Warriors Wiki talk:Charart/Archive 78

Pelt Lineart Variations
Hey, so this has been something that's been bothering me for a while. If a cat is described with a ragged pelt or a short/longer tail their lineart of their images gets tweaked, but if they're continuously described as fluffy or something, they're just made a long hair (i.e. Cloudtail). I personally think that if a certain attribute is used to describe them continuously; like Cloudtail always being called fluffy/longhaired, that their lineart/blanks should be made fluffy/sleek/ragged/etc. Still a bit of a vague idea, but thoughts? 04:04, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm understanding you correctly. We are already doing that. Normal longhaired cats get a longhaired lineart, and ragged, matted, or patchy fur gets a lineart change. If I'm totally missing your point, forgive me. 18:59, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

I don't quite get what you mean either. Could you elaborate on this a little more?

I mean like, Feathertail is mentioned several times with a really fluffy, plumy tail and her chararts reflect that, but there are other longhairs who've been mentioned with plumy tails and their lineart isn't tweaked. I think I asked this once for Graystripe or something and was told that it was because they weren't named for it or something and I don't think that makes a whole lot of sense if we've already gone and tweaked Feathertail and Redtail. And for Cloudtail; true he's a long hair, but he's also mentioned several times as being extremely fluffy. I think the linearts are kind of a base to start with and alterations of description can be added on. 20:28, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Ohhh ok, well, how would one go about making it look fluffy, in such a small blank? I know to make the edges smooth, not sharp, but on a small blank that would be hard. Maybe for those cats, we could do a fur texture? And no, it shouldn't be on the basis that the cat was named for that. If they are mentioned as such as we can get a concensus, then no cat with such a description should not have their charart tweaked. 21:30, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Oooooh, so that's what you mean. I kinda agree with that. This would also apply to Hollyleaf, correct? She's described with a bushy tail on more than one occasion... I think there's a couple more, Cloudtail being one of them.

Well to an extent, we already do that. We do it when they're named for it, and when they're described as having, say, especially fluffy fur and such. Since things like a plumy tail or something could simply mean longhaired, we only change those type of things if it says they have it, specifically moreso than average cats. I do agree though, that Cloudtail should be made fluffy. He's called especially fluffy many times. However we shouldn't go making especially fluffy lineart for cats who were simply mentioned like that on a couple occasions, such as, say, Birhgtheart. And no cloudy, I believe Hollyleaf's only been mentioned with a fluffy tail once or twice. Hence why she was shorthair for so long. There are very few cats who'd still need to be tweaked, Cloudtail, I believe Featherwhisker... not sure on him, and maybe a couple others. We really don't need to go overboard on it though, as the longhaired lineart is there for a reason. That's why we only change them when they're described as especially fluffy or something. 04:56, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I already get that we do that for cats that are descibed as fluffy once or twice, what I was trying to get at were cats like Cloudtail who've been described as fluffy or alike on several occasions, so I figured that their chararts should reflect that 05:17, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

Have we come to a conclusion on this? 00:36, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

No one's commented. If you want to bring this up again, you're more than welcome to. Right now, it's just sitting here.

Kit Image for Leafstar and Others
In Beyond the Code on page 7 8, it says, "It wasn't many seasons ago that I was their age..." when Leafstar was talking about her kits, and somewhwere in SkyClan's Destiny, it reads "You're not a kit anymore (again, Leafstar thinks this)." Should she get a kit image for that?

Also, something that has been going around in my mind is, if we know who a cat's mother is, and we give her a queen charart, should we give kit images to them? 18:22, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with the first part, but I'm not entirely sure on the second one. If they were called a kit, then yes, this is a high possiblity of earning a charart, but not if only their mothers were mentioned, I don't think. This is a good question, Bluestar :3. I'm happy people are sprouting ideas like this :3 ♪ ♫ Feat her ♪♫ øṉε ώøɾlḋ, ṃαṉÿ αṉṡώεɾṡ  18:28, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

For what cats are getting kit images for, I think that should qualify for a kit image. Honestly, I'm not meaning offense with this, but if a cat is mentioned as the mother of another cat, she gets an image, but that mother's offspring does not get an image. That makes no sense to me. 21:00, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I think they should. Having somebody for a mother implies that they gave birth and that the cat was a kitten when they were born. 23:00, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

If we make kits images by those standards, almost every cat would get a kit image. Being a sibling also means they they were kits at some point, cause they're from the same parents. Heck, just a cat existing at all implies being a kit, hence why the standards for kit images are a bit more restrictive. I think they're fine as is. We'd be going way overboard if we made kit images for nearly every cat. However, yes I agree Leafstar should get one. 23:14, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Heck, I'm still of the opinion that the current standards for who does and does not get kit images is way too lose. 23:42, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

It's just, I really don't understand why a cat being mentioned as a cat's mother is grounds for an image, but not the mother's child. I do not mean offense by my next statement, but I think it's a bit hypocritical to give the mother an image but not her child, it's almost exactly the same thing, just another rank. Personally, I don't agree with the mothers getting an image, even though that would mean a few of my images would get deleted. 03:36, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Have we come to a conclusion on this? 00:36, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion is just sitting here. Feel free to bring it up later if need be.