Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Whitewing-for approval


Well I said that I needed to start on something easier to start on, so I did Whitewing. Please critic [but not harshly!:)] Sandwich 989

I sorted the layout so this came under it's own section but the image is not showing up Sandy dstar12 20:00, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright Sandwich, no more .xcf for you! XD It makes the image into a white box. Use .png or.gif instead. -- Ms T C 20:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I know I know. XD When I was typing in png my dad told me to get off because I was in trouble, and I thought that it didn't save, but it did I guess. So what do you think? I started this because Lionheart was to hard for me. Sandwich 989

I need some help with pixel size on GIMP. Sandwich 989


 * Remember to click on the blank before using it, an I suggest just copying/pasting it, as I do it. Then use the darken tool to shade. I think you have a good second attempt, thouggh. You're just starting out. Plus, this can't be accepted until you get the correct blank size. -- Mallinois Herding Talk 12:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok ill try to find the correct size. Sandwich 989

Here's a blank for you, Sandwich. Color this one in, and you'll get the full size blank. -- Mallinois Herding Talk 01:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I hadn't edited this for a while (I have ALOT of Finals due soon!). But i managed to do this in my spare time. Sandwich 989  02:40, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I say there should be more shading. Many pictures now are bugging me with putting little shading on the backs. No one does it anymore....Look at some of the other accepted white cats for reference.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 03:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blended more, and you could probably use a little bit more of it too. The ears look too fluro, and there is something wrong with the eyes. -- Dawnfeather 05:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Shading! More is needed on the back (as Shimmer said), head, muzzle, front legs, tail (a little). Also, tone down the ear colour a little and try adding a blacka nd white pixel in the eyes to amke them look...alive. [Someone posted a good example of a close up of an eye on the 'Sandstorm-For Approval' section] Just because she is white doesn't mean the colour has to be flat - take a look at the approved white cats for examples. The shading will help Sandy Talk! 07:22, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Just to let everyone know I am doing this still im just trying to do it on photoshop.Sandwich 989 22:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok i uploaded a new one. Maybe the eye can have more realistic stuff but |_|. If anyone can help me on shading it will be appreciated.Sandwich 989 03:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Instead of smuding, either use the burn tool, or get a few different shades of darker colours, in order from the outside to the inside for whatever area you want the chading to take up, and then blur them (With the blur tool, not the smudge tool) together. If that made any sense! -- Dawnfeather 07:43, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Anyone using gimp: can you tell me the shading you use? like the percent thing, the color. All the things you use. Thanks. Sandwich 989 04:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't use GIMP, but I can recommend Pixlr. I just get a few darker colours and then blend them into the pelt gradually becoming lighter. Either that or use the burn/dodge tools -- Dawnfeather 04:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Is there anything else I can improve? Even thoguh its probably not the correct way, I myself really like the shading (Im not trying to be conceded or whatever its called)Sandwich 989 01:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

(conceited) I'm sorry to tell you this but this is highly unlikely to be approved in its current state as it just isn't up to the standard of teh other images we're currently approving. The shading is okay but it needs to be blended into the pelt to give more natural transitions between colours. The colour looks very flat currently. Also, the ear pink needs to be blended. Sandy Talk! 17:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I try to use the blend tool but its wierd and confusing to me. Once someone tells me how to blend on GIMP it will be awesome I promise!Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Just play with the blur tool, with different levels, until it looks right. That's what I do.-- Darkhallows Lair 08:21, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok I uploaded the new one. The chest shading I think looks good kind of, but something bugs me about the back shading, maybe you guuys can tell me?<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 21:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The outline is now blurred, and you can still see the smudge lines. I would suggestrestarting and copying the eye onto a new blank. Now I think of it, it should probably be long haired for whitewing, although that's just how I imagine her, because it is never really specified. That is your choice. You will need to re-do the the ear anyway, as it is an unnatural colour. It will need to be blurred eventually, but don't do it right away as it is easier to change when it isn't blurred. Then instead of the smudge tool, use the burn tool, and blur it into the rest of the pelt as you go, without blurring the outline. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 05:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Hazeltail (For Approval)


I noticed that Hazeltail didn't have any character art, and I love her to death, so I decided to color her! I did my best to try to make her gray markings look realistic. I used a tutorial and a few references to get her to look just right. I'm no expert, though, and any help you can give is greatly appreciated! Also, if something looks wrong, please tell me how to fix it. "It looks bad" doesn't tell me anything. --Goldencloud 00:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * EDIT1 After multiple attempts, I finally got the new version to upload. I separated the gray patches, and gave her white-tipped ears and tail. Also darkened shadows. --Goldencloud 00:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT2 I rounded out the splotches. --Goldencloud 02:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT3 I randomized the splotches just a little bit. I hope I didn't go overboard again. --Goldencloud 23:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT4 Added a bit of shading on the chest, hopefully it looks better now. Thanks everyone for the help! I appreciate it. --Goldencloud 02:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT5 Extended shading up her chest. Also blended shadow of the ear a bit. I hope that's what you meant, Bramble! --Goldencloud 21:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT6 Added shading to back of neck, extended front of neck shading back, and added shading on front leg. Also extended shading up along back of leg. --Goldencloud 19:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT7 Wow, this is a lot of edits! I added a wee bit of shading to the middle back, and more to the back of the neck. Just a little more on chest, also. I hope I nailed all of Dawnfeather's points of concern. --Goldencloud 22:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT8 Added a little more shading in spots. --Goldencloud 00:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT9 Put chest shading back. It ran away. D: Also added head shading and took some off of back of shoulder.  --Goldencloud 23:41, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the problem is that she needs separate patches like Brightheart's not one huge wavy patch. Try putting white in between them. -- Ms <font color="Lime" style="background:Silver">T C 01:13, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I did, and I do think it looks better now. --Goldencloud 00:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. The ear needs some gray or white on it, and there needs to be more shading aroung the outside. Maybe a highlight too? -- Dawnfeather 06:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I put white tips on her ears. I tried giving her highlights, but it was hard to see on top of her white fur. I didn't add shading around the outside because the light-source is coming from overhead, not from the "camera". --Goldencloud 00:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I think this looks awesome! Sandwich 989
 * Thank you! :D --Goldencloud 00:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

This is very pretty, Goldencloud. I think it might look better though with a patch of gray on the belly, to break up the white a little more in that section. And maybe shrink the ear pink so it doesn't take up the whole ear. Other than that this is beautiful. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Bramble! I had added a gray patch on her belly, but it looked odd there so I tried to expand the splotch on her back so there's less white space there. I also shrunk the ear pink a little bit. --Goldencloud 02:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the patches look unnatural, try making them more rounded, not all wavy and curvy and random. -- Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Silver">Herding Talk 22:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I rounded them off. --Goldencloud 02:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I like it, but, like everyone else said, the patches look wavy..--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 00:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I did round them off a bit, especially the one on her back. It does look a lot better now. --Goldencloud 02:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to be fussy, but now they look very round, and even. Make then shapes a bit more random. -- Dawnfeather 02:51, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. --Goldencloud 23:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks awesome, but it could use shading on the chest.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 15:04, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see what you were referring to now. I added a touch of shading on the chest. Thanks!--Goldencloud 04:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Warrior's right - shading is also needed on the back Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 15:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There shouldn't be shading on the back. The light is coming from over her head, not from the camera. --Goldencloud 04:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't look right having both the veritcal part of her chest and the vertical part of her neck without shading. Chose one to put shading on, but only for that small section. -- Dawnfeather 07:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm...okeetay. I think I understand what you're talking about. I added a bit of shading on her chest, is that what you were referring to? --Goldencloud 02:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

This is very lovely. If you could blend the ear pink a little more and add a touch more shading to the chest, above where there is already shading, this should be ready for approval. -- Bramble My Realm 17:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, Bramble. Your kind words mean a lot to me! I did extend the chest shading, and blended the shadow of the ear more. Is that what you were referring to when you said I should blend the ear pink? --Goldencloud 21:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Good job. Are there any other comments for improvement? -- Bramble My Realm 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

This looks great. Although the patches look wavy, they look good and the shading is good.<font color="Red" style="background:Black">Sandwich <font color="Purple" style="background:black">989

It still needs more shading on the chest and back.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 14:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to be argumentative, but how do you figure that there should be shading on the chest and back? The light source is coming from over her head, so shadows would not be cast on the back or that part of the chest. When light doesn't make shadows on what it directly hits. --Goldencloud 21:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with Warrior, there needs to be much more shading on the back and chest. Also add some to the head too, but not alot. Adding it to the back ear and the forehead should be fine.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 18:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No, there should not be. I'm really not trying to start an argument or be stubborn, I just want to explain why I'm not adding shading to these spots you say need shading. The light source in the picture is coming from above, therefore the shadows would be on the underside of everything. Shadows don't appear where light is hitting an object. --Goldencloud 21:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I agree with Goldencloud. The are many parts of the back and chest which are being hit with direct light, but i think that for that to be possible, there are actually a few places tha need shading.
 * Just behind the shoulder
 * a littlebit on the back of the head
 * just below the headd, across the body.
 * just below the shoulder, across the body.

These spots are in shadow because something sticks up just infront of them, or there is a part of the body that is wider than it, etc. If that made any sense. I think that the shading you do have needs to be blended into the pelt more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done! At least, I think I did what you were saying. I didn't really know what you meant when you said "across the body". Thank you! --Goldencloud 18:54, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I love her!!! How did you do the eye?!?! It's so realistic!!! -- MU MB LE 785  20:20, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you! *huggles* Doing the eye was pretty easy. Here's a close up of the pixels of the eye. The middle pixel is of course the base color of the eye. The farthest left pixel is a few shades lighter, and the pixels to the right and on the bottom are a darker shade. The white highlight is on top. I hope that helps! --Goldencloud 18:54, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Forgive me for making thiese disgustiong marks on your beautiful picture, but I thought it might help show you where the shading should go. I see that you have done some behind the head, but it could do with some more. The head is wider than the neck, so put some over the body there too. On the back, there is a bit of the shoulder that sticks out, so begind that needs some shading. Also, the shoulder, all the way across the body, is wider than the next bit of cat, so it too will be in a bit of shadow. However, I must agree that this is good, and it should be ready for approval once you have tried these things. In terms of the picture, just open up this one next to your un-spoilt Hazeltail, and refer to the red markings as you go. Hope I helped! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC


 * That's okay, I'm glad you did. Now I see what you were talking about. I hope I got everything okay. Thanks so much for all this help you're giving me. :) I'll have to use the same shading layer for all my future character arts so we don't have to go through all this again. --Goldencloud 22:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Dawnfeather, thats a really good way to show people where to make corrections! If it hasn't been done before, I think you couldve done something really helpful to show people where to make the corrections. You know what I mean?<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 01:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * choking up with emotion* Thanks, Sandwich! I feel touched. :S ;_;  :) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather  10:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)



I'm sorry, yet again, for mutilating your picture. The red areas are areas you missed, or that need to join shading on the front and back, in a way that makes them look as if they go around the wide points on the body. The blue areas are where you could possible put highlights. Does this help? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:22, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, don't worry about it. :D I added more shading to it, and I tried highlights, but they didn't show up against the white fur, and it made it look weird. I think I'll leave out the highlights for this one. And yes, that helps a lot! --Goldencloud 20:48, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Ahhh! The shading is gone from the chest! You still need a little bit on the head where I put that red mark. Also, with that shading behind the shoulder, a little bit sticks out upwards. Get rid of that and fix the other things and this should be good to go. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 05:51, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Noes! It must have run away! I captured it and put it back. I fixed everything you said, is it good now? --Goldencloud 23:41, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Well done! I really love this now. Good job. What do you other's think? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you sooooooooo much for all your help, Dawnfeather! *huggles* This would've been declined long ago if it weren't for you. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 01:39, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

This is kinda irrelevant, but i love your sig! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This looks really good now Goldencloud. Any more comments before approval? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 20:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfrost- For Approval
Well...Here is the first character art that I've made. What say you? Smokeberry 21:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It's really good for a first image! I just think there are 3 things you could improve on: 1.) Make the eye have a pupil. It looks kinda like it doesn't. 2.) Make the tabby making thinner, blend them a little more, and make them jagged Ys. Use Squirrelflight as an example. 3.) Make the shading a tad bit darker. Other than that, It looks awesome!

Thanks! I'll fix that right away. Smokeberry 21:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

The image has been changed...Is it better now? Smokeberry 21:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Smokeberry, you didn't read the notice:One image at a time, so you'll have to wait for Jayfeather and Cinderfur, who by the way don't have their blanks yet. On this one, the tabby markings are dots and lines. Try using the jagged lines like Lionblaze, Squirrelflight, Dustpelt, and Brownpaw, or use the wavy ones like Heathertail -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 00:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Mallinois is right Smokeberry. Also, the ear is way too pink - that would need to be sorted as well. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 08:33, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * A couple of things: There is no shading that I can see. It needs some. Look on the Approved images to see how to do that; The tabby markings need to look...realistic. Looks at some Approved tabbies for examples; Nothing's blended. Use smudge tool for that. --<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 01:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

To add to that, Hawkfrost also has a white underbelly. -- Bramble My Realm 17:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I have fixed it. In my opinion the color is too dark, but then he is evil. Anything else? Smokeberry 23:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I like it dark, because it fit's his personality. I think he still needs more shading though. -- Dawnfeather 11:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Just add more shading on the back and the chest, and perhaps on the curve of the leg. I really like this. -- Bramble My Realm 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I really like the tabby markings now and think it looks good. I have something to add though - on my computer it is showing up on a white background not transparent and there is a strange black line at the top; is this just me or does it need to be made transparent? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 16:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Add more shadong, and take away the triangle-ness of the tabby markings, plus the ear is a little dark and there's a black line at the top. Plus, get rid of the markings int he middle of the body. -- Mall inois Talk •  Contribs 20:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Lemme just remove the line, and this will be done. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 02:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

There. Approved. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 02:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

What the...? Can someone fix this line before it's posted? Thanks. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 02:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

GB, aer you listening? Quite a fwe of us think that there should be some more shading before it is approved. -- Dawnfeather 06:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Wait, GB. Several people still have comments for improvement, and after those have been made the image can be approved. Don't approve the image just because it looks finished to you. Smokeberry, this can definitely be approved soon, just add more shading on the places mentioned above and tweak the markings a little like Mallinois suggested. I can turn it transparent for you if need by after changes have been made. -- Bramble My Realm 13:52, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Very nice! But I think the ear needs to be blended a bit more.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="Black">Warrior♥ 14:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, I think the ear is a little too dark... you can hardly see it over the dark pelt colour. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 19:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

He looks awesome. ^-^ -- MU MB LE 785  22:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't know there was still criticism. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem, buddy. :) It was easily fixed. -- Bramble My Realm 23:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

GB, don't feel bad. As you said, everyone makes mistakes, and this one doesn't matter, as it was easily and effortlessy fixed. I do agree that this is SO CLOSE to being ready for approval though. :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 07:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? Smokeberry 00:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful. The ear pink still needs to be lighter, as I think it looks too red at the moment, and I think Sandy mentioned that, too. Other than that, this is extremely close to being ready for approval. -- Bramble My Realm 17:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Also there is some blurry grey stuff outside the outline on his chest. That needs to be fixed Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:10, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

His ear and the blurry spot has been finished. Anything else? Smokeberry 22:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that line's back. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 22:54, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Its PERFECT, I LOVE the tabby stripes! Keep it that way, the tabby stripes like on squirrelflight and other tabbies, are pretty ugly(sorry D:) Dictation 23:12, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Attacks multiple artwork. User may not continue editing Project Character Art until July 15th. Slash any content posted by this user until then. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:38, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Augh! Curse that line! I'll have to remove it. Anything else? Smokeberry 23:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This is looking really good now; once you've removed the line I think this will be ready for approval Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 17:59, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks amazing! If it were me, I would add some more tabby stripes, but it looks great even without them. --Goldencloud 22:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

The outlines blurred in several places. It is quite pretty otherwise.-- Darkhallows Lair 08:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The outline is a little blurred, and the marking on the tail could be toned down quite a bit... Otherwise, you have some great looking artwork. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 12:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Antpelt for Approval


I'm going to post my pending images here. For now, here's Antpelt. Do you think I should blend the highlights on the back more? -- MU MB LE 785  22:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes; blend the shading a lot more as well. Also shorten the neck shading so it doesn't stick out so much; that's what got you on Clovertail. Maybe you could add a pupil on the eye as well. Other than that, very nice colors and basic structure. Good job. -- Bramble My Realm 22:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I completely agree with all of the above. BLEND HEAPS! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I'll work on him. ;) And Bramble, there is a pupil. Look at the upper left area of the eye... -- MU MB LE 785  19:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I blended more and took away some of the throat-shading. Is he better? -- MU MB LE 785  19:57, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Take away the shading infront of the shoulder! Also, you still need to blend everything in a lot more for this to work. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:18, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

The eye color look black, too.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="MediumPurple">Warrior♥ 18:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, my mistake, I see it now. The shading still needs to be blended more, though, and I don't know if the shading under the neck should be taken away, I just think it should be shortened and a less sharply defined point. -- Bramble My Realm 02:35, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Just pointing out that one of the ears is completely black. - Sparrowwing  talk  12:09, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that's in his description actually SparrowWing. I may be wrong but I'm sure I remember that. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 12:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Woops. I thought that it was an accident. Sorry. - Sparrowwing  talk  18:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

It says that one of his ears are black in his description, and I'll work on him. --68.102.111.72 18:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I blended more and made the throat shading thinner, and less pointy. Is he better? -- MU MB LE 785  19:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

The ear has no pink.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="MediumPurple">Warrior♥ 19:47, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the ear pink needs adding, the eye colour is not really visible either. I also think he needs a little more shading on his chest fur. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 14:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm on it! -- MU MB LE 785  17:18, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Added ear pink and shading. -- MU MB LE 785  17:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Blend the ear pink some more, and... that neck shading is really bothering me. Try cutting it off right at the whiskers, if you know what that means. Just put the normal pelt color over the neck shading until you reach where it's under the whiskers and we'll see how that looks. -- Bramble My Realm 17:34, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try it. -- MU MB LE 785  19:19, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

UGH!!! It may be a little bit before i get his changes done because my computer messed him up after I accidently save him a a gif image... -- MU MB LE 785  19:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

ok, i fixed it. REUPLOADED. -- MU MB LE 785  23:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Much better. I really like it now. Any more comments before approval in 24 hours? -- Bramble My Realm 18:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

The back ear needs be lighter, even if it is supposed to be black. It just doesn't look right to me. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

The background is white.-- Darkhallows Lair 20:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll fix the ear, and can someone make the background transparent for me after I edit him please? I'm not exactly sure how to do it... -- MU MB LE 785  00:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

When you've fixed him just say and someone will make it transparent for you. I can do it, or any of the other senior warriors will be able to if they get here first! :) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:46, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

The ear still needs fixing. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Morningflower-For Approval



 * My second, tortie, and my first elder. The elder blanks show up black for me, can someone fix that? I fixed up this one, though. Tell me what you think of it. -- Mlns tlk • C 14:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but i think you might need a little more ginger fur. She looks too dark, and I think it's because of the black. But, otherwise, it's good. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  19:55, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, the separation between the white and the black on the neck looks unnatural. Play around with the shape a bit more, or extend the white up into the face and make those common white-face markings. Other than that, and what Mumble just said, this is really good. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploded and changed the neck black to white and ginger connection. Better? --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 21:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It is better. I think the ear pink, although it is the right colour is slightly too big for her ear, especially as the fur is black. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, though it may take a while to show up. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 19:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that you should extend the white on the neck up onto the face, the way the is common amoung cats. also, the ginger patch on the front shoulder is an awkard shape. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 01:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The white is extended to her face, but it may take a while to show up... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 14:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Instead of making an upward arch with the white into the face area, level with the eye, drop in down a bit and make it arch the other way. Also, extend the white that is on the face in a tendril up the nose. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Shrewpaw(SC) - For Approval


I decided to colour the other Shrewpaw!! Comments? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 12:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, hang on. The shading is very blotchy - I'm gonna do that now. Oops Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 12:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, done. Comments now? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 12:46, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know... I think some of the shading is still rather blotchy. Maybe you could try blending it more? -- Bramble My Realm 17:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Bramble. The shading still looks blotchy.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="MediumPurple">Warrior♥ 18:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I can't tell whether it has black paws or not- perhaps you could lighten up the gray. Oh, and maybe use a slightly bright pink for the ear. -user: Firebird2102

The background also needs to be transparent :) -- Bramble My Realm 13:46, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I lightened the colour, redid the shading completely and the background should be showing up transparent Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

The gray part is much better. - user: Firebird2102

Any other comments? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

(Also - Firebird, please sign with four ~s, thank you) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:03, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

To be picky, blend the shading and the highlight ending more thoroughly, and blend the black fur with the gray fur some more. Then I think it'd be ready. -- Bramble My Realm 18:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded: Okay, I blended the highlight and shading area and also the blakc markings as much as I could without smudging the outline or making the transition too gradual (ie. making it a gradient grey...) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Very pretty. :) Anything else before approval, members? -- Bramble My Realm 18:33, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not so sure. Where is the light coming from, Sandy? Depending on that, there are a few changes that neeed to be made... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather

The light source is from the top left Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Ther is no shading behind/under the back leg, and there is shading on the back. the forelegs look a little bit weird in their shading too. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I reduced the shading behind the highlight right down and added shading on the hindleg area. I have no idea what to do with the forelegs though... Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it looks better, but it still needs a bit darker shading on her (excuse my immaturity) butt. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: any better now? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 09:16, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes this is very good now except maybe swap around the positions of the pixels in the ey a bit. If just swapping the white and black doesn't work well, fiddle around a bit. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I changed around the eye. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 12:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Blossomkit (SC)- For Approval
I hope this isn't too much. I have tons of files sitting in my computer and I want to do some new ones already xD. I don't really like doing kits, as I can never get the shading right. But I think she needed her own picture... poor kit.-- Darkhallows Lair 01:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

This is great! But shes a tortoiseshell....<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 02:09, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

This is Blossomkit of ShadowClan, who's featured in Cats of the Clans. She's a white she-kit. You're probably thinking of Graystripe's daughter, Sandwich. On the image, it's very pretty, but I think all the shading is too focused on the bottom, and maybe you could add some more on the head/shoulder area and lessen the rest. -- Bramble My Realm 02:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh sorry! my bad. This is very pretty, sorry for the mixup!<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 03:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It's alright. I actually remember her most for the 'her pelt was as red as deathberries' line. I intensified the head shading, but I'm not sure if it's enough...?-- Darkhallows Lair 04:24, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not often I find myself saying this, but I think there is a little too much shading on the legs. Try just putting shading down one side of her legs as if the light source is coming from a particular direction. Also, the background is green...on my computer at least. (I seriously don't know what is wrong with my cp... I'm fairly sure you would not have painted it green lol - just make sure it's transparent ;]) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:33, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It needs head shading, and the eyes look...weird to me.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="MediumPurple">Warrior♥ 16:03, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Played with the shading--4.185.210.69 22:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I take it that was Darkhallows... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 00:25, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah.. I'm on my other computer. Sorry.-- Darkhallows Lair 00:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the problem with the eyes is that they're too bright. Darken them a little bit, and maybe decrease the saturation a bit, too. It looks good otherwise! --Goldencloud 22:05, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Darkened them; are they better? Darkhallows Lair 07:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, they are much better now. --Goldencloud 15:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I know she's a white cat, but it seems to me that there isn't enough shading. I figure that the light is coming from one side, which is why there is no shading there, but i think the you need to extend the shading on the other side a little bit more, and then maybe darken it at the very edge. I can sympathise with you though. White cats are hard to make. Overall, good work! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 07:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and 'bout the death berries, it was her... *gulps* blood. Misty <font color="Pink" style="background:Gray">stream 16:33, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

This looks great. It just needs more shading on the head, and use shading to create a chin on the image like the approved kits. -<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 13:56, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Added a lot more shading. Gah, I should forget about doing kits.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

lol. It may seem hard at first but I actually find kits the easiest after a bit of practice. This is starting to look really nice. I think you need to add a tiny bit of shading on the top of her head though. (perhaps on teh right to fit in with the other shading) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 20:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Good job! I aagree with Sandy, just put in a little on the right of the head, and this should be ready. White cats and kits are both very hard, and you've got one that is both and it looks beautiful! :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Not all white cats are hard- Whitetail wasn't. I added more head shading.-- Darkhallows Lair 08:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

This is (in my opinion) ready for approval. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:35, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

This is almost ready - I just think her left ear needs to be shaded too because it looks odd that the light seems to be shining just on her ear and shadowy on the rest of that side. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:49, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Ear shading added.

It's either not showing up or it needs more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Mousefur elder -for approval
I'm not that good at art, but then I tried Pixlr and I think I did a good job. Please give me any little detail I can improve! Minnowclaw 23:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Needs a lot more shading and blending.--<font face="Papyrus" size="2" color="MediumPurple">Warrior♥ 00:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

upoload 2: Better? upload3:Now what do you think, don't hold backk! Minnowclaw 14:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

sorry, but not really. You needs heaps more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

You need to put shading on the chest, muzzle, tail, back, legs and head. It needs to be blended well into the pelt without blurring the lineart. Good luck Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 09:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get on it as soon as I can.216.217.47.66 14:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Pretty good! I was hoping to make a charrie art for Mousefur, but you beat me to it. :/ But isn't she a tabby? Smokeberry 23:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

No, she is just a "dusky-brown she-cat" and the picture approved isn't a tabby. Please! It can't be perfect, what can I improve on?Minnowclaw 23:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Hmmm, add shading on the curve of her hind leg, her forehead, and her foreleg. Also blur the shading you have, especially on the belly area. The ear pink needs to be more pink, as it looks violet to me at the moment. And, as Sandy said, take care not to blend the lineart. Other than those things, this is a great first image. :) -- Bramble My Realm 02:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Scorchpaw - Approved


I have a bit of a theme going here, in case you haven't yet noticed. I literally knocked this one together in about 5 minutes. What do you think? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:13, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

On the far view hind leg, it looks too black, which I think looks odd. Maybe you could lighten the shading there, and other than that I like the image. Anyone else? -- Bramble My Realm 18:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I lightened that, and a few other areas. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Come on people! I'm feeling lonely here!... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:21, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I changed it again to make it less dark.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather

Trying... to not die... of... boredom... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 03:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Dawn! I still think it's too black around the hind leg and lower tail Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 14:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

It's a lot lighter now. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Anything else? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:43, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

see above post about dying and boredom. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:04, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Very very pretty. :) Don't see anything else wrong, really, it looks better without the dark splotches. Does anyone else hav comments? (oh and Dawn, sorry you almost died of boredom ;))-- Bramble My Realm 15:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, i'm on the other side of the world to the rest of you, i a completely different time zone. And homework is boring. I'm in the other hemisphere as well. While you're all on Sumer holidays I'm going to make a 'Southern Hemisphere Awareness Month.' lol --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:12, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

No comments; this is ready for approval Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 20:00, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Approved. -- Bramble My Realm 12:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Darkhallows - Senior Warrior?
Please go here to support Darkhallows becoming a senior warrior. Darkhallows, just to make it official, do you accept the nomination? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Of course I accept. ^^ -- Darkhallows Lair 01:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Please Read
Please use on users who post content while being on this list. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:47, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Icepaw - For Approval
What do you think? Minnowclaw 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Add more extended shading on the spots you have already shaded, as well as adding shading on the forelegs. Blend thoroughly, and add ear pink. -- Bramble My Realm 02:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Lots better than the one I had a go at last night. White cats can't be done the way i'm doing mine, at least in the apprentice blanks. I like it, but i think that you should add some more shading. Brilliant! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 05:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

She needs a lot more shading and the ear pink needs to be addes. Please make sure all this is fully blended :) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

A Guide to Shading?
This idea may suck. But it seems like a lot of new people on PCA are asking how to shade. I was thinking that maybe we could make some sort of page with tutorials on different styles and where to put shading (I'm sure everyone has issues with this sometimes). Again, I don't know how well this would work. -- Darkhallows Lair 04:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. There are lots of different ways to shade cats, and different ways to make tabby markings, markings in general, ears, and even eyes. New ways are being thought of all the time too. For example - my apprentices. We haven't even really figured out how to shade the elders yet, as only one has been approved so far (to my knowledge). I just don't think it would work. Everyone learns in time. I've only been here two months and a few people are applauding my efforts. I'm not exactly against the idea, it's just i'm not sure how it would work. Has anyone got any thoughts or suggestions? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 05:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Two elders :P. Yeah, I don't know if it COULD work. But then, like I said, there could be guides on different styles? Or each player could have their own section if they wanted. -- Darkhallows Lair 05:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I was actually thinking of Shadepelt! Never occured to me that I had made an approved colouring of an elder. Ah well. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree, alot of newbies would appreciate the help from shading, i know I would XD><font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 14:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think there should be a "Charart Mentors" program, and the senior warriors+Bramble could mentor an unexperienced user in Charart. That way, we don't have to set guidelines like Project Adopt a User. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 19:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I like that idea. Im an unexperienced charart user that can use help.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I like that idea too. I wouldn't mind being a mentor, in say, a month, even though i'm not aa experienced as you senior warriors. I know quite a few shading techniques. Maybe we should let the leader (Bramble, you rock!) choose who the mentors could be, because even with our large amount of senior warriors, we wouldn't have enough to mentor every new comer, even the people who are struggling now. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I would love a mentor... - Sparrowwing  talk  11:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the mentor idea too. I think that might work.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:39, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

New opinion... How about creating something like Project Adopt a User? (Project Teach A User To Make Character Art or Project Adopt a User for Character Art?) Even better, work on reopening Project Adopt A User. -[[User:SparrowWing| S p a rr o w 23:18, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Silverstream-For approval



 * I lways though her story was tragic, so I mde her. She's my first textured cat. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 12:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I can see what you're trying to do here, but to achieve it, you need a bit darker shaind on the front, and the back has to bit a bit lighter. Also, try and bring the highlight down onto the shoulder and hind leg a bit more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, the ear colour is unnatural, the eye could be a bit lighter, and the tabby stripes are few and blended into the pelt too much. Sorry that i'm being so harsh! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought Silverstream was... silver? <font color="White" style="background:Blue">India, <font color="Green" style="background:Orange">Here I Come! 19:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, and haven't Silver tabbies got darkish stripes? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripe on her flank near the base of her tail is at a strange angle... Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 13:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded with new markings and more highlight, yet the changes don't show... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 13:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a smudgy blur outside the lineart on the tail Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 16:04, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixed. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 17:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Silver tabbies usually have a silver body with dark stripes. But I do really love the texture. Nice job Mal.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Rushtail - For Approval


My first elder and my first attempt at using the new blanks. Please comment. I know it has flaws. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 14:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

This looks alright to me! I just suggest that you make the shading darker and thicker, and blend it out a bit more. --Goldencloud 00:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't like the highlights, and the shading thins out on it's backside. Overall though, good job. I like the colour choice! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Updated: I'm not sure I like this better but I updated taking all your changes into account. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Molepaw - For Approval


I decided to colour Sorreltail's lost kit as I felt bad that he was rarely mentioned in the books. Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 14:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

wow.

The only fault I can find is taht the ear colour could be a bit better... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Better in which way Dawn? And thank you :) Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. I don't remember. :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay then, anything else I can improve? Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 07:20, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Needs some shading at the base of the tail still. Other than that, this is ready for approval. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I added shading and also changed his eye to match Shrewpaw's Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 12:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Pebblepaw - For approval


I tried to make him mottled, and as the eye colour was not specified, I though that blue would suit his name. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:00, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * He looks a little... bumpy. I see what you are trying to do, but maybe blend him a little bit?-- Darkhallows Lair 08:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? My attempts to make him look mottled make him look bumpy. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I like him. He doesn't really look bumpy anymore, at least. Comments before approval(24 hours)? -- Bramble My Realm 12:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Tawnyfur - for approval
Something I threw together in 5 minutes. -shurg- I was bored.-- Darkhallows Lair 08:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I like this, but for some reason i think there is something wrong with it which i cannot put my finger on. Good work! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I like it, but I think the line of transition between light and dark is to hard and needs to be more gradual Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:32, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Any better now?-- Darkhallows Lair 02:08, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes. This too, needs approvaling i think. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bramble My Realm 12:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Birchfall- For Approval


Okay, I'm really nervous about putting up art. You guys are a little intimidating. Here's my Birchfall. The changes are taking some time to come up, so the version you see might not be the most recent.

Dawnfeather, being my unofficial mentor, talked to me about it already. Hope this looks good to you! - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

More shading, and it might help to make it a little more brown.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 16:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree. He looks like for of an olive green color than brown. Also it doesn't look like he has any eye color. I like this, though! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:12, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey Sparrow, welcome to project charart! There's no need to be intimidated; the point of this is to make art, give advise to other users on how to improve their art and to have fun whilst adding to the character pages :) I personally agree with the comments Sandwich and Goldencloud have made and would like to add that blending the ear pink and shading into the pelt more will give it a more realistic look. It might help to remove the tabby markings whilst you get the shading and colour right, then add them on again - that's how I always attempt tabbies. Good luck :) [ps. please sign with 4 ~s] Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Colored eye, fixed shading. - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

Cherrytail - for approval


I just noticed that every charart I've done so far is a "tail". lol I didn't even realize that. Anyways! I wanted to try doing a tortoiseshell, I tried to make it look realistic. I haven't tried texture...ing any of these yet, but I've drawn cats before and tried to use that style as best I could. I was surprised no one had done Cherrytail yet, she's the best SkyClan cat in my opinion. I used the same shading layer I used for Hazeltail, so hopefully there won't be as many problems with that. This one has highlights, which I'm unsure about. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow. I adore this. Really great job! -- Darkhallows Lair 18:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

This really is beautiful. I take it back; you've just topped the best tortie so far (Sorry Mal!) I can see no problems... Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 19:58, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried doing this on Sunpaw, but my pc messed it up. How do you do it? Great! --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 22:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

woa...

--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow. This really is beautiful, Goldencloud and I do like it... but it looks different from all the rest of our approved images. With the added texture, it's a different style then all the others and it's set apart. I'm really trying to say this in a polite way... I don't know, this is just my opinion, that the style is too different. If others' opinions override mine then we can accept it. -- Bramble My Realm 12:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, i have to agree with Bramble. Please take no offense as this is seriously the best image i have ever seen. It just isn't in the same style, and many of the approved images couldn't be done in this style even if we tried. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Foxpaw - For Approval


A few have already been posted since i came,, so I hope you like this one. :) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather  00:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading on his leg looks pink...-- Darkhallows Lair 02:20, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I made it more of the other color. What else can i do? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Boulder - For Approval
Here is our first attempt at a character image. Critisism welcome! We think the shading turned out pretty good. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 01:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)



It's pretty good for a first image. However it needs more shading, and then the shading needs to be blended in.-- Darkhallows Lair 02:16, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, we fixed the shading (we think), though we're still having trouble blurring it. Any suggestions? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 03:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Use the tool that looks like a teardrop. If you do not have this tool, go to www.pixlr.com --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Owlpaw - For Approval


Ther is only one excuse for no noticing my current theme - living undr a rock. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:36, 8 June 2009 (UTC)