Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Archive 89

Ivypool- Rogue rank?
I was wondering if Ivypool would get a rouge image, since she formally joined the DF warriors as a warrior. *shrugs* Just a thought. 12:53, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think she would get a rogue image because she's not actually dead. 12:55 Thu Feb 19

??? Who said rogues have to be dead?? Breezepelt got one for joining the DF 12:56, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Breezepelt got one for fighting on the side of the Dark Forest during The Last Hope. The same can be said for Redwillow, whom Blackstar killed for that reason. Antpelt got one for winding up there after he died. None of these cats got rogue images for being a full-fledged living member of the Dark Forest. Since Ivypool and many of the other trainees rejoined the side of the Clans after the realization of what was going on, the don't get rogue images.

Agreed that only the ones that fought with the Dark Forest should get a rogue image. While the rogues don't have to be dead, they should be counted as rogues if they have fought with the Dark Forest instead of against, unlike the other cats who fought.

I don't know I mean Ivypool was really influential in the Dark Forest, getting to the point where she was allowed to train apprentices and such. She was considered a 'warrior' there as well. I mean whether or not that's where her heart lies doesn't really change the fact that she was pretty much considered one of them. 3:30 Mon Feb 23 2015

 00:04, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

No, I don't think she should get a rogue image. Ivy isn't truly loyal to the DF, so I doubt she'd count herself a rogue or be one. 01:08, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, if you read through the first few books of OOTS, Ivypool (Ivypaw) was loyal to them at first... Idk I need to start re-reading OOTS 00:18, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Does it really matter if she counts herself as one? After all, she joined them, and was one of them whether or not she didn't count herself as one. 00:24, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Well, I don't know what it matters whether she was there genuinely or as a spy. She was made a warrior in their ranks. They accepted her totally as one of them. That, to me, says she was one of them, even if she was truly there to spy. Let's look at it this way. If a rogue joined ThunderClan, went through training as an apprentice, became a full warrior with a warrior name, then turned on ThunderClan and revealed he had been planning to betray them the whole time for another group - would we still give him a warrior charart? Jayie Unwritten words~ 00:29, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

If that's the case, then shouldn't we give all Dark Forest cats rogue blanks, including the apprentices that trained? They were clearly accepted in the Dark Forest. Sorry, I still fail to see what qualifies her for a rogue image, especially since I think she became a "full DF warrior" after she already saw through the Dark Forest- It was an infiltration thing and she'd already saw through the Dark Forest's plans.

I'm pretty sure what they see themselves as counts like isnt the only reason squirrelfight and the other cats who went on that journey don't have loner blanks is because they still saw themselves as clan cats? even though the clans assumed they left. seems like the same kinda case here, and I don't think she should get one. she never intended to betray thunderclan, especially after she realised what they were up to. :| 03:20, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Then... I think Applefur and stuff should. Because they never realized what was going on until the battle started. shrugs 01:06, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly, unless they were seen fighting against the clans and on the side of the Dark Forest they should not get a rogue image because it never showed they ever fought on the side of the Dark Forest in the first place. It doesn't count as a verified cite, so I don't think they should get rogue images for those reasons. 21:49 Sat Mar 7

Request to Join
Can I please join the project charart? I can help out a lot *please please*  11:57, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Sure, I'll add you in. Welcome to the Project Charart! 13:56, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Russetfur alt
I think Russetfur should get a tawny colored alt as a loner instead of having a kittypet alt because in Tallstar's revenge the book clearly stated that the cats weren't kittypets when she was called a tawny-furred cat. 01:09, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

If shes clearly shown as not being a kittypet at the time, then i dont see why not. 21:07, March 9, 2015 (UTC)

I thinks he gets both alts if she was mentioned as both. 05:40, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Prepare for Reservation
Where do we reserve for making a charart? This might be dumb but I'm new... I want to do Dawnflower's StarClan if Shy Fawn ancient gets approved. I know I can only do one at a time so I'm just asking before the case, I won't move until Shy Fawn ancient gets approved/declined. 01:35, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Dawnflower has no citation for being in StarClan, so she doesn't get an image. Regardless, you'd reserve after Shy Fawn gets approved and added to her page.

The reservation chart is on the front page. You have to edit the source code to include your name the first time. Put it in alphabetically, and then add what cat you're doing. (Make sure nobody has it reserved, though.) In the last column, put what date it is. presto it's reserved 12:50 Fri Mar 6

Flamepelt alt
Flamepelt was called orange in TR page 460. Since he's dark ginger and Sandstorm got an orange alt for being pale ginger, I think he should get it. 04:52, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

No need to announce it to the world tbh. Just add it to his trivia and the characters needing art page. 05:05, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Crowfeather alt
Does Crowfeather get an alt for being mentioned black twice? 06:38, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

He's pretty much black, I'm pretty sure that's a partial. 06:43, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, then. I was just wondering. 06:52, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think it's a partial, actually. It's not more than two shades off, however, so he wouldn't. 03:35 Tue Mar 10

New e-book
Heh, reaaaaallly dumb question; since the Allegiances for MV are out (and there are some character descriptions there) are the members of PCA allowed to start reserving chararts? Or do we wait until the book is out/citations are found for the cats? Thanks  heh sorry for the dumb question lel   21:59, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

We have to wait until the book is released in order to reserve chararts.

Alright thanks :3 22:04, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Tribe of Endless Hunting blank?
Just asking, is there a blank for ToEH needed? 04:13, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

The project has discussed this numerous times before, and im pretty sure it was agreed that it was unneeded due to only knowing a select few cats that have confirmed descriptions, along with not knowing if those cats kept their original ranks once joining the ToEH. 06:52, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Oh okay. I didn't know that before since I'm quite new to here :P 09:53, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Nah, it's fine. I was just the same =P 09:54, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Stepping down, at least temporarily
I really hate to do this, because it feels like I'm abandoning you and I've been very proud of my position as a senior warrior here. But see, as a human being, I have a life. And my life takes priority over pretty cat arts. And right now, schoolwork and deadlines and things have all been piling up on me, and everything's just so stressful and I hardly have time for anything right now. I've been barely active for a while now, so I may as well step down.

I'll probably come back after real life stops being such a b****, and I'll definitely jump into chat every now and again, but for now, I'm leaving the wiki. Again. 00:39, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Aww, Shinx, we'll miss you. =( I hope everything goes well in your life. Be sure to come back soon =P! I'll put you down in the warriors section. (is that what you wanted?) 00:43, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I wanted. Thanks. 00:48, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

It's sad to see someone being inactive again :((((( I know I haven't been really close to you Shinxy but... yea. Good luck and come back asap! 01:03, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a ton for your guidance and dedication to the project. I hope all turns out well in your life. Best wishes, 01:17, March 13, 2015 (UTC).

Thank you for everything you've done for the project Shinx. I hope to see you regain your position once life settles down. =) 20:46, March 16, 2015 (UTC)