Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. G B 57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Back. God, I hate life when it makes you busy. Anyway, I'll get on this before the weekend ends, but I have other stuff I need to catch up on, as well. G B 57 15:01, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Better? I blurred the darker spots in. G B 57 15:45, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. The ear pink needs to be slightly less circular though (I know it's hard with the kits but make it a bit taller) and a less purpley colour. Then darken all the shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to do the ear pink. I'll get to it this weekend. Ugh, sorry I'm gone so often. And thanks to my dad's new stupid work schedule, it's going to get slightly worse. Grrr. G B 57 02:45, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, Grocery :(. On the image: it's great, but could you darken the eyes a bit? They are so light I can't really tell what color they are. Sparrowsong 00:29, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've improved her. How is she? G B 57 21:56, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Great! I don't see anything wrong :D. You did a pretty nice job. Sparrowsong 18:31, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ear pink needs to be less circular and the shading needs to be darkened. --Hallow's Eve 09 21:50, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Blackclaw. Also, maybe try blurring the stomach-patch just a tad more. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:48, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the patch, but the ear pink has already been made less circular. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 15:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

The only thing I see wrong is that darker shading is needed. That's all. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry it's taking so long, guys, but I won't be able to get to this for another week. Believe me, I'll do this when I get the chance. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 03:23, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, re-uploaded. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 16:26, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

The white part of the pelt needs shading. Once you do that, this should be ready. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 16:33, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I suggest that you use burn highlights on 12(maybe) on the white parts of her body. Thats what I do and it works really well.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:01, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

This has been up since mid-September. This will seem unfair, but I feel that if the image can't be approved in two months, it should be taken down. I'll give you another week to get this approved, GB, but then I'm declining it. -- Bramble -san  01:32, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks - For approval


(M) - Not much to say about these. First blank I've made where you can see both sides of the face and such, and probably the last blank I'll do for a long time. Will make a colored version over the weekend. (Maybe.) Constructments? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:51, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute. But their bellies and legs look.. weird. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 23:44, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

A few things though...What i think could be improved  How I would do it..... Feel free to remove this or disregard it if i'm wrong, but its lineart looks a bit odd only in this area. Summary of it: The arm has odd, unnecicary lines, the showing hind leg goes a bit up, or thick, the stomach area is oddly shaped, and the eye is a bit odd... But its fabulous in the rest.-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 00:21, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg looks a little disproportionate--AutumnSky 02:26, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made a example and changed up the lineart a little bit. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;black; background:Orange; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; Black;"> Ghostfire Happy Halloween! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just to let everyone know, I'm still working on these. Please don't decline. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:18, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The arm showing looks either too thin or too long, and the showing hind looks to high or thick.<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 01:09, November 3, 2009 (UTC) I really wanna see these improved, so if you need help re-lining them, i made this. And a colored version of my cat, speedy.The colored version looks terrible because i didnt shade it. Dont criticize it...<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:maroon;">♥Shad <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Aquamarine;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aquamarine;">owed <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">heart♥ 22:03, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploded. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:44, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

This might sound weird... but the stomachs look like kangaroos in that they have a kind of pouch... I think it's the way the lineart seems to overlap. Also, there are a lot of little lines that are kind of unecessary and will make colouring difficult. Try and simplify them a little without losing too much important detail. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 23:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be easier to add ear pink if the line in the ear that is closest to us was taken out, but thats just my opinion. --<font color="Navy" style="background:Violet">Spottedwing 02:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Well, now I'm sick. Nothing like H1N1 or anything, but my sinuses are all congested. D: Anyways, Snady could you be more specic on the lines that can be taken out and how they look like kangaroos? As for Spottedwing, I was wondering about that. While it makes blurring difficult, the leader blanks have the same kind of lines and they help define where to place the ear pink... what do you guys think? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:48, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you, Moss. Since the leader blanks are like that as well...I personally like the ears as they are, it helps define them better, as you said. Also, I hope you feel better soon! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:51, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Jus forget my comment; they don't look like it anymore. I think my computer was being funny about showing image updates but it seems to be fixed now. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 10:24, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I think Icethroat is right: keep the lines as it defines the ear shape more. There are some smaller lines such as on the chest that make the image hard to colour though as they get blurred when blurring shading. They also look very... rough so maybe you could try and simplify some of the busier areas of the blanks somewhat - they don't have to be complicated to look good (look at the warrior blanks) and the object is to make them easy to colour. Also, the paw that is lifted, the elbow looks floppy like it has no bone in it. The pose is great though =) These are the best kittypet blanks I think I've seen Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:32, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Fixed fur and got rid of the gray lines on the edges. As for the elbows, I'm not sure how to fix them; any ideas? Just make them pointer? Also, I'm afraid to mess with the fur due to the fact that it took me forever to get it right. Plus, the fur's like my loner blanks, so I'm trying to keep to that style. Anyways, what can I fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Moss, I'm not sure if I can call you tonight, so I'll comment here. On the long-haired's tails, the fur is pointing the wrong direction. It should be falling, but not pointed backwards. Definetely getting better, though. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:09, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Hey guys, I'm going to work on these tomorrow. *sweat drop* Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  00:26, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Reuploaded. I fixed the fur on the tails. Wow, that was mousebrained of me... Anyways, what else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 02:14, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

The elbow looks a little kinda flappy. Maybe stretch it out a little?--Nightfall101 02:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'm not sure about the elbow; as you can see from one of my reference kitties here the elbow's not very long or pointy. Any suggestions on how to fix this so the elbow doesn't look so flappy? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:22, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Kit-Mother Blanks ~ For Approval


How do you like my suckish artwork? xD Gawd, I need a tablet... The example is better than the blanks: <BR> Comment/Suggestios? (Suggestions OTHER than leaving the drawing to experts? xD)-- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:15, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oh..my..staclan..THIS IS SO CUTE! I love the way she's staring at you like "I'm not fat!" The only thing I could say is that the head looks, a bit small-- ♥Sha de♥ <font color="#d8bfd8">Meow/<font color="#008000">Prey 15:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! :) I'll make the head a little bit bigger. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:26, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Heads are bigger by a tad. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 15:44, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

it look a bit odd..what is she doing? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:52, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if Apprentices are allowed to critique, and I love the blanks, but there are a few spots that look a bit... out of place. XD The paw near the Kit-Mother's head looks a bit flat, and the tails could be a smidge wider, but that's all I see. (: <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shigura Mah Talk Page 21:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura: Everyone's aloud to critique. That's part of the learning experience, being able to say what's wrong with a picture. :) Mumble: I agree with Shigura, the paw looks flat, and the tail could be a small bit wider. And also, the tail on the shorthair could maybe brought to the left a little bit, so the bottom of the lineart on the tail is at the same curve as the bottom lineart of the tail on the longhair, giving a curve that makes it more natural. Otherwise, great job, Mumble! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:18, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good, but the muzzle is a little thick, that shouldn't be too hard, methinks. You put queen blanks up a while ago, right? You've really improved ^^.-- Darkhallows 07:34, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

The neck looks fat.-- Minnowclaw Enter at own risk... 12:46, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darkhollows: Yes, I did. :) I think I tryed a freindly blanks war with melon! xD Thank you! ^-^<BR> Bramble: She's laying down while looking at you. :P Yeah, not very well-thought-out position...<BR> Everyone who offered suggestions: I'll do that. How would I make the paw look less flat? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 18:11, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the paw more curved, like she's trying to swat the air? <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 18:14, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - The tip of the short haired looks pointy. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 11:42, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do all of those ASAP, but I'm unable to get on very often since school is eating up my free time. Please do not delete these. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 21:44, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - XP I meant their tails looked pointy. I guess I forgot to type tails! Oops. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 12:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

lol. I've REUPLOADED the originals, and also have modified and saved two without paws so we can see which is better. I'll do the rouder tails with the next editing section, as well as making a new colored in example. -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 00:35, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I like the one without the paw better but, maybe you could change the position of the head a little.-- Ashstar My Clan 03:10, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I like the one without the paw, but maybe make the neck a little thicker, especialy on the long haired one--Nightfall101 04:27, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

I personally like the one with the paw, because the one without the paw looks kind of weird, like the cat's paw was cut off or something. But that's just my opinion. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:57, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

kk. I sorta do too. Any other comments before I edit again? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 16:16, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - First, the forelegs are pointing different directions; fix that. Also, maybe you could make the long-haired's leg look furrier? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:12, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do the furry leg and non-pointy tail ASAP, but I don't know what you mean by the forlegs look like they're pointing in different dirrections. Can you please clarify? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 20:36, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I have no idea how to do a diagram, but I'll ask Moss later. The longhaired's leg isn't reaching as far. Can anyone who sees it please do a diagram? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:16, November 16, 2009 (UTC)



I just circled where the leg didn't reach as far as the shorthair blank--Nightfall101 00:10, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

(M)- The tails look like they're being held in the air; I made an example for you. (On the example the tails are way too small compared to the body, but you get the picture.) Also, the faces look... I dunno, twisted. Maybe just try moving them around a bit.



Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:49, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Screech of Angry Owl (To-Be) - For Approval
...*fidgets* Sorry, Bracken! here is the brother of Pebble. how is he? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 02:09, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but this is very dark and I can't see much, can you lighten it up a bit?-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * 3 s;okay...like Minnow said, he IS a bit too dark so, I suggest you probably start out as a dark gray'ish coulour, then add shading 'till it looks black :3--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Pebble☆ X3 21:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't he supposed to be black? But I'll lighten it anyway. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:Black; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Gray;">Hallow's Eve 09 23:34, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Yes he is black, but if it's too dark, we can't see and he might as well be purple.-- *Minn owc law*  02:34, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better, or should I lighten it more? I also blurred some of the shading and thinned it cause I thought it was too thick. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 17:33, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's still too thick on the back and belly.-- *Minn owc law*  22:08, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded Better? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

The black is so dark that I can't see the lineart. Try running him over once or twice with the dodge tool to lighten the color. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 14:51, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

I already did that before, but I'll do it again. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 02:34, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded I lightened the color, but I don't know if it's still hard to see the lineart. On my com it looks fine. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:59, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I can sort of see the lineart, but I really like the way your eye looks. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:14, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I can't see the lineart. I think it's because your shading is so dark. Did you do it with a black paintbrush or use the burn tool on highlights? If you did either then that's probably why - I find midtones burn tool better on a dark coloured cat as it keeps the distiction between the lineart and pelt. Try using the dodge tool to lighten the shading slightly then reapply the lineart over the top as a second layer (make sure all the white is transparent first). Also, the ear pink is too pale for a black cat - make it more of a rosy colour. You may also want to try adding some highlights with the dodge tool, just make sure you blend well. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:42, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'm just going to do it over again, because I can't lighten the shading at all. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:02, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Here is the new Screech. Comments? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 00:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:28, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q)- For Approval
--My first charart. I did the best I could. Comments =) <font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

She is completely white. Don't worry, when I started making charart, I would be that with white cats too. You need to make it a light gray, because if it's totally white, then shading won't work. Do you know how to shade? Because if not I could teach you.-- <span style="font-family:Curlz Mt; color:orange; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">♥Halloweenclaw 13:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

There's a few blurry sections of Lineart, and the shading should probably be thickened a bit. I can't see anything. XD (But that might be just me) The ear pink should be blurred out, and in a triangle shape. But don't worry, it's pretty good for your first charart! :) Just a suggestion; If you already know this, i'm very, very sorry. But you should go to http://pixlr.com/editor and use that. Using that program you can use the blur tool to blur shading and ear pink (Be careful not to go over lineart, and if you do, just open up paint and go over the black lines with the pencil tool) and you can use the 'Burn' tool to darken parts, etc. Once again, I'm very sorry if you already knew about pixlr. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Orange; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Shistar BOO! 15:16, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Shigura covered it all.-- *Minn owc law*  15:17, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

On the one cheek and behind the ear, it is lighter than the other spots. --<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Maroon; Background:Black;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Crimson;">Mosspath <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Cyan;background:black;border:2px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:cyan;"> of <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:Yellow;background:black;border:2px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Skyclan 15:29, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

For shading, use the burn tool. (if you already know this, ignore me), and run it over the back, hind leg, and other places that have shading. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:25, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

Okay, the lines that were blurred are a bit too thick now. And there still isn't any shading. XD (I checked. XP) There should be a few white pixels in the eye, (Look at Ferncloud's eye to see how it should look) And the ear pink should still be more triangular and blurred along the outside. =) <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:White; background:Black; border:1px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:White;"> Shistar Mai Talk Page! =) 17:22, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

There are only still some white parts near her face and her ear.-- *Minn owc law*  23:13, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<font color="red" style="background:Black">Darkmoon25'

(S) - Maybe it's me, but the eye looks turquoise. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:29, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

hmm... my main problem is that you've now made her so far off-white that she looks pale grey... =/ Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:40, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading darker also, and blur the ear pink slightly as it looks like it is now painted on. (ps. please sign with ~ so we can see the timestamp, thanks) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:35, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, pretty much what Sandy said. Also, to make her less pale gray, use the dodge tool at about size 70, and the brush that gets lighter out. (Please disregard if you knew this.)-- Mossy SC  22:33, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

re uploaded. I lightened her and darkened the shading. also changed eye color. finally i Blurred the ear pink. please approve this! <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

I don't know, she still looks pale gray to me--Nightfall101 23:40, November 10, 2009 (UTC) I dont see anywhere she is pale grey. Except for the shading.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

(S) - I can tell you changed the eye, but maybe make it a darker green, like on her warrior image. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:18, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

I have a few things and although I don't often do them, I've drawn you a diagram (yay!) to help show you what I mean.

Okay: the red circle shows where I don't think you need the shading as it wouldn't go around the whole lineart of the tail. The purple shows where you need to add shading, the blue shows where the lieart is blurred. You also need to blur all the shading into the pelt as it's quite messy. The background needs to be made transparent and the ear pink is too bright (I put a patch of the colour I would recommend next to the ear although there are other colours that can be used on white cats and look good) Hope this helps =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:16, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Darken the belly shading more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:46, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 Darkened the belly shading

Almost there. Just blend the shading and make the ear pink more triangular and she'll be ready, I think. [Note: you don't have to upload under a new file name each time, just choose a name that's something like: Whitewing.queen.png or Whitewing(Q).png or Whitewing_Q.png and reupload over the old one each time instead of having whitewingqueen2, whitewingqueen3 etc. These extra files just clog up the wiki] Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Ok i will get to that. But I tried to upload files on the old image but my changes are not being shown. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Sometimes it takes a few minutes to change. I find that often mine don't change for a couple of days: I'm not quite sure why but it may be something to do with temporary files stored on your computer, or it may just be the wiki being slow. The best person to ask would be Eu. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:16, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploded<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 It showed my changees! Anyways I blended the shading and change the ear pink shape. Is it ready?!=)

(M) - Almost. There's a bit of blurred lineart on the tail, and the shading on the belly looks darker than the rest. Also, the ear pink is too bright and needs blurred more. Fix those things and then she should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:52, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Applefur - For Approval
Yay! Applekit comes back! But we still never know what happened to Marshkit. =( Anyway, here she is. I felt kind of bad cluttering up the page, but since Adderfang's in the "24-Hour-Stage", I thought you guys would be able to forgive me. =) Comments? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:03, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is good! I know that it's about the same color as her kit version, but make the ear pink brighter, but not too bright.-- *Minn owc law*  21:23, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Better? Oh, and the reason her color is a little bit different from her kit version, is because she gets a new description in The Fourth Apprentice. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:38, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

That's dum. I mean the new description not you. Make the ear pink have more color as now it looks pale.-- *Minn owc law*  22:04, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Honeyfur, but we're not making any TFA characters until the actual book comes out. You can put this up once TFA comes out, but for now this will have to be temporarily declined. -- Echoshriek <font color="Purple">Trick or treat! 23:44, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

This is to Minnowclaw: I am slightly ashamed to say that I let the fact that Applefur had a false description slide. I just thought it was the most likely, and thinking that we'd never see her again thought it didn't matter. Truth is, I've never seen anywhere that Applekit was a dark ginger she-cat. -- Bramble -san  00:00, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

What do we do now? I'm I in trouble?-- *Minn owc law*  00:11, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

You're not in trouble Minnow - it's my fault. I relied on the wiki page for her description. I have a plan though: 1. I'll redo her kit version so in co-insides with the accurate description. 2. I think the image is going to have to go to waste as I can't think of any other dark ginger kits... unless I can have the image back and try and do something with it? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Also, temporarily declined until TFA release (I'm glad I saw this because it's reminded me not to post Beetlewhisker yet!) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is taking up space. Back up for critquing. However, when it is approved and archived, we just don't put the image on the page until TFA comes out. Compromise... gotta love it. :) -- Bramble -san  22:48, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, Bramble! Yup, gotta love it. ^.^ For the image, the ear pink looks a bit odd being circular, and it's also gone outside of the ear. Try getting it back inside the ear, and more triangular-ish. Also, darken the shading on the chest and on top of the head some. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:52, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:41, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Much better, but now can you darken the flecks? I can barely see the mottled-ness. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Please don't decline this. I'll try to work on it over the weekend. =) -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 23:39, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay; reuploaded. How's this? Or does she need more "mottledness"? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 16:32, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:40, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I think this is ready. Comments before approval in 24 hours? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:53, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Soft Paw Blanks- For Approval
, I don't really like them xD.-- Darkhallows 03:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * literally dies of awsomeness* WOW!-- Shad owed  heart  11:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, these look great! Only one thing - the front paws look a bit... round. I know that they're supposed to be tucked in, but could you make a line inside the curve, just so that you can see where the paw is? (Sorry if that didn't make any sense - I can't explain it any better.) -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Love the pose! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks you guys. || Is the paw/leg any better?-- Darkhallows 19:06, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

These are really good. The only thing is they each need their own file like the other blanks. -- Ashstar My Clan 21:03, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

The paws still look odd and they look very skinny, try making them fatter.-- *Minn owc law*  01:17, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I don't think they're that skinny. I mean, they're not kittypets! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:26, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

These are good! But maybe you could show part of the tail-tip near the head (if you know what I mean)? --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 01:57, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I exist! I don't think that they are too skinny. They are feral, after all. As for the paws? They are a little annoying to play with, so I changed the first one. Better? worse? And I would Blackclaw, but the tail would look way too long then.-- Darkhallows 09:55, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like the other paws better. Perhaps give them a couple of claws or something, or make them slightly less rounded though. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 22:10, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like the other paws better, like the one on the male longhair (the one on the upper right hand corner). I don't know how you would fix this, but the paws on the shorthairs look odd...like the lineart is thicker or something. Try to make the paws on the shorthairs look more like the paws on the longhairs. Also, as said before, these all need their own file for each, not just one file for all four of them. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:34, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Done. They have their own files, and I will switch it once the 24 hours starts. This is for simplicity of editing.-- Darkhallows 11:51, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I atually think these are ready. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:41, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Lightningpelt- For approval
A minor character. Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 00:59, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

The white streak on her back would probably be on the lineart, rather than on the side of the pelt like it is now. Otherwise, great job, Hawkfire! -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:26, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

I echo Icethroat, and also make the ear pink more of a fine triangular shape, and less of a bright pink color. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦ <font color="Purple">Contribs 01:49, November 9, 2009 (UTC) Awesome! Um I don't really see anything *goes closer* Nope &#91;&#91;User:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;background:silver; color:goldenrod;&quot;&gt;&#39;&#39;&#39;Icestorm&#39;&#39;&#39;&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;sup&gt;&#91;&#91;User Talk:Icestorm123&#124;&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;How&#39;s the prey running?&lt;/span&gt;&#93;&#93;&lt;/sup&gt; 02:02, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Make sure you make it slightly smaller, as we probably wouldn't be able to see it all. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:04, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made the streak on the back, and worked on her stripes and ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 19:05, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

nice work. but now I can hardley see the streak. maybe make it a bit bigger and longer. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Your tabby stripes seem to be blurred. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:56, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 23:11, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Ok the image still looks good. but I can hardly see the ear pink and the streak looks more like a patch now then a streak. But good job <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25

Leopardfoot (Q) for approval
Wanted to do another queen. Comments?--<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:22, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! Just thicken the shading and she'll be ready. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 13:17, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Also, blur the shading more.-- *Minn owc law*  00:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:20, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:32, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

The shading's too dark, it needs lightened. Also, the ear pink needs to be longer in the ear, since the ear's big the ear pink has to be bigger with it. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 15:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the shading, made the ear pink longer, and because of my pickyness, I tweaked the eyes a little bit. What else? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:30, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading more and she'll be ready Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:13, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 19:49, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Blur shading a bit more. Focus on the thigh the most.-- *Minn owc law*  23:32, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:14, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comments?? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:27, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Add some shading to the hind foot, as well as a small bit on (our) left of the head. And try blurring the shading some more, it seems too dark. Also, try thickening the shading on the stomach, or try adding some highlights. --  Icy -chan  17:22, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 20:33, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Brook- For Approval
I love Brook; thank goodness Stormfur didn't fall for Squirrelflight (Ew)! -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 15:33, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, she's beautiful! I see nothing wrong. -- Mossy SC  21:19, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I fixed some stuff on this cat using the line art that you made. Sorry, I'm using Paint, so I don't know how to blur the colors.I hope you like It. Any more comments?

Nightwhisker98 Nightwhisker98 21:14, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Nightwhisker, instead of putting every reply on the bottom of the page, please put it in the discussion you are replying to. (Does that make sense?) Also, don't use Paint for Chararts. Use pixlr instead. Here: http://www.pixlr.com/editor/ -- Mossy SC  21:20, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Honeyfur, add a little bit more shading to the back, belly, and legs, and she should be ready. Very nice job, she looks beautiful. -- Bramble -san  17:13, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Moss and Bramble! How's this? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 21:10, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'd say make the streaks a darker or more orange-like color so we can see it against the fur. Shad owed  heart  12:55, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 00:28, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

The streaks look fine to me, but can you darken the shading a little? Just once or twice with the burn tool should do the trick Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:08, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Is this a little better? -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 17:03, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:49, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Graywing-For Approval
All right, since my Shadowstar is taking FOREVER to get comments on it...here's my Quailfeather!-- Mossy SC  22:27, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Great, Mosspath! Thicken the shading and make the highlights brighter, and this should be good. Also, add a highlight on the head, and since this is a longhair, maybe add a highlight on the top of the tail. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:46, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Grr Icethroat. I was just about to say the same thing, but you said it first. <(-_-*)> mad. Just kidding! <(^_^)>. Do as Icey says Mossypath and this should be good. OMG! I just thought of a nick name for you Mosspath! What do you think of (I know it's odd) Mossy P. LOL. <(&_&)>-- *Minn owc law*  23:53, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job Moss!!!do what ice said and add shading to the herbs. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:55, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

I was going to say the same thing as Ice too, minnow. lol ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#008080">Talk 23:56, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

This is one reason why I LOVE the Charart Project. Everyone is so funny! ^.^ KK, I'll get this done soon, I just felt like typing now! -- Mossy SC  21:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded did as everyone said!-- Mossy SC  21:41, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

This is really good, but, I don't think Quailfeather's description was ever mentioned in Code of the Clans. Ignore me if I'm wrong. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 00:24, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Hawktalon. :) I despise false description adders.... Moss, the image won't go to waste; you can use this as Graywing, another gray she-cat who is also a medicine cat. Just darken the color a little bit.(and change the file name) -- Bramble -san  03:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Phew! Thanks Bramble and Hawktalon! I wouldn't want that to go to waste! O.O kk, I will do so.-- Mossy SC  23:38, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Well, I made Graywing from Quailfeather. (It had no eye color on the description so I just kept blue.) -- Mossy SC  23:57, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add a highlight on the head, but make sure you keep the eye color and then fill the eye color back in so it's not five shades too light. :) Also, thicken the shading some, but make sure you don't get it too dark. If it's too dark, then run the highlight tool over it once or so after you thicken the shading and blur it.

One more thing, darken the ear pink. Run the burn tool over it once or twice, and then blur it again, and it should be good. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

kk. Wow...is my scheduel all messed up...I'll probably not get to it until a few days... :P-- Moss SC  00:00, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded please,someone explain to me how to fix this. -- Moss SC  19:37, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Did you try blurring it?--Nightfall101 23:18, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like there's highlights around the shading, so try and use the burn tool on that part of the shading to darken it to fit with the shading, ot darken it to blend between the shading and the fur color, and then BLUR, blur, blur! (or something like that. Try playing around with it and see if you can get the burn tool and blur tool to work.) --  Icy -chan  02:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Snowfur (Q): For approval
Well she died as a queen so here ya go.



Comments? --Bluestar1776 22:23, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Some of the lineart on her ears are blurred a lot, and I can barely see any color on her nose. Also, there definately has to be some shading, and I would maybe blur the gray on the ear that's farthest from us (her left ear), it looks like a circle--Nightfall101 22:27, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - sharpened ears, darkened nose. --Bluestar1776 23:17, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Add color to the nose, make the lineart on her hindleg and her front leg that is closest to us black, and lighten the eyes. Also add shading. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened lineart, colored nose. --Bluestar1776 16:03, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Drumroll, please!! *drumroll drumroll drumroll* Thanks, Echo, for showing me how to do the shading! --Bluestar1776 19:21, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I an kind of see that there is shading but you need to darken it slightly. Use the burn tool and rn it over a few times. Then use the blur tool to blend the shding in. Also, the ear pink needs to be more triangular Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:15, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened shading, fixed ear pink. Lol, is it blurry enough for you? Hahaha I'm just kidding it sucks. --Bluestar1776 17:12, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I put up two versions. The second one is a thousand times better, in my opinion. --Bluestar1776 17:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I still can't really see the shading on either version and you've now blurred the lineart... more noticeably on version1. Use the burn tool to darken the shading and then fix the blurred lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:03, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

There's still a lot of blurred lineart, mostly on the forepaws and belly. And you don't need to put the image at the end of the section, because the changes appear above. And don't forget to leave your sig so we know who you are. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:10, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Don't know if it's just my computer, but it looks like her shading turned into spots on top of her spine. don't know if it just me or not. --Honeyrose34 23:35, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

You're right about the shading Honeyrose. Try and brush it up a little, make it straighter and more even. --Nightfall101 03:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - fixed the shading. --Bluestar1776 19:11, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Looking good. But I would lighten the shading on her belly and chest, it looks like it's gray there instead of just shaded--Nightfall101 21:59, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - should I lighten it any more? --Bluestar1776 22:11, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's coming along great! Try and even it out on back though, it still looks a little bumpy--Nightfall101 22:14, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - lightened the shading on the back. --Bluestar1776 22:19, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I have to eat dinner, will work on it more after. --Bluestar1776 22:21, November 17, 2009 (UTC)



The red is where the lineart is blurred, and the blue is where the shading needs to be darkened--Nightfall101 22:58, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I fixed the areas you said to. Better? --Bluestar1776 00:22, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It's getting a lot better! But, all the shading still needs to be both thickened and darkened--Nightfall101 00:27, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - darkened the shading on the back. --Bluestar1776 00:51, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, but it's still hard to see. Thicken the shading on the back and tail, and try straightening it--Nightfall101 00:54, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I don't know what you mean by "thicken", but I did my best. --Bluestar1776 02:09, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Is the gray on the ear tip shading? It looks very sudden. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:48, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

It's not shading, Snowfur is supposed to have gray tipped ears. But the shading really needs some work, it looks bumpy and uneven--Nightfall101 21:15, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - better? --Bluestar1776 23:33, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The shading isn't as bumpy anymore, but it still needs to be evened out--Nightfall101 22:21, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you should get rid of the images that aren't being improved. I'm not really sure which one I should look at.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:20, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - better? --Bluestar1776 14:51, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Swiftbreeze (W)-For Aproval


Here's my first charart! I'm very proud of the tabby stripes, they were hard to do. Well here she is, Swiftbreeze from Bluestar's Prophecy--Nightfall101 04:26, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is really good for a first charart! Just blur the white areas a little more, and perhaps don't make the tabby stripes so bunched together.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:10, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Wowzers, I'm impressed for your first charart! Don't bunch up the tabby stripes so much, and the picture itself looks a little blurry... try saving it in PNG format next time. --Bluestar1776 19:05, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Your pupil is gold like the rest of the eye, make it black please!!!--Honeyrose34 20:07, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Make the ear pink just a little bit smaller. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:21, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

How do I save it in png format?--Nightfall101 02:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well when you save the image on pixlr, a box will come titled, 'Save Image' Bring down the list next to 'Format' and choose PNG. Follow me? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:41, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! I'll get to work on it--Nightfall101 21:48, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Is this better?--Nightfall101 03:18, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

On her description, it just says "tabby and white", not that she has a white tipped tail, white paws and a white chest. I would think this ment patches of white instead of what you did. --Bluestar1776 02:18, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmm, just because it says she is tabby and white, doesn't necassarily mean brown tabby with white patches. That would look a little weird. Tabby and white could mean anything. It doesn't really matter where the white is, just that she has white somewhere on her body. I'am very proud of this picture, and I don't really want to change where the white is--Nightfall101 03:09, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

For the white patches, that can be a personal preference by the artist, just like gray-and-white could mean patches (ex. Hazeltail), or just gray with white paws and belly (ex. Mousewhisker).

For the image itself, the ear pink is way too bright, and needs to be more of a reddish color, like on Barkface or Stick. The image looks very good, and once the ear pink color is changed, it should be pretty close to ready, if not ready. --  Icy -chan  23:29, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like the puple is still gold. --Honeyrose34 00:24, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The pupil is white Honeyrose, I promise--Nightfall101 00:36, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Is the ear pink better Icethroat?--Nightfall101 00:48, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the ear pink's much better. Great job! --  Icy -chan  04:02, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Anything more I can do?--Nightfall101 08:43, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...I can hardly see any detail on the brown part of the tail, maybe run the dodge tool over it a couple of times to lighten it, so we can see the details, and then this should be good. --  Icy -chan  21:51, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Any better?--Nightfall101 22:48, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Yep. I can't see anything else. Great job! --  Icy -chan  23:24, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Hawkfire said that the lineart on her back looks bumpy, so I'm gonna fix that--Nightfall101 00:07, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I tried to fix the back lineart, does it look smoother?--Nightfall101 00:07, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

This is almost ready but I have a few small things: 1) there is some grey lineart on the foreview hind paw. 2) The stripes look very indistinct and over blurred - perhaps define them a little. 3) The white chest patch, whilst there is nothing wrong with it's positon, it is very uneven and blotchy - try and make it maybe slightly bigger and also more even. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:12, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I ran the burn tool over the stripes, fixed all the gray lineart on the paws, and did my best to improve the white patch on her chest. Better?--Nightfall101 19:34, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Wow amazing for your first Charart. I think the cat is too dark. Does it say "dark brown tabby" Great no not great I meant AWESOME! for your first Charart! Might get mine up soon.And AWESOME! tabby stripes. <font color="#0000ff" style="background:Lime">Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 00:03, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Icestorm! I think I'd prefer to keep her that color though. Any more comments?--Nightfall101 00:27, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? Anyone?--Nightfall101 02:36, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

You could maybe darken the back ear some (the right ear), just for cool effect. :) --  Icy -chan  15:34, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Logfur-For Approval
This is Logfur. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:46, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the stripes or lighten the pelt because it's hard to see them.-- *Minn owc law*  20:18, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

It might just be me, but the image looks very dark and very red and there seems to be some paler grey/white on the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:25, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

The image is really really dark. The image needs lightened a lot. Try the dodge tool on 100% size 100 or 200, so you get the entire image. Use the tool about three or four times, or maybe six or seven. Until you think it's bright enough, which you'll probably know. Also, the lineart does look gray in some areas. From what I can see of it, though, the tabby stripes look very nice. -- Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:49, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat, it's waaaaay to dark. And I do see the gray lineart. But I really like the stripes!--Nightfall101 05:38, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It did say Dark Brown but it looks like this is to dark :) I will do this ASAP. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 13:28, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Waaaaay to dark, I can barely see the stripes. The shading is good, though. --Bluestar1776 19:04, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've brightened the brown colour, and removed the gray from the outline (replaced with black). Hope that's okay :) - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 11:00, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Now it looks somewhat reddish rather than dark brown. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 23:07, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I agree w/ Rainwhisker, maybe make it just plain dark brown, not to bright, not too dark. Do get what i am saying, my friends say that i talk like i'm from a diff country! Anyway, just don't make it too red looking. --Honeyrose34 23:32, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I've made the fur more brown now. Let me know what you think :) - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:23, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It looks redddish brown now. Try changing the color altogether instead of lighting it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;gold; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:gold;">Darkmoon25 It looks brown to me, so I'd have trouble making it look more brown :). The RGB for it atm is 59-37-16 which is about the right ratio as far as I'm aware. - Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:58, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It looks better now, great job Bramble!! ( is okay if i call you that? just checking!) --Honeyrose34 00:23, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Honeyrose, you might not want to call Brambleclaw that because the fantastic leader of this project is a user named Bramble. I was confused and thought that you were mistaken when I saw the post and I think other people with be.-- *Minn owc law*  01:42, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

lol you can all call me Shruggy if you feel like it :) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 07:11, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is a very strange colour. Try looking at some approved cats and choose a different shade. Um... I think Tigerstar is a good example Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:03, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Cinderfur (D) - For Approval
Technically he died as a deputy, so here ya go. What do you think?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:07, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

He's GGOD!!just add more the shading, and blur the ear pink. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 04:12, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

He needs a little more shading, and possibly highlights. Right now he looks flat.(I shouldnt say that, because the computer screen is flat) Ok, he looks 2-D.-- Shad owed  heart  12:59, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

The eyes don't have a pupil/highlight. --Bluestar1776 15:57, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading and the lineart on the hind leg that is furthest from us is blured. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 03:32, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thickened the shading, blurred the ear pink, and fixed the hind leg. He already has a highlight in his eye. I sort of made a highlight at the top of his head, but I'm having a little trouble with them.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  16:19, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like you darkened the shading rather than thickened it. Can you thicken it some more?-- Ashshadow My Clan 21:55, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Well I darkened and thickened it, but I'll thicken it some more.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:53, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

You need to add a bit more color to the eye, and add a pupil/highlight. Here's an example: (Don't critcize, I just made this in like 2 minutes and didn't bother with shading.) Anyway, see how his eye has more color? Lol sorry meh image ended up a little higher than yours. --Bluestar1776 22:02, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Er, I can't see the image.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  06:22, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Darkstar (RC) for approval
I like her name...Darkstar...XD-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 05:30, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I like it, but lighten the eyes a little, or add a white spot to make a glare. (I don't know if that makes scense or not)And maybe darken the fur. Also, when I was reading Code of the Clans, I found the picture that went with the scene she was in. There was a cat somewhere in the middle that was most likely Darkstar, and it was a tabby. (Just a thought, you don't have to make her tabby)--Nightfall101 05:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

that's another Darkstar *reuploaded*-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 17:54, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I thought I reserved Darkstar?-- Ashshadow My Clan 18:56, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Actually ignore my previous comment. Yours is way better than mine. Can you darken the pelt a little more, it looks reddish brown right now.-- Ashshadow My Clan 20:00, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I really like this but I have a few small things. 1. Can you darken the shading under the chin and on the neck a little to define this area more. 2. The eye colour is too dark. I like the highlight in the eye but it's hard to distinguish the dark blue from the black of the lineart. 3. The ear pink needs to be smaller and contained within the ear so some pelt colour can be seen around the outside. Look at Cloudstar or Sunstar. It should be a triangle shape and well blended Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:56, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Make the nose a little more of a darker pink. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded-- '''Pebble2Pineow> *poke* hai! 16:24, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think the eye color is still a tad dark, mayb use the dodge tool once or maybe twice. --Honeyrose34 21:32, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

This is turning out great! But I don't think the eye is to dark, it's looking good. But I do see four white pixels, two on the tail, one right next to her right paw, and one on her left ear. Also, the lineart on her left eye is thinner that the lineart on her right eye, could fix that maybe?--Nightfall101 01:36, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Great! But maybe you can make the ear pink more triangular. :) And the eyes... brilliant, but they sort of bulge. You can add more lineart to the eyes. <span style="font-family:papyrus; color;black; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Faithlark Talk :) 22:23, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Cave-Guard Blanks - For Approval
They're baaaaack XD With Shadowedheart's permission, I am now doing the Cave-Guard Blanks again. They took forever to make. I used many references to get the anatomy right. But, enough about that. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 13:14, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, these look great! The front two legs look skinny, though, compared to the big hind legs. These are probably the best cave-guard blanks I've seen, great job! --  Icy -chan  13:52, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks a bunch, Icethroat :D Love the new sig, by the way! Thickened the forelegs. Better now? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 15:50, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

These are way better than the ones I put up... Just two things: First, the part where the two forelegs connect with the chest/belly, the two lines are go too in into the legs. Just shorten them a bit. Second, the part where the tail on the longhairs connects with the rest of the body needs more of a curve, not a straight line. Otherwise, they're great! By the way, Icethroat, love the new sig! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 15:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thankies, Rainwhisker ^-^ I fixed the afforementioned areas. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:11, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

The tail on the shorthaired ones looks kind of... odd. --Bluestar1776 17:17, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

So, how do I fix them? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 18:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Make it more pointy, like the tail on the longhairs, but not too pointy. Thanks for the comments on my new sig! --  Icy -chan  18:36, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Fixed the tails on the shorthairs. And your welcome, Icethroat:) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 19:06, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think that you may need to move the showing hind leg infront of the foreleg.-- Shad owed  heart  21:10, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Could you specify it more? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 22:04, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

The hind leg's haunch looks tucked in, and when a cat sits, its out. The flat part on the front of the hind leg should be curved to look like its in front.Also, the front legs back around the hind leg is different on the long and short haired. Shad owed  heart  22:21, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Ah, I see what you mean now. I fixed the legs. Better? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 22:50, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 20:33, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Yup, much better. --  Icy -chan  23:01, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Anything else I need to fix? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 20:57, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

I made an example: Note that I didn't bother to add mud streaks. I had no trouble coloring it in. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:26, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Cool! And anyway, i don't think that cave-guards have the mud on them, only prey hunters. i beats me, i don't really know much about the tribe. just thought that i could put out an opinon of mine. --Honeyrose34 21:17, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Wow, these are incredible. I honestly don't see anything wrong. Comments before approval in 24 hours? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:57, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Graymist (W) - For Approval
Well, my third tabby, my second recent tabby. How bad is it? --  Icy -chan  23:15, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

She's great, but doesn't look very tabbyish as more stripish.(ugg Minnow has brain freeze and can't think!) -- *Minn owc law*  01:34, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

I pruposely made the tabby stripes stripe-ish. So...how would I fix them to look less stripe-ish? I tried to use an Echomist effect on the tabby stripes, but evidentally, I failed. (lol) How would I make the tabby stripes look better? --  Icy -chan  02:07, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Hiya! So...to make them more tabby...well, make some more wavy and irregular, and add some squiggles in between the lines. Also, you may want to make some y's. But that's optional.-- Moss SC  00:18, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, what Mossy said.-- *Minn owc law*  03:01, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I kept the original one on the left, but put the new one on the right, because I wasn't sure which was better. Personally, I don't like the stripes on the second one at all, I don't think they look any realistic, but I'll see what everyone else thinks. :) --  Icy -chan  22:53, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I give the second one: <-(>^^<)-> (claps). Let's see what other people say.-- *Minn owc law*  23:23, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I really like the first one! ♥Sha dow edh eart♥  ♥Meow♥ ♥Prey♥  10:54, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I actually think the one on the left looks really good and a lot more realistic than the other. (ie. the first one) If you look at I think the stripes are okay how they are as this tabby has very straight stripes... it just depends. (I typed 'tabby cats' into google images and this was like the 3rd image so...) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:07, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

So which one should I keep up, the first one or the second one? --  Icy -chan  21:44, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I like the second one better, the stripes are more realistic--Nightfall101 21:46, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I like the first one better. The stripes on the second one seem too big to me.-- Ashshadow My Clan 22:05, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I really like the second better! I agree with Nightfall. <font color="#0000ff" style="background:Lime">Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 00:31, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone for your opinions, but I've looked at the picture Sandy provided, as well as some others, and I found a lot of striped tabbies, so I changed it back to just the first one being up for approval. So, now that that's decided, any more comments and suggestions? --  Icy -chan  02:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

You could blur the ear pink. The stripes look great! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:22, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred the ear pink. Anything else? --  Icy -chan  16:24, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - See if you can blur the shading on the back anymore. Other than that, she looks great. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:59, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Whitefang - for approval
Thanks for the list Sandy. So we don't clash, I'm working backwards. GRRRR... I hate white cats, but here he is.-- *Minn owc law*  01:29, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job, Minnow. Just add ear pink. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 01:40, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

WOW. I forgot something like that. Fail on me. Better?-- *Minn owc law*  02:53, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I like it a lot Minnow! Whitefang will always remind me of the wolf Whitefang=)--Nightfall101 00:52, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - I think it looks great! And White Fang: COOLEST. STORY. EVER!!!!! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:23, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Aside from the Erins', I mean. Still... Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but I hated the movie--Nightfall101 16:25, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

There's a movie? I did not know that. Anyway, back to the image: the shading could be thickened more. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:21, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Weedwhisker - for approval
...-- *Minn owc law*  02:00, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Way better than mine by a long shot. Just blend the shading on the thigh and he will be good. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 02:47, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Better?-- *Minn owc law*  02:55, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

the flecks look a little....weird, if you know what i mean. i'm sure Weedwhisker is hard, it's the 2nd already, huh? Maybe just make them like Ferncloud's spots.--Honeyrose34 01:00, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I acually really like the spots. I would put like, I don't know, one or two more on his head or face, it looks a little blank up there. And then I would put a few on his back, like half-showing, so we know they're up there(Sorry if that doesn't make sense)--Nightfall101 22:06, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Dawnflower (W) - for approval


Not much to say... --<span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 05:24, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

She's really pretty!!!Could you just make the pink in her ear darker? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 22:00, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Add a highlight on the top of the head and shading on the back of the head. Also, blur all of the highlights.-- *Minn owc law*  03:00, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded- fixed highlights, added shading/highlights on head. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 19:28, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is great. Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 21:36, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Troutstar- For Approval
My first leader. Comments?-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:21, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

It's nice, but does Reedstar have a description?--Nightfall101 23:27, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

His page had one and I checked its history.-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:31, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Cool! I think the highlights on his chest should be blurred some more--Nightfall101 23:45, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Could you thicken the shading a bit, and make it darker on the tail? I had some shading problems on blakc leaders too with Shadowstar...shudders don't make my mistake.-- Moss SC  23:50, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken all of the shading?-- Ashshadow My Clan 23:57, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe just on the tail. I can't really see any shading :).-- Moss SC  00:19, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

ReuploadedI noticed that his discreption is now changed.-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:37, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Add some highlights if you can becuase he's black cat and that makes the shading hard to see.-- *Minn owc law*  02:59, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I did add highlights. Should i just darken the shading some more?-- Ashshadow My Clan 20:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

No, don't darken the shading, brighten the highlights. The highlights aren't bright enough, and look like the normal fur color. Also, add a highlight on the head, possibily between the eyes. make sure to keep the eyes the same color, but a highlight on the head would look good. Also, make sure you don't make the highlights too big, otherwise we won't be able to see the actual fur color. --  Icy -chan  22:59, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

ReuploadedOkay I birghtened the highlights and added one to his head. Better?-- Ashshadow My Clan 16:47, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Uh uh. Wait. As Nightfall said, Reedstar doesn't have a description. I've checked Code of the Clans and changed the page. You can check Category:Leaders to see if there's another cat you can submit this as. -- Bramble -san  01:07, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

There's a leader in Code of the Clans named Darkstar, I think he was a leader of SkyClan, but I don't remember. All I know is he was the leader who came up with the "Leader's word is law" addition to the warrior code. Anyway, I don't know if had a description or not, but I seem to remember that this was how the book described him.--Nightfall101 01:18, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Okay I've changed him to Troutstar. I'll repost the image later.-- Ashshadow My Clan 20:36, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tried to lighten my old Reedstar but I might just start over. What do you guys think.-- Ashshadow My Clan 21:49, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

That might be best, because the highlights on this one are kinda messed up--Nightfall101 21:56, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I actually had Troutstar saved on my computer incase something like this happened. I think my highlights are terrible but, better than before. Comments?-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:11, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

He's almost there. Just blur the shading and highlights a tad and he'll be ready. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 21:37, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Shading and highlights are now blurred to the max. Better?-- Ashshadow My Clan 22:14, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Swiftfoot(MC) for approval
Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 23:29, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

blur the shading more.-- *Minn owc law*  23:33, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

looks like the pupil is gold. --Honeyrose34 23:32, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Blured the shading. Honeyrose I think what you're seeing in the eye is the highlight and it's supposed to be there. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:25, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading a bit, and he'll be ready. :) Nice job. -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 21:38, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Mossfire(W)-For Approval


Here is Mossfire!!My first tortie. Comments? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 23:11, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Oooh, pretty!! I was just blur it a little more. --Bluestar1776 23:36, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

That is so AWSOME! But, yes, I would blur it a little more, so her markings don't look to much like leaves. But this is wonderful!--Nightfall101 00:04, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-blured her. More Comments? ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 00:28, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

(S) - Maybe add a small patch on her face? Right now it looks pretty dark there. Other than that, I have nothing to say other than I love the pattern! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 14:27, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-added path on face. and thanks!! ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 00:30, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything but the ear pink needs to be a tad bigger to the right side. Other than that, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( I could go on all day!!!) { I just did it AGAIN! :) } --Honeyrose34 00:40, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-mover the ear pink more to the right. ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 01:05, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

One of the patches on the far front leg and the patch on the far hind leg need to be blurred. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 19:48, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploadedadded bluring on legs ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 23:40, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

So awesome.--Mousetalon 23:59, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!! ★ Hi dd en sun <font color="#ff1493">Talk 00:04, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong. This is great Hiddensun. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 19:22, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is truly amazing, Sunny. Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 21:39, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Smoketalon (W) - For Approval
*twitches* Well, not sure what to think about this...my first "mottled cat". I'm not quite sure if this is what a mottled cat looks like or not...Comments and Suggestions? --  Icy -chan  03:36, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred in a little more, but I like it otherwise.-- Darkhallows 00:11, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I've blurred it to the max now, but I think the problem is that the mottled spots are in the same spot as the shading, and when I blur them, it makes it look like the shading is too thick. Does this look any better? --  Icy -chan  02:12, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

This is ready. Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 21:39, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Emberfoot (W) - For Approval
Well, my firstcharart; Emberfoot of ShadowClan =). Comments? --<span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly! 12:15, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is incredible Holly! All I really have to say that it was never mentioned in his description whether it was only his front paws that were darker gray, so I would make them all dark. But other that that, I think this is amazing=)--Nightfall101 16:29, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Nightfall it does say with two Darker gray paws. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk

Oh, my bad sorry=)--Nightfall101 17:02, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Fantastic! All I can see is that you should add a couple of black pixels in the eye, one on the right pixel on the right, one right under that, and one to the left of that, so that you have one white, then the black, and then the color of the eye. (Sorry if that sounds too complicated, let me know if I need to rephrase it.) --  Icy -chan  20:56, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better now? -- <span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly!

Err... the eye looks kinda red. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:27, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. -- <span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly!

Oddfoot (W) - For Approval
Wow... I'm really proud of this picture! It has to be my best one yet :D! But that's not for me to decide. Constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 21:03, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Wow I really like how how you did the foot. Could you blur the stripes a little more.-- Ashshadow My Clan 21:10, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful! Maybe make the stripes on the tail darker, and blue the stripes as Ashshadow said. I love the paw! --  Icy -chan  21:12, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Poor Oddfoot...saddest name ever...anyways good job!!! Except on the foot you fixed, the ankle-ish part looks a little thin.-- Moss SC  21:17, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Thanks everyone:D And, I agree, Mosspath. What posessed Oddfoot's mother to name him that? Now he has to be reminded of his disfigurement every time someone calls him by his name. *shakes head in shame* Anyway, constructments? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 21:39, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's awsome! And I agree too, Lilystem named her kit Crookedkit, so. But he grew up to be Crookedstar, and showed everybody! But his name could have been changed, Deadfoot probably was never Deadkit, that would be awful!--Nightfall101 21:47, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Eww what kind of sick queen would name their kit Deadkit? I blame his leader for naming him Deadfoot. And this looks awesome now!!!-- Moss SC  21:51, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, in an Erin Hunter chat, they said that Deadfoot's paw got messed up when a boulder fell on top of it at a very young age. So it could have been changed to Deadpaw at his apprentice ceremony--Nightfall101 21:55, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Hm, that's possible. But, Tallstar was most likely the leader then. Based on his personality, I don't think he'd be that cruel. Perhaps Deadfoot chose to change his name, like Halftail or One-eye. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 22:11, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

True. Ya know, I don't really think the Erins put all this into account when creating his character=)--Nightfall101 22:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

This is beautiful! I love how you did the paw! But something makes me think that the foreleg with the deformed paw is longer than the other leg. Great job! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:25, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Thankies! And, the "deformed paw leg" is supposed to look longer than the other one because the normal foreleg is on the other side of the body, or something. In reality though, both legs are the same size. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 19:46, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Then don't mind what I said above about the leg. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 14:18, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Most of this has just been talk about his name... the leg looks really good if you ask me and I see no other problems. Comments before approval? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:54, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Oops, sorry Sandy! And thanks! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:03, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Hawktalon. I see nothing wrong. Comments before approval? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 21:43, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Daisyheart-- For Approval!
Here's my 1st, well...2nd. Besides that here's Daisyheart. Not fond of the name but thought she would be easy for me. Comments? Concerns? --Honeyrose34 00:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is a huge improvement! I would maybe thicken the shading a little more, and there's a line of white running through her whiskers where it should be ginger. Also, there is a lot of blurred lineart--Nightfall101 00:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Good job Honeyrose. I think you used the thumbnail version instead of the full size for the blank. Can you make it bigger?-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:29, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, i honestly don't know how, i didn't even realize till you said that. I just uploaded it up and it just did that. Please tell me how!! --Honeyrose34 00:31, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else, still don't know about picture size...--Honeyrose34 00:35, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

There's still some blurred lineart, and I can a spot that needs to be blurred right around the base of the tail--Nightfall101 00:41, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Okay how to make the Charart bigger (sorry you have to re-do it) You click on the blank on the PCA Project page. Then it will bring you to a page. You click on the blank again (left click) press "save picture as" then do what you nomarlly do. (Does this spund confusing?) I hope this helped you! <font color="#0000ff" style="background:Lime">Icestorm <font color="#add8e6" style="background:Blue">May StarClan Light Your Path! 00:47, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Icestorm-- i DO do that. I didn't have a problem with Whiskerpaw before. See him in the #25 declined at the bottom. You'll see what i mean.

Nightfall-- i don't know what you mean about the tail need to be blurred thing. Could you maybe upload my Daisyheart and then circle it or something, i don't understand.

Okay, any MORE comments!? --Honeyrose34 00:52, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I can post the full sized blank to your talk page if it would help.-- Ashshadow My Clan 01:01, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

That would be great. You know, this is the 2nd time you offered to save my butt. I thank you SO much. Do any of my real friends at school help? No, they don't like Warriors, only Twilight. Exept for one kid. I don't know what she like's to read. Back to the real world, thanks Ashshadow!!! --Honeyrose34 01:08, November 21, 2009 (UTC)



The red shows where the lineart is blurred--Nightfall101 01:22, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I managed to make it large for you, I did have to redo the eye, because the resizing killed it. I hope you don't mind.-- Darkhallows 11:39, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Shady: How on earth did you resize it without blurring it? I have longed to know how to do that. Honeyrose: The shading needs to be thicker and needs to be on the white as well as the ginger areas - try making your white slightly off-white so shading will show up. Also, blend your shading. The ear pink needs to be a central smallish triangle of a rosy/salmon pink colour ad blurred. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:19, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

The edges were a little blurred, so I just made it a little bigger then the lineart and erased them. If that makes any sense.-- Darkhallows 11:52, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

!!!!!!!! I'm so excited! Thanks SO SO SO much! This helped me a WHOLE lot better, Shady. I'll fix the blurred spots Sandy and Nightfall. I know, i wasn't able to reply yesterday, but i went to see New Moon. It was really got but long because we had a half hour of credits to wait for more and more people to come in. Man, it took a long time but it was totally worth it!!! --Honeyrose34 15:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

I was just editing her when i saw that i didn't blur the line art, the line art black just messed up the ginger when i was bluring. I'm right now trying to fix it. Sorry 'bout that kind of confusion! --Honeyrose34 15:43, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Forget my last comment, i almost forgot that Shady redid it for me. Man, i'm really dumb........... Sorry again. I'm on a roll w/ these 'sorrys'! --Honeyrose34 15:46, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded -the new image is at the top. i just darkened the shading a tad. Any more comments? --Honeyrose34 16:02, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfoot- For Approval
Here she is! Comments? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 02:31, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I like it! But I think I can see some red on her shoulder, belly, and hindleg--Nightfall101 02:39, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

And the right eye looks kinda....creepy--Nightfall101 04:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I like it too :). All I can see is, that the pink in the ears probably needs to be blend a little. --<span style="color: Red; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Green; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Red;">Holly!

Nightfall, she's looking to one side, like she's looking over her shoulder. But I admit, it kind of makes it look creepy-like. Anyway, the ear pink could be shifted to the left more (our left) and the highlights + shading needs to be blurred more. Plus, the eye should have more than one shade of color in it. Otherwise, she's great! --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:23, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I changed the title so it's spelled right, hope you don't mind. I love the cat by the way. Maybe just make the eyes a little less creepy. * shudders * --Honeyrose34 16:31, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Cloudy Sun (E) - For Approval
Not much to say about her... ooh, except that I gave her some pale tabby stripes as I can't imagine a ginger cat without tabby stripes. Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 11:17, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

This is really good! But there are ginger cats with barely any tabby stripes. I think they're called solid red cats: They only have stripes on their head and legs. Sorry if I sound like a know-it-all or anythingXD --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

lol Don't worry Hawk =) I'll sort it later. Ignoring that then, is there anything else so I can do it all at once =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:32, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Ooh, that's a nice nickname for me :D I think I'll keep itXD Anyway, maybe the ear pink could be more of a salmon color; it looks kind of hot pink now. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:36, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Okay: reuploaded. There wasn't really very much of the legs showing so I did my best. Comments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:13, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Actually just blend the tail and it will be good to be approved. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 19:20, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Snaketooth - For Approval
My first one!!!! Criticism WANTED!!!!! I'm trying to learn as much as I can to improve him. . . comments?--Mousetalon 18:36, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

This is actually pretty good for a first attempt =) I have a few things to mention though: 1)He is described as a dark brown tabby - could you make his fur colour a little darker? Something like the colour of Tigerstar, Voletooth or Toadfoot. 2) The tabby stripes are good, but there are a couple that look a little odd such as near the base of his tail - just tweak it to make it more of a natural shape. 3) This needs shading, or more shading. There are a few different styles so have a look at some approved pixels for inspiration! The main different styles are: Mousefang, White-eye and Runningwind. 4) The ear pink needs to be smaller and more of a rosy colour. See Brightheart. 5) The highlights need to be a little bigger and blended a lot more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC) '''

Reuploaded''' Darkened him A LOT. Can't see the tabby stripes too well, but I think it's better. Shaded as well and fixed the ear.--Mousetalon 23:46, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I know, I just did, but I wanted better highlights and tabby stripes.--Mousetalon 23:56, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

The front of him is really blurry.-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:07, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Un-blurred him a bit. Better?--Mousetalon 00:50, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry by the front of him I ment the lineart in the front. That still needs to be fixed-- Ashshadow My Clan 00:54, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

OH!!!! Let me fix that! Reuploaded I think that's good.--Mousetalon 01:23, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

The cat needs eye color. right now, it's just black. Make it like blue, green or amber. if the page doesn't say, just do one of the randomly. --Honeyrose34 16:04, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I gave him amber eyes, they looked better than blue or green.--Mousetalon 19:14, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Great job. I see that the one tabby mark near the center of his flank seems.....hollow. I don't know if that makes sense or not it seems like it was kind-of painted. if you don't know what i mean, just ask. --Honeyrose34 21:12, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed it. Thanks, I think that happened when I was fixing the blur on his chest.--Mousetalon 21:17, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - His eyes need a pupil. Try looking at some of the approved warriors for help. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:02, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Cloud with Storm in Belly (E) - For Approval
Okay, my second elder of the day ^_^ Constructments? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:04, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! You might want to take that black dot off it's chest though.--Mousetalon 19:08, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks =) The black dash is part of the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

It looks great! All I see is that the eye could have more than one shade of color in it. --<span style="color:DarkGreen; background:Red; font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; orange;">Rainwhisker 09 19:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Done. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 21:19, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Try to make the ear pink follow the shape of the ear more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:03, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Molewhisker (W)-For Aproval
Well, here's my second charart, it's Molewhisker from Code of the Clans. It never said his eye color, so I made them amber. What do you think?

The color's perfect, Just blend the shading and highlights, Night. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; background:lime; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">Hawkfire Talk! 04:35, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I blurred the shading and highlights as much as I could. Better?--Nightfall101 04:59, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Littlebird- for approval
Huh... I don't usually do gingers. Is she alright?-- Darkhallows 11:50, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ooooh, I like it!! The only thing I can say is the red on the tail tip needs to be blurred a bit. Other than that, it's great! --Bluestar1776 14:56, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

That's really good. I agree with Bluestar1776- just a little blurring and it's good to go!--Mousetalon 15:02, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, my gosh, this is beautiful! The texture is spot on and it looks so 3D and... gah, how do you do that!? *drowns in flood of awesomeness* Just do what they said above and this should be ready:D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 15:59, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

You know, everytime i come up with a good warrior name for my books or just random stuff, it seems like the Erin's always steal them! Argggg..... Besides that GREAT job! All i see is the back ear is a little too dark from the shading. Lighten it up and you'll be good to go! --Honeyrose34 16:08, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Splashnose - For Approval
I felt kinda bad about cluttering up the page, but I figured that a few images are in the 24-hour stage already and it will be emptier fairly soon, so... here's Splashnose. The best name I can think of for a cat with a white splash on her nose, lol. Anyway, comments? -- ♫ Ec h om i st <font color="Indigo">Talk♦<font color="Purple">Contribs 15:49, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ooh, I like this one! I don't see anything wrong with it! What program do you use to color chararts, by the way? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:Purple; background:Thistle;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em;color:Purple;">Hawktalon Talk 16:01, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Fantastic as usual! The only thing I can see is that, this may be my computer, but there's some gray above her back and below her belly. --  Icy -chan  16:21, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

This looks great! Icethroat is right though -the shading has darkened the background Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:23, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Jayfeather(k)- For Approval
Um, am I allowed to do this? But this is my first charcat. Jayfeather: a tough guy, kitten days. Fur all soft and lighter. Comments? <span style="font-family:papyrus; color;black; background:purple; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Faithlark Talk :) 22:15, November 22, 2009 (UTC)