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Cats of the Park Blanks ~ For Approval
They're so icky omgggg please rename them for me if I named them wrong? I'm no good at lineart

I'll fill them in and fix the longhair's leg in the next upload. ;-;

I suggest looking at the other blanks, you might pick up some good points. Maybe try drawing lines that helps show the muzzle, sorta like the cave-guard or leader. Just keep trying until it seems right. 06:13, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Round the tips of the ears and maybe make the eyes a little bit smaller. 07:18 Fri Aug 21

IDK but the (our) left leg on the short haired blank looks a bit too thin on it's staring point? (My vocabulary omg ;;) I think you get what I mean? 08:44, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

The muzzle looks a bit small. Try enlarging it? 09:06, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups I tried... The eyes looked like aliens >.> still very icky ._.

Maybe make the edge of the eyes a /little/ sharper? 11:26, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make the lines thinner? 13:19, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you enlarge the muzzle? 13:25, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

The lines don't need to be thinner, Burnt. They match the thickness on some of the blanks we have, and it's honestly fine.

Largen the eyes?  ~ Silver Cloud ~  16:25, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know, I think the lines should be thinner. Anyways can you space out the eyes a little? They look too close together. But you did an awesome job! 18:07, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

There's a couple of white pixels on the long-haired's left ear. Songheart (talk) 18:15, August 21, 2015 (UTC)Songheart

The eyes should have thicker lineart, and the eyes should be further apart and follow the curve of the face more. The chin should be more noticable as well. Nubface (talk) 18:33, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

The face is bent downwards at an angle. Right now, the eyes are facing forward with the same perception. If the muzzle where to be there, the eye on our left would have to be angled a bit differently, to make way for the shape of the muzzle. if that didn't make sense i'll try to explain it better 20:15 Fri Aug 21

Will this get declined if I'm gone for a week...? Because I'm going to my friend's house for a couple days.

No. A week without uploads on blanks is not fair. Blanks are a much different process than a normal image- I don't remember the timeframe we decided on, but if you don't upload for a week, you won't lose your blanks. I think we ended up picking two weeks...or something like that. Regardless, working on blanks is a very long process and there's no need to hold you to the same requirements as a normal image. It just wouldn't be fair, flat out.

Forgot to mention earlier, but the tail should be moved down a bit, especially on the shorthair. The tails rests on the ground and tends to curl around their front paws. Nubface (talk) 20:46, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't a little bit of the hindpaw be visible somewhat through the tail? 13:40, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Do you think this lineart is a little... Too big? Not gonna be rude. --ShellaxySpaniel (talk) 05:10, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

The size is fine tbh. There are other blanks the same size/bigger. Also, if you were talking about the lineart itself, the thickness of the lines is fine as there are other blanks with the same thickness of lines. 21:01, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

I think the lineart could be just a touch smaller and the lineart just a touch thinner, but that's just me. Also, the angle of the face looks a little off - it looks like, from the position of the cat, the head is titled a bit downward, but the face seems tilted too much upward. Also, the tail is a little too high up on the shorthair, it should be even with the front paws, at least at the base, since that's where it would connect to the back. May I offer a redline to help with anatomy and such? If not, that's cool, just offering. ^^ Jayie  Unwritten words~ 21:51, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Here's a friendly nudge to not forget to upload!

I honestly think the blanks should be scaled down slightly to match the sizes of our other blanks, because as it stands right now, they are the largest. The anatomy seems to be that of a kitten? I think that the rounded paws and round face shape give this appearance, if you go with slightly more defined shapes, it should help give more of an adult cat appearance. The long furred's fur seems to be a bit spiky, do you think you could lay it flatter to the body and have it follow the direction of the body as best as you can? And it might just be me, but the perspective at which the front of the cat is versus where the butt sits seems kind of off to me and looks kind of painful for the cat's spine. Do you think you could scooch the cat's hindquaters closer to the body? I'm not an anatomy expert, and some of my advice could be wrong, and in that instance, I may be disproven and I'm fine with that, but that's personally how I would draw the blanks if I were doing them myself. I hope I helped at all. 04:04, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups Now here's a thing, I was told to enlarge them (my original ones were way smaller) and the entire cat went crooked because I tried to redraw it. Pixelizing/scaling is a little too hard for me, or I could've been doing it wrong, and in that case can someone tell me how to do it? @Ivy, I tried my best for the fur... I kinda screwed it up. When I first drew the blank I copied exactly from an actual cat photo, so I'd like to get a second opinion on the hind legs. I lowered the short-haired tail, and I moved the eyes of both blanks down and a little more separated from each other. I hope I covered everyone I could, but if I missed something please tell me!

Could you still sharpen the eyes a little? 09:37, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Did you make the fur a little less spikey? --&#123;&#123;SUBST:Nosubst&#124;User:Russettail13/Sig&#125;&#125;. (talk) 13:27, August 29, 2015 (UTC)Russet

The fur seems fine to me - its long-furred anyways, if you're talking about the long haired blank. I hate to be pushy again, but could you maybe thin out the lines again? They just seem really thick, and I know I'm being picky for a blank with only 2 characters but... yeah. 15:09, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Can you add whiskers? Also, try making the muzzle a little rounder. Look at the other charart images for help. I think adding little lines in between the eyes and nose helps too. 22:23, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

I think that their eyes and nose need to be moved so it looks like they're looking down. Like these: http://i.imgur.com/Z8NJeuj.png http://i.imgur.com/EkxBgJv.png The muzzle is pointing downwards (well it looks that way to me) so the eyes should point downwards too. — ☆ ＦＩＲＲＥＬ  ★    ❝ ❤ ❞  16:12, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

You didn't largen the eyes.

 ~ Silver Cloud ~  01:37, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

She didn't upload yet. Give her a bit. 01:40, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

I'm so sorry, but I think I'd have to withdraw these... I don't have time of them because of school, and my laptop is taken by my parents. I might have time to work on regular projects with the school computers, but blanks are a lot harder. Anyone can take these over if they want, I'll even allow them to use them directly (although I'm not even a fan of them myself). I can come back to them later, but it's probably going to be ages.

I'll take over, unless someone else wants to. 12:52, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

You currently have a blank as a voting choice for the Early Settlers, Princess. Could we leave this for someone who does not have one there and hasn't had a chance to make a blank? Storm, Winter, Burnt, Fox? Or anyone else that does not have a blank on the Early Settler vote? (we don't know who will win and tbh having two at once would not be right) Would you guys like to give it a try?

Yeah, that makes sense. Someone else should do it. 13:09, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can I try? :D 13:21, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Gladly, if you keep the stance that Bramblesnow provided. That's what we voted on, so that's what'll stay.

Can I do two things at once? I have willow tail up right now...or does this not count as a reservation? 13:35, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

You can keep both at once- doing blanks are not the same thing as doing images. 13:37, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Did I do it right? 14:05, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Beautiful <3 Maybe make the ears bigger? 14:09, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly, cats ears are not that big, so I don't think so ... 14:11, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, but the paws are bugging me. maybe make them a bit more, on the ground, instead on the tip parts of the paws? 14:16, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 14:25, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Separate the eyes a bit more. 18:35, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

can you make the tail a little bit fluffier? theyre supposed to be longhaird but theyre honestly barely thicker than the shorthairs. also the haunch looks oddly small, and the eyes maybe should be tilted just a tad so theyre not so totally front facing. the paws should be more on the ground too- the cats are putting their weight on them. HotTeacher69 (talk) 18:39, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Honestly, the tail can be edited if the cat's tail is said to be predominantly more fluffy, like Feathertail. And I'm looking at my cat right now, comparing pictures to a shorthair cat and they're honestly not that much bigger. And the eyes aren't front facing, they're facing down already. 18:51, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Echosnout (MC) ~ For Approval
omg yas. 00:04, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

As a RiverClan cat, she needs long fur. Also, blur and lighten the shading a bit. Over all, very nice. 00:21, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

The shading is fine imo. Shading doesn't have to be super light/super blurred if the artist doesn't want it to be like that. 00:34 Tue Sep 1

reups changed to long haired blank (Ill get the waste off the tail) 03:27, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Bluestar. The shading could definitely be blurred a tad. 04:06, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

To be honest, I can't even see the shading. Or it just might be my screen. 04:12, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the head and shoulder region. Great job, Bramble! She's very pretty lol

A lil bit of waste on the tail tip~ 17:22, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

1st. I would say i would of gotten rid of the waste when i uploaded, and second, i think it may be your screen you cant see the shading.. 20:28, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

re-up I didnt see spottehs comment, ill get to that. 20:50, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

+ shading wont seem to blur, suggestions? 20:51, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the back paws a little? 01:30, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Define the earpink a bit? 21:04, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

withdrawing Wiki seems to be blocking me from the real world, so ill be gone for a month or two away from wiki.... 21:46, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

taking over and therefore re-up 13:24, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the white a bit more? IDK, but maybe the herb color should be smoother? Nice job by the way. 21:07, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I'm struggling to see the shading on the black. Maybe lighten the black a tiiinny bit (just a tiny) and define the shading? This is really beautiful! 00:20, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

re-up 01:56, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs- I don't think the entire leg should be pretty much all in shadow. shadows are taking over ooooooh spoopy

re-up 13:25, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

define shading on the herbs? 14:19, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Squirrelwhisker (W) ~ CBA
Candleflame tabby ftw. I haven't read the book yet, as it's not released where I am, so I might have left out something. 00:08, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

define the shading 00:09, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:23, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

make her darker, please. Nubface (talk) 00:33, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:43, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Is it just me or does she look kind of reddish? 01:39, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I colorpicked from Spikefur. 04:09, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Would you mind defining the light on the legs and tail? She's lovely. 17:21, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks! 17:52, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

do you think her whiskers need to be longer and paler? she's called squirrelwhisker after all, and we did the same thing for featherwhisker. Nubface (talk) 19:58, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Paler, no, as we didn't give Hawkheart graying whiskers when he was described with them. As for leangthening them, I'm not sure, as we don't know for sure that she was named after them. 21:18, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

did it say featherwhisker was named asfter his? if it did ill drop it, my mind is just fried rn. Nubface (talk) 22:44, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I actually think since her name is Squirrelwhisker, it's a good idea to tweak her whiskers. It's significant enough to actually warrant a special mention- graying whiskers is a normal part of a cat's life, but I've never heard of a cat with pale whiskers like that.

Reuploaded. 02:26, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

maybe make them a bit greyer/browner,t they look a little odd being so bright. Nubface (talk) 21:03, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:42, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

curve the whiskers they look spikey Belllastar (talk) 00:47, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:13, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

CBA?

A little short mabey they shouldent reach his chest Belllastar (talk) 21:48, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

The whiskers are fine. Storm  &#9835;  21:50, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

The CBA will continue- I've seen cats have some pretty dang long whiskers. o.O

Sorry, but could you smudge the/add more whiskers? It looks strangely bright and standing out when it's completely hard edged and not /really/ a part of the linear art anymore. 09:23, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I disagree, the whiskers look fine imo. They look like Featherwhisker's and Sagewhisker's, with the only difference being color because black whiskers that thin wouldn't be visibile. If someone else disagrees tho, change it, I guess. 13:21, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

The point is though, they aren't technically part of the linear art anymore since the colors switched and they look strange to be so hard edged and standing out. The colors are fine, though. 13:35, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

But it's not apart of her fur color so it still is lineart. It doesn't need to be smudged. If it was just a gray muzzle or something yeah, I'd agree, but they're whiskers and smudging them when they're that thin would make them disappear. Even blurring them would do that, because those at most are two pixels? It would look worse smudging it. It's fine. 13:50, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Aleks is right, imho. Just because it's not black, doesn't make it not part of the lineart. Featherwhisker's are only black because I don't think we got a color for his. They don't need to be smudged, tweaked, ect.

Re-CBA?

Harepounce (W) ~ For Approval
When I first made it I rushed so it looks like poo. I'm sorry. ;-; ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 00:31, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the haunch and neck :) 01:24 Tue Sep 1

Lighten the shading all together. 04:14, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Redone-ish by the former Skiddleybopblitz! Ech. I forgot to lighten. 22:13:55 1 Sep 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs? 00:48, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to sound stupid, but all of them or just X amount of them? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 01:31, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Would you mind defining it on all the legs? 20:25, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

And perhaps lighten the front legs? The legs themselves are a significantly darker brown than the other. I understand it's shading, but when you incorporate the comments above, it should look better. 21:04 Wed Sep 2

Reuploaded Posting this before bed so I may have 1,000% more errors than usual. If I forgot my signature then aw crap. -- ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 03:13, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the face and legs. 11:16, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded It's getting kinda difficult for me to lighten the shading without it looking too bad, at least in my eyes. Anyway, is this gonna get declined because I was in Fort Wayne yesterday and this morning/afternoon? ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:48, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Daisytoe (Q) - CBA
Hi, before you yell at me about "uneralistic pelt pattern", on my way from Disney's Art of Animation resort on the Disney Cruise Line bus thingy, there are little TV's in which they show you little clips and stuff. So one of those clips had a group of 8 cats - half of them black and white, half gray and white with the same exact pattern as this, taking pictures with mickey mouse. The reason for this is because their pelt was mickey mouse patterened, and it wasn't shaved like that, they were born like that. So that's what I'm basing it off of. If it happens to 8 cats, maybe it can happen to Daisytoe. 01:24, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you at least try to have a little bit more...variation for the patterns? Maybe have them facing upside down? Some facing sideways? Some up? Not just the same pattern literally repeated going up the cat, that's not possible. 01:30, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs. 01:33, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere and add depth. Storm &#9835;  01:44, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Winterflurry, I apologize for that, I don't remember the thing exactly, but yeah, I'll get on it. Please forgive me if I don't upload it tomorrow though. 02:42, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Could you get the pattern to flow with the body a bit more? They seem to be directly pasted on top of her. 04:08, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Can you smudge the mice so they look a tiiny more realistic? Keep in mind this is a website for new readers to see... I'm not trying to be mean but if I see a pattern like this back when this wiki was just a resource site I would've freaked out.

they dont need to be smudged. just less uniform looking. Nubface (talk) 08:08, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the pattern (splotches) and add shading/depth to the torso. I LURV the pattern lmao ~Spottehwobble

The problem with the pattern is that it looks like the Mickey heads are all lying on a flat sheet of paper, not on a cat with many rounded surfaces. Even if you don't vary the position, size, and rotation of the patches, which you should, at least try to make them fit hte countours of the cat's body. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:49, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: How's this? I think I may have botched it up. 21:56, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe blur/smudge the markings a little more BCPrincess73 (talk) 22:29, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the head shading, if there is any. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 23:02, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Per what PCPrincess said, I believe if you smudged the markings with the brush on 1.00, it would give the illusion of 'fur' and make the pattern flow a lot more. Not required, just a suggestion. Darken the shading on her back left leg, and blur the shading on her right haunch. 23:45 Tue Sep 1

Re-uploaded: I blurred the stripes, fixed the shading and added head shading. (I forgot that oops) 00:27, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading a little bit. 01:35, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 01:39, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

i think with this source the face shading should be on the other side, also defined, and define the shading on all her legs. Nubface (talk) 19:27, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 20:45, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, so someone's gonna tell me to add some shading on the face, but can you guys tell me where? With my light source, I don't really know where the right place is to add it, so if you guys could help me with that I'd love you forever.

On <== this side of the face, but I think you got that covered. Storm &#9835;  00:56, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Since that wasn't really a comment for her to fix.. CBA?

Ok I'm sure you won't be happy about this comment, but I'm sorry, I'm posting anyways. Assuming you really did see cats with markings like this, which I cant find any evidence of whatsever elsewhere, it is still a mutatiom regardless. You know what another mutation in cats is? Having four ears. And another one? Having flaps of skin that bear a striking resemblence to wings. Another? Werewolf look-a-like cats. And there are loads of pictures and records of all these mutations. Should they be allowed too? And sure, you can go using the excuse that warriors isn't realistic, and throw examples like Blackstar and Spottedpaw around, but the fact of the matter is they were described in canon with those descriptions. As far as I'm aware, Daisytoe was never described as being unusual in any way. If she was, that'd be a different matter, but she wasn't. I'm not saying you have to go use a 100% realistic pattern, though it would be preferable, I'm pretty sure pca doesn't doesn't have incredibly strict standards on that. But it should look at least plausible. Right now the pattern honestly looks like it was made as a joke. And chances are, that's what any non-pca viewers that see it will believe. That it's a joke image. It looks like someone just popped the image in photoshop and went crazy with the basic round brush. It looks extremely unrealistic. If you are completely set on having mickey mouse markings, make most of the pattern realistic, with like one or two odd markings. That happens plenty of the time with shapes like hearts, without mutations, just coincidence how the white markings formed in those spots. But having them all over the body, if it even actually happened, would be a mutation, no question. And honestly, it sounds like a less plausible mutation than four-eared cats. Please please at least make an attempt to make it look more realistic. And of you do leave any mickey mouse markings at all, please make them follow the body more. They wouldn't be perfect circles, the body curves, and fur causes streaks.

...I'm honestly having to agree with above said comment here. Plus it makes it look even more unrealistic than it could possibly be that you have the fur markings overlapping onto other limbs from the ...say the one on the stomach, it's overlapping onto the leg, that's not how this works 13:44, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I've been accused of lying about this, but no. I am not changing this pattern because I am extremly proud of it and if you don't believe me, that's fine. I have seen this pattern with my very own eyes, and if you want to go ahead and take the same journey I did then do it. I'm rather offended you called this a joke, and this is my pattern that I saw with my own eyes. My "joke" pattern happened. I'm willing to change how they overlap on the other limbs, but not the pattern itself. 16:26, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I myself have never seen a cat like this, but telling Icy that her image is a joke is extremely hurtful. PCA is about expressing yourself through the art you make, and Icy has done this above. Who cares if no one thinks it's realistic? It's an image, Icy made it, and that's it. Images don't have to be realistic, to the T of a real life cat. Whereas Icy could appeal to your wishes and smudge the markings in line with the fur, or maybe make the markings denser to draw less attention to the individual mickey mouses and more to the pattern itself, accusing her of making this up for a joke is somewhat rude. Icy loves her pattern, and she loves this image, so why tell her to change something that made her happy? i don't think you're able to decline this for "unrealism". 18:47 Sat Sep 5

if we can have pokeball collars the i dont see a problem with this? theres nothing wrong with it and its still depicting a grey and white cat. fine, maybe they could be more rounded with the body and such, but theres nothing wrong with having some fun little mickey mouses? realism doesnt mean shit. HotTeacher69 (talk) 18:50, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

The pattern is fine. As Splook said, telling someone that their image is a joke is hurtful and it’s not fair. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it has to be changed. If Icy saw this, then she saw it. Realism isn’t everything and you can’t force someone to change their image just because you don’t believe it. She can smudge it, yes, but she shouldn’t change her entire pattern because it’s “not realistic”. It shows a gray and white cat. What’s wrong with that? 22:13, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Why not just mix in other markings with it and smudge the ones she has? Sure, we have loads of unrealistic pelt designs, but they're also smudged and blurred and all of that. I don't think you'd need to redo the pattern, but add something other than the mouse head.

Mickey Mouse heads have happened on cats before in mutations, so the pattern would seem more plausible if there were markings other than perfectly rounded dots. 00:31, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe like Rainlegs said above, only have one or two of those markings along the body and then add in other more plausible markings than just the mickey mouse heads. 00:39, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Right, here's what I'm going to do: I'm not going to change the pattern entirely. I'll smudge it and add a few more ...things to it. Expect an upload tomorrow. 01:14, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I lied. I uploaded it now. Does this suit your precious standards? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 01:54, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Nice job on the new markings. Could you define the shading on the front paws? 02:04, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: 02:06, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

I love her pattern tbhhh, it's so cute! In between the two Mickey Mouse spots, there's like, a really thin strip of gray. It's kinda near her shoulder, in between the Mickey Mouse spots. Is that part of her pattern or? It's super thin and just one little strip so I wasn't sure. If it's meant to be there, I'm dumb. 03:32, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Nah, it wasn't part of her pattern. Just missed it. 04:27, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

CBA? 02:07, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Rainfur (TC) (W) ~ For Approval
01:54, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

omg love this, but mabey lighten the shading on the tail Belllastar (talk) 02:39, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 02:57, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, especially on the neck and haunch? 03:23, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

reups Shading was being stupid so I redid it. 22:33, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

lighten shading Belllastar (talk) 00:43, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I think the shading is fine imo. Maybe blur the shading a bit more overall? 00:51, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

reups I smudge my shading, not blur it, so I did that instead. That's the most I can do without it looking strange, though 01:19, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Belllastar, you should lighten the shading a tad. Also, I see a shadow on the front leg closest to us that seems out of place to me. 01:28, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I think the shading darkness is ok, maybe smudge it on the main body just a tad more? 01:37, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reups I went ahead and lightened it some. But again, I can't smudge it more without it looking strange, sorry V_V I tried, but it's being stubborn. I'll try some more later, maybe. 07:39, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Can you lighten the shading just a tiiinny bit more? 03:17, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I'm getting a sense that she is actually speckled... She looks like she's just got random white streaks and a tabby design tbh. Also, are you still working? 05:45, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the line of shading on the ear closest to us. 10:16, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Rabbitleap (TC) (K) ~ For Approval
This is acualy the first submission, '''this is my baby! Belllastar (talk) 02:49, September 1, 2015 (UTC)'''

Maybe make the earpink a little pinker? BCPrincess73 (talk) 03:05, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I changed the title of this, for it's supposed to be "under evaluation" as you are still a kit. Can you define the shading on < side of her body? 03:13, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Add/define neck shading 09:11, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define the leg shading. 12:02, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Define and/or lighten the eye colour. She looks like she has black eyes. And Belllastar? You did awesome, alot better than me. ~Spottehwobble

Add shading down the right (our right) edge of both front legs, and the tail shading should be on the other side of the tail, if the light is coming from the left. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:51, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups Belllastar (talk) 00:04, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front legs? 00:52, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail, and define the light on the little back paw. There should be at least a bit of light there. Also define the shading under the chin on the neck. 00:53, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I still don't see any shading on the right side of the right front leg. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:16, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

and maybe darken the underbelly (area between the two front legs) a tad. 21:02 Wed Sep 2

You'll need to ask someone to rename this to File:Rabbitleap (TC).kit.png. 09:27 Thu Sep 3

I renamed this for you. From now on, you'll need to upload over the filename Berry gave you.

You know what you are doing, i'll promote you into an apprentice. 02:39, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, though? 05:41, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

YES I just need CBA Belllastar (talk) 12:23, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

If you reuploaded, you'll need to comment and say you did so. I think there should be neck shading with this source... I don't seem to see any?

Lighten the shading too, please 14:18, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Chiveclaw (MC) ~ CBA
this is literally the first original mc ive ever done. ive been on this wiki for 3 years. anyways im not entiely happy with this so i'll probably end up playing around with it a lot between now and the next couple of days,, 03:00 Tue Sep 1

Did you forget to color in the leaves? 03:18, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Uh, the leaves /are/ coloured in. But would you mind defining the light on the tail? 04:07, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

define the shading on the front legs and herbs. Nubface (talk) 20:00, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

This is beautiful. :) Define the shading on the neck and the side of the face? Jayie  Unwritten words~ 20:52, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Amazing! The earpink looks kinda like ear fur, could you fix that? 21:13, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

The ear pink looks fine to me, I think it's just the fur smudged into the ear that makes it look like it. Maybe just make it a touch pinker? Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:14, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Is it possible you could define the shading on the farthest hindleg and the front left leg? What Do You Mean?

I can see those just fine. Storm &#9835;  00:57, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded as requested by Berry.

CBA? 04:49, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Can you blur/smudge the light source on the cheek Belllastar (talk) 12:16, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's fine 13:41, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Continue CBA? 05:41, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Flashnose (w) - for approval
ayyy 04:23, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Could you lighten the overall shading a few ticks? 05:30, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

The green/blue tint is sort of throwing off the colour...perhaps try a darker, completely blue colour on multiply or a red tiny. This is really, really nice though... wb legGy 09:23 Tue Sep 1

Define the ear-pink. 21:55, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I played with some redder tones for the shading instead of having the gray-blue color. thx berRy 01:01, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I'm having trouble making out the earpink. Could you define it? 21:16, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

With how the ear is shaped and where my light is coming from, the whole inner ear is in shadow, and I also have tufts of fur over the pink, so I'm a little hesitant to mess with it more to bring out that color. 23:17, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I think it should still be defined. 03:54, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Where did this idea that earpink has to be super defined even come from? I mean it goes back to before I even joined wwiki, but it makes no sense really. On the vast majority of cats, the ear isn't even an especially different color, either due to the fur color being similar, or the amount of fur covering the ear. The earpink on this is significantly more visible than in most photos of real cats, especially ginger ones, so defining it would not be realistic at all.

Earpink should still be visible. And in this case I think it should be defined so I'm asking. However, if you think its fine even with others saying not so then okay. 22:20, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

i do agree that it could be defined a tad. 23:00 Thu Sep 3

tbh, I agree w/ Paleclaw. Earpink isn't always super visible on cats and it's not even /that/ important regarding to the image quality. the main things that should be focused on are the patterns, shading etc. As long as you can tell there's ear pink it's fine :/ 12:54, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I've been using this kind of as my guide for coloration. Without shading, the earpink and ear area looks the same, but with my angle of light and the shape of the ear, all of my earpink/ear fur is in shadow, so it would be inconsistent if I lightened it further. 17:57, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

But I can't tell there's earpink and thats the problem. 20:02, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

im agreeing with icy. define it, it wont kill you to. HotTeacher69 (talk) 07:54, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I can see the earpink very easily on this, at least on my computer. It's not hard to see at all. However I will say that it's nearly invisible on my phone screen, but then so is the shading on nearly every black cat on here. So it may be your guys' screen? But regardless of that, I still stand by what I said about earpink not needing to be extremely defined. I can't barely see the earpink on these either. Why should it have to be more visible than that on this image? (though it actually already is plenty more visible on my screen, just apparently not all yours)

Exactly- You can barely /see/ the ear pink on most cats, and plus I can see the earpink fine on this one. 08:21, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

i dont care about realism? i really dont, stop trying to force it. and im sticking with it being defined, and thats all im saying on this. i REALLY can barely see it. HotTeacher69 (talk) 08:22, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Realism is not mandatory in PCA. So four of us happen to have the same color calibration issue? I think that's highly unlikely. It's not too hard to just tweak it ever so slightly. Just because it's visible on some, does not mean it's visible on all screens. I also think Leggy should tweak it, even if it's not too much. Just enough so the four of us can make it out from the pelt color.

I just suggested that it might be the monitors that were the issue, since that was the only reason I could think of that some people could see it easily and some couldn't see it at all.

I'm not saying realism is mandatory. I'm not even advising it in this topic honestly. Right now I'm indifferent on whether any other images have earpink that's super defined, or earpink that's invisible. I'm indifferent on whether leggy makes the choice to change it or leave it. I'm not asking for things to be realistic. What I am trying to do is point out that you're forcing unrealism by continually asking her to change it when it actually is realistic and she has already stated why she doesn't want to define it. It's not even that the earpink isn't aesthetically pleasing, and that's why you guys think it should be changed. It's not offensive in any way, it's simply not visible to you guys. You're enforcing a standard that has no basis whatsoever. I can't think of a single good reason why the myth that earpink has to be defined even started, nevermind why people are still trying to force it. Why should it be a requirement on any image? Right now not one good reason has been given to define the earpink that isn't simply following the myth that earpink has to be super visible on every single image even if it looks bad or is unrealistic or is offensive on the eyes. That's my problem with the situation.

I fail to understand how four different people, in different parts of the world, with different computers not being able to see the ear pink isn't a valid enough reason? We're not forcing unrealism, and in fact, the same counterargument could be said by saying it's fine- you're promoting realism- if four different people can't see it, tweaking it would not hurt. It's not that I don't find it pleasing. I actually didn't even know the image had ear pink until Leggy brought it to my attention on Skype when she asked me what she should do with the image.

I'm not sure you're quite understand what I'm trying to say here, so I'm gonna try and word it differently. You said realism isn't mandatory right? Well unrealism isn't either as far as I'm aware. Which means it's artist's choice. And the artist made her choice to make it realistic, and gave good reasoning for it.

I'm not saying tweaking it would hurt. I'm not doubting that four people are struggling to see it. I'm asking what reasoning you have for it needing to be super visible? It doesn't matter how many people can't see it if none of them have a reason for it needing to be easily seen. If it's not anything related to realism or unrealism, and it's not to do with aesthetics, and it's not to do with any official guidelines on the topic, what's your reasoning? The only one I can see so far is the need to blindly follow a myth started by a few people, probably years and years ago, without any backing. I'm asking what the reason is that four people think an artist should be denied her artistic choice on something that isn't and has never been addressed in the official rules (at least to my knowledge). If you can give a good reason, sure go ahead, but so far I haven't heard one. Four people can't see it? Alright. But why do they need to? That's a question that hasn't been answered once in this whole discussion.

I'm no enforcing realism by saying it's fine. It being "fine" isn't my point or my reason for arguing this. I'm not saying it'd be wrong if it were defined. I'm saying that unless further reasoning is given, it's artist's choice, and that isn't being respected right now.

DISCLAIMER: This comment was written with the intention of resolving this argument. I am not angry, and I tried to show it in my comment. Please calm down. Paleclaw, we're not trying to force unrealism, just a standard we heard was the way it is. Snowed, Paleclaw's point is that the earpink doesn't need to be visible, not that it is. They're saying earpink should be the artist's choice, not that is has to be realistic. PCA is supposed to be fun, right? Let's keep it fun. 14:33, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if just Paleclaw can see it. Four other people can't. Rainlegs, I'm asking you kindly to define the earpink. 16:28, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

ok. we all know earpink is part of the chararts- it has to be there, and artists choice is a thing, yeah. but when multiple people have an issue with it, something has to be done. i dont even notice the earpink at first glance, and we're not saying it has to be super defined??? just enough that we can actually SEE the damn thing. frankly if youre just not gonna listen to what people are saying then why bother putting up an image at all? realism doesnt have to be followed either- it doesnt count for much. hell, even remove some of the shadow from the ear and see if it does anything for definition. HotTeacher69 (talk) 18:36, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, this is starting an unnecessary argument. From here on out, all comments are to refrain from mentioning the ear pink, attacking users, or even calling their comments not valid enough. If you're going to comment, make sure it has a valid reason for being commented. This is turning into a train wreck of comments causing anxiety and stress for everyone involved. I will start to decline images for those who continue to bring up the issue of ear pink.

however, comments are being ignored. The changes should be made if the majority rules. See prior images. Anyways, define the shading on the paws. 03:53, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:17, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Houndstar (L) ~ For Approval
first leader! And the name stumps me. 07:31, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make the texture like... more thicker? idk if that's the word. rn it looks kinda like a few lines running down his pelt. 09:10, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Err... I don't really understand what you mean. Second opinion? 09:41, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

The texture (as seen on the white) seems like drawn straight lines rather than actual fur-representing lines. Maybe draw more of the "lines" and smudge/blur them? 10:04, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I think the texture kinda fades out on the lighter parts?? But yeah, I do agree with Burnt on this. Also, texture on the leaders isn't always the easiest thing on the planet.

Blur the brown against the white a little more, and add shading to the left haunch. ~Spottehwobble

I can't really tell what your light source is for this. Jayie Unwritten words~ 20:53, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload Is that better or do I need to redo the texture? 08:29, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Are you making your texture kinda "spot-like"?? Or like...small lines? Because that's not texture and just looks like tiny lines. I'm not sure who ever told you that was okay, because it's not...

Blur the earpink some more 12:57, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

tbh the texture is very light, and it would be almost the same image without it. i'm not telling you to remove it, i'm just saying that if you choose to do so, the image would still look fine. Smooth out the shading on the underbelly. 21:00 Wed Sep 2

Tone down the highlights a bit. 23:47, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload I'll tone down the highlights in the next upload. 01:33, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink more? 02:16, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:46, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

CBA? 01:57, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't think the texture follows the flow of the fur, but mainly on the haunch. It appears to be going <-- to -->, when it should probably be going up and down.. it doesn't match the rest of the texture on the image.

I also zoomed in on the image, and that is not texture. The lines are thick and shouldn't be like that. I'm sorry, but they should be thinner lines, and examples are scattered throughout the wiki on the various images. If you're not sure how to make texture how others have done it, then ask. As your texture is now, it's much too thick and doesn't flow with the fur very well at all. I'm sorry if this is rude, but as I've had comments like this told to me before, I figure that this is what the approval page is for- improvement.

Reupload the texture is becoming too stressful for me so I'm dropping it for now. 04:13, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Shouldnt there be shading on the left haunch? 10:14, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Flower Foot (Ki) ~ CBA
my first tortie = a cute mess 17:15, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

define the face and tail shading, and blur/whatever the hind paws shadow. Nubface (talk) 20:49, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 17:40, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

It looks like the white is smudged in all sorts of different directions and it makes it look a little odd. Do you mind smoothing that out? 18:12, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 11:14, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Could you smudge the facial shading? Cute <3 00:34, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, but most of the dark parts on her face are actually black-grey fur, rather than shading. I did try smudging the shading anyway, but it didn't make much difference, so I think it should be left, personally. 00:49, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough. CBA? 22:35, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Nettlebreeze (E) ~ CBA
Hi. 0:35 Wed Sep 2

Define the shading on the closest hindleg.

That's the only hind leg, and I think it looks fine. 12:59, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Is there any head shading? If there is, can you define it? 18:11, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Yes there is. 20:42 Wed Sep 2

Can you lighten the shading all together? 20:49, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Should I lighten it more? <span style="">22:47 Wed Sep 2

Maybe along the back. <span style="">01:25 Thu Sep 3

Re-uploaded. Is this better? <span style="">1:31 Thu Sep 3

Maybe blur/smudge the shading along the back? 02:17, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <span style="">21:55 Sun Sep 6

CBA? 01:16, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Dawnfeather (Star) ~ CBA
My hand x.x this took almost 6 hours working between classes and rehearsals. And I realize that she is described as light, but the stripes are only that dark because they got lost in the shading, hence they are set to multiply on a medium opacity. But I am seriously proud of this :3 01:08, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Could you brighten the white and somehow... make the pupil more visible? idk its kinda lost in the shading and I can't see it very well. I love this <3 06:58, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on her left paw. This is stunning! <span style="">20:59 Wed Sep 2

I think the eyes are fine. I absolutely love this. <span style="">22:48 Wed Sep 2

I agree that the eyes should be made more visible. 23:19, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I am unable to upload right now due to issues with the wifi on campus, but even though I'm pretty sure eyes are the artist's choice, because I had more than one person mention them I expanded the pupil by a couple pixels and smoothed the shading. Brightening the white on the other hand...well I can't really explain what happened with that easily. I did have to modify the shading, so please do not tell me to lighten it. When I tried making it lighter it looked flat. 23:41, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

The pupil is still really hard to see. I think it's being lost in the darkness of the eye color in that area and the darkness with the shading. Maybe play around with both? Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:12, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly when I first saw the image I thought it was supposed to be pupiless. You can see the pupil when you look directly at it, but not as well when you're looking at the image as a whole. but it is your choice. <span style="">00:43 Thu Sep 3

I have no been able to upload the change....my wifi has been down for a couple days. I will try again after class. I did fix the eyes though. 13:54, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

reup Is this any better? And the image before this upload was still the original, that's why it looked the same.. 14:38, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Can you lighten the shading on her butt (I am a child for the lack of better words) and --> side of the image? 00:40, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

reup 17:57, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Idk if this is just me but I still can't see the pupils. I think it's because the pupil is placed where the shading is. But yeah, it's up to you if you want to change it, as eye style is artist's choice. 01:56, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

reup I made the pupil larger and lightened her eye a little bit. This is as much as I am going to be able to change it though >.< 16:55, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

reup again Because I know it will be mentioned, changed the shading color to knock the white as close to pure white as possible. I will also be defining the shading depth as it looks a little flat now. 19:55, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I'm having trouble seeing the shading on her paws. mind defining it? 04:10, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

reup 16:29, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

possibly lighten the shading on the --> side of her face a bit? <span style="">22:43 Sun Sep 6

reup lightened by about 4-6 ticks on each layer 23:17, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Unless changes aren't showing, I still think you could lighten ==> side more 01:16, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

reup >.< At least on my screen this lightened it dramatically. Let me know if it made the shading too flat and I'll mess with the levels a little bit. 02:01, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Much better. ^^ CBA? 02:07, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Cloudberry (TC) (Medicine) ~ For Approval
I tried. Estimate, please, I want to be useful. I made "fur" light and shade. I took a flattened muzzle at Yellowfang. <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 09:52, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you need to reserve this on the reservation table on the main page first. Everything that gets posted here should be reserved first. Until then, I'll need to decline this image. Feel free to repost (after this has been archived and you've properly reserved the image). If you don't know how to do so, please ask, and one of us will be able to help you. =D

How to make it? <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 10:54, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I make it! <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 11:39, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading? Nice <3 01:55, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Yes :) It is pleasant to you? It is possible to add? <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 08:13, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I made shadows shorter. <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 08:17, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the legs a little bit? I'm glad to see you found out how to reserve the image. =)

Can you smooth out the shading a tad? Also, this file needs to be re-named Cloudberry (TC).mc.png 14:25, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

I completely changed a treatment of light and shade and I changed the name. <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 11:43, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading/highlights some. 16:00, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

What do you mean and how to make it? <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 08:13, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

New version! I made (sorry, my english is bad =) ) texture of long fur. <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 16:32, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

blur the shading more please 16:34, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Heronwing (TC) (W) ~ For Approval
Meh.

Define the stripes - I can barely see them 15:41, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading as well 17:59, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

stripes dont have to be super defined, as long as you can tell theyre there its fine. but define the earpink just a tad? Nubface (talk) 18:39, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

I'm actually having trouble making the stripes out, so a little definition wouldn't hurt.

Re-uploaded ~ Defined all stuff. c:

Could you darken the tail shading a tiny bit? This is adorable, btw. ^.^

Re-uploaded ~ :3

Could you possibly lighten/raise the opacity of the earpink just a tad please? If you believe it's fine, then feel free to disregard me. I don't feel like going into a full blown argument over the shade if others disagree. 10:13, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Splinter (Ro) - For Approval
I love black-and-white cats.

I watched this in action. Can you smudge the patch on his butt a little more? Like the one at the edge of his back but not the tail thingy. The butt patch. I am a child. 05:27, September 5, 2015 (UTC) Can you please define nose pink just a tad? It's looking too paleish white to me. --Dewsplash (talk) 05:29, September 5, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash 05:29, September, 5, 2015

Re-uploaded. Butt patch. Heh. Also, Dew, I actually had forgotten about the nose pink, so thanks for pointing that out.

i keep thinking of splinter from tmnt...but define the shading on the white. HotTeacher69 (talk) 07:18, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Ember (Ro) ~ For Approval
HotTeacher69 (talk) 06:19, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Could you define the main body shading a tiny bit, along with the shading on the tail? I'm having a bit of an issue seeing it, and shading on short-haired cats are a pain.

There's a line of waste at his butt 13:02, September 5, 2015 (UTC) There's also a line of waste under his front leg and paws. --Dewsplash (talk) 14:16, September 5, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 14:16, September, 5, 2015

re-uploaded killed the waste, and is the shading better? its hard to shade this colour weh HotTeacher69 (talk) 18:52, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail. 10:09, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded only so much i can do considering most of his tail is stripe HotTeacher69 (talk) 18:28, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Not sure if this spam but there's some shading leaking on the back paw closer to us. --Dewsplash (talk) 18:58, September 7, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash 18:58, September, 7, 2015

're-uploaded not shading, but i killed it HotTeacher69 (talk) 19:08, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Flashnose (Q) ~ For Approval
WHAT HAVE I DONEEEEEEEEE???????????? 10:24, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Pretty! Define the light source on the head? 00:30, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Nice job matching the pattern! This is really pretty. Do you want the file for colors/stripes? The stripe along the spine is broken into three (only two are visible on the warrior) and there's several different colors in the stripes, but it might be easiest for you to see for yourself. 00:36, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Could you lighten the shading a few ticks? I'm having trouble seeing the patterns under the shading. 04:08, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks~ and the file helped me match the warrior better. ^^ 10:17, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Define the belly shading just a tad, please. 10:10, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 11:39, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the tail shading just a bit. <span style="">15:32 Mon Sep 7

Rooktail (W) ~ For Approval
idk 22:02, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading a little? Nice job. 22:13, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Beech (Ro) - For Approval
Pretty happy with this. Thoughts? Jayie Unwritten words~ 03:11, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

If you could, define the tail shading? 07:09, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Could you soften the shading on the shoulder and thigh, please? <span style="">21:57 Sun Sep 6

Red Claw (Ro) - For Approval
aka s'more 05:46, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

I think he should be a tad bit redder- auburn is reddish-brown, so maybe use a color around Pinestar's?

Re-uploaded 07:08, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

I think it should be much, much redder, and more saturated, not so gray. Auburn is a deep, rich red-brown color. Jayie Unwritten words~ 07:18, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 02:33, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

That's still way too gray. This is the kind of auburn color I'm talking about: http://www.herinterest.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Auburn_hair_color_ideas_2014_04.jpg A very deep red-brown. Jayie Unwritten words~ 12:22, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Actually, auburn is simply reddish brown, or in other words, russet. it can be pale, dark or whatever shade. I made it redder. 13:32, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Willow Tail (R) ~ For Approval
Yo 01:13, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Darken the stripes a bit, and did you smudge these ones? They don't appear to be smudged on the kit.

i think theyre smudged minimally on the kit or something similar, but i think these stripes could be a bit darker to match better. HotTeacher69 (talk) 08:26, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 14:07, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. 17:50, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 18:59, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Stagleap (GC) (W) ~ For Approval
am I allowed to post this now (I believe there's no two week penalty or whatever for this right?) Redid it because my computer got taken away by my parents... This is a result of school computer's Photoshop (love the blur tool) and there's no way for me to match the old complicated pattern with the school's mouse and a program I'm not that familiar with. shrug

Nah, you're good. I just wanted you to see the importance of remembering the date. The only time the two week rule comes into play is for new images when they're declined for being up for a month.

Swallow (Ro) - For Approval
13:54, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

yoo this is hot. lighten the shading on the tail + ear closest to us a few ticks. <span style="">18:28 Mon Sep 7

Daisytoe (W) ~ For Approval
Sorry Appledash, I totally butchered your amazing pattern, lol. -- 14:03, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the main body shading and define the shading on the legs. 14:07, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re-ups I'll remove the waste next upload. 14:21, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the highlights/light parts on the chest and haunch. Cute! <span style="">15:29 Mon Sep 7

Re-ups Better? 16:49, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

No, this is awesome! Define the shading - and do you want the file? 17:26, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Mistpelt (E) - For Approval
yay granny cat <span style="">16:37 Mon Sep 7

Spotted Fur (Ro) - For Approval
I dun like this :p 20:18, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Nice job. Maybe make him a bit more golden, as, to me, he looks more light brown. 20:37, September 7, 2015 (UTC)