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Sandstorm (Alt W) ~ For Approval
She looks like she has blue eyes in the picture. Kind of like this one. -- Silverfur   skz  [ 13:24, 12/24/2018 ]

Reuploaded Made the texture more visible. -- Silverfur   skz  [ 13:29, 12/24/2018 ]

Can you lighten the haunch shading a bit? And I’m not exactly sure what your light source is. 13:42, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded when you put shading on the lineart layer Hope this makes a difference? the tail shading was ruining the light source. -- Silverfur   skz  [ 13:51, 12/24/2018 ]

The shading looks lke it's leaking way from the lineart on the back a smidge Malina457 (talk) 14:59, December 24, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Define the shading on the right front leg--Potato Flakin (talk) 15:55, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Actually, define the shading on all the legs 17:32, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink a bit! :) 20:12, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- Silverfur   skz  [ 03:17, 12/25/2018 ]

Define the light on the legs.Potato Flakin (talk) 03:35, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

'''Reups. Silverfur  skz  [ 04:15, 12/25/2018 ] '''

This color doesn't quite look like it matches the image color very well. Is that where you got this color from? ​​​​​

I got it from the starclan one, but i'll change it. -- Silverfur   skz  [ 11:07, 12/25/2018 ]

Understandable, but I think in this case, it should match the field guide images that it's meant to depict. You didn't do anything wrong, I just think it was a miscommunication as to what image you should get coloring from. ​​​​

Reups! Does it look better? -- Silverfur   skz  [ 11:10, 12/25/2018 ]

She needs to be a lot more orange, just like the image from The Ultimate Guide/Cats of the Clans. If you need to, I can help you get an appropriate color. ​​​

I colorpicked from her head/neck. Wait i'm gonna reup and if it doesn't look good then you could help. Silverfur  skz  [ 11:41, 12/25/2018 ]

Reups The color looks unnatural imo. -- Silverfur   skz  [ 11:42, 12/25/2018 ]

It has to match what we're given, unnatural or not. She's still not looking orange enough.... I'll see what I can do, but given the lighting and how these are painted, it might not be possible to get a good pixel to pick from. ​

Humor me and see what #D9994A looks like. I saw where you colorpicked from the head, and I'm thinking there's a lot of light there in general. ​

Looks a bit golden yellow in #D9994A. Let's see how it looks  Silverfur   skz  [ 11:52, 12/25/2018 ]

Reups Looks okay I guess. Silverfur  skz  [ 11:54, 12/25/2018 ]

I think it also might be your shading color...each pixel in her image is a totally different color, making picking extremely difficult. Leave it like this for now, and if someone else comes along with a better alternative that still looks ginger, then go ahead and change it....her art doesn't really show her as pale, but more of a neutral ginger coloring. ​​​​​

Define the earpink a bit, and --> hind leg shading is receding away from the lineart.​ Also smooth the shading out on --> hind leg.Potato Flakin (talk) 16:21, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

Oops I forgot something- Define the tail shading.Potato Flakin (talk) 16:24, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

Define the light on the < side of the haunch 03:38, December 26, 2018 (UTC)

Reups  Silverfur   skz  [ 04:20, 12/26/2018

Define the light on the tail and lower the opacity of the shading a bit.Potato Flakin (talk) 05:58, December 26, 2018 (UTC)

reups   𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣   𝓼𝓴𝔃  [ ]

Hmm... disregard this if you are the OA of the set, but I don't think the pelt colour matches the queen. Or vice versa, unsure of which one will be considered the first in set, but the colours should stay consistent to match. —​​​​​​​​​​

Realized yours is first in set, nvm. —​​​​​​​​​​

Reups Fixed some issues -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣   𝓼𝓴𝔃  [09:03, 12/27/2018 ]

Shrink the earpink it a lil' bit. There's also waste outside --> this front leg.Potato Flakin (talk) 06:17, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Reups -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣   𝓼𝓴𝔃  [12:14, 12/28/2018 ]

Reups I uploaded the wrong file and apparently had 2 clones and couldnt find out which one i had done the reup on. -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣   𝓼𝓴𝔃  [12:40, 12/28/2018 ]

the shading seems too sharp on the flank, smooth it a bit. Also it seems the shading is leaking from the back lineart slightly.

14:10, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail.--Potato Flakin (talk) 14:27, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Define the light on the < front leg, and add some shading on the part of the back where it meets the tail

Smooth out the haunch shading. —​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

There's too much shading on the hind leg closest to us, around the end of the leg and near no shading on the paw. This is looking good still! SquidwardPlays 20:21, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Reups..  𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣   𝓼𝓴𝔃  [05:50, 12/29/2018 ]

Smooth out the shading some more. 09:06, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Reups. This is harder than I thought -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣   𝓼𝓴𝔃  [00:59, 12/30/2018 ]

It always is when you’re getting used to it. But you’re doing so well! I love this. The shading is still leaking away from the back lineart, though. 05:00, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

Redline? 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣  𝓼𝓴𝔃  [06:08, 12/30/2018 ]

Reupssssss I think the 'shading thats leaking' could be the white texture that makes it look like its leaking away. I hid the lineart and i found nothing. 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣  𝓼𝓴𝔃  [06:12, 12/30/2018 ]

Reups Some waste. 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣  𝓼𝓴𝔃  [07:48, 12/30/2018 ]

SHould there be shading on the stomach, because currently it looks like there is none Malina457 (talk) 15:29, December 30, 2018 (UTC)Malina

You don't have to, but maybe try tinting the shading a warm tone? It might help with the problems it's giving you (: 16:39 Sun Dec 30

I also think it wouldn't hurt if you smoothed out the shading a little more in the neck area specifically. 18:09, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

Reup I need more time as i'm rushing to get this done -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣   𝓼𝓴𝔃  [02:19, 12/31/2018 ]

You still have plenty of time (: smooth the shading on the neck and main body. It should be like a gradient 02:23 Mon Dec 31

Don't rush! Since you're still an apprentice, you have ten days to upload your next re-upload and until 24 January to get the charart done. So that's plenty of time, given your diligent streak so far. And you're improving with every upload! It's okay. Take a deep breath. Step away for a bit if needed. You're doing great. :) 02:28, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Reup Hmmm, does this look good? I know I messed up on the tail a little bit. 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣   𝓼𝓴𝔃  [02:30, 12/31/2018 ]

Hmm in comparison with the alt. queen, the base and earpink on this seem slightly darker; could you check that? The shading could also be darkened just there on the rump, around the area where it meets the tail, it's lighter than the rest

Didn't Echo talk about this above? -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝    𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣    𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~     𝕚'𝕞 𝕠𝕟 𝕒 𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~   [ 08:31, 1/02/2019 ]

Reups It's hard -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝    𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣    𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~     𝕚'𝕞 𝕠𝕟 𝕒 𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~   [ 08:55, 1/02/2019 ]

Reups I am trying to fix the ear pink. -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝    𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣    𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~     𝕚'𝕞 𝕠𝕟 𝕒 𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~   [ 08:59, 1/02/2019 ]

Reups I fixed the base. -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝    𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣    𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~     𝕚'𝕞 𝕠𝕟 𝕒 𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~    [ 09:01, 1/02/2019 ]

Uh would you like the file for the queen to colorpick from? SquidwardPlays 12:40, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Lower the opacity of the shading

Onestar (Alt W) ~ For Evaluation
Should match his description from TUG CloudymoonTheCat

Hm, might just be me or the coloring, but the shading along the lineart seems to be leaking pretty much everywhere.

15:34, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

You did the stripes amazingly! But, Define shading all over except for the tail. And since you're still a kit iirc, until a kit is promoted to apprentice it should be For Evaluation, but correct me if I'm wrong. SquidwardPlays 15:50, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

On the topic of shading, is it tinted? Tinting it with a color might help me see it better. Potato Flakin (talk) 16:16, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

It would be 'For Evaluation', yes. Also, make the stripes thinner and add more of them, per the leader alt it needs to match

There needs to be more white in between the light brown. The leader alt also appears to not have any dark brown on it, so remove that. I forgot to say this is lovely Cloudymoon!Potato Flakin (talk) 19:29, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

In 'dark brown' do you mean the stripes or the base colour? Because he Have dark stripes if you zoom in CloudymoonTheCat

Lemme rephrase that- lighten them, they are way darker that the leader. I meant the stripes.--Potato Flakin (talk) 23:06, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

Lighten the pale parts to match the leader and make the tail become lighter as it approaches the tail tip. 14:39, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

I re-uploaded it - I tried to define the shading, and I changed the base colour and the stripes and swirls. CloudymoonTheCat

You're getting there! Warm the brown (lighten it) a bit more to match the leader, which I'll link here. Can you also whiten the white parts? They look cream.Potato Flakin (talk) 21:17, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

The overblurred look on this image may be a result of putting everything on the same layer. Are you using multiple layers?

I do use multiply layers. I'll try to fix everything that you said :) CloudymoonTheCat

Try using pure white?

Define tail shading. -- 𝕊𝕚𝕝𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣   𝓼𝓴𝔃  [07:09, 12/30/2018 ]

Re-uploaded it again CloudymoonTheCat

Uh Oh! It appears you alligned the image. Make sure when you reupload remove the "|left|". Can you dethumb this real quick?Potato Flakin (talk) 14:40, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

nah they just thumbnailed it. make sure not to upload them as a thumbnail. I've removed it for you, but keep that in mind when uploading more chararts. The stripes also taper more, and they aren't as thick and blurry as they are here. (sorry if that seemed rude) Taper out the stripes, and maybe smudge them. Expand the shading as well, and smooth it out.

Littlecloud(mc alt 2)~for approval
Do I like this? I cant tell. Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 19:59, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

It was a good go! However, there are large issues to be addressed. None of the colors seem to match the Medicine Cat Apprentice that is on the page. First in the set it has to be matched. The pale placement also seems.to differ, the stripes are also sharper. They also seem a bit jagged or the likes on the apprentice too. I'm sure you can fix it no problem! SquidwardPlays 20:12, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Squid's right. This is supposed to match File:Littlecloud.mca.alt2.png and File:Littlecloud.FG-6.png. This is also supposed to uploaded as File:Littlecloud.mc.alt2.png. 20:14, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Oh and one more thing, there's waste at the base of the tail. SquidwardPlays 20:18, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

why would it be alt2? what was the first one?Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 20:29, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Define the shading as well.

This is Littlecloud's first alt (made by David), but it's not in use anymore. Just because chararts aren't in use, we still keep the original files up. —​​​

if you need the color swatch to match the mca alt I can provide that^^ my computer nuked the file somehow  though, but i do an alt kit still around if you need a file to look at

Due to  the  alt  mentioned  above  by  Echo, this  would  have  to  be  renamed  '' File:Littlecloud. mc. alt2. png ''. Mind fixing  that  real  quick  Owl ?Potato Flakin (talk) 21:47, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Missed Vec's comment. There's waste outside the tail. Potato Flakin (talk) 21:52, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

I know there is waste, as Squid said <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 22:08, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Oops my bad, I'm very blind today.Potato Flakin (talk) 01:25, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Re~up, okay, therewere a range of other things wrong with that immage, and I am shocked no one commented how flat the shading was, or how the stripes were way to sharp, so I re-did it all (why it looked bad- i reasently got photoshop, i am bad at it.).<font face="Tempus Sans ITC">Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 05:52, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Re~up, that bit of waste... it will kill me somday. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC">Im Am TrasH =^.,.^= 05:58, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

I think this should use the long haired blank. Also, the stripes are overblurred. Sharpen them?

The file is still not named properly. It's mc.alt2 not alt2.mc. ^^ 17:05, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

I've renamed the file for you. Upload it under the name "Littlecloud.mc.alt2" from now on^

17:11, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

The darker stripes on the face should be thinner, and all of the stripes should be more jagged^^ There's also a slight layer of texture going underneath them, on the mca ~

Define your light source. Its pretty hard to distinguish it. If you need help with it, you may find the Apprentice Tutorials helpful. <span style="">16:43 Sun Dec 30

Still working? 00:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Firestar (Alt L 5) - For Approval
Another one, Squid? Why, yes, Because I have too much fun making charart! Can't stop and won't stop uwu. I like this one, I'm just not completely sure if the longhair blank was the right one. I'll change it to short if needed. All colors picked from the image File:Firestar.GA2.png <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 22:46, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

He seems to be shown as a shorthair, so I'd say use the shorthair blank. 00:17, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Reups I did it, but when I went in to convert to short, some things had seemed to have gotten messed up and/or deleted, being the muzzle color, earpink, and shading, so i redid those things too. The new shading might be a bit light, but I'll fix it in a bit. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 00:47, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Would you define the light on the tail, when you do go to fix the shading. 00:57, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

There's some weird black line beneath his feet.Potato Flakin (talk) 02:24, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Along with Potato's comment, the chest fur looks weird to me. 𝕊𝕚𝕝   𝕧𝕖𝕣𝕗𝕦𝕣    𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~     𝕚'𝕞 𝕠𝕟 𝕒 𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕧𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕣~   [ 06:53, 12/31/2018 ]

Shouldn't he have a slightly defined paler muzzle? Malina457 (talk) 15:45, December 31, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Could you define the light on the < front leg? There'd be a little more with that source, I'd think

Define the earpink a bit more, it blends in with the pelt.Potato Flakin (talk) 23:24, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Reups To be honest, I hated it when I changed ti to shorthair,so I redid it completely and I like it more now. Re-colorpicked from the image best i could. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 00:05, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

It might be just me but the eyes seem a tad crosseyed. 00:17, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

I think it looks fine. There's been several leader images with that pixel placement. Could you define the light on the front legs and <--- haunch? 01:58, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I think the light could benefit from being defined everywhere. 05:51, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

This looks really good so far! But his eyes seem a little dull of color compared to the image. I don't know if you have to or not, but you might have to add the stripes on his forehead. idk COOLcat9352 (talk) 20:38, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Defined light, and the eyes should be fine. I still picked them from pixels of the image's eye. and I did actually consider the forehead stripes, but I want another opinion just incase before I do. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 21:06, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reups Oops, it cropped wrong. <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 21:08, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

There's waste everywhere.Potato Flakin (talk) 21:57, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reups <font color="#660000" face="Segoe Script" >SquidwardPlays 22:12, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

If they're on the image, then yeah I would add the stripes. There's still little light on the legs. Try erasing some of the shading so the pattern between the shaded and non-shaded part is visible. Right now it looks very flat. 22:25, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading depth

Flametail (Alt MC) - CBA
Not too keen on the colors, will go and fix when I'm more awake. Don't comment on that or the shading, as I'm aware both need to be tweaked. Also wasn't sure if I was allowed to expand the pale parts onto the rest of his chest and wherever else we're typically allowed to on tabbies... so I can remove them if need be. I also am aware of the lack of shading on the feet; I forgot when I uploaded. ​​​​​​

Could you possibly define the ear pink on the --> ear? 07:00, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

The pale parts here almost seem super white? They seem like a creamish orange color on his images. 22:23, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I did get a weirdly white color, Vec. I changed it though and picked from a different area on the muzzle. Slightly less annoyed with this. ​​

There's some waste here. Sorry I couldn't zoom up close, still working on how to use Gyazo.Potato Flakin (talk) 01:32, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

I have spent the last 20 minutes looking for the waste you claim is there, and I cannot see it. ​

Alright I took anotherscreenshot. Look very closely at the blue arrow Jayce, it tells all.Potato Flakin (talk) 02:39, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Spooky found some waste. Also, your screenshot makes no sense, because my image dimensions do not go out as far as that screenshot claims they do. Given that waste is not part of image quality, especially when it's so minor as this, I really don't like wasting a reupload getting rid of one or two pixels that need to be intentionally found.

I don't see any waste. CBA?

Rabbittail (Alt T) ~ CBA
if I need to darken this let me know

There's an out-of-place pixel on the tail tip that should be filled in. This is lovely, and also thanks for giving me advice on PB; it was really helpful!Potato Flakin (talk) 19:35, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

re-up you're welcome :)

the base coat should be much darker. 20:55, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

re-up like so?

Maybe a touch lighter? It's close, but the FG almost seems like a very dark smoky gray color

re-up 'my dog speaks more eloquently than thee'

'for SHAME' Could you expand the black on the shoulder downward a bit? It seems to cover more shoulder on the official artwork imo. 02:23, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

re-up 'for the REVOLUTION' idk what's going on with that shoulder shading but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

CBA?

Violetshine (Alt Q) - CBA
If it needs the tailtip and paws to be black, let me know. <span style="">19:59 Mon Dec 31

It might just be my eyes or something but she looks cross-eyed.

I have the eyes like this on other queens I've done. But I'll take a look in a little bit. We had a massive power outage last night and I need to finish checking outlets before I can plug my tablet back in. <span style="">18:20 Tue Jan 1

Reuploaded I switched the highlight around in --> eye. That should have fixed it. <span style="">20:13 Wed Jan 2

CBA? This is amazing. 23:50, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Bluestar (Alt. App) ~ For Approval
All colors from alt. queen. Comments? 18:38, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

God, I remember making this exact image years ago. Define the shading? Malina457 (talk) 21:19, January 2, 2019 (UTC)Malina

Reuploaded. 21:29, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Screech of Angry Owl (TB) ~ For Approval
fantabulous, I say!

Kittypet Blanks - For Approval
Pose is from a reference, I can show it if need be. <span style="">20:10 Wed Jan 2

Sun these are absolutely astounding! Could you add either a tag or bell to the collar? There’s usually one. :) 20:16, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Soooo cute! Can you move the collar a little bit down the neck? It kinda looks like it's choking them right now.. ^^' Also, the forearm closest to us looks overly thick. 23:22, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

woah!! love everyhting on this charart, i cant wait to see the next one. Starclanwilldarkme2 (talk) 00:16, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

This is amazing, Sun! Could you possibly make that <-- front leg a bit longer to match the length of the other? It seems a bit shorter. 03:28, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you also thicken the lineart on the hind paws just a bit? 03:56, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Rain (TB) ~ For Approval
20:12, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

I love this pattern =) Define the light on the tail?Potato Flakin (talk) 00:30, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Night (TB) - For Approval
20:53, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Make the mud patches a little bigger. She looks a bit barren.Potato Flakin (talk) 22:25, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

I think the size of the patches are fine, but maybe adding one or two more wouldn't hurt. Like on the legs furthest from us or on the head. 00:00, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

The size of the mud patches are fine and the entire pelt doesn't need to be overrun by mud.

Brook (tb) - For Approval
very nice blank 00:01, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Add some depth to the eyes, this is beautiful!Potato Flakin (talk) 00:26, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! May I have a second opinion on the eyes? Personally I think it's fine, but if someone else agrees it needs more depth I can add some^^ 00:36, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

I think it's fine, there's depth there already. Can you define the shading a tad. 00:41, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 01:41, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Pebble That Rolls Down Mountain (TB) - For Approval
All colors are from the cave guard! 00:24, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

can you smooth out the shading on --> and <-- these legs?Potato Flakin (talk) 00:28, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Er, which legs..? The ones closest to us? 00:30, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

--> is the left (our right) leg and <-- is the right (our left) leg.Potato Flakin (talk) 00:32, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the shading please? 03:25, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Potato, that still doesn't explain which legs you want Hawkey to smooth. There are two sets of left and right legs. Perhaps try using words like "back" "front" or "the front leg closest to us" or "the ---> front leg" instead? That might make it easier. 03:49, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Vec for the explanation! ^^ Mink, where specifically does the shading need to be defined? I thought I defined it pretty well. 04:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Could you smooth the mud a little?