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Silt (Ro) - CBA
Sooo, here's the charart and stuff... 21:33, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe smooth out the shading on the tail and legs Shypaw11 (talk) 23:02, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded ^-^ 23:22, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

it should be rogue for the file name not rouge. 23:45, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps even out the texture a tad -- it kinda looks stripey

Define the light on the legs. 23:50, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the main body some more? 14:06, 10/30/2016

Reuploaded Smoothed out shading, added actual lighting, changed file name. 15:46, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading, and check for shading leakage on the legs

Reuploaded 18:29, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

add shading depth (on the head, tail, body especially).

I think the light on the legs still needs to be defined more. Add the light on the very fronts of the legs. Also on the tail some. 01:35, 10/31/2016

The texture looks kind of like stripes more than texture, if that makes sense. Thin out the lines and/or smooth them more. It should also follow the form of the body more and if at all possible, the light source. Some people feel that adding deeper texture to shaded areas will make it too dark, though. Just a suggestion on how to make it more obvious that it is indeed texture. If you need any clarification, let me know. Sometimes what I type out can seem vague and scrambled, seeing as it is during breaks between my daily life and I kind of just fire it out as I come up with it. 23:02 Mon Oct 31

Reuploaded Best I can do, I'm not very good >.< 01:41, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

smooth out the texture somemore, it still looks like stripes. make it more softer looking as —  Minkclaw   01:54, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading on body and tail especially

Reuploaded 23:11, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

The shading around the belly and ==> hind leg is a little blotchy so smoothen/blur it out. --  20:25, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded 14:27, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Make sure the image is full size when you upload it. In addition, the image looks really grey overall. Can you define the light on the face, legs, and tail? 00:05, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Baaassically redid the whole shading. 19:21, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

The shading is leaking away from the lineart on the body and legs, also maybe define the light on the tail.

Re-uploaded 14:58, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Comments? 03:20, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Define the leg shading. 03:38, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Shading is leaking everywhere away from the lineart, especially on legs/face/body. Also perhaps define the light on the tail, since it looks like it's completely in shadow

Eyes and nose spots are empty.

No, the eyes and muzzle are not empty.^^ 21:51, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, so prepare for the wall of text :P Sorry in advance. The shading on the legs, especially the ones on the right side of the cat, need to be thinned out and placed only on one side, depending on your light source. Which in turn, also means to define the light source. The shading on the tail should be on the other side, since the source is coming from <== direction; the light needs to be on the top. Also, define the shading depth a tiny bit. 22:05, 11/10/2016

Reuploaded ouo  16:35, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Comments before approval? 21:41, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry should have commented earlier, I was just busy working. There is waste by the muzzle, and the shading is still leaking slightly on the legs and underbelly. 21:47, 11/11/2016

Perhaps define the light on the <-- front paw just a tad

Reuploaded welp 00:15, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Got help from Winter/Snowdapple 16:32, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

I still see those white pixels by the base of the tail. 15:37, 11/13/2016

The shading looks a tad bit blotchy on the <-- front paw, and also on the --> front paw, I think the light could be defined some. Also maybe smooth the bit of shading just on top of the shoulder

Reuploaded ouo 23:59, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

I think there's a pixel of waste off to the very <-- under the tail

Smudge the pelt into the earpink and darken the edges of the shading where they meet the main lineart; the darkness seems to taper and get lighter as it approaches the lineart if that makes any sense at all 07:13, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded sorry i forgot to upload it 19:29, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Comments? 01:31, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

The shading on the main body, from the shoulder to just before the tail, looks more like a line to me than shading. Maybe blur/smudge it or lighten it.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:18, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded 03:32, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

could you smudge/blur the <-- ear shading, its looks a little bluer than the other shading —  Minkclaw   03:50, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:20, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Quailkit (Ki) - For Evaluation
This was my first time trying a charart, I hope its alright. ill try to fix the things but anyone can tweak if they like! Winterpaw I'm unleashed...Run.

So, I changed the title to headings. It should also say "Quailkit (Ki) ~ For Evaulation~. And smudge the white on the belly a little more.-- 00:04, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Definte the shading on the belly, and the fur a bit. And the ear pink doesn't show that much. 00:05, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

And also, take the alignments off too. Like, the "thumb" and "left" in the image. -- 00:06, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I switched the heading to '~ For Evaluation' since it's supposed to be that way for a first image until a lead changes it. I also think the white shouldn't be as big, since it's only supposed to be on the belly, and not the chest area

'''​Reupload - i made the white smaller, did a little shading, and made the ears pinker. '  Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 00:27, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I don't want to be a jerk but, this needs to be named Quailkit.kit.png, not just Kit.png Shypaw11 (talk) 02:01, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

There is waste around all the body. 02:04, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

'''Reupload - I removed surrounding waste and renamed the file and added more things and made the patch more circle. how does it become approved again'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 03:26, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

The nose hole is empty, you might want to fill that in with a light pink color. --Xaviapaw 

The white should only be on the underbelly. Only put it between the legs. 14:05, 10/30/2016

Define the shading, and also the earpink color doesn't match the other image.

What other image? Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 17:12, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Her StarClan image has to match this one.

Was that image even approved? - Jose1106 (talk) 19:31, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so...its not on the page, and Quailkit is a he...   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:48, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload - shading, made the white smaller, made ears more like picture (if that picture is even approved) and made the nose better.   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:57, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

Define shading. Are you using Gaussian blur? --  21:31, October 30, 2016 (UTC)

add shading on the legs, head, and add more depth to the eyes. you can refer to the tutorials for more help.

Reuploaded. Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 02:09, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

The senior warriors are inactive right now, please be patient. With the skills you have, I'm sure you'll be promoted in no time, and onto the critique: 1. Firstly, define your light source. Have a specific direction of light hitting the image in mind while shading the image: thats how we perceive shading in the first place. 2. Try to make the shading more visible to the audience. right now you can hardly see it in the way that it would define the shape and build of a cat. 3. The white chest looks unnaturally slapped onto the image, give it a blur/smudge depending on your preference.

Since you're being pushy about becoming an apprentice, I'm making this stay at "for evaluation". You do not decide when you are ready to become an apprentice, the leads do. I don't know who told you that anyone can do it, but they are very misinformed.

Ok, I'll try to fox up the shading, and I think the light is coming from the right, hitting the back. And hmm, the white, I'll try smudging it, but when I tried it it loved very pixelated and wrong, but maybe I can fix that.

Sorry for being pushy, I was impatient. I didn't mean to offend anyone and I know that was annoying. For the information, I just read on the guidelines that once you complete an image 50% you can become an apprentice, but idk. Sorry again! Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 19:01, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

The leads decide when an image is halfway complete, not you. You may think it is, but there are leads, just as there are in the warriors world. That's why we have senior warriors, a deputy, and a leader. 20:12, 10/31/2016

Define the eye depth (add more darker and lighter colors) and the earpink a bit. And apologies if this counts as repeating a comment, but there appears to be absolutely no shading on the white. At all. If there is, it needs to be defined a lot. 22:57 Mon Oct 31

'''Reupload - thanks for all the suggestions guys, I hope its getting better. once again, sorry Snowed for how I acted. I hope this pic looks better now!'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 00:04, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Define light source^^ Right now, it just seems that there's a ring of extra color touching the lineart, but the shading should only be where light doesn't hit.

What do you mean? Could you explain more? :D   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run. 22:13, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

It looks better than the last time :). I see your light source much more clearly than before. However, a couple of more things to consider:

1. The shading doesn't seem to cover the parts where it's supposed to cover, aka its "leaking" away from the linear art as people here call it. By this i mean that there are random lighter patches I see visible in the shading. To fix this, just simply go to the layer and give the edge of the linear art a trace where the shading is drawn.

2. Try to darken the shading to make it more visible. It's kind of eye straining to see it. Also, when you do that, it might look a little hard edged, so give it a little blur.

3. Try and get the shading to look more defined. By this I mean that the shading should form visible shapes rather than be blurred all over the image. For reference, take a look at the shadows casted around you right now to see what I mean when shading is a defined shape.

4. Try using a low opacity eraser tool to erase the edge of the white underbelly slightly, as right now it seems to be leaking.

13:38, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

'''Reupload - thanks guys, especially fox girl, that was great advice. hope its better now!'   Winterpaw I'm unleased...Run''. 23:17, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

I still really can't see the shading, and can only tell that there's a slight difference between it and the base. Would you perhaps darken/define it some?

Reupload Winterpaw: I  am  a  true Monster

Define and darken the shading a bit more. 00:06, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload Winterpaw:  I  am  a  true Monster  01:52, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Could you please define/darken the shading? I really can't see it at all on my screen.

Reupload Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  00:41, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Blur/smudge in the shading a tad.

Reupload Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  00:39, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

Shading's leaking away from the lineart on the --> back paw, and also, maybe smooth the belly white some.

The shading needs to be defined everywhere but on the side of the cat, which means define it on the legs, tail, and head respectively. I see virtually none at all where there should be some. Also, it looks like there's darker dapples all over the image, and since he's only described as a solid color, he doesn't get any, so remove those. <span style="">22:10, 11/10/2016

Reuploaded Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  22:44, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Get rid of the pale tail-tip. <span style="">23:31, 11/10/2016

Reupload Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  03:45, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Define the shading. 21:41, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  22:58, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the shading depth?

Reupload Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  02:14, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

Define shading on top of the head, if you please. 18:32, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

reup Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  22:29, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. Add some on the neck

reup Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  18:59, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps add some shading under the lower jaw? It looks a little flat there and adding something it would help that I think. (Also sorry if I can't comment because I'm not yet a member) <font color= #111111 face="Calibri,sans-serif">Maplepaw <font color= #e6e8fa face="Calibri,sans-serif">(talk)  18:48, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Well, the light is hitting the whole left side of the image, so the shadows would only be on the right side the neck because of lighting...but if someone else thinks I should add it, I will! [okay, after getting advice, I added some, and reuploaded.] Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  02:31, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Extend the jaw shading a little. You don't need to do much, just enough so it stretches where the chin is meant to be.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:19, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  02:53, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Shading on the --> shoulder is leaking away from the lineart, and also define the jaw shading because I really can't see a difference from your last upload.

Reuploaded because I wanted to change something Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  21:43, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Nami (KP) - CBA
I love this. <span style="">16:08 Fri Nov 11

Blur the stripes; they seem very hard-edged. 18:19, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

can u define the shading a lil 20:06, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded I just redid the shading. I didn't like it much. <span style="">20:16 Wed Nov 16

The stripes still seem hard-edged. 23:24, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

I think the stripes are fine, good work! —  Minkclaw   23:06, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Except there are other images with solid stripes like this? Any more smoothing and they will begin to run into each other. <span style="">00:56 Tue Nov 22

There is one, thin stripe on the tail that isn't smudged at all. It's near the ones next to the haunch in case you can't find it.

the stripes are fine in my opinion, maybe someone can second this? —  Minkclaw   17:40, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

I can see it. It's suddenly darker and sharper. It's okay for stripes to overlap a little. Stripes overlap all the time on real cats.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:21, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

I'm just going to CBA this, because it seems like the agreement is that the stripes are fine and don't need tweaking.

Luna (KP) - For Evaluation
Джулия де Мортон (talk) 13:59, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Get rid of every other white thing except for the tail-tip. Unless specifically stated to have other white points, we follow our tortoiseshell rule here. Also don't align your images. <span style="">14:01, 11/12/2016

And this image needs to be renamed to File:Luna.kittypet.png <span style="">14:04, 11/12/2016

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 14:42, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Can you brighten the tail-tip? It looks a little too gray to me. <span style="">14:42, 11/12/2016

define the shading on the legs and tmake the brown a little less green looking. 15:59, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:09, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Do you mind smudging the brown and ginger a bit?

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:50, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Can you define the shading on the tail and legs? 02:57, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 05:41, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Define the depth in the shading and give it some shape; it looks rather flat and I'm having some trouble making it out.

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 13:54, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

could you whiten the tail tip please?

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 13:26, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Can you add some more depth to the shading? The way I'd do it is add a 'base' shading that's darker and less blurred than the rest. I can give you an example if you don't know what I mean.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:24, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Give me an example, please Джулия де Мортон (talk) 14:56, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Okay so you add a base shading, sorta like this (blur/smudge it off course) and that's how I give my images depth. Of course, this shouldn't be exact, adjust yours so it matches your shading placement.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  00:11, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Джулия де Мортон (talk) 12:42, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Pebbleshine (W) ~ For Approval
Eh --Cheetahfur (talk) 02:10, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Is there a way you could possibly make the pixels look less grainy? 02:11, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

I know this is probably a difficult pattern to shade, but can you maybe define the shading a bit? 02:52, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Do you want the .psd? You are close, but the markings and colors are a tad bit difficult to tell because of layers/layer modes. I am the OA of the apprentice (first in the set) and the dapples on this are actually a little too soft. <span style="">03:02 Sun Nov 13

Add the pupil. <span style="">04:33, 11/13/2016


 * Does he have an eye color? 09:11, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Scarlet Pebble is a she, and could you make the speckles a bit more defined. —  Minkclaw   15:03, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Mink, that's exactly what Sunjaw said already, tbh. <span style="">16:07, 11/14/2016


 * My apologies, I didn't see that. —  Minkclaw   16:49, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe try to even out the earpink -- it looks blotchy because I can see the spots under it.


 * That's normal, Holly c: Maybe define/sharpen the shape a bit more? 07:10, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

I cant see any pupils

I already said that, Fox. <span style="">13:37, 11/17/2016

sorry, didn't notice your comment.

Mind matching this image to Pebbleshine's queen image?

It should match the apprentice image, not the queen, because the apprentice is the first in the set. But anyway, are you still working, Cheetah? 15:25, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work.

Could I take over possibly? <font color= #111111 face="Calibri,sans-serif">Maplepaw <font color= #e6e8fa face="Calibri,sans-serif">(talk)

Reuploaded I gave it a half decent shot I reckon <font color= #111111 face="Calibri,sans-serif">Maplepaw <font color= #e6e8fa face="Calibri,sans-serif">(talk)  20:08, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

This is pretty! Define the ear-pink a bit more. Not quite sure how to explain this but the shading on the chest and forelegs is a bit too straight and doesn't quite look natural. Maybe give it some curvature with the muscles? 05:29, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Can you lighten the back shading?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:25, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

define the shading on the tail. 00:18, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Tangleburr  (DF) ~ For Approval
~Patch   feather~   04:27, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

Smoothen out texture some, there are some parts that look like scribbles going in an odd angle?? If I make sense, I see it most on her side and back..great job though! —  Minkclaw   13:59, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''thanks. ~Patch   feather~   23:02, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

Really nice image^^ Perhaps round out the brown on the tail a bit to match the other images a bit more, and also, the earpink is leaking out of the ear line that it's supposed to be in.

'''Re-uploaded. '''thanks! ~Patch   feather~   04:23, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

the ear pink is still leaking out of the ear line.

Is it the top or the bottom of the ear? I looked and I can't find it. ~Patch   feather~   14:08, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

never mind, my bad. I mixed up the ear pink color and the brown ><

The gray looks a little dark compared to the other images. I think that's because of the shading though. Maybe double check the gray base/lighten shading?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:27, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''I think it is a shading, I lightened some of the gray, hopefully it looks better now. ~Patch   feather~   22:01, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

It still looks too dark on the top part of the tail and on her side, just behind her front leg.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  00:13, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. ''' ~Patch    feather~   02:04, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Snipkit (Kit) ~ For Approval
Now I can understand why everyone says the kit blank is hard to work with :/ Comments? <span style="">23:07 Tue Nov 15

Can you smooth out or smudge the white splotch some more? It looks a bit too defined. <span style="">23:55, 11/15/2016

Re-uploaded <span style="">23:15 Thu Nov 17

Blur the earpink a little. Maybe lighten it a bit too. ~Patch   feather~   23:38, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

The shading looks a tad bit blotchy towards the top of the white patch

Re-ups <span style="">22:59 Fri Nov 18

Comments? <span style="">22:34 Wed Nov 23

I'm seeing sudden lighter pixels <--- side of the legs, can you fix those? Also, smudge/blur the ear pink just a little bit. Nice work! Black-furred kits are especially hard to do.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:29, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-ups <span style="">16:39 Fri Nov 25

Chestnutkit (star) ~ For Approval
Poor little thing. Cute name though. Comments?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  23:08, November 18, 2016 (UTC)

You mind filling up that nose hole and make the lighter areas a bit more obvious?

Reupload <font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  22:43, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Uhh, I don't mean to offend or anything, but can I have some comments, please?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:30, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Pretty sure you should wait five days, because barely four seems pushing it. Anyways, give the shading a bit more shape, it seems uneven and I'm probably being confusing.

Alrighty then, five days. Give shape? I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do I add shading depth?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  00:18, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I meant. I'm sorry, it's been a busy week.

Reupload that's okay.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  23:00, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Mousewing (Star) - CBA
Any comments? 23:12, November 18, 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps brighten the black a tiny bit? I know it's not full black, I can still see shading, but it looks really similar to the lineart.

Reupload 15:46, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

I'm probably nit-picking here but I feel like there should be a bit more chest shading. Maybe expand on it?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:32, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Reupload, is this better? 02:37, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Curlypaw (A) - For Approval
I was originally going to use a texture/shading combo, but I had no idea of the basics and it didn't go so well, so I'm doing the image without texture.

Smooth out the shading and define it on the haunch and tail. 05:33, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

could you darken the base some. This looks like a pale gray to me. —  Minkclaw   23:14, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Shade is artist's choice unless one is specified. They are not required to change the shade if they don't want to.

For some reason, this feels like it's taking a long time. I'll try to be patient as possible, I promise.

Maybe define your light source, and also add more shading to the face since I can't really see it too well.

Reuploaded, I tried defining the light source by making the areas farthest from the light spource darker, but the shading on the face is suppose to be light because it's closest to the light source. 05:44, November 23, 2016

Put more shading on the face and possibly define it more on other parts of the body. Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I am  a  true Monster  21:47, November 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * The shading is suppose to be very light on the face since it's closest to the light source, and I can't define the shading any further without it looking odd. 01:03 November 24, 2016 (UTC)

It looks a little flat in some areas. Maybe expand the shading or add some highlights.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:33, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:51 November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Much better! Can you lighten the shading a little?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  00:17, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded, I tried without making the shading need more defining. 03:08 November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Needletail (Ro) - CBA
My first rogue. - Jose1106 (talk) 14:45, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Looks very nice. Mind smoothing out the shading a little? 22:24, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re-ups - Jose1106 (talk) 23:14, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Define the earpink a tiny bit. I can't really see it. 15:10, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Re-ups - Jose1106 (talk) 19:53, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the white on the chest a bit?

Re-ups - Jose1106 (talk) 23:44, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Do you want the base colors for this? I have it a bit lighter than it looks right now, and with the texture, it's highly misleading.

Sure. ^-^ - Jose1106 (talk) 03:12, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

The base is #C6C6C6, and enlarge the white chest a bit, as it's a little bigger on the apprentice, and that's the first image in the set.

Re-ups Is this any better? I had trouble with the texture. - Jose1106 (talk) 19:02, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

The texture and chest is looking too sharp. Blur/smudge them? Nice job!<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:35, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Ups - Jose1106 (talk) 03:05, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Snaketail (P3) (Star) - CBA
19:39, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Wow, that's nice!CloudHeart100 (talk) 21:52, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe add a fleck or two to the chin itself? I only see them on the bottom of the head.

Re-ups 12:03, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Define the earpink, it's hard to see. Looks awesome!<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:37, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-ups Thanks! 17:18, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

CBA?

Curlypaw (KP) ~ For Approval
i redid the base color and ear pink to match the apprentice —  Minkclaw   19:38, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Theres waste around the left ear. 19:52, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Remove the texture, as the apprentice image that was posted before yours does not have texture.

The base on this still looks a lot darker than the other image

I color picked it from the Apprentice, so I think its alright? —  Minkclaw   20:36, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps —  Minkclaw   20:42, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

The nose is empty, and there's still waste around the <--- ear, like Breeze mentioned.

Re-Upps waste removed, gray cats don't have pink noses, they have dark gray —  Minkclaw   03:08, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

the nose must match the apprentice. there's grey cats with pink noses in this series already. 23:12, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

I think the eyes must be blue 02:15, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps —  Minkclaw   17:32, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

I think the shading's leaking a bit on the back foot and haunch, and the nose pink should match that of the apprentice. 19:54, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Lighten/smudge the shading.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:37, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps, forgot to put this —  Minkclaw   03:53, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Could you add some shading to the nose, or something along those lines, so the bright color doesn't just jump out at you? You have a few pixels to work with, so it's possible to do.

Re-Upps fixed the brightness of the nose pink some as well as added shading —  Minkclaw   22:56, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Her apprentice image has a nose color of #DD8AA6, this one has a nose color of #7A4949 (that's the brightest color I see on the nose since it's shaded.). Just saying. 02:33, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Forgot to mention, there's also waste around the < ear. I can open up the image, take out my color-picking tool, and I would find red-pink colors.02:35, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Re-Upps, I've already removed the waste there's no more.. —  Minkclaw   21:17, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

There is, but it's very light. Take out your color picking tool and sweep it outside the lineart. I can still see the waste there. 01:43 November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Fidgetpaw (MCA) - For Approval
There we go, now that I have a design that I actually like..

Define shading on the --> back paw.

Because idiot me is tired, you mean the frontmost back paw???

Yes, I do. 02:40, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. An attempt was made.

Maybe smudge the white on the face into the black a bit more. :D Winterpaw: <span style="color:#ff9966;font-family:Palatino;font-size:14px;background:Black;border: 2px solid black;border-radius:1em;"> I  am  a  true Monster  23:57, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

I don't have it smudged on the MC, so smudging it here would mean I'm altering the pattern and I'd have to tweak the other image to match it.

Wrenflight (Star)-For Evaluation
Here she is. Comments? First character! :)

23:51, November 21, 2016 (UTC) This should say For Evaluation in the header. And lighten the shading up. It looks too solid. <span style="">00:59 Tue Nov 22

There is a transparent pixel in the --> ear. Also, be sure the image is before your comments or signature, and it shouldn't be a thumbnail.

Redo 02:20, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Think I may redo. 20:10, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 21:15, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Could you define the shading? 21:17, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 21:30, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Try to even out and match the texture better to the other images

Did you trace over the lineart? The lines look a bit wiggly. 05:57 November 23, 2016

Yeah I did,I wouldn't do it but when I paste the image onto gimp the back round turns black. So usually I trace it over with pencil, then hide the layer under it so it's white. 20:30, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Make sure the image mode is RBG, I think that's what the problem is. 20:32, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

This image needs to be reuploaded under File:Wrenflight.star.png, not what it's named now.

Omg, still won't work. O_O 20:46, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 22:56, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Some of the original lineart seems to have disappeared.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:40, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, like I said Stealth. I have to trace over it because the background becomes black. talk about Annoying. Then I have to retrace then, color. 03:09, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 03:40, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Try to blur/smudge the shading on the ear. 03:47, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Rendone 04:22, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

The lineart is blurred between the ---> leg and the chest. 17:36, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 17:50, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

The earpink needs to match the color from her other images. 18:12 November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Redone 18:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

You need to reupload over Wrenflight.star.png, instead of uploading multiple files.

Alright, one question though. Should I upload the next tweak under Wrenflight.star or should still use this one? 19:30, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

You need to use the file I told you; we have naming guidelines that must be followed.

Mk. 19:34, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

There we go. :) 19:37, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Carpkit (Ki) ~ For Approval
I'm going to try not to withdraw this again. Comments? 02:29, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Oh my gosh I just want to pinch him! <3 The ear pink looks black, can you lighten it?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:42, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Not really; any lighter, it will be hard to see. 17:02, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

I'm finding it hard to see as it is, though. It looks like it's part of the pattern itself, not ear pink.

I tried several different colors, and this is honestly the best I can get. Anything else is even harder to see. 17:12, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Then perhaps alter the base a bit? I can't tell that's ear pink at all, and I can almost guarantee that it'll get nominated in the future, so I really don't see why you can't try and tweak the colors to make it more visible.

Reuploaded. I'll fix the earpink later. 17:18, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded. This is about as good it's going to get. For some reason, I absolutely cannot make the earpink even kind of visible on both ears. It would always be easy to see on one ear but not the other or hard to see on both. 18:11, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Adorable! Maybe the white parts need to be lightened a bit more. The mottles need to be a tiny little bit more smooth. CookiesAreEpic123 (talk) 05:36, November 25, 2016 (UTC)CookiesAreEpic123

Strikestone (Ro) ~ For Approval
hey look who finally stopped being unreliable and unmotivated  <span style="">20:03 Tue Nov 22 

Try smudging the stripes a tiny bit. 22:43, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

I think the stripes on this are fine, as the other images are just like this and if they're smoothed too much it wouldn't match as well.

Wow those markings! Can you define the shading on the front legs?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:43, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

reups  <span style="">16:01 Thu Nov 24 

could you define the ear and nose pink please? —  Minkclaw   21:20, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Nettlespot (Star) - For Approval
05:27, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

could you blur or smudge the spots a tad; this is great ^^ —  Minkclaw   17:35, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

She doesn't have to do that, Mink, as it's not like that on her other images.

I think there are meant to be sort of bands on the tail, like on the queen (since I think it's the same angle?). Can you add some?<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:45, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 03:26, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

could you lighten the shading possibly? —  Minkclaw   21:21, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Cora (Q) ~ For Approval
13:32, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Yay Cora! (sorry, I love her) Can you add some shading to her back? Also, this is just me nitpicking but on the --> ear, the earpink falls away from the lineart a little, along the <-- top of the earpink.<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:48, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

ive used this source on queens before, ill fix the earpink when i get home. 08:45, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

reuploaded 20:13, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

sorry to intrude once more, this is really great, but considering she doesn't have the rank would she get this? Correct me if wrong my brain isn't fully awake —  Minkclaw   21:24, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Mink, please do not comment on images just to say that; it's a waste of an edit and counterproductive. Anyways, are the ears supposed to have any shading? I can't see any and I'm not sure if it's just my eyes or not.

I wasn't just saying anything, anyway, I was asking if she'd get this image seeing as how she does't get the rank? That has been asked on several other images. —  Minkclaw   21:31, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

it's a blank for any pregnant cat....you don't need the rank. 21:31, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

also no i didn't feel like adding any shading to the ears this time. 00:13, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Suzy (Ro) - For Approval
I can't do tortoiseshells, but I figured I'd give one a try. 14:03, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

define nose pink, this is pretty good —  Minkclaw   17:37, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 19:50, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Can you darken the black a little? It just looks a little light for a black cat to me (and a little green??)<font color="#0F52BA" face="Segoe">Stealth <font color="#FF0000" face="Segoe">f🔥re <font color="#0067A5" face="Teen">❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:50, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I messed with the colors a bit. Her base is gray, actually, and since she isn't specifically said to be black-and-orange, I think I can go a bit lighter on the colors if I want, right? It shouldn't be greenish anymore, at least. 15:00, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

The colors are your choice entirely, save for adding white (which I am still extremely annoyed about, but anyways), due to her colors not being specified.

Hawkwing (W) ~ For Approval
colors + texture and stuff matches deputy

could you smooth/blur the shading please —  Minkclaw   21:26, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Reuploaded Tried; don't think I can smooth it any more than this.