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Leaf (Ro) ~ For Approval
Meh, I fail. Anyways, I put "For Evaluation" because this is my first charart! But as I've seen in other discussions, it can be removed when the user knows what he/she knows what they're doing. So, comments? -- 23:51, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Can you darken the highlights a smidge? The seem shiny. Nice job! 1:56 Wed Nov 6

He needs to be black and white, if I'm not mistaken. 01:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink and give him a gray nose 04:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I ended up having to redo the whole image...if there is a way to make a gray and white cat black and white without redoing the image, please tell me. This took up so much of my time. *.* -- 20:28, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

The shading on the white is very gray. Also, define the unshaded parts more. Also, can you make the pattern a bit more realistic, like this maybe? I like those eyes. ;) 23:00 Wed Nov 6

Re-uploaded 'Kay, for some reason, the wiki won't let me upload this image, so I brought a link with me. Thanks Hawk for the picture, it helped. Changes are.

To be perfectly honest, the pattern was more realistic before... I think that pattern was just fine.

I think this one is more realistic, just overblurred. Maybe try smudging it instead of blurring it so much? 0:35 Thu Nov 7

Hmmm..Maybe try to aim for it to look like this? I did a quick version of what I'd do..maybe you can get some tips and pointers from this. ;) 04:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Dark, I do apologize, but that's not very natural either, and I'm going to agree with Paleh, that the pattern before was more realistic. Perhaps try to go back to that one if possible? I liked it. *.*

That's fine, Cloudy. It was only a 30 second job..xD 21:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I kind of liked the pattern before. I switched back. ouo -- 22:08, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Okay, I kind of blurred the ear pink because I thought it looked...odd. -- 22:09, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

The earpink is leaking out of the ear. Also, can you sharpen the black patches, as they seem overblurred? 1:00 Fri Nov 8

Re-uploaded I switched back to the originals, so there aren't any black patches anymore. Blurred ear pink, though. -- 01:45, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

It looks over-smudged. Sharpen the black patches, they're losing their shape definition 05:43, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

'Kay, I'm sorry to say this, but I'm going on a trip to China to see my relatives for two weeks, which means I don't get to finish this image in time. I just found out about the Internet connection there and let me say...it's not to hot. So, can someone please take over. I was so mad, but I guess fairest is fairest...-- 21:51, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

I'll take over. 01:36, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Uploaded. Bahh, I guess it's okay. ._. I thought about texturing the white for some time while making, but then decided it wouldn't look good..soo, Comment away my friends! And may they be good. c: 02:48, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't align your images. Also the pattern isn't very realistic, maybe something like this, or even this would work. Also define the shading, earpink and nosepink, I'm having a bit of trouble seeing them. -- 02:54 Sat Nov 9

Also, maybe smudging instead of blurring would work. 3:35 Sat Nov 9

Re-uploaded. This came out beautifully..I followed first suggestion-cat, Wildd. And sorry about the aligning image thing, didn't know. See changes |here if the wiki is acting up again. 13:26, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading. 20:21 Sat Nov 9

I don't really know how to put this in better words, but something about the black patches seems to be throwing me off. Maybe define them, or...I don't really know. Just saying. -- 17:32, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I can't exactly see the ear pink. Maybe darken it? -- 01:50, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

You can see the earpink just fine? o.o It's practically whacking people in the face, imo. And if I darken it, I'll have to lighten it. So, it's fine. As for the pattern, it's from an actual black-and-white cat, so I won't change it.. And, they are defined enough, and if I define them anymore, it'll make this image look slightly over-defined, and possibly pixelated. But yeah, Hawky, I'll define that shading. c: But, thanks for your comments, Brightpool, and please recognize that I'm not brushing them off, but, because what you have mentioned, are in perfect shape and form, I will not change unless someone else points it out/agrees to your comments. Hope that made sense! I re-upload tonight. 17:57, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I'm actually going to agree with Brightpool on this one. I think the black is a teeny bit too dark (and coming from me, that's saying something since I love black and white cats), and they seem a little too overblurred. The earpink could also be a little more pink-ish, imho, but not all that more. I think the pattern itself is good, however.

Re-uploaded. Thanks. I hope this fixed the problems.. 20:13, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Please leave a image-hosting link of the image. I honestly have no clue what version I'm looking at 20:20 Mon Nov 11

The black patch on the tail is gray on the bottom. -- 21:26, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops! Sorry~ And as for the gray, that's the tail shading. 22:05, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Then if that's the tail shading for the black patch, shouldn't it be darker, because gray is lighter than black...sorry if a sound like a pain in the butt, but I just noticed it right now. -- 23:34, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, you're not a pain! c; But, the reason I won't make it a darker gray, is because you may not be able to see the shading. And then, I'll have to revert it back to this current version. But, if someone else agrees with you, I'll change it. :) 00:06, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading quite a fair bit. Also, lighten the black a bit and darken the shading on the black only. Also, what's up with the tail, and why is there a lighter gray stripe on it? If that's shading, it should be darker, not lighter? I'm confused as to what's part of the pattern on the tail and what's shading and/or highlights.

Re-uploaded. I re-did parts of the image, so the black was less intense so you could see the shading. Zipped the stupid pale stripe on the tail, which originally was a stupid-attempt-at-shading-black. :P I tried to make the black not look over smudged/blurred. But hey, it never looks good to me. At least you can see the shading now, and I'd prefer not to touch it anymore. So yeah. 00:19, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

sorry for making you touch the shading ;c The shading on either sides of the belly/back (yes, that whole mid-section area) are very "streaky" (for lack of better word) and need generous expansion, blurring, and lightening (they are very dark/gray). Also, the patches are extremely blurry in some areas, and not blurred in others. If you want, hit me and email and I'll be more than happy to help you with tinting so you can not have to worry about the shading looking gray, but promice me you will use it.. .-. 03:06 Fri Nov 15

Lol, sure I promise. Hit me an email, because believe me, I could really use some tips and pointers. Black-'n'-white cats are beginning to be the death of me. xD Even though, they're one of my personal favorites. 03:42, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading some, as well? Besides what Kelps said, they could be more smoother and less blurred. 23:28, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't uploaded, my computer died. :O I'm getting a new one..Uploads will be either tonight or tomorrow. 20:53, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. c: 01:39, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

The shading on the white needs to be thickened and blurred 23:04, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Now, I'd prefer not to touch the shading anymore. I like the darkness of it right now, and don't really want to change it, as shading darkness is artists choice. Any more comments on the black-'n'-white kitteh? xD 02:52, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, the shading on both sides of the belly need tons of blurring and expanding. Also, why is it smudged? O.o Either smudge the rest to match of blur it out- it needs blurring anyways, so... 06:27 Sat Nov 23

Withdrawing, sadly..I just can't get him to look right. I'll work on River's kit or something. 21:26, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to go ahead and take over on this. 21:41, 11/24/2013

Re-uploaded From doing this I learned that shading black cats is not my strong point. 02:55, 11/26/2013

Darken and define the shading - it looks flat and hard to see. wow he is very pretty 19:17, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 00:54, 12/1/2013

Add some shading to the left of the hind legs to define their placement this is pretty 09:44 Sun Dec 1

Smooth out the tail shading - it looks a bit blotchy. 17:17, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Could just be my screen, but there seems to be quite a bit of waste around the face, back of the neck, paws, belly and under the tail. 01:04, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded My god, I entirely forgot I had this up, I apologize. 23:09, 12/8/2013

Snowfur (Q) - For Approval
Thar she blows! I wanted to do a white cat because I haven't done one since.. Whiteberry. <span style="">16:04 Fri Nov 8

Define the shading. Pretty!

Define the eye depth a bit, too? 21:16, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reups! Thanks! <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">11:31 Sun Nov 10

I think her eyes still need to be defined better. Maybe make her black pupils wider? Amazing job, Amber! -- 19:28, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the shading on the upper chest just a bit? It's a bit blotched. Great job! <span style="">00:41 Tue Nov 12

Reups! Hi. Thank yooou, <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">18:40 Tue Nov 12

recheck your lightsource use a sig sub page maooo >;c <span style="">03:08 Fri Nov 15

Could you specify what you mean? Just saying that is extremely vague and not really helpful at all, imho.

Lol you're right. The tail and belly read that the light coming from our right, and the hind leg off the ground as well as the face read coming from the left, and the other legs are too flat to read. I'll make a tutorial and put it up on a subpage of mine, I'm working on it. <span style="">18:33 Sat Nov 16

Could you smooth out the shading on the chest? It's starting to get a tad blotchy. 23:29, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

I think the ear <--- this way needs a bit more gray.

Reups <span style="">16:07 Wed Nov 20

Where's your light source coming from? 00:40, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that's great, Amber! Her pupils need to be more wider. <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Dotted 2px #EB234E; background: #0A7AFA; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"> *Swanflutter*  Warriors is my life~  06:18, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Eye style is artist's choice Swan.

Still working? 02:05, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

The top left sorry I've been ill <span style="">17:32 Thu Nov 28

Can you smudge the gray on the ear tips maybe a bit, as it looks a bit hard-edged at this moment.

Still working? 20:22, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Reups It's been a month tomorrow *wails* <span style="">16:27 Fri Dec 6

River (Ki) ~ For Approval
My little River <3 All colors are from the StarClan image. Comment away~ 21:58, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and he needs to be longhaired. Would you also mind adding some neck shading? It looks kinda sourceless without it. The colors don't quite match either, but I think that's because the shading is tinted on his other images, so try that?

hes gotta be tabby 22:03, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

I have a pattern for the tabby by the way - I can email the .xcf of it too you, if you want o3o 22:06, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Lol, sorry 'bout that Cloudy~ I tried it. And yeah sure, Beebs, that'd be great. My email is darkfrosty.frosty@gmail.com c: 22:17, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

sent~ hope you have an easy time matching the pattern 22:54, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Define your shading, it's looking flat 18:08, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Darken the shading too.

Thanks Beebs. Mind telling me how you did the stripes? I got the pattern down alright, I just can't get them to look like the StarClan's stripes. 02:45, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, Beebs, sorry if I'm confused, but why is Dark obligated to match your pattern? She's the first artist of the set, she can make whatever pattern she wants? Or did I miss out on something? <span style="">08:09 Tue Nov 26

Um, Kelps, I'm tweaking the set. I also asked to make the pattern is well, so that's why she has to match mine.

To Dark, I used a size one brush, and blurred at rate one with Gaus. blur, and smudged the tail stripes with a size one brush. 19:14, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Beebs. I'll have it up tomorrow. 03:31, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Here's a friendly reminder to not forget to upload! You have until Sunday night to re-upload~

Thanks, Cloudy! I'll have him up before then. 14:08, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. x.x Well, I followed Beebs' instructions precisely~ Hope you guys like it, and won't beat me down for not being really good at tabby's. 14:43, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thicken and darken the stripes a tad - they look lighter than the one I sent you ouo. Maybe try blurring lightly? 14:51, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Define and darken the shading. <span style="">16:43 Fri Nov 29

Blur the shading as well.

Re-uploaded. Not touching shading anymore, as it is artists choice on darkness. But I sharpened/darkened the stripes, Beebs. c: 00:17, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

That only applies to when the shading is too dark. Right now, it's currently too light. Please darken it some.

I think the darkness is fine on the gray, but on the stripes it's much too light, to the point where it blends with the pelt color. Also, I can't see a source. <span style="">00:43 Sat Nov 30

I disagree. I can't even see the shading. o.O And it's not my monitor because I just checked on multiple settings and I still can't see the shading on here... I honestly think it should be defined and darkened. The artist's choice thing only applies to the shading when you're asked to lighten the shading, not darken it.... That's what I was always taught, anyways.

I think the shading could be darkened some. Sure, it is artist's choice, but there is a point where you need to darken it, and I believe this image's shading needs to be darkened to be more visible ouo 01:10, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

It's kinda hard to make it more visible with the tinting..Maybe I can use a darker gray-blue. But I won't darken it that much, since I want to keep the stripes visible. I'll get to it soon. ;) 14:07, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Match the stripes to the starclanner on the main body a bit. They look lighter and a different pattern to the starclanner. 15:29, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

If you set the stripes layer mode on multiply, they shouldn't be fading in the shading. And yeah, I agree you should darken it more.

Re-uploaded. Darkened the shading some, and made the stripe pattern match more. 20:58, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

I can still barely see the shading, and it kind of merges with the color of the stripes. <span style="">0:21 Tue Dec 3

The earpink needs more smudging <span style="">05:29 Thu Dec 5

I think the earpink is fine, because that's how it is done exactly on the Starclanner. But if someone else agrees with you, I'll do so. Uploading in a second.. 14:16, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I hope you can see the shading now..because I sure can. I boldened[if that's how you spell it?] the stripes, so you could see them in the shading as well. -.- It's kinda hard working with these colors and tints, believe me. 14:29, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Comments, please? 22:33, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Define the overall shading, please. I know it's there, but it appears faint around the body and neck areas? Also it was only just two days, chill out with asking for comments, please. We'll comment when we can, and not everyone is patrolling 24/7.

Re-uploaded. Sorry, I just was free for awhile that day. cx I may redo the image soon..I think my layers are beginning to merge... e.e 16:52, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Gorsetail (P3) (Q) ~ CBA
I actually picked the stupidest most complicated stripe pattern out jesus 02:35, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Leave more of a gap of plain grey between the last stripe closest to the shoulder and the white, and smudge it quite a bit. I think I'm going to cry ;c you just made my art skills look like crap with your amazing artyness  <span style="">07:12 Tue Nov 26

I disagree, Kelpsey. They're actually two different sides, and wouldn't be completely symmetrical. Smudging might need to be done a tad (but that's really up to the sheep to decide), but as for the plain gray gap, it's unneeded and it looks fine as-is.

Okay, since no one else has commented, I'm gonna CBA this.

So sorry to interrupt. :3 Why is it I'm always the one to break the CBA's .-. But, since you smudged all the gray fur into the white, I think you should smudge the gray into the white on the tail-tip, as well. After that, you may continue this. c: Looks amazing. 23:18, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Murrr the solid gray is smudged into the white... But the stripes aren't. Can you smudge those in, to match the warrior? I remember, when I was doing this image someone pointed that out. <span style="">00:03 Sat Nov 30

They do appear smudged, though? At least to me they do... I think it just looks different because Breezey and David style their images differently, and completely matching another user's style is complicated and they're also two different sides of an image...

All that I see, is that the gray was smudged slightly into the white to give it that furry effect on the body. I just don't see that effect on the tail-tip. I don't see the gray smudged ever-so-slightly into the white. That's what I'm yearning to see. So sorry if I caused an argument, but I'd prefer if you would please do so, skt. ouo 14:12, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

It's smudged, but you might not be able to see it because of the tail stripes? Personally, I think the tail is fine as-is.

Whatever..that's fine I guess. 21:26, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The tail is smudged, it's just a little had to see. I smudged the shoulder grey area a bit more, and the stripes a tad, and I have no idea how I did the stripes on the first version of the queen, so I'm trying my best. 23:59, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

The stripes look a bit pixel-y. Maybe soften their edges just a bit, so certain sections don't look quite so square? 03:40, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine, it's more of a style preference. Wonderful, skt~ <span style="">07:09 Tue Dec 3

I agree with Leggo. Compared to the warrior, the stripes on this look pretty sharp and pixel-y. 00:57, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better? 12:46, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

CBA? 22:22, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Nettle (Ro) ~ For Approval
Nettle~ changes be here. 22:36, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Define the leg shading and blur the belly/side shading.

Reups  12:16, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Define the leg shading for the two on the back of the image. Like the two we can't see the entire leg. I think it would be the right legs??? I can't explain it very well I'm sorry.

I think you mean the ones away from us, correct? me neither <span style="">09:57 Sun Dec 1

Yes, those are the ones I mean. I'm horrible with words.

Reups how about the legs furthest from us? c: 18:47, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

The shading on the hind leg furthest from us seems to cut off right before it's covered up y the other hind leg. Expand it up the leg, so it doesn't just stop so abruptly. 20:45, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Reups 15:47, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Try darkening the shading on the tail just a little bit.

No, shading darkness is artist's choice; and I think it's fine. 15:09, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on the furthest leg >>>>> that way. <span style="">19:14 Tue Dec 3

Eh? I don't know what >>>>> means, but I think all the legs are fine. 19:16, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think >>>>> means [that side] of the image. It is an arrow. <span style="">1:29 Wed Dec 4

Comments, please? 21:15, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Define the tail shading. 02:56, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Reups 03:01, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Comments? 18:55, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Mapleshade (A) ~ For Evaluation
This is my apprentice charart of Mapleshade. Comments please? Ⓐngel Ⓢⓣⓤⓓⓘⓞ (talk) 22:42, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Wow! This is awesome for your first charart! Great job! Maybe define your tail and paw shading, and I think there's a bit of waste around the image. 22:52, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the black line at the earpink. Looks pretty, Angel. c:  23:24, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

This needs to be named File:Mapleshade.apprentice.png, other than that this is very pretty! -- <span style="">07:17 Sun Dec 1

I don't think she'd get the ragged fur, as she was described with it in TLH, as a rogue, but I could be wrong. 19:44, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Does she need texture? I'm not sure if it's the shading on her other ones. 21:20, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Mapleshade (Ki) - For Approval
Comments? -- <span style="">23:32 Fri Nov 29

This... Looks... Awesome. One thing, the tail should be a little more puffy. AWESOME!!! :D 01:13, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

I think it looks fine. It is an extremely small blank, after all.

Define the eye depth. Looks pretty as always. c: 18:23, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that all colors are from her queen image, which Raven just recently did. I don't think you can really define it anymore since you only have three or four pixels of eyecolor area to start with. Although could you lighten the white a teeny bit if you don't mind?

I don't think she'd get the ragged fur, as she was described with it in TLH, as a rogue, but I could be wrong. 19:44, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

On Beebs's comment, I doubt she'd have ragged fur as a kit. 21:19, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Leafpool (Q) - For Approval
Comments? -- <span style="">23:32 Fri Nov 29

Go over the stripes with a tiny smudge tool lightly, just to get a slightly fuzzy texture. Great job. .o. 00:26, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Would you mind thickening the belly shading just a bit?

Re-ups -- <span style="">03:24 Sat Nov 30

She doesn't need to put a texture on...that's completely optional. 03:51, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

The texture is on all of her other images, so I assumed this one should match the others. Anyways, Raven, could you blur and thicken the belly shading a touch more? 20:43, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Still working? 23:09, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

re-ups -- <span style="">02:16 Sat Dec 7

Fix the eyes the look out of position --Velvetmoon (talk) 23:48, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

I think the eyes look find to me - it's artist's choice ouo 22:38, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Splashnose (Q) - For Approval
Just in time <span style="">16:49 Sat Nov 30

I can't see the stripes at all?

I can see them fine? I think it's just your monitor... And as for the tail, it's mottled and doesn't have stripes. <span style="">19:00 Sat Nov 30

No, I can barely see them. 19:05, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

The mottles will have to go, as she has /no/ cite for them.

Reuploaded I think the color should be good now. I don't want to lose that dusty hue so I'd prefer to keep them as-is. And though I removed the tail mottles, I did take it from a reference image. <span style="">09:28 Sun Dec 1

Define the earpink a bit? Wonderful job! 15:08, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

I still can't tell what are stripes and what aren't... please try and differentiate between the two, and it's not my monitor, because it's been on multiple settings and I still can't tell them apart. Also it doesn't matter if it's from a reference image; if she has no cite for them, she doesn't get them.

Well umm what do you want me to do about it <span style="">20:09 Sun Dec 1

Well, perhaps make it so the stripes can be told apart from the base? I mean, it also doesn't seem like there are any stripes on the belly at all, but instead just random streaks of brown? And the base seems far too dark, and she looks almost black and brown. Perhaps try changing things around a bit? I'm sorry but I really cannot tell what's part of the base and what's the stripes? I can't see if the brown is the base and the "blackish" color are the stripes or vise-versa?

Reuploaded. I'm not going any lighter than this. <span style="">20:28 Sun Dec 1

The base still looks a bit too dark. Maybe thin out the stripes a touch and lighten the shading, or lighten the base and stripe color just a touch more. 20:41, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I was /not/ willing to lighten the base pelt and I forgot how I did those stripes so I screwed around a little bit and deleted 2 of my shading layers and added highlights. This isn't even dusty any more imho but whatever <span style="">02:03 Tue Dec 3

Dusty brown is a light-colored gray-brown. I think to make it look more dusty you'll need to lighten and desaturate the colors of the stripes a bit more, for their dark, bold color, (and the sheer amount of her pelt they take up) are taking away from that dusty color you just described being unable to see. 03:36, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Ok there we go. Thanks so much Legs <span style="">07:15 Tue Dec 3

Okay really stupid question. Are the stripes darker or lighter in this case? I'm sorry, I know I sound stupid, but I'd kinda like to know so I don't critique the wrong thing. Like, the only thing that even makes me question this is the belly/back areas? Especially along the upper back, there doesn't appear to be any stripes? Unless the darker color are the stripes, which if it is, completely disregard me... I seriously can't tell, I apologize. x.x

They're the darker color... And as for the back, (this isn't my reference image) large stripe-colored patches do exist on some marble tabbies. <span style="">00:09 Wed Dec 4

I think the stripes need to be lightened a bit more, as I believe when she was described as dusty-brown, the erins meant for her stripes, as well. They look too dark to be dusty still. (And for future reference, those aren't patches, those are still stripes. Very thick, clumped stripes.) 00:02, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Mothflight (Kit) - For Approval
Comments? -Feather 17:16, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Define and expand the shading. <span style="">22:35 Sat Nov 30

I think the body shading itself is fine and doesn't need to be expanded, but it does on the feet and maybe on the tail.

Thicken the shading along her side/back. 20:41, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. -Feather 16:33, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Define the leg shading just a bit, and her back paw looks a bit flat. Maybe darken the shading around the edges? 19:24, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. -Feather 11:46, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

There's waste around the paws. Also, assuming your light source is coming from, you should probably erase some shading on/add a highlight to the tail. 13:21, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. -Feather 15:58, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Mitzi (KP) (Q) ~ For Approval
Evrett's a lazy bum and didn't feel like making the image himself. xD He says she's also got darker patches so Imma go fix that now.

Re-uploaded. <internal screaming because pattern>

The white looks a bit gray, mostly on the face, belly and tail. Absolutley sponetaneous 15:46, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

It's not white, Sorrel. It's supposed to be gray.

Blur or lighten up the stomach shading a tad? It makes it look like a different color compared to the rest of the gray. 19:23, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

I don't actually get what you mean? It looks to be the same color to me...

Tawnypelt (Alt. Q2) - For Approved
Swiftpaw's pretty sister from another mister.... Now in pale ginger! Emberpoppy7 (talk) 23:39, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

Pretty! Lighten her up a bit, and dull the highlights. 23:52, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

'''Re-upped. '''I'm not quite sure what you mean by dull the shading, but I lightened her a bit. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 00:31, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, Ember, you can only have one original image up at a time - and this counts as one. So, you have to either withdraw Alder or this one D: 00:39, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Nooooooooooo D: Well I've been working on Alder for a month and I am not going to give up on her so this one has to go. *muffled sobs* I'm so sorry, Tawnypelt. I will avenge your withdrawal. (jkjk) Emberpoppy7 (talk) 00:45, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

re-up I've taken over 22:14, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Comments? 18:21, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe smudge the stripes a bit more consistently? Or sharpen the belly shading a bit. That area looks a bit off, and I can't exactly place why. 19:53, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

re-up  20:09, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Leopardfoot (Q) - For Approval
Dear StarClan... * gapes*  All colors are from her old queen and apprentice. Changes here 01:55, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Round out the darker spots a bit. 03:44, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes 04:12, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Smudge the spots. This is lovely~ <span style="">1:28 Wed Dec 4

I'm not sure how to describe this, but it really doesn't look like it matches, pelt-wise. The shape of the spots seem to be it, and how they don't flow with the rest of the pelt, like how it does on the other images?? 00:00, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 05:27, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe put the layer with the spots below the mottles? Emberpoppy7 (talk) 23:42, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 17:38, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Cloud (KM) (Q) - For Approval
-phew- c: 23:59, December 3, 2013 (UTC)

Ooh, purty! Smuge the pelt into the ear-pink a bit more and maybe thin the shading a bit on the legs 00:05, December 4, 2013 (UTC)

Define the light on the back leg closest to us. Love the eyes! <span style="">16:32 Fri Dec 6

Reuploaded. wheee. 00:31, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Mistmouse (Q) ~ For Approval
Did anyone notice the changes to wikia? Comments? <span style="">23:54 Wed Dec 4

Thicken the stripes a bit? tiny shnoflakes  19:19, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Define shading a little? Pretty! 20:34, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you! <span style="">0:10 Fri Dec 6

Cinders (Q) - For Approval
Omg <span style="">16:30 Fri Dec 6

The light source makes no sense, and the white is gray in areas. Also, smudge the white into the black more. <span style="">21:42 Fri Dec 6

Also, you are missing the gray patches. <span style="">23:59 Fri Dec 6

Redscar (Star) ~ For Approval
He was very fun to make. Comments? <span style="">5:06 Sat Dec 7

I'm sorry Hawky, but you can only have one original image up at a time, since Mistmouse didn't have a queen image before. You'll have to either withdraw him or her. 05:08, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Oh whoops, I forgot about that. XD My bad. Oh well, I will withdraw him. <span style="">18:18 Sat Dec 7

Reuploaded. I took overrrrr 23:43, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Define the eye depth. Puurty <span style="">13:27 Sun Dec 8

Alder (Ki) ~ For Approval
hi changes are here and I'll do stuff when I get home from work.

Smudge the gray some more? 20:44, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I don't want to smudge it too terribly much, I hope you don't mind.

Mind defining the shading on the paws a little more? I like this a lot. c:  22:16, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine for now, but if others agree with you, I'll go ahead and do it.

Just a little more. <span style="">0:10 Mon Dec 9

Re-uploaded. i redid it again because my layers merged ;-; plus I like this

Define the shading? This is sooo cute o.o 18:54, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Owl Eyes (Ki) ~ Under Evaluation
this is little owl eyes please rate --Velvetmoon (talk) 00:06, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

The lineart seems to be a different color than black. Also, define/add shading, the image looks choppy, and the eyes look cross-eyed. Also, please remove the alignment. <span style="">0:50 Sun Dec 8

I'm pretty sure there's no citation for Owl Eyes as a kit? 02:49, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Yes there is in Thunder Rising. --Neverendingmoon (talk) 02:57, December 8, 2013 (UTC)Neverendingmoon

Yes, he's Turtle Tail's kit. Is the lineart blurred, or is it my screen? 03:02, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

My bad, I don't own that book. He already has a kit image, so a SW will have to decline this, I'm afraid. 03:03, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

But they're not confirmed to be the same, Dazzle, no matter what the similarity - we'll have to wait for it to be confirmed. Until then, he gets this. This should be named 'Owl Eyes.kit.png', upload it over Amber's old version. 03:19, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

I fixed cross eyes and all the line arts there and no blured line art. --Velvetmoon (talk) 09:49, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading? I can't see any. 22:15, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Currently the image is a .jpg, could you please upload it as a .png? Also, there appears to be a background, that needs to be made transparent. <span style="">23:19, 12/8/2013

Eyes need to be enlarged, since those are what he's named for. Also there's waste everywhere. If you're not already, try using layers in your image. 12:22, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Mistystar (Q) ~ For Approval
Comments? I adore the falling snow on the screen 02:24, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. This is lovely! <span style="">3:49 Sun Dec 8

Reups thank you c: 03:57, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

The shading's leaking away form the bottom of the belly and the back of the tail. 17:43, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reups 20:46, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Clovertail (Q) ~ For Approval
Comments? <span style="">3:49 Sun Dec 8

Define your earpink a smidge? She's gorgeous o.o 04:33, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you, Sorrel. <3 <span style="">4:50 Sun Dec 8

Heathertail (Alt W) - For Approval
I should probably go do my homework now. 06:58, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Sharpen the white a little? This is pretty~! <span style="">07:41 Sun Dec 8

Reuploaded. Sharpest I could get it without having colored pixels pop up everywhere. 10:56, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit.

Define the shading on the front paw farthest from us, and add some shading on the head between the ears, since the ears would cause it to be shaded. 19:18, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Ferncloud (Alt Q) ~ For Approval
Comments? 19:24, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Nice work! I would say define the shading on the tail, it's a bit hard to see. 22:03, Dec. 9, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine, unless someone else disagrees ouo 19:14, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it needs defined..maybe add more depth to it? Looks pretty, Beebs. c:  19:15, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

The depth itself is fine, I think. Although since she is dark gray, would you object to adding a little bit of light in the non-shaded areas so it doesn't appear to be all in shading? If you add the lighter parts (but not all that light), that might make it seem a little more... "depth-y" for lack of a better word?

Ashfoot (Q) ~ For Approval
She's purrty. c: Comment away~ 22:12, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Smooth out and define the shading on the belly. The defining only needs a little bit though. Nice job, Frosty! <span style="">0:09 Mon Dec 9

Re-uploaded. Thank you, Hawky! c: 16:08, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the overall shading, especially on the tail and all four legs/paws, and perhaps darken it a little bit as well.