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Icicle (K) For Aprroval


Hi! This is my first charart. It's Icicle the kit from the Ravenpaw's Path Manga series. Please leave comments and stuff so I can fix it. Also, as an apprintice I want to say Bluestar's tutorial was very helpful. Thank you Bluestar! I had no clue what to do! This isn't very good but like I said, it's my first cat. Tell me what to do and thanks! May StarClan light your path!Artimas Hunter 19:14, January 8, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, first of all in needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail. Second, I see you've saved it in jpg format. It's a way better idea to save it in either png. or gif. Third, the background needs to be transparent right now it's black. Fourth, the eyes need eye white. Look at this for help--User:Icethroat21/Tutorials. Fifth, the ear pink is to hot pink, make it lighter and then blur. Sixth, she's supposed to be pale gray, with a white stripe on her forhead, a white chest, see here -Icicle She just looks white. Darken the gray on her pelt, and blend the spots where it's supposed to be white-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:23, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Glad I could help! Ok, go back and save it in your image program, but save it as a PNG, so the background will be transparent. You need to make the white mark very, very pale gray, and darken the pelt color. The ear pink looks too hot pink - see the chart on my tutorials for reference. He needs highlights, and the shading needs to be darkened/thickened. The eyes also need a glare (little white dot). See Icethroat's tutorials on how to do the eye. -- ★ Bat wing ☽  ⋆Deputy⋆23:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits! I changed it so it fits both of your suggestions!Artimas Hunter 17:11, January 9, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Better. Now blur the white parts.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Artimas Hunter 20:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This looks good =) You need to blur the white a bit more though - try looking at some other patched cats to see how much to blur. Also, the shading needs to be a bit thicker and blended in more. Look at Applefur's kit version for an example as to how I would shade a kit. Be careful not to blur the lineart though. This is a great start to a first image =) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  20:30, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I think it turned out okay too. :D Is this better?Artimas Hunter 21:01, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This is really good but, darken the earpink a tad.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this is better? I'm so excited for it to be approved! I hope it's soon!00:05, January 12, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay sorry if this goes into another chart, my computer's got a problem, anyways here is Icicle again for approval. Comment back! I think she's almost ready for approval but I am kinda biased on the opinion! :D Artimas Hunter 21:42, January 13, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Hi! I know I'm being really impatient but I'm bored and no one has comented for days. Would someone have mercy and comment PLEASE??!! I want her to be approved cause I made 2 other chararts that are ready to go when she gets approved.Artimas Hunter 22:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

The highlight looks too bright Icecloud33  00:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''I think you're looking at the white chest and think theyre highlights. The earpink color still isnt quite right, try a color like Tess or Husker and blur it'''.The font is actin up on me T.T Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:42, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you soooooooooooo much for commenting! i think I was about to explode! :D I see what you mean aboutt the font.....anyways, here is Icicle revised! Ashshadow is right, she has a white chest not highlights but if those were highlights they would be WAY to bright! What do you think? I'm so excited!Artimas Hunter 01:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

- Okay, I know this is my own image and I don't normally give them as examples, but you need to make the shading thicker and darker and blurred. You could also use Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better?Artimas Hunter 23:50, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the shading some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:07, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Artimas Hunter 20:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Getting there =) Add some shading under the neck and on the face ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:11, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Thanks, I hope I get done soon! It's turning out way better then I thought it would!Artimas Hunter 22:11, January 21, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, now blend the shading ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? It's not blurring well biut that might just be me. Do you think it needs more?Artimas Hunter 00:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

A little more. Also - you seem to have hit the lineart in places. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:15, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I did it. It's not blurring well, I think I burned it too much. Do you think I should start over?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:54, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I would say so only because the lineart would be hard to fix. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:28, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I urned it andblurred it too sloppily. I'm going to go redo it now. Thanks. -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 00:47, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, the redone Icicle! She's a lot better with the blurring and shading!-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:02, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I cant see the shading. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:51, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Can you see it now?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 00:52, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

yes but make it darker. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:59, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Dark enough?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 22:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the highlights a lot.-- M I  N  N  O  W  C  L  A  W  00:01, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Better?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 22:58, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Not really, it just looks lie a white blob on her head and chest. Maybe darken the highlight a bit and then blur. Just a thought. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:08, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm trying to blur it as much as I can and I do't know if this is any better. Is it good? Sorry :( -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:43, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The white chest is blurred good but make the mark on her head more stripe like. Also darken/add shading on the legs. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:17, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Is this done well enough?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:18, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

You're gonna hate me for this but you need to darken the shading. Also make the earpink a little bit bigger. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:35, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Aw. I don't hate you! Is this dark enough?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:09, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Now thicken it some. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:16, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

And blur it too. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  02:06, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really get what you mean by thickening it but is this right?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 14:54, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Not exactly. I left a message on your talk page about it cause it was kinda long. For the image can you make the earpink a little bit bigger and blur it some more. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 15:05, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Ash. Is this far out enough?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 15:23, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

yes just darken and blur. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 15:25, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Is this dark/blurred well enough? Happy Valentines Day to all!-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:13, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sasha(KP)-For approval


Im not sure about this one, it probably fails. Anyways, comments?(it's Firepelt,I have to fix my siggy because its messed up.

Not bad, just darken and blur the shading, and also, her eyes looks a bit neon blue to me, make them more neutral, like Heathertail's maybe? insan TA STE  THE  RAIN BOW  eu lar  20:47, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Firepelt, while you fix your siggie, can you at least put something like Firepelt so that it looks like this: Firepelt and has the time shown, that way there's a link to your user page and from there we can get to your talk page. For the image itself, Insane covered almost all of it, but make the ear pink more of a reddish color, like on Rippletail's or Mossypaw. --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I had gotten her Ear pink directly from her rouge image, but i'll make it more of a red color. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  21:15, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  21:15, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good Fire! But bur the shading more. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  21:11, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Thank you Ice. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  00:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Something is missing... Why not get the Dodge tool and run it over the hind leg and shoulder once or twice? Maybe the head needs a good Dodging too. After that, It will look so much livelier! Swifty How's the prey running?

Dodge her? Why? I got her color directly from her rouge image though. Why dodge? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  02:06, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have to admit, Im not the best as dodging. Really! Im not. truth is, im horrible. I dont think i'll be able to do that. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  02:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading. Maplefern Hi everyone! 02:18, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I could Dodge it for you, if you'd like. Swifty How's the prey running?

Reuploaded.I blurred the shading, you can try to dodge it you you'd like, Swifty, then post it on my talk page to see if i'll use it instead.Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  16:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

blur the shading a bit. Minn owc law 01:23, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else?

No, I think this is ready now. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:15, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think more shading is needed on the face, tail and foreleg and it all needs blending some more. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  23:35, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... Can you make her paws and her muzzle darker brown? She is supposed to be some sort of siamese I think, according to her piccy in the manga. -Owlblaze Oakstar 07:11, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

She looks nothing lie a siamese, and I got the color from her rouge version. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  20:59, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

I still see no shading on her tail or forleg Perhaps thicken it. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  22:35, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  16:50, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the shading on her back and add some to her right foreleg. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:23, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  19:07, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

This is great FirePelt! Sorry about the...um....confliction on Sandy's Poppydawn. All I can say is blur her shading on the head! As I said before this is really good! Will you sign my friends list? Fawnstorm 16:45, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Off-Topic - Fawn: I'm going to speak for Firepelt here (sorry) and say don't worry about it. That's what the system is about and every opinion is welcome. If you believe something should be changed strongly enough then fight for it, as long as you stay polite and respectful to other opinions then there's no problem. FirePelt: For the image, perhaps make the nose colour the same as the ear colour. ✐S aN  dY  21:26, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Sandy! I'll try and stay on topic from now on! XD! Make Sasha's ear pink a bit lighter! XD! Fawnstorm 10:30, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I had got the ear pink color directly from her queen image. Firepelt ★  15:21, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, ok. Never mind. XD! Fawnstorm 16:49, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Featherwhisker(MCA) - For Approval
I know it says it's the 40th, but five of the messages are unrelated to the chararts, making mine the 35th. Well, what do you think? It's my very first Charart! It was really hard, but I think it's ok. I wasn't sure if the herbs looked ok, so I put them like that. Just a little question, say someone said change the herbs to green, I edit it, and then what? Do I upload the new one? Anyway, comments?

Edit: Everytime I upload it, it's pixelated. I don't know how to change it without doing it again, and making it pixelated.Birchy 18:09, January 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok when you reupload it go to File:Featherwhisker.jpg then go down and you should see upload new file os something like that cick it and then upload the new character art, I'll say something about the pic but I've got to eat frist :) Brambleclaw14 Talk 18:18, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks Bramble! Birchy 18:19, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Back :) on the pic yep I think you should make the herbs green look at Jayfeather you get the color :) also call me Shruggy as Bramble is called Bramble :) and good character art Brambleclaw14 Talk 19:07, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ok then. And, by the comment, do you mean call you Shruggy on the Bramble14 account, and Bramble, on the Bramble account? Birchy 19:20, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Birchy 19:28, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble and Brambleclaw14 (aka Shruggy) are two different users. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:32, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

It looks pixlated. That is because you saved as a JPG. Redo the image as a PNG. Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:25, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

So, do I need to redo the image? Birchy 10:05, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I decided to do it again. It didn't take long, besides, I don't know how to change it from JPEG, to PNG. Birchy 10:28, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the shading and add a highlight to the herbs.-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:30, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid it again, because it looked strange. my pixel problem is solved: I just need to remember to put png. Birchy 15:10, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blend the shading. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:37, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I can't get it blurred without blurring the lineart. Birchy 21:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The way to not blur lineart is by using layers. The way to do it in most image programs is the same. First, open up your image, then, use the wand select tool to select all the lineart. Then Cut it (Control/Command+X) and make a new layer on the image, then paste the lineart into that layer, now you can do the color separately from the lineart. insan TA STE  THE  RAIN BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:27, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:28, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. NEVER GET AN EVIL COMPUTER!! I would have worked on it, but my stupid computer wouldn't let me on Pixlr. GRR! Anyways, I blurred the shading. I can't get the layers to work. It either doesn't work at all, or it blurs the lineart. http&#58;//warriors.wikia.com/wiki/User:Birchy 11:50, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I can barely see the shading. Darken it/lighten highlights (one or both) and maybe add a highlight to the top of the head?-- Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:05, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Susan(KP)-For Approval
Well,Sandy put Sasha CBA few hours ago,so I guess its okay.I used Insane's tutorials..--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:53, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back, the tabby stripes in the shaded area, and the ears. And on the tag, there's a black blob with a line connecting to ghe fur. Erase this, because it shouldn't be there. (I know it's on the lineart, it just needs to be removed). Otherwise, great job! Birchy 10:56, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) IvyHi there!! 11:14, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Great! There's still that blob on the tag. Any you coloured in the line. Erase them, and this will be great!Birchy 11:16, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes look weird. look at Night shine's tutorial for eyes here Echoheart 11:36, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guysreuploded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:44, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the highlight on the tail a little bit, then this will be great! M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:29, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'm glad my videos could help :) One thing I'd suggest is blurring the tabby stripes on the head a little more. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  15:49, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

You still haven't fixed the tag. Where it's golden, there's a black blob. Get rid of that, and coming down from it is a line. Get rid of that, the color there and it should be ready! Also, blur the stripes on the tail, near the end. Birchy 17:03, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

The color looks really off. It says that Suzan is a light brown tabby. This looks golden, almost yellow-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:08, January 30, 2010 (UTC) REUPLOADEDsorry but ive been busy!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:28, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The head looks flat. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 12:03, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights more. Other than that this is really good! Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 22:22, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I changed the style.comments?--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 06:03, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

maybe make the eye color a tiny bit lighter and darken the shading. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 17:42, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look very wobbly. I'm assuming you copied the style Shady used for Cody, so try and make the lines a lot smoother ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

reupoloaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 10:30, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and the shading more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:01, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded..-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 07:25, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

All I can see is that the stripes are still shaky in places - makes her look like her spine is wobbly. Just smooth them out a little and blur a tiny bit. The highlights need blending also. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  12:57, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED!! ≈Ivy -sama≈  03:26, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the left (our right) ear, and then this should be good. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 23:01, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yoopee!! ≈Ivy -sama≈  12:54, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, found one more thing: blur the ear pink a little bit more and make it a tad bit darker. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 19:49, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

FIXED!! ≈Ivy -sama≈  10:55, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Graystripe (KP) - For Approval
Here's Graystripe. Comments? -- Rain whisker 567 14:23, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Nice work. But on the tag, there's a blob of black, with a line connecting to the fur. Delete this, as it shouldn't be here. (It's the lineart, I know, but it needs to be fixed. These need to be removed from all linearts.) Darken the stripe along his back. Good job!Birchy 14:25, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and the stripe on his back.Then maybe make the tuff on his head the same color as his stripe to show it coming over his head. Then do what Birchy said the this should be good. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:51, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

To Birchy, I fixed the lineart the other day, so it shouldn't be a problem after this one. And to Blackclaw, really good, just thin his back stripe and darken it a little more. 15:23, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, do all that. But the stripe needs to come over his head. See his warrior image - Graystripe-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:55, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Any other concerns? Rain whisker  21:09, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

You made the stripe too big. It covers the hidden haunch. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:52, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Ashy's right. Look at Cody. There is a stripe on her back, it might help-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:46, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Ash is right. The stripe has hidden the farthest haunch,make the haunch the color of the shading, so it looks right. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  23:39, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better? Rain whisker  00:53, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Connect the part of the stripe on his back, to his collar. Then define the part of the stripe on his head more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:56, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Stormfur (W) - For Approval
Gr...Six more weeks of winter. Woah, that groundhog Phil is such a liar. Anyways how do you like my fail on Stormfur? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 21:22, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

He is really good, just blur the shading more all around, blur the earpink a little more, and maybe add a highlight to his tail. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:24, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't even realize that is was groundhog day today! I was snowboarding....As for the image, blur the shading and highlights. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 21:26, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blured as much as possible. Stupid Phil. You would have seen your shadow anyways, the sun is out. But your so cute little Groundhog! Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 21:36, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the tail highlight so that it fits the curve of the tail and blur it. The highlights on the body still need to be blured more but im not sure what to tell you. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:59, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this better? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 23:14, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Could you blur the highlight on the tail? It looks as if he has a grey tipped tail Angel  Paw  00:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 01:25, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading to the tail. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 13:31, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Ice <font color="#CC0000">T here will only be five heros.... 21:57, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

For the highlight on the tail, could you make it more with the curve of the tail like Ashshadow said? I mean, with the dodge tool, make a line that goes along his tail, following the curve, rather than a spot at the top of it. Like Icecloud said, it looks a little like a gry tipped tail. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:43, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better?

He looks much better, just blur the tail more now. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  01:20, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Ice <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines! 01:36, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the earpink a bit larger and blur the tail. Other than that, I can't see anyhting that needs improving. :) Mistyheart 14:10, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Is this better? And thanks Misty! Ice <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines! 23:56, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks really good XD ! But anyway, I think you should blur the earpink more and blur the tip of the tail.Echoheart 01:26, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks! Is this better? Ice <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines! 01:35, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's pretty good but blur the highlights a bit more...they look really distinct. Also, if there's a highlight on his muzzle, then there is no need for there to be shading on the muzzle. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:59, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Ice <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines! 02:33, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * The shading on his tail and body needs blending ✐S  aN  dY  11:55, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded.  Ice''' <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines! 17:23, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks a bit too... square (I don't know if that makes sense) like the pelt is sort of boxed in by the shading. Also, darken the shading on both his hind legs, and there are places around the legs mainly where where there is shading, there are little parts that don't have shading on them LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 01:17, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Icestorm. Got your message on my talk page, and not that I think about it doesn't really make any sense does it ;) Okay, never mind that. Just blur the shading a whole lot more LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 21:27, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. That is as much as I can blur. Ice <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines!  01:22, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Any more comments? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 21:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

NVM. Blue helped me do this in GIMP. :) <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:Turqoise">Icestorm 23:04, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfur (W) for approval
I've been wanting to do another cat, but I've been so busy, I chose a pretty simple one. Besides, he didn't have any charart yet.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  23:58, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading some and make the earpink more redish. other than that this is good. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:03, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks alright to me, it just needs to be blurred. Dark hallows 00:27, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add highlights. I don't see any--  Night shine   ♥  01:07, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Highlights are optional. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 01:08, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I always like them better with highlights--  Night shine   ♥  01:33, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made the earpink a little more red and blurred it, and thickened the shading. I'm still working on how to do highlights. Are there any tutorials on them?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  17:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Look at the apprentice tutorials on the main page. I would link it but I don't know how. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:27, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Warriors Wiki:Charart/Apprentice Tutorials ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  07:07, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:32, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little to big, make it smaller and darker Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:05, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading also needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:03, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:06, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink some more. This is really good! Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 19:21, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:11, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

The shading and ear pink still need blending. ✐S aN  dY  21:18, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Heavypaw (A) For Approval
Sorry if I don't remember all of the charart rules, I am new at it. I don't know where the reservation page is. I'm not on the project yet, but I asked to be added at the bottom of the Sharpclaw blank chat thing.

I made this piccy of Heavypaw.



Does this look good? Or should I put his foot back to normal, and keep the leg like that? I made him a little fatter by changing his back, I hope thats okay. His discription said he was thick. -Owlblaze

What did you do to his leg!? It looks like a frog :D. Sign after your message with four of ~. It's good for a first try! I don't think you need to make him fatter.Why do you have two accounts? Owlheart and Owlblaze?--  Night shine   ♥  02:51, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Wait you have three accounts! Oakstar, Owlheart and Owlblaze!--  Night shine   ♥  02:52, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, he has a deformed leg. You need to reserve this and you aren't even part of the project.--  Night shine   ♥  02:53, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, nightfall didn't add me yet. :(. Can you point me to the reservation page? And yeah, lol. I made Owlblaze, forgot the pass. I tried the retreive pass, it didn't work. And when I try and log into Owlheart it freezes up my comp. So I made Oakstar. Its the only one I can log into. -Owlblaze (Oakstar) 03:04, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh okay! You can find the reservation place on the Project Character Art main page.--  Night shine   ♥  03:06, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thank you! I will go make a reservation. Wow, a warrior! May I see some of your charart? -Owlblaze Oakstar 03:09, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I found the reservation part. I am not sure now. It says to just make a new posting here to offer charart. Halp? What do I need to do to reserve him? -Owlblaze Oakstar 03:14, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

What, what the heck? You have three user names? Which one do I put you up as?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:19, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, wait. Never mind. But I think this will have to be declined because you haven't joined yet, and you didn't reserve him.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:21, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, you're now an apprentice, welcome to the PCA! But, I still think this might have to be declined, I'm Sorry!-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:23, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hurrah! Oh, do you think you could put after oakstar: (owlblaze). Because I can't log into that acc, but I love that name. So should I just make a new posting on this page with the piccy again? (I'm not sure how to reserve Heavypaw) **EDIT** Lol forgot siggy -Owlblaze Oakstar 07:08, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

You altered the leg and tail in a funny way. This couldn't be approved. I don't know if it's your computer or you did it, but please don't mess around with the lineart. I know thathe has a deformed leg, but I still don't think this will be approved. Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.10:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Quailflight: It is perfectly acceptable to edit the lineart for the purpose of addig specific characteristics (see Cinderpelt, Oddfoot and Kinkfur). Oakstar: I think by editing the back lineart he looks fat rather than thick-set... perhaps edit that back to the original and try and create the effect with shading instead. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:14, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty good, just add more shading, and maybe erase a little of the top of the deformed leg because it looks like it goes up too far, if you took off a little of how far it goes it might look more natural...? (Do you get what I mean? I know it sounds odd :P) <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

He looks really fat. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:54, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I really like it but the leg is very..... strange. <font color="#0000FF">EcHoPaW  17:08, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hm... I don't think I editted the tail. Do you see anything different? Hm.. Okay, so I added more shading, and fixed the length of the leg, and I also make him a bit more skinny. (He tried Jenny cat, and it worked! :D lol) what do you think now:

Owlblaze Oakstar 06:03, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

You need to erase the line that makes the paw thats usually hidden look round. Sorry if it's not making senc Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:42, February 8, 2010 (UTC)e

It looks as if you completely re-did the lineart for some reason. His back looks very lumpy, his belly looks fat, and, kinda weird-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:58, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thats odd. Here is a comparation below. I circles the parts that I eddited Also, the only reason you can see his back foot more is because bent his other foot down, so you can see behind it. I eddited him a bit (I fixed the belly!) and re-uploaded it:

Sorry for this being too long! -Owlblaze Oakstar 08:14, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

His hind leg looks funny, you're messing with the lineart. Use the apprentice blank, and don't change the lineart. Copy and paste this to pixlr.com or whatever you are using, and then color it in, do the tabby stripes, earpink, and the shading. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:24, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Nightwhisker, it's okay to change the lineart for a special purpose, but I have to say that the leg looks odd. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  23:22, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to redo the leg, then compare them side by side. I will edit in a min or two with the new pic. **EDIT** Here they are:

Old and New (Respectivly):

I think the first one got squished a bit when it uploaded. 0_o.

-Owlblaze Oakstar 02:39, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

I got rid of all the unnecessary images; and Oakstar, you need to just reupload using the same file name. Call your image Heavypaw, and just upload on that name every time you update the image. Bramble 19:30, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Bramble(star?) Sorry. Here, the most improved piccy so far Edit: Removed second image link - see image at top of section ✐S aN  dY  12:00, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

What do you all think? I think that his leg isn't bent/deformed enough now. :/. Do you guys think it bent enough? -Owlblaze Oakstar 04:45, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I actually think his leg looks good now. The ear pink needs to be darker and blended though and the whole pelt looks very messy - make the tabby stripes longer and thinner and more clean-cut. Add some shading and blend it in nicely. ✐S  aN  dY  12:00, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I blended the ear more. I havn't fixed the stripes yet. The elder picture shows the stripes very much like mine, Thick and rounded. Can you give me an example stripe for me to get an idea of what you want? :) -Owlblaze Oakstar 03:05, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Millie (KP)-For Approval
I need to get this approved soon. This might be the only time I get on this week.So, here is Millie. Please don't push me to work to hard. I can only do so much.-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.07:21, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

She's pretty! But I thought she was classic tabby? -checks- Oh, nevermind. The stripes look a little unevenly blurred, though. Dark hallows 09:02, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I tried to blur the stripes more evenly.-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.10:25, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... part of her back line is missing I think, and the stripes on her back (the three little spotish ones) look a little. I dunno. And can you make her stripes lighter? Other then that, its awesome! much better then her piccy in the manga! -Owlblaze Oakstar 10:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the stripe lightening matters, Oakstar. Darkhallows is a senior warrior. He would have told me to make them lighter. Anything else, Project charart? Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.10:35, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Now Blur the Shading. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 12:06, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Blurred shading. I'm happy now!-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.17:31, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on the body look to thick. Can you thinin it out? Ice <font color="#CC0000">There will only be five heros.... 21:39, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add a few stripes on her soulder and haunch. It looks kinda empty. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:50, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I added stripes on the shoulder and haunches, and thinned out the stripes.Does the tail look okay?-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.06:50, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

The shading and highlights need blending - I can see the transition as a hard line. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:01, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

It looks awesome! I love it! -Owlblaze Oakstar 06:06, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

There needs to be a little more stripes were her tail starts. It looks kinda like she might have lost them! XD Hope you see were I mean! Were the haunches and things are. See if you can dd a few more stripes in. Fawnstorm 16:42, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

This is Quail, i'm too lazy to sign in. I'm going to need a few more days. Please don't decline this unless i'm not on on valentine's day.76.196.235.53 16:58, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Does it look better now? *prays to StarClan, begging to get this approved*-- Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt. 06:12, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

I love this!!I'm sorry i can't approve.. ≈Ivy -sama≈  10:47, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  14:25, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Quail, I've just got two more things. Blur the stripes more, and blur the ear pink. Then this will be ready, I promise!-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:09, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenfur (A) for approval
hi this is beewing culd u plz approve my brackenpaw? thx

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

The color isnt quite right make him more brown and Make his stripes more distinct if that makes sense. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:39, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... You need ear colour. And Ashshadow's right. Too golden... Lavenderi 22:07, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Also, you always need to sign with the four ~ -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:16, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

He is too yellow. You should work on it or else it will get declined--  Night shine   ♥  02:50, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's only been 4 days. Give her alittle while onger, seeing as she also has a life. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  00:25, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Wait! she allready has one up on the bottem! <font color="FF99FF">Lovepaw <font color="FF33FF">My Talk!  02:00, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenpaw improved!

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is nice but i have to say that this is over the limit, also please look at Brackenfur warrior image. <font color="FF99FF">Lovepaw <font color="FF33FF">My Talk!  01:59, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Beewing, as Echopaw said this is over the limt and you already put him up for approval in another place on this page. You need to use the same thing over again until what you want approved is approved. Please put this is your other Brackenfur (A) for approval. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 02:04, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Moving this to its proper section; Beewing; next time, just upload over the old image with changes, and post in the same section. -- Bramble 02:32, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

how about now?

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

He still looks pretty yellow. His warrior image is more brown -

And also, please sign with the four ~ -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:01, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

How about this? and nightfall what do u mean by signing with the four?

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that's much better. And I mean type four of these ~ after whatever you've typed. If you do that, your siggie will show up after whatever you've typed. (Or click the siggie button on the edit bar)-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:34, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

ok, but i dont have a siggie well nightshine made 1 for me but i'm not sure how to make it appear on my posts even if i do type four ~'s but is brackenpaw approved?

Not yet. He looks too redish now and his earpink is too pink. Also reupload images over the same file name. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 01:27, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

OMG. I love it! Thats very much how a imagine Brakenfur (I didn't know he was tabby though)! I just said it near the beginning of this post bit, but I love it! -Owlblaze Oakstar 09:32, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ashshadow has said it all. And Owlblaze, I'm not getting on to you at all, I just wanted to tell you that whenever you leave a comment on someone's charart, be sure to leave some critique too. It makes everyone feel good when someone says they love their work, but they also need to know how to improve it. Again, I'm not getting on to you :) -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 17:55, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

OK. Well, I would change the stripe a bit on his head that looks like an eyebrow. It matches the warrior piccy, but in my opinion, it looks kinda.... odd. Just my opinion though. -Owlblaze Oakstar 04:30, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, how about this time?

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Beewing i removed the ones that or not for approval and put the newly done one up there. <font color="OO66OO">Echo Rocks! <font color="OO33FF">My Talk!  19:05, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded 

Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 21:29, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This looks much better. Just make the ear pink more of a reddish color, and then it should be good. Also, upload on the same file name instead of uploading on a new name each time, it helps to save space on the wiki. -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 22:16, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorreltail (A) -for approval
Well here is my first tortie. tell me how bad it is. Charm Paw  21:55, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't bad at all! But the tortoiseshell patches aren't like her warrior image. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 21:59, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is really beautiful Charmpaw!! All I see is maybe add either more shading or highlights.

22:02, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

The white part on the tail should be on the inside.--  Night shine   ♥  22:04, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Maple. Make the patches more like one her warrior's image.

22:05, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

I would say just add some more black. The patches wouldn't be exactly the same on both sides of the cat. it's your call though. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:09, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Eekkk, i hate it. is this any better? Charm Paw  23:41, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, this is coming along very well! But the ear pink is a little hard to see, perhaps find a way to define it more? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:44, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yep just darken the ear pink a bit--  Night shine   ♥  02:49, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

It needs to look more like her warrior image which is show above. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:17, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

How do I define it Charm  Paw  21:18, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what they mean by "define it" but the major difference I see between her warrior image and yours is that the shading on the warrior's image makes it pop-out and 3-D looking. Maybe darken the shading then? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:44, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

To define the ear pink, make it a little brighter and contrasting with her pelt color, then blur it. Also, like Moss said, add a lot more shading, because I can't really see any- I agree with Ashshadow though that the patches don't have to match since it's her other side. -slow realization that when I've been making apprentice images for warriors I've done just that without realizing- <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:46, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? Charm Paw  00:24, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading just a little bit more. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:54, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * The ear pink is very pale, almost baby-pink. Make it darker and a little more reddish. ✐S  aN  dY  12:08, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Patch (KP) For Approval
Here's Patch. I used Mousetalon's Tutorial for the shading, and used another approved image for the eyes. Constructments? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:10, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Make the ear pink smaller and blur the patches on the tail some more--  Night shine   ♥  22:30, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 23:39, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

What? When was Patch a kittypet? He was a rogue, then a warrior of SkyClan. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:54, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

This is patch from Tigerstar and Sasha. This is really good Nightwhisker. Maybe darken the nose a little bit. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:59, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - The eyes look very pixelated. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 01:53, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Oh! *face palm* Sorry Nightwhisker, I completely fogot about him! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:07, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad my tutorials helped! Maybe blur the black patch on the head more. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  16:43, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this ok? I tried to fix the eyes, but I don't know if they're ok now... -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:32, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs blending. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:57, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

He's nice! Blur the shading on the collar, and as Mosswhisker said, the eyes look very pixelated. Make the different colours of the eye pixels more similar. Also, I see a patch on the left haunch (the one we can't see) that is completely white, while the rest of the white fur is gray. Darken the shading there. I love your patches, maybe add one or two more to the top of the tail and the tail-tip? It's not nessicary, though; this is very good! B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  21:13, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Aside from what Bluestar said, all I can see is that there's an odd patch of gray on the top of his right (for us) haunch. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:15, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Patch's image in the manga doesn't look like this- he was black and had a white belly, paws, and tail-tip. I have the book. Rain whisker  22:30, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes look kinda dark, you have to cncentrate on them to find the pupils, and they stad out a lot. Maybe brighten them a tad? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:30, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ok Rainwhisker, then should I start over? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:45, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Don't start over, just make the eyes a lighter shade of green. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ 

No, about the problem of him being black with a white underbelly, paws, and and tail-tip, i can fix the eyes... -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:51, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, only because we have an actual picture reference. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:04, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. Sorry about that. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  00:22, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

The transition from white and black needs to be blurred as well as the ear pink also I dont see any shading. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 01:07, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * In addiion to Ash's comment, the ear pink needs blending and the eyes look a little dark ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  14:41, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur in his white points! XD! Fawnstorm 16:39, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Add highlights and blur the transitions. Also, the ear pink looks a bit wonky, if you could blur that and make it neater. XD Mistyheart 14:52, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea what wonky means, so I tried to fix the earpink the best I could. Reuploaded. Is this better? -- Luck whisker I can feel the clouds beneath my paws!! 15:09, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Jake (KP) - For Approval


(M) - ''This should be under the limit seeing as two of the sections are disscussions. If it's over you can take it down.''

Jake is both Scourge's (My favorite cat!) and our famous Firestar's father. What more could you ask for?

Gah this took forever to do! *dies*

Anyways, constructive critisism? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 02:00, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Strange, this isn't how I pictured him. I thought he'd look more like Firestar, since he's his father... But for this image, darken the ear pink. It's really good though! B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  02:17, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

He should be more gingery. The markings on his tail and forehead look strange.--  Night shine   ♥  02:19, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightshine, he looks to cream colored. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:06, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

His pelt looks cream, make it a ginger color. Also, he markings do look odd/strange. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  20:34, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

He looks peachy and cream, like said above, and I thought he was a solid ginger. The tabby stripes looks real cool but I didn't think he had stripes. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  13:59, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. Yay for snow days! I changed the pelt color, eyes, ear pink, and the shading and highlihgts. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:32, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's great! Make the ear pink more reddish--  Night shine   ♥  22:44, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. Fixed ear pink. Is it better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:05, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Amazing, as always, Mosswhisker! The only thing is that the artist of the blanks said that the right ear (for us, left ear for the cat) is turned away so that ear doesn't need ear pink. Seriously though... it's awesome! <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  23:31, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

He is Firestar;s father, maybe you could make him a bit firey color? Wetty What do you mean they only had 31 flavors?! 00:02, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is AMAZING! Get rid of the ear pink on his left ear and this will be perfect. XD Mistyheart 14:48, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. Removed ear pink from our right ear. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 02:11, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

How do you do that kind of fur? It's amazing! Anyways, he seems a little. . . bright. Maybe dull the color a bit. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  21:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (W)- For Approval
Okay, so there's 36 topics but two of them are unrelated, so this is technically the 35th topic :3 But you can take it down if it's over, somehow. Here's Goldenflower as a warrior, with nicked ear and all. Is she a tad shiny? I've just looked at her elder and queen

images and realised that she's quite pale on those... Comments? Brightfrost 17:16, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is very good, just blur the shading on her back more. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  12:04, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tried to blur the back shading as much as I could. And thanks :D Brightfrost 17:16, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is great!!! Try and blur the shading under her chin a bit more - I can't see anyhting else that needs improving. :D Mistyheart 17:21, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, blurred the chin shading a bit more :) Thanks Misty! Brightfrost 18:27, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

It's the other ear thats nicked in her elder picture. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:25, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Very nice! Just blur the shading on the haunch, back, chest and forehead, and blur all of the highlights a smidge. Darken and blur the ear pink, and, as Ashshadow said, it's the other ear that's nicked in the elder image. This is very good! B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  21:10, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Just blur the ear pink and shading some more.--  Night shine   ♥  02:45, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tried to fix the shading and the ear pink but the ear looks a bit.. yeah. And I'm pretty sure it's not her other ear nicked in the elder image:

Surely if she's facing the opposite way in this, then in the warrior image her nicked ear will be the 'front' ear? Thank you for your comments :) Brightfrost 07:40, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Brightfrost is right, the ear nick is the right way round because it's on the back ear when Goldenflower is facing this way > in her elder image, si it must be on the front ear when she is facing this way < in her warrior image. Now for comments: brilliant, but maybe blur the shading on her back some more. :) 86.178.230.33 16:13, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Brightfrost! I LOVE Goldenflower! Yeah her ear is on the correct side! XD I love the ear to! But try and delete the little black bit that goes onto the ear pink! Also the ear pink looks a bit far down the ear! Love it though! XD Fawnstorm 16:36, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yea sorry about the ear i saw a mirror image of the elder image. The earpink is oddly shaped. Try making it more centered. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:22, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, fixed the ear. Not sure about the back shading, it's giving me some grief. -sigh- Anyways, comments? Brightfrost 07:52, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the fur darker so it looks like her elder image? Evanphoto 13:01, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all of the shading and highlights. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:10, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Repeating above, and also, the ear pink looks dark. Can you lighten it to look more like her elder version? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:39, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Darkened the ear pink and blurred a bit- any better? And by the way, I was made a lovely siggy (it's on my talk page) but I'm unsure on how to use it as my siggy, exactly ;3 Brightfrost 16:47, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

The highlight on her haunch looks too bright. Darken and blur it a bit. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 17:02, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Having a bit of a problem darkening the haunch highlight, I've tried burning over the top of it but it makes it look a tad green, like this:

Her highlight is now green.... ✐S aN  dY  19:03, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I mean, I'm trying to darken that highlight but it goes green. It's a separate file though, I haven't saved over the current picture. (At the top) I was just showing everyone what it looks like when I try and darken it. -kicks stupid haunch- Why do you have to be so bright? D: Brightfrost 19:15, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

We've decided to not reserve characters that have not been shown in books yet, and that goes for ranks too. It wouldn't be fair. LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 00:46, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if you used the dodge tool to create the highlight then using the burn tool should reverse this. If it really won't work, paint over it and do it again. ✐S aN  dY  11:42, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

I like it, but the highlights are green :( Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:17, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

They're not, that's just an example of what happens when I use burn to try and darken the stupid highlights. -kicks haunch again- Brightfrost 13:20, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-tried to completely redo that annoying haunch. Any better? Does it still need to go a tad darker? Brightfrost 13:30, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Nightcloud (Q)-For Approval
Hey! It took me AGES to do this! XD So what do you guys think?? Fawnstorm 16:34, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

She's lovely. :) The only things that stick out is that the back could do with some shading, the nose needs to be colored in, and the shading on the belly needs to be blurred a bit. This is wonderful for your first (?) one, though. Great job. -- Bramble 16:39, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

I had to change the file name, though, as you uploaded the image over the warrior version. Please upload on this file name: Nightcloud.queen. Thanks. -- Bramble 16:41, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

This is wonderful! All I see is do what Bramble said and add ear pink. (: B  a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  16:44, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can't think what happened to the ear pink and the nose! Bet it was family! Anywho I reuploaded the image (Nightcloud.queen) and re-put on the ear pink and the um........nose pink. XD This is my first black queen Bramble :) I have done a tortoiseshell and white, a grey and a ginger and white. So yeah! Fawnstorm 17:01, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

She's lovely! Black cats are really hard and you made a fantastic job Fawny :D I can't really see anything that needs to be fixed! Brightfrost 17:09, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thanx Brightfrost! XD Fawnstorm 17:10, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks odd. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  22:43, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

make it a little larger and blur a little more.Җ Ѭ ѳ ѥ  ѯ 10:52, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

also make the ear pink darker. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:07, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

This is great Fawny, but maybe go over the ear pink - it looks a bit transparent, like the black is showing through. I can't see anything else that needs improving :) Mistyheart 10:19, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Repuloaded Sorry it has taken forever to finaly reuploaded it! Pls excuse me XD! I have to everything on the school Pc's and it has taken me like 10 minutes to uploaded her again! Anywho...........yeah..............I redid her! XD Fawnstorm 18:47, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, highlights, and ear pink a lot more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 18:57, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Repuloaded Thanks for the comment Nightfall XD! Any more?

Make the ear pink more of a reddish color-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:47, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her back a bit, but this is a brilliant black cat - I couldn't do a black cat to save my life. Mistyheart 08:28, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Repuloaded Okay! I did her again! I blurred the back sshading as much as I could. XD! Fawnstorm 10:27, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Socks (KP)-For Approval
Here's Ruby's littermate, Socks! He needs some work...comments? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  13:56, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, do we even need him as a kittypet? We have him as a kit with a collar, but we never saw him as a kittypet older than six moons. Just asking so if I'm wrong please don't get mad. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:06, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

When I had my Ruby (KP) up for approval, this was brought up, and other people said that yes, we would need kittypet images for them. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  14:08, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for not getting made at me :) On the image, I can't see anything wrong. P.S who here loves the snow day? M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 14:19, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

(For the record, I'm loving this snow day! We get off tomorrow and Friday too! And Monday! A six-day weekend!) Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  23:29, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and the tag is the same color as his collar. Make it yellow, like on his kit image-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:21, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened shading, yellowified tag (if that's a word...) Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:34, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's great, Moss. :) Now, darken the shading more then blur it. Ice  <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines!  01:08, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Tallpoppy(E)-For approval
Ta-da! Like? §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood. 22:25, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes dont look much like the ones on her queen version and you need to blur the shading and highlights more. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 22:28, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and stripes some more. The ear pink should be in the center of her ear.--  Night shine   ♥  22:41, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and stripes. The ear pink needs moved, the stripes don't look like her queen version, and the shading needs to be darker than the stripes. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  22:58, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

And the eyes need to be more yellow, like her queen version. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 23:00, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you never blured it,<font color="FF99FF">Lovepaw <font color="FF33FF">My Talk!  23:38, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood. 01:36, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the bits where you have used dodge, and fix the earpink like Nightshine said. This is good though. XD Mistyheart 16:14, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Remember that when you use the dodge tool, spread it out so it isn't too concentrated. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  23:26, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I agree. I might still only be an apprentice, but I think u need 2 spread out the dodge tool more (try the blurry size 70 thats what i use a lot) Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:11, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

It doesnt look like you changed anything. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 01:42, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

I did do the dodge tool like that Mouseheart. '''Reuploaded §₩1ƒ₮¥ Mice taste goooood. 12:38, February 12, 2010 (UTC)'''

The highlights still look pretty concentrated, and also, it looks like the stripes are soming off the shading, cna you make the shading darker than the stripes? Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:41, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Also you need to center the earpink. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 15:45, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

(I missed this) And the little dash on the chest is blurred a lot. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:49, February 12, 2010 (UTC

Really good Swifty! No offence or anything but she looks a bit like she has a plastic covering on!?! XD! Fawnstorm 16:52, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur th highlights to the max, thinin the tabby stripes and could you fix the blurred lineart? Ice <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines!  15:58, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Use dodge tool size 70 or 50 (the blurry ones; not the regular circle ones, if u know what im talking about) Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:11, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Heathertail (A) - For Approval
I saw Heathertail's stripes on her warrior version and I was like "Those stripes are so pretty! I must draw them!" So, here we are. Constructments? -- ♥ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ♥  17:59, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

It's beautiful! There aren't any stripes on three of her legs though. The front one closest to us is the only one with stripes-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:14, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Lol Hawktalon! She's awesome! Like Nighty said, there aren't any stripes on three legs. Also, I can't really see the ear pink. B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  21:23, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Added stripes and changed ear pink. There weren't any stripes on her warrior image's hind legs, so I didn't add them. Should I put the stripes there, anyway? -- ♥ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ♥  21:53, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

The pink ear is still a bit faint and there dosen't seem to be any strupes on the haunch paw nearest to us! This is really good though! XD! Fawnstorm 16:50, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed ear pink and added stripes. -- ♥ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ♥  17:11, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Try and add some to the forepaw nearest to us! I don't think I could to a cat like that to save StarClan! XD! Fawnstorm 16:19, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Added stripes (and happy valentines day, everyone!). -- ♥ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ♥  22:09, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

This looks really awesome, Hawktalon. Comments before approval? -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 22:55, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Hawktalon. This is really awesome, like icethroat said, but I think the ear needs 2 be more pink it sort of looks brown; I cant see it very well:( Beewing Buzz Like A Bee 02:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed ear pink. -- ♥ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ♥  15:22, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Could you make the ear pink not touch the lineart? ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  21:12, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - *sigh* Ear pink on apprentices are hard... -- ♥ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ♥  21:58, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Patchpelt (W)- for Approval
Take him down if he's over the limit, but I don't think he is. I think he's one of my better ones.Echoheart 11:45, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

The patches on his back and chest don't look much like the ones on his elder image...well they do, except on here they look very much connected, whereas his elder picture's ones are a little less touching...does that make any sense? Also, you might want to add a patch on his front leg...one the elder image you wouldn't see it if it was there. Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  15:38, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hello Echoheart! This is really good! There is a little grey smudge thingy on the patch that covers his face. It might just be me but if you can see it then I knoww I'm not going blind like Jayfeather! XD! Fawnstorm 16:48, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs blending and I can't see much shading. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:06, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is there anything else? Echoheart 20:40, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink lighter like his elder image-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:30, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

...Don't know if you saw my comment above there ;) Heartpath  Love, Jaggedclaw!  01:50, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

About your comment Mosspelt, which front leg? And about the image, it's reuploaded. Echoheart 11:52, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd say the front leg closest to us. The patches all need blurring a little more and the shading isn't visible on the white areas. ✐S  aN  dY  11:40, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Echoheart 19:06, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ivytail (W) - For Approval
Now, no madder what, I don't want this deleted. I will work on this one, instead of quititing like before. Silver thistle  21:14, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

not bad but you need to put for approval in the title and A stands for apprentice not warrior. Either fix that or change the blank.The arm looks a bit odd, try connectin the color. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 21:18, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

I've fixed the header. (: This is good, but your patches look a bit strange, and the white on the chest needs to be blurred. I also don't see much shading. B  a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  21:24, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, she looks nothing like her queen image. You chose a pale yellow color for the tortoiseshell parts instead of ginger. And the white part is way to big, it needs to be smaller -

-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:19, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

If you're using pixlr, use colordropper. oh,and i'm doing Ivytail's apprentice version, so you know, be mistaken or something. ≈Ivy -sama≈  03:30, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

I used that image when I made the charart! Geese, what did I do?! Why don't you tell me how to make it then? Ah? Silver thistle  21:14, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Calm down, there's no need to lose your temper. You need to use the eye dropper tool to make the patches the same color as the queen version; also make them smaller and more separated. Shrink the white on her belly a bit and blur it. We'll go from there. -- Bramble 22:21, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh... ok. I'm using Icethroats Tortishell 2 on her tutorial, is that ok? I'm sorry, but Nightfall just makes me angry. Please don't let him/her comment about this. Oh, and thanks. Im editing it now. Silver thistle  02:07, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think it's alot more better. I just need to smudge the colors a bit, right? Silver thistle  03:01, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

You dont need the yellowish color for patches and you forgot to add the earpink. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 03:27, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded They're. I like it, but I think I should smudge them a bit. Should I? (Yes's or no's?) Silver  thistle  05:50, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should blur them, not smudge them LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 09:13, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  I said I didn't want any of your comments on here, Nightfall! errr... I did what I thought I needed. And yes I did blur them, are you pleased Lovefall? Who's Nightfall. Silver thistle  15:22, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Night: The should look somewhat smudged. silverthistle: You put work up for everyone to comment on. Imagewise the color of her patches still looks too yellow to me. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 16:41, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, calm down, Silverthistle. Nightfall did nothing to you, no need to harrass her. And Ashshadow's right, you put up images for everyone to comment on. Image-wise, there seem to be a bit too many patches, or the patches are too big. B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  17:41, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Enough. I have struck the attacks against Nightfall and don't expect to see any more. If you don't like her fine, but there's no need for disrespect or a disregard for her comments.

As for the image - I think it's lacking the smooth finish of the queen version. You need to blow it up to about 800% and take the blur tool and very carefully blend all the patches and shading. Also, I don't think you've quite got the brownish-orange right. ✐S aN  dY  17:52, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

What in the world did I say to make you so mad? I meant absolutely no offence at all! And Ashshadow is right, I'am just trying to help you get the image approved LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 21:25, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Oh Silverthistle,for the color of the orange patches,use color dropper near the bottom of the block,and make the patches smaller.I'll show you my apprentice picture,if you like. ≈Ivy -sama≈  10:58, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I didn't harass her. If I did, I would have: caused extreme and/or countiueous annoyence or threats. Which I did neither. I do think you deserve a proper apolige Nightfall, so I am deeply sorry for my awful behavior. Do you accept? *holds breath* Silver  thistle  17:35, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I accept :) -- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 21:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (A) - For Approval


Gawd, my worst attempt at copying an image ever. Alright, so, I looked at Hawkfrost's picture, and I'm like "OMG How can such an evil cat look so awesome???" So I decided to make his apprentice image. I have two versions, the first one is the best in my opinion. So, which do you guys think is better? Comments? B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  21:21, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

I like the first one, but I think you should make the white underbelly go higher up, you can barely see it. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:32, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

So, make it go up as high as #2, or lower than that? B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  22:01, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

AS high as #2 sounds good. <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 22:03, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good. Can you make the earpink a little bit smaller. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:49, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Not a fail at all! Yes, the first one, and adding to above comments: either darken the shading a little or add a little highlight along the middle of his pelt. He looks awesome! Heartpath Love, Jaggedclaw!  17:20, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

All right, first one it is. I'll make the ear pink smaller, make the white underbelly go up higher, and add a highlight to the middle of the pelt. B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  19:15, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - How is he now? B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  19:30, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good! i think the white should come up more towards his back a little more.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:11, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

So you mean the white near the haunch should come up more? B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  15:00, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Rose (KP) -For Approval
Well, tell me how bad this is. Angel Paw  11:58, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

It's not bad at all! Fill in the white pixel (on her neck), and blur the highlights. Maplefern May StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 13:07, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is beatiful! <font color="FF99FF">Lovepaw <font color="FF33FF">My Talk!  13:45, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

It's very nice! Well done! Just fill that white pixel. Wetty What do you mean they only had 31 flavors?! 14:29, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! However, the markings on the front and back legs are way different in length. Shorten and blur the front leg markings (http://chinkisiamese.com/siamese_cats_chelsea.jpg) Dark hallows 06:03, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Um the markings are similar to the markings on Lily but I will fix the white pixel tomorrow. Angel Paw  21:58, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Rosetail (W)- For Approval
Bluestar's BFF forever! Well, here she is. My first tabby in forever. Comments? ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  15:36, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great to me. There's a little dot of shading on her lower chest, though, that needs to be blurred a bit. -- Bramble 16:38, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a little faint. Darken it a bit. -- ♥ĦĄω ĸ†ɑ  £ƟȠ♥  17:38, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''And Bramble, the 'dot' is actually the start of a tabby stripe on her chest. I got that from her elder pic. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  22:00, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Whitewing (A) - For Approval
This is my first charart, Whitewing as an apprentice! I had a little trouble with the blurring (running into the lines XP). Comments?-- Snowflight  1  Snowflight + Finchfeather 4ever!!  19:15, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is pretty good! Just try blurring the shading more. The ear pink is fine--  Night shine   ♥  19:23, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I blurred the shading. I think the first one is better :P. -- Snowflight  1  Snowflight + Finchfeather 4ever!!  19:46, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Just blur the shading on her back a bit more and it should be good--  Night shine   ♥  19:49, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I blurred the shading on the back. How is it?-- Snowflight  1  Snowflight + Finchfeather 4ever!!  20:05, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, but it looks a bit more gray than white. Try lightening the entire image some with the dodge tool. -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 22:30, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I lightened it. How is she?-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  15:19, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Clovertail (R) - for approval


Wow, its been 2 months I think since I've done an image, so the image is probably not that good. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 20:03, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

This isnt bad. I would make the white on her front legs go up higher and darken the earpink. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 21:17, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the background pink?-- M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 19:12, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Pink? I don't know, its white on my computer/gimp. <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 21:14, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

It's a very light pink. I can make it transparent if you want. Dark hallows 23:23, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: And yes, could you do that for me Shady? <span style="color:Blue; background:White; fontfamily:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Gold;">ChelseaFC 20:49, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Nettlepaw - For Approval


Not a lot to say. Constructments? Bramble 22:49, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

It's really good! Lighten the ear pink a bit--  Night shine   ♥  22:52, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Great job. i agree with nightshinne. i can hardly see the earpink but i my eyesight sucks. Also, this is jut out if curiousity: do you need to do shading for the really dark cats? Great job.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:11, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Artimas: Yes you do =) See Tigerstar, Brambleclaw and any black cat you can think of. Bramble: Nothing to add. Brilliant as usual =) ✐S  aN  dY  16:32, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thank Sandy. :) The ear pink has been lightened. Any other comments? Bramble  20:18, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes: CBA? ✐S  aN  dY  19:01, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Pinestar (KP) For Approval
Ah, finally, my computer is working again! I had finished him the day I reserved him, but at that time we didn't have these rules so the page was always really cluttered, and I never got time to put him up. Anyways, comments?

This is awesome! Make his eyes a bit darker--  Night shine   ♥  00:49, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I darkened eyes, and I also erased the weird blob on his tag-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 00:54, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little. Dark hallows 05:58, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit. M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 16:48, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

There's like a square-ish blob of fur underneath the collar tag. B a  t  w  i  n  g   ♥  20:49, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Okay, I blurred the shading. As for the ear pink, I got it from his leader image. Do you want me to darken it anyway? And about the blob of fur under his tag, that's his chest. I'm not sure why they aren't on the short-haired blanks though.-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 01:50, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

It's not on Graystripe's kittypet version for approval above. ♪  B  a  t   ♫  22:15, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Snowbird (W)- For Approval
I've been bored lately ang Golden kit just got approved. Comments ? Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 18:51, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

It is good! Add eye color. -- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  18:53, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

There is eye color. Her queen pic has pretty dark eyes but I can lighten them if needed. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 18:58, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed after I posted. I think that it would be good to lighten them.-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  19:00, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 19:11, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

This actually looks perfect to me. Nice work =) ✐S  aN  dY  20:06, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy. Does this mean not to make the changes above? Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:30, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * My opinion is no more important than anyone else's, and if they think changes are needed then by all means comply. I just thought I'd show my appreciation. =) ✐S  aN  dY  19:00, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks everybody. Darkened the shading and lightened the eye color. Anything else? Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 19:55, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's better. I think it's perfect now. :) -- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  20:21, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (ki) - for approval


OMG he stinks... M I N N O W C L A W O'MALLEY THE ALLEY CAT! 19:09, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Can you bring the white chest up some and maybe anke it a tiny bit thicker. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 19:11, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * The white chest should extend upwards more and make a kind of circularish patch. ✐S  aN  dY  20:05, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

And make his eyes more icy blue. They look a bit dark-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 22:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Lionheart (Ki) - For Approval
Since there's one discussion topic, this should be fine to post as it's the 35th image, but if I need to take it down I will. This is my first tabby kit, and I'm still horrible at tabbies, so let me know whatever I can do to improve this. :) -- Ic et hr o at   Happy  Valen  tine's   Day! 19:37, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

This is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G! Blur the stripes near the edges a touch. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 21:26, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any better? (By the way, I love your new siggie Maplefern.) -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 22:20, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I can't see anything else now. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:27, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should thin the lines on the forehead. Other than that, it's awesome!-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  22:33, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. This better? -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 22:46, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should define the lines on the forehead a little bit more. It's still awesome!-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  23:07, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

...How should I do that? -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 00:56, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Use the body color and erase the blurring. Then blur it again, but not as much. Then you could use the burn tool again to do the shading if it got messed up.-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  00:59, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this any better? -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 21:34, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Mousefur (Ki) - For approval
Evanphoto 00:47, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink brighter, and she looks crosseyed. Dark hallows 01:01, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, I can barely see it. Ice <font color="#CC0000">Happy Valentines!  01:05, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 15:00, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there's something at the bottom of the right paw. It might be my computer though. It's like a little gray spot under the paw.-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  20:15, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 20:54, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Brindleface (Q) - For Approval
Here she is! This was a lot of fun to make :D--  Night shine   ♥  00:50, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

The Yellowfang thing is a discussion--  Night shine   ♥  00:51, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Center the earpink and darken the stripes on her tail. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 00:56, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded fixed ear pink and darkened tail--  Night shine   ♥  01:07, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Night shine, this is ''beautiful! ''1) What program do you use? and 2) Comments before Approval? LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 01:48, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I use MS paint to draw the designs then I use GIMP to do the blurring and shading/highlighting--  Night shine   ♥  02:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Its wonderful! But I would lessen the amount of stripes on her neck. :). Other then that, awesome? (BTW, is there an extra line on her back foot?) -Owlblaze Oakstar 02:36, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean about the back foot? It would be really hard to lessen the neck stripes.--  Night shine   ♥  02:41, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the stripes do need lessening. They're on her warrior image - Brindleface. LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 02:49, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'd add one more stripe, just on the haunch. It seems bare. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 21:30, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Added stripe to the haunch--  Night shine   ♥  22:40, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Would anyone be interested....
In a list of long-furred/short-furred cats?

I was going through the books and was surprised which cats it mentioned as 'long haired' 'fluffy' or 'thick furred'... Dark hallows 01:00, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's a good idea!-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:13, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this is a really good idea! -- Icy -chan Olympics  of   2010!! 21:37, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

An unofficial list is fine (sub-page off your user), but an official list isn't needed. Archiving in due time. Bramble 21:57, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Moss, husker, Splash, and their kits
i was wondering since these barn cats were loners but at the end of Warrior's Refuge the Twolegs take them in, should we do kittypet pictures for them? It is most likely that they becae kittypets and are now living with those twolegs. i don't know if this is accurate or not so....?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 02:16, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

I wish I could answer this. The only manga I've read is The Rise of Scourge and the first Tigerstar and Sasha book--  Night shine   ♥  02:21, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's a very good point. I read that, (I don't own it, just read it) but I don't remember if they really officially took them in, or if it was implied. Did it say that they were going to live with the twolegs? LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 02:51, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

At the end of the book Graystripe and Millie left them with the twolegs who were petting and playing with them. Graystripe told Husker he and his family could be safe now with the twolegs. It seemed likely that the barn cas joined the twolegs. I just remembered Moss, Husker and Splash were kittypets at first so they should have kittypet teempletes but I think the kits were born as barncats. It was pretty obvious that the cats went to live with the twolegs afterwords though. But it didn't say right out "And Husker and his family became kitypets." -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 17:12, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Due to the fact that they were loners to begin with, we never saw them as kittypets (unless you count the flashback, which we won't), and their status with the Twolegs was never confirmed, we don't need kittypet images for them. Archiving this in due time. Bramble 21:56, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderheart (A)- For Approval


This is Cinderheart as an apprentice for approval. I've been working on it with Minnowclaw (my mentor) for awhile now and I'd love for all sorts of comments. Thanks! Spottedheart <font color=Magenta style=background:Purple>Happy Valentine’s Day! 17:53, February 15 2010 (UTC)

Run the brush tool over the tabby stropes then blur, darken shading then blur, fix the eye and blurred lineart. Then do the eye like here Ice  storm  17:56, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Cover the little strip of fur not shaded on the back.-- Snowflight  1  Happy V-Day!!  20:17, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This looks a bit small and is also the 36th image. NVM Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 20:23, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Really beautiful Spotty!! Just do what all teh other users said and maybe blur teh ear pink a bit more. Other than that I love it!

21:14, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add eye white, and she doesn't have a white underbelly, it's gray-- LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 22:15, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't the right size it should be. It looks too blurry--  Night shine   ♥  22:39, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Rippletail(A)--For Approval
I feel so sorry for him, so I did his apprentice charart. Comments? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:18, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Just make a few stripes longer and redden and center the ear pink.--  Night shine   ♥  22:42, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Archive for Discussions?
Should we make an archive for discussions instead of just deleting them? ♪  B  a  t   ♫  23:03, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

We do have an archive for them. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:05, February 15, 2010 (UTC)