Talk:Firestar/Archive 4

Firestar has a thick coat
Firestar has a thick coat, it was said that in Into the Wild where it was said he has a thick coat. Probably at page 7.

If you have a citation then add it. I'll look for it in my copy when I remember it. Also, please sign your post 22:38, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Leader information
The leader information is all messed up. It's not that the information is wrong, but The deputies section is in the nine lives section and that makes the spacing all wonky. HollyleafOfThunderclan 22:31, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the leader info best I could. I know the spacing on how he lost his lives is a bit off, but I couldn't see why in the coding. 22:59, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

It has to do with the template. I don't think the size of the "lost" column is big enough. 23:06, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Mentors?!
It says Cinderpelt and Cloudtail were his mentors. Seafang 15:01, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't, but it looks like that. I can try to fix it the best I can, but it's the normal formatting for the charcat. And I moved this to the most recent archive so people could read it, other then the first. -- 15:36, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Last Hope
Since its going to be a while until it comes out and that's not soon, should we even have that? SpottedtalonMudears 03:47, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Kit Image
Shouldn't he have the kit image with a collar, like scourge. He was only a kittypet untill he was old enough to be an apprentice, so he was a kit. Elmostar of PuppetClan 01:51, September 11, 2011 (UTC)Elmostar

Please take any charart issues to Project: Character Art. Thank You. 23:19, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know how. I'm really new. -Elmostar; Power to the Puppets! 01:10, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Firestar
Err.... Firestar's images look like tabbies.... Firestar isn't a tabby, right? 22:40, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Please take any character art issues to Project: Character Art. Thank You. 23:20, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Why is it that if you type in Sandstar and click on it it redirects you to this page? Should that be fixed? It is pointless to have it there. Sunleaf+Pinewhisker 02:48, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Should it have 'handsome 'in the description? In the allegiances of The Darkest Hour he was a "handsome ginger tom". Sunleaf+Pinewhisker 02:02, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

No. That's an opinion, and has nothing to do with his physical description. 02:05, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Ripped ear
Shouldn,t he have ripped ear on his charat? It is mentioned in his description and in several books. (I have page numbers and quotations)Nightbird 20:45, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes you might take that up with the PCA Nightbird.Laynabug 04:51, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Trivia
On his trivia it said that he was called Sandstar once in The Rescue on page 86.. But when I check there was no such thing. I wanted to make sure if it should just be edited if it was on the wrong page or removed completely. (still a bit new, I guess .3.) xD Mi  st  y!  21:53, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Mentor
Should Firestar have a second apprentice ceremony box for when he officially recieved his mentor, Bluestar? He didn't really get a mentor the first time. 02:50, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Aprentice Image
I was just looking at him and noticed his apprentice image was not there.Rain1088 20:23, November 3, 2011 (UTC)Rain1088

That is because currently in PCA we are redoing the apprentice blanks. All the apprentice images are being taken off the pages. If you have any further questions, take it up with PCA. 20:25, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Squirrelxbramble235 03:54, March 24, 2012 (UTC):/

Blue eyes on cover?
Should we add in Trivia that on the Traditional Chinese cover of Into The Wild, that Firestar`s eyes are blue? http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/File:OS-1-CN.gif 22:56, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Look green to me, though they do kinda have a blue tint. Those covers should count, I guess if ya wanna you could out in his trivia he was seen with blue-green eyes. 23:06, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Charat
I'm sorry to bother, but I couldn't help noticing somthing wrong in Firestar's new charat. While it is a beautiful charat, his description says that he has a flame colored pelt, and this looks more brown than flame colored. Thank you, Moonstorm88 03:02, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Take this up with PCA. Also, we're tweaking his images at the moment. 03:05, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much! That was really bugging me! Moonstorm88 03:06, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I wouln't like the image to be redone, I would like a revert to the previous image. Moonstorm88 03:23, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

The projects decided that his image is getting redone, and there are reasons, such as realism. 03:25, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you. Moonstorm88 16:04, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering why in his charat he's a tabby. And don't tell me that's because it's impossible for a ginger cat to be solid ginger, because it's not. I have seen solid ginger cats before with my own eyes. I think that if he wasn't said to be a tabby, he should be reverted back to solid ginger. 01:04, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

No, it is impossible for ginger cats to not have visible stripes. If you want to claim you've seen a solid colored ginger cat, take a picture of it and hand it to some scientists, since it's a biological anomaly. 01:07, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Proof? And he's been shown on the cover and CotC to have tabby stripes. 01:07, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Most red ("ginger") cats do show a tabby pattern. Most red cats are males (but red females are not as rare as tortoiseshell males are. )

The more complicated version about the tabby thing: All cats have some kind of tabby pattern. but there is a separate gene called Agouti that makes a tabby pattern show distinctly But even in a non-Agouti solid black cat, you might be able to faintly see a tabby pattern in the sunlight --like some stripes on his tail..

BUT....Cats with red-based pigment without the Agouti gene show a tabby pattern much more so than non-Agouti cats with black based pigment would. So most red (ginger) cats do show a tabby pattern whether or not they have "Agouti". (this is coutresy of Ariane deR on yahoo answers)

So, basically, 99% of the time they have stripes. As I said, it's a scientific anomaly for a ginger cat to be non-tabby. 01:12, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

I saw these identical twin bothers at an adoption fare, so I don't know where they are now. They were long furred with blue eyes and solid orange. Their two other brothers were two small, short haired black cats. I swear this is what I saw. 01:22, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Not that I don't believe you, but I'd like picture proof. 01:23, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

The science outwieghs your claim. Even is you google "solid ginger cat" the most you get is a ginger cat with verrry pale stripes, but even then you can see them, so it's a moot point. 01:24, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Here. I found a picture of a solid ginger cat. As far as I can tell, he looks very close to the cats I saw and I can't find any stripes on him. 01:30, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

My cat kida looks like that except he has white one him, and I see stripes on that picture. It looks like ripples in the fur, but there are stripes. There's also some on the tail. 01:41 Thu Jan 12

He has thickly clustered stripes. Look at the top compared to the bottom. The differentiation in the ginger means stripes. 01:44, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Oh. Well that's really odd. Okay then. Maybe it was because they were kittens? I still know what I saw. 01:48, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Death?
In one of the Erin Hunter chats they said that Firestar would die, and their would be a long, dramatic conversation afterwards. Should that be added to the trivia? I'm a banana! 00:03, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

If you can cite it, yes. 05:22, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that Firestar will die in the last Omen of the Stars book, and Brambleclaw will become leader. It only makes sense, right? Violetwing 21:56, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

This is not the place for idle chit-chat. Take it to the Off-wiki Forum. 22:55, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Trivia
In his trivia, it is mentioned that Tigerstar is called Firestar. It's also in Tigerstar's trivia. Just curious, but why is it in Firestar's trivia too if it relates to Tigerstar? Thanks. 00:18, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Because Tigerstar was mistakenly called Firestar. Think about it. XD 00:25, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Should it be mentioned in Firestar's trivia that on the cover of Firestar's Quest he is shown with a white pattern around his muzzle and eyes? 07:05, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

The Last Hope
Vicky mentioned not long ago on her facebook that Firestar is six years old. Should we put that and that he is the fourth in his trivia, after all, many fans have been wondering about those two facts for a long time? :)

And do you guys think that the text about him in The Last Hope on his page should be longer? FirestarLuva 09:59, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Waaaay longer, come on! He died in that book, there must be more. Skyflight

Current
It says he is currently in ThunderClan. But he is in StarClan!

It is correct how you see it there. If you look under this section, you can see the Post-Death section. This is where StarClan stands at his residence after he has died. KalinaVita 00:30, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

TLH
Should we put in the trivia section that (Spoilers) Sandstorm says in TLH that Firestar only has one life left but in Erin Hunter Answers Your Questions Summer of 2011 it says he has 2 lives going into TLHTheBoss2 01:31, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Firestar
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why did he have to die!?!?!?! My favorite character! :' ( Ezio Auditore 23:59, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

This doesn't belong here. The Talk Page is here to improve the page of Firestar, not for your personal opinion, please. KalinaVita 00:29, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Leader of Modern LionClan
Should additional leader information list Firestar as the leader of Modern LionClan? We could even include the other leaders giving him control as his leadership ceremony for that... just a thought. 17:34, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well, that's a great point. I don't see why he shouldn't, because after all, he did lead it. I say if nobody has any objections we should add it in :3  17:40, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I mean we have Graystripe's temporary deputy position listed on his page. Why not this, right? 17:49, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Why not? He was the leader of Modern LionClan, and if we have something like that for Graystripe, why not Firestar?

Age
In Firestar's age bar it is said he's 8 moons old, while Vicky confirmed a few days before The Last Hope was released that he is 6 years old (74 moons) - 44 years. Just type Firestar's age on Google and hit fifth or sixth link for proof. FirestarLuva 22:08, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Vicky has been wrong before and she's wrong in this case. We've documented proof that he is two years older than she thinks. Can't blame her for losing track when she has so many characters to deal with.

In short, book evidence overrides her since she's made so many mistakes in the past. 22:11, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

This mean the series is ending now that Firestar's dead? TeamSonicPrez 01:32, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

Two LIves
You know how Firestar was supposed to have two lives at the begining of The Last Hope. Does anyone think that this is an error or that when tigerstar killed him he lost both lives or that he lost a live sometime in the book before tigerstar killed him and it is just not said in the book?Shadow ruler the shadow's might 12:52, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Well, he fought in the battle, and, in the book, he wasn't always in the POV character's line of sight, it's possiblie that he lost his life to a DF warrior, wounds, drowning (Prehaps he was held under water in a stream?) We don't know. 14:39, June 28, 2012 (UTC)