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Merry (L) - Redone
Needed stripes~ Comments? I tried tweaking it, I really did ;-;. The stripes looked kooky and awkward, so I redid it. Sorry! Selene; She's got eyes of the bluest sky~  20:14, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Naw, naw. This looks epic! add earpink -- 20:31, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploadedd~Don't know how I forgot earpink xD. Comments? ''' Selene;  She's got eyes of the bluest sky~  20:43, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink triangular -- 01:56, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, but it seems like you put stripes on the white fur too. I don't think that's actually possible, so can you make it so only the ginger fur has stripes? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  02:37, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Also, define/darken the shading a little. -- 04:10, September 20, 2011 (UTC)

Gorgeous! Define the earpink. Shadewing  Blades of the Night 22:11, September 22, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Darken the shading and blur the patches. Its been 5 days without an upload... 23:01, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

You still working on this? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  01:01, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, tweaking it a tad before I reupload it. Haven't figured out how to remove the stripes from the white xD. I might have to redo it, so that might take a few days with my procrastinating self. Selene; She's got eyes of the bluest sky~  02:22, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I kind of like the stripes on the white, even if it isn't conventional. There's some blurred lineart on the ear. Define and brighten the earpink.  ❀ wild  heart ❀ 04:10, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Man HOW do you do that? awesome! But darken the shading. 04:05, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ Thanks :). Comments? Selene;  She's got eyes of the bluest sky~  17:46, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wow this is awesome work I love it! Yes, I can't see ear pink, can you define it? Leaf-storm,17:49,September 25,2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :3 Thanks Leaf ^^. Comments? Selene; She's got eyes of the bluest sky~  18:07, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, I looked on the charart cearfully and I think there can be some more ear pink colour on the white tip of ear. Only a little. It's looking like she have ear only on orange part. Leaf-storm,17:31,September 26,2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more centered, and more triangular too. 23:35, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Crookedstar - Tweaked
OA was Bramble, then it was tweaked by Ivystripe. So, his stripes weren't all that realistic, and where was he mentioned with cream transistions? I re-did the stripes and played the shading, and removed the cream parts. Comments? 03:08, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Though this looks great, I'm kinda sad to see the old image go. That was one of my favorite leader ianges. :P But anyways, his does look great! Make the tooth white, make his eyes pale green *they needed to be changed before) and make the tabby M thicker. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕   ☆StarClan be with you★  03:53, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Oops, I didn't know that was the tooth! Well, I made it white and darkened the eyes. 03:57, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Is it really needed, to completely redo so many chararts that only need small tweaks? Nothing against you, Icestorm: this looks nice, but it just seems like every tweak you take on you restart from scratch when ypu just need to, in this case at least, take out the cream. Maybe at least use the same brown as before? And some of the stripes transition oddly, one going from his back leg to his front leg to his chest. 04:46, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Shellheart, I did ot re-do it. I did ot restart from scratch, I stated my reasons above. Yes, I altered the base pelt because it looked more of a...eh, how do I explain it...more of a muddish brown 05:15, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Shelly, lay off a bit. Icestorm works hard on her chararts, and I wouldn't be surprised if she felt offended by your comment. There was something odd about the old brown used on Crookedstar anyways. I re-did Mudfur for that exact same reason, and I don't see you telling me off. 05:21, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I was not telling anyone off, Cloudy. I'm sorry, Icestorm, if I came off that way. I was only pointing out that you overwork yourself redoing all of these from scratch when you don't need to. I do think your chararts look fine. Please don't take my statements as ones of anger or malice, I only mean to help. I just thought the old brown suited Crookedstar more. 05:33, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

The brown he used to have was more reddish/orange-brown, when Crookedstar is supposed to be a light brown. The stripes look a little different, but, that's Icey's style. 05:37, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

He was light brown >.>. I'm with Shellheart on this one. All he needed was the cream removed. It doesnt matter what the stripes looked like before. Redoing it is just making more work. If you are so worried about hard work going to waste, why not try redoning an image that acctually on the redoing list? 05:44, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Don't go whining at me, thank you. I only re-do images I personally feel need to be redone. He was not light brown. That had quite a tinge of orange and red in it. Wait. Why am I defending someone else's work? 05:52, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Everybody relax. I did not re-do it. He was not light brown. He was tawny-orangish-brown. If you don't believe me, go get on GIMP and look. Hard work? This is what Tweak Week is about. To make images better. Not "OMG THIS IS MORE WORK SO LIEK LET'S JUST ERASE IT." And no cat has triangle stripes, thanks for asking. 15:02, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wow.....why is everyone so hostile lately? Chill guys, don't bite each other's heads off. The is a pixil of waste above his ears, get rid of that. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:11, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

He looked light brown and cream to me. Eh. Make the "M" as a stripe that goes all the way up, as the stripe that tabby cats have end as an "M" but is a stripe that goes all the way up their head. 15:21, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

If you don't think any cat is a triangle tabby (something I agree with, actually), why are you still using triangles on him? Yeah, these triangles are more elongated, but they're triangles none the less. And Icestorm, yes tweak week is about improving images, and I'm not tryign to make the project lazy, but Crookedstar wasn't up for a re-do, and yes, you reded him. You changed his coloring and stripes, only leaving the lineart as far as I can see. I'm not trying to fight or make an enemy of you. Again, I'm only trying to help here. 15:41, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

They look more realistic :| No, I did not re-do him, and that is the last time I'm going to state that. I'm not fighting anymore. 15:45, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

She didn't re-do it, yes, and it looks fine to me. It did kinda bug me about that cream thing on his chest on the old charart, because it wasn't in his description, and it probably confuses people to what it is. It is sort of triangle tabby, but its like a wavy combination with it, so I think it looks fine, also. Remember what (I think) Cloudskye said, this is PCA, you are supposed to be creative with your art and chose how you want to do it. Now I don't think I should continue the argument, so I'll stop... 15:53, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

If this isnt redone youre a mircale worker. But its still a hecka lot a work. I think its only fair that if this stays redone then the next 4 images you (Icestorm) get to tweak are his other four images. Its only fair. 16:23, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: It isn't re-done. I'm not going to say that anymore. Fine, I'll tweak his other images if everybody agrees. 16:25, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly though, the majority of the project seems against this being tweaked the way you have (And what did you keep the same from the old image?). I think it needs to be declined. 16:47, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I don't. I think it's fine - the stripes were unrealistic, the color was a orange brown, and the cream needed to be removed. The majority of the project? I don't think two users is the majority of the project. 16:51, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

5-2, a majority. There are tons or unrealistic stripes on tabbies, we dont neeed to redo them all. His colour was fine. If you really think it was that bad all it needed was some colourizing. All that needed to be tweaked was the cream. And you didnt answer my question. What did you keep the same? Besides the lineart. 16:54, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, you can get mad at me if you want, but I'm with Iceheart. His old image was lovely, and I didn't mind the stripes. You say you hate triangle tabbies but this one is. Idon't think it's fair to the original artist who worked hard on this. His stripes look like all of your other leaders. You could have tweaked the cream and used the burn or dodge tool to tweak his base color. This was not needed and I'm sorry if you hate me for this but it's the truth. 17:05, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I must say something too, if I can. His older charart was good. I can't see nothing wrong with it. Leaf-storm,17:54,September 25,2011 (UTC)

Actually, the stripes were pale and it looked odd against the brown, but it was acceptable. What does it matter that Icestorm redid this? Iceheart, you redid Silverstream's stripes when it was fine. It's no big deal to redo it unless it was absolutely unnessecary. ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:18, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Meh, actually, Silverstream was on the re-do list, as a longhair. stripes were optional. Crookedstar however didnt need any tweaking, just the cream removed. See what I mean? -- 20:23, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, though I've redone a lot more images than neccesary probably, I think this really should have been only tweaked. The other one looked fine, yes the cream needed to be removed, and yes, the brown was tinted red, but that could have been easily fixed. It didn't really NEED to be tweaked this much, to the point where it looks (I'm not saying it is) redone completley. And I really think the stripes were fine, it wasn't like they were like Bumblestripes or anything, they were thin, and looked pretty natural to me. Anyways, if yoo're really gonna keep it like this, make the stripes a bit lighter, and closer to the hue of the main pelt. They seem kinda off right now. And the eyes look a bit funny, I think it's cause it seems to have an extra speck of white in each eye, but I'm not sure. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  21:37, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

If this is going to be kept (which I'm not sure it should be, my opinion), blur the stripes a ton, and add shading to him. Selene; She's got eyes of the bluest sky~  00:50, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Elorisa, I've seen the .xcf of this file. There is shading. 02:54, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I have to agree with what has been said. But if this is going to stay: thin out the stripes and maybe add some smaller, thinner ones; the M stripe on the forehead stands out a bit, and lighten the charart a bit, it looks a bit too dark for his light tabby description. 03:02, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I meant darken the shading. Woopsies~ Selene;  She's got eyes of the bluest sky~  19:37, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

You've also made the tooth too thick. I think you accidentally filled some of the inside of his mouth white. 19:39, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, let me put in my imput. Personally, I don't think we should even have this debate like this. It was said to be tweaked, and that's what Icestorm is doing. It's just an image, and it doesn't really matter if it is redone or not. It's just said to have no cream, so Icestorm redid it in a way that she is able to without cream. How would she take the cream off the original without damaging the shading or stripes? Anywho, define the shading on the back thigh. 21:32, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I altered the base color and blurred the stripes, and darkened the shading. I hope this is alright. And I did? Hold on, let me check. 21:35, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I did. I'm going to upload it right now. 21:35, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can you make the eye a lighter shade of green? It looks kind of gray. 00:46, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

And can you de-saturate the nose a little? The shade of pink is a little... neon. 00:49, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Shadow (L) - Tweaked
er Comments? 06:34, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Who was the OA, and what needed to be tweaked? 06:36, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Well aren't I smart? :P Shading needs major blurring. Original artist- MosspathOfSkyClan. 06:38, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the tail highlight a bit & blur it -- 06:40, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Can you lighten up said shading a bit? Pretty please? 06:41, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the eyes a tad and blur the haunch highlight. Looks good :3 06:42 Sep 25 Sun

Cutee! Lighten the entire image. 14:59, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. xD 16:19, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

There are some miscolored pixils inside of her left ear, it'd be our right. 16:31, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 16:38, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the nose color. ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:34, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

I thought the nose was supposed to be a darker version of the pelt color. There'a a bit of gray area around her back, so, you may want to get rid of that. =P 22:34, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I thought so too. Anyways, I think I got the gray. :P 03:10, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can you make the nose a bit darker? It still seems the same color as the pelt. 00:47, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, you mean lighter? Also, tone down the chest highlight a little bit. 14:16, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

The nose is supposed to be a darker color then the pelt. 17:13, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

River (Leader) (L) - Redone
Otterheart was finally approved! XD Anyways, originally by Insane, and the shading was pretty blotchy and needed to be blurred. I wasn't quite sure what shade silver-gray would be, so I just chose a lightish grey and made it look kinda sleek and shiny like silver. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  09:19, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I really like it! Can you make the nose a tad darker? 15:00, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful. Blur the underbelly shading a bit. 16:35, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading all around and darken it on the underbelly. ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:30, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Wow, I didn't realize how long I procrastinated uploading this. XD I don't think the changes are showing, I may be wrong though. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕  ☆StarClan be with you★  17:44, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (W)~ Redone
OA was Mintstarr, and this was hardest style to redo. Comments? 19:03, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

define the earpink & theres this one tiny stripe near the tip of the tail that's too dark & needs blurring -- 19:49, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

The right hindpaw is darker than the others. If it's part of the style lighten it up so that it doesn't look too dark. Much better than mine :P. ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:20, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L! Maybe darken/redden the earpink a tad? I can barely see it. And in this image her tail-tip is black. It should be made black on her other images. If I were a Warrior, I'd tweak Silverstream's other pics, but I'm an Apprentice *facepalm* I hope I'm nominated in less than 300 centuries :P- Kittycat79 aka Rowantail 09:22, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

If you prove yourself, that is :P. Define the earpink. 22:16, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Petalfall (D) - Redone
I realize I was only supposed to tweak it, but no matter how much I blurred it, it was still blotchy. But if it's that much of a problem, I'll retry. Otherwise, comments? ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:30, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

OA was Bramble, shading needed to be blurred and highlights were too concentrated. ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:32, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

It looks better anyways. Can you lighten the shading ever so slightly though? It looks kinda odd. 21:37, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Also, the earpink looks a bit purple, so make it redder. 22:31, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

A pink cat? Wow xD Blur the tail shading. 23:22, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

It's rose-cream, Snow. An odd color, indeed. 05:13, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:27, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink still seems purple. Redden it more. Great work on the shading, though. :) 00:48, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- thanks, it was very hard! :) ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 23:36, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more triangular, it looks very lumpy. 17:05, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Voletooth (W) ~ Redone
OA was Bramble, and it was redone as a longhair. I don't really like the color, but I don't know if I should change it. Comments? 22:30, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, I like it ^.^ Blur the chest highlight and the earpink. 22:36, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks. :3 22:37, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Kewl stripez! darken the shading & blur the highlights -- 00:25, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 05:07, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller. Nice. ☾Mint☽ Cheers! I'll drink to that. 20:28, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 21:53, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Oooh! This is lovely. :3 Just blur the stripes a tiny tad more. 00:36, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 00:38, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thornclaw (W) ~ Tweaked


Pine was approved, and well, i love Thorclaw, so when he needed to be tweaked, i was jumping :D Oa was Sandstar12, then Bramble, then Icestorm, his stripes didn't look real, so i tweaked them, comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:17, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

I love your tabbies ^^ Define the stripes on the tail. 23:21, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) Practic makes perfect, no one is perfect, but my tabbies will bee soon ;) Reuploaded-comments?

Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:28, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more. 00:22, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

When did I tweak him? There's a lack of shading. 00:29, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Idk, it just says your name so....Okay give me a min. Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 00:33, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:36, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to be blurred and shading neesd to be darkened. Yeha, I fixed the eye x3 21:56, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Can you define the earpink? 21:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah sure, give me a min. Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 22:04, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:27, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Now lighten it and add more shading all around. 23:12, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the stripes some more as well as shading. 00:35, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

blur the shading and highlights tons and make the shading curve at the haunch -- 01:45, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Is it a some sort of lighter color between the highlights and the shading? Is it the pelt color? If so, blend in the highlights with it, the highlights should not throw off the color of the pelt that much. 01:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

I....have...no....idea what that was...Anyway, reuploaded. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:59, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, I'm sorry xD There's some sort of contrast between the highlights and the shading (which I believe was a streak of pelt color.) I just wanted you to blend it in more xD  19:40, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Brightheart (Alt.W) - Redone
First tortie (or in this case, semi-tortie) and I'm quite pleased with how it turned out. :D @Iceheart, I owe it to you and your tutorial. Redone as a longhair, OA was Elorisa. Comments? 02:36, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Erased some waste around the charart. 19:12, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

You're allowed to redo alts? Looks great! Blur the chest shading and make the earpink more triangular. 21:54, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

She needed to be a longhair. Very good, Scarlet! I'd advise you lighten the midriff shading, though. 21:57, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 02:01, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Very pretty. Take the pale gray off the hind foot closest to us. 22:58, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. @Ivy, the gray was her darker gray color beneath the layers and shading. I just lightened it. - Scarletwind  ✧ L i s a n n a ✧ 04:13, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Skywatcher (E) - Tweaked
Okay, original artist was Bramble. He needed scars, but in his description he was also described as having a white-flecked muzzle and a matted pelt, so those elements were added as well. I blended the shading a tad in a few places as it did not touch the lineart. I am hoping to tweak his loner art as well so it will have continuity, but if someone else does it then I'm not going to throw a fit. Anyways, comments for improvement? 18:06, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

Blackclaw (W) ~ Redone
Needed to be redone as long haired. OA is Bramble. I'm not changing the color of the ear pink, because it's the same as the elder charart, nor am I changing the base pelt color, as that's the same as well. 18:26, September 29, 2011 (UTC)