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Unknown Residence Blank - For Approval
Did I do the title right? Idk. Thanks to everyone who voted for my blank, the other entries were amazing as well! I plan on making the ears a little smaller, shortening the tail slightly, and shortening the leg that shows the paw pads. - JArtz11  Oblivious to EVERYTHING!  16:29, July 4, 2019 (UTC)

Could you shorten the outer lineart by maybe a pixel or two? Seems a little thick compared to the rest. 20:20, July 4, 2019 (UTC)

The floof on the longhair could be made less spiky and more round. 20:23, July 4, 2019 (UTC)

I actually disagree? It's not so much sharper than say the elder, healer, or unknown residence. Unless others disagree with me. 20:27, July 4, 2019 (UTC)

i think the longhair looks fine, i would just ythin the outer lineart like vec said and i think it would be perf! 20:32, July 4, 2019 (UTC)Tybaxel

I think the longhair could be a little... less spiky/more smooth. Just a little bit, though (on the back of the head in particular). 22:41, July 4, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded - JArtz11  Oblivious to EVERYTHING!  17:12, July 6, 2019 (UTC)

not sure but should there be a line/pixels to indicate the shift from the main skull to the inside of the ear? 05:38, July 8, 2019 (UTC)

looking at pictures of other cats, i feel like the nose bridge should be more perpendicular to with respect to the eye 14:55, July 8, 2019 (UTC)

Thin the shorthaired's tail lineart a little more

I think the tail could also curve at the bottom more too? Just at the moment, to me, it looks like its too straight due to the image crop

Reuploaded - JArtz11  Oblivious to EVERYTHING!  16:02, July 12, 2019 (UTC)

I think the neck on the short hair on the far left side should be less curved and more straight? 16:05, July 15, 2019 (UTC)

i think thats to show the shape of the head 11:51, 7/17/2019

Reuploaded Made it a little more straight - JArtz11  Oblivious to EVERYTHING!  15:37, July 19, 2019 (UTC)

I think the ear furthest away from us might be more ---> that way with this angle? I might be wrong though, if you have a reference photo handy though?

Reuploaded - JArtz11  Oblivious to EVERYTHING!  20:44, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

For the longhair's fluffy back, could you make it less... dense for the lack of a better word? I'm inclined to think that the fur wouldn't sit that high in this sort of position, meaning it wouldn't really differ much from the shorthair's fur in that spot? It's normally more around the neck areas, and belly that the fur is noticeably longer.

Around the outer edge (frame, I guess) of the longhaired, could you ensure that it's roughly 2px all the way about? Seems thick still in some spots

I think <<< this space on the shorthair's side should be cropped a tiny bit. -- 18:58, July 27, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oof sorry been super busy lately. Im not sure I have to fix the crop now? If this is approved can i do it then? - JArtz11  Oblivious to EVERYTHING!  19:19, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

These are lovely and I can't see anything to comment on, so CBA? 23:34, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

sorry, but i feel like the blank looks slightly too crowded in general. notably the face (might help if you remove some of the lines on the ears ig?), and how does the blank look with those three lines removed on the cat's back leg? also, i feel like the tail still looks too straight–feel like a cats tail would naturally be more bent in such a position. 04:52, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

also, i feel like the linearart thickness is pretty uneven on the shorthaired blank– it's extremely thick on the cat's back and on the leg in which the paw pads are exposed but thin in other places. 04:54, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded The tail is based of something like this https://www.omlet.co.uk/images/cache/1024/604/Cat-Chartreux-a_plush_coated_chartreux_cat_lying_down.jpg]] with the tail being straight and just the tip being curled. - JArtz11  Oblivious to EVERYTHING!  18:39, August 2, 2019 (UTC)

That, to me, still shows it curving a bit more than what you've currently got here. I'd also maybe suggest shortening the leg with the visible toe beans? Not sure if you'd see that much leg from this angle, especially when you look at the blank without a tail.

I honestly think the tail looks fine. A cats tail is always flat to the ground 23:44, 8/05/2019

CBA? 04:48, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry but my comment about the leg showing the beans being too long, still stands as a part of my comment above.

Reuploaded - JArtz11  Oblivious to EVERYTHING!  20:18, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

One last thing, I promise, but the fur on our left backleg looks very clumpy, and I think it could be smoothed out more to match the other blanks style for that area (if that makes sense?) and with that, the same would be applied to the other leg too

Meadowslip (W) - For Evaluation
it's really bad, i think i might have to redo it. 18:43, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

The base needs to match the other images in the set, along with the ear/nosepink and eyes. Expand the shading more on the haunch, chest, and triangle stomach area, and add more to the tail bend and shoulder area near the back. Define the eye depth. Lastly, smooth out the shading everywhere, I reccommend a 10px smudge tool set at 40% strength, and rub it back and forth on the edges of the shading.

I hope this helps! 18:52, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded.  19:15, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

Remove the texture, her queen doesn't have that. Lighten the shading a small bit and smooth it out more. 19:16, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 19:22, July 23, 2019 (UTC)'''

Define the light on the back leg closest to us, the front leg closest to us, and > this ear, and recede the neck shading. Expand the shading more on on the haunch, and add some connecting shading on the tail bend. Base is still a shade too light from the queen. What I do if I want to colorpick is I copy the image into another layer and use the colorpick tool to colorpick, then I hide the layer. Smooth out the shading more. 19:27, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

Fill in the missing hind leg, too. 19:32, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

'''reups, i matched the queen. now i'll fix the shading and fill in the missing leg. 19:38, July 23, 2019 (UTC)'''

I'm not seeing a difference in the shading, so could you smooth it out more? 19:41, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. is this better? 19:47, July 23, 2019 (UTC)'''

Smooth out the shading more on the chest shoulder and haunch, a bit on the tail too. 19:49, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

What's the light source here? 19:50, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. top left corner. 19:54, July 23, 2019 (UTC)'''

If your source is coming from the top left corner, all of the legs would be in shadow with this source (I think, but correct me if I'm wrong here). The shading could still be smoothed out, and defined on the stomach and haunch. 21:28, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 22:02, July 23, 2019 (UTC)'''

With that light source, I'm not sure there would be shading on (our) top left shoulder? 02:12, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

mhm. okay. 02:21, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. is this better? 02:26, July 24, 2019 (UTC)'''

The shading looks too overblurred, and more should be added along the curve of the haunch. 03:45, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading depth everywhere (add a thinner, darker layer of shading). 03:46, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 04:53, July 24, 2019 (UTC)'''

Can't tell if its just my eyes playing tricks, but, the image looks blurry? It might just be the waste outside the image doing that, so removing that might help. But, also smooth the shading some more on the back leg closest to us, so that it matches the smoothness you have for the front legs/chest area. This is looking really good!

'''reuploaded. '''

Add some shading to the other ear, define the shading depth, add more shading along the haunch, and remove the waste that's floating around her (ears, paws, tail is where the waste is). Define the light on >>> this side of the tail too. 22:12, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

Just as a head's up, you should be matching the original warrior, which the coloring should be from this version, as that was posted first. I only tweaked some eyelash issues. For some reason, the queen looks a little darker... ​​

Ferk tweaked the queen and since I think she darkened the base​ because she was the OA. 12:16, July 25, 2019 (UTC)

Regardless, this should match the original warrior, since that was first, not the queen. If anything, the queen should be tweaked to match the warrior. ​​

'''reuploaded. is this better, Jayce? 17:38, July 25, 2019 (UTC)'''

The shading on the tail seems to end abruptly, and there is a tiny bit of waste between the front and back paws.  Windsong  Run with the wind... ❀ 18:00, July 25, 2019 (UTC)

Lighten the shading, too, overall. 20:22, July 25, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light source on the tail. 20:24, July 25, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. question - if my image doesn't get approved within a month, will it get declined? 01:02, July 26, 2019 (UTC)'''

After a month of it being on the approval page, the image will be declined, yes. Can you define the light on the tail, and just a tad bit on the front leg closest to us? 23:49, July 26, 2019 (UTC)

I feel the shading could still be lightened overall 02:45, July 27, 2019 (UTC)

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'''reuploaded. 23:08, July 27, 2019 (UTC)'''

The image still appears to be overblurred, try checking your layers for waste and removing it to reduce the blurryness. -- 23:13, July 27, 2019 (UTC) '''reuploaded. meadowslip, have mercy on me.'''

Lighten/smooth the shading. -- 01:36, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded. 03:00, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading out more. Here's a little tip: If you're constantly being told to smooth out the shading, smooth it out a lot more than you usually do. I learned this and it really helps, trust me. -- 15:43, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

okay, thanks. 19:47, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 19:59, July 28, 2019 (UTC)'''

The image has that overblurred look to it again. Try checking for waste to remove or see if the background is acting up. -- 20:02, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded 21:56, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and add more shading depth in general to the image. -- 22:06, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded 03:22, July 29, 2019 (UTC)

Erase some of the shading on the tail to define the lightsource, and add some more facial shading? 01:57, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded. 16:19, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

I'm still not seeing much light on the tail. -- 16:29, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded. 19:26, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Define the light on the other half of the tail. -- 19:28, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

reupreuploaded.

You're not defining the light on the correct tail section. Define it on >>> this side, away from the bend. -- 20:25, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

could you redline it, please? 20:54, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

When I can get the computer, I'll gladly make one for you. -- 21:46, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

okay, thanks. 21:45, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

you go! Red is where there needs to be light, green is waste, and orange is where the shading needs to be defined. -- 21:53, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. thanks, potato. 05:18, August 2, 2019 (UTC)'''

Might you smooth out the tail shading and the shading on the visible back foot?

'''reuploaded. 18:59, August 2, 2019 (UTC)'''

Smooth out the shading on the back foot and tail, make sure you smooth it out when erasing. -- 16:51, August 4, 2019 (UTC)

can you lighten the shading on the -> ear? the earpink is a little hard to see <span style="">06:15 Mon Aug 5

'''reuploaded. 15:54, August 6, 2019 (UTC)'''

Add some more shading on the back end of the tail and in that odd patch in the middle of the front end. 03:48, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded.

There is a large amount of waste on the tail, and can you recede the shading some on that little shoulder line near the back and chest? I think it could be also smoothed out on the tail (which I showed you in the redline) and the back foot (not the back paw). Could you also add a thinner darker layer of shading to the image to help define the shading depth? -- 00:12, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded.

Lighten/smooth out the shading. Perhaps make the depth layer a tid thinner, and smooth it out as well. -- 00:52, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded.

Lighten the shading a lot more. -- 01:16, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded.

Define the light source. -- 04:07, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

Also define the edges of the shading some; it's all starting really get over blurred which is where, i think, you're losing your shading source 05:31, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded.

Much better!! Add a bit of shading under the chin and jaw. Add a bit of light to the top of the first part of the tail, at the bottom of the hind foot, and maybe a bit of light to the middle of the back 02:46, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded.

I've created a redline for you. Red is where you can add shading, blue is where shading can be removed, and green is waste along the back. Hope this helps ^^ 14:59, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. thanks, vec. ''' 18:44, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Leafpool (K) ~ CBA
01:53, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

I think the stripes on the main body should be thinner (you may have to add more after that), and the tips of the ears should be dark brown, too. 03:42, July 24, 2019 (UTC)

There shouldn't really be texture, just smudge lines from the stripes.

Reuploaded I might've did a thing 20:43, July 25, 2019 (UTC)

I think the stripes are less curvy on her other images

The stripes also appear to be less soft and slightly sharper on the other images. -- 18:59, July 27, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Yes? No? Maybe? 02:27, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

Sharpen the stripes more. -- 15:43, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Attempts were made 15:02, July 29, 2019 (UTC)

The stripes appear not as dark on the other images and they have this sketchiness to them...try running a small pencil tool on low opacity with the base color over the stripes and see how that works. 23:15, July 29, 2019 (UTC)

the stripes also look slightly overblurred

Reuploaded y'know I was so confident when I uploaded this the first time... 03:25, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

For a lack of better phrasing, the stripes on the other images seem less broken up. The dorsal stripe also seems to be thinner. Also, the stripes still seem overblurred

Reuploaded y'all are killing me 16:51, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Hey nice job on this, you're doing great^^ it might be my eyes, but the stripes seem a bit dark compared to her other images? And a little less blurred and more tapered at the ends. 23:22, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

On her other images, the stripes seem to connect with the dorsal stripe more often.

Reuploaded ok I fixed some of it but Patch I couldn't tell if you meant mine was too blurred or the others were blurred more.... I figured I'd end up having to upload this again anyway so 03:09, August 3, 2019 (UTC)

These ones looked a bit too blurred, more so on the face and tail (unless it's just my eyes?) I think the problem will be solved if you smudge them a bit, like how it looks on the MCA. The stripes on here still need to be lightened, and looking at the MCA which is on the same side, it looks like the stripe placement doesn't quite match up to what you've got on here. 14:33, August 3, 2019 (UTC)

I originally matched the mca and then vec said the stripes were too thick even though that's what the mca had :/ 23:44, August 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid the stripes. Tried a different technique with them than I usually do. Not entirely sure how it came out 02:33, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

soften the edges of the stripes slightly by running a very low strength smudge tool over the edges of the stripes. 10:36, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried 02:33, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

my comment from before still stands– the stripes still look too pencil-y. 04:15, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:01, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

For a lack of a better word, the stripes still look too hard edged. Maybe try a 1px brush and smudge the stripes horizontally

Reuploaded

CBA? 14:55, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Gorsetail (TNP) (W) ~ CBA
I think the shading needs to be smoothed some :/ also not sure how the tint came out 03:22, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

Yes the shading is very blotchy. Could you expand it some on the haunch? That should help. And maybe de-saturate the tint a bit? 04:21, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

The shading from the haunch is leaking onto the leg, and the shading is leaking on the back paw farthest from us. -- 15:15, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid the shading entirely 03:25, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Don't forget your sig! Smooth out the shading overall. -- 17:05, July 29, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded idk what you're talking about I totally put my sig in last time 03:25, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Could you make the shading on the top haunch curve downward more? 23:18, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded ?? 03:09, August 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah that looks good. Can you smooth the shading on the back of the shoulder? smooth it on the top of the haunch too. 14:36, August 3, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried and it was way harder than it should've been and there's not much of a difference zoomed out is there 02:33, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps recede some of the shading from the lower shoulder and upper haunch curved sections? I I don't think they would be that high with this lightsource. And maybe define the lightsource on the tail? 03:50, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded like this? 02:33, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

Even out the depth of the shading so it's more consistent; it's a bit over blurred in places like at the middle of the shoulder and tail 05:34, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:01, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

The shading still looks rather blotchy. smooth it out some?

Reuploaded 22:10, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

CBA 01:49, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Dark-colored ThunderClan kit (K) ~ For Evaluation
Hopefully you guys like it? Im really not good at shading because there are no tutorials for Pixlr char art --Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 23:11, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

Since this is from a manga, this needs to be in grayscale and needs a lighter muzzle. -- 23:13, July 30, 2019 (UTC) It is? What is grayscale? Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 23:31, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

Grayscale is the default manga color, so this must be defaulted to a darker gray. Could you also define the shading? -- 23:32, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

So a dark grey? With grey eyes? or can they stay green. And I can try shading but I dont know how to chade on Pixlr X which is what I need to use now... Thanks! Also Is there any other single colour blanks to do? Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 23:37, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

I would probably use a different program than Pixlr, such as GIMP or FireAlpaca, which are both free. Only the pelt would have to be in grayscale, the eyes and ear/nose pink can be any color you wish. You shade by getting a color, using the pencil tool to draw it on the pelt, lighten it, then blur/smudge it. -- 23:41, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

I have a chromebook and am only allowed to use pixlr X... Im confused also by what you mean RIP... and ok! SO a dark grey pelt Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 23:43, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

Alright, so you have a color wheel, right. Well, click on any color you want, then get your paintbrush/pencil tool and paint it following a clear light source like this, and then blur/smudge it with the respective tools to get a nice, smooth gradient. -- 23:46, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

I cant use the blur tool won't work? And ok! Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 23:53, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

Try setting the blur tool at 100% strength and check the hard-edged box and see if it works then. -- 23:55, July 30, 2019 (UTC)

It seemingly appears pixely and won't smooth out? Sorry if this is getting long... Should I delete MY messages? Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 00:01, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

No, all messages must stay on the approval page until the image is archived. I'd say post for now, and wait for further instruction. please excuse my lack of knowledge -- 00:03, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Its cool, Thank you! I will try to do it as best as possible. Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 00:08, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

NOOOO I just finished but then my wifi went out before I had saved it 0.o Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 00:39, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hopefully this is better? I have a version with the pencil lines but it doesn't look very good. If you dont like it could you fix the blur as pixlr just wont? Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 01:31, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Please do not thumb your images. I've also renamed this to File:BP.kit-4.png so please continue to reupload over there. I'd also like to reiterate what Potato said that it is probably best if you do not use Pixlr, as it does not have a good history with images in this project. There are other free art programs, such as GIMP and Firealpaca, that can make this process easier; plus there are several members of the project who are familiar with those programs.

The shading should be darkened a little more, and maybe smoothed out. Your light source looks very good. ^^ 01:44, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Ok! I found a tool but it is a bit hard to use... would this next reupload be more along the right lines? Also whats Thumbing? And ok! Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 01:55, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Thumbing is when the file name has a |left/right/thumb thing in the file name. To remove it, simply go into source editor and remove it from the name. -- 01:59, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded uhh ok! Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 02:00, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Upload under the name Vec gave you. Smooth out the shading everywhere, and Remove the waste that's outside the lineart. -- 02:01, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

I think that might be the best I can do shading wise :( I did upload under BP.kit but i called it BP.kit-5? Hopefully, that was right... And can do! Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 02:04, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

No, you need to upload over File:BP.kit-4.png. Simply click on the link, scroll down and click "Upload new version of file". Also, remove some of the shading on the tail and front limb; a similar light source that's easy to see is File:Dawnpelt.kit.alt.png. See how smooth the shading is and it's not covering all of the limbs? Try to match that. 02:08, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Darken the base quite a bit, since the description is dark-colored kit. -- 02:29, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Ok! I'm back and ready for action! (I rage quitted yesterday because I had the PERFECT art but didn't save it and the Wifi went out Rip) Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 22:55, July 31, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Is this more along those lines? Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 01:10, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

It's looking better, though I would recede the shading some, darken the earpink, and smooth out the shading on the tail. -- 01:13, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

Please re-upload over File:BP.kit-4.png like you were told to do. 01:24, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry I tried but it didn't work? I was gonna tell you but I forgot :( and ok Greenflower! Btw what do you mean recede the shading some? Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 01:27, August 1, 2019 (UTC) Fixed! --Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 01:30, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

By recede, I mean remove. -- 01:40, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

Un-thumbed, Moved to Bp.kit-4, and '''Re-upped! T'''his a bit better? You guys are really picky about your charart rip me and my lil Pixlr editor Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 02:16, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

Remember not to thumb your images. Darken the earpink a little bit. -- 03:41, August 1, 2019 (UTC)

there's some waste by the haunch. 05:02, August 2, 2019 (UTC)

try #5b3c3c for a good earpink color! <span style="">06:19 Mon Aug 5

Ok thanks guys! Im right back at it! Doing that earpink now. Hopefully I get it right! Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 21:48, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded! ''':) Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 21:57, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

The earpink is so much better! However, I think the nosepink should also be darkened too, as darker cats usually have either a dark maroon or gray nose. -- 21:59, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

YAy! Reuploaded Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 22:18, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

Recede the shading a tiny bit on the face and haunch/flank/main body area a bit, to make the light source a bit clearer. -- 22:30, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

I don't think I can... Is this acceptable or do I have to try? It won't look as smooth... Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 23:01, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

No, nonsense! All you have to do is erase the shading in those areas some, and smooth it out again! =) -- 23:06, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

I can try? The problem is It doesn't save the separate layers so when I open it they all merge... Meaning I don't have a top-line art layer or a separate shading layer. But I can try for you!

I might be able to help you with that. What program are you using? -- 23:13, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

Pixlr still XD Im trying now tho!Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 23:14, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think this may be the best I can do? with my limited software... I can try tho? Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 23:32, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

You've done a good job on this so far! I suggest you use a different art program instead of Pixlr... I've never used it, but I've heard it's pretty outdated and not the easiest to work with. A couple programs that you could try are GIMP and FireAlpaca (I believe both of those are free?) Could you smooth the shading so it appears more gradient on the face, tail, and a bit on the haunch? Blend the earpink into the pelt too, it looks fairly sharp at the moment, and define the light on the arm. 02:45, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

I can only use pixlr... I would use others if I could! Im going to revise (I think thats the right word) The art and reshow it to you patch because I think it looked better... I figured out a way to save layers tho! YAYYYY! Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 02:47, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I had short term access to Firealpaca and might again next wednesday So wish me gl! Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 06:01, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the body and face some more? 19:09, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Hopefully its ok????

Recede the shading past the eye on the face, darken the shading a bit, fill in the leaking shading on the haunch, and smooth the shading out more. -- 22:56, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

Aww I really want to do this but I just cant seem too... I'm just clogging up the page Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 08:22, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

Don't worry about having a lot of comments. I've had a lot of them too when I posted my first image.

Back to the image, it might be just me, but the ear looks cut off. Also, the shading depth could be defined. Do this by adding a darker, thinner layer of shading on top of your existing shading.

Sorry patch and green I had to go sorry be back soon maybe Pm me on discord? (Ask on my talk page) Milliemoo92 Sso (talk) 22:28, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

Per the description, this needs a pale muzzle. -- 23:29, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

Also, could you define the eye depth? I would use the burn tool and lightly burn over the bottom of the eye and make a soft gradient. -- 23:15, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Still working? 01:50, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

I am now! I got a brand new computer yesterday and got Firealpaca, And so I need some tips! I'm going to restart the whole kit. Is that ok? Moo (talk) 02:00, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this better?Moo (talk) 04:45, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

The background should be transparent, not white. <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 10:59, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Redlines for everyone! Red is where you can add shading, and blue is where you should erase it. 15:00, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

What do the Redlines mean? ah ok. And I can fix the background easily thanks! Moo (talk) 22:03, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded I did the redline thing and fixed the background! Moo (talk) 22:09, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

there's waste along the back and i don't see a difference with the muzzle. 03:21, August 16, 2019 (UTC)

Featherpelt (Ki) - For Evaluation
18:53, August 2, 2019 (UTC)

The stripes are overblurred and need to be thinner. Define the eye depth and light on the foreleg. -- 18:57, August 2, 2019 (UTC)

She needs short fur. 18:58, August 2, 2019 (UTC)

oh shoot, sorry patch. 19:02, August 2, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 20:53, August 2, 2019 (UTC)'''

This needs to match to the apprentice's side in terms of the stripes. -- 20:55, August 2, 2019 (UTC)

There is also some waste in front of the head, by the back legs and around the butt. (Am I allowed to say that?) <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong  <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 16:18, August 5, 2019 (UTC)

you can call the bottom area the haunch. sorry for being inactive. 17:48, August 5, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 15:55, August 6, 2019 (UTC)'''

Sharpen the stripes more, and the stripes are thinner and darker. -- 16:11, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

Define the shading on the head and remove some on the tail and foreleg. 03:50, August 7, 2019 (UTC

'''reuploaded. '''

The stripes are too dark, and there should be more in general. -- 17:06, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

Her stripes appear more horizontal on her other images. Reference the apprentice for them since it's on the same side. 19:11, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

Try to curve the stripes so that they look like they are on a 3D surface.

'''reuploaded. '''

Give the stripes some variation, just so they don't look the same. Also, match the stripes to her apprentice. -- 16:42, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 00:15, August 10, 2019 (UTC)'''

Stripes are too dark, and they should be smudged more to match the other images in her set. -- 03:03, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. '''

Define the light source. -- 15:12, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 20:44, August 10, 2019 (UTC)'''

There is some waste floating around her face, ear, and legs. Add some shading around her neck, kinda in the shape of a collar as seen here. -- 20:46, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 19:50, August 11, 2019 (UTC)'''

Darken the shading a tiny bit, and smudge the stripes a little. <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 21:19, August 11, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 22:14, August 11, 2019 (UTC)'''

Smudge the stripes more. <span style="color:violet;font-family:papyrus,serif;text-shadow:mistyrose 5px 3px 3px"> Crystie  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,cyan,lightblue);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">Can't help <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,honeydew,lightcyan);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">loving  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,hotpink,papayawhip);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">me  10:26, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

''i can't, or else the the stripes will be all.. blurry. 18:06, August 12, 2019 (UTC)''

Try a 1px smudge tool with a low rate to see if that works. The light should be defined some on the tail and foreleg. -- 18:17, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 21:25, August 14, 2019 (UTC)'''

reuploaded. 23:15, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Redline for the pattern. The apprentice's shoulder stripes are not cooperating with this blank -.- Also add some shading in the stomach area and smooth out the tail shading. The stripes also appear darker on the other images. 15:14, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. thank you. ''' 18:45, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Littlestep (W) - For Approval
I'll smooth the patches more in a bit, I just want to get this up. Been a while since I used SAI so I forgot how my smudge tool works. 21:28, August 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 22:47, August 5, 2019 (UTC)

I think the patches should be smoothed and smudged a bit more. 23:20, August 5, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:36, August 5, 2019 (UTC)

the starclan shows a little more white on this side, mainly around the stomach area <span style="">03:22 Tue Aug 6

Add a touch more shading depth on the haunch and tail

Reuploaded. Ended up just redoing the black patches. It went wrong when I smudged them originally. 22:30, August 6, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe try a 1px smudge tool softer brush

Reuploaded. 19:18, August 7, 2019 (UTC)

The black still appears finely smudged on the other images. 00:32, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Will SAI actually cooperate with me? Maybe. 21:39, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I'm finally on the right track. 23:48, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

See my comment on Perchwing. 02:07, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

the black looks a little gray around the shoulders <span style="">06:29 Wed Aug 14

Reuploaded. I just redid the black patches again because it was getting too difficult to manage them. They were getting oversmudged and it was going to be difficult to fix without flat-out redoing. 00:26, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Maplestar (K) - CBA
its 6 am, interesting hour <span style="">09:58 Fri Aug 9

the shading could be expanded everywhere, especially the face and haunch. <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 11:19, August 9, 2019 (UTC)

Still working? 16:13, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded yeah sorry, moving back to college rn <span style="">06:29 Wed Aug 14

CBA? 14:54, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Brook Where Small Fish Swim (Alt W) - CBA
This kind of texture madness is intentionally done like this. Before anyone jumps the gun, I asked permission from the OA of the image if I could redo it, but only because I'm doing it like this. ​​

darken the shading? 00:38, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I cannot get darker shading to work for the life of me.. I did shuffle a few things around, but I expect to get told to do more work to it. I'm trying something new with this, bear with me.

maybe try to tint the shading a slightly different color? i cant really see it either <span style="">11:24, 8/10/2019

I'm going to redo the shading anyways, but do you have a color suggestion, Winter? I have it as blue right now, but that doesn't seem to be working. I was thinking maybe a red instead?

I think a dark red would make it more standout-ish - if that helps :D

also if the shading is not working, you might want to try changing a light source and see if that helps. if that still doesnt, try running a 20% opacity eraser tool over the texture where the light would be hitting it? 00:52, August 11, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah i think a reddish gray could work. Or a light fuchsia <span style="">11:37, 8/11/2019

Re-uploaded. Tried a dark reddish color, and changed the source back to what I usually use. Experimenting the last few days did not provide what I wanted.

CBA? 14:54, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Oatwhisker (W) - For Evaluation
06:03, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading a little bit and add some to the bottom of the chest, to make that area look less flat

can you define the light on the front legs and the tail? <span style="">11:22, 8/10/2019

Add more shading to the very end of the tail and the back leg closest to us. -- 16:16, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 16:47, August 10, 2019 (UTC)'''

By adding more shading to the very end of the tail, I mean a line of shading stretching from the current tail shading to the tail-tip. -- 16:58, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 17:29, August 10, 2019 (UTC)'''

Could you define the light on the tail some, and add more shading stretching from the back to the back leg? -- 17:41, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 20:46, August 10, 2019 (UTC)'''

Yes! This is looking very good, Ripple. Can you add a slight bit of light to the back leg closest to us? Probably near the toe area. Can you also define the light on the front leg farthest from us slightly? -- 20:48, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. thank you. 19:55, August 11, 2019 (UTC)'''

Could you define the light on the front leg a little more? <span style="color:violet;font-family:papyrus,serif;text-shadow:mistyrose 5px 3px 3px"> Crystie  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,cyan,lightblue);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">Can't help <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,honeydew,lightcyan);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">loving  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,hotpink,papayawhip);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">me  01:09, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. 01:41, August 13, 2019 (UTC)'''

More redlines! Green is waste, red you should add shading (mostly on the front legs some more, and blue is where you should remove shading. 15:16, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

'''reuploaded. thanks. ''' 18:54, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Owlstar (SotC) (ki) ~ for approval
13:07, August 11, 2019 (UTC)

could you smooth the circle of shading on his cheek?

Reuploaded 18:46, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

Could you maybe smooth out the shading in general? 16:10, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Millie (Ki) ~ For Approval
this pattern was a pain in the butt to figure out  r ♥   <span style="style" title="will i ever be more than i&lt;span data-rte-entity=">' ve always been" data-rte-attribs=" style title=will i ever be more than i've always been"&gt;waving through <span style="style" title="cuz i&lt;span data-rte-entity=">' m tap, tap, tappin on the glass" data-rte-attribs=" style title=cuz i'm tap, tap, tappin on the glass"&gt;a window <18:14, 8/12/2019> ​

Extend the shading into the bend of the haunch/hip a bit more 04:18, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Pebble That Rolls Down Mountain (K) - For Approval
they see me rolling -- 23:22, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

Define and perhaps expand the shading. r ♥  <span style="style" title="will i ever be more than i&lt;span data-rte-entity=">' ve always been" data-rte-attribs=" style title=will i ever be more than i've always been"&gt;waving through <span style="style" title="cuz i&lt;span data-rte-entity=">' m tap, tap, tappin on the glass" data-rte-attribs=" style title=cuz i'm tap, tap, tappin on the glass"&gt;a window <00:36, 8/13/2019> ​

Reuploaded -- 23:02, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

The eyes seems bluer on the other images. 23:23, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded There, they should be blue now. -- 23:48, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

One-eye (Alt. W) - For Approval
Her eye would still be cloudy and not fully covered with tissue yet, so I made it this way. I'll also fix up the shading more tomorrow. -- 00:12, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Since you'll be fixing it up, add 'darken and define' to that list, if you don't mind. The legs especially could use a bit more shading. ​​​

Reuploaded yes yes I can -- 23:02, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Could you define the shading on the tail, especially on what I assume to be a pale part? It looks like there isn't any shading there. r ♥  <span style="style" title="will i ever be more than i&lt;span data-rte-entity=">' ve always been" data-rte-attribs=" style title=will i ever be more than i've always been"&gt;waving through <span style="style" title="cuz i&lt;span data-rte-entity=">' m tap, tap, tappin on the glass" data-rte-attribs=" style title=cuz i'm tap, tap, tappin on the glass"&gt;a window <23:37, 8/13/2019> ​

Sorry, but what do you mean Star? -- 23:39, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

I think Star is referring to the unshaded part on <--- part of the tail. I believe it could be filled in with shading since it seems out of place. 23:22, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for clarifying! -- 23:50, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

could you expand the shading just a little bit on her side/haunch? and maybe add some to the muzzle area, to make it look less flat

Reuploaded -- 00:48, August 16, 2019 (UTC)

Plumwillow (W) ~ For Approval
Another Plumwillow! :P <span style="color:violet;font-family:papyrus,serif;text-shadow:mistyrose 5px 3px 3px"> Crystie  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,cyan,lightblue);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">Can't help <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,honeydew,lightcyan);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">loving  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,hotpink,papayawhip);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">me  04:14, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

There's some leaking shading along <--- front limb, and could you add some shading on the very bottom of the haunch where it meets the hind foot, and along the hind foot too? Let me know if that doesn't may any sense >.> 16:07, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this okay? <span style="color:violet;font-family:papyrus,serif;text-shadow:mistyrose 5px 3px 3px"> Crystie  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,cyan,lightblue);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">Can't help <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,honeydew,lightcyan);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">loving  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,hotpink,papayawhip);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">me  01:17, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

This is looking great! I would define the shading some on the back leg and foreleg, and maybe a little light on the tail wouldn't hurt to be defined either. -- 01:23, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, Potato!!! :D <span style="color:violet;font-family:papyrus,serif;text-shadow:mistyrose 5px 3px 3px"> Crystie  ''<span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,cyan,lightblue);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">Can't help  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,honeydew,lightcyan);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">loving  <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(right,hotpink,papayawhip);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;font-family:Chiller,serif">me  12:41, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Redline! Red is where you should add shading (missing in a few places, such as the head), and blue is where you should remove shading (most notably on the tail). 15:19, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Snowfur (W) - For Approval
04:16, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a bit? ​​

Maybe recede the ear gray just a bit? Malina457 (talk) 23:54, August 13, 2019 (UTC)malina

Re-uploaded 06:02, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps add some more eye depth? 23:23, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 16:31, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Petalfur (W) ~ CBA
No nose colour was defined so I made it a very light pink. If you think it should be darker just say. <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 13:19, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

The og kit has a darker pink color for the nose, so try using that ^^ 16:08, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded thanks vec! <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 18:52, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Could you possibly tweak the shading on the white? I have a very rough time distinguishing the white parts from the shading itself. ​​

Expand the white on the face to match the old warrior and kit images. 23:03, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 16:21, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 15:20, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Raindrop (K) ~ CBA
<font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 13:57, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

I think the gray on the face should be smudged just a teensy bit more. -- 23:05, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 16:08, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

CBA? 15:19, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Rowanclaw (W) - For Approval
This should have gone up with my last two, but I was lazy 22:36, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

I think there should be more stripes on the tail? -- 23:04, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Reup 02:12, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe have some of the paler sections creep onto the shoulders a bit? Kinda like the deputy, app, and such. 23:25, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Reup 01:56, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Petalfur (Ki) ~ For Approval
Comments? 23:07, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

I think this would have some white visible above the tail tip? Pretty sure the neck/shoulder white would be seen with this pose? 23:23, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

The transition between the white and gray appears smoother on her other images. 19:39, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Perchwing (W) - For Approval
Okay after the failure with SAI I have this ready. Matched the apprentice rather than the old warrior since they didn't seem to match very well. 23:34, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

The patches seem more oddly shaped and not uniform on the app; here they seem smooth and round (shape wise). 02:04, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Actually, now that I think about it, if you switched the smudging technique between this and Littlestep, both would be pretty spot on. 02:06, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried. 00:35, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Rabbitleap (TC) (K) ~ For Approval
boing <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 17:39, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Extend the earpink just a touch more and smooth the shading on the haunch 02:05, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="#49129b"><font face="Segoe Print"> Windsong <font color="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Run with the wind... ❀ 10:58, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Rabbitleap (SkC) (K) ~ CBA
20:23, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Rockshade (K) ~ For CBA


20:23, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Ratscar (K) ~ CBA
20:23, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

CBA?

Podlight (W) ~ For Approval
23:27, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Nightwing (W) - For Approval
She fell off the face of the earth I guess -- 00:27, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

could you define the depth on her chest a little bit? or maybe the light, if thats easier?

Reuploaded -- 00:47, August 16, 2019 (UTC)

Ratscar (W) - For Approval
Bitey boy 01:58, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Podlight (K) ~ For Approval
Managed to squeeze another one before shenanigans happen. 03:08, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Patchpelt (K) ~ For Approval
18:09, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Petalkit (MV) (K) - For Approval
matched to her icon colours seeing as we did that with her half siblings?

Oakfur (W) - For Approval
21:27, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Pikepaw (MO) (K) - For Approval
matched to the apprentice as best as i could

Willowbreeze (W) - For Approval
04:09, August 16, 2019 (UTC)