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Stormtail (Star) ~ Tweaked
OA and tweaker is Ducksplash. Tweaked to darken. 01:27, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink? 00:14, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

The ear pink is the same colour of the warrior's, actually a little lighter I think and honestly, I do believe it's easy to see. idk if someone else agrees with you then I'll change it, but the warrior's ear pink will probably need changing if that happens. 05:51, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe blur or smudge it then? 11:50, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

blur shading 12:04, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload This isn't the original file so I cannot really do that stuff. I just blurred the highlights I'm using the lighten the shading (it turned really dark) idk if other people think I need to make these changes I'll nominate a redo, since I don't think Ducksplash is still around. 20:38, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Duck isn't around, nor would he give out his files if he was. You'll need to make do with what you've got, sorry.

Smooth out the body shading a bit more. 22:49 Sun Sep 13

Define the light on the chest 23:00, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Right if this can be tweaked, can I have some advice on fixing the shading? or maybe it's so obvious and I'm too tired to see it >< 07:17, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Alrighty, since you're asking for advice on what to do, I would like to extend the limit that you can have this tweak for, since multiple issues were brought up that had nothing to do with the nomination. That's hardly fair in the least to you, especially since you obviously weren't expecting it and only had the issues brought up when the image was posted.

I'd like to give you an extra three days, should you choose to take that. You'll now have until September 23rd for this, since it's not an easy tweak and getting it done in a week is something /I/ can barely do, and I've been here much longer than everyone else, barring Scarlet, Icy, and Splook.

For tweaking it, what I'd do is the following:
 * Find an approximate base color, and create a new layer on the bottom of the image. What this'll do isn't clear right at the moment, but you'll find it useful. Fill in that layer with the base (or close to it) coloring.
 * This might take a second or two, but try and seperate the eyes, lineart, ect. Anything that you can without distorting the image. If you can't separate the ear pink, that's totally fine. Having a base color below the main image layer helps in any straining pixels you might have, especially if you're told to smudge the ear pink to give it more of a furry look, which I think you might have, or the topic was brought up.
 * Once you have your different layers (eyes, lineart, anything else, shading tweaks if you already did them), then go back to the main image layer. A suggestion for this that I usually like is to use the blur tool and blur wherever you need to. If it starts to leak to where you can see the base color on the other layer show up, disregard it until you're done blurring- I suggested putting it there for a reason.
 * After you're done blurring, use a new layer (or layers) to add and fix shading wherever it's starting to leak, and lower/adjust the opacity wherever needed, and tweak anything else if you have to.

I know it sounds like a lot, but it's really much much easier than you think. It's just a matter of separating the image into workable layers. I've been doing it like this for a couple years now, and it really does work out quite well. If you're unable to do it like I suggested, then you can probably nominate it for a redo, or pass on the image to someone else- your choice. =D

Reupload I tried. 07:33, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on his back. 17:45, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 21:12, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

blur or smudge shading 03:05, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 07:37, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

I still think it's too hard edged. Try to blur it or smudge it more. 07:39, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload Tried a stronger brush. 22:46, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

I still think it's blotchy tbh. Smooth it out? 01:51, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Are you sure? Some of the shading is about to dissapear if I blur/smudge it more. Maybe give me a redline or something of where you think it's blotchy? Cause I think a lot of it isn't tbh. 05:04, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Bramblestar (W) - Redone
OA is sandy. All colors and pattern from leader and apprentice. 19:43, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

By the way I'm well aware the ear pink looks odd af. I'll fix that in the next upload. 19:43, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

also the other OAs were beebs and mounty, I think. 22:40, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs, tail, and head, as well as blur/smudge the pale parts please 23:03, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded:  please stop asking me to smudge the pale parts. they're not smudged on his apprentice and thats the one i'm matching. 23:11, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Um I said blur/smudge, so you could do either, it looks too uniform. I've told you this before .-. And define the light on the front legs please 23:15, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

<.< is that a scar under the tabby stripes? If so can you move it above the stripe layer please 23:17, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I'm not really sure what your attitude towards me is for, but alright. 23:20, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

There is no need for the <.<, Winter. Please refrain from hostile conduct on PCA's pages. If you have issues, take them elsewhere, thank you.

... .-. i wasn't having an attitude. wow. the <.< was peering eyes thanks :/ but anyway, dont forget the pale part under the tail 23:24, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

That is not what <.< means. It's used as an annoyed face by many people here, so please find something else to use, or don't use one at all. It sure seemed like an attitude, and I'm asking you as the leader of the project to tone it down. =/

Re-uploaded: Thank you cloudy c:. Also I always seem to forget the pale tail...I also think there might be waste, but it could also be my computer screen. 23:28, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

There is. It's at about the middle of the tail on --> side... at maybe six or so pixels out.

Re-uploaded: 10:39, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

that scar isnt on his shoulder. thats like the back of his neck. HotTeacher69 (talk) 07:46, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Guys does this seem kinda...light to you? I'm looking at it from a school computer and it seems /very/ pale, but on my computer its very dark. 17:44, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 23:08, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the paws 00:47, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded 00:51, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Define it more, it looks flat. 03:12, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

I cant see any light on the front paws whatsoever 03:20, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the back legs 03:27, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded 19:10, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe blur the pale parts and earpink a bit more? 22:51, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 19:52, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Define the tail shading,please. 05:03, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 15:44, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the paws, please. 01:39, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Bramblestar (Kit) - Redone
OA was Swiftpelt, Iceheart, Mount, Duck (a lot of people omg) and it looks like it was tweaked by Icebreeze and Breezefeather. Excuse me if I got that wrong. Lots of history on little bramblekit. Comments? 23:28, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad. 00:00, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

It's as dark as can be. Do you want me to try again? 12:05, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Bramblestar (D) ~ Declined
07:56, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Unsmudge his stomach for lack of words. His stomach is not smudged on any of the other chararts. Pale tail, and stretch the pale parts on the paws a little higher. Also, did you want the file? 12:06, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

I think I'm cool w/o the file. I did blur the pale parts, though, I didn't smudge them at all. I'll try to blur the shading there and I will see if that helps. 12:17, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 06:24, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

The scar is a bit lighter on the warrior. 21:40, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

And there's something that's going straight into the pale part. Is that the scar? It shouldn't be because it's shorter on the warrior and it gives the chest the idea that it's smudged, which confused me a tad. 11:39, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Per request. i'm taking over. 01:50, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Redscar (Star) - Tweaked
OA was Trollsky, tweaked to be reddish brown. 21:19, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

I can't see the earpink, would it be possible to lighten it? 22:53, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 20:43, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

The base color seems a little redder than the medicine cat's, can you try to match it? 23:19, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Base color for his MC is Pinestar's base, if that helps.

Re-uploaded Yeah that was helpful, thanks, is this better? 01:11, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

That is much better! :) Can you tweak the scar to match the medicine cat? It seems... yellow-er. Can you make sure the ear pink matches too? I'm just aware that is could just be shading. 22:21, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Reena (Ro) (K) ~ Tweaked
ok oops I misnamed it... Could someone rename this for me? 04:53, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading? 15:42, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 01:50, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Sandstorm (A) - Tweaked
OA is mounty. 04:54, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Did you change the shading placement? I swear it was the other way around. 22:26, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

It's not. It's the same. 01:51, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Smoky (KP) ~ Tweaked
OA was Ducksplash. Tweaked because of flat shading. 05:38, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the head shading? 02:43 Mon Sep 21

Longtail (A) ~ Tweaked
OA is Paleclaw and tweaker is me. Tweaked to change ear pink, although I don't think I got the right colour. Help? 22:20, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

use 5b352a 23:14, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Are you sure? It gives me a brownish colour and I'm supposed to match the kit and star. 23:48, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Meh.. That's basically the right color to use for a pale brown cat, and I kinda nominated the star. But whatever looks good for you 23:51, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

But the Star and kit were fine, and multiple people said that. The ear pink should match those two, since there's nothing wrong with either one of them.

Ok I think I see the problem. Try smudging the earpink to create ear fur. That, or add a layer of shading over it. 18:21, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:05, September 21, 2015 (UTC)