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Littlebird (Star) - For Approval
probably my first tabby I ever did that I actually liked. colors are pulled off of the original file. comments? 19:24, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

I'm gonna take a guess that you smudged the shading? If you did, thin the smudges out a little bit, and if you didn't, blur the shading/smooth it out. Also her elder looks kinda shiny so I suggest maybe fixing that sooner or later since that shading makes this look different in terms of color.

Add depth to the shading. This is gorgeous. 20:27 Sun Aug 17

Oh myyyyy, this is beautiful! Define the face shading a tad? ~ Shinx Blitz |undefined  and  Melody  22:17, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

re-uploaded thanks dudes! 02:38, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

She's beautiful, Ducky! :D Define the earpink a little more..it seems to disappear with the fur colors. Also blur the smudged shading some more. 17:46, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

re-uploaded 18:04, August 23, 2014 (UTC)

I think the smudges on the shading are a little too thick.

Re-uploaded' 02:49, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the smudged shading some more. Especially around the chest and on the body, and on <--- this paw/leg. It seems a bit thick still and can't really see the stripes through it. Also, the earpink seems to disappear in <--- this ear. The shading is a little too dark there for such pale pink. Also, we could be seeing an old image. May you provide a link to a photo viewer like ezimba or whatever, just in case changes might not be showing? 13:42, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

re-uploaded redid that shadin 16:33, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Define the leg shading? 22:46, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

define the shading everywhere except the haunch, actually. 00:19, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Duskfur (Queen) ~ Withdrawn
Since Snow withdrew this, i gave it a shot since she needed a Queen image. I tried to match the stripes the best i could. Colorpicked from her Warrior image, i used a redish tint for the shading. Also, that stripe on the tail is part of the dorsal stripe. Comments? ~ Breezey ~  Gaara Forever ♥☻  00:58, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

Her dorsal stripe should be sorta more to the left on her tail, and same with the back because of the perspective. Brick 10:20, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

I can't see the pale part on her tail, and I'm also agreeing with Brick. ^^

'''Re-uploaded. '''I just decided to redo the stripes. Moved dorsal stripe to the left, and made pale parts look more visible. Is that better? ~ Breezey ~  Gaara Forever ♥☻  02:04, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

I still can't see the pale part of the tail, what color did you use? 7:05 PM, Wed Aug 20, 2014

I color picked it from her warrior image. Its the shading making it not visible; if i make it even more defined, you wont be able to see the shading. =/-- ~ Breezey ~    Gaara Forever ♥☻  19:30, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe swith around the light source? I'm assuming you're using a lightsource coming from the top right, so mayve try bottom left so -> of her head would be in shadow? 7:33 PM, Wed Aug 20, 2014

I think switching the source would be a good idea for this image. Give it a shot and see what happens.

Re-uploaded. Switched the light source; Ive never used this angle as the light source before, so i tried to make it look the best i could. Is that better? =)-- ~ Breezey ~    Gaara Forever ♥☻  05:53, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

Hm would you smudge the underbelly fur into the rest of the fur just a little, not too much, but just so it'd blend and look a little more natural? Very pretty! :) 11:51, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

I'd rather not, since on her other image, it looks like the OA blurred it instead of smudging, but i will if someone else agrees.-- ~ Breezey ~    Gaara Forever ♥☻  04:35, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge it. It'll look a bit more furry that way. 4:58 PM, Sat Aug 23, 2014

Re-uploaded. Smudged pale parts, and also lightened the fur a bit to match her other images. Better?-- ~ Breezey ~    Gaara Forever ♥☻  03:31, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

Add some shading on the belly? It looks kinda flat.. 13:39, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

There is no shading on the belly. I was told to switch the lightsource so the pale parts were more visible. So I would rather not, unless someone else agrees.-- ~ Breezey ~    Gaara Forever ♥☻  20:29, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe add a small curve so the light looks like it's coming from behind? To me, it looks fine, this is only a suggestion. 9:34 PM, Sun Aug 24, 2014

Re-uploaded. Added small curve of shading. Better?-- ~ Breezey ~    Gaara Forever ♥☻  00:26, August 25, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and give it more shape. Nutmeg (the one below this section) appears to have the same basic source (if I'm seeing Jayie's shading correctly), so perhaps you could try that? This appears to be one giant dark line along her back.

Re-uploaded. I just decided to redo the stripes and shading. I tried my best to make the stripes resemble her Warrior image more by moving them closer together, and i moved her dorsal stripe so that it was more in the center of her back/tail. I used a red tint this time; so you should be able to see through it now. Is that better? =/--<span style="color: blue;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background: black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: Blue;"> ~ Breezey ~    Gaara Forever ♥☻  09:51, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Smear the fur into her ears a bit. 20:53, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.--<span style="color: blue;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background: black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: Blue;"> ~ Breezey ~    Gaara Forever ♥☻  09:19, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Try darkening the stripes some. 15:43, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Darkened stripes.--<span style="color: blue;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background: black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: Blue;"> ~ Breezey ~    Gaara Forever ♥☻  15:50, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Try sharpening the stripes more. 14:55, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Can i withdraw this? I dont really have time to work on it anymore. I'd rather work on other things, aswell.-- 21:01, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Crowfrost (D) - For Approval
#Crowfrostforleader2015 Brick  07:36, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

this has to match his warrior image. 09:46, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

It looks like the white parts are blurred on his Warrior image.. it looks like you smudged it here; so to make it match, maybe blur them instead? Also, the white on the tail looks really gray.<span style="color: blue;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background: black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: Blue;"> ~ Breezey ~  Gaara Forever ♥☻  09:55, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, http://i60.tinypic.com/15e9tuf.png, oops! I didn't know he had a Warrior Image. When I made the image, there was no warrior image on his page, so I thought he didn't have one. My mistake -w-' Brick  14:57, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

I'd think some of the white on his one paw (back front paw lol) would show up on this blank.

Define the light on his legs 15:54, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on his tail too. You might also want to think about lightening the shading on the white part of the tail by just using the eraser tool with a lower opacity. 01:37, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, http://i60.tinypic.com/2eposnr.png The wiki still isn't showing changes, so you'll have to go on the link to see the changes. :/ Brick  15:13, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

His warrior charart has green eyes. <span style="">9:38 PM, Thu Aug 28, 2014

They are green on this one. <span style="">2:00 Fri Aug 29

Dull the haunch highlight and darken him just a touch. Also brighten the ear pink, and please crop the image. There's too much extra space.

The tail white seems a bit gray 20:07, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Idk he still looks like he's blue eyed zooming in on the image itself. ;-; <span style="">8:23 PM, Fri Aug 29, 2014

I'll reupload tomorrow as it's quite late over here, but I just wanted to say. Please stop commenting on the tail white because, he doesn't have tail white. The image shown on the wikia right now, is what I made before I saw he had a warrior image. Like I said, please please please check the Tinypic links, because the wikia rarely accepts my re-ups, so please just check the links before you comment. Brick  21:31, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Okay then jeez. <span style="">7:20 PM, Sat Aug 30, 2014

Re-ups, http://i60.tinypic.com/2ronz28.png, The wiki still isn't showing the version done from the warrior's image pattern, so please remember to check the tinypic link. I didn't crop the image, because I saved the blank directly, so it shouldn't need to be cropeed. plus, there wasn't actually much for me to crop. Brick  19:57, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

There's way too much extra space to the left of the charart. I know you saved the blank directly, but they still have loads of extra space. Please crop the image so there's no extra space to the left to the lineart- there's no need to keep all the extra space.

Re-ups, http://i59.tinypic.com/2i12sso.png Brick   09:17, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Are you uploading to Wikia as well??? The file history shows you uploaded on the 30th, but not when you said you just reuploaded.

I'm pretty sure I was? I just reuploaded it again so hopefully it should show up. EDIT: oh joy changes are actually showing now. Dunno why they weren't before, pretty sure I was reuploading the file to the wikia. :/ Brick   08:54, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

define the shading on the hind paws a bit? <span style="">23:56, 09/3/2014

re-ups, http://i62.tinypic.com/2n6tfnt.png Brick   09:49, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

On his warrior I think there is a very faint texture on the black. Add it in, but lower the opacity of the layer until you can barely see it. <span style="">1:20 Fri Sep 5

Stormcloud (KP) ~ For Approval
Is it possible for me to get the whole set later? I already have the others finished, I just need this approved. <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  15:52, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his hip a bit, and define the earpink, it's hard to see. Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:07, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

For the hundrenth time, my shading is always smudged . AKA no, I won't blur it. Re-upped for earpink tho. <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  23:02, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Can you smudge the shading some more? <span style="">23:31 Tue Aug 26 23:31, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Tbh, I can't tell it's smudged, and I would have made the same mistake Jayie did. Don't get snippy- it's honestly hard to see that it's smudged shading. Also, what's up with the tail stripes? I can't tell they're there because of the shading.

..Did I come across as rude? I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention V_V Anyway, the tail stripes are rings. Should I make them more visible? <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  00:03, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Could you please, Shinx? That would be lovely. ^.^

Lighten the ear pink a bit, or at least make it more visible. Also, he kind of looks blind with the eyes so dull like that...perhaps lighten them up or sumtin'.... 01:34, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Define the eye depth while you're lightening his eyes. Also, even though the shading is smudged it still looks way too dark and awkward on this cat so if you would please blur it down some that'd be nice. You'll see if you go up and look at Littlebird, me and Cloudy(Jayce) I'm old lol were telling Ducksplash the same thing. 14:32, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups I'm sorry, but no, I won't blur it. I tried just now, it makes it look strange to me. I can lighten it if you want, or change to blurred shading (which I'd rather not do if I don't have to), or put a layer of blurred shading on top, but I can't blur the shading that's already smudged. <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  14:49, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, why not try both methods that you just suggested, and upload them to tinypic or something, and let me see what each version looks like?

http://i60.tinypic.com/qn5mo0.png http://i60.tinypic.com/15heo3m.png Here ya go. <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  22:28, August 27, 2014 (UTC)

I like the first link better personally. 00:10, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

That's the blurred shading, and again, I REALLY don't want to switch to it if I don't have to. If more then one person tells me to, I guess I can do it, but I don't like using blurred shading much. <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  09:58, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

I think if you just smudge it more itll turn out right. 10:00, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Re-upped Smudged the shading more, and added a bit of texture. I can remove it if you want. <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  15:00, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

The shading is very odd please expand it, blur it, and then define it to soften it. (protip: you can both smudge and blur shading wow) <span style="">21:29 Fri Aug 29 2014

I'll go define it and stuff, but as I said before (read up a bit), I've tried blurring it, it looks strange. o_o <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  21:36, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Then try a different tint, or even black, if you're not using it. Still trying to figure out what people have against using black shading; I like it. Changing what you're shading with can have amazing results.

Reups Redid the shading. It was black to begin with. <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  15:28, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Since we don't have a specific shade of gray for him, would you mind making him a more neutral shade of gray? You don't have to go much darker, but perhaps try between #C1C1C1 and #A1A1A1?

Re-upped 16:06, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware this is artist's choice, but could you lighten up the shading a bit? It looks a tad too dark. Also, define the eye depth. 14:56, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

It's only artist's choice when it's not obnoxiously dark, making the pattern hard to see, ect. You're allowed to ask someone to lighten the shading- artist's choice is nonsense sometimes, and only applies to smaller things.

The shading is fine. I can see the patter clearly, so imo, it doesn't need to be lightned. <span style="">00:00, 09/4/2014

Well, I'm having issues seeing parts of it, and I think lowering the opacity...maybe between 5 and 15 percent (depends on how you have your shading and stuff) on the bar would possibly do the trick. Try around 15 at first, and if that's a bit too much, go back to what you had, and then lower it by, say, 11 or 12, and then keep doing the same thing.

Re-upp(ing, my internet's taking forever to load it)ed I kinda like dark shading, but yeah, it did need lightening. 15:03, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Dapplenose (Star) ~ For Approval
I luv StarClan blanks :3

Btw this is my first mottled kitty SziriXxX (talk) 11:17, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the paws and tail. Beautiful job! <span style="">3:28 PM, Thu Aug 28, 2014

re-ups Thank you :3 SziriXxX (talk) 18:33, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the stomach shading some. This is pretty :3 20:04, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

re-ups :3 SziriXxX (talk) 21:15, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten the face shading a bit? <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  17:40, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

re-ups SziriXxX (talk) 20:14, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Define the chest shading. This is looking really pretty ^^

re-ups Thanks^^ SziriXxX (talk) 11:46, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Add a tiny highlight on the chest area. With the light source you have, if it's on the >>>> paw, then there should be a little highlight on the chest area. <span style="">1:17 Fri Sep 5

re-ups http://www.ezimba.com/work/140906C/ezimba12232511185000.png SziriXxX (talk) 13:29, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Scarlet (KP) - For Approval
meh kitteh c: 03:57, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Define the earpink. Purrty c: 06:20, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

You wouldn't mind shrinking the shoulder high light a bit? its a bit too big right now. <span style="">21:23 Fri Aug 29 2014

Re-uploaded 02:09, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Define the ear pink a bit more? Yay, Scarly got Scarlet after all ^^

Re-uploaded I wanted her to be a bit more… scarlety… changes 03:22, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Define the collar shading. And maybe a bit more depth to the rest of the shading. Looks pretty:) 13:54, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:08, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Grasspaw (A) ~ For Approval
Another pale brown tabby. :3 Added a thin texture.

Add some light to the far back paw, and possibly the back? I think there would probably be some light there with your source. (If you don't use highlights, ignore me.)) <font color="#1B6D96">~ <span style="color:Blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:Red;border:4px ridge; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: #000000;">Shinx Blitz  and  Melody  15:24, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up ~ Added some highlights on the paw and a bit on the end of her back.

Can you define the ear pink on > side just a bit? 19:54, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Could you make her look a bit less green-ish. Tinting your shading brown/red might work. Also, for pale brown cats, I tend to use #9c6442 as a nice pale brown shade, but that's totally up to you if you want to do that. 01:58, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up ~ Defined the ear pink by removing a little bit of the shading, and made the shading brownish. :3

Earpink still needs to be define in the ---> ear. Looking good:) 13:56, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Try shifting your earpink layer around a bit... <span style="">7:49 PM, Thu Sep 4, 2014

Re-up ~ Defined the ear pink a bit again. :3 Sorry for being late, school is starting again and I'm busy with my own wiki. And what do you mean with shifting the earpink layer around?

Dustpelt (Star) - For Approval
I've always had a soft spot for him, so I grabbed him up. Comments? — <font color= black face="courier new">☣ <font color= black face="courier new">D <font color= black face="courier new">iablo  <font color= black face="courier new">You must be <font color= black face="courier new">Mr. Boggins! <span style="">Sat Aug 30 06:51

Thicken a couple of the stripes by a pixel or two, like they are on the app and warrior. I'm so happy he gets to be with Ferncloud again ;-;

reups same here dude — <span style="">Mon Sep 1 05:42

Thin out the stripe on the tail? It looks thick compared to his thin dorsal stripe. This looks great =)-- 04:03, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Just a teeny bit lighter around the face.--Crowpool (talk) 13:41, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

The face shading looks fine, imho. With this source, there would only be light on <-- of the face, the other half would be in shading. And i can see both clearly, so they look fine as-is. Anyway, perhaps define the shading a bit on his tail? This looks great, either way. =)-- 20:59, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

I think the shading is fine. <span style="">1:09 Fri Sep 5

I'm so happy for him too:). um shift this <--- pupil very slightly to our right a bit. It seems a little off in comparison to the right pupil. 01:37, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Icecloud (Star) ~ For Approval
why Erins why?? rest in peace, my dear. 19:23, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch. 19:24, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Can you also blur the paw shading? 20:27, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Reups 01:28, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

If you're using the source I think you are, there wouldn't be any shading on the arm to the right of the lineart seen here. Also, brighten up the white on --> leg and perhaps add a chest highlight if you're comfortable doing that. Yeah, really, why did they kill her?

Reups like this? 23:04, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot the chest highlight. I'll have it up soon. 08:55, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Reups there we go; changes 11:52, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the back/belly/whatever shading that is, and define the light on the chest a lot more.

Needs a more "sleek and glossy" pelt. Refer to images of Briarlight.--Crowpool (talk) 13:43, September 4, 2014 (UTC)--Crowpool (talk) 13:43, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Um fur shine isn't shown on Briar's images and we don't show things like that anyway on chararts, so I'm not going to change it. 14:27, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Reups changes alrighty I'm not gonna blur the flank shading anymore because otherwise I'll be told to sharpen or define it. 18:13, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Just a little bit more?? I see nothing wrong with blurring it a bit more.

Reups changes this should be about enough 18:01, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Blackstar (Star) - For Approval
-many tears shed- Comments? -Feather 20:11, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Update- removed some waste. -Feather 20:19, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

The shading is really awesome, love it, although could you give more shape to the chest and the back? 21:28, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the earpink a bit more. Also, can you define the chest and tail shading a bit? oh my starclan my little baby died ;-;    Brick  21:52, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

His paws aren't that smudged on his other images.

Re-uploaded.

Doesn't he need scars and patchy fur?It never said that he "repaired" when he went to Starclan. SziriXxX (talk) 14:44, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

It states here that StarClan cats recover from their wounds.

Oh,i didn't noticed that :) SziriXxX (talk) 15:24, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't he still have a patchy pelt though? Patchy fur isn't necessarily a wound, and I haven't seen any confirmation that cats go to StarClan in their best appearance, just with healed wounds. Brick 09:22, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

I have no problem adding patchy fur in, but I honestly think StarClan cats would be rid of it. 09:47, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

It appears that he hasn't had the patchy fur all of his life, so I think it's fine. <span style="">1:26 PM, Mon Sep 1, 2014

It's considered a "wound", or something detrimental to the character, and most patchy fur is caused by fighting. I say it's fine as it is.

Define tail and facial shading (and belly unless it's intentional.) <span style="">10:51 PM, Mon Sep 1, 2014

Even if it's intentionally like that, I can't see it, Rocket. So, Fez, dearest, define the belly shading as well. <span style="">02:23, 09/2/2014

Re-uploaded. 17:14, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Define it a liiiitle more? <span style="">20:16, 09/4/2014

Jessy (KP) ~ For Approval
Alright, I'm not sure how satisfied I am with this, but...comments? 21:17, August 30, 2014 (UTC)

Define the eye depth and define the light on the tail 01:30, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 01:43, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps make the eyes brighter? They seem rather dull.

Re-uploaded Decided to redo the eyes entirely. 23:07, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

The pupils look slightly... derped. They look like their going off slightly in different directions. Brick 13:58, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

They look fine to me, but if someone else agrees with you, I'll change them. 14:02, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe just move one pupil one pixel over. <span style="">14:14 Mon Sep 1

Please don't use "derp" like that, Trunktail. Some could consider that offensive, and offending people is the last thing we aim to do. Using "cross-eyed" or another term like that, is preferred.

Re-uploaded. Changed the style around completely- hopefully this looks better. 21:05, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

define the head shading a tad? 00:07, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:21, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Looks a little green... Try tinting the shading red-brown/red? <span style="">22:26, 09/2/2014

She doesn't look green to me. The shading appears to be tinted a dark brown.

Oatpaw (WC) (App) - For Approval
So freaking happy with this. Thoughts? Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:56, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

define and blur the shading a little. 00:10, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

I can se the shading everywhere but the face and tail needs defining. <span style="">02:24, 09/2/2014

Nah, I think the overall shading could be defined a bit, and the paw/leg shading too for all four feets. ;D

Morningflower (Q) ~ For Approval
This should keep me busy for some time. Comments? 01:34, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Looking at the other images, I think the lighter parts should be a bit smaller, and the markings blurred more, but other than that it looks really good. :) I really like the shading. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 03:01, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Which lighter parts are you talking about? The white or the pale markings? 03:04, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

The pale markings, sorry. Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:05, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

re-up 14:23, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the markings more. Jayie Unwritten words~ 17:34, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

re-up 17:38, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Blur those markings even more- they appear blend a bit more on the elder.

re-up 16:15, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

A bit more light around the head and rump--Crowpool (talk) 13:44, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

With this light source, there wouldn't be as much light, Crow, so I think it's fine. (btw, your comment should be under mine, next time.) 18:13, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tortoiseshell some. It's fine on the white parts. This is beautiful. <span style="">1:07 Fri Sep 5

re-up  18:54, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Ivytail (SC) (Q) - For Approval
Since I didn't realize that Lilystem's alt wasn't relevant anyore and it got declined, I decided to do Ivytail instead. Thoughts? Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:45, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Can you make the brown on her back a tad darker to match the other images? 15:15, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

The white looks really gray on the tail, and it looks like it could be blurred just a tad bit more. Nice job =)<span style="color: blue;font-family: Monotype Corsiva; background: black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color: Blue;"> ~ Breezey ~  Gaara Forever ♥☻  15:16, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The Wiki's being a pain and won't show the updates, so here are the changes: http://www.ezimba.com/work/140901C/ezimba13931847181500.png Jayie  Unwritten words~ 18:52, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Blur and/or smudge the facial shading.

A bit more tortoiseshell markings on her face. 09:45, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Crowpool, what does that even mean? The markings on her face look fine to me.

Crowpool, the image has to match her other image. Her face is fine imho. <span style="">8:29 PM, Thu Sep 4, 2014

Blur the overall shading. And I'm agreeing with Cloudy blur the shading on her face. 12:47, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Spikepaw (A) ~ For Approval
I'm on a roll. First time I've been happy with texture. Comments? 21:15, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the fur into the earpink a bit more. 04:00, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 20:08, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on all four paws. Looks pretty! 01:27, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Is that supposed to be texture? I can't tell, and it fades into the shading. Could you define that a lot?

Reuploaded. 01:40, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Perchpaw (A) ~ For Approval
As one is completed, another steps up. I took what I learned from Harespring's deputy and swirled the patches, but that can be removed and simply blurred instead. Also, the odd eyes, yes, it was intentional, if someone asks me to remove them like a SW then I will I couldn't figure out what color to do, I may go with green or amber if I'm asked to choose one color. <span style="">10:49 PM, Mon Sep 1, 2014

It's perfectly fine, as long as it's not overdone. Anyways, try switching your reserve - it should be September 1st, not August 25th. I'll let it slide so you'll change it this time, but next time, it'll get auto-declined. 22:51, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

smacks head D'oh! I thought I was forgetting something... thanks Beebly <span style="">10:57 PM, Mon Sep 1, 2014

As for actual critique, try smudging the patches more, and the white is looking gray here. 23:00, September 1, 2014 (UTC)

reup I may just re-do the patches, I thought that they would look a bit better... <span style="">11:31 PM, Mon Sep 1, 2014

changes here if wikia = derp <span style="">11:32 PM, Mon Sep 1, 2014

Looking nice! Maybe define the shading on the hind paw furthest from us. <span style="">02:28, 09/2/2014

reup changes. thanks ferk <span style="">8:01 PM, Tue Sep 2, 2014

Leads aren't the only ones who can tell you that something is or isn't allowed on an image, you nerd. All we do is archive and CBA and stuff. Make the white whiter, please.

reup Tried non tinted shading, I think it helped. <span style="">11:02 PM, Tue Sep 2, 2014

White's still looking pretty gray, imho.

Heronwing (W) - For Approval
did this while learning how to use photoshop... so many different struggles. <span style="">01:58, 09/2/2014

Define the overall shading.-- 04:00, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Shading is fine, imho, or at least on the main body. I think the legs could use a bit of light, and please crop the image to the lineart.

totally forgot to resize it after tweaking it I gave him short fur at first bc I forgot he was a RC cat so it was a pain in the toosh to tweak that when I had no knowledge of PS... oops. Anyway, reuploaded <span style="">04:31, 09/2/2014

The texture fades into the shading.

reups <span style="">21:08, 09/2/2014

It's still fading into the shading. Is your shading black on this, or is it tinted?

reup tint wouldn't work then i screwed up the texture so i just redid it. <span style="">20:15, 09/3/2014

Can you define the shading on the legs and flank some? I love this. <span style="">1:05 Fri Sep 5

Snowpaw (OTS) (A) ~ For Evaluation
First charart, so it's not brilliant. Colourpicked from his kit image. Not entirely sure how Evaluation differs from Approval, but it's to do with being a kit. So, evaluation? EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:11, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Remove the waste around the charart and blur the shading on the tail and back leg a tiny bit more. This is good ofr a first charart c: 10:32, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Is that better? Does it still need more blurring? EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:49, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading and add more around the haunch. 14:07, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes aren't showing yet but I'll do another re-up of they don't in the next few minutes. EosOfTheDawn (talk) 14:47, September 2, 2014 (UTC)

I fixed the charart alignment for you. Define the shading slightly? Good job on your first charart. <span style="">8:03 PM, Tue Sep 2, 2014

Blur the shading- also you don't need to mention fixing the charart alignment, just do it. =P

Re-uploaded Wiki's not showing the changes so look here: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2me7g3p&s=8#.VAbt39tQAVY --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 10:28, September 3, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten up that shading just a tick and define it (put a layer over it on the edges and blur is slightly less but set the layer opacity to the same as the original shading.} <span style="">8:16 PM, Wed Sep 3, 2014

Also if you use gimp I recommend the airbrush for your shading. That way it puts on a nice layer that is easily manageable and you can darken or lighten it to your liking. ;) nice job! 12:44, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips! Is this better? I think it might still be too dark: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=f1xreu&s=8#.VAi29NtQAVY --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 18:57, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe another tick of two on the opacity layer for all of your shading. Looking nice, Eos. <span style="">7:46 PM, Thu Sep 4, 2014

Thanks! changes http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=aebrqb&s=8#.VAmlldtQAVY --EosOfTheDawn (talk) 11:56, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Lakeheart (W) ~ For Approval
Beep beep. Comments? 00:17, September 3, 2014 (UTC)

Can you lower the opacity/darken the pale parts just a bit? It looks almost white.

re-up 00:39, September 3, 2014 (UTC)

Define the ear pink; I have to squint and put the laptop super close to my face in order to see it. Also, define the light on the tail.

re-up 18:32, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Seedpaw (Star) - For Approval
Shading's smudged, not blurred. So, if you're gonna tell me to blur it, I suggest perhaps coming up with another idea instead. I asked Breezey, and she said this was a good color to use for golden-brown..

The image looks a bit flat so add some highlights. And i don't know what is up with this whole smudged shading fad but just so you all know it is not realistic. When I look around my bedroom in the morning like right now, all I see is a light shading(blurred shading). So I think we shouldn't allow it. It doesn't make the image look good at all. Makes it look rough and like really dark and it is screaming to be blurred. So I propose we set out to make sure there is no more of the unrealistic smudged shading so we don't end up look like kits who don't know a thing about charart. So yeah it needs to be blurred really badly. Keep it up. ._. 12:39, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

hey guess what. highlights arent mandatory and neither is blurring the shading so get the hell over it and dont be a dick about it. 12:59, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

I had several people read that and they said it wasn't rude just stating an opinion. I actually found your comment was really incredibly rude and hurtful. 13:06, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

and i found yours really rude. im not here to be nice. 13:07, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Well we have something in common. I'm done commenting on this pointless conversation. But it does look a little flat, Cloudy, so you do what you know to make it not. 13:29, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

As the artist, I found your comment rude. For that, I am rejecting your comment, due to the rudeness and extremely offensive nature of it. I am not a kit who doesn't know how to charart, I am the deputy, who has more images to their name than most of the project, and I've been here since 2010. You are being rude, and you need to learn the difference between that an an opinion. And I don't think it looks flat at all.

I never said you were a kit. I was not being rude. I was commenting on smudged shading entirely. And you just have a defensive nature towards me because you think that's all I'm capable of doing is being rude. It wasn't rude. Which is the reason you never say my art looks good or that I'm doing a good job when I'm freaking out and need some motivation. I ask for forgiveness. I am going through an extremely stressful time and I may have been rude. But I don't think I was. 13:40, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

You were being rude, and I am not forgiving you. Please do not comment on Seedpaw any further. I do not want your comments if they are going to insult not only me, but PCA as a whole.

Exactly, Snowman. Frost, I'd recommend that you chose your words more carefully in future, as this isn't the first time that there's been a disagreement including you. It does not make it look 'rough', and smudged shading is not a nuisance that needs to be ridded of. If you have an opinion about shading,  either take it to the talk page where it belongs or keep it to yourself. It also does not make us 'look like kits who don't know a thing about chararts', that is extraordinary offensive and it isn't true at all. ._. And, just in case you or anyone sees all this anger targeted at and  unfair toward Frost - Trolly, I'd just use a less insulting word like you used back there, as I think it added fuel to the fire. And smudged shading is perfectly fine - it doesn't look unnatural, and whether the shading is blurred or smudged is up to the user, as both are completely fine. As for this beautiful image, I think there's shading leaking off the lineart on our right leg and an area above it, unless it's meant to be that way. 14:26, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

The lineart on the eyes looks a bit wonky, and maybe add some depth to the eyes. It looks good. :) Jayie  Unwritten words~ 14:46, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Not really necessary, but MAYBE add a bit more shading to the back? I concur with Jayie, this looks good! 17:17, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Sorrel, where? I'm sorry, but I can't see what you're talking about. Mind showing me where?

Dewpaw (A) ~ For Approval
Mrrow this was fun. :3 12:28, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Brighten the white and extend it all the way up the neck. That's what I did with the kit..

Define what you mean by "extend" because I made sure the white was on the neck exactly how it was done on the kit. But I could be a little off. 21:34, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

The white should be extended all the way up the shoulders, exactly like what Sorrel did for Havenpaw.

Re-uploaded. Brightened the white up a bit, and extended the white over the shoulder. Can't brighten the white up too much because of shading..sorry it's the only way I know how to shade apprentices. Hope it's what you were looking for..and any tips you can provide to help me, Cloudy, are always welcome if you think I'm currently sucking this up. xD 22:28, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, perhaps try something like this? The white seems a tad bit overblurred, and if you have to redo it, take your time and follow what I linked.

Re-uploaded. I ended up redoing the image. Took my time and followed what you linked. I must say I'm pleased with the results. Thanks, Cloudy. =3 EDIT: I also tried a different source so I hope it looks alright. 23:16, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Graystripe (E) ~ For Approval
Nope. No way. <span style="">0:10 Fri Sep 5

Define the light on his paws. This looks really good! 13:32, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Featherpaw (A) - For Approval
I did my best. Tigerbird-The-Great 01:03, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Can you darken/define the shading? And tone the earpink down some, it looks a little bright. You can just run the burn tool over it a few times, and that should do the trick. I like those eyes. <span style="">1:13 Fri Sep 5

Smear a bit of the fur into the ears 18:02, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Sandstorm (E) ~ For Approval
13:04, September 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Try just making her tail a little less thick.--Crowpool (talk) 13:06, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

??? whats that supposed to mean im not allowed to edit lineart unless their description calls for it. 13:09, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little more pink, they're looking purple. Looks pretty! 13:34, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

I think the earpink is fine; matches the fur colour well. <span style="">13:54 Fri Sep 5