Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Declined 4

Toadkit - Declined
This is my go at Toadkit. Please comment appropriately. Eaglebranch (Talk) 01:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, he looks to... white. G B 00:38, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * All the markings need to be blended, as they're all hard-lines between the white and color leaving no sense of fur. Shading is also needed. And the pink of the inside of the ears needs to acctually be worked into the image, rather than just painted in. Very nice start, though.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 14:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I think he looks really cute(Bramble like cute:) but like Kitsu said the patches need to be blended so it looks more natural. Other than that, ditto to first line(btw, I really like the shade of green you used for the eyes. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 22:22, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Declined due to lack of progress. Will be archived shortly. If you get time to work on it, Eaglebranch, feel completely free to resubmit.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Mousewhisker - Declined
Okay, my second attempt at a pixel. This one's better, I think. I remembered to use the correct blank this time at least!! Thoughts? (ps. I couldn't find what colour his eyes are supposed to be - I don't think it says - but I thought blue looked better than amber) --Sandstar12 19:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

This one is really great! But its up to gorse and kitsu.--Redflare 19:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Redflare x--Sandstar12 21:03, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, it looks fine other than the fact that the female blank was used. But good job! --FxC **The Waterfall** 12:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

darn-it! I didn't notice any difference between the blanks...Do I need to re-do this on the male blank? (don't worry - one day I will get it right :])--Sandstar12 15:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

No just take out the spek from the eye.--Redflare 19:19, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, think I see the difference now. I re-uploaded. --Sandstar12 20:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, you need to erase a few pixels, then the eye will be male. But otherwise this looks great. --FxC **The Waterfall** 01:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the positive comments - now I just need to wait and see whether it's accepted.--Sandstar12 19:02, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * A very nice start, but not yet ready to be accepted. It needs to be shaded to give the image a 3D quality, and the pink on the inside of the ear looks painted on and needs to be worked into the image fully.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Is this any better? --Sandstar12 17:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's improved, but take a good look at Bramble's works, and you'll see more what I'm talking about. You'll want to be careful not to smudge the outlines. You're getting there, just a bit further and it'll be great.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 03:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Now? --Sandstar12 13:32, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Mabye add some highlights.--Whenyouknowthenotestosing 16:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I added some more lighter areas. I don't want to add too much more shading or highlighting though because he could start to look like a grey cat, not a white cat with grey spots, if you see what I mean...well, I tried--Sandstar12 17:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Is this okay now? Or do I still need to do more?--Sandstar12 18:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately... I can't approve it as that character... You're right in saying that it looks like a grey cat, now. You over-killed on the patch blending... and I think you worked on a single layer in the graphics program to do your shading...  Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I agree 100% I have a question though: If I put the pixel back into the eye to make it female, change the eye colour to a yellow shade and smooth out the shading to make it a more consistent colour could I put thsi up for approval as Greypool? She's described as a grey-white she-cat with yellow eyes. This should be declined though.-- Sandy 18:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll add a new approval section for the modified image. This can be declined now. :)-- Sandy 19:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

My brain isn't working today - GreyMIST not Greypool! Greypool needs an elder blank...anyway. -- Sandy 19:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Declined. Will archive shortly.  Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Brackenfur - Declined



 * It doesn't matter to me about Sandstorm anyway...I've created Brackenfur since I know no one is working on a picture for him. The only problem is there wasn't anything about his eye color on his page so I didn't color that. I'm looking over my books now to see if I can find it anywhere though. Make comments as you please. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 02:54, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I think you should blend the tabby markings a little. Plus, what color are his eyes?Mallinois 22:30, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Do generic cat amber, as Kitsu has said before. Also the shading needs to stay on the line of the blank, instead of being wavy like it is now. But this is quite a good start, just needs minor tweaking. --FxC **The Waterfall** 23:07, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Shading wavy? I don't get what you mean by that but I'll still blend and make the eyes amber.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The tabby markings look... strange. G B 01:14, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I reuploaded Brackenfur. I smooth the tabby markings into the shading and kinda recolored him. I'm not sure why, but I think the other color was better. You guys tell me which was better for his pelt, I can always go back to it.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 06:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

The pelt color looks good. But the tabby markings need to be a bit lighter - see Brambleclaw, Dustpelt and Feathertail pics so you can look at the minimal contrast between the markings and the pelt. Also, refer to those pics when actually drawing the tabby markings, because they need to be more varied and unique...all you have right now are squiggly lines. --FxC **The Waterfall** 13:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

He looks like someone spilled burnt spaghetti on him. definetly need to fix the tabby markings.^-^Mallinois 15:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

1. It looks like someone dipped a paintbrush in dark red paint and streaked his pelt with it. 2. If you look at the top of his head, you'll see there's a very light patch. G B 16:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

That looks awesome, not quite the way I imagined him but still 97.115.120.104 16:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Here's my newest update for Brackenfur. I looked at my old Squirrelflight one for reference. The tabby markings are different and I changed the shading. Everything is more blended and smudge together to make it more in tone.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 17:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Better, but the tip of the ear needs to be brightened up a bit. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 17:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * A very nice bit of work, just a few improvements. The first thing that I notice many people have commented on, and that's the tabby markings. They just don't like like they're acctually a part of the pelt. Then the ear pink. Unlike GB, I acctually think the bottom needs to get blended in better so it's not glaring unnatural pink. And then the shading needs to get amped up, but get the tabby sorted first. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Right on it. I did everything you said even though you said try the tabby markings first. I think I'm improving with tabby markings too. The ear is darken as well and the shading is also redone. Comment please-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 00:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The improvements are looking great. Now it's just time to finish out the blending on the shading, and spread the shading over the whole picture (the head has been completely untouched by it). <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Just to let everyone know I shall probably be away for about a week or two. Though a week is the least amount of time I'd give. So if this gets moved I under stand. Just to inform everyone. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll decline just to clean things up and you can resubmit when you return. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Crowfrost- Withdrawn by User
Okay, I brought him back with blending! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 05:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't see it.--Whenyouknowthenotestosing 06:26, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

It does look a little blended, but I'd advise using smudge tool for shading and blending. Blur tool (which I am guessing you used) doesn't cover much area.-- J K  O  13:28, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

KK, I'm on it. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 16:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I dunno...the patches still look really painted on to me. I don't know what everyone else thinks though.--Sandstar12 12:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I have such trouble commenting on this one because of the layout of the white... I know too much about cat genetics and pigmentation to be truly easy on this one... The placement of the white makes me twitch because of how much their is (cat color technically comes as if poured in from the top. But the hunters do firmly ignore this fact. See Blackstar and his unnatural black feet on an otherwise white cat.). I do agree with Sandstar, though. The white patches really don't feel like a part of the pelt proper. Maybe experiment with some smudging and try and get a sense of the longhaired fur in the markings. If you look at this picture, you might see what I'm talking about. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I used the smudge tool just a bit. How's this? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 15:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The patches sort of remind me of clouds..-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 23:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * They're still not quite right, GB... They need more work. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm focusing all of my attention on Briarkit. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 23:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Foxpaw- Declined

 * I created Foxpaw nearly a month ago and finally decided to get him uploaded. The eyes are amber just like Kitsu said to do for cats that's eye color haven't been mentioned. I always pictured him with green eyes for some reason...but enough of that, make comments as you please. -- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 06:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I think this is very good. I also pictured him with green eyes though!--Sandstar12 16:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah maybe it'll be revealed in later books.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 17:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a nice start... But I'm going to say two words that I say all the time: Blend and Shade. I mention blending because none of the markings look like they've been properly integrated into the pelt. And I mention shading because you've only got a shaded line down the back. Nice color choices, though. It's a good start and just needs a bit of fine tuning to be good to go. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 15:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Here's the newest Foxpaw. I was wondering, if his eyes will finally be revealed in later books, would I have to reupload him? Anyway, I did what you said Kitsu and blended and shaded more. I don't think my new idea with blending works so well with apprentices, but I'll find one eventually. He is my first try with an apprentice after all.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 00:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If the eyes are revealed someday, it's just a little tweak and we upload a new copy over. More blending on the shading. Also, there are points in the outline where it's gotten screwed up that need to get fixed. It's a good start, just a bit more work to do. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:43, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. Just to let everyone know I shall probably be away for about a week or two. Though a week is the least amount of time I'd give. So if this gets moved I under stand. Just to inform everyone.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Declined for clutter reduction purposes. You can start fresh and resubmit when you return. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 16:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Queen blanks- Declined
I need help..........[[User:Mallinois/ The Rare Dog 00:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Stop! You never uploade an image. That's why it won't work! Now, try uploading the image first. And fix your sig! <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 00:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

This looks unnatural (no offence), it's to large, one of the back legs is to big, and some are to skinny. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B 01:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

How do you fix it? I'll work on the legs.Mallinois 01:05, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

How do you make it smaller? I made it in paint, and saved in photoshop, so how do you make it smaller?User:Mallinois 01:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Are they supposed to look pregnant? 97.115.120.104 01:53, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I made it that way. Anyway, How do you make the image smaller!User:Mallinois 02:02, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow. No one is commenting. I'll just fix the ears. They look wierd.User:Mallinois 14:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Mallinois, I don't think this will be approved unless it has a lot of work done to it(no offence). Its too unnatural looking. Maybe if you made the whole pic smaller, straightened the queen, and maybe make the fore legs higher up and the hind legs more stretched out, like the warrior bases, it would look better. Again, no offence, thanks for attempting a queen base, I would really like to get started on a queen, like Daisy. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 19:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

If you made this with photoshop, then I think I might be able to tell you how to make the image smaller. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 19:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * This is the best I can do to make the image smaller at the moment. Next time Mallinois, when you do and image in paint try changing the canvas size so it won't take up so much space. I know this image could have been a lot smaller.Trust me since I work in paint a lot when I'm not using GIMP.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I made it even smaller. -- Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the amount of work you'll need to do to make this approvals is rather large. Right now the art style isn't anywhere near the level of realism we need. We thank you for the effort. I just have to decline image until you've had time to sort out the anatomy and realism of the image. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Graystripe - Withdrawn By User
First try at a charart:) Criticizm welcome. Hawktail 21:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

This is fuzzy, and you made it with paint. You need to blend and shade, for this image needs a lot of work.User:Mallinois 21:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Better? Hawktail 22:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

a bit.User:Mallinois 22:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I think Greystripe would need the deputy blank because he's been a deputy at some point - you might want to check that with Kitsu though. Also, the shading needs to be blended in so that it looks like part of the coat-- Sandy 15:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Fixed some of the lineart that was affected. Hope it helps. Hawktail 18:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

The shading still needs a lot of work, and the pink ear looks really unatural-- Sandy 21:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * While I have a bit of time on here, the line art still seems a bit choppy. The image needs a lot of blending and shading. The pink does too because it doesn't look right. Also, Graystripe has a stripe going down his back so that does need to be added. And since Bramblclaw is deputy now...I'm not sure if Graystripe should be made with this base or not, because then Brambleclaw needs to be changed as well since he is deputy.-- Shim-Shim Shimmering Crystals 01:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll be honest, this needs A LOT of shading. It also needs to be blended.-- Jakko 123  02:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Shade. Blend. And bring the lineart back completely. You've got a decent start, but without shading and blending I simply cannot approve this. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 17:09, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Withdrwaing 97.115.120.104 22:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Oops, srry, that was me. Hawktail 22:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)