Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

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Fading Echoes Browse Inside Policy

 * Woohoo, Sandy gave me a link to the HarperCollins Browse inside for Fading Echoes! Here is the link if you guys want to read it. We'll be using the same spoiler policy as we did for TFA, since that worked quite well: we will only add spoilers from the Allegiances (until the book comes out), such as name changes. Nothing from the actual book. If you see people adding things from the book, then just remove them until the release. This is so people who don't want spoilers before it comes out won't get them unintentionally. Is this cool with everyone, any questions or concerns? (Note: Don't post any spoilers on talk pages or anything either; since some users could still stumble across them when they don't want to. Try and keep any discussion about the events of it to the IRC or other sites)  insaneular    Talk  21:40, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I saw all the name changes to Blossompaw and Briarpaw and those cats and I was like, "WHAT?!!" I need to read the thing....-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:09, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

-facepalm- I'm an idiot! :(  Trout leap  23:11, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, it was just a mistake Ice, don't feel bad :)  insaneular    Talk  23:12, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

A Clan in Need browse inside has also been released, but I think it will easier with not adding information to articles since it's a manga. But, we get to see Crowfeather in mini version^^. → Sky feather  00:22, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I can't wait til they come out! Of course I'm completely broke at the moment but I get allwence today so. Plus: Crowkit+Leafkit+Squirrelkit=awww!-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:28, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. The book comes out in a few days, so we should start getting ready to update the pages! I'm getting it on release day, but not right after school like I did for TFA, so I'm sorry if I'm not able to help until later that night. Anyways, same drill as for TFA, as soon as the 23rd arrives, any spoilers are fair game, and first priority is probably adding history to the main characters, then cleaning up things such as the family sections and minor characters getting the alleg template. Just posting this so people who weren't here for TFA know what to expect, or just as a reminder ;)  insaneular    Talk  15:46, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

OMS! I completely forgot that it was coming out! I have 2 days! I can't wait! I'm going to be on here all day on Tuesday! After the hour it takes me to read FE.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 16:13, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Just finished reading it. xD I'm going through and adding categories, the header, and the book title in the book appearances. If it has a coming soon template on it, it means they need information added, if not, then you'll see the alleg. template in place. I'll get to actually documenting the appearances tomorrow probably. → Sky feather  00:04, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I just finished, and boy, it was GOOD! Anyways, I've already created pages for the new characters introduced (Wildfur, Snowtuft and Shredtail), but their histories are pretty brief now since it's late. I'll update them more tomorrow, along with StarClan, Place of No Stars, and any other characters I can get to. It's a shame I got it so late in the evening, or else I would have been able to do more today XD Also: I'm going to unprotect Molekit, Cherrykit, and Mistyfoot now (as well as move her to Mistystar) but I'd warn people to be wary of edits to those pages as they might get messed up by anons anway. insaneular   Talk  02:29, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Uh, can someone goes through Ivypaw's FE section and shorten it? I typed up just about all of her appearances and the article got kind of long... xD → Sky feather  19:10, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, since this seems to be kind of a task center now, I'll list the more major characters that still need history added:
 * Jayfeather
 * Lionblaze
 * Dovepaw
 * Tigerstar
 * Hawkfrost
 * Mistystar needs a quick cleanup
 * Firestar could use some expansion
 * Spottedleaf
 * Tigerheart
 * Cinderheart

Of course there's plenty more, but those are the most major ones, which are probably the highest priority and are also the biggest jobs. If you finish one of them feel free to delete it from the list or strike it :P  insaneular    Talk  21:56, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Since the hype has died down a bit, I'll probably archive this soon. We should still focus on adding histories though (I admit I've been slacking off in that regard, I only did Firestar, Tigerheart, Yellowfang, and Hawkfrost, and probably shabbily!)  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 00:55, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

I did Tigerstar... ✐Sa NdY  20:24, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Rising Moon - Silver Nomination
Well, she has all of her appearences and she has a pretty good sized article. I think she's ready. Comments?-- Moonbeam SkyClan will rise! 14:36, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

She needs expansion and citations. I'll work on the citations. Spottedhead Happy Easter! 20:00, April 3 2010 (UTC)

Citations are done. Spottedhead Happy Easter! 20:27, April 3 2010 (UTC)

Thakns, sorry I should have got that. :P -- Moonbeam SkyClan will rise! 13:53, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me, concerns about it?  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 15:08, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good! This might sound a little picky, but could you add a sentence like : At first, Jaypaw thought she was the medicine cat, but soon found out she was a queen: or something? Otherwise, it's good.Snowstorm Deputy of LightClan! 17:49, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

No, that isn't neccesary for the article, in my opinion. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:42, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

We could add something along the lines of 'she was one of the cats with knowledge about medicine' I'll go do that, other then that I think she's good.-- Moonbeam SkyClan will rise! 15:09, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Is this being worked on?  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 00:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think there's anything else to add to this. ✐Sa  NdY  11:39, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Comments before her vote?  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 21:10, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Putting up for vote. Perseus | Perseus ,  Thou art not the hero | Thou art not the hero  10:18, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Patchpelt - Silver Nomination
Wow, there are a lot of good articles here :). Mentor, Apprentice, family and description are cited, and he has a lot of history. →  •Maple  fern•  ←  14:49, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

I think his history could possibly be expanded.. esp Fire and Ice. If he is a minor character in the book then we need to jot down every appearance he has, however brief. ✐Sa NdY  15:00, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, i think he had at least a few more appearances in the original series.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 15:08, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with sandy and insane. It could be expanded. Thats my only problem with the article. Otherwise, its good!Snowstorm Deputy of LightClan! 16:55, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone working on this?  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 00:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I got Fire and Ice done. He's hardly ever seen in that book, he only has like two breif appearences Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:41, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost - Silver Nomination
He has a good sized article and (I believe) all of his cites and refs. His FE section in particular is quite good. Comments?-- Moonbeam SkyClan will rise! 15:53, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'llk have to check it out, but remember to check before nominating next time. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  22:30, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

A few of the sections could use a lot of expansion. I would go through all the books in general, though, just to make sure everything is documented. Skyfeather 16:09, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

New Content Drive
Alright, Cinderpelt's died out a bit, I admit I ignored it pretty much until I did a small cleanup, but all in all, she is greatly improved from her demoted-from-gold status she had before the drive :) Anyways, people didn't suggest anything above, so I'm guessing you didn't see me commenting below all the talk already there. So here's a snazzy new section to suggest the next Content Drive! I'm tempted to do "Adding history for all characters from FE" but when we tried that for TFA it didn't really work out ;) Although the project was much less active then. Anyways, I'll shut up now so you can voice your opinions on who you want to overhaul next.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 00:55, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm new to this content drive stuff, so excuse me if I'm doing something wrong, but I think we should do Firestar- after all, his page is in need of improvements. :)

Also, what's with the font? Things are REALLY hard to read for me... Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 01:01, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

I think Firestar might be good, seeing as he really needs improvement- he wouldn't be silver under the current standards. I'm not sure what you mean about the font, it looks the same to me. Perhaps it's your computer?  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 01:02, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is off the subject, but why is all the lettering bold? Can someone fix it? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:03, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is what I mean. (Feel free to delete this image once you see. =3) Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 01:05, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * err, that's odd. It's not happening to me. I'm wondering if it has something to do with Mouse's siggy, since it has the same font (Impact), but I checked and all the span tags are closed... I really don't know. Hopefully it will resolve itself :(  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 01:07, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

It's not happening to me either. I think Firestar needs a lot of work so we should definitely fix that up-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:18, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. Firestar might be good. And yes, it happened to me to. Surprisingly right after Mouse's sig. Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 01:25, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

I would like to nominate Mistystar. She has gotten more popular following the release of FE, and I think she needs more work than Firestar at the moment. Skyfeather 01:28, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Mistystar would be good, as well. :)

Off topic; I replaced Mouse's sig above with a link to her userpage... sorry, Mousetalon, but the font was really hard on my eyes. D= <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 01:55, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Mistystar is popular, but Firestar...err I don't know. <font color="thistle" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 16:23, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Mistystar is fine with me. We could do Firestar some other time Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:16, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

People seem to want Mistystar, so is that alright with everyone? Firestar could be our next one.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 15:36, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. → •Maple  fern•  ←  15:57, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Same here. But I can't help for The Fourth Apprentice or Fading Echoes. D= <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 16:02, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I will set it up for Mistystar, and when she's done, we'll do Firestar.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 21:10, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Splashnose and Driftkit - Silver Nomination
Since they're all related, and all three of their pages look all snazzy and good, I'd like to nominate them. :) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 01:27, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Its very good, but there's abrely enough to make a paragraph on Splashnose's page. :) Good idea though :) Fawnstorm  This is one battle Tigerstar will not win... 14:51, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Fallowkit is actually Silver already but as for Driftkit and Splashnose, I think they could be a tad more detailed; since they're so minor, we should squeeze all we can out of their short appearance :)  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 00:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Whoops, fail on my part. xD As for the other two, I'll re-read COTC tomorrow- it's getting rather late where I live. :) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 00:59, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

More history could be added and they could be more detailed. Ice Spring is here! 01:05, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Okies, I'm on that now. ^_^ <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 12:55, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Graymist - Silver Nomination
I looked her over, added more history and fixed a couple of things, and she looks fine to me. Comments? Ice Spring is here! 01:17, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but her apperances in Dark River could be expanded. Its very good though for a minor character. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  09:33, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I filled out her history for everything except OTS series - someone else will need to check over that - and filled in the missing citations. ✐Sa NdY  15:53, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Foxleap-Silver Nomination
His article is a good size. I haven't read FE so I don't know what happens. I was wondering if someone could sort that out? Γǻώή ςτόŗm  11:50, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, I haven't even read Long Shadows yet, but think that's actually all of his appearances. Not sure though. x3

I'll look for the "Foxcatcher" quote in Eclipse and a few others if you'd like, but the article looks pretty good in my opinion. ^_^ <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 11:54, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

hmm... I filled out the history; there were a fair few things that could be expanded to make his article fuller - and added a coule of quotes. There were also some citations missing... I got all of them except one for him having green eyes - if anyone else can find it, that would be good. ✐Sa NdY  15:29, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Forgot to mention... I didn't do TFA or FE sections so perhaps someone else can have a look over them? ✐Sa NdY  15:37, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I think some of the sections could be expanded just a bit more. He and Icecloud are very similiar, and I was able to add a lot to her article. Skyfeather 20:47, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I finished off TFA and FE now my books finally arrived and removed the green eyes from his description as I couldn't find a citation anywhere. ✐Sa NdY  16:42, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Whiteclaw - Silver Nomination
My first nomination^-^ I went through his article, and he looks good to me. -- Ŧ ∆ ķ მ ♰ § Ʊ ო Σ          ö 16:28, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he looks good to me too :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:38, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Ayup, comments before the vote?  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 21:10, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Putting up. Perseuς | Perseus ,  Thou art not the hero | Thou art not the hero  10:34, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Scourge - Gold Nomination
Okay, I'm UBER sorry If I'm not allowed to nominate gold, but I have looked over Scourge's page many times, added references to nearly everything (Past names, Past Clans, Descriptions... etc), added quotes, and yeah.

And it's been featured on the front page, which I know is a requirement. ^_^

So... is Scourge ready for gold or am I just being an epic fail by bringing this up? ^^ <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 12:54, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Cite the purple collar. → •Maple  fern•  ←  10:51, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

That would be Revealed on the cover of The Rise of Scourge, right? Cuz I'm dumb and half-asleep at the moment. =P <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 12:54, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Correct. → •Maple  fern•  ←  12:55, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Is there any page (probably in The Darkest Hour) that lists all or at least more than one of his appearance traits? It just looks a bit messy to have a citation every two words in his description and if we could find one that covered most of it it would look better, not to mention be easier to deal with...  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 15:36, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

The Darkest Hour, Pages 4 and 5 have most of the info... should I just put one ref at the end saying, Revealed in Pages 4-5 of The Darkest Hour? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 15:43, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

If those have all of them, then great. It's okay if there's another one or maybe two that really weren't revealed in TDH, they can have their own citations, I just wanted to cut down on the number as much as we can.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 15:44, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Is that better? =P <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 15:47, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I see the citations are perfect, I've researched, the descriptions are beautiful. I think he's ready. LucyϠ <font color="Black">in the Sky With Diamonds 04:27, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

One more thing...Where was it mentioned that he had claws renforced with dogs' teeth? → •Maple  fern•  ←  00:54, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Mmm... I've been looking for that, but I can't find anything. D= <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;"> Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 00:55, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

The Darkest Hour, I'm sure... I'll have a look later when I've actually got dressed ^_^ ✐Sa  NdY  07:03, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sparrowpelt --Silver Nomination
I think Sparrowpelt's article is ready for Silver. I went over his citations and history. → •Maple  fern•  ←  12:55, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

He looks great :) Ah, I remember back in the day... Sparrowpelt was involved in the most unfortunate silver vote ever. He wasn't a bad article, it was just such a sad time for the project... though not as sad as when it was completely inactive, of course! Ah, well, I'll stop rambling, I don't see anything wrong with his page. Although I think we might need to fiddle with the format for the Warrior ceremony sections, that shouldn't stop his individual page  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 13:01, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, I see nothing wrong with him. ^_^ <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 13:03, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

No objections from me. He looks excellent, Maple. Skyfeather 13:10, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed :) I came up with the horrible format for the warrior ceremony XD I think it should be put into a template though, and made so it doesn't take up as much space Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:36, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Kinda like the Speaker a-b dialogue, except with quotes already there, and a spot for names? → •Maple  fern•  ←  10:50, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. He's ready. LucyϠ <font color="Black">in the Sky With Diamonds 04:28, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Halftail - Silver Nomination
I filled out his history, and checked his ciations. I know he needs family ciations, and I'll fill them over later. Comments? -- Ice The stars will light your path... 14:41, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Needs a citation for Snowfur as his apprentice. → •Maple  fern•  ←  17:44, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Got it :) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:25, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

I also cleaned up his history a bit Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:34, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

I did some more editing. It looks OK to me. Helixtalk 20:30, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Only thing that I see is that citation #5 goes page.... no number. Can we put a page number on this? LucyϠ <font color="Black">in the Sky With Diamonds 04:30, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

It is done :)

Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 19:40, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Now "prophecy" is spelled wrong! Quailflight 07:52, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed that. ✐Sa NdY  13:25, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Cherrytail -- Silver Nomination
I think she's ready. Anyway, comments? → •Maple  fern•  ←  12:25, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

She looks good, just like Sparrowpelt.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 15:36, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah,but maybe we should wait until skyclans destiny comes out,since she bound to be in it. Clar ris  sa! :)  12:15, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Being in other books can't stop a character from being Silver... and SkyClan's Destiny won't be out for another two years. Not a short time to wait.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 21:10, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, two years, Insane? XD She looks good to me. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 21:48, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Insane, It comes out in August this year.Well I would've said that too.Lol =) We will just have to add a section when it comes out. Snickers!  Meeow!  I am such a furball.  I ♥ the Warriors wiki!  22:02, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Nvm, i was thinking of the Early Clans super edition that got bumped to 2012 to make way for Crookedstar's Secret. Ignore me plzthx :)  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 23:03, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think its ready,and Clara,so what? <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:aqua">Zoe27 20:12, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Her article is decent. I'm all for it. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   17:46, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Runningnose - Silver Nomination
I went over his history and ciations. I think he ready for silver. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 22:03, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

I think he's ready. The only thing that I can see is that some of his citations are missing. But I'll go ahead and get those. =) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 01:51, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Acorntail - Silver Nomination
I think that his article is definitely worthy of silver nomination. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 01:51, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Whoaaa... now that is an example of information being stretched. LOL. I think he looks good! I checked through the History, and I didn't find anything, so yeah, I agree. It should be nominated. ^^ <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 12:08, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, really good job! Love how you worked on his history. I see nothing wrong, execpt that was his pelt colour revealed? -- Ice The stars will light your path... 22:00, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

The picture of Acorntail and Featherstar is in black-and-white, so you can't tell what color Acorntail's pelt is. =P You can only tell that he's a tabby. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 00:56, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

-shrugs- doesn't really matter. The cats' pelt colors aren't revealed in the mangas either XD I've just picked up that he's a light tabby, most likely light brown. Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 07:12, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Mist and Star - References?
I noticed that both Mist and Star are lacking references- I've checked Moonrise, and there's nothing on their descriptions. Does anyone know the pages where their descriptions may be mentioned? D= <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 22:29, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... Did you check any of the other books (That had the Tribe in them)? Im not quiet sure myself, really. Fail on my part. 火の毛皮 23:23, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Redscar -- Silver Nomination
I think Redscar's article looks good. Comments? → •Maple  fern•  ←  00:52, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think he needs a pelt colour ciation. Somebody check in COTC? -- Ice The stars will light your path... 00:54, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

He has one. → •Maple  fern•  ←  00:55, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar - Silver Nomination
Ah, an evil character. :3 He looks good to me. But, I'm blind and who knows, I could have missed something! xD -- Ice The stars will light your path... 00:58, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Err, are you sure you meant this for gold? He's not even silver yet and he hasn't been featured...  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 11:34, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

oh, sorry. I meant silver. Stupid me! *bangs head against a wall* -- Ice The stars will light your path... 17:48, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Snake and Ice?
Hey guys, I don't think Snake and Ice are gray. I haven't read Secrets of the Clans in a while, but I don't remember it saying they're gray anywhere in that book. However, in "A Clan in Need" (I don't own the book, I read it at Barnes and Noble) when a patrol of ThunderClan cats attacks a group of BloodClan cats, Ravenpaw saw two cats who had coloring excatly like Barley. I don't remember excatly what happened but Ravenpaw put two and two together and realized that they must be brothers. Then Violet went up to them and talked to them, reminding them that she was their sister. Anyway, I know that the mangas are never really accurate on cat's coloring, (In A Clan in Need, Rainpaw was white with darker patches :P) but if it doesn't say they're gray in Secrets of the Clan, shouldn't we go with black and white? - Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 01:52, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Mmm, I guess we could do that. =3 <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;"> Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 01:54, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

We'd need a citation of course, which I can't give at the moment :P Anyone here own "A Clan in Need"? Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 05:40, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Not me, no... I got TFA instead of it. xD But I can skim through SOTC, TDH and any other book they may be in, if you want. ^^ <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;"> Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 12:47, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I checked Secrets of the Clans, no sign of their description. They aren't mentioned or seen in The Darkest Hour I don't think. I'll go ahead and change their descriptions, but I'll need someone who owns "A Clan in Need" to cite it  Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 02:40, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I looked at a browse inside and found an okay citation, but it wouldn't let me go to the exact page where it comfirmed that Snake and Ice were black and white. On page 10, Barley is dreaming about how Snake and Ice almost killed Violet. They're standing on the dumpster with Scourge. It doesn't say that they are Snake and Ice, but if you've read Secrets of the Clans, you'll know that that's them. And they're the same cats that are in the image near the end of the book. So, that's them. We'll get a better citation soon :) Nightfall The evening star is shining bright

Here's the part from The Darkest Hour:

Not far away, Barley and Ravenpaw were battling side by side against a pair of identical gray tomcats, lean warriors whose collars bristled with teeth. "I know you!" one of them spat at Barley. "You didn't have the courage to stay with Scourge." -page 292 -- Gοlδεnpαω A p p a r e ! 03:04, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure that's Snake and Ice though? I mean, I know it's very likely, but it never says their names or that they're Barley's brothers in that part. As I stated above, the mangas are not a very reliable source when it comes to the character's coloring, but still. Which description do the rest of you think we should go with? (thank you for pointing that out, I completely forgot about that part XD) Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 19:31, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Mmm, I think the description Goldenpaw's got is the more reliable one. After all, two identical cats? They have to be brothers, right? And they recognized Barley, too. ^_^ <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;"> Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 19:44, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but I'm still unsure because they didn't comfirm that was them, it just sort of implied. Yet, I also feel unsure about whether or not to use the description in the mangas... it's all just making my head hurt XD Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 19:47, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, let's just stick to the gray. I think it's pretty likely that those two cats were Snake and Ice considering the circumstances. And we all know that the mangas have some... mistakes sometimes. I think it's easier if we just go with the description from TDH.  i nsaneular The original Hazelnut spread 11:34, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right :) I went a head and cited their descriptions Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 23:43, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Family lists...
I guess I'll get some flak for this, but I decided to post it nevertheless... :)

so... checking through some character articles, I'd say that we are overdoing it with the Family lists. Many of them have 50-60 or more members listed, distant ancestors, distant descendants, distant cousins, anything for which a tie could be thought up; but most don't have any relevance to the cat or to the storyline whatsoever. Some articles are taken up almost entirely by family and associated references (like here).

I'd say only immediate members should be listed; parents, siblings, kits and mate. And possibly grandparents, grandkits, aunts/uncles, first cousins, nieces/nephews - if the ties are relevant to the storyline. The rest can be figured out from the Tree, and the pages of the related cats.

Kind regards, Helixtalk 06:51, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Personally I see no harm in listing a complete family. If someone wants to see only immediate family, that's what the family section of the charcat is for. The family section allows a more comprehensive look for obsessive fans (such as myself) to find ties between various cats. I agree that they can get a bit long, but they're at the end of the page anyways...  i nsaneular The original Hazelnut spread 10:36, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Helix. I gotta go with Insane on this one.

Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 19:32, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sol - Gold Nomination
He looks good to me. He's been silver, featured, and I think he could do with gold. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 02:06, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm... I could have sworn I saw Sol with gold... plus it says on the Project Page that he's gold. o_o

Time to do some research, me thinks... (But yeah, if Sol was demoted from Gold, I think he looks good enough for gold now) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;"> Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 02:09, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yup, he should be gold... see this. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:blue; background:black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;"> Vaan "So, Fran... how old are you?" 02:19, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he is already gold. :O Will archive this is due time.  i nsaneular The original Hazelnut spread 11:34, April 17, 2010 (UTC)