Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

Bellapaw ~ Silver Nomination
Huh, "Bellapaw". Leafstar, that is no Clan name! But still, she and Riley are such sweet kitties. Comments? 05:17 Thu Mar 10

I swear she and Rileypaw are supporting characters. I mean the entire reason ravenpaw went to SkyClan is because of them. 20:54, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Idk if they were supporting necessarily, but they are most definitely not minor like on their pages.

Actually, I remember when Trollsky had changed the categories, and they had said that it was because Bella was a supporting character, but Bellapaw was minor (she only appears with that name like twice). 22:51 Thu Mar 10

Alrighty then. CBV? 02:18, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

April FA
Nothing coming out next month and nothing really comes to mind for me. Always something from the list, I mean some of those character pages have been there a pretty long time. 02:12, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Just curious, but what determines if a character is on the list or not? Because I can't help but feel that Crowfeather, being such a major character, should probably be an FA sometime soon, but he isn't on the list, yet most of the characters on the list are minor... 02:31 Sat Mar 12

I believe cats on the list are cats who have been brought up in a previous FA discussion, but never made to a b=vote kind of thing. I personally think Crowfeather would be a good FA, but I feel like his Twilight section needs work.

Crowfeather! He'd be great, his article looks good. Hey Stealth if you don't mind do you think I could write his FA? I just really love Crowfeather and he's one of my favorite characters and his article looks really good as well. 02:53, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

No problems! I have no idea where to begin to write his FA post. 03:19, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

No disagreements here... Comments before vote? 21:46, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

I actually think you should wait more than two days before doing a CBV, Icy. =/ Especially because the deputy hasn't even had a chance to comment. I wouldn't mind Crowfeather, but at the same time, Icy, you just wrote the one for Gray Wing... so why not let someone else have a turn? It's been ages since I've written a featured article section, so I would actually like to do it this time around.

Because no one had any objects. And I told you Crowfeather is one of my favorite characters, and I asked first, and Gray Wing was my only PC FA I've ever written. It's not like I've written 90% of them this year. I asked to do this one, so I am going to, and I'll let the rest of you do the others. 03:29, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

"no one" had objections? Three or four people is not consensus. You should wait to see if anyone else is going to comment before CBVing something that had barely been up for 48 hours. What if someone did have an objection? Seriously, this rush to get things up isn't quality. It's impatience, and it needs to stop. Wait more than two days, considering we still have about two weeks of March left.

Wait 3-5 days for nominations Apple, especially leave it for five days for FA. On busier times, I do five days to give everybody a chance to read through. 07:40, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Alright Stealth, 5 days it is. Sorry. 11:36, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Character Overviews
Looking around on a few wikis, I've noticed that all of them have a brief description of the characters prior to going in depth in their history, for example:

Firestar was the leader of ThunderClan prior to his death. As an apprentice, he joined ThunderClan, abandoning his kittypet life and becoming Firepaw. During his training, he developed two friends - Graypaw and Ravenpaw. He figured out the reason behind Redtail's death thanks to Ravenpaw, and hid him in a barn. Firepaw then became Fireheart, and Graypaw Graystripe. Fireheart spent much of his warrior life setting out to prove Tigerclaw's treachery, and when Tigerclaw is caught in the act trying to kill Bluestar, Fireheart saves Bluestar's life. Fireheart then becomes the deputy of ThunderClan, saving it from several more plots of revenge by Tigerclaw, who becomes Tigerstar. Firestar won the battle against BloodClan when Tigerstar used them to try to take over the forest, killing Scourge. Following the events of the first series, he finds a lost Clan and rebuilds them to become SkyClan along with his mate, Sandstorm. Following the events of the first series, he leads his Clan through the mountains to their new home and helps them settle in. In the books after, he continues to remain ThunderClan's leader until his death in the The Last Hope, killing Tigerstar once and for all.

It's honestly just a brief brief description, or a summary of their lives in which I think would be very benefical to character articles, however, main characters, not minor characters. That's a rough guideline of some sort, but like I think a character such as Greeneyes wouldn't need it. Then again, this is just a very rough idea and it's something I doubt would go through anyways, I just wanted to suggest it. Comments on this? Try not to kill me by the way. 01:30, March 15, 2016 (UTC)

I actually agree Icy, I think it's a pretty good idea. When I saw it on other wikis before I used to think that it wasn't a very good idea, but now that I think about it, it would be a really practical way for someone just to read about a character and know what they did throughout the series without having to spend like an hour to read the whole history section. Because some of the major characters, like Firestar and Gray Wing and such, have really long histories and it would be a relief to also have a summary paragraph and just see all of what happened to them instead of having to skim the whole thing. So basically I like the idea. 02:37 Tue Mar 15

Eh, I'm not sure if I like this idea or not... mainly because I feel a lot of the main characters already have fairly large articles as it is... but I suppose I'll take a bit more time and think about it before fully having an opinion.

I think that perhaps it'd be nice, but I think we should get the main articles of characters first. It's a idea, but don't think it should be too high of a priority because of the amount of articles on the concerns list.

My basic point is that I think a brief short of the character would be beneficial in the long run. I know that when I look at a character I don't really have time to read the entire article so seeing the short description does help me. And this isn't a matter of laziness, I just think it's convenient. 03:32, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Mistfeather - Silver Nomination
I like him. ;-;

Fernpaw (TAQ), Ferntail, and Featherpelt
Bit of a conundrum here, guys. We have three different cats, but only two of them actually appear.

Ferntail is apparently supposed to be the kit of Sedgewhisker and Emberfoot, and Crowfeather's apprentice, as seen on Kate's blog. She isn't shown in the allegiance list for The Apprentice's Quest, both the iBooks preview and the official release.

Featherpelt appears, though, and she has the same description as Ferntail, but she is, without a doubt, the Featherpaw from Bramblestar's Storm, and one of Crowfeather's apprentices. There isn't anything doubting the canonocity of this character whatsoever... but it is interesting that she shares the same exact description and mentor as "Ferntail".

There's also a Fernpaw, and this she-cat has a totally different description. She's a dark brown she-cat, an allegiance-only character, and doesn't show up in the list we got from Kate.

What exactly should we do about this? We can't really add anything for Ferntail, since she doesn't exist as of the book release. Should we just delete Ferntail's page? Given that Ferntail is also listed as a kit of Sedgewhisker and does have littermates... this doesn't quite make sense.

We can't just have an empty article, though.

Add Ferntail to the minor chacter page? Inconsistencies. Great editors, Warriors. Just great. I'm actually getting seriously tired of all of these inconsistencies 03:31, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

But Ferntail doesn't exist anymore, so she's technically not a character. I don't think we can put her on the minor characters page.

Juniperkit - Silver Nomination
I already know I'm gonna get told to add the quote about them dying, so I already did so...even though it's kinda pointless. Both this and Dandelionkit have the same basic summary, since they're mentioned once and don't have the chance to have their own character development.

Dandelionkit - Silver Nomination
Same as Juniperkit. Poor little things.

Unoffical leaders (SPOILERS)
Sorry I should've brought it up with PC prior to doing anything. Okay so unofficial leaders, I know that this has been discussed before but in Darktail's case, he was heavily referred to a leader so many times Alderpaw was just like "why isn't he called Darkstar you dumdums". He refers to himself as a leader several times, and they drove SkyClan out and he is the leader of the rogues technically, and they all listen to him and stuff like that. Does that make him a leader, or should we put it as unofficialy? Same thing goes for Jingo, by the way. 14:21, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

A leader is a leader, regardless. At the same time, it would also be appropriate to clearly define what the leader rank is. Is it only a Clan rank, and if it is, then why are these cats clearly labeled as leaders of their own group? If so, then what's to say for cats like Furled Bracken and Stone Song, who were very much leaders of the Ancient group of cats we saw in Long Shadows and Sign of the Moon, and why aren't they entitled to a leader charart?

Is our blank only a Clan leader charart? If so, then why are all Clan leaders marked with "Leader" instead of "Clan Leader", when the leader rank itself is shown to be used elsewhere? Slash's group, Darktail's group (they'd also get a page, I think?????), Jingo's group, the Ancient cats, BloodClan, ect. There are multiple groups within the series that have a clear leader of their group, but they don't get anything special.