Talk:Crookedstar/Archive 1

Older:

 * Accepted Standard formate not included.
 * Spoiler start and end tags are not used.
 * Text includes non-encyclopedic wordings. Eulalia459678 ( Salaman dastron ) 18:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 22:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Booklists need to be checked-Charcat says he appeared in StarClan in Starlight, but there's no section for Starlight! There is one now, I didn't add it, but it's there. Darkhallows 06:38, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Unknown mate should be removed Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 13:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * History need to be divided by books Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 13:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Current:

 * Needs some quotes
 * Into the Wild needs to be expanded
 * History needs to be completed
 * Work the Old Introduction Stuff into the history properly. Eulalia459678 ( Salaman dastron ) 18:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC) 22:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * References needed
 * Bluestar's Prophecy could be summarized for better flow and clarity.

MATE!~
I FOUND OUT WHO CROOKEDSTAR'S MATE IS! IT WAS BRAMBLEBERRY, THE MEDICENE CAT. I FOUND IT ON A WARRIORS FANSITE! IT ALSO SAID THAT'S WHY SILVERSTREAM WAS SO RELAXED, BREAKING THE WARRIOR CODE TO MATE WITH GRAYSTRIPE!  HA WK FI RE98  19:29, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Did you even read Crookedstar's Promise?! -Mudstone

Fansites often have false information. I bet some fan made that up.--Dragonfrost 00:32, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, many sites come up with rash theories, that have no truth whatsoever. I saw on a fansite that in Fading Echoes Hollyleaf was going to come back, Lionblaze was going to be made leader and they would lock in a battle over good and evil. Clearly, this did not happen. Vikki confirmed that Willowbreeze was Crookedstar's mate, and Silverstream's mother. ~Ultraviolet July 23, 2010

And you can't say that Silverstream was relaxed, breaking the code to be with Graystripe. In Cats of the Clans, it said that Silverstream hated that she loved a ThunderClan cat. And watch it with the caps, please, it looks like you're shouting. :) 76.22.149.69 01:17, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Dragonfrost is right, if it's a fansite, then it's made by fans. Seafang 16:36, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I know that Willowbreeze is Crookedstar's mate but do you think Brambleberry liked him like Spottedleaf liked Firestar?Skyflight 17:16, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Brambleberry was just his friend. They never like liked each other. -Sunclaw.... person thingy WHAT EVER!  

Mate
That's so cool! But are you sure?--Nightfall101 07:13, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

yeah if you find it on the warriors site. I don't know so what site is the bad one with the trees on it? if it's Warriors Site then...:/ Brambleclaw14 Talk 08:16, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

The official warriors website is the one with the false trees--Nightfall101 00:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The trees aren't false! They are just what we thought were the family trees at the beginning of the series.-- *Minn owc law*  22:17, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

The Erins comfirmed it themselves. The trees were done by a fan, not them. --Nightfall101 03:43, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Brambleberry can't have been Silverstream's mother, she died before Silverstream was born. Who is willowbreeze? birdwing 01:54, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Willowbreeze is Crookedstar mate it was revealed by Vicky Holmes

Graypool's sister.

READ THE BOOK! There are so many mistakes that seem really stupid because the completely contradict the actual books, even if it said so on a fansite I've never heard of. Just READ THE BOOK, and it might seem stupid to you to. Willowbreeze has been listed as his mate since before the book even came out, on this website! -Mudstone

To user: Nightfall
Why do you keep undoing my family tree? --Aurorablaze 21:35, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I left a message on your talk page, please read it!--Nightfall101 21:38, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Dont put this on Crookedstar talk please.

To the user who put Blackclaw as Mistyfoot's mate
This was never confirmed, it is just a rumor --Aurorablaze

Shouldn't this be put on Blackclaw's page?! Warriors808 00:14, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

No, it's unconfirmed. We don't ever post anything unconfirmed as if it were true. It's fun to make guesses, but Wiki sites are about facts. We must honor these rules here, even if we don't like them. 64.53.242.170 20:24, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Lilystem crookedstar's mother?
okay so Fallowtail is a light brown she-cat and had 2 gray kits while Lilystem is crookedstar and Oakheart 2 brown toms, mother is it possible that fallowtail is actually oakheart and crookedstar's mother and Lilystem is actually Graypool and willowbreeze's mother? Crookedstar and Oakheart's mother is Rainflower.

I'd go with what it says in the book. The father of the kits is unknown, so it's possible they inherited thier colors from thier fathers or grandparents.

READ THE BOOK! Reedfeather, a WindClan tom, is Graypool and Willowbreeze's father, whereas Shellheart, the former RiverClan deputy, is Crookedstar and Oakheart's father. -Mudstone

I think Erin Hunter confirmed that Shellheart was Crookedstar's and Oakheart's father. Battles of the Clans gives the identity of Fallowtail's mate (whose name and position currently escape me).

Reedfeather. Former WindClan deputy.

In the browse inside for Crookedstar's Promise, it is revealed his birth mother is Rainflower. Should we update that? I noticed we've updated the part about his kit-name being Stormkit, so I see nothing wrong with changing this. I wouldn't say I'm superstitious. I'm only a little stitious. 22:08, June 19, 2011 (UTC)Jackelface

I say we should. After all, it's in the allegiances. (I still say the spoiler policy is stupid: if we can't use anything but the allegiances, what's the point of the browse inside?) -- 22:14, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Kit Chararts
Should there be two kit chararts: One for when he was a kit with a normal jaw, and one where he's a kit with a twisted jaw? Or would that be too much work?Yoshimisasha 13:37, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

This is not the place for this question. For charart questions, take it up with PCA 23:51, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Twisted jaw
Was it ever revealed how he got a twisted jaw? - 17:42, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it mentions in Cats of the Clans that he was playing on sunningrocks as a kit, fell off, and broke it. Emberstarfireclan 12:40, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ouch =/ - Ginger  tail The Luck Of The Irish...  20:18, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

ikr? Emberstarfireclan 16:10, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

It said in CP that he wasn't exactly playing - he actually fell into the river and hit the rock, breaking his jaw.

~PJFunnyBunny~

Goosefeather scared him and he fell back, hit the rock, and broke his jaw. Seafang 19:18, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

When i posted that, Crookedstar's Promise had not come out yet. That was the reason as fans knew it.Emberstarfireclan 12:31, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, Stormkit and Oakkit saw Goosefeather on the shore and thought he was an intruder, so they went to chase him off. Goosefeather started to chase them and, while running for their lives, Crookedkit felll (or did Mapleshade push him?) and broke his jaw on a stepping stone.

Crookedstar's kit name...
Hey, I heard somewhere that Crookedstar used to be Stormkit and he only got the "Crooked" prefix later on, is this true? Could someone possibly look into this.

Read Crookedstar's Promise. He and Oakheart were born in an oak tree durring a storm, when RiverClan had to evacuate the camp. Thus the names Oakkit and Stormkit. When they were 4 moons old the two of them snuck out of camp, and saw Goosefeather on Sunningrocks. Stormkit fell trying to chase him off, and a moon later, when he was let out of the medicine den, Rainflower, his mother, made Hailstar, the leader, change his name to Crookedkit. Shellheart, the deputy and his father, turns his back on Rainflower, with good reason. When she dies, it is revealed he never stoped loving her. -Mudstone

This belongs on the forums. 21:55, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reference
A reference is needed for his appearence as a gray tabby apprentice. 01:07, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Father
Hey I thought his father was Shellheart but now it says unknown and his mother is rainflower..... 17:57, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

Mother
Can I put that his mother is Rainflower? 19:00, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

We're going to have to wait on that, until the book comes out. Who knows, Rainflower could've died, and Lilypelt could've been her foster mother. Even though it lists Rainflower as his mother in the Allegiances, we'll probably have to wait out the few days until the book releases. 17:45, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

His kits
Silverstream is not his only kit because I got the new warriors app and in crooked star's section it said: Mother:Rainflower Father:Shellheart Mate:Willowbreeze Kits: Silverkit(later Silverstream), Minnowkit(deceased), and Willowkit(deceased) so that means he has two other kits named Minnowkit and Willowkit but they died sometime in between their birth and apprenticeship. 15:57, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

They died of greencough :'(

Why did Crookedstar and Oakheart turn out to be brown toms?
I don't really get it. Their parents both have gray pelts (Shellheart is dappled gray, Rainflower is pale gray), but they both turned out to be brown toms?

How the heck did this happen?

~PJFunnyBunny~

It's quite possible that the gene for their brown pelts came from their grandparents or something..... The Erins don't care much for genetics, though. xD 05:01, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Casual conversation belongs on the Off-wiki Forum. Please take it there. 05:02, July 21, 2011 (UTC)

Mapleshade
In this article it states that Mapleshade actually caused the deaths of Rainflower, Shellheart, and Hailstar. Nowhere in the book is it actually explicitly stated that she caused those deaths and in fact Brambleberry stated that she believed otherwise.

Is it actually verifiable that Mapleshade caused those deaths? If not, the article should be modified to state that Mapleshade watched the deaths or something similar. 80.189.112.148 16:33, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

It has never been confirmed explicitly although Mapleshade makes Crookedstar feel thus. Though judging by the text in CP, Mapleshade distracted Crookedstar from saving Hailstar and Rainflower, it seems (according to Brambleberry) that they would have died anyway no matter what Crookedstar did (Rainflower was already dead, and Hailstar's wound could not have been healed).

Loner?
Should he have his name as a loner listed as well, since he lived as a loner for a short time as a kit? I won't do it unless someone agrees. 15:12, August 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * But that whole time, he called himself a Clan cat. Would that technically make him a loner? It's a good idea, but if that were to be done, he'd need a whole other charart done. Not that I don't think it's a good idea... I just don't think he was considered a loner, per say. Just a kit who didn't know where he belonged. 19:31, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * He was tencallily a kit, he WAS 6 moons old, but not a apperetince, shall we take this up with the PCA, and see what they think? Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 19:39, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * He WAS a loner, techincally, for about a moon, but Mapleshade made him go back. I guess that's one good thing she did. -Elmostar
 * He's not getting a loner charart, so, therefor he wasn't considered a loner. It was already decided. 06:14, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

We should take it off his charcat that he has a loner name. I will, if there are no objections. 16:11, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Character Art
The last character art was MUCH better than this one and also, shouldnt he have a loner image? Aspen (Talk) 01:23, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but please take this to the Project character art, Please :) 01:29, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Also, that comment was rude and uncalled for. Everyone has their opinions about the images, but it doesn't help the Wiki   03:22, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Crookedstar
Alright, this was in the section when Crookedjaw was meeting up with Mapleshade and Thistleclaw in the Dark Forest. I believe she calls him Crookedstar, he he calls himself it. My kindle doesn't support page numbers, so it'd be great if someone would gather it for me. 20:41, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, who put him with a crooked jaw as a kit as incorrect. I don't remember two moon old kits being apprentices. - Sunclaw or something like that

No loner pic?
In Crookedstar's Promise he was a loner for a moon or so, but he doesn't have a loner pic. Should one be added?

Take all image questions to PCA.

1. I don't know where that is

2. I don't have an account.

He was a kit when he ran off. No loner image. 02:24, May 1, 2012 (UTC)

He was 6 moons old though, so he was an apprentice living in the nursery.

But he considered himself a Clan cat the whole time, so he shouldn't get one. 20:56, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Dark Forest Trainee
Shouldn't he be on the list of Place of No Stars Trainees? He trained with Mapleshade in his dreams.125.239.24.8 21:23, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Somebody needs to fix al the human images on the wiki pages.

It's an april fools joke.. 11:05, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

Oh.Happy April Fools Day!