Warriors Wiki talk:Characters

Burr
In the Warriors Adventure Game setting The Plaintive Howls, there is a rogue named Burr. I think this cat should get it's individual page. He should be considered a character, but because how he appears....I don't know if we should add him. Comments? 11:14, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it counts. If characters from The Warriors App count, this should too. 23:33, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Agreeable, but does he have a description?

Nevermind. That is PCA's job. But if other characters from the app have characters, so should he.

PCA's job is to provide characters with art, not a description. ;) 05:39, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Pretty sure he's a Tom....should we go ahead and make the page? 19:01, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

He should get a page, but due to him being a non-canonicity character, we need to decide what his page would look like as we have none non-canonicity characters so far. 04:57, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I think we could still format it out regularly, like Nutmeg's. 10:42, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

And yet Nutmeg is a canon character. Burr is non-canon. 13:43, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

I think he should still have a history section. For his "appearance" xD 00:00 Thu Feb 9

I agree he should get a page. it could have a main quote (if appliable), a description, then the spoiler warning, then the history with book mentions, then a trivia, then character pixels (if appliable), then quotes (if appliable), and end of spoiler warning. For the history, it could have "Fading Echoes" in replace of the "In the Omen of the Stars Series" (check in source mode to see what it said << there), and then "The Plaintive Howls" in replace of "Fading Echoes", then the history will start as usuall. 06:06, Thu, Feb, 9, 2012

DJ, you made a typo with the category link, so I fixed it. Anyways, yes, Burr should still get a page. If the characters from the App get one, so does Burr. Also, how is Burr not a canon character? He wasn't fanmade, but instead created by HC for the Warriors Adventure games. If you ask me, that's still canon, since it's technically part of the Warriors universe. 06:14, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

I view it as the Warriors Adventure Games are like role-play, plus the games are created by Stan! It's debatable, but if we are to make a page I'd view it as "In the Warriors Adventure Game"; "The Plaintive Howls". There would probably be no need for quotes and art. 02:11, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Regardless of who they're created by, HarperCollins published them in an actual Warriors book (erm..books xD). If it wasn't considered a part of the series, then why in the world would they be put into the back of an official book? Yes, it might count as some form of RP, and what you said would be a good idea. If it wasn't meant to be part of the series, then it probably would have only gone on that blasted "official website".... instead of in the books. I don't even consider that website official, run by HC or not... 02:16, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well, maybe we could put up a "non-canon banner" and list the page as a stub until we have all necessary info. Would he still be treated like he was a minor character in the series? 20:10, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

We're probably never going to be able to fill in all the nessecary info due to short introduction in the game. I would say he's a minor character because depending on whoever plays the game, then it's their jurisdiction. 23:12, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

No one's commented on this in almost a month. Should we have a final answer? 05:22, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Burr 00:00, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Translated Character Names?
I know it's weird to see me making a proposal for a project I don't belong to, but hear me out. I'd like to propose that the translations of each character's name be added to a new section in each character article. It could just be at the bottom, in a chart that listed the language in one column and the translated names in another. I think it could be interesting, and I know we have members of this wiki that speak a language other than English primarily. In fact, to start off I have the names of most of the characters in German and English right here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. Just an idea. Putting it out there. 15:48, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

I think it'd be a great addition to the character articles. 16:00 Mon Jan 30

I think it's a good idea. 16:36, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. How many languages will be do? It seems like a good idea, though. 23:43, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

It makes sense to me.

Probably all of those available if we do this. Honestly, I'm not sure about doing this due to the problem of having unknowing users and/or anons adding in names that could've come straight from google translate, or misleading us by putting something inaccurate in another language. Also, there are hundreds of characters, most minor characters, that might not be worth bothering with due to the fact that this is an English wiki. However, I would find the how the names differ from English interesting, and I do think this idea is intriguing, but there's also the alternative option of just expanding the Warriors Translations page. 23:54, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Atelda, there are so many characters, and we might as well just expand the Warriors Translations page. It is an interesting suggestion though. 04:55, Tue, Jan, 31, 2012

Maybe just list main and major characters on the translations page? Really, it's quite fascinating. Rusty was called Sammy in German. :3 04:59, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

I think taking the chart and separating the characters from it onto another chart would be the most helpful. The entire page could use some organization, but I think that would fall at least in part to Project Reality. 21:32, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking about that as well. Just make a new page containing the different translations of warrior names. The page could also fall into Project:World ^^. 23:02, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. If this is going into another project, then we should discuss this on either PR or PW's talk page. 00:33, Wed, Feb, 1, 2012

Except it isn't. The translations of character names would still technically fall to us. I just pointed out that the rest of the page could be brought up to snuff by other projects as well. 00:44, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

We could put in the trivia, saying, "in this version, he/She was called this name" or something like that. 18:59, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Nah, I think it would work best either exclusively on the translations page or in a new section on every page. The easiest thing to do would be the translations page, of course. 19:47, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

It'd be better organized in a template, or in another section. For now, I'd say we add another translations page of which would just feature names. Other opinions? 04:59, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

I really should rejoin this project sometime.... I think you should make another section for it. Like on Bulbapedia, for any of you pokemon fans, they have a whole section for the name of the pokemon or character in different languages. I think it'd be the most logical thing to do. I think listing them somewhere is a great idea though. :) 03:58, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Join us grammy I think making a new section would be a good idea. 16:52 Sun Feb 12

Again, I bring up the fact that we have an extensive amount of characters in the series. I'm still skeptical about having another section for the characters due to the incompleteness it'd be for a long while. Once we've used up the internet to find the names in other languages, we'd be leaving many characters without that name section, and leave it up to those one or two users from other countries who are active. Perhaps I'm overestimating on the amount of work that is needed to get this done, and underestimating on how much of that work will get done. 17:07, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well, couldn't we just use something like google translate?

Nope. The names truly depend on how the translator adopts the name into another language. Take Squirrelflight's name in German for example. In German, her name is Eichhornschweif. Translate that through Google Translate and you get "suirrel's tail". 23:42, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. Guess that's out of the picture then. Personally, I think this would be a good thing to do once the books are done being released or when the project is slow. It wouldn't really be a good idea to do it now.

It'll probably be a long time before the project slows down, but I do agree that we should wait for a break and then discuss the possibility of this. ^^. 17:56, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Me too. 07:33, 29, 02, 2012

I agree with Atelda. 01:53, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Brightheart - Gold Nomination
Because the the forum wasn't very specific in what was needed to expand in her article, I was unsure what to expand, but I expanded a few sections. Comments? 00:30, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Expand Sign of the Moon if possible.

Darn, I was gonna do this. ;3 Expand Firestar's Quest, Midnight, Dawn, Sunset and Outcast, if you can. 8D 00:44 Thu Feb 9

Maybe add another quote if possible?

If you can expand Forest of Secrets, Starlight, Dark River, Eclipse, Sunrise and The Fourth Apprentice. If you can't I understand. We are throwing a lot at you. 02:16, Sun, Feb, 12, 2012

Sign of the Moon and all the books Sweet mentioned are done. I did the last bit of expanding on Forest of Secrets a few minutes ago. Onto the rest of what DJ said. x3 02:47, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Cab you possibly detail The Lost Warrior a bit more? 18:50, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

"Cab", lol. :P Anyways, did that^^ and expanded what you said, DJ. 00:55, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Well, first of all, it's in really good shape, you've done a wonderful job, Atelda. Could you expand Twilight, please? 04:16, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Great job Teldy! If you can, possibly expand The Sight, A Clan in Need, and see if she was mentioned any more in Fire and Ice. 07:53, 29, 02, 2012

-headdesk- And you couldn't have thought to comment 8 days ago? x3 Twilight is done, I actually deleted most of Fire and Ice due to it being filled with assumptions and there isn't anything I could add. I'll get on The Sight. 04:42, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

The Sight is done :3 04:34, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Er... CBV? 23:32, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Well...vote is up! 01:51, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Birdpaw ~ Silver Nomination
I added a quote (The only quote I could find in the browse inside XD)

If anyone has the two books she's in, and can find an epic quote, I'll probably be very grateful, because I have got no money to buy the book yet XD.

And since I'm pretty new to this, I was wondering a couple things (I was wondering if she needs to be bronze first before being Silver XD) A star, a star,  dancing in the sky...   01:37, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yep, it needs to be bronze first. :P Hmm...Look for a main quote, also, (IMO) the quote you have now describes Sol more. 01:40, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

IMO? Confused face. Okay, I can TRY and get the book, and find something better for the main quote XD.I can't garuntee I can get it though, as I am looking for a job, and failing epically XD A star, a star,  dancing in the sky...   01:43, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion. ;3 I'll try to find some quotes also. 01:52 Sat Feb 11

Detail the overall history some more if you can. Or possibly smoothen the history out, it seems somewhat choppy to me. 02:08, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

I added a quote for ya. 02:17 Sat Feb 11

I probably can't add more history yet, since I don't have the books, I could probably smoothen it out though A star, a star,  dancing in the sky...   03:01, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Done smoothing out the history? 02:06, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

I'm working on it, I've been busy with school and stuff. A star, a star,  dancing in the sky...  01:16, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Also, could you be a bit more specific on what you mean by smoothen out, because the history looks fine to me (She isn't seen very much except in the two books X) A star, a star, <sup style="font-family:Arial Bold;color:#8B0A50"> dancing in the sky...   14:49, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

The history looks fine to me...but could you find a main quote? If you need help, I can give you a few suggestions, since I have the books in which she appears. 05:52, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Yes please, I don't have the book XD. A star, a star, <sup style="font-family:Arial Bold;color:#8B0A50"> dancing in the sky...  01:33, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

I added a few quotes for you, as well as a main quote. If you want to, feel free to change them around. She doesn't speak a whole lot, actually. 02:51, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Cloud XD A star, a star, <sup style="font-family:Arial Bold;color:#8B0A50"> dancing in the sky...   21:07, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 23:25, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Vote is up! 01:51, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Falcon Swoop ~ Silver Nomination
'kay, let's try this one again, shall we? She doesn't appear much, so there's not a lot to work with when it comes to detail. 02:27, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. Possibly add a description to the quote in the Quote section. 21:29, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Done. I don't need to attack the history on this one, since I re-wrote it last time I nominated it...and it got declined 'cause I had internet issues. 21:34, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Any other quotes for her? Otherwise her page looks good to me. •Cheshire• ♣Happy St. Patrick's Day!♣ 00:03, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

This page is already on the CBV list. Plus, I can't add anything else for her. I've already looked multiple times. 00:05, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

(Headdesk) Sorry about that. •Cheshire• ♣Happy St. Patrick's Day!♣ 00:06, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Just a note. Even if an article is on the CBV list doesn't mean it's closed for commenting. Anyways, CBV? 23:25, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Vote is up! 01:51, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Brook ~ Silver Nomination
Her article looks good, but I know it could be improved. That's why I'm re-writing her history. =D Comments? 20:08, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Woo, re-writing history ftw. Any more quotes? 04:24, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

I'll find one or two while rewriting the history. I'm really fond of the one she has as her main quote, so I don't think I'll change that, unless the others agrees. 04:27, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, no, I like the main quote too, it describes her well. And just whenever you can, about the other quotes, and if you can find any good ones. 04:38, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I've taken care of Moonrise, Dawn, Twilight, Eclipse and Cats of the Clans. I think Sunset looks fine, and I'll tackle The Sight, Dark River and Outcast in the morning. Comments so far? 07:18, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

I've rewritten her entire history, save for Sunset (I think it's fine), and the quotes that were already there look good enough to me. Anyone have any comments? 04:19, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

It looks great as far as history. I have no critisizm for this. 04:35, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Neither do I. CBV? 02:39, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Looks good to me.

Maple, you can't CBV votes...only the leads can...xD 02:41, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I am a derp, never mind. I had NO clue you were an SW. 02:42, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

She's a Senior Warrior.

I'm actually going to put this on the CBV list because there are other nominations that were nominated before this that are also ready for vote. 23:53, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 23:25, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Vote is up! 01:51, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Merry - Silver Nomination
I rewrote her history, nothing I can really expand or detail upon, I added the only quote that really described her personality. Comments? 21:12, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Are there any other quotes? Looks amazing! 8D 23:31, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. CBV? 12:40, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Same with this one ^^. (Also, no more quotes). 23:53, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 23:25, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Vote is up! 01:51, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Oakfur ~ Silver Nomination
Weell, the votes ended, and I managed to get this to load so... I love this dude, he's pretty awesome :P Comments? (I'll get another quote if I can) <span style="">23:26 Fri Feb 17

Psh, he's from ShadowClan, of course he's awesome. xD Could you possibly expand Sunset and Twilight? 04:33, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Of course! Because all ShadowClan cats are epic! But I can't expand either of them. <span style="">18:58 Sun Feb 19

Add another quote? <span style="">06:01, 01, 03, 2012

I don't think I can. I couldn't find any that really described him. <span style="">13:45 Sun Mar 4

Running Fox ~ Silver Nomination
Awww! I just love the name Running Fox, reminds me of the cute foxes in our bush. ;3 Well, I can't expand the history becuase of his extrememly minor appearence, and he can't speak, so I doubt he has any quotes. x3 Comments? <span style="">00:01 Sat Feb 18

Kind of hate to ask, but can you detail the history at all? If you can't, never mind. 04:26, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

If you can, can you add a quote from the narrator, if there is one. Looks great! 23:30, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, you made me look through the book and I expanded SoTM a lot. :P I'll start on LS in a moment. I'm adding one quote now, and the other ones that I found don't really describe him even if it is a dialouge quote. <span style="">18:21 Sun Feb 19

Frogleap ~ Silver Nomination
I added bronze status to him...Comments? There isn't to much to expand, if I'm not mistaken. 23:33, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Try to see if a couple more quotes can be found. Perhaps some dialogues? They really help tie the article together. Also, in the history, I've noticed incredibly vague phrases such as "Frogleap is seen with Loudbelly tracking through the reedbed." Why are they in the reed bed? Try to see if you can expand on these kinds of phrases without detracting too much from Frogleap himself. 00:23, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Moonflight--try to expand/detail the article where you can. Near the end, the history says something like, "Frogleap is seen rushing into battle, but he is pushed back by Hailstar." Could you explain which battle Frogleap was rushing into and detail that whole paragraph in particular? 01:29, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

I added another dialogue quote, and fixed up the history (I read the book, and the history was mess up on the article), and detailed most of it. 06:18, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Owlstar - Silver Nomination
Haven't done this in a while. All he really needed was some quotes. 13:40, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

I think it looks great.

Pineclaw ~ Silver Nomination
I think he looks good. I'll try to find a quote or two more if there are any. Comments? 14:07, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Expand his history if you can anymore. <span style="">23:12 Sun Feb 19

I added the little more I could find. 15:00, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Mothwhisker ~ Silver Nomination
I believe I am doing this right... It looks as detailed as possible, in my opinion, for such a minor character. ^^ So, any comments? <font face="Segeo Script"> ~Pouncey!  <font face="Segeo Script"><font color="#ee1289">"Aloha!" "You're  Hawaiian?" <font color="#ee1289">"No..." <font color="#ee1289"> x3 16:59, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Can you detail the second paragraph in his history a bit more? :3 19:06, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Add another quote if you can and expand his appearance. <span style="">23:04 Wed Feb 22

I read the article, and I find that the history's somewhat choppy. Can you try to smooth out the history? If you can't, it's fine, it might be just me. -- 03:43, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

I'm having a little trouble getting the book, but I'll have it hopefully by Monday :x I'll work on smoothing out the paragraph, but the quotes and detail might have to wait a bit. ☾ <span style="color:lightblue;font-family:Freestyle Script;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 3em 3em 15em; color:white;">~Pouncey~ ☽  18:20, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I added more detail to his appearance and history and added a quote. 22:22, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Cedarheart ~ Silver Nomination
I worked a lot on his article, and I think he's ready. :) Comments? 18:16, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm...looks good, Misty. For Starlight, could you possibly expand on he and the rest of the patrol did when they confronted Brambleclaw? Also, can you find another quote? Try looking in Battles of the Clans, if you can. 18:20, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Added a new quote, and expanded as much as I could into Starlight. 18:44, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Can you still try expanding Battles of the Clans some more? 04:51, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Expanded Battles of the Clans as much as I could. 02:06, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Ebonyclaw ~ Silver Nomination
I worked on her article a bit more, and here she is. Comments? 01:34, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Whoop whoop! Go females with -claw in their name! :3 Expand The Rescue and is it possible to find one or two more quotes? Otherwise it looks fine.

Is there a main quote that describes her personality more, like one of the ones that said she was a good warrior despite being a kittypet? 05:17, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Yep, Ebonyclaw is awesome. x3 I can't expand The Rescue anymore, sorry. Those were the only times she was mentioned/seen. Switched the main quote and I am now looking for more. (quotes are my worst enemy o.o) 02:07, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Added a new quote. >.<  22:53, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Working Revamp
Okay, so I got an idea while looking at another wiki, here. There's a template in the top that says a user is currently working on revamping the article, and only minor edits should be made without permission of that user. If someone wanted to add something, they'd have to contact the user in question. I was thinking we could have these. For example, Shelly is editing and revamping Brackenfur, so we could add it to his article until she's finished. 04:28, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and the text in the template says, ''This article is currently being reworked by USER in order to achieve a better status. We ask that edits to this article are only minor or gramatical in nature until this warning is removed, in order to not disrupt the major revamp. Should you wish to participate in the revamp, please contact the editor at work.'' There's a link to the user's talk page where it says, "the editor at work". 04:30, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

That wouldn't be half bad of an idea. Case and point for me: I just rewrote almost all of Brook's history. I wouldn't want a user coming in and messing up what I worked hard on. I mean, it may seem like a user is "claiming" an article, but, it would cause less edit conflicts. 8D 04:31, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

You know, I really like this idea. I support this. Good idea, Oblivion! 04:35, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

I support this idea too. I agree with everything that has been said above ^^ 04:52, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

I agree, good point Oblivion! Could we also have a thing where if 2+ users are working on it together, it could say "This article is currently being reworked by USERNAME, USERNAME and USERNAME ". I <3 this idea. 8D <span style="">05:16, Mon, Feb, 20, 2012

Great point Loonie! Agreeing what was said 100%. 14:50, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

This makes sense to me.

Good idea Loonie! :) <span style="">22:54 Thu Feb 23

This is a great idea! I actually wonder why it wasn't brought up before. 09:33, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

This is a good idea, however what concerns me is the fact that a user cannot edit something within the article without consent of the person who nominated it at that current moment. In fact, that is like "claiming" an article. True, you wouldn't want someone to mess up your work, but is "your work" really your work? Keep in mind that articles are the result of multiple contributors editing the article over many months or even years. Yes, Cloudskye did rewrite Brook's history, but what about the other conventions of the article? Such as family, description, citations, etc. This somewhat sounds like putting a user's name on the article and then claiming it as their own for a moment in time. I'm sorry, but this seems too much like claiming an article to me. 17:56, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I have to agree with Atelda here. She makes a great point. This is a wiki, and wikis are made up of active contributors, not one single contributor. We cannot limit the editing of a user, because our combined edits is what forms a good wiki and a maybe even a good article. 18:12, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

(Holly's about to shoot herself in the foot) Yeah, in the way it's currently suggested, it could easily be seen by others as someone claiming an article. But rather than tossing out the idea entirely, maybe we could just say, "This article is currently being worked on to achieve a higher status." Or something along those lines. 21:10, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. We don't want anybody to be claiming it, but I agree with what Holly is saying.

But isn't that what we're doing to all articles? Don't you edit an article to make it better? 21:14, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. What are you saying then? 21:15, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I can see where they're coming from, though. Say if someone wanted to nominated Firestar for silver status (yes, I know he's already been nominated and all), and they rewrote the entire article before nominating it...and someone else nominated it before they got the chance. Now, if I were the editor of the article, I would be peeved, since I'd put a lot of work into that article. Having someone else nominate your work and taking credit for it is just unfair. 21:19, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with what Cloud is saying. That would be unfair.

I'm still with 'teldy here. We have to assume goof faith, right? So it's not like every user is going to destroy your work the moment they hit the publish button. We simply can't prevent users from editing. And things can't be perfect either, if a user kinda ruins something, well, life's got challenges. 21:26, February 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * assume good faith* Oops. Dx -- 21:27, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I can see having this if you don't want someone to nominate the article after you worked so hard on it. •Cheshire• ♣Happy St. Patrick's Day!♣ 21:29, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, and taking credit is quite unethical, however has this happened? I'm going to quote Kitsu in a previous discussion: "It's one thing to let others know you're doing heavy edits to avoid conflicts, but understand that in defense of this idea that someone can "take an article from someone else", since when has anyone ever owned an article on this wiki?"

In any case, project members are encouraged to help out each other in improving the articles so they can attain the certain grade.

To put up a template that says something like "This article is currently being worked on to achieve a higher status." would mean that we'd probably have to put a template on every article. What I mean is that every edit I do to an article is to have it achieve a higher status whether it be to take out an unprofessional phrase or add in a family tree. All articles are being worked on to achieve a higher status. 21:41, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I see what you mean Atelda. •Cheshire• ♣Happy St. Patrick's Day!♣ 21:43, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

When I said that, I meant putting that on a page that was undergoing a nomination (for example, the three that I'm working on right now, Talonpaw, Hollowflight, and Sol's Father). If anything, I'd rephrase what I said before as, "This article is currently undergoing a nomination for a higher status." Either way, you have a good point, Atelda. 22:03, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

That would make sense so that there is no "double" nominations which I am not sure that has happened. •Cheshire• ♣Happy St. Patrick's Day!♣ 22:05, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Atelda has a valid point, and I like Hollydapple's suggestion. Besides, it's sorta discouraging users to edit pages when that sign is up basically saying not to edit the page unless your so-an'-so. <span style="">00:14 Mon Feb 27

Well people on the wiki try to contribute and I don't really think that there should be a header saying not to make a lot of changes. Users have the right to edit a page whether or not it is being worked on by another user, that is unless false information is being inserted into the articles. But I actually don't know where I stand on this idea. The only idea I could see is something saying "This page is currently being nominated for --- status. Please don't nominate it as it is currently being done." though I don't see the use for that really. 00:21 Feb 27

I see no point in putting up a template saying this article is currently going under nomination. But again, each user has the right to edit an article, major or minor edit, going under reconstruction or not, they have that right. Each article is under property of the wiki and PC, not a single user. <span style="">01:28, 03, 03, 2012

Macgyver - Silver Nomination
I rewrote some of his history, added a main quote, and three supporting quotes. Comments? 04:45, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Can you try expanding the last paragraph of his history? Looks great! 06:16, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything to expand on, though, the fact I'm trying to read that part off a nook surely doesn't help. :P 04:10, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Honestly I don't see anything to improve on. Well done!

Chez, please don't comment if your going to say it's nice, it's unneeded. And if you don't comment they know it's fine. (No offence) <span style="">00:03 Mon Mar 5

Runningnose ~ Silver Nomination
So I looked through his history and thought it was pretty good. I also added some quotes last night. Comments? 14:55, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Expand all sections of the history if yu can. <span style="">17:03 Wed Feb 22

I expanded as much as I could. 22:45, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

The article looks good, but could you change the main quote? To me, it seems like it describes Littlecloud more than Runningnose. 01:50, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Adding Ages to Character Charts?
Hey everyone~ I'm here to do what I do: make suggestions.

I'm of the opinion that, for characters we have this information on anyway, we should include ages on charcats. (For dead cats, it'd be the age they died at.)

In example, on Firestar's chart it'd say that he is approximately 7 years of age.

We'd only do this for characters we know the ages of, without guessing at it, and doing this would allow us to provide even more information on characters than we already do. Not to mention, with out handy Events Timeline, it'd be a snap.

Comments? 00:15, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I love this idea Shelly! But of course, only some cats will get ages. You have my support. 00:37, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, only some cats: the major characters. I like this idea. <span style="">00:38, 25, 02, 2012

I like it! 8D Where would it be added though? Just on the Charcat? I think thatd be the best place. And can we just put unknown for the age, rather than leaving it off? Anons will probably eventually start to ask why there's no ages on some, but I think it'd be fine if it just said unknown. But anyways, great idea. ^^ 00:39, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

^^ Yeah. It'l bring up contributive edits for sure. 00:41, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like this too! 8D I agree with Paleh for it to be on the charcat. @Rowan, this isn't about getting edits up, but for improving the articles. 00:44, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

-Shall be the pessimistic one- While this is a good idea, don't you think it'd be a bit odd to add in ages of only a few characters, meanwhile about maybe 65% - 75% of the characters would be missing this information? Only few characters would have this available information, thus I'm not convinced of making it a part of a characters article.

There's also the bit about years. Since all character articles use the terms used within the books, wouldn't it be odd to use a "human term"? An easy substitute is that would be using the term, "moon", however that'd also add a bit more precision to our estimates. And even with the timeline, I feel like we'd still be guessing at the age of a particular cat.

Anyways, my little outtake on this idea. Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea, but I don't think we should carry out given the pros and cons presented currently. 03:42, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I understand your concerns, and I'll carefully debunk them in order:

1: How many of our character articles ever have everything there may be to have on them? Some have post-death residence, some don't, all depending on whether or not we actually know where they ended up when they died. This is the same exact concept. Nothing different. Making it a part of the character articles will allow us to provide all of the information we have on characters, which is our job.

2: Sure, we can go with moons if you're concerned about terminology. But I think approx. years or even approx. seasons would work as well. Not everything we do on here has to follow Clan vernacular.

3: Our timeline has the information down as best as we know it, which is the best that the books provide, which is as accurate as it's going to get. We know that Firestar is 7, nearly 8. Dovewing and Ivypool are both 1, nearly 2. When Lionheart died, he was approximately 5.

I still think that this is a good idea, in short. 04:13, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Strange. I suggested this months ago and it got shot down :S  04:37, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I refuse to be shot down. ಠ益ಠ 04:38, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

XD We all love Shelly's argument mode. But, this is a great idea. In my opinion, this could actually really improve the articles. And maybe, when they find out all these ages, people will stop tormenting Firestar's age xD 09:31, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, Shelly. Dat face. Both Shelly and Atelda have good points. If we decide to go through with this it would be a terrific addition to character pages. 01:31, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Shelly's points have proven that this is still in the running for going in the charcats. I agree still. <span style="">01:35, 03, 03, 2012

I agree with this idea. 14:56, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

So shall this go to a vote or can we just do it? 01:48, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

It's a simple matter to resolve, but shall the ages be in moons or year? Also, we have a citation (how to cite it will be a different matter if decided on)? Otherwise, we need only to add it to the template and add it to the characters. 01:57, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I think moons, with years in parenthesis. Or seasons would work better, even... And yeah, citations are important. Adding it to the templates should be easy, too. 02:02, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sol's Father - Silver Nomination
Sol's father wins Parent of the Year. It isn't like I, uh, already had the information needed for this in the back of my mind thanks to a certain other nomination. Sarcasm aside, I rewrote the history and added quotes. His article was already fairly complete, so...yeah. Let me know if you want me to change the main quote. Comments? 02:00, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about this, guys, my browser bugged up on me. Dx 02:01, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Can you switch the main quote to a different one, possibly? That one seems more like a Cinders quote then one for Sol's Father. I mean, yeah, it's got good information, but, it just doesn't seem like a good main quote. The other ones you have on there are excellent, and the article is very well detailed for him only appearing a few pages. 21:03, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Cloudy. About the main quote, I was sort of thinking that as I put it up, but I decided to leave it in on the off chance someone else might think it worked. Dunno if this new main quotes is any better. It shows what a loving parent he was. While I'm here, I might as well mention there aren't any other quotes--any of the others I saw would just be...excessive, decadent? The rest is just Cinders complaining about what a good-for-nothing he is, and the article really only needed one of those, to show their relationship. 03:28, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

His page looks good to me. Maybe reword 2nd paragraph? 00:23, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Done. 02:08, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Wing Shadow Over Water ~ Silver Nomination
I kid you not, there is nothing more that can be done with this article. I've maxed out everything, and there are only a few times where she speaks. Comments? 22:26, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

You're right. =) It's all good. 23:18, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Something Of Importance
Hey, everyone. This is pretty important, so you might want to take a read.

I was just going through some articles and I checked Dustpelt's page, seeing that there was a missing citation. I decided, on a whim, to go through and check the other citations to make sure they matched up with the books.

Only one out of six was factual. The rest were fabricated.

This got me paranoid about the citations on the descriptions of every other character page. ... I know it's a big thing to do, but I think the project needs to start the process of going through all of the character pages and checking to validate citations. I'm sorry, it's a big task, but it needs to be done. Withthe whole of the project working on it, it shouldn't be too hard.

Likewise, I think that from here on before a page is given silver status, all citations must be validated by someone other than the person that wrote the up. Just a suggestion. 06:13, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

We should go over all the citations within the articles if there are false references. And it shouldn't be so much of a bother to look at the citations during a nomination. Good point to bring up, Shelly. However, to make sure all citations in the descriptions (and maybe even in the family section) are correctly cited, we need all of the project to help. And a note for citations, it's much easier to use the abbreviated version of the citations, thus why we have the template. 06:22, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help with this. You're right; it is a big task, but the whole point of this site is to have factual, certifiable information about Warriors. 20:48, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'll help out as well, since a.) I have all the books, and b.) I have nothing better to do. This is something that should have been brought up a while ago, but it's never gotten this bad before, to where multiple articles have had false references put in them....how we didn't notice, I'll never know. I think each cite regarding description should be carefully looked at from here on out. 20:52, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'll help out as much as I can as well. I own Beyond the Code, Into the Wild and The Forgotten Warrior, but I also go on amazon.com and books.google.com. 20:54, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I would be glad to help with this. I have a lot of the books, so it would be no problem. I can see why you would be worried.

I'm all in this too, I own all the books but one, so I'm in. 8D <span style="">23:58 Sun Feb 26

If we decide to do this (since I see no reason not to) where would we even start? And just to clearify, are we just checking descriptions or are we checking all cites on character pages? 00:00, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I advise hitting the random page button and just checking the cites on any character pages you come across. 00:06, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

That would make sense to me. Obviously don't check cites for the books you don't have. :3 00:08, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

For the record, if you can go back in the page history and find an edit that attributes a citation to a user, do so. Parties responsible for these damaging edits need to be punished. We now have proof at the Erins use our website. We cannot tolerate misinformation, falsification, and rumor mongering. 22:31, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Great idea Shelly, you have my support. I have all the books, and'd be more than happy to help out. <span style="">09:54, 28, 02, 2012

Suggestion
I figured making a new section rather than just commenting would get this a bit more attention.....

Anyways, due to the false cite problem that was recently discovered, I've been trying to think of a way to show that the page's cites have been verified. I was thinking maybe we could put a template of some sort at the top of the pages saying "This page's references are of questionable authenticity" and that only reliable members (maybe such as members of the project?) could remove it. That way we know that the pages are checked. Or maybe we could make a new template that has the cite in it, but also shows that it's questionable whether it's a real cite or not. I don't know, I just think we should have something so we have a way of knowing when the references have been checked (or haven't) on some pages. Those are just some of the ideas I came up with. Feel free to shoot them down. 22:15, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

I acctually like this, becuase it gives an option for people to do even if they don't own the book and question the accuracy and veracity of an article. 22:39, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Wow. You know it's a good idea if Kitsu supports it. xDDDD

I like it too. It would be a nice addition to the page, and we'd be able to narrow down those references that are false, most of them added in by Wikia Contributors. It's actually quite annoying, because most of the time, they look like good edits, when in fact they're not. Excellent idea, Paleh. 05:56, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

This sounds good, all though it would be a bit confusing- expecially for newer users, it sounds like it could work. As Kit said, it gives users the option to put the reference up, even if they're not 100% sure it's factual. Good find Paleh. <span style="">09:50, 28, 02, 2012

This does sound like a good idea to me. I agree completely. 21:24 February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Wonderful idea, Paleh, I agree with this. 02:40, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

I like it. It would work well, looking at the all the links in the articles, and it would provide something for us who are looking for something to do on that spare weekend. I'd say also having a category for it, to point out all articles that would need work. I'll fiddle around with a box later, if more people agree, when I'm less tired and it's not 10:30. xD 03:27, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Although, we could make a page, with all the articles that haven't been looked over. <span style="">00:34 Thu Mar 1

Woah Kit actually supported one of my ideas. o.o Thanks guys. And Sweet, that'd work to a certain extent, but what stops more false cites being added? If we made a page it'd have to be constantly updated everytime a cite is added, unless the person who sees it first has the book to check. 15:31, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

If we could get a list of people who are participating in the "cite" thing, maybe we could assign people to articles, and have them check the cites maybe, every 2 weeks? There are a lot of character articles, but if a lot of people participate, I think it'd work. <span style="">13:20 Sat Mar 3

Gorsetail (NP) ~ Silver Nomination
Hey guys I am gonna nominate Gorsetail. Comments?

Expand history a tad and try to find some quotes that define his personality. 12:04 February 29, 2012 (UTC)

To add on what Chez said, I would suggest adding expanding the history on how he escaped when the Clan cats saved the trapped cats, and that would be added as the last paragraph of the history. Also, the overall history could use a tad more detail. 00:47, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

M'kay just give me a week. A week is fine right?

A week is fine, but a nomination usually should only be up for 3 weeks total. (Just a heads up) <span style="">00:19 Thu Mar 1

xD Okay make that 2 weeks!

Umm...The Z Guy was banned, what would happen now? =S 22:50, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think the nomination is declined... 22:51, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

If it's okay, I'd be happy to take this on. 00:22, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thornclaw ~ Silver Nomination
I rewrote and expanded many sections of his history, and add a quote. Comments? 02:23, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Could you change the main quote? And are there any other quotes at all? 02:00, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

I changed the main quote, and put the former main quote as a normal quote. For the current main quote, it may not be Thornclaw speaking, but it shows that he has a patient personality, if that's fine. 17:42, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

(I feel really bad saying this) But could you detail/expand all of the sections of the history anymore? <span style="">13:02 Sat Mar 3

I already expanded some sections before I nominated the article, but I'll get to expanding the other sections (mostly the ones in PoT and TNP) once I re-read the books I have. 04:15, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Scorchfur ~ Silver Nomination
I'll get some quotes this week. (Sorry, I'm really busy with stuff, and my internet is slow) I'll expand BotC this week too, along with some other sections. Well, comments? <span style="">23:32 Sun Mar 4

Anything that can be added as supporting quotes? 23:50, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Could you detail Eclipse and Fading Echoes a bit? 23:52, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Er, Chez, I just explained I would get quotes... And Skye, I'll do that tomorrow, or some time this week. *Life's being hectic* <span style="">00:17 Mon Mar 5

Join
I was wondering if I could possibly join PC?

I'd love to contribute to this Wiki more than I have been. :3

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Welcome, please read the guidelines and refer to the FAQ if you have any questions. 03:41, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Bumblestripe - Silver Nomination
I've been stalking this page for a few weeks. No, I'm not ashamed in the slightest. xD I rewrote the sections that needed it the most--Night Whispers, Sign of the Moon, and The Forgotten Warrior, but I will get to the others soon. I'm working on the quotes (I'll do them tomorrow when I have more energy), and I changed the main one. Well, then. Comments? 03:23, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Just letting you guys know, I got the quotes in. 01:12, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Rainstorm ~ Silver Nomination
He mostly just needed a quote. I added a Main Quote, but I'll get to adding another quote. I also gave him bronze status. Comments? 04:13, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Leaving...
I hate to say this, but I'm leaving PC, or at least taking a break. I just don't feel I've contributed enough. I'll rejoin in maybe a month or so time, and see how I go, but for now, I'm sad to say I'm leaving. I'll still contribute to votes and stuff, but otherwise, sorry. <span style="">06:15, 07, 03, 2012

Oh, DJ...I'm really sorry to hear that you're going. You have contributed, don't try to tell me otherwise. I hope you decide to come back soon! Either way, thanks for all the work you've done. :) 00:07, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Holly for that. I do hope to come back soon. <span style="">03:17, 09, 03, 2012

Vicky's Facebook
Hi all. I think this has been addressed before, but I cannot remember a solution. When I click the link on a reference that says "Revealed on Vicky's Facebook Page", it takes me to her page, which means I have to navigate around to find the fact in question (or maybe search;I'm not sure as I don't use Facebook). I would suggest someone taking a screenshot and using that in the reference link. Perhaps something like this:

Revealed on Vicky's Facebook pageScreenshot

Kind regards, 10:33, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

That's a good idea. I know when I link to Vicky's facebook, I actually link to a Warriors Wish thread, most of the time...and all of that info comes straight from Vicky's facebook. A screenshot would be a good idea, since it's something solid that never actually goes away, unless someone photoshops it - although why anyone would do that is beyond me. 18:59, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think we should do this, for reasons already stated above. ^^ 00:09, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

I've already started that. Look at the ref for the cats on the cover of Forest of Secrets. Simple, quick and not photoshoped. 18:08, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Cloudy, perhaps you should provide a link to Vicky's Facebook as well, and add the screenshot as superscript? 20:17, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Well, unless it's been permalinked (as in a link on someone else's wall) I'm not sure how to do it without linking to the normal facebook, and having users search for it. xD That's the best I can do for now. 20:34, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Well, like this: Revealed on Vicky's FacebookScreenshot

05:52, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Hiatus
I'm sorry guys, but I need to take another hiatus. There is way too much going on, and I'm sick with the flu, which is why I haven't been editing. When my schedule becomes a bit more free, I'll return. But there's no time right now. :c it doesn't help that I have a 101.2 F fever. 15:13, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that, Maple. Feel better soon~ 18:08, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about all that, Maple. I hope you get well soon! 22:53, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Join?
Hey Atelda, I was looking to possibly join PC. I own literally every Warriors book, disincluding the manga (but I do have Skyclan and the Stranger.) I would help PC alot by having access to every book, with about 10 steps over to my bookcase.

Runningpelt 01:35, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Of course, please read the guidelines and if you have any questions you can refer to the FAQ. Welcome. 01:42, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Snowflake, Icicle, Cloudy and Sniff
As I was reading Shattered Peace over again, something dawned on me. Willy and Minty's kits, and their genders. Now, I looked over the entire trilogy, and could not find a cite for their genders, and very vaguely their descriptions. I mean, quite honestly, I can't tell their descriptions from looking at where the references are. It's supposed to be page 24, but if you look at the picture, you really can't tell a.) their genders, obviously and b.) their descriptions.

Quite honestly, the most we know is the fact they're kits of Willy and Minty. We don't accurately know their descriptions and genders. So, what should be done with their pages and chararts? Should it be removed? I've never actually seen this done to so many articles at once. 09:34, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Links
This might have been brought up before, or it might just be my memory playing tricks, as it usually does in PC matters. Are we supposed to use links like this:, or like this:  ?

Since both output the very same result, and both link to Warrior, with "W" capital, it doesn't seem to matter, so, naturally (^_^) I prefer the second one, as it reduces the amount of typing required, though not by much. Thoughts?

19:16, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I prefer the first. It's hard to explain, but it just feels better knowing it links to Warrior rather than warrior. I know it's not really a good reason, but... why not? 19:32, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

It really doesn't matter. Either way brings you to the same page, though occasionally a redirect page is needed. It's personal preference. However, what I don't want the need to edit every article looking for links that are potentially "wrong" after this discussion unless everyone thinks there is a need for that. 23:26, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

I know, and I don't go through articles looking for that. If I just happen to see it, then I'll change it. I've seen lots of others doing it. 02:04, March 10, 2012 (UTC)