Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Canon
Hey so I found this page floating around with no project on it, and it seemed more PB oriented than anything so I thought to pop it in here. Ik it's with the category of Role Play Phenomenon, and everything else from there has been deleted, but... couldn't it be revamped? I wanted to pose the question here of whether it should be deleted like the rest of the category, or made a part of PB and revamped/ add new stuff and such. Thoughts?

Yea, I agree with that. It is information for the reader and it should be in PB. 14:55, 4/22/2017 14:55, April 22, 2017 (UTC)ggC1ND3R_STR1P3

Me too. It does contain many PB-related articles. --  17:35, April 29, 2017 (UTC)

I think it should be revamped and made part of PB. 16:14 Sun May 7

It looks like everyone supports the page being revamped. Any other comments? 23:34 Sun May 14

Okay, looks like everyone agrees to revamping it. How should we go about it? I say we keep what's there + add the facts that we now take stuff from Kates blog and Vicky + add cites for the definition of canon from wikipedia, and maybe include a dropdown or some kind of image/graphic/template depicting the series, the canon books, or just something else significant. Just something book related to tie it to PB.

Head's up, I got a nice idea for this, but I'm at work and can't type it up. I'll comment more after my doctor's appointment later. Just letting y'all know to hold off for a little bit so I can chime in.

OKAY a few days late, but sorry, things came up. I think we could revamp the page, but I'm not totally sure what exactly we'd be taking from Kate's blog or Vicky's Facebook pages? Would we take them saying what information is canon and all of that? Because honestly, it wouldn't hurt to at least mention the role play aspect, but mention that this is a place for strict canon information only? Having a definition of what canon is, what counts as a valid canon source, ect, would be an excellent idea. I'm not sure, though, exactly how big you'd want this page to be? We could actually tie it into all projects and just keep it as a general "canonical information" page, or something along those lines... it doesn't have to be just for PB if all projects can benefit from it.

Ah yeah, I meant saying on the page that we take info from Kate's Blog/Vicky's Facebook as canon, and all of that. It'd almost act as a cite guide, even though it isn't really one. I like the idea of tying it into all of the projects, but I also think it should be linked to one project in particular to receive a silver grade. Perhaps that project should be PR instead of PB, though, if we're including more real life aspects than not.

Yes, that's basically what I meant. Although, if we're going to shift this to PR, I would highly suggest having everything ready first, due to PR often being forgotten and too small to get maybe more than a comment or two. A page like this should...really have more than one or two agreeing comments and an actual discussion. Icy is also without a computer for a little while, so I'd suggest also going to poke her once you've decided what to do with it, that way she knows to comment. Does anyone have a rough draft of what they'd want it to look like, or are we going to follow the layout used on other pages?

Poking my head in and mentioning I am still without a laptop so please don't yell at me. But may I be messaged once you all have a good idea of where the conversation is going? I will not be able to check the Wiki as often. 02:35, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah of course we can message you :)^^ My idea for the format was a version of Warriors Books in that we have a blurb up top that says something like 'Canon is what is considered real.. etc. and is determined by x, y, or z' and that we have different sections and sub-sections for each topic. Those topics could be like what cites we take, specifically which wording of cites we take from Vicky's Facebook and Kate's Blog, and then what counts from the books, erin hunter chats, etc. and stuff.

August FA
Thoughts? We have two novellas left, Mistystar's Omen or Spottedleaf's Heart, or we could even do a field guide like Cats of the Clans

I think it would be best to have the older books have the spotlight before the newer ones. After all, Spottedleaf's Heart did just recently come out. Cats of the Clans probably has waited forever. Maybe Cats of the Clans?

I like Cats of the Clans for the FA

I agree that some of the older books should go first since they've been around the longest. I think either SotC, CotC, or The Warriors Guide would be an excellent choice for next month's featured article. Starling  spots  20:51, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Cats of the Clans has my support. 07:45, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

I agree with all the above ^^ Cats of the Clans looks good 12:04 Sun Jul 9

I think Cats of the Clans would be good as well. 13:04, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Comments before vote? 05:17, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Am I late? Cats of the Clans sounds good to me.

Pinestar's Choice/Chapter 3 ~ Silver Nomination
In the first paragraph, I think 'felt' would be 'feels', add a link to camp, and maybe link territory to The Forest Territories?

fixed

CBV? 18:14 Thu Jul 13

enter the clans
Shouldn't Enter the Clans have chapters subpages?? It has cliffnotes, so? *shrugs*

No, I don't think it should have chapter subpages. Enter the Clans is just a combination of SotC and CotC, and the cliffnotes look to be copy-pasted versions of the cliffnotes of those two books. We could maybe link to the Secrets of the Clans and Code of the Clans subpages on the Enter the Clans page, but I don't think it's worth re-creating them. 13:04, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Linking them sounds like a good idea, then. Or maybe just link to the cliffnotes of SotC and CotC?

Tigerclaw's Fury/Chapter 1 - Silver Nomination
The first thing a lot of people do when they join the wiki is join PCA (then, usually, never contribute to it). Why aren't they as interested in the books? :^(

Yeah. . . idk. In your summary, "the next cat the exiled cat asks", it sounds kind of awkward. Maybe change "exiled cat" to tom?

fixed
 * Maybe link 'wounded' or 'wound' in the 1st paragraph to Diseases_and_Injuries?
 * Maybe link 'her lives' to Bluestar? Idk I've never really seen anyone do that before but it's just a thought in case you might want to.
 * "He asks himself how dare Bluestar exile him" I think it would be better if it was "He asks himself how Bluestar dared exile him", if not "He asks himself, "how dare Bluestar exile him"" with quotations around it or something. But I think the first one would be more accurate. If I'm not making any sense I can explain it a bit more. 18:32 Wed Jul 12

fixed I knew there was something weird about the way I phrased that sentence I was just too tired to get good

Comments before vote? 20:55 Fri Jul 14

Hawkwing's Journey/Manga - Silver Nomination

 * Did Echosong die from infection or sickness? On her page it says she died of infection, but it says in the subpage "...Echosong, who died from sickness".. (although idk if there's even a difference) Also, maybe link it to Diseases_and_Injuries or Diseases_and_Injuries?
 * I wouldn't link Clanmates to Category:Clans and Groups since the category doesn't really have much to do with the word 'Clanmates', if it were to be linked to anything I'd say being linked to General Clan Information would be better. (though I don't really think that would be necessary either)
 * In the last paragraph, "Sandynose and his kits arrive back to the group with prey" I've never heard 'arrive back' being used before, only 'come back', so maybe change it. If arrive back is used though then it's fine I'm just not sure if it's actually used since I've never heard that before. 19:11 Wed Jul 12

fixed I hope the way I phrased it sounds a bit better now. Also, for the Clanmates thing, I think I meant to just link the 'Clan' part, but I've been really out of it for the past week so *shrug*

CBV?

Outcast/Chapter 7 ~ Silver Nomination
14:53 Wed Jul 12

CBV?

Outcast/Chapter 8 ~ Silver Nomination
Idk if I would cite Night and Talon with their first appearance when they were unnamed or their second appearance when they were named... Anyone know? 14:53 Wed Jul 12

I'd go with their first appearance.

Comments before vote? 06:31 Sun Jul 16

Pinestar's Choice/Chapter 4 ~ For Approval
Goosefeather is linked twice

fixed

Tallstar's Revenge/Chapter 29 - Silver Nomination
Howdy

Tallstar's Revenge/Manga - Silver Nomination
Credit to those who finished it, I only fixed it up.

The Forgotten Warrior/Chapter 20 - Silver Nomination
Credit to those who did the plot summary. I would say the character list too, but it was all wrong and messed up and missing cats. Credit for the ones that were right, though.