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Raggedpelt (W) - For Approval
This is my first try at doing a charart, so I'm sorry if it's really bad/if I did it wrong. How is it?Hollytail 00:10, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, first; the lineart is really strange, it's white, it should be black. Second, you need to save it in png format, not jpg. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:42, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

How do I fix the lineart? And could that have anything to do with the fact that I had issues with getting the blank onto pixlr?Hollytail 01:06, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Did you delete the white inside the blank before you put the brown in? And what kind of trouble did you have? Min now  claw My dragon will eat you! 01:10, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Right-click->open in new tab for the image, and then you can edit it. The images in the gallery are shrunken a bit. -- Gοlδεnpαω A p p a r e ! 01:25, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Over the area with the blanks it says to click to get the image at full size, but whenever I tried that, it wouldn't let me place it in pixlr, or save it to pictures. It came up in a box in the center of the screen and all that it would let me do was highlight it...Eventually I just used the thumbnail picture...Hollytail 01:29, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, you can't do that. Copy the file name of the blank and place it into the search bar. Then, go to the page and get the location, and you're good to go! Other than that, the image looks nothing like  Møųş  ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  01:55, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

I tried fixing it in the right blank this time... How does it look now?Hollytail 02:30, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Use the color dropper to get the right coat color- he is still far too dark. And his stripes don't match the leader image. Don't worry, that problem is easy to fix. Møųş ëţą  łő  ŉ!!  04:07, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Or use the sponge tool set to saturate on size 200 will do. → •Maple  fern•  ←  11:56, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Better?Hollytail 12:59, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart is still weird...Layer a regular warrior blank on the image. The shading needs more blurring and so does the stripes. And, the ear pink needs to be lighter. Ice Spring is here! 15:45, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Tried fixing it, but what is layering?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 16:56, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Why did you blur the ragged fur lines? Those should be solid! ☮Quail☮ Felt that earthquake in Mexico... 15:36, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry... is this better? And what is layering?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:51, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

The eye doesn't look right...look at this or this to see how it should look.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   21:33, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Like this?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 22:28, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart is really blurred and there is some missing on the head and paws. Also darken and blur the shading. Add another stripe to the haunch and try making it more brown like his leader image-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   22:39, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I can say this but; it's been 5 days since you've worked on this. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  17:50, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

You can say it but this user still has time as we wait a week. Sakura Kiss Haikage 17:54, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Eek, Sorry! I worked on it, but I didn't realize that I didn't re-upload it. Oops... Sorry! Anyway, better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 23:21, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

The line art still needs to be fixed and his pelt should be a darker. Sakura Kiss Haikage 21:55, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

What's wrong with the line art and how do I fix it?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:39, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you smudged the picture! LucyϠ in the Sky With Diamonds 04:04, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart near his back ear is missing where it connects with his head. The lineart near his hind leg and tail are smudged too. you can see brown pixels. Just past a new lineart on top of it and clean it up some if there's extra sitting outside of it.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:45, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I would highly reccomend redoing this. LucyϠ in the Sky With Diamonds 04:22, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I could try to fix the lineart for you if you'd like. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my Love 19:58, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to redo it, how does it look now?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 00:32, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

The lineatr is good but im not sure what the dark brown smudges in his pelt are. Is it supposed to be shading? Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 19:42, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think they are. Blur the shading, lengthen the stripes and make them less dark like the leader image, and make the ear pink more triangular. Rain whisker  武士貓  00:14, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

The large blob of shading in the middle of his haunch needs to go away. Perhaps you might want to check one of the tutorials? Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   17:27, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Add more stripes and blur the shading. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 17:32, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to fix it, how does it look now?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:24, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

You still need to lengthen the stripes. 雨 晶須  15:27, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Better?Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 17:10, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

The colour is a little dark and there are more stripes needed in places. The ear pink is a little bright and/or needs blurring and the raggedy-fur lines look too... similar; as in they are all the same shape and size as each other. ✐Sa NdY  17:16, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Also, he needs a torn ear (unless he got that after he became deputy?) 雨  晶須  21:20, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 01:24, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

He looks more dark ginger than brown now. Blur the stripes some. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 19:35, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ash is right. What you need to do is save his leader or deputy pic and use the eyedropper tool to get the right color because it looks like your having trouble with the color. Also, the tip of the ear facing us is gray. Erase that.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:42, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:54, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah,just blur the ear pink a little more. Clar ris  sa! :)  11:00, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:59, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink should be blurred more, I don't see any shading or highlights, and the haunch seems empty. Add stripes on the haunch. Quailflight 06:53, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:28, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is really bright. Make it softer, like his leader image. <font color="#99badd">Cool Blue Reason: <font color="#191970">Wrapped Around Your Throat  22:10, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see much shading at all, but maybe thats just me... And I agree, soften the ear pink a bit. -- Quiet !...  03:08, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 20:20, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink some more. <font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 03:47, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink more of a reddish color and blur it. Also, the nick in the ear doesn't seen realistic. I can fix it for you if you like or just ....... er it's hard to explain I would say maybe thicken the lineart around the nick? What do others say?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 03:57, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if the nick looks any better, but I tried to fix it. Anyways, better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 21:58, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Add a few small stripes to the top of his head. BLur the earpink as well. Quailflight 08:20, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:black">Hollytail Lion x Heather 4ever! 21:58, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what program you're using, but you need to take the burn tool (looks like a hand) and run it over the back, chest, tail, and head. That will add some good shading. You also need to blur the ear pink quite a bit and the also the stripes. -- Bram ble  03:38, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail מרגלית Lion x Heather 4ever! 17:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be triangular.  Snickers  19:41, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Better?<font color="#00FF00" face="Handwriting-Dakota" style="background:black">Hollytail מרגלית Lion x Heather 4ever! 21:09, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and stripes-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:23, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderfur (E)- For Approval
My first ever elder! I know it's bad. Comments? ♥ Willow  03:08, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is over the limit.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:17, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

So how do I make it not over the limit? ♥ Willow  03:22, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

You have to wait until some more images are approved. The limit is 35 chararts up for approval. I bet plenty will be approved by tomorrow and you can put this up :) -- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:29, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

K thanks you're really helpful :3 BTW, I like your new siggy! ♥ Willow  03:33, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! A senior warrior, Bramble or Sandy will decline this soon-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   04:24, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

This can stay up Willowpool as it's now under 35 ✐Sa  NdY  16:10, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone? I haven't got any comments yet. It's not declined, is it? ♥ Willow  20:53, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

No, it isn't. My main comment is that the shading needs blending. ✐Sa NdY  21:03, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''How is it now?

A lot better! Just darken and blur the shading and try to make the ear pink less purpley. You forgot to sign :3-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   23:27, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Purpley? <font color="thistle" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 01:18, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Purple. Make it more pink-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:30, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. XP I think it's the same! (Pulls hair) <font color="thistle" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 01:37, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone?Doesn't it look like its smudged too much? <font color="thistle" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 03:48, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

It does look a little too smudged. Blur it together more and that will fix it.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   04:14, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

How about I make the pelt color darker like his deputy image? <font color="thistle" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 22:25, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Which is better, do you think? I know I post a ton but this is my 1st charart for approval so...<font color="thistle" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 23:47, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

I would definately say to keep the second one. Blur the shading on it, and make the ear pink more of a reddish color like his deputy image Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:16, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploded. Ok. I fixed the earpink and blurred it. How's it now? By the way, what's CBA? <font color="thistle" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 19:40, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

CBA means Comments Before Approval. But only the leader, deputy, and senior warriors can use it. Which excudes me! And about Cinderfur, the lineart on the tail looks thin. You should make it look normal, and blur the shading a bit more. ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  21:34, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''How's it now? <font color="thistle" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 16:11, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Is it declined or approved?<font color="thistle" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 04:10, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights some more and darken the tail-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   04:16, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. blurred highlights and darkened the tail. Anything else?<font color="turquoise" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 22:20, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wait a second here. I don't think Cinderfur was ever an elder. He died a deputy. *checks* Never mind. Sorry. But how could a deputy used to be an elder? LucyϠ <font color="Black">in the Sky With Diamonds 07:21, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

He was never really an elder. he was elder age but had to fend for himself under Brokenstar's rule. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my Love 18:56, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

So what should I do? <font color="turquoise" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 04:00, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the highlights just a little, because it's too bright now. Rain whisker  武士貓  00:12, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. darkened highlights. :<font color="aquamarine" style="background:White">Sky <font color="thistle" style="background:White">wish 23:25, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Looks a lot better! Just blur the highlights some more and it should be perfect-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   23:41, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''blurred highlights although for some reason it looks darker :<font color="aquamarine" style="background:White">Sky <font color="thistle" style="background:White">wish 00:04, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Are u sure? I'd say blur it a little bit more anyway. Clar ris  sa! :)  11:02, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you didn't bur n instead of blur because the whole image is too dark now. Lighten it so it looks more like the color of his deputy version. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 10:43, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''pelt lightened. <font color="cyan" style="background:White">Sky <font color="silver" style="background:White">wish <font color="thistle" style="background:white">♥ 22:03, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights some more-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:23, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (W)-Declined


Right. So here it is,my first charart- I admit,its not perfect,is it? In fact I dont think she will be aproved. I will do a little more work on her if thats the case. So please comment and tell if Yellowfang (W) is good enough! -- Clar ris  sa! :)  08:21, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's good for a frist try :) try copying her MC image and then get the ear pink from that, and also shhe doesn't need ear pink on her back ear. Add eye color as well. Also try and make the scarrs more like they are on the MC image. And last of all, no need to put the image in a Thumb :) Shruggy talk 11:28, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

It has to be full size, not thumbnail. That's also the (probably) the reason that the apprentice blanks show up blurry on pixlr. Click on them, then save to your computer. You might need to redo it, but maybe someone could resize it...? → •Maple  fern•  ←  11:34, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well, other than that:

1.) The ear pink is far to bright. It should be a natural color- see Yellowfang

2.) The scars are unrealistic and do not match her med. cat image

3.) I don't see color in her eye. When you get the right blank, fill it in, using the tutorials for reference

4.) The shading is too concentrated, see the tutorials for different shading styles.

Other than that, waaaaaaaaaaaay better than my first failure attempt. Mo us et al on !  Hopelessly devoted to CHOCOLATE!  11:46, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I will do that then. Thanks! And by the way,what tutorials should I use? Clar ris  sa! :)  12:00, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

There are many tutorials to look at but you can look at them all to find the right style here. ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  12:09, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

I tried my best,second time round,what do you think}} -- Clar ris  sa! :)  08:10, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Remember, do not put it as a thumbnail when you put it on the page, make it full sized. I can't really see the ear pink21:22, April 5, 2010 (UTC) Mo    us    et    al    on    !!

The line art is a little blurred.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:31, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

So is it aproved? Clar ris  sa! :)  17:06, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Not quite yet. The lineart is a little blurred and needs fixing, and the shading needs blending more. ✐Sa NdY  17:24, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

To make the shading look neater and more like her medicine cat image, smudge the shading a little to give it that kind of texture. Right now it looks like a spotlight. Birthdaypath Let's go April 7! 21:50, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. No need to add the furry highlights I did.  Dark hallows 05:28, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded-I tried to blur the shading :P Does it look better? Clar ris  sa! :)  07:57, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart is still really blurry. Do you need help fixing it? And the eye colour doesn't look right either-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:03, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Im going to redo this.It looks really bad :P Clar  ris  sa! :)  08:38, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

 Reuploaded -any better? Clar ris  sa! :)

Add highlight to the haunch.-- Quailflight 06:54, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Right now she looks black, she needs to be lighter, like her med cat image. -- Quiet !...  03:12, April 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Please work on this soons as I believe its almost been a week since its been worked on...--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 22:59, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yep, declined due to lack of work; will archive later  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:14, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Millie (Lo) - For Approval


With four images going to be approved today, one withdrawn, and 7 not images, this will be the 35th. Not much to say other than that, I'm pretty happy on how she turned out. Min now  claw My dragon will eat you! 14:40, April 5, 2010 (UTC)I

It looks okay,but maybe you could blur it a little more? Other than that,much better than mine! Clar ris  sa! :)  14:57, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded It doesn't look any different, but I blurred it as much as it will go without looking odd.-- Min now  claw My dragon will eat you! 15:14, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yes,its much better,I think it could be aproved now. Clar ris  sa! :)  15:28, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you could lighten the ear pink a bit? Snickers 20  Click here! 15:31, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

I love this, Minnow. :) All I see is just the shading could be blurred a tad more. Ice Spring is here! 15:43, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! Blur the shading so it's less visible. :) Fawnstorm  Never miss a beat..  16:50, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks for all of your nice comments! It's good to know that after months of being away I haven't forgot anything. Min now  claw My dragon will eat you! 18:47, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Try making the stripes a bit darker and darken the ear pink a tad. Also make her tail tip gray.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   04:12, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

In the manga, her collar was on. Should we leave it as it is, or add a collar? Plus, the fur doesn't really match the color of all of her kittypet, warrior, and apprentice images. See Millie.-- ☮Quail☮ <font color="Maroon">Felt that earthquake in Mexico... 12:52, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

I will do as Night shine said, and make two, one with and one without a collar and then put them both up. To Quail, the color can't really be helped because I used the eye dropper and these are the colors it gave me. Last I will get to this as soon as I can. It's almost ten and I still have to do my Latin homework. If I finish latin in time I will try to get it on, but I will get it up by tomorrow at the latest.-- Min now  claw My dragon will eat you! 01:31, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened stripes, ear pink, noticed that I only needed one with a collar, added a collar (a bad one) anything I missed? Min now  claw My dragon will eat you! 22:03, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Her kittypet image has a red collar. Can you make the line on the collar more stright. Sakura Kiss Haikage 22:11, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I changed the collar color and I tried to make it as straight as I could. Min now  claw My dragon will eat you! 14:37, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Could you shade the collar? Compared to the rest of the image it looks flat and cartoony. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   14:46, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

I personaly think every thing is good but the collar...its a little bit crooked and fat try making it more straight and more skinney....other wise i love itLionClaw132 19:24, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

It looks great but the collar really isnt that nice,try getting it more skinny. Clar ris  sa! :)  08:41, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Why does she need a collar? The only time we ever see her as a loner is in the Lost Warrior Series, and she doesn't have a collar then (this is Nightfall, siggie is messed up at the moment)

Yeah, the designers sort of flunked that part of the manga. I agree with Nightfall; loners shouldn't have collars, in any case. When she showed up in the Clans, she didn't have one, and we tend to work more with the actual books then the manga. If you could take it out, that'd be great. -- Bram ble  00:36, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Minnowclaw here! I am having problems with my computer so I can't get to the picture and I can't get on the computer very long so please wait until I can fix my computer.

Minnow, I unerstand that you're having problems with your computer, but this hasn't been worked on in over a week. Please work on this and upload the image again soon or this will have to be declined. _  Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 00:31, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Frostfur (Ki) - For approval
ok its my first charat ever. I know it's bad but still..... Comments? Silverstar Leader of Shineclan!  16:12, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but even with two discussions this is over the limit of 35. Just when I thought we had that problem sorted... Declining as I'm fed up with having to clean up the page already today. Please resubmit this when the page goes below 35 images. Thanks Snickers, and it's not just you so don't feel bad. ✐Sa NdY  16:19, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Its quite good but as Sandy said,below 35. Clar ris  sa! :)  17:17, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

It might have changed since Sandy's comment but this is the 35th image. Haikage Ash's Talk 19:47, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

So, is it ok? Silverstar Leader of Shineclan!  19:49, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's fine now. The background needs to be transparent, not black though. ✐Sa NdY  19:52, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploded Better? Silverstar Leader of Shineclan!  20:24, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

wait. I have this reserved. Can't i do her? Echo Kit  21:14, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Echo your reservation is over two weeks old. Snickers has the right to do this image . Haikage Ash's Talk 21:23, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

oh... I was about to but her up but oh well. Echo Kit  21:24, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

The lining on the right ear is not there, and I can't see the highlights really well. What program did you use? ~Ec hos  tar  22:04, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

There is gaps in the line art in various places.<span style="font-family:Constantia; background:LightSilver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;">Snowstorm Deputy of LightClan! 22:06, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded crosses fingers Better?

It looks as if you're using paint to do this image. You need to use pixlr of some other image program. The shading needs to be blurred. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:31, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to blur the shading more. Silverstar Leader of Shineclan!  11:23, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

You are familiar with blurring, right? And some of the lineart was drawn over. Birthdaypath Let's go April 7! 22:53, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * It looks as if you tried to draw some of the lineart back...The ear pink needs to be blurred around the edges and this white is too bright so the shading won't show up as much and it'll make it harder. Look at her other images for reference:



To make it easier for you use the color droppler so you can take the base color from one of these images. Don't take the shading at all though and you are using pixlr right? Because it still looks as if you're using paint. If not there's always GIMP you can download :)-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  22:27, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I'm using pixlr. I'll work on it : ) Silverstar  Leader of Shineclan!  22:34, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm on vacation and pixlr does not work. : ( I'll fix it when I go home. (which is in 2 days :) Silverstar  Leader of Shineclan!  00:03, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded What! every time I try to change it on Pixlr it stays the same! = ( Snickers!  Meeow!  I am such a furball.  I ♥ the Warriors wiki!  22:17, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

I sugust you redo it. The shading looks like you sprayed it on using Paint. You need to burn it on using the burn on pixlr. Sakura Kiss Haikage 22:20, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I'll redo it. I'll have it done soon. Silverstar

If you want, I can help you re-thicken the lineart. Otherwise, just do what everyone else said above. Rain whisker  武士貓  00:10, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Computer problems.... Getting it fixed tomorow. Right now I'm at the Library.*sigh* Sni  ck  ers  20:04, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid it so is it any better? Sni ck  ers  04:10, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

The shading still looks as if its painted on. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 04:16, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I promise by StarClan I was using pixlr Sni  ck  ers  04:24, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Im not saying that your not using pixlr. I'm saying that it looks like you're using the paintbrush instead of the burn tool. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 04:36, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry :S The burn was weelll kinda weird with me Sni  ck  ers  13:35, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

You seemed to have smudged part of the lineart, like near the forelegs. I can help you fix that if you want. 雨 晶須  15:26, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think looks good, but I see a bit of stuff like smuged fur and I also see you accidentally blured the tail and the chest together, making it look mixed up. But other than that, it is SO cute!

p.s. I have a cat

Graystripefan 14:48, April 22, 2010 (UTC)☞Graystripefan☜

Reuploaded Can someone remove the gray background for me because when I did that it wouldn't let me save it cause who knows why...So apart from that any better? <span style="color:Red;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em color:Red">Memo <span style="color:White;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;Border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Silver">rial <span style="color:Blue;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Blue">star Remember the ones who died...  22:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Parts of the lineart seem to be missing. Just copying the original kit lineart, making the white parts transparent, and lining it up on a new layer over it should do the trick. (: -- Quiet !...  03:15, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Umm.. Layer? <span style="color:Red;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em color:Red">Memo <span style="color:White;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;Border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Silver">rial <span style="color:Blue;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Blue">star Remember the ones who died...  19:12, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ummm... Whats a layer? Spri ngs  tar  20:22, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Copy and paste the lineart over this image. Make sure you delete the white pixels around it. There are lots on the kit blanks-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   20:28, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid her. Didn't like it before. So Commentos? Spri ngs  tar  11:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is...blotchy and I don't see any eye color. Φτερ όaερ  άκι  13:27, April 25, 2010 (UTC)I'll Work on her  Snickers

Reuploaded Layers.. Hmmm I tried :/ Spri  ngs  tar  19:55, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

The background is gray, it needs to be transparent  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 22:25, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yay! Fixed! Spri ngs  tar  20:36, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

That is better :) Okay, darken and blur the shading, make the ear pink more of a reddish color, and color the nose in  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 21:56, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded It won't blur any more. Spri ngs  tar  22:05, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Comments?  ★Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 19:04, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

There's some blurred lineart on her left (our left) foreleg. Looks good, otherwise:) -- Ŧ ∆ ķ მ ♰ § Ʊ ო Σ        ö        19:37, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Briarlight Blank


For Briarlight's blank I am going to do a deformed warrior blank. I was wondering if I could have some help making it? Thanks. Fawnstorm This is one battle Tigerstar will not win... 10:43, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sure, of course I'll pitch in. Also, are we going to have her hind legs twisted backwards, or not? Cause she broke her backbone and can't move her hind legs. <font color="#33ccff">Ham and Eggs <font color="#33ccff" style="background:teal;">a days work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig 14:17, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

I thought her hind paws would be out behind her so it looks like she is dragging herself along. So her back legs are behind her, if you see what I mean? Fawnstorm This is one battle Tigerstar will not win... 14:34, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, here it is. I can't make the legs or paws look normal, though... <font color="#33ccff">Ham and Eggs <font color="#33ccff" style="background:teal;">a days work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig 01:45, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Here is mine: -- N i g h t s h i n e    {   02:16, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Oooaaahhh! I like! But I think the hindlegs are too much like a teddy bears, thick and fluffy. Could you make them a bit thinner? Please? ;) <font color="#33ccff">Ham and Eggs <font color="#33ccff" style="background:teal;">a days work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig 02:50, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

I made them a bit thinner. But Fawnstorm can edit the blank the way she wants.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:01, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thank-you Night! Its ''amazing! ''I'll get to work on it right a way! Fawnstorm This is one battle Tigerstar will not win... 10:36, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

What about me! ):( <font color="black" style="background:tomato">17silverthistle Welcome to the Nursery! Of SkyClan! 13:49, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yours too! For the base-line! Fawnstorm This is one battle Tigerstar will not win... 14:23, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think the tail she be down too. It doesn't look right to me for some reason with the legs down and the tail just sticking up. It looks funny.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  21:34, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Shimmerpool. If she cant move her legs she probably cant move her tail. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:45, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, because cat's tails are attatched to their spines Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:49, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, here she is. I made her tail thick, because she's swollen, remember? So are her hind legs, so it pretty much all fits together! <font color="black" style="background:tomato">17silverthistle Welcome to the Nursery! Of SkyClan! 02:07, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I think they meant the tail should be down, not up even more. I don't think it should be swollen either. I'm pretty sure the swelling went down by the time she earned her warrior name. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:05, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

k, what about her hindlegs then? They look swollen. I quit! ):( <font color="black" style="background:tomato">17silverthistle Welcome to the Nursery! Of SkyClan! 23:27, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

No need to be throwing a fit about this now....I had this more in mind.
 * The tail could be edited if its too thick if you want. :)-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  00:47, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Here is the tail thinned out. I didn't add transparency because I was lazy-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:31, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Pretty good! Only thing is, perhaps leave a small gap in the line serperating her tail from her body, there should be a small indent in her leg where he foot ends, and, though this is minor and if it's too hard to do you don't have to, her front legs should be slanted a bit more outward, becuase it would be amazingly hard for her to hold hereslf up like that. I can draw you a diagram, if you want, and if the changes are too hard to make then don't worry about it; they're just suggestions. Nice job! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:00, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

I put the current blank at the top of the section, and as soon as you think the blank is ready, Fawnstorm, post a message saying that the current version is fine and you've started. Then I can archive it. This is still seen as a discussion section, for those of you worried about the limit. -- Bramble 22:11, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

As Mossy said, this is pretty good, but the hind leg facing us looks kinda wierd. It all of a sudden goes down to the drooped position. Probably you'd want to make the top part more slanter, if that makes any sense. Also, the front legs are a little higher than her hind legs and tail, if you could make them more level, that would be good.

Yeah, I've seen a cat sit like they do in the warrior blanks, and the bump in the hind legs is their KNEE. I don't think Briarlight would be able to have her knees like that. Erase the hind leg bump and redo it so it looks like the back part of the hind legs. Butterfly } { Song!  19:28, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

I usually only lurk, and don't participate... But due to the anatomy... The back is... weird... where the legs connect to it. If you look at a picture of a cat lying down the shape of the knee and hip changes. What your picture currently shows is a cat whose legs aren't being dragged behind... instead the knee is still folded into the sitting position with the heel and foot flopped out in a way that would indicate the leg is broken, not lifeless. Unfortunately more than just simple editing of the blank will do the trick for this one. Parts of the rear half need to be completely re-drawn, not just edited. A reference picture of a cat or dog sitting with the legs out behind would be helpful, methinks. I'll see if I can't stalk my spaniel and get something for you. <span style="color:#3665A2; background:#EBF6F9; border:1px solid #3665A2; -moz-border-radius: 1em; color: #3665A2;"> Kitsufox Fox's Den 22:07, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

The paws don't look....Natural. LucyϠ <font color="Black">in the Sky With Diamonds 08:12, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

That'd be great, Kitsu. Nightshine, when we get some sort of reference perhaps I can finish up editing this? It needs to get off the talk page and it's needed so Briarlight can be done soon. I'm not that bad at anatomy, as long as I do it on paper first. -- Bram ble  00:11, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, was I supposed to be fixing this up? Sorry. I'll get to work once I'm back from Hawaii. But, Bramble, you can edit this if you would like.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   04:33, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

You should add some lineart around where the red line is. Sorry if I'm being a trouble or anything. <font face="Papyrus" color="#ffcc33">Raven <font face="Papyrus" color="#ff3366">Randomness!  22:03, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

I added what Ravenflight put above. Diagrams are really helpful to explain changes-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   17:12, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think its fine but where the red line is,is rather strange. Clar ris  sa! :)  11:05, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think Raven meant something more like this:

Sorry I didn't make it red, it wasn't transparent so... :D Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  16:00, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the hind legs need to look bigger, because nothing is wrong with them other than the fact that they can't move, like this: ~Ec  hos  tar  22:32, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

What I meant was that limbs crease where they bend. Having lines to indicate the creasing helps make it more realistic. <font color="#99badd">Cool Blue Reason: <font color="#191970">Wrapped Around Your Throat  22:12, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for posting yet another redline, but this is my take on it... The light gray is the current outline, then red is what seems to be correct, at least to me... -- Quiet !...  03:40, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I think I made it worse...-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:47, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Her legs look like they're clenched, but they should look limp. I think it was better before. <font color="#99badd">Cool Blue Reason: <font color="#191970">Wrapped Around Your Throat  01:51, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

can i use this for my briarlight charart? i thinck it looks goodLionClaw132 01:17, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry no. This is for Fawnstorm to use. It is made for when she puts Briarlight up for approval-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:25, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I changed it again-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   01:31, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

accuallly look at the reservations fawnstorm had it for more then a week96.54.70.109 02:38, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

The limit is two weeks. But that doesn't count because this blank is being made for her. Do you understand?-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   02:56, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Not to forget that the charries from the newest book were given by a drawing so Fawnstorm is to have this image until they decide not to have this at all anymore.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 20:45, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I took a crack at it, and the result shows why I have never before submitted a blank. XD I was trying to make the front legs look bent so they could support her back, and I took Quietstep's design of the back legs into it, which is awesome by the way, Quiet. Can anyone see some clear ways to make it better? Bram ble  03:16, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Also removed some of the extra files in this section. Bram ble  03:18, May 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I like it Bramble! The lineart is bugging me however as its thicker than the rest--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 03:19, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I thinned it up a bit. -- Bram ble  03:31, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I thinned it even more. -- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:00, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think its good now :), anyone else?--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:46, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thank-you for all your hard work, I think this is ready now. I'll use this blank and if anyone has any cooments about the blank, I'll do it. ;) Γǻώή  ςτόŗm  15:48, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Shy Fawn (SC)-For Approval
Here she is! Second sharpclaw! Γǻώή ςτόŗm  08:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Again, why am I so slow!? I really want to put my charart up! Image wise, this is good. Just blur the shading and highlights. Also, darken the earpink and make it smaller. But this is good.<span style="font-family:Constantia; background:LightSilver; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Aqua;">Snowstorm Deputy of LightClan! 14:06, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Note: I am dping this while Briarlight is being worked on :) Blurred shading and made the Ear Pink darker and smaller. :) Γǻώή  ςτόŗm  15:29, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any shading... Could you make it more noticeable??? I think you blurred it a little to much... Mo onp  elt   ۞  18:07, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry about that Moonplet. :) I think I got over-excited. :3 Γǻώή  ςτόŗm  18:24, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink bigger. Sakura Kiss Haikage 14:29, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Largened Ear Pink. Better? Γǻώή ςτόŗm  15:30, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Center it some more. Sakura Kiss Haikage 19:29, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Centered it. Sorry it took me so long, my laptop wouldn't let me upload it. :3 Γǻώή  ςτόŗm  09:53, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Make the shading more visiable;thefore, darken it. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 14:06, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, darken the shading and/or add some highlights. ✐Sa NdY  17:34, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading more. Clar ris  sa! :)  11:07, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded I was talking to Sandy and Shruugy on the IRC and they said to show what my shading normaly looks like. Here it is. Dapple star  10:03, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, that doesn't look too dark to me. It just needs blending. ✐Sa NdY  12:03, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's horrible though. :( Γǻώή  ςτόŗm  12:45, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are hard to see, and the bottom of the earpink could be blurred. Quailflight 08:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Have attempted to blur the shdng, but have failed, also I've brightened highlights. Γǻώή ςτόŗm  10:32, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading some more-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:25, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Clovertail (W) - For Approval
Here is Clovertail as a warrior, since her kits were made apprentices just before Firestar and Sandstorm left in Firestar's Quest. Comments/Criticism? -- Rain whisker  武士貓  21:56, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ooh! I likes! But the white-meets-brown place near the chest looks...awkward. <font color="turquoise" style="background:white">Willow★ Do you want fries with that? 23:11, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's the same as her queen image:  Rain  whisker  武士貓  00:05, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, this looks good to me. The only thing I see is maybe blur the ear pink

Nightfall The evening star is shining bright 01:45, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, blur and brighten the highlights, and lighten his haunch shading. It looks a little too dark. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 02:20, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and brighten the shoulder highlight so it matches the haunch hightlight. → •Maple  fern•  ←  11:12, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Any better? 雨 晶須  17:39, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights look awkwardly bright compared to her queen image, try darkening them some. ♪  Ice  throat  氷喉   ♫   ☀  02:13, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

That would probably be due to her queen image not having highlights. Yeah, so you should either darken them like Icey said or you could get rid of them. Their not required and I don't usually use them as you can see below in Frostfur's apprentice pic. But if you want to use them, darken them.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 19:32, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. What else? 雨 晶須  02:33, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Move the ear pink up a bit-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   04:14, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

There's a gap inbetween the haunch and front leg. Make it white. :) Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  13:05, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Done. 雨 晶須  23:37, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the white transition on her back some more. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 22:45, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Back? There's no white on her back. 雨 晶須  18:29, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. I meant back leg. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 18:45, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I've blurred the back leg transition, what else? 雨 晶須  19:28, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink more-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:26, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Rainfur (Lo) - For Approval


Hi everybody, I'm new, so if this fails, that's my excuse. :-D <font color="#0000ff" style= "backround:red;">Leopardspot <font color="#0000FF" style="background:red;"> Where's my Fireclaw? 22:24, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

I un-thu

mbed it so I could see it better. I suggest looking at the tutorials for the charart--you can find a link to them on the main page. They'll tell you how to shade, highlight, and detail correctly. I myself normally use Icythroat's tutorial.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">S

<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">haf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  00:38, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I've kinda skimmed a little, but I'll look through them thouroghly. Thanks! <font color="#0000ff" style= "backround:red;">Leopardspot <font color="#0000FF" style="background:red;"> Where's my Fireclaw? 00:59, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

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Needs pupil,blur shading and spots and blur ear pink. Good job though.=) Silverstar

Can I join the project? Though I can't post much images. I'll try to post tons though.

-Sagestorm70

This is good! Just....

1.Go to take the burn tool and put it around the body,

2. Dodge tool at hardness 20 and put highlights, and;

3. Fix the eye. LucyϠ <font color="Black">in the Sky With Diamonds 05:15, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Completely re-did it. <font color="#0000ff" style= "backround:red;">Leopardspot <font color="#0000FF" style="background:red;"> Where's my Fireclaw? 21:07, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

If light is coming from the top (which would result in shadows on

the bottom of the image) you dont need shading there. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my Love 19:54, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Removed upper shading, added more flecks because the back looked to plain. Also, I accidentally moved it and couldn't get it back to normal without messing up the chat area. Go me. -_- <font color="#0000ff" style= "backround:red;">Leopardspot <font color="#0000FF" style="background:red;"> Where's my Fireclaw? 01:42, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 02:19, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the shading more. <font color="#0000ff" style= "backround:red;">Leopardspot <font color="#0000FF" style="background:red;"> Where's my Fireclaw? 19:39, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think its fine. Clar ris  sa! :)  11:10, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur spots even more <span style="color:Red;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em color:Red">Memo <span style="color:White;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;Border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Silver">rial <span style="color:Blue;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Blue">star Remember the ones who died...  19:14, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Does anybody have any advice for blurring in GIMP with a laptop mouse? I don't have my mouse with me. *destroys laptop mouse* <font color="#0000ff" style= "backround:red;">Leopardspot <font color="#0000FF" style="background:red;"> Where's my Fireclaw? 02:48, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't use GIMP =|  Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 12:54, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Also make the earpink larger,then blur it  Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 12:55, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerstar (A) Up for approval
Well, here he is! Open for comments now. Butterfly } { Song!  13:46, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

The image is a redlink at present. ✐Sa NdY  13:48, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I KNOW. I can't open the file! I'll try again. Please wait Butterfly }  { Song!  14:24, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Done! Butterfly } { Song!  14:29, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any eye-color. Φτερ όaερ  άκι  14:49, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

In the future, don't use caps, because it's like shouting. I do see the eye color, just that the highlight in the eye seems a bit big. Also, blur the stripes and shading on the tail. -- 雨 晶須  15:16, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Needs eye colour! :3 Dawnleaf 14:45, April 19, 2010 (UTC)Dawnleaf

The eye color is there, but whoever made these blanks made the highlights just as big as the eye color space. And I'm sorry, I won't use caps in the future. Butterfly } { Song!  19:05, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think he had the nick in his ear when he was an apprentice. Clar ris  sa! :)  11:22, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, he might've. Thistleclaw was a pretty tough mentor.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 19:29, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

As for the image, you should use a tutorial or an apprentice pic like Frostfur's for the eyes.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:26, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I still think this is good for my third attempt (I think of it as my first because it's the only one that was up for more than one day). I origionally made him with the scars on his muzzle, but painted over them because he got them later. Butterfly } { Song!  01:10, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

You still haven't put coloring in the eyes. He should have amber. Quailflight 16:49, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Try to copy the eyes from another apprentice image like Shrewpaw. If not, I can do it for you.-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 02:35, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Sorry for the wait. How's this? I changed the eye highlight to the eye color... Butterfly }  { Song!  14:47, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Add some eye-white. Bring up an apprentice image on your art program, and zoom ito his/her face. That should help with the eye color, pupil, and eye-white positions  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 01:50, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see a pupil. Just *a glint of amber eyes* xD Spri  ngs  tar  20:40, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

There is a pupil, and the eye white was preventing everyone from seeing his eye color. Make up your mind please! Butterfly } { Song!  16:09, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

No one said get rid of the eye highlight just change it's placement. Do what Night said look at some of the approved apprentice chatarts and copy the eye from there. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 16:33, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Or look here for how to do the eye. 雨 晶須  21:52, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Stonetooth(D)- For Approval
Decided to do something different. Comments? ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  22:14, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Amazing! Just blur his back shading more. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 20:22, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I blurred the shading as much as I could. ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  20:46, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks good. Clar ris  sa! :)  16:27, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on his haunch and back leg.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 19:49, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Is this better? εСћб ђэάѓτ  10:37, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comments? εСћб ђэάѓτ  22:22, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

It's only been two days, be sure to wait at least five to six says before asking for comments. As for the image, this is very good :) Just darken the stripes more on the face  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 22:34, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Sorry, and thanks! Is it too dark? εСћб ђэάѓτ  10:40, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit, right now it's the same color as his stripes  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 01:28, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Boulder (Lo) for approval
he looks terribble he has some errors but i will fix them Iceyfang 21:31, April 22, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

You used the thumbnail instead of the full sized blank. Remake it using that. Sakura Kiss Maybe you're my love 21:38, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded Iceyfang 21:57, April 22, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

Add more shading around the body, blur it, make the ear pink more....pinkish. Blur the highlights and add more stripes. -- Ice The stars will light your path...

reuploded Iceyfang 22:14, April 22, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

Blur the stripes and darken the earpink and shading and blur them.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 23:49, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

It needs to look more like his elder image.. -- Quiet !...  23:57, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Needs an eye.(As in color,pupil.) <span style="color:Red;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em color:Red">Memo <span style="color:White;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;Border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Silver">rial <span style="color:Blue;Font-family:Papyrus;Background:Black;border:3px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; color:Blue">star Remember the ones who died...  00:00, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

It's not terrible, Iceyfang! But the ear looks too fake, and smudge the stripes.-- ≈៛₪¥ -§₰₪₥≈  11:48, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded iceyfang  15:18, April 23, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

Blur the ear more and blur his back. Also,why is the colour overlapping the lineart,did you blur it a little too much? Apart from this,its not terrible,its great! Clar ris  sa! :)  16:36, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 01:27, April 24, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

The tabby stripes are too dark and the ear pink is too bright. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   01:57, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink is too bright. <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:aqua">Zoe27 10:28, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 13:38, April 24, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

Woah...What happened to the stripes?They are too light,and I can see dark stripes under. Well apart from that really good! <span style="color:Goldenrod;Font-family:Comic Sans MS;Background:Black;Border:2px solid; -moz-border-raidus:1em; Color:Goldenrod">Smoke on the water Fire in the sky☼  19:41, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 00:25, April 25, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang

The stripes are too dark, copy them from his elder image. His earpink appears to be purple-pink, and I don't see any eye-color. Φτερ όaερ  άκι  00:50, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

the stripes are wayyyyy to dark try making them like his elder image for instance...make his stripes 2 more shadings than his pelt colorLionClaw132 03:49, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this soon.  Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 21:12, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Snickers, users have a period of one week before we give them the decline warning. Iceyfang has two more days.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 21:47, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Oops sorry =| Anyway I sugest that you make the pelt lighter and the stripes darker. Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 23:04, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

sorry i havn't been on ive been school work but then i have to do a show so i wont be working on this much <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 13:06, May 1, 2010 (UTC)iceygang


 * The lineart is blurred on his back side near his tail.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 03:22, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * i cant get to work on this for 2 weeks but do not decline this can some else do it for now <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:yellow;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">iceyfang 03:46, May 2, 2010 (UTC)iceyfang


 * I'd be happy too, unless if I need to wait on Darkstripe being approved..--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 01:04, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Owlstar (W) - For Approval
How is he? He's my third one. I'm finally starting to get used to making chararts! Comments?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 21:25, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot more. Φτερ όaερ  άκι  23:36, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Better?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 01:09, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the front of his haunch. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 15:45, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Where, exactly should I add the shading?-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 22:51, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

The front of the haunch, where the little dab of shading is touching. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 19:38, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Added haunch shading.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 21:43, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   23:49, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Blurred shading. -- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 00:53, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Chasing Clouds - For Approval
I will say that Moonpelt's version was very good, and I'll remember to put the rank after my charart next time. I guess I didn't think I needed it since Chasing Clouds has only one known rank. Anyways, comments?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  23:31, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Huh...blur the shading on his gray parts and darken the shading on the white transition. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 15:46, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is good....blur the gray. Quailflight 17:47, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you blurred some line art on the ear. <span style="color:lime;font-family:Century Gothic;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Moonpelt is a Jayfeather fan :3 13:51, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Also, add some grey to the face. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 19:39, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart's blurred in several places. <font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 00:21, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should add more gray patches all over-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   00:27, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred the shading on the gray parts, darken the white shading, fixed the blurred lineart on the ear and some other places, and added gray to the face and other parts.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:14, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart looks weird. Quailflight 09:49, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

It's blurred a lot. <font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 23:00, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Where exactly do you see it blurred? Maybe it's obvious to you, but I can't tell. My computer crashed a few days ago and I have limited time on my brother's computer, so I can't really look over to see exactly where it's blurred.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  23:52, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Around the head and tail, I think. <font color="#50c878">Raven <font color="#6495ed">flight <font color="#9966cc">92 00:29, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get to working on it soon.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:27, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Graymist (Q)-For Approval
This is one thing............. an epic fail. XP Comments?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 02:32, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. Quailflight 17:47, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred stripes. Comments?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 00:11, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the stripes, and add a few to her legs  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 00:14, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

When I did darken the stripes, it didn't match her warrior image and messed the whole picture up. The stripes on the leg are there, you just can't see them very well because of the shading. Comments?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 03:09, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I still think that you should darken the stripes in the shaded area. The shading would darken the stripes. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 19:27, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Darkened leg stripes. Comments?-- Ea rt hsto rm   Keep  the   Earth   clean! 22:15, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Keep blurring the stripes, because it looks like they've only been blurred over once. Here's a trick:

If it looks like it won't blur anymore, press the mouse again and keep repeating until the blurring is perfect. Quailflight 10:49, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred stripes more. Comments? Snow storm  23:01, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes have no highlights- they seem to go over the shading and highlights you put- they look drawn on. Could you fix that? Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   20:44, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I understand what you are saying. Do I have to redo the image? Or is there a way to fix it? Snow storm  20:53, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well, acually Mouse, that's the way I do my tabbies. I do the shading and highlights first, then I do the stripes  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 03:56, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

A lot of people do that but it only works if you use the burn tool for stripes. You should do the stripes first if you paint them on. As for the image if you're careful you can just highlight that area. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 13:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I used the pencil tool to put the stripes on :3 What should I do? I also did it the way Night did it. Is it ok? Snow storm  18:18, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading again. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 20:15, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I never darkened the shading before, and if I do the stripes wont be visible. Snow storm  03:05, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit bigger-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:31, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yellowfang (MCA)- For Approval
Here she is! I added a scratch under the eye. It looks better. :D Under the limit- there's a brokenstar and a mist discussion. Sorry Lionclaw, I had it reserved first. Anyway, constructments? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  14:07, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Blur the shading and center the ear pink a little.-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  14:14, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Centered the earpink and blurred. Stupid blurrer- weird word. Is it real? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  14:39, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

The back lineart is grey, colour it in black. Darken the shading more, and add some/darken the shading on the herbs. -- Ice The stars will light your path... 19:37, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

? The back lineart... It isn't, is it, because I never made it grey... Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  16:06, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think that you blurred the lineart accidently while blurring the shading, but the lineart is a gray color along the back (spine to be more specific). _  Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 01:52, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'll edit this on Sunday since I'm sleeping at a friends tonight, tomorrow and Saturday night. ^^ Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  15:52, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sandstorm (A) - For Approval
Since there is 4 discussions and 1 being declined this should be under the limit. Also my Chasing Clouds is going to be declined so I'll put this up. And last the sun is hitting her back so the shading is on her front. Constructments? Moon The one and only! 15:39, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the whole image a bit and darken the ear pink. This looks awesome! Also add a few more tail stripes and darken them-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   00:35, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Constructments? <span style="color:lime;font-family:Century Gothic;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Moonpelt is a Jayfeather fan :3 00:53, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think this is perfect!-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   23:28, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on the bottom need blurring. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   23:35, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

On the bottom of what??? LOL <span style="color:lime;font-family:Century Gothic;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Moonpelt is a Jayfeather fan :3 02:18, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant the chest. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   12:11, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? <font color="#66CCCC">Moonpelt <font color="#66FF99">? 12:36, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks a little too light. Darken it. 雨 晶須  21:55, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the stripes a tad. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 23:29, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Wetfoot (A) - For Approval
Ok, since there is 4 disscussions, and two being declined, I think this is under the limit. My first charart in a while. I'm pretty proud of it. Comments? Also, can ]a project lead add me to the Current Projects list? Blacktail <font color="#008000">Talk! 16:48, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good. However, the eye doesn't have any white in it. Quailflight 17:39, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blacktail <font color="#008000">Talk! 17:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think you made the stripes a little too big. I don't know... <span style="color:lime;font-family:Century Gothic;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:lime;">Moonpelt is a Jayfeather fan :3 12:46, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  20:13, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Owlwhisker (Ki) Up for approval
My first kit charart...soo tell me what you about it! Dawnleaf 04:57, April 27, 2010 (UTC)Dawnleaf

This is great! Darken the stripes a bit and darken the shading.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:25, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Color the nose in. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 19:33, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this. It has been 7 days.  Snickers  19:35, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, color in the nose, add shading, and darken the stripes. -- Nighty You know what... I like pie. XD 21:04, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Halftail (W) For Approval
There are a few discussions, so I think this is okay. I tried to copy Bramble's stripe style, and failed XD Comments?  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 03:26, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Looks awesome! Make the ear pink more triangular. Also, do you think you could approve Jay's Wing? It's been over 24 hours.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:29, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks! Centered ear pink. And are you sure? It's still the 27th where I'am. Oh wait, I was up past midnight last night, so I approved him and Spiderpaw (and I think one other) in the a.m. Does that count as a full 24 hours though?  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 03:40, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

The time is different on the wiki. Right now it would be 3:51 pm April 28th for the wiki-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:51, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so we go by the time on the wiki?  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 03:53, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I do. Or you can remember what time it was CBA'd. Darken the shading a bit more-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:57, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Darkened shading  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 05:09, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Try adding a few more stripes in between the others-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:12, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, that would make the stripes look very crowded as they are already pretty close together. Plus, the stripes on his elder image don't have smaller stripes in between  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 05:22, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, then it is perfect! To me at least. What do you say about Jay's Wing?-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:40, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shading on the haunch could be lightened a bit, but other than that it is amazing! Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   23:51, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thanks, Mouse! I lightened the shading a little bit on the haunch  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 08:01, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Brighten the haunch highlight a teensy bit-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:32, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Sparrowpelt (A) - For Approval
I tried a new shading style. Comments?-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   21:16, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is nice. I don't know what to say so let me get back to you on that.... Quailflight 12:04, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! :]-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   23:50, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Make it lighter.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:23, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

It's just as dark as his other images-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:04, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the eye color a bit. It looks white right now. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 22:36, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded darkened eye colour-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   23:45, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! Just make the ear pink smaller and more reddish like his warrior image. Then he'll be ready :)  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 00:22, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded fixed ear pink-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   00:49, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval? _  Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 00:25, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Graypool (Ki) - For Approval
This is my first art is it ok? Pantherstorm 21:53, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

It's great for your first charart! Blur the shading some more-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   22:01, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

is it better? Pantherstorm 22:17, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! She looks a bit lighter than her other images though, run the burn tool over the whole image once or twice  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 22:29, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, how is it now? Pantherstorm 22:54, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink lighter-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   00:50, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Does the ear pink look better now? Pantherstorm 01:36, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes :) Make the eyes more yellowish like her other images  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 03:56, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I tryed to make the eyes yellower, is it better now? :D Pantherstorm 16:18, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Take the same eye colour from her elder image.-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:32, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Goldenflower (A) - For approval
One thing to see. TOTAL EPIC FAIL. Anyway I won't be able to get on until Sunday because I am going the the Disneyland in Anaheim (The one on the west side of the US) for my Girl Scout Bridging (Girl Guides). This is the 35th image. Comments?-- Quailflight 08:11, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oooh,Disneyland! Luckey :D I had to stay at home for my bridging. Anyway,maybe you could blur the shading a bit,because I can see where it touches the base color. Spri ngs  tar  20:49, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. It won't blur anymore, so please understand this.-- Quailflight 22:52, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hi there! I'm new, so can you please tel lme how to join charat projes=cts? I want to know how to make Charats and get them on the web site!LILYFERN(STARCLAN HELP, I CANT DO ANYTHING RIGHT!)

I love all the pictures you guys have been posting! PLEASE< SOMEONE SEND ME INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO DO THAT! LILYFERN

Lilyfern, chill out and watch the caps; it can be taken as shouting. I will add you as an apprentice to project charart :) There is a list of tutorials here that will help you with chararts. Reserve a character on the project page, (please be sure that no one else has reserved that character first) and then here, there is a list of characters who need images. Good luck :)  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:47, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'm going to Disneyland in an hour or so and I'm not going to be back until Sunday. See you then. Quailflight 13:45, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 01:39, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

May I have help with the blurring again? (I'm back.) Pixlr is blurring very unwell *hits computer screen* Quailflight  23:09, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think that GIMP's blurring tool is much better than Pixlr. You could download GIMP (I believe it works on Windows too) here: http://www.gimp.org/downloads/ otherwise, you could ask someone else to blur it. I can do it for you, if you want (I have GIMP on my computer). 雨 晶須  23:29, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. I gave it a try. But I still need help. I do need someone to help me with the blurring. Quailflight 11:32, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add a small nick in her ear. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:12, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

REUPLOADED. Added nick and renamed image to Goldenflower.apprentice.-- Quailflight 08:37, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:33, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darkstripe (W) - For Approval


I believe this is along my lines of fail...it took forever to get those stripes to match his other image, but it was worth it. Comments?--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 21:37, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know I shouldn't be here.... but not fail Shimmer, stunning. ✐Sa  NdY  21:40, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sandy, *waggles finger* get off the computah XD Shimmer, this looks awsome! The stripes look as if they were smudged instead of blurred though, so maybe blur them some more  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 21:52, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Updated...and *gasps* Now Sandy, even I know you shouldn't be here lol. Finish those exams because mine are coming up in two weeks. I'll be in your situation soon :P How is this? I'm beginning to fly though images again o.o better find someone else now...--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 22:18, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

The stripe on the haunch seems a bit smudged. Maybe darken it a tiny bit. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 22:35, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Darken him just a tad. How's this?--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 02:54, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Highlights need blurring.  Mo    us    et    al    on    !!   20:47, May 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * This is the best I can do. Anymore and I'll start messing up the stripes.--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:03, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Could you perhaps lighten the patch on his nose? It's hard to see the lineart there. And I know I colored his nose pink in the rogue image, but to be consistent, I think we decided to just leave the warrior nose black. Also, his eyes are blue in the rogue version. Darkstripe seems to have his eye color change many times; they've been mentioned as yellow, blue, and brown.. I think. Sorry about the trouble you had with the stripes; it was my style you had to try and copy. -- Bram ble  22:52, May 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * His eyes are golden on rogue image Bramble, see: Darkstripe_(R).png And its fine :) I like to challenge myself. I kind of had to highlight the top of his head again so it could blur in well.Updated--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 00:59, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Fix the highlights. Mist cloud  20:58, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Molekit (OTS) (Ki) - For Approval
I tried two different styles, and I'm not sure which one to put up for approval. Comments, suggestions, and opinions? _  Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 21:43, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like the second one better. It seems odd to have an underbelly darker than the main color, rather than lighter. -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 21:47, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I do like the second one better; but you could also try brown with a cream underbelly (and a few cream markings)  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 21:50, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

They are both really good (only what to expect from Icy XD) But I like the second better  Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 22:05, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like the second one best. The brown patches need to be blurred a bit more. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 22:31, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I, personally like the 1st one. <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 22:40, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

I like the second one-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   23:37, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

The second looks better, I think it will look better with a underbelly patch, and darken the shading some. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 01:37, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightfall that I would like the first one, but with the colors reversed. :) But it's your decision ultimately.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 13:08, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - Personally, I like the second one, because you almost never see a cat with an underbelly darker than the main pelt color. Also, if you do choose the second image, try making the patches more uneven, as they seem pretty circular to me. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:38, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried what Nightfall and Insane said to, and I like the style and all, but I think i failed with my artistic skills. :P _   Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 00:46, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you could put a patch on our right?  Silverclaw  We will,We will rock you... 12:52, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. _   Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 16:20, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the chest highlight a tad. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 20:35, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. _   Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 00:24, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Make the brown dip in a the chest a little. The white looks like a strait line. -- Dark hallows 21:21, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

My internet is extremely slow right now, and it's taking a couple of minutes just to load the page. Our internet speed is supposed to be running at 3 Mg, but it's running at .5 Mg, and my parents don't know how long it will be before it is fixed, so please keep this up at least a week before it's declined, I hope that it will be fixed by then. _  Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 22:59, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Shortwhisker (W)- For Approval
He's an epic fail. Comments? Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 02:46, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Epic fail? I don't know what you're talking about; he looks amazing! =D I think you just need to lighten his ear pink, and he'll be good. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 02:58, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really think it's necessary, Honeyfur. Nice job! <font color="#66CCCC">Moonpelt <font color="#66FF99">? 03:19, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, lighten his ear pink a bit and make the tail stripes more visible-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:56, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks Honey and Moon. I lightened the earpink but there isnt anything I could do about the stripes. Comments? Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 16:06, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

He looks really dark, could you lighten it a little? Dark hallows 21:20, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

He's actually lighter than his kittypet image because of the highlight. The images won't match if I lighten it anymore. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:39, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

New Naming Conventions
Due to the new policy: Image Use, we're going to be using a system of naming our images in an organized and systematic way. You may recall that Sandy and I tried to do this earlier back in 2009, but it only some what worked. The file should be named as such: Name.rank.extension. An example is: Angelwing.warrior.png. Also, Insaneular is busy moving older files to be uniform with the new naming conventions, so don't be panicked when you see a lot of redlinks. Thanks, -- Bram ble  17:21, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

(M) - I usually name my images something similar to that, but I'll make sure I name it correctly the next time I make an image. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:35, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I normally do this anyway, and Bramble did you ever get in touch with Eu about our problem we were going to do with the blanks?--<span style="color:#00A1E0; background:silver; border:3px dashed gray; -moz-border-radius: 1em;color:#00A1E0">Shimmerpool ★Follow the stars...☆ 20:42, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. I'll try to remember that. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   20:45, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

So something like: Firestar(W).png wouldn't be alright?-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   22:12, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

No. It would be something like Name.rank.png. → •Maple  fern•  ←  22:30, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, so like this - Firestar.warrior.png - or, I think Firestar.W.png - would be alright too (correct me if I'm wrong, Bramble)  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 00:57, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

We were hoping to avoid images like that - such as 'Firestar (W).png' or 'Firestar.w.png' or 'Firestar.wr.png' etc. It makes it easier to plug it into a gallery knowing the file name, because it will be exactly what it is. We won't have to guess if it's (W) or w or W; we'll know it's 'warrior'. Shimmerpool; I've e-mailed him and am waiting on a response. I'll get back to you as soon as he answers. -- Bram ble  02:53, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

So Bramble, you mean, name files like Ivypool.medicine_cat.gif something like this?-- ≈Ivy -sδmδ≈  03:09, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Sedgewhisker (A) - For Approval
Tried to emulate the stripes on her warrior image, but it wasn't that easy. Comments? -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 21:26, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Darken the tail stripes some, darken the eye color just a little bit (it looks a tad bit lighter than the warrior and kit versions), and you forgot the ear pink. Otherwise, this is awesome. :) _   Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 00:52, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Can't believe I forgot the ear pink. xD -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 01:17, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

It's okay- we all do it. I really don't see anything else. Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   12:10, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bram ble  22:46, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think the shading could be darkened more. 雨 晶須  23:24, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Better? -- Gοlδεnpαω T e n s o u ! 21:18, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. Repeating comments before approval? _  Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 00:21, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Robinwing(SC)-For Approval
Here I know he doesn't have a description, but I really worked hard on him! ≈Ivy -sδmδ≈  13:49, May 2, 2010 (UTC)



You can't really put a Charart up for approval if it dosen't have a description. What book is he in? Γǻώή ςτόŗm  13:54, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Even if he does have a description, this is over the limit with only one discussion going on, isn't it?  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 14:04, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

No. The Briarlight blank is considered a discussion. Sorry Ivy but Fawn's right. We can't make chararts for cats without a discription for all we know he could be black with gray spots. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 14:08, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

It you got rid of the herbs and put the warrior lineart back over it (you'd probably have to do the eye again, though), this could be Robinwing (SC). _  Ice  thr  oat   ^  Only one more month of school! 15:59, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Icethroat's right; this could make a pretty good Robinwing. You would have to change the eye color to amber though, and he is short-haired.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 20:08, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well then... REUPLOADED ≈Ivy -sδmδ≈  12:31, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more, darken the shading and colour in the eye. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 22:26, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Thin out the stripes a lot and add ear pink in addition to what Icestorm said  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 00:30, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded My chararts are getting worse.. ≈Ivy -sδmδ≈  08:05, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes still need to be thined, and blur the highlights. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 20:31, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

The eye looks weird.-- Dark hallows 21:18, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderfur (W)- for approval
Hey guys! Haven't been on for a long time and I think my skills have faded... but, here ya' go! EARTH DAY!  Make sure you recycle! You get $!  16:47, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, just blur the ear pink. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 17:59, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Is this supposed to be Cinderfur? I looked and can't find a Cedarfur. Ashshadow Bring me to Life! 18:36, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think she does mean Cinderfur. He's on her current projects list  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 21:31, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink needs to be more triangular. 雨 晶須  21:56, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Ye, I do mean Cinderfur. I just couldn't remember his name, when I made him on Pixlr! Opps... EARTH DAY!  Make sure you recycle! You get $!  15:14, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

I can barely see the shading-- Dark hallows 21:17, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (D) -- For Approval
I'm hiding under my bed, if you need me. But since there are a lot of images in the CBA stage, I think I'm safe. → •Maple  fern•  ←  23:18, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is beautiful! Great job! The only thing I see is the ear pink and the white/brown transition could be blurred some more. 雨 晶須  01:06, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Awsome job, Maple :) Blur the shading and highlights, make the white on his chest stretch up higher, and add a few stripes to his face; in addition to what Blackclaw said  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 01:24, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Again, when I state 35, I mean 35. That doesn't mean put up another when images are in CBA or if they're being declined. It means put it up when there's room. Anyway, the images is good. I don't see anything other than what has already been stated. -- Bram ble  22:42, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Bramble, I shall not do it again. Anyway, it's fixed. → •Maple  fern•  ←  00:54, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

This is good, lighten the ear pink, I can barely see it and darken/add shading to the head. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 12:13, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Add more shading to the legs, also. And maybe blur the highlights more? Dark hallows 21:16, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Redwillow (A) - For Approval
Well, images are in the CBA stage, and mine should get approved today, so I think I'm safe. But I think this cat is messed up. He has a girly name, and can willows be red? And...ginger brown cat? *dies* -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 22:02, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Again, when I state 35, I mean 35. That doesn't mean put up another when images are in CBA or if they're being declined, or if your image is very close to being approved. It means put it up when there's room. Now, the image is well done. The only thing I see is that the spots look too regular and poka-dotted. Make them a few different sizes and more irregular, and blur. -- Bram ble  22:44, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I'm really sorry, Bramble! I promise it won't happen again. And thanks. :) -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 23:24, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Add brown patches, and maybe make the mottled more like his warrior image. → •Maple  fern•  ←  10:56, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 12:12, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, Icy this is good! An I mean good! As Bramble said the spots look more like polka dots. Make them like spots. Mist cloud  21:00, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

I would just say Darken shading, and this will be VERY ready. -- Nighty You know what... I like pie. XD 21:05, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The shading made the dark spots a reddish colour...should I keep it that way, or lighten it? Btw, the shading was in the front so the highlight was on her back. Than,ks for the nice comments! :D -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 21:16, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink blends just a tad too much, make it brighter.-- Dark hallows 21:13, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Brightened ear pink, better? -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 21:26, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the head  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:30, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. It wouldn't blur more. -- Icestorm Peace 23:39, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

The patches don't really look like his warrior image -. → •Maple  fern•  ←  23:46, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar (W) - For Approval
I'm withdrawing Rosetail, so this should be ok. Comments? <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 20:07, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't he have torn ears?  Snickers  20:10, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

His other images don't have torn ears, and I don't want to contradict. It'll probably be fixed next tweak week. <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 20:13, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading and stripes, and darken the ear pink a tad. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 20:16, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! '''20:28, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

There are some stray pixels around his tail.  i nsaneular  The original Hazelnut spread 00:11, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ''' <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 00:24, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

His tail looks odd... the break point doesn't seem right... perhaps thicken it?-- Dark hallows 21:11, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 23:42, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks unnatural. Maybe make the tip bend down a little, you know, sag? Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   00:35, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? <font color="Turquoise">βειιϛοʉπɗ <font color="Aqua" style="background:white;"> ding-a-ling! 01:06, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Mistystar (L)- For Approval
Well, since Artimas couldn't do her, Bramble offered to let me do her! So, here she is! Comments? Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   23:12, May 4, 2010 (UTC)\

All hail Mistystar =D Blur the highlight on her chest a little.  Snickers  23:16, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Rename the file Mistystar.leader.png →  •Maple  fern•  ←  23:31, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

The chest highlight looks fine to me. This is great! Darken the haunch shading a bit more-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   23:47, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the neck shadeing more, just a bit so it looks natural... :P EARTH DAY!  Make sure you recycle! You get $!  00:23, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

She's so pretty! But yes, do blur the neck shading. Dark hallows 21:09, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the neck shading, rename the file, and darken the shading a tad all around. -- Hawkshine Partyyyy! 21:27, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I uploaded this before the new naming rule. Anything else? Mo   us    et    al    on    !!   00:33, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

This is beautiful!! I'll I see is that the shading on her back should be darker. -- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 01:58, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Moss (Q) - For Approval
you like? i do i think its my best yet....constructmentsLionClaw132 03:50, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

The shading is too dark. Lighten that and make the ear pink smaller. Also darken the shading on the face-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   05:01, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Where did the image go?-- N i g h t s h i n e    {   03:35, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfur7
I would like to join this Project.Hawkfur7 08:02, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I've added you as an apprentice; welcome to the project :)  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 08:05, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

SkyClan's Destiny Characters
I noticed that a couple of people have put SkyClan's Destiny characters into their current projects. Sorry, but they should be taken down since the book has not yet been released. They should only be put up on August 3rd (when it will be released). We've done that with previous books. There isn't any reason that this one should be an exception. Sorry if I sound bossy, or anything:) -- Ŧ ∆ ķ მ ♰ § Ʊ ო Σ         ö        19:34, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

No, you don't sound bossy, it's just the rules ^^. Dark hallows 21:07, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I'm really sorry! *face palm* I really want to do Waspwhisker though, guess I'll just have to get up extremely early and reserve him :/  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:11, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

One character reservation per person?
Dunno about this but I'm finding it imposible to find characters to do... I had a hard time finding 'one'... and IDK... maybe it's time we change it to one character per person. At least until a new book is released? Dark hallows 21:40, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I can see where you're coming from but I don't think it's such a good idea. Some people already take down the image they have up for approval to reserve another and I think having only one character per person would encourage. I think we should just enforce( or enstate, I dont know if it's a rule or not) that you have to keep the character that you have up for approval on your current projects list until it's approved. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  21:46, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Shady, Im going to have to go with Ashy on this one. But, would you be able to change your current project when your image is in the CBA stage; or when it's put on the article  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:12, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking put on the article since last minute comments happen every once in a while. Ashshadow. Warrior of StormClan  23:14, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that makes sense :)  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 23:16, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

No big deal I don't know if I support this myself-- Dark hallows 23:48, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Flametail (A) -- For Approval
This is Flametail as a warrior apprentice! Comments?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  00:02, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the whole thing a bit and blur the shading. -- Icestorm Peace 00:10, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred and darkened. More comments?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  00:26, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

The shading still needs more blurring.-- Moonflight A Star In Her Own Mind... 01:56, May 6, 2010 (UTC)