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Mistystar (L) - Redone
Original artist is Mousetalon :3 Meh, I really hate this xP I'll probably darken the shading and ear pink later. 18:08, July 11, 2011 (UTC) You did take the colors off of her kit image, right? xD Blur the haunch shading. 19:10, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The changes aren't showing :P 19:30, July 11, 2011 (UTC) Fill in the whole ear with earpink. Mintstar  This time for Africa!  20:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The whole ear doesn't always need to be filled. It's the artist's choice. But yeah, Nighty, I think you should darken the shading :3 21:37, July 11, 2011

All I can say is darken the shading and remove the spot above her ear. Also, it might just be me, but her eyes look a little unfocused. Her left eye looks like it's looking up, while the right is looking at you. 01:37, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh, changes aren't showing again x3 You'll know the changes are showing when there's no smudge above the ear :P 08:33, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should fill the whole ear with ear pink,but if you dont want to I think you should at least make it triangular and not an upside-down V shape.But thats just my opinion...do what you like.Dovey Newbie! 15:27, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Yes filling the whole ear shouldnt be optional. The blanks designed to have the whole ear filled. 02:07, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the tail shading. 02:16, July 13, 2011 (UTC) As Rainwhisper said, it's the artist's choice whether or not to fill in the entire ear. Also, I've seen plenty of approved leader chararts with the ear pink not filling the entire ear. 02:41, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes and im changing those right now. 02:46, July 13, 2011 (UTC) Did you darken the tail shading yet? :P 16:15, July 13, 2011 (UTC) Oh, and did you take the color off of her kit charart? that one has already been redone, so this one needs to match. 17:03, July 14, 2011 (UTC) Yep, I took them straight off the charart. Oh, and Reuploaded  23:46, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Good. =) Blur the bottom of the earpink. 01:09, July 15, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded  04:50, July 19, 2011 (UTC) It needs a grey nose.  05:03, July 19, 2011 (UTC) Lighten the highlight on the front leg.  15:49, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink fill the whole ear part that indicates it. 02:02, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

That's optional, you don't have to do that. But make the earpink more triangular and bigger, first. Maybe smudge it a tad later. :3 15:44, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'n gonna withdraw this; I'm far too lazy to continue this xD Someone can take over :3 22:43, July 24, 2011 (UTC

I will. Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  23:01, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- It looked teal-gray, so I made it more bluer. Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  00:27, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hollowpaw (A) - Withdrawn
Added the white belly. Original artist: Hawktalon Darkhallows   Enter the cave? 03:39, July 13, 2011 (UTC) Blur a bit more where the white meets the brown.  Law liet  Li ght 03:57, July 13, 2011 (UTC) Nice! there's a strip of white right next to the arm/front leg, so make that match in color :) 04:06, July 13, 2011 (UTC) Great job! Blur the white part more.  16:32, July 13, 2011 (UTC) Woo. ;3 Smudge the white, a bit, too. Andmake the earpink smaller.  01:57, July 15, 2011 (UTC) Looking good!  16:07, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 17:36, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I've been having problems with my art program, and can't use my tablet at the moment, so... no I can't really work on anything. I'll withdraw this for now, sorry. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 09:37, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Mousefang (W) - Tweaked
Shading fail. Anyways, Here's Mousefang. I redid the shading, but I don't think I like the pattern. Might choose another pattern for this one. Anyways, comments? 05:18, July 13, 2011 (UTC) Oh!

And I believe the original artist was Shaf Girl :) 05:20, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

All I can say is define the shading alittle and make the earpink fill in the ear correctly--

The eye is misshapen, blur shading on the chest, thicken shading on the haunch a tad, make the earpink proper, and I'm pretty sure you're supposed to shade/highlight the tail the other way.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 06:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Plus, the erpink looks a little missapen at the bottom, and the chest shading needs to go on the chin as well. The eye color is too neon. 14:02, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, and blur teh shading on the chest. 16:49, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred as much as I could, darkened eye, fixed eye, darkened earpink, lightened shading at some parts, fixed tail shading, added chin shading, fixed anglement of the earpink...and... yeah. xD 17:35, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink a bit more. :P 19:29, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:42, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Changes were showing, but not anymore. It stopped showing the changed before those two past comments, but it wouldn't let me edit xD 00:03, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, changes are showing again. Sorry I was at the beach all day, re-comments? 01:57, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is blotchy. Would you like me to help as I did with Whitewing, or can you do it? Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:05, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her neck. Looks great otherwise~ Chell;  Aperture Science Test Subject.  19:37, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred as much as I could. Mintstar: I'm sorry that you're doing all this for me ^^' You don't have to blur it though, but thanks anyways :D Getting a new computer soon, it will be great starting from scratch.. 19:09, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, just blue the earpink a tad more~ Chell;  Aperture Science Test Subject.  20:41, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks :D 00:54, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ear pink still looks kinda crooked --

Re-uploaded. 03:21, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading under the ear and the stomach shading where the haunch meets the upper body, close to the back. 03:22, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 18:23, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading. 21:53, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 17:27, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading looks a little too concentrated, if you know what I mean. Maybe it's just me ♔  S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 07:56, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'll fix it. Just letting everyone know that the changes are no longer showing. 16:00, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is blotchy, and I don't think blurring it will help. Try redoing it? Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  22:48, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm working on this, just trying to do it all on GIMP. GIMP is new to me so it might take a day or so. It'll be up by tomorrow. Sorry. 17:24, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, Re-uploaded. I know the shading needs to be blurred some, but here is my GIMP version ^^' Never to use Pixlr again...hopefully :3 Thanks to Frostheart who gave me her GIMP tutoiral on Teamviewer...lol. 18:26, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading on the haunch. Lovely! Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 18:32, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'll fix that little strange line next reupload. Do you think I should darken the legs? :P And thanks Snowdazzle :D 01:20, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink, highlights and shading, lighten the higlights and they're are pink blots in the background, I'm not sure if you'd notice it, so I made a picture. Also, shorten the neck shading. ♔ S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 11:30, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights are fine. I'm proud of you Splashpelt XD, but do redden the earpink, and I know it's hard to find the right color for the ear on these colored cats. Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  23:15, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights with the shading more. 16:02, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Pull the earpink down- so that the bottom most tip of the earpink is a little bit closer to the bottom most tip of the ear itself. Also blur the shading and highlights more.

Sorry, forgot to sign above. Sa lc  ie  21:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around the charart (e.g. above the ear, beside the muzzle, under the tail, etc) 14:12, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I hate this image so much. Rainwhisper helped me out some because I've worked so hard on the shading xP   15:38, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The original artist was Bramble. Now, this might sound stupid, but I think the colour is all wrong now. She looks more ginger than sandy brown... might I suggest going back to the original approved version (before previous Tweak Weeks) and editing that one to improve the shading, whilst keeping the gorgeous colour the original image had? Just my two cents. 21:01, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestar (L) - Tweaked
Ugh... I've had this done for awhile, but wasn't sure about the neck. Anyways, the shading was blotchy, the eye was altered, earpink looked off, and the original artist was Shimmerpool. If it's blotchy, I can remove the highlights. Mintstar  This time for Africa!  15:00, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

She needs silver round her muzzle.Voldemort: Harry, kiss me! 15:02, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I just highlighted the muzzle. Reuploaded. Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  15:41, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Uh, I think it was supposed to be that way, But tweak it if you want x) smudge the earpink and add shading to the front left leg -- 17:27, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Can you lighten the highlights on the tip of her tail to give her a silver tail tip? She has one ;3. Also make the earpink less....flouresent. More naturual. Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  17:36, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Her eyes need to be a lighter coulor. In the first book, it mentioned her eyes being "ice blue". 18:21, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

There's a couple of specks over her ears. Otherwise, it looks fine to me. 19:24, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- forgot the silver tail-tip, but does it look fine? Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  22:25, July 21, 2011 (UTC) Great job! Blur the chest shading a bit more. 09:49, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Should I just remove the highlights, so they won't interfere with the shading? Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  15:09, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks pretty good! I thought she had another scar on her haunch, but i dont remember. Great Job! 15:20, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Can the chest shading be blurred more? 17:05, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight more. Good job! Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:11, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Don't grey cats have black noses?Voldemort: Harry, kiss me! 15:29, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Nope, flip it, BLACK cats have gray noses Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:53, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and gray is a light black. But fur color doesn't nescisarrily matter. Skin color does. I've seen black and gray cats with both black and pink noses. Having black fur doesn't always mean that the skin is black. But I think the pink nose is fine, personally. 17:37, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

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Yes, darken the earpink then blur it. It's optional, but maybe smudge the inner part of the ear upward to make a more realistic feel. ♔ S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 11:34, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- did it show up? This involved GIMP, Pixel Editor, and Frostheart, but all in all, this was my first GIMP image, and I MADE it, all by myself! How is it? <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  18:59, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and/or define the shading, preferably the former. 00:38, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the haunch is going a bit onto the foreleg, so maybe just clean the up a little bit. Sa lc  ie  21:03, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I'm having trouble with layers. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  22:45, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the whole thing a tad, she's blue-gray, not navye. And she still needs a gray muxxle and tail tip. And darken the nose color. This is great! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:35, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around the head, above the tail-tip, and around the paws. 14:14, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- changes showing? Thanks Paleclaw! <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  23:02, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yellowfang (W)~ Tweaked
Original artist was Icestorm. The ears needed to be torn. I wasnt sure if i shouldgive her snaggly teeth, more scars, and messy fur like Thistleclaw, what do you guys think? 19:41, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the lineart on the torn ears thicker. Along with your suggestions, all her chararts should depict her with a broad, flattened, Persian-like face (Vicky confirmed to me that she is of Persian decent) 19:47, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Ivy on the flattened muzzle, but skip out on the long teeth. If Stonetooth's art doesn't depict his long teeth, this one shouldn't either. 19:49, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 04:02, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  15:15, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ear pinks not my problem. 16:36, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the smudging on her pelt a tad? You don't want to lose it, but at the same time it does stand out a little. This is coming along nicely! 21:12, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 14:07, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Make the line-art under the muzzle smoother, It bends in a little on it's way down the neck. ♔ S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 11:36, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job with the muzzle, by the way. 20:52, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Weaselfur (W) - Tweaked
Well, original artist was Sandy, the shading needed to be blured, and because all the other ginger images needed stripes, heck, I gave him stripes too ;3. Comments? Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  22:56, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes smaller, I think. Now he looks less ginger, more brown. 00:50, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should lighten the stripes a bit. They look too dark. I always thought stripes on ginger cats weren't prominent, and you can't really tell that they have them. Well, with this, you can tell. Okay, I'm done rambling. All in all, this looks really good! 11:15, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I redid it. Comments? Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  17:54, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look really, really blotchy. They don't even look like stripes. 19:10, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this looks really weird...I'm NOT trying to be mean, it just looks like the pelt is watercolored or something. You might want to redo it. The white part of the paws coming onto the arms need to be blurred into the pelt a little, and the earpink looks neon. 20:19, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

There's an odd line coming out of his chest and a dot behind his head, floating in space. And I agree with them, it does look a little blotchy, but I think it's cool. 21:31, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

And their's a small red dot outside the charart. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:10, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I already said that. 02:33, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit smaller, and there's loads of blurred lineart. And yeah, I agree with Ivystripe: The pelt looks watercoloured, but it's nice that way, I think, and get rid of the extra white above the white on the foot closest to us. It's messy. And the back lineart looks a tad thick. You might want to redo this.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 02:44, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I redid it. Again ;3. Better? Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  15:16, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. But I think the lineart onhis shoulder is blurred a bit. It might just be a dark stripe fooling my eyes, though. 16:36, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on his haunch and chest/jaw area are too dark. Smudge them or lighten them.  HA WK FI RE98  16:56, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on his chest stops as a straight line, making it look unnatural. Maybe curve it a little. 17:56, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Again with the too much brown. D: If the stripes were this prominent, the books would've described him as a tabby. Most ginger cat's stripes don't show much. 17:59, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Add the pupil in the eye.Dovey Newbie! 20:09, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

The blue lines mark where the line-art has collided with the fur, and the yellow is to mark you should de-saturate that area. Blur the highlights and white paws. Other then that, nice. ♔ S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 11:41, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I don't know what to do with the stripes..... 3; Comments? Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  17:06, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty. x3 Just define some of the stripes on the back. 20:29, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Try blurring the stripes on the tail some. 22:14, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the upper half of the chest shading, as it seems a bit too dark. 08:15, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

It looks really good! Except the earpink looks blotchy. 16:05, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  13:40, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Daisyheart (D) - Redone
Not sure if changes are showing or if I got all of the blurred lineart. Original artist was Honeyrose/Bramble. xD 16:16, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Give her stripes. 16:37, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Good job, I don't see any blurred lineart. 18:59, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Can you make the earpink a tad darker, I can't see it that much. *needs glasses* Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:08, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid it so I could add stripes. 22:17, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Gorgeous! Define the stripes on the front paws a little. 22:19, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... just an idea, but I think the ginger patches would look more natural if blended a bit into the white. 02:34, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

There is blurred line-art in the muzzle area. Darken the earpink and there is smudged lineart where the first white patch on the tail meets the bottom (I hope you got that xD), along the back and on the haunch. Pretty good! ♔ S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 11:47, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

There isn't ANY blurred lineart. I redid the image with layers. And Reuploaded. :3 15:17, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the white fur. Smooth out the transition between the ginger and the white. 16:33, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back. It looks like there isn't any there. 08:13, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 15:50, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. Looks amazing, othetwise. 16:34, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I know it didn't say to do this, but cats' spots aren't perfectly round like that. X3 I would like to her patches smudged out a bit!  HA WK FI RE98  19:20, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights. A little bit to bright for the pelt color. 02:48, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Mehhh. 15:40, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Stonepelt (E) - Tweaked
Original artist was Quickstep. I added a scar to his shoulder. 16:44, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

The scar looks a little thick, maybe thin it out a little. 19:00, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

It's suposed to be thick. It's a "large scar". 19:07, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you used the paintbrush tool for the scar: yes, for does make the scar kind of raggedy, but they are very smooth, so maybe you could try sing the calligrapy brush on a very small setting, and blur it a tad. 20:21, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe darken the scar a little? I don't think most cats would've survived if they'd had a cut that large in the wild. The color makes it look larger than it is. 21:33, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

The scar looks too smooth and painted-on, so here's an example for scars:

Yes, I made a whole new Charart to just draw a selection of scar types because I was bored. SELECTION: Cross-Hatched(circled with green), Straight(circled with red), and Zig-Zag Spiky Thing(circled with blue). Zig Zag Spiky scar is pretty dumb, though.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 03:08, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ehh, I think it would help if you example scars were a bit thicker and flesh colored. The ones on the cat on your user page are really good! I say use that as an example over this one. 03:11, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Moonflight said it was a "large scar", so probably something like thisOh, and the original artist was Quietstep, no Quickstep xD -- 03:24, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Of course, it would HAVE to be smaller than that...but I do think you should add ragged edges to it, but I still think the calligraphy/pen brush sounds good to do the scar. 03:28, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

The scar looks fine to me.... Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 14:53, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Just make the scar smaller more defined, then it shall be approved. :3 16:00, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:32, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Buzzardstar (A) - Re-done
Ewie. I don't particularly care for this. I was the original artist, and I re-did this as a tabby. 17:31, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the stripes. Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  17:55, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes look like the leader image. 19:03, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh! I didn't realize his leader had stripes. 19:08, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I tried. I took the earpink from his leader, but I think it should be changed. 00:25, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, possibly make it lighter? Also, perhaps lighten the highlights just a little. 02:22, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I lightened the entire image since I did not add highlights. I re-did the earpink with Firestar's color. 21:48, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Cloudtail (A) ~ Tweaked
....I just put Littlecloud up, and it was already approved. Wow. Anyways. White cats are evil. Original artist was Icestorm, and it needed shading. 17:36, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his chest and neck. Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  17:56, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 20:23, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. 21:13, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 21:16, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Besides darkening the shading a little, I see nothing wrong. :)  HA WK FI RE98  16:58, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hawk, I'm afraid if I darken the shading, the image will start to look gray-ish, and I don't want that. 16:57, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 16:11, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Dapplecloud, I didn't USE highlights. I never do. 16:32, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little more. 18:09, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better? 23:05, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Beechfur (RC) (W) ~ Tweaked
Needed shading. Orignal artist is Sandwich989. Jeez, this is an awkward color to work with. 18:45, July 22, 2011 (UTC) Add shading to the chest. 18:52, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I had added shading to begin with. I think I blurred too much the first time, so that's why you didn't see it. 18:58, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Add a light part to the top of his back foot, and blur the front arm shading more. 21:16, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I have an idea. Am I going to get yelled at if I re-do the image, but follow the exact same color scheme? The darker part of the legs was already there, and it's hard to work with... 14:09, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I re-did it, and cut and pasted the ear pink and the eyes. 14:49, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  15:58, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Been sitting here for an hour doing this, and I do believe I only made it worse. Re-uploaded. 17:27, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

The eye looks a little strange. Maybe you put too many blue pixels in it?  HA WK FI RE98  16:08, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Then that is Sandwhich's problem, not mine. It said to tweak the shading, and that's exactly what I did. 16:23, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

No need to be rude. All I'm asking is to fix it while you're still working on it. :/ Please fix his eye.  HA WK FI RE98  19:18, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Let's not get mad. But Hawkfire is right. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  19:55, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I know what Hawkfire is saying. But, it's not part of what needed to be tweaked with the image on the nomination page. I'll do it, but only this time. 22:42, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm not changing it anymore. If you're having issues with this still, take it up with the creator of Cinderpelt's charart, as that's where I got the colors from. 22:55, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Dappletail (E)- Tweaked
Original artist was Mossfire&Stealthwhisker, and she needed white patches. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  22:28, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Meh, the line between the white and the black on her face and chest looks unatural. Make it more curvy --

The line's just going straight across, that isn't really natural. xD 22:36, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make it blend in more; also, did you do something to the earpink? Sorry, but the earpink looks like a big blurry blob 22:44, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- Ivystripe, I noticed that too. But I wasn't sure if I was supposed to fix that since I was only supposed to add white patches, and her other images have earpink like that. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  23:09, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the image name to Dappletail.elder.png Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 23:21, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

There needs to be a white tail-tip. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 04:50, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

This is great! I love it! There needs to be a white tip like Maplepool said. Other then that, it's awesome!<font color="#FFE600">Moon <font color="#0276FD">stream 13:56, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the white patches. Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  15:26, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the lighting on her haunch. At the moment it makes her look like she's made of plastic. 16:31, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading on her white chest, paws, and muzzle. Just a light silver shading.  HA WK FI RE98  16:59, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! add white tail tip. 20:02, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Get rid of the white muzzle and make it gray like in the description. Dovey Newbie! 20:21, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Also, change the file name to Dappletail.elder.png. 21:09, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- there doesn't need to be a white tail-tip. It's not in her description nor her apprentice image. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  01:01, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Hm, werid, there was...but whatever, it says she has a patchy coat...so add the patchieness(<I didn't know what to call is SOOO...) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 20:26, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I tried, but I'm not too sure. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  19:40, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Try using Stoneteller (NP) as a reference for patches. 21:49, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Unless someone else agrees, I won't change them. I used Purdy as a reference. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  00:23, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The patches look way too abnormal. Darken them to match with her dark fur, pink patches are seen better with darker fur xD 15:57, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- what? <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  22:52, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Spottedleaf (MC) - Redone
Yeah...This is Spottedleaf and I have to say, I'm pretty proud of her. 15:15, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and darken the shading. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 15:20, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is fine in my opinion, I can see it clearly, however I darkened the ear pink. 15:29, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Everything is WAY too blurred. Make the other colours noticeable. 15:30, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: 15:45, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make it like her apprentice image. It should be brown, not black, right? XD 15:48, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. ''' 18:15, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make it like her apprentice image. :P 19:04, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: 22:15, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

The patches that were once ginger look really muddy. Saturate them. 00:43, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

What happened to the orange? Her description calls her brown and orange... 00:53, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I can see slight bits of orange but it does need more orange to match her description Dovey Newbie! 13:46, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

It needs to match her other images. Add more black and orange to her pelt. And also, smudge the white chest and paws out, give it some character. Right now it is very dull.  HA WK FI RE98  16:06, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Froonie, my lover, helped me with it <3 Luv ya Froon. I re-did it basically. Wee. 21:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink larger, add more patches to her body, define the tail stripes, and make the nose-pink a little darker :3 Good job Icey :3 ♔  S u n s p i r i t  ♔ Back in... uh, yellow? 21:20, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Much better! There's just an odd orange patch on her chest that leaked over from her legs. 00:01, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Thanks for your compliments guys :) Shelly, I don't get what you're talking about, I didn't see any ginger patch on her chest. Sunny - I got the patches from the apprentice image, so yeah x3 However I defined the tail stripse, made the ear pink larger and darkened the nose. 00:23, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The brown patches are getting a bit too dark. Make them browner. Nice job. :D 02:22, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

There, I circled the little patch. I guess it's more like her stomach. 02:34, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Can you see it? 02:35, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

No...xD 17:52, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ah well. I guess it doesn't really matter much. 18:01, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Mistystar (W) - For Approval
Finally works! :D I'm proud of her, too. 15:29, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Original artist? Revisions done? The shading on the back near the shoulder looks really thick. Either lighten it, or thin it out. Make the earpink triangular. 16:30, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the color more like her leader/kit image(s). Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  16:45, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Along with the earpink being triangular, it also needs to be larger. 19:06, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the eye color a but more blue. I think its to dark. 21:10, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I don't know who the originial artist was since Sandy renamed the file so I don't really know. I changed the color of the image and made the shading on the back thinner. I made the ear pink more triangular shaped and made the eyes a bit more blue. 23:36, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shoulder highlight, and make the earpink bigger. 00:40, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

She looks almost white... 00:54, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

She's too light, Icey. Try using the colors from her deputy image. Also, I think Sandy was the original artist. I can ask her if you need to know; I talk to her on Skype. 08:10, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make it darker to match her other images. Dovey Newbie! 13:48, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the image MUCH darker, and match the shading to her other chararts. :) Beautiful! The ear pink needs to be bigger and smudged a little bit. Lighten her eye color as well.  HA WK FI RE98  16:05, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: The highlights were the one that made her white, sorry for the excessive highlights xD However I matched her color to her deputy's image, and re-did the shading and highlights. 00:27, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Weedwhisker (E) - Redone
Uhg, his discription is so weird. x3 Anyway, original artist was Icethroat21 and his flecks needed to be smaller and he needed to be lighter. :3 16:19, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the flecks more white, they look creamish. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  19:17, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the front paws a tad ;3 22:59, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Looks tons better than the old version. Shouldn't he have stripes, though? Or is that exclusive to ginger cats and not orange as well? 00:44, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think that's just ginger cats. And Rainy, this looks SOOO much better then the other one (no offense to Icethroat!). Also, lighten up the shading on the back, please. 08:06, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Thanks guys. ^^ 15:29, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make it a tad redder, it's a bit yellow-ish right now, Other than that, I see nothing wrong. Good job! ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:50, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 14:53, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Firestar (L)- Tweaked
The original artist was Nightshine. All I did was add a scar on his flank. 16:31, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the scar, or at least change the location of it. I had to do a triple take to find it. 16:36, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I thickened it, since I can't move it. 16:50, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make it blend a little with his pelt. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  18:55, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should add shine to his eyes like other leaders have. 00:46, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. He already had the 'shine' in his eyes. 01:55, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, sorry. I guess I just can't see it. 01:58, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Rainlegs, but...can you move the scar up a few pixels? I'm really having a hard time seeing it. 08:05, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:09, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Jayfeather (Kit) - Redone
Original artist was either Fawnstorm or Elorisa. Um...yeah, I added mottles to the paws, and since the tail was already short...I didn't make the tail shorter so yeah. 18:18, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

He needs more stripes, especially on the head. 19:05, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger....it is like a dot, do as Ivystripe said, he looks like Ashfur(TC)'s kit image a bit, Make the nose color, a lot more gray-pink, like Feathertail's kit image, maybe even Stromfur or Crowfeather....Lighten the tailshdaing a tad, and blur it a bit, ok? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 20:22, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

The nose has to be gray, not gray-pink. Also, the original artist was Fawnstorm, then Elorisa tweaked it, I do believe. Blur the tabby markings. =) 08:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I made the nose gray and added stripes to the head and I made the ear pink bigger. 00:30, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes more like the apprentice/warrior images. I know that's kind of hard to do on kits, but just add some more waves and like oomf. lol. xD get rid of the dots. Make the earpink more triangular/bigger. xD 02:21, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes should be more of a pale blue, like in his MC art. 02:28, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The eye on <--- this side looks kind of weird. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 21:09, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (W) - Tweaked(Redone)
Yuck. The mottles look messy to me, and I didn't want to overblur them. I couldn't work with the original image, so I made a new one. He needed mottles and his original artist was Bramble, I believe. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  19:12, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

I don't like the mottle closest to his face. XD Make them smaller and smudge them into his pelt to give them a furry texture. Make his spiky fur outside the lineart, if you know what I mean. Erase the lineart and add spikes of fur then close it together?  HA WK FI RE98  19:27, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, mottles are supposed to be smaller than that. It's a bunch of little spots of darker and lighter color. Also, I was just about the suggest the spiky fur outside the lineart xD But if you need an example, you could check out Kinkfur's warrior charart. 19:46, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the mottles a little, at least. If you're worried about messing up his fur, then add the two details on separate layers to they don't affect eachother. 00:48, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think you need to make the fur look more spiky and sticky-out. Dovey Newbie! 20:17, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I got the lineart from Kinkfur's(credit to who made that.) <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  19:42, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should make the base pelt color mottled, and then add darker mottled patches like his description says. Also, why is the tail like a brown-gray color? Make it the same color as his pelt. Oh and blur the mottles a lot. 20:20, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, I think this looks more bushy than spiky. Maybe have all of the fur sticking out face the same direction? You may have to do some lineart editing, but it would help. Also, keep the original spikes that were on his sides, otherwise he looks flat. 20:22, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Someone else can work on it, I'm taking over Mistystar. And the spiky fur is fine as it is. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  23:02, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take over ;3 So uh Reuploaded And before you tell me to change it to a .png, I can't because my computer doesn't let me upload .png files :P 15:49, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more mottles. :3 The white face is a bit too dark, so brighten that up. 15:51, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking my suggestion. :D I think it looks much better now. 17:38, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Change the file name to Thistleclaw.warrior.png so it replaces the old one. 17:48, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Foxleap (K) - Redone
Foxleap as a kit :D I redid him to look like his apprentice and warrior image. I believe the original artist was Brightfrost :3 00:01, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes more noticeable. 00:01, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Frostheart, make the stripes noticeable, I can't really see them. <font color="#FF3399" face="Segoe Script">Silver <font color="#9900CC" face="Segoe Script">light  00:50, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded, but the changes aren't showing. 02:11, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, they are now xD 02:12, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading.  HA WK FI RE98  16:01, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, it looks like he barely has any shading. 16:35, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. And just to say, you don't need to repeat the previous comment. I understand what you all are trying to say. Lol xD 17:24, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes, looking good Splashpelt! And define the earpink. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  19:50, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think they need to be defined anymore, but darken the shading a little more. ;3 21:56, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes like have a weird tint/hue to it. It loooks sort of grayish purplish. Sorry if it is just me, but if it isn't, make it a darker version of the base. xD 02:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded, changes aren't showing. I redid everything, the shading and the stripes :3 03:49, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

They show right after I publish... xD  03:50, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Brokenstar (D) - Tweaked
Insaneular was the original artist. I merely added torn ears. 01:58, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

The ear on <-- side doesn't have a point on it (Well, half of it does, and half of it doesn't). Should that be fixed? It looks kinda dull. 08:00, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

There's a little waste above its right ear -- 18:33, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Much better. :) 21:57, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Tawnyspots (W)- Tweaked
The Original artist was Darkhallows. All I did was change the earpink color and re-shaped it. 02:51, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Straighten out the base of it a tad. 03:56, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

There's a loose speck in front of his feet. 18:53, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darkflower (W) ~ Tweaked
Original artist was Spottedwing. Needed more shading. So, what d'ya think? 07:58, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste around her and in the little space between all of her legs. :3 14:59, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should lighten her eyes a bit. I can barely see them. 15:33, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink as well. There are gray smudges all around her.  HA WK FI RE98  15:59, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Gray area fixed. I'm not touching the ear pink nor the eyes. Call me stubborn, but that's not what was listed on the TW page for Darkflower. Also, Re-uploaded. 16:30, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well, she never formally appears, does she? We don't even know what color her eyes are. 18:52, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Eye color needs to be MUCH brighter. I cand see them 22:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. Looks like I have to re-do this one too. >.> 22:44, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Y'all happy now? 22:47, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Seville (K) ~ Tweaked
Original artist was Flamingomom. Added stripes. YAY 8D  HA WK FI RE98  16:25, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Why didn't anything show up?!?! Wait nevermind  HA WK FI RE98  16:26, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Seville.kittypet.png 16:31, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ahhhhhh DX Okay, this image will be just plain ginger for a few seconds. Lemme change the file name.  HA WK FI RE98  16:38, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  19:51, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Dove's Wing (TB) - Redone
Original artist was Bramble and the shading needed to be fixed. I took all of the colors from her original image, so basically all that may have changed was the earpink shape and the shading. ;3 19:42, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  19:52, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 14:55, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The red circles are where the shading has leaked over the lineart. Dovey Newbie! 20:24, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Stormfur (CG) - Redone
Original artist was Bracken-, and then I think Sandstar12 just tweaked it. xP His shading needed to be redone and his mudstreaks needed to be blended. It's supposed to be a tweak, but I had to redo it in order to do so. (Like Dove's Wing) I took all of the colors from his orginal image. ;3 20:17, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken them shading a bit. :3 02:18, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 14:58, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink needs defining - make it more pink. Leo pard  claw I’m a  warrior  now! 15:48, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hawkheart (MC) - Redone
Meh. ._. Anyways, original artist was Warrior♥, and it needed mottles. 21:06, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Haunch highlight kinda looks like a stripe .-. Make it lok more circular -- 21:12, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

The haunch highlight looks fine to me. 00:16, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Purty ;3 Darken the ear pink. 00:24, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good, but I agree with Nightflower, darken the ear pink just a tad. <font color="#FF3399" face="Segoe Script">Silver  <font color="#9900CC" face="Segoe Script">light  00:56, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/Add shading on the herbs ;3 It's awesome Froon :D 03:55, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. @Silverlight, please refrain from repeating comments. 16:42, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Icecloud (K) - Redone
It needed to be long-haired. Original artist was Elorisa. 21:06, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

No. . . her page says she's sleek ._. 21:27, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...someone must have taken it off, but it was Dark River 259, 'Icepaw fluffed up her, FLUFFY fur, and turned to her brother...." ..anyway, brithen the chest Highlight. Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 21:40, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Beautfitul Frost ;3. Blur the shading and earpink a tad. Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject.  00:02, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reupploaded . 16:41, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Mothflight (MC) - Redone
Originally by either Icethroat21 or Bramble. The shading needed to be blurred and the earpink needed to be fixed. I ended up just pretty much redoing the whole thing. I wanted to get this, and Pinefur up before Tweak Week was over, but I actually won't be able to work on it at all this week. I'm going camping. So please don't decline this or Pinefur, I'll be back by next monday. Maybe even this saturday. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:31, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

This looks good, but maybe you should lightne the shading just a little. 13:55, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Pinefur (W) - Redone
Originally by Sandstar12. The stripes needed to be blurred (and the shading could have used some work) but I couldn't manage to blur them right without ruining the whole image. And I like doing tabbies, so I figured I'd just remake it. she only has one image anyways. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:31, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Add a stripe to merge the chest stripes and leg stripes better. Sorry that's vague. xD 01:20, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Russetfur (W) - Redone
Meh, Froon convinced me to get off my lazy butt and do a charart :] This charart was originally supposed to be tweaked, but I was having issues with the shading, so I just redid it :P 02:50, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a bit more ;3 First Foxleap, and now Russetfur... We think alike cuz' ;D 03:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Change the file name to Russetfur.warrior.png so it replaces the old one. 03:21, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh, the changes aren't showing xP Oh, and I can't make it a .png because my computer won't let me upload it if it's a .png. 03:58, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

And FYI, the changes don't show when I first put the picture there for me too, but they appear after you publish it. Odd. Lol. 04:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Question about Leafstar's images
Ok, I know I put my question in the incorrect place last night, where nobody could see it, so I'm just making a new section for it. On the Nominations page, I had originally put Leafstar's images down as needing cream (I DON'T see cream anywhere on her images), and somebody chnged it to just needing cream stripes. I'm confused as to how she has cream on her: I mostly wanted to clear that up, because I'm doing her queen image, but it'll be hard to make it match if she's not tweaked for the right thing. 16:07, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

There are cream blotches along her haunch, her back, her fore-head, her tail, her stomach, and her left fore-leg. I really like how this is, the cream is nice and soft. I never pictured her with cream blotches patched all over her, I think it was supposed to be much more subtle Night Fall 19:14, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like brownish-ginger to me. Berrynose is cream. 20:17, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well it blends into her pelt more and it looks pretty cream against the brown. It doesn't have to be like Berrynose cream, then it would look kind of odd and stand out too much in my opinion. 17:13, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like highlights to meWildfire 02:34, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Not to me. Highlights are brighter tones of the pelt, but the cream here isn't at all the shade of brown. I think Rainwhisper is right, if we did each cat with the same color of cream, then they wouldn't stand out as individuals. I think every cat that has cream on their fur has a different and unique shade of it. I think she's beautiful as she is Night Fall 02:37, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well, usually when a cat is cream and tabby it means that their stomache and muzzle are totally cream, such as the white on Billystorm. I think the character art is nice, but the cream is unnatural. 19:37, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that they look like highlights. Maybe at least add a cream underbelly, chest, or muzzle, like said above? 19:03, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I just really hoped she gets tweaked soon, because while Tweak Week is going on and I can't submit anything, I want to try to get it as ready as I possibly can, since we have a lot of chararts to do, and I need the right cream color (fyi the cream on all her images ARE in fact different, so one has to be picked for all of them) 20:25, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I want to see it drawn more realistically, too. For once, the cover art on the super edition looks closer to her description. Is it on the list for tweaking? 03:25, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Talk Page
Something seems to be wrong with the talk page. Whenever I edit something, and I think this happens to anyone who edits anything on this page, all of the comments and things get jumbled together. So.. um, does anyone know what's going on? xD 14:40, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm having the same issue. I think someone's signature got messsed up. 14:46, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

That's what I think, because not all of the talk page is like that. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  15:11, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Questions:
Hello! I have a couple questions. First, when is Tweak Week going to end? Second, where is the list of chararts that need tweaking or being completely redone! Please comment. Thanks.  HA WK FI RE98  17:30, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

The Tweak Week nominations are here :) 19:16, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

August 7 ;) 19:18, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

It might go longer. We have a a lot of images left to be done, and i doubt we can finish most by the 7th. 19:47, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would strongly press for an extension. If we keep going at this rate, we'll never finish. 20:08, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with Moonflight. I've already done four chararts, and I still don't think that's enough. 20:16, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay so I'm not the only person thinking it should go longer. It would help if people nominated more warriors, and possibly make it so we can reserve 3 chararts at a time? Thoughts? 01:04, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

You should only make it three for the ones that can handle it. Heck, there may be some members that can only handle one or two. Although, three does sound like a good idea. Or, we could just extend TW an extra week or two. I can do as many as needed, but only within my skill level. 01:38, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hi.Im Sol988.I would like to join to make chararts.may i please join?

!!!It's Sol988!!! 14:35, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you in, Sol988. Take a look at our guidelines and some tutorials to get you started. Also about Tweak Week, I think those ideas sound good. I looked at the list and we have a long way to go. x3 14:39, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintstar  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  15:10, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I agree to extending Tweak Week, but how long are we going to extend it? The list is quite long, and a week or two may not be enough for some of the images needing to tweak (i.e. shading). Many apprentices I know are eager for Tweak Week to get done so they can work on their charart. It's a bit unfair to keep them waiting especially to the ones that have just become apprentices. As for the 3 chararts I think it would be a good idea, as people would know what they're limits are. Nominating more warriors would be good, but only if you think they're ready to tweak images. 15:50, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay i added a third colum to the reservation table, and got rid of the dates, because we dont need them really. I'm noit sure how long we'd extend it, we might aswell just wait and see how many are left when the time comes. 16:48, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Good idea. I'm not sure why the date thing is even up there, since I don't think people chance it every time they reserve a new charart for TW. 17:01, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, plus there are a LOT of images to do for the Warriors App, Crookedstar's Promise, and The Rescue, so it's going to have to end some time. I do agree that sounds like a good idea, allowing warriors to have more images. By the way, as long as I DON'T edit the Pending section, can I go ahead and update the charart I have reserved? Just so it's here? 20:29, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you can... We all know who had who. That won't change when TW is over. 20:32, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'll let people know it was reuploaded. 21:17, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, how long was Tweak Week last time? Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 00:53, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea, but I've been thinking...I KNOW there are a lot of images that need to be done, but at least those characters have images. There are many cats, such as Firekit and Beetlenose that have absolutelly NO pixils, and they need some. I do think that if the admins want it to be significantly longer that we should still be able to resume doing normal pixils. There are more chances for Tweak Week 00:57, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Scroll up Snowdazzle and Ivystripe. ;D Also, it should be decided if Tweak Week should be longer by the leads in this project. 00:52, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Umm...I to have a question, when Tweak Week is over, will the page go back to the way it is, or will we have to re-cailm everything?....Sorry, this is my first Tweak week, so that has been nagging at me for a while.... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 21:50, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Everything has been stored, so when Tweak Week ends, things will go right back to where they were ;) 22:29, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Images
Why are the changes on images not showing again? Is it because they're too many pictures on this Wiki? Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:14, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Not sure. 23:01, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

New Suggestion
I had an idea after looking at the page for Sunfish, who is only ever given a description by her appearance in the manga at the end of Crookedstar's Promise. If a cat only appears in a manga or isn't described in detail in a book but is shown in a manga, can we go with the manga description? I know there would be color problems, but we could just set the charart to generic colors and put 'tabby', 'totoiseshell', 'mottled', or something like that on the page. Just a thought. 17:46, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

It depends on how the character is drawn. 18:39, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

That's the point. It's not that hard to decipher pelt type in the manga. I really wish we'd use this as a rule. It's how we chose Tadpole's description, isn't it?

How to get Approval?
hi I was wondering how I can get just a charart request from another user approved. Say if I requested one, how would the user i requested to get it approved. Thanks! 18:53, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Chararts that are done for other people don't need to go through the approval process. =) 18:55, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * But what if a user wants their charart on a charcat like some users have? and this doesnt need to be answered but how do. things get approved and if i post my own charart here, can i get it approved for my own charcat. Sorry if it's confusing.


 * One, remember to sign your name with the four ~ 's, and two, those aren't official charcat things. Those show a user's personal information. You don't need to have them approved if they are going on your own user page. The only way a charart needs to go through the approval process is if it's going on an official character page, like Firestar for example. 21:37, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * And also, this project is specifically for character art of the real warrior characters. Art made from someone's or your own will does not need to go through a stage of comments or approval, just straight to the user who wants it. 21:41, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * And also, this project is specifically for character art of the real warrior characters. Art made from someone's or your own will does not need to go through a stage of comments or approval, just straight to the user who wants it. 21:41, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Two questions:
I have two questions:

1. Even though I'm not an apprentice yet (I'll be one on August 6th), and since I saw that tweak week might not be done on the 7th, is it alright if I work on some of it? I can show some of the work I've done recently. If you say no, that's fine.

2. When can we show regular charart again? I did Firekit(Leafstar's daughter) and I wanted to show it. 20:52, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean Tweak Week art? if so, then no.

Hopefully nobody has Firekit reserved, if she isn't then when Tweak Week is over you can put it up for approval. 21:14, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Why can't apprentices to Tweak Art anyway?

And oh, ok ^^. Once it's over I'll try to put it up asap. 21:19, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

And for the other question, they feel that warriors should only participate in tweak week for that the idea is to tweak and help the art already made, and that warriors are more experienced and can handle tweaking. Hope this answers your question ^^' 21:36, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks for the answer! C; 21:41, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry
Hi everyone. Look, I'm sorry to ask this again, it's just last time I was wrong about it, but this time I know I'm right. I'm sorry to bother everybody at this busy time, because I asked this already and I know I shouldn't again but...I was added here as a kit on June 22nd and that was a month ago so...can I be added as an apprentice now? I know I asked before, and I'm sorry but, I just need to ask it. Thanks. Shadey  Set Fire to the Wind... 00:53, July 25, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

This kit system is annoying xD. Sorry Shadey, I'll change you too an apprentice. What does everyone think of adding the date a kit joined to the table, so we don't miss anyone? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 09:29, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

That is a really good idea. It would save us the hassle of having to go through edit history and all that fun and joyous stuff. 09:30, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, that would help us a lot. ^^' 14:37, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Is rainflower open?
May i do the charart for Rainflower in Crookedstar's Promise? If someone is already working on that then can i do Silverstream as a kit? 12:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

You can't because you're a kit.<font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="5C3B7A" >A circle is <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">roundular 12:07, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Joining
Hi. I was wondering if I could become an apprentice in Project: Character Art.

Lakewillow 22 19:55, July 25, 2011 (UTC)Lakewillow 22

Welome to the project! You will be added in as a kit, so you can't do chararts for a month, but in that month if you comment a lot, you'll go up to apprentice. A lead will add you in. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  20:06, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you in. ;3 Take a look at our Guidelines and some Tutorals for any help. 21:16, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Dovewing Charart
Why was it decided to use gold for Dovewing's eyes? I'm pretty sure we should go with the most often used description of blue, personally. I know gold was the original (even though technically the original from Sunrise was green), but if we went with the original for everything we'd have Rowanclaw as a female. 04:01, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, yes, gold IS the original. But Rowanclaw was first described as male, then he turned female, and went back to male, so we ARE going with the original. It wouldn't be pretty if we went with female, since he has a mate and kits. o_O. 14:07, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, look back at the last chapter of Sunrise. It calls Dovekit a light gray she-kit with green eyes. It makes more sense for her to have blue eyes, look at her relatives. Her sister, grandmother, and grandfather all have blue eyes. And the first time Rowanclaw had a description (in Midnight) in the alliengences, is was as a she-cat. In fact, a lot of the earliest descriptions changed over time. Lichenfur's entire appearence changed, and the first four leaders became five and knocked -star off of their names. Why only go with the original ideas that the Erins have changed? Has someone tried to get comfirmation from Vicky on it? 15:40, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Shellheart has a point. I believe we should go with the one that was said the most, in my opinion xD 18:42, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

And that's blue. I'm pretty sure her eyes were only called golden one time... just like they were only called green one time (and I'm pretty sure why the artist for the cover of the Fourth Apprentice made her eyes green on the cover). The warrior art for her originally had blue eyes, and was only changed to golden at the end. 19:08, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Apprentice
Can somebody add me in as an apprentice? I've been a kit for a month. Thanks! Wild   breath   12:30, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Pine
I've FINALLY uploaded a charart! I've been quite a lazyhead and Pine hasn't been done yet, so here he is!

His lineart is brown... and you saved it in a way that left it with a black background, when it should be transparent. Keep working on it, you'll get it. Also, always leave four ~ when you leave a comment. 17:13, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Joining 2
Thanks for adding me! I must tell you this, though: I am going to get a new paint app, but it's going to take a few days, so the month-long wait to submit art is fine.

Lakewillow 22 18:03, July 26, 2011 (UTC)Lakewillow 22

Another Question *feels bad for doing this Dx*
I have another question, and I bet all of you users are getting sick of me posting here x3.

But on August 6th, I'm able to become an apprentice, and I was wondering when I post the topic asking so, may I reserve a cat I want to do for charart? Because I finished Firekit and I'd really like to show her. 19:02, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so, unless Tweak Week is finished by then, but I highly doubt that. Sorry, once Tweak Week is over and you're an apprentice you may. ;3 19:08, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Approving
How do tweaked or redone images get approved? I totally forgot :P Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 21:15, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

They don't go through CBA, after 24 hours of no comments they get approved. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  23:06, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I Just Want To Get It Straight
I just want to get it straight to people: stop repeating other people's comments. Say, if I said, "Darken the shading and smudge a patch," and Rainwhisper said, "Agreed!" And then Frostheart said, "Agreed with Icestorm," and Splashpelt said "Agreed with Frostheart, Rainwhisper, and Icestorm" and Nightflower said, "Agreed," would you want a flood of "agreed" on your charart? No, I don't think I would. It's highly annoying too. I think one comment can get it clear. 22:10, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think it says so in the guidelines too, not to repeat others' comments. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:white;">Mintclaw  I may be bad, but I'm good at it!  23:07, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Icestorm for saying that... xD And yeah I agree with you, it's sort of annoying to have people just saying "agreed" or whatever. 23:15, July 26, 2011 (UTC)