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Idea for quotes
I saw this template on another wiki and thought it looked really cool. We can change the colour of it for whichever Clan the character is in, or if they are a rogue, kittypet, etc.

I'm still not quite sure how to get the colour to work. I have a feeling it will only work once it's an actual template. The way I think would be good for the quotes to be on articles is to have them scattered over a few places. For example, on Firestar's page we could have an important quote at the top of the article, then a quote from The Darkest Hour somewhere in that section. Comments?-- 06:51, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ohh! Sounds like a good idea. Reminds me of Avatar Wiki. Anyways, yes, I think we should create and use this template. 12:39, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I kind of like the idea for the colors, but I'm not so sure about scattering the quotes all over the article. I think it would work better if they were in one spot. 14:05, August 29, 2010 (UTC) It sounds like a good idea. Shadeflower Warrior of StarClan 14:09, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah... scattering the quotes might seem cool, but it would take ages to set up and would make them harder to add/remove/go over. I'm not sure about the template though.. it looks nice, but it looks as if it is really meant for the quotes to not be together, I don't think it'd look very good with them all together... and I'd really rather not scatter them =/ 12:44, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly, Insane. It would look wierd with all of them together, but it would take a lot of time to set up. 21:42, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

What about, a important quote on top of the article with the template, and then the rest of the quotes just...normal? 22:02, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Oooohhh.. excellent idea Icestorm! :D We could have the best quote that the article has at the top, kind of like an introduction to the article. I support that idea. Also, if we are going to use that template, shouldn't we add it to the list of templates? Sorry, I'm not real good with templates, so I hope you understand what I'm saying. :P 22:39, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. :) And yes, we should. 19:03, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah Ice, that's a good idea.-- 23:11, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! 14:50, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I like Icestorm's idea too. But I also like the whole color thing too. -- Honeyrose34 21:47, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not so sure about the color thing. Most people wouldn't know what color represented what. 21:51, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

For the colour thing, it would be like: ThunderClan: Orange ShadowClan: Black RiverClan: Blue WindClan: Yellow SkyClan: Gray Rogues: Red Tribe: Green Kittypet: Pink Ancient: Crimson Loner: Purple

People don't need to know that the colours represent the Clan they are in. Maybe we could find a way to have a small Clan symbol in the corner of each.-- 22:02, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, but what about SkyClan, BloodClan, rouges, loners, kittypets, ancients, tribe cats? I mean there are a lot of different groups. I think it would be easier not to color-code it. 22:27, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I've added onto it. BloodClan are just rogues, right? I hope I got them all-- 05:52, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I dunno... it all seems a little complicated. I don't see anything wrong with the quotes as we have them now, personally. 11:55, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Why do we need colour-coding for quotes? I could imagine colour-coding for the charcat template for instance (not that I'm suggesting it), but for quotes it does not provide any extra info... 16:52, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I like the idea, but not the colour coding. 17:05, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly, I do not think we should use the colors, it wouldn't make any sense. 20:44, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I just think using the colours would be good because then they aren't just plain and white. And Helix, that might be a good idea, adding different colours to the charcat templates.-- 01:44, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Whitestorm. -- 01:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Nightshine. Colors of course are not required, but I think it would add a special touch to the page. We would then make the Charcat the same color perhaps? 17:02, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Will these boxes for the quotes be used at all?-- 06:22, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, hold on. I do not know where Insane is but I hope she will get on soon. Also, it looks the majority of people have voted against color-coding. 12:24, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

But I think we should give them some colour, so they aren't plain white.-- 17:19, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I really don't see a reason why we can't color them. Am I missing something? 13:10, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Why can't we just color code them with the Wiki's color-scheme? -- 21:42, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

My initial idea was t have each cat have a colour for their current affiliation. Not all users will know exactly the reason for the colouring, but it will also make it look nicer.-- 21:58, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I like that idea. I don't see why we can't do that. Yes it'll be alot of work, but there are alot of us. 23:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry Nightshine, I don't want to see diplomatic, but it seems that it is you and Moonflight against the rest of us for color-coding. 21:19, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

If you really feel that way, we don't have to add color. I just think it would look better that way. If you think differently, that's quite alright. I won't change my opinion, but I'll be fine with whatever happens. :) 21:30, September 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * As for what happens, it looks like colors won't be added. 21:32, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

So how would you like to colour it?-- 02:26, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Well, my suggestion would be to just make them all one color, but which color it really doesn't matter for me. 20:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I personally would't like anything that is too vibrant, maybe a light green or pink? -- 20:55, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I really don't see anything wrong with colour coding it by allegiance.-- 16:33, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Pale colors would definitely be better. Having, say, bright red would be eye-hurting. i.e. Compare this: To this: -- 17:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

We don't really need a color that stands out or anything, so how about we just use the same color as the Charcat? Makes sense to me. 17:21, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

By pale I meant like a very faint trace of color, but that is most likely because I do not like colors, I like things simple. xD -- 17:53, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well, we could use the pale blue of the Charcat, I think it would make sense so we didn't just have this random color there. I'll try to get an example. 17:58, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Here we go. What do you think of this:

It matches the color of the Charart. 18:13, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. :) -- 18:18, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

What does everybody else think? 00:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. I still like the colour coding better, but this is a nice alternative.-- 00:44, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I definatly like this better than color-coding. I'm just glad that they have some color and aren't plain white. Nice job. :) 02:32, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Since it has been five days without any objections, I will set it up. I will leave a message back here when this can be implemented on articles. 22:55, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, Template:Main Quote can now be added on all articles at the very top of the page. Ideally, each box should only have one dialogue, but if this doesn't work for that article, please notify me on my talk page. Try to pick the best quote from that article and put it at the top. Also, if you have any other questions about how the template works, or if you think anything needs to be added, please leave a message on my talk page. 19:39, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

The template should be listed right before the Charcat. 20:26, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, there is another thing to be discussed. On the template, do you guys think we should add a description to the quote, or just the cat's name that said it? My personal opinion, is just to add the cat's name to make it as brief as possible. What do the rest of you guys think? 02:42, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe add what is being discussed, also, how do you put a-b quotes? :3 -- 02:46, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Adding a very, very short description makes sense to me. 02:48, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, how about adding just who the cat is that is speaking and who they are speaking too? Also, you can't add a-b quotes because all we want is a short openening to the article. 02:51, September 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. We'd do something like "Molekit to Cherrykit" or "Leafstar to her Clan." 20:00, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but try to stay away from adding a lot of description. Add as least as possible. 20:06, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Do we only use this template for the quote at the top of the page, or should it be used for all of them? 20:10, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Use Template:Main Quote for all main quotes. 21:25, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hey everybody, I was just wondering.... If a cat doesn't have it's main quote up yet, is there a rule to choosing which quote to put up, or can I just choose whichever one I think is best? 00:00, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

You can put which which ever quote you think is best, but if there is already one, leave a message on the talk page and discuss it with other users. Also, make sure that there is not a discussion going on the talk page about the main quote. 00:08, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the clarification, Whitestorm =) 02:07, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Nutmeg - Silver Nomination
She looks ready to me. 10:43, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Her history looks pretty good, but it might be better to expand it some more. 12:08, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

If possable, add more quotes. i haven't read SkyClan, so i don't know if u can or not. -- 20:17, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the Skyclan's Destiny section could be expanded a bit more. I'm not quite sure if she needs another quote, since she is a minor character. 17:52, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think she needs any more quotes, mainly because she is so minor, but if you find a good one, add it. 20:43, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

That quote is literally the only memorable thing she says xD As for expanding, I'll have to do that next week because my SkyClan's Destiny is at my mom's, but if anyone else wants to work on it, feel free. 20:14, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Spiderstar - Silver Nomination
I think Spiderstar's article looks nice. What do you think? 14:03, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Just add one or two quotes, but other than that it looks nice. Good job, Maplefern! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 16:31, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't own SkyClan's Destiny so I wouldn't know, but if possible the history should be expanded, since he probably won't appear again. And yes, he needs some quotes. 16:35, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it as much as I could, though I'm not sure if it is enough. 17:47, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Looks better to me. 02:22, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks fine, but what about quotes? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 23:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

He appears in StarClan, as well. He needs that added to his history. 23:41, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Maplefern? 19:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Now that I have time to, yes. 22:20, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Thrushpelt (TC) - Silver Nomination
I cleaned up Bluestar's Prophecy, I think this is ready. Also, to note, this is my first nomination so I have no idea if I'm doing it right. :P 02:25, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Bluestar's Prophecy and Code of the Clans could both be expanded. Also, he could use another quote that shows his personality. 02:30, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded it as much as I can, though I cannot do a quote. 02:46, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

If you can't find I quote, I could try to find one, if you want. 03:08, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Moonflight. :D 03:12, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I'll be able to get to it tomorrow. :) 03:16, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

Anything else I can do? 15:58, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

You still need more quotes. 21:27, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I know, I'm trying to find a good one. Bare with me. 03:48, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I can't possibly find any good parts, I haven't read Bluestar's Prophecy in awhile and I don't remember any significant good parts, though I know there are some, so I don't know where to flip exactly. Can I get help? 15:08, October 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * I lived up to my promise and found two quotes. :D 15:36, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :3 15:38, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

No problem. :) Commets before vote? 15:50, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Leafstar - Silver Nomination
I checked the rules again, and I am allowed to have one more nomination. I expanded her Skyclan's Destiny section overtime. 00:02, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Her Firestar's Quest section could be expanded. -- 00:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Cats of the Clans could be expanded a tad. 00:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe.... you could add a bit of her in the manga part of SkyClan's Destiny. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 00:39, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Expanded Firestar's Quest and added the manga part, though I can't expand Cats of the Clans. 01:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Needs some more quotes that show personality, and could more be added to her leadership ceremony? I'm not sure, but there isn't very much on it right now. 02:54, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I added more quotes. 04:25, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

The second quote with Echostsong is good, but could more ne added to it? Like, add Leafstar's respons and some more dialogue. Also, did you look into the leader ceremony? 20:41, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I believe that the chapter ends there, and Leafstar didn't respond. And I can't find the leader ceremony right now, but I'm trying. 20:53, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe put in a quote from Quest? And her tree should be deleted. It's only her and her unnamed mother. -- 17:27, September 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Did it. :) 20:33, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * The tree I mean. 22:09, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * So anything I can do? :) 15:58, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Did you add a Quest quote? 17:05, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I can't really find a good one that shows her true self. 17:07, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

You need to try and add more dialogue to her warrior ceremony, and add a leader ceremony for her. 17:41, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I added more to her warrior ceremony and I will add her leader ceremony soon. 17:47, September 26, 2010 (UTC)


 * By Leadership Ceremony, do you mean when Firestar announces that she'll be leader, or the actual StarClan ceremony? 00:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not quite sure which one it is, but I know it's the one that is "I, mentor of Skyclan and leader of Thunderclan ___ do you, Leafstar ___" thing one. xD If that is the starclan one..o_o 02:55, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

You need to add the StarClan ceremony where she receives all nine of her lives. 21:29, September 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * But Firestar nor Bluestar have one. Should they? The givers of their nine lives are listed in the Leader Information. 00:20, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I should think so. 01:20, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

It'll be a long quote, but I'll find them. :) 11:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

For some reason, I thought there was a template for that, but there isn't. I am working on getting it, so until then this nomination will have to be stalled a bit. :) 21:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Bluestar ~ Gold Nomination
I have worked on Bluestar's page for a while now, I've expanded almost every one of her books. I really want her to become gold, so please tell me all the things I must fix. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:02, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but she has none of her ceremonies. 20:07, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I realised she doesn't I'll work on them ASAP! River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:09, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

You should find another quote that shows her personality, that could be used with the new format. Shattered Peace, Long Shadows, Into the Wild, and Rising Storm could all be expanded. Also, try to summarize Cotc together so it isn't just a bunch of information spread out. :) 20:35, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Long Shadows can't be expanded anymore, but I've done everything you've all said. So anymore fixing for me? River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:57, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, all the history is better, but she needs a leader ceremony. However, there is not a template avaliable for that currently, but I am working on it. Once the template is made, she should be ready. 21:09, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay Whitestorm! Just tell me when it's ready! =) River pelt Deputy of StormClan 20:02, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Crookedstar~ For Gold
I expanded a lot of his history, and i think he looks good. 21:28, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Most of the history could be expanded and it need some quotes. 22:06, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, we need a few more quotes, and a better main quote. The citation for brown does need to be found, you can't remove it without searching for a while. Also, Into the Wild, Rising Storm, Starlight, Twilight, and Cats of the Clans all need to be expanded, although most history could use some expansion. 22:18, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

For into the wild, he makes only one appearance, so i really don't think it can be expanded much more, but i'll get to work on the other stuff. 01:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I expanded everything but the feild guides, which i'll do tomorow. I know that we're suposed to look after the cats we nominate, but i cannot find a good main quote for him, can smoeone give me a hand? 04:01, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I can try to look for a main quote, though it will probably be late tonight before I can put it up. 21:14, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion
Could we change the Charcat's color for each clan (ThunderClan=Green, WindClan=Light purple, ect), I've seen users do it with there personal ones so it can be done? Rainear  Let the rain guide you  23:41, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I was really thinking about that (but not those colors) but I thought some more and wouldnt that get kind of confusing and take alot of coding to go back and change all of them? And what color would the Kittypets, Rouges, Loners ect. be? Great thought! 01:03, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I see where your idea is coming from but, I don't get the point. I mean you are suggesting color-coding to show which Clan they are from, correct? Well, on each Charcat, it already says which Clan they are from so it wouldn't be adding an extra info. Another thing, users who aren't a part of PC wouldn't know what was going on or what the colors represented. So, I guess you could I say I disagree. 02:09, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

No because the actal colors for the clans are

ThunderClan= Green

WindClan=Light Purple

RiverClan=Blue

ShadowClan=Red

Rainear  Let the rain guide you  03:01, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

This is just like the main quote idea above, we decided not to colour code them. What if we found a way to have a small pixel of the Clan symbol in the corner? Like:. We can create something else for Loners, Rogues, etc.-- 03:24, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Looks cool :D Rainear   Let the rain guide you  03:31, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nightshine I really wish this could be done but referring to Whitestorm's statment, about people outside of PC. But great job with the symbols. And for loner there could be a big L or something like that. (= 11:07, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm going to speak as a web designer here: Changing the color of the charcat table based on group would be... Ugly. The table would stand out in it's mismatch from the main layout. You pick and stick to a color scheme for the main article boxes for purpose of attractiveness, and for purposes of making the other "tag" templates (stub, style, delete) stand out dramatically because they go against the "normal" look. 12:24, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about that too, Kitsu. Also, we just made the quote templates to match the color of the Charcat and I have pointed out my reasons for not changing the color. 20:24, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that color-coding isn't a good idea, like Kitsufox and Whitestorm said, but Nightshine's idea of the symbols would be nice. We could put the Clan symbol of the character in the corner of their charcat. 17:20, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Daisytail - Silver Nomination
All she needed were a few of her categories and a main quote. Comments? 00:09, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

She looks good to me, but if possible, get a longer quote. River pelt Deputy of StormClan 00:45, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's the length of the quote that matters, but the quality of the quote is what really counts. I can still try to find a better quote, but it may be hard. She has less than 5 pages about her. 01:05, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

No, I read through her part in Code of the Clans, and there is not another quote that shows her personality at all. So, the history looks fine and I support. 20:46, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I just fixed a spelling error, I support now! (= 22:48, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Moonflower - Silver Nomination
Moonflower is ready in my opinon. Does anyone think so? -- 15:16, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

In her trivia section, it says she's be stated with amber eyes. See if you can find a citation for it. Also, perhaps you could add in a few more quotes to show her personality. 15:44, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

The history could be expanded. 15:57, October 2, 2010 (UTC)