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SkyClan ancestors and StarClan
So what should we do with this now that SkyClan's Ancestors are back with the "original" (for lack of better word) StarClan?

I believe that they're not in StarClan altogether, I think they should be current StarClan, but their SkyClan Ancestors would be their past affie as it was its own "StarClan" until they all joined together. C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 #cat lady 03:16, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

I have to agree with that, that's what I was thinking. Seems like the best option, seeing as they were on their own for a while like their own Clan. Maybe temporarily should be put afterwards in parentheses.

But temporarily isn't the right word. They never had any intentions, as far as I know, to go back to the rest of StarClan. Temporary would be used in cases where there is clear intent to revert back to the original circumstance- such as Sorreltail temporarily mentoring Foxleap, while Squirrelflight ventured to the mountains in Outcast.

Ah, okay. That makes a lot more sense.

I agree with Cosmo about giving all the SkyClan ancestors their current affiliation as StarClan, and then putting SkyClan Ancestor as a past affiliation. 19:35, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

^^So do I. 01:13, September 20, 2017 (UTC)

^ yep.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  09:33, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

Anymore comments?Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  01:02, October 2, 2017 (UTC)

Since there are no more comments, SkyClan Ancestors will have this affiliations moved to their past affiliation and StarClan will be their current affiliation.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  06:12, October 13, 2017 (UTC)

What cite should we use for the StarClan one, though? I forget exaclty. The TAQ prologue?

Nevermind, I found it. Shattered Sky, page 265.

Hollowkit ~ Silver Nomination
I think i wrote most, if not all, of the article. correct me if I'm wrong. 06:30, 10/13/2017

Mind combining one or two of the paragraphs? Mainly these two should be merged with other sections, as imo they don't really make a paragraph by themselves but idk:
 * Tigerheart drops a mouse, and the kits rush over. Lightkit sniffs at the prey, and Hollowkit and Spirekit hurry over. Spirekit complains, and his brother wrinkles his nose.
 * He and the other cats return to ShadowClan, and are accepted with joy.

fixed. 03:22, 10/14/2017

Comments before vote? 21:21, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

Fuzzball ~ Silver Nomination
Sorry I let it sit for so long, busy as hell

Fixed.
 * Could you add a few more quotes/mainly some dialogue pieces? He has some cute ones; there's one on Rose's page you could grab, and I'm sure one with him and Ajax would be good too.
 * 'Tigerheart' and 'kittypet' a bit redundant in the first paragraph, and 'Fuzzball' is a bit redundant in the 4th and 8th paragraphs
 * Rose gently tells him that Fuzzball suits him better. Fuzzball retorts that Tigerheart would suit him better. - suit him better is pretty redundant here

Comments before vote? 20:22, October 14, 2017 (UTC)

Credits
Bringing this up because I posted it in PB and I believe it should also be posted here. I am just going to get straight to the fact - I believe that since we have incorporated this into PB, we should be crediting the users who worked on articles we are nominating before us specifically. Like, when we nominate an article and say "credits to those who worked before me," I sincerely believe we should say their usernames, or say exactly who they were. It does not seem fair to me that we can just simply say "credits to those" without acknowledging who they are, despite the fact that they, and others, worked on it. I think it is just a show of respect. 05:40, October 14, 2017 (UTC)

I agree with this, which is why I did so with my most recent nomination.

I agree, thanks for bringing it to attention I'll definitely do it from now on.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  04:26, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

question
there's probably something I missed but was it ever proven that rushtail (omen of the stars I think) is the same as rushpaw from battles of the clans? 19:31, October 14, 2017 (UTC)

we've had a discussion earlier for something similiar. Basically, they are both RiverClan, both apprentices at the same time (Battles of the Clans happens around Night Whispers, and Rushtail is an apprentice from The Fourth Apprentice until Sign of the Moon) and yeah, it's incredibly unlikely they are not the same cat. If there was an inconsistency, say from different Clan, then yes they would be different cats but there's not so I think we can consider them as the same cat.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  04:33, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

I still have the question of "where is your proof"? Them existing all around the same time...isn't really proof, man. I realize I'm outnumbered in this, but at the same time, it goes against our rules here to actually have the information listed like it's confirmed, when it's not. You're using things that appear to be coincidences, not actual proof. I said the same thing before, and I'll be saying the same thing now.

I think Rushtail and Rushpaw from Battles of the Clans should be counted as separate cats unless there's some sort of proof I'm not seeing. I mean, the Secrets of the Clans story we know for sure took place Forest of Secrets, when Shadepaw and Silverpaw were listed in the allegiances in the book. Meanwhile, this Rushpaw story has no specific date, and Tanglepaw, Pikepaw, Duckpaw (other apprentices in the story) are exclusive just to BotC and don't featue in OotS, so it's not a completely parallel story. 12:41, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

The only thing we do have concrete proof for is that at least that story does take place after Fading Echoes, due to Mistystar being leader. We, as far as I know, don't have anything else; just because one or two stories take place during a certain time, doesn't mean the rest of them do....and basically I second what Ivybreeze says.

redirect
Should there be a category for Guardian Cat redirects? Similar to Loner Redirect, Queen Redirect, etc. For pages like Spire, and whenever ShadowClan will probably force their new members to have warrior names

I have to agree with this. ShadowClan is bound to have the newcomers get new names.

Agreed. I think that's a general rule for all positions, so go ahead.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  04:33, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

November FA
Any suggestions?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  04:43, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

How about Tawnypelt?

Her TS section isn't filled out, though. Maybe as part of a SkyClan theme, we could do Duskpaw? Unless someone wants to fill out Tawnypelt.

I'll fill out Tawnypelt's TS section.

Alright, then Tawnypelt sounds good to me ^^

Yup, I'm okay with Tawnypelt.

Sus cites
I know im not a member to this community that much but i noticed this a couple of days ago while looking up information on characters. All of Sus cites for vickys facebook are gone. Her comments have either been deleted or she deleted her facebook. Which can only mean that you need to get rid of all of sus facebook cites. I understand that it would get rid of a lot of information, but its technically non canon.

Which brings me to another topic. Someone mentioned that the german warriors wiki has screencaps, but i dont think you should use those, simply because if it doesnt exist on facebook, then it technically doesnt exist at all. And that can be taken the wrong way canonically, especially the fact that screencaps can be "faked".

Tldr; you need to take down the su susann citations on facebook CØØKIE (talk) 18:21, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

Shattered Ice's affilation
So, the cite for his WindClan affilation is Tallstar's Revenge. But I have two counterpoints as to why we should actually keep it. Tallstar's Revenge talked about him tunneling, which could be in reference to what he did in WindClan's group before it was WindClan (back when they were Tall Shadow's group). In the TR preview, it even mentioned Jackdaw's Cry tunneling with him as well. Again, he was only alive when they were Tall Shadow's group. In Thunderstar's Echo, Thunderstar mentions something like that "when he was with SkyClan" and this was referncing to before they were called "Clans". So Shattered Ice might not necessarily be in WindClan anymore at this point. Now that we actually have Dawn of the Clans as a series, and the latest novella Thunderstar's Echo still lists him as RiverClan, I believe we should keep up with the most recent canon affilation. Also, the Erins have retconned things before, so this is not something new, even if I'm wrong about my first point. 18:44, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

He could have easily moved to WindClan after the events of Thunderstar's Echo. We don't know what happened after that and what caused him to be mentioned as a WindClan cat. There's no reason to ignore canon when we have nothing to disprove it.

Eh, yeah, I guess I can't really argue with that...