Talk:Bramblestar/Archive 1

One thing

 * Family tree reads,

TigerstarSasha - Hawkfrost     Mothwing          Tadpole

When was "Tadpole" mentioned? He's not in the family things, or anything. HollyfireGreystripe's Den 02:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

In the "Return to the Clans" cover picture. --!Mal lin ois  02:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh. HollyfireGreystripe's Den 02:31, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

He's also in the second warrior manga book of Tigerstar and Sasha.

No, he is in the third! He was never mentioned in the second book (Escape from the Forest)!- Sunnyfrost

Family
is the 'Family' Ok? Brambleclaw14 15:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually, no. We don't need the descriptions in the family.

Ok thanks. Brambleclaw14 19:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Why is tadpole mentioned when Return to the clans isn't even outyet?

Why do people say Swiftpaw is Brambleclaw's half-brother? I have no idea why people think they are related! =^-^= 9:25 a.m 5 - 9 - 10

Swiftpaw's mother was Goldenflower and so was Brambleclaw's

Tadpole dies before sasha went to the clans!!!
I read it tadpole drowns in an abondened twoleg place the pipes burst and tadpole saves mothwing and hawkfrost from drowning by pushing them up but then he couldn't save himself. It's really sad...nope, its not, its awesome he dies!

okay if it goes like this

Swiftbreeze + Adderfang = Leopardfoot                    Redtail

+                            +            Pinestar                       Unknown =                             =            Tigerstar                     Sandstorm +                            + Goldenflower                    Firestar =                            = Brambleclaw        +    Squirrelflight

so Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight are related?

p.s. i only did Redtail and Leopardfoot so that you could see that they are related.

Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight are not related. They're not mates anymore. Oops! Yes, they are related. Moonshadow1013 posted it down there. ♥AppleDapple♥ 01:29, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well, acually, if Redtail is Sandstorm's father (Which I don't believe at all) like the Erins say, then Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight would be distant cousins xP  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:33, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Tadpole
Yeah, he sacrificed himself to save his brother and sister!

--Wolfbreeze 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Why is Tadpole's talk here?! Hello? AppleDapple :3 21:51, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Who in Starclan is Tadpole?! Jayfeatherslover55 02:41, June 15, 2010 (UTC)Jayfeatherslover55

Dead?
I read that Brambleclaw will die in the next series along with Firestar and Leopardstar. Is this true? Firestar and Leopardstar have been confirmed but I'm unsure about this guy.

Leopardstar died somewhere between The Fourth Apprentice and Fading Echoes. Willowheart1231 20:08, August 5, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

It's been confirmed that Brambleclaw won't lead ThunderClan. Fidelis359 08:51, September 5, 2009 (UTC)Fidelis359

Good! I HATE Brambleclaw. I think that Graystripe should become leader. Who will?--74.107.120.99 16:57, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Graystripe's a little... old, IMO. But yeah, he'd be a good choice. pine dapple   11:24, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw is going to...die? He would be a very great leader...- Sunnyfrost

I agree with you, Sunnyfrost. Willowheart1231 20:08, August 5, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

''Yeah Brambleclaw dies because he dies of bleeding from his eyes, but he loses too much blood and dies or something like that. But i hear that when he's dying, he forgives Squirrelflight!! Yeah!!! \m/^_^\m/'Totallytawnypelt99 17:44, June 12, 2010 (UTC)''

''Wouldn't it be sweet if Squirrelflight saved Brambleclaw, or at least was there when he died, and then he forgave her? I think Lionblaze should become deputy. Firestar knows about his powers, so Lionblaze would definetely end up leading Thunderclan, unless Tigerstar or another Dark Forest warrior killed him first. I think that Tigerstar will kill Firestar in the big battle between Starclan, the Dark Forest, and the Clans. Then as Firestar was lying in the patch of grass that was about to become his death bed, Lionblaze, Jayfeather, and Dovepaw crowded around him, and he gave them one last prophecy. Sorry, I'm kinda off topic... Jayfeatherslover55 02:51, June 15, 2010 (UTC)Jayfeatherslover55''

Umm, guys, I think this belongs in a blog post, not a talk page 'Sky wis h   I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 03:10, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

''Brambleclaw would not make a good leader. i'm glad he's going to die! 'Warriors. 17:39, August 3, 2010 (UTC) Mistycloud''

Ok, I know i'm not Bramble and stuff ( or even a member ) but can this be taken to the forums, please. ~ILUVSMURFS

Brightspirit's Mercy
On the the page it's says Warrior plays and then has Brightspirit's Mercy what is this? Brambleclaw14 Talk 16:48, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

There is a play you can download off the offifical site that is called Brightspirit's mercy, which Brambleclaw appears in. ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 19:45, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah OK. Brambleclaw14 Talk 08:47, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Replying to: Dead?
Ok heres the facts: Firestar will probably not die since he is basically the main character if u read the brambleclaw and lepeordstar will die, that is not a proven fact, its immposible to know that because the book is not out!!!!

Well, Firestar does have only 3 lives left (as of The Fourth Apprentice) so it is likely he will die. And Erin Hunter has confirmed that Leopardstar will die in Fading Echoes. Maplefern

Please answer
I am also posting this on Swiftpaw's page

In A Dangerous Path after Swiftpaw dies, it is revealed that Swiftpaw was Brambleclaw's and Tawnypelt's half brother. I actually found this in thh book, not on the internet. I am trying to work on a new family tree for Swiftpaw, can someone tell me who swiftpaw's parents were, and give me proof from the books. Thanks much appreciated - Aurorablaze

Swiftpaw's mother is Goldenflower, is father is unknown.--Dragonfrost 15:11, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Please answer
I am also posting this on Swiftpaw's page

In A Dangerous Path after Swiftpaw dies, it is revealed that Swiftpaw was Brambleclaw's and Tawnypelt's half brother. I actually found this in thh book, not on the internet. I am trying to work on a new family tree for Swiftpaw, can someone tell me who swiftpaw's parents were, and give me proof from the books. Thanks much appreciated - Aurorablaze

'''Swiftpaw's parents were Willowpelt and Patchpelt. Check for yourself on the warrior's website (the family trees). =^-^= 9:31 a.m 5 - 9 - 10'''

you know what page it was on? Brambleclaw14 Talk 04:39, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

yep page 225 it quotes: "Swiftpaw's mother, Goldenflower, sat next to him, while Bramblekit and Tawnykit, Swiftpaw's half-brother and half-sister, looked on with wide scared eyes".

I am also trying to find out who Swiftpaw's father was.

And also whenever i try to modify a family tree, it doesn't work.

you are a IP right? Brambleclaw14 Talk 15:21, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

We don't know Swiftpaw's father's name. He might be a white cat, as Swiftpaw is white. -- Jay feather 15:47, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

He might be. Swiftpaw is actually black and white but we cannot make any assumptions or guesses as to who his father may be due to pelt colour as the Erins have admitted themselves they do not pay attention to genetics. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:13, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

ahh...sorry Aurorablaze did not see your sign :/. Brambleclaw14 Talk 07:19, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I think Patchpelt might be Swiftpaw's father, but u guys r right, we should not assume based on pelt. But I need some help deciding something, ton make this tree accurate, we need to add Firestar, Sandstorm, Leafpool and Crofeather to the members becuz he is Squirrelflights mate and she has a sister and her sister had a mate. Skystar (Skyfeather) hasn't gotten back to me yet about it. me Eualia got into a fight about it and i brought it up with her to see who dhe agrees with.--Hawkstar of Thunderclan 10:59, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hawkstar, that would make sense if they were human, but for cats they don't have in-law relationships, since they can have many mates and don't take it as seriously as us (i.e., sometimes even if two cats have kits they aren't very close to each other) so we generally don't post those in-law family members. It would also make the pages much more long and confusing, so... yeah. ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock!

Then should we just do it by mate?--Hawkstar of Thunderclan 16:09, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

I thought that Graystripe was related to Swiftpaw?

Picture
Needs kit and apprentice picture --Aurorablaze 00:40, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Pictures are done by Project:Charart, and they will be done eventually. There's no use in posting this on the talk page. Insane Can't Wait!!  02:57, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

ewww!!
EWWWW!!! Brambleclaw and Squirrelflight are blood related!! Sandstorm's the kit of Redtail and Redtail is the younger brother of Leopardfoot, Tigerstar's mother!! THat's just gross!! -Moonshadow1013 23:04, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

OMGOMGOMG I HAD NO IDEA!!! That is really pathetic.--74.107.120.99 17:00, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I wish the Erins had thought that through. But Whitewing and Birchfall are second cousins, that's weird too. Don't get me wrong, I love them! But still--Nightfall101 23:11, November 20, 2009 (UTC) AND Ashfur is squirrelflights uncle ( sandstorms siblings r ashfur and ferncloud) GROSS!

Acually, it never says wether Brindleface is her mother or not--Nightfall101 00:34, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Really, I'm pretty sure that Firestar is related to nearly every cat in Thunderclan. So that would make just about everyone blood relatives. It's really long and complicated, but on the family trees at [http://www.warriorcats.comand www.warriorcats.com]and] using some of the cats from Bluestar's Prophecy, you can trace relations to Spottedleaf, Bluestar,Graystripe, I'm pretty sure Mousefur and Longtail, and multiple cats in other clans.

I'm just wondering: what does this have to do with Brambleclaw's user discussion? yah...-- MossScrooge Bahumbug! 23:25, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

The trees on Warriorcats.com won't right, Mosspath do you meen what does this have to do with Brambleclaw14's user discussion? Brambleclaw14 Talk 09:02, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

What, Firestar? He has no ancestors in ThunderClan, only kits, grandkits, nephews, great neices and such.--Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 09:12, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I think this is turning into forum-type discussion, because it's more of a debate than talk about the page now. If you want to continue it you can, just do it on the forums or talk pages, please. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included 16:02, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

OMG! I cant belive that Squirrelflight is related to both Ashfur and Brambleclaw. That is like so gross

Please stop adding random chatter to the talk pages, this belongs on a forum. <font color="#CC0000">insan <font color="#FF6600">TA <font color="#FFCC33">STE  <font color="#00CC33">THE  <font color="#0033CC">RAIN <font color="#6633FF">BOW  <font color="#660099">eu lar  16:05, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Its veryy distant and they dont have there own kits and almost all the mates are related some how. - Shadowshine

Brambleclaw-dead?
How is Brambleclaw not going to be leader after Firestar? the erins alreay said they favourised him. Clarrissa My Talk Page 09:14, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I know it's been confirmed somewhere but I don't have the link off the top of my head. Bramble will apparenty not suceed Firestar. ∑✐+ᖱ = ᶊ⍶ᵰᗫᎽ  09:17, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I'd really kind of like it better if Graystripe became leader next. I love Brambleclaw, but I'm really mad at him for dumping Squirrelflight xP And I just think Graystripe was sort of destined to be leader of ThunderClan. Whitestorm did request to Firestar that he make him deputy right before he died.-- Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 09:27, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

So true! I think that when Graystripe got back, with Millie, he should have been made deputy again. GO GRAYSTRIPE!74.107.120.99 16:46, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

No, Graystripe's too old. It'll probably be Lionblaze (sigh). I hope it's Cinderheart, though. ALL HAIL CINDERSTAR! <font color="#696969">Grizabella: <font color="#dc143c">The Glamor Cat  01:44, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is turning into a forum type discussion. Please take this discussion to talk pages or the Proboards forums.Җ Ѭ ѳ ѥ  ѯ 08:16, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

It says in the Night Whispers discussion page that Brambleclaw will be ambushed by a group of rouges, his eyes will be clawed out, and he will bleed to death. D*: Jayfeatherslover55 02:44, June 15, 2010 (UTC)Jayfeatherslover55

Squirrelflight
In some way,Brambleclaw is related to Squirrelflight. Can someone add her on his relations page? Clara My Talk Page 14:36, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Well, we need citation to add it in. Do you have any?-- Moonflight Come The Dark Side. We Have Catnip... 23:19, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Is there any chance that Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw might be mates again173.35.87.133 00:07, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yep, his dad's uncle was Squirrelflight's grandfather. Oh, and anon user, that's foum-type, if you want, post it on a forum. Clar ris  sa! :)  17:59, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Guys, what's a forum? I sound really stupid, don't I? Jayfeatherslover55 02:46, June 15, 2010 (UTC)Jayfeatherslover55

The real Bramblepaw
At the beginning of A Dangerous Path, there is a dedication saying To the real Bramblepaw. Anyone knows what does this refer to (e.g. was it mentioned in a chat, facebook page etc)? <span style="background-color: #705EA0; -moz-border-radius: 12px 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Helix talk 08:21, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw's appearance was based off of one of Cherith's cats, Bramble, I believe. Let me see if I can find a link. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 08:47, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

"Mistyleaf: Cherith do you have any cats? CherithBaldry: Yes, I have two cats, Brambleclaw and Sorreltail. You know what they look like if you have read the books!" There we go. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 08:50, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Many thanks! Adding it to the Trivia section. <span style="background-color: #705EA0; -moz-border-radius: 12px 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Helix talk 06:15, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I have figured out...
Okay I have figured out that as far as this...           Now its officail that Brindelface is Sandstorms mother...

Pinestar+Leapordfoot=Tigerstar                           Redtail+Brindelface=Sandstorm                                                      Shadowshine 00:56, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerstar+Goldenflower=Brambleclaw                  Firestar+Sandstorm=Squirrelflight                So if they are related then they are very distant cusins.

Yes, we have established this, but it has nothing to do with improving the article. Please take it to the forums. Oblivion Got it memorized?  02:52, July 16, 2010 (UTC)