Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Apprentice Tutorials
Umm so I was gonna help out this user (not pointing out names) and I wanted to check out the apprentice tutorials again so I can explain things better when I noticed a lot of the tutorials are quite out of date.. Don't you think we should look through and recheck and make sure the tutorials aren't misleading/outdated? 03:52 Tue Sep 3

I think we should. Hopefully, we'll have newly approved queen line art soon, and the tutorials would be great to show the shading placement/eye coloring for it. There's even an tutorial video using the old rogue line art - I wouldn't find that very useful as a noob :3  .:* ❧Silver❧ *:.   Leaf-Fall is here~

True, and maybe we could add more tutorials in there too, like smudging/blurring techniques and/or texture (which most new users would like to learn) even if it's not necessary. But as mentioned in previous discussion, PCA wants the chararts to look good, no? 22:25, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

I actually think we were in the process of trying to redo some of them... not entirely sure what happened to that discussion, though. Some of the tutorials are outdated, yes, and also only have some of the information. I'd be up for a revamp.

I would like to ask the project if I could make a patched cat tutorial? Some cats have patches and there is none, so we could definitely use one. 23:22, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Imma take the texture tutorial and mayybeee the smoke, if this is considered smoke. This took up sooo much of my time>:( 17:20 Sat Sep 14

I don't think we should be "taking" anything, especially if we don't know if we're going to redo the tutorials or not. I also think only warriors and above should be allowed to work on the tutorials, as they are teaching other members, and that's a warrior and up duty.

Oh :( Once I become a warrior will it all be okay for me to do a tutorial? 17:47 Sat Sep 14

If I remember correctly, normally SMs had full permission to do tutorials, and warriors and below were required to ask, but I'm pretty sure warriors can do that anyways... Kelpsey, your smoke is really good, probably way better than I can do, and honestly, I think you could post a tutorial (is would have to be agreed upon, however).

On the subject of revamping the tutorials, I'm pretty sure we were planning this quite a long time ago, but it never came into effect. I think we should keep the current tutorials, however. And new ones could be added under the name of the user who made them. ouo

I agree. The smoke tutorial by Kelps looks very promising. And Stoney your chararts are beautiful, especially the dappled tabby tutorial I think the flecked and mottled ones are out of date, but that's just my opinion. 22:07, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

I would love to see the tutorials revamped, especially to see how the standards of PCA have risen. To show no disrespect to the artists who made the tutorials or make the tutorial page super long (tl;dr - yeah let's avoid that) perhaps we can put the current tutorial on a larger version of the tabber coding preserving all the current tutorials but allowing users to post or revamp tutorials as well as include the new designs that have been showing up.

I would say that the senior members have decision over tutorials, but I emphasize the point of honesty and thinking about the reference part over the friendship. 23:24, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

We could also use the "tabber" coding to separate the apprentice tutorials into sections, so the page won't be that long, per say the first tabber would be known as "Basics" (fur, ear and eye colors, basic shading styles, plain cats, etc.), the second known as "Markings" (torties, tabby styles, etc.) and so on. Therefore, we can add more tutorials without having to extend the page a lot. 00:13, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Using the tabbers would be cool with me. Nice idea~

Thank you. ^^ 15:29, September 20, 2013 (UTC)

Long Fur for ThunderClan Cats
I've been meaning to bring this up ever since Tallstar's Revenge came out, but I couldn't remember where I found it. Now that I have a cite, I decided to bring it up finally. On page 126 of Tallstar's Revenge, it reads, "He'd (as in Tallpaw) never seen such huge cats, wide-shouldered and stocky with long fur and sharp claws that glinted at the ends of there toes." Should all ThunderClan cats get long fur unless stated otherwise? We gave all RiverClan cats long fur and all WindClan cats short fur unless stated otherwise, so I don't see why we wouldn't do the same for ThunderClan cats. 16:16, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Good point, but who was Tallpaw looking at, at that time? It may have been a couple of long-furred TC cats. Bluestar was described with short fur, same with many others of the Clan. Their fur can vary from long to short, since they're a forest Clan. It would make more sense for WC to have a lot of short hairs, due to their moor-running experiences, and RC eats fish, so their fur gets all oily, and they need long fur to protect them from very cold waters[my theory xD there may be other reasons]. I'm a little lazy to go get TR, and look up the page. But I may in a little bit. But someone else can look at their copy. But in my opinion, I think the way TC hairs vary, is fine. Same as how SC's hair types vary. But the main reason why most of them are long-furred, is mainly so they can endure leaf-bare. Maybe they had medium-hair length, so in a short description of TC, the Erin called them long-furred. I bet someone else could explain this way better than me, but this is my total honest opinion on your question. Sorry if I just talked no sense! xD I tend to   20:37, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

However, they may have been the exception, or he may have been describing them with such fur as WindClan cats aren't exactly balls of fluff. 20:43, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

This was at Tallpaw's first gathering, which tells me that they were all long-furred. And Bluestar being describe as short-furred was a mistake, as she was originally described as long-furred. Just pointing that out. 22:03, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

ThunderClan doesn't have a feature that sets them apart from the others. There are several short furred ThunderClan cats, who are Clan born. But I agee with Ravenfrost in this situation. There's really no need to make all ThunderClan cats long furred because a certain patrol was described as long fur. 22:18, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Icy on this. I don't see a need to make them all long-furred, unless a specific character, such as Cloudtail or Graystripe, are described as such. A small group of cats don't represent the entirety of the Clan, imho.

Also, what a WindClan cat might consider long-haired, and what a ThunderClan cat/ect might consider longhaired can vary significantly. If he never saw a longhaired cat and suddenly saw some with, say, medium length fur, it would look long to him. Based on that alone I would say they don't need to be tweaked for that. 01:23, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Rejoin? (again)
Sorry if I keep on asking to join, but this time, I really mean it. I've improved a lot at chararts, so I hope you'll let me in again! ♥ Thistle flight ♥