Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. G B 57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. G B 57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. G B 57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. G B 57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've improved her. How is she? G B 57 21:56, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Great! I don't see anything wrong :D. You did a pretty nice job. Sparrowsong 18:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be less circular and the shading needs to be darkened. --Hallow's Eve 09 21:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Blackclaw. Also, maybe try blurring the stomach-patch just a tad more. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the patch, but the ear pink has already been made less circular. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I see wrong is that darker shading is needed. That's all. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry it's taking so long, guys, but I won't be able to get to this for another week. Believe me, I'll do this when I get the chance. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 03:23, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Needs it's shading thickened immensely and blended. Ear pink could be toned down, but it mostly needs blurred some. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better, but go back, it looks like you blurred the line art or added black marks.Minnowclaw 12:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be more... intense Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the lineart. But Sandy, i don't get what you mean by "intense" <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Sandy, but I think she meant that it needs to be darker. (Sandy corect me if I'm wrong.)Minnowclaw 14:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well yes, that is kind of what I mean. It needs to be not just darker but a little thicker and blur it really well so it actually looks like shadows on his pelt. Some good examples of how the shading needs to look are Shadepelt and Rushtail's image which is currently up for approval. (I can't think of any more off the top of my head, sorry) It's not exactly just darker; it needs to look like a part of the pelt. I really hope that made some sense. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Done. I tried to fix it... <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 13:30, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

There should be more shading on the legs, and you might want to add a tiny highlight to the top of the herbs. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:24, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Try blurring the shading, and also, finish coloring in the far ear. After that, and doing what the above comments say, I'd think you're good to go. =) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

This has been up for a week now. Morningleaf please work on this or it will be declinded and we can't have something that is sooooo good and close to being done go to waste.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:48, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! I have, like lots of other ppl, been buried alive in homework. I'll go work on it now. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? I added shading to the legs, fixed the ear, and blurred the shading more. Can someone please tell me how to do highlights? I don't know. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:11, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

You can add highlights with the doged tool.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:12, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I added the highlight. Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 00:05, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot; right now it's very bumpy and uneven. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:29, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:32, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I'm really sorry. I'll get to it this weekend. I've been sick. Sorry. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 00:56, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Crowfeather (App) - For Approval
Hereeeeeeeeeeeeee's Crowfeather as that annoying little apprentice when we first met him. Personally I loved his snobbish personality ^_^ and spunk. You know he was determined to do anything.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:09, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I don't see anything wrong. Great job! :) -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 20:47, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Same here, and I completely agree with you about Crowpaw! He's awesome! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 16:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Shimmerpool! Darken the ear pink to a more reddish color, blur the highlights some more, and it should be ready! And I agree with you and Stealthfire, Crowpaw's awesome! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:01, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks gray. Try making it more pink.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:09, October 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Question =/ with the new rule, should I still be doing this pic or not?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 01:10, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

It's been 10 days...I'm not sure, but as long as you work on it and post something within the next couple of days it should be fine. (I think.) -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:15, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Shimmer: this was put up before the rule and you've had him on your reserved images before the new rule was made so you can finish him and then work only on current ranks. I think his ear pink needs to be darker and the shading/pelt is smeary, so a bit of blending would probably fix it. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:29, October 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok finally got him up inbetween practice and projects. How's the ear now?-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 00:36, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Much better. This is very good Simmerpool! Great job.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe blur the ear pink even a bit more than that. Otherwise, this looks great! -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:33, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

This is beautiful, Shim! I think the highlights should also be blurred a little bit. But, otherwise, he looks awesome! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 22:59, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For approval


(M) - Not much to say about these. First blank I've made where you can see both sides of the face and such, and probably the last blank I'll do for a long time. Will make a colored version over the weekend. (Maybe.) Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute. But their bellies and legs look.. weird. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

A few things though...What i think could be improved  How I would do it..... Feel free to remove this or disregard it if i'm wrong, but its lineart looks a bit odd only in this area. Summary of it: The arm has odd, unnecicary lines, the showing hind leg goes a bit up, or thick, the stomach area is oddly shaped, and the eye is a bit odd... But its fabulous in the rest.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 00:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks a little disproportionate--AutumnSky 02:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made a example and changed up the lineart a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just to let everyone know, I'm still working on these. Please don't decline. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The arm showing looks either too thin or too long, and the showing hind looks to high or thick.<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 01:09, November 3, 2009 (UTC) I really wanna see these improved, so if you need help re-lining them, i made this. And a colored version of my cat, speedy.The colored version looks terrible because i didnt shade it. Dont criticize it...<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploded. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:44, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

This might sound weird... but the stomachs look like kangaroos in that they have a kind of pouch... I think it's the way the lineart seems to overlap. Also, there are a lot of little lines that are kind of unecessary and will make colouring difficult. Try and simplify them a little without losing too much important detail. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 23:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be easier to add ear pink if the line in the ear that is closest to us was taken out, but thats just my opinion. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Well, now I'm sick. Nothing like H1N1 or anything, but my sinuses are all congested. D: Anyways, Snady could you be more specic on the lines that can be taken out and how they look like kangaroos? As for Spottedwing, I was wondering about that. While it makes blurring difficult, the leader blanks have the same kind of lines and they help define where to place the ear pink... what do you guys think? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:48, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you, Moss. Since the leader blanks are like that as well...I personally like the ears as they are, it helps define them better, as you said. Also, I hope you feel better soon! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:51, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Reedwhisker (W) for approval
Not much to say. comments? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:39, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

You may want to blur the shading alot, and lighten the black just barely.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 13:28, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, blend the shading, and also, his eyes are green. Not blue. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 13:45, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make the shading blured and bigger.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:55, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading and ear pink, but the reason why I didn't change the eye color is because his discribtion said blue and I don't remember reading that he had green. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:17, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is fine now, but you need to make the shading thicker.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:47, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Done. What else? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 21:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Nothing that I can see, good job Spottedwing.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:02, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few, if slightly picky things. Firstly, the shading could be thickened a little more as it's hugging the lineart very closely at present and could look more like shadows if it was slightly thicker. Secondly, there doesn't need to be shading on the top of the muzzle. The ear pink is also quite large and needs to be smaller for a black cat. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Darn, I can never see something like that :(-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Seriously Minnow, don't worry. I've lost track of the number of times i've put out the 24 hours and about 8 people have then flooded the image with improvements ^_^ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:03, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy, that helpped a lot. <(^-^)> HUGS!-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 20:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 22:33, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink still needs to be fixed, as Sandy said above. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:40, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the ear pink. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 17:08, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

It's not that much fixed.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 17:58, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ok hows this? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:45, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The color is better, you just need to blur it. (wow I'm typing this really fast and making a lot a of mistakes.)!!!!!!!!:) :) :) :)-- *Minn owc law*  15:38, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blured the ear pink.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 18:06, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's much better now. I think it's ready.-- *Minn owc law*  18:51, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval in 24 hours? (Yay I said it!)-- *Minn owc law*  20:05, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the paws is very messy, and part of it is only lapping at the lineart. On the hind leg that we can see, the shading would be better if it was on the bottom of the entire leg. Also, the shading on the top of the head between the muzzle and ear could be thickened some, and, personal opinion, it would look better if there was some shading on the back of the tail (use the burn tool once or twice on our right half of the tail vertically, blur, and it should be fine). Other than that, this looks very good. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. <font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Kit-Mother Blanks ~ For Approval


How do you like my suckish artwork? xD Gawd, I need a tablet... The example is better than the blanks: <BR> Comment/Suggestios? (Suggestions OTHER than leaving the drawing to experts? xD)-- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh..my..staclan..THIS IS SO CUTE! I love the way she's staring at you like "I'm not fat!" The only thing I could say is that the head looks, a bit small-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I'll make the head a little bit bigger. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:26, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Heads are bigger by a tad. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

it look a bit odd..what is she doing? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if Apprentices are allowed to critique, and I love the blanks, but there are a few spots that look a bit... out of place. XD The paw near the Kit-Mother's head looks a bit flat, and the tails could be a smidge wider, but that's all I see. (: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 21:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Everyone's aloud to critique. That's part of the learning experience, being able to say what's wrong with a picture. :) Mumble: I agree with Shigura, the paw looks flat, and the tail could be a small bit wider. And also, the tail on the shorthair could maybe brought to the left a little bit, so the bottom of the lineart on the tail is at the same curve as the bottom lineart of the tail on the longhair, giving a curve that makes it more natural. Otherwise, great job, Mumble! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but the muzzle is a little thick, that shouldn't be too hard, methinks. You put queen blanks up a while ago, right? You've really improved ^^.-- Darkhallows 07:34, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The neck looks fat.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darkhollows: Yes, I did. :) I think I tryed a freindly blanks war with melon! xD Thank you! ^-^<BR> Bramble: She's laying down while looking at you. :P Yeah, not very well-thought-out position...<BR> Everyone who offered suggestions: I'll do that. How would I make the paw look less flat? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the paw more curved, like she's trying to swat the air? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 18:14, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - The tip of the short haired looks pointy. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 11:42, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do all of those ASAP, but I'm unable to get on very often since school is eating up my free time. Please do not delete these. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:44, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - XP I meant their tails looked pointy. I guess I forgot to type tails! Oops. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 12:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

lol. I've REUPLOADED the originals, and also have modified and saved two without paws so we can see which is better. I'll do the rouder tails with the next editing section, as well as making a new colored in example. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 00:35, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Icewing(W) For approval
The first white cat I've had up for approval...Anything to fix?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 15:33, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

This is wonderful, Bracken! But, she looks a bit bluish. Make the shading more of a pale gray. Great job, though! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Bracken! But I have to agree with Hawktalon, the image looks more blue than white. And also, the ear pink needs to be more in the middle of the ear rather than on the edge of the ear like it is now. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:04, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Aren't we supposed to wait until TFA comes out before we make the TFA characters? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 18:12, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sorry, Bracken. Otherwise, Foxleap wouldn't have had to be withdrawn. Sorry, Bracken. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:19, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

wait, before I withdraw this, are there any other white she-cat warriors?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:58, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

here's Icewing now--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 19:00, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink and bluish-color still need fixed. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:11, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Much better! There's some blurred lineart on one of the front legs, though. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

There's also a line of white pixels on the top of the back leg's lineart. :) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 20:57, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 21:18, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

There's a gray line next to her front right leg. Ashshadow My Clan 00:32, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 01:00, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Cloversplash - For Approval
While going through the code of the clans cats, trying to find one which had a description. (hey, about that, if you find a cat who doesn't have a description (say, Hayberry or Greenflower) what do we do? Make one up in consideration to what is most likely? (Hayberry - ginger, and Greenflower - green eyes)????) So I made Cloversplash. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:11, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

It says that she has a white spot on her nose. Could you maybe move it down a little, or is it too hard?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:48, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in a week. Please work on this Dawnfeather.-- *Minn owc law*  01:47, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Marshscar-for approval
My first cat, comments?--AutumnSky 01:47, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

The background needs to be transparent, there need to be a few more scars, the ear pink needs to be more in the ear, the shading needs blurred, the ear pink will also need to be blurred, and the eye needs colored in. Also, the battle scars that you have right now are too bright, and need to be blurred thoroughly. And there is lineart missing in some places, and extra lineart was added in some other parts. The shading also needs to be thickened and darkened. And since his page doesn't say what color his eye is, sometimes you just have to guess. For Marshscar...I'd say give him amber eyes, since his name is Marshscar. Good job for your first charart! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Icethroat covered it all, except the bg is gray. I have a guide to simple charart on my page if you need help.-- Darkhallows 03:43, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I changed the bg to white for you, AutumnSky (unless you would prefer to be called something else). <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 00:51, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Autumnsky, this hasn't been worked on in a week, please work on it or it will have to be declined.-- *Minn owc law*  01:46, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Ripplestar - For Approval
The perfect Halloween cat, and, strangely enough, another ancient ShadowClan leader. Comments? -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:39, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you can make the orange more natural, and love the new sig!-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 23:50, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

This is very nice, Echo! I echo Minnow, and blend the patches more. Nice sig! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:14, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Woah, everyone has Halloween signatures now. I've started a trend! LOL, nice pic. Just do what Minnow and Rain said, and blur the shading, and he should be perfect. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:black; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;"> Vampiresong vants to suck your blood! |undefined 18:30, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

black and orange cats are just torties... and well...I think the patches aren't really like that...maybe make them mre...sharpish...--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 00:20, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

He's awsome Echo!!Could you just make the ears and the nose a little more pinkish? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 01:57, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

~Reuploaded.~ Blurred the patches and the shading, made the orange more natural, and made the ears and nose more pinkish. Pebble, I'm not quite sure what you mean... Could you elaborate, please? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:52, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is very dark and needs to be lightened.-- *Minn owc law*  01:44, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Screech of Angry Owl (To-Be) - For Approval
...*fidgets* Sorry, Bracken! here is the brother of Pebble. how is he? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:09, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but this is very dark and I can't see much, can you lighten it up a bit?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * 3 s;okay...like Minnow said, he IS a bit too dark so, I suggest you probably start out as a dark gray'ish coulour, then add shading 'till it looks black :3--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 21:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't he supposed to be black? But I'll lighten it anyway. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 23:34, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Yes he is black, but if it's too dark, we can't see and he might as well be purple.-- *Minn owc law*  02:34, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better, or should I lighten it more? I also blurred some of the shading and thinned it cause I thought it was too thick. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 17:33, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's still too thick on the back and belly.-- *Minn owc law*  22:08, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded Better? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q)- For Approval
--My first charart. I did the best I could. Comments =) <font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

She is completely white. Don't worry, when I started making charart, I would be that with white cats too. You need to make it a light gray, because if it's totally white, then shading won't work. Do you know how to shade? Because if not I could teach you.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

There's a few blurry sections of Lineart, and the shading should probably be thickened a bit. I can't see anything. XD (But that might be just me) The ear pink should be blurred out, and in a triangle shape. But don't worry, it's pretty good for your first charart! :) Just a suggestion; If you already know this, i'm very, very sorry. But you should go to http://pixlr.com/editor and use that. Using that program you can use the blur tool to blur shading and ear pink (Be careful not to go over lineart, and if you do, just open up paint and go over the black lines with the pencil tool) and you can use the 'Burn' tool to darken parts, etc. Once again, I'm very sorry if you already knew about pixlr. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 15:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura covered it all.-- *Minn owc law*  15:17, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

On the one cheek and behind the ear, it is lighter than the other spots. --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 15:29, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

For shading, use the burn tool. (if you already know this, ignore me), and run it over the back, hind leg, and other places that have shading. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:25, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

Okay, the lines that were blurred are a bit too thick now. And there still isn't any shading. XD (I checked. XP) There should be a few white pixels in the eye, (Look at Ferncloud's eye to see how it should look) And the ear pink should still be more triangular and blurred along the outside. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shistar Mai Talk Page! =) 17:22, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

There are only still some white parts near her face and her ear.-- *Minn owc law*  23:13, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

(S) - Maybe it's me, but the eye looks turquoise. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

hmm... my main problem is that you've now made her so far off-white that she looks pale grey... =/ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:40, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Applefur - Temporarily Declined
Yay! Applekit comes back! But we still never know what happened to Marshkit. =( Anyway, here she is. I felt kind of bad cluttering up the page, but since Adderfang's in the "24-Hour-Stage", I thought you guys would be able to forgive me. =) Comments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:03, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is good! I know that it's about the same color as her kit version, but make the ear pink brighter, but not too bright.-- *Minn owc law*  21:23, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Oh, and the reason her color is a little bit different from her kit version, is because she gets a new description in The Fourth Apprentice. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:38, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

That's dum. I mean the new description not you. Make the ear pink have more color as now it looks pale.-- *Minn owc law*  22:04, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Honeyfur, but we're not making any TFA characters until the actual book comes out. You can put this up once TFA comes out, but for now this will have to be temporarily declined. -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:44, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is to Minnowclaw: I am slightly ashamed to say that I let the fact that Applefur had a false description slide. I just thought it was the most likely, and thinking that we'd never see her again thought it didn't matter. Truth is, I've never seen anywhere that Applekit was a dark ginger she-cat. -- Bramble -san  00:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

What do we do now? I'm I in trouble?-- *Minn owc law*  00:11, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

You're not in trouble Minnow - it's my fault. I relied on the wiki page for her description. I have a plan though: 1. I'll redo her kit version so in co-insides with the accurate description. 2. I think the image is going to have to go to waste as I can't think of any other dark ginger kits... unless I can have the image back and try and do something with it? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Also, temporarily declined until TFA release (I'm glad I saw this because it's reminded me not to post Beetlewhisker yet!) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Rippleclaw - For Approval
My first warrior and first tabby. I know it needs work so comments are welcome.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:22, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! This is awesome! :) Just blur the tabby markings a bit and he'll be good to go. Nice job :). -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:46, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes don't look very tabby. Try making some of them Y shaped and more wavy so they don't look like lines. Also, blur all of the shading more.-- *Minn owc law*  00:12, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

I did not have to make y ones and this is good. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:54, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

You need to add some markings on the chest and some other places that don't have any. Also, I'd try and vary the markings a little (not necessarily y shapes but maybe some differences in length without it being in a pattern of all long down the side and all short in the middle) and lessen the number of stripes on the tail as it looks a bit crowded. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Okay I'll do that. Besides the chest which places don't have stripes? I put them just about everywhere else. -- Ashstar My Clan 20:33, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Brambleclaw14: Yes I no that they are don't need to be y's, but as Sandy said it's good to change them up a bit as they look like there in a pattern.-- *Minn owc law*  23:04, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay I fixed the stripes and blurred them. I also blurred the shading more. Is this better? -- Ashstar My Clan 21:33, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the ear pink and the shading.-- *Minn owc law*  14:30, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better?-- Ashstar My Clan 22:18, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Cave gaurd blanks
Comments? My 1st blanks!--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 00:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Double all of the line art and make the ears less pointy.-- *Minn owc law*  01:18, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

These are a good start. Make the ear closest to us much smaller though so it's in proporton and some of the joints looks a bit cartoony... such as the shoulder. Try and make it look as realistic as possible. Also, the tails are not quite right. Try and make them more realistic too. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:56, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded and redid Ugh, I hope these are better!--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

The forepaws look kind of weird, try changing them to look like our approved blank's paws. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 22:14, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the lines a bit so that they're more like the other blanks.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 22:17, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

There should be a curve on the hind leg where the heel is. Right now, it's too flat. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:47, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened and thickened lines, also rounded feet more.-- Shad owed  heart  21:48, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Should they be bigger? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:46, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Maybe make their tails thicker on the shorthaired? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:32, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Dont delete these if I don't respond. School EATS everything...-- Shad owed  heart  11:53, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Poppycloud(W) for approval
My first tortie..comments?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 00:52, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm up early... But, anyway, this is very nice for your first tortie! But on the right side of the orange patches on the haunch and shoulder there seems to be some hair-like smudges. Perhaps you could take them out, for they look a little unusual. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 12:26, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

The orange is way too bright... it should be more of a gingery colour. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear pink less...bright. --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 20:55, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Petalnose (For Approval)


Hey there everybody! Long time no see. Does anyone here even remember me? I see there are a lot of new people here. I feel so old! Anyways, here's the first charart I've done in who knows how long. I hope my skills haven't abandoned me. So go ahead... How bad IS it? I think the shading needs blended a little more, but I won't do anything until someone tells me to. :) <span style="font-family:Twilight; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 19:58, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

the ear should be pink. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 20:05, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is actually really good! The shading looks fine to me. Great job! :) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 20:50, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Thin the neck shading. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 21:40, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Hi Goldencloud! *Nuzzles* Long time no see! This is amazing. The shading's so smooth... *drool* All I see is the the neck shading upward and thin the belly shading. Love the way you did the ear pink, by the way. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:01, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Goldie! :D I thought we'd lost you. Very glad you came back. Your artist skills are still as great as ever, I see. Real quick question, unrelated to the brilliant image: I have you down as a mentor (a lot happened while you were gone; see Forum:PCA Mentors/Apprentices Prgm). Are you going to be able to do that? I don't want to overwhelm you if you're just coming back. -- Bramble -san  22:53, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

<(0o0)> WOW! I have a petalnose, but this is SOO good!-- *Minn owc law*  00:32, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Brambleclaw14 The ear is pink, but I'll saturate it a bit more. Hawktalon Thank you! :D Rainwhisker I think I get what you mean, but if I fix the wrong area let me know. Mosswhisker&Stealthfire Mosswhisker!!! *tackles* Thanks! I shall fix that. Bramble :D I have returned! You didn't think you could get rid of me that easily did you? ;) I haven't done one of these in so long, I'm surprised it actually turned out. Sandy said she was just going to keep me on the list but not assign me any apprentices until I decide I'm ready. You'll have to talk to her about that. *shrugs* Minnowclaw Wow, thank you! I doubt that though, I'd still like to see yours. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 01:37, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

ok it looks brown to me but that me. :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:17, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

You can have an apprentice if you'd like Goldencloud =) You told me you wanted to get some charart done and get back into it first... Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:38, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Shadowstar-Re-doing -_-
Well here she is! Not too proud of her, but any comments anyways?-- Mossy SC  17:53, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Humm I don't see anything

Sorry that was me! My computer froze then that's all that showed up. Icestorm Wanna meet in my nest? 20:15, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, haha. Hi! -- Mossy SC  20:16, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Humm.. I don't see any shadding Icestorm Wanna meet in my nest? 20:19, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Workin on it.-- Mossy SC  20:20, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded darkened shading.-- Mossy SC  20:27, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Okay umm I'm not sure but try lighing the earpink to a lighter pink but not too light. Icestorm Wanna meet in my nest? 20:54, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reupoaded higlighted ears.-- Mossy SC  20:57, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe thicken the shading a bit. -- Ashstar My Clan 21:27, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded thickened shading.-- Mossy SC  21:34, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Either thicken the shading or add a small highlight in the middle of the hind leg. Also, either thicken the shading on the bottom of the tail, or add a highlight on the top of the tail. I love your new siggie, by the way! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! My 2 fave colors!-- Mossy SC  21:45, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded added highlights and thickened shading.-- Mossy SC  21:53, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Add yellow to it and you'd have my three fave colors. :) For the image, the shading...is too dark. Try running the highlight tool over it once at about 28%. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:00, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

I know that she has green eyes, but now they look neon. Make them darker.-- *Minn owc law*  01:54, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

the shading looks a bit too dark. and maybe darken the eyes.=)--Darkmoon25 17:15, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

UUUUUGH!!! The shading is so messed up, I'm re-doing her. Probably won't start till tommorrow, still coughing, and it's hard to create when your cough is phlegm-y. -_- -- Mossy SC  00:26, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I feel for you Mossy. I have what ever the heck my friend David had and I had to get blood taken out of me and the doctors couldn't find my vain! Grrrr... I will hurt those doctors. Anyway, feel better!-- *Minn owc law*  01:42, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I think she looks awesome,and I don't care if other people can't see it.--Echorain3 22:28, November 6, 2009 (UTC)Echorain3

Eww, gross Minnow! Haha, the one bad thing about friends. I'm re-doing this anyways, and since I'm getting rid of that cough, I think I should have this by tomorrow! :) -- Mossy SC  23:19, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Snake - For Approval
I've gotta say, I'm not too proud of this one. He's a BloodClan cat, so I gace him a toothed collar and enhanced claws. The collar I personally hate. But nonetheless, constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 22:12, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

This looks really good but, you might want to make the teeth on his collar a tad less yellow -- Ashstar My Clan 22:40, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thankies, Ashshadow;)! Changed the teeth coloring. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 01:48, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Thin the shading on the belly and the hip. Then blur it more.-- *Minn owc law*  01:53, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed shading. Comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 02:16, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

For the shading on the hip, it sort of digs into the cat and it looks like a triangle. Shorten it to look smoother and less triangleish.-- *Minn owc law*  01:41, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the shading on the hip. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 20:30, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Sneezepaw - For Approval
I wanted to try an apprentice so here's Sneezepaw.-- Ashstar My Clan 00:57, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Look's really good! Darken the shading, though. :) <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 01:38, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Sneezepaw, worst name EVER. For the image, just darken the shading and blur it.-- *Minn owc law*  01:52, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I feel bad for Sneezepaw. I dont think we'll see him any time soon, what would his name be. Sneezestorm.-- Ashstar My Clan 22:15, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Lol! Sneezestorm. "Hey Sneezestorm, you up for patrol?" I can imagine that now... Anyway, for the actual image, now that you've blured the shading on the chest and belly, it doesn't look white any more, but rather gray. There needs to be some space in the middle that's not as dark as the rest of the gray, a really really light gray or just plain white. The same could go for part of the hind leg. Also, the shading on the gray needs blurred some more. (especially the highlights) -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:17, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I understand what you mean about the shading but, what highlights? I didn't add any should I?-- Ashstar My Clan 23:28, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad, I looked at the space in the gray that wasn't shading and thought it was a highlight. (smacks self) Sorry. I don't think you need to add any highlights unless you want to. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:52, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, it's okay. So I just need to make the chest more white and blur the shading on the gray some more, right?-- Ashstar My Clan 23:57, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Eww, Sneezestrom...reminds mee too much of the swine flu...shivers The only thing I see is that on the chest, there is a little pale-ish gray spot, looking darker than the white.-- Mossy SC  00:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that you caught that Mosspath. I'll work more on this tomorrow. Any comments besides the gray area-- Ashstar My Clan 00:46, November 5, 2009 (UTC)?

I'm better now, but I still ahve a horrible cough that won't leave meh...T.T-- Mossy SC  00:50, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I couldn't get the white to look right so I lightened the shading on that part. Is he better?-- Ashstar My Clan 20:25, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Silverpaw (A)
right this is Silverpaw. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:07, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

She's beautiful! The only thing I see is that you need to put less shading on the tail and the far ear. You can hardly see the real color :) <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:03, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:18, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I can't really see the pupil, and it looks like the lineart around the eye thickened-- Shad owed  heart  11:27, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:50, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

You altered the line art and now she looks mad. Also, make the eyes more orange as they look red now.-- *Minn owc law*  01:39, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

what bit of line art is this? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:50, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

You changed the lineart on the eye. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:03, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Mothwing-For Approval
Here is Mothwing. Comments? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 19:07, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

This looks great, Hiddensun! All I can see at the moment is that there's a couple of black pixels that need to be added to the eye. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:28, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

I looked at the eye and there is no pixel missing. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:46, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I think it's just the bright yellow pixel I saw and thought it was a white pixel. I'm so sorry. Otherwise for the image, I can barely see the ear pink, it needs thickened and brightened. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:56, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploade  ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 01:45, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Wow. Nice tabby markings! Just darken the shading and she'll be good to go. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:57, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

This looks like a golden brown cat. Try making it more of a golden one like your first image. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 22:58, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

well it says that she has dark markings. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:11, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-darken shading ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 21:16, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Braveheart - For Approval
Okay, so I messed up with Birchstar so here's the next on my list, the noble StarClan spirit, Braveheart. Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:26, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

He's awsome!!Could you make the shading in the tail a little darker, it's hard to see. But other than that he's great. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:46, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Done. I also added some highlights on a whim. Comments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:55, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the stripes. They sort of look faded into the pelt.-- *Minn owc law*  01:24, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Done Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 07:09, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Mothflight (MC) - For Approval
I'm not too fond of this image, actually. I don't feel like the shading's blurred enough, but I've blurred over it many many times... So, here's Mothflight, the first medicine cat to ever go to the Moonstone. Comments and Suggestions? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:12, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

He's awsome!!Could you make the shading in the tail a little darker, it's hard to see. But other than that he's great. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:12, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I love the burn tool, made that much easier. :) Better, or does it need darkened some more? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:20, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the tail is good, but now could you also put more shading on the body of the cats?That's all that I can see, other than that she's great! ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 01:51, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Put more shading on the body, or darken the shading on the body? There's already a lot of shading on there. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:55, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

sorry-my bad.darken the shading. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 02:12, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. It's darkened now, but it's blurred to the max. Does it look better now? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 03:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

LOL! I was going to do her, but got to fed up with the shading. Anyway, this looks great, but the ear pink is more of a hot pink. Make it duller.-- *Minn owc law*  01:22, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any better? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:35, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

This looks great to me. Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:55, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Soft Paw Blanks- For Approval
, I don't really like them xD.-- Darkhallows 03:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * literally dies of awsomeness* WOW!-- Shad owed  heart  11:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, these look great! Only one thing - the front paws look a bit... round. I know that they're supposed to be tucked in, but could you make a line inside the curve, just so that you can see where the paw is? (Sorry if that didn't make any sense - I can't explain it any better.) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Love the pose! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks you guys. || Is the paw/leg any better?-- Darkhallows 19:06, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

These are really good. The only thing is they each need their own file like the other blanks. -- Ashstar My Clan 21:03, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

The paws still look odd and they look very skinny, try making them fatter.-- *Minn owc law*  01:17, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Wetfoot - For Approval
Poor guy... wasn't mentioned much. I did like him at the Gathering in F & I, though. Constructments? -- Bramble -san  04:28, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Amazing, as usual, Bramble. :) I see nothing. Does anyone else? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:54, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Searching.. Searching... No, I have nothing, but my brain is fried from downloading all 6 hours of the warriors starlight audio book one 80 minuet disk at a time. OMG.-- *Minn owc law*  01:19, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:51, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Smallear - For Approval
Attempted to shrink the ears. Hope they look fine. -- Bramble -san  04:28, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I would make the ears a bit more small and round, like how they are in the book.-- Shad owed  heart  11:25, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I really don't want to mess with the ears... you wouldn't believe how hard it is getting them in proportion. If you look at the regular elder blank, you can see that they are bigger than the ones here. -- Bramble -san  22:20, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't he have a nick in his ear from like a hawk or something?-- *Minn owc law*  01:16, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

An owl. :) Fixed. -- Bramble -san  22:08, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Brightspirit (W) - For Approval
We all know how important this image is due to the young girl this cat represents so I want to mke it as good as possible. Constructments please x Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:21, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Sandy, this is amazing...that little girl would be so thrilled...just darken the stripes a bit, since silver tabbies generally have really dark (often black) stripes. Sparrowsong 20:07, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks Sparrowsong =) (ps. I kept the other version just in case as this one is worse a mon avis) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:01, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Sandy this is amazing! But the stripe below the jaw looks odd. That little girl watching from heaven would be so pleased. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 22:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Whoops. That was my overapping burn tool by accident. Fixed. My last update this evening lol. I need sleep! Night! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:46, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Good night Sandy! For the image, the line that goes across the muzzle looks lighter than the rest of the stripes.-- *Minn owc law*  01:14, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

fixed Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 07:07, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that is lovely! Brightspirit is a beautiful cat, and you brought that out well! That girl would be screaming with joy! I really don't see anything. :) -- Mossy SC  23:14, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Ivytail (RC) - for approval
CHOCOLATE BROWN KITTY! Sorry about that... well, my third tabby elder in a row. Sandy, can I have that list you have becuase I just going by elders?-- *Minn owc law*  02:05, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ugg, I didn't like the ear pink.-- *Minn owc law*  02:09, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

This looks really good =) I'm going to try and put my list somewhere as soon as it's finished. It should be a few days (in theory).  Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 07:03, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, go to my user page for a link to my list. 'Twas much quicker than I thought to complete. (I neglect my homework...) The image: Add a highlight to the top edge of the tail and strengthen the ones on the face and chest so they're the same as the one on the flank. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:52, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

mentor me
i wanna draw like you!get me a mentor,please! *Ivypool*

Hi Ivypool. I've added you to the list and your mentor is now Icethroat Welcome to the project! (ps. please sign with ~ thanks ) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:42, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Mist Where Sunlight Shimmers - For Approval
I'm not proud of this image. At all. I couldn't get the mud streaks to work. Suggestions? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:45, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Well she's good but isn't she only a light grayshe-cat without the mud streaks? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:16, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I thought all Tribe cats had mud streaks, do they not? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:02, November 7, 2009 (UTC)