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Petalfall -- Silver nomination
She looks good and ready for silver. •Maple fern• Happy Canada Day! 09:52, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. ♥Ice shine★  15:45, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

The text is a bit unclear. "When one of the warriors, Cloudstorm states that they cannot fight them in SkyClan territory" - fight who? It should be stated what battle it is (I don't have the book, unfortunately). Otherwise, the article is good.  Helix talk 14:59, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

I got the info for the article from Cloudstar's page. I don't know who them is. . . ❦✌Mo    us  et  al  on❦✌   !! It's tooHOT!   17:41, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

I snuck a peek at the book when I went to the mal yesterday, and there was battle against ThunderClan, though I don't know if they could be talking about Twolegs as well. ❦✌Mo   us  et  al  on❦✌   !! It's tooHOT!   21:32, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I think she's ready. Echo star  Getting a tan 13:49, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I think maybe her history should be expanded a bit, was she mentioned at all after the battle? Night Fall 23:37, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I added a bit more to the end of her history-- n i g h t  s h i n e  00:18, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Um, guys... it doesn't even say if SkyClan won or lost the battle on the page. I would have added the details myself but I don't have BotC with me at the moment. If someone just fills in a couple sentences about that, then she's good for silver. insane brick'd 13:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Tanglepaw, Duckpaw, Rushpaw, and Pikepaw- Silver Nomination
With a quick expansion of their articles, these apprentices are ready for silver!  Echo s t a r  ♥    ♥  12:51, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone agree?? Echo star  Getting a tan 18:11, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't have the books, but I checked all four articles and updated as necessary; I support them for silver.  Helix talk 19:16, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * They look fine. ♥Ice  shine★  21:54, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, they look ready to me too :) Night  Fall 22:39, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked permission from Insane to help clean some of these longstanding nominations up and she agreed. So are there any other comments before one of the senior warriors puts the vote up? -- Sandy star 14:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. ♥Ice  storm★  14:48, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope. None! Echo  star  Getting a tan 11:25, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

The vote is up. insane brick'd 13:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lizardstripe and Mudclaw - Silver Nominations
Their articles looks perfect to me.--  Night s h i n e    ~  17:06, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Lizardstripe seems good, but Mudclaw is only mentioned, but his family is, so I think it would be okay. Quailflight 05:22, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean Quailflight? I agree that the articles look fine. ♥Ice shine★  21:53, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

They look ready for silver to me. Echo star  Getting a tan 13:51, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked permission from Insane to help clean some of these longstanding nominations up and she agreed. So are there any other comments before one of the senior warriors puts the vote up? -- Sandy star 14:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Lizardstripe looks fine to me, but I'll have to disagree with adding Mudclaw. He just doesn't look ready to me. Besides, both of them aren't even at bronze rank. Does it matter if they're only started? Like, can a page go right from started to silver? Oblivion Got it memorized?  00:15, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, they can. There are no bronze nominations; users make them bronze whenever they feel like the article deserves that status. And I think you're thinking of Mudclaw of WindClan. Mudclaw of ShadowClan can't be expanded any more, since he never even made an appearance. Both are totally ready. Echo star  Getting a tan 11:27, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

The Vote is up. insane brick'd 13:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Poppycloud and Mottlepaw - Silver Nominations
Their articles look good--  Night s h i n e    ~  01:02, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, I see nothing wrong. Quailflight 05:21, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

They look great to me. ♥Ice shine★  16:30, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Poppycloud's article could be expanded a bit. I'll look into it. Echo star  Getting a tan 13:53, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Both are ready for silver. Echo star  Getting a tan 23:52, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked permission from Insane to help clean some of these longstanding nominations up and she agreed. So are there any other comments before one of the senior warriors puts the vote up? -- Sandy star 14:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, don't think so. Echo  star  Getting a tan 11:28, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

The vote has been put up. insane brick'd 13:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Half Moon-Silver Nomination
I was up half the night trying to get her ready for silver xD I expanded the history a lot, but you guys might want to reword a few sentences, I don't know. I added a quote, and the family and description are cited. Night Fall 19:39, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Her article is great! It looks ready to me--  Night s h i n e    ~  00:41, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Great job, Nightfall! It looks awesome! Echo star  Getting a tan 14:34, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. ♥Ice shine★  16:28, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked permission from Insane to help clean some of these longstanding nominations up and she agreed. So are there any other comments before one of the senior warriors puts the vote up? -- Sandy star 14:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, don't think so. Echo  star  Getting a tan 11:28, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Cherrykit and Molekit (OTS)- Silver Nomination
Both articles seem ready to me. Echo star  Getting a tan 14:32, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

For Cherrykit, I think her fading echoes section could be expanded a bit more. ♥Ice shine★  16:29, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone working on these?

Cloudtail- Gold Nomination
Let's try this again. :) I think he is ready and he is being featured currently, so I think he deserves Gold. Whitestorm17 16:48, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Echo star  Getting a tan 13:54, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Supporting.  Helix talk 07:41, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Can we get another quote? Lightning talk 09:28, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I added one :) And I also moved the section, because I believe it's supposed to be under the family tree Night  Fall 05:37, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Cloudtail looks good. Tawny SMEASH 16:49, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Snake (Character)-Silver Nomination
I edited it a bit, and when he's in a book, he's mentioned so I think he's ready. Sky wish  I'm Bob the Weasel and I'm SQUEAKY CLEAN! 02:20, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

The Secrets of the Clans and A Clan in Need sections could be expanded-- n i g h t  s h i n e  04:40, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightshine. I'll look into Secrets of the Clans, but I don't have A Clan in Need. Echo star  Getting a tan 19:15, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

The Secrets of the Clans section has been expanded. Could someone work on A Clan in Need? Echo star  Getting a tan 19:37, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Done Willow pool "Let's look for donuts in the wilderness!"  19:10, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded the "A Clan in Need" section-- n i g h t  s h i n e  01:50, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Whoa Night, you've done an awesome job with that lol XD Willow pool "Let's look for donuts in the wilderness!"  03:05, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, Nightshine! He's definitely ready now. Echo star  Getting a tan 11:30, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ashfoot - Silver Nomination
I don't think anything else is needed. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 13:05, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Her Battles of the Clans section could be expanded, but that's all I see. I'll look into it. Echo star  Getting a tan 19:18, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Done. But Ashfoot's blue eyes need to be referenced. It might be in Fire and Ice, but I don't have the book. I'll look at the allegiances page and see if it's there, though. Echo star  Getting a tan 19:56, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'll check Fire and Ice. Roa drun ner  "Meep, Meep!"  18:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

I've checked all the books she's appeared in, and it never references her eye color. So if it's okay, I'm going to go ahead and take it off her article. -- Honeyfur Bob's Your Uncle! 00:07, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Done. The eye color has been removed from the article. Just in case, I'll check the allegiances of the books she did not appear in. Echo star  Getting a tan 11:33, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Jet: Silver Nomination
I looked at his article, and having only appeared once, I think he's pretty good. -- Sky Storm's brewing... 19:01, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. There's not much more to add. Echo star  Getting a tan 19:20, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed up his family tree. It looks good now-- n i g h t  s h i n e  05:30, July 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked permission from Insane to help clean some of these longstanding nominations up and she agreed. So are there any other comments before one of the senior warriors puts the vote up? -- Sandy star 14:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, Jet looks fine to me. Echo  star  Getting a tan 11:33, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Stonestream - Silver Nomination
Well? Lightning talk 09:50, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. -- Sandy star 12:35, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good. ♥Ice storm★  22:21, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Considering he only appeared once, he looks good! Echo star  Getting a tan 19:58, July 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked permission from Insane to help clean some of these longstanding nominations up and she agreed. So are there any other comments before one of the senior warriors puts the vote up? -- Sandy star 14:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * He looks okay to me. Echo  star  Getting a tan 11:34, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Dove's Wing - Silver Nomination
Looks okay to me. Lightning talk 10:07, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Again, looks good to me. -- Sandy star 12:35, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

He looks fine to me. ♥Ice storm★  22:20, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I disagree. This should be expanded as much as possible, considering that she is only in one book with only a handful of appearances. Could someone work on that? I'm away at camp most of the time this week. Echo star  Getting a tan 20:00, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

I can't. I do not own the Power of Three series. Insane, Sandy, Ice, or anybody else who owns it? Lightning talk 09:00, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I will look into it, now that I'm back from the beach. Echo star  Getting a tan 11:35, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ravenpaw - Silver Nomination
Nothing to be said. Lightning talk 10:27, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Well, he was missing most of his citations so I copied them across from other pages and also used the new format. I've also checked the tenses and links, but I think some of the OS sections could be expanded - perhaps the ones where he was still a part of ThunderClan. -- Sandy star 12:28, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Could someone work on that? Echo star  Getting a tan 20:01, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Birdy - Silver Nomination
I expanded her history as much as is possible, added page numbers for her citations and included a quote; I think she's ready for silver. -- Sandy star 12:08, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see anything wrong.  Z  Nightsong 18:48, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Me either. ♥Ice storm★  22:09, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think she's ready. You did a good job, Sandy! Echo star  Getting a tan 20:03, July 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked permission from Insane to help clean some of these longstanding nominations up and she agreed. So are there any other comments before one of the senior warriors puts the vote up? -- Sandy star 14:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, Birdy's ready to me. Echo  star  Getting a tan 11:37, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Blackstar- Silver Nomination
I have been working on his article for a while and he is almost complete. I added quotes and expanded his history. The only thing he needs is some work on his Twilight history. I don't have the book, could someone work on that. After that he is ready. Whitestorm17 17:16, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded his Twilight history. ♥Ice storm★  12:36, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Ice! :) Whitestorm17 13:53, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

He looks ready to me. Echo star  Getting a tan 20:06, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Flick - Silver Nomination
I added a quote and cited his description. There's not really anything more to be done; I think he's ready for silver. Oblivion Got it memorized?

He looks good. ♥Ice storm★  12:13, July 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with this. -- Sandy star 22:44, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. Cherryfur123  Just stick with the script... 17:38, July 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked permission from Insane to help clean some of these longstanding nominations up and she agreed. So are there any other comments before one of the senior warriors puts the vote up? -- Sandy star 14:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, Flick looks ready to me. Echo  star  Getting a tan 11:38, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Pearnose - Silver Nomination
I haven't read BOTC so I don't know how complete her history is, but her article looks good and the history looks about right for a character of her importance. Please correct me if I am wrong, but she looks good for silver to me. -- Sandy star 20:36, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it looks good.-- n i g h t  s h i n e  22:35, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, I snuck into a bookstore and read the whole thing, so it looks pretty good to me. W   a  t  e  r   bender MouseHRULES!   22:53, July 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked permission from Insane to help clean some of these longstanding nominations up and she agreed. So are there any other comments before one of the senior warriors puts the vote up? -- Sandy star 14:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks okay to me. Echo  star  Getting a tan 11:39, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oakstep and Mousefang?
When did it ever say that he was her apprentice? I read over the prologue of SkyClan's Destiny in the browse inside and I didn't see anything saying that he used to be Oakpaw from Firestar's Quest. Was this just an assumption? -- n i g h t  s h i n e  22:35, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

They're no reason to not assume so. Mousefang is an elder, so it would be logical to assume her apprentice would be, and they both have the same description. I don't think Vicky would make up a new cat just to be an elder when the other elders are cats that have already appeared. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ 天の道を行き、総べてを司る男. 04:12, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Technically, Nightshine, you're right, because we just assumed it. But I agree with Goldenpelt here; the Hunters wouldn't just make a new character, and the timing is about right, too. Echo star  Getting a tan 11:41, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

New Rules.
Hello, fellow members of Project Characters. First, I want to thank you all for your increased activity in the past couple of months, and also apologize for my somewhat absence. But as you may have noticed, along with more members and more activity comes a much longer project talk page, with more sections that are lost in the shuffle or just abandoned. So, I've come up with a couple of new rules for the project that should hopefully help this page stay neater without disrupting the nomination process too much:


 * One user can only have two nominations up at one time. (this does not include those that are up for voting, just those that are being discussed here on the talk page) This may sound familiar to those of you who also work in PCA, but I think here it can also really help, because it will make it easier for a person to focus on those two nominations and see them through to voting rather than nominating more and forgetting about earlier ones.


 * Nominations older than one month will be archived! I'm sorry about this one, because I know sometimes it can take a while to get organized with others to work on a nomination, but there are several at the top of the page which have been continually discussed but not much work has been going on, and if they stay there for a long time that's just more length for this page. In rare cases there may be exceptions to this rule if people are still actively working and editing on that page and it is nearly ready, but in most cases, it will simply be archived, and the person who was working on it may re-nominate it later, but before renominating should fix any problems raised in the first nomination. This will save you time in the second nom and ensure that it goes to voting that time.


 * No more multiple cats to one nomination. At least for now. I know sometimes minor characters from the same story will have very similar pages, but having more than one cat in a nomination makes it just more difficult to check each page and easier to miss something. You can still nominate two similar cats at once, but keep in mind that those are your two nominations ;)


 * This one is more of just a guideline, but remember that this page is not the article's talk page - meaning, if you have a question about one specific article, please put it on that article's talk page rather than here, as that once again, just makes the page longer. If it's a question about several characters or all characters by all means put it here, but if it's just about one, then try not to post it here, please.

Alright, I hope these rules can help us stay more organized now. If you have any questions, suggestions, or problems with any of these rules don't hesitate to say it - I can be reasonable on occasion, and these rules may be subject to change. Unless we make changes to them, I'll start using them once everyone's had a chance to see. insane brick'd 13:58, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

I had an idea that we can only have so many nominations up at a time, to keep it under, but if a user can only have a nomination up, I guess that makes my point pretty. . . pointless. W   a  t  e  r   bender MouseHRULES!   17:08, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

These are good rules. I think it will make the Project more organized. ♥Ice storm★  01:59, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

K, sounds reasonable to me :) <font color="Lime">Willow <font color="Lime">pool "Let's look for donuts in the wilderness!"  01:00, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I think this will really help. I feel like my Half Moon nomination had been lost in a sea of other nominations xD Nice work on this Insane :) Night  Fall 21:57, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

It sounds pretty reasonable to me. I don't really agree with no multiple cats for one nomination, but Insane, you did say at least for now.... :-) Echo  star  Getting a tan 11:45, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Tawnyspots- Silver Nomination
Well, I think he's ready, considering he only appears in one book. <font color="981f1f" style="background:Gold">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> Just stick with the script... 17:35, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

He looks fine. Maybe add a quote? I'll do it in a few minutes. Oblivion Got it memorized?  00:05, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Done. I think he's ready now. Oblivion Got it memorized?  01:53, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the quotes, Oblivion! Anyone else have any suggestions? <font color="981f1f" style="background:Gold">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> Just stick with the script... 20:58, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Could we add a bit more detail about Tawnyspots in Forest of Secrets? I don't know if we can, since I don't have the book. Echo star  Getting a tan 11:47, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'll try and do it from memory. Oblivion   Fly my pretties, fly...  16:37, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Done. I hope that's enough. Oblivion   Fly my pretties, fly...  16:46, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ashfur - Silver Nomination
I would like to nominate Ashfur for Silver. I found his father (Whitestorm) and added it to his charcat template and family member. <span style="color:Red; font family:Chalkduster; background:Black; border:5px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Saffron;">Tawny HEAT WAVE!! 20:31, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

What Ashfur is this Tawny? ThunderClan or ShadowClan. :) Shruggy talk 22:52, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm assuming she means TC. But Tawny, where did you find out Whitestorm was his father? The Warriors website information is false. If you can find it mentioned in a book or from the author's mouth, then that would be enough. Oblivion Got it memorized?  23:07, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

ThunderClan, I'm sorry. I saw it on the warriors website, I didn't know that it was false information. I'll delete Whitestorm as his father if no one else has. <span style="color:Red; font family:Chalkduster; background:Black; border:5px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Saffron;">Tawny HEAT WAVE!! 01:52, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's already been done. To avoid confusion, when linking Ashfur, link to Ashfur (TC)'s page, not just Ashfur. It was changed already, but that's just in the future for you. Oblivion Got it memorized?  02:14, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Smokekit and Mottlekit? Are they real? I don't remember any name given for the two dead siblings, however Smokekit has a book reference... -- Sandy star 07:00, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * None of Brindleface's kits were named in the books until either Forest of Secrets or Rising Storm. And that reference is just to the page where it tells us that she has four kits. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 07:07, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Who added that he was "plump"? I personally don't think that this should be on the article if it was mentioned a long time ago. He could have easily lost the weight by now. Oblivion Got it memorized?  11:04, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I added the TC link, and I'll delete the plump part. <span style="color:Red; font family:Chalkduster; background:Black; border:5px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Saffron;">Tawny HEAT WAVE!! 13:48, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Was it confirmed that Sandstorm is Ashfur and Ferncloud's half-sister? It was never confirmed that Redtail wasn't Ferncloud and Ashfur's father. Echo star  Getting a tan 11:49, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Also, Rising Storm could be expanded, as well as most of the NP sections. I'll see what I can do about that. Echo star  Getting a tan 11:53, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Residence References
I was looking at some characters pages and saw that there had been many arguements over where a cat was (alive, StarClan, etc.) and I thought we could reference where a cat was so these arguments could be resolved. If a cat has been verified to be a StarClan member we could reference it, with when it was said that cat was in StarClan. It's just an idea of mine. I won't reference anything until we discuss it here. Thanks! Whitestorm17 15:00, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that these should be referenced. It's not like the living Clans where it is mentioned in every allegiances page etc. It should be referenced and I believe most references have already been found on the StarClan and Place of No Stars pages (I could be wrong). It would be a simple matter of making sure these were included in character articles also. -- Sandy star 15:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks Sandy, should we start referencing the character pages? Whitestorm17 16:19, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

That's a good idea, Whitestorm; I've been wondering about that. We should probably make templates for the dead cats, like we have for the living ones. That way, we can put the reference on the template, so we wouldn't have to reference it every where that character is listed. But I'm not sure, would that work? Night Fall 19:45, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Nightfall :D! I think it would work better without a template but, that is just my opinion. Does anybody else have any ideas? Whitestorm17 22:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

A template is good. It's a lot less work than changing every page if their residence becomes known. (Well, we have to do that anyway, but only once.) -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 22:23, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

We could do a group reference, I think that would work better than a template. Some users don't know how to use templates. Whitestorm17 22:29, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * This may sound way too simple... but can we not just add a reference to the article on the charcat next to where it says their residence... why on earth do we need a template? Sorry if I'm being dense... -- Sandy star 22:43, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * We're talking about dead cats, Sandy. xD -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 22:47, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Um... yes, I'm well aware of that... ah forget it. Just ignore me at any rate. -- Sandy star 22:50, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's exactly what I meant, I think we might as well just add a reference like Sandy said. It seems so much simpler. Shall we start referencing? Whitestorm17 23:38, July 21, 2010 (UTC)b


 * I assume she means to add a reference saying that they're in StarClan/The Dark Forest, since we already agreed not to actually put them there as a residence? -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 23:44, July 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, any other opinions before we start? Is everyone satisified with this? :) Whitestorm17 00:14, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * You might want to check this by Insane and the project leads to make sure there is nothing they want to add first. -- Sandy star 00:18, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Is there a way to make it show up as a note, rather than a reference with a number? -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 00:28, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, we can wait for Insane or Gray to check this out. Goldenpaw, why do you want it to show up as a not instead of a reference, I don't see anything wrong with a reference. I was just wondering. Whitestorm17 00:32, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, reference would make it seem like someone was making a citation, while I note would show that it's not about their current affiliation. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 00:34, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think it would be showing that it is about their current affiliation, just that they had been seen. Whitestorm17 00:41, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Now I'm getting really confused on how we're going to set this up. xD -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 00:44, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Lol, sorry if I am being confusing, it happens a lot. ;) What I think is we put a reference on each page in the family section by their current status (alive, StarClan or Dark Forest). Does that make sense? XD Whitestorm17 01:06, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * It would be an overkill to use a template. We use them for living cats to avoid changing information about dozens of cats in hundreds of articles at the release of each book. Dead cats' "statuses" don't change that often. A simple reference is enough in my opinion. <span style="background-color: #705EA0; -moz-border-radius: 12px 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Helix talk 11:22, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree with Helix, we could just use group references for the living cats, there is no need for a template. Whitestorm17 13:02, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I assume it would basically be:
 * And the like? -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 07:47, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * And the like? -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 07:47, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks to Wikipedia, I found out how to do what I was talking about with the notes. Click -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 08:12, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I still don't see why we can't just make it a reference, instead of complicating it more. Whitestorm17 17:58, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't really see how this is any more complicated than a reference. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 19:09, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Not more complicated to use, but most users on this wiki are already familiar with references. It just seems easier to stick to that. Whitestorm17 19:59, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, it technically is a reference, only with a group rather than just a regular reference. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 20:27, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know, i'm not trying to be rude or bossy, but I don't see the point of changing too many things. It would work just as fine without changing it. Whitestorm17 00:15, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm just suggesting a neater way of doing it. It isn't a citation, so it shouldn't really be listed as one. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 00:48, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * You yourself, said a note was the same as a reference, and it it isn't saying that StarClan and The Place of No Stars are affiliations, if that's what you are worried about. ;)Whitestorm17 01:05, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Either way, it's what the Project Leaders decide. And no, I'm not worried about that. >> -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 01:17, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, we can wait for Insane to decide. Where is she? She hasn't been on in a few days. Whitestorm17 02:38, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * If you look at her page it says she is away on overnight camp. She'll get to this when she can. -- Sandy star 09:31, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, sorry, I didn't realize that. =) Whitestorm17 12:59, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, sorry for missing all this, but I had a very eventful week full of being terrible at volleyball, Apache relay, and sleeping outside :P Anyways, I'm not sure I understand the proposal here: you want to place a citation after affiliation to explain their residence upon death? It seems to me that it would be much easier to add another line into the Charcat that says something like "residence" or "residence after death" (which would only appear if something was put in for it) and then put StarClan or Place of No Stars, with the regular kind of citation. That seems the simplest solution and would also end all the hooplah with people changing the affiliations to StarClan/Dark Forest. insane brick'd 14:18, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Insane, I meant in the family section by each cat it tells if they are alive, in StarClan, The Place of no Stars, or unknown. We could put a reference by each of those saying when they were seen there, mainly just if they are in StarClan or The Dark Forest, not in the charcat. Do you understand what I mean, not the charcat the family section. :) Whitestorm17 21:29, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I dunno, Insane's idea makes more sense than anything we've suggested. xD -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 21:56, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'm kind of confused about what she means, in the charcat with residence after death? Either way, we still need to reference it. What I mean is, in the family section, by a family member it says "Verified StarClan member", all we need to do is put a reference beside it saying when they were seen in StarClan. Whitestorm17 23:29, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for making us aware of this, Whitestorm. It doesn't make sense that the character's family members are shown their statuses when the actual character doesn't. I agree with Insane on this topic. Adding another section to the charcat would work fine. How exactly does that work, anyway? Echo star  Getting a tan 11:57, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, now I understand with your idea, Whitestorm, but I think it'd be a pain to add a whole new load of citations to the family section when it's pretty clogged already. But you still brought up a very good point, we don't really list characters "afterlives" anywhere. It's a simple matter to add it to the Charcat, even I might be able to manage that XD I think if we put it on the charcat, with citation, that's the best way, because then if people want verification it's not hard for them to just go the character's page. insane brick'd 13:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, so how should we add it to the charcat, what is the coding? Whitestorm17 17:04, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

I can add it. -- Gοlδεnρεlτ FRΣΣ YΩUR HΣAT 19:49, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hailstar- Silver Nomination
I think he's ready. <font color="981f1f" style="background:Gold">Cherryfur123 <sup style="line-height: 1em; "> Just stick with the script... 21:03, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. His history is very expanded for such a minor character. Oblivion Fly my pretties, fly...  21:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Code of the Clans could be expanded some. I'll look into it. Echo star  Getting a tan 11:59, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it as much as I could. Oblivion   Fly my pretties, fly...  15:50, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Mossheart - Silver Nomination
Her article just needs a few citations and a quote, and it will be good to go to me! W   a  t  e  r   bender <font color="#009dff">MouseHRULES!   02:36, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

She looks really good! She's definitely ready. Oblivion  Fly my pretties, fly...  11:10, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yep, she looks ready. ♥Ice storm★  14:36, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

She looks fine to me. Echo star  Getting a tan 12:00, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article - August '10
Hi guys, and sorry for being late once again D: I meant to post this on tuesday but forgot, and then I wasn't home until now. Anyways, you probably know the drill by now - who do you think we should feature next month? (And maybe this will be the first month we share the feature box with PB and PW!) insane  brick'd 14:22, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

What about Leafpool? ♥Ice storm★  14:25, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I was looking at Leopardstar's article and she has a very good one. I would vote for her to be featured. Whitestorm17 21:31, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Not Leafpool; some things on her article still need to be cited. As of right now, Leopardstar would be a pretty good choice. I'll look into some other cats that could work. Echo star  Getting a tan 12:01, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Cloudstar, Yellowfang, Ferncloud, Rippletail, Skywatcher, and Leopardstar would all make great feature articles. However, out of those six, I think we should put Yellowfang. She was most active in the OS, but she is getting more active as the Dark Forest continues to rise. Echo star  Getting a tan 12:12, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't think Yellowfang is ready, there is still a lot of stuff that needs to be archived and her history could be expanded. I would vote for either Leopardstar or Rippletail. My first choice would be Leopardstar. Whitestorm17 12:53, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

I like the idea of Leopardstar, since her role in the series has just come to a close, and her article looks nice... insane brick'd 13:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, I'll work on citing Leafpool later. Anyways, Leopardstar looks good. ♥Ice storm★  14:13, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

My only problem with Leopardstar is that her trivia section has very little citations. If those were added, I would vote for her. Oblivion  Fly my pretties, fly...  15:52, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Or, what about Sootfur? ♥Ice storm★  16:21, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with you Insane about Leopardstar's role coming to a close. Oblivion, we could start working on her trivia section now. Whitestorm17 16:29, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

I did a cleanup of Leopardstar's article (tenses, links, typos, style), it's OK, but needs a citation for mate and mentor. <span style="background-color: #705EA0; -moz-border-radius: 12px 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Helix talk 16:37, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Her mate and mentor are cited. Whitestorm17 17:03, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * It is cited like "Revealed in an Erin Hunter chat". It should be indicated which chat was that, and a link to it. <span style="background-color: #705EA0; -moz-border-radius: 12px 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 12px 4px; padding: 1px 5px 0px 5px;"> Helix talk 17:24, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding. =) Whitestorm17 17:59, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sandstorm- Silver Nomination
I have been working on her article over the past few weeks and I think she is ready. Whitestorm17 21:33, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Long Shadows could be expanded. I'll look into it. Echo star  Getting a tan 12:15, July 25, 2010 (UTC)