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Stormcloud (KP) ~ For Approval
Is it possible for me to get the whole set later? I already have the others finished, I just need this approved. ~ Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  15:52, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his hip a bit, and define the earpink, it's hard to see. Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:07, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

For the hundrenth time, my shading is always smudged . AKA no, I won't blur it. Re-upped for earpink tho. ~ Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  23:02, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Can you smudge the shading some more? 23:31 Tue Aug 26 23:31, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Tbh, I can't tell it's smudged, and I would have made the same mistake Jayie did. Don't get snippy- it's honestly hard to see that it's smudged shading. Also, what's up with the tail stripes? I can't tell they're there because of the shading.

..Did I come across as rude? I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention V_V Anyway, the tail stripes are rings. Should I make them more visible? ~ Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  00:03, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Could you please, Shinx? That would be lovely. ^.^

Lighten the ear pink a bit, or at least make it more visible. Also, he kind of looks blind with the eyes so dull like that...perhaps lighten them up or sumtin'.... 01:34, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Define the eye depth while you're lightening his eyes. Also, even though the shading is smudged it still looks way too dark and awkward on this cat so if you would please blur it down some that'd be nice. You'll see if you go up and look at Littlebird, me and Cloudy(Jayce) I'm old lol were telling Ducksplash the same thing. 14:32, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups I'm sorry, but no, I won't blur it. I tried just now, it makes it look strange to me. I can lighten it if you want, or change to blurred shading (which I'd rather not do if I don't have to), or put a layer of blurred shading on top, but I can't blur the shading that's already smudged. ~ Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  14:49, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, why not try both methods that you just suggested, and upload them to tinypic or something, and let me see what each version looks like?

http://i60.tinypic.com/qn5mo0.png http://i60.tinypic.com/15heo3m.png Here ya go. ~ Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  22:28, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

I like the first link better personally. 00:10, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

That's the blurred shading, and again, I REALLY don't want to switch to it if I don't have to. If more then one person tells me to, I guess I can do it, but I don't like using blurred shading much. ~ Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  09:58, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

I think if you just smudge it more itll turn out right. 10:00, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re-upped Smudged the shading more, and added a bit of texture. I can remove it if you want. ~ Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  15:00, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

The shading is very odd please expand it, blur it, and then define it to soften it. (protip: you can both smudge and blur shading wow) <span style="">21:29 Fri Aug 29 2014

I'll go define it and stuff, but as I said before (read up a bit), I've tried blurring it, it looks strange. o_o <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  21:36, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Then try a different tint, or even black, if you're not using it. Still trying to figure out what people have against using black shading; I like it. Changing what you're shading with can have amazing results.

Reups Redid the shading. It was black to begin with. <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  15:28, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Since we don't have a specific shade of gray for him, would you mind making him a more neutral shade of gray? You don't have to go much darker, but perhaps try between #C1C1C1 and #A1A1A1?

Re-upped 16:06, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware this is artist's choice, but could you lighten up the shading a bit? It looks a tad too dark. Also, define the eye depth. 14:56, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

It's only artist's choice when it's not obnoxiously dark, making the pattern hard to see, ect. You're allowed to ask someone to lighten the shading- artist's choice is nonsense sometimes, and only applies to smaller things.

The shading is fine. I can see the patter clearly, so imo, it doesn't need to be lightned. <span style="">00:00, 09/4/2014

Well, I'm having issues seeing parts of it, and I think lowering the opacity...maybe between 5 and 15 percent (depends on how you have your shading and stuff) on the bar would possibly do the trick. Try around 15 at first, and if that's a bit too much, go back to what you had, and then lower it by, say, 11 or 12, and then keep doing the same thing.

Re-upp(ing, my internet's taking forever to load it)ed I kinda like dark shading, but yeah, it did need lightening. 15:03, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Would maybe adding another thinner tail ring be acceptable? Like, between the last two on the tail? Between the one on the tail tip and the one after that.

That'd be very much acceptable, I'll do it when I get home. Hopefully the reupload page for Petalfur's kit will be loaded by then. Stupid internet ><  13:35, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Due to computer issues, I've lost the file. Please be patient while I redo V_V 15:26, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Finally reupped 19:47, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten that shading up, especially on the leg/haunch and back. <span style="">8:11 PM, Tue Sep 9, 2014

It looks fine to me. It's already on a very low opacity, if I lighten it much more, I can't see it. 07:53, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

I agree wit Rocket- the whole "artist's choice" thing only goes so far. Please lighten it.

I know it does, I honestly dont give a crap about artist's choice. The opacity is literally like, twelve, and at least on my PC (Mind you, it's old and not really made for art) I could barely see it. I can lighten it, I suppose, when I'm not on mobile. 18:00, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

It's making it hard for me to see the strips so if you would lighten it, that would be helpful. You don't need to get irritated. <span style="">10:06 PM, Wed Sep 10, 2014

Re-upped I wasn't getting irritated, just stating why I didn't feel the need to lighten it. Anyway, I lightened the whole image, because the colors were bordering on dark grey. 08:38, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

blur/smudge the haunch and front leg shading a bit more then it should be redy for CBa. 07:05, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Grasspaw (A) ~ For Approval
Another pale brown tabby. :3 Added a thin texture.

Add some light to the far back paw, and possibly the back? I think there would probably be some light there with your source. (If you don't use highlights, ignore me.)) <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  15:24, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up ~ Added some highlights on the paw and a bit on the end of her back.

Can you define the ear pink on > side just a bit? 19:54, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Could you make her look a bit less green-ish. Tinting your shading brown/red might work. Also, for pale brown cats, I tend to use #9c6442 as a nice pale brown shade, but that's totally up to you if you want to do that. 01:58, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up ~ Defined the ear pink by removing a little bit of the shading, and made the shading brownish. :3

Earpink still needs to be define in the ---> ear. Looking good:) 13:56, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Try shifting your earpink layer around a bit... <span style="">7:49 PM, Thu Sep 4, 2014

Re-up ~ Defined the ear pink a bit again. :3 Sorry for being late, school is starting again and I'm busy with my own wiki. And what do you mean with shifting the earpink layer around?

It still looks a tad green...perhaps try making the base coat more reddish, or use the hex code I gave above for it?? if you chose to use the hex code, then you should also set the stripe layer to multiply as well. I think that'd do the trick o3o 22:01, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

I mean moving the ear pink layer over/under some layers of shading if it's on its own layer. <span style="">1:41 PM, Sun Sep 7, 2014

The earpink is fine as-is. I can see it clearly, and not everyone has shading on the earpink. <span style="">22:18 Tue Sep 9

Is this still being worked on?

Re-up ~ Made the fur color a little more reddish. Hope it's better now. c:

Define the light on the feets a tad more and I think this'll be ready. 15:50, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Spikepaw (A) ~ For Approval
I'm on a roll. First time I've been happy with texture. Comments? 21:15, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the fur into the earpink a bit more. 04:00, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 20:08, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on all four paws. Looks pretty! 01:27, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Is that supposed to be texture? I can't tell, and it fades into the shading. Could you define that a lot?

Reuploaded. 01:40, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Try smudging the texture more - it looks like it's markings/stripes on the body. 18:34, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 18:43, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

I can't see it at all on the tail now. Define that? Also, the texture should flow with the direction of the fur, so on the haunch, it should go down the leg toward the foot. If that makes any sense. If you need a demo, message me, and I can teach you. <span style="">18:57, 09/6/2014

Snowpaw (OTS) (A) ~ For Evaluation
First charart, so it's not brilliant. Colourpicked from his kit image. Not entirely sure how Evaluation differs from Approval, but it's to do with being a kit. So, evaluation? EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:11, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Remove the waste around the charart and blur the shading on the tail and back leg a tiny bit more. This is good ofr a first charart c: 10:32, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Is that better? Does it still need more blurring? EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:49, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading and add more around the haunch. 14:07, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes aren't showing yet but I'll do another re-up of they don't in the next few minutes. EosOfTheDawn (talk) 14:47, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

I fixed the charart alignment for you. Define the shading slightly? Good job on your first charart. <span style="">8:03 PM, Tue Sep 2, 2014

Blur the shading- also you don't need to mention fixing the charart alignment, just do it. =P

Re-uploaded Wiki's not showing the changes so look here: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2me7g3p&s=8#.VAbt39tQAVY --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:28, September 3, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten up that shading just a tick and define it (put a layer over it on the edges and blur is slightly less but set the layer opacity to the same as the original shading.} <span style="">8:16 PM, Wed Sep 3, 2014

Also if you use gimp I recommend the airbrush for your shading. That way it puts on a nice layer that is easily manageable and you can darken or lighten it to your liking. ;) nice job! 12:44, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips! Is this better? I think it might still be too dark: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=f1xreu&s=8#.VAi29NtQAVY --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 18:57, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe another tick of two on the opacity layer for all of your shading. Looking nice, Eos. <span style="">7:46 PM, Thu Sep 4, 2014

Thanks! changes http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=aebrqb&s=8#.VAmlldtQAVY --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 11:56, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Did you colour pick the eyes? I'm not sure if it's just me, but they're looking a bit red on my screen. Brick  20:05, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

^^same here^^ Maybe define the eye depth a bit and lighten them just a tick? <span style="">8:21 PM, Fri Sep 5, 2014

I think the eyes are fine as they are. <span style="">21:00 Fri Sep 5

The eyes are colourpicked. That's how they are on his kit image so I don't think I should change them.--EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:24, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the shading a little bit? It's looking pretty sharp. <span style="">17:32, 09/6/2014

changes wasn't much blurring to do, I have to say. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=aebrqb&s=8#.VAmlldtQAVY --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:05, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Not bad for a first. Add some light to the front of the far back paw, and possibly add some depth to the torso shading? 11:32, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Shading could still be blurred some. <span style="">22:21, 09/8/2014

The only shading that I think could be blurred is the head shading. Everything else looks fine to me.

Also, there's a huge block of waste. 07:59, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Dewpaw (A) ~ Withdrawn
Mrrow this was fun. :3 12:28, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Brighten the white and extend it all the way up the neck. That's what I did with the kit..

Define what you mean by "extend" because I made sure the white was on the neck exactly how it was done on the kit. But I could be a little off. 21:34, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

The white should be extended all the way up the shoulders, exactly like what Sorrel did for Havenpaw.

Re-uploaded. Brightened the white up a bit, and extended the white over the shoulder. Can't brighten the white up too much because of shading..sorry it's the only way I know how to shade apprentices. Hope it's what you were looking for..and any tips you can provide to help me, Cloudy, are always welcome if you think I'm currently sucking this up. xD 22:28, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, perhaps try something like this? The white seems a tad bit overblurred, and if you have to redo it, take your time and follow what I linked.

Re-uploaded. I ended up redoing the image. Took my time and followed what you linked. I must say I'm pleased with the results. Thanks, Cloudy. =3 EDIT: I also tried a different source so I hope it looks alright. 23:16, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

I preferred the old light source, it matched up with the kit image. The paws look a little too grey, brighten them a bit? EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:23, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Light sources don't need to match, Eos, btw. Define the shading. 13:07, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Defined the shading, but I think there is enough light on the paws already. 13:58, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

blur/smudge the shading on the back? and try to brighten the paws just a liiiittle bit? <span style="">17:30, 09/6/2014

Re-uploaded. 19:05, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Comments or CBA? 12:03, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading. I know it's there, but it fades out every now and again, and maybe extend the ear pink on --> ear a little more. Also, shrink the white on the tail tip by a couple pixels. I made it pretty small on the kit and that was intentional.

Not if you ask for it, buddy. Comments, yes. Asking for CBA gets your image locked for 24 more hours. <span style="">15:45 Tue Sep 9 2014

lol I know Rae. But it's not wrong to ask with a bit of hope. And I'll get to that stuff a bit later Cloudy. But may I ask, wouldn't the white on the tail extend as Dewpaw grew up? It happens, and I believe it has happened on some other images in similar situations. 19:26, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Asking for comments is okay, but asking for a CBA is not. Also, no, when I tweaked the kit image, I had every intentions of keeping the white the same length, and I don't think it would extend that far down. It's meant to be small, kinda like Ravenpaw.

Re-uploaded. Better? And sorry, my bad.. I didn't know that. 21:54, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to say, but I'm withdrawing. I want to work on something else. Thanks for your time, and good luck to the next person who does this. 20:58, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Featherpaw (A) - For Approval
I did my best. Tigerbird-The-Great 01:03, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Can you darken/define the shading? And tone the earpink down some, it looks a little bright. You can just run the burn tool over it a few times, and that should do the trick. I like those eyes. <span style="">1:13 Fri Sep 5

Smear a bit of the fur into the ears 18:02, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Tigerbird-The-Great 01:19, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge some more fur into the ears. Still looks a bit solid. 04:31, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Oh and define the light on all four paws^^ 19:45, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe lighten she shading just a tick? The stripes are getting a little lost. Nice job! <span style="">9:00 PM, Sat Sep 6, 2014

This is beautiful! I feel so proud right now Define the light on the lower part of the tail, and possibly the shading on the tailtip? 11:39, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Still working? 15:48, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Toadstep (SC) - For Approval
-gross sobbing- My poor baby! Also, I will fix the waste in the next reupload. 19:06, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the fur into the ear a bit more and define the shading a bit 19:08, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Try blurring/smudgning the earpink a bit more. The white on the right paw is higher than on the left paw, and the chest white could do with a bit more blurring plus a bit of defining on the shading. Also, the file should be named Toadstep.star.png. Brick 20:02, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on >>>> paw a bit, too. 20:09, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

The shoulder should be black, not white. Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:24, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the shading a little? Everywhere except for the haunch and face. <span style="">17:43, 09/6/2014 Try making his eyes a bit more pale.

Define the overall shading while your at it.-- 18:52, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Can you blur the white on his chest? It looks a bit hard edged. Poor Toadstep. Tigerbird-The-Great 23:40, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm not changing the design on his paws, because it matches his other chararts,and his design is based off of my real cat, so uneven socks on the paws is realistic. 17:40, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

There's some waste around the image.

Perhaps just make the eyes a tad bit more of a paler green to match his other images, and also either blur or smudge (Whatever they used on his other images) the white parts just a tad. -- 00:57, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Shrewfoot (Star) ~ For Approval
So, heres Shrewfoot. I rushed on the shading; it looks insanely dark, so i will re-do it on the next upload. Comments? 21:39, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

The main part of the shading is pretty good- I'd say it just needs to be blurred a fair bit, and maybe lightened ever so slightly.

Add nosepink unless that was intentional. <span style="">10:16 PM, Fri Sep 5, 2014

there is nosepink its just grey. 01:26, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Blur the shading and lighten it? Poor Shrewfoot, I liked her.--EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:27, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Redid the shading; i just added a red tint, since the black made it look dark. Also, blurred it some more. Better?-- 23:44, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

I think the shading with the black was fine, imho. You could lower the opacity of the black shading... also, blur this shading a lot, please, and lower the opacity of it, as it looks a bit too hardedged. why does everyone diss black shading nowadays???? .-.

Re-uploaded. Uh, i never said i was dissing black shading..? But okay. Blurred shading even more. (I've basically overly blurred this about 20 times) Is that better?-- 03:43, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

I said that, because a lot of people seem to be against shading with black..no matter the pelt color. And since her warrior was shaded with black, I think it's only fair to keep the same coloring, that way you don't get told to change the color. Idk, tint's not required to match, but the shade you've chosen appears to slightly throw off the color. The black didn't make it look too dark, and lowering the opacity probably would have fixed that... Also, define the lighter areas on the paws and tail, and blur the back shading (or whatever we're calling that idk anymore- I'm tired)

The shading is very dark, lighten it a tad? 11:35, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Made shading black again, and lightened it.-- 16:25, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail.

Your light source is off. Either add shading on the <-- end of the haunches and add a shadow on the back for the head or switch the side of the shading on the head and add some to the chest. <span style="">15:57 Tue Sep 9 2014

I see nothing wrong with the light source. I've used this source on all of my Starclanners, and no one has complained before. Unless someone else agrees, i'd rather not change it. I will reupload later for the tail.-- 12:10, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

And I think it's off too. Just because you used it on other images doesn't make it accurate. I get told that all the time. Usually, if Breezey comments, it's something important, and she's not someone you easily disagree with when it comes to chararts- she's a former lead, and a very amazing artist. She knows what she's talking about, and she made these blanks, so she knows the sources possible for this better than anyone, and if she says it's off, it probably is. This "unless someone else agrees" thing has become far too common for the whole of PCA.

Re-uploaded. I just extended her back shading going up the side so the light source would be coming from -->. Also, defined light on the tail and blurred shading some more. Better?-- 23:52, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten it up. It looks too dark for the pelt color. <span style="">0:03 Fri Sep 12

Larkwing (W) ~ CBA
Everyone must face the awesome that is copper eyes and spotted tabbies! Comments? 21:23, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

those pesky shorthaired tails... define the light on the tail? <span style="">23:40, 09/6/2014

re-up defined the shading in some places, too 23:46, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail a bit more??

re-up 00:06, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Tail still needs more light. Also define the shading a tad on the neck. This is gorgeous Beebs :o 12:43, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine - it has plenty of defining of that light, but I'll get to that neck in the next upload. 12:44, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

re-up 12:49, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Is that texture on the creamy-brown? for lack of better definition on the color lol If it is, may you define it a bit? 17:51, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Nope, there's none - and it's pale markings, btw o3o 18:24, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front leg? I love the pattern =)-- 18:53, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

re-up I did both ouo 20:13, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Can you lighten the back shading just a smidge and define the neck shading?

re-up 18:41, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

CBA? 15:45, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Owlwhisker (Star) ~ For Approval
Another StarClanner :3 SziriXxX (talk) 14:41, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading. This is good c: 15:16, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes on his back a bit.--crow!!!! 15:18, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

The stripes don't need to be smudged. They have to match his other images, Crow.

Re-ups Thanks Breezy c: SziriXxX (talk) 17:56, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

Extend the shoulder highlight farther up and add some shading on the bottom of the chest. <span style="">15:54 Tue Sep 9 2014

Re-upsSziriXxX (talk) 19:10, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the stripes just a tad. 17:01, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups SziriXxX (talk) 15:57, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Lilyheart (Alt A) ~ For Approval
She was described as tortoiseshell-and-white in the allegiances of BS, so she gets this, right? <span style="">21:07 Mon Sep 8

Can you brighten up the white just a little bit?

Lighten the tail shading a bit, define the earpink some more, and mind defining the ginger flecks a tad more? They seem pale and not too noticible. This looks nice. 17:04, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks. <span style="">20:44 Wed Sep 10

Brighten the belly white just a bit and this'll be perfect. 15:44, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

I'm scared that if I do that the shading will look flat... <span style="">22:53 Thu Sep 11

Shimmerpelt (Alt. W) ~ CBA
!!! <span style="">9:40 PM, Mon Sep 8, 2014

Remove the waste between the legs and define the shading on both legs that are furthest from us. <span style="">21:45, 09/8/2014

reup <span style="">9:49 PM, Mon Sep 8, 2014

<Small> darn i wanted it… enlarge and blur the ear-pink  22:13, September 8, 2014 (UTC)

the earpink's size is fine to be honest <span style="">22:19, 09/8/2014

I think it's fine as is. <span style="">10:22 PM, Mon Sep 8, 2014

Blur the ear pink, and define the lighter areas. I can't see anything but almost solid black. Try a base of between #191919 and #121212 and see what you get. I can't see the lineart, or anything like that, at all...and coming from me, who loves darker colors on black cats, that's saying something o.O

I can see the lineart just fine... But when I get home I'll blur the earpink a bit more <span style="">11:43 AM, Tue Sep 9, 2014

At least add some highlights or something to brighten up some of the cat a little bit? I've had to do that with my black cats, and I really am having trouble seeing it.

Yeah she's so dark she looks flat. Lighten her a bit. <span style="">15:51 Tue Sep 9 2014

I already added highlights, do you want me to just try to lighten those? As for the base, yes, I will lighten it a couple notches on the lightness scale. Although I can't quite see how she's flat... <span style="">4:02 PM, Tue Sep 9, 2014

She's flat as in shading doesn't show up for her because she's so close to pure black. She looks like she's all one color. You don't need to take it as a personal offense. <span style="">16:07 Tue Sep 9 2014

I was not taking it personally. I was just wondering how it looked flat, I can see the shading, highlights, and base just fine on my computer, but I will lighten it when I get home. <span style="">4:09 PM, Tue Sep 9, 2014

Rocket, different monitors have different color levels, thus showing slightly different results. I know on mine, and on Breezey's, the base can be lightened a few shades- this will more than likely solve your "issue" of the image appearing a tad bit flat. Black cats are my favorite to make, and I know it's not as easy as it seems how to get the shading/highlights/base to work together. You gotta get it juuuuust the right shade in order to work. Otherwise it's slightly too dark, or dark gray.

I get that. Like I said above, I will fix it when I get home. <span style="">4:16 PM, Tue Sep 9, 2014

reup <span style="">7:41 PM, Tue Sep 9, 2014

Lighten it some more, Rocket. I still see solid black. Hm try #333333 that will make the cat much more visible. ;) 17:09, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

It's fine at the darkenss it is. #333333 is much too light and appears dark gray. Dark gray and black are not the same thing. That is a good color for a stable dark gray cat, like Ferncloud's one alt, but for a black cat, it's way too light. Seeing all the lineart is not required, and the pelt she's got now is good.

CBA? 07:02, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Foxleap (Star) - For Approval
I haven't done this in ages. <span style="">5:42 Tue Sep 9 2014

Because its not loading here. <span style="">5:47 Tue Sep 9 2014

This is beautiful O_O. Define the tail shading a tad? 08:56 10 Sep 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="">14:53 Wed Sep 10 2014

Define the shading on the arm closest to us a bit; he's very handsome I liked him why did he have to die? :/ 15:46, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Petalfur (Q) - For Approval
Comments? 18:12, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading 19:48, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Personally I think it's fine. It's rather clear, and defining it any more will make it look too dark. 20:04, September 9, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading and thicken it a bit around the belly and define it on the face and on her lifted forleg. I think there's also some waste on her back 03:24, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading, and I agree with Shinx- I think it could use some definition.

Smudge the earpink into the fur or vice versa. and if you have no clue what vice versa means don't sweat it. It is Latin--I think--literally meaning other way around. It currently looks too neat for a long furred cat. Keep it up! 17:21, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Smudging the ear pink is not required on these blanks. I don't smudge them on mine, and I know a couple others that don't either. Plus, it already looks like Feather smudged it- it's just not extravagant.

Riga (KP) - For Approval
Wee I love black kitties and I probably should choose something other than purple for collar colors but I do not care.

Wee~ Purdy... c: Stretch the ear-pink a touch more and maybe define the light a touch more on the tail 03:26, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Pretty:) lighten the black a shade and define the texture a bit. 17:22, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

As I have already explained on Shimmerpelt, the black is fine as it is. The coloring I've used is approximately the same one Rocket has used, and if it's lightened much more, he will begin to turn dark gray, and they are not the same thing. If you would like me to shift around some highlights or something along that nature, I will, but his base is already light enough (without the texture, it's much too light, hence why I added it) and seeing all lineart is not mandatory or required by PCA. As for the texutre, I do think it's defined enough, and I was actually expecting to get told to smooth it out some, but since texture is not my strong point, I would like to wait for a second opinion on that, just based on the fact some of the other senior users in the project know a fair bit more than you or I do (not calling you inexperienced, just they've been doing it much longer than we have).

The texture gets lost on the tail. Define it a little? <span style="">20:05, 09/10/2014

Re-uploaded.

Squirrelflight (Q) ~ For Approval
still not happy about her being a queen but what can you do 01:07, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the marking a bit more. She's cute c; 04:13, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

re-uploaded thanks man 14:12, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe brighten up the earpink a bit?--crow!!!! 14:37, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

I think the ear pink matches her other images...which that's not very bright to begin with.

Define the shading on the hind leg farthest from us. Very neat!! 17:25, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

re-uploaded i lightened the ear pink slightly, now i wont touch it anymore or it wont be the same colour 06:29, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Whitewing (Queen) - For Approval
hi changes are here

It might just be my phone, but her eyes look blue in this picture, and they should be green. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:02, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Wrong layer was showing, oops.

Gotcha. ^^ Give the eyes more depth, and darken the shading a tiny bit. It looks good. :D Jayie  Unwritten words~ 04:19, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Define the shading on the front legs a tiny bit - she's beaauttiful 16:06, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Define the shading more on the face: like put some shading where her eyes are to define the mouth and nose. And the tail: make the shading curve more to the shape of the tail. Very pretty!! 17:29, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I did not add any shading where her eyes are, since that kind of depth and things of that nature isn't something we have to do. It's optional and I opt not to do it. It's not part of the basic shading- it's there to give some extra shape to the image and people have just been doing it more frequently. I did extend the bottom facial shading a bit, though. Also, the tail shading does curve, but the highlight kinda goofed it up lol.

Can you fix that then? Not only does it not look like it's following the curve of the tail, but it looks like it could possibly need a bit more smudging. Not sure if it's the highlight doing that though. <span style="">21:14, 09/10/2014

Re-uploaded. I had tried to on the previous upload, but I think my layers got mixed up. I just redid the shading.

can you define the shading on the back leg closest to us? 07:01, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Duskfur (Q) ~ For Approval
Changes are here; I have a valid reason for the smudged shading being bad, it's my first ever smudged shading. Comments? 15:50, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Define the stripes a bit more and brighten the yellow in ---> this eye to match the other. Define the eye depth a bit while you're at it. This is very pretty Sorrel!! is it hard? I'm gonna try smudged shading on my next image. 17:33, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

I can't see the pale parts on her tail and belly, and her warrior has them.

Reups I can't really define the pale of the tail much more because of that pesky tail smudged shading. I can attempt to, though - changes be here 15:41, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

I can't see any shading, did you hide one of your layers by mistake? <span style="">8:40 PM, Thu Sep 11, 2014

It is there, I've probably got the opacity too low. I'll define the shading in a bit. 20:56, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Reups there we go, changes should be up soon 21:17, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Dawnpelt (Q) ~ Declined
I love cream-colored kitties c: 21:08, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

The face shading looks a little flat; expand and define the light. 21:19, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 02:11, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

If you're using the light source I think you are, I believe there'd be a spot of light in the cheek shading - but then I'm basing shading a shading placement I got a few months back 15:34, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Um yeah I can see what you mean. I would rather not change it, but if someone really wants me to I will. I just try to make it look like it's there. But yeah I'm not objected to changing it to that, but I don't want if it is not necessary. Edit: and facial shading is a pain in the butt as it is lol 18:31, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Sorrel would be correct. That source does have a highlight/lighter area on the cheek.

Sorry, but this has to be declined, as Dewpaw is still on the page. Wait until your image is archived x.x 19:07, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Okay .-. I'm still gonna keep her reserved though. 19:48, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, you can't. If an image is declined or withdrawn, you have to wait 2 weeks before reclaiming it. <span style="">7:51 PM, Thu Sep 11, 2014

If an image is declined due to the one month limit, then you have to wait. Regardless, once your image is declined, you lose that reservation and are not allowed to re-post it unless you re-reserve it. And your reservations are good for one week and one week only- no exceptions.

Seems reasonable. I'll go re-reserve her. 19:58, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Since Dewpaw has been archived think we can just put this section back up for approval rather than make a new one? Or do we need to archive this one regardless? 02:00, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

I still see Dewpaw on the approval page, and not in the archives. =/ Honestly, when I said you lost your reservation, that means you're not allowed to re-reserve it instantly. You need to work on something else first, then reserve it. That just defeats the purpose of it being declined if you're instantly allowed to have it again. All you did was change the date, which isn't very fair at all. Someone else should be allowed to work on Dawnpelt if they wish before you are allowed to repost. It's clearly said on the top of the page that your image is yours until it is archived.

Okay. .-. 02:05, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Ferretclaw (Alt W) - For Approval
Since this guy had an Alt needing to be done and the description made me think of something, I decided to snatch it up. He was called black and gray, so I gave him a smoke pattern. I'm really really happy with how it turned out. Thoughts? Jayie Unwritten words~ 19:20, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

WOAH DUDE Define the back shading? <span style="">7:52 PM, Thu Sep 11, 2014

Reuploaded, shading has been defined, and ear pink has been added since I realized I forgot about it before. :P Jayie  Unwritten words~ 20:42, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad. Can't really see the texture through it. This is amazing!! 02:02, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

I played around with it a bit. Better? Jayie Unwritten words~ 02:30, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Much better!! ^.^ define the light some on the paws. I know it's difficult to define light on shaded black paws, but if you use something like the highlight on the muzzle, I think it'll blend nicely. 04:47, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Would you mind darkening the black and gray a shade? I think he was called dark gray and black, and this seems to be a bit lighter. If you'd rather not, I'm cool with that, and this is still stunning. *.*

It said on the trivia on his page that he was just gray and black, but I'll darken it a bit, since it was probably a simplification. :) And thanks! Jayie  Unwritten words~ 04:58, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind, I confused him with Heronwing, apologies. I still think the black could be darkened just a bit, though. He was called just gray and black, my bad. x.x

Wait, do you want the black or the gray darkened? And cool. ^^ Jayie  Unwritten words~ 05:04, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

The black. However, I think darkening the leg shading might do the same thing. I'm sorry if I'm making no sense, I'm so tired

Nah, it's alright, I see what you mean. ^^ I'll see how dark I can push the black, and play around with the leg shading. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:10, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:16, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Sedgewhisker (Q) - For Approval
meh 04:37, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading more, especially on the face and belly. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:43, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

I think the belly shading is good, but perhaps define the shading on the front legs?

Match > this eye to the other please. I see what you tried to do but it looks a bit odd. If you shade < sides of the eyes you'll get the same effect you're looking for and still have the color match. This is beautiful, Scar!! 04:57, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

And it looks a bit cross-eyed. Maybe try moving >>>> pupil around? Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:21, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Crouchfoot (Ki) ~ For Approval
i hate kits <span style="">05:46 Fri Sep 12