Warriors Wiki talk:Books/Discussion Archive 18

Midnight (Book)/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
Yep, I created the page and added everything. Comments? 13:46, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Possibly remove the Births, Deaths, Ceremonies, and Errors section, and I think Bluestar would classify as a major character, I'm not sure though. Also, is it possible to expand the summary, or detail it? 15:30, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Is this still being worked on? 17:34, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Done. I'm not going to expand the summary as much of the stuff in the book is very minor and isn't worth mentioning. 17:44, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can you add the navigation template? 22:17, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind me. The navigation template is not complete, and someone can go through and add it when it is. But for now, comments before vote? 21:58, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

We're holding off votes until the navigation template is completed. There shouldn't be any votes or even CBV's until we have everything completed and ready to go. 19:52, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

CBV?

The Darkest Hour/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
I created the page and all - comments? 15:43, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Can the summary be expanded and detailed? 01:01, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. 17:45, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can you add the navigation template? 22:24, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind me. The navigation template is not complete, and someone can go through and add it when it is. But for now, comments before vote? 22:00, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

We're holding off votes until the navigation template is completed. There shouldn't be any votes or even CBV's until we have everything completed and ready to go. 19:52, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

CBV?

Sign of the Moon/Prologue ~ Silver Nomination
Created the page and completed it. :3 15:51, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

Remove Important Events and Errors, as there are none~ 15:31, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 16:32, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Can you add the navigation template? 22:24, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

And the "Warriors Cliffnotes" template. 22:27, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

Done, on the cliffnotes, navigation table hasn't been decided yet. 02:20, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind me. The navigation template is not complete, and someone can go through and add it when it is. But for now, comments before vote? 22:00, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

We're holding off votes until the navigation template is completed. There shouldn't be any votes or even CBV's until we have everything completed and ready to go. 19:52, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

CBV?

Chapters
Hey all,

I see that the chapter pages idea was accepted, and work has already started. Gret job! :)

From what I've seen, the articles are great.

Some suggestions that came to my mind (I regret I didn't check the page earlier, when there was the discussion / vote; anyway, I mention them, and the contributors decide what to do with it).


 * There should be a nav box on chapter pages pointing to other chapters of the book (or at least to the previous and next chapters). For instance, I can imagine a box like this:

This could be for instance in the top right corner (instead of the table of contents, which can be erased with the NOTOC key).


 * I consider self-references a bit redundant; i.e. in "Midnight/Chapter 1" there should not be references to Midnight Chapter 1 (it's a matter of a couple of pages. I think that we lately took up the habit of over-referencing).


 * Empty sections should be deleted as they look as if the article was unfinished; e.g. if there were no births in a chapter, there is no need for a "Births" section


 * Do we need to grade these articles? Grading was useful for Character or World pages, where many authors needed to make an extensive research work of thousands of pages, so it was vital to assess the quality. In my opinion chapters are a bit simple to get grades.

Kind regards, 19:03, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I totally agree with this idea. It would make things a lot easier. 18:54, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Helice, you're epic.

Anyways, we //were// planning on adding a navigation template, but that's 'Teldy's area, and she's currently on vacation. XD I like what you've layed out so far. Perhaps once 'Teldy gets back, we can combine //both// ideas.

Sorry, my previous edit was sent before it was ready - I completed it now. 19:03, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Wee, and now I respond to the rest of your comment. Yes, they should be graded, as the rest of the articles are. Galleries and allegiances are, and all the allegiances are is a simple copy and paste from the book. Personally, I think all project pages should be graded, because if they're not, people are going to think that a half-done summary is okay for these pages, when it's not. The whole point of the subpages is to add more detail, and I think that grading is a perfectly normal way to go about it. Just like in PC, a nomination is a way to allow other members to critique an article and provide their own input. It's perfectly okay, and I'm sure the other members will agree with me. Personally, I see no problem with it, and I'm only allowing three nominations per user at a time.

As for the empty sections, yes, they can be removed. I see no need for them to be there either, as it gives the impression that there's more to be added to the article.

Oh, and I quite like referencing, thank you. We can further verify the information shown in the chapter. Plus, it would really help crack down on the entire "false cite" thing we seem to have going on right now.

So, we remove births ect., if there are none? 20:19, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, please. I think it's kinda stupid to have them on there if there are none. I originally said to just put "none" or something like that, but since when have we really done that? On //any// article? XD

Here's the idea I had, but we could always use what Helix has which would salvage the main navigation box, of course we could always have two navigational boxes. Anyways, I leave it up to the project. 17:28, August 15, 2012 (UTC)