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Deputy Blanks - For Approval
having trouble with the tails :// 22:18 Sun Jan 24

I can give you a redline if youd like splook? Also the back legs feet are bothering me. Perhaps i can show you what would look best in the redline as well? 22:54, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

Tip for the tails, most of the time a cats tail will curl away from their body or lie flat on the ground 23:09, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

I suck at explaining things, so here. I can't quite figure out how to explain how to fix the legs though, and I can't figure out a redline for it. idk 23:34, 01/24/2016

Make the hind paws thicker and the knees should be more well-rounded.

A few suggestions, feel free to ignore them.  17:51 Wed Jan 27 

the blanks are a little too small --Belllastar (talk) 00:21, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

No, they're not. o.o They're about the same size as many of the other blanks we have on here.

The necks look thin to me. However, only tweak it if you feel that you need to. — ☆ ﻿paper  ·  finches  ★  17:54, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded. I did a whole new tail placement that was suggested. I think it's working for the shorthaired, but does the longhair look alright? 02:13 Sun Jan 31

It looks fine to me^^ but I think you can add some more tufts on the back of the tail?

The way the fur swoops up on the chest of the long-haired looks a little too cartoonish compared to the other blanks, at least in my opinion. Consider smoothing that out/making it more realistically fluffy, if that makes sense? It looks cool, don't get me wrong, I just don't think it fits the style of the other blanks. Jayie Unwritten words~ 23:08, February 2, 2016 (UTC)

Could you add more "fur lines" on the long hair's tail?

Define the shoulder more and add some more to the lower jaw? 07:05, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

This isn't meant to rush you, but here's a reminder to upload the blanks! I know you're busy, but giving the section a nudge wouldn't hurt... I think. =P Given that you are not bound by the one-week upload limit, this is nothing other than a courtesy or something. I'd say "friendly reminder", but that's usually used in a mocking tone, and you know that's not what I mean.

reuploaded. my apologies with the delay. my new classes for the semester keep me busy on weeknights. 01:06 Sat Feb 6

Comments before approval? 08:40, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

The gap between the hind leg and the hind foot reminds me too much of a rabbit... 09:10, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

The curved line at the shoulder looks akward can I ask why it is there? 14:56, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

The hindlegs of both the short-haired and long-haired have different lengths to them. I suggest fixing them so they match?

I'm sorry for the massive nitpicky comment, but could you make the shoulder a bit wider, thin out the lines on the front toes some (and maybe shorten them),move the toe on the back foot backwards a tiny bit, move the far back leg forward a bit, make the close haunch attach to the leg a bit lower down, add a tiny bit more fluff to the bottom of the longhair's chest and haunch, make the far front foot a little wider, shorten the shorthair tail a tad, make the gap between the upper and lower whisker a bit wider and make the back of the heads attach to the neck a bit higher up (or the jaw a bit lower)? If you don't get what I mean, I'll gladly give a redline to show you. Most of this is optional.  16:01 Sat Feb 6 

It doesn't look like a rabbit, Sagestream, and if it does, can you please tell her what to do, instead of just telling her what you think it looks like? 19:32, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

A redline would be really helpful, Shinx :) Sometimes I get lost on what to do from just reading the text 19:34 Sat Feb 6

Alright, then i think maybe you should shorten the gap between the leg and the foot. it just looks a bit awkward. 02:58, February 7, 2016 (UTC)

I already said that Sage :P Anyway, hope this helps.  10:53 Sun Feb 7 

I think the tail could be raised a few pixels up on the back of the cat, and the neck needs to be thickened a bit ( http://prntscr.com/a1872f ), and the raised paw should be backed up a few pixels and made smaller. The tum could be dropped a pixel or two, and the ears made a bit neater. The longhair should probably have long fur all the way up to the chin too, as well as the shoulder being fuzzy. 23:45, 02/9/2016

reuploaded. thanks so much, i think they look a lot better now. 02:41 Tue Feb 16

Comments before approval? 03:59, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Add white to the chararts so they look like the other blanks. Great job! ^_^

Sorry for bothering you again but could you add a little bit more fluff to the bottom of the longhair's chest while you're at it? Just one or two lines will do.  16:58 Tue Feb 16 

Can I ask why the blanks have to be white? 17:29 16/2/16

It's just below the lineart, Velvet. All of the other blanks have that, so I don't see why these shouldn't. That can be added afterwards, though. And I said the same thing on Skype that I'm gonna say now, the feet are a bit too... flat, for lack of a better word. Using what Berry also said to me, a cat usually walks on their toes, so the only way they'd be completely flat is if they're sitting.

As I said on Skype, the picture Splook based this off has the cat in the exact same pose with her legs on the ground. In fact, my cats' legs are on the ground when she's asking for food in the same position. :/ 04:29, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

The back legs would be up in the air a little bit, as per Skye. Cats do in fact walk on their toesies. 12:47, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Also sorry foe edit spam but the whiskers that are going <== this way off the blank sre bothering me, since the other whiskers are flat against the side of the face. Basically get rid of those whiskers 12:49, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

I think the back legs are fine. I have seen my cat and if you google images of a cat you will find some in this position or with their feet in that position. Just because it's not common doesn't make it inaccurate. 21:03, February 17, 2016 (UTC)

Exactly, Velvet. You bring up an amazing point. Anyways, here's a picture of the legs Splook used: They're not on their toes. Splook's legs are fine. 01:37, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

If someone would like to argue the opposite, may you please draw a redline and show me what it would look like if the legs were altered? 02:05 Thu Feb 18

No, you don't need to change it becuase it's fine. I provided proof that cats legs cna look like it and in general, they can. 02:06, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Hey now, chill. She asked for a redline to see what they'd look like, and there's nothing wrong with that. If she chooses to not do so after the redline is given, then that's fine. But since she did ask for one to support the argument against her, then I think she should be given one. (I can't redline, sorry)

I'm not particularly bothered what happens with the back legs, but is this what you guys had in mind?  15:18 Thu Feb 18 

I can do a redline later, but for now, I'd agree with what others are saying and say that something with the back legs needs to be changed. Yes, cats can lower themselves entirely on the "heel" of their leg (for lack of a better term). But the upper part of the leg would be more stretched out if that were the case, because if the rear is that high in the air, the leg needs to stretch out to compensate for the lower part of the leg being on the ground. You can see it in the picture Icy provided; yes, the lower leg is all on the ground, and you can see how the rear end doesn't appear to be low to the ground, but closer to even with the shoulders. But you can see how the "thigh" (I really don't know the proper words for cat anatomy) is stretch out, not rounded and curled up like drawn here, because it has to stretch out to account for the height lost from the lower leg being on the ground. I probably rambled too much and didn't explain myself very clearly, but I'll do a redline later that will hopefully make what I'm trying to say here clearer. ^^ That, or you could go the direction that Shinx is suggesting and take the lower leg off the ground entirely, so you can keep the bend to the upper leg. Jayie Unwritten words~ 21:51, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Almost a week later. XD http://www.ezimba.com/work/160224C/ezimba11244534222500.png Here's a redline for the legs/back. But I'm not sure I did it totally right. Splook, could you post a link to the full picture you used for a reference, by chance? It might help me figure out how to redline it better, if I can see how low down the back was and such. Anyway, if not, hope this helps. ^^ Jayie  Unwritten words~ 17:11, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

If I'm allowed to ask what's wrong with the old deputy blanks?— Minkclaw River is Beauty, Beauty is Everything. 17:12, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Anatomy issues, mostly. There was a vote on whether or not to redo them and it passed.  <span style="">17:44 Tue Feb 23 

Uhh... I've been thinking about trying to do some of the deputy poses, even though I'm just a kit, so now I'm wondering: are these blanks actually done? I'm having trouble telling XD --Warriorcat1195 (talk) 21:17, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Nope, they're still waiting for be approved.  <span style="">21:26 Wed Feb 24 

They aren't approved yet so /please/ don't rush her. She's also uploading it tonight anyways. 15:11, February 25, 2016 (UTC)

I'm gonna be "that person", but these really do need to be uploaded soon. She's only uploaded twice in February, and while I understand that life can be hell, only uploading twice in a 30 day period isn't quite the best thing. It's not fair to anyone to just have these sit without any activity. Sorry if this is coming off as rude, but I do have a job to do as leader.

reuploaded. Used Jayie's technique with the leg, hope it's fine.

Alright, I deeply apologize for the lack of uploads, but I am really busy. I am swamped with bookwork and studying every single night, and frankly, the wiki is the last thing on my mind at the moment. I know how eager you guys are to do art, and I'm sorry that it's taking this long, but I'm trying my best. I'm not trying to preach at how busy I am or whatever, nor am I defending myself for not uploading, but I'm really trying to cope with all my schoolwork, home things, and this responsibility. I'm working to get these approved, and I'm not going to give up, so please bare with me.

Once again, very sorry, and I'm trying my hardest to go in some sort of direction with the back leg. <span style="">01:53 Tue Mar 1

I'm sure I'll relate to you next year, and I'm scared. But aside from the hind leg being too flat (I wouldn't think that'd be a difficult) I think it looks perfectly fine. Warriorcat1195 (talk) 01:56, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean by "too flat"? It's on the ground and she was using the examples the others gave her. 02:00, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to all of this conversation. I just read some of this, so, uh, nvm (shy chuckle)Warriorcat1195 (talk) 02:20, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

The angle of the lower leg is definitely better. :)Though the lower leg seems too thin now compared to the front legs. The hip is still too rounded - with how stretched out it is, it should be less filled out, and the line should be flatter. I can do another redline for the shorthair, but I show what I meant for that on the longhair redline. The belly line is too far up on both blanks; there isn't enough room to fit the cat's ribcage and belly. Lower it, and make it jut up less on the longhair, if that makes sense. Again, I show it in my redline, but I can redo it/do one for the shorthair/explain myself more clearly if you want. If it's possible, I would really like to see the image you used as a reference (the full image, not the partial image of the legs that Icy posted). It would really help if I could see what you were trying to reference to be able to explain my critiques. I hope that made sense... Jayie  Unwritten words~ 05:29, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

The back legs are not anatomically correct at all tbh. I sent you a redline on skype splook. Also remove the whiskers on the front of the muzzle they shouldnt be showing if the others are going backwards 23:01, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

I'm getting conflicting opinions on the back legs again. Which do I follow now? <span style="">23:53 Tue Mar 1

The redline jayie provided here, I think. The haunch is much thinner and closer to the bum and less round... That's how it'd be in a cat standing like this. In addition to that, the longhair's tail should look more like that at the top, as it looks unnatural rn. <span style="">00:22, 03/2/2016

I'm sorry to repeat myself, but it would make it a lot easier to show what I meant if you gave the link for your reference... I saw the partial picture Icy provided, and I was having trouble telling the position of the back and the other hind leg were from that partial shot. Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:50, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

I believe this is the image you used as reference from looking at the picture Icy posted I found what I believe is it. 18:24, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

can you move the tails more to the left slightly? they look much too long and stretched out at the base of the tail as they are right now, especially the longhaired one. and I'm probably just being picky with this one but maybe move them up a couple pixels too, they seem too...low? 16:05, March 5, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Velvetmoon. :) After looking at the reference image, I made this redline. Hope this helps: http://www.ezimba.com/work/160306C/ezimba11244574207200.png Jayie  Unwritten words~ 18:37, March 5, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded. thank you so much jayie! there's probably still issues with the longhair's tail since i had to redo it to put it closer to the body, as well as some other minor things, but it's getting there, lol. <span style="">02:33 Sun Mar 6

No problem. :) The belly is still much too thin on both, and there's a few other little changes. I made a new redline for both the longhair and the shorthair: http://www.ezimba.com/work/160307C/ezimba11244514440400.png http://www.ezimba.com/work/160307C/ezimba11244520061500.png Hope they help. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 21:45, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

I feel like the tip of the long hairs tail is drooping to much but know looking at jayie's redline I think that will fix it though. 18:54, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

No I haven't forgotten about these. Sorry if it sounds like I'm full of excuses but on monday I started drum major tryouts which takes about 3 hours after school of physical exercise. I'm coming home completely exhausted, extremely sore, doing my schoolwork, and then going to bed. Tryouts will be done next Thursday and I would really appreciate your patience with me. Just letting you know that I haven't forgotten about this. I promise I'll get to them. Thanks again. -- <span style="">23:07 Thu Mar 17

Splook, if it makes you feel better I think this looks amazing, and tbh I have no clue how anyone is spotting such minor flaws! Warriorcat1195 (talk) 16:48, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

The back looks a little short; maybe add some more "weight" in lack of a better term  to the haunches  08:25, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry if this has already been pointed out, but I don't think the entire foot should be flat on the back legs. The heels should be raised off the ground a little. I can't describe it any better than that, I'm sorry. <span style="">11:29 Sun Mar 20

Rain (TAQ) (Ro) ~ For Approval
I've never really done this before so I tried with this one :)

Define the shading. 18:34, March 15, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this better?

Define the shading on the legs and tail. Also, where's the light coming from?  <span style="">20:42 Tue Mar 15 

Define the head shading as well. Add earpink, or define it if it's there (sorry my monitor is bad I can't tell). 20:45, March 15, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded I did what you said above^^ but I think I might need to define it a little more on the next upload. I'm not really sure about the light source, I think it's coming straight at the image.

Define the shading on the face? Jayie Unwritten words~ 17:30, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Define the shading depth and smooth it on the legs a bit. (I haven't gotten my glasses in yet so if I'm seeing it as blotchy but it isn't then ignore the smoothing part.) <span style="">13:01 Thu Mar 17

Reuploaded I tried :3

Smooth out the shading a bit more, and define the earpink. 22:00, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded

This is gorgeous. Comments before approval? 02:46, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

the shading is leaking away from the linart on his back and it still seems flat, and I can't see it on the tail. 05:06, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed it on the back and defined the tail shading.

I think the shading could be defined some more it looks sort of cloudy? 16:24, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Idk can't really define it too much more or it looks funny.

Could you smooth it out more it looks streaky. Sorry for all this. 17:15, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Idk I'm getting conflicting comments on whether to smooth or define so this is the result for now :3

Spookycat, this is amazing! I do think that the shading in the middle of his/her body (haven't read the book yet) could be blurred a bit more, or smudged or something. Just that one section. Warriorcat1195 (talk) 21:38, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Reups

Wasptail (A) - For Approval
Will tweak shoulder stripes and shading tint. <span style="">20:09 Tue Mar 15

Define the earpink. 21:00, March 15, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="">22:39 Tue Mar 15

CBA?

I'm sorry, but I can barely see the shading on this.

Reuploaded <span style="">12:54 Sat Mar 19

The shading looks a little dark. Mind lightening it just a tad? 17:47, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded <span style="">01:01 Sun Mar 20

Flame (R) ~ For Evaluation
I have no idea who this cat is but I think she's beautiful Warriorcat1195 (talk) 20:33, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Her description doesn't cite her having stripes, but idk if it was in the book but not on her article yet.

ginger cats automatically get stripes. define the shading on the body, and please don't align the image next time. 20:43, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean by align the image? Warriorcat1195 (talk) 20:53, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oh, I think I know what you mean. Sorry, but I don't really like source mode, so I hit "Add topic" and then it puts you in visual, and then you hit "Add photo" and then if you don't align it it ends up on the wrong side. Anyway, fixed it. Probably. Warriorcat1195 (talk) 21:05, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Could you smudge the stripes more please. 21:37, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Define head shading and shading on the far front paw 02:13, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Actually define the shading everywhere, or just add some more depth. 11:30, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

maybe make her less neon too. 13:36, March 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) D87E35 is a good color to use for your ginger base. ^^ Smudge the white and define the shading on the legs. I actually think overall, like Icy said, would be a good idea as well. I also suggest adding a couple smaller stripes in various places throughout the image, such as the feet and other areas where there's a good amount of space between the stripes.

Reuploaded alright I tried that color "code" you suggested, and personally I think that looked terrible (no offense). It just seemed to dark for a cat that was named Flame. I blurred the ginger and stripes a little bit, added more stripes, and defined shading (I think) Warriorcat1195 (talk) 22:01, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

I still think it needs to be less neon including the stripes which could also be made less squiggly. 23:05, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading a bit more overall, and add some light to the legs and tail. 23:38, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded redid the stripes altogether to keep them from being squiggly. Defined shading and added highlights to the legs and tail. However I think I accidentally made the stripes disappear on the legs and tail. Just noticed that. Let me go fix it.... Warriorcat1195 (talk) 14:30, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded redid shading altogether. I made it thick enough that defining shouldn't be necessary but blurred it enough that you can still see the stripes. I'm begging you not to make me define the shading anymore because I don't want to have to do that again!!! It's annoying redoing the shading. Warriorcat1195 (talk) 14:55, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, but it looks like either there is no shading on the legs or it takes up the entire leg and is overblurred. I have looked on multiple screens, and no matter which one I look on, the shading looks the same. I'm sorry, but can you please define the light source and shading on the legs? I know messing with shading gets annoying, but it really needs to have the light source and shading defined. According to the light source on the rest of the body, the shading should only be on --> side of the legs. Also, define the shading depth. None of this requires redoing the shading. <span style="">15:16 Fri Mar 18

Alright, the legs won't be difficult, but I'm unsure what you mean by adding depth to the shading. Warriorcat1195 (talk) 17:49, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Warriorcat1195 (talk) 18:00, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

This probably comes from my own preference but I think this color is way too neon.

Well every time I change the color of the ginger it adds waste outside the lineart, and since it's not translucent like shading the magic wand can't really get it so getting rid of the waste takes FOREVER, so unless others agree I'd rather not try to edit it, if you understand. Warriorcat1195 (talk) 16:44, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the ear pink and colour the nose in. 16:22, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded the nose was already colored in. Also somehow my shading and ear pink layers got merged, so that explains what happened to the ear pink. I fixed it. I'm just curious, despite me being a kit, could this eventually get posted on Flame's page? Warriorcat1195 (talk) 21:33, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

When it's approved, yes. And I'm sorry, but I agree that you do need to change the color, it's far too neon.  <span style="">22:04 Sat Mar 19 

Dang it. I'm on my phone right now so I'll get to it later or tomorrow. Warriorcat1195 (talk) 22:57, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Do you want me to make it paler or darker? Warriorcat1195 (talk) 11:37, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Just... less bright? Duller? The color Jayce suggested earlier (#D87E35) is good.  <span style="">13:47 Sun Mar 20 

Reuploaded this is as much as I'm willing to give. The color you suggested to me looks awful with the color of the stripes, but when I went to change the color of the stripes it made them much too thick and the whole thing looked terrible. But now it's not neon and the colors still work together. If you really think I have to use the suggested color, I'll use it and redo the stripes, but I think this is an easier solution. Warriorcat1195 (talk) 19:15, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

This is to pastel in my opinion it needs to be deeper. Can I recommend this #D96805. No cat would be this pastel and I still think the stripes are too neon. Maybe make them this colour #B45604. Also can you define/deepen the shading. Sorry for all this. 20:05, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

I have used this color many times on countless images and gotten them approved; it's not "too pastel". The color is perfectly fine. =/

The base is good, but perhaps make the stripes darker/less saturated? Personally they look like they are clashing a bit. Feel free to leave it if you disagree or want to get a second opinion on it though. It's not to terribly neon (and I am in the middle of a migraine episode) but they appear just a little too bright on the base. <span style="">00:21 Mon Mar 21

Chiveclaw (MC) ~ For Approval
Don't know how I feel about this. 22:29, March 16, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading and give it a bit more shape. Darken it too.

Could you also blur it? it seems very hard-edged. 02:14, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload played around with the shading. 08:13, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Blur it some more, especially on the chest. And define the eye depth. 11:29, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload 23:04, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Make the texture flow better with the body, especially on the back/stomach and haunch. <span style="">07:44 Sat Mar 19

Sorry what do you mean? 16:20, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

the texture should follow the cat's anatomy rather than going down in straight lines. 00:06, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload fixed texture. 10:51, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Smudge/blur/whatever the shading on the close back leg, and define the light on the other three legs and the tail please  <span style="">13:46 Sun Mar 20 

Reupload :) 20:01, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Raven (TAQ) (Ro) ~ For Approval
an easy one for once 09:33, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading please. 16:20, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded 23:37, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Alderpaw (MCA) - For Approval
This image is frustrating me so I'm just going to post it. I'll fix it up more later. 17:45, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the tail shading please?  <span style="">13:44 Sun Mar 20 

Re-uploaded. 22:57, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Willowshine (MC) ~ For Approval
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Needlepaw (K) ~ For Approval
this reminds me of undyne. complicated and never able to beat. 02:05, March 21, 2016 (UTC)