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Silt (Ro) - For Approval
Sooo, here's the charart and stuff... 21:33, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe smooth out the shading on the tail and legs Shypaw11 (talk) 23:02, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded ^-^ 23:22, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

it should be rogue for the file name not rouge. 23:45, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps even out the texture a tad -- it kinda looks stripey

Define the light on the legs. 23:50, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the main body some more? 14:06, 10/30/2016

Reuploaded Smoothed out shading, added actual lighting, changed file name. 15:46, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading, and check for shading leakage on the legs

Reuploaded 18:29, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

add shading depth (on the head, tail, body especially).

I think the light on the legs still needs to be defined more. Add the light on the very fronts of the legs. Also on the tail some. 01:35, 10/31/2016

The texture looks kind of like stripes more than texture, if that makes sense. Thin out the lines and/or smooth them more. It should also follow the form of the body more and if at all possible, the light source. Some people feel that adding deeper texture to shaded areas will make it too dark, though. Just a suggestion on how to make it more obvious that it is indeed texture. If you need any clarification, let me know. Sometimes what I type out can seem vague and scrambled, seeing as it is during breaks between my daily life and I kind of just fire it out as I come up with it. 23:02 Mon Oct 31

Reuploaded Best I can do, I'm not very good >.< 01:41, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

smooth out the texture somemore, it still looks like stripes. make it more softer looking as —  Minkclaw   01:54, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading on body and tail especially

Reuploaded 23:11, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

The shading around the belly and ==> hind leg is a little blotchy so smoothen/blur it out. --  20:25, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded 14:27, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Make sure the image is full size when you upload it. In addition, the image looks really grey overall. Can you define the light on the face, legs, and tail? 00:05, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Baaassically redid the whole shading. 19:21, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

The shading is leaking away from the lineart on the body and legs, also maybe define the light on the tail.

Re-uploaded 14:58, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Comments? 03:20, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Define the leg shading. 03:38, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Shading is leaking everywhere away from the lineart, especially on legs/face/body. Also perhaps define the light on the tail, since it looks like it's completely in shadow

Eyes and nose spots are empty.

No, the eyes and muzzle are not empty.^^ 21:51, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, so prepare for the wall of text :P Sorry in advance. The shading on the legs, especially the ones on the right side of the cat, need to be thinned out and placed only on one side, depending on your light source. Which in turn, also means to define the light source. The shading on the tail should be on the other side, since the source is coming from <== direction; the light needs to be on the top. Also, define the shading depth a tiny bit. 22:05, 11/10/2016

Reuploaded ouo  16:35, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 21:41, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry should have commented earlier, I was just busy working. There is waste by the muzzle, and the shading is still leaking slightly on the legs and underbelly. 21:47, 11/11/2016

Perhaps define the light on the <-- front paw just a tad

Reuploaded welp 00:15, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Got help from Winter/Snowdapple 16:32, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Quailkit (Ki) - For Evaluation
This was my first time trying a charart, I hope its alright. ill try to fix the things but anyone can tweak if they like! Winterpaw I'm unleashed...Run.

So, I changed the title to headings. It should also say "Quailkit (Ki) ~ For Evaulation~. And smudge the white on the belly a little more.-- 00:04, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Definte the shading on the belly, and the fur a bit. And the ear pink doesn't show that much. 00:05, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

And also, take the alignments off too. Like, the "thumb" and "left" in the image. -- 00:06, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I switched the heading to '~ For Evaluation' since it's supposed to be that way for a first image until a lead changes it. I also think the white shouldn't be as big, since it's only supposed to be on the belly, and not the chest area

'''​Reupload - i made the white smaller, did a little shading, and made the ears pinker. '  Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 00:27, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I don't want to be a jerk but, this needs to be named Quailkit.kit.png, not just Kit.png Shypaw11 (talk) 02:01, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

There is waste around all the body. 02:04, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

'''Reupload - I removed surrounding waste and renamed the file and added more things and made the patch more circle. how does it become approved again'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 03:26, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

The nose hole is empty, you might want to fill that in with a light pink color. --Xaviapaw 

The white should only be on the underbelly. Only put it between the legs. 14:05, 10/30/2016

Define the shading, and also the earpink color doesn't match the other image.

What other image? Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 17:12, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Her StarClan image has to match this one.

Was that image even approved? - Jose1106 (talk) 19:31, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so...its not on the page, and Quailkit is a he...   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:48, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload - shading, made the white smaller, made ears more like picture (if that picture is even approved) and made the nose better.   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:57, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Define shading. Are you using Gaussian blur? --  21:31, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

add shading on the legs, head, and add more depth to the eyes. you can refer to the tutorials for more help.

Reuploaded. Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 02:09, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

The senior warriors are inactive right now, please be patient. With the skills you have, I'm sure you'll be promoted in no time, and onto the critique: 1. Firstly, define your light source. Have a specific direction of light hitting the image in mind while shading the image: thats how we perceive shading in the first place. 2. Try to make the shading more visible to the audience. right now you can hardly see it in the way that it would define the shape and build of a cat. 3. The white chest looks unnaturally slapped onto the image, give it a blur/smudge depending on your preference.

Since you're being pushy about becoming an apprentice, I'm making this stay at "for evaluation". You do not decide when you are ready to become an apprentice, the leads do. I don't know who told you that anyone can do it, but they are very misinformed.

Ok, I'll try to fox up the shading, and I think the light is coming from the right, hitting the back. And hmm, the white, I'll try smudging it, but when I tried it it loved very pixelated and wrong, but maybe I can fix that.

Sorry for being pushy, I was impatient. I didn't mean to offend anyone and I know that was annoying. For the information, I just read on the guidelines that once you complete an image 50% you can become an apprentice, but idk. Sorry again! Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:01, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

The leads decide when an image is halfway complete, not you. You may think it is, but there are leads, just as there are in the warriors world. That's why we have senior warriors, a deputy, and a leader. 20:12, 10/31/2016

Define the eye depth (add more darker and lighter colors) and the earpink a bit. And apologies if this counts as repeating a comment, but there appears to be absolutely no shading on the white. At all. If there is, it needs to be defined a lot. 22:57 Mon Oct 31

'''Reupload - thanks for all the suggestions guys, I hope its getting better. once again, sorry Snowed for how I acted. I hope this pic looks better now!'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 00:04, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Define light source^^ Right now, it just seems that there's a ring of extra color touching the lineart, but the shading should only be where light doesn't hit.

What do you mean? Could you explain more? :D   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 22:13, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

It looks better than the last time :). I see your light source much more clearly than before. However, a couple of more things to consider:

1. The shading doesn't seem to cover the parts where it's supposed to cover, aka its "leaking" away from the linear art as people here call it. By this i mean that there are random lighter patches I see visible in the shading. To fix this, just simply go to the layer and give the edge of the linear art a trace where the shading is drawn.

2. Try to darken the shading to make it more visible. It's kind of eye straining to see it. Also, when you do that, it might look a little hard edged, so give it a little blur.

3. Try and get the shading to look more defined. By this I mean that the shading should form visible shapes rather than be blurred all over the image. For reference, take a look at the shadows casted around you right now to see what I mean when shading is a defined shape.

4. Try using a low opacity eraser tool to erase the edge of the white underbelly slightly, as right now it seems to be leaking.

13:38, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

'''Reupload - thanks guys, especially fox girl, that was great advice. hope its better now!'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 23:17, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

I still really can't see the shading, and can only tell that there's a slight difference between it and the base. Would you perhaps darken/define it some?

Reupload Winterpaw: I  am  a  true Monster

Define and darken the shading a bit more. 00:06, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  01:52, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Could you please define/darken the shading? I really can't see it at all on my screen.

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  00:41, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Blur/smudge in the shading a tad.

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  00:39, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

Shading's leaking away from the lineart on the --> back paw, and also, maybe smooth the belly white some.

The shading needs to be defined everywhere but on the side of the cat, which means define it on the legs, tail, and head respectively. I see virtually none at all where there should be some. Also, it looks like there's darker dapples all over the image, and since he's only described as a solid color, he doesn't get any, so remove those. 22:10, 11/10/2016

Reuploaded Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  22:44, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Get rid of the pale tail-tip. <span style="">23:31, 11/10/2016

Reupload Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  03:45, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading. 21:41, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  22:58, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Fallowfern (E) ~ For Approval
i like only the eyes —  Minkclaw   19:12, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit on the haunches? Looks good man 19:14, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Give the shading more shape; it doesn't really have that right now and looks like it's also leaking away from the lineart almost everywhere.

Re-Upps, thanks Man —  Minkclaw   01:21, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Do you use Gaussian blur? I highly recommend never using that. It's better to blur it with the blur tool itself that the Gaussian blur, because it can make the shading leak away from the lineart a lot, in which case it is doing so here. The blob in the middle of the image, specifically. Could you perhaps fix that up a little? The shading is leaking onto the back leg's knee, which shouldn't have shading on it. Also the tail-tip shouldn't have any shading on it, and that is leaking onto the front leg. And maybe get rid of the shading on the back leg right under the tail too, as that wouldn't be in shading either. <span style="">03:34, 11/03/2016

Re-Upps, well I had to cope with the stuff I could use on Pixlr as my current program was somehow messing up. The shading on the leg by the tail, the back one, was supposed to be there.—  Minkclaw   11:34, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't see any difference? <span style="">13:55, 11/03/2016

I removed the shading from the tail tip and paw as well as the hind leg. I see it. —  Minkclaw   14:03, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

There's still shading on the tail-tip that needs to be removed, and I can still see shading on the hing leg. <span style="">14:47, 11/03/2016

The hind leg is supposed to be there as it would be hidden in shadow by her tail and body. I 'll remove the tail shading later. —  Minkclaw   15:29, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

No, not the hind leg leg, I meant the bend in the knee by the blob on the middle. <span style="">15:31, 11/03/2016

Hm..the elbow looking thing, I'll remove that —  Minkclaw   15:34, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

lighten, expand, and blur the shading 17:36, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps —  Minkclaw   22:37, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Expand the shading - it looks more like a stripe atm, imo. <span style="">09:48, 11/07/2016

can I get second on that as it does not, there are several other elders with this light and shading source. —  Minkclaw   15:09, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Shading is leaking a tiny bit on the belly.

I'd think expanding the shading slightly wouldn't hurt, just so it could be a bit more of a gradient. That might help add some shading depth to the image, which I think it needs

Xavia, there is no stomach shading, thats behind the elbow..—  Minkclaw   15:02, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

I apologize, I was mistaken.

Mink that is the stomach. <span style="">05:16, 11/10/2016

well could I get a second on the the stomach thing, as I don't particularly see the leaking but I could be wrong. —  Minkclaw   15:31, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

It is leaking. Could you also smooth out the shading along the back and rump? <span style="">15:47, 11/10/2016

I'd say expand the shading too; it looks like there's barely any at all.

and add shading on her front leg. 23:13, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Parsleyseed (W) - For Approval
I'm pretty happy with this. Thoughts? Jayie Just yo u wait~ 02:48, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Wow Jayie, it's literally just amazing. I don't know if this is a problem or anything, but maybe make the tail stripes less blended in and maybe just a tad thinner to make it more like the others, and blend the shading so it doesn't overlayer the tail a bit??? Also, idk maybe blend the lighter chest part into the darker brown a bit more? Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">I <span style="color:#ff80aa;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">am <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">a <span style="color:#ff80aa;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">true <span style="color:#993399;font-family:CopperPlate;font-size:12px;background:Black;border:2px solid black;border-radius:1em;">Monster

Thanks. :) The tail stripes are thicker because that's how they are on the apprentice image, but I can thin them out a little to make them match better. I'm not sure what you mean by "overlayering" the tail, could you explain that more? And I think the lighter chest matches the apprentice well (the lighter fur is harder to see on that one because of how the shading is placed), but I dunno. Jayie  Just yo u wait~ 04:48, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Reuplaoded. Thinned out the tail stripes a little, and also darkened the shading a bit. Jayie Just yo u wait~ 20:02, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

By overshadowing, I mean that the shading on the trial is just a little bit too dark that I can't see the stripes or designs on it, up that's just my opinion, it's not necessary. :D Winterpaw:  <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster 22:34, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

I think it looks fine^^

Looking at his apprentice image, it looks like his paws on that one are a bit lighter compared to the rest of the body. I'm not sure if that's just light or if it's actually lighter colored though. <span style="">04:23 Mon Nov 7

Define the shading on the two back paws.

Reuploaded. I defined the shading on the back legs. His paws do have lighter fur along the back edge, which is easily visible on the apprentice due to the lighting. However, since the shadow is along that back edge with this light source, that's why the lighter fur is harder to see on this one. Jayie Just yo u wait~ 05:15, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

The left tail stripes look a bit red compared to Parsleyseed's apprentice image.

I used all of the same colors for him as on the apprentice, except for the shading and highlights. It's probably the highlights making it look a little redder, but the base colors are all still the same. Is that alright, or should I tweak it? Jayie Just yo u wait~ 06:21, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

I personally think it should be just a little more black, but it's your choice. C: Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  17:54, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

More black? Why black? Jayie Just yo u wait~ 20:35, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Idk I think it's fine^^ It matches well enough even with the highlights, which are a really nice touch btw

Livy (KP) - For Approval
06:44, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

She looks more cream than white.. was that intentional?

Re-uploaded It was partially intentional but I also forgot to drop the opacity on the texture... 18:04, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

You mind defining the shading on the collar? I like the tint tbh.

Re-uploaded 06:51, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

maybe define the tail shading? this is nice as 19:22, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 03:23, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Thin out the shading a tad and it seems to be leaking near the neck. 03:28, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Can you define the shading depth a tad? <span style="">22:17, 11/10/2016

Re-uploaded 01:54, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Hawkwing (D) ~ For Approval
wip. I tried to match the other one's texture but I don't know if it matches.

Define the shading. 03:28, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded

It might just be me, but the shading seems to be too defined in some spots on the legs. Could you possibly smooth those out some? <span style="">22:17, 11/10/2016

Reuploaded I tried, but I don't know if it helped much.

Reuploaded Tweaking a few things

Nami (KP) - For Approval
I love this. <span style="">16:08 Fri Nov 11

Blur the stripes; they seem very hard-edged. 18:19, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

can u define the shading a lil 20:06, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Lavenderkit (Star) ~ For Approval
Kits with unique names all died.. 18:06, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Wow that looks amazing! You're a talented artist. And also yeah, that's because they're all the dead kits that didn't have names so new, nice names were slapped on. :P I don't mind them though. Anyways, I'm not even sure what to say, maybe smoothen out the tail shading a bit? Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I am  a  true Monster  20:38, November 11, 2016

Also, this should be crossed out on the characters needing art page. Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I am  a  true Monster

There seems to be flecks of black in her eyes. - Jose1106 (talk) 21:58, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Winterpaw, it truly does not matter if they're crossed out or not. Users can use ctrl+F and find it on the table if it's already been reserved. That page is really only there to say which characters need the art. <span style="">04:12, 11/12/2016

Oh, I thought it was required to be crossed out if you're working on it. Sorry, my mistake. Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I am  a  true Monster

Re-ups 20:02, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Luna(KP) - For Evaluation
Джулия де Мортон (talk) 13:59, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Get rid of every other white thing except for the tail-tip. Unless specifically stated to have other white points, we follow our tortoiseshell rule here. Also don't align your images. <span style="">14:01, 11/12/2016

And this image needs to be renamed to File:Luna.kittypet.png <span style="">14:04, 11/12/2016

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 14:42, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Can you brighten the tail-tip? It looks a little too gray to me. <span style="">14:42, 11/12/2016

define the shading on the legs and tmake the brown a little less green looking. 15:59, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:09, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Do you mind smudging the brown and ginger a bit?

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:50, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the tail and legs? 02:57, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 05:41, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Fidgetpaw (MC) - For Approval
I finally decided on something I like. For those who don't think I can do this, I've already done this before without any objections.

I love it, Cloudy! It suits his name :) Even out the ear-pink size and smudge the pelt into the ear-pink a touch more. Maybe also add more light to the lifted paw; the white looks a litle too gray 22:54, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

can you define the shading a bit my guy 00:23, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Plumclaw (Star) - For Approval
Color-picked from apprentice image. Comments? 16:36, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading; it ends a bit too abruptly and should be a gradient-like feeling if you're only blurring the shading.

Reupload  16:59, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps lighten the head, it looks darker than the rest of the body. - Jose1106 (talk) 23:34, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

That's probably just how dark the shading is.. I think it's okay.

Perhaps expand the body shading very slightly, and define the shading on the <-- paw since I can't really see it on my screen.

Maybe add a bit of shading to <--- shoulder? It looks kind of flat without any. 02:56, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload  03: 51, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Spikefur (Ro) ~ For Approval
All colors from his other images. Comments? 17:21, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Where is your light source coming from? The shading around the torso is sort of confusing me of where the light shines on the cat.

I think it's fine, as I've used this lightsource on other images (namely Slate's rogue image). 01:26, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Loner art for Cherrytail (and joining the group XD)
Hi Im Cloudheart100, you can call me Cloudheart though. I was wondering if we should make loner character art for Cherrytail. I guess I should ask to the join the group though first XD. So I would try to be availble every day even though I have school. Anyways Bye.:D

CloudHeart100 (talk) 18:15, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Wrong talk page. Post here. <span style="">19:30, 11/12/2016

Max (KP) - For Approval
Tbh, I think I do best on brown cats. Yes, I am aware that the shading is pretty dark, though I can still see the lineart on it.

Define the shading...it's almost invisible. 19:51, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Pebbleshine (W) ~ For Approval
Eh --Cheetahfur (talk) 02:10, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Is there a way you could possibly make the pixels look less grainy? 02:11, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

I know this is probably a difficult pattern to shade, but can you maybe define the shading a bit? 02:52, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Do you want the .psd? You are close, but the markings and colors are a tad bit difficult to tell because of layers/layer modes. I am the OA of the apprentice (first in the set) and the dapples on this are actually a little too soft. <span style="">03:02 Sun Nov 13

Add the pupil. <span style="">04:33, 11/13/2016


 * Does he have an eye color? 09:11, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Mistcloud (Ro) ~ For Approval
02:32, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Floofer kitters! Can you define the depth a tad? <span style="">04:33, 11/13/2016

reuploaded shouldve been hedgehogkit 13:16, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Pebbleshine (Ki) ~ For Approval
Holy pattern. Sunjaw, how do you do these things? <span style="">04:31, 11/13/2016

Fernpaw (TAQ) (Alt A) ~ For Approval
11:58, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Filou (KP) ~ For Approval
My first kittypet. - Jose1106 (talk) 12:37, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Can you smooth out or smudge the stripes? They're a bit too defined. <span style="">13:58, 11/13/2016