Warriors Wiki talk:Books

Outcast ~ Silver Nomination
I think it's ready to be voted silver. Comments? 05:06, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Plot summary needs to be extended. Also, can you find a reference for the cats on the cover? -- Cloud skye  12:50, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

I expanded the plot summary, but I think it can be expanded more. If anyone can help out, please do. As for the reference, I looked at the Erin Hunter Chat 5, and under the heading "The Books", it said that the title Outcast was refered to Brook and Stormfur, so the cats on the cover are probably them. 04:52, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

I'll help out where I can. I don't have the book on-hand at the current moment though. -- Cloud skye  12:39, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Cats on cover have to be referenced (or the assumption removed). Author, cover artist, jacket designer, publish date, trivia items shall be referenced. Plot summary needs to be expanded. A Publication List, listing English and foreign editions (as we have on other articles) have to be inserted. 17:10, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

I believe it's stated in the cover gallery as to which cats are on the cover. I can add that in if need be. -- Cloud skye  17:37, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 22:18, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it's being worked on, from what I know. Rainwillow and I have a deal - I'll work on the beginning of the book, to where the cats arrive in the mountains, and she'll do the rest. I don't have a copy of the book with me at the current moment, so, please bear with me. -- Cloud skye  16:43, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I expanded the end of Outcast, but I don't know if it's enough. Should I add more? 04:36, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Is there any praise? 23:26, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'll check, and add it soon. 04:32, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I checked the book, and couldn't find any praise. So I went to amazon, and found them. Comments? 04:15, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, Rainey. Anyone have any problems with a CBV? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:30, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think its ready :) 22:41, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Cloudy! :D 10:31, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. If there's no comments for 24 hours, I'll put up the vote. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:33, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, Rainey, the vote is up. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 12:37, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Allegiances Sign of the Moon - Silver Nomination
Well, they're allegiances. You can only add so much. So, they're definitely ready for silver. I checked them. 00:59, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

You're right. Looks good to me. -- Cloud skye  13:44, April 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Supporting. -- 14:31, April 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree, supporting. 19:25, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm supporting, as well. 00:27, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Since this hasn't been commented on, CBV? -- Cloud skye  16:42, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, since no one's said anything in a long while, I am putting up the vote for this. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:45, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is up. Enjoy! -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 19:00, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Into the Woods - Silver Nomination
I cited the cats on the cover. That was really all that needed to be done. The detailed plot summery and cliffnotes are good as well. What do you all think? 16:02, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

The cliffnotes look excellent. They're a bit long though. The article itself looks wonderful. I don't have this manga, so I can't say if anything needs to be extended. -- Cloud skye  17:37, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think anything needs expansion, it looks good to me. Supporting! :D 17:42, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

You know that you're allowed to CBV and put up your own votes, right? :P 22:10, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Since she's not going to do it, I'll ask. It's been a while, and no one said anything. So, CBV? -- Cloud skye  17:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't really like that system. It opens up a whole new oppertunity for vandalism; which, of course, is the last this we need right now. 20:27, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

In the infobox, publish date, author, cover artist, jacket designer needs citing. Also, we agreed a while ago that the Blurb and Praise sections will be a main section, and not a sub-section under Bookjacket (which should be removed). Also, a Publication List should be added since there are more editions (English and German). Other than that, the article is great. (Same for the other two books with the series, that can be nominated as well with minor fixes - e.g. references). 15:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've cited everything and seperated the sections. I'm just having trouble with the Publication List. I can't find dates for other volumes. 22:09, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Can you fix the wording for cite no. 2 on the main article? It's annoying the living heck out of me, and I can't fix it myself. All I see is a page link. It really shouldn't be like that, should it? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:29, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Why is Jaypaw Blind? ~ Silver Nomination
It looks good to me. Comments? 18:03, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Its been a while. Comments...? 22:05, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Whoops. Sorry, Mistystar. I've been busy, and I didn't see this here. The article looks good, but can it be extended at all? If not, then it looks excellent. -- Cloud skye  16:38, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Its okay, I understand :D I doubt it can be expanded; I read the article, and its pretty short. 22:53, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I just read the article myself, and you're right. Let's see what everyone else thinks. -- Cloud skye  17:14, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, and it's longer than I expected since the article is on an essay. At el  da  22:03, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Is there anything else I need to do? 22:40, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Its been a couple of days with no comments... 20:21, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

There's nothing that I can see off the top of my head that needs fixing. Let's wait a day or two more then I'll put up the CBA. Is that okay with you? -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:25, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Its fine :D  22:39, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Vote is up. Enjoy. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 12:37, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Voting
Okay, I have a serious question for you all. You all should know about the voting that's done around here, whether it be for FAs or Silver Nominations. What I want to know, is do you think Rainlegs and myself should be the ones to put up the votes, or should the user that nominated it put up the vote? I know it's kinda hard to find out how to do it (it took me about an hour to find the damn link), and it does seem like something a leader or deputy should do... But, I'd love to know what the rest of you think? So, comments?? -- Cloud skye  16:41, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think everyone should be able to put up their own votes. Thats how it was done recently, and thats how it should be done, since there are only two leads, and because it just makes sense for the user who nominated the article to put up the vote themselves. The user should wait for a few days, and be able to CBV their own nominations. 22:48, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you completely. I see nothing wrong with the users putting up their own votes. I just wanted to know what everyone else thought. However, with the CBV, I think that the leads should put that up themselves, but leave the putting up of the vote to the nominating member. I mean, once the lead thinks it's been enough time, then they should put up the CBV. -- Cloud skye  17:12, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thats a great idea! The leads should put up the CBVs and the nominator should put up the votes. Anyone else, comments? 20:25, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

I see your arguement. However, I don't think it's a good idea. There are many things wrong with doing this, in my opinion:
 * Not everyone knows how to do so.
 * If the link to the vote creator is flashed all around, who knows what sort of vandals will take advantage of it.
 * I know the vote topic creator link is on the front page of PC, but no one really looks there.

Mistystar: You say there arn't enough leads for them to put up the vote; so, why don't we nominate some? 20:42, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I understand the thing with vandals, but we can't nominate senior warriors. (See User Nominations at the top.) 22:05, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Big deal. The project isn't big. That doesn't mean we can have one or two senior warriors. It's not that hard. Moonflight is right. We should nominate some. We don't need to be as big as PCA to have senior warriors. We'd just have to be careful who we nominate. I'm sure making another userbox could take a matter of seconds, if done by someone who knows what they're doing. I would love to see senior warriors around here - they could help out when Rainlegs and I aren't around to monitor the project. As I said before, we could have one or two; take the most active (or who have contributed to the project the most recently), and vote on them. Mistystar would be one of my choices, along with Rainwillow, perhaps. Number of nominations would be useless, though. Because some of the ones who have the most aren't contributing to the project very much. -- Cloud skye  17:28, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

I think Moonflight would make a great senior warrior. She is one of the few active members, and has leadership skills :D So is it decided? We'll have senior warriors, and nominators will not put up votes or CBV their own nominations? 03:26, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Only leaders should put up votes. This is one of their duties (and more or less their only duty, besides archiving), so there is no point in asking users to do it, especially as putting up a vote might not be trivial for most of the users. I do not know whether PB should have senior warriors - two leads had no problem of taking good care of the project even when activity was much higher (Spring-Summer 2010). 15:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think we should have some senior warriors here, since one or two really wouldn't hurt. We would need to be careful of who we nominate, though. I think leads should put up votes, mainly because we don't have many tasks other then that. 23:44, April 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * True, true, Rainy. I'd like to see Mistystar as a senior warrior. I'd be okay with being a senior warrior, but there are other options better than me. coughcoughMistystarcoughcough. Sorry. Allergies. 15:15, May 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Need something for that cough, Moonflight? (xD) But, anyways. Mistystar is an excellent suggestion - she's very active, cares about the project and is one of the few that come and edits frequently. If anyone does deserve it, she does. -- Cloud skye  12:48, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Eclipse ~ Silver Nomination
Please keep in mind that the nominator is Mistystar, not myself. I combined all of the Eclipse nominations into one category, since that's how they're usually voted on. This is for the Main Article, Gallery and Cliffnotes. -- Cloud skye  17:09, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :D Comments? 22:01, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Can the trivia statement in the main article be cited? All I see is an empty source tag. I don't care if it's from the Warriors main site, or even Warriors Wish (which is accurate, btw). It just needs to be cited. Also, some of the cliffnotes are a little short. Extend those please. -- Cloud skye  17:30, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll work on that. Comments on the gallery? 03:31, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Publish date, author, cover artist, jacket designer, and praise items should be referenced. Blurb and Praise should not be a sub-section of Bookjacket, as agreed before. Publication list with English and foreign editions and publish dates thereof (including citations) should be added. 15:43, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Okay! Publish date, author, cover artist, jacket designer are cited! I'm still looking for the cite for the trivia statement. 23:08, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed Blurb/Praise sections, added praise reference. 00:18, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Added Publication list, but not completed...Can I just delete the trivia section? I searched it up on google but I couldn't find any references, and I also checked Warriors Wish and the main site, but there wasn;t anything about it. 00:40, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Expanded Cliffnotes. 00:51, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I've expanded cliffnotes, completed and added the publication history and citations, finished blurb and praise and citations, and cited Publish date, author, cover artist, and added and cited jacket designer. The only thing left is the trivia, which I checked all the Erin Hunter chats, Warriors Wish, and the main site, as well as google, but couldn't find a reference for. May I delete the trivia section? Everything else is complete. 21:14, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if it can't be cited, then I say remove it until otherwise stated. I mean, for all we know, someone could have put that up there as a joke. I'll check into it myself and see if I can find anything. Until then, remove it, I guess. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:21, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, anything else I need to add? 22:42, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Fading Echoes ~ Silver Nomination
The history looks good, it seems to have all the right templates, but I might have missed one. There is no praise for it yet, so I just deleted the section. It looks great and it's long so comments? At el  da  22:39, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

You need references for the cats on the cover, and a reference for the publish date. 23:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

So I could not find a reference for the cats on the cover so instead I did "is thought to be", but if this is wrong then I could take the whole thing out, but I did do the publishing date. At el  da  03:59, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know...Add a Publication List, and the Blurb and Praise sections should not be subheadings of Book Jacket. 00:41, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

The Blurb is on the Book Jacket and I deleted the Praise section, and added a Publication List. Is that okay if i deleted the Praise section? And if the Blurb suppose under the Book Jacket, then I could change it. Comments? At el  da  02:59, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with removing the praise section - since there is none, it took up space. Can the first trivia statement be cited? As for the cliffnotes, can chapters 15, 17-20 and 22 be extended? If not, then that's okay. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:24, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Archive
Can a lead archive The Rise of Scourge's vote? Its been up for a really long time... 00:55, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take care of it in just a moment. -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 17:04, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't the article have recieved Silver? There was 3/3 supporting... 21:22, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Mistystar, I am so sorry. I forgot about this. Now I feel really bad. =( -- Cloud skye ♫  The   Wind   Waker   ♫ 16:38, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Its alright :D After all, (no offense intended,) but you are pretty much the only lead really active. Any comments on Why is Jaypaw Blind or Eclipse? :P 23:08, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sometimes being the only active lead here can get distracting. I've been busy with school/pre-college stuff...eh. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:45, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I understand XD Everyone's been really busy recently. 23:15, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

June Feature Article
Yes, I know it's only the 10th of May, but with the way things are going, it's better to get this started earlier. So, does anyone have any ideas for next month's FA? I was thinking we could try something different, and possibly do an essay or a play. Since we've always done actual books, why not another part of the project? I was thinking either Tigerstar: Heart of Evil? or Spottedleaf's Honest Answer. If not, then I'm fine with a book. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 18:49, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Thats a great idea! And its not too early, since all the other projects have started considering FAs too :D We could do any of the essays or plays, as long as they're silver. 22:37, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

It's a great idea. Either one of the options you listed look good to me. 00:45, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...so now we need to decide between Tigerstar: Heart of Evil? and Spottedleaf's Honest Answer. I think both are okay, but technically I shouldn't vote because I was the one who nominated one of them for silver :P 21:07, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lol Mistystar! I think both are okay to, but we could also look over their fourms and see which one had the most votes. The one with the most could be the FA. Just saying. XD 04:32, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Mistystar, we don't have to choose between the two I suggested. All of the plays have Silver status and the only essay that doesn't have Silver is the one you currently have up for nomination. I was just throwing out an idea. -- Cloud skye ♫  De  le  te   ♫ 12:56, May 12, 2011 (UTC)