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Featherpaw (A) - CBA
I did my best. Tigerbird-The-Great 01:03, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Can you darken/define the shading? And tone the earpink down some, it looks a little bright. You can just run the burn tool over it a few times, and that should do the trick. I like those eyes. 1:13 Fri Sep 5

Smear a bit of the fur into the ears 18:02, September 5, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Tigerbird-The-Great 01:19, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge some more fur into the ears. Still looks a bit solid. 04:31, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Oh and define the light on all four paws^^ 19:45, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe lighten she shading just a tick? The stripes are getting a little lost. Nice job! 9:00 PM, Sat Sep 6, 2014

This is beautiful! I feel so proud right now Define the light on the lower part of the tail, and possibly the shading on the tailtip? 11:39, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

Still working? 15:48, September 11, 2014 (UTC)

I will update soon. Tigerbird-The-Great 23:47, September 12, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I cannot smudge any fur into the ears. I need opinions. Tigerbird-The-Great 00:51, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

Add more stripes. 11:27, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tigerbird-The-Great 21:07, September 13, 2014 (UTC)

Is it possible to make the pattern look more natural? If you look at other tabby chararts or a real life tabby, that'd be a good reference. 08:52, September 14, 2014 (UTC)

Tigerbird, referring to an earlier upload when you said you can't smudge the fur into the ears, you can if you raise the rate of the smudge tool(depending on what program you use) and it'll smudge for you. Shinx, we have had a debate in the past on the image Aspenfall when he was up for approval. We ended up deeming it natural and let it pass. I think if Tigerbird maybe had the markings curve more to the fur it'd look more natural, but the actual pattern I think could work unless someone says otherwise. I'm just remembering a past similarity. Lol. Keep it up, Tiger! 12:29, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

Aspenfall and Featherpaw are two totally different pelt types, Darkfrost. Gray/white placement on those cats, to my knowledge, is not totally required to be placed realistically. Tabby stripes, however, are (sadly; I hate realism and I think it's stupid to force it on others), so they should be made a bit more natural. Also, please keep in mind that one user does not speak for the entire project (so using 'we' and things like that isn't necessary, since most of the members who were around at that time are long gone), and I agree with Shinx about the stripes.

Reuploaded. I'll work on the ear smudging. Tigerbird-The-Great 22:25, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

I can't smudge the ear fur since I use Pixlr and the smudging turns out black when I try to use it. Tigerbird-The-Great 22:28, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

Isn't this supposed to be called File:Featherpaw (WC).apprentice.png? 23:36 Thu Sep 18

No the file name is correct. It's normal to put an underscore instead of a space. 18:20, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

Um, no it's not correct. What Hawky has linked is the correct file name, so please use it. We need File:Name.rank.png, otherwise it does not work in the least with the templates. Tiger, I've told you this before =P

I'm sorry, but I know there are several files with -name-_(SC).rank that I've seen, so I just assumed the (WC) was supposed to be like (SC) is. 02:07, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

When I try to put a space, it changes to an underscore. Tigerbird-The-Great 16:55, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

That's not what I was talking about. The underscore is fine. But, it needs to follow the exact naming guidelines that we have, and what Hawky has is the proper file name, changing it to an underscore is the exact same thing.

Oh my bad. I thought it was about the underscore but I see what you're talking about now. Carry on :3 20:50, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

I think the shading can be darkened a bit, and the stripes stylized a little more so they don't look as paintbrushed. Perhaps smudge them? Also, can you unblur the ear pink towards the edges of the ear? I think it might have been overblurred a bit..

Re Uploaded. I unblurred the earpink edges and smudged the stripes as good as possible. Tigerbird-The-Great 17:38, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Here is your redline upon request: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=5jzaww&s=8. Its not the best; im sorry about that, but i hope it helps. Define the overall shading.-- 18:13, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry if there is white all over the image, I am currently trying to fix that. Tigerbird-The-Great 19:30, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Did you save the image as a jpg? If so, just convert it to a png. 8:11 PM, Sat Sep 27, 2014

No, it's a png file. Tigerbird-The-Great 20:20, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm. Try putting it back into Pixlr or Paint or something and clearing out the background again. If that doesn't work I can easily download the pic and try myself, if you'd like. 8:24 PM, Sat Sep 27, 2014

Suddenly, the text is green-ish? Darken the stripes a bit, I can hardly see them. 12:48, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

I noticed that too  Define the light on the tail. What program do you use? 12:53 Sun Sep 28

Still working, Tiger?

Yes, I am still working on it. Can someone please erase the white for me? Tigerbird-The-Great 21:36, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tigerbird-The-Great 21:38, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. 21:42, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re upped. I blurred the earpink. Tigerbird-The-Great 21:51, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I fixed the waste for you, since you asked Define the shading on the far paws. 23:04, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re Uploaded. I defined the shading on the paws. Tigerbird-The-Great 16:50, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Let's try for a CBA? I like this and you've improved quite a bit, Tiger.

I fixed the waste for you again 10:34, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt, but define the tail shading a little bit. Then I'll put this back to a CBA. 12:08, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re Uploaded. I fixed the tail shading. 18:03, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Let's go back to CBA again, shall we?

Ancient Tribe Blanks ~ For Approval


(ill crop all of the extra space on the next upload.) Comments? 03:56, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Why do those look slightly different from these? o.o The blanks should be pixel-like, how the ones in your PI are. Also, if you just want to put one long-haired and one short-haired up, that's fine, that way we don't have four extra images. You can just add eyelashes/remove them, depending on which set you have first. The only difference between male and female ones here are the eyelashes.

Because, I tweaked them a bit. I can easily make them pixelated: I just didn't have enough time right this second. I thought I'd just go ahead and post them now, so I can fix anatomy errors while I'm fixing other issues. ^^` -- 04:19, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Elongate the body, and perhaps make the ears a bit thinner. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:28, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Well, like the other blanks, they do have to be pixelated. I wasn't sure that you were aware of that or not, so I figured that informing you would be a good idea. If you could please do that, I would appreciate it. I won't comment much aside from small issues- anatomy is not my strong point.

Maybe flatten the rump a bit. 06:35, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Add a bit more fluff to the longhaired tails? I told you you'd win! 07:59, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

For the longhaired blanks add more fluffiness all around. 3:05 PM, Mon Sep 15, 2014

Would you like a redline? 15:52 Mon Sep 15 2014

Also, in generally I'd recommend flipping them so they don't get confused with the elder blanks. 15:53 Mon Sep 15 2014

Try smoothing rounding out the line about the shoulder, and maybe make the line for the chest reach all the way down? Sorry if I'm being unclear, I'm crap at wording things >< 16:36, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

The forepaw that goes on top of the other one goes up awkwardly, so maybe try to show that it's connected to the leg? Sorry I am really terrible at explaining stuff like this. 20:31 Mon Sep 15

Re-uploaded. Better? ^^' I dont have a tablet, so drawing these with a mouse is difficult. ^^' But, i tried to add all of the above. Im aware that i have to fix the eye on the shorthaired blank, and the ear on the longfurred blank. Im aware of some issues, but i didnt have enough time to fix them on this upload. ^^'-- 02:23, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

They still have to be pixelated, and Breezey's suggestion for flipping them so they don't get confused with the elders is a really good idea. ^^

Make it so this > front paw doesn't look so short and almost rectangle-like. Make it more curved like < this one. These are really good. ^.^ 03:08, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Uhm so I forgot to reflip them around but the image is the same. Here are some redlines. 3:17 Tue Sep 16 2014

Elongate the body more, lower/flatten the rump a bit especially on the longhair, make the tail way fuller, and flatten the forehead a bit. Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:18, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Breezy told me the redlines could be used as a reference, or just lined directly over. The redline helped greatly; thank you, Raelic. Better?-- 04:27, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

This looks really good. :) The only thing I can think of is make the tail even fluffier. Look how full this tail is compared to the rest of the cat: http://thornews.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/norsk-skogkatt1.jpg I can do redlines for the tail if you want. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 04:29, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Also, make the shorthair tail a bit thinner. Jayie Unwritten words~ 04:34, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

It wouldn't hurt to add a bit more fluff to the longhairs all over, methinks. 08:48, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

The lines could be a little bit thinner. i'm still so glad these won because that pose if beautiful imho   Brick   14:45, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

It could probably only be thinner in certain places. I think, comparing it to some of the other blanks we have, they're around the same thickness.

The neck kinda resembles a dragon neck. Can you bring the neck line behind the head a few pixels closer to the nose side of the head? Like move that line over >>>> this way more. 20:35 Tue Sep 16

Can you elongate the body just a tick more? 8:44 PM, Tue Sep 16, 2014

Re-uploaded. I'd rather not elongate it anymore, it looks fine to me. Moved the neck line, fluffified the longfurred more, and made the short fur tail thinner. Better?-- 21:51, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

The arm on <<< this side looks awkward. Move the chest line <<<< more so that the chest appears larger. 23:57 Tue Sep 16

Make the longhair tail fluffier with a tiny bit more of a point to it (look at the Queen and Elder blanks to see what I mean) and the shorthair tail should be even skinnier. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:11, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I think it might be fluffy enough, it just need a bit more of a tapering off at the end. It's the shorthair that needs to be much skinnier. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:59, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Lengthen the visible back leg? It looks a bit short to me.--EosOfTheDawn (talk) 18:10, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

I think for the back leg if you erase a bit of the line separating the leg from the foot it may help. Do you want me to give you a redline? 7:11 PM, Thu Sep 18, 2014

redline as per request. I think if you move the tail out away from the foot a bit more, and elongate the foot and erase a bit of that line it'll help. <span style="">11:19 PM, Thu Sep 18, 2014

I think the shorthair tail should be thinner than that, personally. Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:40, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'd thicken the ruff on the longhair's neck 03:26, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

I will reupload soon. =) Probably sometime this weekend.-- 02:30, September 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better?-- 01:03, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Make the tail on the shorthair thinner, and have more of a tapering off for the tip of the long-haired tail. The thickest part of the tail should be the middle. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:14, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

I did that in the last upload. Do you want me to add more?-- 01:22, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Yes. It looks like you added more bulk to the top of the tail, instead of thinning out the top of the tail and adding more bulk to the middle of the tail. Would you like me to redline? And yes to thinning out the shorthair tail. It's close, it just needs to be a bit thinner, especially when compared to the longhair tail. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:27, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Give the longhair some more floof on the tail. <span style="">1:40 Thu Sep 25

Don't forget to reupload, Breeze. While you aren't required to match the "week limit" without uploads on blanks (that would not be fair in the least, as these require much more time), it's probably a good idea to let us know what kind of progress you've made.

So sorry for the lack of uploads! I've been insanely busy with school. Im working on the reuploaded version now. =)-- 15:26, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps make the longhaired blank's paws a bit more furrier? 19:17, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Dawnpelt (Q) ~ For Approval
When I get this approved I'll be a warrior. c: Shading is smudged once again, but only slightly so I won't mind blurring some but I won't do it too much. Comments? EDIT -- I don't think wikia is showing changes so here~ .. 02:17, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading. 09:24, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I wasn't happy with it anyway :3 Now I am. If changes are not showing.. 13:10, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Oooh, I like this shading style. Define the light source- the legs say it's coming from the front, but the head and tail say the back. 14:07, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks!! c: And yeah dem stupid short-haired tails x.x. I hope the face shading is alright I spent a while on it lol. 18:31, September 23, 2014 (UTC)

Expand the belly shading? 15:29, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

Smooth out the smudges so they don't seem as visible. I think when you're smudging the shading, say if you smudge it vertically, you should probably also smudge it a bit horizontally as well to make blend the shading a little better. Beebs and David both have wonderful examples of smudging on queens, and Paleh's charart, Lilyfur's queen is another marvelous (and very neat) example.

Re-uploaded. Went ahead and redid the shading. I loved both Beebs and David's style but I wanted to try out how Paleh did the amazing shading style. So I tried. :D If changes are not showing.. 19:37, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

Oh that shading is amazing~! Maybe just fedine the edges a little bit? <span style="">9:34 PM, Wed Sep 24, 2014

Re-uploaded. Thanks!! :D If changes are not showing~ 02:09, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

darken the shading, i cant see it at all. 10:16, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 13:01, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Define the facial shading.

Re-uploaded. 22:07, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Comments? 11:19, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

It hasn't even been two days, Darkfrost. Please don't ask for comments unless it's been at least three- anything less than that is making people seem impatient. Define the light a bit on all four legs, face, and tail.

Re-uploaded. Sorry, I honestly thought it was the 29th that day, and I couldn't remove it after posting. The weekend goes by too fast. *.* 12:29, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

Give the shading a bit more depth 15:26, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'd prefer not to touch the shading anymore~ 23:12, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Well, I think in certain spots, it could be darkened. In general, here's where I think it could be. It's as simple as adding another layer of shading just in those spots.

Re-uploaded. Added that layer. And thanks for being specific, because I was getting lost with the other comments and it seemed like I was doing the same stuff over and over again, which is why I just said I don't want to touch it anymore. ;) 00:30, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Comments? 17:11, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Again, Darkfrost. It hasn't been three days or more yet, so please be patient. After three days, then it's fine. I told you before that anything before that is not okay to start asking for comments. I think perhaps the shading could be thinned out on all four legs, since it appears rather thick in some places and initally made me think your color was off. Plus, some images do go without comments and then they get a CBA. It's standard to go a couple days without comments before getting one of those.

Sorry but it has been 3 days (almost four) where I am at the moment. So technically it was a fair question for it has been three days where I am. Anyway I'll do that but I might redo my shading to make it more smooth and hopefully perfect. 20:43, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Redid the shading because, you're right, the smudged shading was messing with Dawnpelt's color, so I went with a blurred shading. It works better and will make getting this approved a lot faster. But I'll continue to practice that type of smudged shading.. 21:20, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

First thing- we go by the wiki clock, and according to that, it was only a little over two days. And- blur the belly shading, it's looking a little bit blotchy. 21:26, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Oh my bad, I misunderstood. x.x 00:34, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading where it would be darker- like perhaps the belly, base of the tail, and back legs.

Re-uploaded. Also played with a few other parts of the shading.. 11:21, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Define he tail shading. 18:24, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine. It is pretty dark and visible already. 18:36, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

You asked for comments on my talk page, and Beebs saw that and provided a critique. You can't pick and choose which comments you want to do when you asked for them. I do in fact agree with Beebs- define does not always mean darken. Define means to "make the shading in question more visible to the eye", and I believe that tail shading could be defined.

Okay okay, thanks Beebs I'll do that. .-. 20:10, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. It's just I hate those damn short-haired tails. x.x It's impossible to get the shading on them just right. Thanks for the comment again, it is appreciated. I'm just in a sour mood because I have a bad cough. :x 20:24, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Red (Kit) - For Approval
This is my first... how should I put this... Serious charart? Anywho, I think I did everything right so yeah. It looks horriable x3  I love me them Sandshoes...   Vixy &lt;3 10!  14:21, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

You're a kit, so the heading should say "For Evaluation". Anyway, not bad! Define the leg shading. 14:37, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

Might as well keep it at "for approval" anyways, since this is more than qualified to get Vixen to the apprentice rank, which is exactly what I'm gonna go do.

Reuploaded :3  I love me them Sandshoes...   Vixy &lt;3 10!  19:41, September 25, 2014 (UTC)

If you look closely, the rogue appears to have a pale underbelly? It's hardly visible, but I think you should add that so it matches? 11:26, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sure. I tried bringing out the brown on her more as well. 13:18, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

This should be called File:Red (SD).kit.png. <span style="">15:40 Fri Sep 26

Fixed. Sorry dunno what happened XD. 16:35, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Smudge the markings some more. This is very nice!! 15:44, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks! :3 19:11, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Comments? 13:52, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

Vixy, please don't ask for comments after 1 day. Please wait at least 3 before asking. When you ask after a day it makes you seem impatient. Blur/lighten your shading a bit, I can't see the markings under it. 17:24, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

Oh and I just noticed some waste down around the paws and under the tail^^ 20:09, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

Oh sorry... Like I've said I'm still new here and I don't know all the rules yet... Anyway, Reuploaded 13:31, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

CBA?

Sorry, but can you define the paler chest, sharpen the stripes, and the ear pink? 03:00, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's fine :3 10:28, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

The lineart appears to be... blurred or something around the face. 16:22, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

I think all the lineart looks blurry, at least to me. Also I noticed waste all around the image. Some in darker specks away from the cat itself. And then some is right next to the lineart. 17:17, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded The lineart was blurry due to the waste around it. As for the face... It seemed fine to me *shrugs* 19:36, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, it wasn't because of the waste around it. I zoomed in on the image in GIMP and I saw that almost every pixel of the lineart is faded. Here, if you drop this on your image it should fix the lineart right up. 21:27, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oh ok thanks :3 23:14, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Seedpaw (A) - CBA
My first try! --Stealthfire star (talk) 03:06, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Darken and define the shading. This is nice for your first try! Let me know if you need any help and/or tutorial vids. :) 03:40, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Reupload Thankyou. Is this better? Stealthfire star (talk) 03:48, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

The file needs to be named File:Seedpaw.apprentice.png. The shading still needs to be defined more, I can't really tell where it starts and ends. I think the earpink should be blurred some more too, right now it it looks almost like a solid line to me. <span style="">04:46, 09/30/2014

Reupload I changed the file name. I tried defining it again. I just need to check just in case, what does defining mean? I've blurred the ear pink. --Stealthfire star (talk) 04:57, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading more 10:53, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Defining is basically making it more visible. Maybe darken your shading 3-4 shades more, rather than using the word "define." I'll give you an example on your page when I get on my computer. 12:30, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Try to avoid re-uploading it to different file names too, like Shimmer said above. <span style="">1:21 PM, Tue Sep 30, 2014

Reupload Thankyou for the advice everyone! I've defined it more but I feel like I've overdone it.

Looks a bit green... Try tinting the shading red? <span style="">00:57, 10/1/2014

Reupload The shading was pure black. I will just make it lighter. I've got the background colour and tinted it red by one point. Does that help? --Stealthfire star (talk) 01:08, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yes! Looks great! But could you define the shading on the two legs closest to us? <span style="">01:11, 10/1/2014

Reupload Does look much better! Thankyou! --Stealthfire star (talk) 01:17, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Uh, sorry to seem impatient but I waited 3 days. What happens now? --Stealthfire star (talk) 04:49, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough and you were patient. I think perhaps just define the overall shading a bit more, and this could probably go to CBA. There's also some waste by --> ear, I think. I'm gonna change the heading to "For Approval", while I'm at it, and make you an apprentice if you're not already one in the project.

Reupload Thankyou! I've made the shading as dark as I possibly can without redoing the shading entirely and I've removed the waste. --Stealthfire star (talk) 05:07, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Sharpen and define the shading, it looks a bit flat. 12:23, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Reupload --Stealthfire star (talk) 22:00, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

So for CBA, I change the heading and fix up when someone posts right? How long does it go for? --Stealthfire star (talk) 22:43, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Only a lead (myself, Beebs, Hawkey, Sorrel, and Skt) is allowed to put an image on CBA...which is what I'm going to do right now... sooooooo, CBA?

Thankyou! --Stealthfire star (talk) 22:53, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Smokefoot (E) ~ For Approval
changes; dear lord, I now really like smudged shading. Comments? 15:25, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a bit more. I kinda wanted you to do this on Honeypaw too, but I forgot to tell you.

Reups Do you mean Plumwillow? 15:14, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yes I did, oops. Honeypaw is mine. Smooth the shading out a little bit more?

Are you sure it's because the changes weren't showing? Have a look. 15:41, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

I saw the changes, and I still think it should be smoothed out a little more. The smudges aren't supposed to be that distinguishable and it should look more like a gradient, from what I've seen on other images.

Reups I'd prefer not to touch it anymore. I also darkened the base a bit. 12:21, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

the base doesn't really need to darkened, right now it looks like it's the same color as the lineart. 23:30, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Reups I could see it fine, but I lightened it a smidge anyhow. I also tweaked the lineart near the rump, since it was just the normal longhaired lineart and it looked odd in contrast to the tufts. 00:04, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps define the shading at the end of the tail? 19:20, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Frost (SC) ~ For Approval
Guess who's back! c: ...And a little out of practice, I'm afraid. <span style="">21:15, 09/30/2014

He's gonna need the texture, like what the rogue image has. Unless he does already have it and I can't see it? Also, lighten the shading just a bit.

Re-uploaded Yeah, there was texture, it was just way too light, oops. I darkened it some. <span style="">21:50, 09/30/2014

Lighten the stomach shading some. 22:13, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten the overall shading some more. Its making it look pretty gray. My suggestion would either be lighten the opacity, or using a blue-ish tint. Thats up to you, though.-- 23:30, September 30, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded It's really not that dark, you can easily tell that he's white. I did mess with it a bit though. <span style="">00:36, 10/1/2014

Lighten everywhere except for the face and tail shading? Just a tiiiny bit? <span style="">00:58, 10/1/2014

Lighten shading, show more white on the cheek and muzzle, and especially on that left ear. I can tell what you were trying to do, but the shadow looks awkward when the light's supposed to be pointed right at it. Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:20, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Define the texture more. welcome back Shim!! c: 03:56, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">18:35, 10/5/2014

The white on his face looks a bit gray... perhaps whiten it a bit? 19:22, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Crouchfoot (Alt W) ~ For Approval
Black cats are fun. It's October time to get spooooooooooky! oh crap my hard drive is making a bad ticking noise oh crap oh crap oh crap... <span style="">9:43 PM, Wed Oct 1, 2014

Define the shading, it kinda gets lost in the black pelt <span style="">16:53 Fri Oct 3

Reup Lightened the base coat a smidge, darkened the shading a bit, and defined it. <span style="">8:54 PM, Sat Oct 4, 2014

Lighten him a little more. I know he's supposed to be black but not black enough that you can hardly see the shading or anything else. 23:29, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

The shade needs to match his other images, which it does. Seeing all the lineart is not mandatory.

then the other images need to be lightened because if it's so dark enough you can't see the outlline, then there's a problem with that. 23:38, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

The other images are fine. This was colorpicked from the apprentice and lightened about 2 ticks on the darkness bar to account for the apprentice's shading. I can see nothing wrong with his base coat now, becuase I can see the shading and mandatory lineart (like the eyes, nose, whiskers, etc). <span style="">12:06 AM, Sun Oct 5, 2014

Define the shading/light/ect on the tail- it appears rather flat. Shading on short-haired tails is illegal lmao

Grasspelt (Star)~ For Approval
My first charart to becoming an apprentice! It's Grasspelt as a starclan cat, I was suprised no one had chosen him to do yet  12:45, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Lovely eyes! It's surrounded by waste, though, and define the light on the tail. 13:06, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

You need to reserve this image in the table on the front page for the project.

Reupload Lightened the tail, and fixed the 'blocky' look of the highlights on the front paws, in case anyone noticed. The eyes aren't my favorite, but I don't know how to do better. '3'  23:05, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

The shading is leaking away from the back, right near the tail. If you don't understand where I'm talking about, it's right here. Just add a bit more shading there. Also, define the light on the tail (you can either remove soe shading or add a highlight on top of it. Removing shading will probably be your best bet) <span style="">23:15, 10/2/2014

Changing heading to "For Approval", and making you an apprentice, since you clearly know the basics and have done quite well for your first charart.

Reupload Took care of the business with the tail, it looks a lot better. I'm going to keep this up until this gets approved, I am so happy right now, and thank you Snow. - 23:49, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

There's some waste by the shoulder and head. 07:18, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Blur or smudge the earpink <span style="">08:39 Fri Oct 3

Reupload I tried blurring the ears a bit more, Amber, but I use Pixlr so I just erased the ear base a little to make it appear blurred. Also, I fixed the waste, I caught it finally. Finally, I added some star sparkles to the eyes. In total, this image so far has the most layers I've used for a charart (personal or not): 16. - 12:15, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

There's still waste. On the lineart layer, bucket tool the whole outside of the lineart in a color other then black, select by color, and then erase it all on every layer. That'll get rid of it, on GIMP at least. 16:18, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Reupload I'm ready, if I ever met Grasspelt irl, to punch him. I'm just annoyed, but I wouldn't really do that >3<'. Caught it, I thought it was the shading but it's the highlights. Comments on eyes? - 18:56, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

You need to use Grasspelt.star.png when reuploading. You can upload over the same file multiple times.

Reupload Fixed the file name - 18:56, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a tad? <span style="">19:11 Fri Oct 3

Update I lost the file with the layers in it, I'm not kidding. My chromebook restarted ;3; I'll try my best, but don't be surprised it if it looks dramatically different. - 19:20, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Aww that sucks, good luck! <span style="">19:21 Fri Oct 3

Define the earpink a bit (if this is the reuploaded file idk) <span style="">21:36, 10/3/2014

Still not the correct file name. It has to be File:Grasspelt.star.png, not File:Grasspelt.starclan.png <span style="">10:26 PM, Sat Oct 4, 2014

lighten the shading all together. 23:28, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

There's still a bit of waste and the right paw's light needs to be defined. Nice job! 19:34, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

The < pupil looks a bit warped because of all the white. If you expanded the pupil a bit more that could work. It's not mandatory so if someone thinks that's not a big deal it's coolio with me. I'm a nitpicker :3 16:20, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Lilyheart (Alt W) ~ For Approval
This has to match her alt kit (and therefore her alt app needs to be redone). Comments? 22:08, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

I didn't think alts had to match, but ok. Define the shading a tiiiiiiiiiiiny bit? 22:10, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Alts do not have to match. So her alt apprentice does not need to be redone and if you want to redo this pattern, you can. But they certainly do not have to match. 23:10, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Skye told me it has to be redone, since all that happened to Lily was that she moved up a rank, but I'll see for other opinions. 23:10, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Exactly, Beebs. That "alts don't have to match" is only counted when the descriptions have nothing to do with each other- this tortie set has everything to do with each other, so they should match. Plus, it's insulting to the artist to ignore their work.

re-up 23:19, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

her hind foot closest to us (and maybe a little part of her haunch/leg or whatever it is too) needs to have tortie pattern on it. 01:01, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

re-up 02:50, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Looking at the kit, I think her lower haunch (near the feet-area) would have some tortie on it, so go ahead and add some?

re-up 18:29, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Crouchfoot (A) ~ For Approval
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Lighten the shading on his shoulder. 23:28, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <span style="">1:12 Sun Oct 5

Define the light on the chest a bit more. sorry I've meant to reply to your message but I've been up to my elbows in work and school. I promise I'll reply later x.x lol. And this is gorgeous!! 12:39, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, with this light source I'm using I don't think there'd be that much light on the chest. Thank you, though! <3 <span style="">20:26 Mon Oct 6

Whiskernose (E) - For Approval
changes So I'm quite proud of this. <span style="">16:32 Sun Oct 5

The shading looks like it's leaking away from the lineart in a few areas, like on the chest and the front leg closest to us. I also think the shading on those parts could be lighten for it looks a little blotchy than the rest of the shading. I like this .o. 12:36, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

The shading looks fine to me, and it doesn't seem blotchy at all. Could you smudge and/or blur the ear pink a bit?

Oh no I just saved the file =/ anyway, Reups! changes are here <span style="">16:58 Mon Oct 6

Define the shading/light on the tail and legs? <span style="">22:06, 10/6/2014

Stoatfur (BS) (Warrior) ~ For Approval
This is my first offical warrior pixel, Stoatfur (BS), I am rubbish at shading, and texturing, the colours were taken from the apprentice image. So, any comments?

- I'm not random, you just can't think as fast as me ~ { Firrel (Ruefrost) } 22:48, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Oh wow, this is good. .o. Could you lighten up the shading a bit though? It clashes with the pelt slightly.

I think the shading on the tail is fine, tbh. But the rest of the body, yes. This is wonderful for a first! please teach me how you art <span style="">22:42, 10/5/2014

REUPLOADED Oh, thank you! You're all so kind! I've lightened up the shading, a tad bit, but I don't think the changes are showing -- I'm not random, you just can't think as fast as me ~ { Firrel (Ruefrost) } 22:54, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Sorry, just noticed that the pelt is shining way to much! -- I'm not random, you just can't think as fast as me ~ { Firrel (Ruefrost) } 22:54, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Define the earpink a tad? holy $h!t this is amazing! <span style="">10:59 PM, Sun Oct 5, 2014

REUPLOADED Haha, thank you Rocket! I attempted to define the ear shading but, I don't think it shows well enough. -- I'm not random, you just can't think as fast as me ~ { Firrel (Ruefrost) } 23:09, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Add a few more stripes on the haunch to match the apprentice. This is beautiful 07:26, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Oh, thank you very much! I've added a few stripes to the hauch but didn't wish to add anymore because that might ruin the design, I defined the ear pink more, and I also added stripes in other places. -- I'm not random, you just can't think as fast as me ~ { Firrel (Ruefrost) } 17:15, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

pretty pretty pretty o.o define the light on the legs 17:16, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Aww, you all are so kind, to me! I've defined the light on the front legs. I'm not random, you just can't think as fast as me ~ { Firrel (Ruefrost) } 19:12, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the haunch a tiny bit? I /know/ it's there, I just can't see it well. <span style="">22:05, 10/6/2014

Ivytail (SC) (E) ~ For Approval
04:34, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Define the tail shading. How did you match this pattern?? 07:24, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Stormcloud (Lo) ~ For Approval
I love these blanks. 07:23, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading a bit, please.

Heronwing (Alt.Warrior) - For Approval
So much stripe :o 19:02, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and define the shading a tad. Lovely job as always, Sziri. 19:59, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

The stripes don't look blurred on his apprentice, and I think the shading could be blurred a bit, instead of defined. This should also be named File:Heronwing.warrior.alt.png. Would you like me to rename it for you?

Lionblaze (Alt. Warrior) ~ For Approval
First time I've truely loved how my texture came out (thank you for the tutorial, Ferk). Comments? 21:07, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

His eyes should be amber, like his other images. Also blur/smudge the shading (whatever your preference is) so it's a bit smoother. Could you also smudge or smooth out the texture a bit more too? All in all (I'm being nitpicky), this is really good. .o.

Reuploaded. I didn't realize the eyes had to match even if it's an alt. And thanks. 21:26, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hey no problem! I'm sorry I never got around to that other one.... Oops. Anyway, friend, the texture on the tail should curve with the tail. It looks like it's all going one way. I wanna know how everyone gets their texture to look feathery like this. Please tell me how. Mine looks blocky and lame. <span style="">22:04, 10/6/2014

Tawnypelt (Alt Q) - For Approval
pregnant orange cats are like pumpkins <span style="">21:54, 10/6/2014