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Quince (KP)- For Approval
I hope I'm not going over the image limit cuz if I am I'll take it down and put it up later. Well, here she is. How is she? -- Luckflight Kiss Me I'm Irish 23:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this is over the limit. There are two discussions.--  Night shine   ♥  23:26, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

There are three discussions up so this in within the limit. Blur the shading and highlights more. Ashshadow I'm blue da ba dee da ba di 23:38, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink darker. And add shading to the ear and paw that's not facing us. Icestorm 23:43, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Whoops I didn't see that. Blur the highlights and shading.--  Night shine   ♥  23:54, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: How's this? -- Luckflight Kiss Me I'm Irish 00:08, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks magenta. Also, Blur the highlights and shading more. But this is good for your first one! Maplefern Carrying the torch... 20:52, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I redid the shading and highlights. Earpink too. This good? -- Luckflight Kiss Me I'm Irish 22:19, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

She should have a collar LoveFall Can you feel the love tonight? 00:21, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and highlights more. Icestorm 17:07, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Her right arm seems too dark. Lighten it a bit--  Night shine   ♥  23:05, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I fixed the shading, highlights and arm. I'm having trouble with the collar. Any tips on how to make it on pixlr? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 22:33, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I suggust making the collar in paint then coloring it in pixlr. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:44, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think it'd be easier to do it all in pixlr, but of course it's your choice. If you do it in pixlr just take the pencil tool on 1 or 2 pixel size, and just... draw the collar. X3 ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 04:35, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a tad.  Saint Ice   ♣  02:10, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I just started over and made it a whole lot better. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:11, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: How's the collar look? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:20, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

It looks a bit thin and the tag needs to be smaller. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:22, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: thickened the collar.

The shading needs more blurring--  Night s  h  i  n  e  ♣  00:40, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Try and copy the collar on the kittypet image. User:QuailflightTheCat ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ We are the World...05:43, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: blurred shading and fixed collar. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 15:13, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back shading. Sorry but it dosen't look that.........natural. If you see what I mean? Fawnstorm 11:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC) 13:53, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: better? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 16:24, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Listen, you're having some though time on the collar. Plus Quince was never a queen. i'd just do the kittypet version. ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ We are the World...05:42, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, she was a queen. In "The Rise of Scourge" she had given birth to, Ruby, Socks, and Tiny, who later became Scourge. So yes, Quince was a queen. But, collars are hard to draw, especially on queen blanks. I agree with Quail, try doing her kittypet image if you like Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 19:46, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

K I'll try...-- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:17, March 2, 2010 (UTC)-- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 14:55, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded:How'd this turn out? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:58, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, this is the first time I've critiqued on a Kittypet Blank, but I'm pretty sure the ear pink should be slightly darker (As Quince is a gray cat)... Otherwise, I think this is great! =D

Shistar Mai Talk Page 22:03, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: darkened ear pink. How's this? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 22:08, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I cant really see the earpink now. Choose a reddish color. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:42, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded: fixed eapink. Better? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 23:04, March 2, 2010 (UTC)'''

Blur the shading on the tail and back. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:29, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: How does this look? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 02:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well...how's this look? HELLO? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 21:00, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Calm down, people will comment when they can and its only been a day. Add more shading to the haunch and blur the shading and highlights. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:59, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's been a little longer than a week, please work on this or it will be declined Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 06:11, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I have a question. I redid her and I was wondering if I had to add highlights or not. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 14:55, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

No you dont have to add highlights, but, you need more shading around the shoulder and haunch. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:05, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blended... and choosing a file name that doesn't consist entire of caps would be good. ✐S aN  dY  15:08, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined. ✐S aN  dY  22:27, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long. Better? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 23:11, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Just blur the shading more--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:16, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

How's this? -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 23:29, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Moony, well... I just hope you realize that she has amber eyes, and also that the ear pink is brown. No means of being a downer. Brightmoon  The Sign of the Moon!  19:16, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Repuploaded: Fixed earpink. As for the eyes, they are amber and are supposed to be amber. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 00:31, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink needs to br bigger. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:10, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Done!:) I hope this gets approved soon!-- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 01:22, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

It's close. Just add some shading around the haunch and shoulder and blur it some more. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:19, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Ok. Am I the only person who thinks pixlrs fails when it come to blurring? I don't have GIMP so I don't know how I can blurr it any more than it already is. -- Moonflight Come The Dark Side. We Have Catnip... 21:03, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well, your shading is in peculiar spaces. I use pixlr, and I'm sure everyone here has had problems. Just keep blurring. Also, where the regular fur color and shading meet, blur THERE. That way It looks perfect. I could help you if you want. But it could take awhile.... ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ We are the World... 23:53, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sandstorm (A) - For Approval


I'm back with a new charart! And (luckily) this one is about 1,000 times better then Icicle. This is 37 but 2 of the things were discussions so technically this is 35. I just want to say thatnks to Ashshadow for some great advice and help and to al of the turtorial authors, you were very helpful. Anyways, quistions? Comments? -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:11, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. Saint Ice 23:23, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is this better? i learned an important lesson for the next time I do a tabby:shade FIRST! Then you can do the tabby markings. -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:40, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I put it near the top again. The shading needs some more burring and the stripes need to be thickened a bit more--  Night shine   ♣  01:41, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

You're actually supposed to do the stripes before shading so that everything is shaded equally. In addition to what Nightshine said make the stripes a little longer. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:44, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Gah1 I accidentaly deleted the file! It migt take me a while but I'll get her back up soon.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 16:47, February 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm going to have to disagree Ash - I always do my shading first and use the burn tool to add stripes resulting in the same evenly shaded effect without the overblurred stripes because of trying to blur the shading. Anyway, this is good Artimas, just make everything more polished. Make sure there aren't gaps in the shading, so it looks consistent, and make your stripes a little thicker. ✐S  aN  dY  22:42, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I forgot about burning the stripes on. My comment only applies if you paint the stripes on. Did you check your recyling bin for the sandpaw file? Haikage Ash's Talk 02:25, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Artimas, if you just save the image from this site (Right click the image above and select 'save as') then you can get it that way. For the image, I can't say much that the others haven't already said, so, yeah. ♫ insaneular ♫ Down at Fraggle Rock! 20:34, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

You guys are life savers! I'll be back in just a minute. Hopefully.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:16, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'm back. i tried to do everything you guys said. How does it look?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:38, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Her stripes are a bit too dark and I dont see that many stripes on her tail. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:42, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes a bit more.--Shaf Girl  03:48, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Is this good?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:19, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone comment? Is this good or not? I'm sorry, I'm just really impatient and I can't wait until my first charart gets approved! :D -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:35, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes darker on the leg farthest from us. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 22:06, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Is this dark enough?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 01:00, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes look a bit SQUARE, was that on purpose? No hurt intended, but I think you should have the stripes move around the body. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 23:03, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't seem to get them circly. Is it ok like this? Sorry, keep in mind, this nis only my first charart.-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:35, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, wow! Is this your first attempt at a tabby? If so, it's pretty good! (You should see my first attempt at a tabby. LOL. xD) But the stripes don't exactly resemble the ones on Sandstorm's Warrior/Queen image. Try making them a bit more curved, and make them like tree branches so they split off in differant places. See This page if you really can't get the hang of it. ^_^ Shistar Mai Talk Page 18:39, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I know that she's facing the other way in her warrior pic, but I think she has too many stripes. Haikage Ash's Talk 18:47, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I will work on that when I get home, I'm at school right now. ^^ -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 18:21, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Redone, is this better? I did less stripes and tried to make them curve more. :) -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 21:44, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes a bit thicker. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:12, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Better? -- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 23:45, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

So...comments?-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 00:26, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone please tell me: is this goo? Sorry, I feel like this has been up forever and no ones approving or ging help eather. I really need something to do. :P -- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 23:45, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

The colour isn't the same as her warrior image--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:51, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Are you talking about the stripes or the pelt? Because I got the pelt color from her warrior image and I burned the stripes on. -- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 01:01, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

The stripe color isn't right--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:22, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ashshadow and Sandy told me to burn the stripes on, should I make it darker? Sorry for all ther stuipid questions ^^ -- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 17:22, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

I was talking about shading not burning the stripes on. I think ther should be a bit lighter. Haikage Ash's Talk 19:26, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, I'll work on that now.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 21:58, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, done. Are these stripes better? I can't wait til this gets approved!-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 22:12, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

The shading still doesn't look right. Add shading around the arms and chest, not just the back--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     21:42, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think I had some shading on the lgs and chest but I added more. Is this good?-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 15:19, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading some more. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:03, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

I can kind of see the shading on the back, and you should blur it. Brightmoon  The Sign of the Moon!  19:18, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't sure what shading you meant Ash so I blurred it all. Blurry enough? ^^ -- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 21:28, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry... But no. On the back, there is a distinct line where the shading starts. Sorry Artimas. Brightmoon  The Sign of the Moon!  23:21, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

The shading and stripes need blending a little more. ✐S aN  dY  16:48, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I blurred some more, I think it's good but for some reason, when its on pile it looks goodb but when I post it its all weird. Go figure. Anyways, is this better?-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 21:25, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

You may want to make the stripes a bit darker. I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks so or not. -- Moonflight Come The Dark Side. We Have Catnip... 00:40, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but I had them dakr and someone said they neded to be lighter. But I don't know, should they be daker? -- Bramblepath Brightshadow is mine! 19:44, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

I think the stripe color is ok. Her description is barely visible tabby stripes. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:14, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah. That's right. The color's good. -- Moonflight Come The Dark Side. We Have Catnip... 22:37, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

It's ok Moonflight, you thought it needed to be fixed so you saids smething. That's what you're supposed to do. ^^ Anything else I need to fix?-- Bramblepath Brightshadow is mine! 15:46, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading around the haunch some more and add some to the top of her head. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:31, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred a little more, the earpink should be a little bigger and she needs some shading on the leg farthest from us. Crystals and Pearls *glimmer* 20:35, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this took so long. I did every thing but I'm kinda fuzzy on what you meant by thickening the shading. Can you elaborate? Thanks. ^^ -- Bramblepath Brightshadow is mine! 02:12, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Smudge(KP) - For Approval.


Well... here you go. I know that Spottedsky reserved this earlier, but there was no CharArt (that I know of) for smudge yet, and it was reserved awhile ago, so, I hope this works out. So... comments?Jmiles 06:46, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

This is good! Darken the shading, and change the file name. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 11:19, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh wait. You already have one image up for approval. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 12:04, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's good, but the spots need to be bigger, and Maple's right, you have one up for approval already. I don't know much yet, but I think the senior warriors will decline it, or

something. Crystalpaw *glimmer* 20:14, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I thought someone already reserved this? O.o -  B-Day -Kitty!   :D  21:22, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Jmiles, this will have to be declined until your first image is approved. I think one of the seniors warriors will have to decline this. When your first image is approved, then you can put this up. Rain whisker  22:23, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know, it said he was black and white, not black with white spots... Quoth the Raven, Nevermore  00:49, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

It never said that he was black with white. It showed that in Cats of the Clans, but that book can't really be trusted as a lot of the characters in that book were done completely wrong. He's white with black patches, and it says that he has amber eyes, not blue. Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 05:48, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

OK. White with black patches, amber eyes, darken the shading. Consider it done. As for having one image already up for approval, if you haven't noticed already, IT CANNOT BE APPROVED!!!! It was already reserved by Insane. Go up and see it if you want. Somebody please help explain all this reservation stuff and approval stuff on my Talk Page, because I'm really, really confused! Jmiles 19:06, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's fine. I'll decline the Mudclaw now. ✐S aN  dY  19:07, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! After it's declined, can I try Smudge again? And I wouls still like some explanation on my talk page, if it isn't too much trouble. Jmiles 19:15, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

You can continue working on him now, and I'll come and write what will undoubtedly turn into a rather long explanation (through no fault of my own) on your talk page. ✐S aN  dY  20:41, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry. I sorta died on the blur tool. I had a bad day. (my internet crashed twice and I have the flu)Jmiles 05:40, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Awww, I'm sorry to hear that! Well, he looks better. But I would define the patches more, they look to blurred now. And also, add ear pink to the left ear Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 06:43, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

His eyes look more orange than amber. Haikage Ash's Talk 15:41, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

OK, less orange eyes, more patch definition, and ear pink in the left ear. Got it. Jmiles 16:21, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Changed the eye color, redefined the black patches. I was a little confused about where exactly to put the ear pink because of the angle that he was at. If it's the exact same image, tell me. My computer did not want to put this one on, and it kept uploading the old one. Jmiles 16:46, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I understand. My computer doesnt want me to upload the image period. As for your image, blur the patches a tiny bit more and his eyes still seem orange. Amber is a bit more golden. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:51, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

'Kay. I'll do that. Jmiles 16:59, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Still not quite amber... I think. I pushed the rate on the blur tool to 80%, and blurred the patches more. Once again, tell me if there's anything wrong with the image (I mean upload wise) Jmiles Brambleshadow's Den. 21:00, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

The eyecolor is fine now. Sorry when I took it out of thumbnail size it showed up under your first message. Imagewise, try to make the white a little less gray and darken the shading. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:48, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. OK, I got the shading darkened and redefined the white in his fur. <font color="#FF3300" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold">Jmiles Brambleshadow's Den. 02:08, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Instead of having his fur w/ black spots, make it more like less circular patches and clusters, and the eyes are a little too brown. Try using a reddish orange instead of a brownish one. Crystals and Pearls *glimmer* 01:43, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

When you say to make "more less circular patches and clusters", do you mean like a tortoiseshell, just with only 2 colors? I think I know what you mean, maybe. I can do the eye color thing though. <font color="#FF3300" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold">Jmiles Brambleshadow's Den. 01:49, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

I think that's what she's talking about, so it's sort of like the style used here. Also, there's blurred lineart in various places. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   21:04, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Whoops, forgot to say that I think the patches are fine as they are now, though. :) -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   21:10, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

'Kay, I'll fix the lineart. But do I change the patches or not, because I really don't want to. <font color="#FF3300" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold">Jmiles Brambleshadow's Den. 05:23, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

No, I think that the patches are fine. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   01:08, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

There is too much gray. Dark hallows 18:26, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I'll leve the patches as they are. Do you just want me to use dodge to get rid of some gray? <font color="#FF3300" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold">Jmiles Brambleshadow's Den. 20:02, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Alrighty, I used the dodge tool to lighten it, amber-ed the eyes up, and fixed the lineart. <font color="#FF3300" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold">Jmiles Brambleshadow's Den. 22:22, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

make the patches bigger, because they look a bit like spots. Though this is really good! Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  16:22, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Make the patches bigger, and also, you might see that you went outside the outline... Brightmoon   The Sign of the Moon!  19:20, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Can do, I'll reupload soon. Just got a lot on my plate right now. <font color="#FF3300" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold">Jmiles Brambleshadow's Den. 03:13, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

The eyes look red. Choose a more orangey colour. :) Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  19:50, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

It's been a week, please work on this or it will be declined Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:57, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

I will, sorry! I really am! I'm just having computer issues. <font color="#FF3300" face="Freestyle Script">Jmiles Clicky, Clicky!!! 05:41, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sharpclaw Blanks - For Approval


I've made these a while ago and now I finally get to put them up. Yay!--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:59, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

The back paw looks strange and the fur on the back can go.  B-Day -Kitty!   :D  00:04, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

I dunno if it's just my computer (Sorry if it is) but when I try to use the PaintBucket to fill in the main body (This applies to all the blanks) on Pixlr, the eye that is fully visible fills in as well. D= <span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:Blue; background:Black; border:0px dashed; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:Blue;">Shistar Mai Talk Page 00:08, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

The paws are oddly shaped: They have an extra toe, or so it looks like. There are also visible gaps in the lineart in the eyes. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 00:11, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded I made the backs unfluffy. I think it might be your computer doing that Shistar. On the front paws of cats they have a weird thumb-like toe thing. They have that on the Loner blanks as well. I hope that's what you were talking about.--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:14, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Shigura: It does that on a lot of the blanks, I think it happened when Pixlr was updated or something like that. Nightshine: the back hind paw looks a bit flat, try bringing the front of it forward a little bit in a curve like the other hind paw. About the front paws, (on the loner blanks) I don't think there's an extra toe...I think that's a tuft of fur on the longhair blanks, so in my opinion I think that you should get rid of the extra toe. However, aside from those things, these look really good! I just have to say that I love the fur on the longhairs. :) -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   00:54, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded fixed back paw and got rid of extra toe.--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:16, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the nose shorter on the right than on the left. -- Gοlδεnpαω Appare! 01:26, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

The back paw looks a bit too big, perhaps make it smaller? Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 01:34, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made back paw smaller and fixed nose--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:59, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Make the shoulder a bit more...subtle, I guess you could say. Right now it's just this sort of drop from the neck to the back.--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  06:38, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

The front paws look a bit like camel feet. Maybe make the foot round and then put the line in instead on individual toes. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:06, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

These are good. I could nevery make good blanks. The face looks a little square if you know what I mean. -- Luckflight Happy St. Patty's Day! 23:09, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded fixed front paws and shoulder--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     02:16, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Would it be okay for me to comment? I think that the faces should be a little rounder. <font color="#000000">Quoth the Raven, <font color="#960018">Nevermore  02:20, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

The longhairs need more facial fur, and some fluff along the back. Dark hallows 17:02, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Ignore my horrible redline (and blue... green). I'm using a touchpad xD.  Dark hallows 17:18, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Those are great. Night! However, the (what would be) belly (under the chest, past the leg in front, nearest to the haunch) looks a little tubby. make it curve inward, JUST A LITTLE! =) Crystals and Pearls *glimmer*  20:23, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made backs a bit more fluffy, lengthened back paw, added haunch, made front paws rounder, added fluffy cheeks and I attempted to fix the head but it looks strange to me.--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:15, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

You're right. I think it's the placement of the eye that makes the head look strange. also make the nose a little bigger. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:19, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made nose bigger--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     02:52, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

The chest is jutting out a bit on the shorthairs. (Lol, I'm all for subtle anatomy.)--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  04:01, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made chest smoother--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:30, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

It has a bit of a flattened face, doesn't it? Echostar~ May StarClan Light Your Path 18:30, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Make the front back leg a little flatter in the paw area so that it doesn't look too round, but not pencil flat. Snowflight 1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  18:37, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

There are still gaps in the eye lineart. Fix those. <font color="#000000">Quoth the Raven, <font color="#960018">Nevermore  21:39, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made foot a bit more flat. Raven: What do you mean? --  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     22:58, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

If you use the paint bucket, the fully visible eye fills in, too. <font color="#000000">Quoth the Raven, <font color="#960018">Nevermore  00:54, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Which program do you use? I use MS paint and that never happens--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:58, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

That only happens in pixlr. I think the eye should be ok because the same thing happens with leader and kittypet blanks. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:00, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

(To Ash- the loner blanks do it, too) I think they look good. <font face="Papyrus">Raven <font face="Papyrus">Randomness!  04:33, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

The paws are still too big. Dark hallows 18:27, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made paws smaller--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:39, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is great! I bet they're going to be approved. What will the eyes look like? Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  16:41, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

They look a little fuzzy to me. ✐S aN  dY  18:48, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Here I'll re-upload the long haired male one--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:33, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:40, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Is the shorthaired female blank blurry, or is that just Expie (My computer's name)? <font face="Papyrus" color="#ffcc33">Raven <font face="Papyrus" color="#ff3366">Randomness!  01:28, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't look blurry on my computer--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:54, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

All except the long haired male looks blurry to me. They still color in fine though. Haikage Ash's Talk 19:28, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's what it looks like on my laptop, too. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   19:52, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

I re-uploaded all the blanks. I hope it's not blurry for anyone now--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     03:40, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Their heads look a bit squashed, and the line where the head overlaps the ear should be a bit rounder. These are really good though! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 02:30, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made head rounder. I'm still not sure of how I can fix the shape of the head. Any suggestions?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     19:57, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Try it like this -

And then the hind leg farthest from us looks kinda strange. Like that line shouldn't stretch that far Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:12, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded thanks for the diagram! That's just what was missing! I fixed the head and far leg--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:29, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

These are so awsome! Now, the little line that overlaps the ear should probably be a bit shorter. And the line should start a smidge lower -  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:44, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded adjusted ear thing--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:58, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:51, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ditto above--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:05, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Be patient, Nightshine :) Wait atleast five days or so before asking for comments. Add a line to indicate where the belly is, because the chest shouldn't automatically connect to the hind leg.  Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:10, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded added belly--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:36, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lower the fur on the longhaired one's cheeks a little Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:09, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded lowered cheek fur--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     03:19, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

I filled it in and shigura is right, the eye that is fully visible does fill in. I don't know how to fix it but maybe there is a gap?<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 16:49, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Acually, Snow, pixlr is doing that now for some reason. I've experianced it with all the blanks, if I fill in the pelt it colors in the eye too. So it's not the blanks, it's pixlr. The only thing I see, is to make the hind paws farthest from us smaller, and maybe thicken the lineart a bit on the longhaired one's cheek fur Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:42, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded made back paw smaller. When I tried thickening the fur on the cheek it looked really weird--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:56, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Should I make the tail on the long haired ones fluffy?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:39, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, add some more tufts of fur to them Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 07:15, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded added fluffiness to tail--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:37, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

My attempt at a redline. :) If you need me to explain anything in greater detail, just ask. Crows 03:02, March 30, 2010 (UTC)



Here's another small redline for the longhaired cat. ^^ Again, if something isn't clear...

Crows 03:14, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded great tips! I did all what you said. Theres too much to list--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     03:53, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry. ;_; I think I went a little overboard with this redline. I meant to just fix the eyes, really, but I got carried away.. I put in the references to actual cats to explain my reasons for the redline. If you choose to make the changes I made, you can go ahead and copy and paste it onto your cat, because there are a lot of tiny details that might be hard to copy freehand. <:3 Hope it helps!



I think that the paws on Crow's redline image are the only things that should be reuploaded. The eyes and cheeks are fine. They only need to be made looking up. :) Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  14:43, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

They're just suggestions. :3 Crows 21:47, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded did all you said. I kind of copied it :3 I hope you don't mind. You can put on your user page that you helped out with them. Comments?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:50, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

No, no, it's alright. ^^ I just editted.  ♥ C row  23:55, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

These are really good, but I think that it's backside needs to be expanded a bit, because it looks a bit skinny behind the legs, where the tail starts. Overall though - Good Job! 121.214.205.161 09:50, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you reuploaded the male longhair. But they look great! Rain whisker  14:32, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

The face went back to its older version... Evanphoto 15:22, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

I like how they look now, they're really good! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 19:59, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

I hope all the new blanks are uploaded. Just tell me if they aren't. Should I change anything on the new ones?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     21:09, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

The first one seems to have gone back to the older blanks...  ♥ C row  01:32, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I re-uploaded it again. I hope it's good now!--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:34, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

These looks much better. I have a couple of picky things though: the edge of the front right paw needs to be rounder, add a pixel to the right ear to make the transition smoother, raise the thin edge of the haunch just a little bit so that the hind paw isn't so squished but it's still low enough, and on the longhairs add a couple of pixels to the tails to smoothen the transition. Here's a diagram to help explain what I'm talking about: (Bramble, sorry about uploading yet another file, once these are approved I'll put the delete tag on it.) --  Ice  throat  I'm a  gullible  genious. 02:09, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded fixed the pixels and made front paw rounder--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:09, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Poppyfrost (A) - For Approval
I love Poppyfrost. And Tortoiseshells. And the reason I put this up was because withdrew Leafdapple. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 23:20, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Do you use GIMP? Anyways, for the image, blur the spots and shading a tad more. Icy Invading the fire 23:24, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred patches and shading. I don't think the changes are showing up... Maplefern Carrying the torch... 23:46, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur the shading on the tail--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:16, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Darkened and blurred shading. I also brightened the highlights. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 11:49, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink should be a little bigger and lighter. Otherwise i love it! Crystals and Pearls *glimmer* 20:29, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Made earpink bigger. I don't think I should lighten it, but if you think I should, please let me know. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 00:22, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ginger on her head and add shading to her right arm--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:28, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Done. Anyway, no, Ice, I don't use GIMP. I use pixlr. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 01:15, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Can you make the black parts more circular?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:19, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I've attempted. Does it look good? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 01:49, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading a bit more--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:54, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darkened shading. I'm assuming you didn't mean on the back or chest. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 02:05, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I just meant on the back. But that's fine. Blur the shading now--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     02:08, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred Shading. Anyway, I realized I've reserved only tortoishells.... Maplefern Carrying the torch... 02:12, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Tail shading needs to be blurred--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     05:04, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I blurred it as much as I could. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 14:28, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading on the tail, and this will be good :) Goldfall Meet me at the end of the rainbow! 00:37, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Blurred and darkened tail shading. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 00:42, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

blur the back shading. If it doesn't work, lighten it instead. -- Icy Invading the fire 22:10, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

It wouldn't really be shading then, and besides, above you told me to darken it. If people want me to still, I will. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 23:00, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Just take the small ginger strip under the black above her arm. once you do that I think she'll be ready. Haikage Ash's Talk 14:18, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in over a week... but I don't actually see any problems with it. As far as I can see, the ginger does extend under the black on the foreleg. Are there any other comments or can we just put the 24 hours on this? ✐S aN  dY  08:28, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

The only reason I said to take it away was because I dont see it in her kit image. Looking back at my comment it wasnt that clear. Sorry. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:53, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wow. My fault. Sorry guys, should I still remove it? Maplefern Carrying the torch... 18:55, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. I just didn't want this to be declined and couln't see the problem. Sorry for the confusion. ✐S aN  dY  18:57, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

The was easy to fix. Maplefern Carrying the torch... 19:06, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the white arm--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     19:17, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Hedgehogflight Hedgehogs are flying! 11:42, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Princess (Q) For Approval
Ughh! I hate the collar. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 20:21, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Make the lineart on the collar thicker, the stripes more like the ones on her kittypet image. But I like this! Maplefern Carrying the torch... 20:37, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Color in her nose. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:51, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Amazing! Just blur the shading on her back and the stripes need a tad more blending. Other than what Maple and Ash said, that's all you have to do. (: this is amazing! -- Icy Invading the fire 21:12, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

This is amazing! But asking (for reference) if we do a kittypet queen, do we need to draw a collar? Because some people do and some don't...-- Artimas Hunter Welcome to Bramblepath's Den 19:36, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Well the only other kittypet queen we've ever done is Ashy's Quince, which has a collar. I would think so, it'd be kinda strange if her kittypet image had a collar and her queen one didn't Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:57, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Collars are evil. But, I think it looks better then before. Anyway, I colored the nose (can't believe I forgot that!) Blurred the back shading, and blurred the stripes a bit more. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 18:54, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the tail stripes a bit--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     05:27, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: Thickened tail stripes Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 04:34, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the back shading--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:46, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like there are a few blank pixels on the back leg near the paw. That might just be the shading but I think they are just blank.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 15:21, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you can fix this or not but the collar gets thinner as it goes toward the back. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:01, March 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * The style of her stripes needs to be the same as on her kittypet version, these stripes look patched and ragged, but the ones on her kittypet image don't. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   22:50, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think these stripes are really nice looking.--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     03:01, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm working on it, I promise :) Just gimme till tomorrow to reupload, I was reading Fading Echoes all day, and didn't get a chance to (Such a good book!) Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:58, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Reuplaoded: Personally, I like the second one a lot better. What do you guys think? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:49, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think the first one is better--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:28, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

I like the second one, but it's ur charat!<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 00:40, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

I like the first one, but the second one looks more like her kittypet image, so I think you should go with the second one. Also, the lineart on the collar is too thin on the first one and too thick on the second one. (Yeah, I know....) -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   00:48, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about the colloar, I don't think I'll be able to redo the colloar without redoing the whole image. I love the first one soooo much, but I also really like the second one. Plus, the second one is closer to her kittypet image. So, I'm torn, which one should I keep? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:06, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oh no wait, nvm about the collar. I'll get to work on thinning the lineart on the second one Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:07, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'd definetly go with the second one but that's just me. Don't let my opinion influence your decision. After all, it is your charart:)22:42, March 26, 2010 (UTC)-- Moonflight Come The Dark Side. We Have Catnip...

Nightfall, could you please keep this on your Current Projects? Dark hallows 00:04, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Uh, okay. I've added her back on. So, delete the first one, and keep the second? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:26, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, keep the decond and delete the first. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   22:53, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Deleted the first one Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 00:38, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken and blur belly shading--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     05:32, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded: I thickened and blurred the belly shading, but when I tried to make the collar lineart thinner it looked really weird. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 22:10, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Foxheart (W) - For Approval
After I messed up on Yellowfang, I have decided to go for something a little easier. XD! X Comments? Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  16:38, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

The shading needs to be blurred.

Reuploaded Not sure if it worked. Did it? Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  17:05, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Not really. Maybe try lightening the shading a tad. Haikage Ash's Talk 19:35, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  19:41, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Try blurring it more, mostly around the haunch and chest--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     05:23, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Better? Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  16:19, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the midriff shading a tad bit more. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   02:25, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Blurred the midriff shading. XD Fawnstorm  The Dark Forest are rising...  09:29, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her haunch and largen the earpink a tad. Darken her shading. Also, her pelt needs to be a more orange colour. Right now it's red. Make it more like her deputy image: ☼ Misty ☼  Here comes the summer...  16:33, March 20, 2010 (UTC) But I got the colour right from her deputy image. I don't see how it looks 'red'? I am doing this on my mums phone so I won't sign off. Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  11:35, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on her chest fur a lot. ☼ Misty ☼ Here comes the summer...  17:04, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Hope it now looks less red. Blurred all the shading. Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  11:35, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the chest shading. Nice job! Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  13:53, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Any better? Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  16:02, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred. If you use Pixlr, I can do it for you. If you use photoshop, or gimp, set the blur tool to %100. Dark hallows 17:19, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

I use Pixlr. :) |How do I do it? It never seem to look any different when I blur it. Fawnstorm  The Dark Forest are rising...  12:58, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Pixlr is fail when it comes to blurred xD. So it won't blur more than that. I can do it in GIMP, if you want? Dark hallows 05:45, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  10:09, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comments? Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  12:49, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'd lighten the earpink a tad. After that it should be ready. -- Moonflight Come The Dark Side. We Have Catnip... 22:45, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

 Dark hallows 00:11, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

It won't let me upload it on Pixlr. And Pixlr won't let me upload cave-guard blanks. Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  17:08, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Soften the shading on the chest and haunches, and make the shading on the tail a little more defined. After that, it should be ready! Echostar 21:43, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sootfur (A) - For Approval


Hi everyone! This is Sootfur when he was an apprentice. CONSTRUCTIVE comments that will help me make it better will be fine! I hope it gets approved!<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 00:38, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

We give out constructive comments all the time. Blur the shading, make the ear pink a bit softer, it's a bit neon. And make the eyes more of an amber colour. Add some highlights. But this really good. Fawnstorm The Dark

Forest are rising... 16:00, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

! This is my first one (besides Diesel, I was tired and dumb!!) Ok!<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 00:38, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure you know this but put Reuploaded in bold every time you have edited it and re-done it.

'''Reuploaded Ok I made the ear pink softer and blurred the shading and changed the color of the eye to more amber. But about the highlights, I know to use the dodge tool but where do I put the highlights?Snowstorm Deputy of LightClan! 16:21, March 22, 2010 (UTC)''' see one of the tutorials for Info on how to highlight them. The ear pink is good but now looks a bit purple. Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  19:57, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Save it as a png. It looks too pixelated right now--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:23, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

If you're not comfortable with highlights you don't have to do them. Besides that and what Nightshine said, blur the shading. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:19, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * nods slowly* ok well im fixing it now. sorry about the break i was at a friends house.<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 00:38, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks ash shadow i like highlights but i don't know how to do them ;). Ok well I did download it as png. I'll try it again and blur the shading

'''Reuploaded Ok I fixed the ear pink and did the highlights but they suck :p! So, um there it is.<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 00:38, March 26, 2010 (UTC)'''

Reuploaded Ok I blurred that shading and downloaded on png. Is it any better?<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 00:38, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

It still looks pixely and the shading needs to be blurred more. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:09, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I blurred the shading but I don't know how to make it less pixely. Sorry about not knowing anything, this is my first charat!<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 00:38, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine, Snow :) Don't feel bad! To be honest thought, I'm not sure how you'd make it less pixly either... anybody? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 07:01, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Night. Any comments on the image?<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 00:38, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more, and make the ear pink a bit redder like on his warrior image. insaneular   Talk  21:38, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed earpink and burred shading<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 21:53, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink a bit bigger and add some shading to his chest. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:39, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Made earpink bigger and added chest shading.<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 20:47, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I put the image at the top of the page; that's where it should be. When you upload a new file, just leave the code up there. Now, you need to add a little more shading on her lower back, and blur all of the existing shade. -- Bramble 23:30, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added lower back shading and blurred existing shading. <font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 23:51, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Try saving it as a .png instead of .jpg. If you already are... *shrugs* <font face="Papyrus" color="#ffcc33">Raven <font face="Papyrus" color="#ff3366">Randomness!  21:02, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading some. Haikage Ash's Talk 21:05, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Do you use MS Paint? Because those can end up pixelly sometimes. <font face="Papyrus" color="#ffcc33">Raven <font face="Papyrus" color="#ff3366">Randomness!  21:20, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

There is no way to undo the pixely as the original was saved under the .jpg format. You will simply to do redo the whole image again under .png as there's positively no way to go back the image before its first save. You must have saved it as jpg before you saved it as .png or it got saved as a .bit (i think thats the right extension) file instead as some of the blanks will try to save this way if your not watching your computer carefully. If it was a gif this could possibly also caused the problem as well so its showing up as png, but the original part when it was pixely will never be able to be deleted. Even if you try to resave it as .png it won't work so don't waste your time. Sorry about this as I hate when I used to find this out about images I love saving :( Now I save everything .png the moment I get it so it can have the best quality.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:48, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Lightened shading. Do I really have to start over? If I do, maybe I will give up on the image. *sigh* wow im just so confused!<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 02:05, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

I can help you make it look less pixel-y. Do you want me to?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     02:38, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yes please! By the way, thanks for snowstorm, it looks great! <font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 03:39, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded fixed it--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:12, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks nighteh! Any comments on the image?<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 14:03, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the shading should be blurred some more: not the shading to the pelt, but within the shading. Also, there's a couple of spots on the back where the shading doesn't touch the lineart. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   01:29, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Fixed shading. Not to be rude or anything but I cant really blur the shading anymore. Sorry!<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 01:49, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Lighten the shading more. It probably wont look as if it needs to be blurred more if you do that. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:11, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Lightened shading. Is it approval ready yet?SnowstormDeputy of LightClan! 03:56, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more and darken the ear pink a bit more--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:46, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Feathertail (Ki) - for approval


Im not proud of this image. ♣Gaelic Irish♣  21:08, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Forgot to mention that there are 4 discussions and 1 being declined. ♣Gaelic Irish♣  21:12, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

I have this image reserved! Someone keeps taking it off but I swear, I do. And no one before me had it, can I please do it? Feathertail is my faveorite charecter. Please?-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 21:20, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Well if you had this image reserved before the user erased it, then I guess. ♣Gaelic Irish♣  22:03, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Artimas, your two weeks were up, I think. So I think Moss has permission to do this image -- Ice Spring is here! 22:12, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Well the two week limit was up but she has a character up for approval so it can't really count. I think the reason your reservations were removed was because of the lack of date. This is something you two will have to settle on your own. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:16, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Your projects have been removed because you don't date them Artimas. We didn't add the date column just for fun... it kinda needs to be filled. Sandwich has the full right to do this image as it was reserved incorrectly. This may seem unfair but... perhaps focus on getting Sandstorm (A) approved first Artimas.If you want to sort something out between you then it needs to go to the talk pages. ✐S aN  dY  22:20, March 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Some comments on the image itself: the nose needs colour and the stripes need to be darkened. Also add some stripes on her belly and chest as there is a big gap. ✐S  aN  dY  17:00, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'll keep the image. Real sorry, Artimas. I'll promise i'll make this image really pretty. ♣Gaelic Irish♣  19:49, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks but i just want to say (not being obsessive here) but the reason there wasn't a date was because I had this reserved before the table was set up. By the time it was set up I had forgotten the date. So, whatever you peeps think. I'll be disappointed if I can't do it but I know you'll do a great job Sandwhich.

Anyway, she needs to be more silver, now she's kinda gray.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 21:22, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

To get her the color she is on her warrior image, you can save her warrior image and use the dropper to get the color on this picture. I don't know if you knew that already.-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 22:40, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to make it more Silver, and add tabby markings moer, and I made the shading more of my style of kits. But I think I made it worse? ♣Gaelic Irish♣  22:48, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the silver is good, she was described as a silver kit several times, but maybe make the tabby marks bigger and have less of them?-- Artimas Hunter Warning! This user is reasonably insane! 22:53, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ummmmm.....it's been like 3 days and nothings happened. Are you still here Sandwich?-- Bramblepath Brightshadow is mine! 16:11, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Artimas calm down. A user has a week before they have to work on an image. Imagewise, the silver still seems a bit dark and the stripes a bit light compared to her other images. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:15, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be mean Ash. I just wanted to know if Sandwich was still working on her.-- Bramblepath Brightshadow is mine! 16:17, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I know you're not trying to be mean. I'm just saying that they still have four days before comments like yours should be made. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:24, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm working on it. I just have to redo the shading then I can put it up. ♣Gaelic Irish♣  18:27, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- okay, I think I failed at this attempt. ♣Gaelic Irish♣  22:04, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good. The only thing is that the stripes shouldn't go stright across the tail. I can't tell in her warrior image but they dont in her apprentice image. Also blur the body stripes a tiny bit. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:09, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Bumblestripe (W) - For Approval


I temporarily withdrew Darkstripe until I could figure out how to make him less blurry. So, here's the newly named Bumblestripe. Yay, first Fading Echoes character for approval! :D Comments? →  Batteh   ←  23:00, March 23, 2010 (UTC)!

This is good. Lighten his pelt color a little. It looks dark compared to his apprentice image. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:05, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

The stripes on his back look too thick compared to his apprentice image. This is really good, though! -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   23:27, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Batteh. He is pretty good... Except the stripes are thick, and then the pelt is 27 gray shades too dark!!! IT'S A CAT-ASTROPHE! (J.K. ;) ) Brightmoon   The Sign of the Moon!  23:29, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Didn't I reserve him?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:45, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Jeez, Brightflight, chill. I can't really make the stripes "thinner"... I tried to make them thin when I made him. I'll lighten the pelt in a moment. →  Batteh   ←  23:57, March 23, 2010 (UTC)!

Reuploaded - Made pelt lighter, attempted to sharpen stripes. →  Batteh   ←  00:07, March 24, 2010 (UTC)!

Theres a darker gray spot around some of the stripes and personally I think his pelt should be just a tiny bit lighter. Nightshine:Blue had it first. I checked the history. Depending on what timezone you're in it might have been shown as the 22nd like it was on mine. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:12, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Any better? →  Batteh   ←  00:26, March 24, 2010 (UTC)!

The color is good but his stripes kinda blobed out. sorry, I cant think of a better adjective. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:28, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to repeat what others have already said, but I think the stripes are the only real issue. On his apprentice pic, they're thick on his spine, but thin out to a point... so I'd recommend that you take the cray color of his pelt, and draw on the stripes to make them thin out, then just blur it really well. Other than that he looks good :)  insaneular    Talk  02:33, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I know mister picky here but the stripes on the tail don't look like the ones on his apprentice version~ <span style="color:brown;font-family:BatangChe;background:goldenrod;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:brown;">Moonpelt ~It’s track season~ 03:31, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Woahh, hang on. The charart is nice but Nightshine had him reserved first! :3 In fact, I had him reserved first, after I woke up at midnight, but then decided it wasn't fair to have two Fading Echoes chararts after some messages on the discussion. I was waiting for someone to actually ask nicely if they could do him, so I could remove his name from my 'list.' =/ Brightfrost  of SunClan...  07:41, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

There needs to be a lot more stripes. His apprentice image has stripes that are thin and lots in numbers but the ones here are thicker and there are only a few. ;) Fawnstorm  The Dark Forest are rising...  10:14, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well.. Yeah... but still. The stripes need to be thin, and large in number. Brightmoon  The Sign of the Moon!  20:00, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - I completely redid him. I know the haunch stripes look kind of weird, but I don't really know what to do about them... suggestions? →  Batteh   ←  23:15, March 24, 2010 (UTC)!

We still need to discuss who is going to do this charart!--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     23:19, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Work it out between the two of you if you're so concerned, Nightshine. Just try and keep it civil... I'm getting sick of all these comments 'didn't I reserve this first?' and 'so-and-so had this reserved!' Almost isn't worth having the current projects table. -.- ...sometimes I wish the whole thing would just disappear. Anyways, just try and work it out between the two of you, please. -- Bramble 03:02, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I thought we'd worked it out, but I guess not. Comments on the image? →  Batteh   ←  11:18, March 25, 2010 (UTC)!

The midriff stripe is really big. Can you sort it out? Didn't Nightshine ask Frosty if she could do it (sorry Barmble XD)? Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  16:41, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

The middle stripe goes all the way across, making it look strange. If you could also lighten the black on the stripes, that would be great, because they blend in with the lineart too well. I'm not going to interfere with the decision of who keeps this; it's up to you two, if you want to go through the effort. Bramble 21:16, March 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * The stripes also seem a tad sharp to me as well. Blur the edges of them some more.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:13, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Sorry he took so long. He looks worse now, in my opinion. I couldn't really lighten the stripes, and I couldn't blur the stripes without making them look too blurred. You people need to teach me how you make your tabby stripes look so smooth. →  Batteh   ←  21:16, March 29, 2010 (UTC)!

It looks a little pixly. Blur the stripes some more, especially the ones on his back. If you can't lighten the stripes, set the dodge tool to highlights, and the strength to 10-15. Then it should lighten a lot better. (Ignore this if you know it already) Rain  whisker  00:02, March 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * The highlight on his chest needs to be blurred as well.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:43, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderfur (E) Up for Approval
OMG this is appsalutly terrible anyways this was originly longtail but i with drew him and put this up this was a very fast char art! and does any one know how to shade? plz tell me!LionClaw132 01:10, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I know he was elder age but was he ever seen as an elder? For shading if you use pixlr use the burn tool. It looks like a hand. Also the lineart is too thick. Haikage Ash's Talk 01:14, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Ash is right. Try using a tutorial to help--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:17, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

It looks as if you saved it over the elder blank. Please create a new file for this--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:19, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

ok i did what you said and here it is!(btw dont say anything about the eyes i personaly love them!LionClaw132 01:45, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I took it out of the thumbnail and frame. You don't need a new section every time.--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     01:54, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

ok thnx but any thing else about i or is it fit enough to go on Cinderfur's page as a pixle?LionClaw132 01:56, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Not yet. Some of the lineart is weird. You need to add shading and fix the eye--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     02:03, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

When I tried making this small again it turned into the elder lineart. Don't use that file to color save it and rename the file as your own--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     02:04, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

There is no color~ NOWHERE Cinderfur is gray~ <span style="color:brown;font-family:BatangChe;background:goldenrod;border:2px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:brown;">Moonpelt ~It’s track season~ 02:29, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

shes right~NOWHERE!LionClaw132 02:36, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Did you look at the tutorials? I took it out of thumbnail and frame again--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     03:00, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

He was never seen as an elder so this will have to be declined. Sorry--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     03:04, March 25, 2010

yes he was look at hes page and it says he was a elder!(into the wild!)

Okay. You can keep this then. You need to re-do his image so the lineart is the right size.

Here: Start over with that--  N i g h t s h i n e      Ü     03:13, March 25, 2010 (UTC

ok fineLionClaw132 03:20, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

ok there you go!LionClaw132 15:22, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

The background is black, it needs to be transparent. There are some white pixels on his paws, his eyes need to be colored in, he needs ear pink, and there's no shading Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:46, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I can make his background transparent if you want me too. -- Ice Spring is here! 23:12, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

That's so nice, Ice! (lol, that rymes) But does the image look squashed? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 03:02, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yea, it does look a bit squished. Can you cut out some of the extre space around the image, It's kinda big. Haikage Ash's Talk 02:40, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

No, you need to start over using the one Nightshine gave you as yours is only 120px not full size thus making it distorted in both size and shape. ✐S aN  dY  08:43, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on him or he will be declined Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:55, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Whitestorm(Ki)- For Approval
Not much to say about this ... comments? ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  20:58, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

He looks a bit too gray to me, can you lighten him? insaneular   Talk  20:59, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made his pelt brighter. ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  21:35, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading around his head and neck--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     19:36, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''(I don't think the changes are showing) ɆƆH  ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  20:46, March 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wait a couple of hours before deciding whether the changes are showing or not if there's not much difference and it's hard to tell, but if there's a significant change that was made and it's not showing, then upload under a new file and put the delete tag on the old one. From what I can see right now, darken the shading a little bit more, but then lighten the entire image. Right now it looks light gray, but it needs to be a white cat, so lighten it some. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   13:30, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Lightened the pelt and darkened the shading. ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  20:30, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Look at Whitestorm's deputy picture. Darken the ears a bit, and the shading just a little bit more. It's okay that it's more white since this is Whitestorm when he is getting old. Other than that, he just looks so cute and perfect! I ♥ this! Echostar 21:49, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Darkened the ears and darkened the shading as well. Any more comments? ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  22:58, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

CBA? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:54, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Stonestream(A) -For Approval
Yet another gray shorthaired cat. Comments? Haikage Ash's Talk 22:08, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't see the earpink too well. It looks grayish. ɆƆH ØĦƏ  @ƦƮ  22:18, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

I will admit that it looks a tad grayish but I can see it well on my computer. is anyone else having trouble seeing it? Haikage Ash's Talk 01:41, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink on both his elder and warrior image are more of a pinky color. I would change it Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 01:49, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I still don't think it was that bad but I changed it anyways. Comments? Haikage Ash's Talk 17:00, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks kind of pinkish-gray right now, make it more of a red color. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   13:31, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

None of his chararts have a redish earpink. This color is close to the color used in his warrior image. Haikage Ash's Talk 19:26, March 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know that it's close to that, but sometimes the ear pink on the other images isn't the best ear pink color for an image of another rank, because of various shading styles, so I think that you should go ahead and change the ear pink...maybe make it the same color as on his elder image? -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   02:04, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

No matter what color I make it it will always look grayish because of the blurring and size of the ear. I'm not trying to start anything but I really don't see a problem with the color I used.What does everyone else think? Haikage Ash's Talk 19:39, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Snapper (R) - For Approval
Probably my worst charart ever. -- Rain whisker  14:50, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think (By what I can see) that you blurred all the patches exept the white on the tail could you blur that??? Otherwise nice job!!! , <span style="color:red;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:red;">Mo <span style="color:orange;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:orange;">on <span style="color:yelow;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:yellow;">pe <span style="color:green;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:green;">lt <span style="color:blue;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:blue;">17 <span style="color:purple;font-family:Tempus Sans ITC;background:black;border:1px solid; -moz-border-raiuds: 1em; color:purple;">86  15:05, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

This looks really awesome! Darken and blur the ear pink some more. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   16:19, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I love this, Rain! Just do what icy said, and blur the white on the tail, and the end of it near his neck. Ice Spring is here! 01:34, March28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the patches more and blur the ear pink. Plus it's really good! Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  17:25, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for all the nice comments! What else? Rain whisker  18:28, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the forehead scars a teensy bit--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:44, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Raggedstar (D) - For Approval
This is Raggedpelt, one of my favorite warriors, EVER! I think I did... ok. Bra mble  berry!  16:23, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Does this mean that you're withdrawing Boulder? Imagewise the hind foot closest to us needs to be colored. Haikage Ash's Talk 16:28, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

He needs a ripped ear--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     19:32, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Considering you've expressed the want to withdraw Boulder and do this image, I'll let this stay up and take over your Boulder image myself, because there are very minor changes needed and it can be approved. Although, you shouldn't waste your work. You're throwing away a perfectly good image just because you want to do another. -- Bramble 22:22, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble's right about that, silver. Anyway, for the image, I know that his leader image has green eyes, but in "Bluestar's Prophecy", it said he had yellow. Should this be changed now, or do we have to wait for the next tweak week? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:32, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Eye colour. If you can cite it then tell me and I'll quickly change the leader image. It won't take two minutes. ✐S aN  dY  08:51, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Wow! Sandy, you're awake? Its 4:55am here, I'm wide awake! Bra mble  berry!  08:56, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading some more--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     18:27, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Add some shading to the back ear, and darken the shading on the chest and belly just a little bit. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   13:36, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, about the citation. On page 163 of "Bluestar's Prophecy", it says here - A dark tabby tom, his yellow eyes blazing, was staring at Stormtail from among the ShadowClan warriors. It doesn't say that it was Raggedpelt, and over on page 166, it says - ''"Raggedpelt will take his place," Cedarstar went on. A dark brown warrior stalked from the crowd of ShadowClan cats into a pool of moonlight below the rock.'' Now, I know that it's possible those were two totally different cats, but I really think they were both Raggedpelt. I also looked in the allegiances, Raggedpelt is the only dark brown tabby in ShadowClan. (Featherstorm is brown tabby, but she's a queen. And Lizardfang is light brown tabby, but he's an elder) So, what do you guys think? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:53, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Heavystep(W)-for approval
i dont think any of my charcats are very good anymore...how's this? Pebble2Pineow 22:13, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is good or bad news but its his other leg that is deformed. Haikage Ash's Talk 22:16, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded i hope its this one Pebble2Pineow 22:47, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

Layer a regular warrior blank over this; his leg wouldn't have been deformed while he was performing warrior duties, or at least it wasn't troubling him. Also, please put a link in your signature instead of just the text. I fixed the one above for you. -- Bramble 23:10, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

reuploaded how's this?Pebble2Pineow 02:07, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

The lineart for the feet looks a little funny. Can you fix it? I can if you don't want to--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     05:34, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

The shading looks a little... scratchy, as if the sharpen tool has been used in places. Run the blur tool over it a few times and also blend the ear pink. ✐S aN  dY  08:55, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

how's this?Pebble2Pineow 16:05, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I believe while you shaded you went outside the lines as you can see white-gray streaks coming out near his tail. Erase these and the easiest way is to add a white background again to the image. Once done just make it transparent again.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:43, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be blurred and the line art around his hind leg still looks odd. It's too square. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:41, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

im not rlly sure how im goin to get the leg good nightshine? can you help me?Pebble2Pineow 16:01, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it for you :)--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     03:46, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Brokenstar (A) - For Approval

 * I know how I keep disappearing so much and wow I must admit, you guys have done a great job of getting so many images up I almost couldn't find any to do. However I did :D This guy was shown to us as an apprentice during Bluestar's Prophecy...well he was mentioned, remember the apprentice who got into a fight at a Gathering ;) ? So here's an image that I've done. I looked at his leader one for reference on his colors so I think I have him downpacked. Comments anyonez?-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  00:02, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights and darken the shading. This is good. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:08, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back, Shimmer, good to see you. :) I think the three most obvious highlights, on the face, shoulder and haunch shouldn't be there; they look awkward. I think the image would look just fine without them. Ash is also right about adding some more shading, and the ear pink: make that a little bit more visible. -- Bramble 00:16, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hiya, Shimmer, welcome back:D *hugglez* Bramble and Ash have covered most of it, but the ear pink needs to be a bit bigger as well. This looks awesome, otherwise:) -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  00:22, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * UPDATED I couldn't get rid of the highlights...afraid I lost that touch of taking them away and keep on editing. But I blended them in more and made the ear pink more visible.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:09, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is lovely, Shimmer. Welcome back by the way. :) Just blur the highlights more, and the stripes need more blending. Ice Spring is here! 01:33, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Done and done :)-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:48, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

His tail doesn't really look right. On his deputy, rogue, and leader image, his tail bends up -

But on this image, it just looks like there's a tiny bend in the middle of the tail. Bring the tip of the tail up higher Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 05:26, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yo Shimmerpool! Welcome back. :) There's a little bit of blurred lineart on the muzzle, and darken the shading on the tail a little bit. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   16:38, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Updated Is the tail better?-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  17:55, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Try doing the charart again with this blank I made with the tail up. ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World... 07:46, March 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Done....-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:38, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ok...changes aren't showing >.< but when you look under the add image you see the new version until you click it.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:41, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

The changes are showing now. The highlights still look kind of messy, so either darken them just a tad bit, or blur them some more. Also, it looks like some of the lineart on one of the hind paws got erased, and there's some jagged lineart on the tail. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   02:00, March 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't tell Ice as they still aren't showing up for me :( I noticed that when I got that blank about the legs and tried readding some of it. Once it shows up for me I'll see it more...Edit Lets try again...under new upload I saw the very old version..so I'm not sure what you guys are seing but I fixed what you said on the version I have on my computer.-- ♪Shimmer pool♫  01:06, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Crowfeather (Ki)- For Approval
Here's Crowfeather as a kit (As appeared in A Clan In Need)! I kinda copied my old failed Tadpole and copied the ear color from his warrior picture. Comments? (There are a lot of discussions on here! Poppystorm did not put a reservation on the reservation list so I took it! Do not take down!)-- ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World...04:54, March 28, 2010 (UTC)D

Make his eyes a darker blue and darken the shading--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     05:12, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded- ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World...05:24, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink some more and darken the nose colour--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     05:29, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World...05:34, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur shading some more and if possible lighten the highlights a bit. Add shading under the chin--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     05:36, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded Tried to lighten the highlights, but my computer won't let me. ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World...05:43, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. This is really good! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 09:38, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink looks really light and sort of a grayish-pink color. Make it more of a red color. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   13:37, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to get on the cpmputer as soon as I can. Don't decline if I'm not on Sunday. ☮Quail will rescue Haiti!☮ <font color="Maroon">We are the World... 15:18, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Mitzi (KP) - For Approval
Okay, I have some explaining to do... I know she's described as a tortoiseshell in her article, yet this image has gray patches on it instead of what is usually black. But, in A Clan in Need she has no black on her body like other tortoiseshells shown in the mangas. Just white, a pale gray (which is probably orange), and a darker gray. So, I thought she may be a gray tortoiseshell ( http://www.cats-meow.org/images/AZ13angie.jpg). But, if you guys disagree, I'll make the gray areas black. Also, there are four discussions, so this isn't over the image limit. -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  14:48, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oops, forgot to add shading to the collar. -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  14:53, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

It looks amazing how it is now! -- Nighty Meh kitteh is hoplessley confused... 15:00, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the shading on her gray and orange fur a bit. Haikage Ash's Talk 17:02, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

It's called a dilute tortoiseshell, I have one ^^. But, if you go that route she needs stripes. Dark hallows 17:09, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Darkened shading and added stipes. -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  17:52, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the stripes just a little bit. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   22:15, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Darkened stripes. -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  19:17, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

The tabby markings on her back in the ginger area could do with some blurring. :) Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  19:57, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Blurred stripes. -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  19:07, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

The ginger on her back looks more yellowish than ginger, could you darken it maybe? Or desaturate and then darken? Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:44, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Darkened ginger patch. -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  19:08, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

This looks awesome! Can you maybe add another ginger patch on the tail or front leg?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:42, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Dilute tortoiseshells have cream, not ginger. Other than that, it looks great! -- Gοlδεnpαω Appare! 05:29, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Dawncloud (W) - For Approval
This is Dawncloud as a warrior. Comments? isнιηε 19:04, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading and make the stripes thinner--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     19:16, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Better? isнιηε 19:31, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''I added stripes & blurred the shading. I was bored. <font color="cyan" style="background:Black">☯Sgt. Pepper's☯ Lonely Hearts Club Band 20:26, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thicken the shading, and make the ear pink more of a reddish color. There's also a gray spot above the tail-tip. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   13:38, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Better? <font color="cyan" style="background:Black">☯Sgt. Pepper's☯ Lonely Hearts Club Band 13:57, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. :) Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  19:57, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Are the changes showing? <font color="cyan" style="background:Black">☯Sgt. Pepper's☯ Lonely Hearts Club Band 23:29, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink some. Haikage Ash's Talk 23:32, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Comments? <font color="cyan" style="background:Black">☯Sgt. Pepper's☯ Lonely Hearts Club Band 00:02, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Make the stripes on her head a bit longer. Do you think you could add some highlight?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:41, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Everytime I tried to add hightlights, it looked terrible -.- <font color="cyan" style="background:Black">☯Sgt. Pepper's☯ Lonely Hearts Club Band 11:27, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thrushpelt (W) Up for Approval
Hey, this is my first charart (after my miserable Snowtuft -_- sorry insane), so constructments? Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  21:32, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

This is good for a first timer! But the pelt color is really dark. Try to make it more like her medicine cat image:

Also, blur the ear pink a little more.<font color="#33FF00">Snowstorm! 21:58, March 28, 2010 (UTC)



Reuploaded. I lightened the pelt, and blurred that earpink. Anymore comments? Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  23:19, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

The pelt still needs to b lightened a lot more Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 23:21, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Crud it! I uploaded the wrong cat LOL FAIL Be done in a min ;D Brightmoon   Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  23:53, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Epic fail on my part. Any more comments? Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  23:57, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading some more. <font color="cyan" style="background:Black">☯Sgt. Pepper's☯ Lonely Hearts Club Band 00:42, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred shading. Any more comments? Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  19:22, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

The back paw on her med cat image is brown and the flecks need to be blurred more. Haikage Ash's Talk 19:36, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Did paw thing and blurred flecks till they looked pretty much gray. LOL! Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  20:03, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Darken her eye color a bit? <font color="cyan" style="background:Black">☯Sgt. Pepper's☯ Lonely Hearts Club Band 16:25, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Darkened eye thing. Any more comments? Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  19:02, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

The earpink needs blurring and flecks need tons of blurring. -- Moonflight Come The Dark Side. We Have Catnip... 21:06, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Blurred. Till. I. Died. Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  23:20, March 30, 2010 (UTC).

The brown paw is gone now. Haikage Ash's Talk 00:04, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Brown pawed. Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  22:23, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bit, mainly on her back legs <font color="cyan" style="background:Black">☯Sgt. Pepper's☯ Lonely Hearts Club Band 23:14, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Shade blurred. Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  00:11, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Can you run the burn tool over it to make it darker?--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:40, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

'''Reuploaded. '''Darking shaded. (Notice how I have weird uploaded phrases.) Flowerflight   April Showers bring Mayflowers, and Mayflowers bring Pilgrims!  12:42, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Crookedstar (W) - For Approval
Okay, Insane said I had permission to use this blank, so I did. I thought of a challenging cat to do, and he came into my mind. :) Construments? Ice Spring is here! 23:37, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

nice job Iceh :D but i think you could just blur/smudge the shadin a bit more and itll be good anyways nice jobPebble2Pineow 23:43, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Ice Spring is here! 23:50, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

He looks good, but check your placement of the cream patches. His back paws aren't cream, only his front paws. And also, add the little cream splotch on his foreleg. insaneular   Talk  00:59, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Are the changes showing? Ice Spring is here! 01:23, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

No, my computer isn't seeing them. <font color="cyan" style="background:Black">☯Sgt. Pepper's☯ Lonely Hearts Club Band 01:45, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

I clicked on the image, and it shows the changed in the thumbnail, but not on the actual image. I normally give a few hours to notice the change, but it's already been quite some time, so upload the new version under a new file name and put the delete tag on the old one. -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   13:43, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Ice Spring is here! 21:12, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hurhur, the changes really showed up! :D I can't blur the shading anymore, *sigh* Ice Spring is here! 21:29, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Can you blur the tail shading? Also make the ear pink more defined--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     21:31, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

No, I can't blur the tail shading. I really should get a copy of GIMP then download it....Reuploaded. Ice Spring is here! 21:35, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

The midriff shading needs blending too. And some of the stripes need to be extended further into the body. ✐S aN  dY  21:36, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The upload log doesn't like me... Ice Spring is here! 02:20, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Darken ear pink more.--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:38, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Willowpelt (Ki) - For Approval
I tried a new shading style, and I don't think that it worked...I'll probably end up redoing the image with my usual shading style, but I figured it couldn't hurt to see what everyone else thought of my epic fail. :) I tried the shading style like on my tutorials, but the shading was either too light or too dark because of the color of the pelt, which I used the colordropper tool to get from the warrior version, so I had to go with this style. Comments and suggestions? -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   02:31, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

This isn't bad at all! Try darkening the shading a teensy bit and shorten the left ear pink a bit--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     02:35, March 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Willowpelt's left ear, or our left ear (her right ear)? -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   11:36, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Her right ear (our left)--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:38, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Littlecloud (W) - For Approval
Well, here he is! Comments? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  15:23, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Add a couple of stripes to the head, and fill in the eye. :) -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   15:40, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Can you believe I didn't colour his eye? Well, added stripes and filled in eye. Anything else? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  15:50, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the chest and head. Add stripes to the ear closest to us.-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  16:11, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred the chest and head. Ears are now stripey. Anything else? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  17:28, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think he should have a stripe on his neck/cheek area. It looks a little blank. <font face="Papyrus" color="#ffcc33">Raven <font face="Papyrus" color="#ff3366">Randomness!  20:36, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Robinwing (TC) (W)-- For Approval
Here is Robinwing from ThunderClan. (This is the 34th post. there are 2 conversations) Comments?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  16:07, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading some more. :) Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  17:29, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Add shading on the ear and legs that aren't facing us. If there is some there darken it. Haikage Ash's Talk 19:45, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are too small. Make them wider, and blur them Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 21:58, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Did all the stuff above, now what else?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  13:08, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights are still kinda small. Spread them out a bit and blur them as well as the shading if you can. Haikage Ash's Talk 20:05, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Enlarged highlights and blurred shading. What else?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  21:22, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the ear pink and darken the shading some more--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     21:25, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Blurred earpink and darkened shading. Anything else?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  23:05, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe make the ginger part a bit bigger? It seems a bit small. -- Gοlδεnpαω Appare! 23:05, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Made ginger bigger. What else shall I change?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  23:45, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

The highlights need alot of shading. Snowstorm!

How do I do that?-- Snowflight  1  Thank StarClan Newleaf is here!  11:44, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Explanation
APRIL FOOL!

No, this was never a serious proposition. Before you kick in your computer screen trying to get me, just read below, alright? :)

Why

I wanted to make a point to the members of this Project that the wiki isn’t all about art. I wanted to sort out the users that can make mature decisions when faced with this sort of situation and the ones that flip out because they care nothing for this place and only want to do art; they throw a tantrum and miss the point, threatening to leave the wiki. In my opinion, if you were that user, you might as well; if all you care about is coloring, and do not contribute at all to the main namespace, you are only concerned with your entertainment, not helping the main cause.

Planning

The idea originated one day back in February on the IRC, when Sandy, Insane, Icestorm and myself were on. At first, we thought it would be a very fast and funny joke, but then it got to be about proving a point to all of you, as explained above. We planned the speeches in a way that would be instructing to the members here, while Ice’s was helping along that the Project was actually closing.

Thoughts

I am not hurt at all. :) It was wonderful to see such good thoughts on the forum combatting the freak outs of some of the different users. I was pleasantly surprised to see many of you get over your initial disappointment and promise to work harder. I thank all of you who have promised to work hard and not become angry and frantic at me. Also, thank you to those you stuck up for me and supported me, not believing I would be capable of doing a cruel joke like this. You have no idea how awful I felt that I was going through with this when I saw these words, but again, I did it to hopefully make a point. You can always trust me, Insane and Sandy – except on April Fools’. :)

Expectations

I do not expect the points in my original speech to be ignored now that the Project is back. The other Projects still need to be worked on, and there is still way too much focus on just images. Remember that this is only part of the wiki, not the point of it. If these issues continue, hopefully nothing as drastic as the Project actually closing will happen, but I will work to resolve and completely abolish them.

Insults

You may leave any choice words (abstain from cussing, please) below for me. :) I understand you may need to vent feelings. Otherwise, on with the Project. Thank you, Bramble  21:29, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Hahha, april fools everyone. :D Ice Spring is here! 21:34, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thank StarClan! But, of course, that doesn't mean my promise of working harder will be brocken. Thanks for opening my eyes to it, Bramble:) -- Ŧ∆ķ მ♰§  ƱოΣ  21:38, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay guys, I know this might seem mean to you, but it started as a light hearted joke but did also have a point, as Bramble said. But if you still want to throw some rotten tomatoes, aim for me- I'm sure Bramble's had plenty already and I was the one who came up with the evil plan XD While it was not meant to be mean, as Bramble said, we still had legitimate concerns, though we would not take such drastic and sudden action to enforce them. I apologize to people who were very shocked and thought it was real, but hopefully you have learned something :) I'd also like to thank the people who took it well and were ready to accept the change.  insaneular    Talk  21:41, April 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have nothing to add to what Bramble and Insane have said except that you should feel free to direct some of the blame/insults at me seeing as one of the truths in this was that they didn't do it alone ^_^ ✐S  aN  dY  21:43, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble I love you! You really opened my eyes. I'm so sorry for everything I said! Please forgive me! Snowstorm! Too lazy to log in =)

Ugh, this the second time I've fallen for one today. -- Gοlδεnpαω Appare! 22:00, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

But still, users are just gonna go back to their ways in about 2 weeks or so. I thought it might've been good that PCA was closing, only because most users on here (mainly new) only come here for PCA. Shame. Anyway, I'm still holding by my promise. ♣Gaelic Irish♣  22:11, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Man, you had me Bramble. That was hilarious! Oh well, I'm going to work harder on characters and world and other pages. Brightmoon  Night Whispers,  and Sign of the Moon!  22:33, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

That was awesome.

I am proud to say that I didn't fall for any jokes today, thank Starclan, but I did pull a few of my own. ;-)

Once I can figure out Pixlr a little better, I might start doing some characters myself. For now though, I just fix any typos or anything I see while using the wiki for info. <font color="#0000ff" style= "backround:red;">Leopardspot <font color="#0000FF" style="background:red;"> Where's my Fireclaw? 23:46, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Bramble you are a crazy person!!!--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     00:09, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hawktalon said it well; thank StarClan! I still plan on contributing to all three other Projects, though. *sighs in relief* I'm really glad that PCA isn't closing. I totally fell for that one, well played. :) -- I c y -  c h a n   s a y s   h e  l l  o !   00:22, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I knew it. >:D Got me for a while, though! Nicely done...  ♥ C row  01:28, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'm so gullible lol. <font face="Papyrus" color="#ffcc33">Raven <font face="Papyrus" color="#ff3366">Randomness!  01:29, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I thought this was serious but when Nighty said it was a joke, I believed her. But it did seem very un-Bramb-lish. If you get that. Also, I think it was a good moral as well. Although it kinda shocked me that so many people would have left if the PCA was closing. Gotta go work on Sandstorm now, bye. ^^ -- Bramblepath Brightshadow is mine! 02:04, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

You fooled me there. Seriously. And I have to say, I'm very hard to fool. Perseus | Perseus ,  Thou art not the hero | Thou art not the hero  03:57, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I knew it was a joke from the start, but after it all started getting really serious, I started to think that it wasn't a joke. I'm so relieved now! And yes, I think this taught us a wonderful lesson, and the wiki will definately better after this! Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:50, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Lol! I kept on saying to Fawny that it might be a joke. I knew we would have had more warning than that. i believed it was real until I saw Nighteh's comment, and then I was relieved. I had a feeling it might be a test and that we were going to get a second chance (see my message ;D) When I figured it was a test on us I put up that petition to show Bramble that we are loyal to PCA! Oh yeah! ☼ Misty ☼ Here comes the summer...  08:32, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I was one of the few who wasn't fooled... ;) However, I must say that a community like this works best if everyone is allowed to do what he/she prefers and is best at. Asking them to do other stuff might not help the wiki in the long run, for example if they are not skilled at it. Furthermore, let's not fear that parts of the wiki are/will be neglected - many people contribute to the projects even if they are not project members (e.g. I edit/create almost exclusively World articles, even though I am not a member). Helixtalk 09:07, April 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * That is a valid point Helix, but it is important that the focus is put back on WWiki as a whole, not just as an art project. We're not asking people to dedicate as much time to the other projects as they do here, as you're right in saying that everyone has choices and preferences, we just want people to consider what else they can do to help on the wiki besides making art and chatting on talk pages. No user is skilled at something the first time they try it (not even our 3 admins are perfect at everything), but everyone can at least try and learn some new skills, even if it's just learning how to cite soures, use the charcat template, edit a table or even just spelling and grammar. The other projects are far from neglected by many, but it is true to say that for a lot of users, PCA has taken over the wiki somewhat and it is important we don't lose our perspective. Everyone's work is appreciated whether they are project members or not, but if everyone (I plan to do this myself) focuses a little less on PCA and tries maybe just one new thing then I believe that can and will benefit the wiki. ✐Sa  NdY  10:05, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thats why I started that promise thing. I feel like such an idiot. *Blushes* Almost makes me want to leave PCA, but I won't. i am trying to help the other Projects but it quite hard. :) We all have been neglecting the true meaning of this wiki, and I guess temproialry shutting the PCA made us sit up. So does everyone agree to joining a new project? Fawnstorm  The Dark Forest are rising...  10:12, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Oh No! I never knew admins could play a cruel trick! :) Cl  a  ra  10:19, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Oh darn it. I totally fell for that one. I couldn't believe the number of people who said they would quit if that was true. I wasn't quite that annoyed! :) It was a joke with a serious point behind it.86.53.39.5 12:25, April 2, 2010 (UTC)Silverstream12

Just wanna say/re-iterate that our goal was never to get people to ignore or quit PCA. We just want more focus on the other parts of the wiki, which does not mean you have to shun the parts that you love. I hate to use myself as an example, but when I was made Deputy of PC, I quit PCA, thinking it would take up too much of my time... but after being in PC for a while I realized I could do both if I just didn't waste too much time :) Now I work at all four projects (though I admit I should do more for Books and World) and not only does it show that it's possible, I also think it's really awesome to see the wiki from all the different perspectives. And as Helix said, you don't even have to join another project to contribute if you don't want to, but if you feel devoted to a certain aspect of the wiki they certainly help you get to know what's needed in a a better way.  insaneular    Talk  11:52, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

GRR! Evil! XD I'm SOO glad this was a joke! I should have known! I will NEVER be mad at anyone for a joke, unless it actually hurts someone. Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  12:45, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

UM CAN I JOIN?
can i join plz ?? BlAcKsTaR the forest needs me 01:32, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderheart (A) - For Approval
Wow...this turned out better than I expected. Comments?--<font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Shaf <font color="Navy" style="background:Silver">Girl  01:53, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Looks great! Thicken the shading a bit and blur. Make the ear pink a tad bigger and a bit darker--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     02:31, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Graystripe (Lo) For Approval
K I know there is a lot of Graystripe fans out there so here is his Loner image!!!...!!! LOL So, Constructments??? !(THANKS FOR REOPENING)! Moon pelt   03:54, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

His front side looks too dark. Try darkening the highlights a bit. Make the back stripe thinner and a bit lighter. Also darken the ear pink and blur the belly shading a tad--  N i g h t s h i n e     Ü     04:11, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a bit more red, too. Nightfall Silverpelt looks beautiful! 06:52, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripe on his back and darken the Ear PInk (See Night's comment). Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  11:20, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Patchpelt (K) - For Approval
Comments? -- Gοlδεnpαω Appare! 07:31, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good! Make the shading on the patch on his face less obvious, and maybe make the Ear Pink on the black ear look a bit more like the white ear pink. Also make the white ear Ear Pink a bit less pale. Once again- GREAT! Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  11:19, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Brook Where Small Fish Swim-For Approval
I was soo scared by the April fools joke! And for Brook, she and Stormfur were loners when they traveled to the lake, and were instant loners when Leopardstar kicked them out.-- ≈៛₪¥ -§₰₪₥≈  10:44, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

This is really good, I like the tabby pettern. Blur the shading and make the Ear Pink less 'baby pink', if you see what I mean? Also add a few stripes to her paws. Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  11:17, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

PLEASE CAN I JOIN?
can i join? I helped make the petition and i would be vry loyal 2. PROMISE! <font color="#3300CC" face="Tempus Sans ITC" style="background:aqua">Zoe27 11:26, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'll add you in. Can you lay off the caps though please? It could be seen as shouting and can be offensive to some users. Welcome to the Project. ✐Sa NdY  11:30, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Brairlight
To make Brairlight's Charart, shall I use:

a. Warrior Image

b. Elder Image

c. Warrior Deformed Image

d. Elder Defromed Image

? I am confused about waht poeple think I should do. Fawnstorm The Dark Forest are rising...  12:18, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Blanks?
I don't know whether this affects everyone or it's just my computer but when I try to get a blank, it doesn't come up. I can't get any blanks at all. Is this affecting everyone? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  13:03, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

No.. it's everyone. I'm not sure how to fix it but it's because of the new galleries. Bramble: Perhaps we could take them out of the gallery? ✐Sa NdY  13:05, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

How About searching the image? Hedgehogflight Hedgehogs are flying! 13:08, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think I found a way, but even then I'm not too sure. I went to Sandstorm's page and clicked her image. I copied the link to pixlr and I filled it all in white. If we can't find a solution, I can fix it. It's a dodgy way but if we can't get blanks, how can we do charart? Birchy I am a warrior at heart...  13:14, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Maple, that is a good way, but longwinded. Birchy: No need to do all that. We still have the images, just can't get them to open from the main Project page. I can open them by rightclicking and selecting, open in new tab. I think we just need to remove the gallery though, so maybe wait on Bramble's response. ✐Sa NdY  13:18, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Select? I can't open them and I've tried many ways. =/ Birchy  I am a warrior at heart...  13:25, April 2, 2010 (UTC)