Warriors Wiki talk:Charart

Buzzardtail- For approval
Well, this is my first charart... Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 15:37, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good for your first charart, I only see a few problems:


 * Add shading and blend it, making it look real
 * Blend the ear pink and make it darker, it looks fluro
 * Add highlights on the pelt

Hawkey  Ready for action 17:22, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I can't see any shading, add some and use the blur tool to make his pelt seem for 3-D. And blur the ear, make it not as bright. -- Peacesong Click Here To Go To........My Talk Page 18:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

They're right. Make the ear pink a triangle shape in the centre of the ear and blend a little. Despite what Hawke said above, don't add highlights until you've got the shading sussed as it'll make it more difficult and the image may not even need them. Get the shading and ear sorted and then see about highlights. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:23, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

OK. I'll fix that stuff. Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 20:00, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Can someone give me some tips on shading? I always get it too dark, and I don't know where to put it. Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 20:11, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really good at shading, either, but what I did was get the smudge tool, set the brush size to about 3 or 5, and then just smudge from the outline. (I did this in Pixlr.) And then I blurred it together by clicking on the blur tool and setting it to about 3-5. As I said, I'm not really sure about the best shading tips, but maybe that can help a little bit. Also, I noticed a couple of other things.

Icethroat21 Hi, how's the prey running? 00:11, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
 * The right ear is just a little bit darker than the rest of his fur.
 * Try blending the ear pink some more. The ear pink it really standing out right now.

Thanks! I'll go fix that stuff. Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 00:53, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay. Anything else? Morningleaf Fox Cub Wolf Pup 00:21, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

I think the shading is on the back, the hind leg, and where the tail connects to his body. And the back ear should be darker as well. -- Rain whisker 09 18:16, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I tried to get it similar to some of the approved images, but it doesn't look quite right to me.... :( <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:28, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading into the pelt. -- Rain whisker 09 20:07, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

It needs a lot more shading. I can tell you used some, but I can barely see it. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:13, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

ReuploadedOkay, I have made the shading darker, and blended it as much as I could. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 23:55, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

You've now blurred the whole outline. Make the ear pink smaller, more central and a slightly paler colour. There is a smudge of lineart above her nose. Unblur the outline and then make the shading thicker and blend it (without touching the lineart) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:25, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the ear, and tried to fix the shading, but I still can't get it right :( <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 16:02, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry Morningleaf! You'll get it eventually - it takes most people a few tries. You've got the ear pink sorted now, which is good. On the shading, it's now the right darkness and thickness, just a little blotchy. You need to keep it as one clean consistent ine. Then blend the inside edges carefully so they start to run into the rest of the colour. Do not use the smudge tool though as this will make it streaky. Also, you need to remove the shading a little from the muzzle and a coupe of other places. At the moment you have shading following the whole lineart. Just choose the direction of your light source and then think about where the shadows would fall and put your shading there. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:15, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Try blending the shading with the blur tool; in pixlr, the blur tool is the one that looks like a rain drop, and when you hold the mouse over it, I think it says "Blur Tool", but I can't remember...but that should blend it. I highly reccomend putting the brush size at about 3-7 (square), and keeping the strength at 100.


 * If you accidentally hit the lineart inside the picture, make sure to color back in the lineart pixels by putting the pencil brush at size 1 (circle or square, doesn't matter), and put the color to black. Then, just color where the lineart is blurred, and the lineart should return.
 * If you accidentally blurred/smudged it outside of the picture, then just put the eraser at 1 and erase the spots outside of the lineart.

I hope this can help some! And don't worry, you'll get the hang of it eventually! It just takes time and practice. :) Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:37, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention this: there is so much shading on the front leg, that I can barely see its actual color. Try using less shading there. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 18:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Icethroat. Also, you need to blend the shading. Last, there are like, little spots in between the shading. you need to get rid of that.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:42, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I really agree with Swallowtip, the need to be removed, you probably made the spots because you first shaded it, then added some more shading in some parts, so the shading is darker where the spots are. Remove the spots, blend the shading. -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Proud Owner of a Imaginary Panda! 00:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll work on it later today. I am very busy with school right now, so please don't decline this. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 12:14, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I got rid of the spots. Anything else? <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:52, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Use this diagram for how to do the eye:. Also, you're shading looks nicer now, but increase it a bit and make sure you blur the transition so there's no hard line. Darken the ear pink a little bit as well. -- Bramble ’-san'  22:14, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed the ear pink and the shading and blended it as much as I could. <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 20:24, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

You hit the shading right on the nail, but the ear pink needs to be darker and smaller.Minnowclaw 01:48, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

You've accidentally blurred the lineart over the eye. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 10:59, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

You actualy need shading on the tail far fore-paw and far hind-paw.Minnowclaw 21:31, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

kk, fixed it (I think) <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 22:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

The shading needs blended some more, there's too hard of a line in the transition between the shading and the actual fur. Also, the tail needs some shading, and so does the chin. But don't use the smudge tool for this, use the burn tool on midtones at about 50 percent, with the brush size somewhere aruond 1 to 5, depending on where you're shading. Play around with it until you find what suits you best. Also, fix the ear pink just a little bit, it looks oval-ish right now. It needs to be more triangular, like the ear itself, with some space and light shading in between. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:51, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded <font color="Cyan" style="background:MistyRose">Morningleaf <font color="Orange" style="background:PeachPuff">Fox Cub <font color="Yellow" style="background:LightBlue">Wolf Pup 19:48, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks more purple than pink, but it may just be my computer screen. But the shading needs to be thickened, and it's too dark. Try using the burn tool like before, for the shading, instead of the smudge tool for shading. (sorry, I've discovered that the burn tool is much better than the smudge tool.) And to lighten the shading, use the dodge tool. Make sure you blend the shading into the fur as well, so there's a smooth transition of colors. Right now, there's still too much of a hard line. Also, the shading on the top of the head looks very abnormal, and needs to curve where the head lineart does, and there's some blurred lineart that needs un-blurred. To do that, just turn the gray pixels to black again with the pencil. Woah, long comment. The shading on the chin looks very good, by the way. :) Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:25, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Blend in the shading on top of the head. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 19:58, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Stripes- For Approval
Heres my first rogue! It took forever to do the stripes! Comments? Hawkey  Ready for action 17:17, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfire, this is beautiful! The only things I can see are: 1. the ear pink is too light and needs to be blurred 2. the shading needs to be darker and look more like shading; right now it just looks like blobs of darker color. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess 17:34, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M)- I love the pattern of your stripes! Just do what Sparrowsong suggested and it should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? Darkened shading and ear pink Hawkey  Ready for action 00:31, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

The shading should be blurred into the pelt a little more.-- Darkhallows My den 04:48, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Ugh, I tried but whenever I try to blur the shading, it messes up the stripes. I may just have to withdraw this if I don't figure out something Hawkey  Ready for action 20:22, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the back is too much, try bluring it! -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 22:59, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

My only suggestion would be to lighten the shading so it doesn't look so dark compared to the pelt. But then the shading wouldn't be there so... -- Rain whisker 09 12:08, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I know I don't have the power but work on this, it's going to be declined.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:43, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

It still has two days Swallowtip. Also, please try and avoid caps- it's ike your shouting. Use italics for emphasis. or bold. Hawkey: Just lighten the back shading a little more. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 19:26, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Ooops, my bad. Sorry hawky, this is very good and I didn't mean to shout. My laptops bugging up, I though I was outting it out of caps.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 15:56, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Swallowtip: That's why they make the preview button before you click save page. Hawkfire: To lighten the shading, but not mess up the stripes, try using the dodge tool. Otherwise, it looks very good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 16:38, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I have tried the dodge tool. And secondly, sorry I have been gone, very busy in the past week. You can't really expect me to be on every minute. And Swallowtip, I forgive you but don't yell at me anymore, especially in caps!  HA WK FI RE98  17:20, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

I think you accidentally lightened the stripes while you were using the dodge tool on the shading. -- Rain whisker 09 12:36, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

The shading now needs to be redone. Don’t do it as dark as it was, and make sure the transition line is blended thoroughly. -- Bramble -san  02:41, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Okay I redid the shading and added highlights.  HA WK FI RE98  23:48, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

I added transparency to the image, and I think he's ready. Good job, Hawkey. Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  20:12, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedleaf-For Approval
This is Spottedleaf!!Please tell me how to make her better!!<span style="color:Orange;background:Blue;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Shim-Shim ★ 22:05, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I like this alot! :D Just darken the shading on the bottem of the herbs a bit more. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

The one thing that's realy bothering me is her tail - it looks striped. :\ -- Quiet !...

She looks to... blurry. -- Darkhallows Lair 04:19, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Her tail is suppose to be a brown TABBY tail.<span style="color:Orange;background:Blue;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Shim-Shim ★ 17:20, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Darn it, her description is WAY too long for me to remember correctly. >w< -- Quiet !... 19:51, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I think her tail is supposed to be white tipped. I agree her description is rather complacated. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:56, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

where does it say that she has a white tipped tail?<span style="color:Orange;background:Blue;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Shim-Shim ★ 17:05, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

My bad. You were right, it's black tipped. By the way I love the image. I see nothing wrong. Hope it gets approved. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 18:02, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

She's like my favourite character!!nice job!!!<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">ღ Şũήמy ღ 18:10, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Love the image, but I do think you blurred her alot and with the shading you could lighten it up some on the paws. They so close to gray, that they should atleast give some closeness to white. On her back I can't really tell if you gave her any shading at all.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 21:49, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Shimmer, you haven't worked on this in almost 2 weeks. Please work on her soon or she'll have to be declined. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:58, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

sorry please don't decline her i just had tons of homework so i couldn't work on her.<span style="color:Orange;background:Blue;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Shim-Shim ★ 16:23, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded-tell me is anything is wrong with her.oh and really sorry i stopped working on her.<span style="color:Orange;background:Blue;font-family:Papyrus;border:1px dotted; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;">Shim-Shim ★ 16:33, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Ummmmm, looks good by me.Minnowclaw 01:46, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

She looks good by me except she looks… chalky, is the only word I have for it. Try blurring everything on the pelt (except the lineart, and don’t distort the image). We’ll see how it looks then. -- Bramble -san  02:41, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I know I don't have any power, but this hasn't been worked on in almost a week. -- Rain whisker 09 21:38, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Blackclaw: The picture was reuploaded on September 20, and there was nothing said about what to edit on the picture until the 24th. It's only been a few days. Shimmersong: The shading on the belly and paws is still heavy for being white fur. Otherwise, aside from that and what Bramble said, Spottedleaf looks great! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:06, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Ok then. And I would prefer it if you called me Rainwhisker or Rain. -- Rain whisker 09 13:27, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, sorry, Rain. Shimmersong, there's a bright line of ginger on the front leg that looks irregular, it needs darkened, or blurred. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:45, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Loner Blanks - For Approval


(M) - I did more of a Melonlemon-style with these blanks and I'm pretty happy with the way they turned out. I also made an example (The shading might be in the wrong places though.)



Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

These are great! Give the muzzle a bit more of a stop and the ears look weird... but I really like them. - Darkhallows Lair 22:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

this looks really good Mosswhisker! but since they're loners ,wouldn't the fur be a bit scruffier?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Turquoise; background:Black; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Turquoise;"> ☆Darkkeh☆ uh...hi 22:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

For some reason the head looks a bit small to me... but they look great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 23:35, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Mosswhisker... you're amazing at making blanks! There are only a few things that I can say about these. Firstly, the neck looks a bit too thin, almost pinched, maybe you could make it a bit thicker. Also, I think there should be a bit more definition between the neck and the foreleg, it looks a little too smooth to me. These are incredible, though! <font color="lime" style="background:Black">♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 23:39, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Thanks guys! I'll change them tomorrow, after school. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 00:03, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Okay! I changed the muzzles so they have a stop, fixed the foreleg, and fixed the neck. (All I did was shorten it, and I think that helped.) I also didn't know what was wrong with the ears, but I did make them less pointy. I didn't change the fur because it's pretty scruffy as it is, and Loners wouldn't be a scruffy as Roughes. I didn't change the head size becuase when I inceased in by a mear 2 pixles, it looked waaay to big. I also got rid of the gray lines on the longhaireds. What else do I need to fix? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:35, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

The ears look a little small. Can you make them a bit bigger? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 20:19, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

The toes on their paws look a little weird... could you change them? -- Rain whisker 09 20:22, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Changed the toes and (even though it's hard to see) widened the ears. I also changed the shape of two of the paws a bit. Better? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:55, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think there great. I just think that the eyes are a little small. Other then that I hope they get approved before long. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:05, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know..the eyebrows look awkward?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think the whiskers are a little short. But they're great otherwise! -- Rain whisker 09 12:05, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'll fix these tomorrow. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:55, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I have a few things - Don't get me wrong - i think that these are good, and I know that you've put a lot of effort into them. I'm just trying to help. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 06:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * The legs are all different lengths. Tey get longer and longer towards the right of the image. The front paw which is bent in the action of walking should be shorter than the others, (because it is bent and therefore not at it's full length) but at the mkoment it is too long.
 * The body is slanted downwards (towards the front of the cat) This may look okay as you finish up the image without being adjusted, but you can have a go at making it more evn if you want to.
 * The ears looks to thin. Don't change the height right now, but have a look at the ears. Also, the back one should probably be on the other side. maybe just fiddle around a bit.
 * The muzzle - it just looks weird to me, no offense. Lots of it is out of proportion and place just within that small space. Open up an approved blank and these, and carefully chck the face, moving around the pixels until they look similar-ish.

(M) - I fixed zeh whiskers. I didn't change the eyes because I couldn't get them to look right, and I don't know what you mean by "eyebrows".
 * Thanks Dawn! I'll fix those things tomorrow. (I'm suffering from chronic lazyness right now.) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  21:52, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * Lol, sorry Moss. I thought the whiskers were eyes, and the eyes were eyebrows.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:46, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the whiskers should be a bit far apart. That's why they looked like eyes to me. (no offense)–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:28, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the paws and the ears. I'll fix the rest soon. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:12, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

It looks like their far rear leg goes through the pelt.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:48, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't know how to word it, so thank you, Swallowtip. ;) Otherwise, these look great!  Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:19, September 18, 2009 (UTC)


 * The hind legs are kind of overlapping, if you know what I mean...–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:11, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I fixed the legs and the whiskers. I can't get the muzzles to look right Dawn; could you maybe make me a diagram? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:05, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - What else do I need to fix besides the muzzles? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Their hind end looks slightly higher than their font; like they're coming down from a hill. Balance those out, and also make the hind paw that's lifted curl slightly outwards, if you know what that means. It'll look more natural. -- Bramble -san  23:03, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Could you move the eyes and whiskers down a few pixels? And maybe make the eyes a little bigger.-- Darkhallows My den 23:45, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

there is a line on their leg hind leg that is driving me nuts.Minnowclaw 01:45, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

The longhairs fur-tufts seem to go a little too far down the legs.-- Darkhallows My den 05:00, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I'm going to work on these this weekend. (School has eaten my free time and is using my relaxation as a toothick. >_< ) Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  19:34, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - See, I'm not dead! xP I fixed the tufts, moved the eyes and whiskers back a few pixles, and fixed the bodies so they're leveled out (Dawnfeather actually commented on this, and then I completely forgot to fix it, which shows just how much I pay attention. -_-;;; ) I tried to fix the eyes, but then they looked too big. Sorry! Also, that line is the haunch, and I didn't know how to curve the paw back; could you explain that a little more Bramble? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:16, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Birchstar (RC)for approval
My first leader and my first tabby. Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:42, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Here are a few things: It mostly just needs shading. The ear pink looks fine, and so does most of the tabby stripes. Otherwise, I think it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:16, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Needs shading. If it's there, I can't see it.
 * The nose pink is too bright, it's more of a hot pink rather than just a pink. Try to lighten it some. But from the pictures I was looking at on Google images, brown cats tend to have either brown or black noses, depending on whether they're multi-colored. Try changing it to just a lighter shade of brown from the color of the fur.

The tabby stipes need to be longer in most cases and more varied. Add shading and blend it well. Lighten the nose pink. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:34, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Redid the image. Made the tabby stripes longer, fixed nose and ear pink, and added shading. Is there anything else? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:40, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Still needs thicker and darker shading. Then blend it for natural transitions. As for the stripes - make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:36, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

What do you meen by regular?--<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 02:27, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

um... regular. i'll try and think of another way to describe it lol. bear with me. Make the different lengths, shapes and sizes. That would make them less regular. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:29, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Made the tabby stripes longer and darker. Added more shading. I really don't know what to think of it. Is it better? Worse? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 00:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the tabby stripes a bit more.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 01:39, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Also, more shading is needed. Thicken it slightly and then blend. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:04, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to her as soon as I can. My life has been busy since school started, so I'll try to get to her during the weekend. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 16:14, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Thickened the shading and the tabby stripes. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 19:33, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 17:28, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Your tabby stripes are too few and far between. They also are too thick and they all look alike. Put in some more and vary their length and look; I know warriors are a different pose but you can look at the approved tabbies for reference if there are no leader tabbies approved. Your shading also needs to be increased, slightly thickened, and the transition then needs to be blended thoroughly. -- Bramble -san  23:00, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Redid the tabby stripes. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:03, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I like them now.Minnowclaw 01:40, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Add a bit more shading and blend it in.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:46, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Added shading on her left side and I blended it in as much as I could. How does she look? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:49, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - She needs some shading under her chin. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:39, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 18:53, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Molepelt (MC) For Approval


My first image. Criticism welcome. Also, I'm not going to be on much these days, so please do not decline this.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 11:53, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think the ear pink is to big, and maybe to dark fur? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 12:07, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

yES LIGHTEN THE FUR TO MAKE TO MAKE THE EYE STAND OUT (Oops caps)--Stonestar 14:37, September 13, 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Lighten the herbs and perhaps make them more of a green colour - I'm not sure a medicine cats is likely to use withered plants... Lighten the fur a little and make sure to add a pupil and highlight into the eye. Look at some approved images for reference. The ineart is blurred and there is colour outside of it in places. When you've sorted that, then we'll talk shading. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 14:47, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better? I tried adding the pupil, but I don't know if it's right.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 06:21, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think this is a lot more good, I can see the whiskers now :) I'm not sure but I think the eye colour sould be more big? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:43, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Meaning?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:45, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've not done a medcat, so I'm not sure if the eye can be biger or not :/ but I mean I can't see the pupil but maybe if you did more colour in the eye you could make the pupil biger, (sorry I'm so bad at spelling) Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 10:06, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, wait a bit.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:13, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Anything else? Sandy, how much shading is needed?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 10:41, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

perhaps make the eye colour brighter--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 04:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Needs a highlight in the eye. Just put a white pixel on the left side of the pupil. -- Rain whisker  12:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. Any better?–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 13:47, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading a lot more, and also, look at Brambleclaw's deputy charart, for example, to see how the eye needs to be done. Otherwise, it looks good. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:20, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:35, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thin the shading out a bit and make sure it extends all the way down his back. Also, can you use the dodge tool (um... the one that looks like a circle on a stick) to add a highlight to the top of the herbs. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:03, September 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Reuploaded. What else? Impatience is the new life,(lol) so how much time does it take for an average image to be approved? I've uploaded this around 10 times. Do not take this statement very seriously.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:35, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

'Patience is a virtue' - I forget who said that. It takes as long as it takes. That's better but now to the same with the other shading on the chest and hindleg curve and then blend! blend! blend! Careful not to smudge the lineart. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:32, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Lolz. Impatience is the new life is the punchline of an internet company.. Reuploaded. Did the same to the chest and the hind leg. –– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 07:13, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

This is good but move the hind leg curve shading closer to the leg.Minnowclaw 01:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded.–– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 09:36, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Flick (R) - For Approval


Okay, my first charart, please don't decline this too quickly because I will not be on on weekdays, well, I might be on a little while, so I will only be able to edit the image sometimes. Not much to say about the image! -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 22:45, September 13, 2009 (UTC

This looks fine, but the lineart is blurred. Also, try blurring the ear pink some more. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:15, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll have to do that on Saturday, next Saturday, I can't do it on Weekdays. -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:55, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 22:49, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

This is amazing for your first image, Peacesong! (Do you want me to keep calling you that or should I call you Pandasong?) Just get rid of the grey pixel on his leg and it should be good. I can circle the grey pixel if you want... <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 00:17, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! You can call me whatever you want, Peace, Peacesong, Panda, Pandasong, anything works! :) And if you could circle the grey pixel, that'd be great! ^_^ -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:44, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Okay, I edited a few things, anything else that needs changing? -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:51, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

He still has the grey pixel. I've circled it for you. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined

OKay, thanks! -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:56, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Anything else? -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 00:59, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

There are a few bits of blurred line art on his back leg. Other than that, he should be approved soon. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 09:06, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

I will fix that after school today then. -- Pandasong Pandasong's Talk Page 17:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC) 11:50, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Could you circle the blurred line art for me? Thanks if you could! -- Pandasong <font color="white" style="background:lightblue">I ♥ Pandas 20:05, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'll circle it for you. I should get it done soon. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:24, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, here's what needs fixed. The red circles are for blurred lineart, the blue circle is where the lineart is almost gone and needs more black pixels, and the yellow circle is for where there is a gray pixel that needs to be black. I hope this helps some. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:38, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much! This will help a lot! -- Pandasong <font color="white" style="background:lightblue">I ♥ Pandas 21:37, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed some of that, what else needs fixing? -- Pandasong <font color="white" style="background:lightblue">I ♥ Pandas 21:53, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

he's great! but I see a small line on his tail--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 23:58, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Could you circle the line for me? So sorry that I'm asking everyone to circle the problems for me, but I want to fix the exact thing so I won't miss any problems. -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:lightblue">I ♥ Pandas 00:13, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

it's small...I know--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 02:12, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, its okay if its small, I want to fix any problems there are! :P -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Call Me Panda! 20:16, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Blur your highlights and shading a lot, taking care not to hit the lineart. Then I’d call him good to go. -- Bramble My Realm 21:11, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do that tonight then! -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Call Me Panda! 22:07, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Very good! I would go with Bramble, the highlights and shading need more blending. And the belly shading: there are some spots that haven't had shading go over it. I'm lucky to be your mentor :). <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight  22:33, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Mossflight! I will do that after I help my little sister with her homework! (Means I will do it tonight!) -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Call Me Panda! 22:36, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

I'm so sorry I didn't reupload it yet! I'm just really busy these days, really sorry, I just had Chinese School today, I will try hard to reupload it on Sunday! Really sorry! -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Proud Owner of a Imaginary Panda! 02:30, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Really sorry, I just couldn't get on! Please don't decline it even if I'm not on for a week, I'm just super busy! -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Proud Owner of a Imaginary Panda! 00:47, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

It's okay Pandasong. He's good and won't be declined as long as your trying to get on.Minnowclaw 01:36, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I echo what Minnowclaw said. Also, just a reminder, but when you reupload an image, save it over the old file, and not Flick7, Flick8, etc. Just pick one name: Flick.rogue, for example, and use that continuously. It saves space. -- Bramble -san  02:41, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

With Peacesong's permission, I made the necessary changes ( which were few). Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  20:04, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Rowanstar - for approval
*Makes note to lay of patched cats*<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 23:39, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Add some more shading, blur it and add some highlights too if you already haven't! Otherwise, it looks.........alright. -- Pan das ong <font color="white" style="background:silver">Proud Owner of a Imaginary Panda! 00:21, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

He Looks awesome. All I can see is maybe add some highlights? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 00:43, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

HIGHLIGHTS AREN'T MANDATORY! Pandasong, the shading is blended to the best of my ability.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 01:34, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Highlights are not necessary, that is true. A shaded cat without highlights is both simple and approvable. Swallow, you just need to blend the transition between your patches, darken the ear pink and make it less smudgy, and that's about it. He looks very nice. -- Bramble My Realm 02:35, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just take the patch on his chest and connect it with the other brown patch on his leg; it looks a little unatural right now. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 22:06, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded made the ear pink darker and redder, connected the patches and blended to the best of my ability without it looking smudged.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 16:01, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - It looks great! Just add shading to the bottem of his tail and this should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:55, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is that better?<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 22:03, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Much better. All he needs now is you need to blend that patch right near his mouth, because it's just hard line where the transition is, and make the ear pink a more dark pink color than purple. Also, on his right (our right) ear, move the ear pink inside the ear a bit more, and make it more triangular. -- Bramble My Realm 01:53, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Sorry that I haven't been on much. I think my latin teacher likes it when we fail.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 03:46, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Lol, I know what you mean. I think this is ready. Comments before approval in 24 hours? Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:38, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

^_^ The changes I mentioned above still need to be made. Then it should be ready. -- Bramble -san  19:12, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Oh, Sorry! I didn't relize she hadn't uploaded a new file when she posted that. @_@ Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  20:10, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Lol Moss. It's fine. Yes, though, Swallow, you forgot to upload the new image on the 26. :) -- Bramble -san  20:18, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Storm Clouds at Dusk(PH) - For Approval
He is a prey hunter with the tribe, so I thought he deserved some acknowledgement for it. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 05:32, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

There is a grey line at the bottom on the left that needs to be removed. Other than that, this looks great! One thing though: on the other prey hunters mud streaks have bene included - does he need them? Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 15:02, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I thought that Stormfur was a cave guard. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 16:15, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'm with spottedwing on this. I'll get outcast and dawn so I can check.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 16:32, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Spottedwing is right. In Outcast, during the scene that Jayfeather saw, Stormfur was teaching the other cave-guards fighting techniques. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 16:50, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I just read that too. Will this be declined becuase that would be a real pity.Minnowclaw 16:53, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

You're all right! Stupid me... I didn't even notice my mind was so full of other things. They're right Dawn; he was a cave-guard. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:50, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Wait. I found another prey hunter with a simalar discription. Storm Clouds at Dusk. I love this image and I think it's too good to be declined. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 19:25, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'm with Spottedwing. What do you say dawn? Do you want to make this Storm Clouds at Dusk?Minnowclaw 21:42, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

I probably will, but just quickly - he was teaching the cave guards, but that doesn't mean he was one of them. I thought that because he joined the Tribe to be with Brook and all of his time there before offically becomeing one of them had been spent with Brook, being trained in Prey-Hunter-ness, that he had become a prey hunter (if that makes any sense) I mean, we know he had training in hunting, but I never saw him getting training in Cave-guarding. If no-one agrees with me, I will change him though. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 00:38, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Actually - I have made some Cave-Guard blanks which I will put up at my next chance, so I'll just make this Storm Clouds at Dusk. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 04:12, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah - forgot about the line. Fixed the line, and by some random miracle, it finally let me make it transparent. So I made it transparent. --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 04:16, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Beautiful Sandy Dawn! Just add some mud streaks in the fur and it should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:04, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, this is Dawn's image (which I'd be more than happy to take credit for!) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:49, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Yea, that's why I shouldn't try posting until my brain's working properly again. xP Sorry Dawn! Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 19:58, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

It's okay. You made me laugh. (Rodd and Todd in background - yyaaayyyyy!)(lolololol). Added mud streaks, comments, critism? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 21:16, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Did you reupload yet? The image looks the same. -- Bramble My Realm 21:52, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah... it seems I forgot. Well I've done it now! :D --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 22:16, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Wait! In the allegiances of Eclipse, Stormfur is listed as a prey-hunter. -- Rain whisker 09 22:37, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

This could probably be either, their descriptions are identical. The mud streaks need to be blurred in, Dawn. -- Bramble ’-san'  21:11, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Rainwhisker: This should stay as Storm because I have a reference. Page 52 outcast, Brook says, "I was a prey hunter and Stormfur was a cave guard. Dawn: Beautiful! Not really much, but blur the mud streaks like bramble said.Minnowclaw 23:21, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

OK then never mind. Sorry! Must've been a typo in the allegiances. -- Rain whisker 09 23:46, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Note: I am unwell and cannot edit images at this point in time :( Please do not decline, I will hopefully be able to edit before I go away next week (I should be better by then). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 23:35, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Rainwhisker: I know, I see a lot of them becuase they editors don't get the names. Dawn: Like I said, get well soon!Minnowclaw 01:31, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Birchfall(A) for approval


He's back!!!!!!!!!!!any thing to improve?--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 01:00, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Add shading under the chin. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 02:39, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

His stripes are strangely thin and are all the same. Try changing some to make them less regular- add some 'y' shaped ones or some more curved ones and thicken them all. I use a size 9 paintbrush for tabby stripes and they seem to work quite well. Perhaps a size 5 for an apprentice; experiment a little. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 12:03, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

reuploaded--<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Chocolate; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Chocolate;"> ☆Brackenstorm☆ X3 22:40, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink, tabby stripes, and shading just a tad.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:48, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Birdy - For Approval
Yep, I finally did her. Constructive criticism is welcome, and remember, if I don't respond right away, even for a week, DON'T remove. <font color="Cyan" style="background:Black">G <font color="Green" style="background:Black">B <font color="#9933FF" style="background:Black">57 17:27, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - There are dark gray dots inside of the middle patch, and I can't see any shading. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 17:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink looks... circular. -- Rain whisker 09 23:41, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

GB, I don’t know how much allowance I can give you… the image can’t just remain here while others are declined when they aren’t worked on in a week. It isn’t fair to others. I’ll give you two weeks at the most; after that I don’t think it can stay up any more if you haven’t worked on it. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I agree: two weeks is fair because he can only get on every other week. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 18:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Redtail(kit)-for approval


I had a lot of fun making this image and it was a bit difficult to make him look just like my deputy image, but I think he is close enough. Here's Redtail as a Redkit when seen in Bluestar's Prophecy. One of my first kits since I hardly have any experience with them, but I want to get around to trying.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 18:53, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty good, Shim. Just blend the shading on top of his head (transition line), and maybe take out the white on his muzzle... it sort of looks like he has a beard. Blur the patches as well. -- Bramble My Realm 21:49, September 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll work on him as soon as I get home. Bramble, I really don't want to take the white off his muzzle though because on his deputy image, I gave him a white muzzle. It would just seem odd to me for it to seem like it just appeared as he became older. Unlike when cats get older their fur does start turning gray...-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 17:06, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Try making the white more like Bluestar's leader image to make it look less like a beard. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 20:06, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

To-Be Blanks - For Approval


Inspired by a need to make Stormfur. So I couldn't help myself and made an example (of Stormfur). Comments/ critism? --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 21:28, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

These are great! The only things I see are that the ears need to be pointed, the eyes need to be a bit bigger, and muzzle lineart needs to be thickened.  HA WK FI RE98  21:31, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Changed the muzzle line art to make it thicker and made ears pointer. With both I made them the maximum they could be without... looking disturbing. The eye can't get any bigger whatsoever without looking disturbing. Thanks! --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 21:41, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

I thought M&S was making the cave-guard blanks...? These look great! But I think that the line where the muzzle connects to the neck looks a little awkward. I would change the line a bit. -- Rain whisker 09 22:31, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

(M)- Oh, I forgot to tell you Blackclaw that I decided not to use them becuase I became way to busy. O_o Sorry! I like these blanks alot, but something about them makes them almost look chibi-ish...I can't pinpoint it right now, but I'll let you know if I figure it out. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 23:36, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

Haha, chibi? But yes, they do look rather young. I would hate to try and distort these images to try and make them look older, because they are beautiful now. Dawn, what do you think of making these our to-be blanks? They look like young cats beginning to enter adolescence. It's your choice, though. -- Bramble My Realm 00:54, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I have to-be blanks reserved Bramble. I don't think they look to young. If too many people disagree maybe they can be soft-paws.Minnowclaw 01:19, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I think they'd be great for soft-paw blanks. But Bramble's right, they're too small to be cave-guard blanks. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:39, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

We'll see what Dawn says, or if she can fix them to look older like the amazing artist she is. Minnowclaw, I'd like to see your blanks, if you are done with them. -- Bramble My Realm 01:59, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Adorable! The transition from hind-leg to paw is a tad awkward, though.-- Darkhallows My den 08:23, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Minnowclaw, are you making both tribe to-be blanks? Because if not, then you could do the prey-hunter to-be blanks and Dawnfeather could do  the cave-guard to-be blanks. If you're OK with that, of course. -- Rain whisker 09 12:34, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Blackclaw: we're only having one set of to-be blanks. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 17:47, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Oh... but couldn't you make two sets? It would be more work, but we're already making two sets of tribe cats, why not make two sets of to-bes too? Just an idea. Unless Danwfeather would rather make these soft-paws. -- Rain whisker 09 22:50, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

You know what, these are too good to just toss out and mine will never be like this. Dawn, if you want, they can be to-bes and maybe I can scratch something up to be soft paw's.Minnowclaw 23:54, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

If you are sure, I think I'll do that. I don't think that there is any point making two different types of to-be blanks as we have only meet about three or four. Could those who had things they wanted changed please repeat themselves? This article is such a mess that I can't find anything! (sorry) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 01:18, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Looks like this, I think: Blackclaw09: the line where the muzzle connects to the neck looks a little awkward. I would change the line a bit. Darkhallows: Adorable! The transition from hind-leg to paw is a tad awkward, though And everything else was about the chibi-ness, but that's settled now since they're becoming to-be blanks. -- Bramble -san  01:33, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Note: I am unwell and cannot edit images at this point in time :( Please do not decline, I will hopefully be able to edit before I go away next week (I should be better by then). --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 23:35, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that Dawn! I hope you get better soon and I'll make sure no one will decline it along with everyone else, although then agian, I don't have power. L.O.L!Minnowclaw 01:28, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I hope you get better soon, Dawn. :( We miss you here. As I do have the power to approve/decline, I’ll keep these up as long as I can. :) Don’t worry about them, just try and get better. We want our sun back! (that was a really, really bad pun…) -- Bramble -san  02:41, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Pixlr is playing up. No matter what tool i am using, it does nothing and in the history panel it shows 'move selection', even if there is no selection. It'll be here soon though, I promise! (*sob* why does this happen to me? This week has been... ick) (Hi all!) --<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;Orange; background:LightBlue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Orange;"> Dawnfeather talk! 12:48, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

I wanted to test these blanks: I had no trouble coloring this one in. -- Rain whisker 09 13:39, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Mothwing for approval


I know it might be a little bad so please help me make her better.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;orange; background:gray; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">ღ Şũήמy ღ 22:06, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Not bad at all. She's a dappled golden tabby, right? That's what I see here, and she's very good. She just needs some more shading. On her back, legs, chest, and head, just run the burn tool (about 50%, on midtones, if you know what that means) along those areas and she'll be good. -- Bramble ’-san'  22:09, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Wow this is ver ygood Hiddensun. But, like Brambel said, it needs more shading. Also the herbs looks really darkly shaded, could you lighten 'em up a bit? <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 22:17, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Wait Bramble everyone here uses 50% on midtones? Wow, Iv'e bbeen doing it on highlights since I got here o_O. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 22:18, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about everyone, but I find it keeps the shading texture able to make the original color darker without adding in gray. You can use whatever one you want. :) -- Bramble -san  22:49, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

I use midtones as i find highlights hard to blend on pixlr ^_^ Not everyone does though I'm sure. It's not a rule, just good advice for someone who hasn't done shading before. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 16:45, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ok thank you!!i hope itstake a while to fix her because i am way busy with school.<font color="#ff1493" face="Matura MT Script Capitals">ღҢĺđďệИŜυήღ <font color="#ee82ee" face="Lucida Calligraphy">The Eclipse... 20:34, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

I absolutely love this. It's probably the most beautiful charart I've ever seen! All I see is that you need to add more shading on her body, and that the shading on the herbs is too dark. Also, there seems to be some white pixels at the top of the herbs? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 01:03, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

She's really pretty, but I don't think cats are so bright. Perhaps run her over with the burn tool a few times?-- Darkhallows My den 05:37, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Is there a pupil? If it's there I can't see it. Could just be my computer. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 21:12, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) I can see a pupil, but what I can't see is any shading. I also agree that the color should be darker. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:49, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Willowshine (MC) - For Approval


Well, I'm still not that great on tabbies, but I really wanted to try a medicine cat, and I couldn't seem to have much luck at finding one who wasn't a tabby. So, how does she look? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:50, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

SHe's really dark, I amagined her lighter. Kinda like Feathertails color. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 21:57, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. She should be light enough now. What about the tabby stripes? Do they look okay? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:34, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripes look fine, but wasn't she like a silver color? I'll check.Minnowclaw 01:23, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Her page says dark gray and the book says gray. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 20:01, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Ya, in that case, darken the shading a bit.Minnowclaw 20:31, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Darkened the shading. How does it look now? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 00:37, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Thicken the shading on the body and blend it. Also, add some more shading to the bottom of the herbs.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Okay, darkened the shading. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 21:28, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Foxwhisker- For Approval
My first ginger cat. I hope I made the color right! Comments?  HA WK FI RE98  01:16, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

It's very good, but make the color a bit redder. Also thin the shading.Minnowclaw 01:17, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Better?  HA WK FI RE98  13:14, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Darken your shading; I can barely see it. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 21:07, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

It seems like you just ran over him in random spots with the dodge tool...blur them in more or atleast in the correct spots.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 17:04, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Oakpaw (A) - For Approval
Right I'm not sure what to think of this :/ Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:20, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Let's start with the first thing: shading. The shading on his isn't enough. I have a guide on my page, so you can check that out.-- Darkhallows My den 05:40, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

is it on your user page? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 05:43, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yup! I just put it up there. You don't need to shade in that style, though. It's just what I find easiest.-- Darkhallows My den 05:54, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I think the sgading is to dark?? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 06:00, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Right is this good?? Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 06:18, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

I know whats not right I'm not doing the shadeing right I'm going it Right soon Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 16:38, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Blend all the darker patches more.Minnowclaw 01:14, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Silly, me! This is oakpaw of Shadowclan right? The darker parts must be shading. My bad. He's very good otherwise, but I'll have something for you when the shading is redone.Minnowclaw 01:19, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

yep he is a Shadowclan cat "_" and they are shading. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:51, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

here he is. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 15:38, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Wait on his page it said he is form the other clan?? but it don't say he as dark patchs? :/ Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 09:52, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by dark patches, but for the image, add some shading on his back and head and blur the ear pink a bit more.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:54, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

huh? Put shading on his back? the sun is form the back :/ if a should then a will. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 14:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then, but if the sun's coming from the back, you should probably add some highlights there with the dodge tool. -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 18:39, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Pinestar - for approval


i haven't uploaded in a long time. Well here it is: <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 00:40, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Wow! This is great! But you might want to blur the ear pink a bit more. -- Rain whisker 09 00:54, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the shading on the belly more and do what Blackclaw said.Minnowclaw 01:13, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Blender belly shading, ear pink, and I fogot to add neck shading the first time, so I added it here. <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 01:38, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe thin the neck shading a bit - it looks too thick.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:55, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Goldenflower (E) - For Approval
I always felt sorry for Goldenflower. First her brother (Lionheart) dies, then her son (Swiftpaw) dies, then her other brother (Snowkit) dies, then her mother (Speckletail) dies...and on top of all that, her mate was Tigerstar! Poor, poor cat. Anyway, does the image look good? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 20:05, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

All I see is that the shading needs to be thickened and blended. Otherwise, she looks great!-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 23:17, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Better? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 02:50, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Very pretty. :) Just darken her ear pink a bit. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  18:35, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Scratch (R) ~ For Approval


OMG, HE SUCKS. >_> My first tabby (hopefully). Did I blur too much or something? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:24, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

Hold on... I blured some lineart... -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:25, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

There. Comments, Suggestions, etc.? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 23:32, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I'm new to tabbys but I think more stripes on his/her back? and on our left ear the pink should be more in the mid of the ear. Brambleclaw14 <font color="Red">Talk 08:02, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

On his page, it says that he is a dark ginger tabby - maybe darken his pelt color a little?-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 14:59, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Is this just my computer or is he yellow?Minnowclaw 18:43, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

(takes a deep, calm breath) He’s not a tabby. His article descript was wrong. It’s not your fault, it t’s the people who put the false descriptions up on the article, but in the way of preparedness, find a book reference on the description before you make it; don’t assume the article’s always correct. -- Bramble -san  20:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

I thought it also said he was a tabby in Firestar's Quest? Oh well. So, I would make him just dark ginger? -- MU MB LE 785 MAN-EATING KITTEHS! 00:32, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Correct. You know, if you can find a book ref that says he's tabby, I'd be happy to let you keep him that way. In the allegiances, though, it says he's a dark ginger tom. -- Bramble -san  04:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Beechfur - for approval


Well, another minor character... comments? <span style="color: Black; font-family:Comic Sans MS; background:Blue; border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Black;">Mossflight 16:01, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Darken the shading and make the ear pink more pink.Minnowclaw 18:39, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Sandwich, pick a file name, like Beechfur.warrior, and reupload on that name every time. Don’t make a new file every time you update, like beechfur1, Beechfur2, Beechfur3… etc. It saves a lot of space. And makes my job a lot easier. :) -- Bramble -san  20:50, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Fawnstep - For approval


I totally love that she is Skyclan's medicin cat..so i decided to make her.Please tell me how to make her better.<font color="#ff1493" face="Matura MT Script Capitals">ღҢĺđďệИŜυήღ <font color="#ee82ee" face="Lucida Calligraphy">The Eclipse... 20:05, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, she's really good! All I can see is that there needs to be thicker and darker shading, and it needs to be blended.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 20:44, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

This is a touch too like Runningwind’s image, Hiddensun. I’m hoping you didn’t directly copy it. We don’t like our image to look exactly alike, and about the only difference between the two is Fawnstep has herbs and a lighter pelt. Rework her tabby stripes a bit and make it look like an indivdual image. -- Bramble -san  21:04, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

seedpelt - for approval
Not much to say, what do you think?Minnowclaw 02:59, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

The fleck under the ear pink looks a little unatural. Other then that I think it's gorgus. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:26, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Could you make the flecks different sizes and shapes? Right now they all seem to be the same size and completely circular. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:46, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Cinderpelt - for approval
As you can see this is the old one tweeked. I said I would do her, so here she is. I CLAIM NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE COLORING!Minnowclaw 04:11, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job, but the leg looks kinda strange. I'll see if I can make you a diagram of how I think you should do it. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 04:21, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Here you go... <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 04:29, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

But it said in the book it was twisted back or flipped over.<span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">*Swallowtip * EMBRACE THE TIP! 04:32, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

But is it twisted all the way? Should be twisted halfway, so you should only see the front of the paw in the charcat, I think? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color;silver; background:darkblue; border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:silver;">Eveningswift :) 00:24, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I agree with Evening - you'd probably just see the front of the paw. If it was twisted all the way back, it would have to have been completely crushed. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:44, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Cedarstar (Le)- For Approval
-- Darkhallows My den 10:20, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Oh my word, Shady! It's so beautiful I nearly cried. Only things, the ear pink looks white, and not pink. And the tail shading is too dark. Fix those and he will be ready!  HA WK FI RE98  12:49, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - *Dies from an overdoseage of pure AWESOMENESS* Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire  21:04, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing (Q) - For Approval
I made her about 1-2 months ago and just now had a chance to put her up. That's why she's probably not as good as some of my other images; I think it's the shading or something. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 21:48, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I changed the shading. Is it better now? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 22:01, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Georgus. The only thing I can see is there is some blured lineart near the tail. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:13, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

I don't see it...could you circle it? <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 22:16, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing looks very pretty, Sparrowsong, but in the shading on her hind leg, there's a dark spot that needs to be blended like the rest of the shading. The blurred lineart is close to the dark spot. Otherwise, great job! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Stormfur (A) - For Approval
Yay! My first charart! How does it look?--Hawktalon 21:50, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Very pretty. The shading is too dark, lumpy, and needs to be blended into the pelt more.  HA WK FI RE98  21:51, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Great! Just blend the shading some more. <span style="font-family:Tempus Sans ITC; color:IceBlue; background:pink; border:1px solid; ; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:aqua;"> Sparrowsong Madly Blooming Princess |undefined 21:52, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Mega oops! Sorry! We saved the page at the same time! The shading thing is for Whitewing's Queen version! Stormpaw looks brilliant. Oops! *dies of embarrassment* Look, just pretend this never happened lol.  HA WK FI RE98  21:54, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, Hawkfire! Hawktalon, this looks pretty good for your first charart! All I can say is that the shading needs blended into the pelt some more. In other words, what Sparrowsong said. :) Stormpaw looks great! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:13, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

He's so cute. I just think that the shading needs to be blended into the pelt a little more. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:16, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Aw, crud! I already lightened the shading >_< But don't blame yourself Hawkfire. It was a simple mistake. So, should I darken the shading? And I blurred the shading as much as I could, but I use Pixlr, which has notoriously weak blending power. Comments?--Hawktalon 22:25, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

On the haunch there is a light spot (which I'm pretty sure is the highlight) that should be blended in. This is pretty good for your first charart! -- Rain whisker 09 00:35, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

He actually looks better with the lightened shading! :) I did good!  HA WK FI RE98  13:34, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blended the highlight. And lol, you're right Hawkfire, it does look better! Comments?--Hawktalon 14:07, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * This is really good for your first image Hawktalon. Just darken the pink of his ear just a tad, running over it once with the burn tool should do it.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 17:03, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

ReuploadedThanks, Shimmer, and everyone else, for your constructive and nice comments! They mean a lot to me:) Darkened the ear pink. Constructments?--Hawktalon 17:40, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - You're using the same shading style as me and Quietstep use, right? In that case, thiken the shading under the chin; that will make it look natural. Also, try taking out that highlight on his haunch; it's not nessary and it makes it look as if his haunch is made out of plastic. Do that and he should be good. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:33, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Brokenstar - For Approval


The first major villain we saw asides Tigerstar. I went with a new tabby marking style. Constructments? -- Bramble -san  22:17, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Very good. But his ears need to be torn, his muzzle needs to have scars on it, and his tail needs to be broken!  HA WK FI RE98  22:20, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

I looked through Into the Wild, which is the only time he's known as a leader, and I saw nothing about scars nor torn ears. Provide a page number and I will change it. On the tail, how do you suggest I make it bent? A diagram would be appreciated. -- Bramble -san  22:35, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

It mentions his broken tail somewhere in Secrets of the Clans...I think it mentions it in BP, but I can't remember at the moment. But in Secrets of the Clans, when Yellowfang named him after her broken heart, the other queen remarked that his name was Brokenkit because of his broken tail. (In other words, for page number, go to Yellowfang's story in SotC. It'll be somewhere in there.) Hawkfire, his ears being torn and the scars on his muzzle are when he was prisoner in the ThunderClan camp. (I think.)

For bending the tail...I'm not sure. Maybe putting a curve, or a couple of jagged lines in the lineart, and moving the rest. Also, there's a couple of white pixels in the lineart on the tail that need colored in black. (or brown with the tail) I love the tabby stripes! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)



(M) - Here's a diagram on...how to break his tail. O.O I just used the leader lineart because it was easier than using the colored version. And yes, you can use this exact lineart for your picture if you want. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 00:58, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, Bramble, correct me if I'm wrong, but it says "bent in the middle like a broken branch." I've always imagined it in a straight line, and not curved. No offense Moss, but that tail needs to be a more bent. (P.S.:I love the tabby marking style. Can it be used for all striped tabbies?)With due respect, –– Σ  ãliãs   G.  r.  paw RR.jpg 05:46, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Grayraven, it is bent in the middle. It can't be a sharp right angle; it would look highly unnatural. I changed his tail (thank you, Moss). How does it look?

As for the tabby marks, it has been said before that they look cartoonish and unofficial. I find I disagree with Kitsufox on this point; they look more professional to me than the y marks (though those are perfectly fine as well). So yes; these can be used, but it is also acceptable to use the y markings. -- Bramble -san  17:45, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - It looks great! I could make the tail bend sharper, but like Bramble said, it would look unatural, plus his long fur would make it look pretty smooth either way. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:26, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Barkface (MC) - For Approval
Well, not much to say for this one...did I make the tail short enough? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 22:30, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is very good, Icethroat. His tail is short enough, yes. just blend the shading on his midriff and I'd call him good. -- Bramble -san  22:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I think I fixed it...I've blended it to the best of my ability. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:09, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I like his tail! There's a small area of shading next to the herbs that needs blended though, and that patch of light fur where there's no shading on it that should be taken out, I think; it's not really neassary and it would make the image look better over all. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 01:00, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. I got rid of the patch of light, and I agree that it looks better. And that shading next to the herbs is blended to the best of my ability without blending the lineart. Icethroat21 Enter at risk 01:55, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * This looks good Icethroat the only thing I have to say is the herbs seem like an unnatural green to me. I say maybe make the side of the herb that is like "laying" on his fur darker so it has shading. That way the other part looks like he's not looming over it.-- Shim-Shim New Gladiator! 17:01, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Look better now? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 19:29, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

This is ready. Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  20:14, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Morningcloud - for approval
I don't really like her, but I have a new goal: I'm going to do all of the Code of the Clans cats that don't have a Charart. And Morningcloud didn't. So here she is. Comments/criticism?-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 22:36, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Morningcloud looks great, Echomist! All I can say is that there are a couple of places on the lineart of the tail, and a couple on the hind paw, that are the color of the fur, and need to be colored back in black. I can circle them if you want. Should I? Icethroat21 Enter at risk 23:27, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Oh my days! We do not need a diagram for every improvement suggested. Echo, just take a look at the whole lineart and check it is completely black. I don't see anything else - nice work =) Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 09:36, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, Sandy. Echomist, the lineart shouldn't be too hard to find... Icethroat21 Enter at risk 13:23, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

lol, that's okay Icethroat =) I wasn't just sending that message to you personally. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:58, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Fixed the lineart. Comments?-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 15:04, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Very nice, Echo. You're really good at this. In some time I think you'll be able to become a mentor for some of our new members. :) Comments before approval? -- Bramble -san  17:53, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thanks, Bramble! ^_^ -- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 18:06, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Snowfur (A) - for approval
I miss Snowfur so I did her as an apprentice. Comments? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 22:51, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Wow, she's really good! Just thicken the shading a little bit.-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 22:53, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Very cute! Just lighten the shading a tad.  HA WK FI RE98  23:50, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

Lightened the shading a little. --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 01:27, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Gorgeous! I would approve her right now, but I don't have the power to.  HA WK FI RE98  13:34, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

The shading looks kind of blotchy to me... try and smooth it out a bit and then she'll be ready. Sandy ~Dragonkit's Forest 13:59, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

I echo what Sandy said. But very nice!Minnowclaw 14:33, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Hows this? --<font color="Blue" style="background:cyan">Spottedwing 18:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Barley (R) - for approval


This is Barley as a cat in BloodClan, and my first character art. I don't care if it looks great, this is sort of a practice anyways. Anything to improve?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  03:47, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

It needs shading (the burn tool should be good for that), the black patch on his belly needs to be bigger, as there needs to be a balance between the black and white, and his eye needs a white pixel. Also, his ear pink needs to be blurred. Right now, it looks circular, and it needs to look triangular-ish, like the shape of the ear. Otherwise this it good for your first charart! Icethroat21 Enter at risk 13:28, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Barley is long furred.Minnowclaw 14:30, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Tigerkit - for approval
I wanted to stick to making Code of the Clans cats, but... I love Tigerpaw so much that I had to do him as a kit! Comments/criticism?-- Echomist <font color="Goldenrod">Hear the Echo... 18:04, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

One word. CUTE!!!!!!!! Anyway, the only thing I see is to darken the ear pink just a tad.  HA WK FI RE98  18:08, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Cute! *Huggles* Just do what Hawk said. Mosswhisker &amp; Steatlhfire 18:41, September 27, 2009 (UTC)