Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Declined 77

Feathertail (Star) ~ Declined
I'm not sure if I'm allowed post this, but nobody touched my reservation. Since Splook's was declined to time limit, Appledash took over but her reservation was outdated, and Splook reserved it again. But she needs to wait for two weeks to reclaim it, and only one week has passed. I might be very annoying right now, but I feel like if I don't post this, I will never get a chance to. I love Feathertail and I'm insanely proud of this, so I decided to give it a try. If someone's going to decline this with reasons, I'm not going to flip the world over, but... Now feel free to yell at me if you wish.

Define the facial shading 14:22, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

Actually when my time passed I asked a lead if it was okay if splook reserved this. They said yes and yeah...so technically its splook's. 16:04, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

According to the guidelines, one must wait for two weeks after their image gets declined due to the one month limit. Even though this is the tweak page, I'm not sure why this would not apply. 16:14, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

So one lead says yes, all leads have to agree?

If someone else reserves it, the two week thing doesn't matter at all. The image is rightfully Splook's, as the two week thing applies to the approval page only. We never agreed for the tweak page as well. If Icy's ran out, and Splook took it, that nullifies the "limit" or anything of the sort.

i do remember reserving this when icy's reservation ran out.. and i'm pretty sure it hasn't been 2 weeks since that so 19:38 Fri Aug 28

Okay Splook you can take this over if you like. I'm just saying it seems quite unfair but okay.

But it's not unfair. It's very much within the rules. This is when Splook reserved the image, which is after Icy's reservation ran out. If someone reserved it after Splook's initial image got declined, then that nulls the two week thing...or it would have, if we had it for the tweak page. But, there is no "two week" ruling for the tweak page. I understand you're proud of the image, but it's not fair to Splook to enforce a rule that we don't actually have for this part of PCA.

I mean, it was quite obvious why Icy reserved it...

IANS: If you reserve an image, it's for you to do it, not to reserve it. Regardless, in the guidelines, it did not make expectations for tweak page time limits, so... 03:53, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Unless I'm missing it, I've never heard of a rule against reserving for others if they say/ask you to, so no one did anything wrong here. Nubface (talk) 10:02, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Well, *shrug* did I ever say it was in the guidelines? Although, we really do not need to be robotic enough to flat out follow completely what the guidelines says and not (which is pretty outdated by the way). One thing I'd like to point out is that it steals others' chances of trying a chance at the image, which is the whole point of why users must wait for two weeks before they can reserve it again. 10:15, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

That is only for the approval page. And actually, before you assume that Icy wasn't going to post it, I'm pretty sure she was. It's kinda rude to assume that she wasn't ever going to post it. >.> But, she's been on vacation and she broke another one of her computers. When we came up with that, which was before you joined, Burnt, it was for the approval page, not the tweak page. We had multiple users get their images declined and then immediately try and post them again on the approval page. This rule does not exist for the tweak page. I'm sorry, but the image is Splook's, simple as that.

Ember (Ro) ~ Withdrawn
HotTeacher69 (talk) 06:19, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Could you define the main body shading a tiny bit, along with the shading on the tail? I'm having a bit of an issue seeing it, and shading on short-haired cats are a pain.

There's a line of waste at his butt 13:02, September 5, 2015 (UTC) There's also a line of waste under his front leg and paws. --Dewsplash (talk) 14:16, September 5, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash, 14:16, September, 5, 2015

re-uploaded killed the waste, and is the shading better? its hard to shade this colour weh HotTeacher69 (talk) 18:52, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail. 10:09, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded only so much i can do considering most of his tail is stripe HotTeacher69 (talk) 18:28, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Not sure if this spam but there's some shading leaking on the back paw closer to us. --Dewsplash (talk) 18:58, September 7, 2015 (UTC)Dewsplash 18:58, September, 7, 2015

re-uploaded not shading, but i killed it HotTeacher69 (talk) 19:08, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

OMG I can't get over how gorgeous this is o.o define the shading on his farther hind paw a bit? 03:41, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

re-uploaded thank u B) HotTeacher69 (talk) 06:26, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

withdrawing for black ear HotTeacher69 (talk) 22:26, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Archiving.

Red Claw (Ro) - Withdrawn
aka s'more 05:46, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

I think he should be a tad bit redder- auburn is reddish-brown, so maybe use a color around Pinestar's?

Re-uploaded 07:08, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

I think it should be much, much redder, and more saturated, not so gray. Auburn is a deep, rich red-brown color. Jayie Unwritten words~ 07:18, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded 02:33, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

That's still way too gray. This is the kind of auburn color I'm talking about: http://www.herinterest.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Auburn_hair_color_ideas_2014_04.jpg A very deep red-brown. Jayie Unwritten words~ 12:22, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Actually, auburn is simply reddish brown, or in other words, russet. it can be pale, dark or whatever shade. I made it redder. 13:32, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, I'm gonna butt in here and say that auburn is usually a medium color to darker coloring of reddish-brown. Source: my sister who is a licensed cosmetologist and actually works with colors. Can you darken the pale parts or tweak them? Every time I see this, it keeps looking like you're not tweaking the base because all I can focus on is the pale parts and they kinda stand out a bit...

Re-uploaded. I tried, but honestly this is starting to look a little neon on my macbook... 10:01, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

I still say it's not saturated enough, it still looks too gray-ish, but I'll shut up if no one else agrees. I just think auburn is supposed to be a really rich, deep color. Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:30, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

No, Jayie, you're right. Also, is he supposed to be a tabby? I can't see the stripes at all over what appears to be a texture.

Re--uploaded The base is literally neon red right now :/ Also, according to the oxford dictionary, auburn is simply red-brown, not dark red or anything like that. I tweaked this and hopefully it looks better. 01:38, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

I can't see stripes either tbh. 01:41, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

I think there's something wrong with your screen, because this doesn't look neon red at all. And according to other websites: Auburn hair ranges in shades from medium to dark. Just because it's for a hair color doesn't make it different.

I think the problem is that you're making the base more saturated, but not the stripes, pale parts, and texture. We can barely see the base colors under the markings, so if the markings aren't more saturated, almost none of the cat looks more saturated. Saturate the other layers? Jayie Unwritten words~ 01:45, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re--uploaded I used the Oxford dictionary for this one- It just simply states reddish brown. I now saturated everything and hopefully this looks better. 05:31, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

As I said before: I still can't see the stripes. What are the stripes, and what is the texture? It's not because of the colors or anything- I just can't make out the difference. Are they supposed to be faint stripes...?

Okay, I'm sorry, I really don't mean to be rude or anything, but I can barely tell the difference between this update and before you started trying to saturate it. It still looks far too gray. Here's what I'm thinking of in terms of saturation, redness, and color: http://www.ezimba.com/work/150909C/ezimba11244530921600.png It doesn't have to be exact, of course, but it should be that kind of deep, rich red-brown. Jayie Unwritten words~ 06:16, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Now the base is literally neon red. And isn't the shade artists choice? I don't have to make it that dark if I don't want to- a shade wasn't even specified and I went by with an official dictionary's definition, which simply states red-brown, not dark or deep or rich or anything like that. And BTW I did tweak it after every comment. :/ And the "stripes"- they are somewhat part of the texture and somewhat not stripes? If that made sense. =P They aren't really there to make him look striped, they are there to help with the texture. I defined them as well. 07:09, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Deep doesn't mean dark. It means rich in color. Deep isn't quite a shade as it is a color. Honestly, the shade itself is artist's choice, but if it doesn't work, then it doesn't work. And I'm still not seeing a difference with the texture and the stripes... or stripped parts, or whatever they may be.

Although if he's red-brown... he shouldn't have stripes. Unless we're making all red-brown cats tabbies now???? There should be a cite for him being called a tabby on his page before stripes can be added. Auburn is red-brown, not orange/ginger.

You said so yourself that adding stripes to russets is optional? But I can remove it anytime though.... 08:53, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

That's because idiot me was thinking it was ginger, until I did research. Both russet and auburn are red-brown, not ginger.

Also, please point out where I said that, because I don't know??? Me asking if he had stripes on here doesn't mean it's optional...if you're taking something I said a long time ago from an ancient archive, please don't do that.

Re-uploaded It's not ancient =P It was when I was a SW... And yeah I just remember, I wasn't trying to dig out stuff, here 09:35, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

I said fox-red was, not russet or auburn. (mind you, I said I thought it was, not that I was 100% certain) Fox-red is a shade of ginger, (foxes look orange and I have never ever ever seen a literal red fox and all searches for "red fox" bring me to an orange-ish coloring) or at least that's what I was told, which is why Pinestar's one alt has stripes.

Much better. :) But I think it could still be more saturated, at the risk of sounding like a broken record. Jayie  Unwritten words~ 13:52, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re--uploaded Holy shit this looks insanely ugly right now compared to how it was before >.> 14:15, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

This looks amazing! Define the shading on the back legs? 23:52, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thank you! 02:21, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

...I hate to say this again, but more saturated? God, I feel so nagging, I'm really sorry, but I still feel like it's a little too gray. Also, the texture looks a little too light, perhaps, a bit like pale stripes. Not sure what to suggest for that. Jayie Unwritten words~ 05:23, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re-upped :/ Shade is my choice- it's honestly neon at the moment and I can clearly tell it's red-brown. 06:17, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by shade is your choice, but you have to follow the description of the cat, and this cat is described as auburn, which is, as I've said repeatedly, a very saturated, deep, rich red-brown, not just a sort of pale, unsaturated red-brown. Either something's up with your monitor, or you're only saturating one layer again and not the entire thing, because that charart is definitely not neon, or over-saturated, it still definitely has some gray in there. Here's my example again of the kind of saturated red-brown I'm talking about: http://www.ezimba.com/work/150909C/ezimba11244530921600.png. Like I said, you don't have to go directly off what I did, but please at least try to reach that level of saturated, pure color. Again, I'll shut up if no one else agrees and everyone else thinks I'm just nagging at this point, but your charart is definitely not neon, and I honestly think it needs to be more saturated. Jayie Unwritten words~ 06:39, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Withdrawn, the shade is bugging me too much and honestly this looks horribly ugly because of how it was tweaked. :/ And for the record- I went by w/ the proper dictionary definition which just says red brown but O.K I'm withdrawing 06:45, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Archiving 08:41, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Rockfall (W) - withdrawn
His name, though. Somehow, Doestar knew what the fate of a future RiverClan deputy would be. I also think the shading is leaking on the haunch, so don't comment on that, nor the lack of shading on --> ear with the ear pink. I'm going to tweak those once I've gotten a bit of sleep.

Could u add shading depth? Idk it looks a tad flat 08:56, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Define the shading on the front legs and tail a tad? 13:15, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded.

Could you define the shading on the neck a tiiiny bit? It might just be my screen, but I have to squint to see it. 23:12, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Withdrawing.

Archiving 08:41, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Redscar (Star) ~ Declined
oa was david, tweaked to make him reddish brown. i added a little bit of extra shading to the scar because it looked out of place after i changed the colour but i can lighten/remove it if people dont want it there 01:40 Tue Sep 1

Can you define the ear pink on => ear? Nice job, by the way. 10:52, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Given it wasn't especially visible in the original, and it's in shadow due to the light source and angle of the face + the inside of the ear, I'd rather not touch it. If someone else thinks it should be defined, though, I will. tysm btw 11:35 Tue Sep 1

Could you lighten it a little bit? The medicine cat looks lighter. BCPrincess73 (talk) 14:44, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I think you should lighten the earpink. 17:25, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded as requested by Berry.

The base colour doesn't match the medicine cat. It's too red... 23:21, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Still working? 23:28, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I am. I've come down with...idk, the flu or something, so I haven't had time to do much chararting. I'll reupload soon. 07:22 Tue Sep 8

This has been up for over a week. Sorry ;_; 08:26, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Sandstorm (A) ~ Declined
OA was Mounty. Tweaked to define shading and light source

Blur and lighten the shading a tad. i still say this didn't need a tweak but whatever 11:34 Tue Sep 1

tbh it passed, so that counts,. But yeah mind defining the tail shading? 11:59, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups omg I totally forgot about this!!

Smooth out the shading a tiny bit more for me, please?

Still working? 01:44, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, yea, but I don't have the files anymore so it's gonna take just a little bit.

This has been up for over a week. Sorry ;_; 08:26, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Frog (Ki) - Declined
Tweaked to add mottles. OA was Trunktail. Storm &#9835;  23:23, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the tail, please.

Also, he needs stripes. 18:04, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

reups Storm  &#9835;  22:21, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

define the mottles, i cant see any at all. HotTeacher69 (talk) 22:22, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading just a tad on the --> side haunch/hinleg. I can't even see the pattern through it 10:19, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can you define the paw shading? 17:48, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Still working? 23:28, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

This has been up for a week- declining.

Archiving.

Stonestar (D) - Declined
OA is Ashshadow and tweaker is Stoneclaw. Tweaked for flat shading. 23:24, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Define the light on the legs a tiny bit more.

Reupload You mean shading? I defined the shading cause it was still hard to see. 22:16, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

There's something off about the shading. I can't exactly put my finger on it but the shading on the neck looks a lot less blurred than the shading on the back and haunch. Do you mind thinning that part out? 02:16, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 22:54, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

No, I meant the light, not the shading. The legs look like they're almost all in shadow.

Reupload 04:31, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can you maybe get rid of some of the shading on the muzzle? His neck's supposed to be in shadow, not his muzzle. 17:49, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

And define the light on the tail? 18:31 Mon Sep 7

Reupload 22:09, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

the source is still a bit off. The muzzle itself shouldn't have any shadow at all- it should be the normal warrior/deputy source. aka, the one I use most commonly. The neck should be shaded and it should also go up on the top part of the head, by the ears. This way was a style that I used to use, and then I was told that it doesn't have a proper source and I needed to tweak it.

Reupload I pointed out the light source was a bit off during the nomination and someone told me it's fine. :/ so no idea what happened there really. I was just following the shading. 03:29, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Can you add some shading right where the throat slopes down? If I make any sense. If I don't ask me for a redline. 03:35, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Yes with the redline, I thought I have the throat covered. or I'm just tired XD 03:50, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

http://www.ezimba.com/work/150908C/ezimba12156977645100.png Sorry I had to screenshot my entire screen. Gyazo isn't working for me, and I don't know why. Anywyas the red part is where I think you should have shading. Sorry if its a nitpicky thing. You don't have to do it. But great work anyways :) 04:02, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Thnaks. :) I think that stretches the shading too far. I'd like a second opinion on it if no one minds. 04:15, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

You asked for an opinion, and she provided it. I fail to see the need for a second opinion when she's absolutely correct. The shading should go down the throat to about where Icy indicated.

Reupload 21:33, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

blur the throat shading some more. HotTeacher69 (talk) 22:31, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 23:01, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Smooth out the shading on the neck 11:09, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Reupload 21:58, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but this has been up for a week. Declining.

Archiving

Sandstorm (A) ~ Declined
OAs were Moonpelt and Mount Everest, with a tweak by Bramblesnow. Can someone archive Stonestar for me real quick lickity split thanks 00:09, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten the shading.

Reups 00:36, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

I'm really sorry Winter but this has to be declined. We both reserved the image on the main page and according to it's history, I reserved first. 00:39, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

That's not fair. I had it open for two minutes before reserving ;-; 00:41, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but if Stealth was first, then Stealth was first. A few minutes can make a huge difference, and it's "first come, first serve". It's totally fair, and I also checked the history and can verify her statement.

Cats of the Park Blanks ~ Withdrawn
They're so icky omgggg please rename them for me if I named them wrong? I'm no good at lineart

I'll fill them in and fix the longhair's leg in the next upload. ;-;

I suggest looking at the other blanks, you might pick up some good points. Maybe try drawing lines that helps show the muzzle, sorta like the cave-guard or leader. Just keep trying until it seems right. 06:13, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Round the tips of the ears and maybe make the eyes a little bit smaller. 07:18 Fri Aug 21

IDK but the (our) left leg on the short haired blank looks a bit too thin on it's staring point? (My vocabulary omg ;;) I think you get what I mean? 08:44, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

The muzzle looks a bit small. Try enlarging it? 09:06, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups I tried... The eyes looked like aliens >.> still very icky ._.

Maybe make the edge of the eyes a /little/ sharper? 11:26, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you make the lines thinner? 13:19, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

Could you enlarge the muzzle? 13:25, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

The lines don't need to be thinner, Burnt. They match the thickness on some of the blanks we have, and it's honestly fine.

Largen the eyes?  ~ Silver Cloud ~  16:25, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know, I think the lines should be thinner. Anyways can you space out the eyes a little? They look too close together. But you did an awesome job! 18:07, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

There's a couple of white pixels on the long-haired's left ear. Songheart (talk) 18:15, August 21, 2015 (UTC)Songheart

The eyes should have thicker lineart, and the eyes should be further apart and follow the curve of the face more. The chin should be more noticable as well. Nubface (talk) 18:33, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

The face is bent downwards at an angle. Right now, the eyes are facing forward with the same perception. If the muzzle where to be there, the eye on our left would have to be angled a bit differently, to make way for the shape of the muzzle. if that didn't make sense i'll try to explain it better 20:15 Fri Aug 21

Will this get declined if I'm gone for a week...? Because I'm going to my friend's house for a couple days.

No. A week without uploads on blanks is not fair. Blanks are a much different process than a normal image- I don't remember the timeframe we decided on, but if you don't upload for a week, you won't lose your blanks. I think we ended up picking two weeks...or something like that. Regardless, working on blanks is a very long process and there's no need to hold you to the same requirements as a normal image. It just wouldn't be fair, flat out.

Forgot to mention earlier, but the tail should be moved down a bit, especially on the shorthair. The tails rests on the ground and tends to curl around their front paws. Nubface (talk) 20:46, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't a little bit of the hindpaw be visible somewhat through the tail? 13:40, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Do you think this lineart is a little... Too big? Not gonna be rude. --ShellaxySpaniel (talk) 05:10, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

The size is fine tbh. There are other blanks the same size/bigger. Also, if you were talking about the lineart itself, the thickness of the lines is fine as there are other blanks with the same thickness of lines. 21:01, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

I think the lineart could be just a touch smaller and the lineart just a touch thinner, but that's just me. Also, the angle of the face looks a little off - it looks like, from the position of the cat, the head is titled a bit downward, but the face seems tilted too much upward. Also, the tail is a little too high up on the shorthair, it should be even with the front paws, at least at the base, since that's where it would connect to the back. May I offer a redline to help with anatomy and such? If not, that's cool, just offering. ^^ Jayie  Unwritten words~ 21:51, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Here's a friendly nudge to not forget to upload!

I honestly think the blanks should be scaled down slightly to match the sizes of our other blanks, because as it stands right now, they are the largest. The anatomy seems to be that of a kitten? I think that the rounded paws and round face shape give this appearance, if you go with slightly more defined shapes, it should help give more of an adult cat appearance. The long furred's fur seems to be a bit spiky, do you think you could lay it flatter to the body and have it follow the direction of the body as best as you can? And it might just be me, but the perspective at which the front of the cat is versus where the butt sits seems kind of off to me and looks kind of painful for the cat's spine. Do you think you could scooch the cat's hindquaters closer to the body? I'm not an anatomy expert, and some of my advice could be wrong, and in that instance, I may be disproven and I'm fine with that, but that's personally how I would draw the blanks if I were doing them myself. I hope I helped at all. 04:04, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

re-ups Now here's a thing, I was told to enlarge them (my original ones were way smaller) and the entire cat went crooked because I tried to redraw it. Pixelizing/scaling is a little too hard for me, or I could've been doing it wrong, and in that case can someone tell me how to do it? @Ivy, I tried my best for the fur... I kinda screwed it up. When I first drew the blank I copied exactly from an actual cat photo, so I'd like to get a second opinion on the hind legs. I lowered the short-haired tail, and I moved the eyes of both blanks down and a little more separated from each other. I hope I covered everyone I could, but if I missed something please tell me!

Could you still sharpen the eyes a little? 09:37, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Did you make the fur a little less spikey? --&#123;&#123;SUBST:Nosubst&#124;User:Russettail13/Sig&#125;&#125;. (talk) 13:27, August 29, 2015 (UTC)Russet

The fur seems fine to me - its long-furred anyways, if you're talking about the long haired blank. I hate to be pushy again, but could you maybe thin out the lines again? They just seem really thick, and I know I'm being picky for a blank with only 2 characters but... yeah. 15:09, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Can you add whiskers? Also, try making the muzzle a little rounder. Look at the other charart images for help. I think adding little lines in between the eyes and nose helps too. 22:23, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

I think that their eyes and nose need to be moved so it looks like they're looking down. Like these: http://i.imgur.com/Z8NJeuj.png http://i.imgur.com/EkxBgJv.png The muzzle is pointing downwards (well it looks that way to me) so the eyes should point downwards too. — ☆ ＦＩＲＲＥＬ  ★   ❝ ❤ ❞  16:12, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

You didn't largen the eyes.

 ~ Silver Cloud ~  01:37, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

She didn't upload yet. Give her a bit. 01:40, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

I'm so sorry, but I think I'd have to withdraw these... I don't have time of them because of school, and my laptop is taken by my parents. I might have time to work on regular projects with the school computers, but blanks are a lot harder. Anyone can take these over if they want, I'll even allow them to use them directly (although I'm not even a fan of them myself). I can come back to them later, but it's probably going to be ages.

I'll take over, unless someone else wants to. 12:52, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

You currently have a blank as a voting choice for the Early Settlers, Princess. Could we leave this for someone who does not have one there and hasn't had a chance to make a blank? Storm, Winter, Burnt, Fox? Or anyone else that does not have a blank on the Early Settler vote? (we don't know who will win and tbh having two at once would not be right) Would you guys like to give it a try?

Yeah, that makes sense. Someone else should do it. 13:09, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can I try? :D 13:21, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Gladly, if you keep the stance that Bramblesnow provided. That's what we voted on, so that's what'll stay.

Can I do two things at once? I have willow tail up right now...or does this not count as a reservation? 13:35, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

You can keep both at once- doing blanks are not the same thing as doing images. 13:37, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Did I do it right? 14:05, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Beautiful <3 Maybe make the ears bigger? 14:09, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Honestly, cats ears are not that big, so I don't think so ... 14:11, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, but the paws are bugging me. maybe make them a bit more, on the ground, instead on the tip parts of the paws? 14:16, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 14:25, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Separate the eyes a bit more. 18:35, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

can you make the tail a little bit fluffier? theyre supposed to be longhaird but theyre honestly barely thicker than the shorthairs. also the haunch looks oddly small, and the eyes maybe should be tilted just a tad so theyre not so totally front facing. the paws should be more on the ground too- the cats are putting their weight on them. HotTeacher69 (talk) 18:39, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups Honestly, the tail can be edited if the cat's tail is said to be predominantly more fluffy, like Feathertail. And I'm looking at my cat right now, comparing pictures to a shorthair cat and they're honestly not that much bigger. And the eyes aren't front facing, they're facing down already. 18:51, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can you make the the tail on the shorthair thicker? Also, extend the mouth some more. Curve the <<<< front paw some more near the chest and curve the chest on that side more as well. Extend the haunch just a tad outwards, right now it seems to be in an awkward position in relations to the front of the body. 1:29 Tue Sep 8

I actually think the tails could be fluffier on the long-haired, but in general, just a tad bit longer. Remember, what your cat looks like is just one of many many cute and adorable kitties in existence. I also think the lineart could be a tad bit thicker to match the styles of the other blanks.

All of the blanks on this site have lines that are two pixils thick. In some places it appears to have that, but in others it looks like it has either three or one, and you want to make sure not to leave entire black areas, such as the ears. Make one white pixil in the black to break it up. Just a little tidbit of advice from someone who made a blank from scratch and occasionally does pixil work on the side. This is shaping up very nicely and you're doing great! 02:20, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Define the muzzle shape. 10:16, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Reups QnQ blanks are hard 21:25, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

if the longhairs have ear fur in them, the short ones should too. HotTeacher69 (talk) 11:39, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Waste on the ear on the short hair 12:30, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

reups 13:02, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Try adding eyelashes on one of the two? (honestly there could be nothing wrong with eyelashes, but yea) ✣ H o n e y c l o u d ❈ ㅋ ㅋ

These are the male blanks. They do not get eyelashes Storm  &#9835;  12:41, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

The longhaired tail looks kinda weird with the one pixel wide solid line at the bottom of the tail. I presume it's supposed to be flat on the ground? If you could add some tufty parts of fur on the tail, that would be lovely. Also, there are places where it's still one pixel thick (like the paws, arms, ect) - they should be two pixels thick, as to match the other adult blanks.

reups 23:42, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

The foreleg that is closer to the haunches on both blanks is too much of a straight line. Tru curving it a bit instead of just a straight leg. 1:23 Sat Sep 12

Is it just me, or is the muzzle position a bit... Awkward? It doesn't seem to line up with the way the eyes are facing. 03:10, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

I think the muzzle is too round. Most cats have slightly more tapered muzzles. 13:50, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Withdrawing ;-; blanks are too much for me 13:58, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Might I take over? 14:04, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Willow Tail (R) ~ Withdrawn
Yo 01:13, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Darken the stripes a bit, and did you smudge these ones? They don't appear to be smudged on the kit.

i think theyre smudged minimally on the kit or something similar, but i think these stripes could be a bit darker to match better. HotTeacher69 (talk) 08:26, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 14:07, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. 17:50, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Reups 18:59, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can you give the shading some shape? I can hardly see it on the paws or face, and it seems to randomly appear in the middle of her body and on her hind legs. 11:30, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

I can see the shape just fine but maybe define the shading on the head and front legs Storm  &#9835;  20:29, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

I can't see th shape so I'm asking her to define it. 20:06, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

reups 23:44, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

Define the shading some more. 03:50, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Withdrawing as im taking a long break from here 12:37, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

Blossom (Lo) ~ Wtihdrawn
I can only remember those days of doing chararts in the computing room 03:33, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

prob just me but theres a random white streak on her tail and too bad ms left 03:34, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

It's actually supposed to be there. I think there's a white splash on the tail on her rogue image 03:37, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

do you want the xcf or are you fine? 03:41, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Sure. My email is thefoxgirl15@yahoo.com 03:43, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Thanks for the file! I redone this to make it match better. (now it looks so much better) 09:26, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten / blur the tail shading - whatever looks better for you. 22:55, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Lost the file ;; Withdrawn. 01:58, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Archiving 02:19, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Speckletail (K) ~ Wthdrawn
02:19, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

define earpink 02:59, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Honestly this was the best i could do without making it not match her other images. i also added highlights 08:51, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

So, I have the file for the warrior- Paleh gave it to me because I had initally planned on doing one of her images. Would you like to use it? I think it might be easier for you to get the colors, as Paleh's shading isn't easy to properly pick colors from.

The file would be helpful :) my email for wikia is thefoxgirl15@yahoo.com 10:24, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Withdrawing, I'll take this later if nobody else does 01:41, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Archiving 05:20, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Bramblestar (D) - Declined
OA is Bbun. If she wants it I'll drop this. Biased views these days suck. 12:18, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

"Biased views these days suck." Um, what? I fail to see how that comment has anything to do with the charart. Also, lighten the shading a bit and please crop the image so there's not so much dang waste on <-- side of the charart. It's a huge pet peeve of mine.

You also used the short haired blank 13:19, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded lol where did the rule of all comments 100% related to art come from. 13:34, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Lighten up the shading. Also, why are you being hostile when I was just asking what the comment was for?? =/

Re-uploaded sorry 13:42, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Move the ear hair more inside of the ear. These images should show a little bit of the hood/back/whatever you want to call it of the ear, and it looks odd and out of place the way it is now...add some shading to it. 13:49 Thu Sep 10

Re-uploaded Is this what you meant? 13:56, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Are you actually lightening the shading like I've asked?? I don't see any difference in the file history at all.

His chest on the apprentice isn't smudged. 18:49, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

The light paws are leaking onto the tail. 20:20, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re-uploaded I did lighten it- and shit the file won;t open so i did my very best to fix things stupid macbook gimp 13:52, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

Hrm, I'm not seeing a difference still... it could be Wikia not showing image changes again, hence why I asked. Could you upload to ezimba or another file uploader if you can access them?

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zxvequ&s=8 In the last few reuploads I lowered the shading opacity by at least about 10%, but now I don't have the file anymore, so i /tried/, but... 14:07, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

"Biased views these days suck" yea. I think I see a line inbetween his tail? Probably because of the short hair blank or smth if you know what I'm talking about

It looks like his paw markings were carried over from the warrior blank or something? They are partially inside the tail. 13:52, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Hi, keep all comments about the art and art alone, Bramble. That's been a rule in PCA long before many of the active members joined. I don't care if you think some of the views suck or anything- all comments are to be about the art. If there are issues, bring them up elsewhere, not here.

Re-uploaded oops 12:34, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Why are the pale parts still smudged? Or appear to be? They should not be smudged at all. 12:47 Sun Sep 13

It's mainly the shading- I did smudge the pale parts a little, but only to an extent where they look like they are blurred. like i said, i don't have the file anymore... So I'm not sure what i can do to if they need to be blurred more but idk. 13:19, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Do you want the file burnt? 22:51, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

I am going to be that person, but this shouldn't have been archived. Burnt, you need to reply to Icy here, not have Fox do it and then archive it. And honestly, the pale parts how they are do not match. They should not be smudged at all, and how it is now makes it look like it doesn't match.

And I thought I should also say that the stripes don't match in terms of style. Placement, they're fine, but it looks like these were smudged and/or blurred, and I don't think Icy did that on Bramblestar's other images.

Declined as per request 11:56, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

So wait, fox, are you taking over this or can I steal it for myself? 17:47, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

I'd like to try this first, please. 23:17, September 16, 2015 (UTC)