Warriors Wiki talk:Reality

Online Phenomenon Infobox
I've been thinking...Since Online Phenomenon pages are PR pages, how about we create an infobox for sites? So far, For role-play site articles, we can make an infobox that reveals this information:

There will be game information in the infobox.


 * Name of website:
 * Picture of Website logo:
 * Website link:
 * Website abbreviation:
 * Type of role-play website (modified canon for an example):
 * Website Staff:
 * Date founded:

This is for role-play websites though, I'll think of ideas for others, and I'll work on the infobox, if I need to make an example. Thoughts, comments, and ideas? 18:50, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

It's a good idea. Have it somewhat like the Clan articles, or even character articles. We'd need to get into contact with the founders of the fanfiction websites, though that's not much of a problem. 20:47, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

I agree too. I'm not all that good with online fan stuff and everything, but I think this will work. 01:54, Sun, Feb, 12, 2012

Here is the model. The first infobox. 04:41, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

That looks good, but I'm not sure what to add.

Maybe add under important dates close date if appliable. 05:25, 27, 02, 2012

Anything to add I think would be on the dictation of those who are founders of the website. We can start on the coding and then find all the founders who've made applications for online phenomenon and start editing. To forewarn, these will not have nominations. 00:13, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Rather late, but do we /need/ the Online Phenomenon pages? If we delete pages like fanfiction character pages and fanfiction articles, why can't we delete the Online Phenomenon pages? They have nothing to do with the canon Warriors - and they just take up space. 16:46, June 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since I was the one who brought the OP stuff to the wiki in the first place, back when I originally adopted it, I'll explain my reasoning for including it here. Without RP, Warriors wouldn't be the phenomenon it is today, When I was originally reorganizing things it seemed prudent to provide a place for that information to be kept, in addition to everything else. The fandom is a great deal of where the power of our fandom comes from, and likely will always be a strong part of the fandom. Without Roleplay, would Warriors have the following it has? I doubt it. I doubt that without the RP Craze we'd have gotten more than the original series... 01:13, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

I made a draft here on how a website article could look like. I'm open to suggestions and concerns. 07:27, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

The draft is very well put together. All I would say is you could possibly add the exact date the wiki was made. (If you could find it). 20:25, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Facebook Pages
I was thinking, why don't we have pages for Vicky and Kate (and soon Cherith's) facebook pages? We could list the questions that are answered on there, just like we do for the chats. I asked Teldy about it, and she said to propose it, so what do you guys think? Should we make pages for them? 02:16, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Seems like a good idea. Though, the only problem is that the information we obtain from their facebook pages may not be valid, such as, we got information from Kate (I think?) that Seedkit and Lilykit were torties, later revealed to be false. But, it's not much of a problem because if something is invalid, it can be confirmed later in the books. I think that it should be one page, with each sections for each authors' facebook page. I see that we could probably use templates like the chat template for the questions answered. 02:21, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well really the stuff in the chats can and has been wrong too, so I'm not sure that's much of a problem. Like them saying Mapleshade was tortie. But yeah, I that sounds good about the section thing, and using templates like the chats. 04:04, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know whether we can fit it on one page. I mean, I was sort of thinking about having one page for each of the facebooks and then just sections to break down the information either in dates or like we have with the chats. Vicky is quite active as an author on her facebook and to coalesce all that information would mean quite a long page plus Kate's facebook, -shrug- either way works. 02:47, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

That would probably work. 00:12, 29, 04, 2012

What's so important about their Facebook pages? Either they should be put in each individual person's page or the Erin Hunter page, with links /if/ possible. 17:53, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

The Facebook page tidbits don't need to be duplicated on a page anywhere. That information gets referenced in articles all the time and stuff. There's no need to make bigger fusses about pages that are not exclusively warriors pages (all of them have other projects, after all) that need be. We link them from their individual pages and add the information to articles as appropriate, I feel like we're already addressing Facebook very well. 18:01, June 9, 2012 (UTC)

I must disagree about us covering the info on facebook sufficiently. Currently, the majority of our cites don't have links to the original posts for them, it's either unlinked or linked to the WW website, which though is accurate, shouldn't be used as a source since it's fanmade. Also, there are things that vicky's said that should be listed, but don't really have a specific place where they'd fit. Such as why sometimes one author writes more than 50% of an arc. Furthermore, I for a fact know how hard it is to search facebook for past questions. It's near impossible to locate the exact thing you're looking for. On here not only would you be able to simply ctrl+f for it, it's also easier to check the dates of it. Lastly, there are many questions that are answered multiple times, and often small pieces of information are added the second or third time it's answered, but since the question had bee asked and added to the character or book's page before, it may be overlooked. Overall I think yes, we could deal without it, but it'd certainly help us be more thorough and I see no reason not to have it. It's related to the Warrior series, and we're trying to make an accurate encyclopedia of things. That would include things mentioned on facebook. }} 06:11, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Pale made a good point. She said it all. ^^ As this site being a warriors encyclopedia, we should have articles about as much as possible about stuff that are related to warriors. 16:09, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. I don't think it is necessary to have Facebook pages. 04:51, 08, 07, 2012

The New Erin
Hey all. I was just curious, and I figured that this is a topic that can be decided early rather than being decided the moment this thing happens, but will we be including an article about the new Erin that'll be writing Survivors? It may have nothing to do with Warriors, but it'll be an Erin Hunter member no less.

The name of the Erin hasn't been announced yet, but there's a floating rumor that it'll be Gillian Phillip.

Thoughts? Should we include an article about the author when his/her name is announced, or should we leave it out since they aren't writing Warriors? 23:01, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I think that, at the very least, we can include info on him/her on the Erin Hunter page. 23:03, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, Kate Cary herself announced that Gillian //is// the new Erin. Check her facebook page. Here's your proof.

Ah, good. So we can decide this sooner than later. Shall we make a page for her, or just make a section on the Erin Hunter page for her? 23:06, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

I would think an entirely new page. Yes, she's not a Warriors Erin, but, she's still an Erin nevertheless. We do that with the illustrators/writers/ect of the graphic novels, instead of just bunching them together. (I've actually read one or two of her books before...she's not half bad. =3)

Well, yeah, but those illustrators are still writing Warriors books no less. :\ I'm still up in the air about it. 23:10, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, very true. Perhaps for now place the information on the Erin Hunter page, and if we decide to make a page for her, we already have some basic information about her to add. Something's better than nothing, I say. Although she's technically an Erin, I see your point.

Alright, I wrote her into the Erin Hunter page. I figure it's the least we can do. She's an Erin now and deserves mention as such. 23:32, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but is Cloudskye and Shelly's opinion a community consensus? No, so why have we already added it to the Erin Hunter page? While I agree with adding her to the Erin Hunter page as she's now part of the pseudonym, but we haven't decided anything except hear the opinion of one user. Meanwhile, I don't believe she should necessarily have a page since she's not writing any of the Warriors books especially since this wiki is about Warriors series. All articles we have is pertaining to the series and those who have a part in it. My two cents on this. 00:06, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Atelda is correct, I believe. We need the support/opinion of the whole project; not even the project only, but the wiki. I would think that a section on the Erin Hunter article is good (As she is an Erin), and that it could stay. However, an objection of the idea could occur. Also, I don't believe that we'll need to make an article for this new Erin, however, if she's even slightly involved with the Warriors series (such as an idea for a name or so), maybe an article could be made for her (however, if she is involved only so little and only once, that could just be stated in her section on the Erin Hunter article). As for now, I'm pretty sure that she won't need an article. But of course, things are bound to change. 00:17, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's why I just added her to the Erin Hunter page and didn't make an entire article about her. Because she is an Erin Hunter now, and therefore that information needs to go on that page. Not like every piece of information on this wiki completely pertains to Warriors 100%. I don't think a detailed description on the physiology of Sheep has much to do with the Warriors series itself, but we put it here for the sake of information. And if there's a new Erin in what Kate calls ErinClan, I say we at least mention her in the appropriate article. I never intended to make an entirely new article without the approval of PR. 22:46, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Consensus is a tool, guys. If you feel information needs to be taken out of an article, it should get discussed (and if consensus cannot be reached though discussion of the concerned parties on the applicable talk page) then it's time to bring the project in. Consensus doesn't not have to be an entire project. Sometimes, it's best to leave it to the involved parties, and only use the project to settle it if agreement cannot be reached and further inquiry is needed. Given that it's relevant information regarding the topic of "Erin Hunter", what grounds are there for deletion of the information? She's part of Erin Hunter. Not involved with our series, and thus not worthy of a page of her own... But certainly worthy of a blurb. 22:58, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

I think she should be part of the Erin Hunter page, and maybe make a page of her own, and mark it as planned. Perhaps no one could nominate that page until any further information is revealed. :/ 09:54, 06, 06, 2012

-is late- Better late than never, no? Anyways, I personally believe she should not get her own page, but be featured in the Erin Hunter article. Erin Hunter writes Warriors, Erin Hunter is on this page, Gillian Phillip is one of the Erins, thus deserving a section. 18:35, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with DJ and Icy I think she should have her own page, and be included into the Erin Hunter page. 04:53, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

2004 ~ Silver Nomination
It look sgood to me and everything is cited so yeah, xD. Comments? 02:56 Sat Jul 14

CBV? 07:25, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

The Polish version of Into the Wild and Fire and Ice came out this year. o.o 19:40, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

o.o, do you have the cites for that? Because i wouldn't be able to find that probably xD 14:31 Sun Jul 22

IF you go the the Into the Wild and Fire and Ice pages, under publication history there should be a cite for them you could use. owo 04:51, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 02:19, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 07:22, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Erin Hunter Chat 6 ~ Silver Nomination
This one hasn't been nominated, it fits the guidelines, so, it looks ready to me. Comments? 20:35 Sat Jul 14

Every question that has an answer needs one and it needs to be cited. =) -- 22:11, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Can you add more outcomes for some more questions? Also, delete the spaces before the cites. 22:19, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I only understoo dhalf of what Ducksplash said because I'm so stupid, and I did what you asked Appledash. 00:01 Sun Jul 15

You're not stupid, I just worded it wrong, anyway just add a few more outcomes and make sure all of the outcomes are cited. 00:25, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

xD Thanks, I think I got most of 'em if there are anymore please tell me ;3 00:43 Sun Jul 15

There's more; could you cite those? Other than that, the article is great. =) 07:25, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Erm, could you tell me which sections? ie. WindClan, RiverClan xD14:34 Sun Jul 22


 * ThunderClan. 14:37, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

Done. I hope c: 14:49 Mon Jul 23

Can you add a couple more outcomes into the ThunderClan section? A few of them have outcomes. 16:55, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Could yuo tell me which ones please? xD 17:38 Mon Jul 23

28, and 29 from the top. owo 05:33, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 02:01, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

There are still a few outcomes without references. One has a source tag and some toward the bottom of the page don't have the references. 04:59, 05, 08, 2012

I'm withdrawing this, I can't fill the source tag because I don't remember hearing about it and I don't know where to find the other refs for the outcomes. 18:11, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to take this over, if you don't mind, Sweet. 02:46, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

2005 - Silver Nomination
Well... it looks great. Comments? owo 04:52, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

A Dangerous Path in Russian came out I think. 19:40, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Finished. 05:30, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 07:23, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

2010 ~ Silver Nomination
It's all fiilled out, comments? 05:01, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Into the Wild in Portuguese and Italian, Fire and Ice in Portuguese and Czech, Forest of Secrets in Finnish, Rising Storm in Finnish and Lithuanian, A Dangerous Path in the Netherlands, The Darkest Hour in German (audio as well as paperback), Firestar's Quest in Chinese and French, and many others are missing. 20:20, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 07:24, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'll takeover. I've been adding some of the books in. 01:49, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

I went through all of the books and added everything in. It took 2 and a half hours, but it should be completed. 19:23, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

2006- Silver Nomination
I think this page is ready for silver status. Comments? My two favorite Warriors books were released this year. 20:05, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Nice! I looked in the references - and I saw that some of the cites came from [Russian] Wikipedia. Could you please try to change those cites/refs? I don't think we should be citing from Wikipedia - they're basically like wikia, so it'd be like citing ourselfs. I suggest changing those cites to the cites that wikipedia's got that info from. 07:15, July 18, 2012 (UTC) Into the Wild in Lithuanian and Virgin Islands, Fire and Ice in the Virgin Islands, Forest of Secrets in the Virgin Islands, and Rising Storm in the Virgin Islands are missing. 19:40, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 07:24, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

No, my life is crazy right now(As always) and I can't remember the page I found that had cites or work the ref tags. 12:52, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Policy Overhauls
Hey all.

As a few of you already know, I've been writing up proposed overhauls of this wiki's policies. I need as much input from as many people as possible to perfect these policies in ways that suit the entire community, so I'm posting this message in every project in the hopes that some of you will be interested in effecting the rules we live by here.

So, if you're interested in helping out, please come here and leave your thoughts.

Thanks! 15:14, August 2, 2012 (UTC)