Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Loner Blanks - For Approval


(M) - I did more of a Melonlemon-style with these blanks and I'm pretty happy with the way they turned out. I also made an example (The shading might be in the wrong places though.)



Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

These are great! Give the muzzle a bit more of a stop and the ears look weird... but I really like them. - Darkhallows Lair 22:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

this looks really good Mosswhisker! but since they're loners ,wouldn't the fur be a bit scruffier?-- ☆Darkkeh☆ uh...hi 22:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

For some reason the head looks a bit small to me... but they look great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 23:35, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Mosswhisker... you're amazing at making blanks! There are only a few things that I can say about these. Firstly, the neck looks a bit too thin, almost pinched, maybe you could make it a bit thicker. Also, I think there should be a bit more definition between the neck and the foreleg, it looks a little too smooth to me. These are incredible, though! ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 23:39, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks guys! I'll change them tomorrow, after school. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 00:03, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Okay! I changed the muzzles so they have a stop, fixed the foreleg, and fixed the neck. (All I did was shorten it, and I think that helped.) I also didn't know what was wrong with the ears, but I did make them less pointy. I didn't change the fur because it's pretty scruffy as it is, and Loners wouldn't be a scruffy as Roughes. I didn't change the head size becuase when I inceased in by a mear 2 pixles, it looked waaay to big. I also got rid of the gray lines on the longhaireds. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:35, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

The ears look a little small. Can you make them a bit bigger? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:19, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

The toes on their paws look a little weird... could you change them? -- Rain whisker 09 20:22, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Changed the toes and (even though it's hard to see) widened the ears. I also changed the shape of two of the paws a bit. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:55, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think there great. I just think that the eyes are a little small. Other then that I hope they get approved before long. --Spottedwing 02:05, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know..the eyebrows look awkward?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think the whiskers are a little short. But they're great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 12:05, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'll fix these tomorrow. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:55, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few things - Don't get me wrong - i think that these are good, and I know that you've put a lot of effort into them. I'm just trying to help. -- Dawnfeather talk! 06:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * The legs are all different lengths. Tey get longer and longer towards the right of the image. The front paw which is bent in the action of walking should be shorter than the others, (because it is bent and therefore not at it's full length) but at the mkoment it is too long.
 * The body is slanted downwards (towards the front of the cat) This may look okay as you finish up the image without being adjusted, but you can have a go at making it more evn if you want to.
 * The ears looks to thin. Don't change the height right now, but have a look at the ears. Also, the back one should probably be on the other side. maybe just fiddle around a bit.
 * The muzzle - it just looks weird to me, no offense. Lots of it is out of proportion and place just within that small space. Open up an approved blank and these, and carefully chck the face, moving around the pixels until they look similar-ish.

(M) - I fixed zeh whiskers. I didn't change the eyes because I couldn't get them to look right, and I don't know what you mean by "eyebrows".
 * Thanks Dawn! I'll fix those things tomorrow. (I'm suffering from chronic lazyness right now.) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  21:52, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Lol, sorry Moss. I thought the whiskers were eyes, and the eyes were eyebrows.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:46, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the whiskers should be a bit far apart. That's why they looked like eyes to me. (no offense)–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:28, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the paws and the ears. I'll fix the rest soon. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:12, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like their far rear leg goes through the pelt.*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:48, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't know how to word it, so thank you, Swallowtip. ;) Otherwise, these look great!  Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:19, September 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * The hind legs are kind of overlapping, if you know what I mean...–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:11, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the legs and the whiskers. I can't get the muzzles to look right Dawn; could you maybe make me a diagram? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:05, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - What else do I need to fix besides the muzzles? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Their hind end looks slightly higher than their font; like they're coming down from a hill. Balance those out, and also make the hind paw that's lifted curl slightly outwards, if you know what that means. It'll look more natural. -- Bramble -san  23:03, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Could you move the eyes and whiskers down a few pixels? And maybe make the eyes a little bigger.-- Darkhallows My den 23:45, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

there is a line on their leg hind leg that is driving me nuts.Minnowclaw 01:45, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

The longhairs fur-tufts seem to go a little too far down the legs.-- Darkhallows My den 05:00, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'm going to work on these this weekend. (School has eaten my free time and is using my relaxation as a toothick. >_< ) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  19:34, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - See, I'm not dead! xP I fixed the tufts, moved the eyes and whiskers back a few pixles, and fixed the bodies so they're leveled out (Dawnfeather actually commented on this, and then I completely forgot to fix it, which shows just how much I pay attention. -_-;;; ) I tried to fix the eyes, but then they looked too big. Sorry! Also, that line is the haunch, and I didn't know how to curve the paw back; could you explain that a little more Bramble? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:16, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Well, kind of like this little guy here See how his back paw sort of curves backward, because he just took it off the ground? -- Bramble -san  22:22, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Lovely, mossy. But on the short-hairs, on the back of the paws there no claw like the long-hairs... And there's really something btohering me about the eyes... There really, really small...--Warrior♥ Warrior's Den 18:57, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thank you Bramble; wonderful pic! I fixed the paws. Warrior♥, I should have the changes you mentioned fixed by Thursday. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

The head does look small in proportion to the body. It looks fine in all of the other departments, though. --Sandiwolf 02:24, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - That actually isn't a dewclaw; it's just a tuft of fur. Origonally it was a dewclaw, but then I realized you wouldn't see that on a cat unless you were very close to them, so I changed it to a fur tuft.

As for the eyes, I decided that I would keep trying to fix them until I got them to be bigger. So I opened Pixlr and got it right on my first try this time. O.O Now, the eyes look a little strange when they're not colored in, but I made a colored example of Husker to show you guys what they look like when they're colored in. There are actually two different ways you can do the eyes, but I prefer this style.



Also, I'll fix the heads soon. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 01:37, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I've fixed the heads. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:33, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

The still look a litle off-blanaced; the hind end looks too high up, as if they're tilted forward, and the very back leg looks too high off the ground. Also; on the farthest back legs, I know you're trying to show toes, but the curves look odd; try taking them out. Other than this, I'd say they're ready. -- Bramble -san  22:15, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks Bramble! I will get to these soon (Sunday at the latest) Also, I am going to do Crookedstar as a deputy and the kittypet blanks; first I have to get done with these. So ... yea. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:00, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - All praise weekends! I took out the paw curves and fixed the backs. I didn't change the leg becuase it looked very... awkard when I did. What else should I fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:36, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I think these are ready. Awesome job, Moss. Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  23:49, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

The rear left leg looks like it goes throught the hip. Minnowclaw 21:34, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

What does that mean? Would you mind elaborating some more, Minnow? -- Bramble -san  02:21, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Yes, please elaborate some more. That's the haunch, so I don't know what exactly you mean. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:25, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

The body sort of looks like a... box. Maybe make the chests or backs more round?  Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 21:47, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Birchstar (RC)for approval
My first leader and my first tabby. Comments? --Spottedwing 00:42, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Here are a few things: It mostly just needs shading. The ear pink looks fine, and so does most of the tabby stripes. Otherwise, I think it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:16, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Needs shading. If it's there, I can't see it.
 * The nose pink is too bright, it's more of a hot pink rather than just a pink. Try to lighten it some. But from the pictures I was looking at on Google images, brown cats tend to have either brown or black noses, depending on whether they're multi-colored. Try changing it to just a lighter shade of brown from the color of the fur.

The tabby stipes need to be longer in most cases and more varied. Add shading and blend it well. Lighten the nose pink. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:34, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Redid the image. Made the tabby stripes longer, fixed nose and ear pink, and added shading. Is there anything else? --Spottedwing 02:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Still needs thicker and darker shading. Then blend it for natural transitions. As for the stripes - make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:36, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

What do you meen by regular?--Spottedwing 02:27, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

um... regular. i'll try and think of another way to describe it lol. bear with me. Make the different lengths, shapes and sizes. That would make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:29, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Made the tabby stripes longer and darker. Added more shading. I really don't know what to think of it. Is it better? Worse? --Spottedwing 00:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the tabby stripes a bit more.*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 01:39, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Also, more shading is needed. Thicken it slightly and then blend. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to her as soon as I can. My life has been busy since school started, so I'll try to get to her during the weekend. --Spottedwing 16:14, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thickened the shading and the tabby stripes. --Spottedwing 19:33, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 17:28, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Your tabby stripes are too few and far between. They also are too thick and they all look alike. Put in some more and vary their length and look; I know warriors are a different pose but you can look at the approved tabbies for reference if there are no leader tabbies approved. Your shading also needs to be increased, slightly thickened, and the transition then needs to be blended thoroughly. -- Bramble -san  23:00, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Redid the tabby stripes. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:03, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I like them now.Minnowclaw 01:40, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading and blend it in.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:46, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Added shading on her left side and I blended it in as much as I could. How does she look? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:49, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - She needs some shading under her chin. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:39, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 18:53, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Move it up so it's right against the chin line. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't really liking the neck shading, so I blended it in more. How does she look? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:37, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the neck shading.Minnowclaw 00:58, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to her as soon as I can. It's homecoming week and its making me busy. Please don't decline. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:32, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? Wow I say 'Hows this?' alot. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 20:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the stripes more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 21:02, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Done! How does she look? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 01:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good. Just a few things left. Add a few more tabby stripes on her haunch, but be careful to make it not looked cluttered in that area. Thicken and then thoroughly blend her shading; the shading on Cloudstar is a good example. Lighten her ear pink just a touch, and make sure they are triangular and blended. Add some tabby stripes and put shading on the belly area inbetween the forelegs and again blend the shading thoroughly. Put a few slightly varied colors of the same base eye color in the eye, to make it look more life-like. Not to boast, but you can use my fursona on my user page for an example. A few darks, a few lights, and a saturated pixels. Be careful on her neck shading; don't make it too thick, and make sure to blur it hard. More shading around her head; forehead, cheeks, etc. Again blur. Add some more tabby markings on her tail, as well. -- Bramble -san  02:44, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Added more tabby stripes. Fixed the eyes, did all I could to the shading without messing up the tabbystripes, added shading and tabby stripes to the belly, added face shading. Did I miss anything? --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 01:03, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

All the shading is a little too light.Minnowclaw 12:44, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 15:53, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Molepelt (MC) For Approval


My first image. Criticism welcome. Also, I'm not going to be on much these days, so please do not decline this.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:53, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think the ear pink is to big, and maybe to dark fur? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:07, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

yES LIGHTEN THE FUR TO MAKE TO MAKE THE EYE STAND OUT (Oops caps)--Stonestar 14:37, September 13, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Lighten the herbs and perhaps make them more of a green colour - I'm not sure a medicine cats is likely to use withered plants... Lighten the fur a little and make sure to add a pupil and highlight into the eye. Look at some approved images for reference. The ineart is blurred and there is colour outside of it in places. When you've sorted that, then we'll talk shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:47, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better? I tried adding the pupil, but I don't know if it's right.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 06:21, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think this is a lot more good, I can see the whiskers now :) I'm not sure but I think the eye colour sould be more big? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:43, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Meaning?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:45, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've not done a medcat, so I'm not sure if the eye can be biger or not :/ but I mean I can't see the pupil but maybe if you did more colour in the eye you could make the pupil biger, (sorry I'm so bad at spelling) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:06, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, wait a bit.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:13, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Anything else? Sandy, how much shading is needed?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:41, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

perhaps make the eye colour brighter--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 04:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Needs a highlight in the eye. Just put a white pixel on the left side of the pupil. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 20:59, October 7, 2009 (UTC) 12:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:47, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading a lot more, and also, look at Brambleclaw's deputy charart, for example, to see how the eye needs to be done. Otherwise, it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:20, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:35, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thin the shading out a bit and make sure it extends all the way down his back. Also, can you use the dodge tool (um... the one that looks like a circle on a stick) to add a highlight to the top of the herbs. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:03, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. What else? Impatience is the new life,(lol) so how much time does it take for an average image to be approved? I've uploaded this around 10 times. Do not take this statement very seriously.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:35, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

'Patience is a virtue' - I forget who said that. It takes as long as it takes. That's better but now to the same with the other shading on the chest and hindleg curve and then blend! blend! blend! Careful not to smudge the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:32, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Lolz. Impatience is the new life is the punchline of an internet company.. Reuploaded. Did the same to the chest and the hind leg. –– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 07:13, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is good but move the hind leg curve shading closer to the leg.Minnowclaw 01:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:36, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Go back and blur it.Minnowclaw 00:57, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. –– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:48, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, so sorry for not commenting Lightning (I'm a rubbish mentor at the moment - same goes for you Hawkey - I'll try and be around more). As for the image, there are just a few things that need sorting. Make the ear pink ore triagular and definitely a darker colour as he's a black cat and the ear pink shouldn't show up so much. Look at some approved black cats for reference (I'd reccomend Nightcloud, Whitethroat, oh there are loads now!) Then you need to work on the shading a bit more. It looks like you've used the smudge tool - try and make sure the consistency of the shading is the same all over and then blend the edges carefully towards the middle of the pelt a bit with the blur tool. Be careful again not to hit the lineart. One last little thig - the eye is very bright green, could you possibly find a slightly more leafy green? Something not so similar to the herbs perhaps. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:50, October 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:56, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

I think you should blur the hind leg's shading more. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 20:59, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - This hasn't been worked on in over a week. Please work on this soon or it will be declined. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:29, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Barley (R) - for approval


This is Barley as a cat in BloodClan, and my first character art. I don't care if it looks great, this is sort of a practice anyways. Anything to improve?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  03:47, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

It needs shading (the burn tool should be good for that), the black patch on his belly needs to be bigger, as there needs to be a balance between the black and white, and his eye needs a white pixel. Also, his ear pink needs to be blurred. Right now, it looks circular, and it needs to look triangular-ish, like the shape of the ear. Otherwise this it good for your first charart! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 13:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Barley is long furred.Minnowclaw 14:30, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

You sure? It just says he's a black and white cat. I'll make the changes, though.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  20:25, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  21:02, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

It's not long haired and yes i'm sure he's long haired. Ravenpaw is a short haired and if you look at any of the mangas where they are shown together, Barley has longer, thicker fur.Minnowclaw 23:46, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

To change him to long haired, you have to change blanks. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:04, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Barley is now a longhair.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  03:40, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Better. Try to make the patches more irregular.Minnowclaw 23:30, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  02:23, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Try to make the patches more odd a to smooth. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:42, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the shading. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 21:27, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs to be thicker and only in the places where there would be shadows - take a look at the image and actually think about where your shading needs to be. At the moment it's just hugging the lineart all the way around with the effect that it just looks like a second lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:37, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been touched in a week.Minnowclaw 12:15, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

lol forget what I said XD Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 18:14, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I'm getting to it, don't worry. I'm very busy!--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:11, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  19:34, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at some other patched cats like Rowanstar on how to do the patches.Minnowclaw 23:22, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Err... Minnowclaw, Rowanstar's image was declined. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 14:51, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I looked at Brightheart's patches.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  17:22, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Blackclaw: I typed the wrong this. Shafgirl: They are more wigly. (Terible word).--Minnowclaw 00:34, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

The shading is too dark. Otherwise, he's not bad at all :). Sparrowsong 01:45, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I made the patches a bit more "wigly" and the shading lighter.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:22, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

I can see nothing wrong with this. Wonderful job, Shaf. Comments before approval in 24 hours? <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:27, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks - Withdrawn


My first blanks! I'm pretty happy with the way they look. I made an example, Rusty, and I didn't have any problems with it. The only issue is their tiny size - does anyone know how to make them bigger without completely re-doing them?-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 23:39, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

These are good! You need to make them bigger so that it will be easier to draw. Also, with the tuffs of fur on their feet, it looks like they're on high heels.Minnowclaw 23:44, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Echo, but Mosswhisker had these on her current projects long before you did. They do look pretty good, maybe you can turn them into something else and put them up. I would hate for them to go to waste. If so, just change the name on this section and put for approval in place of declined. -- Bramble -san  01:50, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe they could be Kits? then the size is all right. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:49, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

What kind of kits? We already have kit blanks. How about ancients? Increase the size maybe...–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:27, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Stupid me, I didn't see Mosswhisker's reservation. >.< I changed them to sharpclaw blanks and got rid of the collars. Also, how do you make their size bigger without doing them over? Frankly, I have no idea... -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 12:40, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Kitypet kits :) But they are Shatpclaws now Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:19, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

We're only having one set of kit blanks as all kits look the same. My first reaction to these is that they look very scrawny, especially on the legs. Thicken them up a bit and give them some strong sharpclaw muscles! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:05, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I think the backs look too....... flat <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:22, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Morningleaf, the backs need to be curved out some. Ice throat 21  02:24, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Redlined it for you, well green lined... Anyway, thicken the legs and curve the back.-- Darkhallows My den 07:44, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

These have been up for more than a week. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:21, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Rains right, 9 days.Minnowclaw 12:13, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I know; my life is pretty hectic right now, and I won't be able to get on the computer much. Please don't decline these. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 15:18, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, guys, but I'm going to withdraw these. I tried to fix them up and I couldn't; I don't think my talents lie with making blanks. Lol. I'm just gonna stick to coloring in cats from now on. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 00:26, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker- For Approval
*Shrugs* A minor character. Comments? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 18:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

The thing that immediately strikes me is that it needs shading!!! Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading, and there's a bit of burred linart on his forehead. Very good though!  HA WK FI RE98  21:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll go fix the lineart and shading <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Needs it's shading thickened immensely and blended. Ear pink could be toned down, but it mostly needs blurred some. ^^--<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#949494">Warrior♥ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#7A7A7A">Warrior's Den 00:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 21:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Better, but go back, it looks like you blurred the line art or added black marks.Minnowclaw 12:12, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be more... intense Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the lineart. But Sandy, i don't get what you mean by "intense" <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:01, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not Sandy, but I think she meant that it needs to be darker. (Sandy corect me if I'm wrong.)Minnowclaw 14:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well yes, that is kind of what I mean. It needs to be not just darker but a little thicker and blur it really well so it actually looks like shadows on his pelt. Some good examples of how the shading needs to look are Shadepelt and Rushtail's image which is currently up for approval. (I can't think of any more off the top of my head, sorry) It's not exactly just darker; it needs to look like a part of the pelt. I really hope that made some sense. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Use-For-Whatever Blanks


I got bored and made these. I figured that there were reserves on most blanks, so I'm just offering these up to use for whatever. If there's an extra blank needed for something, and whatnot. I'd like to see what everyone thinks they should be, because I've got no idea. Suggestions on editing welcome. ;3 --Sandiwolf 02:46, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

do we have To-Be blanks? or something? they should have whiskers :) and maybe a line going in from the nick? I'm newsh so... Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 04:48, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

And I think the eye is a bit big, maybe the cat is to big as well? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:27, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think that the only blanks that aren't reserved by anyone are softpaw blanks. Ice throat  21  16:36, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Add some fur to the cat, or else it looks flat. -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Panda-Love 16:40, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think Minnowclaw has the soft-paw blanks reserved. Maybe they could be kit-mothers?

Oh and yes they need whiskers. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 21:14, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I forgot that Minnowclaw had the softpaw's reserved. But these look too small to be kit-mothers. They look more like young cats. I don't think there are any other blanks that aren'y reserved besides the kit-mothers, though... Ice throat  21  22:29, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I can add whiskers to them. If there's nothing you can do with them now, you could use them for something later. More cats might show up in the future series.--Sandiwolf 19:42, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Sandiwolf, this can't just be Use for whatever blanks. You need to chose something or take them down. What about sharp claws?Minnowclaw 22:59, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Or cave-guards, unless someone else reserved them already? I could check if someone reserved the sharpclaw blanks right now. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:31, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Shoot, sorry. There is already something up for that.Minnowclaw 22:49, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

I saw no rules against it, Minnowclaw. Correct me if I am wrong. But, I can take them down if there is no use for them. --Sandiwolf 17:08, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

No, your not wrong. There is no rule agianst it in my mind, but think about it, if it gets approved and we don't have anything for them, what do we do?Minnowclaw 12:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Echo has the sharpclaws up, and Ice said they're too small to be kit-mothers, and the only thing left is cave-guards, which I'm not sure someone had reserved. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 17:44, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Well there is a point in time I'm sure that we all will be looking for a time to maybe to improve some of our blanks. Maybe you can start looking ahead in that...-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 19:00, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Rushtail(elder) for approval
erm....yeah--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 03:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

He's great! But the tail shading needs to be blurred into the tail, and on his haunch, there is a huge spot of lighter color.  HA WK FI RE98  13:16, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

This is a good start, but it needs blurred a lot. Blur the highlights and different colors, and even blur the ear pink. I'd bring the ear pink to the middle of the ear and then blur it. Otherwise, great job Bracken! Ice throat  21  13:34, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Blur, and maybe smudge a litle if the bluring dosen't workMinnowclaw 22:56, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

I do have photoshop hurhur *reuploaded*--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 00:49, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

This looks much better, nice job! The ear pink is a strange triangle though... look at some other elder images and try to copy the way the ear pink is done. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:13, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I echo Sandy. If it helps the ear pink should look like a curved triangle. Also, the shading and highlights are soooooooooooo good now.Minnowclaw 12:41, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

photoshop pwns! x3 re uploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆

X3 16:38, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

The ear punk is to bright pink.--Minnowclaw 00:30, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Blug! Don't take any notice to my past question. I was too tired to be making scince. What I ment to say was the ear pink (not punk) is too bright.Minnowclaw 14:12, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 04:48, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

This is one of the best pics I've seen all week. 24 hours starting now. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:28, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerpaw (SC) (A)- For Approval
Not much to say, I made him look like his kit version the best I could.  HA WK FI RE98  16:05, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Nice job! The ear pink's too bright for a brown cat though, and it needs blurred more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:18, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerstar doesn't have a kit version.... his stripes look much different than what you have here. -- Bramble -san  18:31, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Unless you meant this to be Tigerpaw (SC) in which case the stripes do look similar, but Bramble's right: Tigerstar's images have classic markings. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:52, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Dangit! *bangs head on computer* I can't do classic tabby. I might have to withdraw this.  HA WK FI RE98  19:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! Maybe I can change him to Tigerpaw (SC)! That would work, for Tigerpaw doesn't have a apprentice version.  HA WK FI RE98  19:08, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, Hawkey, it should be fine as Tigerpaw. But the ear pink still needs to be darker. Ice throat  21  19:44, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! I saw where Sparrowsong has Tigerpaw (A) (SC) reserved. Ice throat  21  19:54, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, *walks outside and screams* Okay, I will talk to Sparrowsong.  HA WK FI RE98  20:09, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

She said I can use it. :)  HA WK FI RE98  22:12, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. For the actual image, the ear pink needs darkened to a reddish color. There are plenty of approved dark-brown cats that are great examples. Ice throat  21  01:53, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Blur tabby stripes.Minnowclaw 23:21, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes are fine. I've blended them the best I can, their just dark is all. Reuploaded.  HA WK FI RE98  00:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink redder and more... what's the word... I can't think so I'll say apart of the part. Sorry that I can't think of something better.Minnowclaw 12:07, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

That makes no sense whatsoever. Anyway, Hawky, if you make the ear pink just a bit more red, I'd be glad to approve this. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:30, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Redclaw - For Approval
Ugh, I hate this picture. But I'll put it up anyway. The shading is blurred as far as it can go. Constructments (I love that word :3)? --Hawktalon 22:53, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

He's good, but the shading and highlights need to be blurred a lot.  HA WK FI RE98  23:03, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, blend. Minnowclaw 23:14, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to blur the shading more, but I don't think much has changed (stupid Pixlr >_<).Any constructments? --Hawktalon 19:52, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Your right, nothing much happend. Try smudging it.Minnowclaw 22:53, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Smudged the shading. Comments? --Hawktalon 21:32, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Sumdge this more and blend, but it's much better. Focus on the shading on the head. (That part tripped me up on my Seedpelt).Minnowclaw 12:02, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Smudged and blurred the shading more. Anything else? --Hawktalon 20:10, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink if gray.--Minnowclaw 00:28, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Erm, the ear pink wasn't gray. But I did notice that ear pink was a little hard to see, so I changed it. Constructments? --Hawktalon 19:47, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it was my laptop, it's a fourth hand-me-down and falling apart. Better now, but it needs to be a little bit brighter. Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 00:23, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Brightened the ear pink. Any other comments? --Hawktalon 19:21, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Pebblepaw (Ki) - For Approval
Comments/critisism? Hopefully this will turn out better than my cave-guard blanks... --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:18, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Soo cute! I love it! But the shading needs to be blurred a little more, and it looks slightly dark  HA WK FI RE98  22:33, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Alright. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Teal; background:Navy; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Teal; ">Rainwhisker 09 01:23, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened and shading is blurred. Any other comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 23:07, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but the pelt looks extremely unnatural, even for a mottled cat. It looks like a big huge swirl of lights or something. See Pebblepaw's apprentice pic for the idea of how he should look. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:33, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Ok. And I did use Pebblepaw's apprentice pic as a reference. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:08, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Sloefur (D) - For Approval
There is shading, but it's hard to see...and what you can see it really messy...should I thicken/darken it, and blur it some more? I've blurred it over and over again, but Pixlr isn't doing much for blurring... Ice throat  21  00:39, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I'll add more shading soon...I should be able to get to it today or tomorrow... Ice throat  21  02:11, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Like you said your self, shading. It's easier with a black cat to do shading with the dodge tool, but if your more comfortable using the burn don't listen to me. This is also very dark. I know that it's not black becuase if I tilt me CP I can see the line art. But lighten it up a bit.Minnowclaw

I've got a busy next couple of days, and I won't be able to get on very much. I'll try to work on Sloefur when I can, even if I don't have enough time to reupload it, so please don't decline this. Ice throat  21  17:24, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I found that it was a lot easier to just start over than to try and edit it, because the shading that I did have was really messy and hard to work with. So...I know that the shading needs blended, but Pixlr doesn't want me to be able and blend it all very much...I mainly can't get the shading on the hind leg right. Any suggestions for what I can do about the shading on the hind leg, as well as on the midriff? Also, sorry I haven't worked on this in a while. Ice throat  21  00:46, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'll try to lighten the shading soon... (the shading looks too dark, right?) Ice  throat  21  00:54, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I tried to lighten the shading. But if I lighten the entire charart, then the shading gets ruined. And I tried to blur the shading as much as possible, but it's blurred to the max in pixlr. So...suggestions? Ice throat  21  21:40, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Morningflower (E) - For Approval


Thought I may as well do her elder version too while I was at it so here she is Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Betutiful!Minnowclaw 23:16, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - No complaints here! Nice job! :) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  01:38, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Um... maybe you can put some ginger spots on her face, too. But other than that, wow! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Eveningswift :) 02:48, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

Uh... nevermind. But maybe the bottom of her cheek? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Eveningswift :) 02:50, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

There is no ginger in her queen one so we should leave that out.Minnowclaw 12:38, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

I used exactly the same colours for her elder version as her queen version. I don't think I can really fit anymore spots on her face without losing too much black. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:52, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

My last coment wasn't clear and I just whant to make sure you know what I said. I meant that there was no ginger on her check in the queen one.Minnowclaw 14:08, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry I haven't been here for a couple of days; life takes over sometimes. Do I need to add ginger spots on her face or not as I'm confused? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:42, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't make myself clear. No you don't. Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 00:22, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading a little, then she should be good. -- Bramble -san  02:23, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

Whiteclaw (W)
this is Whiteclaw. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:29, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

She is way too dark.Minnowclaw 14:05, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok hehe he is way to dark XD so make he light. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 14:56, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

ok hope this is ok. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:13, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

The eye needs fixed... Ice throat  21  21:44, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to specify on how to fix the eye, as well as mention a couple of other things, so, I'll say them now. The ear pink needs to be more triangular along with the shape of the ear, blurred some more, and also needs to be more of a reddish color rather than a pink color. And for the eye, go to for a diagram of how to fix the eye. Also, the transition between black and white with the paw needs blurred some more, and add some shading on the hind leg. And maybe run the dodge tool over the tail a couple of times, so it's not too much darker than the color of about the middle of the shading. (Sorry, I know it's a lot, and if I didn't explain enough please say so!) Ice  throat  21  23:58, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * OK....done. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:11, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reddish, not purplish. Go to the red section, not up by where the purple and hot pink section is. Also make it a little fuller and less slanted. -- Bramble -san  02:22, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

well it's red I don't like red ear...did I miss things? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:40, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

The lineart at the bottom of the right forepaw looks thin compared to the rest of the charart. Can you thicken it? I think you erased some of it while you were coloring it in. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 21:31, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Fallowtail- For Approval
Wasn't home for a few days.-- Darkhallows My den 10:49, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Beutiful Darky!Minnowclaw 14:06, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

I agree, she's wonderful! But, there seems to be a couple light colored pixels on her far cheek and the nose needs to be pink. Also, the ear pink seems to be more circular than triangular. Fix these, and she might be approved! --Hawktalon 19:35, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Fix'd.-- Darkhallows My den 12:49, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - The eyes look... strange. Look at some of the approved queen's eyes. Then she should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:34, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

A few personal messages
Hi everybody. This is Dawnfeather. As you may have noticed, I haven't been very active on here recently. It doesn't look like it's about to get any better any time soon as my English teacher has already laid out a few humoungous projects which we are going to be doing in the next few weeks. Because I can't be an effective Senior Warrior, Bramble, could you please demote me back to warrior? Also, I am very sorry to Bracken and ShimShim. I have been a very terrible mentor, only giving you advice every now and then. ShimShim, I never even got around to giving you any tasks to do! I think that Bracken is ready to be a warrior now, even though he has only had two images approved. Rushtail is nearly there, and his work is very good quality these days. And Shim needs a new mentor - sorry about that. I will still be around a little bit, but not a huge amount. Good image making to you all! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 02:06, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Mind if I add on with Dawnfeather too? I'm also stuck with total large amounts of work with high school keeping me extra busy. Yes, football season is drawing to an end for us but then again it looks like we're headed to the play offs only to keep me even longer T_T With that at end I will have to get ready for the next semester for concert band/soccer and those will also keep me away. I'm sorry to say that I believe that I might need to be demoted as well. I can only pop on maybe once a month and thats not really helpful to my apprentice at all or my work =/ I do have to say that I believe Icethroat is ready to be a warrior and I'm very proud to say that.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 18:57, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

thanks Dawnfeather!...since 2 of the senior warriors are becoming warriors again...I think Echomist would be ready to become a senior warrior...--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 19:18, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much, Shimmerpool! But what about Hawktalon, your other apprentice? And I agree with Bracken, Echomist's chararts are great! Ice throat  21  22:37, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

OOps! Sorry Hawktalon! I really should check the apprentices/mentors program page more often - I didn't even know! Yes, you (Hawtalon) will need another mentor. Uh.. could we get a Bramble in here?... I'm really sorry for causing all of this fuss everyone. I'm feeling really overwhelmed with everything at the moment - a lot is going on at the moment. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 01:43, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

I also agree Echomist should become a senior warrior. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:18, October 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * I forgot I also had Hawktalon as an apprentice actually...O.o mainly its you Icethroat that comes to me. I think whenever I get all this mess cleared I could possibly see if I'm ready to take the position again as a senior warrior but I do also agree that Echomist should be promoted maybe as well. But as for right now it looks like lazy saturdays shall be my free days who knows....Lets hope our football team doesn't make it anywhere so I won't have to leave for good and can be back for November and on out.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 03:48, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Brindleclaw (w) -for approval
I dont know what to say...<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;cyan; background:red; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;">♥Shadowedheart♥ 12:28, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

She's amazing Shadowedheart!!I just think you blurred the lineart around her.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">ღ Şũήמy ★ 12:50, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

It seems like you also colored the lineart the same black you made her fur while blurring it. Add the lineart back in..-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 03:49, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Vinestar- For Approval
Poor Honeyfur. All she can draw are leader Charcats. =P Oh, well. What do you think of him? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Very nice, Honeyfur! :) Maybe thicken and darken the shading a bit. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 01:05, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedleaf (Ki) ~ For Approval


This is the best image I have EVER, EVER, EVER, EEVEERRR done!!! What do you guys think of Spottedkit? (Sorry about my abcenses. And Yes, they are school related.) -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:22, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

She's absolutely gorgeous. Only thing I see, is that the ear pink needs to be more inside the ear. It looks like it's on her forehead. :) <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 21:43, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! And the ear pink looks like the ginger on the forehead... I'll fix it. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 22:46, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Greeneyes - for approval
Presenting Greeneyes, the... well... she-cat with green eyes. :P Comments/criticism? -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 01:04, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Oorrrrrr - soooome ! I love it. Anyone else? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 01:45, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! This is... amazing! But if you want to be picky, there are some grayish spots in the top of the tail lineart. I hope that made sense. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:21, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Redtail (Kit) - For Approval
Let's try this again I worked on the muzzle but not sure on what exactly more that I can do to it unless I make it bigger. Anymore suggestions and this time I will work hard to not let him go to waste like last time.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 03:53, October 18, 2009 (UTC)