Warriors Wiki talk:Charart



Nettlepaw (a) For approval
My first charart! he needs ALOT of work, but i don't know what to do! help? -- ♥Shine star♥  23:41, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

A few things 1) The backgroud is black, it needs to be transparent 2)The image needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail 3)I can't see any shading 4)The ear pink only needs to be on the ear closest to us (His left ear) and it needs to be more of a reddish color--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:47, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

well this was the biggest size it gave me, and, how do you make the background transparent? -- ♥Shine star♥  00:03, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Click on the image on the main page before saving it to your computer. After you've fixed that, I can turn it transparent for you. -- Tinsel claw  00:37, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink is WAY too bright. Make it a more salmony color- run the burn tool over it a few times.-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! |undefined 04:34, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

wait, which main page? i thought this was the main page! -- ♥Shine star♥  14:38, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

wait, so you mean go back onto pixrl and color the background white? -- ♥Shine star♥  14:41, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

No, it means you start over on pixlr. I did the same thing. Save the base on your computer, go to pixlr and open a file. You might notice that the background is checkered. That is a transparent background, which is what Wiki needs. Maplefern 14:57, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

but when i did him it had a checked backround! when i had saved it and opened it again, it had a black backround! so i have to do it all over again? ={ -- ♥Shine star♥  15:22, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

I think what the problem is is you saved the image on a jpg file. Redo him and then save it on a png file. --Silverbells Merry Xmas! 15:44, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

ok, i put the new one up, but i CANNOT fix the eye and whiskers! also, this is the biggest i can get, which annoys me because all the others are WAY bigger! can someone help? -- ♥Shine star♥  22:00, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Here. Try re-doing him again. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 20:42, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

It is at its full size. Maplefern 22:11, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

The blank is. The Charart is not. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 22:33, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Did you remove the '120 px'in front of it? Maplefern 12:08, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded now he still needs alot more help, but THANK YOU ICESTORM! your blank made ti so the eye was correct and the whiskers, and i didn't have to spend 15 mins going over the white spots like in my old blank. Help? -- ♥Shine star♥  19:54, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

You missed a spot whan you were coloring(his hind leg) and tabby stripes are usually darker than the base pelt color, darken them some. otherwise this is much better.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 20:07, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded again. Now? --User:Shinestar ♥Shine ]] star♥ 20:57, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Make the tabby stripes thicker. Also, save over the former photo. You don't need the older versions.--Maplefern 22:37, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Maplefern is right, Try re-doing the tabby stripes with a size 3 brush. Look at Graystripe's apprentice picture for help. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:37, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Also, maybe darken the earpink a bit. It is a bit bright. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!14:53, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

oh my star clan! i am soo annoyed! i can't find my nettlepaw file on my computer! -- ♥Shine star♥  21:53, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Did you try a search? -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 16:33, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

ya -- ♥Shine star♥  17:56, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Can't you just copy and paste the image from here?-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 18:10, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Uhh...you could just save the image to your computer again. (i think that's what Ashshadow meant.) -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:16, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it is sorry I wasn't clear.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 03:21, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Jagged Rock Where Heron Sits (CG) - For Approval

 * I sort of darkened the shading a bit too much, didn't I? I tried to do it by looking at the tutorials.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:14, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the shading does look a little dark and bumpy. Lighten and even it. Good job though! -- Snow star Leaf-bare is here! 12:07, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Add mud streaks. :D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 13:05, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

nice work Lighting :) there are some white bits of color on the tail lineart, and back lineart. otherwise I lile this. Brambleclaw14 Talk 19:00, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Awsome! Just a few things 1)The space in between his legs and paws should be gray, not white (See Moss that grows by river, or Night of No Stars) The ear pink and nose pink look purple. Try making them more of a reddish color 3)I see two white pixels on the tail--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 20:06, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink so it won't look so purple.--Minnowclaw 00:05, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Do the mud streaks look a little awkward?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:51, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * you have one white pixel on the tail still. as for the mud I've never done it before so don't know :/ Brambleclaw14 Talk 10:42, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I think that the problem with the mud streaks is that on almost every Tribe cat they're all the same thickness. Normally, they would be narrower at the ends. But, as I said, almost every image has mud streaks like that, so... Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:51, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, the ear pink and the nose pink still look very purple--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:15, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:52, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

You still have a white pixel on your tail. But the ear pink and nose are better. Maplefern 11:44, December 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:55, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink and nose need to be more of a rosy colour. Also, the mud streaks look painted on. Look at the approved prey-hunter stripes as a good example; these haven't quite been perfected on the caveguards yet. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 21:36, December 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:19, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is WAY to bright. It should be more of a samlon color. Darken it a bit. -- ♥Shine star♥  02:21, December 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * I lightened it some time ago, but then Sandy told me to make it a rosy colour, so that's what I did.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:02, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you should go to red (not the pink) and select a pink from there. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!

I know Lightning. I said rosy but I didn't mean bright pink. Look at... Rippletail, Cloudtail, um, I can't think of any more right off the top of my head but look at the aproved images. Sorry for the confusion. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 14:40, December 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 05:42, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Run the burn tool over the ear pink and nose pink, it looks hot pink. But it's getting better!--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 06:06, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:19, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Anything else?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:06, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the mud streaks a lot, and then it should be good. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 15:29, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:12, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 16:05, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks more of a hot pink... make it more salmony. -- Snow star Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 16:30, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Make the nose a more grayish pink.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 00:29, December 26, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded, and btw, images are approved in 24 hours, this should've been approved on the 25th.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:12, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Eugh, no it should not. 24 hours is a guideline and people cannot be expected to be online on Christmas day; we have lives too. This is the second time in the space of 5 minutes I've seen a comment like that and it is not making me happy =( Regardless, this image had comments made so the 24 hours must start over once the image has been fixed. I still don't think it's ready however as the ear pink is still too bright. Look at Rippletail, Weaselfur etc and use that colour. Sorry if I sound harsh. Sandy  wishes you a great Christmas!  17:25, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Tadpole (K) -- For Approval!
Hey, Tadpole's back! Since he still didn't have an image and Rainpelt's verson left, I thought i have a go at him. Comments? Hopefully, no concerns!! :) -- Rosey Happy Leaf-bare!

Maybe add some highlights,the lineart is a little hard to see.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 23:04, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

well, i was actually gonna post it again as i have become active here again, but i wont go ohez noez a lot, so no worries from me. i cant see shading, so make it darker, and add a bit more green to the eyes. &#91;&#91;user:rainpelt&#124;rainpelt&#93;&#93; 01:31, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not seeing much eye color... -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 12:01, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Um, Rainpelt, his eyes are supposed to be amber. Not green.-- Rosey Happy Leaf-bare!

Reuploaded -- Don't know if the changes showed up... -- Rosey Happy Leaf-bare!

his eyes gotta be hazel from what i see. hazel is a greenish brown rainpelt 00:16, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is too bright, make it more of a deep red, and blur it a lot.-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  21:16, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in a while. Please update soon, or it'll have to be declined--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 07:38, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I've been busy with homework and stuff. BTW, how can i make hazel colored eyes when on pixlr, I can only do a single color. Help!! -- Rosey Happy Leaf-bare!

What do you mean you can only do a single color? In pixlr, click on the color boxes, and you can change the colors with a lot of variety. (Does that make any sense?) -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 15:16, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it makes sense but I can't get like a hazel color, being that it's a tan+green color, and I don't think you can get that on pixlr. If I'm wrong, then I'm wasteing some space on here. Anyone know what I should do? -- Rosey Happy Leaf-bare!

Just make it a brownish color with green in it if possible. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 00:51, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- Fixed it. Don't know if it's too green. -- Rosey Happy Leaf-bare!

It's okay, but make the ear pink more of a reddish color. Also, the entire image is too dark, lighten it up a bit. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 19:34, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Tornear (E) For Approval
Well, I figured Tornear needed an elder picture. What do you think? I tried to make the stripes look as much like his warrior image as I could. How is it?--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:58, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

I love the neck and below, but the head looks bland, add a highlight and some more shading over there.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Red; Background:Green;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Minnowclaw 16:45, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Is this better Minnow?--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:42, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I love Tornear! He's so cool! And I love the way your tabby stripes turned out! But... Can you blur the shading on the tail? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 12:41, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hey guys, please don't take this down. When I try to upload it, the changes don't show up. Don't worry, I'll get it fixed!--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 07:06, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

MY INTERNET IS BACK PEOPLE!!! I'm working on this, I promise!--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:36, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED: REUPLOADED PEOPLE!! YAY! MERRY CHRISTMAS!--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 04:17, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? Anyone? I didn't mean to scare people with all the joyous yelling, I'm just happy that my internet is back!--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:32, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

I can't see anything wrong. Comments before approval? Sa nd  y!  22:08, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Speckletail - For Approval


The pale tabby queen who became an elder. My second cat! Please comment.--Night shine 05:47, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty dang good. The only things I can see would be to blur the tabby markings some more, darken the shading, and darken the ear pink. Onther than that, you did well. ; ) -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 14:26, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Mumble said it all! LOL! Yeah, all I see is the stuff that Mumble already mentioned! -- Rosey Happy Leaf-bare!

Hopefully I made it better ^^--Night shine 23:32, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Your picture automatically updates, so you don't need to re-post. Just reupload it. As for the image, personally I think the ear pink is too purple. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare! 23:57, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

I changed the ear pink color--Night shine 01:04, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I think Darkhallows had Speckletail reserved first--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 07:36, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Night shine, Darkhallows reserved it first and you aren't a member.

Shady's time limit ran out. The two weeks she had to do the image have been used up. I say again;there is no such thing as reserved. Night shine is perfectly able to do this image. Night is a member; check the list. For the image, Night, you need to add more tabby stripes on the chest and on the haunch and blur them in more. Also add some lengthen the shading and blur it into the pelt some more. -- Tinsel claw  22:16, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't Speckletail a pale brown tabby she-cat?-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  22:24, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

This is pale brown tabby. -- Tinsel claw  22:28, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know, it looks cream colored to me--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 08:43, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

she looks great to me!!good tabby markings and shading!-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  09:10, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's really cool.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Tinselbreeze ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 20:01, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on since the 14th, Night Shine. Please work on this or it will be declined as there are still outstanding comments for improvement. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 10:30, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry! I'm working on fixing it right now.--Night shine 15:32, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--Night shine 05:10, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

I really like this =) Just add some more stripes to the rest of the body and head etc, perhaps ake some of different lengths and sizes. Then run over them with the blur tool once or twice to blend slightly. (Also, remember to sign with ~ Sa  nd  y!

Jayfeather (MC) - For approval


I was surprised no one had made/reserved him when I did... anyway, he's been gathering dust in my files while I've waited for Snowfur to be approved (she just was!!), so here he is. I think I might need to darken the stripes. Comments? Concerns? -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 01:14, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

His eyes are white, he may be blind, but Jayfeather does not have white eyes. Make them blue, please. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Jinglefire 'Tis the Holiday Season! 01:46, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink appears purplish and the tabby stripes are too blurred. Feel free to ignore the marking part. Tinselfern Have yourself a merry little Leaf-bare!02:03, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Jayfeather already has a Mc picture by Dawnfeather-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 04:32, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

The stripes are way to blurred. And the highlights on his face look like cobwebs, as do the ones on his legs. Blurr them some more please. And yes, Bracken's right about Dawnfeather's picture. I don't really know if it's been approved, you'll probably have to ask Bramble or Sandy--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 06:38, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well, Jayfeather is still an apprentice on his page, and he hasn't been reserved by anyone. So I would think that ment I could do him. My computer is sick, so I need to get on my mom's to fix those things. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 11:53, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Whilst Dawn's image was very good, it was never submitted for approval as far as I know and so has not been officially accepted by the project. This can stay up. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 19:04, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Sandy. Anyway, I fixed the things you guys said. I had to save a new file because the changes weren't showing up. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 23:53, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, the ear pink looks kinda, lopsided. Try straightening it more, and make it a little darker. Jayfeather is a tabby, but he hardly has any stripes. Try making them thicker, and adding more. Google a gray tabby for reference. But this is much better than before =)--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 01:13, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Added more stripes and fixed ear pink. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 11:46, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Okay...can you add shading to the shoulderish part? Do you see where I mean? Just dodge tool it and then blur and it looks good!-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  22:21, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and less bright, make it more salmon-ish. And blur it.-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! |undefined 23:53, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed ear pink and shoulder. (: -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 11:49, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

the earpink needs to be blurred more and maybe darken his tabby stripes a little. I can't really see the ones on his body.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 21:42, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg's shading needs to be blurred a little more.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  20:07, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Tried to darken the stripes without making them too dark. Blurred leg shading and earpink. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 23:40, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Make the earpink alittle smaller it takes up the whole ear.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 00:24, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Errr, it's supposed to. If you look at a cat's ear, the ear pink takes up the whole inside of the ear. It's not just like a big pink splotch. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 04:04, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

If you look at other approved images it dosent fill the whole ear so I think you should make it smaller.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 16:32, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Just make it slightly smaller so that it isn't touching the lineart. Also make it a more reddish colour - like Rippletail or Tornear's images. Go over the stripes once with the burn tool and run over them once with the blur tool. Perhaps add a small highlight to the herbs as well for a finishing touch. Look at Leafpool's Med Cat image as an example. Sa nd  y!  22:12, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Better? -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 00:18, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Minty (Q) ~ For Approval


Heheh, she's so nice. :-) One of the images is about to be deleted, so it wont be 36 for long. Comments? -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 18:29, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Poor Minty! Anyway, onto the image, I think you need to blur the highlights a bit more, and maybe lighten the ear pink. But, otherwise, she looks awesome, Mumble! -- Angelstar Silver Bells 19:03, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll get onto that ASAP. ;-) -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 19:47, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think Nightfall101 had her already! i swear! but this is good Mumble!--Echopaw 21:15, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... I know it says she's a queen on her page, but she isn't really. If she needed an image, she would be a loner. She had her kits as a loner, and the term queen is only used in Clans, just as kit-mother is used in the Tribe. Other loner/rogue she-cats who had kits aren't classified as queens, such as Sasha. It would be different if this was like Daisy, who had her kits and then joined a Clan, but Minty never joined or will join a Clan. So I don't think she should have a queen image, but a loner image instead. Please correct me if I'm wrong. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 21:41, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from Bluestar but the definition of queen is any she-cat expecting or nursing kits. As for the image it's really good but I agree with Angelstar.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 21:47, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Awsome Mumble! But I do agree with Bluestar. I think she should have a loner blank rather than a queen blank. Oh and Echo, yes, I did have her reserved for a while, but I had never done a loner before, and when I tried doing Minty, it didn't turn out so good. So, I decided to let someone else do her--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 08:32, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

I discussed my view on this with Bluestar; you can see on her talk page. The bottom line is that this is the correct blank; she-cat nursing kits or pregnant is a queen, thus she be used with a queen blank. Tinsel claw  22:22, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

When I checked nobody had reserved her...? I'm gonna take a look at the discussion, and decide what to do about the blank, but I think I might stick with the queen; A queen is really just a pregnant or nursing she-cat. -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 17:44, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Blurred her more, kept the blank the same. Anything else? -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 17:52, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

The earpink looks kind of dark, but that's just my opinion. Ignore me if you think the color is good. -- Night whisker 9 8 Merry Leaf-bare! 16:42, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. I'll lighten it up a tad, as well as the shading. -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 16:25, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Sorry it took so long, I was busy. Lightened the ear pink, but left the shading alone. Anything else? -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 22:51, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I think it looks nice.Lighten the shading a tad,please. '''FirePelt  01:22, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

kk. -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 18:14, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

UPLOADED. That's the best I could do. :P -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 18:21, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

It looks better!(Shading wise,everytihng else is perfect)You are a talented artist I have to tell you that!(^=._.=^) '''FirePelt 02:07, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! ^-^ -- GOT REI NDE ER? Mumble! 17:28, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's still too dark in places and I can't see the lineart - the base of her tail, her belly and some areas on her chest and shoulders. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 17:30, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Foxleap (W)-For Approval


I have to say, THANK YOU ICESTORM!!! :D I like this picture WAYYYY better than my Ryewhisker!!! Well, here is Foxleap!-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  23:17, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Well, this is good Moss, but two things. 1)The image has to be full size. 2) The coloring is wrong, Foxleap is red brown tabby. Right now it's just brown tabby. Look at his apprentice picture for help-Foxleap--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 01:18, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

It is the right size Nightfall... the colourig could be more reddish though. Apart from that, this is really very good. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 22:09, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded Did it change? Or is it still on the original?-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  16:53, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

It changed, but it still doesn't look like the same color as on his apprentice image. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 18:53, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded did I get it right this time?-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  22:59, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Make it a LITTLE redder.-- :) Jingletalon I've been dreaming of a Warriors Christmas |undefined 03:14, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Mouse is right. This looks way to brown. Look at his apprentice picture---Foxleap--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 04:42, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

'Reuploaded-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  22:54, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

This looks much better. I can barely see the ear pink, though. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 23:00, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I'm so sorry, but I still think it looks to, brownish-orange--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:03, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

1) Reuploaded made ear pink lighter, more visible and 2) I think it's fine, but I might just be saying that becuase it's my image...what does everyone else say? I always pictured Foxleap looking more russety than Firestar-red.-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  23:07, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I know, I'm sorry Moss. It really is a good image, it's just the color that's bothering me. But the seniors might think differently--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:10, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

We'll see what they think. Acutally, I might make the stripes more visible anyways, they're too faint. (I know, I'm corredting myself :D)-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  23:15, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the stripes faint, maybe darken them? Also, color wise, it does look more orange than red...maybe try using the sponge tool or red eye whatever-it's-called tool? (it's an eye that's looking at you on the toolbar). -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 00:42, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded darkned tabby stripes. I tried the red-eye tool, but it made the picture grayscale instead. Also, on the apprentice image, it looks a little orange so that's how I kept it.-- Scroogepath Bahumbug!  01:00, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I think this looks great. Comments before approval? Sa nd  y!  22:14, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Ryewhisker (W) - For Approval
My first tabby. I did the best I could. I really want this approved by Christmas. Please! Comments before Christmas? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:28, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe more shading and some more stripes.-- Darkhallows 12:18, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the ear pink more, add more shading and blend, darken the tabby sttipes, and add more tabby stripes. Also, make them a little more wavy and not strait y's.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Red; Background:Green;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Minnowclaw 17:55, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Done. Wait I am too lazy to put the Reuploaded sign up. Wait I just did! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:29, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

The shading looks messy. Blur it and add highlights to the head and tail.-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! |undefined 01:46, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Try adding some tabby stripes to the face, and make them less of a pattern of Ys but soe squggly lines, some Ys, and some little dashes in between the lines.-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  20:04, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Um I don't get what your saying. Help? -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 21:43, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Icestorm, she means that the stripes are shaped liked 'Y's. Add a line in between some of them and make them smaller. Maplefern Hi!14:09, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Whole image re-done. I also tried a diffrent style of shading. Any more comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 22:13, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I would probably blur the shading a little more, and make the stripes a little longer. Also, add some stripes to the legs. But other than that, it looks great!--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:34, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Do I really have to? I was thinking of adding some lines and I kinda like it how it is now. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:43, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Which do you guys like better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:46, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I like the one on the right better. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:13, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

The one on the right is better. All I can say is tone down the ear pink a little bit, blend the corners of it, and maybe add a little more shading? Should be good to go, then. (: -- Quiet !... 08:15, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

So the one on teh right? Tell me if the changes didn't show up. Oh and Quietstep can you reply to my friend requst? Thanks! I don't think the changes showed up.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 18:44, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

The right one although the ear pink needs blurring (which, if done right, should dull the colour a little too as it will mix in with the brown), the stripes look very blotchy and blurred. Perhaps make them a solid colour and more defined. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 17:49, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Can you tell me how to fix them? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 17:56, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Tell me if the changes didn't show. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 21:13, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Icicle - For Approval
I know it needs work but I've stared at it so long I don't know what. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:pink; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">~Mistpelt~ 18:53, December 19, 2009 (UTC) i think its nice but i think you need to make the eyes brighter ~iceyfang

White chest is too bright. Maplefern Hi!22:22, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I know that she is a pale gray she-cat, but right no she looks white. Darken the whole thing a bit.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Red; Background:Green;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Minnowclaw 02:49, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined Sa  nd  y!  22:15, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Violet(R)-For Approval


Hawkfire gave me Violet to work on,improve,and fishish about 2 minutes before she eft.I did the shading,ect. and now Im putting her up for approval.Comments?Questions?help?critique? '''FirePelt 05:04, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

It's very good Fire! But, she looks very yellow. She's supposed to be orange, with thin darker orange stripes. I'm not sure if there's a way to change the color without starting over... oh, maybe you could try running the burn tool over her a couple of times? What do you guys think?--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 08:45, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

A couple of times over with the saturate tool should do the trick, but remember to put her ear pink and eye olour back in. I also feel that the shading is too rigid and doesn't look like shadows at all - try thickening and blurring it (use the faded out burn tool to add shading and then blur) Sandy  wishes you a great Christmas! 10:23, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Kk.I'll work on it as soon as I come back from shopping,prob wont be able to work on it till about,4 o' clock,eastern standered time. '''FirePelt 18:52, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Also, since she was apart of BloodClan (was she? I don't have Cats of the Clans or whatever book it might have been comfirmed in) add claws and a BloodClan cats. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:55, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

She as not part of bloodclan.She lived with barley in a park. '''FirePelt 01:41, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Anything else?The shding,im un-shure about.I did the best I can not to mess it up wth the saturate tool. '''FirePelt 02:28, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Try looking at the shading on other approved rogues or lighten it.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 00:19, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

She still looks yellow... I think you should try for the colour used on her Loner version (see declined art) Sa  nd  y!  22:16, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

I'll try to,but the only problem is,that hawky gave me this with the color and stripes.I added the eyes,nose,feet,and shading,and if I do something to the color,the whole thing will mess up,but I'll do my best! '''FirePelt 23:53, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Fixed the shading,did all I could for the color.But I cant figure out how to make it orange with redoing it. '''FirePelt 00:05, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Run the burn tool over the entire image.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! |undefined 04:30, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Anything else?thanks mousetalon ! '''FirePelt 14:21, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Millie(Q)- For approval
-- ok since whitewing is approved i thought i'd put up Millie. she is my first tabby! and i am quite proud of her. comments? <font color="Red" style="background:lime">Santamoon <font color="Red" style="background:Lime">Merry Christmas!

Looks good. The thing is, The stripes should be thinner --Rainstripe c: 16:33, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, discounting the 3 discussion sections this just fits nto 35 images. The stripes need to be less cartoony; look at some aproved tabbies for reference. There are a few different styles you can try. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 16:44, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ears are too dark and need blurring. Sandy's right. The tabby markings are too thick, and could do with more blurring. --Birchy (I don't know how to get a signature!!)

The tabby stripes need to look more like Millie's stripes on her warrior image. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 17:51, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, the ear pink needs blurred, and fix the color; make it more like the color in Millie's warrior image. You don't need ear pink on the ear farthest from us (the left ear), so get rid of that. You need to make the stripes more like Millie's warrior image, and then blur the stripes. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 15:38, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Make the stripes more like Millie's warrior image,please.Blur the ear pink,fix color,like her warrior image.Delete the farthest ear pink,it's not needed.I can see your proud to,everyone is for there first's of anything!-- '''FirePelt  02:12, December 24, 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

ok with these comments i will redo her completely. she should be reuploaded in around 2 days,<font color="Red" style="background:lime">Santamoon <font color="Red" style="background:Lime">Merry Christmas!

Shellheart(D)-For approval
My first official Char art. I like the way he turned out. Pretty Pretty c: Ready for approval! Comments? --Rainstripe c: 17:17, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

is it me or do i see a gray blurr on its chest ~iceyfang

Looks good! I would blur the shading, though, and the eyes need to have a glare and pupil. See Icethroat's tutorials for info on how to do the eye. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 18:08, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Bluestar1776.Blur the shading.I did the eye for you.(sorry if you get mad,I wanted to help you!) '''FirePelt 18:15, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

FirePelt, you need to give users a chance to improve for themselves; this is Rainstripe's first charart afterall. Rainstripe and Iceyfang, please sign with ~. As for the image, it needs ear pink. Take a look at some tutorials for how to do this if you are stuck. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 18:38, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Re-uploaded with ear pink and more blur. --Rainstripe c: 18:55, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

This is very good, Ranstripe:D But, the ear pink should only be on one ear (the one that is on the side of the head that is facing us). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Green; background:Crimson;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Green;">Hawktalon Merry Xmas! 19:09, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Re uploaded fixed ear pink. Ready for approval!!--Rainstripe c: 19:15, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

i still see gray on his chest Iceyfang 19:28, December 20, 2009 (UTC)iceyfang

Its shading. Durr --Rainstripe c: 19:31, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

No, I think I see it too, a paler grey - the shading should reach the lineart. Also, the ear pink needs to be smaller and a more rosy/salmon colour. Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 19:34, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Re uploaded. Fixed

Please remember to sign all of your posts with the four tildes(~). I see a shadow behind him. It shouldn't be there.-- :) Jingletalon I've been dreaming of a Warriors Christmas |undefined 21:28, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Re uploaded P: --Rainstripe c: 22:46, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

His back looks faded and that gray patch is still on the front of him.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 22:48, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Whole image redone. --Rainstripe c: 23:11, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

the eyes seem yo be life less can give the eyes a puil Iceyfang 23:59, December 20, 2009 (UTC)iceyfang

Check Icethroat21's tutorial for eye diagrams. The spots look. . . circular. Make them more uneven and natural, like on Brambleberry. The ear pink is way too large. Make it smaller and darker and blur it.-- :) Jingletalon I've been dreaming of a Warriors Christmas |undefined 15:44, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Raineh 20:20, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

i think theres some gray in the open spots or it might be me Iceyfang 22:23, December 23, 2009 (UTC)iceyfang

I see it too. Fix that and I think he'll be ready.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 00:13, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

I dont understand. Mabie could you explain it more? --Raineh 13:44, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

The space between his front and back legs is light gray. It needs to be transparent or atleast white.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 16:28, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Stormfur (CG) - For approval


I have no clue where he went, so here he is again! xD -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 23:45, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

nice job Iceyfang 00:04, December 21, 2009 (UTC)iceyfang

Darken the ear pink and mudstreaks. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 12:58, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

His earpink seems crooked. Maplefern Hi!15:28, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed ear pink and mud streaks. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 15:57, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Blur all of the mud streaks multiple times until they're blurred really good. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 15:46, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Better? -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 20:31, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Yup. Add couple of highlights, or darken the shading, I can barely tell the difference between the shading and the actual fur color. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 20:57, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I think the earpink is too bright for a gray cat.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 01:26, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Better? -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 20:45, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

One, make the earpink less hot pink, and two, the mud patch on his back is too round...and least for me...try making it just a streak, not patchy.-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  23:37, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if it's just my computer, but the ear pink doesn't look hot pink at all to me. Also, that's how the mud streaks are on other approved cave guards, so I think it looks fine. Please don't take this as me just refusing to work. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 16:35, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...I think it's okay, actually. Bluestar, just make the ear pink more of a reddish color like on Rippletail and then it should be good. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 16:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Better? Also, please comment on my Jayfeather! He hasn't been commented on in forever and I think he's ready. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 16:28, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Sa nd  y!  22:07, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Fallowtail- For Approval
It's one of my first chararts and I'll be willing to take any comments on it. --Echoheart 12:12, December 21, 2009 (UTC)Echoheart

Their are highlights above her paw, I don't know if their suppose to be their if so blur them if not get rid of them. Darken the ear pink and maybe thicken the shading. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 12:56, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Add shading near her belly. Maplefern Hi!13:06, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

It looks pixelated, and this is because you saved it on a jpg file. Unfortunately, you have to redo it and then save it on a png file. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Green; background:Crimson;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Green;">Hawktalon Merry Xmas! 15:04, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you have to redo it now. Just run the sharpen tool over it once or twice and save it as png.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 16:46, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

This might just be me being picky, but I don't really think the color is quite right. Her description says "light brown" this is like, golden-yellow.--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 01:14, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--Echoheart 12:28, December 23, 2009 (UTC)Echoheart

Warrior, the sharpen tool makes it look more pixelated, not less.. Right now the image is already pixelated a bit, and its still a jpg. The background needs to be transparent, and it should be a png or even a gif to keep the transparency and quality. Unfortunately, I think you might need to redo this to do that though, like Hawk said earlier... -- Quiet !... 21:03, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Stonestar(L) - For Approval
I TRIPLE-CHECKEDthis time. So I do NOT think anyone else has done this. If they have, I will wallow in shame. Much shame. Anyway, here is a charart of Stonestar. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; background:crimson; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">CandyCaneWolf 00:33, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful charart. And No, It hasn't been done/reserved. Try shading the outside of the Hing leg. Maplefern Hi! 00:52, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is lovely Wolfie. (I'm going to start calling you that. :P) Just blur the shading a bit. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 01:29, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Okey dokey; i will when I get home. I'm at school right now. And I did put shading on the hindleg, but I guess it's too teeny to be seen. I'll fix it, as well as blurring the shading. --<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; background:crimson; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">CandyCaneWolf 15:50, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded How's this? --<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; background:crimson; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">CandyCaneWolf 17:53, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I can see you've used the smudge tool. You need to blur! =) Sandy  wishes you a great Christmas!  18:13, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Dapplenose (E) - For Approvel
...Haven't done of these in three months, so don't be too hard. It's horrible, I know. By the way, my birthday's tomorrow! Yay me. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 17:59, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Happpy birthday! Anyway, the whisker is blurred. Maplefern

Add ear pink --Icecloud33 01:52, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Good, but Dapplenose is mottled. She looks more like solid gray in this picture--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 04:38, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Weird. It looks are blurry but it isn't on my computer. O.o I'll go fix it. -.-;--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 16:20, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Her front paws don't seem to have shading on them. -- Quiet !... 21:10, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Needs ear pink.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! |undefined 19:16, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Gorsetail (NP Warrior)-for approval
Here's Gorsetail...I'm pretty sure nobody's reserved him...so..how is he?-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 18:40, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! --Raineh 00:13, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Very good job! Just darken the ear pink a little, so we can see it, and blur some of the highlights.--<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 00:16, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

reupladed -- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 19:17, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a reddish color, and then it should be ready. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 19:53, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

And try to make the ear pink not touch the lineart.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! |undefined 20:56, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Heavystep (E) - For Approval
I know I'm past the limit, but at least 4 images are in the approval stage, so I figured it was okay. Anyway, my first tabby! Comments/Criticism? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 00:15, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

This looks really good, Rainwhisker! All I can see is to make the ear pink more of a reddish color, and to maybe add a stripe or two in the middle on the hind leg in what looks like an empty space. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:36, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Done. Anything else? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 01:15, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

looks good. Comments before approval?-- Darkhallows 16:23, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Swallowtail -For approval
My first Charart What do you think?
 * --Icecloud33 01:49, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * nice something I see is the line of shading is very distinct. Trying using te blur tool to soften it up a bit. Also, you need more shading, and the shading shouldn't be in such a straight line, it should hug to the edge of the picture. And the ear pink is slightly too low try puting it more in the ear. Other then that it's looking very nice :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:30, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Is this better? --Icecloud33 19:21, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

lol, this is good =) (Nice to see my shading style being copied - and if you didn't then don't tell me; I'll let myself feel pleased that you did!). I would suggest adding some highlights along the back. Sandy  wishes you a great Christmas!  18:12, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added highlights, anything else? --Icecloud33 18:57, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more like the color on Rippletail, and then this should be good. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 01:21, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I changed the ear pink. Is it better? --Icecloud33 19:56, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. Comments before approval? -- Icethroat Happy New Years! 00:05, December 27, 2009 (UTC) wait!!blur the shading.-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  04:27, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Leafpool- For Approval
my second charart...comments??-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  10:15, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * it needs more shading, all the tail is a good thing to do and the ear with out the earpink on it can have shading on it to, other then that for now I can't see any thing else. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:34, December 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Is this charart leafpool? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:14, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

This doesn't look much like her Medicine cat version Icecloud33 13:41, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Try to smudge and blur the tabby markings to make them look more natural. Otherwise, it's good! --<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; background:crimson; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">CandyCaneWolf 17:55, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Try to make it more of a sandy brown, as she probally got her fur color from Sandstorm. Make the chest white go up to her face, like in Leafpool's medicine cat image. The eyes also seem to be going off the lineart a bit. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 20:49, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  08:07, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, the color is much better. But I still have a few things

1. The stripes on her back need to be connected to her back in some way

2. The stripes need to be blurred more

3. The white on her chest is still way to big

4. The white on her chest needs to stretch up to her face

5. The white on her paws should be smudged into her pelt and then blurred

Here's something you should do. Save Leafpool's approved medicine cat image, and then bring it up in your art program along with your image. That way you can make it as close as possible--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 08:40, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

reploaded-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  12:05, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

The pelt doesn't match Leafpool's medicine cat image. And the eye is freaking me out. Try looking at Stoneclaw on how to do the eye. Also she needs ear-pink. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 17:09, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  04:08, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Scree Beneath Winter Sky-For Approval
My first cavegaurd. I must say im pretty proud of it. Comments? -- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 17:32, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Is he a tabby or is that mud? If he's not covered in mud, you might want to add some in a more reddish shade so it doesn't blend with the markings. I really like this, though! Good job! --<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; background:crimson; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">CandyCaneWolf 17:56, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I don't get what you're saying. He's a tabby and has mudstreaks. Are you saying to make the mud more red?-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 18:05, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

That is exactly what Wolfie is saying. Add more red or darken them. I can't see them. Maplefern

Well brown wouldnt really show up on brown and he is described as mud-colored.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 02:44, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I'm with Ashshadow, you wouldn't be able to see the mud, and if he is mud colored, he might not have any mud on him anyways since they use it to disguise the cats.-- Scroogepath Bahumbug!  18:24, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I agree, you wouldn't be able too see the mud streaks much on this. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:12, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, comments before approval? Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 17:32, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Crag where eagles nest(CG)-For Approval


This is my first ever cave guard.I'm not shure about the mud streaks though.Comments?Critque?Questions?Help? '''FirePelt 05:06, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

You need to color the space between his legs and right now he looks kind of black. Lighten him a little. As for the mud, it looks kinda shiney(cant think of a better word)-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 15:12, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Kk.I'll work on it as soon as I come back from shopping,prob wont be able to work on it till about,4 o' clock,eastern standered time. '''FirePelt 18:53, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Also, darken the ear pink. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 19:43, December 24, 2009 (UTC)Icestorm!

Reuploaded.Anything else? '''FirePelt 02:10, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Add somemore shading, and blur the brown streaks.-- Darkhallows 15:07, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Anything else? '''FirePelt 15:38, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the earpink,shading, and mud some more. This is very good.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 00:08, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs to be thicker and blurred more as I can barely see it. Sa nd  y!  22:18, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Anything else? '''FirePelt 23:51, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewater (E) - For Approval
*shrugs* Not much to say for thie one. I know she already has a warrior image, but she's an elder now, and needs an elder image. Comments and suggestions? -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 22:00, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading from the back of the neck to the tip of the tail. She's beautiful :D-- MossScrooge Bahumbug!  22:23, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. How's this? -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 00:39, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Perfect! But that's up to the senior warriors...-- Scroogepath Bahumbug!  00:42, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Wonderful job,Icethroat.I always though you where a VERY talented artist.Again,amazing job! '''FirePelt 05:09, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Sandy wishes you a great Christmas! 18:10, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

The highlights on the haunch and shoulder look like big white spots. Blur them a bit. -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 19:44, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I've blurred it as much as it can blur... -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:29, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

I think it looks pretty good.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Tinselbreeze ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 19:10, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry for my premature 24 hour call - the transition looked and still does look fine to my eyes ;) Repeating, comments before approval? Sa  nd  y!  22:19, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Molepelt (MC) For Approval
Did I go over the image limit? If I did, feel free to remove. I just did this for fun. Still waiting for comments on Ryewhisker. Anyways how is he? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 22:58, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Neat! I really like it. Maybe make the medicine stuff in his mouth a darker green, so it looks more natural. Otherwise, it's awesome! --<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; background:crimson; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">CandyCaneWolf 23:15, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I love it Icy! But I think you should probably blur the shading and highlights some, especially around the neck. But it's awesome!--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 23:32, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

His ear pink seems to be a bit too bright - the shade is right, its just light. Highlights would make it seem like there's more shading, and the herbs would look better if all three were different shades(don't forget to shade them, too!). -- Quiet !... 08:08, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I had actually reserved him, but you keep this up; I still haven't got around to doing him anyways, haha. Also, merry Christmas! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:07, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

This is awsome! Darken and blur earpink and it should be good! Merry Christmas! 18:23, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with maple,darken and blur the ear pink,it looks to much like a triangle with a squished top,its to clear by that I mean.Blur it a bit and darken it. '''FirePelt 14:28, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Dawnflower (E) - For Approval
I did my best to make this look like her warrior image. Comments and suggestions? -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 01:56, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Tis is great! Just darken teh ear pink --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 03:21, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I made it the same exact color as her warrior image, but I'll get to it sometime tomorrow or the day after. Thanks for the compliment, though. :) -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 04:13, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. How's this? -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:31, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Stonepelt(E) - For Approval


First elder, second tabby. I like how his markings came out here more than they did on Troutpaw. (: Anywho, what do I need to fix still, or is this good to go? -- Quiet !... 08:20, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Just ad a slash (scrape) over his shoulder and do some shading--HI 10:23, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Echopaw, please sign correctly. Also, there's nothing in his description about a scar/slash on his shoulder, and there IS shading.. -- Quiet !... 16:56, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

well is this stonepelt as in bluestars mentor because he retierd to the elders den because he got a bad cut on his shoulder sorry quiet:"(--Merry Leaf-Bare to all and all a good night! 17:22, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Echopaw is correct, Stonepelt did have to retire due to a shoulder injury, as seen in Bluestar's Prophecy. Also, Echopaw, please sign using four of these: ~, or hit the signiture button. We need to know who you are. (: -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 19:48, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thats true but it could've just gotten infected, and if it did leave a scar we don't know which shoulder it was. It could be on the other side or him.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 19:59, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

I always thought the shoulder bone got dislogded or something, and never healed properly. I could be wrong (I probably am) But that's how I've always pictured it. And Ash is right, it could be on the other side--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 21:10, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

It could have meant numerous things, which is why I didn't add a scar. :\ -- Quiet !... 03:34, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

This picture is beautiful!-- Nightshine Happy Holidays! 18:38, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, no scar as we have no reference. If we get more information at a later date, this can be edited to include a scar. Comments before approval? Sa nd  y!  22:22, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Pouncetail (E) - For Approval
I know this is over the image limit, but there's a whole bunch that are in the 24-hour stage, so I think I'm safe. Anyway, merry Christmas everybody:D I got a tablet today, too:D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Green; background:Crimson;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Green;">Hawktalon Merry Xmas! 00:27, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

This is really good just maybe make the earpink a bit darker.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 00:32, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks, Ashshadow:) I darkened the ear pink. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Green; background:Crimson;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Green;">Hawktalon Merry Xmas! 00:44, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Yup, I think so.-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 00:47, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

This is great =) Blur the edges of the shading though as there is a distinct line between the shading and white of the pelt. Sa  nd  y!  22:23, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedpelt (W) - For Approval
I know this is over the image limit, but there are some images on the 24 hours already. My first tortoiseshell, Spottedpelt. I did my best to make her look like Spottedleaf, but I epically failed. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 01:26, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

You did not fail! This is great! Hold on let me get a good look at it. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:46, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, darken ear pink and make it smaller. Are the white spots completly white? If not make them a very very very light gray. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:48, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

This looks fantastic! I agree with Icestorm, though, the white parts of the fur need some shading. They don't have to be completely really light gray, you can put the burn tool on highlights instead of midtones and put it at about 10-14 percent and shade like you normally would. Also, make the ear pink more of a reddish color. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:33, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded I've darkened the white parts and made the ear pink reddish. Anything else? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 00:06, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink just a little bit darker, and then it should be good. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 02:26, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Dovepaw-For Approval
Since Kestrelflight was approved, I'm posting her. Anyway, I should apologise to Sandy (Sorry!). So here is Dovepaw. Second charart. Comments? Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 17:37, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Add ear-pink. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 17:42, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, don't worry about it =) Yes, add ear pink and darken the shading. Sandy  wishes you a great Christmas!  17:43, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Yes what Sandy said. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 17:45, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 17:48, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a reddish color. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 17:50, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

i think it's too bright now.... Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 17:56, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 18:02, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Anything else? Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 20:54, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

It looks. . . teal. Run the desaturate tool over it a few times.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! |undefined 20:54, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 21:02, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Anything else? Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 14:24, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Snaketail(P3)- For Approval
I tried to make him look like his warrior image. Comments?-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 17:44, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading. Otherwise, it looks great. Unless there is something I've missed... Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 18:04, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Shrewfoot (W)- For Approval
Well, not much to say about her. . . comments?-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! |undefined 19:13, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Oops! I didn't know Spottedwing had her reserved! Forgot to check. Sorry!-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! |undefined 20:10, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Try speaking to Spottedwing. Also, check how long ago she reserved her - if it was two weeks ago or longer, you can have her regardless. If it was sooner, and Spottedwing won't let you have her then you'll have to withdraw this. =( Sandy  wishes you a great Christmas!  20:22, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Pebblefoot-For Approval
Here is Pebblefoot! Third Charart. It said that once you had one image approved, you could put up two. Correct me if I'm wrong. And I hope this isn't over 35. Anyway, comments? Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare!19:56, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

The texture is great =) Just thicken and blur the shading, and blur the highlight on the face. Sa  nd  y!  22:24, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 22:46, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Anything else? Confettifern And a happy Leaf-bare! 23:22, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken all of the shading some more, and add some more to the tail. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 02:30, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maplefern 02:37, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Purdy(E) - For Approval


Okay, had a bit of a hard time with figuring out how to do patching, but Graypool's charart turned out to be a big help with that. (: Figured I'd go a bit more fancy than the previous tabbies I've done, too. -- Quiet !... 20:07, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

I was going to add him to my current projects and give him a go, but yours is much better than my attempt would have been! All I can see is that the ear pink needs to be more pink. This is great =) Sa  nd  y!  22:25, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Brightened and saturated the pink a bit more. Anything else? (: -- Quiet !... 22:49, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Snapper(R) - For Approval
this is my frist charart what do you think? Iceyfang 00:40, December 27, 2009 (UTC)iceyfang

Iceyfang... Please do not delete sections. All you need to do is click "Edit" next to the sections name and add your message to the bottom. -- Quiet !... 00:48, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i've got some things that you need to improve-

1. The image needs shading

2. The ear pink should only be on one ear, the one closest to us (His right)

3. The eye looks kinda creepy, add a pupil and eye white

5. His coloring doesn't look right. I don't think that cream or pink can be on a tortoiseshell. Look at, Redtail or Sorreltail for help on coloring

6. The patches of ginger look yellow, make them more orangish

7. All the patches of color need to be smudged into the pelt and then blurred

8. The scarrs look very strange, try making them more irregular, and a little farther a part

Okay, I'm done with my rambling--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 01:03, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded Iceyfang 01:26, December 27, 2009 (UTC)iceyfang

comments before approval? Iceyfang 02:22, December 27, 2009 (UTC)iceyfang

Iceyfang you dont have the power to put that and he still dosent really look tortiseshell to me. his base pelt color needs to be black or dark brown and then add markings.It still needs shading and theres some kind of design on hes pelt-- Ashshadow Happy Holidays! 02:26, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Look at my tutorials for an example of tortoiseshell. -- Icethroat21 Happy New Years! 02:29, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Ash is right, only senior warriors, Bramble, or Sandy can approve pictures. And Ice has some very useful tutorials on her page. Plus, (I don't mean to sound rude) but the image itself is kinda freakin me out... I think it's the eye--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 02:47, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

i fixed the eyes Iceyfang 03:03, December 27, 2009 (UTC)iceyfang

He still doesn't look like a tortoiseshell- not realistic at all. Cats do not have perfect circles or straight lines on their pelts.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! |undefined 04:27, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

And Ash is right about the base color. It needs to be either black or dark brown--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 05:45, December 27, 2009 (UTC)