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Leafstar's Mother- Silver Nomination
All of her history is in place; all I had to do was fix a couple links. She seems ready to me. Echo star  Getting a tan 14:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

I changed Leafstar's status to unknown. I agree that she is ready. 15:02, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

She needs a family tree, then she'll be ready. Oblivion  Fly my pretties, fly...  19:07, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I doubt there has been one made since there are only two members of the family that we know of. Which brings up another point, do we really need a tree since Leafstar is the only member of the family we have a name for? There are only two people and only one is named. It seems unessecary for me, but that is just my opinion. 20:32, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... makes sense. It'd just be

Unknown-Unknown



Leafstar

I changed my mind. She doesn't need one XP Oblivion   Fly my pretties, fly...  20:36, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

There isn't really anything else to add, I don't think. Any other comments or suggestions? I think she's ready. Echo star  Getting a tan 20:45, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I am supporting! 21:26, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

She looks good to me. Oblivion  Fly my pretties, fly...  11:06, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. ♥Ice storm★  14:10, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Billystorm her mate now? I mean if you've read SkyClan's DestinyWillow pool "Let's look for donuts in the wilderness!"  01:40, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Not Leafstar. We are currently talking about Leafstar's mother. •Maple fern• Happy Canada Day! 15:21, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Im new but I agree that she is ready, and doesnt need a family tree. ^^ Shadowstar 01:00, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

What I said earlier; that wasn't supposed to be there. Oops :P. Otherwise I say the article is fine. Willow pool "Let's look for donuts in the wilderness!"  23:19, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

She looks fine to me - comments before the vote? 23:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

her vote's up now. 12:50, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Kestrelwing - Silver Nomination
I think he's ready. What do you think? Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  02:12, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. 19:25, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

I looked over it very carefully and I cant find much that needs work, I support!!! ^^ Shadowstar 00:56, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I checked it, and I was thinking that I would find at least something but I didn't!! He's such a minor character. I'm surprised. -- &lt;&gt;Rosey&lt;&gt; R.I.P, Honeyfern

Supporting. 19:39, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I support. Shadeflower Warrior of StarClan 14:11, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yup, his page looks fine - comments before the vote? 12:50, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Cloudspots - Silver Nomination
I think he's ready. For a minor character, there's not much more to add. Do you all agree? Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  02:09, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I was just about to suggest that LOL... Yeah I support!!!!! Shadowstar 13:37, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I also promoted him to bronze status because he was only on started status. 15:03, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Whitestorm. I meant to do that, but never got to it. Moon flight  Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ  01:28, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Your welcome. :) 02:05, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. 19:39, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

yup, he's got all the info he needs. Comments before the vote? 12:50, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ashfur (SC)- Silver Nomination
He only appears in one book, and I think we've got that covered. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 15:56, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

His article looks really good! He deserves Silver. 16:07, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

My only problem with him is his Rising Storm section. Did it really say he died from the sickness or was that just an assumption? If it was just a guess we need to say he was just listed in the allegiances, but he wan't listed in ''A Dangerous Path. ''Then say, that he most likely died from the sickness from the Carrionplace. Besides that, he looks good. 18:57, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Maple! He looks fine now. Supporting. 00:12, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Supporrting. :P 19:40, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good, comments before the vote goes up? 12:56, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Onion - Silver Nomination
I basically did her whole article myself: added eye colour cite, history, and quotes. I think she deserves silver. 23:46, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting!! Good work by the way!! Shadowstar and Blueshine 23:48, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

She has my vote. 23:57, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. 01:13, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I just realized she appeared during the battle with Dodge. I added it. Now she's ready :) 17:26, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Great work, Oblivion. :) Supporting. 19:40, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, she's good, comments before I put up the vote? 12:56, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Seedpelt- Silver Nomination
When I came across the article it was already pretty good. All I did was add quotes and expand history. She is ready. 00:14, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. I escpecially liked that second quote you added XP 00:23, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Haha me to :3 Shadowstar and Blueshine 00:42, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

She's ready. 01:13, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I was so excited when I found that quote. I was like, "this is perfect!" Hahaha 01:42, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think she's ready. :) 19:41, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

His page is fine - any comments before the vote will be put up? 12:56, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Billystorm - Silver Nomination
His history is well expanded. He has a quote, and references. I'm looking into SD and finding more quotes. But right now, it's fine to me. 01:47, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. 01:49, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

HIs history looks good, but you are right he needs probably at least two more quotes, if possible. I also moved his status from started to bronze. 02:04, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I can do that. 02:15, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, done. I hope the quotes are okay. I also added his history in the manga adventure at the back. 02:42, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

He looks fine. Supporting. 11:25, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think Billystorm is ready. 19:42, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Pad - Silver Nomination
I have no idea if I'm doing this right, but I'd like to nominate Pad for silver. 雨晶須 夏天來了! 02:13, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

His description needs to be cited, and if possible could he have some quotes? I wouldn't know because I don't own the book. Also, if possible could the history be expanded. 11:28, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

I cited his description (using the Browse Inside), but I don't own the book, so I can't add quotes. Could someone else help? Rain whisker  00:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

His history and description look good. But, the quotes are still an issue. Like Blackclaw said, can someone that owns the book help? 02:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't own it. I'd help if I could. 02:25, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I own a copy but im not sure where it is at the moment when or if I find it I will add some. 18:14, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ok Thanks Shadowshine. 18:26, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oakheart- Silver Nomination
I expanded his history, added quotes, cited, and fixed up his Charcat. Comments? 16:16, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good! On his charcat, I changed "kits" to "son" and "daughters". I also moved the Endspoiler to before the references, but that doesn't really matter XP 16:31, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. 17:51, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks Oblivion! 18:50, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Barkface -- Silver Nomination
I looked over everything, and it seems good enough. Opinions? 20:22, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

The Darkest Hour, Sunset, and The Sight could all be expanded. Also, if possible he could use another quote or two. He's been much mor imprpved since last time, though. 20:29, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't been able to work on this. I will as soon as I can which is soon! 22:31, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Dovepaw - Silver Nomination
I think she's ready for silver, I added a couple quotes to her page, and the info of her in the books seems to be sumed up pretty good. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 01:18, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I am supporting. Excellent work Riverpelt! Well done! 01:45, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Whitestorm! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 14:18, August 21, 2010 (UTC

Supporting(: Nice work!! ShadowstarandBlueshine remember Moonclan 16:19, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Brambleclaw - Gold Nomination
His article looks really good to me, and he's been featured. I think he's ready for gold. 18:42, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, he does look good, but I found some things that could be worked on. His whole description is just cited as "Forest of Secrets", and that's all it says, it needs to have a page number, and I doubt that all of his description was revealed then. Also, his Moonrise and Eclipse sections could be expanded, besides that he looks okay. 18:53, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

All of the sections could be expanded a lot-- 18:56, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

All of the sections? I mean, most of his history is pretty expanded. 19:00, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, the article shouldn't qualify even for silver, let alone for gold. History sections need major expansion, mainly the New Prophecy, which consist only of a couple of lines even though he was a main character. Description needs exact citation (I doubt he was described in Forest of Secrets as "broad-shouldered and muscular", as he was a newborn kit then). More quotes (and more relevant ones) need to be added, especially from the New Prophecy. 19:22, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I guess he does need some work... mainly The New Prophecy, since he actually had a point of view then. 20:34, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I can do only Midnight and Moonrise, because that's the only NP books I have, but I can work on it. 21:19, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps I could look for a few quotes. 00:08, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I will find some time to expand and update the New Prophecy sections in the coming days. 12:05, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Book Appearances
I've been meaning to do this for a while now, and have been putting it off until now. So... what should we put for live/deadbooks in the charcat? Most characters have only the books from the main story arcs (OS, NP, P3, OTS), with no Super Editions, Manga, or Field guides. I always thought this was the right way to do it, so I'm kind of just asking. 02:28, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I was under the impression that it was all books they appear in (and only appearances from StarClan/DF do in Deadbooks). I don't think I've ever seen a page with the way you described but maybe that's just me being spacey. 02:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

There's a lot. Bluestar, Dustpelt, Brokenstar, and Firestar all have it. There's many more, but I don't want to list them all O_O 02:34, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I've seen it on most character pages as adding Super Editions and Mangas, but no Field Guides. There should be a rule about this, though. 02:36, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, Whitestorm. Insane, what do you think? 02:55, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think that all books they appear in should be listed there. They're still appearances, no matter what type of book it is, so why not put them? And I know that that's the way it was when I first joined... I don't know how suddenly so many pages aren't like that. 15:11, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Umm... anyone agree/disagree? I want to get a consensus before I archive this so there's no more confusion 12:44, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

What you said makes sense. But do we include even the mangas, because it seems they shouldn't be on there... 16:07, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Why shouldn't the mangas be on there? They are real books... and besides, if we didn't include the manga, what would happen for characters who only appear in the manga? Same goes for any other category of book. 16:40, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

All right. 16:44, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hollyleaf - Silver Nomination
Hollyleaf's article is well expanded. She has ciations, quotes and a full history. Other than that, her article looks good and worthy for Silver Nomination. 17:56, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

She could use a longer quote. I'd do it myself, but I don't have any of my books with me D: 18:06, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes she needs another quote, possibly when she is basically screaming at Leafpool in Sunrise? LOL! I'll trying hunting in my mess that I call my room, to see if I can find the Sunrise. Besides that, she has my support. 01:20, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I added a quote from Sunrise from when she is telling all of the cats who her true parents are. She has my support too. Silverstorm4ever 23:12, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Dappletail - Silver Nomination
I think she should be ready for silver after a little tweeking. -- Rosey Stupid School!!

Moonrise needs expanding, and she could use some quotes. 16:54, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'll do the quotes if somebody can tell me how to do! lol! -- Rosey Stupid School!!

Personally, I don't think she is ready for silver. Almost all of the history could be expanded, needs a few quotes, and is that family tree really nessecary? I mean, all it says is Dappletail had unidentified kits with an unidentified tom. If she is going to be silver, she needs a lot of work. Honeyrose, I will leave a message on your talk page explaining quotes later. 22:39, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, only a few parts of the history is fine, but most could use expanding. 01:11, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, quotes are done. Sorry it took so long. But...they're done! -- Badgers with Lollipops ~ Honeyrose34

Um..should we delete the tree? -- Badgers with Lollipops ~ Honeyrose34

Snipe - Silver Nomination
I'm nominating Snipe for Silver. I cited his description, added some quotes, and expanded the history a little. 19:03, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

If possible, his history could still be expanded. I'm not sure if it can because I don't own the book, but he only appears in one book and he most likely will never appear again, his history should be fleshed out as much as possible. Try to expand it. 22:34, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Family Trees
Reacting to Whitestorm's remark in Dappletail's section above: yes, I guess we go way overboard with the family trees, such as when making templates like this, which add nothing to the article. Trees are useful and informative only when there are lots of relatives like on Bluestar's Tree or Adderfang's Tree. There is no use making charts only to show that a cat had unknown kits with an unknown tom, or to show that two cats are siblings with unknown parents. Maybe we should have established a guideline, such as "trees should be made only if there are at least 4 known related cats in the chart". Anyway, this is only my view and I guess there is no reason (or time) for starting to remove information that is already in place in the articles... I just felt that I should point this out. *hides* :) 20:10, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed... I don't know why someone even bothered making one for Dappletail. Personally, I think trees are worth having if at least two members are known - like in Template:Nightwing Tree or others, even though they are pretty small they still can help people get a sense of the family. But that one on Dappletail's is literally just saying that she has an unknown family. We might as well make one of those for every single minor character saying they have unknown parents if we have that! As you said, it doesn't add any info to the article. 20:20, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that is something that I have never got. Like, see Template:Leafstar Tree, all is says is Leafstar and an unamed she-cat, and duh! It was a she-cat. Lol! Yes, I think it should only be if we know three of the family members. 12:50, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

New Content Drive
Wow... Mistystar's been up there for a looong time. Longer that it should be. That's probably due to my semi-absence but now that I'm back (for the most part) let's find a new article that needs some work! Does anyone have suggestions for the content drive? I recall that Firestar was suggested way-back-when we picked Mistystar. Thoughts/suggestions? 23:26, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I was just thinking that she should be taken down as well. Ok, here is my idea for the next Content Drive (it's kind of far-fetched but I think it would work). I was thinking that we could do some of the "younger warriors", by that I mean like Bumblestripe, Blossomfall, Briarlight, Foxleap, Icecloud, Rosepetal, Toadstep, Cinderheart, Lionblaze, Poppyfrost, and Jayfeather. The reason why I am suggesting this is, most of their articles need a lot of work, but they are the main characters now that the point of view has switched to younger cats. Tell me what you think. 12:57, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I know that this is a stupid question but since I'm new, maybe not. Anyway, what IS a Content Drive? Thanks. -- ~Honeyrose34~ 17:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

A Content Drive is when we decide on an article that especially needs help and we work on it for a while. I also agree with Whitestorm17's idea. All of those articles could use some help. Silverstorm4ever 02:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I agree, the one that I think needs the most work is Poppyfrost in my opinion. ShadowandBlue 14:42, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe Brambleclaw? I understand he is up for nomination, though, but he won't be approved for awhile. 17:33, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Fallowtail: Silver Nomination
I think Fallowtail is ready. But I'm kind of new and are looking for suggestions. Ic eh ea rt    Will the thaw ever come? : 06:43, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

She looks pretty good, but if possible could her Battles of the Clans history be expanded? I don't have the book with me, so I can't. It would be good too, since that is the only book she really "appears" in. 13:00, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry that took so long, i lent out my BotC, but i expanded it more now. --  Ic eh ea rt     Will the thaw ever come? : 19:13, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Idea for quotes
I saw this template on another wiki and thought it looked really cool. We can change the colour of it for whichever Clan the character is in, or if they are a rogue, kittypet, etc.

I'm still not quite sure how to get the colour to work. I have a feeling it will only work once it's an actual template. The way I think would be good for the quotes to be on articles is to have them scattered over a few places. For example, on Firestar's page we could have an important quote at the top of the article, then a quote from The Darkest Hour somewhere in that section. Comments?-- 06:51, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ohh! Sounds like a good idea. Reminds me of Avatar Wiki. Anyways, yes, I think we should create and use this template. 12:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I kind of like the idea for the colors, but I'm not so sure about scattering the quotes all over the article. I think it would work better if they were in one spot. 14:05, August 29, 2010 (UTC) It sounds like a good idea. Shadeflower Warrior of StarClan 14:09, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah... scattering the quotes might seem cool, but it would take ages to set up and would make them harder to add/remove/go over. I'm not sure about the template though.. it looks nice, but it looks as if it is really meant for the quotes to not be together, I don't think it'd look very good with them all together... and I'd really rather not scatter them =/ 12:44, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly, Insane. It would look wierd with all of them together, but it would take a lot of time to set up. 21:42, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

What about, a important quote on top of the article with the template, and then the rest of the quotes just...normal? 22:02, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Oooohhh.. excellent idea Icestorm! :D We could have the best quote that the article has at the top, kind of like an introduction to the article. I support that idea. Also, if we are going to use that template, shouldn't we add it to the list of templates? Sorry, I'm not real good with templates, so I hope you understand what I'm saying. :P 22:39, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. :) And yes, we should. 19:03, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Ceremony's
Ive seen that some of the ceremony's are hidden and others are open as for instence Thornclaw his warrior ceremony is poped up and Brightheart all of her ceremonys are hidden. Is there a reson for this?? ShadowandBlue 14:54, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

They should all be hidden. I don't know why some of them aren't. 22:36, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

There are two templates: Warrior Ceremony, which is an old version and being phased out, and Ceremony which is the new (and much more flexible) version, able to handle all ceremonies, and all pages should be changed to use it. It is on my to-do list but I don't know when will I have time for it, I appreciate any help. Here is a list of pages that still link to the old template and should be replaced with the new one (be careful, the coding is different). Here is a related discussion. Kind regards, 12:02, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks Helix! I love working with the ceremony templates, so I'll try working on that list. :) 12:12, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Darkstripe - Silver Nomination
Darkstripe's article looks very good. Opinions? 21:44, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

He looks really good. Supporting. 22:00, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. 22:01, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Supporting. 22:02, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. I don't really see much. -- Badgers with Lollipops!~Honeyrose34 22:19, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting. ＩShadowandBlueＩ 00:29, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Ceremonys
I saw that some pages have ceremonys. Are they optional? And where can you put them? Are they only for main characters? Willow heart  1231  00:35, August 31, 2010 (UTC)Willowheart1231

Any page should have any ceremonies that character had, not just main characters. I believe they are placed under the quotes, right before References and Citations. Though, i'm not sure if that is official or not. 11:46, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

We should have some kind of a rule about this, as I've seen some pages where the ceremony is before the quotes, and some after. Thoughts? 12:56, August 31, 2010 (UTC)