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Socks (KP)-For Approval
Here's Ruby's littermate, Socks! He needs some work...comments? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  13:56, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, do we even need him as a kittypet? We have him as a kit with a collar, but we never saw him as a kittypet older than six moons. Just asking so if I'm wrong please don't get mad. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:06, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

When I had my Ruby (KP) up for approval, this was brought up, and other people said that yes, we would need kittypet images for them. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  14:08, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for not getting made at me :) On the image, I can't see anything wrong. P.S who here loves the snow day? M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:19, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

(For the record, I'm loving this snow day! We get off tomorrow and Friday too! And Monday! A six-day weekend!) Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:29, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and the tag is the same color as his collar. Make it yellow, like on his kit image-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:21, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened shading, yellowified tag (if that's a word...) Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:34, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's great, Moss. :) Now, darken the shading more then blur it. Ice Happy Valentines!  01:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I might have made it worse on the leg...whenever I blur it, it gets bigger and darker...suggestions? P.S. I won't be here during this weekend, maybe on Sunday night, when I'm getting back from my reterat :) So I'm pretty much signing off here on this image. Vancou verpath  §USA!§ 23:21, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Are there any further comments? Vancou verpath  17:38, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Should the hind leg that's half hidden from us be white? I thought that was the leg, not the paw Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 00:28, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that was the paw, that's what it looks like to me at least. What does everyone else think? I think I'm going to try and redo the shading. Vancou verpath  13:38, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-sorta I made another versoin. Original is on the left. Which one does everone like better? Vancou verpath  14:41, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

I like the one on the right. I'm not sure but I agree with Night based on the side we can see. I think that that would be the back part of his leg and not the paw. Haikage Ash's Talk 18:07, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry, I'm not too good at phrasing things like that :) And yes, I like the one on the right. Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 18:22, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Mental note: it's the leg not the paw. I think this is the right version...and that's okay, Nightfall :) -- Vancou verpath  01:15, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I can't tell the difference between the tag and the collar. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:26, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Just lighten the gold for the tag and it should be perfect.--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  23:20, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's that? Sorry, I haven't been on as much as I'd like to be. Vancou verpath  23:23, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit more triangular--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  23:26, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Vancou verpath  23:53, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Patchpelt (W)- for Approval
Take him down if he's over the limit, but I don't think he is. I think he's one of my better ones.Echoheart 11:45, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

The patches on his back and chest don't look much like the ones on his elder image...well they do, except on here they look very much connected, whereas his elder picture's ones are a little less touching...does that make any sense? Also, you might want to add a patch on his front leg...one the elder image you wouldn't see it if it was there. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:38, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hello Echoheart! This is really good! There is a little grey smudge thingy on the patch that covers his face. It might just be me but if you can see it then I knoww I'm not going blind like Jayfeather! XD! Fawnstorm 16:48, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs blending and I can't see much shading. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:06, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is there anything else? Echoheart 20:40, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink lighter like his elder image-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:30, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

...Don't know if you saw my comment above there ;) Heartpath  Love, Jaggedclaw!  01:50, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

About your comment Mosspelt, which front leg? And about the image, it's reuploaded. Echoheart 11:52, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd say the front leg closest to us. The patches all need blurring a little more and the shading isn't visible on the white areas. ✐S  aN  dY  11:40, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Echoheart 19:06, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the patches (do not smudge them out just smudge the patches) then blur them more. Icestorm 17:12, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. How about this? Echoheart 11:39, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Anybody? Echoheart 23:08, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, darken the shading on the white fur just a tad bit more, I can tell it's there butI think it should be a bit darker. -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 00:18, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Now what? Echoheart 11:19, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Can you make the ear pink smaller? It looks a bit big. XD! Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 10:39, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I made the ear pink smaller. Echoheart 16:36, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

This may just be me, but I still can't see any shading... ✐S aN  dY  09:40, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried to make the shading darker. Anything else? Echoheart 12:04, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Can you make the ear pink a bit brighter? If you do that, I don't see much else that needs doing! Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Anything else (again? XD) Echoheart 14:46, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Anything? Sorry, but I'm a really impaitent person. Echoheart 11:14, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks gray, make more pink like his elder image. Darken the shading on the white parts, and blur the patches a lot more Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 19:48, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Also, on the white, it is kinda hard to see the shading. A hint for shading on the white: eithe make it a really pale gray, or take the burn tool, set it on highlights instead of midtones, and make the exposure about 5. The image is coming along though! Vancou verpath  01:20, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Try adding a few spots in the white part, and the earpink looks grayish. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 20:29, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Clovertail (R) - for approval


Wow, its been 2 months I think since I've done an image, so the image is probably not that good. ChelseaFC 20:03, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This isnt bad. I would make the white on her front legs go up higher and darken the earpink. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 21:17, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the background pink?-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 19:12, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Pink? I don't know, its white on my computer/gimp. ChelseaFC 21:14, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

It's a very light pink. I can make it transparent if you want. Dark hallows 23:23, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: And yes, could you do that for me Shady? ChelseaFC 20:49, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

The white on the front legs still needs to be a little higher and the white underbelly should go up a little faurther. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:30, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Since Shady's not on I could make the background transparent if you want. Icestorm 16:41, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I made the white go higher on her front legs, but I didn't on her belly because if Idid, wouldn't it go on her side? ChelseaFC 23:03, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

It should go higher on her chest, like her queen image - -- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 00:19, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Hows this? ♣Gaelic Irish♣

I like it. just blur the shading on her back some more. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:51, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

And she looks a tad gingerish compared to her queen image. Maybe desaturate her a bit? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 01:40, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

How would I do that? ♣Gaelic Irish♣  05:06, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

If you use pixlr, use the sponge tool set to desaturate. Haikage Ash's Talk 05:09, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

She looks a bit chestnut in this image but in her queen image, she looks browner (^ see above) ^^ Fawny 16:59, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- How's this? ♣Gaelic Irish♣  22:58, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink is a bit bright and it looks like the shading comes off her chest a tiny bit. other than that I really like it. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:00, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Uggh, I've been grounded again!. Now I can't go on here for like 2 weeks. If I manage to get time to do this, it won't be until later this week. Maybe, just maybe, someone would like to finish this for me, if I don't post it by this Friday? ♣Gaelic Irish♣  00:32, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think Clovertail was a loner, not a rogue. I may be wrong, though.Crystalpaw *glimmer* 20:27, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

No, on her article, it says she was previously a rogue. Rain whisker  22:26, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Quince (KP)- For Approval
I hope I'm not going over the image limit cuz if I am I'll take it down and put it up later. Well, here she is. How is she? -- Luckflight Kiss Me I'm Irish 23:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is over the limit. There are two discussions.--  Night shine   ♥  23:26, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

There are three discussions up so this in within the limit. Blur the shading and highlights more. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:38, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink darker. And add shading to the ear and paw that's not facing us. Icestorm 23:43, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Whoops I didn't see that. Blur the highlights and shading.--  Night shine   ♥  23:54, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: How's this? -- Luckflight Kiss Me I'm Irish 00:08, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks magenta. Also, Blur the highlights and shading more. But this is good for your first one! Maplefern Carrying the torch... 20:52, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I redid the shading and highlights. Earpink too. This good? -- Luckflight Kiss Me I'm Irish 22:19, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

She should have a collar LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 00:21, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights more. Icestorm 17:07, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Her right arm seems too dark. Lighten it a bit--  Night shine   ♥  23:05, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I fixed the shading, highlights and arm. I'm having trouble with the collar. Any tips on how to make it on pixlr? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 22:33, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I suggust making the collar in paint then coloring it in pixlr. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:44, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think it'd be easier to do it all in pixlr, but of course it's your choice. If you do it in pixlr just take the pencil tool on 1 or 2 pixel size, and just... draw the collar. X3 ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 04:35, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a tad.  Saint Ice   ♣  02:10, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I just started over and made it a whole lot better. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:11, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: How's the collar look? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:20, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

It looks a bit thin and the tag needs to be smaller. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:22, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: thickened the collar.

The shading needs more blurring--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  00:40, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Try and copy the collar on the kittypet image. User:QuailflightTheCat ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ We are the World...05:43, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: blurred shading and fixed collar. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 15:13, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. Sorry but it dosen't look that.........natural. If you see what I mean? Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 13:53, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: better? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 16:24, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Listen, you're having some though time on the collar. Plus Quince was never a queen. i'd just do the kittypet version. ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ We are the World...05:42, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, she was a queen. In "The Rise of Scourge" she had given birth to, Ruby, Socks, and Tiny, who later became Scourge. So yes, Quince was a queen. But, collars are hard to draw, especially on queen blanks. I agree with Quail, try doing her kittypet image if you like Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 19:46, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

K I'll try...-- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:17, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded:How'd this turn out? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:58, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, this is the first time I've critiqued on a Kittypet Blank, but I'm pretty sure the ear pink should be slightly darker (As Quince is a gray cat)... Otherwise, I think this is great! =D

<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 22:03, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: darkened ear pink. How's this? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 22:08, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I cant really see the earpink now. Choose a reddish color. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:42, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: fixed eapink. Better? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 23:04, March 2, 2010 (UTC)'''

Blur the shading on the tail and back. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:29, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: How does this look? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 02:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well...how's this look? HELLO? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:00, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Calm down, people will comment when they can and its only been a day. Add more shading to the haunch and blur the shading and highlights. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:59, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (W)-For Approval
Here she is! I know she dosen't look much like her Medicine Cat image but I'll happily improve it! Her eyes are copied directly off her medicince cat image and her scars are in the same places (thanks for your advice on that topic guys!). The Featherstar thing is a disscusion thingy so this is the 35th image. Comments? <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 14:19, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I actually think that this is the 36th image. If it's not you should lighten her pelt a little. Haikage Ash's Talk 14:37, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I got the colour from her Medicine Cat image. And Timberfur has got CBA so shall I keep it on or take it of? <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 14:59, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well I would say take it off because as far as I can tell Bramble doesn't want more than 35 images on the page( the message at the top of the page). I'm not really sure though. Haikage Ash's Talk 15:03, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ruby's got CBA as well, so I'd think it could stay. Image-wise, the eye is freaking me out, and you need to darken the ear pink/scars and blend the highlights more. ♪  B  a  t   ♫  15:13, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

There are a good amout of images that would be taken off later today, i'm just going by the notice. It's not my call so image-wise there is a white pixel on her chest. Haikage Ash's Talk 15:16, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Ashshadow, Fawny's right. The Featherstar section is a discussion, so this should be kept. Also, Swiftpelt withdrew Tallpoppy, so this technically is the 34th image. Anyway, I think her pelt could be lighter, as she is dark gray. You can take the pelt colors from the medicine cat version. Rain whisker  16:19, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I took the pelt colour from her Medicine Cat image though and her eyes to. <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 16:25, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred her ear and scars but didn't change the eyes. It was like that on the med cat image. I took the pelt colour from that as well. I know she's a dark grey cat (fave) but I did get it from on there. <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 16:31, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

To Rainwhisker: Ruby was archived and approved after I made that comment. The earpink is rectangular make it a bit more triangular. Haikage Ash's Talk 17:56, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Fawny! ^^ To get the darker grey colour, maybe add some more highlights on the body, tail and face, like on the med cat image? And then smudge the body ones together if need be. The tail highlights look great on black cats if they're used like on the med cat image. I love the scars! ^^ Brightfrost  of SunClan...  19:12, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

She still looks very black to me, lighten the pelt more Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 22:17, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to withdraw her guys. Sorry. Misty says that Yellowfang was never a warrior in the books so she said I should. I will carry on if anyone disagrees but I don't think you will. Sorry again. <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 19:53, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well she might not have been seen as a warrior but it was mentioned in BP that she was a warrior before becoming a medicine cat. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:06, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and Flamewolf is doing Hawkheart's warrior image, but he was never shown as a warrior, just mentioned to be one. Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 00:58, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

So what should I do? <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 10:06, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say she was never a warrior and I didn't say she should be taken down. I just wanted to know when she was mentioned as a warrior (Thanks Ash!) She's really good, but the eyes look strange. I know you copied them from the med cat image, but I think you should use Icethroat's tutorial for eyes. :) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">♫ Misty ♫ 12:55, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind. I'll change the eyes! <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 12:59, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re-did the entire thing. She's now a dark grey, got the right eyes, her Ear Pink is less rectanglar. Anything else I missed? <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 16:28, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

You missed a white pixel near her neck :) Otherwise I see nothing wrong :) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">♫ Misty ♫ 16:40, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

I have redone it but it won't let me reupload her without keeping the white pixel which I changed. <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 17:17, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded did it. Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 18:02, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Also please take note to the message on my user page. Thanx <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 18:41, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Her scars need to be a darker pink to match her medicine cat image. Also, her pelt should be more ragged, but this is very good. :) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">♫ Misty ♫ 12:14, February 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * The ear pink is too pale for a dark grey cat. Either make it a darker redish colour or make it more of a greyish-pink colour. Reddish is probably easier. ✐S  aN  dY  15:38, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit more :D <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">♫ Misty ♫ 17:45, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

How do I do that? I'll darken the ear pink, I see what you mean, Sandy, thanks? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 18:09, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make her eye color more orange-like. Do you think you could make her fur textured like her meddie cat image?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  20:00, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I had a go at making her look more textured. Dosen't look that good though. -sigh- I will withdraw her if you think I should <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 16:29, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Don't be so hard on yourself. I like the way you textured her fur. As for the Image try to blur the earpink some more. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:36, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'll give it a go. I think her med cat image was done on GIMP and I use Pixlr. Thats why it looks weird and dementated. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 10:04, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black">Fawny 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 12:41, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the smudges and the ear pink. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:31, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

All I can say is maybe make the ear pink that weird grey-pink from the med cat image and blur a bit? Apart from that, she looks great! The raggedy-grey on her pelt looks great :D Brightfrost  of SunClan...  19:08, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkheart (W)-For Approval


Well, here's my first Charart.I had some trouble with the ear pink and highlighting but other than that I think it looks pretty good.Well you can go ahead and tell me how horrible it looks but,since this is my first charart I think it looks pretty good.I used Nightshine's tutorials and Bluestar's tutorials to learn how to do everything so I'd like to thank them. Flamewolf15 00:11, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Err, where is it? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 00:13, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Did you upload the file and need help linking it, or have you not uploaded it yet? -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 00:20, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I inserted the image for you--  Night shine   ♣  00:24, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is good for your first image but the lineart is thin in some places and you need to blur the shading. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:38, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well,I edited it and reuploaded it, but I can't figure out how to insert it into my post. Flamewolf15 01:01, February 22, 2010 (UTC)Well when you edit the section there is an option at the top that allows you to add images to the page. also reupload with the same image name. It saves space on the wiki. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:04, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I inserted it again--  Night shine   ♣  01:05, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to Nightshine for inserting the image.I thickened the line art in some places and tried to blur the shadowing some more.It'd help if you told specific areas that need blurring. Flamewolf15 01:09, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thats because it all needed blurring. The lineart is still thin mostly on the chest, I could fix it if you'd like. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:14, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I thickened the line art on the chest and between the hanch and the front leg I also blurred everything again and it seems that no matter how many times I try to upload an image it never shows up.  Flamewolf  03:32, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I inserted the file for you. Next time dont take it off the page, just click on it and then upload a new version. Haikage Ash's Talk 11:40, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay,well is there any other lineart that needs to be thicker?Is there anymore blurring I need to do?And is there anything else that needs improvement or does he look fine the way he is?  Flamewolf  21:54, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart needs to look like this:. The shading on the back is still too thick and I don't see much shading anywhere else. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:11, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded:Is this any better?The shading on the back is darking than the rest because he's facing toward the light source and because that's the way it looked after I blurred it in the editor.  Flamewolf  03:44, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

He looks very pink. He needs to be more brown like his Medicine cat image -  Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 08:45, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, a lot. Dark hallows 15:30, February 23, 2010 (UTC) ^

So, blur the shading and thinin it, (smooth it too) and make it more brown like | (I fail at making arrows.  Saint Ice   ♣  02:08, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

My oppinion is that the brown color you picked out looks a little pink or a little purple and the shading along its back needs to be blurred. Moonpelt1786 04:57, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

He needs to be blurred and his pelt is marroon. :) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">♫ Misty ♫ 12:10, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on his back needs to be blurred some more, and Misty's right, his pelt is maroon. Make it a little browner. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 23:50, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is too dark and thick, and needs blurring. His pelt is maroon, he needs to be mottled, and his eyes are yellow, and they are supposed to be amber. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:33, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 04:17, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

I am currently working on him and apologize for the amount of time it is taking.I have a few more things to work on and I will reupload him as soon as he is

finished.  Flamewolf  04:11, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot more. He looks like his back is just a darker colour. And he's STILL MAROON! Fix that, please!Crystalpaw *glimmer* 20:25, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Like I said,I am currently working on him and I am trying to fix everything that needs to be fixed.  Flamewolf  23:18, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Petal (KP) - For Approval
I need to know how to shade this. Other than that, comments? Critique? Critiquents? My fourth image, and first kittypet. Җ Ѭ ѳ ѥ  ѯ 10:35, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Just like you said the shading otherwise its pretty good! Moonpelt1786 14:22, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by saying you need to know how to shade it, but I'll explain two different ways.


 * Using the burn tool, set the range on highlights, and it will show up on white.


 * Run the tool along the back, the legs, the edges of the head, and the bottom of the tail.

Does that help? Bramble 17:41, February 22, 2010 (UTC)

Is that the shading? It looks like she has stripes. The shading needs to touch the lineart, and to be blurred more Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 08:54, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yes if your shading this dark most of the time you need to blur it with the blur tool. Moonpelt1786 04:52, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

ReuploadedҖ Ѭ ѳ ѥ  ѯ 10:06, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is still really really dark, try lightening it and blurring. Look at some other kittypets to see how they're shaded as this style isn't very connected. Haikage Ash's Talk 11:35, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, blur the shading and make it more smooth and connected as the others said. For an example of what a light colored kittypet's shading should look like, try Snowdrop. <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 20:34, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Җ Ѭ ѳ ѥ  ѯ 03:56, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

She doesn't look anything like her queen image, as a matter of fact, she doesn't look like her description either. She looks white, not pale gray. And the shading still looks like stripes. Make her pale gray, and lighten and blur the shading a lot. Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 03:59, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

I copied the pale gray colour from the queen image. Will reupload on Tuesday.Җ Ѭ ѳ ѥ  ѯ 06:30, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Rubeupluboadubed lol. Reuploaded.Җ Ѭ ѳ ѥ  ѯ 05:04, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Her ear pink is too bright, and there needs to be more shading near the base of the tail. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:36, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, her earpink is HOTPINK. Make it a little paler. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 20:22, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Owlstar (W) For Approval
I'm sorry about the hassel with Feathertail but I got Owleyes (also Owlstar) of the the page you gave me so any crittisism??? 23:41, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I took it out of thumbnail for you. After you post please sign with four of ~. Blur the shading--  Night shine   ♣  02:47, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded

How does that look??? Moonpelt1786 04:54, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

More blurring. Dark hallows 15:23, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks...bumpy. Get the brush tool size 3, and smooth the shading in. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 21:38, February 23, 2010 (UTC)\

Ok thanks!!! Moonpelt1786 02:01, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded

The lineart is blurred in some places, especially the haunch, and the shading still looks strange. Blur it more without blurring the lineart. Also darken the ear pink, and erase the small black dot underneath his chin. (: ♪   B  a  t   ♫  22:17, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks Bat! Moonpelt1786 04:04, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re did the shading and I earsed the black dot and I changed ear color any comments or critism now???

The earpink is too big and should be either more redish or grayish. The shading isn't quite right either. Try looking at some of the tutorials or other approved warriors. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:54, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Moonpelt but he looks a bit blind. Copy the eyes from Icethroat's tutorial or an approved image.

<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 18:44, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I darkend the ear color to a mor reddish color and I changed the eyes but I want to keep the shading because I want it to be a little bit diffrent from the others. Moonpelt1786 04:12, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

What you do is modify a shading stlye and make it your own. I'm not sure if he'll get approved with the shading like this. Haikage Ash's Talk 04:23, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changed shading! Moonpelt1786 16:36, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any shading at all. There are a few gray pixels on his nose. Can you fill them in with black?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  19:58, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the shading look more like shading! 23:42, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I still don't see any shading. It looks like some line art on his back is a little blurred. Can you fix it?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  23:51, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you extended the whisker. Could you fix that too?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  23:57, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I changed the whiskers and yes they were wrong thanks Nightshine!!! Moonpelt1786 04:04, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more. Right now it looks kinda smudged. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:14, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think his fur needs to be a bit lighter, like the leader image... Crystalpaw *glimmer* 23:44, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yes a tiny bit lighter and darken the shading. make the ear pink lighter and blur it--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  00:23, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Made fur lighter and different ear color and bured earpink. 05:55, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink more, then thicken the shading. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:37, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (A) For Approval
I was so proud of my Shadepelt as an apprentice! So I decided to go on doing solid color cats! Like it, or love it? I think it would look better without shading also. And I think I went over 35, but... Don't take this down! Please! Take someother useless message down! ♣Silver thistle  05:22, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading quite a bit! <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 10:07, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Silverthistle, you didn't go over the limit. But please don't call the other chararts and discussion parts on here useless. As for the image, Fawn's right about blurring the shading, and she needs eye white Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 10:08, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Her ear was nicked as an apprentice so should she have a nicked ear in the image? Haikage Ash's Talk 11:51, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Do you all think i'll get it approved soon? Blurred shading ,don't think nick is needed and I don't know how to make a nick on an apprentice, also crossed out words ♣Silver  thistle  14:08, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

She really does need the nicked ear..-- Dark hallows 14:26, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added nicked ear ♣Silver  thistle  15:28, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the lineart on the nicked ear. -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 21:19, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thickened nick ♣Silver  thistle  03:34, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? ✐S aN  dY  19:52, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Silver but the shading on her chest is really dark.Lighten it a bit or blur it. <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny 19:55, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened shading ♣Silver  thistle  22:03, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

The Ear Pink is still a bit dark. I can't see it that well. <span style="font-family:Lucida Handwriting; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">Fawny

Reuploaded Lightened ear pink and made more visible ♣Silver  thistle  22:40, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry again Silver but could you make the ear pinka bit lighter? Really sorry! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 09:11, February 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * I swear my screen resolution is messed up as I seem to be seeing things differently from everyone else on a lot of images recently. Sorry for the premature CBA call (again). I'll try and sort that out... ✐S  aN  dY  09:56, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Its okay Sandy! I just saw it when you put CBA up! Sorry! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 13:50, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened ear pink. Also, I will be gone from the dates March 5th-March 13th, so don't expect me to do anything between and on thoose dates. ♣Silver thistle  16:23, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

I can't comment below Snady's comment. I should have noticed what I said earlier. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black">Fawny 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 12:09, March 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * No need for you to apologise. 'twas my fault. ✐S  aN  dY  15:55, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:38, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

By the looks of it the light source is coming from us. Apply some more shading to the legs behind the other legs. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 20:21, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sandstorm (A) For Approval


I'm back with a new charart! And (luckily) this one is about 1,000 times better then Icicle. This is 37 but 22 of the things were discussions so technically this is 35. I just want to say thatnks to Ashshadow for some great advice and help and to al of the turtorial authors, you were very helpful. Anyways, quistions? Comments? -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:11, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. <font color="Lime" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:green">Saint Ice 23:23, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? i learned an important lesson for the next time I do a tabby:shade FIRST! Then you can do the tabby markings. -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:40, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I put it near the top again. The shading needs some more burring and the stripes need to be thickened a bit more--  Night shine   ♣  01:41, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

You're actually supposed to do the stripes before shading so that everything is shaded equally. In addition to what Nightshine said make the stripes a little longer. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:44, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Gah1 I accidentaly deleted the file! It migt take me a while but I'll get her back up soon.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 16:47, February 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm going to have to disagree Ash - I always do my shading first and use the burn tool to add stripes resulting in the same evenly shaded effect without the overblurred stripes because of trying to blur the shading. Anyway, this is good Artimas, just make everything more polished. Make sure there aren't gaps in the shading, so it looks consistent, and make your stripes a little thicker. ✐S  aN  dY  22:42, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I forgot about burning the stripes on. My comment only applies if you paint the stripes on. Did you check your recyling bin for the sandpaw file? Haikage Ash's Talk 02:25, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Artimas, if you just save the image from this site (Right click the image above and select 'save as') then you can get it that way. For the image, I can't say much that the others haven't already said, so, yeah. <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 20:34, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

You guys are life savers! I'll be back in just a minute. Hopefully.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:16, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'm back. i tried to do everything you guys said. How does it look?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:38, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Her stripes are a bit too dark and I dont see that many stripes on her tail. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:42, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a bit more.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  03:48, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Is this good?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:19, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone comment? Is this good or not? I'm sorry, I'm just really impatient and I can't wait until my first charart gets approved! :D -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:35, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes darker on the leg farthest from us. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:06, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Is this dark enough?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:00, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look a bit SQUARE, was that on purpose? No hurt intended, but I think you should have the stripes move around the body. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 23:03, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't seem to get them circly. Is it ok like this? Sorry, keep in mind, this nis only my first charart.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:35, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, wow! Is this your first attempt at a tabby? If so, it's pretty good! (You should see my first attempt at a tabby. LOL. xD) But the stripes don't exactly resemble the ones on Sandstorm's Warrior/Queen image. Try making them a bit more curved, and make them like tree branches so they split off in differant places. See This page if you really can't get the hang of it. ^_^ <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 18:39, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I know that she's facing the other way in her warrior pic, but I think she has too many stripes. Haikage Ash's Talk 18:47, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Icicle (Ki) - For Approval
Since one topic is discussion, this shouldn't be over the page limit. Although I lightened the gray from what it was originally, I think that it's still too dark...comments and suggestions? -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 23:00, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you about the gray. maybe dodge it a bit. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:02, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  23:06, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say, define the stripe and white chest a bit more so they look like markings... now they kinda look like highlights that are not blurred enough. I think the gray looks fine, but that's my opinion. <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 23:27, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Perhaps lighten the gray a smidge. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 01:19, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I lightened the gray and blurred the shading some more, but I'm not sure how to define the markings. How should I do that? -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 15:46, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, well when I did her this is what i did. I made the markings a very pale gray. That made them easier to blur and it was still very distinct.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 16:33, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

The fur color is pale gray...how do I define the markings that I already have? -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 16:37, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

What I mean is a grey that is almost white but I think for what you have now, it is very defined. Maybe you should blur some more?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 16:45, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur...the markings or the shading? -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 18:36, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry...got to be more descriptive. The markings. Sorry about that. :) -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:01, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 22:56, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

This looks awsome! The only thing I see, is that there seems to be a ring of darker fur just around the white patch on her forehead. I love the new siggie btw!! Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 19:41, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks, Nightfall. :) That was actually shading, but I've lightened it. Better? (Also, let me know if the changes don't show up.) -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   21:48, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

the only thing i see is that the earpink on our right is a bit rectangular. Fix that and she should be ready. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:00, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Mousewhisker (Ki) - For Approval
Evanphoto 11:17, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is nice! But the shading isn't very noticeable, can you make it darker or add highlights? Also, add neck shading, and maybe make the white less bright, more pale gray. Vancou verpath  14:45, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 16:16, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

make the earpink a little bigger and darken the shading on his white parts a bit more. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:18, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, make the earpink larger and darken his shading on the white parts more. Fire-★  22:42, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 13:23, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

His chest looks cream coloured. Go to a greyish white instead of a creamy white. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 16:48, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

His warrior version looks creamish too, but maybe lighten the cream if you can. Haikage Ash's Talk 18:34, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 22:36, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

The grey should extend onto the legs a little, cover the eyes:  Dark hallows 00:12, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 21:46, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

It still isn't covering the eyes. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:40, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 22:38, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the ear pink a touch. This is good. :) ♪   B  a  t   ♫  01:45, March 5, 2010 (UTC)!

Should the white maybe go between the eyes, and then above them a bit, like on the picture? :3 This is very cute! ^^ Brightfrost  of SunClan...  07:37, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Dang! its so hard to re upload correctly. Evanphoto 21:22, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Did your changes show? Haikage Ash's Talk 02:54, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the earpink is brighter Evanphoto 13:16, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

The gray still needs to cover the eyes. Haikage Ash's Talk 14:52, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 10:34, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reedwhisker (A) - For Approval
Decided to do an easy one this time. Comments?

This is great, Goldenpaw, but, however, you forgot to use your signature on your comment. I would add more shading. ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World...19:46, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

It's great! Darken the tail shading some more--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  19:47, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

And also make the whole thing darker. Right now he looks dark gray but he is supposed to be black. His warrior image is a lot darker--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  19:52, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, but he was never seen as an apprentice; it was mistakenly put in his name list but his first appearance was as a warrior :( Maybe this can be someone else though. If you darken it, maybe Reedwhisker?  insaneular    Talk  19:56, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm assuming Smokefoot was introduced to make up for still having Smokepaw in the allegiances in Starlight-Sunset, so the Smokepaw must of been Smokefoot. Gοlδεn pαω 20:04, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Wasn't Smokepaw the cat that fell to his death, or is he from a different clan? Haikage Ash's Talk 20:11, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

That's the common confusion, but Smokepaw and Smokefoot are two different cats... insaneular   Talk  20:13, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Two different cats with two different fur colors. If Smokefoot was apprenticed after Sunset, he would have less than 8 moons of apprenticeship, which is way too short compared to other apprentices we've seen. Gοlδεn pαω 20:16, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

So will this be changed to Reedwhisker?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  20:20, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

To stop some debate from starting, I don't see why not. I just need to change the eye color. Gοlδεn pαω 20:22, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Um..his eye is kind of weird. I see a lot of white but no black.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 16:37, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

There's only one pixel of white. I switched around the shades of his eye, so the black will hopefully show up better. -- Gοlδεnpαω Appare! 17:01, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add another black pixel in the eye, i can see it but the white is still more visible. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:49, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Better? -- Gοlδεnpαω Appare! 22:49, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. Comments before approval? -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !  19:28, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Cloudtail (Ki) - For Approval
Here's Cloudtail as a kit. (: Comments?  Saint Ice   ♣  15:37, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is very good, Icestorm:) But there is blurred lineart on his forelegs and his left eye (our left), and he looks crosseyed. Move one of the eye highlights to the other side of the pupil. -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  15:49, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks, Hawk. (: These changes better show up, or -grabs a torch-  Saint Ice   ♣  16:11, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the movie. Dark hallows 00:17, March 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wait what O.o. Shading, darken and blur the shading. Dark hallows 00:18, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, Shady. (: Reuploaded. Yay, better?  Saint Ice   ♣  21:48, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:44, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better?  Trout leap  01:01, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 20:53, March 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * There are some gaps between the shading and the edge of the lineart... also it needs a little more blending. ✐S  aN  dY  20:35, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. This is as much as I can blur.  Trout leap  21:30, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Than smudge it a little, and then blur. Dark hallows 15:39, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded.   Trout leap ''' 17:17, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

He looks like a pale gray cat now. Lighten him some. Haikage Ash's Talk 18:44, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Pale gray kitteh! Palekit, or Graykit. X3 Icy Invading the fire 01:39, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Foxleap (Ki) - for approval
Yep, here he is ^^ After I completely messed up with Goldenflower, I'm pretty pleased with this. Comments? Brightfrost of SunClan...  17:54, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is brilliant, Frosty! All I can think of for you to improve is blur his haunch. Otherwise, this is amazing! :) x <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color;Purple; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple;">♫ Misty ♫ 19:07, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

You didn't mess up with Goldenflower, she was good. This is amazing Frosty. Make the Ear Pink a tad bigger and a bit lighter. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Cyan; background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Cyan;">Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 19:33, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded! '''Awh, thanks guys :] But still, I hated the Goldenflower image xD Anyway. I made the ear pink bigger and lightened it a bit, but maybe a bit too light pink? :3 And I attempted to blur the haunch a little. It's really annoying because his ear pink is really dark in his warrior image, I don't like it >:3 Hope this looks better. I think I'll stick to kits from now on, they're easier xD Brightfrost  of SunClan...  19:59, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Errrr... any comments? o.O Brightfrost  of SunClan...  07:23, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Did you get the eye colour of of his warrior/apprentice image? And did you use the burn tool to do his tabby markings? I can base my comments on that. XD! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black">Fawny 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 12:01, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes came straight from the warrior image, but I used the colour picker to get the tabby colour, as I wasn't sure if the user that did him as a warrior had gone over the markings more than once. :) Brightfrost  of SunClan...  17:50, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

If I am honest I think you should choose a darker ginger colour for the stripes. The current pnes look slightly brown. Try useing th burn tool. Just to see how they come out. XD <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black">Fawny 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 18:04, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I've tried using the burn tool on him, but the stripes come out quite ginger, instead of brown, as he is supposed to be a red-brown tabby I think? Sorry! But thanks for the comment. :] Brightfrost  of SunClan...  19:06, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think the color of the stripes is fine. maybe darken the earpink some, its a bit hard to see. Haikage Ash's Talk 02:52, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, darkened the ear pink, but I think that's made it harder to see? :3 Brightfrost  of SunClan...  19:01, March 7, 2010 (UTC) I got the first ear pink colour direct from the Foxleap image.

Halftail (W)- For Approval


I'm pleased with this....Comments? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  21:06, February 28, 2010 (UTC)Featherblaze

Sorry this is over the limit :(--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  21:07, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is good =) You need to add ear-pink and some of the stripes look a little cramped. ✐S  aN  dY

Okay, I'm on it. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  21:12, February 28, 2010 (UTC)Featherblaze

Has the new one come up yet? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  21:46, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this over the limit?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  21:49, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

You didn't upload the picture properly. You need to upload it on warriors wiki not a picture sharing site--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  21:53, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  21:56, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

I reuploaded a second one...it's not showing..... ♥Featherblaze♥  Meow to me!  22:14, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. Try doing it again. And here's a tutorial if you need help--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  22:20, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Please resubmit this after the image number has gone down; Nightshine is correct that this is over the 35 image limit. Will archive momentarily. -- Bramble 00:10, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

DON'T TAKE THIS DOWN! *gasps after running after breath* There is another picture that is declined and not for being over the limit so it's technicaly the 35th. --M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT

It's all good Min. Featherblaze, due to other images being declined, this section is fine now, but in future please be mindful of the image limit. As to the image; the whole thing is blurry, as if it's been stretched. That needs to be fixed before anything else can be done. -- Bramble 01:29, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:07, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look a bit wobbly, try making them straighter. Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 05:19, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get on it. ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  16:39, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstar (W)--For Approval
Well? How aweful is it? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 23:14, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's actually pretty good! But I think the yellow on the head needs to blend more. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 23:32, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Not aweful at all. Darken the shading a little. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:50, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Before I do that, which one looks better or more like her leader image? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 00:18, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

The one on the right. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:22, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

The right one. Make the stripes thinner and more Y shaped. Some of the stripes need to be blurred on the right one--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  00:25, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

The rigt one is better,but like nightshine said,make it thinner,(make it brush 1 if you use pixlr,the smallest brush in GIMP.)-- !! ≈Ivy -sama≈  10:11, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

No doubt the right one better. Just work on the stripes like Night said. Also, make the ear pink just the slightest bit darker. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 02:55, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on the head a little more Crystalpaw *glimmer* 20:09, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

When I tried to do it in size one, it didn't turn out well. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 01:00, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Shrunk stripes. Have you ever noticed how a leader is on the cover of every super edition? Firestar, Bluestar, and now Leafstar. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:47, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I did notice that. Blur the stripes on the top of her head and on the tail. Can you make them more y-shaped?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  22:53, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred head and tail stripes. LOL, I like Leafstar. I don't know why. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 00:51, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes in the middle of the pelt and on the haunch still need to be more y-shaped like on the leader and rogue images. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !  23:49, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Crookedstar (A) - For Approval
I like how this turned out--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  00:29, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I like him too. Just make the ear pink a little bigger cuz I can't see it much. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 22:59, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur where his cream chest connects with his brown fur more. Very nice image :)  insaneular    Talk  01:36, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred chest and fixed ear pink. Is the twisted jaw okay?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  01:49, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think it gives him a cute kissy look. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:54, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Add a stripe to the haunch. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 12:44, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded added two stripes to haunch--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  00:18, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  01:02, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

The stripe on the tip of his tail is a little big. Make it a little smaller. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 02:57, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded shortened tail tip stripe--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  01:05, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else?--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  22:47, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

People will comment when they can, please try to wait at least four or five days before asking for comments. I actually think this is ready. Comments before approval? -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !  23:46, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the transition from the paws to the leg. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 01:24, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Gorsepaw (Ki) - For Approval
- I'm pretty sure this is the 35th Image, if It isn't, I'm super sorry!

But yeah, I'm not sure what to think of this, it's my second and my first ginger. I attempted to model the ginger spots off the apprentice image, but I'm not sure if they turned out the way I wanted them to... xD

-Awaits the critique eagerly-

<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Antoi <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">nette 02:13, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

It's pretty good! Blur the ginger spots a lot more though Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 02:18, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Oh, wow, I just epically failed in my attempt to re-upload this. xD

But I re-uploaded it, blurred the ginger spots, fixed a line near the chest... yeah, does it still need blurring? =D

<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 02:25, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say a bit more, and blur the shading a lot too. Also, I'd lighten the spots with the dodge tool a little Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 02:37, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Do the spots still need blurring? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 02:43, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Blurred Ear Pink slightly, and shading on the left side (Gorsepaw's right). Is that any better for the shading? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 12:38, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

A tad more for blending the shading.  Trout leap  01:55, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Is that any better? =D <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 02:19, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see the earpink on the ear with the ginger top. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 11:39, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - Is that Better? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 12:40, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Toadfoot (A) For Approval
He was the only one who became a warrior. Then, his sister turned up out of nowhere in TFA XD I'm still wondering what happened to Marshkit... Anyway, comments? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 02:22, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, his sister showing up was really random. Image-wise, the highlight on the haunch is brighter than the others, so either lighten the others, or darken the highlight on the haunch. This is really good, though. -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 03:13, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Brightened highlights :) Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 03:41, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Looks awesome! Blur the shading some more--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  03:45, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I blurred it as much as I could Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 04:32, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on his face, and also make his ear pink stand out from his fur more if you can. insaneular   Talk  19:41, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I tried to blur the highlight, and I don't think it looks any better. As for the ear pink, should I lighten it, or darken it? I tried darkening it, and it didn't look too good Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 19:55, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Does he need an apprentice pic? If he does maybe darken the highlights a tad they're pretty close to white. for the earpink I would say lighten it. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:14, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

In a few books, he was listed as an apprentice in the allegiances. And I'll get to work on the highlights and ear pink Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 00:29, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:46, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Can you make him more brownish? He looks a little maroon right now--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  01:49, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

And darken the ear pink. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 11:38, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, but I was told to lighten it by Ashshadow. I haven't done it yet, because I'm not on a computer that can. I tried to darken it, but it looked awful Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 15:15, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Cedarheart (A)- For approval
So here's the apprentice version of Cedarheart. Don't go saying there's not enough room...there is one discussion.-- ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World...07:38, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED for some reason where the eyes weren't done and the ears. I'll need to work on the ears....-- ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World...07:53, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED to fix the ugly ears.-- ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World...08:25, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred alot and the earpink is too light for a gray cat. Haikage Ash's Talk 11:30, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED-- ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World...22:55, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch and tail more. Haikage Ash's Talk 02:49, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Is this good?-- ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World... 18:32, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Forgot to shade haunch.-- ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World... 18:36, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blur a little more? Dark hallows 15:50, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone work on this for me? I'm going to be busy starting tommorrow. ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World... 20:21, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

It depends: how long do you think it'll be before you can work on this again? If it's less than seven days it can stay (I think), but if it's longer than seven days then this should be withdrawn, or someone can agree to finish this for you, like was done with Blackclaw's elder image or Sorreltail's queen image. How long do you think it'll be before you can work on this again, Quail? -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   23:43, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind. I found some freetime, so, REUPLOADED. I blurred as much as I could! Please don't push me so hard now. I'm probably not going to be on that much this week. I need to get this approved by St. Patrick's Day. ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World... 00:07, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED FORGOT TO BLUR BACK.-- ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World... 00:11, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Mothwing (Ki) - For Approval
Decline this if it over the limit, but there are two discussions (I think) - the one about the blanks and the confusion of the mousefur apprentice image. Anyway, is it alright? ☼ Misty ☼ Here comes the summer...  16:21, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think this is the 36th image. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black">Fawny 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 19:15, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, I think this is the 35th. Make the nose pink a bit lighter, and the eyes look more yellow than amber. Make them more amberish. This is really good though! Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 19:43, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:17, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Right, sorry! XD! She needs to lokk a bit more 'marbled'. Like her med cat image. Mothwing (Ki) looks a bit..um...tabbyish. I know that she is a tabby but make her look like her med cat image. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black">Fawny 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 12:06, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Marbled like how? :3 ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  12:19, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I would upload Mothwing's med cat image but it woon't let me. Make the stripes blockya dn thick. Not like striped. More liek Mothwing and Silverstream (easy to see on her). Tell me if you don't understand. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black">Fawny 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 12:25, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand, but Fawnstorm says it doesn't matter... so I'm gonna reupload her when I get home cos I can't right now -glares at ancient, prehistoric, dodgy school compuers- ;D ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  12:37, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone else agree that she should be more marbled? I think it should. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black">Fawny 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 12:42, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Edited eyes, nose and shading. Sorry about the "marble" thing, guys! Fawny said it didn't matter, then changed her mind (see the strikethrough comment) and says I should marble it. So should I? Fawny, I'm sorry but I really don't understand what you mean by "marbling" it, but thanks for the advice! Please explain and can everyone else say their opinions? Thanx ;D ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  17:07, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Make the tabby stripes more 'blocked'. Kinda chunky. Like Mothwing's med cat image:

See how the stripes are joined and together? Just have a go at marbling them. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black">Fawny 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 18:06, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the marbling confusion. It's just you said at school that it didn't matter. I don't really see what I can do to edit Moth - her stripes are already chunky and joined together. ;D ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  18:41, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

What else do I need to do? ;D ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  20:07, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I stiil think you need to marble them. Make her look lesss dark because in her Med cat image. Especiaally her legs and tail. Yoou don't have to though. And I sorted out my siggie. :( <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Yellow background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow ">Fawny 12:53, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Why the sad face? What do you mean by "Make her look lesss dark because in her Med cat image"? And I can't "marble" her if I don't know what it means. Sorry. I just don't see what's wrong with her stripes. And I still don't understand the "marbling" thing. Pleeeese someone as well as Fawny comment! ;D ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  17:41, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

I meant she dosen't have dark legs and tail in her med cat image but she does in her kit image. But because you don't want me to comment anymore, I won't. (That is what you want isn't it? Its really hard to understand how people say thins online!) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue ">Fawnstorm 18:40, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not very good at explaining things, but I'll try and help explain this. The tail looks fine, but the rest of the stripes sort of look like Y-shaped tabbies, while on her medicine cat image and medicine cat apprentice image the stripes are marble type stripes. Some examples of of marble tabby kits are Lionheart's kit image, Tigerheart's kit image, and Brambleclaw's kit image. The problem with the stripes is that they're the wrong type of stripes. However, the dark legs and tail are fine, since that's the type of shading that's being used. The image overall looks great, just make the stripes a bit wider and more triangular so that they're less like Y's and more like on the examples I gave you, and this should be good. Does this help any at all? -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 23:50, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Icy and Fawny! Sorry X a trillon for wasting peoples time by being dense. I'm soooooo sorry I didn't understand! I'll reupload her ASAP ;D ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  12:56, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining that Icy! Sorry for not explaining it as well as well as Icy did Misty. *Face pillow*. I got Frosty's text and I thought I had mistunderstood you. Thats what I meant when i said Marble. Thanks so much for explaining it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue ">Fawnstorm 13:32, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Phew. I marbled Moth! Are the stripes alright? I completely redid her. Comments? ;D ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  16:54, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I'm no good at critiquing Marbled cats (When it comes to their stripes) so you'll have to wait for Fawnstorm and Icethroat to give you their opinion. But I think the stripes need to be slightly more blurred. =D <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 16:58, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I agree with you. Blur the stripes a bit and dodge the base of her tail, its a little dark. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color; Blue background:Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue ">Fawnstorm 17:04, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yep, blur them a tad bit more, and then this should be good. This looks much better. -- Icy -chan Happy  St. Patrick's   Day! ♣ 21:03, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred stripes and lightened tail base. Thank you sooo much guys for your comments and your help! ;D ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  07:57, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think the Lineart on her right back-paw is blurred. I am not sure though. Tell me if I'm wrong. ;D <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Green; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Green;">Fawny 09:44, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerstar (A) Up for Approval
Has anybody reserved Tigerstar as an apprentice? Can I call him? If so, I call him!

Crystalpaw *glimmer* 00:00, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Look on the main page where the current projects table is. Use Ctrl F and type in the name of a character to see if it's reserved or not and then you can add him to your list. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:03, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

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Okay. This may be over 35 (andI'm sorry if it is) and just forget the Ravenpaw kit thing, and be HAPPY! However I would like to put this up for approval now.



I'm not sure whether or not he had the scars as an apprentice, but I think I did a pretty good job on him. Comments? Crystalpaw *glimmer* 00:25, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is over the limit--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  00:31, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

>_<*sighs* Must you always put me down, Night? I'll wait, as long as it doesn't get declined. I really worked hard on this!

Crystalpaw *glimmer* 01:03, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Calm down, Crystal. All Night pointed out was that this is over the limit, but only by a few images. Some are close to approval. If this is declined it won't be for long. You can put it up as soon as there is only 34 pictures on the page (or less). As for the image, the shading will need some more blurring, and I don;t think he had his scars as an apprentice...he might have since Thistleclaw was training him, but I never read Bluestar's Prophecy so I wouldn't know. Vancou verpath  01:28, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I second that, Mosspath. Crystal (if you don't care if I call you that) you'r art work is gorgous! But still, it is over the limit. Nightshine mean't nothing against you, and nore do I. But all I'm saying is don't pick fight's with people online, it can get pretty nasty... (I know first hand) ♣Silver  thistle  03:17, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

There's room now, but in future all you need do is check and see if there are 35 sections with 'For Approval' after them to see if you can put one up. The image is very good, but he needs ear pink, and his pupil needs to be in the middle of his eyes. The tabby stripes need to go further onto his pelt, and the shading needs to be blurred. Bramble 23:58, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

He needs more stripes on his haunch, his head and his arms--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  00:05, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Okay! All the changes should be done by Saturday or sooner, right now I'm in a rush so I don't have time! And sorry, Night. Just a little frustrated.

Crystalpaw *glimmer* 00:21, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I think this is okay. I just don't know how to put it in the right place, that's why it's over there... Crystalpaw *glimmer* 22:56, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

I took it out of thumbnail for you. As for the image make the earpink smaller and blur it more. Haikage Ash's Talk 02:47, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks, and the changes are done, but I don't know if they'll show up. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 16:33, March 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Would he have had scars as an apprentice? ✐S  aN  dY  18:53, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

I doubt it, but on the other hand Thistleclaw was quite a brutal mentor. What do you guys think? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 19:40, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think he should have scars. Evanphoto 11:14, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I have mixed feelings of whether he should have the scars on his apprentice image or not. Does the apprentice image represent him as an apprentice near the beginning or end of his apprenticeship? If near the end, then scars would be fine, but near the beginning I doubt it...so yeah, I'm not sure. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   23:40, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

His eye needs to be fixed. I think maybe he can have one scar and that's it, because he probably got most of his scars as a warrior--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  23:47, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Brindleface(Ki)-For Approval
Alot of thanks to insane!!-- ≈Ivy -sama≈  08:20, March 4, 2010 (UTC

Ahhh!!what happend?-- ≈Ivy -sama≈  08:24, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

That's easy to sort out just get a new kit line art and put it over it :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:17, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

FIXED-- ≈Ivy -sama≈  11:52, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

There are 4 or 5 white pixels on the legs. :) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 12:12, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

also you have a white pixel on the right I'll let you find that :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:24, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink should be a bit bigger and maybe a little lighter, and her muzzle has white on it. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 20:07, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Theiur are some strips with no bluring at all, so I say blur all the stripes once more,  Trout leap  21:47, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded

The stripes look black. lighten them a bit. Haikage Ash's Talk 14:50, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded ≈Ivy -sama≈  13:49, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge(KP) for approval.
Well... here you go. I know that Spottedsky reserved this earlier, but there was no CharArt (that I know of) for smudge yet, and it was reserved awhile ago, so, I hope this works out. So... comments?Jmiles 06:46, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Darken the shading, and change the file name. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 11:19, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh wait. You already have one image up for approval. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 12:04, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's good, but the spots need to be bigger, and Maple's right, you have one up for approval already. I don't know much yet, but I think the senior warriors will decline it, or

something. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 20:14, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I thought someone already reserved this? O.o -  B-Day -Kitty!   :D  21:22, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Jmiles, this will have to be declined until your first image is approved. I think one of the seniors warriors will have to decline this. When your first image is approved, then you can put this up. Rain whisker  22:23, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, it said he was black and white, not black with white spots... <font color="#000000">Quoth the Raven, <font color="#960018">Nevermore  00:49, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

It never said that he was black with white. It showed that in Cats of the Clans, but that book can't really be trusted as a lot of the characters in that book were done completely wrong. He's white with black patches, and it says that he has amber eyes, not blue. Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 05:48, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

OK. White with black patches, amber eyes, darken the shading. Consider it done. As for having one image already up for approval, if you haven't noticed already, IT CANNOT BE APPROVED!!!! It was already reserved by Insane. Go up and see it if you want. Somebody please help explain all this reservation stuff and approval stuff on my Talk Page, because I'm really, really confused! Jmiles 19:06, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's fine. I'll decline the Mudclaw now. ✐S aN  dY  19:07, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! After it's declined, can I try Smudge again? And I wouls still like some explanation on my talk page, if it isn't too much trouble. Jmiles 19:15, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

You can continue working on him now, and I'll come and write what will undoubtedly turn into a rather long explanation (through no fault of my own) on your talk page. ✐S aN  dY  20:41, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry. I sorta died on the blur tool. I had a bad day. (my internet crashed twice and I have the flu)Jmiles 05:40, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, I'm sorry to hear that! Well, he looks better. But I would define the patches more, they look to blurred now. And also, add ear pink to the left ear Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 06:43, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes look more orange than amber. Haikage Ash's Talk 15:41, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

OK, less orange eyes, more patch definition, and ear pink in the left ear. Got it. Jmiles 16:21, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Changed the eye color, redefined the black patches. I was a little confused about where exactly to put the ear pink because of the angle that he was at. If it's the exact same image, tell me. My computer did not want to put this one on, and it kept uploading the old one. Jmiles 16:46, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I understand. My computer doesnt want me to upload the image period. As for your image, blur the patches a tiny bit more and his eyes still seem orange. Amber is a bit more golden. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:51, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

'Kay. I'll do that. Jmiles 16:59, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Still not quite amber... I think. I pushed the rate on the blur tool to 80%, and blurred the patches more. Once again, tell me if there's anything wrong with the image (I mean upload wise) <font color="#FF3300" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold">Jmiles Brambleshadow's Den. 21:00, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

The eyecolor is fine now. Sorry when I took it out of thumbnail size it showed up under your first message. Imagewise, try to make the white a little less gray and darken the shading. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:48, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall(K) - For Approval
First kit and first tabby! Woohoo! Comments and/or critique?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  16:28, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his paws.  Trout leap  17:41, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Great job but I can't see any black in/on his eyes.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:19, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred the shading, and the eye has a pupil, Artimas.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  03:05, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Owlwhisker (A)-- For Approval
Here is Owlwhisker as an apprentice! This is actually the 34th post if I am correct (cause I forgot what I counted XP).Comments? Concerns? Snowflight 1  Happy V-Day!!  19:27, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good, just darken his stripes a little and blur the shading on his back. insaneular   Talk  21:28, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened stripes and blurred back shading. What else? Snowflight 1  Happy V-Day!!  00:37, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten or brighten the ear pink because I can barely see it right now. Otherwise, this looks really good. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   17:59, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Lightened earpink. It may take a while to show up (hasn't shown up for me yet XP). Is it too light? Icy- Thanks! -- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  01:35, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Longtail (W) - For Approval
This should be under the limit because there are a few discussions. Anyways, how does he look? insaneular   Talk  21:26, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! I attempted to do his warrior image before and failed :(. Darken the ear pink a tiny bit--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  21:28, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? insaneular   Talk  21:35, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Totally! Maybe add one or two more small stripes on his haunch--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  21:37, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded added a couple more stripes. insaneular   Talk  03:11, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Onestar (D) - For Approval
Okay... the most failish image ever... It doesn't look like either the leader or warrior image... but I tried to incorportate the two. I'd say constructments, but I think critisism? is more appropriate, so fire away! ✐S aN  dY  21:39, March 6, 2010 (UTC) He looks awesome, Sandy :D It might just be my eyes, but on his leader image his muzzle looks slightly cream colored rather than white... maybe change it on this image? Seriously though, if I had attempted this it would have been way worse. insaneular   Talk  21:42, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm boring and sad so I fixed it right away. Don't know if the changes are showing properly though. ✐S aN  dY  21:52, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good Sandy! But maybe add more earpink. -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:53, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

More as in... lighter? darker? brighter? bigger? sorry Sandy is dumb... ✐S aN  dY  11:22, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I think they mean bigger, but I'd disagree. Maybe lighten it, as I can't really see it right not. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 15:43, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

'Reuploaded ✐S  aN  dY  15:49, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I just love this image, good job! It might be just me, but the stripes on the leader image are more dark and dusky looking than on this image, but other than that, it's great! Vancou verpath  00:01, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Swallowtail (RC)(w) - For Approval
ehhhh. I hate it. Dark hallows 15:35, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

You might, but I sure don't! Just make the ear pink more triangular. ✐S aN  dY  15:45, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is simply amazing, Shady! A true work of art! But there are some spots of shading that might need to be blurred a little more, just a smidgen, like on the neck, hind leg, and bottom of tail. Vancou verpath  23:57, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Violet (R) -For Approval
I tried to match the style used on her kittypet image, but I dont think I did such a good job. Comments? Haikage Ash's Talk 15:53, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is really beautiful Ash!! But maybe lighten it up a bit.

16:02, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks Sunny. Also thanks to everyone. You all helped me become a senior warriow. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:42, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! (Ignore me if this is supposed to be there) But the earpink is a bit 'blown' off to the left. x3 <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 18:48, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Thats a stripe. I can define the earpink more if need be though. Haikage Ash's Talk 18:51, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I would define it more. This is a beautiful image! Congratulations, Ash! Vancou verpath  23:55, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. T'''he earpink doesnt like me. Thanks Moss. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:36, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Fur length
It says in Cats of the Clans (I know they have a lot of mistakes), and I think Firestar's Quest, too, that Echosong has long fur. Her charart is shorthaired. ? <font color="#000000">Quoth the Raven, <font color="#960018">Nevermore  21:41, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should change her but both her chararts have already been made--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:54, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

If we change her it will be during a tweak week. She could be changed with minor edits. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:57, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. It just bugs me a bit. <font color="#000000">Quoth the Raven, <font color="#960018">Nevermore  01:28, March 8, 2010 (UTC)