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Deputy Blanks - For Approval
having trouble with the tails :// 22:18 Sun Jan 24

I can give you a redline if youd like splook? Also the back legs feet are bothering me. Perhaps i can show you what would look best in the redline as well? 22:54, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Tip for the tails, most of the time a cats tail will curl away from their body or lie flat on the ground 23:09, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

I suck at explaining things, so here. I can't quite figure out how to explain how to fix the legs though, and I can't figure out a redline for it. idk 23:34, 01/24/2016

Make the hind paws thicker and the knees should be more well-rounded.

A few suggestions, feel free to ignore them.  17:51 Wed Jan 27 

the blanks are a little too small --Belllastar (talk) 00:21, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

No, they're not. o.o They're about the same size as many of the other blanks we have on here.

The necks look thin to me. However, only tweak it if you feel that you need to. — ☆ ﻿paper  ·  finches  ★  17:54, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded. I did a whole new tail placement that was suggested. I think it's working for the shorthaired, but does the longhair look alright? 02:13 Sun Jan 31

It looks fine to me^^ but I think you can add some more tufts on the back of the tail?

The way the fur swoops up on the chest of the long-haired looks a little too cartoonish compared to the other blanks, at least in my opinion. Consider smoothing that out/making it more realistically fluffy, if that makes sense? It looks cool, don't get me wrong, I just don't think it fits the style of the other blanks. Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:08, February 2, 2016 (UTC)

Could you add more "fur lines" on the long hair's tail?

Define the shoulder more and add some more to the lower jaw? 07:05, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

This isn't meant to rush you, but here's a reminder to upload the blanks! I know you're busy, but giving the section a nudge wouldn't hurt... I think. =P Given that you are not bound by the one-week upload limit, this is nothing other than a courtesy or something. I'd say "friendly reminder", but that's usually used in a mocking tone, and you know that's not what I mean.

reuploaded. my apologies with the delay. my new classes for the semester keep me busy on weeknights. 01:06 Sat Feb 6

Comments before approval? 08:40, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

The gap between the hind leg and the hind foot reminds me too much of a rabbit... 09:10, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

The curved line at the shoulder looks akward can I ask why it is there? 14:56, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

The hindlegs of both the short-haired and long-haired have different lengths to them. I suggest fixing them so they match?

I'm sorry for the massive nitpicky comment, but could you make the shoulder a bit wider, thin out the lines on the front toes some (and maybe shorten them),move the toe on the back foot backwards a tiny bit, move the far back leg forward a bit, make the close haunch attach to the leg a bit lower down, add a tiny bit more fluff to the bottom of the longhair's chest and haunch, make the far front foot a little wider, shorten the shorthair tail a tad, make the gap between the upper and lower whisker a bit wider and make the back of the heads attach to the neck a bit higher up (or the jaw a bit lower)? If you don't get what I mean, I'll gladly give a redline to show you. Most of this is optional.  16:01 Sat Feb 6 

It doesn't look like a rabbit, Sagestream, and if it does, can you please tell her what to do, instead of just telling her what you think it looks like? 19:32, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

A redline would be really helpful, Shinx :) Sometimes I get lost on what to do from just reading the text 19:34 Sat Feb 6

Alright, then i think maybe you should shorten the gap between the leg and the foot. it just looks a bit awkward. 02:58, February 7, 2016 (UTC)

I already said that Sage :P Anyway, hope this helps.  10:53 Sun Feb 7 

I think the tail could be raised a few pixels up on the back of the cat, and the neck needs to be thickened a bit ( http://prntscr.com/a1872f ), and the raised paw should be backed up a few pixels and made smaller. The tum could be dropped a pixel or two, and the ears made a bit neater. The longhair should probably have long fur all the way up to the chin too, as well as the shoulder being fuzzy. 23:45, 02/9/2016

reuploaded. thanks so much, i think they look a lot better now. 02:41 Tue Feb 16

Comments before approval? 03:59, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Add white to the chararts so they look like the other blanks. Great job! ^_^

Sorry for bothering you again but could you add a little bit more fluff to the bottom of the longhair's chest while you're at it? Just one or two lines will do.  16:58 Tue Feb 16 

Can I ask why the blanks have to be white? 17:29 16/2/16

It's just below the lineart, Velvet. All of the other blanks have that, so I don't see why these shouldn't. That can be added afterwards, though. And I said the same thing on Skype that I'm gonna say now, the feet are a bit too... flat, for lack of a better word. Using what Berry also said to me, a cat usually walks on their toes, so the only way they'd be completely flat is if they're sitting.

As I said on Skype, the picture Splook based this off has the cat in the exact same pose with her legs on the ground. In fact, my cats' legs are on the ground when she's asking for food in the same position. :/ 04:29, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

The back legs would be up in the air a little bit, as per Skye. Cats do in fact walk on their toesies. 12:47, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Also sorry foe edit spam but the whiskers that are going <== this way off the blank sre bothering me, since the other whiskers are flat against the side of the face. Basically get rid of those whiskers 12:49, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

I think the back legs are fine. I have seen my cat and if you google images of a cat you will find some in this position or with their feet in that position. Just because it's not common doesn't make it inaccurate. 21:03, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Exactly, Velvet. You bring up an amazing point. Anyways, here's a picture of the legs Splook used: They're not on their toes. Splook's legs are fine. 01:37, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

If someone would like to argue the opposite, may you please draw a redline and show me what it would look like if the legs were altered? 02:05 Thu Feb 18

No, you don't need to change it becuase it's fine. I provided proof that cats legs cna look like it and in general, they can. 02:06, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Hey now, chill. She asked for a redline to see what they'd look like, and there's nothing wrong with that. If she chooses to not do so after the redline is given, then that's fine. But since she did ask for one to support the argument against her, then I think she should be given one. (I can't redline, sorry)

I'm not particularly bothered what happens with the back legs, but is this what you guys had in mind?  15:18 Thu Feb 18 

I can do a redline later, but for now, I'd agree with what others are saying and say that something with the back legs needs to be changed. Yes, cats can lower themselves entirely on the "heel" of their leg (for lack of a better term). But the upper part of the leg would be more stretched out if that were the case, because if the rear is that high in the air, the leg needs to stretch out to compensate for the lower part of the leg being on the ground. You can see it in the picture Icy provided; yes, the lower leg is all on the ground, and you can see how the rear end doesn't appear to be low to the ground, but closer to even with the shoulders. But you can see how the "thigh" (I really don't know the proper words for cat anatomy) is stretch out, not rounded and curled up like drawn here, because it has to stretch out to account for the height lost from the lower leg being on the ground. I probably rambled too much and didn't explain myself very clearly, but I'll do a redline later that will hopefully make what I'm trying to say here clearer. ^^ That, or you could go the direction that Shinx is suggesting and take the lower leg off the ground entirely, so you can keep the bend to the upper leg. Jayie Unwritten words~ 21:51, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Almost a week later. XD http://www.ezimba.com/work/160224C/ezimba11244534222500.png Here's a redline for the legs/back. But I'm not sure I did it totally right. Splook, could you post a link to the full picture you used for a reference, by chance? It might help me figure out how to redline it better, if I can see how low down the back was and such. Anyway, if not, hope this helps. ^^ Jayie  Unwritten words~ 17:11, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

If I'm allowed to ask what's wrong with the old deputy blanks?— Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 17:12, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Anatomy issues, mostly. There was a vote on whether or not to redo them and it passed.  <span style="">17:44 Tue Feb 23 

Uhh... I've been thinking about trying to do some of the deputy poses, even though I'm just a kit, so now I'm wondering: are these blanks actually done? I'm having trouble telling XD --Warriorcat1195 (talk) 21:17, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Nope, they're still waiting for be approved.  <span style="">21:26 Wed Feb 24 

They aren't approved yet so /please/ don't rush her. She's also uploading it tonight anyways. 15:11, February 25, 2016 (UTC)

I'm gonna be "that person", but these really do need to be uploaded soon. She's only uploaded twice in February, and while I understand that life can be hell, only uploading twice in a 30 day period isn't quite the best thing. It's not fair to anyone to just have these sit without any activity. Sorry if this is coming off as rude, but I do have a job to do as leader.

reuploaded. Used Jayie's technique with the leg, hope it's fine.

Alright, I deeply apologize for the lack of uploads, but I am really busy. I am swamped with bookwork and studying every single night, and frankly, the wiki is the last thing on my mind at the moment. I know how eager you guys are to do art, and I'm sorry that it's taking this long, but I'm trying my best. I'm not trying to preach at how busy I am or whatever, nor am I defending myself for not uploading, but I'm really trying to cope with all my schoolwork, home things, and this responsibility. I'm working to get these approved, and I'm not going to give up, so please bare with me.

Once again, very sorry, and I'm trying my hardest to go in some sort of direction with the back leg. <span style="">01:53 Tue Mar 1

I'm sure I'll relate to you next year, and I'm scared. But aside from the hind leg being too flat (I wouldn't think that'd be a difficult) I think it looks perfectly fine. Warriorcat1195 (talk) 01:56, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean by "too flat"? It's on the ground and she was using the examples the others gave her. 02:00, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to all of this conversation. I just read some of this, so, uh, nvm (shy chuckle)Warriorcat1195 (talk) 02:20, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

The angle of the lower leg is definitely better. :)Though the lower leg seems too thin now compared to the front legs. The hip is still too rounded - with how stretched out it is, it should be less filled out, and the line should be flatter. I can do another redline for the shorthair, but I show what I meant for that on the longhair redline. The belly line is too far up on both blanks; there isn't enough room to fit the cat's ribcage and belly. Lower it, and make it jut up less on the longhair, if that makes sense. Again, I show it in my redline, but I can redo it/do one for the shorthair/explain myself more clearly if you want. If it's possible, I would really like to see the image you used as a reference (the full image, not the partial image of the legs that Icy posted). It would really help if I could see what you were trying to reference to be able to explain my critiques. I hope that made sense... Jayie  Unwritten words~ 05:29, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

The back legs are not anatomically correct at all tbh. I sent you a redline on skype splook. Also remove the whiskers on the front of the muzzle they shouldnt be showing if the others are going backwards 23:01, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

I'm getting conflicting opinions on the back legs again. Which do I follow now? <span style="">23:53 Tue Mar 1

The redline jayie provided here, I think. The haunch is much thinner and closer to the bum and less round... That's how it'd be in a cat standing like this. In addition to that, the longhair's tail should look more like that at the top, as it looks unnatural rn. <span style="">00:22, 03/2/2016

I'm sorry to repeat myself, but it would make it a lot easier to show what I meant if you gave the link for your reference... I saw the partial picture Icy provided, and I was having trouble telling the position of the back and the other hind leg were from that partial shot. Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:50, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

I believe this is the image you used as reference from looking at the picture Icy posted I found what I believe is it. 18:24, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

can you move the tails more to the left slightly? they look much too long and stretched out at the base of the tail as they are right now, especially the longhaired one. and I'm probably just being picky with this one but maybe move them up a couple pixels too, they seem too...low? 16:05, March 5, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Velvetmoon. :) After looking at the reference image, I made this redline. Hope this helps: http://www.ezimba.com/work/160306C/ezimba11244574207200.png Jayie  Unwritten words~ 18:37, March 5, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded. thank you so much jayie! there's probably still issues with the longhair's tail since i had to redo it to put it closer to the body, as well as some other minor things, but it's getting there, lol. <span style="">02:33 Sun Mar 6

No problem. :) The belly is still much too thin on both, and there's a few other little changes. I made a new redline for both the longhair and the shorthair: http://www.ezimba.com/work/160307C/ezimba11244514440400.png http://www.ezimba.com/work/160307C/ezimba11244520061500.png Hope they help. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 21:45, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

I feel like the tip of the long hairs tail is drooping to much but know looking at jayie's redline I think that will fix it though. 18:54, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

No I haven't forgotten about these. Sorry if it sounds like I'm full of excuses but on monday I started drum major tryouts which takes about 3 hours after school of physical exercise. I'm coming home completely exhausted, extremely sore, doing my schoolwork, and then going to bed. Tryouts will be done next Thursday and I would really appreciate your patience with me. Just letting you know that I haven't forgotten about this. I promise I'll get to them. Thanks again. -- <span style="">23:07 Thu Mar 17

Splook, if it makes you feel better I think this looks amazing, and tbh I have no clue how anyone is spotting such minor flaws! Warriorcat1195 (talk) 16:48, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

The back looks a little short; maybe add some more "weight" in lack of a better term  to the haunches  08:25, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry if this has already been pointed out, but I don't think the entire foot should be flat on the back legs. The heels should be raised off the ground a little. I can't describe it any better than that, I'm sorry. <span style="">11:29 Sun Mar 20

reuploaded hope i did things okay? i wasn't too sure what to do about the back so i just made it more rounder and even, and as for the paws, the legs are at a kind of an angle anyways so i didn't know how to address that, but if anyone has any tips then i'd appreciate it. also i just realized i forgot to edit the bellies and i'll do that tomorrow. i appreciate everyone's patience with me, sorry again. <span style="">00:43 Sat Mar 26

reuploaded fixed bellies <span style="">20:17 Sun Mar 27

shouldn't the tails be in the same position? 20:28, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

Make the raised front paw a little bit smaller, they're pretty big compared to the others. <span style="">20:29, 03/27/2016

I think these are very well-made lines! Maybe, fix the longhair's tail a little bit. --Falcon 49 (talk) 13:50, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded, sorry about the wait, i was in arizona for a week. personally, i think the longhair's tails are fine. <span style="">22:16 Wed Apr 6

Hopefully my last thing - the elbow/shoulder part feels too thick on both. I made that correction on my last set of redlines and moved the elbow-line over to the left to make it seem less thick, could you make that change on both? And also like on my last set of redlines, on the longhair, can you make the fluff more thick on the neck/throat and less thick on the chest? Jayie Unwritten words~ 22:33, April 6, 2016 (UTC)

I think the front (<-- part) of closer-to-us (left) shoulder on the shorthair seems to be jutting out a bit too much. <span style="">22:41 Wed Apr 6

http://prntscr.com/ap21i5 Some suggestions. Basically, round the chest on the shorthair more, round that heel more, make the haunch line shorter, over to the right some, and more rounded, and define that shoulder. <span style="">22:44, 04/6/2016

Actually, I think the bend of the haunch and the position of the front leg are fine, considering they're positioned like in the picture that was used as a reference for this: http://prntscr.com/ap21i5 But maybe that's just me... Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:14, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

I understand that's what it looks like in the picture, but it's unnatural looking when it's a blank; that's just the way blanks are tbh, you have to alter them to make them look naturally positioned, because simple 2D lines can't capture the depth and crap of the actual image. <span style="">00:29, 04/9/2016

I don't think it looks unnnatural. That's how it realistically looks, and it works. I get that 2D lines can't always show the complexities of texture and such, but the line is pretty clearly defined of were the bend of that hip is, and I don't think it makes sense to deviate from that claiming it looks unrealistic when it's there in the actual real-life photo. Jayie Unwritten words~ 02:23, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

Well, the longhair's tail is thinner in the middle than at the beginning --Falcon 49 (talk) 07:55, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

I think the tails look fine but I agree the legs look sharp too sharp to be natural. I think you should just smooth out the lines. 09:45, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Still working? formality question, that's all;;; no shooting me

reuploaded, sorry, super stressed atm. <span style="">16:55 Sat Apr 23

very minor detail but the head lineart on the longhair is leaking into the ear, I think. 17:12, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Flower Foot (Ki) - For Approval
<span style="">20:38, 04/18/2016

I feel a bit wary commenting as I'm your apprentice, but do you mind defining the ear pink a bit? It looks a little bit blended in with the brown. Other than that, terrific! Jaysnow (talk) 20:42, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

Honestly I think it's fine as it is now. Ear pink doesn't have to be super defined, after all. I can tell the difference just fine anyway. <span style="">21:05 Mon Apr 18

Would you mind lightening her just a tad? She looks a bit too brown, unless you want it like that, but I guess I'm just saying she looks darker than tan. However it could just be my eyes.Dewsplash (talk) 23:50, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

She's cited with tan stripes, so she automatically gets a brown base (like cats cited as tabbies are automatically brown tabbies). So yes, she's brown, and yes she has the tan stripes she's cited with. I will lighten the base if someone else says to, however, but right now I think it's fine as it is. <span style="">23:53, 04/18/2016

This is gonna be the stupidest question, but are the stripes lighter than the base? I know when I mentioned this on skype, I thought you were going to do a lighter brown base... but with the pattern, I honestly can't tell. Also, can you define the shading on the tail just a tiny bit?

Yes the stripes are lighter than the base, I can lighten them more if needed though. I'll upload when I get home later. <span style="">17:40, 04/20/2016

I think the base is fine hoenstly. As Ferk said, it does look with what she's cited with. Could you possibly darken the shading on the right side of the body? — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 15:35, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

there is not qny shading on the right side of the body? 13:49, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

There isn't any shading on that side, because that's the /light/. I'll upload the tail shading shortly. <span style="">16:18, 04/26/2016

Still working? Technically, this has gone over a week, but given that people have been bouncing back and forth with the "it's fine" thing, I'm not entirely sure that counts....

Volepaw (SC) (Star) ~ For Approval
I've screwed up the shading on this so bad I'm just gonna post it since it's frustrating.

with the source of this shading the face shading should probably be swapped. 17:51, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink a bit and add some depth to the eyes. <span style="">17:56 Thu Apr 21

Reuploaded Is this better?

Hmm, given that Volepaw was actually under six moons, wouldn't it makes to give this character the StarClan kit blank? Not sure what the situation would be with this... but it's worth bringing up.

All I really know is that he was mentioned to have died before becoming a warrior, but we don't necessarily know how old he was when he died. Idk what to do either

It was from an infected wound; he was apprenticed far too early, during Brokenstar's reign of terror and apprenticing kits who are at least three moons old, which goes against the whole Warrior Code thing. To my knowledge, the normal StarClan blanks are only to be used on cats six moons or older, hence the creation of the StarClan kit blanks.

Maybe... blur the shading a bit more? =) --Falcon 49 (talk) 19:18, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Badgerfang, who was given his warrior name upon his death, was given the StarClan kit blank due to being under 6 moons. I think this needs that blank if it was decided that Badgerfang did. If I remember correctly they were the same age when they died. <span style="">19:47 Thu Apr 21

Reuploaded Kay, here's the kit star version

Blur the shading some more, great job :) 21:07, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Just blur it again some more, and maybe add some more shading along the arms. 21:33, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded lol I forgot to turn up the blur rate so it failed to blur the first time. I hope it's better now

Smooth out the shading it's looking a bit patchy. 21:56, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded I couldn't pinpoint any patchy spots, but I smoothed it out anyways a little bit.

Wouldn't Volepaw get the regular StarClan blank since he was an apprentice? — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything.

Mink, did you read the rest of the section? Volepaw was younger than six moons, meaning he gets the StarClan kit blank. Badgerfang has the same one, despite being an honorary StarClan warrior in The Ultimate Guide.

It's leaking slightly on the back near the tail. 14:53, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Think I got it

maybe, blur the shading on the bacl a bit more?--Falcon 49 (talk) 19:28, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

I'm actually very hesitant to do that, because if I blur it too much more on the back it'll contradict the light source I want to use. Can I get a second opinion on that?

Smoothing it out a bit shouldn't contradict the source, I think... at least not in this case. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, but I really don't think you'll have that problem. Your source is pretty clear, although the shading on the head could be defined a bit.

Reuploaded

Comments before approval? Great job. 17:07, April 24, 2016 (UTC) I think the shading still needs to be fixed a bit. I think there isn't enough shading on chest and head. The rest is ok. --Falcon 49 (talk) 10:50, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

ReuploadedI color-picked the shading tint from the darkest part of shading on the apprentice, and kept the opacity all the way up. I've already been told to define it on the head so I'm not changing it there without another opinion, sorry. A little has been added to the chest, but I do disagree with doing this :/

Define the shading on the body and tail. 21:26, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Smooth out the main body shading and define the light on the legs. 01:53, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Blur the shading some more. 23:42, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Can you darken the shading a tad? It's a little hard to see. 09:14, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Comments before approval? Amazing job, Spooky. 19:25, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the shading on the belly is leaking, as there needs to be more depth.

Reuploaded I'm never going to get this shading right ugh. Added some depth, although I don't wanna add any more than there is now

I still think it needs darkened a lot more. 13:37, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

It looks dark enough to me. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 13:42, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

I don't really want to darken it, I can see it clearly on several different screens and it looks perfectly fine to me.

Well I think that is the only problem on every screen I go on I can't see it. 16:42, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

ReuploadedAlright, I've darkened it a tad. I won't darken it any more, in fact on every screen I look at it, it looks much too dark so I'd like to ask if I need to re-lighten it.

Could you define the light on the legs? 00:39, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Spooky, don't let anyone fool you; darker shading is very much allowed here. Your shading is just the right darkness for this pelt color, imo.

Reuploaded

Smokepaw (star) - for evaluation


Falcon, you need to put a reservation on the chart for this. I saw you crossed it out on the list but it needs to be on the chart with a date and column.

Ok, fixed it. Falcon 49 (talk) 19:15, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

There's major shading leaking on the left side of your image, can you clean that up?

Define shading, smudge ear pink, and add the nose pink as well as eye depth. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 19:52, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

damnation. there is still a bit of shading leaking. :/ Falcon 49 (talk) 20:40, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. are eye depht and nose pink ok now? :/ Falcon 49 (talk) 05:41, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

erm... comments? 13:32, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Please don't ask for comments right away. It says at the top of the page that you must wait three days before asking. It hasn't even been ten hours since you've uploaded. As for comments themselves, darken the shading, and use the ear pink color from the apprentice; this is far too neon pink.

ok sorry. I'm a bit too impatient. Falcon 49 (talk) 13:53, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Agreeing with Skye, the ear pink and nose pink are too bright. Most ear pinks tend to blend with the pelt, but that's just how I do it most of the time — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:18, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. is the ear pink better now?

you still need to fix the nose. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:26, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Define and expand the shading, please. 14:59, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

There's still a lot of shading leaking outside the tail <- that way

I know. I tried to fix it, but I'm not able to. Falcon 49 (talk) 18:17, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. better now? Falcon 49 (talk) 18:32, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Most of the shading is still leaking, just take the erase tool of whatever program you use and swipe most of it away ^

I know, but it isn't that easy! I risk to erase part of the drawing, too. Falcon 49 (talk) 19:06, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Put the lineart, base, and shading all on separate layers. Then you can only edit the shading layer, and not erase any lineart or base. If you put an erase tool on size 1 with the amount of shading you need to erase, I highly doubt you'll erase any part of your image that you didn't intend to

Reuploaded. still some shading leaking?

It's much better, but there's still some on the very left of the picture

Reuploaded. I think I fixed it. Is the rest ok? Falcon 49 (talk) 19:56, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

define shading depth and define the shading on the head and tail. There is waste every were around the image. 23:52, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

what do you mean by waste? Falcon 49 (talk) 14:03, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

stuff outside the linear that shouldnt be there. 16:56, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. what about now? Falcon 49 (talk) 17:50, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the main body and tail shading a bit more. <span style="">23:33 Sat Apr 23 Reuploaded. --Falcon 49 (talk) 08:29, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the main body and tail shading a little more, and blur/smudge the earpink a bit. Also, I think there might still be a little waste around the tail. 01:56, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

I think there's a white pixel on the left paw, could you fill that in? Reuploaded.--Falcon 49 (talk) 15:58, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

There's still a tad of shading waste in the tail loop,I believe

Define the light on the legs, and blur/smudge the earpink a tad more. 00:41, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

There is waste everywere, not just on the tail :3 23:02, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Mintkit (YS) (Star) ~ For Approval
I say I hate textured cats and I go and do one! 21:54, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Contour the texture to match how the muscles are located on the cat. That will probably make doing texture a bit more pleasant for you to work with ^^. Believe me, it takes a lot of practice but once you get the hang of texture you will want every solid cat to have it. If you need help, just post on my talk page and I will explain it in more detail (: <span style="">22:06 Thu Apr 21

The shading looks like it's leaking away from the lineart on the bottom of the chest between the paws a little bit

Reup I'll play around with it a bit more later when I'm not tired... 23:02, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Could you blur the shading a bit? 01:21, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload 06:48, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

There should be some shading on <-- leg/paw.

Could you blend the shading on the back a bit more? It looks like a stripe rather than shading.  <span style="">10:04 Fri Apr 22 

Reupload IDk 14:51, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

The shading is leaking away from the lineart on the bottom of the charcat on the belly.

Reupload Fixed thanks Spooky! 15:41, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

smooth out the shading a lot 20:59, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload 21:46, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

lighten it and smooth it out a lot more still 23:51, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

make the shading on the head curve more with the body.

It's curving already so I don't know if you want me to make that more apparent or... 06:39, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

It hink the kit has a slightly lighter chest and muzzle? someone else have a look and confirm/deny 08:43, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload I added the pale chest. 10:55, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth the shading out a tad more. Great job! 17:11, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload 16:51, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Thin out the shading, lighten it, smooth it out, and define it on her chest and paws. 23:41, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload smoothed it out but I don't want to lighten it to much as the kit is pretty dark. 18:36, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the shading on the left paw?

Reupload played around with the shading. 19:29, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out and lighten the shading. 00:42, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload smudged it some and changed tint because I like it! 15:20, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Minnowkit (CP) (Star) - For Approval
Precious little one.

there seems to be some waste on the right side, might be my screen though. 11:26, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't see any. Can anyone else see if there's waste?

There's no waste, but maybe smooth the shading some more possibly? — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:28, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Where? If I smooth it out everywhere, I'm just going to get told to define it again, probably.

Idk, but the lines near the chest seem kinda blurred? — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:34, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Huh? No, they're not. My lineart isn't blurred... I have that on its own layer. o.O

Might be just me. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:52, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

I agree with smoothing it out, or smudging it more. 15:01, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Would have really preferred to have not done that, considering there are so many other images with shading twice as sharp.

Can you make the shading on the right paw more visible? 15:22, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

It's actually too defined for my tastes... can I get a second opinion on that? You just told me to smooth out the shading, and now I'm being told to define it again???

Did I say define it? And I'm not telling you to define the entire thing. I'm talking about the shading on the right paw. 23:25, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Asking me to "make it more visible" is telling me to define the shading, Icy. I'm waiting for a second opinion, because I can see it just fine.

it's visible on both paws. 11:24, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

tfw four and a half days without comments. Can I have something, please?

Ryewhisker (StarClan) - For Evaluation
Lily thorn  14:41, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

remove texture. I'm pretty sure the other one doesn't have it. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:52, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

You have an image to match, and no, there isn't texture on the warrior.

I was trying to match the image, but I was having a bit a trouble. I redid it, I used all the colors from the Warrior image and I tried to make the stripes look as close as I could. Lily thorn  17:09, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

define shading — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 17:11, April 22, 2016 (UTC)

Define the light source?

And, the file should be named File:Ryewhisker.star.png, not what you have it named currently.

File has been renamed. Please make sure to upload it under File:Ryewhisker.star.png whenever you upload changes. 15:20, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Define your light source. On the body the light seems to be coming from the right but on the face it looks like it's on the left. Sorry if this makes little sense. I just got off work and am on mobile. <span style="">02:00 Sun Apr 24

Reuploaded. Sorry about the file name, I forgot about that. Lily thorn  15:19, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

This actually looks really awesome for your first charart! It's great. Can you make the tail shading on the top a tad more visible, and define it on the paws? 17:12, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lily  thorn  18:26, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading on the face and chest. 01:11, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Re uploaded. 13:17, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define it a little more on the head? (that might just be my bad monitor though)

Remove the dorsal stripe- his warrior does not have one.

Also define and darken the head shading; it's a lot lighter than the rest of the image, and I had to double-check to make sure it was there.

Re uploaded. I know the stripe wasn't on his warrior image, but it doesn't really show his back that much, I will still remove it, but I wanted to point that out first in case I could keep it on. Lily thorn  23:08, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

I think on the right ear you need to have the earpink cover the whole ear, or if it's shading that's randomly there it should be removed due to your light source

No, you can't keep it; if it's not shown on the warrior image, then it shouldn't be on here. You would be able to see a dorsal stripe (if he had one) on those blanks.

Re uploaded. Lily thorn  19:33, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Would you mind making the nose-pink a little more visible? It looks black on my bad screen anyways

Re uploaded. Lily thorn  21:43, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Willowkit (CP) (Star) - CBA
Eh, my monitor doesn't show dark colors that well... 20:51, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe...define the shading in the body? Maybe tail.

Re-uploaded. 00:25, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Jumpfoot (Star) ~ For Evaluation
My first charart! I know it's terrible, but I tried... <span style="">02:59 Tue Apr 26

Nah, no it's not. =P If you could, smudge the ear pink and make the nose pink a darker color. Black cats usually have a black or extremely dark gray nose. I also think the ear pink is a bit lighter on the warrior, but that could be how it's blurred. Define and darken the shading too, please.

smudge ear pink — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 14:08, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Please don't repeat comments, Mink. I just said that in my own comment.

Wow Maple this is really really good! Can you expand the shading? I'm not sure if this is what Cloudy's saying, so my sincere apologies I'm echoing you Cloudy. 18:52, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Updated Thanks! <span style="">01:14 Thu Apr 28

Define the shading more. 00:43, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">01:26 Fri Apr 29

Heavystep ~ For Approval
Stress. I'm out of practice. 16:05, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Nonsense, it looks amazing. Smudge the stripes a bit (if you already have, then just a bit more will be fine), and define the depth on the edges of the shading.

There's a few pixels of shading waste on the middle of the back. Looks great!

Reups merci  16:44, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Oatspeckle (Star) ~ For Approval
i'll fix up the shading n stuff later or smth 20:39, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail, the front paw of the left arm, and the entire right paw along with the chest that stretches above it. 23:40, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

I think on the medicine cat one its more of a darken golden? — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 12:49, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded 13:21, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

smudge ear pink as well as darken shading. its really light — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 13:22, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

there;s no shading on them to begin with? and they're the same colour. 13:23, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

well I can't really see the shading; it needs darkened all over ^^ — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 13:26, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

no. it's already too dark on both my screens and I'm not going darker. 13:30, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Is there intentionally no shading on the head, or are my eyes messing up? Also, could you define the tail shading if possible?

reuploaded its there, just defined it 16:34, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

this is great xD just add some more speckles and define the facial shading. Would you like the file (if you actually still need it)?

Frog (Ro) (Star) ~ For Evaluation


Please don't align your images. Also, add earpink, nose pink, and darken shading cause I can't see it. Some of the white from the tail tip is also leaking to the body.

You have to match these three images, I'm afraid. Would you like the file? Aside from that, you need to add shading, there's waste in several spots, the eyes look cross-eyed and you need to add pupils. And the file should be named File:Frog (Ro).star.png, not what you have right now. An admin will probably rename it for you if you ask.  <span style="">11:07 Wed Apr 27 

He needs his broken spine, it's never confirmed he lost it in StarClan. And I'm going to rename it right now, actually. 19:23, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Plus-how do you draw a broken spine on charart?

You'll actually have to alter the lineart which can be quite tricky (imo) This also needs to try to match the patterning and color of his other pictures more

Reuploaded'

Could you smooth the back lineart a little bit? As it is right now it looks a bit more lie he's had a chunk sliced off his back rather than a broken spine, no offense. Also, if he has a broken spine, I don't think his tail would be able to curl up like that. And you still need to match the other images- it'd be much easier if you had the file to look at, do you want it? Aside from that, smudge the earpink and add shading.  <span style="">09:42 Sat Apr 30 

I've actually seen his other images, and I'm trying my best to match them, though it's not quite right yet.

Mistfeather (Ki) ~ For Approval
smol — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 13:49, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Can you try to match this better with the warrior? This one looks darker, and has different texturing/patterning or whatever.

Re-Upps I used the images colors and that for an example. Honestly, it looks like it to me. I did the best I could. — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 15:25, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Well, I can tell you from working on the warrior that the entire image is.. it's not quite totally gray; the shading is tinted in a way that makes it look blue. There's also a completely different texture style that you'll have to try and match in order to make it look like the loner and the warrior.

How would I do that then? Would it be possible if I could get the file Skye? — <font face="Vivaldi" size="1" color="#08088A>Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 16:16, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

It would be best to ask Sziri for the file for the loner, as she has the first image in the set.

Dawnflower (Star) - For Approval
This shading gives me life. (And the nose will be colored in the next upload...) <span style="">17:25 Wed Apr 27

...wow. I am utterly blown away. Sunjaw, this is amazing! Do you think you can define the eye depth a tad? This is really good. 19:22, April 27, 2016 (UTC)

Could you also smooth out the highlights (if they are) on <== front paw and the tail? This is amazing! 06:17, April 28, 2016 (UTC)

I will get to fixing this stuff ASAP. I got swamped in turns of hours for the next week (beyond as many as I was hired for) so I barely have time to sleep right now >.< And thank you!^^ <span style="">01:46 Sat Apr 30