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Feathertail- Redone


Hey Hawkfire here! I just got finished with her. (really sorry Shimmer!) I fixed her ear pink and her eye, and lightened the shading on her tail. I can't get the old pic of the oringinal Feathertail! I accidently uploaded it with the same name. Somebody help please. Hawkey  Ready for action 13:34, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

The ear needs to be blended more.--Stonestar 13:35, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Something looks funky about the way it was blended- I mean from the original, not what you did. I'm not sure if it's because the lines got smudged in or they just had a weird shading style, but I think you should go over the shading a bit and then reblur it.Same for the tabby markings, they look a bit strange, so maybe if you went over them in the same color then blurred them again that would work. --♫ insaneular ♫ 15:09, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Very good, but I believe Feathertail should be long-haired. It's because a. she's RiverClan; they generally have thick fur and b. she was said to have a feathery/fluffy tail.  Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 17:57, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Insanular, umm...wow I am not sure I can do all of that. The tabby stripes look amazing and the shading is great to me. I will change her to a long hair, even tho I never imagined her that way. Silverstream is short hair, and she's from RiverClan. If I did have to change her to long-hair, I would have to redo the whole image. Do you really want me to do that? Hawkey  Ready for action 19:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I could change her to a long-hair if you want, with oly minor edits..-- Darkhallows Lair 20:22, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


 * You wont exactly have to redo her all the way. The technique I use is past the image in paint and color the lineart white. Then take the lineart of the long hair and past it over, with white being transparent and you just have to remove the eye out of the other image. The only problem is you will have to add more coloring to the tail area and the chest.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 20:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Shady that would be very kind of you! Now all I have to do is mess with the ear pink. :)Thanks so much! Hawkey  Ready for action 21:46, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

You may need to work on the tail but here.-- Darkhallows Lair 07:04, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much! She's gorgeous! I will fix the shading on the tail and blend the ear pink, then she should be good to go!! Hawkey  Ready for action 23:23, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

It needs to be done soon, because this has surpassed Tweak Week and been up for more than a week. If it isn't worked on soon, I'll have to take it down. -- Bramble My Realm 01:33, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

In the transition between shorthair and longhair, it looks like some of the lineart on the stomach lost its double pixel, so it looks thinner than the rest. Fix that, the shading on the tail, and blend the ear pink, and it will look great. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 15:32, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Ooh sorry! I am working on her right now. Hawkey  Ready for action 20:22, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Okay how does this look? Hawkey  Ready for action 22:49, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There's a strip of light on the tail, and the whole body needs more shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:31, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Pine for approval


OK my Fist try so tell me what is not right Brambleclaw14 Talk 08:32, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Brambleclaw, that's really good for a first try! Lol, you just barely beat me to putting up the first rogue for approval ever, since the blanks are fairly new, but... XD I can only see a few things you need to change: First, you need shading. It looks like you might have a little, but you need much more. Just decide where your light source is and then figure out where the highlights and shadows would fall. Next, this isn't necessary, but you might want to make the fur slightly off white, because in reality cats aren't perfectly white. Then, the spots. I really like your arrangement, but make a few of them different sizes so it looks a bit more natural. Then, just take the Blue tool (almost every image program has one) and go over all of the color- but don't blur the lines! I know this can sound like a lot to take in, but trust me, that is really good for a first try. ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 12:24, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Is it just me or is the picture stretched? Also, it looks as if you put shading but in a cream color. You don't want that color for shading. What I recommend for shading is making the cat slightly less white and then taken the burn tool and going over it a lot of times until you can see and differentiate what is shading and what is pelt, but don't forget to blend.*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 13:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

It does look stretched. I'm going with Swallowtip on this one. Try making the cat fur a little more grayer, and use the burn tool all over the belly and the chest. -- Rain whisker 09 15:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

OK I will do all of it soon :/ Brambleclaw14 Talk 16:31, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

The whole thing is a little fuzzy.-- Darkhallows My den 04:43, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Well it's a try :/ sould the old file be got rid of? Brambleclaw14 Talk 09:49, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Didn't you upload the file with the same name? -- Rain whisker 09 12:30, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

nope :/ Brambleclaw14 Talk 14:36, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

You should always upload over the old file. The corrcet file name for this image would be something like: Pine.rogue.png Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:46, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

OK I will, if I upload it more Brambleclaw14 Talk 08:19, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

OK, this file is now called "File:Pine.rogue.png, per suggestion, if I upload any more they will be uploaded over the top of this file. As to what I've done: It shouldn't be streached, if it is then it's a problem with the blank template. Shouldn't be fuzzy (and if it is... well, cats are fuzzy :)). I've added some shading in. Redone the spots and ears. Thanks Brambleclaw14 Talk 11:29, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

He's nearly there you just need to add a touch of shading on the tail and blend the ear pink into the pelt a bit more. -- Dawnfeather talk! 12:17, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

OK will do so soon Brambleclaw14 Talk 13:05, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

I've done it now. I also had to redo the spots, because I deleted them by accident Brambleclaw14 Talk 13:41, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Very nice! Just color in his eye and give him a pupil and a highlight. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:49, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Ahh yes I was going say I can't find what eye color he has, and what is the pupil? Brambleclaw14 Talk 07:14, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

oops I know what the pupil is :) I will do the highlight soon, Brambleclaw14 Talk 14:00, September 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * sorry this is being so long, but I will do it. Brambleclaw14 Talk 08:45, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK then I put in the pupil, for the eye color well you can see what color it is. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:49, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - The pupil looks strange; try looking at some of the approved rogue's eyes. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:30, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK then I will do it on thursday :/ (and what is the (m) for?) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:35, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think (M) stands for Mosswhisker. -- Rain whisker  12:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:40, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Flora - approval
well... my first pic, o god please don't hurt me!<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 13:43, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

She's cute Swallowtip! I'm like half asleep and the only thing I see is the eye doesn't have a pupil.-- Darkhallows Lair 14:32, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I added a black spot to make the pupil more noticeable, better?<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 14:41, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Is the nose supposed to be pink? I thought we made them black (except for the queen blanks). -- Rain whisker 09 15:15, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - This is great for your first image! Blackclaw, the noses should be pink if on the blanks they are not colored in black. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:20, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

The brown under the ear cuts off in an abrupt line, can you smooth this out a little? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:25, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I know it doesn't look much different, but I tried to get it there with the blur tool and it didn't work so I smudged it.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 19:49, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

It looks great! Very nice job. -- Rain whisker 09 20:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Try taking the brown patch and spreading it over that little patch on white on the ear pink to make it look more natural. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:56, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened ear pink and extend the brown patch.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 02:21, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

She's very nice, but some of the patches are too circular for their own good. Mabe make them a bit more randomly shaped, especially that one on the belly? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 10:12, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened the patches and made them more random.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 17:30, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just give the eye and nose some color and she should be ready. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:31, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

That was dumb of me to forget that. Oh well, Reuploaded.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 00:03, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Also, her back looks a bit blank. Maybe you should add one more patch there. DOn't forget to blend! =D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:18, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

And all of your lovely shading has gone! You'll have to redo that. Just do hese two things and she should be ready.

ReuploadedI wouldn't call it lovely, but thanks, who ever you are. Made a patch on the back and added shading.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 00:22, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just blur your shading more and it should be ready. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:21, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

ReuploadedBlended the shading more.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 20:59, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Much better. Comments before approval in 24 hours? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:03, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Add some more shading on the white parts of her, and add some highlights. -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 22:23, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded added more shading, but highlights aren't necessary and if Mosswhisker thinks it okay then I'm not adding them.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:13, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Better. Repeating 24 hours. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:27, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Buzzardtail- For approval
Well, this is my first charart... <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 15:37, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good for your first charart, I only see a few problems:


 * Add shading and blend it, making it look real
 * Blend the ear pink and make it darker, it looks fluro
 * Add highlights on the pelt

Hawkey  Ready for action 17:22, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I can't see any shading, add some and use the blur tool to make his pelt seem for 3-D. And blur the ear, make it not as bright. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;aqua; background:silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Peacesong Click Here To Go To........My Talk Page 18:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

They're right. Make the ear pink a triangle shape in the centre of the ear and blend a little. Despite what Hawke said above, don't add highlights until you've got the shading sussed as it'll make it more difficult and the image may not even need them. Get the shading and ear sorted and then see about highlights. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:23, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

OK. I'll fix that stuff. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:00, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can someone give me some tips on shading? I always get it too dark, and I don't know where to put it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:11, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really good at shading, either, but what I did was get the smudge tool, set the brush size to about 3 or 5, and then just smudge from the outline. (I did this in Pixlr.) And then I blurred it together by clicking on the blur tool and setting it to about 3-5. As I said, I'm not really sure about the best shading tips, but maybe that can help a little bit. Also, I noticed a couple of other things.

Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 00:11, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * The right ear is just a little bit darker than the rest of his fur.
 * Try blending the ear pink some more. The ear pink it really standing out right now.

Thanks! I'll go fix that stuff. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 00:53, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay. Anything else? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 00:21, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

I think the shading is on the back, the hind leg, and where the tail connects to his body. And the back ear should be darker as well. -- Rain whisker 09 18:16, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I tried to get it similar to some of the approved images, but it doesn't look quite right to me.... :( <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:28, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading into the pelt. -- Rain whisker 09 20:07, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

It needs a lot more shading. I can tell you used some, but I can barely see it. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:13, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

ReuploadedOkay, I have made the shading darker, and blended it as much as I could. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 23:55, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

You've now blurred the whole outline. Make the ear pink smaller, more central and a slightly paler colour. There is a smudge of lineart above her nose. Unblur the outline and then make the shading thicker and blend it (without touching the lineart) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:25, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the ear, and tried to fix the shading, but I still can't get it right :( <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 16:02, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry Morningleaf! You'll get it eventually - it takes most people a few tries. You've got the ear pink sorted now, which is good. On the shading, it's now the right darkness and thickness, just a little blotchy. You need to keep it as one clean consistent ine. Then blend the inside edges carefully so they start to run into the rest of the colour. Do not use the smudge tool though as this will make it streaky. Also, you need to remove the shading a little from the muzzle and a coupe of other places. At the moment you have shading following the whole lineart. Just choose the direction of your light source and then think about where the shadows would fall and put your shading there. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:15, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Try blending the shading with the blur tool; in pixlr, the blur tool is the one that looks like a rain drop, and when you hold the mouse over it, I think it says "Blur Tool", but I can't remember...but that should blend it. I highly reccomend putting the brush size at about 3-7 (square), and keeping the strength at 100.


 * If you accidentally hit the lineart inside the picture, make sure to color back in the lineart pixels by putting the pencil brush at size 1 (circle or square, doesn't matter), and put the color to black. Then, just color where the lineart is blurred, and the lineart should return.
 * If you accidentally blurred/smudged it outside of the picture, then just put the eraser at 1 and erase the spots outside of the lineart.

I hope this can help some! And don't worry, you'll get the hang of it eventually! It just takes time and practice. :) Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:37, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention this: there is so much shading on the front leg, that I can barely see its actual color. Try using less shading there. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Stripes- For Approval
Heres my first rogue! It took forever to do the stripes! Comments? Hawkey  Ready for action 17:17, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfire, this is beautiful! The only things I can see are: 1. the ear pink is too light and needs to be blurred 2. the shading needs to be darker and look more like shading; right now it just looks like blobs of darker color. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 17:34, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M)- I love the pattern of your stripes! Just do what Sparrowsong suggested and it should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? Darkened shading and ear pink Hawkey  Ready for action 00:31, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

The shading should be blurred into the pelt a little more.-- Darkhallows My den 04:48, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Ugh, I tried but whenever I try to blur the shading, it messes up the stripes. I may just have to withdraw this if I don't figure out something Hawkey  Ready for action 20:22, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the back is too much, try bluring it! -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 22:59, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

My only suggestion would be to lighten the shading so it doesn't look so dark compared to the pelt. But then the shading wouldn't be there so... -- Rain whisker 09 12:08, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Brackenfur - For Approval


Here's Brackenfur, my second-favorite warrior (Tawnypelt is my #1 fave). Hopefully it's better than my first Brackenfur, which looked like a possessed chihuahua. Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 18:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I broke out laughing when I read your comment about the possessed chihuahua. This is good! Just make it so your ear pink isn't touching the bottem of the ear, and see if you can blend it more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:49, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

I think it looks very nice! Just blend the shading a little more! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;aqua; background:silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Peacesong Click Here To Go To........My Talk Page 18:51, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the shading and the ear pink. Is it better now? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 18:57, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

The transition between shading and regular pelt is still too hard. Blend until you can't see a line separating them. The two tabby stripes coming out from his chest, separate them a little bit, it looks likes one big awkward stripe. -- Bramble My Realm 21:26, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 01:06, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

...Any comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 20:46, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

If you could get rid of the mark just below his eye, it would be better. It looks crowded in that area. Also, on the back, there is a strip of light just after the shading and against the lineart. -- Bramble My Realm 21:23, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

I've fixed the eye mark...I don't know what you mean by 'strip of light.' Would you mind circling it or something? Thanks. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 02:41, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

You need to extend the shading right up to the lineart on the back - basically, you've missed a spot right next to the lineart. I don't think a diagram is realy necessary to explain this. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:40, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

I think I've fixed it now. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 17:52, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Now you've blurred the lineart there a bit Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:30, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Un-blurred the lineart. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 22:27, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Is there anything else that I need to fix? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 01:38, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

you should change the eye, try and use technique that the other warriors (erm...see Oakheart) have.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 02:19, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the eye. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 03:39, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

This looks great, but I thought Brackenfur had amber eyes. I don't know where it said his eye color was, but I thought it was amber... Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:54, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it ever mentioned his eye color, Ice. I imagined him with blue eyes (like Honeyfern and Poppyfrost), but we can't really be sure... <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 17:19, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

That's okay, you have a fine point. I think it's okay if his eyes stay blue. I was just thinking that Honeyfern and Poppyfrost got their blue eyes down the bloodline from Frostfur. I imagined him with amber eyes, because lots of the golden and brown tabbies we have seen so far have all had amber eyes. But I think that blue eyes will be fine. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:50, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Alright then. Anything need to be fixed? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 04:33, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Hazelstar- For Approval
I'm on a leader spree! Three leaders in a row. XD Lol. Anyway, here's Hazelstar. Originally, he was Redstar, but, then I figured out Redstar was already reserved, so, I lightened him up, and turned him into Hazelstar! Comments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 20:44, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Very good. Just blur the shading transition some more. -- Bramble My Realm 21:21, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Err... is there supposed to be color under his hind leg? -- Rain whisker 09 23:36, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Blend all of the shading a whole lot.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 18:00, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Can you darken the shading, blend the edges a little more and make the ear pink slightly smaller so it doesn't fill the whole ear. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:38, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? Or, does he need to be blended more? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:49, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

This is better and yes he does need more bending. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:49, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedleaf-For Approval
This is Spottedleaf!!Please tell me how to make her better!!<span style="color:Orange;background:Blue;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Shim-Shim ★ 22:05, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I like this alot! :D Just darken the shading on the bottem of the herbs a bit more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

The one thing that's realy bothering me is her tail - it looks striped. :\ -- Quiet !...

She looks to... blurry. -- Darkhallows Lair 04:19, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Her tail is suppose to be a brown TABBY tail.<span style="color:Orange;background:Blue;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Shim-Shim ★ 17:20, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Darn it, her description is WAY too long for me to remember correctly. >w< -- Quiet !... 19:51, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I think her tail is supposed to be white tipped. I agree her description is rather complacated. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:56, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

where does it say that she has a white tipped tail?<span style="color:Orange;background:Blue;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Shim-Shim ★ 17:05, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

My bad. You were right, it's black tipped. By the way I love the image. I see nothing wrong. Hope it gets approved. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 18:02, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

She's like my favourite character!!nice job!!!<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">ღ Şũήמy ღ 18:10, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Love the image, but I do think you blurred her alot and with the shading you could lighten it up some on the paws. They so close to gray, that they should atleast give some closeness to white. On her back I can't really tell if you gave her any shading at all.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 21:49, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Loner Blanks - For Approval


(M) - I did more of a Melonlemon-style with these blanks and I'm pretty happy with the way they turned out. I also made an example (The shading might be in the wrong places though.)



Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

These are great! Give the muzzle a bit more of a stop and the ears look weird... but I really like them. - Darkhallows Lair 22:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

this looks really good Mosswhisker! but since they're loners ,wouldn't the fur be a bit scruffier?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Turquoise; background:Black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Turquoise;"> ☆Darkkeh☆ uh...hi 22:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

For some reason the head looks a bit small to me... but they look great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 23:35, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Mosswhisker... you're amazing at making blanks! There are only a few things that I can say about these. Firstly, the neck looks a bit too thin, almost pinched, maybe you could make it a bit thicker. Also, I think there should be a bit more definition between the neck and the foreleg, it looks a little too smooth to me. These are incredible, though! <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 23:39, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks guys! I'll change them tomorrow, after school. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 00:03, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Okay! I changed the muzzles so they have a stop, fixed the foreleg, and fixed the neck. (All I did was shorten it, and I think that helped.) I also didn't know what was wrong with the ears, but I did make them less pointy. I didn't change the fur because it's pretty scruffy as it is, and Loners wouldn't be a scruffy as Roughes. I didn't change the head size becuase when I inceased in by a mear 2 pixles, it looked waaay to big. I also got rid of the gray lines on the longhaireds. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:35, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

The ears look a little small. Can you make them a bit bigger? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:19, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

The toes on their paws look a little weird... could you change them? -- Rain whisker 09 20:22, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Changed the toes and (even though it's hard to see) widened the ears. I also changed the shape of two of the paws a bit. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:55, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think there great. I just think that the eyes are a little small. Other then that I hope they get approved before long. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:05, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know..the eyebrows look awkward?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think the whiskers are a little short. But they're great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 12:05, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'll fix these tomorrow. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:55, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few things - Don't get me wrong - i think that these are good, and I know that you've put a lot of effort into them. I'm just trying to help. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * The legs are all different lengths. Tey get longer and longer towards the right of the image. The front paw which is bent in the action of walking should be shorter than the others, (because it is bent and therefore not at it's full length) but at the mkoment it is too long.
 * The body is slanted downwards (towards the front of the cat) This may look okay as you finish up the image without being adjusted, but you can have a go at making it more evn if you want to.
 * The ears looks to thin. Don't change the height right now, but have a look at the ears. Also, the back one should probably be on the other side. maybe just fiddle around a bit.
 * The muzzle - it just looks weird to me, no offense. Lots of it is out of proportion and place just within that small space. Open up an approved blank and these, and carefully chck the face, moving around the pixels until they look similar-ish.

(M) - I fixed zeh whiskers. I didn't change the eyes because I couldn't get them to look right, and I don't know what you mean by "eyebrows".
 * Thanks Dawn! I'll fix those things tomorrow. (I'm suffering from chronic lazyness right now.) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  21:52, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Lol, sorry Moss. I thought the whiskers were eyes, and the eyes were eyebrows.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:46, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ratscar - For Approval
Alright, this is my first charart! Well, what do you think? I feel like I need a lot more shading, and I think that the scar looks a little weird... Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 20:15, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the scar looks strange, you should blend it a little bit, add some more shading and then blur it, otherwise......it looks okay. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;aqua; background:silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Peacesong Click Here To Go To........My Talk Page 22:43, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - This is good for your first image! For the scar, lighten it so it's more pink, blur it thoroghly, and try putting it horazontally across the back. Lighten the ear pink and blur it too. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:20, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Okay, what else can I do to improve? I feel like I went crazy on the shading, and that the scar is too big, but I'm not really sure how to make it any smaller without destroying some of the shading, or the scar itself. Can anybody give me any suggestions, and tell me what you think? Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 00:59, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, since no one has said anything yet, can I just ask about the shading? I think I got it too dark, and I'm thinking if I could have gone without the highlights or not... Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 21:07, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Whoops, sorry. Lighten the shading, as it is pretty dark right now, and try making the scar a little shorter, just past the edge of your image. Also, make the eye more like the other approved warrior's eyes. Then we'll work on shading. ;) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  22:46, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I made the scar shorter, and I tried to make the shading a little less dark by blurring it a little more, but I think it looks messier now. And I tried doing what you said about the eye, too. Anything else besides needing to make the shading even brighter? I'm not sure how to make it any brighter than it is now. Any suggestions? Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 23:40, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - To lighten the shading you run the dodge tool - a black stick with a black ball - over your shading. I can fix it if you want me too. And the ear pink is much to bright; use a color simalar to other brown cats. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:45, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I fixed the ear pink, or at least tried to, and I tried to make the shading brighter. Do I need to make it even brighter? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:43, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Select the dodge tool, and in the box and the top set it to shadows. Then bring the stength down to 7. That should lighten the shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:18, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Is the shading bright enough? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:10, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Getting there! Lighten it a bit more though. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:57, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

He's awesome, Icethroat! The things I see though, is that you may want to blend it some more, and I thought I saw a little bit of blurred lineart somewhere... *shrugs* Maybe not. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:37, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded! I brightened and blended the shading a lot more. Or, at least tried to, anyway. Well, what do you think? And yes, there was some blended lineart, Mumble, I tried to fix it, but I'm not sure if it worked or not. How did I do? Is the shading bright enough, Mosswhisker? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:37, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Your shading is a sickly grey colour and the whole image is blotchy. You need to take all the shading off and start over, using the burn tool at about 50% and running is once down the appropriate areas. Don't put shading around the outside of the ear pink as this just looks messy and like you've smudged the lineart. Then blend it all in. The shading should look a darker brown, not grey. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:03, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I started everything over from scratch, and redid the shading like you said. Instead of using the smudge tool, which I've learned not to use, I used different shades of brown and brought them together, and then blended them. Does it look any better? How did I do? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:48, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful. Much better, he looks like a new cat. Just increase the amount of shading on the main body and blur it as well as the shading on the tail. -- Bramble My Realm 01:07, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Bramble! I'm afraid I don't have time to work on the image until tomorrow after school and homework, but I promise I'll get to it soon! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:23, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Scratch that, I found just a little bit of time to work on it. I added a lot more shading, but I didn't add any on the muzzle or the top of the head. Do I need any on the top of the head? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:51, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - This is really looking nice! Blur your shading more (Be careful not to hit the lineart!), and add some in the middle of the back like on Bluefur. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:08, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Mosswhisker! I'll get to it sometime tomorrow after school and stuff. :) By the way, were you talking about Bluefur warrior or deputy? (and what did you mean by back line?) Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:36, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Okay, I blended the shading some, and tried to make the transition between the shading and the normal fur a bit lighter and not as hard. But I'm still not certain what you mean by the back line. (I know, probably something obvious that I am once again missing.) Well, what else needs improved? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:21, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I meant the deputy version. :) And I said "on the back like". Just add shading in the middle, basically. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  21:25, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, my bad. *face-palm* Okay, I'll get to that and reupload it soon! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:33, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

**REUPLOADED** I think I did the right thing...if not, let me know. But I think I added the right thing, with the back and all...how does it look? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:07, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Redstar- for approval

 * So here's Redstar. I made him before Tweak week, but didnt have a chance to put him up. He's my first leader, so, comments? Criticism? <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 00:35, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Very nice. Only I can't see the shading, darken it a little. The ear pink is also bright and fluro, try making it a more natural color. Hawkey  Ready for action 02:23, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

I can see some white spots on his back, and could you make his pelt more like a ginger color. Its very nice though. :). --Stonestar 11:30, September 9, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

I think you need to make the highlights bigger and blend it all more :) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:01, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded and increased shading, and changed ear pink. It was hard to get the shading to be dark, but also blurred... does it look okay? <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 22:46, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Blur highlights and shading alot more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:16, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, it really needs bluring! Right now Redstar looks, like......clay, o.O --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;black; background:white; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;"> Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 02:27, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * cough, he seems a bit....(wrong owrd) oily.........0.o...*cough*--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 04:06, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

His descrption is a dark ginger tom this is like golden brown.--Stonestar 14:39, September 13, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

I think that if you darken the fur color a bit it should look better. -- Rain whisker 09 12:03, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Birchstar (RC)for approval
My first leader and my first tabby. Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:42, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Here are a few things: It mostly just needs shading. The ear pink looks fine, and so does most of the tabby stripes. Otherwise, I think it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:16, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Needs shading. If it's there, I can't see it.
 * The nose pink is too bright, it's more of a hot pink rather than just a pink. Try to lighten it some. But from the pictures I was looking at on Google images, brown cats tend to have either brown or black noses, depending on whether they're multi-colored. Try changing it to just a lighter shade of brown from the color of the fur.

The tabby stipes need to be longer in most cases and more varied. Add shading and blend it well. Lighten the nose pink. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:34, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Redid the image. Made the tabby stripes longer, fixed nose and ear pink, and added shading. Is there anything else? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Still needs thicker and darker shading. Then blend it for natural transitions. As for the stripes - make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:36, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

What do you meen by regular?--<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:27, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

um... regular. i'll try and think of another way to describe it lol. bear with me. Make the different lengths, shapes and sizes. That wuld make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:29, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Made the tabby stripes longer and darker. Added more shading. I really don't know what to think of it. Is it better? Worse? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Frostfur (Warrior Version)- Up For Approval


Here's Frostfur the worst white cat i've ever seen it needs improvements. --Stonestar 14:13, September 12, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

It's actually not bad right now :). Just blur the shading, lighten the eye slightly, make the ear pink stand out more, and it should be good. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 16:44, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thax i'll fix that!Stonestar 17:15, September 12, 2009 (UTC)<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:Orange; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;"> Stonestar How's Prey Running? |undefined

The legs look way too blurred. -- Rain whisker 09 12:13, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Scourge ~ (R) For Approval


I'm Baaaaaaaaa-aack! Sorry about my inactivity, but it looks like tweak week's over, so here's scourge! He turned out very well, though I may need to adjust him. Suggestions? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:34, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

It's GREAT! The only thing I can see is that he needs the white paw, and that his right ear (our left) shouldn't have pink. Other than that, I absolutely love this. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 21:53, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! ^-^ I'll do that. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 22:17, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOOOOAAADED!!! Added teh white paw, took away zeh ear pink on one ear. Is that better? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 22:38, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

The white paw looks very good, lots better! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:white; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;"> Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 00:07, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

oops, I thought I was doing scourge! (NVM yours a lot better)X3 he has a dark purple collar --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 00:09, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Very good! Just a few things though. Like Bracken said, the collar is dark purple, and it looks like it has spikes right now. It actually has dog teath, which would be longer, curved, and would be flipped in different directions. Very good image though! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:18, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

The single white paw looks more of a light-gray-silverish color, rather than white. And as Mosswhisker said above, purple color, bigger teeth, etc. Otherwise, this looks great! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:10, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Socks ~ (Kit) For Approval


Yayzers! My first kit! I gave him an orange collar because I felt like it. *shrugs* Suggestions? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 22:59, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

This is really sweet :) I like the orange collar lol. As for suggestions: Make the ear pink smaller Runningkit is a good example of size and colour. Add some shading on the head and under the collar and thicken it slightly on the sides. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:56, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Cinderpaw - for approval
I'm not sure about the paw...Minnowclaw 01:18, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think the paw looks great! So does the shading and everything! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:21, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

The paw looks awesome! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:white; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:black;"> Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 01:54, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Can you add a highlight to the herbs as a final touch? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:48, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? Wow, I didn't think the paw was good at all.Minnowclaw 17:21, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - The bent paw needs thickened lineart, and it's bend is too sharp. Round that out, and then she'll be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:58, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

It's supposed to be her hind leg that's bent. I have a book reference on her article talk page. The warrior version is wrong too. -- Rain whisker 09 12:01, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Blackclaw is right. I also came across a reference when rereading one of the books. It is her hind leg. Bramble - what shall we do about her warrior version?? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:31, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Molepelt (MC) For Approval


My first image. Criticism welcome. Also, I'm not going to be on much these days, so please do not decline this.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:53, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think the ear pink is to big, and maybe to dark fur? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:07, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

yES LIGHTEN THE FUR TO MAKE TO MAKE THE EYE STAND OUT (Oops caps)--Stonestar 14:37, September 13, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Lighten the herbs and perhaps make them more of a green colour - I'm not sure a medicine cats is likely to use withered plants... Lighten the fur a little and make sure to add a pupil and highlight into the eye. Look at some approved images for reference. The ineart is blurred and there is colour outside of it in places. When you've sorted that, then we'll talk shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:47, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better? I tried adding the pupil, but I don't know if it's right.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 06:21, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think this is a lot more good, I can see the whiskers now :) I'm not sure but I think the eye colour sould be more big? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:43, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Meaning?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:45, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've not done a medcat, so I'm not sure if the eye can be biger or not :/ but I mean I can't see the pupil but maybe if you did more colour in the eye you could make the pupil biger, (sorry I'm so bad at spelling) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:06, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, wait a bit.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:13, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Anything else? Sandy, how much shading is needed?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:41, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

perhaps make the eye colour brighter--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 04:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Needs a highlight in the eye. Just put a white pixel on the left side of the pupil. -- Rain whisker  12:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:47, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Brook (w) - For Approval
This image has been sitting on my computer for a month and I think its time I get it out to the world ^_^ I've been so super busy I'm seriously going to have to stick with one image at a time for now. So what do you guys think of Brook (Brook Where Small Fish Swim) as a warrior of ThunderClan is?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 21:43, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! She is so beautiful! The image looks really good, maybe you could make the ear pink a little brighter? Just by a little bit! -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 21:46, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

This is gorgeous! Only thing, ear pink, brighten and blend it a little more. And I always pictured Brook as a striped tabby, not a classic tabby. Are you sure? Hawkey  Ready for action 21:59, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I think classic is fine. Blur your shading transition a bit more too. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:17, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! Fantastic! This is marvelous! I think the classic tabby is fine, and very pretty. :) Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:14, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think that you ned to blend everything more (excluding the line art, of course!) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:57, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Lighten your tabby markings a shade or two too. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:22, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Flick (R) - For Approval


Okay, my first charart, please don't decline this too quickly because I will not be on on weekdays, well, I might be on a little while, so I will only be able to edit the image sometimes. Not much to say about the image! -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 22:45, September 13, 2009 (UTC

This looks fine, but the lineart is blurred. Also, try blurring the ear pink some more. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:15, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll have to do that on Saturday, next Saturday, I can't do it on Weekdays. -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:55, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 22:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

This is amazing for your first image, Peacesong! (Do you want me to keep calling you that or should I call you Pandasong?) Just get rid of the grey pixel on his leg and it should be good. I can circle the grey pixel if you want... <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 00:17, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! You can call me whatever you want, Peace, Peacesong, Panda, Pandasong, anything works! :) And if you could circle the grey pixel, that'd be great! ^_^ -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:44, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay, I edited a few things, anything else that needs changing? -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:51, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

He still has the grey pixel. I've circled it for you. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined

OKay, thanks! -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:56, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:59, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

There are a few bits of blurred line art on his back leg. Other than that, he should be approved soon. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 09:06, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

I will fix that after school today then. -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 11:50, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Dappletail(w)-for approval
Here she is, IDK if I like this one, but it's better than Foxheart xD.-- Darkhallows My den 08:48, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

The ginger looks too yellow and the black looks grey. Other than that, I'd say she's pretty good. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 21:21, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I can't see any shading. :C Other than that, and what Sparrowsong said, she is absoulutely marvoulous. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:58, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Silverstream (W) - For Approval


My first classic tabby. I tried my best to make her look like her queen version. Anyway, does she look good? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 21:13, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

The color and stripes look fine. Things that bother me: The eye, it needs another black pixel, and the ear pink, too dark and on the top of the ear. Hawkey  Ready for action 22:11, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 23:09, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Blackfoot (Ro) - For Approval
Well, he did have a sentence of exile for awhile, and we all know he was one of 'Brokenstar's Rogues', the new pop sensation, so I figured that he needs a rogue image as well. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 07:18, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Very nice! Just blur your shading in more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:21, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed up shading. Any better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:24, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Leopardstar (De) - For Approval
I seriously don't have an inkling about the quality of these images. Can someone please give me some opinions? I made two because I wasn't sure which one was better. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 07:43, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think the first one is better but it needs tabby stripes i like the spots though:) --Stonestar 11:25, September 15, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

(M) - I like the first one best, personally. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:20, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed with Moss. But the ear pink is gray, change it to pink?  HA WK FI RE98  00:04, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Added tabby markings to original pic and saved over second one. I'm not sure hoow they look... I also re coloured the ears. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:17, September 16, 2009 (UTC)