User talk:Nightfall101/PageArchive 1

Welcome
Hi, and welcome to Warrior's Wiki! If you have any questions feel free to ask. hope you like it here!--Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 22:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

RPing Characters
If you would like to add articles for your pretend characters, I suggest you join WCWiki. The link is here: www.warriorscharacters.wikia.com. -- Rain whisker 09 15:57, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

Youtube
What video would that b? On, Goldenflower's talk page u said that u found a video that said that Goldenflower was Ravenpaw's mother. I would just like to b sure of that and I'll put it on my account so that i could send links if I need too since i have an account on Youtube.--Hawkstar of Thunderclan 11:14, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

It was "The return of Ravenpaw episode 2" Someone made warrior characters on sims pets, and made a pretend journey for Ravenpaw and Barley. Anyway, if you look at the comments, Haleywint (That's the person who made the video) left a comment about it. I don't think Tigerstar was Ravenpaw's father, but I think it's likley Goldenflower was his mom.--Nightfall101 00:36, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sign
hiya :) so you know you should sigh with four >>(~)<< and at the end of the Message. Brambleclaw14 Talk 07:41, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so just at the end? Or at the beginning and the end? --Nightfall101 21:49, October 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * at the end you can put >>:<< at the stat to make it be like this message but to don't have to most user don't :). you could ask someonne to make a cool sigh thing like my one and others. Brambleclaw14 Talk 07:54, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Erin hunter chats
I know this is random, but will somebody PLEASE give me a link to an Erin Hunter chat? I can't find them!--Nightfall101 01:55, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

You can find a link to one of them in the Scourge article. It's an old one though, back from 2007. I can't find the newest ones. Tangletalon 03:17, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and on a completely unrelated note, I absolutely LOVE the Coraline movie. Tangletalon 03:17, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, and I love it too!--Nightfall101 05:57, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Mentor
I'm very sorry, but I don't believe I have time for three apprentices. I transferred your mentor to Hawkfire98, who's been a senior member of the PCA and will be a very good mentor for you. I hope you don't take offense; my life just isn't liking me right now, and I don't have time. :( -- Bramble -san  18:30, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Awww, I'm sorry! But I take no offence at all!--Nightfall101 18:33, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Apprentice
That's fantastic!! What do you wanna learn first? :D  Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 02:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Everything! But first, do I need a specicfic art program for this?--Nightfall101 04:14, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you need Pixlr. Here is the address: www.pixlr.com  Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 22:46, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Awsome! So how do I get started?--Nightfall101 23:38, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Project Characters
I've noticed you've been editing character pages a lot, so I thought I'd tell you about Project:Characters. It's basically a project where we discuss how to improve character pages, and how to keep them consistent, etc. We need more members because it was inactive for a long time, so do you think you'd like to join? (It doesn't demand lots of activity, but it's nice for you, as an editor, to be able to see updates and such) Insane  Can't Wait!!  02:45, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Hey that's cool, I'll think about it! Thanx for telling me!--Nightfall101 04:56, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Problem
Hey Nighty! Okay, see where it says Jump N' And Get Started? Click that. Then when it asks you to open a image, say from the computer and find the picture you want to open on your documents. Then continue from there. Hope this helps! Hawkfire Talk! 22:31, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

How do I lock all transparent pixels? I'm reading Darkhallows tutorial, and it says I need to go to the bottom layer and click the box that says "Lock all transparent pixels". But I can't find that box. Also, how do I reserve Cinderkit? (Cinderpelt's kit version)--Nightfall101 00:12, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I don't really know where that "box" is. I use a completely different way of making charcats that is simple for me, but challenging for others. Try asking Darkhallows about this box, because she uses it, and she will tell you. Then we will continue on from there. Hawkfire Talk! 23:31, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Help please?
Hi I am not new! But I do need help I know about roleplay but how do I get to it? Also can we be buddies? :D --Arastar 02:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Of course we can be buddies! As for role-playing, I don't know excatly how to get to roleplaying sites, but if you google a cat description-White cats with blue eyes-than you can usually find sites that do role play. Hope that helps--Nightfall101 02:55, November 8, 2009 (UTC) Dosn't really help how t find roleplaying on this sight I seen some of roleplay cats it's just thatI'm wondering how to get to it on this sight! Well bye! Check my userpage!--Arastar 12:45, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Article Problem

 * If you ever see a useless/spam article, The only people who can actually delete it are Eu and Bramble. However, we can alert them that it has to be deleted by adding at the top of the page: . Then one of them will delete it ASAP. As for Project Characters, I'll add you right now. You're a really good editor, and we need more active people :P  Insane  Can't Wait!! [[File:Cake.gif]] 03:54, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, just copy this design. and how to reserve characters, simply edit the PCA home page and put the name of the character you want to reserve and put your signature after it. Hawkfire Talk! 00:16, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but I mean a kit's, Elder's, Rouges, Queen's, and Loner's eyes--Nightfall101 00:21, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Re:

 * Don't worry, I was on my way to report Jewelfrost (another vandal) to Bramble right now, Bramble will block them whenever she gets on. Until then, just keep undoing the vandalism. =/ Insane  One year older!! [[File:Cake.gif]] 21:57, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Night, listen to me. It's SOOOO simple! Just do what you would do on any other article. Click edit this page on the PCA project page, then scroll down to the Current Projects section and type the character you want to do, add your siggy to the end of it like you were signing a message, then click Save. Hawkfire Talk! 22:52, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

As Hawk told you, that's how you tell other users which picture you're working on. Keep in mind you can only have them up for two weeks; they're not really reservations, just the chars you're currently working on. To find out how to do a kit's eye, just look at an approved kit picture (take File:Snowkit.png for example). Save it to your computer and open it in your editing program, and you can look closely and see how the eye is arranged. And I would prefer you save Cinderkit for later; she'll stay good, and you can put her up when we have lots of the characters done. -- Bramble -san  02:34, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Fishmonkey11
I left a warning on his/her talk page. --Rainwhisker 09 22:37, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Proud
Oh Night, I'm soo proud of you! Your Swiftbreeze charart is excellant! Just make sure to save it as a PNG image! :) :) If you get two more images and Swiftbreeze aproved, one black cat and one white cat (each different blanks), I will think about making you a warrior. Hawkfire Talk! 01:43, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Yes. If you get all three approved, you will be a warrior :) Hawkfire Talk! 02:27, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Problem
Ok fine. --Aurorablaze 21:39, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Yep Friends. Also on crookedstar's family tree, im changing it so it shows only the cats that he is realated to (mille is not related to him), im not changing the format --Aurorablaze 21:52, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

For some odd reason, it is putting Lilystem way to much to the left --Aurorablaze 22:13, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Box
Hey do you know how to make that box thing on my profile, like most of the cats have where it shows there pic and clan. i want 2 put it on my profile. Thanks --Aurorablaze 22:25, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Me too, please!!!--Mousetalon 00:53, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Purrfect! Just the lineart on her back looks lumpy. :) Hawkfire Talk! 22:54, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Go to the pencil tool and change it to Size: One, Color: White and go over the bumpy parts until it looks smooth. Hawkfire Talk! 23:40, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Friend Request
Heyy, Nightfall, I'm Moonshadow! I would like to be friends with you..If so, check out my page. If not, still check out my page!! -Moonshadow1013 00:44, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Behavior on Spam Pages
Don't worry, I know perfectly well how to get access new pages. :) Also, if an IP user creates a useless spam page, post on it once warning them to not create more, then tell me if I don't delete it before a day is done. Then leave it at that. If they respond, if they're rude, don't do anything. Posting multiple times on it just creates useless recent changes. -- Bramble -san  01:02, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Sure!!
Sure, Nightfall!!

Name:Foxspirit

rank:warrior

gender:female

pelt:Beautiful long furred dark red she-cat with white paws, face, chest, belly and tail.

eye color:pale amber

thanx!!

THanx sooooo much for Foxspirit!! She looks AWESOME!! -Moonshadow1013 18:51, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

I really like the swirly thing in the backround!! Is that fire? -Moonshadow1013 19:36, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

(For Ravenflight) Sure, Nightfall!! -Moonshadow1013 20:09, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Long haired. And He has a shredded ear. -Moonshadow1013 20:47, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

THanx, Nightfall!!! I don't care if he's mottled, he's AWESOME!!! -Moonshadow1013 22:12, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Sure!! Your really good at this!! -Moonshadow1013 22:17, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

She's long haired (you can see that I like long furred cats) and...nothing else. Thank you so very much for doing this!! -Moonshadow1013 22:32, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Thanx, Nightfall! And could you make Moonshadow for me? I like the things you do in the back round and I was wondering if you could do the same for Moonshadow? Her power is water and she is deputy and long furred(duh!) and can you make the silver tabby stripes less visible? Thanx! -Moonshadow1013 22:48, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Nightfall! Your AWESOME!! -Moonshadow1013 23:13, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

I LOVE her!! I like her better than the old Moonshadow! Thanx, Nightfall!! -Moonshadow1013 00:01, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Gasp* How did you know:)! He is also battle scarred(shredded ear, bent tail, scar on his muzzle) auctually, Breezestripe is the only one not long haired! -Moonshadow1013 00:24, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I know it sounds like I'm using you,and I'm not, but I was wondering if you could do Breezestripe and Oakshine. I want to finish the family and your chararts are quick and awesome and I like them! Thanx, Nightfall:)!! -Moonshadow1013 01:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I like them, Nightfall!! And That's what I pictured Honeypaw!! Thanx! -Moonshadow1013 13:34, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

You don't seem to be on right now, but I was wondering if you could make Flamepaw, Emberpaw, Darkpaw, Frostpaw and Snowfall? Thanx, Nightfall!! -Moonshadow1013 19:57, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

OMSC!!(Oh My StarClan) your making my ShadeClan cats!! Thanx! Your AWESOME, Nightfall!!! -Moonshadow1013 14:20, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Darkpaw long haired, flamepaw short. -Moonshadow1013 14:36, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Voting

 * If you think a character deserves Silver, Gold, or Feature article (but don't nominate for that right now because there's a long backlog) status, just make a new section on the talk page like "Pagename- Silver/Gold Nomination", then explain why you thinnk it deserves that rank. Others will discuss any issues they see, and when everyone thinks it has a decent chance, it goes up for vote, and that officially determines if it makes the grade. A note: if you nominate an article and others point out issues, you're the one expected to fix them before it goes up for vote. But you're an awesome editor anyways, so I trust you with that. Lol. Insaneular | raluenasnI  22:34, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

re: Help
Sadly I don't think you can. I made that in GIMP.-- Darkhallows 11:44, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 15:38, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I'm really impressed with Swiftbreeze. Just do the white cat and the black cat, and get them approved. Then you will be a warrior at last. :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 17:07, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Put up one of them for now. Then when Swift gets approved, put the other one up. Only two at a time. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 03:59, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Nightfall- I was wondering how you got the warriors profile/family/mentor/names box thingy on your page. (It's hard to describe). Do you have to be a characat warrior or something? Please let me know- Dusty --Duststar 04:01, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Thanx!!
Thanx, Nightfall!! I LOVE All the cats you did!! did you know Rosepool is Moonshadow's sister? Yellowstar is black with ginger patches. Thanx!! -Moonshadow1013 01:20, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Brilliant! Your another pawstep closer to becoming a warrior! Okay, your charart should be done by tomorrow. :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 02:21, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanx!! I put the fur lenth on the list of cats!! By the way, yesterday I went to the mall and bought The Fourth Apprentice!! That's way i wasn't on last night, cuz I was reading! I also saw New Moon!! Taylor Lautner is H-O-T!!! -Moonshadow1013 18:26, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Sunfrost
Here he is! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 16:47, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Happy thanksgiving!!!!
Happy thankgiving, Nightfall!! Hope it's happy and unstressful there, unlike at my house!!:) I'm not allowed to go on the computer because my mom said that I have to spend time with my family, but i' m on my aunt's iPhone!!:) well,happy thankgiving!!

PS-how is the 4th apprentice? I finished already. Breezepelt is a butt! --Moonshadow1013 15:39, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

RE:Idea

 * Hmm, it sounds interesting, but can you tell me about the format you'd put it in? Would you be directly typing it up from the book, or summarizing it? Insaneular | raluenasnI  16:23, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you can do it. We have leaders' nine lives ceremonies so why not warriors ceremonies? I might change the format a bit, but I trust you to do it. (Be sure to cite the pages from the book though) Insaneular | raluenasnI  14:18, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Looks fine! You can add more, and you can tell the rest of PC, or I can post it next time I update. Insaneular | raluenasnI 23:50, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Yep. I'll add some when I have more free time, too. (I'm basically just checking up right now). Also, it's not manditory, so don't stress about adding it to all articles, just do some if you like. Insaneular | raluenasnI 00:30, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

News for you!
Hey Nighty I am very pleased you got Swiftbreeze approved! Have you gotten your black cat approved? I love Snowy!! And also, hope this doesn't bring any disappointment, but you have to have FOUR chararts approved to be a warrior. For your fouth charart, I want you to do a gray tabby (any blank). <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Hawkey Rawr! LOL 16:35, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Actually, I think your Swiftbreeze is ready to be approved; I'll start the 24 hours right now. You did a nice job with her. :) Good luck with Night! -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 21:15, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Breezepelt and Millie is a butt!! Did you notice that Millie wasn't listed! Hope she died:) I love Poppyfrost, but she has bad taste in toms and I HATED when Breezepelt and Brokenstar/tail was attacking Jayfeather (I LOVE YOU, JAYFEATHER!!!!) and Poppyfrost was just standing there yelling to stop hurting Jayfeather because he is a medicine cat. Even though she was pregant, she still should've helped. What do you think her kits names are? I think the tom's name is Molekit for her brother and the she-cat Honeykit for Honeyfern. I still miss Honeyfern*sobs*. I think Tigerheart has it bad for Dovepaw. I don't believe that Tigerheart is bad! Thanx for the charats!! --Moonshadow1013 17:25, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

that's okay, Nightfall!! I don't care if I get the charats on Monday, I'm just glad that you even made them!! Like you, I'm on an different computer, my aunt's iPhone to be exact, and I can't do much either!:) --Moonshadow1013 16:39, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

P.S- I joined The Project!!:) I'm an apprentice!

Re:
You didn't have to ask me. You can do Night of no Stars instead of the gray tabby. That's perfectly fine. Your almost there, keep up the good work! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Hawkey Rawr! LOL 01:39, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Okay that's fine. Go ahead and find a gray tabby and start making it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:DeepPink;">Hawkey Rawr! LOL 02:58, November 29, 2009 (UTC)\

Here is a little present for you. I made you a siggy! :) Nightfall ♥ Talk! undefined Hope you like it! :) Jinglestorm ♥ Merry Christmas! undefined 23:54, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Okay just copy the code. Go to "more" then press "Preferences" then paste the code above the tiny box where it says "Custom Signature" :) Jinglestorm ♥ Merry Christmas! undefined 01:35, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

I see that Icestorm made you an siggy! She made one for me too, but I'm not using it right this second!!:) In stead i'm using my christmas one i made like 30 minutes ago!!:) Merry Christmas, Nightfall!!:) -- Santashadow Have A Very Purry Christmas! undefined 21:07, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Nightfall, do you have a youtube account? -- Santashadow Have A Very Purry Christmas! undefined 23:20, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

LOL!!
LOL brain fart!!:) I LOVE the charcats!! Thanx, Nightfall!! Awesome, you have an youtube account!!:) don't but did you ever heard of Brambleclaw works at burger king? That person stole Dragonslyr's idea!!:( Icestorm123 went on for me to tell them that there vid sucks!! -- Santashadow Have A Very Purry Christmas! undefined 23:53, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

thanx for Berrypelt, Nightfall!!:) -- Santashadow Have A Very Purry Christmas! undefined 19:54, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Christmas Present!!:)
Merry Christmas, Nightfall!! I've got you A present! Nightfall LOLZ!!:) Sorry its not much, but I'm not good at chararts so I made a siggy instead!!:) -- Santashadow Have A Very Purry Christmas! undefined 21:16, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

how do you make charries
i really don't know but if you sign up is there like a program on wiki to make them cause i'v put them on the talk and all but i don't get approvel so how do you do it?×_× --Echopaw 23:28, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

How to make siggys
Hey, Nightfall, If you want to put on Icestorm's or My siggy we made for you, than plress edit this page (your talk page) then highlight the code for either one of them (It will show the code) then go to changes, which to get there is to put the corsor at your pic and click the word changes. then on top of the little box that says make you own custom signaure(Sorry for the spelling! Check that box) paste the code than save. How to make one is to copy and paste someone elses siggy and make different colors and saying on them. Make sure your user says Nightfall101 and not someones elses, and the same thing for the talk page. Their links. Glad I could help!!:) -- Santashadow Have A Very Purry Christmas! undefined 20:01, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Um...Let's see..Click on edit this page(your talk page) and copy my own code (It will show the code) then go to changes. scoll down until you see the little box that custom signature and click it, and above that paste my code on the blank. Then, check out my page (Well do that first) and right down the colors you want on the siggy. Than change the color (Backround and word coloring) then the words that have Santashadow Have A Very Purry Christmas! undefined 22:03, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Thanx for Nightkit and Robinkit, Night! where you have your icon of the starry night, just move the corser to that and changes will show up. -- Santashadow Have A Very Purry Christmas! undefined 20:29, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Charart help
hey nightfall? i wanted 2 ask u how you post up your charart. I have made one for nettlepaw but i don't know how to post it up! i have noticed you are always posting some up so i wanted to ask you. Thx! -- ♥Shine star♥  20:52, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

hi again, srry for bothering you, but i was wondering how to do the eyes, they are always bad when i open the file and everyone else's are always so good! can you please give me a link to some good ones or something? thank you! -- ♥Shine star♥  23:47, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Friends?
Hi Nightfall. I was wondering if we could be friends? I think your really nice and awesome at Charats! You are going to be a warrior once you get Silvermask or Night of No Stars approved! :D <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 00:30, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Friends?
Hi Nightfall. I was wondering if we could be friends? I think your really nice and awesome at Charats! You are going to be a warrior once you get Silvermask or Night of No Stars approved! :D <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 00:30, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

They do! Sign my friends list on my user page so everybody knows you my friend! You,Echomist and Moonshadow are my best best BEST friends ever! But don't you think Silvermask is a weird name? Like it could have been Silverstripe. I've been focusing editing articles lately because I only edit my userpage! :O <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 00:37, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Nightmask-Very dark gray,smoky gray almost black tom with river-blue eyes and one white paw and a silver tipped tail. There I made it! I really want them to make this cat! Oh and I have a warrior name Nightfall (who is you) in honor of you! Okay once you figured out how to use a siggy sign my the four tides on my friends list. How to make a siggy. First edit the part where I gave you a siggy. Copy the code go to "more" with the blue backround and the white text and the arrow. Then press "Perferences" then paste the code in the box right above "Custom Signature" check custom signature. Then if you want to make a new one change the colors and names. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 00:53, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I could do One-eye's elder picture. Okay

Name: Icewhisker

Gender: Tom

Rank: Warrior

Pelt: Silver-gray tom with river blue eyes.

Long or Short: Short haired.

Thanks! I'll have you make more of my Chararts! :D Lol <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 00:56, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

No warrior. Well a senior warrior but they don't have senior warrior blanks! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:00, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Oh and should I add Lightberry,Dawncloud and Sunfrost to LightingClan. After all this is your family. Oh and can I make a Charcat for you?

And how is it pronounced? Ca(long a sound)r cat or Char (like in Chocolate) cat? I know dumb question. Lol. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:12, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

They usually call it Charart. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:17, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

OMG YOUR SIGGY WORKS! Now you can have a siggy section on your userpage and put all your siggys down! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:25, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Hi--<span style="font-family:Mistral; background:Light Silver; border:3px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Deep purple;">Snowfall Let it snow, let it snow! 02:48, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Yello again! Icewhisker's hard to do because he's soooooooooo mean all the time!

So has Hawkey replied to your messages? She hasn't to me! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 02:53, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Midriff
Look at Bluestar's deputy image, or Ratscar's warrior image for example. The midriff is literally in the middle, the space between the hind leg and the body. Normally, with my highlights, that area left is already darker than the highlights anyway, so I usually don't have to worry about it too much, but Ratscar and Bluefur as a deputy are good examples to look at. -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 04:19, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

He's not okay. HE'S AMAZING! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 14:12, December 5, 2009

I like the lower caps siggy <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 17:24, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I'm really sorry! I checked the edit history (Don't ask me why I didn't the first time, I have no clue), and you did have Night reserved first. I'm really sorry about this, go ahead and put Night back up for approval. (I can't explain enough how sorry I am...) *hits self on head over and over again with really hard textbook* -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 23:03, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

screech of angry owl
Wait,there are mutipul Brambleclaw ones,all kinda of other cat picks,Can't screech of angry owl have 2?--Firepelt 02:11, December 6, 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

whatever
whatever--Firepelt 02:21, December 6, 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

reply
Even though im a cool,wise,and even tempered cat,I'm not afraid to speak out.(Growls loudle,raises hackles,sheats claws and bears teeth)--Firepelt 02:26, December 6, 2009 (UTC)Firepelt

Thanks
Thanks, Nightfall, that will help me.-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! |undefined 05:00, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

fine
I can see we both have our own thoughs about screech.(lets fur flatten and sheaths claws)I guess I agree with you.Friends?you caught me on a bad day.It happens.Usually,it takes alot to tread on my tail.--Firepelt 15:32, December 6, 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

friends
Cool.--Firepelt 19:31, December 6, 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

Thanks
Hi Nightfall- Thank you so much for your help with the charcat profiles. I've got one on my page, and I hope that it will help me in my editing. Thank you! Dusty --Duststar 19:31, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Warrior?
Sure, Nightfall. :) You've done a very good job creating chararts. -- Tinsel claw  19:36, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Did Hawkey Make you into a warrior?<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 20:10, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Hawk did? I thought she wasn't online. I'll never be made a warrior :( My friend Blacktail made an account. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 21:51, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Thats brilliant! Was I a good mentor, or did I slack off? Just wondering! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Jinglefire 'Tis the Holiday Season! 21:54, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Yes! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 21:55, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Thingy
How do you get a profile for your own made up warrior cat? I have been looking, but no answers. :(

Gingerpelt 01:57, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Gold Status
If the article has been voted into silver status, and been a feature article of the month for a reason other than content drive, than the Charart status is moved to gold. -- Tinsel claw  01:13, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Templates
That...is a very good question. I'd guess to just look at a character page and copy the codes, then fill the correct info. out, and there you go, but I don't actually know those codes. Sorry, I know this doesn't help much. (I'm just not helping at all today, am I? Not with the blank problem, or this, or how to get Photoshop. :P) -- Silversnow Icethroat says Happy Holidays! 03:42, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

It has? Wow, I am such an idiot. I just asked Bramble why it wasn't on the talk page. *Smacks head with a really hard text book* And yes it is my first one. Thanks! What is your next Charart going to be? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:25, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

GIVE ME MY TEXTBOOK! I HAVE TO STUDY! *grabs textbook then hides in a corner then has a smacking contest with Graystripe* Anyways I am waiting for a better art program to do Ryewhisker (I guess) and Dawnpelt. Which Charart should I do when I become a warrior? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:33, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Another Question...
The fact that she took an image for her user page is fine. Images aren't private on the internet, especially here. What would have not been okay is if she had said they were her own images. But she didn't, so it's fine. The only thing that's in question is the fact that there's only one image allowed on a user page. Thanks for telling me. You and Echopaw were quite close on which of you told me first. :) -- Tinsel claw  23:34, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Those are your personal approved chararts for PCA. They're fine, though if you made them into a subpage it'd be better, like I did with mine: User:Bramble/Charart. But whatever you wish. -- Tinsel claw  23:43, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

OMG. Echomist saw me and Graystripe fighting and she took my textbook away :( So what up? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 00:20, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

My friend is getting another cat! Same thing with my mom. Me,my friend and my other friend are hanging out on Sunday. We are going to see a movie but I'm not sure which one and we are going to Burger King. :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 13:05, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure. She is coming over my house on Sunday so I'll ask her. I am going to make my other 2 friends (Niki, Shannon) a Warriors Wiki account. Just figure out how much their missing on here! Wanna know my name? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:16, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. Anyways what do you want for Christmas?

Here is my list

1. Webkinz (yeah I like them)

2. iPod (Can't you believe I don't have one?)

3. A couple of beanie babies 2.0. ( Don't ask)

4. Have four Chararts approved! So I am a warrior (WOW! I better get started!)

5. A wonderful happyful, awesome Christmas! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:25, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

well
i somehow found a kittypet blank floating into space and made a smudge out of it. Heres what he looks like! XD

Sorry!
Sorry I haven't been on, Nightfall!!:) No, I don't know if you can still get that Monsters vs. Alien thingy...Thanx for the lineup of my cats family!!:) I'll try that! -- Santashadow Have A Very Purry Christmas! undefined 21:59, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Lionblaze
Oh, that's the older version. I'll reupload the newer version over it. Thanks for the notice. -- Tinsel claw  22:38, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Nighty! I made you a present:



Your cat Angel - er, Moonshine. ;)

-- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 00:39, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

No problem. ;) -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 00:41, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Nope. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:17, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

And Night. I need help with blurring the shading on my Nightwing! I tried a million times but it didn't work! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:18, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Blank
I don't mind at all.-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! |undefined 01:30, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Nightwing
Yes, I do! Please? Thanks! And can I make you a Charart? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:42, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Nightwing
Yes, I do! Please? Thanks! And can I make you a Charart? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:42, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Chararts
Would you mind looking at my chararts, Stormfur and Jayfeather, on the discussion page? -- Snow star <font color="Lime">Leaf-bare <font color="Red">is here! 01:10, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Thank you!! She looks soo cute and warm! No Hawkfire doesn't mean your cat. Wanna join my website? www.lightingclan.wikia.com. Join! It has a project you can make your own stories ad characters articles and you can join LightingClan! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:41, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Thank you!! She looks soo cute and warm! No Hawkfire doesn't mean your cat. Wanna join my website? www.lightingclan.wikia.com. Join! It has a project you can make your own stories ad characters articles and you can join LightingClan! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 01:41, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Snowkit
Relax, the user that uploaded their picture of Snowfur as a kit uploaded it over the image of Snowkit. It's been reverted and Snowfur's kit image has been given another file name. -- Tinsel claw  02:52, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Easy. Go to where the vandalized article says History across the top where Edit This Page is, and click on it. Then scroll to the vandal's latest edit to the page and on the side it says Undo, Block etc. Click Undo. Then after you do that, scroll down and hit Save Page. Then it will be normal again. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Jinglefire 'Tis the Holiday Season! 20:06, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Your credit will be THREE Chararts! What will they be? And she was approved? I am such a idiot! Anyways I have Ryewhisker up on the PCA talk page. I want it approved by Christmas! My friend DID get her cat! It is black and white and his name is Oreo. He loves to be patted! He is so fuzzy and soft! That is why me and my other friend are going over to her (Warriors808) house! You? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 12:55, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Also, your talk page is getting pretty long. Do you wanna ask Icethroat to archive it? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 12:59, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Can you reply to above? -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 00:53, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

gift
Heres an early present!I'll make more,but here you go!Srry the background is colored,i dont know why it is!Merry leafbare!--Firepelt 01:01, December 19, 2009 (UTC)Firepelt

Okay! No wait his name is not Oreo. I was talking about a other cat. He is a black and white kitten with amber eyes and his name is Abiline. I'll work on those Chararts. Can you please leave new messages at the bottom of my page? Anyways whats your FAVORITE warrior cat EVER! Mine would have to be Brambleclaw. Well I am only on Firestar's Quest so what do I know? -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 01:05, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Wanna go on www.waterfallclan.piczo.com We can chat. I will be on as Icestorm and I will be in Shimmer Falls. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 01:10, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Don't forgot. Bye! :) -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 01:20, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

OMG
OMG I LOVE YOUR X-MAS CAT!!!!! I LOVE HOW YOU COLORED MY BLANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-- :) Jingletalon Christmas is on the way!!! |undefined 02:25, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Templates

 * Just go to the page for the template, example: Template:Crowfeather Tree, and click the edit link at the top. You can then edit the family tree just as you would on a normal page, and then when you use the template, it shows up like that. (This is why I've been changing as many pages as I can to the template, so they can be more consistent). Feel free to change any mistakes in them but make sure you have book confirmation before adding any new members (not that I think you would, but just be wary :P ) Insaneular | raluenasnI  13:03, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, Nighteh! :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Jinglefire 'Tis the Holiday Season! 15:22, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Furled Bracken
The only reason I let the to-be blanks act for the ancient cats as well was that there was no real difference between them. They trained to be sharpclaws, and were watched over by others of the group. But in Furled Bracken's and Stoneteller's case, their roles are different from a Clan leader. Stoneteller is partially a medicine cat, and he rarely even leaves the cave. Furled Bracken and the ancients could elect different leaders, and they were really only acting in charge for a brief period. So I think we should wait on a healer blank; not for a while, though, if you're thinking of making one yourself. -- Tinsel claw  20:08, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Hawkey left. :( I am still trying to get her back. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 20:50, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'm leaving because I decided to. This wikia is kinda getting old, and boring. I'm tired of the only thing to do is make a charart. This wikia has changed so much since I joined. *sighs with old memories.* It's not the same anymore. You can find me on Warriors Characters Wikia. Thanks for the farewell, and Merry Christmas. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Jinglefire 'Tis the Holiday Season! 20:57, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

She is leaving because nobody talks to her, it's not like the old wiki, it doesn't have a point. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 20:57, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. I am crying right now in real life. I might even quit too. She made me so upset. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 21:03, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

I will look at my messages, though I may not respond. That would be nice if you made me a gift :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Jinglefire 'Tis the Holiday Season! 21:06, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

No. I like this wiki better. It's not the same without her! I post a poll on my page saying if I should leave or not. Everyone is going to say "You should leave" -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 21:08, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Well, I am not going to because she is. Well, I do have you that's right. Thanks :') Wanna chat on warriors Characters? -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 21:19, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

There is no place you can be. You can post a message on my talk page. I will reply. You reply. And it repeats.. And I am still crying. That tissue didn't really work. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 21:25, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Hey wanna go on the IRC instead? Scroll on my talk page until you see IRC section and just type what Bramble says. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 21:38, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Go here and type in #wikia-warriorcats-pca for the channel. I'll be there as Icestorm. :) -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 21:54, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Type "hi" then press enter. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 22:10, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Re:Just Curious
I don't know what changed, you should probably ask Hawk about that. Kitsu was our former admin, and she was able to get a lot done and keep the wiki running better than I ever would be able to. Project:World and others stopped because she got too busy to be able to be here in real life. We all owe to her that the wiki is what it is today, in any case. -- Tinsel claw  22:17, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Night, I think I am the reason why Hawkey left! Also join my new wikia! www.warriorkittysrox.wikia.com! -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 01:47, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

Charart Requests
Hi Night. I really appreciate that you're nice enough to make chararts for your fellow users, and that your artistic skills permit you to do so, but all the users here are only allowed one image. It saves space and cuts down on useless and unnecessary images. The upload log's purpose is for the images of the wiki; not images for the users.

If a user asks you to make a charart, you can be all means do so, but only one. Please don't do any more than that. The multiple images that you made for Moonshadow are taking up needed space that images for the wiki could fill. Thanks, Bramble  -sama  02:51, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

It's all good. :) I just wanted to let you know. -- Bramble -sama  03:10, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Project World
Kitsu is busy with real life. Project World will be active in the near future.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:24, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

yeah, I can't tell you any more than Grayravenpaw just did, as when I joined, Kitsu was already inactive :/ However, I'm guessing that sometime soon a new leader will be nominated, like Bramble was nominated to be the new leader of Project Books, and like Skyfeather was nominated to be the new leader for PC. <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  19:59, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Night I think I am the reason why Hawkey left! Also I made a new wiki. www.warriorkittysrox.wikia.com -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 00:18, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Please reply Nighty! I need you! -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love

I think I am! Everybody on this wiki hates me. Nobody talks to me. I suck at Chararts. EVERYBODY HATES ME! I COULD BE THE REASON WHY HAWKEY LEFT! -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 00:44, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

This girl at school who's name is Kaysa. She said everybody hates me in the school and on every other stupid website I'm on. I felt really sad, but then it became true. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 00:53, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Okay.

Well at my lunch all of my friends are their. Kaysa became sitting with us. Always giving me a dirty stare. But then her sister Najma started telling my friends about her. They sit with her all the time. I sit alone. I keep crying at the computer all day, that's way you don't see me editing pages a lot. Then at school, I never talked to anybody. I just sat their alone. I was only thinking about you guys here. But then I was like "why should I think about the,? They ll hate me, but Night is the only one that likes me," Hey haven't made any spelling mistaes! Wait I just did! -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 01:08, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

But they don't understand! Why don't you give me a line I have to say? I just don't know what to say! Also add me on Youtube! I will give you the link in a second. Also, Kaysa knows me on Youtube. She heard of Hawkey leaving. And she blamed me! She gives me mean,hurtful comments which make me cry. She called me a "meanie! EVERYBODY HATES YOU HAHHAHAHAHAHAH!" just becuase this boy called my friend Niki selfish. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 01:18, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

They barely even talk to me any more... -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 01:34, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

RE:Question
No, it means that the article was previously featured on the main Page. For currently featured, add. It looks like this:. For the past featured one, add It'll look like this:  –– Σ   ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:17, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Re:

 * sighs* Very well then. This wiki is getting a little boring. -- Pan dast orm <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda Love 21:00, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

I know. They love me. I am a Christan. But what will I do? Also, comment on my Molepelt and Ryewhisker on the PCA disscusion page! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 23:28, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas Night. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">:D Jinglestorm ♥ 'Merry Purry Christmas! 00:55, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

?
am i aloud to use your idea of the misiltoe thingy?!':)--HI 14:24, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!!

 * Wow, Thanks for that! I love it! XDDD I made one bit of warriors-Christmas art, but I can make you something specifically, too. *Goes to GIMP* <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  14:38, December 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * Here it is! Hope you like it. It's Graystripe and Silverstream, since that is one of your favorite couples :) <font color="#009999">Insane <font color="#FF9900">Batteries not Included  15:24, December 25, 2009 (UTC)