Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. G B 57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. G B 57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. G B 57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. G B 57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've improved her. How is she? G B 57 21:56, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Great! I don't see anything wrong :D. You did a pretty nice job. Sparrowsong 18:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be less circular and the shading needs to be darkened. --Hallow's Eve 09 21:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Blackclaw. Also, maybe try blurring the stomach-patch just a tad more. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Needs it's shading thickened immensely and blended. Ear pink could be toned down, but it mostly needs blurred some. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better, but go back, it looks like you blurred the line art or added black marks.Minnowclaw 12:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be more... intense Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the lineart. But Sandy, i don't get what you mean by "intense" <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Sandy, but I think she meant that it needs to be darker. (Sandy corect me if I'm wrong.)Minnowclaw 14:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well yes, that is kind of what I mean. It needs to be not just darker but a little thicker and blur it really well so it actually looks like shadows on his pelt. Some good examples of how the shading needs to look are Shadepelt and Rushtail's image which is currently up for approval. (I can't think of any more off the top of my head, sorry) It's not exactly just darker; it needs to look like a part of the pelt. I really hope that made some sense. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Done. I tried to fix it... <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 13:30, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

There should be more shading on the legs, and you might want to add a tiny highlight to the top of the herbs. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:24, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Try blurring the shading, and also, finish coloring in the far ear. After that, and doing what the above comments say, I'd think you're good to go. =) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

This has been up for a week now. Morningleaf please work on this or it will be declinded and we can't have something that is sooooo good and close to being done go to waste.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:48, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerpaw (SC) (A)- For Approval
Not much to say, I made him look like his kit version the best I could.  HA WK FI RE98  16:05, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Nice job! The ear pink's too bright for a brown cat though, and it needs blurred more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:18, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerstar doesn't have a kit version.... his stripes look much different than what you have here. -- Bramble -san  18:31, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Unless you meant this to be Tigerpaw (SC) in which case the stripes do look similar, but Bramble's right: Tigerstar's images have classic markings. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:52, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Dangit! *bangs head on computer* I can't do classic tabby. I might have to withdraw this.  HA WK FI RE98  19:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! Maybe I can change him to Tigerpaw (SC)! That would work, for Tigerpaw doesn't have a apprentice version.  HA WK FI RE98  19:08, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, Hawkey, it should be fine as Tigerpaw. But the ear pink still needs to be darker. Ice throat  21  19:44, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! I saw where Sparrowsong has Tigerpaw (A) (SC) reserved. Ice throat  21  19:54, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, *walks outside and screams* Okay, I will talk to Sparrowsong.  HA WK FI RE98  20:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

She said I can use it. :)  HA WK FI RE98  22:12, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. For the actual image, the ear pink needs darkened to a reddish color. There are plenty of approved dark-brown cats that are great examples. Ice throat  21  01:53, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Blur tabby stripes.Minnowclaw 23:21, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are fine. I've blended them the best I can, their just dark is all. Reuploaded.  HA WK FI RE98  00:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder and more... what's the word... I can't think so I'll say apart of the part. Sorry that I can't think of something better.Minnowclaw 12:07, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

That makes no sense whatsoever. Anyway, Hawky, if you make the ear pink just a bit more red, I'd be glad to approve this. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:30, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:01, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Aww, he's so cute! Just darken the shading a tad and he should be perfect. Sparrowsong 21:50, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

And blur ear pink. -- Bramble -san  22:17, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 00:36, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  01:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Whiteclaw (W) - For Approval
this is Whiteclaw. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:29, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

She is way too dark.Minnowclaw 14:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok hehe he is way to dark XD so make he light. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 14:56, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

ok hope this is ok. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:13, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

The eye needs fixed... Ice throat  21  21:44, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to specify on how to fix the eye, as well as mention a couple of other things, so, I'll say them now. The ear pink needs to be more triangular along with the shape of the ear, blurred some more, and also needs to be more of a reddish color rather than a pink color. And for the eye, go to for a diagram of how to fix the eye. Also, the transition between black and white with the paw needs blurred some more, and add some shading on the hind leg. And maybe run the dodge tool over the tail a couple of times, so it's not too much darker than the color of about the middle of the shading. (Sorry, I know it's a lot, and if I didn't explain enough please say so!) Ice  throat  21  23:58, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK....done. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:11, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reddish, not purplish. Go to the red section, not up by where the purple and hot pink section is. Also make it a little fuller and less slanted. -- Bramble -san  02:22, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

well it's red I don't like red ear...did I miss things? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:40, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

The lineart at the bottom of the right forepaw looks thin compared to the rest of the charart. Can you thicken it? I think you erased some of it while you were coloring it in. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 21:31, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

There needs to be a lot more shading; I can barely see any. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:27, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

I can see some shading, but it's been blended in a lot. Add some more where it's needed, and where you already have shading, sharpen it a little, make it stand out a teeny bit more. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 21:58, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

ok is this better? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:58, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

The shading looks fine to me. You need to blur the ear pink and line where the white forepaw joins the black fur though. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:02, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

can't say this is better but..done. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:40, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Crowfeather (App) - For Approval
Hereeeeeeeeeeeeee's Crowfeather as that annoying little apprentice when we first met him. Personally I loved his snobbish personality ^_^ and spunk. You know he was determined to do anything.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:09, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I don't see anything wrong. Great job! :) -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 20:47, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Same here, and I completely agree with you about Crowpaw! He's awesome! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 16:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Shimmerpool! Darken the ear pink to a more reddish color, blur the highlights some more, and it should be ready! And I agree with you and Stealthfire, Crowpaw's awesome! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:01, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks gray. Try making it more pink.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:09, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Tadpole (Ki) - for approval
= Well, here it is. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:49, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

So cute! Just darken the shading a little, and maybe make the nose a bit duller; right now it's bright pink. -- ♫ Ec ho mi st <font color="Teal">Talk/<font color="Indigo">Contribs 22:37, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink our left is good, but make the right one the same color.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:05, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Darkened Shading, fixed ear pink. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 19:35, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The nose pink is too bright right now. Try dulling it down a bit.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:47, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Troutclaw - for approval
*Sighs* I haven't grasped the consept of clasic tabbys yet. Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:38, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

This looks fabulous, Minnow! :D Only thing is that his eyes look like they're white... :-/ -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk/<font color="2A417D">Contribs 22:44, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby markings look too much like Jaypaw's-- ♥Sha dow edh eart♥  23:58, October 20, 2009 (UTC)

Echomist: Silly me, the eyes are white. But it's 6:30am for me, so i'll do it after school. Shadowheart: That's because I did Jaypaw, so I used the same style, not the smae exact markings.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 10:38, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps change the file name so it adheres to the actual image? -- Bramble -san  22:17, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I'm soooo sorry about not getting to this! I have had so many things to do and am so stressed. I will get to this very soon.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:50, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I changed the eye color, and fixed the name. I know it says the, but it stands for Troutclaw elder in my own way.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:54, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

In your own way, but not a way where anyone else can know what the image is without clicking on it and finding out. Could you please change the file name to either Troutclaw (E) or something that lets us know it’s Troutclaw? But it looks great. Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  23:15, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Cora (R) - For approval
Here she is? Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 01:57, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

This is very nice, Hawkfire! Although, you could thicken and darken the shading; I can barely see it. Also, the ear pink is much too bright for a black cat and could be blurred some more. It looks great, otherwise! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 19:49, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For approval


(M) - Not much to say about these. First blank I've made where you can see both sides of the face and such, and probably the last blank I'll do for a long time. Will make a colored version over the weekend. (Maybe.) Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute. But their bellies and legs look.. weird. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

A few things though...What i think could be improved  How I would do it..... Feel free to remove this or disregard it if i'm wrong, but its lineart looks a bit odd only in this area. Summary of it: The arm has odd, unnecicary lines, the showing hind leg goes a bit up, or thick, the stomach area is oddly shaped, and the eye is a bit odd... But its fabulous in the rest.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 00:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks a little disproportionate--AutumnSky 02:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made a example and changed up the lineart a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just to let everyone know, I'm still working on these. Please don't decline. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I really wanna see these improved, so if you need help re-lining them, i made this. And a colored version of my cat, speedy.The colored version looks terrible because i didnt shade it. Dont criticize it...<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Molepelt - Up for Approval again
Well, I'm sorry everybody. I was in hospital, I was sick, and discharged just yesterday. So, here is Molepelt again.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:49, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

There's a couple of pixels on the face that should be dark-gray like the fur instead of green, and shading is too dark. It needs to have different colors along the way from the outside to the inside of the cat. Black, really dark gray, dark gray, fur color, and then blend, or something along those lines. Right now the shading is really messy, and too dark on the outside of the shading. Also, I hope you're feeling better now. We're glad to have you back. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:41, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Hussar - For approval
Place the ear pink in the center of the ear, so it's not touching the side, and blur it, taking care not to hit the lineart. The shading is much too thick; blur its transition. Also add shading on the legs; blur as well. Put a white highlight in the eye; you can look at Moss's example image: to see how to do the eyes. Other than that, not bad for your first go. -- Bramble -san  22:23, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: --Evanphoto 00:53, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Hi Evanphoto! I'm so happy about the talent my new apprentice has! Try blending all of the pelt a little more and add some shading on his right rear leg.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 01:44, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Gorsestar (L) - For Approval
Okay, my first charart. Sorry if i'm doing something wrong. X3 And perhaps I shouldn't have started with a Tabby... :/ Okay, I'm ready for the critique! (And yes, sorry but I couldn't figure out how to get the background transparent. XP) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 00:48, October 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * WOW I like this XD the left ear pink is on the line art a bit. and the left leg at the top the dark bit is going out of the line art an bit. and with the head you see the line like a bowl (sort of) try and put a bit of shading under it. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:04, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. And is it just me, or does my attempt at shading resemble a collar? XD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:30, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

lol yeah maybe a bit try looking at Vinestar. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:33, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:40, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

nice one more thing on the new bit on the left it's gone over the line art Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:42, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color;White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 11:55, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is impressive for your first Charart, Shigura! Just a few things - first of all, the ear pink is a little too circular (it should be more triangular-shaped, and kept inside the ear lineart). The nose should be colored in pink (for a grey cat, it should be a dull grayish-pink color). The tabby markings should be thinner (maybe make them with a size 3 brush), there should be a lot more of them, and they should be blurred into the pelt just a bit. Lastly, darken the shading a bit, especially on the head to make it look more 3-dimensional. As for the transparent background, I did it for you (I hope you don't mind). -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 12:34, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I couldn't get the thick stripes off Gorsestar without making him look dumb, so I started again with the Gorsestar picture I had with just the shading. I tried doing stripes like the one on the Birchstar picture. Are they any good? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 20:22, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I forgot to do the nose. Silly me. XD Any other critique besides the fact the nose is white? XDD <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 20:26, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry for triple-posting, but I re-uploaded, this time with the nose colored in. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 22:54, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

No, good job Shigura!-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Umm.. did I upload it wrong? For some reason the image keeps reverting back to the white-nosed picture! Or is it just me? D: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 20:00, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

That's only in the boxes of all the previous images. If you look at the actual image up top, not in the boxes, you should see the updated image. I've wondered about that, too, but I know that the uploaded image is visible on the top, the one the full size and not in the box. For the actual image, it looks lovely, but you might want to add some shading between the two ears on the head. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:28, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Any more critique? :3 <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 00:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Add some shading on the left (our left, Gorsestar's right) side of the head, like you did on the other side. Otherwise, great job! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:47, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 00:59, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Patchpelt (E) - For Approval
This has got to be my worst two-colored cat...Mousepaw was much better. I tried to fix the shading between the black and white, but it looks really messy...any sugestions? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:20, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

You may want to change the ear pink to less of a hot-pink. More like a natural pink.Other than that, it's beautiful!-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 14:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I love the dodge tool. It made making the ear pink lighter much easier. :) So, anything else? How's it look now? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 15:27, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Darken all the shading and make the ear pink a little more natural.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:50, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened and thickened the shading. I tried to blur the shading, but it doesn't look too well...suggestions? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:33, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Well? I know that you said to darken the shading, Minnowclaw, but now it looks too dark. Everyone: do you think I should lighten the shading some? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:24, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Well, ya, your right. Can we get someone else in here for their opinion?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 00:59, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I think you should lighten the shading... but just slighly. Also, you should probabaly try to blur the black spot on Patchpelt's chest. Also, I see a little black 'c' near that spot. Is that supposed to be there, or is it not? o.o <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 01:03, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

The "c" is part of the lineart. And for lightening the shading, I'll get to it after school tomorrow, hopefully. I have a busy night tomorrow, so...but I should be able to get to it tomorrow or the day after. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:01, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Wing Shadow over Water- (for approval)
One of my last few images as an apprentice. How is it-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 23:24, October 23, 2009 (UTC)?

We never saw Wing as a to-be, only a kit-mother and a prey-hunter. Since we do have prey-hunter blanks, it'd be best to do Wing on the correct blank. The image is lovely, but it'd be better if you used the correct blank. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Changed to a prey hunter, thanks, Icethroat!-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 13:27, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Great! The image looks fabulous! The only thing that immediately strikes me is that I can barely see the ear pink, so maybe darken it just a little bit, but not too much. Great job, Shadowedheart! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 13:43, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

ReReuploaded! Darkened ear color! Thanks again, Ice!-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey

Darken the shading more.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:57, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

ReReReuploaded Darkened shading!-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:19, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! I can see nothing wrong now. Great job, Shadowedheart! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:57, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Very good job! All I see is that the ear pink could be blurred just a tad more, and you need mud streaks (cause they're tribe cats). After you put in the mud streaks, just blur it into the pelt. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 21:45, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you have added mud streaks. I see nothing wrong. Good job!-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:49, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Looks great, Shadowedheart! Maybe add a mud streak on the tail, and it should be ready. Good job! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:15, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I added everything. Sorry I didn't write here in a while. My computer would freeze before i would ever get to even type in a word.--<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:10, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

No worrys, it's only been a day. I think that she is perfect. -- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:43, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reedwhisker (W) for approval
Not much to say. comments? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:39, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

You may want to blur the shading alot, and lighten the black just barely.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 13:28, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, blend the shading, and also, his eyes are green. Not blue. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 13:45, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and make the shading blured and bigger.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:55, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading and ear pink, but the reason why I didn't change the eye color is because his discribtion said blue and I don't remember reading that he had green. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:17, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is fine now, but you need to make the shading thicker.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:47, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Done. What else? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 21:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Nothing that I can see, good job Spottedwing.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:02, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Kit-Mother Blanks ~ For Approval


How do you like my suckish artwork? xD Gawd, I need a tablet... The example is better than the blanks: <BR> Comment/Suggestios? (Suggestions OTHER than leaving the drawing to experts? xD)-- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh..my..staclan..THIS IS SO CUTE! I love the way she's staring at you like "I'm not fat!" The only thing I could say is that the head looks, a bit small-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I'll make the head a little bit bigger. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:26, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Heads are bigger by a tad. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

it look a bit odd..what is she doing? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if Apprentices are allowed to critique, and I love the blanks, but there are a few spots that look a bit... out of place. XD The paw near the Kit-Mother's head looks a bit flat, and the tails could be a smidge wider, but that's all I see. (: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 21:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Everyone's aloud to critique. That's part of the learning experience, being able to say what's wrong with a picture. :) Mumble: I agree with Shigura, the paw looks flat, and the tail could be a small bit wider. And also, the tail on the shorthair could maybe brought to the left a little bit, so the bottom of the lineart on the tail is at the same curve as the bottom lineart of the tail on the longhair, giving a curve that makes it more natural. Otherwise, great job, Mumble! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but the muzzle is a little thick, that shouldn't be too hard, methinks. You put queen blanks up a while ago, right? You've really improved ^^.-- Darkhallows 07:34, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The neck looks fat.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darkhollows: Yes, I did. :) I think I tryed a freindly blanks war with melon! xD Thank you! ^-^<BR> Bramble: She's laying down while looking at you. :P Yeah, not very well-thought-out position...<BR> Everyone who offered suggestions: I'll do that. How would I make the paw look less flat? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the paw more curved, like she's trying to swat the air? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 18:14, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Icewing(W) For approval
The first white cat I've had up for approval...Anything to fix?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 15:33, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

This is wonderful, Bracken! But, she looks a bit bluish. Make the shading more of a pale gray. Great job, though! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Great job, Bracken! But I have to agree with Hawktalon, the image looks more blue than white. And also, the ear pink needs to be more in the middle of the ear rather than on the edge of the ear like it is now. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:04, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Aren't we supposed to wait until TFA comes out before we make the TFA characters? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 18:12, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, sorry, Bracken. Otherwise, Foxleap wouldn't have had to be withdrawn. Sorry, Bracken. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:19, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

wait, before I withdraw this, are there any other white she-cat warriors?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:58, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

here's Icewing now--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 19:00, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

re-uploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink and bluish-color still need fixed. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:11, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 18:54, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Much better! There's some blurred lineart on one of the front legs, though. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Icecloud (A) - For Approval
Well, now that Bracken has his Icecloud warrior version up for approval, the warrior version looks much better than this apprentice version. :) But I really wanted to try a pure-white cat. So, how did I do for my first white cat? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:01, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

...now that I've made this image, I've realized that Bracken made Icecloud a longhair instead of a shorthair. Can someone change this to a longhair for me? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. I think I'll keep this as a shorthair, unless anyone has any problems with keeping this shorthair. So...comments and suggestions? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blur all the shading.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:45, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred all the shading. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:07, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

This looks really good. Maybe you should smudge the shading a little and then blur it to smooth out the line. Ashshadow 18:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I did what you said to, Ashshadow, but I'm not sure if it helped any or not... Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:15, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

It helped its just hard to get rid of a hard line on a white cat. I'm working on my next charart for when Daisy gets approved and the shading on the white taking a really long time to blur. Maybe try it a few more times. Ashshadow 19:40, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I didn't want the entire picture to be silver from the shading, so instead what I did was highlight part of the shading, and then blurred. Does it look any better? -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:57, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Much better. You're really good. Ashshadow 20:06, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  23:21, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Floss - For Approval
I don't know how to make the background transparent (I don't think you can make things transparent on Pixlr). Anyway, this is my first loner and patched cat. How does she look? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 20:56, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Nice! I don't see anything wrong. :) Also, I know how to make the image transparent; would you like me to do it right now? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 21:01, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Sure, no prob! Thanks! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 21:08, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Here, now she's transparent. You're welcome :). -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Teal">Talk♦<font color="2A417D">Contribs 21:54, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful, Hawktalon! Add a small bit of shading on the back (where the spine is) and she should be ready. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:21, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:30, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Added shading to the back. Minnowclaw, I tried darkening the shading, but it looked, well, too dark when I did. So, I just kept the image as it is now. Should I darken the shading anyway? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:39, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The shading doesn't need darkened. You just need to use the burn tool once on the spine, and then blur to add some shading on the back. Then, it should be fine. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I see the shading on the back now. Sorry, I didn't see it before. :) You might want to darken the shading on the back, though, or make it a little thicker. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:44, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Darkened the back shading. Better now? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 21:40, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, much better. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:05, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I say she's ready.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:21, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  23:21, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Ravenpaw - for approval
?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 13:22, October 25, 2009 (UTC)


 * The ear pink looks a tad too big.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:29, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Better?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 13:45, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

He should have a small white dash on his chest and green eyes. Also, thicken the shading, I can barely see it. It looks great, otherwise! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 16:42, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that! Better?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 00:34, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Much better. But, right now the white dash is on his stomach and not his chest and is a little too large. Try looking at Ravenpaw's apprentice image for reference on the size it should be. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 19:21, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, silly me. Is this better?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:25, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

A dash, not a patch. Make it look like someone flecked him with a small paintbrush. And his eyes are supposed to be green, not blue. -- Bramble -san  23:22, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Better?-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 23:40, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Daisy (Q) - For Approval
My first charart. Can someone change the background to transparent because I dont think it is. Ashshadow 13:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The picture is way to big. I can fix that for you if you want.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 13:50, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Minnow. I wasnt sure how to fix it. Ashshadow 13:56, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I am trying, but it just won't work sorry.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thats okay. I fixed it. Ashshadow 14:27, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, for the image. WOW! I can't see anything! Great job!-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:29, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I was pretty happy with this, but theres something about the eye that looks strange to me. Ashshadow 14:35, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Eyes always look odd.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 14:39, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Try looking at another queen's eyes for how to do the eyes. Otherwise, this is great for your first charart! Great job! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:10, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I looked at Feathersrorm's eyes. I think it looks better now. Thanks for all the nice comments =) Ashshadow 17:29, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Great! Thicken the shading on the belly and back a little and it should be ready. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 17:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Ashshadow 17:55, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but the shading you added needs blurred, so the line between the colors isn't as hard. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred the shading some more. Is there anything else? Ashshadow 19:28, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Add some shading on the top of the head in between the two ears. Not much, though, just a litle bit. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:42, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

There is shading. Should I darken it a little? Ashshadow 19:55, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yep; just a touch. Then he should be good. -- Bramble -san

Reuploaded Darkened head shading. Ashshadow 23:27, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  23:21, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Stonestream (E) for approval
My first elder. Comments? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 23:41, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading thicker and blur it. Also, make the ear pink redder and blur it more.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 00:27, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

He's very good! But he seems dull and boring. Try adding some highlights, and blur the shading a little more. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 00:29, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Jingo- For Approval
I have to say, I'm quite fond of Jingo. -- Darkhallows 19:30, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Oh my gosh, Darkhallows, this is beautiful! I see absolutely nothing wrong! Wonderful job! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Purple; ">Hawktalon Talk 21:54, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

(Cries from too much awesomeness) Wow! This is truly amazing! Nothing here.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 22:20, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  23:21, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

Barley - For Approval


Always liked Barley, personally. Glad we'll be seeing him in upcoming Ravenpaw's Path manga. Constructments? -- Bramble -san  02:05, October 27, 2009 (UTC)