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Mousefang (W) - Redone
Shading fail. Anyways, Here's Mousefang. I redid the shading, but I don't think I like the pattern. Might choose another pattern for this one. Anyways, comments? 05:18, July 13, 2011 (UTC) Oh! And I believe the original artist was Shaf Girl :) 05:20, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

All I can say is define the shading alittle and make the earpink fill in the ear correctly--

The eye is misshapen, blur shading on the chest, thicken shading on the haunch a tad, make the earpink proper, and I'm pretty sure you're supposed to shade/highlight the tail the other way.-Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 06:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)<

Plus, the erpink looks a little missapen at the bottom, and the chest shading needs to go on the chin as well. The eye color is too neon. 14:02, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink, and blur teh shading on the chest. 16:49, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred as much as I could, darkened eye, fixed eye, darkened earpink, lightened shading at some parts, fixed tail shading, added chin shading, fixed anglement of the earpink...and... yeah. xD 17:35, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink a bit more. :P 19:29, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 23:42, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Changes were showing, but not anymore. It stopped showing the changed before those two past comments, but it wouldn't let me edit xD 00:03, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, changes are showing again. Sorry I was at the beach all day, re-comments? 01:57, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is blotchy. Would you like me to help as I did with Whitewing, or can you do it? Mintstar This time for Africa! 02:05, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her neck. Looks great otherwise~ Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject. 19:37, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I blurred as much as I could. Mintstar: I'm sorry that you're doing all this for me ^^' You don't have to blur it though, but thanks anyways :D Getting a new computer soon, it will be great starting from scratch.. 19:09, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, just blue the earpink a tad more~ Chell; Aperture Science Test Subject. 20:41, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thanks :D 00:54, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ear pink still looks kinda crooked --

Re-uploaded. 03:21, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading under the ear and the stomach shading where the haunch meets the upper body, close to the back. 03:22, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 18:23, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading. 21:53, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 17:27, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading looks a little too concentrated, if you know what I mean. Maybe it's just me ♔Sunspirit♔Back in... uh, yellow? 07:56, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'll fix it. Just letting everyone know that the changes are no longer showing. 16:00, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is blotchy, and I don't think blurring it will help. Try redoing it? Mintstar I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 22:48, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm working on this, just trying to do it all on GIMP. GIMP is new to me so it might take a day or so. It'll be up by tomorrow. Sorry. 17:24, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, Re-uploaded. I know the shading needs to be blurred some, but here is my GIMP version ^^' Never to use Pixlr again...hopefully :3 Thanks to Frostheart who gave me her GIMP tutoiral on Teamviewer...lol. 18:26, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Add/darken shading on the haunch. Lovely! Snowdazzle¹²³Lets count numbers! 18:32, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'll fix that little strange line next reupload. Do you think I should darken the legs? :P And thanks Snowdazzle :D 01:20, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink, highlights and shading, lighten the higlights and they're are pink blots in the background, I'm not sure if you'd notice it, so I made a picture. Also, shorten the neck shading. ♔Sunspirit♔Back in... uh, yellow? 11:30, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights are fine. I'm proud of you Splashpelt XD, but do redden the earpink, and I know it's hard to find the right color for the ear on these colored cats. Mintstar I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 23:15, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights with the shading more. 16:02, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Pull the earpink down- so that the bottom most tip of the earpink is a little bit closer to the bottom most tip of the ear itself. Also blur the shading and highlights more. Sorry, forgot to sign above. Salcie 21:04, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste around the charart (e.g. above the ear, beside the muzzle, under the tail, etc) 14:12, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I hate this image so much. Rainwhisper helped me out some because I've worked so hard on the shading xP 15:38, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The original artist was Bramble. Now, this might sound stupid, but I think the colour is all wrong now. She looks more ginger than sandy brown... might I suggest going back to the original approved version (before previous Tweak Weeks) and editing that one to improve the shading, whilst keeping the gorgeous colour the original image had? Just my two cents. 21:01, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

The image at the top of this section is half-covered in a light, yellowish mist thing. It looks weird, and the yellow mist lightens the lineart to a grayish-yellow in some places.-Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 06:18, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry guys, but I've fiddled with this too much. I can never make it look suitable no matter how much time I put into this. I'm withdrawing this for now, someone else is free to take over. Sorry D: 01:15, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

May I take over? I'm not doing any chararts, currently. 01:15, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, Misty. Go right ahead. Redden the ear-pink, define and darken the shading on the the top of the shoulders, and add highlights to the fronts of the forelegs and drag the shading towards the backs, if that makes any sense xP ♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens♌ 03:05, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, but I think I'll just re-do it. xD 09:48, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Comments? 18:48, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Darken, or desaturate the earpink, looks a bit...vivid. Nice work. (hope no one minds me deleting the extra coding) 01:25, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great ^.^ Fix the miscolored lineart on the head and eye :3 Also, move the earpink up some. 01:33, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights 01:47, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Since this is being worked on, the heading should be changed ^^; The earpink is a bit neon as well. 03:28, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Delete the white section left to the haunch and right to the leg closest to us. It isn't transparent. Also, The face highlight is coming into her face, so it is blurring the lineart all around it. May I suggest getting the warrior lineart and deleting the all the white inside it and then copying it over the image? Sorry if that was confusing. Make the earpink smaller and move it further up the ear. ♔Sunspirit♔Back in... uh, yellow? 10:08, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, I'm redoing the shading again. xD 15:47, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Better now? Remember, this is to redo the shading, so I'm not changing earpink, eyes, etc. :P 15:55, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, changes still aren't showing. 16:03, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

The shading seems a bit inconsistent. Like near the shoulder it's darker, but by the haunch it's lighter. Also I think if people say there's something wrong with the eyes, earpink, etc. then you should do it because this is redone and Tweak Week is supposed to make things look better. 17:29, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good! But the ear pink can be a little smaller.Leaf-storm,13:42,august 10,2011 (UTC)

@Rainy; It does make sense to fix the eyes and earpink, too, anyway, if I had to. xD but the shading on the current file, which has started to show up, has consistent shading, and the shoulder isn't darker than the haunch. I think you saw the wrong file upload. Also, you commented after 25 hours after the last upload... 15:43, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Russetfur (W) - Redone
Meh, Froon convinced me to get off my lazy butt and do a charart :] This charart was originally supposed to be tweaked, but I was having issues with the shading, so I just redid it :P 02:50, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a bit more ;3 First Foxleap, and now Russetfur... We think alike cuz' ;D 03:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Change the file name to Russetfur.warrior.png so it replaces the old one. 03:21, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh, the changes aren't showing xP Oh, and I can't make it a .png because my computer won't let me upload it if it's a .png. 03:58, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

And FYI, the changes don't show when I first put the picture there for me too, but they appear after you publish it. Odd. Lol. 04:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think you're meant to say who did the charart before it was tweaked? I believe it was Dawnleaf :D. This is really pretty. Lighten the earpink though and there is a garbage around the top of the tail, a brown pixel I think :3 This is good Nighty! ♔Sunspirit♔Back in... uh, yellow? 08:07, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Earpink looks really blotchy; I'll fix it in the next upload. 23:44, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

You should continue the stripes into the face, so it looks more natural instead of just the body and tail. 13:51, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I honestly think that this looks amazing with or without stripes in the face. ;) But I think the ear pink could be blurred a little more; it seems to straight on the bottom edge to me. 21:26, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tail shading a bit. 16:45, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe try to lighten the ear pink just a bit? With her pelt color it is hard to see it. But other than that, the pelt, stripes, shading and blurring looks amazing!Fallenstars 04:29, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Russetfur (D) - Redone
Russetfur's deputy charart. She needed stripes, so I redid her overall. Original artist was Echomist. Anyways, comments? 01:58, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Changes aren't showing...but who knows about these things xD 01:59, July 27, 2011 (UTC) (re-uploaded the image :3)

Darken the shading and make the stripes more like her other image. :3 02:10, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 02:26, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Changes won't show >.< (Edit: I renamed the file, I got it to show :3) 02:28, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make her look more dark ginger, she looks brown. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 03:16, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Mintclaw, I thought the same thing when I first looked at the pic. It's pretty, though. I haven't even figured out how to work with Adobe Illustrator or Adobe Photoshop.

Re-uploaded. Changes may or may not be showing, but the changed one is darker all together xD And to who ever signed above, remember to sign with four ~'s and refrain from repeating comments ;3 20:40, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

It still needs to be a little more ginger, because the stripes appear brown. But I could be wrong, after all I'm still an apprentice. 22:47, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ivystripe, it doesn't matter if you were an apprentice or not, you were right xD 01:47, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton. Looks good either way. =) 22:10, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Echomist...oh god, I miss her. Um, blur the shading more as Skye stated, make the stripes more...gingerish xD, and blur the ear pink. 00:29, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

You and Nightflower will have to converse, as the pelt markings don't look the same. One of you guys are gonna have to tweak the stripes. 20:49, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I redid the color all together. I'll talk to Nightflower on skype, we'll both upload our images together, probably on Teamviewer or something. 01:01, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Since my image hasn't had any comments for three days, and Nightflower still has comments to take care of, should she copy my stripe pattern? Sorry if I have to make Nightflower redo her beautiful image, but I haven't had any comments. If Nightflower refuses to redo her's, I'll try to make my pattern exactly like her's. 18:54, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Is the stripes on Russetfur (D) the same as Russetfur (W)? 19:16, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

No, that's the thing. Should Nightflower copy my stripes, or me copy hers? My point is written out in my previous comment :P 01:35, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say you should talk it over with her and see what she wants to do. 23:35, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I copied everything from what Nightflower has done. 03:33, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Changes won't show. 03:35, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tail stripes. 16:47, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Just to let everyone know, the revised version is the second one one on the history. 17:41, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Try re-uploading it again. It worked with me for Raggedstar, Jayfeather, and Mistyfoot. ♌The Star that cannot Return  to the Heavens ♌ 02:31, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can you define the stripes on her tail? They are not really showing.Fallenstars 04:35, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Go to the details to see the revised version, it's the one with the darker tail stripes. 21:47, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Guh, I'm getting so sick of this -.- It's not in the details page, so don't bother looking there. 21:49, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can you possibly blend the neck shading in with the rest of it? It still stands out a tad. Other then that, this looks amazing! 01:58, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. If the changes still aren't showing from my last revision, I know they're not for this either. -.- 05:06, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Really? They are now? This is confusing me so much. 05:07, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Starlingpaw (A) - Tweaked
The original artist was myself. It has been requested that he needs tabby stripes. I've also blended the shading more thoroughly as it wasn't brilliant. 11:49, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe blur the shading just a little bit more? :3 12:17, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see the tabby stripes, darken them a bit more. 13:43, July 27, 2011 (UTC) Beautiful! Lakewillow 22 16:24, July 27, 2011 (UTC)Lakewillow 22


 * Finally the changes are showing up. Silvereye, I'm not sure I can blur the shading any more withou blurring the stripes, but I'll give it a go. Icestorm, can you see them now that the file has updated, or do they still need to be darker? I'm trying to find a middle ground between having the stripes and making sure they're not too dark as he is a ginger cat rather than a ginger tabby as such. Just let me know. 22:32, July 27, 2011 (UTC) :Yes, I can see him. Good job! You might want to darkent he shading a bit more.  23:30, July 27, 2011 (UTC) ::Reuploaded  07:15, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Add a little shading to the left ear -- 07:22, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * The left ear is highlighted due to the direction of the light source coming from the left hand side of the image. There is shading to the right of the image, and highlights along the back and back of the ear. For this reason, the right ear is not highlighted as it would not fall directly into the light, where as the back of the ears would, hence the left ear is highlighted rather than shaded. Hope that makes sense (: 07:33, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on his tail (if possible, since the tail is skinny.) Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 15:33, July 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded 21:33, July 28, 2011 (UTC) :Fix the lineart on his chest.  21:54, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I can't see where it's broken, and quite honestly need to sleep right now as it's nearly midnight. I'll be gone for a week, so if someone would like to fix whichever pixel my tired eyes can't spot, that would be much appreciated. Alternatively, just point it out a little more specifically and I can fix it when I return. Sorry. 22:40, July 30, 2011 (UTC)


 * I checked, and the lineart is fine. Unless you're seeing something I'm not, which may be possible. 05:17, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tail stripes a bit, looks great! 16:49, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (A) - Redone
Original artist was Sandstar12/Goldenpaw. He had to be mottled and given spiky fur- basically he had to match his description. The changes aren't showing yet. 16:08, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is good, but you might want to blur/ smooth out the lines/spikes that you put in the main fur. Salcie 20:19, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Your seeing the version that was before the one I made, so if you go to his file page and look at the second image in the image history you'll see what he's supposed to look like. x3 21:08, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more shading to the spiked part of the fur on the body (yes, I'm looking at your newest version...nice!) 22:41, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Mkay the changes are showing now. ;3 I didn't add spiky fur to his body, only to the lineart. There's mottled on the body though. 23:41, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Give him white shoulders, like it is in his descpitoion. Maple♥poolSchool? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 19:13, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 20:45, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

The white shoulder looks weird from a side-view...I think you should remove it, and just put a dab of white on the shoulder. 21:19, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well it is in his desc...but I agree it looks WERID.....Maple♥poolSchool? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 21:39, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe blend the white a bit more so it looks less shocking? 23:26, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

I agree about just bledning the white in more. I also think you should dark the leg closest to us since he's sitting and therefore keeping it in the shade. Fawngaze 20:19, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Oh woops, forgot to say '''Reuploaded. '''I don't think the changes are showing yet though xP. 01:45, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the gray a bit or smooth the transition from gray to white, it looks a bit sharp. Define the ear-pink and brighten it a tad. <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ 04:00, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''But Scarletwind I don't think the changes were showing when you commented, so I didn't blend it anymore. If you saw the changes though, then just tell me. 18:04, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

Inside the white patch on his shoulder, there looks like there's a patch of really saturated white. Can you blur that? It just looks a bit unnatural. Otherwise, this looks beautiful. <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ 02:57, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 20:04, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think that the transition from the shoulder highlight to the front leg could be smoother. But this looks superb! :) 21:28, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I think you might be talking about the white patch on his shoulder. It's supposed to be like that. :3 01:20, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

It didn't say JUST his shoulders were white right? It'd look more..... realistic I guess if the white was like this. That's just my opinion though, you don't HAVE to make it like that. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:26, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

It looks pretty good like that, but you can keep it this way; darken the tail shading. 16:51, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Guh. I had to use Pixlr since I don't have GIMP anymore. ;-; 23:48, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Brokenstar (E) - Tweaked
I pray that none of you ever have to add torn ears to elders. Scarletwind was the original artist and I just added torn ears. 15:18, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Good job! I don't see anything wrong with this, really, but I'll wait for more comments before approving this. 15:24, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Could you thicken the lines on the ears so they're the same depth as the other lines? Unless they're supposed to be a little thinner. 21:02, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I tried that, but it looked really... Just bad. ._. 00:00, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste where you edited the ears. 00:37, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Can you make them look a little more natural? Sorry...but they seem...too pointy. *waits to be shot by Moonflight* 15:40, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. Elder ears are mean to me anyway. xD 23:31, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

re-uploaded. 16:57, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! The lineart of the ear in front is a bit hard to see; but just thcken it by about one pixel, and it should be done. ;D 16:55, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Brokenstar (W) - Tweaked
Added torn ears. Original artist was moi~ ;3 Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 02:28, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

The changes still aren't showing, maybe try to re-upload it again. <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ 17:03, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

They're showing now :3 Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 17:10, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely. Redden the ear-pink and darken the shading. <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ 17:12, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I have this reserved... and you don't. But you can have it. Just please, reserve things next time. 21:50, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I'm sorry 3:. I didn't check the reservations table... Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 22:04, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Elorisa, are you still working on this? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 03:27, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestar (D) - Tweaked
Original artist was Mumble785, and she needed to be darkend, white muzzle removed, and the earpink was inconsistent. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 00:58, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Too much contrast between the highlights and the shading.. x( make them blend into eachother more and blurr it -- 01:26, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- The earpink was bugging me. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 15:37, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Now give the tail more highlight -- 17:19, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

The tail highlight looks fine to me, and that was past 24 hours. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 19:45, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

I don't really see anything wrong with this.. Great job! 03:55, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

There is some highlights on the foot and tail, it looks a bit weird and out of place. Looks great! 00:45, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

It's supposed to be like that :D. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 13:53, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't she still need silver around her muzzle to match her leader image? 22:53, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

No, she didn't have any as a deputy. She wasn't old. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:21, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I just thought that was always a part of her look. 14:51, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Mistyfoot (D) ~ Redone
Original artist was Sandstar12. Comments? <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ 02:10, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading tons. The earpink needs to be smaller. The shading also needs to be thinner. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 02:26, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

And rename this 'Mistystar.deputy', so it replaces the original image. 03:24, August 2, 2011 (UTC) Blur the ear pink. 14:22, August 2, 2011 (UTC) There's some waste around the head. 16:08, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading or redo it, it's very blotchy. 18:43, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

It's so odd... Whenever I try to re-upload over the old Misystar Deputy file, it gives me a permission error and doesn't work. So, that's why I haven't updated this yet. Has this happened to anyone else or does it only happen to this file? <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ 00:09, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Icestorm has also told me that she can't upload over her deputy file, so for now, I'm going to withdraw this until we can get these problems figured out. <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ 19:49, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. Mistystar's working with to try and get this to work. So, I take that back. xP ♌The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens♌ 21:19, August 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Uploading over Mistystar's deputy file still isn't working so, I'm going to keep uploading over the old Mistyfoot file for now. ♌The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens♌ 13:13, August 4, 2011 (UTC) : Have you blurred the shading on 100% with the biggest brush you could? That usually blurs it very well. (sorry if I'm telling you something you already know ^^; ) 03:39, August 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Re-uploaded. Don't think changes are showing up yet. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 03:12, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Changes are showing up. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:56, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Changes are showing up. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:56, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Changes are showing up. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 01:56, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

To me, her shading makes her look dappled, I don't know if you were going for that though. -- 02:20, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 03:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading, also, make the earpink smaller. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 21:18, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

There is alot of waste under her chest, under her haunch, under he forearm, under her tail, under her chin Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 22:46, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:04, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Birchfall (W) ~ Tweaked
The original artist was SparrowWing. I just added/darkened shading. 03:33, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

The ear-pink is to like....dark neon....Maple♥pool<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;"><sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:20, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Also, it looks kind of sloppy on the haunch. Good job. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 14:59, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:17, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. Could you change the eye pixel? It's too much of a dark orange, make it brighter. 18:42, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Also, the muzzle doesn't look blurred at all, so that could be fixed. Otherwise it looks good! 02:29, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:20, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, Rainy. Looks good otherwise! 05:39, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 13:36, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Triangularize the ear pink. If that's not a real word, then it is now. :) 23:28, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

The paws need to be blurred more and there are some ouh spots around the lineart. Darkhallows Enter the cave? 01:13, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is looking great- I really like the tabby stripes. The earpink is a little low, though, if you know what I mean. 00:13, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

The original artist was actually me not sparrowwing anyways in the paws and on lineart near the tail the shading is kind of...sharpened so if you can you should try and blur it a little. Also near the chest fur it looks like there's an edge to it like the fur doesn't belong so if you can fix that..yea anyways nice job  --bracken-- ~ 19:05, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:59, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

it looks awesome but theres like a bit of a box of possibly left over shading...you think you can fix that? --bracken-- ~ 21:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

A box? Where..? 04:18, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Running Horse (E) - Tweaked
Alright, original artist was Ashshadow, added graying muzzle, and it said he had scant fur, so I added scant fur :3. Comments? Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 15:11, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

>Nice job. Brighten the brown. 15:27, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by brighten it? He's a dark brown tom. this is dark brown. Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 15:52, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Bring the graying fur on the top his the muzzle too and darken it a tad. Also, I know the tweaking says nothing about this, but define the ear-pink too. <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">♌ 16:46, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I know, but it's like....reddish brown. So brighten it a bit. 17:12, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I couldn't brighten it without getting frustrated with how pink it looked, so I redid it. Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 18:31, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

He looks like he's bleeding. D: Try going with a more fleshy tone. 18:56, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

The shading and the lineart is all messed up now. It still needs to be lightened a tad more. 19:51, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the patches need to be lightened. Since it says he has scant fur, what you could do was pake him a fleshy color, then add random parts of pelt color on to the skin and blur it in, that way it would look like his fur was thinning. It's just a thought. If not, you'd have to add more fleshy patches to his fur. 01:34, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

^ Ivy, that actually sounds like an interesting idea :). I think I'll try making him a fleshy color and then add patches of fur onto him. Hopefully my serverly-dwindled art skills won't make it look like he needs to wear a bag on his head...;-;. Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 02:20, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, so, I attempted to try what Ivy suggested. I can change it back to normal if desired, but I'm diggin how this looks right now :3. Pianokey; Frédéric François Chopin. 02:54, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Is there such a thing as too blured and smudged? Because it looks a little....odd. Other than that darken ths shading a bit 16:00, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think you forgot the link, I linked it for you! Moonstream 04:01, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ok the blue is where there is something coming out of the picture, and the green is where some pixls are colored differntly. Maple♥poolSchool? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:36, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the skin more a pale brownish color. Brown-colored Sphynx and example. -- 03:45, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Are you going o upload this, it has been six days... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:43, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Copperpaw (A) - Tweaked (Redone)
The original artist was Sandstar12 and then tweaked by GroceryBag. I added stripes, and added more shading because it wasn't too visible. I don't know if this would be considered tweaked or redone, because I did this all on the original image, but it looks kind of like it was redone. xD So, comments? 20:00, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Amazing job, Roo. I see nothing wrong with it, really. 21:39, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

lighten the shading on the top haunch (Sorta on the back) -- 23:34, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Distinguish the stripes on the legs. 15:29, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the tail. 17:35, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing. 00:02, August 11, 2011 (UTC)'''

Jayfeather (MCA) ~ Redone
Here he is. Jayfeather's mca redone. Changes aren't showing up yet. ♌The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens♌ 04:11, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes thinner, like on his MC image, and then blur them his tailtip is a darker color than his stripes. Maple♥poolSchool? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 15:19, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ♌The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens♌ 22:21, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

There's some stray lines hanging out around the base of his tail. Erase them.-- ♩ Shimmerpool ♪ Never B ♭ ♫ Sometimes B ♯ ♬ But Always B ♮ 04:12, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. ♌The Star that cannot Return to the Heavens♌ 04:38, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights on the haunch Wildfire<sup style="color: gray;">Hazelx <sup style="color: brown;">Thorn! 16:09, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

There's still some waste by his tail. 21:41, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the stripes. Also, the stripes get lost in the shading. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 23:00, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make it more like his kit + apprentice + medicine cat blanks. The stripes look nothing like the stripes on his other images. 15:02, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Take the color from his MCA image, or WA image maybe? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 23:07, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I completely redid the stripes, and changes to color to those from his apprentice charart. I can only hope that I didn't make it worse... xP I kinda picked a bad time to try a different type of tabby I've never worked with before. heheheh... Anyway, comments? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 23:48, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Better, there is some waste under his tail, and there is a line coming out of his paws, blur the mottled paws, give him a shorter tail too. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 15:59, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 21:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

It looks a bit flat. So define some of the shading and possibly darken the eye color. Looks great! 21:52, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Still waste under the tail. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 22:43, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. @Atelda, I was keeping his eye color really pale since he is blind and I used the same colors from the eye-color in his MC charart. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 22:54, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more. 19:14, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:05, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Mothwing (MC) - Tweaked
I think I've got mottles down now. The original artist was Hiddensun, and it needed mottles. I think they mostly got lost in the stripes. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 16:03, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see shading. Is this how the image is supposed to be? 05:34, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't really like this. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 17:09, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add more mottles/stripes? Other than, looking good! ❋Snowpuff❃You make me feel... 21:20, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't really need any more mottles, I just think she needs a defineable stripe on her face and a larger one on her tail. 21:24, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I hadn't realized that I left one of the dapples unblurred. These are dapples, not mottles, sorry for the mistake. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 23:01, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are really awkward. I hate to say this, but I honestly think they need to be redone. Darkhallows Enter the cave? 01:22, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Could you explain what you mean by "awkward?" Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 14:42, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

I second your opinion, Darkhallows. I think she meant they were awkward because they went at different angles and there isn't enough, they look really weird and non-realistic. 15:00, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

The herbs seem a little bright to me, so if you think the color is fine, then I guess darken the shading. 03:57, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I hate the shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:21, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

It looks better! But the stripes are a little blotchy on the legs. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">Snowdazzle Severus Snape.  19:41, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I don't know how stripes can be blotchy, so I blurred them. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:30, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the neck. 19:12, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

The haunch lineart closest to her front leg looks kind of...chewed? Or kind of like the pelt color went over it. 21:39, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- I fixed the lineart problem. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 02:41, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yellowfang (MCA)~ Tweaked
I added a torn ear, and shortened the muzzle. I cant shorten it any more without removing the whiskers. Comments? Original artist was Scaletwind. 16:32, August5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, it's way too dark. I know you it isn't your problem, but you still should. Make the nicked ear lineart thicker, and if possible make it deeper. 21:29, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the jagged shading into her pelt more so it will look more natural. 21:31, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the torn ear a bit more noticable. 17:26, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make both of her ears torn, like in her other images. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 23:02, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 18:58, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

The torn ear in front could be thickened a bit, and a bit deeper. 19:09, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like the scar that is on the bottom is just a pixil, make it the same or nearly the same length as the others, otherwise it looks kinda weird. Also, I think you forgot to color in the pixil of the herb where she's holding on to it, but I can't really tell. If you have, darken it (I know, picky picky D: ) 21:38, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Brokenstar (Ki) - Tweaked
original artist was Willowheart. I just tore the ears Darkhallows Enter the cave? 04:10, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Make the scars a little deeper on both. Just to match the others. 04:16, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wait...why does a KIT need torn ears?....On the torn ear on <-this side is deeper than the one on -> side Maple♥poolSchool? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:50, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

The torn ears could be torn more on both. 17:14, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

The torn ear on <--- side, like the bottom of the ear is bothering me, but i still don't see why a kit needs torn ears, unless he fought has a kit, he wouldn't have torn ears... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 23:00, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

He probably did fight as a kit, I guess if it says otherwise in Yellowfang's Secret, go ahead and keep doing this. 19:52, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Brokenstar (A) - Tweaked
original artist was Shimmer. I just torn the ears. Darkhallows Enter the cave? 04:10, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the lineart on the ear away from us. Mintclaw I may be bad, but I'm good at it! 14:47, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the other ear too. 17:08, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Lionblaze (K) ~ Redone


Original artist was Sparrowsong; redone as longhair. Comments? I got all the colors off his original warrior charart, just as his warrior and apprentices' colors came from. 17:01, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and its the second one on the uploading list; I think. 17:05, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Right now it shows me the original version and its like a distorted thumbnail. Wild   breath   17:18, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I know. Thats why you have to go to the uploading list to see it. 18:27, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

His stripes need to be a little lighter to match the others. 18:54, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to be shorter, and more added. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:26, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Try to copy the stripe style from his apprentice, or warrior image Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:55, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Redone...again. xD This time I'm sure its the same color as the other ones, and the stripes match, too. So, comments? 17:32, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

No they don't, on his warrior and apprentice images, the stripes are darker gold, these look....a tad green.... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:36, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I took the colors exactly off the other one, so it should match. Go to his page and look at his gallery. They do have the same colors, its just a bit different because of shading. Do his apprentice and warrior look the same? They have the same colors, but the shading is different. 17:42, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Vinestar (L) ~ Redone


Original artist was Honeyfur, and I redid the shading, and ended up redoing the whole thing. 18:36, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

And changes aren't showing. 18:38, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Would it be possible to elongate the tail to match the description? (And personally I think the same should be done with Tallstar, as that's kind of what he's named for) 23:54, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:59, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I reverted the image to the newer image, Misty. Mintstar, I don't think the shading needs to be blurred as you were looking at the old one. Add shading at the end of the tail (make it longer like Shellheart said) and add depth to the eyes. (darker and lighter pixels) 17:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Icy! I redid the whole tail, and made it a bit longer. Please don't make me make it any longer. I fail at lineart. D: 18:00, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good! Blur the shading, yes, because it looks blotchy. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 02:42, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Petalnose (Q) - Tweaked
- Re-did did shading and brightened highlights. I tried a new way of doing shading, and I like it x3. Please don't tell me to blur the shoulder highlight. It can't be blurred anymore. 23:29, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

It's a bit dark compared to her other images. 23:56, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. Nice! <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

That's because of the shading + highlights. Er, Re-Uploaded xD 00:38, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste around the charart around her haunch area. Make the earpink bigger. 01:04, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see the waste on GIMP 02:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I can see it, want me to circil it for you? If not, It is under her foot, under her belly, near her foot, and above her back. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

OH I know why it isnt showing you, because, it is so pale, it looks like it isn't there, but if you lean in close, you can see it, it is there, but just BARLEY there. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:48, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

It is not there at all on GIMP. I can't fix it if I can't see it. 21:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

When I had a hard time seeing the waste on my Ivypool image, I put a colored background behind her as a new layer, maybe that could help you see it? Because I could never see it when people told me until I did that 22:00, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Where's the light source? I can't really tell... and darken the tail shading. 19:02, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Stormfur (Ki) - Tweaked
Original artist was Flamingmom3, and it needed thicker/blurred shading. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Lighten or blur the shading just a teeny tiny bit. (I may be wrong) <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">Snowdazzle Severus Snape.  01:10, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:25, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible to darken the side of the head a little more? 19:09, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- good? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:32, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the right ear's earpink a bit. 16:47, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a bit. 22:42, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 02:43, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Longtail (Alt. W) - Tweaked
The original artist was Feathermoon. I just made him gray. 03:19, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely! Darken the shading a tad and add/darken the shading under the chin. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 03:22, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:27, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I can see a bit of waste around the head and neck. Please erase it that this'll be pretty much ready. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 03:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Yay. :) 03:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't it just be his default warrior image, since we went with the silver description only with his elder charart? 12:43, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste all around. But the image looks good! @Shellheart, Longtail's alt. warrior is for the period of time when he was not an elder, but he had been attacked by the rabbit and had scars. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:26, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

He was attacked in FQ, there is a slighty waste under his forepaw closest to us, and und his haunch, and darken the shading a tad, I can't see it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 15:55, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hehe. One of Feathermoon's chararts. xD Anyways, good job Rainy. I know you're not required to do this, but...umm... Can you thicken the lineart by the nick in his ear? It seems too thin. 18:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Other than that, it looks good. 19:00, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The waste isn't showing on my comp... Can you specify where I missed it? 04:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oscar (KP) ~ Tweaked
Shading needed to be blurred, original artist is Ashshadow. 18:46, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Give him a black nose. Looks good. 19:53, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  20:58, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading and blur the back highlight. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 21:22, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 21:32, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Where's the black nose? Are the changes not showing? 21:51, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I see a version with a black nose in the history, that one might be it. The pupils look a little green, I know it's artistic effect, but could you try making them a tad bit darker? 22:29, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ That was odd...Anyways, done. 22:34, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's waste above the head and ear. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:23, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the haunch a bit more. 15:51, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I don't see any waste. 19:14, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights on his back with the surrounding black. I see that they kind of stand out. It looks good. Fallenstars 20:13, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I don't see anything wrong with the highlights, but I blurred the shading a bit. 00:39, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste above the head and ears. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 02:44, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great, but I agree with Fallenstars. The highlights do stand out. Try blurring them. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 15:05, August 11, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

'Reuploaded''. 'I suppose the only thing that I can say is .... Anyways, it's blurred to the max on my program, and if there was any waste, it should'' be gone now. 15:08, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Cedarheart (W) ~ Tweaked
It needed to be darkened to match his other images. Original artist is Ashshadow. 18:46, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great ^.^ Blur the neck shading some. 19:08, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ :) Thanks, and blurred! 19:43, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

The lineart on the eye is faded. Fix it, please. =) 21:51, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

The way it looks now, his front paw closest to us makes him look like he has a lighter paw, blend it in much more or shade that part so it doesn't give that impression (unless he DOES have a lighter paw- then it needs to be in his discription). 21:59, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~  22:45, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Could you change the eye? :3 14:39, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can you lighten the earpink a bit? 15:55, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Mmm, ok. 19:10, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sagepaw (A) ~ Tweaked
Color needed to be lightened to match his other images, original artist is Night shine. 18:46, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can you make the earpink bigger or define it? Also, since his name was revealed, change it to Sagefur.Apprentice.png :) 19:44, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded ~ Okay!

Redden the earpink; great work! 15:56, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 19:17, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Cinderfur (D) ~ Tweaked
Oi. There is gray, I know. All I gotta say, is you have NO idea how long I've been sitting here filling the lineart back in, pixel by pixel. Also, I redid the eyes, since they looked weird, and re-did the shading. Original artist was Shaf Girl, I do believe. 04:02, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Remove all the waste from around the charart and maybe add some shading around the jaw to bring out the shape of the head. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 04:14, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

There's no need to be redundant. I already said I knew about the gray. Re-uploaded. 04:26, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, Cloudy. I must've missed that. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 04:58, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the tail. 18:25, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

There is shading on the tail...? 18:29, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I meant highlighting. You don't have to, but it would look a bit better that way. 18:58, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Haha. Re-uploaded. Does that suit your fancy? I don't usually work with highlights... 22:31, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Billystorm (W) ~ Tweaked
I just added stripes. Original artist was Dawnleaf. Comments? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 04:58, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

This looks good! Define the stripes on his front leg. 14:12, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add some more stripes and darke them. Also, I know this is none of your business, but is it possible to smudge the white a bit more? 14:36, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add a few stripes to his front leg and hte top of his head. If you want, define the earpink, but you don't have to since this is only for adding stripes. 18:57, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Completely redid the stripe patter. Since he's depicted as really fluffy looking in the manga, I smudged his white chest and tail like that. Also reddened the ear-pink. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:07, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Maybe blend them in a little, though. 20:13, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:24, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Broken Shadow (SC) - Tweaked
I screwed up this image. I added stripes, brightened the highlights, darkened shading, against the stripes, and of course, the shadign didn't seem to like my white paws. Comments? 15:39, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the shading on the white paws, obviously. :P Add some more stripes on the haunch. 16:29, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add a bit of shading to the tail, right now it looks 2 dimensional. Looks great! 18:55, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

The White part of the front paws seems gray. And add some stripes on the bottom of the haunch to make it look more realistic too. Other than that it looks great! Fallenstars 20:09, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look kinda pasted on top of the highlights, maybe lighten them where the highlight is. Also, are her hind paws supposed to have that orangey hue? I think it looks nice but a bit unnatural. Either way, this looks very good. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:11, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the stripes look a little too "painted on" should I say. Blend/smudge them in more with the pelt :3  01:30, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Graystripe (D) Tweaked
The entire image needed tweaking. So I re-did the stripe, darkened the highlights, fixed up the ear pink, and played with the shading. I also added depth in the eye. Comments? 16:04, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on his leg needs blurred, also the bottom of his haunch. 17:02, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the highlights, make the stripe thicker, and blur it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:36, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 18:50, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Rippleclaw (W)~ Redone
Original artist was Ashshadow, and honestly i always wanted to redo this image. Comments? 19:19, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlight on the tail and darken the shading on the forelegs and under the chin. I love the stripes! <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:17, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

And enlarge the earpink a little, too.

Oops, forgot to sign. 20:55, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! If you're gonna put dots on him, make them more visible, otherwise he looks almost mottled or flecked. 21:04, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I thought we weren't supposed to re-do images that weren't on the re-done list? 22:27, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

No offense to Ashshadow, but this one looks much better. The only thing I can think of to fix is to do what Ivystripe said and make the dots more visible. 22:35, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, whether or not he was on the list is kinda irrelevant, his image needed redone badly. The shading was really off 00:21, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Pod (Lo)~ Tweaked
Original artist was Bramble, and it needed its shading tweaked. Comments? 19:42, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Changes arent showing. 19:43, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think they're showing now, I can see a definite difference. Add some more shading on the underside of the tail, I looks kinda funny how it just stops half way though. Turn the scar on his muzzle a darker gray, it kinda looked like he's blushing. Nice work! <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:15, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Amberclaw (W) - Tweaked
Hate this. I burned in stripes, and the original artist was Riverpelt. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 02:46, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are harder to see on the legs- define them please :) 02:48, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- darkened the shading, brightened the highlights, and redid the stripes. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:35, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area=

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Question about Leafstar's images
Ok, I know I put my question in the incorrect place last night, where nobody could see it, so I'm just making a new section for it. On the Nominations page, I had originally put Leafstar's images down as needing cream (I DON'T see cream anywhere on her images), and somebody chnged it to just needing cream stripes. I'm confused as to how she has cream on her: I mostly wanted to clear that up, because I'm doing her queen image, but it'll be hard to make it match if she's not tweaked for the right thing. 16:07, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

There are cream blotches along her haunch, her back, her fore-head, her tail, her stomach, and her left fore-leg. I really like how this is, the cream is nice and soft. I never pictured her with cream blotches patched all over her, I think it was supposed to be much more subtle Night <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">Fall 19:14, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like brownish-ginger to me. Berrynose is cream. 20:17, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well it blends into her pelt more and it looks pretty cream against the brown. It doesn't have to be like Berrynose cream, then it would look kind of odd and stand out too much in my opinion. 17:13, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like highlights to meWildfire 02:34, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Not to me. Highlights are brighter tones of the pelt, but the cream here isn't at all the shade of brown. I think Rainwhisper is right, if we did each cat with the same color of cream, then they wouldn't stand out as individuals. I think every cat that has cream on their fur has a different and unique shade of it. I think she's beautiful as she is Night <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">Fall 02:37, July 19, 2011 (UTC) Well, usually when a cat is cream and tabby it means that their stomache and muzzle are totally cream, such as the white on Billystorm. I think the character art is nice, but the cream is unnatural. 19:37, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that they look like highlights. Maybe at least add a cream underbelly, chest, or muzzle, like said above? 19:03, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

I just really hoped she gets tweaked soon, because while Tweak Week is going on and I can't submit anything, I want to try to get it as ready as I possibly can, since we have a lot of chararts to do, and I need the right cream color (fyi the cream on all her images ARE in fact different, so one has to be picked for all of them) 20:25, July 22, 2011 (UTC) I want to see it drawn more realistically, too. For once, the cover art on the super edition looks closer to her description. Is it on the list for tweaking? 03:25, July 25, 2011 (UTC) Yes, it is. 00:42, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Where is that list, anyway? Is it available to the general public? 00:38, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I just don't want to see this image totally redone...one, it's really beautiful as it is, and two, there's nothing that needs to be redone. I can agree that more cream could be added, but I hope that's the only thing that will be done to it Night <sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">Fall 16:52, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't want it completely redone. I just want to see cream added to her chest in a more natural pattern, like how we make any other chararts with descriptions like hers. Just look at Billystorm. He's described as a ginger and white, and we don't just have little white ripples in his fur. We made his chest, tail, paws, and muzzle white. 20:52, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

She doesn't have to be exactly like Billystorm. I think the image is fine as it is. You can obviously see cream on her fur - but yes, more cream needs to be added, and like Nightfall said, that's the only thing. 21:46, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

The Leafstar image is fine. There are many shades of cream, Daisy's cream is the most common. But, her image is fine.Moon<sup style="border-width: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: super; line-height: 1em; font-size: 11px;">stream 21:00, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't mean that there needs to be more cream. Just that the pattern of cream is unnatural. I honestly think the pattern should be the same as we do with every other cat described like she is (tabby and white, cream, etc). 19:00, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Why though? It excludes all uniqueness if she's just made like all the other cats are. Each cat on this planet is different from the other. Even if you google brown tabbies, you'll get brown tabby cats with thousands of different styles of stripes and shades of brown. Each charart should stand out, not just melt into all the others. Night Fall 23:55, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

I think waht they mean by brown and cream is waht she looks like on the cover of The Rescue. Wildbreath 18:15, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

No, I only added this because I'm an idiot and can't tell. 19:40, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Cats can come in patterns like that, but the stripes are lightened across the cream bits. So... personally, I think that's what we should do. It should be a pretty quick fix to lighten the stripes on all her images, yes? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

New Suggestion
I had an idea after looking at the page for Sunfish, who is only ever given a description by her appearance in the manga at the end of Crookedstar's Promise. If a cat only appears in a manga or isn't described in detail in a book but is shown in a manga, can we go with the manga description? I know there would be color problems, but we could just set the charart to generic colors and put 'tabby', 'totoiseshell', 'mottled', or something like that on the page. Just a thought. 17:46, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

It depends on how the character is drawn. 18:39, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

That's the point. It's not that hard to decipher pelt type in the manga. I really wish we'd use this as a rule. It's how we chose Tadpole's description, isn't it? I think so. Plus, I think my dad told me something about how you can convert black-and-white into color, although it won't be as high quality as if it was color to black-and-white. 20:52, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Have we decided on the manga fourm yet? Wildfire 00:59, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, but Ivy, can you try and do that? Then we might be able so see if it works. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 19:16, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Join Request
Hi! Could you please add me? I would appreciate it very much! <font color="red" face=segoe script">Cloud <font color="orange" face=segoe script">claw1 <font color="green" face=segoe script">Fly  <font color="blue" face=segoe script">the  <font color="purple" face=segoe script">winds...  22:49, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

I put this in a separate heading. And yes, you may join! A lead will add you soon, and you'll be added as a kit, so you can't do chararts for a month, you can only comment on them. 01:14, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hey I have been waiting for the day but no one has added me as a kit yet if you could do that when you get the chance i would really appreciate it. :)

I love tigerheart 02:53, August 8, 2011 (UTC)I love tigerheart

Of course you two can join! I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines to get you started. Also, I'd advise you to keep an eye of the talk page, we're currently debating the kit system. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:37, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

2 things, joining, willowbreeze
Hi I was wondering if I could join projecect Character art. Because I am pretty good at drawing charart, And I would really like to contribute to it. The other thing is that Willowbreeze doesn't have a warrior charart, or a queen charart. I was already starting on the warrior charart. So please let me join I would really love to help. I will probably give the charart to Atelda or Frostheart. They may edit and do what they like. Thank you for reading.

I love tigerheart 16:20, August 7, 2011 (UTC)I love Tigerheart :)

Hello, thanks for the intrest in joining, wait for one of the leads to add you, then you'll be a kit, but, sadly, you can't put up any images for one month after you are added, Thank you^^ Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:27, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thank you. I dont mind waiting for a month.

I love tigerheart 00:28, August 8, 2011 (UTC)I love tigerheart

Expanding
We need to expand Tweak Week, but was it ever decided that we would expand it or end it on the 7th? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:23, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking of adding a week... it's already past the 7th xD. We still have a ton to do. We can't finish it all... but it'll give us a little more time. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 23:36, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

i counted the images...and i lost count...you may want to add more than a week, Darkhallows.... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 23:52, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, we should expand tweak week to maybe the end of august. We still have like 20 some chararts to get through. Maybe also enlist some of the more senior apprentices for assistance? Some examples being Maplepool, Moonleaf, Ivystripe, and Leopardclaw. Because, honestly, we need more help. Thoughts? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:29, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Agreed. Maybe some more apprentices? 00:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, but we don't too many apprentices to help out. But we don't want the ones who don't get to help out hurt. I think the four we have now are fine. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking maybe we could make tweak week a permanent thing. Like how we have the section for images pending approval, and for discussion, we could have a third one for tweaking. We could continue to add images to the forum as we see needed, and it would remove people posting chararts at random, with just a torn ear added. I would also take away the time press, and personally I think that would make the chararts better. Thoughts? 01:18, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

We would have to shorten the limit of images, though. So, in the template on PCA's main page, we could have: One charart for tweaking, one for regular. 01:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

If you guys end up wanting my help, I would be willing to. Just remember, we DO have a lot of regular images to be done, so if it is decided on an extension, please be mindful of that, as there are many pages without a charart at all. I have always thought a permanent tweak section would be a good idea, though. 03:06, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about a permenant tweaking section... but I think we need to do this more than once a year. Maybe 3 or 4 times for around 2 weeks each? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think a permanent tweaking section is a good idea. However, we can't just put up any picture we see because there is just a tiny tiny thing that's a bit off. So I say we have a forum, as Iceheart said, and a lead can make sure that the image is okay for tweaking. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree as well, what Iceheart said is good idea. Like for Brook, she needs a torn ear for all of her images, she got the torn ear in....The sight i think, when Hollleaf went to get some herbs....Don't rember it all but so, for images like that, it would be added to the forum if we agrre to it? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:14, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

A permanent tweaking section would be good. I was thinking that we should just edit the charart without going through any process at all, like when we change the eye colour. And I would be willing to help with TW. 19:05, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should hold up on letting apprentices help. I nominate some people to be warriors, and i shortened the vote to only two days, just because of the time crunch (Sorry for the copy/paste nomination reason, i was too lazy to come up with personalized ones). If you think people should be helping with TW, nominate them. Its a bad idea to just have some apprentices allowed to participate. 19:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with having a continuous Tweak Week. Yes, we have a profuse amount of images needing tweaking right now, but what about later, when it's (say) October. By then we would have few images needing tweaking, and nomiating images would be few and far between. With the few images that would need tweaking by then, there can be prolific arguements about who reserved it. I also think that it's unfair to nomimate apprentices to warriors just because we need more warriors. It's unfair and can be demeaning to some users. However, chosing certain apprentices is pusillanimous as well. I just think that users should nomianate other users because they think that they've achived this milestone. I'm in agreement with Darkhallows that we should do tweak week more than once a year. Perhaps twice a year for a month and maybe a half. 20:24, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Atelda on this one. If we had a different section for tweaked chararts, I think that things would only get cluttered and very confusing. I think that if we had a tweaking section year round, that the project would split between those who want to do an actual charart for their warrior status and those who want to actually help the articles' chararts. (Sorry if I'm sounding offensive to anyone in anyway.) But I do agree that TW should be more than once a year, 2-3 times a year sounds good. I also think that we should enforce the 2 months to have a charart approved rule. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 21:11, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

If we're doing to do TW more times a year, should we end it now? 23:09, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Makes some sense. It'd let us get the idea of some of the senior apprentices being able to contribute in order. I think that the next one should be in six months if not sooner. My proposal would be around christmas since a lot of people would be on winter break and we might be able to work during the morning and not just in the afternoon and evening.

Also, a bit of a weird question. What happens to all the chararts that aren't approved by the end of TW? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 23:28, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think they are saved for next TW, which is why there is a Never Done Last TW section, I think. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:35, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think Scarletwind meant if there were some that are above not approved when it ends. If we end it soon, it should at least be after all the above ones are approved. 15:05, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Kit
Hi I would like to be taken in as a kit. I would love to start my own charart. Please message me soon.

Featherferal :) 15:14, August 8, 2011 (UTC)Featherferal

Of course you can join! I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines to get you started. Also, I'd advise you to keep an eye of the talk page, we're currently debating the kit system. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can I become a kit?
I have microsoft Painnt and Gimp but I dont know how to use them...

Kit
Can I become a kit? I know how to do Carart. - Skullmeerkat

Of course you can join! I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines to get you started. Also, I'd advise you to keep an eye of the talk page, we're currently debating the kit system. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Kit system discussion
I have moved the discussion about improving/removing the kit system to the forum and can be found here. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Kit?
Can I become a kit? I have Microsoft Paint and Gimp. I can do the colors, the ear pink (including blurring it) and eyes. But I cant do shading, dodging or burning.Fallenstars

Good, but please sign with four ~'s so we know who you are and can add you! We'd love to have you join! 02:07, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can I become a kit? I have Microsoft Paint and Gimp. I can do the colors, the ear pink (including blurring it) and eyes. But I cant do shading, dodging or burning. Fallenstars Sure, I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines to get you started. I'd also advise that you keep an eye on the talk page because we are currently debating the kit status. Also please remember to sign all your posts with 4 (~_ <font color="#f7d86d">♌[[User:Scarletwind|<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 02:10, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ok! Thank you.

Jaggedtooth..
OK I'M NOT WARRIOR! AND I KNOW IT BUT PLEASE READ THIS AND ANSWER...

It's Tweak week and I saw some chararts..they looks very bad. like Jaggetooth..I'm sorry, I know I'm only apprentice but I made new Jaggedtooth's rogue image...but you wont't accep it. I'm only want help..yes? Thanks Leaf-storm,11:18,August 9,2011(UTC)

This is awesome! You'll be a warrior soon, I hope. Well done! How did you make those stripes btw? 11:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I wouldn't mind using this to replace Jaggedtooth's image (did we really let that get approved? o.o). If no one has any objections, I think we can go ahead and let you put this up for approval. This would be an exception and not something I would generally consider, but this is really good xD. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:55, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Alright if we're going to include apprentices we have to include Leaf-storm. I agree, this is really good. Some early comments...xD darken the shading. 12:37, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

You're not seriously going to approve this? I agree, it's great, but is is truly fair to just let Leafstorm, only an apprentice, put up a charat? I'm sure a lot of the apprentices make great charats, just as good as this, but since we can't participate in Tweak Week, no one knows what ours would look like! I agree with Leaf, some do look awful, and I would love to see where others can go with them. But just to let Leafstorm put one up, just because they put up an example you liked...it doesn't seem fair to the other apprentices who can't participate :3 Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  13:02, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think Leafstorm has been here for quite awhile. He/she was removed when Nightshine was removing inactive apprentices, which I don't know why, and that was awhile ago. It looks good, but I can see what Gingertail is saying. But, then again, we are considering more apprentices, so I think Leafstorm should be part of the apprentices tweaking. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:06, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Apprentices can tweak images now?

Sorry that ^^ was me. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">Snowdazzle Severus Snape.  14:11, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I'm confused about this as well. Does this mean all apprentices, or just Leaf-storm? Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 15:57, August 9, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

We're allowing this to be posted. However, we might let some more apprentices be allowed, adn those are: Maplepool, Ivystripe, and some more I can't remember xD 16:00, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I see. Thanks. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 16:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Wow, Leafstorm, that is a very dazzling image! Early comment as well, Darken ear pink, other that, I find noting wrong with this! Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:10, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

So, would you like my help then? And this is AMAZING! Great job Leaf-storm! 16:16, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, just saw you want my help, I feel so loved xD @Rainy what i think Leafstorm did, was on gimp, taken the pen tool, set it to the smallest settings, and do it that way, 'cause, I really don't think Pixrl's pen tool can do that, even at like one. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Holy cow. This is beautiful! I see nothing really wrong with this image, and it looks much better then the one we have up there now. *no offense to the creator* 18:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I darker shadings and ear pink Leaf-storm,18:36,August 9.2011 (UTC)

Early commet again, Rename him, Jaggedtooth.rouge.png, then really, other than that, what is wrong with it? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 20:22, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't we move this to the 'Images Pending Approval' section? <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  21:06, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't konw, I mean, it has 35 images, witch is the limt, so it might stay here. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 21:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

It'd be best to keep it down here until one of the images has been archived or something... Oh, and Leaf, please blur the ear pink. =) 21:49, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that this charart is very nice, but I don't think that's reason to allow it for Leaf-storm if all the other apprentices' rights for TW are unknown. I think that unless all the apprentices can participate, it wouldn't be fair to allow this to be up for approval. No offense to Leaf-storm, but having this up is causing a lot of confusion and some apprentices' feelings are getting hurt. I know that wasn't you intention, so know right now that I'm not angry at you. I just feel that if one apprentice is allowed to have one charart up for approval when the majority of the project has to wait is unfair. Before we decide whether to put this really up for approval or not, I'd like to hear some of the other project members' opinions. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 03:47, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I had never intended to let apprentices do TW, but the whole reason that they aren't supposed to is that, frankly, the aren't all that experienced and might not be good at charart. I beleive that this is about as high quality as we'll get for this image, and no one has it reserved. I don't think letting one apprentice do one images will hurt anything. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:09, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: blurred ear pink

Darkhallows, this means you won´t accept it? :-( Leaf-storm,07:18,August 10.2011 (UTC)

Erm, it might not be my place but, while this is a STUNNING image, we have already have had a few people feel upset due to this...but if Darkhallows or Iceheart says it is okay, they will have to suck it up and not complain to much... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:43, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

To the ones that are complaining.... It's one image! There really is no reason to be complaining over one, simple tiny image. There are tons of others thing you all could be doing, instead of complaining, to help you get nominated to become a warrior that way you can help us out next Tweak Week. I think y'all over overreacting over something as small as this. *sighs* 17:50, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, exactly! The morale is: Be patient :l <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  23:12, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

While I agree this is amazing, in my opinion, it should be declined. It should have never been put up in the first place, and Leafstorm's not even an experienced apprentice (as in she hasn't had a charart approved yet, NOT that she's not good). It wouldn't be fair to the other apprentices, even if it WAS just this ONE image. There are more experienced apprentices who have been here longer AND have more images approved, yet they don't get to participate. There are plenty of Warriors who can work on this image and they'd do a great job too. It's just, I don't think we should make an exception just because an apprentice put up a charart when she wasn't supposed to and it looks really good. Leafstorm will be able to help out and make amazing images VERY soon, as Tweak Week is almost over, so I think this should be declined. No offence intended at all Leafstorm, I absolutely LOVE your image, it's better than even what some of the warriors could do (like me), I just don't think it'd be fair to let this be approved, that's all.

Wow, that was a long post. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:08, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Apprentices Tweaking?
OK, honestly, I'm going to admit I'm a little upset. I have to thank Tweak Weak for one thing; it stopped people from doing CP charats, as I wanted to do Brightsky's, and I rejoined a few days before it came out as a kit :] I wasn't too upset, in the beginning, that I couldn't participate in Tweak Weak; When I first joined PCA back in November, I was too slow to reserve a SotM cat, and I couldn't do any. Big sigh. I tried Ice's loner, but I didn't like the way it was turning out and I withdrew. After that I went inactive. So I've never really done anything for PCA.

Well, then Leaf-Storm came along. Just an apprentice, s/he put up Jaggedtooth's rouge. And the older members let it stay. I won't deny that I was extremley upset. Because I found out that older apprentices were going to be let Tweak. And how is that fair to people like me, who were removed because of inactivity?

Well... it probably wouldn't help...but I just wanted to show you all that just because we're new to the project doesn't mean we don't make good charats. I think that you're rank should depend on how you're charats look, not how long you've been in the project. Because, honestly, I agree with Leaf when s/he says that some of the warriors don't have the best charats. So here's an example of some charats I made, just to prove the point that just because I'm an apprentice, doesn't mean I don't have good charats:



If I went overboard in trying to prove my point, let me know, but I hope you get what I'm saying now :| Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  22:17, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

We're thinking about making some of the apprentices into Warriors so they can do it to avoid fights like this. Leafstorm's is good, but I don't know about it, as she has not had a charart approved yet. Your provided examples are excellent.

And for SotM, a lot of people withdrew theirs or it was declined, you shouldn't have just given up. Just commented and waited to see if someone withdrew. 22:25, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Oaky, people, clam down, if all goes well, me Ivystripe, and moonleaf, WON'T be apprentices, we are currnelty, haveing the voting going on, alright, now then Leafstorm, more than likely won't be a warrior, and Gingertail, we never SAID you can't do great chararts, and yes you did ginger, you did go overborad a bit, and with what Ivystripe said, don't give up because you didn't get ONE image, I went months, untill I got Lark, I didn't quit, just wait, you WILL get a chance, M'kay? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 22:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

That was all one sentence o.o and I never said I gave up, I said there were no images available. I became inactive for personal reasons. And it seems everyone gushing voer Leafstorm jsut because they put up ONE good image. idk. I guess I was just upset about other stuff, and this just set me over....ah well. my apologies. Ginger <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#FF6103"> Heat wave <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#4DBD33"> + Power outage <sup style="font-family:Comic Sans;color:#1D7CF2"> = Unhappy Ginger  22:43, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Apology accepted! I know sometimes things can get frustrating, that's why it's ok to ask to get things cleared up. 22:49, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't blame you Ginger. Honestly, I would be a bit ticked myself. We're still discussing it, however, and it would have been better if you brought your side up in that discussion. In any case, I see your point, and I do ask you to write your side on that discussion. ;) Oh, and by the way, Maplepool, if you want to emphasize something, it's better to use italics rather than capitals as capitals can indicate that you're yelling. 22:58, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I was kind of unhappy, but I guess I can't talk. I haven't been an apprentice too long, so if I can't do charart now, I don't mind the wait. It just gives me time to make sure the chararts I want to reserve are ready. And Ginger, I agree with you about that, it's not really fair that some apprentices get to do charart and some don't. It's like the whole kit system thing. And by the way, Ginger, your chararts are beautiful. Just though I'd share my thoughts on this. ;) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  00:46, August 10, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

@Atelda sorry I hit cap locks, 'cause I type fast, i type 150 words a minute, so forgive me? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:06, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

@Maplepool- Of course, just making sure that you're aware. Some users can be offended. ;) 02:09, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I know, don't mean to, just type fast... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:25, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I can get where everyone's coming from, and I know what I said on Leaf-Storm's Jaggedtooth, but I don't know... Tweak Week will be over soon. I was thinking of pehaps letting apprentices in on image quality, but that might cause fights, and I really want to try to avoid that. I don't think there will ever be a system that's 100% fair and fun for everyone. If I were you, I'd just wait it out and do an image when available. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:19, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I second that, Darkhallows. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 16:24, August 10, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

I second Darkhallows also. Or should I say that I third Darkhallows? :P 16:25, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I fourth that Darkhallows xD. Y'all just gotta be patient. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  17:23, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Charart
What program do you use to edit the cats? 19:06, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

A lot of people use GIMP but others have been used like Pixlr I think. I used Photoshop Elements for my chararts. I hope this helps. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 23:38, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I for one use pixlr.com and I agree with Scarletwind (Who's profile I LOVE) that alot of people use GIMP. Also, remember to sign with 4 ~'s. Thanks! ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 00:30, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Photoshop CS5. I'd prefer GIMP, tbh, but it doesn't work for me. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 06:22, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I using Gimp and for blurring Photo Filtre 9 (sometimes) Leaf-storm,7:44,August 10,2011(UTC)

I use Paint, Gimp, and sometimes Pixrl, but mainly Paint and gimp. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 15:07, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I use GIMP. GIMP is probably, in my and a lot of other's opinions, the best program to use. If you are unable to use GIMP, just give Pixlr a try. 16:28, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

So in conclusion, we all have different programs to make our chararts, so just go and try out and see what one fits your liking ;3 17:26, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well is gimp a website? Or do you have to download it, because of not having high speed this I will really enjoy trying to create/tweak images -.-

Yes you must downlouad it, if you want create cats. Leaf-storm,19:24,August 10,2011(UTC)

Apprentices editing tweak week
Hi I saw that Leafstorm was editing Jaggedtooth and she's an apprentice so I was wondering which apprentices are allowed to edit because I could do solid cats or something easy if we aren't supposed to edit the harder ones. But which apprentices are allowed to make Charart? Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  00:07, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

We haven't decided if we are to let any apprentice participate in tweak week yet, so be patient for now ;3 00:18, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay thanks Wild fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  00:19, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Join Request
Hello mt name is Firefang and I just wanted to know if I could join thx

-- 15:15, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the talk page. And yes, you can join, and a lead will add you in as a kit. We're still debating about the kit system though. 20:27, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sure! I'll add you in now. Please look at our basic guidelines and some of our apprentice tutorials to get started. Welcome to the project! <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:31, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch!

23:01, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Where's my name? do I do it?

23:48, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, but a lead will add it soon. Only leads are aloud to edit the name table. :3 Shadewing ''' Mischief Managed...  00:52, August 11, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

join
Hey just a little Q Can I join plZ NEVERMIND

22:59, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Mist
Is it ok to make a Character for Mist`s Character art? I made one but I cant suggest it becuase I` a kit. Here is it by the way. I made it, but I added the green eyes because there was no eye color. Fallenstars 02:04, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

No, you can't I'm sorry, You are a kit, so you can't post a charart yet, and it is Tweak Week, I'm sorry. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:08, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. Fallenstars 03:13, August 11, 2011 (UTC)



Commenting
Hello. I was just wondering, are apprentices allowed to comment on the art? I know I can't do any art, but I wanted to at least try to contribute to the project. If we can't, that's fine, I was just wondering. :) Shadewing  Mischief Managed...  14:40, August 11, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Of course Shady! Everyone can comment on art :) <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  14:48, August 11, 2011 (UTC)