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Sweetbriar (Star) ~ For Approval
Can't believe I actually did this! I'm a beginner don't judge me. Also I want to know how you guys do those signatures so pretty. BlazeclawXAshfur (talk) 17:44, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Looks pretty good for your first image! Although, since it's your first, we need the title to be 'For Evaluation' instead of 'For Approval'. Also this needs to be reserved on the charart table. As for the image itself, the shading needs to be smoothed out more, and it looks like you're missing lineart on the eyes. Try overlapping the current lineart onto the existing image, and that should fix it. Try to blend the earpink a little more and maybe use a little more pinkish-gray color instead of orange. Technically all colors need to be colorpicked from the existing images, and how you do that is you save one of the older images and open that into the art program and colorpick from the places you need to color that specific area. In terms of stripe placement, it needs quite a bit more, and I believe there is texture, or that's probably just the stripes smudged. Sorry if this is a wall of text. ;-; 17:59, 2/23/2017

Sorry for double post, but the shading is leaking in some areas along the image, and the nose needs to be colored in. If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to ask! I'd be more than happy to help you out with image creation. Just gimme a shout on my talk page :) 18:00, 2/23/2017

Heh, I'm not that pleased with the final product. Thanks, though. I can't get to the editing yet, because i'm working on a school project. :( I will try to get to it, though. Thanks again BlazeclawXAshfur (talk) 18:31, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

You're amazing at the stripes! Even I can't do stripes properly yet. Mind defining the eye depth?😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:19, February 24, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

reuploaded BlazeclawXAshfur (talk) 00:58, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge/blur the earpink, and give the shading more shape so it isn't a straight line across the body. Curve it along the face and same with the other parts. The apprentice tutorials are lots of help. :) 01:01, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Do you know how to use the smudge tool? If so, everything still needs to be smudged: the shading, stripes, and white parts. It also appears you're trying to do things on one layer. Do you know how to use layers? If not, I suggest asking one of the other members here to show you how to do an image like that, specifically on a stream. 01:10, 2/24/2017

The layers were a bit of a hassle. When I tried to use them, my paint tool, Paint.NET shipped it out as one layer. . . so, not really the best option for me. Also I use pixlr and I still haven't got the hang of it. >:( BlazeclawXAshfur (talk) 06:06, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Do you know of a program called Paint Tool SAI? It's actually a lot easier and more nifty to use than Paint.NET. You could download the free trial and get started :) It's a lot better 13:37, 2/24/2017

reuploaded 17:57 February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Do you want the .psd for the kit? The colors look a little off and the images have texture. 18:53 Fri Feb 24

You nees to use layers, Starlight. Your lineart is blurred in many places. Please, if you need help, don't hesitate to ask. 19:39, 2/24/2017

Yep, I need help. For some reason I can't use layers primarily because of the weird way my art progam works. I might need to get a different art program. Also the apprentice tutorials aren't really helping me. And before anyone asks, I can get very busy during weekdays. So bombarding me with all you got is not the best way to go. 21:36 Feb 24, 2017

Define the eye depth, and smooth the shading on the front legs and tail

reuploaded --BlazeclawXAshfall (talk) 06:23, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

I think the nose pink should be a bit brighter to match the kit's. And smooth out and add some more texture. 16:25, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

There seem to be lighter lines (probably just erased marks) on the stripes that shouldn't be there, and the stripes on the queen and kit don't look quite as blurred, maybe sharpen them a bit? Jayie Just yo u wait~ 21:36, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

There should only be three colors for the pelt: The white, the base, and the stripes. It appears that you have an additional shade in there within the stripes that shouldn't be there. The texture is also beneath the stripes, placed much closer together and darker in color. I'm gonna guess those lighter lines are texture. If you want the HEX codes for the colors, don't hesitate to ask me. I'm also having trouble seeing the markings at all under the shading. 22:31 Mon Feb 27

Yep. Can I have the HEX codes? I really need to redo this somehow. . . --BlazeclawXAshfall (talk) 23:31, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Base: 947455 ; Stripes: 3b2618 ; White: FFFFFF ; Ear pink/Nose: 3b2618 ^ There ya go. The texture is two layers with the same color as the stripes with lowered opacity (77%). Hopefully this helps ^^ 23:43 Mon Feb 27

Can I have the HEX for the eyes? Also, you made a mistake with the Ear pink/Nose part. It's the same as the stripes. :P So maybe the fixed HEX for that as well? BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 01:04 2/28/17

There also seems to be a layer of sharp lines scattered on top of the image - could you smooth those out?

b58d8e <-- There is the correct one. Sorry 'bout that. My computer is sometimes a little glitchy from the programs I have to run for my research and whatnot. And the eyes are good how they are now, just need a little depth is all. 01:14 Tue Feb 28

re-up Should I smudge the texture? I'm not sure about that. BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 01:04 2/28/17

Yeah it looks too solid. Also, smudge/blur the ear pink too.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:41, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

re-up Heh, it still doesn't look good. BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 03:14 3/1/17

Smudge the earpink?😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 05:57, March 1, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The stripes on the eyes should be thicker. 21:26, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the chest, face and paws, and there's some specks of white on the <--- front paw that's not shaded. 22:09, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps smooth/even out the texture, and define the eye depth

Actually, can you help me with the eye depth and earpink part? I probably won't be able to know what you're talking about. . . BlazeclawXAshfur  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 01:43 3/2/17

Eye depth means varying the color of the eye, so it's not just flat color. So say, for example, an eye would be a lighter shade up top, and would gradually get darker as it went downward. For the earpink, it looks sharp, as if it was drawn on. Much of the time, we strive to make it more realistic, and we blur/smudge it into the fur to make it look as if it has a tuft of fur in it, or it gradually transitions from earpink to pelt.

Will get to that tomorrow (in my time). It's nighttime here! BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 05:57 3/2/17

re-up BlazeclawXAshfur  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 23:53 3/2/17

Smooth out the shading on the chest and main body.

You seem to be doing quite well now, so I'll promote you into an apprentice! The stripes still need to be smudged, and it appears that some shading or the earpink is leaking onto a few pixels on the ear? Smooth out the shading on the front legs/paws, and switch the tail shading to the other side of the tail, as your light source contradicts that. The tail shading is a little sharp at the tail-tip, so maybe smooth that out as well. Also the shading inside ---> ear needs to be smoothed out as well, and I still can't make out the eye depth. 13:23, 3/03/2017

Could you define the markings on the face? I'm having some trouble seeing them. 17:39, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

re-up can't wait until this is approved-- i had to use the erase tool because my program wasn't cooperating BlazeclawXAshfur  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 23:51 3/4/17

Comments before approval? 00:48, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to break the CBA, but the shading needs to be smoothed out a lot.

There is waste between the tail and back and by the front paw, on the right side. 02:36, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

There's a few pixels of shading missing from where the flank shading meets the shoulder. 02:45, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

For the tail shading source, I believe it would look something like this, not all on one side as it is currently because of your light source.

The top of the second line above the square marking on the side needs to be much thicker, I think, to match the other images, and there are small brown lines all over the image that I don't see on the other images. Jayie Just yo u wait~ 21:55, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

re-up there, how's that? BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 23:20 3/5/17

Could you add a bit more shading on the <- side of the tail, nearer to the top, and lessen it in the middle? It still looks mostly on one side, and the light shows from <-- so it wouldn't be quite as much. Also, can you lighten the white a little on the chest? Most of it looks really red/brown when it's under shading.

The white doesn't need to be lightened, it's the shading that's too dark. Lower the opacity and give it a good blur/smudge

You're missing the dorsal stripe. The queen is the first image in this set, not the kit.

re-up What is the dorsal stripe?? o_O ;-; BlazeclawXAshfall  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 1:23 3/7/17

A dorsal stripe is the main tabby stripe on a cat, like Graystripe as a prime example. 14:51, 3/07/2017

To add on to what Winter said; it's the stripe along the spine, which you still need to add. Examples of those kinds of stripes on StarClan blanks (if you're not totally sure where it goes) are like File:Mousefang.star.png, File:Amberleaf.star.png, File:Appledawn.star.png, and File:Frog (Ro).star.png. It won't usually directly follow the lineart and will look like the images I've linked.

Define the shading on the tail a bit? It looks really flat--😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:04, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

re-up Next time I will be doing a less complicated pattern! :P XD BlazeclawXAshfall  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 00:15 3/8/17 UTC

You still need to add the dorsal stripe please 00:30, 3/08/2017

Oops. Totally forgot! What happens when you're rushed while doing homework. #multitasking XD BlazeclawXAshfall  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 01:16 3/8/17 UT

Smoothen out the shading on the paws and chest. 01:27, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

I'm still figuring out how you guys made those cool signatures you have. Define the shading on the tail a bit again? Sorry about that XD--😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 03:45, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

re-up I swear lowering the opacity led to trouble with the tail. Shine! Beneath the Starlight

Maybe add a few more stripes on the <-- leg, since there seems to be more, thicker ones on the other images

re-up Added a few stripes in between the existing ones. Proud user of GIMP that doesn't cooperate with me sometimes. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 23:52 3/9/17 UTC

This is very good. Comments before approval? 18:30, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to break CBA again, but this does not match very well still. The stripes need to be smudged and there still needs to be texture. The stripes are looking a little paint-brushy right now. Also there's too many stripes on the front legs. And those markings on the muzzle area are not stripes. Please remove those <span style="">19:23, 3/10/2017

Perhaps very slightly recede the shading on the chest, and smooth it out. It still covers most of the white and the shading makes it look dark

Can someone help me with the dorsal stripe? I still can't get it!!! Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 17:44 3/11/17 UTC

The dorsal stripe looks like a plain line of color down her back. It should flow with the stripes more. Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 21:22, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

So the stripes above the dorsal stripe should also curve toward the other side like on the bottom. The way I matched for the kit gives pretty much the same pattern on both sides. I'll get a red line of what I'm talking about in a little bit. <span style="">21:27 Sat Mar 11

Here. I rushed the pattern a bit but this is about what it should look like. Also, define the texture a bit. <span style="">21:50 Sat Mar 11

re-up Eh. Tried to copy the thing. Nightmare to do so, I tell ya. Oh well. May not be on until tomorrow afternoon. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 1:58 3/12/17 UTC

Thin the dorsal stripe a little, and define the texture

On the ---> right ear, it looks like the fur color is leaking into the ear pink. Patch that up, please.

Willownose (Queen) ~ For Approval
Джулия де Мортон (talk) 12:11, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Very nice. Taper the ends on the stripes a little bit and define the light on the legs. <span style="">15:18 Sun Feb 26

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 15:54, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Add some shading in the ears? 16:30, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 18:20, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading and add a little bit of depth? 23:06, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 13:07, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe define the shading on the face, it kinda looks like there's no shading on the cheek closest to us😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 18:07, February 28, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The cheek is fine, but can you define the depth? 11:22, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:24, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Can you smooth the shading on the --> back paw? Looks really sharp on my screen

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:46, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

The shading is a little too sharp still. BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 23:57 3/2/17

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 12:27, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the belly and the depth on the whole image <span style="">13:33, 3/03/2017

I changed this heading to '~ For Approval" and promoted you to apprentice, since I checked and saw that you had an image already approved before this one.

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 07:55, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

There is an unfilled pixel on the front paw farthest from us. :) 15:12, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the --> front paw, and then maybe define the depth a smidge overall?

Lessen the shading on the flank, as I feel with your lightsource coming from that direction, there would be a lot less shading there <span style="">01:34, 3/06/2017

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 05:09, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

The lineart is blurry on the legs. Also if your light source is coming from <--- that direction, you need to get rid of a lot more of the shading on the flank <span style="">20:42, 3/07/2017

Still working?

Graywing (RC) (MC) ~ For Approval
Yeaaaaaaaah! ::::) <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 09:53, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

just a reminder to not thumb your images. i deleted the thumbing for you, but please remember for next time :)

Oh, sorry)) <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 10:51, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

since she's a riverclan cat, she'll need long fur. 13:16, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Also, this file needs to be renamed to File:Graywing (RC).mc.png. Could you smooth out the shading a bit and define the shading depth? <span style="">13:42, 3/03/2017

Can you define the shading on the <-- back paw just a little? Also, I renamed this for you :3

What means phrase "define the shading depth"? I will correct, but so hard to start again. And thank you, Spooky. <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 09:26, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth means adding a little bit of very dark shading around the edges of the image where your light source wouldnt shine, thus creating an even better 3d effect <span style="">15:19, 3/04/2017

I understand, thanks <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 09:33, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Still working? <span style="">14:49, 3/07/2017

I am work, but I have many much (хз) thing, which I must do. <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 07:21, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Reupload <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 07:48, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

I am changed. <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 07:47, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

You guys have the best textures ever! How are you so good at it? Looks like there is some shading leaking on > side of the tail. Broken Slice Of The Loved Crow's Talon 14:59, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Maybe define the --> earpink some. I know it's under shading and all, but I just barely make it out against the pelt color

I can make video, how I make this textures. ::::3 <font style="color: #99adff">✨ShineStar✨ 12:02, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Reupload  <font color="#4ac925">ShineC♉♏et    BARK   16:45, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, can you please make a video showing how you make textures? Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 17:02, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

All non-criticism comments belong off the talk page <span style="">19:25, 3/10/2017

I think the shading is leaking away from the lineart on the --> side of the tail

Quietkit (Star) ~ For Evaluation
First charart. I'm not sure if I did this right. Shypaw11 (talk) 16:48, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, so this is a good job for your first time. This might be a whole wall of text, I apologize in advance.

The major thing would be to match the other image. Here, the chest is a more rounded yellow color with orange splotches. On the other image, the chest is an orangey-brown color kind of in a flash-design, so maybe if you changed the shape and either smudged/blurred (not sure which one) the colour, it would look similar. I'm not sure, but I think you're allowed to colour-pick from the other images. Next, the earpink here is a very neon purple colour, and we don't want that. On the kit image, the earpink is a more reddish colour, so even just colour picking and changing that would work. The other image has texture, which would mean taking a 1px or whatever brush and making small lines that look like fur. And then there are small things, such as the nose colour being pink, and the eyes being a darker blue. You could also define the eye depth (which means the colours in the eye go from light to dark). I hope this wasn't too harsh or long ... great job nonetheless :) 17:06, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can you please explain the texture a bit more? Shypaw11 (talk) 17:49, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Texture is basically adding "fur" to the charart, or adding the effect of fur so it seems like it's not a flat image. It's not required, but since the kit image has texture, it is required for the star image. To add texture, take a 1px (usually the smallest brush size you have) and add small lines to mimic the direction of fur. This is usually done on a different layer (usually a layer above the pelt color and stripes but usually not above the shading). I usually use black or a darker hue than the pelt color for texture, but you can always lower the opacity of it later.

Also, I think the cream belly should stretch all the way to the <-- chest fluff, and down to the underside of the chest where it meets the shoulder. And darken/define your shading. ^^ You're doing a great job so far. 18:15, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Winterpaw and Vec! I defined the shading, added texture, and fixed the chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 18:47, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the earpink some, and expand the chest to fill the spot to the <--, since it doesn't quite fill where it's supposed to be. Also, the color of it looks different than the kit, and a bit too orange. Define the shading, as well.

Reuploaded Defined shading, smoothed ear pink, and lightened and expanded chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 21:42, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the texture a bit, as well as the chest. Also, the chest looks too bright and orange. Try colorpicking from the kit. 22:18, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid shading, texture and stripes. How do you colorpick from a different image? Shypaw11 (talk) 22:38, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened Shading Shypaw11 (talk) 23:12, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what program you use, but to answer your previous question: When color picking another image, download it, open it in your art program, and then use the color-picking tool to grab it's color. On my program, it looks like a dropper, but on others, I'm sure there's a guide somewhere that would show which one it is. Try to pick from the lightest point, not under shading or texture, if you can. Then, you'll have that color saved to use on your image.

Reuploaded Thanks Spooky! I use GIMP, and hopefully this is better. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:08, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink, blur/smudge the shading and smooth out the stripes on the arms and tail.😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:30, March 6, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reuploaded Smudged ear pink, smoothed out stripes, and blurred the shading. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:56, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the image. Shypaw11 (talk) 01:32, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are you colorpicking from the image? The colors look a little off, especially the chest. Connect the lines of the texture. Smudge the chest and earpink some more <span style="">01:37, 3/06/2017

There is waste beside and on top of the <- ear. Also, maybe smudge/blur the earpink a bit more, and make it less neon, darker. 01:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The eye looks a bit milky? Or is that just me. .3. 02:40, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:04, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the shading some?

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 20:48, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are those lines on the body texture? Because they look a little. . . strange. Also smudge the ears a bit so it looks like ear fur. I also suggest improving the shading, mostly on the chest. Refer to the apprentice tutorials if you need it, they can be lifesavers! BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 2:59 3/7/17

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:28, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Everything needs to be smoothed out more <span style="">23:57, 3/07/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 02:38, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading again, please. 18:29, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink out some, and define the texture under the shading

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 01:31, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The nose pink is a bit too neon, it should be more orangey. Same with the earpink, it should be darker and less bright. :) 17:33, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:34, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Crowfrost (Star) - For Approval
honestly it sucks that he died, I was looking forward to a Crowstar. ehh if you ask me he only died so the Tigerheart and Dovewing drama could be juicier. 19:01, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Brighten the white on the chest.

This needs a date to be reserved <span style="">19:05, 3/05/2017

Smoothen out the shading in the ear, and along with the chest as Snowed mentioned, brighten the white on the chin. Also, I added the (Star) to the title 19:34, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smooth the shading on the front paws, and slightly define the tail shading

The white chest seems too dark. Loos more gray..either way, good job!😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:29, March 6, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Broken please stop repeating comments. It was already said above <span style="">01:38, 3/06/2017

Reuploaded 18:53, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Could you smooth the shading on the --> front paw, and perhaps recede it a few pixels? It looks a bit sharp, and also gray on the white

Could you actually smooth out the shading everywhere? <span style="">23:58, 3/07/2017

I believe there is a white pixel sticking out on the ---> front paw. 16:14, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded The shading is meant to be sharp, but I smoothed it out a little. 17:53, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Can you smooth out the shading on his chest? 18:28, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded 10:42, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Frogtail (Star) ~ For approval
Homosneksual (talk) 22:56, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

I removed the alignments. Do not align your images. Also, define the shading, and there is a white pixel waste outside the -> front paw. 23:15, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Alignment confuses me. Whenever you upload the image, you click the option to put it on the left, right? That's how I've done it before and I wasn't corrected on it.

It says at the very top of this page not to align your images. Also when you want to reupload this image, please go to File:Frogtail.star.png to upload, that way you do not use the alignments. <span style="">01:40, 3/06/2017

Smudge the ear pink a bit. 02:19, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Homosneksual (talk) 03:13, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the tail shading? It looks flat in the middle section of it

Smooth the shading out a bit as well, it looks a bit hard-edged. 21:22, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups That smooth enough? Or maybe a bit more? Homosneksual (talk) 23:27, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth it out more yeah <span style="">00:01, 3/08/2017

Define the eye depth, and maybe smooth the earpink a tad more

There's something leaking out in front of the <--- front paw. 00:53, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I went around the whole thing to make sure nothing else was leaking out, found a few stray pixels.

Please remember to leave your signature. Also smooth out the shading more <span style="">23:33, 3/08/2017

Define the depth of the face and tail shading

Smudge the ear pink? Broken_Foot Slice Of The Crow's Talon 01:10, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups I think the ear pink is as smudged as my art program will allow. I also tried edging the shading with a different brush than originally used to soften it a bit, hopefully that looks better :) Homosneksual (talk) 04:28, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the earpink? It looks just a wee bit flat

reups Homosneksual (talk) 23:58, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

I think the texture is a bit more defined on his other images. 00:15, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

reups Homosneksual (talk) 05:38, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Mossheart (TC) (Q) ~ For Approval
Mossheart is a bluish-gray she-cat with green eyes. This is my first queen, and my first charart. 21:46, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

pretty good. define the shading everywhere. 21:50, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups defined shading 21:54, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Expand the belly shading, since queens are pretty round. Also smooth the earpink shading on the <-- ear, looks a little sharp

Reups  Defined belly shading and smoothed the ear pink shading. 22:07, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Add more shading along the <--- side of her head and define the shading depth? <span style="">23:26, 3/06/2017

Reups Added more shading on head and defined shading depth. 23:34, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading quite a bit. 23:56, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Smoothed shading out. 00:00, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the legs, and define the light on the leg thats underneath her tummy (mostly hidden leg) <span style="">00:45, 3/07/2017

Reups Defined shading on legs and defined light on tummy leg. :3 00:49, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

I think you know what you're doing, so I'll promote you into an apprentice :3 Also define the shading on the tail, maybe lessen a little of the shading on her head so the light shines on the muzzle some, and maybe lighten that part of the shading a little as well? <span style="">00:52, 3/07/2017

Reups Thx Snow. Also, lessened shading on face, and defined shading on the tail. 01:32, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading a little more on the legs, especially the closest back leg. And maybe smooth out the leg shading as well? <span style="">00:09, 3/08/2017

Reups Defined shading on legs. And smoothed leg shading out. 01:04, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

could you lighten belly shading just a tiny bit —  Minkclaw   17:21, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Lightened belly shading. 20:38, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

I feel like there should be some more shading on the back leg closest to us, on the part where the belly overlaps it? <span style="">23:35, 3/08/2017

Reups Added shading on hind leg. 23:38, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? <span style="">15:27, 3/09/2017

Not quite; I think the belly shading could be lightened a fair bit more. While darkness doesn't need to be the same throughout the entire image, I think the darkness that this has clashes with the image itself.

Reups Lightened belly shading. 20:17, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Smoothen out the shading a bit. This is good. :} 04:47, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Hayberry (Queen) - For Evaluation
First image ErmineGlow (talk) 22:44, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Don't align images. Also, define the shading on the stomach. 22:50, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

there shouldn't be eyelashes. 22:53, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

How come the <- ear has a rip in it? 22:54, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The shading looks a little flat on the belly. Shypaw11 (talk) 22:57, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I don't know how that rip happened, but it's fixed. Plus the eyelashes and belly shading.

There is still some black in the ear from where the rip was. Shypaw11 (talk) 23:10, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I blurred and smudged it to remove. Does it look better? ErmineGlow (talk) 23:14, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere <span style="">23:21, 3/06/2017

Reups Darkened shading ErmineGlow (talk)

I think you need to give your shading more shape, as these are supposed to represent 3d images, making it look real, so to speak. Instead of just plopping the shading on the tail and the legs as you appear to be, try only putting the shading around the edges of the legs/tail/etc., like some of the images on here. The apprentice tutorials help as well, and it's good to look at shading placement <span style="">23:28, 3/06/2017

Reups I tried to follow the shading placement image, so hopefully this is better. ErmineGlow (talk)

The lineart is blurred by where the ear tear and eyelashes were. 23:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Look better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:34, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth a bit 00:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:47, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Don't forget your signature. Also, smooth out the shading <span style="">00:46, 3/07/2017

Reups Better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:53, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

A little! Smooth out the shading on her tail, define the light on her legs as well <span style="">00:55, 3/07/2017

Add some shading where her chest is, and darken the shading on her tail just a tiny bit. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic (just realized that i was shipping myself with ashfur XD) 1:11 3/7/17

Reups Tried to smooth out the shading, and also darkened the shading at the tip of the tail. --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:16, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Try to use a darker color for the shading, because it appears that the shading is the same color as the pelt.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 03:50, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, it looks like a square on the flank <span style="">03:54, 3/07/2017

Reups Better looking? ErmineGlow (talk) 03:57, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

That looks more appropriate as the color for the shading. Try and lower the opacity and blur it more to smooth it out.

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 13:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Round out the shading on the flank, as it looks a little blocky the way it is now. Also, define the mottles on the paws, face, and --> side of the tail

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 22:22, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading more everywhere, define the light on the hidden back leg, and switch the shading on the farthest from us front leg to the other side of the leg <span style="">00:11, 3/08/2017

I think the shading is a bit too dark. Lighten the opacity a bit. Also, try to add some eye depth. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 00:19 3/8/17 UTC

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:03, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading a lot <span style="">23:35, 3/08/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:41, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Your shading on the face says the light is coming from the right, coming up a little. But your chest has shading close the lineart. o.O Is this supposed to be there? If not, erase that, because it would contradict the light source. And try to keep the light source consistent throughout the whole cat. Also deepen the eye depth. I think there's some there. . . ? Shine!  Beneath the Starlight

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:30, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth? Broken_Foot Slice Of The Crow's Talon 01:45, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:35, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the flank shading Broken Slice Of The Loved Crow's Talon 06:08, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups ErmineGlow (talk)

There's leaking shading around the very edges or the image, plus you need to smooth out the tail shading a lot more. <span style="">15:28, 3/09/2017

The shading looks square on the belly Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:04, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the mottled pattern on the --> side of the tail -- It looks like there's very little there.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the stomach and legs, and smooth it out on the tail. 00:17, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:35, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

What are you doing for smoothing out the shading? I dont see any differences between any of the revisions for the tail shading. To "smooth out" shading, use the blur tool on the edge of the shading, not the shading itself. <span style="">00:57, 3/11/2017

Reups Does it look better now? --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:18, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Nightmask (D) - For Approval
This is my fifth image. I am really happy with it. :]  03:43, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define shading on the tail a bit?)Ignore me if its fine)😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 04:34, March 7, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

I can see it fine. Second opinion? (The tail is skinny so there isn't a lot of room to have shading and the base colour) 04:50, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Tail looks fine to me.

I think it looks fine too ErmineGlow (talk) 04:56, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the texture; it kinda looks like just lines right now.

​Reuploaded 20:58, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Would you mind very slightly smoothing the shoulder and belly shading? It looks a tad sharp on my screen, and smoothing it might also help add a little depth. Also, dunno if this intentional, but the shading on the <-- front paw juts out a bit oddly at the elbow, but the light is from <-- everywhere else, so it should be receded a little bit.

 Reuploaded ​that was intentional btw, i had exactly what the apprentice tutorials had on their example... I removed a bit anyways, and smoothened the other stuff. 21:46, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading and smooth it out <span style="">23:36, 3/08/2017

I can see the shading just fine o.o😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 23:51, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Imho it could use just a bit of definition - I'm on mobile and can't see it very well

'''I could see it fine, but alright. Reuploaded''' -- 01:11, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading just a little bit more. 01:25, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- 02:19, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the belly and behind the elbow some on the front leg <span style="">19:26, 3/10/2017

Reuploaded -- 23:57, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Could you define the texture on the face, chest, <-- side of haunch, and the tail? Maybe the paws, too. It seems a bit uneven, and in some places I can't pick it out

Isn't texture placement artist's choice, though? Am I mistaken? I chose it keep it mainly on the body. 00:28, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Technically if you use texture, you need to use it on the whole image. Its really just a given <span style="">00:58, 3/11/2017

Reuploaded I removed the texture -- 02:29, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smooth out the shading at the start of the tail? It's looking a bit sharp Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 03:02, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Looks fine to me, second opinion? 03:30, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

I think it's fine. ErmineGlow (talk) 14:19, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Shading looks like it's leaking near the lineart for the stomach and haunch.

Reuploaded -- 19:05, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

It's probably just my eyes, but the ear pink seems to be a bit dark. You should probably ask for a second opinion, though, since I'm not quite sure.

Mothpelt (Star) ~ For Approval
Yipee! Third image. :DD 21:59, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

the brown is far too blurred looking. 22:22, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups  22:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading? 22:51, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups    22:58, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Can you make the line in the eye before the white a little less jagged? Like round it out a bit? sorry its just bugging me <span style="">00:13, 3/08/2017

Reups 01:00, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

There's some waste between the paws on both sides, on the <-- elbow, and the --> shoulder

Reups 00:14, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth a bit :) 02:03, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Reups 03:11, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a little bit and smooth it out more on the paws <span style="">19:27, 3/10/2017

Reups 20:19, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

I think the brown is a bit more broken up on the other images, rather than in big, connected patches. 00:20, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reups 00:23, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

I think you might've misunderstood what Ivy meant. Your most recent upload merged some of the brown patches, but they're supposed to be more broken up like the other images.

Reups 01:12, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

​Rustlepaw (A) ~ For Approval
I'm ashamed of the shading, but a bit proud. At least I know where Lionblaze's golden comes from now X3 Also, might get rid of the texture😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 02:52, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Do not align your images. I took them off, you've been told many times before now. Anyways, lighten the shading and smooth it out a bit. 02:57, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Add stripes, as he's said to be a tabby. 02:58, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

''Re-uploaded! ''To be honest, I've made personal chararts, so my tabby stripes aren't that bad😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 03:31, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

This isn't reserved on the chart

Done😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 14:54, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

which way is the light surce coming from? the light on the face says the left, but the light on the legs and tail says the right. 15:38, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! To be honest, even I don't know.😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 15:50, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Define the shading on the tail. This looks good! ^^ 16:12, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! Ayy, thanks so much!😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 16:23, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Lighten the back shading a bit.

Define the shading on the paws

Re-uploaded! Wasn't really feeling the other shading pattern, so I redid it😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 23:33, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

I'm confused where your light source is coming from? Like I'm assuming its straight on the side of the cat but behind it some? But if that's the case, the shading along the spine needs to go, and you need to add some shading on the belly areas especially in front of the legs. Also define the shading on the legs, and get rid of that stripe on the white underbelly <span style="">23:38, 3/08/2017

Re-uploaded! Last time I try to custom shading my chararts-if that makes sense😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:17, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Smooth out the shading.

Re-uploaded! I'm loving my signature Broken Slice Of The Loved Crow's Talon 14:43, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The shading is leaking pretty much everywhere. Especially the paws and ears, back too. 04:45, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! Tries to make shading cool Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 05:28, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Again, if your light source is coming from behind and to the side of the cat, the back shading needs to be erased and put onto the belly and chest <span style="">19:28, 3/10/2017

The earpink is leaking a little on the <-- ear

Re-uploaded! Didn't notice your comment Snowdapple, so I'll get to it Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 22:17, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Re-uploaded! Gonna fix the shading flaws later, don't worry Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 22:57, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Smooth out the shading some, and also, the belly/chest white looks a gray in spots

Re-uploaded! My damn jaw has been aching again, oh geez. Anyways, the confidence is real Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 02:55, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Lighten the shading. 03:15, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! It turns gray ;-; Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 03:29, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Smooth the shading out a bit more. 15:05, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! This shading pattern is hard and painful to smooth out Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 17:40, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Perhaps tint the shading red or brown and set it on multiply? The color of the shading kind of clashes a bit with the color. Just a suggestion. If it is fine then ignore this. (I hope this doesn't sound rude. I just don't know how else to word it lol) <span style="">21:23 Sat Mar 11

Theres waste around the whole image <span style="">21:32, 3/11/2017

Leafshine (Star) - CBA
03:24, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail and head? <span style="">23:39, 3/08/2017

Maybe darken the shading everywhere. The shading seems a little too close to the fur color, and I can't see it that well. Or it's just my computer acting all crazy on me. Also smudge the earpink a little bit? (This looks good by the way. Good job with the dorsal stripe.) Shine!  Beneath the Starlight

Re-uploaded 07:51, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe smooth the shading on the paws. 18:26, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 07:43, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? <span style="">21:32, 3/11/2017

Featherstar (L) ~ (For Evaluation)
I made Featherstar. Don't judge me, it's my first. -- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀  01:49, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Add shading, define the eye depth, smudge the ear pink, and your lineart is blurred in a few places. Also, remove the white. Broken_Foot Slice Of The Crow's Talon 01:50, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

This file needs to be renamed Featherstar.leader.png, not Leader_shorthair. Also you need to reserve an image before you create it please. What Broken means by removing the white, is the white background. You need to have transparent background. <span style="">01:58, 3/09/2017

I don't think I can. I used Paint.-- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀   02:06, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and does the fact that I have to reserve it before creating mean it can't be accepted? I mean, even when I make the edits? -- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀   02:09, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

The blurred lineart, if I know what you're talking about, is supposed to be shading. -- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀   02:10, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Technically the first time is allowed, but is emitted with a warning. So make sure to do it next time or it'll have to be declined. Also I'd recommend you don't use Paint. Use a program like Pixlr, Paint.NET, Paint Tool SAI, or GIMP <span style="">02:13, 3/09/2017

Paint is the only editor I have.-- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀   02:19, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Please continue uploading under Featherstar.leader.png. Also for the program, Pixlr is a free online editing program, so you don't have to worry about downloading anything, but all in all, I recommend using GIMP. <span style="">02:39, 3/09/2017

I'm going to try to get the background off there. Sorry I wasn't on, I was eating dinner. -- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀   03:14, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Mind editing the title? It needs a link to the page for Featherstar, and of course you need to specify what you are making. (Hint, L is for leader.) I could do it for you if you want. Shine! Beneath the Starlight

There's still white space left on the < side. Dull down the neon in the ear pink and smoothen it out with the white. Define the shading, too. And eye depth. Also, do not align your images. I took it off and took the 3 out of your file name. EDIT: Oh, sorry. I realize your file with the extra 3 was the one you removed the white space on. I'll change it back and you can just upload it t the correct one later on. :) 03:29, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

I added something. That's something you need to put for every single charart. Also, add some white to the eye. Just black makes it a little creepy and unnatural. Please refer to the apprentice tutorials. Your white cat needs a little work. Shine! Beneath the Starlight 3:34 3/9/17 UTC

Featherstar, you need to stop uploading a new image under a new filename every time. You've been told 3 times now to upload under Featherstar.leader.png. Also the image is way too large <span style="">03:43, 3/09/2017

That's one big kitty o.o Anyways, mind adding some shading to the whole image rather then a few patches on the bottom? Broken_Foot -Slice Of The Crow's Talon  05:38, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

I could fix up the shading for you and remove some of the background white? I hope I don't get in trouble tho o3o Broken Slice Of The Loved Crow's Talon 14:56, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

I don't think that's allowed unfortunately, although I may be mistaken. But since it's Featherstar's image, you doing the shading and everything else seems like you're trying to take over their image. So I don't think you can <span style="">15:21, 3/09/2017

You need to say when you reupload. And dont thumb your images <span style="">00:02, 3/10/2017

okay. I reuploaded it with the original file name but it put the white background back on. -- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀   00:04, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Can I put it back with the 4? -- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀   00:06, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

This still isn't reserved on the table. And no, it has to have the proper file name, sorry. Try filling then color-selecting the background to get rid of the extra white^^ Besides that, add shading.

I don't understand. -- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀   03:06, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

I'm itching so bad to fix it up, but I'm not allowed. Anyways, you have to remove the white from the background and add shading. Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 03:34, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

If I edit it, the site will let me put the name Featherstar.leader.png, but it won't let me put the pic I just edited. -- ❀F e a t h e r  s t a r 2 7❀   02:36, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Gorseclaw (WC) (W) ~ For Approval


Great! Add some shading on tail and front <-- leg? And maybe smudge the earpink a bit? Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 23:54 3/9/17 UTC

Reuploaded

Could you add a dorsal stripe or something that way the lines don't look like... idk, straight lines? They seem really uniform and unnatural and we've had countless images redone in the past for having this kind of stripe style.

Reuploaded Is that better?

Lighten the shading a bit? 04:15, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded btw, the dorsal stripe makes the shading back there look darker than it is

Define the ear pink just a tad? Very nice pattern.

Deerfoot (A) ~ CBA
All colors from other images. Comments? 23:55, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Smoothen out all the white. :D 00:17, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:25, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading just a little bit? 00:57, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 00:59, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? Nice job^^

Lilyflower (Star) ~ For Approval
I'm so proud of this one <span style="">03:21, 3/10/2017

Lighten the white a bit; it looks pale gray. 03:28, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

It looks fine tbh. i can clearly tell it's white, even with my dark screen

Define the shading where the flank meets the tail on <--- If that makes sense Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 03:43, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Could you possibly redline where you're talking about? I'm kinda confused <span style="">03:51, 3/10/2017

It's basically missing some shading on the flank when it meets the tail, on the left side Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 04:13, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Oh that's intentional. All my images are that way. It would contradict the light source if I put more shading there <span style="">04:40, 3/10/2017

Define the > earpink. Also, maybe either smoothen out or give the shading some shape on the face? It looks like a line tbh. This is nice :) 04:42, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Didn't touch the face because I'm not entirely sure why you think it's a line??? <span style="">04:47, 3/10/2017

The face looks fine. Maybe you can define the shading on the rear end. 18:25, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Featherkit (TPB) ~ For Evaluation
--Moonheart01 (talk) 04:49, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

You need to leave a signature and do not thumb your images. This needs to be reuploaded under Featherkit (TPB).kit.png. Also you need to reserve this on the charart table please <span style="">04:44, 3/10/2017

The formatting was messed, so I fixed it, and removed the alignments. Also, Snowdapple, wouldn't they name this Featherkit (TPB).star.png instead, and not .kit.png? 04:52, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Yes my bad sorry im very tired and i had a bad day <span style="">04:55, 3/10/2017

Ok! Fixed it all. --Moonheart01 (talk) 04:56, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth and blur the shading on the back Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 05:09, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Define your shading, and I think you should add more. --ErmineGlow (talk) 05:14, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

His eyes look gray in this image, but he's been described with "blue eyes" Please change it to his description Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 05:35, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

On his kit image I think he has a little texture? --Shypaw11 (talk) 01:26, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

done!--Moonheart01 (talk) 02:56, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Seems like you named your file wrong, as this is not the kit image. It's the StarClan image, and therefore, you have to rename this. Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 03:00, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Expand and define the shading. 03:09, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

done! --Moonheart01 (talk) 06:32, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth some more. Homosneksual (talk) 06:39, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

I still can't make out any of the shading/changes despite the blue eyes Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 06:45, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The image is missing color on the muzzle <span style="">21:27, 3/11/2017

Runningbrook (Q) ~ For Approval
I'm not sorry

shouldn't that one stripe be following the curve of the spine more? 14:19, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

I'm lovng this pattern! Maybe smudge the ear pink a bit? Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 16:07, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The StarClan image has lighter paws, so maybe lighten the paws to a lighter gray/white on this image? Homosneksual (talk) 23:39, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded this pattern isn't my own (i wish it was, certainly)

Pretty cute :3 Smooth out the tail shading a tiny bit? Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 18:14, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Re-uploaded Thanks <3

Yellowstar (L) ~ For Approval
17:43, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the end of the tail a tiny bit? Lookin' Good! Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 17:58, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Could you make them a little more yellow? They're looking kinda brown <span style="">18:12, 3/10/2017

Make what yellow, though? The description is just "very pale cream" which is exactly how she's looking right now. <span style="">18:34 Fri Mar 10

Might just be my computer, but idk. It's looking a little too brown <span style="">19:20, 3/10/2017

Looks like pale cream to me?

It looks pale cream, as its supposed to be, so I think it's fine. Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 03:40, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

reuploaded they're orange? in any case I gave her faint yellow highlights. 16:15, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Featherstorm (Star) ~ For Approval
that's not texture, it's shading. i'll only change it if it's really really necessary. <span style="">18:29 Fri Mar 10

Beautiful Berry! Define the shading on the face a bit? Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 18:46, March 10, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Excuse the double comment, but it has been revealed she has "green eyes" If I'm mistaken, I'm sorry, but please change the color Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 03:06, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

re-uploaded <span style="">15:54 Sat Mar 11

Jester (Lo) - For Approval
Eh. 23:47, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Lookin' good :) The stripes look a bit sharp, smudge or blur them slightly?(Might just be me though) Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 00:42, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The shading right before the hind leg looks a little sharp, blur/smudge it? Also pretty sure you can have sharp stripes, but idrk ;-; 00:58, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I smudged the stripes and the shading a little bit. 01:51, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Rabbitstar (L) - For Approval
~Patch   feather~   14:15, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Please crop the image and get rid of the obnoxious extra space on --> side.

'''Re-uploaded. ''' ~Patch    feather~   01:48, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Whitewater (Star) ~ For Approval
Will add some depth to the shading in next upload. 19:56, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

She needs to be long-furred and blind. 20:31, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the blind part is fine, because this is the StarClan version?

I will fix the fur size later, but she is described with orange eyes and  blind doesn't means white and or milky. 20:35, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

She was born with a blind eye, though and it is milky-orange on her other images. It was not confirmed she has sight in both eyes in StarClan. Anywho, perhaps darken the shading a touch? <span style="">21:19 Sat Mar 11

Bluebellkit (Kit) - For Evaluation
Woo, my first charart! Here's Bluebellkit- how did I do? --Shrikestep (talk) 20:30, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a little, it looks like there's a shadow on it. It's a good start.

reuploaded! --Shrikestep (talk) 20:35, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth and the light some; the paws and tail especially

What does that mean, exactly? Do you want me to add shading there? --Shrikestep (talk) 20:48, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Erase the shading where there wouldn't be any, and add shading in places that need it. In this light source case, erase the shading on the <-- sides of the paws and add more on the --> side. Same with everywhere else -- the whole image shouldn't be under shading, and where there is shading, it should be darker as it hits the light less.

reuploaded! Hopefully I got what you meant...--Shrikestep (talk) 21:04, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

You're getting closer. Define the light on the legs and tail again. Define the depth as well. Add another layer on a higher opacity so that the shading looks more like a gradient. <span style="">21:15 Sat Mar 11

reuploaded! I'll probably lighten the shading a tad, but is this any better? --Shrikestep (talk) 21:39, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

He's starting to look gray, and shading is leaking on > Side of the flank Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 21:52, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Define the light on the legs and tail again. 22:09, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

reuploaded! Clearly shading is not my strong point! XD --Shrikestep (talk) 23:36, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the shading more, as she still seems more gray. Also, there seems to be some waste on ---> side of the image. 23:48, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

reuploaded! Dang, what kinda charart guy will I be if I can't even get a solid kit image right DX Fear me and my billions of reuploads, PCA! --''' Sh ri ke st ep! 00:20, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Talonpaw (Star) - For Approval
I'm proud of this pattern. <span style="">21:13 Sat Mar 11

I've always imagined Talonpaw as a dark brown tabby with silver front paws and blue eyes. Maybe smudge the stripes a small bit? Sorry if it they're supposed to be that way. This is beautiful Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 21:20, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Could you define the white on the --> paw? --ErmineGlow (talk) 21:21, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

The stripes look fine..

No actually the stripes could stand to be smudged slightly. <span style="">21:29, 3/11/2017

Reuploaded That is as much as I can define the white and still have him be silver. He's already looking too dark... <span style="">21:47 Sat Mar 11

Define shading on face? Or is there not supposed to be any? Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 3:01 3/12/17 UTC

Light is coming from above and sorta head-on. There is minimal shading with the source I used. <span style="">02:06 Sun Mar 12