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Feathertail (Apprentice Alt 2) ~ CBA
I'm absolutely proud :) All colours from the alt star. Comments? CloudymoonTheCat

You should be proud! Define the shading on the tail and paws? 18:33, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth shading a little on the shoulder back and haunch, add some to the forelegs and hindlegs farthest from us and soften the stripes, maybe add a handful more if you're able. This is very good! SquidwardPlays 18:47, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smoothen the stripes some too? 18:51, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Screams bc I keep forgetting to mention things. Sharpen the gold on the shoulder and foreleg a little, and there's waste between the whiskers. SquidwardPlays 18:52, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Is it better? CloudymoonTheCat

<-- this hind leg needs more white, there's a lot on the warrior alt. Also friendly reminder to upload under File:Feathertail.apprentice.alt2.png. It was misspelled earlier (it's fixed now)Potato Flakin (talk) 23:15, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm and the stripe placement would end up matching the warrior, as would everything else to it, since the warrior's the first in the set. Would you mind adding some white/very pale gray hairs up into the earpink, to match the set? I also think there'd be more, but thinner, stripes on the tail. You're doing excellent with this, by the way

Could you define/add some more stripes on the front paw furthest from us and the back paw furthest from us? And add some cream to the hind paw furthest from us too. 03:25, January 10, 2019 (UTC)

Nice image overall. I'll promote you into an apprentice.

Reups CloudymoonTheCat

Could you maybe blur the white a little bit on her right front paw? -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝    𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣    𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~     𝕚'𝕞 𝕠𝕟 𝕒 𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~   [ 13:42, 1/10/2019 ]

Sure, I'll do it when I'll come home :) CloudymoonTheCat

Reups :) CloudymoonTheCat

Could you define the shading overall, especially on the gray? 22:03, January 10, 2019 (UTC)

I do think there'd need to be more visible pale parts on the belly and haunch, alt. warrior seems to have them, and that's first in set

Reups any better? CloudymoonTheCat

Also I'm not going to be able to work on it till tomorrow morning (UTC time) CloudymoonTheCat

The shading seems blotchy, for a lack of a better word. It seems to be darker in places and non-existent where it should be (for example the legs). It's also overblurred in places.

Reupsss CloudymoonTheCat

Can you darken the shading on the forelegs please. 13:00, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light source on the inside hind leg. Your doing great! ^^ 13:57, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded CloudymoonTheCat

Can you define the shading depth on all the legs? I think the stripes on the face need to be connected to the eyes too. Might be my eyes, but there appears to be leaky shading on the back. On the hind leg closest to us, maybe move the white so it's against the line art of the haunch? it looks a little off in the middle like it is. It also appears less soft on the warrior. You've done a great job on this so far!! 21:23, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reups :) CloudymoonTheCat

The base looks a bit too light, could you darken it a bit? Sharpen the white too. 01:03, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes a bit to match the roughness the ones on the other images have, if you would

On the front paws, the white doesn't match the placement portrayed on the star, and it's leaking a bit. —​​​​

Reups --CloudymoonTheCat 08:16, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Can you sharpen the white a bit more? might be my eyes, but it looks like it hasn't changed at all. 16:44, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, any specific places it should be sharpened? --CloudymoonTheCat 20:26, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

For reference. The red is where the white should be on the paw if you're following the star's pattern of having white underarms, blue is where the white is leaking, and green is where the white needs to be sharpened. —​​​​

Ok, thanks! --CloudymoonTheCat 10:50, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Reups yep yep :) --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat 12:35, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

We should hardly be able to see white on the shoulder looking at the other alts, and there's too much white on <- side of the haunch. you're getting there! <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 14:57, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Reups --<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">CloudymoonTheCat 16:12, January 16, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the hind paw furthest from us? 13:17, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I'll do it when my brother will give me the computer --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 20:23, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded--<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 09:20, January 18, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 04:51, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think the stripes should be sharpened, and the shading on the -> front leg should be defined. There should be shading on the face and remove some of the shading on all the paws so they don't look so gray.

Reups --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 11:48, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

The blob of white on the hindleg closest to us looks off and I believe still that the shoulder white should be lessened to just barely be visible upon looking at her other two TUG alts. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 17:30, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean about the hind leg... Should I sharpen the white or remove it? --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 19:34, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

Remove. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 19:59, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the > back white paw, as well

Reups There you go --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 11:40, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

Define it again? It still looks very flat

Reups I accidently thought you meant the back paw farthest from us before... --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 16:25, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

The highlights are making the base color look way lighter than the alt star. The stripes also look like they've been run through a sharpen filter or something, making them look strangle pixelated. And the shading, especially on the back and head, is so dark the pattern and coloring is getting lost. Where's your light source coming from?

It's coming from the top right, though when I started this I wasn't sure what a light source is, so I might have to fix some of the shading :/ --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 08:20, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Reups I hope it's not too dark now --<font color="#bc1d64" face="Segoe Script" >CloudymoonTheCat 17:42, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

I know you were just told to lighten it, but could you define the shading depth on all the legs and paws (excluding the hind one closer to us, that looks good) on the front leg closest to us it looks like it's coming from the front of the body, but given the rest of the placement, it should be on the back of the leg. This is turning out great! 14:39, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Thank you Patch! :) --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    17:52, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

hmm doesn't appear you reuploaded? 01:16, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry my bad, I'll actually reupload when I'll come home. --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    07:26, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Reups --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    13:23, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Great job. Comments before approval? 21:22, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

The shading's still too dark in some places, most noticeably the top of the head, back, and the whole tail. It makes the pattern gets lost and makes the base color seem darker than it should be. Your shading doesn't seem to match the light source If the light source is coming from the top right, the top of the head should have very little shading on it, but it's one of the darkest points currently. The chest and legs also look like they're lit from the left, not the right. The tail and the front leg closest to us also look flat because the shading is overblurred there, the light needs to be more defined.

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean, could you possibly redline? --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    08:18, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, but what exactly were you wanting a redline of? The shading locations, or just circling the areas I'm talking about? Would it be ok if I sent it to you in discord?

Reups I completely re-made the shading --<span title="Spottedleaf shouldn&lt;span data-rte-entity=" style="">' t die" data-rte-attribs=" style= title=Spottedleaf shouldn't die"&gt; Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    19:05, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light a lil more on back leg furthest from the tail? --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    04:36, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reups btw if anyone could help me my signature is acting weird --  Cloudymoon      cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    08:57, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Comments before vote? 15:48, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

What does that stands for? Was it supposed to be CBA? --  Cloudymoon      cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    16:24, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry. Comments before approval? 16:51, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

...I feel really bad for breaking this, but the stripes on the haunch don't match Sun's master pattern (shown first on the warrior's haunch, transferred to the toeh alt from this side). The light should also be defined on the back paws

Reups this is impossible to match her pattern perfectly, since the pose is different. I tried, tho -- 07:11, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

could you dull the highlights/lighten the shading a little bit? 04:03, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Just now noticed my shading opacity was on 100... Idk how I survived with that. -- 09:41, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 22:21, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Leader Blanks - For Approval
Uploading on my personal for now since its easier to work with. I plan on fluffing up the longhaired tail...which as I look at my cats the tails are slightly too long and I'll fix that next upload as well. <span style="">16:54 Sun Jan 20 2019

Cool! Can you shrink the ears by the smallest amount and make em more pointy? I love this BreezeyPotato&#61;) (talk) 17:46, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add whiskers? :) 18:14, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

I'd think Breezey would add the whiskers once everything else is all said and done, mainly because that seems like the least important thing, compared to making sure the anatomy and whatnot (read: floof) is correct. =P ​​

The shorthair's tail is a bit lumpy, could you make it more consistent in width? It's mostly where the tail curls Eggheart (talk) 22:07, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

I think the tails could be shortened a tad, it might be just me but they seem pretty long. 22:12, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

im gonna be the one who says it fluff those longhair tails up lul 22:19, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Can you make the lineart around the eyes more even? 22:20, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the lineart on the longhair's chest furPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:44, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Make the eyes a bit rounder. 03:12, January 21, 2019 (UTC)

Paws look big for the legs, and make the jaws evenPotato&#61;) (talk) 02:57, January 23, 2019 (UTC)

Paws look fine to me Malina457 (talk) 17:43, January 23, 2019 (UTC)malina

The ears look a bit big for a “standard” kitty. Maybe shrink them a wee bit. Seems more like an oriental build when looking at those ears anatomy wise. ​​​​​​ <span style="">21:24, 01/23/2019

Please read comments before and my own before commenting. <span style="">2:07 Thu Jan 24 2019

I'm not 100% sure that was necessary, Breezey. There's a lot of comments on this and it's possible other comments hadn't been seen. ​​​​​​​

Oop didnt see the ear comment before mine. But taking a second look, the faces (at least on the shorthair) cpuld be rounded out a tiny bit more ​​​​ <span style="">17:54, 01/24/2019

No rush, you have all the time you need, but are you still working? 08:57, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah. Just not happy with the edits I did yet. Hopefully I'll have them up this weekend. <span style="">2:41 Thu Jan 31 2019

Reuploaded. [insert aliens meme but it says fluff] <span style="">0:00 Tue Feb 5 2019

Maybe make the ear on our left match the ear on the right a bit more? I know theyre not facing 100% foward but it still looks off. I love these breezey <span style="">00:18, 02/5/2019

I think they're fine. If I make them look the same they look weirder. Its just very small, even a pixel or two makes them look off. <span style="">1:24 Tue Feb 5 2019

The lineart on the short hair tail looks kinda rough. Can you smooth it out? 01:26, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Where? <span style="">1:46 Tue Feb 5 2019

I think particularly the tip of the tail.

The shorthair tails seem just a tiny bit long still. Longhair tails are fine. That fluff oh my god

The faces of the short hairs taper off too much towards the chin, and their faces look too narrow. The long-hair's face is perfect in that regards (and cute!!). 16:41, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Spikefur (Star) ~ CBA
whoo, finally finished this in like an hour lmao I got all colors from the apprentice, as well as the spike style. He looks like my grandpa lol 04:25, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Glad he has the cite now lol. Define facial shading Potato&#61;) (talk) 04:49, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups, it's at 100 now. 05:24, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. Also, if you get asked to define the shading, you can always create extra layers of shading to define it. ​​​

Andd.. I'm going to ask to define the shading and add more depth to it.

12:39, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups, hopefully the depth is better, Ari. If not mind giving me a redline of where the depth needs defined. 08:57, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The depth is good, but it still needs smoothing out. The edges should be a bit more of a gradient, and this is fairly blotchy. ​​

Re-Ups 18:58, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not seeing much of a difference, could you smooth it more?

lightening it may help. 05:30, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups. 00:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Warrior blanks ~ For Approval
19:15, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Love these! The head looks a bit off though. Sorry if you don't understand this but it's hard to explain: Try connecting the <-- line from the head to the body. Then make the <-- side of the muzzle curve upward a bit and the chin protrude from that line. Basically shapen the muzzle/face a little more. Here's a red line 19:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Obligatory redline from me. —​​​

The short-haired’s tail is very uneven and almost looks crooked. Please make the entire tail even and smooth. 20:00, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Longhair's back foot is a little chubby, and the noses should be expanded in size a tad *looks at cat for reference*Potato&#61;) (talk) 20:27, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. will update longhair shortly, can't now because my latop is about to die and i don't feel like walking to get the charger. 20:31, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

There are some random lines on the shorthair's head that don't make sense, and there's waste outside --> this ear on said blankPotato&#61;) (talk) 21:41, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Could you specify which lines? Not sure if you are heading about the whiskers over the eyes. It's a preference of mine but i can remove them if necessary. 22:13, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

The lines coming off the ears. I can send a perfect screenie if needed. Now on to homework lolPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:33, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Those are whiskers. —

(Apologies for double comment; just got on my pc LOL) Here's a redline for the face. I don't necessarily think the perspective would change the level of the eyes, and I think they should be leveled out to be on the same line. Also, the muzzle needs to be a bit more rounded ish? Something like this maybe. When sketching cat heads, this is always what I do so maybe that'll help level out the head. —

Minor, but could you add a line on the shorthair going down the chest to represent the little floof of hair on the center of their chest. 22:51, January 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. happier with the long hairs fur now. 00:23, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Make them a bit bigger. 00:28, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the line for the right cheek down closer to the nose? —

Re-uploaded. noticed the back didn't match. 00:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. tweaking the longhair shortly. 00:53, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the short haired's linear art too thick?

Yeah the lineart should only be about 2 pixels thick i believe ​​​​ <span style="">01:34, 01/28/2019

I don't think there's a specific ruling for lineart thickness, but compared to the longhairs fluff it may look thicker. I personally think it's fine tho. —

Just me, but it looks like the shorthair is larger?? Malina457 (talk) 03:33, January 28, 2019 (UTC)malina

The shorthair is larger, I haven't updated the longhair's size yet. 04:25, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

The thickness should be consistent across the long haired and the short haired, at least. I still think the short haired linear art is too thick.

Re-uploaded. that was a nightmare... all the lineart or are there any particular spots that are too thick? 05:22, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. found a few spots i thought i had fixed on the shorthair. 05:31, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

dunno how to exacty word it but the muzzle looks too centered for the angle of the face. something's just a bit off about it. 09:16, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps shorten/erase the muzzle lines to make the style more consistent with the other blanks? Also, I think the linear art is too thick on the short haired, especially on the back.

I feel like adding a shoulder on each blank would be beneficial. The backs seem kind of flat without them. 14:13, January 28, 2019 (UTC)

Here's a reference for the muzzle. I think it's fine to have them stylized like what Patch is going for. Our blanks have a wide variety of styles and the StarClan blanks had the same issue of "match the blank styles" and in the end that got overruled. I think they just need some anatomy fixes but the style is fine. —

Re-uploaded. 02:05, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded again. 03:32, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Can you align the right cheek line down to the nose? Looking good. —

these are look amazing! the only thing i see is that the 'catbrows' make them look a bit angry, could you fix that? 12:36, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I can't tell if they still look angry, but hopefully this is better. 15:55, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The shorthairs tail could be thinned a bit. looks too chub to me for a tail <span style="">17:44, 01/29/2019

Re-uploaded. 18:01, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

I'm now asking this for a 5th time since my comment on this seems to keep getting ignored: can you please move the line that indicates the --> cheek down to align with the nose? —

Re-uploaded. looking back at your comments; didn't see it the first time, second time i misunderstood what you meant, i'm sorry if it seemed like i was ignoring you. Is this what you meant? 21:34, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

All good o/ This is what I mean, cheeks on a cat generally start protruding after the nose, kinda like this guy. (Though he is a bit chubby) —

They still look angry, change the position of the head whiskersPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:56, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The head whiskers are honestly fine... I'm not sure why the expression seems to be an issue. ​

Re-uploaded. ah ok i see i was being stupid, don't mind me lmao. 01:06, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

This is super nitpicky, but maybe fill in the space between the hind foot and the shoulder to front arm in with white? Only since there should be acknowledgement to the other haunch and foot that we can't see, but I don't know if that's 100% necessary. —

The line for the shoulder should be able to connect to the elbow, if that makes any sense - or the elbow should curve outwards. Also, the fluff on the haunch starting there protruding looks somewhat off on the longhair. Could you maybe add some tufts of fur above? 08:50, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

The muzzles still seem a bit off... I'm unsure if it's a neglect of a perspective but it keeps not looking right to me. It may be easier if you center the face rather than having them facing away, since the way it looks right now, it's as if you drew the muzzle in the center of the face, moved it over, then added lines to connect it to the side of the face, is the only way I can describe it bluntly. —

could yo make it so that the fur on the long haired blank's back doesn't appear so... suddenly? like maybe have a more visible transition 10:38, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I fixed these problems but i don't know if I'll be able to reupload today because my laptop is being annoying. I didn't touch the muzzles though, I'd rather not mess with them anymore then i have. Call me bias for working on the blank, but i really dont see it necessary and think they look fine.

16:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I think the muzzles are fine as they are. These blanks are beautiful I can’t wait to use them! <span style="">16:20, 01/30/2019

Sorry, but I agree with Echo about the muzzle. The perspective seems incorrect and they still look a tad off. 16:18, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Not to be nitpicky, but these are the warrior blanks. We're going to be making over 600 images with them. The muzzle may look fine to you and its "unnecessary" to change them, but these images are literally going to become wwiki's staple and that's why I've been so particular with your anatomy. I've studied cat anatomy for years and I'm trying to use my knowledge to help you since this blank is literally going to become wwiki's namesake, just as the last blanks were. Everh critique is necessary. —

I'm quite aware of that, but I don't agree with you on the muzzle and I would appreciate a few more opinions on it. 18:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to quickly slip in to state that I agree with Echo on the muzzles, and that i also think the ear lineart could use a tad smoothing while i'm at it. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 18:35, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

To add onto my critique, you blanks have their face at a 3/4ths position, meaning the right cheek and eyes will be more defined than the left eye and cheeks. Here's a redline of a real life example of a cat at that angle. The face should flow together, not in a perfect circle, and I think the face shape, eyes and muzzle are whats throwing off the perspective and proportions. —

hmm. it was always meant to be somewhat offcenter, from the first sketches I'd had. not negating anything just pointing out the concept for this, and it's changed a lot since those early stages, but y'know

I think the position of the head shouldn't be changed (it should still face away from the center because that's part of the pose), but the muzzle could use some tweaking.

Re-uploaded. 19:15, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

The muzzles are still off. Echo provided a redline earlier, can you follow that one? The muzzle lines seem really flat when they should be more rounded for a lack of better words. 05:06, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Messed around with the muzzle, it looks odd whenever i alter it too much, hope this is good. Also changed a few things on the longhair's tail. 14:35, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

extremely minor, but could you make it so that the whiskers protrude from the middle of the muzzle and not from the edge? 05:10, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 15:20, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the lineart thicker in the ears? 17:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

And with the right ear on the longhair, it looks like some of the ear lineart extends past the head. Can you get rid of that? 17:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe give me a screenshot of the spot on the ear? I don't see any lineart going past the head. 17:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Here you go. Is that on purpose? 17:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:45, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the inner ear lineart? 01:27, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 05:54, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

could you make the short haired tail lie flat instead? 04:02, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

i agree w burnt ^^ to keep consistent with the longhair <span style="">04:49, 02/5/2019

Not sure if this is just me but does the long-haired's leg seem a bit too thick?

Pretty much all the critiques I have are to do with the anatomy and perspective. I found two refs, one for the body and one for the head, which seem to match very closely to this pose. I made a redline (rainbowline) here. Here's the explanations for each color:

Red: This kind of goes against some of the critique you've already gotten, but the shoulders are way too defined. Especially in poses like this, you can just barely make out where they are. Shoulder that are too defined tend to look attached on like a toy rather than being part of the body. If you remove the lines marked in red, that should help a ton.

Dark blue: The back should arc a lot more in this kind of sitting position. The original warrior had the same issue, so it'd be really nice to fix it in this version. And if you look at the area above the shoulders, the flatness there before it starts curving also helps give the shoulders form without making them look attached on.

Light blue: Similar to the shoulders, the haunch is a bit too defined. It also seems like it's behind the front leg nearest to us, which seems rather odd for this kind of pose. Might seem more natural to move it in front of the front leg instead.

Yellow: Usually you can't easily make out a clear chest area dividing the two front legs, but if you choose to keep that line, it definitely needs to be moved up higher. I tried to mark where that chest area is on the ref, but it kind of blended in, you might have to zoom in close to see it.

Orange: The muzzle is a bit small right now and doesn't seem to follow the form of the face. If you make the --> lip a good bit wider that should help, and maybe also make the <-- lip just a tiny bit wider too? I marked it on the ref so you can see how the form kind of wraps around the face.

Dark green: It seems like the head's tilted ever so slightly downwards, not up, so the jaw seems to big right now and like it's jutting out. This differs a bit from the ref since the ref is looking up a bit.

Pink: This is very minor but maybe increase the size of the nose by 1-2 pixels? It's a bit small right now, and will seem even more so if you change the muzzle.

Light green: The perspective is off on the <-- eye, if you look at the ref it's almost all the way to the cheek, with hardly any space between.

Purple: The <-- ear needs to be moved up so that the top lines up with the other ear. The perspective of the head being slightly turned wouldn't make the ear move down much. However the perspective does make that ear thinner than --> one, so maybe thin it out a bit.

Sorry for the wall of text. Message me in discord if anything's unclear.

Re-uploaded. longhair will be tweaked shortly. 21:00, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I love these so much ahhh. the shorthairs tail needs to be thinned again though, but these are getting so close feel it <span style="">21:39, 02/5/2019

Dawncloud (Alt Star) ~ For Approval
Yes I know the pattern is different, I had already finished this a couple days ago but didn't post it. I'll reupload when I get the chance.

Do you have to match owl's pattern or? (Not a big fan of her's but still) Malina457 (talk) 02:50, January 29, 2019 (UTC)malina

Malina, that is rude to say that you do not like her pattern. Star also said that she would be reuploading to match the pattern. 02:52, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

The have to match the first put up. 02:53, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Was just my tired opinion, I did apologize to them Malina457 (talk) 03:15, January 29, 2019 (UTC)malina

can you lighten the eyes? they are on alkl the other images, a light blue.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 00:09, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

I believe eye color does not matter on alts (see Crowfrost's alts)Potato&#61;) (talk) 00:16, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

imo they should match the main images. There's no reason why they shouldn't. ​​

Eye colour shouldn't deviate from the written description in my opinion. I don't typically match my eye colour when doing alts, but I try to stick to whatever is cited. In this case, since she has no cited eye colour I think this colour would be okay, but lightening it couldn't hurt since they do look really dark. And regardless, they should match Owlbite's queen, so if Owlbite's queen has lighter eyes, they should match that since they're in the same set. —

Still working?

re-up yee. bye bye ticked tabby.

Shading is making the earpink turn dark purple, can you fix thatPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:50, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I actually think its fine. Shading colour is artist's choice. —

Define the shading, especially on the back. 20:10, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I'll reupload later, but why would I need to define it on the back?

Hm maybe my working was wrong. Flank/back, because to me, it is not visible. 15:48, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

the facial stripes should be a W, not a V. <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 22:36, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

re-up didn't see that, will reupload later

Haven't calibrated my screen yet, so this may just be me, but the shading looks almost pitch black, can you lighten it? —

Tabby rogue (Ro) - For Approval
Oh no Hawkey, another experimental style? xD 16:17, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

It turned out good. Can you define the earpink? 16:20, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. The two stripes on the face, as well as the three on the haunch, slightly fall into issue with the triangle tabby thing. Could you try tweaking them slightly to not be so? Small touches would do it

Might I ask for an example of a "triangle tabby" so I can change my stripes appropriately? I think this may have been implemented before I came back, so I'm not really sure what those stripes would look like. ^^ 21:32, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. For lack of better examples since this was way before my time, two of the ones i can remember are this and this. so yours would be pretty easily solved for the haunch ones if for example they visibly reached all the way to the < side of the haunch, or if they tapered or curled differently as to not be that triangleish shape, and same with the facial ones, though that's one of many ways to tackle it

Reuploaded. 17:54, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Waste near the bootyPotato&#61;) (talk) 02:41, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Got it. 22:26, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Completely optional suggestion, but since I feel these still kinda border on triangle tabby... would you object to adding a dorsal stripe? If you think it's fine without, that's perfectly fine with me.

Kit Blanks - For Approval
Sorry for the delay. I made some small tweaks since I posted it on the vote. I might go back in and tweak the haunch of the longhair if it turns out to look off without the tail (since it'll need to be shown for characters like Berrynose).

<-- this ear's lineart is different on both imagesPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:18, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

I think that's because of the tufts on the longhair. Regardless, can you round out the short hair's tail a bit more? They don't look like a cat's tail. —

Could you make them a bit larger? :) Also, this is more just personal choice, but I asked a few others: would you be alright with removing the pupil lineart? I looove making the eyes and I think some people don’t like to be restricted to one type. :) 03:51, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I thickened the tail tip a bit, but kitten tail tips are a lot thinner and pointier at the tip than grown cats, so this is about as far as I wanna go. I'd rather not make the blanks larger. They were sized according to the apprentice blanks, and they're also nearly as big as the starclan and rogue blanks. I'd like these to be at least somewhat smaller than the adult blanks since they're supposed to be babies.

The primary reason we're redoing the blanks is due to the size, so I can understand (and agree with) making them a tiny bit bigger since that's what people are primarily thinking about. Maybe a by a couple pixels. —

They were already made significantly bigger than the original kit blanks though. And since they're about the same size as the apprentices, there shouldn't be any issue with them being too small unless people think those blanks (and the starclan and rogue...) are too small as well.

I think the size is fine.

If size is that much of a concern, then we should really revisit the DF blanks. The size for these is perfectly fine and considerably larger than the old kit blanks. Different pose too, much easier to work with to show the pattern. <span style="">10:49, 01/31/2019

Honestly, the size is fine. 13:22, January 31, 2019 (UTC) Ones

yeah i think the size is fine too. 14:07, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Straighten out the bottom line of lineart on the hind leg closest to us and lengthen the front leg a bit (the one closest to us)

15:41, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

I don't have any reference to know if I am right, but should the tail be at the back of it? There is some room in between the tail and the back.<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 16:26, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Would you mind adding a few more fur lines to the tail of the longfurred? Or just lengthening the ones that are there to make them more visible/go deeper^^ I think the size is fine as well

Just gonna pop in and say I also think the size is fine. They're around the size of the rogue blanks, so these are perfectly acceptable as they are. ​​​​

You missed my comment above Paleh ^^Potato&#61;) (talk) 22:49, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

She didnt miss it, it isnt needed, the head fluff just makes it smaller Malina457 (talk) 04:57, February 1, 2019 (UTC)malina

Are they supposed to be smiling? 06:14, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Don't think the smiling really matters? And they're kits, so I guess it adds some character to them lol

I personally like the smiling! It’s cute. :P 03:48, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

I was not going to ask her to change it, I was just wondering if they were, because I was just a little confused. I do not want her to change it either, it is really cute. 12:16, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

Leg length is fine. They're appropriate for a kitten. <span style="">19:19 Sat Feb 2 2019

Reuploaded. Finally got around to redoing the lonhair's haunch area to make it look decent with tailless cats. Also redid a lot of the other fluff on the longhair. Might still redo the base of the tail on the right side again later. Yes, they are meant to be smiling a little bit. And Potato, what you're seeing is fluff on the top of the longhair's head, it's meant to be there. As for the tail not being connected, that is intentional, the butt's supposed to be turned slightly towards the viewer, so at that angle it looks best not to have it connected. I did shift the line up farther on the shorthair though.

Can you add whiskers? 22:20, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Tortoiseshell queen ~ For approval
soo, this is my first project here, I hope you like it :) 18:59, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

This is good! ^^ Remove the white, or change it to a cream color. The project defines a tortoiseshell as just black/orange, and only if they are described as 'tortoiseshell and white' do we add white.

hii add/define some earpink if you would, other images would show good colors for it. bumped this to ‘for approval’ since you know what you’re doing and welcome friend :3

Re-uploadedI hope it's okay for you like this 21:07, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading and although this is common with the queen blanks she looks slightly cross-eyedPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:53, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Do you think you could add more patches? 08:07, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

I noticed your talk page comment, defining shading means to make it darker or visiblePotato&#61;) (talk) 14:08, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 16:11, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Not breaking CBA but there's some waste outside --> that earPotato&#61;) (talk) 23:11, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

yikes i hate breaking the cba on such a beautiful image but could you make it so that the black patches blend in more? right now they kind of look like they are pasted onto the image 05:07, February 2, 2019 (UTC)

it was so minor that I didnt think it was worth breaking CBA for, but because CBA is broken, is the front ← supost to look black?<font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 22:33, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Rose (TS) (KP) - For Approval
who else but me. i was gonna do a rose charm but just did a velvet ribbon for a collar instead <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 00:17, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Where's the pupil in --> this eyePotato&#61;) (talk) 00:52, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Also found some waste ouside the outstretched front legPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:53, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

And define eye depth while you're at it Squidward, sorry for bombarding you with critiquePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Shading is leaking away from the lineart just above where the tail meets the body (topside) and on the back. I also think the shading in < ear could be defined

Reups Also potato the pupil is in that eye there's not that much space with the color aswell. don't know if i actually got the waste <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:41, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue, define light on collar, define eye depth again and sry for being the nitpickiest nitpicker but make a small line for the pupil in said eye, it looks, idk, odd without the pupilPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:45, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I'm not messing with the pupil in that eye. It is there and it is fine that way, i'm sorry Potato, and that pawpad is filled. i'll reups later. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 22:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Firestar (KP) - CBA
Not sure how much I like this. No matter what I do the stripes still seem way too thick. Not sure how to fix that. 01:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Some of the stripes go onto his belly according to his StarClan, and the top paw pads on the outstretched front leg are gray and not pinkPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:28, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the shading on his midsection? The transition from shade to light is just kinda abrupt. love me some rusty  <span style="">04:28, 02/3/2019

Define tongue shadingPotato&#61;) (talk) 04:36, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Should have a little gold bell; or well, it’s shown as round and gold in manga, but somethings or another would need to he added based on what’s in ITW with the whole thing about his bell making noise in the forest. It’s just not in his description anymore because yeah lmao

Re-uploaded: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:17, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Collar tag needs lineartPotato&#61;) (talk) 15:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

There is lineart, it is just a darker gold. Want me to change it to black? 15:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

yes, I think you should, and can you define the shading while you are at it?<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 16:42, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The stripes neeed to be thicker and smudged more.

16:44, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah change it to black, it'll make it more 3DPotato&#61;) (talk) 16:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I think I like the stripes better now? 17:08, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Define light on collar, this is gorgeous IcyPotato&#61;) (talk) 19:00, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Thanks! 19:34, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

There's some lighter pixels on the tip of the tail, and some leaking shading around the tag. 19:59, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Do you think you could circle the leaking shading? 22:17, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I might have found it. But if I did not, does someone mind showing me where it is? 22:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

I should've given you a redline earlier, my apologies 22:47, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 22:54, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Hm. Could you desaturate the shading a little? It's making the stripes disappear into it

Re-uploaded: This was kinda hard to desaturate, if it still is not enough, does anyone have any other ideas how to desaturate it? 00:52, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 00:36, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I hate to break CBA, but I can't distinguish the stripes from under the shading, they all blend to the same color. Could you fix that?

The stripes are the same color as the other files. What do you want me to do to fix it? 01:04, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Alter the tint^^ The stripes on the tail and arm fade into it to become almost invisible, so while tints are artists' choice, but the pattern needs to be visible beneath it

Re-uploaded: 01:18, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

yup. Re-CBA?

Sol (KP) - For Approval
I'll adjust the colors tomorrow my eyes hurt <span style="">01:53 Sun Feb 3

Add a little shading to the tongue and is the earpink meant to be two-tonePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:58, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

could you make the patches... blend in more, like on the rogue image? not totally sure how to explain it 05:39, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Cody (KP) ~ CBA
Referenced both the queen and the KP. I can remove the bow if want, I just thought it would be a fun addition. —

Hmm I know highlights are artist's choice, but could you dim them very slightly on the < front arm's shoulder and haunch? It just makes it seem like a different color than the queen

keep the bow. It is cute, and I love it! Can yyou smooth out the toung shading?

I see nothing wrong with the tongue Owlbite, though it could be smoothed out on the backPotato&#61;) (talk) 16:56, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hmm.. I actually like it without the highlights. Also, Potato, Cody has a dorsal stripe, so that may be what you're seeing with the shading but if someone else thinks differently lemme know. 0: —

Could you define the earpink and add some to the <-- side of the face. With your light source there should be some there as well as one the ear. 13:28, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'll fix the shading in a bit, could I possibly get a second opinion on the earpink? I took it from her old kittypet image. —

i think it is fine! <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 03:13, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded ^^ —

Comments before approval? 00:06, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Tallstar (KP) ~ For Approval
i put a collar on him since I can't seem to find a cite that said he didn't have one. Yes, I know the shading needs darkened, I'll do that on my next upload. 05:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

considering he was a feral cat at the vet and would highly object to wearing one, as well as no one making any kind of deal or notice that he was wearing one, he really shouldn't have it, especially as a main pov. his tail also needs to be longer. 05:32, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

pawpads and tongue unfilled

Make the tail loonnnnngerrrr Potato&#61;) (talk) 05:35, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Nope Skt beat me to itPotato&#61;) (talk) 05:39, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah but we don't necessarily know if he was wearing one or not. I'll remove it if I have to but I added it because the collar had no cite if he had one or not. I even read the chapters he was a kittypet while doing this. 16:05, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Not that I wrote the book or anything, but I definitely think that he would have noticed if he had a collar on him, so I agree with Trolly about removing it. 17:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Remove the collar; if he had one, there's no way he wouldn't have pointed it out. Plus, he wasn't owned by these Twolegs, they were just taking care of him. There's no reason for him to have the collar. ​​​​

can you fill in the paw pads and the tongue? especially the tongue, not sure if pawpads can be white 05:36, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

^ DOn't think so? Cats generally have black/brown/pink paw pads. Also I think the nose is unfilled too. —

Yeah, I'm removing the collar and the filling in the stuff but I think Spook pointed those out earlier. 13:19, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

oh im dumb lol yeah sorry splook for repeating 13:31, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Re-ups, re-did the shading because I lazed through the first. That shading took all day lmao my motivation was low 03:31, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Brighten some of the white on the front of the face? 19:39, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

It's at 100%, that's just shading. I've seen shading at that opacity on white, it should be fine? I tried to have some of the white show brighter but the white was low on his face where the shaidng is suppose to be. 20:49, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I think the white on the face is fine as is. Very well done Mel <span style="">21:46, 02/5/2019

Maybe define the light on it or erase some of the shading so the white is more visible. 22:19, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re-Ups 23:58, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

i feel like the tail could be quite a bit longer. it is what hes named for. 00:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Marmalade (KP) ~ For Approval
It's marmalade jar on his collar, i have such a great sense of humour tried to match the loner dont yell at me pls --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    07:12, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The loner's markings are much duller, could you smooth out the markings and make them a bit duller? —

reups of course --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    07:28, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The ginger spots, stripes, and dorsal stripe are darker on the lonerPotato&#61;) (talk) 13:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Found some waste outside the tonguePotato&#61;) (talk) 13:56, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

maybe add another section of clumped fur to his chest - just under the collar? I'm not sure if you have to match to loner for fur tweaks, but that image does have a clump there 19:59 Sun Feb 3 2019

The dorsal stripes and the markings are definitely duller and lighter on the loner. The dorsal stripe is far, far too dark here. 22:13, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Blend the earpink, it's a little hardPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you elongate the spots? The rogue has more of a blotchy stripe pattern going on, especially on the flank. 22:37, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth out most of the shading? And it looks to dark on most of it. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:26, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, I dont think there's waste? I checked. It's either just the base or lineart. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    10:45, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reups redid the stripes since it looked rough ;; --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    10:56, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'll get rid of some minor line art merges in the next reupload. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    10:57, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Gonna fix shading in another reup. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    14:04, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

reups --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the two hind paws? 19:29, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

the shading looks black, can you make it look less black?<font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 23:49, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Bumble (kp) ~ for approval
I tried. -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    08:03, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups tried to make the patches stand out more -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    12:04, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the shading a little bit? 13:52, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Pupil is missing in --> that eyePotato&#61;) (talk) 13:55, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Also blend the earpink, looks a little hard--Potato&#61;) (talk) 14:09, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

that eye just shows the edge so I don't think it'd be seen that well anyway, define the earpink. 16:08, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups the pupil was definitely there, it was just a bit hard to see. Hopefully this better now -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    16:39, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Unfilled pawpadson the two back legs--Potato&#61;) (talk) 17:03, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

They are filled in, I just tried to make them look natural so they colour isn't outstanding. Second opinion please? -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    17:08, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

The pawpads look fine to me. Can you define the light on the white? 17:15, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    18:04, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Your signature is causing my screen to switch from Visual to Source.. hmm. Blend the earpink more, still looks pretty hard--Potato&#61;) (talk) 19:09, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

I don't know whatever my sig is doing, I as I said it is acting weird. I'll reup soon -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    19:20, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reups -- Cloudymoon     cats   <span style="" title="Just kidding ;)">  Forever    19:29, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

This is good but the loner has more patches on the tail and they are much boldet and sharper than what's here, and there are noticeable dark spots all over the loner. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 20:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

These areas need to be filled in. —

could you make the shading more defined in general? its kinda hard to see 05:35, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

reups the nose and collar tag was filled in, there colour was just very pale. -- 07:25, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define light on tail? --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    12:00, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Patch style, placement and pattern do not match. Loners are done way different, I can't think of how to describe them though so just look at it. The dark spots should also be visible upon the black. The placement doesn't seem nearly close and even if it's a different pose the side it shows is still the same so placement should be matched and the appearance of the patches should too and there needs to be patches on the tail. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 12:48, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I accidentally uploaded an older file (one when I only touched the pawpads, shading, nose and just started on tweaking the pattern) I'll upload the correct one when I'll come home. -- 14:04, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reups I'm gonna kill Erin Hunter for giving Bumble such a difficult pattern -- 10:10, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

There's no need for language like that. I think either the white or brown patch on <--- side of the face is leaking a bit. You're doing great! 19:28, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah don't kill the Erins, fill in the paw pad closest to the tongue and blend the earpink to make it less hardPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:47, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Jessy (KP)- CBA
honestly a sloppy work of mine but passable– had to do her cuz shes bae. also admin, I named this wrong, can yall help fix that, thanks! 14:28, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Nice work! Add/Define the collar shading though. ^^

14:30, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Waste outside the bigger earPotato&#61;) (talk) 15:11, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Renamed it for you. 15:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Can you define the shading overall please. 16:09, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the haunch. 18:23, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

can you add shading on the collar? I dont see any. <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 01:27, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

reup rip solid cats– one thing i havent improved on since i joined tbh 03:46, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

There's some waste by the front paw. Can you smooth out the tail shading?

reup did my best 05:27, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Let's try this. CBA?

Pickle (KP) - For Approval
just because his name is pickle <span style="">22:13, 02/3/2019

He needs a squashed-in facePotato&#61;) (talk) 22:14, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded I cant believe I forgot his squash face <span style="">22:27, 02/3/2019

Smooth out the shading on the haunch and shoulder? 22:33, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reup not sure if that made much of a difference but I cant seem to get it to blur anymore than this <span style="">22:53, 02/3/2019

Could you add a layer of shading depth?

Hmm, add some shading stretching outwards to the > front paw?

reupp so many layers of shading lmao <span style="">14:43, 02/4/2019

Could you smooth out the layer of shading depth to make a smoother gradient going between the two?

Could you define the facial shading?

Reup <span style="">19:54, 02/5/2019

Tyr (KP) - CBA
Aaaa I’m so happy with how this turned out! It’s a totally new shading style for me. I went for sharp, smudged, and kinda blending in with the texture. It was fun! :) 22:16, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

White pixels spotted on the left side of the bigger ear near the collar, oh Winter this is amazingPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:19, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 22:35, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Shading is leaking here. —

Reuploaded. 22:40, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

This is beautiful winter! ^o^ but the texture seems to be cross-crossing on the flank.

23:33, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Me and Ari discussed the texture and I will leave it as is for now, unless anyone else thinks I should change it. I wanted it to be kind of messy and to be similar to the old image, but I can change it if necessary. :) 01:43, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Shading’s a little sharp just here on the backside of the leg

Reuploaded. 05:07, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

i think this should have a darker face. just look at the vast majority and they have it. (not sure why a fawn one has brown, but that's irrelevant as this is warriors.) 06:50, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Just wanted to pop in and say that Burmese = sepia pattern, always. And sepia pattern has the exact same placement as points. That means face, ears, legs, and tail are all at least somewhat darker than the body (brown in this case, I'm assuming the fawn part is describing the paler color? that would make a lot more sense) unless they're kittens, with the face and ears usually being the darkest part. Leaving off the face markings would be like leaving them off on a cat described as a colorpoint just because it didn't specifically mention the face's color. "Burmese" counts a specific pattern and that pattern always includes a dark face.

Reuploaded. 00:01, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 19:42, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Stormcloud (KP) ~ For Approval
Comments? 00:22, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smoothen out the shading on the flank? Eggheart (talk) 00:37, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:44, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the collar a tad?

Ajax (KP) - CBA
not sure what i was trying to do with the patches but i think it's better than my first attempt. 00:56, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the patches a bit more? They look slightly sharp. This is nice! 01:38, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

re-uploaded. mfw i realize im doing too much art. also thank you winter ^^ 05:40, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 00:09, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Smudge (KP) ~ CBA
tried to match the old pattern but I probably didn't do it any justice

I like it :3 could you smooth the shading at the top of the white on the chest, and I think one of the paw parts on the > front leg is unfilled?

Re-uploaded thanks Spooky. Did I fill in the right spot?

Yup^ could you add just a small bit of shading to run across the base of the chest?

Re-uploaded

CBA?

Ziggy (KP) ~ For Approval
He was based on my cat and my cat is a ticked tabby. I'm not sure if this fits in so i might have to scrap it --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    11:59, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Hmm I would add a bit more white to fit his description and also the shading needs to be smoothed along the back. 13:16, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Where is your light source I'm having a hard time telling as there seems to be shading at the top of --> leg and then the back of the tail. 13:21, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

can you smoothe the shading? also, I think he was more red, and had more stripes. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 21:05, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

He only has one image, so it would make sense to change the pattern I think. Also, this is called a pointed tabby, which means stripes don't have to be in the all over the image. Define the shading on <-- this back legPotato&#61;) (talk) 23:17, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, I'm very sure my cat is a ticked. He's a stray and strays commonly dont have pointed patterns. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:03, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Owl, this is my cat, I based him of it. There's no second image. I can change the pattern if I want to, I can only accept hawkey's because it needs a little more white. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:05, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Woah Silver calm down.. Owlbite is new and still learning... lower the opacity of the shading, just looks a little dark.

Silverfur, I believe Owl was just giving a critique. If you want to deny it, you can, but please try and word it so it does not come off as rude. 01:22, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I'm really sorry if that came out as rude, i honestly dont think it should b reddened. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:23, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reups I know there's waste, I'll fix it in the next reup. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:33, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I think it should be reddened. —

It's ginger? it doesn't say reddish ginger. I dont understand anymore. --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    01:40, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

The coloring is fine. It says ginger-and-white, and that's what this is. Given Silver was trying to match an image of their cat, I really don't see the need to change the color. ​

Oops, my b. I meant I agree that the shading should be tinted red. —

Reups Reddened the shading a bit? --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    02:08, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

shouldnt it be based off of the old kittypet version of Ziggy? <font color="#ffffff"> <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 05:30, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

No it should not. It is a new pattern. Regardless, can you smooth out the shading? 05:47, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reups (2x) so much pain --<span style="" title="No need to rush, my pace"> Silverfur's   <span style="" title="Don’t compare">  starry   <span style="" title="It’s alright to go slowly">  paws    <span style="" title="Go on your own path, my lane">  ~    06:09, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

gonna be this person unfortunately but... could you smooth it out a lil more ? try lightening it a little bit and if the depth goes out of whack add another layer of shading 14:29, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Sasha (KP) - For Approval
Love this sweet, tough, independent kitty! 15:16, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Great job! But with this light source, would there be shading on the back? 15:41, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! The light source is supposed to be coming from the front, so yes. 15:44, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Define the tail shading Malina457 (talk) 16:29, February 4, 2019 (UTC)malina

The shading's leaking away from the lineart on the backside of the < front arm's elbow

should this collar match how its depicted in tigerstar and sasha? 18:58, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Uh, what does that collar look like? Oops xD 20:14, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the paw pad closest to her tonguePotato&#61;) (talk) 23:17, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

Add some shading depth to her face? i love sasha  <span style="">23:36, 02/4/2019

Reuploaded. Sorry about the collar mistake! 01:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Think I see some leaking shading where the length of the tail meets the rump lineart. 19:22, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I'm having a hard time seeing it D: Can I have a redline? 20:16, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Diesel (KP) - For Approval
i love his name - my mad max loving heart is happy 20:39 Mon Feb 4 2019

Could you smooth the shading on the tail and < front arm?

Snowdrop (KP) - For Approval
Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 00:20, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Snooth the shading on the haunch and belly <span style="">00:28, 02/5/2019

Define the eye depth and the shading on the ears. 02:57, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

re-ups Darkshadowthe1 (talk) 00:02, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the body and define the light on the legsPotato&#61;) (talk) 00:09, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Velvet (AVoS) (KP) ~ For Approval


Likewise, can you define the light on the ear furthest from us? 19:20, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Frostclaw (KP) ~ For Approval


Is the paw pad closest to the tongue filled in? Love the collarPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:12, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded thanks^^

Could you define the light on the ear furthest from us? 19:18, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Morningflower (Alt. E) ~ For Approval
All colors from queen alt. Comments? 00:44, February 5, 2019 (UTC) Whiten up the whitePotato&#61;) (talk) 01:08, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:15, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Small black dot on the head lineart that shouldn't be there, it's close to the earPotato&#61;) (talk) 01:40, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smooth the white where it meets the black just a bit, the part of her chest looks really straight edged as well. 03:04, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

The white matches the alt queen, I think it's fine. <span style="">21:55, 02/5/2019

Ruby (KP) - For Approval
02:33, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Define the tail and head shading Malina457 (talk) 03:18, February 5, 2019 (UTC)malina

Honestly depth could be added everywhere

Re-uploaded: Yeah, I noticed right after I uploaded that the shading was hardly existent. Sorry about that. 05:39, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Betsy (KP) - For Approval
This was based off of a reference image on the internet, I can show it if needed. 02:54, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. 22:17, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Tabby rogue - for approval
lol what physics lab 03:36, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Define shadingPotato&#61;) (talk) 03:52, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

reup 03:59, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Parsleyseed (KP) ~ For Approval
still sick :( 04:19, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Collar tag's lineart needs to be blackPotato&#61;) (talk) 14:04, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

What are you talking about? There's no rule for that regarding the collar lineart; just the main lineart itself. The collar looks perfectly fine. ​

Sorry about that Jayce, Vec can do what she wants with it, though black lineart makes it more 3-D. Still, it's Vec's preference, sorry VecPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:53, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Duke (KP) - For Approval
hot pink is punk rock 04:36 Tue Feb 5 2019

Smooth shading on the front leg w no beans? <span style="">04:51, 02/5/2019

The white looks a little cream. Could you lighten it? (if it's colorpicked from the manga, ignore me)

Mitzi(KP)~ For Approval
Ive had this for a bit, I was just waiting for Dawncloud to be done! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 18:26, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

This is great! But could you define light on the collar as it's dark and sort of hard to see, whiten the white except for the face as it looks rather gray and add a bit of the base above the nose and between the eyes? Since she has a manga image and it has that bit of the base in the place it'd probably be good to have it here. You're getting good! <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 18:35, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Also, waste at base of the tail, both hindpaws, the outstretched forepaw, muzzle and both ears. I can't send screens in but if nobody else does I can later <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 18:37, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I dont see waste, and on my first upload, there wil ost likely be no waste. I do a waste check evry time, and I make absolute shure evry 3 times. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 18:46, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

[https://imgur.com/a/PJ38A8Q%7CHere's reference for the waste. It is there.] <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 19:03, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Can you add another layer of shading to add some depth to the image? Very nice job Owl <span style="">19:10, 02/5/2019

Oh and as beautiful as this collar is, it has to match File:Mitzi.RP.png her manga collar. pls use this collar for another kittypet I love it so much <span style="">19:24, 02/5/2019

Re-up, Rip collar. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 19:45, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

I liked the collar too, oh well. But the white hasn't been whitened at all. It's still very gray. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:46, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

The waste at the base of the tail is still there, btw, just checked. https://imgur.com/a/u4SZlQC <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, it is the shading making the white look gray. now I get the pain of white cats. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:01, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Looking good ^^. but don't forget to extend the stripe of the base on the face to reach the muzzle, there is on the queen you're matching. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 20:04, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

oh, you before said to have the base color between the eyes, but I set my base color to the white... oops! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:11, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

That's my bad then, I worded it wrongly. I was refrring to the red color as the base not thinking about what you might've used for the base. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 20:13, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Re-up, its okay. We all do that sometimes! <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 20:15, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Patches are a bit overblurred, compared to the alt queen in the set

I agree, the patches should be more rough and three toned. The colors don't seem to match the image that was pointed out. 20:58, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

This is great Owlbite, but the pupils are brown, make them black or white (your choice dear friend), and define the light on the collar, and yes there's some waste outside the top of the collar, and unfilled pixels near the latter, still this is good dear friendPotato&#61;) (talk) 22:56, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

what unfilled pixels? and the puipls are artists choice, I vave had them on all my art. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">❈ Love is Love, forever! ❈ =^.,.^= 23:48, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Between the collar and ear, do you want a screenie?Potato&#61;) (talk) 00:10, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Jake (Alt Ro) - For Approval
just gonna finish off jake's family tree alt set now, everything fro my loner alt <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >Squidward <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Plays <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >All  <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Star. <font color="#302B54" face="Segoe Script" >I <font color="#483D8B" face="Segoe Script" >Am <font color="#6A5ACD" face="Segoe Script" >Ranko <font color="#836FFF" face="Segoe Script" >Kanzaki. 19:55, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Leafstar (Alt KP) - For Approval
everything is from the cover of skyclan and the stranger; stripes match her greyscale appearances as seen on her page in her official art section. <span style="">19:57, 02/5/2019

Taylor (KP) - For Approval
I will not be changing the collar for personal reasons.