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Russetfur (W) - Redone
Meh, Froon convinced me to get off my lazy butt and do a charart :] This charart was originally supposed to be tweaked, but I was having issues with the shading, so I just redid it :P 02:50, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink a bit more ;3 First Foxleap, and now Russetfur... We think alike cuz' ;D 03:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Change the file name to Russetfur.warrior.png so it replaces the old one. 03:21, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Meh, the changes aren't showing xP Oh, and I can't make it a .png because my computer won't let me upload it if it's a .png. 03:58, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

And FYI, the changes don't show when I first put the picture there for me too, but they appear after you publish it. Odd. Lol. 04:19, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I think you're meant to say who did the charart before it was tweaked? I believe it was Dawnleaf :D. This is really pretty. Lighten the earpink though and there is a garbage around the top of the tail, a brown pixel I think :3 This is good Nighty! ♔Sunspirit♔Back in... uh, yellow? 08:07, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Earpink looks really blotchy; I'll fix it in the next upload. 23:44, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

You should continue the stripes into the face, so it looks more natural instead of just the body and tail. 13:51, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

I honestly think that this looks amazing with or without stripes in the face. ;) But I think the ear pink could be blurred a little more; it seems to straight on the bottom edge to me. 21:26, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tail shading a bit. 16:45, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe try to lighten the ear pink just a bit? With her pelt color it is hard to see it. But other than that, the pelt, stripes, shading and blurring looks amazing!Fallenstars 04:29, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

If you can, could you make her a little more ginger, she looks brown to me. Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:43, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

It looks close to the color it was before, I THINK it should stay the color it is, I may be wrong however. And there is a pixel outside her tail, get rid of that, this is a very lovely image. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:57, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Darken it to match her deputy image, and I can barely see the earpink, though defining it wouldn't be the answer, 'couse it's already sharp-edged. And who said she has stripes?- Kittycat79 Kitties Rule! 06:29, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

@Kittycat - She was never revealed to have stripes, but it isn't possible for a ginger cat not to have them. So basically we're tweaking all ginger cats to have stripes. 17:54, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Nightflower left the wiki (says on her profile), so someone can take over this. 14:59, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Vinestar (L) ~ Redone


Original artist was Honeyfur, and I redid the shading, and ended up redoing the whole thing. 18:36, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

And changes aren't showing. 18:38, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Would it be possible to elongate the tail to match the description? (And personally I think the same should be done with Tallstar, as that's kind of what he's named for) 23:54, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot. Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:59, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I reverted the image to the newer image, Misty. Mintstar, I don't think the shading needs to be blurred as you were looking at the old one. Add shading at the end of the tail (make it longer like Shellheart said) and add depth to the eyes. (darker and lighter pixels) 17:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Icy! I redid the whole tail, and made it a bit longer. Please don't make me make it any longer. I fail at lineart. D: 18:00, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

It looks good! Blur the shading, yes, because it looks blotchy. Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 02:42, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. I can't blur it any more.. 16:42, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the earpink more on his left (our left) ear; it looks flat. 22:51, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help with blurring the shading, but anyways, I would darken the shading a bit underneath his neck and near the top of the haunch. Nice work! 01:27, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

A few stray pixels above his ears, get rid of those. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:58, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded. 14:46, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Petalnose (Q) - Tweaked
- Re-did did shading and brightened highlights. I tried a new way of doing shading, and I like it x3. Please don't tell me to blur the shoulder highlight. It can't be blurred anymore. 23:29, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

It's a bit dark compared to her other images. 23:56, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. Nice! Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

That's because of the shading + highlights. Er, Re-Uploaded xD 00:38, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste around the charart around her haunch area. Make the earpink bigger. 01:04, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see the waste on GIMP 02:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I can see it, want me to circil it for you? If not, It is under her foot, under her belly, near her foot, and above her back. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

OH I know why it isnt showing you, because, it is so pale, it looks like it isn't there, but if you lean in close, you can see it, it is there, but just BARLEY there. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:48, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

It is not there at all on GIMP. I can't fix it if I can't see it. 21:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

When I had a hard time seeing the waste on my Ivypool image, I put a colored background behind her as a new layer, maybe that could help you see it? Because I could never see it when people told me until I did that 22:00, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Where's the light source? I can't really tell... and darken the tail shading. 19:02, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

There's some shading waste above and below her back leg. 20:34, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I darkened the tail shading. Shellheart, I can't remove it because no matter how close I look in GIMP, it's not there. 13:56, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I can remove it for you, want me to? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:08, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Icestorm shall be gone until August 25th, so please don't decline this due to lack of work ;3 00:41, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I know it isn't your problem, but can you define the earpink? 16:59, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Longtail (Alt. W) - Tweaked
The original artist was Feathermoon. I just made him gray. 03:19, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Lovely! Darken the shading a tad and add/darken the shading under the chin. ♌The Star that cannot Return  to the Heavens ♌ 03:22, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 03:27, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I can see a bit of waste around the head and neck. Please erase it that this'll be pretty much ready. ♌The Star that cannot Return  to the Heavens ♌ 03:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Yay. :) 03:47, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't it just be his default warrior image, since we went with the silver description only with his elder charart? 12:43, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste all around. But the image looks good! @Shellheart, Longtail's alt. warrior is for the period of time when he was not an elder, but he had been attacked by the rabbit and had scars. Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:26, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

He was attacked in FQ, there is a slighty waste under his forepaw closest to us, and und his haunch, and darken the shading a tad, I can't see it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 15:55, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hehe. One of Feathermoon's chararts. xD Anyways, good job Rainy. I know you're not required to do this, but...umm... Can you thicken the lineart by the nick in his ear? It seems too thin. 18:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Other than that, it looks good. 19:00, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The waste isn't showing on my comp... Can you specify where I missed it? 04:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

There's some between the ears, along the spine, and on the underside of the tail. Maybe go into the shading layer and fill the background with a color to see if the waste shows up. That's what I do with Photoshop. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:12, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I won't be able to re-upload this until I get back next week. Did we decide on how long TW was being extended? 13:16, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think it was said till the end of the month, not sure. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:23, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

There is a LOT of waste by the way, all the way around his cahrart, color the background, to see it. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:25, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I use the layers too, that way you can easily see and erase the waste. There's some on the back. 17:19, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Graystripe (D) Tweaked
The entire image needed tweaking. So I re-did the stripe, darkened the highlights, fixed up the ear pink, and played with the shading. I also added depth in the eye. Comments? 16:04, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on his leg needs blurred, also the bottom of his haunch. 17:02, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the highlights, make the stripe thicker, and blur it. Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 17:36, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. 18:50, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

It says his left ear is torn, so tear that. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 17:54, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Tore his left ear, blurred the haunch shading, toned down the highlights, and tweaked the stripe. Comments? (By the way, on August 14th, if this isn't approved, I won't be able to work on this or any other of my images, considering that I'll be gone. Anyone can take over) 18:04, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

There is some waste near his ear and back. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:09, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Removed. 20:41, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Either lighten the shading a bit or darken the highlights. And I can't really see the stripe through all the shading, so maybe darken that too? Also, blur the shading a tad. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 20:57, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Im pretty sure that you tore the right ear,. not the left.Bluestar11796 22:28, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The shading is too dark, if you make the stripe much darker, it'll be pure black. Make it more like his warrior image and I think it'll be good :3 23:09, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Are the changes showing? If they are, there is still a pixel by his ear. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:21, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: I lightened the shading. 13:51, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. :3 15:53, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the changes are showing, but Frostheart, I can't anymore. It's blurred to maximum. 15:55, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The stripe blends into the shading, define it. Vega; Beauty is absoulute.  22:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you're supposed to tear the ear on HIS left, not our left. 18:00, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I think the stripe could be a little darker, like his warrior image. I might be mistaken, though, because his warrior image has a little lighter shading. 19:37, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripe and thicken it. 18:05, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Rippleclaw (W)~ Redone
Original artist was Ashshadow, and honestly i always wanted to redo this image. Comments? 19:19, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlight on the tail and darken the shading on the forelegs and under the chin. I love the stripes! <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:17, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

And enlarge the earpink a little, too.

Oops, forgot to sign. 20:55, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice! If you're gonna put dots on him, make them more visible, otherwise he looks almost mottled or flecked. 21:04, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I thought we weren't supposed to re-do images that weren't on the re-done list? 22:27, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

idk, but we might as well keep it like this, since this looks amazing! I love the stripes. :D Define the earpink and Lighten the highlghts on the tail. 18:34, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

No offense to Ashshadow, but this one looks much better. The only thing I can think of to fix is to do what Ivystripe said and make the dots more visible. 22:35, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well, whether or not he was on the list is kinda irrelevant, his image needed redone badly. The shading was really off 00:21, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- Is it really fair if im the only one you make sure follows the rule Icestorm? 19:21, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Beatiful! but you need to darken the shading ever so slightly. Then it would be perfect 20:10, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink a little more visible. 21:41, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Isn't he supposed to be a black and silver tabby, not a silver tabby with black stripes? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:57, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

It could be etiher way Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 16:47, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- His description only says silver and black tom, so i think im free to do anything with those colours. 19:50, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the top of the tail a bit, and looks great! 18:30, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Pod (Lo)~ Tweaked
Original artist was Bramble, and it needed its shading tweaked. Comments? 19:42, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Changes arent showing. 19:43, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think they're showing now, I can see a definite difference. Add some more shading on the underside of the tail, I looks kinda funny how it just stops half way though. Turn the scar on his muzzle a darker gray, it kinda looked like he's blushing. Nice work! <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 20:15, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Its awesome! Blur the tail shading a bit. 18:36, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded- 19:23, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading connecting the legs to the back, if that makes sense. xD 00:28, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Do what Frosheart says, and Ashshadow also worked on it, Bramble just made the background transparent. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:02, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- 19:49, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Amberclaw (W) - Tweaked
Hate this. I burned in stripes, and the original artist was Riverpelt. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 02:46, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are harder to see on the legs- define them please :) 02:48, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- darkened the shading, brightened the highlights, and redid the stripes. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:35, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

He's too bright, maybe desaturate him a little. 18:31, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading between the haunch and the front paw. 18:40, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:56, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights alot, they are far to bright. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:20, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 15:49, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the haunch highlight, please. Still too bright. 01:14, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded- please don't make me dull the highlights down too much. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:56, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I preferably think that the highlights are fine. Anyways, I would taper the stripes a little. As in just use the smudge tool and carefully use it to make the stripes a bit....pointier....at the end. 15:38, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 19:21, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading, it looks blotchy. 18:37, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Quickpaw (A) - Redone
Original artist was Icethroat21, and I redid the shading and redid it as a tabby. I know this is over the page limit, but Mousefang (W) and Lionblaze (K) both should be archived. 19:02, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

There is blurred lineart. :3 00:25, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

The blurred linart is on the on right leg, the start of the haunch, and the chest. If anyone can point out more spots, then do so. 19:18, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'll fix the whole lineart. Re-Uploaded. 14:47, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Pinestar (L) - Redone
Original artist was Sandwich989, and was redone to match his kittypet version. Comments? 19:26, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

His hind foot and some of the digits (toes) look a different color than the rest of him, as well as the part of the belly that is seperated by a line. 22:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the highlights and blur the shading. 23:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

There is a line coming out of the bottom of his haunch. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:07, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading under the chin, on the haunch (thicken it too) and darken the shading on his lower chest and belly. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 18:15, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

There's are loose specks over both of his ears. 20:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Why does this look a tad darker then his kittypet version? Is it the shading? 01:11, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

No, she didn't add highlights to this. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:55, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I know she didn't add highlights. Those and shading are two different things. It just seems darker, and I want to know if it's possible she can lighten up the image a tad. 21:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I think the right eye is noticeably darker than the left eye. 02:32, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I'll lighten it. Re-Uploaded. 14:49, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

There should be shading the space in between its two paws. :3 And the other areas that are tucked away. xD 15:24, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Changes aren't showing right now. Re-Uploaded. 16:44, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Flametail (A) ~ Tweaked
Well, here he is. Mind you, it's hard to replicate what you have a rough time seeing. xD Original artist is Snowfeather, and it was then tweaked by Insane (who made it longhaired). 00:16, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the stripes on his neck don't match his MCA. 00:20, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

* sighs* You have NO idea how annoying this is. Re-uploaded. 01:19, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can you try making the stripes more visible? :3 02:18, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

If I make them any more visible, they're going to look out of place. I can try, I guess. 02:21, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Looks bad, I know. 02:25, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes where the shading is. Maybe take your burn tool and run over the layer with the stripes to darken them? Desaturate the ear-pink as well, please. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 18:21, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ear pink = not my problem (for the umpteen-millionth time). I've never used the burn tool, but I can give it a shot. 19:28, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better? I didn't use the burn tool, but I have other methods. XD 19:42, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Can you add one more stripe on the face? <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  22:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

No. I have to copy what's on the MCA image. 22:52, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Did you draw the stripes over the shading and highlights? Define the stripes on the tail. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:54, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the 2 face stripes. 17:00, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 16:25, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hazeltail (K) - Redone
She needed to be redone as a long-haired and the original artist was FirePelt. 14:44, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Try reuploading over the old one. The new changes aren't even showing in the history, sadly. 18:26, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

They still aren't showing, but you can see it on the second file in her file history. xP

Blue the patches a touch. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 20:16, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Changes still aren't showing. 20:29, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

The patch on her face on the left (her right) needs to come down a tad to match her apprentice. 21:14, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

There is waste all around. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:52, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 14:08, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, define the earpink, and there's still waste near the right ear. 16:27, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes might not be showing for some of you. xP 18:16, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I can see it; it does n't have waste now. :D The right earpink looks a bit blotchy; smoothen it out. 18:47, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Adderfang (D)- Tweaked


Orginal artist was Honeyfur, I just made him mottled, comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:55, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Define the tabby stripes. Make the earpink bigger 02:00, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make the shading a little more visible too. 02:02, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

 Reuploaded - I think I killed the image Dx Made the stripes a shade lighter, and darkeedn the shading, comments? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:17, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Changes aren't showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:18, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes are much better ^^. Except the shading still seems a little off. 02:27, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

 Repuloaded - fixed the shading, changes still not showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 02:36, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, Changes re showing now. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:45, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Straighten out the ear-pink, it looks a bit crooked xP. Blur the shading on the tail and on the chest. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:21, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I will upload it in the morning, I'm at my grandmother's and she doesn't have gimp, sadly Dx Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 03:02, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

This picture looks great and all, but it doesn't look like his warrior image anymore, which was approved like a couple weeks ago to look like the OLD deputy image. Should we keep that one then? It had spots, so it could kind of pass as mottled. No offence to Maplepool or anything, this picture is great, but should it be declined? The whole reason we tweaked the warrior was to make both his images match. Tweaking this will just bring that problem back. Just my opinion. ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 06:18, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

he was needed to be mottled, but could we maybe tweak his warrior image agian? If not, if anyone else has a promblem with this image, I will take it down, but anyway  Reuploaded - fixed the ear-pink, anything else? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:43, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so I asked Iceheart, and she said to tweak the warrior image again Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 21:48, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then, sounds good. ^^ I might just reserve that if nobody else has...... Anyways, blur the earpink. :) ♥ Paleclaw  May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:51, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

 Reuploaded -Blurred the ear-pink, what else? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 14:41, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. 16:22, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

 Reuploaded - Blurred the shading, wat else? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:17, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks bit blotchy. Make it lighter, redder, triangularer, and blur it. 18:51, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Brightheart (A) ~ Tweaked (Redone)
Here's Brightheart's apprentice charart. I ended up redoing it to tweak the patches. Original artist was Sandy and then it was tweaked by Goldenpaw. Changes aren't showing up yet. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 02:59, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

She needs torn ears I think...all of her images except her kit image have torn ears. <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  12:37, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Do the ginger patches need stripes? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:51, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Make her long furred, it says she fluffy. I think they might need stripes, not sure. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 16:04, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think she needs stripes. It doesn't say in her description.... <font color="Aqua" face="Chalkboard" style="background:black">şŋσщđąẕẕℓε ѕeverυs ѕɴαpe.  17:28, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Since her patches are ginger, she probably needs stripes. It doesn't have to be in her description. 18:45, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

@Snowdazzle - She shouldn't have torn ears, for this isn't her alternate apprentice version, and she hadn't gotten attacked by the dog pack yet :3 22:38, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Her page doesn't have a reference for her being fluffy so I'm going to keep her short haired for now. I'll also ask a lead about her patches having stripes as well. Personally, I don't think they should, but they're easy to add. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:18, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Frosty said that I should add stripes, so I did. I still don't think that she needs them, but I'll go along with it. Changes aren't showing yet.... -.- <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 02:22, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Buzzardstar (D) - Redone
I don't like this one. ._. 15:07, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * God, I always forget original artist and blah. ._. Anyways, It was done by Morningleaf then tweaked by Ashshadow. It needed to have stripes, I think. :3 15:09, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sexy. xD blur the shading a tad. 15:13, August 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make the earpink more visable, I can't see it Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 18:45, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes need to match the leader image. 19:47, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. @Maplepool, I got the colour off his leader image, and @Iceheart: I tried copying them off his apprentice image, but it was kind of hard to make out the stripes. :3 I'll try making the stripes a bit duller ('cause I got the basic shape down and schtff...) xD 20:58, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Squirrelflight (W) - Redone
My Ravenpaw image needs to be archived, so this isn't over the limit. Changes aren't showing. Original artist was Bramble, Shimmerpool, and tweaked by Moonflight. Her color was too bright. So I made her champagne colored, which is dark red. I don't like this, I think it either needs to be blurred somewhere or her shading is a little wonky (her chin shading) 19:13, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Lightne her a tad, and brighten the highlights.(MUCH better, no offense to anyone.) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 19:18, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The pelt color or shading? I think I should lighten the shading, but just making sure what you mean :3 19:25, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The shading, her pelt color is fine. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 19:32, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded It should be the second one in the history 19:40, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

This looks too red, I think you should just make it dark ginger, which is more like a red-brown color. 19:47, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

You are looking at the right one, right? This hasn't been showing, and I just want to make sure 19:49, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Emphasize the shading a bit more, and spread out the highlights. Looks good! 20:26, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ivy, this is much better. Other from what Atelda says, I can find nothing wrong. Excellent job! 21:32, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rainy, this is a sickly red color, not dark ginger. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:16, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I went back to square one. On the one that says color test, please lok at it and see if the color looks satisfying. It's much easier to recolor my image when it's not blurred or smudged. I will take care of everything else once the color is satisfactory. 23:45, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

That one looks better, just make it a little bit more ginger. :3 00:00, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Check the color now, it should be the second one, it's a little lighter than the others surrounding it 00:44, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Personaly, I liked the one you had up before, but I geuss the 2nd one is okay, just make the stripes on it a little less brown, and a bit more red-ginger, alright? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 03:14, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I liked it too, but a few people thought I needed to change it. I'll fix that and go ahead and add shading and stuff 03:28, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I rather like the color 21:07, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the white paw. 22:22, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Can you make the tail stripes match the rest of the stripes? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:58, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

It's all based off a realistic marbled pattern. I mean, I can. 23:08, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded and tore her ear, as well, since I forgot to do that 02:26, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Jay's Wing (TB) ~ Tweaked (Redone)
...I don't think that I and gray cats mix well.... I ended up re-doing this because I could hardly pick out where the stripes even were. Took the colors from his SC charart and tried to copy the stripes... Original artist was Bluestar1776. Don't think the changes are showing up yet. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:16, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Could you define the shading more, it looks a bit flat. Nice work :D 02:28, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

There's a bit of waste coming out if his back leg. 00:34, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Again, I don't think that changes are showing. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 02:19, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Petalfur (W) - Redone
Finally nabbed a spot. Changes aren't showing though. Original artist was Icethroat, and I just had to blur the shading, but ended up redoing it. 00:27, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, it looks a bit flat, blur the shading on the chest, and blur the gray paws and white tail tip. This looks nice. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:29, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

This isn't my redone version, it's just the original version. The changes aren't showing. :P 00:33, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

The redone version is just below the current version in the file history. 00:35, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I know, that's what I was looking at. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:38, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

If I'm seeing the right one, smudge the highlights into the pelt a little 00:51, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Scarletwind: Oh xD. Ivystripe: This is the original. 00:59, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 01:05, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the paws a little more, and blur the end of the shading on the muzzle, and I think there is blured lineart on the tail. 02:24, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 15:08, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Willlowpelt (Ki) ~ Tweaked
Changes aren't showing but...shading needed to be blurred. Original artist is Icethroat. 03:27, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 22:59, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing, but darkened. 00:39, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Dappletail (W) ~ Tweaked


The Original artist was Insaneulr, I just added the white patches, changes aren't showing yet. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:39, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see it full size, even on the history, but from where you uploaded it, I can see the white patch needs to be blurred into her pelt more 15:41, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

 Reuploaded - Blurred the white patches to a max, And the changes look likt they are showing now. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 15:47, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the white paw closest to us against the fur a bit more. 00:46, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

....What? I'm sorry, I'm dislexc, and I really don't understand...explain, my brain doesn't understand...nor do I.... Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:52, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, that didn't make sense to me either xD Just smudge the white paw upwards, so it blends in a little more :3 00:56, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

okay, thanks^^  Reuploaded - Smuged the white paw, then blurred, anything else? Changes aren't showing Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 14:43, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Cedarheart (E) ~ Tweaked
I've been waiting awhile to fit this in. So I looked and saw there some spaces still left. Echomist did the regular image, I just added the graying muzzle. 17:42, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Could you dull the muzzle down a little? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 18:38, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Changes aren't showing of course. 21:21, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestar (Ki) - Tweaked
Original artist was Quietstep, and the pelt and earpink were inconsistent with the others. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 19:04, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the head (I'm looking at the redone version). 19:25, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:07, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reedwhisker (W) - Tweaked
Original artist was Spottedwing and then it was tweaked by Bramble. His shading and highlights needed fixing so I just redid them. xP Oh and the changes arent showing, of course. 20:21, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

There appears to be waste in front of his face and tail, but I don't know if I'm the only one who noticed it or not 03:39, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. ''' 14:03, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think the shading on the chest could be blurred a little more. It kind of sticks out. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 15:33, August 15, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Are you looking at the newer one in his file history? I think the shading looks fine on that one. 18:07, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Poppyfrost (Q)~ Tweaked
Original artist was Icethroat. I blurred the shading, fixed the nose colour, and when i was adding dapples i kinda ruined the patches, so i blurred/smudged them and i know it doesnt match the other images, but they're already on the to be tweaked list. Comments? 20:35, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Changes arent showing. 20:37, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the patches. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:04, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights on the tail. Shadewing  Mischief Managed... 15:30, August 15, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Brokenstar (Alt.R) ~ Tweaked
Needed torn ears, and original artist is BeautifulOblivion. Changes aren't showing. 21:11, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thicken the lines on his torn ears a little 21:19, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:22, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ruby (Ki) ~ Tweaked
Fixed shading and original artist is Bramble. Changes aren't showing. 21:11, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Brick (Ro) - Redone
Mehh, smudging's a bit messy. xD I wanted to smudge, wee. Anyways, original artist was Bramble, and it needed stripes. Wooo.. I remembered this time. xD 21:53, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Rosetail (K) ~ Tweaked


The original artist was Flamingomom3, I made her more ginger and made her tail more pinkish-ginger, I took all colors from her Apperentice image, Changes aren't showing. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 22:11, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Bllur the chest highlight. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:02, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

 Reuploaded - Blurred chest highlight, anything else? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 23:13, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

chenges still aren't showing Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 23:13, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink, and it seems you forgot the tail when recoloring O.o. Looks good. 00:23, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Nope, changes aren't showing yet. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:28, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Look at the history, should be the second one. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:29, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I did. Well, in any case, her tail looks a bit pinker than the rest of her, and add stripes to the tail too. 00:35, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I took all colors for her Apperentice image, And her apperentice image and warrior image doesn't have stripes on the tail, I have to make the kit image match the other images. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 01:02, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

This looks a bit too pink. 18:52, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Rowanclaw (D) - Redone
Original artist was Nightshine, and it needed to be dark ginger, not brown. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:02, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

This doesnt need to be redone. Just colourized. 23:15, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't know how to, Iceheart, that's why I redid it. But I fixed it. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:56, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Needs to be reuploaded over the old deputy image as Rowanclaw.deputy.png, no space. 00:30, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Changes aren't showing. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:14, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice, but I think he needs to be a bit more dark ginger. He looks a bit too gold. <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 15:33, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I thought dark ginger would be something like Redstar's picture... 18:31, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestar (Q) - Tweaked
Original artist was Mousetalon. Earpink needed to be consistent, and she needed darker shading. 02:58, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I've put the image into Photoshop and circled problems:

Green is where the thing that is circled with green (shading/highlights) needs to be blurred. Orange circle is lighten up shading a tad. And blue circles are where the lineart has become pale and you need to make it black again.- Kittycat79 <sup style="font-family;Arial;colour:teal">Kitties Rule! 09:01, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Add some shading to the back and tail. The shading doesn't need to be lightened. And blur the earpink. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:06, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded  15:53, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the bottom of the middle shading, darken the tail shading, and blur the earpink more. 18:28, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Cloudy Sun (E) ~ Tweaked (Redone)
Original artist was Sandy. I ended up re-doing the charart so the colors matches her SC charart. Changes aren't showing yet. Comments? <font color="#8f281a">Scarlet <font color="#9c3f32">wind <font color="#4791ca">Fairy <font color="#70aede"> Tail Mage 04:50, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. 18:23, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bouncefire (A) - Tweaked (Redone)
Original artist was Bramble and he needed stripes. I had to redo him so he would match his warrior image. 18:05, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Try uploading it again, so the changes show in the file history. 18:21, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Done. 18:23, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ashfur (SC) (E) - Redone
Original artist was Sandy, and I just had to thicken and blur the shading but ended up redoing the shading. Comments? And changes won't show. 18:06, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading a tad 18:08, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:15, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shadin on the tail and the back and the haunch...everything except the front leg needs blurring. 18:19, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, ignore that. I was looking at the wrong file. Darken the shading. 18:33, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Sasha (Ro) - Redone
Original artist was Shimmersong, and I just had to make her a darker shade of tawny (but yet again, I redid it). Comments? I dunno if changes are showing. 18:10, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice, blur the highlights. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:14, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. 18:17, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the earpink go back 18:18, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded 18:21, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Tallstar (L) - Tweaked
Original artist was both Yai-Girl and Shimmerpool. His patches needed to blend into his pelt better and his shading needed defined. I think I still need to try bleding his patches more. I had to redo it in some places. 18:48, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion Area=

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Expanding
We need to expand Tweak Week, but was it ever decided that we would expand it or end it on the 7th? <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:23, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking of adding a week... it's already past the 7th xD. We still have a ton to do. We can't finish it all... but it'll give us a little more time. Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 23:36, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

i counted the images...and i lost count...you may want to add more than a week, Darkhallows.... Maple♥  pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 23:52, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, we should expand tweak week to maybe the end of august. We still have like 20 some chararts to get through. Maybe also enlist some of the more senior apprentices for assistance? Some examples being Maplepool, Moonleaf, Ivystripe, and Leopardclaw. Because, honestly, we need more help. Thoughts? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:29, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Agreed. Maybe some more apprentices? 00:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, but we don't too many apprentices to help out. But we don't want the ones who don't get to help out hurt. I think the four we have now are fine. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:40, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking maybe we could make tweak week a permanent thing. Like how we have the section for images pending approval, and for discussion, we could have a third one for tweaking. We could continue to add images to the forum as we see needed, and it would remove people posting chararts at random, with just a torn ear added. I would also take away the time press, and personally I think that would make the chararts better. Thoughts? 01:18, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

We would have to shorten the limit of images, though. So, in the template on PCA's main page, we could have: One charart for tweaking, one for regular. 01:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

If you guys end up wanting my help, I would be willing to. Just remember, we DO have a lot of regular images to be done, so if it is decided on an extension, please be mindful of that, as there are many pages without a charart at all. I have always thought a permanent tweak section would be a good idea, though. 03:06, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know about a permenant tweaking section... but I think we need to do this more than once a year. Maybe 3 or 4 times for around 2 weeks each? Darkhallows  Enter the cave? 11:36, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think a permanent tweaking section is a good idea. However, we can't just put up any picture we see because there is just a tiny tiny thing that's a bit off. So I say we have a forum, as Iceheart said, and a lead can make sure that the image is okay for tweaking. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree as well, what Iceheart said is good idea. Like for Brook, she needs a torn ear for all of her images, she got the torn ear in....The sight i think, when Hollleaf went to get some herbs....Don't rember it all but so, for images like that, it would be added to the forum if we agrre to it? Maple♥ pool  School? Pfft. SUMMERTIME! 16:14, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

A permanent tweaking section would be good. I was thinking that we should just edit the charart without going through any process at all, like when we change the eye colour. And I would be willing to help with TW. 19:05, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should hold up on letting apprentices help. I nominate some people to be warriors, and i shortened the vote to only two days, just because of the time crunch (Sorry for the copy/paste nomination reason, i was too lazy to come up with personalized ones). If you think people should be helping with TW, nominate them. Its a bad idea to just have some apprentices allowed to participate. 19:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I disagree with having a continuous Tweak Week. Yes, we have a profuse amount of images needing tweaking right now, but what about later, when it's (say) October. By then we would have few images needing tweaking, and nomiating images would be few and far between. With the few images that would need tweaking by then, there can be prolific arguements about who reserved it. I also think that it's unfair to nomimate apprentices to warriors just because we need more warriors. It's unfair and can be demeaning to some users. However, chosing certain apprentices is pusillanimous as well. I just think that users should nomianate other users because they think that they've achived this milestone. I'm in agreement with Darkhallows that we should do tweak week more than once a year. Perhaps twice a year for a month and maybe a half. 20:24, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Atelda on this one. If we had a different section for tweaked chararts, I think that things would only get cluttered and very confusing. I think that if we had a tweaking section year round, that the project would split between those who want to do an actual charart for their warrior status and those who want to actually help the articles' chararts. (Sorry if I'm sounding offensive to anyone in anyway.) But I do agree that TW should be more than once a year, 2-3 times a year sounds good. I also think that we should enforce the 2 months to have a charart approved rule. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 21:11, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

If we're doing to do TW more times a year, should we end it now? 23:09, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Makes some sense. It'd let us get the idea of some of the senior apprentices being able to contribute in order. I think that the next one should be in six months if not sooner. My proposal would be around christmas since a lot of people would be on winter break and we might be able to work during the morning and not just in the afternoon and evening.

Also, a bit of a weird question. What happens to all the chararts that aren't approved by the end of TW? <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 23:28, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think they are saved for next TW, which is why there is a Never Done Last TW section, I think. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:35, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I think Scarletwind meant if there were some that are above not approved when it ends. If we end it soon, it should at least be after all the above ones are approved. 15:05, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I know we have a lot of images that still need tweaking, but it needs to end very soon. We have pages with no chararts. And a lot of apprentices seem to be getting impatient to start their chararts again. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 00:00, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I stand by what i said about needing a permant TW. We dont need to have it on this page if we're worried about clutter, we could make a subpage for it, and/or limit the amount of images to 5 or ten (both Kitsu's suggestions). Yes you still only get one image, so you have to choose between tweaking or creating a new one, and still only warriors can tweak. It would help during the slow months too. As for nominating the chararts to be tweaked, that might need some work, but the forums seem to be doing fine for now. We just wont close the nomination period and clear out the clutter every now and again. Thoughts? 00:01, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

it is a good idea. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 00:34, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I am still not convinced it would be good for the project. After a few weeks of that, many images would be tweaked by then, and we would have very few images needing to be tweaked and very few images being nominated for tweaking. I'm not worried about clutter, but I am worried about if this action is put in motion. I anticipate that after maybe a few days of the subpage being up, images will go through an extremely sluggish approval progress, and leads will fall behind on their duties. With a new school year coming up, more commitments in life besides this wiki, work, etc. I feel that members will get frustrated at the lack of approval for their charart. 03:25, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Atelda's right. I don't think that a permanent tweaking section would work. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 14:16, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

OKay how about not a permant one? Just until we have all the images on the list tweaked, and then we can close the subpage. Just for a test run. Then we can also continue with the Crookedstar's Promise chararts and finish all the images that need to be tweaked. 16:57, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Can I become a kit?
I have microsoft Painnt and Gimp but I dont know how to use them...

Yes, you would be able to become a kit, though you did not sign with the four ~'s, so you don't know who you are... 19:26, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hello! I've got the same question. I can't add shadings or something, but I can do cats:

I would be happy to become a kit, Fireheart002 15:32, August 14, 2011 (UTC)Fireheart002

Kit system discussion
I have moved the discussion about improving/removing the kit system to the forum and can be found here. <font color="#f7d86d">♌<font color="#475982">The Star that cannot Return <font color="#475982"> to the Heavens <font color="#f7d86d">♌ 00:23, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Welcoming Users
Hey guys. I've been seeing a lot of users welcoming new users in. I know you're just trying to be nice and all, but in the guidelines it says regular users aren't allowed to welcome new users until a lead adds them in. So just letting you all know. ;3 01:56, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Really? wow...that is...kinda dumb... (not to be offensive at all) Maple♥  pool  Mischief brewing 05:12, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

That's lame. It really is. I always welcome new users, because the leads aren't always around to notice the join requests. If someone doesn't answer a member, they get impatient. >.> From a new member's PoV, it makes the rest of the members of the project seem rude and unwelcoming. 05:13, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with you guys. That's kind of a silly rule. It should be changed IMO. I mean, what's the harm in welcoming a member a little while before a Lead adds them in? ♥ Paleclaw May StarClan be with you ♥ 07:15, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Besides, what harm can it do? They're automatically accepted anyway 15:12, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

It takes up to much space, and are discussion is always huge anyways without a bunch of people saying hi. If one person says yes just wait if a lead hasnt for like a day is fine, but the moment the request is made is just a waste of space. 20:48, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

You could limit the number of greetings like 1 or 2 maybe. Just a thought. ♥Firestar♥<font color="#33CCFF">Firestar! ♥CATS ARE AWESOME!:)♥ 23:22, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rainy and Iceheart. <span style="color:purple;font-family:Comic Sans MS;background:red;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Mint Why did I pull the trigger? 23:58, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Mintstarr and the others too. If you want to say hi, you can always welcome them on their talk page. 17:17, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Medicine Cats
I thought about it and I was wondering why don't the medicine cats like Flametail have med. cat chararts? They are medicine cats, because they have medicine cat names, so shouldn't they have medicine cat chararts. Just a thought, thanks Wild  fire <sup style="color:gray">Hazelx <sup style="color:brown">Thorn!  00:27, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

In the Clans they are considered apprentices until their mentor either dies or retires, so we do the same. Flametail died still technically an apprentice, as Littlecloud is still alive and not retired. 00:32, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Can I be an apprentince?
Can I be an apprentince? I joined in June 16:20, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah sure, wait til someone adds you. Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:43, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Joining
Hey, so my sister; User:Flowerpatch wants to join but for whatever reason, she couldn't leave a mesage to ask to join, can someone add her? Maple♥ pool  Mischief brewing 18:49, August 15, 2011 (UTC)