Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Tweak Page

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=Tweaking=

Silverstream (Alt Q) ~ Redo
okay, here she is. Pretty sure I need to fix that back left leg, it's my first time tweaking and I attempted it. Minkclaw Winter is coming. 03:41, December 5, 2018 (UTC)

This is very good for your first tweak! And yeah, add some shading to the back leg closest to us; try matching the hue and placement as best as you can. And maybe try adding/smoothing the shading out behind the shoulder some? It seems kinda blotchy. 04:03, December 5, 2018 (UTC)

The shading in general seems super blotchy, and I only noticed it after the tweak approval went up... whoops. Do you think you could smooth out all the shading a bit? Also there's some unfilled space on her back? —

I'm sorry, but I really don't think the shading is blotchy in the least. It seems that people are trying to revert back to the super smooth shading methods, despite that not being mandatory. Plenty of images use shading styles like this (if we want rougher shading, for lack of a better word, Sunjaw and Jayie's works come to mind), and I don't see a reason to change it, especially since Mink was only asked to tweak the lineart. ​

Will I be smoothing the shading then or leave it be since the lineart was the only thing I was to fix, Jayce? I'll get the one on the back as well. Minkclaw Winter is coming. 04:36, December 5, 2018 (UTC)

At the very least, I think the shading should be smoothed out a lil bit on the shoulder. I do use this kind of style shading in my own art outside wiki from time to time, so it's understandable, but the shoulder needs a tiny bit of bluring just to keep the flow of it. I know that's not what this was nominated for but I don't think a lil touch would hurt, considering things get added onto tweaks during their approval phase sometimes I've noticed. —

(I didn't realize this image existed lmao, I thought that style was familiar) I think it could be smoothed out, but the problem is it's difficult to do so without wrecking the image. My suggestion is that you create a layer underneath and fill it with the base color, then try and smooth the shading from there. I miiight have the file somewhere in my computer but I can't promise that. Also, I want to ask: was this original image ever approved in the first place?

Yes, I believe it was. It's here. Minkclaw Winter is coming. 04:52, December 5, 2018 (UTC)

That was the initial approval of the very first version of it - I can try and find the redone approval one? —

Found it. It was declined due to not knowing what blank it should be under it seems. —

I kinda wanna know from an admin if I'm able to fix the shading, as I don't wanna overstep any boundaries in doing so. Minkclaw Winter is coming. 07:17, December 5, 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to do whatever tweaks that are suggested. If you'd rather, you have my permission to redo it as well, given this wasn't approved. I was unaware this wasn't ever approved, (read: I have a crappy memory) and thanks to Echo for finding the correct archive. ​

So I'll just redo it then. Minkclaw Winter is coming. 07:31, December 5, 2018 (UTC)

actually though, the declined archive for this brings up a valid point about not knowing what her rank was in that image. i'll bring that up for further discussion on the talk page.

She was told to be a queen in the book is she not? I saw where it states that she died from giving birth so would that not warrant a queen image?? Minkclaw Winter is coming. 10:28, December 5, 2018 (UTC)

Alright, I just went through Silverstream's section in Cats of the Clans and my honest hot take is that she should have both a Queen and a Warrior alt for this design since she is described as both. It details her time as a warrior when she fell in love with Graystripe and also describes her death. The last paragraph says
 * In the end Silverstream paid the highest price of all, bleeding out her life on Sunningrocks as she gave birth to Graystripe’s kits.

I think this queen alt is valid and Mink, you should take the opportunity to make it a redo, especially since Jayce gave you permission to do so. —

Yeah, I planned on redoing it. Do I just upload it here or rename the heading as a Redo? Minkclaw Winter is coming. 00:15, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Upload here and change the heading. ​

Re-Ups, I might add some facial stripes on my next upload as I forgot those but here she is. Not my best work but I tried. Minkclaw Winter is coming. 04:12, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

This is gorgeous! Can you add back the lighter markings too ? If I remember right her original design had lighter paws and stuff. —

Its a redo so I think its my choice. I'm going by the image where she appears like this. Since it is a redo I'd like to see if I can keep this design. Minkclaw Winter is coming. 05:28, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

It's not your choice when her image from The Ultimate Guide shows her with the lighter markings. =P ​

Re-Ups, I didn't notice the lighter markings on it. My apologies. Minkclaw Winter is coming. 05:43, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

It's all good, I'm just poking fun. Could you brighten up those markings some, while we're at it? They're a bit more distinctive than that on her TUG image. ​

The white marking, yes? Minkclaw Winter is coming. 07:19, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Are they white? Yeah, those markings. Sorry, kinda tired. ​

Thicken the stripes a bit, especially on the tail, and make her eyes more of a brighter blue. (Assuming you are trying to make it similar to the TUG image) 14:39, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Re-Ups, I thickened the stripes and added the stripes to the face. Hopefully the paler parts are bright enough now? Minkclaw   Winter is coming.  04:56, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

Cloudpelt (D) - Redone
I... do not like this. OA is Sziri. I just wanted to get this up, I probably will fix a few things tomorrow. 22:50, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Define the shadingHeyoitpotater (talk) 23:15, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Yes define the shading, and I cannot see any shading on the limbs furthest from us. 01:20, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

While on the shading, maybe define the shading depth a bit too? 03:07, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 21:10, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

Darken the shading. I'm having a very rough time seeing it. ​​

I can see it fine on my screen! 18:27, December 8, 2018 (UTC)

Cloudpelt (W) - Redone
OAs include Darkhallows, Leaf-storm, Ravensong, and Fernflight. 22:15, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

Define and darken the shading. I can't see it at all.