Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Probably Worth Noting
Erm, hi. (afraid of treading in Cloudy's territory) Erm, I think that this may have something of note for you guys to deal with. It's the first three books in a single novel, but it also includes a shiny new short story apparently. So yeah... do with it what you will. 17:43, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, that'll probably go in the cover gallery if we can find both a front shot and a back shot. As for the short story, if it's a new one, it'll probably get a whole new page. Good fine, Shelly. I'd forgotten about that.. xD 17:46, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Woah, good find Shelly. 02:02, Sat, Feb, 18, 2012

I don't see why it wouldn't get a page. All the others short stories and plays have them.

Only problem is, it only exists in e-book form. Someone with an e-reader or at least iTunes needs to buy it and read it. 19:34, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

I could probably steal my brother's kindle and get him to buy it on there. 08:34, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Crookedstar's Promise ~ Quote Nomination
First nomination (Woo!). Found some quotes for CP. I can try to find more if necessary.

1. "No Mapleshade, you are wrong. I still have a Clan that I love, and am proud to lead, and now... now everything is precious to me here, in StarClan. My family is waiting here for me, when my ninth life has passed." Crookedstar ~page 508

2. "A destiny shouldn't be played with like prey." Goosefeather ~page 236

3. "Do you remember what I said? Do you remember my exact words? I can give you everything you ever dreamed of, power over all your Clanmates, if you promise to be loyal to you Clan above all other things. Do you make that promise? And you did! You promised! You chose to sacrifice every cat you ever loved. Your mother, your brother, your mate, and now your own kits: From that one promise, I could take them all!" Mapleshade ~page 481

4. "I want you to be the greatest warrior RiverClan has ever known-the greatest any Clan will ever know. Willowpaw is a sweet, pretty cat and I'm not surprised you're fond of her. But the sweetest traps are often the most dangerous." Mapleshade ~page 236

5. "You must promise me that you will be loyal to your Clan above all other things. What you want for yourself is nothing compared to the needs of your Clan." Mapleshade ~page 116

I like all of these personally.

I'm loving #3 and #5. They both focus more around the promise Crookedkit made; the main point of the story. 03:16, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I tried to include the promise, since it is the main plot I guess (Why else would the book be called Crookedstar's Promise?). I do really like #3 and #5 too.

My favorite's 5, personally. 06:11, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I like 5 and 1. 17:07, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

If I could only pick one, it'd have to be #5.

I like all of them ^^ These are good quotes. They tie into the book and the conflict. 02:26, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

<333 these quotes. 8D I like number 3 and 5. 07:31, 22, 02, 2012

I personally love number 3! But a close second is numer 5 :D 21:38 Wed Feb 22

I'm going to be the oddball and say I like quote two. It's not too spoiler-ish, and makes the reader want to see what Goosefeather's talking about. 21:23, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

I personally like quote 3, but isn't that the quote that's showed on like the back of the book. 21:28, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Partially, Rowan. I think that quote three is said later on in the book...after all of that. Considering I haven't read CP since I got it, I wouldn't know. 21:38, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Rowan, do you mean quote 5 since 3 isn't on the back of my book? It is mentioned later in the book though.

I think both three and five are mentioned elsewhere, aside from in the book itself, Chez. It depends on if you've got a hardcover copy or e-copy/paperback/ect. 23:33, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 21:15, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Senior Warriors?
I come to you with an idea. I was talking with CinderxLion, and she said something that perked my interest. The project doesn't have senior warriors. No, not senior members, because that exists only in PCA. Here, they will be called senior warriors. Anyways, I was thinking...since Rainlegs and I can't do everything, and both of us are very scatterbrained when it comes to remembering things... I thought it would be nice to nominate one or two users to help us out. Plus, in case we ever have to take a temporary leave from the wiki, like I did back in December, it would cause a lot less chaos and confusion as to who's in charge.

I know the project's small, and a leader and deputy should be able to manage it...but there are times where we cannot do everything. They'd have the same roles as the senior warrior/s in PC. They can archive, CBV, and set up votes, among other small technical stuff. Now, I know that not everyone in the project knows how to do that...and if you want to know, don't be afraid to ask me or Rainlegs ( although you'd be better off asking me, since Leggo is worse then I am scatterbrain-wise XD  ).

Anyways, this is it in a nutshell. I'd like one or two warriors to help out. They'd be allowed to do the same basic thing that Rainlegs and I can do. I already have her support, and the conditions and all will be sorted out when I can sit down with her and discuss this fully. If you have any suggestions on qualifications, please, say something. =) 02:59, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I'd love to volunteer, but I am new to the project. As you said on chat, I would recommend Sweetflower or Stoneclaw.

I'd love to volunteer too. There are a few active users up for the job, and Cheshire, it's fine if you're new, you know. =P Cinder and Chez are other choices. There are only like, 4 active warriors in the project, you know. I know how to put up forums from PR, and it's not hard to learn. 06:10, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea, and I shan't volunteer yet, I'm not quite worthy as such. I think guidelines would be something along the lines of 'Must have been a member for X months, Must be organised, Must be active', and all that rubbish XD 17:10, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

I actually do have to agree with Stoneclaw. Not a whole lot of users are active warriors to the project (not that they're not inactive) besides Leader, Deputy, and a couple of warriors.

I'd like to volenteer if no one minds. tehehe  I already have experience with the duties SW's have from PW. I think Cinder and Ches and Stoney would make great senior warriors. 8D 07:40, 22, 02, 2012

I'd also suggest 'Teldy if she volenteers. 07:57, 22, 02, 2012

I would suggest Stoneclaw and Cinder and DJ to be SW's, and if Atelda wanted to I would volunteer her since she is already a lead of a project.

I'd love to be a senior warrior, I think Atelda and Snoteclaw deserve it the most though. :D (NO offense to anyone else.) 17:32 Wed Feb 22

I think they should also have at least 3 nominations, quotes or for silver. 17:34 Wed Feb 22

(sorry for removing messages..I don't know what happened..never showed up..I am so sorry..) And Sweet it shouldn't matter the votes, but that they're active and devoted to the project. Also as long as they're active, they don't need to know how to put up votes or that stuff because they can learn. 01:23, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, Sweet, the number of nominations you suggested is a good idea. However, they can't all be quote nominations. I'd like at least one (two if you're lucky) to be for a silver/gold nomination, instead of just quotes. Getting an article to a higher grade is a lot more important then adding a quote. As long as they have at least one book nomination (which includes suggesting for the FAs), then they're qualified enough. They should also have been active in the project for a good amount of time too. I'll be talking to Rainy about this when she gets on chat later.

I'm glad to see that you guys are so interested in this. This is the most activity I've seen from PB in quite a few months, and I'm proud to be this project's leader. I hope we can get the technical specifications dealt with, because this looks promising. 21:27, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Skye. Quote nominations are easy. An actual article grade (silver or gold) is a lot more important then finding a quote for a book's article.

Anyway, Skye and I were discussing a few requirements in the chat. We decided that the new SW should be a member for at least two months, have at least one article nomination, and a thorough understanding of our guidelines and other rules. Does this sound okay to you guys? 01:18, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. One article nomination sounds great. 01:21, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Of course, as article nominations are hard to come by in this current time... I'd also be willing to go with two or more quote nominations. It's a lot harder to nominate a book for a status then it is to suggest a quote. It all depends. Of course, those who happen to have both would just be better off in the long run. 01:23, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

It is much harder to find an actual book to nominate since a lot of people don't have some of the books, but a quote is an easier nomination. It also takes a lot of time to actually be able to expand a book article and the cliffnotes and a publication list if necessary. Though someone who has done both is better off.

I know...But, I don't think one should become SW without knowing how to do book articles. I have a few books, but it doesn't really matter. Quote nominations are much to easy, so, yeah. 02:30, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps we could have one article nomintaion and at least one quote nomination, or at least three or five maybe quote nominations. I say this beacuse there are only so many book articles, and most of them are already at silver, but the quotes are kinda new. So yeah. 09:43, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

What Leopard says is true. There are only so many book articles that can be promoted to silver, but I think someone who is active in the project, can or could learn to put a vote up, participates in discussion, gives constructive criticism, and has made a couple of nominations book article quote or article deserves SW rights.

The only thing is it's hard to do book nominations because it takes like 5-7 months before a new book to be released, so it's harder to get a boko nomination because of how rare they are to snag. All I managed to do for an article is do most of the cliffnotes. 19:45 Fri Feb 24

Like, I'd like to be an SW and everything but I haven't managed to get a book nomination, so if we suggested one for gold and it became the FA would that count? 19:47 Fri Feb 24

That's my point, as most articles are now silver, maybe we could compensate on usefulness to the project, as such, and/or quote noms instead. Then I have no idea what we'll do when we run out of quotes too XD 19:51, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Sweet, it would. A nomination is a nomination, however which way you look at it. Rainy and I just want someone who knows their way around the project, as well as having experience in the voting process/what it takes to get an article nominated.

Leopard, usefulness to the project would count as well. Rainy and I know about the lack of nominations within the project. PB's near it's end, so, of course there would be a lot less to work on. 19:53, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I think the requirements should be:
 * 2 months in the project
 * Be active
 * Known the rules, guidelines and be able to work their way around PB
 * Have done at least 2-3 quote nominations
 * Nominated at least 1 book nomination, including suggesting FA's and them succeeding

As for the quote nominations though, their only minor. It's like saying to be a SW in PC, you must have put up a main quote for an article, so I don't think it should really matter. 00:19, 25, 02, 2012

Skye and I talked again, and decided on a few things... feedback would be helpful:
 * 2 semi-active or active months in the project (commenting on FAs, book/quote nominations, and voting). Active is preferred, but since PB is such a small project, it's not mandatory.
 * Either 1+ book nominations, or 2+ quote nominations. You won't need one of each.
 * A clear understanding of our rules and guidelines.
 * Know their way around PB.

So... as I said earlier, feedback is welcome. :3 01:16, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

DJ, I need to comment on something you said. The main quotes for a book article are vastly different then the ones for character articles. A character article's main quote can just be added in and changed at will. As for the book ones, we're voting those in, since a book article is less common then a character article. It does matter how many nominations a user has, because Rainlegs and I don't want some n00b who has no idea what this project is about as a senior warrior. 03:11, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Cloudy. Having a n00b for a SW is like a newbie that became a sysop on the first day. 17:43, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I think that those are reasonable guidelines. If it is agreed upon to have SW's, how long would nominations last? As in would it only be for a week or would it be anytime?

Well, I've let to confirm this with Rainlegs, but I was thinking along the lines of 2 weeks. Now, mind you, this also needs to go through a formal voting system, and until this gets settled and everything into place, we probably won't have anyone even think about being nominated until mid-late March. Since this is such a major thing, formal voting NEEDS to happen. 18:51, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with the voting, seeing it is such a major thing. With the limit on nominations, I think 2 weeks is good too, and 1 week until someone can take over maybe? Also with my comment above ^^ I didn't mean the book nominations, just the quote nominations... But yeah, we don't want a n00b as a SW. 23:37, 25, 02, 2012

When you asked about a nomination... I thought you were talking about SWs, not quote nominations. The quote nominations are never up for (usually) more then two weeks, so I see no need to actually have a time set on that. A quote nomination is almost as important as a book nomination, since we don't want just any random quote on a book's page. It's like that for characters because they often say tons of important things, and they're spread out throughout multiple books. 23:41, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Skye. And I do think there should be formal voting.

Chez, there has to be formal voting. Since this changes the way a project is run, we don't have a choice. 23:45, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Very true Cloudy, very true. 06:01, 26, 02, 2012

Sorry about that. I can be kind of slow at times. •Cheshire• ♣Happy St. Patrick's Day!♣ 14:41, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Twilight ~ Quote Nomination

 * "I have no side. Cats, badgers in peace could live. I speak against attack, but my kin not listen to me. For many days now they talk of blood and revenge." 

-Midnight to Leafpool and Crowfeather, page 277


 * "I go to warn Clans, tell them what is coming."

- Midnight to Leafpool and Crowfeather, page 278


 * "Her love for him tingled through her from ears to tail-tip; she had to keep believing her decision was the right one."

- Narrator, about Leafpool, page 272


 * "Deep inside, you know what is right and you must follow your heart."

- Spottedleaf to Leafpool


 * "StarClan told me they would come for me soon. This is the fate they have laid down for me." 

- Cinderpelt to Leafpool, page 308

I personally like 1 and 4. Comments? 20:46, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to agree with you on that note. Although all of them are good ones. 21:16, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I like all of them, but I love 1 and 5 ^^ 21:23, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1, 2, and 5.

I like 1. 00:24, 25, 02, 2012

One and four sound great. 01:03, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like four the best. 16:13, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I love number 5 <3 16:46 Sat Feb 25

CBV? 21:15, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Why is Jaypaw Blind? ~ Quote Nomination
All quote are said by none other then Vicky Holmes, since this is written by her. I think some of what she says about Jaypaw are quite important.

1.) He didn't need to be able to see in order to be bold, curious, and wiling to fight for what he believes in, which are all vital qualities for a hero.

2.) Jaypaw is prickly and difficult, alternating between kicking against his blindness and insisting that it doesn't matter. He knows he has the same amount of courage and physical strength as any apprentice, and he hates the fact that he can't be the same sort of warrior as his denmates.

3.) Jaypaw is a blind cat who can see in other cats' dreams, a hero who doesn't set out with the best intentions, a stubborn, difficult, prickly character who needs to win the respect of every cat in the Clans to live up to the prophecy cast many moons before he was born.

The first one is one of my favorites. 8D 21:32, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Number one is also my favorite <3 21:41, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Number 1 all the way. :) 03:07, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1 and 2.

As usual, all of them I <3, but 1 the most. 00:31, 25, 02, 2012

Number one is also my fav. 8D 01:01, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like 2. 15:30, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Number 1! :3 16:25 Sat Feb 25

Number 1. <33 17:42, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Number 1 and 3! 18:16, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

CBV? 21:16, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

After Sunset:We Need to Talk - Quote Nomination
1. Goodbye Crowfeather. I hope we don't regret that we didn't speak today.

--Leafpool saying goodbye to Crowfeather, pg 4

2. You did have a choice, and you chose to stay with them! Look, I shouldn't even even be talking to you. What if someone sees us? My Clanmates have only just begun to trust me again, and that's mostly thanks to Nightcloud.

--Crowfeather telling Leafpool to leave, pg 1

3. WindClan aren’t your cosy allies any more, not now Tallstar is dead. We’re as strong as any of the Clans now, and I think it’s time you found that out for yourselves.

--Tornear warning ThunderClan that WindClan aren't their allies, pg 3

4. You don’t have to tell me anything any more. We belong to different Clans, remember?

--Crowfeather reminding Leafpool they are in different Clans, pg 1

Okay, I like number 2 personally. Comments? <span style="">01:15, 25, 02, 2012

Torn between 1 and 2, but I think I like 1 better. 03:05, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

The first one. 03:06, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like number one :3. <span style="">15:24 Sat Feb 25

Number one all the way~ 15:28, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflict :/ Anyway, 1 and 3, I like. 15:29, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1 and 4.

I'm fond of one. It gives an ominous message for the following books. 17:41, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like numbers 1 and 2..18:18, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1 and 4. 22:24, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Tigerstar: Heart of Evil? ~ Quote Nomination
I saw that this didn't have a quote. All quotes are by Victoria Holmes since she wrote it.

1. "Tigerstar seemed to be nothing but evil from the moment Firestar set paw in the forest -- and it's impossible to deny that he did some pretty awful things, from bullying Ravenpaw and killing Redtail to trying to murder Bluestar and luring the pack of dogs into ThunderClan's camp with a trail of dead rabbits."

2. "If you look past his murderous plots to overthrow Bluestar and destroy Firestar's credibility, you'll find a brave, skilled warrior, utterly committed to protecting his Clan, proud of his kits, respectful of his ancestors, and loyal to the things that are most important to him."

3. "So much was wrong with Tigerstar's path to power, it's surprising he didn't leave a trail of bloody paw prints behind him."

4. "But one cat's enemy is another cat's hero, or at least the answer to some of their problems, and Tigerstar deserves respect for what he achieved as much as he deserves to be punished for his crimes."

I like numbers 2, 3, and 4. Good Finds! ^^ 18:41, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

The last one. Defiantly the last one. 18:49, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Number four is amazing. 18:53, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

2 and 4 are my favourites. 18:59, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Personally I like 3 and 4 the most.

2 and 4 have my vote. 22:23, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Great quotes Chez! I like number 2 and 4. <span style="">23:42, 25, 02, 2012

The last one for sure! <span style="">19:13 Sun Feb 26

Question?
So I was wondering if we could make a list somewhere of the books that already have a quality quote or something so when users want to do a quote nomination they know which books already have one? I don't know if you want to even consider this idea or not but just thought I'd ask. 18:54, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Excellent idea, Cinder! I didn't even think of that. It would prove quite useful, wouldn't it? I've got no problems with it. What about the rest of you? 18:57, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Great idea! I'd have no objection to this. 19:00, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me! <span style="">19:28 Sat Feb 25

That would be great.

This is a great idea! Something like this? I also suggest there could be a section to the list with quote nominations being commented on, and being voted on, so you know when someone's reserved/doing it, or such. <span style="">23:56, 25, 02, 2012

That makes sense to me. I think that looks fine DJ.

That would work, DJ. Thanks for allowing it as a subpage of your user page. I'd prefer that it were a PB subpage, but, that will work for now, I guess. Everything you've said goes well with me. What do the rest of you think? 00:00, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Or couldn't we just put it on the front page? 01:44, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

We could, but I keep forgetting to update that section, so it would probably be so outdated....it's better having a subpage. xD 01:49, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for formatting the page Cloudy! And yes, I think it should be a subpage of PB. <span style="">06:05, 26, 02, 2012

Should the category page be linked to on the project page then? Or is it already? •Cheshire• ♣Happy St. Patrick's Day!♣ 19:31, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

The Rise of Scourge ~ Quote Nomination
Here they are: What'cha think? I like number one. <span style="">19:20 Sat Feb 25
 * 1) "Oh yes. Blood is everything. But the only blood I'm interested in flows from my enemies. Look around you! These cats are bathed in blood. It soaks their fur and laps at their paws. This why we survive! We are BloodClan!" Scourge to Ruby and Socks after they beg him for food. Page;; 74
 * 2) "The cat we're going to meet holds command over many cats. We must treat him with respect." Boulder to Tigerstar when they go to see Scourge Page;; 76
 * 3) "My littermate told me I was small... too weak. But I've proven them wrong." Scourge thinking to himself Page;; 82
 * 4) "You'll never forget me." Tigerpaw snarling to Tiny when he wanders into the forest Page;;33
 * 5) "I think the kittypet should be taught a lesson, one he'll remember." Tigerpaw snarling about what to do with Tiny Page;; 31

Number one and three. 19:22, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1, 3, and 5.

I've never read TRoS...but I'm going to go for the first one. XD 20:47, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1 and 3, but since 3 is basically the shorter version of Scourge's Main Quote, I think 1 would be best. 22:21, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1. <span style="">00:02, 26, 02, 2012

I'm leaning towards 1. Nice quotes! 08:27, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

One is good. 11:24, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

I like 1. But wasn't there a quote that's like "I am Scourge and I have won" or something like that? I've never read it, but I remember hearing about that. If it is in there, I think that might be good. 21:25, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it's on the last page. i have it memorized if you need it...XD 21:29, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Rowan, what IS the quote? As I said, I've never read TRoS, so, these quotes are all new to me. 05:41, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Concern
Since PC might be doing it, do you think it would be necessary to check the cites on book articles to make sure all of the cites are accurate or fabricated? Just a though I had. 00:03, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's actually a good idea. However, I don't think much, if any, of the information we have is false. The cites we have for characters on book covers are ones that have been proven, whether by Vicky and the other Erins, or by the pictures seen on HC's website. 00:25, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from. I'm not actually suspicious of any of the content, but I don't see why not. I mean, what would be the point of an encyclopedia if some of the information is false? I don't see why not, but I don't think it would be necessary to check the cites of who's on the book cover though. 00:29 February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Well, there are people that think they "know" who's on the cover of each book...and they just go and add it in, with a cite. I don't usually catch these, unless I'm on my weekly run of removing character theories from book articles. ;) 00:33, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

That's true. 00:36 February 27, 2012 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea. Normally if I find a false cite I'd just delete it and either replace it with a factual cite or the source tag. I wouldn't mind going through each book articles cites if it means helping the project and wiki. <span style="">05:16, 27, 02, 2012

Shattered Peace ~ Quote Nomination
Raaaaavenpaw~<3 ...erm..anyways...

1.) "It's an honor to be allowed to stay here. I promise we won't make trouble for you, and we won't stay long."

-Willie, page 22

2.) "I'm telling you, he was teaching them death blows! Who teaches death blows to kits?"

-Barley after spying on Snapper, page 33

3.) "Stop it! They've learned their lesson, all right? There's no need to kill any more cats!"

-Minty stopping Willie from attacking Ravenpaw, page 76

4.) "We have seen that you and Barley are in trouble. Listen to us. You have as much right to live on the farm as the clans have to live in the forest. That is your home."

-Bluestar to Ravenpaw, page 87

Comments? Personally, I like number 4. 8D 21:34, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

I like 4 as well. 21:39. February 27, 2012 (UTC)

4 all the way! <span style="">05:58, 28, 02, 2012

Moonrise - Quote Nomination
I personally like 1. Comments? (I can add more quotes if necassary) 23:43, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) "You'll have to go without me, brother. Save the Clan!" - Feathertail to Stormfur, Page 271
 * 2) "I do not know when the silver cat will come, or from where, but we will know it when he arrives." - Stoneteller to Crag - Page 3
 * 3) "The predator had gone, carrying his prey with him and leaving many more vats dead or wounded. " - Narrator about Sharptooth, Page 195

Two. If you can find others though, go right ahead. 8D 05:40, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

I like 2 as well. <span style="">06:00, 28, 02, 2012

Idea
Hey all! I was just looking through the Field Guide series pages, and was looking at it's charcat. I think that we should add the "Followed by" and "Preceded by" onto it, with the correct Field Guide book that came before or follwed that book. Comments? 23:54, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the "Followed by" and "Preceded by" are for the books that are actually part of the timeline. The field guides don't really belong to a specific time in the Warriors series. Those honestly have nothing to do with the release dates of books, but in fact where they take place in the Warriors timeline. Crookedstar's Promise would be first, followed by Bluestar's Prophecy and so on and so forth. It's a good idea, Rowan, but that's not what that section is used for. ;D 05:39, February 28, 2012 (UTC)