Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Sorreltail - For Approval
Heres a picture of Sorreltail. What do you guys think? Sonia 1000 19:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice work,but it kinda looks funny.--Jayfeather113 21:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it looks rather nice, I think. My only suggestion would be maybe some shading and again maybe some working to make a more fur-like texture... but other than that it looks very good. Hmmm... As for approval, though, I think it's fine. Anyone disagree? Gorse 21:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok I'll work on it a little bit more, and then maybe I'll put it up if Gorse approves Sonia 1000 21:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Just curious, but what program do you use to do these? Eu ( Talk! Contribs ) 23:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Here, I uploaded a better version of Sorreltail. It's still horrible...but at least it's an improvement :) !! I'm not sure if I'm done yet though...please tell me your thoughts. Gorse, what do you think? Sonia 1000 02:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I like it. For some reason, my computer's colors are permanently wacko, so I can't see any deatils on the Tawnypelt pic', but I can see this one perfectly. It looks pretty good, but honestly, I liked the old one better. This one looks....blurry, to me. *shrugs*, maybe it just looks furry :p Eu ( Talk! Contribs ) 13:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, i was trying to get a furry look...I used MS Paint for this. Should I put it on the page, Gorse?Sonia 1000 00:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Tawnypelt - For Approval
Image of Tawnypelt. What do you think, Gorse? Kitsufox ( Fox's Den ) 18:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I know I'm not Gorse, but I like it. Eulalia459678 ( Salamandastron ) 19:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. =D Dang, I need to work on this more. I'll see if I can work on some pixel bases in the same style as Sandstar soon, but I'm busy with NaNoWriMo, Ww and so on... But, I digress. Good job! Gorse 04:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow!
What a neat idea...custom images! I thought the idea of this project was that people would have to go scavenging into the depths of the net in search of free cat images that look like Warriors characters...lol. That would have been odd.

Wolfheart 01:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I need to come here more often... Anyways, no, we are not looking for images that look like the characters. We want a uniform appearance for all our Wiki pages. We still need bases for kits, elders, and the different ranks, that match the style we currently have, or else a whole new set with everything (though the former option is preferred). Gorse 21:44, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Squirrelflight - For Approval
Not very detailed but Squrrielflight isnt very detailed anyways.--Tallstar 04:40, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

There's enough info on the character for shading to be something that SHOULD be in the pixel, and markings known for the character are definitely missing. Kitsufox Fox's Den 00:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Cloudtail - For Approval


Cloudtail isnt very detailed either but hey someone has to do him and until they make a template for Clan leaders and Medicine cats I cant make Leopardstar, Tallstar, or Leafpool...or Littlecloud anyway yeah its Cloudtail.--Tallstar 04:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Needs shading. Just because the cat is solid doesn't excuse a flat color. Kitsufox Fox's Den 00:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

NEW LINE ART --
To tell the truth, I don't like the current lineart at all... Gorse, Eu told me to make new lineart. In fact, it will be more organized this way because each gender, clan, and rank will have different poses. Leaders will have their own unique poses though, same with any cat that needs one. Kittypets and loners will have different ones as well.

Coloring them is something that I think I should just do. I know it is a load of work, but I am fine with it. It just looks better, in my opinion, if all of the pictures are colored in the same style. I have noticed that the ones that are colored do not have cell shading or the 'fur' suggestion. I know how to do both. People can color them and then I will add cell shading or perfect anything.

Here is the long-hair she-cat for WindClan *warrior or queen* http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Long_hiar_she-cat_WindClan_copy.gif

Here is the short hair she-cat for WindClan *warrior or queen* http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Short-hair_She-cat_1_copy.gif

This is not my best art... Anyway, I haven't been drawing for a long time. Not cats either... So ya. Those are what I have so far. I will keep you guys posted... I am going to have a ShadowClan toms done by... monday? I am probably going to delete those to WindClan ones and then redo them. They don't really match what i drew for ShadowClan D:

Sketch -- http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/Image:ShadowClan_generations_sketch_tom.jpg

--Nightwing8 16:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't really think we're looking for Clan-specific lineart, much more rank-specific (kit, apprentice, warrior, Clan leader). Also, your sprites don't match the current style, I'm afraid. Style is something we want to keep consistent, as far as lineart is concerned. Gorse 02:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

That is the whole point. The current style shows no personality, no individuality at all. There is no way that you can tell female from male unless you look VERY closly and at their eyes. You can't even see their eye color. Anywho, the current lineart has no shadings. Therefore, shouldn't we get new lineart? Having more personality will definately make people want to look at the pictures at least a little bit. In fact, my friend saw one of the current linearts and hated it instantly. That was before I said I was going to make new ones. Anyway, only very few have been approved. Does it really matter if we change?

Clan specific, rank specific, gender specific. Those are my catagoiries. So there would be for normal ShadowClan warriors alone 8 outlines, being Clan specific and Gender specific as well as Rank specific. If a cat happens to be a Deputy, I will make a completely different lineart for that one character. I don't care about the amount of work shown in this, so don't convince me otherwise. For medicine cats and their apprentices as well, that will happen.

Forget about what I said on your user talk page. I am going to go to the forum regardles if you respond. I am going to the voting booth and pleading my case as which we should have noew linearts. I will also go for being leader. Good day to you!

--Nightwing8 17:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes. I would also like to say that if I kept the same style as the current, I would be a bad artist. Even worse than I am now. Now this is not just about something that will make WW better. It is about the sake of art. --Nightwing8 17:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Personality and individuality wasn't one of the exactly important criteria when we started looking for lineart over a year ago. Instead, we were looking for realism, consistency, and neatness. I would be happy to discuss the possiblity that the Wiki's needs have changed with the times, but I'm not going to just throw away old criteria just because new candidates for official lineart have been presented. As for shading, that would be a matter we expected people to work on while they were coloring in the cats, not a part of the lineart itself. And the lineart isn't there to be looked at as masterpieces. They're to candidly show the eye and fur color/pattern/length of each cat, nothing more. Not everyone will like it, and should your art be chosen to replace it, not everyone will like your art either. That's just part of what comes with being an artist.


 * The main worry I have concerning too many categories is the fact that they won't be user-friendly. New members to the wiki and project CharArt will very likely be intimidated by a huge list of different lineart for different clans, ranks and so on and so forth. It's much easier to keep a simple list of rank-specific lineart, so rather than sorting through a large list for the right template, they can simply find the right rank, pick the correct gender and go. Also, creating character-specific lineart will make this process even more complicated. Your last line confuses me though. Are you saying you don't care how much work you put into it? That you may only put in a little work and you won't care? Or are you saying the opposite, that you don't mind putting in a large amount of effort?


 * Nightwing, The Warriors Wiki is an encyclopedia, not an art gallery. While I hugely support art in all its forms, occasionally certain factors should take precedence over individual expression. Here, uniformity, consistency and realism are among those. I am not saying your lineart is bad. I'm simply saying that, for what the Wiki is looking for, they may not be a good fit. In my opinion, we shouldn't sacrifice the Wiki's values just for new lineart.


 * Feel free to take it to a vote. That's what the Wiki is supposed to be about, community building and working together. However, given how you are going for leader, I will just warn you this: The manner in which you have treated me today puts me in high doubts about your suitability for a leadership position such as the Project leader of project CharArt. You have not treated me with any sort of respect. Instead, you tell me bluntly to my face that you think I'm doing a lousy job, and that you think you can do a much better one. I feel that I have been treated rather rudely, just because I have not fallen over myself to congratulate you on fantastic lineart and admitted it directly into accepted bases. If you had tried to discuss this calmly and respectfully with me, rather than taking it for granted that I would accept you and reacting harshly when I didn't, I would be much more open to your suggestions. You've lost my vote, when the time comes. Gorse 23:27, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Squirrelflight - For Approval


I've tried creating a new version of Squirrelflight, this one has slightly more texture. Does anyone know of any specific things that are missing? (such as birthmarks, scars, ect.) I could easily add them and reupload the picture if need be. ~ Bella   Swan  14:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Shading would be nice.... --Nightwing8 19:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)