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Graystripe - Silver Nomination
I'm surprised he's not already gold. :) I don't own many of the books so I may need help with the improvements.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 20:13, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

For such a major character, he has awfully short history for several sections, particularly some of the original series ones. Those definitely need fleshing out and he could probably use a general look over if someone has time. insane brick'd 21:29, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'd do it myself, but I don't have any of the books. If anyone would like to do it, that would be great. I mean, come on, it's Graystripe! :)-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 20:39, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

I've been editing Graystripe for a few days, he could need some extension in the OS, but I don't know if I should do it. Sky wish16  Nannerpus, the banana peel 00:13, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

If you have the books, you're more than welcome too as I don't own those books.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 01:14, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Wait. Do we need a citation for Tigerstar mentoring him? Quailflight 09:34, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah we should. It should be in Into the Wild.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 10:28, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Not just Into the Wild, but a page source, too. → •Maple  fern•  ←  11:42, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone have the page? It's after Lionheart dies.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 12:51, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

I have Into the Wild, but I can't find it. Quailflight 19:11, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

I read Into the Wild, starting after Lionheart died all the way to the end. There's acually nothing that says Tigerclaw mentored Graypaw. There was one point when Graypaw when to a training session with Tigerclaw and Ravenpaw, but there was never an official ceremony or anything after that Night  Fall 04:42, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

I was reading Fire and Ice and Bluestar said when Graystripe and Fireheart got apprentices, she told Fireheart to pass down all he learned from Tigerclaw and Lionheart. Maybe we could get a citation for that? Quailflight 14:37, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

You mean Graystripe? If so, that would work.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 19:51, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

No, it was Fireheart. Bluestar mentioned only Lionheart to Graystripe. But I think it would be relevant enough for Graystripe. Quailflight 19:54, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well, wasn't Graypaw's training almost complete when Lionheart died. I'll be able to check on Tuesday, since I'll be getting the Original Series then.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 15:48, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ok. I'm in Chapter 17 in ItW all the cats are sitting vigil for Lionheart and it says nothing about Tigerclaw taking over Graypaw's training. What do you think? Should we keep Tigerstar on or not?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 21:38, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

As for fleshing out the OS section, I've added more to his Rising Storm section. He's only seen at the end, but he's mentioned alot by Fireheart and Bluestar.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 22:06, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Battles of the Clans is missing. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 10:40, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I haven't finished BotC yet so could someone give me a hand please?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 14:24, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone still working on this article? insane brick'd 12:56, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

I am. I just finished his BotC section. How is he now?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 17:12, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Jayfeather-Silver Nomination
I fixed up Jayfeather's page pretty good and I think it deserves at least a Silver grade. Riverpelt Heart of Amber 18:07, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sunrise section could use expansion. → •Maple  fern•  ←  21:48, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Leafpool as a mentor needs to be cited-- Night s h i n e   R  03:40, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Done. I did it. Sky wish16  Hail to the awesome WAGE! 02:35, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I'm working on cleaning up his history now. One question though, since I haven't read The Sight in a while, did Tigerstar ask Jaypaw to be trained by him before Jaypaw became a medicine cat apprentice, or after? insane brick'd 12:07, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

It was before. Page 227 was when Tigerstar and Hawkfrost approached him for the first time, and he becomes a med cat on page 243-244.Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 14:45, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, that's what i thought, thanks. I'll continue cleaning up his history. insane brick'd 16:17, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy- Silver Nomination
I think she's ready. I don't know were it mentions her having a creamy pelt though and that was one thing mentioned on the talk page. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  08:40, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks OK for silver. I will check Sunset for the creamy pelt. Helixtalk 15:17, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The first book we see her in as a kittypet/loner should be the citation source. -- Quailflight 09:32, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Is that Twilight? Or Starlight? Γǻώή ςτόŗm  09:07, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Twilight, I believe. I think in Starlight they only meet Smoky. insane brick'd 14:45, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, cools. They meet her when she is running don't they? With Berry, Mouse and Hazel, who at that time are unkown kits. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  09:26, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

They met her at the Horseplace, but came fleeing to the clans for help. -- Quailflight 05:15, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone planning to finish this up and make the necessary changes? insane brick'd 12:56, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Spiderleg as her former mate needs to be cited ☼Totallytawnypelt99 ☼ Time to celebrate Greenleaf! 16:23, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Multiple references to a page
I never paid much attention to family citations, but now when I checked a few, I noticed that many different references are for the same page of the same book. Shouldn't we use the same reference number for these cases? Helixtalk 17:23, June 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that we should. -- Sandy star 13:30, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you mean, could you elaborate? When you make a citation next to another thing, it makes a new number automatically, soo... insane brick'd 23:58, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Insane. Thinking about it, maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea after all - we would need to change (again) hundreds of pages, and it won't be much of an addition (only a slight aesthetics tweak), we have more important things to do I guess. :)

Kind regards, Helixtalk 06:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ah... I see how it would work, but I do think that with everything else that's going on it's best to keep that on the back burner for now, so to speak. (If we were to do something like this though... maybe, use that system for character-specific citations but then make templates like that for common citations such as shared family ones. Just a thought :P) insane  brick'd 21:19, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

This has already been done on Ferncloud's tree, and I agree with using it. It makes the citations less cluttered, especially on characters like Firestar where there's tons of them. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 01:36, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'd prefer this one. Less cluttered references are a good thing, and to me it doesn't matter if have hundreds of pages to edit. It can be done, and I'm pretty sure we can manage. Lightning talk 08:16, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I can see everyone wants to do it, but when we do implement it, can we try the template idea at least? It'd cut down greatly on the amount of work needed to make the change and also the total amount of coding and text on pages. Allow me to elaborate: Say for the citation for Ferncloud and Ashfur being Brindleface's kits, and siblings to each other - page 42 of Rising Storm. We'd make a template called or  or the like which would contain something like this:. Of course it might need a bit of tweaking from this way but I think the template system would keep it much more organized like the alive templates do. insane brick'd 11:01, June 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Insane. By all means, we should do it with a template. However, there is no need to create one for each pair; a single template can do the trick. For example, will search in a database for matches between "Firestar" and "  " and output the correct citation. We can also take this to the next level, by making the template to output the entire family tree with citations up to a defined level (e.g.  creates a family list for  up to level 3, with citations and all). Tell me what you think about it. In any case, I apologize if I stirred up things (again) with my ideas, hope you're not mad. Kind regards, Helixtalk 18:27, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Meh, it's just a bit of work to do, and I for one, am not mad. Well, I don't really get your idea, Helix. The first one. As in, wouldn't we have to create more than one for Firestar? Bluestar's apprentice, Cinderpaw's mentor, Cloudpaw's mentor, Leafpool and Squirrelflight's father etc. Lightning  talk 03:55, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Petalfur- Silver Nomination
I've worked on her page and I think it's ready. I've cleaned up her Omen of The Stars section and thats all that is really neaded. Any citations needed? Γǻώή ςτόŗm  17:54, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Great job with the article! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 18:30, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Good job, but I think a little more detail could be added to her TFA section, seeing as it was (and probably will stay) her only notable appearance, so it's worth fleshing out as much is possible :) insane  brick'd 23:58, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have TFA, I'll get Misty to give it to me at school. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  15:02, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? insane brick'd 12:56, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hollyleaf - Silver Nomination
She looks ready. → •Maple  fern•  ←  21:13, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Hollyleaf's history could be expanded quite a bit, especially in The Sight. I don't think she's quite ready.

 E c h o  star   13:07, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone working on this? insane brick'd 12:56, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

I can start expanding that. ➪'❀❤Dappleclaw❤❀'GO SHADOWCLAN!!! 21:57, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lionheart - Silver Nomination
I would like to nominate Lionheart's article. It looks OK for silver; his images should be renamed though. Helixtalk 05:09, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

The Bluestar's Prophecy section could be expanded dramatically.  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  13:56, June 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Can someone help with that? I do not have the book. Helixtalk 21:07, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone prepared to help out with this? insane brick'd 12:56, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

I have the book, but I haven't finished it yet. I could expand on his apprentice appearences if needed.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 17:18, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

I could help but i'm confused on what you want updated. Do you mean all around or something specific? Whitestorm17 01:17, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Barkface - Silver Nomination
His article looks ready-- Night s h i n e   R  16:33, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think some parts of his history could be added, I don't think he is quite ready. Also he needs some quotes, I'll find some. Whitestorm17 18:36, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

The sections where all that is said is something like "Barkface is seen at the Moonpool" can probably be expanded. I don't think that he's quite ready.  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  13:35, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I meant what Echo said. Whitestorm17 20:52, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Must be expanded. Quailflight 09:14, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ceremony template
Just a short note to avoid any communication problems - with Insane's idea, I created a template to put Warrior (and possibly other) Ceremonies on Character pages. Please tell me if it's OK, or do you have other suggestions for it. I might reduce the font size, so it won't take up so much space on the pages. Kind regards, Helixtalk 22:41, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

This is great Helix! But, we have another kind of ceremony template somewhere, but this one looks easy and simple to use Quailflight  11:31, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Warrior Ceremony is the template. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 04:19, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I know, but then I offered to Insane to create a more flexible one (can be used for all ceremonies, and up to 15 quotes with 3 speakers), Template:Ceremony, and she gave it a green light. Of course, if members prefer the first one, we can scrap this; your choice. :) Helixtalk 17:52, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Well, no offence to Goldenpaw, but I prefer this one. SCARY MONSTERS with scarier alligators  and  suffering all around 10:06, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Any other comments before this is implemented? Lightning talk 09:06, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm all for implementing it, but which one do you mean? Ceremony or Warrior Ceremony? (or possibly a combination of the two?) insane brick'd 11:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ceremony is, in fact, a more flexible version of Warrior Ceremony. Helixtalk 18:28, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ceremony. Lightning talk 03:56, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay then we can start using it wherever. I think we should only do max 1 ceremony per page though, i.e, not an apprentice ceremony and a warrior ceremony for one cat, as that'd get awfully crowded. insane brick'd 12:56, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps we should do the ceremony of their highest rank? ie. Brambleclaw's deputy ceremony, Squirrelflight's warrior, Shrewpaw (TC)'s apprentice etc. (Those are just made up; I'm not sure all exist). -- Sandy star 10:04, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Lowbranch and Twig - Silver Nominations
I fixed their family tree so now everything looks fine to me-- Night s h i n e   R  00:42, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I did a quick fix of Twig's article, and now it's complete. Both are ready.  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼  13:38, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Twig's looks alright, but is there really nothing more about Lowbranch? It seems like there was at least a bit more about her, maybe enough for a sentence or two more? If there is nothing at all more then it's ok. insane brick'd 18:08, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Let's see, mother of Skywatcher and Twig, and good friends with Pricklenose. That's all I can remember. Oh yes. She named Skywatcher Sky so he could never forget SkyClan's past. -- Quailflight 05:12, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Snowbird - Silver Nomination
Her article is good-- Night s h i n e   R  21:34, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. For such a minor character, I think she's good. I fixed some spelling mistakesSky wish  I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 04:24, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should add some quotes, I know she doesn'tsay much but there is something we could put down for her from either Eclipse or Outcast. Sadly, I can't because I have loaned my copies out to my cousin. Could someone check it out? Thanks! Whitestorm17 18:33, June 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll see whether she really has any good ones.  ♦Echostar♦ Thank StarClan for greenleaf  ☼ 

13:44, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Echo! Whitestorm17 20:54, June 15, 2010 (UTC)

She looks good, but is it at all possible to extend her fading echoes section? It lists several appearances but all very briefly - I think at least one or two of them could be expanded? insane brick'd 18:08, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone planning to look into that, or...? insane brick'd 12:56, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get to work on it :) Night  Fall 05:29, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article - July '10
Alright, I want to make sure that I didn't start the vote too late this month, and since I'm going to be away for the weekend, I'll start the discussion now so y'all can brainstorm during that time. So, fire away, who shall we feature next month? insane brick'd 19:56, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps Firestar? Night Fall 20:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Firestar needs a lot of work. I was thinking of Spottedleaf, maybe. Quailflight 21:15, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Whitestorm17 wanted Cloudtail to be featured. I think he has a pretty article-- Night s h i n e   R  21:17, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I was the one who told Whitestorm that Cloudtail might be featured. XD Yes, Cloudtail looks awesome. Quailflight 08:00, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Cloudtail would be a good idea, he has a nice article. Z  Nightsong 13:46, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

i just realized that he needs a Fading Echoes section... Z  Nightsong 13:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Firestar should be expanded more. Cloudtail or Spottedleaf could work. I'll work on Cloudtail right after school, (I'm in school now) Icefall  Icy Winds 13:54, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

What about Leafpool?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 14:22, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Cloudtail, and it was already proposed in a previous discussion. Helixtalk 14:44, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Cloudtail looks very nice :) I'll see what I can do about his "Fading Echoes" and "Battles of the Clans" sections Night  Fall 17:53, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I like Cloudtail. I can help Night with FE section. Mo   us  et  al  on   !! Here comesSUMMER!   23:41, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I think all his appearences have been covered in the BOTC section. Someone got the Graystripe story filled in, and I got the whole badger attack scene. I may be mistaken, but I think those are the only places he appears in that book Night  Fall 04:01, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

If possible, we should expand his Darkest Hour and first few books of TNPs' histories. I think that he's ready to be featured though, in any case. insane brick'd 14:18, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'll expand on his TDH section.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 14:11, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'm putting the vote up now as we are getting a bit crunched for time (why do I always do this... ;-;) But feel free to keep working on him for the next week if you have time or want to. insane brick'd 12:43, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks everybody for suggesting Cloudtail for the featured article while I was gone. :) Whitestorm17 01:25, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower - almost silver
Hi all! I expanded the Goldenflower article, making it as detailed as I could. However, I do not have Bluestar's Prophecy, so I could not complete that section (if there is more to add there). Can someone please look into it? Thanks, Helixtalk 21:00, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'll do it. Icefall Icy Winds 13:55, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I can help too. After camp, I'll grab my BP and work on it. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! It's tooHOT!   12:48, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks in advance. Also, the quote from the BP section should be moved down at "Quotes" and referenced. Helixtalk 15:41, June 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I moved the quote but haven't referenced it yet. If no one else gets to this in the next couple of days then I'll try and find the page, and also fill in the BP history. -- Sandy star 22:11, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Crowfeather~Silver Nomination
I added more information to his POT3 section and I think Crowfeather is definetely ready for silver nomination. River star Leader Of StormClan 22:39, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think he looks fine. Whitestorm17 15:21, June 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * He looks good for silver, though perhaps the Erin Hunter Chat information should be cited with a link to the chat in which those things were said? -- Sandy star 22:13, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Can I join?
Can i join Project:Characters? Smoketail88 17:21, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I'll add you in. •Maple fern•  20:43, June 26, 2010 (UTC)