Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

Family Tree Unnamed Parents
Okay I'm not sure if it's just one user or something, but someone keeps changing unnamed parents from male and female to both unknown genders. A discussion about it should have been brought up first. So for now, all changes should be reverted until this discussion is finished.

Anyways, why does their genders have to be not known? It's physically impossible to have two mothers or two fathers (the family trees display genetic relations, not fosters) I'm not anti anything, it's just that the family trees show genetic relations. And yes I'm aware of the fact there is transgenders, but really without medical intervention (by Twolegs, nonetheless) it's physically impossible for cats to switch genders. They are not a species that do this.

So, the discussion is should unnamed/unknown parents be listed as male and female, or both unnamed?Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  21:46, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

these cats aren't just cats, they're essentially little furry humans (wasn't that said by an author too or am I just imagining things). gender isn't tied to yr parts, anyway. say there was an actual trans cat in the series (I wish...) wouldn't it be pretty crappy to call them male despite what they're presenting as. all in all I don't see how listing them as grey boxes is really that much of an issue, and in any case we could at least remove the unmentioned, not referenced at all parents (say fallowsong and sweetbriar's parents) to avoid at least some of this.

and I don't think it's purely genetical anyway? when was that even decided? some of those trees do indeed show foster kits. or at least they used to, anyway. (i think i remmeber brokenstar being on lizardstripes idk) 22:05, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

I say we remove uncited/non mentioned parents from the family templates, definitely.

Don't really have a set opinion on the other part. I do think it's reasonable to say every cat has a mother ('cause I mean, cats gotta get born somehow), but listing as a gray box anyway wouldn't be too much of an issue. I know that people can identify as something without physical alteration, so, one could switch genders without that still. though, I really doubt it'll actually ever get confirmed into the series, because of harpercollins

Honestly, we already use an unspecified gender for character articles, so if you ask me, it's fine with me just keeping it how it was changed to. (which tbh I will revert any and all changes to he/she instead of they lmao) They've been said to be little, furry humans by the authors multiple times, so in all honesty, it's actually better and not an assumption to keep the gender as unknown. Also Stealth, do not revert them. They are perfectly fine as they are and don't contradict any cited information. =/

I just think it should have been discussed first before making sudden changes is all. But yes I do agree that removing those parents that are never actually mentioned in the books is good. It'll at the very least make family trees coding and tweaking a little easier.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  08:26, May 24, 2017 (UTC)

Comments?Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  03:56, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

Okay we will keep them as gray boxes. What about removing unknown parents? The ones that are on trees just to complete them but are never mentioned in books? Like Flashnose's and Daisytoe's parents, or Sweetbriar's and Fallowsong's parents. Or unnamed mates? Like Flashnose's mate or Frostfur's mate.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  06:44, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

I don't think we can remove the totally unknown mates without it looking weird, unless someone wants to alter the entire tree ig. as for the parents, is it possible to use the 'missing generations' thing maybe like what was done for cloudstars descendants or something? 15:31, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, not too sure about that. I've done a couple of trees with most mates gone, and it doesn't look too bad. I can only suggest for like Flashnose's and Daisytoe's parents that it is a single gray Unknown instead of two Unknowns. But yeah, I do think yours is a good suggestion if the missing mates are too weird.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  04:08, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

if that could be done with every tree without it being too much of a hassle, I'd definitely go fo it. I'd be happy with the one grey unknown too. 04:37, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

Foster Family Tree
So I think someone mentioned above we used to display foster family relations on trees. I'm wondering if we want to try to do that again. I'm pondering the different options on doing this, but I do believe it is possible for every character with a foster relation. So, what does everyone think?Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  06:11, May 30, 2017 (UTC)

Would it be a whole different tree or will it be added on the orginal tree? 02:21, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

That's part of this discussion.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:41, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

It would be more reasonable to make to separate trees, since there's situations were there's only one foster parent and it would be a little weird to have a stray boxes (the ones with the names in it) floating around, if you get what I'm saying. 02:45, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

I'm alright with it, but it does need to have already been cited on their articles first. Like, Lilyheart is Violetpaw's foster mother when she came to ThunderClan initially, but Snowbush wasn't their foster father, since there's nothing stating that nor did we see it in the books.

I did test family trees of Thunderstar foster family. A separate tree does seem to be best. (especially since I cannot figure out how to do those special dotted line that Brokenstar once had on Runningnose's tree :/) It'll be good if we are doing separate foster trees to put the different trees under different subheadings, like " ====Genetic Tree==== " and " ====Foster Tree==== "<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  06:48, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

Anymore comments?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:00, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

Shell Claw ~ Silver Nomination
Credits to those who worked on it before me didn't do a single thing.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  07:03, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

Comments before the vote?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  10:14, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

July FA
^<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  10:14, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

How about Snowfur? I remember her being suggested for the June FA.

I think Snowfur would be good^^

Snowfur's a good idea.

She'll be good. 19:05, June 13, 2017 (UTC)