Warriors Wiki talk:Books

The Sight - Silver Nomination
I'd like to nominate The Sight for a Silver Nomination. Just one question, should we include the alternate version where Jaykit, Lionkit and Hollykit have yellow eyes in the gallery, or is that unnecessary? Earth bender Tawny Style! 18:01, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

The article is great, but before we make a book article silver, its sub-pages (Cliffnotes, Allegiances, Gallery) must qualify for silver (or be already silver). Allegiances and Gallery are OK, but the Cliffnotes need some work; more detail should be added to them. As for the cover - yes, we should include it, as there were books actually released with this cover. I added it to the Gallery. Kind regards, 18:31, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the Cliffnotes, Helix. I thought myself that they were going to need some work. The problem is that I'm returning The Sight to my friend and I don't own it (well I did, but I lost it ;) anyways, from the rest of the time I have left, I will work my tail off to fix the Cliffnotes ;P Earth  bender Tawny Style! 18:34, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I had to give The Sight back to my friend tonight, but I expanded the Prologue and Chapters 1-3. I'm getting The Sight from the bookstore soon (most likely this upcoming Saturday), but for now, I could use some help for expanding it. Earth bender Tawny Style! 20:26, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for your work, those chapters are really great! Unfortunately I don't have the book so I cannot help out, but I'm sure it will be done soon. Thanks again, 05:05, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I found The Sight!!! :DDD Anyways, I'll continue to work on the Cliffnotes. ;P Earth  bender Tawny Style! 17:56, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

I have a few minor issues with the main article, though the cliffnotes are coming along well. The Trivia section, publish date and praise all needs citations. I'll take a look tomorrow if no one gets this first =) Also, I have a liking for those neat edition sections as can be found on the Midnight and Moonrise articles. It would be really good if we could get that together for this book (if applicable of course) though I have to admit that I need to get my head around how to source the informaton myself, so let's call it a learning curve for just about everyone here. -- Sandy star 17:42, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I don't think I will get it first (quite busy these days), so you (or someone) should "take a look". ;) I started the Editions section however, adding the two known foreign editions; the rest (i.e. the English ones) can be found out easily from amazon. I'm glad you like the idea btw, and as I promised, I will sort out the data for all book articles as a criteria for silver nomination (NP already has them). Of course, if you wish, I can put together some tutorial on where / how to search for info on editions, so you (and others) can help out too. :) 20:23, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Scratch that, I got them for you (except the wolf controversy - I didn't find any reliable source yet). 20:23, August 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * I've spent about an hour looking and haven't found anything either. I'm not sure where we go from here; all I can suggest is that we remove this information and if there is ever a source found for it then it can be added again. There is nothing els wrong with the article as far as I can see. 11:38, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Any more comments before the vote goes up? 08:51, August 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, we still have to sort out the cliffnotes. Totallytawnypelt99 was working on them, but stopped after the first 6 chapters. The rest of the chapters are not bad and could qualify for silver; but the article looks very uneven this way; either we need to expand the rest or tone down a bit the first ones. Tawny, if you read this, please tell if you still plan to complete it. 16:27, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Please excuse me. I competely forgot about them. We definitely need to make it consistent. 17:16, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry that I stopped so soon ;P I lost it for a while (I'm not that well organized and I got grounded for a few days) and I am still working on them, Sandy. But I'm also working on the Cliffnotes to BOTC... Earth bender Tawny Style! 22:05, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, shall this be taken down, as Tawny left the Wiki? 01:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * A section should be taken down when the discussion / activity in question is complete. This section is about expanding The Sight cliffnotes and article, and should remain here until that task is completed and The Sight and its sub-pages qualify for silver, no matter if Tawny left or not (Sandy is actively working on the cliffnotes as I see).
 * Talking about archiving, the section about SkyClan cliffnotes shouldn't have been taken down either, as the SkyClan cliffnotes are not complete yet. It should have been archived when the article in question is complete; and it is not yet.
 * Furthermore, Join requests like this should be put in their dedicated Join archive, not the one with the discussions.
 * Please be a little more attentive when archiving. Regards, 03:51, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Helix: I moved the join request to the correct archive for you. Whitestorm: You can archive however you like but I generally tried to keep it to 30 join requests per join archive and 20 discussions per archive, with the archives labelled by date (because I'm OCD like that). On this section: I am still working on the cliffnotes and apologise for only doing a few sections but it's not the most entertaining of tasks, I had college work to do and I had to go to work. I'll try and do a few more today. This is a community project though and although one person may nominate an article, the whole community have the responsibility to work on it. Therefore, this shouldn't be archived just because Tawny has left. 07:22, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, please, anyone who owns this book feel free to work on it. I'll try to get it from the library tommorow. 01:06, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

This has been here for two months with seemingly no one to work on it... so this Friday I bought The Sight, worked my way through it this weekend, and expanded / rewrote the Cliffnotes. These are now complete and I support the articles for a silver nomination. 09:27, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Helix, my library was supposed to be getting the book soon, but they still haven't. -_- Anyways, they look fine for silver. 11:47, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Cliffnotes Forest of Secrets~Bronze nomination
I fixed some stuff, Nout sure about the links in Chapter 7 because some of their names already had links. I also made sure that were no formatting problems nad i ran through it twice. But i may have missed something.....Anyway i think it is ready for Bronze (I think) nomination :P 02:29, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, there is no nomination process for bronze, just change it when you think it is ready. However, there is still some expansion needed in all chapters for it to be bronze or silver. 02:40, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

The first couple chapters are unbelievable short, I remember reading those chapters and they were longer than that, they can be expanded. 22:17, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded the first 8 chapters (and the prologue). I might do the rest in the weekend, if I find time for it. Kind regards, 12:11, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I finished rewriting / expanding the cliffnotes, and I am proposing the page for silver. 19:48, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, these are some chapters that I thought looked like they could be expanded, although I'm not quite sure because I don't have my copy with me right now. Chapters 3, 5, 6, 15, 25, 27, 29, and the Prolouge looks like they could all be expanded. 20:26, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Forest of Secrets - Silver Nomination
I finished working on the main article, and I'm proposing it for silver, along with the cliffnotes and Gallery (allegiances are already silver). Kind regards, 14:41, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Main article: I rewrote the plot summary, added a trivia and some more reviews. References and publication history are in place. The cat on the cover cannot be referenced as its identity was not confirmed by any official source (chat, blog, website), so I removed the assumption that it is Fireheart (we cannot assume that as even the eye colour is off)
 * Cliffnotes: I spent some time this week to expand these to an adequate level. Whitestorm: indeed, some sections are shorter than others, however the chapters are uneven, both in length and content. I believe that I mentioned all major and minor events; of course, other editors can check them as well - this is a community effort. :)
 * Gallery: Covers of all known editions are in place

I support, I see nothing wrong with this nomination. 17:22, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * This looks good to me also; nice work =) 19:49, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

I guess we'll need a new Content Drive. :P Excellent Work, Helix. 01:59, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. Great work, Helix. 19:45, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to put the vote up. 12:15, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Periods in List Items
Though my first language is not English, I believe that list items do not need periods (full stops) after them. Can someone confirm this? Several cliffnotes pages seem to have them, and I keep removing them when proposing for silver. 11:35, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

I always thought that they should have periods, but I guess I never knew that for sure. 20:31, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm not sure either... we should find some confirmation in some grammar book or similar. I hope to get input from other users as well. 18:03, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep in mind I'm answering the question as a designer, not as a proofreader: Doesn't matter, so long as you do it consistently one way through a document. 18:37, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I always thought they didn't have them. 20:57, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I do agree that they do not need periods. 22:16, October 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Does anyone have any objections? 21:53, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think we could still look for a confirmation before making a decision. 04:58, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

I researched this a little online and the general consensus seems to be to include a period if one of the items in the list is a complete sentence and if this is so then every item should be ended with a period for consistency. So what remains to be seen is whether we consider our cliffnotes to be written in sentences or in note form and once we have established which style we are currently using - though I suspect it is a mixture of the two - which we would like to use and therefore whether or not we will be using periods. 13:40, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd say they are complete sentences. Therefore, the periods should be reinserted... sorry for the problems I caused by removing them. In any case, Sandy, many thanks for clearing it up. 14:41, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Now to think of it, complete sentences seems a bit more better. 19:42, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, it's good to clear that up. We will use periods in all cliffnotes, from now on. 12:13, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Cliffnotes Bluestar's Prophecy - Gold Nomination
All right, since there are no gold articles on this project yet, I couldn't tell you what a gold article should look like. But this article looks really good and well expanded, looks ready... Comments? Feel free to shoot me down, I'm just kind of throwing this out here. 21:21, October 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * For an article to be gold, it must be featured on the front page first. Currently, PB has only one feature article (Code of the Clans), but even that did not qualify for gold yet. Kind regards, 11:25, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * -facepalm- I thought so. Sorry, and thanks Helix :) 23:41, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Long Shadows - Silver Nomination
I wish to nominate Long Shadow's Cliffnotes, and Book Cover Gallery. The allegiances is already silver. I think it's greatly expanded and detailed. Comments? 21:55, October 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Great articles. I completed the main article with references and a publication list. The cliffnotes are very nice, although I do not have the book so I cannot check, but it seems OK to me. The gallery is complete. Supporting. 07:14, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article - November 10
Okay, I thought we should start the discussion early, so we would be able to have it up in time. What do you guys think should be featured? I would vote for Bluestar's Prophecy and its cliffnotes. The only minor things that would need to be fixed on the main page are; it needs a publication list, and some praise. I am about to leave, so I will work on it this afternoon, if no one has yet. 12:03, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. 15:49, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the main BP article needs a lot of work - the Detailed Plot Summary describes only about a third of the book (up to the point when Bluepaw is made a warrior), it's kind of a stub article. For a feature, I'd suggest a book pack that is already in good shape, so we could avoid both the pressure and problems. Actually, I thought of Firestar's Quest (and its cliffnotes, gallery and allegiances), as these are already silver. Kind regards, 16:49, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

What about Moonrise? 17:11, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm OK with Moonrise too (and actually I support any book pack that is silver). :) 17:16, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think Firestar's Quest would be the better choice. I will put the vote up in a few days, unless there are any objections. 21:43, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

New Covers
Heyo boyos. I've found some new cover art; nothing exciting, just works of the American version. There are four Vietnamese covers of the first four in the OS, and one new Czech cover of Into the Wild. In uploading these to the gallery I used the newly approved naming convention, and also changed the Book Covers policy to fit in with the new format. However, Vietnamese and Czech were not listed among the languages. I used 'VI' for Vietnamese and 'CZ' for Czech, if that's all right. Shall I add the two languages among the others in the policy? -- 04:52, October 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I knew of the Vietnamese editions, but not about the other two - many thanks for finding these. :) I also uploaded some covers I recently found: Portuguese version of the first, Slovenian of the first two, and Dutch version of the third book. And yes, please update the language list in the policy - VI Vietnamese, CZ Czech, SI Slovenian and PT Portuguese. Kind regards, 16:57, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for finding all these covers! =) 21:38, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Shattered Peace - Silver Nomination
My first nomination on Project Books. I think all of the Shattered Peace pages look good. Comments?-- 18:56, October 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks really good! :) I added references to publish date, author and artist. I couldn't find any praise; also, there are no foreign editions so there is no need for the publication list. However, the Gallery should be fixed: it shows the same cover twice, claiming one to be "black and white" - can someone help out with those? 11:08, October 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fixed. I used the high quality image and cut out the blurred one. There is only one cover on the article now. -- 14:37, October 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. :) 16:57, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome. Should anything else be fixed up?-- 22:42, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

There are a few things that need to be fixed. There needs to be a citation confirming that Ravenpaw is the cat on the cover. Also, is there any praise that can be found? I will try to look into that this evening, but I'm not sure about the citation thing. 22:55, October 22, 2010 (UTC)