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Sweetbriar (Star) ~ For Approval
Can't believe I actually did this! I'm a beginner don't judge me. Also I want to know how you guys do those signatures so pretty. BlazeclawXAshfur (talk) 17:44, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Looks pretty good for your first image! Although, since it's your first, we need the title to be 'For Evaluation' instead of 'For Approval'. Also this needs to be reserved on the charart table. As for the image itself, the shading needs to be smoothed out more, and it looks like you're missing lineart on the eyes. Try overlapping the current lineart onto the existing image, and that should fix it. Try to blend the earpink a little more and maybe use a little more pinkish-gray color instead of orange. Technically all colors need to be colorpicked from the existing images, and how you do that is you save one of the older images and open that into the art program and colorpick from the places you need to color that specific area. In terms of stripe placement, it needs quite a bit more, and I believe there is texture, or that's probably just the stripes smudged. Sorry if this is a wall of text. ;-; 17:59, 2/23/2017

Sorry for double post, but the shading is leaking in some areas along the image, and the nose needs to be colored in. If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to ask! I'd be more than happy to help you out with image creation. Just gimme a shout on my talk page :) 18:00, 2/23/2017

Heh, I'm not that pleased with the final product. Thanks, though. I can't get to the editing yet, because i'm working on a school project. :( I will try to get to it, though. Thanks again BlazeclawXAshfur (talk) 18:31, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

You're amazing at the stripes! Even I can't do stripes properly yet. Mind defining the eye depth?😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:19, February 24, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

reuploaded BlazeclawXAshfur (talk) 00:58, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge/blur the earpink, and give the shading more shape so it isn't a straight line across the body. Curve it along the face and same with the other parts. The apprentice tutorials are lots of help. :) 01:01, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Do you know how to use the smudge tool? If so, everything still needs to be smudged: the shading, stripes, and white parts. It also appears you're trying to do things on one layer. Do you know how to use layers? If not, I suggest asking one of the other members here to show you how to do an image like that, specifically on a stream. 01:10, 2/24/2017

The layers were a bit of a hassle. When I tried to use them, my paint tool, Paint.NET shipped it out as one layer. . . so, not really the best option for me. Also I use pixlr and I still haven't got the hang of it. >:( BlazeclawXAshfur (talk) 06:06, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Do you know of a program called Paint Tool SAI? It's actually a lot easier and more nifty to use than Paint.NET. You could download the free trial and get started :) It's a lot better 13:37, 2/24/2017

reuploaded 17:57 February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Do you want the .psd for the kit? The colors look a little off and the images have texture. 18:53 Fri Feb 24

You nees to use layers, Starlight. Your lineart is blurred in many places. Please, if you need help, don't hesitate to ask. 19:39, 2/24/2017

Yep, I need help. For some reason I can't use layers primarily because of the weird way my art progam works. I might need to get a different art program. Also the apprentice tutorials aren't really helping me. And before anyone asks, I can get very busy during weekdays. So bombarding me with all you got is not the best way to go. 21:36 Feb 24, 2017

Define the eye depth, and smooth the shading on the front legs and tail

reuploaded --BlazeclawXAshfall (talk) 06:23, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

I think the nose pink should be a bit brighter to match the kit's. And smooth out and add some more texture. 16:25, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

There seem to be lighter lines (probably just erased marks) on the stripes that shouldn't be there, and the stripes on the queen and kit don't look quite as blurred, maybe sharpen them a bit? Jayie Just yo u wait~ 21:36, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

There should only be three colors for the pelt: The white, the base, and the stripes. It appears that you have an additional shade in there within the stripes that shouldn't be there. The texture is also beneath the stripes, placed much closer together and darker in color. I'm gonna guess those lighter lines are texture. If you want the HEX codes for the colors, don't hesitate to ask me. I'm also having trouble seeing the markings at all under the shading. 22:31 Mon Feb 27

Yep. Can I have the HEX codes? I really need to redo this somehow. . . --BlazeclawXAshfall (talk) 23:31, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Base: 947455 ; Stripes: 3b2618 ; White: FFFFFF ; Ear pink/Nose: 3b2618 ^ There ya go. The texture is two layers with the same color as the stripes with lowered opacity (77%). Hopefully this helps ^^ 23:43 Mon Feb 27

Can I have the HEX for the eyes? Also, you made a mistake with the Ear pink/Nose part. It's the same as the stripes. :P So maybe the fixed HEX for that as well? BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 01:04 2/28/17

There also seems to be a layer of sharp lines scattered on top of the image - could you smooth those out?

b58d8e <-- There is the correct one. Sorry 'bout that. My computer is sometimes a little glitchy from the programs I have to run for my research and whatnot. And the eyes are good how they are now, just need a little depth is all. 01:14 Tue Feb 28

re-up Should I smudge the texture? I'm not sure about that. BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 01:04 2/28/17

Yeah it looks too solid. Also, smudge/blur the ear pink too.Stealth f🔥re ❤Warriors Forever!❤  02:41, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

re-up Heh, it still doesn't look good. BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 03:14 3/1/17

Smudge the earpink?😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 05:57, March 1, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The stripes on the eyes should be thicker. 21:26, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the chest, face and paws, and there's some specks of white on the <--- front paw that's not shaded. 22:09, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps smooth/even out the texture, and define the eye depth

Actually, can you help me with the eye depth and earpink part? I probably won't be able to know what you're talking about. . . BlazeclawXAshfur  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 01:43 3/2/17

Eye depth means varying the color of the eye, so it's not just flat color. So say, for example, an eye would be a lighter shade up top, and would gradually get darker as it went downward. For the earpink, it looks sharp, as if it was drawn on. Much of the time, we strive to make it more realistic, and we blur/smudge it into the fur to make it look as if it has a tuft of fur in it, or it gradually transitions from earpink to pelt.

Will get to that tomorrow (in my time). It's nighttime here! BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 05:57 3/2/17

re-up BlazeclawXAshfur  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 23:53 3/2/17

Smooth out the shading on the chest and main body.

You seem to be doing quite well now, so I'll promote you into an apprentice! The stripes still need to be smudged, and it appears that some shading or the earpink is leaking onto a few pixels on the ear? Smooth out the shading on the front legs/paws, and switch the tail shading to the other side of the tail, as your light source contradicts that. The tail shading is a little sharp at the tail-tip, so maybe smooth that out as well. Also the shading inside ---> ear needs to be smoothed out as well, and I still can't make out the eye depth. 13:23, 3/03/2017

Could you define the markings on the face? I'm having some trouble seeing them. 17:39, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

re-up can't wait until this is approved-- i had to use the erase tool because my program wasn't cooperating BlazeclawXAshfur  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 23:51 3/4/17

Comments before approval? 00:48, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to break the CBA, but the shading needs to be smoothed out a lot.

There is waste between the tail and back and by the front paw, on the right side. 02:36, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

There's a few pixels of shading missing from where the flank shading meets the shoulder. 02:45, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

For the tail shading source, I believe it would look something like this, not all on one side as it is currently because of your light source.

The top of the second line above the square marking on the side needs to be much thicker, I think, to match the other images, and there are small brown lines all over the image that I don't see on the other images. Jayie Just yo u wait~ 21:55, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

re-up there, how's that? BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 23:20 3/5/17

Could you add a bit more shading on the <- side of the tail, nearer to the top, and lessen it in the middle? It still looks mostly on one side, and the light shows from <-- so it wouldn't be quite as much. Also, can you lighten the white a little on the chest? Most of it looks really red/brown when it's under shading.

The white doesn't need to be lightened, it's the shading that's too dark. Lower the opacity and give it a good blur/smudge

You're missing the dorsal stripe. The queen is the first image in this set, not the kit.

re-up What is the dorsal stripe?? o_O ;-; BlazeclawXAshfall  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 1:23 3/7/17

A dorsal stripe is the main tabby stripe on a cat, like Graystripe as a prime example. 14:51, 3/07/2017

To add on to what Winter said; it's the stripe along the spine, which you still need to add. Examples of those kinds of stripes on StarClan blanks (if you're not totally sure where it goes) are like File:Mousefang.star.png, File:Amberleaf.star.png, File:Appledawn.star.png, and File:Frog (Ro).star.png. It won't usually directly follow the lineart and will look like the images I've linked.

Define the shading on the tail a bit? It looks really flat--😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:04, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

re-up Next time I will be doing a less complicated pattern! :P XD BlazeclawXAshfall  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 00:15 3/8/17 UTC

You still need to add the dorsal stripe please 00:30, 3/08/2017

Oops. Totally forgot! What happens when you're rushed while doing homework. #multitasking XD BlazeclawXAshfall  Tails Entwined in Fanfic 01:16 3/8/17 UT

Smoothen out the shading on the paws and chest. 01:27, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

I'm still figuring out how you guys made those cool signatures you have. Define the shading on the tail a bit again? Sorry about that XD--😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 03:45, March 8, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

re-up I swear lowering the opacity led to trouble with the tail. Shine! Beneath the Starlight

Maybe add a few more stripes on the <-- leg, since there seems to be more, thicker ones on the other images

re-up Added a few stripes in between the existing ones. Proud user of GIMP that doesn't cooperate with me sometimes. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 23:52 3/9/17 UTC

This is very good. Comments before approval? 18:30, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to break CBA again, but this does not match very well still. The stripes need to be smudged and there still needs to be texture. The stripes are looking a little paint-brushy right now. Also there's too many stripes on the front legs. And those markings on the muzzle area are not stripes. Please remove those <span style="">19:23, 3/10/2017

Perhaps very slightly recede the shading on the chest, and smooth it out. It still covers most of the white and the shading makes it look dark

Can someone help me with the dorsal stripe? I still can't get it!!! Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 17:44 3/11/17 UTC

The dorsal stripe looks like a plain line of color down her back. It should flow with the stripes more. Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 21:22, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

So the stripes above the dorsal stripe should also curve toward the other side like on the bottom. The way I matched for the kit gives pretty much the same pattern on both sides. I'll get a red line of what I'm talking about in a little bit. <span style="">21:27 Sat Mar 11

Here. I rushed the pattern a bit but this is about what it should look like. Also, define the texture a bit. <span style="">21:50 Sat Mar 11

re-up Eh. Tried to copy the thing. Nightmare to do so, I tell ya. Oh well. May not be on until tomorrow afternoon. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 1:58 3/12/17 UTC

Thin the dorsal stripe a little, and define the texture

On the ---> right ear, it looks like the fur color is leaking into the ear pink. Patch that up, please.

The stripes on the eyes need to be thicker. 05:03, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

One of the tail stripes near the tip of the tail is leaking out and creating waste 19:05, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

The stripes need to be smudged still and again, there's too many stripes on the front legs <span style="">19:45, 3/12/2017

re-up Texture's there, if you haven't noticed. I tried using an airbrush at first--too light. Then I gave up and used a regular paintbrush on the normal setting. Eh. . . I removed some stripes around the front leg area, but I'm not quite getting the stripe thing. What do you mean the stripes on the eyes need to be thicker? Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 22:40 3/12/17 UTC

You did not reupload a new image. <span style="">22:45, 3/12/2017

*Sigh* I feel like my brain has taken a nap. But there you go: the new image. Sorry. :P Shine!  🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 23:05 3/12/17 UTC

On the ears, the ear pink is leaking out of the lineart. It's basically outside the lineart, if that makes more sense Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 01:10, March 13, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

That line near the tail is still there. It's in that empty oval that the tail creates 01:55, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

re-up How did I not catch the ear pink thing? Way to go, me. #facepalm Shine!  🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 5:08 3/13/17

There's still a speck of earpink outside the lineart on > side Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon<span style=""> 06:31, March 13, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

There's still waste around the whole image <span style="">17:30, 3/13/2017

Where? Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 23:17 3/13/17 UTC

Everywhere circled in red <span style="">01:40, 3/14/2017

Not really seeing it? Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 1:42 3/14/17 UTC

It's there. <span style="">01:45, 3/14/2017

re-up There. Tried to look closely, but even though I'm nearsighted, I can't see that closely, now can I? Shine!  🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 01:57 3/14/17 UTC

You missed a bunch. Go over the areas Snow circled again. Also, smoothen out the shading in the ear :] 02:00, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Just tell me exactly where the waste is, because I'm sorry, but I really cannot see it. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 2:04 3/14/17 UTC

Starlight I literally showed you where they were :/ <span style="">02:47, 3/14/2017

re-up That work for you? I just went on to Paint.Net and used the wand tool and hit delete. Works? Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 04:54 3/14/17 UTC

Smooth out the shading more <span style="">14:35, 3/14/2017

Thicken the stripes on the front legs a lil' bit - to match the queen's placement better

re-up Removed some shading on the chest, because I think someone suggested that earlier. And I used the smudge on 100% rate, but I can't guarantee the smoothness. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 23:43 3/14/17 UTC

Smooth out the shading more everywhere please. Define the eye depth, and the stripes are still paint brushy. Please make them more pixely to match the other images and then smudge them. Also the stripes on the face need to be thicker. The M stripe on the forehead does not connect to the line by the forehead, so please fix that. <span style="">13:41, 3/15/2017

re-up Can't wait till this is approved. So much work. . . . Shine!  🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 1:07 3/16/17 UTC

Smooth out the shading more and smudge the stripes more <span style="">01:20, 3/16/2017

Stripes are too sharp, and smooth out the chest shading Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 01:25, March 16, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

re-up "I think this looks great" Starlight said sarcastically. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 05:27 3/16/17 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading everywhere but the face but including the ear. Stripes are not smudged enough either. <span style="">11:46, 3/16/2017

Thin the dorsal stripe a little more

Too much? re-up Used the smudge at a rate of 75. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 21:43 3/16/17 (UTC)

The stripes are looking too paint brushy again. I dont understand what youre doing for smudging them? Are you going around the edges and smudging them to mimic a blur? Because thats not matching the other images. When i say smudge the stripes i mean literally take the smudge tool and go straight through the stripes. Youll still need to pixellate the stripes more to match the other imsges <span style="">22:29, 3/16/2017

re-up Argh this is so hard! Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 22:50 3/16/17 (UTC)

I think you should smudge the stripes on the flank and back again. --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:54, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the shading, most especially on the chest

re-up Dang it! Why did I choose Sweetbriar again? Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 23:50 3/16/17 (UTC)

And re-up again. I'm so confused on why I chose this cat. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 23:52 3/16/17 (UTC)

Theres always the option of withdrawing an image if you think its too tough :p smudge the stripes more and smooth out the shading againm im really having trouble seeing the differences <span style="">13:15, 3/17/2017

Earpink is leaking out of the top tips of both ears

re-up Nah, I'm not going to withdraw unless it becomes seriously hard. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 01:33 3/17/17 (UTC)

I'm really confused. It doesn't appear in your recent history that you really changed anything other than the shading darkness and tint. If anything you only made the stripes more blocky. Smoothing out the shading does not mean making the shading darker. It means taking a blur tool and going around the edges of the shading to smooth it out - which you are not doing. Also you've been asked several times to smudge the stripes, and the only progress I see with that is some of the stripes have one line through them, which is not at all what was asked of you. The smudging of the stripes entails going through the stripes (if they are horizontal) smudge them vertically. If they are vertical, smudge them horizontally. You appear to be smudging horizontally with horizontal stripes. So please fix this. <span style="">03:33, 3/18/2017

re-up I really hope that this is what you mean. Sigh. Shine!  🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 05:17 3/18/17 (UTC)

The dorsal stripe is leaking away from the lineart on the back, and also, thicken the stripes on the <-- front leg.

Willownose (Queen) ~ For Approval
Джулия де Мортон (talk) 12:11, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Very nice. Taper the ends on the stripes a little bit and define the light on the legs. <span style="">15:18 Sun Feb 26

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 15:54, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Add some shading in the ears? 16:30, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 18:20, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading and add a little bit of depth? 23:06, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 13:07, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe define the shading on the face, it kinda looks like there's no shading on the cheek closest to us😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 18:07, February 28, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The cheek is fine, but can you define the depth? 11:22, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:24, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Can you smooth the shading on the --> back paw? Looks really sharp on my screen

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 16:46, March 2, 2017 (UTC)

The shading is a little too sharp still. BlazeclawXAshfur Tails Entwined in Fanfic 23:57 3/2/17

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 12:27, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the belly and the depth on the whole image <span style="">13:33, 3/03/2017

I changed this heading to '~ For Approval" and promoted you to apprentice, since I checked and saw that you had an image already approved before this one.

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 07:55, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

There is an unfilled pixel on the front paw farthest from us. :) 15:12, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Could you define the light on the --> front paw, and then maybe define the depth a smidge overall?

Lessen the shading on the flank, as I feel with your lightsource coming from that direction, there would be a lot less shading there <span style="">01:34, 3/06/2017

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 05:09, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

The lineart is blurry on the legs. Also if your light source is coming from <--- that direction, you need to get rid of a lot more of the shading on the flank <span style="">20:42, 3/07/2017

Still working?

Reupload Джулия де Мортон (talk) 06:38, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Get rid of more shading on the flank and < side of the face <span style="">14:34, 3/14/2017

The unnoticed waste-finder is here! Below the <--- frontal paw, there is a small speck of waste!(I know exactly how to embarrass myself) Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 17:24, March 14, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Adding onto Winter's comment about removing shading, maybe reduce it on the tail just a little bit and the front paws some more to define the light on them

Quietkit (Star) ~ For Approval
First charart. I'm not sure if I did this right. Shypaw11 (talk) 16:48, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, so this is a good job for your first time. This might be a whole wall of text, I apologize in advance.

The major thing would be to match the other image. Here, the chest is a more rounded yellow color with orange splotches. On the other image, the chest is an orangey-brown color kind of in a flash-design, so maybe if you changed the shape and either smudged/blurred (not sure which one) the colour, it would look similar. I'm not sure, but I think you're allowed to colour-pick from the other images. Next, the earpink here is a very neon purple colour, and we don't want that. On the kit image, the earpink is a more reddish colour, so even just colour picking and changing that would work. The other image has texture, which would mean taking a 1px or whatever brush and making small lines that look like fur. And then there are small things, such as the nose colour being pink, and the eyes being a darker blue. You could also define the eye depth (which means the colours in the eye go from light to dark). I hope this wasn't too harsh or long ... great job nonetheless :) 17:06, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can you please explain the texture a bit more? Shypaw11 (talk) 17:49, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Texture is basically adding "fur" to the charart, or adding the effect of fur so it seems like it's not a flat image. It's not required, but since the kit image has texture, it is required for the star image. To add texture, take a 1px (usually the smallest brush size you have) and add small lines to mimic the direction of fur. This is usually done on a different layer (usually a layer above the pelt color and stripes but usually not above the shading). I usually use black or a darker hue than the pelt color for texture, but you can always lower the opacity of it later.

Also, I think the cream belly should stretch all the way to the <-- chest fluff, and down to the underside of the chest where it meets the shoulder. And darken/define your shading. ^^ You're doing a great job so far. 18:15, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Winterpaw and Vec! I defined the shading, added texture, and fixed the chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 18:47, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the earpink some, and expand the chest to fill the spot to the <--, since it doesn't quite fill where it's supposed to be. Also, the color of it looks different than the kit, and a bit too orange. Define the shading, as well.

Reuploaded Defined shading, smoothed ear pink, and lightened and expanded chest fur. Shypaw11 (talk) 21:42, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the texture a bit, as well as the chest. Also, the chest looks too bright and orange. Try colorpicking from the kit. 22:18, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Redid shading, texture and stripes. How do you colorpick from a different image? Shypaw11 (talk) 22:38, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened Shading Shypaw11 (talk) 23:12, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what program you use, but to answer your previous question: When color picking another image, download it, open it in your art program, and then use the color-picking tool to grab it's color. On my program, it looks like a dropper, but on others, I'm sure there's a guide somewhere that would show which one it is. Try to pick from the lightest point, not under shading or texture, if you can. Then, you'll have that color saved to use on your image.

Reuploaded Thanks Spooky! I use GIMP, and hopefully this is better. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:08, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink, blur/smudge the shading and smooth out the stripes on the arms and tail.😼вяσкєη_ғσσт😼 (talk) 00:30, March 6, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reuploaded Smudged ear pink, smoothed out stripes, and blurred the shading. Shypaw11 (talk) 00:56, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened the image. Shypaw11 (talk) 01:32, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are you colorpicking from the image? The colors look a little off, especially the chest. Connect the lines of the texture. Smudge the chest and earpink some more <span style="">01:37, 3/06/2017

There is waste beside and on top of the <- ear. Also, maybe smudge/blur the earpink a bit more, and make it less neon, darker. 01:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The eye looks a bit milky? Or is that just me. .3. 02:40, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:04, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Can you define the shading some?

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 20:48, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Are those lines on the body texture? Because they look a little. . . strange. Also smudge the ears a bit so it looks like ear fur. I also suggest improving the shading, mostly on the chest. Refer to the apprentice tutorials if you need it, they can be lifesavers! BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 2:59 3/7/17

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 03:28, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Everything needs to be smoothed out more <span style="">23:57, 3/07/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 02:38, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading again, please. 18:29, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink out some, and define the texture under the shading

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 01:31, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The nose pink is a bit too neon, it should be more orangey. Same with the earpink, it should be darker and less bright. :) 17:33, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:34, March 11, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

I think there's some waste around the ears and the top of the head. 19:07, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 19:15, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the lines on the face; they're too blocky. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 22:42 3/12/17 UTC

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 22:57, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Everything still looks like it needs to be smoothed out more <span style="">17:31, 3/13/2017

Reuploaded --Shypaw11 (talk) 23:40, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

There's still some waste around the ears. It's either waste or blurred lineart. 23:47, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:55, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth the earpink, and define the shading on the tips of the front paws

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 00:11, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smudge the ear pink some more and define the eye depth. Homosneksual (talk) 00:16, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 00:38, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Theres waste around the head, chest, and tail. Also youre getting there! Ill promote you to an apprentice once i get home. Also smudge the chest a tiny bit more, and perhaps smooth out the shading along the flank more <span style="">01:41, 3/15/2017

Reuploaded Thanks! Shypaw11 (talk) 03:27, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Smooth out the shading some more, and define the shading on the chest area. Maybe recede the earpink a little bit, because it looks like it's creeping onto her head :P <span style="">13:37, 3/15/2017

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 22:46, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Define the chest shading, and smooth it out everywhere else some

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:58, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

In your light source, the chest would be all in shading :P close! <span style="">00:53, 3/16/2017

Reuploaded :P Shypaw11 (talk) 01:10, March 16, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The shading is leaking away from the lineart on the edges of the chest, and also, smooth the open a little :)

Reuploaded :) Shypaw11 (talk) 00:23, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11(talk)

CBA? wonderful job! <span style="">13:13, 3/17/2017

Super sorry to break your CBA, but the shading at the top of the --> shoulder and the flank could be smoothed out a bit more, as they seem pretty sharp and there's not much depth there. Also, the shading is leaking away from the lineart on the <-- side of the belly. To match the kit image, the stripes shouldn't go so far down on the front paws, and at least a few would go all the way across on the tail. Additionally, define the facial markers on the sides of the face to match, and the ones on top should be less squiggly and more straight like the kit's.

Where did the pale chest go? It needs pale parts to match. <span style="">14:24 Fri Mar 17

Add more texture. And the texture here has much thicker lines than the other image, I think. Smudge the ear pink. 16:49, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

@Sunjaw, the pale chest in under the shading. <span style="">19:15, 3/17/2017


 * It could still be lightened though, as it looks the same as the rest of the pelt. And the shading is leaking on it. 19:23, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

The pale isn't the correct color. It needs to match the kit image. This looks like it is just the base desaturated a little bit, and on the kit it is clearly an orange-brown and not that dark and desaturated. Not trying to be rude, but it really doesn't even match. <span style="">22:29 Fri Mar 17

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:28, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

The flank and --> leg shading actually seemed to get more sharp with the last upload. Can you smooth it out?

Reuploaded Shypaw11 (talk) 23:44, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Shypaw11 (talk)

Can you smooth it out some more? I can tell the difference, but only just a little..

Hayberry (Queen) - For Evaluation
First image ErmineGlow (talk) 22:44, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Don't align images. Also, define the shading on the stomach. 22:50, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

there shouldn't be eyelashes. 22:53, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

How come the <- ear has a rip in it? 22:54, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

The shading looks a little flat on the belly. Shypaw11 (talk) 22:57, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I don't know how that rip happened, but it's fixed. Plus the eyelashes and belly shading.

There is still some black in the ear from where the rip was. Shypaw11 (talk) 23:10, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups I blurred and smudged it to remove. Does it look better? ErmineGlow (talk) 23:14, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading everywhere <span style="">23:21, 3/06/2017

Reups Darkened shading ErmineGlow (talk)

I think you need to give your shading more shape, as these are supposed to represent 3d images, making it look real, so to speak. Instead of just plopping the shading on the tail and the legs as you appear to be, try only putting the shading around the edges of the legs/tail/etc., like some of the images on here. The apprentice tutorials help as well, and it's good to look at shading placement <span style="">23:28, 3/06/2017

Reups I tried to follow the shading placement image, so hopefully this is better. ErmineGlow (talk)

The lineart is blurred by where the ear tear and eyelashes were. 23:59, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Reups Look better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:34, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth a bit 00:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:47, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Don't forget your signature. Also, smooth out the shading <span style="">00:46, 3/07/2017

Reups Better? --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:53, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

A little! Smooth out the shading on her tail, define the light on her legs as well <span style="">00:55, 3/07/2017

Add some shading where her chest is, and darken the shading on her tail just a tiny bit. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic (just realized that i was shipping myself with ashfur XD) 1:11 3/7/17

Reups Tried to smooth out the shading, and also darkened the shading at the tip of the tail. --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:16, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Try to use a darker color for the shading, because it appears that the shading is the same color as the pelt.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 03:50, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading, it looks like a square on the flank <span style="">03:54, 3/07/2017

Reups Better looking? ErmineGlow (talk) 03:57, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

That looks more appropriate as the color for the shading. Try and lower the opacity and blur it more to smooth it out.

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 13:41, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Round out the shading on the flank, as it looks a little blocky the way it is now. Also, define the mottles on the paws, face, and --> side of the tail

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 22:22, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading more everywhere, define the light on the hidden back leg, and switch the shading on the farthest from us front leg to the other side of the leg <span style="">00:11, 3/08/2017

I think the shading is a bit too dark. Lighten the opacity a bit. Also, try to add some eye depth. BlazeclawXAshfall Tails Entwined in Fanfic 00:19 3/8/17 UTC

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:03, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading a lot <span style="">23:35, 3/08/2017

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 23:41, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Your shading on the face says the light is coming from the right, coming up a little. But your chest has shading close the lineart. o.O Is this supposed to be there? If not, erase that, because it would contradict the light source. And try to keep the light source consistent throughout the whole cat. Also deepen the eye depth. I think there's some there. . . ? Shine!  Beneath the Starlight

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:30, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth? Broken_Foot Slice Of The Crow's Talon 01:45, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 02:35, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the flank shading Broken Slice Of The Loved Crow's Talon 06:08, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups ErmineGlow (talk)

There's leaking shading around the very edges or the image, plus you need to smooth out the tail shading a lot more. <span style="">15:28, 3/09/2017

The shading looks square on the belly Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:04, March 9, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Define the mottled pattern on the --> side of the tail -- It looks like there's very little there.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 22:21, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the stomach and legs, and smooth it out on the tail. 00:17, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:35, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

What are you doing for smoothing out the shading? I dont see any differences between any of the revisions for the tail shading. To "smooth out" shading, use the blur tool on the edge of the shading, not the shading itself. <span style="">00:57, 3/11/2017

Reups Does it look better now? --ErmineGlow (talk) 01:18, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth it more please, and there's still shading leaking around the edges of the image. Define the shading on the legs minus the one hidden under the belly, define the light on the leg under the belly, the lineart is blurry by the < earpink (im assuming it's the eyebrow whisker), and there's what appears to be a white-ish color on the edge of the earpink on the forehead that shouldn't be there. Also, define the eye depth. <span style="">19:49, 3/12/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 20:47, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Shading'a leaking all along the tail. 21:02, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Reups ErmineGlow (talk) 21:43, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

You still need to add the light on the hidden back leg under the belly. Switch the shading on the front leg closest to us to the other side of the leg please. Shading is leaking all along the belly and head. <span style="">17:35, 3/13/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 18:39, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten and smooth the belly shading, you still have not added light to the leg under the belly, and define the light on the < front leg <span style="">18:46, 3/13/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 19:08, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Too much light on the leg under the belly, define the shading there. Still define the light on the < front leg <span style="">14:16, 3/14/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 17:43, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the belly shading <span style="">01:42, 3/15/2017

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 14:54, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Define the darker mottles/parts on the <-- side of the tail

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 23:42, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

It looks like in some spots on the tail the shading is pixelated? like fuzzy static. <span style="">00:54, 3/16/2017

I added some mottles under the tail shading. Do you think it could be that? --ErmineGlow (talk) 15:41, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Idk it looks a lot different than your other ones, id say match the others or get rid of it. <span style="">15:43, 3/16/2017

Reups Hopefully the static is gone now. --ErmineGlow (talk) 17:11, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth and the darker mottles on the <-- side of the tail and the belly. Also, the <-- ear lineart is slightly blurred, I do believe.

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 00:18, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I believe that on the <-- side of the belly, the line art is smudged near the top 08:08, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I can't find any smudged line art. --ErmineGlow (talk) 14:46, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

My mistake. Smooth out the shading a teeny weensy bit on the tail 19:27, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reups --ErmineGlow (talk) 19:30, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading, and also, even out the patterning on the <-- side of the tail. It kinda looks like a white-ish streak on my screen? Idek.

Mosspaw (SC) (Star) ~ For Approval
Yea, I probably put alignments on even though we're not supposed to, because I don't know how to properly add a new topic without putting alignments. Also, I'll smooth out the flank shading soon. Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 12:36, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Dont thumb your images. Also this needs to be renamed to Mosspaw (SC).star.png

o3o Whoever commented, I renamed it and tried reuploading under the new file name, but it won't work Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 13:04, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Okay I think I got it Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 13:06, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Oh my god that's the first time I've ever forgotten my signature ;-; Also the filename still needs a space in between the Mosspaw and the (SC). Don't create a new file name please, just let an admin rename it for you, as it creates more junk for 'em to delete. As for the image, smooth out the shading more. <span style="">13:32, 3/15/2017

Re-uploaded! We all have/had those moments Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 13:48, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Possibly erase some shading on the > front leg's elbow, as I believe it's leaking. <span style="">13:53, 3/15/2017

Re-uploaded! By the way, before anyone says, that splotch that looks like shadng on the flank place or whatever, is not. It's a brown patch, but I can remove it if it's too misleading. I removed some shading earlier, but mom shut internet off for a while Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 15:31, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Define the white - it looks pretty much gray all over

Re-uploaded! Sorry it took me longer then it did to upload, my internet was lagging. I just lightened the shading anyway Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 17:51, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Can you lighten the shading on the head a tiny bit more? --ErmineGlow (talk) 18:12, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

I think it's fine. Second opinion? Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 18:13, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

While the shading darkness itself is probably fine, define/expand the light everywhere, because there's so much shadow that it looks gray.

Re-uploaded! I'll probably define the light, but I'm not sure Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 19:05, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

I renamed this for you to File:Mosspaw (SC).star.png, so please continue uploading under that. Also, define the light on the tail

Re-uploaded! Done. Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 19:29, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

The white is looking a little gray. 20:23, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 23:48, March 15, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Define the shading depth. Also I'm not sure changing the pattern so many times is really...idk the word for it. Productive? Idk, ignore me if it's fine.. <span style="">00:59, 3/16/2017

Smooth out the shading on the flank 01:34, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded! Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 01:48, March 16, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Can you lessen some of the shading where theres supposed to be light? It looks like theres too much shading <span style="">11:50, 3/16/2017

Re-uploaded! Pebblepaw, so far, reminds me of Needletail. A total jerk. Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 02:55, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Smooth out the flank shading, and define the light on the tail

Re-uploaded! Last upload for a few hours, going to Selkirk! Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 16:38, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

In this source, I don't think there'd be any light on the chest. <span style="">16:54, 3/17/2017

There is supposed to be light on the chest, because I'm using the Apprentice Tutorials shading source. And if I removed it, someone would tell me to define the light on the chest. Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 19:06, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

It appears as if your light source is coming from kind of above/off to the side, so the chest would be all in shading. Please add the shading, and lessen some shading on the flank and head still. <span style="">19:21, 3/17/2017

Re-uploaded! Finally got home lol Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 04:21, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Morningmist(Queen) - CBA
Such a nice name 19:09, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the chest a bit? Good job! ^^ 01:28, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Actually, smooth it out everywhere

Re-ups Thanks Vec 18:41, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? <span style="">19:20, 3/17/2017

Weedwhisker (W) - For Approval
~Patch   feather~   17:11, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Could you smudge the earpink a bit? ErmineGlow (talk) 17:15, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading slightly, and define the light on the back paws

The shading could be lightened. 23:10, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

The light could be defined on the < front leg too <span style="">14:37, 3/17/2017

Re-uploaded.  ~Patch    feather~   19:26, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the tail shading just a tiny bit? 23:17, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light on both back paws?

Flylight (Star) ~ For Approval
since we're treating these as new images, here he is :)

Define the light a tiny bit more on the paws? <span style="">13:17, 3/17/2017

Reuploaded

Smooth out the shading on the --> front paw a bit. 17:27, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Fallowstar (L) ~ CBA
Comments? 21:58, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Blur the lighter parts on her pelt ErmineGlow (talk) 22:03, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 22:16, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Expand the shading on her haunch, 23:20, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 23:36, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Is it just me or does the ear pink look more brown? 14:48, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I think it's fine, as the earpink is actually pink (I believe the shading is making it seem brown), and I've actually used a more brown color for the earpink of brown cats before (most notably on Squirrelwhisker). If this is to brown, those would have to be tweaked, as well. 18:55, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I actually have to agree with snek, here. The earpink is a little too brown. Just maybe nudge it a little more to the red/pink spectrum. <span style="">19:19, 3/17/2017

Reuploaded. 20:47, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, but now I think it's a little too pink. Just saying. Maybe a teeny-bit. . . I dunno, browner? Just like your original, but with some pink in it. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 05:27 3/18/17 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 05:30, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

CBA? Nicely done^^

Brownpaw (A) ~ CBA
Goddamn why'd I have to make such a difficult pattern? <span style="">23:05, 3/16/2017

Remove some of the orange on th face, as the starclan image has less. :) 23:09, March 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * I think its because in the StarClan image is shaded. 23:12, March 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, my mistake. Leave it as it is then :} 23:15, March 16, 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's the shading :P <span style="">23:31, 3/16/2017

Can you define the shading depth on the two --> back paws a little?

Reuploaded <span style="">14:35, 3/17/2017

CBA?

Dewstar (L) - For Approval
04:36, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Looks like there's some waste above his back. Nice work! When I read Dewstar's description, I thought they meant like a single gray spot XD Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 04:47, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

he's looking a bit more pale grey to me. 18:43, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 05:31, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Nutwhisker (Star) - For Approval
Hope I finally managed to upload something without alignments. 06:28, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Define and darken the texture. It's a fair but more visible on his other images.

reups Should I define it some more, or is that okay? 08:28, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

reups again defined shading and kinda defined texture. 12:04, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on --> half of the cat, and give some depth to the facial shading

reups 13:59, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the face, and smooth it out a little more on his legs. 14:52, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading everywhere else actually <span style="">19:18, 3/17/2017

reups twice i reupped it and came to comment, and as soon as i looked at it, winter had commented :^P 19:24, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Add a little bit of depth to the shading? Especially on the flank, but the depth on the chest and front legs is fine. 23:20, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

reups 23:58, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Brandy (Kp) ~ For Approval
I was dying to do a raninbow collar. XD Fifth image! :D 19:25, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth and shading a bit. I love the collar and the white eye patch c: 19:29, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reups  19:34, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

The earpink is a little hard to see imo. Could you sharpen it a tad? Might need a second opinion, I'm new to this stuff. This is very lovely, though! -- Sh ri ke st ep!  20:10, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reups  20:14, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading a bit. This is adorable <3 Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 20:23, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Reups 20:28, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Define the light/shading difference on the collar

Reups 21:55, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Looks like some green is leaking from the eye on <--- side. Beautiful collar <3 Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:58, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

Robinstar (L) ~ For Approval
Not entirely pleased with the black ring placement but whatever. 20:06, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Lighten the shading a bit. 20:08, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Define the eye depth Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 20:24, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

I can see the eye depth fine. But smoothen the shading a lot, all of it. :) 21:49, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Reups 23:02, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading that's on the white. 12:57, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading depth on the tail a lil'

Kinktail (MC) - For Approval
Sixth. this one was pretty hard, but i'm happy with the tail. 20:48, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I was originally gonna make her, but I didn't know how to make a crushed tail. The black seems a bit too dark, and even with my tablet brightness to high, I can't make out the lineart. Those are some smexy eyes Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 22:56, March 17, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

I can't see  any shading. Is it there? ErmineGlow (talk) 00:12, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Shading's there...

The black is not pure black but with the shading and texture it looks darker. And the line art is not necessary to see at all places, and I can see it in some. And yes, there is shading everywhere on the source used from the apprentice tutorials. 04:08, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

I guess I'm just blind Broken Slice Of The Crow's Talon 04:26, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Broken_Foot

You should probably lighten it a tad. Even I can barely see it, and I'm not farsighted, mind you. And yes, my brightness is turned all the way up. No, I'm not blind. Sorry if this seems a little rude. Shine! 🌟Beneath the Starlight🌟 05:20 3/18/17 (UTC)

'''​Reuploaded That's all im willing to lighten it. Also, someone's signature is making my words this bright orange. 05:56, March 18, 2017 (UTC)'''

Max brightness on all three screens (desktop, laptop, iPhone) and I cannot make out anything but the herbs, ear pink, and eyes. You're going to have to lighten this up a lot. I literally cannot see anything but a black spot with some coloring. =/ Don't do the whole "this is all I'm willing to do" thing either; especially when multiple people have commented on not being able to see the image/shading/ect.

Blackbee (W) ~ For Approval
...bees? 🐝 23:56, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Dunno if I can commet but eh, the spots look a tad ginger imo. Is that the goal? Rainbowmistake (talk) 01:44, March 18, 2017 (UTC)Chat

honey can be anywhere from pale amber to orange to nearly brown, so I think it's ok. may alter it later anyway. 01:54, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Define the shading on the front leg farthest from us. 01:59, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

This is beautiful o-o Mind defining the depth of the shading along the neck? <span style="">03:36, 3/18/2017