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Morningflower-For Approval



 * My second, tortie, and my first elder. The elder blanks show up black for me, can someone fix that? I fixed up this one, though. Tell me what you think of it. -- Mlns tlk • C 14:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but i think you might need a little more ginger fur. She looks too dark, and I think it's because of the black. But, otherwise, it's good. ;) -- MU MB LE 785  19:55, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, the separation between the white and the black on the neck looks unnatural. Play around with the shape a bit more, or extend the white up into the face and make those common white-face markings. Other than that, and what Mumble just said, this is really good. -- Dawnfeather 02:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploded and changed the neck black to white and ginger connection. Better? --Mallinois Herding Talk 21:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It is better. I think the ear pink, although it is the right colour is slightly too big for her ear, especially as the fur is black. Sandy Talk! 18:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, though it may take a while to show up. --Mallinois Herding Talk 19:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that you should extend the white on the neck up onto the face, the way the is common amoung cats. also, the ginger patch on the front shoulder is an awkard shape. -- Dawnfeather 01:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The white is extended to her face, but it may take a while to show up... --Mallinois Herding Talk 14:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Instead of making an upward arch with the white into the face area, level with the eye, drop in down a bit and make it arch the other way. Also, extend the white that is on the face in a tendril up the nose. -- Dawnfeather 23:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree with Dawnfeather. Just make those changes and it should be ready, if it looks good. -- Bramble My Realm 16:12, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, but I like the old version better... --Mallinois Herding Talk 11:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I love this Mal! Sandy Talk! 11:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a gray lne on the muzzle. -- Dawnfeather 07:05, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't see a grey line... just shading. Are there any more comments otherwise this should be approved Sandy Talk! 13:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There's a chunk out of her head right before her ear that's bothering me. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 22:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Darkhallows - Senior Warrior?
Please go here to support Darkhallows becoming a senior warrior. Darkhallows, just to make it official, do you accept the nomination? G B 57 23:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Of course I accept. ^^ -- Darkhallows Lair 01:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Birchfall- For Approval


Okay, I'm really nervous about putting up art. You guys are a little intimidating. Here's my Birchfall. The changes are taking some time to come up, so the version you see might not be the most recent.

Dawnfeather, being my unofficial mentor, talked to me about it already. Hope this looks good to you! - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

More shading, and it might help to make it a little more brown.Sandwich 989 16:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree. He looks like for of an olive green color than brown. Also it doesn't look like he has any eye color. I like this, though! <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:12, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey Sparrow, welcome to project charart! There's no need to be intimidated; the point of this is to make art, give advise to other users on how to improve their art and to have fun whilst adding to the character pages :) I personally agree with the comments Sandwich and Goldencloud have made and would like to add that blending the ear pink and shading into the pelt more will give it a more realistic look. It might help to remove the tabby markings whilst you get the shading and colour right, then add them on again - that's how I always attempt tabbies. Good luck :) [ps. please sign with 4 ~s] Sandy <font color="Yellow" style="background:Black">Talk! 18:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Colored eye, fixed shading. - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

You still need to blend the ear pink and I think he needs more shading on the legs and head. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 11:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Yep, he needs more shading. But I like the stripes. Nice Job!-- Darkhallows Lair 08:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED More shading. - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

The tabby markings sort of look like they were done with crayon. You know how a crayon leaves a mark but it's kind of scratchy on the outline and it leaves tiny marks of the background through the markings? Thicken the markings a little so they don't look like crayon and maybe get rid of that mark near his head, just past his eye. -- Bramble My Realm 16:08, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Thickened stripes, More shading. - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

I can't fix my image if no one will tell me what to fix. - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

You need to not blur the stripes Sparrow - that's what's making them look so scratchy as the colour is being darkened and lightened in odd places Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 17:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Boulder - For Approval
Here is our first attempt at a character image. Critisism welcome! We think the shading turned out pretty good. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 01:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)



It's pretty good for a first image. However it needs more shading, and then the shading needs to be blended in.-- Darkhallows Lair 02:16, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, we fixed the shading (we think), though we're still having trouble blurring it. Any suggestions? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 03:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Use the tool that looks like a teardrop. If you do not have this tool, go to www.pixlr.com --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

As well as blending the shading you need to incresae the amount on the belly/tail Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 13:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks a bunch for the website! It helped so much! So, here's our blurred image.

[Edited to put this under the right section and repeat image deleted. Also please sign with 4 ~s] Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, now my comment! You only need to upload the image to this page once and if you've uploaded a new version it will show automatically. I can't see any changes yet though; have you actually uploaded the new version? Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

'''Sorry about the image thing - I didn't notice that. I changed it on here so the new one will show up. Sorry again. I swear I'm blind! I was trying to do a lot at once :)' Sandy'' <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The image looks...fuzzy, and the shading isn't blended enough.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" size="3" color="DarkBlue">Warrior♥ 16:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I reduced the blurriness a bit. I’ll work on it some more later tonight/tomorrow. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

You sharpened it... not blurred. Either that, or it's from being a jpeg. Try using .PNG-- Darkhallows Lair 21:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I blurred the shadows as much as I could...does it seem better now? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 00:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, anything else I can fix? Something is still bothering me about this picture. Should I put in highlights? (And how do I do that on pixlr, anyways?) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

The iris looks grey, it needs to be some color. On highlights, I don't use pixlr, so you'll have to wait for someone who does to comment. Other than that, I think this is pretty good. Oh, and do you want to officially join the project? I can add you in on the main page as warriors. -- Bramble My Realm 16:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The eyes are actually blue. We'll try to increase the brightness of them and see if that helps. Also, we would appreciate offically joining the project. We left a request on Gorse's talk page, but he hasn't responded. Thank you! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 17:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

On pixlr, to make highlights click on the Dodge Tool(it looks like a black ball at an end of a stick), or press O on your keyboard. Run the tool along just in front of the shading; you'll mouse will look like a regular brush then.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks for the Dodge tool! I don't think I'll bother with highlights right now, but I'm planning to do another image and I'll try it on there. I also increased the eye color as best I could without it looking...unatural. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, I need to start commenting on images to see what's really wrong. First off, Boulder is a tabby, so you'll need tabby markings. Also the shading by the hind leg that visible is smudged into the lineart, and a few more spots still look sharpened, try getting rd of them with natural color. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 01:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

(M&S) - Boulder's not a tabby - he's a skinny gray tom. Look at the allegainces in an older book or his lookup. You should never use Cats of the Cans as a reference. (Although the pictures in there do look awesome.) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 16:14, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

(M&S) - We fixed the blurred lineart. (...We think...) And "a few more spots" isn't very specific. Where, exactly do you mean? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 16:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Can you make the ear color a bit darker? It looks unnatural.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I darkened the ear pink - look any better? Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 22:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * About the tabby markings, I though before he became old, he was a silver tabby tom... *runs to check* Yep, I grabbed A Dangerous Path, and in the allegiances, it says: Boulder-silver tabby tom, formerly a rouge cat. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 00:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Ohh! It seems he's one of those cats who's all confused about their color. Who thinks I should add tabby markings? (Post below) And they might have only showed up when he was younger or something. o_O Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 23:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Nah, I really think that you should put in the tabby markings. It seems unlikely that they would dissapear as he got older. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 02:57, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - LOOKIT MY SORRY EXCUSE FOR TABBY MARKINGS! xD. So yea, I used Swallowtail for an exaple(Hope you don't mind Bramble. :3) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Oh yea, I also forgot to make the background transparent. (Although I though I did...) Can someone please tell me how to do that on Pixlr? Thank you! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:08, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Those are goos markings, but try blurring them a bit more. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Navy">Timberwolves 22:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

(M)_- Blurred tabby markings. I also shortened the ones on the front leg. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 23:53, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I like him better with tabby markings but I think you now need to increase the shading all over Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the shading! ...I think. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Crowfrost - For Approval


I decided to colour a warrior as I haven't done one in a while :) Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 13:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Oooh, Sandy, love your new sig. :) I think the shading on the black part of the pelt is too dark and distinct. Maybe lighten and blend it a little bit? -- Bramble My Realm 13:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Bramble; I was getting bored of the old one :) I've lightened the shading as much as possible and blended it more. I also remembered to make the background transparent! [I always forget that] Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! Every time we try to edit the main page, the computer freezes. /sob/ Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 14:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Sandy - the new image had to be saved a a jpeg, while the old one was a gif. Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 14:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry... I'm blind. I sorted it for you :) Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, now that's sorted, any more comments on Crowfrost? lol Sandy <font color="Purple">Talk! 14:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The shading still doesn't look right to me.--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" size="3" color="DarkBlue">Warrior♥ 16:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I said I wouldn't post again today... but where exactly and in what way Warrior? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I blended the shading right into the pelt in an attempt to make it less... wrong Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Extend the white pelt over the eye. It looks odd to have it stop right at the eye, or at least to me. -- Bramble My Realm 22:45, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I messed around with the patches on the head and I think this looks better Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Blend the white by his head a bit. I can see a distinct line beyond the original blurring. -- Bramble My Realm 16:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Better? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 17:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

No, this is good! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 04:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Dawn Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Look under his ear, there's a bold black line that needs blurring so It won't be seen. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 14:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

...That's the lineart - are you sure it should be blurred? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't. It's the line art. Keep it as it is. I think that this is ready for approval. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

No, look, it's under the lineart, and it's curved in the opposite direction. Look closely. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 15:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I still didn't get what you meant but I blurred under his ears and the rest of his head for good measure! Is it better now? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 17:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Loudbelly- for approval


I hope this is better than my Whitewing...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 04:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

He looks fine, but the outline is blurred in a few places, and he could use some highlights. To prevent this (in GIMP, at least) paste TWO images down on two layers, hit 'ctrl' + 'L' to bring up the layers menu, and click on the top layer. Then click on the wand tool and bring it to the white areas and click on delete. Then you have just the lines. Click on the bottom layer, and color that in... If that makes sense xD.-- Darkhallows Lair 19:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll fix the outlines. But what you said, does it mean I have to start all over? <font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i have the whole shading thing down, but the last thing i need to know is how to highlight.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

In the program I use (Photoshop), there's a dodge tool, and it looks like a small microphone. Just run that along the edge of the shading and it should produce a nice-looking highlight. -- Bramble My Realm 16:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

What program are you using? Oh, and I just noticed there's no head shading.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 17:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh dang i forgot head shading! I'll do it right away.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok heres my new one, im not sure if that light line is a highlight, but oh well. And Im not a huge fan of my head shading is ok, but you guys are the experts...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 22:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlight needs to be blurred some more, and the outline is still blurred in some places, most notably the back of the foreleg and the forehead. Also shrink the ear pink a little and make it a darker pink. Other than that, this is very good and I like the color you chose for his pelt. -- Bramble My Realm 15:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok heres the new one.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 20:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlights still nede to be blended into teh pelt colour a little more and the ear pink needs to be slightly smaller and blended also. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I knew something was wrong with the ear...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 14:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I lost the color I was using for the fur D:, but I blended in the highlight and rfixed the ear...<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 16:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

This is nice. I think you need to thicken some of the shading though :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Apprentice? (Maybe)

 * Here?


 * <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 00:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This seems fine. But don't color the herbs (?). -- Darkhallows Lair 02:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be a good idea to color the herbs. Unless we don't mind the herbs in all the medicine cats' mouths to possibly different colors. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 03:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we should colour the herbs in the blanks. The outline of the herbs should be a bit thicker, and should extend a bit further up as if they were in the mouth, not under the chine! A bit of chin has to be consealed by the hearbs to do this. Just put it were you think that the mouth should be, only a few pixels higher. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No, don't colour the herbs; there are so mnay different types of leaves they could be carrying that we may as well leave it up to whoever colours the cat to decide what colour green they should be - it will add to the individuality of each pixel. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 11:17, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

This blank can't be accepted, because you edited the apprentice blanks to make these. I'l either decline this, or you can start over from scratch. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 22:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

GB, we have permission to edit the blanks, and on the forum, 'Do we really need Medicine Cat Apprentice Blanks' we have basically decidec to edit the blanks to put herbs into their mouths and make them Med cats. That's what i did below. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 22:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No, we don't. Please see "A Little Misunderstanding...". <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

??? What did I miss? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

K, looks like we can use these after all. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 02:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

So, Misty, I think if you just thicken the leaves' outline and take out the color, it would look pretty good. -- Bramble My Realm 15:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, but It will take awhile, I'm not using the same computer. I think GB knows I have more than one. ;) <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

This? Oh, the last one didn't upload. -.- <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 02:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Take out the color, and make them a little less round, more like your original leaves. But I like the thickened lineart. -- Bramble My Realm 03:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Opps! I 4got 'bout the color, and I can't make them the way the first one is like. I 4got. -.- <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 22:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Just take the colour out and make the leaves more pointed; they don't have to be identical to your first ones just less rounded. Also, you nede to do the other blank so that it is the same as the three. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

ie. you need to do the longhaired tom Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Ugg. The tom got deleted. -_- But will do Sandy! <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 21:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Oakpaw-For Approval


Here's Oakpaw of SkyClan. He's my first tabby. I decided to go with the original tabby stripes.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 18:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

He looks good, but it doesn't look like you shaded him much if at all. Also he needs more tabby stripes. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 18:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Increased shading and markings.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 20:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that the tabby markings are very realistic. They are very small. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 10:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I tried making them longer, but it didn't look right to me. It looked like he had lighting all over his body.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 16:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Besides the tabby markings, it looks like he could use some more shading along his back, hind legs, front legs, and maybe a bit more along the belly. Skyfeather <font color="lightblue" style="background:white;"> '95 00:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 16:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

He still needs more shading; make it bigger and slightly darker. Also, the marking - they do need to be bigger - look at some of the approved tabby apprentices for reference Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 18:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

My computer would turn on for the last two days ( don't know why ), and sorry I haven't been able to edit this.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 23:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Bumblekit for Approval
I'm finally back! Well I see Bumblekit was taken down like I expected. So here we have Bumblekit up again. No highlights this round (i despise them on kits)just different sets of shading. I looked at some of the other kits for reference.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 22:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back, Bumblekit! I'd say he looks pretty good, but your shading confuses me. Where is the light source coming from? --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading style looks fine to me as it's what is used on a lot of approved kits. I just think it needs to be darker and slightly bigger on the forelegs. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 10:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well here we are. Finally got me some more free time. I made the shading darker and long on the legs.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 01:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Now you need to blend it into the pelt a lot more to get a natural transition and perhaps make it smaller on the neck Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Updated-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 23:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Rowanclaw - For Approval


The most gender confused cat in history. lol. What do you think? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 21:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

lol Poor poor Rowanclaw...he needs psychological help. I think he looks alright! I like your new tabby stripe style. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 00:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * He's ginger, and this is a brown color. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 00:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I tried to make him both pale ginger and a realistic colour at the same time. Is it okay? Goldencloud - thanks! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 07:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I do think he needs to be slightly more ginger as Mal said. Not fluro orange ginger but a bit darker! Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Is the colour better now? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

much. I really like this :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 17:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there anything else i can do? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:52, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I can spot is that the ear pink is barely distinguishable from the pelt. If you could make it more pronounced without making it stand out sharply, that'd be great. -- Bramble My Realm 19:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I think, personally, the problem is more that it is hard to get a realistic colour that is see-able. I made it lighter, if that helps. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I can see the ear pink now and I really can't see anything else wrong. 24 hours starting now Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Mintfur Withdrawn
What do you think? Eh.. nothing worth say besides that I have way to much time on my hands.-- Darkhallows Lair 23:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I think he/she (too lazy to look up Mintfur's gender) looks amazing! I love him/her! Only think that catches my eye is that the tabby stripes need blended in some parts. And make the ear pink a little wider. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 00:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah.. I think the stripes are blended now, are they? The ear is fixed too, I think. Oh, and Mintfur is a he ^^.-- Darkhallows Lair 01:04, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the end of the tail needs to be blended more to make the colour transition more natural and the tip of the ear needs blending in too. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:04, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Blended more. -- Darkhallows Lair 09:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

That's better :) He looks really good Darkhallows! Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 09:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * What I think Goldencloud means is that the stripes chnges from light to dark, sio the dark parts need more blending. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 15:06, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried to fix that. Is it better?-- Darkhallows Lair 04:52, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that this needs a bit more shading. There is something bothering me about the markings too. Maybe just fiddle around with them a bit. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I ran into some issues with him. I might put him back up later though.-- Darkhallows Lair 20:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (medicine cat-for approval

 * [[File:Cinderpelt (medicine cat).PNG]]


 * If there is anything wrong, please tell me. I want this picture to be perfect. My first medicine cat with the new blanks. In my opinion, Cinderpelt wouldn't look all that great if she was in a thin, slender looking medicine cat blank. The warrior blank suits her because she was supposed to be one... --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 11:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

She's too dark, as she is only specified as a gray she cat with blue eyes, and fluffy i think too. She is also a tabby. I agree that she has to be perfect, as I am also a great fan of her! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In the allegiances, it says: Cinderpelt-dark gray she-cat. So she is dark gray, and she's not a tabby, but many times in the books, she has been mentioned with enormous blue-colored eyes. Anything else? (And can someone cite tabby markings if she has any?) Plus, she's long-haired, so that takes care of the fluffy. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 13:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

On her actual page, it says that she is a gray tabby. I still don't think she should be so dark though. The ear colour is too bright. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I think she should be a bit lighter and should have tabby stripes as she is supposed to look like Cinderheart who is the reincarnation of her and is a tabby. As for the rest; more blending of the shading to make the colour transitions smoother. Also make the ear pink smaller  Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In most of the allegiances she has been in, she's dark gray. If she has tabby markings, someone please provide a direct citation from the books, page number and volume. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk

Wasn't she identical to Cinderheart?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 00:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Apologies Mal; I looked for a few references last night and the only descriptions of her within the books were of a grey she-cat. She is said to ahve 'smoky grey fur' on page 65 of the paperback edition of Forest of Secrets. You need to make her a little lighter as she looks almost black here and the shading needs blending. No tabby stripes; that should be removed from her page Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, it's fine. I lightend her and changed the ear pink. It may take a while to show up, though. I tried to keep her dark, but not too dark like my last one. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 14:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Her colour is better but the ear pink needs to be smaller still as it is kind of almost coming out of her ear at the moment. Also, the shading needs to be blended more still. Try just pulling it towards the middle of the image a bit more with the blur tool. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done, but It may be a while before it shows. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 15:08, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

She looks pretty good! I like how you did her twisted leg! If you read what my comment originally said, don't worry about lightening her any more. Things at the top of my screen are darker than when they're on the bottom. She looks fine at the bottom of the screen. :) Okay, I'm done rambling. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:26, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that she still needs to be lighter, but it may just be that it's not showing up yet. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I think this looks great, but it might hep to make it a little lighter. Cause on my computer it looks like almost black.<font color="Yellow" style="background:Orange">Sandwich <font color="Blue" style="background:Green">989 18:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you see her as dark, try standing up if you can't see some stuff. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Navy">Timberwolves 22:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

To me her colour looks fine (but I've learned not to trust my computer...). She needs a bit more shading on her near foreleg and neck though Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 06:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Echosong - For Approval
This is my second character art, and I'm rather pleased with it. I know that some of the outlines are rather blurry, but is there anything else?

The ear pink needs blending and it needs to be neatened up as some of the areas are very blurry, even inside the lineart Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 16:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC) [edited 12th: didn't mean to write in caps]

What Sandy said, and please sign with four ~s.<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 18:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I think she needs a bit more shading, and there is a lot of blurring outside the line art which needs to be fixed. The eye colour is hard to see. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 11:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! I am in love with those tabby markings! They're so soft. *tries to reach and touch one* The only problem I see is that there is coloring/shading outside the lineart. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:18, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Who made it? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Mistyfur, I think it's Smokeberry's Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sandy! Yeah, there's to much color out of the lines. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 17:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Kinkfur - For Approval


I wanted a challenge and she certainly was more difficult that your average cat! I think she turned out quite nice though, comments? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:54, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I like your idea with the back and tail, it's just in the tail, some are chunks taken out of the tail, and they don't look right. I think that you should also edit the ones on the chest to make them more pointy. The tabby markings need to be bigger and thicker, and she needs darker and bigger shading on the chest and some other areas. Wow, that must have been hard to do! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 13:32, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the tail and the chest lineart, thickened the markings by one pixel and increased the shading. It wasn't that hard, just more time consuming than usual Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 15:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

This is great! When you first said you wanted to do Kinkfur, I remember thinking, "How in StarClan does she plan to do her?" You've done a wonderful job at pulling off the kinky-ness. I give you a round of applause! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

There is still a chunk out of the top of the tail. Don't forget about the tabby markings and shading *see above for my opinion on those.* --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Goldencloud :) Dawnfeather - I'll sort the end of the tail but I did thicken the tabby markings and add more shading Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 17:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * REUPLOADED I sorted the tail but I really am not sure what exactly you want me to do with the markings and shading Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks awesome! But the tabby markings look very...well, sharp. Maybe try blurring them a bit...?--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 00:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Will do. I'm in the process of making them thicker for Dawn but I was almost finished and my cp erased my edit and I can't get them back so I need to start again from the saved version. It'll be done soon Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 07:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * REUPLOADED I made all the tabby markings thicker again, added more shading and blurred the markings as little as was possible in order to retain clarity. Any more comments for improvement? Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 12:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Featherwhisker - For Approval


Here is Featherwhisker, my first Medicine Cat. He was Spottedleaf's mentor, so he must be awesome! - S p a r r o w w i n g     talk

He needs a lot more shading and it needs to be blended into the pelt to give a natural look. Also, the ear pink needs blending and is a very bright colour... Also try adding a transition of shades of grene to the herbs as Mal has done with her Cinderpelt. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 14:54, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm in agreement with Sandy. TO Do that thin with the herbs, use the burn tool in patches, or maybe the dodge tool. Is pixlr still playing up? If it is, make sure that you give the computer a lot of time in between telling it to do things so it won' get worked up, and hopefully won't crash... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 12:49, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Yellowfang- for approval
I didn't flatten her face because it looked RIDICULUS when I tried. But here she is.-- Darkhallows Lair 21:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Her look red Dark Hollows. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 21:58, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

?? She looks red?...-- Darkhallows Lair 22:12, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

The eyes do. Also, the bottom part of the herbs are almost black! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:18, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I love the texture! She looks so pretty! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Opps, forgot to type 'eyes'. And, the herbs are really black. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:53, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Lightened eye and herbs.-- Darkhallows Lair 04:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Use the lighten tool on the top part of the herbs so it looks like the sun is hitting them, such as the shadows hit them on the bottom. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Navy; background:Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:1em; color:Navy;">Mallinois Herding Talk 15:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Done.-- Darkhallows Lair 20:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Patchfoot - For Approval


I wish Patchfoot would've had a bigger role in Firestar's Quest, I think I could've grown to like him. I hope I did the patches okay, I didn't use a reference on him. I should try something other than warriors...I will after I get Brindleface posted. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 23:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT1 Un-squared patch on upper foreleg. haha now it looks like Scooby-Doo's leg. And blurred head patch. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * EDIT2 Blurred Scooby-Doo patch. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 00:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is really good! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 23:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

♠ Dawnfeather :D Thank you! I don't see what's so great about it, but if you see something I guess I'm glad! --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 04:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * One of the patches is sort of... square. -- Darkhallows Lair 04:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

This is really good. The patch on the head needs neatening up a bit though as the edges are really smudgy. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

♠ Darkhallows Acknowledged. ♠ Sandy Thanks! I smudged the patches then went over them with the blur tool, I must have missed the head. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Mrrow? Anything else I need to work on? <span style="font-family:Slayer; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 01:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - That black patch on his shoulder....it looks less blurred than the other patches. Try blurring it just a teensy bit more. But this looks aweome! Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 19:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

♠ Mosswisker I blurred the patch! Thanks for pointing that out. I guess when I rounded it out I forgot to re-blur it. :D <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 02:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello? Anyone there? Does this need more help? <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 23:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Raindrop - For Approval
I did Raindrop. How does she look? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 05:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

She has no shading, to start with. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:56, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, she needs shading. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:21, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

She looks cute! I can see shading on her, but it's really light, I can only see it when it's at the top of my screen (I have a weirdo monitor: more contrast at top) Darken it a bit. --<span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;cyan; background:black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> Goldencloud 17:16, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

She does have shading, and I can see it easily. But whatever, I'll make it darker. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 18:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Better? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 19:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I still can only see the shading from the top of my screen, and when I can see it it needs to be blended some more. Also, the raindrop marking, instead of having a black line around it, can you just make it a gray marking like part of the pelt? -- Bramble My Realm 19:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll blend the shading more, but I see it fine. I don't know if it's your computers or what, but it looks almost too dark for me. Also, the black is part of the marking, because it says the mark is gray and black. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

GB, has it ever occured to you that it might be your computer? If no one else can see the shading unless it's at the top of the screen, I hate to break it to you, but they're probably right! About the black and gray, put the black through it randomly instead of as an outline. Maybe put it slightly lower, in make the shape slightly more raindrop-ish... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:47, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree with what Dawnfeather said. The marking on the top of the head looks weird, almost like a straight line.--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 13:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, there's no point arguing. I would suggest you make the shading a little bit darker but not too much and then take Bramble/Dawnfeather's advice on the head marking. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Whitewater - For Approval


Not much to say on this one. I tried to make her look blind in the one eye by making it sort of a pale blue with a pale pupil, but I'm not sure it worked. Comments for improvement? -- Bramble My Realm 19:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Beautiful! For the eye, I sugest making it very, very pale blue, like it has a glaze over it. Love the shading, by the way. :) Mosswisker&amp;Stealthfire 20:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest what M&S said. Make the eye a very pale shade of blue. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 23:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Akso make the pupil a pale shade of a dark color. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Timberwolves inc. 12:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded, made the eye a very pale blue, and the pupil sort of pale dark gray(if that makes sense). Anything else I can do? -- Bramble My Realm 16:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

This looks great, Bramble. :)--<font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior♥ <font face="Mistral" color="Purple">Warrior's Palace 23:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

It does look great. I think the only think is to maybe add a bit of shading on the top of the head (if there already is some then it's not showing up very well). Apart from that this is ready Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Leafpool - For Approval


Here is my Leafpool. What do you think? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 22:39, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * near the middle of the chest, the shading splits into a v-shape. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois <font color="Lime" style="background:Navy">Timberwolves 22:42, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Wait- are her eyes yellow? I thought they were amber? <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 23:52, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Yellow and amber are very similar. Sorry Mallinois, but I don't see what you mean. Can you explain in more detail? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 06:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I think I see what Mal is saying (if I'm wrong then sorry...). From where the muzzle is there is a line of white stretching down to the chest spliting the shading in a kind of 'V' shape. Also, where the foreleg shading connects to the chest shading there is astrange shape made by the shading that needs smoothing out. You know I love this image Dawn :) Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, i still don't understand. One of those things that are just half impossible to explain! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't really know how to explain Mallinois' thing properly as I'm not sure I even understood it properly myself. What I was saying is that above the near foreleg where you have the shading, this is connected in a thin line to the chest shading leaving a triangular gap - you need to round this off and make the gap less triangular as it looks strange. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 13:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading seems alright to me, but she looks more ginger than brown.-- Darkhallows Lair 20:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Joining the Project
Hi Bramble I was wondering if I could join the project. I just need a few guidlines.<font color="Lime" style="background:yellow">Stonestar <font color="Red" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path!


 * I'm a senior warrior, so I'll add you to the project, and I can give you some tips on Charart. (We're sort of running an "unofficial mentoring program", see another section on the talk page here) First off, you need to have a program like GIMP or Photoshop, if you don't use pixlr.com. The cat needs to have shading, and if it's a tabby tabby stripes that are blended. --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color;Silver; background:#6699FF; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:Silver;">Mallinois Timberwolves inc. 11:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Mousefur-for approval
I have NO clue how or why this was deleted. My internet was down and I couldn't get on to fix it. Can I please keep working on it?! Minnowclaw 23:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It was probably deleted because it hadn't been worked on in a certain amount of time. :) I think she looks good, except she needs more shading. <span style="font-family:Anime Ace; color;#00B8E6; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds:3em; color:#00B8E6;">Goldencloud 00:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Can I still work on it? If so, where should I put more shading?Minnowclaw 02:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Of course you can still work on her - she was taken down due to lack of work but nobody knew it was because you couldn't get onto the computer. If that ever happens feel free to resubmit as you have done here. As for the image itself: More shading could be put on the head and it all needs to be a bit bigger if you ask me. Blend all your shading and perhaps change the ear colour as it's kind of purplish. You could also try a highlight on the back to add dimension by using the lighten tool. Sandy <font color="IceBlue">Talk! 08:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Which one do you think is better? Minnowclaw 22:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Silverstream-for Approval
His first true love, Silverstream. Tell me what you think of her. Pixlr started acting funny near the end with her shading and blending so I'll get around to fixing that later cause its bugging the crap out of me.-- ♪Shimmer ♫ 03:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Lionheart - For Approval


Lionheart, the brave warrior. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:Gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather 09:42, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Sootfur-for approval
Nothing much to say. Excuse my inactivity, I've had tons of stuff to do.-- Darkhallows Lair 21:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice. But his ears look circular. And I mean the pink part. <font color="LightBlue" style="background:Red">Lavastream, <font color="LightPurple" style="background:Pink">SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 21:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)