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Brackenfur (W) ~ Redone
Spot, finally! Any way, needed to match kit. OA = Sparrowsong. Comments? 22:42, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but... this looks almost nothing like his kit. The pattern on the kit is tight, and this is extremely loose. 22:54, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Just go crazy and add a bunch of squiggly stripes between the ones you've already placed. It's hard to make it not match this way 23:02, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

'''Re-uploaded. '''Sucking with matching images, who noticed? Any way, comments? 23:25, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Blurthe shading. 8F Sky Dovahkiin 01:22, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller and blur it. 02:13, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Losing it, I nearly recked it while in chat and i started to hyperventilate. Crud, forgot the scar, i'll add that next time round. 02:45, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Light the shading on his paws and blur it. 02:58, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Still needs more stripes. Really, go nuts. 04:24, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading, earpink, and the stripes a tad. 06:12, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 20:49, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Add the scar. 05:08, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Add a stripe or two in the thin "traingle" on the back of his neck/shoulder, add one to the top of his haunch, and define the stripes on the tail. Don't be ginger on your stripes now ;D 19:22, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 20:12, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

The scar should be shorter; it doesn't go all the way to his underarm. It's just on his flank. 20:50, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Comments? 21:24, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the shading? 00:41, Sat, Feb, 4, 2012

Possibly thicken the stripes a bit? 01:14 Sat Feb 4

Make the earpink a bit bigger too. 01:18 Sat Feb 4

Make the scar a bit thicker. 03:55, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Okay, i think the ear-pink is fine and for the stripes, they are the same thickness as the other ones. Other then that, comments? 18:27, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Can you please make the earpink a bit bigger and define it? Also move it into the ear more. 19:13 Sun Feb 5

Blur the shading too. 23:34 Sun Feb 5

The stripes may be the same thickness as his kit charart, but this isn't a kit. As he grew, his stripes naturally grew as well to be proportional to his body size. On that note, the apprentice charart should be tweaked as well. 04:19, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. The shading looks... odd, i'm trying to fix that, don't worry. 21:16, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

That's because it's dark. Lighten it, pleeease. :P 21:20, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Stupid shading Why must it be so irritating? Comments? 21:51, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the chest shading a little more. And where is the light source? I can't find one. 22:46, February 6, 2012 (UTC) Shadewing

Re-uploaded. 00:39, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten or blur the shading, and define the earpink. Sky Fus Roh Dah  09:58, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Define the stripes and change the color of the scar to something a bit more different from the stripes, I almost told you to get rid of the extra ginger stripe on the flank. XD 15:39, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. 19:32, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Define the stripes some more. 22:50, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

... Okay, I'm sorry, but this just doesn't feel like Brackenfur. Can we do an overhaul on the image and make it a redo?-- 23:55, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Marshstar (L) ~ Tweaked
The OA was some user named *Wildfire* :P shading needed to be tweaked. 16:45, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah, whoever is that user. XP Naw. This looks nice. Could you perhaps darken the shading a tad? But, if it's fine, that's alright. ;) 16:50, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 22:24, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the earpink some more. Nice.05:22, Wed, Feb, 8, 2012

Still working on this, Wild? 17:46, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yes -- 01:32, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Can you define the eye depth please? 09:07, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 17:35, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Dustpelt (W) - Redone
Original artist was Bramble, with an eye tweak from Nightshine, a redo from Cloudskye, and a small eye depth tweak from Icestorm that was reverted. Comments? 20:55, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

LOL. My horrible stripes have finally been redone! Thank you, Moon. This looks much better. Define the ear pink a tad. 20:57, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded No problem. 21:01, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

This looks awesome O8 blur or smudge the paler belly 22:55, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Define the lighter part of the tail. Sky To kill an Empire... 23:05, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded 23:47, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Could you make his stripes a tad bigger? He looks a bit mottled. 11:51, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

He doesn't look mottled to me. 17:55, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

He looks oddly flat. Define the shading and highlights, and maybe darken/intensify them. Breeze whisker  00:46, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'll get rid of the waste at the next reupload. 02:39, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

...or get rid of it now? What's the point in reuploading it when it's not completely finished? 02:47 Fri Feb 10

...then just critique it, I'll be reuploading it? 02:54, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Well that's the thing. It's perfect as it is. The only issue is the waste. So... 03:02 Fri Feb 10

I'll comment if you want. Define the earpink on the cat's right side (on the left ear, right side of the earpink). Feel free to disagree. 05:21, Fri, Feb, 10, 2012

Reuploaded 18:07, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading on all ze legs and possibly make him a little less red. Sky To Kill An Empire  00:05, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Dawnpelt (W) ~ Tweaked
Highlights needed to be blurred, but I re-did the shading. OA was Mousetalon with a redo by Oblivion and tweaks by Paleh, Scarlet and Icestorm. 21:53, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Waste inbetween the legs, m'dear, Fire. 21:55, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

XD That always happens. Re-Uploaded. 21:56, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Define the shading. 01:55 Sat Feb 11

Re-Uploaded. 15:03, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

She's getting a bit gray from the shading. Could you saturate her more? 16:24, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Mossheart (SC) (MC) ~ Redone
OAs were Echomist and Scarletwind. The shading needed to be redone and the highlights were too bright. Since the patten was difficult it was labled as redo. To you two, I am sorry for ruining this D: 22:01, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Erase the waste by the tail, and the smudges aren't following the direction the fur should go. 22:29, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  22:52, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Fixed heading :D. Make the earpink bigger and blur it. 23:04 Fri Feb 10

Hmm...I know the original file is named this, but, you should rename is File:Mossheart (SC).mc.png because of the charart template and it's the proper page name. This looks lovely, Silver. 23:11, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded  00:24, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Still named improperly. :P File:Mossheart (SC).png :P 03:03, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Can you make her short-furred? It says that she didn't envy Quailfeather(?)'s thick,long fur, suggesting she has short fur. Maple♥ legs  Mischief brewing 03:32, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Twi, I can't put parentheses around the file name, my computer is a butthead and won't allow it. Maple, I'm going to wait for a second opinion on that. She could be envy of Quailfeather and still have long haired. 12:35, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Would you like me to rename it after it's approved? This needs to conform with the naming policy for images. Also, I think she should be shorthaired as well; what Maple said makes sense. 02:27, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

That would be great, thanks oblivion ^^. I'll get to editing soon for this. 17:03, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry about her chest, that's how the smudging came out... 21:30, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Define the earpink and tail shading. Sky To Kill An Empire  23:55, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Minty (Q) - Tweaked
I tweaked the color shade to make it darker. Original Artist is Mumble I think, with a minor tweak by Ivy and a tweak/redo by Paleh. What do you think? <span style="">23:12, Fri, Feb, 10, 2012

Purdy <3 Lighten the shading a tad. 23:12, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Looks great and all, but why'd it need to be darkened? She looked dark gray before, and she's not meant to be black.... 04:30, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Because the rogue and loner images didn't match. I added it to the tweak list. Check 'em out yourself. 04:37, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

EDIT: if anything, now it's too dark. Try taking the dodge tool over it once at about...20 %. 04:38, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded -  Mmm... Not sure about this one. <span style="">05:43, Mon, Feb, 13, 2012

I'm only gonna comment and say that the color matches now. Much better, DJ. 05:51, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Smallear (W) - Tweaked
Ah, tweaking. =D Anyway, it was on the list for shading, so, I just layered some shading overtop of the image, not major or anything. Okay, I think the OA was Snowfeather1 with some help along the way from Night shine. Comments? 02:52, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Tone down the highlights and blur them 03:24, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Runningnose (MC)- Tweaked


I think I died while making him....I swear I did....Anyway, had blurred lineart shading was blotchy, needing a crusty/runny nose, and patchy fur, OC was Dawnfeather, With a Tweak from Ivyheart. Maple♥ legs  Mischief brewing 03:45, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Can you add a missing patch of fur on his shoulder? And blur the earpink a little. 16:31, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'd rather not, I tried to copy the patchy fur from his elder... Maple♥ legs  Mischief brewing 00:44, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

But, the linearts are facing opposite directions, Maple. Give it a shot and see what it looks like. 05:49, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Snowtuft (W) - Tweaked
OA was Insaneular with a redo by Mintstarr. The scar needed to be more realistic. I tried something new with this, tell me if it works or not :P 04:04, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Make the scar a bit paler; it looks a bit too bright/maybe redden it 04:47, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded is this any better? I also feel the shading on this could be tweaked, permission to redo that? 05:22, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yes please. 15:18, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Reuploaded Welp, as of now, the only thing from the old image is the color. I put the scar under the shading, is it too dark? 17:20, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Briarlight (W) ~ Redone
Yes, I did ask before re-doing an image such as this. Now, I took the color from the alt, not the normal apprentice. I like the shade of brown used. OA was Fawnstorm, and the brown didn't match any of her images, the highlights needed dulled and the shading defined. Just throwing tons of chararts out recently...xD 06:34, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Darken the haunch and rump shading. 09:08, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, rump. x3 Brighten the haunch lightness a tad. <font face="Arial" size="1" color="Red" >Sky To Kill An Empire 18:07, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded for Stone's request. I'll do yours in a sec, Trolly. 18:16, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded for Trolly. 18:20, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Make her forelegs a bit thinner. They're kinda chubby right now c: 06:00, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Umm.... I have no clue how to tweak the lineart. I'll end up killing it or something. XDDD 06:01, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

I see waste from her belly and lower back. It ends in the same place. 21:31, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Silver, you're seeing things. There is no waste. I've already checked it multiple times. 21:37, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not seeing things. There is waste. 21:43, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

I don't see it either O_o It could be your computer or something. 02:44, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

No, there's not. When I tilt my laptop screen, I'd be able to see even the slightest bit of waste. There's nothing there. 02:45, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/warriors/images/archive/4/44/20120213051407!Ivystripe.png Here's what I've deduced the front leg should look like based on various images I've observed. I also think the black line seperating her rump from her tail should be removed because 1) I think it would look better and 2) her rump right now appears to be too far back and that way it would create the necessary spinal alignment without changing anything besides taking out that line, if I made any sense :P 05:16, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

I see the waste as well o.O  Elork   05:51, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

There is no waste on the image at the top of the section. Trust me. I make my chararts in a way where there can't possibly be any waste. As for the redline, yes, there IS waste. XDDDDDDDDDDDD 05:53, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I want the overall opinion on the shape of it. I don't care if there's waste or if the shading needs blurring, as I'll get to that once I get the physical aspect of it done and over with.

I removed the line as Ivy suggested, but I also played around with the lineart, going along the same basic style for the redline Ivy gave me. I don't think it's that bad...but that's just me. Great StarClan, I am NEVER tweaking lineart again. 07:36, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe make the leg a tad thicker; and maybe make it go up farther to connect with the shoulder? Also blur the shading/shot.

I don't see the waste anymore....I swear there was some last night when I checked. xD. Elork  14:18, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, Cloudy, I'd say change the line you've got around her shoulder back to how it was before. In the position she's in, a lot of weight would be on her shoulders and they'd be forward, and as it is right now it looks a bit like the old apprentice charart legs (no offense). I say just go with the outline Elo did. 14:31, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Shrewpaw (A) ~ Tweaked
Paleclaw informed me that this needed some tweaking. I'm the OA of the previous version of the image. It needed to be dark brown and have the shading tweaked. Comments? 15:13, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Can you define the shading a tad. 21:32, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

And tone down the nose colour. 22:16, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

And the earpink. And what I meant when I said the shading needed tweaking, was that there's two light sources right now, one above him (shown on his back) and one below him (shown on his chest). Could you fix that? 15:08, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sedgewhisker (A) - Redone
Got permission from Mounty to redo her to match her warrior. OA was Goldenpaw and then redone by Mounty with the new lineart. Comments? 02:18, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Enlarge the "highlight" on the flank. Lovely as always, Scarlet. 06:50, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

There's waste by/on the tail. 21:45, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Brook (W) - Redone
OA was Shimmerpool with a tweak by Stoneclaw. She needed to match her prey hunter. I rather like this one :D Comments? 05:17, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and define the lighter part of the tail. :3 <font face="Arial" size="1" color="Red" >Sky To Kill An Empire 05:42, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Loonie, can you define the ear pink a tad? 05:45, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. -eye twitch- 05:47, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Add more stripes or connect some more, and define the depth in the eye. Lovely! 06:49, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

The stripes match her prey hunter x3 02:40, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Pad (Ki) ~ Redone
Now, before you go whining about it being redone, look at the other file. Did you actually expect this to be tweaked with all it's issues? OA is GB. Iceheart doesn't count as a tweaker, since all she did was change the nose color. 18:40, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Make the earpink paler and blur the shading on the left side of the chest. ^^ <font face="Arial" size="1" color="Red" >Sky To Kill An Empire  07:09, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ear pink on kits is a pain. 07:45, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yellowfang (Alt MC) - Redone
*notices waste and goes to fix, didn't notice that before* Ok, OA was xxdovesongxx (aka Mossy) and the snout needed to be shorter, she needed more scars, she needed shaggy fur, yellow eyes, and the shading needed redone because we decided fuzzy shading is inappropriate for her. Aside from ear waste, anything else need fixed? 05:49, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Should the shaggy pattern match her normal MC? 06:04, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

The shaggy fur matches the rogue, so I think it's fine. 14:39, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Brokenstar (Alt. Ro) ~ Redone
Oh man! I've been meaning to do this forever XD It was on the redo list. OA was Oblivian with a ear tweak by Atelda. Comments? 05:54, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Lighten the neck shading a tad...................my opinion on this image has been said in the chat room.........*steals* 05:56, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Gaaaww C: Thank you Cloudy <33 Go ahead and steal him I hate brokenstar XDD 06:02, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Blur the tail shading a little. *Yamato stare* <font face="Arial" size="1" color="Red" >Sky To Kill An Empire 07:11, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Meep O.O 14:48, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Brokenstar (Ki) ~ Redone
Oi, I must really like Brokenstar O.O Anyway Paleh asked me to do this. OA was Willowheart. He looks so creepy XP Comments? 05:58, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

I just realized Stonetooth was still up o3o *someone took it off my reservations* Someone can decline this XDDD 06:05, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Nope. You ish fine. That was my error. XD 06:07, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

I think having the tail jut out instead of in would convey the break better, but that's just my opinion. 14:28, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

If I did that, you might not be able to tell it apart from a break and a stump. Just by the position of the tail, I don't think I should make it bent the opposite direction. If I did that, it would make it look awkward and kinda unnatural. 14:37, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Foxleap (Alt. W) - Redone
Finally I can redo him. Ugh, he was probably my least favorite of all my tabbies I've done. Anyways, he needed to be redone cause he was a triangle tabby, needed to be longhaired, and was more light brown than tawny. I got the color from Birchfall's tawny alt, so don't say anything about the color not being right. Not sure who the OA was..... ;D *pokes self* Comments? 10:55, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Brokenstar (D) - Redone
I'm getting sick of his images.... x.x He needed to match his other images. OA was Insane with a tweak by Moonflight. Everything but the tail is from the warrior, so don't comment on that. 10:55, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Clovertail (Alt.Q) ~ Tweaked
That was too difficult to have been a tweak, but I'll call it that anyway. @.@ This alt happened when she was not pregnant or nursing, just staying in the nursery as a perma-queen. (ffff, hate perma-queens) Anyway, transferred Squirrelflight's lineart to this, minus the messed up ear and bushy tail. Comments? 15:11, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

It seems like the tip of her front paw farthest from us is cut off. And my comments on Squirrel's image apply here. 15:22, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Please see my counter-comments on Squirrel's image for why I'm not doing the second half of your request. 15:34, February 13, 2012 (UTC)