Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Archive 90

Can i please Re-Join?
Can i join please i was a member before but i wasn't on for alone time so  can i please Re-Join SkyFeather01 (talk) 14:09, May 18, 2015 (UTC)SkyFeather01

May I please join this project? If I can, then are there any websites I can use to make art without downloading anything? Thanks, Leafpool09

Jay and Dove
Jayfeather should be resembling Jay's Wing, right? Since he's Jay's Wing's receneration, and that they're described to look the same? The same goes for Dovewing. But Jay's Wing is long furred while Jayfeather is not, and Dove's Wing is short furred while Dovewing is long furred. I totally might be wrong 07:41, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

They /look/ the same. Pelt color and all. Doesnt mean they have to be exact replicas. Its their /soul/ that was reincarnated. Storm &#9835;  13:14, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Um, perhaps you could try and find cites for that, actually. If they are described to look exactly the same, then I will agree. 13:35, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

This  says they're the same cat :P 13:44, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to say thats an unofficial forum. We mean something from the erins themselves or the book. Storm &#9835;  14:07, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

they're fine honestly, a reincarnation doesn't always mean identical appearances (cinderpelt and cinderheart for one, regardless of whatever the hell was going on there, she was basically treated as such.) 18:53, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah. Unless they were specifically called identical, then we shouldn't tweak/redo it. 13:02, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Rank up from Kit to Apprentice?
I'm so sorry if this was listed anywhere, but I didn't see anything that applied to my question. I'm listed as a Kit on PCA, and I know you usually submit a charart For Evaluation and then you rank up, but I'm wondering if I have to do that since I submitted a picture For Approval. It hasn't been approved yet, but once it's been approved or declined do I have to submit another art For Evaluation, or can I rank up to an Apprentice now? Oh, and to clear any confusion there is an apprentice named Raven, but that's not me, I'm Raven''pelt. '' 14:32, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

You usually rank up when you get one image approved. And then three for apprentice to warrior and be nominated. Storm &#9835;  14:35, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

And also the leads will rank you up, so dont worry Storm  &#9835;  14:37, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, thank you so much for clearing that up! 15:07, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Join Request
Also, are there any mentors open to teaching me? ^^;; -- Nachtide  The  Wikian   Squad 19:38, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

You can check the mentor page after your accepted. I'm actually looking for an apprentice so put up a mentor request and I'll have a look. 06:28, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Mentor Program
It seems that the head of this program has left the wiki. Many mentor applications are left unhandled, and so are the apprentices' application. There probably needs to be a new head of this program to make this move smoothly. If I offended anyone, my apologizes. 00:18, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with you, honestly. Duck /has/ been inactive for awhile. If not a new head, maybe a co-head to handle things while the other is gone? Just an idea. 02:43, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I agree, some requests have been there for a long time and the table needs an update too. 04:11, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

If someone just wants to take over, I wouldn't have any issues with it- it doesn't even need to be a lead- just a member who has experience with tweaking and meets the qualifications.

If thats the case, how would we figure out who will take over? Personally, i'd like to have this position- if thats alright with everyone else, of course. Nonetheless, it really does need updating. 20:38, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

If you want to, Breeze, then go for it. If someone else wants to help, we can do the co-lead thing we had before. Just go ahead and update it- I won't get angry.

I could help, if you like 06:30, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it, Fox. You've got the qualifications to be a mentor, so I'd have no complaints, as long as someone's getting it done. Both you and Breeze are fairly active and I don't see either of you leaving anytime soon, meaning the mentor program gets the attention it rightfully deserves.

Scourge's Collar Color
I'm not a member of PCA, so please forgive me. But maybe the color of Scourge's collar could be changed. Not because the color for Scourge's collar isn't confirmed, but because I just don't like seeing people thinking the Scourge's collar is purple and than hassling outside artists for their own creative work. What I'm trying to say people use the cover of The Rise of Scourge or the charart of Scourge here to excuse their saying that Scourge's collar to purple to artists who depict Scourge with a red, blue, yellow, brown, green, or even pink. Yes, every artist has every right to depict Scourge however they like, even with a purple collar. Okay, I'm just rambling on now, so I should leave it at that. :P --Songheart (talk) 21:31, April 21, 2015 (UTC)Songheart

Why would we change it? The collar color is up to whichever artist made the image. What the fandom chooses to do is of no concern to us- we're here to make pixels. If it's purple, it's purple. There's no reason to change it unless we have a confirmation. I personally adore the color purple and I think it's a lovely color choice to have. Fun fact, they do the same thing with Bone's collar color and we are not changing that anytime soon.

I've had this idea that much like with BloodClan cats with the collar and the description, maybe we can list the colour of the collar if known. Maybe with Scourge's case, we can just list it as an unknown colour. This sounds like it belongs to project characters though. 03:20, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

We're not gonna be able make everyone happy no matter what we do with the collar color. Maybe we could put a note saying that his collar color is not confirmed, but it is drawn as purple on the character art because that is the most commonly used color. 15:03, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

I think it is better to just put in his description his collar color isn't stated.--Songheart (talk) 15:47, May 5, 2015 (UTC)Songheart

It does not matter if his collar color is specified or not. It's the /cat/ that's important, not the collar. It's just a color. It's artist's choice if the color isn't specified. There's no need to put it in his description. 15:50, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

we don't do it for any other cat so I don't see why he would need it. it's fine to let people just exercise their imagination over it. (aka bone) 19:41, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

24 or 48 hours?
I just wanted to clear something up that's been bothering my overly organized mind. For the duration of a CBA'd image or an image on the Tweak Page, does the image have to go 24 or 48 hours without comment before it's approved? I've seen users go both ways and there's even disagreement in the little commandment box at the top of the page and in the Guidelines. So, I was hoping to get this sorted out.

In the past, I believe we always went with the 24 hours without comment equals approval and if an image has gone 48 hours without comment, you can go ask a SW to approve it. Personally, I think 24 hours is a substaintial ammount of time, but I wanted to get this sorted out as a whole.

Comments? 03:17, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

I actually don't think 24 hours is enough for redone images, imho. Especially given how dead the tweak page is sometimes, I'd like to change it to 48 hours. I've seen images archived with tweaks still needing to be made to them, things that need to be fixed, ect, and it's mainly because sometimes these things aren't posted during peak hours.

Join
Hello! I was wondering if I could join this project? 18:38, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

Of course. Read the Guidelines and the apprentice tutorials. Welcome to PCA! 06:32, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

Dark Forest Blanks
The Dark Forest cats get their own rank now. So now it's up to PCA for the art. Would we tweak the rogue blanks? Or create new ones? 07:54, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Goodness, can we please settle down the other arguments going on? ._. 08:17, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

I say new blank. They are too unique to be partly rogue. That's just one opinion of a cat against a massive amount of narration. 19:25, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

New blank, 100%. I've never been a fan of just tweaking blanks to make a new rank. Jayie Unwritten words~ 19:31, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

We can still discuss this even with other discussions going on, Burnt. Personally, I think we can go forward with this, since it looks like the warrior blank forum isn't going to be decided anytime soon. Plus, I think the idea of waiting until the series is done to redo those blanks is a much better idea.

That being said, a new blank for the Dark Forest cats is the only fitting solution. We gave StarClan a brand-new blank, so why should the Dark Forest be any different? Going by Spottedleaf's one-time quote isn't good, given we have a slew of information that proves otherwise.

Editing existing blanks for an entire new rank just feels... lazy. New blank, if anything 21:16, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

I agree on a new blank 21:18, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Mmmm... If we are going to go ahead I'd definitely say we could go for a new blank. 00:12, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

New blank, I guess. 00:14, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

Agreeing with the above comments. They aren't rogues, they're their own rank and should get their own blanks. 00:21, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

Just to ask, would the trainees get ranks? It has been only vaguely discussed in PC. 22:01, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think so- that's overdoing it tbh. They're not official apprentices or anything like that- we don't count the cats that trained them as mentors, so that seems a bit unnecessary.

Yeah, that makes sense. I was mainly thinking of Breezepelt and Ivypool, who were made Warriors of the DF. 22:12, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

I totally have no problem with new blank ^^ 01:50, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

New blank would be nice. ~Skiddley Riddley ♫ ♪ 22:25, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

If there is a new blank, would the new blank would replace their rogue blanks? 20:41 Wed May 6

should do, unless they were one in the past like mapleshade. 20:54, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

I agree that a new blank should be made. 00:04, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm... Are there any objections to this? 08:25, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think therere going to be any more objections. 00:33, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

So, I think we should make a new forum to vote on the new blank artists since I don't see any objections to this. 22:49, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Fourm is here. 13:04, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

I'm guessing you at least have to be an apprentice to make a blank, possibly a warrior? Sorry if this was said anywhere and I just didn't see it. 14:06, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

Nope! Anyone is allowed to make a blank, regardless of rank or project membership! If you'd like to try your hand at it, we'd be more than glad to allow it. =)

I don't suppose you can post a WIP and update it later, before voting begins? I know what pose I want, but the anatomy needs fixing and the lines aren't thick enough to match, as well as no examples. But I'm not sure if I'm going to have enough time to update it before the 20th, and I at least want my idea out there. 14:31, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't have a problem with it- if yours is picked, then it can be posted to the page, and then you can fix up the rest of the stuff that you think needs fixing. Regardless, just post what you're comfortable with and then just go from there.

Sweet! I'm definitely going to try out, even if there are already so many amazing submissions that I don't stand a chance, but it'll be fun either way. Thanks! 15:17, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

Join?
May I join? Russettail13 (talk) 19:59, May 1, 2015 (UTC)Russet

May I join this? Flame star22  18:40, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

Of course. Read the Guidelines and the apprentice tutorials. Welcome to PCA! 06:32, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

May I join? The Legendary Lion (talk) 03:14, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

Ravenpelt - Join Request
Just realized my request needed to go under its own header, oops! 14:15, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

Sure, I'll add ya in. Welcome to the PCA! 00:06, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hazeltail
This is probably one of my dumb questions, but I was just wondering why her tail was tweaked to look like... That. Whippy = flexible. 00:50, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

Because Vicky said on her facebook that her tail was lean and whippy, like the branches of a hazel tree. So that's why we tweaked it.

I see. we should add it to her description to avoid confusion. 01:14, May 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can i join? xxSquirrelflightxx == can i plz join plzplzplz

XxSquirrelflightxx (talk) 01:27, May 15, 2015 (UTC)xxSquirrelflightxx ==

Apprentice Tutorials
Um, apparently the tutorials are going to be re-vamped, but nobody is doing anything to them. Can someone tell me what is going on? 03:38, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Can we get some comments on this? 00:05, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

The page hasn't been revamped since.. 2013, 2012? Should we make a new AT, and if we do, could we keep some of the tutorials (some of them are really helpful) 10:11, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Wrongly named files
File:Eeeltail.warrior.png and File:Reena.rogue.png 08:39, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

What's wrong with Reena? 07:46, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

This is why you take all misnamed files to my talk page- I didn't even see this until now. As for why Reena is misnamed, there are two Reenas, so it needs to be the file name. I'll rename these when I get home in three hours.

JOINCan
Can I please join?crow!!!! 17:14, May 11, 2015 (UTC)

Can u plz sign with a link to your user page? 22:46, May 11, 2015 (UTC) Yes does it work now?crow!!!!http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/User:Crowpool 16:40, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

can i join please - squirrelfang
May I join? Squirrelfang (talk) 18:25, May 11, 2015 (UTC)Squirrelfang

Sure thing! I'll add you in. Welcome to the PCA! 22:45, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Mentor Program Table
Sorry if I am bothering anyone, but on my computer (it could be a lag, so I'm not sure) it shows that Breezeheart has two apprentices in the first row, but it says on the sixth row that she mentors Giaria again. I don't know if this is a typo or if my computer is real crappy, so I thought I'd just bring it up. If you don't understand what I mean, I can explain but you all know how I'm like with my explanations and wording 11:15, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Breeze offered to combine lessons for them both. And to add to that, Giaria has left the wiki. 11:28, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Right... but I meant that Breeze's name appears twiceas a mentor on that table. I was just thinking that if it shows she mentors Giaria and Latte in the first row, then would there be any need to mention that she's a mentor in the sixth row? 11:43, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

There's isnt a dulplicate. I think it's your computer this time. 11:48, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

No, I see it, too. Breeze is listed at the top of the table and between you and Shinx. 20:33, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't see it. It was an accident. I removed it. 22:45, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Leaving
Mm, yeah. I dont know how to put this. I'm moving and going on vacation for over 4months. I also am loosing intrest in the warriors sieries just a tiny bnit I've decided to leave, tear, because my life has taken over my mind and my scedule. High School is near at the end of the year and that is when I will be leaving. Good by PCA ;-; ~ ☾Bramble where's the hot sauce?! 00:54, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

One more thing, I felt awkward talking on the PC page, but.. could you remove me off of their too? ~ ☾Bramble where's the hot sauce?! 00:55, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, that's okay. We all lose interest at one point or another- that's how a lot of the older members left. If you're going on vacation, you can always rejoin when you come back if you still want to. =)

Thanks for your dedication to PCA and PC. I'll miss you =( enjoy your life, Bramble. 09:46, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks guys, hope to see you in August, hopefully (Thats when I'll be returning) ~ ☾Bramble where's the hot sauce?! 15:06, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

Ill miss you Bramble D: ~ Stormsong  Let it storm&#9835;  15:08, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

Will miss ya. Hope to see you around soon. 06:22, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Aww, bye Bramble. Thanks for your work toward the project, and I hope to see ya in August. ^^ 19:13, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

I hope to see you again^^ We'll miss you Brambleshade. PCA welcomes you back any time :) 07:45, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Goodbye Bramble, it was nice knowing you for the short time I did. I hope you have a great time on your vacation and I look forward to seeing you back in August, even if you won't be in PCA and PC. 13:37, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

Bramblestar
Since I'm not a warrior yet, and I can't really put this on the tweak page (or I don't know if I can or not), I wanted to point this out. It says in his description he has a pale muzzle, and I checked the cite and the actual book to see if it was true, which I found it is. I'm thinking we need to tweak his images to include a pale muzzle as well. Correct me if I'm wrong? ~ Stormsong Let it storm&#9835;  02:20, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

I'd think it should be nominated, unless it says otherwise. :) 19:15, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

it says absolutely nothing about a pale muzzle? 19:22, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

The cite appears to me to be from the manga at the back of Tallstar's Revenge, and if that's the case, I'm pretty sure no tweaking is needed because we don't base description off of official art or manga? 22:54, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

no, we don't use cites from mangas (unless as jayce said it's their only description), there's too many inconsistencies, plus it's all in greyscale. (we used to do the same basically for cotc and ultimate guide, not even sure why we use anything out of that either...) 07:22, May 18, 2015 (UTC)