paw. Very nice! 14:19, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading and maybe add more depth too. :)

Could you define the unshaded parts on his legs? The back leg that's closest to us is fine, though ^^  16:26, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Just realized I've been using the wrong line art this entire time.Changes here If this is my attention span during my spare time, I'm concerned about my attention during school

Erase the waste by the flank 07:29, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I have, it's just the reupload system is messing with everyone. I have a link provided above to the real picture.

Smear pelt into the earpink. 12:30, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Badgerfang (Star kit) ~ For Approval
My little Badgy c: Comments? 07:53, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

This should be named File:Badgerfang.star.png, as his warrior name was used in The Ultimate Guide.

Some of the eye color on the right side is leaking out. This is amazing! <span style="">17:11 Tue Nov 5

Reups thanks! c: 20:23, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Define the tail shading just a little bit? 21:23, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Reups this is as defined as I can get it. 22:09, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

White looks a bit on the gray side on the chest and paws 04:59, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Reups how's this? 15:15, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

All around, it is off-white, which is good, but on the headstripe, it's brighter than the rest of the white. I may be nitpicking slightly, but maybe if you dimmed down the brightness on the stripe and made is match with the rest of the white? xD If you think it's fine, that's fine. 00:45, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

It seems fine to me. I think it's just where her shading is placed, honestly.

Any chance of possibly creating a more defined lightsource? The face seems to look like the shading is coming from this --> side, while the back and tail say behind them and to the left, while the shoulder is sort of in front of the cat and coming from the left, as well. If you want to go with the majority's source, (back and tail's), then you'd just have to have most of the chest and shoulder and face in shadow. I can explain the other ones, if you're interested, in chat so it doesn't take up too much room here. 01:05, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

I think the white should take up a little less room on the face...on the apprentice blank, it seems like the white is a little smaller.

Could someone make me a shading placement? It'll make it so much easier. 08:00, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reups nvm. I've looked at Eaglekit's KiS, and this should hopefully look alright. If changes aren't showing, lookey here. 16:37, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on the chin? Eagle has that, and you looked at his image, right? 14:20, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Could you smudge the edges of the white strip on his head? Although it's primarily just blurred on his other images, I can see some smudges. Looks great! c:  16:28, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Reups yes, Beebs, and thank you, Misty! Look changes 20:39, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Smudge the stripe on the tail a bit more to match the back 07:30, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Reups 12:32, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Alder (Kit) ~ For Evaluation
Isn't she the cutest little thing? I know I'm not actually part of the project, so if there's anything wrong with how I reserved her (I put my name in the table and followed its format) please notify me and I will withdraw her. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 23:11, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Brighten the white a bit? Very nice! <span style="">3:09 Wed Nov 6 2013

Smooth out the shading, it looks a bit blotchy 04:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded That's as bright as the white can get, and Scarletwind, are you talking about the shading on her left front paw? There's a patch of gray there that makes it look blotchy, I can remove it if you want, though. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 13:31, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

There is a square-patch of somesort that needs to be blurred/smudged. Here: Yes, I circled it due to the fact that I can't explain for crap. Not because I'm getting up in your face. ;) It looks amazing, Ember. Keep it up! 03:55, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

That area looks fine to me, Dark???? This is actually really cute omg. Maybe define the shading in general?

No, I see what dark is getting at. You can't see it in the zoom version but its like a squareish shape cut out? I'm horrible at explaining but yeah can you smudge there? <span style="">10:03 Thu Nov 7

I still can't see what you're looking at. Maybe it's because of the eyelashes? It seems to disguise the area around it, and I still say it's fine.

Here, I zoomed out, and screwed the eyelash for a better view: Can you see the square now, Snowy? o.o 12:40, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

ReuploadedHere if changes aren't showing. That was part of her white, but it did look weird so I extended the gray. I think the shading is fine, but if more people think I should define it then I will. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 13:32, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Blue the shading on the legs, and define the neck shading - if you're using this light source. 14:22, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hereif changes aren't showing Emberpoppy7 (talk) 15:46, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on our left side of the image. It's darker than the rest of her body. -- 17:45, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Darkness doesn't need to be the same throughout the entire image. ^^

Leaf (Ro) ~ For Approval
Meh, I fail. Anyways, I put "For Evaluation" because this is my first charart! But as I've seen in other discussions, it can be removed when the user knows what he/she knows what they're doing. So, comments? -- 23:51, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Can you darken the highlights a smidge? The seem shiny. Nice job! <span style="">1:56 Wed Nov 6

He needs to be black and white, if I'm not mistaken. 01:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink and give him a gray nose 04:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I ended up having to redo the whole image...if there is a way to make a gray and white cat black and white without redoing the image, please tell me. This took up so much of my time. *.* -- 20:28, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

The shading on the white is very gray. Also, define the unshaded parts more. Also, can you make the pattern a bit more realistic, like this maybe? I like those eyes. ;) <span style="">23:00 Wed Nov 6

Re-uploaded 'Kay, for some reason, the wiki won't let me upload this image, so I brought a link with me. Thanks Hawk for the picture, it helped. Changes are.

To be perfectly honest, the pattern was more realistic before... I think that pattern was just fine.

I think this one is more realistic, just overblurred. Maybe try smudging it instead of blurring it so much? <span style="">0:35 Thu Nov 7

Hmmm..Maybe try to aim for it to look like this? I did a quick version of what I'd do..maybe you can get some tips and pointers from this. ;) 04:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Dark, I do apologize, but that's not very natural either, and I'm going to agree with Paleh, that the pattern before was more realistic. Perhaps try to go back to that one if possible? I liked it. *.*

That's fine, Cloudy. It was only a 30 second job..xD 21:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I kind of liked the pattern before. I switched back. ouo -- 22:08, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Okay, I kind of blurred the ear pink because I thought it looked...odd. -- 22:09, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

The earpink is leaking out of the ear. Also, can you sharpen the black patches, as they seem overblurred? <span style="">1:00 Fri Nov 8

Re-uploaded I switched back to the originals, so there aren't any black patches anymore. Blurred ear pink, though. -- 01:45, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

It looks over-smudged. Sharpen the black patches, they're losing their shape definition 05:43, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

'Kay, I'm sorry to say this, but I'm going on a trip to China to see my relatives for two weeks, which means I don't get to finish this image in time. I just found out about the Internet connection there and let me say...it's not to hot. So, can someone please take over. I was so mad, but I guess fairest is fairest...-- 21:51, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

I'll take over. 01:36, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Uploaded. Bahh, I guess it's okay. ._. I thought about texturing the white for some time while making, but then decided it wouldn't look good..soo, Comment away my friends! And may they be good. c: 02:48, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't align your images. Also the pattern isn't very realistic, maybe something like this, or even this would work. Also define the shading, earpink and nosepink, I'm having a bit of trouble seeing them. -- <span style="">02:54 Sat Nov 9

Also, maybe smudging instead of blurring would work. <span style="">3:35 Sat Nov 9

Re-uploaded. This came out beautifully..I followed first suggestion-cat, Wildd. And sorry about the aligning image thing, didn't know. See changes |here if the wiki is acting up again. 13:26, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading. <span style="">20:21 Sat Nov 9

I don't really know how to put this in better words, but something about the black patches seems to be throwing me off. Maybe define them, or...I don't really know. Just saying. -- 17:32, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Misty (Ro) - For Approval
Alright, before anyone starts complaining, there is indeed white markings on her chest, face, and paws. They're just small. Trying a new technique of gray and white kittehs today, kids. c: Comments? 04:57, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe add a bit more white than that? I can see what's there, but it's just so little...

Re-uploaded 01:41, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Holy cow, this is so freaking amazing. :O I'm jealous...teach me how you do it!! ;) My only critique, is that you define the shading more on the tail. Great job. c:  04:02, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 04:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

CBA? I like this. .o.

Sorry to interrupt, but the back legs are awfully flat. Define the shading on them?

Re-uploaded 17:10, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Waste off the stretched out back leg. <span style="">17:31 Fri Nov 8

Re-uploaded 17:40, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail just a bit more? I can't see it well ouo 21:19, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 00:38, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

I still see the waste off the back leg closest to us..not sure if it's my computer, but double check. 02:49, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 04:42, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the unshaded parts on the back legs? There may be a smidge of waste next o the (back) one that's closest to us, too. 04:52, November 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's the wrong version showing. On the right one, the shading's fine 06:11, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

The white's looking gray, unless that's the old version I'm seeing? blasted changes .-.

Re-uploaded here 06:33, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Acorn Fur (Ki) ~ For Approval
Wow it's been a while since I've done this. <span style="">21:33, 11/6/2013

Define the shading just the tiniest bit? Very purdy, Shimmer c: 02:03, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded This look good? Thanks~ c: <span style="">02:09, 11/7/2013

She looks red on my screen. 02:55, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

^Same..make her more "acorn-colored." xD Not bad, Shim. Looks great. c: 03:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. She's chestnut coloured, right? You get horses of such colour. Maybe you could colour pick off a chestnut horse? Here's an example you could use, but there are lots of others. Just a suggestion. 15:52, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">00:07, 11/8/2013

Woah, this is super pretty, Shim. o.o Maybe smudge the fur into the earpink a little? You don't have to, but I think it looks nice. 01:10, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks Leggy~ <span style="">02:10, 11/8/2013

There's some waste on the <<< side of her head, and above it, too. Remove it? 21:19, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the right (ours) paw shading just a tad  16:35, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">17:18, 11/10/2013

Sedgestar (Star) ~ CBA
Well I know I accidentally took the female blank but I'll fix it. So other than that, comments?

Reuploaded; Fixed.

The eyes kinda abruptly switch to a darker coloring... maybe lightly blur or smudge it so they don't just shift all of the sudden? Other than that, I see literally nothing wrong; I like this. *.*

Maybe lighten the shading by a touch? <span style="">14:42 Thu Nov 7 2013

I think the shading's fine, but the eyes could be blurred a bit to make the transitioning from light to dark smoother. 21:18, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think the eyes are better now. Changes might not be showing yet. And thanks Cloudy. <3

CBA? 07:33, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Leafstar (Q) - For Approval
And so it starts. Here we go. All colors are the same as her kittypet, so I'm not changing them. If changes aren't showing Comments?

Define your shading a bit? She's cute! 23:59, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Lilyfur (Q) - CBA
I'm certain somebody is going to ask, so before you do, I'm not lightening her. Keep in mind she's a feral cat and wouldn't be pure clean white, and it's clear that the image is white. Other than that, comments? If changes aren't showing

Reuploaded I messed with the shading cause it was looking a bit flat to me.

CBA? 07:33, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Brightheart (Q) - For Approval
Lookie lookie! It's my Brighty! I <3 my Brighty :3 'cept those scars were such a pain in the tail.... Anyway, all the colors came her her old queen/alt. app. Comments? look here for changes 05:39, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

So pretty ;; Can you define the unshaded part on her stomach? 00:15, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Could you possibly narrow out her furless face a bit more? Fur can give them a more rounded face, but under that they're typically more triangular. seriously though I love this image 00:18, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded The sort of rounded side of the face with the scars was taken from the shorthaired queen blank. 00:37, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Leggy's right. I know I told you to just use the shorthaired blank, but I didn't really take fur into account. Her face would be a lot more triangular and skinny without fur.

Haha Derp. I forgot to link. I did make her face more triangular in the new version here 03:50, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the overall shading; she appears to be the tiniest bit flat. That face tho ;-;

Re-uploaded here 'dat face dou 06:32, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Could you darken the shading a tad? Other than that, this is perfect<3

Re-uploaded 21:38, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on the belly and legs as it's looking gray. 17:43, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Mapleshade (Q) - For Approval
Comments? Changes are here, if they aren't showing - <span style="">05:45 Fri Nov 8

Wow... I wouldn't want to meet her in a dark alley xP. Blur the white on her foreleg a bit 21:38, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine. Wildd I love the way you shade. <span style="">1:11 Sat Nov 9

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink a bit more 07:34, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I love this (not only because I like Mapleshade)! Maybe lighten the back-of-the-tail-shading because it's looking gray. -- 17:25, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Dewy Leaf (Q) ~ For Approval
ha aaha aAHAAHAHA ahaaAHa 07:27, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Woo~ Sexy! Darken the shading a bit 21:38, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thank 06:30, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

If you want can you maybe make the patches less sharp? Either blur them slightly or smudge them more (again, if you'd like). *steals*

I think she's fine as she is, actually. ^^

Thicken the shading a touch more 07:34, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Snowfur (Q) - For Approval
Thar she blows! I wanted to do a white cat because I haven't done one since.. Whiteberry. <span style="">16:04 Fri Nov 8

Define the shading. Pretty!

Define the eye depth a bit, too? 21:16, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reups! Thanks! <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">11:31 Sun Nov 10

Gorsetail (P3) (Q) - For Approval
Omg hardest cat ever <span style="">17:38 Fri Nov 8

I apologize Amber, but I think that you are only allowed to work on one at a time. 18:14, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

No, as explained on the talk page, if she doesn't have an original image, she's allowed two queens if she wants.

Darken and add more stripes and mottles. Also, perhaps add more depth to her eyes? The stripes also appear sharper on the warrior, too. o3o 21:16, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading on the head? The white part looks gray. 23:33, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

The stripes are going straight down the body, try curving them to go with the shape to give it a more 3-D effect. 19:34, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Withdrawing, as I can't get the pattern right. I also want to work on something else. <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">11:26 Sun Nov 10

Bluestar (Q) ~ For Approval
Here's BLUESTAR! I love this cat soo much. Comments for improvement? 19:27, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit, and please don't align your images when you post them. ^^

Reuploaded. Not sure what you ment about the aligning images thing. Changes here. 21:19, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

See, when you post images, the thing should read  , but instead, sometimes it reads   . That aligns the image to the left (or right/center depending on what it says to the left of the pipe), and it should just be placed normally on the page. What it does is forces the image to stay in one spot, and also messes up the sections below it, should it be small enough. Since the other images aren't aligned, it forces the other images (and sections) to appear skewed, so to say, and also causes the images to not be sectioned properly. All in all, it's a pretty easy thing to fix; just go into source mode and make sure the coding says exactly what I said. ^^

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink 07:35, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Brightflower (Alt Q) ~ CBA
Snowman loves her black and white kitties. Please keep in mind that she is dark for a reason, and seeing every piece of lineart isn't mandatory. =P Changes can be seen here.

Smudge the white just a little bit? This is lovely! 21:15, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and to add to my previous comment: She needs the snub nose and flat face as well ouo 21:29, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Define the belly shading? snuuuuuuby 21:54, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I also darkened it I think because it would be darker since it's under the cat???

Can you blur the shading (I think there's some) on her ears? They're beginning to look gray haha  snubby nose kitty 23:30, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

CBA? 07:36, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt Q 2) ~ For Approval
Comments? Look here for changes. 20:10, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

The stripe could be a bit thinner toward the tip. Very nice! 21:14, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reups thank yoouuu c: see here for changes. 22:36, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Define your light source 06:58, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Reups  12:23, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the leg that's on the ground as I can barely see the main pelt color on it. 17:41, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Shading darkness is artist's choice, and I think it's fine.

Sunspots (Q) ~ For Approval
Comments? If the changes aren't showing, check here.  21:05, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Define the markings; they get kinda smudgy on the chest 21:37, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Are you talking about her stripes, or her splashes (patches)? If it's the patch then I can fix it easily, since I wasn't very pleased with how it came out. 21:38, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

re-up figured it out, see here for changes. 22:07, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

It still looks kinda smudgy and blur the shading more 06:58, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I think both are fine, unless someone disagrees - the shading is smudged, and smudging it anymore will make it a bit flat. 15:08, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

re-up eh, forget what I said 15:17, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe define the shading on the back leg that's furthest from us (the one that's off  on the ground). I can't really see the shading. 17:36, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine, since I like it that way, unless someone disagree o3o 17:38, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Birch (Ki) ~ For Approval
yaaay, gingers! Comments? 22:19, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail 00:44, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

re-up 00:48, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Brightsky (Q) ~ For Approval
boop lookie here 23:28, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Add white to the belly. This is beautiful! <span style="">21:07 Sat Nov 9

Reuploaded- Thank you c: I also had to lighten the shading more or else the white looked too gray. 05:00, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Darken the shading 06:59, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded-   16:02, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Turtle Tail (Q) ~ For Approval
I tried. Comments? <span style="">0:04 Sat Nov 9

The patches are smudged with a smaller tool than it appears like you did here...try using a 1 px to get the finer, smaller strokes. 00:07, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

you suck I wanted this one so badly ihu 69ever The white's looking a tad gray. She matches wonderfully tho. more gross sobbing I really wanted her entire set but she was fair game and i'm joking around please do not take me seriously.

Re-uploaded. Oh gosh I'm sorry I didn't know you wanted this one... DX But don't worry I'm not taking you seriously. The next one you want you'll get I promise... <span style="">0:29 Sat Nov 9

Re-uploaded. White was still gray. <span style="">0:40 Sat Nov 9

Aww, pretty. <3 Although can you define the shading on the hind and fore legs?

Re-uploaded. Thank you, Stoney. <span style="">17:27 Sat Nov 9

Re-uplaoded. Waste. Trust me, the image is transparent, but wikia is being a butt so it won't show. <span style="">16:14 Sun Nov 10

Hollyflower (Q) ~ For Approval
so um hi guys  <span style="">04:38 Sat Nov 9

Lovely job Berry so pretty ;; I can't really tell, but on the back leg (the one that 'connects' to the front) seems to have a light gray strip on it. Could you smudge it a bit for it blend in? ^^  16:17, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Yeah the back feet were supposed to be white and I forgot xo  <span style="">03:42 Sun Nov 10

Sorreltail (Q) ~ For Approval
why did this sweet little bug have to diee ;0; poop 04:48, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit and perhaps lighten it a tad? She looks a bit grey. Beautiful! ^_^ <span style="">05:00 Sat Nov 9

Define the mottles on the ginger patches. Amazing! <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">13:43 Sat Nov 9

The mottles on the ginger are fine. Nice job, Misty! <span style="">14:17 Sat Nov 9

Reuploaded- Thank you for the wonderful comments ;w;   17:25, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Blurred two spots so they blended in more   15:58, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Fernshade (Q) ~ For Approval
hi  <span style="">06:42 Sat Nov 9

All I can say, is to define the shading on the belly. This is amazing Berry! <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">13:40 Sat Nov 9

I personally think the shading on the belly is fine. The light is coming from the left or top left corner, no? <span style="">17:11 Sat Nov 9

Yeah the light is coming from the top left corner and I'd rather leave it alone because it was an ass to do. <span style="">03:43 Sun Nov 10

This is awesome, Berry! Could you add more depth to the eyes, though? -- 17:22, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Daisy (Q. Alt 2) ~ For Approval
Here she is. Comments?

Lighten her shading a bit, as the white looks gray. Loving her eyes and patches Stoner (: <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">13:32 Sat Nov 9

The shading darkness is just fine. I can clearly tell it's white. Amazing work, Stoneh! <span style="">14:18 Sat Nov 9

Don't mean to sound rude or anything, but I think the shading does need to be lightened, as it looks almost pale gray. Awesome job on her. -- 17:39, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, also lighten the tail patches as they're darker than the other ones. -- 17:40, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Shading darkness is artist's choice, Bright. But the white on everywhere but the tail is sorta gray.

Nightcloud (Queen) - For Approval
link Comments? -Feather 11:29, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">13:28 Sat Nov 9

Re-uploaded. link -Feather 13:43, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on the furthest hind leg. 13:47, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. link -Feather 14:28, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Nicely done~ You're someone else who can handle a really dark base for a black cat. 8D

Re-uploaded. link And thank you c: -Feather 18:57, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Frostfur (Q) ~ For approval
link Okay, this is like, my first charart on this website, so if I have done anything wrong, I apologize. Anyway, comments? 11:42, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Looks lovely, Tiny c: Maybe thin out the shading on the back, and blur the texture a bit more on the tail, as it looks a bit pencil-y. -Feather 12:04, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on this leg. White cats' are hard for your first charart, and you've done very well :) <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">13:37 Sat Nov 9

If I'm not mistaken, Frostfur has no texture. Remove it? o3o 13:39, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Just to add on to what Amber said, could you define the shading in general too? Well done for a first charart! <3

Redone. I used the shading placement thing mentioned below. Comments? -- 19:23, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Could you define the unshaded parts on the legs? 15:48, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Clovertail (Q) ~ For Approval
Wow. Her pattern wasn't so bad, and I got her pretty dead on. I didn't really like her, since she was pretty much only with the Clan for protection, and didn't get off her butt to train. But yeah. xD Comment away! 14:14, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Where's the light source? The body, I can tell for the most part, but the face says otherwise. Also, define and blur your shading, and whiten the belly and chest white; they appear gray. Also, smudge the earpink, and define the eyedepth ouo 14:16, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

For shading placement to clear up source issues, I recommend this as a guide, not so far off of your current shading placement. Also, make the white go all the way up the front legs, as the hind legs are fine. Coming along well, Frosty! <span style="">16:10 Sat Nov 9

Daisytail (Q) - For Approval
I think the definition of insanity is when new blanks come out and all these simpler images come out and I go and pick one of the hardest ones <span style="">21:10 Sat Nov 9

Could you make the middle stripe (the one on her stomach) bigger to match her other images? Nice job c:  22:16, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Wha? There's a belly stripe? lol can someone highlight with lower opacity where that's supposed to be? ;D <span style="">01:17 Sun Nov 10

btw thanks lol c: <span style="">01:19 Sun Nov 10

No, she means like the patch that's a line that goes right down the middle of the stomach, and by that I mean this part. This is amazing, Kelps! ~♥ <span style="">1:30 Sun Nov 10

Possibly darken/define the belly shading? I can't really see it, though it may just be me. -- 17:23, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Night (Lo) ~ For Approval
meow 00:10, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

The white seems the tiniest bit of gray. But if you don't want to, feel free to keep it as is. <span style="">1:31 Sun Nov 10

I've tried to make it less grey, but every time I do I end up barely being able to see it. I can try if you guys really want me to though. 02:41, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

You can try running the dodge tool over it once or twice to lighten it up a bit, to recommend something. <span style="">4:45 Sun Nov 10

Fallowfern (Q) ~ For Approval
Got all the colors from her previous queen image. Here's the link. Comments? 02:39, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Could you define the light source? Sorry if I'm missing something but it looks like it's coming from the direct top, but I'm pretty sure the tail would be lit in that case. lol I'm not even in this project  04:55, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Petal's and Fox's Mother (Q) - For Approval
Wow I'm posting an image for approval haven't done that in awhile. <span style="">7:27 Sun Nov 10 2013

Changes aren't showing... <span style="">15:54 Sun Nov 10

Could you give a link to ezimba or somewhere? As Hawk said, I can't see any changes. -Feather 16:34, November 10, 2013 (UTC)