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Quietkit (Star) - For Approval
First charart. I'm not sure if I did this right. Shypaw11 (talk) 16:48, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, so this is a good job for your first time. This might be a whole wall of text, I apologize in advance.

The major thing would be to match the other image. Here, the chest is a more rounded yellow color with orange splotches. On the other image, the chest is an orangey-brown color kind of in a flash-design, so maybe if you changed the shape and either smudged/blurred (not sure which one) the colour, it would look similar. I'm not sure, but I think you're allowed to colour-pick from the other images. Next, the earpink here is a very neon purple colour, and we don't want that. On the kit image, the earpink is a more reddish colour, so even just colour picking and changing that would work. The other image has texture, which would mean taking a 1px or whatever brush and making small lines that look like fur. And then there are small things, such as the nose colour being pink, and the eyes being a darker blue. You could also define the eye depth (which means the colours in the eye go from light to dark). I hope this wasn't too harsh or long ... great job nonetheless :) 17:06, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can you please explain the texture a bit more? Shypaw11 (talk) 17:49, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Texture is basically adding "fur" to the charart, or adding the effect of fur so it seems like it's not a flat image. It's not required, but since the kit image has texture, it is required for the star image. To add texture, take a 1px (usually the smallest brush size you have) and add small lines to mimic the direction of fur. This is usually done on a different layer (usually a layer above the pelt color and stripes but usually not above the shading). I usually use black or a darker hue than the pelt color for texture, but you can always lower the opacity of it later.

Also, I think the cream belly should stretch all the way to the <-- chest fluff, and down to the underside of the chest where it meets the shoulder. And darken/define your shading. ^^ You're doing a great job so far. 18:15, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Winterpaw and Vec! I defined the shading, added texture, and fixed the chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 18:47, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the earpink some, and expand the chest to fill the spot to the <--, since it doesn't quite fill where it's supposed to be. Also, the color of it looks different than the kit, and a bit too orange. Define the shading, as well.

Reuploaded Defined shading, smoothed ear pink, and lightened and expanded chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 21:42, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the texture a bit, as well as the chest. Also, the chest looks too bright and orange. Try colorpicking from the kit. 22:18, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid shading, texture and stripes. How do you colorpick from a different image? Shypaw11 (talk) 22:38, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened Shading Shypaw11 (talk) 23:12, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what program you use, but to answer your previous question: When color picking another image, download it, open it in your art program, and then use the color-picking tool to grab it's color. On my program, it looks like a dropper, but on others, I'm sure there's a guide somewhere that would show which one it is. Try to pick from the lightest point, not under shading or texture, if you can. Then, you'll have that color saved to use on your image.

Reuploaded Thanks Spooky! I use GIMP, and hopefully this is better. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:08, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink, blur/smudge the shading and smooth out the stripes on the arms and tail.😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:30, March 6, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reuploaded Smudged ear pink, smoothed out stripes, and blurred the shading. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:56, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the image. Shypaw11 (talk) 01:32, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are you colorpicking from the image? The colors look a little off, especially the chest. Connect the lines of the texture. Smudge the chest and earpink some more 01:37, 3/06/2017

There is waste beside and on top of the <- ear. Also, maybe smudge/blur the earpink a bit more, and make it less neon, darker. 01:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The eye looks a bit milky? Or is that just me. .3. 02:40, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:04, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the shading some?

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 20:48, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are those lines on the body texture? Because they look a little. . . strange. Also smudge the ears a bit so it looks like ear fur. I also suggest improving the shading, mostly on the chest. Refer to the apprentice tutorials if you need it, they can be lifesavers! BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 2:59 3/7/17

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:28, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Everything needs to be smoothed out more 23:57, 3/07/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 02:38, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading again, please. 18:29, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink out some, and define the texture under the shading

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 01:31, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The nose pink is a bit too neon, it should be more orangey. Same with the earpink, it should be darker and less bright. :) 17:33, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:34, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

I think there's some waste around the ears and the top of the head. 19:07, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:15, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the lines on the face; they're too blocky. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 22:42 3/12/17 UTC

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 22:57, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Everything still looks like it needs to be smoothed out more 17:31, 3/13/2017

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 23:40, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

There's still some waste around the ears. It's either waste or blurred lineart. 23:47, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:55, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink, and define the shading on the tips of the front paws

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 00:11, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smudge the ear pink some more and define the eye depth. Homosneksual (talk) 00:16, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 00:38, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Theres waste around the head, chest, and tail. Also youre getting there! Ill promote you to an apprentice once i get home. Also smudge the chest a tiny bit more, and perhaps smooth out the shading along the flank more 01:41, 3/15/2017

Reuploaded Thanks! Shypaw11 (talk) 03:27, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the shading some more, and define the shading on the chest area. Maybe recede the earpink a little bit, because it looks like it's creeping onto her head :P 13:37, 3/15/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 22:46, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Define the chest shading, and smooth it out everywhere else some

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:58, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

In your light source, the chest would be all in shading :P close! 00:53, 3/16/2017

Reuploaded :P Shypaw11 (talk) 01:10, March 16, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The shading is leaking away from the lineart on the edges of the chest, and also, smooth the open a little :)

Reuploaded :) Shypaw11 (talk) 00:23, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11(talk)

CBA? wonderful job! 13:13, 3/17/2017

Super sorry to break your CBA, but the shading at the top of the --> shoulder and the flank could be smoothed out a bit more, as they seem pretty sharp and there's not much depth there. Also, the shading is leaking away from the lineart on the <-- side of the belly. To match the kit image, the stripes shouldn't go so far down on the front paws, and at least a few would go all the way across on the tail. Additionally, define the facial markers on the sides of the face to match, and the ones on top should be less squiggly and more straight like the kit's.

Where did the pale chest go? It needs pale parts to match. 14:24 Fri Mar 17

Add more texture. And the texture here has much thicker lines than the other image, I think. Smudge the ear pink. 16:49, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

@Sunjaw, the pale chest in under the shading. 19:15, 3/17/2017


 * It could still be lightened though, as it looks the same as the rest of the pelt. And the shading is leaking on it. 19:23, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

The pale isn't the correct color. It needs to match the kit image. This looks like it is just the base desaturated a little bit, and on the kit it is clearly an orange-brown and not that dark and desaturated. Not trying to be rude, but it really doesn't even match. 22:29 Fri Mar 17

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:28, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The flank and --> leg shading actually seemed to get more sharp with the last upload. Can you smooth it out?

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:44, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Can you smooth it out some more? I can tell the difference, but only just a little..

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 17:09, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the shading on the face, < paw, and the tail some more, and define the shading depth. 18:10, 3/18/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 18:21, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Can you smooth out the shading on the ---> front paw, and the flank and tail? In the last upload, it seemed to get sharper in those spots.

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 18:30, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

If she's a tabby, shouldn't she have stripes on her back too? Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I know the chest is in shading, but it really doesn't match the other image imo. Second opinion? 04:27, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Im having a hard time seeing the light anywhere, define that please. Also it matches just fine. As the stripes are only on the legs, face, and tsil on the kit image. 12:17, 3/19/2017

To me, the image looks a tad dark, or not exaxtly the same color. Ignore me if it looks fine lol. Rainbowmistake (talk) 12:24, March 19, 2017 (UTC)chat

Crap, ignore the image brightness thing, because my phone was not bright enough fml lol 12:48, 3/19/2017

No, there really is something going on with the brightness/colors. I've looked on 3 different screens on max brightness and it looks off. A few things. The stripes look like they fade off instead of going all the way down to match the kit on the legs/tail. The chest still looks like it is just a desaturated version of the base, so either your base is off or you still haven't gotten the right color for the chest. Make sure you are color picking from the lightest areas on the kit, as it looks like you have been pulling the colors from either a shaded area or the texture. There also really should be light on the chest no matter which side the light is coming from... 15:41 Sun Mar 19

Reuploaded I use the Burn tool for my shading, so of course it's going to look dark. I lightened it anyway, though. --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:44, March 19, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The pale chest still needs definition; I can't see it and it doesn't match the kit's, either. 01:35, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I colorpicked from the kit so it matches. It's going to look dark because of the shading, though. And sorry if I was rude, Sunjaw. --Shypaw11 (talk) 01:55, March 20, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth the top part of the chest a tad, and add some more shading depth to the chest overall.

The shading on the front right paw and face still look sharp to me, mind smoothing it out? Also, I don't see any shading in his right ear, if there is could you darken it just a tiny bit? ~Patch   feather~   13:44, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste all round it. 13:54, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:39, March 20, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the tail and head shading some more. Also define the texture everywhere, as I can only make it out in a few spots. 01:49, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 02:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

So smol and cute! I can't really make out the stripes on the tail Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 12:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Smooth out the paw shading just a tiny bit more, and give the chest some depth in shading, as right by the base of the chest would be darker shading. <span style="">12:44, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded These blanks are so adorable! --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:17, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

im a little confused? I'm not sure if it's just me, but I cant make out the stripes under the shading on the tail? Do you have it on the same layer or something? <span style="">19:54, 3/21/2017

Yes. --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:56, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Do you have the whole image on the same layer? If so, I highly recommend against it, as it's much easier to have everything on separate layers. As for the tail, do you think you could separate those two layers, as we need to see the stripe pattern under the shading there. <span style="">19:59, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded I don't know how to use a separate layer. And yes, it's all on one layer. I tried to make two, so please tell me how I did! --Shypaw11 (talk) 20:12, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Since you said earlier that you're using GIMP, I think I can help with that. Just right click > Dockable Dialogs > Layers. Then, that'll open the layers menu. From there, you can make layers by either right clicking in the window and selecting 'New Layer' (if using a Mac), or by clicking the page + symbol at the bottom of the window (if using a PC). Then, you can order your layers and change their settings from there. On another note, for the tail, I still can't see the patterning very well.

Reuploaded Thanks Spooky! How's this? --Shypaw11 (talk) 22:22, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Theres waste around the head and tail. Also smooth out the tail shading just a touuuuch more <span style="">23:16, 3/21/2017

Reuploaded :) --Shypaw11 (talk) 23:59, March 21, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Im gonna be that guy and say this looks fantastic! CBA? <span style="">13:38, 3/22/2017

Sorry for breaking the CBA but I can't see the stripes on the face (cheek?) that the kit image has. 19:20, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Give a bit more shape to the face shading and smooth out the tail shading a little

Still can't tell about the lighter chest. 23:26, March 22, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Layers are magical. Shypaw11 (talk) 22:40, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

smooth a shading a little more 20:33, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 20:50, March 24, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Shading is leaking away from the lineart on the edges of the chest. Also, smooth the shading a tad more - the upload doesn't show too much difference.

Reuploaded 02:42, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

By smoothing out the shading, it looks like on the tail, there's a few gray pixels leaking? Idk what that is, but could you fix that? <span style="">14:34, 3/25/2017

Reuploaded It's blurred lineart. :P C'mon Shypaw, why did you have to do such a tiny blank for your first charart? 16:58, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Define the facial stripes a tad more, and define the earpink shading.

Reuploaded 22:59, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

There should be more stripes in the areas. Also smudge the earpink. Seventy Five Faith (talk) 01:38, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:50, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Could you smooth the pale chest more actually? <span style="">15:30, 3/26/2017

Reuploaded 17:42, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Define the facial stripes some more?

Reuploaded 20:54, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

There's lots of waste around it. (Specifically, below the flank, near where the flank meets the tail, below and above the tail, above the back, by the ---> ear, by the chest, around both paws, and there's tons of color leaking onto the lineart everywhere. 05:07, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:39, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Thats a ton of text for one image! Smudge the earpink?Broken_Foot

Smudging the earpink is not a requirement for this project, and tbh it looks smudged enough. I'm gonna try this again. CBA? <span style="">17:07, 3/28/2017

Sorry, Imma be that person, but the stripes on the kit image are denser, and there appears to be more of them. Also, define the stripes on the <-- side of the face or maybe make them reach out further -->, because I still can't see them as much as they should be defined to match.
 * To clarify, I meant only the tail stripes looked denser. The others look good though :3

Reuploaded I'm not sure what you meant by "denser", but I tried. :3 22:44, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

I think Spooky means that the stripes are thicker, but I not sure. --ErmineGlow (talk) 23:16, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Well, not really. I meant for there to be more of them - denser, like more closely paced together. But whatever you did in your last upload made it looks better, so I'm cool with the way it is at current.

I'll try it this time. CBA?

The lighter chest looks brighter on the other image; I actually had a bit of an issue seeing that it was even there.

There's waste above the tail. 22:34, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I colorpicked from the kit again. 22:57, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Where exactly are you colorpicking from? It still looks darker than the kit.

A little bit away from the chest towards the --> shading, but not on it. 23:01, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Try picking from a lighter area; the shading is naturally going to make things darker. The base even looks a bit darker too...

Reuploaded This time I colorpicked from the very center of the chest. 23:11, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the chest again, its too pixelated. Also there's a gray pixel under her mouth <span style="">23:15, 3/29/2017

Reuploaded 23:20, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

The chest still looks too pixelated, smooth it out a bit more. ~Patch   feather~   13:35, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 16:45, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

The chest still looks a bit too sharp next to the brown, smudge/smooth it out some more? ~Patch   feather~   16:52, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Whoops, I was going to do that last time but I forgot. :P 16:58, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Much better, smooth it out just a bit more and I think it'll be all good. ~Patch   feather~   17:03, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:09, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Add a few more stripes on the tail, to make them closer together like on the kit

Reuploaded 16:29, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Mind thickening the facial stripes a tiny bit, and maybe slightly smoothing them? They seem more visible on the kit.

Reuploaded 20:47, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hayberry (Queen) - For Approval
First image ErmineGlow (talk) 22:44, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Don't align images. Also, define the shading on the stomach. 22:50, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

there shouldn't be eyelashes. 22:53, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

How come the <- ear has a rip in it? 22:54, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The shading looks a little flat on the belly. Shypaw11 (talk) 22:57, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I don't know how that rip happened, but it's fixed. Plus the eyelashes and belly shading.

There is still some black in the ear from where the rip was. Shypaw11 (talk) 23:10, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I blurred and smudged it to remove. Does it look better? ErmineGlow (talk) 23:14, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere <span style="">23:21, 3/06/2017

Reups Darkened shading ErmineGlow (talk)

I think you need to give your shading more shape, as these are supposed to represent 3d images, making it look real, so to speak. Instead of just plopping the shading on the tail and the legs as you appear to be, try only putting the shading around the edges of the legs/tail/etc., like some of the images on here. The apprentice tutorials help as well, and it's good to look at shading placement <span style="">23:28, 3/06/2017

Reups I tried to follow the shading placement image, so hopefully this is better. ErmineGlow (talk)

The lineart is blurred by where the ear tear and eyelashes were. 23:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Look better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:34, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth a bit 00:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:47, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Don't forget your signature. Also, smooth out the shading <span style="">00:46, 3/07/2017

Reups Better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:53, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

A little! Smooth out the shading on her tail, define the light on her legs as well <span style="">00:55, 3/07/2017

Add some shading where her chest is, and darken the shading on her tail just a tiny bit. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic (just realized that i was shipping myself with ashfur XD) 1:11 3/7/17

Reups Tried to smooth out the shading, and also darkened the shading at the tip of the tail. --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:16, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Try to use a darker color for the shading, because it appears that the shading is the same color as the pelt.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 03:50, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, it looks like a square on the flank <span style="">03:54, 3/07/2017

Reups Better looking? ErmineGlow (talk) 03:57, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

That looks more appropriate as the color for the shading. Try and lower the opacity and blur it more to smooth it out.

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 13:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Round out the shading on the flank, as it looks a little blocky the way it is now. Also, define the mottles on the paws, face, and --> side of the tail

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 22:22, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading more everywhere, define the light on the hidden back leg, and switch the shading on the farthest from us front leg to the other side of the leg <span style="">00:11, 3/08/2017

I think the shading is a bit too dark. Lighten the opacity a bit. Also, try to add some eye depth. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 00:19 3/8/17 UTC

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:03, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading a lot <span style="">23:35, 3/08/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:41, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Your shading on the face says the light is coming from the right, coming up a little. But your chest has shading close the lineart. o.O Is this supposed to be there? If not, erase that, because it would contradict the light source. And try to keep the light source consistent throughout the whole cat. Also deepen the eye depth. I think there's some there. . . ? Shine!  Beneath the Starlight

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:30, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth? Broken_Foot Slice Of The Crow's Talon 01:45, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:35, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the flank shading Broken Slice Of The Loved Crow's Talon 06:08, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups ErmineGlow (talk)

There's leaking shading around the very edges or the image, plus you need to smooth out the tail shading a lot more. <span style="">15:28, 3/09/2017

The shading looks square on the belly Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:04, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the mottled pattern on the --> side of the tail -- It looks like there's very little there.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the stomach and legs, and smooth it out on the tail. 00:17, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:35, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

What are you doing for smoothing out the shading? I dont see any differences between any of the revisions for the tail shading. To "smooth out" shading, use the blur tool on the edge of the shading, not the shading itself. <span style="">00:57, 3/11/2017

Reups Does it look better now? --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:18, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth it more please, and there's still shading leaking around the edges of the image. Define the shading on the legs minus the one hidden under the belly, define the light on the leg under the belly, the lineart is blurry by the < earpink (im assuming it's the eyebrow whisker), and there's what appears to be a white-ish color on the edge of the earpink on the forehead that shouldn't be there. Also, define the eye depth. <span style="">19:49, 3/12/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 20:47, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Shading'a leaking all along the tail. 21:02, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:43, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

You still need to add the light on the hidden back leg under the belly. Switch the shading on the front leg closest to us to the other side of the leg please. Shading is leaking all along the belly and head. <span style="">17:35, 3/13/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 18:39, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten and smooth the belly shading, you still have not added light to the leg under the belly, and define the light on the < front leg <span style="">18:46, 3/13/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 19:08, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Too much light on the leg under the belly, define the shading there. Still define the light on the < front leg <span style="">14:16, 3/14/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 17:43, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the belly shading <span style="">01:42, 3/15/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 14:54, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Define the darker mottles/parts on the <-- side of the tail

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 23:42, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like in some spots on the tail the shading is pixelated? like fuzzy static. <span style="">00:54, 3/16/2017

I added some mottles under the tail shading. Do you think it could be that? --ErmineGlow (talk) 15:41, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Idk it looks a lot different than your other ones, id say match the others or get rid of it. <span style="">15:43, 3/16/2017

Reups Hopefully the static is gone now. --ErmineGlow (talk) 17:11, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth and the darker mottles on the <-- side of the tail and the belly. Also, the <-- ear lineart is slightly blurred, I do believe.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:18, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I believe that on the <-- side of the belly, the line art is smudged near the top 08:08, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I can't find any smudged line art. --ErmineGlow (talk) 14:46, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

My mistake. Smooth out the shading a teeny weensy bit on the tail 19:27, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 19:30, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading, and also, even out the patterning on the <-- side of the tail. It kinda looks like a white-ish streak on my screen? Idek.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:57, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the shading on the tail? --Shypaw11 (talk) 16:47, March 19, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

It wouldn't hurt to also smooth it out on the stomach. 01:32, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 12:34, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

The shading on the tail is sharp, blend it in a bit? ~Patch   feather~   13:38, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:03, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth, and the tail shading still looks a bit odd. You mind smoothing it out more and giving it more shape? <span style="">01:48, 3/21/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:05, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Reups again --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:11, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading again, and define the eye depth

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 12:31, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading everywhere but the head, and lighten it some. Are you using layers? I can't really tell the difference between uploads. <span style="">20:51, 3/23/2017

Define the eye depth. 03:46, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 16:56, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth more. 17:04, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the tail shading more - still looks really sharp.

This image more than meets requirements to be at "for approval", so I'm changing the heading.

Ear pink is leaking. Seventy Five Faith (talk) 01:40, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:14, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the tail shading more. I'm still not seeing a big difference. <span style="">04:13, 3/27/2017

There's lots of color leaking onto the lineart in multiple places, and there's a teensy bit of waste where the < haunch meets the belly. 05:10, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for double comment, but define the shading depth on the face/head, legs, and belly some, as well as smooth out the shading on the < back leg <span style="">17:09, 3/28/2017

Reups Danny, I'm not entirely sure what you meant by color leaking onto the lineart, because as far as I can tell, all the lineart is pure black. --ErmineGlow (talk) 23:15, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out all the shading, and define it on the bottom half of the <-- side of the face

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:58, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Could you have the shading follow the tail shape? 03:03 3/30/17 UTC

The earpink is leaking on both the earsBroken_Foot

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 12:52, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading everywhere again save for the front legs

Define the light on the back leg farthest from us 06:04, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 20:32, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading; if you're blurring it, it should be more of a gradient.

Reups Hopefully the last time I have to smooth shading, but probably not. ErmineGlow (talk) 21:10, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Stoneclaw (W) ~ For Approval
Trying this with GIMP. -- 23:09, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the earpink?Broken_Foot

Define the shading on the tail 23:11, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Base color doesn't seem to match other images

Smooth out the blotchy parts of the shading on the back and neck, and define the shading on the paws and the haunch. 23:15, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Why are the legs farthest from us lighter than the rest of the body? 23:31, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I colorpicked from the StarClan image and checked again and it is the right base color. And in my reupload I couldn't seem to get rid of the waste so can somebody who knows GIMP tell me how? -- 23:38, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Not to state the obvious, but there's lots of waste around the whole thingBroken_Foot

Well for GIMP, go to your lineart layer, fill the outside of the lineart in red, and then use the color select tool to select the red. Then, erase the red, then go to your shading layer and erase the waste there (make your brush super big, for it to get it all). It works on any layer, actually. Also, define the light. This really does look darker than the star, unless you picked from an area that was shaded on it.

There's leaking shading along the back and a bit on the hind leg closest to us. Also, define the shading on the tail, and the light on the front legs. 23:52, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth a little <span style="">00:23, 4/01/2017

Reups --  00:43, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

There's a lot of gaps in the earpink--can you fix that? 00:52 4/1/17 (UTC)

Reups --  01:29, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Blur the lighting (if the lighter parts on the <-- side are lighting, I'm tired) and earpink and possibly match the eye color a bit better? 01:50, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the earpink some more and define the shading and shading depth some more. ~Patch   feather~   13:27, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --  15:47, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading around the head and hind legs a little and smooth it out. ~Patch   feather~   16:46, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --  17:05, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading out on the back paws and near the flank and define the light on the front legs. ~Patch   feather~   18:13, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

So this are the main colors I used for the StarClan image; the base color is 757575, then for the shading mainly 454545, for earpink A59090. 18:24, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Thanks for the colors! c: --  20:43, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

smooth the lighting more 22:07, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

The eye colour is still quite different. 23:07, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --  23:28, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Make the lineart black. 03:34, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth

Reups --  15:22, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

I believe there's still color leaking onto the lineart 17:51, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

I tried..but I don't know how to fix that. --  18:24, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Try just replacing the lineart layer; some parts look dark gray. Overlapping the lineart layer should fix any problems like that. Also, smooth the paler parts, because this image shouldn't have any, and it kinda looks like it does. Besides that, define the light on both front legs and round out the shading on the rump.

Reups I tried to replace the lineart but that one turned dark gray too. I know it's because of the shading but I don't know how to stop the shading from coloring the lineart. ._. --  18:39, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

The layer with your lineart should be the topmost layer, or second topmost depending on how you do your eyes and stuff. Basically, the lineart should be above the base pelt, shading, highlights, ect.

Reups I tried to erase some of the color on the lineart. --  18:47, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth quite a bit 20:49, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --  21:54, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Darken the shading and smooth it out.

Reups Now I have a feeling it's too dark :c --  01:58, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Fox, you need to really smooth out the shading everywhere.Broken_Foot

Shading's also leaking away from the lineart a little bit on the foreleg closest to us and on his underbelly (unless the underbelly was intentional?). 20:50, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Willowclaw (Q) - CBA
~Patch   feather~   05:22, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on ---> side of her stomach a little? 14:39, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the <-- haunch/leg too 14:47, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ~Patch    feather~   16:43, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

The shading on the --> side of the stomach is sort of blocky. -- 17:53, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.  ~Patch    feather~   18:11, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on both legs farthest from us 01:51, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.  ~Patch    feather~   14:32, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light a wee bit on the farthest back leg again? Lookin' good!Broken_Foot

Maybe add just a smidge of shading at the bottom of the chest, since there would be a little with this source. Also, define the tail light a little more

I think the stomach shading could still be smoothed a little more. 18:33, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I never knew solid cats would be so hard to shade. 20:59, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded again. '''Defined tail shading. 21:02, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Could you smooth the shading on the <-- front leg, and also the belly a tad more?

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 23:23, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Very nice :) CBA?

Tanglewhisker (Star) - For Approval
Spiky spiky 16:51, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

You like spiky cats, don't you? Define tail and face shading? 16:57 4/1/17 (UTC)

Gorgeous. I may be wrong, but shouldn't he have his graying back? Or maybe not since he's all gray? 20:13, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

He doesn't need a graying back; he is gray.

The stripes on the flank and on the <-- arm seem a little denser (closer together) on the elder image.

Theres a pixel of white waste on the top part of the slashed ear btws. Rainbowmistake (talk) 21:07, April 2, 2017 (UTC)chat

Ripplestar(DF) ~ For Approval
This is so gross. First mottled cat? Not sure if he's mottled or not. I might add more of the darker and lighter dapples or whatever. I know the color might be a bit off, but this is the best I could colorpick from his leader that matched. Shading was difficult, but here we are!Broken_Foot

I've got nothing super constructive so say, but there's a waste pixel above the back. 18:29, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! I'm so blind it's hilariousBroken_Foot

Shouldn't you continue to re-upload under the old file? This file has "DF" instead of "df", which I think it's supposed to be. 20:05, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the "df" should be lowercase in the file name. Also, the cream/lighter mottles seem much more visible on this than on his other image, while the darker/ginger mottled seem much less visible. I think this is because the cream mottled are layered over the ginger ones here, whereas the opposite is true on the leader. 20:12, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! Mind if someone renames it for me?Broken_Foot

I'm pretty sure you can if you right click and select rename on your file. -- 20:43, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

You can just reupload over File:Ripplestar.df.png, honestly. There's no need for a rename, because then we'd have to delete the old file and then move this one.

crop the extra space please 23:42, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

What 'extra space' is there?Broken_Foot

it should be cropped to the lineart. 23:48, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I think?? So I reuploaded under the file name you gave me, Snowed, but I don't know if it showsBroken_Foot

I think you have to go into source edit and change DF to df in the file name. 00:08, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

I don't think that would be a very good idea.Broken_Foot

Why not? 00:21, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

When I tested it, and applied the changes for only me to view, it came up with a red link. I might screw something up, and then Snowed or another admin would have to delete the current file name and photo. And Snowed said that also, and I think it would be very annoying also. But if anybody disagrees, I'll take Shypaw's advice.Broken_Foot

The eyes look a bit greeny-brown and not orange yellow 01:10, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! When your book falls onto the ground and you nearly have a heartattackBroken_Foot

Smooth out the shading on the shoulder and closest front leg  04:19, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! I think it might be the mottlesBroken_Foot

Now that I look closer at it, it is. Sorry :p 05:49, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

You were able to reupload under File:Ripplestar.df.png, and now you need to keep using that. You replace File:Ripplestar.DF.png with the lowercase df file, just as Shypaw told you to do.

Re-uploaded! Okay, I'll just reupload all my previous changes onto this file. Sorry if I made a mess or annoyed anybody.Broken_Foot

Define the lighter speckles on the flank a little more, for matching the leader

Not exactly sure what you mean by 'define the speckles'Broken_Foot

'Define', as it usually does in PCA, refers to making something more visible. On the leader, the lighter speckles are more visible on the flank (and tail), than they are on this. So what I meant was for you to make the speckles more visible, by therefore defining them.

Re-uploaded! I actually really like the Shattered Sky sample. I hope Violetpaw got a new warrior name in that book. I hope it's VioletskyBroken_Foot

Smooth out the shading? Maybe lighten it a tiny bit too? 21:04, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

I think the shading is smoothed out enough just fine, it's just the mottles that make it hard to see. And if I lighten the shading, I'll get comments to define it. So, second opinion?Broken_Foot

Shading darkness looks fine to me. And it looks smoothed out enough, although I can see why it looks sharp. Can you define eye depth a little bit more?

I think the eye depth is fine.Broken_Foot

I think the speckles are a bit more blurred on this than his leader image. 20:49, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

I can't really tell, so should I sharpen them or something?Broken_Foot

They could stand to be sharpened a little

Re-uploaded! When your touchscreen breaks and you have to restart the laptop but you feel the need to Charart firstBroken_Foot

Define the light on the <-- side of the face a smidge more, just because the if the light's hitting --> way it would be shining on it.

Flower (KP) - CBA
04:36, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Smoothen out the > ear pink 05:59, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 06:31, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth on the face and the --> front leg?

Could you define the shading depth on the front leg? ~Patch   feather~   14:31, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Patchfeather, please do not repeat comments. You've said word for word exactly what Spooky just said two hours ago. Also, Scar, could you lighten the gray a bit? It does say she's light gray.. and this looks a bit dark.

Re-uploaded 18:39, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the face shading? 20:58, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 05:27, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

CBA?

Lowbranch (Ki) - CBA
All colors from the other files.

I feel like the patch on her face is not smudged out enough. It looks a little sharp, if you know what I mean.

It looks fine to me. Also, I'm not sure if it's my screen or not, but define the shading on the neck a bit? If there's any I mean. She's so pretty! Well done on the set, Snowed!Broken_Foot

Re-uploaded. You ain't getting much more defined with that. This blank makes it difficult.

CBA?

Petaldust (Q) - CBA
<span style="">16:46 Sun Apr 2

Very pretty, only thing is that her eyes are supposed to be green. 16:49, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="">16:30 Mon Apr 3

Really pretty^^ And since the only comment thus far was on the eyes, I should be okay to CBA this

Ivy (Ki) ~ For Approval
fun fact: we got the cat I based this pattern off when I was 9, now I'm 23 and she's still doing the same old. 18:45, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Define tail shading and smooth the shading on the little V on the chest, if that makes sense. 21:53, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

reuploaded I can't define the tail shading. it's not possible with how the patterns colours are. 20:55, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Splashpaw (A) ~ For Approval
... not what I was hoping.

Maybe fiddle with the ear farthest from us. Its earpink seems a tad bright? Rainbowmistake (talk) 21:15, April 3, 2017 (UTC)chat


 * that's just because of the how the hading falls. Define the shading depth around the ribcage  and haunch 21:21, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded

With your lightsource, there wouldn't be that much shading running along the back I think. If this is the apprentice tutorial source, then yes, remove it. 21:52, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightening the shading a tad. And also, I don't think I need to remove any. I've used this exact same source on three of my other apprentice images, and I've seen it used on many other images, too. It's not quite the apprentice tutorial version - it's one that I copied off another image, and have used thrice with no complaint before.

Oh, I am late  ShineC♉♏et   08:57, April 4, 2017 (UTC)


 * please do not comment just for that <span style="">13:20, 4/04/2017

Doespring (Star) - For Approval
First image as a warrior :^o (kinda wish i did a warrior charart, so it'd be like my first warrior charart as a warrior, but, you know, whatever. maybe next time) 21:57, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the tail a bit, maybe define the shading depth everywhere? Nice image! 22:40, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

reups 22:48, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Define the texture on the <-- side of the face?

Not sure if its me, but define the shading depth on the tail where it meets the lineart. Hope it makes sense X3 Also, don't worry, I did an apprentice for my first warrior imageBroken_Foot

reups 21:20, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Rippletail (SC) (Ro) - For Approval
I like white cats. 22:35, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading just a bit? 22:57, April 3, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:16, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Plumclaw (Q) ~ For Approval
Lol this is my first queen and I suck at shading. (If cats know about apples and plums, what about peaches?)

Add some shading to the face? 23:09, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the two back legs 23:21, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. I can barely see it. ErmineGlow (talk) 23:42, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

The belly shading should stop at the elbow and round up. If it doesn't stop there, it kinda looks like the belly extends over the forearm, if that makes sense. Also, define the light on the front legs. 00:18, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

Scree (Ro) (Ro) ~ For Approval
I give up on the black markings 23:08, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

I think he needs mud on him <span style="">23:36, 4/04/2017

this isn't tribe scree, he's just a rogue. 23:41, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Honeyleaf (Q) ~ For Approval
Can't get the stripes right >:( Also, wasn't sure if I should put "For Evaluation" or "For Approval 23:55, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Nah it can be For Approval, since you've got your first image approved already.

Define the shading depth. :) This is great for your second image. 00:03, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

Your sig is changing the words below it. can you fix that?

nvm

Reuploaded Shading depth defined. And I know, I wanted to make my sig bigger but it also made the timestamp big so.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 00:35, April 5, 2017 (UTC)