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Stoneclaw (A) ~ For Approval
Comments? ErmineGlow (talk) 21:34, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

Very nice! Smooth shading near the rear?(No rhyme intended! :P) 21:37, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

Define the tail shading a tad, and define the light on <-- paw. Also, I belive there is leaking shading on --> back paw, and eye color leaking outside the lineart. 21:39, 6/06/2017

Reups Thanks Shypaw! And broken, the front paw you're talking about isn't supposed to have any light on it. ErmineGlow (talk) 21:45, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth, maybe add some shading to the <--- ear (just a tad) and darken the nose colour? 22:15, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

I don't think there is any nose color, and if there is, define it a bit 22:33, 6/06/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 22:34, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

The shading appears to be leaking on the front paw farthest from us. Also, lighten the shading a little bit? 22:37, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

I'm confused with your shading placement. The shading on the tail, back, and chest/neck area indicate that the light is coming from <--- (from the right/behind the cat) while the legs, haunches, and head indicate that the light is coming from the ---> (from the left/in front of the cat). I believe you're going to have to switch one of these in order for it to make sense. 23:06, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I switched around the shading. Is it better now? --ErmineGlow (talk) 13:49, June 7, 2017 (UTC)

I think the shading around the belly and definitely the face shading need to be swapped now. Also, define the light on the closest hind paw.

Vec said that if I only switched on of the shading parts around, I would be good. I switched around the legs and haunches, so I don't think I need to swap the chest/belly and face shading. ErmineGlow (talk) 22:36, June 7, 2017 (UTC)

I made a mistake (mostly because I was super tired when I wrote that, but that's not important); the head shading needs to be swapped (covering more of the <--- face with the light coming from the <---). Don't only just take my word. That's why there are other people here. I'm bound to make mistakes (like I just did). Danny's got a good eye for critiques. As for the belly shading, I personally think it's optional (artist's choice) for this shading perspective. If you're keeping it, I think it should be swapped so it hugs the foreleg instead of the hind leg. Or you could make it just emcompass the lower part of the belly. 23:28, June 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 12:16, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

The shading's leaking a little bit on the lower chest and the haunch, and I think the earpink might be layered over the lineart in ---> ear? 22:35, June 8, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 12:29, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

There's some shading leaking on his back and some in the upper left corner of the image. C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 #beaubeau 13:34, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the front legs and the closest back leg/paw

There's some waste on the back and above the head. 19:04, June 9, 2017 (UTC)


 * Opps, I didn't mean leaking, what I meant was waste! Lol. C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 #beaubeau 19:11, June 9, 2017 (UTC)

There is still some shading leaking on the back leg closest to us. 13:00, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 13:21, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

There's leaking shading almost everywhere, see here http://vvcap.com/sJTZiQGhuRX 09:38, 6/11/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 15:37, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

Define <--- earpink. 18:15, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

define the light on the tail

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 19:49, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

Add some light to the back leg furthest from us? C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 #beaubeau 23:46, June 12, 2017 (UTC)


 * Not light, I mean shading. My bad. C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 #beaubeau 01:01, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 13:32, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

Shading's leaking away from the lineart on the haunch a little bit

Re-ups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:26, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like the shading is still leaking on the haunch. 01:33, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

The highlight in the eyes needs to be in the provided hole in the pupil I think

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:10, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste all around the back. 23:22, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:25, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the closest back paw. Not the leg, just the paw

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:46, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten shading a little.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:07, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 20:35, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the haunch and the back area above the haunch some^^

Reups Just Re-did the shading because I didn't really like it. ErmineGlow (talk) 16:45, June 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Defined some of the shadingErmineGlow (talk) 16:52, June 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the chest, front leg closest to us, and the haunch. There are also light-colored pixels on the back leg closest to us, which should be removed. http://i.imgur.com/u5QxPBc.png 20:48, June 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, June 17, 2017 (UTC)

This is looking nice so far! Define the shading depth on the closest front leg?

Can you define the tail shading?

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 15:23, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

Define > earpink?Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  04:35, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the shoulder

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 16:32, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

The shading looks like it's leaking on the upper arm closest to us. 02:07, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on the back ---> paw <span style="">07:05, 6/26/2017

Bold text ErmineGlow (talk) 19:41, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

smooth the shading on the flank, near the back and in front of the hindleg. define the earpink a little on <-- ear. 04:10, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Bold text ErmineGlow (talk) 14:15, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like there's a few white-ish lighter than the base pixels on the -> side of the -> back paw, and also define the light on the tail tip

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 16:44, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

the shading at the top of the hindleg and by the shoulder look a bit blotchy/darker compared to the rest, can you smooth them out? 13:58, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Bold text ErmineGlow (talk) 16:28, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Why are the eyes green? They should be amber

Reups I believe they looked green due to the shade of yellow I was using for the eye depth. It should be fixed now. ErmineGlow (talk) 22:04, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading above the spot between the stomach and haunch. Or, smooth out the depth there. 17:50, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Also, add some orange to the eyes. For depth and for the colour to be more amber, less yellow, and match. 17:53, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Deerdapple (Star) ~ Declined
Deerdapple Starclan Char. Art Not the best but hope it works ^^ fixed shading/name/linework/reserved) (Edit) - Fixed shading and choppy edges around line art more (Edit - fixed shading placement)

Emberstar <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 03:24, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Remove the white background. Did you colorpick from the other two images? 03:26, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Yep - I'll get that fixed right now - the shading isnt color picked but the rest is  Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 03:33, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Remove alignment and doesn't someone else have this reserved? Rainbowmistake (talk) 03:35, June 26, 2017 (UTC)chat

Edit: Berry does Rainbowmistake (talk) 03:37, June 26, 2017 (UTC)chat

Didn't see anyone w/ her - alignment? Emberstar <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 03:38, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Actually I believe Berry's reservation has run out. It has been a week since she reserved it and she has not put it up. 03:49, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Also, the file should be named File:Deerdapple.star.png 03:51, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

1, the image needs to match the warrior. 2, is this reserved? And 3, I'm pretty sure only two images can be up at a time.

Sorry, i meant one image.

The lineart appears to be edited

I suggest you to take a look at the tutorials. The image looks over blurred.

De-thumbed and removed alignment. Also the image is still named wrong.

Excuse me if I repeat anything, but the shading could be defined <span style="">11:29, 6/26/2017

There is waste around the entire image, most noticeably next to the <- leg. I think the lineart is blurred as well. 15:31, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

I don't think the lineart is blurred, persay. I just think they painted over it. I could be wrong.

i'm pretty sure they used a photoshop filter for the entire image. if you're using photoshop, you can undo the filter with the history panel :) otherwise, unfortunately (i love this style of linear art lol) the linear art needs to look as it was. nice image btw. and i think for convenience, I'll sum up what everybody has commented on this image since its quite a long wall of text and nobody wants to read that, so here are some immediate concerns with the image as pointed out by the others:

1. make shading a more visible shape also has to be more blurred (convenient way is to use the blur tool at 100% strength) - brokenfoot

2. try and self-study the tutorials to match up to the PCA standards for the art - fix girl

3. fix the linear art. the convenient method to do that would be to use the history panel to check when you used the image filter and undo it- my comment in a nutshell 18:34, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Fixed Shading but how do i fix lineart on Paint Sai? -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 19:29, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

What do you use for your shading? Also, there's an extra space in the file name after "star". 19:33, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

I would take the normal lineart and paste it over your current lineart, get rid of your current lineart, and bam, you have regular lines.

Also, Please don't align your images. 20:31, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

You still have this image to match. As for the image itself, could you define your light source, smooth out and lighten the shading, and define eye depth?

You also still need to reserve this, or else it will be declined.

Reserved - How should I make it look less choppy around the head (Well the line art in general)? -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 23:27, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

I renamed the file to File:Deerdapple.star.png. Please make sure to upload over that from now on. 01:53, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 02:20, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Try saving the lineart again (as a different image), and drop it onto of this image. (if that makes sense.) 02:56, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 03:05, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Removed alignment. Please upload over File:Deerdapple.star.png. 03:09, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Fixed name/Cant change alignment as the editor only works in Source (Weird laptop glitch?) and can't do it on source mode -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 03:11, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Use this blank. File:StarClan.long.png Use the blank, remove the white, and just remake the whole image. Use layers so the lineart isn't choppy, and you should get a good start. <span style="">06:57, 6/27/2017

Re-Upload -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 08:46, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

The colors and design should match the other images. To remove alignment in source mode, get rid of the |right or |left that comes after the image name, and you should be good to go.

Your shading placement is contradictory. On the front legs, main body, and tail, it looks as if the lighting is coming from the left or ---> this way. On the head, it looks as if the lighting is coming from the right or <--- this way. I suggest, to make this super simple, to switch the shading from the left side of the face to the right side of the face. And remove some shading from underneath the head and move it closer to the ---> space underneath the head, closer to the lineart. 14:02, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth, define the shading on the <- leg, and smooth the shading everywhere. 14:19, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

There's still some lineart missing on the ---> front paw and where the tail meets the main body. This is really cute. :) 17:22, June 27, 2017 (UTC)

Re-Upload-- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 00:10, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Still doesn't match. <span style="">00:29, 6/28/2017

There's also still missing lineart by the base of the tail. You problem should be fixed when you paste the lineart over your current, I don't see why there's still missing pixels.

Smooth the shading everywhere, the stripes on the main body should be a little thicker and there should be more of them, the stripes overall should be more smudged, there are several lighter pixels near the lineart everywhere, and there is waste below the -> side of the head. I think there is texture on the silver too. 00:34, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Re-Upload -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 05:27, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe ask the OAs for the other images so you can match it better <span style="">05:46, 6/28/2017

Re-Upload -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 10:11, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

She's looking more white then silver or something <span style="">10:13, 6/28/2017

The stripes need to be less smudged/more hard-edged. 16:23, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Re-Upload -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 17:20, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

There seems to be unfilled pixels, the stripes still don't match, and they also need to be a bit smudged. Look at the warrior image for reference.

Smooth the shading a lot. 20:06, June 28, 2017 (UTC)

Ask Patch for the elder prehaps <span style="">02:27, 6/29/2017

yea i still have the elder file if you want it. there is still quite a bit of line art that is missing, and some of it looks blurred. 04:16, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Yes please! Also any tips on stripe duplicating? -- Emberstar  <span style="color:rgb(1,58,223);">  Floating in the stars of ember 20:34, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Ember! below is my answer to your question. while i am writing this, i'd like you to keep in mind that there is very little that one can teach you about art and i'd like to first and foremost emphasize that nothing improves you more than practice. you chose a very difficult image to match as one of your first images- although nothing is better than a challenge! this image has gone far from where it started and it shouldn't be hard to take a step further from where you are now. If i were to match this image, these would be the steps I would take.

1. use layers. literally its the most useful and convenient tool in any art program- when i do projects for art class i can use up to 80 layers just because of how useful they are. im noticing you are blurring the linear art, which is a huge issue that can arise if you don't use layers because you are forced to edit everything simultaneously. the problem can be easily avoided by using layers because you can edit your stripes, your shading and your linear art separately without having to mess up another component of the image. the layers panel should be found on the right hand side of the art program and there should be a a small icon of a blank piece of paper on the bottom right that allows you to create new layers. once you have done that drag the layers up and down to place them below or on top of each other and draw in each layer accordingly. i strongly suggest you to experiment with layers with random stuff to get a hand of just how useful and convenient they are.

2. I will try and immediately observe similarities in style across the images and attempt to match it in my own image. so first of all i will notice that the stripes are hard edged, meaning that they aren't blurred. I would approach drawing them by using a soft-edged brush without smudging or blurring them. (in photoshop, you can adjust the "hardness" of the brush in the panel on top by clicking the display with an image of your brush shape and size. in gimp... i forgot XD) I will also notice that most of the stripes are relatively thick and taper out (which is a slight issue on your current image, because the stripes on the legs and the head aren't thick enough) and therefore keep most stripes at around, say about three pixels thick in general? in conclusion: thick, tapering stripes that have a jagged, hard edged look

3. for the placement of the stripes, the only advice i can give you is to Really try to observe and copy the placement of the stripes (you really only have to match the elder image in this case, because it is facing the same side and therefore should have the same stripes placement. download the image, zoom in, and observe it thoroughly, it will help you a lot). try and think how you can transfer the placement of the stripes onto the starclan blank. what i find convenient and easy is to match the stripes body part by body part. for example, i usually start off with the head and will try and copy the placement of the stripes there; then i will move on to the chest, body tail, etc. a good way to possibly think about it is to try and visualize what the same cat sitting in this position would look like: if the same cat in the elder image were to move to an angle of the starclan image, where would the stripes be on the head? the haunch? the legs? i'm afraid there's not much that can be really be said about stripe placement and what can only really be done to improve is to practice, practice and practice again. if you really are struggling, i will gladly create you a redline for reference! in conclusion: observe, picture it, and draw it. improve by practice. art is very difficult to teach and art class is absolute hot garbage.

4. f**k texture

01:59, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

You got number 4 right there, Life^^^ Anyhow, define the <-- earpink <span style="">17:36, 6/30/2017

Still working?

Let us try to keep the swearing down, please. If you are still working, maybe expand the shading a tad? 05:49, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work.

Apple Blossom (A) ~ For Approval
Wow, her pattern's hard to match. I really like how Wrenflight turned out, so I'm doing another sharp shading style. Comments? 03:22, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Define shading. <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 03:24, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded  03:29, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

make the stripes flow more with the body shape. For example, the stripe on her front leg is just a straight line across when it should be curved.

Proud of you on how many images you got done^ Maybe ask Snowed for her warrior or kit <span style="">07:50, 6/29/2017

I'd gladly give Shy the file, but keep in mind that I only use Photoshop and have no way to convert .psd files to anything else.

Maybe give her the hex codes for the textures and colors prehaps? They seem a bit off. <span style="">10:40, 6/29/2017

Actually, no, they really don't. They're not really all that far off and considering Shy and I shade differently, I'd say the colors match well enough. The only two things that really don't here are the stripes and the unsmudged white.

Expand the white on the chest a little bit? I feel like we would see more of the chest at this angle than on the warrior. 13:56, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded my email isn't the fastest thing to load too, so... 17:25, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

You're doing such a good job with your characters, Shy! This is one of your best ones so far. Anyways, define the lighting on -> leg closest to us? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 20:36, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thank you! 20:43, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Soften the stripes a tad <span style="">11:14, 6/30/2017

I think the stripes should be thinner on ---> front leg? 13:19, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

Shy, if you'd like (and if you don't mind waiting until Saturday), I would be more than willing to make you a guide of sorts as to what the stripes would look like using her other images. If you'd rather do it yourself, that's totally fine. I know her pattern isn't the easiest thing on the earth.

Reuploaded If you can that would really help, thanks. :) 22:36, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded again 04:10, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the face and chest a tad? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 04:17, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:43, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

The shading cuts off really sharp on the > eartip - can you cover that with shading, or smooth it out? :)

Reuploaded :) 02:39, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I have a bit of a problem... my laptop, where the files for this set were, decided to take a dump and for some reason, I lost half of my files in the folder where I kept this. =/ I'm sorry about that. Maybe just add an extra stripe to the elbow/arm and blur or smudge these ones a bit. They match fairly well, honestly.

Reuploaded That's fine, computers do that a lot especially if they're refurbished. :P 17:24, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Thin the tail stripes a bit

Also maybe reduce white around eyes, I don't think they go up that far on either of the other images

Reuploaded 19:07, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Can you thin stripes more and reduce white around eyes, it looks the same

Reuploaded 23:54, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on both farthest legs, and define the shading depth on the chest area?

Reuploaded 00:11, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

Thistle (TC) (W) ~ For Evaluation


Voila, my first charart for this project. :)

~Wafflepaw/heart of BlogClan~ 16:14, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Not bad for your first image! However, there's waste on the upper back of him, the image is named wrong, and I think the stripes need to be a bit more. . . smudged? Look at these two for reference.

Define the shading, this is good Rainbowmistake (talk) 16:56, June 29, 2017 (UTC)chat

Can you define the earpink? ErmineGlow (talk) 16:58, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Define the tail stripes? Nice! 17:08, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth, and there appears to be some miscolored lineart, mainly on the tail and legs. Not bad at all. 18:14, June 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ears too. 18:20, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I defined the shading, earpink and tail stripes and removed the waste.

~Wafflepaw/heart of BlogClan~ 20:44, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Define shading depth and light on the tail and all four legs. 20:45, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

There's a little waste behind the neck, and can you try to desaturate the image a little? I feel like it might help the colors match more.

Also, this needs to be named File:Thistle (TC).warrior.png 00:38, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

damn, this reminds me of my early days of charart. nice job! add some shading on the ear and i was going to say the same thing as shypaw did but nvm lol. 02:01, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

Nice job on your first image! If you're having trouble with shading and light sources and whatnot, look here for tips :)

I just renamed this to the proper file name for you, so please continue to upload under File:Thistle (TC).warrior.png :)

Still working?

Lilystem (Star) ~ For Approval
Weird how I'm even less active now than when I had school... Anyways the stripes don't look right but I'm not sure how to make them better sooo help

Define face shading? 01:12, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Well, I think some of the stripes are a little thicker on the other images, for one thing. Also, I think the eyes look a bit grey compared to the other images. 01:12, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere, lots. :D 01:14, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hmm I think stripes look better now

Thin the tail dorsal stripe a lil' - the warrior is the first in the set, and it looks thinner on that

Define the eye depth a bit? Rainbowmistake (talk) 03:24, July 1, 2017 (UTC)chat

Define tail and leg shading? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 03:27, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lol I only saw Spooky's comment so I'll reupload in a minute

Reuploaded Hmmm

nicely matched! however, in respect to the shading, the image looks a little 2d rn- which can be fixed by expanding the shading area literally everywhere on this image 03:54, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, shading expanded

ok the problem with the shading is that you basically shaded the entire outline. It doesn't honestly have a light source. remove some shading from the left/right depending on where you want your light source to be.

Reuploaded Okaay I cleaned it up but I'm pretty sure it's fine? Source is pretty much straight on, but if you still think it has problems then I'll redo it

i do believe the light source was a problem previously, but now it looks fine overall- it's just inconsistent on the head and the back. on the rest of the body, the light appears to be coming from the top left side, therefore the shadow should fall on the right side of the head. in addition, there also should be less to no light on the back (along the spine, i mean) because the light should be visible there unless the light is coming from a really low angle, which it doesn't look to be, observing the shadow on the head and the paws. TLDR, i suggest you to swap the head shading around and remove the shadow along the spine of the image for consistency in light source. 09:18, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ok I left some shading on the back just because that's the other side of the cat, and I'm not sure if I added enough shading to the right side of the face so lemme know

Define the shading on the legs?

Reuploaded 

Reuploaded Again because the tail was annoying me

Gonna second a past comment here - can you define the light on the back? I'm pretty sure it'd be in the light with this source. Also, I think the facial shading could be expanded a little

Expand tail shading and leg shading a wee bit? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 23:40, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded I reduced the back shading and lightened it, but the image looks really flat without it and besides, it is the other side of the cat, which I really believe would not be in the light

Define the shading. Overall, this is a very nice image. 07:26, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks!

Wolfstep (W) - For Approval
this sucks  11:15, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

define the shading. those stripes are neat. 11:28, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading on the white tail tip?

Re-uploaded - uploading an image then forgetting that you did  18:21, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on all legs

Can you make the pupil stand out more? I'm having a hard time seeing it. <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 16:40, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

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Strikestone (K) - For Approval
i'd appreciate it if nobody commented on the highlights, ill get to em (As well as any comments relating to it matching the other images, its the highlights and as i mentioned previously, ill fix them) 13:45, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

reup so i didnt solve the problem and i made it look more ugly heh... 13:54, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

Do you want the .psd for the warrior or my rendering of the kit? Some of the colors are deceiving. <span style="">14:00 Sun Jul 2

the file would be appreciated if i end up continuing with this image or just for future reference lol :] it'd be great if u could send it to qwert123d@yahoo.com. thanks man 14:31, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

CBA?

Sorry, but until they get the file, the stripe color looks off.

I sent the files. Give Burnt some time on it. The warrior has a ton of layers to get through. <span style="">12:21 Wed Jul 5

reup  my emails not working f its china's stupid interent that cant agree with ANYTHING but 163 and baidu. so i might just reuploaded anyway in case i never recieve it- if i do ill upload accordingly. @homosneksual what do you mean? i dont necessarily need the file to match the colors or complete an image... ? it helps? but? 13:50, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

lol im dumb i had the reup tab open next to me as i was typing the message above then i forgot i didnt upload and closed the tab later xd. anyway i FINALLY logged into my email (sorry man its not one i check often) and fixed up a lot of things i didnt have on the kit <Small>holy shit that was more complicated than i thought... 14:52, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

I ask that we do not swear on the wiki. Can you define the shading on the paws? 01:13, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

hh done 03:26, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

The white looks more like it's on the chest, but he's described with a white belly.

reup the stuff on the chest is the color of his pale parts. i didnt have white on the belly tho so i added it 03:48, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

Oatwhisker (WC) (Star) - For Approval
Why the hell isn't the image showing up..? Well this was fun to do. <span style="">16:10 Sun Jul 2

Here he is. Since the image isn't showing up. <span style="">16:15 Sun Jul 2

Wikia's being a butt with images. Also, is it just me, or do his images look... more yellow than creamy brown?

I noticed that while I was working on it. There's a highlight, but the colors are more like a pale ginger. Want me to put the elder up for a tweak and adjust the colors? <span style="">16:21 Sun Jul 2

If you wouldn't mind, I would greatly appreciate it. It wouldn't be fair to you if all of your comments on this image are about the coloring when all you're doing is trying to match another image. =P

Changes Here Let me know if I need to wait for the elder to be tweaked first and I'll revert the colors back. <span style="">16:46 Sun Jul 2

Yeah, you'll have to wait, especially because there's a chance that it couldn't pass, and I think since Berry would be tweaking it, you should let her decide on the colors.

Rushtooth (W) ~ For Approval
I'm having trouble uploading these images now...anywho, here's Rushtooth! <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 03:17, July 3, 2017 (UTC)\

Can you lighten the shading on the stripes or define them?

'''Re-uploaded. '''If it isn't showing, here. <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 21:48, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

There's waste on the --> side of the tail

The stripes and base color of the df look lighter

I have the file for the df, so they're pretty much right. Unless Sunjaw thinks otherwise or anyone else? I can try color picking again to make sure they're right. <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 03:49, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

The stripe color's fine, but the the base does seem darker. :) Mind sharping the tail stripes a tad?   04:00, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

It looks fine to me. I know there's some differences between the appearance of layer settings in PS and Sai but this looks the same. I gave Cosmo the file and the colors all came from that. <span style="">18:12 Tue Jul 4

Re-uploaded. Hope I got everything? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 03:27, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth on the closest front leg?

There's shading there, it's just the pale part which makes it blend in, but I'll try. <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 00:02, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 02:33, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

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Define texture

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Are you sure this is supposed to have texture? I know the es has texture but it doesn't look like the rogue does.. also this looks too light imo

Reuploaded That's about as dark as it can get to pure black, unless I start tinting the texture. Also, I'm positive the rogue has texture, because if you screen lighten that whole image to get a better look, it's fairly visible..

Falcon Swoop (Q) - For Approval
14:05, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

This is pretty Patch <3 The stripes seem softer on the sharpclaw, so prehaps soften them a little. Also, I think I'm seeing texture on the sharpclaw lol <span style="">16:54, 7/03/2017

Re-uploaded. thanks 20:00, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Could you smudge/blur the tail tip more? And maybe reduce texture opacity a lil I don't think it's as noticeable on sharpclaw (though maybe I just can't see texture idk)

Re-uploaded. 03:29, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Polly (Ki) ~ For Approval
Okay so I didn't know I even had Photoshop, and then Snowed gave me the file, and I have zero idea how to get the colors so oopsies. wow that's a looooot of layers snowed how do you even keep track

idk man I just do. it must be magic. also, define the texture.

re-up changes if needed.

Stripes look thicker/more dense on kittypet, and thin out the M on the forehead a little

So, what do you want me to do about the stripe issue? keep in mind that this is a kit image, so stripes are obviously going to be thinner and smaller. Also, seeing as these blanks are in different positions. . . you get the point. Not asking for a second opinion. . . just asking Snowfall to clarify.

Know you're not asking for another opinion, but I know these blanks are a pain in the ass to match designs with, and sometimes you gotta cram tons of stripes into one place. I think it's fine.

The only reason I even mentioned the stripes was because on the kittypet there's more dark brown than light brown showing but I get that it's a small blank and a different angle. Though I still think the M should be more thin if you can make it that, and smooth out the top -> side of the M as well. Lastly, define shading depth a tad?

re-up I'm hesitant to do this, because I don't want it to be too red.

The "M" stripe on the kittypet image has a much more defined shape and is less curved, if that makes sense? Nice image. 18:42, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

The stripes should be smudged a bit.

Deerpaw (TC) (Star) ~ For Approval
Finally finished with my exams 16:50, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the texture a little? Also, dunno if you need them, but I have the files for both the kit and apprentice should you want them :)

Ooh congrats, I hope you did well on them. Anyways could you lighten the shading a little and smooth it out on her/his shoulder?

Define the earpink in --> ear Rainbowmistake (talk) 14:37, July 4, 2017 (UTC)chat

Re-ups I did well,now i just dont know what to do with the free time :D 21:22, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Add some shading to the <-- ear, just so it's not completely flat? This is pretty :^0

Houndleap (W) ~ For Approval
It's not letting me see it, so here 18:12, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 23:38, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

The texture is too thick and overblurred. Perhaps sharpen it?

I think the texture should be darker too

I honestly did a terrible job when I made the df, but I can say that the texture's color looks about right, and should only be thinned and sharpened a bit (plus you have the file I sent, so I'm sure you'd have just gotten the colors from that)

Reups 17:48, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a little bit on the front leg closest to us. 18:39, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reups 03:46, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

Rushtail (RC) (Star) ~ For Approval
Herein lies the image that depicts the story of a protagonist who tried again again and again but it still ended in a tragedy

Define shading depth on flank? 02:29, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

hello. please define the shading depth on that ear. jk everywhere 03:05, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 才不会呢！！

Hmm this might just be me, but the tail stripes kinda look like texture, could you try to make them curve and twist more? I hope you know what I mean

Re-uploaded They're like that on her other images, so I didn't honestly change it that much.

Define the eye depth 20:18, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

The eye depth is fine; not sure why people are obsessed with having eyes be super super defined with coloring, but it's getting a bit nitpicky. You can clearly see there is variation in color here, which meets the requirements for the project.

Foxy (Ki) - For Approval
This is like, actually disgusting. I tried something weird with the shading, and I might just redo the shading entirely :^))

This is very beautiful! Maybe define the shading everywhere, especially on the face? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 23:24, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the white on the two front paws more? Your kit images are amazing, Snek. :) 23:28, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

reups I'm yelling y'all are so nice thank you

Define the shading on the tail a little bit? 16:17, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

reups

Fernpaw (TAQ) (K) - For Approval
I'm assuming grey tabby Fernpaw is the one I'm supposed to do. Also tried smudged shading... I think I did good. 01:12, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Beautiful! One of your best works so far! Define the earpink in --> ear and lighten the shading some on the body on --> side? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 01:16, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Dis is so cute! Can you make the shading cover more of the chest? I'm pretty sure there would be shading there. (As for which image you should make it's very confusing, because it says she's a gray tabby, but the alt is a gray tabby and *shrug*)

Yeah, looks like you did the right one, the images must be mixed up. Smooth the shading on -> paw

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Define shading on <-- leg? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 14:39, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

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Snail Shell (A) ~ For Evaluation
I really am proud of this, hope you like it. PepperPiper11 (talk) 18:24, July 5, 2017 (UTC) This is great, Pepper. Define the shading and shading depth. 18:30, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe add some smaller speckles, kind of like the kit has? This is beautiful.

Smooth out the shading on the furthest hind leg? 18:41, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Purdy! Add some shading to <-- ear and define the earpink in --> ear? <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 18:43, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks everyone! PepperPiper11 (talk) 19:07, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

I think the colors are off a little, because when I was making the warrior, Skye told me that the kit is based off Ashfur's colors

Reuploaded  I did use highlights, that might be the reason why, but I did colorpick the colors again. ^^ PepperPiper11 (talk) 19:28, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

You did a good job for your first image! Define the earpink in the -> ear. Any chance I could get a picture of the image of the image without the highlights? If the white are the highlights, then I would say tone them down a little bit. 19:47, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

The nose is supposed to match the kit's. I also suggest colorpicking from the kit, as it is the first one in the set. :) This is really good, Pepper, you've got a lot of artistic talent, considering this is your first charart. 20:11, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Dull the highlights, as it looks like it's throwing off the coloring. The kit is the first one in this set, as Shypaw said.

Reuploaded Thanks, Shypaw! I colorpicked from the kit, and deleted the highlights. PepperPiper11 (talk) 13:46, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

I think the spots look a little too big, and try smudging them

Reuploaded 15:40, July 6, 2017 (UTC)

Honeyleaf (Ki) - For Approval
I did colorpick from the loner; if the colors look off, it's because of the differences in shading style. 18:34, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Define ear pink and facial shading? Pretty! <font face="Brush Script MT,cursive" color="451179" style="font-size:17px;text-shadow:4px 4px 4px #b278ed;">C o s m o s n e s s 🐾 <font face="Papyrus" color="3a3ce4" style="font-size:10px;">#cat lady 18:44, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 18:49, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

I think the stripes right under the eyes extend too far but that's really minor and other than that this looks like it matches well :)

Re-uploaded. 13:09, July 6, 2017 (UTC)