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Hawkheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Well, here's Hawkheart. I like him about as much as I like Thistleclaw. (I. Am. Not. A. Hawkheart. Fan.) Still, I thought he'd be fun to do. All character art is fun to do! Hawkheart was a bit of a challenge, which made it even more fun. Gotta go see the coverart for The Sign of the Moon (I saw it while I was uploading)! Yay! So, comments? I'm kind of happy with how he turned out. :) Holly  dapple  04:19, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, but we've got to figure out which style we're going to use, yours, or Moonpelt's. Personally, I prefer Moonpelt's, it looks more flecked. But that's just me Night  Fall 04:38, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Nightfall. I know my Hawkheart doesn't look like Moonpelt's. I was thinking about how I was going to do Hawkheart for atleast four days. I really liked his/her style too, but I just can't smudge it in that cool way. I tried, but it looked horrific. I am not joking. I can't make it smudged without messing it up. Holly dapple  04:51, July 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well if we're using yours, lets blur in the flecks some more please :) I can see a bit of sharp edges in some a little. They are like REALLY sharp, but they're very defined and kind of make it stick out.-- Cchslogo.gif Gladiator  Band Geek Treble_and_bass_clef_heart.png 05:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. All spots blurred with Photoshop Elements, Shimmerpool. Did I get what you meant? I saw it on the throat patch particularly. Man, I'm sleepy. But TW is over, so I can get back to work! Yay! Anyway, if there are any other areas in particular that look weird, let me know, please. Holly  dapple  06:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

This looks nice. I have two small suggestions: the ear pink is a little big and is almost falling out of his ear. And the highlight on the shoulder, as well as the spots could do with some more blending. Perhaps try using the smudge tool a little on the spots and then blending. It takes some getting used to but looks good. 12:05, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Fixed the earpink, blended the highlight, and smudged and blurred the spots. I kind of like this. :) But I was wondering if since he's supposed to be "flecked", maybe he should look more like Ashfur or Ferncloud? Oh, and before I save this, if I don't respond to any messages right away, that's just because I may not be able to get to the computer (what with the homeschooling, cats, computer, and heat!). But I didn't smudge the paws because two of my cats have shag-rug long fur, and their paws are not smudged. Holly  dapple  05:03, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, maybe he should look more like Ferncloud and Ashfur. Darken the shading around the forearms and haunch a bit more-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:24, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that if you add a few smaller flecks to what you already have then it will be fine. 11:05, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded. I added a few smaller flecks...I don't know if I messed it up. I darkened the shading around the forearms and the haunch. Do I need to darken it a touch more? Holly  dapple  21:04, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Add more tail stripes and darken the shading on the forearm and chest-- 23:06, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * smacks forehead* I forgot to reupload...ugh, stupid Hollydapple. So technically, now he's reuploaded. I did everything I said above...sorry. Holly  dapple  21:11, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Define and blur the ear-pink more. 20:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

He looks great. But can you...maybe add some more shading on the haunch? ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  18:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

He looks wonderful! Maybe add some more stripes on his tail? 20:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks. I added more haunch shading, more arm shading, and more chest shading, as well as the tail stripes. I didn't understand quite what you meant about the ear pink, Frostheart. What do you mean by defining and blurring the ear pink more? Holly dapple  17:03, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ending is a bit rounded, make it more straight to be like a triangle. Other than that, this is fantastic. 00:27, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks, Frostheart! Don't know if I blurred the ear pink too much. If needed, I'll make it more opaque. Holly dapple  21:25, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller. 21:58, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. 22:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I just redid the earpink completely. Holly dapple  21:11, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more defined and blur it some more. 22:59, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks like its falling out of the ear, trying moving it further up. -- 03:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the haunch a bit. 19:53, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little lighter--make the color more neutral. Maybe add some speckles to his tail? Willow heart  1231  23:52, August 30, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Smudge the chest patches a bit. 23:24, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the ear pink smaller and darker. And blur it. 17:31, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller, darker, and blur it. I agree with Icestorm. I hate Hawkheart, and may StarClan light your path. 02:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Try and make the ear pink a bit more triangular Tawny (Talk) 21:56, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry it's taken so long. I had the image with the suggested changes at that time ready a few days ago, but Wikia convinently closed off the uploading, and I couldn't get to it for a few days. The ear pink has been lightened, shrunk, and more defined. It looked better lighter than darker, so that's what I did. I may go back and change the ear pink so it's further in the ear, but I'm kinda busy right now. I added a few speckles to his tail, Willowheart. They're kinda small, but...they're speckles. :3 Oh, yeah, and the haunch has been lightened. Holly dapple  04:04, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hold on, for some reason my changes didn't show up. Lemme try again tomorrow. Sorry! Dumb internet. *starts muttering about lousy dialup connection* Holly  dapple  04:59, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on his back. And the tip of his tail is cut off; try and fix that =) 19:32, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I darkened the shading a while ago, so I don't know if it's too dark...let me know if it is. Here's hoping the changes show up. I think he looks too pale now...I'm not going to explain why, but I'll probably darken him again this evening, if I get the chance.Oh, and as for the tail, I tried fixing the tip, but it looks a little funny. I'm going to try to fix it a little more later. Holly dapple  20:29, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

The end of his tail looks cut off. Desaturate the ear pink and blur it. Blur the spot on his shoulder and blur the shading-- 04:16, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

There's a spot under his chin where the patches and the gray part meet, but aren't blurred. Try to see if you can see it...(sorry, but I'm starting to become REALLY picky) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 14:15, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

A good color for the ear pink would be #F778A1. Blur the ear pink as well. Willow heart  1231  20:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

'''Reuploaded. '''I'm picky too, Tawny! ;) If I didn't get the spot, or didn't get it well enough, please let me know or draw me a diagram. I used the earpink reccomended by Willowheart, and I think it looks better--thanks! I blurred the ear pink as well, and gave Hawkheart tail-tip reconstruction! I fixed it using one of the blanks, without going into detail. I blurred the spot on his shoulder and the shading. Thanks for the advice! Holly  dapple  15:34, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge and darken the earpink into a triangular shape. This is really pretty Holly :) 00:11, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

lol don't worry, Hollydapple...you got it! This is really good! Picky buds! Earth bender Tawny Style! 13:00, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hollydapple, this is amazing so well done for your determination and committment to this image. This looks to me to be more than ready for approval and I actually think the earpink is fine as it is, though I guess that is a matter of opinion. Nice work at any rate. 18:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink, I think the spots could use a tad more smudging. 18:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Looks fine by me; the ear pink and spots do not need changing. I see no reason to not approve this now, considering how well worked it’s been, but I’ll do customary practice. Well done, Hollydapple. Setting 24 hours now. 02:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - D: I'm really, really sorry to disagree with you Bramble (and for ruining 24 hours) but the ear pink looks hot pink to me. Maybe it's just my computer, but that's what I see. Also, the highlight on his flank looks really bright. (sorry again!) Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:30, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'd rather have everything fixed before approval! :) I'll try desaturating the ear pink, but if it looks too grayish, I'll let you know. I don't know which highlight on the flank you mean, because there isn't really a "flank" highlight. Do you mean the shoulder or haunch highlight? Thanks, everyone! Holly  dapple  23:11, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Desaturated the ear pink...let me know if it needs to be changed back. I just noticed something on the throat patch...let me fix that. Holly dapple  23:59, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Repeating CBA?-- 05:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the thing that was bugging me on his throat...is it okay if I reupload it? (It's going to bug me forever if I don't.) Holly  dapple  19:02, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I meant the haunch. (sorry for the confusion) Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:28, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rockshade (W)-For Approval
Fail, fail, EPIC FAIL!! I am NEVER doing a black cat again...ha ha they are unlucky. I know the highlights on the shoulder are too noticeable, but if I blur them anymore, then the color goes missing because photoshops blurring is too strong. So...comments? Earth bender Tawny Style! 15:25, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Use a darker color for the highlight then you should use Pixler.com or Gimp although I use nether, I use My Paint but I alway have to remake the background to make it transparent Rainear   be as silent as rain  17:49, August 8,2010

Blur the shading, make the highlights darker. The shading is also lumpy and seems exactly black to me. Make the highlights smaller. Frostheart ♥  17:59, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I fixed the highlights, shading, and I lightened it. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:28, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 19:08, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are basically taking over the complete picture now. Just redo the paint, add some shading as you would. Blur, then just midtones in highlights, and click once or twice. Make sure it's not bigger than size 50. Frostheart ♥  19:47, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

He looks dark gray...I suggest making the image darker. Dawnleaf 19:53, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

I realized that something changed in the pixlr highlighter, so get rid of the highlights, redo the shading and choose a slightly lighter color for the highlight, choosesize 50 and just pretend thats the highlight. ^^ Frostheart  ♥  22:07, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED:Frostheart, I use photoshop, not pixlr. (I only use it to delete the white part). Anyways, I darkened the image,fixed the highlights. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:30, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights smaller and make the shading noticeable in the leg area. Frostheart ♥  02:37, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I made the shading a bit more noticable, but I epically FAILED on the making it smaller part. ;P Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 13:52, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's much better now. Just even out the shading on the hind leg. That's it. xD Frostheart  ♥  19:12, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Ifixed the shading on the hind leg. Suggestons? Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:08, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch,otherwise this is great! :) 22:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little lopsided. 03:11, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks fine to me. 13:53, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Same here. And actually, black cats are lucky in Europe, and white cats are bad. 0.o 12:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: fixed the hind leg shading. Suggestons? Tawny is here... 22:59, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading.-- 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Where, specifically? (sorry, but I'm starting to get demented ;P)


 * I'd say to thicken it on the chest and haunch but not the midriff, and to blur it everywhere =) 08:59, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: Thickened the shading, but the shading on the haunch won't blur anymore, I'd HIGHLY appreciate it if someone could help me with the blurring, and I also lightened the highlights because I thought they could have used some brightning. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 16:11, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I opened this on GIMP and I don't think I blurred it that well. xD I think you darkened the shading too much. 16:23, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Frostheart! Yeah, my shading is now like permenatly black on like all settings, I don't know why. Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

You should change the opacity, it usually is on 50 you can change it to like 20. :P For Gimp, just adjust the thing at the bottom. :P 18:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I took your advice, Frostheart. Fixed the shading and lowered the opacity. Suggestions? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:39, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm very picky. xD The ear-pink is very blurred.... ♥Featherblaze♥ Meow to me!  22:56, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Great :( ... do I have to re-do it, or...un-blur it (is that even possible?) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 00:44, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is what I do :P. I color pick the area nearest to the ear-pink (the highlights,shadows etc) I fill the pink with that. It's okay if it isn't the exact same color. Choose an ear-pink color make a triangle, blah and then blur it. The blurring should even out the pelt color if it wasn't the same. 14:37, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to fix the earpink, but I made it MORE blurred I think....Random Question, but Frostheart, are you an apprentice or warrior for the PCA?

Yeah, I'm an apprentice. Why? :P

I just thought because you give good advice that you'd be a warrior, and you are very helpful!! :D Well when you get your 5th charart approved, I'll definatly be cheering for you!! Anyways, back to charart, any critcism? 00:23, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look a little whispy, are you using a smudge tool? ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀' GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 00:33, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hehe. Thanks. ^.^ 02:54, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

No, I don't use the smudge tool, I use blur...but I've noticed that it's looking sort of...whispyish. I'll fix it ASAP. 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder, school starts on Monday for me, so I'm not going to have that much time. So on Monday, someone is free to take this and continue to work on it, if that's allowed... 15:29, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'll work on it a bit if you'd like, and if it's allowed. :P 17:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading.-- 18:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: That'd be great, Frostheart! You can start the work immediatly on Monday. And I blurred the shading and highlights as much as I could. 18:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Am I allowed to keep up my Jagged Rock photo and help you work on this? 19:22, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it depends. I might leave Charart for a few months so I could focus on school work, but basically, yes. But I need to talk to Bramble about it... 19:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, don't leave. :( 23:00, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

lol if I don't my dad will murder me (it's happened before...) But I won't leave forever! Basically, I would only come on for like the weekends and a month at a time because my main goal is school work. But definatly by December I'll be a full member again.

Just blur the shading more and this should be ready-- 01:17, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :) Please leave messages on my talk-page to know your alive. :P Just blur the shading a tiny bit, it's great. 02:03, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading more, but if I go any harder, my computers gonna blow up at me. And don't worry, I'll stop in every now and then to tell you that I'm alive lol xD Any more Comments? 13:27, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Try blurring the haunch and chest shading a bit more-- 17:33, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED: I tried to blur the shading as much as I could. Still, theres barely a difference :( Someone else is going to have to try and blur it, because my computer will NOT cooperate when it comes to blurring (first it was too strong, now it's too weak) 01:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Comments before approval?-- 20:23, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights and shading really need to be blurred. But hey, isn't Tawny leaving the project? I suppose someone could always just touch it up for her. 17:43, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree with Mossy, but I don't know about Tawny. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:46, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Since Tawny has left the project, is this going to be archived? 15:33, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Well, she did give somebody permission to work on it, I think. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:57, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

If someone takes over, blur the shading. 23:28, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

She said I could take over, but I still have my Jag photo up, and I'm pretty sure that has to be archived first. :P - 02:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Frostheart, when you get a chance to work on this, give him a torn ear :3 12:00, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. :P 03:49, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - And blur the highlights. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:17, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I will add the torn ear later. 20:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Can you add some highlights? I know they're not required, but without them it sort of just looks like a solid black cat. 07:18, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Something is really messed up with Pixlr's highlighter. -.- Should I redo this? 15:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Since this is officially handed over to you, I can comment on it without getting rocks chucked at me. I think that you should try to get either GIMP or Photoshop. I use Photoshop, it cam for free with my tablet, and GIMP is a free download off the internet. And about the highlights, I'd just say try to put them on as bright as they go (believe it or not, I think Shadow is the brightest setting..o.o) and set exposure on 100% to see if the highlights show up....it might work... Earth bender Tawny Style! 23:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I do have Gimp. I use both for an image. XD 00:45, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Tear his ear >_< 01:01, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

This looks weird, right? xD 22:13, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image, and add a highlight on his shoulder (I know they're optional, but you have one on his flank :P) 23:52, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty. :P First time using Gimp highlights, besides practice. XD 03:38, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lightened it again. 03:11, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit smaller and desaturate it-- 17:44, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Done. 03:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and I'm not so sure about these things, but I think the highlight on his back looks kinda odd, so maybe blur it more or remove it. I can't tell which would look better XD 07:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Added a subtle highlight. Sigh, highlights on a black cat are so annoying for me. xD 15:21, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I added 2 more images. I tried a new style and I fixed up another black cat I made. Which one do you guys think are better? xD 16:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I like the middle one, he looks furry like a rral cat. just blurr the highlights a little bit on it and it looks good!! 17:45, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say the middle one Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 17:49, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. :D Don't mind the ear-pink on the third one. XD I tried blurring the ear-pink, but I can't without ruining the texture. 18:50, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good Frostheart. I would go with the middle one. 01:55, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

If you're picking the middle one (which I suggest you to, it's the best one ^^) then delete the other two and rename it Rockshade.warrior. Then desaturate the earpink =) 02:56, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I picked it, since everyone likes it. XD I'll get to the edits tomorrow, it's kind of late right now. 03:14, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good frostheart :D I'd suggest making the ear pink a tad bit smaller though :) 00:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really make the ear-pink smaller without ruining the line-art. 00:29, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the highlights then. 01:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Try to make the torn ear look more natural. -- 22:11, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. :) 16:03, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

It looks really dark, so I would suggest lightening it. 00:00, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

The color is fine, after all it's supposed to be a black cat. Dapple claw  00:05, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oh dang it, I lightened it one shade. Oh well. xD 00:07, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks okay! Dapple claw  01:03, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a smidge. 17:47, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Done! :) 19:12, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the highlights more circular? They're a bit oddly shaped now xD 00:54, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps blur the main highlight on the haunch thoroughly, so it blends together with the main pelt and does not stand out. Other than that, this is good to go. 02:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Im actually very honored that Bramble commented on my post thing. XD Anyways, I tried blending it in. 03:13, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I love how you did the shading, Frostheart ^_^ CBA? 00:25, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but there is a weird light patch on the haunch. And the ear pink should be smaller-- 05:36, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

The light patch is the highlight and I'll get to the ear-pink after school. xD 14:41, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

♥Reuploaded♥ 22:26, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Maybe it's just me, but the highlights look kind of blotchy. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:31, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

It's just the texture of the cat. 21:37, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dark Whiskers (SC) - For Approval
First black cat. Hopefully it doesn't suck.--Shaf Girl  00:55, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger. 01:14, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes look really really bright. While you're making the highlights bigger, add one to the back and tail. And the face highlight seems really low down. 02:17, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the eyes, add more highlights on the tail. Echofall Fate is in your paws 02:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Lighten the face highlight. Darken and blur the ear pink. Other than that, this is well done. 14:01, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl  14:53, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

You still need to make the highlights a bit bigger on his flank. Make the ones on the tail more noticible. 14:56, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

This is weird...the new edits aren't showing up. You can see them on the two previous uploads before this one on the file history, but it's not showing up here.--Shaf Girl  14:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the haunch highlight bigger, add a highlight to the tail, and lighten his muzzle just a bit. Willow heart  1231  00:23, September 3, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I did all those things, and I reuploaded it, but the new version isn't showing up on the page.--Shaf Girl  14:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I uploaded it as a new file entirely, so now it's working.--Shaf Girl  14:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the highlights on the tail and haunch. -- I c e    h e  a r  t♥  : 21:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur Highlights. -- Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 16:44, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--Shaf Girl  23:35, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Dark Whiskers.sharpclaw 22:11, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

I had to name it Dark Whiskers.Sharpclaw2 because of the error I described above.--Shaf Girl  01:47, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

But that's fixed now. Change the file name to Dark Whiskers.sharpclaw 21:52, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Just changed it right now.--Shaf Girl  23:08, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are really concentrated, they look like spots. Blur the highlights. --<span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command... 06:08, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Reuploaded. And the same problem's happening again...--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:34, September 15, 2010 (UTC) Uh, wasn't clara meant to do this??? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:aqua">Zoe27 <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:violet">Gossip Queen!!! 19:06, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Zoe Clara's two weeks are long past up. Imagewise blur the highlights. 19:36, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights need to be enlarged as well.

Guys, I blurred the hightlights and enlarged them. The problem is, whenever I reupload the image, the "current" image is the previous version before I reuploaded the new version. If you click on the image and look at the previous versions, you can see the version that's supposed to be the current version, but is listed as a previous version. Hope that makes sense.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  18:25, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

If you click on the image and it pops up in that little window, that's the current version. So before commenting/critiquing, please look at the current version.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  18:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

The image in the window looks the same as the one on the page to me. The highlights still need to be blurred. 21:55, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  22:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and give them some more shape. They don't all have to look the same; make the one on his neck curve more to the shape of his head, and the ones on the tail should make it look more like you can tell wheere the light source is coming from. Their placement is kind of off. 18:59, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlights and, like Oblivion said, give them more shape. Black cats are really hard to get right. -- 00:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I know the new version isn't showing up, because when you click the image and it pops up in a separate window, you can clearly see that the hightlights are lighter. At least that's how it is on my computer.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  05:29, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlights look a lot better. :) But lighten up the image a little, cause I can't really see the cat's face. Otherwise, I think he looks beautiful! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 19:25, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:55, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a lot 15:46, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (K) - For Approval
Eh, my apologies, his markings look much like the ones on his warrior/apprentice images. I can redo it, but for now, here he is. Comments? TheBlindApprentice 22:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather doesn't have an apprentice or a warrior image so I don't know what you are talking about. Darken the shading and blur it thoroughly, it is very blotchy right now. Add more tabby stripe and add ear-pink. 22:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. This is over the limit, so this will have to be declined. Try again when theres avaliable space. -- 23:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's fine. I just declined Egg's image, so this is under the limit. 23:37, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

. Blur it, I agree with Frostheart that it does look blotchy. Also, add ear pink. Make the ear pink a lightish color. Willow heart  1231  23:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

I agree with Frostheart about adding more tabby stripes. And if you're going to add some on the legs and/or haunch, you should lighten those areas; the legs and haunch seem to be the same color as the stripes. 00:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Creeakfeather has apprentice and warrior images up for approval, this needs to match those stripes. Otherwise, blur the shading and highlights. 02:58, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather needs to be patched. 03:06, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I thought Creakfeather was a tabby? 13:28, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Er, I think there was a discussion a while ago, and Elorisa decided that Creekfeather should be patched. 13:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, my image is a tabby, it just looks patched. Elorisa -sama  19:44, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

LOL, I don't think you can decide to change the character's appearance. It's just the stripe style Elorisa used, that's all. 21:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. :P But this looks tabby, not patched, so..xD Could you modify it to change the other images? 22:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

It supposed to be tabby...just blur the stripes. It can be fixed. 19:54, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Um.. you should probably add earpink XD --

I see ear-pink..o_o 14:35, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

REALLY? The ears are gray for me.... like just plain gray... weird. Does anybody else see it or am I crazy? =P -- 22:56, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

No ear pink here either 01:31, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I can see the ear pink fine. Darken the stripes on the forearms and tail-- 01:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened stripes and added highlights. Sorry for the wait, I was kinda distracted. TheBlindApprentice 17:16, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

This needs to look like his warrior image which has been approved. 00:58, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for creating such a hard image to copy xD. This looks wonderful, just blur the highlight on his chest. 11:53, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay NOW I can see the earpink LOL maybe make the patches more... patchy? Lol idk how to describe it, but it looks a little too regular. 00:17, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm...I still don't see an ear pink. at all. Make him darker and change his stripes, he doesn't look like the warrior/apprentice pictures. 04:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is fine, Iceheart. 04:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't know, considering i can't SEE it. 04:34, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

That must be your computer Iceheart. I can see it very clearly. Blur the earpink a tiny bit. 19:58, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

no I dont see it either O.o<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  22:27, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oi, Sorry for all this fuss over the earpink. When I first uploaded it, I had forgotten to add some, but I reuploaded, I'll upload again, hopefully it works this time. TheBlindApprentice 23:00, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I can see it now, blurr the highlights on the chest. 23:49, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the earpink. 00:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred highlights, earpink, and stripes. I'm thinking of making two images, one with his stripes more patched, and one that looks just like this. Then you guys can debate over which one I should keep editing. Foggy Latin Freak 23:27, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes with a small brush up and down to make it more patch-like. Darken the shading-- 05:39, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Rainwhisker (Alt A)-For Approval


Rainwhisker as he appeared in 'A Clan In Need' 23:16, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Someone get it out of this box! XD 23:18, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it. :P 23:19, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the spots and make the earpink darker (a little) and bigger. 00:36, September 11, 2010 (UTC) 10:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Making the earpink bigger wouldmake it too big, Iceheart. But yes, make it darker. Blur the spots. 01:17, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Made ear pink darker and tried to blur spots without over blurring. Didn't work XD. 01:28, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I remember it being said we didn't do alterntae images for when a cat was just shown in a picture a certain way because the artist guy always screws stuff up? 01:46, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Really? I'm new here, remember that. 01:54, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wait a minute- what about Ice and Snake? They have alt images. 01:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the patches on his tail. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:06, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 02:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we should have this image here, we can only guess what color his fur and patches are. <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...06:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

You know, I was looking around for an image to do and saw on Rainwhisker's page in the Trivia section 'Rainwhisker is shown as a gray and white tom in A Clan in Need' 11:49, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It could be a gray tom with a white belly, if you know what I'm saying. ;) Also, in the trivia section, it does not have a source, so it could be false or something. :P 15:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Just went to Books a Million and checked A Clan In Need and it's true- he's a grey and white tom 16:14, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I see gray splotches around the image. Remove them. 20:41, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Something's wrong with Gimp- I can't do ANYTHING! It's stuck on blur when I was making another version more accurate to the manga and poof- It got stuck! 21:30, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sigh- I'm sad to do this but I'll withdraw this b/c of stupid Gimp. Someone can take over for me if they want.... 01:27, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

You may just need to restart your computer. GIMP freezes on me all the time. It works just fine after I restart it. 01:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! 14:02, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I put up another version more accurate to the manga up to consider. I don't know which one to use :P 15:11, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think the first one looks better, but that's just my opinion. 15:39, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but the second one's more accurate to the manga. 15:42, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Either way, make the ear-pink darker and a little bit bigger. It isn't very noticiable. 20:55, September 12, 2010 (UTC) 01:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 21:35, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Which image are you working on? Blur the shading on the second one. 19:48, September 15, 2010 (UTC)'

1st one's pretty while the second one's accurate to the manga :P I'm asking users which one they prefer and stuff. I blurred the shading as much as I could 22:02, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I prefer the first one, but blur the earpink on the second one 02:21, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred earpink. I think I'll have to do the pretty one from the looks of it. 10:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Just realized that he 1st one's ear looked weird so I fixed it XD 00:05, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink still needs to be darker. 12:26, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

On which one? 21:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well both of them, but which ever one you are working on. XD 02:18, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Better? I darkened the ear pink and removed the second one 11:11, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink a bit more triangular. 23:32, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest using the smudge tool to smudge it into a triangular shape. 00:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 01:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make it stretch out farther into the ear. 01:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should use the other one if it's more accurate to the manga, since this is an alt. for the manga. We can't say, oh, well, the mangas are unaccurate, this time, because this is for the manga. 21:21, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Kay then, fished it out of the trash 10:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

About the ear, I just fixed it 23:12, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the patches a bit. I like the one on the right, but the head area seems bare. Darken and blur shading.-- 05:42, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have a lot of H.W. so I can't work on this at the moment 20:32, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy (Alt. Queen) - For Approval
Comments? Elorisa -sama  23:25, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable and the shading more noticeable too. 23:40, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is really light, darken it and blur the shading, otherwise, this is beautiful :) <span style="color:black; background:lightgreen; border:3px dashed violet; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:violet">Sunny <span style="color:Goldenrod;background:lightblue;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 2em; color:violet;">Yes O Great One, I shall do as you command...03:55, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks Sunny. Better? 12:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I still can't see the ear-pink. 15:21, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It looks sort of gray. 20:52, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Must be some pale gray. xD I see it fine, though the shading is a bit blotchy. 20:54, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

The colour is fine, but I agree, the shading is kinda blotchy, so blur it ^^ 02:26, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I can't do her anymore. Withdrawing. 12:29, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 16:28, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I could finish this up, if that's okay with Elorisa. 12:28, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Its fine. Cobalt paw  ღ  12:38, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I will start working on it! :) 01:47, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

@Whitestorm, make sure you darken the shading and make the ear-pink more noticeable. :) 02:58, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm not sure if I made the shading dark enough. 02:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more--it looks a little blotchy. 02:37, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, also, there is some blurred line-art in various places. 02:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? 03:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Daisy.queen.alt, blur the shading a ton, and there is some blurred line art. Did you start a new layer for the shading? 19:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading. Darken a ton. Make the earpink a tad more triangular. I see some spots on the foreleg, hind haunch, upper back, and tailtip where lineart is blurred. Echo Leaf-fall.. 00:11, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink into a triangular shape. the shading along the back has a black smudge there. I think it's the line-art. 00:26, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is fine. 14:28, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Frostheart, I have to agree with them. The ear pink sort of looks like a blob to me -.- It's really good, other than that, though! 21:18, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I fixed the blurred line-art and ear-pink. Also, darkened the shading but I am not sure if it is enough. 22:03, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading along the back, and add shading to the face. Also blur the ear pink. -- 22:14, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred the ear-pink and shading, but I don't think she needs any shading on her face. 23:06, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I really think the shading on the edge of the tail, belly, foreleg and, most prominently, the back really should be blurred more! 13:01, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I blurred it enough, but I'm not sure. 18:17, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

The back shading is really dark...lighten it. 18:31, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I lightened it enough. 19:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good now, just blur it so it's not so blotchy. 01:34, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear-pink bigger, it's just at the top of the ear right now 15:48, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what happened, I think it uploaded one of my previous versions. :\ 21:23, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I think it's fixed but I'm not sure. 21:53, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sagepaw (A)- For Approval
Sagepaw as an apprentice. Comments? <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 12:12, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur/darken the shading Darkhallows... Mew? 12:39, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

err...my Friend MAPLEPOOL has this charSpotteddapple 13:25, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

No..she has Birchfall alternate kit. Well, she has that uploaded. 14:23, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

It won't let me upload the new version. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 16:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Still won't upload the new version. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 17:43, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make his image lighter, like his warrior version ->He is pale gray, after all :D 19:23, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticiable and blur the shadings. Also, the highlight on his haunch looks blotchy. 20:06, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and lighten the image. 20:29, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Finally got the new version. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 23:30, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink 04:22, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten/blur the highlights. 23:35, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed earpink and highlights. Anything else? <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 22:28, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, maybe darken was the wrong word. I meant brighten it. It kinda blends in. 01:42, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Match the ear pink from the warrior image, and then blur or sharpen from there. Willow heart  1231  01:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

(S) - Blur the shading by the tail tip. Our User Page!

I would still make the ear-pink a little bigger and blur it. 12:13, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Fit the ear-pink to match the angle of the line-art. 17:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and make this image the color of it's warrior image. 02:55, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'd say make it slightly paler overall and lighten the base of the tail a little. It's quite dark! 09:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 20:57, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights 00:34, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sooooooooooooooo sorry this didn't happen sooner, but homework and playpractice have made my life busy. Also, no Tuesday, my older little sister broke her elbow, so we had to spend three hours in the ER. <font color="Aqua" style="background:Thistle">Dappledsnow <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">The new <font color="Silver" style="background:Cyan"> generation. 00:26, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh no! I hope your (older little? =P) sister gets better soon! And this is looking beautiful, just darken the shading on the stomach and the hind leg away from us 05:38, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Run the burn tool over this a few times; its quite light compared to his other images. -- 20:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Aw, I wish your sister a quick recovery! :) This looks great, and the only thing I can see is that the shading on his back could be blurred a little more. Holly  dapple  22:43, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Will work on soon. Play practice is keeping me very busy. I have two dress rehearsals, one tomorrow and one Friday. And by older little, I ment that she's the older of my two sisters, and she just got a cast, so she's making a good recovery. <font color="Aquamarine" style="background:Navy">Willow <font color="Red" style="background:Silver">song 23:35, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Pikepaw (A)-For approval
I am not sure if it is showing mine? Mine is shorthaired, but doesn't seem to be uploading over the previous version. Darkhallows... Mew? 12:42, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

O.O. What happened to it! 12:53, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yours is showing up in the thumbnail of all of the past versions, but here it's showing a stretched version of the other person's image. This happened to me a couple of times with my own images uploading strangely, and I just waited a while and then uploaded again, so maybe try uploading again? 13:25, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

There it is ^^- Darkhallows... Mew? 11:51, September 12, 2010 (UTC) 1193477C-A375-C968-069C-C1818BA7C5911.03.01

Darken the shading. 16:25, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 23:07, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The eye color looks a little unnatural, but that just might be me 01:07, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller, and you're right, Kittypet, it does look kinda unnatural. 02:41, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink not touch the lineart. 21:44, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink could be smaller all around. 12:11, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Arright. Darkhallows... Mew? 02:17, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

That looks better to me. :) S  t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:52, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the shoulder. 19:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 23:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the face. Sun X Moss Best Friends Forever! 01:05, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. 01:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

By the shoulder it looks to me like there's a random line going through the highlights. Also, thicken the highlights. 21:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, please. 15:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

The shading/highlights look a little...odd. Also, I think there's blurred line art on the neck. 03:01, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. 20:03, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnstripe (Q) ~ For Approval


I tried my best to copy the stripe style, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:00, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 22:03, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I darkend the shading, let me know it I overdid it or if it needs more, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:17, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

No, it looks fine. Blur it now, and make the earpink darker. 22:30, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the shading more and added highlights (let me know if you can't see them) Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:39, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Oops! I forgot to upload the pic first! Well then the stuff I said before, now. Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I can see them. Blur them a tad :3 22:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the highlights, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 22:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights on the tail and haunch could still be blurred. Also, the ear-pink could be darker. 23:12, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 23:16, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

She looks very yellow in this picture. Make her paler. 23:36, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I desaturated, let me know how it worked out, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 23:48, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Her eyes are a bit bright. It looks good now :) 23:50, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I didn't want to change the eyes too much cause that's the color on the warrior image to I darkened it a bit, comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 00:03, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes a little paler, like on her warrior image. Willow heart  1231  00:40, September 14, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

They are the exact same color plus I don't see any difference (and how would I make them paler? Redo them with a differant color?) Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 01:14, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ohh. . . they seem lighten in her warrior image. Anyways, add shading to the neck area (see Goldenflower's image for help) and blur the face shading. 01:29, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

It might be because where I took the color from her stripes, or because her highligts are in differant spots (I'm getting on the neck shading) Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 01:44, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Comments? Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 01:47, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

this is good but i cant see the stripes very well Maplepool 02:04, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Their supposed to be barely visible, and pale. Dappleclaw Can you read my poker face ... 02:24, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

I know they're supposed to be barely visible, but maybe define them a tad more? They're very hard to see. 20:05, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Let me know if more is needed. Dappleclaw P-p-p-poker face 21:21, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you should make them more visible. 03:23, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dappleclaw P-p-p-poker face 21:59, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yep! Looking very good. But the eyes are kinda bright, so maybe make them (instead of all the same colour) kinda shaded? Idk how to describe it, but if you look at the eye chart....



It kinda explains itself XD 02:50, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I did that for Dawnstripe's eyes, but I can make them darker if you want. Dappleclaw Danger! Mousefur bites! 03:23, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I couldn't tell. lol so maybe, yeah. But the rest of the picture WHEW! I am blown away. Kinda jealous, actually haha 01:24, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! That means a lot to me! (btw do you still want me to darken the eyes?) Dappleclaw Danger! Mousefur bites! 01:43, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Personally, I think you should. Other users might disagree with me, though. Our User Page!

Don't necessarily DARKEN the eyes, just add a darker green pixel in the far corner and a few progressively lighter pixels in the closest corner (of the larger eye) 23:45, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, something seems fishy. Didn't Spiritcloud48 have an image like this up for approval, then it got declined because she was never seen as a queen or something like that? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Earth bender Tawny Style! 00:49, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Thanks for showing me Wildheart! I took out the gray pixels, and Tawnypelt, I just checked the page for characters needing pixels. Comments? Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 15:19, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

There are 3 white pixles one by the shoulder and two on each fromt paw -- 08:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I colored in the white spots, comments? Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 17:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading. 23:36, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I blurred the tail shading, honestly I'm finding it difficult without layers! I guess I'll have to do that for my next charart, comments? Dapple claw  02:49, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more stripes to the tail. 00:38, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - Better? Dapple claw  00:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

A little more on the tail tip :) This is lovely Dapple! Sun X Moss Best Friends Forever! 01:04, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I added one, though it might not be too visible, comments? Dapple claw  01:49, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

LOL, I'm active today aren't I? XD I'd say to darken the earpink. 01:55, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - xD Thanks for commenting so much, it's been a while, comments? (btw is said to wait two minutes to see changes) Dapple  claw  02:10, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I understand how you would have a hard time without layers. I can't do chararts without using a separate layer for evetything. (not kidding, I use different layers for colours, markings, stripes, highlights and shading) At least you have the method I told you about for next time. Honestly though, I think this is really nice and near ready, just define the stripes and add shading to the eyes. 21:11, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I added shading to the eyes, and defined the stripes, comments? Dapple claw  22:53, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Pouncetail (Alt. A) - For Approval
This was all that I could find for him being listed as and Alt. as a She-cat. Comments? 11:01, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

I just realized there was a dark patch of burn on the upper shoulder. Opps fixed it. XD 11:16, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

His alternate apprentice should be a brown tabby she-cat, not ginger and white. See his trivia section. 18:56, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Okay i'll get to work on it sorry about that. (: 10:59, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay thats better. Comments? 21:27, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, stripes, and add more stripes. 21:56, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and add more stripes. Make the stripes on his tail more noticeable. 02:26, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Comments? 11:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, maybe darken the shading and the ear pink. :) This is brilliant, keep it up! -- Fawny Keep on Smiling :D 16:15, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay so is this file named right? 22:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

There is a patch of gray behind the haunch, near the tail. Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:10, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Where? I dont see it? 22:14, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The file should be named Pouncetail.apprentice.alt.png. Also blur the stripes a tiny bit. 22:17, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry I think i accidentally put this comment in the wrong section! Dappleclaw God of Ghosts and spirits ... 22:29, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the stripes a tiny bit more(Sorry if this is bothering you, but it looks a bit, unnatural.) 12:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay so I blured the stripes as much as I could. I hope it was enough(= 17:06, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink as well. :) 20:34, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay I blured the stripes as much as I could and darkened the ear pink. 13:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look a bit bumpy or off-set. 17:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Could you please re-word that. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. 18:44, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Could you make the stripes on the upper half of the backside of the haunch have pointyer ends? Dappleclaw -_- 18:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. 02:07, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

There are 2 pale gray pixels on the back. I mean that the stripes are not even, like they're bumpy. :P 02:53, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Okay I tried as hard as I could to straiten the stripes but I had an issue w/ the coloring of the highlights. But I did as much as I could. And I fixed the gray lineart. (= 20:50, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ear-pink still needs to be made bigger. 21:12, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Oh, im so sorry Whitestorm I didnt see your comment! (= 23:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Blur the earpink more. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:19, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think it could still be bigger. XD 01:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm my picture didnt save thats the same one. O.o Fixing... 01:31, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry that I keep bugging you, but now it needs to be blurred. :) S  t  o  r  m  1  7 BirthdayTime! 02:49, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

This is lovely. Darken the ear pink and make it smaller. 23:28, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks great! The only thing I can see is to blur the ear pink. Good job! Holly dapple  15:48, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Thanks guys for the praises! 21:34, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the ear-pink and stripes more, still. 23:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, I suggest using the blur tool, but you probably know all that ;P 00:42, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- I had to make it a little smaller so I wouldnt blur the lineart. (= 11:00, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger, and darken the legs and ear furthest from us to give it more dimension. This image is lovely. -- 21:56, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Comments? 10:55, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lovely. Blur the ear pink a tad 22:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- Comments? 21:00, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Skipper (R) - For Approval
Since one image is declined, this should be under the limit. Comments? 15:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

The under shading is almost to straight and just a little to dark. But it looks awsome other than that! (= 15:28, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Skipper is a ginger and white tom. I always imagine that like a full ginger cat with a white muzzle, paws or part of the tail. This is just a white cat with ginger patches. Does anyone else agree? Also, blur the ear pink-- 15:30, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well I guess yeah, but I do like that color ginger and like Night shine said where the white should be I agree. But Cherryfur this is really good art good work. (= 15:46, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I also agree with Night shine, but he is still really good. <font color="Aqua">Wolfwhisker <font color="Orange">I love Tigerheart! 00:23, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Technically, a two-colored cat (i.e. ginger and white, brown and white, black and white, brown and black, etc.) can be one color pelt with the other color muzzle, paw, tail, etc., but it can also be with patches, so I think the patches are fine as they are. I think the ginger looks a tad bit brown, though, so saturatate the ginger some. The shading goes too much from dark gray to white without much transition between, so make the shading a bit smoother, and add some shading to the face as it looks kind of bland. The shading looks like a straight line across, make it look more to match the shape of the image and direction you want the light to come from. And one more thing: change the image name from Skipper.Rogue.png to Skipper.rogue.png. 15:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat, but for some reason, I always think of a ___ and white cat is usually white bellied or white pawed. xD Make the ear-pink bigger and blur. 16:58, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree as with Icethroat as well, but usually a patched cat has a few big patches or smaller patches only around their back and on their head with a coloured tail. That's just me, though. Also, his eyes are very dark. 18:09, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the eye color is fine, Crowfeather's eyes are darker. 18:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Before I started the image, I looked at Gorsepaw and Snooky's pages. They're described as one color and white and they've got patches, so I just assumed I could do the pic like that. But now that I think of it, I probably should have done it the other way. I'm not really sure anymore xP 19:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. 21:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm having trouble naming the image the right name (stupid computer). So.... I can't really fix that (I just realized it was named Skipper.rogue.png.png before. Now, it's still named Skipper.Rogue.png) :\ 22:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Open the link on the image and click edit page, put the Rename Tag of, and then an admin will move the page and rename it for you. :) Also, the shading still looks too much of an immediate transaction, keep the paws and bottom of the legs the dark shading color, but lighten the shading between the belly and middle of the legs some to have it not so immediate. (Does that make any sense? I can re-explain if needed.)  23:40, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink, but besides that I love it! 02:02, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

He's very. . . bright. The ginger should probably be a paler colour. 02:11, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink and desaturate the ginger, the splotch on his tail is red to me, too. 02:49, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the white transistion. Great job. 22:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, Whitestorm, Ice, and Shadowshine (I should have thanked you in the other response, but I forgot :P). Anyway, is this better? 23:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten and blur the tail patch. Blur the ear pink. 23:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? 23:26, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller, it's really big. 03:18, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Done. Anything else? 20:09, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

There is some blurred line-art around the legs, and the ear. 20:18, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is there anything else? 20:33, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate some of the really dark patches, because they're kind of reddish. Oh, and you blurred the lineart a little bit on the tip of the tail. 23:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpen and darken the patches and make the ear pink darker. 00:50, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the patches are dark enough as is. Blur the patches on the belly, legs, tail, and chest. -- 02:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Still make the ear-pink bigger and darken it. 02:58, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't need to be bigger, just fit the angle of the line-art. It doesn't need darkening, either. 03:20, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 05:28, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the patches more. They're still very bright. 21:07, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ear-pink could definitely be darker. 22:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. It doesn't need to be too much darker, but darker nonetheless. 01:43, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this better? 20:26, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'd says so :) Desaturate the patches more. 21:06, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to desaturate it... but it just made the patches look brown :-/. 22:31, September 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * / That's why I like using GIMP, and making a separate layer for everything. (shading, highlights, white, ginger, etc) I don't know much about pixlr. . . 02:21, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's why I want to use GIMP but my computer can't download programs like that so I have to use Pixlr :(. Anyway, is there anything else to do, image wise? 19:29, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the nose and the shaded patches. The patches on the non-shaded part of the body look fine. 20:12, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

My problem with the patches is that a cat can't have patches that are that bright. 21:40, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. A) - For Approval
Yay! My first charart (finally) for PCA. Comments? <font color="#14e168">ⓔⓒⓗⓞ I'm raisin the bar, I shoot for the moon, but I'm too busy gazin at stars.. 21:35, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink and shading need to be blurred Dappleclaw It all started with a big bang! 21:46, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent job. Blur the shading and darken it. I would say to add a highlight to the chest, but you don't have to. Darken the ear pink and blur. 22:01, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Ear pink darker and blurred, the shading is a tad darker and more blurred as well. (didnt add a highlight to the chest. i didn't feel the need) Echo Leaf-fall.. 22:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little bit more, and blurr the ear pink a little. 22:56, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the back, and a bit on the haunch. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:30, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and thicken it. Blur the ear-pink and make it a bit lighter. 00:10, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Highlights are optional. Blur the shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:27, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and blur it. Also, blur the shading, and maybe thicken it on the back? 01:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

He wasn't seen gray as an apprentice, was he? The citation on his page only mentions it when he was a kit. Please try and find one from later on or this will be declined =) Forgive me if he was; I'm being spacey :/ 02:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oblivion~ it says on his page that he was mistakenly described as gray near the end of Twilight.. he was an apprentice by then. Echo Leaf-fall.. 23:56, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thickened and darkened shading, blurred. Made earpink larger, a tad lighter, and blurred. What parts in general should be darker/lighter/blurred? Echo Leaf-fall.. 00:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur and add some shading to the head. This is great for your first charart. -- 00:56, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I would still blur the ear pink, and move it a little higher, it is about to touch the lineart. 03:13, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the haunch. 00:54, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

If all of Bichfall's other images arelonghaired shouldn't this one be too, for consistency? 01:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think so. 03:19, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, no! -slaps self on head- I never noticed. Should I redo it and post again? Echo Leaf-fall.. 20:27, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Its up to you. -- 21:45, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Instead of redoing the entire thing, which might be kinda tedious, just layer over it with a longhaired pixel.... although I can't really explain it, so maybe ask somebody else for help XD 05:43, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Meh. Not too tedious for me.. though I'll probably have to go through a few of the same bits of criticism... :/ Well, comments? Echo Leaf-fall.. 15:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger and move it up a bit and it's hot pink right now. 16:37, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Blur the highlights some more. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:42, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Teller of the Pointed Stones (Alt. H)- For Approval
My first charart! 22:36, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Add ear-pink. Also, blur the shading and highlights. 22:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add eye shading, or make them brighter, make the herbs different colours to. It's very nice for a first charart! 22:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the herbs a bit brighter and add shading to it. 23:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading. 23:38, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

For some reason it won't show the updated version :( 23:57, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Just upload it later or tomorrow. 00:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, darken and blur the stripes and add shading to the tail, add ear pink, fix the blurred lineart on the body and tail. 00:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I agree, nice for a first charart, but...should he have mud stripes? I'm not sure... Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 00:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

The healer never leaves the cave, so it doesn't seem like he'd need them, but i'm not sure 00:46, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

No, he wouldn't have mud stripes. Wow, this is good for your first! Blur the shading in the haunch, add shading to the herbs and add some ear pink. Sunleap 01:06, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think he should have the stripes. They are on his alternate image! Blur the shading and might I suggest making the eyes a little more amber? They look almost brown now. 12:12, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Starlingflight; his healer image has mud, so this one should too, for consistency. Blur the shading and highlights a ton, and add earpink. 19:12, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Should I do the white muzzle too? 22:11, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about the white muzzle, but blur the highlights. 22:36, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I still have work to do on it 23:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger. 00:23, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and blur the highlights on the haunch. 00:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes. 03:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. 07:08, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on his front legs more. Sunleap 21:31, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Add mud streaks. His original image has them-- 22:05, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink darker and maybe a little more pinkish. 22:39, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't he have mud streaks since he is part of the Tribe of Rushing Water? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  23:13, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think that, because you've blurred it, the stripes have become less visible and patchy. So just add more of those and define them, darken the ear pink and add the mud stripes and there you are. 05:07, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure, do the healers have mud stripes? 13:45, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Stoneteller's current healer image has one. Kittypet, please add mud streaks. 21:12, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to copy the mud designs on his current image. Sorry it took so long, I got held up with homework. 22:29, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is just the stripes, but there is some blurred line-art on the leg and tail. 16:36, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think that's just the stripes. I'm not completely sure, tho. 15:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I don't think he would have that many streaks on his haunch. Please remove some. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 20:45, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I added some stripes so it doesn't look so bare. Tell me if you don't like it. 00:01, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Stonetooth (D) - For Approval
...I like like dis one! lol comments? :3 <font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  21:52, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this the 31st? 21:59, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! You might want to make the ear-pink slightly larger, but besides that it looks great! 22:10, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Define and make the ear pink a little bigger like Whitestorm already stated above. Great Job! :) -- 22:17, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Beautiful. Darken the chest shading and define the ear pink a tad. Other than that, this is just lovely. Well done. 22:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE-UPLOADED thanks for the nice comments everyone! :D and well I fixed everything XD anything else?<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  12:39, September 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * D Awesome! If you can, maybe make the stripes a bit thicker? 17:00, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Theres a tiny bit of color outside of the lineart on the back. 22:41, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

And some color around the neck. 13:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't that the shading? :3 15:37, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are off compared to his elder image. 16:34, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

They look pretty similar to me; other thoughts on this? 02:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I honestly cant see the diffrence with the elder image also if I try to make the stripes thicker they looks like blobs XD<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  02:56, September 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * This is beautiful. Leave him be =) I honestly think that to do any more would be to ruin it. 21:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Comments before approval? 21:42, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

There is a little gray patch on both sides of his neck. Just erase that and you're good to go! 02:32, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I will do that but i cant noe because im only on my laptop with no saved pictures I will as soon as I get back on Friday (read userpage)<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  12:38, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Macgyver (W) - For Approval
- Not that happy with this one. The patches were hard to do. Comments? -- 02:11, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add/darken shading, blur the patches, and make them look more like his kittypet image. 02:12, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Oblivion. Add a bit more patches, and blur the ear pink. Good Job. -- 02:19, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear-pink a lot and blur it. 02:20, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: The earpink looks funny. I'll get at it later. For now, I can't add any more patches, pixlr is mad at me at the moment -_- But feel free to add some patches if necessary. Comments? 04:46, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

It looks more gray than black to me 18:13, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more and blur the head spots, define the spot on the tail that looks like a 'I'. 20:42, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I've only done him for a day and I've lost interest. Sorry, patched cats are just not my thing. Please withdraw this. 01:05, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Then can I do Macgyver (W), please Sunspirit, I was waiting to do another Charart for a while now :( Rainear   Let the rain guide you  01:46, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sure. 07:28, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :D Rainear   Let the rain guide you  08:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, there is something weird going on with the ear. :) 13:29, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get right on it :D Rainear   Let the rain guide you  16:02, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded-Fixed ear-pink shape. Comments? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  18:46, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, and add/darken the shading. Also try to make the patches look more similar to his Kittypet image. -- 19:27, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe just redo the image. 04:59, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes that might be wise because his patches look more like wiggly lines than patches on fur (no offence mean't). But if you don't want to just maybe make the patches on his tail a little bigger. 08:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - If you don't, darken the shading and lighten the earpink. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:15, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reloaded- I redid the Image hopr ya like it. Comments? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  00:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

It looks flat to me... idk 00:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Try to make it look more like his kittypet image. 00:19, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches and the earpink 04:29, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think that there are too few patches. Blur whatever patches are there. Blur the ear-pink, desaturate it a little and maybe make a little smaller. Add a little more shading on his body and tail. Erase the little coloured patch sticking right above his muzzle and nose. 09:52, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

You have the sides of his face mixed up. 22:22, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I can't see the shading at all. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall~alt.Kit~


My first char art comments? Maplepool 18:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Took it out of thumnail for you. Add transparency, rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png, blur the shading and earpink. 18:56, September 26, 2010 (UTC)



Reuploaded better?

I didn't mean to add png on the end, it does it automatically... If this makes it easier, rename it Birchfall.kit.alt 19:13, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

It looks more silver than gray. Maybe darken it a shade more. 09:53, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darkstripe (Alt. W) - For Approval
Ugh. I'm going to kill GIMP. Stupid...it wouldn't blur the shading or highlights enough. I think I'm going to re-do this on Pixlr xP 19:49, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights ^_^ Maybe make his eye a bit more yellow? It looks really orange now. 19:52, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, blur the highlights a lot. Also, there seems to be a highlight on the far leg but not the close one, and lighten the entire thing a tiny bit. His ear pink also looks like a circle and it's very red. Also, I'm a bit confused because it says alt rogue but the image is alt warrior. 20:59, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll work on this later today. The highlights can't blur anymore. 21:01, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image and darken the highlights. The ear-pink is also like..blood red. :P 21:16, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I re-did the whole thing. 23:29, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights still don't look very blurred. Might I offer some tips? I'm assuming you use the same layer for shading/highlights and colour, so just lock the layer. (In the layer bar, there's an option that says lock: with a gray checker pattern square and check box beside it, check the box) then just go to Filters> Blur> Gaussian Blur and blur it however much you need to. It's best to take away ear pink and eye colour before doing so (if they're on the same layer) so they don't blur too. Mind you, this will blur the shading too but it works well. 00:32, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

He looks a bit like a vampire! =P Make the eyes less red, make the ear pink lighter and make it more triangular. His tail looks like it's gray tipped. Try to change that to make it look more black. It's great otherwise. 09:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Blur the highlights. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:32, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Dovesong, I had tried that, but it just seemed to blur the entire image, even the lineart. I attempted to blur it a bit more. I hope it worked. I changed the eye colour and changed the ear pink. 21:34, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Do you have the lineart and colour on the same layer? 'Cause if you do, it won't work. 21:36, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

It looks great now! I think you should darken the highlights a touch, because the change of colour between the actual fur and the highlight is quite startling. I think it'll be perfect then. 05:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I guess that'd work too :) Make the ear pink bigger and lighter, and make the eyes more yellow. Maybe we could make them pale blue, since he's described with that eye colour, so we'd have an alt. for that, too? IDK, probably a dumb idea :/ 02:24, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Minnowtail (Alt.Ki)


Okay my first character art. I had some trouble shading, but I think I did ok. Tell me what you think! I Didn't Slap You! I High Fived Your Face.. 01:27, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear is still very red and it is oddly shaped. 00:33, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

De-thumbed. Smooth out the shading and darken the ear-pink. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:58, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ignore my previous comment, that should be on Darkstripe's warrior image, anyways, the shading and highlights look kinda sloppy and steaky. Make the ear-pink smaller. 03:02, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

How about now? I Didn't Slap You! I High Fived Your Face.. 10:43, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, blur highlights. And in answer to the comment above, is that your sig? Because it isn't showing up properly. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 17:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading. LOL, in Urban Planet there was a shirt that said that, but I didn't get it :P (The High Five Face Thing) 21:33, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

De-thumbed. Blur the shading under the jaw. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:30, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Now how is it?! I Didn't Slap You! I High Fived Your Face.. 00:44, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Rename this Minnowtail.kit.alt.png. Darken and blur shading, blur ear pink-- 05:33, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Rippletail (Alt A) - For Approval


Rippletail is mentioned as a she-cat in Twilight and on page 161, she is shown to be silver pelted. My first Charart! Comments? 08:14, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the haunch. 15:35, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

It's great for a first charart! Blur the haunch and add a highlight to the muzzle. Clarr issa! ☆ My talkpage! 17:37, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights, it's really 'white' right now. :P 00:18, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Darkened the highlights, blurred the haunch, moved the face highlight from the face to the muzzle. Anything else? 05:08, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

So is that it? Should I correct anything else? 12:18, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, all I can say is make the highlights more visible. Looks great :) 21:37, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Re-named the file Rippletail.apprentice.alt (yeah I know it should've been done first!), Tried to make the highlights more visible, but I won't dare to do it more because they're looking white otherwise. Blurred it a little more too. 09:02, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Harveymoon (KP) - For Approval
19:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blurr the shading a lot. I like the collar :) 19:46, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Blurred shading. 19:52, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

LOL, rainbow collar. Blur the shading some more, and his pupils are very. . . uh, thick? XD 21:35, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. He looks very stylish, does he not? :D Blurred shading, and his pupils are big like that because it's dark xD 21:55, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad and make the ear-pink bigger. 21:58, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Darkened shading, and the earpink is big enough, I think :D 22:08, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Cobalt paw  ღ  22:24, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her hind flank. Maybe add a bit of shading inside the ears? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Blurred shading. The light source is coming from the left, so the shading cannot be on the left ear. 22:36, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Love the collar. :P Blur the shading on the haunch a bit. --Dawnleaf 22:50, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading-- 23:13, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

RAINDOW COLLARS! FTW! lol anyways The ear-pink looks..strange it looks like the side of the tip is gone I hope you understood that XD<font color="Violet">Mossleap <font color="Orange">You burnt my ice cream!!!  23:55, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Fixed earpink, blurred and thickened shading. 00:22, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Did you add shading to the nose? If you did, nevermind. xD Darken the shading on the tail. 02:53, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

The nose doesn't have to have shading, its optional. -- 03:01, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I personally don't like the big pupils, they kinda scare me, but that's okay. At the bottom of the ear there seems to be a small chunk of ear pink missing. 03:53, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I know it is optional, but I personally think that it adds more depth and image to it (even if it is just a tiny bit). 04:19, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should blur the transition between the shading since it look rather abrupt. And I do think you should carry out Frostheart's idea; it sounds pretty cool actually! =P 10:21, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Blurred shading, and I think there's shading on his nose xD I don't know what you meant by the ear pink, Mosspool, but I think I fixed it. 00:11, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. I love the rainbow collar. It's a nice alternative :) 10:21, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Alt. Kit)-For Approval
My first charart! Comments? ^^ Midnitesky

Hmm.. there is somethin wierd going on with the shading on the back. I think you need to blur it some more or something. 21:18, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, blur the shading, and thicken it a bit, too. I think you accidentally blurred the eye. Nice job, though ^ ^ 01:34, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Something looks wrong with the eyes to me, I'm not sure if it is just the style, Darken the shading on the paw on the far right. 14:42, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. '''Darkened shading on paw, blurred shading on back, (tried to) fix eyes. Midnitesky

Swallowflight (R)- For Approval
I uploaded my image over this one but it's not showing yet. If it doesn't show up I'll just upload it with a different name. 22:05, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ok here it is. Comments? 22:25, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, he looks so cute :3 Just lighten the highlights and maybe make the one on the tail a bit bigger. 01:39, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks Mosspool :). I tweaked the tail highlight a bit but I think he'll start to look more like a dark gray cat if I lighten the body highlights any. Comments? 19:57, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

By lightened I meant make them less visible. Isn't that what lightened means, or did I miss something? :P 21:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so in charart ways..I thought it means the same thing as brighten. xD I think darken makes it less visible, confused. o-o 14:23, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Mapleshade (W) ~ Declined
Since Briarlight was declined. Here's another. I might wanna make the ginger/golden brown patches a bit darker. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:15, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Night Whisperers wasn't released yet, so is this going to be declined? xD 22:22, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Many users have already tried to post Mapleshade, and have all been declined. Since Night Whispers isn't out yet, she cannot have a charart. 22:33, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Plumwillow (Ki) - For Approval
Critiscism and comments please! Sunleap 22:25, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is hard to see, and you could defind the earpink a tad, plus the nose looks gray, color that the same as the earpink. Dapple claw  22:34, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sunleap 22:45, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shrewtooth (KP)~ For Approval
Not praticularly happy with this one. Comments and thoughts? 22:29, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me or does the linart on the face look grayish? Don't forget to color the nose, and the earpink could be more of a triangle shape, and really blur the shading. Dapple claw  22:32, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

It does look kinda grayish to me, and the nose does not need coloring. xD 22:42, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

But his rogue image has color, shouldn't this one too for consitancy? Dapple claw  23:02, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 23:14, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, add more shading to the face. Darken the nose. 04:00, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rr-uploaded. 23:23, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerstar (Alt L) ~ Declined
This is my third charart, and was fun, yet annoying to do. So, comments? (this is under the limit, this is like 23rd) Earth  bender Tawny Style! 23:00, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

This should be declined..right? o_o 23:03, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if people really didn't see that I undid their edit, or are just pretending. I undid your editing of the table, giving a reason in my summary. Frostheart, you're right, this is declined. 23:05, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Um.. I haven't been on for a while... Did I miss something? Why is this being declined? 17:19, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Swallowflight (W) - For Approval
Swallowflight's warrior image. Constructments?

Looks great! Darken the shading and lighten the ear pink.-- 03:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll get right on the shading thing, but I don't think I'm going to change the ear pink unless the ear pink on Ashy's rogue image for him is changed, too, and if you suggest it there and she changes I will too. 03:59, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Briarlight (Alt. A) - For Approval
I really hope this isn't declined. Comments? I hope the line art looks okay-- 03:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the legs less. . . straight? Ha ha, I guess I mean they aren't curved enough and it looks a but unnatural (I hope you understood that |:P) 03:57, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I think this is going to be declined. We're currently debating about whether to add Brightheart's injured side of the face and we're still thinking about injuries. 04:05, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) - For Approval
Not so proud with this one. -- 07:15, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and darken the shading. -- 00:23, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (Alt. MC) For approval
FIrst charat for the project! Comments? I know she doesn't have an "awkwardly twisted leg", and I just couldn't hand-make one. I, personally, think she turned out good. The Dodge tool on the program i use for charats is REALLY strong, so i was kinda worried about that too. 19:31, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

First of all, take it out of the thumbnail. Second, this is in the wrong section. <font color="#ca6ff">Lavenderheart <font color="#787878">Windwillow<font color="#52ff9d">Mintwish 19:39, September 30, 2010 (UTC

Where did you find a reason to do this? She has no "alternate" appearances on her page... I don't see why this should stay up for approval. Oh, and next time please put your images in the "images up for approval section". I've moved it for you, but just for next time. 19:42, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, i'm new. but please, Cinderpelts current charat is REALLY bad, and i wanted to make a charat... but whatever. don't approve it if you don't want to. 20:23, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

You can't just create a new image for whatever character you want, and what is wrong with her current charart? It looks completely fine to me. 20:25, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Her current charart looks just fine. <font color="#ca6ff">Lavenderheart <font color="#787878">Windwillow<font color="#52ff9d">Mintwish 20:28, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Millie (Alternate Kittypet) - Declined
I know... She's pretty bad. I tried really hard on her. Please don't say anything bad about it, for its my first charart on this site. Comments? <font color="#ca6ff">Lavenderheart <font color="#787878">Windwillow<font color="#52ff9d">Mintwish 20:28, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

-sigh-... For the fourth time, we are not creating new images for different manga pictures until the related forum discussion is closed. Declining. 20:31, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Cora (W) - For Approval



 * facepalm* Took me long enough! :) Constructments? 20:33, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Forum Discussions
I've posted some new topics in the Project's respective forum. Please post your ideas and suggestions there. Links: here, here, and here. Thank you, 14:48, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Joining?
Hi! I was wondering if I could become a member or something? I'm not very good at chararts (I'd post one of my random one's but I don't know how to do that) but I try, and I can learn. I guess I need a mentor first? Aspenheart 23:47, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Actually no, you don't need a mentor. I just stared at random charart and said 'That looks cool' so I made myself one and later learned MUCH more through Mistyheart's guide (i depend on that guide) 00:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

A lead will add you soon, you can check all of the apprentice tutorials for help. 02:48, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll try working on some, but can anyone tell me how to post it on here? I use Pixlr, and it's hard to save sometimes. Any suggestions? Aspenheart 22:44, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you as an apprentice. You can reserve an image on this page and apprentice tutorials can be found here. Be sure to read the guidelines before reserving a charart. Welcome to the project!-- 23:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Where could I find a cat who needs an image? <font color="#0033FF" face="Comic Sans MS" style="background:green">Aspenpaw 00:31, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Alternate image
I don't understand what alternate images are for. Sunleap 19:07, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Alternate images are for cats with multiple descriptions in the books. 19:12, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, like if a cat is brown, and was called gray. You know those mix-ups the Erins make. 23:23, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Join
Can I join? <font color="#001685">Bluewing's Wrath <font color="#7700d9">"I will slice you open until blood laps at my paws, so you know how much pain I felt!" 23:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sure you can join! Welcome to the project, Bluewing. Bramble or Oblivion will add you to the board soon. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 01:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

This user's name isn't Bluewing, It's 4pinkbear.<font color="Aquamarine" style="background:Navy">Willow <font color="Red" style="background:Silver"> Garcia- <font color="Violet" style="background:Purple">Shapiro 22:27, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you as an apprentice. You can reserve an image on this page and apprentice tutorials can be found here. Be sure to read the guidelines before reserving a charart. Welcome to the project!-- 23:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Declined?
I looked and I couldn't see my charart (Tawnypelt alt.kit)! Did someone decline it or something? Mistfire Ready, Fence! No, don't spear the kitty! 02:28, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it was declined to do lack of work. 02:36, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Bramble told me if i wanted to join to ask on the talkpage of the prject...is this it? i really want to join =) I'm accepteble at charats 19:59, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure a leader/deputy/senior warrior will add you soon. 20:10, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

kk thnx ^.^ 20:24, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you as an apprentice. You can reserve an image on this page and apprentice tutorials can be found here. Be sure to read the guidelines before reserving a charart. Welcome to the project!-- 23:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Whitethroat?
What happened to Whitethroat's section? I can't seem to find it in the archives or on the page.-- 22:54, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

That's a very good question... I'll look through the history, and do a double check in the archives. 23:06, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I can't find Leopardstar either. 23:11, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

They both got approved. They're under Approved Section 64. Congrats! :) ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:21, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oh strange, Whitethroat wasn't there a little while ago. Whatever- 23:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I just added Whitethroat like two minutes ago. I can't find Leopardstar :\ 23:39, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Owlstar
So, I did Owlstar's apprentice charart, and it got approved. (yayz!) Can I upload the image to Owlstar's page? 01:00, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

It is already on his article-- 01:08, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Articles need chararts
are we allowed to add and delete characters from that page and put up notices about whether a charart is in the progress of being approved? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 02:24, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean?-- 02:34, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

She means on the Needed Charart list. It is a good idea, that way people will know what's getting approved and what's not. 10:25, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

The only reason I'm against this idea is because just because something's up for approval doesn't mean it will get approved. We would have to edit the page every time someone's two weeks are up or when an image is declined. 20:26, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I could do that, if you wanted. I check this page like 5 times a day. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 23:19, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * But why should we clutter recent changes with those updates? People have eyes and could look at the already existing lists and the talk page and figure things out for themselves. 03:24, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerstar?
On the Needed Art for Characters page thing, it said that Tigerstar needed a Alt. Leader image. Is that true, and if so, what should it look like? <font color="#0033FF" face="Comic Sans MS" style="background:green">Aspenpaw 00:43, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Don't do Tigerstar's alt leader (for now). We are discussing alt images and if you put it up for approval, it will be declined, along with the other two posted. 00:44, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Should I delete it off my "Reserved Images" thing? <font color="#0033FF" face="Comic Sans MS" style="background:green">Aspenpaw 00:47, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. 00:50, September 30, 2010 (UTC)