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Hussar (Lo) ~ Tweaked
OAs are Rainfacestar and DJAngelCandy. Tweaked for flat shading and the scar 08:37, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Can you please lighten the shading? 11:24, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 12:00, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

sharpen the scar, it looks like a weird streak of pink paint. HotTeacher69 (talk) 18:26, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a little bit.

Re-uploaded Best I could do about the scar. Any tips would be appreciated. 03:37, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, and the scar still looks kinda off...Define it, maybe? 22:51, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I forgotten to lighten up the shading oops ill do that later 07:13, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Dull down the light on the tail a bit it's bright compared to the other light spots. or is that because of the shading? 06:45, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Stonestar (D) ~ Tweaked
OA's were Ashshadow, Stoneclaw, and Stealthfire 00:37, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot more. 00:39, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

reups 00:44, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and blur it more on the paws and midriff. Also, add shading to where I showed stealth last time. 00:52, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

ill reup later, but idk where that is -.- 01:01, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

It's the standard and default source for the warriors - aka the one I use the most. As it is now, it goes up way too high on the muzzle and should be on the neck.

Also define the earpink please. 22:52, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reups just saying now (and I'm not throwing its fine into it) but I looked up on the archives where you showed the previous tweaker to add shading, and it does not need shading there. In all anatomical aspects, that part should be in light. 22:59, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

that doesn't stop the shading from reaching up to the muzzle. like cloudy said, it should remain on the neck. 23:02 Sun Sep 13

I'm sorry, but what? The muzzle is the area that should have the light. Please tweak it, because if the light's hitting the face, why would the muzzle have shadow? It makes much more sense for the neck to have the shadow and it doesn't look like any source we have and that's part of the reason it was nominated to begin with.

Like I was trying to say before you added your comment before I could publish mine, Skye, was that the comment before, was directed at Icy. I removed some shading on top of the muzzle, if you could look at the file difference. The shading on the bottom of the muzzle, the bottom should have shading, as my source is plainly above and in <== that direction, so 23:07, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

I did look at the file history, thanks, and I can't see much of a difference, but alright. Can you lighten the shading? It looks much too dark as it is.

reups 23:17, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

The shading is still too high on the muzzle. Tone it down please. 23:21, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

no it isn't. you're the one who taught me this source anyway .-. and besides, that's a gradient for the transition from shading to light. It's very real in 3d pictures 23:26, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

And what happens when I agree with Icy? I still think the shading is too high up on the muzzle. Please fix it and I still think the shading is too dark..

I don't remember teaching you putting it so high up...I'm asking you to fix it as well. 23:29, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

in all honestly, the shading is plenty fine. I've seen many a picture like this, Ferncloud as example, and Flowerpaw as well. this is what happens when a realism artist joins a wiki -.- no one listens to me ;-;   23:33, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

there's no need to agitated about this matter. when a user tells you to fix something, you fix something. you can raise an opinion, but when multiple users comment about the same issue, it would be in the best interest to change it. so instead of getting all mad about an issue, just fix it, and drop it. even though this is withdrawn, i just thought i should say this. 23:42 Sun Sep 13

Re-uploaded taking over and reuploading and I don't feel like archiving it.

Define the leg shading? 03:14, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Stormtail (Star) ~ Tweaked
OA and tweaker is Ducksplash. Tweaked to darken. 01:27, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink? 00:14, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

The ear pink is the same colour of the warrior's, actually a little lighter I think and honestly, I do believe it's easy to see. idk if someone else agrees with you then I'll change it, but the warrior's ear pink will probably need changing if that happens. 05:51, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe blur or smudge it then? 11:50, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

blur shading 12:04, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload This isn't the original file so I cannot really do that stuff. I just blurred the highlights I'm using the lighten the shading (it turned really dark) idk if other people think I need to make these changes I'll nominate a redo, since I don't think Ducksplash is still around. 20:38, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Duck isn't around, nor would he give out his files if he was. You'll need to make do with what you've got, sorry.

Smooth out the body shading a bit more. 22:49 Sun Sep 13

Define the light on the chest 23:00, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Right if this can be tweaked, can I have some advice on fixing the shading? or maybe it's so obvious and I'm too tired to see it >< 07:17, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Alrighty, since you're asking for advice on what to do, I would like to extend the limit that you can have this tweak for, since multiple issues were brought up that had nothing to do with the nomination. That's hardly fair in the least to you, especially since you obviously weren't expecting it and only had the issues brought up when the image was posted.

I'd like to give you an extra three days, should you choose to take that. You'll now have until September 23rd for this, since it's not an easy tweak and getting it done in a week is something /I/ can barely do, and I've been here much longer than everyone else, barring Scarlet, Icy, and Splook.

For tweaking it, what I'd do is the following:
 * Find an approximate base color, and create a new layer on the bottom of the image. What this'll do isn't clear right at the moment, but you'll find it useful. Fill in that layer with the base (or close to it) coloring.
 * This might take a second or two, but try and seperate the eyes, lineart, ect. Anything that you can without distorting the image. If you can't separate the ear pink, that's totally fine. Having a base color below the main image layer helps in any straining pixels you might have, especially if you're told to smudge the ear pink to give it more of a furry look, which I think you might have, or the topic was brought up.
 * Once you have your different layers (eyes, lineart, anything else, shading tweaks if you already did them), then go back to the main image layer. A suggestion for this that I usually like is to use the blur tool and blur wherever you need to. If it starts to leak to where you can see the base color on the other layer show up, disregard it until you're done blurring- I suggested putting it there for a reason.
 * After you're done blurring, use a new layer (or layers) to add and fix shading wherever it's starting to leak, and lower/adjust the opacity wherever needed, and tweak anything else if you have to.

I know it sounds like a lot, but it's really much much easier than you think. It's just a matter of separating the image into workable layers. I've been doing it like this for a couple years now, and it really does work out quite well. If you're unable to do it like I suggested, then you can probably nominate it for a redo, or pass on the image to someone else- your choice. =D

Reupload I tried. 07:33, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on his back. 17:45, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 21:12, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

blur or smudge shading 03:05, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 07:37, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

I still think it's too hard edged. Try to blur it or smudge it more. 07:39, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Sandstorm (A) ~ Tweaked
OA is Mount Everest. Tweaked for flat shading. 01:27, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

smooth out the shading a bit, please 03:32, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 05:27, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

The chest shading looks a bit odd... It doesn't flow well w/ the body. Could you maybe curve it a little so the chest doesn't look like a rectangle? 02:07, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 06:13, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the chest some more? 22:52, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 21:04, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Blur shading 13:08, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 21:37, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

'blur it on the haunch a tad. 03:13, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 07:31, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

smooth out the shading on the chest 07:39, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Bramblestar (W) - Redone
OA is sandy. All colors and pattern from leader and apprentice. 19:43, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

By the way I'm well aware the ear pink looks odd af. I'll fix that in the next upload. 19:43, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

also the other OAs were beebs and mounty, I think. 22:40, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs, tail, and head, as well as blur/smudge the pale parts please 23:03, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded:  please stop asking me to smudge the pale parts. they're not smudged on his apprentice and thats the one i'm matching. 23:11, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Um I said blur/smudge, so you could do either, it looks too uniform. I've told you this before .-. And define the light on the front legs please 23:15, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

<.< is that a scar under the tabby stripes? If so can you move it above the stripe layer please 23:17, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I'm not really sure what your attitude towards me is for, but alright. 23:20, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

There is no need for the <.<, Winter. Please refrain from hostile conduct on PCA's pages. If you have issues, take them elsewhere, thank you.

... .-. i wasn't having an attitude. wow. the <.< was peering eyes thanks :/ but anyway, dont forget the pale part under the tail 23:24, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

That is not what <.< means. It's used as an annoyed face by many people here, so please find something else to use, or don't use one at all. It sure seemed like an attitude, and I'm asking you as the leader of the project to tone it down. =/

Re-uploaded: Thank you cloudy c:. Also I always seem to forget the pale tail...I also think there might be waste, but it could also be my computer screen. 23:28, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

There is. It's at about the middle of the tail on --> side... at maybe six or so pixels out.

Re-uploaded: 10:39, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

that scar isnt on his shoulder. thats like the back of his neck. HotTeacher69 (talk) 07:46, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Guys does this seem kinda...light to you? I'm looking at it from a school computer and it seems /very/ pale, but on my computer its very dark. 17:44, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 23:08, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the paws 00:47, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded 00:51, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Define it more, it looks flat. 03:12, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

I cant see any light on the front paws whatsoever 03:20, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the back legs 03:27, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

reuploaded 19:10, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe blur the pale parts and earpink a bit more? 22:51, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Sandstorm (Alt W) - Tweaked
removed the stripes and in order for it to look reddish-brown, I needed to tweak the base, since the color was really as it was due to the darker shading and stripe color. Sucks, I really liked the stripes on this one too.

Bramblestar (Kit) - Redone
OA was Swiftpelt, Iceheart, Mount, Duck (a lot of people omg) and it looks like it was tweaked by Icebreeze and Breezefeather. Excuse me if I got that wrong. Lots of history on little bramblekit. Comments? 23:28, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad. 00:00, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

It's as dark as can be. Do you want me to try again? 12:05, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Bramblestar (D) ~ Redone
07:56, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Unsmudge his stomach for lack of words. His stomach is not smudged on any of the other chararts. Pale tail, and stretch the pale parts on the paws a little higher. Also, did you want the file? 12:06, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

I think I'm cool w/o the file. I did blur the pale parts, though, I didn't smudge them at all. I'll try to blur the shading there and I will see if that helps. 12:17, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Redscar (Star) - Tweaked
OA was Trollsky, tweaked to be reddish brown. 21:19, September 17, 2015 (UTC)