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Early Settler blanks ~ CBA
thanks 2 the gays that uploaded for me :* i know they're way too big but can someone like recommend a way to make them smaller that doesn't pixelate them?? ty 14:11 Wed Sep 16

Maybe make the long-haired's tail a bit fluffier? These are so awesome! 14:35, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Try adding some tufts of fur to the back of the front legs/elbows on the longfurred. Cats normally have longer fur there regardless, but it would be even more prominent on a long furred cat. Also, try to make the tails a tad more.. rounded and soft?? It has a few sharp edges here and there, so if you could soften that it would be great. You did wonderfully on these! 16:22, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

For the back legs, do you mind trying to make the femur...protude, a little, if you get what I mean? if you don't feel free to ask - sorry, my brain is fried. 17:42, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Can you fix the paws, they look a bit off 18:00, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make the image smaller? 20:04, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know of any way to make them smaller without pixelating them - just make them smaller, use whatever tool on whatever program you have to harden the lines, if possible, and if that makes sense, and then go in manually and make sure the whole lineart is two pixels wide. Definitely make the long-haired tail way, way fluffier, as well as the cheeks, neck fur, and belly fur, look at the queen blank to see what I'm talking about. The far back leg (behind the cat) is bent way too sharply, and the toes should be facing straight to the right, not turned towards us. The paw on the back leg closest to us looks like it's lifted in the air, and that wouldn't work since the front leg on the same side is definitely lifted in the air, the cat wouldn't be able to balance like that; flatten that paw so it looks like it's set firmly against the ground. The lifted front leg, the paw looks like it has too many joints - either get rid of that bend just above the paw and have it held straight up with the toes held out forward, or bend the paw back. Also, your perspective seems off; the far front leg is much longer than both back legs. Make sure the paws on the same side of the body is even with each other on the ground. I apologize for the wall of text. I was trying to be as specific as I could. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:32, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

The tail looks a tad uneven- it looks a bit... Bumpy in some places? 02:30, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

The paws look a little thick too me idk 15:07, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Cats aren't that ... for lack of better words, "skinny". Skinny enough that you can see their bones. It seems like in this case the point is to see the muscles and bones, and I don't think they should be seen. However feel free to disagree with that. 23:09, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Here's a friendly reminder to not forget to re-upload! 06:53, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. bullied david into uploading them for me ( thanks nerd ) anyways i kind of butchered them while resizing i m sorry. also, superfluff. 11:20 Mon Sep 21

Ok so there seems to be a little too much fluff on the long haired kitties. For all four paws can you make the lineart smoother? And where the femur protrudes, the lineart should be smooth there as well. 11:36, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

On the contrary, I think there's too many little lines of scruff, if that makes sense, but not not enough fluffiness. Thicken the neck and cheek fur a lot, again, look at the queen blank to see the kind of thickness I mean, and make the tail a lot bigger and fluffier. Make the lifted front paw much thinner, and maybe just make it one toe facing us instead of both, that makes more sense anatomically. Also, get rid of the little toe thing on the closest back leg to us, those only go on the insides of a cat's leg, not the outside, and also cats only have them on the front legs. Nice update. :) Jayie  Unwritten words~ 12:17, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you enlarge the head slightly? 01:45, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

I feel like the leg that's lifted is a little too curved. 22:48, September 24, 2015 (UTC)

Reminder to not forget to re-upload! 05:12, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Its only been four days since the last reupload, Fox. I'm pretty sure Berry is allowed extended time to reupload considering blanks are more time consuming than an ordinary charart image. 05:41, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

I know, but I don't think it'd hurt to remind her or something. 07:31, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

shes not always on a computer, she'll get to them when she can. also, with the front leg toe thing, maybe shift them up some? 12:12, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

Can you make the heels less "poked upwards"? my horrible explaining

re-uploaded. thanks 2 david again 12:06 Mon Sep 28

Femur still protrudes - mind fixing that? 18:29, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

The leg in the back farthest from us looks like it's lifted, which would mean the cat is balancing on two legs. Is that intended? 20:14, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

I think the heel should be at a softer angle(aka less 90 degree-ish). The cat would break its leg like that. 23:59, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

I think Berry had actually said on Skype that she used a picture of Bella, her cat, for the reference for the feet? I don't think it's bad, especially if she used a reference picture, and there's no better one than one of your own cat. Plus, we all know cats are weird and have their own logic when it comes to anatomy and all of that. I've seen cats in pretty weird and bizarre positions.

Berry I'm sorry, I told you not to make the hind leg protrude when I was the one to suggest it. <_< What I meant right now, is that it protrudes a little too much, but looking at pictures of cats in general (and my cat), I think it looks fine now.

I still think the joint protrudes too much. It should only be pointed that much if the back half of the cat is lower than the front and the legs are bending, but here the back half is mostly even with the front, curving the slightest bit down, so the legs shouldn't be that bent. Here's an example of what I mean: http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/78359625-ginger-tabby-cat-standing-side-view-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=aD%2F%2FqyCLrUbpWYiqK2GFsNwYSssbvBphD95v12k6jDPEgZ4FrOnwkCTANzrz2sTo The leg is a little more splayed to the side than in your image, but you can see that the joint doesn't poke upwards like you've drawn, it slopes down a bit more. Also, there's some weird bumps in the tail, and the tip is a bit too thin compared to the base. The lifted paw is too thick, and the toe should be longer and pointing the paw to the side, and the head should be a bit larger, the paws a bit smaller, and the far hind leg is bent a bit too sharply. I'll post a redline later. Jayie Unwritten words~ 17:53, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

I can't explain, so I did this to represent the comments I have.

Here's my redline: http://www.ezimba.com/work/151003C/ezimba11244517360500.png The way the back slopes is a little wonky, so I couldn't quite figure out how to make the height of the back legs work. But I hope this helps. :) Jayie  Unwritten words~ 15:49, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded ty jayce i made several changes based on the image jayie linked and the two redlines i was given 12:55 Tue Oct 6

Comments before approval? I can't really see anything wrong that needs to be fixed. As Cloudy said, cats are always in different positions, and Berry did state she used her cats as a reference. Also, she indeed did follow the redlines, so I see no reason why these shouldn't be cba'ed. 22:09, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but the head is still too small, the paws are too large and the legs seem too thick, and the legs/paws are still uneven (the front leg on the ground is too long, because it doesn't match up with the height of the far back leg). Looking back on my redline now, I made the head too big, so somewhere in the middle of how big it is now and how big I made it on the redline. Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:25, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Going around jayies comment, i think the end of the shorthair tail could be thickened by a pixel or two to match the base of the tail, and the stomach...bear with me here. The stomach on the shorthair needs to be rounded a bit more. It looks like the cats too pudgy as it is as of the moment. When i get home ill redline it a bit to show what i mean 22:27, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Looking at it again, the far front leg and the far back leg are definitely closer in height than on the last upload, but the paw is much bigger on the front leg and the leg much thicker, so make the paw smaller and the leg thinner on the front leg, and make it match the height of the back leg more. And since you move the back leg up and shortened the height, with the way the front leg is held, it looks like if the front leg was stretched out to touch the paw against the ground, it would be longer than the back leg. Can you either make the back leg longer or the lifted front leg smaller? Also the far back leg's joint is still bent too sharply, it looks like the joint is farther up on the leg than it should be. Look at how I softened it on the redline to see what I mean. Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:30, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Erm, the paws aren't too big... Cats have such different paw sizes, and how Berry has it is fine. I'm still pretty sure that she used a reference image, and it's not like we don't have many examples of cats actually being described with big paws in the series...

I still say they're too big, but if you're gonna keep them big, at least make them all the same size. Like I said, the far back leg's paw is much thinner and smaller than all the other paws, and the closer back leg, the toes seems shorter than the other paws, and almost square-like - round it out a bit. Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:05, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

I think the paws are fine actually 12:33, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

They differ in size too much. The far back paw really shouldn't be that much smaller than the far front paw. Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:35, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Winter, honestly. It looks fine, and it's really not that big of an issue. 23:46, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

The paws are the exact same distance away, and yet they're very different sizes and heights. I'm sorry, but I really, really think that's an issue. Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:59, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Jayie. They should be the same size. 00:38, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Actually now that i look at it the back paw could be bigger 12:03, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Still working? (I do think the paws are fine.) 15:03, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I'm still working. I haven't been able to do anything yet because school started back and already I'm s tressin but I'll try to upload tonight. 07:09 Thu Oct 15

Vary the long furs on the tail a bit more- right now they look pretty uniform. 13:50, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

The front legs look a little too long as cats typically have shorter front legs and longer back legs. Other besides that, this looks excellent! ^_^ --Songheart (talk) 14:01, October 17, 2015 (UTC)Songheart

I'm just wondering, how much time is the user given between uploads? 02:33, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

i'm sure there's no limit unless it's like.... months without uploads and people decide that they should be declined. 02:35, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded ty bramble. im so much happier with these now that I've edited the paws 08:57 Mon Oct 19

CBA? I think these are perfect 08:59, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Rockfall (W) - CBA
I know I'll probably have to smooth out the shading some more, just wanted to get this up before work today 15:14, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the paws further away from us. 15:40, October 10, 2015 (UTC)

Define the earpink a little, maybe? This turned out nice :) 11:10, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Blur/smudge the haunch shading. 13:29 Sun Oct 11

Smooth shading everywhere? 22:26, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe darken/add shading along the back? There's a little patch of lighter shadow there

reups 23:09, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Could you blur the shading more? If not, that's ok. ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 08:27, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

I personally think the shading is fine - if it's blurred more, she may be told to sharpen or define it. 20:58, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

To be honest I think the shading on the main body looks quite solid-y, but the rest look fine 03:54, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

I see abrupt hard edges on the shading and I agree with Blossomstream. Please blur it more. 13:52, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

reups 22:27, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the paw shading some more. 17:04, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

reups 22:57, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 00:06, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Firestar (Alt. KP) - CBA
he's a steel cat. 01:24, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

u need those m stripes 02:21, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Uh, when was he ever called gray??? Just clarify me this one thing... And if it's plausible, maybe put it in the trivia on his page?? 02:31, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

He was seen as gray in the graphic novels/mangas. As for the image, define the earpink. Also, are the darker areas some really awesome shading or mark-thingies? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 02:38, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Add/define the paler muzzle. 02:53, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

It's for non-tabby. I'll add the cite now. 04:10, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

where's tu ear pink? 07:53, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Lol nose too if you don't mind

I get that shading darkness is the artists' choice, but it looks too dark right now. Please lighten it and smooth out the shading. 18:34, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 13:40, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 03:42, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Firestar (L alt3) ~ For Approval
I know about the argument going on, but honestly the cat shown in the graphic novel was clearly not a tabby. I'll keep this up until we get an official disagreement on this. Comments? 13:38, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Can you give the stripes on his forehead some "treatments"? If you get what I mean... it kind of looks like drawn on lines atm to me. Just preference though.

The shading looks a little bit sharp... like hard edged and maybe a little thin. Can you smooth out the shading a bit? :3

Add/define the paler muzzle. 19:23, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

There's shading leaking from right next to ==> that front paw underbelly, and on the <== back paw just one pixel 22:44, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

bye 07:47, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

May I take over this? 08:20 Sat Oct 17

Re-uploaded thanks bramble! thsi is my first original leader holy crap. don't ask me to remove texture there isn't any 09:57 Sat Oct 17

Could you soften the shading? ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 09:43, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Firestar (W Alt) ~ For Approval
I know i forgot the pale muzzle i get that later. First time i went full out and added deep shading deapth. Damn this is ugly. 21:43, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading and get rid of the line of shading on the leg 21:47, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

it may just be my screen but dull down the earpink a tad? better than mine. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:06, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

re-up Redid the shading completely 22:08, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading and define neck and facial shading 22:17, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Also define and lighten earpink 22:18, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups  this is as far as i can Blur it. 22:28, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Swap the tail shading around to match with the light source 01:43, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

He needs to be short-furred to match the other images. 03:30, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

re-up 16:58, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail, and maybe lighten the shading everywhere except for the haunch area? 22:01, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

This is going to be difficult, but can you define the light on the tail? ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 06:49, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Add depth to the shading? 13:49, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

River (Leader) (CotP) ~ For Approval
So apparently Burnt was a couple seconds earlier than me. I know there isn't really a point but I never got to do a character of my favorite so I want to give it a try.

... This is unfair to me? You could have at least discussed this on Skype with me- chances are I would have withdrawn for you. Why the heck did you post this first when I reserved this before you?? 11:48, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

ugh im handing it over. 11:56, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Are the stripes supposed to end before the neck on this side ==>? or... 14:43, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Define your light source a little bit? The chest looks a bit too bright.--Dewsplash (talk) 15:24, October 17, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 15:24, October, 17, 2015

Awww, so adorable. Mabey define youre light source on the chist,leg,face,and tail, its too bright like Dewsplash said. (Also what tool did you use for that beautiful light)

Poppyshine, please don't repeat comments. Can you smooth out the shading some more? 17:06, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten shading a little on the top of his head? (these blanks are amazing and so is Jayie)

I think the shading on his head is supposed to be his stripes. 04:01, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups @Poppy, the light source is on the left (and I use GIMP). I removed the highlights so hopefully that'll help with the bright problem.

Smooth out the shading, define the shading depth and define the head shading. 09:40, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Could you smudge the tail stripes a little more? They look a bit too hard-edged. 15:08 Sun Oct 18

Blossom (Lo) ~ For Approval
Second round 13:46, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth shading out a little on the tail?

Re-uploaded

Could you define the shading a little? 13:51, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

I'd love to, but I lost the file and I was told twice to smooth the shading out (the last time was when I initially posted it then withdrew it). If I define it, I'd be told to smooth it out again

I honestly think the shading looks fine 14:34, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

can you either reduce the stomach shading or the patch a little? it just looks like like the middle part is greyish. 18:24, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Without the file, let's practice tweaking 02:32, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Tawnyspots (Ki) ~ For Approval
Image too tiny for details of ears and stripes. >< please do not tell me to thicken stripes. 23:48, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading? ~ Blossomstream The War Is Over 06:48, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 20:34, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Erase/lighten some of the shading on the upper part of each leg, and shade the bottom of the paws more? Jayie Unwritten words~ 21:01, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the back paw. Very nice! 23:58, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload thanks! :) I seem to find tabbies easier than some reason, especially on kits because I've had too much practice. 05:11, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Add some more depth to the shading and make the points of the stripes. They look really round compared to the sharper/smudged stripes of his other images. 08:55 Mon Oct 19

Arc (CotP) ~ For Approval
Shading black cats is hard :p 10:50, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the highlights. 11:18, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups 18:18, October 18, 2015 (UTC)