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Minty (Ro) ~ Tweaked
My first tweak :3 OA was Icestorm123 and the shading needed to be blurred. 13:49, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

I had reserved this, but I don't want to take away your glory ;3 I'll be happy to give it to you ;D Blur the shading a bit still. 05:57, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

facepalm* I'm sorry! Anyways, '''Re-Uploaded. ''' 14:36, December 27, 2011 (UTC) Blur the tail tip. 14:40, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. ''' 15:16, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

The tail looks like she has a gray tail tip, and not a highlight.. Can you fix that? 15:57, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a tad more. 20:35, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 22:23, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the eyes lighter and brighter, and redden the earpink. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:27, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks to me like it's only on the outside of the image and in. Lighten the back, darken the neck, lighten some of the legs and tail, and shade behind the shoulders. Breeze whisker  15:49, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uplaoded. I re-did the tail shading because it was giving me a headache. :P 18:55, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the back shading and lighten all the shading. 01:40, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the whole image, including the eyes, so it matches the queen. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  09:14, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 17:44, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Look here for a better idea of what the shading placement should look like, and blur all the shading. 22:39 Sun Jan 1

Re-Uploaded. I re-did her. 19:39, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading and blur the earpink. 19:45, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bunch. 01:43 Tue Jan 3

Re-Uplaoded. 21:06, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Nice job! But can you fix the tail highlight? It still looks as if she was a gray tipped tail. Also, make her nose darker. 21:14, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 20:07, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Can you lighten and bright the eyes a lot? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  11:38, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 16:31, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Define the earpink. Looks great! 04:00, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 22:18, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Define the earpink more. 23:55 Mon Jan 9

Blackstar (Ro) Redone
I got permission for Iceheart to redo him instead of making it a tweak. His pelt colored bothered me; I felt it was too close to white. First redo as a warrior (Not on the list yet, but I've had 4 chararts approved) 12:27, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

AGIN! Its rogue, no rougue! ,13:51,December 30,2011 (UTC)

Leaf, chill, its just a typo, it can be fixed. Lighten the shading a bit. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:10, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Chill Leafstorm, and spell correctly if you're going to correct. Shouldn't the black go up farther on his legs to match his leader? Breeze whisker  16:05, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I just reread that. I didn't mean to sound so rude. Sorry Leaf. ^^; Breeze  whisker  16:18, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  16:48, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a little. 17:28, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I love Blackstar! The back black paws should be a little more black. 17:35, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

No, if they're any darker than you won't be able to see the lineart 17:37, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I think she meant raise to black up or something xD Blur the earpink alittle bit - 17:38, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah sorry. I meant to raise it up so it's level with the front. 17:42, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  18:45, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

You forgot the back black paws. 20:51, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the black and enlarge the earpink. 20:53, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading more - 20:57, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

And blur said shafing. Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 22:13, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 13:55, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the black in the ears. 22:41 Sun Jan 1

Blur and lighten the shading more - 00:17, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the white into the black on the ears. 03:59, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  00:32, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the paws and blur them 00:46, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Make the earpink larger and add eye color. a cat ♣  named Cheshire  Most Everyone's Mad Here... 01:33, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Leopardstar (D) ~ Redone
She needed to be redone to match others she was on the list. OA was Sandstar12. Comments? 03:30, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Make the unshaded bits brighter, they sorta look shiny on the other images. Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 03:32, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

She looks kinda greenish. Make her a little more orange. 03:33, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:40, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Make her a bit brighter. Sky-Jedi  You will talk to me. 22:10, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit and define the earpink. 20:33, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 00:51, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Saturate the image a tad and add highlights so it matches the other images. 05:49 Sat Jan 7

Also, lighten the whole image just a tad. 03:57, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:02, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Add/brighten highlights so this looks shinier (like the other images) 02:02 Tue Jan 10

Coal (Ro) ~ Redone
Yay! My first tweaked charart! Just to tell you, I use highlights and right now they're blurred to the max. ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  23:50, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

OA and why did it have to be redone? 23:51, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

lighten the whole thing, I can't see the lineart 23:53, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

It was on the redo list and OA is Blackclaw09. ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  23:58, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  00:00, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Center the earpink. 00:35, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

His ears are facing <---that way though. ♫Purplemoon♪  2012! The end of the world?  00:39, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but they should still be centered. That's the placement. 00:47, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

But, the earpink placement for Shadepelt's elder would have to be centered, then. I think it's fine. 00:49, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

If is ear-pink facing ←← this way, i think you should add it on the second ear too. ,18:25,January 5,2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded ♫Purplemoon♪   2012! The end of the world?  14:28, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the pelt more, and maybe enlarge the highlights 06:36, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Milkfur (WC) (D) ~ Redone
Needed to be done as shorthaired. OA was Moonflight, comments? 08:27, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Add some haunch shading, and blur alot. Sky-  Lather. Rinse. Obey. 09:58, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Blur that light parts alot ,18:20,January 5,2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading and lighten it. <span style="">20:07 Thu Jan 5

It looks like there is blurred lineart on the haunch. 20:11, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

You know you didn't actually have to redo it? You can just layer the shorthaired lineart over the original version. See the tutorial if you don't know how. 22:32, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tiny bit, and there's some missing lineart on the front paw and a few other places. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:20, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a tad more. 03:44, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Still working on this, Dapple? 22:23, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 23:07, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

(If this isn't a highlight, just ignore what I say ;)) Tone down the highlight on the tip of the tail. It looks really bright. O.o 23:12, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made it a bit darker. 23:33, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Make him a slightly creamier colour? <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Lather. Rinse. Obey. 23:46, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

The color is from the old image. 01:10, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

It does look a bit too white, and it's his only image anyway. It wouldn't hurt to make it a bit more creamy color. <span style="">01:26, Wed, Jan, 11, 2012

Gorsetail (P3) (W) ~ Redone
Okay, it was on the redo list because the patches need to be lighter and shading needs to be redone. OA= Flamingomom3 with a redo/tweak by Moonleaf. Comments? 00:07, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Make the patches on her front legs and hind foot closest to us darker. It was only a tweak. 00:22, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Tone done zee highlights please. <span style="">00:01 Tue Jan 10

Reuploaded. Deleted the highlight layer. 02:14, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Ivy, but... could you change the pattern? This pattern makes it look like it's a white cat with bad shading, sorry. :C 02:21, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Little Mew (Ki) - Tweak
Needed to be short haired. OA - was Dawnfeather/Sandstar with a redo, it looks like by Shelly. Comments? 05:43, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Crapp~ I fail. I'll get the lineart on the back paw. 05:46, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 05:48, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading. 01:41, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:52, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Aww.. define the earpink. <span style="">01:19, Wed, Jan, 11, 2012

Reuploaded =3 20:09, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Lizardstripe(Q) - Redone
Well, she is on the list, her shadings are blotchy, stripes too...she needs really redone..OA is Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire :-) Arrg that stripes are confusing xD I was trying the new way of tabbies but everything wasnt looking good on her o_O ,10:13,January 7,2012 (UTC)

'Cause she's a heartless evil little cat that Brokenstar hopefully killed. Darken the ear-pink a bit. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:57, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

No, she died for greencought, nevermind... Reuploaded ,19:18,January 7,2012 (UTC)

Define the edges of the white 05:17, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Ruploaded ,11:28,January 8,2012 (UTC)

Make the earpink a tad more visible and slightly less purply? <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue">Lather. Rinse. Obey. 04:03, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

reuploaded *dont kill me* ,17:39,January 9,2012 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller 02:38, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Its not needed ,20:07,January 10,2012 (UTC)

Could you blur the stripes a bit? It looks like a field of wheat is printed onto her pelt. 20:11, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe she found some and made her nest from it xD Ahh reuploaded ,20:30,January 10,2012 (UTC)

Firestar (KP) ~ Redone
I had time to put him up! 8D Anyways, OA was Night Shine, with major tweaks by Ivystripe, comments for improvement? 02:29, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Not major tweaks by me, it was redone by me. Sorry it's just a little irritating for me 03:01, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I should have realized. XD Sorry. 03:10, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I think (since we're going by Paleh's design) you should ask Paleh to send you her .xcf file so the colours completely match. Sound okay to you? <span style="">05:14 Sun Jan 8

Firestar (L) - Redone
Many OAs for this: Bramble, Night Shine, Squirrelflight, Rainlegs, and a redo by Icestorm123. I had had a different design for Firestr, but Paleh uploaded hers first and it's not fair to make everyone doing one of his images completly throw away their hard work. 05:12, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I think (since we're going by Paleh's design) you should ask Paleh to send you her .xcf file so the colours completely match. Sound okay to you? <span style="">05:13 Sun Jan 8

Well you reserved first Ivy, so I personally think you should pic. I just didn't want to wait for you to post since I didn't know how long it'd be. But if we do keep this design, yes, I'd be happy to send you the .xcf file. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  10:00, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'd say go by what the user on the talk page said. Make him look less like a dark ginger cat and lighten the stripes a bit. You could still go by the image I cited. Or you could even go ahead and make him the same color as Squirrelflight. 02:51, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Ya still working on this Ivy? If so, smudge the stripes and the pale chest, and there's waste above the head. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:48, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ok, I kept the same pattern but I took some of Shelly's advice: using Squirrelflight's colors, and I tried making him long-furred. I tried to make it so it would disrupt as little in the other pictures as possible. The shading also has a flame-tint to it. 18:43, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

(has to tweak my alt now, dang) Looks pretty good! Very flame colored, that's for sure. :3 Just define the shading a bit, I can't tell where it is. 19:03, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait, no I don't. He's short furred on that cover. 19:08, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded me gusta  19:08, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I said everything about this I needed to on chat already, but I really do think he should be shorthaired. He was mentioned many times with short fur before. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  19:08, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

If that's so, Paleh, could you put it in his description with a cite to end all arguments on the subject? 19:09, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

He looks awesome, but I honestly think he should be short-haired. Just because it says he has thick fur doesn't nessisarilly make him long-haired. Look at Gorsepaw. His description says he has short, thick fur. Just sayin' (Besides, long-hairedness is a recesive gene). 19:46, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Songbird (Q) ~ Redone
Redone because it was blotchy, tinted green, and the tabby pattern was unrealistic. OA=Icestorm123, later redone by Dappleclaw, then tweaked a bit by Dappleclaw and Nightshine. (I think) 16:55, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten up the unshaded parts a bit. (Might just be me though) <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue">Lather. Rinse. Obey. 21:17, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

... okay. Smudge the stripes to be less solid. 22:49, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Smudges the white some more. Define the shading 23:02, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the brown up too, seeing as she's a light brown tabby. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue">Lather. Rinse. Obey. 02:43, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

And if you want the tabby pattern to be realistic as you said, ditch the triangles. 02:46, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, idiot me. :P But, I have to withdraw this due to a very busy week. 01:06, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'll take over. :3 01:07, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Echosong (MC) ~ Redone
The stripes needed to be fixed, just decided to redo it. I tried a new way of doing tabbies. OA was Ivypool but I don't think that one counts so it's Bramble and was later redone by Frostheart. Comments? 00:31, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

I think unless it's on the redo list you need permission... 00:34, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Oh I don't know. Scarlet said on my talk page that she doesn't care what gets redone. I thought it alpied to all tweaks. But someone can decline this if it's against the rules. 00:43, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

But, just in case, I give her permission here and now. Mountainheart knows how to use good judgement, and just tweaking a stripe pattern is very difficult. 01:23, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well technically we decided that you do need to get permission before you redo, or else it gets declined so...... :/ But you could probably go ask then keep this up. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:34, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, Echosong's on the redo list. That means that Mountainheart didn't need to go to anyone, if I remember correctly. 01:39, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

It was on the tweak list but the stripes were hard to work with. That's why I redid it. I don't want to cause an arguement because of this. 01:50, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

...I asked Scarlet a few weeks ago if I could redo this, but she said it looked fine...Well, I guess if its on the redo list, you can redo it, then. define the shading and earpink. 22:51, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'm really, really sorry about this. I promise I will ask before I redo it. I assumed that I should just redo the stripes and I'm terribly sorry. 23:50, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Don't let yourself down. Blur the earpink some 02:23, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks Bloo :) 02:27, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, personally I think if it wasn't on the redo list to begin with, it should have been. It's nearly impossible to redo stripes without redoing an image. I think you should be fine since people agree. Redden the earpink a bit. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  17:13, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Stumpytail (W) - Redone
Before anyone says anything, he was on the redo list. His shading was blotchy and his stripes needed to be redone. OA was Sandstar12. Comments? 01:47, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

You stole my spot. >:( Anyways, darken the shading. <span style="">01:57, Tue, Jan, 10, 2012

Reuploaded 02:01, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

I think he should be more brown. Right now his colour looks similar to Squirrelfur's. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Lather. Rinse. Obey. 02:16, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading and stripes on the tail 02:36, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 02:54, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Ooh, I like. Make him a little less ginger and enlarge and define the earpink a bit. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:06, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Add some more stripes on the unstriped parts of the body. 20:25, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Dawncloud (W) - Redone
To match the others. Also blotchy shading ._. blotchy shading angers Wildy. <span style="">02:08 Tue Jan 10

Quietstep was the OA :P <span style="">02:09 Tue Jan 10

Wildy rage is bad, only if Wildy is raging on ME. define the tail shading 02:17, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Featherstorm (Q)- tweaked
Made her more brown, less green, fixed miscolored pixels, and filled in nose. Not much a difference really. Oa= Darkhallows 02:32, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

I think you should make her lighter. She looks dark brown, instead of just brown. 02:39, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Eh, Im not so sure about that. Maybe not 02:48, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

I think this shade is fine. Can make the earpink a tad bigger? 02:55, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

re-Uploaded 03:08, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Can you define the shading a bit and make the back leg less ginger? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:03, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Same with the front paw furtherest from us. <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue" >Sky- <font face="Cambria" size="2" color="blue"> Lather. Rinse. Obey. 21:49, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Minnowtail (Ki) - Tweaked
First tweak/redo as a warrior! Shading and earpink needed to blurred and there was some smudged lineart so I fixed that hopefully. OA was *Ivypool*, I'm pretty sure, as that's what it says in the file history. <span style="">02:44, Tue, Jan, 10, 2012

Blur the shading a little more. =3 02:46, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Can you make her nose gray? ;) 02:54, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  <span style="">01:14, Wed, Jan, 11, 2012

Redscar (MC) ~ Redone
Been waiting a while for a medicine cat to go on the redo list. :3 Trying to get every rank. By the way, I'm fine with anyone that wants to redoing Mistystar's images to match mine up there. You guys are warriors and up. You can copy my solid colored cat. 21:24, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, the OA was Flamingomom3. 23:10, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Nice work. Blur the earpink a bit more, though. 01:03, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 06:37, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Quince (Q) ~ Redone
OA was Ashshadow and the shading needed to be blurred. 21:37, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Blur it more, and fix the little gray tail tip thing. 01:02, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

The ear pink should be bigger and paler, the eyes could use some depth, as could the collar, and the tag would benefit from a few near white pixels to make it look metal. 06:39, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Use the color #C7616F for the ear pink. That's directly from the kittypet image, as I still have the .xcf from when I fixed it up a while back. Not half bad, otherwise. =D 06:43, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Did you get permission to redo? Cause just a shading tweak shouldn't really qualify for a redo.... But if you have permission there's no problems. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  15:15, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I looked at the old file, and I now give my support to have it redone. If she wasn't going to do it, I eventually was. That image needed to have something done to it. The shading was blotchy and it just seemed off. Not everyone can tweak shading without re-doing it. 16:36, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Tornear (E) ~ Redone
OA was Nightfall101; stripes were strange and unrealistic and it was on the re-do list. Comments? 01:02, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a tad and blur the stripes. 02:15, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Can you put some stripes on the legs? 06:38, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Emberfoot (W) ~ Tweak
.xcf files are a lifesaver. I re-did the shading, and fixed up the eyes (they were all flat and one color) and the every-annoying ear pink. 16:40, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, darken the earpink and lighten the shading. 16:44, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't lighten it much, because I've taken a liking to darker shading. Re-uploaded. 16:49, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Lizardfang (E) - Redone
Well he is on the redo-list with stripes, shadings needs redone too. I decided make him, but right now i saw he is looking like dark with light stripes..hmm, my very first elder ever -_- OA is Sandstar12. *I failed with this* ,18:37,January 11,2012 (UTC)

Blur and lighten the stripes, I think. 19:01, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Mistystar (Ki) ~ Redone
Man, this one never even got redone to resemble the last leader image she had. Eesh. Anyway, redone to resemble her new image. OA was Brightfrost with a redo by Mistystar and a tweak by Paleclaw. Comments? 19:24, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Firestar (W) - Redone
Ivy, you're lucky you're one of the few people I'd agree to actually do that. XD But I do love your Firestar image more than I can describe. XD I'm actually proud at my matching skillz (nonexistent) for once. XD OA was Quailflight, then a redo by Ivy, then by me, and no by me again. XD Comments? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  19:35, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Icecloud (W) ~ Redone
The shagding was poor and the ear-pink was to dark for a white cat. The OA was either Cloudy or Icecloud. I got permission to redo this from Ivy in chat a couple minutes ago by the way. Comments for improvement? 19:41, January 11, 2012 (UTC)