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Daisy (Alt. Queen) -up for approval


Shade the strip of white on her back, where the shading ends. If the background is transparent, the shading should have no effect on the background. I see nothing else wrong. Nice job, Elorisa. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the back. 22:26, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I color-picked this, and it needs to be a very very light gray/silver. (barely white) Yours is completely white, change that, but other that and the other stated, it looks good. 22:28, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to withdraw this because I have no time to do it, between school and other wikia duties I have. Someone else can free to work on this. 03:23, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

There's little left to be done; I'll take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the shading along the back less blotchy. 03:31, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Everything has been blurred, the lineart has been fixed, and I've made it slightly more silver and less white. Is there anything else? -- 04:05, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. There is a white pixel on the haunch-- 04:31, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading can be made thicker just a tad more. 22:42, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Erm...Since Bramble left and Oblivion said that ppl w/ free time can do the ones Bramble took over I will take over...Snowbreeze 03:53, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded There...comments? Snowbreeze 04:05, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Daisy.queen.alt 20:24, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Center the ear pink, and make it less purple. 21:59, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploded comments Snowbreeze 22:07, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Form the ear-pink into more of a triangular shape. 23:15, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded comments? Snowbreeze 23:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Center the earpink. It's WAAAAAY off. And it's touching the lineart. ♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 00:10, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and I would lighten it some as well. 03:00, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

darken the ear pink and make it smaller. Also, blur the ear pink ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:38, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.... Snowbreeze 22:58, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink shape is now good, however, the colour is different. Make it even and darker. 04:17, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

REuploaded comments? Snowbreeze 19:56, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit. 00:04, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make it more triangular as well. 14:24, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink shape is fine. Darken the shading. 15:36, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

* coughs* Please rename it Daisy.queen.alt 19:02, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed the name comments? Snowbreeze 18:20, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

...no, you didn't. It's still called Daisy queen alt. Rename the image Daisy.queen.alt 21:36, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok,i know what happend,i didnt hit save when i fixed the name,duh,anway fixed that,comments? Snowbreeze 09:26, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Snowbreeze, remember to add a space after commas and periods, and try your best to spell words. The ear-pink seems smudged outward. 01:08, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, so very sorry, I fixed the ear-pink, anything else, and what did I misspell? Anyway comments? Snowbreeze 15:26, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink-- 17:19, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Also, center the ear pink a bit more. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, but the ear pink needs to be blurred. ~Lazy Mumble785 didn't log in. 02:11, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Also, make the background transparent. 22:26, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

My regets, sorry for not being on, i have other things gong on, but i Shall work on this. 71.164.203.114 00:13, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry about the background. It's already transparent. :) 00:32, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sagepaw (A)- For Approval


Blur all shading thoroughly, particularly that on the haunch. Other than that, very nice, Dovesong12. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! Blur the tail shading and the shading on the back. -- 20:31, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get right to it. Merry Christmas! o3o 15:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Had to rename it. Merry Christmas! o3o 17:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little.★ ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ ★ 17:08, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Sagepaw.apprentice.alt, or it will not show up on his page when it's approved. 11:31, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights brighter. -- 20:07, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

This is his actual apprentice form, I'll rename it Sagepaw.apprentice. Will get to later. Merry Christmas! o3o 21:54, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, that's what I meant... so many people name the alternate apprentice images wrong, it was just automatic for me to write that. Thanks for pointing that out! :) 21:58, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more noticeable. 03:32, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm getting to this, so please don't decline this, for I am VERY busy right now. Merry Christmas! o3o 22:00, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. 22:42, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you could blur the highlight on the tail. 03:05, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

If someone needs to take over because of inactiveness, could I take over? Mistfire Owl City! 04:15, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Dovesong still has a few days to work on this -- 23:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink not tough the line-art and blur the front paw closest to us. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:41, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Soooooo sorry for not being on here. I'm geting to it, but I had to swich computers. Give me just a bit. I'm off school due to ice, so I now have plenty of time. Merry Christmas! o3o 14:05, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I re-did him. Can someone help with blurring the shading? It won't blur. Merry Christmas! o3o 15:31, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - There is color outside the tali lineart. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:13, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 21:57, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur highlights and shading. 00:05, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more visible. <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  11:46, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone help me with the shading; it refuses to blur for me. <font color="Silver" >☯Silver <font color="Goldenrod" > Bells☮ 13:13, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I blurred the shading for you and darkened it a bit-- 17:59, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. A) - For Approval


Blur so that the pelt is smoothed, and not blotchy. Use the blur tool and smudge tool, whatever you can, to smooth out the patches of light and dark so it all runs together smoothly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? If so, blur the shading a lot. 21:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shading overall has been modified as well as blurred. I've uploaded twice, but there does not seem to be any change in the actual image. I will check back tomorrow and try uploading again if there is no change. -- 04:27, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I see the changes, I think. XD Move the ear-pink up so it isn't touching the line-art. 23:57, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, blur the shading on the paws and tail. 02:26, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think this is the correct version. The shading looks much to blotchy. 01:00, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

I see it fine, however, the shoulder highlight does need to be blurred. 05:19, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Since Bramble no longer wants to do images, anyone who isn't working on something can take over this. 20:25, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

If no one is taking over this image, may I do it? 21:33, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, make sure you reserve it, too. 23:13, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading. 02:30, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to smooth it out as best I could. Comments? 03:04, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the tail shading, lighten the ear pink a bit and move it up- 23:06, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I would blur the highlights some more. 14:25, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? 22:42, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

The shading seems really blotchy and the ear pink needs to be blurred and made a bit bigger. 21:15, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 19:06, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! I'm on vacation and I didn't have internet until today. I'll edit it as soon as I can. 14:39, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think I've blurred it to the max. Comments? 15:15, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights more consistent. 23:24, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any comments? 01:34, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall~Alt (ki)~ Up for Approval


Ear pink desperately needs to be blurred; take care not to blur the lineart. Make the pink color fade into the gray, so it is not popping out. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Background also needs to be transparent. 03:35, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

ok i'll get right on itMaplepool 23:00, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

There is one pixel that you are missing; on the back foot. 22:50, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that? Maplepool 23:01, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

oh i see a mistake allow me to fix it before you comment on it^^ Maplepool 23:07, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ok NOW you may comment Maplepool 23:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png there is an extra period there. Darken the shading, make the ear pink more reddish, darken the nose colour-- 04:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

You are still missing that extra pixel. Make the ear-pink smaller. 16:32, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:14, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

The backgound still isn't transparent. 21:43, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

um dumb question how do i make the background transparent? lol^^; sorry i dont know how...Maplepool 14:58, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I can do it for you. 23:25, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

oh PLEASE do it frostheart...I have no clue how^^; and when you do tht i'll make the changes. Maplepool 23:54, November 27, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!

nvm...i'll make the changes then frostheart,if she'll be nice enough,will make it transparent Maplepool 02:50, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!!

 Reuploaded  there i did some extra and if frostheart will mke the background transparnet i'd owe her one ^^ Maplepool 03:10, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!!

Make the ear pink darker. Also, make the highlights brighter and darken the shading. Blur the shading on the tail and on the haunch. -- 20:09, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Birchfall.kit.alt 01:55, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  gah^^; i already did Birchfall.alt.kit.png so to upload it i had to add the two...^^; embarssining... Maplepool 03:40, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the wait, I forgot. :P And I can't upload it, it reverts it to a past..photo. o_o So..I'll tell you how. XD You get the wand tool (looks like a wand. :3) and you click on the background. The kit image has a few loose pixels, so you have to click the strays and erase them. After you click the background, you select the erase tool and erase the background. 03:51, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

ok,thanks^^,I'll get it after school Maplepool 04:05, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that?..i hope i got it... Maplepool 22:43, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

dang i didnt....hold on let me fix that Maplepool 22:45, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading along the edges of his fur where you made it darker. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 22:49, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  there ows that?

Make the ear pinks more even and triangular. 03:34, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded Hows that? Maplepool 22:21, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink fit into the ears. When we say "make it more triangular" we don't mean make it into a perfect triangle, but make it less blobby. Y'know? Also, make the earpink shade a little less violent and blur it a lot. 23:55, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  there hows that? Maplepool 01:52, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

The background should be transparent. Great image, though! 04:19, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  thre got it^^ Maplepool 13:24, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome job! =D There is something going on with the tail shading, though. There are scraps of shading and highlights here and there. Could you make it more smooth? -- 01:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks ok i'll get right on it Maplepool 01:58, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Once again, please rename it Birchfall.kit.alt 02:02, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I mean no disrespect,Oblivion,but,I can't see,I have uploaded this so many times,it goes to a past photo,so,I add the number of tries till it gets approved,so if I seem disrepectful,its just because,I can't do it...my aplogies... Maplepool 02:12, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  comments? Maplepool 02:12, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink, thicken the shading, add shading under the chin. Rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png -- 06:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

I cant it revets it to a past photo....Maplepool 14:01, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? It should just overwrite over the existing one-- 04:29, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

While it wont!Im sorry it says 'this photo already exists etiher fix the name or go with one we have' ok? im sorry it just wont hacking work!god..sorry if im being rude,but this thingy going on with the names its,ANNOYING ME!....Maplepool 04:33, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's okay to overwrite the existing image. If it isn't named Birchfall.kit.alt.png it won't show up on his article-- 04:38, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that? i added the shading under the chin,I just use a weaker brush....Maplepool 03:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * faceplam* missed the name hold on...fixed there we goMaplepool 03:20, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and blur it. Desaturate the ear pink-- 03:23, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Erm stupid question again what does Desaturate mean? im like 14 and i dont remeber.....Maplepool 02:44, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturating is used with the sponge tool. It'll give you the option of either saturate or desaturate. Also, the shadin along the edges needs to be blurred more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  03:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows tht? gosh i had to keep restarting god GIMP HATES ME NOW T-T Maplepool 05:55, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading a lot more, darken the shading under the chin, make the ear pink more reddish, rename it Birchfall.kit.alt-- 06:19, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the background transparent. 01:10, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  *takes in breath* 'FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL EPIC FAIL!!!!!! 'Maplepool 13:39, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink could be desaturated or lightened, it's too bright and also needs to be blurred. Also, add a little more shading on the legs. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  14:24, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that?...doesn't look all that bad now.... Maplepool 15:01, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tips of his fur and make the background transparent. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 15:25, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  Comment ferclily i shall upload Maplepool 15:40, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Add more shading to the tail. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  15:57, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  comments?

Thicken the shading a lot blur it, add shading under the chin, darken the ear pink a bit. I suggest you make the nose colour dark gray-- 20:35, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded *takes in breath* '''FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL EPIC FAIL!!!!!! '''Nightshine,may i suggest a job for you? Book Editer/Crict,you almost made me miss doing my homework work on this,If i think/blur the shading hes gonna be black....

The shading is too dark on the edge of the fur, just lighten that a little bit... just a little. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  01:07, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

You still need to thicken the shading. I don't see how blurring the shading would darken it. Desaturate the ear pink- 03:56, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Question(wow...) How do I think the shading? and what i meant was,i keep on adding to the shading,it kept getting darker....Maplepool 04:09, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

The background needs to be transparent. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

O.o i thought it was....the plxir background for transpaernt is there.....Maplepool 13:13, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

First off, lighten the shading on his left side (our right) using the dodge tool and then increase the burn brush's size. Then shade the left side of Birchfall again. As for transparency, you can see here on how to do it. Hope this helps! 21:38, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Erm...i use Plxir...not gimp....anyway Reuploaded Maplepool 21:57, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, darken the shading under the chin, blur the shading-- 02:24, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

If you need to, I can make the background transparent for you (I have GIMP). 03:06, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:46, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ok,Fallingsnow,i'll make the changes,then make the backgound transparent pls^^ Maplepool 22:27, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded Ok,Fallingsnow,if you will make thae back ground transparent now pls Maplepool 22:48, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten/smooth the shading and smooth out the highlights. 00:11, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like the two ear pinks are different colors. It maybe just my computer though. 14:27, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Erm whitestrom,I think,when I looked at the picture,she had shading on the right side of Birchkit/fall,so the right ear-pink,will be 2 diff colors....Spotteddapple 15:21, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there's a lump on her chest; blur that out. And thicken the shading, cause now there's only a very thin outline of shading. 13:19, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I made the background transparent. Oh by the way, my username isn't Fallingsnow- it's Blackclaw09 (or Rainwhisker). I just made my sig to say Fallingsnow for the holidays. 21:32, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

If this is withdrawn/declined I could take over (XD I'm trying to take over a lot of chararts right now). Mistfire Owl City! 21:52, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok,i shall get to work,Blackclaw,my mistake,Mistfire,Are you trying to get rid of me? wha ;_; lol,just kidding,if it is,or if i can not work on this,you may take over,but for the time being,im working on this.Maplepool 01:08, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  comments? Maplepool 01:22, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not trying to get rid of you, it's just that I am epically, weirdly bored if I don't have some kind of quest on PCA. And maybe lighten the edge shading. Mistfire Owl City! 01:53, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

The background still isn't transparent, the right earpink and nose need to be lighter, and the shading around his sides to be lightened or blurred very profusely into the pelt. 01:56, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ok its not showing the changes,so i request you not to comment till the chages show and once they do comments? Maplepool 05:57, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * facepalm* of for the love of god,i forgot to downlod the one blackclaw uploaded god*mutters* ok,imm see if i can hunt the one blackclaw uploaded down,and mae the edits on that one,gimme some time...Maplepool 05:45, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

There is something going on with his chest....add more highlights to it or blur it out.... Snowbreeze 17:14, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the shading at the tips of his fur and smooth out the entire thing. Lighten the shading and have it extend further toward his legs. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:45, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded comments? Maplepool 01:55, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur the shading, define the ear pink, darken the shading under the chin and inbetween the forearms, I don't see a light source-- 02:23, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

REuploaded comments?Maplepool 04:34, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading in the red areas, get rid of the shading in the yellow areas. Make sure there is no blurred line art anywhere. This is what I meant by thickening the shading.-- 17:27, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, imma be taking a break for a while so i wont be on till January, im declining this and mistfire offered to take over, im takiing her up on her offer, she will continue this is she wants to im very sorry. 72.181.116.189 15:58, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry that was me.Maplepool 16:00, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mistfire is working on Blackstar, so unless she wants to withdraw that one to work on this one, someone else can take over. 00:00, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'd love to take over! I've proven to be hopeless with Blackstar anyways, so I can take this one! ℳerry spirit 22:16, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I'll do the shading later, I might be somewhere where there's wireless internet tomorrow. What do you think? 01:24, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, Mistfire. ;) Make sure to blur the shading on the right side, though. -- 02:57, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading in the areas I specified on the diagram and blur the shading-- 19:06, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit. Great job by the way! 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. ℳĨ₰₮ ₣ĨȒ€ Happy New  Year!  23:18, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pinks match and blur the shading. 23:24, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Either darken the shading a little or brighten the highlights a little. 00:08, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Brightened highlights, fixed earpink, and blurred shading. ℳĨ₰₮ ₣ĨȒ€ Happy New Year!  16:29, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) - For Approval


Either lighten the shading on the back or get rid of the highlight next to it by darkening it. Then blur thoroughly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sunspirit, are you still working on this?-- 07:22, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I will take over. -- 20:47, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Define the highlight on the flank. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 21:09, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the ear pink 00:06, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are a bit too bright. Maybe shade them a bit.<font color="Black"><font color="Black"> <font color="Orange">Wolfwhisker  <font color="Black">Trick <font color="Orange"> or <font color="Black"> Treat   01:02, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble, are you still working on this?-- 02:33, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think since Bramble has retired, someone will have to take over. Could I continue working on this, if someone else hasn't already taken it? 00:29, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Blackclaw, I have Tawnypelt (Alt.Ki) up for approval, and it's on CBA, and I planned to take over this because I've made all the changes for Plumwillow's apprentice image. You are free to take it, but...well, I worked really hard on the changes I made to her image, and I really wanted to take over it. There are a couple other images that need taking over as well, but if you would like to continue working on this, I don't mind. You asked first, after all. :) It's up to you. -- 01:17, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Since you have worked on this image before, I think you should take it instead. I'll just find something else to do. 21:26, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Blackclaw! :) It's a privilege to take over this image. I'll get to it and upload my version as soon as Tawnykit gets approved. -- 22:20, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Yay, Tawnykit's approved! I've uploaded my new version. :) Comments? -- 20:12, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur haunch highlights a little, otherwise it looks great :) ❋   Rainwhisper   ❋  21:16, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Rainy! :) -- 21:29, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink and make it more triangular, make the haunch highlight a bit bigger and blur it-- 02:23, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Hope that looks better! :) -- 20:24, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink more, blur the haunch highlight around the edges-- 23:02, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

You did a great job taking over the image! Blur the haunch highlight. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:48, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Aw, thank you, Sunny. ^_^ -- 21:22, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight. 01:14, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. =) -- 02:09, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more visible. 14:28, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look quite messy. I'd re-do them. 15:02, December 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well...re-do the bottom one at least. All you need to do with the top is brighten it. 15:28, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I brightened the top highlight. Moonflight, what do you mean by "messy"? Like, is it blurred too much, or too big, or simply out of place? It looks fine to me. Please tell me! :) -- 19:55, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlight on the head needs to be brightened just a little more, so it matches the haunch and shoulder highlights. It looks great though! 22:44, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Blackclaw. :) -- 03:03, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

The shoulder and haunch highlights are very bright. darken them. Mistfire Owl City! 16:26, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. =) -- 20:46, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

There's a spot on the haunch where the shading is lighter, try and fix that if you know where it is :) 21:14, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlights a bit more consistent. 22:44, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. :) -- 12:10, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight a little more, but otherwise it looks amazing :) 15:41, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Is that any better? :3 -- 03:04, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight, move it up, and make it bigger. Lighten the ear pink-- 19:03, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I'm not sure if it showed the changes... -- 19:33, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading at the haunch and lighten it. <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  12:19, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I apologize if there doesn't appear to be any change. :) If I blur it too much, then it will "cut away" at the highlight, and that makes me darken the highlights and brighten the highlights and darken...etc. I tried to blur it as little as possible, once again, I'm sorry if the changes don't seem to be there. ;) -- 17:56, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Center the highlights and blur them. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

You use Pixlr, I assume? What I would do is re-do them entirely. When you take the dodge tool, you can obviously change the brush. Chose a circle brush that sort of fades out at the edges. Then change the size to somewhere between 50 and 70 and dodge. It then only requires a little blurring. If you use Photoshop, go to Pixlr. From my expirience, Photoshop makes my Chararts turn out horrendous. If you use GIMP, I really have no idea what happend here. 0_o 01:14, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I do use Pixlr. What you say is intelligent and worth trying. :) I think redoing the highlights is crucial at this point. XD I'll get right on it. :) -- 13:05, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Mosspelt (Alt. Q) - For Approval
Comments? ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  18:20, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Excellent work! =) Blur the shading on the back, blur the ear pink a bit more and extend it higher to the tip of the ear, and make her a bit more golden-brown; refer to Brackenfur, for example, if you need help. She looks somewhere between cream and orange right now. -- 20:04, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  21:19, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 21:26, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I don't think it looks any better :/. ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  21:38, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the back a lot and make the highlights a little brighter, mostly on the face. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 21:43, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the earpink so it isn't such a bright colour. 21:54, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  22:14, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller. 00:18, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Darken the shading a bit and blur it. -- 00:20, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I had to redo the shading and highlights ❄Blizzardfur❄  Albino Beauty❄  00:45, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, and maybe make it a little less fushia. 03:27, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the back and belly look like stripes. Lighten and blur well. 09:20, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded There! It looks WAY better! ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  18:19, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back and on the tail. :) Also, blur the shading on the front paw. - 20:36, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :D B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  22:34, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, and change the eye colour; it's a little too aqua to be normal. 05:21, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot and darken the ear pink. -- 07:05, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:34, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more reddish. I don't see a light source in this; thicken the shading.-- 04:25, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better now? B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:14, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think you are trying to make the light source come from the left. Darken the shading in the areas I marked with red. Make the ear pink look similar to that colour.-- 21:09, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Night shine, can you give me the hex code for the earpink colour? I'm having a hard time trying to find something similar. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:09, December 6, 2010 (UTC)<-- Never mind that. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:21, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :)? B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:20, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more around the neck and belly. Blur thee ear pink a bit more-- 00:18, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Blur everything overall, it might be just me, but everything looks quote blotchy. 02:21, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, it was just my brain tricking me. :3 15:30, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  18:42, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks quite blotchy to me. Perhaps darkening it could fix it. 22:45, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading and highlights. It was blotchy because I edited it a lot :/ B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  23:34, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot. Center the ear pink. -- 02:27, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I carefully smudged the different blues in the eyes together for effect. This is NEVER gonna be approved .-. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  03:18, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose color a darker shade of gold. And Blizzardfur, be patient, some chararts take way longer--two months to be approved. 05:07, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a lot in the areas I designated in the redline above -- 05:16, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded This has better work... B  l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  16:15, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, mostly on the shoulder. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:21, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:36, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

It stills needs to be blurred a lot more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  23:48, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I would darken the shading first. Then blur it, like Rainwhisper said. 00:51, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink lighter, it looks sorta burnt orange right now; the colour Nightshine originally gave you was good. 05:15, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I was blurring for half an hour -.- (I HATE the blur tool). My head is telling me to withdraw this... <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 01:56, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

The back shading is slightly inconsistent. Make it more smooth. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened it then did it again. Maybe I won't withdraw this after all! <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:16, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading and make it much smoother. 20:40, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded O_o... <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:20, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, it looks the same. Be right back while I fix this. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:21, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind. It's fine. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:26, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Blur everything thoroughly. 01:55, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Did you want me to blur the lineart too? Just kidding ;) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:16, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the shading and darken the haunch highlight some-- 22:59, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Woooooooo, that REALLY helped... Blur tool makes things worse in my opinion. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 23:27, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

You should probably smudge it-- 23:38, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 00:17, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken to haunch highlight and make it not touch the line-art. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 08:57, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Does that look better? <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:34, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the belly shading more still and make it look more circular, not following the lines of her back, belly, and legs. 20:27, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 20:55, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and add one to the shoulder. 01:12, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wow, what an epic fail xD <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 15:36, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight and shading, darken the highlights, darken the neck shading.-- 07:31, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 15:50, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading, it looks sorta blotchy. Mistfire Owl City! 21:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:15, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is still really blotchy and is a little dark on her back. Add more shading on her tail too. 21:12, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 20 days since I have been working on this 0_0 <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 02:52, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken the highlights if you cannot blur them anymore. 05:01, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 19:39, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Move the belly highlight up, blur the shading throughly, make the ear pink smaller-- 17:36, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded In the file history, the latest uploader of the image is MarigoldPetalmarble. Sorry about that, that's my Toontown Wikia username (I forgot to log off of it and sign in to Moonleaf:)!) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:16, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Move the belly highlight up, blur all the shading a lot-- 18:19, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'm feeling that I have to give up and withdraw this. But it's not confirmed yet. <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 21:07, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the large highlight on her side and maybe dull it a tad so it doesn't stand out so much. Don't give up yet, you're nearly there! <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:12, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on her belly and chest and also get rid of the shading on the tip of her tail. 03:20, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 21:21, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Night shine, I was on vacation for a week and came back home pretty late. I'm gonna work on it right now. ♪Mari gold♪  18:01, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Crap, I'm on MarigoldPetalmarble. It's just me, Moonleaf. I'll go on Moonleaf:) ♪Mari  gold♪  18:02, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded :) <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ Luvs Leaf-bare!♥ 18:22, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlight on her belly. 00:28, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any much of a difference? <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ Luvs Leaf-bare!♥ 17:31, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Wetfoot (A) - For Approval
Okay, here he is. He's kinda bad right now, so comment fiercely! I shall improve him! 03:22, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten and define his stripes, so they look more like the warrior image's. 03:26, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit. I really like the stripes =) Lighten the shading, it's a little dark looking, but also thicken the shading-- 03:29, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

There is some blurred line-art on the chest. 03:31, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the eaar-pink BUT lighten it,and as Ice heart said ligthen the stripes then define them and fix the blurred on the chest other than that nice ^^ IMPROVE HIM FRECRELY THEN!!!!! Maplepool 03:53, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink doesn't need lightening. 05:08, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

At least blur the stripes; to me they look wispy, not like tabby stripes. I actually think the ear pink should be darkened a bit, only a bit mind you. And the shading looks like of ... pressed and flat for the want of better words. It doesn't give me a 3-D effect. Sorry if that's too unhelpful! 13:54, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Minor tweaks have been made. I didn't have time for everything. Will work on it later, but it's midnight here. Comments? 08:03, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded (again) Better? 01:49, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

The line art looks kind of blurred along the forearms. Thicken the shading-- 02:06, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Howzat? 23:16, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights, thicken and darken the shading, and define the stripes on the chest. 01:51, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Comments? 05:55, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Something about the tabby stripes looks a bit..odd..They look sort of smashed and around them, it's kind of blotchy. Maybe blur everything a lot, then define the stripes, especially on the belly and legs. :3 15:29, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Lol what do you mean, smashed? I think they look fine. 03:47, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, on the back and haunch it's fine. But the face stripes, the belly stripes, and the leg stripes..look. 'smashed'. XD Too blurred and smooshed together. 15:05, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading/brighten the highlights. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't been so quick to update him, but I assure you, I'm still here. I've just been really busy. Will work on him soon. 03:14, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes don't look the same as his other image's. They're too blurry. 22:17, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that really matters. I mean, look at Jayfeather's page. It's really different. But, It's up to you. Darken the earpink. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 09:02, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how Jayfeather's images are involved in this. They're supposed to be consistent. The stripes are too blurry, either way. 00:13, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think Sunspirit meant that Jayfeather's images are all very different. Every artist has their own style. However, you do have a point. If y'all make a consensus, I will redo this image to make it look more like the original one. Personally, I like my interpretation better, though. 06:05, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the face stripes a bit, thicken the tail stripes a bit. Darken the neck and belly shading-- 23:55, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should make him look more like his warrior picture. Consistency is important. 01:10, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well yeah, and I meant it doesn't matter if his look different because this sin't Jayfeather and what Jaufeather's images look like shouldn't even matter. And anyways, you should just change it for consistency because even if you do like yours better it doesn't look like the other one and why change that one when we change the one up for approval? 06:10, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, consistency is important. We don't need to fix images that don't need to be fixed in tweak week. 15:34, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

It might be just me, but the whole line-art seems to be blurred. Though that might just be the shading... 21:46, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Redoing image. 05:40, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 21:20, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm really really sorry, but I've been busy for so long and I just got back from a long trip to Victoria. My redone image is almost ready to be put up but it needs some more work. Please don't decline, as I am working on it, but I have had little time to do so. - -  Wildheart  W h a t i s r i g h t n o w ? 07:07, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderheart (Alt. KI) - For approval


My first charart! I spent a ton of time on it ^^". Cinderheart's alternate kit form -- she was described in Sunset as 'looking exactly like Cinderpelt (dark fluffy gray)' instead of gray tabby. Comments?  Maple   frost!   19:40, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. 20:57, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the nose; gray cats usually don't have pink noses, and rename it Cinderheart.kit.alt 21:03, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add some highlights to the tail. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  21:11, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Move the highlight to the chest and add highlights to the fronts of the legs. Mistfire Owl City! 21:39, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. What now? :)  Maple   frost!   00:05, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights a little more. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  00:06, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

* coughs* Rename it Cinderheart.kit.alt, please. 01:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

* Facepaw* Sorry... I was being an idiot xD. I named it Cinderheart.alt.kit... ugh... Sorry, I'll rename it when I re-upload it (in a few minutes when I finish editing)  Maple   frost!   01:53, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! (/Is very glad she re-read her post before clicking save page. That would've been an embarrassing typo.)  Maple   frost!   02:00, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

There is an extra period after alt. You just need to name it Cinderheart.kit.alt, it will add the .png to the end on its own. Sorry for the lack of image-related comments, I will once you name it correctly ^_^ 03:33, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Uggghhh xD sorry... you have permission to cyber-punch me. I know, I'm exasperating. It's part of my internet charm ^_^ (NOT). Okay... it's named right, now. I think... xD. Maple  frost!   05:20, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Change the nose color to a darker gray. 17:15, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading thoroughly. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  17:39, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Maple  frost!   19:32, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look... mismatched and blotchy. Can you try and fix that? ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:43, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks crooked. -- 20:44, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple  frost!   23:23, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading thoroughly. 23:26, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Are they too strong or something? I keep getting told to do that... they're as blurred as they possibly can be, so are they just too strong? Maple  frost!   23:34, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The nose is still a bit pink. And no, they're not too strong. You need to blur them, they're too blotchy. 04:01, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Should I make the nose completely black/very very dark gray? Or just darken the current pinkish-gray nose? Maple  frost!   05:05, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose colour a dark gray -- 00:12, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, I fixed the nose and splotchiness. It doesn't look splotchy anymore ^^", thank goodness. I'm sick of the Blur tool. xD  Maple   frost!   17:53, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks really blotchy to me. 21:24, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Me, too. There are scraps of shading and highlights everywhere, and looks a bit disorganized. Also, blur the tail shading a tad. -- 21:26, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is that better? Maple  frost!   21:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Now it looks how it did before XD Blur it mostly on the chest area, but on the legs and the tail too. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  22:07, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Would you want some help with the blotchiness? 04:41, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

-Sigh-... Whenever there's blotchiness, there's something I like to do called... REDOING THE SHADING AND HIGHLIGHTS. I just fill 'em in again and redo the shading and highlights and hope it works. B l  i  zz  a  r  d  f  u  r  White Cats  Rule Leaf-bare!  04:03, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

If they redo the shading and highlights, it may make it more blotchy, with the Pixlr blurring. 05:05, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

The earpinks should be a bit more consistent. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

I completely restarted--been working on this nonstop. :D I think I got it fixed. Comments? *Crosses fingers* Oh, and please give me little details, too--like, say, the eyes are a bit to greeny-blue, etc. Don't be afraid to point something like that out--I want you to. I'm trying to become a great Charart member :).  Maple   frost!   06:28, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Much better, Maplefrost. :] Make the nose lighter and blur the ear-pink more. 01:53, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll go work on it now :). P.S.--Has nothing to do with this, but... can ANYONE tell me what happened to Bramble and why Oblivion's now leader? It's like one day I logged on and Bramble was listed as leader, then suddenly Oblivion... and I can't find anything about it. I checked PCA news, tried the (confusing) forums, and even poked around on Bramble's profile... nothing. On his/her (I think last I read Bramble's a her xD) profile it still says 'I'm the leader of Project Charart, yada yada yada".  Maple   frost!   03:45, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Read the discussion on "New Leadership" in the discussion area. :3 03:50, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I read it :) congratz on being new Dep. Humm... does that look any better? Note: For some odd reason every time I clicked 'overwrite existing photo with yours' ('cause I have to name it Cinderheart.kit.alt), it would say 'success!' and I'd click 'return to editing', yet it would look exactly the same... I tried to get it to work about ten times, to no avail. So now I'm just crossing my fingers that it'll show the 'right' new one.  Maple   frost!   04:25, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken the shading-- 22:58, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten highlights. This is quite good =3 ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 09:30, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Great job, Maplefrost. 8) The ear pink should be even on both ears. :) -- 21:13, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded! Is that better? I think the ear pink's a bit too faint now... am I right? Comments? ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  22:00, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you're right XD so brighten it up a little. 03:30, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

xD Is that better? (Reuploaded) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  17:06, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Whoa! Nice sig, Maplefrost. This is really good, just make the nose a lighter gray. Mistfire Owl City! 17:13, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and thanks! :) Thanks also for giving me the link to Oblivion's Sig tutorial, back when I was a WWiki noooob... Heh, I'll go change the nose color now. :) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  17:44, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

How's that? (Reuploaded) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  04:03, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

There's a single circle of highlights on her chest. Blur and smooth it out. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 15:27, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and brighten the highlights, and I can hardly see the ear pink. 19:07, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dodge the face a tad more. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Working on it! Just making sure you don't think I've abandoned it ;) ℳąφℓ₠  ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  19:32, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Brightheart Alt. Apprentice~For Approval
Not thrilled about this one. I think I'm gonna make her scars bigger. Comments for improvement? <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 20:15, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

The entire side of her face was torn out; you're right about making those scars bigger. 20:21, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Rename the image Brightheart.apprentice.alt. 20:25, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more shading to the tail. ❋  Rainwhisper   ❋  20:32, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

There's quite a bit of spots where the lineart is blurred, particularly her whiskers and the middle of her forearms. Also, I took a quick look at her other chararts, and the tail isn't completely orange; there's a bit of white at one end. -- 20:42, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Make sure the ginger patches are in the same spot as they are on her other apprentice image. -- 21:17, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I also blurred the highlight on her shoulder. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 21:21, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

There's still a ton of blurred lineart, on her tail, arms, face... 21:31, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Did you see my above comment?-- 21:57, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Okay, I basically redid the whole charart. Nightshine, yes I got you comment, but it didn't show up until I had posted the edited charart. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:10, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

For the ear-pink, shrink it a tad. The ear is torn, yes, however, the ear-pink size shouldn't enlarge. And the patches should still be in the same spot as the others. 04:00, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Moved the patches around a bit and made the ear-pink smaller. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 01:33, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be way smaller still; it shouldn't be touching the lineart at all. 01:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 02:14, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. The earpink can't be touching the lineart on the sides, not just the end. On yours, it seems to take up her whole ear. 19:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. That look better? <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 02:42, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Now it's not even there.... look at her apprentice image, and use that earpink, just with a ripped ear. 22:03, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patch on her tail and the front leg farthest away from us. Otherwise, very nice! <font color="Red" >Merry Christmas! <font color="Green" >o3o 22:17, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Sorry it took so long, I had an english paper to write. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 01:52, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Um...sorry if I sound daft, but I can't see any scars.... Apart from that, I'd just blur the patches a tad. Clarrissa  My Talk Page  18:33, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

This may be my computer screen working up, but I can't see much shading, if any at all. If it isn't just me, use the blur tool to darken and/or add it. 20:50, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Add a ginger spot to the leg 23:12, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

The line-art on the back leg is blurred, I think the patches are blurred enough. 23:16, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't it say that it took, like, all her ear off? Make the ear smaller. <font color="Orange">Wolfwhisker <font color="Black">Trick <font color="Orange"> or <font color="Black"> Treat   23:26, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Darkened the shading and made the ear smaller. Icy, I didn't add a spot to her leg since there isn't one in her first apprentice charart and I'm not sure which leg you're referring to. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 00:33, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate the patches, darken the ear pink, make sure there is no blurred line art, make the patches more like the ones on her apprentice image-- 02:22, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Desaturated the orange patches, darkened the ear pink, and made her scar a bit smaller. Should I add in some darker, claw marks on her face? <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 22:56, December 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you need to, there aren't any on her queen image. Blur the patches on the forearms and tail, darken the shading, -- 00:50, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Start the orange closer to the base of the tail. 05:11, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Darkened the shading, blurred her patches, and move the orange on her tail. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 15:20, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm...maybe add a deeper red to the center of the scar to give it some more emphasis. The pink that rings around the outside is just the flesh, but the red on the inside will definately show that it's a life changing wound. Just experimenting, you could give it a try if you wanna. 20:27, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the white areas-- 20:30, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Darkened the shading on the white ares. Moonwillow, I did try your advice, I'm not sure I did it very well/like it, but I tried. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 21:02, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

I can scarcely see any actual scars. Try adding some/making them more prominent. 08:35, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Added some scars around her eye. Scarletwind 03:21, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

The scars sort of look unnatural. Try making them more curvy and less blotchy. 01:51, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Changed around her scars, but I'm not sure if I like this look, but if other do, I'm not gonna complain. Oh yeah, just a heads up that I'm going to camp from the 28th to the 1st, I think this'll be alright to sit til when I get back, unless it's approved by then, but if anyone feels otherwise, let me know. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:58, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest making the scars more sharp. That might give out more of a feeling that it is natural. Make the small amout of ear pink look more natural. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 09:32, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:58, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading around the neck.-- 04:00, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:19, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken/add shading on the white areas-- 23:53, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I don't think the shading is this dark on her other apprentice charart.... <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:32, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Try making the patches more in her warrior image's area. 15:33, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Now I'm kinda confused. I've been told to make her patches like her apprentice charart and now I'm told to make them like her warrior charart. Which one should I make her look like? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:59, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make them look like the ones on her apprentice images since this too is using an apprentice blank-- 07:30, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

There's a line kinda connecting the two patches on the back, sort of like you smudged one into the other. 13:16, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 14:14, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval?-- 19:10, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

The patches look messily blurred/smudged as do the scars, and her markings are wrong. Look at the warrior image and change them. 05:19, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:55, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

You didn't change the markings. Go look at her warrior image. 02:12, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

I was told to keep them like her apprentice charart. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 02:15, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. Repeating 24 hours- 02:48, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

The scars look a bit unnatural. They look like..stars. XD The shading is also a bit messy on the legs and haunch. 04:59, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 05:20, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

More of her images have the markings like the ones her warrior image, only her apprentice charart has the ones like these, so you should probably just change these and we would only have to tweak her apprentice image at tweak week then. It would make more sense that way. 19:05, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

I actually think that it looks fine. Since, this is Brightheart from a different view and none of her chararts give a full view of her back, I think this looks fine. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:03, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

if you actually bothered to properly observe her other chararts you would see that's not the case, here she is shown with a ginger chest and paw, which her other images do not have. 22:45, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

We can tweak the images in the next tweak week, for now this is fine. Repeating 24 hours-- 02:21, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

That makes no sense! Why would we leave this, which is up for approval where it can be changed if needed, and later tweak more than one image and waste time we could save if we just changed this? She has only one image with this marking style so if we changed this we would have less to tweak. 21:39, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Just change it at this moment, and also, there is blurred line-art on the eye. 21:44, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I basically made a second charart with different markings. I left a mark on her chest, because she had on in her kit charart that didn't stretch all the way to the other side of her chest, so it wouldn't be seen in her warrior charart. Comments? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 22:49, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks good, maybe just lighten the patches on the new one a bit. 01:03, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:35, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Are you keeping the one on the right? Or the one on the left? -- 17:31, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

I was going to wait and see what Oblivion thought, but it seems Frostheart and Dovesong are in favor of the right. What do you think? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 17:55, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I didn't see this :) I like the shading and the markings on the left one, but the scars on the right. I know I'm being difficult, but perhaps combine the two? 19:51, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

So, just move the scars onto the left one? And the patches will be tweaked or kept the way they are? Either way, I can do that. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 19:53, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded the left one. <--- Is that what you mean, Oblivion? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:02, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Guys. I already told you all why we should keep the patches on the other one, it saves time and makes thing way easier, it doesn't matter which one you think looks better. 20:08, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

This is getting really annoying with opinions going back and forth. Which is it? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:11, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the newer one, it makes more sense because then we have less images to tweak. If we use the other one we're only creating more work. 20:24, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean, Mosspool? If the patches are different, Scarletwind can just change them to the way they are on her apprentice image. 20:33, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

The marking style you said looked better is only on one of her other images: her apprentice image. Her other three have the marking style of the right image. So if we use the one on the left's markings, we have three images to tweak: her queen, warrior and kit. If we use the one on the right's markings, we have on image to tweak: her apprentice image. So if we use the one on the right we're saving time. 04:15, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so what do you want me to improve on now? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:04, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay! I think it looks good, except it seems a bit weird how her scars have two long, umm, things sticking out of them, if you know what I mean xD 04:28, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Those were the deeper claw marks from the dog fight, I wasn't sure if I should put them in, but without them, it just looks like a weird pink patch around her eye. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 14:08, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that makes sense, actually. It just seems a little. . . funny looking. I dunno. . maybe add another big long streak like that or something? 70.64.149.241 20:15, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Where? I'm not sure if I can fit another scar without making it look really messy, but I'll give it a go. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:18, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Shortened the scars a tad. I'm not sure if I should make a third streak or a slash over her muzzle or anything. Comments? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:27, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading. Which one are you keeping?-- 18:57, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm keeping the right one. Deleted the left one. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:52, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading a lot. Make it also a bit thin. <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  12:27, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 15:14, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading. 16:25, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 16:49, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just a heads up, I'm leaving for camp tomorrow and I'll be back late Saturday, so I won't be able to work on this until then, since this isn't a full week, I don't think this'll be declined. Just wanted to give you a heads up. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:00, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm still a bit confused what the consensus is for the patches. It looks like this pattern is staying. If it is, all you need to do is drop the two in the name. If that's not the case, read on.

You should have these two side by side like this. I've had Charart making expirience on Pixlr, Photoshop Elements 7.0, and GIMP. On all three programs, you can put the Chararts side by side to each other. I highly recommend you use this method so that the Chararts look more or less identical. This is, of course, disregarding the scars on the former. So basically, what needs fixing, is: I made this longer than neccissary. 0_o I just hope this helps you understand what exactly is the issue with the patches. The shading, highlights, etc. all look acceptable. Just do all these, and this should be approved in no time. :) If it's already all set, than I may be giving myself Carpal Tunnel Syndrome by typing this. O_o 00:53, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the pattern of patches on the alternate apprentice match the original.
 * User the sponge tool or some other method to make the colors of the patches match. If you got the color from another one of her imagers, however, don't worry about this one.
 * Rename your image "File:Brightheart.apprentice.alt.png." In other words, drop the two. :)

The patches are fine. The o nly problem is that there needs to be another one near the beginning of the chest. All the other images match the patches here; the apprentice image right now just needs to be tweaked. 05:20, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Just got home; so you want one more patch towards the top of her chest, Frostheart? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:20, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Tumblekit (Alt. Ki) ~ For Approval
Here he...er...she is! My first charart. I wasn't sure if I named the file correctly, but just tell me if i didn't, so.....comments? 19:30, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Rename it Tumblekit.kit.alt. There is a white pixel on the top of her head, fill that in, and blur the shading. 19:34, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: I fixed the head dot thingy majigger, and i blurred the shading as much as i could. 19:42, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the ear pink. 19:44, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Make the blur pink even. Also, the shading and highlights look out of place; try to fix them. -- 19:57, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: Done, Done, and sorta done. I tried to fix the shading and highlights, but I'm not sure if they're....good or not...but i did my best to fist the earpink. 20:24, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the nose colour. This looks great!-- 20:26, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks much better. :) The highlights on the shoulder...maybe fix them? The highlights should be on the chest. :) -- 20:29, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: I fixed the nose pink and did my best to blur the highlights on the shoulder. I also added the highlights on the chest....I stand accomplished. 20:33, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit on the right side of the chest highlight. Maybe add a small highlight to the tail-- 20:40, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading down by his paws, I can't see the lineart--either that or my eyesight is dying... <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan

Nah, your eyesight still lives, Scarletwind. :) Lighten the paws and also lighten the face; I can't see the mouth. -- 23:30, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Erm she looks Crossed-eyed Snowbreeze 01:36, December 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Good job, lighten the shading. 21:33, December 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Updated: Fixed. Comments? Sorry, I won't be on AS much....so this wasn't updated in a while. 00:07, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think this looks great. Comments before approval?-- 02:19, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a ton. 15:30, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlights look fine. Repeating 24 hours-- 22:57, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but they look just splattered on the chest to me. Darken the shading in that area and blur the highlights. 23:02, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

I completely agree with Frostheart. The highlights look a tad bit messy. I mean, I'm not a warrior, but I think she could move some highlights. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 09:36, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: I did my best to blur the highlights....but they didn't come out so good.....I'm really happy that i got the comments before approval! (even if it didn't count)... 16:55, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

This looks ready to me. Comments before approval?-- 17:02, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there's a lighter highlight on top of the hight on his chest. Smooth it out. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 18:30, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading where the highlight is; it's just a blob pretty much. 22:55, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights and shading look really messy and blotchy, I would just suggest looking at some tutorials and redoing them. 01:02, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: I just redid the whole shading and looke at all the tutorials like 7 times. (I have way too much free time). So.....howdya like it?\

It looks a million times better. . . make the nose black and darken the ear pink, also, the ear pink are different sizes so try and even them out. 02:20, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: Just redid the ear pink with a better satisfying color in my opinion. The nose looked weird as just black, so i just darkened it. 22:50, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Repeating 24 hours-- 02:16, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is a bit too large and blurry now and no, make the nose black, because black cats have black noses. 03:00, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Updated: Black nose. smaller and not as much blurred ear pink. xmas in a few days. 23:32, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit, lighten the highlights-- 17:55, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

He's too dark. ℳerry spirit 22:18, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think the nose should be more gray. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit more. 14:45, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 21:19, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but i have absolutely no time to work I have been very busy lately. I think I might just withdraw this and just stick to helping the articles through its text issues...not image. 16:45, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Feathertail (alt. W) ~ For Approval
Fingers crossed this one has no reason to be declined :) Comments? 04:35, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but this has to be declined. Oblivion told me that being flecked and a tabby were not nearly the same thing, so this shall be declined. 05:01, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Flecked and tabby are way different! Where's the logic in that? 05:32, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, that was rude. I apologize. But truly, I believe flecked and tabby cats are tonnes different. 05:40, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Iceheart, I'll let you keep this because I feel bad for declining your other images :) Blur the markings a lot. 11:59, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Mkay. :) Also add more markkngs, and darken the shading on the legs. 15:26, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Get rid of the white pixel on the chest, darken the ear pink, lighten the tip of the tail-- 22:55, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and, as Nightshine said, darken th ear pink. Maybe take it off Feathertail's ear pink? ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 09:42, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Did everything but add more flecks. I tried, and i just made it look crowded/mottled and icky. And it's really just a difference in opinion. 00:36, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the far paws a lot so they're darker than the rest of the pelt, blur the tip of the tail a bit, darken the markings some-- 03:24, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 22:21, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading, add a few smaller specks to the haunch-- 23:51, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 01:09, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading and the shading around the belly. Desaturate the ear pink-- 07:27, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks odd; the blurring at the bottom is only used for leaders, when the earpink fills up the entire ear. Smooth out the bottom of it. 18:41, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- -- 19:21, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular and a softer color. Mistfire Owl City! 21:56, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean softer? I'm pretty happy with the colour personally. 18:02, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think she means a slightly lighter shade of pink. 02:47, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Still, I think the ear pink is fine. 03:54, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

The colour is fine but it also seems to come out of the ear a tiny bit, mayne shorten it some. And no offense, but the shading pretty much just looks like a gradient from light to dark. 19:02, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- ya I'm not a fan of the front to back shading, but I'm not willing to redo the image just yet. Fixed the ear. 19:32, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the belly and neck shading.-- 02:18, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded~ 03:39, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the neck and belly shading more-- 17:33, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded~ 18:54, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

There is blurred line-art on the haunch, the chest hairs, and the back. 16:26, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the neck and belly shading still-- 17:15, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Why does the shading need to be so dark? I can barely see her feet. 19:52, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded~ It wasn't blurred line-art, just poorly placed and blurred flecks, but i tidied them up. I'm with Oblivion, I'd rather not darken the shading anymore. 21:24, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

When I said darken the neck and belly shading, I meant in these areas marked in red. Can you still darken the shading there? Darken the ear pink a bit-- 17:52, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I am never doing shading from the back again. 23:07, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the head shading, it looks like there is a line of darker gray on the bottom half of the muzzle-- 18:54, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 04:48, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me, or do the flecks look too large for fle''cks? Other than that, lighten the shading just a tad. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)'

Re-uploaded-The fleck size is fine. Look at Ashfur (TC)'s (thats not a very good comparison but oh well).

This looks great. CBA?-- 21:19, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I can hardly see the ear pink, and it's too blurry. Also, highlights would make this look a lot better, even though you don't have to. 21:34, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I didn't add highlights because they wouldnt make it look a lot better, it would just make the back unusaully bright. 22:25, December 30, 2010 (UTC).

The splothces on the chest hairs make the line-art look blurred. 22:33, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 23:03, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Now the chest area..looks empty. XD Maybe add two small spots, not touching the line-art. 17:50, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and there is one misplaced line-art pixel near the tip of the tail. 17:51, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded- I couldnt find anything wrong with the tail. 21:44, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Oh oops. I meant the connection of the tail and leg area--where the very end of the belly should be. 01:09, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

I still cant find it. 20:46, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sunstar (Alt. L) ~ For Approval
- My First charart in awhile. Haven't seen me around much, have you? ;) I'm pretty proud of this one. I need to blur the ear-pink, I think... By the way... This is my first leader! ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 05:54, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Desaturate it a bit, make the ear pink fill up the whole area and blur it. Brighten the highlights some and blur the shading around the neck-- 06:02, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I'm worried about the highlights... are they too... unnatural? ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 06:30, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Blur the highlights a bit, and/or make them bigger. Also, the ear pink looks very non-existent. Take the ear pink color from Sunstar's alternate deputy image. 06:47, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks Nightflower =) It's nice to get a compliment once in awhile =3. The highlights in this picture are really bugging me -_- ޓ  S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 10:06, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable and blur the strip of shading on the leg that is second closest to us. 15:27, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his right foreleg. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 22:03, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Darkened ear pink and blurred strip. II'll get on to blurring the right-foreleg shading. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 22:22, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink more, get rid of the white pixel on the ear tip, make the highlights on the chest and haunch bigger-- 22:53, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I made 2. I don't see much difference, between the pelt color. ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 03:57, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

I like the right one, but make the ear pink more noticeable and blur the highlights on the tail. 21:03, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

I agree the right one is better. Darken the ear pink, darken the nose colour a bit, darken the haunch highlight a bit and blur it, darken the shading-- 22:12, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

The right one. Make the background completely transparent. 22:13, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - Right one. Mosswhisker &amp; Stealthfire Want to chat? 21:20, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... Maybe desaturate the whole image and make the highlights less bright. Mistfire Owl City! 21:59, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined- 17:49, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

You know what, this won't give me any NW spoilers and I've got nothing else to do, so I'll work on this if it's gonna be declined. 00:13, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dovesong, you can take over now if you'd like. Just add it to the reservations table-- 21:18, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Okay! Will get on fixing this up ASAP :3 21:31, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Cora (W)- For Approval
My third Charart :) Comments? 22:09, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yay! First comment. Lighten highlights and earpink and blur the neck shading. Well done! ޓ S u n  s p ir it  ޓ  Santa Paws is coming to town! |undefined 22:13, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the ear-pink. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:04, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, Raineh. ;) Could you make the front and back paws a tad lighter? It's so dark I can't see the line art right now. Good work! -- 21:12, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

This looks awesome! Move the shoulder highlight down a tad, and maybe bright the highlights a bit. I don't know if it'll look better with brighter highlights but I think you should try it out. Just a little brighter. 21:48, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink. It looks almost black. Beautiful Charart! <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  11:58, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 16:09, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights so they blend in with the pelt. 18:41, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 00:42, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are really blotchy. Mistfire Owl City! 16:21, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I re-did all of the shading and highlights, so how does it look now? 00:14, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink, brighten the highlights, -- 00:20, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 01:15, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink, brighten the highlights, and make the highlights bigger-- 02:15, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 02:40, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the highlight bigger still and move the shoulder highlight up a bit, move the ear pink up -- 17:32, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 02:35, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Tone down the highlights a tad. They look a tad unnatural, maybe try to make it look like the light is flowing off of her by trying to copy the curve of the lineart on her shoulder. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 05:18, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 15:35, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights, I can hardly see them. Brighten the ear pink as well, -- 15:45, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 16:15, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a ton and blur the ear-pink. 16:40, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur/darken highlights and make the earpink more mauve-y. ℳerry spirit 16:46, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole image, brighten the highlights, brighten the ear pink. Add a highlight to the tail and face-- 17:15, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 17:48, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights, brighten the ear pink, blur the highlights-- 17:47, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 21:37, December 25, 2010 (UTC)'''

Lighten the whole thing, make the haunch highlight bigger and make all of the highlights a bit brighter, lighten the ear pink, -- 18:53, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I basically redid all of the shading and highlights. 00:22, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred just a tad, as it looks a little blotchy now. The rest of the image looks great, though! 15:14, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 17:39, December 27, 2010 (UTC)'''

I think the torn ear should be more uneven. Right now, it looks very...precise. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 14:39, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights massively. 00:55, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:49, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnstripe (Q) - For Approval
Comments?-- 23:32, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a bit more. 23:55, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes on the back and make them thinner. 23:57, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Where exactly? There are stripes on the back -- 00:16, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I know there are stripes on the back. Add more. Make them a tad bit more noticeable too. 02:18, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded lightened some of the back stripes-- 03:06, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the tail. 18:18, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred tail shading-- 07:25, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the back leg beneath the flank. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 14:40, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened shading. I hope that's the area where you meant.-- 15:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Where is the light source coming from, if there is one? 16:42, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

The left-- 20:24, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong. Good job. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 05:20, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

It seems on the back that the highlights are coming from the top, could you fix that? 16:24, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded it looked fine to me but I changed it a bit anyway-- 17:13, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

It looks sort of yellowish to me. ℳerry spirit 16:43, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

I took the colours from her warrior image. She is a creamy golden tabby after all-- 04:50, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the stripes on the tail. 19:15, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are supposed to be lighter than the pelt colour, unless you meant lighten the stripes-- 19:26, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with them. I think they should stay the way they are. 16:14, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

This is ''stunning. ''The only thing I can really see is to darken the shading. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened shading-- 20:08, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks too dark in some places, and on the belly it's. . . lumpy. 23:21, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded fixed shading-- 18:23, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the belly and arm shading. 21:25, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded blurred shading-- 21:36, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good. :) I don't see anything wrong at the moment. ~Lazy Mumble785 didn't log in. 02:16, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Berrynose (alt. kit) - For Approval
Berrykit without his tail. Comments? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  11:41, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the tail look more natural-perhaps make the cuts less straight. 15:28, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger, and darken the shading on the left side (our left). 18:09, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pinkish. Look at Berrynose's chararts for reference. Anyways, nice job! <span style="color:aquamarine;font-family:Papyrus;background:thistle;border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;color:#420094">♥Moonleaf☽ LuvsLeaf-bare!♥ 18:27, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

On his warrior charart the tail isn't all zig-zaggy, and it looks a little odd that way anyway. Looks nice, though! ;) 23:56, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading between the front legs. 00:26, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The tail looks a bit funny XD <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  12:15, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Try to copy the tail design from his apprentice image. 15:51, December 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. It looks fine. 15:55, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

There is some gray spots outside of his tail, erase those. 18:43, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the tail a little fluffier looking. Right now it's just a stub-- 19:09, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'd add a small pink scar at the tip of his tail, as his wound would've been pretty recent. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 03:08, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The tail doesn't look funny. It looks better. I'm so happy =D <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  15:17, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading below the chin; on the neck. 21:07, December 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * That area of shading isn't required. 23:39, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it matters that it's not required, it would look good and is easy to add, it's not like asking to add in highlights or anything. 05:21, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Comments? <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  12:08, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading under the neck and darken it a bit.-- 16:03, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (Alt. Apprentice) - For Approval
Oh, meow. Cinderpelt, with a deformed leg, as an apprentice. I tried my new style with shading, then blurred it. Honestly it's better than before. The earpink didn't work so well for me. Comments? 00:45, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and straighten it out a little (if that makes sense) and blur the haunch highlight. 01:47, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur all the highlights. 01:54, December 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded: Straightened the ear pink; blurred, and blurred the highlights as well. Constructments? 01:56, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

It needs to be long-haired. 04:45, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. 03:15, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- 18:47, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

It has been a week since Icestorm has reuploaded this. May I take over? 01:41, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Wait a few more days-- 15:53, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Icestorm's computer broke. She might not be back for about 10 more days. 16:38, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, do I have permission to take over? Is it possible you could ask her? Or, shall we wait? 16:42, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

We should wait. 20:52, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sootfur (Alt. W) - For Approval
I honestly hate this one. XD But since I'm getting bored of trying to fix it, I just decided to post it so I can receive some comments for motivation. o3o 03:23, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing some, desaturate the ear pink, darken shading, brighten/add some highlights-- 03:27, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded~I think the ear-pink colour is fine. Not sure if the changes are showing. 03:35, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

No the changes aren't showing up. To add to my other comments, make the ear pink a bit smaller-- 03:40, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the entire image, I can hardly see the lineart. 01:14, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 02:59, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten/add highlights on the shoulder and haunch, and blur the shading. 03:03, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing again-- 14:42, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I decided the add texture. 18:08, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'mma let you guys choose which one is better. 18:27, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

The right one looks a lot better. Just blur the shading some more and brighten the highlights. Blur the ear pink some more as well-- 18:34, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

The one on the right is definately better. 18:35, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I like the right one. 03:13, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

The right one. Blur the shading on his shoulder a lot. 16:35, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 16:41, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights and blur the ear pink a bit-- 17:43, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Some of the shading from the right, back paw bled into his left foreleg, blur that out a tad. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 00:28, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I redid the image..again. :3 04:04, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like theres blurred lineart or shading around most of the outside of the image. I might just be my computer, or I'm going crazy, but if not you really outta get rid of it. 174.7.99.84 07:39, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 16:42, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing, brighten the highlights, make the ear pink smaller-- 18:47, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:31, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

There are black speckles at the background. Fix this. <font color="DarkRed" style="background:white">Bloodangel Starshine  12:33, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink smaller and blur it-- 15:52, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I already checked the background thing, and I can't find it. 18:01, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

I still see the blurred line-art. It's at the base of the tail, the front paws and the muzzle. 21:49, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

There's also blurred/smudged lineart at the tip of the ear, the shoulder below the ear, and the tail tip. Also darken the ear pink a tad. 00:57, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks for pointing out the spots. My eyesight is bad. XD 19:06, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Just lighten the whole thing a bit more and it will be ready-- 21:16, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 16:45, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Minnowtail (A) - For Approval
Here's Minnowtail as an apprentice! I'm not too proud of this one, and I had some trouble making the fluffy fur texture. Comments? 04:41, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, brighten the highlights and lighten the ear-pink. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:47, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller. 04:50, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 07:59, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Minnowtail already has an apprentice image, unless this is for an alternate. If it is, rename this Minnowtail.apprentice.alt.png.-- 20:29, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if it is her alternate, Gingertail already has it reserved. 21:30, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't the one on Minnowtail's page for an alternate? It's gray and white, like it says in the Trivia. 21:58, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, this one would be the original. I'll go change her character pixels. And Nightflower, rename it Minnowtail.apprentice.PNG, not GIF. 22:02, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oh alright, well then the haunch highlight is kinda blotchy ;) 22:10, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:30, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Define the ear pink, darken the shading and blur the highlights-- 14:43, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Um, I think we need to change the gray-and-white apprentice to be Minnowtail.apprentice.alt, because now it's not letting me upload my new version without overwriting the others. 04:31, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

It has already been changed, just overwrite the previous file and it should be fine-- 04:38, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks Nightshine! 05:04, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing a bit so it's the same shade as her warrior image. The line art around the ears needs to be fixed. Darken the tail shading and blur the haunch highlight-- 17:36, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - 07:06, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights a bit more-- 15:51, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a tad. - 16:15, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  23:24, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - For Approval
22:55, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Dull the ear-pink and darken the shading a tad. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 23:15, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. 23:22, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the stripes, maybe change the color so they are like his alternate apprentice image. Darken the ear pink a lot. Brighten the highlights and make the shoulder and haunch ones bigger-- 23:44, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 01:13, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Move the shoulder highlight up a bit and make the stripes on his face more noticeable. 01:14, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink smaller,but when was he seen as an golden tabby warrior? 71.164.203.114 01:45, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading. 21:38, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and define the stripes. Darken the ear pink/make it like the ear pink on his alternate apprentice image. Make the haunch highlight bigger and blur it- 02:14, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 01:33, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the shoulder highlight, darken the ear pink, darken the belly and neck shading-- 03:05, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes are very. . . orange. . . now. I think you should make them more goldeny. Also, brighten and blur the highlights, and add stripes to the far legs. 04:20, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 16:26, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on the legs farthest from us and the ear behind us. Blur the shoulder highlight. 16:42, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 16:45, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading. There are some dark brown areas that should be blurred/taken away. Desaturate the ear pink and darken it, darken the stripes-- 17:34, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

The shading does not need to be darkened, but it does need to be blurred. The stripes are fine, too. 19:51, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

smooth the shading on the back flank and behind the ear and at the base of the tail. <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 20:14, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

The shading does need to be darkened; around the base of the tail, the neck, the belly, and at the back of the haunch- 20:20, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think the orange tabby stripes look a bit weird against his golden pelt. They show out a lot. Or is it just me? Nightfern Merry Christmas 02:48, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightfern, I think the colours should look more like the ones from his alternate apprentice image since that is also a golden tabby-- 18:49, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Try taking the tabby stripe color from his alternate apprentice image. Also, there is a dark spot on the back of his neck. 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (Ki) - For Approval
Creekfeather as a kit 21:55, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing, lighten the ear pink, darken the stripes-- 22:02, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes and smudge them. 22:27, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened whole image, lightened earpink, darkened stripes, and smudged them more. 23:00, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the stripes more; make them look feathery. It kind of looks like he is flecked. 23:33, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Smudged them even more...... I think I need to smudge them all around, not just going with the fur, to make them look more feathery..... 02:05, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and darken it a tad. Also, maybe try smudging the stripes with the size 1 brush and just run it back and forth through the tabby mark. If my charart was approved I was going to do Creekkit and that's what I did. (I made his image because I was bored XD) If that doesn't make sense then just leave it be :) 02:22, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm trying my best..... I'm also starting to despise the smudge tool..... ;) 03:53, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the spots more stripe-ish. :) 11:23, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Tried to make them more stripe-like :S 14:27, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little bigger. 14:41, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Enlarged earpink. 01:48, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too fuschia, and the stripes don`t look like stripes. Make them a lot thinner. 22:46, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I Fixed the earpink, although I'm not too sure about the stripes. They aren't very stripe-like on his warrior image, and I want a few more user's opinion on that. No offense. 00:47, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think they should look a little sharper and a little less thick. Maybe even get rid of a few of the stripes. 01:22, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes should be in a triangle shape and then smudged heavily. 01:09, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. It looked so good and strip-y, until I smudged it.... :( 16:24, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

==Berrynose (Alt. A) - Declined Edit== Comments

First, I moved this to the correct section. Second, I believe this will be declined, since Shaf has Berrynose's alternate apprentice on the reserve table. 11:38, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

She's right. Declining. 16:06, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Please comment heavily on this one....!!!

Firestar doesn't require a kit image, because he's never seen as one. This will have to be declined. 16:38, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sky (L) - Declined
-Crystalstar999

This willl have to be declined. Sky's description and gender are unknown. 14:49, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm moving this to the right section as well-- 18:08, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blackstar (Alt. L) - For Approval
This is my first leader as well as the first PCA charart I made with GIMP. I'm not sure about the highlights. What do you guys think? 00:07, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur/smugg the ear pink, and lighten the whole image. 00:19, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights a little and blur them. 00:38, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Moonflight, when you use the blur tool, turn the rate up to 100. Not sure if you knew that. But anyways, lighten the entire image and make the nose colour darker. 01:06, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the image, and brighten the highlights. Also, when you make a black cat, make sure you fill it in with a very dark grey, instead of solid black. Also, darken the shading. I love the way you did the ear pink, by the way! 01:22, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

It looks as if you've colored his pelt with solid black, because I can't see the lineart. My suggestion is to redo the image, using a dark gray for the pelt like Nightflower said. You can try lightening it, though. 03:09, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I didn't use black, but it was close. I redid it and completely did away with the highlights. 03:17, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Much better! Blur and thicken the shading. 04:13, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Blur highlights and shading. ℳĨ₰₮ ₣ĨȒ€ Happy New Year!  16:35, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Forum Question
Please go here to comment - your input is much appreciated right now. -- 21:26, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

New Forum Topic
Please go here; I'd really like to see your input on this topic. 17:54, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hi im just putting this up for approval!

Iv only been in Project Char-art for nearly six hours and iv been practicing so hard on my tabbies! Next im going to try a Tortie

Not as good as the current firestar, but maby it is!

Feathermoon, first of all, Firestar already has a leader image; he doesn't need another one. Next, there is a reason that the heading of this section is "Other Discussion". You put chararts for approval in the proper section. I'm glad that you've been practicing your charart skills, but this is not the place to post them. Thanks, -- 22:55, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Also, Feathermoon, if you want to do a charart, I would suggest looking here for cats who don't have one. Although there are no available chararts to do at the moment, there will be more soon. 00:34, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

New Rule
Hey everyone. :) I just wanted to inform you guys about a new rule which states that users shouldn't welcome any new users in until a lead has added them to the table. Oblivion and I have agreed that new users would not feel welcomed until they are welcomed by someone who they feel is in power, and in some cases, they will even become more impatient in waiting. I have added this in the guidelines. 22:52, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

What?
((Sorry about taking all the content off the page... I tried to ask this earlier but I guess it glitched))

Er, some member name Bluejaysong added themself to PCA then reserved 'Cinderheart alt kit', who is already and has been reserve by me... do they get a 24 hour ban, or... huh? ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  23:45, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

I undid the edit, don't worry. And about Bluejaysong, I don't think they'll get a ban unless they post the charart, I'll send them a message to change the reservation-- 23:52, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and I've been meaning to mention this; since Bramble, the one with the banning rights, is no longer leader, we can't hand out bans as freely. I've come up with a solution: if anyone posts a charart that is already up for approval, they will be asked to refrain from posting on the PCA talk page for 24 hours. I know this doesn't seem like the best way to do it, but it's really the only option. If the user insists on breaking the rules again (posts on the talk page before the day is up), they will be warned via their talk page by one of the leads. If they still refuse to obey the rules, then I'll ask Bramble to issue a ban. I'll add this into the guidelines if everyone's in agreement. 03:33, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me, but it does seem a bit light for violating a lead's word, so maybe add to the ban's time? <font color="#d73f17">Scarlet <font color="#65c9d2">wind <font color= "#1756d7">Medicine Cat of <font color="#121bcf">SolarClan 04:36, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Scarletwind; maybe a week's time? Even half a week'd be nice. P.S.--Is it possible to 'earn' banning rights or be 'granted' them by someone who has them, eg Bramble? Just wondering, 'cause it's not like you'd use them unfairly. ℳąφℓ₠ ƒя☼ş₮ ❣ ツ  17:42, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Scarletwind: I never stated the length of the ban. But yes, more than a day would probably be best. Maplefrost: No, as far as I know, you can only be an admin to issue bans. 20:23, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

Howl of Lone Wolf-Join Request
I'd like to join Project Character Art ^^ Howl Of Lone Wolf 18:48, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'll add you in now. Make sure you read the guidelines before reserving an image, and you can check out some tutorials here. 17:47, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Pelt mistake
If a cat was mentioned to have like a different colored pelt or something, could I do that as a charart for approval? Like for example- Mistystar was mentioned to have a pale gray coat. Could I do something like that, that was a mistake and was mentioned once? O.o 'Splashpelt  -Luvs Hopflight 00:23, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but not Mistystar. She was just a different shade of gray so it wouldn't really matter. 00:26, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Really? I did an alternate pale gray version of Yellowfang, who is dark gray, it's on her page. I'm pretty sure she can do that. . . 23:39, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, well other people have tried to do her alternate image and it has been declined. Though it might have been the dark gray version, I'm not sure. We'll have to see what others think. 00:05, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think you could do it, maybe it would be approved. (Sorry, I'm new here.) :-| Hollypool 17:33, December 30, 2010 (UTC)Hollypool

We have a discussion about this going on, please post there of your thoughts. 17:45, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

BlazingFire- Join Request and a question.
I was wondering if I could join the project. And I know this might be a mousebrained question but where are the linearts for the cats?

BlazingFire 12:40, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

BlazingFire

Click Community> Community portal>Project Character art. -Crystalstar999

You could do it like Crystalstar999 said, but you can also go to the main page and scroll down to the Pixel Blanks section. -- 17:34, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'll add you in now, Blazingfire. 19:08, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Mistystar Pelt Colour
Hey everyone. :) We've been having some issues discussing whether or not Mistystar should have an alternate image for pale gray or not. Do you guys think she deserves an alt? And why? 21:00, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think she needs an alternate since the alternate description is just a different shade of gray. Some users have compared this to Yellowfang's alternate image but the colour difference was quite obvious, whereas Mistystar's pelt colour right now is won't look as different if it was darker or paler. I hope that made sense-- 21:13, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with nightshine. Dark gray(And it was really dark) to light grey is a bigger change than from pale gray/silver to whatever shade of gray it's been mistaken for. And the shade of gray also kind of depends on the artist. What i just said didnt really make sense but i hope someone understands. 22:16, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think she deserves an alternate image. Blue-gray and light gray is a big contrast in colours. In some book (i forgot which one. ._.) Mistyfoot was mentioned as looking exactly like her mother's pelt, which is darker than her current one. We can tweak it in Tweak Week, and make an alt. But it's only my opinion, I can see reason in both of yours. :) 22:43, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Frostheart. There isn`t much else to say. . . she said everything I would`ve :P 22:52, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Frostheart and Night Shine both have great points but I think I agree with the alt. image too. Dark gray and pale gray are different. Blue-gray is like dark and pale gray is well....pale gray. 'Splashpelt -Luvs Hopflight 23:36, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess pale gray is much different from blue-gray, but she was also mentioned as dark gray and I don't think she needs a dark gray alternate like Splashpelt said. 23:59, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

No, she doesn't need a dark gray, though. Since her current image is too light, and needs to be tweaked, in my thoughts. 00:09, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Frostheart. 00:18, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I don't think she needs a dark gray alt. image. I meant pale gray. Sorry about that! 'Splashpelt -Luvs Hopflight 02:34, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

And I agree with Frostheart:) Splashpelt  '-Luvs Hopflight  18:32, December 31, 2010 (UTC)