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Leopardstar (Star) ~ Declined
Richard Nixon. 00:38, 17, 05, 2014

Possibly blur the spots on her flank a bit more? Looks nice. notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  00:39, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Thank you friend 8D 00:47, 17, 05, 2014

Good! notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  00:49, May 17, 2014 (UTC) I can't think of much else, anyone got something I'm missing?

Could you define the head shading just a bit? Jeez, her pattern is madness.

Still working? 19:56, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Declined due to the lack of work. Sorry, Mounty ;___; 15:23, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Ashfoot (Queen) - For Approval
First charart of approval started.. Sorry I don't know what I said. Anyway this is my first charart for approval, comments? :D -- Night Wolfy Moon  02:06, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Blur and add more depth to the shading. It looks quite flat. Love those eyes <3> 2:35 Sat May 17

Re-uploaded I made the shading a bit darker too. And thank you. The eyes are always my specialty :D -- Night Wolfy Moon   12:43, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Try defining the shading around the belly, it still looks a bit flat. Trunktail 15:50, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail and the back leg closest to us. The belly shading is fine- if anything, it just needs a little bit of blurring. Perhaps lighten the shading around the shoulder/head/chest to match the rest of the image (sorry for nitpickin g) 10:08 Sun May 18

Ok I'm doing that now, but you guys should keep in mind that I don't use GIMP I use Pixlr so I need to figure out how to do that now..... -- Night Wolfy Moon   13:56, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading more please. c: 18:26, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

My computer is acting up so I won't be able to fix it for a little while.. :( I will try to see if I can throughout the day though. -- Night Wolfy Moon   13:07, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Tom (KP) ~ For Approval
Here's Tom. Not exactly my favorite character. Comments? 03:10, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

The stripes get lost in the shading a bit, but they do look pretty neat.

Reuploaded. I don't think changes are showing yet. 03:27, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading and darken it a bit.

Reuploaded. I don't think changes are showing yet. 16:28, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Define the overall shading a bit more, but especially the shading on his right paw and haunch, and his face. I love his charart, amigo. 20:15, 05/18/2014

Darken it a bit more too. Not much, but just a little more.

Define the ear-pink 21:32, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Define the stripes some? They don't look so much as stripes as they do texture o3o 21:34, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The stripes are actually meant to be texture. Not sure if changes are showing yet. 22:04, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

If they are texture, then he needs stripes, since copper pretty much means ginger. 00:00, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I did not realize that. 00:35, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't the stripes be ginger? After all, it's just his muzzle that's described as moleskin-brown o3o 00:36, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Do the stripes have to be ginger? I probably could change them, but it will be hard without redoing the whole image. 18:34, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

If he's copper, and if it doesn't mention that he has moleskin stripes, sorry, but yes, they have to =P. However, you can click the box that says "lock" (if you use GIMP) so you can paintbrush in the ginger without messing up the stripes. Also, add some stripes, and try not to make them triangle-ly. Wish you luck on this one man! c: 18:36, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. There was no way I could have done the stripes without redoing the whole image. I originally made this on a school computer, which didn't have gimp and I wasn't able to download it, either. I was stuck using pixlr, and the only way I could blur the stripes without over-blurring them is if it was on the base layer. Now that I'm at home, I was able to restart using Gimp. I used all the same colors as before (except the stripes), but took off the texture. Hopefully this works. 19:43, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading some? 19:45, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine, but I'll change if someone else agrees. 19:48, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'll agree with Beebs- but remember, define doesn't mean darken, it means make it more visible, by whatever means you think is appropriate. I'm also not seeing very much light here and it looks like most of the image is in shadow? I think defining the depth might help here.

Reuploaded. 21:56, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused as to where your lightsource is coming from, can you define the lightsource please? 18:27, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I totally redid the shading because it was awful. That should have (hopefully) fixed the lightsource issue as well. 20:47, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Also, changes are not showing. 20:48, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Darken/define the stripes on the head? They seem pretty faint. 15:24, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I'm just gonna sneak in here and rename your file to File:Tom (Cat).kittypet.png because the page was named incorrectly therefore making the filename wrong. Since tom is also a term for a male cat and such, I renamed the page.

Whitethroat (Star) - For Approval
I'm not sure about how good this is, the earpink took FOREVER to get shaped right, any comments/questions/ideas? notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:16, May 17, 2014 (UTC) (yay, first charart in 3 years!)

Define the shading and eye depth, as well as add some white to his chest. 17:18, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-up (did it upload right?) notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:26, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

As for eyes, do you want me to darken the dark and lighten the light? I took the color from his warrior image... notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:27, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. Trunktail 17:36, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the shading and maybe thin out that white patch on his throat/chest area by a couple pixels on each side.

Re-Up. Does it look any different? I'm having problems with the file itself... notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:46, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger. Trunktail 17:51, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Tried to make the earpink a bit more like the other's I've seen, did I do it? notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:57, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

That's better, but there's some waste on the ear. <font color="34282C">Trunktail 18:16, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Got it! (right?) Thanks, I wouldn't have noticed it otherwise <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  18:21, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it has updated for me yet, but I can still see some waste. Also, could you bring the white on his chest up a bit higher. His other chararts have it going up to his chin. <font color="34282C">Trunktail 18:35, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Looks a little odd to me... is it just me again? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  18:47, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

The file needs to be named File:Whitethroat.star.png in order to go with the templates and pages. Please go back to the other file and then you can just reupload over what's already there.

Re-Up: Did I rename it right? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  19:02, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Nope. See the blue link I gave you? Use that filename and just reupload over it.

Okay, I think I got it THIS time. Is there anything else I could do to tweak it? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  19:05, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

There's still waste outside of his left ear. <font color="34282C">Trunktail 20:23, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Waste should be gone now. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  20:31, May 17, 2014 (UTC)

Add a little more depth to his eyes. 01:06, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his middle. <span style="">10:11 Sun May 18

Re-Up. Not sure how much I can work on this today, so here you go (for now) I'll see if I can get the computer back tonight if needed. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  13:08, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on his haunch, and add some depth to it. 17:42, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up. Re-did the shading completely. Look any better? <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  17:55, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

uggg, looking at this, the shading still looks weird. Anyone else think so? I may just re-do it. (again : <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  00:18, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit and this could just be me and it's my preference (it's up to you) but can you lighten the shading? 18:28, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. Thank you Duck. Looks better now. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  22:11, May 20, 2014 (UTC) (Are changes showing?)

Blur the shading more on the back, add some variation to the color/darkness of the shading on the white chest, add ear-pink in the turned ear and give him a gray nose. Also, check the linear on his left forepaw, it looks slightly blurred around the toes. 04:44, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re Ups. Are the changes showing? <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  21:09, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

They are. Darken the shading. This is looking much better than when you first started and I'm very impressed with your progress. =)

Re-Ups. Thank you Skye. I'm pretty proud of this. :) <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  23:56, May 21, 2014 (UTC) (I know I sound like a broken record, but is the shading okay now and are the changes showing or is it too dark?

If anything, it seems too light, so darken it, please. Also, define it, and smooth out the haunch shading. 15:25, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Ups. Better, Beebs? <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  19:14, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Mothflight (Kit) - For Evaluation
Why is it so smalllll? Anyways, yeah, I can't art, and I'm not entirely satisfied with the shading (Shading on white cats >3<) :c. Anyways I'm not sure if I should add highlights or not, so, yeah. Also, my computer perception is wacked lol. 17:17, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Not bad for a first-timer, Bird! Define and add some depth to the shading. 17:43, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Could you also blur the shading some? This looks nice, Bird. 17:47, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

This needs to named File:Mothflight.kit.png. You can reupload over the file that's already there, Bird- it was never approved.

Yeah, I know, but for some reason the old picture just kept overwriting my own. x3  23:56, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups, I kind of want to redo the shading entirely. 00:03, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

She's looking beautiful, Bird. Perhaps blur the edges of the shading a little more, and then give it some depth around the neck and legs? If you're not sure what I mean, you're more than welcome to come and ask me in the chat when you're online.

Reups yeahdefinatelygoingtoredotheshading  22:20, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading, it looks quite flat. <font color="34282C">Trunktail 19:39, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

I'm going to hold off defining it, because if I define it, means I'd have to blur some more, and what it looks like on my computer, that there's more shading than actual fur colour, so if more people say define it, then I will, but currently with all the blurred shading, I'd rather try and avoid it. 21:58, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Give the shading some depth and define the light source 02:00, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-ups I had to redo the shading, and added highlights, but I'm not going to darken the shading anymore, because if I make it any darker it just looks weird  16:30, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Thornclaw (Alt. A) - CBA
Comments? <span style="">20:33, 05/19/2014

Define the shading on the chest. Looks good! <font color="34282C">Trunktail 20:42, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

There is no shading on the chest ouo thanks amigo~   <span style="">20:46, 05/19/2014

Ah sorry, I meant the define the shading on the legs. This is what happens when I type late at night -w-' Le invitamos! <font color="34282C">Trunktail 20:59, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the shading on that shoulder (if anyone else agrees?)? Looks like a dark line to me, but then again, that's me. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  21:00, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Reups. I'd rather not lighten the shading at all. I did define the leg shading and so some other touch-ups. <span style="">21:24, 05/19/2014

Lighten it just a smidge, dear? It does seem a liiiiittle bit dark, but I think a couple percentages and stuff on the opacity bar would be more than enough.

Reuploaded. I tried making it a bit lighter than this (I lightened it by about 5%) and it just didn't look right. why is art hard. <span style="">19:32, 05/20/2014

Where is the light source coming from? 23:33, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

I based it off of Runningnose's appy. <span style="">23:38, 05/20/2014

CBA, then? 19:12, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, the the shading really doesn't make sense to me at all and it could be blurred and thickened some by the shoulders 23:54, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

scar ilu for interrupting that cba i'm serious girl you're the best!!!<33 Reuploaded. Oh my god, am I happy with this now. I completely redid the shading and changed the eye colour b/c I wasn't happy with the blue. Everyone, have a sexy Thornclaw. <span style="">20:56, 05/23/2014

Define the shading on the feeeeeets ouo

Reips~ shading on the feeeeeets has been defined c: <span style="">21:12, 05/23/2014

CBA again? This looks much better now, Ferk c: 15:26, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Mosspelt (Alt. Q) - For Approval
Here's miss Mossy's alter queen ego xP 18:20, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

The texture kinda gets lost in the shading. Maybe try shifting the color? Could you also expand the shading just a bit and blur it too? She's pretty and I love this color.

Re-uploaded 00:43, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Much better, dear. Now, define the leg shading on all four legs, and then I'd have nothing else to critique.

Re-uploaded 03:48, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

CBA?

Sorry to inturrupt, but, where's the light source? I can't see a clear one, though it may just be me. I'm so sorry ;-; <span style="">22:50, 05/23/2014

Re-uploaded 00:33, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on the closest back leg and this will be good. 15:26, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Princess (Q) ~ For Approval
not entirely pleased, that collar is difficult to put on this blank; comments? See here if changes aren't showing 22:08, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the belly/back a bit more. She's a mighty fine kitteh xP 04:37, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Reups thank you sweetie :D 15:32, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

She looks slightly darker compared to her other images, but this is probably just the base I'm looking at.

I colour-picked from the lightest areas of her kittypet image. 16:22, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Then it could be how you shaded. Perhaps tint it or use a darker brown if you're not using black? Idk, it's a tiny thing and doesn't make much of a difference- I'm making a fuss out of nothing big, so you've every right to ignore me. =P

Reups I've duplicated the layer and lowered the opacity on the double layer, so it's darkened but not too much. c: 21:50, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Lighten a bit of that upper back shading.

Reups I'm quite proud of this 22:53, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

It looks lovely, dear. Blur the belly shading where it transitions to the lighter areas- it cuts off a little too abruptly.

Reups thank you thank you 08:49, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading in the area between the shoulder and chest, and smooth it out a bit. 15:28, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Littlecloud(Alt MCA) - For Approval
Ugh I'm out of practice and this looks waaaay different now that I've uploaded it. Comments? 23:16, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Define and blur the shading? This is lovely, Duck~ <span style="">23:19, 05/20/2014

Is it me, or do the stripes get a little bit lost, so to say, in some places?

Re-uploaded 02:39, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, a suggestion, perhaps? If you have the spare time and want to do this, maybe take a size one smudge point and gently smudge the stripes to give them more of a flowing look? It's entirely up to you, but that's what I've done before and usually it comes out really well.

I actually always do that after i blur them but I'll do it more if it needs it. 16:22, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe just a little bit, if you don't mind? Also define the overall shading, especially on the feet.

Re-uploaded 01:39, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the shading a touch. Lovely work, dear c: 02:02, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded thanks scar c: 02:56, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere barring the tail. Nice job, Duck. 15:27, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Oakfur (Alt A) - Under Evaluation
Here ya go Neverendingmoon (talk) 23:24, May 20, 2014 (UTC)Rainfury

Dull the earpink, and smudge it - it looks too bright and strange for pale brown. 23:26, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Define the eye color and shading a bit more. <span style="font-family:Symbol; color:Purple; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">notquiterocketwildbokan, Talk to me!  23:28, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Reups Neverendingmoon (talk) 00:11, May 21, 2014 (UTC) Rainfury

Blur and smudge the < earpink <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  15:59, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

I fixed the section, and it should stay formatted as I have it. The file also needs to be named File:Oakfur.apprentice.alt.png. Would you like me to rename this for you?

Dull the ear and nose pink colour. Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 16:52, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Reups Neverendingmoon (talk) 21:13, May 21, 2014 (UTC) Rainfury

<--- ear still needs to be dulled a liiiiiiiiiitle more. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  21:14, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Reups Neverendingmoon (talk) 21:37, May 21, 2014 (UTC)Rainfury

Ear pink is still too neon-ish.

Reups Neverendingmoon (talk) 23:59, May 21, 2014 (UTC)Moony

This is more gold, and it should be pale brown. Also, the filename is still wrong.

Reups and I still can't name it right -_-". Could you rename it? Neverendingmoon (talk) 21:13, May 23, 2014 (UTC)Neverendingmoon

Renamed. There you go~ Just remember to only reupload over this file, not upload a brand new one.

May I withdraw I am going to work on Cinderfur instead. :3 Neverendingmoon (talk) 00:03, May 24, 2014 (UTC)Moony

Swift (Ro) - CBA
Hmmmm. I like the shading on this. This wasn't my original idea, but I didn't like how the stripes were colored on the other version I did...

Smudge the pale parts some? Wow she looks pretty ;-; 19:40, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I like playing with pale parts. 8D

Define the tail shading a bit, and this can go with a CBA. 00:35, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but I disagree. I think it's defined enough. I can see it just fine. o.o

Well then. CBA? Another fabulous charart, Skye c: 01:18, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Dawncloud (Star) ~ For Approval
comments? — <span style="">20:14 Wed May 21

Make her a little more on the ginger side? I almost forgot we finally had a cite for her actual pelt color and wondered why she looked different.

Her other images don't have texture and a pale belly o3o 23:05, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

reups — <span style="">00:08 Sat May 24

Another nitpick, but aren't her eyes supposed to be blue, like the other images? 15:28, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Fuzzypelt (Star) ~ For Approval
-weeps- Shading on this blank for me is awful. 21:48, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe define some light in -> ear so I can see the ear pink? =P

Reups changes may not be showing wow do you like it? 16:11, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Reups I just added another tuft to (his) left paw; it looked rather un-tufty. I also defined the shadin a bit on the tail, and filled in an empty pixel in his nose. 08:54, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on his shoulder, and maybe add a highlight on the chest? If there is, can you define it? 15:29, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Rainswept Flower (Star) ~ For Approval
Noooo not Rainy! She and Jagged Peak are meant for each other! I'm starting the Clear Sky's Haters club *murders Clear Sky* Anyway, Comments? <span style="">1:42 Thu May 22

Make the shading a little bit darker, and maybe add a few highlights.--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 01:44, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

There are highlights, and I don't want to darken the shading too much. I'll change it if someone else agrees. <span style="">1:58 Thu May 22

Alright. It was just a suggestion. ^^'--~Breezeheart~ (talk) 02:00, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Ooo, very pretty! :) If I can just make a small suggestion? The dorsal stripe is a completely diagonal line across her back, which suggests she is laying at a very odd angel. I would just suggest giving it a bit of curve, letting it follow the slope of the back. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 02:04, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Gorgeous!! Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink a touch and define the light on the tail a bit more 04:25, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

On Jay's suggestion, I think just move the stripe up a tad. Only a little. Give it a little curve like what Jay said, but not too much Those eyes are like sapphires o.o 16:15, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you, thank you, and thank you. <span style="">20:39 Thu May 22

It might just be my eyes, but it looks kinda maroonish/purple 22:21, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Psst, Hawk, if you want the exact colors, go ask Ivystripe- I'm sure they'll gladly give you the file for Rainswept Flower's rogue image. =)

Hmm, I color picked from the rogue, but I'll ask Ivy anyways. <span style="">23:13 Fri May 23

Wind (Q) - For Approval
Comments? Plain cats are a pain. 02:38, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Expand, blur, and darken the shading. I did the rogue, and the base pelt for her is around #AC866E, in case you couldn't get an accurate color because of shading/highlights. ^^

Re-uploaded Forgot to change the base coat, I'll change it next upload. 02:29, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

I see some shading leaking away in the area between her tum and her foreleg. 15:29, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Owl Eyes (Ki) - For Approval
Yep, I'm back already. Hey, I don't really have anything else to do. So why not do a Char Art of my favorite Ancient Cat? Comments? Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 15:28, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

What's with the tail? He should have a short-furred tail if you're using the short-furred blank.

Well I thought since in his description it says he has a fluffy tail, it should be included in his Charart. Should I change it back to shorthaired? Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 15:52, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

He'd only get the fluffy tail if he was named for it, and he wasn't. Which, speaking of being named for something, he'll need bigger eyes.

Re-ups, don't think changes are showing yet Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 15:58, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Wait, why would he only get the fluffy tail if he was named after it? It's part of his description from the book. Rock isn't named after his sightless eyes or his bald pelt, but his charart was edited to include them. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 16:02, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Remember that it's likely that Rock could see and he had a full pelt when he was kitten. And complete baldness and blindness is very significant, affecting his appearance /majorly/. Also, fluffiness isn't too significant, unless the cat is named for it; if a cat is named for it, it's gotta pretty significant enough for it to be on a charart. 16:07, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Because it's not a prominent feature, Jayfrost. With Rock, his sightless eyes and bald pelt are a major part of his description, so that's why he gets them shown on his charart.

if a cat has a fluffy tail dont they usually just get made longhaired?? 16:11, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

But according to the books, Owl Eyes definitely does have the fluffy tail. I guess I'm just a little confused why we would deliberately leave it out of the charart when he know that it's a canon part of his description. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 16:12, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Because it's not a major, life-altering/defining part of his description. With cats like Featherwhisker, Crookedstar, Owlstar, ect, they were obviously named for certain things, so that's why we include them in their chararts. Owl Eyes was more than likely named for his eyes (and we all know Owlstar and Owl Eyes are more than likely the same cat lmaO), so his eyes would be made larger, just like Owlstar's images. Featherwhisker's whiskers were tweaked, Crookedstar's jaw was tweaked, Tallstar's tail was made longer, ect. A lot of cats have been called fluffy before, and the most we've done is make them long-haired unless it's an extremely important and vital part of their description.

Just give him a long-haired blank unless he was specifically described with a short pelt and a long-furred tail. 18:06, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Is it just me or is anyone able to see the changes? Because on my screen the changes are still not showing after a couple hours. I fixed his tail and made his eyes bigger but for soem reason they're not showing up? Loud star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 19:21, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

I reverted the image to the second upload, which appears to show the changes. You must have uploaded a third time by accident.

Oh. Thank you :3 Loud  star  I see cats with stars in their pelts. 19:45, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light on >>> foreleg. 15:30, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Cinders (Q) ~ For Approval
Before you ask, the white isn't supposed to be pure white o3o. Comments? 19:03, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit more where the black meets the gray near the base of her tail. Other than that, it looks amazing :)~Breezeheart~ (talk) 19:25, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine, unless someone else disagrees, since it's the same style as the rest of the tail. 19:33, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

I think some of it is a little too smudged compared to the loner, and they /are/ facing the same general direction... Like, the transitions between the gray, darker gray, black, ect.

Which ones in particular? o3o 19:40, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Mainly the tail, but the overall smudges throughout the entire image.

re-up 20:04, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe just a do a little bit more of the smudgey-ness stuff on the belly?

re-up 21:26, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Whitewing (Queen) ~ For Approval
I hate shading white cats >.<  Color picked from her Apprentice image. Comments?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:36, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Unless you colorpicked from the image itself for the eyes, define eye color a little more please. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  23:38, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Her eyes were color-picked from her apprentice image. so i think it would be better to keep them as they are, so they're not as different from her other images.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:40, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Wasn't sure. <span style="font-family:Quicksand; color:Red; background:none; border:none; text-decoration:none; text-shadow:none;">Rocket, Talk to me!  23:41, May 22, 2014 (UTC)  also i can't see very well with this screen my apologies

Darken the shading on the tail a little, I would say, it's a bit hard to see in my opinion. .Ginger (talk) 23:47, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

The legs look pretty gray.

'''Re-Up. '''I tried uploading it over the old, but it kept messing up and showing the old queen image instead..

Anyway, i added darker shading too her tail and lightened her legs a bit.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 00:02, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Define the light and shading on all four of her legs, and add some depth to her belly shading. 15:31, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

One-eye (Q) - For Approval
Comments? All colours are from her other images. <span style="">22:29, 05/23/2014

Could you lighten that shading just a bit? I know it's artist's choice, but it looks kinda dark... 22:52, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a difference between artist's choice and the shading just being too dark for the pelt. I think in this case, it's too dark in general. Also blur the shading too.

Hawkheart (Star) ~ For Approval
I've never done flecks/mottles before.. so critique is kinda needed on that. Color picked from his Medicine cat image. Comments?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 22:54, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Don't you already have an image up? Neverendingmoon (talk) 23:08, May 23, 2014 (UTC)Moony

If you look in the comments for Whiteclaw's, I withdrew so i could work on this one instead.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 23:11, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Add some earpink, define the light on his legs and tail, and make the flecks and mottles match his other images more. I'd recommend asking the OA of one of them for the file, so you can get the right colours exactly and study the pattern properly. Also, this needs to be named 'Hawkheart.star.png'. 23:14, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading.

Re-Up.  Added highlights to his tail and legs, and i changed his mottles. Does that look better?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 00:07, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I think you should define the shading a bit more. Think about where your light is coming from. Is it coming toward him from the top left corner above the hip and tail? Then shade along the right edge of the face (our right) and the tops of the front legs, and the right of the chest and the bottom of the belly. If it's coming from the top right corner above his head, shade the left side of the face, the bottom of the front legs, shade a little on the left side of the chest, shade a lot on the lower left side of the back, and the tail. Just think about where the light is coming from and where the shadows would fall on Hawkheart's frame. Jayfrost-Of-RiverClan (talk) 01:57, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-Up. '''Does that look any better? I couldnt make it to dark, because it was starting to make his mottles blur a bit..~Breezeheart~ (talk) 02:20, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the earpink and face shading some. 15:32, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re-Up.  Added darker shading. I'd rather not define the ear pick anymore so it still matches his other images, since i color-picked it from his Medicine cat image.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 18:50, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define means to make it more visible, by whichever means you wish. It doesn't always mean changing the color. It honestly just means make it so we can see it- perhaps changing the lighting in the ears, shifting the style, ect.

'''Re-Up. '''Better?~Breezeheart~ (talk) 19:04, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Tallpoppy (Alt.Q) ~ For Approval
comments? — <span style="">00:48 Sat May 24

Do you mind possibly reddening the ear pink a little bit so I can see it a bit better?

reups, hows this? — <span style="">00:56 Sat May 24

That's better, thank you. Maybe give a little more depth to the belly shading? If you don't want to, that's cool with me. ^^ Another stellar charart, dear.

Also, define the shading on the face and chest, too. Pretty! 15:32, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Tangleburr (Ro) ~ For Approval
This is as much as I'm gonna be able to match it im so rry. All colours from the warrior. <span style="">04:29 Sat May 24

Woah, this is amazing! Maybe lighten the shading in some areas, it looks a little dark. .Ginger (talk) 12:40, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I'd really rather not. All shading opacities were taken from the warrior, as well as all the colours. <span style="">13:39 Sat May 24

Define the texture on the bottom half of the tail? Amazing, Bert. 15:31, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Cinderfur (Star) For Evaluation
Here ya go my fave ShadowClan deputy. :3Neverendingmoon (talk) 13:11, May 24,

Darken and define the shading.

Remove the white background. 14:43, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

I can't fix it I lost the file... Withdrawing. Neverendingmoon (talk) 15:13, May 24, 2014 (UTC) Moony

Snake (Ro) ~ For Approval
This lacks the pompoms we all know and love. Oh well. Comments? 14:31, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Darken the overall shading and define it, especially on the legs. I want the pompomps plz add them. ;-;

re-up sorry but they're not in his description ;-; 14:41, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Tansy (Lo) - For Approval
Eh. I tried. Does she have an official eye color? I never read The First Battle, so I don't know. If she does, tell me so I can fix it. Also, I gave her texture, she doesn't have random shading. 17:37, May 24, 2014 (UTC) She has no cited eye color that I'm aware of, so you can use whichever color you want. As for texture, are you able to make it flow with the fur a little more?

There's no way I can really fix it at the moment, I could get rid of it though. 17:50, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

Define the shading on her hind leg thats going forward, and add some depth to her eyes.~Breezeheart~ (talk) 18:54, May 24, 2014 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' 19:05, May 24, 2014 (UTC)