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Ashfoot (Queen) - Declined
First charart of approval started.. Sorry I don't know what I said. Anyway this is my first charart for approval, comments? :D -- Night Wolfy Moon  02:06, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Blur and add more depth to the shading. It looks quite flat. Love those eyes <3> 2:35 Sat May 17

Re-uploaded I made the shading a bit darker too. And thank you. The eyes are always my specialty :D -- Night Wolfy Moon   12:43, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Try defining the shading around the belly, it still looks a bit flat. Trunktail 15:50, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail and the back leg closest to us. The belly shading is fine- if anything, it just needs a little bit of blurring. Perhaps lighten the shading around the shoulder/head/chest to match the rest of the image (sorry for nitpickin g) 10:08 Sun May 18

Ok I'm doing that now, but you guys should keep in mind that I don't use GIMP I use Pixlr so I need to figure out how to do that now..... -- Night Wolfy Moon   13:56, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading more please. c: 18:26, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

My computer is acting up so I won't be able to fix it for a little while.. :( I will try to see if I can throughout the day though. -- Night Wolfy Moon   13:07, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

You're gonna need to reupload soon or else we'll have to decline this. ;-;

Sorry, it's been like ten days at least since you've uploaded, so I need to decline this.

Tom (KP) ~ For Approval
Here's Tom. Not exactly my favorite character. Comments? 03:10, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

The stripes get lost in the shading a bit, but they do look pretty neat.

Reuploaded. I don't think changes are showing yet. 03:27, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading and darken it a bit.

Reuploaded. I don't think changes are showing yet. 16:28, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading a bit more, but especially the shading on his right paw and haunch, and his face. I love his charart, amigo. 20:15, 05/18/2014

Darken it a bit more too. Not much, but just a little more.

Define the ear-pink 21:32, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Define the stripes some? They don't look so much as stripes as they do texture o3o 21:34, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The stripes are actually meant to be texture. Not sure if changes are showing yet. 22:04, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

If they are texture, then he needs stripes, since copper pretty much means ginger. 00:00, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I did not realize that. 00:35, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't the stripes be ginger? After all, it's just his muzzle that's described as moleskin-brown o3o 00:36, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Do the stripes have to be ginger? I probably could change them, but it will be hard without redoing the whole image. 18:34, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

If he's copper, and if it doesn't mention that he has moleskin stripes, sorry, but yes, they have to =P. However, you can click the box that says "lock" (if you use GIMP) so you can paintbrush in the ginger without messing up the stripes. Also, add some stripes, and try not to make them triangle-ly. Wish you luck on this one man! c: 18:36, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. There was no way I could have done the stripes without redoing the whole image. I originally made this on a school computer, which didn't have gimp and I wasn't able to download it, either. I was stuck using pixlr, and the only way I could blur the stripes without over-blurring them is if it was on the base layer. Now that I'm at home, I was able to restart using Gimp. I used all the same colors as before (except the stripes), but took off the texture. Hopefully this works. 19:43, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading some? 19:45, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine, but I'll change if someone else agrees. 19:48, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'll agree with Beebs- but remember, define doesn't mean darken, it means make it more visible, by whatever means you think is appropriate. I'm also not seeing very much light here and it looks like most of the image is in shadow? I think defining the depth might help here.

Reuploaded. 21:56, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused as to where your lightsource is coming from, can you define the lightsource please? 18:27, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I totally redid the shading because it was awful. That should have (hopefully) fixed the lightsource issue as well. 20:47, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Also, changes are not showing. 20:48, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Darken/define the stripes on the head? They seem pretty faint. 15:24, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I'm just gonna sneak in here and rename your file to File:Tom (Cat).kittypet.png because the page was named incorrectly therefore making the filename wrong. Since tom is also a term for a male cat and such, I renamed the page.

The stripes on the head are the same color as the rest of the stripes, so I'd rather not change that. 02:10, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Could you define the light source? 13:08, 05/26/2014

Reuloaded. 17:41, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Are you shading with black, or with another color? If you're using black, try a different color, like a darker brown or darker red or something along those lines. The image kinda looks like it's turning grayish, and my guess is it's because of the shading..

Reuploaded. 22:51, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Whitethroat (Star) - For Approval
I'm not sure about how good this is, the earpink took FOREVER to get shaped right, any comments/questions/ideas? notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:16, May 17, 2014 (UTC) (yay, first charart in 3 years!)

Define the shading and eye depth, as well as add some white to his chest. 17:18, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up (did it upload right?) notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:26, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

As for eyes, do you want me to darken the dark and lighten the light? I took the color from his warrior image... notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:27, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. Trunktail 17:36, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the shading and maybe thin out that white patch on his throat/chest area by a couple pixels on each side.

Re-Up. Does it look any different? I'm having problems with the file itself... notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:46, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger. Trunktail 17:51, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Tried to make the earpink a bit more like the other's I've seen, did I do it? notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:57, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

That's better, but there's some waste on the ear. Trunktail 18:16, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Got it! (right?) Thanks, I wouldn't have noticed it otherwise notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  18:21, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it has updated for me yet, but I can still see some waste. Also, could you bring the white on his chest up a bit higher. His other chararts have it going up to his chin. Trunktail 18:35, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Looks a little odd to me... is it just me again? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  18:47, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

The file needs to be named File:Whitethroat.star.png in order to go with the templates and pages. Please go back to the other file and then you can just reupload over what's already there.

Re-Up: Did I rename it right? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  19:02, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Nope. See the blue link I gave you? Use that filename and just reupload over it.

Okay, I think I got it THIS time. Is there anything else I could do to tweak it? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  19:05, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

There's still waste outside of his left ear. <font color="34282C">Trunktail 20:23, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Waste should be gone now. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  20:31, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Add a little more depth to his eyes. 01:06, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his middle. <span style="">10:11 Sun May 18

Re-Up. Not sure how much I can work on this today, so here you go (for now) I'll see if I can get the computer back tonight if needed. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  13:08, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on his haunch, and add some depth to it. 17:42, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Re-did the shading completely. Look any better? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:55, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

uggg, looking at this, the shading still looks weird. Anyone else think so? I may just re-do it. (again : <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  00:18, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit and this could just be me and it's my preference (it's up to you) but can you lighten the shading? 18:28, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. Thank you Duck. Looks better now. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  22:11, May 20, 2014 (UTC) (Are changes showing?)

Blur the shading more on the back, add some variation to the color/darkness of the shading on the white chest, add ear-pink in the turned ear and give him a gray nose. Also, check the linear on his left forepaw, it looks slightly blurred around the toes. 04:44, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re Ups. Are the changes showing? <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  21:09, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

They are. Darken the shading. This is looking much better than when you first started and I'm very impressed with your progress. =)

Re-Ups. Thank you Skye. I'm pretty proud of this. :) <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  23:56, May 21, 2014 (UTC) (I know I sound like a broken record, but is the shading okay now and are the changes showing or is it too dark?

If anything, it seems too light, so darken it, please. Also, define it, and smooth out the haunch shading. 15:25, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. Better, Beebs? <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  19:14, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Add some more depth in the shading, it look a bit flat. Also, darken the base color 04:12, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. Not quite sure what you meant by depth for the shading, so I darkened everything. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  16:34, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading.

Add another layer of shading (but don't cover the new shading with it; make it smaller than the current shading) then blur it, then lower the opacity. Make sure this layer is above the shading you already have. That will give it more depth. Leave a message on my talk if you need any help, man. <span style="">16:22, 05/26/2014

Re-Ups Okay, I added another layer, added small-er shading around the edge of the tail, outside of ear, belly, the inside of his left leg and the outside of the right. I can send the xcf file if anyone wants it. (Me is horridly confused.) The shading is darker in the layer I just mentioned, btw. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  21:42, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Make the white on his chest just a little whiter (maybe add a small highlight or something along those lines), and this'll be good to go, imho. This is very lovely. .o.

Okay, so is there a way to open the xcf file in Pixlr? I've tried GIMP on Rollapp, but nothing works on there, and I don't have the capability to use GIMP on here. IS there anything that can open the xcf (So I can get the layers), or is there a way to convert the png to layers so I can edit it? Really wanna get this done tonight... <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  14:59, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

No, but if you send the file to me, I can convert it to a .psd for you, and send it back. You can use .psd files (photoshop files in case you didn't know) in both GIMP and Pixlr.

Ehhh, I'm just being nitpicky- I take back my comment, and I'm going to CBA this instead.

Sorry to interrupt, but could you define the shading on the face, and smooth out/smudge/blur the shading on the >>> paw? Also, if you want, but you don't have do, smudge the fur into the earpink, since it looks overblurred. 18:20, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Also, I see a white speck on <<< paw. Can you fill it in with some shading? 18:21, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Mothflight (Kit) - For Evaluation
Why is it so smalllll? Anyways, yeah, I can't art, and I'm not entirely satisfied with the shading (Shading on white cats >3<) :c. Anyways I'm not sure if I should add highlights or not, so, yeah. Also, my computer perception is wacked lol. 17:17, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Not bad for a first-timer, Bird! Define and add some depth to the shading. 17:43, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Could you also blur the shading some? This looks nice, Bird. 17:47, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

This needs to named File:Mothflight.kit.png. You can reupload over the file that's already there, Bird- it was never approved.

Yeah, I know, but for some reason the old picture just kept overwriting my own. x3  23:56, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, I kind of want to redo the shading entirely. 00:03, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

She's looking beautiful, Bird. Perhaps blur the edges of the shading a little more, and then give it some depth around the neck and legs? If you're not sure what I mean, you're more than welcome to come and ask me in the chat when you're online.

Reups yeahdefinatelygoingtoredotheshading  22:20, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading, it looks quite flat. <font color="34282C">Trunktail 19:39, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

I'm going to hold off defining it, because if I define it, means I'd have to blur some more, and what it looks like on my computer, that there's more shading than actual fur colour, so if more people say define it, then I will, but currently with all the blurred shading, I'd rather try and avoid it. 21:58, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Give the shading some depth and define the light source 02:00, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups I had to redo the shading, and added highlights, but I'm not going to darken the shading anymore, because if I make it any darker it just looks weird  16:30, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the edges of the shading and maybe add some to the head. ouo Remember what I showed you on join.me, dear? Try something like that for shading.

Enlarge the earpink a tad.

Re-ups I depthed it the best I could, (Even though depthed isn't a word hehe)  17:31, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Deepened is probably a better word. Blur the chest shading a bit uvu  Anais ♥ (talk)   17:35, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps add another layer of shading to give him some depth? If you need help with that, feel free to message me and I'll show you ouo <span style="">17:45, 05/26/2014

I'm using Pixlr right now, and I can't lock layers. (Not that I didn't know how to use layers lol) -- 18:05, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

I hate to sound like a broken record, X3 but could you blur the chest shading a tad? Neverendingmoon (talk) 01:25, May 28, 2014 (UTC)Moony

Re-ups -- 17:21, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Princess (Q) ~ CBA
not entirely pleased, that collar is difficult to put on this blank; comments? See here if changes aren't showing 22:08, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the belly/back a bit more. She's a mighty fine kitteh xP 04:37, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Reups thank you sweetie :D 15:32, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

She looks slightly darker compared to her other images, but this is probably just the base I'm looking at.

I colour-picked from the lightest areas of her kittypet image. 16:22, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Then it could be how you shaded. Perhaps tint it or use a darker brown if you're not using black? Idk, it's a tiny thing and doesn't make much of a difference- I'm making a fuss out of nothing big, so you've every right to ignore me. =P

Reups I've duplicated the layer and lowered the opacity on the double layer, so it's darkened but not too much. c: 21:50, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten a bit of that upper back shading.

Reups I'm quite proud of this 22:53, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

It looks lovely, dear. Blur the belly shading where it transitions to the lighter areas- it cuts off a little too abruptly.

Reups thank you thank you 08:49, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading in the area between the shoulder and chest, and smooth it out a bit. 15:28, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Reups 16:30, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the stomach shading just a tad more. Other than that, this image is absolutely /beautiful/. Wow. <span style="">12:08 Mon May 26

Reups obrigado~ 19:11, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

CBA?

Littlecloud(Alt MCA) - For Approval
Ugh I'm out of practice and this looks waaaay different now that I've uploaded it. Comments? 23:16, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Define and blur the shading? This is lovely, Duck~ <span style="">23:19, 05/20/2014

Is it me, or do the stripes get a little bit lost, so to say, in some places?

Re-uploaded 02:39, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, a suggestion, perhaps? If you have the spare time and want to do this, maybe take a size one smudge point and gently smudge the stripes to give them more of a flowing look? It's entirely up to you, but that's what I've done before and usually it comes out really well.

I actually always do that after i blur them but I'll do it more if it needs it. 16:22, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe just a little bit, if you don't mind? Also define the overall shading, especially on the feet.

Re-uploaded 01:39, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the shading a touch. Lovely work, dear c: 02:02, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded thanks scar c: 02:56, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere barring the tail. Nice job, Duck. 15:27, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:39, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Define and blur the shading again please? I'm still having trouble seeing it and what I can see looks mostly unblurred. I love the stripes though .o. <span style="">16:27, 05/26/2014

I think the shading's fine, there are other images that have way less blurred shading and this shading is blurred and I can see it perfectly fine. 16:56, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the body shading.

Re-uploaded 22:12, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on (his left) left paw. He's pretty 17:22, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Dawncloud (Star) ~ For Approval
comments? — <span style="">20:14 Wed May 21

Make her a little more on the ginger side? I almost forgot we finally had a cite for her actual pelt color and wondered why she looked different.

Her other images don't have texture and a pale belly o3o 23:05, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

reups — <span style="">00:08 Sat May 24

Another nitpick, but aren't her eyes supposed to be blue, like the other images? 15:28, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Fuzzypelt (Star) ~ CBA
-weeps- Shading on this blank for me is awful. 21:48, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe define some light in -> ear so I can see the ear pink? =P

Reups changes may not be showing wow do you like it? 16:11, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Reups I just added another tuft to (his) left paw; it looked rather un-tufty. I also defined the shadin a bit on the tail, and filled in an empty pixel in his nose. 08:54, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on his shoulder, and maybe add a highlight on the chest? If there is, can you define it? 15:29, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Reups added the chest highlight 16:31, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

CBA?

I'm really sorry to interrupt, but can you define the chest highlight some, and expand it a bit? Once that's done this will go back to a CBA ;-; 21:20, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

I don't really want to expand it, but I'll define it 21:22, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Reups 22:14, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

back to a CBA, dear? 22:20, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Rainswept Flower (Star) ~ For Approval
Noooo not Rainy! She and Jagged Peak are meant for each other! I'm starting the Clear Sky's Haters club *murders Clear Sky* Anyway, Comments? <span style="">1:42 Thu May 22

Make the shading a little bit darker, and maybe add a few highlights.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 01:44, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

There are highlights, and I don't want to darken the shading too much. I'll change it if someone else agrees. <span style="">1:58 Thu May 22

Alright. It was just a suggestion. ^^'--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 02:00, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Ooo, very pretty! :) If I can just make a small suggestion? The dorsal stripe is a completely diagonal line across her back, which suggests she is laying at a very odd angel. I would just suggest giving it a bit of curve, letting it follow the slope of the back. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 02:04, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Gorgeous!! Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink a touch and define the light on the tail a bit more 04:25, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

On Jay's suggestion, I think just move the stripe up a tad. Only a little. Give it a little curve like what Jay said, but not too much Those eyes are like sapphires o.o 16:15, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you, thank you, and thank you. <span style="">20:39 Thu May 22

It might just be my eyes, but it looks kinda maroonish/purple 22:21, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Psst, Hawk, if you want the exact colors, go ask Ivystripe- I'm sure they'll gladly give you the file for Rainswept Flower's rogue image. =)

Hmm, I color picked from the rogue, but I'll ask Ivy anyways. <span style="">23:13 Fri May 23

Hawk, you still working?

Re-uploaded. Yeah, sorry. Ivy hasn't replied, so I selected a different color from the rogue. <span style="">20:51 Tue May 27

Wind (Q) - For Approval
Comments? Plain cats are a pain. 02:38, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Expand, blur, and darken the shading. I did the rogue, and the base pelt for her is around #AC866E, in case you couldn't get an accurate color because of shading/highlights. ^^

Re-uploaded Forgot to change the base coat, I'll change it next upload. 02:29, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

I see some shading leaking away in the area between her tum and her foreleg. 15:29, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded not sure if i got it all tho 21:38, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the shading a bit?

Perhaps add a bit of depth to the shading as well? She looks a bit flat. <span style="">16:31, 05/26/2014

The shading on the belly is disappearing at the bottom slightly. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 17:44, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I can't tell on my screen if the shading is not disappearing, so if it is please tell me and I'll try and fix it again 22:13, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Why is the stomach shading smudged?

Actually, all the shading is smudged. And because I like smudged shading? 21:05, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

It doesn't look like the rest of the shading is smudged, though? Could you please define it so I can see how the rest of it is smudged? I seriously can't see the rest of the smudged shading and it just looks blurred to me...

tail shading needs defined 01:41, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Owl Eyes (Ki) - For Approval
Yep, I'm back already. Hey, I don't really have anything else to do. So why not do a Char Art of my favorite Ancient Cat? Comments? Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 15:28, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

What's with the tail? He should have a short-furred tail if you're using the short-furred blank.

Well I thought since in his description it says he has a fluffy tail, it should be included in his Charart. Should I change it back to shorthaired? Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 15:52, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

He'd only get the fluffy tail if he was named for it, and he wasn't. Which, speaking of being named for something, he'll need bigger eyes.

Re-ups, don't think changes are showing yet Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 15:58, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Wait, why would he only get the fluffy tail if he was named after it? It's part of his description from the book. Rock isn't named after his sightless eyes or his bald pelt, but his charart was edited to include them. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 16:02, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Remember that it's likely that Rock could see and he had a full pelt when he was kitten. And complete baldness and blindness is very significant, affecting his appearance /majorly/. Also, fluffiness isn't too significant, unless the cat is named for it; if a cat is named for it, it's gotta pretty significant enough for it to be on a charart. 16:07, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Because it's not a prominent feature, Jayfrost. With Rock, his sightless eyes and bald pelt are a major part of his description, so that's why he gets them shown on his charart.

if a cat has a fluffy tail dont they usually just get made longhaired?? 16:11, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

But according to the books, Owl Eyes definitely does have the fluffy tail. I guess I'm just a little confused why we would deliberately leave it out of the charart when he know that it's a canon part of his description. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 16:12, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Because it's not a major, life-altering/defining part of his description. With cats like Featherwhisker, Crookedstar, Owlstar, ect, they were obviously named for certain things, so that's why we include them in their chararts. Owl Eyes was more than likely named for his eyes (and we all know Owlstar and Owl Eyes are more than likely the same cat lmaO), so his eyes would be made larger, just like Owlstar's images. Featherwhisker's whiskers were tweaked, Crookedstar's jaw was tweaked, Tallstar's tail was made longer, ect. A lot of cats have been called fluffy before, and the most we've done is make them long-haired unless it's an extremely important and vital part of their description.

Just give him a long-haired blank unless he was specifically described with a short pelt and a long-furred tail. 18:06, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Is it just me or is anyone able to see the changes? Because on my screen the changes are still not showing after a couple hours. I fixed his tail and made his eyes bigger but for soem reason they're not showing up? Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 19:21, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

I reverted the image to the second upload, which appears to show the changes. You must have uploaded a third time by accident.

Oh. Thank you :3 Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 19:45, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on >>> foreleg. 15:30, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, changes don't appear to be showing yet. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 12:06, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Try reuploading it again? Also, add some depth to the eyes. <span style="">16:34, 05/26/2014

Re-uped. As usual changes don't appear to be showing. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 17:43, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

There's some waste around the head.

Are you sure? I looked all over and can't see any, also, the changes still are not showing. Does anyone know how to fix this? It should be showing aversion with some more light on the right leg and eye depth. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 21:26, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Where's your light source coming from? Also, images can take a while to visually update. Also, check your layers for the waste. 17:24, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Cinders (Q) ~ CBA
Before you ask, the white isn't supposed to be pure white o3o. Comments? 19:03, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more where the black meets the gray near the base of her tail. Other than that, it looks amazing :)~Breezeheart~ (talk) 19:25, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine, unless someone else disagrees, since it's the same style as the rest of the tail. 19:33, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

I think some of it is a little too smudged compared to the loner, and they /are/ facing the same general direction... Like, the transitions between the gray, darker gray, black, ect.

Which ones in particular? o3o 19:40, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Mainly the tail, but the overall smudges throughout the entire image.

re-up 20:04, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe just a do a little bit more of the smudgey-ness stuff on the belly?

re-up 21:26, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

She's purty... <3 Enlarge the highlight on her chest 05:53, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

There isn't a highlight on her chest; it's just shading. 13:37, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Then maybe thinning out the shading there is an alternative, if you want. Pretty :3 Can you darken the shading?

re-up thank you stoner 8D 14:45, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

CBA?

Whitewing (Queen) ~ For Approval
I hate shading white cats >.<  Color picked from her Apprentice image. Comments?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:36, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Unless you colorpicked from the image itself for the eyes, define eye color a little more please. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  23:38, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Her eyes were color-picked from her apprentice image. so i think it would be better to keep them as they are, so they're not as different from her other images.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:40, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Wasn't sure. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  23:41, May 22, 2014 (UTC)  also i can't see very well with this screen my apologies

Darken the shading on the tail a little, I would say, it's a bit hard to see in my opinion. .Ginger (talk) 23:47, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

The legs look pretty gray.

'''Re-Up. '''I tried uploading it over the old, but it kept messing up and showing the old queen image instead..

Anyway, i added darker shading too her tail and lightened her legs a bit.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 00:02, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light and shading on all four of her legs, and add some depth to her belly shading. 15:31, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 22:21, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Add some light on her hind legs and define/sharpen it on her front legs 05:54, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Better?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 18:03, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Define shading on the --> front leg. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 21:45, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

One-eye (Q) - For Approval
Comments? All colours are from her other images. <span style="">22:29, 05/23/2014

Could you lighten that shading just a bit? I know it's artist's choice, but it looks kinda dark... 22:52, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a difference between artist's choice and the shading just being too dark for the pelt. I think in this case, it's too dark in general. Also blur the shading too.

Reups <span style="">12:57, 05/26/2014

Define the chest shading please. c: 14:03, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Can you define the light source? I don't really understand where the light is coming from. Those eyes owo

Reups the eyes are epic i love them i did a fantastic job~ <span style="">15:16, 05/26/2014

Maybe blur the shading a little more, and lighten it a couple percent on the opacity bar? Like, no more than maybe... 5%? Or at least for the tail/"back end" of the cat...everywhere else seems fine, but those areas are slightly darker.

Hawkheart (Star) ~ For Approval
I've never done flecks/mottles before.. so critique is kinda needed on that. Color picked from his Medicine cat image. Comments?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 22:54, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Don't you already have an image up? Neverendingmoon (talk) 23:08, May 23, 2014 (UTC)Moony

If you look in the comments for Whiteclaw's, I withdrew so i could work on this one instead.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:11, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Add some earpink, define the light on his legs and tail, and make the flecks and mottles match his other images more. I'd recommend asking the OA of one of them for the file, so you can get the right colours exactly and study the pattern properly. Also, this needs to be named 'Hawkheart.star.png'. 23:14, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading.

Re-Up.  Added highlights to his tail and legs, and i changed his mottles. Does that look better?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 00:07, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I think you should define the shading a bit more. Think about where your light is coming from. Is it coming toward him from the top left corner above the hip and tail? Then shade along the right edge of the face (our right) and the tops of the front legs, and the right of the chest and the bottom of the belly. If it's coming from the top right corner above his head, shade the left side of the face, the bottom of the front legs, shade a little on the left side of the chest, shade a lot on the lower left side of the back, and the tail. Just think about where the light is coming from and where the shadows would fall on Hawkheart's frame. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 01:57, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-Up. '''Does that look any better? I couldnt make it to dark, because it was starting to make his mottles blur a bit..~Breezeheart~ (talk) 02:20, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the earpink and face shading some. 15:32, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up.  Added darker shading. I'd rather not define the ear pick anymore so it still matches his other images, since i color-picked it from his Medicine cat image.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 18:50, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define means to make it more visible, by whichever means you wish. It doesn't always mean changing the color. It honestly just means make it so we can see it- perhaps changing the lighting in the ears, shifting the style, ect.

'''Re-Up. '''Better?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 19:04, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink and define the light source 05:55, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-Up. '''Smudged ear pink and difined the light source.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 18:03, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light/shading on the tail? Beautiful image, Breeze! <span style="">16:51, 05/26/2014

Re-up.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 20:49, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Can you make the grey more visible?

Tallpoppy (Alt.Q) ~ For Approval
comments? — <span style="">00:48 Sat May 24

Do you mind possibly reddening the ear pink a little bit so I can see it a bit better?

reups, hows this? — <span style="">00:56 Sat May 24

That's better, thank you. Maybe give a little more depth to the belly shading? If you don't want to, that's cool with me. ^^ Another stellar charart, dear.

Also, define the shading on the face and chest, too. Pretty! 15:32, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Snake (Ro) ~ CBA
This lacks the pompoms we all know and love. Oh well. Comments? 14:31, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the overall shading and define it, especially on the legs. I want the pompomps plz add them. ;-;

re-up sorry but they're not in his description ;-; 14:41, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the chest. (what are you guys talking about? Pom Poms? ಠ_ಠ ) Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 10:10, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine - I can clearly see it (and there is, if I'm not mistaken, some added depth there.)  the pom pom thing is an inside joke, i think 13:45, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Define the depth on the chest a bit then? i demand pom poms  <span style="">16:55, 05/26/2014

re-up no 20:43, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Snake, Snake, he's our cat, let's get him approved so we can hit him (and Clear Sky) with a bat. CBA?

Tansy (Lo) - For Approval
Eh. I tried. Does she have an official eye color? I never read The First Battle, so I don't know. If she does, tell me so I can fix it. Also, I gave her texture, she doesn't have random shading. 17:37, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

She has no cited eye color that I'm aware of, so you can use whichever color you want. As for texture, are you able to make it flow with the fur a little more?

There's no way I can really fix it at the moment, I could get rid of it though. 17:50, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on her hind leg thats going forward, and add some depth to her eyes.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 18:54, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 19:05, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Add a bit of depth to her shading, particularly on her legs in in light, her neck, her belly, and the tail. Shouldn't be too much. Not bad! 00:27, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Wing Shadow Over Water (KM) - For Approval
Since her prey hunter is being redone, I'm free to choose the pattern as I see fit. I tried something different with the mud and mainly kept it on her feet and underparts, since I hate making splotchy stuff, and nowhere does it say the mud needs to be a certain style. o3o

Define the shading on the legs and chest. hey look she has a patch on her bum 00:26, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Also defined/darkened the tail shading too because I didn't like it. Yes, yes she does. I dub her Wing Shadow Over Bum.

Can you add possibly a few more specks of mud, even just some small ones, because the tribe cats were noted to have rolled in mud, so it would be in other placer on their fur. 04:24, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. That I can do. I just don't like patches. =/

Define the shading on the tail? I love this and omg Wing Shadow Over Bum</small|>  <span style="">16:57, 05/26/2014

I can see it just fine, but if someone else has issues viewing it, I'll define it. ^^ I take no credit for that it was Beebs' idea

I agree with Fernflight on defining the tail shading, it looks very thin to me. It's less of a wing shadow over bum it's more of a mud patch... I hope it's mud. </S> Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 12:11, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ...we were talking about the white patch. The brown is mud.

Shattered Ice (W) - For Evaluation
First charart, I hope it's ok unu  Anais ♥ (talk)   20:04, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Remove waste from outside of the lineart. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  20:05, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded uvu  Anais ♥ (talk)   20:09, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

This should be named File:Shattered Ice.warrior.png. Would you like me to rename it for you?

Yes please, thank you very much uvu  Anais ♥ (talk)   20:14, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Renamed. There you go~! Just keep reuploading over the newly renamed file as you were, and you'll be good to go!

Define the shading. 20:37, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Anais ♥ (talk)   17:12, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Define shading on the back leg closest to us 17:32, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Jay (Lo) - For Approval
I love this so much and thank you Duck for finding a cite that lets me do another image for her. ;-;

Define the shading on the neck/shoulder/head area some? Very nice, dear. 18:26, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I also darkened it too.

Beetlewhisker (Star) ~ For Approval
k was gonna do pixie but w/e i think its a week before you reservation expires without posting isnt it 11:20, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and overall define the shading. He's pretty :3 Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 11:52, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Shading is fine, but I do agree on the stripes needing a bit of blurring to match the other images. This is really nice Skt .o. <span style="">12:05 Mon May 26

Actually, can you blur the shading a bit? 14:04, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I smudged the shading a little as i dont blur my shading but otherwise I thought it was fine 01:37, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Birch (Alt. Ki) - For Approval
loo at this cutie patootie. Comments? <span style="">12:42, 05/26/2014

Lighten the brown a little bit? I almost thought it was black. 13:44, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="">13:49, 05/26/2014

Dust Muzzle (kit) - For Approval
So, here's Dust Muzzle. I added a bit of lighter fur around the eyes and muzzle, and a tiiiiny bit of lighter fur on the chest. I hope that's alright? Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 00:12, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading by the lineart along his back/side on -> side of the charart. This is lovely. .o.

Blurred the shading. Better? Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 18:39, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Oakheart (Alt. Star2) - For Approval
It seems to me that someone who believes Oakheart should be bracken-colored is continuously whispering over the Erins' shoulders… hmmm… scarly thoughtful face   05:43, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

There's a little bit of waste around the front left paw and where the tail tip meets the belly. I'm that person...ಠwಠ Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 12:08, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:37, May 27, 2014 (UTC)