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Morningflower-For Approval



 * My second, tortie, and my first elder. The elder blanks show up black for me, can someone fix that? I fixed up this one, though. Tell me what you think of it. -- Mlns tlk • C 14:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but i think you might need a little more ginger fur. She looks too dark, and I think it's because of the black. But, otherwise, it's good. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  19:55, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, the separation between the white and the black on the neck looks unnatural. Play around with the shape a bit more, or extend the white up into the face and make those common white-face markings. Other than that, and what Mumble just said, this is really good. -- Dawnfeather 02:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploded and changed the neck black to white and ginger connection. Better? --Mallinois Herding Talk 21:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It is better. I think the ear pink, although it is the right colour is slightly too big for her ear, especially as the fur is black. Sandy Talk! 18:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, though it may take a while to show up. --Mallinois Herding Talk 19:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that you should extend the white on the neck up onto the face, the way the is common amoung cats. also, the ginger patch on the front shoulder is an awkard shape. -- Dawnfeather 01:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The white is extended to her face, but it may take a while to show up... --Mallinois Herding Talk 14:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Instead of making an upward arch with the white into the face area, level with the eye, drop in down a bit and make it arch the other way. Also, extend the white that is on the face in a tendril up the nose. -- Dawnfeather 23:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree with Dawnfeather. Just make those changes and it should be ready, if it looks good. -- Bramble My Realm 16:12, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, but I like the old version better... --Mallinois Herding Talk 11:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I love this Mal! Sandy Talk! 11:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a gray lne on the muzzle. -- Dawnfeather 07:05, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't see a grey line... just shading. Are there any more comments otherwise this should be approved Sandy Talk! 13:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There's a chunk out of her head right before her ear that's bothering me. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 22:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

There is also a little black dot inside the muzzle. -- Dawnfeather 06:13, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I like this Mal. Sorry for not commenting before. The thing is, the head / upper body seems a little busy compared to the rest? Add another patch or two to the back.-- Darkhallows Lair 08:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, you might want to work on this again soon. It's been a while.-- Darkhallows Lair 07:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Loudbelly- for approval


I hope this is better than my Whitewing...Sandwich 989 04:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

He looks fine, but the outline is blurred in a few places, and he could use some highlights. To prevent this (in GIMP, at least) paste TWO images down on two layers, hit 'ctrl' + 'L' to bring up the layers menu, and click on the top layer. Then click on the wand tool and bring it to the white areas and click on delete. Then you have just the lines. Click on the bottom layer, and color that in... If that makes sense xD.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll fix the outlines. But what you said, does it mean I have to start all over? <font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i have the whole shading thing down, but the last thing i need to know is how to highlight.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

In the program I use (Photoshop), there's a dodge tool, and it looks like a small microphone. Just run that along the edge of the shading and it should produce a nice-looking highlight. -- Bramble My Realm 16:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

What program are you using? Oh, and I just noticed there's no head shading.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh dang i forgot head shading! I'll do it right away.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok heres my new one, im not sure if that light line is a highlight, but oh well. And Im not a huge fan of my head shading is ok, but you guys are the experts...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlight needs to be blurred some more, and the outline is still blurred in some places, most notably the back of the foreleg and the forehead. Also shrink the ear pink a little and make it a darker pink. Other than that, this is very good and I like the color you chose for his pelt. -- Bramble My Realm 15:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok heres the new one.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 20:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlights still nede to be blended into teh pelt colour a little more and the ear pink needs to be slightly smaller and blended also. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I knew something was wrong with the ear...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 14:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I lost the color I was using for the fur D:, but I blended in the highlight and rfixed the ear...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 16:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

This is nice. I think you need to thicken some of the shading though :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Increase the shading a little, and then fix that blurriness at the right corner of his eye, then I think he'll be ready. This is really good, Sandwich. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I (for sure) undid the blurriness around the eye. And (I think) intensified the shading.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 17:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Any further comments before approval in 24 hours? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(: Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  20:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The eye is very dark. Make it lighter and brighter. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 07:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. But im not on the computer with the gimp I have to do this on Sunday. So make the eye brighter and lighter(?) and it will be ready for approval? Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  01:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, make the edits and it should be good to go :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok I think I made they eye brighter and lighter.. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Apprentice? (Maybe)

 * Here?


 * <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 00:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This seems fine. But don't color the herbs (?). -- Darkhallows Lair 02:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be a good idea to color the herbs. Unless we don't mind the herbs in all the medicine cats' mouths to possibly different colors. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 03:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we should colour the herbs in the blanks. The outline of the herbs should be a bit thicker, and should extend a bit further up as if they were in the mouth, not under the chine! A bit of chin has to be consealed by the hearbs to do this. Just put it were you think that the mouth should be, only a few pixels higher. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No, don't colour the herbs; there are so mnay different types of leaves they could be carrying that we may as well leave it up to whoever colours the cat to decide what colour green they should be - it will add to the individuality of each pixel. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 11:17, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This blank can't be accepted, because you edited the apprentice blanks to make these. I'l either decline this, or you can start over from scratch. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 22:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

GB, we have permission to edit the blanks, and on the forum, 'Do we really need Medicine Cat Apprentice Blanks' we have basically decidec to edit the blanks to put herbs into their mouths and make them Med cats. That's what i did below. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 22:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No, we don't. Please see "A Little Misunderstanding...". <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

??? What did I miss? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

K, looks like we can use these after all. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 02:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

So, Misty, I think if you just thicken the leaves' outline and take out the color, it would look pretty good. -- Bramble My Realm 15:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, but It will take awhile, I'm not using the same computer. I think GB knows I have more than one. ;) <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

This? Oh, the last one didn't upload. -.- <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 02:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Take out the color, and make them a little less round, more like your original leaves. But I like the thickened lineart. -- Bramble My Realm 03:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Opps! I 4got 'bout the color, and I can't make them the way the first one is like. I 4got. -.- <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 22:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Just take the colour out and make the leaves more pointed; they don't have to be identical to your first ones just less rounded. Also, you nede to do the other blank so that it is the same as the three. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

ie. you need to do the longhaired tom Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Ugg. The tom got deleted. -_- But will do Sandy! <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 21:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

These haven't been worked on in a week. Please work on them now or they will be declined.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 06:25, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

OMG, I forgot! I'll have them in by tomorrow! <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 12:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Can you guys not decilne it yet? I don't get a lot of computer time anymore... <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 21:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Bumblekit for Approval
I'm finally back! Well I see Bumblekit was taken down like I expected. So here we have Bumblekit up again. No highlights this round (i despise them on kits)just different sets of shading. I looked at some of the other kits for reference.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 22:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back, Bumblekit! I'd say he looks pretty good, but your shading confuses me. Where is the light source coming from? --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading style looks fine to me as it's what is used on a lot of approved kits. I just think it needs to be darker and slightly bigger on the forelegs. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well here we are. Finally got me some more free time. I made the shading darker and long on the legs.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Now you need to blend it into the pelt a lot more to get a natural transition and perhaps make it smaller on the neck Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Updated-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 23:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, he sort of looks like he's wearing a hood with earholes because the shading's a bit large. :) Maybe decrease the shading a little around his head, and on his right side the shading under his chin looks a bit large. Also shade his ears a little. He looks cute otherwise. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading on (our) right side seems short. Bring it out so it fill that entire area behind the leg. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Updated-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 00:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (medicine cat-for approval

 * [[File:Cinderpelt (medicine cat).PNG]]


 * If there is anything wrong, please tell me. I want this picture to be perfect. My first medicine cat with the new blanks. In my opinion, Cinderpelt wouldn't look all that great if she was in a thin, slender looking medicine cat blank. The warrior blank suits her because she was supposed to be one... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 11:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

She's too dark, as she is only specified as a gray she cat with blue eyes, and fluffy i think too. She is also a tabby. I agree that she has to be perfect, as I am also a great fan of her! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In the allegiances, it says: Cinderpelt-dark gray she-cat. So she is dark gray, and she's not a tabby, but many times in the books, she has been mentioned with enormous blue-colored eyes. Anything else? (And can someone cite tabby markings if she has any?) Plus, she's long-haired, so that takes care of the fluffy. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 13:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

On her actual page, it says that she is a gray tabby. I still don't think she should be so dark though. The ear colour is too bright. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I think she should be a bit lighter and should have tabby stripes as she is supposed to look like Cinderheart who is the reincarnation of her and is a tabby. As for the rest; more blending of the shading to make the colour transitions smoother. Also make the ear pink smaller  Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In most of the allegiances she has been in, she's dark gray. If she has tabby markings, someone please provide a direct citation from the books, page number and volume. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk

Wasn't she identical to Cinderheart?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Apologies Mal; I looked for a few references last night and the only descriptions of her within the books were of a grey she-cat. She is said to ahve 'smoky grey fur' on page 65 of the paperback edition of Forest of Secrets. You need to make her a little lighter as she looks almost black here and the shading needs blending. No tabby stripes; that should be removed from her page Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, it's fine. I lightend her and changed the ear pink. It may take a while to show up, though. I tried to keep her dark, but not too dark like my last one. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 14:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Her colour is better but the ear pink needs to be smaller still as it is kind of almost coming out of her ear at the moment. Also, the shading needs to be blended more still. Try just pulling it towards the middle of the image a bit more with the blur tool. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, but It may be a while before it shows. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 15:08, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

She looks pretty good! I like how you did her twisted leg! If you read what my comment originally said, don't worry about lightening her any more. Things at the top of my screen are darker than when they're on the bottom. She looks fine at the bottom of the screen. :) Okay, I'm done rambling. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:26, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that she still needs to be lighter, but it may just be that it's not showing up yet. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I think this looks great, but it might hep to make it a little lighter. Cause on my computer it looks like almost black.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 18:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you see her as dark, try standing up if you can't see some stuff. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Navy">Timberwolves 22:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

To me her colour looks fine (but I've learned not to trust my computer...). She needs a bit more shading on her near foreleg and neck though Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 06:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed on points above, and also decrease her ear pink a little bit, as it's overlapping the ear a little. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Anything else? (Can't work on it right now, but I'll get to it tommorrow or the next day....) --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 21:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I've always imagined one of her back legs as being twisted, and her leg looks wierd at a perfect right angle... Other than that, great image! -- MU MB LE 785  00:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Echosong - For Approval
This is my second character art, and I'm rather pleased with it. I know that some of the outlines are rather blurry, but is there anything else?

The ear pink needs blending and it needs to be neatened up as some of the areas are very blurry, even inside the lineart Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC) [edited 12th: didn't mean to write in caps]

What Sandy said, and please sign with four ~s.<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 18:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I think she needs a bit more shading, and there is a lot of blurring outside the line art which needs to be fixed. The eye colour is hard to see. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 11:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! I am in love with those tabby markings! They're so soft. *tries to reach and touch one* The only problem I see is that there is coloring/shading outside the lineart. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:18, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Who made it? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Mistyfur, I think it's Smokeberry's Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy! Yeah, there's to much color out of the lines. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 17:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a lot of smudging outside of the line art. You need to fix that.Minnowclaw 23:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Blend the ear pink and maybe darken it a shade. ;]--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, also try adding some dimension to the nerbs by using different shades of green and take a look at the hing leg tabby markings as a couple of them are very dark Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

If this isn't worked on within the next day it'll ahve to be declined Smokeberry as it hasn't been touched for ten days. Sda really as it's really beautiful Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Yellowfang- for approval
I didn't flatten her face because it looked RIDICULUS when I tried. But here she is.-- Darkhallows Lair 21:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Her look red Dark Hollows. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 21:58, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

?? She looks red?...-- Darkhallows Lair 22:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

The eyes do. Also, the bottom part of the herbs are almost black! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:18, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I love the texture! She looks so pretty! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Opps, forgot to type 'eyes'. And, the herbs are really black. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:53, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Lightened eye and herbs.-- Darkhallows Lair 04:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Use the lighten tool on the top part of the herbs so it looks like the sun is hitting them, such as the shadows hit them on the bottom. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 15:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Done.-- Darkhallows Lair 20:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The three lighted parts sort of look like she's being hit with three spotlights. Could you darken them a tad and then blend them some more? Other than that she looks exactly how I pictured her to look. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Better?--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 08:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It still looks like what it did before... -_- <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 20:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Um no. It doesn't :/. Click on the image and see the past uploads.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I mean, it looks like the (as I think Bramble said =/\.) that is still kinda has spotlights? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 01:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Does she look any better? --<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 06:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I think she looks fine. The highlights are definitely blended better, and less bright. Does anyone else have anything? -- Bramble My Realm 21:17, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me! <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 12:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

She looks kinda blackish instead of dark gray--<font color="HotPink" style="background:Cyan">Paramore Freak <font color="Cyan" style="background:HotPink">Nightgaze 00:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Dodged over her a few times.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 08:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice work Darkhallows! Anything else before approval in 24? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Patchfoot - For Approval


I wish Patchfoot would've had a bigger role in Firestar's Quest, I think I could've grown to like him. I hope I did the patches okay, I didn't use a reference on him. I should try something other than warriors...I will after I get Brindleface posted. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT1 Un-squared patch on upper foreleg. haha now it looks like Scooby-Doo's leg. And blurred head patch. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT2 Blurred Scooby-Doo patch. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 00:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT3 I smoothed out the black on the head, but it's not showing up. :( Let me play with it a bit... <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud  22:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is really good! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

♠ Dawnfeather :D Thank you! I don't see what's so great about it, but if you see something I guess I'm glad! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 04:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * One of the patches is sort of... square. -- Darkhallows Lair 04:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

This is really good. The patch on the head needs neatening up a bit though as the edges are really smudgy. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

♠ Darkhallows Acknowledged. ♠ Sandy Thanks! I smudged the patches then went over them with the blur tool, I must have missed the head. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Mrrow? Anything else I need to work on? <span style="font-family:Slayer; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 01:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - That black patch on his shoulder....it looks less blurred than the other patches. Try blurring it just a teensy bit more. But this looks aweome! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

♠ Mosswisker I blurred the patch! Thanks for pointing that out. I guess when I rounded it out I forgot to re-blur it. :D <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 02:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello? Anyone there? Does this need more help? <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Extend the black patch on the head a little along the muzzle so it looks less squared. That's about it. Great job! -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

► Bramble I'm surprised this hasn't been taken down from lack of work! Will do, Bramble! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 21:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I normally give about a week before it's taken down. No need to worry. :) -- Bramble My Realm 22:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

teh shoulder and back patches aern't blurred as much as the rest. -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 10:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Mousefur-for approval
I have NO clue how or why this was deleted. My internet was down and I couldn't get on to fix it. Can I please keep working on it?! Minnowclaw 23:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It was probably deleted because it hadn't been worked on in a certain amount of time. :) I think she looks good, except she needs more shading. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 00:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Can I still work on it? If so, where should I put more shading?Minnowclaw 02:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Of course you can still work on her - she was taken down due to lack of work but nobody knew it was because you couldn't get onto the computer. If that ever happens feel free to resubmit as you have done here. As for the image itself: More shading could be put on the head and it all needs to be a bit bigger if you ask me. Blend all your shading and perhaps change the ear colour as it's kind of purplish. You could also try a highlight on the back to add dimension by using the lighten tool. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Which one do you think is better? Minnowclaw 22:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * The first one looks better because the second one with the highlight doesn't match the fur color at all. If that's a highlight anyway. It looks sort of brownish-pinkish.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 23:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

K anything else?Minnowclaw 23:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

She's better, but the ear pink is too light and it stands out. I suggest using this color or something near: Also add shading on the foreleg and hind leg curve. She's very good otherwise. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Does that pink look better? Minnowclaw 21:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

PLEASE, give me all the notes on it you can. I know it's not perfect!Minnowclaw 14:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The ear is better but some of the shading is rather smudgy. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

What parts are sumdgy?Minnowclaw 16:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The tail and back. It's not so much smudgy as... unsmooth... if that makes sense Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean.Minnowclaw 22:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Just blur the tail and back some, and they will look smoother. -- Bramble My Realm 22:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it looks different, but I did that.Minnowclaw 22:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

That looks better, but your ear went back to that bright shade of pink. Change it back. -- Bramble My Realm 23:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I couldn't find the other one, better? Minnowclaw 00:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Oh please comment! This needs to be done before I go to camp!Minnowclaw 15:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I don't know, I think it looks fine, except for maybe some shading on the near foreleg. Other than that, you've done a great job on Mousefur. -- Bramble My Realm 16:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Silverstream-for Approval
His first true love, Silverstream. Tell me what you think of her. Pixlr started acting funny near the end with her shading and blending so I'll get around to fixing that later cause its bugging the crap out of me.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 03:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Highlights sorta make this one all smudgey --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Timberwolves inc. 00:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Her pelt sorta looks like a spider web. :) I think your tabby marks are a little too curved; unfurl them and straighten them out into the main pelt area some more. -- Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The dot underneath her eye makes her look kind of tired. Other than that, I think this is beautiful. Sparrowsong 20:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but to me it looks like you sharpened the highlights into the pelt rather than blurred them. Smooth them out quite a bit with the blurr tool, without messing up your tabby markings. K? This might just be me though...-- MU MB LE 785  00:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Kestrelwing - for approval
What do you think of him? Did I spell his name correctly?Minnowclaw 01:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I actually really like this effect. My only suggestion would be to put in a pupil into the eye! :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The tabby markings need to be wavy like Echosong's, smooth y's like Leafpool, or jagged y's like Brownpaw's. Triangle tabby is, mentioned by Kitsufox, cartoony, and I use Kitsu's judgement on tabby. --

I darkened the pelt a bit and tried new markings.Minnowclaw 14:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like his colour and these markings are along the right lines but they are very squiggly; perhaps straighten them a little and make sure they are everywhere. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about not putting a new one up soon. I couldn't get it just right, but now I'm happy with the work.Minnowclaw 14:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Ooops! I forgot the ear, L.O.L!Minnowclaw 14:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks like he has a miniature sun on his flank... Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The markings look a bit...fat. Try blending them more.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 18:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Good?Minnowclaw 23:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like it but put a pupil in the eye. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 21:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It still doesn't look like it has one. The way I do it is one make a backwards looking utah where the color is now and do a white pixel in the corner of the color. I'm sorry if its wrong Im forgettful right now. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  01:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I got a little bit confused, what about this?Minnowclaw 01:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

lol The markings are very... spindly now, perhaps increase the width by a pixel or two. Also, the ear pink is too bright and needs blending. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I made it one pixel bigger and I think it looks, odd. Which one is better?Minnowclaw 15:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Runningwind- For Approval
I'm not sure about the stripes, I am so sick of doing the other ones though... --<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 09:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about the stripes either. I think that the idea could work though. Try and use this effect to do cats that have marbled tabby markings. It could work. Fiddle around a bit more. Maybe make them curved and wavy randomly, so with and some without forks. Could work... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Triangle tabby shouldn't be accepted like this. Use your regular tabby markings, DH. Plus, If you want color info, Runningwind is a brown tabby, look in Rising Storm when he dies. --

I love these kind of markings, personally. Real cats have the markings, I think, from some cat pics I've looked through. Anyway, maybe darken him because he looks more golden than brown.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

He definitely needs to be more brown and less yellow in my opinion. Also, there is a dark stripe down his back not disimilar to Greystripe's...I don't remember him having this Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, the smooth y's are the most accurate, like the one's on Leafpool. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 22:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Depends on the cat, actually. Does he look better now?--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I reckon he could be a bit browner. I i like the stripes. :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 08:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * He's supposed to be light brown. I don't wanna make him too dark...--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 08:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the colour better now but the ear pink needs a bit more blending. Also, the markings on the top of his head look a little strange... Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I changed it.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 20:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Extend the ear pink a little bit.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 21:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, done.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Little Mew - For Approval


My first kit. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I like it. But make the hay colored fur part more like it is in the Graystripe manga one. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  19:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 20:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I haven't read the Graystripe manga series since it first came out, so i have no idea what you mean... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 08:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In the comic he has yellow 'hair'--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 09:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Can someone show me a pic from the book? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I got creative. Is this what you mean? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't really say, but you will have to change the line art. It's like a little...., fluff. Like, sort of a fluffy Mohawk that moves over to one side. Am I making any sense?!Minnowclaw 22:34, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Sorry, I just looked and it's like hair, or a flatten out Mohawk on both sides, my bad!Minnowclaw 01:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I don't know about this one. It looks weird... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

This is directed to anyone who has read the comic. Does it ever really say that the tuft of fur on their head is hay-colored? The mangas are gray, white, and black, and there was no official colored pic of Little Mew or Husker. I mean, how many cats have a gray pelt yet a tawny piece of fur on their heads? I could very well be a lighter shade of gray, or white. It's kinda like Graystripe's muzzle in the manga. It's a lighter shade of gray on the cover, and it's the same color as Little Mew's tuft in the manga. Now, if I should be proved wrong, Dawn, the pic is good, he's very cute, but maybe move the yellow back a bit away from his eyes, and up towards the top of his head. Also, the dark marks on it make it look like macaroni. -- Bramble My Realm 03:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

There's a place on the official website that we can ask the authors stuff. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 17:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

To be honest I just read the hay colored part on his description. Now that I think about it, it can be any color lighter than his pelt color. And Mistyfur, the official website is false so that Ask Erin Hunter thing is most likely false to. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  20:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I made it a light gray. It still doesn't look okay. I'm wondering if this is able to be made good enough to be approved. It's a pretty awkard picture. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 07:35, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh he doesn't look awkward. He actually looks really cute now. -- Bramble My Realm 16:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Whitestorm - For approval
After my recent... stupidness with Poppydawn, I have now posted Whitestorm. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 11:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The only problem I see is that he has amber eyes. Summer is here  !!!!!!!!!!  17:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks good, but maybe extend the ear pink a little to the left.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 18:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Changed the eye and ear. What thinks you now? The pictures are the same except one has been burnt over a little bit more.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 01:15, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the first versian because it loks more white, and the other one looks...gray-ish, kind of. maybe lighten the eye color on the first one.

First one, but the eye is still amber, is that just for me?Minnowclaw 22:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The eyes are supposed to be amber. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I swear that he has blue eyes. In Into the Wild, it should give a full description of him, I don't have my book handy, can someone check?Minnowclaw 00:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I will, just be a minute.. I went with his page, but you may be right (what Sandwich said earlier was correcting my blue eys.) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

It says that 'his eyes were the yellow of sun-baked sand'/ I could probably make them a bit yellower... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Ya, I just read it too, sorry.Minnowclaw 18:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Just changed the colour of the eye, and un-blurred the little blurred part of the chest. Anything else? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 07:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't see anything. Any more comments before approval in 24? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Leader blanks - For approval
(M) - Alright! I've drawn cats for awhile now, so I thought I'd put it to good use!


 * Double lineart? Cheak.


 * About the right size? Cheak.

All it needs is a transparent bckground. Could somebody do that for me please? I know how to do it, but I've had some troubles and I don't want to risk anything! Thanks! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)



OMG, ur so good! =] This are real good. Lets see what everyone else says- but wait, some pplz made leaders with the warrior blanks... <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 20:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've done the transparency for you and had no problems with pixlr... don't know what that was about. As for the images. I like the position you've chosen and overall they are very good. There are a few things though. Firstly their backs are quite bumpy... Secondly, their heads are quite small and could be a bit bigger. I also think the fur on the belly of the longhaired looks strange and needs to be a bit... neater (that sounds so stupid). We also nede to think about how easy they'll be to colour. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 20:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanies! I think the people who made leaders with warrior blanks understood that leader blanks would be made one day. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you mean that they coloured Bluestar in a warrior blank for example. If so then the reason for that is that we are eventually hoping to get images of all ranks every cat has ever upheld. They will all be added to a character's page together. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 20:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'll fix these some more tomorrow... but for now, the fur and backs have been fixed on the male and female longhaired. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

There is gray on the picture? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 01:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

That's the transparent background Mistfur Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:32, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

'''(M) - Note: I will be gone for the next week or so. Please do not delete these images. I am planning to work on them as soon as I am done with camp. Thank you.''' Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 21:17, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Thrushwing - For Approval


I did two versions with different shading techniques (for some reason I'm really struggling with warriors at the moment). I think I prefer the first but I'm not sure... Which has the most potential of ever looking good? lol. And what can I do to improve whichever? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 20:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the first one best. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, extend the shading on the belly up so it reaches the back, and soften it out a bit. Soften out the thing on the neck too. The eye also needs a pupil. XD --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 01:19, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Any better? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Your shading is very nice. She's beautiful. I don't see anything wrong. (I'm saying that a lot as of late :) -- Bramble My Realm 19:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Just be sure to turn the bg transparent. Other than that; comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 22:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

She has a white dot on her chest. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 07:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Done Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Repeating. 24 hrs starting now. -- Bramble My Realm 16:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Birdflight - For Approval
Took a shot at Birdflight after rereading Firestar's Quest. -- Gοlδεn pαω 00:45, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I only have one problem with this - the ear is gray. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. -- Gοlδεn pαω 00:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

It's still a little too gray. I think it also has to be blended in a bit. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 01:17, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, she is light brown, not reddy. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 01:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I see what you mean. -- Gοlδεn pαω 01:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

If you have fixed the ear, needs to be a little bit more pink, if you haven't NVMMinnowclaw 23:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like this, except that maybe you could paint over that one stripe on the shoulder, as you can see through it a little bit. -- Bramble My Realm 16:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the stripe I think you were talking about. -- Gοlδεn pαω 21:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Webfoot- For Approval
-makes mental note to lay of on tabbies for a while---<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 06:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I really like it, except the markings next to the eye don't look right. Make a wave from the eye, and maybe a fork form the whiskers. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:52, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

The marking on the cheek looks, odd. It looks too much like the actual cheek.Minnowclaw 22:25, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Changed eye mark.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

It should be longer and in this shape ~ --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather  09:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Why lay off on the tabbies? It looks great! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 22:13, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

There is some smudging outside of the line art around the tail. Minnowclaw 22:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Fixed the smudging and removed the eye-mark. It was too much trouble, and I couldn't get the shape right.--<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you should try again with the eye mark. I think it really needs it! -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 10:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Deputy blanks - for approval
Yes, I edited the warrior blanks, but when you think about it, they wouldn't look any different. I put the tail down because it said most young warriors and apprentices had their tails strait up in excitement and I thought that when a cat was the deputy, they would look wiser so I put the tail laying down. I put the front foot behind the pic because maybe they had put a cat for the hunting patrol and dawn patrol and was frustrated and hit the ground. Feel free to hate it...Minnowclaw 22:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like how you changed the paw, but i think that the old tail looks better. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Should I put it back to normal or can you give me tips to make it better?Minnowclaw 00:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I think that you should probably put the tails back to normal. It's hard to make realistic tails. Exanding on what I said earlier, the paw makes them look comanding, and busy. (That is a good thing) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I actually think the tails look good down... it further makes them look different from the warrior blanks and also is a pose that just looks dignified. I don't know. Dawn, let's see what some others think. I could be overrided. -- Bramble My Realm 03:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Minnowclaw and Bramble. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 12:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Should I just wait or is there something I can work on now?Minnowclaw 18:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

To further more make it different, I put the ear down, was it better the first time?Minnowclaw 19:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Keep them up. When their ears are down it makes them looks submissive and less like a deputy. Also more resembles a puppy. -- Bramble My Realm 19:35, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I like these but I the shorthaired look like they're sitting on their tails... Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Move the tails up a pixel, so they're partially covering the paws. (Sandy, if you read this, get on the IRC. :) -- Bramble My Realm 19:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better?Minnowclaw 21:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


 * The paw up like that is a good idea, but I don't like it. It looks like The leg on Cinderpelt that I crippled. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 21:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Yours was completely bent backward, where here you can see a curve. They don't look the same. Minnowclaw, not that much. :) Keep the size of the tail the same and just move it up one pixel over the paws. You know, just sort of skim the bottom off. And one if the pics still has an ear down. -- Bramble My Realm 21:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Good?Minnowclaw 22:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Yeah, lots better. Anyone else have anything? -- Bramble My Realm 22:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The tails on the shorthaired are bothering me. They're too straight, almost nothing is perfectly straight in nature. Curve the tail a little bit. Like the longhaired one, just don't make it as thick. :) --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 00:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Much better! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 03:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The shorthair's tail still looks to strait at the point where it bends. --<span style="color: darkblue; background:#gold; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em; color:darkblue;"> Darkhallows Lair 07:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The tail is like at a right angle. Maybe make it a bit more curved instead. -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 10:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Good?Minnowclaw 15:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Snowfur - For Approval


Tried a new shading style with her. I'm not sure if I like it. What do you guys think? -- Bramble My Realm 17:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Try making the shading a tad bit darker.Minnowclaw 18:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Made the shading a touch darker. Anything else? -- Bramble My Realm 22:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Aaaa, hmm..., I got nothin'.Minnowclaw 22:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks beautiful! I'd say it's ready for approval now. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I like her too, but wasn't she long haired? -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 08:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

People edit our articles, and sometimes they are wrong. I can't find anywhere that says she's longhaired in the books. However, I did find in the BP excerpt that she has gray ear tips, so I'll change those. -- Bramble My Realm 15:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Brindleface - For Approval


I'm surprised that no one has done Brindleface yet. She just seems like a cat that everyone on here would be jumping on. I had a hard time trying to figure out what she looked like. In all the allegiances, she's just known as a "pretty tabby", on here she's described as a dappled gray tabby, in Into the Wild it says she's pale gray with darker flecks, just like her kits, and we of course have her name, Brindleface. So here we have a light gray cat with a ton of tabby marks a lot of dark flecks. If you have any suggestions, please suggest! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 22:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT1 Darkened eye. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 00:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

It's confirmed in the books she's gray tabby, like her kits. She is vacker (Swedish word for beautiful). Maybe you can do her queen blank as well. The only thing is that I think she has green eyes. -- Bramble My Realm 22:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Yep, page 97 of Forest of Secrets, if you want a reference. -- Bramble My Realm 22:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

► Bramble Okay, thanks! I'm glad the tabby think works. I'd be happy to do her queen blank! And she does have green eyes. I made them more pale, like Ferncloud's. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The only thing is that the green is similar to her gray pelt and it's hard to see. Can you make the green a bit more pronounced? -- Bramble My Realm 23:43, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

► Bramble Okay, I shall do so! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 00:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

It's good, but I'm with Bramble. Change the eye. I actually did have a go at Brindleface, but It turned out pretty horribele so I didn't upload it. (What do you think of my nwe sig? I'm not sure myself.)... -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 08:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

► Dawnfeather I darkened it a little bit, but you're right it still blends in with the gray. Should I make it more saturated? I'm sure your Brindleface couldn't have been too horrible, nothing else you do is. And I like your new sig! Although at first I didn't know who you were. :) Do you want me to keep calling you Dawnfeather or start calling you Minnowberry? --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud  17:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Queen Blanks - For Approval


I have to thank Minnowclaw for bringing this up. These blanks here are not mine, I claim absolutely no ownership; they belong to Melonlemon. She left, and these were declined. But many people liked them, and there were only a few minor things even wrong with them. On her page, User:Melonlemon, it says we may edit/use her images, and that she's leaving. These are very good, and it would be a waste if we just threw them away. Now, I have done the tweakings that needed to be done; Darkhallows: got rid of that flip on the longhair's tail; Goldencloud: unenclosed the toes on the paws; and Dawnfeather: shrunk the ears. Whew, okay, is there anything else that needs to be done? Will make changes later, I have to go do my dad's FD present. -- Bramble My Realm 23:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I never edited this. I think you're confusing me with someone else. :) <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:21, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh no Goldie. :) I meant the comment you put in it's section. Look at Declined Art 6, under the queen blanks section, and you'll see that you made a comment on it. -- Bramble My Realm 23:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Here, is this better: I fixed the ears, as Dawnfeather said they were too big, I got rid of a flip on the longhair tail, as Darkhallows said it looked unnatural, and I got rid of the enclosed toes on the paw, as Goldencloud said they looked odd. -- Bramble My Realm 23:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The hind legs, the top curve on it should curve outward, not inward. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 00:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. -- Bramble My Realm 00:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I get what you're saying now. I wondered what happened to these queen blanks, I had remembered that they were really good. I'm glad you're re-posting them, Bramble! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 00:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, th lines need to be thicker, and there are little lines infront of the ears... -- Minnowberry Dawnfeather's Den 08:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thickened the outside lineart, does it look better? -- Bramble My Realm 15:35, 22 June 2009 (UTC)



Here's an example of what they would look like used. (I did this before I thickened the lineart and didn't feel like making changes.) -- Bramble My Realm 15:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Meh, I couldn't sleep for the guilt, so I changed it. -- Bramble My Realm 16:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I think these look amazing! And I love the one you colored! Once these are approved, you should actually post her as a queen. If you don't, I'll steal it and do it myself! :P Just kidding I wouldn't do that. Or would I? --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 17:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Lol Goldie. I actually didn't think she was that good. It's Silverstream, btw, in case that was hard to guess. :) -- Bramble My Realm 17:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Tornear - for Approval


Here's the old grey wc tom... he needs to retire soon; younger cats than him are already in the elders' den... lol. Anyway, constructments? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 17:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

'Constructments', Sandy? ;) Well, the only thing I see is that he's tabby. And I know this for sure. His description in the allegiance has always been tabby tom, and it said in the books somewhere that he was gray. Those are my constructments. XD -- Bramble My Realm 17:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Constructments - comments/constructive critisism (quicker to write lol). I am such a mouse brain. I'll go fetch him some markings :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I added tabby markings but they might not be showing yet. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 19:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Queen Blanks- For Approval
Yeh, I know they kind of suck. They look like the other blanks, in the good old sitting fashion. Sure doesn't beat the other Queen blanks that were submitted, but it was my first try (Plus I didn't realize someone else submitted until I had finished, and didn't want them to go to waste). I used MS Paint. Please, criticize. ;D