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TWEAK/REDO NOMINATIONS ARE CURRENTLY: OPEN CLOSED, BARRING THE NOMINATIONS ALREADY POSTED (see the list below for images to tweak or redo)

=Nominations= If you wish to nominate an image, you link the image (like so - ) underneath the appropriate subheading, and list the reason(s) you wish it to be redone/tweaked. Only senior members of the project can vote, and only three votes are necessary for the vote to pass or fail.

Pebbleheart - Tweak Nomination
File:Pebbleheart.warrior.png, etc. - Stripes are kinda smudgy and etcetera. Same problem as Jay's Wing. Might I fix? 02:57, April 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well.... Jay's stripes were kinda messily smudged. These look fine honestly imo. But you are the OA... *shrugs*
 * Nah, I think these are fine. You can clearly tell they're stripes and unlike Jay's Wing, they're not really messy. I'm quite fond of them and would rather you not change them.
 * If you'd like to, go for it. 16:49, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * I was against Jay's Wing getting tweaked for the stripes and I'm sorry, but I'm against this image getting a tweak as well. Stripes can very well have a very broken-up edge, especially on longhaireds. 03:47, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the stripes are okay, but the shading could be defined. 23:36, April 23, 2013 (UTC)

Coal (Lo) - Tweak Nomination
File:Coal.loner.png Compared to the other two, he looks light. Bb un   legs  00:56, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think he looks fine o3o 04:14, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Too light, imho.
 * We're getting way too picky with the darkness of black cats. .-. He could be standing under a direct patch of sunlight that's making his pelt look light. It's fine. 09:30 Sun May 5

Socks - Tweak Nomination
File:Socks.loner.png and others. White on all images looks gray, the shading on the kittypet is flat, and the black on the loner is lighter than his images, and also has flat shading. Bb un   legs  20:16, April 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * He's fine. 19:58, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Can I suggest a tweak of the entire set? The white on the kit is looking gray (and that's my image and I want to fix it), the kittypet's shading is flat and white also looks a bit gray, and the loner does seem lighter, and the shading is also quite flat/white is gray.
 * I can definitely work with that. May I go change the nomination to make it all three images, instead? Bb  un   legs  18:15, April 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I changed the nomination for all of his images. Bb  un   legs  22:41, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * 01:35, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me except for the paws on the kit. Those are a bit gray and are really flat. Otherwise I honestly thing it's fine.
 * I can fix the kit image. It'll be quite simple, since I still have the file.

Storm Clouds at Dusk - Tweak Nomination
File:Storm.ph.png He's lighter than how Pikepaw used to appear originally, which got nominated for looking too light. If this passes, and if Scar doesn't want it, I'd like it. Bb un   legs  23:40, April 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'd prefer to take this if it passes, and I still have the file for it I never vote on my own images because I'll be biased   14:38, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think he's dark enough honestly. 19:58, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree.
 * Agreeing with above. 04:24, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * If you color pick it and check the actual darkness, it's barely a few shades below mid-gray. I think darkening it a bit would be good.

Mosskit (Alt Ki) - Tweak Nomination
File:Mosskit.kit.alt.png Could be darkened, looks a bit too light. I'd like this if it passes. Bb un   legs  22:10, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Do not touch that shading. Can I pick the darkness, though, since I have the star version up for approval now?
 * Sure thing, Skye c: Bb  un   legs  23:26, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * He is dark grey. 02:43, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * 02:47, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Compared to other neutral gray images, no, he isn't, guys. The base pelt for this is a simple old gray, although it's apparently dark gray or something. .-.

Patchpelt (Ki) - Tweak Nomination
File:Patchpelt.kit.png The paw on our left should be black and the other could have the white defined. If this passes may I take it? 23:18 Fri May 3
 * 02:45, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Brightflower (Alt. Q) - Tweak Nomination
File:Brightflower.queen.alt.png - Gray shading on the belly 23:57, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Can I have this if it passes?
 * 02:48, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hollowbelly (W) - Tweak Nomination
File:Hollowbelly.warrior.png - Gray shading, might I fix? 23:57, May 3, 2013 (UTC):


 * Its light source is also a bit inconsistent. 02:49, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Russetfur (Alt. W/D) - Tweak Nomination
File:Russetfur.warrior.alt.png, File:Russetfur.deputy.alt.png - Gray shading, might I fix? 23:57, May 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * 02:49, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Tallstar (A) - Tweak Nomination
File:Tallstar.apprentice.png - Gray shading 23:57, May 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think he's fine. 02:51, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's just how Jenrock shades. Have fun trying to tweak that without the file. XDDD

Silverhawk (W) - Tweak Nomination
File:Silverhawk.warrior.png Needs to be more ragged to match the rogue; might I fix? 03:28 Sat May 4


 * Technically, the warrior was made first, so I believe it should be the other way around? Bb  un   legs  18:17, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * I thought raggedness didn't have to maych exactly, as long as he's still ragged it's ok? 09:05, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * I personally think it's fine, and anyway - his fur's gonna be a bit more ragged with blood and stuff living in the Dark Forest, so I think leave it. 09:20 Sun May 5

23:02, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Ryewhisker (W) ~ Tweak Nomination
File:Ryewhisker.warrior.png So apparently I have to renominate him to redo the stripes and crap. .-. Meh, whatever. If it has to be done, so be it. I seriously can't fix the shading with the colors and everything how they are now. It's impossible.
 * Who says you have to? 23:02, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Apparently it's "part of the guidelines" or something. ._. Heck if I know. I've seen others do more than what I did.
 * Honestly, can we please be careful what we type? I don't exactly take comfort in the PCA deputy not knowing the PCA guidelines. Also, Breezey never said it was in the guidelines, (although you could argue the guidelines in this situation) she said that if people just basically redo the image under the pretenses of tweaking, it defeats the whole purpose of the tweak page. I mean, imagine if everyone just decided to do whatever they wanted on tweaks without nominating them? Like Breezey said, we mind as well throw out the entire process of tweaking and have a free for all. 03:54, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * 03:56, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's the thing, 'teldy. People claim it's part of the guidelines or things of that nature, and when I looked, it said nothing about it. In fact, I may very well argue the guidelines on this one. I know the guidelines, but I don't appreciate being told I have to renominate something when the nomination /already passed/ to tweak the shading. There was a nomination before, and it did in fact pass. In the process of tweaking said image, I discovered that I could not redo the shading in the condition the image was in. That is why I redid the stripes and altered the base coloring. The way you're speaking, it's like there wasn't a nomination at all, and I just randomly posted it.
 * Cloudy explained what was going on with this image via Skype, my apologies. 04:05, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * The quote "part of the guidelines" never came from my keyboard, thanks. The terms we voted on in the nominating were to tweak the shading. We didn't vote on redoing the stripes at all. Just because you can keep the base coat as the OA doesn't make it any less of a redo - which would be declined if another user did it. Being the OA means that you get the image when it's up for tweaking, not that you can do whatever you want with it after it is approved. If you want to disregard the purpose of the tweak nomination page, then so be it. I'm not going to further argue with you on this matter. 04:38, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Copperpaw (A) - Tweak Nomination
File:Copperpaw.apprentice.png The light source doesn't make much sense at all, I believe the shading should be re-done if possible. 21:27, May 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree. Also, the stripes kinda get lost in the shading, too. May I have this, if Scar doesn't want it, if it passes? Bb  un   legs  21:32, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * 23:01, May 5, 2013 (UTC)

Troutclaw (Ki) ~ Redo Nomination
File:Troutclaw.kit.png It doesn't match very well...I'd tweak it but I don't have access to the file. If it passes, can I take it? 08:58, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

19:14, April 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * 05:15, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Dapplenose - Redo Nomintation
File:Dapplenose.elder.pngFile:Dapplenose.warrior.png I've looked at this one for a while. Compared to Lakeshine and Leopardfoot, her mottles are very distinct, dots almost. Although this could possibly be a tweak, I think they should be redone to be more 'mottled'. If these pass, I'd like them. 09:49 Tue Apr 30

I'm sorry, but I always thought her pattern looked a tad on the unnatural side  19:15, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah I gotta agree. They're gorgeous chararts, but they don't really fit the description. 05:15, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well to be honest I think the apprentice looks fine, but I have to agree on the other two. Plus they don't quite match. Any chance of redoing the elder and warrior to match the app better and leaving it at that?

But viewing all three next to each other, they are all the same concept. They all don't fit the description the best, as Breezy said. 21:32 Fri May 3
 * Actually the apprentice is mottled, or how I would see a mottled cat, and with the cats you have compared them to up there^, it matches pretty well. I am in favour of redoing the warrior and elder to match the apprentice. 13:21 Sat May 4

Alright I changed the nomination to those two. 20:32 Sat May 4

Thornclaw (Alt A) ~ Redo Nomination
File:Thornclaw.apprentice.alt.png The stripes and the colour are off - the stripes are quite Y-ish and the colour is bordering on tawny-brown/brown. Also, I don't think it has to match the alt kit, just because he's said to be ginger as a kit and apprentice - they were at two different times in two different books. If this passes, because I am the original artist, I would like it. 09:34 Sun May 5

=Approved Tweaks= Once an image is under this heading, it may be reserved on the project main page and crossed out with a and a. The image may only be removed from this list when it is approved and archived.

Senior warriors are to keep track of the number of images on this list, including those that are crossed out. Should the number rise above 50, nominations will close and remain closed until the number of images on the list is down to 40.

Tweaks

 * File:Beetlenose.kit.png- Too light, flat shading, tweak eyes and earpink (Reserved to Shimmer until 10/5/13)
 * File:Echosong.kittypet.png - Smudge stripes like other images
 * File:Firestar.star.png - tint shading
 * File:Goosefeather.star.png - Needs darker tailtip
 * File:Hollowflight.apprentice.png - Make less green
 * File:Misha.rogue.png - Tweak shading for depth
 * File:Nutmeg (KP).kittypet.png - define shading; make less ginger
 * File:Nutmeg (KP).queen.png - make less ginger
 * File:Jumper.rogue.png - specks in image that throw it off, white looks partially gray
 * File:Ryewhisker.warrior.png - No light source (Reserved to Cloudy until 10/5/13)
 * File:Whitewing.queen.png - lighten white (Reserved to Splook until 4/29/2013)

Redos

 * File:Foxleap.kit.png- Issues with stripes and looks pink (Reserved to Raelic until 7/5/13)
 * File:Foxleap.apprentice.png- Issues with stripes and looks pink (Reserved to Raelic until 7/5/13)
 * File:Tangle.loner.png- Needs to match other images more (Reserved to Shimmerstripe until 7/5/13)
 * File:Waspwhisker.kittypet.png - Multiple issues, may as well redo