Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Tweak Page

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Applefur (W) - Tweaked
Alright, original artist was Honeyfur :3. Tweaked the shading, fixed the mottles, and altered the base color a tad to make her more brown. Comments? Selene; She's got eyes of the bluest sky~  20:25, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur and darken the shading a lot. 22:42, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you mottled the earpink too. Define the earpink and make it a solid color. 02:06, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

And there's a random stripe running down her back. Any way to get rid of? Sky- Stealing all ur  candy 00:07, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. '''better~? Selene; She's got eyes of the bluest sky~  20:31, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred and the mottles look more like dapples. 20:55, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the ear-pink. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 01:31, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

While you're at it, blur the earpink as well, and make it a little more triangular. Looks good. 15:09, October 14, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

It might just be me, but on her chest there's some pinkish stuff that makes it look like skin. Maybe remove those? 20:19, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded~! '''the pinkish stuff was some desaturated shading. I altered the base color because that was the only way to get rid of it without killing it T.T. I would prefer not changing the mottles. If I did, the entire image would have to be redone, which is more effort than I would like.

The shading needs to be lightened and blurred. The mottles need to be changed, though. 15:04, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Why do the mottles need to be changed? Elorisa~ 15:20, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

I've stated above. 15:41, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Is there really that big of a difference between mottles and dapples? There are around 3 images that have mottles similar to mine, and there was no fuss about them. Criminal Scum Stealing from the Imperial City; one house at a time~ 15:51, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

There is a difference...and there is some blurred lineart. 14:03, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Move the ear pink up about a pixel, and make it easier for someone to see it, 'cause I'm having a really hard time. 18:40, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. 15:15, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

It was reuploaded today Cloudy, she probably just forgot to post. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  18:14, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ah. I was going by when she last posted. Sorry. 18:16, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes, I did reupload it xD. Forgot to post ;3. It's the one with the altered base color (I redid it) Comments? Criminal Scum Stealing from the Imperial City; one house at a time~ 20:31, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

I told you to fix your sig. Lighten the ear pink, make it more triangular, define the shading and lighten it. 01:03, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear pink as well. 04:29, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink a bit and add some highlights on the tail. 23:16, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Wow this is so pretty! darke the shading on the hind foot farthest from us 23:50, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded~ Better? ''' Elorisa 02:41, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Jaggedtooth (W) - Redone
Hey, Im warrior today! yahuu. I tryied match him with rogue charart, OA was Sandstar12 Leaf-storm,20:33,October 16,2011 (UTC)

Congrats, and job well done, Leaf. Lighten the shading a tad. 20:40, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Enlarge the chest highlight/thin out the shading around that area. I'm not sure if you use highlights or not, so choose either option that'll work best for you. ;) 20:56, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think I not understard you correctly Rainy.. hmm but reuploaded Leaf-storm,13:13,October 17,2011 (UTC)

The shading is kind of weird... it doesn't make sense, really. Try to make it match this tutorial and it'll make more sense. 00:19 Tue Oct 18

ah! I forget say reuploaded! Leaf-storm,19:03,October 18,2011 (UTC)

Move the chest highlight up more. 23:27, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded - Leaf-storm,15:07,October 19,2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch highlight. 20:32, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Leaf-storm,12:23,October 21,2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes on his right ear a tad thinner, its looks a little red. 16:37, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded - Leaf-storm,09:47,October 22,2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink less purple. 17:00, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Foxheart (W) Redone
first one in a while..Lets see if I can do this. Jeez, i need to lay of the tabbies for a while. OA=Fawnstorm - 01:41, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

And I forgot save teh layers, Im so smart, aint I? - 01:42, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, dear. Blu the shading, or the stripe that runs from the tail to the base of the tail - and the stripe that outlines the chest and back. 01:44, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea what you just said. what about the stripes again? - 02:00, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh, forget about it i just redid the whole thing - 03:59, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste between the fore and back legs. Awesomeness. 15:31, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the shading just a bit. 23:28, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the earpink. 23:24, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

brighten the highlight on the tail 23:45, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

You still working on this, Bloo? 01:28 Sat Oct 22

Mosspelt (Alt. Q) - Redone
Argh, the charart that was up for approval for FIVE MONTHS. Original artist was me, and she needed to be longhaired. 20:44, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Haha! I remeber this one. Blur the shading. =) 21:13, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I also made the earpink more visible. 21:42, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink more; its still hard to see. 22:17, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wait for the changes to show. 23:52, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think you forgot to fill in the nose of this pretty cat. :3 Sky- Stealing all ur  candy 00:02, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink a bit more. I know you did it already, but it needs to be defined a little more. XD Also brighten it. And I remember this one, I had JUST come into the PCA when it was up, and I kept wondering why it was up for so long. XD Honestly it looked fine to me. :P ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  07:06, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Possibly add some/more depth to the eye. Also, it may be me, but I think you really need to blend the shading in. It doesn't really look 3-D at the moment. I would just use the smudge tool and smudge the shading like chararts where you can see the texture of the pelt and then blur it somewhat. Or if you use layers and gimp (I think Pixlr has the filter too), I suggest using the gaussian blur. Other than that, I love the color and it looks awesome! :D 23:01, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading. @Skystar The nose is filled in. 20:27, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

I know this is supposed to be bracken-coloured, but honestly the colour's kind of off. I don't know how to describe it, but if you could adjust the saturation or run the dodge and/or burn tool over this to make the colour a bit richer and less green (it's not actually green; it just seems green-tinted). I'm not asking you to redo this... just tweak it a tad :3 06:05 Thu Oct 20

Reuploaded It honestly looked fine to me, but if you say so... 17:09, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading, darken it, dull the highlights and blur. 20:55, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger and more pink. -- 21:18, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I honestly think it's too dark, but I'll let everyone else decide. 22:47, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I'm sorry, but this just isn't bracken-coloured. Could you try to make it closer to this colour? I'm not trying to be bossy or anything, I just honestly think this isn't the right colour. 01:32 Sat Oct 22

Reuploaded This good? 03:19, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pink. 16:59, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I tried. 17:36, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Leopardstar (Alt. D)~ Redone
OA was me and it needed to be long haired. Comments? 22:10, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little more pink, instead of purple. It looks much better then it did before, Iceheart. 23:25, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten it a tad. It looks a bit black :3 06:12 Thu Oct 20

Are you still working on this, Ice? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 00:59, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

She is. She told me she'd be on tomorrow. 01:48 Sat Oct 22

Shiningheart (W) - Redone
Silver tabbies have black stripes. I had to fix the shading and all the stripes were smudged, so I just redid it to match her queen charart up. OA was Icethroat. Comments? - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 02:04, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Not ALL silver tabbies have black stripes, I've seen tons with dark grey stripes. But I like this a lot better than the old one. Is there shading on the stripes? If not, put them under the shading maybe. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  04:27, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 22:49, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Since you asked..... Blur the shading. Also, there are some stripes that look a tad our of place. If you look at the haunch, some of them aren't as blurred as the others. Dull the highlight on the haunch as well. 22:55, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Add a stripe or two to the top of the head, it looks a lil plain. 00:17, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Because she's sitting instead of lying down, her stripes will be a little off, but I think that they match well enough. @Cloudy, no highlights in this one, but I the patch a bit smaller. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 02:07, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Erase the waste below the muzzle and beside the chest. 17:21, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights brighter and also try to smudge everything into th pelt more. 20:49, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sandstorm, if you were reading, Scarlet isn't using highlights with this one. Also, I think the stripes look just fine. 20:53, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Cloud you tone down the earpink a bit? It's a little bright. And yeah, I agree, the stripes look fine. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  21:39, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 22:22, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Daisytail (Q) - Redone
Got permission to redo this. Her old charart was neither light brown, nor dark ginger, and was dark brown and red. And I'm pretty sure she needed stripes. Since the ginger and white ones go stripes, I figured she would too. Anyways, comments? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  04:13, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

If you look at the other image, it looked nothing like her description. I'm impressed at how this looks. I want to ask you to make the stripes a little more gingery, but that seems like it would take too much work. Instead, I'll just ask you to darken the shading. 04:20, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks Cloudy. And done. :) ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  04:25, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Now, blur the edges of said darkened shading. Other then that, I see nothing wrong. And you said you're not fit to be a senior warrior... Rubbish. 04:28, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Forgot to mention the OA was Rainy. XD Sorry. :P ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  16:58, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tabby stripes more. 21:15, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Not gonna blur the stripes anymore after this. They won't be visibly anymore. XD ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  14:21, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Why is it so weirdly smudged...? Oh well, darken the ear pink 22:41, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - What's weird about the way it's smudged? D: And I darkened the earpink. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  00:42, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ah never mind about that. Just define the stripes on the head and chest 01:01, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

I was just told to blur them, I'm not practically undoing that now. XD ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  01:13, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Very well then. Brighten the highlight on tail- if you use them, of course. If not, then lighten the part where the highlight would be 01:29, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Nope, no highlights on this one, but I lightened that part. XD ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  01:41, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Bumblestripe (W) - Tweaked
I tried....o.0 OA is Night Shine, tweaked by Rainlegs. Sky- Stop right there criminal  scum! 18:05, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes to look more natural. Looks better than it used to. 18:21, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Sky- Stop right there criminal  scum! 18:39, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the stripes and add more aend define them. 20:54, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. `Sky- Stop right there criminal  scum! 21:14, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

I meant blur the stripes to look furry. ^^; 23:07, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. xD I'll try. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 23:12, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

You don't have to. I just think they'd look better like that. 23:14, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Too late. BD <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 23:33, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken/define the shading. 23:48, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Am I allowed to? I'm only really meant to be doing the stripes. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 23:50, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

It states in the guidelines that you're only supposed to do what's supposed to be tweaked. You don't have to do it. 23:52, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

And the tweak page states that the stripes needed to be redone. 01:07, October 21, 2011 (UTC

The stripes look very unrealistic. You might want to try re-doing them, the furry thing is a bit off. 20:38, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Alos enlargen the ear pink more and also darken it. I know ear pink can be a pain.... 20:50, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink looks fine Sandstorm. Maybe smudge the stripe on the head a bit more if you keep the stripes this way though. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  22:35, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 01:20, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes, or texture, looks like it's half smudged half blurred. In other words, I think you should emphasize and smudge it a bit more. If you're using GIMP, I suggest the shift filter. :D 01:25, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I gave what Atelda said a try. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 01:39, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Either blur it or smudge it more. <span style="">01:50 Sat Oct 22

Re-uploaded. Image of evil. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 01:56, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Webfoot (W) ~ Redone
OA was Nightshine; redone as a shorthair. 23:03, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. Excellent job, Misty. 23:21, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Re-Uploaded.' 23:22, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes, darken the ear pink, shading, and the strpe on the haunches are a bit messy. Mind fixing the smaller, longer stripe? 23:28, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Wouldnt it much be easier to put the shorthair lineart over the old one...? Oh well, theres cut-off lineart on the bottom of the foot and Icestorm I think the stripes are defined enough ^^ - 23:47, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I suck at layers, so I just redid it. And, I fixed the lineart and the stripe. 23:49, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lets be honest people, we all want an original image, you know, so this is our chance! Anyway, nice job, blur the shading on the neck. 00:21, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 00:32, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

This is lovely, but since I reserved his elder first, shouldn't I be the one to do all his images? I was intending just to just layer the lineart over his old image - I can do it. I'm not saying you should ditch this image and revert it or anything, especially 'cause you copied the old stripe pattern, but does that mean you get to redo all of his images or can I just layer the lineart over all of them instead of having you redo them all? <span style="">02:54 Fri Oct 21

Oops, sorry! I didn't mean to steal it. Since I just copied the old stripes, I think you can just do the lineart things on the elder version, and just tweak the spots, since I...don't do spots on tabbies. 22:34, October 21, 2011 (UTC) Darken the eyes a bit. This is pretty! ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  22:36, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

I dont think you can put the elder lineart over, Wildheart because the two are different...I mean the head are shaped differently, and so is everything else :\ - 22:39, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

No, I meant putting hte elder lineart over the elder version. Re-Uploaded. 21:42, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

No, I mean the two elder linearts (longhair and shorthair) they're slightly different 22:46, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. Wildheart's good at charart; if she can't do the lineart, she can probably redo the elder version anyway, or just tweak the lineart. 22:49, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know why, but most of your chararts look a little blotchy to me O_o. Blur the earpink. 23:17, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, wrong image, darken the tail shading instead. 23:20, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

The tail shading is just as dark as the body shading. If I darken it, they won't match. 23:25, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay awesome no I wasn't accusing you of stealing it I was just worried about consistency XD I'll manage for layering the lineart. Thanks, Misty. Blur the earpink a tad. <span style="">00:51 Sat Oct 22

Also - is it just me, or do the bottoms of the feet seem cut off? If you compare the old image with the new image... <span style="">01:54 Sat Oct 22

It looks like that to me too, also it looks like the lineart on the head looks doubled. O.o. Otherwise, no less than awesome! :D 01:59, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Honeyfern (W) Tweaked
- I changed her strpes because they were unrealistic and adde better mottles and tweaked the shading. Icethroat = OA, I tweaked it, and now I tweaked it again., 23:22, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear-pink. 11:27, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Much better! Could you darken the whole thing a tad though so she's more light brown than cream? Andmaybe ad another stripe or two the the very top of the shoulder/back, it looks kind of empty there.Also, I think the earpink is dark enough Silvereye, but it does need to be brightened and maybe defined a bit. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  16:37, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Add more shading onto the tail. 19:44, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Define the mottles on the tail, face, and forelegs. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 00:54, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Halftail (W) ~ Tweaked
Ok, so the original artist was Nightfall, and it was said that he needed patchy fur even as a warrior, plus it needs to match the elder I did as the colors didn't match. I took all the colors I used from his elder image, and again, thickened the stripes and shading. So, comments? 23:36, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Wow good job! maybe darken the shading on the patches 23:47, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think he was described with patches of fur missing as a warrior. If they said "patchy fur" they might have meant that he has patches of different colored fur. 13:46, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

No, usually it means patches of fur missing. This should stay up. this is what Patchy fur has always meant, and plenty of chararts got patches of fur missing when they were described with patchy fur. And usually it's only elders that are described like that, so I'm pretty sure this is what it meants. Redden the earpink a bit. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  16:44, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but that's not the only way patchy can be interpreted. Patchy can mean messy or it could mean that he has patches of different colored fur. It doesn't have to mean he's missing patches of fur. And where in Bluestar's Prophecy does it say he's got patchy fur as a warrior, anyway? 22:20, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. True, "patchy fur" can be interpreted in a number of ways, but here we define it as patches of fur missing. If it is messy fur, often say something specific, like Tanglewhisker or Thistleclaw. Different color of fur is often described as "patches of ginger" specifically pointing out the color. I can always erase the patchy fur, but this still needs to match his elder version. 22:44, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. Nice job. 16:57, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Whitewing (Q) - Redone
The slots go poof. Anyway, I redid this back in the summer and I realize the shading is way to light an unnatural. So here it is, re-redone. I'm telling you now, white cats, are a little hard to do :P OA was Darkmoon25. Guh, I hate the shading xP And since I have nothing on the main page, I can put up two, correct? 03:33, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and add some to the back. 11:28, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

This isn't the correct version, Silvereye. For once I thought I didn't have to say it :P Check the image history. 17:00, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the eyes a ton, they're really dark right now, and either lighten the base coat, or lighten the shading a bit, cause she looks a bit gray. Nice job Splashy! ^^ ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  21:44, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Remove some of the shading from the face, there's a little too much :P 22:27, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 22:51, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. File history. 02:43, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink less purple. 16:56, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded. Hm, it was light pink before, but I lightened it some. Need I say where the changes most likely are? 17:23, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Fuzzypelt (E) - Redone
I got permission to redo this. Don't worry, I'm gonna hold back on the redoing for my next couple images. :P I've been slightly obsessed with just tweaking images lately, so I've just got to post the ones that I redid that are sitting on my comp now. XD Anyways, his lineart needed to be redone, it was just too..... poofy. No offence to the OA. The earpink needed to be smaller, he needed to be lightened ever so slightly, and his highlights needed to be darkened. OA was Darkhallows I think. And the limit was moved up to 25 today, so this IS under the limit. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:22, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, great lineart you got there :P maybe make some tufts smaller & bigger, and make some of the fur actually stand up? (not all of them though) Also move some of the fur closer and faraway cause it loks like theres always the same amount of space between them.You dont really hav to do this though, since I cant find anything else wrong :3 01:27, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, the fur's supposed to be like that. I made it like that on purpose, it didn't really look fuzzy otherwise. Just poofy and fluffy. And that's what I was trying to fix in redoing this. XD ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  01:37, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Sorry bout that. Its just that in his description he has "fur that stands on end" and I tried to imagine him....looking like that XD So, yep. Great image by the way 01:47, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Loudbelly (E) - Redone
Decided to do a solid, plus I like his name xD He needed to be longhaired, OA was Sandstar12, Bramble, and Nightfall101 (I'm guessing the latter tweaked this). And YES, I used highlights for this so he would match his elder. Comments for improvement? 01:49, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Great job Ivystripe! ^^ Well since you used highlights in this, could you either brighten or add the highlights on the face? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:52, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded thanks ^^ And I hope it's placed correctly, as I'm kind of in new territory with highlight placement. 01:58, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

They look fine to me. Blur the earpink. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 01:59, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

I like his name too. xD Define the earpink just a teensy bit. 12:15, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

It may just be my eyes, but I think there is blurred lineart on the back and head. And blur the haunch highlight. 12:32, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

That is just your head, no blurring was done on the lineart layer. 14:35, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, sorry Ivy. 16:56, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Sunstar (L) ~ Tweaked
Just added the torn ear. OA was Goldencloud. Comments? 03:25, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

This is gorgeous! Make the earpink less brown. 12:30, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Thanks, but should I change it? I just made the ear torn. :P 14:47, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

You don't have to if it doesn't say to. :3 <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 14:48, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't he be tweaked to be bright ginger instead of yellow. His charart doesn't really match his description. I know he wasn't listed for this, but I was gonna list it, I just didn't get a chance to before you posted it. *has a big list of things to add to that page right now* ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  15:58, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

No, he looks fine to me. He was listed for only the torn ear soo... - 16:17, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I'm sorry Ivy. I didn't even read the description. Stupid me.. xP 16:55, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Harveymoon (W) ~ Tweaked
All I did was add the collar. I am not touching anything else, got it? 03:52, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

The collar looks sort of painted on (not trying to be mean), make the line of the back come out of the lineart a bit to give it depth, and add/define the shading on it to make it stand out some. 03:55, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

And I think it should be rainbow, like the kittypet. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 03:56, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't even SEE the kittypet one, honestly. I BLAME ATELDA. She told me to make it purple. Also, there IS shading on the collar. 03:59, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pfft, purple is awesome, it is, just get rid of the waste that's around the outside...yeah...Purple rules! 04:03, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Since you're going with teh purple, there's like, a lighter white thing surrounding the collar. <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 10:51, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Redwillow (W) ~ Redone
...eh. Not real proud of this one. Anyways, OA was Maplefern, and the whole thing needed so much done to it, I couldn't work with the original image. The shading needed blurring, he needed stripes...need I go on? Critique it, and I'll fix it when I get up in a few hours... 04:48, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Just fix up the waste and darken the shading some, looks amazing, and way better then the original :D 04:57, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink less red. 12:29, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Scourge (Ki) - Tweaked
I tweaked it only because his rogue version have the white paw on the..ehm left side and kit on the right..I change it and redone shadings and hightlights, I dont know who OA was but i think its Mosswisker&Stealthfire Leaf-storm,13:35,October 22,2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights. Nice job! 15:37, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded - Leaf-storm,17:38,October 22,2011 (UTC)

Ice (R) ~ Tweaked
Just tweaked the shading. OA was Honeyfur with a small tweak by Ivystripe. Comments? 15:50, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Could you blur and redden the earpink? Also, I think I've heard it mentioned a couple times that we were gonna tweak him to have claws like Scourge and Bone. Could you do that? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  16:01, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Was he shown with a collar in the manga? Cause how did he get a colar if he was a rogue and not a kittypet at all? <font face="Maiandra GD" siz="2" color="black" >Sky- Stop right there criminal <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="Orange"> scum! 16:28, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

The rogues with the collars are BloodClan cats, unless otherwise stated. 16:53, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular too. 16:53, October 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing