Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

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Dark Whiskers (SC) - For Approval


The key word is blur. The shading and highlights must be blurred together to make the pelt smooth and not blotchy. Use the smudge tool and the blur tool together, do whatever you can to make it a blend of light and dark, and not patches of light on a dark pelt. Everything else looks fine, Shaf. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering, where did it say that he was black? His description on his page just says that he's a big, thick-furred tom. Bring the highlight on his forehead down a bit towards his muzzle. Scarlet wind Medicine cat of SolarClan 15:55, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

His page says "large, thick-furred black tom". Even check the allegiances of Long Shadows if you don't believe me. Shaf, are you still working on this? 21:47, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry! My bad! Darken the shading his left, hind leg. Scarlet wind Medicine cat of SolarClan 23:19, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm still working on this. Forgot the date that the project opened again. :P--Shaf Girl  16:03, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred the highlights profusely, but I think all that did was make them smaller and more prominent.--Shaf Girl  16:20, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Creekfeather (K) - For Approval


Take the smudge tool to it. Make the stripes look like faint feathers brushing the pelt, using the images on Creekfeather for reference. The shading needs to be less blocked, and more subtle like shadow. You may even have to completely redo. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? 21:48, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Daisy (Alt. Queen) - Withdrawn by User


Shade the strip of white on her back, where the shading ends. If the background is transparent, the shading should have no effect on the background. I see nothing else wrong. Nice job, Elorisa. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on the back. 22:26, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I color-picked this, and it needs to be a very very light gray/silver. (barely white) Yours is completely white, change that, but other that and the other stated, it looks good. 22:28, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I am going to withdraw this because I have no time to do it, between school and other wikia duties I have. Someone else can free to work on this. 03:23, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sagepaw (A)- For Approval


Blur all shading thoroughly, particularly that on the haunch. Other than that, very nice, Dovesong12. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! Blur the tail shading and the shading on the back. -- 20:31, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'll get right to it. Merry Christmas! o3o 15:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Had to rename it. Merry Christmas! o3o 17:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 17:08, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Dawnstripe (Q) ~ For Approval


Setting 24 hours before approval. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the stripes could be a tad bit more noticible. Nice job otherwise! 03:34, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Blossomfire ₰Misty's best friend!₰ 20:08, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I think I accidentally deleted it so I copied it from here. I did my best to make the stripes more visible and blur the shading more. &#123;&#123;Nosubst&#124;User:Dappleclaw/sig}} 03:48, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Is it just me, or does the entire thing look blurred? Maybe it's my eyesight failing.. 18:48, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

You're right... it's making my eyes hurt. Sharpen the image. 21:45, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded - I tried, but it looks fine on my gimp file, so let me know if you see a difference. &#123;&#123;Nosubst&#124;User:Dappleclaw/sig}} 22:41, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Looks fine now. There is a pixel of white in her chest fur, fill that in. 22:45, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripes need to be more defined still-- 07:10, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Pouncetail (Alt. A) - For Approval


Setting 24 hours before approval. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I can hardly see the shading and highlights. Umm, add more of them, I guess. 22:02, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I can see the shading that they have, but I think that they should add a bit more, like down onto his bottom, and shade his tail. Then blur the shading and highlights. 00:07, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Is this still being worked on? 21:49, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt. A) - For Approval


Blur so that the pelt is smoothed, and not blotchy. Use the blur tool and smudge tool, whatever you can, to smooth out the patches of light and dark so it all runs together smoothly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? If so, blur the shading a lot. 21:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Macgyver (W) - For Approval


All the patch transitions and ear pink must be blurred. Shading needs to be added; use the burn tool to add shading along the back, chest, tail, legs and head. You may want to withdraw this and work with our art tutorials on your own, to learn about shading, before you continue to work on this. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks very unnatural. Try using a different, less neon shade, and blur it as well. -- 20:22, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Rainear, are you still working on this? -- 07:11, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Birchfall~Alt(ki)~


Ear pink desperately needs to be blurred; take care not to blur the lineart. Make the pink color fade into the gray, so it is not popping out. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Background also needs to be transparent. 03:35, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

ok i'll get right on itMaplepool 23:00, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

There is one pixel that you are missing; on the back foot. 22:50, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded  hows that? Maplepool 23:01, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

oh i see a mistake allow me to fix it before you comment on it^^ Maplepool 23:07, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ok NOW you may comment Maplepool 23:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Please rename it Birchfall.kit.alt.png there is an extra period there. Darken the shading, make the ear pink more reddish, darken the nose colour-- 04:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

You are still missing that extra pixel. Make the ear-pink smaller. 16:32, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:14, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

The backgound still isn't transparent. 21:43, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

um dumb question how do i make the background transparent? lol^^; sorry i dont know how...Maplepool 14:58, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I can do it for you. 23:25, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

oh PLEASE do it frostheart...I have no clue how^^; and when you do tht i'll make the changes. Maplepool 23:54, November 27, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!

nvm...i'll make the changes then frostheart,if she'll be nice enough,will make it transparent Maplepool 02:50, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!!

 Reuploaded  there i did some extra and if frostheart will mke the background transparnet i'd owe her one ^^ Maplepool 03:10, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS HERE!!

Darkstripe (Alt. W) - For Approval


Much too dark. Lighten the entire image, and then blur/smudge to smooth the highlights together with the entire pelt, so it blends together and takes the appearance of a natural pelt. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Done. 20:32, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval? (It was seconded by Bramble, and she asked me, so...yeah ;D) 02:44, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights still look like they need blurring to me. 06:01, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

They can't blur anymore, I tried. 17:34, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Move the bottom part of the highlight on his shoulder up a bit and bring the bottom part of the highlight on his flank a bit higher. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:13, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that the image needs the highlights to be moved. However, they do need to be less dark. I would smudge the pelt color into the highlights, blur it, and then redo the highlights. 16:21, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Minnowtail (Alt.Ki)


Add some shading and blur thoroughly, so the pelt is smooth. Darken and soften the ear pink, so it does not stand out so much. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

'Reuploaded. 'I sorta re-did it. I think I need more blurring, though. Blossomfire ₰Misty's best friend!₰ 19:02, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see the lineart at all; the pelt color is too dark. Try using a lighter very dark gray color. -- 20:17, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading and lighten pelt color, also maybe make the ear-pink a little bigger.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 22:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made it lighter and earpink is enlarged. But I still think the highlights should be blurred. Blossomfire ₰Misty's best friend!₰ 23:07, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's better, just maybe add some more lighter highlights on the chest and face.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 23:23, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's still too dark. If you can't make it any darker, that's okay. :) Also, there is a stray pixel on the far right paw that you should fill in. -- 23:26, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Grr... black cats are not my strong point. Let me guess. I have to make it lighter. Mistfire Owl City! 17:03, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, make it lighter a tad. :3 Then try to make the ears even (the shape). 17:06, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Lightened it. Mistfire Owl City! 17:18, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken the shading. You may want to add a few highlights to make it look less flat.-- 07:13, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Added more highlights and blurred earpink, but I couldn't shade anymore because it was too hard to blur. Mistfire Owl City! 16:08, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink the same size and maybe add some more lighter highlights.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 16:12, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Mistfire Owl City! 16:18, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is a hot-pink; tone it down, it's also kinda blotchy. Make the nose a dark gray. 23:23, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Alt. Kit)-For Approval


There is blurred lineart around the yees, which needs to be fixed. The shading on the kit's left side is too thick; lighten some of it in the center and blur the rest, to make the pelt look smoother. The kit also looks cross-eyed; make the pupils in the same position in both eyes. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

'''Re-Uploaded. '''I completely redid the image because my previous one was so terrible XD. I've fixed the eyes, shading, and pupil location. Thanks, Bramble! ^_^ -- 20:17, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading into oblivion xD 22:07, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Nice pun, Oblivion! ^_^ Better? -- 20:16, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Good job. Just darken the shading around the arms, back leg, tail, and head. 20:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh wow, this looks so nice! All I can say is make her a more gingery colour, she looks golden right now. 05:59, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks, Icy, Mosspool! :) How does she look now? -- 17:54, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink less of a hot pink, and make it a tad smaller. 01:38, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe lighten her a bit, she's a tad dark. 04:01, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Thanks for the tips, guys! ^-^ I've lightened it, fixed the ear pink, and corrected a mistake in the eyes that I didn't see before. What do you think? -- 18:03, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink. Darken the shading-- 07:19, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Plumwillow (A) - For Approval


Either lighten the shading on the back or get rid of the highlight next to it by darkening it. Then blur thoroughly. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sunspirit, are you still working on this?-- 07:22, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Sunstar (Alt.D) - For Approval


Ear pink is too dark and desaturated. Use Firestar's ear color, and see how that works. There is also a white pixel on the chest fur, near the top. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Are the changes showing? 03:36, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Earpink is too big. It's almost out of the lineart; try making it smaller. 03:37, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Made it smaller. 03:39, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and I also blurred the little orange outline. 03:49, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I still think there is something going on with the ear pink. Also, the lineart near the part of the tail nearest to the rear looks slightly blurred. -- 20:30, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

There is no blurred line-art there. Could you be more specific on what is wrong with the ear-pink? :) 20:31, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure? I guess I described the area wrong. Here:



I've drawn an arrow to the blurred spot. It's okay if you don't see it; maybe it's just me. :) Also, for the ear pink, could you make it a tad lighter? It's sorta hard to see it. ^_^ -- 20:45, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 20:52, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

That's better. :) Looks good. -- 20:59, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink is still all weird... There's a section that seems to be cut out from the original and stuck further up the ear, if that makes sense. 21:44, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better? 22:01, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the haunch, midriff, muzzle and forhead shading. Other than that it's beautiful. 22:06, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Mosspool if Bramble didn't decline it this should be ok. Blur the earpink a tiny bit. 22:36, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. 22:41, November 23, 2010 (UTC)'''

I'm not sure if this is just my computer, but I see faint lines going horizontal through the body. Blur them a bit, but don't mess up the shading/ highlights. 16:09, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Those are the texture that I gave him. 16:18, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Can you desaturate it? It doesn't look like a very natural colour. Darken the ear pink and tail shading. There is some blurred line art on the tail-- 01:23, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I won't desaturate it, it was described as a bright ginger tom. And before, people said it was too 'desaturated' and too saturate it. 04:57, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and haunch shading. 17:39, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more noticible. 21:42, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:09, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make sure the ear pink doesn't touch the line art, there is some blurred line art on the haunch. Brighten the highlights a bit and add a highlight to the tail-- 07:23, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading/highlights to the tail. Mistfire Owl City! 16:11, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

It does have shading. 23:23, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Sweetpaw (Alt. Kit) - For Approval


Return the lineart to its original color on the face; it has been paled. We'll see how it looks after that. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 04:48, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Fantastic. All I see is that the mottled spots could be darkened a tad. And the ear pink could also be darkened. 22:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:40, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

It sorta looks like the ear pink in the right ear is darker than the ear pink in the left ear. Can you fix that? If not, looks great! -- 02:48, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the right ear is darker because of the shading. 05:37, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, okay. =) Never mind. Looks good. -- 20:19, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be darkened a little, mostly on the bottom. Otherwise, it looks great! 22:16, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Cora (W) - For Approval


Lighten the entire image and blur thoroughly to get rid of the pixel-y texture. Everything else looks fine. -- 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

I can do that. Be back soon! 00:03, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mapleshade (W) - For Approval
Yeah, laugh it up, it's terrible. Bring on the comments! Let me guess, the orange is too bright? You know what, there really is an advantage to staying up late! XD 05:46, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches together more. This looks great!-- 06:15, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

As Nightshine said, blur the patches; right now they look too separated. This is fantastic! -- 20:19, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

The gray/black splotches look...kinda un-natural somehow. Maybe change the pattern, instead of keeping it as the dip and hill thing. XD Nice name I gave it, eh? 20:23, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

http://calicocat.info/calico-cat/calico-cat-1.jpg I sorta referenced off this cat. I want it to look like this. . . I love her pattern. I don't know. . . . xD I guess I can try and change it a bit, yeah. 21:53, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, Dovesong. All I see that the shading ion the black transistion should be darkened, and all the patches should be evenly blurred together. Other than that, it's marvelous. 22:02, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and, like everyone else said, the transitions. Good job :) 22:04, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm re-doing a lot of it XD I found a copy with better shading, I guess I re-did and forgot about it, and also I think Frostheart is right about the patches so I'm changing them completely XD 22:08, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

VERY good but blur the patches like said they seem very um ah unreal to meal blur them that should fix it other than that its awesome Maplepool 23:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe try smudging the patches a tiny bit? It looks sorta cartoony. :3 16:34, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I was going to, but then I forgot about it XD I'm gonna try changing the shade of ginger. . . it looks really bright to me. 21:44, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Umm, I tried again. . . better or worse? Not too sure about this. ..

Wow, this is wonderful! The only thing I can see is between that space between the forearm and haunch that's usually transparent is gray. Make that transparent again, please. Good job! Holly dapple  01:17, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Looks wonderful! There's a smudge of gray on the tip of her tail that could be blurred a bit more. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 04:00, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I hate to bring this up because the charart is really good, but i just finished Night Whispers, and she was never accutally called a tortie, just white and orange. only the authors called her a tortie. This would kinda be like that alternate. 05:42, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

OH! Really? Well, I want this to be her official image and I am not to fond of this anyways, so I will change it and make her only white and orange. Thanks, Iceheart! XD 01:57, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out that we do create descriptions by what the authors say, so this image is completely fine. And no, that does not mean she needs an alternate orange and white image. 02:10, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

While we do create descriptions based on what the author says if she appeared in the book as orange and white than her main description should match. 02:30, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Dude shes tortie we go with what the authors say not the book if the book SAID it then is more than likely a mistake the the erins didnt catch nor the proof reader IF we must do a orange and white pic i may be her Alt image but,in the ernin hunter chat it was said the shes a 'big tortie she cat with amber eyes and is cold and decated to revenge' not ginger and white

lol sorry bout' the rant...^^; Maplepool 03:20, November 28, 2010 (UTC) sadly,I was here

Ummm. . . . no. We go with what the books said, not what the authors said before they published the book. They may have changed their mind, or described her as ginger and white in the books before the chat, then forgot and addidentally said she was a tortie. They always make mistakes like that. Yeah, if the books say she's ginger and white, she's ginger and white. 03:48, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

umm...no look at what Obloivion said....well mabye should we ask Bramble cuz none of us agree?(not a threat just asking cuz like none of us know...) Maplepool 03:54, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I WAS NEVER HERE!

I looked at what Oblivion said. . . . I didn't like mine anyways, so why not just do the other one? Oblivion, the authors once said Cinderpelt was pale gray but we never gave her an alternate image for that. When was it ever decided that we do do images for what the authors say in chats? And if she was only ever described as orange and white in the books, never tortoiseshell, then her image is orange and white, not tortoiseshell. 07:20, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's fine leaving it orange and white. Darken the ear pink. darken the shading on the orange parts, darken the tail shading.-- 07:27, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

It should be orange and white, because, as Mosspool said, the authors always make mistakes - maybe they changed their mind. She was mentioned as an orange and white cat all throughout the book, not just once, as a mistake. 07:30, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well,I asked Bramble,so hopefully we'll get this squared away...cuase im like very confused but,if she says it stays,lighten the earpink then blur it other than that its great^^ Maplepool 15:50, November 28, 2010 (UTC) I was never here YOU CANT PROVE ANYTHING!

Daisy (Alt. Queen) - For Approval
So many things wrong with this charart...This is my first one for the project! 07:05, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the patch on the forehead a bit thinner, and darken the shading. Great image! 07:43, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink more noticeable. 15:12, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading. It's barely visible. -- 20:50, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

~Reuploaded~ 23:13, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

I think the ear-pink can still be slightly darker, other then that it's really good.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#0000CC">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 01:54, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the ear-pink is still un-noticeable. Shouldn't you color in the nose? 04:27, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

~Reuploaded~ 05:45, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the patch on her paws a bit more. 20:36, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the stomach a bit more. 04:27, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patch on her lower haunch by her tail a bit more. Looks lovely so far! <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 17:39, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Dewkit (Kit)- For Approval
Yeah.. this is my first Charart so, comments?<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#0000CC">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 00:36, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Either make the highlights thinner or thicken the shading. 00:46, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

It looks nice, but the ear pink is too large, and she looks very bluish, but she was only described as gray, so maybe make her, umm, grayer? XD 01:19, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 02:27, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more and make the ear pink more reddish. Thicken the shading as well. -- 02:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Blossomfire ₰Misty's best friend!₰ 19:03, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Hmm, ear-pink didn't turn out too well, oh well that can be fixed. I darkened the shading as well.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 20:30, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded again, I fixed the earpink more.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 01:12, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink is still too big. Thicken and darken the shading; something looks wrong with the eyes o_0. Maybe that's just me. XD 15:38, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I added another white pixel to the eyes to see if it might look any better.

It doesn't seem like you're doing the eyes right...read the apprentice tutorials again, maybe. 16:13, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Ok how about now?<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 16:21, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. -- 17:46, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I think it's as blurred as it can be.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 18:07, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, if you look at her chest, the contrast between the shading and highlights is too much. If you blur her chest, the look becomes more natural. But feel free to do as you please; it's your charart. :) -- 18:08, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are a bit thick. blur more. Mistfire Owl City! 18:50, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading and highlights are fine right now. 01:38, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Ok, it's as blurred as it's going to get. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 02:34, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading under the chin.-- 07:24, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I added shading under the chin.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 14:51, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Sparrowfeather (W) - For Approval
Here she is! Not so sure about the mottling... comments? 03:02, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I love it. :D Could you darken the shading, though? 03:02, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Can you also darken the ear pink and blur it? Darken the scars as well-- 03:05, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Fixed shading. 03:05, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Darkened and blurred earpink, darkened scars. 03:08, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more. I love the mottle :) 03:12, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink more still. Maybe change the colour to be more reddish. Can you also make the scars a deeper colour? They're a bit hard to see-- 03:57, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! Make the scars more red, and darken the shading/brighten the highlights. 05:39, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Darkened shading, scars, and earpink. 12:13, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oblivion, this is stunning! All I see is that you should add some shading on the scars. 13:03, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

It looks awesome :) Maybe just darken the shading a bit. 21:43, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. The shading just looks bad if I darken it. And I tried to add shading to the scars, don't know how well that turned out :D 23:28, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

If the shading won't darken, then brighten/add highlights-- 00:27, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 01:01, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading/highlights to the tail; it looks sorta flat. This is great otherwise! :) -- 01:18, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Added highlight to her tail. 01:29, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, the whole thing looks a bit flat to me still. Are you sure you can't darken the shading? I can try to help if you'd like-- 01:31, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the entire thing a bit darker? It looks light brown to me, instead of just brown, but maybe that's just me? 70.64.149.241 05:38, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I was somehow magically logged out. That was me XD 05:57, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Darkened shading and made fur colour darker. 12:24, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink a bit. Can you darken the shading more?-- 17:54, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. How's this? 21:51, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should make thhe brown lighter. 21:55, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Center the haunch highlight and make it bigger.-- 21:56, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Near the ear-pink, there is some blurred line-art. Is it the patches or the line-art? XD If it's the line-art, maybe make it less noticeable. 23:52, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Changed haunch highlight. Frostheart, there's a dark brown patch there, no blurred line art. I forgot to make the brown lighter, I'll do that now xD 21:36, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded again. Made brown lighter. 21:40, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the shading could be darkened more. Lighten the ear pink. -- 02:55, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, lighten the ear-pink. However, the shading does not need to be darkened. You can clearly already see the major color differences between the regular pelt, shading, and the highlights. If it is to be darkened anymore, it has to be blurred a ton. Which is hard to do with a complicated pelt without ruining the design. We should leave it as it as. Sorry about the long 'rant'. :3 02:59, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. Lightened earpink. I think she looks really dark now (darkened shading a bit) but that might be just me. 03:05, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the forearm, make the shoulder highlight bigger. -- 03:36, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Whoa! Where are all these critiques coming from? When I saw this picture for the first time, I thought, wow, this is amazing! There is nothing anybody could say about this - it should be approved. No offense, everybody, y'all have the right to think what you think, and I'm not trying to challenge that, but I kind of think all of your comments are unneccessary. If I were a senior warrior, this would already be approved. 08:07, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Palefoot (W) - For Approval
Comments? <font color="cornflowerblue" style="background:white">Rain breath  14:05, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

This looks great! Add a few smaller stripes to his shoulder and haunch, lighten the ear pink and make it a bit bigger.-- 17:54, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Could you darken the shading on the back? Looks superb! -- 20:21, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear-pink could be slightly bigger, other then that it's really good :)<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 22:26, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes on the tail. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:58, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is me, but there seems to be a very thin line of shading and then a 'fat' brush of shading again. This is located on the chest area, could you blur or fix that? Add some shading to the back legs. 04:53, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sparrowkit (Ki) - For Approval
My first charart! Comments? ★Moon leaf★  15:15, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I do not think you should make a charart for a cat who has an unknown description. 16:51, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh :(. Should I delete it? ★Moon  leaf★  17:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

No, you shouldn't delete it. Let's see if we can find Sparrowkit's description. XD If not, this will be declined. 17:21, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, it only says on his page "a big tabby tom". ★Moon leaf★  17:22, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Make him look like his mother, Kinkfur, she is called just a tabby and she is a brownish color. Also I would make the tabby stripes more visible.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 20:02, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

We shouldn't make a charart for a cat who does not have a cited description. 20:48, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I saw in a Browse Inside for Night Whispers that said he was a tabby tom.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 21:04, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

So should I reupload or just delete? ★Moon leaf★  21:29, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should leave it up and just make him brown, considering we made a charart for his mother whose coat colour is described only as tabby, why can't we for him? 21:51, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah that's what I think you should do too.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 22:01, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

You do have a point, Mosspool... but I don't think he should have one, not until we find a colour. 22:04, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Just because he's described as a tabby doesn't mean that we can give him any color we want. I think that unless someone who has a copy of Night Whispers (I don't) can find a cite for his pelt color, this will have to be temporary declined. But that's just my opinion, and it's not my decision to make. 22:23, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

But like I said, that's what we did for his mother so why not him? Anyways, if he doesn't get a charart then Kinkfur probably shouldn't either. 22:28, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ★Moon  leaf★  22:43, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good, just maybe darken the shading more. We still will have to wait and see if it will be used though. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 23:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded again ★Moon  leaf★  23:51, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I see your point, Mosspool, but I don't think that cats who have don't have a pelt color should have a charart. But Kinkfur's charart's been done already, so I don't think we should do anything about it. Personally, I think that we can't just assume that because a cat's a tabby that they're brown. We could temporarily decline this until we get a color for his fur, but that's only my opinion, like I said before. I really don't mean to offend anyone, just state my opinion. 00:45, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Blackclaw. Also, I don't think we should clutter up this and keep commenting. We should wait for a lead to handle this. 02:20, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I personally don't think it matters that we already made the images, what does that have to do with anything? We've taken images off a page when they're no longer needed. 70.64.149.241 05:44, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

That was me, I was somehow magically logged out XD 05:56, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Daisytail (Q) - For Approval
Wow...I can't believe it! My first charart here in a LONG time. I'm not so good with patched cats...oh well. Comments?  HA WK FI RE98  15:07, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I moved this to the correct section; next time, please put this in the charart section. There is some blurred line-art on the tail, legs, and the ear. The highlights look a tad bit blotchy too. 15:23, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe lighten the shading on the muzzle, it looks good so far. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 20:00, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches a lot. 22:48, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Add some highlights to her muzzle, shoulder, and haunch with the dodge tool and turn her nose pink. Looks nice so far. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:56, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and move up and shape her ear pink a bit, it's sort of low down and lopsided right now. There is also some blurred lineart on the haunch, tail, and some more just above the base of her tail, and then some more on her farther front leg. Oh, and a little bit on her back near her shoulder. I hope you can find all that XD (It's all just tiny smudges) 05:55, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the patches look more orange. Besides that, it looks great! ❄Blizzardfur❄ Albino Beauty❄  17:06, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blackstar (Alt. L)- for approval
Comments? 23:20, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Good job. =) Blur the shading all around. -- 23:24, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Make the background transparent as well. 23:57, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink.-- 00:27, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear-pink and shading a ton, and maybe make the highlights brighter. 00:41, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blue the ear pink. 05:52, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make his nose the same color as the ear pink. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:08, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

No, don't make it pink, just make it a lighter black. Usually black cats have black noses. 18:46, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

We have a black cat (he's semi-ours) and his nose is more grayish. Mistfire Owl City! 18:52, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

For some reason it always just shows the old version. I'll try to reupload it again later and see if it's working. 05:03, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Mothpelt (L)~ For Approval
What do ya think? 02:38, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Fantastic! Darken the shading on the brown transistion near the back. 02:47, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Though the right ear-pink looks slightly smaller then the left.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 02:56, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

The nose seems really dark. 03:02, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded05:45, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, put to many wavy things 05:46, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes are really orange in this, make them yellowier like on his warrior charart. Also, maybe move down the haunch highlight so it is more centered, and you should probably make his nose brown because the fur around it is brown. Looks really nice, though :) 05:52, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Can you lighten the hind legs and then shade them darker? XD 06:14, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the ear pink. The brown looks like it's a different shade than his warrior image, can you fix that? -- 06:35, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

The area around the right front leg is really dark. Lighten it a bit more. Mistfire Owl City! 22:03, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Worked on everything, except the nose. I think the colours good the way it is. 00:58, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but it's pink, and brown cats have brown noses. Also, you still need to move down the haunch highlight. 03:45, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and you forogt to adjust the eye colour. 03:51, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- I already did the haunch highlight before, but anyways, changed the nose and messed with the haunch highlight some more. The eye colour is exactly the same shade as the warrior image, and looks fine to me. 04:40, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the right ear pink bigger and darken the left ear pink a bit. Darken the shading under the chin a bit and darken the haunch shading-- 07:26, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 00:45, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Mistkit (SC) (K)~For Approval
Not extremely proud of this one. I wasn't sure if I should the bristled pattern on her pelt like Thistleclaw has, but I'll put it in if needed. Comments for Improvement? <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 03:54, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe blur the shading a little more. --<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 04:07, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 04:42, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look white; they need to be way less brighter. Darken the shading and make the eye color more noticeable. 04:51, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:09, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink a bit. I think you should just leave the lineart and do what we did with Thistleclaw because it looks better to ne, but that's only my opinion. 70.64.149.241 05:45, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Somehow magically got logged out XD That was me. 05:49, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 12:53, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink, add some spiky fur to her fore arms. -- 20:59, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 02:18, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any change from before. Did it upload correctly?-- 03:51, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it changed. 03:56, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

That look better? <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 05:07, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I see it now. Darken the ear pink and darken the highlights some-- 02:53, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 23:01, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Fernshade (Q) - For Approval
Comments?-- 03:51, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

This is probably just me, but her other charart seems to have less brown on it. 03:54, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, add more black to it. For the white on the tail, make it bigger? 03:55, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded added more black and mate white on tail bigger-- 04:18, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

There was a lot less, if any, brown speckles on the other one. Tone them down a little bit. 21:51, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge the white near her face some more. 21:54, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should get rid of the brown flecks on her chest, it looks kind of odd. Other then that it looks great.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 22:48, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the top of her back a bit more. Looks lovely! <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 23:16, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded took away some of the ginger specks, made back darker, blurred white on face-- 02:28, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Add/brighten highlight on her belly. 02:54, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Can you darken the shading or brighten the highlights? I can't really see the shading. 03:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded added highlights and darkened shading. -- 03:40, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (Alt W) - Withdrawn
At first I was gonna do the brown tabby, but I decided to do his Night Whispers appearance instead. The spikes are copied from his warrior image. Comments? -- 18:56, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the spikes more visible and darken the shading a tad bit. 19:06, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should do the tabby because it's actually an alternat, mentioned in his trivia. The mottled white-and-gray is his actual appearance. His old appearance - the one on his chararts - isn't accurate because all we had to go on was his image in the manga, which are never right. When the next Tweak Week rolls around, we can change his current images so they're accurate. Until then, I recommend making his alternate image tabby. 19:17, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any sense in replacing his manga appearance. It's as much as an alternate appearance as his tabby description, even more so than it, since it appeared in six different images in the manga, while the tabby appearance appeared in two sentences of a 500-page book. -- 20:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well, his current image still needs to be tweaked - which cannot be done now - so change this to the tabby. As for the manga appearance, it has already been decided that we do not do alternate images on cats that appeared different in the manga. 02:13, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm not wasting my time making a completely different charart for this. -- 16:49, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

=Discussion Area= Use this area to post join requests, questions, and general discussion.

Question?
I was randomly looking at cats and I saw that Mosspelt was also described as a bracken-colored she cat. Would she get another charart, or no? She was only seen like that in one book so probably not, but just checking.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 13:45, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I believe that if a cat has been described as a different pelt color then the cat would get an alternate charart. I'm not sure, though. 15:18, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

That is correct. Bracken-colored and tortoiseshell are fairly different. -- 03:38, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Ok so she will need an alternative image then? Not that I'll be able to do it though since I still have Dewkit up.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 03:46, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

That's correct, she'll need an alternate image. -- 07:27, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Quiting
My cat had a tumor, my dog needs surgery, and I found out that it appears that a someone stole my artwork. So I quit PCA and probably won't come back. 18:34, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

So sorry Flowerleaf. :( I hope you will feel better. Everyone has tough times now and then. Mistfire Owl City! 22:00, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Dawnpelt's Images
On Dawnpelt's page, her kit, apprentice and warrior images are captioned as "Alternate" while her other kit version (the grey one) is captioned as "Kit Version". Should this be fixed? Blizzardfur Albino Beauty  18:43, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

You're right. I think the gray one is the alternate. An admin will fix this soon. -- 20:53, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

That would be because Dawnpelt was first described as a gray she-kit. This was later changed to cream. 16:18, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Firestar(KP)
OK, here it is... my first official charart...I bet there's going to be a million problems with it... 23:46, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

First, you posted this in the wrong section. Second, I don't see a charart. Third, Firestar already has his kittypet image. Sorry. -- 23:49, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine is correct; this image will have to be declined. In future, please choose a character/rank that has not been done yet. Thank you, 03:38, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Mistyfoot the Blue-Gray Queen
In the Forest of Secrets and Rising Storm, Fireheart said Mistyfoot was blue-gray like her mother, Bluestar. Does she need an alternate version for this? And if she does, may I make it? 02:31, November 26, 2010 (UTC)Mintstarr (talk)

I'm confused. Why would she need an alternate blue-gray image if she's already blue-gray? 02:33, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

She looks a little too silver. Like I said, Firestar(heart) said Mistystar(foot) was identical to her mother and Bluestar's image is blue-gray. 02:37, November 26, 2010 (UTC)Mintstarr (Talk)

Mistystar is blue-gray and she doesn't need to be exactly identical to her mother.<font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 02:46, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes she doesn't need to be identical but shouldn't she be bluer? I see she is blue-gray but it looks a little to silver. Seeing Bluestar, Stormtail, and Rainstorm all darker than she is, she should be darker too, but you're right she is her own cat. 02:53, November 26, 2010 (UTC)Mintstarr (Talk)

It doesn't matter, you can't change the Charart because it's already on there. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 02:56, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

I give up. But I was looking at Longtail's page and he is silver, even as a warrior, looking at the citation for it. Does he need an alternate version or is there something I don't know about? I'm only trying to help. 02:59, November 26, 2010 (UTC)Mintstarr (Talk)

I don't know about that one because sometimes he was mentioned as a silver tabby or a brown warrior, though he is descibed in the allegiances as just a pale tabby. You'll have to ask a senior warrior/deputy/or the leader on that one. <font color="#6600FF">★ <font color="#3399FF">ⓇⓐⒾⓝⓌⓗⒾⓢⓅⓔⓇ <font color="#6600FF">★ 03:06, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Mistystar is already blue-gray, thus she does not need an alternate. I will archive this momentarily. --03:38, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Joining
Hi! I really want to join! Now that Night Whispers came out, I want to try to join. Here's a random cat, as an example.

Moonstream98 00:43, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to the project, Moonstream! No examples are needed to join. Soon our leader Bramble, our deputy Oblivion, or one of the senior warriors will add you in the apprentice section. Here: are the guidelines for this project. <font color="#ff0000">Scarlet <font color="#6bc3f0">wind <font color="#37e06b">Medicine cat of <font color="#e8cf2a">SolarClan 02:51, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you as an apprentice. You can also look at some tutorials for help-- 07:30, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Longtail Alternate
In Rising Storm, Longtail is said to be a silver tabby and there is proof on his page. Throughout the Power of Three and the first two of the Omen of the Stars, he is a silver tabby. May I make him an alternate warrior charart? 03:20, November 26, 2010 (UTC)Mintstarr (Talk)

No. Before Tweak Week, both of Longtail's images were brown. His elder image had to be changed to give him scars on his eyes, and while it was up for approval, someone found a citation for him being silver. The elder image was changed, but since the lists for charart being tweaked had already been chosen, his warrior image could not be changed. You will have to wait until Tweak Week to do anything about it. 03:26, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

When is Tweak Week? Mintstarr 03:33, November 26, 2010 (UTC)Mintstarr (Talk)

We don't know. Probably some time in the summer. Until then, Longtail's article will survive. -- 03:38, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well, while Project Charart was down, I made an alternate Tumblekit. Do I have to list it on the table first or can I just put it up now? 03:47, November 26, 2010 (UTC)Mintstarr (Talk)

Yes. Please list it on the table before posting it. 16:16, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Joining?
Can I join? I've been wanting to for awhile, but it was closed.

03:09, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to the project Rainlegs =) I've added you as an apprentice. Thank you for your interest in joining. Be sure to read the guidelines before posting a charart. You can look at some tutorials for help in making your chararts.-- 07:33, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Break - Nightflower and Mistflower
I'm not sure if this is the place to put this, but Nightflower_Of_ThunderClan and I are going on family vacation, so please don't mind our absence. We will both be back by Wendsday. 06:06, November 28, 2010 (UTC)