Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Redtail (D)~ Redone
Needed to be redone as a long hair. Original artist is PockyStar. Comments? 04:22, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

It did not need to be redone. All we would have to do is change the tail. That was totally unnecessary. The images were completely fine, it just needed to be long-haired. Please just take the old one and make it long-haired instead of making a new one, same goes for the warrior. Posting a totally new one would mean an entire approval process, which we simply do not have time for. The old images were already approved and looked fine, it was just the tail. Having the images redone is far more time consuming. 04:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

It needs to be redone, and if you had an issue with it you should have brought it up on the forum. No one else disagreed. 04:32, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Where was it said that it needed to be redone...Ugh. Can you please give me a link to the forum where it was said that he needed to be redone? Anyways, take off the brown, as tortoiseshell cats cannot possibly have brown markings, and the smudging is really wonky. A cat's fur goes in one direction, and smudging creates a furry texture. The smudging shouldn't go out every which way. Move the ear pink up in his ear, darken/desturate it and darken the shading. Remove the mottled spots on his tail. 05:04, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh and remove the random little white spots. That is also not possible on a cat and it just looks strange anyways. 05:05, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think ALL the white should be removed. It says on his page he's a DARK tortoiseshell, like Tawnypelt, not a tortoiseshell and white. And he does need to be redone. He needs to be dappled, given feathered ears (he still needs those BTW), made a DARK tortoiseshell plus he needs to be long haired. This is absolutely GORGEOUS though. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 08:48, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

RE-uploaded- Thats a realistic dark tortie. I dont care for it. 21:08, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

You need to get rid of the patterns on his tail, and his markings look like smudged orange stripes, they should be more like patches (but still smudged of course). 21:10, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Look at a reallt dark tortie and it does lok like stripes, and the tail is supposed to be dappled. 21:13, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

See my comment on his warrior image below v v --

Redid it again because i really didnt like the old way. 00:14, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the smudging smoother, again. ;3 Like the one below. 00:47, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Its really good! Make the earpink smoother and less blotchy. 16:27, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 16:52, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded. 19:23, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

It says in his description that he has feathered ears...shouldn't the ends of his ears be fuzzy? Blur the earpink a tad bit more. 20:08, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 01:11, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 17:36, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

The eye lineart is a little lighter, Great job :D 03:39, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome job! Just fix the comment above, and it should be good... 15:17, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks great, just that the earpink doesn't look like an earpink...it's a bit light. 15:21, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 19:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks like it's blending into the red part of his fur on his neck. Can this be fixed?  Law liet  Ta lk 21:49, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add a patch to her front leg, it's kinda empty. 01:50, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

It looks really good! 15:16, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Redtail (W)~ Redone
Needed to be redone as a long hair. Original artist is Insanular. Comments? 04:22, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

He is a DARK tortie, get rid of ALL the white, and give him dapples, and see if you can fiugre out how to 'feather' his ears. other than that, very nice. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 14:37, July 7, 2011 (UTC).

Make the smudging smoother. Nice job. :] 15:14, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

RE-uploaded- 21:09, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Wow, huge change. Maybe make his tail a bit more distinctively ginger, it doesn't stand out much in this case. Dark torties do have brighter patches: See from this one. You should've just kept the old design sans the white patches in my opinion. And someone needs to re-do the kit and apprentice art as well to match. Shellheart 21:18, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

^^Yea, Shellheart's righ 8\ Make the tail a brighter to make it stand out like the description says OH, and darken the ear pink A TAD --

Reuploaded. 00:15, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Perfect! Very nice, I love it. Shellheart 01:23, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion its ready, but we'll see for others' opinions. ;D 16:54, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 17:04, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 19:24, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit, make his tail a tad more ginger, change the colour of the red pixel in his eye, and blur where the black meets the red on the ear furthest from us.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 00:59, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 01:12, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Those ears look so strange. They look more tangled and broken than feathered. His other Charart had normal ears.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 01:17, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thats why theyre being tweaked. I got the lineart from tawnyspots, who also has tuffed ears. 01:27, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

The orange needs to be desaturated, a cat would never have such vibrant colours, it should be a soft, low-saturation, diluted shade of orange (aside from the tail, its colour is fine). And make the orange patches smaller but have more of them if you know what I mean. Maybe make the tufts a wee bit smaller. This is looking nice! :3 04:19, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 17:37, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Great work! darken the tail shading a bit. 02:29, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading a bit. 15:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 19:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The bottom tuft on the ear showing (vague...sigh) try making it more..pointy, it's kinda like a straight line right now. :3 Darken the shading. 01:50, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Adderfang (W) - Redone
I had a hard time findin' the right colour for shading. xD Comments? 05:00, July 7, 2011 (UTC) Edit: Honeyfur was the original artist; needed it to match the deputy picture. 17:01, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

<-- Change some of the stripes to spots. -- 05:42, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded, not sure if the changes showed. xD 05:47, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

You were supposed to state the original artist and what needed to be done tsk tsk. You might want to check out the rules again;). 16:54, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've always been quite the rule breaker. ;D 17:01, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the whole thing up a bit. 17:04, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add highlights to the front paw. Great work! 17:29, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 18:46, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

The tail shading is awfully dark. You should lighten it a bit. 19:21, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading is fine. 19:34, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't this get highlights since his other pixil has them? Also, can't we just integrate most of the deputy version into this and just tweak the body parts that are different? 20:10, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

This does has highlights, and it just has to have the same markings as the deputy. It doesn't need to have same shading, highlights, etc. 20:12, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

The highlights of his body are lighter than his head highlights. Lighten the head highlight. 02:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I, personally, think the highlights look fine. Highlights don't need to be the same tone, I suppose. 03:51, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

It would match better that way... 15:14, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well I don't know then, It's the artist's choice. 16:40, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I guess so. 16:49, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Looks good, Froo :3 21:40, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Looks amazing, Frostheart. Can you lighten up the shading just a tad though?  Law liet  Ta lk 21:48, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink is to sharp and piontey and more highlights on the chest area 01:05, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I did all of the above, but @Sandstorm, I blurred the ear pink a tad, but if I added more highlights, it'd be too much, and it'd look like..funkeh. xD 01:13, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hollyleaf (W) - Redone
Comments? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. 07:24, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Done. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:30, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

You were supposed to state the original artist and what needed tweaking, and you might want to check out the rules for posting again. Blur the shading a bit more. 16:56, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think there was an original artist for this one, it's just a whole new piece. You made her into a long-haired female in lieu of a short haired, right?

Ya but it should be reuploaded right over the old image so there is an older one that somebody made. 18:38, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh! I completely forgot about the original artist! *facepalm* I'll go post that on both of my pics. And I thought it WOULD have gone over the original image. I thought it was named the same thing..... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:00, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - The shading's now blurred as much as it possible can be. And I can't figure out the original artist on this one. D: But yes, she needed to be long haired (and blur the highlights were a bit blotchy on this one, but that wasn't listed on the page) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:12, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Great job! Lighten t he highlight on the tail so it matches with the body highlights. 15:42, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the front left (her left) leg 17:05, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Man, I'm horrible at critiquing black cats -_-...umm...define the light parts a little. 20:45, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Moonleaf, there IS shading on that leg, so I'm assuming you mean make it more visible? And by define, do you mean unblur Ivystripe? Cause I was told TWICE already to blur, so I don't think I should... ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 00:34, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think it's fine. Define the shading on the chest a bit more, blur it, and it should be ready. 05:26, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great, but shouldn't it be up as hollyleaf.warrior.png so it replaces the old image? The short-haired version is still on her page. Shellheart 16:10, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Shellheart is right. Just make the W in warrior lowercase. 17:59, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading. 01:11, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Change the image name. 02:32, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Done. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:08, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Bleh, its still not showing. I went to the file page, so, blur the earpink more. And, I'll delete the old file. 08:24, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, why is it doing that? also, Reuploaded ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:05, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Its doing that because there is excessive uploading of images onto the wiki by newer users who don't follow the rules. I'm still deleting a lot, but there's too many. If you can, put the delete tag on images so that they can be deleted. I think its showing now. Lighten the tail highlight a bit, and thats all, I think. :D 15:48, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hollyleaf (MCA) - Redone
Like her warrior, she needed to be long haired. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 05:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink extends to the top of her ear a little too much. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 17:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading on the tail. Good job! 19:31, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I fixed the earpink and made the shading more visible on the tail. I forgot to mention that the original artist on this was Mapelfern. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 23:14, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with this. 17:06, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

It looks fantastic! Could you lighten the highlight on the tail a little more so that it looks as light as her other highlights? If you can't, then this is perfect. :D 17:37, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tail shading. 01:12, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Done. And I also reuploaded over the old file and I'm putting a delete tag on the new one. I didn't know that it was case sensitive when it came to file names. I figured it'd just upload over the original file. It's not showing up right now though, it's just a stretched version of the shorthaired one. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:05, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I checked, and its not uploaded over the original file. 08:27, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes it is. This is her MEDICINE CAT apprentice, not her plain apprentice. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:02, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

lol. I can't tell the difference xD I deleted the old file now. It looks wonderful, but why are all the herbs the same shade of green? 15:25, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! ^^ I don't know, I just personally think they look better like that. They don't have to be, but it's just my preference. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:17, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Milkfur (WC) (D) - Redone
I'm proud of this too. 18:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Give her the dark gray ear-tips, and blur the highlights and shading a tad, other than that, good job. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 18:57, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading around the haunch and legs, and maybe make the earpink a tad more triangular. 19:10, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make him more of an off-white. 19:10, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Mossy was original artist. 19:13, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 19:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I had to fix the shading. Sorry. 19:37, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink just a little. 20:00, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:31, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 05:27, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 16:47, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make him a little more cream. 17:07, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I really think the color's fine. 17:09, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: I lightened the shading a bit. 17:24, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add a highlight to the tail? It looks a bit 2D. The highlights on the body look wonderful! 17:46, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 17:52, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Could you make it a tad more cream colored? It looks like it's barely off-white as it is. 20:12, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think the colour is fine, lighten the shading and blur it more, though. 20:51, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Is this good? 21:15, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink more pale.- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 01:15, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Also shape it a tad more into a triangle. 05:27, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 18:25, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the head highlight to match the other highlights. 01:43, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights a little more with the shading. 02:27, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little blotchy; smooth it out a bit :3 21:42, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Owlstar (SotC) (L) - Tweaked
So, I tweaked it, but I still don't think it looks right. Suggestions, anyone? And yes, I am aware of the gray around Owlstar, I'll take care of that later on - I just wanted opinions on how it looks otherwise.  Law liet  Ta lk 18:58, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 19:06, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make the nose gray. 19:08, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

You know, his description says that he has large eyes. Would it be possible for the leader art to reflect this? ~Shellheart
 * Probably not. Please sign with ~ 19:34, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah well, it was worth a shot. Shellheart 20:26, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blurr, blurr, blurr ALL AROUND x) Especially the haunch & the tail --

Oh, yeah, I know. I did it on a laptop, so, it's kinda hard to do it correctly. I'll be fixing this up and re-uploading within the next few days. I'll be getting internet access on my new laptop hopefully by Monday, so, please don't clutter up the section - I'll take care of it.  Law liet  Ta lk 21:45, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay x) --

Erase the waste around him, unless that's how you shade 17:07, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the nose gray, and smudge the earpink into the ear a bit. Nice job! 17:49, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot, and erase the waste as previously said. 20:14, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. So, does this look better?  Law liet  Ta lk 02:15, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a ton more. 03:34, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I sat her

e and blurred for at least an hour, and I still don't think it looks okay. It looking fine on GIMP, but when you upload it, it looks darker. I use Google Chrome, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it...  Law liet  Ta lk 13:35, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's still loose gray around his right ear, above his right haunch, above his right and left back feet, between his tail and haunch, on his left shoulder and on the tip of his tail. I advise just zooming in as close as you can and using the smallest eraser size in gimp. Shellheart 14:08, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Shellheart, you're amazing. Thanks for pointing that out. My eyes don't react well to bright light, so the brightness on the comp

uter is low, and that's why I didn't see it.  Law liet  Ta lk 14:30, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I tried my best, and also moved the ear pink...well...back up into his ear. It was bleeding down onto the head, from what it looked like.  Law liet  Ta lk 14:45, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Here, I circled wherever I saw some shading leaking out. I'd fix it myself, but as I'm still a kit I can't. Shellheart 15:52, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I'm still getting used to the project. Shellheart 16:05, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the nose and get rid of the 'glow' look Wild  fire  22:57, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please don't repeat what has already been said. Cloudskye is fully aware that she needs to remove the waste surrounding the image. There is absolutely no need to repeat what's already been said. If that's not what you mean, you really need to elaborate because if we can't understand it, there's no way Cloudskye can. 23:53, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I said sorry because I accidentally let the image slip into the slot below this one. And I repeated what I said earlier because she said she was having a hard time seeing what had leaked out, and had re-uploaded thinking she'd gotten all of the waste off. I'm only trying to help here, not bully anyone. You'll note above that she actually thanked me for my help. I may be new to the project, but I do know how things work here, and when to and not to say something, thanks. 01:11, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Smudge the earpink into the ear more. 02:18, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a place on the left side of the face that's light black, kind of gray. Make it match the rest of the face's colour. 02:31, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a place on the left side of the face that's light black, kind of gray. Make it match the rest of the face's colour. 02:31, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a place on the left side of the face that's light black, kind of gray. Make it match the rest of the face's colour. 02:31, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Moonflight, Shellheart. Please calm down. Moonflight, I'm grateful for Shellheart's help. My eyes are acting up, and it's really hard for me to see certain things. Shellheart, I understand you're new to the project, and don't worry. Their bark is worse then their bite. I'll be fixing the all the problems now, and re-uploading in a few.  Law liet  Ta lk 15:08, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay. Let's see here... I fixed the ear pink, darkened the nose and hopefully got all of the gray area.  Law liet  Ta lk 20:38, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Moonflight, if you were talking to me, sorry I didn't see those comments you're talking about. Cloudskye, blur the haunch shading a little bit. Wild fire  21:25, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the nose more gray. 21:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and I still see some gray around the charart. 21:30, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Misty. I must have missed some. Re-Uploaded. Shading blurred, nose darkened and gray eliminated.  Law liet  Ta lk 21:37, July 10, 2011 (UTC).

Brighten the tail highlight. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 21:58, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, you got everything! Awesome. I just wanted to help because my eyes are photophobic, too. I know how to work around it, though. Good job! 22:05, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you a ton. And re-uploaded. Snowdazzle, does that work for you?  Law liet  Ta lk 22:09, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks kinda thin....... Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:43, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. *singsong voice* Cloudy says this looks like crap, doo-dah, doo-dah. Cloudy says this looks like crap, oh yes it does. */end singsong voice* (xD)  Law liet  Ta lk 22:57, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't look like crap! The shading's pretty good, its just that there's still some gray around the charart on the left. 23:12, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded....*grumbles* This is killing my eyes.... >.> <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 23:32, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the gray might be gone, and the changes just might not be showing... 23:42, July 10, 2011 (UTC)L

Looks great! Blur the shading on the tail. 08:34, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

It is looking good! Blur the right haunch leg needs to have it's shading blurred a bit.

That was just me...forgot my sigge. 15:28, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q) ~Tweaked
I just tweaked the shading and darkened the base color. Original artist was Darkmoon25. Comments? 15:36, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the transition from the shading to base a bit. :3 16:03, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Do that ^, and erase the pink streaks coming from the earpink 17:10, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink is fine. It's just the style she made the earpink. 18:27, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit, overall it's great! -- 18:31, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Darken the shading, and define the tail shading. 18:37, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add light parts to the front leg/arm. 20:16, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and brighten the highlights, desaturate the eye colour a lot. 04:21, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Make it look more white than pale gray. Wild   breath   14:06, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The shading makes me scream. Seriously, It's horrible. 20:45, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading. 00:48, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

And the front paw shading. 02:19, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, I've been quite busy so far this week ^^' I'll have it up by tonight! 20:04, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink, and the shading is blotchy. Great job! <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  00:19, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I'm going to re-do this, the shading is just too crappy. I'll fix the earpink when I do that, because I thought fixing the shading was going to be a waste of time anyways xD But thanks anyway :D  02:49, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lionblaze (W) ~ Redone
Original artist:Bramble; Redone:Longhaired. The tail stripes suck. Comments? 19:37, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Add a nicked ear. And I don't see why he should be longhaired, was he ever described as that? 20:12, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I still don't think we need to redo these for pelt lengths, it's easy to just add the long hair, but whatever. Add shading to the back of his front leg/arm, blur shading on tail 20:17, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. '''He was described with long or fluffy fur or something. 20:19, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

They're no mention of it on his page. -- 20:35, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

There isn't? Its on the list of images that need to be redone. See Forum:Tweak Week 2 Nominations. 20:38, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

There's a tiny white pixel on the chest fur. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 21:24, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Oops. I'll fix that. xD 21:47, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 21:50, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur it, blur the stripes, and blur the earpink. 21:56, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Darkened the shading a lot, blurred it as much as possible, blurred stripes, fixed the earpink. 22:22, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Oops, just noticed that I named the file wrong. I'll change it. 22:49, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

There! Renamed. 22:55, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes look really odd, they're just big triangles and they're uber pixelly. 04:22, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

You should give him forehead stripes to match his kit art. Otherwise, I think it looks great. ^^ 22:48, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

You should use the same stripe pattern Wild  fire  22:53, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. It's turning out nice! 00:51, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading more or brighten the highlights. 01:14, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

No, his kit art is going to be redone, so there's no point in matching it. I'll fix the shading. 01:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded 01:35, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

How come when I look at the image, it's a stretched out version of his old warrior charart?<font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="5C3B7A" >100 ways to die no. 9: Being <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">ugly 01:19, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Uploading problems. Its the second file on the File page. 01:43, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lol. Its already been 24 hours with no comments to improve it...so its approved. See the guidelines, of course. xD 01:45, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

There's still no mention of it on his page. :/ -- 07:41, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I remember now! In one of the om books, he was called thick furred...I think. But its technically approved, so I'm not changing it to shorthair. 08:16, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The shading's too dark 15:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

No its not. I was repeatedly told to darken the shading, and besides, since this passed through 24 hours with no comments, its done. 15:51, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm just saying, I don't think it should be approved until there's a citation for it on his page. -- 17:34, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it is approved already, I'm just waiting for it to be archived. I'll look for a citation, though. 17:36, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I have the Citation, Page 170 or page 173, after the battle with the dog Toadstep says "Wow, your so good at fighting, you don't even have a wound on you!" Lionblaze replays "It must just my long fur." looking in the brambles he was just in he adds "But I think most of it came off in the brambles!" they then head back to camp. That a good enough Cite for you, Goldenpelt? :P Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 02:04, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Spottedleaf (A) - Redone
Original artist was Shimmerpool. I just redid it to match her description. Comments? 22:04, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the part on the chest where white meets the tortie colors. And darken the shading. 22:34, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

There is dark fur around only one eye I thought, and the MC is approved so I think it should be absent on this one Define leg shading a tad, or if it's all shaded add light parts. 22:36, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 15:15, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's a little loose shading between the back and front legs. 19:06, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 21:52, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink a bit so it doesn't stand out too much. 02:34, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Lighten the earpink a bit. 02:37, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can you smudge the brown fur more? Otherwise, it looks awesome! Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 15:02, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 15:20, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't the face supposed to be mottled? 15:30, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 16:54, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I have noticed that the circled bits are overlapping the lineart Dovey Newbie! 18:31, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten up the chest shading, if possible. Seems too dark. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 21:46, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded but the changes aren't showing yet. Dovey, could you be a bit more specific? I don't quite understand what you mean by "the circle bits are overlapping the lineart." 02:43, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think she means that either the lineart is blurred, or that there is coloring overlapping the lineart. 07:03, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 17:52, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I wasn't specific,I was in a rush.I meant that there is shading leaking over the lineart. Dovey Newbie! 15:23, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Lionblaze (A) - Redone
I just noticed some extra gray on both of my chararts so I'll fix that in the next upload. :P Original artist was Moonpelt1786. I just made him long-haired. 22:14, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Darken the shading a bit, and blur the white chest where it meets the tortie marks. 22:14, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Eh, Misty, didn't you meant that for Spottedleaf's charart^^? x) --

Yes, I did. :P I'll change it. And for this one, redden the earpink. 22:23, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I thinks so. It probbaly just appeared on here because I posted Lionblaze right before she posted that comment on Spottedleaf, so Lionblaze went first. x3 22:24, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur or smudge the markings more. 22:33, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Did you get the colors off of his original warrior version? I got my colors off of it, but yours looks lighter and browner than mine... 22:43, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

This is Hollowpaw's apprentice image. ??<font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="5C3B7A" >100 ways to die no. 9: Being <font face="Maiandra GD" size="2" color="B392D3">ugly 02:56, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused. . . Lionblaze is golden? 04:17, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Someone probably accidentally posted the image here in place of Roo's. I fixed it. xD 04:28, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 15:23, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

There's some loose shading above his back left foot, between it and the front legs. Shellheart 15:54, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 21:52, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

He needs a torn ear. Wild fire  22:46, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Also, this looks waaaay too dark. Lighten up a bit, will you? (I kid, I kid) But really, it's too dark in my opinion. 22:50, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I got the colors from his original warrior image like Mistystar, so I'm not going to lighten it. 23:23, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

No, I meant that the shading was too heavy, not that the color was wrong. Sorry, I should've specified. 23:24, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

If I lighten it it'll look a bit flat, so I won't change it unless others agree. 01:58, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the lineart thicker at the torn ear. 02:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 15:25, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the lineart thicker still at the ear. Why not try setting the pencil tool at one, and try it once more? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 21:45, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

That's how I did do it. It's just that when I made it thicker, it would look too fat. I'll try it anyway, though... :P 22:32, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if its showing the current version, but tthe ear isn't torn anymore. 23:14, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 02:47, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading and other than that, it looks good. 15:37, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading is defined enough... x3 17:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hollyleaf (Ki) - Redone
Original artist was Icethroat. Needed to be done as a long haired cat. So? What do you think? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 02:26, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Despite the excess, assuming you'll fix that later, darken the nose nad define the ear-pink. 02:27, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Frostheart, the ear pink is directly from the other image. I cut the ears and pasted them on, because I didn't want to ruin them. I'll fix the excess and the nose. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 02:30, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the light and dark parts slightly, although, since I can't see it on any black cat, it may be fine. 03:07, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Okay, I think I got all of the gray area. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk No I still see some. x3 I still see some near the bottom of her tail, the bottom of her feet, and along the edges of the fur on the right (our right) side. Also, blur the chest highlight and maybe add a highlight to her tail? 15:56, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, nope. Look, here's what I do. Make a new layer behind the image of the cat, and make it white. That will make the slip-ups stand out more.

Sorry, didn't mean for it to leak down. Shellheart 16:05, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the chest highlight. 01:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, there's still some faint waste by her tail, feet, and left side. Her left, not yours. It's really faint, but it's there. 22:12, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

And define the tail highlight. 06:17, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I didn't have a tail highlight, so I added one. I still think I suck at chararts. And thanks again, Shellheart, for the redlines, they help a lot. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 20:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded for the heck of it. I discovered that if I tilt my laptop screen, I can see the gray that I missed. There was quite a bit. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 22:35, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

lol. When I delete gray parts, I just color the whole background, then use the eraser tool at 100% and erase it all. :P Darken the tail shading. 23:17, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better? <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 23:35, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yup! It looks awesome! Maybe lighten the tail highlight a bit? Its still kind of hard to see, though it might just be the computer. 23:52, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Eh. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 00:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, all the gray is gone. It looks great! 01:10, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, no more gray! Is the nose supposed to be pink? 15:32, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Gray/black cats have gray noses. 17:01, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Jayfeather (A) - Redone
Mkay, I uploaded it but for me, it's showing a flat version of the original picture. xD So um, yeah. This ish bad. :3 Comments? 16:15, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

His eye looks white. Wild   breath   16:20, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

I got the colours from his medicine cat image. 16:30, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks blotchy. 02:36, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Enlarge the earpink a bit, make it more triangular, blur the shading and highlights on the tail, and the eyes look appropriate for a blind cat.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 02:53, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The fur color on the body looks a bit blue, but the tail looks gray. They don't match that well...and redden the earpink, too. 06:12, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

She said she took the pelt colors from the medicine cat image, so it should be fine. 15:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then blur the shoulder highlight a bit more. 15:33, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the haunch highlight, please. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 21:43, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think you guys are seeing the wrnog file...the highlights barely show in the file I see. 00:34, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Uploading issues again? Which file is it? 00:50, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Go to the image's details, I'm pretty sure you'll see the updated one. It'd be kinda small, though. Whenever I expand it, it shows the old version. xD 01:46, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looks GREAT, but to make the eyes look blind, maybe instead of just making the eye color really light, you could make the pupil a little lighter and make it blend into the eye color more. Here's a picture, I'm horrible at explaining. XD. Like that. To make it look kinda cloudy. You don't have to of course. XD ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:26, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Since he was born blind, his eyes wouldn't look any different from a normal cats'. -- 07:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmmm I guess. But that's getting kinda technical. I guess if we're gonna go by what would happen scientifically, the eyes should just be brightened then. *shrugs* As far as I kow, we've never really gone by that kind of stuff and neither has Erin Hunter. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:10, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. =) Just make the eye regular. 15:53, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I took the colours from the medicine cat again and darkened it. xD 17:44, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Crowfeather (W) - Tweaked
Original artist was Bramble I believe. Then Night shine and Sandy did tweeks on it. I just lightened it then toned down the highlights. Took me about five minutes. :) 17:56, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look a little dark to me, but that might just be because of his pelt color. 19:23, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: It was pretty dark. I lightened it. 21:18, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ear pink looks too...hurr durr. R-R-R-R-R-Redden it and reshape it so it wouldnt be so smudged. --
 * Please use proper English. I cannot find hurr durr in my dictionary. And don't stutter, either. You might want to get that keyboard looked at. -_- 23:57, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 00:14, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink and blur the shading more. 01:22, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think the earpink color looks fine, but straighten out the base of it a tad =) 03:47, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

the highlights are a bit too light. Where's the light source? 06:08, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

There is no light source. There doesn't need to be one, and all I did was lighten the fur and eyes and darken the highlights. I think the shading's fine considering it got approved. I will fix the earpink and darken the highlights. 00:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and shading a lot. 00:43, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then darken the highlights. 08:06, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded: Eww... 15:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you should make the highlights bigger. Then it would be easier to blur and darken. 15:59, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

When I darkened/blurred them, they became smaller. I think they were better before. 16:57, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Stoneteller (H) ~ Redone
I added patchy fur, darkened the eye color a tad, and whitened the muzzle a tiny bit more. The original artist was Nightshine, I believe. 18:08, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Remove the mud, since healers don't typically leave the cave. It was discussed here. 18:18, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

De-saturate the ear pink --

Also, it says he's a dark brown tabby...shouldn't the rest of his fur be a little darker? 20:01, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, darken it, remove the mud, and fix the earpink. 01:21, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

His chest looks yellow. 02:39, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should just re-do it. 06:02, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re-done. Meep. :S 15:28, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Its better...define and blur the shading, blur the stripes. The head looks a bit green. 15:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Give him a white muzzle (Poor Rainlegs xp ) Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:56, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Geez, it must be a pain to work on this. xD Redden the earpink. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:13, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are just giant triangles. It looks weird. 00:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looks AMAZING! ^^ The eyes should be a bit more yellow/orange though, they look almost brown right now and they're supposed to be amber. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:19, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Icewing (W) ~ Redone
Original artist: Bracken-; Redone: Lineart blurred, blotchy shading. The changes weren't showing, so I uploaded it as a new file. I'll delete it once it starts showing. 23:26, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Is there shading? I really can't see any... Good job! <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 23:36, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, there is shading, and I've darkened it a lot. Its just really blurred, and white. Thanks! 23:45, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ugh....I can't see good without my glasses. Darken the shading on the chest. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 00:01, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lol...am I the only person who can see it? :P 00:28, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is really blotchy. 00:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

It is? I can't tell. I'll just blur it more. 00:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I blurred it as much as possible, and I don't think its blotcy anymore. 00:46, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Nuuuuu, 'tis still blotchy. :3. I looked at the picture's details, and I'm pretty sure this is the updated one. But I could be wrong. Anyways, make the earpink colour lighter. 01:45, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe darken the base coat a tad. It's REALLY light, even for a white cat. It looks almost pure white. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:10, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Nah, look at her description. It says, "pure white she-cat with blue eyes". The more I darken it, the blotchier it gets. 07:31, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I remade the whole thing because it kept on getting blotchier and blotchier. Comments? 07:59, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Grr. I deleted the file, then re-uploaded it, but its still not showing. Oh well. The file is the one in the file page. xD 08:09, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink and blur it. 17:36, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit. 20:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (W) ~ Tweaked


I tore the ear, but the changes aren't showing, so you'll have to go to his history page to see the changes. Original Artist was Bramble. Oh, and comments? 08:49, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looks awesome! I changed the title for you to Tigerheart (W) ~ Tweaked. xD 08:52, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Oh thanks! =D 08:53, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

There's a little waste above his torn ear. Otherwise it looks great! 14:58, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, I removed the waste, I think. Anything else? 02:12, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Mistystar (L) - Redone
Original artist is Mousetalon :3 Meh, I really hate this xP I'll probably darken the shading and ear pink later. 18:08, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

You did take the colors off of her kit image, right? xD Blur the haunch shading. 19:10, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The changes aren't showing :P 19:30, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Fill in the whole ear with earpink. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  20:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

The whole ear doesn't always need to be filled. It's the artist's choice. But yeah, Nighty, I think you should darken the shading :3 21:37, July 11, 2011

All I can say is darken the shading and remove the spot above her ear. Also, it might just be me, but her eyes look a little unfocused. Her left eye looks like it's looking up, while the right is looking at you. 01:37, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh, changes aren't showing again x3 You'll know the changes are showing when there's no smudge above the ear :P 08:33, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think you should fill the whole ear with ear pink,but if you dont want to I think you should at least make it triangular and not an upside-down V shape.But thats just my opinion...do what you like.Dovey Newbie! 15:27, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (W) - Redone
The earpink needed to be reshaped and darkend, and the orginal artist was Sparrowsong. I cleared up some blurred lineart. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  21:16, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, the earpink is too pink, and I think there's some blurred lineart on the front leg. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 23:38, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- there's not much I can do with the blurred lineart without redoing the whole image. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  00:21, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Is it me, or the tail stripes darker than the rest of the stripes? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 19:04, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

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Unspecified Tabby Alternates
I know it was decided that unspecified tabbies would get chararts, but do they get alternates? 23:07, June 7, 2011 (UTC)Editing Warriors Wiki talk:Charart (section) - Warrior Cats Wiki - Erin Hunter, Night Whispers, Omen of the Stars

That is a good question. The unspecified tabbies would qualify to the cat's description until they are mentioned (if), But when they are mentioned we would make them a new charart, right? But would the charart already made be...? We wouldn't just...clear it from the page...right? 23:31, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know...what if the cat was confirmed to be a solid colored cat, but was mistakenly described as an unspecified colored tabby? 23:34, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

well I don't know maybe we could go by the colors the cat already had then add the most realistic ones? 16:44, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well what if the color was never mentioned? I guess we could go by the name, like say "Graystorm" was mentioned as a "tabby tom." Then I guess we could infer Graystorm would be gray. But if say "Bramblepelt" was mentioned as a "tom." I guess we would make him a solid colored cat, for no markings were mentioned? 17:18, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I also have another question for unspecified cats. What if they are mentioned as a "long-furred she-cat." Would they get an unspecified alternate? 17:45, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yes they should get alts, its no different from the acctual description, and as for the just long haired thing, it semms like they should get a default, but im not sure. 04:24, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

I personally don't think that cats like the one in the example should get chararts unless they were described with a pattern (like tabby, mottle, spotted, etc.). We'd basically mean giving all characters who weren't really described with a pelt color or anything like it chararts, and we've always been against that as far as I know. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:36, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree to that too. We should only give chararts to ones that were mentioned as a pattern, I assume. "A long furred she-cat" may not be qualified to get an alternate for it was just her gender and fur length mentioned. 16:14, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

For tabby and mottled alternates, though, I think we should do the alts as the color of the actual cat. For example, if a gray cat is mistakenly described as a tabby, it makes sense to make an alt as a gray tabby instead of a brown tabby default. 18:10, July 1, 2011 (UTC)

I always thought that to. Does anybody disagree? 20:01, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Should we have a vote? 01:51, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

New Project
Please comment on this: Forum:New Project. 01:11, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Warriors App
I was wondering if we're going to do chararts for the Warriors App. I don't have an iPhone or any of that fancy-shamnshy stuff, but I've seen screenshots, and they mention names they were known as. For example, for Leopardstar, she doesn't have a kit pixil, but a past name for her is Leopardkit, so would she get a charart? I know I can't reserve, but if we're doing it for them, I was going to put them on the Charaters Needing Art page, so somebody can reserve and do it :P 02:07, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ivystripe, this is a good question. I don't know what side to take on this. We have their names...but they weren't seen as that ranking. My guess is that they probably won't have chararts done, but, eh. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 02:32, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Cloudskye. They have just been named. They haven't been seen. Like Leafpool, she was named a queen but never got a queen charart. -- 02:35, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why not. Toadstep and Rosepetal weren't seen as apprentices; hell, we don't even have their names, but we gave them images anyone. We'd be hypocrites not to do Warrior App images. 02:37, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Moonflight. I think the characters in Warriors App should get image. 02:44, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I also agree with Moonflight and Rainwillow. 02:45, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Technically, She was seen as one. She was mentioned as a kit when Sunfish was trying to get her to get used to water, Isn't that good enough? It might not be in a book but it was still mentioned in the warriors world. 02:53, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I have no clue where that was mentioned.... I guess you're right, Splashpelt. If she was seen, then she gets one. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Me ow 02:57, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should do chararts for all cats on the app that were mentioned in a rank that they don't have right now. We've had plenty of chararts made when we only knew the name, and we didn't see the cat. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 10:59, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

That's what my logic is about this. For example, we never saw Leafstar's mother as a queen, but she got a pixil, and for Jingo's band of loners, some of the cats that died I think had descriptions, but we never actually saw them. I think we have to be careful though, because in the case of warriors, queens, and deputys, they have the same name, and I don't think we should assume they get a pixil for that if they were never seen as one of those ranks. If we have come to a concensus, give me the word and I'll start filling up the characters needing art page, if you'd like :)

-Oh, also, do we have to wait til midnight tonight to put the Crookedstar's Promise character on that page as well? If so I can do that while I'm putting in the others. 15:53, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

For the App, I think we should. Ivystripe is right. And on Crookedstar's Promise, this one stumps me. People reserved Sign of the Moon character on the fourth of April (around late evening/early night) but the rule has always been the day of the release. I would think, yes, midnight. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  16:20, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

They started reserving them at midnight on the server time. -- 16:49, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Actually I meant puting CP characters on the characters needing art page, so if somebody doesn't get who they want, they can find another cat to do. 20:24, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

I added a lot of characters to that. :P And, I think characters that are talked about as or written about in the warriors App should get characters. 20:03, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Mapleshade?
Ok so go to Mapleshade and it says shes a loner, formely thunderclan, do we have a cite for that? Or not? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 22:55, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

"I should have been ThunderClan's leader! But ThunderClan cast me out when I took a RiverClan mate... To be a loner when all you tried to do was to love?" Crookedstar's Promise, pages 479-480. (Also, why is this on the Charat page?) -- 01:00, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Probably so someone can do her queen and loner image on the characters needing art page? 20:47, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I guess so...but I'm not sure about the queen. She was never seen as a queen, right? 05:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

(That doesn't explain asking about ThunderClan, though) Her kits were still, well, kits when she was cast out of ThunderClan. -- 06:00, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, she was mentioned, but not actually seen as a queen, so she technically shouldn't get a charart, right? 06:25, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Toadstep and Rosepetal were never seen as apprentices, and neither were most of the apprentices mentioned in the leaders' sections of Secrets of the Clans, but they still have chararts. -- 19:19, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, but Stonefur was in the section, but doesn't have an apprentice charart. Should he have one too? 07:28, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

It'd be hypocritical not to. All the others have gotten ones, even though the only pre-OS ones we've seen as apprentices are Lionheart, Frostfur, Graypool, and Brokenstar. -- 07:32, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Good point. We could add it to the list of characters needing art. 08:38, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join?
Can I join the Charart? I was curious because I wanted to make Charart of Sandstorm as a kit.

Silvereye1 19:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)Silvereye1Silvereye1 19:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest! I can't add you because I'm not the leader, but I probably should tell you that first you have to be a kit for a month, and you can't make any chararts, only comment. :) Shadey  Iro Ni!  21:40, July 6, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Join Request~ Iceh3art33
I'm writing this for Iceheart, because for some reason it isn't working for her:


 * Please can I join and I really want to become the new deputy of Project Charart over time :D" Iceh3art33 23:59, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Couple Questions
I have a couple questions. My first one, I put up Leopardstar's warrior image for approval, and it is on the approved list, but is not in her character pixels. Do I continue to keep it until the end of Tweak Week, or do I take it down? My other question is, I am listed as a warrior on the membership table, but my vote doesn't end until the 10th. Am I a warrior or an apprentice(as of now)? <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  03:48, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, may I join the project?

Well if they told you it was approved, then add it to her page. Also, anon, you can't be added unless you sign your post. Thanks. 20:49, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Mintstar, it's in the pending approval section. So it isn't approved. All of those chararts were moved there for Tweak Week. 21:24, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, there was a version made in 2010 that was approved I think. Original But it doesn't match at all, and since you're already doing it, and you're a warrior now, yes...? I think you should do it as a tweak. Even though it was not nominated...details, details. 22:52, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think I may have been confusing. Rainy, it appears that someone had already made the image and it was on the approved list, not the pending approval. I know that the one I made isn't approved, but the one Ivystripe provided in a link is the one that apparently got approved some time ago, but never ended up in her character pixels. I understand why the ones up for approval got moved, but I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about a completely different image. Again, Ivystripe provided a link. <span style="color:white;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:green;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">Mintstar  This time for Africa!  02:43, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think it might have been from before. So, maybe it was made, approved, but then decided that it was unecessary since she wasn't seen as one until now, and then removed. 15:25, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Crookedstar?
Now, I know we don't usually base a cat's looks from their cover or manga apperances, but for Crookedstar's apperance in the short manga at the end, I think we should make his jaw look like that, and it's how it was described in the book. It doesn't really stand out, and it is described as fairly noticeable. Thoughts? 21:34, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should make manga alts, and there was a discussion about that, but I don't know the results. It is a great idea to make his jaw look a bit more twisted, but maybe not as exaggerated as the manga version. :P 21:45, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, plus, his jaw is twisted the wrong way in his leader version, anyways, and his kit version needs a twisted jaw (I don't know if that'd count for an alternate pixil or not, though). 22:32, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should have a twisted jaw kit be an alternate. The current one for Stormkit and the twisted jaw for Crookedkit. -- 22:36, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Goldenpaw. The jaw is hardly noticeable. Wild fire  23:26, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, thats a good idea. 08:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you all! 03:55, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Userbox Issues?
Okay, I've looked at the PCA main page with four different browers (IE, Firefox, Safari and Google Chrome) and I've noticed something about the userboxes. They all say that the user is a member of the project, but, doesn't show their rank. Did someone play around with something and mess it up? I'm fond of the userboxes, and I'm not sure how to fix them myself, or I would. And yes, I did put the code in right. xD <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 20:20, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that too. It's odd for the coding is the same (noting the rank and whatnot) but comes out as the diffrerent userbox. 03:43, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

To whoever is in charge, I was wondering if I could join?

Did you check the template for the userboxes? 15:19, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I did. It's not showing up. I'm not sure what's wrong with them. They're all showing the same exact thing, regardless of the code put in after. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 21:54, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thats strange... 23:15, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Join Request
I was wondering if I could join? I practiced making Graypool as a warrior, and it turned out really nice.

You have to sign with 4 ~ so we know who you are. Just repeat that symbol 4 times and it will sign for you. 23:34, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Like this? Patch101 23:59, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, like that. xD A lead will add you in soon. Welcome to PCA! 05:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Graypool (W) ~ New
My first image; Graypool as a warrior. Patch101 01:23, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, its tweak week, so you can't put up regualar chararts. 02:05, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can I put it back up for acception when Tweak Week ends? (When is that?) Patch101 02:28, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Check the guidelines for rules on posting. But for future reference, the image looks fine, just work on the eyes. She has no pupils. 03:15, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, when tweak week is over, you'll be added in as a kit I suppose. Kits cannot post chararts until they've served a month being that rank, then you'll be able to post chararts as a warrior :) 03:41, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

As an apprentice, actually. xD 05:41, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, error xD 16:43, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Manga Alternates
So, the forum for this suddenly stopped. Is there a decision? :3 07:07, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Apparently not. I'd like to know myself, as to what we're supposed to do. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 15:00, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Should we ask a Project lead? 15:09, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

It does make sense to make alternates for the mangas. The Leafstar in the manga looks completely different from her book self. 15:17, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I talked this over with nightshine while she was still leader, and it was decided that if theres a major change (like to solid black or white from a colour) then theu get alts. 19:46, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! But, if a cat who is shown as a ginger-and-white cat, such as Mapleshade, is illustrated as a tortoiseshell-and-white cat in the CP manga, should she get an alt? 19:55, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Probably not. 19:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

What about Leaftstar or Millie? 22:08, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why Mapleshade shouldn't. There's a big difference between a tortoiseshell and a ginger-and-white cat, but if it doesn't count, it doesn't. I think Millie should, but I don't know about Leafstar. Its not that big of a difference, since they both are tabby. 22:57, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

But I don't think cats that haven't been featured on colours should get manga pictures at all. Like that Schnuky cat or whatever her name is, she was just assumed to be brown, but we don't know what colour she is. Why should she get an image? 00:41, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

For solid cats, you really can't tell, but I think we should have manga alternates for tabbies and other marking-type cats. We make chararts for cats who are just described as "tabby", so why not for one that is illustrated as one? Its basically the same thing, since in either one, you don't know the color, but know the markings. 07:25, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

For cats who don't appear on covers, I saw we should just do ones if they look radically different - Mapleshade being a perfect example. -- 07:35, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

I have another question: What about cats INTRODUCED in mangas? Do they get an image? I think they should. 06:00, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Tweak Week
This is probably a stupid question, but why can only warriors tweak charats? Shouldn't apprentices get a chance? Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 13:09, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's because the warriors/senior warriors are more experienced, I guess. I never did understand that, because some of the apprentices here make wonderful chararts. <span style="background-color: #B7CEEC; -moz-border-radius: 10px 2px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Law liet  Ta lk 14:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. But, warriors have been members longer... 15:05, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

But some of the apprentices here were in PCA for a long time.... Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 15:11, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I was about to say that. x3 But I think it's just mostly because, like Cloudskye said, most apprentices aren't experienced enough yet. It wouldn't be fair if we let the more experienced apprentices make chararts for Tweak Week, but not any of the others. 15:15, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, like me for example. x3 Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 22:12, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can I Join, Please?
Hi, can I join the project please?

Of course. However, sign with a signature so the leads can figure out who you are to add you in. 07:12, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join?
I don't now how to shade on MS Paint, but I'll figure that out soon so please can you add me as a kit until I know? I'm also a total drama fan by my siginature. Go Team Noah 03:34, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

A lead will add you in soon. :) I don't think you CAN shade in MS paint, but you can use Pixlr, or download Gimp (it's free and safe, don't worry). And sign with four ~'s. Just type four of them at the end of your post and it will sign for you. Very simple. ^^ ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥

And Sumopaint is good also. Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 23:40, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Can I join?? I dunno how shade on GIMP. -- 01:33, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Sure! Just wait for a lead to add you in :) You'll be added as a kit, not being able to post a charart until you've served for a month :) As for GIMP, I reccomend if you do not know how to use that, to use Pixlr, Sumopaint or even Photoshop :)  02:54, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, can I join, please?
Hi, can I join as a apprentice, please?

Amberfur 21:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, you can join, just wait 'till a lead will add you in. But, you will be added in as a kit, kits can't do charats, but they can comment on them :) Snowdazzle¹²³ Lets count numbers! 23:39, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Kits
I have a question... when do the kits become apprentices? I think it was a month, but I don't remember. 03:59, July 12, 2011 (UTC)