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Blackclaw (E) - Withdrawn
Since there are a few images that are being approved/declined, I decided it was okay to post Blackclaw as an elder. Comments/Criticism? --Happy New Year! 09 01:56, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

dodge the middle,cause i chan't see the shading now.-- *Ivy  jingle jingle!!*  04:04, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. Anything other comments? --Happy New Year! 09 19:20, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps darken the ear pink a little? More like his warrior image- Blackclaw--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 21:41, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Done. --Happy New Year! 09 14:20, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 10:01, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Better? --Happy New Year! 09 15:03, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a little bit darker, the same color as his warrior image. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:46, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been touched in a week, please work on it or it will be declined Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:03, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can you keep this up for another day? I just installed Windows XP on my computer and I haven't transfered all my old information to it. I'll do it as soon as I can. Snowfall 09 03:12, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, done. Anything else? Snowfall 09 03:18, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a bit more, and then this should be good. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in a week. Please upload soon or it will be declined Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 07:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I've lost interest in continuing on working on this image. Consider this withdrawn. Snowfall 09 23:58, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

If it's okay with Blackclaw I could put on the final touches to get it approved... I mean, it's a very nice looking image, it'd be a shame to get it declined now. insan TA STE  THE  RAIN BOW  eu lar  00:23, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

When an image is withdrawn, the user loses his rights to it. You can go ahead and finish it up, Insane, so long as you give credit. Bramble -sama  23:47, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Is it okay if I finish it while I have Skywatcher up or do I have to wait until he gets approved? Just don't want to be doing them both at once if I'm not supposed to. insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  00:25, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Tadpole (Ki)- For Approval
So this is my first cat up for approval. Any suggestions?--QuailflightTheCat 00:13, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Good job for your first charart! But the lineart seems kind of blurred... try doing it again with this blank: The shading looks great though! -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆00:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. That's probably my horrible shading. 8)--Quail 01:01, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

No, the shading's great! Tell me if you need any help with it. I'm fairly good at black cats. And you've took on a hard one for your first charart! Black and white cats are the hardest to shade - trust me, I know! Snowfur was my first cat! -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆01:06, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I know too. Before it switched to Kestrelflight, that section was Hollyleaf-who I'm thinking of reposting. Snowfern Snow!

Thanks, Batwing. I'm going to re-upload it, and make sure it looks better. I didn't use any highlighting, oh yeah, something's wrong with my siggy! :( 8|--Quail! Meow! 01:53, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Okay, I re did it. Hopefully this is a little better.--Quail! Meow! 03:00, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, I think Blackclaw had this reserved first, but I'm not positive. I'll check the history--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:22, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Acually Quail, I don't even see your siggie on the current project list. Did you even reserve Tadpole?--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 03:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I did. At the bottom. Sorry for any problem, Snowfall. --Quail! Meow! 03:31, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well it looks as if Blackclaw reserved Tadpole under the status as a rogue, however Tadpole was seen as a rogue kitten. You may have reserved him later on under the right blank I believe, but Blackclaw did reserve Tadpole first even if it wasn't under the right status. I'm not a senior warrior anymore so I think we might have to ask Sandy or Bramble about this...or maybe Blackclaw will let you keep the image up.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  03:55, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm....I didn't see Blackclaw's name on the reserve list, and no Tadpole, it should be okay.--Quail! Meow! 04:02, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, you only reserved Tadpole after I told you you weren't on the list. Anyway, Shimmerpool's right. Ask Bramble, Sandy, or Blackclaw--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 04:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Blackclaw is under a different name as they changed their for the holidays. It is Rainwhisker and the 6th user on the page. Check for yourself and click the link and it will take you to Blackclaw's page. I for one only have to hover over a person's name to see what userpage it will take me too.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  06:17, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Talk to Rainwhisker about it, Quailflight. I'm going to stay out of this one, because of her doing a rogue version when he's just a kitten. -- Bramble -sama  22:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

You can keep this up for approval, since I reserved him in the wrong blank and you got him up first, so keep it. I'll remove him from my reservations (current projects list). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Red; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Yellow; ">Happy New Year! 09 00:09, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks really strange, it's lighter than the pelt. The shading is supposed to be darker the pelt, not lighter. Also, darken and blur the ear pink. There are some white pixels on his front left paw, and the eyes don't really look right. Look at Icethroat's tutorials to see how to do the kits's eyes-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:53, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Blackclaw let me keep the image, so I reuploaded it. The file is Tad5.-- Qua il! <font color="Green"> Meow!06:54, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink and nose need to be a bit darker. People usually choose Rippletail as a good color. Also try to make the earpink as close to the same size as possible, right now his left ear is bigger than the right.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 03:30, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I changed the ear and nose colors. Anything else?-- Qua il! <font color="Green"> Meow!00:48, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay...I'm pretty happy with my charart....but I'll reupload it...-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!10:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-It doesn't look like I did much, but I was trying to make the ears a little lighter, and balance out the highlights. Any suggestions? QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!10:27, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'd personally advise you get rid of the highlights and just use shading on a kit. Thicken the neck shading and blend. Make the ear pink smaller and get a tiny size 3 brush to blur slightly. Also - take a darker reddish-pink colour such as on Crowtail or my awful image of Cloudspots ^_^ Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-lightened ears and nose, and got rid of highlights, as Sandy said.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box21:00, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink looks too hot pink to me. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:26, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, it looks more purple to me. Make it more like this- Blackclaw Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I tried to make the ears a little better.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box03:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a redish color. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 20:02, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-used more red in ears.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box22:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there's some lineart missing on the paws - check the kit blanks and replace it. The ear pink needs blending slightly (be carfeul not to blur the lineart) and the shading needs to be darker. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  11:48, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I redid the whole image, even though I think this is worst.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box23:56, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink a lot more, and thicken all of the shading a bit more. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:44, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded Blurred and thickened. Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 05:31, January 23, 2010 (UTC)'''

The shading still needs blending and the ear pink/nose is too red. Make it a paler reddish-pink like Morningflower or Blackclaw OR a greyish-pink like Darkstar. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:52, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yep what sandy said. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 13:08, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Rock Beneath Still Water (CG) - For Approval
I know this is #41(whoa), but there's one discussion, four images in the 24 hour stage, and one to be declined. I really hate his tail. Why did Sharptooth have to bite it off? G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:58, January 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I really like the mud lightning, but I think the ear pink could be red, or darker. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:45, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, his stumpy tail doesn't look right. There's no lineart to indicate where the tail ends. Try fixing that-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:25, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I like the coloring, but I think the tail would look a smidge less odd if it stuck out past the body a little bit. Not a ton, because I know it has to be short, but the way it is now it almost looks like part of the body, so if you made it stick out a bit it would be more clear that it was the tail. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you mean. If you do that on a cave guard blank....As for the ear pink, I took the same colour which I used on Jag, as if I'm not wrong, that's the standard colour. If I am wrong, just tell me, and I'll change it. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

But Jag isn't the same color as Rock. I can barely see the ear pink on this one-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was looking at the tail in the wrong direction, but I figured out what the problem is after looking at the blank again. I think you just forgot to put the end of the tail in? It looks like the tail just vanishes... (Maybe it's my computer screen, since his fur is so dark) but I made a diagram to show what I mean. I think when you were erasing the tail you just forgot to put in a new end, like that. As I said, I'm on a semi-cruddy monitor right now, so it might be the screen not letting me see it, but... yeah... <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 17:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

No Insaneular, you're right. There's no end to the tail. That's what I was trying to say in my first comment.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. G r a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The way you ended the tail looks odd. Maybe make it a bit longer. I dont really know how to describe what I'm talking about.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:12, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with Ashshadow, can you make the tail a bit longer, so it overlaps with the front leg a bit? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 21:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

It is supposed to be a stump. And I don't think stumps are that long. "...whose tail was merely a stump."– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 05:47, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but maybe make the end more round. It looks to boxish-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:52, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

D'oh! Just ignore me, then. I was thinking just a short tail, not a stump. *fail* <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 12:06, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 04:05, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the tail is better. But his hanuch is bothering me. Do them more like this maybe?-

-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:52, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe bring the line down a little or get rid of that black pixel.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:09, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? – – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 10:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

There is a black spot above his foot. Either get rid of it or connect the leg to it. I can make an example if you need it.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 14:47, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 09:34, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some more shading and blend it. The shading you have now has been donne on highlights right? It looks very... saturated ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:37, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.– – G r  a y  r a  v e  n p  a <span style="color:darkgreen; background:orange; border:1px solid magenta;" title="what links to my userpage">w  – – Scourge • Redtail • Graystripe • Cinderpelt 11:54, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit brighter and more noticeable. Also, blur the mud streaks a tad bit more. -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 19:19, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Also add a streak to his head-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:50, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Icicle (K) For Approval


Hi! This is my first charart. It's Icicle the kit from the Ravenpaw's Path Manga series. Please leave comments and stuff so I can fix it. Also, as an apprintice I want to say Bluestar's tutorial was very helpful. Thank you Bluestar! I had no clue what to do! This isn't very good but like I said, it's my first cat. Tell me what to do and thanks! May StarClan light your path!Artimas Hunter 19:14, January 8, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, first of all in needs to be full size, right now it's thumb nail. Second, I see you've saved it in jpg format. It's a way better idea to save it in either png. or gif. Third, the background needs to be transparent right now it's black. Fourth, the eyes need eye white. Look at this for help--User:Icethroat21/Tutorials. Fifth, the ear pink is to hot pink, make it lighter and then blur. Sixth, she's supposed to be pale gray, with a white stripe on her forhead, a white chest, see here -Icicle She just looks white. Darken the gray on her pelt, and blend the spots where it's supposed to be white-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:23, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Glad I could help! Ok, go back and save it in your image program, but save it as a PNG, so the background will be transparent. You need to make the white mark very, very pale gray, and darken the pelt color. The ear pink looks too hot pink - see the chart on my tutorials for reference. He needs highlights, and the shading needs to be darkened/thickened. The eyes also need a glare (little white dot). See Icethroat's tutorials on how to do the eye. -- ★ Bat wing ☽ <font color="Black"> ⋆Deputy⋆23:09, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits! I changed it so it fits both of your suggestions!Artimas Hunter 17:11, January 9, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Better. Now blur the white parts.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Artimas Hunter 20:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This looks good =) You need to blur the white a bit more though - try looking at some other patched cats to see how much to blur. Also, the shading needs to be a bit thicker and blended in more. Look at Applefur's kit version for an example as to how I would shade a kit. Be careful not to blur the lineart though. This is a great start to a first image =) Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  20:30, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I think it turned out okay too. :D Is this better?Artimas Hunter 21:01, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

This is really good but, darken the earpink a tad.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:09, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this is better? I'm so excited for it to be approved! I hope it's soon!00:05, January 12, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay sorry if this goes into another chart, my computer's got a problem, anyways here is Icicle again for approval. Comment back! I think she's almost ready for approval but I am kinda biased on the opinion! :D Artimas Hunter 21:42, January 13, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Hi! I know I'm being really impatient but I'm bored and no one has comented for days. Would someone have mercy and comment PLEASE??!! I want her to be approved cause I made 2 other chararts that are ready to go when she gets approved.Artimas Hunter 22:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

The highlight looks too bright Icecloud33  00:25, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

'''I think you're looking at the white chest and think theyre highlights. The earpink color still isnt quite right, try a color like Tess or Husker and blur it'''.The font is actin up on me T.T Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:42, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you soooooooooooo much for commenting! i think I was about to explode! :D I see what you mean aboutt the font.....anyways, here is Icicle revised! Ashshadow is right, she has a white chest not highlights but if those were highlights they would be WAY to bright! What do you think? I'm so excited!Artimas Hunter 01:28, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

- Okay, I know this is my own image and I don't normally give them as examples, but you need to make the shading thicker and darker and blurred. You could also use Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  18:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better?Artimas Hunter 23:50, January 15, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the shading some more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 02:07, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better?Artimas Hunter 20:28, January 18, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Getting there =) Add some shading under the neck and on the face ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:11, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Thanks, I hope I get done soon! It's turning out way better then I thought it would!Artimas Hunter 22:11, January 21, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Okay, now blend the shading ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? It's not blurring well biut that might just be me. Do you think it needs more?Artimas Hunter 00:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Sootfur (Ki) For Approval
I know this is the 41st one, but there are 1 or 2 join requests and like 4 with a comments before approval on them. So here is one of my favorite ThunderClan cats as a kit! -- Night whisker 9 8 Merry Leaf-bare! 21:36, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shding alot more please. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 22:12, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Better?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 22:16, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

abit more.And the shading near the left side of the head looks weird to me. ☮★Fire★☮  Starclan watchs over me★ 23:46, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more and darken ear pink. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:violet;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 01:50, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, how's this? And FirePelt, what do you mean by it looks weird. If you could help me, that would be great.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:24, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, but the lineart is a little patchy, and the ear pink is hardly visible.-- Dark hallows 14:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Patchy how?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 15:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks blurred in some places.-- :) Mousetalon Meow to me! 19:04, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded... Anything else?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 14:02, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred, the ear pink is too large and barely visible, and theres no dodging. Otherwise, it's great! :D Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

I'm not sure about this, but highlights aren't required, although shading is, also I have blurred the shading to the max on pixlr, If you wanted to help me with the shading, that would be awesome, and about the earpink, what color should it be?  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

You're right about highlights, they're not required. And as for the ear pink, look at his warrior image for help on the color- Sootfur-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:45, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Soory, but uploads are disabled. I fixed the ear pink color though.  Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:33, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuloaded. better now? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 20:24, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading on his hind foot. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:41, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:12, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this ok? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:16, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the lineart for you, as you'd distorted it a quite bit... other than that, all I really see is that the hind paw needs a little more shading on it's far end, and to blur the existing shading. Also, don't upload a new file each time; just upload over the old file name. -- Bramble -sama  02:35, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the eyes. They look scary. Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 06:43, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Scary How? -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 13:46, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

(S) - I think what Quaily means is that the eyes look sort of orange. I think. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading under the chin. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:39, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I used his warrior image's eye color, but i'll fix it. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenfur (Kit) for approval


Ok.... This is my first kit. I looked at the tutorials, and i'm not quite sure if I shaded, dodged, burned, and blurred right but..... I'm an apprentice, and proud of my work! :D Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Try uploading it on here so we can see the picture without clicking on the link.-- Nightshine Let it snow! 01:39, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I tried, but It didn't work... Do you think you could save it and upload it yourself? Swiftpelt 04:01, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Got it. That's a very interesting file name though-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred more, and... it looks a little yellow.-- Dark hallows 14:28, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the yellow spots. Make the ear pink darker and thicken the tabby stripes.--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:fushia; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Icestorm I LIKE TACO BELL!!! 21:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is like, hot pink. Make it like his warrior image-- Brackenfur. And the stripes look way to much like thin veins. Maybe try and make them a little thicker, or bigger, then blur them. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:00, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The ear pink is much better. But his nose needs to be the same color as the ear pink, or at least really close-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:49, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Nose fixed. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The Tabby stripes need to be blurred, and his pelt color looks a bit too orange, can you try and make it a bit more golden brown like his warrior pic? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 00:46, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now it's about as golden brown as It can get. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Look at his warrior image and take the colours from there. Snowfern Snow! 01:44, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I gave it better coloring. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Okay, the color is a lot better. But the ear pink looks weird, one's smaller than the other. Please make them as even as possible. Second, the stripes still need to be blurred some. And third, the eyes look... strange. Like maybe some lineart was cut off? Look at User:Icethroat21/Tutorials for help on the eye-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:10, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Eyes fixed, ears fixed, stripes blurred. Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Add a stripe to each of the front two paws, blur the highlights, and there's some lineart missing in multiple places. Also, the ear pink looks a little purplish, make it more pinkish or reddish. --  Icy -chan  16:56, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded A else? Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The ear pink is too bright, make it more salmony. Second, blur his chest shading.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  02:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

Look at his warrior image for earpink color and blur chest shading more. -- Night whisker 98 Rawr! 21:11, January 14, 2010 (UTC) Brackenfur

' ' 'Reuploaded' ' ' I think this has been up for about a week now. :O Swiftpelt 13:00, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Blend the highlights on his chest and add some tabby markings to his chest. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:13, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Swiftpelt 23:05, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks too thin. Try copying it back over the blank. --  Icy -chan   ☆  23:55, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Swifty How's the prey running?

Darken the shading and add some under his chin. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:30, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Swifty How's the prey running?

The stripes on the chest look really wierd. They look all jumbled up together. Try deleting some, and blur them a lot.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded  Swifty How's the prey running?

Sasha (Q) - For Approval
if somebody has it, please let me do it!!it took me time.and leafpool;s for comments before approval, so i think its okay..-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, but you should either blur or burn the brown parts.. Then it will look perfect! Swiftpelt How's the prey running?

The shading looks a little lumpy. Blend it more.-- Dark hallows 14:25, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Can you darken the brown stripes and other markings a bit? They look a little lighter then the rogue version... <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 17:33, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks AMAZING!!!! I don't know how you get approval cuz I'm an apprintice but you should get it!!!Artimas Hunter 22:37, January 10, 2010 (UTC)Artimas Hunter

Blur the belly shading A LOT.-- Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  00:50, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 10:44, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blur it some more. --  Icy -chan   ♥  22:07, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 03:06, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

She looks a little cross eyed. Try making the eyes like in Poppyfrost--  Night shine   ★  04:14, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightshine, she looks a little cross-eyed, but overall beautiful-- QuailflightTheAVATAR! <font color="Black">Give me a mouse. NOW!04:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 02:41, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights across her pelt, they look lumpy Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:53, January 16, 2010 (UTC) reuploadedlalala!!i'm gonna see avatar!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! 11:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Cool, I hope you like it :) And that looks much better. But make the ear pink a little bigger, look at an approved queen image for reference  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

i don't see problems.. anyway night,thanks for adding comments every time!:)--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 06:57, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt looks a bit smudgy - blend it some more. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:59, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded!!--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 11:14, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink. And just do a once-over with the blur tool over the whole image. Bramble -sama  02:26, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 04:19, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

I can still see where you've used to the smudge tool... ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:53, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded--.-- :) Ivy Hi there!! |undefined 06:56, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks - For Approval


Ok here are the Sharpclaw blanks from left to right it short hair male, short hair female, long hair male and long hair female. What do you think? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:10, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

These are great! Maybe for the long haired you could make the face a bit shaggy.  Night shine   ★  01:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean like add couple lines like what on the chest to show the fur? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 01:17, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah.  Night shine   ★  01:43, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded how is that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 02:50, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, these are really good, but I think Hawktalon (Or Flamingomom) had these reserved first. The date says Jan. 11 Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's great! But I guess Hawtalon did reserve it first. Maybe these could be something else? But there is nothing else  Night shine   ★  03:03, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I guess you could ask Hawktalon if you could keep these. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:05, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Shot I looked but I guess I missed her. I spoke to her know I'm waiting to hear back. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 03:34, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I kinda dought Hawktalon's on right now. You might have to wait until tomorrow Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

i heard back from Hawktalon she said that i could have it : ) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 21:44, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Thickin the line art for the features such as eyes and nose. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:46, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Really good! But maybe thicken the pupil in all the eyes. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;">Wetstar Taylor Swift! 22:13, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok before I edit all of them here is what one looks with thicker lines on the featues and thicker puplis does it look better? Personaly I like the first ones better <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 22:19, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the pupils but I think the features look better. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:28, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

I've got a few things. First of all, they all look kinda sad, like their whiskers are all droopy and their eyes are flat. Both the ears and paws are too round. Sharpen the ears some, and as for the paws, make them a little more flat on the bottom. And then their elbows look a little too flappy, make them a little straighter Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:13, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

ok how is this? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:33, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think the "eyelashes" on the females should be at a more horizontal angle--  Night shine   ★  00:43, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded like that? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 00:55, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's better!--  Night shine   ★  00:58, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Add a line at where the muzzle begins, like on the leader images. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  23:02, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Their backs should not be one equal slope, there should a small bump where the shoulder is after going down a little, then it down in the slope of the rest of thier back. You can look at sitting cat pictures for examples, such as this one: Link I know he's facing a different direction, but it's the same basic idea. Bramble -sama  02:14, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble's right about their backs. But also, could you upload the changes you made onto all of the blanks? It's getting kind of confusing-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:12, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Here is an example I made. Could you please add the muzzle line like I did? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:47, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

These are really good but it's been 10 days. Please work on them. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 00:34, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah sorry my computer had a virus and it took forever to get it taken care of  <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 02:27, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded i replaced the orginal one with the latest version of them<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lightblue; border:2px dotted; -moz-border-darkblue: 1em; color:darkblue;">AkikoTokamo ~kyuu 02:40, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

The elbows on the shorthaired ones look kinda weird. Make them like the ones on the longhaired blanks-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:47, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge (KP) - For Approval
nobody has him up plus i really wanted to do him so please don't decline this! Echopaw 15:09, January

16, 2010 (UTC)

He looks nothing like his picture in Cats of the Clans.Look at that for a refrence.And theres no need for ear pink on the farthest ear.Also,it's to dark and looks more like a acute triangle,amke it alittle smaller and blur it. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 15:16, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter whether you really wanted to do him or not, Shruggy (Brambleclaw14) has him on his current projects. I am going to decline this, sorry. People 'reserve characters because they really want to do them, and if you want to put characters up either add them to your own list before anyone else does, or discuss it with the person who has it reserved before you post. Declined for said reasons.
 * Note: nobody has him up because the blanks have been approved not 5 minutes ago.

Also - approval has an 'a' not an 'e' ;) Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  15:32, January 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sandy Echopaw can do him. the thing I use for making then isn't working (nothing is working :[ ) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:48, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, back up for approval. Sorry to hear that Shruggy. Echo - just remember for next time Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  15:55, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the patches looks odd to me, or is it supposed to be like that?-- Moss I'm Up There!  19:03, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty good, but i think it could use some more shading, and also, blur the patches a lot. The edges look rough now. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 19:40, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, that's not exactly fair. I reserved him, and I thought nobody can take your reservation. Plus: I did him earlier, see? I thought I did a good job too. :( Swiftpelt 19:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

When you reserved him Brambleclaw14 had him first.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw's reservation wasn't on there before the new Character thing. When I put it up there, nobody had it. Oh well.... :'( Swiftpelt How's the prey running? 19:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Shruggy definitely had him first because I checked when I removed him from your current projects. Sorry Swiftpelt. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  20:57, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Echopaw,he looks nothing like his image in cats of the clans.In it,he's a black cat with small white spots on various places.Look in that book for a refrence once again. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt: Give him/her a chance - it's only been a couple of hours; you can't expect everyone to edit an image that quickly. Ѕд ₦₫  y ♪  22:30, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I know,but still.For some reason I get paranoid on things like this.I want them to be as accurate as possible.Also,his eyes are supposed to be amber. ''' ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ    Have a happy Valentineღ |undefined 22 22:33, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

thanks sandy and im a she! Echopaw 22:42, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and Cats of the Clans it terribly inaccurate in some images. I never pictured Smudge like he was portrayed in that book. But our chararts don't really have to look like their images in Cats of the Clans. Take Heathertail for example. She looks nothing like she's supposed to in Cats of the clans, she's orange with purply eyes. But her charart was done beautifully, the way she was described in the book. So, I don't think that should be an issue -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:51, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Smudge's base color is black. I guess you can replace the white with black, and the black with white.-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well wait a minute, we don't know that. There are so many mistakes in that book that we can't be sure. I think it's fine if we just keep it white with black patches.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:27, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think we need to go on written evidence as we cannot be sure the pictures are entirely correct seeing as they were an artist's own impression of the characters and not Erin Hunter's own work. As long as the image fits the book descriptions we have of him, I think it'll be okay Ѕд  ₦₫  y ♪  11:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, as for the image. The eyes do need to be amber, as that's been cited from the book. The ear pink looks too purple, make it more reddish like this -- Bone -- Blur the patches more, and add some more shading to the head -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED sorry well here he is Echopaw 22:51, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The patches and earpink need to be blurred more.-- Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED here is he any better? Echopaw 14:57, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Right now it looks like there's lineart around the patches, it needs to be blended between the black and white to be a gray-ish color. For examples, look at Patchpelt, Mousewhisker, Toadstep, Crowfrost, Cloudspots, Smoky, Floss, Fritz, or Splash. --  Icy -chan   ★  15:56, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 16:35, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

The patches still need to be blurred a lot, and so does the ear pink. Also, there needs to be ear pink on his right ear also -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:51, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

No NIght, that ear is turned away from us. Blur the shading on his head. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be a lot smaller, so it fits inside the ear. Blur as well, like Night says, on all the shading. Bramble -sama  02:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded Echopaw 21:01, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is still purple. Look at Splash to get the right color, and then really blur it. Also, the shading on his head still needs to be blurred a lot. -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:29, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is this any better! Echopaw 23:26, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Swiftpelt i took down your smudge cause it was really confusing me! Echopaw 00:39, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks very purple to me, and the shading needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Echopaw 13:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a little more. Also lighten the shading on his head. The ear pink looks very purple. Perhaps make it like Whitestorm. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:16, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the ear looks really purple. Does anyone else agree? Maybe you should try and change the colour completely? You could also make the pink (purple) ear smaller? Fawnstorm 19:32, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Snowdrop(KP)-for approval
there's snowdrop! XD I'm pretty proud of this image so....comments?-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 23:37, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

You spelled Snowdrop wrong, but overall, pretty good! The only thing is I have to say is..nothing! I'm speechless! I love the shading!-- Quail! <font color="Black">Jack in the Box 23:46, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! But blur that little part of shading that's right on top of her muzzle -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:17, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded -- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 02:26, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks a little weird on the left of her back and the top of her shoulder. Maybe blur it some more.  Night shine   ★  03:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The right ear (our right) shouldn't have ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  21:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Well acually, the right ear should have ear pink. Because the cat is facing us. The fronts of both ears are facing us also. I think the ear pink looks fine -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:43, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

I guess that makes sense. Never mind, then:) -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  17:54, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I just checked the For Approval section for the kittypet blanks, and Quietstep said that the right ear (our right) is turned away from us, so it shouldn't have ear pink. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  23:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

But, that kinda doesn't make sense. The ear doesn't look as if it's turned at all. It's facing straight at us. Maybe we should ask Quiet?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:20, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

See the curve in the blanks right ear (our right)? Does it appear in the left? Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:38, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

er...I guess I'll let you decide on that first and I'll fix the shading now -Bracken-(not signed in)

any bstter?-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 02:15, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. But there is a little part right uner her collar tag that looks strange to me. It's solid gray. Make it white, and just darken the shading in that part-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:19, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in a week, please reupload soon or this will be declined-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:07, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Cedarpaw (A) - For Approval


This is my first charart so it's not that good. ^^; How can I improve it? Lotusfire 17:08, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

This is a really good charart for your first one,but,which ever Cinderpaw this is,they both have a apprentice charart.Im sorry. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 17:39, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

FirePelt is right. Perhaps take the pixels from the eye and change the eye colour to amber and this can be Cedarheart's app pic? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:53, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, good idea Sandy :) Try that Lotus! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:01, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree.But s/he might have to change the pelt color,seeing as it is darker than the elder and warrior image. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  Valentineღ 22 20:13, January 17, 2010 (UTC) 

Nothing the dodge tool cant fix. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:21, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, the dodge tool is like the shading tool, except it lightens. It looks like a little microphone. Get a large brush size and just run over the image a few times, and erase a few of the pixels of the eye to make it look masculine. That's about it. -- Bramble -sama  02:04, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I changed it, it might not be blurred enough, but how is it? Lotusfire 03:20, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

It still needs to be lightened a bit. Look at Cedarheart's elder and warrior images to get an idea of how light it should be - Cedarheart -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:23, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's lighter now, I'm still a compy art noob. >.<;;; Lotusfire 03:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

The colour looks fine to me now. Just blend the shading and highlights Lotus. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  11:57, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I blurred more. Lotusfire 01:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's kind of hard to see the ear pink. Maybe make it more of a reddish color, like his elder image. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:44, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lionheart (D) for approval
(All but the tail and far leg are made by Dawnfeather) His tail turned out weird -- Icecloud33  02:23, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is over the image limit. Please take this down. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 02:25, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I thought the limit was 35 this is image 34 so ? Icecloud33  02:26, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

She has a point but i thought he was allready done as a deputy Echopaw 02:27, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Bluestar had him up but she withdrew him i think Icecloud33  02:29, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure his other deputy image was withdrawn/declined? And yeah, it's only image 34, so it should be okay. Not much I can see wrong with this image :) Except, add shading on his other front paw (the one that's raised, and in the back of the other) and maybe add a highlight on his tail? <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 02:30, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

NVM. Thought this was 35. For the image, make the ear pink more pink not purple. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 02:31, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Um, Reuploaded and the ear pink is from the warrior image Icecloud33  02:35, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Why is he sitting on his tail? Try fixing that.--  Night shine   ★  03:35, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

And also his eyes should be green. This looks like a copy of the warrior image wit the tail redone.--  Night shine   ★  03:37, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Now that Nightshine mentioned it, it's not the right deputy blank. There's too much of his back leg showing, it should be covered by his tail. How did you get the tail like that? o3o <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 11:48, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure i will try fixing it Icecloud33  12:44, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? Icecloud33  13:00, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

You need to make his eyes green-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:46, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

His warrior image has amber eyes. Shoudn't we go for consistency Seastar  19:57, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

It does have green eyes (warrior image) anyway Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Lime;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Angelstorm Purr all the way! :) 20:15, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

When you copy-and-pasted, the lineart was off...try erasing the lineart that should be there (close to the ear and the head). --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:51, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

White pixle on chest,the lineart it weird nest to head and head,looks like he is sitting on his tail. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  FirePelt(L)_Sunny.png 22 22:47, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

His tail is fine. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:50, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Their is extra line art on places. Thinin it, and it should be good. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 18:01, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Lime;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Angelstorm Purr all the way! :) 01:08, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on the tail are really bothering me. Could you try and make them look, more irregular, instead of just perfect triangles?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:15, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Better? we accidentaly uploaded this on Spottedsky's account <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Lime;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Angelstorm Purr all the way! :) 01:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that Icy I forgot to log out Seastar  01:30, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but darken them. I can't really se them all that well. And add one to the tip of the tail Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 17:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Lime;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Angelstorm Purr all the way! :) 00:05, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yep :) But darken the shading on the tail, and don't forget to blur it Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:30, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

I darkened the shading <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Salmon; background:Lime;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Blue;">Angelstorm Purr all the way! :) 00:35, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Just so you know, this is not Bluestars image. I just did the same things that she did. Angel Paw  21:37, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

There's a stripe on his tail that's split in half. It's right by the stripe on the tail tip. Just reconnect it, and then perhaps dodge the tail more? It looks a bit flat compared to the rest of the body-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:46, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Angel Paw  20:52, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yep :) Darken the shading where the tail connects to the body, and I think this will be ready-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:35, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Angel Paw  22:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Timberfur (W) - For Approval
The section says it all. Blacky OMG 2010 IS ON IT'S WAY! 02:34, January 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Add a lot more shading, and blur it, also blur his ear pink. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 02:35, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Btw nice sig Insane. :) Blacky OMG 2010 IS ON IT'S WAY! 02:43, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to his chest, and blur it as much as you can-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded. Blacky OMG 2010 IS ON IT'S WAY! 16:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

better, just add shading under his chin, and round out the shading on his haunch, it's sorta oddly shaped. Also make his ear pink a little bigger. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:31, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blacktail <font color="#008000">Talk! 00:25, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shadin a lot. And make the ear pink more of a reddish-pink color-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:43, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Snowfur (K) for approval
First charart is this okay Seastar  19:59, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't see any shading. Look at some apprentice tutorials to learn how to shade a white cat-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:59, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfall, there is shading. I've learned a trick, when I look at my laptop from different angles determines whether you can see the shading on a white cat or not...Spottedsky, thicken and darken the shading and this should be good. This is awesome for your first try! --  Icy -chan   ☆  02:18, January 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * In Bluestar's Prophecy its mention that her ears are gray.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  19:10, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Must have been a typo, because they're blue. It says right here- ''"Snowkit!" Bluekit breathed. "What is it?" Snowkit blinked open her eyes. They were blue.''. Bluestar's prophecy, pg 10. And, after Whitestorm was born Bluestar mentioned countless times of how much Whitestorm's blue eyes reminded her of Snowfur's eyes. And on top of that, her apprentice, warrior, and queen images have blue eyes.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:13, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

You must have misread ears for eyes. I think they are supposed to be gray tiped. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 22:17, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that's right. Spottedsky, make her ear tips gray. Look at one of her approved character pixles if you have trouble-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:14, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Better Seastar  01:17, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Umm, what do you mean by that?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:19, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Huh changes aren't showing. Try it again, then upload. If not you'll have to change the file name. So add the gray ear tips and blur the shading more. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? they are showing up now Seastar  01:28, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Can you maybe darken the shading a tad? I know it's there, but it would be easier to run over the burn tool once or twice, then blur. Swifty How's the prey running?

I already darkened the shading once should it still be darker? Seastar 00:55, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

No, I think the shading is fine :) But, the ear pink looks almost purple. Make it more, reddish-pink. And the gray on her ears needs to be at the tip of the ears. Right now, the whole ear is gray. Put it more on the tip, and darken it-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:42, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Charm Paw  20:13, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry forgot ear tips again better? Charm Paw  20:19, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is better, but the gray on the tips of her ears needs to be darkened more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:48, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Better? Charm Paw  20:57, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Blur the earpink a tiny bit more. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:11, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? Charm Paw  21:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes but I forgot to mention that you need to blur the shading. Sorry. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:19, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Its okay Better? Charm Paw  21:23, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ice- For Approval
Okay, he's back up! Constructments? -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 00:33, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great. Just put a little shading on the ear, and blur the ear pink just a touch. -- Bramble -sama  01:10, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

It might not be necessary, but I think a couple highlights on his shoulder and haunch would make the shading look a little more dramatic :) Also, blur the ear pink. <font color="#000066">☛ <font color="#006699">ⓘⓝⓢⓐⓝⓔⓤⓛⓐⓡ <font color="#000066">☚ 01:33, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? -- Sweetheart Happy Valentine's Day! 15:24, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a touch and this should be ready. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 17:56, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Fuzzypelt(W) - For Approval


Hmm.. what was I gonna say on this pic... oh yes; ultimate fail. =) Please, constructments? -- Bramble -sama  01:09, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe put one more tuft, right before his ear. No other comments then that. Maplefern Hi everyone! 01:11, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble three words: '''not ultimate fail. '''I agree with Maple, other than that I see nothing else. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:14, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I've been waiting to see this one for a long time. Ice is right: so not ultimate fail. He's really good =) The bit behind his ear looks too flat though, as Maple said. ∑✐ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  13:27, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm.. if you say so. =) The tuft has been added right in front of the ear. -- Bramble -sama  22:12, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, this is awesome Bramble! :D But why not add another tuft of fur below his right ear? I think it would look better that way. Swifty How's the prey running?

Stoneteller - For Approval
Here he is again.  Night shine   ★  03:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good! But wouldn't he have mudstreaks? I don't remember whether it said in the book or not-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not sure. It said in Outcast that he hardly ever leaves the cave. Would he need mud streaks?--  Night shine   ★  03:12, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good point. Let me check in Moonrise real quick... -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:25, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, it says right here- ''Then he spotted Crag again, emerging from the far passage and padding across the caave floor toward the tight group of forest cats. He was followed by another cat, long-bodied and skinny as a WindClan warrior. So much mud plastered his fur that Stormfur couldn't make out what color it was underneath, but his eyes were a deep glowing green, and a few white hairs around his muzzle betrayed the fact that he was older than the cats they had seen so far.'' That's from Moonrise, pg 113. So, according to this, he does have mud on him-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:29, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I added mud streaks. I don't think they look that great though--  Night shine   ★  03:54, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make them thicker and Darken them. Maplefern Hi everyone! 11:21, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with thickening them but i think the color is fine. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 15:17, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I thickened and darkened them a bit.--  Night shine   ★  04:51, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more of a reddish color. Also blur the highlight (?) around his muzzle. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:24, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Changed ear pink. I think the muzzle is fine though.--  Night shine   ★  20:36, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add a mud streak to his head. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  00:05, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Added mud streaks to head.--  Night shine   ★  01:15, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Fuzz (KP) - For approval
Evanphoto 12:36, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, thicken the shading all around, and it looks like there's a black blob on the edge of the collar tag....? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  13:11, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 13:26, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading then blur it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:13, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Evanphoto 01:45, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a reddish color  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:44, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Evanphoto 12:46, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Any comments? Evanphoto 22:51, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on his back, and the ear pink still looks a little bit purplish (Is that a word?) -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:39, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? Evanphoto 12:15, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on his back still needs to be just a smidge bigger. But the ear pink is much better :)-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Pinepaw--For Approval
Wow, this, I think is my third apprentice. Or my Fourth. Actually, it's my fifth. I've done way to many apprentices; over have my images are apprentices. I could ramble on and on....but I won't. So, Comments?

Whoops forgot earpink.... Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:45, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good, just blur all the shading more, and make the earpink a little brighter and less purple-y. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  13:08, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 13:16, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 01:25, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and make the ear pink smaller. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 01:28, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 12:45, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 12:52, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else? Maplefern Hi everyone! 21:53, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on both of the legs farthest from us-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:37, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? Maplefern Hi everyone! 23:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Rose(KP)- For Approval
Well I tried to do her but she needs alot of work.Echoheart 14:00, January 24, 2010 (UTC)



Didn't I have her reserved, or did Echo have her first? Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  15:23, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mouse: you have Mistyfoot and Whitetail? Echoheart has Rose from what I can see ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:27, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

face palm* I had her reserved, but then I edited hger out. *another face palm* Møųş  ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  15:42, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, for the image Echoheart: The shading seems to be lighter than the pelt colour... you need to use the burn tool to shade. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  16:20, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I personally think that she still needs alot of work.Echoheart 17:28, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too purplish, and she looks nothing like her sister, Lily. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  18:59, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Two cats wouldn't look exactly the same. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:02, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too purplish. Also, the shading is still lighter than the pelt and needs blending ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:05, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but her fur looks almost... greenish? Maybe make it more cream colored? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  19:21, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I thought Nightfall had reseved this? Quail! <font color="Maroon">People+Money+Time+Care=Haiti Rebuilt.00:27, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I reserved it the day the kittypet blanks were approved. But I decided that I wanted somebody else to be able to do Rose, cuz in my opinion, doing Lily was fun. But I only had her reserved for a day or two. But Insaneular is right about her fur, it looks very green on my computer-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:10, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''To me, she looks ALOT better than before. Anything else?Echoheart 11:23, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

She looks better but there are bits of color outside of the lineart and places where the brown doesn't touch the lineart. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:11, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks very sudden in places. Blur it. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  00:06, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else?Echoheart 11:30, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

The brown still isnt touching the line art in some places. mostly the tail and front leg. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 16:19, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Do I need anything else?--Echoheart 12:10, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a lot more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:50, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Bella (KP) - For Approval
Constructments? ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  15:24, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe darken the stripes a little bit, and then this should be good. --  Icy -chan   ☆  17:05, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:30, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:17, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry for taking so long ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:52, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval? --  Icy -chan   ☆  00:32, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Purdy (Lo) - For Approval
*gulps* This was soo hard to copy Quiet's work! *dies* Oh well, I can improve it. Constructments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 15:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add some stripes down the legs. Maplefern Hi everyone! 16:15, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's really nice! Maybe add more shading, blur the tabby marks a little bit and do what Maple said. Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:15, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Are the changes showing? I blurred the tabby marks, added shading (oh yes I forgot to) and I added some tabby marks down the legs. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 02:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, now that there's shading, it needs to be darkened, and the two legs in the back (his left legs) need to be darker than the front two (his right legs), and also add a few more stripes to his left legs. Otherwise, this looks really good! --  Icy -chan   ☆  03:11, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is this better? Are the changes showing? And thanks everyone. I thought this one was going to be a total fail. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 22:23, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the changes are showing up, and if they are then add more stripes to his legs-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:32, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added more stripes to the legs. No Night the changes are showing. How can I tell? I have super vision. ;) ♥Ice♥  ♥storm♥  00:05, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

His shoulder looks kinda bare. Add more stripes. Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:09, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I see stripes on his shoulder. Or am I not looking at the shoulder? ^_^ ♥Ice♥  ♥storm♥  00:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The lower half, just around where it connects to the leg. Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:18, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I see stripes in places and the shoulders. Is that the image or is it just meh? XD ♥Ice♥  ♥storm♥  00:27, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think they mean right where the front leg connects to the body, rather than the higher shoulder area near his spine. Does that help? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  00:29, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think they mean his chest ;)-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wow, I'm more than an idiot than I thought I would be. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  23:24, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hattie (KP) - For Approval
*stares* My worst image ever by far...comments and suggestions? (Yesh! Number 35! I'm not over the limit! Yay...) --  Icy -chan   ☆  17:02, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's not worse!! I actually love it! All I see (but might no be necessary-it's just a comment) maybe make teh ear and nose a little more pinkish. Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:09, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the highlight did its job! Just dark the nose pink a bit, as Hidden said. Maplefern Hi everyone! 17:11, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. *sighs in relief* Okay, I'm glad it wasn't as horrible as I thought. ;) --  Icy -chan   ☆  18:41, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the nose pink the same color as the earpink. This is really good! Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:43, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made it more of a reddish-brown color, but if I made it the same color as the ear pink then it would be way too dark, so I chose the ear pink color with the colorpicker tool and then made it a lighter color of the colors in that range. (If any of that actually made sense then yay. :P) The point being: does it look any better? --  Icy -chan   ☆  19:06, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yup =) Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:08, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look odd, not like tabby stripes. I'm not sure would you could do about it, though, maybe just tinker with them? Dark hallows 18:56, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but it looks like the stripes in the highlighted area look more blurred than in the shaded area. But this is wonderful, way better than how mine would look! Moss I'm Up There!  20:46, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

...I'm not exactly sure what to do, could you maybe try and explain it a little bit more? --  Icy -chan   ☆  22:27, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby stripes on the back where the highlights are the brightest are more blurred than the ones, oh, let's say on the haunch and such. They need to be blurred evenly. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  00:07, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. *cries in horror* Ah~ I ended up drawing the tabby stripes again with the burn tool...and this now officially looks horrible! Let me know what I can do to fix this horrible thing. --  Icy -chan   ☆  22:56, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Gorsetail(W)- For Approval


Beautiful! Just make the ear pink and add a pupil to the eyes. Hidden -Valentine ღ  18:43, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is great =) It doesn't look anything like her queen version though... ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  18:47, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

How's this?

I redid it. *post below* Featherblaze 18:58, January 24, 2010 (UTC)Featherblaze

Reopload an image over the same name and don't make a new section each time as this is over the limit. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:00, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, this is right on the limit, as one of the sections is a disscusion. Swifty How's the prey running?

I just merged the two sections and archived the discussion. The patches need to be more defined. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:38, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Her queen image is short-haired. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  20:20, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink is too bright. Would she need an alternate image since she is mentioned as a tom in TFA or just keep her a she-cat? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 18:01, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

hmmm She had kits for StarClan's sake! Why can't the Erins just remember that? I don't think an alternative version is appropriate unless her appearance also changes because changing the gender is just one pixel in the eye... nobody looking at her pae will really notice so we can just say in her article that she was referred to as male in TFA. That's PC though ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  18:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

But what Mousetalon pointed out is right. Her queen image is short-haired Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 18:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Sandy on the alternate version thing, but as for the actual image, I think the patches need to be more solid, and lighter, so it looks more like her queen image. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Socks (Lo) For Approval
Here's Socks! I'm still not very fond of him, but I did feel a little sorry for them when they were abandoned by their twolegs. But it did teach them a lesson, however, if I had been Scourge, I would have forgiven them and helped them. Anyway, how is he?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:32, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'd lighten the eye colour a touch. Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:35, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Better? I had to change the file name because the changes weren't showing up. Also, the highlights were kinda bugging me so I darkened them a smidge-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:48, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a touch. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 12:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I blurred it as much as I can. *stabs pixlr*-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:05, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lol. That's better. But maybe make the highlights more visable? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 22:03, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I'am horrible at highlighting black cats. I he better?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:38, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:MidnightBlue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:fushia;">Icestorm Hi There! 13:12, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Since I'm not a senior warrior any more someone needs to approve this because it's great. Good job! Minn owc law 01:27, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Rock - For Approval
Not much to say about this one... Constructments? -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  20:09, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! I tried making one of Rock before. Darken the ear pink a bit--  Night shine   ★  20:23, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I had been thinking, if he should really be classified as a healer, seeing as how he didn't lead or serve as medicine cat to the ancients, just did the sharpclaw tests, but image-wise, it's really the only thing he could be classified as (And it's not my place to decide anyway so just ignore my ramblings... ehehe). Anyways, I might be wrong on this, but he would still have pupils even though he's blind, right? Because if he went blind just from spending time in the darkness, he wouldn't just... lose his pupils, would he? As I said, I'm not sure, but I would have thought he'd still have them. Other than that the image is awesome though! <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:25, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think he would have a pupil too. Maybe make it gray to show that he's blind. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

If you want to see my picture of Rock go here. --  Night shine   ★  20:40, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Aksully most blind peaple/animal have a pupil like a normal person/animal so he should have a normal eye just like Jayfeather. Right? Echopaw 21:03, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Darkened the ear pink and added pupils. I always imagined Rock without them, so I guess erasing the pupils was a bit of an accident ^ ^; And Insane, Rock was was listed as a Healer on his charcat template, so I just made him one. Though I do agree that he didn't really do any Healer stuff at all. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  21:21, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Rock! (Glomps) For the image, smooth out the tail lineart. Also, if you can, add some wrinkles; hairless cats have many wrinkles. Finally, make his skin color more like this. It's a Sphynx cat (Also called hairless cat). (Ignore the darker patches.) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  22:47, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Ah, Sphynx cats, the ETs of the cat worldXD Anyway, I fixed the tail, added wrinkles, and changed the color. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  20:19, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Lol! It looks great now. Just one thing (which I should have mentioned above, but oh well). Just add some shading beside each wrinkle line to show that they curve in there. Do that and then he should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:11, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Added the shading. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  22:31, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Comments before approval? Dark hallows 23:10, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is awesome! I got kind of freaked out when I saw it at first. Maybe you should add a few tiny wrinkles to the tail.--  Night shine   ★  00:26, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks^ ^ I added the wrinkles. -- Hд₩ ₭₮д  £O₦  22:03, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

So ugly, but cute too xD. CBA?(again) Dark hallows 00:40, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

If this weren't Rock I would say it was ugly, but it is so great job! Minn owc law 01:25, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sasha(KP)-For approval


Im not sure about this one, it probably fails. Anyways, comments?(it's Firepelt,I have to fix my siggy because its messed up.

Not bad, just darken and blur the shading, and also, her eyes looks a bit neon blue to me, make them more neutral, like Heathertail's maybe? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:47, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Firepelt, while you fix your siggie, can you at least put something like Firepelt so that it looks like this: Firepelt and has the time shown, that way there's a link to your user page and from there we can get to your talk page. For the image itself, Insane covered almost all of it, but make the ear pink more of a reddish color, like on Rippletail's or Mossypaw. --  Icy -chan   ☆  21:26, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

I had gotten her Ear pink directly from her rouge image, but i'll make it more of a red color. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  21:15, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  21:15, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good Fire! But bur the shading more. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  21:11, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.Thank you Ice. Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  00:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Something is missing... Why not get the Dodge tool and run it over the hind leg and shoulder once or twice? Maybe the head needs a good Dodging too. After that, It will look so much livelier! Swifty How's the prey running?

Dodge her? Why? I got her color directly from her rouge image though. Why dodge? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  02:06, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have to admit, Im not the best as dodging. Really! Im not. truth is, im horrible. I dont think i'll be able to do that. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  02:16, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading. Maplefern Hi everyone! 02:18, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I could Dodge it for you, if you'd like. Swifty How's the prey running?

Reuploaded.I blurred the shading, you can try to dodge it you you'd like, Swifty, then post it on my talk page to see if i'll use it instead.Anything else? ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  16:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and maybe add a highlight if you want. This is great other wise. Minn owc law 01:23, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Echosong (KP) - For Approval
Echo!! One of my favs characters! Well this is my fail at doing these kind of tabby marks...horrible!? Comments? Critics? Hidden -Valentine ღ  17:43, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! But some of the stripes don't connect with the lineart, mostly on her tail and back-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:18, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well because her other charart doesn't show her back I put teh tabby markings like this because i tried making them shorter but it looked really ugly and on teh tail well I can fix it. Hidden -Valentine ღ  20:27, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is awesome! But I think her eyes look darker on her medicine cat image. What does everyone else think? Mistyheart 17:32, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

They do but it's probably because the eye is smaller on her med cat image. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 17:42, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

The eye on teh other pixel is darker but if I try making the eyes darker it looks horrible and not even real.But if you want I can change the color. Hidden -Valentine ღ  18:28, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, I can't really see it. ♥Ice♥ ♥storm♥  22:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-darken shading. Hidden -Valentine ღ  23:10, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't she have deep green eyes? these look like yellow-green eyes Angel  Paw  00:45, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnpelt (Ki) - For Approval
This is my first charart! Is it alright? Mistyheart 19:57, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is awsome Misty(mind if I call yoi that?)! I see nothing wrong. Hidden -Valentine ღ  20:13, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good Mistyheart! But blur all of her shading more -- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:17, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Is it better? (Btw, yeh, you can call me Misty, I like it!)

The eyes look a bit strange, could you make them look like the ones here? Once you fix that it should be ready, this looks really good for your first image! (A lot better than my first image. :P)--  Icy -chan   ☆  22:44, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

I moved Dawnpelt. Make sure that when you re-upload her, she's not in the section heading. As for the image, blur the ear pink some. And good job, you should be glad you didn't see my first image. *shudders* ♥Mouse♥  ♥Heart♥  23:35, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hey guys! I blurred the ear pink. I also changed the eyes - do they look okay now? Mistyheart 16:26, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hey! Looks amazing! Did you use the dodge tool? Fawnstorm 17:07, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeh, I used dodge :) Is there anything else I need to work on / edit / improve? Mistyheart 17:24, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see anything that needs improving! I hope everyone sees the picture of Tawnystar. She's amazing! I tryed to load up applestar but I didn't know who to. Can you leave a message on my talk page thing? Fawnstorm 17:28, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Fawnstorm! What does everyone else think? Do you think there is anything else I need to work on / edit / improve? Mistyheart 18:58, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is great Mistyheart =) Just make the ear pink smaller ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  19:25, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Skywatcher (Lo) - For Approval
I know it's section 37 but there are 2 join requests so it's still under the limit. Anywho, my first loner, comments, contructments? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  20:57, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is really beautiful!! All I see is maybe blur the shading a little more and blur the ear pink. Hidden -Valentine ღ  21:00, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! I always pictured him as a super old cat with a lighter gray muzzle but this is awesome! I agree with Hiddensun to blur the shading more.--  Night shine   ★  00:28, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded, blurred shading and ear pink more; does it look better? Also, was it a specific area of shading that I needed to blur more, or, is it good now...? <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  02:10, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, blur the shading on the back of the haunch more--  Night shine   ★  03:34, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ditto above, and also, maybe add a highlight to the top of the head, or the muzzle? You don't have to if you don't want to. Moss I'm Up There!  21:33, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shadding by one.-- Minn owc law 01:20, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Jayfeather (Ki)- For Approval
This is Jaykit! What do you think? It's my first Charart and I think it went quite well! I'd. like to hear suggestions for improvement! Fawnstorm 19:29, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Not bad. His base pelt color looks a bit purpleish to me though. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:50, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add some shading, blur the ear pink, and add some stripes. And..... Isn't Jayfeather LONGHAIRED? O.o Swifty How's the prey running?

Yep Jayfeather is Longhaired Angel  Paw  01:14, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll work on it! 92.43.64.86 10:07, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the stripes really dark so that they seem to fade as he gets older! what do you think? He's also now longhaired!

This is a really really good first charart! The only thing I can think that needs improving is maybe use the dodge tool on his face and tail tip, and possibly edit the left stripe stripe on his chest so it is all one colour and not patchy, if you see what I mean. Brilliant! :P 86.182.38.30 17:47, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice! I'll work on it!

Reuploaded I did what you suggested on the stripe and I agree, I probaly should have do that more carefully! If you noticed I darkened the stripes completely! Hope this is OK now? I am still open for suggestions on how to improve him!!!Fawnstorm 18:48, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Better but the stripes are too dark. Try getting the color from one of his approved images. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 19:51, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, make the stripes much thinner. See:. Also, make the ear pink slightly more of a reddish colour and blend it. Then thin the shading a little bit as it looks right now as if there is just a paler patch in the middle. Look at for shading thickness. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  20:06, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oscar- For Approval
I've been waiting to post this and Sneezekit just got approved. comments? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:49, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

This is awsome! But try adding some shading to the base of the tail (Or the butt :D) and blur the ear pink some more-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:51, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

The tag doesn't seem right. There's a line running from the bottom of it to the fur. I don't know if it's the lineart or not. Birchy 20:55, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

It's a part of the lineart. I wasn't sure if I should color it or if that line was a mistake. Which do you think? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:58, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you should erase it. It just looks unusal. Oh, there's a blob of black on it too. Birchy 21:00, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Both mistakes, but for some reason it's been happening on several people's kittypets. You should erase them though. They're not meant to be there (I'm 99% sure) <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  21:01, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks everybody. Blurred earpink and removed black spots. Is this what you meant by add shading to the base of the tail Night? Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:26, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that's better :) Add some shading to that tiny bottom part of the hind leg that's almost hidden. (Do you know which one I mean?)-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:30, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. anymore comments before I reupload. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 21:38, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a touch on the upper half of the hind leg that is shown (do I make sense?) Maplefern Hi everyone! 23:14, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yup. I'll update him tomorrow(mostly because I managed to distract myself with cooking mama) and to allow time for more comments. Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 23:23, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ashshadow I'm a she~cat.Rawr :3 20:39, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! I can't see anything wrong!-- Minn owc law 01:13, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy (Lo)- For Approval
*shudders* My first loner. Go on, tell me how bad it is. Go on, go on. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  23:44, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong about this its really good! Echopaw 23:49, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

The shading under the neck is a bit dark, and the shading could be blurred a touch more. But this isn't bad at all! Maplefern Hi everyone! 23:52, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed with Maple, and also the tail shading is a little dark. Awesome image! Moss I'm Up There!  21:31, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is great other than the things mentioned. Great job!!!!!-- Minn owc law 01:08, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Brackenfur (A)- For approval
Hi, this is Beewing. I've just finished my first charart. I'm not sure if it's bad or good, but do you approve of it?



First things first, I removed the thumbnail, and put in the Full sized image. Also, you did the wrong eye. See the Apprentice tutorials for the right eyes. Swifty How's the prey running?

The line art looks strange. Blur the ear pink some more--  Night shine   ★  01:45, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I know why too Nightshine, she saved it as JPEG. From now on Beewing, try to save it as PNG. Swifty How's the prey running?

Also, this is the 36th image, and the page limit is 35, in the future, please be wary of the page limit. This is quite good for a first Charart, though. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  01:58, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blackclaw at the top is being withdrawn though.--  Night shine   ★  02:03, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

The eye is huge. Save Ashfur's apprentice image, upload it onto your art program and zoom in on the eye. Then copy the eye design from that-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:34, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

There are also eye diagrams on the tutorials. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  03:06, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering..
I know I may sound stupid but.... Would it be a good idea to get new Med. cat blanks? I mean, they look so similar to warrior blanks, yet their jobs are so important, and FAR more different than a Warrior's. I know this is up to Bramble, but I think this isn't such a bad idea. Swifty How's the prey running?

We don't need new medicine cat blanks. The ones we have are perfectly fine, no matter how importent there job is. The deputy's job is importent, but only the tail and foot are different. I know its up to Bramble, but the whole community really kinda has a say. Anyways, we dont need different blanks because they are far different from warriors. My opinion, ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ   02:10, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think the current ones are fine. If we changed them then we would have to change the medicine cat apprentice blanks as well...right?--  Night shine   ★  02:08, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, I never liked the idea at all. It makes no sense to me :/. Dark hallows 02:14, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if we changed them, not only would we also have to change the MCA blanks, but also all the approved MC and MCA images, which by itself makes the idea hard to employ, but even disregarding that I disagree, no offense meant but they are fine and it's easier than making whole new blanks with a whole new position. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  02:19, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think they are fine the way they are. We can't make new chararts for every cat, and that would mean we would have to change the healer blanks too, for they would be "too similar" to the warrior ones. And besides, if they were totally different, that would be strange. They all live together, it makes sense they look alike. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  03:05, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Why would we change the healer ones? And anyways, I was thinking that you could keep the med. cat apprentices the same, because they are well, apprentices. And back when you put up a new leaders blank, didn't you all have to change the leaders? It looks like I lost the debate anyways though.. Swifty How's the prey running?

You haven't necessarily lost the debate Swifty. I think at the moment though our focus needs to be filling in all the images that still need to be done. If when that is done, we feel we want to go back and change the med cat banks then I personally feel that would be a better time to consider it. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  17:38, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Can I at least show an idea, (but Quiet or Sandy should do the actual thing) so that we can retrieve it once all the kittypets and sharpclaws are done? Swifty How's the prey running?

haha, hope you're joking. I don't do blanks. (more like can't) ∑✐+ᖱ =  ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:56, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I mean no offense at all, but I really don't think we need new Medicine cat blanks. I think they're perfect, just the way they are. The healers were basically altered from the leader blanks, but they are both very different. On top of that, we would have to redo all of the medicine cats. We have so many beautiful ones! I don't at all think we should change them, sorry Swifty-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Signatures
I've seen lots of users with a charart in their signature. This is kind of annoying to me. Especially when it is near a charart up for approval. I don't think it should be allowed. What does everyone else think?--  Night shine   ★  03:44, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't necessarily agree with you. You've got a good point, but it's just a siggie. When you say it's near a charart up for approval, do you mean that whoever did the charart would feel bad about it? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:49, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

No, I mean that it confuses me when I see the charart for approval and the one in the siggy--  Night shine   ★  03:52, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I guess that makes sense. But, Mousetalon's, FirePelt's, and Icestorm's are pretty small. It's only Swifty's that seems a little big, but we could ask her to make it smaller Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:56, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I guess. I'll ask her then.--  Night shine   ★  04:01, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Mine is small,and no-one has complained to me about it. Swifty's is alittle large, and for me it's kinda hard to put a message after it.It's not for mine. Anyways, It's the users choice really what they put on there siggy, seeing as it isn't to large or obscene. ღ♥Fire-Heart♥ღ  16:40, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it was bothering you guys? I'm sorry, I'll go make it smaller. Is this better? Swifty How's the prey running?

How do you make a siggy? [im new]

Siggies can't realy be dictated by PCA as anyone is allowed to customise their siggie and the blanks used to make the are permitted for use on WWiki in general, not just PCA. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  21:34, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

As long as the images are kept small, I think they are fine. I don't think the image on mine can be confused with one for approval. ♥Mouse♥ ♥Heart♥  00:39, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ruby (KP)-For approval
I don't have much to say. First kittypet. Everyone seems to be in the mood, and I don't want to be left out :) Moss I'm Up There!  21:27, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, this is good but does she need a kittypet image? Think about it. They were kits when they were kittypets, and these blanks are for full grown cats. We wouldn't use a rogue blank for Tadpole. I think they're good with the images they've got already, the kit blanks but with collars. I don't know, what do the rest of you think?-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:28, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Firetstar has a kittypet image, and nobody said anything about him. Besides, how much time did elaspse during the Rise of Scourge? Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:54, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nightfall, it's true. they were kittypets in the rise of Scourge while he started BloodClan so wouldn't they kittypet images. They would have grown up as Kittypets Angel  Paw  00:59, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, for the image, darken the shading a little bit or add some brighter highlights. Other wise it looks great!-- Minn owc law 01:05, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Can I join?
Hi it's Minnowclaw agian! I have mised this place sooooooo much. Can I join back on agian?<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Red; Background:Green;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Minnowclaw 00:43, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yay, Minnow! I think you are still a warrior... Maplefern Hi everyone! 00:45, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, well when I left I was a senior warrior and I wasn't there so I thought they must have taken me down...<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Red; Background:Green;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Minnowclaw

You are still a warrior on the project page Angel  Paw  00:49, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but I was a senior warrior when I left Angelpaw, (or would you like me to call you Icecloud?) Just a shout out BRAMBLE WHEN YOU SEE THIS: HI BEST PROJECT LEADER EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-- Minn owc law 00:59, January 29, 2010 (UTC)