Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Ice (Lo) - For Approval
Ice's loner version. Comments? - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  18:33, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink, so it doesn't blend in with the pelt as much. This looks great! :) 19:02, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Aw thanks :) - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  19:15, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and maybe give him a blood clan collar. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 20:00, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can you also give him amber eyes, like on his rogue image? 04:00, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darkened the shading, attempted to blurr the shading adn highlights, and lightened the ear pink. Added collar, though it isn' t ver good :| - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  14:40, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Move the highlights up on to the middle of his shoulder and hip, blur the shading a bit more, and make the teeth on the collar more noticeable, it looks like the collar is more jeweled rather than has teeth coming out of it. Scarlet wind Medicine Cat of SolarClan 15:45, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

The collar looks a bit flat. Make the shading more noticeable there. :] 17:37, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Can you rename it Ice.loner.png? And there is some blurred lineart on the right-back leg, near the tail. 20:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

In his Rogue charart he has a blue collar, not a red one, so you should probably change the color. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 02:06, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded *sigh* not much better, but I added more highlights, blurred, changed collar color adn fixed the teeth, ext. - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  19:48, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit. Darkhallows... Mew? 21:41, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Dry making the ear a little more reddish-pinkish instead of pinkish Feathermoon 01:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Brighten the highlights. 01:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink. 98.22.152.78 23:39, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Since he's in bloodclan, i belive he needs dog teeth reinforced in his claws. Right? 00:10, March 20, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Good point, Feathermoon. And blur the shading a little more.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  17:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I checked his rouge version and he didn't have teeth on his claws, so wouldn't that look weird? anywho, Reuploaded, I brightened the highlights and blurred the shading. Should I make the shading darker? I think it should be darker, but i realized that after I reuploaded it :| - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah darken it a little bit and desaturate the earpink. 20:43, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Claws can easily be added to his rogue image on tweak week. So for now I think he should have claws. You might want to use Scourge as a refence. 02:17, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Add some shading to the middle of the belly. They aren't just flat surfaces, remember =D --   Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 06:56, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pupil angle upwards.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make therpink look more real, it looks too....ah, dark and fake. Maplepool 22:32, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:16, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I am, parden my lack of reply. Reuploaded Now, I'm not sure what color to make the earpink, so which would look more normal? - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 20:42, March 28, 2011 (UTC)



I'd say around one. That's the closest to what I would use for a grey cat, though I would use a more red-hued pink. -- 20:54, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

The first or second look good. Add shading to where the haunch meets the body and upwards and where the front leg meets the body and upwards. Looking good. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the tail is too light, and the body shading is really dark. Lighten it a bit. 02:58, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

I think the paws could use a little bit of shading. Other than that I think this is pretty good! I hope it gets accepted! :) Ivystripe 16:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Lighten the shading on the body a bit. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:35, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

And blur it. 22:36, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  00:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Please don't decline it! My PhotoPlus is all screwed up and I need to wait until my dad fixes it, I don't know when that will be. But I'll upload the new one as soon as it gets fixed. - Ginger  tail <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script>The air is getting warmer! <font color="#7E13D7" face="Segoe Script> 16:35, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Gingertail, would you be okay with me declining it until you fix your computer? You can always resubmit it afterward. Darkhallows... Mew? 02:55, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. W) - For Approval
Before any of you say something about blurring the shading/highlights, I just want to say I've blurred it as much as Pixlr has allowed me. Someone want to help? 01:07, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll blur it in GIMP. 01:31, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! 01:56, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Amke the ear pink more triangular, blur it, and make it more red. 02:26, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I blurred the shading for you, but I don't think I did it enough though :P 06:02, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear-pink more noticeable. 17:37, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the highlights have to be blurred more as well. Also there is some blurred lineart on his front left paw and back left leg. The eye color looks like a brown, maybe make it more amber. 20:05, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened the shading, re-did the earpink, and triple-checked for blurred lineart. I found nothing. Besides, I took the eye color from the regular Birchfall. I also blurred the shading as much as it'll blur. Will someone heelp me a teensy-bit more? 03:40, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Could you fix the earpink? 12:15, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink as well to make it more noticable. (Phew, glad I'm not the only one who uses Pixlr on everything!) 21:16, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading ot the chest and maybe add highlights (If they are already there brighten them :3). 01:31, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't add too much shading to his chest, 'cause the light is kinda coming, like, directly in front of there. I also fixed the earpink, and blurred everything to the max. Can someone help me some more? 03:04, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'll blur it some more if you want :) 03:42, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please! 03:45, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- It helped some. Could use a bit more... 04:04, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-re-uploaded- Sorry did the wrong one the first time X /. 04:15, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

lol....anyway, thanks Iceheart! 00:17, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink either brighter or darker, whichever makes it look more noticeable. 01:02, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I darkened it. :S 03:32, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger and scoot it farther up the ear a little. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:03, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:53, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:27, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

darken the ear-pink. Maybe make it a bit of a dark red/maroonish color? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 19:19, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Move the earpink up a little bit in the ear and maybe widen it a bit because it looks too thin, but don't make it too big. :3 20:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job =D Make the ear pink a lighter color because it's too red. --  Icy 123   ♥  23:59, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't lighten it, because I'm not too sure what people want me to do. Some say darken, others say lighten. :P 00:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I know this has been said before, but the earpink really should be lighter. It needs to match the coat more. Don't lighten it a lot, but it shouldn't be so dark-purple. --  Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 06:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Wildheart on this. Also, can the shading be darkened? It looks like there's not a lot there. <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 22:09, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Just darken and blur the shading, and lighten the ear pink a bit, like Wildheart said. 22:24, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred the shading a lot, so if it needs more, [which it probably does] can someone help me? 02:09, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I will. 02:15, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I blurred the shading a lot, and I feel your pain, Rainlegs. It was really hard to do. It involved the smudge tool, and halfway through I realized I'd killed the ear pink so I had to erase it and redo it since I didn't wanna start all over with my blurring. The changes aren't showing up for me, though. Are they for any of you? 02:56, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, they're showing up now. Does anyone else think the shading could be darkened a bit? I think I over-blurred. :/ 02:56, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yay, someone finally understands my issues with this cat! XD I think it could be darkened a tad more. Do you want me to do it, or would you still want to do it, so you can blur it after it's added? 03:02, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

It's your charart, so, it's your call. :3 03:09, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mmmkay. I darkened it, can you blur it some more? 03:17, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mmkay. 21:46, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur shading on the back.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink. 14:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the left (our left) ear and the neck. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the chin/neck area Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I blurred the shading. 21:06, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I added the chin shading, but I think it needs to blurred more. :P 01:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah blur that =) Put your blur tool on 100%, if it isn't already. --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:35, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

There is like a stripe on his neck, get rid of that. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 13:40, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. @Maplepool- It's shading, not a stripe. Anyway, I blurred it to the max. Can someone help me? :P 14:04, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and define the shading, I can't see it very well. Night shine  17:59, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

When you darken and define the shading, I'll blur it for you =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:27, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 14:06, April 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * The way you did the shading on his neck, it just really stands out. You say you blurred it, but I think it's just way too dark to go with the shading for him. That might be the problem with this image. Yes, it does look blurred but it also looks sharp against his fur color as well. I say make it lighter and try bringing some of that shading down onto his chest.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:29, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the shading. I could blur it for you on GIMP if you'd like.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:49, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * People, please listen! Read what Wildheart said right above my last upload. All I did was darken the shading. @Shimmerpool- the reason I didn't bring shading down onto his chest is because the light is coming from right in front of it, so there wouldn't be any shadow there, as stated above. 18:10, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you need help blurring the shading again? I'll go do it right now if you want. ^_^ 22:43, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. :P 01:21, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the highlights. 22:38, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Rainlegs! I'm working on it now, but I was cut off from computer priviledges for a couple days. I'll reupload it in a sec. --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:57, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it for you =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:50, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Wildheart! :) 23:58, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpen the eyes and add more color to them. I can't tell if they're mber or black Rainsong43 01:48, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Rainsong43

I took the color off of his regular warrior image, so they're fine. 01:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? Darkhallows... Mew? 02:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the ear-pink a tad. Blur the shading by the base of the tail, shoulder, and flank. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:00, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. If anyone else thinks it needs more blurring, can someone help me? 03:22, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink could be a bit lighter, and I don't think it needs any more blurring :D 21:33, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Pinestar (alt. L) - For Approval
He was described as tawny in Bluestar's Prophecy. Comments/criticsm?  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  18:03, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink and darken the shading. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 18:30, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the tail, fix that please. :3 19:11, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink....it looks kinda weird. 11:07, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

It should be a bit more orange-y. There's some blurred lineart on the front right leg also. 192.203.211.254 17:33, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Make the earpink less purply and more red-pink. 22:52, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also, do you have a ref for that? There's nothing on his page. 03:30, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

I tried posting this thre times but my computer got screwed up -.- theres a tad of white on the tail you forgot to color in, and the highlights could be blurred a tad. - Ginger  tail <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script>The Luck Of The Irish... <font color="#28AE7B" face="Segoe Script> 20:30, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink should fill the whole ear. 01:28, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't really have to. Looks fine! --  Moon  leaf  02:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it does have to, thats how the line art was designed. 03:41, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

If you want to know what tawny should look like, look at my alternate for Tawnypelt on this page. I think there is some blurred lineart on the haunch. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think this color for tawny looks fine. 20:09, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Same here. On the tail, there's a white pixel in the lineart. Can you fill that in? Echostar229 01:27, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

There's also blurred lineart on the tail. It may have some one of the forelegs but I'm not too positive on that. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:07, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. '' <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, make this more gingery (it's too brown right now) and lighten the ear pink. Also make the ear pink fill the whole ear. -- Night  shine  18:49, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink a little and blur the tail shading. 01:37, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  17:12, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

The white pixel on the tail still isn't filled in, so fill that in please. Also, the earpink isn't filling the whole ear still and brighten the highlights more. 17:18, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is there a tiny gray smudge between the tail and the foot? Also, blur the shading. 04:40, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nightflower is right. It needs to be removed. Unless this has already been discussed, brighten the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:47, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe darken the ear pink a bit more, it's kinda hard to see. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, make the earpink more visible, then blur it. 22:14, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

There is blurred lineart on the right ear. 20:40, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! Define/darken the ear pink to make it more noticable and maybe blur a tad the highlight on the chest. 23:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:29, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

If Mistfire has abandoned this, I'd be willing to take over. 17:03, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hey, I'm still working on it :P I'm only allowed to use the computer on weekends, so there will be 5-6 day gaps between each reupload. And Rainy promised on the IRC that she would blur the highlights for me.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:09, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. 20:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a paler reddish colour. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:19, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink, it looks too bright. 22:17, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

This is up to you, but I think you should fill in a couple more pixels in the eye. It just looks like they are half-coloured in. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:41, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Night shine  07:07, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading around the neck just a tad. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:32, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hmmm... I ran into an edit conflict when I uploaded, so it uploaded the image but didn't publish the Reupload notice. Wildheart: The white in the eyes is the shine.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:09, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading Night  shine  17:58, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I realized that, I just kind of thought it was too big... usually it's just one pixel. But whatever, it's your choice =P Fix the blurred lineart in the left ear. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:32, April 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * The ear pink still seemes unnatural to me. Maybe lighten it some. That pink just really doesn't go with the color in my opinion like it's too bright but too dark. Do you get what I'm trying to say?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:24, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Not really, Shimmerpool... can you give me a sample color I can steal?  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  16:46, April 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * [[File:Ear_sample.png]]<- This is a color that I'm thinking about. You can always mess around with it to getting it at a tone of your liking of course. Also after taking a closer look at the image I think the real thing that's bothering me is how the ear pink is taking over the entire ear. Possibly add in some of his fur color around the ear pink as ear fur. There's many examples of this, just look at some of the other leaders.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:27, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Leave the ear pink filling the whole ear. Thats how the blank was designed. Just change the colour. 02:20, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Just a side-note, it doesn't really have to fill in the whole ear. It's optional. 17:28, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

...but it's also how the blank was designed, so really, it shouldn't be optional XD --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:22, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I know it's hard to get the right earpink on tawny cats like this, but that looks a little, unnatural. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  01:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I agree...it could be a bit more red, and lighter. 21:31, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Willowbreeze (K)- For Approval
Here she is..... Comments? Echostar229 03:37, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink darker/more dull. 03:39, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any silver parts, maybe add some streaks or patches? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:57, March 16, 2011 (UTC) scratch that. Darken the whole thing a tad. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:48, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Echostar229 01:31, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:19, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Echostar, you can only have one image up for approval. As of now, you have two; Oakheart and Willowbreeze. I don't know what happens next, another user probably know though. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:lime;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">MINTSTARR  There is a traitor among us...  14:24, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Well she stopped working on it I think. Echostar, I suggest you put withdrawn by user on Oakheart's image, or we can see if it'll just be declined because the image may not be needed. Oh and brighten the highlights a tad on the image. :3 20:12, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

I did put the words 'Withdrawn' on it, and the image has been removed from the page. I had stopped working on him about a week ago, in case no one noticed my lack of updating him, me starting a new image, and the big words in the title. Oh, and, reuploaded. Echostar229 01:25, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well you never actually specified that you had withdrawn it. So please do so in the future. Add tail shading, add shading to the fore arms, add shading under the chin Night  shine  01:29, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Weird, 'cause it said 'Withdrawn' next to it on my computer before it was archived. The light's coming from the left [her right] so I don't think she would have chin shading. There's also shading on her arms and tail. Echostar229 01:38, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

I was the one that put withdrawn there. There should be shading under the chin since all other kit chararts have that and it makes it look less flat. Darken the shading on the forearms/tail Night  shine  23:00, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. Reuploaded. Echostar229 00:33, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Darkhallows... Mew? 04:57, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. 01:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think the shading's gotten worse...... :S Echostar229 03:53, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest.  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading go all the way across under the chin/ the neck. 22:54, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest and tail. 22:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Go blur crazy! Cardinal <font color="Orange">fire <font color="Khaki">My fluffy yellow cake!

Thin out the shading on the top of the chest. It needs to round out more, to fit the shape of the chest. --  Wildheart  Living with only my thoughts. 07:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Will anyone help me with blurring? Echostar229 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken her shading to make her look more like her other chararts up for approval because they are darker than this..Honeybreeze 18:32, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help =) And the colouring is fine; you don't need to fix it. Enlarge the earpink a bit and then blur it --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:31, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest lots.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  20:22, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/blur that little highlight on the tail tip or lighten if that was shading. 00:42, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it and reuploaded it for you, Echostar =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:45, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add/lighten the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more even, and center it. 00:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken tail shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten or darken the earpink a tad. 17:02, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I take it you're not working on this anymore since you reserved another. Night shine  00:37, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I haven't reserved another. My grandma just died, so i haven't been able to work on this. Sorry. I'll go reupload this. Echostar229 00:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry! I thought this was Wildheart's image so I put it as withdrawn. I'm really sorry for your loss. Night shine  00:50, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

So sorry! Can I take over? ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁ 00:59, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Echostar is still working on this. Night shine  01:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still doing this. :S Echostar229 01:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I wonked up the shading again... :S Echostar229 01:22, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

blur the chest shading. 01:23, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a little bit. Night shine  01:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Willowbreeze (A) ~ For Approval
I know that it doesn't really match Echostar's but I'm still playing around with different patterns, until I see Night Shine's. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:01, March 16, 2011 (UTC) Scratch that, I'm gonna redo it, I saw her description as "Silver and gray she-cat". <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:03, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Redone. Comments for improvement? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:22, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink less purple. 04:24, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing, it's too light right now-- Night  shine  04:30, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:47, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken shading on far forearm, add shading under chin and to space in front of forearm on chest. Add/darken the ear pink Night  shine  04:53, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:00, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 20:13, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 21:18, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit Night  shine  00:44, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 02:13, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, it looks kind of flat-- Night  shine  22:59, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights to the fronts of the legs  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  21:15, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:49, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, the shading is just a bit lumpy/rough/uneven. Blur it all a bit. 01:34, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:07, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur neck shading  <font color="#93DBAA">Mistfire <font color="#93DBAA">1000 Edits!  16:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:26, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder shading. 22:51, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

And the haunch shading. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:45, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

There is haunch shading... Anyway, blur the haunch highlight. :3 01:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:34, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading on the forearms, darken the chest shading, add a bit of shading under the chin Night  shine  22:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, it looks a little lumpy, and add shading to the top of the head. 02:14, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I think I just made it worse though... <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 18:51, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, or darken the highlights.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:36, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 16:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights a bit and blur them. Looks good. =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:26, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading a bit. 03:37, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

There appear to be blurred pixels on the tail. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:03, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a very small amount and make the ear pink a bit bigger Night  shine  01:16, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:20, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink and maybe make it a little more red. 01:22, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:26, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Night shine  07:06, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur the shading. <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:30, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading looks fine. Repeating 24 hours. Night shine  17:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to be nitpicky... but could you darken the front ear? The way the shading is, I think it needs to be in shadow... then your charart will be perfect XD --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

You mean, add shading inside the ear? Or darken the ear-pink? <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:39, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Shading inside the ear. The earpink is a perfect shade, but the rest of the ear is lighter than the shaded parts of the body. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:42, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:52, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little smaller. Night shine  05:47, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 14:18, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear pink Night  shine  21:55, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:59, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks way too big, and you brightened it too much. The shading is a bit intense, and a wee bit blotchy, so blur it out and maybe even lighten it a teeny bit? 22:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:56, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Night shine  01:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still looks blotchy-ish and needs blurring. 01:34, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:38, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? Darkhallows... Mew? 02:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the patch of shading at the base of the tail. 03:01, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 12:30, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Repeating 24 hours. Night shine  23:46, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Okay, Tigerheart re-posted! Comments? --  Moon  leaf  17:36, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

This looks better. I can't think of anything that would need touching up. I don't think it could use more blurring, either. Cloud skye  The  Dark   Forest   Is   Rising 17:42, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes a bit. 18:34, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

How? 21:18, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means make them more noticeable. 21:38, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried. 21:54, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes and make the ear pink more noticeable. Night shine  21:57, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make the stripes a bit more wavy to they match the pattern in his alt. apprentice charart. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 00:39, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little and blur it. 01:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is it too dark? 17:04, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Just a tad. Can you lighten up his back just a little bit? <span style="background-color: #000000; -moz-border-radius: 8px 9px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px 10px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 5px;"> Skye Meow 17:13, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't a torn ear mean that the tip is completely torn off, rather than having it nicked? Maybe change it to that. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 20:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink a bit. 22:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Dang, forgot to sign 00:21, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more and maybe add some by the belly and up the back. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:15, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:12, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading between the stripes a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 17:42, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 19:52, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

He only has a torn ear and here it's completely ripped off. Make it so that it's torn. Darken the stripes, add a few more tail stripes, darken shading and add neck and belly shading Night  shine  22:00, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded What a fail! o.o 23:51, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, and they seem to be in one blob. The face, shoulder, haunch, tail and leg highlights should all be separate. 02:12, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:39, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

make the shredded eat less rounded and make it more pointish. 18:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Reuploaded Now more failz 20:03, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make his match like the one on his current warrior image, and then make where you re-draw the line for the ear a bit thicker. Maplepool 23:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

No keep the stripes whre they are, dont make it match its warrior image. Maplepool its been decided that it should match the other alts. 23:55, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear a bit bigger; right now it looks like there is no ear at all =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:33, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Tell me if the changes show. 15:01, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

No, Iceheart, I was talking about his ear, I know the stripes stay the way the way are, im not a idiot -_- I was talking about make the ear look more like the on on his current warrior image and when (s)he redoes it, make it look more the rest of the lineart, a bit thicker. Maplepool 15:37, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm a girl, and there's no torn ear on his warrior charart :/ 19:58, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten/blur shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:52, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:55, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Huh, I swear i was atorn ear on him once... but do as Mistfire said other that i see no other changes need to be made, as far as I can see. Maplepool 22:30, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are really big and thick and the highlights still appear to be one huge unseparated blob, and they need to be blurred a lot. 01:35, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think the stripes look fine. 04:49, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad and match the colours a bit better to the apprentice alt. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:52, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and sharpen the stripes a lot. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:58, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I used the sharpen tool. Now it's more failz. 19:36, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Instead of using the blur tool and setting it to "sharpen", use the smudge tool to smooth out the edges into points. Blur the shading a bit. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is very uneven. Make the colours match the ones on his alternate apprentice image Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

So I should re-do it? 19:53, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

It's up to you. If you think you can fix all the commented areas without redoing the whole image, go right ahead ;) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid it :D 17:46, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry guys, the changes aren't showing :/ 19:38, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Try uploading it until the new version shows up Night  shine  01:14, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Tried, but it doesn't work >:( 02:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I found this link that leads to the redone image, hope this works: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110330020521/warriors/images/archive/b/b9/20110330020532!Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png 02:31, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Much better =) Perhaps you can just delete the one up top and replace it with ^this one^ so it's easier for us. Blur the stripes a bit. --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's working now, so it's okay. 17:12, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the tail highlight. 20:10, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:38, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and make it more triangular. Blur the stripes, darken the shading. I also don't see noticable shading on the stripes. Night shine  07:06, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's hard to make the earpink triangular when the ear is torn off. 14:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:34, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 16:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the head, blur the other stripes, add one or two more stripes to the tail. Make the ear pink more triangular. Night shine  17:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20:26, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Move the shoulder highlight more forward, towards the belly, so it matches where the other highlights' placement. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:44, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 14:20, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Move the ear pink a bit higher. 21:50, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:31, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome job! Maybe just darken the shading a tad. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:48, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 23:03, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! I don't think anything else needs improvement :D 23:07, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Where's your light source? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:24, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'm thinking the visible side, the side you're looking at. 00:29, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sooooo... comments? 17:09, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading by his jaw, blur the shading on the tail and on the chest. Nice work! <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:10, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks :) 01:39, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I tried to comment, but it edit conflicted twice. The light source can't come from where we are looking from, as there wouldn't be any shading =P I'm thinking it's from the top left hand corner, from where your shading and highlights are placed. If this is so, move the shoulder highlight forward to match the other highlights' placements. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:43, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took a lame guess there xD 01:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink is a tad too red. Darkhallows... Mew? 02:59, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened it. 17:34, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little bigger, darken the shading Night  shine  23:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfur (alt.A) ~ For Approval


Brackenfur was described as a brown tabby apprentice in Forest of Secrets. Comments? 21:52, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. 21:53, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes, add more stripes to his face, forearms, and tail. Make the ear pink smaller and more reddish Night  shine  21:57, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable and darken the shading on the legs a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:09, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink. 22:13, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 22:27, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Would Brackenfur get an alternate? I mean, Golden-brown and brown are quite similar. 22:41, March 21, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I think so...because they're actually really different golden-brown is more golden, and brown is more...brown. Brackenfur is often called ginger, too, but thats too close, I guess.... 22:50, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well Brackenfur is a ginger-golden tabby and this is just brown. So I think it's fine. Darken the tail stripes, make the stripes thinner and add more of them. Add stripes to his face. Lighten the ear pink Night  shine  23:07, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. 23:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 23:23, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Move the ear pink up a little and blur it. 01:29, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 22:01, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  20:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes so they will blend in more with the pelt. 21:03, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

But he was called a tabby, so shouldn't the stripes stand out, instead of blending in? 21:41, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

She doesn't mean to make them really hard to see. . . just. . . blend in more. XD But I think the stripes are too big and thick. Maybe make them smaller and add a few more? Darken the shading, brighten the highlights. Move the shoulder highlight up so it isn't half on his arm/belly, and the face highlight should be in the middle around the cheeks/whiskers with shading on top of the head. Make the ear pink smaller and add stripes to the legs. 22:22, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

RE-Uploaded. 23:23, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes to the legs, and define them a bit --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:34, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. 17:21, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:53, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth those two little stripes by the eye. 00:46, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and lighten this a lot; this is a light brown tabby alternate, not just a brown tabby alternate. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:54, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Wildheart; it needs to be lightened a lot. The stripes are still really thick and there still aren't any on the legs. 01:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you added the stripes after you did the shading and highlights. Make sure the stripes have shading and highlights along with the rest of the pelt. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

'''RE-Uploaded. ''' 22:18, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image a bunch more. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:48, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think its light enough. :P Besides, as long as its not dark brown, its light enough, right?... 22:50, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I lightened it XD 22:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to be nitpicky... but lighten it a little bit more? kthxbye XD --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:07, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are bothering me. They look like huge triangles and they don't fit together, but then the leg ones are really small, and they don't cover the entire legs, they're only on one leg. Also, the two lines under his eye are huge. His back legs don't have stripes. 03:40, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then...I'll try, but I might need help... 21:55, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 22:18, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shoulder highlight. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  23:01, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

RE-Uploaded. Comments? 23:20, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

The back leg still needs stripes. 00:00, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

The back front leg? I added them, but they're not easy to see... 00:01, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 00:04, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Add a stripe to the top of his head, add shading and highlights to the stripes. Could you make the stripes a little thinner so you can add more to the haunch? It would look more realistic that way. Lighten the ear pink a bit Night  shine  01:13, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it's just me, but the stripes on the legs look blotchy. 02:29, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I blurred them... 20:28, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. ''' 20:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

The front leg stripes seem a lot... bolder then the other stripes. Maybe blur them some more or lighten them? 01:21, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone help me with that? My computer's Adobe Flash player isn't working today :( 21:52, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help, Misty :D 17:27, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried. 17:46, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Comments? 21:48, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I don't think there's any more things that need to be fixed...comments? 21:59, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too triangular. Make them flow more with the pelt and smudge them as well. Try looking at some other tabby stripes to get an idea of what could make them look more realistic. The highlights also look a little splotchy. Center the ear pink and lighten it. Night shine  07:05, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more on the shoulder and haunch.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  14:37, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

The computer I'm using right now still isn't working...anyone want to help? XD still not logged in :P 75.6.251.235 23:12, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I can help again, if it's okay if I can re-do the stripes. 15:56, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great to me! I can't tell if much more needs to be done. Ivystripe 18:35, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Reuploaded I re-did the stripes for you =) 21:42, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to add stripes on the other front leg, so Reuploaded 21:44, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Moonleaf, it looks great, but I hope you don't mind if I change it... 21:49, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't mind 22:23, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded.. Thanks, you've been a great help, but my computer is working again =) 22:25, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Center the earpink :) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:25, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Alright. 23:29, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded! :D 23:29, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes, make the ear pink more reddish and lighten it. Night shine  00:36, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded! 00:40, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  01:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 40th time! XD 01:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten and center the earpink. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:50, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded! 42nd time! 20:52, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Night shine  23:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me! 00:43, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Barley (K) - for approval
Okay, as of Frosthearts comment on Violet, she said that even if its one sentence they get one. So I'm going to see if Barley's Kit version won't get Denciled this time. If it is, i got a back up plan im saving. This is the picture it was at when it was dencied.

14:52, March 24, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Darken the shading. 22:39, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded=.- Comments? :) 17:30, March 25, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Define the change between black and white areas; they look like they are bleeding into each other. Blur the earpink a bit and make it smaller --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:38, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Try to have an equal amout of black and white, and as Wildheart said, define them. 17:39, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  01:43, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done- Okay i re-did this, I had no idea how to fix the spots without ruining it. :3 23:16, March 27, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

The black and white division needs to be defined a bit more. You can just use the smudge tool and then blur it lightly if you don't want to redo the whole image =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded- i worked hard on the shading and spots :3 23:39, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

The shading needs to be a little more defined, it's hard to tell where it's at Ivystripe 00:17, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Okay, i did my best but I cant darking the shading anymore. The black spots are getting too dark. Reuploaded. 01:36, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Lighten the black spot on his right (our right) its FAR to dark, its blending in with the lineart. Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:59, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded  13:30, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Darken the nose colour, darken the shading on the white areas, blur the black a little more. Night shine  07:00, April 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * The black patches still look rather dark in my opinion, almost the color of the lineart but it may be my screen. Also the patches on his stomach seem like they are smudged in with the white in stead of blurred. Blur them more.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 14:12, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded- okay i fixed the lineart and lightened the spots a tad, and darkend the nose. 18:49, April 2, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon
 * The black markings look crowded and awkward, I don't really know how to describe it . . . the ear pink is very blurry and kind of hard to see and dark, and you need to darken the shading. 00:13, April 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reuploaded- PLEASE can someone help me with the shading? i'm desprate! everytime i try it gets worse! All i need is shading help. And then im good. Please? anyone? Fea  ther  02:02, April 3, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon
 * Reuploaded- PLEASE can someone help me with the shading? i'm desprate! everytime i try it gets worse! All i need is shading help. And then im good. Please? anyone? Fea  ther  02:02, April 3, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I'd help.... but I'd probably make it worse, so I won't XD the white parts need to be completely white (shading excluded) and right now they have patches of gray on them. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:48, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

But people keep saying to darken the shading on the white so I did, and ^^thats^^ what I end up with. Fea ther  17:28, April 3, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Well maybe you need a better light source. Where's your light coming from right now? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 23:28, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ummm the....left? Fea ther  22:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Maybe you should take a look at Nightshine's tutorials if you're not sure about the light source =) The light source is one of the most important aspects of a charart, in my opinion XD --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Snake (K)~ for Approval


Yeah AT LAST A CHARART, eh Ive gotten better, but he can be better, and hes not taken I took him, I LOVE him why? I don't know^^, anyway, comments? Maplepool 22:17, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the sides of his face, thin out the shading on his right (our right) side, make the highlight bigger and add a highlight to his face. Make the earpink bigger too. 22:37, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- fixed shading added more highlights, slimed the shading on his right(our right) ear pink enlarged....hmm its not showing the changes dont comment till I say you can. Maplepool 02:43, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

O you can comment now Maplepool 02:45, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the chest highlight, it looks like he has a pale grey chest. 20:07, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlight. 22:34, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- fixed the chest, blured the highlightes, comments? Maplepool 23:05, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular and blur it. Lighten the shading on the inside of the right (our right) leg --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:39, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 01:48, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make it fit into the ears themselves; right now it looks like it's falling out. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:11, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There Fixed, I think..... ANWAY, comments? Maplepool 15:32, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the earpink and blur the shading. (Mintstarr)98.22.156.110 18:03, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

AT LAST I fixed the earpink AT FREAKING LAST!!!! Maplepool 22:40, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink and blur the shading a lot --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten shading.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  02:43, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

There fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 20:02, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the leg shading and enlarge the earpink some. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:30, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading under the chin Night  shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

There, fixed and reuploaded, comments? Maplepool 20:50, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading under the chin, make the ear pink more noticeable. Night shine  01:06, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Question, what do you mean, make it more noticeable, like make it a darker color? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 02:50, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I belive she meant to ublurr the front right leg highlights\shading, Blrr the top part of tail shading. And I belive theres a peice of lighter lineart near the foor kinda, and the areas circled in red need to be blurred: se the burn tool. 13:30, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Not everyone uses the burn tool for shading. But yeah, she means, make the shading darker/more noticable. 22:24, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, Since T.A.K.S is coming up, I won't be on untill wendsay, so...I can't upload till then, then AFTER, seciece taks, I have to go to a wedding for my aunt, so untill in like May, COMMENT AS FERICE AS YOU CAN DON'T HOLD THE COMMENTS BACK!!! YOU WILL COMMENT WITH FERICE-NESS (thats a word right?) anyway imma upload then COMMENT Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:04, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ok comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear-pink. And since there are a few spots to blurr, im going to give you a picture indication where. Green: Blurred lineart. Red: highlights\shading needs to be blurred. :  23:20, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Ok tried to fix it and reploadde Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 01:42, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think you forgot to fix the pink ear :3 02:01, April 2, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

No I fixed it, It just looks more ... >.< Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:53, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, make the ear pink bigger and more centered. -- Night  shine  17:56, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the ear pink is WAY too high up on his ears, and blur the belly shading and the shading on his. . . the place around his legs, but not on his legs. xD 22:38, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed and reuploaded,comments? Maple♥ pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:45, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the leg shading. Darkhallows... Mew? 03:01, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 19:31, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink on both ears the same size and color. 23:52, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Rosepetal (A) - For Approval
Toadstep seems to be getting one, so Rosepetal shoud as well. Not so proud of the stripes on this one. Cronstructaments? 02:16, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section. Make the earpink stand out some more. 02:18, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Take the eye colour off her warrior charart, fix the blurred lineart on its head, and make the stripes like the ones on her warrior charart. They just look like random swirls right now. 02:20, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, shouldn't this be declined too? Toadstep's was decbe sides, they were never seen as apperentices, so unless frostheart, or Nightshine say it can stay I think it might be declined. Maplepool 02:31, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Frostheart wants them to have images. I think it has a chance. 22:08, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Maplepool, don't just go saying random things before you know the whole story. There are reasons it stayed up. :P 23:19, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more stripes on the back so it matches the warrior pixel's stripes. Lighten the tail highlight. This looks good =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:18, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  17:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripe style just looks way different from her warrior charart. Examine it for a little while to see what they look like, and copy off of it. Also, define the ear pink. 17:42, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried my best to copy the stripes. 19:25, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

There is one part right before her tail tip which is lightet then the rest of her tail, darken that, other than that very nice Maplepool 22:43, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are too dark, and still kind of big, and while they look more like her warrior charart's, they're not quite there. And what's cronstructaments mean? xD 01:10, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

See if you can edit the colors to match the shade of her warrior charart's. -- 01:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten/darken the earpink and maybe try blurring the stripes. 16:28, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone just redline where the stripes would be? That would help a lot DX 20:01, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:21, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest outlining the stripes in the 'smudge' tool, that would blur them a little. 21:33, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

You said you wanted a redline for the stripes? Here it is XD You had the right idea, but a couple of them were off. Basically, all you have to follow is where the stripes meet the lineart, but you can take artistic license with the rest, as we haven't seen the right side of her body yet. So go crazy =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:44, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the redline, Wildheart. I owe you one xD 21:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes' color. 22:20, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

No problem =) Maybe add some stripes to the front leg and the front of the haunch. I didn't add any to the redline because I didn't want to influence where you put them =P --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 22:51, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

On the back leg, there is an area that isn't blurred. It's the tip of the bottom stripe. Ivystripe 00:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Reuploaded  21:11, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

You could another stripe to the front of the haunch... 21:13, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Make all of the stripes consistent with eachother. The one on the front of the haunch is what all of them should look like (color wise) in my opinion. 22:10, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? 21:05, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes and define them =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:01, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, it seems to almost blend in with the pelt color. <span style="color:yellow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:blue;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">MINTSTARR  That peaceful Hawaiian breeze....  17:34, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think I'm going to withdraw this; anyone who wants can take over. 16:39, April 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll be happy to take this over for you for you Lone Wolf. Okay everyone I made the few edits that were last said, but I'm not done blurring as I have to go for tonight. Comments for now?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:04, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * There are some places that are the base color, not the stripe color, and should touch the lineart, unless that's what you were going for and they are the sides of a stripe? Ivystripe 18:33, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Sharpen the stripes =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes look like the ones in the redline. 23:25, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hazeltail (Alt. A) - For Approval
I really liked this one; 1st charart for PCA!

Moved this to the correct section. It doesn't quite look like you used the full size image as there are white pixels surrounding it. Fix that please. Otherwise, it's pretty good. 18:19, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Save the image as a png, not a jpg. 19:02, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, got it. <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  22:13, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the backround transparent, and get rid of all the random little pixels on the image. 22:16, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I did make the backround transparent. <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  19:20, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Redo it, but don't save it as a .jpg image save it as a .png and her tail-tip is too bright, it looks white, and blur ther earpink, and make it smaller, and make the background transparent. Maplepool 22:26, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED - <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  20:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the highlights, as they look quite blotchy. Darken the ear pink and rename this Hazeltail.apprentice.alt.png. 19:31, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Very stunning^^, and tis is yourfirst charart for PCA? darken her tail tip and her muzzle, blur the earpink a bit more add shading to her ear that is farthest from us. Very nice, its better then mine, im jealous.... :/ Maplepool 20:19, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fill in the pixels on the stomach, and make the ear pink smaller. And was she described as mottled, or just gray? because this looks mottled. 20:50, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading, not smudge them.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  21:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the bits of gray outside of the lineart. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:03, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED - <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  01:48, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

There is a white area on the belly that should be filled in, darken the shading, make the ear pink more noticeable. Rename this Hazeltail.apprentice.alt.png. Night shine  01:57, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED - <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  02:04, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken this a lot. 04:44, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

And then make the hilights more noticable. 22:36, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is the lineart on the back of the haunch a lot thicker than the rest of the body? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:50, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the chest, haunch, and face.<font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 04:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED - <font color="cyan" face="Segoe Script">   Holly♥       Medicine Cat  18:11, April 3, 2011 (UTC) ...Does the shading look a bit stiff, or blothy?

It doesn't look blotchy. But it needs a face highlight, and add shading to the muzzle. Darken the whole thing, it looks pale gray, and darken the shading a lot. The ear pink is a bit hard to see and the tail shading looks like a gradient. 22:36, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. 23:33, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt. W) - For Approval
She was described as a black-and-silver cat in Forest of Secrets on page 15. Comments? 23:06, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the black on the tail, make the ear-pink a tad smaller and brighten it, darken the shading on the white parts, and brighten the highlights. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:07, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:00, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the white areas silver. Smudge the black transition. Add eye colour, blur the ear pink and blur the shading Night  shine  00:03, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:32, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! I like the markings! The silver still looks white, so darken it a lot, and darken the shading as well. Move the ear pink up a bit. 00:53, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:25, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the black near the shoulder area. 01:27, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Silverstream.warrior.alt.png 02:47, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''How do I rename it? And I'll thicken the black later when I have time. 03:44, March 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rainwillow: Whatever you are using to edit your image, save it, left click, there will be a list of suggestions, rename it Silverstream.warrior.alt, and upload it as a different image and replace the current image with the different one.  Icy 123   ♥  14:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the shading. 16:24, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the white some more; it still looks white, and not silver. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 04:45, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more centered and blur it. Smudge the black transition. Night shine  05:29, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Does it still look white? Could somebody help me with the black and the shading? However much I blur the shading, it still looks the same. 11:07, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not to dark, it looks like gray. I would try along the side between white and gray. So its not gray, but its like a light gray, 13:52, March 28, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I can help blur the shading. I'll do it right now, and I can lighten the silver parts like Feathermoon said too. =3 21:04, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mossy! 10:11, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wait... When she was described as black and gray I think they meant she was gray with black stripes, her being a tabby and all. It's like saying Brambleclaw is black and brown... Darkhallows... Mew? 06:17, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Actually she was described as black and silver not black ans gray. XD It didn't say anything about her being a silver-and-black tabby on page fifteen in Forest of Secrets, but I could always fix it. Anyone else who agrees with Darkhallows? 10:25, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

I thik that it should stay like this; It isnèt the same kind of thing like ginger cats, they natrally have stripes. Silver and Black cats have never had natral stripes unless listed as tabbys. (Feathermoon but not logged it :3)

Feathermoon, what? A silver and black tabby is very possible. She's a tabby, mentioned as black and silver/ I was thinking that too, but I just never got around to mentioning it. xD Rainwillow silver is a shade of gray, same thing. They never said anything about her being tabby on that page, but she IS tabby. :P 22:09, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...You do have a point there, Mossy. And since she is a tabby, I will agree with Darkhallows. 22:19, March 30, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

This (click) is a silver tabby. I would describe that as black and silver. Darkhallows... Mew? 01:17, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

So is it agreed? Should I change this as a silver she-cat cat with black stripes? 04:39, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I belive so. 13:23, March 31, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Blur the shading and haunch highlight. (This is Mintstarr.)98.22.139.18 21:37, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Considering her main picture is a silver tabby, I don't think she needs an alternate. Darkhallows... Mew? 06:07, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wait....so is this going to be declined? Frostheart? Night shine? What do you guys think? 11:35, April 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Make the ear pink smaller. Smudge the transistions more. Make the ear pink more reddish. Brighten the highlights. Fix the lineart on the tail. -- 01:25, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the black more stripey or tabbylike.  <font color="#A1C2E3">Mistfire <font color="#A1C2E3">Spring rainfalls  02:11, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, im not the lead, or deputy, but, I think that Silver-and-black is different from, Silver tabby, Im just an apperentice, so my opion my not mean much, but I still think this should stay up.... Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 14:57, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think this should stay up since black-and-silver is much different than just a silver tabby. -- Night  shine  17:54, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, since it's going to stay up, do I have to change it to a silver cat with black stripes as Darkhallows said? 02:14, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

That's what I would do, but I guess it's up to you, as it didn't specify. Blur the shading. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:53, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Okay, after I read all of these comments, I decided to make Silverstream's alt. image into a silver cat with black stripes. I made the stripes similar to Silverstream's warrior image, so I hope it looks okay. Does the silver still looks white? Mossy, are you still going to help me blur the shading? If not, could somebody help me blur it? 07:20, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 01:06, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * bangs head on desk* I hate myself for making those hard forsaken markings! Anyways... ^^ you missed a few of the markings on her leg from her warrior image, basically on her hind leg and forepaw thats like behind her from our point of view. Also blur and I'll help if Mossy isn't able to. Also don't forget to add in shading and blur the ear pink as well.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:38, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to be blurred as well. The edges of them looked smudged-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:17, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How about now? 01:39, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

The markings on her back still seem a tad blotchy where the black meets the silver :/ what program do you use by chance?-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 02:07, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I use pixlr. The stripes looks fine to me. 02:14, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rainwillow; the stripes look no blotchier then the ones on her regular warrior image. All I would suggest is shrink the big black spot in the middle of her back a tad. 02:44, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes dont mave to match her warriors image because this is an alternate. Someone tried to match the Tigerheart stripes on an alt and someone said they didn't have to match. But if you want to do it like this, you can. 96.51.53.81 03:32, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Re-uploaded. I made the black spot a bit smaller. Does anything else need to be fixed? 08:23, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular because on your picture it shows it where one part of it is full but the other side looks kinda wrong...Honeybreeze 15:28, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, Rainey! Lighten the ear pink and center it. 22:47, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading on the black parts needs to be defined a bit. The grey parts look good! Ivystripe 00:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Re-uploaded. The earpink is horrible! Could somebody help me on it? 04:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Fixed the earpink again with Frostheart's help. Does it look to bright? 04:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. And maybe add some stripes to the back leg farest from us. 23:31, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Anything else? 11:06, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The markings need smudged a little more. Make it flow with her shape. 00:42, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Er, I don't think the markings need to be smudged. That's for two different colored cat. And I if I blur the stripes, it'll look to blotchy. Anybody else agree with Ivystripe? 04:28, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Patch (K) - For Approval
Comments? I took all the colours from his kittypet image. Night shine  00:45, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink a little. This looks great! 00:57, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded lightened ear pink. Night shine  01:00, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little bigger. 01:13, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the white patch on his chest just a tad more and darken the shading under his chin a tad. Lovely work! <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:22, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred white chest, made ear pink bigger, darkened chin shading. Night shine  02:13, March 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * CBA? 00:02, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Darken the nose pink a tad, it looks pale. Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 00:57, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

That's because it's on white. It looks fine to me. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:00, April 1, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes seem a little dark to me, but it just might be my school's computers. Lol. Nice job on this :P Ivystripe 16:33, April 1, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

I took the eye colours from his kittypet image, so it should be fine. Thanks! -- Night  shine  02:56, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? (My first one :D!) 20:40, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks. . . uneven but I guess it doesn't really matter and the whole thing is quite dark. The shading looks almost pure black. 20:46, April 2, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 03:55, April 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * There's like a gray pixel where his leg is touching his chest fur. It might be because of the whole white touching the lineart thing, but just to be sure I would say check it.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 15:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded fixed up pixels -- Night  shine  21:41, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't look fine to me. It's way too dark. 22:34, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Does it look dark to anyone else? It looks fine on my screen. Night shine  22:39, April 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * He looks perfectly fine on my screen as well Nightshine-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 01:36, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading on the paws a tad more? 01:38, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred shading on paws. Night shine  23:52, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the white on the tail. 00:04, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred white on tail. Night shine  00:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Looks fine to me! 00:40, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 04:29, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ice (K) - For Approval
19:13, April 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Beautiful. Make the earpink more pinkish. 19:33, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Darken the shading. :3 20:02, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree about the shading, it just needs defined a bit. Ivystripe 20:32, April 4, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Make the ear pink smaller so that it doesn't cover the whole ear. 21:59, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink a tad bit.Ice Cave 22:16, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ivypool (W)- For Approval
Here's what I got of her so far! Critique? Ivystripe 02:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Pretty good! Blur the highlights and earpink some more, and add some smaller patches. She also has white paws, so fix that. Lighten the white some more, too, so it doesn't look so gray, and add shading. If all the darker gray is the shading, thin it out. 02:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Dont make the highlights so bright. 02:28, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and lighten the silver fur. -- 02:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Extend the highlights on the forelegs, brighten the highlight on the gray part of her forehead, darken the ear-pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:13, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I had a feeling I made the shading too dark. By the way, I got the ear pink from her apprentice image, so I thought that should be right? If not, oh well Ivystripe 16:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Make her white where you had the gray (like her apprentice image). Darken the ear pink to a darker colour. Also whiten her paws and where was the tail-tip from? I'll need to check her charart at the moment E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:41, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened the ear pink, lightened the shading, tried to add more light parts to the legs. Ivystripe 19:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Lighten the whole thing up, it looks too grey. 19:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I uploaded the fixed version but it's not showing. This isn't right....Ivystripe 19:54, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Make the highlights bigger and make the earpink more triangle-shaped. 19:56, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Stunning! blur the highlights a tad, and lighten the white, to make it look, whiter....(<FAIL WORD DX) there seems to be a lighter part on her legs, IDK what it is, so blur it out, if its highlight, its dosen't go there Maple♥  pool  I'm a star gazer~ 21:25, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Make the highlights more visible, and blur them. 23:08, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the gray a lot, and smudge the patches too. And the stripes looks different. . . also the big patch on her back doesn't make sense with the markings on her apprentice charart. And she had a gray patch on her chest. 01:31, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great so far! Center the earpink and make it more trinagular. 04:48, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I can update this at home, but for some odd reason it won't let me type, so I can't say when I re-upload it. Please be patient with me. I looked at her kit image to get her spots the way they are. What's different about the stripes? Do you mean that I should make them thicker, thinner...? Ivystripe 16:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Completely redid the spots and stripes, lightened her silver/grey color, and fixed the ear pink. Ivystripe 19:59, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The markings still don't work. Here she has one huge patch on her back, but on her apprentice image she has two patches on her back. 23:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

But also, that's her other side. I looked at her kit image to help her with the reverse side. If I reversed this warrior image of her, THEN I'd need to use those exact markings. 23:20, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you need to add the chest patch because on her apprentice charart it comes over to this side of her. Also, the edge of the patch on her chest is kind of sharp. Make it a little rounder and more natural. Brighten the shoulder highlight and make the earpink a little more red. Darken the tail shading as well. 23:48, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, I see. Lemme go fix that really quick... 23:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:06, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

It's her other side, but the patches aren't attached and they can't randomly go from unattached to attached. 01:28, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I referenced off her kit image as well, and that's how I percieved it. Do you think maybe you could redline what you mean? I'm just not sure exactly what you're envisioning 209.34.114.210 13:56, April 7, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed it]

Swoop (CG)~ For Approval
Before everyone says change the ear pink, it's the same as the queen image and staying that way. Comments? 02:33, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, make the paws ginger and the tail tip ginger. Smudge the mud streaks so they are a little uneven. Darken the shading. Night shine  02:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe make the streaks thicker and make less of them. They kinda make her look like a tabby... <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaed- Sorry Scarletwind, i didnt see your comment until after i re-uploaed it. I kinda did it anyway though. Anyways i redid the stripes. 03:30, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

The mud streaks kind of look ordered and arranged. Try making it more spontaneous in random places. Make the earpink more noticeable and darken shading on the right side, unless it's coming from there..XD 21:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- the light is ont the right and i already said about the ear pink. 23:59, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink a bit more and darken the shading by the jaw. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:20, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brook (KM)- For Approval
Comments? Ravensoul101 02:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink bigger nad lighten it. Darken the shading and blur it. Darken the nose colour. Smudge the markings. Night shine  02:43, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Move the white pixel in her left eye, it makes her look kind of cross-eyed. Brighten the highlights a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:15, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Make it a darker colour. Also make the ear pink not reach to the tip of her fur. Even up the fur. E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:38, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

The markings on her flank could be smudged a little. Ivystripe 19:55, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Add shading under the chin and to the bends in her joints. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, darken it and make it triangular. 01:59, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Pebble (CG) -For approval-
Pebble is my fave. Tribe cat ^^. Comments? 02:51, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink. -- 03:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights, ear-pink, darken the shading a tad, and make the mud a bit more noticeable. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:10, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  16:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the rightish side of Pebble. Make it lighter. Also do caveguards have legs? E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:17, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Does the mud have shading? I can't tell if it does or not, but some of the shading is kind of hard to tell. That could just be me though. Ivystripe 19:16, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

I'm pretty sure caveguards have legs, E-scope ;) Add some mud to the tip of the tail --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:33, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oops. I agree with Wildheart too. E-SCOPE IS HERE 03:31, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Rushtail (RC) (W) - For Approval
Finally! I'm getting sick of all the gray apprentices X3 03:03, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes a tad more, darken the ear-pink, and darken the shading a bit more. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 03:11, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the stripes; they're greyer on her apprentice image. -- 03:12, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  04:39, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the eyes lighter and darken her pelt a tiny bit,Honeybreeze 12:08, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  17:22, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

You've got a really big dark patch. Lighten it up a bit E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:18, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I believe that's the shading. 19:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights on the tail. 19:51, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  19:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Great work! Blur the ear pink. 23:09, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Rushtail (RC).warrior.png. Define the stripes, darken the shading. Night shine  00:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  00:34, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add a highlight on the tail, or if you aren't using highlights, lighten the shading a lot, and darken the shading on the midriff/belly. Looks good =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:30, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  19:42, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights or darken the shading on the tail, it looks too flat. Beautiful job Nighty. ;3 21:21, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Lark That Sings at Dawn (Ki) - For Approval
I could have sworn I just posted this, but I don't see it anywhere.... huh. Anways, here's Lark! She was just described as a pale tabby in the browse inside for Sign of the Moon and I won't be able to get the book for a couple months. If she's actually given a color anywhere, please tell me and I'll change it to that. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:47, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten her left ear, not the ear-pink. Actually make sure the whole left side is a bit lighter. If this isn't really help just tell me. E-SCOPE IS HERE 18:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

The shading seems a tad dark to me. Ivystripe 19:18, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

I don't think she will get a charart if she was never given a specific color. If she is describe as a color in the book though, she can get one. 19:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Bue Speckletail got one, and for a while Longtail was only described as a pale tabby and he go one. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 22:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Longtail was mentioned at silver in Rising Storm, I believe. 00:05, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Plus we changed the rules not too long ago, so some of those chararts are mistakes... Anyway, if somebody finds a colour, you can do it =) --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:20, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think the color should be brown because since it's Brook and Stormfur's daughter, then shouldn't she somewhat resemble one of them? <font face="French Script MT">Atelda 00:43, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Really, the Erins have never paid attention to genetics. I'm going to buy the book tonight, and I'll see if it has a reference for her color of tabby. 00:44, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Rainlegs to the rescue! Darn that browse inside. It won't let me search it =( --   Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 00:51, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I know about Longtail being mentioned as silver, but we only recently got the reference for that. Alright, thanks a ton Rainlegs! So I guess I'll just wait and not work on this till we find out if there's a reference? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:46, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

If it says tabby and nothing else it means brown. -- Spottedleaf! ¡ɟɐǝןpǝʇʇodS 04:35, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't say just a tabby, it says a PALE tabby. So would that mean light brown? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:43, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

On page 146, Brook says that Lark looks like her father, so that's pretty solid evidence that's she's grey. -- 20:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 20:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Goldenpaw, but Lark would probably be a lighter grey. Also, the ear that is heavily shaded, the bright ear pink looks out of place, add the shade to it as well. The other ear is fine. 23:35, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Goldenpaw, too. I couldn't find any other reference, except for that one. :P 00:05, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, light gray it is! :) I'll work on it tonight and I've decided to redo the shading since I was using a guide before, but I honestly know how to do it on kits already. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:49, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
Since Frostheart agreed.. I decided to do it. I admit, this is the first one I've done from scratch. So, comments anyone? Cloud skye  16:46, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the pelt color lighter and more brown. Make the earpink smaller and get rid of the blurred lineart on the ear. 20:44, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the highlights that leaked onto the lineart on the tail. 00:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait. . . how do you not do a charart from scratch? o.o Anyways, the highlights are a but too bright and the ear pink is too big. 01:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means not having to copy the pattern of stripes or color from a previous charart of the same character. XD Anyways, nice job! Maybe make it just slightly closer to Sasha's color. Looks a bit too orange in my opinion right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Paleclaw, that's exactly right. And what I did was I used Sasha's coloring, since it says she's a tawny, but I darkened it ever so slightly. Re-uploaded. Does it look any better? As for the ear pink, I took it directly off of Sasha's rogue image, so I hope it works. Cloud skye  19:02, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights on the chest, haunch and tail; they are way too bright. 19:24, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and darken them. 20:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good Cloudy! Center the earpink. 04:49, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Highlights darkened, blured and ear pink fixed. Comments? Cloud skye  12:40, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Troutstream (W) - For Approval
Here she is. ^_^ I took all of the colors from her apprentice charart, and tried a different style of shading. Comments? 20:42, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and save it as a .png please 21:00, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back. You don't have to save it as a .png, it can be .gif. 21:02, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Fail. Not darken the shading on the back. XD But since it's coming from the front, maybe make it thicker. Lovely job. :3 21:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Dude...this is just amazing. I see nothing wrong with it whatsoever instead of the things already pointed out. 21:24, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Blur the stripes on the flank just a touch more, brighten the ear-pink, and define the stripes on the tail. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 21:33, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 22:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes a bit, they look a little darker on her apprentice image. Darken the tail stripes as well. Night shine  23:21, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest shading and center the ear pink a bit. This looks great. 23:25, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

This is beautiful! Darken the tail shading a bit. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:29, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 02:32, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Purty 8D The tips of the stripes look a bit blurrier than the rest. 19:36, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 20:00, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Stripes may need smudged a little. This is beautiful though, better than my Ivypool picture! Your doing a good job! 23:37, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 00:16, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Could the neck shading be lightened just a tad? It seems a bit too dark. Cloud skye  16:20, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Screech (PH) -For Approval


Comments welcome. Crystalstar999 10:51, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Add some more mud streaks and please put this in the correct section =) 17:06, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and rename this Screech.ph.png 17:07, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the right section. Make the eyes match the prey hunter ones here (obviously without the eyelashes). -- 20:54, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink should be reddened. 23:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights. 23:26, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blend the mud streaks into the fur more. 23:51, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Add more streaks. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:44, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Crystalstar999 08:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the mud streaks a tad and add some to the legs. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 00:00, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Crystalstar999 11:21, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Dovewing (W) - for approval


Mmmm k. I have Dovewing's warrior image. :D .Skystar. 22:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Completely darken the image to match her apprentice with means darken the shading a TON!Honeybreeze 22:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

This needs to be moved to the right section, unfortunatelly I cannot copy and paste, so could you or somebody move this image to the right section? Ivystripe 22:34, April 5, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

How do you put it in that section? I got no idea. .Skystar. 23:05, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Its been moved. Make the chest highlight bigger, and blur it. 23:13, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. .Skystar. 23:20, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink, make the tail highlight go along her tail rather than just having a ring of light, make the highlights on her shoulder and flank a bit bigger, move the light onto her forehead on her face, and darken the shading. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 23:53, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. .Skystar. 00:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around her and darken the highlights 01:36, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing so it's closer to her apprentice image's color. It looks a bit too light right now. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear-pink, darken the shading more and make it looked rounder, it looks kinda flat, and add shading to her jaw. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'll have to edit her later. .Skystar. Oh!! Waffle time it&#39;s waffle time, will you have a waffle of mine? 02:29, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the shading. It looks messed up. :P 04:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add earpink and blur and/or darken the shading on the back of the haunch. 19:22, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add ear pink. 22:25, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on her back/back of her leg is sharp, it needs to be blurred. 23:39, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Trying to blur the shading on her haunch. .Skystar. Oh!! Waffle time it&#39;s waffle time, will you have a waffle of mine? 00:35, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, center the ear-pink and make it larger. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

How bout now? .Skystar. Oh!! Waffle time it&#39;s waffle time, will you have a waffle of mine? 01:04, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink triangular :3 01:56, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Should I do anything with the shading, or is it ok? (I'll edit the earpink later as well, I have to go.).Skystar.- Owner of all tulgy puddings 01:57, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shadin a lot; right now it looks like you just added shading to the haunch and then added highlights. Blur everything a lot =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 02:59, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Rain (To-Be) - For Approval
Here she is... I don't know her eye colour yet, so I just made it blue. When I do, I'll change it. Comments? --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 01:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

As epic as the spots look, I think speckled would probably be something like the speckles on Goosefeather or Ashfur. I don't think these spots would necessarily be described as speckles. That's just me though. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 01:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think the speckles would be fine, but maybe Frostheart or Night Shine think different. Darken the shading and brighten the highlights, and desaturate the ear-pink a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 01:55, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Paleclaw; giving her leopard spots makes absolutely no sense. She was described as flecked. Darken and blur the shading, and the colour of the ear pink and eye are way too bright. 01:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Nobody knows what kind of speckled she is. I'll redo it if a lead asks for it. The eye colour is temporary, and the earpink is now redone. Please don't post to say what has already been said, Dovesong/Mosspool. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Umm. . . leopard spots aren't a kind of speckled, which Paleclaw didn't say. I was agreeing with them. That's allowed. And I said other things. Cats can't even have leopard spots, and call me Mosspool. You don't need to put Dovesong/. And her eye colour may never be revealed, so you choose whatever it want, but that doesn't mean you should make it insanely bright. And the ear pink is still too bright, and the shading is still unblurred and too light. 02:15, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is insanely bright, she is speckled, not a leopard, and her eyes shouldn't be neon blue.<font color="#C3FDB8">我如何爱春天  <font color="#348781">雲⻗晴 <font color="#737CA1" >Ice Cave <font color="#348781" >雲⻗晴 <font color="#C3FDB8">我如何爱春天 02:22, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Moss: I meant the shading and the earpink comments. They didn't need to be said twice. I'm waiting until there is a reference for her eye colour, and if it turns out there isn't one, then I'll change the eye colour. This is temporary. I forgot to mention I was working on it.

Ice Cave: Please don't post to re-state what has already been said. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:42, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and if I didn't mention it before, we're waiting for lead comments. --  Wildheart  Back from Maui; tanless 02:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't see Scarletwind has said it. And like I said before, her eye colour may never be mentioned, so the fact that it is 'temporary' is not excuse for it to be horrendously bright. :3 And I still think the shading should be darkened and blurred, as well as the ear pink is still hot pink. 02:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'll look for an eye color. 02:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well if you DO get to keep the leopard spots, I think you should take them off the ear. It looks a bit odd with the ear pink over it for some reason. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I don't really think we should keep the leopard spots. IT's not speckled, and it just seems unrealistic. :P 15:20, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, Frostheart, I'm redoing it =) --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 22:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I LOVE the spots! Very nice! The highlights could be defined a little bit. 23:41, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Haha thanks Ivystripe, but I have to redo them =( --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 00:46, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more too. ;) <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid image. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 01:33, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Stoneteller~ Declined
Suggestions?<font color="#C3FDB8">我如何爱春天  <font color="#348781">雲⻗晴 <font color="#737CA1" >Ice Cave <font color="#348781" >雲⻗晴 <font color="#C3FDB8">我如何爱春天 02:26, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

He needs shading and the mud needs to be blurred or smudged. -- 02:30, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading and highlights, brighten the ear-pink a tad, and add shading to the herbs. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 02:39, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink fill the whole ear. 02:50, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I will have to delcine this, it is over the limit. Darkhallows... Mew? 03:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The limit is actually 35, so this can stay up. Night shine  04:03, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

-facepalm- I could swear it was 25. Oops D:. Darkhallows... Mew? 06:15, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Either add more mud streaks on the tail, or take off that one spot. It seems really out of place. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:47, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Needs shading. Ivystripe 19:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

I thought I had this reserved first...? 22:06, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * You actually never reserved this. It will have to be declined. 22:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yep. You never reserved it. Sorry, but this will be declined. 22:16, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Splash - For Approval
Splash as a Prey Hunter. Comments? Leopardclawxx 09:25, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, add shading to the jaw, and add mud streaks. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 12:29, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes more like his To-be image. Crystalstar999 13:47, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Match the colors on the to-be image, and its a her, Crystalstar. XD 20:45, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I've redone the pelt colours and adjusted some of the stripes. I've also redone the shading and added mud streaks. Anything else that needs changing? Leopardclawxx 06:29, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval


My first image! Anyways, comments? 12:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights Crystalstar999 15:10, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the little shading outline lots, add highlights to the back, head and tail, add shading to the legs. 19:34, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

There is shading on the legs xD Nevermind! But you know what I mean XD 19:36, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Blur the highlights, redden, enlarge and center the ear pink. 22:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and title this Whiskernose (W) ~ For Approval...nvm, I'll do it XD 22:11, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, darken the ear-pink, and add a highlight to his face. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 00:54, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the neck and belly and thicken it. Fix the blurred ear lineart. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:02, April 7, 2011 (UTC

With request from Willow's cousin, I am going to help with this image. ❁  YatzSliversword   Ah, spring...  ❁  11:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Dark (to-be)
Dark Shadow on Water as a to-be. Comments? I'll name it Dark.alt.tobe (I think) when I edit it next o3o Done :3 19:27, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights and blur the earpink. :3 19:55, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Dark.tobe.png and you don't have to make a new file to make changes. 19:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I made a mistake, rename this Dark.tb.png 19:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and lighten it. 20:54, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see any shading. You only have to do the light parts since Dark is a black cat. If you want to do shading, make the black lighter. 00:46, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I took the color from Cora's charart (since she is a black cat) and used it. I now realize it's way easier to shade now. 01:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bunch and extend it upwards a bit. Lighten and shrink the earpink. --  Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lion's Roar (Kit) - For Approval

 * [[File:Lion'sRoar.kit.png]]

I'm really proud of this. I especially like the tabby stripes :) 21:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job, Icestorm! Blur the chest highlight, and blur the stripes. 21:57, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the ear-pink, make the nose a bit pinker, and darken the shading a tad. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:18, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look too paintbrush...y, if that makes sense. Either go back and smudge them, or redo them. They just look unnatural. I hope I helped. 23:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Ivystripe. I'd also say makey them a little less green-tinted and a little more browny-orange. =) Make the chest highlight a bit bigger and add some smaller stripes. --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 03:12, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Stoneteller (OTS) (H) - For Approval
Ice Cave never reserved this and I had it reserved yesterday. Comments? 22:04, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the ear-pink, darken the shading on the herbs and tail, and remove the brown pixels by his front paws. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 22:14, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink on the left side is larger than the right side. 22:16, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I really like this one. ^.^ Remove just a bit of the mud streaks. 22:18, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 22:30, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, right now he looks like a brown-and-black cat. Make the mud look more like streaks and also make the ear pink more reddish. Darken the nose. Night shine  22:49, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I kind of like the way it looks like he rolled in mud, instead of just separate streaks... blur the shading though, and make the eyes a little less red XD --   Wildheart  In mourning for Duckling, my phone. 23:01, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Wildheart. I think it looks nice. Add more shading to the herbs. 23:17, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

The fur on the toes completly lose the line art, lighten it up a little so we can see the individual digits on his paws, or cover it completly in mud. It looks strange when the lineart gets lost like that 23:56, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can see all the toes fine. There seems to be a bit of colour outside the lineart by the base of the tail. And blur the highlights (mostly the haunch one). 00:39, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

AMAZING! I also like how the mud looks. I honestly can't see anything wrong that hasn't already been said. Nice job! :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I got the ear pink and nose pink from his cave guard image. The eyes as well. Also, the mudstreaks are that different from Night's:

11:13, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Toadstep (A)- For Approval
My first charart in a long time. I'm not sure I like it though x3. Darkhallows... Mew? 08:52, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Needs highlights. The spots look good to me, but I'd have to look at his other images to be sure. 209.34.114.210 13:53, April 7, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

Shy Fawn (Q)- For Approval
Ok can someone do the eyes for me cuz I'm having trouble. I'll add shading after that. And fill in the white pixels. Dawn of Ages 12:25, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

De-thumbed. Sure, I'll help you with that later. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 12:35, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Try looking at Warriors Wiki:Charart/Apprentice Tutorials. They'll teach you how to do all of those things. 12:36, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Flight of Startled Heron (PH)- For Approval
Ok can someone make this bigger and do the stripes? After that I can do the erm uh....shading and ear pink and all...so yeah. I am horrible at stripes. But hey, at least I get to do a charart! :) Honeybreeze 12:34, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll do that later. Give her eye a pupil and add the ear-pink. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 12:36, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this File:Flight.ph.png. Also, you may want to look at Warriors Wiki:Charart/Apprentice Tutorials. 12:38, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

KK. One minute. Give me like five minutes and I'll reupload it.Honeybreeze 12:41, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

K. REULPOADED Better?Honeybreeze 12:46, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Needs shading. I can't tell if there's any or not, but I'm not wearing my glasses :P So it might just be me. 209.34.114.210 13:50, April 7, 2011 (UTC) [Ivystripe, not signed in]

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Wha....?
How come my Username has been removed from the list of Apprentices on the members board on the main page?- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:23, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Because one of the leads went over the list and removed the inactive people from the list. So you can pobobly re-join if your back. Fea ther  13:33, April 6, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Sorry that I was inactive. I went on holiday, and didn't have time to tell you guys. Can I edit the Members Board by myself? Oh, my parents just told me to feed my two pet cats. I'll come back in a sec!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:55, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Kk, I'm back. Man the meat casserol my cats eat stinks!- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 10:02, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

RESERVE
I FOUND A CHARART I CAN DO!!! Flight of Startled Heron (Flight)'s PREY HUNTER!!!Honeybreeze 18:10, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Add it to the chart before someone else does, and it's yours. Remember to check first, though, just in case someone already has it! Cloud  skye  18:18, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I dont know howHoneybreeze 18:22, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Didn't you read the guidelines? It says how to. (sorry for my tone, I'm a little pissed today) 21:13, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Joining?
Would I be able to use microsoft paint to do this? I think it'll look horrible though.

As long as you can manage to find a way to blur the shading and possibly markings. Also, you need to sign your posts with four (4) of these: ~ Ivystripe 19:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

Sorry. E-SCOPE IS HERE 19:50, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blossomfalls alt
This was vertifed by a warrior cats forum person. Actually she does need one. It was sent around. E-SCOPE IS HERE 19:54, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

It still needs a page number citation before it can be made. -- 20:42, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reservations

 * I don't know, but, stop posting all these unneedded messages here, "I'm reserving this!" Put it on the project page, don't annouce it. We all know, thank you very much. It's annoying and it clutters up the page. I'm sick of going down and seeing, "I'm reserving Brook as a queen! OMG!" Stop it. 20:53, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I like this ;P. Darkhallows... Mew? 08:09, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Me too. Also, remember, if you had previously "reserved" something this way, it's not official until it's on the table on the project page. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 12:38, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Me too. Also, remember, if you had previously "reserved" something this way, it's not official until it's on the table on the project page. <font color="#46d686">Scarlet <font color="#149b50">wind <font color= "#7da8d8">Step into the <font color="#4b78aa">Light 12:38, April 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Icestorm, you're right. It's not on the guidelines, is it? If it's not, it really should be added. Cloud  skye  18:45, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

???
How do you make a charart? do you need microsoft? Please respond Hawkstar500 20:55, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

You need a program that you can blur and smudge in, such as GIMP or Pixlr (I use GIMP, it's like a free Photoshop). Ivystripe 21:30, April 6, 2011 (UTC)Ivystripe

I use Pixlr, you don't have to download it. Thats why I use it. (its works pretty good) <font color="Red">Firespark <font color="Orange" style="background:white;"> I like trains 23:02, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

May I join???Dawn of Ages 00:21, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

You should have waited for me to add you in, but you're new so I'll let it slide. Please read the guidelines before reserving a charart. Night shine  00:25, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'm Back...
Sorry I went in active, I was on a short term trip and had no time to tell any one. I'll be adding me back in 'kay? <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:Black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gray;">Fiercestar <span style="color:goldenrod;font-family:Segoe Script;background:gray;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:goldenrod;">Leader of RiverClan 18:32, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back!!! Cloud skye  18:42, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join please Adder 19:11, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Join
Can I join please! Adder 19:12, April 7, 2011 (UTC)