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Unknown Resident Blanks - For Approval
I'll fix the paws and some anatomy soon. Just wanted to get these up. 18:42 Tue Jul 3

There’s waste outside the back paw on the short hair 23:25, July 3, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed some things that were bothering me. I may need to tweak the pose a little bit but for now I like these. 20:37 Fri Jul 6

I think the front legs should be slimmer? Not entirely sure, though. 21:45, July 6, 2018 (UTC)

I feel like we'd be able to see the cats thigh bent somewhat more? and the front half of the body seems a bit thicker in comparison to the back, which seems a bit thin if you get what I mean? the front leg closest to us also seems a bit too thick in comparison to the rest of the legs. 01:31, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

Could you make the lineart of the back leg closest to us double-pixels? Just in that one spot it isn’t, on both images. 21:09, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Still working, Sun? I know there’s not much of a limit for blanks, but.. . 05:40, July 12, 2018 (UTC)

I am. I've just had some problems with my tablet. I'll upload later today ^^; 11:20 Thu Jul 12

Reuploaded I'm working on that rump area, bear with me there 15:10 Fri Jul 13

Reuploaded If anyone can give me a red line to reference in fixing the proportion issue in the rump, it would be very appreciated ^^' 17:03 Fri Jul 13

Reuploaded 17:09 Fri Jul 13

I think there's some white waste along the ---> hind leg? Lovely images! :D 05:32, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Could you curve the back some more? Also I'm not too sure about this, but I think the belly should be lower than the chest at this angle? 15:57, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

By any chance, could you make the head higher so it aligns with the back or is maybe even a bit taller? 10:32, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

I'll try to. I'm going to be driving back North today, so I'll upload the version I have and then try messing with the head. 13:31 Tue Jul 17

Reuploaded Redid the tail on the longhair to define the stomach line as well. 18:18 Thu Jul 19

I (think) with how cats walk, the hind leg furtherest away from us would also be moving forward with the front leg thats in the air? like with that if you get what I mean. that's if it's walking and doesn't like, just have a paw in the air. otherwise maybe.....pmove the head over a wee bit, it seems like the neck is too short, and maybe thin out the front leg some more?. 23:48, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

There's no real limit for these, Sun, but I'm just gonna bump this to let you know you have a comment in case you haven't seen it. =)  (  05:56, 7/26/2018  ) ​ (  05:56, 7/26/2018  ) ​ (  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">05:56, 7/26/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">05:56, 7/26/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

I believe the anatomy on the face connected to the neck is incorrect... should it be "bent" that way, for lack of better terminology? 13:45, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

I'm reworking these from the ground up. It will be a few days, but I'm going to be tweaking the pose and stuff. So that's the plan for these... <span style="">20:15 Thu Jul 26

https://goo.gl/images/YGpqob This is what I'm changing it to. I'll working on it once I'm back at the house and get it posted hopefully today. <span style="">14:47 Fri Jul 27

Reuploaded I am going to fix the lack of the white layer asap <span style="">17:29 Fri Jul 27

These'll need to be just a little bit smaller, so it doesn't get distorted when it's displayed in the infobox. it'll shrink the blank by default, but I'd rather prevent this from happening in general to allow for no distortion of anyone's images. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">17:09, 7/28/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">17:09, 7/28/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">17:09, 7/28/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">17:09, 7/28/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

Can you make the blanks skinnier? The cats seem too big, even on the long haired. 17:12, July 28, 2018 (UTC)

i think the back shouldn't rise that high and should be more straight, unless they're doing the wiggly butt thing that is. 19:58, July 29, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lowered the back a tad, while still trying to keep the pose. <span style="">00:17 Mon Jul 30

the belly (more on the <-- side) is really big, like sticks out a lot. thin him out some more? --

The legs are reaallyy thick. Maybe thin them out too? :) 03:13, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Could you make the blanks solid white and not light pink while you're at it? I don't know if you forgot about that, so I might as well remind you. 22:20, August 4, 2018 (UTC)

Not trying to be rude, but I am not going to do the fill in white until the very end. Sai will remove it due to how it processes transparency, and I would rather be able to mold these easier and then do the white as the last thing. The pink is literally so it has something there. <span style="">22:25 Sat Aug 4

It's quite alright, Sun. You do what you have to do to make these as easy to work with as possible. You're not being rude in the least. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">23:10, 8/04/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">23:10, 8/04/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">23:10, 8/04/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">23:10, 8/04/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

Reuploaded These are the literal bane of my existance lmao <span style="">00:42 Sun Aug 5

I'm not sure how to word it so I tried for a redline of what I mean instead; http://vvcap.com/6yq3MZiH0VT the main thing is that there should be more of a bend in the hind leg to account for the knee, I think. 01:05, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded Also shrank it down a little bit cause I am pretty sure it was still too big <span style="">01:32 Sun Aug 5

I apologize for my earlier comment, I wasn't aware you were using Sai. My bad ^^. Could you make the front legs longer? I'm pretty sure they would be the same length as the hind ones at this angle. 19:15, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand the vertical line going through the cats' foreheads.  HA WK FI RE98  13:56, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Make the chest on the short hair thinner? it looks really bulky.

15:22, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded Also changed some things on the face <span style="">21:06 Wed Aug 8

Dovewing (GC) - For Approval
#itried, I'll redo the shading later as I'm not very happy with it. <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 12:52, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

While you do, define the shading everywhere, I can hardly even see it. 13:30, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Define the earpink as well.

Define the belly's pale parts^^ 21:27, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, did a different shading for the body and did my best to match the pale parts to her other images. <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 15:42, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Looks good so far. Your light source is confusing, but a simple way to fix that is to swap the front leg shading. Also, try and avoid leaking shading on the back legs (basically it's leaking into the stomach if you get me) Speaking of which, I think there should be shading on the stomach of some sort.

Smooth out the shading. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">18:00, 7/15/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">18:00, 7/15/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">18:00, 7/15/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">18:00, 7/15/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ Define the pale on the belly. <span style="">20:51 Sun Jul 15

Re-Ups, I defined the chest some but as far as I saw on the other images, the pale parts didn't reach the stomach. I also added more shading on the stomach. <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 13:31, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

I'm quite sure the other images have pale covering the belly - per the kit image (which was first), and it's quite visible on the loner. The other images have shading over it, hence it being not as visible, but it's there. 13:42, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, I added the stomach paler parts. Its not very bright as that's where shading is. <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 14:12, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

Smooth the shading more toward the top of the hindleg and shoulder. Define the light on the front legs.

14:26, July 16, 2018 (UTC) Try a stronger blur tool (check hard edged if you're using GIMP). The shading should be smoothed out everywhere except for the legs, imo

Re-Ups, I defined the light on the legs and smoothed the haunch and belly shading since those do meet. <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 10:28, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Not sure if it's just my screen, but the shading seems to be leaking in a couple spots, specifically near the base of the tail and in the corners of the underbelly. I know there are pale parts there, but the shading still shouldn't be coming away from the lineart. 11:54, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, I tried to fix it, hopefully I got it. <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 20:23, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be smoothed out, and the way it is shaded on the paws makes it seem like she has two darker legs, so define the light source there. 13:13, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

To add to Icy's comment, try removing (on the front legs) the < shading to define your light source. Also, remove some of the shading on the shoulder and move it ---> towards the shoulder lineart. And add some on the chest fluffh. Here's a red and blue line to help ya. Red is where your shading should generally be and blue is where it should not. It'll help ya with your light source. :D These blanks can be difficult to shade so don't fret about it. 04:53, July 24, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 19:26, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

Define the shading depth on the front legs.

20:07, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 21:57, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

CBA? 05:16, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, but I believe the overall shading can be smoothed out a fair bit more. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">10:40, 7/31/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">10:40, 7/31/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">10:40, 7/31/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">10:40, 7/31/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

This would benefit from adding shading depth to the stomach as well

Re-ups, #itriedagain <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 11:50, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

what I suggest about the stomach shading is to add a new layer and add more shading there. Right now it looks flat. Also, the shading on the front legs (upper portion if you get what i mean) can be smoothed out

Re-Ups <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 06:23, August 4, 2018 (UTC)

That looks better. The shading on the back leg and the stomach could be smoothed out. Blur the edges only so that the shading doesn't leak.

Re-Ups <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 08:13, August 4, 2018 (UTC)

Some of the lighter grey on the tail is leaking onto the rump, and I don't think it should be there? 22:17, August 4, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, that was really small. I don't see how that would have mattered but its removed. <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 05:52, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. The shading behind the front leg seems darker compared to the rest, mind lightening it? --

19:45, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

There is waste behind the front legs. <span style="">20:24 Sun Aug 5 2018

Re-Ups I didn't see any waste but I erased it just to be sure. <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 07:04, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, I redid the shading as it looked off so maybe this is better. <span style="color:#B40431; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:18px;">Minkclaw after all this time? Always. 18:34, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on --> half of the image. The other half is fine, but it's probably just the shading layer being weird.... it does it to almost every apprentice image I make, lmao. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:55, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:55, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

Crowfrost (kit) - for approval
My second gross charart which will most likely be declined oh well Red (talk) 06:57, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure Crowfrost wouldn't get a kit image due to his name being unknown as a kit. <span style="color:#0F4B13; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:8px;">But I am the Chosen One 08:38, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

nah, some characters with unknown kit names have been given art. I think characters with confirmed siblings/mothers have kit images regardless if they had a name or w/e (iirc, the reasoning is "they can't have a mother or siblings if they haven't been a kit" or something) but Crowfrost doesn't have any family listed other than his kids, so it doesn't apply to him. -

I'll assume the cite is valid (if it is mentioned that he went through childhood the name would be listed as unknown, since we can't assume anything). And as comments go:


 * 1) It seems like you aren't using layers, which is the reason why the colors leak past the linear art. Don't know what I mean? Check out the tutorials. I'd also like to ask which program you're using to do this. I highly recommend GIMP since it's free and easy to use, but if you already have the program photoshop is also excellent.
 * 2) You need to fill in the pupils and the eye color shouldn't leak out of the linear art. Again, check out the tutorials. I recommend using the pencil tool to fill in the eyes.
 * 3) You need to add shading. Simple blurred shading is fine. There are plenty of tutorials out there that are very helpful.

Blur or smudge the ear pink a bit. 03:09, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Crowfrost says 'before I was born' in some quote or something. And also, I use Medibang paint pro, so IDK whether there are any tutorials for that program. I think I'll use GIMP from now on. Can anyone send me a link? And also, I'm like a beginner in PCA, which is why I'm kinda bad ;-;. Thanks for the tips! Red (talk) 06:02, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

GIMP's official website is here: https://www.gimp.org if you aren't comfortable with random external links just look it up on Google and you'll find it.

All tutorials can be found here, but there are a lot of them!

For this image specifically, I recommend this tutorial on dual colored cats, this tutorial on shading and solid cats and you can also check out my tutorial about shading in general, which is very specific to GIMP. Unfortunately I do not think there're any tutorials for Medibang paint pro on this site.

Thanks! Red (talk) 09:13, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Still working? <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:07, 8/05/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:07, 8/05/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​​

This is great for your second charart ever! Add some pupils to his eyes.  HA WK FI RE98  21:56, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

They told me that they've been failing to get their programs to work. I'm not sure what the policy on this is, but from my experience some users have also been given extra time due to some inconveniences.

If their programs aren't working, I can give them until 11 August, but that's it. That's the end of the calendar week, aka this Saturday. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">17:27, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">17:27, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

It's literally downloading this second. But I may have to try again a few times. And I also may not have time to finish due to school stuff :/. But I'll try my best.

Red (talk) 06:09, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Actually, GIMP isn't working for me, I keep trying to download it but when I click finish setup, the program won't open ;-;. Someone else can take over Crowfrost's kit, and I won't really do much more charart until I can sort out GIMP and all. Red (talk) 08:18, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

GIMP started finally working! Red (talk) 07:14, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Alright, you still need to remember to reupload though. You'll still have until Saturday to reupload, since a program malfunction isn't your fault and you shouldn't be penalized for that. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:28, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:28, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

Eagle Feather (Hunter) - For Approval
My first charart in a very, very long time! I love these new hunter blanks. :-)  HA WK FI RE98  21:49, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

Same. They're probably my new favorite blanks tbh. Anyways, smooth out the highlights because they look a little blotchy as of now.

Are you using the same color for the base and earpink? They look a little neon compared to his other images. Unless it's the shading tint that making look super neon. 04:52, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Smoothed highlights and dulled coloring a bit.  HA WK FI RE98  13:11, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Friendly reminder to not align your image ^^ 16:07, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

I've renamed this for you. Please continue to reupload over File:Eagle Feather.hunter.png, to comply with naming policies. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">17:27, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">17:27, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">17:27, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

I do my editing on pixlr and it wouldn't let me put a period in the name when I was trying to name it originally. Maybe I can open it somewhere else in the future and rename it there?  HA WK FI RE98  18:39, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter what you name it on your own personal computer (half of mine are keysmashes), so as long as you just reupload as normal under the file I linked you, you should be fine. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">18:40, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">18:40, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">18:40, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

Smooth out the ear pink just a tad, and I think there's some shading leaking onto the front leg closest to us. You're doing great! 01:19, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

I think the highlights/shading could still be smoothed out.

'''Reuploaded. '''Smoothed highlights and shading more, smoothed ear pink. I searched for any leaking shading (I even wore my glasses! xD) but I really couldn't find any.  HA WK FI RE98  13:33, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

I think the shading/highlights could still be smoothed out a lot more. I think it might be your highlights in this case, but the base color doesn't quite look the same as the kit image. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:50, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:50, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:50, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

Sorry, I meant here on the forarm; I should've clarified better ^^' 20:04, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

I see what you're talking about now, Vec! I'll get on it. Also, Cloud, could you specify maybe where on the charart I can smooth out more? It looks pretty smooth to me.  HA WK FI RE98  22:20, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Pretty much everywhere. I've checked on both my phone and laptop (I'm not used to the calibrations on my laptop yet, hence why I also check my phone screen) and the shading appears fairly blotchy and rough.

Yew Tail (Hunter) - For Approval
00:56, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Define and darken the tail shading. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:05, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:05, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:05, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:05, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

So beautiful <3 Maybe add some shading to the back hind leg (on the side facing away from us).  HA WK FI RE98  01:14, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

The brown on the legs goes a bit higher, and he has brown ears. 01:39, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Adding to Jayce's comment, the facial shading should also be defined.

Re-uploaded: His ears are already brown. 00:25, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

The whole ear is brown, where as on here, the back part of it is cream. 01:07, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

...I am very confused. They are the same color. The ears are brown. 02:28, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

The area I circled is the part I'm talking about. 02:38, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Uh, did you want me to remove that or expand it? Because the ear is already brown and afaik, that is the ear itself. 03:07, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

That's basically what it's supposed to look like. 04:00, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Can you add a smidge of brown on the back foot away from us? So that way it can match the other back foot a bit better.  HA WK FI RE98  13:43, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front legs

Re-uploaded: 20:39, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Smudge the brown on the face, tail, and farthest front leg a bit. 21:23, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Quick Water (Hunter) - CBA
Oof I haven't done this in so long. 01:03, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Define the ear pink, if possible? <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:05, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:05, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

Is it just me, or does the shading look bluish/purplish??  HA WK FI RE98  01:12, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

It's a shading tint, and many images around here use that now. Blue/purple is a fairly common one with gray cats. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:13, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">01:13, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

Maybe make the tint a tiny bit less bright/neon? I love it though. 03:28, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

It doesn't look neon to me, and I've seen many images with shading just like this. I don't think they need to change the tint at all. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">03:34, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">03:34, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

I think I was using the highlighted version of the ear pink ^^'. And I am using a lighter blue for the tint, as I use the opposing color of the eye for the tint. And thanks, Winter! :) 03:38, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

The tint itself is fine, but depth could be added to the stomach so that it doesn't look flat. Also, the texture could stand to be less... line-y? If you get what I mean. It looks too much like long stripes running on the flank. The white shouldn't have texture either.

I blurred the texture by 0.5 so it would still look a bit sharp like in the other images. I could blur it more if everyone think fits.^^ 04:09, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

The texture looks fine compared to her other images. I know the tint looks fine on other images, but I think it looks a little neon on her stomach area. It just looks very blue compared to the white.  HA WK FI RE98  13:23, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the tint a bit and also defined the shading since you couldn't really see the base shading after I changed the color. 15:37, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

The texture still doesn't look quite right. I think it's because the "lines" on the main body are all going in one direction and not the direction of the fur. For example the lines near the spine should go -> that way. I also think the texture could be more dense and they could be smudged more so that they don't look like just stripes.

oh lordy.. I tried Fox. I tried lmao 01:51, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood my comment. My bad for not explaining clearly. In your old image, the tail and legs were fine, because they flowed in the direction of the fur. (the main body was the issue, as in the flank) Right now they all flow in the exact same direction, which shouldn't be because not all of the fur would flow the same way in a real cat. The body curves and whatnot and the fur should reflect that aside from the shading. If you are still confused I'll draw a redline for your reference.

Reuploaded Ah yes! I just reread your comment and I completely read the words wrong ^^'. My bad, tired right now. is this better? 02:36, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

On the tail, it looks like there are pieces of texture that are...perpendicular, for lack of a better word, that seem out of place? In the middle of the tail. 01:24, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded hm... apparently it was either midnight when i did that or i was gazing into narnia. 01:29, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

ok the texture looks much better. Thank you for trying to understand me lol. Anyways, could you add depth to the shading so that it looks less flat?

Reuploaded Switched up the shading because I realized it was wrong lmao. 17:57, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

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Pine Needle (Hunter) - For Approval
I'm trying out a new art program, not so sure about this Malina457 (talk) 04:38, August 6, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Smooth out the edges of the shading (it should look like a softer gradient if you're blurring it), and lighten it a fair bit. I'm not sure if it's my computer (which it very well MAY be), but I'm seeing just a solid black spot where the shading is. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">04:46, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">04:46, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">04:46, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">04:46, 8/06/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

I might have to lighten the whole image because of it, but I'll upload tomorrow along with the Fallensnow thing  Malina457 (talk) 04:49, August 6, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Seconding Jayce's comment. To add to your comment Malina, the base color should remain the same as the other images. Lightening the shading should fix it. Also, the shading is leaking, especially on the tail, front paws, and chin. 04:56, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Brighten the eye color a little bit more :)  HA WK FI RE98  13:25, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

reups tried a different way to shade, might redo it Malina457 (talk) 15:26, August 6, 2018 (UTC)Malina

There's some shading leaking around the image, particularly around the tail and hing legs. Also maybe add a little shading in the ear? And add some shading to the front leg closest to us. 16:04, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Reups there really was a lot, I hope I got it all Malina457 (talk) 16:36, August 6, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Reups waste Malina457 (talk) 18:35, August 6, 2018 (UTC)Malina

The shading on the hind leg farthest from us is not touching the lineart, so could you fix that? Smooth the shading while you're at it, too. 21:46, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Reups Malina457 (talk) 23:16, August 6, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Smooth the shading on the ears and tail, and define/add shading on the front leg closest to us. It seems like it doesn't have any? 04:36, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

he looks really blue. 07:40, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Alright, then I'm going to have to redo him, he isn't blue looking to me? Malina457 (talk) 13:20, August 7, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Reups Malina457 (talk) 13:32, August 7, 2018 (UTC)Malina

reups again Darkened it Malina457 (talk) 15:44, August 7, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Could you lighten the shading a bit? Or perhaps tint it instead? I'm still seeing the blocky shading I mentioned when you first posted it. I think it has to do with the base on this just being dark. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:52, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:52, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:52, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:52, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

reups I tried lightening it Malina457 (talk) 00:47, August 9, 2018 (UTC)Malina

Mud Paws (Hunter) ~ For Approval
always wanted to be lazy and name these files random things on my computer but then I'd probably regret it and also I would definitely not know what was what so just being boring with my file names works for me. also I am in love with this brush and this blank.

Hmm. I could be wrong but the light source seems inconsistent here. The tail and back legs tell me the light is coming from over there <- while the face and the front legs tell me its coming from over there ->. Maybe I got something wrong though. On a side note I love your new brush. I think I know which brush it is if you're using GIMP lol

It's more coming from the top, bit angled to the left, but I am trash with light sources even after a year so it could be a tad inconsistent. and yes you probably know what brush I am using because I used GIMP for this (and like. everything else I did)

I think if you just switch the front leg shading (just the lower parts and not the shoulder bits) and remove the back shading it should be good? 04:26, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

re-up Like that?

I think the shading at the base of the tail is inconsistent. Like its super dark and then lighter, almost like a stripe. If you need me to explain better, let me know. :)  HA WK FI RE98  19:40, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

go ahead and explain, I'm not really understanding.

re-up actually nvm I think I got it thank you Jayce

Jagged Peak (Hunter) ~ For Approval
i'm gonna probably end up redoing the shading on this... not sure if i got the leg to look right or not.

02:11, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Is the light source angled above him? If so, the rest of his body makes sense, but the tail shading is on the wrong side of his tail. Does that make sense?  HA WK FI RE98  13:23, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Redid the shading. I was more thinking that the light source is angled behind him.

13:32, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

With the updated shading, I can see that now. Looks better!  HA WK FI RE98  13:34, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Could you lighten the shading a tad? It kinda makes him look like he's got a black face TBH. It could be my macbook screen though bc it makes everything look darker than it's supposed to be

Re-uploaded.

15:53, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Maybe curl the limped foot more if you know what I mean? Ravenpaw99 (talk) 20:14, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

22:40, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Milkweed (Hunter) - For Approval
May need to get a .psd for this lol <span style="">14:12 Tue Aug 7

This is gorgeous Sun. <3 I may be mistaken, and feel free to ask for a second opinion, but I don't think the lighter orange (what appears to be the top layer of the pattern on this) is needed on the main body for this image? I'm not seeing it on the other images, besides for the paws, tail, and such. 01:05, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded I ended up just redoing it. It's closer to the rogue now I think. <span style="">20:50 Wed Aug 8

Define the shading, especially on the tail. I love this sun Malina457 (talk) 04:30, August 9, 2018 (UTC)malina

Spider Paw (Hunter) - For Approval
-- Advice for the shading, I'll probably redo it sometime but I don't have time right now.

Your shading placement is very good! :D Try smoothing it out a bit, and there's some shading leaking away on the booty and the back leg furthest from us. 03:09, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

You could also lower the opacity of the shading overall to make it easier to smooth out. If you're using GIMP, make sure you also check the "hard-edged" box in the blur tool (this makes the blurring much stronger, I still don't know why but it's extremely useful for smoothing out shading).

Reuploaded Hope the shading is better this time. --

Nice! Can you smooth the shading out on the front leg closest to us, and smooth it a tiny bit more along the body, more in the area of the back.

16:00, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for the suggestion, Patchfeather. Is there anything else I need to do? --

Smooth the shading on the neck.

16:28, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hope I got what you were saying correctly. --

Looks much better. Lower the opacity of the shading more and blur it further.

Black Ear (Hunter) ~ For Evaluation
I hope this is okay. Ravenpaw99 (talk) 17:12, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

the back patch shouldn't extend all the way to the neck, and the stripes on the face should go towards the muzzle rather than the mouth. the black on the ear is also only half the ear. 17:25, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

You should smooth the patches too, they look smoother in all the other images. From what I can see the stripes on his face need to be more curvy, like Trollsky mentions above. Could you also define the shading. <span style="color:#B40431; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:18px;">Minkclaw after all this time? Always. 17:28, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be smoothed out and blurred more. Am I missing something about the stars on his haunches? I know his warrior image has them too, but I don't understand why.  HA WK FI RE98  19:35, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

It was just a unique addition, since black placement is not required to be realistic. Also, the ear pink is fine and many images have it done in this style, my own included. We don't do things like how we did back in 2009/2010; users have developed different styles. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:37, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:37, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:37, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:37, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

A simple explanation was perfectly fine. No need to be rude.  HA WK FI RE98  19:43, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

I wasn't being rude. I was explaining that times have changed since you were active, that's all. You asked a question and I answered. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:45, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:45, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:45, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">19:45, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

Re-uploaded. Hope I got everything! Ravenpaw99 (talk) 03:18, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

This is really good! You should be proud of yourself! :D Mind tapering (making them thinner/pointier) the two lines on his cheek? 13:24, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Leaf (DTC) (Hunter) ~ For Approval
i can make bases MilkCoffee (talk) 20:27, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

Brighten up the white, please? If you're using a source that covers the white, perhaps try shading the white itself using a different shading layer. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">20:37, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​ <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">(  <span style="font-family:century gothic; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.0em 0.0em 0.2em; color:#000000; font-size:85%">20:37, 8/08/2018  <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; text-shadow:#0c28cf 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; color:#000000; font-size:86%">) ​

is this better now ?? MilkCoffee (talk) 23:15, August 8, 2018 (UTC)

You have to upload over the first image. When you click on the image, it should take you to its page File:Leaf_(DTC).hunter.png. Scroll down until you see "upload a newer version of this file". Click on that and upload the newest version. It should automatically show the latest version. Then you just come back here and let everyone know you reuploaded it. ^^ So upload your newest version over the original file. 00:43, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Dawn Mist (Hunter) ~ For Approval


There's some waste by the tail tip and smooth out the shading on the farthest back leg? O: Ravenpaw99 (talk) 03:24, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Oops. Forgot about the waste again.

Gooseberry (Hunter) ~ For Approval
I still can't stripe 05:28, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Reups I really shouldn't charart late at night 13:33, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Owl Eyes (Hunter) - For Approval
I used highlights and a different shading technique this time. I’m pretty pleased with this! Advanced for me. Plus the eye lineart edit, which was harder than I thought it would be. 07:26, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

He doesn't have the hunter rank, so I don't think he'd have this blank. <span style="color:#B40431; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:18px;">Minkclaw after all this time? Always. 07:50, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Oh...but he has the hunter category? 08:03, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Does he? Because I don't remember putting him on the Charart List page ._. I think the same happened with Willow Tail, Cloud said that Willow would still get it because of the mistake. That might be the same for Owl Eyes too <span style="color:#B40431; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:18px;">Minkclaw   after all this time? Always.  08:06, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

No, he would get it because he is listed in the allegiance as a hunter, same for every other cat. He doesn't get made Deputy till later in the book. If I'm correct, right? Ravenpaw99 (talk) 08:25, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

you're correct, and I added it to the page. also define the shading on this, especially around the neck and stomach. 08:28, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Sagewhisker (Star) Alternate ~ Declined
This is to promote me from kit to apprentice. I have done more than half but it is not complete. I didn't add graying muzzle (found it tricky) Peacewielder the NightWing 1 (talk) 07:52, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Sagewhisker already has her Star image.. <span style="color:#B40431; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:18px;">Minkclaw after all this time? Always. 07:54, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Sagewhisker doesn't have alternate ones. Peacewielder the NightWing 1 (talk) 07:59, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

She wouldn't get them. She hadn't been mistaken for a different color or pattern. <span style="color:#B40431; text-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #569B5B; font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:18px;">Minkclaw after all this time? Always. 08:00, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

She is mentioned to have green eyes once and amber eyes once Peacewielder the NightWing 1 (talk) 08:05, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

we don't do alts for eye colour alone. this'll be declined when a lead is on. 08:08, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

As per the others. Declining.

Dust Muzzle (Hunter) - For Approval
Hoo boy, it’s been a while since I’ve done one of these. This method of drawing tabbies and shading with no highlights and such feels so old to me now, but I think it’s a pretty decent match for my other Dust Muzzle chararts, at least. Thoughts? Jayie Just yo u wait~ 14:06, August 9, 2018 (UTC)