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Ancient Tribe Blanks ~ For Approval


(ill crop all of the extra space on the next upload.) Comments? 03:56, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Why do those look slightly different from these? o.o The blanks should be pixel-like, how the ones in your PI are. Also, if you just want to put one long-haired and one short-haired up, that's fine, that way we don't have four extra images. You can just add eyelashes/remove them, depending on which set you have first. The only difference between male and female ones here are the eyelashes.

Because, I tweaked them a bit. I can easily make them pixelated: I just didn't have enough time right this second. I thought I'd just go ahead and post them now, so I can fix anatomy errors while I'm fixing other issues. ^^` -- 04:19, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Elongate the body, and perhaps make the ears a bit thinner. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:28, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Well, like the other blanks, they do have to be pixelated. I wasn't sure that you were aware of that or not, so I figured that informing you would be a good idea. If you could please do that, I would appreciate it. I won't comment much aside from small issues- anatomy is not my strong point.

Maybe flatten the rump a bit. 06:35, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Add a bit more fluff to the longhaired tails? I told you you'd win! 07:59, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

For the longhaired blanks add more fluffiness all around. 3:05 PM, Mon Sep 15, 2014

Would you like a redline? 15:52 Mon Sep 15 2014

Also, in generally I'd recommend flipping them so they don't get confused with the elder blanks. 15:53 Mon Sep 15 2014

Try smoothing rounding out the line about the shoulder, and maybe make the line for the chest reach all the way down? Sorry if I'm being unclear, I'm crap at wording things >< 16:36, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

The forepaw that goes on top of the other one goes up awkwardly, so maybe try to show that it's connected to the leg? Sorry I am really terrible at explaining stuff like this. 20:31 Mon Sep 15

Re-uploaded. Better? ^^' I dont have a tablet, so drawing these with a mouse is difficult. ^^' But, i tried to add all of the above. Im aware that i have to fix the eye on the shorthaired blank, and the ear on the longfurred blank. Im aware of some issues, but i didnt have enough time to fix them on this upload. ^^'-- 02:23, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

They still have to be pixelated, and Breezey's suggestion for flipping them so they don't get confused with the elders is a really good idea. ^^

Make it so this > front paw doesn't look so short and almost rectangle-like. Make it more curved like < this one. These are really good. ^.^ 03:08, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Uhm so I forgot to reflip them around but the image is the same. Here are some redlines. 3:17 Tue Sep 16 2014

Elongate the body more, lower/flatten the rump a bit especially on the longhair, make the tail way fuller, and flatten the forehead a bit. Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:18, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Breezy told me the redlines could be used as a reference, or just lined directly over. The redline helped greatly; thank you, Raelic. Better?-- 04:27, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

This looks really good. :) The only thing I can think of is make the tail even fluffier. Look how full this tail is compared to the rest of the cat: http://thornews.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/norsk-skogkatt1.jpg I can do redlines for the tail if you want. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 04:29, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Also, make the shorthair tail a bit thinner. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:34, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

It wouldn't hurt to add a bit more fluff to the longhairs all over, methinks. 08:48, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

The lines could be a little bit thinner. i'm still so glad these won because that pose if beautiful imho   Brick   14:45, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

It could probably only be thinner in certain places. I think, comparing it to some of the other blanks we have, they're around the same thickness.

The neck kinda resembles a dragon neck. Can you bring the neck line behind the head a few pixels closer to the nose side of the head? Like move that line over >>>> this way more. 20:35 Tue Sep 16

Can you elongate the body just a tick more? 8:44 PM, Tue Sep 16, 2014

Re-uploaded. I'd rather not elongate it anymore, it looks fine to me. Moved the neck line, fluffified the longfurred more, and made the short fur tail thinner. Better?-- 21:51, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

The arm on <<< this side looks awkward. Move the chest line <<<< more so that the chest appears larger. 23:57 Tue Sep 16

Make the longhair tail fluffier with a tiny bit more of a point to it (look at the Queen and Elder blanks to see what I mean) and the shorthair tail should be even skinnier. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:11, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I think it might be fluffy enough, it just need a bit more of a tapering off at the end. It's the shorthair that needs to be much skinnier. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:59, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Lengthen the visible back leg? It looks a bit short to me.--EosOfTheDawn (talk) 18:10, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

I think for the back leg if you erase a bit of the line separating the leg from the foot it may help. Do you want me to give you a redline? 7:11 PM, Thu Sep 18, 2014

redline as per request. I think if you move the tail out away from the foot a bit more, and elongate the foot and erase a bit of that line it'll help. 11:19 PM, Thu Sep 18, 2014

I think the shorthair tail should be thinner than that, personally. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:40, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'd thicken the ruff on the longhair's neck 03:26, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

I will reupload soon. =) Probably sometime this weekend.-- 02:30, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better?-- 01:03, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Make the tail on the shorthair thinner, and have more of a tapering off for the tip of the long-haired tail. The thickest part of the tail should be the middle. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:14, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

I did that in the last upload. Do you want me to add more?-- 01:22, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. It looks like you added more bulk to the top of the tail, instead of thinning out the top of the tail and adding more bulk to the middle of the tail. Would you like me to redline? And yes to thinning out the shorthair tail. It's close, it just needs to be a bit thinner, especially when compared to the longhair tail. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:27, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Give the longhair some more floof on the tail. 1:40 Thu Sep 25

Don't forget to reupload, Breeze. While you aren't required to match the "week limit" without uploads on blanks (that would not be fair in the least, as these require much more time), it's probably a good idea to let us know what kind of progress you've made.

So sorry for the lack of uploads! I've been insanely busy with school. Im working on the reuploaded version now. =)-- 15:26, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps make the longhaired blank's paws a bit more furrier? 19:17, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

lengthen the hind leg 03:26, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

After thinking about this for a long while, I've decided to withdraw from working on these. I just don't have the time or motivation to work on them anymore, and its not fair to you guys for having to wait for these blanks to be approved. I've been majorly busy with school and life, and barely being able to be on the computer. But please remember: Whoever takes these and puts them up for approval, use the same stance. The nomination was for the member's favorite pose, and this pose was voted as the best fitting for the Ancients. Again, im sorry about this. Im just happy i was able to win the vote, and ill look forward to seeing whoever decides to post these next. =) Preferably, i'd like to offer these to either Shinx or Hawky to put back up for approval, since they were nominee's in the vote, so its only fair.-- 23:08, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

You withdrew them?? Well, I'll take em please, if you're absolutely sure and it's OK with the project. 23:17, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good! I'm sure Shinx will do well! Thank you for doing these so far, Breeze! 23:21, 10/10/2014

Question: Will we be maintaining the same pose? 23:46 Fri Oct 10

I've asked Shinx, and told them both Jayce and I believe the same pose should be kept. So most likely, yes.-- 23:48, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. That is the pose we voted on. To change it now throws that vote entirely out the window and it's not fair at all to Breeze, who requested her pose be kept.

I wouldn't change it anyway; I adore this pose and it's much better than anything I could come up with. 23:54, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups I killed them. 08:51, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Thin the left paw a bit? don't worry you didn't kill them at all  Brick   10:25, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups thrice Tweaked the shorthair tail too, and then I tweaked the paw again. And then I played with the longhairs a bit. Apparently, drawing shorthair tails is as bad as shading them. 11:33, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

The neck seems too large in the back. If you move the line over a few pixels it should do the trick. Also, thin the forepaws some. These are actually quite nice as they are, I must say. 13:48 Sat Oct 11

Thanks, Hawky 14:12, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

The hind foot look a little room oval-like. Try defining the toes like for the forepaws 16:44, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups 17:07, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

This looks great! Maybe make the shorthair tail a touch thinner, and close the mouth around the tongue a little? Just a suggestion. Jayie Unwritten words~ 18:30, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups thanks jayie 18:47, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Awesome! :D The only other thing I can think of is that on the longhair, the fluffier part of the neck shouldn't be at the top right next to the head, but towards the middle and/or base of the neck, since long-haired cats tend to have sort of ruffy necks. Also, move the cheek fluff to the left a bit when you do that. Jayie Unwritten words~ 19:00, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups Could I please have a redline of the longhair haunch from someone? It's bugging me, but I can't seem to get it right. 19:33, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

I can help you out, if you'd like? 19:46 Sat Oct 11

Yes, please. The haunch looks strangely shaped on the longhairs, but I can't fix it. 19:50, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Here you go. The blue is line that needs to be removed, and the red is what I offer. <span style="">19:58 Sat Oct 11

Thanks 20:06, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

The tail on the shorthair looks really thin towards the tip, and thicker towards the base. Try evening that out a bit?-- 20:20, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

These look really nice, Shinx! =) thicken the farthest front leg from us. And if you could, make the back and haunch of the longfurred more fluffy-looking? 00:00, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I think the front leg that's closest to us needs some thinning out. I honestly think the haunch is fine, but the foreleg needs to be thinned out some. <span style="">1:38 Sun Oct 12

Re-ups Is it possible for me to get a redline of the shorthair tails, please? 08:38, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Here. Hmm, I hope this is okay. As before, the blue should be removed and the red is what I offer. Hopefully it's not too thick now. <span style="">14:07 Sun Oct 12

Re-ups Thanks! 17:10, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Tbh, i dont see anything else wrong. These look amazing, Shinx. =)-- 17:15, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Because of the pose, would the back leg furthest from us be visible, because of the belly? 17:39, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I think so. I haven't got a very good reference, since I can't find an image of a cat in that pose so I'm going by memory, but if you want I can remove it, since IDK if it would be or not. 17:48, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe just remove them? I dont think they'd be visible. These are beautiful. =)-- 17:52, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re-upped a while ago 19:10, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Dawnpelt (Q) ~ For Approval
When I get this approved I'll be a warrior. c: Shading is smudged once again, but only slightly so I won't mind blurring some but I won't do it too much. Comments? EDIT -- I don't think wikia is showing changes so here~ .. 02:17, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading. 09:24, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I wasn't happy with it anyway :3 Now I am. If changes are not showing.. 13:10, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Oooh, I like this shading style. Define the light source- the legs say it's coming from the front, but the head and tail say the back. 14:07, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks!! c: And yeah dem stupid short-haired tails x.x. I hope the face shading is alright I spent a while on it lol. 18:31, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Expand the belly shading? 15:29, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

Smooth out the smudges so they don't seem as visible. I think when you're smudging the shading, say if you smudge it vertically, you should probably also smudge it a bit horizontally as well to make blend the shading a little better. Beebs and David both have wonderful examples of smudging on queens, and Paleh's charart, Lilyfur's queen is another marvelous (and very neat) example.

Re-uploaded. Went ahead and redid the shading. I loved both Beebs and David's style but I wanted to try out how Paleh did the amazing shading style. So I tried. :D If changes are not showing.. 19:37, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

Oh that shading is amazing~! Maybe just fedine the edges a little bit? <span style="">9:34 PM, Wed Sep 24, 2014

Re-uploaded. Thanks!! :D If changes are not showing~ 02:09, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

darken the shading, i cant see it at all. 10:16, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 13:01, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Define the facial shading.

Re-uploaded. 22:07, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Comments? 11:19, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

It hasn't even been two days, Darkfrost. Please don't ask for comments unless it's been at least three- anything less than that is making people seem impatient. Define the light a bit on all four legs, face, and tail.

Re-uploaded. Sorry, I honestly thought it was the 29th that day, and I couldn't remove it after posting. The weekend goes by too fast. *.* 12:29, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

Give the shading a bit more depth 15:26, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'd prefer not to touch the shading anymore~ 23:12, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Well, I think in certain spots, it could be darkened. In general, here's where I think it could be. It's as simple as adding another layer of shading just in those spots.

Re-uploaded. Added that layer. And thanks for being specific, because I was getting lost with the other comments and it seemed like I was doing the same stuff over and over again, which is why I just said I don't want to touch it anymore. ;) 00:30, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Comments? 17:11, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Again, Darkfrost. It hasn't been three days or more yet, so please be patient. After three days, then it's fine. I told you before that anything before that is not okay to start asking for comments. I think perhaps the shading could be thinned out on all four legs, since it appears rather thick in some places and initally made me think your color was off. Plus, some images do go without comments and then they get a CBA. It's standard to go a couple days without comments before getting one of those.

Sorry but it has been 3 days (almost four) where I am at the moment. So technically it was a fair question for it has been three days where I am. Anyway I'll do that but I might redo my shading to make it more smooth and hopefully perfect. 20:43, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Redid the shading because, you're right, the smudged shading was messing with Dawnpelt's color, so I went with a blurred shading. It works better and will make getting this approved a lot faster. But I'll continue to practice that type of smudged shading.. 21:20, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

First thing- we go by the wiki clock, and according to that, it was only a little over two days. And- blur the belly shading, it's looking a little bit blotchy. 21:26, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Oh my bad, I misunderstood. x.x 00:34, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading where it would be darker- like perhaps the belly, base of the tail, and back legs.

Re-uploaded. Also played with a few other parts of the shading.. 11:21, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Define he tail shading. 18:24, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine. It is pretty dark and visible already. 18:36, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

You asked for comments on my talk page, and Beebs saw that and provided a critique. You can't pick and choose which comments you want to do when you asked for them. I do in fact agree with Beebs- define does not always mean darken. Define means to "make the shading in question more visible to the eye", and I believe that tail shading could be defined.

Okay okay, thanks Beebs I'll do that. .-. 20:10, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. It's just I hate those damn short-haired tails. x.x It's impossible to get the shading on them just right. Thanks for the comment again, it is appreciated. I'm just in a sour mood because I have a bad cough. :x 20:24, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading a bit? <span style="">22:13, 10/6/2014

Re-uploaded. 13:31, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading/light on the far back leg a bit. 14:35, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 22:20, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail a bit more. Given your source, there probably should be a bit more there. At least these tails are more than two pixels thick lmao.

Re-uploaded. Ikr? Lmao x3 00:14, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Could you define the chest shading? Sorry to make you blur it and hen define it again. 06:46, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Lol it's cool I figured I'd have to do that again. But were gonna have to reach a climax it feels like I'm doing the same things over and over again. xD 12:30, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

After all this time, I'm still having issues seeing the light on that tail. It doesn't even look defined a whole lot.

Re-uploaded. It's a pain in the ass xD I'm for sure doing a long-fur next. I tried adding more depth to the tail shading, and I expanded the highlight so it's more apparent where the light is. I also added more depth to the rest of the shading because I thought it needed more. 11:13, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

This is amazing, so I'm going to give it a CBA. <span style="">14:42 Sun Oct 12

So sorry to interrupt, but could you blur the shading on (our right) side of her face just a bit more? 18:03, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. You're fine. And thanks, Hawky. c: 20:32, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Frost (SC) ~ For Approval
Guess who's back! c: ...And a little out of practice, I'm afraid. <span style="">21:15, 09/30/2014

He's gonna need the texture, like what the rogue image has. Unless he does already have it and I can't see it? Also, lighten the shading just a bit.

Re-uploaded Yeah, there was texture, it was just way too light, oops. I darkened it some. <span style="">21:50, 09/30/2014

Lighten the stomach shading some. 22:13, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten the overall shading some more. Its making it look pretty gray. My suggestion would either be lighten the opacity, or using a blue-ish tint. Thats up to you, though.-- 23:30, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded It's really not that dark, you can easily tell that he's white. I did mess with it a bit though. <span style="">00:36, 10/1/2014

Lighten everywhere except for the face and tail shading? Just a tiiiny bit? <span style="">00:58, 10/1/2014

Lighten shading, show more white on the cheek and muzzle, and especially on that left ear. I can tell what you were trying to do, but the shadow looks awkward when the light's supposed to be pointed right at it. Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:20, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Define the texture more. welcome back Shim!! c: 03:56, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">18:35, 10/5/2014

The white on his face looks a bit gray... perhaps whiten it a bit? 19:22, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

The left ear still seems far too dark - recede the shading a bit there? Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:06, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Still working?

Grasspelt (Star)~ Declined
My first charart to becoming an apprentice! It's Grasspelt as a starclan cat, I was suprised no one had chosen him to do yet  12:45, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Lovely eyes! It's surrounded by waste, though, and define the light on the tail. 13:06, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

You need to reserve this image in the table on the front page for the project.

Reupload Lightened the tail, and fixed the 'blocky' look of the highlights on the front paws, in case anyone noticed. The eyes aren't my favorite, but I don't know how to do better. '3'  23:05, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

The shading is leaking away from the back, right near the tail. If you don't understand where I'm talking about, it's right here. Just add a bit more shading there. Also, define the light on the tail (you can either remove soe shading or add a highlight on top of it. Removing shading will probably be your best bet) <span style="">23:15, 10/2/2014

Changing heading to "For Approval", and making you an apprentice, since you clearly know the basics and have done quite well for your first charart.

Reupload Took care of the business with the tail, it looks a lot better. I'm going to keep this up until this gets approved, I am so happy right now, and thank you Snow. - 23:49, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

There's some waste by the shoulder and head. 07:18, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Blur or smudge the earpink <span style="">08:39 Fri Oct 3

Reupload I tried blurring the ears a bit more, Amber, but I use Pixlr so I just erased the ear base a little to make it appear blurred. Also, I fixed the waste, I caught it finally. Finally, I added some star sparkles to the eyes. In total, this image so far has the most layers I've used for a charart (personal or not): 16. - 12:15, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

There's still waste. On the lineart layer, bucket tool the whole outside of the lineart in a color other then black, select by color, and then erase it all on every layer. That'll get rid of it, on GIMP at least. 16:18, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Reupload I'm ready, if I ever met Grasspelt irl, to punch him. I'm just annoyed, but I wouldn't really do that >3<'. Caught it, I thought it was the shading but it's the highlights. Comments on eyes? - 18:56, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

You need to use Grasspelt.star.png when reuploading. You can upload over the same file multiple times.

Reupload Fixed the file name - 18:56, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad? <span style="">19:11 Fri Oct 3

Update I lost the file with the layers in it, I'm not kidding. My chromebook restarted ;3; I'll try my best, but don't be surprised it if it looks dramatically different. - 19:20, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Aww that sucks, good luck! <span style="">19:21 Fri Oct 3

Define the earpink a bit (if this is the reuploaded file idk) <span style="">21:36, 10/3/2014

Still not the correct file name. It has to be File:Grasspelt.star.png, not File:Grasspelt.starclan.png <span style="">10:26 PM, Sat Oct 4, 2014

lighten the shading all together. 23:28, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

There's still a bit of waste and the right paw's light needs to be defined. Nice job! 19:34, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

The < pupil looks a bit warped because of all the white. If you expanded the pupil a bit more that could work. It's not mandatory so if someone thinks that's not a big deal it's coolio with me. I'm a nitpicker :3 16:20, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm... suggestions Maybe add some shading right where I have parts coloured in, and define the earpink in the ear I circled? <span style="">22:11, 10/6/2014

Still working?

Declined due to lack of work. <span style="">14:43 Sun Oct 12

Whiskernose (E) - For Approval
changes So I'm quite proud of this. <span style="">16:32 Sun Oct 5

The shading looks like it's leaking away from the lineart in a few areas, like on the chest and the front leg closest to us. I also think the shading on those parts could be lighten for it looks a little blotchy than the rest of the shading. I like this .o. 12:36, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

The shading looks fine to me, and it doesn't seem blotchy at all. Could you smudge and/or blur the ear pink a bit?

Oh no I just saved the file =/ anyway, Reups! changes are here <span style="">16:58 Mon Oct 6

Define the shading/light on the tail and legs? <span style="">22:06, 10/6/2014

Still working?

Reups. meh I've been busy with school.... anyway I defined the overall shading to go with the back shading. <span style="">13:02 Sun Oct 12

Some of the shading is fading towards the lineart. <span style="">14:44 Sun Oct 12

Slightly define the neck shading more and even out the tail shading. 01:43, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten the shading around the back of the haunch/rump, and add some depth to it. 11:17, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Stormcloud (Lo) ~ For Approval
I love these blanks. 07:23, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading a bit, please.

Re-ups  08:52, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Wouldn't he need his collar?? 23:01, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

I think so, since we have nothing that shows he lost it after he "joined" ThunderClan. I'm not talking as an apprentice; I mean as a kittypet/loner.

Wheee collar :D  07:00, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Oooh stylish collar =) with this light source wouldn't the tail shading be flipped? Because the tail would be getting the light like the feet/legs would be, like right through the underbelly if ya know what I mean. If I don't make sense somebody feel free to explain what I mean. XD 16:28, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

My light source is supposed to be the top right. If it were going right through the underbelly, the back would be shaded and the belly would be light. 16:30, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Okay you don't get what I'm saying. .-. What I was saying is that no it's not looking like it's coming front the top right. Currently this is a lightsource from the right coming < this way. The way the tail is shaded now does not match the current lightsource. If you want it to come from that direction(top right) then you're gonna have to shift some shading around. That's all I was saying. 23:11, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

There's no need to do the ".-." thing, and I'm pretty sure she understood what you were talking about- disagreeing isn't always not getting what someone is saying. It looks like you're annoyed and comes off as kinda rude. Regardless, the source is fine and matches the ones used on various other images all by different users.

Not sure why all my comments come off as me seeming "rude" or "annoyed" because they don't. I'm simply commenting. And the ".-." Is another way of saying I'm confused. 23:28, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Well, not everyone takes it that way, and ".-." is an emote commonly used when someone is annoyed, disgusted, or irritated with something. Okay, anyways, as for the image itself, perhaps define the shading on the collar just a bit? ...or would that entire thing be in shading/pretty much in shading because of the source? I don't do collars on loners very often to know.

Re-ups There already was light there, I defined it some. 06:37, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Add some more depth to the shading, and define and/or darken the collar shading. 19:38, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups 08:54, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Heronwing (Alt.Warrior) - For Approval
So much stripe :o 19:02, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and define the shading a tad. Lovely job as always, Sziri. 19:59, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

The stripes don't look blurred on his apprentice, and I think the shading could be blurred a bit, instead of defined. This should also be named File:Heronwing.warrior.alt.png. Would you like me to rename it for you?

Re-ups Yes,please:). Thanks Bluestar:3 19:18, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Renamed. There you go. =)

Thank you:) 05:04, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Define the earpink just a tad more. This is pretty! =) 00:07, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

You did a great job! However, the pattern on the belly and to a lesser extent, the neck and face, get lost in the shading. Could you lighten the shading there a bit, so we can see the pattern through it? 06:41, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups Thanks:) 18:31, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front leg closest to us. 11:41, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups 12:33, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps define the light on the tail? Lovely charart, 13:21, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups:) 14:26, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Blur or smudge the stripes a smidge. <span style="">13:06 Sun Oct 12

The stripes aren't smudged on the other images, so I think they're okay as they are. --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 15:20, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on all the legs - I like this tabby pattern! 17:57, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups 19:18, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I gotta agree with Amber's earlier comment about the stripes. Smudge them just a tad bit. This is pretty, Sziri. =) 03:09, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Lionblaze (Alt. Warrior) ~ For Approval
First time I've truely loved how my texture came out (thank you for the tutorial, Ferk). Comments? 21:07, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

His eyes should be amber, like his other images. Also blur/smudge the shading (whatever your preference is) so it's a bit smoother. Could you also smudge or smooth out the texture a bit more too? All in all (I'm being nitpicky), this is really good. .o.

Reuploaded. I didn't realize the eyes had to match even if it's an alt. And thanks. 21:26, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hey no problem! I'm sorry I never got around to that other one.... Oops. Anyway, friend, the texture on the tail should curve with the tail. It looks like it's all going one way. I wanna know how everyone gets their texture to look feathery like this. Please tell me how. Mine looks blocky and lame. <span style="">22:04, 10/6/2014

It looks like you've got a blank spot of shading on the back. Did you mean to do that? Ferk, try blurring your texture. That's how I get mine to look somewhat normal. <span style="">10:14 PM, Mon Oct 6, 2014

Reuploaded. Basicly, I put the texture layer on multiply and added the texture. Then, I blur it (using blur tool), and used the smudge tool at a size of 05 (Gimp). I set the layer opacity and then duplicated it (mostly to give it definition). And yes, I meant to do that. 22:22, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading.

Reuploaded. 23:39, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs and feet, and blur (and possibly expand) the tail shading, mainly around the base of the tail. 06:39, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 18:48, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

No comments in a while, and I like this, so CBA? <span style="">14:44 Sun Oct 12

Sorry, but the shading on the side by the haunch is blotchy with a light patch surrounded by shadows. Also, you might want to curve the shading edges a bit more and blur it. And slightly nit-picking, but the shading is receding from the lineart on the back of the cat. 01:47, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Alt Q) - CBA
pregnant orange cats are like pumpkins <span style="">21:54, 10/6/2014

Define the shading on her right paw a tad? yes   Brick   05:58, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Well, it certainly fits in with October. Halloween kitty! Blur the chest/shoulder next to chest shading a tad. 08:55, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Oh I love dem pumpkin kitties. :3 define the shading on < this leg. 01:57, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded also defined the shading on the tail. <span style="">21:37, 10/10/2014

CBA? This is gorgeous. c: <span style="">14:45 Sun Oct 12

Harespring (Kit) - For Approval
First time doing kit on here. No idea how well I did the brown patches. Comments? --Stealthfire star (talk) 00:35, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading, especially on the tail, and smudge the brown patches a bit. Shorthair tails and kit blanks are going to kill you. Good luck. 08:43, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Reupload thanks for the warning! I've darkened the shading and darkened the tail seperately. I've smudge the brown patches a tiny bit and blurred a bit more. --Stealthfire star (talk) 09:00, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge them a tad bit more, they need to match the other images as much as possible. 12:49, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Looking at the other images, there should be a brown patch on the left. Also, the brown on the right of the head needs to go down to below the eye to match the deputy and warrior images. Brick 14:49, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Reupload a had a closer look at the other images. They're all not the same??? So I went with belly and chest. I added the brown down below the eye and a little at the side. --Stealthfire star (talk) 21:59, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Uh, they should all be the same. =/ I made the warrior and app, and the deputy was made using the warrior image. Smudge the patches a bit more in wavy/circular motions.

Reupload Must be the angle or something. Anyway, I believe you. I tried smudging in a circular pattern but I had a lot of trouble because I had to use a different program that's not as farmiliar, but as least I have the smudging option. That's partly why I''m searching for a mentor. Oh and you want to do the kit? I don't mind switching. --Stealthfire star (talk) 03:53, October 8, 2014 (UTC)''

Yeah, it's probably the angle. Also, no, you're more than welcome to work on the kit image. I have no interest in really doing it, unless you'd rather a simpler cat, such as Larkwing's gray alt, which I have now (and the one I just put up). If you'd rather a solid image, I'd be more than willing to let you have her. =)

I'm good. :) Thanks for the offer. --Stealthfire star (talk) 03:59, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front paws. Brick 19:08, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Reupload --Stealthfire star (talk) 21:31, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Make the edges of the brown a bit more... fluffy? Look at his Deputy image, see how it's smudged so it looks feathery in a way? (am I even doing a good job explaining?) <span style="">10:21 PM, Thu Oct 9, 2014

Reupload I gave the edges a good smudge so it looks less solid or like a line. Is that what you mean? --Stealthfire star (talk) 23:47, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

A little bit. See how on the chest of the Warrior and Deputy it kinda feathers out? That's what I mean. When I was working on his Deputy, Cloudeh told me to smudge it in a circle with a 2px brush I believe... I may just be being nitpicky though so anyone feel free to disagree <span style="">11:54 PM, Thu Oct 9, 2014

Reupload I just jumped in there and gave the brown patches a nice smudge. Is that better or is this too hard for me right now? --Stealthfire star (talk) 00:02, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Pfft nothing is too hard for someone who practices and puts their heart into it. =) he's looking amazing! Extend the middle brown patch down in between his legs. And smudge the brown patches in almost an outward circular motion size 2 on a rate of roughly 70. Make it look almost like chainsaw blades. I know it sounds weird but trust me that is what it reminds me of~ 11:57, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Reupload =) --Stealthfire star (talk) 22:19, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs <span style="">13:07 Sun Oct 12

The white between the back paw and the (our right) foreleg is a bit grey. 18:00, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Reupload --Stealthfire star (talk) 22:24, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Pebblefoot (Star) - For Approval
this pattern was too hard to match Brick  05:55, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the paws. Well done! 08:44, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, thanks! Brick 21:10, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

You need to make him paler to match the tweaked warrior (kit and apprentice shall be tweaked shortly); I just ran the dodge tool over it. 21:46, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, used the dodge tool and lightened the opacity of the flecks a bit. Brick 22:20, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

He needs to be paler I believe. And also it may be just me but the image looks tinted green. I also see stray solid pixels on the tail. 12:00, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, the image shouldn't be appearing greenish, and it doesn't look green on my screen. Might just be your monitor. Brick 15:32, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Changes, http://i58.tinypic.com/vsdf9x.png Brick  18:23, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not seeing any greenish tint on my screen. <span style="">7:58 PM, Sat Oct 11, 2014

The direction of light is confusing, particularly with the tail shading and a little bit with the chest. You also might want to consider darkening the shading for the chest/paws/face region. 01:52, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Jessy (Lo) ~ For Approval
This took way too long and I can only blame school for that...comments? 23:12, October 7, 2014 (UTC)

Define the collar shading. This is gorgeous Shoon~ 01:54, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

The collar tag is rather strangly shaped, could you make it a bit rounder? 07:16, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 23:29, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

The collar tag looks like it's defying gravity, if you get me. Could you perhaps fix that? 06:34, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

As much as I somewhat agree with that, I think it's fine. The blank depicts a cat walking, and the natural motion of that would make the collar tag move along with it, as well as the bobing of the head (it's hard to keep your head steady). <span style="">6:51 PM, Thu Oct 9, 2014

Haha I almost posted that same exact comment earlier, Rocket. =3 Define the light on the legs farthest from us, and define the light/shine on the collar tag. 19:56, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

There is no light on the legs farthest from us, so I can't exactly define it. I'll define the light on the collar tag, though. 20:08, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

No comments for a few days, so let's go CBA.

I'm sorry to interrupt, but would you define/darken the collar shading? I can't see it at all. 23:11, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I can see it just fine, honestly. We're going to continue the CBA unless someone else agrees.

I gotta agree with Darky here. It could be defined just a tag more =P 01:45, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Larkwing (BS) (Alt W) - For Approval
All colors are from the app and kit, which I'm the OA of, so I got them directly from that file.

I'm sorry to make you do this Define the tail shading? 08:00, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Damn tails.

Define the head shading some more and define the light on all four paws. And I hate to do this to you, but expand the tail shading at the bottom of the tail so it covers the whole base of the tail, and then define the light just a teensy bit more(as in like a pixel more) as you get to the tip. Damn my queen tail is just about a pixel or two thicker! Lol. 12:45, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Tweaked the tail (a bit) and head shading, but I'm not adding any more light to the paws, as I think it's fine as it is. There is light on the paws and to define that any more would probably make it seem blotchy and then I'd get asked to blur it. The tail shading on these is a lot harder than they are on the queen blanks, and there's nothing else that can really be done to define it more without putting unblurred shading on it lmao.

Define the shading everywhere but the tail? 09:19, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I may actually redo the shading when I'm more awake, so hold that though for a bit.

Re-uploaded. Redid most of the shading.

Darken the shading everywhere except the tail. Not too much though. 03:03, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Pebblefoot (E) ~ For Approval
He is very old cat. Very fluffy, yes. Comments? 23:22, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Define the neck and facial shading a little more. Very pretty Beebs~! 03:39, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

re-up 18:41, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Sharpen the edges of the shading a bit? I think it would really make this pattern look neat.

re-up 22:00, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Stoatfur (BS) (Alt A) ~ For Approval
last person didn't put a date so I think I'm allowed this? anyway.........gold star for trying?? 07:33, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Define the tail shading. This is lovely! 08:09, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Definitely a gold star. It's gorgeous! =) add more ginger on the face in that solid gray patch for the alt w has more there. And then smudge all the ginger a bit more. -gives gold star- 11:46, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Very nice. :D Smudge the markings just a smidge, and give the facial shading a bit more shape following the face - and recede/lighten it a touch. Jayie Unwritten words~ 13:30, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Define all of the shading just a little bit? I /know/ it's there, just having a bit of a hard time seeing parts of it. <span style="">7:57 PM, Sat Oct 11, 2014

re-uploaded defined it everywhere but the white since its easily visible. thnx guys 00:57, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

The shaded part of the paws looks a bit too grey. 17:46, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

i dont see how? you can easily tell theyre still white. 23:14, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Tornear (star) ~ For Approval
Yep, this is very soon after my last one, is that even allowed...

Well, I tried, the stripes are really hard to match because the artist is obviously better than me, and trying to transfer the design onto a starclan image is annoying. I've only just noticed but why is Tornear called Tornear if he hasn't been described with a torn ear? 20:04, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

The shading seems quite flat. Darkening it or adding another layer of shading would be the fix. This is pretty! <span style="">21:36 Fri Oct 10

Re-uploaded Thank you, Hawky, I've duplicated both shading levels, so that it should be a lot more defined. -- 22:45, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Define the ear pink on his left ear? Brick  The Bite of '87  10:40, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Defined ear pink for both of his ears, which may of caused some of the shading to appear more pale. -- 22:45, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Might just be my screen but his stripes are looking a little green. --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 14:34, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think they look green, Eos. 17:44, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

I know it is my character art, but I don't think they look green, although if other people touch up on that I'll change it. 19:15, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

They actually do look a bit green to me. Maybe it's a highlight or something like that and it decided not to function properly.

Re-uploaded I've darkened the stripes and removed the highlight completely, but I can still see green, does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix that? 22:24, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Applefur (NP) (Star) ~ For Approval
*flips table* She had absolutely no permission to die. <span style="">21:36 Fri Oct 10

Define the shading a bit u did the babe more justice than i could ever do 21:37, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Pfft. <span style="">22:05 Fri Oct 10

Tangleburr (Ki) ~ For Approval
Smudged shading is fun ovo. Pulled colors and opacities from the Apprentice file. Comments? 23:39, October 10, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the ginger patches a tad? how do you wizards do smudged shading   Brick  10:20, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

They're brown, Brick. And define the tail shading? 11:37, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I'd rather not smudge them anymore than this, since her patches are fairly sharp on her other images. 17:33, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the shading, and maybe lighten it around the neck just a bit.

Tallpoppy (star) - For Approval
I hate this pattern... And I'd like somebody to tell me how to deal with this alignment thing, 'cause I don't know how EosOfTheDawn (talk) 15:53, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

Define the tail and facial shading. This is very good Eos =)  16:34, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

For the alignment all you do is  <span style="">4:59 PM, Sat Oct 11, 2014

Re-up Thanks both of you! Just looked through some of my first chararts. Argh. --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 19:31, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

I don't think there would be any shading in the (our right) ear, because of the light source you're using. Great job on those stripes! 17:42, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Storm (Ro) (Lo) ~ For Approval
this is so bad it's giving me nightmares. 16:07, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

She's more silver on her other images. Lighten her a bit; and define the shading on the four legs. 16:26, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Reups 16:53, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Grasspelt (Star) - For Approval
-sobs- More dying kittehs! 01:21, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and define it on the paws. 06:57, October 13, 2014 (UTC)