Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Declined 78

Thistleclaw (DF) ~ Declined
Wow I screwed it up. OA was Jayie, redone to be a tabby

Wow, I really need to keep a closer eye on the tweak nominations page. I'm sorry, I hate to ask this when I clearly already had a chance to take this, but is there any chance you'd be willing to let me do this? I only ask because I made the Dark Forest blanks, and this was the only Dark Forest image I ever managed to do before they all got snapped up. With almost any other image I'd understand, but I really don't want to lose the only image I got to do for the blank I created. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:37, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

But Jayie, this is the only dark forest image I did as well...

Considering jayie /is/ the original oa, she should have dibs over her image. Not too sure how it would be resolved in this situation however.. it could go either way. 06:14, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Well, Bramble reserved this first and Jayie wasn't there to claim it, so this image is Bramble's. Jayie /did/ have dibs over it when it was being nominated, but bramble claimed it. If Bramble decides to give it over then it would be Jayie's but it's Bramble's because Jayie wasn't there to claim it. 06:15, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

I'm really sorry to beg, but I made the blanks, and I was only ever able to grab one image to do with them. I was okay with that, but I really, really don't want to lose the only image I was able to make with the blanks I created. Jayie Unwritten words~ 07:03, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Regardless of who has it reserved right now and who claimed it on the tweak page, it is Jayie's image and she should be allowed to redo it if it wants it. Especially since it was her only DF image. 07:12 Thu Oct 1

It's first come, first serve. Bramble has it reserved, so regardless of it being Jayie's image, it's bramble's. Something similar happened to Bramblestar's apprentice image, and the OA asked for it but the redone artist actually refused. This image is Bramble's unless she gives it to Jayie. 07:17, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

It passed so quicky that Jayie did not have a chance to claim her image. Let her have it- OAs always take priority. First come, first serve isn't fair when it wasn't on the tweak nominations page for even a day, honestly. That is nowhere near enough time for the OAs to notice. >.>

She had more than 11 hours- but that isn't the point, the point is she wasn't there to claim it. It is unfair to Bramblesnow to have to hand this over- she already has this done, and Jayie wasn't there to claim it. I believe that priority only holds when the nomination is ongoing, an OA cannot just automatically snatch an image from someone when it already has passed and was posted, that is unfair and something similar to this happened where the OA wasn't allowed to reclaim it. I understand that Jayie wants this- but the main point is, she wasn't there to claim it herself. 08:07, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

But also, Bramble, are you willing to let her take it, or are you willing to do this yourself? 08:10, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

I want to do this, but I don't really know... this is the only dark forest image for both of us, but she made the blanks, and I claimed it first. So I don't know .-.

Burnt, 11 hours is not ample enough time to claim an image. In fact, it's hardly fair at all to deny Jayie her image- it wasn't even the amount of time we let things sit on the tweak page before archiving them. Tbh, it seems like people aren't notifying others their images are being nominated to begin with- especially if they're still around. I repeat myself- eleven hours is not ample enough time for someone to claim their image. It's not even half a day! If it was up for a week, sure. But not half a damn day.

I think we should all be calmer about this- I hardly think it's fair to Bramble either, since Jayie wasn't there to claim her image, and she already has it done... I understand Jayie wants it, and it is fair to let her have it too, but still. 10:19, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly, we're all too fast at claiming images. This image is rightfully Jayie's and Bramble should have asked her personally before even commenting to give her a chance to say she wanted it. Saying 'unless the OA wants this I want it' is kind of unfair honestly. Not all of us are here 24/7 to see stuff like that, and not all of us are constantly checking the tweak page either. That's one of the last places I check, even if it's at the top of the activity. Jayie should have this. It is not fair. 11:00 Thu Oct 1

Oh my god who freaking cares!!? We don't need to have a huge argument on this, please. I had to argue with myself to give this to Berry, and now I have to watch this fight. It's okay for me to give up on this. The only thing is last time I tried to claim Bramblepaw and Icy didn't give it to me either? Does making the blank really matter that much... I guess it does. You're right, it's just not fair. Since when was PCA fair? I don't care about this damn thing anymore, Jayie can take it.

Okay wait what did I do what 11:17, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Guys, stop. This is just an image- Icy, I think she was talking about the time when you did Bramblestar's apprentice, she asked for it, and you refused; Bramble: are you withdrawing? Everyone: calm down and there's no need for the drama on this. 11:34, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

No I'm not withdrawing. My goal in this wiki was always to not withdraw anything, and I don't want to lose until all hopes die. I'm prepared for it to be declined though. And yea I was talking about that

So, I'm a bit confused. Are you giving it to Jayie, then??? Also, you tweaked Bramblepaw, I think....correct? That does entitle you to the image, and I believe you could have asked for it- it was on the tweak nominations page for quite a few days, I'm pretty sure of it. It was a heated discussion and tons of arguments... that's not quite the same case- you had multiple days to claim your image- Jayie had less than half a day. She wasn't even asked if she still wanted Thistleclaw, and it was approved and snipped so fast that Jayie never had the chance to respond to it or even notice it, due to it being archived quickly. If you're going to give it to Jayie, then I can decline this- if Jayie wouldn't post with her version, then you'd be under all grounds to take it back.

Nobody asked me either... but I guess.

Oh actually, if Jayie doesn't post hers, I'll give it to Berry.

So wait, I'm confused now. Are you giving it to me, or keeping it? Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:55, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

I don't really care if this gets me backlash or not because I'm honestly sick of the way this Wiki is becoming. Literally nobody contacts the OA's anymore and asks them if they want their images (it is perfectly fair because the OA generally has the original, layered files and sending files over to other people is more tedious than tweaking it if you made it), people are so quick to claim the cats they want instead of having respect for the work that the person before you put into it, and it creates less work. We really need to start enforcing asking the OA's if they want their images instead of expecting them to magically see. Screw that. And I just mean this in general I'm not trying to attack the original poster but this is just an example of a behavior that the Wiki really needs to step up and change please and thanks. 05:09, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Redoing doesn't require the files, Iveh. And Jayie I don't think it depends on me anymore so... And even if you don't want it, it's Berry's. So maybe you can ask Berry instead? And we're going to deal with that somewhere else so I'm declining this.

Wait, what does this have to do with me? It should be Jayie's image, not mine...o.O 11:04 Fri Oct 2

Nah I mean if I get to keep it I'll let you do it. everyone knows he's your fave

But /jayie/ asked for it. This is her original image. 20:18, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

the fact is she missed it. it sucks, but it went through and bramble got it. yes she should have been contacted, but now its hardly fair to her, either. 23:09, October 2, 2015 (UTC)