Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Briarkit - For Approval
I drew Briarkit. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. G B 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

A few things. One, the background cannot be colored, and also needs to be transparent. I can fix that for you. Two, the eyes are "missing." Three, there needs to be more blending and shading. FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

1. I will fix the background, but I would appreciate it if you made it transparent.2. Her eye-color hasn't been said yet; if it is revealed in Long Shadows, I'll add it.3. If you can give me some tips on how to do the shading and blending, I'll work on it. G B 14:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Idf you downloaded an art program you should have a blurtool if you do you use a darker shade around the edges then you use the blurtool to blend them together.--Redflare 14:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I reuploaded Briarkit; I attempted to some shading. Like it? G B 15:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It's better!-- J K  O  21:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jakko! FxC, any comments? G B 22:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the great comments! If there's anything else I can do to improve it (besides blurtool :p), tell me! G B 22:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks better. The outline need to be black though. For the eyes, I know it hasn't been revealed. I suggest green - it's really neutral. --FxC **The Waterfall** 02:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If we left things out to wait for details from the books, pretty much none of the characters would be able to be done. I'd personally suggest a generic cat-eye-color like amber. Outlines need to be black. Shading is needed. And the pink selected for inside the ears... It's rather... bright and unnatural.. Maybe suggest a softer, gentler pink.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Added her eyes. But I forgot about the black outline, fix that as soon as I can! G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Did the outline. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like the outline was changed from the original lineart... and the eyes... have this creepy staring Zombie thing going on... <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Kitsufox is right. It does look like a zombie with these eyes.ZZ Top 19:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should just draw in little pupils to make it look more natural. 97.115.124.162 03:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree...-- J K  O  03:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

This really does look good, GB. Just draw some pupils in like 97... said and blur the shading and ears and it'll look great! -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I have GIMP now! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Much improved. The eyes are still... a bit off. You might wish to spend some more time on them. And the shading needs to get blended into the picture, as does the pink on the inside of the ears (right now it just looks like a dollop of paint fell there). You've sorted the outline issue wonderfully, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Kitsu! I'm on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The ear pink is still unblended and incredibly bright. The shading is still un-blended. The eyes do look good, though. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll take your advice, Kitsu. I'll work on Briarkit. On the changes. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Your'e so close. I think what'll help is making the pink of the ears more triangular. 97.115.120.104 01:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The pink is really a bit bright yet for such a dark furred cat. And blending it a bit more, so it's just a hint of how thin the fur on the inside of the ears and they'll be pretty good. You should also blend a touch more under the chin, as that shading line is still really sharp. You also missed shading on the bit of belly that shows, and want to make sure all your shading transitions are nice and smooth. You're almost there! <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on this tomorrow. (SB's using the computer, which has GIMP on it.) <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 22:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The hard transitions between colors are still there. They need to get blended. Shading needs to be smooth and not look so sharply defined against the rest of the pelt. You're just about there. Get the blending, and I don't think I'll have anything else. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll work on it tomorrow. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 21:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 03:16, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

The hard lines are still in the shding, I desparately wangt the shading and blending amped up so she has that aceppted look. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse 01:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Um... what? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 21:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I typed too fast whil holding something. What I meant is that she needs blending on the hard transitions on the shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 18:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me. ;) --Mumble785 23:30, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Blanks - For Approval


I'm back! This time I'm trying to contribute with these medicine cat blanks. I made them look as realistic as I could, and tried to stick with the style of the previous blanks. And, as trivia, the herb that the medicine cat is carrying is coltsfoot! Well...if one were to color the flower yellow. XD But either way, constructive criticism is welcome. I hope these are fine! C: --Hazelflower 04:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Me likey! --Spottedleaf x firestar 11:10, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool! The coltsfoot was definately a nice touch!-- J K  O  13:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

First of all, there already are medicine cat blanks up for approval. The coltsfoot was nice, but these blanks look a bit manga-ish. Good effort though. --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 13:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know there couldn't be more than one up for approval at a time!! I'm sorry. D: Also, do you have any suggestions, perhaps? It'd be more helpful if you were to tell me how to make them look more realistic, rather than just saying they look mangaish, ya know? But I really appreciate the honesty. :D --Hazelflower 20:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, the eyes need to be a bit bigger, and maybe even out the facial features, so the forehead isn't so big? --<span style="font:11px Comic Sans MS;display:inline;border:#00CCCC 1px solid;background-color:#996633;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">FxC **The Waterfall** 00:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

There can be more than one of a certain blank for approval at a time; just because one is already p, doesn't mean that another can't be posted.–– Σulãlíã 459 678 00:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I think Kitsu is going to deal with this problem soon, that way there won't be any arguements. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * And also I would like to tie in with Eu, the person said they'd like to decline the art themselves so really its ok for another blank to be up. Kitsu just hasn't been up to update it so I see nothing wrong with it all. Also GB and FB I know you guys are helping out alot while Kitsu is away, but you don't have to act like you guys are the leaders of this. I'm just saying how it feels to me. Anyway...I personally love the blank Hazelflower. Great job and they do seem realistic. Maybe you could even redo some of the other bases, you know? -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 04:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, FC. I really appreciate it! C: And I hope it didn't cause any controversy...? I just wanted to make some blanks. XD~ And thanks, Shim-Shim. I appreciate the compliment! :D -Hazelflower 04:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Update! Okay, so I made the foreheads smaller like you (sort of) suggested, FC. I tried to move the facial features around, but it just looked really weird to me. Either way, I hope it looks a little better now. -Hazelflower 00:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Let's get this party started... Very nice work. But not 100% set for approval, as I have a few tweaks. They all probably stem from what I think is a usual Anime-style of drawing that you have. It's not necessarily anything bad, just some tweaks I'd like to see to get them to fit a bit more with existing blanks and amp up the realism a touch. You've got a great start, though. I like the head as it is now. You might want to raise the eyes a pixel or so, but I don't know if that would acctually help deal with the high cranium. It might acctually be best as it is now. Now... Something about the far-foreleg is weird to me... I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's just that it starts so far forward compared to the other. You've acctually got the same effect happening on the far-hind, also. And the tail seems... a tad long. You've got a stellar start, however. OH! And for the longhairs... Can we get a touch of shaggy on the head and legs? Not too much, just a bit! Like at teh elbow and knee and between the ears. Not too much, just a little so they look less sleek. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

All right! :D I worked really hard on improving these, and I hope that they're to everyone's liking. I even moved the eyes up a pixel (and the cat's left eye closer to the other just a bit) and I quite like the result. C: -Hazelflower 22:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They're looking great. I still have one thing I think needs work. It's more pronounced on the shorthair... But there's just something a little weird about the connection of the neck to the body. You're getting there, and it's looking excellent. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Kitsu! Sorry I haven't said anything in, what, a few days? School was busy this week, but now it's the weekend! I'll give an update as soon as I've fixed it. C: -Hazelflower 20:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Update again!! Okay, so, I finally found the time to tweak it just a tad. I brought in the back neckline a bit on the short-hair bases, and I moved down the long-hair back just by about a pixel (but I'm debating on just moving it back up). So, I hope this update is all right! -Hazelflower 02:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks great to me!-- Jakko 123  21:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If you shift the shoulder-blade you added in back a bit, I think it'll be perfect. Putting it in kinda... got my brain around what was off about the shoulder area. Also, keep in mind you'll need to scale the image, also, so that it's in scale with the Warrior Pixel. Great work! <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

How do you tell the difference between the male and female blanks? They all look like females to me. User:Mallinois/ Coyote=background:Black>Coyote  The Doghouse  00:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

The eyes - the females have more pointed eyes where as the males have rounded edges.-- Sandy 20:15, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

These are great, I hope they get approved. Nice touch ith the herbs.--Redflare 19:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Still, they all look like females, so I suggest adding a more masculine quality to the males. Warm Regards, <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  20:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I like them, but go with what malinois said(make males more massculine), and the full sized blanks are way to huge... --Mumble785 23:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Crowfeather- for Approval

 * Many might remember the first image I tried out when I first joined. I did Crowfeather along with Squirrelflight. Though Squirrelflight was made around the same time and approved, I never got around to edit poor Crowfeather. Since I finally have time on my hands I've reuploaded him. I remembered Kitsu saying I needed to re-add the line art back to him. So here's Crowfeather with the lineart back again and the same coloring. Comment please :) -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 06:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

That's really good! I couldn't do better than that! >_< --Leopardstar&#39;s Ultimate fan 13:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

The shading on his back looks... awkward. Also, the pink part of his ear looks like a perfume bottle instead of a triangle. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah I remembered Kitsu saying something about it too. Well now here's the update version. I redid his ear and decided on my new way with shading. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 17:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, now he looks like someone stuck their hands in like, five different types of black paint, and rubbed their hands all over him. He needs to be one color, with shading. The ear looks better, though. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 17:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, GB, with some blending his hindquarter will be wonderfully shaded and look nicely 3D. Now, Shim, you just need to get the head and forequarters in the same way and blend everything together. The ear... I would love to see less pink because dark furred cats have dark skin. And the pink nose... Please do away with it, as it looks... rather out of place. Great improvements so far, I look forward to seeing you take it the rest of the way. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Got it Kitsu. Here's the new uploaded version of Crowfeather. I did all what you said, but I think I took out too much pink. Comments please ^_^ -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 00:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think more pink can come out. I hate bright pink ears. They look terribly unnatural. Google some black cat pictures and you'll see what I mean. The hindleg looks great, now blend some more on the forequarters, try and get a more defined shoulder going on, and add shading to the head. You're doing great. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:49, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. Just to let everyone know I shall probably be away for about a week or two. Though a week is the least amount of time I'd give. So if this gets moved I under stand. Just to inform everyone.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 02:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be leaving this one, just so that no one starts their own version of him. This one is darn-near approved, and I'd have to have the work duplicated. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm back! And thank you so much Kitsu for holding Crowfeather. Well here's his updated version. I love how much he has improved.-- Shimmer Crytals 03:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Voletooth - for approval
Okay, I tried an image of Voletooth. Constructive critisism welcome :)--Sandstar12 21:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

This brown has a slight tan tinge to it. Also, there's something in the background that looks like the shading of a white cat. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I sorted the background and darkened his colour a bit. --Sandstar12 12:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

That's really good! And reallistic! --: Leopardstar's Ultimate Fan 15:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Leopardheart--Sandstar12 15:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm... you could also touch up the pink part of the ear a bit. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I increased the pink colour--Sandstar12 16:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

The color was fine; it's the fact that the ear looks like you just stuck it on and blended. It needs to be more of a triangle shape. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 17:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, how about now?--Sandstar12 18:46, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a good start, but there's still some work to do. The shading needs to be completed (why none on the muzzle?) and the shoulder needs some definition. The ear pink needs some blending, and the shade could be toned down (really bright pink never looks quite right). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I sorted the ear, added some shading around the muzzle and shoulder areas as well as some highlights on the flank and middle chest area. I also blended this shading more thoroughly. -- Sandy 19:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I think its a beautiful pic, Sandy. The shading really gives it a 3D touch and blend. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 19:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Bramble!-- Sandy 20:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Anything else needs doing?-- Sandy 21:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's looking really good, but I have a few things for you. The shoulder/neck shading is a little weird... I think because there's no shading creating any roundness for the head. The tummy/elbow/knee zone is pretty much unshaded and could use some. And the shading could all use a touch more blending, as there are a number of points where things look like markings rather than shading. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I added some shading around the head and on the tummy/knee area. I also blended all the shading more thoroughly-- Sandy 17:37, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks Great! -- <font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  20:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Moonflower?
Would we consider Bluestar's mother as an elder or a warrior? Or a queen? Because I'd like to do her and I don't know if I should use the warrior base. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 23:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Anyone out there? -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. I'm not sure about this - we don't know whether she ever became an elder do we? I don't think the books ever say her status when she died so I would personally picture her as a warrior unless it states otherwise. -- Sandy 20:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

We practically need a genetic image or those situations when we're just not sure... Maybe someday. And the matter bears discussion... I don't like the idea of just guessing she died in combat without ever retiring. She lived in times of relative peace from what I can tell. The books chronicle times of upheaval, not the status quo of the clans... Anyone else wanna weigh in on this question? <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hm... looks like something to ask the authors at the next chat. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Besides, did Secrets of the Clans ever mention her pelt color? 72.81.208.205 15:07, 31 December 2008 (UTC) random quest


 * Moonflower is a long furred white she-cat with golden eyes. I nominate warrior, as she goes to the agthering in secrets of the clans. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  23:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Elders can go to gathering too though - think about Patchpelt and the other elders when Firestar first came to the old forest - they were at the gathering. I can try and find a refernce if you don't remember it <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 09:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Graystripe - for approval
My first try at a character art. i accept criticism and advice. -- Lightning 17:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

1. He has some white specks.

2. He has a blue line on the left side of the pic.

--<font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Woops, the line was a mistake on the part of Paint.net. I think i got the white specks.-- Lightning 18:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

The shading could be increased a bit, but those white flecks... gotta deal with those. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:39, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, the background has to be white. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, you solved the white flecks problem, but the background is still blue, and it looks like you took blurtool and ran it over everything. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

There is a bunch of little black lines......and the darker gray stripe needs to be bigger. His eyes should be more golden brown, too. User:Mallinois
 * Welcome to the project! Thanks you for giving this a go... Let's get things started: The outlines are blurred, and that needs to be fixed. The shading is also a bit small, and really needs to be amped-up and fully blended. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:40, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I always envisioned Graystripe as having a darker, slate grey stripe on his back. With this blank position, that would be a bit hard. I suggest a really dark gray on the back that fades into the normal pelt, blending the stripe with the shading. That would look really nice. Also, maybe add some highlights on the front forelegs. F  x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

The background is colored again. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 15:48, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with GB with the background being colored, but also he looks very fuzzy. Reminds me of one my earlier versions of Crowfeather when Kitsu said it looks as if you're looking at him through glass bottles or something.-- Shimmer Crystals 02:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Feathertail - For Approval
Alright, I fixed the pic. Kitsu, I buffed the shading a bit to make it look more 3-d. It is better now? (Sorry about the delay, I am working on Poppyfrost, my first tortie, and having trouble.) F  x  C  22:45, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

What happened to the ear and tail?--Redflare 22:48, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

The poor ear..the poor tail! What did you do to them? Any way, some more blended shading and it would look good. Fix the ear and tail. User:Mallinois  Coyote=background:Black>Coyote   The Doghouse  01:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. I am on my grandparents computer, so using Photobie. I fixed the lineart, at the expense of the transparent background. The background will be brought back as soon as I get back on my own laptop. F x  C  15:58, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The outline's gone really weird in places... If you have GIMP or Photoshop, I recomend just copying the black lineart out of a clean version of the blank, and then pasting it in over the top as it's own later ;) This is acctually a trick I use all the time to keep my lineart clean. Some shading on the head and underside would be nice. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Here s the new version. I pasted the blank and it looks great. As for the shading, I did a bit on the muzzle, as well as the right foreleg. I personally am proud of the improvements. :D Kitsu, does it need a bit more shading in the "tummy" area? I was debating on that. F x  C  15:25, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

The blue eyes look extremely cloudy and dark. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 15:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I will lighten them up a bit, but I always envisioned Silver and Feather as having mysterious, hazy blue eyes a bit like Heathertail. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

This looks pretty clase to approval, just alittle use of the lighten tool and it'll work. Good luck with Poppyfrost! Mallinois  The Doghouse  20:29, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Hazeltail - For Approval
The ear-pink is blended now, whaddya guys think? F x  C  22:45, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * More blending on the patches.User:Mallinois Nov. 23


 * I'm pretty pleased with the blending of the patches, with the exception of 3 places: Tail, right-foreleg, and between the eyes. But shading... Shading is needed. The ear-pink could do with being a touch softer, too. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to place this on hold (if it is possible) to focus on finalizing Feathertail. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Larchkit - For Approval
Hope you like it! Hawktail 00:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a nice start. But I am going to say something I say all the time: Blend. I also have to comment on the ear pink, as it's simply far too pink to look right. And... There's something weird about the tabby... I think it's the angle of the stripes, in addition to how un-integrated with the pelt they are. And the fact that they're conspicuously absent from places they should be (forehead, tail, left foreleg, cheeks). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Blend. Shade. Draw in pupils. Plus, where did the light Brown Belly come from? Coyote=background:Black>Coyote  The Doghouse  21:46, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I dont have time to fix it right now, but there are pupils, look closer Hawktail 23:59, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Foxpaw for Approval
I'm amazed that there wasn't another one started while I was gone. Here's also an updated Foxpaw image as well.-- Shimmer Crystals 03:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

The outline is really blurry in places, and the ear should be more blended into the pelt. Bright pink ears look unnatural. Koda

The shading is too light, and isn't really buffed out like it should be. But this looks pretty good. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I added the line art back in the places it was needed.-- Shimmer Crytals 01:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Cool. I did Icepaw, just to partner up with your Foxpaw. A little tweak with the darken tool on the shading. Mallinois  The Doghouse  20:30, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Brackenfur for Approval


I also made a few edits to Brackenfur before I reuploaded him. Comment please cause I think he needs more work, but I can't think of what.-- Shimmer Crytals 03:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC) <BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR>

I think this looks good Shimmerpool. I can't think of anything right now that needs doing except maybe the shading could be blended slightly more along his chest fur. Apart from thst I think this looks great!-- Sandy 19:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

This needs shading, of course. Also, the tabby markings need to be blended better. A pretty good start, but of course, it needs improvement. Also, there is a "swirl" in the lower leg area, if you see where the curve is, a little above that. You might want to put a tabby marking there.-- Jakko 123  21:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I would like to decline this submission at the moment. I want to finish up Crowfeather and Foxpaw for now. Once I'm done with them, I'll come back to work on him if I'm feeling up to it, which I probably won't cause of midterms.-- Shimmer Crytals 22:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Rainwhisker - For Approval
Sorry for the delay, I was on vacation. I added highlights to the old version, and blurred it the best i could. Improving it is up to all of you. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 05:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

He looks like he's... glowing. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 05:14, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I think the pale highlights need blending in a bit more. And possibly the ear needs more blending too-- Sandy 15:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC) <BR><BR>

The ear, actually, is blended perfectly I think. Bramble, this looks great and I'm sure it will be approved. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, FxC! Sandy, I've already blended the highlights as far as they can go. The blur tool won't blur it together anymore. We'll see what Kitsu thinks of them, and maybe I can just take them off. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 23:32, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I love the image of Rainwhisker! But I think that the highlights could be removed or atleast put on running down his back and one on his chest fur. Are you sure thats as far as it can be blend? Overall, lets leave it to Kitsu-- Shimmer Crytals 01:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Bramble really it's too blue and unatural. I suggest adding a more grayish color. Please.--Redflare 15:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thistleclaw - For Approval
Nobody seems to talk about him very much. I felt bad for Thistle, so i thought I'd color him. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 05:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I love this image - great job-- Sandy 15:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy! -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I only see a few spots that might need improvement. The spot around the ear is an unnatural circle, as well as the line that defines the light grey from the dark grey on the left foreleg. Maybe the shading could be amped up a bit. And some highlights on the forelegs would be nice. Otherwise, this is beautiful, Bramble. F x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll see about the highlights and amping the shading, but I don't know what you mean about an unnatural circle. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 23:36, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I think FxC means the ear's ending has an unnatural curve...--<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Woof! DoggieDish 17:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow. O.O --Mumble785 14:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Robinwing - For Approval
Here's my go at Robinwing. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 05:38, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

You can just barely see the shading, it needs to be more prominent(if that's the right word) XD. And if you look closely, you can see some white highlight on the lineart, right on the head. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll get on it soon. And I found the highlight! XD <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 17:21, 30 November 200Th

There needs to be a lot of shading here. Also, there is no pupil in the eye. The ear pink needs to be made more into the picture too.-- Jakko 123  21:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 18:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I can't see any shading at all here, and you need to blend in your ear pink, and make it a brownish pink. Use images such as squirrelflight for example. --Mumble785 22:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll work on the shading, and I'll blend the ear. Although, I wouldn't really say it needs to be brown-pink. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:22,

11 January 2009 (UTC)

No, not brownish-pink, just maybe paler :) <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful, I really love the color on this one. It needs more shading though, alot. It still looks 2-D Kaboo08 20:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 21:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Much better. It could use a little bleinding on the shadings edges, and maybe some shading on the hindquarter part where it goes up into the body. However, much improved! Good job! Flamefeather 21:34, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Why Bother?
Can't you take images from the books (such as the field guides) with the more major characters?

I think that would be breaking copyright law, and we don't want to do that. Also remember to sign with 4 tildes (~). ZT 12:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

There is more satisfaction in creating the images yourself. Plus, they will be more consistent this way-- Sandy 14:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Mostly, it would be the copyright part. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 15:18, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Hollykit - For Approval


I've coloured Hollykit from the New Prophecy series. My first kit, please comment-- Sandy 14:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

The eyes look... unnatural. And the pink color for the ears and nose looks extremely bright- I can barely see it compared to the pelt. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 15:22, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

GB, you're saying that because the ears and nose are extremely bright you can barely see it compared to the pelt? That doesn't make any sense. But I do agree about the eyes. They look too shadowy. Maybe if you made a sharp define from the pupil and the colored iris it would look better, Sandy. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 16:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've tried to do something with the eyes but I didn't understand the comment about the pink ears and nose...-- Sandy 18:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Um, the eyes still look kinda weird. Could you put the pupils in the same positions on either side? I think that would help Hawktail 23:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Better?-- Sandy 20:12, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

The eyes look great. Now just a touch more of some shading and I think Kitsu will love it C: F  x  C  23:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I added some more shading. I'm not sure which version I like better though. This one or the old one. What do u guys think?? Is this an improvement or should I work again on the previous image?-- Sandy 18:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Sandy, this looks beautiful! We should just leave this to Kitsu. F x  C  14:26, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks FxC. I'll just leave it as it is then :)-- Sandy 20:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

This looks really nice. Perfect blending, shading, and the eyes DON'T look wierd anymore. I hope it gets accepted. -- Mallinois  The Doghouse  21:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

My computer
I can't edit any of my images right now. My computer with GIMP is down, but I'll work on them ASAP. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 03:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Approval
Can i be apart of the project charart, so I can make fursona's? Thornclaw  talk!  03:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

This may sound stupid but...what's a fursona?-- Sandy 07:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Fursonas are different than what Charart designs; fursonas are for personal userpage use, whereas Charart designs pixels and pixel blanks (I think). Fursonas are designed by a user for another user, while the pixels are designed by a user for an article, and fursonas that have been created for a userpage should not be used on an article.–– Σulãlíã 459 678 20:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay thanks Eu-- Sandy 16:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Lionblaze-For approval


My next attempt at Lionblaze, blended and shaded. What do you think? -- Mallinois  The Doghouse  01:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I like the other Lionblaze you made better. -- Alice 02:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you need to combine aspects of the two. The body markings from v1 and the tail markings from v2 with the tabby 'm' added too. Also - you had the right idea with the shading on the first one. What I normally do is use the 'darken' tool on a low opacity in appropriate places and blend, then the lighten tool to add highlights. You need to combine the shading of both images without losing the clear cut outline. (ie don't blend the outline) I think that with a bit more work this could be a good image :) It sounds like hard work now, but it could look great! -- Sandy 16:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Also - the ear pink needs blending in to the pelt, as does the white tipped tail (if you're determined to keep it - i'm staying impartial on that debate!!) I personally like what you've done with the eye though-- Sandy 16:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * New version up. Feel free to comment.--<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Blue">The Doghouse  19:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * If I remember correctly, Lionblaze doesn't have a white tiped tail. The shading near his hind leg and front leg seems really dark to go with his pelt too.-- Shimmer Crytals 22:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I tried to fix him...again. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  02:18, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Better, but he still has that white tipped tail.-- Shimmer Crystals 05:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I like the white-tipped tail, as it is used in CotC(page 28). I used CotC to see what he looked like, as I couldn't get a good enough picture of him in my mind. I am playing FireRed(Pokemon) right now, and my grandparents computer doesn't have A program for imaging, so I can't update right now. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I updated again. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed - the shading on the hind legs has entered the background near the belly - it's all gray-- Sandy Leader's Den  19:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I redid the background(made it white) and added a darker tabby M. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I updated for no apparent reason, just thought about seeing how the tabby markings would blend into the pelt and the shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The tabby markings are so hard against his pelt. They look so unnatural that they stick out completely. I liked the last version better.-- Shimmer Crystals 01:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The reason I redid it was because I thought thew tabby markings were so pale... I'll lighten them up. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  23:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. They're still dark==, but that's because when I lightened them they turned yellowish. I blended full time and smudged a bit. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  14:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I updated with thin tabby markings. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 21:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Whitethroat - For Approval


Okay, I got bored seeing as I currently have nothing else to do on my other images at the moment and decided to colour Whitethroat. Please comment appropriately. -- Sandy 17:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I think you pretty much have this done, except for the paint-like swirlyness. Try blurring full-time. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  22:25, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Better?-- Sandy 16:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Preety Good. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mallinois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">The Doghouse  23:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Whitethroat also haas white paws -- random guest

Okay, I'll work on that when I have time-- Sandy Leader's Den  10:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

This looks really good. The blending is beautiful, and the shading is great too.-- Jakko 123  15:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I added his paws - thanks for reminding me, I forgot they were white too. Anything else need changing?-- Sandy Leader's Den  12:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

If I could accept it, I sure would! I don't think anything needs to be changed! But that's my opinion. --Mumble785 19:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Mumble :)-- Sandy Leader's Den  20:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Mumble, that's not true. There's still a lot it needs. Sandy, the shade of black you picked is really dark, and it makes it hard to see the eyes. Also, the back paws are still black. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 22:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I lightened the colour and coloured the bcak paws white. I've also added some darker shading along the back and in the other usual places now this is visible.-- Sandy  Leader's Den  12:26, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Better... *nods head and gives two thumbs up* --Mumble785 18:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

RavenPaw for Approval
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa251/cathy08_09/RavenPaw.jpg

What do you think? I wanna help with the project, too. (if that's ok...) --Mumble785 01:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)Mumble785


 * Welcome to Charart Mumble :) I see this is your first try out. Now let's begin. Ravenpaw is, yes a black cat, but you could make him a bit lighter so you could add shading. Once done with that, add your shading and blend away. Good luck ;) May I suggest when getting the lineart, save it to your computer. That makes it easier instead of having to upload it to photobucket time after time again. Also I advise to use Photoshop or Gimp when doing these.-- Shimmer Crystals 05:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

This has a lot of unneeded color blotches, and something looks wrong w/ the eyes... Other than that, you need to shade and really amp up the blending on the white-tipped tail and the chest(which by the way has a white dash, not white splotch.) And the image needs to lighten up, too. Sorry if I sound harsh, but this is really what is wrong with the image. What image editor did you use? --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:32, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok.I'll work on it some more using your tips. ;) Thanks!--Mumble785 14:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

P.S. What program do the other people use, where do they get it, and does it cost anything? Currently, I'm using paint. *blushes from embarrasment* (I know I spelled embarrasment wrong.)--Mumble785 14:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Paint? *Shivers* That's a problem. Most people use GIMP. I color my images with paint, and edit them with GIMP. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="White" style="background:Black">39 17:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I'll check GIMP out then, and trade google sketchup for it. THEN I'll work on ravenpaw some more.--Mumble785 18:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Any other programs besides GIMP that will work for this? Dad won't let me download it. :( --Mumble785 23:39, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm putting ravenpaw on hold. I have the program I need now, but I would like to concentrate on fireheart, and regaining my cool after that last coment on my kittypet blanks. --Mumble785 23:26, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Deputy Blanks - For Approval
We are in desperate need of pixel blanks, so I thought I'd contribute this sketch of a deputy. Yes, this is my own original drawing. Hope you like it! F x  C  14:30, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

For a minute I thought these would be good queen blanks... --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  16:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Good, put do you think you think youcan thicken the linesRedflare 21:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

There needs to be a male shorthaired, a male longhaired, a female shorthaired, and a female longhaired. -- random guest

Yes, I know, random guest. This is my first post, and if people like it I will then post female shorthair, female longhair, and male longhair. F x  C  13:34, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

"Random Guest" is am IP address. I think the blanks look good, just need to thicken the outline and fix the further ear. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  13:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Mallinois. --Mumble785 23:42, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Very realistic. One of the best I've seen. The further hind leg could be shorter, and the further ear needs a little work. Great Job!!! Flamefeather 14:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Fireheart for Approval


I know, he needs improvements. I can't get GIMP, but I'll try my best on paint and soon I might get a photo editor. Now, I need some advice!!! --Mumble785 01:40, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

First off, it is Fireheart, not FireHeart. There is barely any shading, but where there is it isn't blended. The color could be more of an orange, it looks reddish to me. A good start, just needs improvement.-- Jakko 123  02:23, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I'll use your advice to improve it, since I know have a program that has the "blend" tool. ;) I'll get him reuploaded and improved in no time. --Mumble785 22:38, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Ok, so I added more shading, blended the shading, made him more orange than red, spent more time on the eye and added the ear pink becase I felt like it. Is that better? --Mumble785 23:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

It needs much more shading, and hightlights need to be added. Ginger is the same as pale red tabby, so you need tabby stripes and more of a "flame colored" pelt. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  01:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, two questions: 1.) Are the blended stripes gonna be horizontal or vertical? 2.) Where are the places I missed with shading? --Mumble785 01:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't actually think it needs more shading. Maybe down the belly wold be nice. When we mean blended, we mean make it go nice into the orange color. There should be more of a faded boundary then a thick, straight boundary.-- Jakko 123  15:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

kk. I'll add a teensy bit more shading down the belly, and maybe a little on the hind leg wouldn't hurt... --Mumble785 18:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I added and improved my shading on the chest, belly, and legs. Is that better? --Mumble785 18:40, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I saw that you couldn't get GIMP and sometimes I don't use it when my computer is very slow. Try pixlr.com, its like an online photoshop. I use it a lot and it actually works rather well. You can upload this image using the url on there so u can edit it, then you can save it. It has all the same effects as photoshop and GIMP. If you need help using it leave a message on my talk page. And with the image, it needs shading on the back and its sorta fuzzy. Did you save it as JPG? Try PNG file type. It works a lot better :) -- Shimmer Crystals 02:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

There needs to be more shading on the back, head and muzzle. A tinge of "Fire-color" needs to be added. This color is too orange, it needs to be more reddish orange. And there are a lot of unneeded color blotches...it looks too pixelish now. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  15:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, the eye looks a little wierd. I don't really know what's happened to it...--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 14:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The eye has that creept zombie thing going on..., so try what I do. Color in the middle four spaces the color of the eye. Than color the top right white, and the top left black. Works like a charm.(By the way, cool sig Sandy) --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  14:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I'll work on it! --Mumble785 18:16, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

REUPLOADED once again. I redid the whole image using paint and pixlr. I love that program now! Ok, a improved and added shading, added highlights to the back, made him more reddish, and did the eye using Malinois's method. What do you think? --Mumble785 16:37, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Much better but could use some shading on the back.-- Shimmer Crystals 05:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

kk. I'm on it! --Mumble785 17:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Added a teensy bit of shading on the back above the highlights. --Mumble785 17:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Add the tabby "m" and tabby stripes. For reference, use Dustpelt and Squirrelflight's pics. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I have a small doubt and a good feeling about him now. I made him simalar to Squirrelflight. You like? --Mumble785 23:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

A bit better, but I think the tabby markings stick out too much. Well not think, I'm positive. They seem bright against his pelt. Also some of the shading seems closer to the black outline. I'm not sure if this is my computer or something.-- Shimmer Crystals 01:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I'll make the tabby markings blend into his coat more. --Mumble785 23:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Is that good, or did I over-do it? --Mumble785 23:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Better, but it looks a bit blurry behind his ear in the back.-- Shimmer Crystals 00:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you outlined the whole image. Did you smudge out the outline for shading? --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  16:15, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I sharpened behind the ear, and no I didn't smudge the outline. --Mumble785 21:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Applekit - For Approval


Okay, I know there are a lot of images up for approval right now, but I got bored waiting for progress on the ones I already have up and so I started work on some others. Well, here's Applekit (sc)-- Sandy Leader's Den  17:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

It's adowable!!!!!!! One thing I say though is that it needs to be darker, as Applekit is dark ginger. Other than that, it's cute(Mallinois like cute :) --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  19:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Better now? --<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 15:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[And thanks Mallinois :)]--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 15:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Much better. She looks like a wittle apple! I guess thatr's why they named her Applekit. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  16:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Pouncetail - For Approval


Again, a product of my boredom in the christmas holidays! Plesae comment as you see fit-- Sandy Leader's Den  17:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I think you need more shading, or you need to make it darker. --Mumble785 17:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I've finally gotten around to working on this again :) Sorry for the delay. Is this any better? <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Scourge?
I've been wondering...I really want to make an image of Scourge, but would we have to wait for a loner template? Well he really isn't a loner, but maybe a rouge, but was Leader of BloodClan so would he be leader? Its very confusing and I'm wondering what others think?-- Shimmer Crystals 20:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, since BloodClan isn't really a real clan, I would wait for a Rouge template.--Mumble785 15:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Do we even need rogue/Loner and Kittypet blanks? --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  18:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I think that you do need them. Smudge, Sasha, Purdy, and all the others deserve their pixels. And what about the Tribe? Do you thionk you guys should do pixels for each position, or just one called Tribe cat? 72.81.208.205 23:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)random quest

Just a tribe cat is what I think. But down in the tribe of rushing water article below, the different positions are just called a different thing. The to-bes are apprentices, etc. --Mumble785 17:36, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

The Tribe of Rushing Water
Should there be a blank for each indivisual position, such as a Prey-hunter or a Kit-mother, or should there just be one blank to be used for every single tribe cat? And should Stormfur be considered a Cave-guard or a Prey-hunter? 72.81.208.205 23:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC) Random Quest

Okay, you stopped signing random guest! No, I don't think we need them because (1).Cave-Guards are just like warriors, as like prey-hunters. (2). Kit-mothers and kits are like queens and kits, so we just need a queen blank (3).Healers would probably use a medicine cat blank, as they are more of a medicine cat (4). To-Bes are just like apprentices --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  17:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, but remember when the tribe is first introduced? They look different than Clan cats. Their fur is more matted from the mud the rub in their fur. They're smaller than Clan cats, as well, with larger leg muscles to aid catching their prey, hawks and eagles.–– Σulãlíã 459 678 21:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

As is Skyclan, but we didn't make specific blanks for them. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  00:08, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Well actually SkyClan could use the same templates since they are apart of the original 5 Clans, but just aren't around anymore you know. They still have a leader, deputy, apprentices, queens, medicine cat, and medicine cat apprentice too. The only thing different about them is that they have strong limbs which is well their trademark if you will say. WindClan are swift, RiverClan can swim, ThunderClan loyal and great hunters, ShadowClan mysterious I guess you could say. Now for the tribe I say yes because Teller of Pointed Stones does change over time and will always receive that name and they are leader and medicine cat combined. So that throws out just using a medince cat template even if they are healer and can hear their warrior ancestors. Like Eu said they are smaller with larger leg muscles as well making them totally different. So I strongly agree they need a template along with loners, rouges, and kittypets.-- Shimmer Crystals 05:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I'm actually working on a blank for prey-hunters. F x  C  13:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Clovertail for Approval
A piece of artwok that I am throwing at you because I got bored, once again. I need advice! --Mumble785 17:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

You're adding a highlight down the back, instead of shading. As I have said, use Gorse's Weaselfur as a model for shading. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  21:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

You can add a highlight too, but I think you need a thicker band of shading behind it before the highlight--<font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 16:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Is that better? --Mumble785 00:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I can see that the outline's blended. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 23:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Queen Blanks For approval


Kittypet blanks don't work, obviously. So I tryed a queen. this is a short haired female. i will get a long hair female eventually. --Mumble785 18:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

As I said on the kittypet blank, the muzzle is too large, and there should be a larger drop from the forehead to the muzzle. 72.81.208.205 18:38, 2 January 2009 (UTC) Random Quest

Right now, I'm looking at an Akita(Huge Japenese dog) --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  21:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

I know what an akita is, i will fix the muzzle, and how can i make it look less like a dog? --Mumble785 23:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

The head-try to make it squareish(Is that a word? :P) --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  22:09, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I made the snout shorter. is that better? --Mumble785 23:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Make it a tiny bit smaller. Also, the front legs are bugging me. Try and straighten them. It will look better then. 72.81.208.205 00:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)Random Guest

ok. --Mumble785 23:08, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I made it smaller and straightened the front legs. --Mumble785 23:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

It still doesn't really look right...I think it may be the transition from the neck to head - it needs to be smoother. Also - the legs look unatural still. They're quite...short for a start and they look very flimsy, as if they're about to collapse. <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:43, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

try making edges round, but not TOO round. Remember, cats have very small necks, small muzzels and long legs. Ps. Love Akitas (says as black Akita sets head on my lap, asking to be petted, lol.) Kaboo08 Flamefeather

Mosskit - For Approval
Here's my go at Mosskit (Bluestar's dead kit). The gender isn't really specified but I went with female. F x  C  15:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean male. Anyway, Mosskit is Blue-gray in Secrets of the Clans, and when he sees Snowfur for the first time it says he has green eyes. --72.34.4.6 17:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

No, she meant female. That wouldn't likely be a typo. FxC, I think Mosskit is supposed to be male. The only time it calls him female is in Cats of the Clans. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

On page 78 of SotC, it says: Mosskit hesitated, looking up at me with wide green eyes. "But what about my mother." --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  19:04, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Mallinois, could you please give a reference for that? GB, it was a typo. I meant male. And anyway, could you please comment on the actual artwork? F x  C  23:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

It could use a bit more blending, and The eyes make it look...Wise and old. --<font color="Silver" style="background:Blue">Mal <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">lin ois  23:18, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

More blending of the shading is needed - also, the background needs to be transparent. <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 15:05, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Gorsepaw-For Approval
I really wante to do a ginger and white cat like Brightheart, so I did Gorsepaw, the only other cat availible. Comments needed. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 23:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I like that the picture is not cloudy. It's a little to shiny to me though and the shadow under the chin looks a little out of place. I never liked this outline for the apprentices, the tail for the short haired cats looks dead and I don't like the idea of having a completely different style from the warriors. I think the apprentices should look more like younger versions of the warrior pixels. Good coloring though and I like the eyes. Perhaps you could make the white fur more of a creamy and warm color.--Thornpath 00:18, 20 January 2009 (UTC)Thornpath

The fur is white, so I can't modify that, but I'll blend the neck shading if I need to. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 23:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Can I join to draw???




I'm really good w/ paint; and I can also do real drawing of cats if those are acceptable. I can show you examples..... Give me a small while

Kaboo08 17:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)Flamefeather

Update: Wikia doesn't like my file type. GRRR!!!! Will think of something.

Kaboo08 18:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)Flamefeather

Why don't you try changing the file format? Most computers have this little arrow under the name of the file. If you just select GIF or PNG, the wiki should like it. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 13:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! It works! Kaboo08 19:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

I highly doubt these will be accepted. You didn't use the blanks at all, and these aren't the kind of pics you would see in an encyclpedia. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 19:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, these are just to show my abilities, thier examples. Maybe I can work on the real ones, I would really love to. Look below, I tried Dawnpaw as an apprentice blank. I accept constructive critism. Kaboo08 20:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

Miscellaneous

 * I have a couple things to say. First off, if anyone wants to contact Kitsu, you can at her RP (cosc.kitsufox.com). Also, this page is getting overloaded with new cats. Mallinois and Mumble (not trying to be mean but...) I wouldn't make another picture and just improve other ones. Thanks-- Jakko 123  21:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * No. People should not be using my RP to contact me with information about this Wiki. I'm going to be going through an looking at things soon (I've been busy with other responsibilities), and talking to Eu about some suggestions for additional people to help guide the project. Under no circumstances should I be getting queries about this play anywhere but my talk page. But Jakko is RIGHT. Limit yourselves to a single pixel posted at a time, PLEASE. At least until I get time to do some setup and streamlining of the process here. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 19:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Swiftpaw for Approval


I made Swiftpaw of ThunderClan. Questions are encouraged. ZZ Top <font color="LimeGreen">Get Your Wings  This House Is On Fire  23:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I've got one. Did you use paint? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:52, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes I did. ZZ Top <font color="LimeGreen">Get Your Wings  This House Is On Fire  00:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

This image needs some shading and highlighting, ZZ Top. Also, maybe the eye colour should be changed to make it more noticable - at the moment I can't even tell what colour his eyes are, all I can see is the white speck. The ears need the tiny pink bit put in as well. look at some of the approved images - possibly Nightcloud (or Rockpaw) seeing as she's black to see how this is supposed to look for a black cat. <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 08:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Try using a very dark gray. It's hard to shade with true black. If you want to blend, try using pixlr.com. It has blurtool. Shim told Mumble to use this, and his images look okay. -- Mal lin <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">ois <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">13 13:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Yup its true pixlr works fine. Also..how are you saving this image? It looks like your saving it gif or jpg then reuploading it by paint making the shading all well weird. And yes it is a bit hard to shade with true black so try something a bit darker to my Crowfeather image. After all, Crowfeather is a cat close to black but not true black at all.-- Shimmer Crystals 02:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
A lot of you have probably seen this coming, given my inactivity. I first joined as leader of this project around two years ago, and it has changed a lot since then. Frankly, I've found it too time-consuming of late to be fully active in this project for some time, not to mention I have many other obligations in my life that, unfortunately, are much higher on my priority list. So, for the Wiki's sake and for mine, I will be stepping down and would like to request that the question of my successor be left to Eu and Kitsu. I apologize for taking so long on this. I wish the Wiki good luck in its attempt to add as accurate and professional information as possible. Gorse 20:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I think Kitsu should take over. She's really good with the art. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 21:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

We need someone with a knack for computer art, and an iron fist. Someone who isn't afraid to say what's really wrong with the picture. (Basiclly screams Kitsu!)-- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 22:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree but like Kitsu said earlier we are going to need more people to help lead this project. Those who tend to stay active a lot so this place won't crowd up like how it is now. Its getting ridiculously long. Please can we just not have any more submitted until Kitsu returns?-- Shimmer Crystals 02:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Dawnpaw-for approval




I tried my first one. I did Dawnpaw, coloring on paint and then blurring on pixlr.com. It worked, I think she turned out good! Give me constructive critism, I can improve her! Kaboo08 20:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

I can see you worked up the outline. The eye looks wierd, and I just want to say good blending. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 20:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to fixing the eye real soon. Thanks Kaboo08 20:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

Got a new eye version up Kaboo08 20:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC) Flamefeather

You know, you could just change the inage. This is my Dawnpaw. I stopped doing it because I had other pics. Try using it for reference. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 20:51, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

My computer won't take me to the page to see your Dawnpaw. Any idea why??? Flamefeather 14:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

It's because the page no longer exists since Mallinois deleted the image. (I think anyway - it's a redlink now) I think the first eye looked better than the second - the second one looks too...big, and out of position. Try keeping the eye outline balck and coloring the center. The shading is fairly good although I would suggest blending the highlighting on the back in more. Also - the ear pink needs a tad bit more blending to make it look more natural <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Leader's Den 19:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Opps! The second drawing is listed first. I'll delete the my first attempt and work on shading. Flamefeather 21:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Spiderleg-for approval
User: Darkhallows I was bored, so I decided to do some art.

The coding was wrong. I fixed it. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 23:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

The image is blotchy, there's no shading, and it has blotches of white. The brown belly needs blending into the pelt. The eye also looks wierd. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 23:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I worked with it, is it better? user: Darkhallows


 * The brown belly is perfect, but the ears look unatural almost white? Make them a different pink but blur them because how black cats' ears are. Look at a few pictures for reference.-- Shimmer Crystals 02:56, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Fallen Leaves-for approval


I did him as a warrior. My first multicolor. Needs some work, but I'm not sure where to start. Flamefeather 18:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

He's a Sharpclaw, I don't know if you should use the warrior blank, but it look like you smudged the whole image, and PLEASE just fill in the eye like this: Four white pixels inside. Top lefT:black Top Right:White Bottom two:Blue, Green, Amber, Yellow, Orange, Gray, Pale...(ETC) -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 23:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I t also needs shading. -- Malli nois <font color="LimeGreen" style="background:Black">Himatsu's <font color="Cyan" style="background:Blue">Howl 23:10, 27 January 2009 (UTC)