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Softpaw blanks- For Approval
Alright, since I won't be on later tonight, and I was told they should be on here today, here's the short-haired male blank. As wit blanks in the past, I will perfect this one first, then the others will be an easy lineart tweak. 20:51, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

There's some thinner lineart by the tip of the tail. (I can't help with the other stuff, 'cause I know nothing about it. lol, sorry for providing useless help.)

Can you make the back leg go behind the front leg on the side nearer to the right? I hope I make sense, I'm horrible at wording things owo 21:18, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Can you make the blank a little bot smaller, and the nose more centered in the face? Also, make the tail just a little tiny bit longer. Beautiful, Ivy <3 Stormy  I'm messing with you ♥ 21:31, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Cats have the most awesome anatomy while running. 8D Anyway, first thing is, if an animal has their legs that far forward while running, chances are both their front paws will not be on the ground. I would recommend lifting at least one amd giving it a wrist joint. Second, it's chest is way too large. Cats' ribcages end almost right with the shoulders, so that far shoulder is going to be much more prominent, the chest flatter, and the nearer shoulder larger. I would also recommend the cats head to our left slightly so that it's neck will appear longer and give you more room for the shoulders. It also might be slightly too large. The back legs are also off. Take the knee joint and bump it up higher. The hock will also be much shorter, so that the lineart for the foot is almost behind foreleg, and the far leg should be farther right and up. Here are the references I was using for it: 1, 2, 3. 21:34, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe lift the tail up a bit higher on the flank and make it a touch longer. The face seems to bulge a bit one this <-- side, but the eyes seems to indicate a flatter, more triangular face. Maybe lift the father ear up a bit more and make this --> side's whisker's bend go down instead of up. 00:29, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'm not a cat analogy person but the thing with the hind paw on our right side, it looks odd. Mainly because with the other paw, they just seem different. The shape of the paw is odd and I think it looks... upside down I guess XDD. Well, mainly as the paw comes to a point and the paw shape doesn't seem... cat like. I know, I am also terrible at explaining things. Raineh Has returned :D  22:21, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, well, I'm not really an expert at these things, but the head seems to bulge a little. And the lower jaw seems to indicate a straight-up head, while the rest seems to be tilted. 01:01, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried D: 01:19, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Make the ear on the right come <---this was a bit? The head looks a bit too long at the top owo

Ivy, you want me to redline for anatomy? 05:48, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Make the neck longer and move it slightly higher. Round and smooth out the back and move the far hind leg even furthur under the body. Also, move that jaw line closer to the rest of the head. You also might make that near front paw a little smaller. You're doing awesome, Ivy. 15:00, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

I'm no expert, but could you smooth out the lineart? Amazing job<3333

Can you fix the right ear's (our right) lineart? Where the earpink normally goes that's a bumped line where the ear's actual lineart connects. Hope this makes sense xD. 22:46, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Not knocking you guys, but redlines help me the most, I'm just a visual kind of person. I'd really appreciate one Shelly :) 00:56, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I'll get that done asap. 06:34, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I'm sorry, I couldn't redline. But I was able to work from your pose with a slight shift to look more natural. Feel free to use this or not. I think it's angry at something... http://images.wikia.com/warriors/images/archive/2/2f/20120923200241!Shellyheart.png 20:04, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Wow, Ivy, this is beautiful <3. Could you try to make the tail a bit longer and make the head a bit more circular? ♪ ♫ Feat her ♪♫  17:20, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded How about this? I feel that the back leg looks kind of funky but I tried :P 00:39, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

There's a spot on the tail where the lineart's thinner than the rest. Fix it, please? Or if it's supposed to be like that, ignore me.

I'm no anatomy expert, but the ear closest to us looks a bit...weird? o.oPikachushinx the power of the past 02:06, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it does look a little longer and more circular than the other one. Maybe make it straighter and shorter and angle it back a little more.  Charlie  Let's   go to   Candy Mountain  02:08, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind I did a redline of this, although I'm not officially added back yet.

I couldn't actually see the redline on top, so I moved it over. Basically, the legs need to be thinner and shorter, and the head rounder. Also, the shape of the hindleg is a little awkward. Darkhallows  call me maybe 07:22, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Elongate the neck, too. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 20:29, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

The neck's fine, Storm. It's on an angle so he wouldn't have much of a neck anyway. 21:25, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I...tried XD Is all I can say. 05:05, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Make the ear close to us less round, and the shape of the back foot close too us still seems a bit awkwardly shaped imo. 05:08 Tue Oct 2

Here's a redline I made using one of the links Breeze gave as reference. Hope it helps. 06:38, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe make the Softpaw a tad skinnier. http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/5/56/Giratina_orig.gif Crystals   over   Sparks  http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/2/27/Dialga_Sprite.gif 03:15, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Make the head a touch bigger 03:27, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

The legs are still too long and wide. -- Đark ɦallows  06:38, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

There seems to be a small break in the tail(near the base), can you either smooth it out or thicken the lineart there? 20:31, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

You still working on these? 00:44, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I am, I've just been having complications with it. My sincerest apologies :(  01:04, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

The front paws are still a bit too big, can you shrink them a bit? 19:37, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Bump the closest eye up higher and smooth out the back. 20:32, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

The front left (my left) paw should be facing the front a bit more. It's on quite an awkward angle.  Millie  It's   all   black magic!  02:07, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

The face looks...How do I put this? Flat-ishPikachushinx the power of the past 14:58, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, the face is fine. With the pose that it is in, the head would be angled that way, making the face appear that it looks kind of 'flattish'. 01:20, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Still working? 17:56, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm trying, I really am, the anatomy just frustrates me at times because at this angle, it's difficult to get perfect  02:51, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

The front paw on this<--- side is still at an awkward angle. Could you please fix that? :3 02:57 Thu Oct 25

I'm going to feel horrible for critiquing this, because I'm Horrid at cat anatomy, and I wouldn't be able to do any better. Also, if I repeat anything from up there^ I did Not mean to. I would remove the line on the back, the legs look too thick, the paws I don't think should be wider than the legs themselves, the tail is crooked, as is the back leg closest to us, and to me the neck looks to short. -- 18:08, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Smooth out the back a little more and move the "foot" on the hind leg back a little. 00:28, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

It's been a week with no update and over a month and a half since the initial upload... Sorry, Ivy, I know you're trying and your blank is cool, but I think someone else should finish this. Keep the pose but get it wrapped up. 16:23, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

I've really been trying, but with the redlines being so different and not entirely getting it, it's just been really difficult. I don't want to give this up, but I guess if the project agrees, I can send my file over to someone new. :/  19:02, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Well I've asked cloudy multiple times what would happen about time limits and such on this, and though an agreements never been made, but I personally think Ivy should have 2 months on this, and if it's not approved by then, someone else could take it, keeping the same pose. It's a blank, it should have a bit more time than normal images. However you would have to keep uploading it Ivy. I certainly wouldn't mind taking over, but I personally think Ivy should get until two months are up before it goes up for grabs to anyone, unless she chooses to withdraw it early for any reason. 05:37, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Paleh. Two months is good; twice as long as a normal charart. However, I think Ivy should choose who the blanks get passed off to, since they were hers. I also agree with keeping the same pose, since /that's/ why these blanks were picked.

Alright. Well, I did try and fix them up again, but I really need help on the paws. They are giving me the fits, no matter how much I re-shape them XD  01:32, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Try making them more round, especially the one that is off the ground. 21:33, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

You still working on this, Ivy? 04:10, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

I /am, I didn't see the comment. I'm unable to shape the paws right and I am asking for help to get them right, I don't think I worded it correctly but I need a redline over my image on how the paws should look since I can't make them righ. 06:04, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry. I didn't see your comment. Here, I made some redlines. It might be a bit stylized but I hope it helps. 02:33, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

If you give it up, can I take over? Crys tal  hea  rt! ❄  20:48, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

First of all, Ivy's supposed to pick who to give it to when time's up, not just give it to whoever asks. Second, it's quite rude to ask to take over something before it's declined. Please don't do that. 14:31, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

However, it has been two months, as agreed. 03:39, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I used Breeze's redline pretty heavily, I hope this does it. If not, I already have someone in mind who can take over. I'm about at my wit's end with this lol  03:48, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

The head seems a little flat. Try rounding it out a little, move the closer ear forward, and make the muzzle stick out a bit more. 17:44, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:38, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Can you maybe shrink the (our) right ear a bit? And the head looks a bit small for the body. (though that could just be me, I'm not good with this whole anatomy stuff)  22:14, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried making the head bigger, only by a few pixils. 21:51, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

The head still seems a little flat. Maybe make it more round? Crys tal  hea  <font color="#4BA9D8">rt! ❄  21:57, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  02:27, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

It's ten days past the two month mark. I'm not trying to be mean, I swear, but someone needs to wrap this up. 04:21, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Make the face flater now, please. x3 00:00, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

The muzzle needs to look a little shorter in my opinion, but I don't know anatomy... xD -- .foxderp talk to the fox creature 01:07, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I can only do so much before I'm right back to where I started before I redid the head. 04:54, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Try to make the muzzle a bit smaller and straighten out the side of the chin. 22:54, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  00:18, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I sound so pushy, but could you push the lower jaw back and kinda smooth out the top jaw on <-- side? 01:17, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  01:33, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Can you make the muzzle a bit more square and make the forepaw that's up a bit less splayed. Don't make the due-claw/toe pop out so much and maybe round the left hind paw a touch rounder/define the toes 04:47, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

The muzzle looks like the jaw is sticking out.. fix that, please. And smoothen out the tail a bit. <font color="#00FFFF">Crys <font color="Blue">tal  <font color="#00CCFF">hea  <font color="#4BA9D8">rt! ❄  05:05, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  01:46, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

This blank is beautiful, but it's a bit large. Maybe shrink it a tad? <font color="#00FFFF">Crys <font color="Blue">tal  <font color="#00CCFF">hea  <font color="#4BA9D8">rt! ❄  06:31, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Erm, I don't mean to be a hassle or anything, but it's been well over two months, nearing three now. Shouldn't this be passed on to whoever Ivy chooses now? 09:28, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Ivy, but I got to agree with Paleh. :/ 23:43, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

But nobody has said anything else about any other flaws, if you see any other flaws then I guess decline this :/ But I'm only going to pass this on to whomever won't redo the blank. 01:19, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Well I'm sorry but yes, the anatomy's still off on the legs and paws, and the whole blank needs to be shrunk, and the muzzle looks a bit... off *can't describe it* Sorry Ivy. 01:51, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

You know what? I'm done. Whoever is willing to work with this instead of redoing it, leave me a message. I thought I was so close to getting this approved, but I'm not letting two months of hard work be erased. 05:09, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I'm sorry I got hissy there, but all I;ve wanted was to get these blanks completed, and now I can't, and it's just really frustrating, please understand how difficult this is for me. When the prey hunter blanks were being made by Night Shine and she left, Iceheart finished them for her, and I just want to be given that same courtesy. 08:10, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with that, Ivy. I think that if a user wants to take on the blanks, they should work with what's already given. It's not fair to you, and since others have gotten that same privilege, so will you. Plus, I voted for these because of the stance, and since that's what got picked, that's what'll stay. It's unfair to you, and to everyone who voted for your blanks.

Agreed. Ivy won the contest fair and square, her blanks were chosen to be put up for approval. That's what going to stay up for approval unless Ivy herself decides to take them down. There has never been, to my knowledge, a time limit on new blanks, and even if we decide to impose one in the future, that shouldn't apply to this. Ivy keeps the blanks. End of story. 00:56, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Um, Scar that's not what any of us were saying... Cloudy was just saying that whoever gets the blank shouldn't redo it. We decided on a time limit of two months like a month ago. :/ 07:06, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Well, even if Scar was off topic, I'm inclined to agree with her. We created this time limit on blanks in the middle of Ivy working on these- it shouldn't apply to her. On any future blanks, then, I'm sure, yes, it will apply, but for these, no. Ivy should be able to continue work on these, like every other user in the past who's made a new blank. 22:09, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Leggo's got a good point, and I'm inclined to agree with her. Had we decided this before the blanks were posted, I would have to argue the point, however, that's not what we did. Since they were decided right in the middle of her posting them, it's hardly fair at all. So, I think Ivy should be allowed to keep them unless she so wishes to pass them on to another user to work on them. I didn't even /think/ of that. Thanks for pointing it out, Leggo.

Well, if that's what you guys want to do, then I will continue to work on them. However, since there have been a lot of comments on this, might I suggest we archive them to save room? 02:47, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's this? I reconstructed the mouth and eyebrow bone, gave the paws a more defined shape, and made the top of the hind foot less curvy. Also, shrank the blank more, it really should make the cat about the size of the apprentice blanks. 18:38, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Scorchwind (A) - CBA
Tabby guy! ^.^ ,17:23, November 6,2012 (UTC)

Lighten the stripes a bit to match the warrior. He's so purdy~ 17:29, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Make the stripes thicker, too. Very beautiful. =) 17:37, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded, I also changed his colour slightly to match..but Its still not perfect anyway. ,20:08, November 6,2012 (UTC)

The stripes don't really match the warrior....like, in terms of style and all... (sorry for not elaborating, I can't think)

Youre evil.. no of course youre not..rawrr ,09:49, November 10,2012 (UTC)

Still working on this, Leafy? o3o 03:37, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah! Im just busy. Reuploaded ,16:06, November 13,2012 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink 02:14, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded ,16:30, November 16,2012 (UTC)

The stripes still don't match the other images. x3 18:50, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

You know what? This: Reuploaded ,13:09, November 19,2012 (UTC)

I think the stripes could match a bit better... o3o. 23:48, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe blur the stripes a little? <span style="">23:55, 19, 11, 2012

x.x Okay, I think that we should actually tell Leafy how to fix the stripes, instead of just saying to make it match better, which is really vague. I agree with Mounty on the blurring.. Maybe you can lighten the stripes a little? They look a bit too dark/brownish. 00:05, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

I think the stripes are fine, opacity-wise. I guess these are too...stylized, I think. I'm not entirely sure how to describe it. The stripes on the kit and apprentice are...uh... I guess the word "simple" could fit in here without offending anyone, I hope..

Reuploaded: I lightened and blurred stripes a little, but I think I made it worse anyway. ,15:51, November 22,2012 (UTC)

Maybe get rid of a few stripes and sharpen the rest a bit. owo 15:58, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded, ow Im thinking about leaving it to someone else to make it better. ,18:40, November 25,2012 (UTC)

Darken them, and sharpen them more, or un-smudge them. x3 22:19, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded ,17:32, November 28,2012 (UTC)

Still too stylized. The warrior's are straighter and less tapered. 22:04, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I cant work on this, I dont have much of free time, anyone who wants to take over have free space ,14:30, November 30,2012 (UTC)

I could give this a try. x3 21:19, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

If you decide not to, I'll do it because I couldn't find a cat to be my first charart. But go ahead I'm not asking to take it or anything xD 19:02, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I just uploaded. owo Uploaded 19:53, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Okay that's fine! Uh, blur the stripes a little more. :) 19:55, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 21:04, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

The nose color looks the same as the pelt color, and a bit too orangey, although it might just be my computer. 02:39, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 03:22, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

That's odd...I was going to say that the earpink should be lighter because on the earpink chart said that for a dark ginger cat the earpink should be a brightish pink, and a ginger cat (That's in Scorchwind's description) should be a bright orangey color. But then I checked Scorchwind's warrior pic and realized he had the same dark purplish earpink as your apprentice pic and I wondered was that a mistake on the warrior pic maker's part...? I dunno because I'm fairly sure the earpink shouldn't be that color... 22:46, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

The earpink's fine. Cats can have dark skin. 23:45, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Earpink doesn't always have to match the earpink chart. That's just help for newer members. They're colors that work for those pelt colors, they're not the only ones you can use. This is fine. Ducky, define the face shading pwease? ouo 05:03, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 13:44, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

I know it won't match the other images, but maybe make the ear-pink really pale; like Russetfur's, I think it'd look a bit more natural 22:22, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I honestly think that it's fine, but if another person agrees, then I'll do so. owo 15:12, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I think it's fine. CBA? 05:35, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Clawface (Alt. W) ~ For Approval
First solid in a while~ Comments?<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height: normal;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt 137.4pt 183.2pt 229.0pt 274.8pt 320.6pt 366.4pt 412.2pt 458.0pt 503.8pt 549.6pt 595.4pt 641.2pt 687.0pt 732.8pt"> Sh   oo   n  Dream, believe...   14:11, November 25, 2012 (UTC) Can you extend the shading that's on the back of the tail all the way to the top of the tail? 18:47, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 22:18, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

You still working on this? 04:56, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Yep, re-uploaded-- I don't think changes are showing.<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height: normal;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt 137.4pt 183.2pt 229.0pt 274.8pt 320.6pt 366.4pt 412.2pt 458.0pt 503.8pt 549.6pt 595.4pt 641.2pt 687.0pt 732.8pt"> Sh   oo   n  Dream, believe...   15:40, December 1, 2012 (UTC) Define the earpink a little bit? Oh and the space around the ears isn't really blended with the shading. :) 19:04, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Define/darken the shading. 23:38, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Define the unshaded part on his face. 03:36, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Still working on this? 17:44, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

It's Dec 8, can I please take over? c: 15:05, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, re-uploaded -- Sorry this took so long, I've got a concussion, and my brain refused to cooperate..<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height: normal;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt 137.4pt 183.2pt 229.0pt 274.8pt 320.6pt 366.4pt 412.2pt 458.0pt 503.8pt 549.6pt 595.4pt 641.2pt 687.0pt 732.8pt"> Sh   oo   n  Dream, believe...

15:32, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

It looks like there's a darker line of shading under the earpink. 16:54, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Um, Moon, I'm sorry, but it's been a week and I have this reserved now... 17:02, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Comments, please and thank-you? c: 17:13, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, no. I had until the 9th on the wiki clock. <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height: normal;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt 137.4pt 183.2pt 229.0pt 274.8pt 320.6pt 366.4pt 412.2pt 458.0pt 503.8pt 549.6pt 595.4pt 641.2pt 687.0pt 732.8pt"> Sh   oo   n  Dream, believe...

17:17, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

You didn't reupload in the time you had. I reserved it, and you saw that I had it and took it back from me after your time was up. 17:34, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, wait. First of all, Sunny, let the senior warriors decide when a charart gets declined, please don't go reuploading until we are sure that the person had their time to reupload and such. And Moon, you did only to the 8th, but to 15:40. (I wanted to make sure that you got the full time) So, since you reuploaded it before then, the image stays with Moon. I'm sorry, Sunny, but I have to make sure that Moon gets her full amount of time. 17:42, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

All right, sorry Misty. Moon, you can have it. 17:44, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'm just going to throw my two cents in here. Misty is correct about the timing. Moon was still within her time limit, according to the wiki clock, which is what we go by. Plus, in order for an image to be taken over, a lead must decline it first. You're not allowed to take over an image without permission.

Smooth out and blur the shading a bit more. 15:13, December 9, 2012 (UTC)