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Thorn (Ro) ~ For Approval
Eh. Comments?

Define the shading and add some depth to it if possible, it's lookin' a little flat at the moment. 07:48 Tue Nov 5

Add a little more texture? It's great, Silver c: 12:48 Tue Nov 5

Texture is completely optional. 13:19, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. Cute! 17:12 Tue Nov 5

Reuploaded (See hereif the changes aren't showing.) Thanks for your lovely and helpful comments ^3^

Darken, define, and add depth to the shading. 21:20, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded See here if the changes aren't showing.

There is waste under the tail. Also, define the shading on her side, in the middle around the spot of light. 18:17, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded (See here if the changes aren't showing) I changed the shading placement again n_n" Sorry. It's still similar though.

Blur the shading more. What program do you use? 22:01 Wed Nov 6

GIMP

If you use the airbrush for the shading, you may want to just go over a section once with a black shading color, that way it doesn't get over defined. Or, just make the shading have more intensity as it goes away from the lightsource. But I'd say this shading is slightly over defined.. I guess I'll show you one of my private images for an example..xD I'm addicted with Ezimba. I'm their number 1 visitor lately. Here: On that one I made it light-ish, and not too dark or else I wouldn't be able to see my texture anymore. But here's a solid: On that one, though, I may not have defined it enough..xD But, just keep in mind: The darker the cat, the darker the shading, the lighter the cat, the lighter the shading. :3 -is a very wise kitteh xD- Also, this may be the longest section I've ever written in PCA..lol 12:52, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well my method for shading is to take a super fuzzy smudge tool, make it about 30px or so, and gently smudge the edges of the shading back and forth, to make it seem a bit more blurred. As for Dark's comment about darkness and base colors, that's untrue, for the most part. Shading darkness is up to the artist, but the artist has to pull it off- you can have it as dark as you want to as long as it looks nice. 01:02, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded I took parts of methods and put them together to change the shading a bit. Now with texture! :D (I can remove it if you want, though). Changes here

There is waste all around the image. Nice! 16:02 Fri Nov 8

Extend the closest foreleg highlight down to her paw. Very nice! 14:19, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading and maybe add more depth too. :)

Could you define the unshaded parts on his legs? The back leg that's closest to us is fine, though ^^  16:26, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Just realized I've been using the wrong line art this entire time.Changes here If this is my attention span during my spare time, I'm concerned about my attention during school

Erase the waste by the flank 07:29, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I have, it's just the reupload system is messing with everyone. I have a link provided above to the real picture.

Smear pelt into the earpink. 12:30, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Make the tail texture flow with the body more. -- 18:19, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Could you please lighten the shading? Maybe add some highlights, lower the opacity of the shading, or blur it, in your condition. This is looking good so far~! -- 01:46, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I've said it before, Bright. Shading darkness is artist's choice; please don't ask someone to lighten it unless there's a very good reason.

Reuploaded I think that's how flow-y my tail can get. And I don't really use highlights. If I did, I don't think you could see the texture or natural colour well.Changes here.

I see some waste near the forepaws. 00:45, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes here.

I know it might not be my place to suggest this, but should Thorn be CBA'd? I've had her for longer than a week now and there's been no more comments...

I know this is artists choice, but can you lessen the opacity of the shading layer jusssssst a tad? It makes the texture seems to get lost on the shading. Nice work! 14:32 Sat Nov 16

Reuploaded Changes here

Add some more shading too the head; it looks a little flat compared to the rest of the image 23:06, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes here

Thin the shading a bit more 02:06, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes here

Define the shading on the tail a bit, and if you want (don't have to if you don't want to), lighten the shading a tad. 19:47, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changes here

Alder (Kit) ~ For Approval
Isn't she the cutest little thing? I know I'm not actually part of the project, so if there's anything wrong with how I reserved her (I put my name in the table and followed its format) please notify me and I will withdraw her. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 23:11, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Brighten the white a bit? Very nice! 3:09 Wed Nov 6 2013

Smooth out the shading, it looks a bit blotchy 04:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded That's as bright as the white can get, and Scarletwind, are you talking about the shading on her left front paw? There's a patch of gray there that makes it look blotchy, I can remove it if you want, though. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 13:31, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

There is a square-patch of somesort that needs to be blurred/smudged. Here: Yes, I circled it due to the fact that I can't explain for crap. Not because I'm getting up in your face. ;) It looks amazing, Ember. Keep it up! 03:55, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

That area looks fine to me, Dark???? This is actually really cute omg. Maybe define the shading in general?

No, I see what dark is getting at. You can't see it in the zoom version but its like a squareish shape cut out? I'm horrible at explaining but yeah can you smudge there? 10:03 Thu Nov 7

I still can't see what you're looking at. Maybe it's because of the eyelashes? It seems to disguise the area around it, and I still say it's fine.

Here, I zoomed out, and screwed the eyelash for a better view: Can you see the square now, Snowy? o.o 12:40, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here if changes aren't showing. That was part of her white, but it did look weird so I extended the gray. I think the shading is fine, but if more people think I should define it then I will. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 13:32, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Blue the shading on the legs, and define the neck shading - if you're using this light source. 14:22, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here if changes aren't showing Emberpoppy7 (talk) 15:46, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Lighten the shading on our left side of the image. It's darker than the rest of her body. -- 17:45, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Darkness doesn't need to be the same throughout the entire image. ^^

Can you blur the ear pink more into her pelt? -- 01:48, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here for changes if Wikia is being a butt.

Ember, it'd probably be best if you didn't use Photobucket. It's not really a private hosting site like iaza or something. To my knowledge at least, you'd be publicly uploading it on there, which isn't allowed with wwiki blanks. Best to use some other hosting site that's private such as iaza.

All right. I didn't know it was against the rules. See here for changes. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 01:48, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Smooth out the dark patches of shading on her legs and <<< chest. 23:27, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Those aren't dark patches of shading, it's because of the grey that it looks dark. Emberpoppy7 (talk) 13:30, November 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Either way, lighten them a touch and you're losing your earpink in this <-- ear 23:05, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Reups Emberpoppy7 (talk) 02:15, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

No comments for a while; CBA? 02:06, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt, but please define the shading from the patches, and vice versa, on <<<< side still. I can barely tell what are patches, and what is shading. 16:19, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here if changes aren't showing. I darkened the patches, does that help? Emberpoppy7 (talk) 21:40, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Could you also perhaps whiten the white? It's starting to look a bit gray. 21:41, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

I'll see what I can doEmberpoppy7 (talk) 21:46, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Reups Here How's that?

Leaf (Ro) ~ For Approval
Meh, I fail. Anyways, I put "For Evaluation" because this is my first charart! But as I've seen in other discussions, it can be removed when the user knows what he/she knows what they're doing. So, comments? -- 23:51, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

Can you darken the highlights a smidge? The seem shiny. Nice job! 1:56 Wed Nov 6

He needs to be black and white, if I'm not mistaken. 01:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink and give him a gray nose 04:58, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I ended up having to redo the whole image...if there is a way to make a gray and white cat black and white without redoing the image, please tell me. This took up so much of my time. *.* -- 20:28, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

The shading on the white is very gray. Also, define the unshaded parts more. Also, can you make the pattern a bit more realistic, like this maybe? I like those eyes. ;) 23:00 Wed Nov 6

Re-uploaded 'Kay, for some reason, the wiki won't let me upload this image, so I brought a link with me. Thanks Hawk for the picture, it helped. Changes are.

To be perfectly honest, the pattern was more realistic before... I think that pattern was just fine.

I think this one is more realistic, just overblurred. Maybe try smudging it instead of blurring it so much? 0:35 Thu Nov 7

Hmmm..Maybe try to aim for it to look like this? I did a quick version of what I'd do..maybe you can get some tips and pointers from this. ;) 04:18, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Dark, I do apologize, but that's not very natural either, and I'm going to agree with Paleh, that the pattern before was more realistic. Perhaps try to go back to that one if possible? I liked it. *.*

That's fine, Cloudy. It was only a 30 second job..xD 21:49, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I kind of liked the pattern before. I switched back. ouo -- 22:08, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Okay, I kind of blurred the ear pink because I thought it looked...odd. -- 22:09, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

The earpink is leaking out of the ear. Also, can you sharpen the black patches, as they seem overblurred? 1:00 Fri Nov 8

Re-uploaded I switched back to the originals, so there aren't any black patches anymore. Blurred ear pink, though. -- 01:45, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

It looks over-smudged. Sharpen the black patches, they're losing their shape definition 05:43, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

'Kay, I'm sorry to say this, but I'm going on a trip to China to see my relatives for two weeks, which means I don't get to finish this image in time. I just found out about the Internet connection there and let me say...it's not to hot. So, can someone please take over. I was so mad, but I guess fairest is fairest...-- 21:51, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

I'll take over. 01:36, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Uploaded. Bahh, I guess it's okay. ._. I thought about texturing the white for some time while making, but then decided it wouldn't look good..soo, Comment away my friends! And may they be good. c: 02:48, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't align your images. Also the pattern isn't very realistic, maybe something like this, or even this would work. Also define the shading, earpink and nosepink, I'm having a bit of trouble seeing them. -- 02:54 Sat Nov 9

Also, maybe smudging instead of blurring would work. 3:35 Sat Nov 9

Re-uploaded. This came out beautifully..I followed first suggestion-cat, Wildd. And sorry about the aligning image thing, didn't know. See changes |here if the wiki is acting up again. 13:26, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading. 20:21 Sat Nov 9

I don't really know how to put this in better words, but something about the black patches seems to be throwing me off. Maybe define them, or...I don't really know. Just saying. -- 17:32, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I can't exactly see the ear pink. Maybe darken it? -- 01:50, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

You can see the earpink just fine? o.o It's practically whacking people in the face, imo. And if I darken it, I'll have to lighten it. So, it's fine. As for the pattern, it's from an actual black-and-white cat, so I won't change it.. And, they are defined enough, and if I define them anymore, it'll make this image look slightly over-defined, and possibly pixelated. But yeah, Hawky, I'll define that shading. c: But, thanks for your comments, Brightpool, and please recognize that I'm not brushing them off, but, because what you have mentioned, are in perfect shape and form, I will not change unless someone else points it out/agrees to your comments. Hope that made sense! I re-upload tonight. 17:57, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I'm actually going to agree with Brightpool on this one. I think the black is a teeny bit too dark (and coming from me, that's saying something since I love black and white cats), and they seem a little too overblurred. The earpink could also be a little more pink-ish, imho, but not all that more. I think the pattern itself is good, however.

Re-uploaded. Thanks. I hope this fixed the problems.. 20:13, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Please leave a image-hosting link of the image. I honestly have no clue what version I'm looking at <span style="">20:20 Mon Nov 11

The black patch on the tail is gray on the bottom. -- 21:26, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops! Sorry~ And as for the gray, that's the tail shading. 22:05, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Then if that's the tail shading for the black patch, shouldn't it be darker, because gray is lighter than black...sorry if a sound like a pain in the butt, but I just noticed it right now. -- 23:34, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, you're not a pain! c; But, the reason I won't make it a darker gray, is because you may not be able to see the shading. And then, I'll have to revert it back to this current version. But, if someone else agrees with you, I'll change it. :) 00:06, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading quite a fair bit. Also, lighten the black a bit and darken the shading on the black only. Also, what's up with the tail, and why is there a lighter gray stripe on it? If that's shading, it should be darker, not lighter? I'm confused as to what's part of the pattern on the tail and what's shading and/or highlights.

Re-uploaded. I re-did parts of the image, so the black was less intense so you could see the shading. Zipped the stupid pale stripe on the tail, which originally was a stupid-attempt-at-shading-black. :P I tried to make the black not look over smudged/blurred. But hey, it never looks good to me. At least you can see the shading now, and I'd prefer not to touch it anymore. So yeah. 00:19, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

sorry for making you touch the shading ;c The shading on either sides of the belly/back (yes, that whole mid-section area) are very "streaky" (for lack of better word) and need generous expansion, blurring, and lightening (they are very dark/gray). Also, the patches are extremely blurry in some areas, and not blurred in others. If you want, hit me and email and I'll be more than happy to help you with tinting so you can not have to worry about the shading looking gray, but promice me you will use it.. .-. <span style="">03:06 Fri Nov 15

Lol, sure I promise. Hit me an email, because believe me, I could really use some tips and pointers. Black-'n'-white cats are beginning to be the death of me. xD Even though, they're one of my personal favorites. 03:42, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading some, as well? Besides what Kelps said, they could be more smoother and less blurred. 23:28, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't uploaded, my computer died. :O I'm getting a new one..Uploads will be either tonight or tomorrow. 20:53, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. c: 01:39, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

The shading on the white needs to be thickened and blurred 23:04, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Now, I'd prefer not to touch the shading anymore. I like the darkness of it right now, and don't really want to change it, as shading darkness is artists choice. Any more comments on the black-'n'-white kitteh? xD 02:52, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, the shading on both sides of the belly need tons of blurring and expanding. Also, why is it smudged? O.o Either smudge the rest to match of blur it out- it needs blurring anyways, so... <span style="">06:27 Sat Nov 23

Withdrawing, sadly..I just can't get him to look right. I'll work on River's kit or something. 21:26, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to go ahead and take over on this. <span style="">21:41, 11/24/2013

Re-uploaded From doing this I learned that shading black cats is not my strong point. <span style="">02:55, 11/26/2013

Darken and define the shading - it looks flat and hard to see. wow he is very pretty 19:17, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Snowfur (Q) - For Approval
Thar she blows! I wanted to do a white cat because I haven't done one since.. Whiteberry. <span style="">16:04 Fri Nov 8

Define the shading. Pretty!

Define the eye depth a bit, too? 21:16, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reups! Thanks! <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">11:31 Sun Nov 10

I think her eyes still need to be defined better. Maybe make her black pupils wider? Amazing job, Amber! -- 19:28, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Could you smooth out the shading on the upper chest just a bit? It's a bit blotched. Great job! <span style="">00:41 Tue Nov 12

Reups! Hi. Thank yooou, <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">18:40 Tue Nov 12

recheck your lightsource use a sig sub page maooo >;c <span style="">03:08 Fri Nov 15

Could you specify what you mean? Just saying that is extremely vague and not really helpful at all, imho.

Lol you're right. The tail and belly read that the light coming from our right, and the hind leg off the ground as well as the face read coming from the left, and the other legs are too flat to read. I'll make a tutorial and put it up on a subpage of mine, I'm working on it. <span style="">18:33 Sat Nov 16

Could you smooth out the shading on the chest? It's starting to get a tad blotchy. 23:29, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

I think the ear <--- this way needs a bit more gray.

Reups <span style="">16:07 Wed Nov 20

Where's your light source coming from? 00:40, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that's great, Amber! Her pupils need to be more wider. <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Dotted 2px #EB234E; background: #0A7AFA; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"> *Swanflutter*  Warriors is my life~  06:18, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Eye style is artist's choice Swan.

Still working? 02:05, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

The top left sorry I've been ill <span style="">17:32 Thu Nov 28

Can you smudge the gray on the ear tips maybe a bit, as it looks a bit hard-edged at this moment.

Bluestar (Q) ~ CBA
Here's BLUESTAR! I love this cat soo much. Comments for improvement? 19:27, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit, and please don't align your images when you post them. ^^

Reuploaded. Not sure what you ment about the aligning images thing. Changes here. 21:19, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

See, when you post images, the thing should read  , but instead, sometimes it reads   . That aligns the image to the left (or right/center depending on what it says to the left of the pipe), and it should just be placed normally on the page. What it does is forces the image to stay in one spot, and also messes up the sections below it, should it be small enough. Since the other images aren't aligned, it forces the other images (and sections) to appear skewed, so to say, and also causes the images to not be sectioned properly. All in all, it's a pretty easy thing to fix; just go into source mode and make sure the coding says exactly what I said. ^^

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink 07:35, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I did smudge the pelt into the earpink, but I went ahead and defined it. 21:39, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

CBA?

Sorry to interrupt, but the light source is inconsistent. The hind legs suggest that the light source is behindh her, but her tail and belly say it's the other direction. 19:57, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. If changes aren't showing. 20:21, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

The shading is receding from the lineart a bit, and the earpink is leaking out of the ear. I know the shading lightness is artist's choice, but can you lighten it a tad? <span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -o-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -ms-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%);background: -moz-linear-gradient(left, orange 50%, black 50%); border:4px dashed; color: black; padding:2px; border-radius:5px;border-top-right-radius:100px 100px; border-top-left-radius:100px 100px;font-size:11px;color: #FF6600;">   Ѽ    A M B E R    Ѽ     P  U  M  P  K  I  N   V  S   O  R  E  O  <span style="">17:17 Thu Nov 14

Reuploaded. I redid the shading, but the shading is fine in terms of lightness/darkness, and I couldn't find any earpink leaking out, but I still ran the eraser tool around the lineart on that layer. | Look here if changes aren't showing. 22:19, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Shading darkness isn't fine in terms of matching. Tint your shading very blue and lighten it or the color will never match the other images.

Reuploaded. | Look here if changes aren't showing. 21:19, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading. 21:27, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 21:36, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading and light sources on the legs. I can barely see them, and they appear flat. 23:30, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

I can't see the ear pink on her torn ear. -- 23:55, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine. I used the same color of earpink for both ears, and that ear is in the shadows, so it wouldn't be as easy to see. Plus, if I remember correctly, the earpink doesn't have to be super-defined, as it isn't like that on real cats. However, if more members agree with you, I will change it. 00:49, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Blur and enlarge the highlights on her forelegs, and blur the shading along her belly and tail a bit more. 01:23, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. 01:40, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

I actually agree with Glitter. The highlights are making the earpink lighter, so keep darkening it or add some more earpink layers on < that side. <span style="">16:00 Wed Nov 20

Blur the highlights/lighter area on the left foreleg (our left). 08:13, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Add some depth to the shading, where the places where no light would hit would be the darker parts. After that, I think it'll be ready. 00:06, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Played with the shading opacity a little bit. 00:34, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Ummm... don't yell at me if I'm wrong, but I think there's another ear below the nicked one. Warriorsoftheworld2468 (talk) 23:06, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

There's not. 03:33, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

You don't see it? Look at This. Make sure to scroll down to her head. --Warriorsoftheworld2468 (talk) 17:19, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean that bit of lineart sticking out there? That's just part of the original lineart. The only part of the lineart I edited was the ear that I added the nick. If you mean the lighter area, it's just part of the earpink. if you mean the lineart just below the ear, those are whiskers. If it's how the tear looks, that's how it's supposed to be. If it's not any of those, then I don't know what what you're talking about. 17:30, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm let's go CBA.

Clovertail (Q) ~ For Approval
Wow. Her pattern wasn't so bad, and I got her pretty dead on. I didn't really like her, since she was pretty much only with the Clan for protection, and didn't get off her butt to train. But yeah. xD Comment away! 14:14, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

Where's the light source? The body, I can tell for the most part, but the face says otherwise. Also, define and blur your shading, and whiten the belly and chest white; they appear gray. Also, smudge the earpink, and define the eyedepth ouo 14:16, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

For shading placement to clear up source issues, I recommend this as a guide, not so far off of your current shading placement. Also, make the white go all the way up the front legs, as the hind legs are fine. Coming along well, Frosty! <span style="">16:10 Sat Nov 9

Re-uploaded. Thanks, Hawky!! c: I have all the Clovertail files, so when I search Clovertail, I see my image and the rest of her collection. I think mine matches pretty well. But I fixed the shading, eye depth, and made the white more white, and lightened the shading in those areas so it doesn't look gray. See here: if wiki is acting up still. 19:51, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and darken it on her body.

The white on her forelegs needs to be more higher up, to her belly, and the belly white needs to go up a bit more on her chest. 20:46, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't tell me you're looking at the wiki image, Beebs..look at the ezimba one, please. If you're not already. c;. But, I'm following how far the white goes up on the other images, and where it is currently, is where the other images' white stops. So I'd rather not change it. And Cloudy, if I darken the shading more, I'll just be told again that the white is gray, the shading over-defined, and the list goes on. Unless, there are certain parts of the shading you'd like to specify..then I'll see what I can do. 20:56, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops, I was. Well, could you define where the white meets the brown on the chest and shoulders? They seem a bit overblurred. 21:01, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Could you blur that little strip of shading on her shoulder to make it blend more? Also, could you maybe try to connect the back leg shading (the brown part, not the white) to the back shading? It looks awkward just by cutting it off right there. It's either that or you could blur it more. 21:19, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.  23:42, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

The shading still should be thickened and darkened on the brown. Why not try shading the white and brown with two different layers? Als, thicken the shoulder shading. I'm also not sure what color you're using to shade, but with how it is, it's starting to change the coloring (especially along the back), and it doesn't seem to match in certain spots. In the case of this shade of brown, try using a darker brown or something along those lines. Never use black- it looks green when you do that. Trust me, I've done it more than enough times. x.x

On that note for the shading tint, when I did the alt queen, I used a darker variation of the base pelt color, on around about 50-60% on multiply, try that. -- <span style="">08:55 Wed Nov 13

Re-uploaded. Thanks, Wildd. I did try that, and it worked wonders. 01:03, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Blur and expand shading tons. Good going so far <span style="">03:10 Fri Nov 15

The white pattern looks a little too straight across to be natural, if you know what I mean. Make it curve with the imagined muscles and belly more 05:23, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't uploaded, my computer died. :O I'm getting a new one..Uploads will be either tonight or tomorrow. And thanks, Kel c: 20:54, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. c: 01:35, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

It... Still doesn't curve. <span style="">00:24 Sat Nov 23

It curves...If I change it anymore, it won't look like Clovertail anymore.. 21:23, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I disagree. What we mean is it needs to follow the contours of the cat's body, making it seem 3D. For example, it should get higher up the left side of the belly and lower as it goes toward the left of the image, go high>>low on the shoulder closest to us, and kind of slope in a curve. I'm terrible at explanations, and I'm out of town right now so if someone is willing to explain my point and/or make a guide then so be it. And yes, it will match. If you fix it up right, it should have the same colors as well as blurring as it does currently. <span style="">05:20 Mon Nov 25

Re-uploaded. Hope this is what you were looking for, Kels... 03:19, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

The white's overblurred. How you had it blurred before was fine, but it was the direction it was going that needed to be tweaked a bit.

Re-uploaded. 03:30, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

May I ask for comments? 14:09, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Switch the light source on the hind leg away from us and the front leg closest to us. <span style="">16:56 Sat Nov 30

Fallowfern (Q) ~ For Approval
Got all the colors from her previous queen image. Here's the link. Comments? 02:39, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Could you define the light source? Sorry if I'm missing something but it looks like it's coming from the direct top, but I'm pretty sure the tail would be lit in that case. lol I'm not even in this project  04:55, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded -- I moved it to the other side, not sure if that was right or not, I'm hopeless with light sources. x.x If changes aren't showing. 19:38, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Make the tint of the shading more creamy, because it looks as if you're using either black or blue, and it's kind of creating a disharmony between the main fur color and shading. 20:28, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Put a little fur into the ears, and smudge it in? Looks good. c: You're not as hopeless as I am with light sources..trust me. x.x   19:55, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Smudging and the like on ears isn't mandatory and it's just become a bit of a style preference.

I think the ear pink could have some fur in it. 01:33, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

It's a style preference, as Cloudy stated above, so the earpink is fine ^^ Could you define the unshaded areas on the tail and legs? 03:36, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded -- I actually used brown for the shading, a color that's a few shades darker than the base. I played around with some things, hopefully it looks better now. If not, I'll probably redo the shading. If changes aren't showing. 20:04, November 14, 2013 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail and give the shading some more depth 05:24, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Where is your light source? If you want, feel free to ask for a shading image tut... <span style="">04:29 Sat Nov 16

Re-uploaded -- I just redid the shading, since the source I had was bothering me. Here are the changes. 11:48, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Earpink is way too neon, and the shading is a bit blotchy. <span style="">04:26 Wed Nov 20

Ear pink is the same as the other images. Which, They're fine on those; it's just how this ear pink is done.

Ok. But I just noticed the front leg closest to us's highlight is on the wrong side. <span style="">05:54 Wed Nov 20

Give the shading a bit more depth and smudge the pelt into the ear pink a bit more 23:00, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- Just realized I forgot the waste, and to move the leg highlight. I'll get those in the next reupload. 00:07, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Mmm, optional, but delete the shading between the shoulder and the forearm? It seems like between there they're kind of cut/dislocated in between? I'm horrible at explaining things but if you don't get it then don't worry about it. <span style="">05:24 Mon Nov 25

Re-uploaded And Kelpsey, I'd rather not, I think it looks okay. 13:28, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. But add some structure in the muzzle and cheekbones of the face? <span style="">16:58 Sat Nov 30

Speckletail (Q) ~ For Approval
If change aren't showing. Comments regarding the pattern would be appreciated, I know it's not right in some spots, but I'm not sure what I need to do to fix it. <span style="">20:12, 11/10/2013

The belly area looks a bit empty...maybe look at the loner, and fill in the empty spot with stripes that match those? 20:13, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

The stripes are blurred kind of oddly to me, for example, in some places, it's blurred/smudged but in other areas, it is not. Might I suggest that you unblur the areas where you have done so, and then take the blur tool, put it on a very low setting, and go over the stripes that way? 20:24, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading stupid edit conflict Ivy xP   20:25, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I think the stripes look fine, but possibly add more? Her original queen image had a lot more than this. -- 02:36, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

You really can't see the earpink, can you make it a bit more pink? Right now it's just brown. HeadmasterGriffin (talk) 14:23, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Here. Definitely happier with the stripes now~ <span style="">21:44, 11/11/2013

She looks kinda cross-eyed, but that is only the >>> (the cat's left) pupil. This is amazing, Shimmer! <span style="">21:54 Mon Nov 11

The ear on our right still has no earpink. HeadmasterGriffin (talk) 22:09, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Hawk! I honestly think both of those are fine though. The eyes if someone else agrees I can change I guess. I'd really prefer to leave the earpink how it is though- it's under the shading layer, and it's how I do all of my images. <span style="">22:30, 11/11/2013

I think the eyes are fine; I honestly think they're very pretty. -- 22:51, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thicken the stripes a tad? 00:42, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, especially on the belly.

I think the stripes don't mmatch the images very well, beyond the thickness. What you should aim for is kind of a classic tabby, but the stripes should be slightly smaller and have one mackerel stripe down the back. <span style="">04:03 Fri Nov 15

Darken the overall shading; I can't tell where the light's coming from 05:26, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">00:08, 11/18/2013

Make the stripes more squiggly/jaggedly, a tad bit like a classic tabby? <span style="">07:47 Tue Nov 19

Still working? 18:21, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded <span style="">21:36, 11/24/2013

Make the stripe points on the body just a biiiit sharper? 00:10, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Darkflower (Q) ~ For Approval
Dem eyes OwO. Comment away ~

Yeah, first one to comment on Dark's image~! Maybe blur the ear pink more? 21:29, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

I think the earpink's fine. I love the eyes, Stoney! <span style="">21:55 Mon Nov 11

Define the shading a little. dem eyes owo 01:46, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Could you perhaps smudge the earpink a bit? Sorry if this is like Brightpool's request, but I just thought it could help. Other than that, she's lovely~  03:24, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded I think the shading's fine though

Oh damn that was like a blue jewel in her eyes,you made it so bravel!-23:14 GMT+8 Stealfog (talk) 15:14, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

Steal, that comment ^^^ wasn't constructive criticism, if you have compliments/questions about an image you should take it to their talk page. I do agree with you, dat face doe <span style="">04:31 Sat Nov 16

I do apologize, but I have to keep tilting my screen and squinting my eyes to be able to see the image. Is there any chance of you slightly lightening the base pelt and slightly lightening the shading a little bit, so we can see the lineart? 17:46, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Sharpening the shading would also help add contrast a bit more between the darker areas and the lighter sections, of which I can't tell between without tilting my screen. 21:05, November 16, 2013 (UTC)

Still working? 22:58, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm...the shading needs to be a bit sharpened and the black needs to be adjusted so we can see left spray of whiskers a bit more. The eyes are...wowzas popping ^^ <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Dotted 2px #EB234E; background: #0A7AFA; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"> *Swanflutter*  Warriors is my life~  06:27, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded I lightened it up and sharpened the shading a tad but if I do so anymore it's just going to look more gray and kinda odd. And Swan, there's no need to repeat what others have already said when commenting on an image.

Maybe darken the shading a tiny bit, and sharpening it a bit more? There's very little visible contrast at the moment. 01:02, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Still working? 02:04, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded.

Poolcloud (Q) ~ For Approval
Not bad for my first gray and white. Comments? Look here for changes. 13:10, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Can you blur the patches and the ear pink more? 15:01, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. 16:58, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

The white is extremely gray.

Reups  17:38, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Still too gray, imho. Like, there are some parts that I have to squint to see the white and gray splitting apart.

Try tinting your shading to a blue-gray or something, that should do it. <span style="">22:45 Sun Nov 17

Reups 22:57, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe use pure-white instead of off-white? I think that'd also help it make the white whiter. 00:42, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

To back up what Beebs said, using pure white would help tons. You're allowed to use pure white, and there's nothing that says you can't. ^^

Reups this is so much better 08:26, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Just a note, you can always use off-white for white cats and make it not look gray if you don't overblur your shading. The gray affect with darker shading is only given because one can't see the edges of the shading very well, or it isn't well-defined enough. Anyways, sharpen your shading, especially along her front legs and chest, and add a bit more structure to her facial shading, where cheekbones, the bridge of her noze, muzzle, etc., would cause more highlights to be defined than others. (I can help you with this if you need it, like I said on Robin's queen) 05:07, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

A face shading placement would be great 15:43, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

This should help a bit, I hope? 00:37, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Reups thank you and voila 14:14, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

The white needs to be more white, but other than that, awesome Sorrel! <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Dotted 2px #EB234E; background: #0A7AFA; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"> *Swanflutter*  Warriors is my life~  08:48, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, but it's pure white; but do you mean make it more white where there's shading on it? 10:32, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Comments? 13:25, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Curve the smudging on the belly patch to go with the shape of her stomach. 02:53, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Reups not sure if changes are showing - I lightened shading in palces so it didn't make the white look gray, too. 18:30, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Softwing (Q) ~ For Approval
I can't make the shasing darker or it'll be gray. I used another layer for the shading on the patches. Changes are here. Comments? <span style="">20:42 Sun Nov 17

I'd suggest putting more tabby patches on her side. I know this is a different side than the other images, but white patterns are usually roughly symmetrical, and with that in mind, she currently looks like a totally different cat from this side.

Re-uploaded. <span style="">22:04 Mon Nov 18

Define the shading, whether you darken it or sharpen it or do a combination of both- I can't tell where it is on the face, the legs, or where it's coming from anywhere save for her tail. If you choose to darken it, which is a good route, try sharpening the edges, as well. It only looks too gray once darkened if your shading is overblurred. 05:01, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Re-did the shading, and now it is tinted. I don't want to hear that is is too gray or that it needs blurring. <span style="">21:55 Wed Nov 20

Where's your light source coming from? 00:28, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

It should be coming from the left. <span style="">1:07 Thu Nov 21

Source is fine imho. Great work!❤❤ <span style="">03:06 Thu Nov 21

If it's coming from the left than the left side of her belly that we can see wouldn't be in shadow, and there would be a little heavier shading on the right half. (Hawk Swoop is sort of what I'm talking about, but you'd have more highlights on her face from the complete left side, and not a little bit more behind her, like I had it.) 03:24, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Better? <span style="">0:05 Fri Nov 22

Blur that little piece of shading at the top of her very back leg (the one closest to us). Looks purrrrfect~ (cat puns aw yis)  02:31, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

I think the tabby patch on her face could be extended just a smidgen over her forehead. Beautiful Hawk c: -- <span style="">20:19 Tue Nov 26

Re-uploaded. Thank youuuuuu :3 <span style="">21:51 Tue Nov 26

Comments before approval? This matches quite well, and you did a good job! 19:43, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but can you blur the shading more on the back and define the light on the face 02:47, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Thank you, Beebs. <3 <span style="">15:18 Fri Nov 29

Maybe define the shading some more?

I think the shading is fine, but if anyone else agrees I'll define it some more. After all, this cat is a pain is the butt. Damn you white argh <span style="">17:22 Sat Nov 30

Rainflower (Q) - For Approval
ok. <span style="">02:15 Mon Nov 18

I think it's beautiful! Can you change the nose to pink like in the StarClan image?

I don't think the nose is supposed to be filled in on these blanks?

Oops, my bad. I'm new to these charart things XD

Sharpen the shading on her forelegs a little. This looks fabulous .o. 03:59, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

I can't see any highlight on her hind legs.. <span style="">07:39 Tue Nov 19

Highlights are not mandatory on images. Perhaps suggest an alternative, since I'm not entirely sure Splook uses highlights.

Maybe smudge the earpink a little since she's longhaired? 08:55, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

She needs a highlight on her hind legs, if your light's coming from this angle. At least along the right side (our right) of her foot. (By highlights always assume I mean the lighter areas, whether you use highlights or not.) 04:59, November 20, 2013 (UTC)

Can you change the position of the eye pupils? Like, maybe in the middle like most images are? -- 23:05, November 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * The pupils are the artist's choice, unless they're crooked or whatever. These are alright. 23:44, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, pink nose please. Anyway, its awesome. :D <span style="padding: 0px 5px 0px 5px; border: Dotted 2px #EB234E; background: #0A7AFA; -moz-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; -webkit-border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em; border-radius: 0em 0em 0em 0em;"> *Swanflutter*  Warriors is my life~  08:50, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

Queens don't have filled noses. Btw please use a user subpage instead of a block of text for your sig <span style="">19:50 Sat Nov 23

Smudge the pelt into the ear pink. -- 15:58, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="">22:51 Sun Nov 24

Define the unshaded parts just a bit? 02:25, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Could you darken and define the shading juuuust a bit?

Reuploaded. By defining the shading, I used that as defining the unshaded parts too. Let me know if I should define them more. <span style="">17:51 Thu Nov 28

This is completely optional, but may you add a tail highlight? All the other parts of her that are not shaded, have highlights. And I think the tail would match more with a highlight. Looks beautiful, Splook. c: 14:51, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

I think it's fine. <span style="">00:35 Sat Nov 30

Leafstar's Mother (Queen) ~ For Approval
Something is just... Not here. Not sure what, can someone pinpoint it? <span style="">00:59 Sun Nov 24

Reuploaded I tried thinning the stripes but it still looks weird someone help me plsplspls <span style="">02:07 Sun Nov 24

Lighten her base a bit more. Amazing, as always~! <span style="">2:50 Sun Nov 24

Also shift it so it's a little more cream-ish? Maybe asking Paleh for the file so you can get the colors might be a little easier...

Do you mean the pale brown? I did switch around the colors a bit to define the color, but it's making the gingery stripes look kinda bad. If I switch the pale brown back to the color I colorpicked, then the two colors won't contrast as much as they do now. So what do you say? Define the stripes, or define the pale brown? and I did ask Paleclaw for an xcf a while back, she just hasn't returned my message yet <span style="">07:26 Tue Nov 26

Yes, I'm talking about the pale brown. Right now, it seems too dark...and the colors really don't match her daughter's.

Ok, got it. I'm coming home today so I'll replicas tomorrow. <span style="">00:37 Sat Nov 30

Reuploaded. <span style="">10:35 Sat Nov 30

Brightflower (Q) - For Approval
...I must've been crazy when I decided to give her tail stripes like that...
 * groans* I took the lineart for the face from her alternate queen image, so it should match. All the colors are from her warrior and old queen images. Changes are here. Comments?  05:14, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Could you add more dark ginger stripes on her, and make them a tad thinner? 02:21, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes 01:58, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Add some more depth to the belly shading. 19:43, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Changes 02:40, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

River (Ki) ~ For Approval
My little River <3 All colors are from the StarClan image. Comment away~ 21:58, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Darken the shading, and he needs to be longhaired. Would you also mind adding some neck shading? It looks kinda sourceless without it. The colors don't quite match either, but I think that's because the shading is tinted on his other images, so try that?

hes gotta be tabby 22:03, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

I have a pattern for the tabby by the way - I can email the .xcf of it too you, if you want o3o 22:06, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Lol, sorry 'bout that Cloudy~ I tried it. And yeah sure, Beebs, that'd be great. My email is darkfrosty.frosty@gmail.com c: 22:17, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

sent~ hope you have an easy time matching the pattern 22:54, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Define your shading, it's looking flat 18:08, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Darken the shading too.

Thanks Beebs. Mind telling me how you did the stripes? I got the pattern down alright, I just can't get them to look like the StarClan's stripes. 02:45, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, Beebs, sorry if I'm confused, but why is Dark obligated to match your pattern? She's the first artist of the set, she can make whatever pattern she wants? Or did I miss out on something? <span style="">08:09 Tue Nov 26

Um, Kelps, I'm tweaking the set. I also asked to make the pattern is well, so that's why she has to match mine.

To Dark, I used a size one brush, and blurred at rate one with Gaus. blur, and smudged the tail stripes with a size one brush. 19:14, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Beebs. I'll have it up tomorrow. 03:31, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Here's a friendly reminder to not forget to upload! You have until Sunday night to re-upload~

Thanks, Cloudy! I'll have him up before then. 14:08, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. x.x Well, I followed Beebs' instructions precisely~ Hope you guys like it, and won't beat me down for not being really good at tabby's. 14:43, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thicken and darken the stripes a tad - they look lighter than the one I sent you ouo. Maybe try blurring lightly? 14:51, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Define and darken the shading. <span style="">16:43 Fri Nov 29

Blur the shading as well.

Re-uploaded. Not touching shading anymore, as it is artists choice on darkness. But I sharpened/darkened the stripes, Beebs. c: 00:17, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

That only applies to when the shading is too dark. Right now, it's currently too light. Please darken it some.

I think the darkness is fine on the gray, but on the stripes it's much too light, to the point where it blends with the pelt color. Also, I can't see a source. <span style="">00:43 Sat Nov 30

I disagree. I can't even see the shading. o.O And it's not my monitor because I just checked on multiple settings and I still can't see the shading on here... I honestly think it should be defined and darkened. The artist's choice thing only applies to the shading when you're asked to lighten the shading, not darken it.... That's what I was always taught, anyways.

I think the shading could be darkened some. Sure, it is artist's choice, but there is a point where you need to darken it, and I believe this image's shading needs to be darkened to be more visible ouo 01:10, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

It's kinda hard to make it more visible with the tinting..Maybe I can use a darker gray-blue. But I won't darken it that much, since I want to keep the stripes visible. I'll get to it soon. ;) 14:07, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Match the stripes to the starclanner on the main body a bit. They look lighter and a different pattern to the starclanner. 15:29, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

If you set the stripes layer mode on multiply, they shouldn't be fading in the shading. And yeah, I agree you should darken it more.

Cinderfur (Star) ~ Under Evaluation
Hi this is my cinderfur starclan art i am new so bare with

--Velvetmoon (talk) 21:14, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

I apologise, but Shoon has this reserved - this should be declined. 21:58, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Actually, no, they're fine. My reservation ran out a long time ago, I just forgot to remove it. 23:43, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the project! But first of all, your image must be named "Cinderfur.star.png," not jpg. Also, there is a background, and there should be none: the background must be transparent. Also, the lineart is choppy in some places, and misplaced/missing. And also, please place the image on the left side, but don't align it. If none of this made sense, comment here again, or on my talk page. c: Keep up the good work, Velvetmoon. 01:26, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Your image it too small, it's not the same size as the other StarClan images. You probably just saved it right off of the Project:Charart page (or maybe another way- either way you should try it like this), so you need to go and just click on the image on the PCA page. Then a box should pop up; in the top left corner there should be something that says "StarClanMaleShort.png", click on that and then save the image that shows up on that screen. You should be able to open it full-sized then! For the image itself I think I can see some shading on it, but it needs to be defined quite a bit. The eye depth should also be defined a bit. <span style="">02:32, 11/26/2013

I noticed that you changed the image file, just so you know you need to put something saying that you've re-uploaded (or changed the file) at the bottom of the comments on your image whenever you re-upload. The file name is still incorrect- it needs to be Cinderfur.star.png, exactly. It also still looks smaller than the rest of the images. <span style="">18:17, 11/28/2013

Gorsetail (P3) (Q) ~For Approval
I actually picked the stupidest most complicated stripe pattern out jesus 02:35, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

Leave more of a gap of plain grey between the last stripe closest to the shoulder and the white, and smudge it quite a bit. I think I'm going to cry ;c you just made my art skills look like crap with your amazing artyness  <span style="">07:12 Tue Nov 26

I disagree, Kelpsey. They're actually two different sides, and wouldn't be completely symmetrical. Smudging might need to be done a tad (but that's really up to the sheep to decide), but as for the plain gray gap, it's unneeded and it looks fine as-is.

Okay, since no one else has commented, I'm gonna CBA this.

So sorry to interrupt. :3 Why is it I'm always the one to break the CBA's .-. But, since you smudged all the gray fur into the white, I think you should smudge the gray into the white on the tail-tip, as well. After that, you may continue this. c: Looks amazing. 23:18, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Murrr the solid gray is smudged into the white... But the stripes aren't. Can you smudge those in, to match the warrior? I remember, when I was doing this image someone pointed that out. <span style="">00:03 Sat Nov 30

They do appear smudged, though? At least to me they do... I think it just looks different because Breezey and David style their images differently, and completely matching another user's style is complicated and they're also two different sides of an image...

All that I see, is that the gray was smudged slightly into the white to give it that furry effect on the body. I just don't see that effect on the tail-tip. I don't see the gray smudged ever-so-slightly into the white. That's what I'm yearning to see. So sorry if I caused an argument, but I'd prefer if you would please do so, skt. ouo 14:12, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

It's smudged, but you might not be able to see it because of the tail stripes? Personally, I think the tail is fine as-is.

Broken Shadow (Q) - For Approval
All the colors are from her old queen image. Changes here Comments? 00:39, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Add just a little depth to the facial and chest shading? She looks quite pretty, Scar! 19:46, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Chnages 02:44, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Move the belly highlight so it's along the left (our left) belly lineart, rather than so far to the left. It throws your light source off a bit. 15:30, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Whitetail (WC) (Q) ~ For Approval
'teldy needs to change the filenames for these eventually but here's Whitetail enjoy. Changes are here and all colors are from her warrior.

The belly shading is creeping away in spots. 21:18, November 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Nah, that's not the shading's fault; I'd forgotten to erase some of the extra highlighted areas.

I spy some earpink leaking out of >>> ear. Remove it? 22:38, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Oops.

Lighten the shading in the ear? 02:45, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

I'd rather not, but if someone else agrees, I'll gladly do it~

I agree. o3o It's a little too dark. 23:20, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. I won't go any lighter than this. Keep in mind it's still shading, and darkness has always been artist's choice.

Can you blur the shading a tad, and maybe try to add more depth to the chest and shoulder shading as well?

Re-uploaded. I just redid parts of it because it was bothering me.

Pretty sure it's my phone, but define the face shading? <span style="">00:46 Sat Nov 30

Re-uploaded.

Whitetail (TUG) (Star) ~ For Approval
Comments? 00:33, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Define the eye depth a tadddd? Sexyyyy~! As always ouo <span style="">0:51 Thu Nov 28

I think it's fine, unless someone else agrees, since that's how I usually do my eyes. 00:54, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

The eye on our left could. And expand the earnings down the ear? This is amazing! <span style="">00:49 Sat Nov 30

re-up 04:27, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Define the shading, please. It appears to be slightly flat in spots, moreso on the front paws and the tail.

re-up 14:56, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Meadowslip (queen) - Declined
- i hope i sent this right it's the frist time i have sent one Animerider (talk) 15:59, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

I can barely see a pupil. Very nice! Arcticblizzard (talk) 17:06, November 28, 2013 (UTC)

Berry already has this reserved, sorry. I'm gonna have to decline this. Nice work, though!

Mole (Cat) (Star) ~ For Approval
Comments? <span style="">22:49 Thu Nov 28

Is there any chance of you making the ragged fur a little spikier, maybe? If you'd rather not, that's fine with me.

^ Actually, it'd be ruffled fur. Not ragged. So I don't think she'd have to make it spikier. It looks fine the way it is. Keep it up, Hawky. c: 23:21, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

No, 'rumpled', which is what it is, is similar to ragged, Dark. I think it's okay as it is, though. 23:26, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

The paws need to be light. And as for the ruffles, they're supposed to match the rogue anyways. YUSSS YUU POSTED TIS <span style="">23:59 Fri Nov 29

Re-uploaded. Yes I did I'd rather not touch the ruffles, they /are/ supposed to match the rogue. Thank you all :D <span style="">17:25 Sat Nov 30

Sandstorm (W Alt2) ~ For Approval
Hi there I have no idea what this is but I like it. It's the russet alt, so if I need to tweak the colors, I'll gladly do so.

Aww... I wanted it *pouts* Thicken the shading a bit more on the shoulder and smudge the ear-pink a touch more. She'z puuuurrrddyyy 00:24, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Here be you go and thank youuuu

Rowanberry (Q) ~ For Approval
Comments? 21:38, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Could you unblur the patches if possible just a little bit? Compared to the warrior, these patches appear blurred slightly more.

re-up 14:56, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Nettle (Ro) ~ For Approval
Nettle~ changes be here. 22:36, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Define the leg shading and blur the belly/side shading.

Reups  12:16, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Mapleshade (A) ~ For Evaluation
This is my apprentice charart of Mapleshade. Comments please? Ⓐngel Ⓢⓣⓤⓓⓘⓞ (talk) 22:42, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Wow! This is awesome for your first charart! Great job! Maybe define your tail and paw shading, and I think there's a bit of waste around the image. 22:52, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Blur the black line at the earpink. Looks pretty, Angel. c:  23:24, November 29, 2013 (UTC)

Mapleshade (Ki) - For Approval
Comments? -- <span style="">23:32 Fri Nov 29

This... Looks... Awesome. One thing, the tail should be a little more puffy. AWESOME!!! :D 01:13, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

I think it looks fine. It is an extremely small blank, after all.

Leafpool (Q) - For Approval
Comments? -- <span style="">23:32 Fri Nov 29

Go over the stripes with a tiny smudge tool lightly, just to get a slightly fuzzy texture. Great job. .o. 00:26, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Would you mind thickening the belly shading just a bit?

Re-ups -- <span style="">03:24 Sat Nov 30

Splashnose (Q) - For Approval
Just in time <span style="">16:49 Sat Nov 30

I can't see the stripes at all?

I can see them fine? I think it's just your monitor... And as for the tail, it's mottled and doesn't have stripes. <span style="">19:00 Sat Nov 30

Mothflight (Kit) - For Approval
Comments? -Feather 17:16, November 30, 2013 (UTC)