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Wind (Q) ~ For Approval
Finally snagged a queen :P Comments? 19:27, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the ear-pink a little bit Leaf-storm,19:28,October 15,2011 (UTC)

I'll wait for a second opinion on that, since I used the ear pink color from her images. 19:31, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well, at least lighting the shading on the belly. Darkfangstorm Vampire time!   Might bite underneath the moonlight  19:34, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the earpink, and blur the shading some more. 19:38, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tail shading a little. 23:11, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten all the shading. Add depth to the eye. 23:12, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

There is a lighter color pixel on the left front paw, blur the shading.  Owl   X    G    l    itt    er   4LIFE..    The colors of fall 23:35, October 15, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded  12:10, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Wind's eyes in her leader charart have a ring of orange in them, which I think makes her stand out in an interesting way. I think you should try to match that. 17:04, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''You'll have to zoom in to see it. 20:31, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

The orange was on the outer part, and it was a bold orange... sorry, poking at it. 01:39, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Blur the ear-pink a tad. 19:24, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes aren't showing yet 20:35, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 20:35, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Why should I blur it more? I think it seems fine. 20:38, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

No, you will blur the shading more if a more experienced member tells you to. I agree. It needs to have a nice, smooth transition between the lighting planes and blurring it makes this transition looks natural. I know that you're liscensed to have your artistic creativity, but as another fellow artist, I can see that it needs blurred. 21:07, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Even though it seems I didn't blur it, I did. 23:03, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the nose. Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 20:14, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Should I make it more to the color of her ears or just darken it in general? 20:16, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's supposed to be the same as the ear pink.<font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 20:17, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes are showing. 21:14, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Making a small bump. 20:05, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

The nose is supposed to be the same as the ear-pink, as long as it's not a black cat or anything, which this clearly isn't. Any way, blur and lighten the shading right next to the front arm closes to use. Darkfangstorm Vampire time! [ 20:09, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading along her back. 20:45, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink and nose color are the same Dark. I took the color from the middle of her ear. And I'll get to it Speckle. 20:55, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ok the changes aren't showing. Shading the back is tough D: 21:19, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights to the tail and blur the shading. 22:31, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Highlights aren't needed. Make the pupil skinner. 00:13, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be some white in the eye as well? 16:29, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I'll work on this soon. And there is Shadewing. 20:04, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like there is a black square in her eye........Otherwise nice job! <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">Star <font color="White" face="Julee" style="background:Black">shine <font color="Silver">☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 23:27, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Okay the shading looks too dark so that parts of the pelt looks brown. Also blur and smudge the ear pink. 00:17, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear oink and define the shading on the tail. 01:11, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded The shading on this is making me angry ._. I'll live x3. 12:46, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more and this will be ready. 22:16, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Safe to say I'm satisfied with the shading for once ^^. 23:01, October 24, 2011 (UTC)

The eye away from us needs a white dot or summin. Otherwise I think it looks good. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 00:48, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 10:32, October 25, 2011 (UTC)'''

Blur the ear-pink. 13:48, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  20:51, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading. <span style="">00:26 Wed Oct 26

Reuploaded -- 11:26, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading. Darkfangstorm Vampire time!  18:48, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot what defien means x_x Sorry for the blonde moment. 20:25, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading easier to see. =) 20:45, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  11:00, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the stomach near the front foot needs to be lightened please. :3 . 22:05, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back and face. 10:56, October 28, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded Blurred it, but it doens't look like it D: -- 12:02, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

It may be me, but I am kind of confused with your light source. You have the lighter shading on this side of the head <--- but on the body, you seem to have the light source coming from directly in front. O.o 22:20, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make it a bit larger. 01:53, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did as you said Squirrel. I'm used to shading that way, and I used one of the shading styles to shade it. 19:11, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the shading on the belly some more? 00:16, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I made it worse ._. 11:12, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Just blur it some more..

However, it looks odd to me because the light source seems to be coming at two angles. I'd say that you should move the light source on the head to our right a little. Someone can correct me if they think it looks fine. 22:20, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

No, i'm with you atelda, it does look odd. Rain face &lt;3 01:05, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

Correct Atelda. Also lighten the shading on the belly and make it somewhat smaller. Great job! 02:05, November 2, 2011 (UTC)

You don't need to say she's correct again. Rainface already did, it's unnessesary. Blur the belly shading some more. -- 20:29, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Back now, and did everything else asked :3  12:21, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and brighten it. <span style="">19:54 Sat Nov 5

Also darken the shading and smudge the ear pink alot. !!!!

Reuploaded  13:05, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the face needs to be lightened. 20:21, November 7, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Actually I belive that all of the shading needs to be lightened. Very nice! 01:56, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blend the shading a little better. Argh, this must be an awkward color to work with... 02:11, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Leafstar (Alt. Q) ~ For Approval
*shivers in disgust* This is disgusting :S she looks like a chipmunk with a nut in its mouth :| my least fave charart i've ever made. 15:21, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes match the ones like in my image. 15:23, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

The brown patch on the far side of her face needs to extend all the way to the end. Make the stripes on her face go up and down and define them. You smudged the lineart on top of where her arms are. Add more stripes to her patches. 15:24, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

OK how do I make the stripes match teh other image and where is the smudged lineart. Would you mind showing me I don't see it. Also I'm trying to match them so the only place I see that needs more stripes is teh haunch. And seriously does she not look like a chipmunk with a nut in her mouth? LOL REUPLOADED 15:31, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 15:36, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED hehehe this is so creepy... 15:43, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on the haunch more. Darkfangstorm Vampire time!  18:56, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the patches and make the stripes match on all of the patches. 20:25, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Seperate the patches on her back. Look at her background picture on The Rescue and you can see they are seperated, plus if you have the book she's seen laying down frequently, so you can use that for help as well. The patches on her face wouldn't come down so far. Again, looking at how she looks in the manga should help, if you don't have it look at Harper Collins Browse Inside, it's free and I believe the first page she is on she is shown laying down. 23:07, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

I like this MUCH better now. REUPLOADED. She's growing on me :) 11:36, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes still look a little off. If you need help, ask Stoneclaw. She may be able to give you advice on how to make the stripes like hers. 14:37, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

I think you might have smudged/blurred the nose because it looks huge xD 15:30, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

The whole face lineart looks funny. Could you paste a new lineart over it? I could do it if you need help. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  18:42, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 21:05, October 27, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Could you help me Paleh? 11:18, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the patch on the belly/chest area too. 21:32, October 28, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded - Kay, fixed all the lineart. :) Had to redo the eyes, but I tried not to touch anything else. If you need help with anything else, fell free to ask. ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  22:18, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Try to fix the stripes.. They look irreuglar, since they are a bit too thick. Try to match the ones on Stoneclaws image ^-^

Gh ou  lp  eb  bl  e! '''Trick? Or Treat?'''  01:43, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the back paw and darken the shading a touch. 02:29, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading specifically on the cream and blur the tail stripes. 20:16, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear pink, add either a highlight or shading on the haunch, and blur the place where brown meets crem on the back left leg. 23:52, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular as well. 10:34, October 31, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Darken the overall shading and define the highlights if there are any. DJCandyBud 03:55, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED O_O moooo 13:08, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to match her alt leader more 00:53, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well, um. If I did it wouldn't match, er the manga. And that SERIOUSLY bothers me...if I have people seconding this I guess i'll hafta live with it but can you explain how to make them match cuz I had trouble before and that's why I switched them to match the manga in the first place. 11:13, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

They need to match Stoneclaw's version, not the manga. We're not allowed to copy the exact pelt style of a character from the Warriors books because those images are copyrighted. If you're that confused, then ask Stoneclaw for help, as she's the one who made the leader image. The two cannot be different. 18:16, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

LOL I was just about to reupload it XD anyways REUPLOADED  18:29, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken and smoothen the stripes. 20:26, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular, more pink, and blur it. 20:54, November 3, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

The earpink is triangular, and I will not make it more pink because I copied it from the leader alt. And if I blur it any more than it is it'll blur the lineart. I'll do the stripes later. 11:29, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes match the ones on my image, and the earpink is not the same. 17:54, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe working from the comic instead of the alt leader image would help? Just a suggestion That way you could see her stripe pattern from different angles. 18:51, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and I also agree with Shellheart. 22:49, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly, she can't use the one from the "manga", because the stripes aren't the same. We're not supposed to match the designs 100%, because those images are copyrighted from HarperCollins. It also says that in the guidelines. 02:59, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I meant she could use it as a reference, Cloudy. >.> I know the copyright laws, and you know I do. But we agreed to try to match the images the alts come from as closely as possible, didn't we? I thought it may be helpful for her if she saw the stripes on Leafstar in the "manga" from multiple angles, as that helps me when I'm trying to draw things. But if that won't match the alt leader, then you're right. 15:23, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the tabby stripes still look odd. Maybe do something about that. If someone disagrees with me, then forget this post Rain  face &lt;3 20:19, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Agreeed, Rainface. They just don't... match? They look off. By whatever method you use, make them match the image (the manga, the other approved pixel, doesn't matter a whit to me) and it'll look a lot better. <span style="">20:31 Mon Nov 7

Ok can someone help me? I've been trying to fix these stripes and they are driving me CRAZY!!! So yeah...oh and I never work on it for the weekends-Monday because I have stuff...thanks :) 12:02, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Talon Alt. (CG) ~ For Approval
Well, he was described like this in Cats of the Clans, so here he is.. I am strangely attracted to alternates.. ._. Fail tabby/Cave Guard xD  Gh  ou  lp  eb  bl  e! '''Trick? Or Treat?'''  02:33, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps thicken the tabby markings (optional) and I'd smudge the mud in all directions. Also, blur where the white meets with the light brown and perhaps make it whiter... Awesome! 02:39, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Does he have a white chest? Cause this seems to be going off into his shoulder. xD (Correct me if wrong. )<font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="blue" >Sky- VoldemortxMcGonagall <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="cyan"> ftw! 02:42, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Made the heading say 'for approval'. Blur the lighter chest a little more, and there is a bunch of waste between the two front paws. Good job! 15:41, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

There's actually a lot of waste all over the image. 18:52, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yeah, I was doing this really quickly, so that's why its all messed up. xD Hopefully I got rid of all the waste, made the chest more white (shading caused it to go tannish xD), blurred the mud and the whites going off his shoulder?? Shoot.. Dx Oh, and changes are not showing...  Gh  ou  lp  eb  bl  e! '''Trick? Or Treat?'''  19:32, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... he has a white chest. Your white only covers less than half of his chest. Look at a leader image with a white chest or something. It goes down to the middle of where their front legs meet. 19:35, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the muzzle counts as the chest, correct me if I'm wrong, because it's white too. 23:57, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

In Cats of the Clan, he is shown with a white muzzle. I added it to his trivia on his page btw. ;) 00:06, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There, is that any good? :3  Gh  ou  lp  eb  bl  e! '''Trick? Or Treat?'''  00:13, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks Atelda! And smudge/blur the mud a bit more. 00:37, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading just a tiny bit, and do as Sweetflower suggested. This is neat! 00:53, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened and blurred the mud. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   01:16, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink a tad. I can barley see it. 16:29, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the white and blur it. <span style="">20:06 Sat Nov 5

Reuploaded Brightened the earpink and fixed the chest. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   22:49, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

I still think the white on the chest needs to be extanded and slightly darken the shading if you will. 22:56, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Also lighten the white a lot and smudge the mud. <span style="">23:01 Sat Nov 5

Try and match the picture in CotC better, make the stripes fainter on the back, add a dark tail tip, and add a white part around his eyes. Here's a ref if you don't already have one. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  00:50, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened/extended the white a bit more, smudged the mud, darkened the shading a tad, added the white part around the eyes and made it look a bit more like the picture in CotC. And thanks for the image, Paleclaw, I had to keep on looking in the book since I couldn't find one online x3 M is    t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   13:45, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is great! Smudge the white chest a bit, it'll look more coolio. -- 15:28, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Smudged the chest a bit. :3 M is    t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   15:48, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge and blur the white, mainly on the face, smudge the mud more, and define the shading, especially on the white parts. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  18:31, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Smudged and blurred the white (had to fix it a bit, since it looked a bit weird when I tried to smudge/blur it Dx), smudged the mud and defined the shading on the white. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   21:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Try to connect the white parts together. Very nice! 23:38, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

They're not connected in the picture, Sandstorm. Can you blur the white a little more? 23:45, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Blur/smudged the mud more. This looks pretty good to me though. Rain face &lt;3 20:22, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred and smudged the mud, and blurred the white. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   20:53, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Whiten the white more and blur the left side of it. Darken the shading. <span style="">20:59 Mon Nov 7

Reuploaded Whitened the white more and blurred the left side of it and darkened the shading. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   22:17, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading specifically on the white :3 -- 00:12, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and less trianglely 01:59, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the shading and fixed the earpink. M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   03:29, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Sharpclaw (Alt.D) ~ For Approval
Okay, this is based on his image in Cats of the Clans. I knew this cat was him and not Leafstar as the other cat image that could have been him (the cat on the top) matched the image of Leafstar on the cover of SkyClan's Destiny. I tried to match the image the best I could, which wasn't easy considering the fact that all I had to work with was a disembodied head and chest. XD Comments? 19:47, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

...this isn't even fair. How can you make such an amazing charart? Erase the stray pixel above his ear and define the earpink a tad. I adore this. <span style="">20:05 Sat Nov 5


 * O *hugs* It is mine now. >.< Its awesome! Lighten the shading a bit. ;3 M is    t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   22:47, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly, you can't have three images up at once. You'll need to either withdraw one of your tweaks or withdraw this. Sorry. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:55, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, it's all good. I withdraw Whitestorm. 00:34, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Kay. :) Could you add/define the earpink a ton, I can't tell if it's there or not. Though it might just be my computer, the colors are kinda acting funky on it today. :P ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  00:36, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Yeah, I tried. I used the colors from the image, but I think I've defined it a bit. I don't want to deviate too much. 00:49, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Why? My Sunfish charart buddy does so much better with charart's then me :( Any way, the stray pixel is still there. Rain  face &lt;3 01:03, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Rainy, you're fine. You'll get it with practice. 01:13, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think should be made using the warrior lineart. If you didn't notice, the name in the book said Leafdapple and note Leafstar. Sharpclaw couldn't be deputy if Leafstar still went by the name Leafdapple. 02:56, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Aww, do I have to? I used the deputy lineart because I was looking at the image from the Warrior's App, which called her Leafstar. TT.TT 03:03, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I was going straight from the book. Since you mentioned it was in the Warriors app, I think it could be made for BOTH ranks... 03:05, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I was about to mention that, actually. Yeah, I agree. 03:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

In the meantime, dull the ear pink a bit. It's too bright. 03:08, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Dulled it up. Please, no more ear-pink comments. This is the first time in a while that I've been happy with it. 03:18, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is 100% epicness. It looks like one of the neck stripes is going into the white chest. Can you fix that? If you know what I'm talking about. -- 15:09, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like that in the image this is based on, so I think I'll keep it. Thanks, though! 15:20, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

This looks an awful lot like Brackenfur's :3 NAH, I kid, this is amazing. Lighten the highlight on his shoulder. 02:53, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 17:33, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

This is absolutely beautiful. Just blur the two stripes by the eye a tiny bit. 20:26, November 7, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I'd rather not, as doing so would make it look less like the image it's based on. 21:08, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Also darken the stripes a tad and make the ear pink smaller and redder. This looks lovely! 02:25, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes match the image this is based on (how many times do I have to say that!?) and the ear-pink is fine. I asked above that nothign else be said on the ear-pink, this is the happiest I've been with any ear-pink in a while. 02:28, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Stonefur (Alt.D) ~ For Approval
I really hate the shading and the ear pink. >_< Comments? 20:33, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the ear pink tons. Make the ear pink smaller and center it as well. 20:38, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I knew that would happen. But I still dont like it and I blured over it a bunch... 22:12, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink color less neon/bright. Dull it. 22:32, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tryed to dullen it but I ended up darkening it....I had now idea how do dull it to be truthful... 22:44, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Give the eye some depth, not just one flat color. Blur the shading more, add some between the foreleg and haunch, and have less on the tail. 22:46, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 22:57, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I thought the shading was funny. And I did my best with the depth. Looks better now! 23:02, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink. <span style="">23:03 Sat Nov 5

Blur the shading a lot and thicken it. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  23:42, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs major blurring, fix that. 00:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the heading for you. Anyway, redo the shading so it conforms to the contours of his body and add depth to his eye, maybe change the color to match that image, which is where the alt came from. You might want to tone down you highlights, too. 01:00, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re-did the hole thing and I added the depth as much as I could. Comments? 01:43, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Shading still needs to be blurred a lot. 03:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured and blured but it doesn't look to different. Sorry you guys... 03:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I believe this needs to be renamed Stonefur.deputy.alt.png 03:48, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Want a really useful tip for blurring the shading so it looks natural? Take your blur tool, set it on "60", then blur the edges of the shading with a small brush, then get a slightly larger brush, use the blur tool, set it on "100", then blur where you smudged. You may have to do it more than once, but once it looks natural, then you're good to go! 05:13, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the earpink, and make it more triangular. 13:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded @Twilightheart I tryed but it just ended up with spaces and @ Shadewing I don't really know how to dullen the ear pink but...well I tryed! 16:22, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can help you if you want. 16:27, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

What with, Stoneclaw? 18:38, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

You don't know how to dull earpink? You just.. darken it.. Perhaps smudge the shading and then blur the smudges a lot. I do that sometimes. -- 19:51, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the shading worse...if possible... 20:19, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Do you need help with the shading? -- 22:16, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes plesae... 23:39, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading for you and blurred the earpink. -- 00:00, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Awesome, Snowwy. ^^ 02:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Just blur the shading on his neck.

Reuploaded Thanks for the help Snow.. And I used Ivystripe's thing. THanks for the help everyone! -- 15:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. -- 00:11, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Reuploaded I also darken it a touch. 00:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Spiderstar (Lo) ~ For Approval
Special thanks to Oblivion for helping when I was completly desperate! Anyways, comments? 01:40, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

You need to blur the stripes xD I sent it to you just after I had finished in Paint so you could blur them yourself. 01:41, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Fixed the shading/highlights. Also blurred stripes. 01:56, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights go in the proper place, since it looks like a big blotch of light in the middle. Also tone down the earpink, its too bright/hot pinkish it. Love the stripes! M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   02:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

And fix the miscolored lineart. Also make the eyes look right. (see the apprentice tutorial for how they're supposed to look) ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  02:08, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

She can do the eyes any way she wants. It's how I did my eyes, and no one said anything about that. There's no specific guidelines for eyes. 02:10, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. 02:54, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

But highlights in other places and make the ear pink much smaller. Don't let it take up the whole ear. Also redden it or darken it. Thicken some stripes and lighten the tail. Great! 03:20, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the highlight a lot. It makes him look gray. 03:23, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/define the shading. As far as I can tell, I only see the highlights. Good job so far! 05:10, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty good for your first charart! Define the tail highlights. 15:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Specifically define the shading along the shoulder and thighs. 19:50, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm not sure what a lot of those words mean, but I did fix it. I ofund out we don't need highlights, so I took them out, making it look a lot better. I changed the ear-pink. Added shading. And fixed the stripes. Agh, I feel much better. (Thanks Snoweh!) 20:26, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit more as in darken the edges of the charart and as you move into the main body start lightening the shading if you have the light source right in front of the cat. Redden/darken the earpink via the paint brush/burn tool. And blur the stripes more. Nice! 20:30, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Tried my best! Thanks! (I thought I would suck at this, but I'm doing ok now) 20:57, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be the same colour as his leader's, but this is nice. :D <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="blue" >Sky- VoldemortxMcGonagall <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="cyan">ftw! 20:58, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

And how do I do that? Dx 21:43, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing and define/add shading. Also, to take the earpink off of the leader image, just copy the leader image into whatever program you use, then color pick. Easy. ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  22:34, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a huge amount and try adding highlights. Look at tutorials if you don't know how. 03:24, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

How do I lighten it? And the tutorial doesn't have a loner example. So I don't know where to put 'em. 11:56, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think on Night shine's and a few other's tutorials there is a section that shows where shading and highlights go on every rank. It's like a big chart or something. Hope that helps! 20:24, November 7, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

If you use layers you can lighten the base coat by just filling it with a different colour, but if you don't use layers you can use the dodge and colourize tools to lighten it (just be careful of the lineart). 21:09, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste near the tail, paws and head/neck areas-could you erase it? M is   t y pe bb le   ♪Goo d day♪ just go with |undefined the flow   23:13, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the ear pink. Do you need help? 02:00, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''RE-UPLOADED. '''Ok, I re-did the base coat, erased the waste. But I don't think I should redden the ear pink, because I got it from his leader image. Unfortunalty, I couldn't find a tutorial on where to put the highlights. (Because the video tutorials won't load) Besides I thought we didn't have to have highlights? Or am I mistaken? 12:14, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and make the earpink more triangular. I'm pretty sure highlights are optional, but we do have to have shading I think... 17:12, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Nightwing (Q)- For Approval
I'm starting to like black cats.... Anyway, comments? :3 00:58, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

'Dis is pretty! Blue the shading a little but more please. 11:59, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a tad. Nice! 12:06, November 7, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Make the ear pink larger. 12:07, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the base color just a tad. 15:41, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading a little. 00:10, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think there is a white pixl where the tail meets the back paw. Try to fik that. Very nice. 02:03, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Leopardfoot (Alt. W) ~ For Approval
I think it's genetically impossible to get mottled black cats, so I made her brown instead. Comments? 18:14, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, this is pretty! Blur the darker mottles right near the middle of the back. 20:22, November 7, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Well when you think about it a lot of the descriptions are really odd. Make this black, please, or don't do it at all. Sorry, that sounded kinda harsh :P but it really doesn't make sense to have a description and make a charart that completely contradicts that same description. <span style="">20:25 Mon Nov 7

Re-uploaded Don't worry, it's fine Wildheart. (Thank heavens for the desaturate tool XD) 20:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for not taking that the wrong way :3 Blur the earpink a tad and shrink it. This is lovely. <span style="">21:12 Mon Nov 7

Re-uploaded 21:44, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Right now she's spotted, and mottled means a combination of colors. I can only see two. You don't have to copy my Leopardstar image or Mudfur's, but you can use those as a general guide as to what mottled looks like. If anything, put spots of slightly lighter than her main pelt color. 23:55, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste around the chest area and redden the ear pink. Very nice! 02:06, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back a bit. 17:10, November 8, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Hawkfrost (Alt. W) ~ Declined
This is my first one. It is an alternate for when he was discibed as a dark brown tom in the allegiances of Midnight. I think it's ok. Any advice? 02:14, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

De-thumbed. Also, I thought we decided that he wouldn't get an alt for this? 02:18, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I seem to remember a thing on this. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Green" >Sky-Stupidly <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="pink">Spring...✿ 02:21, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it wasn't much a difference from his reagular imagde. So declined? 02:22, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, for now. But, if the others disagree, feel free to post your opinion. 02:24, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Leafstar (KP) ~ For Approval
I'm posting this on behalf of Thistleberry, who is having technical difficulties with the project pages. I personally thinks it looks excellent for a first charart! Comments? By the way, if Birdpaw gets a kittypet charart, logically Leafstar should as well. 02:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Just for clarification, this is for when Rock called her a kittypet. Shelly's right, since Birdpaw gets one, so does she. 02:28, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add more stripes to the upper ---> that side and the ears too. Redden the ear pink and add a stripe to the shoulder. Lighten the tail shading. Very nice! 02:38, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Couldn't it also count when she was taken by the Twoleg? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="Green" >Sky-Stupidly <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="pink"> Spring...✿ 02:39, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Good point. Also, Sandstorm, the image needs to match her leader and queen image, so Thistle doesn't need to add any more stripes. 02:43, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thistle said this; she still can't edit; " I can't fill in earpink in the other ear, it's turned. Look at chararts like Princess, or othe rkittypet chararts, they don't have it either. :3"  Elorisa   02:51, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add depth to the eye. What I mean by this (I'm assuming you may need clarification since you're new) is vary the lights and darks in the eye, such as highly dark and light color. Make the earpink curve with the ear and define it slightly. Blur the stripes a tad more. Durn I was gonna do this one  16:29, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Velvet (Q) ~ For Approval
Comments? 03:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Move the nametag to the middle of her chest and blur the shading a bit. 03:43, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rename it Velvet.queen.png, make the background transparent and add depth to the eyes by varying the colors from light to dark. Like I said on chat, it looks great! 03:45, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 04:07, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the nametag bigger and make it hang a little, such as in Nutmeg's pixil (that's the only one I can think of atm). The earpink is too bright. You can take it from an approved white cat (I'm assuming she's supposed to be white?) On the belly, there is a strip of lighter colored pixils, make sure the shading is consistant there, as well as on the top of the tail. 16:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Jaggedtooth (Alt. W) - For Approval
I'm pretty sure this is going to get declined. In Into the Woods, he is seen just solid-colored with a lighter muzzle. Well, comments? 16:43, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if ya don't know what solid color he was shown as, then yes, it probably will be declined as it is unknown. He'd need stripes, and there'd hardly be a difference. I'll see what the other leads think, so I'm not going to decline this right now 16:47, November 8, 2011 (UTC)