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Lichenfur (Lo) ~ Tweaked
OA’s are Iceheart22 Stoneclaw33 and tweakers are Mount Everest and Ducksplash. Tweaked to remove underbite. 07:50, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Lets see... Could you add more light on the main body? I don't know, it just seems really dark. Nice job! ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 10:03, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

I think the light on the main body is fine. 10:04, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I still think it could be defined on the legs a little bit, if not on the main body. ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 10:05, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

???...second...well...another opinion please? 01:47, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's fine. 01:51, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

I actually think the light on the legs could be defined- it looks like the entire thing is in shadow.

Reupload Wouldn't hurt to do it anyway. 02:12, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define the overall shading a bit? It looks a bit flat to me...but that could be my iPad screen 03:39 Wed Oct 28

Reupload 05:40, October 29, 2015 (UTC)

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I feel like doing a second tweak on shading is a bit too much for an image, and things start to lose their quality by then (unless the person has the file). Personally, I'd advise going back to the original image before the shading tweak (unless that tweak changed more than just shading), and modifying that instead. An image can only take so much shading/marking tweaks before it starts to just get a bit lost. If people aren't cool with this, I'd totally understand, I just think it would be the best option to end up with a good quality image. If you stick with this version, lighten up the shading and maybe add some highlights or something to recover the bits that have just gotten lost in the shading tweaks.

Alright, well I agree the shading needs to be darkened as I forgot to lower the opacity. The rest I'd like a second opinion please. 06:59, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Why is everyone asking for a second opinion all of the sudden? Paleh knows very well what she's talking about- she used to be the project's deputy. It's not necessary to constantly ask for an opinion.... For all intents and purposes, I do agree with her though. Most of this image also appears to be in shading.

Reupload I was asking for second opinion because I didn't quite understand what Paleh mean't, and they seemed a but unsure themself. I've lowered the shading and I'm not sure highlights will bring up the spots in the shading. If the spots are still lost in the shading, can I have suggestions as to how to fix it? 01:20, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Well that's sort of the thing, at this point it'll be pretty difficult to bring out the parts lost in the shading, hence why I'd personally suggest using the last version before the shading tweak(s) were done if possible. Highlights run the risk of losing the markings, but they might be the best option if staying with this version of the image. Using a layer type like overlay might work a bit better than other options when it comes to not losing the markings though. Other than that, the best thing I can suggest is just to sort of thin the shading out, so it covers less of the image. But I'm not entirely sure what you're shading layer looks like, so I can't say whether that'll make the image flat again or not. But right now, the main parts that are getting a bit lost are the shoulder and the head, and to some degree both the far legs.

Also side note, can you add some extra shading to the bottom of the tail? It's pretty flat over there right now.

Reupload I used the version before the shading tweak (just defined shading, that's all) did the jaw tweak then tried shading and highlights on the overlay option. 00:17, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Much better! Shading's much better, and it matches the elder better as well now. Could you either define the shading on the face (as in make it less blurred), or add more? It's looking a bit flat. The rest looks good.

Reupload 03:13, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Dapplepelt (W) - Tweaked
OA was me, tweaked to remove white. Not sure if this color looks ok but I'm not removing the patches. I think the eyes are also the wrong color (they were changed after I was done with them) so I'll fix that on this and the MC in my next reupload  03:46, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Could you add some more brown patches elsewhere to make these ones fit in better with the rest of the pattern?

Maybe make the patches black? If you don't want to, that's fine, though. I just think the brown color is a bit jarring. 4:13 Fri Oct 30

Reuploaded  04:36, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Same as the med. 09:13, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Hey ivy i have mfv right here and it says dappled pelt is an orange and white tortoiseshell. 12:41, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

It's probably just me or my monitor but the new brown patches look kinda green?

There appears to be a bit of waste under her chin and around her tail. -- 18:02, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Snow, Dapplepelt isn't actually described as dappled anywhere? Plus, dappled is a word used in warriors on more than just torties, and a word rarely used to describe cats outside of the series at all. So basically all it has to do is fit the definition of "spots or round patches" if they're described as dappled. It doesn't have any "official" link with any color or genetics or anything.

Paleh, I think you misunderstood. She's saying Dappled Pelt is described as an orange-and-white tortie, not that she's dappled. Her name in Dawn of the Clans and Moth Flight's Vision is Dappled Pelt, not Dapplepelt.

Ohhh whoops, my bad. I thought that didn't quite make sense... but anyways, where's the cite? I don't see it on the page. I get that it's in mothflight's vision, but it's not currently on the page, so

Well, the book's not released yet, so we can't officially add it. Winter got her copy before the release date.

In that case, should we hold off her images then? I don't know when that's supposed to be released but if it's just going to be reverted, shouldn't the work not be put into it? 03:10, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Since she has a cite now for the white can we revoke the tweak nomination? 06:00, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

no because she's an orange-and-white tortoiseshell, therefore we need to get rid of the brown and reduce the amount of black, basically calling her a calico 13:13, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Dapplepelt (MC)- Tweaked
^Same as above  03:47, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded  04:36, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading, especially on the paws 09:12, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

her eyes should be gold. 11:38, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Dapplepelt (Ancient) ~ Tweaked
12:14, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Is that white pixel at the very top of the eye supposed to be eye shine/highlights, or did it just get missed when coloring?

i didnt touch the eye it was already there. 17:41, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

Birchfall (K) ~ Tweaked
My first tweak! OAs are Shaf Girl, Mistypebble, and Skt, and tweaked by Brambleshade.DA. Tweaked for lack of shading definition. (I wasn't sure if this was considered finished or not, considering the last tweak was the 13th of October, which is pretty recent... it was still on the list, so I reserved it. Sorry if I royally screwed up...) -- 20:06, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

I cannot see the stripes under shading. Maybe lighten the shading a bit or try to make the shading layers overlay instead of normal or something. 00:02, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Midgepelt (W) ~ Tweaked
OA was me, tweaked to fix patches. I tried a few different things: changed color of patches, changed color and opacity of the ragged fur lineart around the patches, and smudged the patches. If anyone has any other ideas, I'll be glad to try them. 22:21, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Is it me, or do the patches and earpink look kind of purple-ish? 23:08, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I went back to the color the patches originally were. 23:16, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

It was nominated for a tweak because of the color the patches were orignally ... 12:15, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I wasn't sure, so thanks for clearing it up for me. 15:26, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Gray Wing] (Ancient) ~ Tweaked
OA was me, tweaked to darken. It also killed the shading >_> 09:05, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Blur or smudge the highlights and shading 10:59, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Squirrelflight (Alt. Queen) ~ Tweaked
OA was me, tweaked because the highlights were apparently throwing the color off. 09:05, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

There's waste 10:58, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

And she still looks too light 12:26, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Where is the waste? And also, unless my computer is screwing with colors or I need glasses, it's not too light. Which image are you comparing it to? 13:42, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

The waste is to --> side of the tail, near the top. Also, I think the image could be darkened just a tad more, as it is a bit lighter than the images you showed. 22:12, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Bramblestar (D) - Tweaked
OA was Sandwich with a redone by me, Loonie, a tweak by Ivy, a redone by Beebs, and a redone by Fox. Tweaked the stripes, pale part, and scar and I got the file from fox so basically everything is the same except for what I just listed. 12:19, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

The stripes honestly look redone. Please revert it back to the old version. Tbh this as a whole just looks redone except for the eyes and the ear pink. 13:27, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Uh wasnt it tweaked because the stripes didnt match? 13:31, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

check wht its being tweaked for before you start accusing people of shit, thanks. 13:33, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

The stripes are fine as they are, since they were being tweaked for not matching. Which, they really didn't match, so I see nothing wrong with what she did.

can you blur or smudge the stripes a bit more? 16:32, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

it's not redone. if you want the file fox sent to me you can have it. 18:42, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

also, the stripes didn't match and basically since the deputy and warrior should look exactly the same i copied the stripes from the warrior. also, i sent the file to the skype group and both you and fox said it was fine. so i'm still confused. 18:43, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

If you replaced everything with your layers, except for the eyes and the ear pink, then it's technically redone? The stripes could have been tweaked, the sides never needed to match 100000% >.> 23:25, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

I didn't replace everything? I only replaced the stripes and the pale parts, and I /tweaked/ the scar. I thought we agreed that the stripes should look the same on the warrior? 23:26, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Burnt, chill out. She replaced the stripes and pale parts, and tweaked the scar. That still very much leaves the shading- which I can tell she didn't touch, and the base. The image needs to match the warrior, as it's the same stance, except for the tail. If you and Fox said it was fine, then there's absolutely no need to continue to bring it up. The file was offered to Icy so she could do this without redoing the image. It's not redone, let it go and calm down.

I'm honestly 100% ok with Icy redoing the stripes. 06:53, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (D) - Tweaked
OA was Night shine, redone by Paleclaw and Oblivion, then tweaked by me. Tweaked so that the white's only on the underbelly. 21:50, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

There's like a bright line on his hind leg where it meets the white underbelly idk what that is 22:45, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded When I darkened it the last time I tweaked it, I missed those pixels. 22:54, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Mossfire (W) ~ Redone
finally the evil is dead 05:17, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Can you try and keep the pattern sround the same ss the old image? There was really nothing wrong with tha pattern 06:05, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

nope, it wasn't mentioned in the nomination or anything. not obligated to. 06:07, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, if it's not mentioned or asked in the nomination, there's nothing wrong with redoing it to have a completely different pattern... just don't gang up on him and demand he change it.. also can you define the tail shading or is that not possible?

Turtle Tail (Ancient) - Redone
Just wanted to post it before I lost it. I am aware it does not fully match and I'm retweaking the patches and stuff now.

Nettleclaw (W) - Tweaked
OA is me and I darkened the stripes. I lost the file that had the other ones, so I did ask permission to use a different style and redo the shading.